{"id":720,"date":"2018-01-09T20:47:41","date_gmt":"2018-01-09T20:47:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/?p=720"},"modified":"2018-01-24T10:23:22","modified_gmt":"2018-01-24T10:23:22","slug":"most-na-wisle-elementem-anteny-czyli-eksperymentow-z-dipolami-ziemnymi-ciag-dalszy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/en\/2018\/01\/09\/most-na-wisle-elementem-anteny-czyli-eksperymentow-z-dipolami-ziemnymi-ciag-dalszy\/","title":{"rendered":"A bridge on the Vistula river as an element of an antenna \u2013 earth dipole tests continued"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Encouraged with the outcome of latest earth dipole tests I decided to continue testing of those interesting antennas.<\/p>\n<p>This time, however, I aimed at:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>testing the possibility to transmit in 136 kHz<\/li>\n<li>checking how a good quality electrode will impact the antenna<\/li>\n<li>confirming that an earth dipole can work effectively above the ground with low resistance<\/li>\n<li>testing an antenna of this length to be able to receive signals at the lower end HF<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>I used a 0.6 mm copper plated steel pole (due to cost and no alternatives available). Resistance for the pole was over 1kOhm. The cord was spread across the field lying on the grass or in the bushes at the height of 0 \u2013 2 meters above the ground level.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-712 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo-drut-225x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"411\" height=\"548\" srcset=\"https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo-drut-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo-drut-768x1024.jpg 768w, https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo-drut.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 411px) 85vw, 411px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>The antenna was placed max 15 meters above water at the banks. I used a nearby bridge as an electrode. The bridge\u2019s dimensions:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>982,5 m long<\/li>\n<li>18,6 m wide (the deck was 12 meters)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-715 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo-most-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"611\" height=\"458\" srcset=\"https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo-most-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo-most-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo-most-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo-most-1200x900.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo-most.jpg 1600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 984px) 61vw, (max-width: 1362px) 45vw, 600px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>This bridge was restored in 1950, that\u2019s why I doubt that after 68 years all elements are well grounded. A 10mm wide and over a dozen meters long aluminium strip was dipped in water and served as the other electrode. The entire antenna including the bridge was ca. 3 km.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-714\" src=\"https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo-mapa-300x156.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"760\" height=\"395\" srcset=\"https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo-mapa-300x156.png 300w, https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo-mapa-768x399.png 768w, https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo-mapa-1024x532.png 1024w, https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo-mapa.png 1145w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 984px) 61vw, (max-width: 1362px) 45vw, 600px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Specifications:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>50-250kHz antenna impedance was 800\u2126<\/li>\n<li>the resistance of the bridge at 70Hz was below 1\u2126<\/li>\n<li>the resistance of the antenna for DC was over 1k\u2126 (1000\u2126)<\/li>\n<li>the resistance between the antenna and the ground for DC was ca. 80k\u2126 (80000\u2126)<\/li>\n<li>the resistance of entire antenna for DC was ca. 2k\u2126 (2000\u2126)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>This is how it worked at LF and MF<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/-LhH-mn-F-Y\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/-LhH-mn-F-Y<\/a><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-716\" src=\"https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo-uklad-pomiarowy-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"708\" height=\"531\" srcset=\"https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo-uklad-pomiarowy-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo-uklad-pomiarowy-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo-uklad-pomiarowy-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo-uklad-pomiarowy-1200x900.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo-uklad-pomiarowy.jpg 1600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 984px) 61vw, (max-width: 1362px) 45vw, 600px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The SWR of the antenna with a transformer switched at 1:1<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-717\" src=\"https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo1-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"611\" height=\"458\" srcset=\"https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo1-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo1-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo1-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo1-1200x900.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo1.jpg 1600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 984px) 61vw, (max-width: 1362px) 45vw, 600px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The SWR of the antenna with a transformer switched at 1:4<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-710\" src=\"https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo-4-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"596\" height=\"447\" srcset=\"https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo-4-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo-4-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo-4-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo-4-1200x900.