From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df11.mx.aol.com (rly-df11.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.24]) by air-df08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF081-5884af2b5aafb; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:23:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF111-5884af2b5aafb; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:23:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N60Q7-0001FX-PT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:22:27 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N60Q7-0001FO-C4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:22:27 +0000 Received: from smtp21.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.4]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N60Q5-00063W-8t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:22:27 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2116.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DFB2B7000096 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 12:22:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (145.220.195-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.195.220.145]) by msfrf2116.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 95ED87000092 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 12:22:19 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091105112219614.95ED87000092@msfrf2116.sfr.fr Message-ID: <000801ca5e0a$34501d70$0201a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: References: <36F0AC319F8D4DA2B15968DBEB9CDEBD@ns94d01ae4d850> <002d01ca5dff$c7ea38a0$0201a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> <200911051155250437.01D98744@smtp2.numeo.fr> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 12:22:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091104-1, 04/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: LF F8BOJ 30dB over noise on 137705 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi John and Marco merci for the report very good day and week end Claude f8boj JN16WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "John RABSON" To: Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 11:55 AM Subject: LF: LF F8BOJ 30dB over noise on 137705 > At 1054z. > > John > F5VLF > > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > > On 05/11/2009 at 11:07 Claude Berthebaud wrote: > >>Hello Henny and LF >>Many thanks for the pic control ...now I'm in beacon >>137705.hz qrss3 for the eventualy SWL good week and >>Best 73 's >>Claude F8boj JN16WA >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: henny van elst >> To: blacksheep >> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 10:51 AM >> Subject: LF: BOJ 04-11.jpg >> >> >> Hi LF, >> Capture BOJ, >> Henny pa3cpm >> best 73s >> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden >>verzonden: >> BOJ 04-11.jpg >> >> Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen >>virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet >>toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt >>weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB061-adb4affdcf61bc; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:50:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB081-adb4affdcf61bc; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:50:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9cfu-0005ce-K1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:49:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9cfu-0005cV-3u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:49:42 +0000 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([195.4.92.90]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9cft-0000LU-09 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:49:42 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.20] (helo=10.mx.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.70 #1) id 1N9cfr-0005Du-RB; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:49:39 +0100 Received: from w1efd.w.pppool.de ([89.58.30.253]:1714 helo=2a2d7ed321c6425) by 10.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #94) id 1N9cfq-0007Ry-Ty; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:49:39 +0100 From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" To: Cc: "'Roger Lapthorn'" References: <9afca2640911141508w69cbb664i4d18d02e39c480d0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:49:39 +0100 Message-ID: <83CB7D6E669349588555DE90E3A24F30@2a2d7ed321c6425> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <9afca2640911141508w69cbb664i4d18d02e39c480d0@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: Acplf+DIwyNzs6nSRIOzlH2WINDKbgAYKaUg X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: AW: 500kHz WSPR - Germany at last Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01CA65E9.B7497370" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01CA65E9.B7497370 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Roger, the pleasure is all mine. I have waited long for decoding your call (hi). MF is a very interesting band and we in DL would be happy if we could join it. vy 73 de Gerhard // DK6NI =================== _____ Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Roger Lapthorn Gesendet: Sonntag, 15. November 2009 00:09 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: 500kHz WSPR - Germany at last 2009-11-14 23:04 G3XBM 0.503892 -29 1 JO02dg 0.002 DK6NI JN59ln 805 108 Thanks so much for this report, which is my first from Germany and now my 7th country with <2mW ERP. 73s Roger G3XBM -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01CA65E9.B7497370 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Roger,<= /o:p>

 

the= pleasure is all mine.

I= have waited long for decoding your call  (hi).

MF= is a very interesting band and we in DL would be happy if we could join it.

 

vy= 73 de Gerhard  //  DK6NI

 

=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

 

 

 

 

Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org [mailto:owner-r= sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Roger Lapthorn
Gesendet: Sonntag, 15.= November 2009 00:09
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: 500kHz WSP= R - Germany at last

 

=  2009-11-14 23:04 

 G3XBM 

=  0.503892 

=  -29 

=  1 

 JO02dg 

=  0.002 

 DK6NI 

 JN59ln 

=  805 

=  108 


Thanks so much for this report, which is my first from Germany and now= my 7th country with <2mW ERP.

73s
Roger G3XBM

--
-------------------------------------------------------------
http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.c= om/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088

------=_NextPart_000_000C_01CA65E9.B7497370-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc07.mx.aol.com (rly-mc07.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.91]) by air-mc07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC072-d824b05d15e138; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:14:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC072-d824b05d15e138; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:14:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBGBr-0003ad-PB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:13:27 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBGBr-0003aU-5G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:13:27 +0000 Received: from qmta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.59.227]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBGBq-00030D-53 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:13:27 +0000 Received: from OMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.19]) by QMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 73531d00E0QuhwU5CBDJbj; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:13:18 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([76.23.233.102]) by OMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 7BDJ1d00G2DDHkk3NBDJMn; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:13:18 +0000 Message-ID: <004001ca696d$e13eee30$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:13:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.836,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 QRSS10 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003C_01CA6943.F842C090" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01CA6943.F842C090 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Nicolas That's impressive received s/n! You must have an excellent receiving setup and a quiet location. Light traces of signal were seen by Laurence in China just before dawn so perhaps condx are very good. Now in QRSS3 mode. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ----- Original Message ----- From: F4DTL@aol.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 5:26 PM Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 QRSS10 Hello Jay,nice signal here. F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC756 Pro Ant: 10m tuned MF vertical Dans un e-mail daté du 19/11/2009 13:44:55 Paris, Madrid, jrusgrove@comcast.net a écrit : T/A enthusiasts Thanks to Rik, Andrey, Pat, Ralph (and others for trying) from the Tuesday night QRSS3 session. Very surprised to see the signal received in Russia! Tonight WE2XGR/2 will transmit in QRSS10 mode from ~ 2130 to ~ 2300Z and QRSS3 from ~2300 to ~ 0030Z on 506.5 kHz. The QRSS10 transmission (letters XGR) will take about 4-1/2 minutes which may be longer than the T/A QSB cycle to western EU. It will be interesting to see if QRSS10 might be too slow for T/A work. As usual, any and all reports are appreciated. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01CA6943.F842C090 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Nicolas
 
That's impressive received s/n! You must have an excellent receiv= ing setup=20 and a quiet location. Light traces of signal were seen by Laurence in= China just=20 before dawn so perhaps condx are very good.
 
Now in QRSS3 mode.
 
Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 19,= 2009 5:26=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRS= S3=20 QRSS10

Hello Jay,nice signal here.
 
F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP

RX : Icom IC756 Pro
Ant: 10m tuned MF=20 vertical

 
Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 19/11/2009 13:44:55 Paris, Madrid, jrusgrove@comcast.net= a =E9crit :
T/A=20 enthusiasts

Thanks to Rik, Andrey, Pat, Ralph (and others= for trying)=20 from the Tuesday night QRSS3 session. Very
surprised to see th= e signal=20 received in Russia!

Tonight WE2XGR/2 will transmit in QRSS1= 0 mode=20 from ~ 2130 to ~ 2300Z and QRSS3 from ~2300 to ~ 0030Z
on 506.= 5=20 kHz.

The QRSS10 transmission (letters XGR) will take about= 4-1/2=20 minutes which may be longer than the
T/A QSB cycle to western= EU. It=20 will be interesting to see if QRSS10 might be too slow for T/A wor= k.
As=20 usual, any and all reports are appreciated.

Jay W1VD = =20 WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
 
 

------=_NextPart_000_003C_01CA6943.F842C090-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb02.mx.aol.com (rly-mb02.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.155]) by air-mb01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB014-cf34afd794a378; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:20:48 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB027-cf34afd794a378; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:20:44 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8xw0-00038h-BY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:19:36 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8xvz-00038Y-SU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:19:35 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s11.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.22]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8xvx-00062p-5h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:19:35 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W26 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s11.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:19:26 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [216.137.223.53] From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China To: Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:19:26 -0900 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Nov 2009 15:19:26.0966 (UTC) FILETIME=[B0433960:01CA6474] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_577bd696-583a-478e-9a75-3f7139420376_" Subject: LF: Last chance saloon 500 from Alaska X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_577bd696-583a-478e-9a75-3f7139420376_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Im leaving for China in the morning to go back to work but will be listeni= ng on CW/QRSS on 500 and 138 over the next hour or so if anyone wants to= have a go from Eu on the dawn/dusk Alaska path. =20 The receiver will hopefully stay on here in Alaska and Ill be able to "lis= ten" remotely.=20 =20 Over the Pole didnt sound too bright as DCF39 wasnt that strong here but= things do change pretty quickly at times. As ever Im still on Rx only= until I get more time. =20 Ill be back here for Christmas... =20 Laurence WE2 XPQ Part 5 Experimental KL1X Wasilla Palmer Alaska BP51 IP Will be KL1X/BY3A Tianjin China =20 _________________________________________________________________ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=3Drestaurants&form=3DMFESRP&publ=3DWLHMTAG&cr= ea=3DTEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1=3D --_577bd696-583a-478e-9a75-3f7139420376_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Im leaving for China in the morning to go back to work but will be listeni= ng on CW/QRSS on 500 and 138 over the next hour or so if anyone wants to= have a go from Eu on the dawn/dusk Alaska path.
 
The receiver will hopefully stay on here in Alaska and Ill be able to "lis= ten" remotely.
 
Over the Pole didnt sound too bright as DCF39 wasnt that strong here but= things do change pretty quickly at times. As  ever  Im still on= Rx only until I get more time.
 
Ill be back here for Christmas...
 
Laurence WE2 XPQ Part 5 Experimental
KL1X Wasilla Palmer Alaska BP51 IP
Will be KL1X/BY3A Tianjin China

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Try it now.<= /a> =3D --_577bd696-583a-478e-9a75-3f7139420376_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (rly-dc03.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.32]) by air-dc02.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDC024-b124b0d4eb7fc; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:35:33 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC036-b124b0d4eb7fc; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:35:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDJsu-00040v-QI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:34:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDJsu-00040m-7c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:34:24 +0000 Received: from mail0.citigroup.com ([192.193.221.105] helo=mail.citigroup.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDJst-00027a-Ch for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:34:24 +0000 Received: from imbhub-mw03.nam.nsroot.net ([159.17.94.190]) by imbaspam-ss03.namdmz.dmzroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_EXT/ev: 24737 $) with ESMTP id nAPFYFjw016415 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:34:16 GMT Received: from exlniht02.eur.nsroot.net (exlniht02.eur.nsroot.net [169.186.207.99]) by imbhub-mw03.nam.nsroot.net (Switch-3.4.0/Switch-3.4.0) with ESMTP id nAPFNmue031249 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:34:14 GMT Received: from exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net ([169.186.207.105]) by exlniht02.eur.nsroot.net ([169.186.207.99]) with mapi; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:33:26 +0000 From: "Scholz, Marco " To: "'lf group (rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org)'" Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:33:24 +0000 Thread-Topic: LF parts for sale from Heinz, DM2BHG Thread-Index: AcpsSn4dV1RR/JPUQnOIYWYmmv97rgBmNVRw Message-ID: <254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C796D4C6@exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net> Accept-Language: en-US, en-GB Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C796D4C6@exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net> acceptlanguage: en-US, en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 169.175.16.182 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_000_254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C796D4C6exlnmb06eurns_" Subject: LF: LF parts for sale from Heinz, DM2BHG X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --_000_254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C796D4C6exlnmb06eurns_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, My friend Heinz,DM2BHG has some LF parts for sale. More details you can re= quest directly from Heinz via email -> mailto:h.borde@t-online.de - TF-Measurement Set 62 from Pr=E4zitronik includes MV62(NF level meter/Rx= ), GF62(NF Tx), Wobbel set and level display device. - very old: GF 7 from Clamann und Granert (Generator from a TF-Measurement= set - up to 2MHz) vy73 Marco DD7PC --_000_254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C796D4C6exlnmb06eurns_ Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="winmail.dat" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef; name="winmail.dat" eJ8+IpIaAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEJgAEAIQAAADVBNTE3QjIx NzRGRDc2NENBNzY2MzM1QTZGRkFEQTgyAEMHAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEFgAMADgAAANkHCwAZAA8A IQAYAAMATwEBIIADAA4AAADZBwsAGQAPACEAGQADAFABAQiABwAYAAAASVBNLk1pY3Jvc29mdCBN YWlsLk5vdGUAMQgBBIABACUAAABMRiBwYXJ0cyBmb3Igc2FsZSBmcm9tIEhlaW56LCBETTJCSEcA 2gsBCAAFAAQAAAAAAAAAAAABCQAEAAIAAAAAAAAAAQOQBgDACgAAPQAAAAIBfwABAAAARQAAADwy NTQxMDJDQ0MzMTAxMDRDQTlEQTlEQTMxRUJEMDNDRTAyQzc5NkQ0QzZAZXhsbm1iMDYuZXVyLm5z cm9vdC5uZXQ+AAAAAAIBCRABAAAA9wEAAPMBAADHAgAATFpGddbOJ5ADAAoAcmNwZzEyNeIyA0N0 ZXgFQQEDAfdPCoACpAPjAgBjaArAc/BldDAgBxMCgA/zAFB/BFYIVQeyEcUOUQMBEMcy9wYABsMR xTMERhDJEtsR09sI7wn3Oxi/DjA1EcIMYM5jAFALCQFkMzYRUAum0CBIZWwYUCwKogqAmE15IANQ CJBuZB2BAQuAeixETTJCSCxHIBDwBCBzA3BlIOhMRiAKsXQEIAIQBcDycwdAZS4F0AWwIDABAJcB kAMQBCB5CGAgYwORlRjAcQpQcwVAZGkYwDhjdGweYgNwHuQgdhkHMCBlAMADES0+IMEk4nRvOmgu BuALINBlQHQtAiBsC4AhUAcBAB30HfQtIFRGLfxNZR/QCHAk0AnwBUAGYA0FQDYU4CPjUHJcJ2Bl NHppdANgAwBrOiALgGMKQAEABCBNVtkpEChOIGAhQHYdoCVQAxEwBJAvUngpLCAUR0YrNFQsYldv YvZiK8ERISAAcB7QK5QjUN5zC1EeYAEAJJBjIVAnDE0rsHIeYAbwZDoskSC6NyPUQwtgA4EDoHUe wZxHcgBwBJAFQChHCfD9BJBhJaAFwCPjJLAn7S3iESfAdXAgJaAgMk2ISHopJwp2eTcV0A8eBArA BaAd9EREN1AKQycKfTlgAB8AQgABAAAALgAAAFMAYwBoAG8AbAB6ACwAIABNAGEAcgBjAG8AIABb AEkAQwBHAC0ASQBUAF0AAAAAAB8AZQABAAAANAAAAG0AcwA1ADIAMQA2ADUAQABpAG0AYwBlAHUA LgBlAHUALgBzAHMAbQBiAC4AYwBvAG0AAAAfAGQAAQAAAAoAAABTAE0AVABQAAAAAAACAUEAAQAA AIQAAAAAAAAAgSsfpL6jEBmdbgDdAQ9UAgAAAIBTAGMAaABvAGwAegAsACAATQBhAHIAYwBvACAA WwBJAEMARwAtAEkAVABdAAAAUwBNAFQAUAAAAG0AcwA1ADIAMQA2ADUAQABpAG0AYwBlAHUALgBl AHUALgBzAHMAbQBiAC4AYwBvAG0AAAAfABoMAQAAAC4AAABTAGMAaABvAGwAegAsACAATQBhAHIA YwBvACAAWwBJAEMARwAtAEkAVABdAAAAAAAfAB8MAQAAADQAAABtAHMANQAyADEANgA1AEAAaQBt AGMAZQB1AC4AZQB1AC4AcwBzAG0AYgAuAGMAbwBtAAAAHwAeDAEAAAAKAAAAUwBNAFQAUAAAAAAA AgEZDAEAAACEAAAAAAAAAIErH6S+oxAZnW4A3QEPVAIAAACAUwBjAGgAbwBsAHoALAAgAE0AYQBy AGMAbwAgAFsASQBDAEcALQBJAFQAXQAAAFMATQBUAFAAAABtAHMANQAyADEANgA1AEAAaQBtAGMA ZQB1AC4AZQB1AC4AcwBzAG0AYgAuAGMAbwBtAAAACwBAOgEAAAAfABoAAQAAABIAAABJAFAATQAu AE4AbwB0AGUAAAAAAAMA8T8JBAAACwBAOgEAAAADAP0/5AQAAAIBCzABAAAAEAAAAFpReyF0/XZM p2YzWm/62oIDABcAAQAAAEAAOQAAeiGg5G3KAUAACDAmHseg5G3KAQsAAgABAAAACwAjAAAAAAAD ACYAAAAAAAsAKQAAAAAACwArAAAAAAADAC4AAAAAAAMANgAAAAAAAgFHAAEAAAAzAAAAYz1VUzth PSA7cD1TYWxvbW9uO2w9RVhMTk1CMDYtMDkxMTI1MTUzMzI1Wi0xMjcyODQAAAMAYgAAAAAACwBj AAAAAAAfAHAAAQAAAEoAAABMAEYAIABwAGEAcgB0AHMAIABmAG8AcgAgAHMAYQBsAGUAIABmAHIA bwBtACAASABlAGkAbgB6ACwAIABEAE0AMgBCAEgARwAAAAAAAgFxAAEAAAAbAAAAAcpsSn4dV1RR /JPUQnOIYWYmmv97rgBmNVRwAAsAFwwAAAAAHwA1EAEAAACKAAAAPAAyADUANAAxADAAMgBDAEMA QwAzADEAMAAxADAANABDAEEAOQBEAEEAOQBEAEEAMwAxAEUAQgBEADAAMwBDAEUAMAAyAEMANwA5 ADYARAA0AEMANgBAAGUAeABsAG4AbQBiADAANgAuAGUAdQByAC4AbgBzAHIAbwBvAHQALgBuAGUA dAA+AAAAAAADAIAQ/////x8A8xABAAAAUgAAAEwARgAgAHAAYQByAHQAcwAgAGYAbwByACAAcwBh AGwAZQAgAGYAcgBvAG0AIABIAGUAaQBuAHoALAAgAEQATQAyAEIASABHAC4ARQBNAEwAAAAAAAsA 9BAAAAAACwD1EAAAAAALAPYQAAAAAEAABzB9Mrug5G3KAQMA3j+vbwAAHwD4PwEAAAAuAAAAUwBj AGgAbwBsAHoALAAgAE0AYQByAGMAbwAgAFsASQBDAEcALQBJAFQAXQAAAAAAAgH5PwEAAABNAAAA AAAAANynQMjAQhAatLkIACsv4YIBAAAAAAAAAC9PPVNBTE9NT04vT1U9RVVST1BFL0NOPVJFQ0lQ SUVOVFMvQ049MDAwMDM1MjE2NQAAAAAfAPo/AQAAAC4AAABTAGMAaABvAGwAegAsACAATQBhAHIA YwBvACAAWwBJAEMARwAtAEkAVABdAAAAAAACAfs/AQAAAE0AAAAAAAAA3KdAyMBCEBq0uQgAKy/h ggEAAAAAAAAAL089U0FMT01PTi9PVT1FVVJPUEUvQ049UkVDSVBJRU5UUy9DTj0wMDAwMzUyMTY1 AAAAAAMAGUAAAAAAAwAaQAAAAAADAF1AAAAAAAMACVkBAAAAAwAAgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYA AAAAEIUAAAAAAAALAACACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAADhQAAAAAAAAsAAIAIIAYAAAAAAMAA AAAAAABGAAAAAA6FAAAAAAAAAwAAgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAAYUAAAAAAAADAACACCAG AAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAAYhQAAAAAAAAsAAIAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAAAaFAAAAAAAA CwAAgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAgoUAAAAAAAADAA00+T8AAAIBFDQBAAAAEAAAAFSUocAp fxAbpYcIACsqJRcfAD0AAQAAAAIAAAAAAAAAHwA3AAEAAABKAAAATABGACAAcABhAHIAdABzACAA ZgBvAHIAIABzAGEAbABlACAAZgByAG8AbQAgAEgAZQBpAG4AegAsACAARABNADIAQgBIAEcAAAAA AB8AAICGAwIAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAQAAAB4AAABhAGMAYwBlAHAAdABsAGEAbgBnAHUAYQBnAGUA AAAAAAEAAAAaAAAAZQBuAC0AVQBTACwAIABlAG4ALQBHAEIAAAAAAB8AAICGAwIAAAAAAMAAAAAA AABGAQAAACAAAAB4AC0AbQBzAC0AaABhAHMALQBhAHQAdABhAGMAaAAAAAEAAAACAAAAAAAAACfo --_000_254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C796D4C6exlnmb06eurns_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (rly-mf06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.176]) by air-mf05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF051-9634b0bba7f365; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 05:50:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF061-9634b0bba7f365; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 05:50:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCsy0-0004pY-NO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:49:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCsy0-0004pP-Ce for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:49:52 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCsxz-0000UQ-15 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:49:52 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 723304C811D for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:49:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5589A4C8167 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:49:45 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B0BBA49.7070608@online.fr> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:49:45 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XKO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Lubos , Dex , LF Yes good copy of WD2XKO last night . 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj Lubos OK2BVG a =E9crit : > Hello LF! > I saw nice signal from XKO this morning. > > 73! > > Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS > =20 > _________________________________________________________________ > Nov=E1 Windows 7: Zjedodu=B9te si ka=BEdodenn=ED =FAkoly. Kter=FD po=E8= =EDta=E8 je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD? > http://windows.microsoft.com/shop > =20 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com (rly-md01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.139]) by air-md07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD071-8e24b0548672ae; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:30:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD012-8e24b0548672ae; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:30:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NB74W-0008OQ-35 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:29:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NB74V-0008OD-9M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:29:15 +0000 Received: from qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.96]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NB74S-0001WH-Vg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:29:14 +0000 Received: from OMTA15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.87]) by QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 70b41d0031swQuc591V4Vl; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:29:04 +0000 Received: from DELL4 ([76.23.233.102]) by OMTA15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 71e91d00g2DDHkk3b1e9hH; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:38:10 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01ca691c$1cf15820$6c01a8c0@DELL4> From: To: References: <000501ca67ba$e4817db0$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <002e01ca682b$c42ac460$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <00b301ca6915$df7b7440$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <20091119125934.BBA76F3863@smtps02.kuleuven.be> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:27:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 QRSS10 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ~ 100 watts ERP. Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe" To: Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 7:59 AM Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 QRSS10 > Jay, > > what ERP were you running ? > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > At 13:43 19/11/2009, you wrote: >>T/A enthusiasts >> >>Thanks to Rik, Andrey, Pat, Ralph (and others for trying) from the Tuesday >>night QRSS3 session. Very >>surprised to see the signal received in Russia! >> >>Tonight WE2XGR/2 will transmit in QRSS10 mode from ~ 2130 to ~ 2300Z and >>QRSS3 from ~2300 to ~ 0030Z >>on 506.5 kHz. >> >>The QRSS10 transmission (letters XGR) will take about 4-1/2 minutes which >>may be longer than the >>T/A QSB cycle to western EU. It will be interesting to see if QRSS10 might >>be too slow for T/A work. >>As usual, any and all reports are appreciated. >> >>Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 >> >> >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Andrey rn3agc" >>To: >>Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 3:33 AM >>Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 >> >> >> > Hello Jay, Rik, LF, >> > Captures at 00.32 and 01.42. >> > Rik, here frequency 506501. >> > >> > 73 >> > Andrey / KO85sv >> > >> > >> >> T/A enthusiasts >> >> >> >> WE2XGR/2 will beacon in QRSS3 mode tonight on 506.5 kHz from ~ 2130 to >> >> ~ >> >> 0030 Z. Reports appreciated. >> >> >> >> Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df11.mx.aol.com (rly-df11.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.24]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF051-5894aee17181e5; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 18:18:06 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF112-5894aee17181e5; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 18:17:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N4jf8-00031K-6P for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 23:16:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N4jf7-00031B-JH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 23:16:41 +0000 Received: from mailt.toya.net.pl ([217.113.224.9] ident=postfix) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N4jda-0003M0-0L for 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autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: MF_Report SM6BGP Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070104070709080003020908" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------070104070709080003020908 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Gunnar, LF group tonight you are getting many screenshots.. :) please find (enclosed) another one of ur qrss3 signal taken at 2302 utc; qrg: 501.4 kHz 73 de Piotr, sq7mpj qth: Lodz /jo91rs/ --------------070104070709080003020908 Content-Type: image/jpeg; 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(VPS 091107-1, 07/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: RE: dd7pc F8boj Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01CA606B.91244180" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01CA606B.91244180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Marco=20 Sure glad I receive your qsl ..=20 thank you for this good qso the wx does not have a good signal here it= rains with wind=20 there is the qrm. rennouvelerons us again this qso .. in better condit= ions=20 Good Sunday too=20 Claude F8boj JN16WA merci encore Marco pour le qso. rechercher ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Scholz, Marco=20 To: 'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'=20 Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 11:33 AM Subject: LF: RE: dd7pc F8boj Good morning CLaude, i'm very, very happy now about our QSO. Sending you in this moment= my final. That's my new ODX with 538km. Amazing with my light setup, but i ben= efit from your good antenna. Please can i send you my QSL card direct? have a nice sunday vy73 Marco DD7PC mailto://dd7pc@gmx.de http://www.qsl.net/dd7pc ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group= @blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Claude Berthebaud Sent: 08 November 2009 11:15 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: dd7pc F8boj HI Marco and LF Marco GM ur M in JN16WA...to day.. many thanks for the qso best 73 's Claude F8boj ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01CA606B.91244180 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 20= 09 11:33=20 AM
Subject: LF: RE: dd7pc F8boj<= /DIV>

Good morning CLaude,=
i'm very, very happy now ab= out our QSO. Sending you in=20 this moment my final.
That's my new ODX with 538k= m. Amazing with my light=20 setup, but i benefit from your good antenna.
Please can i send you my QS= L card=20 direct?
 
have a nice sunday
vy73
Marco
DD7PC
 

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Clau= de=20 Berthebaud
Sent: 08 November 2009 11:15
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: dd7pc=20 F8boj

HI Marco and LF
Marco GM ur M in JN16WA...to= =20 day..
many thanks for the qso
best 73 's
Claude=20 F8boj
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F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb08.mx.aol.com (rly-mb08.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.166]) by air-mb04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB043-d214b0a4ded17e; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:55:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB085-d214b0a4ded17e; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:55:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCUgX-0008R6-OD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:54:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCUgX-0008Qx-CQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:54:13 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCUgW-0001J3-OG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:54:13 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1652E51C00A for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:54:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from PC_van_Rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-106.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.106]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id D174231E704 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:54:04 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:54:11 +0100 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <20091122201654.1vcwyecs0sgoswcw@webmail6.kuleuven.be> References: <4B04EADA.4090707@telus.net> <57a24ca70911190525s5bbf2768gcfe5e7150eb8f784@mail.gmail.com> <20091121211012.fehyrbxl4400ckc8@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <20091122201654.1vcwyecs0sgoswcw@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091123085404.D174231E704@smtps01.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: SAIT "MT 430 B" 500kHz transmitter Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear all, I have been offered a SAIT "MT 430 B" 500kHz marine transmitter. Google revealed little, just that it is a "main ship transmitter". Any information (modes, output power etc...) or experience reports with this rig is welcome. 73, Rik ON7YD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG011-9f04af2b15f28f; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:05:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG012-9f04af2b15f28f; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:05:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N608S-00017w-Nu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:04:12 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N608R-00017n-AP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:04:11 +0000 Received: from mail0.citigroup.com ([192.193.221.105] helo=mail.citigroup.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N608O-0005qm-Dd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:04:10 +0000 Received: from imbhub-mw03.nam.nsroot.net ([159.17.94.190]) by imbaspam-ss03.namdmz.dmzroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_EXT/ev: 24737 $) with ESMTP id nA5B415R011798 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:04:02 GMT Received: from exlniht01.eur.nsroot.net (exlniht01.eur.nsroot.net [169.186.207.97]) by imbhub-mw03.nam.nsroot.net (Switch-3.4.0/Switch-3.4.0) with ESMTP id nA5B3OfO008581 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:04:00 GMT Received: from exlnht01.eur.nsroot.net (169.182.192.16) by exlniht01.eur.nsroot.net (169.186.207.97) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.375.2; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:03:39 +0000 Received: from exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net ([169.186.207.105]) by exlnht01.eur.nsroot.net ([169.182.192.16]) with mapi; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:03:39 +0000 From: "Scholz, Marco " To: "'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'" Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:03:37 +0000 Thread-Topic: Re: BOJ 04-11.jpg Thread-Index: AcpeAJGz+tFHpcI5Q5SsjfbGmJHXfwABvL4Q Message-ID: <254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C7425869@exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net> References: <36F0AC319F8D4DA2B15968DBEB9CDEBD@ns94d01ae4d850> <002d01ca5dff$c7ea38a0$0201a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> In-Reply-To: <002d01ca5dff$c7ea38a0$0201a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> Accept-Language: en-US, en-GB Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US, en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WiganSS: 01000000010018exlniht01.eur.nsroot.net ID0044<254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C7425869@exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 169.175.16.182 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: Re: BOJ 04-11.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_004_254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C7425869exlnmb06eurns_" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_004_254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C7425869exlnmb06eurns_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C7425869exlnmb06eurns_" --_000_254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C7425869exlnmb06eurns_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Claude, wow what a nice daytime signal. vy73 Marco DD7PC JN49ax ________________________________ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org] On Behalf Of Claude Berthebaud Sent: 05 November 2009 11:07 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: BOJ 04-11.jpg Hello Henny and LF Many thanks for the pic control ...now I'm in beacon 137705.hz qrss3 for the eventualy SWL good week and Best 73 's Claude F8boj JN16WA ----- Original Message ----- From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 10:51 AM Subject: LF: BOJ 04-11.jpg Hi LF, Capture BOJ, Henny pa3cpm best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzond= en: BOJ 04-11.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen= het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Contro= leer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijla= gen worden afgehandeld. --_000_254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C7425869exlnmb06eurns_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Claude,
wow what a nice daytime signal.
 
vy73
Marco
DD7PC
JN49ax

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o= rg=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Claude=20 Berthebaud
Sent: 05 November 2009 11:07
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: BOJ=20 04-11.jpg

Hello Henny and LF
Many thanks for the pic control ...now I'= m in=20 beacon
137705.hz qrss3 for the eventualy SWL&nbs= p; =20 good week and
Best 73 's
Claude F8boj JN16WA
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009= 10:51=20 AM
Subject: LF: BOJ 04-11.jpg

Hi LF,
Capture BOJ,
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
Het bericht kan nu= met het=20 volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
BOJ=20 04-11.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveilig= ing=20 tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen= niet=20 toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt we= ten=20 hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.
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Anyone monitoring 500 for dx at=20 present.
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Server) with ESMTP id 66FA81C00085 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:24:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.53.205]) by mwinf3528.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id E55BB1C00083 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:24:56 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091115182456939.E55BB1C00083@mwinf3528.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <1043CB7D895D4161B1C87CDD140332A2@AGB> From: "Graham" To: Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:24:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Running mW wspr Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00F2_01CA6620.EEB1D960" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00F2_01CA6620.EEB1D960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Running wspr at 100 % duty , not sure of the power to the Ae as th= e needle on the power meter is not moving , the first 3 small div= isions on the bird43 are 10 watts , the needle is still inside the= -0- no rx as I have a set of spurs right over the wspr band at= the moment=20 spots from G4WGT 33k G3RIk 65k M0BMU 270 ! 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Running   wspr at 100 % dut= y , not sure=20 of the  power to the  Ae as the  needle on the  po= wer meter=20 is  not  moving , the  first 3 small divisions on= the =20 bird43 are 10 watts  , the needle is  still inside the = -0- =20 no rx as I have a set of  spurs  right over the  wspr= band =20 at the  moment
 
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------=_NextPart_000_00F2_01CA6620.EEB1D960-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db06.mx.aol.com (rly-db06.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.81]) by air-db07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB071-ad04b05c77c104; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:33:00 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB066-ad04b05c77c104; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:32:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBFWr-0003LD-91 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:31:05 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBFWq-0003L4-CZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:31:04 +0000 Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com ([205.188.105.144]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBFWo-0005F6-IX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:31:04 +0000 Received: from imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (imo-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.137]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nAJMUoPo022396 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:30:50 -0500 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id l.cca.5d499b84 (14457) for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:30:47 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:26:10 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: F4DTL@aol.com X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 QRSS10 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_cca.5d499b84.38372002_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --part1_cca.5d499b84.38372002_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1258669569" -------------------------------1258669569 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Hello Jay,nice signal here. =20 =20 F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC756 Pro Ant: 10m tuned MF vertical Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 19/11/2009 13:44:55 Paris, Madrid, =20 jrusgrove@comcast.net a =E9crit : T/A enthusiasts Thanks to Rik, Andrey, Pat, Ralph (and others for trying) from the Tuesda= y=20 night QRSS3 session. Very=20 surprised to see the signal received in Russia! Tonight WE2XGR/2 will transmit in QRSS10 mode from ~ 2130 to ~ 2300Z and= =20 QRSS3 from ~2300 to ~ 0030Z=20 on 506.5 kHz. The QRSS10 transmission (letters XGR) will take about 4-1/2 minutes which= =20 may be longer than the=20 T/A QSB cycle to western EU. It will be interesting to see if QRSS10 migh= t=20 be too slow for T/A work.=20 As usual, any and all reports are appreciated. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 -------------------------------1258669569 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= FONT id=3Drole_document color=3D#000000 size=3D2 face=3DArial>
Hello Jay,nice signal here.
 
F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP

RX : Icom IC756 Pro
Ant: 10m tuned MF=20 vertical

 
Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 19/11/2009 13:44:55 Paris, Madrid,=20 jrusgrove@comcast.net a =E9crit :
T= /A=20 enthusiasts

Thanks to Rik, Andrey, Pat, Ralph (and others for try= ing)=20 from the Tuesday night QRSS3 session. Very
surprised to see the sign= al=20 received in Russia!

Tonight WE2XGR/2 will transmit in QRSS10 mode= from=20 ~ 2130 to ~ 2300Z and QRSS3 from ~2300 to ~ 0030Z
on 506.5 kHz.
<= BR>The=20 QRSS10 transmission (letters XGR) will take about 4-1/2 minutes which ma= y be=20 longer than the
T/A QSB cycle to western EU. It will be interesting= to see=20 if QRSS10 might be too slow for T/A work.
As usual, any and all repo= rts=20 are appreciated.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS =20 WE2XGR/2
 
 
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(CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091115205813572.8B9FD1C00081@mwinf3519.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <7C53F0821F4E4DAE965F1AFE9590A5AE@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <1043CB7D895D4161B1C87CDD140332A2@AGB> <0CADF4DD71FD43A2A8384463754F6344@AGB> <4B005411.4010506@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <1C14999758D149228277CBBC2446F1D7@AGB> <4B006812.7010101@sighthound.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4B006812.7010101@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:58:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Running mW wspr Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Yes just seeing decodes from Gary at the moment ,,I will qro 100mW .. thats a west coast qro as opposed to a east coast one ..... G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "John P-G" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 8:44 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Running mW wspr > > G > > 10dB might be a bit too much, your previous decodes were around -25/-28dB > here. Perhaps at some peaks of QSB, later in the night we might still > strike lucky. > > Am considering knocking up a transverter for 500kHz and replacing the MF > ATU out at the feedpoint (currently have an HF auto-atu there) to allow me > to radiate some signals on 500 again. > > Cheers, > > John > > > Graham wrote: >> 2334 45 mW drive to the antenna .. slight problem zeroing the meter >> as there is 60 uW of energy coming back in from the atu .... >> so thats about -10 dB down on the previous level >> >> G .. >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "John P-G" >> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 7:18 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: LF: Running mW wspr >> >>> >>> >>> >>> Graham wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Crazy system ..... spot just in from John ! >>> >>> >>> I thought your mW signal was meant to be a challenge, but of course >>> Roger's already discovered that WSPR will decode signals that you can't >>> hear, and are often so weak on a waterfall that QRSS3 would be a >>> struggle (despite what someone here repeatedly fails to comprehend) >>> >>> Can you go any lower? >>> >>> John >>> GM4SLV >>> >>> >> >> >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df12.mx.aol.com (rly-df12.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.25]) by air-df04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF043-5974b007c016f; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:09:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF126-5974b007c016f; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:09:07 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9nGg-00029N-MJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:08:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9nGg-00029D-9X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:08:22 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9nGe-0001pc-Ni for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:08:22 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.6] (opc1.twatt.home [192.168.1.6]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F223B512 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:08:19 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4B007BD3.8000801@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:08:19 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <269027.53851.qm@web28105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <269027.53851.qm@web28105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: G7NKS - Double Side Band: wspr? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I refer the honourable gentleman to the report I made some time ago.... 11/11/09: ================================================================= Jim. LF It looks like G7NKS has a 50/100Hz problem on the audio - both in TX and RX directions - there are up to 3 decodes by Jim of a single station (eg G3YXM), spaced by 50 & 100Hz and I see also that M0BMU is also reporting multiple decodes of G7NKS with the same 50/100Hz spacing. ================================================================ Jim has been looking for a source of 50Hz infecting his gear - looks like he hasn't found it yet :-) Needless to say, at this range, I only see the main signal... Cheers, John GM4SLV M0FMT wrote: > Hi Jim and LF group > > Please observe the reports I am getting from Jim G7NKS WSPR > transmissions :- > > First a weak one and then a strong one then a weak one (see below) > does it mean there's a sprog / modulation on Jim's transmission off > set by approximately +/-50c/s? From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de08.mx.aol.com (rly-de08.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.144]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDE054-4f44b12894a1bf; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 09:46:49 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE083-4f44b12894a1bf; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 09:46:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEl1e-0001Dt-6m for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:45:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEl1d-0001Dk-Q0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:45:21 +0000 Received: from mbox2.netikka.net ([213.250.81.203]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEl1d-0002U3-3v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:45:21 +0000 Received: from tupu.netikka.net (tupu [172.16.83.90]) by mbox2-feedback.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F770408042 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:45:15 +0200 (EET) Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by tupu.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BE8D4B0058 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:45:15 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 057D6495B8F for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:45:15 +0200 (EET) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:45:15 +0200 Message-ID: <1259505915.4b1288fb018a7@imp.netikka.net> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:45:15 +0200 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <2746F3E144D3480AB85CD466920B1313@lindavideo> <003001ca70e7$24aaf3a0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <003c01ca70eb$0aa52120$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <4B126AF9.3050300@ntlworld.com> <005001ca70f9$f63904e0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> In-Reply-To: <005001ca70f9$f63904e0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv diode Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) BY255 should be a suitable building block rated 1300V PIV 3A. Use equalizing resistors in parallell with each diode, typical values used= are 470...820kohm. Only controlled avalanche diodes can be series connected sa= fely without a reverse voltage equalizing network. Make sure you implement a healthy safety marigin, ie. don't use just as ma= ny diodes needed to acheive the needed voltage rating. Using 3 amp diodes whe= n 1 amp is called for is no luxury either. You don't want to hear the sound of= an angry rattlesnake from your thunderbox... this sound is often followed by popping and oozing electrolytic capacitors. Good luck and please don't get zapped Paul-Henrik Quoting mal hamilton : > Yes series for more V parallel for more I(amps) and preferable some R= and C > across each except they are really identical. > mal/g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: David Towers > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 12:37 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv diode > > > Hi Mal > surely "in series" to give a 4 KV diode at 1amp ? > dave G8SZX > > > > mal hamilton wrote: > Ken > On the serious side, use 6 x 1Kvolt @ 1A in parallel if u are stuck. > Don't get zapped > 73 mal/g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: mal hamilton > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:28 AM > Subject: LF: Re: 4kv diode > > > Electric Chair Co > Zapenda Cul de sac > Hellda State > Zip73 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ken > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:04 AM > Subject: LF: 4kv diode > > > Hello All. > I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or equivalent diode, BY4 4kv @= 1A, > BY6 6kv @ 1A, I have searched the web and looked in Farnell, any ideas > please. > > 73. > Ken > > M0KHW > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da08.mx.aol.com (rly-da08.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.82]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDA072-a874b12739235e; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:14:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA087-a874b12739235e; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:13:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEja9-0000r3-Bc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:12:53 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEja8-0000qu-Qd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:12:52 +0000 Received: from mail-px0-f174.google.com ([209.85.216.174]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEja7-0002Af-T5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:12:52 +0000 Received: by pxi4 with SMTP id 4so1781956pxi.4 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 05:12:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=YKRgq10tp0I4Rqm8nbw823ORFf8N3TnGPtmDRaHCfDM=; b=Ry0WMGcvrPMSdofliR2W98saRqcHhWf6+ttON0+AQmy66zsbKz4NynKtCGOGElEUo5 UQSWcFQP1HImCjj3yKTbIsvd7y3Y9DNYqM6rulKEItWTO+gPGTL2A3GG3gBJZmLRVHPh jmCXvONZScSp62R7rol53NJqkFxEgyieEBkmU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=PCsfLUn2FpxGtWaE6FhI5SgVsupXCKDt0H92q1T4YFRrr4ZIeDfblBuASH0RzMUEXM 7Fclfeo3xIvN57BEIgib0+/hPZaBaBjmTmPiDpQbXhDnIxhPtDyIqMNAgpIhoxZO4N2B ead5eMIViv9mvbPbSvbij8+gVvEFGeP81pGuU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.35.12 with SMTP id n12mr190130rvj.237.1259500363653; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 05:12:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <003c01ca70eb$0aa52120$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> References: <2746F3E144D3480AB85CD466920B1313@lindavideo> <003001ca70e7$24aaf3a0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <003c01ca70eb$0aa52120$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:12:43 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 33e70c80a46d3148 Message-ID: <1f0624b90911290512g7dcaf515ma6accacbcef77518@mail.gmail.com> From: Gary - G4WGT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv diode Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd1530ac5249e047982471a X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m232.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0cd1530ac5249e047982471a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Mal, Surely putting them in parallel will not increase the working voltage? Only the working current. Gary - G4WGT. 2009/11/29 mal hamilton > Ken > On the serious side, use 6 x 1Kvolt @ 1A in parallel if u are stuck. > Don't get zapped > 73 mal/g3kev > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* mal hamilton > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Sent:* Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:28 AM > *Subject:* LF: Re: 4kv diode > > Electric Chair Co > Zapenda Cul de sac > Hellda State > Zip73 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Ken > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Sent:* Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:04 AM > *Subject:* LF: 4kv diode > > Hello All. > I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or equivalent diode, BY4 4kv @ 1A, BY6 6kv > @ 1A, I have searched the web and looked in Farnell, any ideas please. > > 73. > Ken > > M0KHW > > --000e0cd1530ac5249e047982471a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mal,

Surely putting them in parallel will not increase= the working voltage?
Only the working current.

Gary - G4WGT.

2009/11/29 mal ha= milton <g3ke= vmal@talktalk.net>
Ken
On the serious side, use 6 x 1Kvolt= @ 1A in=20 parallel if u are stuck.
Don't get zapped
73 mal/g3kev
=A0
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mal=20 hamilton
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11= :28=20 AM
Subject: LF: Re: 4kv diode

Electric Chair Co
Zapenda Cul de sac
Hellda State
Zip73
=A0
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ken
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009= 11:04=20 AM
Subject: LF: 4kv diode

Hello All.
I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or= equivalent=20 diode, BY4=A0=A0 4kv @ 1A, BY6=A0 6kv @ 1A, I have searched the web=20 and looked in Farnell, any ideas please.
=A0
73.
Ken
=A0
M0KHW=A0=A0=A0

--000e0cd1530ac5249e047982471a-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me10.mx.aol.com (rly-me10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.44]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME023-9e34b0079fa176; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:00:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME107-9e34b0079fa176; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:00:28 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9n7e-0001zJ-3P for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:59:02 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9n7d-0001zA-5r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:59:01 +0000 Received: from web28105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.125]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9n7c-0001lU-TG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:59:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 53866 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Nov 2009 21:58:55 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1258322335; bh=m1XaNqM7JVbzZCL0gPs+t8vKVgn58vT2S2CFzOCvSXw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zOEgAgPWXkTHiln6Y7WlKsWdGsnAfI19O0Zlpq2x8iw/GRNpTxCyfe1psQd0qC2hEIvoYPMlk+rC5JgeAZwu97r1DS6kwT/aFL879tHlAannllPgfBgX1P59R+71s24bxzL8LOga8IwaGq9gBxgnsN0vIHJCHpR4Q6TM9toESgY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=nEhJt6GGzuSw0oMRaRbEHvpJfdNj5gLHvhTrx1Cdb2I4DGHdkVgCXwyAoHjRxaEK9B8HUr4Qs+qRrgI6MZVyoCpA+u5uQ7D1O/BXmoKHmCGB/6nxt8jYkGKAI6e656je9qaFN0s6Tr5daHzo7LdZhq6P4jMETSJHQkvksJCTOrQ=; Message-ID: <269027.53851.qm@web28105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ASeB8k8VM1leYiWyM_b1m8lBMNBWqXbqD_nWR9tVMjRNSytxZObYv02A9fC7HQJUnyunh5Z26RBk9YvTBxr7QVUjAk7FTles.Z46T9MVWRhnQkiFusVDh1az37.vE1.uo74_dQaxqzFZ0yrGSS3nSldHixQQL9RfiCMX5O.NNGrVRJ86d5lmhXqC5c7cyhzikoa3t4UpXMcrd3UHNCVmWqFvfc2UcTHLArwRqiEO4D0v_DgFeBzPuZwKzBMhOABUXTqPJFqxkYFnSj0XwxlYirAA6MF_ngG83v9.Bubecg-- Received: from [86.137.246.146] by web28105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:58:54 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:58:54 -0800 (PST) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <7C53F0821F4E4DAE965F1AFE9590A5AE@AGB> MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: G7NKS - Double Side Band: wspr? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-44528947-1258322334=:53851" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_90_100,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m243.2 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-44528947-1258322334=:53851 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jim and LF group =A0 Please observe the reports I am getting from Jim G7NKS WSPR transmissions= :-=20 =A0 First a weak one and then a strong one then a weak one (see below)=A0does= it mean there's a sprog / modulation on Jim's transmission off set by app= roximately +/-50c/s? I will try to get a time domain display of it when I= have time, it may provide a clue. Is it my RX? =A0 2009-11-15 21:26=A0 =A0G7NKS=A0 =A00.503904=A0 =A0-26=A0 =A0-1=A0 =A0IO92ub=A0 =A00.02=A0 =A0M0FMT=A0 =A0IO91ux=A0 =A09=A0 =A0180=A0 2009-11-15 21:26=A0 =A0G7NKS=A0 =A00.503853=A0 =A0+2=A0 =A0-1=A0 =A0IO92ub=A0 =A00.02=A0 =A0M0FMT=A0 =A0IO91ux=A0 =A09=A0 =A0180=A0 2009-11-15 21:26=A0 =A0G7NKS=A0 =A0=A0 0.503803=A0 -25=A0 =A0-1=A0 =A0IO92ub=A0 =A0 =A00.02=A0 =A0M0FMT=A0 =A0 IO91ux=A0 =A0=A0 =A09=A0 =A0180=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Don't think=A0it's my old HB=A0drifty DC RX that accounts for it because= all other reports are OK as far as I have seen to date but am open to com= ment. =A0 =A0 73 petefmt =20 --0-44528947-1258322334=:53851 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Jim and LF group
 
Please observe the reports I am getting from Jim G7NKS WSPR transmiss= ions :-
 
First a weak one and then a strong one then a weak one (see below)&nb= sp;does it mean there's a sprog / modulation on Jim's transmission off set= by approximately +/-50c/s? I will try to get a time domain display of it= when I have time, it may provide a clue. Is it my RX?
 
2009-11-15 21:26&nbs= p;  G7NKS   0.503904 =  -26 =  -1 <= /o:p>  IO92ub   0.02   M0FMT   IO91ux   9   180 =
2009-11-15 21:26&nbs= p;  G7NKS   0.503853 =  +2 <= /o:p>  -1 <= /o:p>  IO92ub   0.02   M0FMT   IO91ux   9   180 =
2009-11-15 21:26&nbs= p;  G7NKS     0.503803  -25 =  -1 <= /o:p>  IO92ub     0.02   M0FMT    IO91ux      9   180 =
 
 
 
 
 
Don't think it's my old HB drifty DC RX that accounts for= it because all other reports are OK as far as I have seen to date but am= open to comment.
 
  73 petefmt

=20 --0-44528947-1258322334=:53851-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (rly-dg10.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.94]) by air-dg08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG082-5f64afc7db34c; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:27:26 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG101-5f64afc7db34c; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:27:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8hB1-0007jI-O7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:25:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8hB1-0007j9-DI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:25:59 +0000 Received: from mta41.charter.net ([216.33.127.83]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8hB0-0000ew-Hp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:25:59 +0000 Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta41.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.02.04 201-2219-117-106-20090629) with ESMTP id <20091112212551.VFDT23932.mta41.charter.net@imp09>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:25:51 -0500 Received: from mp12 ([209.225.8.242]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id 4MRl1d0025DKPS905MRnV1; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:25:47 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=AHNBa_E9iH67H0Hg8FYA:9 a=2fd92C4CIXKoZfrZd69khQcAp5YA:4 Message-ID: <20091112162547.07WZ7.8495963.root@mp12> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:25:47 -0800 From: To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: lowfer@mailman.qth.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: from 64.206.3.50 by ssomail.charter.net; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:25:41 -0500 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: WD2XES WOLF 137.441 Thurs Nite Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) WD2XES will be running WOLF(10) on 137.441 kHz tonight from 0H UTC. Reports are welcome. John, W1TAG/WD2XES From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df04.mx.aol.com (rly-df04.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.17]) by air-df02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF021-5474b0c3b9c55; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:01:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF046-5474b0c3b9c55; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:01:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ND1Yj-00071P-P0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:00:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ND1Yj-00071G-Ar for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:00:21 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f215.google.com ([209.85.220.215]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ND1Yi-0003e2-Bu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:00:21 +0000 Received: by fxm7 with SMTP id 7so7271196fxm.29 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:00:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=tWqspFGkeR/yV2BWZM2P+bb44fCCDcl7KJ59gFAaHvE=; b=SXeHtoC2gnNoRZg8gXGrlTj+ciwvcOZ/DTm5CBgVohPBjdjYsyWHv4drDFqptl0pqn 7JXuRJxIU7NCoJyTecq2IfVXIplhh97dE6CIGkns9HqzdcWJN7pWqfYJFrQ0I5C1zZa1 9SEF9IUtXSW1BER6f226qOK87+wtfjsQq30w8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MIf7Hx5upd54AYUcFnhiSXZnMtENuiwxLOPno59T0GZELA+mUXnj+U8exb0aeyrXe4 aSmgxe40jzqVCW79AuoNSr6M7KhexyNyM5LG+tRN0ngk5TtKn0ZeXVIcTYJzVm93Q5CB HgG/FnsOzdqspL5/Rp0GBMoKOd0SpDki9JgMg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.139.161 with SMTP id t33mr750067hbt.115.1259092814158; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:00:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9afca2640911241140j230515e9kcbcaffd3911ccb82@mail.gmail.com> References: <9afca2640911241140j230515e9kcbcaffd3911ccb82@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:00:14 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: IRF510 500kHz PA stability issues - advice please Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d244.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) If you've studied the drain waveform when operating inrto a correct load, and assuming its all within design guidelines, then the trouble is because of nasty impedances presented by the antenna during the tuning process. What sort of antenna matching are you using? The often suggested idea of an an adjustable tap onto the loading coil can lead to damage as, when the antenna is detuned, the small number of turns of the link, with an untuned coil, appear not far different from a short circuit. A Class E PA, when presented with a slightly inductive short circuit can get a bit stressed. On my antenna over the years on 73, 137 now 500kHz the system has always been fed in series, using a ferrite tapped transformer to match load impedance. I kept well away from tapped or link windings as they are not easy to calculate or predict reliably. WIth a series fed system, a detuned antenna results in a high impedance. This may not always good news either to some class-E designs, but all my LF/MF PAs are completely open-circuit-proof voltage fed designs. The only true class-E one here was for 1.8MHz, and can be seen at http://www.g4jnt.com/TopbandPA.pdf . This was completely imune to open and short circuits and seemed very robust; but I did use the meatier and more robust higher voltage IRF540. Doesn't the IRF510 only have a 100V rating? Andy www.g4jnt.com This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health and safety police 2009/11/24 Roger Lapthorn : > I've been using a single IRF510 FET PA stage on 500kHz and it produces > around 6-7W of RF. But, when adjusting my antenna I've managed to damage > several devices now.=A0 I think the stage is running somewhere towards= class-E > looking at the PA drain waveform on the scope and I believe either the= stage > is going unstable or it is running in a condition in which too much curr= ent > (and heat) is taken and the device fails.500kHz teh ant > > Are there any simple "rules of thumb" or design/biasing/decoupling > guidelines to ensure that my devices don't destroy themselves with a les= s > than perfect load? > > Any simple advice would be appreciated. > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > > > > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc01.mx.aol.com (rly-mc01.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.85]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC022-d534b018cf93a9; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:33:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC013-d534b018cf93a9; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:33:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA5QT-0006pc-8s for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:31:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA5QS-0006pT-To for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:31:40 +0000 Received: from out1.ip09ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.245]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA5QQ-0001lF-6X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:31:40 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEACIbAUtcHc8z/2dsb2JhbADXL4Q8BIFt X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,752,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="221773696" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.29.207.51]) by out1.ip09ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 16 Nov 2009 17:31:26 +0000 Message-ID: <008401ca66e2$a109da60$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <004a01ca66be$7a813d30$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <001e01ca66c7$10041af0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:52:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500 daytime Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Good copy ur grabber at 1640 utc daylight here qsx 7033 for qso 73 tnx mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 2:14 PM Subject: LF: Re: 500 daytime > Hello Mal, > I am ready to receive here your qrss3. Though here evening... > > 73 Andrey > > > > Now active on 500 for daytime prop ck > g3kev > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md09.mx.aol.com (rly-md09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.147]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD011-9224b066182245; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:29:50 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD092-9224b066182245; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:29:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBPn2-00052S-2o for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:28:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBPn1-00052J-8l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:28:27 +0000 Received: from mail12.ssmb.com ([199.67.179.106] helo=mail.citigroup.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBPn0-00061F-2o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:28:27 +0000 Received: from imbhub-mw03.nam.nsroot.net ([159.17.94.190]) by imbaspam-ny06.iplex.ssmb.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_EXT/ev: 24737 $) with ESMTP id nAK8wBqg028976 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:58:14 GMT Received: from exlniht02.eur.nsroot.net (exlniht02.eur.nsroot.net [169.186.207.99]) by imbhub-mw03.nam.nsroot.net (Switch-3.4.0/Switch-3.4.0) with ESMTP id nAK8w96W014562 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:58:10 GMT Received: from exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net ([169.186.207.105]) by exlniht02.eur.nsroot.net ([169.186.207.99]) with mapi; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:57:57 +0000 From: "Scholz, Marco " To: "'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'" Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:57:56 +0000 Thread-Topic: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 QRSS10 Thread-Index: AcppvpswhUH1GgNJSKGrjjbIFhZV8wAAB5Ng Message-ID: <254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C77FA788@exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net> References: <000501ca67ba$e4817db0$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <002e01ca682b$c42ac460$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <00b301ca6915$df7b7440$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <20091120083258.C0711F3863@smtps02.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20091120083258.C0711F3863@smtps02.kuleuven.be> Accept-Language: en-US, en-GB Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US, en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 172.27.136.25 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: RE: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 QRSS10 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_002_254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C77FA788exlnmb06eurns_" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --_002_254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C77FA788exlnmb06eurns_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Jay, 1st T/A receiption on 500KHz for me :-) I copied your QRSS10 signal and was able to identify a lot of characters. Vy73 Marco DD7PC, JN49ax Rx: Pr=E4citronic MV62 and Minwhip Ant. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org] On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe Sent: 20 November 2009 09:33 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 QRSS10 Jay, good copy with the usual QSB. 73, Rik At 13:43 19/11/2009, you wrote: >T/A enthusiasts > >Thanks to Rik, Andrey, Pat, Ralph (and others for trying) from the >Tuesday night QRSS3 session. Very surprised to see the signal received >in Russia! > >Tonight WE2XGR/2 will transmit in QRSS10 mode from ~ 2130 to ~ 2300Z >and QRSS3 from ~2300 to ~ 0030Z on 506.5 kHz. > >The QRSS10 transmission (letters XGR) will take about 4-1/2 minutes >which may be longer than the T/A QSB cycle to western EU. It will be >interesting to see if QRSS10 might be too slow for T/A work. >As usual, any and all reports are appreciated. > >Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Andrey rn3agc" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 3:33 AM >Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 > > > > Hello Jay, Rik, LF, > > Captures at 00.32 and 01.42. > > Rik, here frequency 506501. > > > > 73 > > Andrey / KO85sv > > > > > >> T/A enthusiasts > >> > >> WE2XGR/2 will beacon in QRSS3 mode tonight on 506.5 kHz from ~ 2130 > >> to ~ 0030 Z. 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(rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC052-b364affd12d2bd; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:00:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC082-b364affd12d2bd; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:00:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9bt8-0005Ip-SF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:59:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9bt8-0005Ig-AT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:59:18 +0000 Received: from mailout1.go2.pl ([193.17.41.11]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9bt7-00006i-5u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:59:18 +0000 Received: from mailout1.go2.pl (unknown [10.0.0.104]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94BA630008 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:59:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from unknown (unknown [10.0.0.74]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:59:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from dns-failure [188.124.178.58] by poczta.o2.pl with ESMTP id hzdQrI; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:59:16 +0100 Message-ID: <00a401ca65da$4a8904d0$3ab27cbc@niurhaxf0xcqlj> From: "Marcin" To: References: <1484134848@web.de> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:59:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-O2-Trust: 2, 62 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: SP2KDS - Not any idea what the additional signs mean ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Horst, LF This is a traditional CW ID (15wpm) in introduction and end transmisi= on. Tekst: SP2KDS. Local hams plised this ID. Station SP2KDS will open today in the evening and at night:, on 137,70= 0 and 137,7785kHz. -- Vy 73! Marcin SQ2BXI Yesterday I sent some captures which show SP2KDS in QRSS3 with a good signal - but some addional signs tht I can not interprete. Anyone an idea? Horst _____________________________________________________________ DSL-Preisknaller: DSL-Komplettpakete von WEB.DE schon f=FCr 16,99 Euro/mtl.!* Hier klicken: http://produkte.web.de/go/02/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (rly-mf05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.175]) by air-mf07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF074-95d4b091a9b53; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:04:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF053-95d4b091a9b53; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:03:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCADV-0001qN-6M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:02:53 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCADU-0001qE-Q1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:02:52 +0000 Received: from out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.242]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCADU-0003Pk-87 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:02:52 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtsEALqoCEtcGukH/2dsb2JhbACCIyyLOQbEOIItgg8E X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,266,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="256364841" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.26.233.7]) by out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 22 Nov 2009 11:02:46 +0000 Message-ID: <005401ca6b63$518d75c0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <2B071368F251411E8EDB757230231590@IBM7FFA209F07C> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:02:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Mal - Activity/ERP? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0051_01CA6B63.5139FE90" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01CA6B63.5139FE90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chris Standard procedure, well documented and discussed on here many times.= =20 mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Chris=20 To: RSGB LF Group=20 Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 10:48 AM Subject: LF: Mal - Activity/ERP? Hi Mal, I agree with your comments about WSPR QSOs. Also pleased to see the renewed interest/increase in activity on 136= /7kHz. Earlier you said you had 1W ERP on 136, I am interested to know how= you measured/calculated that? Vy 73, Chris, G4AYT. ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01CA6B63.5139FE90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Chris
Standard procedure, well documented= and discussed=20 on here many times.
mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Chris
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 20= 09 10:48=20 AM
Subject: LF: Mal - Activity/E= RP?

Hi Mal,
I agree with your comments about WS= PR=20 QSOs.
Also pleased to see the renewed int= erest/increase=20 in activity on 136/7kHz.
Earlier you said you had 1W ERP on= 136, I am=20 interested to know how you measured/calculated that?
Vy 73,
Chris,=20 G4AYT.
------=_NextPart_000_0051_01CA6B63.5139FE90-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de04.mx.aol.com (rly-de04.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.140]) by air-de07.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDE073-4cc4b126b4512; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 07:38:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE043-4cc4b126b4512; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 07:38:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEj1m-0000iZ-A6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:37:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEj1l-0000iQ-Iy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:37:21 +0000 Received: from mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.47]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEj1k-0002GR-PS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:37:21 +0000 Received: from aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091129123715.HJZM17029.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:37:15 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [86.9.169.68]) by aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20091129123715.MCLL13254.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:37:15 +0000 Message-ID: <4B126AF9.3050300@ntlworld.com> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:37:13 +0000 From: David Towers User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <2746F3E144D3480AB85CD466920B1313@lindavideo> <003001ca70e7$24aaf3a0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <003c01ca70eb$0aa52120$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> In-Reply-To: <003c01ca70eb$0aa52120$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=W3tOLUehizD4qj6VhtReFuw5MKb8d+XqjIxlDsIazEA= c=1 sm=0 a=nN7BH9HXAAAA:8 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=HmCT5iXHAAAA:8 a=b7X6aEmgQGWhBsG0ekgA:9 a=Su3VY62E4wyzEn36j3QFDl5OD8QA:4 a=muIvw5a9-cgA:10 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=Nr7Pmq0tdocA:10 a=_xp6Eiw-vr000JQb6EoA:9 a=14jBCxEgX2Ew3qb3R8EA:7 a=eoJHVIeZTJmDDPeSiGHLdvwjzB8A:4 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv diode Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000007000008020509050207" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------000007000008020509050207 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Mal surely "in series" to give a 4 KV diode at 1amp ? dave G8SZX mal hamilton wrote: > Ken > On the serious side, use 6 x 1Kvolt @ 1A in parallel if u are stuck. > Don't get zapped > 73 mal/g3kev > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* mal hamilton > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > *Sent:* Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:28 AM > *Subject:* LF: Re: 4kv diode > > Electric Chair Co > Zapenda Cul de sac > Hellda State > Zip73 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Ken > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > *Sent:* Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:04 AM > *Subject:* LF: 4kv diode > > Hello All. > I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or equivalent diode, BY4 4kv @ > 1A, BY6 6kv @ 1A, I have searched the web and looked in > Farnell, any ideas please. > > 73. > Ken > > M0KHW > --------------000007000008020509050207 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Mal
surely "in series" to give a 4 KV diode at 1amp ?
dave G8SZX



mal hamilton wrote:
Ken
On the serious side, use 6 x 1Kvolt @ 1A in parallel if u are stuck.
Don't get zapped
73 mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:28 AM
Subject: LF: Re: 4kv diode

Electric Chair Co
Zapenda Cul de sac
Hellda State
Zip73
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Ken
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:04 AM
Subject: LF: 4kv diode

Hello All.
I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or equivalent diode, BY4   4kv @ 1A, BY6  6kv @ 1A, I have searched the web and looked in Farnell, any ideas please.
 
73.
Ken
 
M0KHW   

--------------000007000008020509050207-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me07.mx.aol.com (rly-me07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.41]) by air-me09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME093-9c74afd7f74269; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:47:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME073-9c74afd7f74269; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:47:01 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8yLV-0003Iy-If for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:45:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8yLV-0003Ip-0T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:45:57 +0000 Received: from mail-gx0-f221.google.com ([209.85.217.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8yLU-0007NV-B9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:45:56 +0000 Received: by gxk21 with SMTP id 21so3401201gxk.10 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:45:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wTAc9tfH8jpRoMq6LDzEPmRLbJ+jUuSZokrbuwcMd1U=; b=t5gGoS18Zs80rAJNt347Zoavf0BCpF/VgUWnXqKZwfjINRuEdjRugVoapaKEi9tzQm rgfq9AC1AJOCI9JMML9zme3CNLBZQ4XfPHxXVt64BAyoAdgNYxzR8RVkWiSUrsNPOYww Nt67+VmnXJtkCWmF2wqkz5vAk3tXfs4eRhsXQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BgiNGJGK1C79BLs3n9D7BC56nyswIgxLscApEymQfXlHsYwuU85Rqj8i+2KcM7YJuI CnJ+eBtPo51q67S9Y+SYWFHza9xqRU2YW3rFAmzZmllKz21qzxShNBtzc0DppnyCSTIV 6+aeiLQet5dxDQjFpl7lv1cBoCZdzfcpmArlw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.5.12 with SMTP id 12mr8159932ybe.141.1258127146286; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:45:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:45:44 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70911130745v28eb2295y41cf2c9591cd044e@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Last chance saloon 500 from Alaska Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m208.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Laurence, When will you have TX capability from Alaska!? --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Laurence BY3A-KL1X China wrote: > Im leaving for China in the morning to go back to work but will be liste= ning > on CW/QRSS on 500 and 138 over the next hour or so if anyone wants to ha= ve a > go from Eu on the dawn/dusk Alaska=A0path. > > The receiver will hopefully stay on here in Alaska and Ill be able to > "listen" remotely. > > Over the Pole didnt sound too bright as DCF39 wasnt that strong here but > things do change pretty quickly at times. As=A0 ever=A0 Im still on Rx= only > until I get more time. > > Ill be back here for Christmas... > > Laurence WE2 XPQ Part 5 Experimental > KL1X Wasilla Palmer Alaska BP51 IP > Will be KL1X/BY3A Tianjin China > > ________________________________ > Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it= now. --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (rly-mf03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.173]) by air-mf07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF071-9514b032f913e; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:19:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF037-9514b032f913e; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:19:47 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAXJn-0007Qc-H1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:18:39 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAXJn-0007QT-1b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:18:39 +0000 Received: from web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com ([69.147.97.73]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAXJm-00032n-1U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:18:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 6393 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Nov 2009 23:18:31 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1258499911; bh=CUm7kwRwgSbvOjNYeP1oBqXhUjq2INoXTdB6FxN484I=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wrM3Xn2b/S2lk1u4euxlL3IX2tEgLm6yEUI+ITN4/3hE7gmirQNjCzMNUL/3ll6443RXPbJV/QAyt/vvg8/JwaLOhFTQSXQGyzc9wcOmbWhP9ISaAeU+ISCcxZ47k6q4z7OPZz7MxEjXRpcHAZ2l7eV7KIceRDFEVP5cZlSDWY4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=AQuGuhcEoeyXZKBIHljoFm/0WJSHZWTInRLSgad2LL8ju8oA2Q/4AcqlFhAJPwNUXhcpLKpGJLh8DTFjFWjhiIMaNOmMtTo2vuDEaoJHpOKLXaYDodgJP8ge50NZf3qobPOaWcZY9fD0rDm1N9lIArEEDBq3dYWGmf0l/6oCpfM=; Message-ID: <64522.5406.qm@web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: o_ecFYMVM1n8OwWRVl.Fq5zeDrG10ZER0Pj9hjtX08MzTtytC0T0TRv94AtRJy07tMor264nzCYQQK..hJtrC6KKgAzzF3CKWRrIVnVAqYSsufa6VgI._FfPV5wVukXF.Wkg1N5ZBtLGDQI370yOqWzxSokvQoJJzw8iMqIOmSFSI5jZx0ty_.tEnEHOfsgsB4pfKIBmyYy4xs01q0.A0Q5n03gMHpQyZyIuBCOunq2gsJuzikKXxAup7mqCOl.uwrvur8Y6FVpGJMur55iJsX9ihFxrqpd4Nkub_Zk_yVn4HtYSuNwXXnqwqoajsKVNLWbj3zK39L1xUVYw8679ztXe0TOrJPVSQXYEgvpeS1c- Received: from [97.89.42.135] by web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:18:30 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:18:30 -0800 (PST) From: Andy - KU4XR To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz conditions good Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d227.2 ; domain : yahoo.com DKIM : pass Hello all : Conditions Stateside are wonderful tonite. LW broadcasters being heard on every frequency, and using a 6 KHz A.M. filter. I am hoping to decode " HGB " time signal with Multi-PSK never have before, hope so tonite. Good DX everyone, 73 :::: Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN. LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 185.29866 KHz ( QRSS-60 ) Coordinates: N: 35* 43' 54" - W: 84* 3' 16" http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr --- On Tue, 11/17/09, Roelof Bakker wrote: > From: Roelof Bakker > Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz conditions good > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 5:47 PM > Hello Roger, > > Yes, they are! > Canadian NDB's were coming in as early as 18:40 UTC. > > I also received NAVTEX, Yokohama, Japan on 518 kHz for the > first time ever. > > 73, > Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB103-ada4b0a47202d0; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:26:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB078-ada4b0a47202d0; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:26:10 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCUE3-0008IX-IG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:24:47 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCUE3-0008IO-43 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:24:47 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCUE0-0000Ro-Qx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:24:47 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8678E4C81AC for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:24:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 521944C8037 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:24:36 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B0A46C5.20604@online.fr> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:24:37 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: T/A [137 kHz] good conditions ( re also ! ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF, Good conditions last night on 137 Khz ! "XKO" (WD2XKO) qrss60 "XGJ" (WD2XGJ) qrss60 "XES" (WD2XES) dfcw60 It is great pleasure of finding the actors of my beginnings LF! Miss Joe (NA) and Jay (XES) so that the table is complete! Thank you Sirs!!!!. 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj NB : For information, the captures are always filed here : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md04.mx.aol.com (rly-md04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.142]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMD032-8ff4b12bf6d10b; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:37:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD047-8ff4b12bf6d10b; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:37:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEodc-0002wp-GG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:36:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEodc-0002wf-3U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:36:48 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEoda-0003wu-LF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:36:47 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 29 Nov 2009 18:36:40 -0000 Received: from p5DD35E12.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO Clemens04) [93.211.94.18] by mail.gmx.net (mp071) with SMTP; 29 Nov 2009 19:36:40 +0100 X-Authenticated: #17214767 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18KEuwod3oK3jf5RvEXY7/MU+NkGJQtPGxAWEfkZC MQ1EYWfLYrNy8d Message-ID: <01ba01ca7122$e40b8f30$0201a8c0@Clemens04> From: "Clemens Paul" To: References: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AA6E@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:36:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.53 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: LF Propagation literature? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Stefan, below a copy of my posting on this list from 3.11.09 maybe it's helpful. ----------- it's the CCIR- RECOMMENDATION 368-7 . There are no free sources on the internet for these graphs at least I was not able to find any. Maybe DK8KW can help you, he has a graph for 150kHz on his HP http://www.qru.de/burg.html where you can also find his email address. --------------------------------------------------------------- 73 Clemens DL4RAJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Schäfer" To: Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 7:25 PM Subject: LF: LF Propagation literature? Hello Lowfers, Is there any good literature in the web (web-site or pdf or book) about the propagation on LF? Best would be, if it is created by a ham for the hams! 73, Stefan/DK7FC -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eingehende eMail ist virenfrei. Von AVG überprüft - www.avg.de Version: 9.0.709 / Virendatenbank: 270.14.87/2534 - Ausgabedatum: 11/29/09 08:49:00 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (rly-mf10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.180]) by air-mf05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF054-9894af4847620; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:18:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF107-9894af4847620; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:18:01 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6VEv-0006AF-HJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:16:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6VEv-0006A6-18 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:16:57 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6VDn-0000Ag-Jv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:15:48 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.4] (rx1.twatt.home [192.168.1.4]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F3FD3B5CC for ; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 20:16:52 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4AF48434.2030602@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:16:52 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <9afca2640911060845r17eb75daracad4f874c3a1c9c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9afca2640911060845r17eb75daracad4f874c3a1c9c@mail.gmail.com> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: G3XBM: 500kHz ERP increased by 6dB - WSPR reports please Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Roger Lapthorn wrote: > Today I modified my 500kHz antenna. Roger, I've started WSPR monitoring at 20:18UTC - same RX setup here as normal - let's see what transpires! John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (rly-dd10.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.157]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD052-ba54b09bb87130; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:30:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD107-ba54b09bb87130; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:30:33 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCKw1-00062j-CP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:29:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCKw1-00062a-27 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:29:33 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCKw0-0006Q3-BI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:29:33 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E444C80E5 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:29:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A786B4C8079 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:29:26 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B09BB46.5050404@online.fr> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:29:26 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: blacksheep X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: LF T/A [137kHz] WD2XKO now ! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Dex , Very good copy of your beacon now (21:00utc) . 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc05.mx.aol.com (rly-mc05.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.89]) by air-mc04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC041-d774b03be1ca2; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:28:01 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC057-d774b03be1ca2; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:27:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAgoQ-0000fm-RR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:26:54 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAgoQ-0000fc-2u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:26:54 +0000 Received: from web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.121]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAgoP-0007FZ-Tv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:26:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 7872 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Nov 2009 09:26:48 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1258536408; bh=HWKg9xiCliiKhZNLQHZxujG6GUAscgylFGgmt5alVTg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tMSkDIt3QccKKSxs0mOPb00n3/s6rMOwmnFOrwnVK60RaRPXLd7Beb4HEG+FqtqBdCE7pfukbcwosnn2aMEtZE86tyq9zy7wGraCnTi1lVC7H81NWWPDzYfovD8J9IKveNWrNicLiWWqcZ0VRcjLtiwIVS2+FP1fM5fc3qMyHp8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=STaf/c9UoEjqmno5Qc3VFSkNPLDcbHvic+PBR9Rulfdaz3vyIHdph1DnMEsrLCWZ8qiPJG9JFneLnZ1uFknZ0kUavB5/p5lU5J6GUsCdTbbUeGS9tXyvFZN4xkyKf5MmPYIt224u4oi8tOcQ34WbbGory/w87usM2bWeg+A0RpE=; Message-ID: <572081.7375.qm@web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: a7JMX5UVM1kVZiY1mXmoq._0tzhZ2IwuacTbDCG7.OKMkiYMbUJMX0hAW8M8o54yk4c5TH7ooSG9TUHFii4i54ams9lUMN6TdQu2e0XAVkdtfBGJBCLKTvmXZUYCodf3OEm3LSgqI6f0xqLK5UdyDpDjYEwtlzx4yVz64RGUCBB5Ae_La16HZTxP0hv4gTpO0KF0yWt6UIhthqNdZcXqoOLbaihk26yvhKHDZJK0isYqO4Qx.ti3kP5NfKkEyj9TRh0T_iqTitLrxmphGjzvV9PjCoXZnWqW_xpWIfdFiUXg4DkZNSsgSgQMHYPP6wxO3LdT1Fe_DzwBmDdvCf58gvUZDpiflGJD2w-- Received: from [86.140.72.194] by web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:26:48 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:26:48 +0000 (GMT) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1543110570-1258536408=:7375" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m262.1 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-1543110570-1258536408=:7375 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi LF =A0 I think the issue is intermodulation products caused by over driving the= the linear RF stages of the TX into distortion=A0because when Jim reduces= drive the sidebands petty well disappear at this range. These observation= is based upon test carried out yesterday. There is another issue Jim seem= s to have which is that his PA grossly over heats (I think I am right) whe= n he reduces drive and that shouldn't happen. For modulation to take place= the output=A0of the modulator has to be mixed (hetrodyned) with the RF si= gnal. In this case I am guessing that the carrier is modulated by noise (5= 0c/s say) in the non linear (over driven linear RF stages) in the TX drive= r or output. The fact the PA over heats on reduced drive suggests to me the bias on the= PA transistors is being altered by changes to the drive anther indication= that the TX output may not be entirely linear --- On Wed, 18/11/09, James Moritz wrote: From: James Moritz Subject: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 1:13 Dear Jim LF Group, Looking at the sidebands on the G7NKS WSPR signals, mains hum or other noi= se by itself is not a sufficient explanation of what is seen. Simply addin= g 50Hz, 150Hz, etc. noise into the PC audio channel, then feeding the resu= lt into an SSB TX would give unwanted CW at frequencies offset from the SS= B carrier frequency by +/-50Hz, 150Hz and so on, i.e. with the carrier "di= al frequency" at 502.4kHz, unmodulated carriers would appear at 502.45kHz,= 502.55kHz and so on, in addition to the WSPR signal at around 503.9kHz.= However, these would probably largely be removed by the SSB filter in the= rig. Instead, we see unwanted sidebands offset from the wanted WSPR signa= l frequency by +/- 50Hz, 150Hz, with identical modulation to the wanted si= gnal. This requires some sort of non-linear process to cause the intermodu= lation between the presumed mains noise and the WSPR signal somewhere in= the TX chain. One possibility is that intermodulation occurs in the PA. Jim's descriptio= n suggests that he is persuading the HF PA in the IC735 to produce output= at 500k. At this frequency, the PA linearity may well be poor due to the= impedance matching, coupling, decoupling and feedback components in the= PA being wrong for the frequency, and high flux densities occuring in fer= rite components due to the low operating frequency. But this wouldn't expl= ain why Jim also gets multiple received signals from a strong station with= a clean signal, which implies some identical noise source and distortion= in the receive path. It would also mean the mains noise getting through= the filtering in the rig somehow. A possibility that would explain the unwanted sidebands appearing on both= TX and RX signals is if one of the oscillators in the system has mains no= ise sidebands. The sound card clock seems unlikely, since this is just a= simple crystal oscillator. I see the IC735 has some sort of multi-loop PL= L synthesiser, which would certainly be prone to this type of spurious sig= nal, since any kind of mains noise getting in would modulate the VCO frequ= encies, and would probably be the same on transmit and receive. This could= be checked by receiving a clean carrier somewhere around 500kHz, and exam= ining the audio output using Spec Lab or Argo or similar to see if 50Hz an= d 150Hz sidebands are present on the received audio tone. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Cowburn" To: Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:26 PM Subject: LF: rule #2 - assumption is the brother of all foul ups > LF >=20 >=20 >=20 > Sidebands are back!=A0 I think its caused by my TX getting hot and bothe= red by > struggling at 500.=A0 From cold it txs 50 watts but this soon drops back= to > around 35, and the sidebands appear.=A0 My sigs are better so having the= txfr > outside the shack and at the antenna is a vast improvement, but I now ne= ed > to work on the cooling. =20 --0-1543110570-1258536408=:7375 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi LF
 
I think the issue is intermodulation products caused by over driving= the the linear RF stages of the TX into distortion because when Jim= reduces drive the sidebands petty well disappear at this range. These obs= ervation is based upon test carried out yesterday. There is another issue= Jim seems to have which is that his PA grossly over heats (I think I am= right) when he reduces drive and that shouldn't happen. For modulation to= take place the output of the modulator has to be mixed (hetrodyned)= with the RF signal. In this case I am guessing that the carrier is modula= ted by noise (50c/s say) in the non linear (over driven linear RF stages)= in the TX driver or output.
The fact the PA over heats on reduced drive suggests to me the bias= on the PA transistors is being altered by changes to the drive anther ind= ication that the TX output may not be entirely linear

--- On Wed= , 18/11/09, James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>= wrote:

From: James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworl= d.com>
Subject: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org
Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 1:13

Dear Jim LF Group,

Looking at the sidebands= on the G7NKS WSPR signals, mains hum or other noise by itself is not a su= fficient explanation of what is seen. Simply adding 50Hz, 150Hz, etc. nois= e into the PC audio channel, then feeding the result into an SSB TX would= give unwanted CW at frequencies offset from the SSB carrier frequency by= +/-50Hz, 150Hz and so on, i.e. with the carrier "dial frequency" at 502.4= kHz, unmodulated carriers would appear at 502.45kHz, 502.55kHz and so on,= in addition to the WSPR signal at around 503.9kHz. However, these would= probably largely be removed by the SSB filter in the rig. Instead, we see= unwanted sidebands offset from the wanted WSPR signal frequency by +/- 50= Hz, 150Hz, with identical modulation to the wanted signal. This requires= some sort of non-linear process to cause the intermodulation between the= presumed mains noise and the WSPR signal somewhere in the TX chain.
One possibility is that intermodulation occurs in the PA. Jim's description suggests that= he is persuading the HF PA in the IC735 to produce output at 500k. At thi= s frequency, the PA linearity may well be poor due to the impedance matchi= ng, coupling, decoupling and feedback components in the PA being wrong for= the frequency, and high flux densities occuring in ferrite components due= to the low operating frequency. But this wouldn't explain why Jim also ge= ts multiple received signals from a strong station with a clean signal, wh= ich implies some identical noise source and distortion in the receive path= . It would also mean the mains noise getting through the filtering in the= rig somehow.

A possibility that would explain the unwanted sideban= ds appearing on both TX and RX signals is if one of the oscillators in the= system has mains noise sidebands. The sound card clock seems unlikely, si= nce this is just a simple crystal oscillator. I see the IC735 has some sor= t of multi-loop PLL synthesiser, which would certainly be prone to this type= of spurious signal, since any kind of mains noise getting in would modula= te the VCO frequencies, and would probably be the same on transmit and rec= eive. This could be checked by receiving a clean carrier somewhere around= 500kHz, and examining the audio output using Spec Lab or Argo or similar= to see if 50Hz and 150Hz sidebands are present on the received audio tone= .

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU


----- Original Messa= ge ----- From: "James Cowburn" <james.cowburn@virgin.net>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Monday, Nov= ember 16, 2009 8:26 PM
Subject: LF: rule #2 - assumption is the brother= of all foul ups


> LF
>
>
>
> Sidebands are= back!  I think its caused by my TX getting hot and bothered by
&g= t; struggling at 500.  From cold it txs 50 watts but this soon drops= back to
> around 35, and the sidebands appear.  My sigs are be= tter so having the txfr
> outside the shack and at the antenna is a= vast improvement, but I now need
> to work on the cooling.

<= BR>

=20 --0-1543110570-1258536408=:7375-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc09.mx.aol.com (rly-mc09.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.93]) by air-mc01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC014-d934afda61b24d; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:32:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC093-d934afda61b24d; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:31:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N90v5-0004QT-8S for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:30:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N90v4-0004QK-Rq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:30:50 +0000 Received: from mk-outboundfilter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N90v4-0008Tu-AL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:30:50 +0000 X-Trace: 268652937/mk-outboundfilter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/PIPEX/$PIPEX-ACCEPTED/pipex-temporary-group/79.71.207.20/None/m0afj@dsl.pipex.com X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.71.207.20 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: m0afj@dsl.pipex.com X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkMBAKYx/UpPR88U/2dsb2JhbAAI1hyEPAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,738,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="268652937" X-IP-Direction: IN Received: from 79-71-207-20.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO [10.0.0.4]) ([79.71.207.20]) by smtp.pipex.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 13 Nov 2009 18:30:43 +0000 Message-ID: <4AFDA5D9.9010704@dsl.pipex.com> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:30:49 +0000 From: tim hague User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <00df01ca6488$e9244a80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <00df01ca6488$e9244a80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: PIRATES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) mal hamilton wrote: > Lots of pirates reported around the east african coast and Indian > ocean but now Radio pirates !!!! on 500. > How would one know a Pirate? their style of sending on cw or the way > they WSPR. > Beware of the WSPR merchants no ID just carriers switching on/off as > far as the casual radio amateur is concerned. Instead of a simple > approach worldwide to issue Radio Amateur licences for the > traditional CW mode on 500, appliance operator licences were issued > for Broadcast modes ie > CW beacons, Data beacons, and other transmissions, which must stop at > Country Borders and must not be reported by anyone hearing such > transmissions beyond these Borders. > In other words the whole 500 khz business is Chaotic, whereas the > other MF allocation 160 metres is orderly and sensibly regulated using > in the main CW and SSB. > It would appear the appropriate license authorities do not think the > Appliance Operator has much to contribute to the advancement or > research on 500. > The marine service has been using the band for the past 100 years and > has exhausted all possibilities and concluded it is of no further use, > with the advancement of Satellite communications technology. > 500 in EU seems to be a fun band for WSPR Beacons where no operator > participation is required just unattended machines belching out bits > of data and generating QRM to the few Radio amateurs trying to get by > on CW. > Let us have your opinion. > De G3KEV > > > > Call for the men in white coats :) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma03.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMA031-8d24b142f9b94; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:48:49 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA104-8d24b142f9b94; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:48:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NFD9S-000082-FV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:47:18 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NFD9S-00007t-3o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:47:18 +0000 Received: from mcgi69.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.205]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NFD9Q-0005J5-09 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:47:18 +0000 Received: from mcgi69.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi69.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1013E11578 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:47:10 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [91.77.91.6] by mcgi69.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:47:04 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:47:04 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <4B140806.10012.1E82610@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> Message-Id: <622008509.1259614024.60767016.44464@mcgi69.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: DX test 136.318kHz Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Mike! Started my grabber on for the night overview. qrss.nm.ru * Mike Dennison [Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:59:34 -0000]: > I will be transmitting "XDV" overnight (1800 - 0900 UTC) tonight > using QRSS60 on 136.3180kHz. DX reports are welcome. > > Mike. G3XDV > ========== > -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de07.mx.aol.com (rly-de07.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.143]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE054-4e94b07c7632e8; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:56:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE072-4e94b07c7632e8; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:56:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBnco-0004Bq-K9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:55:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBnco-0004Bh-85 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:55:30 +0000 Received: from smtp22.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.10]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBncn-0006n8-M3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:55:30 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2219.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id EC3377000086 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:55:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from F8BOJSQUSV2QH5 (12.229.197-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.197.229.12]) by msfrf2219.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id D921E7000085 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:55:22 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091121105522889.D921E7000085@msfrf2219.sfr.fr Message-ID: <000b01ca6a95$3d7f3a60$0301a8c0@F8BOJSQUSV2QH5> From: "claude berthebaud" To: References: <200911211147020937.19DC740F@smtp2.numeo.fr> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:27:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091120-1, 20/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: F8BOJ 40dB and G3XDV 20-30dB over noise on 137 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi John many thanks gor the control good week end Claude F8boj JN16WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "John RABSON" To: Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 11:47 AM Subject: LF: F8BOJ 40dB and G3XDV 20-30dB over noise on 137 > At 1043z. > > John Rabson > F5VLF > 58800 Cervon > France > JN17vg > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMG103-9fc4b12f967218; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:45:17 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG026-9fc4b12f967218; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:44:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEsUt-0004dC-GB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:44:03 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEsUt-0004d3-3y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:44:03 +0000 Received: from smtp23.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.20]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEsUr-0005ql-GT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:44:03 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2309.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0C331700008A for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:43:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (12.5.194-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.194.5.12]) by msfrf2309.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id AE81A7000086 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:43:55 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091129224355714.AE81A7000086@msfrf2309.sfr.fr Message-ID: <000601ca7145$6ec0c650$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:43:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091129-1, 29/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: F8boj qrss60 137776.20hz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01CA714D.D03DC510" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01CA714D.D03DC510 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good evening Andrey=20 Many thanks for the openning your grabber y copy my traces very well thanks you very match also for the Markus DF6NM grabber and F1afj JPierre good night for all Claude F8boj JN16wa ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01CA714D.D03DC510 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Good evening Andrey
Many thanks for the openning your=20 grabber
y copy my traces very well
thanks you very match also for the=20 Markus DF6NM grabber
and F1afj JPierre good night for all<= /FONT>
Claude F8boj JN16wa
------=_NextPart_000_0003_01CA714D.D03DC510-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD024-9044afb2fbf63; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:42:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD054-9044afb2fbf63; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:42:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8KwR-0004Q9-8e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:41:27 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8KwQ-0004Q0-Sv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:41:26 +0000 Received: from mx01.infotech.at ([213.174.240.1]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8KwO-0006xv-1w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:41:26 +0000 Received: from [213.174.228.217] by mx01.infotech.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8KwL-0007Kp-4e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:41:21 +0100 Message-ID: <4AFB2FB4.1020503@inext.at> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:42:12 +0100 From: Oberreiter Oswald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1AC807D90B0B121E1F9A@kabelmail.de> <4AFB27FB.6020702@inext.at> In-Reply-To: <4AFB27FB.6020702@inext.at> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: what is it? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) sollte natuerlich YO2IS heißen. Oberreiter Oswald schrieb: > hallo Uwe ! > danke fuer den raport , das ist ein qso von oe5odl mit oy2is beginn > 0070z . du siehst hier nur oe5odl . > freilaufender vfo mit einigen herz drift ,in qrss3 merkt man das kaum > 73 de ossi oe5odl > > Uwe Jannsen schrieb: >> Hi all, >> >> pse see: >> >> http://dj8wx-dl.de/captu38 >> >> regards >> Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv >> >> >> >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md09.mx.aol.com (rly-md09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.147]) by air-md05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD051-9214afb177c111; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:59:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD091-9214afb177c111; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:58:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8JKQ-00044K-3R for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:58:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8JKP-00044B-Nu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:58:05 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8JJj-0008GV-1q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:57:23 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7286151C003; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:57:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AD16F3863; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:57:55 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id 87CA518056; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:57:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from 123.102-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (123.102-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [87.64.102.123]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:57:54 +0100 Message-ID: <20091111205754.ebmv41f7k0c4g4co@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:57:54 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "jwfisher@alumni.princeton.edu" , "jwfisher@alumni.princeton.edu NOT" Cc: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <20091111075814.94NGA.7351.root@tormtz04> In-Reply-To: <20091111075814.94NGA.7351.root@tormtz04> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 87.64.102.123 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: 500 kHz WSPR de VE1JF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) > Might it be feasible for you to send me a circuit diagram by an > attachment I could forward to my colleagues? I only have a drawing on paper. I will scan it (if I can get the scanner working) and send it to you. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df06.mx.aol.com (rly-df06.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.19]) by air-df08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF081-55c4b0a88d168; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:06:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF067-55c4b0a88d168; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:06:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCYbI-0000ZF-FR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:05:04 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCYbI-0000Z6-3G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:05:04 +0000 Received: from mail-yw0-f176.google.com ([209.85.211.176]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCYbG-00020n-9G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:05:04 +0000 Received: by ywh6 with SMTP id 6so4671796ywh.4 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:04:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Lnuvpxzq9kYve4FkNtYEomXQDYNQLc2++i0V089Xoe0=; b=imM3eh4vs/qYbYXzybmxu5Ra/jEAZ/edzjo5fnhzfdhDGsF9KhyfFJlLqLazaiHd2I Yw/4Hkd3W9ILtI+ff0YBN9lCTPcuAjgXAUCV82ahosWswGLC4EJ4zwoEjTQZfwtRVhuo CobqGbAoO/C7JlfaycIpIxkTNSKeSs8kpXTxs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=N4jHceQ7ReSJjA1yAqvQD/az9DLx6L6hv1UIJFUAmT3fh2LCcj2T1Mi3zNg0JiDD+R YJJuro65jPEG1Iv8RxWp5wZ26l5phZsgMlqMEnu/MYi6ozD45egPO2BGDI8FKGgrEg7w O7JAUFjwsXVuUIBf7EoBi12r2s7amC1HOZJI8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.127.17 with SMTP id z17mr8537271ybc.61.1258981495628; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:04:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:04:55 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70911230504v4d5d5936o5aee53bd506a30b9@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: xgj,xes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m204.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thank you Victor for the capture! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 12:45 AM, wrote: > 73 > > Victor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG083-9f34b04556eb3; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:13:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG015-9f34b04556eb3; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:13:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAqtP-0004gm-MC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:12:43 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAqtP-0004gd-5j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:12:43 +0000 Received: from col0-omc1-s15.col0.hotmail.com ([65.55.34.25]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAqtN-0004tq-Av for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:12:43 +0000 Received: from COL122-W57 ([65.55.34.8]) by col0-omc1-s15.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:10:33 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:10:33 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <041d01ca660d$05809000$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <041d01ca660d$05809000$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Nov 2009 20:10:33.0574 (UTC) FILETIME=[2F3CD860:01CA688B] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_aecf032f-882d-48ae-851b-741f8c127740_" Subject: LF: QSL CARDS X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_aecf032f-882d-48ae-851b-741f8c127740_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Mal! I have received the letter and QSL cards. Thanks! Lubos, OK2BVG From: g3kevmal@talktalk.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:02:23 +0000 Subject: LF: QSL CARDS If the stns below see this msg your QSL cards for=20 LF and MF qso's have been dispatched 1st class. Your cards have been=20 received. =20 JH0BBE , YO2IS and OK2BVG =20 de Mal/G3KEV =20 _________________________________________________________________ Nov=E1 Windows 7: Zjedodu=B9te si ka=BEdodenn=ED =FAkoly. Kter=FD po=E8=ED= ta=E8 je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD? http://windows.microsoft.com/shop=3D --_aecf032f-882d-48ae-851b-741f8c127740_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Mal!
I have received the letter and QSL cards. Thanks!

Lub= os, OK2BVG

From: g3kevmal@talktalk.net
T= o: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:02:23 +0000Subject: LF: QSL CARDS

If the stns below see this msg your= QSL cards for=20 LF and MF qso's  have been dispatched 1st class. Your cards have= been=20 received.
 
JH0BBE , YO2IS and OK2BVG
 
de Mal/G3KEV
 

Nov=E1 Windows 7: Zjedod= u=B9te si ka=BEdodenn=ED =FAkoly. Kter=FD po=E8=EDta=E8 je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD?<= /body> =3D --_aecf032f-882d-48ae-851b-741f8c127740_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da02.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDA021-a7c4b0d9b9b4; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:03:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA074-a7c4b0d9b9b4; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:03:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDP06-0008FP-36 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:02:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDP05-0008FG-Ml for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:02:09 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDP05-00044f-2t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:02:09 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3528.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6E39E1C00084 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:02:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3528.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5F6C51C00085 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:02:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.93.11]) by mwinf3528.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 14F481C00084 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:02:01 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091125210201859.14F481C00084@mwinf3528.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <599A7C6FD9D54072BA20B20C141D21CC@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:02:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Soft Rock for 500 Khz where to buy ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0048_01CA6E12.87DA2E50" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01CA6E12.87DA2E50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok Thanks for all the info=20 tnx - Graham ,=20 From: Graham=20 Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 11:29 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Soft Rock for 500 Khz where to buy ?? All . Where can a Soft Rock rx for 500 Khz be purchased from ./ Or do you need to modify a 455 Khz version for 500 ? If so .. where from a 455khz version ? Tnx-=20 Graham ..=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01CA6E12.87DA2E50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ok Thanks for  all the  inf= o=20
 
tnx - Graham ,

From: Graham
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 11:29 PM
Subject: LF: Soft Rock for 500 Khz where to buy ??

All .
 
Where  can a Soft Rock rx for&nb= sp; 500 =20 Khz be  purchased from ./
 
Or  do  you  need = ; to =20 modify a 455 Khz version for 500 ?
If so .. where from a 455khz version= ?
 
Tnx-
 
Graham ..




------=_NextPart_000_0048_01CA6E12.87DA2E50-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA024-a574afe9fcf9a; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:17:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA027-a574afe9fcf9a; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:17:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9HXh-0007Yv-KT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:15:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9HXh-0007Ym-9X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:15:49 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9HXg-0005OY-J2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:15:49 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.4] (rx1.twatt.home [192.168.1.4]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F8E63B49B for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:15:45 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4AFE9F71.6060305@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:15:45 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <00df01ca6488$e9244a80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <1258158609.4671.18.camel@pat-compaq-evo> In-Reply-To: <1258158609.4671.18.camel@pat-compaq-evo> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: PIRATES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) g4gvw wrote: > Mal, > Perhaps you should consider the view that, as with the cyclists and > horse riders there are modes of operation that lead to the promotion of > health and happiness and a calm and healthy state of mind. > No, surely these alternative modes of transport should be banned if they clog the roads up and prevent those with the high powered sports cars getting from A to B as quickly as possible! (where A = Scarborough and B = anywhere the driver considers is DX) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db05.mx.aol.com (rly-db05.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.80]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB042-ac34afd8a993d3; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:34:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB051-ac34afd8a993d3; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:34:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8z5W-0003oG-Uv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:33:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8z5V-0003o7-GR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:33:29 +0000 Received: from mail-gx0-f221.google.com ([209.85.217.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8z5T-0007jZ-ME for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:33:29 +0000 Received: by gxk21 with SMTP id 21so3454964gxk.10 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:33:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=a5z/cfQEGwTEMgOuJJWiAKD5/ACUO7lkHKo3TKFUyzo=; b=nrhjqUio8DLcyeSoLH9uuO95YGAADW5GYk9UIWLHL6asyF71RDLTGfs5RaKGl/wV6D VDeKrosrb1vAWel+uNICOyUNA/5h5KQjcicCxX363KzdkNJVHAxRxcNhR7fdZnzLrZbR MmQYXLsqJYtfURtc/hrdxuMXDOVeH4YxnkeT0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=RsA7obrUBV6uKKT/hhEw1dgM/XBdoSaxCqEzTaeMK+qgPS9qYtuJtuQnaZgUPccugo P7oQ1jyQF/gj6PKL7P3AsgrNETtE+8KZii4Bp8IqESXYE4Wup4B75+9ovcC6Y1ivLJYS 9XCQOGIH5X26DAheeiSvTTv9IeM8g/xVAuKuE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.150.79 with SMTP id m15mr481946hbb.32.1258130000701; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:33:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <961313.39040.qm@web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <961313.39040.qm@web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:33:20 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f9a72cc5eb8d0478433706 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m247.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001485f9a72cc5eb8d0478433706 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 And who do you think would bother if you did work one ? Who would even care ? Andy www.g4jnt.com this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny state 2009/11/13 M0FMT > The whole setup looks decidedly dodgy to me. If they are Pirates how > would it affect my license if the opportunity arose for me to work one and I > did? The only place I know where I am licensed work a non Amateur station is > on 5megs and that can only be a UK Mill station. > > It's a question of how much you value your license I suppose. > > 73 petefmt > > > --- On *Fri, 13/11/09, Graham * wrote: > > > From: Graham > Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature > stations ?? > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 14:53 > > Scott > > SO.... Matter and antimatter cannot coexist at close range for more than a > small fraction of a second because they collide with and annihilate each > other, releasing large quantities of energy in the form of gamma rays > > Got it now .. gamma rays are electromagnetic ..hence radio waves are > produced .. which may suffer (constructive interference) or (destructive > interference) resulting in large variations in amplitude at the point of > observation ..... > > Thanks ! > > G .. > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Scott Tilley" > > > Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:29 PM > To: > > > Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature > stations ?? > > > > > Hi John > > > > VX is in developmental service (same idea as US stations), EI in amateur > service... Like positive and negative antimatter they don't mix. > > > > 73 Scott > > > > > > John P-G wrote: > >> Scott Tilley wrote: > >>> Hi Graham > >>> > >>> All Canadian 600m stations are operating under COMMERCIAL Developmental > Licenses and are not able to communicate with the Amateur Service. > >> > >> So VX9MRC shouldn't be having regular CW QSOs with EI0CF? > >> > >> Still confused.... > >> > >> John > >> GM4SLV > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > --001485f9a72cc5eb8d0478433706 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
And who do you think would bother if you did work one ?
Who would even care ?

Andy
www.g4jnt.= com

this email has been scanned for political correctness by th= e nanny state


2009/11/13 M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>
The whole setup looks=A0decidedly dodgy to me. If they are Pira= tes how would it affect my license if the opportunity arose for me to work= one and I did? The only place I know where I am licensed work a non Amate= ur station is on 5megs and that=A0can only be a UK Mill station.
=A0
It's a question of how much you value your license I suppos= e.
=A0
73 petefmt


--- On Fri, 13/11/09, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>= wrote:

From: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Subject= : Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso wi= th other amature stations ??
To: rsgb= _lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 14:53
=
Scott

SO.... Matter and antimatter cannot coexist at close ran= ge for more than a small fraction of a second because they collide with an= d annihilate each other, releasing large quantities of energy in the form= of gamma rays

Got it=A0 now .. gamma rays are electromagnetic ..hence radio waves ar= e produced .. which may suffer=A0 (constructive interference) or (destruct= ive interference) resulting in large variations in amplitude at the point= of observation .....

Thanks=A0 !

G ..

---------------------------------------= -----------
From: "Scott Tilley" <st= hed475@telus.net>
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:29 PM
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Subject: Re: LF: Are the= =A0 new VE stations able to=A0 qso=A0 with=A0 other amature stations ??
>
> Hi John
>
> VX is in developmental service= (same idea as US stations), EI in amateur service... Like positive and ne= gative antimatter they don't mix.
>
> 73 Scott
> >
> John P-G wrote:
>> Scott Tilley wrote:
>>&= gt; Hi Graham
>>>
>>> All Canadian 600m stations= are operating under COMMERCIAL Developmental Licenses and are not able to= communicate with the Amateur Service.
>>
>> So VX9MRC shouldn't be having regular CW QSOs wi= th EI0CF?
>>
>> Still confused....
>>
>= > John
>> GM4SLV
>>
>>
>
>



=

--001485f9a72cc5eb8d0478433706-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (rly-dd06.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.153]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD071-b864b03284fd4; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:48:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD068-b864b03284fd4; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:48:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAWq2-0007GE-0C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:47:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAWq1-0007G5-Iw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:47:53 +0000 Received: from smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAWq0-0002nA-UQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:47:53 +0000 Received: from webmail.xs4all.nl (dovemail10.xs4all.nl [194.109.26.12]) by smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nAHMlhXb002603 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:47:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roelof@ndb.demon.nl) Received: from 82.161.81.65 (SquirrelMail authenticated user pa0rdt) by webmail.xs4all.nl with HTTP; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:47:52 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <9afca2640911171439r5f3352bcpc45b7052fa55b354@mail.gmail.com> References: <9afca2640911171439r5f3352bcpc45b7052fa55b354@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:47:52 +0100 From: "Roelof Bakker" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.18 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz conditions good Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Roger, Yes, they are! Canadian NDB's were coming in as early as 18:40 UTC. I also received NAVTEX, Yokohama, Japan on 518 kHz for the first time ever. 73, Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD103-9124b02b95b32f; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:24:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD072-9124b02b95b32f; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:55:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAPRw-0003GY-Us for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:54:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAPRw-0003GP-3r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:54:32 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([199.185.220.240]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAPRu-0000iW-Ey for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:54:32 +0000 Received: from edtnaa03.telusplanet.net ([75.157.140.241]) by priv-edtnes28.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091117144927.JTDW760.priv-edtnes28.telusplanet.net@edtnaa03.telusplanet.net> for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:49:27 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.67] (d75-157-140-241.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.140.241]) by edtnaa03.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 2AB281F023D2AD39 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:49:26 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4B02B7F6.4090100@telus.net> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 06:49:26 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1f0624b90911160805u4435bd18ue805924594d8b997@mail.gmail.com> <20091117081718.BDD6EF3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> <4B02B081.4080003@telus.net> <57a24ca70911170629t5d073432sf5c3c06bb071d0d8@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <57a24ca70911170629t5d073432sf5c3c06bb071d0d8@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Party to an offence? Warren Ziegler wrote: > Lighten up Scott! > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Scott Tilley wrote: > >> The first illegal ON-VX QSO. >> >> >> >> Rik Strobbe wrote: >> >>> Gary, All, >>> >>> yesterday I could copy VX9MRC in QRSS3 with a surprising strong signal as >>> early as 18 UTC, when I launched Argo. >>> Throughout the evening the signal was strong and with little QSB from >>> 19-22UTC, after that the signal became weaker with much more QSB. >>> Probably because I had a sked with Joe at 22:40 UTC ;-) . >>> But despite all we managed to complete the QSO with both way M report >>> (would have been a solid O earlier the evening). >>> A first ON-VE QSO on 500kHz and with +/- 4075km a new DX record for me >>> Joe transmitted on 507.770 and I on 501.190. >>> Between 19 and 22 UTC the signal was audible most of the time and would >>> have been CW copy if it were not squeezed between the NDB "Z" carrier at >>> 507.980 (S9+ here) the SM6BHZ CW/SSB test transmissions (up to S9) and a >>> local birdie on 507.600. >>> >>> For the QSO I was running 300W into my 11m high / 25m long lazy-L antenna, >>> estimated ERP about 1.5 Watt (at best, if the greenery does not absorb too >>> much) >>> >>> The night from Sunday - Monday I left Argo running, VX9MRC produced a >>> good signal all through the night and faded out at 07UTC. This would mean >>> that there is a potential transatlantic path on 500kHz for 13h a day !!! >>> >>> 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >>> >>> At 17:05 16/11/2009, you wrote: >>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> Good signals from both stations last night. >>>> >>>> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo. >>>> >>> >>> >> > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD032-90d4b0d317d1f5; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:30:46 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD065-90d4b0d317d1f5; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:30:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDHvy-0002yT-He for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:29:26 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDHvy-0002yK-3c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:29:26 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDHvv-0002dg-VF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:29:26 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.200] (rx2-v.twatt.home [192.168.1.200]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA883B50E for ; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:29:20 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4B0D312E.5080203@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:29:18 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01ca6db1$04873810$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> In-Reply-To: <000c01ca6db1$04873810$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Class E pa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) LF, Roger, Mal gave some insightful comments re: Class-E I have also used a class-E amp on 500kHz,and I echo all the comments about careful choice of FET and of the output tuning/loading to get the correct drain waveform. My usual contraption uses a single IRF150 (a TO3 cased 100V/18A SMPSU device) at 100W output. I've never had any trouble with this device expiring, even when running on a 30V PSU, with the peak drain/source volts flirting dangereously close to the 100V device limit. I've run a beacon occasionally overnight, at 100W (200mW ERP from my small vertical) and come down in the morning to find the antenna in disarray, capacity wires flapping in the wind, SWR sky high, and the IRF150 still going strong (if a little warm!) For antenna adjustment I wind the variac down to get 10W output and can happily keep a carrier on while I visit the antenna field and adjust the atu (including disconnecting the feeder to insert a reflected power meter). I did try a pair of IRF640 in parallel in Class-E and acheived 200W. They weren't quite so forgiving though, and expired in a shower of sparks when I accidentally removed the antenna connection.... John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (rly-mf01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.171]) by air-mf01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF013-93d4afb5c2149; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:51:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF013-93d4afb5c2149; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:51:47 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8NtT-0005IC-K2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:50:35 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8NtS-0005I3-Sx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:50:34 +0000 Received: from smtp831.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.189.245]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8NtQ-0008Az-Jy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:50:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 47986 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2009 00:50:26 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=yZ0HYV62eac4y9mS8ZxA1TeKSOT9sdU4HRmRC/Mkej1SgH2gLF/qEoaW6PC18BHWlLLbsAmqt/9QwJCSvBU9s0nUal3akoVzqhRFMEKF/atM41Z0UL/Ciw8Uoeavbv+boauDTmnzaNSHuCsSdBKaQT5Otbzvx+FN7F50xdvaMmI= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@81.131.23.104 with login) by smtp831.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Nov 2009 00:50:25 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: KHdpK2OswBBXlm4uxknbEiS4uYdJoGknHN90u4K8__lTafnafZg- X-YMail-OSG: OZUTy5EVM1nMMjfZgbPSVAGOfOSdO7VPT7Y4anc6BUi0P9MBW0MOKyWFbEs29Fv05FE28NGFCtidlI4AySOKiCURcjIbuVpGwBuXQGccajchG4V5JLEIFLXcC3Oq4vke01sr9leTQFjsdqV60bj.S6FtJAQ5HlsR_cjkRKPGgqbj3KGf9J9hmVPbRUKz3e.c4BguXwx.9U95b.N2hBG7OAYDQGY5ZqxpALhfGoMca6Evjkph3FblMyYcAOJbTvGb1jOlnGG.aMzRu_TrkT5livMIqsRtQ7s7io.WcppSPROz1tG5NcSxO6d9QXd_nAPQlyYCfxIlgje4AXm3hnSu7ipq X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <011201ca6332$23e930c0$0900a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <4AFB477C.5090604@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <001501ca6326$ff28c710$0617aac0@jimdesk> <00f301ca6329$8ba907c0$0900a8c0@lark> <001901ca632a$d3356ab0$0617aac0@jimdesk> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:25:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: RE: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Ah the dreaded laptop. Ok the isolation that is agood idea in that case you must make sure you have some Rf grounds somewhere. Laptops seem to float there is not reason (for the digital engineers who designed them anyway) to put an earth on the metalwork. The RF circuitating in those leads might be inducing hum. It might be worth trying an earth on any suitable but of the laptop metalwork....socket pillars ?? It definitely sounds as though it is hum getting into the PC sound system. Good Luck with it. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Cowburn" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 11:58 PM Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! > The soundcard leads are via an opto-isolator interface and the leads from > the interface to laptop are wound on ferrite cores, approx 8 turns each for > tx and rx. > > I will check the mains psu for the dell d610 laptop as that could be > introducing hum or picking up rf from the tx (IC-735). It might need > ferrites on the leads to and from the SMPSU > > I've just turned "the wick" down on the tx/rx inputs and also the rf gain on > ic 735 till the needle just shifted in case it was being over-driven so I'll > see how that works. > > Not a prob when I was QRPpp but as sigs improve with dark nights I'd noticed > it too > > Thanks to John and others for heads up and suggestions > > With best regards > > > Jim > > > Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia > Sent: 11 November 2009 23:49 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: Re: RE: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! > > Hi Jim what kind of PC are you using. If a desktop are to sure it has the > mains safety earth connected.....I have come across this problem before some > 3 connecter IEC moulded leads with only two wires in them!! If a laptop then > unless you use a radio earth that may all be floating. Sometimes it is > necessary to use an tranformer on the audio leads to and from the PC to gain > isolation from the hum and noise. I use old telephone hybrid transformers > 600ohm to 600 ohm ferrite cored. > > Best Wishes > Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Cowburn" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 11:30 PM > Subject: LF: RE: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! > > > > Hi John > > > > I'll have a look see. I've noticed on strong sigs from me (few and far > > between!) I get multiple decodes +50 and -50. I'm not aware of any > obvious > > mains hum if I monitor my outgoing sigs and all leads are wound on ferrite > > cores, but clearly something is amiss. > > > > I shall look into it and see what I can find > > > > Cheers for the heads up > > > > With best regards > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > Dr. James Cowburn > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John P-G > > Sent: 11 November 2009 23:24 > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: LF: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! > > > > Jim. LF > > > > It looks like G7NKS has a 50/100Hz problem on the audio - both in TX and > > RX directions - there are up to 3 decodes by Jim of a single station (eg > > G3YXM), spaced by 50 & 100Hz and I see also that M0BMU is also reporting > > multiple decodes of G7NKS with the same 50/100Hz spacing. > > > > Jim, have you some mains hum affecting the audio in/out of the PC? > > > > Cheers, > > > > John > > GM4SLV > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de05.mx.aol.com (rly-de05.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.141]) by air-de06.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDE063-4d54b0d7b3127f; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:45:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE052-4d54b0d7b3127f; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:45:07 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDMqW-0006cv-JO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:44:08 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDMqW-0006cm-5r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:44:08 +0000 Received: from out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.239]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDMqU-0005Cp-0s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:44:08 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArcFAPsJDUtOlrU4/2dsb2JhbACCJiuLPgbHfYQyBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,287,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="120004491" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([78.150.181.56]) by out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 25 Nov 2009 18:43:57 +0000 Message-ID: <003201ca6dff$3d5020f0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:43:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: mf acty Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002F_01CA6DFF.3CDFFA00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01CA6DFF.3CDFFA00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable EI6IZ now active on 500. Good sig in Scarboro 579. Just had a CW QSO. de mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01CA6DFF.3CDFFA00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
EI6IZ now active on 500. Good sig in= Scarboro 579.=20 Just had a CW QSO.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_002F_01CA6DFF.3CDFFA00-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df12.mx.aol.com (rly-df12.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.25]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF061-5994afad9f037f; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:36:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF128-5994afad9f037f; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:36:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8FEF-000374-U0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:35:27 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8FEF-00036v-Di for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:35:27 +0000 Received: from smtp820.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.189.247]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8FDX-0006fE-DX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:34:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 46710 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2009 15:35:20 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=KCeemzDXrSPr0jtwPow/9ozET6DmDod+lXaPaIGTV3S2iwJ1+e0a/IRHkBfSp4Qh+3iTxRa6SzMM7yMasLEChOXVJKPJc83lC9fe+Pi9h8HRuVaNDR3ypASvPsnRGAoIOBBB4zVWe1+CtIteKSW8oWKIbJDoscuaMAcD4csFDfs= ; Received: from unknown (HELO DennisPC) (dennis.easterling@86.142.159.245 with login) by smtp820.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Nov 2009 15:35:19 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: H_MJu2qswBDkdHeCAZfwexko6VNOiMP5URzYEvz3WrE5v1grQm6fnvJecjM9 X-YMail-OSG: 5uElZrIVM1nwYdQ6oro88ubOI.Dmt4LmTBJxHjnpbhGuJRLiyxvYJOsvLsl_sh1aD17RpcK2Sg2_KIOMUnbdE3RpT9hlbymf9lUBazEdyPTYQWMJuo4jko9j3N8SWR8ONg._akt1vUrtR4m_WS.GwzkYZZjBzmnMvkgEHWklm6jhvSzL2eMm697MXDPD8l4nLIyv14_77Rj8G_ICUbZEUKiVmJOB2Neb0M8kvuUVkwPeYwquh0z.T72u0E_rz0RFw60kIkjOVPCB8i0juplYFCwYqiUctM9SyzNK X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <0FBBF9B8F2964A18AC8D2E6AD58EFBF4@DennisPC> From: "DENNIS EASTERLING" To: References: <112811.74996.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com><001b01ca6225$fcddd970$0617aac0@jimdesk> <20091110192952.h8jck4a5wkwgg0s4@webmail6.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20091110192952.h8jck4a5wkwgg0s4@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:35:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Rik I really did open a can of worms, least said now soonest mended hi. Thanks for the offer of crystals but I can manage ok. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 6:29 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Hi Dennis, WSPR outside the 504.000 - 503.800 segment makes little sense, so a possible QSY can be only 100 Hz or so. But what xtal frequencies do you need to get away from the top end of the band? If you let me know I'll have a look in my xtal-box and if I find some you can use I will be happy to send them to you. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting DENNIS EASTERLING : > Hi Jim > > I was speaking figuratively as you are so near and on my xtl frequency. > My comment was directed at Chris' statment in email subject1000 QSOs, > who also suffers and others who have complained about beacons in > general. In fact the band is often dead for hours on end and it is nice > to find any signal, beacon or QSO, especially when testing. My point is > that is there should be room for both beacons and QSOs, then follows a > suggestion that LFrs may like to come to some agreement about reserving > a section for each mode. > > Hoping I did not offend, 73 Dennis M0JXM > ----- Original Message ----- > From: James Cowburn > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 4:51 PM > Subject: LF: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO > > Hi Dennis > > I did not realize I was causing you QRM. A quick e-mail would have > alerted me to it, rather than me being a “painâ€. I’m happy to work out > a compromise where we operate at separate times or if you suggest a > different frequency for me to work on. Just drop me a line with your > ideas on this. > > With best regards > > > Jim > > > Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS > ________________________________ > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of DENNIS > EASTERLING > Sent: 10 November 2009 16:13 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO > > Congratulations Chris. > > Most wspr stations seem to congregate at the top end of the band and are > not too much trouble. Jim G7NKS is the biggest pain as he sits on my > xtl frequency and is so close. Maybe a compromise would be for people > using beacons to keep to one segment of the band (hopefully not 502.2 > kHz -hee) > > 73 Dennis M0JXM > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Chris Osborn > To: LF Group > Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 6:03 PM > Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO > > LF > > It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m. > This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 600m / > 80m. > > Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and > EI0CF - No. 998. > > QSO break-down according to mode: 928 CW, 34 RTTY and 5 QRSS > > 600m STATIONS > > My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many > of these go back to the start of the UK 600m allocation in March 2007. > Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding > beacons). > Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of > again: G3KZU, G3YHV . . . > Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT: G3UNT, > G3VTT, G4GDR. . . > > MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED > > With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the same > stations many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of my total > contacts. > My most frequently worked stations are: > > GW3UEP - 120 G3KEV - 102 M0FMT - 90 G3ZWH - 80 (alas now > SK) > G3DXZ - 67 G4GDR - 60 EI0CF/ GI4DPE - 51 M0JXM - 48 > G3UNT - 45 G3VTT - 38 > > CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS > > There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a > cross-band QSO: > DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . . > > and our few EU MF friends are still active: > ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . . > > WSPR ON 600m > > I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for the > WSPR mode was never achieved for hand sent Morse (CW), which after all > is the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF marine > band. > If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stations > operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band then I > guess it may be time for me to QSY. > > 73 Chris G3XIZ > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD012-90c4af56f2a36f; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:59:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD064-90c4af56f2a36f; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:59:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6ks2-0000YQ-46 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:58:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6ks1-0000YH-NE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:58:21 +0000 Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com ([205.188.91.97]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6krv-0000xg-Sf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:58:21 +0000 Received: from imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (imo-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.138]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nA7Cw0Fb021855 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 07:58:00 -0500 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id l.c25.68b9f122 (14502) for ; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 07:57:56 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 07:57:56 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: F4DTL@aol.com X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: tnx QSO OE5ODL - DD7PC, QRSS +/-137.705KHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1257598676" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1257598676 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Hello Marco,how are you ? =20 73 de F4DTL Nicolas =20 Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 07/11/2009 13:35:49 Paris, Madrid, =20 marco.scholz@citi.com a =E9crit : Hello Ossy, many thanks again for fb random QSO an hour ago. Very relaxed QSO with your OOO signal. Conditions not perfect due some light rain this morning. vy73 Marco DD7PC, JN49ax -------------------------------1257598676 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= FONT id=3Drole_document color=3D#000000 size=3D2 face=3DArial>
Hello Marco,how are you ?
 