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo-4.jpg 1600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 596px) 85vw, 596px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The SWR of the antenna with a transformer switched at 1:9<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-718\" src=\"https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo9-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"603\" height=\"452\" srcset=\"https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo9-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo9-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo9-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo9-1200x900.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo9.jpg 1600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 984px) 61vw, (max-width: 1362px) 45vw, 600px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The SWR of the antenna with a transformer switched at 1:16<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-719\" src=\"https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo16-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"599\" height=\"449\" srcset=\"https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo16-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo16-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo16-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo16-1200x900.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo16.jpg 1600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 599px) 85vw, 599px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Conclusions:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>The antenna works in 136kHz. Below you\u2019ll find a signal received in Gda\u0144sk (40 km away). I didn\u2019t try WSPR or PSK as I was only equipped with a battery.<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-713\" src=\"https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo-greaber-sq2bxi-300x28.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"686\" height=\"64\" srcset=\"https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo-greaber-sq2bxi-300x28.png 300w, https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo-greaber-sq2bxi.png 596w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 984px) 61vw, (max-width: 1362px) 45vw, 600px\" \/><\/li>\n<li>It&#8217;s easy to see the bridge&#8217;s influence on the antenna&#8217;s efficiency.\u00a0 See the SWR graph below of the same antenna\u00a0 with a 1:16 transfromer, but without the bridge. <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-711\" src=\"https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo-antena-bez-mostu-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"735\" height=\"551\" srcset=\"https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo-antena-bez-mostu-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo-antena-bez-mostu-768x575.jpg 768w, https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo-antena-bez-mostu-1024x767.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/baldowo-antena-bez-mostu.jpg 1192w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 984px) 61vw, (max-width: 1362px) 45vw, 600px\" \/><\/li>\n<li>An antenna spread above ground with low resistance can be used for ham radio.<\/li>\n<li>This antenna serves well also at HF lower bands. Below you\u2019ll find the antenna working in 3,7MHz and 7MHz. There were no tests at 1,8MHz as all the tests were carried out in the daytime.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/1WuevphxlvM\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/1WuevphxlvM<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/o27-oE2KEPg\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/o27-oE2KEPg<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>More tests soon.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Have a look at my previous tests:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/index.php\/2017\/11\/26\/kolejne-proby-z-antena-dipol-ziemny\/\">https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/index.php\/2017\/11\/26\/kolejne-proby-z-antena-dipol-ziemny\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/index.php\/2017\/08\/01\/proby-z-antena-dipol-ziemny-o-dlugosci-okolo-600m\/\">https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/index.php\/2017\/08\/01\/proby-z-antena-dipol-ziemny-o-dlugosci-okolo-600m\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/index.php\/2017\/06\/22\/proby-z-antena-dipol-ziemny\/\">https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/index.php\/2017\/06\/22\/proby-z-antena-dipol-ziemny\/<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Zach\u0119cony pozytywnymi rezultatami poprzednich eksperyment\u00f3w z dipolami ziemnymi, postanowi\u0142em kontynuowa\u0107 eksperymenty z tymi ciekawymi antenami. Tym razem eksperyment mia\u0142 na celu: Potwierdzi\u0107 mo\u017cliwo\u015b\u0107 nadawania w pa\u015bmie 136kHz Sprawdzi\u0107 wp\u0142yw zastosowania bardzo dobrej elektrody na anten\u0119 Potwierdzi\u0107 \u017ce anteny typu dipol ziemny pracuj\u0105 r\u00f3wnie\u017c nad dobrze przewodz\u0105c\u0105 ziemi\u0105 Sprawdzenie czy tak d\u0142uga antena nadaje si\u0119 r\u00f3wnie\u017c &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/en\/2018\/01\/09\/most-na-wisle-elementem-anteny-czyli-eksperymentow-z-dipolami-ziemnymi-ciag-dalszy\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;A bridge on the Vistula river as an element of an antenna \u2013 earth dipole tests continued&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":12,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-720","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"translation":{"provider":"WPGlobus","version":"3.0.1","language":"en","enabled_languages":["pl","en"],"languages":{"pl":{"title":true,"content":true,"excerpt":false},"en":{"title":true,"content":true,"excerpt":false}}},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/720","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/12"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=720"}],"version-history":[{"count":18,"href":"https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/720\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":753,"href":"https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/720\/revisions\/753"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=720"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=720"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/klubnl.pl\/wpr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=720"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}