73 de F4DTL Nicolas
 
Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 07/11/2009 13:35:49 Paris, Madrid,=20 marco.scholz@citi.com a =E9crit :
H= ello=20 Ossy,
many thanks again for fb random QSO an hour ago.
Very relaxe= d QSO=20 with your OOO signal.
Conditions not perfect due some light rain this= =20 morning.

vy73
Marco
DD7PC, JN49ax

 
 

 

-------------------------------1257598676-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (rly-dg10.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.94]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG071-5fa4af9f3d217e; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:14:46 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG105-5fa4af9f3d217e; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:14:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7ztg-0000tv-Hu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:13:12 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7ztf-0000tm-SJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:13:11 +0000 Received: from ipmail03.adl6.internode.on.net ([203.16.214.141]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7ztc-0006BU-NX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:13:11 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArAFAA6C+UqWZXoy/2dsb2JhbACCIy6CIYVtgy0Gv0CRK4NqVAQ Received: from ppp122-50.static.internode.on.net (HELO HPt680a) ([150.101.122.50]) by ipmail03.adl6.internode.on.net with SMTP; 11 Nov 2009 09:42:57 +1030 Message-ID: <1642D8D498F44022BC9CAC72278574E8@HPt680a> From: "VK2ZTO" To: References: <773621.85981.qm@web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:11:18 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: CW and WSPR... Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003A_01CA62B7.4FA808B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01CA62B7.4FA808B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oh dear - to mangle an Irving Berlin composition title "The Song Is En= ded (But The Melody Lingers On)... (or should that be "The Malady Li= ngers On"). Personally, I fail to find any technical training or learning that cou= ld be gained from observing this CW political debate ad nauseam... So it is time to exercise my democratic right to unsubscribe and check= back in another year to see if things have moved on.... Bye Bye ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01CA62B7.4FA808B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Oh dear - to mangle an Irving Berlin= composition=20 title "The Song Is Ended (But The Melody Lingers On)...   (o= r should=20 that be "The Malady Lingers On").
 
Personally, I fail to find any techni= cal training=20 or learning that could be gained from observing this CW political= debate ad=20 nauseam...
 
So it is time to exercise my democrat= ic=20 right to unsubscribe and check back in another year to see if thi= ngs have=20 moved on....
 
Bye Bye
------=_NextPart_000_003A_01CA62B7.4FA808B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME032-9d94afd745e28b; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:59:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME095-9d94afd745e28b; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:59:44 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8xc5-0002uH-Jr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:59:01 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8xc5-0002u8-4Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:59:01 +0000 Received: from mail-gx0-f221.google.com ([209.85.217.221]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8xc3-0005uS-08 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:59:01 +0000 Received: by gxk21 with SMTP id 21so3348575gxk.10 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:58:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=V50aHxrTlQ3x8t5/ggQ6vyrW/qio/jDPJ1ECf+tKbzA=; b=tIio8JC1s2m4lXbnEl5/0t6XKHbYZL9cJkSxUSyiQAOzLLQnm4yrqHzNyRK8lBUL+a rMlV5UOCUgu0Jjd/xSHnJeF4TgFbK2aUaWPrXzM9i48VqOeIRZhMhiDW3inQSkiMdufp P5ppeZUzgiNzDjyUV6fXhYZdgkb6XPJzDvnY8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Q6yxu6YTVcpcr5b0oOly5yDrhk74NY9+R4WsBoMVDKLrfaut25xOw7rWAYtQl7lwmS upBPyzwsIk9fE9q+wwQCcV3H/CDcnnLkfFXwuWcdlmIwkQOXXyLWDjaJxTq61BUzZGq+ NVm1NHT3Fdp8DUFJPpDzpeaVsZ4YAg0upQiWw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.38.4 with SMTP id l4mr7969789ybl.340.1258124332358; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:58:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4AFD6D5F.3020302@telus.net> References: <2EB9AB3966984B91BB0C369B32CF12FC@AGB> <4AFCC936.9060800@telus.net> <4AFD125A.3060402@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <4AFD6D5F.3020302@telus.net> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:58:52 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70911130658h5a32b7a5o731ad8126b569c37@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d277.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Scott, Graham, John P-G, > VX is in developmental service (same idea as US stations) I would like to clarify the situation with regard to US Experimental licenses and their ability to communicate with other classes of license. As a matter of course Experimental stations are permitted to communicate only with other Experimental stations but exceptions can be granted on a case by case basis. For the Experimental licenses for which I filed the application myself (eg. WD2XGJ, WE2XEB, and WE2XGR) I put a clause in the application requesting permission to communicate with foreign amateurs. When the licenses issued they all contain the statement: "the licensee hereof is hereby authorized to use and operate the radio transmitting facilities hereinafter described for radio communications in accordance with the program of experimentation described by the licensee in its application for license." Since part of my program of experimentation as described in the application for the license was "communication with foreign amateurs" I believe that I covered that base. Certain other US Experimental licenses do not have the ability to communicate with amateurs in their application (in one case that I know of the FCC questioned a similar request causing the applicant dropped the request). The bottom line is that it depends on the specific license, I can only speak directly for WD2XGJ, WE2XEB, and WE2XGR but I believe that some other US Experimental licenses also have the ability to QSO with amateurs. I know that the WD2XSH stations DO NOT have the ability to QSO with amateurs. -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Scott Tilley wrote: > Hi John > > VX is in developmental service (same idea as US stations), EI in amateur > service... Like positive and negative antimatter they don't mix. > > 73 Scott > > > John P-G wrote: >> >> Scott Tilley wrote: >>> >>> Hi Graham >>> >>> All Canadian 600m stations are operating under COMMERCIAL Developmental >>> Licenses and are not able to communicate with the Amateur Service. >> >> So VX9MRC shouldn't be having regular CW QSOs with EI0CF? >> >> Still confused.... >> >> John >> GM4SLV >> >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc02.mx.aol.com (rly-mc02.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.86]) by air-mc04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC041-d5c4b0874c6282; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:16:33 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC024-d5c4b0874c6282; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:16:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBzAo-0004BF-58 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:15:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBzAn-0004B6-JM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:15:21 +0000 Received: from mx71.mail.ru ([94.100.176.85]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBzAm-0002ux-Uf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:15:21 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=27017 helo=EFREMOV) by mx71.mail.ru with asmtp id 1NBzAg-000BZM-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:15:14 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <004001ca6b00$71a63350$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: References: <39accf6e.491c4506.4b085f3c.33726@go2.pl Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:14:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: SP2KDS 137kHz Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Marcin, The signal is audible!! S1-2 at 23.10 73 Andrey Dear LF, SP2KDS calling CQ now... 137,695kHz QRSS 3 73! Marcin SQ2BXI From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA042-a804af49102e1; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:11:47 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA078-a804af49102e1; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:11:31 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6W4p-0006eZ-Fe for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:10:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6W4p-0006eQ-0m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:10:35 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6W3g-0000Uq-I3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:09:26 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so1667038bwz.4 for ; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:10:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=bwI4ciIhWA7UpitlQV9UcusgOgF5RiXyrNxYWDa2ai0=; b=eUw9veWlnM3t7eHPhm02ZHPHWpd3X8/JYUIFN8mrbI8ODLW5zWY4QisCdeochEz7hV 4VS3e0S8BiZXtvilCiCJyszvyfvaPftM1tMXHyxk9k8nE22cRLdNtG3aMSRSV4kIZhlo 41Dhl+u4M1DuhpVaEy/CBvvlIAVNvtzBKPkBI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=HKH1fO3R+RHi2e+2AHqbYVSytoIhBibPq6qPu2LWPFlXzsK2dGVT4e9bjCZZjRlhZR YyNwFog/jXKr4SCXmFm8alLa9V7wUDdiYpx8FhbhnCLZzAbwlLKYO5ZNQ83mx6zcbD22 REjOy+M+b03LE67jf6xat+DMcvNltolZJQLdM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.138.6 with SMTP id n6mr501536hbn.77.1257541826591; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:10:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9afca2640911061256r19dd6e30g5b4534a8b1c63a8f@mail.gmail.com> References: <9afca2640911060845r17eb75daracad4f874c3a1c9c@mail.gmail.com> <4AF487B6.4090504@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <9afca2640911061256r19dd6e30g5b4534a8b1c63a8f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 21:10:26 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: G3XBM: 500kHz ERP increased by 6dB - WSPR reports please Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f6db16dd3b6e0477ba45b0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d250.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001485f6db16dd3b6e0477ba45b0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Does anyone know an Excel route so that when I copy and paste from the WSPR database, the date and time field can be separated. All the other fields copy uniquely into their own columns, but that most important one comes in as a single column of text that needs string manipulation to spilt out. Very annoying! Andy www.g4jnt.com this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny state 2009/11/6 Roger Lapthorn > Yes, I have this data via the WSPR database (selecting > G3XBM/GM4SLV/forever/250spots). Definitely better than ever before. Will > leave it overnight to seewho else finds me. > > Thanks again John > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > 2009/11/6 John P-G > > >> >> Roger Lapthorn wrote: >> >>> *Please listen for me on 500kHz WSPR* and let me know if I am now >>> stronger >>> than before. >>> >> >> Roger, >> >> 1st period decoded at -21dB >> >> Have you a record (mental or otherwise) of the normal spread of s/n >> figures that I've recorded for you in the past? I'll leave the RX system >> running overnight so you can gather some data to compare your new antenna >> with the previous incarnation. >> >> Cheers, >> >> John >> GM4SLV >> >> > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > --001485f6db16dd3b6e0477ba45b0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Does anyone know an Excel=A0route so that when I copy and paste from= the WSPR database, the date and time field can be separated.=A0=A0 All th= e other fields copy uniquely into their own columns, but that most importa= nt one comes in as a single column of text =A0that needs string manipulati= on to spilt out.
=A0
Very annoying!
=A0

Andy
www.g4jnt.= com

this email has been scanned for political correctness by th= e nanny state


2009/11/6 Roger Lapthorn <= rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>=
Yes, I have this data via the= WSPR database (selecting G3XBM/GM4SLV/forever/250spots). Definitely bette= r than ever before. Will leave it overnight to seewho else finds me.

Thanks again John

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/11/6 John P-G <gm4slv@sighth= ound.demon.co.uk>=20



Roger Lap= thorn wrote:
*Please listen fo= r me on 500kHz WSPR* and let me know if I am now stronger
than before.<= br>

Roger,

1st period decoded at -21dB

Have you= a record (mental or otherwise) of the normal spread of s/n figures that= I've recorded for you in the past? I'll leave the RX system runni= ng overnight so you can gather some data to compare your new antenna with= the previous incarnation.

Cheers,

John
GM4SLV




--
-------------------= ------------------------------------------
http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.= uk
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088

--001485f6db16dd3b6e0477ba45b0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME052-9d54b08410a3cb; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:35:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME091-9d54b08410a3cb; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:35:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBvjH-0000Xs-6U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:34:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBvjG-0000Xj-RO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:34:42 +0000 Received: from out1.ip02ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.238]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBvjG-0001Xw-8o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:34:42 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtMEAO/PB0tZ8f80/2dsb2JhbACCJSuGS4RtBsVOhDwE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,264,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="118203524" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([89.241.255.52]) by out1.ip02ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 21 Nov 2009 19:34:36 +0000 Message-ID: <009b01ca6ae1$a841c970$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:34:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: ru6la Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0098_01CA6AE1.A7E99750" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0098_01CA6AE1.A7E99750 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nw 579 audible big signal. Tnx for earlier qso de mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0098_01CA6AE1.A7E99750 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Nw 579 audible big signal. Tnx for ea= rlier=20 qso
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------=_NextPart_000_0098_01CA6AE1.A7E99750-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (rly-mf08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.178]) by air-mf03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF032-9774af7eddce1; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:24:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF085-9774af7eddce1; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:24:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7RNI-0003Ps-9i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:21:28 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7RNH-0003Pj-ON for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:21:27 +0000 Received: from smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.25]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7RNF-0001kk-Is for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:21:27 +0000 Received: from webmail.xs4all.nl (dovemail12.xs4all.nl [194.109.26.14]) by smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nA9ALJ99089141 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 11:21:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roelof@ndb.demon.nl) Received: from 82.92.124.189 (SquirrelMail authenticated user pa0rdt) by webmail.xs4all.nl with HTTP; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 11:21:24 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <007a01ca60eb$9cb96fe0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> References: <007a01ca60eb$9cb96fe0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 11:21:24 +0100 From: "Roelof Bakker" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.18 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500 kHz TA report Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Jay, Regarding conditions, these have been really awesome the last few days. I have logged my first NDB from BC (ICW-525, Nenada near Fairbanks) and also heard 20 new Canadian NDB's since the start of September. I am talking abour aural copy. There is an opening for Alaska to my location in the Netherlands around 06:00 UTC. So the 500 kHz band should be good as well. 73, Roelof, pa0rdt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME024-9cd4b08379a141; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:55:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME081-9cd4b08379a141; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:55:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBv6O-0008Gh-Gb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:54:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBv6O-0008GY-3f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:54:32 +0000 Received: from out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.237]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBv6M-0002Mj-4M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:54:32 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAI7GB0tcGmCC/2dsb2JhbACERL8fkCGBMII4VAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,264,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="113034986" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.26.96.130]) by out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 21 Nov 2009 18:54:23 +0000 Message-ID: <008401ca6adc$09a702d0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <4B07ABA4.4060102@online.fr> <4B082AE0.80607@usa.net> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:54:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Alberto has SPOKEN !! take notice ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alberto di Bene" To: Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 6:01 PM Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO > Of course it’s a new and exciting technology, but I doubt that it is on one >> and the same level with a regular exchange and therefore should not be >> considered equally verifying a valid contact. Shades of the recurring and silly debates that every now and then happen on the Moon-net reflector... 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc11.mx.aol.com (rly-mc11.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.95]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC021-da74b01b4e63a8; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:24:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC117-da74b01b4e63a8; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:24:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA86J-0008GY-Pd for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:23:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA86J-0008GP-B7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:23:03 +0000 Received: from smtp818.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.18]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA86I-0002hh-Fm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:23:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 71388 invoked from network); 16 Nov 2009 20:22:56 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=whPSxUtrV3Bjd1ZbFmMjzaL30TnBQL4chRKHUEHrCN8hPhBzfqqHtR3irsd0pOgffTSwr1Shl4po9Fr+bn5hcSD7AYZ/FI0aU+TRl/Xrv+86YtW+MDEOoPGXObtNSgVb5S+bZYZCsMQReSovflFyaUk9hE5Z2asZcTt6scdFE18= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@213.122.7.126 with login) by smtp818.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Nov 2009 20:22:55 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: KHdpK2OswBBXlm4uxknbEiS4uYdJoGknHN90u4K8__lTafnafZg- X-YMail-OSG: tg9KkGEVM1lvPP3Pw.CciqwijFRBBQ0naE4sOidnMlmOKGkuJvNgUpT4Orhgl0qtV4yHth1jccwMIRmESn89BUikYWlIPzuKqt8b.8QaSPY7ykRamGslyutMmdWS9cQ2iGnQLduixbq1F7QY0vqxMFoVDghEZ_nwqPOdjkrbcn3v_1zwq4ZY9TcevcSxyO7f4JWEtWh2nIY7bJtw91aRFse_CEA23IfMhj4gwjCH1v.S4b2g_XzfNnO6tAwa7plhBznJyhqu8MoZWiqcOqzcT_1d2a.wvGa0YvMltzqHmx8ODUGxOK4TWT3UQ_VflLUJTqvnnTR7FdLnpfSbltz5kdytrz2.ytA- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <002e01ca66fa$9edc5f20$0900a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <626551.33117.qm@web63607.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:21:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: LF: Re: LEONIDS and propagation Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Andy observations over several months by some of the VLF group suggest that whilst there are some radio effects from meteors at low frequencies they are very weak and difficult to be sure of. In general there is no known mechanism for extensive ionisation which can be detected at LF.......however that doesnt say you shouldn't listen for it !!.....just dont be surprised if it is a bit "underwhelming" :-)) The best bet for observing effects are are reflections between 20 and 150Mhz. In Europe, the Graves satellite radar on 140.050 is a good way to watch pings with something like Argo or Spectrum Lab. I guess you could then try to correlate those with LF effects. See a recent paper on Renato's web site www.vlf.it Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy - KU4XR" To: ; ; "Part-15 Yahoo" ; "600 meter group" Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 5:29 PM Subject: LF: LEONIDS and propagation > ******* Quoting from SPACE.com ******* > > > Circle Nov. 17 on your calendar, for early that morning a moderate to possibly very strong showing of annual Leonid meteor shower is likely. > > The very strong display will favor those living across most of central and eastern Asia. In this region, meteor rates might briefly rise to a few hundred per hour (the time frame for the most intense activity is anticipated sometime around 21:40 GMT). > > A far more modest, but still potentially enjoyable display of a few dozen Leonid meteors per hour is expected to favor North America. In the United States and Canada, eastern observers will be particularly well-positioned for maximum activity, expected sometime between 3:30 and 5:30 a.m. EST, when the radiant of the Leonid shower will be well up in the dark southeastern sky. > > Hello all: > > Probable " D " and " E " layer ionization during meteor shower peak. > interesting propagation could take place at MF anf LF. The effectes will be seen into the VLF regions for those who monitor utility stations. > This would be a good opportunity for GRABBERS to be online if possible, and for WSPR stations to transmit, the WSPR spot database will show the results of any out of the ordinary propagational enhancements, as well as the GRABBERS. > QRSS signals will show the effects of the ionization trails in various > regions as they show up on various grabbers, or by direct captures of > a signal. > WSPR and WOLF modes will possibly show any changes in signals thru > the received data at the monitoring station. > Sporadic enhancement and reception of NDB's may be noticable. > > Good luck to all those who will be trying the PING mode, may you have > lots of QSO's. > > 73 all :::: > > > > Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN. > LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 185.29866 KHz ( QRSS-60 ) > Coordinates: N: 35* 43' 54" - W: 84* 3' 16" > http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD074-b5d4aff3f3618; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:37:43 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD017-b5d4aff3f3618; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:37:28 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9SAO-00028Z-LC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:36:28 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9SAO-00028Q-3h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:36:28 +0000 Received: from mcgi65.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.199]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9SAM-0006t9-4r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:36:28 +0000 Received: from mcgi65.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi65.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931A35C1F for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 02:36:20 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [81.195.15.221] by mcgi65.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Sun, 15 Nov 2009 02:36:15 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 02:36:15 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <287859382.1258239176.158750212.87677@mcgi38.rambler.ru> <4AFF3A89.50604@ukonline.co.uk> Message-Id: <773823877.1258241775.51611560.13185@mcgi65.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Grabber is ON Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 G/E Peter! * Peter Dodd [Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:17:29 +0000]: > Hi Roman. > > 501.05kHz TNX! QSY below. > Peter, G3LDO > > > > My grabber started on up to finished your activity. > > qrss.nm.ru -> grabber. > > Looking to 501.2-501.36 and 502.0 > > Whats a real freq, Peter? > > > > -- > > Roman RW3ADB. > > > > > > > > -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC084-b214aeecf385c; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 07:23:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC055-b214aeecf385c; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 07:23:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N4vv2-000762-TN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:21:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N4vv2-00075t-60 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:21:56 +0000 Received: from out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.237]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N4vv0-0006e2-9Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:21:56 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoEFAPNd7kpZ8axa/2dsb2JhbACCKSqLHQbMZYQ5BA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,666,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="68057544" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([89.241.172.90]) by out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 02 Nov 2009 12:21:21 +0000 Message-ID: <000e01ca5bb6$fc24dc10$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:21:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: test Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA5BB6.FBE932A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA5BB6.FBE932A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable test ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA5BB6.FBE932A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA5BB6.FBE932A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc11.mx.aol.com (rly-mc11.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.95]) by air-mc04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC041-da54af734b1399; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:14:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC115-da54af734b1399; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:14:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7F4m-00017a-89 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:13:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7F4l-00017R-LA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:13:31 +0000 Received: from mout5.freenet.de ([195.4.92.95]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7F3o-0002YT-Oq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:12:33 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.18] (helo=8.mx.freenet.de) by mout5.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #92) id 1N7F4i-0001FA-RR; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:13:28 +0100 Received: from w1761.w.pppool.de ([89.58.23.97]:3108 helo=2a2d7ed321c6425) by 8.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #94) id 1N7F4h-0006Af-Rj; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:13:28 +0100 From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" To: Cc: "'Chris Osborn'" References: <112811.74996.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:13:26 +0100 Message-ID: <6D45B1BD142A4CAFA108B09E30ABA30D@2a2d7ed321c6425> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: <112811.74996.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcpgnhSWRN+SqnimTZ2ESmQfsIMY1AAGL3Ow X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: AW: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0033_01CA60C0.B26E2270" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING, LINES_OF_YELLING_2 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01CA60C0.B26E2270 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Chris, Please receive also my congratulation to your 1000th MF QSO. Thanks also for all interesting information. Well actually, MF is a vy interesting band and I would be happy if we could also join this great band in DL.. But nevertheless, cross-band QSO's are also very pleasant. And each mode has its own interesting aspect for the different tasks in monitoring band conditions. Wishing you a lot of more pleasant MF QSO in the future and I am looking forward to our next cross band contact! vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI ======= _____ Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Chris Osborn Gesendet: Sonntag, 8. November 2009 19:03 An: LF Group Betreff: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO LF It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m. This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 600m / 80m. Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0CF - No. 998. QSO break-down according to mode: 928 CW, 34 RTTY and 5 QRSS 600m STATIONS My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many of these go back to the start of the UK 600m allocation in March 2007. Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding beacons). Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of again: G3KZU, G3YHV . . . Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT: G3UNT, G3VTT, G4GDR. . . MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the same stations many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of my total contacts. My most frequently worked stations are: GW3UEP - 120 G3KEV - 102 M0FMT - 90 G3ZWH - 80 (alas now SK) G3DXZ - 67 G4GDR - 60 EI0CF/ GI4DPE - 51 M0JXM - 48 G3UNT - 45 G3VTT - 38 CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a cross-band QSO: DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . . and our few EU MF friends are still active: ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . . WSPR ON 600m I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for the WSPR mode was never achieved for hand sent Morse (CW), which after all is the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF marine band. If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stations operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band then I guess it may be time for me to QSY. 73 Chris G3XIZ ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01CA60C0.B26E2270 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello Chris,

 

Please receive also my congratulation to= your 1000th  MF QSO.

Thanks also for all interesting informati= on. Well actually, MF is a vy interesting band and I would be happy if we could also join this gr= eat band in DL….

But nevertheless, cross-band QSO’s= are also very pleasant.

And each mode has its own interesting asp= ect for the different tasks in monitoring band conditions.

Wishing you a lot of more pleasant MF QSO= in the future and I am looking forward to our next cross band contact!

 

vy 73 de Gerhard  /  DK6NI=

 

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Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org [mailto:owner-r= sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Chris Osborn
Gesendet: Sonntag, 8.= November 2009 19:03
An: LF Group
Betreff: LF: G3XIZ - 10= 00 th MF QSO

 

LF

It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m.<= br> This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 600m= / 80m.

Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0C= F - No. 998.

QSO break-down according to mode:     928 CW,  34 RTTY  and   5 QRSS

600m STATIONS

My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many of these go back to= the start of the UK  600m allocation in March 2007.
Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding= beacons).
Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of again:  G3KZU, G3YHV . . .
Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT:  G3U= NT, G3VTT, G4GDR. . .

MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED

With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the same= stations many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of my total contact= s.
My most frequently worked stations are:

GW3UEP - 120     G3KEV - 102   &nbs= p;  M0FMT - 90     G3ZWH  -  80  (alas= now SK)
G3DXZ    -   67     G4GDR -   60      EI0CF/ GI4DPE  -&n= bsp; 51   M0JXM - 48
G3UNT    -   45     G3VTT=   -   38

CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS

There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a cros= s-band QSO:
DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . .

and our few EU MF friends are still active:
ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . .

WSPR ON 600m

I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for the= WSPR mode was never achieved for  hand sent Morse (CW), which after all is= the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF marine band.
If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stations= operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band then I guess= it may be time for me to QSY.

73 Chris G3XIZ






 

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2009-11-18 17:48   T61AA   0.503929   -13   1   MM36nq   10   S51CN   JN65tm   4503   300 
 
Now thats something  you  dont  normally  see= !
 
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------=_NextPart_000_001F_01CA6878.6E1CDCF0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (rly-dc02.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.31]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDC013-b084b0c2f4719e; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:09:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC024-b084b0c2f4719e; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:08:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ND0kC-0006VH-3k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:08:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ND0kB-0006V8-Nn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:08:07 +0000 Received: from mail-yx0-f203.google.com ([209.85.210.203]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ND0kA-0003GW-PD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:08:07 +0000 Received: by yxe41 with SMTP id 41so15918938yxe.30 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:08:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5+d120bCfw5yq38rqa5Vw8ytnsx0kcHvnz+3gJhC33I=; b=gRmue4j0H1utM4mgAN4OtowClZgQ5zxi4PIChM0i26jtMCnSkNn+CC1HIOwFIeXYd5 iKgEToUgWO2B3tlsfZUQPpNIKuCkTGRsux0Ney1GvlWStCc4O/kpCMTNiW/IjX5q9FlA LC+plyM3yncsUD+UmzvtSWGMeZ5zmhwfJupKo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dW/o2b0mcHvaFYgEOVBQ7vRFk9/+C3P+Y9wDH5MrMwKhTCRxdlDIR6u83/Xlr7rjBQ OZQazxrsYNX+ZNah40UQshoYKX/7KJBrIKzxakeQde1ZsxofNkSqPQ3D6wu6E5MJUCSu zKMVy8zHP/t3mg6B6fuAYXJTBYS3jTNSR86EQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.210.5 with SMTP id i5mr11803674ybg.174.1259089679915; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:07:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <014501ca6d37$2f8821c0$0517aac0@desktop> References: <000e01ca6d27$45eaac40$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <014501ca6d37$2f8821c0$0517aac0@desktop> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:07:59 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70911241107v4b948ac6h9aa5a080f2cee158@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: RE: SITOR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d240.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) James, Relax ! They are looking for a DECODE (not TRANSMIT) program! Most likely to be used for looking at NAVTEX transmissions. --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 1:51 PM, James Cowburn = wrote: > IS THIS NOT TANTAMOUNT TO ENCOURAGING WOULD-BE UNATTENDED BEACON APPLIAN= CE > OPERATORS TO JAM THE BANDS WITH DATA?? > > > > Jim J=A0 (tongue firmly in cheek!) > > > > ________________________________ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton > Sent: 24 November 2009 16:58 > To: rsgb > Subject: LF: SITOR > > > > Looking for a good decode prog. > > mal/g3kev > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de04.mx.aol.com (rly-de04.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.140]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE053-4ca4b057b053f; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:06:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE041-4ca4b057b053f; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:06:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBART-00019h-Id for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:05:11 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBART-00019Y-4S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:05:11 +0000 Received: from mx34.mail.ru ([94.100.176.48]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBARR-0003QQ-9N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:05:11 +0000 Received: from [94.75.134.183] (port=57968 helo=[192.168.1.4]) by mx34.mail.ru with asmtp id 1NBARL-00035a-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:05:03 +0300 Message-ID: <4B057AA8.1060000@mail.ru> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:04:40 +0300 From: Dmitry User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 SeaMonkey/1.1.18 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <9afca2640911170243q3b4e2c95kb2668b937e727070@mail.gmail.com> <4B02BF9E.5020701@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <9afca2640911170734u7ebc121em5be88d61d99be249@mail.gmail.com> <20091117160109.6F44BF3863@smtps02.kuleuven.be> <4B02E76F.60609@mail.ru> <4B038095.9050807@telus.net> In-Reply-To: <4B038095.9050807@telus.net> X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: UA0AET Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Scott > Hi Dmitry > > Could UA0AET try at a time of mutual darkness between UA0 and VE7? UA0AET ready to beacon for VE, JA, VK 21 nov 13:00-15:00 UTC and 22 nov 10:00-15:00 UTC dfcw 120 137778.5 Dmitry > > Please relay message. > > 73 Scott > VE7TIL CN89dk > http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/ > > Dmitry wrote: >> Hi LF! >> >> UA0AET on DF6NM and BY3A-KL1X grabbers 137778.6 dfcw120 >> >> Dmitry >> RA3YO >> >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df04.mx.aol.com (rly-df04.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.17]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDF061-5464b13a6f5f7; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 06:05:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF045-5464b13a6f5f7; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 06:05:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NF43G-0005wG-VM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:04:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NF43G-0005w7-H4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:04:18 +0000 Received: from out1.ip05ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.241]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NF43F-0008IR-Tt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:04:18 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjQFAPc0E0tOlAvi/2dsb2JhbACCJiuGToR2Bsc5hDEE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,312,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="126720414" Received: from unknown (HELO your91hoehfy9g) ([78.148.11.226]) by out1.ip05ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 30 Nov 2009 11:04:12 +0000 Message-ID: <002b01ca71ac$daa46180$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:04:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RTTY 500 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0028_01CA71AC.DA664710" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01CA71AC.DA664710 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lots of RTTY QRM last nite on 500. I decoded several stns. G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01CA71AC.DA664710 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Lots of RTTY QRM last nite on 500. I= decoded=20 several stns.
G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_0028_01CA71AC.DA664710-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db01.mx.aol.com (rly-db01.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.76]) by air-db01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB011-aa34b0a890849; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:07:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB011-aa34b0a890849; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:07:22 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCYct-0000a3-HM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:06:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCYct-0000Zu-4N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:06:43 +0000 Received: from mail-yx0-f203.google.com ([209.85.210.203]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCYcs-0002VP-5k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:06:43 +0000 Received: by yxe41 with SMTP id 41so13000572yxe.30 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:06:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=sAUO/9ETKaAQRQeD9eVZ0MVEBG+oXWcX1AW8rCEz5WY=; b=GW9CSPSFLaYUF66JBDXKiLpJXL1uiwe25rTRqwBmX82fz+ri908nAuhRtWURtR8+x1 hXgqez/EptkLW6mIeH+5EXA9r+f4jJ5R/rwhQI2sBJ6y9JTCbxF/fgwcYy48fMc5mgSw uMDLfIAgbiwG9i586h+9wim8vcFR3a/b5147s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cNjOY4Qb1yp7Re5+xI2z1kz0CnYt+ZGRNxU/Xbx3XUtXUASH8tY6NiRPuZpECzjHOi RjRV+0bjA6LN2QSDvAEV+d6+GJTNNErUwKPrlAVUV3moR5NG8M0sZjewLcGnNUQ3pAS/ a/q10oIJfWKjs4nYk1fri2w6yOfMa0OUJZKp0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.10.42 with SMTP id 42mr8538813ybj.115.1258981594533; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:06:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4B0A46C5.20604@online.fr> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:06:34 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70911230506m71866936tb3c59da98c8427be@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: T/A [137 kHz] good conditions ( re also ! ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d266.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Lubos, Jean-Pierre, Thank you for the reports and captures ! FB condx on LF! --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2009/11/23 Lubos OK2BVG : > Hello Jean-Pierre, LF! > You are right, the conditions were SUPER! > I also saw the stations, you wrote about them. I have never seen all tho= se > stations on the one snapshot before. > > Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS > > ********************* > > >> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:24:37 +0100 >> From: jpm.f1afj@online.fr >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Subject: LF: T/A [137 kHz] good conditions ( re also ! ) >> >> Hello LF, >> >> Good conditions last night on 137 Khz ! >> >> "XKO" (WD2XKO) qrss60 >> "XGJ" (WD2XGJ) qrss60 >> "XES" (WD2XES) dfcw60 >> It is great pleasure of finding the actors of my beginnings LF! >> Miss Joe (NA) and Jay (XES) so that the table is complete! >> Thank you Sirs!!!!. >> >> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj >> >> NB : For information, the captures are always filed here : >> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ > Windows 7: Kter=FD po=E8=EDta=E8 je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD? Dal=B9=ED inf= ormace. --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (rly-dc01.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.30]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC011-afe4b09723e133; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:18:10 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC012-afe4b09723e133; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:17:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCFzs-0003td-9l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:13:12 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCFzp-0003tU-J7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:13:09 +0000 Received: from rekin26.go2.pl ([193.17.41.76]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCFzm-00051c-3H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:13:08 +0000 Received: from rekin26.go2.pl (rekin26.go2.pl [127.0.0.1]) by rekin26.go2.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F4EC35D7B4 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:12:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from unknown (unknown [10.0.0.74]) by rekin26.go2.pl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:12:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from 58-178-124-188.rev.pro-internet.pl [188.124.178.58] by poczta.o2.pl with ESMTP id YKzSvQ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:12:59 +0100 Message-ID: <013a01ca6b97$08717f10$3ab27cbc@niurhaxf0xcqlj> From: "Marcin" To: References: Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:12:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-O2-Trust: 2, 63 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: SP2KDS 22-11.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Henry, LF Very thank for capture. -- Vy 73! Marcin SQ2BXI Hi LF, nice copy SP2KDS, Henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: SP2KDS 22-11.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df01.mx.aol.com (rly-df01.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.14]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF071-5294b03230e1c; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:26:30 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF016-5294b03230e1c; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:26:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAWU9-0006oZ-1Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:25:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAWU8-0006oQ-Lv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:25:16 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAWU8-0002a4-2p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:25:16 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29E4A51C002 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:25:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E1D4F3863 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:25:02 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id 9C49018056; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:25:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from 39.10-180-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (39.10-180-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [91.180.10.39]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:25:01 +0100 Message-ID: <20091117232501.74fl611v28s040ss@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:25:01 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <000501ca67ba$e4817db0$6c01a8c0@DELL4> In-Reply-To: <000501ca67ba$e4817db0$6c01a8c0@DELL4> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 91.180.10.39 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Jay, positive id of "XGR" on 506.515 kHz, "M" report 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting "jrusgrove@comcast.net" : > T/A enthusiasts > > WE2XGR/2 will beacon in QRSS3 mode tonight on 506.5 kHz from ~ 2130 to ~ > 0030 Z. Reports appreciated. > > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db02.mx.aol.com (rly-db02.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.77]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB104-aad4b018cf91a0; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:34:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB023-aad4b018cf91a0; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:33:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA5P2-0006pF-Ai for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:30:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA5P1-0006p6-U4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:30:11 +0000 Received: from web63607.mail.re1.yahoo.com ([69.147.97.77]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA5Ow-0001kg-Kg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:30:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 33621 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Nov 2009 17:29:46 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1258392586; bh=RUqOcx2Ung2IIPArbElS+qIP9kuY+8xGehaLz2bb9mo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pXYM63yXPRjGWZdtcprW/pY0LzlhJpOnwm6mJ7nvoWUJXE34vescTSovogA71+fq28qkqPfi52rxZx+bYGlM0402gHCY0RPsTXgy+GXj96hzMOxl2K3FTXc/iSf5hKb0RtyE0IKYO5TsLP330+NEnVPSZ7e5xNk81wHDIlUnvLY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mNOAKqKQvv5NJIapZk44XNFh2BbOX+kvDdqhexSXNfQg8Z95zMcVas4LrnuvInJdUj/mUdJEQRf4IeTSibClfTZ/b14H8RDIO36caK1FR+vuONq8COqbxuOQDmZyblDpTdCYN6LcVEYMmYgdys2n7+JWOjixmg3aqMAkgLOeAAA=; Message-ID: <626551.33117.qm@web63607.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: hHkwZ64VM1m0wEPRsN5b4.a0LU3hFL1pmhdXLAN3IsDEn0fH3tfe_EDOcsrDGmDSJhZK6QF5NQF25qrSQV648B.i_fMEKyUG7LvUd.W4Iz.hK855XdDckmm5ht7uQTmN8AkKGQFSj0DR0DsHOEACgrMyhUTdlijb9LBqwgbfEXH1tPiKfqE5e23u2D9h1HbvFUyEjankGplAtUiBPKvIjUQUly9AfiOzM3TLiUJXPqKZ8MS2Q5QnKbCbg34q7aNT7KGAp_B_.t9k8P85CjhbzWQXHW2fC_ecUIcD4MH2oXPatj4aVXkYtRDbKDYzb.sY5G68f7FaAlD21pz0IZuyNqmPoaJO1nowaGmztvOJTb1Mw0G0AR2Iuve2bFn8omNI5vaFwsOlkA6eqGpB3tU- Received: from [98.70.124.157] by web63607.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:29:46 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:29:46 -0800 (PST) From: Andy - KU4XR To: lowfer@mailman.qth.net, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, Part-15 Yahoo , 600 meter group MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: LEONIDS and propagation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d226.1 ; domain : yahoo.com DKIM : fail ******* Quoting from SPACE.com ******* Circle Nov. 17 on your calendar, for early that morning a moderate to possibly very strong showing of annual Leonid meteor shower is likely. The very strong display will favor those living across most of central and eastern Asia. In this region, meteor rates might briefly rise to a few hundred per hour (the time frame for the most intense activity is anticipated sometime around 21:40 GMT). A far more modest, but still potentially enjoyable display of a few dozen Leonid meteors per hour is expected to favor North America. In the United States and Canada, eastern observers will be particularly well-positioned for maximum activity, expected sometime between 3:30 and 5:30 a.m. EST, when the radiant of the Leonid shower will be well up in the dark southeastern sky. Hello all: Probable " D " and " E " layer ionization during meteor shower peak. interesting propagation could take place at MF anf LF. The effectes will be seen into the VLF regions for those who monitor utility stations. This would be a good opportunity for GRABBERS to be online if possible, and for WSPR stations to transmit, the WSPR spot database will show the results of any out of the ordinary propagational enhancements, as well as the GRABBERS. QRSS signals will show the effects of the ionization trails in various regions as they show up on various grabbers, or by direct captures of a signal. WSPR and WOLF modes will possibly show any changes in signals thru the received data at the monitoring station. Sporadic enhancement and reception of NDB's may be noticable. Good luck to all those who will be trying the PING mode, may you have lots of QSO's. 73 all :::: Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN. LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 185.29866 KHz ( QRSS-60 ) Coordinates: N: 35* 43' 54" - W: 84* 3' 16" http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (rly-ma07.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.51]) by air-ma08.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMA084-8bc4b13b4282f6; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 07:01:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA076-8bc4b13b4282f6; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 07:01:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NF4vy-0006f1-10 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:00:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NF4vx-0006es-Kn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:00:49 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f215.google.com ([209.85.220.215]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NF4vw-0000HD-Qn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:00:49 +0000 Received: by fxm7 with SMTP id 7so3085375fxm.29 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 04:00:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=XoFkkYouQ7UGaf33z1nyl8eYL5FhnYU3dRxy/dxkYBI=; b=dT0KSPnR19+a1LztJGw6MkXeY36/c+BZUkcSS/IlisByStlKtzumnD9K4F1MCmTQui LxlfKJGNwjB5smrppKpvuhPZ4oFS/ftz8UnKPXeoTxaENhQ8pAoIt4bV0WHksRTn880S qXqs0eLk7X4e5gJqlSM38JMa3Ae/KPCn9xl/E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jkQ4x/Rdojr9NmueF87KDA2JNcSubP+KCQ7/uDF5sUZC2l/AvEpqo+NITnYdiDOShg wcaYf0GEuE0+7aVUqWOOCy/MY3iLsS8t14pCT02XG1Q8NSNDzUSEu1nR1gEyvnDDxpK5 ExkLQOf6SwUzPmGaavzPgHmiUoU9HHlXkCF0c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.182.163 with SMTP id q35mr411690hbg.70.1259582442402; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 04:00:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091130111915.ACBC6F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> References: <002b01ca71ac$daa46180$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> <20091130111915.ACBC6F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:00:42 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RTTY 500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d298.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I've been playing with ' CwGet ' http://www.dxsoft.com/micwget.htm . Its not very good at decoding these pulse-position-width mod ASK signals. There seemed to be millions of them QRMing the HF bands over the weekend. Can anyone recommend a better decoder. Or should we abandon it completelty for PSK31 ;-) Andy www.g4jnt.com This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health and safety police 2009/11/30 Rik Strobbe : > I could copy several RTTY and PS31 stations last night and decoded also= some > CW QRM ;-) > > 73, Rik=A0 ON7YD - OR7T > > At 12:04 30/11/2009, you wrote: > > Lots of RTTY QRM last nite on 500. I decoded several stns. > G3KEV > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df01.mx.aol.com (rly-df01.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.14]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF054-5274b005ade12; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:47:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF014-5274b005ade12; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:47:43 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9l3o-0000yH-TU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:46:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9l3o-0000y8-FK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:46:56 +0000 Received: from mailout10.t-online.de ([194.25.134.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9l3n-0002jX-C9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:46:56 +0000 Received: from fwd07.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.t-online.de with smtp id 1N9l3m-0007lB-00; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:46:54 +0100 Received: from e7010 (VghR9kZCZhpq5E7ViF-3R1pAGVHTBO6glr2ceI3LXhBhG76SP0kkyxiGzo2KeMOZjT@[84.147.204.191]) by fwd07.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1N9l3e-1FbdmS0; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:46:46 +0100 Message-ID: <008d01ca662c$5cfb2ec0$6402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: References: <000a01ca65ec$16f199e0$6402a8c0@e7010> <009d01ca65ff$7cf02820$0201a8c0@Clemens04> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:46:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: VghR9kZCZhpq5E7ViF-3R1pAGVHTBO6glr2ceI3LXhBhG76SP0kkyxiGzo2KeMOZjT X-TOI-MSGID: e6bcc68c-e574-4e3f-8e53-b947f641269e X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: DI2AG WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008A_01CA6634.BE88A840" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_008A_01CA6634.BE88A840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tnx, dr Clemens , for the first and early report today. 73 Walter ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Clemens Paul=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 3:25 PM Subject: LF: Re: DI2AG WSPR Hi Walter, =20 ufb copy: 2009-11-15 14:22 DI2AG 0.503899 +13 0 JN59no 0.5= DL4RAJ JN68kj 185 136 =20 =20 73 Clemens DL4RAJ =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Walter und Marianne Staubach=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 1:06 PM Subject: LF: DI2AG WSPR Dear MF, DI2AG is already on air in WSPR. QRG 505.090KHz, PWR 0.4W= ERP. Duty cycle 33%. The beacon will be busy until tomorrow morning. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF ----------------------------------------------------------------------= ------ Eingehende eMail ist virenfrei. Von AVG =FCberpr=FCft - www.avg.de=20 Version: 9.0.707 / Virendatenbank: 270.14.65/2503 - Ausgabedatum:= 11/14/09 20:42:00=20 ------=_NextPart_000_008A_01CA6634.BE88A840 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tnx, dr Clemens , for the first and= early report=20 today.
73   Walter
 
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Hi Walter,
 
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2009-11-15 14:22   DI2AG   0.503899   +13   0   JN59no   0.5   DL4RAJ   JN68kj   185   136 
 
73
Clemens
DL4RAJ
 
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Sent: Sunday, November 15,= 2009 1:06=20 PM
Subject: LF: DI2AG WSPR

Dear MF,
     &nb= sp; DI2AG is=20 already on air in WSPR. QRG 505.090KHz, PWR 0.4W ERP. Duty cycle= 33%. The=20 beacon will be busy until tomorrow morning.
73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF
 
 


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------=_NextPart_000_008A_01CA6634.BE88A840-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (rly-mf07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.177]) by air-mf02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF021-9714b0ceb861d6; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:32:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF077-9714b0ceb861d6; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:32:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDDGx-0001Mp-Gl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:30:47 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDDGx-0001Mg-5d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:30:47 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDDGv-0000ew-LC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:30:47 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 252034C806E for ; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:30:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27EEB4C8140 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:30:40 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B0CEB2F.8050609@online.fr> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:30:39 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: blacksheep X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: LF T/A [137kHz] WD2XKO , WD2XES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Dex , John , The good conditions are gone down ! but i copy XKO and XES last night 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd03.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDD031-b604b11e0fc318; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:48:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD022-b604b11e0fc318; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:48:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEZp4-0006Ms-B5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:47:38 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEZp3-0006Mj-TF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:47:37 +0000 Received: from lnx503.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de ([130.83.156.232]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEZp3-0002fM-6j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:47:37 +0000 Received: from FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.212.129]) by lnx503.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.14.2/8.14.2/HRZ/PMX) with SMTP id nAT2lZr1018924 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:47:36 +0100 (envelope-from schaefer@hst.tu-darmstadt.de) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de) by FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de with AVK MailGateway; for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:47:35 +0100 Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:47:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AA6A@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> In-Reply-To: <002e01ca7085$f21d05b0$3ab27cbc@ap6fnsa53r3k6h> X-MS-Has-Attach: Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz Thread-Index: Acpwhp0APK5KVm5VSY6MStav0W8ffgAFrekg From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= To: X-AVK-Virus-Check: AVB 19.594;28.11.2009 X-PMX-TU: seen v0.99a by 5.5.8.383112, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2009.11.29.23919 X-PMX-SPAMCHECK: outgoing mail X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: AW: Re: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear Marcin,=20 My /p ground is a copper band of about 20cm x 25m x 1mm (abt 25kg, so no= problem in the wind) With this band, just rolled out within 1...2 Minutes I get a overall loss= resistance of 50...55 Ohms (earth losses, wire losses, coil losses and,= of course, the radiation resistance) ;-) Are you qrv or just receiving until now? We always could try a qso if you= are interested. 73s to all, Stefan/DK7FC -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org] Im Auftrag von Marcin Gesendet: Sonntag, 29. November 2009 00:51 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: Re: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz Dear Stefan, LF Very good copied your signal in Poland. Why use your portable ground system? -- Vy 73! Macin SQ2BXI Dear Lowfers, This is my first mail to the reflector and so i want to say hello to all= :-) It=B4s nice to be able to participate now here although my activity will= stay on the band mostly ;-) If there will be no weather problems this evening I will agn be qrv on 137 in CW (abt 136,8) and/or QRSS3. Since abt 3 weeks I am qrv again. Since I live in a city I have no possibilities to be on LF, even not in RXing (QRM)... Therefore and cause= I like to be in the nature I am now qrv in /p. I use a kite antenna, 100m up (!). This should have a radiation resistance of 0,83 Ohms. My overall resistance is abt 30...55 Ohms, depending on the ground a achieve. So you can imagine abt the ERP. I have a 1KW class E PA that I use with limited power. But The ERP easily reaches the 1W ERP limit, as one can imagine.. My RX is still poor but I am working on a receiving loop. Now, I use the= TX ant for receiving that causes some problems ;-) It would be nice to get some QSOs or even RX-RPRTs tonight. Until now I go= t 2 QSOs in each activity ;-) Best regards, Stefan / DK7FC From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc02.mx.aol.com (rly-mc02.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.86]) by air-mc03.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMC032-d5e4b1396482ff; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 04:54:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC026-d5e4b1396482ff; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 04:54:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NF2wG-0005d5-Qk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:53:00 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NF2wG-0005cw-3R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:53:00 +0000 Received: from lnx500.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de ([130.83.156.225]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NF2wE-0000FX-GC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:53:00 +0000 Received: from FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.212.129]) by lnx500.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.14.2/8.14.2/HRZ/PMX) with SMTP id nAU9qteS020820 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:52:55 +0100 (envelope-from schaefer@hst.tu-darmstadt.de) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de) by FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de with AVK MailGateway; for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:52:56 +0100 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:52:56 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Message-ID: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AA82@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> In-Reply-To: <9F3AD1B305084F15AA47A8061538AD5F@lindavideo> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: AW: 4kv diode Thread-Index: AcpxJkUUO0KzahZVTDSIRyKPkzlTUQAe8stA From: =?windows-1258?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= To: X-AVK-Virus-Check: AVB 19.596;29.11.2009 X-PMX-TU: seen v0.99a by 5.5.8.383112, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2009.11.30.94217 X-PMX-SPAMCHECK: outgoing mail X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: AW: Re: AW: 4kv diode Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CA71A2.E4923439" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA71A2.E4923439 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1258" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ken,=20 =20 We have ordered these diodes before some years at:=20 Getronic GmbH Warnstedtstr. 57-59 22525 Hamburg=20 Tel +49-40-54744-100 Fax +49-40-54744-150 =20 Sorry, I don=B4t know a distributor in the UK=85 How much do you need? =20 73! Stefan / DK7FC =20 =20 =20 =20 -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org] Im Auftrag von Ken Gesendet: Sonntag, 29. November 2009 19:54 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: Re: AW: 4kv diode=20 =20 Hi Stefan. Thanks Stefan, do you have a source for either the BV8 or the BV16?, I hav= e been unable to find one. =20 73 Ken M0KHW ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 6:05 PM Subject: LF: AW: 4kv diode=20 =20 Hi Ken,=20 My hint is to try a BV8 Diode. It is able to take 500mA. On my work, I hav= e good experiences with the BV16, the 16kV Version.=20 Each one costs abt 1=80. Three in parallel, thermal coupled, should be no= problem at all. And: there=B4s no need for extra cooling! =20 73, Stefan=20 =20 -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org] Im Auftrag von Ken Gesendet: Sonntag, 29. November 2009 12:05 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: 4kv diode=20 =20 Hello All. I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or equivalent diode, BY4 4kv @ 1A, BY6 6k= v @ 1A, I have searched the web and looked in Farnell, any ideas please. =20 73. Ken =20 M0KHW =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA71A2.E4923439 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1258" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Ken,

 

We have ordered these diodes before some ye= ars at:

Getronic GmbH

Warnstedtstr. 57-59

22525 Hamb= urg 

Tel +49-40-54744-100

Fax +49-40-54744-150

 

Sorry, I don=B4t know a distributor in the= UK=85

How much do you need?

 

73! Stefan / DK7FC

 

 

 

 

-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----

Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Ken

Gesendet: Sonntag, 29. November 2009 19:54

An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Betreff: LF: Re: AW: 4kv diode

 

Hi Stefan.

Thanks Stefan, do you have a source for eit= her the BV8 or the BV16?, I have been unable to find one.

 

73

Ken

M0KHW

----- Original Message ----- =

From: Stef= an Sch=E4fer

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Sent: Su= nday, November 29, 2009 6:05 PM

Subject: LF: AW: 4kv diode

 

Hi Ken,

My hint is to try a BV8 Diode. It is able= to take 500mA. On my work, I have good experiences with the BV16, the 16kV Version= .

Each one costs abt 1=80. Three in parallel,= thermal coupled, should be no problem at all. And: there=B4s no need for extra coo= ling!

 

73, Stefan

 

-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----<= /font>

Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Ken

Gesendet: Sonntag, 29. November 2009 12:05

An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Betreff: LF: 4kv diode

 

Hello All.

I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or equivalent= diode, BY4   4kv @ 1A, BY6  6kv @ 1A, I have searched the web and looked in Farnell, any ideas please.

 

73.

Ken

 

M0KHW   

------_=_NextPart_001_01CA71A2.E4923439-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb07.mx.aol.com (rly-mb07.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.165]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMB023-d174b0c2b9e3a7; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:53:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB073-d174b0c2b9e3a7; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:53:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ND0Ug-0006H9-Jn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:52:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ND0Ug-0006H0-45 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:52:06 +0000 Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ND0Uf-0003AQ-Bt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:52:06 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.4]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091124185159.HMTR27507.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:51:59 +0000 Received: from [81.109.247.175] (helo=desktop) by know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ND0UY-0007u2-Gb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:51:59 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: References: <000e01ca6d27$45eaac40$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:51:50 -0000 Message-ID: <014501ca6d37$2f8821c0$0517aac0@desktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <000e01ca6d27$45eaac40$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Thread-Index: AcptJ6+OOw/budT0Tzy0G2Twk8cIIgADy0tg X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=ZtHxNT4mZm3rCuM0SmWmgWxeBwJsziC8EqOrwwVkrhA= c=1 sm=0 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=__Cjr1fVOnQ7gy31s0oA:9 a=FMvzVr_5ozMECM1t4ffPP7-uUDAA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=lmY3GW_J7IisIVyFvHkA:9 a=W6vkNyq9XE5ylnjCkbYA:7 a=xhYDAYKtungB-XvQeHEVP0cozzkA:4 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: RE: SITOR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0146_01CA6D37.2F8821C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN, HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING,LINES_OF_YELLING_2,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0146_01CA6D37.2F8821C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit IS THIS NOT TANTAMOUNT TO ENCOURAGING WOULD-BE UNATTENDED BEACON APPLIANCE OPERATORS TO JAM THE BANDS WITH DATA?? Jim :-) (tongue firmly in cheek!) _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton Sent: 24 November 2009 16:58 To: rsgb Subject: LF: SITOR Looking for a good decode prog. mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0146_01CA6D37.2F8821C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

IS THIS NOT TAN= TAMOUNT TO ENCOURAGING WOULD-BE UNATTENDED BEACON APPLIANCE OPERATORS TO JAM THE BANDS WITH DATA??

 

Jim J  (tongue firmly in cheek!)

 

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org [mailto:owner-= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton
Sent: 24 November 2009= 16:58
To: rsgb
Subject: LF: SITOR

 

Looking for a good decode prog.<= /font>

mal/g3kev

 

------=_NextPart_000_0146_01CA6D37.2F8821C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (rly-mg05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.111]) by air-mg01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG013-a114af609e620; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:59:43 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG053-a114af609e620; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:59:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6vBA-0001np-3Q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:58:48 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6vB9-0001ng-I3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:58:47 +0000 Received: from nina.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.76]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6vB6-0003ke-O5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:58:47 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by nina.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id nA7Nwcn7002345 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:28:38 -0330 Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:28:38 -0330 (NST) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <2F1AB4DFB90B402ABA068A546B4AEDDE@radiorummet> <9afca2640911070817h546534e4q7a3a8be61d767981@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: 10 mW WSPR beacon. Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-1719232024-493423239-1257638318=:31422" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ---1719232024-493423239-1257638318=:31422 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Sun, 8 Nov 2009, Gus wrote: > Roger, > > thanks! > > I'm trying to get a decode from you at any moment I am QRV on WSPR! > Despite my noisy environment, it certainly succeeds some evening / night= ! > > 73 de Gus SM6BHZ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Roger Lapthorn > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 5:17 PM > Subject: Re: LF: 10 mW WSPR beacon. > > > Gus, > > Getting a report from AA1A is amazing - really well done Gus. WSPR is= remarkable with very low power signals. > > As you may know, I have been using <1mW ERP for several weeks and have= been heard by 27 stations in 5 countries with best DX 896kms. I now belie= ve my ERP is approaching 2mW. I am hopeful that you will hear my tiny WSP= R signal one night soon - maybe tonight overnight Gus? > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > > > > 2009/11/7 Gus > > Dear LF group, > > > > After running beacon WSPR night 6-7 November with only 10 mW ERP (125= mW) TX power on 500 kHz it gives me great surprise, that a very long rang= e can be achieved with extremely small power! > > > Dave AA1A got a decoding where the distance between us is 5756 km. > > Also a number of EU stn=92s reported decodes. > > > On previous occasions, with a power of 1 W ERP is Laurence KL1X/BY3A= reported a number of decoding where the distance between us is 7284 km. > > > > I would also like to thank the other reporting from the night's 10 mW= broadcasts, and note that WSPR is a fashion which is particularly suitabl= e for very low power! > > > 73 de Gus SM6BHZ > > > > www.sm6bhz.com > > > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > ---1719232024-493423239-1257638318=:31422-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG093-a034aed6a9239d; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 06:01:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG035-a034aed6a9239d; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 06:01:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N4YBD-0003h0-Ia for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 11:01:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N4YBD-0003gr-77 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 11:01:03 +0000 Received: from mx01.infotech.at ([213.174.240.1]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N4Y9R-0003Jc-Px for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 10:59:14 +0000 Received: from [213.174.228.193] by mx01.infotech.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N4YAy-0008F4-Sq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:00:49 +0100 Message-ID: <4AED6A88.2010200@inext.at> Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:01:28 +0100 From: Oberreiter Oswald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: OE5ODL - report Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) hallo dave ! many thanks fer report my antenna is marconi inv L. high only 15m ,120m long lik a Z,with end C. my antenna areal is only 33m broad to56m long . 137khz 17 countrys workt in cw and qrs3. cuagn soon 73 ossi oe5odl jn68rd Dave G3WCB schrieb: > Ossi, LF, > Screengrabs of OE5ODL, captured this afternoon. My antenna is a 20m centre fed "Tee" at 5m. RX is ICOM ICP-R1000, with tuned pre-amp. > > > 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (rly-ma04.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.48]) by air-ma09.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMA091-89f4b12c445341; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:58:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA041-89f4b12c445341; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:58:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEoxW-0003DC-Ai for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:57:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEoxV-0003D3-Rf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:57:21 +0000 Received: from web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.127]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEoxV-00047f-Ne for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jim FYI =C2=A0 G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM=C2=A0 RTTY BEA= CO <091129 18:35:55 Start Logging> N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS=20 G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM=C2=A0 RTTY BEA= CO N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS=20 G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM=C2=A0 RTTY BEA= CO N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS=20 G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM=C2=A0 RTTY BEA= CO N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS=20 AIG7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM=C2=A0 RTTY= BEACO N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS=20 G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM=C2=A0 RTTY BEA= CO N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS=20 G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM=C2=A0 RTTY BEA= CO N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS=20 G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM=C2=A0 RTTY BEA= CO N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS=20 =C2=A0 73 petefmt --- On Sun, 29/11/09, James Cowburn wrote: From: James Cowburn Subject: LF: RTTY test transmission on 501.5 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 17:06 Dear LF =C2=A0 I am running a test RTTY transmission on 501.5 (I hope!!) =C2=A0It transmi= ts for abt 1 min every 10 mins. =C2=A0 I=E2=80=99d be grateful for any reports. =C2=A0I will shut it down at 20.0= 0z or before if necessary =C2=A0 73s =C2=A0 Jim G7NKS =20 --0-1421568518-1259521035=:12319 Content-Type: text/html; 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Jim FYI
 
G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM  RTT= Y BEACO
<091129 18:35:55 Start Logging>
N RTTY BEACON TXING EA= CH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C
OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE= G7NKS
G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM&nbs= p; RTTY BEACO
N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPT= ION VIA JAMES.C
OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS
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N RTTY BEACON TXIN= G EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C
OWBURN?VIRGIN.NE= T DE G7NKS
G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM=   RTTY BEACO
N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RE= CEPTION VIA JAMES.C
OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS
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OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS
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N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH= 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C
OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE= G7NKS
G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM&nbs= p; RTTY BEACO
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OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS
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73 petefmt

--- On Sun, 29/11/09, James Cowburn <james= .cowburn@virgin.net> wrote:

From: James Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.n= et>
Subject: LF: RTTY test transmission on 501.5
To: rsgb_lf_grou= p@blacksheep.org
Date: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 17:06

Dear LF

 

I am running a test RTTY transmission on 501.5= (I hope!!)  It transmits for abt 1 min every 10 mins.<= /DIV>

 

I=E2=80=99d be grateful for any reports.  = I will shut it down at 20.00z or before if necessary

 

73s

 

Jim G7NKS


=20 --0-1421568518-1259521035=:12319-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db02.mx.aol.com (rly-db02.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.77]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB043-aab4b02b3a82b5; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:31:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB021-aab4b02b3a82b5; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:31:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAP4C-0002vy-My for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:30:00 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAP4C-0002vp-3r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:30:00 +0000 Received: from mail-gx0-f210.google.com ([209.85.217.210]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAP4A-0000RN-D3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:30:00 +0000 Received: by gxk2 with SMTP id 2so33589gxk.4 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 06:29:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=uxZ01LlGa48IoZLLdUTqOEaGcKUIsgiKwLF4QpT+2sc=; b=lCxs2/YQJba8m6WIBDZc9G+HdA8at6Zn+zET6AKHLtyeYgpQSnYx29Itfq4cdTgORT cb4C1Ut7pKsfyluoR5JWzHlHjeBgsG+TCMHU7b1FSHgvDEne6LUev5gieSaLn8byRXga dE8kG0JS21BsG7s35H8LYDEfS0gzYYlvdUoUU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=orKMKLNoPfINLVIV/lwpFu2GzqObmQ4Bcu8zjaVtCzUaWklTciJbHaLnDIqo7J0KXH APDOM/WVpKNtpKgUiE17SaFVUJC0Ubl0N6zEO0/UskVxp0Uo99HjqB+O+b5aXhcPKgOt aOyuuKPJiZFC9xEYEPudukivCHmckOpQbou8c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.129.13 with SMTP id b13mr62840ybd.314.1258468189016; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 06:29:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B02B081.4080003@telus.net> References: <1f0624b90911160805u4435bd18ue805924594d8b997@mail.gmail.com> <20091117081718.BDD6EF3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> <4B02B081.4080003@telus.net> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:29:48 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70911170629t5d073432sf5c3c06bb071d0d8@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m266.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Lighten up Scott! On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Scott Tilley wrote: > The first =A0illegal ON-VX QSO. > > > > Rik Strobbe wrote: >> >> Gary, All, >> >> yesterday I could copy VX9MRC in QRSS3 with a surprising strong signal= as >> early as 18 UTC, when I launched Argo. >> Throughout the evening the signal was strong and with little QSB from >> 19-22UTC, after that the signal became weaker with much more QSB. >> Probably because I had a sked with Joe at 22:40 UTC ;-) . >> But despite all we managed to complete the QSO with both way M report >> (would have been a solid O earlier the evening). >> A first ON-VE QSO on 500kHz and with +/- 4075km a new DX record for me >> Joe transmitted on 507.770 and I on 501.190. >> Between 19 and 22 UTC the signal was audible most of the time and would >> have been CW copy if it were not squeezed between the NDB "Z" carrier= at >> 507.980 (S9+ here) the SM6BHZ CW/SSB test transmissions (up to S9) and= a >> local birdie on 507.600. >> >> For the QSO I was running 300W into my 11m high / 25m long lazy-L anten= na, >> estimated ERP about 1.5 Watt (at best, if the greenery does not absorb= too >> much) >> >> The night from Sunday - Monday I left Argo running, =A0VX9MRC produced= a >> good signal all through the night and faded out at 07UTC. This would me= an >> that there is a potential transatlantic path on 500kHz for 13h a day !!= ! >> >> 73, Rik =A0ON7YD - OR7T >> >> At 17:05 16/11/2009, you wrote: >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> Good signals from both stations last night. >>> >>> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo. >> >> >> > > --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (rly-dc03.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.32]) by air-dc09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC093-b114b01935316; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:01:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC035-b114b01935316; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:01:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA5m0-00072m-Lx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:53:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA5lx-00072d-EY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:53:54 +0000 Received: from web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.123]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA5ls-00011k-VO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:53:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 83659 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Nov 2009 17:53:36 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1258394016; bh=i1QVBoBVWAeEpPzDYCtF9ZizGhl8hP9QodM9z/wwD/s=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Erek+VXQ8OAqbV3v4Ar9TE63IaB6+FAqPQTStAFYZWE1yo4w4badi71W50eSJpL0U5oSYNf5uMv5+g2jm66cPMjzklQf97mJkKFpKb7+XjmEfNvXSs5GKu+o/JitzejprMq6nGdRrWJ9nv+0Ld2/9yLFh+6Xls7O+YEuUPSAlgo= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xtQN/NRAY56op3UkbSIu6g8zHbM7GDJAG7xps3XmDtYKw+WVbzKtbKL96VxF9LwW+hSD23/fmhE1kLWIs00pVW6b5oR0UEniPN4I6rw1rXWUS+xRyKHKqcr81qd8hhvuifVV8oRV2k0wkZjaXwmx/l2ELpkBz5+UyfXaDoAM5+0=; Message-ID: <770459.83537.qm@web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Jv2QsNAVM1n0RRA3PJF5s0gWVxB3K9c_O9TwaW7nQuaFK09N3TwhtuLmk6X.RxRz1k5pYiu5IgfXiBl9okczT80NSQbiEjLOe6gxCB7Hy6V5dsIJHf63nxUTidcMs1XpsXXLGLIjE7R4f2twae0VjorVCGRxBCNZMGzNLXp4DqGv5DU4MrJOb59x17oVW3k.ogGu.IlGR6aF53LwlvRW61ngULMfxAeaSZ5A33.RBEV_EXTZIetNJJaQSnXUphG7fhkOk.CDXkEPgO2LB5SklA_WsMgfVbI- Received: from [86.137.246.146] by web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:53:36 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:53:36 -0800 (PST) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <6384450D523443C29C5BD75742F335FF@AGB> MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: Jim's fixed it! WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1488585755-1258394016=:83537" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d299.1 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-1488585755-1258394016=:83537 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Looking good Jim =A0 73 petefmt =20 --0-1488585755-1258394016=:83537 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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73 petefmt

=20 --0-1488585755-1258394016=:83537-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB081-ad84b085bdf35f; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:30:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB076-ad84b085bdf35f; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:30:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBxWF-0002jr-0f for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:29:23 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBxWE-0002jh-MJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:29:22 +0000 Received: from nina.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.76]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBxWD-0002Br-KJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:29:22 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by nina.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id nALLTEjV004950 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:59:14 -0330 Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:59:14 -0330 (NST) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" In-Reply-To: <20091121211012.fehyrbxl4400ckc8@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Message-ID: References: <4B04EADA.4090707@telus.net> <57a24ca70911190525s5bbf2768gcfe5e7150eb8f784@mail.gmail.com> <20091121211012.fehyrbxl4400ckc8@webmail6.kuleuven.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: temporary grabber Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thanks, Rik. It appears as the signals are there already. 73 Joe On Sat, 21 Nov 2009, Rik Strobbe wrote: >> In the mean time, VX9MRC is presently on 507.77 kHz transmitting QRSS10 > > Hello Joe, > > I have set up a temporary 507.77 kHz grabber at > http://www.strobbe.eu/argo/argo.jpg > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md04.mx.aol.com (rly-md04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.142]) by air-md07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD071-8f94b00573319f; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:32:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD041-8f94b00573319f; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:32:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9koe-0000Zy-3W for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:31:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9kod-0000Zp-NS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:31:15 +0000 Received: from mailout09.t-online.de ([194.25.134.84]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9kod-0002cm-1g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:31:15 +0000 Received: from fwd08.aul.t-online.de by mailout09.t-online.de with smtp id 1N9koZ-0003qk-05; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:31:11 +0100 Received: from e7010 (TnwGSkZYohTXgloXqgn3QJ3+KHumHgdX1v3jYEog9AsXbxPfAoQTQ3YKGAqVUyhQAM@[84.147.204.191]) by fwd08.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1N9koM-1C51to0; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:30:58 +0100 Message-ID: <003a01ca662a$2791b300$6402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: References: <000a01ca65ec$16f199e0$6402a8c0@e7010> <4B0027F5.3060603@xs4all.nl> <4027d401.32bdadee.4b00481f.9684d@go2.pl Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:30:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: TnwGSkZYohTXgloXqgn3QJ3+KHumHgdX1v3jYEog9AsXbxPfAoQTQ3YKGAqVUyhQAM X-TOI-MSGID: 57ad380f-84ff-4ce2-aff5-2c654db9c619 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: DI2AG WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Marcin, tnx fer ufb rprt on MF in WSPR. Congrats to your antenna 120m long 30m high. The mine is 47m long and about 10m high. Good DX and 73 Walter ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 7:27 PM Subject: Re: LF: DI2AG WSPR > Dear Walter, LF > Good copy your beacon: > 1804 -10 1.7 0.505013 0 DI2AG JN59 27 > 1812 -14 1.4 0.505013 0 DI2AG JN59 27 > 1818 -10 1.5 0.505013 0 DI2AG JN59 27 > 73! Marcin SQ2BXI > in SP2KDS Club: antenna longwire 120m long, 30m hight > > > Walter und Marianne Staubach wrote: > > > Dear MF, > > > DI2AG is already on air in WSPR. QRG 505.090KHz, PWR 0.4W ERP. > > > Duty cycle 33%. The beacon will be busy until tomorrow morning. > > > 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF > > > > Walter > > 1546 -28 1.4 0.505089 0 DI2AG JN59 27 > > 73 de Ko, NL9222 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me01.mx.aol.com (rly-me01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.34]) by air-me06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME061-9954afc838e75; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:52:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME011-9954afc838e75; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:52:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8hZc-0007wr-Ia for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:51:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8hZc-0007wi-4Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:51:24 +0000 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([195.4.92.90]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8hZb-0000zH-1s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:51:24 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.18] (helo=8.mx.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.70 #1) id 1N8hZZ-0003Zk-Sf; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:51:21 +0100 Received: from w387f.w.pppool.de ([89.58.56.127]:1192 helo=2a2d7ed321c6425) by 8.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #94) id 1N8hZZ-0005Ov-5W; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:51:21 +0100 From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" To: Cc: "'Gary - G4WGT'" References: <002101ca5999$4bf20120$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <1256936694.4aeb54f611115@imp.netikka.net> <81521736.20091030222334@web.de> <1f0624b90910310554x54fe88d6r2718cc43a77ee978@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:51:22 +0100 Message-ID: <72905F9378E44EB3909119D22CF36CA9@2a2d7ed321c6425> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <1f0624b90910310554x54fe88d6r2718cc43a77ee978@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcpaKbPKKAPRUrlyQomHUn3/b+0xiAJt98nQ X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Report: G4WGT in QRSS3 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002F_01CA63EA.A8ACBB70" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01CA63EA.A8ACBB70 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0030_01CA63EA.A8ACBB70" ------=_NextPart_001_0030_01CA63EA.A8ACBB70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Gary, LF Very fine copying your QRSS3_signal here in JN59LN; (also good audible..hi..) vy 73 de Gerhard // DK6NI == ------=_NextPart_001_0030_01CA63EA.A8ACBB70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello Gary, LF<= o:p>

 

Ver= y fine copying your QRSS3_signal here in JN59LN;

(al= so good audible….hi….)

 

vy= 73 de Gerhard  //  DK6NI

 

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autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: DI2AG WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Andrey, mni tnx fer reports over distance 1896km. Great 73 Walter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 8:30 PM Subject: LF: Re: DI2AG WSPR > Hello Walter, > 1920 -27 1.8 0.505089 DI2AG JN59 27 > 1926 -28 1.7 0.505089 DI2AG JN59 27 > > 73 Andrey > > > Dear MF, > DI2AG is already on air in WSPR. QRG 505.090KHz, PWR 0.4W ERP. Duty cycle 33%. The beacon will be busy until tomorrow > morning. > 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb11.mx.aol.com (rly-mb11.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.169]) by air-mb08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB083-d354b068c562fe; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:32:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB111-d354b068c562fe; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:32:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBSdu-0005pN-WD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:31:14 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBSdu-0005pE-AH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:31:14 +0000 Received: from qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.16]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBSdt-0000if-0u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:31:14 +0000 Received: from OMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.59]) by QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 7Pk61d0051GhbT851QWmWV; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:30:46 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([76.23.233.102]) by OMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 7QX61d00C2DDHkk3TQX63S; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:31:06 +0000 Message-ID: <003001ca69dd$54c906f0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <000501ca67ba$e4817db0$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <002e01ca682b$c42ac460$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <00b301ca6915$df7b7440$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <20091120083258.C0711F3863@smtps02.kuleuven.be> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:31:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 1.7 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS20 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Thanks to Rik, Nicolas, Laurence (China!), Garry and Marco for successful reception reports...and others that looked for the signal. Tonight WE2XGR/2 will transmit "X" in QRSS20 (with cw ID at the beginning of the X) from ~ 2130 to ~ 2330Z. A slight frequency change was requested. Tonight's operation will be on 506.506 kHz. As always, reports are greatly appreciated. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDA101-a584b11733c25a; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:00:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA028-a584b11733c25a; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:00:14 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NESVD-00054C-Sw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:58:39 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NESVD-000543-4X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:58:39 +0000 Received: from lnx503.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de ([130.83.156.232]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NESVB-0000Yx-3e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:58:39 +0000 Received: from FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.212.129]) by lnx503.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.14.2/8.14.2/HRZ/PMX) with SMTP id nASIwZuD024002 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:58:35 +0100 (envelope-from schaefer@hst.tu-darmstadt.de) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de) by FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de with AVK MailGateway; for ; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:58:35 +0100 Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:58:35 +0100 Message-ID: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AA68@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <001401ca701e$5f8d3560$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> X-MS-Has-Attach: Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Thread-Topic: Re: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz Thread-Index: AcpwHzI9dzYKOf2oRhKrRvbam17WTwAPN99w From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= To: X-AVK-Virus-Check: AVB 19.593;28.11.2009 X-PMX-TU: seen v0.99a by 5.5.8.383112, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2009.11.28.184821 X-PMX-SPAMCHECK: outgoing mail X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: AW: Re: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hey Jay, tnx! I will start NOW, that means i put everything in my car and drive on the= mountain/hill in JN49IS. So it still takes 60 to 90 mins to see/hear the= first sigs. How long I stay, that will depend on the activity but abt 3= hrs is planned (I have a small generator that is heating my car (500W) an= d charges the batteries (up to 10A))... Hpe to cu there! :-) 73s, Stefan PS: The first time I will try to test a experimental rx-loop, mounted on= a hula hup circle ;-) -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org] Im Auftrag von jrusgrove@comcast.net Gesendet: Samstag, 28. November 2009 12:32 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: Re: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz Stefan Welcome to the reflector! What will be your hours of operation? Will be happy to have a look from th= is side of the pond. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Stefan Sch=E4fer" To: Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 5:36 AM Subject: LF: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz Dear Lowfers, This is my first mail to the reflector and so i want to say hello to all= :-) It=B4s nice to be able to=20 participate now here although my activity will stay on the band mostly ;-) If there will be no weather problems this evening I will agn be qrv on 137= in CW (abt 136,8) and/or=20 QRSS3. Since abt 3 weeks I am qrv again. Since I live in a city I have no possibi= lities to be on LF, even=20 not in RXing (QRM)... Therefore and cause I like to be in the nature I am= now qrv in /p. I use a=20 kite antenna, 100m up (!). This should have a radiation resistance of 0,83= Ohms. My overall=20 resistance is abt 30...55 Ohms, depending on the ground a achieve. So you= can imagine abt the ERP. I=20 have a 1KW class E PA that I use with limited power. But The ERP easily re= aches the 1W ERP limit, as=20 one can imagine.. My RX is still poor but I am working on a receiving loop. Now, I use the= TX ant for receiving that=20 causes some problems ;-) It would be nice to get some QSOs or even RX-RPRTs tonight. Until now I go= t 2 QSOs in each activity=20 ;-) Best regards, Stefan / DK7FC From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da04.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDA043-a794b0d79b8130; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:38:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA071-a794b0d79b8130; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:38:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDMkU-0006Tl-8h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:37:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDMkT-0006Tc-UB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:37:53 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDMkT-0003Fs-5o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:37:53 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CCC44C8170 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:37:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 859AE4C813F for ; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:37:47 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B0D797B.4050304@online.fr> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:37:47 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Who? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) RA3YO ! Chris a =E9crit : > Hi All, > Does anybody know who was sending 'Y' last evening just before midnight= UTC on approx. 137.778kHz, please? > Thanks, > Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, JO01MI. > =20 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb10.mx.aol.com (rly-mb10.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.168]) by air-mb06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB062-d334b098d9a22b; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:14:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB107-d334b098d9a22b; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:14:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCHsR-00054E-3T for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:13:39 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCHsQ-000545-HJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:13:38 +0000 Received: from out1.ip05ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.241]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCHsO-0005a3-52 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:13:38 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnsFAKAbCUtcHEQ8/2dsb2JhbACCT4s5BsRihDwE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,267,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="106713751" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.28.68.60]) by out1.ip05ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 22 Nov 2009 19:13:27 +0000 Message-ID: <00bb01ca6ba7$dd53d650$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <00ad01ca6ba5$82fec130$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:13:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: G3KEV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B8_01CA6BA7.DD008630" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01CA6BA7.DD008630 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You are OOO copy now at 1912 z=20 mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 6:56 PM Subject: LF: Re: G3KEV Tony Tnx ur call but the qsb was severe. We have worked before on cw so= do not understand why u are so weak at present. de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Anton B=E4rtschi=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 5:13 PM Subject: LF: G3KEV You are "O" here, dear Mal, ufb. Sorry we couldn't make it. Probab= ly my antenna is to small. It seems to me, that my limit is around 800= -900km on Longwave. Power is 1kW and I can't get much higher. But one= day, we may get the permission for 500kHz and there it should be much= easier, even in normal CW. 73 de Toni, HB9ASB ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01CA6BA7.DD008630 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You are OOO copy now at 1912 z
mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mal=20 hamilton
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 20= 09 6:56=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: G3KEV

Tony
Tnx ur call but the qsb was severe.= We have=20 worked before on cw so do not understand why u are so weak at=20 present.
 
de mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Anton= B=E4rtschi=20
Sent: Sunday, November 22,= 2009 5:13=20 PM
Subject: LF: G3KEV

You are "O" here, dear Mal, ufb. Sorry we couldn't= make it.=20 Probably my antenna is to small. It seems to me, that my limit is= around=20 800-900km on Longwave. Power is 1kW and I can't get much higher.= But one=20 day, we may get the permission for 500kHz and there it should be= much=20 easier, even in normal CW.
73 de Toni, HB9ASB
<= /BLOCKQUOTE>
------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01CA6BA7.DD008630-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb01.mx.aol.com (rly-mb01.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.154]) by air-mb04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB044-ce84b0853b31b2; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:55:26 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB014-ce84b0853b31b2; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:55:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBwyF-00029x-S2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:54:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBwyF-00029o-EU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:54:15 +0000 Received: from qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.64]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBwyE-000211-JL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:54:15 +0000 Received: from OMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.11]) by QMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 7v5A1d0050EZKEL57wu7SY; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:54:07 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([76.23.233.102]) by OMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 7wu41d0022DDHkk3Mwu4t5; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:54:04 +0000 Message-ID: <003801ca6aec$c4724650$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep" Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:54:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.7 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS20 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in QRSS20 ("X" with cw ID at beginning) on 506.506 kHz from ~ 2130 to ~2330 Z. Reports appreciated. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md04.mx.aol.com (rly-md04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.142]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD033-8fe4b06c514d9; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:34:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD046-8fe4b06c514d9; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:34:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBWQY-0007WI-V3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:33:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBWQY-0007W8-Io for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:33:42 +0000 Received: from mailout11.t-online.de ([194.25.134.85]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBWQX-0000v8-UD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:33:42 +0000 Received: from fwd06.aul.t-online.de by mailout11.t-online.de with smtp id 1NBWQX-0002IF-02; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:33:41 +0100 Received: from e7010 (bVP-ABZbrhYmhODtQRMFYHWsApesh2SS8E1xzeexLTVqI+-tjX+4VTTMM8tj424w+F@[84.147.218.103]) by fwd06.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1NBWQI-02FxtQ0; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:33:26 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01ca69ff$305eda20$6402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:33:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: bVP-ABZbrhYmhODtQRMFYHWsApesh2SS8E1xzeexLTVqI+-tjX+4VTTMM8tj424w+F X-TOI-MSGID: 46bfca47-f813-45d3-8c6e-1b6b772856bd X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: DI2AG WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6A07.90141130" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6A07.90141130 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear MF, the beacon DI2AG is now QRV in WSPR on 505.090KHz. PWR 0.4W ER= P, duty cycle 33%. The transmission will end tomorrow morning. Pse ur= reports via WSPR DATABASE or reflektor. Thank you. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6A07.90141130 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear MF,
      &= nbsp; the=20 beacon DI2AG is now QRV in WSPR on 505.090KHz. PWR 0.4W ERP, duty cycl= e 33%. The=20 transmission will end tomorrow morning. Pse ur reports via WSPR DATABA= SE=20 or reflektor.
Thank you.
73   Walter  DI2AG /= =20 DJ2LF
 
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6A07.90141130-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me07.mx.aol.com (rly-me07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.41]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME021-9cc4b0281cf30b; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:58:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME078-9cc4b0281cf30b; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:58:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NALkL-00029o-Nv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:57:17 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NALkL-00029f-3K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:57:17 +0000 Received: from mail-px0-f187.google.com ([209.85.216.187]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NALkJ-0006nq-C6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:57:17 +0000 Received: by pxi17 with SMTP id 17so4755794pxi.30 for ; 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boundary=000e0cd21764c4727704788efcc2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m264.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0cd21764c4727704788efcc2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Rik, LF, I should be able to make 1w ERP or more using my Class D Tx but I have matching problems on 500kHz so no real high power in use yet. 73 Gary - G4WGT. 2009/11/17 Rik Strobbe > Gary, > > sure. > Condx were very poor during our QSO. > If propagation is good (as it was from 20-22UTC) far less than 1 Watt ERP > might do the job. > In addition you are most likely at a better location for VO in the north of > England. > Few days ago Finbar worked Joe in CW with 559-579 reports while i could > barely hear Joe. > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > > At 10:46 17/11/2009, you wrote: > > Rik, > > Well done. > > I should be in a position to attempt the same as I saw solid QRS signals > from Joe. > > Gary - G4WGT. > > 2009/11/17 Rik Strobbe < rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> > Gary, All, > > yesterday I could copy VX9MRC in QRSS3 with a surprising strong signal as > early as 18 UTC, when I launched Argo. > Throughout the evening the signal was strong and with little QSB from > 19-22UTC, after that the signal became weaker with much more QSB. > Probably because I had a sked with Joe at 22:40 UTC ;-) . > But despite all we managed to complete the QSO with both way M report > (would have been a solid O earlier the evening). > A first ON-VE QSO on 500kHz and with +/- 4075km a new DX record for me > Joe transmitted on 507.770 and I on 501.190. > Between 19 and 22 UTC the signal was audible most of the time and would > have been CW copy if it were not squeezed between the NDB "Z" carrier at > 507.980 (S9+ here) the SM6BHZ CW/SSB test transmissions (up to S9) and a > local birdie on 507.600. > > For the QSO I was running 300W into my 11m high / 25m long lazy-L antenna, > estimated ERP about 1.5 Watt (at best, if the greenery does not absorb too > much) > > The night from Sunday - Monday I left Argo running, VX9MRC produced a good > signal all through the night and faded out at 07UTC. This would mean that > there is a potential transatlantic path on 500kHz for 13h a day !!! > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > At 17:05 16/11/2009, you wrote: > Hi All, > > Good signals from both stations last night. > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo. > > > > --000e0cd21764c4727704788efcc2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rik, LF,

I should be able to make 1w ERP or more using= my Class D Tx but I have matching problems on 500kHz so no real high powe= r in use yet.

73

Gary -= G4WGT.

2009/11/17 Rik Strobbe &l= t;rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.= be>
Gary,

sure.
Condx were very poor during our QSO.
If propagation is good (as it was from 20-22UTC) far less than 1 Watt ERP might do the job.
In addition you are most likely at a better location for VO in the north of England.
Few days ago Finbar worked Joe in CW with 559-579 reports while i could barely hear Joe.

73, Rik=A0 ON7YD - OR7T


At 10:46 17/11/2009, you wrote:
Rik,

Well done.

I should be in a position to attempt the same as I saw solid QRS signals from Joe.

Gary - G4WGT.

2009/11/17 Rik Strobbe < rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
Gary, All,

yesterday I could copy VX9MRC in QRSS3 with a surprising strong signal as early as 18 UTC, when I launched Argo.
Throughout the evening the signal was strong and with little QSB= from 19-22UTC, after that the signal became weaker with much more QSB.
Probably because I had a sked with Joe at 22:40 UTC ;-) .
But despite all we managed to complete the QSO with both way M re= port (would have been a solid O earlier the evening).
A first ON-VE QSO on 500kHz and with +/- 4075km a new DX record= for me
Joe transmitted on 507.770 and I on 501.190.
Between 19 and 22 UTC the signal was audible most of the time and would have been CW copy if it were not squeezed between the NDB "Z" carrier at 507.980 (S9+ here) the SM6BHZ CW/SSB test transmissions (up to S9) and a local birdie on 507.600.

For the QSO I was running 300W into my 11m high / 25m long lazy-L antenna, estimated ERP about 1.5 Watt (at best, if the greenery does not absorb too much)

The night from Sunday - Monday I left Argo running,=A0 VX9MRC produced a good signal all through the night and faded out at 07UTC. This would mean that there is a potential transatlantic path on 500kHz for 13h a day !!!

73, Rik=A0 ON7YD - OR7T

At 17:05 16/11/2009, you wrote:
Hi All,

Good signals from both stations last night.

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.




--000e0cd21764c4727704788efcc2-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de07.mx.aol.com (rly-de07.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.143]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE023-4ef4b091f4a27b; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:24:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE078-4ef4b091f4a27b; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:23:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCAX3-00020H-Pf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:23:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCAX3-000207-DV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:23:05 +0000 Received: from ey-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.78.145]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCAX2-0003W0-ND for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:23:05 +0000 Received: by ey-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 3so1410421eyh.16 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:23:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=DyMg3X+KrHzXl/JYncv6gxosdbfz4KtCHGm0HMkZLzY=; b=ox4isV7usZZQD8gI8csL58PylXDg+l3JrZ7OReklQGGytZauCrBr+Zf8gk+jwYPOX9 bgyCzzhfK5Tcg3UED0eGsyLSerE3x4KRlkpmGVPd+aABBJZvqJQtjSKq/PCSkyNWnhZe rb3W5xAmVdzEA/YE2EyKfN03vQGAKycWPtQ7M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Z8AjzWZa6bmsoMpQaC+MWO+xY/BNJOUlKEogT4G8S0Can6k4UvU+w3UgtYt43p54gp cJt7LCEo8YkA3ssSzEmLIrBarpLPgHmBsy+oOF8m4W5YkTFSo6cMhm0l8Ps1QhLBueQm imHF0ztVJkSh5EV7r1mzz8Gl4Vzte1a0mxOCU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.97.22 with SMTP id j22mr3484087ebn.53.1258888983915; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:23:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:23:03 +0100 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Anton_B=E4rtschi?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_00_10=0.642,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: F8BOJ and G3XDV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502e42cb2ad080478f3eeb6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d246.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --00504502e42cb2ad080478f3eeb6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thank you for the nice QSO's this morning, Claude and Mike. Right now wind is too strong and I had to go QRT. If the wind calms down I'll be back in the afternoon/evening. 73 de Toni, HB9ASB --00504502e42cb2ad080478f3eeb6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thank you for the nice QSO's this morning, Claude and Mike. Right now wind is too strong and I had to go QRT. If the wind calms down I'll be back in the afternoon/evening.
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--00504502e42cb2ad080478f3eeb6-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da01.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDA012-a954b06b1271f8; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:09:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA105-a954b06b1271f8; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:09:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBV62-0006ms-8b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:08:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBV61-0006mj-TE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:08:25 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBV60-0008U7-9p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:08:25 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3E0A51C122 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:00:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from PC_van_Rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-106.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.106]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8098FF3862 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:00:08 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:00:13 +0100 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091120150008.8098FF3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: something completely different Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear all, completely off topic but maybe of some interest: With immediate start all Belgian radioamateurs holder of a "full licence" have access to 69.950MHz (+/- 5kHz) with 10W EIRP on NIB. BIPT (our Ofcom / FCC) has to be informed prior to the first activity. See http://www.bipt.be/ShowDoc.aspx?objectID=3160&lang=nl (for those who can read Dutch or French) 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (rly-mg05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.111]) by air-mg06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG063-a104af834412a9; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:25:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG052-a104af834412a9; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:24:51 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7W5x-0004DC-3U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:23:53 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7W5w-0004D3-OX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:23:52 +0000 Received: from mx.omskcity.com ([79.133.160.2]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7W5u-0003xV-IR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:23:52 +0000 Received: from noname.nodomain.nowhere (host209.161-133-79.sotline.ru [79.133.161.209]) by mx.omskcity.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nA9FNj10035442 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:23:46 +0600 (OMST) (envelope-from fitec@omskcity.com) Received: from localhost (fitec@localhost) by noname.nodomain.nowhere (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA00286 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:26:05 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: noname.nodomain.nowhere: fitec owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:26:04 +0000 (GMT) From: "Alexander S. Yurkov" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <004101ca60ab$ef362e60$0900a8c0@lark> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.8 (mx.omskcity.com [79.133.160.2]); Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:23:47 +0600 (OMST) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Losses due to ant in tree? Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) On Sun, 8 Nov 2009, Alan Melia wrote: > ground same weather same season etc etc. The Yanks put their aerials through > the trees because they use loops and the voltage on the wires in many order > lower so the current lost to the tree is much smaller. True, true... Regards, Alexander From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD051-9304af7520b394; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:19:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD108-9304af7520b394; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:19:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7H1n-0001qi-Ek for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:18:35 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7H1m-0001qZ-MZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:18:34 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f211.google.com ([209.85.220.211]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7H1j-00079b-Fm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:18:34 +0000 Received: by fxm3 with SMTP id 3so839260fxm.4 for ; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:18:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Z2kmcOjzIKONLqc0aYQp4IFXI/VKtELCkSDA6tfvGvI=; b=p5OPoyaUThu7LPKUnV+2ukWlf/dDkL6XXJmpM8jetjog7DFrtra9Uw1ykAckY5WA+9 vuucIgYYh6lUZZBMoeaFRe7hUGhICYNzv6RnOYZG9rAfJ5ynLUGDD4yIwyYScYKQtchy YsTot4OjqKzlclSnyHc2CXsb7oF5F12+Fsv/s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Q+4X41nu0pDVNTyglvijFjjv4RUC6hvbRhzhixGzNpVw+Srahm1xPtEpFRjUOruFZ1 tvW9B/t0ziOyLKAg0XaN5QzscYSUNC5p3e79hnmdt8Tl2/KbP06GtkADu3ithI8uxunr 01tXsABFMqhxMc2Yew4bD2w2pwctwdeUIq4ZA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.154.198 with SMTP id p6mr7531120bkw.131.1257722305600; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:18:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <127436.39876.qm@web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <112811.74996.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <127436.39876.qm@web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:18:25 +0100 Message-ID: <9afca2640911081518j40fe9c13s7e37f3f02987cc1c@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: Re: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175defdc405be40477e44b87 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,LINES_OF_YELLING,LINES_OF_YELLING_2 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m263.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0015175defdc405be40477e44b87 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Congratulations Chris - excellent work. A small comment about WSPR... all of us who WSPR only occupy 200Hz of the band *in total *and there is the potential for about >100 WSPR stations to share this space at any time by using 10% TX only and assuming 6Hz/station is needed for any transmission. This is GOOD use of the spectrum in my book. 73s (and work you on the key soon!) Roger G3XBM 2009/11/8 M0FMT > Congratulations Chris > > A nice piece of work. And thank you for making 600metres the kind of band > it should be. > > I support your comments. We really need a band the size of the Norwegian > allocation to coexist with these incompatible, to CW, modes. > > Very 73 Petefmt > > --- On *Sun, 8/11/09, Chris Osborn * wrote: > > > From: Chris Osborn > Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO > To: "LF Group" > Date: Sunday, 8 November, 2009, 18:03 > > > LF > > It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m. > This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 600m / > 80m. > > Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0CF - > No. 998. > > QSO break-down according to mode: 928 CW, 34 RTTY and 5 QRSS > > 600m STATIONS > > My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many of > these go back to the start of the UK 600m allocation in March 2007. > Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding > beacons). > Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of > again: G3KZU, G3YHV . . . > Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT: G3UNT, G3VTT, > G4GDR. . . > > MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED > > With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the same > stations many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of my total > contacts. > My most frequently worked stations are: > > GW3UEP - 120 G3KEV - 102 M0FMT - 90 G3ZWH - 80 (alas now > SK) > G3DXZ - 67 G4GDR - 60 EI0CF/ GI4DPE - 51 M0JXM - 48 > G3UNT - 45 G3VTT - 38 > > CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS > > There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a > cross-band QSO: > DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . . > > and our few EU MF friends are still active: > ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . . > > WSPR ON 600m > > I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for the WSPR > mode was never achieved for hand sent Morse (CW), which after all is the > mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF marine band. > If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stations > operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band then I > guess it may be time for me to QSY. > > 73 Chris G3XIZ > > > > > > > > > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --0015175defdc405be40477e44b87 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Congratulations Chris - excellent work.

A small comment about WSPR.= .. all of us who WSPR only occupy 200Hz of the band in total and th= ere is the potential for about=A0 >100 WSPR stations to share this spac= e at any time by using 10% TX only and assuming 6Hz/station is needed for= any transmission.=A0 This is GOOD use of the spectrum in my book.

73s (and work you on the key soon!)
Roger G3XBM


2009/11/8 M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>
Congratulations Chris
=A0
A nice piece of work. And thank you for making 600metres the kind of= band it should be.
=A0
I support your comments. We really need a band the size of the Norweg= ian allocation to=A0coexist with=A0these incompatible, to CW,=A0modes.=A0<= /div>
=A0
Very 73=A0=A0 Petefmt

--- On Sun, 8/11/09, Chris Osborn = <g3xiz@yahoo.co.= uk> wrote:

From: Chris Osborn <g3xiz@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO
To: "LF Group" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Date: Sunday,= 8 November, 2009, 18:03


LF

It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO= using 600m.
This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of whi= ch were 600m / 80m.

Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up= G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0CF - No. 998.

QSO break-down according to mode: =A0=A0=A0 928 CW,=A0 34 RTTY=A0 and= =A0=A0 5 QRSS

600m STAT= IONS

My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many of these go bac= k to the start of the UK=A0 600m allocation in March 2007.
Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding beaco= ns).
Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard= of again:=A0 G3KZU, G3YHV . . .
Others were once very active but have= subsequently gone QRT:=A0 G3UNT, G3VTT, G4GDR. . .

MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED

With so few active operators it is obviou= s that one will work the same stations many times and the top 10 stations= account for 70% of my total contacts.
My most frequently worked statio= ns are:

GW3UEP - 120=A0=A0=A0=A0 G3KEV - 102=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 M0FMT - 90=A0=A0= =A0=A0 G3ZWH=A0 -=A0 80=A0 (alas now SK)
G3DXZ=A0=A0=A0 -=A0=A0 67=A0= =A0=A0=A0 G4GDR -=A0=A0 60=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 EI0CF/ GI4DPE=A0 -=A0 51=A0=A0= M0JXM - 48
G3UNT=A0=A0=A0 -=A0=A0 45=A0=A0=A0=A0 G3VTT=A0 -=A0=A0 38
CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIO= NS

There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjo= y a cross-band QSO:
DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . .
and our few EU MF friends are still active:
ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ= . . .

WSPR ON 600m<= br>
I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for= the WSPR mode was never achieved for=A0 hand sent Morse (CW), which after= all is the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF marine= band.
If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stati= ons operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band then= I guess it may be time for me to QSY.

73 Chris G3XIZ












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http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088
--0015175defdc405be40477e44b87-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db04.mx.aol.com (rly-db04.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.79]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB082-ac24b04820b320; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:24:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB048-ac24b04820b320; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:23:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAtrU-0005YL-H5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:22:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAtrU-0005YC-3i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:22:56 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAtrS-0005xL-Gn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:22:56 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.4] (rx1.twatt.home [192.168.1.4]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA6683B49B for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:22:51 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4B0481CB.3090308@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:22:51 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <572081.7375.qm@web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <572081.7375.qm@web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) M0FMT wrote: > Hi LF > > I think the issue is intermodulation products caused by over driving > the the linear RF stages of the TX into distortion because when Jim > reduces drive the sidebands petty well disappear at this range. Hello All, This doesn't explain why Jim also RECEIVES multiple spots from strong stations with similar amplitudes and 50/100Hz spacings. Applying Occam's Razor - look initially for one cause - rather than "on transmit there's a TX IMD or PSU hum problem and on RX there's another separate 50Hz problem" There's a 50Hz modulation problem somewhere, but it's most likely a common RX/TX part of the system. Speclab and a known, clean RX system are your friends.... Simplify.... Simplify.... John GM4LSV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC044-b234af07f4a39e; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:06:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC057-b234af07f4a39e; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:06:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N5OhG-0000Wf-PF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:05:38 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N5OhG-0000WW-86 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:05:38 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N5OhD-0003n5-UD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:05:38 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.4] (rx1.twatt.home [192.168.1.4]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACC7C3B4D8 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 19:05:32 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4AF07EFC.2050401@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:05:32 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <993BF7557D4B4C5F8251F19CEB166E93@IBM7FFA209F07C> <4AF06B6D.5080706@toya.net.pl> In-Reply-To: <4AF06B6D.5080706@toya.net.pl> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Hell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Piotr M=C5=82ynarski wrote: >=20 > there is also another very nice piece of software dedicated entirely to= =20 > Hell modes . it is Nino's IZ8BLY > prgram which can be found on his webpage: > http://xoomer.virgilio.it/aporcino/Hell/index.htm > it does handle the ptt isuue in a 'classic' way i.e. via available com= ports > Hello Piotr, et al, Yes, but unfortunately doesn't have the facility to key a CW transmitter= =20 with the Hell signal, so you still need either an SSB transmitter or an=20 outboard circuit to rectify the soundcard output to drive a CW=20 transmitter keying input. This has worked well for me in the past however. John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG102-a1b4b0aa99fd2; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:27:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG065-a1b4b0aa99fd2; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:26:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCamq-00013b-Ci for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:25:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCamq-00013S-0s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:25:08 +0000 Received: from psmtp31.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.33]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCamp-0003NT-5s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:25:07 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp31.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KTK00I68ITMKG@psmtp31.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:24:59 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:24:42 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <9E569DBC0A864E55B79D40E3B0F0CB60@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: XGJ 23-11.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_XStvOMFV0WEtRazf9dMqpQ)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --Boundary_(ID_XStvOMFV0WEtRazf9dMqpQ) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ODK5fhNivfqJ5HSesRKFBg)" --Boundary_(ID_ODK5fhNivfqJ5HSesRKFBg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi Warren, capture XGJ Henny cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: XGJ 23-11.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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Hi Warren,
capture XGJ
Henny cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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(envelope-from ) id 1NCuoz-0001mP-JF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:48:43 +0000 Received: from [213.174.255.2] by mx01.infotech.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCuox-0003zz-JC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:48:39 +0100 Message-ID: <4B0BD672.7000909@inext.at> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:49:54 +0100 From: Oberreiter Oswald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <8613F866EF3B4051A10B42518470A926@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <8613F866EF3B4051A10B42518470A926@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: ODL 24-11.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) hallo henny ! thank you fer report your signal today 136.550 cpm good 15 db over n. here jn68rd 73 ossi oe5odl henny van elst schrieb: > Hi LF > capture ODL, > strong signal, > henny pa3cpm > 73s > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden > verzonden: > ODL 24-11.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen > virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet > toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt > weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db02.mx.aol.com (rly-db02.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.77]) by air-db07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB071-aaf4b0910d22b6; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 05:22:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB025-aaf4b0910d22b6; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 05:22:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NC9ZL-0001PO-0D for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:21:23 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NC9ZK-0001P6-85 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:21:22 +0000 Received: from mx75.mail.ru ([94.100.176.90]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NC9ZI-0003CQ-Rs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:21:22 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=17627 helo=EFREMOV) by mx75.mail.ru with asmtp id 1NC9ZC-000IsU-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:21:14 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <002301ca6b5d$7f214da0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: References: Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:20:29 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: G3YXM qrss10 (qso with SP2KDS) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001C_01CA6B5D.6AAFFF10" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01CA6B5D.6AAFFF10 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Dave, LF, Capture last night at 23.32z 73 Andrey ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01CA6B5D.6AAFFF10 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="yxm.jpg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="yxm.jpg" /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAgAAAQABAAD/4QDmRXhpZgAASUkqAAgAAAAFABIBAwABAAAAAQAAADEB AgAcAAAASgAAADIBAgAUAAAAZgAAABMCAwABAAAAAQAAAGmHBAABAAAAegAAAAAAAABBQ0Qg U3lzdGVtcyBEaWdpdGFsIEltYWdpbmcAMjAwOToxMToyMiAxMDoxMjo0NgAFAACQBwAEAAAA 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<002e01ca682b$c42ac460$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <00b301ca6915$df7b7440$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <20091120083258.C0711F3863@smtps02.kuleuven.be> <003001ca69dd$54c906f0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:54:48 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 QRSS20 (and WE2XGR/6) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01CA6A99.0B7F19A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01CA6A99.0B7F19A0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Jay, Nicolas, Victor, LF, Only a trace. 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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:01:23 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <1043378010.1258326083.160784844.95853@mcgi39.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Who is it? 507.300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi LF! What is a signal we can see around 507.300 kHz onto G4WGT grabber now? Who is it? Too many times I can see a CW-like trace on that freq every night. Between 507.3 and 507.4 are visible now. -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da01.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDA011-a7e4b051c6dcb; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:23:01 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA076-a7e4b051c6dcb; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:22:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NB452-0007Vs-Vu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:17:36 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NB44z-0007Vj-SE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:17:34 +0000 Received: from smtp824.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.234]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NB44w-0000Bi-0m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:17:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 42317 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2009 10:17:24 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=vqqFjqjzJaXayBdfg4ydetL4IR/WOFbgoDWeVgdXaCUQCPkcNTGT+IQBOqj1Z5f2vBDvjvje14DQGpu5Fd1MsjX91+dfdiKM5zqftgj7QykPtOhk0qxALZoML3th58stFnC6m7sGUKVaVFwUEr2JBq/lpF1q4qMY7uI+BUae1Nc= ; Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.180.25.12 with login) by smtp824.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Nov 2009 10:17:24 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: qKIhhNCswBB2TTHr2BORWcGGR2mpopxhCcunGIxpCKQYiG07Q7UOhNo- X-YMail-OSG: lhPte9wVM1lnfiEO_qw0m4NxQhHzpqj_uPzv_aBCRGP8h.lO6oJBSaBdlh80QxvQVvax82186kyGrmk3H3FZCjNc84cDRKVsYau.bibh1JvaOelTq2.WmSazce2wMpZtYgIymBLUejrazztDy.EsgG.B_BGPJR05jWneRYeBeJP8SYndT5fUP9jBEOpJ8.WhLCzx42831CcS8d2nMryeF.7F1pfJx1X_fc7JGAj3h5AQ9j4c1HyVsCD984gdcg8wx88T7ycbCgc4upq_xU.iuZ5I1BBugFmv5KWnyke3dcD39TRTVa6eRvGupUbBVlNJMl0kjw-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <515CB1E53A2D4E02BBAB7B9E5E9CC0E8@JimPC> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <017801ca66fb$0bf91c60$0517aac0@jimdesk> <20091118085815.7282031E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <02ac01ca6832$39e82890$0517aac0@jimdesk> In-Reply-To: <02ac01ca6832$39e82890$0517aac0@jimdesk> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:17:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Rik, Pete, Jim, LF Group, I don't doubt that supply ripple to the PA could produce unwanted sidebands on a signal, but there are a couple of reasons why I don't think this is so in the case of G7NKS's signal: 1) The sidebands are spaced at +/-50Hz, 150Hz, while one would expect 100Hz and multiples due to power supply ripple - this would require a very odd ripple waveform, and at least several percent ripple, to get sidebands at -30dB as they are. 2) The sidebands on G7NKS's transmitted signal are mirrored by the apparent sidebands on signals received at G7NKS, for example: G7NKS received at M0BMU: 2009-11-15 17:50 G7NKS 0.503802 -27 -1 IO92ub 0.02 M0BMU IO91vr 38 171 2009-11-15 17:50 G7NKS 0.503852 +5 -1 IO92ub 0.02 M0BMU IO91vr 38 171 2009-11-15 17:50 G7NKS 0.503902 -25 -1 IO92ub 0.02 M0BMU IO91vr 38 171 M0BMU received at G7NKS: 2009-11-02 08:00 M0BMU 0.503899 -19 -1 IO91vr 2 G7NKS IO92ub 38 351 2009-11-02 08:00 M0BMU 0.503948 +12 -1 IO91vr 2 G7NKS IO92ub 38 351 2009-11-02 08:00 M0BMU 0.503998 -18 -1 IO91vr 2 G7NKS IO92ub 38 351 The apparent sideband levels and frequency offsets are virtually the same, but the PA can hardly be responsible for the sidebands on the received signal, and even if supply ripple was causing the problem on receive in some other way, it is remarkable that the relative levels are virtually the same. So I think Jim's problem must be being caused by a component of his system that is common to both TX and RX. Overheating of the PA, etc. is a different issue. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Cowburn" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 9:33 AM Subject: RE: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands > Hi Rik > > That's exactly what mine are. I think it's a mixture of stretching the Pa > on the IC735 so its at the edge of its envelope (the radio equivalent of a > stick shaker or stall horn on a plane!) and also RF leakage and mains > leakage into the soundcard system on the Dell lappy. It's only apparent > on > Rx and Tx of strong/local signals where the fundamental is so high (>0db) > that the first side lobes at -30dB are still within WSPR capture range. > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de07.mx.aol.com (rly-de07.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.143]) by air-de06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE063-4eb4b07c6f4223; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:55:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE074-4eb4b07c6f4223; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:54:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBnau-00048o-7r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:53:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBnat-00048f-MN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:53:31 +0000 Received: from col0-omc1-s14.col0.hotmail.com ([65.55.34.24]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBnar-00085h-12 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:53:31 +0000 Received: from COL122-W23 ([65.55.34.7]) by col0-omc1-s14.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 21 Nov 2009 02:53:20 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:53:20 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000f01ca6a92$b47052b0$0201a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> References: <000f01ca6a92$b47052b0$0201a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Nov 2009 10:53:20.0530 (UTC) FILETIME=[D6D46F20:01CA6A98] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_6be96d4d-a665-43f7-a42a-1ea661728c05_" Subject: RE: LF: f8boj G3xdv qso X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_6be96d4d-a665-43f7-a42a-1ea661728c05_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Claude, Mike and LF! Both, F8BOJ and G3XDV signals are nice. I am watching this QSO. Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS=20 From: f8boj@club-internet.fr To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:09:25 +0100 Subject: LF: f8boj G3xdv qso Hello Mick and LF good morning ...solid copy=20 ur O no probleme many thanks for the First qso=20 Claude F8boj JN16WA =20 _________________________________________________________________ Nov=E1 Windows 7: Kter=FD po=E8=EDta=E8 je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD? Dal=B9= =ED informace. http://windows.microsoft.com/shop=3D --_6be96d4d-a665-43f7-a42a-1ea661728c05_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Claude, Mike and LF!
Both, F8BOJ and G3XDV signals are nice. I am= watching this QSO.

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

From: f8boj@club-internet.fr
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgDate: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:09:25 +0100
Subject: LF: f8boj G3xdv qso
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Hello Mick and LF
good morning ...solid copy
ur O no probleme
many thanks for the First qso =
Claude F8boj JN16WA
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Windows 7: Kter=FD po=E8=EDta=E8 je pro v= =E1s ten prav=FD? Dal=B9=ED informace. =3D --_6be96d4d-a665-43f7-a42a-1ea661728c05_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc09.mx.aol.com (rly-mc09.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.93]) by air-mc08.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMC084-d974b0aea1854; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:01:46 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC097-d974b0aea1854; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:01:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCf4Q-0002Ci-Im for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:59:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCf4Q-0002CZ-7Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:59:34 +0000 Received: from mail-yx0-f203.google.com ([209.85.210.203]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCf4P-00055a-GL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m226.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) WD2XGJ will be off tonight. -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (rly-ma04.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.48]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA024-89f4afded6a260; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:36:30 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA041-89f4afded6a260; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:36:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N95fO-0006S3-1V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:34:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N95fN-0006Ru-GZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:34:57 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N95fM-0001np-S9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:34:57 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.14] (unknown [192.168.1.14]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17AF73B4D8 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:34:56 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4AFDED1F.1020803@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:34:55 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <00df01ca6488$e9244a80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <00df01ca6488$e9244a80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: PIRATES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) mal hamilton wrote: > whereas the other MF allocation 160 metres is > orderly and sensibly regulated using in the main CW and SSB. Really! Done much listening to 160m recently? Orderly!? I think not.... Mainly SSB and CW? I know not..... I've heard much Data mode stuff, some AM, some Hellschreiber, SSTV, all life is here..... Even some DX in WSPR mode - in broad daylight from the West Coast of the USA 2009-11-11 12:54 WA7KGX CN58no 7108km But ORDERLY... not on your life! From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df03.mx.aol.com (rly-df03.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.16]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF062-53e4b0849721e9; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:11:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF037-53e4b0849721e9; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:11:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBwHp-0001SO-31 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:10:25 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBwHo-0001SE-Lz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:10:24 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBwHm-0002kx-Q9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:10:24 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7B5151C001 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:10:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9271031E702 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:10:12 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id 80F9518056; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:10:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from 62.8-180-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (62.8-180-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [91.180.8.62]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:10:12 +0100 Message-ID: <20091121211012.fehyrbxl4400ckc8@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:10:12 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <4B04EADA.4090707@telus.net> <57a24ca70911190525s5bbf2768gcfe5e7150eb8f784@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 91.180.8.62 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: temporary grabber Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) > In the mean time, VX9MRC is presently on 507.77 kHz transmitting QRSS10 Hello Joe, I have set up a temporary 507.77 kHz grabber at http://www.strobbe.eu/argo/argo.jpg 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC031-b224af300b0a7; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:43:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC056-b224af300b0a7; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:43:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N65PP-0002Kk-8z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:42:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N65PO-0002Kb-Tt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:42:02 +0000 Received: from mx39.mail.ru ([94.100.176.53]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N65OB-0005cK-BV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:40:48 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=27180 helo=EFREMOV) by mx39.mail.ru with asmtp id 1N65PH-000LWm-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:41:55 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <003001ca5e36$dbf51f40$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: References: <254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C6EE3533@exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net> <4AF2BCDD.3090606@inext.at> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:41:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: New svc-station? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello LF'ers, Has this morning paid attention to a signal on frequency 137.426 khz. Argo in 3s: http://rn3agc.msk.ru/filez/091105-svcstn-3.jpg Argo in cw: http://rn3agc.msk.ru/filez/091105-svcstn-cw-2.jpg Somebody hears/sees it? 73 Andrey From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (rly-mf05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.175]) by air-mf07.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMF074-95b4b12465dd9; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 05:01:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF051-95b4b12465dd9; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 05:01:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEgZe-00005g-MI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:00:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEgZe-00005X-As for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:00:10 +0000 Received: from out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.243]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEgZd-0001R9-Qk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:00:10 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai8FALzUEUtZ8fF2/2dsb2JhbACCJiuGToR+BsRwhDEEgXI X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,307,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="264921962" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([89.241.241.118]) by out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 29 Nov 2009 10:00:02 +0000 Message-ID: <002201ca70da$b4515150$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 09:59:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 137 acty Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001F_01CA70DA.B40E7BF0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01CA70DA.B40E7BF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Observed last evening EW6 and OE5 stns CQ, good O copy qrs3 on 137.7 de G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01CA70DA.B40E7BF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Observed last evening
EW6 and OE5 stns CQ, good O copy qrs3= on=20 137.7
de G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_001F_01CA70DA.B40E7BF0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (rly-ma03.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.47]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA043-89b4af7d891119; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:53:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA035-89b4af7d891119; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:53:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7PzJ-00030L-AN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:52:37 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7PzI-00030C-Pf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:52:36 +0000 Received: from smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com ([195.200.78.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7PzF-00018d-TI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:52:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 30709 invoked by uid 507); 9 Nov 2009 09:52:20 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO JR) (john.rabson@numeo.fr@217.67.155.178) by smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com with SMTP; 9 Nov 2009 09:52:20 +0100 Message-ID: <200911090952240295.1602796A@smtp2.numeo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:52:24 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Canada on 600m Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Just found this: http://www.rac.ca/en/news/bulletins/2009/34/ John Rabson F5VLF 58800 Cervon France JN17vg From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com (rly-md01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.139]) by air-md06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD063-8e24b006a745f; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:54:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD012-8e24b006a745f; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:54:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9m63-0001jz-Hx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:53:19 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9m63-0001jq-61 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:53:19 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9m61-0001UW-PF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:53:19 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.6] (opc1.twatt.home [192.168.1.6]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id C53EF3B512 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:53:16 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4B006A3C.9030406@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:53:16 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000a01ca65ec$16f199e0$6402a8c0@e7010> <003e01ca662a$1592c400$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <001601ca6633$5f46ef50$6402a8c0@e7010> In-Reply-To: <001601ca6633$5f46ef50$6402a8c0@e7010> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: DI2AG WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Walter, Nice strong signal in Shetland: 20:48 DI2AG 0.505089 -13 0 JN59no 0.5 GM4SLV IP90gg 1428km only! Cheers, John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da08.mx.aol.com (rly-da08.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.82]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA073-a824afafc18da; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:02:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA082-a824afafc18da; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:02:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8HUT-0003e0-Rl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:00:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8HUT-0003dr-Ej for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:00:21 +0000 Received: from out1.ip09ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.245]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8HTj-0007ec-EM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:59:38 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtYEAI2K+kpOlAv5/2dsb2JhbACCJiyBaYtmzW2EPASBaw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,724,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="210243422" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.11.249]) by out1.ip09ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 11 Nov 2009 18:00:04 +0000 Message-ID: <00a001ca62f8$cf2b66e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:00:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Sm6BHZ into KL7 just a couple of mins ago... Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009D_01CA62F8.CEF49F70" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_009D_01CA62F8.CEF49F70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Laurence=20 Can u read my sig qrs3 502.57=20 now CQ =20 mal/g3kev cc----- Original Message -----=20 From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 4:56 PM Subject: LF: Sm6BHZ into KL7 just a couple of mins ago... 091111 1644 2 -29 -0.4 0.503925 SM6BHZ JO57 40 0 5938= 0 =20 Delighted over a pretty rough path at times and higher than normal= QRN. =20 Thanks for the early start Gus =20 Laurence WE2XpQ KL 1 x bp51ip Wasilla Palmer Alaska K9AY 2 loops Omni R75 =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------- Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. Si= gn up now.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_009D_01CA62F8.CEF49F70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Laurence
Can u read my sig qrs3 502.57
now CQ   
 
mal/g3kev
 
cc----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, November 11,= 2009 4:56=20 PM
Subject: LF: Sm6BHZ into KL7= just a=20 couple of mins ago...

091111 1644   2 -29 -0.4   0.5039= 25 =20 SM6BHZ JO57 40         = 0 =20 5938    0
 
Delighted over a pretty rough= path at=20 times and higher than normal QRN.
 
Thanks for the early= start=20 Gus
 
Laurence WE2XpQ  KL 1 x
bp51ip Wasilla= Palmer=20 Alaska
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------=_NextPart_000_009D_01CA62F8.CEF49F70-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (rly-mf03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.173]) by air-mf01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF014-94b4afb4d3b176; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:48:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF031-94b4afb4d3b176; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:48:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8MuC-0004vT-9R for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:47:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8MuB-0004vK-T7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:47:15 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8MtV-0001RV-Tt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:46:34 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so1688661bwz.4 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:47:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=B3TR3K2TWpDwNoBYI2gY4n0nBgYwSIrIEOWrKpl5l2I=; b=f1jA1cTmbmIoatTViwzHZP5RSy35m5TMKXFcf2S9CmOYYrOGaHUiI1EhQBCAUSSj+1 dICnI/AhTNeLimv12VllV1EmjdmN+O897PhWTR74CoWwH906eGA8K5Xn3DKK+a1bK7NW L7TveXLCiiQRBtlY739YgCmZFFPJUHqPOF//A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=EFcbjr7sxt58ZhRwt8JnoXOpl6T9aDFzBtS85RtEIyB+7cwxO9yS7Gt0y+e+xwj3V0 c951P3lxSCdchUoh741Qe34ehMcbiXUEhQFCUBHo3qFghLVI22IWD5dXBQ/7olp7BlZK V1IIAtsORe/To5SLTyW+TcioVnZaQtlmkEOM8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.93.2 with SMTP id k2mr661670wef.210.1257983228276; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:47:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4AFB477C.5090604@sighthound.demon.co.uk> References: <4AFB477C.5090604@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:47:08 +0000 Message-ID: <8bf118410911111547u2ade4af3g6bd4b9c74e413648@mail.gmail.com> From: Dave Pick To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d7e3257470a00478210b8e X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d248.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0016e6d7e3257470a00478210b8e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'd noticed that, and checked my TX for hum! Dave. 2009/11/11 John P-G > Jim. LF > > It looks like G7NKS has a 50/100Hz problem on the audio - both in TX and RX > directions - there are up to 3 decodes by Jim of a single station (eg > G3YXM), spaced by 50 & 100Hz and I see also that M0BMU is also reporting > multiple decodes of G7NKS with the same 50/100Hz spacing. > > Jim, have you some mains hum affecting the audio in/out of the PC? > > Cheers, > > John > GM4SLV > > > -- G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK --0016e6d7e3257470a00478210b8e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'd noticed that, and checked my TX for hum!

Dave.

2009/11/11 John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
Jim. LF

It looks like G7NKS has a 50/100Hz problem on the audio - both in TX and= RX directions - there are up to 3 decodes by Jim of a single station (eg= G3YXM), spaced by 50 & 100Hz and I see also that M0BMU is also report= ing multiple decodes of G7NKS with the same 50/100Hz spacing.

Jim, have you some mains hum affecting the audio in/out of the PC?

Cheers,

John
GM4SLV





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--0016e6d7e3257470a00478210b8e-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de07.mx.aol.com (rly-de07.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.143]) by air-de03.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDE031-4ed4b0fe8901bb; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 09:56:44 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE076-4ed4b0fe8901bb; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 09:56:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NE2DM-0005Ji-TS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:54:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NE2DM-0005JZ-Hl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:54:28 +0000 Received: from psmtp30.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NE2DL-0000v4-Po for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:54:28 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp30.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KTR006GWW2A32@psmtp30.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:54:10 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:53:35 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: capt who 27-11 04-45 gmt.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_tPfEnMYaUhqOz9YvjkzK9g)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --Boundary_(ID_tPfEnMYaUhqOz9YvjkzK9g) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_0atVvjSsF8l3+sY/AeZIzg)" --Boundary_(ID_0atVvjSsF8l3+sY/AeZIzg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi LF, capture who? time 04:45 gmt. henny pa3cpm Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: capt who 27-11 04-45 gmt.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. --Boundary_(ID_0atVvjSsF8l3+sY/AeZIzg) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Hi LF,
capture who? time 04:45 gmt.
henny pa3cpm
 
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NC0SL-0003P6-7Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:37:33 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2202.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9DC147000084 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:37:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (12.229.197-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.197.229.12]) by msfrf2202.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 3735B7000081 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:37:23 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091122003723226.3735B7000081@msfrf2202.sfr.fr Message-ID: <000601ca6b0b$f5018410$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:37:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091121-1, 21/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: info F8boj beacon 137776.16hz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01CA6B14.56641D00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01CA6B14.56641D00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HI ALL LF Beacon is open 137776.16hz qrss60..."BOJ" Claude F8boj JN16WA ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01CA6B14.56641D00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
HI ALL LF
Beacon is open 137776.16hz=20 qrss60..."BOJ"
 
Claude F8boj JN16WA
------=_NextPart_000_0003_01CA6B14.56641D00-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD083-b6d4b0863943ab; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:03:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD037-b6d4b0863943ab; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:03:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBy1q-0003Lr-28 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:02:02 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBy1p-0003Li-K2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:02:01 +0000 Received: from nina.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.76]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBy1o-0002OZ-Ld for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:02:01 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by nina.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id nALM1rEu006402 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:31:53 -0330 Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:31:53 -0330 (NST) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <1f0624b90911211347o1e065203o6a2d769222f770b7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <4B04EADA.4090707@telus.net> <57a24ca70911190525s5bbf2768gcfe5e7150eb8f784@mail.gmail.com> <20091121211012.fehyrbxl4400ckc8@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <1f0624b90911211347o1e065203o6a2d769222f770b7@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: temporary grabber Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Many thank, Gary. Actually, I've been using your grabber for weeks. Very useful! 73 Joe On Sat, 21 Nov 2009, Gary - G4WGT wrote: > Hi Joe, > > Copy here in NW UK also at 2142utc. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT > > > 2009/11/21 > >> Thanks, Rik. >> >> It appears as the signals are there already. >> >> 73 >> Joe >> >> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009, Rik Strobbe wrote: >> >> In the mean time, VX9MRC is presently on 507.77 kHz transmitting QRSS10 >>>> >>> >>> Hello Joe, >>> >>> I have set up a temporary 507.77 kHz grabber at >>> http://www.strobbe.eu/argo/argo.jpg >>> >>> 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >>> >>> >> > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME104-9d44af2a09232e; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:53:48 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME088-9d44af2a09232e; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:53:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N5z10-0000hO-0K for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:52:26 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N5z0z-0000hF-FJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:52:25 +0000 Received: from psmtp12.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.24]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N5z0x-00059i-RR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:52:25 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp12.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KSM000NWRF3D2@psmtp12.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:52:16 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:51:23 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <36F0AC319F8D4DA2B15968DBEB9CDEBD@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: BOJ 04-11.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_UQVzQy09YVGgv/GkWOMpuw)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_UQVzQy09YVGgv/GkWOMpuw) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_iOvWEjgWCHIEUGubkNWkSA)" --Boundary_(ID_iOvWEjgWCHIEUGubkNWkSA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi LF, Capture BOJ, Henny pa3cpm best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: BOJ 04-11.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. --Boundary_(ID_iOvWEjgWCHIEUGubkNWkSA) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Hi LF,
Capture BOJ,
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Mike Looked for a couple hours but no joy. Storms off the atlantic coast causing significant static. All's quiet with the rx antenna switched to the west. Not a good night for T/A. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Dennison" To: Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 12:09 PM Subject: LF: Test 136.318 >I am testing this evening by sending 'X' at QRSS120 on 136.3180kHz. > If all goes well I will transmit until about 2230UTC. This is a > preliminary soak test prior to some overnight transmissions later in > the week. > > Thanks to F5VLF for the report on my QRSS60 transmission earlier. > > Mike, G3XDV > ========== > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC013-b3a4aed52488d; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 04:18:15 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC086-b3a4aed52488d; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 04:18:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N4WYc-0002w8-Ae for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 09:17:06 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N4WYb-0002vz-Fp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 09:17:05 +0000 Received: from mx02.tut.by ([195.137.160.44] helo=tut.by) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N4WYN-0005jL-9c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 09:16:53 +0000 Received: from [195.137.160.40] (HELO cluster-ldap.tutby.com) by tut.by (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.1) with SMTP id 482111492 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 11:16:46 +0200 X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: ew6gb@tut.by X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 10525 [Nov 01 2009] X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Rate: 0 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0284], KAS30/Release Received: from [93.85.194.182] (account ew6gb@tut.by HELO [93.85.194.182]) by cluster-ldap.tutby.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.12) with ESMTPA id 37175394 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 11:16:49 +0200 Message-ID: <4AED5201.5060006@tut.by> Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 11:16:49 +0200 From: Andrej User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: What is this?? [137 khz] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) GA Dave, LF > Curious UNID signal centred on 137.705 kHz, captured at 2130, but has been coming and goinf for several hours. U I thiught that it might have been local to me, but I see it on Markus's grabber too. See upper 2 lines. Full message was: OH5UFO LOC KP11OO TEST Reino was audible in KO45CN last evening. 73! EW6GB From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me10.mx.aol.com (rly-me10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.44]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME054-9e14b092f7a1fa; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:33:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME105-9e14b092f7a1fa; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:32:59 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCBbo-0002lr-4M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:32:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCBbn-0002li-Ma for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:32:03 +0000 Received: from nina.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.76]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCBbm-0003rW-Lg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:32:03 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by nina.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id nAMCVtlb004665 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:01:55 -0330 Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:01:55 -0330 (NST) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: VX9MRC_in_OK Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-1719232024-856287357-1258893115=:31205" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ---1719232024-856287357-1258893115=:31205 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Hi Lubos, The captures, frequency and element lengths all match and the TX was active at the time of your reception. I am pleased to confirm your reception! 73 Joe On Sun, 22 Nov 2009, Lubos OK2BVG wrote: > > Hello Joe, LF! > I tried to receive on 507.775kHz and I was successfull - see captures.= I think, it might be the first report of MRC=B4s signal in OK, so I am ve= ry pleased (Can you confirm it, Joe?). I will be ready next night as well. > > Aerial: LF-Amrad (home made) > RX: SPM-30 with selective preamplifier (home made) > > 73! > > Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows 7: Zjedodu=B9te si ka=BEdodenn=ED =FAkoly. Kter=FD po=E8=EDta=E8= je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD? > http://windows.microsoft.com/shop ---1719232024-856287357-1258893115=:31205-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v125.8) with ESMTP id MAILINMG032-9fa4afad8d03c1; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:31:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG024-9fa4afad8d03c1; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:31:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8F9W-0002v8-9Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:30:34 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8F9V-0002uz-UB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:30:33 +0000 Received: from ham2.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.16.179] ident=postfix) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8F9R-0003ku-3q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:30:33 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5956A9EA83 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:30:28 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at ham2.cc.fer.hr Received: from ham2.cc.fer.hr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ham2.cc.fer.hr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XGh77ctFVdeW for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:30:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from 9a0tcp.ampr.org (ham1.cc.fer.hr [161.53.16.178]) by ham2.cc.fer.hr (Postfix) with SMTP id 1FEAA9EA82 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:30:28 +0100 (CET) X-BBS-Msg-Type: P Date: Wed, 11 Nov 09 16:20:48 +0100 Message-Id: <2371_9A0TCP@hamradio> From: yo2is@9a0tcp.ampr.org (Szigy) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: st OE-YO on 137 KHz... X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit rom: YO2IS Pleased to be back in the VLF trafic, last night we completed a nice QRSS3 QSO with OE5ODL, Ossy had a solid signal on my K9AY loop with the PA0RDT preamp and a VLF/14 MHz conv. into IC-7000 and Argo 1.34 on a 400 MHz w.98se machine. Am glad to run skeds, QRG 137.763 KHz 73 Szigy. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD082-8f64af6bd2f33d; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:44:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD036-8f64af6bd2f33d; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:44:33 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7772-00066e-Je for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:43:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7772-00066V-4w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:43:20 +0000 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.186]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7763-0008Qe-Dp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:42:20 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.64] (188-221-89-85.zone12.bethere.co.uk [188.221.89.85]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MZysF-1MqOmF2r6N-00LVHF; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:43:12 +0100 From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:43:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4AF6BCE7.28946.168E131@dave.davesergeant.com> In-reply-to: <019f01ca6061$34a80040$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <019f01ca6061$34a80040$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.51) Content-description: Mail message body X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/sNrarIMdTIofkrGLy0JSZG3b5TRMnqBWXUVV QnXlDi6XafQmepNIRpJLU7RUFtvduJO/Q7+S0ZnseiIEUDvh5N dKcFppdtbonmGYvG2VxQeyziC7oXi0C X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WSPR Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 On 8 Nov 2009 at 10:49, mal hamilton wrote: > WSPR is like a LAZY MAN using a WALKING STICK !!!!!! > G3KEV > Since I have now changed my vertical to a 160m one and won't be on 500kHz until the spring I shall now be unsubscribing from this list for the time being. 73 Dave G3YMC http://www.davesergeant.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg12.mx.aol.com (rly-dg12.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.96]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG074-60e4af48c9e39c; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:53:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG125-60e4af48c9e39c; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:52:48 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6Vma-0006PI-To for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:51:44 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6Vma-0006P9-81 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:51:44 +0000 Received: from mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.47]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6VmW-00058P-V8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:51:43 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.1]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091106205135.OLQZ17029.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 20:51:35 +0000 Received: from [86.27.93.99] (helo=jimdesk) by know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6VmR-0001eD-3y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:51:35 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: References: <9afca2640911060845r17eb75daracad4f874c3a1c9c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 20:51:33 -0000 Message-ID: <001e01ca5f22$ec89c8a0$0617aac0@jimdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <9afca2640911060845r17eb75daracad4f874c3a1c9c@mail.gmail.com> Thread-Index: AcpfANmrJD5svWuVTNimu9mgaO/I+QAIOdUg X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=yRNOrxR5oUYA:10 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=fnYqA7hvAAAA:8 a=j6Q1dnSHAAAA:8 a=1XLbTVPQbCnreGn2TE0A:9 a=GPhipbhWb2RzmY3oCdcA:7 a=BjsLRpkuF1Pg2McoB6RUtezPdMUA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=gA6IeH5FQcgA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 a=nokx4-U_Vn_8P93Y:21 a=kEQlG8njoTSnsovZ:21 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=G0SVe0yW0fni6X1cu5IA:7 a=2kdb_T4Wx2JiaKVlTCs11zGO-sQA:4 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: G3XBM: 500kHz ERP increased by 6dB - WSPR reports please Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001F_01CA5F22.EC89C8A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01CA5F22.EC89C8A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Roger! Well done! You are booming into Biggleswade! You used to be in the -20db and below zone now its -11 and better. Uber QRO and you make me look very QRPp!! My problem is down to lack of vertical height (5.5M) and lousy earth (50 ohm at a guesstimate). I'm going to ask Santa for 2 sets of swaged poles to give me 40' height and then run a lot more earths and radials out. With that I calculate I can go from about 0.1% eff up to 2% and get abt 500mW erp. With best regards Jim Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Roger Lapthorn Sent: 06 November 2009 16:46 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: G3XBM: 500kHz ERP increased by 6dB - WSPR reports please Today I modified my 500kHz antenna. The 28MHz halo up at the top of the 5-6m vertical section (which was the coax feed to the 28MHz halo) was removed and replaced by a spiral inductance/ top capacity hat consisting of around around 8 "spiralling in" turns in the space occupied by the original halo. Seeing my initial reports from M0BMU I am some 5-6dB stronger than I was before, I guess because more of the antenna current is in the vertical section. The measured antenna current is not much different though. Please listen for me on 500kHz WSPR and let me know if I am now stronger than before. 73s Roger G3XBM -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01CA5F22.EC89C8A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01CA5F22.EC89C8A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB052-ad74af6c49e2a7; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:16:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB075-ad74af6c49e2a7; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:16:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N77bx-0006E0-Kr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:15:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N77bx-0006Dr-2A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) My WSPR 0.2W ERP signal was copied by GM0LLJ (774km) at 12:58 UTC 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDB084-ae24b0c57362f7; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:59:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB088-ae24b0c57362f7; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:59:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ND3Ov-0007hj-6g for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:58:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ND3Ou-0007ha-NU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:58:20 +0000 Received: from impaqm5.telefonica.net ([213.4.138.5]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ND3Ot-0004Km-9c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:58:20 +0000 Received: from IMPmailhost2.adm.correo ([10.20.102.39]) by IMPaqm5.telefonica.net with bizsmtp id 962U1d00w0r0BT63R9yH2j; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:58:17 +0100 Received: from PC2 ([88.24.228.214]) by IMPmailhost2.adm.correo with BIZ IMP id 99yG1d00j4eB4dk1i9yHZZ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:58:17 +0100 X-TE-authinfo: authemail="JPRADOES$telefonica.net" |auth_email="JPRADOES@telefonica.net" X-TE-AcuTerraCos: auth_cuTerraCos="cosuitneta01" Message-ID: <3D48C18C8EEF43B7B5A27EBA3AD28E6D@PC2> From: "Jose Manuel" To: References: <774E21EDD9DB4D8292615A728F4050AF@AGB> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:58:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: STANAG .. What software is this showing ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002A_01CA6D59.9338A380" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_60_70, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01CA6D59.9338A380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable SkySweeper http://www.pervisell.com/ham/skysweeper/ Best regards de Jos=E9, EA1PX ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:42 PM Subject: LF: STANAG .. What software is this showing ?? STANAG .. What software is this showing ?? tnx - G ..=20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DxUeTE21RUMM ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01CA6D59.9338A380 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Best regards de Jos=E9, EA1PX<= /DIV>
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Graham
Sent: Tuesday, November 24,= 2009 10:42=20 PM
Subject: LF: STANAG .. What= software is=20 this showing ??

STANAG .. What software is this&nbs= p; showing=20 ??
 
tnx - G ..
 
 


------=_NextPart_000_002A_01CA6D59.9338A380-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc03.mx.aol.com (rly-mc03.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.87]) by air-mc03.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMC034-d614b12c379c3; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:55:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC031-d614b12c379c3; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:54:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEou8-00039i-02 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:53:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEou7-00039Z-F5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:53:51 +0000 Received: from n21.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.160]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEou6-00045H-VI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:53:51 +0000 Received: from [68.142.200.226] by n21.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2009 18:53:44 -0000 Received: from [68.142.201.250] by t7.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2009 18:53:44 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp411.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2009 18:53:44 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 457818.97727.bm@omp411.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 65374 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2009 18:53:44 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=1Qbvskv+zdEkpZrAJPH1hk/woGY5pmMi7m7AFTwnQhA4f6N19MtMtbuxYBlbeLCx+5E+nX9R+7e+BMwN7iwQsuPMzXpvZWfh3Q/XcJPX0b+Rc02oAR3IXgIOJDTEpGdFOiZWBvPPmGpxuTVT/k1fMDIpWFZ8P1oWdnnGWK2Z6Eo= ; Received: from host86-138-92-60.range86-138.btcentralplus.com (ken.h.wright@86.138.92.60 with login) by smtp135.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2009 10:53:43 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: 9Y6mUHuswBAgnrOsukIiNdFDf95uy_Dz34nY1hlg2liKgYD952sjbg-- X-YMail-OSG: 7LqH6hsVM1nIyFNRAPvGeKjAQ4UP3GqrB37voizjxZLKqbzWcuFRqfUo7UkcEaiQ76xFE7aAbWqob9IXvTqMz3M0hrjZuaSEIWj2fGj0HZ.OVo5jXQtg14U_oQvxS_v5asd5P3W8UWMWkG_oRQrYA8zxkf.LgWmJVtQFCZACRCbKXz1NmNlr56.GmGfMqJTYtFSSoeOzCQ2cpqeWFJDxw_GqRGKWayP0aWovrX4XZB2UuqP7JwbscOa5JPBluVA6b2qI5skfabe4WBXKFjHvgbT0UhnNVHkHI_VcKFdLgR0.tfenu1XgooJlCVr.p72LdzP1PMaHaO74x9Zz0eyj_hGeyUE6iKI- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <9F3AD1B305084F15AA47A8061538AD5F@lindavideo> From: "Ken" To: References: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AA6D@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:53:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: Re: AW: 4kv diode Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01CA7125.44A19810" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01CA7125.44A19810 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1258" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Stefan. Thanks Stefan, do you have a source for either the BV8 or the BV16?,= I have been unable to find one. 73 Ken M0KHW ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 6:05 PM Subject: LF: AW: 4kv diode=20 Hi Ken,=20 My hint is to try a BV8 Diode. It is able to take 500mA. On my work,= I have good experiences with the BV16, the 16kV Version.=20 Each one costs abt 1=80. Three in parallel, thermal coupled, should= be no problem at all. And: there=B4s no need for extra cooling! 73, Stefan=20 -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@= blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Ken Gesendet: Sonntag, 29. November 2009 12:05 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: 4kv diode=20 Hello All. I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or equivalent diode, BY4 4kv @ 1A,= BY6 6kv @ 1A, I have searched the web and looked in Farnell, any ide= as please. 73. Ken M0KHW =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01CA7125.44A19810 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1258" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Stefan.
Thanks Stefan, do you have a source= for either the=20 BV8 or the BV16?, I have been unable to find one.
 
73
Ken
M0KHW
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 20= 09 6:05=20 PM
Subject: LF: AW: 4kv diode

Hi Ken,=20

My hint is=20 to try a BV8 Diode. It is able to take 500mA. On my work, I have goo= d=20 experiences with the BV16, the 16kV Version.

Each one=20 costs abt 1=80. Three in parallel, thermal coupled, should be no pro= blem at all.=20 And: there=B4s no need for extra cooling!

 

73, Stefan=20

 

-= ----Urspr=FCngliche=20 Nachricht-----
Von: owner-rsg= b_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Ken
Gesendet: Sonntag, 29. November 2009= =20 12:05
An:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: 4kv diode

 

Hel= lo All.

I= am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or=20 equivalent diode, BY4   4kv @ 1A, BY6  6kv @ 1A, I ha= ve=20 searched the web and looked in Farnell, any ideas=20 please.

 

73.=

Ken=

 

M0K= HW   

= ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01CA7125.44A19810-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com (rly-md01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.139]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD102-8e44b09e0f2267; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:10:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD014-8e44b09e0f2267; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:10:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCNQR-00070d-1b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:09:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCNQQ-00070U-Bz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:09:06 +0000 Received: from smtp831.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.189.245]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCNQP-00076N-NJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:09:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 71520 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2009 01:09:00 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=Rkvv5jpnHsDJ0FUU28cKo6NPIT48Db73rnsrtTcH6WCl/pFSlh6cU9QzeTtKHXBYkCZiulIWuL+4ubr8m5BFN9dogle2nSQ17Wo3thFwh9UUT44Q69j53dYdTZKT6riw5PUAZGiFIzQXHyr6gen8/MqJdMEMjkPEb8ZEKAtNbFc= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@213.122.2.44 with login) by smtp831.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Nov 2009 01:08:59 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: KHdpK2OswBBXlm4uxknbEiS4uYdJoGknHN90u4K8__lTafnafZg- X-YMail-OSG: QDldvMIVM1lW4zCkMeEpFI_jJ8Wy6hAxorIWz.oyDasecNe9sgMuKlH3nL9rr.LPZaJ1kUG08QZmgT4TPkhx_XCuyV8.xt9cv3fC8vn35.mIvl1PhmlMRXvi9hQjNWeE1bYMYxM6UgWx8PBqB1OPggPhg.lFZxaa2YO0GCIvBBhngzrJtW5x6iaTeWH7rLrjEZ7ZKklfh3vEdB7iqH2juJb6Kwhx3V0Hx4toVijCQrKkW4Hw3g3Z_ekEWAWB81ulQvltvFYAh0byZzDMgvwjWNDgYaUTH.cpaT9paEdMSUrsOVsBe5dAW3_DA0K50Vb9mwQTcxJBMVsIfMTVYb4- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <006101ca6bd9$9ab3cb70$0900a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <4B09D502.8030200@toya.net.pl> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:09:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: N-turn TX Loop Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Piotr I think Laurence KL1X had 2 turns in Oklahoma.(about 100m periphery) I think there are other loss problems as you increase the turns. Jim M0BMU is the expert on that. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Piotr MÅ‚ynarski" To: Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 12:19 AM Subject: LF: N-turn TX Loop > Dear LF group, > I would like to put for your consideration the issue of > multi-turn transmitting loops. Have you ever done such an experiment on > LF ? > This sunday evening i decided to do some simple math and it turns out > that such a N-turn TX loop should work ( at least on the paper) > The radiation resistance is proportional to the square of so called > "effective > height" and this last term can be easily derived for a loop i.e. it is > equal to > 2*pi*A*N/lambda where A denotes area closed by a loop a N is the number > of turns > so the radiation resistance for a single turn loop reads as > 320*pi^4*A^2/lambda^4 > For the N-turns the radiation resistance obtained for a single turn is > multiplied > by N^2. Ok, the R (ac) is increased as we increase N but this is linear > with respect to N > and therefore we should have gain in the radiated power. > (there is an implicit assumption made: the loop is "small" i.e. the > current is constant) > > i did some calculations: assumed TX power ( and later, perfect match to > the loop) 200 Watt > environmental loss: 1.5 Ohm, diameter of the wire d = 3 mm, rectangular > shape of the loop > i.e 10 meters by 20 meters ( less optimal than square or circle ) > so A = 200 sq.m For N =1 (classical tx loop) we get R(AC) = 0.62 Ohm > ( Rac formula taken from ARRL Antenna Handbook, f = 137.7kHz) > radiation resistance RRAD = 55.5 microOhm, total R loss = 2.12 Ohm, > efficiency is 0.0026% and radiated pwr 5.2 miliWatts, I = 9.7 Amp. > Next, I took N =3 so the wire length is changed from 60 meters to 180, > everything else was kept the same and now one gets: R(ac)= 1.85 Ohm so > R loss = 3.35 Ohm > RRAD = 499.5 microOhm, efficiency increased to 0.015% and radiated pwr > abt 30 miliWatt, I=7.7 Amp > I am sorry bothering you but i simply would like to learn > where is the 'catch' here - if there is one ... > I guess the assumed loop i.e. 10 by 20 mters is 'reasonable' as TX antenna > i took these values after reading the article about > WD2XES first TX loop: 40 feet by 65 feet - well , almost the same > dimensions.. :) > From practical reasons the N values will likely be small , say, 2 or 3 > but as the above numbers show maybe it is worth doing it. > > 73 de Piotr, sq7mpj > qth: Lodz /jo91rs/ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc07.mx.aol.com (rly-mc07.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.91]) by air-mc07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC074-d844afb4a99168; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:37:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC074-d844afb4a99168; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:36:59 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8MjK-0004oO-FI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:36:02 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8MjJ-0004oF-SH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:36:01 +0000 Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8MjH-0007hv-A4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:36:01 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.4]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091111233047.WKOD27507.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:30:47 +0000 Received: from [86.27.93.99] (helo=jimdesk) by know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8MeE-0006aX-HS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:30:47 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: References: <4AFB477C.5090604@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:30:45 -0000 Message-ID: <001501ca6326$ff28c710$0617aac0@jimdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <4AFB477C.5090604@sighthound.demon.co.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcpjJiCUVpv+6ORETz60ivwNrD+T3QAAEduw X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IzQzauw1qIUA:10 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=00naLo0xKZOgAdwqhzUA:9 a=8DbnlhkFnFKLUAGkE9I21ftq1tcA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi John I'll have a look see. I've noticed on strong sigs from me (few and far between!) I get multiple decodes +50 and -50. I'm not aware of any obvious mains hum if I monitor my outgoing sigs and all leads are wound on ferrite cores, but clearly something is amiss. I shall look into it and see what I can find Cheers for the heads up With best regards Jim Dr. James Cowburn -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John P-G Sent: 11 November 2009 23:24 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! Jim. LF It looks like G7NKS has a 50/100Hz problem on the audio - both in TX and RX directions - there are up to 3 decodes by Jim of a single station (eg G3YXM), spaced by 50 & 100Hz and I see also that M0BMU is also reporting multiple decodes of G7NKS with the same 50/100Hz spacing. Jim, have you some mains hum affecting the audio in/out of the PC? Cheers, John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD053-b5b4b06d28a5b; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:32:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD015-b5b4b06d28a5b; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:31:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBXJx-00088v-UZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:30:57 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBXJx-00088m-Hv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:30:57 +0000 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBXJw-0003G8-Pr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:30:57 +0000 Received: from aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091120172551.EICI17277.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:25:51 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.33] (really [82.22.242.219]) by aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20091120172551.XLNG13254.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.2.33]> for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:25:51 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:25:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4B06D112.5516.96A9A90@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> In-reply-to: <001d01ca6a04$dad11770$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> References: <4B06C48F.27981.939B9FD@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com>, <001d01ca6a04$dad11770$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=9YlaCzn6_68A:10 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=1pC5q-N2VozTBwC0HIkA:9 a=8PDszOBc9CqQhSJH5_XD64mUx54A:4 a=_dQi-Dcv4p4A:10 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Test now 136.320 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 No problem. Now transmitting on 136.320kHz Mike, G3XDV ========== > Right on top of the Russian and other stn DX window. Move down to the > low end of the band out of the way. G3KEV > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Dennison" > To: > Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 4:32 PM > Subject: LF: Test transmissions > > > > After a major refurbishment of my lounge/office/shack, I have > > finally rebuilt my 136kHz station. > > > > To check reliability of the Tx at low speeds, I am transmitting > > using QRSS30 on 137.776kHz this evening (Friday). Please email if I > > am causing QRM to anyone listening for DX. I will switch off at > > around 2230UTC. > > > > Mike, G3XDV > > ========= > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc03.mx.aol.com (rly-mc03.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.87]) by air-mc07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC071-d624af29b232ef; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:30:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC032-d624af29b232ef; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:30:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N5ydo-0000TQ-2C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:28:28 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N5ydn-0000TH-C6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:28:27 +0000 Received: from smtp23.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.22]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N5ydl-0004vZ-2O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:28:27 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2314.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7A7DA7000082 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:28:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (145.220.195-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.195.220.145]) by msfrf2314.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id D20497000085 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:28:16 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091105092816860.D20497000085@msfrf2314.sfr.fr Message-ID: <001901ca5dfa$4e55bf50$0201a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:28:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091104-1, 04/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: dk7fc.....f8boj beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01CA5E02.AF94A3A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01CA5E02.AF94A3A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HI LF and DK7FC=20 Hello stefan open the beacon to day for 137705.0hz qrss3=20 very good day Claude F8boj JN16WA ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01CA5E02.AF94A3A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Claude F8boj JN16WA
------=_NextPart_000_0016_01CA5E02.AF94A3A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb08.mx.aol.com (rly-mb08.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.166]) by air-mb08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB081-d244b072e03362; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:02:28 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB088-d244b072e03362; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:02:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBdPf-0002Qw-3k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:01:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBdPe-0002Qn-KU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:01:14 +0000 Received: from web63602.mail.re1.yahoo.com ([69.147.97.72]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBdPc-0003mZ-81 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:01:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 67182 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Nov 2009 00:01:05 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1258761665; bh=MgErNGHC3IXCU8cBVLE9YwZpQHxyyuWYFlB/b4wtwUY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=bVBdh1DXLKMoeEckZqollrE/MnehHVFEmmOHRFuXTBQTJZiNLaAm6upYgN7kuFIr6yeYYIq9qF4TQRJItUQgovOAS2C+FJmw3lXfxk172jGueUT34vazmeW+xtxBfT4N24Simf79zL1V5ZX1nbu5umwp3v5Q/R27LSw4CFpFl6Q= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=csTqpUhmdliCk+iYHtNkORrAy9w4i7QEyQ5HT+MenyQra2ALo2jjlZ6c72G1Hk03/aumGBTu217w3GTB9HgWAua0AihpgjqywenjF0+YF3uwK+dHaFJqvTNW0JTiS6Bi5nskm7E3CCO6iGhiZVCR1jxl2UxcCX4ksQtI86nZdB0=; Message-ID: <124359.67090.qm@web63602.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: DEPVvXAVM1m9ufU5G610VBZbGgwXwuiJY4rhTDVErerRAh37afb7xLtseMRJP0gTTCscVG_HKcrrn3LYXSi5.jxIn8zWujN_e0Uv1iYUJVZYaODQURAIEbH6_m.KYQKayKvkH6f18shhrK7SjVWCJXY.Pg_UxaOIc.Wiclvmc15152p4z.F31jOVonbqXxEGPCqtR6dknQN0k6Aa3X0MSg7CkHegEFPU5lz_3hhDaQGArQFmmx0_Ys1k5YTTg._UTeaSEX3BOsseUHKbmfYoha2DNSnn7pdmSL2EV4pSVrcR2oE4SLUYBiXXIvtsjWBiVI3Fq5O1Pn9NUDTlrIsmtGLu4_kXg5u1JSsMliJQV1LdWGLz Received: from [97.89.42.135] by web63602.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:01:04 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:01:04 -0800 (PST) From: Andy - KU4XR To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <008801ca6a1b$d6a66210$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR BEACONS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d306.2 ; domain : yahoo.com DKIM : pass --- On Fri, 11/20/09, mal hamilton wrote: ****** snippet ****** > a cw QSO operator in real time can qsy to take evasive=20 > action and avoid qrm to others on adjacent frequencies. > G3KEV ***** end snippet ****** By Jove !! is it possible that he finally " GOT IT " ??? heavens to wonders !! Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN. LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 185.29866 KHz ( QRSS-60 ) Coordinates: N: 35* 43' 54" - W: 84* 3' 16" http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr --- On Fri, 11/20/09, mal hamilton wrote: > From: mal hamilton > Subject: LF: WSPR BEACONS > To: "rsgb" > Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 2:58 PM >=20 >=20 > =20 > =20 >=20 >=20 > =20 > These unattended Beacons > are often a source of QRM=20 > for the CW=A0QSO operator, whereas a cw QSO operator in > real time can qsy to=20 > take evasive action and avoid qrm to others on adjacent=20 > frequencies. > G3KEV > =A0=20 >=20 =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDC052-b2d4b12e5fd275; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:22:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC071-b2d4b12e5fd275; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:22:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NErCh-0004G9-Kb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:21:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NErCh-0004G0-8C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:21:11 +0000 Received: from smtp23.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NErCg-0004lh-Ma for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:21:11 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2312.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E3F117000090 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:21:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (12.5.194-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.194.5.12]) by msfrf2312.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 92195700008A for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:21:02 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091129212102598.92195700008A@msfrf2312.sfr.fr Message-ID: <001801ca7139$d8e15100$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:20:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091129-1, 29/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: f8boj info's Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01CA7142.3A41C710" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01CA7142.3A41C710 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good evening LF beaconing QRSS60 137776.20hz=20 Claude F8boj JN16WA ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01CA7142.3A41C710 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Good evening LF
beaconing QRSS60 137776.20hz <= /DIV>
Claude F8boj JN16WA
------=_NextPart_000_0015_01CA7142.3A41C710-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME044-9d94b091091285; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 05:21:28 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME095-9d94b091091285; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 05:21:07 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NC9YG-0001O3-Kv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:20:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NC9YG-0001Nu-94 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:20:16 +0000 Received: from smtp22.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.11]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NC9YF-0003CD-Mj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:20:16 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2208.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 075F9700009E for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:20:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (155.39.196-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.196.39.155]) by msfrf2208.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id A837D7000097 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:20:09 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091122102009689.A837D7000097@msfrf2208.sfr.fr Message-ID: <000601ca6b5d$5f3bde10$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:20:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091121-1, 21/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: info F8boj Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01CA6B65.C0901F20" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01CA6B65.C0901F20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi ALL TONI and Mike qso 137khz HB9ASB with G3XDV very very good copy Claude JN16WA ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01CA6B65.C0901F20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi ALL TONI and Mike
qso 137khz HB9ASB with G3XDV
very very good copy
Claude JN16WA
------=_NextPart_000_0003_01CA6B65.C0901F20-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDB033-ab74b0e8c673e1; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:11:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB035-ab74b0e8c673e1; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:10:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDf2m-0005IK-VW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:10:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDf2m-0005IA-Fa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:10:00 +0000 Received: from msa-k1.u-netsurf.ne.jp ([202.233.11.14]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from <7l1rll@dp.u-netsurf.ne.jp>) id 1NDf2l-0001MR-Dj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:10:00 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.5] (d82.HkanagawaFL41.vectant.ne.jp [222.230.132.82]) by msa-k1.u-netsurf.ne.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3456349DB for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:09:55 +0900 (JST) From: Rick Wakatori <7l1rll@dp.u-netsurf.ne.jp> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Organization: RLL Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:09:56 +0900 Message-Id: <1259244596.6299.30.camel@vaio3rd> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re:QRSS120 at 137.7KHz Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Laurence(KL1X) and Scott(VE7TIL), Thanks for your responces. My signal does not reach at your side tonight. I have to study much in LF. Antenna current is only 68mA for GP at my home, but I'll try to move to river side in a few days later. -- -.. . --... .-.. .---- .-. .-.. .-.. .-.-. 7L1RLL under ubuntu/Linux in Kawasaki,Japan(JP) URL=http://www1.u-netsurf.ne.jp/~7l1rll/radio.html -..--- -.- .-.. ..-.. --. --. ...- .-... ...-. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA093-8cb4b084e1fa; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:31:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA095-8cb4b084e1fa; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:31:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBwbM-0001pv-UZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:30:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBwbM-0001pm-IS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:30:36 +0000 Received: from mailout03.t-online.de ([194.25.134.81]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBwbM-0001tk-0L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:30:36 +0000 Received: from fwd01.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.t-online.de with smtp id 1NBwbK-0007hD-00; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:30:34 +0100 Received: from e7010 (SsX3w+ZYohZcsJNoRH1n42Edt01HcG01+8krU5Guh8SFKrZZzHEmnJ507LJbfjpZNS@[84.147.245.2]) by fwd01.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1NBwb6-27hbIu0; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:30:20 +0100 Message-ID: <006701ca6ae9$715cc5b0$6402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: References: <000a01ca6ac5$cfc00550$6402a8c0@e7010> <008a01ca6ade$1a837ff0$3ab27cbc@niurhaxf0xcqlj> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:30:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: SsX3w+ZYohZcsJNoRH1n42Edt01HcG01+8krU5Guh8SFKrZZzHEmnJ507LJbfjpZNS X-TOI-MSGID: feb04aa1-6e24-440d-8b8a-a7388675832b X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: DI2AG daylight reports Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Tnx Marcin, fer ur report. No problem with 559Km, would be very glad to have a regular CW-QSO one day with you via that distance :-) 73 Walter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcin" To: Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 8:09 PM Subject: LF: Re: DI2AG daylight reports > Hello Walter! > In Gdansk, Poland: > 1900 -26 -0.6 0.503910 0 DI2AG JN59 27 > Only 559km... > -- > Vy 73! > Marcin SQ2BXI > > > Dear MF, > many thanks for the first WSPR-reports today. > 14:54 PA3FNY 504Km > 15:00 DF8JR 881 " > 15:06 DD7PC 225 " > 15:10 PA0EGO 507 " > 15:26 G3XVL 753 " > > 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (rly-ma03.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.47]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA021-8984b012500292; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:10:17 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA032-8984b012500292; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:10:10 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9yVu-0004UZ-Mk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:08:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9yVu-0004UQ-0x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:08:50 +0000 Received: from rekin26.go2.pl ([193.17.41.76]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9yVr-0006yo-Tm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:08:49 +0000 Received: from rekin26.go2.pl (rekin26.go2.pl [127.0.0.1]) by rekin26.go2.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3271035D7BB for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:08:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from unknown (unknown [10.0.0.74]) by rekin26.go2.pl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:08:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from 58-178-124-188.rev.pro-internet.pl [188.124.178.58] by poczta.o2.pl with ESMTP id UWMnlj; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:08:42 +0100 Message-ID: <003201ca66a4$c5899bc0$3ab27cbc@niurhaxf0xcqlj> From: "Marcin" To: References: <118539074.1258323511.44388760.23420@mcgi76.rambler.ru> <814669796.1258362437.164757368.99545@mcgi38.rambler.ru> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:08:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-O2-Trust: 2, 62 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF:SP2KDS Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Roman, LF Thank you for raport. -- Vy 73! Marcin SQ2BXI > Hi Marcin, LF! > TNX for attempt to tx in QRSS-60. > You'll see I rx your "S" only. > Full report into 136 part qrss.nm.ru as usual. > > * Roman RW3ADB [Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:18:31 +0300]: > > > > Hi Marcin, LF! > > Poor trace 137.706.0 into mode-10 into my location today > > http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/16nov2009_SP2KDS/135.58W_10_00035.jpg > > > 73! > -- > Roman RW3ADB. > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (rly-mf05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.175]) by air-mf02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF024-9624aff3502b; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:54:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF058-9624aff3502b; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:53:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9RUT-0001h7-HI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:53:09 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9RUT-0001gy-31 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:53:09 +0000 Received: from mcgi38.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.217]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9RUR-0006fE-MW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:53:09 +0000 Received: from mcgi38.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi38.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDF2A1146E for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 01:53:01 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [81.195.15.221] by mcgi38.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Sun, 15 Nov 2009 01:52:56 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: rsgb Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 01:52:56 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <287859382.1258239176.158750212.87677@mcgi38.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Grabber is ON Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Chris, Peter, LF! My grabber started on up to finished your activity. qrss.nm.ru -> grabber. Looking to 501.2-501.36 and 502.0 Whats a real freq, Peter? -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db04.mx.aol.com (rly-db04.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.79]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDB081-ac24b12fd39193; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:01:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB048-ac24b12fd39193; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:01:14 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEskP-0004jr-OY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:00:05 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEskP-0004ji-4C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:00:05 +0000 Received: from mx75.mail.ru ([94.100.176.90]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEskM-0005uj-MH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:00:05 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=60012 helo=EFREMOV) by mx75.mail.ru with asmtp id 1NEskG-000Cau-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Claude Here now a dirty air( 73 Andrey > Good evening Andrey > Many thanks for the openning your grabber > y copy my traces very well > thanks you very match also for the Markus DF6NM grabber > and F1afj JPierre good night for all > Claude F8boj JN16wa From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (rly-mg10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.116]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG082-a384b02e590f5; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:04:46 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG102-a384b02e590f5; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:04:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NASO9-0004m3-JV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:02:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NASO9-0004lu-3C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1026257346-1258480962=:30151" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d263.2 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-1026257346-1258480962=:30151 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tnx Alberto =A0 I think the SR front end is quite wide infact so it would be really good= to have so much BW. Anyway=A0its not a problem to broarden the F/E filter= ing. Currently use same input for Rx on 3.5 through 10 megs and my guess= is with degraded performance it would do 14megs as well. =A0 Yep I have a choise of SC=A0ASIO driver for the current arrangement. I hav= e to say that when all else fails Winrad just ploughs on such a robust app= lication. =A0 I currently integrate=A0all my Data applications with SDR on RX via=A0a VA= C=A0a very=A0neat arrangement no messy multiple PC connectivity!. Built an= RXTX some time ago and now working on=A0Data TX side of things. =A0 Anyway thanks again info well receiver here.=A0=A0=A0 73 petefmt=A0 --- On Tue, 17/11/09, Alberto di Bene wrote: From: Alberto di Bene Subject: Re: LF: G7NKS - Double Side Band: wspr? To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tuesday, 17 November, 2009, 16:45 M0FMT wrote:=20 Veeeery interesting Alberto =A0 Would that give me 192 Kc/s of tunable band width on my SDR radio given th= e right software? There has been a lot of debate on the softrock reflector but this one seem= s to quite good. Do you have first hand experience of it? Christmas is com= ing ...hee hee. =A0 73 petefmt Pete, =A0 yes, I have one and I am quite satisfied with it. It can sample at 192= kHz, so it will give you from -96 to +96 kHz of band around the center frequency tuned with the Softrock. Assuming of course th= at the low pass filters of the Softrock let such a large portion of the spectrum pass unaffected... usually they cut at a= value rather lower than that.... you will probably=20 have to change some capacitors. The fact that it does not need an external power supply is handy too... A suggestion : if you will use Winrad for it, set it to use the ASIO drive= rs to interface the card. You will then fully benefit of the 24-bit amplitude resolution. 73=A0 Alberto=A0 i2PHD =20 --0-1026257346-1258480962=:30151 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tnx Alberto
 
I think the SR front end is quite wide infact so it would be really= good to have so much BW. Anyway its not a problem to broarden the F/= E filtering. Currently use same input for Rx on 3.5 through 10 megs and my= guess is with degraded performance it would do 14megs as well.
 
Yep I have a choise of SC ASIO driver for the current arrangemen= t. I have to say that when all else fails Winrad just ploughs on such a ro= bust application.
 
I currently integrate all my Data applications with SDR on RX vi= a a VAC a very neat arrangement no messy multiple PC connec= tivity!. Built an RXTX some time ago and now working on Data TX side= of things.
 
Anyway thanks again info well receiver here.    73 pet= efmt 

--- On Tue, 17/11/09, Alberto di Bene <dibene@u= sa.net> wrote:

From: Alberto di Bene <dibene@usa.net>Subject: Re: LF: G7NKS - Double Side Band: wspr?
To: rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.org
Date: Tuesday, 17 November, 2009, 16:45

M0FMT wrote:=20
Veeeery interesting Alberto
 
Would that give me 192 Kc/s of tunable band width on my SDR radio= given the right software?
There has been a lot of debate on the softro= ck reflector but this one seems to quite good. Do you have first hand expe= rience of it? Christmas is coming ...hee hee.
 
73 petefmt

Pete,

  yes, I have one and I am quite satisfied with it. It= can sample at 192 kHz, so it will give you from -96 to +96 kHz of bandaround the center frequency tuned with the Softrock. Assuming of course= that the low pass filters of the Softrock let such
a large portion of= the spectrum pass unaffected... usually they cut at a value rather lower= than that.... you will probably
have to change some capacitors.
The fact that it does not need an external power supply is handy too...<= BR>
A suggestion : if you will use Winrad for it, set it to use the ASI= O drivers to interface the card. You will then fully benefit
of the 24-= bit amplitude resolution.

73  Alberto  i2PHD


=20 --0-1026257346-1258480962=:30151-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de12.mx.aol.com (rly-de12.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.148]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE052-5214b0ad1be90; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:17:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE128-5214b0ad1be90; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:17:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCdSP-00020F-HG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:16:13 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCdSP-000206-3a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:16:13 +0000 Received: from mailout10.t-online.de ([194.25.134.21]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCdSN-0004Qm-0v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:16:13 +0000 Received: from fwd08.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.t-online.de with smtp id 1NCdSL-0005wy-04; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:16:09 +0100 Received: from e7010 (SrH0OrZcwhsqHYoYhzr+kgVhe0YhKpqaptnkEhvxIJVJkoxAn3L+eS0362RpoFYgNS@[84.147.241.201]) by fwd08.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1NCdS8-295wf20; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:15:56 +0100 Message-ID: <003601ca6c69$02c4ac90$6402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:15:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: SrH0OrZcwhsqHYoYhzr+kgVhe0YhKpqaptnkEhvxIJVJkoxAn3L+eS0362RpoFYgNS X-TOI-MSGID: e8c948b4-31b7-44ca-bbf8-00d1bf0b6e41 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: DI2AG WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0033_01CA6C71.6140A050" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01CA6C71.6140A050 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear MF,=20 due to strong winds and danger of antenna destruction DI2AG= will not go on air this night. Thanks to the many reports last two ni= ghts. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01CA6C71.6140A050 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear MF,
      &= nbsp; =20 due to strong winds and danger of antenna destruction DI2AG will not= go on air=20 this night. Thanks to the many reports last two nights.
73   Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF
 
------=_NextPart_000_0033_01CA6C71.6140A050-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me04.mx.aol.com (rly-me04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.38]) by air-me06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME064-9b44b07d87a40; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 07:09:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME048-9b44b07d87a40; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 07:09:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBolW-00055w-Gw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:08:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBolW-00055n-6J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:08:34 +0000 Received: from fmailhost04.isp.att.net ([207.115.11.54]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBolV-0007RW-Ht for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:08:34 +0000 Received: from [10.0.252.100] (166-82-181-251.stanlynet.org?[166.82.181.251]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc04) with ESMTP id <20091121120824H0400sk4mce>; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:08:26 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [166.82.181.251] Message-ID: <4B07D832.10708@att.net> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 07:08:18 -0500 From: Dexter McIntyre W4DEX User-Agent: Messenger 9.0a1 (Windows/20071115) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= References: <4B07ABA4.4060102@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <4B07ABA4.4060102@online.fr> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: LF T/A [137 kHz] good conditions ! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Jean-Pierre, Thank you for the report! The coil is looking rather poor due to years of UV exposure but evidently it still works. Thanks for maintaining your 137 KHz grabber. Dex, WD2XKO Jean-Pierre Méré (F1AFJ) wrote: > This Morning : > XKO (WD2XKO) qrss60 > > Dex, pse look on my grabber , your sig are vy strong ! > Thank you to be returned on 137 Khz ! From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (rly-ma06.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.50]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA052-8b44b08983a24d; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:48:00 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA066-8b44b08983a24d; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:47:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NC1Wn-00065l-Sz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:46:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NC1Wn-00065c-G0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:46:13 +0000 Received: from smtp23.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.19]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NC1Wm-0003gP-Gf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:46:13 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2302.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9DE527000087 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:46:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (12.229.197-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.197.229.12]) by msfrf2302.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id C3AC77000086 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:46:03 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091122014603801.C3AC77000086@msfrf2302.sfr.fr Message-ID: <001f01ca6b15$886a3ef0$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:45:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! 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Nov 2009 23:51:06 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4B04EADA.4090707@telus.net> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:51:06 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Joe don't drop the soap! 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RAC speaks... 73 Scott http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD054-b884b0059e060; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:43:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD072-b884b0059e060; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:43:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9kza-0000mt-HU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:42:34 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9kza-0000mk-3s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:42:34 +0000 Received: from imr-ma01.mx.aol.com ([64.12.206.39]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9kzY-00013z-Fy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:42:34 +0000 Received: from imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (imo-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.137]) by imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nAFJgK22012349 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:42:20 -0500 Received: from KKorn42@aol.com by imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id l.d0d.6558304b (65100) for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:42:17 -0500 (EST) From: KKorn42@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:42:17 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5024 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: KKorn42@aol.com X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Weak Signals - was 500kHz CW - calling CQ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1258314137" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.8 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_40_50, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1258314137 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andy & Group Vy nice presentation & tnx for making it available for us. Would like to use parts for talk in local ham club, objections? (source will be mentioned, of course!). PPT works ok, if wav-files are unzipped and placed beside it. Otherwise: no sound. 73 de Klaus DJ6LB -------------------------------1258314137 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Andy & Group
Vy nice presentation & tnx for making it available for us.
Would like to use parts for talk in local ham club, objections? (sour= ce=20 will be mentioned, of course!).
 
PPT works ok, if wav-files are unzipped and placed beside it. Otherwi= se: no=20 sound.
 
73
de Klaus
DJ6LB
 
 -------------------------------1258314137-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (rly-ma04.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.48]) by air-ma09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA093-8a54af196e12bc; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:59:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA047-8a54af196e12bc; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:59:47 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N5hJj-0006Hs-UK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:58:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N5hJj-0006Hj-ID for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:58:35 +0000 Received: from mail-yx0-f203.google.com ([209.85.210.203]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N5hIQ-0002OS-9N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:57:15 +0000 Received: by yxe41 with SMTP id 41so18258936yxe.30 for ; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 06:58:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=AoqxHqHZZSRkgj1cz9uxdLZ+hh2DtxN+9XgZbfSyBhQ=; b=HlO3OEdRbm2xr09TNTvaD//XMLmmABz6nOeX+mgrFJnLbIpAnjymLunzw2tOPEA5QZ jlR1kU8WBDpQbf5YHSKoqMYAq7xqJGNDIhg9yAK/eHebnYxRMcDUzN/8G7yKrOcBND74 X0BPqe/tMTL2KPLQ/eP0iH7MW4PESrrHLRLhU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Wj3KnsuppZDuQm2vBeEqgbAObt/A3mp6LRXI0ua7rd4Wo6PjjUKWsBSETVAkUqcc18 v/2WkFRwjIQ3RW5HUAyDsDdUv893jhhI5+hQ9WZxTMdj7dGD4nfW0leJwNB6x6HuKlAW DA0M1VlEGsbFBcxhTx6NayEMZL7NK+2vJloFU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.14.3 with SMTP id 3mr2811680ybn.288.1257346707796; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 06:58:27 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4AF13DEC.7090507@online.fr> References: <4AF13DEC.7090507@online.fr> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:58:27 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70911040658h542a54fbvae0108ff9cc91228@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XGJ 04-11.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d256.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thank you Henny, Jean-Pierre ! --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2009/11/4 "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" : > Hi Henny , Warren , > > Yes , yes ! strong signal of Warren' beacon last night ! > > 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj > > henny van elst a =E9crit : >> >> Hi Warren,LF >> Nice capture XGJ >> Henny pa3cpm >> best 73s >> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden >> verzonden: >> XGJ 04-11.jpg >> From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD032-8f54afff7ae14e; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 07:44:47 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD035-8f54afff7ae14e; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 07:44:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9eRy-0006iH-NF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:43:26 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9eRy-0006i8-4m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:43:26 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9eRv-0007aw-V4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:43:26 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3541.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7A43D1C00081 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:43:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3541.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6C4991C00082 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:43:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.53.205]) by mwinf3541.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id D9B601C00081 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:43:13 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091115124313891.D9B601C00081@mwinf3541.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <20091115112410.27d3dldtj44k4sk4@webmail6.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20091115112410.27d3dldtj44k4sk4@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:42:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Who / where is OR2ELN ?? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Ok Rick / Andy It was late at night .. looking closely at the wspr on line data base , it states the frequency is the average of the spots ..AH ... I always had assume that when you set up for tx the software announced your qrg via the web May be that is so, but it also takes a incoming spot and posts that in the active list .... as you say a little wet out there , bit like Manchester ? G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Rik Strobbe" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 10:24 AM To: Subject: Re: LF: Who / where is OR2ELN ?? > > Graham, > > the call OR2ELN does not exist > if it is a pirate he is floating in the Indian Ocean somewhe half way > between Madagascar and Heard Island. > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > Quoting Graham : > >> 2009-11-14 23:14 OR2ELN 0.503908 -33 0 >> MF03 501 G0NBD IO83 11740 326 >> >> Just decoded ? >> >> tnx - G >> >> >> >> > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc01.mx.aol.com (rly-mc01.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.85]) by air-mc07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC071-d514b07f0d426a; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:53:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC011-d514b07f0d426a; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:53:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBqNo-0005Rr-Up for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:52:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBqNo-0005Ri-Io for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:52:12 +0000 Received: from mailout04.t-online.de ([194.25.134.18]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBqNn-0008FA-21 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:52:12 +0000 Received: from fwd04.aul.t-online.de by mailout04.t-online.de with smtp id 1NBqNj-0005gZ-00; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:52:07 +0100 Received: from e7010 (Gz4t1rZE8h1ATGCrE9APdF1ZsOhj2LOeX8zO9EGjOx8stI32SwXqDkdBtGzqkdlgKy@[84.147.192.128]) by fwd04.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1NBqNV-1GA0tU0; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:51:53 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01ca6ab1$c828c070$6402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:51:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: Gz4t1rZE8h1ATGCrE9APdF1ZsOhj2LOeX8zO9EGjOx8stI32SwXqDkdBtGzqkdlgKy X-TOI-MSGID: 78cf8c64-4935-4592-9a9d-cea23fce9059 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: DI2AG WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6ABA.27F68890" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6ABA.27F68890 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear MF, how about WSPR daylight reception? DI2AG is already on air wit= h 0.4W ERP on 505.090KHz. Duty cycle 33%. Antenna was a little improve= d. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6ABA.27F68890 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear MF,
      &= nbsp; how=20 about WSPR daylight reception? DI2AG is already on air with 0.4W ERP= on=20 505.090KHz. Duty cycle 33%. Antenna was a little improved.
73  Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF<= /DIV>
 
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6ABA.27F68890-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me05.mx.aol.com (rly-me05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.39]) by air-me07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME074-9ba4afdc820289; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:57:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME056-9ba4afdc820289; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:57:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N93BI-00051I-H7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:55:44 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N93BI-000519-3d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:55:44 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N93BG-0007yJ-7h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:55:44 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.4] (rx1.twatt.home [192.168.1.4]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F0D23B4D8 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:55:41 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4AFDC7CD.5000409@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:55:41 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <00df01ca6488$e9244a80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <5MsXcPDG6Z$KFw8w@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <5MsXcPDG6Z$KFw8w@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: PIRATES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) David Pratt wrote: > > My NoV does not authorise me to operate a beacon so my operation is > limited to CW using proper Morse ;-) I don't recall ever hearing this "proper morse" on the air, nor any reports of others having heard it. Perhaps more ERP or a more suitable mode is called for? Or is it a case of "if I /were/ to be active I would use proper morse, but to be honest it all seems like too much trouble" At least the WSPRers are doing something on the band, collecting their own experimental data and providing signals for others to study. A silent " proper Morse" signal is no use to anyone. Don't castigate those who are at least actively studying the band, in a variety of modulation schemes. How do you know what other peoples' NoV allow them to do - everyone applied for permission to carry out their own experiments and were granted these permissions on an individual basis. Not all of them are specifically for manual telegraphy. John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG094-9f74afea73813d; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:49:01 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG021-9f74afea73813d; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:48:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9I2s-0007mk-LU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:48:02 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9I2s-0007mb-3E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:48:02 +0000 Received: from out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.243]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9I2q-0003u5-Ac for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:48:02 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApwEAFc1/kpZ8h2I/2dsb2JhbACEOYtrw0yEPASBbQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,741,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="224265878" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.242.29.136]) by out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 14 Nov 2009 12:47:31 +0000 Message-ID: <025801ca6528$a566dec0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <00df01ca6488$e9244a80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <1258158609.4671.18.camel@pat-compaq-evo> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:47:37 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: PIRATES Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Well you have been hooked. I have a mix of transport both a bicycle and a CLK320 for your records, living dangerously. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "g4gvw" To: Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 12:30 AM Subject: Re: LF: PIRATES > Mal, > > I have been extremely successful of late in not rising to your bait on > various topics. This time I really must take umbrage at your rather > sweeping statement about the Maritime Service vis-a-vis the 500khz > allocation. > The maritime Service has been almost 100% a "commercial" service and as > such has had as its primary interest the maintenance of a viable > communications service. As far as I am aware. no serious research has > been done by that service into weak-signal and similar modes apart from > that done by the various military interests. Effectively, as soon as > alternative and arguably more efficient/cost effective alternatives > became available these commercial interests naturally migrated to them. > This is not the same as saying they had "exhausted all possibilities and > concluded it is of no further use." Your statement is rather like saying > that the coming of the motor car rendered the bicycle or the horse > obsolete and of "no further use"! It's a funny thing but in my travels I > see plenty of both in widespread use! > Amateur radio for many of us encompasses a wide range of activities and > your constant carping and promotion of your own rather biased interests > gets on the nerves of quite a lot of us to the extent that some members > no longer subscribe to the group. > Perhaps you should consider the view that, as with the cyclists and > horse riders there are modes of operation that lead to the promotion of > health and happiness and a calm and healthy state of mind. > > > > > > On Fri, 2009-11-13 at 17:44 +0000, mal hamilton wrote: >> Lots of pirates reported around the east african coast and Indian >> ocean but now Radio pirates !!!! on 500. >> How would one know a Pirate? their style of sending on cw or the way >> they WSPR. >> Beware of the WSPR merchants no ID just carriers switching on/off as >> far as the casual radio amateur is concerned. Instead of a simple >> approach worldwide to issue Radio Amateur licences for the >> traditional CW mode on 500, appliance operator licences were issued >> for Broadcast modes ie >> CW beacons, Data beacons, and other transmissions, which must stop at >> Country Borders and must not be reported by anyone hearing such >> transmissions beyond these Borders. >> In other words the whole 500 khz business is Chaotic, whereas the >> other MF allocation 160 metres is orderly and sensibly regulated using >> in the main CW and SSB. >> It would appear the appropriate license authorities do not think the >> Appliance Operator has much to contribute to the advancement or >> research on 500. >> The marine service has been using the band for the past 100 years and >> has exhausted all possibilities and concluded it is of no further use, >> with the advancement of Satellite communications technology. >> 500 in EU seems to be a fun band for WSPR Beacons where no operator >> participation is required just unattended machines belching out bits >> of data and generating QRM to the few Radio amateurs trying to get by >> on CW. >> Let us have your opinion. >> De G3KEV >> >> >> >> > -- > 73 es gd dx de pat g4gvw > qth nr felixstowe uk > (east coast, county of suffolk) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.62/2499 - Release Date: 11/12/09 14:33:00 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD042-b974b02e92a190; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:19:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD091-b974b02e92a190; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:19:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NASdL-00055w-Jl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:18:31 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NASdL-00055l-41 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:18:31 +0000 Received: from dx.ru ([80.68.4.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NASdI-0002It-E1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:18:31 +0000 DBD::Pg::st execute failed: ERROR: duplicate key value violates unique constraint "mail_whitelist_ip_key" DBD::Pg::st execute failed: ERROR: current transaction is aborted, commands ignored until end of transaction block DBD::Pg::st fetchrow_hashref failed: no statement executing Received: from 203.56.117.87.donpac.ru ([87.117.56.203] helo=UR5IBG) by dx.ru with esmtpa auth=ed@dx.ru id 1NASd8-000GMc-0b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:18:18 +0300 Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:16:26 +0300 From: Ed RU6LA X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.7) Professional Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <7910073879.20091117211626@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.236 Subject: LF: RU6LA's acty Nov 21 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear LF enthusiasts! I'll be QRV 21 Nov on 137 kHz band from Machta KN97LN 73! Ed RU6LA 136.73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC072-b1f4b0ab4bd2d3; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:13:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC053-b1f4b0ab4bd2d3; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:13:51 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCbXB-0001hs-Qp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:13:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCbXB-0001hj-GF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:13:01 +0000 Received: from mx75.mail.ru ([94.100.176.90]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCbXA-0003x9-S3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:13:01 +0000 Received: from [94.75.139.7] (port=65369 helo=[192.168.1.4]) by mx75.mail.ru with asmtp id 1NCbX4-000LKi-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:12:54 +0300 Message-ID: <4B0AB47D.1090408@mail.ru> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:12:45 +0300 From: Dmitry User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 SeaMonkey/1.1.18 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: YO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Victor, Lubos Many thanks for capture Dmitry RA3YO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc02.mx.aol.com (rly-mc02.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.86]) by air-mc07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC072-d5f4af2bab1c7; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:45:08 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC027-d5f4af2bab1c7; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:44:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N60l4-0001Td-Ny for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:44:06 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N60l4-0001TU-CB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:44:06 +0000 Received: from mx01.infotech.at ([213.174.240.1]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N60l2-0006Fk-CV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:44:06 +0000 Received: from [213.174.255.68] by mx01.infotech.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N60l1-0000Ak-OS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:44:03 +0100 Message-ID: <4AF2BAB0.2090006@inext.at> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:44:48 +0100 From: Oberreiter Oswald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C6EE3534@exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net> <4AF21D96.3080506@mail.ru> In-Reply-To: <4AF21D96.3080506@mail.ru> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: AW: Re: LF: Who on +/-137.710KHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) HI Dimitry ! thanks fer report ,i have seen it myself also on your grabber many thanks also fore youre grabber ,i was running qrss4 . 73 de ossi oe5odl jn68rd Dmitry schrieb: > Hi LF! > > Copy qrss10 OE5ODL > > Dmitry > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df02.mx.aol.com (rly-df02.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.15]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF011-5314afb45f42f7; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:17:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF024-5314afb45f42f7; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:17:10 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8MPo-0004b8-8V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:15:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8MPn-0004az-Kl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:15:51 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8MP7-0001GW-HR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:15:10 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3522.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 79E4C1C00084 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:15:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3522.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6A86F1C00085 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:15:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.43.142]) by mwinf3522.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 1C7701C00084 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:15:42 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091111231542116.1C7701C00084@mwinf3522.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <789669B7117F49968285748B0E5D9871@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:15:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: LF: 2009-11-09 09:12 G4JNT 0.503849 -23 0 IO90iv 0.2 K1JT Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004A_01CA6324.E30134C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01CA6324.E30134C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This report is -NOT- confirmed by K1JT ,=20 Most likely is reporting station has not=20 set the station details and the default settings are still in place WSPR version 2 is due for release soon default settings will be 'blank' to prevent this in the future G ..=20 From: Graham=20 Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 8:53 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: 2009-11-09 09:12 G4JNT 0.503849 -23 0 IO90iv 0.2 K1JT FN2= 0 5599 288=20 2009-11-09 09:12 G4JNT 0.503849 -23 0 IO90iv 0.2 = K1JT FN20 5599 288 =20 At 09-12 ... amazing !=20 G ..=20 ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01CA6324.E30134C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This report is -NOT- confirmed by K1J= T ,=20
Most likely is reporting station has= not=20
set the station  details an= d the =20 default
settings are still in place
 
WSPR version 2 is  due  for=   release=20 soon
default settings will be 'blank' to&n= bsp;=20 prevent
this in the  future
 
G ..
 
 

From: Graham
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 8:53 PM
Subject: LF: 2009-11-09 09:12 G4JNT 0.503849 -23 0 IO90iv= 0.2 K1JT=20 FN20 5599 288

 2009-11-09 09:12 
  G4JNT   0.503849   -23   0   IO90iv   0.2   K1JT   FN20   5599   288 
 
At  09-12   ... amazin= g  !=20
 
G ..




------=_NextPart_000_004A_01CA6324.E30134C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF052-57e4b0805e2172; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:23:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF101-57e4b0805e2172; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:23:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBrn3-0006T1-0e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:22:21 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBrn2-0006Ss-Fj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:22:20 +0000 Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBrn1-0001PC-OM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:22:20 +0000 Received: from aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091121151710.KNHZ27507.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:17:10 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.33] (really [82.22.242.219]) by aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20091121151710.ULHK2093.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.2.33]> for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:17:10 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:17:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4B080470.21349.E1B42C9@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=9YlaCzn6_68A:10 a=p9sfuQJDaKL0fLcqHGYA:9 a=2XMxgDuKnteKM0O6o2mpOCKRQZYA:4 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: More tests on 136k Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 I am testing until about 2230UTC using QRSS60 on 136.318kHz today (Saturday). Mike, G3XDV ========== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (rly-mf05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.175]) by air-mf07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF071-95c4afd42d8189; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:28:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF052-95c4afd42d8189; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:28:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8uIt-0001pL-H7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:26:59 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8uIt-0001pC-3I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:26:59 +0000 Received: from smtp23.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.19]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8uIr-0003og-G9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:26:59 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2321.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 122FC700009F for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:26:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (17.214.194-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.194.214.17]) by msfrf2321.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id A3F1F70000A3 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:26:47 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091113112647671.A3F1F70000A3@msfrf2321.sfr.fr Message-ID: <000c01ca6454$306b0170$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:26:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091112-1, 12/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: oe5odl/f8boj Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01CA645C.91C1B380" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01CA645C.91C1B380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Ossi LF group Good afternon Ossi very signal in JN16WA=20 stopping the beacon for the qso.. Many thanks for the new contact good week end all Claude F8boj ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01CA645C.91C1B380 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Ossi LF group
Good afternon Ossi very signal in JN1= 6WA=20
stopping the beacon for the qso..
Many thanks for the new contact
good week end all
Claude F8boj
------=_NextPart_000_0009_01CA645C.91C1B380-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg01.mx.aol.com (rly-dg01.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.85]) by air-dg02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG021-5a14b01b6d913; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:32:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG016-5a14b01b6d913; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:32:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA8EU-0008TL-8e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:31:30 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA8ET-0008TC-Og for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:31:29 +0000 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA8ER-00026L-PU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:31:29 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-2.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.2]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091116202617.XGX17277.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-2.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:26:17 +0000 Received: from [81.109.247.175] (helo=jimdesk) by know-smtpout-2.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA89Q-0002VQ-EU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:26:17 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:26:13 -0000 Message-ID: <017801ca66fb$0bf91c60$0517aac0@jimdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: Acpm+wrKXJ3F+g/fRdmG39v7Dc2bIQ== X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=LuzgUjd4dUYA:10 a=OFqd4urpmSi2O5rJd_YA:9 a=DbX6W8XnV7XCTwPjGK_QdxwAaKYA:4 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=K2nfgnomstU659lxookA:9 a=9NGoGmjgoiewWKbmVWcA:7 a=XaUCFZ7h1ZOP2shS76nCiy_WZ7oA:4 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: rule #2 - assumption is the brother of all foul ups Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0179_01CA66FB.0BF91C60" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_FONT_BIG, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0179_01CA66FB.0BF91C60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LF Sidebands are back! I think its caused by my TX getting hot and bothered by struggling at 500. From cold it txs 50 watts but this soon drops back to around 35, and the sidebands appear. My sigs are better so having the txfr outside the shack and at the antenna is a vast improvement, but I now need to work on the cooling. Liquid nitrogen? Thanks to all for the guidance and suggestions With best regards Jim Dr. James Cowburn ------=_NextPart_000_0179_01CA66FB.0BF91C60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

LF

 

Sidebands are back!  I think its= caused by my TX getting hot and bothered by struggling at 500.  From cold it txs 50 watts but= this soon drops back to around 35, and the sidebands appear.  My sigs are= better so having the txfr outside the shack and at the antenna is a vast improve= ment, but I now need to work on the cooling.  

 

Liquid nitrogen? 

 

Thanks to all for the guidance and sugg= estions

 

 

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim=

 

 

Dr. James Cowburn

------=_NextPart_000_0179_01CA66FB.0BF91C60-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg04.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMG041-a1b4b1129571b3; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 08:45:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG065-a1b4b1129571b3; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 08:44:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NENab-0004Qv-Nr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:43:53 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NENab-0004Qm-8y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:43:53 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s22.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.33]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NENaa-0007qU-K5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:43:53 +0000 Received: from BLU146-DS3 ([65.55.116.7]) by blu0-omc1-s22.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 28 Nov 2009 05:43:46 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [117.12.237.216] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: To: Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:43:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Nov 2009 13:43:46.0424 (UTC) FILETIME=[CED44780:01CA7030] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: tempting fate... Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D0_01CA7030.CDD0BA30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00D0_01CA7030.CDD0BA30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well looking at DCF39 its S5 at 1338Z with my Eprobe on the wrong side= of the apartment block screened mostly to the West - so Im guessing= things are pretty reasonable long haul East West. Ive taken the antennae down off the apartment roof but couldn't resist= shoving the eprobe off the balcony on the fishing pole as a temp solu= tion - the Loran lines are pretty bright. Laurence in BY3A today and Hong Kong tomorrow. http://kl1x.com/Screen2.jpg China on a dodgy antenna http://kl1x.com/Screen.jpg Wasilla Alaska ------=_NextPart_000_00D0_01CA7030.CDD0BA30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well looking at DCF39 its S5 at 1338Z with= my Eprobe on=20 the wrong side of the apartment block screened mostly to the West - so= Im=20 guessing things are pretty reasonable long haul East West.
 
Ive taken the antennae down off the apartmen= t=20 roof but couldn=92t resist shoving the eprobe off the balcony on= the fishing=20 pole as a temp solution - the Loran lines are pretty bright.
 
Laurence in BY3A today and Hong Kong=20 tomorrow.
ht= tp://kl1x.com/Screen2.jpg  =20 China on a dodgy antenna
htt= p://kl1x.com/Screen.jpg    =20 Wasilla Alaska
 
------=_NextPart_000_00D0_01CA7030.CDD0BA30-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg11.mx.aol.com (rly-dg11.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.95]) by air-dg01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG012-6014af4771f25f; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:21:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG112-6014af4771f25f; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:21:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6ULZ-00060D-1u for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:19:45 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6ULY-000604-Eo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:19:44 +0000 Received: from smtp831.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.13.166]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6ULW-0004cS-24 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:19:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 89737 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2009 19:19:36 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=K9Ay1QKHCRTMp/K9HS22QwsCIMwvEfiVJR3RyUfdVLGGiOKVk9BHlYR89wa6SriIgUryLVGNYMZY1UdTfyqxxOlIqtTtwbF5JzrzmoPdPUc3SXebULguexIIMYPPjdxdpcX06PYbk/jtB1zvzaVDEqqKu1Fk03U7ddtJWdGM/gs= ; Received: from dial81-131-3-242.in-addr.btopenworld.com (alan.melia@81.131.3.242 with login) by smtp831.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 06 Nov 2009 19:19:36 +0000 GMT X-Yahoo-SMTP: fpz.2VeswBBs59bVshRPmMN51lcO2lgFRIvE4XTqE8dRwOxd70E- X-YMail-OSG: GLAsMFIVM1mJQ7fcMWk_hHxpjHhw2hA1tR_qFgzeRouhEJK.ULknljjNzFMcDPk5vGIhuPk_ALqqw2ql9AP0pN51w7i4paZ7v7cicyV4PSarQYYLMU4CyY5wnVC8Bs0DVlNVYUPMGBg4P.UzqFyc6thHt6qMYXzq7nSFU6ga0eyfxOAVTWYEtJ5BCNfppmTKCHN2FGnFWeL6t.9eNZ1U0AEElohAE49Tvg_YkA52GuACEDj58_xYX9IURO6GsAfFqhiFIwoIf3dh_3kcXdcR9d0aankGlp8JVtPtnH6hENLyTtQdGs9He9r9nkon0MPs.vIGYz0yygHDeL1gYwyHkPIaRhs- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <002e01ca5f16$143aaf70$0900a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <9afca2640911060845r17eb75daracad4f874c3a1c9c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 19:17:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: G3XBM: 500kHz ERP increased by 6dB - WSPR reports please Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Roger there is probably less volts on the vertical section so you are losing less by capacitive coupling to the surroundings too. Well done!! ...but watch the wind it a killer with that format aerial. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Lapthorn" To: Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 4:45 PM Subject: LF: G3XBM: 500kHz ERP increased by 6dB - WSPR reports please > Today I modified my 500kHz antenna. The 28MHz halo up at the top of the 5-6m > vertical section (which was the coax feed to the 28MHz halo) was removed and > replaced by a spiral inductance/ top capacity hat consisting of around > around 8 "spiralling in" turns in the space occupied by the original halo. > Seeing my initial reports from M0BMU I am some *5-6dB stronger* than I was > before, I guess because more of the antenna current is in the vertical > section. The measured antenna current is not much different though. > > *Please listen for me on 500kHz WSPR* and let me know if I am now stronger > than before. > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (rly-mf09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.179]) by air-mf09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF091-97c4b000941289; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:59:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF092-97c4b000941289; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:59:31 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9fch-0006yg-Ne for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:58:35 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9fch-0006yX-4C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:58:35 +0000 Received: from mcgi61.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.184]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9fce-0007tP-UQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:58:35 +0000 Received: from mcgi61.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi61.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25B3D115D4 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:58:27 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [91.77.88.87] by mcgi61.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:58:22 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:58:22 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <710152697.1258253442.86168408.14505@mcgi73.rambler.ru> Message-Id: <1091396655.1258293502.52410104.19007@mcgi61.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 137kHz grabber in SP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 * Jacek Lipkowski [Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:15:14 +0100 (CET)]: > On Sun, 15 Nov 2009, Roman RW3ADB wrote: > > > Congratulation with the grabber started! > > Thanks! > > > Put your QTH locator to the page next time. > > It's on the left bottom side. The locator is KO02md overlooked, excuse! -) > > And put "offset" to Spectrum lab pse for the screening a real freq > rule. > > This is a problem. The EKV03 drifts alot, and that would require me to > either show an inaccurate frequency scale, or to recalibrate it against > a > frequency generator every few hours. Better to leave it as it is. How many time is need to standby? My FT897D have a visible drift in mode-120 only around 0.3-0.1 Hz per 10 minutes. Degen 1103 was drifted on 137 kHz around 2h and 1.5h on 500 to finished visible drift into mode-3. > EW6GB on the grabber now (9 local time!) overslept ) > VY 73 > > Jacek / SQ5BPF > > TNX for details! 73! -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de02.mx.aol.com (rly-de02.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.138]) by air-de08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE082-4b74af69a5e2f3; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:16:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE022-4b74af69a5e2f3; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:16:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N74nG-0004mS-6G for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:14:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N74nF-0004mJ-Nk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:14:45 +0000 Received: from smtp21.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.1]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N74mG-0007ju-TC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:13:45 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2102.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 007B77000099 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:14:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (222.43.196-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.196.43.222]) by msfrf2102.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 725317000097 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:14:38 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091108101438468.725317000097@msfrf2102.sfr.fr Message-ID: <000601ca605c$4798bb90$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:14:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091107-1, 07/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: dd7pc F8boj Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01CA6064.A8652F00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01CA6064.A8652F00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HI Marco and LF Marco GM ur M in JN16WA...to day.. many thanks for the qso best 73 's Claude F8boj ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01CA6064.A8652F00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
HI Marco and LF
Marco GM ur M in JN16WA...to=20 day..
many thanks for the qso
best 73 's
Claude F8boj
------=_NextPart_000_0003_01CA6064.A8652F00-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df02.mx.aol.com (rly-df02.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.15]) by air-df04.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDF043-5334b10448d35d; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 16:28:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF026-5334b10448d35d; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 16:28:47 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NE8LA-0007hz-Hc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 21:26:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NE8L9-0007hq-Ms for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 21:26:55 +0000 Received: from web28106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NE8L9-0002Pj-HO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 21:26:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 93204 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Nov 2009 21:26:50 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1259357209; bh=hYtrbDxmVD/4LxYqfVGks+UZ5Rp/4Wib8JFrOcnqCHw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qDKKxTqYiaD7qD6dLRcBf/TnPS0H52MxQvEiwFAU6Sy7d/ar/1//fewck9lfVa256S8T6zGhT7lnraS6lEwOlr4Qs6Sp9Hwaq3U2gGXKdjAzn6lEkjbiNhA11j+ZC1NtYoiDCH2L61k9b1k+lnFmosvW6jZr5zzcGZYkpvik9ZM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uqC0TEhOGbbN0r+oDcmFvRmhLh+WyVcilY0Cuwbutt9GX8ccKVrTyePLF8SUCulN0DKa8ai33VnkNvVcdW0q5o8KHnOM1pL3LK9TdzJIeHurJltc/qHRpj5SvTQw7NzarNonPWdOUAAQQh69oA6jz/S1kHlzC6MlhPsWiCB4LW4=; Message-ID: <995935.92396.qm@web28106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Ma9UMSkVM1nD8i_xmwwUUzLUXa9nIfBDKEPSTwCzbQ99psFV7EVWPNBBC5kltVzuYEwQAUgi2IxkiJESbJg5aYOmc3zjhzmRD1U947LSTAIhM5DRgJntpnnXHYIZQmbyQmnYQkX5.a7fiVd9WAKwRN9P4klCQEgFYrFimO7HRUPa6l5tDXuQNBfkkBkY64BHvQpRD0BYrBTqWgB.bB.24JWYK14cs7M4y59ja_qKIx1Iz7kHqfPQ5Z2KlXUGL0XM2RF4rNoCQt3iEcfzogbH1xzteTK1VukGfLTzBwJCo_Ad5G9CsRPs4w5TuK1P9Z4E4YHuRPyadKmBBPTOrww- Received: from [86.130.60.7] by web28106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 13:26:49 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 13:26:49 -0800 (PST) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <004301ca6fa2$2fb1d890$0900a8c0@lark> MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: Re: How do I use Spectrum Lab as a VLF Soft Receiver ? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1734542934-1259357209=:92396" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d224.2 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-1734542934-1259357209=:92396 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi If you use sm6lkm's rx it is intended for SAQ on17.2 kcs most sondcards wi= ll work ok since you only need a 48kb sample rate giving 24kcs band width.= Not only will you hear SAQ when its on but also the Apha stations (Russia= n nav aids) at least three if not more sending a Beep Beep Beep. Also arou= nd 19 to 20 kc/s you will hear and see a strong set of signals sonding lik= e a loud rushing sound. These are some kind of naval data stations may be= US. You only need a few feet of wire in the mic socket preferably out doo= rs away from domesric noise. If the antenna is fairly long make sure you= shunt the input with a diode to stop the chance of destroying your card= with high volts from static rain and the like. There is absolutly no need= for preamps coils or any thing in front of you sound card just the protec= tive diode. =A0 Alan is right about Winrad if you set the software LO to zero and select= LH or RH rather than the full IQ and depending on you sound card sample= rate you will either get 0 to 24kc/s or 0 to 48kc/s band coverage. =A0 You will not get any further radio frequency coverage without an SDR=A0 (T= ayloe detector ... multiplexer) front end on you soundcard. Softrock comes= highly recomended it is simple to build and cheap and can be adapted to= just about any band you wish to monitor. =A0 If you wish to use any other software with you SDR set up again Alan is co= rrect just down load the VAC (virtual audio cable... Google it) and you ca= n daisy chain just about any decoding or FFT software you like with out re= sorting to a soldering iron additional PC's or physical cables..........= it's the future!!! =A0 Hope this helps, lots of info on the web join Yahoo group Soft-rock 40. =A0 There is info on a 500kc/s / 136kc/s plus IF panadaptor versions of softro= ck or you can buy a ready build Pegasus RX and others for serious money bu= t Soft-rock will delight you for peanuts!! =A0 73 mail me direct if you have any queries petefmt --- On Fri, 27/11/09, Alan Melia wrote: From: Alan Melia Subject: LF: Re: How do I use Spectrum Lab as a VLF Soft Receiver ? To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Friday, 27 November, 2009, 20:42 I am not sure about this you need to scour the help files but the SID receiver is not meant for listening to it is to produce a sig-strength v time plot. You might need some fairly crafty software connection for Spec Lab Wolf will maybe reply he does monitor. As an easy alternative try WinRad by Alberto www.weaksignals.com and just stick a wire into the mic input and you get a full SDR receiver. I am not sure you get sound out even then you may be Virtual Audio Cable, or perhap= s Alberto has a hook in the code now. The thing is you are using the card twice....once to pruduce the receiver and again to produce the audio outpu= t. I cant check at the moment I am still in the process of loading up this PC= . Best Wishes Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy - KU4XR" To: ; Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 7:14 PM Subject: LF: How do I use Spectrum Lab as a VLF Soft Receiver ? > Hello All: > > I have recently been trying to get a soundcard VLF receiver > going. I found a SAQ receiver on the web designed by > Johan - SM6LKM. It works good I suppose never having tried > this before. I can hear " Radio noise " in other words, it > actually sounds like a receiver. When I connect enough > coils in series, with a variable cap to ground to make a > pre-selector, The noise floor will rise 20 dB when I tune > the Cap. and you can see the peak move across the spectrum > display. However, that's as far as you can go, You can't > choose a sound card, it automatically chooses the windows > default card, and I haven't found a way to use DSP filtering > with it, since everything is based on the sound card alone. > > Now for Spectrum Lab, It has a built in " SID " receiver, > and the built in DSP filters work in the program. I just can't > get it to work !!!!! All I can get is low freq. hum, or > digital noise. It makes no difference with or without an Ant. > I've changed sound card sample rates, and FFT settings, > nothing works for me. > > Does anyone have any suggestions for me to try=A0 ?? Thank you. > > 73 to all ::: > > > Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN. > LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 185.29866 KHz ( QRSS-60 ) > Coordinates:=A0 N:=A0 35* 43' 54" - W:=A0 84* 3' 16" > http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr > http://webpages.charter.net/ku4xr/ > > > > =20 --0-1734542934-1259357209=:92396 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi
If you use sm6lkm's rx it is intended for SAQ on17.2 kcs most sondcar= ds will work ok since you only need a 48kb sample rate giving 24kcs band= width. Not only will you hear SAQ when its on but also the Apha stations= (Russian nav aids) at least three if not more sending a Beep Beep Beep.= Also around 19 to 20 kc/s you will hear and see a strong set of signals= sonding like a loud rushing sound. These are some kind of naval data stat= ions may be US. You only need a few feet of wire in the mic socket prefera= bly out doors away from domesric noise. If the antenna is fairly long make= sure you shunt the input with a diode to stop the chance of destroying yo= ur card with high volts from static rain and the like. There is absolutly= no need for preamps coils or any thing in front of you sound card just th= e protective diode.
 
Alan is right about Winrad if you set the software LO to zero and sel= ect LH or RH rather than the full IQ and depending on you sound card sampl= e rate you will either get 0 to 24kc/s or 0 to 48kc/s band coverage.
 
You will not get any further radio frequency coverage without an SDR&= nbsp; (Tayloe detector ... multiplexer) front end on you soundcard. Softro= ck comes highly recomended it is simple to build and cheap and can be adap= ted to just about any band you wish to monitor.
 
If you wish to use any other software with you SDR set up again Alan= is correct just down load the VAC (virtual audio cable... Google it) and= you can daisy chain just about any decoding or FFT software you like with= out resorting to a soldering iron additional PC's or physical cables.....= ..... it's the future!!!
 
Hope this helps, lots of info on the web join Yahoo group Soft-rock= 40.
 
There is info on a 500kc/s / 136kc/s plus IF panadaptor versions of= softrock or you can buy a ready build Pegasus RX and others for serious= money but Soft-rock will delight you for peanuts!!
 
73 mail me direct if you have any queries petefmt

--- On Fr= i, 27/11/09, Alan Melia <alan.melia@btinternet.com> wrote= :

From: Alan Melia <alan.melia@btinternet.com= >
Subject: LF: Re: How do I use Spectrum Lab as a VLF Soft Receiver= ?
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Friday, 27 November, 2009,= 20:42

I am not sure about this you need to scour the help= files but the SID
receiver is not meant for listening to it is to prod= uce a sig-strength v
time plot. You might need some fairly crafty softw= are connection for Spec
Lab Wolf will maybe reply he does monitor.
<= BR>As an easy alternative try WinRad by Alberto www.weaksignals.com and ju= st
stick a wire into the mic input and you get a full SDR receiver. I= am not
sure you get sound out even then you may be Virtual Audio Cable= , or perhaps
Alberto has a hook in the code now. The thing is you are= using the card
twice....once to pruduce the receiver and again to prod= uce the audio output.
I cant check at the moment I am still in the proc= ess of loading up this PC.

Best Wishes
Alan G3NYK

-----= Original Message -----
From: "Andy - KU4XR" <ku4xr@yahoo.com>
To: <lowfer@mailman.qth.net>; <rsgb_lf_group@blackshee= p.org>
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 7:14 PM
Subject: LF:= How do I use Spectrum Lab as a VLF Soft Receiver ?


> Hello= All:
>
> I have recently been trying to get a soundcard VLF= receiver
> going. I found a SAQ receiver on the web designed by
= > Johan - SM6LKM. It works good I suppose never having tried
> th= is before. I can hear " Radio noise " in other words, it
> actually= sounds like a receiver. When I connect enough
> coils in series, wi= th a variable cap to ground to make a
> pre-selector, The noise floo= r will rise 20 dB when I tune
> the Cap. and you can see the peak move acr= oss the spectrum
> display. However, that's as far as you can go, Yo= u can't
> choose a sound card, it automatically chooses the windows<= BR>> default card, and I haven't found a way to use DSP filtering
&g= t; with it, since everything is based on the sound card alone.
>
= > Now for Spectrum Lab, It has a built in " SID " receiver,
> and= the built in DSP filters work in the program. I just can't
> get it= to work !!!!! All I can get is low freq. hum, or
> digital noise.= It makes no difference with or without an Ant.
> I've changed sound= card sample rates, and FFT settings,
> nothing works for me.
>= ;
> Does anyone have any suggestions for me to try  ?? Thank yo= u.
>
> 73 to all :::
>
>
> Andy - KU4XR - EM= 75xr - Friendsville, TN.
> LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 185.29866 KHz ( QR= SS-60 )
> Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"> http://= www.myspace.com/beaconxr
> http://webpages.charter.net/ku4xr/
>>
>
>


=20 --0-1734542934-1259357209=:92396-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA014-8cd4b045410af; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:08:06 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA097-8cd4b045410af; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:07:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAqnX-0004aE-Mo for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:06:39 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAqnX-0004a5-3O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:06:39 +0000 Received: from out1.ip05ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.241]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAqnV-0004qp-BE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:06:39 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsoEAHbiA0tZ8cq7/2dsb2JhbACCJCyLKQbKWoQ7BIFv X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,766,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="96446533" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([89.241.202.187]) by out1.ip05ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 18 Nov 2009 20:06:29 +0000 Message-ID: <005001ca688a$9e8c97b0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:06:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: VX9MRC Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004D_01CA688A.9E42BD70" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01CA688A.9E42BD70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Now active on 508 khz qrs3 good signal for those in EU who want a QSO. De Mal/G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01CA688A.9E42BD70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Now active on 508 khz qrs3 good signa= l for those in=20 EU who want a QSO.
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------=_NextPart_000_004D_01CA688A.9E42BD70-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md04.mx.aol.com (rly-md04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.142]) by air-md02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD021-8fe4b06d0b01f6; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:24:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD046-8fe4b06d0b01f6; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:24:03 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBXCI-00080A-3d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:23:02 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBXCH-000801-M1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:23:01 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBXCG-0001MO-Co for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:23:01 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so3772771bwz.4 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:22:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=3tfRenfnHcbG3rYx7g0vyAhtjPLLI9x6kokLLP3sphg=; b=bCXYwUyj/MX0G4a5Zuv1uR9P0pYsq6hsSbEWaWOSRMr8/plAuFbhr7O8fXMD0wA47y MjAyl2siDI22iSE57pTBDkDEnWz1JdjpdUaZ/7OMhr2INUc9cUOEZEUVRrQic/HGy6HD 7Lkvqyk3jY5nrEiJfANUuGldgtzdGohZDbUc8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=sAJrtO+bPZnKqtnALtVOUBeUhik1fnuEaqW9403/8l87RFifozgRttrohbBJqoXskH ZusnemuTmcnDsxpsUwEdj6bYNLl38+n/q1a1D/1HYq/Q6cMyfKjwNF/gohKdGXJEpMiN dno7mfXlaea+jJX2rHxqYCWCCo/3vHVp1Ibx8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.29.15 with SMTP id o15mr1642015bkc.145.1258737773672; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:22:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <001d01ca6a04$dad11770$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> References: <4B06C48F.27981.939B9FD@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> <001d01ca6a04$dad11770$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:22:53 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911200922n24fffe14vd1556aeae4a35d16@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Test transmissions Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0003255553aedd779e0478d0b98f X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d275.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0003255553aedd779e0478d0b98f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ...please 2009/11/20 mal hamilton > Right on top of the Russian and other stn DX window. Move down to the low > end of the band out of the way. > G3KEV > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Dennison" > To: > Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 4:32 PM > Subject: LF: Test transmissions > > > > After a major refurbishment of my lounge/office/shack, I have finally > > rebuilt my 136kHz station. > > > > To check reliability of the Tx at low speeds, I am transmitting using > > QRSS30 on 137.776kHz this evening (Friday). Please email if I am > > causing QRM to anyone listening for DX. I will switch off at around > > 2230UTC. > > > > Mike, G3XDV > > ========= > > > > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --0003255553aedd779e0478d0b98f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ...please

2009/11/20 mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktal= k.net>
Right on top of the Russian and other stn DX window. Move down to the low<= br> end of the band out of the way.
G3KEV

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Dennison" <mike.dennison@ntlworld.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org>
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 4:32 PM
Subject: LF: Test transmissions


> After a major refurbishment of my lounge/office/shack, I have finally=
> rebuilt my 136kHz station.
>
> To check reliability of the Tx at low speeds, I am transmitting using=
> QRSS30 on 137.776kHz this evening (Friday). Please email if I am
> causing QRM to anyone listening for DX. I will switch off at around > 2230UTC.
>
> Mike, G3XDV
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>





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--0003255553aedd779e0478d0b98f-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db05.mx.aol.com (rly-db05.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.80]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDB084-ac74b0d3e2211e; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:24:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB055-ac74b0d3e2211e; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:24:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDImH-0003Dp-Oo for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:23:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDImH-0003Dg-3p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:23:29 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDImE-0003Hq-I5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:23:29 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33FA251C003 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:23:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from PC_van_Rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-106.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.106]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 108C1F3862 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:23:16 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:23:23 +0100 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: References: <000c01ca6db1$04873810$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091125142316.108C1F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_10_20=0.945,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Class E pa Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_23863738==.ALT" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --=====================_23863738==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hello Tony, >I'm still using a Derivative of the Design from G3YXM's class E 1KW TX on LF If you refer to the TX in http://www.wireless.org.uk/136rig.htm : this is a class D TX, not class E. I am also using a "G3XYM clone" on 500kHz (with a pair of IRFP350's). Running on 44V / 7 A it delivers just over 250W, about 82% efficiency. It seems very forgiving to mismatch, no FET failures so far (fingers crossed). But for testing purposes (antenna tuning) I run it on 13.6V (abt. 25W output) where it can handle any mismatch. 73, Rik ON7YD At 12:47 25/11/2009, you wrote: >Hi Mal >I'm still using a Derivative of the Design from G3YXM's class E 1KW >TX on LF. Recently I've built a TX for 500 kHz using the same >principle. It works great and delivers up to 500W. Unfortunately >only into a dummy load, because 500 kHz is still not allowed here in >Switzerland. But at least - I will be ready ;-) >73 de Toni, HB9ASB > >2009/11/25 mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> >Ref recent discussion on the subject. > >I use a class E pa on 500 kcs and never get any trouble. >As a general guide use high voltage fets and the fet V should be >rated at about 5 times the supply V and current about 3 times. >You arrive at class E by careful design not by accident. >Having designed and built the PA for the required power and load R >usually 50 ohms adjust into a DL for correct waveform as displayed >on a 'scope, this is important otherwise V spikes and instability >will kill the fet. >Install a suitable antenna and match it with a suitable atu to 50 >ohms so when you connect the TX/PA to the antenna they both match. >Check the wave form again and any slight mismatch should be adjusted >by the antenna atu and NOT the pa. >The load does not have to be 50 ohms but this is convenient when >testing with available test gear. >High V fets give more realistic C and Inductor and R values. A good >range for fets is a psu giving 40 - 100 volts ie fets 500volts and a >suitable current rating depending on your power. requirements ie if >you need to draw 5 amps the fet should be rated 15 amps. >These are the general guidelines and work well for me. >Most amateurs seem to use class D amps whereas class E are rare. > >de Mal/G3KEV > > --=====================_23863738==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Hello Tony,

I'm still using a Derivative of the Design from G3YXM's class E 1KW TX on LF

If you refer to the TX in http://www.wireless.org.uk/136rig.htm : this is a class D TX, not class E.
I am also using a "G3XYM clone" on 500kHz (with a pair of IRFP350's). Running on 44V / 7 A it delivers just over 250W, about 82% efficiency. It seems very forgiving to mismatch, no FET failures so far (fingers crossed). But for testing purposes (antenna tuning) I run it on 13.6V (abt. 25W output) where it can handle any mismatch.

73, Rik ON7YD

At 12:47 25/11/2009, you wrote:
Hi Mal
I'm still using a Derivative of the Design from G3YXM's class E 1KW TX on LF. Recently I've built a TX for 500 kHz using the same principle. It works great and delivers up to 500W. Unfortunately only into a dummy load, because 500 kHz is still not allowed here in Switzerland. But at least - I will be ready ;-)
73 de Toni, HB9ASB

2009/11/25 mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net >
Ref recent discussion on the subject.
 
I use a class E pa on 500 kcs and never get any trouble.
As a general guide use high voltage fets and the fet V should be rated at  about 5 times the supply V and current about 3 times.
You arrive at class E by careful design not by accident.
Having designed and built the PA for the required power and load R usually 50 ohms adjust into a DL for correct waveform as displayed on a 'scope, this is important otherwise V spikes and instability will kill the fet.
Install a suitable antenna and match it with a suitable atu to 50 ohms so when you connect the TX/PA to the antenna they both match.
Check the wave form again and any slight mismatch should be adjusted by the antenna atu and NOT the pa.
The load does not have to be 50 ohms but this is convenient when testing with available test gear.
High V fets give more realistic C and Inductor and R values. A good range for fets is a psu giving 40 - 100 volts ie fets 500volts and a suitable current rating depending on your power. requirements ie if you need to draw 5 amps the fet should be rated 15 amps.
These are the general guidelines and work well for me.
Most amateurs seem to use class D amps whereas class E are rare.
 
de Mal/G3KEV
 

--=====================_23863738==.ALT-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG101-9f24afdd04828e; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:32:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG014-9f24afdd04828e; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:31:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N93jZ-0005LX-3V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:31:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N93jY-0005LO-Kr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:31:08 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f211.google.com ([209.85.220.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N93jX-00015i-Od for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:31:08 +0000 Received: by fxm3 with SMTP id 3so2224098fxm.4 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:31:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+kXnSjeyTVYnykKvxPXqbjutcm7OU/uHO1ideiB8/l4=; b=WNYJJ6p0OnM6QfPK2yMx0WAu9G2FhSmxYjtW5EHzivkwbint9zhVDFxOuXJ7q0ofky 3qLvRa0DWeXaVFhhn2Oah9ng4VG5iIrK7CqectWmN1/g/juj5abtOZ6R1BCI4ZaTYYf1 r0c+tticN73WfHopdhx4CI4SqgNu30YQCrJR8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=IAW2VO+7EmO4kAJbunfmx7mmtQUQaepAR3+raZVdZ9gGjjahkjDwK00Hg4OnBcumKU 9MxsRgdWJLM9UMlz7RodMGg4EXb3eMPkHJh2hX0N+J+YfV2U18oG98OEkYialMvt/0DE 7+UBY2HVGXVqoiB+xDg/zEp+w2/o2EPcwh5qU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.145.8 with SMTP id q8mr465777hba.122.1258147861835; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:31:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4AFDC7CD.5000409@sighthound.demon.co.uk> References: <00df01ca6488$e9244a80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <5MsXcPDG6Z$KFw8w@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk> <4AFDC7CD.5000409@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:31:01 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: PIRATES Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f0a018612fb80478476007 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d227.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001485f0a018612fb80478476007 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My NoV specifically was not for manual CW. So, technically, my beacon is breaking the terms of the NoV by having an on-off 10 baud ident. Andy www.g4jnt.com this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny state 2009/11/13 John P-G > David Pratt wrote: > > >> My NoV does not authorise me to operate a beacon so my operation is >> limited to CW using proper Morse ;-) >> > > I don't recall ever hearing this "proper morse" on the air, nor any reports > of others having heard it. > > Perhaps more ERP or a more suitable mode is called for? > > Or is it a case of "if I /were/ to be active I would use proper morse, but > to be honest it all seems like too much trouble" > > At least the WSPRers are doing something on the band, collecting their own > experimental data and providing signals for others to study. > > A silent " proper Morse" signal is no use to anyone. > > Don't castigate those who are at least actively studying the band, in a > variety of modulation schemes. How do you know what other peoples' NoV allow > them to do - everyone applied for permission to carry out their own > experiments and were granted these permissions on an individual basis. Not > all of them are specifically for manual telegraphy. > > > > John > GM4SLV > > --001485f0a018612fb80478476007 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My NoV specifically was not for manual CW.=A0 So, technically, my bea= con is breaking the terms of the NoV by having an on-off 10 baud ident.

Andy
www.g4jnt.= com

this email has been scanned for political correctness by th= e nanny state


2009/11/13 John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk<= /a>>
David Pratt wrote:


My NoV does not authorise= me to operate a beacon so my operation is limited to CW using proper Mors= e ;-)

I don't recall ever hearing this "proper morse&q= uot; on the air, nor any reports of others having heard it.

Perhaps= more ERP or a more suitable mode is called for?

Or is it a case of= "if I /were/ to be active I would use proper morse, but to be honest= it all seems like too much trouble"

At least the WSPRers are doing something on the band, collecting their= own experimental data and providing signals for others to study.

A= silent " proper Morse" signal is no use to anyone.

Don&#= 39;t castigate those who are at least actively studying the band, in a var= iety of modulation schemes. How do you know what other peoples' NoV al= low them to do - everyone applied for permission to carry out their own ex= periments and were granted these permissions on an individual basis. Not= all of them are specifically for manual telegraphy.



John
GM4SLV


--001485f0a018612fb80478476007-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG021-a284b07faee77; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:36:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG082-a284b07faee77; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:36:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBr3l-0005u6-Ml for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:35:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBr3l-0005tx-5d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:35:33 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f211.google.com ([209.85.220.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBr3k-0008UR-I4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:35:33 +0000 Received: by fxm3 with SMTP id 3so4668126fxm.4 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:35:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=beJHtghN0ZLciFaIF1wbTn/R2DnW/o5s/rQYugf0m7g=; b=VJmLV2y2x9eTN1JFDllwE5rv9DKs7jldmyUuhxvDWYDETy6Rrwx9Jo9ouW7/N+wzei opcnAmXsNkJMWfROAcR4EH/O0hyEJdKpNKn3+n5z/O5JgOlZo3GZ4dHinOXWOGRdYNIL ozNNnWAyAE5s9vYy/m+CkPkG9wUGmxCWX/qFQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Zb2FxfawNVLII/aVrkRh6F5CoT09UJ7iaOpiPE+ej+9SsAqcxTYsKc7eKWIBCH8iun Xbnng9Xkl1MndXViRNrwbbqGTkX+KQarDXAWblWg/Tc9kFY8eHPzSxVi6DLzcPyQAPQD IEH/85Z7+vmE7e+snU3EdXL2CR6pivUsAhVNA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.139.91 with SMTP id s27mr268885hbs.84.1258814126361; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:35:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <004501ca6ab4$9a81dd20$0517aac0@desktop> References: <4B07ABA4.4060102@online.fr> <004601ca6ab3$a160b400$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <004501ca6ab4$9a81dd20$0517aac0@desktop> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:35:25 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d276.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) and define unattended ... Andy www.g4jnt.com This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health and safety police 2009/11/21 James Cowburn : > How do you know they are unattended? > > > Jim > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton > Sent: 21 November 2009 14:05 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO > > Two unattended machines had a QSO!! =A0Is that what you mean. > g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andy Talbot" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 1:52 PM > Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO > > > CanI suggest you read thoroughly the documentation on how the mode > works before making claims about the database.and validity. =A0 The > database can only be updated by stations decoding and reportoing, and > if each QSO partner has a reciprocal report in the database for > near-adjacent time intervals , then they MUST have been in contact > with eachother and cannot be classed as anything bu a valid QSO. Its > impossible to have achieved this in any other way. > > Please read all the documentation first. > > Andy > www.g4jnt.com > > This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health > and safety police > > > > 2009/11/21 Wolf Ostwald : >> Hello group ! >> >> >> >> I am not an expert with WSPR at all. But I followed the discussion > regarding >> false detection of calls thru the database. >> >> To my understanding the WSPR operator has NO way to really find out > whether >> the computer came to the right conclusion about the calls received, or >> whether it just judged by means of plausibility. We humans have no sens= e > for >> phaseshift, that means we have to believe the machine. >> >> I think that the database in the background is like a walking stick for > the >> blind. >> >> Of course it's a new and exciting technology, but I doubt that it is on > one >> and the same level with a regular exchange and therefore should not be >> considered equally verifying a valid contact. >> >> My two pence worth de wolf df2py >> >> > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME054-99d4af202338; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:38:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME021-99d4af202338; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:37:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N5oSv-00082x-Bh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:36:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N5oSu-00082o-Ub for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:15:14 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: paranoid.lipkowski.org: sq5bpf owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:15:14 +0100 (CET) From: Jacek Lipkowski To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <710152697.1258253442.86168408.14505@mcgi73.rambler.ru> Message-ID: References: <710152697.1258253442.86168408.14505@mcgi73.rambler.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score-sq5bpf: -2.601 () BAYES_00,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 137kHz grabber in SP Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) On Sun, 15 Nov 2009, Roman RW3ADB wrote: > Congratulation with the grabber started! Thanks! > Put your QTH locator to the page next time. It's on the left bottom side. The locator is KO02md > And put "offset" to Spectrum lab pse for the screening a real freq rule. This is a problem. The EKV03 drifts alot, and that would require me to either show an inaccurate frequency scale, or to recalibrate it against a frequency generator every few hours. Better to leave it as it is. EW6GB on the grabber now (9 local time!) VY 73 Jacek / SQ5BPF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (rly-dd08.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.155]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDD054-b944b12e3cc2dd; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:12:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD086-b944b12e3cc2dd; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:12:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEr3k-00049a-IJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:11:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEr3k-00049R-1f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:11:56 +0000 Received: from mbox1.netikka.net ([213.250.81.202]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEr3h-0005RA-OP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:11:55 +0000 Received: from hupu.netikka.net (hupu [172.16.83.91]) by mbox1-feedback.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE021271738 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:11:47 +0200 (EET) Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by hupu.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8BF04B0045 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:11:47 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4AC3495B70 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:11:47 +0200 (EET) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:11:47 +0200 Message-ID: <1259529107.4b12e393a0c23@imp.netikka.net> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:11:47 +0200 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AA6D@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> <9F3AD1B305084F15AA47A8061538AD5F@lindavideo> In-Reply-To: <9F3AD1B305084F15AA47A8061538AD5F@lindavideo> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,BIZ_TLD=1.169 Subject: Re: LF: Re: AW: 4kv diode Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BIZ_TLD autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Here is an "in between" diode, 12kV 500mA. Available at Partco: http://www.partco.biz/verkkokauppa/product_info.php?cPath=3D2075_11_1012_1= 815&products_id=3D2946 BR Paul-Henrik Quoting Ken : > Hi Stefan. > Thanks Stefan, do you have a source for either the BV8 or the BV16?, I= have > been unable to find one. > > 73 > Ken > M0KHW > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Stefan Sch=E4fer > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 6:05 PM > Subject: LF: AW: 4kv diode > > > Hi Ken, > > My hint is to try a BV8 Diode. It is able to take 500mA. On my work,= I have > good experiences with the BV16, the 16kV Version. > > Each one costs abt 1=80. Three in parallel, thermal coupled, should be= no > problem at all. And: there=B4s no need for extra cooling! > > > > 73, Stefan > > > > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Ken > Gesendet: Sonntag, 29. November 2009 12:05 > An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Betreff: LF: 4kv diode > > > > Hello All. > > I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or equivalent diode, BY4 4kv @ 1A, BY6= 6kv > @ 1A, I have searched the web and looked in Farnell, any ideas please. > > > > 73. > > Ken > > > > M0KHW > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD084-92a4b0bb7e5d2; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 05:39:47 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD102-92a4b0bb7e5d2; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 05:39:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCsnX-0004iO-DG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:39:03 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCsnW-0004iF-Sp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:39:02 +0000 Received: from col0-omc1-s6.col0.hotmail.com ([65.55.34.16]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCsnT-0000sJ-NL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:39:02 +0000 Received: from COL122-W57 ([65.55.34.8]) by col0-omc1-s6.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:37:58 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:37:58 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Nov 2009 10:37:58.0741 (UTC) FILETIME=[30A3D850:01CA6CF2] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_68040505-3014-409b-8f0e-9589f9eba75c_" Subject: LF: XKO X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --_68040505-3014-409b-8f0e-9589f9eba75c_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_d0d6bac3-462f-44f2-ae85-8ec912da3a57_" --_d0d6bac3-462f-44f2-ae85-8ec912da3a57_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello LF! I saw nice signal from XKO this morning. 73! Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS =20 _________________________________________________________________ Nov=E1 Windows 7: Zjedodu=B9te si ka=BEdodenn=ED =FAkoly. Kter=FD po=E8=ED= ta=E8 je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD? http://windows.microsoft.com/shop=3D --_d0d6bac3-462f-44f2-ae85-8ec912da3a57_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello LF!
I saw nice signal from XKO this morning.

73!

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relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCvlY-0002DA-2m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:49:14 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KTM00MCP91PGL@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:49:01 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:48:41 +0100 From: henny van elst To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <8613F866EF3B4051A10B42518470A926@ns94d01ae4d850> <4B0BD672.7000909@inext.at> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: ODL 24-11.jpg Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Tu Ossi, henny cpm best 73s ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oberreiter Oswald" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 1:49 PM Subject: Re: LF: ODL 24-11.jpg > hallo henny ! > thank you fer report > your signal today 136.550 cpm good 15 db over n. here jn68rd > 73 ossi > oe5odl > > henny van elst schrieb: >> Hi LF >> capture ODL, >> strong signal, >> henny pa3cpm >> 73s >> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden >> verzonden: >> ODL 24-11.jpg >> >> Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen >> virussen het 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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.79/2522 - Release Date: 11/23/09 19:45:00 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb04.mx.aol.com (rly-mb04.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.162]) by air-mb04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB044-cfe4af6cadb1ce; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:42:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB042-cfe4af6cadb1ce; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:42:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N781j-0006Kw-D9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:41:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N781i-0006Kn-VW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:41:54 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N780k-0000Do-OT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:40:55 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.6] (opc1.twatt.home [192.168.1.6]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5588F3B535 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:41:50 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4AF6CA9E.70403@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:41:50 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <019f01ca6061$34a80040$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20091108120711.z1zbaakm0cw0cocg@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <01cd01ca6068$54f09a40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20091108141505.zsudabk1wg80k848@webmail6.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20091108141505.zsudabk1wg80k848@webmail6.kuleuven.be> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: daytime WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Rik, LF Just copied you at 13:36 on 2 different RX setups. The usual ALA1530 loop/IC-R75 shows in the WSPR database, at -30dB! My HF vertical fed via MF tuned pre-amp to an IC718 (not reported to WSPRnet) showed at -16dB!! That's 1102km.... I'll leave the second system running for another hour or so, and reporting to WSPRnet Cheers John GM4SLV Rik Strobbe wrote: > My WSPR 0.2W ERP signal was copied by GM0LLJ (774km) at 12:58 UTC > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me01.mx.aol.com (rly-me01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.34]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME083-9964af88e40239; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:48:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME012-9964af88e40239; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:48:51 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7c5U-0004py-7y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:47:48 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7c5T-0004pp-PR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:47:47 +0000 Received: from smtp826.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.189.240]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7c5Q-0006EO-Qx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:47:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 58629 invoked from network); 9 Nov 2009 21:47:39 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=ZwidTEptxh5p58gbFCTAuK0Q3XNGe2oEku/PTLCmHDCyrAzo/j2sWjc8WOgyjKm2Sc+wAQ19S6KDubbo4hJ/6hDCPA9VdkBKP2t2jvxITtiwIEyp5h8vCUuhnu17/+tJXbAoKyl5xQ9muWb0tTL1B7WyKy2P/TsI4LSiCI9LG/Q= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@213.122.42.14 with login) by smtp826.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Nov 2009 21:47:38 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: KHdpK2OswBBXlm4uxknbEiS4uYdJoGknHN90u4K8__lTafnafZg- X-YMail-OSG: xorvAv0VM1nM9gDMP_NwEUh_Sjl9pJQve16tKbLV1yGI0FGAkyqkiPyNIWwuielYlH7Ss8UnBwX_IrPDQphiLo6bTESqaNe.yCU7sSJimI7NfEj6wOuH3eB7.6n3AOUzgzQQjvEBVlkq56E53gtBYFOr5N7nFLMyIj3znZU.bxY5.oAMyISBu_Zm5Py4GRimf4p4ni8Yp5BveIa1s39PVutVI6a0bMnt8xN_fn.kY.rDOr824sYHYyngPuBTc0JwIhrwGy6N.9TMFpdKUHnyBZO9fAgofJOXdKQguWco182v.QVjEyGt5.92TfPLqFZofF7byKAlBq5finI20de5m4A3Tqg- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <000001ca6186$436317c0$0900a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: MCSID(1).941917242 <200911091000250405.1609D0BF@smtp2.numeo.fr> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:34:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Fwd: The death of Loran -again? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi John, that URL you copied from Rob doesnt work for me. There is othing on the Megapulse site of the USCG sire about it closing, the budget is not cut it is reduced and I guess USCG have to decide how best to spend it. I dont expect it to affect the French who being,.... well, French ?..... will continue to go their own way!! Do you have 1pps GPS capability?? eke "Clicklock" as there is an interesting project that may come up. Only resures a sound card and an AM receiver and a GPS 1pps Best Wishes to you and Rosie Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "John RABSON" To: Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 9:00 AM Subject: LF: Fwd: The death of Loran -again? > > Received from Rob Gill : > > > > >Possibly more likely this time? > > > >Questex link: > >http://www.gpsworld.com/node/9087Loran > > > >Rob > > F5VLF > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me01.mx.aol.com (rly-me01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.34]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME082-99a4af98e8b2ed; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:02:47 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME016-99a4af98e8b2ed; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:02:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7t93-0007Qv-Nw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:00:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7t93-0007Qm-47 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:00:37 +0000 Received: from omta2.toronto.rmgopenwave.com ([4.59.182.100]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7t8F-0007UA-DI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:59:48 +0000 Received: from torspm02.toronto.rmgopenwave.com ([142.177.105.200]) by tormtz02.toronto.rmgopenwave.com (InterMail vM.8.00.01.00 201-2244-105-20090324) with ESMTP id <20091110160007.FFCI24184.tormtz02.toronto.rmgopenwave.com@torspm02.toronto.rmgopenwave.com> for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:00:07 -0500 Received: from JimPC ([142.177.105.200]) by torspm02.toronto.rmgopenwave.com with ESMTP id <20091110160004.CNVS20471.torspm02.toronto.rmgopenwave.com@JimPC>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:00:04 -0500 From: "Jim and Hannelore Fisher" To: , "rsgb lf group" Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:00:00 -0000 Message-ID: <001101ca621e$dcdc3380$96949a80$@princeton.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcpiHtu8aJMvchJjS4G0hgm+KIL5DA== Content-Language: en-ca X-Opwv-CommTouchExtSvcRefID: str=0001.0A020206.4AF98E07.02BC,ss=1,fgs=0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500 kHz WSPR de VE1JF Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01CA621E.DCDC3380" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01CA621E.DCDC3380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Congratulations on #1000, G3XIZ! I chair the Radio Amateurs of Canada (RAC) LF/MF/HF Band Planning Committee, and several of us are interested in participating in the recently-authorized Canadian Developmental Service experiments on 500 kHz. We are receiving active support on this effort from the Regulatory Affairs wing of RAC, who are Industry Canada's gatekeepers. This period is preliminary to the coming world meeting where this will be discussed. We hope to get several stations transmitting 25% of the time and a lot more across Canada receiving, so it should add to WSPR's activity and spotting at this frequency. I'm not sure what you were saying about hand-sent CW vs. WSPR; I also love CW but am amazed what WSPR can offer. Other authorized Canadian participants in this program are already using CW, and most of my 100,000+ QSOs over 53+ years have been CW, but we are expecting our little group to propose two frequencies (we must be specific) and use 503.9 WSPR beacon mode, break in using the WSJT WSPR mode, and QSY to our "working frequency", where we can use any mode within the 1 kHz permissible bandwidth. Contenders for working frequency QSOs might vary from some of the JT modes to OLIVIA to CW depending on what signal levels we are experiencing with feasible antennas and our power limitations. The purpose of all this will be able to understand whether 600M can offer utility for ham radio-scale stations for emergency, and how its usability varies with conditions including aurora. Last night, using my 160M 1/2w sloper aimed at the Pacific Rim, I spotted SM6BHZ over 40 times on 502.4+. We are looking for info on successful approaches to generating WSPR and other modes on 500 kHz. I'm presently thinking of a transverter with my transceiver's transverter output, but I'm open and others in our group may want to try other approaches. 73, Jim, VE1JF ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01CA621E.DCDC3380 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Congratulations on #1000, G3XIZ!

 

I chair the Radio Amateurs of Canada (RAC) LF/MF/= HF Band Planning Committee, and several of us are interested in participating= in the recently-authorized Canadian Developmental Service experiments on 500= kHz. We are receiving active support on this effort from the Regulatory Affair= s wing of RAC, who are Industry Canada’s gatekeepers. This period is preli= minary to the coming world meeting where this will be discussed. We hope to get= several stations transmitting 25% of the time and a lot more across Canada receiving,= so it should add to WSPR’s activity and spotting at this frequency.

 

I’m not sure what you were saying about han= d-sent CW vs. WSPR; I also love CW but am amazed what WSPR can offer.  Othe= r authorized Canadian participants in this program are already using CW, and most= of my 100,000+ QSOs over 53+ years have been CW, but we are expecting our little grou= p to propose two frequencies (we must be specific) and use 503.9 WSPR beacon mode,= break in using the WSJT WSPR mode, and QSY to our “working frequency̶= 1;, where we can use any mode within the 1 kHz permissible bandwidth. Contenders= for working frequency QSOs might vary from some of the JT modes to OLIVIA= to CW depending on what signal levels we are experiencing with feasible ante= nnas and our power limitations. The purpose of all this will be able to underst= and whether 600M can offer utility for ham radio-scale stations for emerge= ncy, and how its usability varies with conditions including aurora.<= /p>

 

Last night, using my 160M 1/2w sloper aimed at th= e Pacific Rim, I spotted SM6BHZ over 40 times on 502.4+.

 

We are looking for info on successful approaches= to generating WSPR and other modes on 500 kHz. I’m presently thinki= ng of a transverter with my transceiver’s transverter output, but I̵= 7;m open and others in our group may want to try other approaches.

 

73,

 

Jim, VE1JF

 

 

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_0012_01CA621E.DCDC3380-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df04.mx.aol.com (rly-df04.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.17]) by air-df04.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDF041-5454b129f0720; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:19:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF044-5454b129f0720; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:19:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEmTg-00027Q-TU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:18:24 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEmTf-00027H-TN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:18:23 +0000 Received: from n18.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.145]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEmTf-0003PG-H7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:18:23 +0000 Received: from [68.142.194.243] by n18.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2009 16:18:17 -0000 Received: from [68.142.201.240] by t1.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2009 16:18:17 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp401.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2009 16:18:17 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 94390.41997.bm@omp401.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 56644 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2009 16:18:16 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=mp9aem41wLwyYHIMEcYjwOAgOw79F339WfQOnbv/viGRBj/z59sc71jf95Bf/erQMVCHj0o5LuDkEadGOsbLvgD3iItg0VFvbi5w/XsXI5KdqrQHk0RxPXPhwoNnKjpaN99cjt4fxf6psiXa3MAMGxu2qV81BlCNHqffqwVQ6Y0= ; Received: from host86-138-92-60.range86-138.btcentralplus.com (ken.h.wright@86.138.92.60 with login) by smtp144.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2009 08:18:16 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: 9Y6mUHuswBAgnrOsukIiNdFDf95uy_Dz34nY1hlg2liKgYD952sjbg-- X-YMail-OSG: 5sEC98kVM1lKy2Yxz5KttCFZj.XgrrLUFgpDDLVbeBhxZJdj7W2CbVsAKBchgSiwpPMQf2y6glUbebXxmRr56qXzVJD3cTPedR_TGbhFjOYsai908vGPoUfA4zUYKCmuI0ol2EYuTsFk4G3sEu8_MEuI6GiGOaCr7Fq6F._AkSkxQ0_lKtNDrF7PRDmdmmW1Kyrq33N7QubGSnXORYu6qvSVnV5AbZHWMf6lyPFBpQG8iqCQfwEFTE7nYHk6FeIdno.wfD29atjaGf6yiXsut3vAbv_U8OqY0sayOY9f6Pf3LfB33Sug_EqftdorqkxAF0BMg9lkFESPvWEGr27x31d4 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "Ken" To: References: <2746F3E144D3480AB85CD466920B1313@lindavideo> <003001ca70e7$24aaf3a0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <003c01ca70eb$0aa52120$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <4B126AF9.3050300@ntlworld.com> <005001ca70f9$f63904e0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <1259505915.4b1288fb018a7@imp.netikka.net> <1259509899.4b12988b783b8@imp.netikka.net> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:18:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv diode Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Paul. If I could locate some BY1800 or BY2000 (1800v & 2000 V) that would be better, but again have not found a stockist, the BY255 were from Germany. Ken M0KHW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul-Henrik" To: Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 3:51 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv diode Ok Ken Further I would not worry as much regarding the voltage rating of the equalizing resistors. Use physically large units with an adequate power rating (U^2 / R) and they will probably be fine. After all there are more stories out there about blown diodes than equalizing resistor flash-overs. Are you sure you can't squeeze in at least three diodes per leg? This would ease the equalizing resistor voltage requirements a bit too. Just two BY255's per leg sounds scary for 2.3kV peak. BR Paul-Henrik Quoting Ken : > Hi Paul. > On my last mailing I got the BY255 current wrong. > > Ken > > M0KHW > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul-Henrik" > To: > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 2:45 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv diode > > > BY255 should be a suitable building block rated 1300V PIV 3A. > > Use equalizing resistors in parallell with each diode, typical values used > are > 470...820kohm. Only controlled avalanche diodes can be series connected > safely > without a reverse voltage equalizing network. > > Make sure you implement a healthy safety marigin, ie. don't use just as > many > diodes needed to acheive the needed voltage rating. Using 3 amp diodes > when > 1 > amp is called for is no luxury either. You don't want to hear the sound of > an > angry rattlesnake from your thunderbox... this sound is often followed by > popping and oozing electrolytic capacitors. > > > Good luck and please don't get zapped > > Paul-Henrik > > Quoting mal hamilton : > > > Yes series for more V parallel for more I(amps) and preferable some R > > and > > C > > across each except they are really identical. > > mal/g3kev > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: David Towers > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 12:37 PM > > Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv diode > > > > > > Hi Mal > > surely "in series" to give a 4 KV diode at 1amp ? > > dave G8SZX > > > > > > > > mal hamilton wrote: > > Ken > > On the serious side, use 6 x 1Kvolt @ 1A in parallel if u are stuck. > > Don't get zapped > > 73 mal/g3kev > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: mal hamilton > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:28 AM > > Subject: LF: Re: 4kv diode > > > > > > Electric Chair Co > > Zapenda Cul de sac > > Hellda State > > Zip73 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Ken > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:04 AM > > Subject: LF: 4kv diode > > > > > > Hello All. > > I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or equivalent diode, BY4 4kv @ > > 1A, > > BY6 6kv @ 1A, I have searched the web and looked in Farnell, any ideas > > please. > > > > 73. > > Ken > > > > M0KHW > > > > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG082-a284b0004561dd; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:38:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG082-a284b0004561dd; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:38:31 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9fI6-0006rS-Hp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:37:18 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9fI6-0006rJ-48 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:37:18 +0000 Received: from smtp21.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.1]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9fI4-0007ov-9j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:37:18 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2119.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 45D4570000A1 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:37:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (213.212.194-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.194.212.213]) by msfrf2119.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id F1C1070000A0 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:37:04 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091115133704990.F1C1070000A0@msfrf2119.sfr.fr Message-ID: <000601ca65f8$bb996ed0$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:37:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! 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------=_NextPart_000_0003_01CA6601.1CEB17D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (rly-mg07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.113]) by air-mg07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG073-a244afd82461ff; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:59:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG076-a244afd82461ff; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:59:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8yXH-0003Qw-Om for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:58:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8yXH-0003Qn-9H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:58:07 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s21.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8yXG-0007T8-1i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:58:07 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W37 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s21.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:57:59 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [216.137.223.53] From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China To: Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:57:59 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <57a24ca70911130745v28eb2295y41cf2c9591cd044e@mail.gmail.com> References: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Nov 2009 15:57:59.0720 (UTC) FILETIME=[12C57A80:01CA647A] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_HEADER_CTYPE_ONLY=0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_e362cbc7-0423-4a11-9b69-34ea1c97ba18_" Subject: RE: LF: Last chance saloon 500 from Alaska X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING,MIME_HEADER_CTYPE_ONLY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_e362cbc7-0423-4a11-9b69-34ea1c97ba18_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Warren - still some way to go. The shack is still essentially "dark" bu= t I have been running very low power on a couple of transmitters Ive buil= t whilst in China and Singapore just to see if they actually put out power= ! =20 Im getting close to where I want to be on rx senstivity and s/n, which is= a big step forward this short vacation trip; have a little way to go on= 137 with some weak impulsive noise from somewhere, but very happy now wit= h 500.=20 =20 So its been a valuable couple of days at home. Trouble is of course theres= a whole list of other things that need doing and I get only a few days to= do them too...dig/push snow from A to B via C seems to be upper on this= list at the moment... =20 Ill be back for Christmas and hopefully by then Ill know where Ill be work= ing next year - hopefully in AK but not sure in this market place... =20 Laurence =20 > Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:45:44 -0500 > From: wd2xgj@gmail.com > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: Last chance saloon 500 from Alaska >=20 > Laurence, > When will you have TX capability from Alaska!? >=20 > --=20 > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ > WD2XSH/23 > WE2XEB/2 > WE2XGR/1 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Laurence BY3A-KL1X China > wrote: > > Im leaving for China in the morning to go back to work but will be lis= tening > > on CW/QRSS on 500 and 138 over the next hour or so if anyone wants to= have a > > go from Eu on the dawn/dusk Alaska path. > > > > The receiver will hopefully stay on here in Alaska and Ill be able to > > "listen" remotely. > > > > Over the Pole didnt sound too bright as DCF39 wasnt that strong here= but > > things do change pretty quickly at times. As ever Im still on Rx onl= y > > until I get more time. > > > > Ill be back here for Christmas... > > > > Laurence WE2 XPQ Part 5 Experimental > > KL1X Wasilla Palmer Alaska BP51 IP > > Will be KL1X/BY3A Tianjin China > > > > ________________________________ > > Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try= it now. >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ > WD2XSH/23 > WE2XEB/2 > WE2XGR/1 >=20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=3D9690331&ocid=3DPID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL= :en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009=3D --_e362cbc7-0423-4a11-9b69-34ea1c97ba18_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Warren - still some way to go. The shack is still essentially "dark" bu= t I have been running very  low power on a couple of transmitters Ive= built whilst in China and Singapore just to see if they actually put out= power!
 
 Im getting close to where I want to be on rx senstivity and s/n, whi= ch is a big step forward this short vacation trip; have a little way to go= on 137 with some weak impulsive noise from somewhere, but very happy now= with 500.
 
So its been a valuable couple of days at home. Trouble is of course= theres a whole list of other things that need doing and I get only a few= days to do them too...dig/push snow from A to B via  C seems to= be upper on this list at the moment...
 
Ill be back for Christmas and hopefully by then Ill know where Ill be work= ing next year - hopefully in AK but not sure in this market place...
 
Laurence
 
> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:45:44 -0500
>= From: wd2xgj@gmail.com
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>= Subject: Re: LF: Last chance saloon 500 from Alaska
>
> Laur= ence,
> When will you have TX capability from Alaska!?
>
&= gt; --
> 73 Warren K2ORS
> WD2XGJ
> WD2XSH/23
>= WE2XEB/2
> WE2XGR/1
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov= 13, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Laurence BY3A-KL1X China
> <hellozerohello= zero@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Im leaving for China in the morni= ng to go back to work but will be listening
> > on CW/QRSS on 500= and 138 over the next hour or so if anyone wants to have a
> >= go from Eu on the dawn/dusk Alaska path.
> >
> >= The receiver will hopefully stay on here in Alaska and Ill be able to
= > > "listen" remotely.
> >
> > Over the Pole didnt= sound too bright as DCF39 wasnt that strong here but
> > things= do change pretty quickly at times. As  ever  Im still on Rx onl= y
> > until I get more time.
> >
> > Ill be bac= k here for Christmas...
> >
> > Laurence WE2 XPQ Part 5= Experimental
> > KL1X Wasilla Palmer Alaska BP51 IP
> >= Will be KL1X/BY3A Tianjin China
> >
> > _______________= _________________
> > Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews or= ganized in one place. Try it now.
>
>
>
> -- > 73 Warren K2ORS
> WD2XGJ
> WD2XSH/23
> WE2XEB/2> WE2XGR/1
>

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Learn more. =3D --_e362cbc7-0423-4a11-9b69-34ea1c97ba18_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB081-aba4af78add1a2; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:22:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB038-aba4af78add1a2; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:22:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7KoD-0002Xb-GJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:20:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7KoC-0002XS-SI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:20:48 +0000 Received: from qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.59.212]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7KnH-00040v-Hk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:19:52 +0000 Received: from OMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.43]) by QMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 2oNR1d0020vyq2s5ErLg3W; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:20:40 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([76.23.233.102]) by OMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 2rLf1d0092DDHkk3RrLfjU; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:20:40 +0000 Message-ID: <007a01ca60eb$9cb96fe0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep" Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:20:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: 500 kHz TA report Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 500 kHz TA enthusiasts Suprisingly good TA conditions of late. Had nice QSO (cw) with Finbar, EI0CF, last night and again tonight with good signals reports both directions. These QSOs are about a month earlier than those of the past two years. Not sure if it's conditions or that we just didn't attempt it early enough last year. Jack, VX9ZZZ in Nova Scotia has also been in QSO with Finbar and reports hearing other EU stations besides Finbar even well before his sunset. I've heard Jack calling CQ evenings starting around NS sunset on 504 kHz and he tunes the band looking for answers. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 506.5 kHz From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (rly-dg10.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.94]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG073-5fd4b0c7f5c22d; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:50:48 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG108-5fd4b0c7f5c22d; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:50:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ND64i-000090-N0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:49:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ND64i-00008r-5V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:49:40 +0000 Received: from smtp823.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.233]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ND64h-00056F-4m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:49:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 6433 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2009 00:49:33 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=VXt7J5TcNeHZ1hkT4Mp2xi8WKJaLhwlifVP9rcH+rQb2NO00wTzbHjmhGntyiE+jLJRrh+ZGI3UhJGj4lhOJ294yTnxGOVjw2BA0q4CDffsSUSmETzu6Z59sBkBiv3fBO5YVXZAIQfVNKAzXEhoST3nJGq4ktLAz/uhiBSyVgE8= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@81.131.61.8 with login) by smtp823.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 2009 00:49:32 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: KHdpK2OswBBXlm4uxknbEiS4uYdJoGknHN90u4K8__lTafnafZg- X-YMail-OSG: Q5LLnHUVM1nlNyzZEe8hqjD8Z0wgdTast_gUTZEooHZ7GJq8eIQrJ13rL8Eb4FnT7lz.28PSzIfPXevBGyBJF2wVpbH81dHv1TgHzj3eDEvE_BGAvR.TiKZXl0YVCyWLO4EwAbHh.VevJPxZLvrJz3kzC.pxbO8UdtOD1igO8KtPTjKLb_aVAuhygBZp7IEb0CfPEGfgyTlDDaSeasbUK9fP_HuHerrVcRjOcvBsempkXOwkyeTP3QWXUPdbceY3cH_CzHck_ACVZEtT72QEsaWWeao3PSztarZdSJAwtJSAKsUfgkFxBwCKqNq6PNvq_8Z5LslOzgLSChRK8_MSGc5lbPE- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <006701ca6d69$3a7a55d0$0900a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <9afca2640911241140j230515e9kcbcaffd3911ccb82@mail.gmail.com> <9afca2640911241227o2150e5ddn71496f2423f50633@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:40:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: IRF510 500kHz PA stability issues - advice please Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Roger the FET should be rated to have a minimum operating voltage of at least 4 times the supply volts......... I guess you are using 12v?? This is quite inefficient with switching fets and the design impedance is very low. Are you using the right grade capacitors? This is most important, they should be Pulse Rated as used in Switch-Mode power supplies. Ordinary high voltage caps will not pass the level of RF current and will often fuse the connection between a foil and lead-out wire leading to a steadily lower value of capacitance and a mis-tuned PA. This is the case even with low power (a few watts) the RF current at low impedances can be several amps. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Lapthorn" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:27 PM Subject: Re: LF: IRF510 500kHz PA stability issues - advice please > Andy, > > Thanks for the quick feedback. The 500kHz antenna is a 5m long vertical with > a spiral top hat. It is fed via a (thickish) ferrite rod wound with the > required inductance to resonate and this is tapped at the 50 ohm point (very > low down - just a couple of turns). Well that is the general idea! > > Yes the IRF510 is rated at 100V. > > 73s > Roger > > > 2009/11/24 Andy Talbot > > > If you've studied the drain waveform when operating inrto a correct > > load, and assuming its all within design guidelines, then the trouble > > is because of nasty impedances presented by the antenna during the > > tuning process. > > > > What sort of antenna matching are you using? The often suggested idea > > of an an adjustable tap onto the loading coil can lead to damage as, > > when the antenna is detuned, the small number of turns of the link, > > with an untuned coil, appear not far different from a short circuit. > > A Class E PA, when presented with a slightly inductive short circuit > > can get a bit stressed. > > > > On my antenna over the years on 73, 137 now 500kHz the system has > > always been fed in series, using a ferrite tapped transformer to match > > load impedance. I kept well away from tapped or link windings as > > they are not easy to calculate or predict reliably. WIth a series fed > > system, a detuned antenna results in a high impedance. This may not > > always good news either to some class-E designs, but all my LF/MF PAs > > are completely open-circuit-proof voltage fed designs. The only > > true class-E one here was for 1.8MHz, and can be seen at > > http://www.g4jnt.com/TopbandPA.pdf . This was completely imune to > > open and short circuits and seemed very robust; but I did use the > > meatier and more robust higher voltage IRF540. Doesn't the IRF510 only > > have a 100V rating? > > > > Andy > > www.g4jnt.com > > > > This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health > > and safety police > > > > > > > > 2009/11/24 Roger Lapthorn : > > > I've been using a single IRF510 FET PA stage on 500kHz and it produces > > > around 6-7W of RF. But, when adjusting my antenna I've managed to damage > > > several devices now. I think the stage is running somewhere towards > > class-E > > > looking at the PA drain waveform on the scope and I believe either the > > stage > > > is going unstable or it is running in a condition in which too much > > current > > > (and heat) is taken and the device fails.500kHz teh ant > > > > > > Are there any simple "rules of thumb" or design/biasing/decoupling > > > guidelines to ensure that my devices don't destroy themselves with a less > > > than perfect load? > > > > > > Any simple advice would be appreciated. > > > > > > 73s > > > Roger G3XBM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > > > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > > > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > > > > > > > > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA052-a6b4af6feaf14; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:24:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA053-a6b4af6feaf14; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:24:01 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7BTv-0007bZ-2v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:23:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7BTu-0007bQ-N7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:23:14 +0000 Received: from mailout09.t-online.de ([194.25.134.84]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7BSx-0001VU-6S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:22:15 +0000 Received: from fwd00.aul.t-online.de by mailout09.t-online.de with smtp id 1N7BTr-0000Zl-00; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:23:11 +0100 Received: from [192.168.2.22] (Xdtqe8Z1whkdsOoHLOmO6g96WdBOeP3MnpW8zBcaTEUb3tvTV23JQrxbRw4G8rYZ4g@[93.211.84.232]) by fwd00.t-online.de with esmtp id 1N7BTk-0pNfai0; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:23:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de References:<20091108130141.ptdpp5udwsc8ksc4@webmail6.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To:<20091108130141.ptdpp5udwsc8ksc4@webmail6.kuleuven.be> To: X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.08.0003 Date: 08 Nov 2009 17:22 GMT Message-ID: <1N7BTk-0pNfai0@fwd00.t-online.de> X-ID: Xdtqe8Z1whkdsOoHLOmO6g96WdBOeP3MnpW8zBcaTEUb3tvTV23JQrxbRw4G8rYZ4g X-TOI-MSGID: 7d16e51f-b60e-4e33-9b1c-cb5e2f8e7c96 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: New allocations for Norwegian radio Amateurs Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear all to my understanding the 100 watts within the new norwegian rules for 500 kHz is the output power of the transmitter. HW? 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB "Rik Strobbe" schrieb: > just received this > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > ----- Doorgestuurd bericht van la2rr@broadpark.no ----- > Datum: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 12:50:29 +0100 > Van: Ole Garpestad > > Hi folks, > > For your information: > > > New secondary allocations for Norwegian radio amateurs > > As of November 6th 2009 the updated amateur radio licensing > regulations in Norway went into force. > The main news are the following new allocations made available to all > Norwegian radio amateurs (in addition to the 135,7 - 137,8 kHz and the > 7,1 - 7,2 MHz bands): > > LF: > 493 - 510 kHz on secondary basis, 100 W, A1A (CW) only. > > HF: > 5260 - 5410 kHz on secondary basis, all modes (6 kHz max bandwidth) > 24740-24890 kHz on secondary basis, 1kW (6 kHz max bandwidth) > > VHF > 70,0625-70,0875 MHz on secondary basis, 100 W, max bandwidth 16 kHz > 70,1375-70,1875 MHz on secondary basis, 100 W, max bandwidth 16 kHz > 70,2625-70,3125 MHz on secondary basis, 100 W, max bandwidth 16 kHz > 70,3625-70,3875 MHz on secondary basis, 100 W, max bandwidth 16 kHz > 70,4125-70,4625 MHz on secondary basis, 100 W, max bandwidth 16 kHz > > and some minor adjustments at SHF and EHF. > > As of today the full text is only available in Norwegian, but let me > know if you need any additional info, I will assist as best i can (the > URL for the Norwegian text is > http://www.lovdata.no/ltavd1/filer/sf-20091105-1340.html ). > > 73 > Ole, LA2RR > > > > > > > > ----- Einde doorgestuurd bericht ----- > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD083-9084b0b4f7774; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:14:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD058-9084b0b4f7774; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:14:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NClpl-0003mF-Ig for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 03:12:53 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NClpk-0003m6-VI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 03:12:53 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s29.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.40]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NClph-00072H-AX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 03:12:52 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W10 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s29.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:12:38 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [60.24.183.8] From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China To: Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:12:38 -0900 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Nov 2009 03:12:38.0563 (UTC) FILETIME=[FA2C3F30:01CA6CB3] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_7439f2a0-d09c-46dd-bb00-6eb9312c1b35_" Subject: LF: China QRT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_7439f2a0-d09c-46dd-bb00-6eb9312c1b35_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 I have to take the LF/MF antennae down this evening from the apartment roo= f as I pack to leave China -=20 =20 The Alaska grabber has been somewhat automated http://www.kl1x.com/screen.= html or if you like the raw screen its http://kl1x.com/Alaska00000.jpg =20 73 =20 Laurence KL1X in BY3A, but not for long. =20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: It works the way you want. 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The Alaska grabber has been somewhat automated http://www.kl1x.com/screen.html
or if you like the raw screen its http://kl1x.com/Alaska00000.jpg
 
73
 
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Learn more. =3D --_7439f2a0-d09c-46dd-bb00-6eb9312c1b35_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA053-a984af45c191ca; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:26:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA108-a984af45c191ca; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:25:48 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6SYH-0005kH-LW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:24:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6SYH-0005k8-09 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:24:45 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6SX7-0007mG-RR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:23:35 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so1437269bwz.4 for ; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:24:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xwHL+GsDf4tiP7aPjMkZHia+sZePr/PTSYGylkR3YII=; b=WkAV1lNldiBZ2+0eOsWD/p5zjUpkDnDDsjEk3vIZyG3PMnmToewBEduEc2cPh4WCJn PEoZigEKa15xlqF81Miz+cLeGgdOrtRDipHQyk7SD6aXYg0QnM+5yui96gZ/SQ1Mkvxh Y4iUwsvZQGY+S2fZyamkS5GLGz0pUKeB/Iboc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=vwz4ITy53d+t5NpIrQJOogFRxm+jH7lyVgP24DpXSmq4o7NZQQnL4xvCU2Vk3Q/AC7 iQyCHPEZURFZMWwIwOGGkNaFvD0U5M72BU1DboMfkWmEkDWaD5U6HVcH2zg+AeOVjRil eqjXTrGBakjFszMBklX4MArWZ5RSHtP8okWyM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.155.90 with SMTP id r26mr1091685bkw.81.1257528276058; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:24:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <00e201ca5f04$44df8e50$0201a8c0@Clemens04> References: <9afca2640911060845r17eb75daracad4f874c3a1c9c@mail.gmail.com> <00e201ca5f04$44df8e50$0201a8c0@Clemens04> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 17:24:36 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911060924v7d0e8714occ2b94c91d1128ff@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: G3XBM: 500kHz ERP increased by 6dB - WSPR reports please Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175cfa6c3081710477b71efe X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d258.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0015175cfa6c3081710477b71efe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Currently I am on around 0.503910kHz and operating 10% on TX. I will increase this to 25% TX later in the evening when more stations are listening. Clemens, I hope you will be able to decode me this evening! 73s Roger G3XBM 2009/11/6 Clemens Paul > Roger, > > are you using the same dial frquency of 0.503910 +/-20Hz as before ? > When does your transmission start? > > 73 > Clemens > DL4RAJ > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Roger Lapthorn > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Sent:* Friday, November 06, 2009 5:45 PM > *Subject:* LF: G3XBM: 500kHz ERP increased by 6dB - WSPR reports please > > Today I modified my 500kHz antenna. The 28MHz halo up at the top of the > 5-6m vertical section (which was the coax feed to the 28MHz halo) was > removed and replaced by a spiral inductance/ top capacity hat consisting of > around around 8 "spiralling in" turns in the space occupied by the original > halo. Seeing my initial reports from M0BMU I am some *5-6dB stronger*than I was before, I guess because more of the antenna current is in the > vertical section. The measured antenna current is not much different though. > > *Please listen for me on 500kHz WSPR* and let me know if I am now stronger > than before. > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > > ------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.52/2484 - Release Date: 11/06/09 > 07:38:00 > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --0015175cfa6c3081710477b71efe Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Currently I am on around 0.503910kHz and operating 10% on TX.=A0 I will in= crease this to 25% TX later in the evening when more stations are listenin= g.

Clemens, I hope you will be able to decode me this evening!
<= br> 73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/11/6 Clemens Pau= l <cpaul@gmx.net= >
Roger,
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are you using the=20 same dial frquency of 0.503910= +/-20Hz as=20 before=A0?
When does your transmission start?
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73
Clemens
DL4RAJ
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009= 5:45=20 PM
Subject: LF: G3XBM: 500kHz ERP= increased=20 by 6dB - WSPR reports please

Today I modified my 500kHz antenna. The 28MHz halo up at= the=20 top of the 5-6m vertical section (which was the coax feed to the 28MHz= halo)=20 was removed and replaced by a spiral inductance/ top capacity hat consis= ting=20 of around around 8 "spiralling in" turns in the space occupied= by the original=20 halo.=A0 Seeing my initial reports from M0BMU I am some 5-6dB=20 stronger than I was before, I guess because more of the antenna curr= ent is=20 in the vertical section. The measured antenna current is not much differ= ent=20 though.

Please listen for me on 500kHz WSPR and let= me=20 know if I am now stronger than before.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM =A0=20 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088


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--0015175cfa6c3081710477b71efe-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINME084-99d4b13fa233f; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:00:30 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME021-99d4b13fa233f; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:00:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NF9aN-0007Ow-Ri for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:58:51 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NF9aN-0007On-CI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:58:51 +0000 Received: from warsl404pip2.highway.telekom.at ([195.3.96.113] helo=email.aon.at) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NF9aL-0003QR-Av for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:58:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 12914 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2009 16:58:42 -0000 Received: from 91-115-29-238.adsl.highway.telekom.at (HELO [192.168.1.101]) ([91.115.29.238]) (envelope-sender ) by smarthub98.highway.telekom.at (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 30 Nov 2009 16:58:42 -0000 From: Gerhard Hickl To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Disposition-Notification-To: gerhard.hickl@aon.at Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:58:42 +0100 Message-ID: <1259600322.2708.33.camel@gerhard-desktop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.1 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Testtransmission 137,685 OE3GHB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi all! In the moment I'm trying to test my TX and my antenna. I'm going to transmit from 1800z to 2000z today. Probably a bit longer. My Antenna is a Marconi, 12m vertically/top-loaded. The loading coil is about 2,4 mH and antenna input is about 35 Watts. The QRG will be 137,685 and the text is "TEST OE3GHB" repeated every 10 Minutes. My VFO is also still in development-state an so QRG could vary some cps. Please take the time and try to receive my signal. Reports are very appreciated. Thank you in advance. 73 and cheers OE3GHB Gerhard From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (rly-dc04.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.33]) by air-dc09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC092-b174afb281f382; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:09:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC043-b174afb281f382; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:09:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8KQV-0004Hx-JW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:08:27 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8KQU-0004Ho-Sa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:08:26 +0000 Received: from mx01.infotech.at ([213.174.240.1]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8KQS-0006fZ-CI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:08:26 +0000 Received: from [213.174.228.217] by mx01.infotech.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8KQR-0005yS-9o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:08:23 +0100 Message-ID: <4AFB27FB.6020702@inext.at> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:09:15 +0100 From: Oberreiter Oswald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1AC807D90B0B121E1F9A@kabelmail.de> In-Reply-To: <1AC807D90B0B121E1F9A@kabelmail.de> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: what is it? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) hallo Uwe ! danke fuer den raport , das ist ein qso von oe5odl mit oy2is beginn 0070z . du siehst hier nur oe5odl . freilaufender vfo mit einigen herz drift ,in qrss3 merkt man das kaum 73 de ossi oe5odl Uwe Jannsen schrieb: > Hi all, > > pse see: > > http://dj8wx-dl.de/captu38 > > regards > Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb01.mx.aol.com (rly-mb01.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.154]) by air-mb04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB043-cec4b034702271; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:00:06 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB018-cec4b034702271; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:59:48 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAYsk-0007hQ-TY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:58:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAYsk-0007hH-Ew for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:58:50 +0000 Received: from nina.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.76]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAYsi-0003kC-En for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:58:50 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by nina.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id nAI0wdS1017398 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:28:39 -0330 Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:28:39 -0330 (NST) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <961313.39040.qm@web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-ID: X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-1719232024-1686048482-1258133686=:14513" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 ---1719232024-1686048482-1258133686=:14513 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII; FORMAT=flowed Content-ID: Blimey... I've been exposed as a PIRATE! Polly, me parrot, (Newfoundland Puffin) is concerned I might be disciplined a with keel hauling or the cat-o-nine-tails! Shiver me timbers! For those who have worked VX9MRC and are losing sleep for fear of being asked to walk the plank by their licensing authority, please take comfort in the following: The General Radio Regulations defina a radio station as "a place wherein radio apparatus is located." VO1NA is duly "licensed" in Canada and is the radio station wherein is located the radiotelegraphic apparatus of VX9MRC, thanks to the kind efforts of the Marconi Radio Club of Newfoundland. The regulations state "No operator of an amateur station shall communicate with radio stations other than stations licensed in the amateur service" Therefore, any station that communicates with VX9MRC is communicating with a station licensed in the amateur serivce and does so accordance with the regulations. Alas, ye olde PIRATE who can evidently lob 10^30 big (600m) photons per second across the brine pond is but an amateur in legal matters. 73 Arrh me Hearties!!! Joe VO1NA On Fri, 13 Nov 2009, Andy Talbot wrote: > And who do you think would bother if you did work one ? > Who would even care ? > > Andy > www.g4jnt.com > > this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny state > > > 2009/11/13 M0FMT > >> The whole setup looks decidedly dodgy to me. If they are Pirates how >> would it affect my license if the opportunity arose for me to work one and I >> did? The only place I know where I am licensed work a non Amateur station is >> on 5megs and that can only be a UK Mill station. >> >> It's a question of how much you value your license I suppose. >> >> 73 petefmt >> >> >> --- On *Fri, 13/11/09, Graham * wrote: >> >> >> From: Graham >> Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature >> stations ?? >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 14:53 >> >> Scott >> >> SO.... Matter and antimatter cannot coexist at close range for more than a >> small fraction of a second because they collide with and annihilate each >> other, releasing large quantities of energy in the form of gamma rays >> >> Got it now .. gamma rays are electromagnetic ..hence radio waves are >> produced .. which may suffer (constructive interference) or (destructive >> interference) resulting in large variations in amplitude at the point of >> observation ..... >> >> Thanks ! >> >> G .. >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Scott Tilley" >>> >> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:29 PM >> To: >>> >> Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature >> stations ?? >> >>> >>> Hi John >>> >>> VX is in developmental service (same idea as US stations), EI in amateur >> service... 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Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:38:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB024-cf04b027d0fd; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:38:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NALQr-0001ug-7l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:37:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NALQq-0001uX-LV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:37:08 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s27.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.38]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NALQp-0006eG-M4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:37:08 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W15 ([65.55.116.7]) by blu0-omc1-s27.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:37:01 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [221.198.50.244] From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China To: Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:37:01 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20091117101339.C0775F3863@smtps02.kuleuven.be> References: <1f0624b90911160805u4435bd18ue805924594d8b997@mail.gmail.com>,<20091117081718.BDD6EF3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be>,<1f0624b90911170146i3b3201abh55b54fd75e56fa50@mail.gmail.com>,<4B027512.30004@ukonline.co.uk>,<20091117101339.C0775F3863@smtps02.kuleuven.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Nov 2009 10:37:01.0256 (UTC) FILETIME=[E57C1480:01CA6771] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_1f1707c1-f651-40c9-b1bc-0ec15939af03_" Subject: LF: Condx - and SDR IQ audio flatness? X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_1f1707c1-f651-40c9-b1bc-0ec15939af03_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Congrats all - =20 its a very (very) quiet night so far on LF/MF which may signify either ve= ry good or very bad, and am present looking for signals from NA - =20 =20 Im not that good to tell you which until Eu gets dark. Its not been very= good the past day or so with mediocre signals on 137 from DCF39 et al -= still Ill be looking on any desired freq.=20 =20 I can hear Loran clatter on 137 which means the local QRN is very low and= NDB "DD" (Located near Xlbreast, China) :-) is putting is a Fully develop= ed signal.=20 =20 Nice clear night here already and looking for some nice shooting stars..sa= w a couple of=20 spectacular ones last week in Mexico. =20 Anybody want to comment on whether their audio spectrum output from their= SDR IQ is a bit "lumpy" with not exactly flat levelling across the 1-4Khz= range? Maybe my soundcard but I see some variations of a couple of dBs on= this one... =20 Laurence KL1 X in BY3A =20 Still jetlagged. =20 =20 =20 =20 > Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:13:41 +0100 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be > Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6 >=20 > Peter, >=20 > likewise, I saw on Joe's website that you had a QRSS3 QSO with him=20 > earlier some days ago. >=20 > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >=20 > At 11:04 17/11/2009, you wrote: > >Congratulations Rik > > > >Peter, G3LDO > > > Rik, > > > > > > Well done. > > > > > > I should be in a position to attempt the same as I saw solid QRS > > > signals from Joe. > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > > > 2009/11/17 Rik Strobbe > > > > > > > > > Gary, All, > > > > > > yesterday I could copy VX9MRC in QRSS3 with a surprising strong > > > signal as early as 18 UTC, when I launched Argo. > > > Throughout the evening the signal was strong and with little QSB > > > from 19-22UTC, after that the signal became weaker with much more QS= B. > > > Probably because I had a sked with Joe at 22:40 UTC ;-) . > > > But despite all we managed to complete the QSO with both way M > > > report (would have been a solid O earlier the evening). > > > A first ON-VE QSO on 500kHz and with +/- 4075km a new DX record for= me > > > Joe transmitted on 507.770 and I on 501.190. > > > Between 19 and 22 UTC the signal was audible most of the time and > > > would have been CW copy if it were not squeezed between the NDB > > > "Z" carrier at 507.980 (S9+ here) the SM6BHZ CW/SSB test > > > transmissions (up to S9) and a local birdie on 507.600. > > > > > > For the QSO I was running 300W into my 11m high / 25m long lazy-L > > > antenna, estimated ERP about 1.5 Watt (at best, if the greenery > > > does not absorb too much) > > > > > > The night from Sunday - Monday I left Argo running, VX9MRC > > > produced a good signal all through the night and faded out at > > > 07UTC. This would mean that there is a potential transatlantic > > > path on 500kHz for 13h a day !!! > > > > > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > > > > > At 17:05 16/11/2009, you wrote: > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > Good signals from both stations last night. > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo. > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 >=20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=3DPID24727::T= :WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009v2=3D --_1f1707c1-f651-40c9-b1bc-0ec15939af03_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Congrats all -
 
 its a very (very) quiet night so far on LF/MF which may signify = ;either very good or very bad, and am present looking for signals from NA&= nbsp;-
 
 
Im not that good to tell you which until Eu gets dark. Its not been very= good the past day or so with mediocre signals on 137 from DCF39 et al &nb= sp;- still Ill be looking on any desired freq.
 
I can hear Loran clatter on 137 which means the local QRN is very low and= NDB "DD" (Located near Xlbreast, China) :-) is putting is a Fully develop= ed signal. 
 
Nice clear night here already and looking for some nice shooting star= s..saw a couple of
spectacular ones last week in Mexico.
 
Anybody want to comment on whether their audio spectrum output from= their SDR IQ is a bit "lumpy" with not exactly flat levelling across the= 1-4Khz range? Maybe my soundcard but I see some variations of a couple of= dBs on this one...
 
Laurence KL1 X in BY3A
 
Still jetlagged.
 
 
 
 
> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:13:41 +0100
> To: rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org
> From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be
> Subject: Re:= LF: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6
>
> Peter,
>
>= likewise, I saw on Joe's website that you had a QRSS3 QSO with him
&g= t; earlier some days ago.
>
> 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T
> > At 11:04 17/11/2009, you wrote:
> >Congratulations Rik
= > >
> >Peter, G3LDO
> > > Rik,
> > >= ;
> > > Well done.
> > >
> > > I shoul= d be in a position to attempt the same as I saw solid QRS
> > >= ; signals from Joe.
> > >
> > > Gary - G4WGT.
&= gt; > >
> > > 2009/11/17 Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@fys= .kuleuven.be
> > > <mailto:rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>&= gt;
> > >
> > > Gary, All,
> > >
&g= t; > > yesterday I could copy VX9MRC in QRSS3 with a surprising stro= ng
> > > signal as early as 18 UTC, when I launched Argo.
&= gt; > > Throughout the evening the signal was strong and with little= QSB
> > > from 19-22UTC, after that the signal became weaker= with much more QSB.
> > > Probably because I had a sked with= Joe at 22:40 UTC ;-) .
> > > But despite all we managed to co= mplete the QSO with both way M
> > > report (would have been= a solid O earlier the evening).
> > > A first ON-VE QSO on 50= 0kHz and with +/- 4075km a new DX record for me
> > > Joe tran= smitted on 507.770 and I on 501.190.
> > > Between 19 and 22= UTC the signal was audible most of the time and
> > > would= have been CW copy if it were not squeezed between the NDB
> > &g= t; "Z" carrier at 507.980 (S9+ here) the SM6BHZ CW/SSB test
> >= > transmissions (up to S9) and a local birdie on 507.600.
> >= >
> > > For the QSO I was running 300W into my 11m high /= 25m long lazy-L
> > > antenna, estimated ERP about 1.5 Watt= (at best, if the greenery
> > > does not absorb too much)
= > > >
> > > The night from Sunday - Monday I left Arg= o running, VX9MRC
> > > produced a good signal all through the= night and faded out at
> > > 07UTC. This would mean that ther= e is a potential transatlantic
> > > path on 500kHz for 13h a= day !!!
> > >
> > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T
>= > >
> > > At 17:05 16/11/2009, you wrote:
> >= >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > Good= signals from both stations last night.
> > >
> > >= ; Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.
> > >
> > >
> >= >
> > >
>
>

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Learn more. =3D --_1f1707c1-f651-40c9-b1bc-0ec15939af03_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de01.mx.aol.com (rly-de01.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.137]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE022-4b24b08433a6e; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:45:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE017-4b24b08433a6e; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:45:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBvsO-0000oh-IR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:44:08 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBvsO-0000oY-3P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:44:08 +0000 Received: from mta11.charter.net ([216.33.127.80]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBvsL-0002bq-Od for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:44:08 +0000 Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.10]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.02.04 201-2219-117-106-20090629) with ESMTP id <20091121194349.LZPE8038.mta11.charter.net@imp10> for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:43:49 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([66.189.74.84]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id 7vjp1d0021p78xe05vjpKZ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:43:49 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=dp29cS1FIpZGZuANZwQA:9 a=PRs45g_CN9bHfqTB7ocODxraN1wA:4 Message-ID: <4B0842F5.3080401@charter.net> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:43:49 -0500 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20091120134448.AZWVG.1555689.root@mp17> In-Reply-To: <20091120134448.AZWVG.1555689.root@mp17> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WD2XES WSPR 136.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) No reports received. 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John, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (rly-dd08.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.155]) by air-dd09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD093-b8f4b015f661d1; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:19:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD081-b8f4b015f661d1; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:19:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA2LV-0005sL-Ef for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:14:21 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA2LT-0005sC-T4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:14:20 +0000 Received: from mx33.mail.ru ([94.100.176.47]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA2LP-0007ti-Jl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:14:17 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=11795 helo=EFREMOV) by mx33.mail.ru with asmtp id 1NA2LJ-000OLK-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:14:09 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <001e01ca66c7$10041af0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: References: <004a01ca66be$7a813d30$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:14:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 500 daytime Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Mal, I am ready to receive here your qrss3. Though here evening... 73 Andrey Now active on 500 for daytime prop ck g3kev From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md09.mx.aol.com (rly-md09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.147]) by air-md04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD042-9234b0b0bf4261; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:26:17 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD093-9234b0b0bf4261; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:25:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NChLJ-00035B-De for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:25:09 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NChLI-000352-Sy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:25:08 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NChLH-0005r5-RX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:25:08 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81CD94C80B3 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:25:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B05A4C80DB for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:25:02 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B0B0BBE.9000109@online.fr> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:25:02 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <57a24ca70911231159k557ba717lbb0cf31cc7eb6e70@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <57a24ca70911231159k557ba717lbb0cf31cc7eb6e70@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: OE5ODL now ! 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------=_NextPart_000_0047_01CA66BE.7A184230-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df06.mx.aol.com (rly-df06.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.19]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF032-55c4aff6d5111a; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:54:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF067-55c4aff6d5111a; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:54:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9VEy-0002yX-Gd for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 02:53:24 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9VEy-0002yO-4k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 02:53:24 +0000 Received: from mcgi63.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.193]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9VEw-0007c0-H2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 02:53:24 +0000 Received: from mcgi63.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi63.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2DB211516 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:53:16 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [81.195.15.97] by mcgi63.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:53:11 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:53:11 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <287859382.1258239176.158750212.87677@mcgi38.rambler.ru> Message-Id: <1005027974.1258253591.69670536.14581@mcgi63.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Grabber is ON Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Now grabber is off. Looking locally to 507.770 and 507.300, but nothing any trace up to mode-30. * Roman RW3ADB [Sun, 15 Nov 2009 01:52:56 +0300]: > > > Hi Chris, Peter, LF! > My grabber started on up to finished your activity. > qrss.nm.ru -> grabber. > Looking to 501.2-501.36 and 502.0 > Whats a real freq, Peter? > -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD051-b6b4af8be7dc4; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:14:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD035-b6b4af8be7dc4; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:14:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7fIl-0005Vc-Dy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:13:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7fIl-0005VT-0j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:13:43 +0000 Received: from smtp832.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.189.246]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7fHu-00031S-LI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:12:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 62150 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2009 01:13:35 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=pTk5JRW6R16t1LYwNmp8f+PBZbck45NSaVyNkT+giu9+Y+8X9kAGeQA8keFUJ2c1ZB99d6KSmy0QdkgEMpieUktGUIoV9shzHoZvxeMiyC57ANw/jv5pSFIMPPuSu4xPxRHvK2i2TvYeRezkwVhyXWv97vgXrupe+J1QwJco6Vk= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@81.131.17.92 with login) by smtp832.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Nov 2009 01:13:35 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: KHdpK2OswBBXlm4uxknbEiS4uYdJoGknHN90u4K8__lTafnafZg- X-YMail-OSG: 81PIMC8VM1kQxaewYPlfNalCIYbIMMYfhM7pwVwPkXLkBugv2uIsoih7bbsxSq5QKQnkXjcGtfKa5HNLJE4s_lJpg4lHQDqx0mC99xj8JWHHywxYui9t2vKN3FAJCzV3sp3Ch0c1AN9dLhSSIhhSmnE7i9iVhc1SvwoB_8iXJ.BevUnTaHZSqbPCz3DgtkyS4K8KOArhAUlMOO.bNuSaKT3bk_G3P93usS0d9YV8iFg7XURlaUKfn8FCvZoLZgyr82n.bONHOtPYJ7Si7smPvGM0uSsMEU45MAiwxdMNH7UMYOjJUBE5irSILSmNQYml3nAp9PeFXvTnIMoTu3TOVDgImQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <007c01ca61a3$08cac370$0900a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <001b01ca6086$cd0966b0$0617aac0@jimdesk> <004101ca60ab$ef362e60$0900a8c0@lark> <4AF7224D.4010707@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <009601ca60c5$84c5f4b0$0900a8c0@lark> <700100929.1257814708.48698216.38628@mcgi66.rambler.ru> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:12:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Losses due to ant in tree? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Roman, good idea! the only trouble is that by the time they start to grow in John's island their trunks make an angle of about 25 degrees to the ground pointing East :-)) He would need to build a stone windbreak around it. Wow that is a good idea too, he could use that as a tower until the tree grows tall enough :-)) Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roman RW3ADB" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:58 AM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Losses due to ant in tree? > * Alan Melia [Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:25:13 > -0000]: > > Yeah well in your case,John, the nearest tree is on the Mainland > > May be sending to John an russian oak? It will be great mast after 600 > years... > > > Best Wishes > > Alan G3NYK > > > > hi! 73! > Roman, RW3ADB > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John P-G" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 7:55 PM > > Subject: Re: LF: Re: Losses due to ant in tree? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alan Melia wrote: > > > > May thumbnail approack says put a vertical at least > > > > as far away from trees, <...> as it is high. Not aways easy! > > > > > > > > > > > > > Depends where you live :-) > > > > > > http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/DCP_2235.JPG > > > > > > John > > > GM4SLV > > > Treeless Shetland > > > > > > > > > > -- > Roman RW3ADB. > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db01.mx.aol.com (rly-db01.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.76]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB104-aa74b01b91c374; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:42:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB015-aa74b01b91c374; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:42:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA8Nn-000082-Oi for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:41:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA8Nn-00007t-90 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:41:07 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA8Nm-00029j-EQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:41:07 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82EA051C006 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:40:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 843A9F3862 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:40:56 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id 6AF0618056; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:40:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from 213.137-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (213.137-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.247.137.213]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:40:56 +0100 Message-ID: <20091116214056.d7nc9v7srowggc88@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:40:56 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.247.137.213 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR Entry Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Andy, note that the 2 hits have the same timestamp but different frequency. You can more of these double "fake" hits: 2009-01-30 20:00 Y23LWM 0.137592 -26 0 AC23 10 DF6NM =20 JN59nk 18083 194 2009-01-30 20:00 Y23LWM 0.137568 +8 0 AC23 10 DF6NM =20 JN59nk 18083 194 2009-10-22 05:18 CE8QNK 0.503890 -21 -3 OB23 0.005 =20 SQ2BXI JO94gj 15730 291 2009-10-22 05:18 CE8QNK 0.503969 -25 -3 OB23 0.005 =20 SQ2BXI JO94gj 15730 291 2009-11-08 04:50 G17LSZ 0.503817 -27 -2 GA37 0.01 SQ2BXI =20 JO94gj 15730 62 2009-11-08 04:50 G17LSZ 0.503829 -26 -2 GA37 0.01 SQ2BXI =20 JO94gj 15730 62 2009-11-12 21:12 E51OOP 0.503999 -33 3 GB06 0.1 G4WGT =20 IO83qo 14761 42 2009-11-12 21:12 E51OOP 0.503810 -25 3 GB06 0.1 G4WGT =20 IO83qo 14761 42 2009-05-17 21:28 EN6WV 0.503858 -17 -4 MD07 200 GM4ISM =20 IO85ar 13421 324 2009-05-17 21:28 EN6WV 0.503850 -24 -4 MD07 200 GM4ISM =20 IO85ar 13421 324 2009-09-08 19:42 NE9GWP 0.503876 -24 1 OG12 0.5 G0HNW =20 IO93cn 13386 318 2009-09-08 19:42 NE9GWP 0.503851 -23 1 OG12 0.5 G0HNW =20 IO93cn 13386 318 2009-09-19 10:16 1Y3X 0.503556 -33 1 AD87 2 K1JT FN20 =20 13336 61 2009-09-19 10:16 1Y3X 0.503468 -32 1 AD87 2 K1JT FN20 =20 13336 61 and so on ... 73, Rik Quoting Andy Talbot : > Found in the database. Two consecutive hits with the same details > suggests an incorrectly set station.. > > Uraguay, in Central Africa !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > 2009-11-16 19:06=A0=A0CW5PPT=A0=A00.503997=A0=A0-30=A0=A03=A0=A0KJ31=A0= =A0+53=A0=A0199.526=A0=A0G4WGT > IO83qo=A0=A06399=A0=A03976 > 2009-11-16 19:06=A0=A0CW5PPT=A0=A00.503849=A0=A0-15=A0=A03=A0=A0KJ31=A0= =A0+53=A0=A0199.526=A0=A0G4WGT > IO83qo=A0=A06399=A0=A03976 > > > Andy > www.g4jnt.com > > this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny state > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db04.mx.aol.com (rly-db04.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.79]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB092-ac14afb16d756; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:56:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB047-ac14afb16d756; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:56:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8JHF-000427-3b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:54:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8JHE-00041y-G3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:54:48 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8JGX-0008FY-BK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:54:06 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A4451C006; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:54:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F2EA31E702; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:54:34 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id B3BC818056; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:54:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from 123.102-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (123.102-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [87.64.102.123]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:54:33 +0100 Message-ID: <20091111205433.kpticpwlwooc8s0s@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:54:33 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "jwfisher@alumni.princeton.edu" Cc: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <20091111075814.94NGA.7351.root@tormtz04> In-Reply-To: <20091111075814.94NGA.7351.root@tormtz04> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 87.64.102.123 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: 500 kHz WSPR de VE1JF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Jim, I just returned home (19:45 UTC) and started WSPRing. WX is still dry. If the WX forecast is ok I leave the TX on after =20 going to bed (+/- 23UTC) otherwise I will shut down. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting "jwfisher@alumni.princeton.edu NOT" : > OK, Rik--unless I hear from you today that the wx did NOT stay dry =20 > and you are not going to be QRV, I will set up around 1830 to =20 > monitor and spot on 600M for at least a couple of hours. Is that OK? =20 > Otherwise, I have switched from 160 WSPR overnight to 15 WSPR and =20 > plan to run that all day unless my antenna projects require the rig. > > MNI TNX for the rig info. I have a transverter output available so =20 > believe I could skip the attenuator, but otherwise I am thinking =20 > along similar lines. > > Might it be feasible for you to send me a circuit diagram by an =20 > attachment I could forward to my colleagues? > > 73, > > Jim > you might be interested in the QTH as shown on QRZ.COM, VE1JF.COM =20 > and (unless it is replaced with another picture) http://rac.ca/tca. > ---- Rik Strobbe wrote: >> Jim, >> >> the transverter is in the prototype / breadboard stage. >> It is original in the way that it is my own design, but it is just a >> classic transverter: >> - Kenwood TS440 on 4.5MHz (in fact 4.5024MHz USB for WSPR) at minimum >> power (abt. 1 Watt) >> - 30dB attenuator (1W to 1mW) >> - DBM (SBL-1) fed with a 4MHz xtal osc as downmixer to 500kHz (502.4kHz= ) >> - single transistor (BC550c) post amp, about 10mW out at 50 Ohm >> - 5 pole LPF >> - PA 10mW to 50W >> - 7 pole LPF >> - antenna >> >> I will be transmitting WSPR tonight (11-11) if WX stays dry. >> >> 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >> >> Quoting "jwfisher@alumni.princeton.edu NOT" : >> >> > transverter design original? could I see details? >> > >> > 11 November would be a possibility for me to monitor for you. >> > >> > 73, >> > >> > Jim >> > ---- Rik Strobbe wrote: >> >> Hello Jim, >> >> >> >> > Not tonight, Rik--I am committed to compared 160 WSPR with VE2DC= in >> >> > Quebec (who will also be >> >> > Participating in the 500 kHz experiments and has already copied an >> >> > M0 there); anyhow, I >> >> > Have to leave before 2200 for a meeting this evening. Tx is on 160 >> >> > WSPR and I'll turn spotting back >> >> > on as I leave the house. (Still dial-up around here, so it's eithe= r >> >> > internet or telephone!) >> >> > >> >> > Would be happy to do it some other evening, though! >> >> No problem, we will try another night. >> >> >> >> >> >> > How do you generate a WSPR signal on 500 kHz? >> >> Kenwood TS440 on 4.5MHz into a homebrew transverter 4.5MHz --> >> >> 500kHz + 50W PA >> >> >> >> 73, Rik ON7YD >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb12.mx.aol.com (rly-mb12.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.170]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMB021-d424b11e2c31c4; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:56:06 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB126-d424b11e2c31c4; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:56:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEZwJ-0006Tp-1N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:55:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEZwI-0006Tg-LL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:55:06 +0000 Received: from lnx503.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de ([130.83.156.232]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEZwI-0002hy-1I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:55:06 +0000 Received: from FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.212.129]) by lnx503.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.14.2/8.14.2/HRZ/PMX) with SMTP id nAT2t5fm019266 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:55:05 +0100 (envelope-from schaefer@hst.tu-darmstadt.de) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de) by FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de with AVK MailGateway; for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:55:05 +0100 Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:55:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AA6B@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> In-Reply-To: <4B11C56B.10606@mail.ru> X-MS-Has-Attach: Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: LF: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz Thread-Index: AcpwjrGu3SdHS93hQhyyayWfoIl3zAAEC3og From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= To: X-AVK-Virus-Check: AVB 19.594;28.11.2009 X-PMX-TU: seen v0.99a by 5.5.8.383112, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2009.11.29.24527 X-PMX-SPAMCHECK: outgoing mail X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: AW: LF: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hey Dmitry,=20 Also tny for the QSO and the picture! Sri for my rx problems. The BF981 in my Converter seems do be damaged and= so I had to use the IC706 instead of the K2 ;-) Your locator is KO73DG? That would be 1804km and so a new record for me!= Mni tnx!=20 cuagn, 73, Stefan From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD103-9104aee29ce353; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:37:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD068-9104aee29ce353; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:37:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N4kuW-0003Wu-MC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 00:36:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N4kuW-0003Wl-8Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 00:36:40 +0000 Received: from mailout04.t-online.de ([194.25.134.18]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N4ksz-00041W-9J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 00:35:05 +0000 Received: from fwd05.aul.t-online.de by mailout04.t-online.de with smtp id 1N4kuS-0002L6-00; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 01:36:36 +0100 Received: from [192.168.2.22] (rXAqc-ZG8hpRbRP6TaeLXYSmwzfTOaP-K8I1vU+hbeY2v5jAXrESJsx3WZ3alfpZwe@[93.211.74.246]) by fwd05.t-online.de with esmtp id 1N4kuS-0Udqts0; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 01:36:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de To: "LF Group RSGB" X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.08.0003 Date: 02 Nov 2009 00:25 GMT Message-ID: <1N4kuS-0Udqts0@fwd05.t-online.de> X-ID: rXAqc-ZG8hpRbRP6TaeLXYSmwzfTOaP-K8I1vU+hbeY2v5jAXrESJsx3WZ3alfpZwe X-TOI-MSGID: 1a9ca8af-29d0-46b8-aeb4-f6e7f0ab8681 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: SM6BGP and EI0CF again in eastern Bavaria Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear all, Around 23.00 UTC on November 1st 2009 SM6BGP could be heard again in JN68GN beaconing 559 with QSB on 501,4 kHz. At about the same time EI0CF (readable up to 569 on 501,1 kHz) had a CW-QSO with VX9MRC but deep qsb had been a problem on both sides. Keeping overs short has been a temporary solution until the qsb became too severe. 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc09.mx.aol.com (rly-mc09.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.93]) by air-mc01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC012-d934b07a01e23f; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:09:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC093-d934b07a01e23f; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:09:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBl0S-00039U-Qk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:07:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBl0S-00039L-EX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:07:44 +0000 Received: from smtp06.online.nl ([194.134.42.51]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBl0R-0005vp-NC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:07:44 +0000 Received: from smtp06.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp06.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C4CB96059 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:07:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (s5593e077.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.147.224.119]) by smtp06.online.nl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:07:37 +0100 (CET) From: To: Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:07:37 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <003001ca69dd$54c906f0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp06.online.nl) X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.7 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: RE: WE2XGR/2 QRSS20 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01CA6A8A.120EA060" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,NO_REAL_NAME, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01CA6A8A.120EA060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Good signal Jay, captured at 0:00 utc 73 Victor PA3FNY -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens jrusgrove@comcast.net Verzonden: vrijdag 20 november 2009 13:31 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS20 Thanks to Rik, Nicolas, Laurence (China!), Garry and Marco for successful reception reports...and others that looked for the signal. Tonight WE2XGR/2 will transmit "X" in QRSS20 (with cw ID at the beginning of the X) from ~ 2130 to ~ 2330Z. A slight frequency change was requested. Tonight's operation will be on 506.506 kHz. As always, reports are greatly appreciated. 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1N8Fve-0003JE-Qw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:20:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8Fve-0003J5-GP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:20:18 +0000 Received: from smarthost3.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8Fuw-0006xs-Qd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:19:35 +0000 Received: from bb-87-82-24-206.ukonline.co.uk ([87.82.24.206] helo=[192.168.0.3]) by smarthost3.mail.uk.easynet.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N8Fvc-000PqM-FE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:20:16 +0000 Message-ID: <4AFAE467.2000309@ukonline.co.uk> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:20:55 +0000 From: Peter Dodd User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001101ca621e$dcdc3380$96949a80$@princeton.edu> <20091110192309.4v8agotbs0k0gocs@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <004a01ca6249$d91531e0$8b3f95a0$@princeton.edu> <20091110222951.cr4qtrqagcwcowok@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <4AFAAE9C.1070304@ukonline.co.uk> <011e01ca62e0$fa406140$0201a8c0@Clemens04> In-Reply-To: <011e01ca62e0$fa406140$0201a8c0@Clemens04> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Ferrite characteristics Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Clemens, That little program is really brilliant and is just what I wanted. Thank very much and to the others who have replied regarding this subject. Regards Peter, G3LDO > the best aid I know is the mini Ring Core Calculator V1.2 > which is freeware > http://www.dl5swb.de/html/mini_ring_core_calculator.htm > > It is a fantastic tool for known and unknown toroid materials. > For determining the µrel of an unknown toroid you wind a few turns > on it,measure the inductance,enter the inductance and the physical > dimensions of the core into the program and it gives you all you want > to know including µrel. > And the results are really correct. > Very handy with Amidon toroids,too. > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb06.mx.aol.com (rly-mb06.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.164]) by air-mb08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB083-d0d4b0930283a2; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:36:10 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB061-d0d4b0930283a2; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:35:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCBel-0002qp-SA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:35:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCBel-0002qg-HM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:35:07 +0000 Received: from nina.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.76]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCBek-0003tT-M7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:35:07 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by nina.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id nAMCYxF7004781 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:04:59 -0330 Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:04:59 -0330 (NST) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 2.0 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: RE: LF: VX9MRC Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, NO_REAL_NAME,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi VIctor. Yes indeed there are dog bones... and a lot of variability in the signals. There seems to be a lot of QSB on 500 kHz even on the shorter paths. 73 and thank-you Joe VO1NA On Sun, 22 Nov 2009, victor13@online.nl wrote: > Hello Joe, > > dogbones around 2:00z > > 73 > Victor > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens jcraig@mun.ca > Verzonden: zaterdag 21 november 2009 22:26 > Aan: blacksheep > Onderwerp: Re: LF: VX9MRC > > > Hello Victor, > Thank-you for the report of early reception. > > 73 > Joe > > On Sat, 21 Nov 2009, victor13@online.nl wrote: > >> First traces VX9MRC at 507.77KHz 19:50 utc >> >> 73 >> >> Victor >> PA3FNY >> JO22NC > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db01.mx.aol.com (rly-db01.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.76]) by air-db01.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDB014-aa94b12e2c42fb; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:08:44 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB017-aa94b12e2c42fb; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:08:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEqzG-000431-MX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:07:18 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEqzG-00042s-3u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:07:18 +0000 Received: from ey-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.78.147]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEqzE-0005Og-DJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:07:18 +0000 Received: by ey-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 3so755022eyh.16 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:07:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gJEqal5TC+BA0y9KMlOYWiyYLqHrkSZZY7UjAP68SKo=; b=eWywuKMjHpqKxHUv4AikYC4hc/GxumP/ljcYg2CPbFqf0TlS4xGrD56HaDSkw//7oy nFMo18d4mPPmXMFMgHBP0TkcP0Rnrjy1sYEa4dUzEHrytjPv5+uGsD+zBqpagUKDL1UI JwRDFlcG3r9pJiAv51gnS3flWADHeO1BPwI60= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Slfc7cPk8KiiGYPx8nlv/H4+Ei6TjN10d8KrHHbgm84AGLfdSFU6i0N0YYEZ6llmWx CkiyJ41Ov/XuHwKpiJ8Fx/jF8JEuFONAczL3h2wUXWASG9JOtQTHkmGjbmAc2X30FGOA tNugRtQV/PKaR7OLTd1azbqMiaz13byGRCKZM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.24.20 with SMTP id t20mr4112335ebb.3.1259528835666; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:07:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <007801ca6c6a$09baf120$3ab27cbc@niurhaxf0xcqlj> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:07:15 +0100 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Anton_B=E4rtschi?= To: Marcin , rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: qso Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cdf6d04d591fa047988e86e X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d272.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0cdf6d04d591fa047988e86e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Marcin I've seen your signal in QRS10. It was quite strong. I called you, but probably my signal was too weak. May be we can make a QSO next weekend. 73 de Toni, HB9ASB 2009/11/24 Anton B=E4rtschi > Hello Marcin > Yes, would be nice to make a first contact SP-HB9. As far as i know, it > never took place. How abot this weekend, saturday or sunday? Have you ev= er > seen my signal? Should we try it in QRS3 or QRS10? > 73 de Toni, HB9ASB > > 2009/11/23 Marcin > >> Hello Toni >> Plise QSO on 136kHz. >> We have 1W EIRP and antenna 30m hight and 120m long. >> -- >> Vy 73! >> Marcin SQ2BXI >> (SP2KDS Team) >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Internetowi nie placa! Otworz Konto Direct. >> Kliknij >> http://link.interia.pl/f2448 >> >> > --000e0cdf6d04d591fa047988e86e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Marcin
I've seen your signal in QRS10. It was quite strong.= I called you, but probably my signal was too weak. May be we can make a= QSO next weekend.
73 de Toni, HB9ASB

2009/11/24 Anton B=E4rtschi <hb9asb@gmail.com>
Hello MarcinYes, would be nice to make a first contact SP-HB9. As far as i know, it= never took place. How abot this weekend, saturday or sunday? Have you eve= r seen my signal? Should we try it in QRS3 or QRS10?
73 de Toni, HB9ASB

2009/11/23 Marcin <bxi@interia.pl>
Hello Toni
Plise QSO on 136kHz.
We have 1W EIRP and antenna 30m hight and 120m long.
--
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI
(SP2KDS Team)

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--000e0cdf6d04d591fa047988e86e-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (rly-dc10.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.39]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC071-b474b05ac3d15; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:36:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC103-b474b05ac3d15; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:36:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBDii-0002qq-0Q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:35:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBDih-0002qh-B6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:35:11 +0000 Received: from smtp824.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.9]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBDig-00028Q-5Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:35:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 53423 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2009 20:35:04 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=m63gVMltomMhANsny4qQalQCp6BLNPMzQ1DyucqBTEMpsxcPWifSsL/Tyq7HbqMk+gUmJM8z4IgFlD9An+jIfgfPa2RvSTPpzmT4+RJL1CmlqDo5by+8cOC7twtxxRNn5q42aht7WaST/8+yyRdrC523gKrenr5AtkFJKq6tkQY= ; Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.180.119.35 with login) by smtp824.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Nov 2009 20:35:03 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: qKIhhNCswBB2TTHr2BORWcGGR2mpopxhCcunGIxpCKQYiG07Q7UOhNo- X-YMail-OSG: tLOrDJMVM1lfjIS1ZnZn0fdB_fyEtWaC6B.UcdWCe4yMMOymqgOaE3uQkOXf8t4n4FkrntlUlt0tNPqLsWDEJt63T3IGgJM82bLzLxTlisXmAVybLiBfZ9NqOtpIvxyOiW5PUY2L39t8fiilVcj0jfwLQ4DJW8pFZwQjYmnSR4bw3zMGhcAnyGAqE.FHvgY9qNtArhMimwSrvCEGp9AH4oI4fQi5PaZgP6OFIS7aMKlW8.06srFWj.OITIzmQHCt_RAiywIKMzalWtQ.nqGwBBdUnNtLmw63r.Fhcw-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "James Moritz" To: References: <017801ca66fb$0bf91c60$0517aac0@jimdesk> <20091118085815.7282031E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <02ac01ca6832$39e82890$0517aac0@jimdesk> <515CB1E53A2D4E02BBAB7B9E5E9CC0E8@JimPC> In-Reply-To: <515CB1E53A2D4E02BBAB7B9E5E9CC0E8@JimPC> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:35:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0053_01CA6957.C57A0560" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 ------=_NextPart_000_0053_01CA6957.C57A0560 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Jim, LF Group, FYI - Here is a spectrogram of G7NKS in WSPR recorded this evening, showing the sidebands at +/-50Hz and +/-150Hz - I couldn't see any other spectral components. 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Best regards, Andrej EW6GB in KO45CN From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db02.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDB022-ab84b11053b2b8; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 06:11:09 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB036-ab84b11053b2b8; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 06:10:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NELBm-0003cr-Q2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:10:06 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NELBm-0003ci-8y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:10:06 +0000 Received: from psmtp09.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.23]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NELBk-0006Z3-H4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:10:06 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp09.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KTT00C52GCK9C@psmtp09.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 12:09:56 +0100 (MET) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 12:09:18 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <19AE76B598A848FB81136D52F8EC7754@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: KDS 28-11.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_hJ4Onx/xvv2r8tbkJX9Dow)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --Boundary_(ID_hJ4Onx/xvv2r8tbkJX9Dow) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_AwCQkhy9/LMieSC/rmQlKQ)" --Boundary_(ID_AwCQkhy9/LMieSC/rmQlKQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hello LF, capture KDS henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: KDS 28-11.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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Hello LF,
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Good signals from both stations last night. 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Good signals from both stations last night.

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.
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Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,HTML_TITLE_EMPTY,MIME_HTML_ONLY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) M0FMT wrote:
Alan is right about Winrad if you set the software LO to zero and select LH or RH rather than the
full IQ and depending on you sound card sample rate you will either get 0 to 24kc/s or 0 to 48kc/s band coverage.

Yes, both Alan, and Pete are correct. And you will have also audio output, no need for VAC for it.
If you want to see (and hear) an example of reception of SAQ with just the mini-whip connected to
the line input of the Delta 44, using WInrad, go here :

http://www.sdradio.eu/SAQ_2008_06_29.html      or here (but using now Perseus) :
http://www.sdradio.eu/SAQ_2008_12_24.htm

73  Alberto  I2PHD

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (rly-ma05.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.49]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA012-8a74b09827b275; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:27:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA051-8a74b09827b275; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:27:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCH8J-0004ho-Ec for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:25:59 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCH8J-0004hf-0x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:25:59 +0000 Received: from ey-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.78.146]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCH8H-0005LR-O2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:25:59 +0000 Received: by ey-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 3so1489486eyh.16 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:25:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zQiLClFmiUtmLPcrQ+3wljfg0bEKreZXfuTXvtxN1oA=; b=SxELzpCLzHnwByEyT9EIht/Y+vtHZf9WwAXp8UTbub77MmZbWJYL8qPnw9BFuEpo60 Zc2XuWxDBfDdp+Zcax2B/qh/334daPM2Y/+M7F2WsxhgKbrHCE9F5BFv/65LEVRI1S2p SKw3osNARDCzFCmzQVmd4WXjuTn0cPiyhyfGA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Ydh6P/CC2AZ7mr9N8yleIK0pLTIh0EMNhUz8HkaGVm56Wx+o7lx8IUUK7CuJtVvm90 Dcgbhvsembdhz2SYWuKQ1GYjxNzGWgQ6zrre8hvLfb8UjeMaVzlCDtbDtSWwPRW9Vi0A VXIdbFOb/RdexV+UqV2VB2/s2p45VkDuiJwqc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.90.12 with SMTP id d12mr1213037wef.64.1258914356817; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:25:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <002301ca6b5d$7f214da0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> References: <002301ca6b5d$7f214da0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:25:56 +0000 Message-ID: <8bf118410911221025o2c42e9c3x35576a9d1a9056f5@mail.gmail.com> From: Dave Pick To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: G3YXM qrss10 (qso with SP2KDS) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d6487d0a6e470478f9d76d X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d255.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0016e6d6487d0a6e470478f9d76d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That looks very good! Maybe we could work one day? Dave. 2009/11/22 Andrey rn3agc > Hello Dave, LF, > Capture last night at 23.32z > > 73 Andrey -- G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK --0016e6d6487d0a6e470478f9d76d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That looks very good!
Maybe we could work one day?

Dave.

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2009/11/22 Andrey rn3agc <= rn3agc@mail.ru>
Hello Dave, LF,
Capture last night at 23.32z

73 Andrey

Hi Roger!<= /o:p>

 

Well done! You= are booming into Biggleswade!  You used to be in the -20db and below zone now its= -11 and better.  Uber QRO and you make me look very QRPp!!

 

My problem is= down to lack of vertical height (5.5M) and lousy earth (50 ohm at a guesstimate).   I= ’m going to ask Santa for 2 sets of swaged poles to give me 40’ height and= then run a lot more earths and radials out.  With that I calculate I can go= from about 0.1% eff up to 2% and get abt 500mW erp.

 

With best regar= ds

 

 

Jim=

 

 

Dr. James Cowbu= rn G7NKS

 

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org [mailto:owner-= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Roger Lapthorn
Sent: 06 November 2009= 16:46
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: G3XBM: 500= kHz ERP increased by 6dB - WSPR reports please

 

Today I modified my 500kHz antenna. The 28MHz= halo up at the top of the 5-6m vertical section (which was the coax feed to the 28MHz halo) was= removed and replaced by a spiral inductance/ top capacity hat consisting of ar= ound around 8 "spiralling in" turns in the space occupied by the= original halo.  Seeing my initial reports from M0BMU I am some 5-6dB st= ronger than I was before, I guess because more of the antenna current is in= the vertical section. The measured antenna current is not much different= though.

Please listen for me on 500kHz= WSPR and let me know if I am now stronger than before.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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--0016e6d6487d0a6e470478f9d76d-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb07.mx.aol.com (rly-mb07.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.165]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMB023-d174b0e8bfc1ac; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:09:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB073-d174b0e8bfc1ac; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:09:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDf0k-000592-Ic for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:07:54 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDf0k-00058s-4V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:07:54 +0000 Received: from out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.243]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDf0i-00067K-ED for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:07:54 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAMoaDktOlTCW/2dsb2JhbADUS4QxBIFy X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,294,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="257141694" Received: from unknown (HELO your91hoehfy9g) ([78.149.48.150]) by out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 26 Nov 2009 14:07:42 +0000 Message-ID: <000901ca6ea1$d28c4ac0$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <1259236455.6299.20.camel@vaio3rd> Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:07:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.236 Subject: LF: Re: New comer in QRSS120 at 137.7KHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Rik I will look for u. Pse let me know what time u are onair transmitting de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Wakatori" <7l1rll@dp.u-netsurf.ne.jp> To: Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 11:54 AM Subject: LF: New comer in QRSS120 at 137.7KHz > Hi All, > I have CQing by QRSS120 at 137.7KHz from a few day ago. > Please look at the frequency. > -- > -.. . --... .-.. .---- .-. .-.. .-.. .-.-. > 7L1RLL under ubuntu/Linux in Kawasaki,Japan(JP) > URL=http://www1.u-netsurf.ne.jp/~7l1rll/radio.html > -..--- -.- .-.. ..-.. --. --. ...- .-... ...-. > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB102-ae34b05420b246; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:03:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB091-ae34b05420b246; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:03:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NB6dB-00089i-B6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:01:01 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NB6dA-00089P-Ht for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:01:00 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NB6d6-0001DJ-8L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:00:58 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id E11E451C1AB for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:59:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from PC_van_Rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-106.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.106]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBA76F3863 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:59:34 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:59:38 +0100 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <00b301ca6915$df7b7440$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> References: <000501ca67ba$e4817db0$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <002e01ca682b$c42ac460$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <00b301ca6915$df7b7440$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091119125934.BBA76F3863@smtps02.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 QRSS10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jay, what ERP were you running ? 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T At 13:43 19/11/2009, you wrote: >T/A enthusiasts > >Thanks to Rik, Andrey, Pat, Ralph (and others for trying) from the >Tuesday night QRSS3 session. Very >surprised to see the signal received in Russia! > >Tonight WE2XGR/2 will transmit in QRSS10 mode from ~ 2130 to ~ 2300Z >and QRSS3 from ~2300 to ~ 0030Z >on 506.5 kHz. > >The QRSS10 transmission (letters XGR) will take about 4-1/2 minutes >which may be longer than the >T/A QSB cycle to western EU. It will be interesting to see if QRSS10 >might be too slow for T/A work. >As usual, any and all reports are appreciated. > >Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Andrey rn3agc" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 3:33 AM >Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 > > > > Hello Jay, Rik, LF, > > Captures at 00.32 and 01.42. > > Rik, here frequency 506501. > > > > 73 > > Andrey / KO85sv > > > > > >> T/A enthusiasts > >> > >> WE2XGR/2 will beacon in QRSS3 mode tonight on 506.5 kHz from ~ 2130 to ~ > >> 0030 Z. Reports appreciated. > >> > >> Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG083-a294afd6da129c; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:31:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG083-a294afd6da129c; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:30:59 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8x9w-0002e7-FD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:29:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8x9w-0002dy-4L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:29:56 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8x9v-0006t3-4i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:29:56 +0000 Received: from edmwaa01.telusplanet.net ([75.157.140.241]) by priv-edmwes24.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091113142952.ZZLZ16249.priv-edmwes24.telusplanet.net@edmwaa01.telusplanet.net> for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:29:52 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.67] (d75-157-140-241.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.140.241]) by edmwaa01.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 06613345A7B80E30 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:29:51 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4AFD6D5F.3020302@telus.net> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:29:51 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <2EB9AB3966984B91BB0C369B32CF12FC@AGB> <4AFCC936.9060800@telus.net> <4AFD125A.3060402@sighthound.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4AFD125A.3060402@sighthound.demon.co.uk> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi John VX is in developmental service (same idea as US stations), EI in amateur service... Like positive and negative antimatter they don't mix. 73 Scott John P-G wrote: > Scott Tilley wrote: >> Hi Graham >> >> All Canadian 600m stations are operating under COMMERCIAL >> Developmental Licenses and are not able to communicate with the >> Amateur Service. > > So VX9MRC shouldn't be having regular CW QSOs with EI0CF? > > Still confused.... > > John > GM4SLV > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb03.mx.aol.com (rly-mb03.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.161]) by air-mb08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB082-cf94af7db95313; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:06:44 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB035-cf94af7db95313; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:06:31 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7QBj-0003B9-Q8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:05:27 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7QBj-0003B0-Dn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:05:27 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7QAp-0006AF-Is for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:04:32 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8FA57B8085 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:04:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from PC_van_Rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-106.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.106]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C38331E703 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:04:54 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:05:07 +0100 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <007a01ca60eb$9cb96fe0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> References: <007a01ca60eb$9cb96fe0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091109090454.6C38331E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500 kHz TA report Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Jay, congrats on the QSO with Finbar. His QTH is almost perfect for 500kHz (close to the ocean, almost no obstacles) in contradiction to my QTH (inland, lot's of trees). But I am interested in a CW QSO with you, could you drop a message (to the reflector) when you are QRV ? I have rather limited time for the hobby, most evenings I cannot spend all time listening. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T At 04:20 9/11/2009, you wrote: >500 kHz TA enthusiasts > >Suprisingly good TA conditions of late. Had nice QSO (cw) with >Finbar, EI0CF, last night and again >tonight with good signals reports both directions. These QSOs are >about a month earlier than those >of the past two years. Not sure if it's conditions or that we just >didn't attempt it early enough >last year. > >Jack, VX9ZZZ in Nova Scotia has also been in QSO with Finbar and >reports hearing other EU stations >besides Finbar even well before his sunset. I've heard Jack calling >CQ evenings starting around NS >sunset on 504 kHz and he tunes the band looking for answers. > >Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 >506.5 kHz From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (rly-ma03.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.47]) by air-ma06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA064-8984b068de3329; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:39:23 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA032-8984b068de3329; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:39:01 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBSkX-0005vw-1a for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:38:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBSkW-0005vn-Lx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:38:04 +0000 Received: from psmtp30.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBSkV-0007Nk-PH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:38:04 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp30.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KTE00MUXR2X2P@psmtp30.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:37:45 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:37:42 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <110D052F97D84DB1BC25C90EE783FFB8@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: vx9mrc 20-11.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_sraOIgYzmre5cHVQ0RkrXA)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --Boundary_(ID_sraOIgYzmre5cHVQ0RkrXA) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_inZ092yZsFjJ8R60I5T0NQ)" --Boundary_(ID_inZ092yZsFjJ8R60I5T0NQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi Joe,LF Nice capture MRC Henny pa3cpm best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: vx9mrc 20-11.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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Hi Joe,LF
Nice capture MRC
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
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Berthebaud" To: References: <001801ca7139$d8e15100$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> <4B12EDC3.8030005@online.fr> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:38:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091129-1, 29/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: f8boj info's Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Goodnight jpierre and LF thank you for control ... it's not move too far to the side N america. and the grabber is closed east direction good night to pleasure Claude F8boj JN16WA ----- Original Message -----=20 From: ""Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)"" To: Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 10:55 PM Subject: Re: LF: f8boj info's Hi Claude , Monstrous signal ! I hope that our friends of the other side of pond , will copy you ! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj Claude Berthebaud a =E9crit : > Good evening LF > beaconing QRSS60 137776.20hz Claude F8boj JN16WA > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc07.mx.aol.com (rly-mc07.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.91]) by air-mc06.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMC064-d884b0e6cc010a; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:56:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC078-d884b0e6cc010a; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:55:48 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDcvT-0003tO-Ns for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:54:19 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDcvT-0003tF-D0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:54:19 +0000 Received: from msa-k1.u-netsurf.ne.jp ([202.233.11.14]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from <7l1rll@dp.u-netsurf.ne.jp>) id 1NDcvS-0000ZX-8U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:54:19 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.5] (d82.HkanagawaFL41.vectant.ne.jp [222.230.132.82]) by msa-k1.u-netsurf.ne.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 308042AA78 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 20:54:15 +0900 (JST) From: Rick Wakatori <7l1rll@dp.u-netsurf.ne.jp> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Organization: RLL Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 20:54:15 +0900 Message-Id: <1259236455.6299.20.camel@vaio3rd> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: New comer in QRSS120 at 137.7KHz Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi All, I have CQing by QRSS120 at 137.7KHz from a few day ago. Please look at the frequency. -- -.. . --... .-.. .---- .-. .-.. .-.. .-.-. 7L1RLL under ubuntu/Linux in Kawasaki,Japan(JP) URL=http://www1.u-netsurf.ne.jp/~7l1rll/radio.html -..--- -.- .-.. ..-.. --. --. ...- .-... ...-. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (rly-dc01.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.30]) by air-dc09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC093-afe4afb47b23c0; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:24:44 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC012-afe4afb47b23c0; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:24:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8MXR-0004hh-94 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:23:45 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8MXQ-0004hY-Sx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:23:44 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8MXO-0007eE-26 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:23:44 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.6] (opc1.twatt.home [192.168.1.6]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 947B23B4D8 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:23:40 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4AFB477C.5090604@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:23:40 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Jim. LF It looks like G7NKS has a 50/100Hz problem on the audio - both in TX and RX directions - there are up to 3 decodes by Jim of a single station (eg G3YXM), spaced by 50 & 100Hz and I see also that M0BMU is also reporting multiple decodes of G7NKS with the same 50/100Hz spacing. Jim, have you some mains hum affecting the audio in/out of the PC? Cheers, John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md02.mx.aol.com (rly-md02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.140]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMD084-8ee4b141997f2; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:14:44 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD026-8ee4b141997f2; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:14:33 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NFBgH-00085A-Pk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:13:05 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NFBgH-00084t-3j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:13:05 +0000 Received: from smtp23.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.20]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NFBgF-0004mP-5b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:13:05 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2307.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A0F917000091 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:12:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from F8BOJSQUSV2QH5 (231.154.87-79.rev.gaoland.net [79.87.154.231]) by msfrf2307.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 4CE16700009B for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:12:55 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091130191255314.4CE16700009B@msfrf2307.sfr.fr Message-ID: <001901ca71f0$fb60b830$0201a8c0@F8BOJSQUSV2QH5> From: "claude berthebaud" To: References: <001201ca71e6$f8fe42b0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:11:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091130-1, 30/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: F8BOJ Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Jay and LF Thank you for the information I'm going up a little higher in frequency In any case thank you for this transatlantic reception .... may be a QSO soon I'll be happy Claude F8boj JN16wa ================ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep" Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 7:00 PM Subject: LF: F8BOJ > BOJ very close to Loran line making reception difficult in North America. > > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG103-a1d4b07bc9be7; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:10:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG067-a1d4b07bc9be7; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:10:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBmuS-0003kB-1c for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:09:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBmuR-0003k2-Lt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:09:39 +0000 Received: from smtp23.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBmuR-0006Yl-3V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:09:39 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2313.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5BBD57000096 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:09:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (12.229.197-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.197.229.12]) by msfrf2313.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id EBB547000090 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:09:30 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091121100930965.EBB547000090@msfrf2313.sfr.fr Message-ID: <000f01ca6a92$b47052b0$0201a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:09:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091120-1, 20/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: f8boj G3xdv qso Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01CA6A9B.15D0C8C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01CA6A9B.15D0C8C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Mick and LF good morning ...solid copy=20 ur O no probleme many thanks for the First qso=20 Claude F8boj JN16WA ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01CA6A9B.15D0C8C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Mick and LF
good morning ...solid copy
ur O no probleme
many thanks for the First qso =
Claude F8boj JN16WA
------=_NextPart_000_000C_01CA6A9B.15D0C8C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB061-ae44afd05f4317; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:08:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB092-ae44afd05f4317; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:08:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8qFT-00011Y-KQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:07:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8qFT-00011P-9r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:07:11 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([199.185.220.240]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8qFS-0003jc-B5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:07:11 +0000 Received: from edtnaa02.telusplanet.net ([75.157.140.241]) by priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091113070804.CPNE703.priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net@edtnaa02.telusplanet.net> for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:08:04 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.67] (d75-157-140-241.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.140.241]) by edtnaa02.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 41D2A3C0278D05B2 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:07:07 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4AFD059B.6020107@telus.net> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:07:07 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: New DCF39 logger... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi All I have started a DCF39 plotter similar to the wonderous W3EEE system. If anyone is still interested in 2200m propagation have a look. http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/ Operation may be sporadic for the next few days as I debug a UPS. 73 Scott VE7TIL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMG091-9f14b13829f3e3; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 03:30:26 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG013-9f14b13829f3e3; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 03:30:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NF1bD-0005Ow-2n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:27:11 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NF1b8-0005On-EE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:27:07 +0000 Received: from mx2.inta.es ([130.206.92.83]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NF1b2-0008Ab-Bf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:27:03 +0000 Received: from Alfa.inta.es ([172.17.51.5]) by eSafe SMTP Relay 1259306682; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:26:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) From: Manuel Carbonell Alanis To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:26:53 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Lotus Domino Web Server Release 7.0.1FP1 April 17, 2006 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by HTTP Server on alfa/Inta(Release 7.0.1FP1|April 17, 2006) at30/11/2009 09:26:53,Serialize complete at 30/11/2009 09:26:53,Itemize by HTTP Server on alfa/Inta(Release 7.0.1FP1|April 17, 2006) at 30/11/200909:26:53,Serialize by Router on alfa/Inta(Release 7.0.1FP1|April 17, 2006) at 30/11/200909:26:54,Serialize complete at 30/11/2009 09:26:54 X-ESAFE-STATUS:[mx2.inta.es] Mail clean X-ESAFE-DETAILS:[mx2.inta.es] X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_MIME_NO_HTML_TAG=0.512,MIME_HTML_ONLY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: LF Propagation literature? 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P.368-9: Surface wave (10 KHz-30 MHz).
P.372-9: Radio noise.
P.684-4: Radio propagation (f<15= 0 KHz).
P.832-2: Ground conductivity.
P.1147-4: = ;Sky-wave field (150<f<1700 KHz).
 

Another inf= ormation (44 Mb): www.rta.nato.int/Pubs/RDP.asp?RDP=3DAGARD-CP-52= 9

73 de

        =             &n= bsp;        -Manuel Carbonell-

<= BR>-----owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org escribi= =F3: -----

Para: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
De: "Clemens Pau= l" <cpaul@gmx.net>
Enviado por: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o= rg
Fecha: 29/11/2009 19:36
Asunto: LF: Re: LF Propagation literatu= re?

Stefan,

below a copy= of my posting on this list from 3.11.09 maybe it's helpful.
---------= --
it's the CCIR- RECOMMENDATION 368-7 .
There are no free sources= on the internet for these graphs
at least I was not able to find any.=
Maybe DK8KW can help you, he has a graph for 150kHz on his HP
http://www.qru.de/bur= g.html
where you can also find his email address.
------------= ---------------------------------------------------

73
Clemens=
DL4RAJ

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stefan Sch=E4f= er" <schaefer@hst.tu-darmstadt.de>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 7:25 PM
Subject: LF:= LF Propagation literature?


Hello Lowfers,
Is there any go= od literature in the web (web-site or pdf or book) about the propagation= on LF?
Best would be, if it is created by a ham for the hams!
73, Stefan/DK7FC



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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (rly-dg05.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.89]) by air-dg08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG083-5ca4af2a426b; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:08:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG057-5ca4af2a426b; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:08:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N5zFl-0000pv-Qv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:07:41 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N5zFl-0000pm-C4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:07:41 +0000 Received: from smtp23.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.22]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N5zFj-0005Im-Bz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:07:41 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2301.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E85F1700009A for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:07:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (145.220.195-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.195.220.145]) by msfrf2301.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 6D8F47000099 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:07:31 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091105100731448.6D8F47000099@msfrf2301.sfr.fr Message-ID: <002d01ca5dff$c7ea38a0$0201a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: References: <36F0AC319F8D4DA2B15968DBEB9CDEBD@ns94d01ae4d850> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:07:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091104-1, 04/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: BOJ 04-11.jpg Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002A_01CA5E08.29483DB0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01CA5E08.29483DB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Henny and LF=20 Many thanks for the pic control ...now I'm in beacon=20 137705.hz qrss3 for the eventualy SWL good week and=20 Best 73 's=20 Claude F8boj JN16WA ----- Original Message -----=20 From: henny van elst=20 To: blacksheep=20 Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 10:51 AM Subject: LF: BOJ 04-11.jpg Hi LF, Capture BOJ, Henny pa3cpm best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden= verzonden: BOJ 04-11.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen vir= ussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet to= e. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt we= ten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01CA5E08.29483DB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Henny and LF
Many thanks for the pic control ...no= w I'm in=20 beacon
137705.hz qrss3 for the eventualy SWL=   =20 good week and
Best 73 's
Claude F8boj JN16WA
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 05,= 2009 10:51=20 AM
Subject: LF: BOJ 04-11.jpg

Hi LF,
Capture BOJ,
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
Het bericht ka= n nu met het=20 volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
BOJ=20 04-11.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beve= iliging=20 tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijla= gen niet=20 toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wil= t weten=20 hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.
------=_NextPart_000_002A_01CA5E08.29483DB0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db10.mx.aol.com (rly-db10.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.85]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB104-af14b059e5279; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:37:10 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB107-af14b059e5279; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:36:51 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBCnF-0002Si-W7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:35:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBCnF-0002SZ-JJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:35:49 +0000 Received: from mail-yw0-f193.google.com ([209.85.211.193]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBCnE-0001mr-Rm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:35:49 +0000 Received: by ywh31 with SMTP id 31so5296753ywh.30 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:35:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=6lsTO73dN48yESc/xu2F6C1x2teJMyRK0WRHESG21Nk=; b=ZOwDXDG5DrMR4WS1RW5WozIABLjf5z8akOFAK6I4Md86cGxWj3i+iMuvvPNSJyJwo4 O68I5OkawSuwj4OyyDVrY8YD4SNi7yD8XJGIgABd6P2qnIDtl1qdOXx4HgWsckb7u0LK bs6ZNUbN5ePHyv5Mvi9YUv5Oo2Ls1Sz9Dy0aw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=FqlGlqijPjmat7u7LO6eFZ5Rn9af8CHEyFteSPRA4yQx7i8cLr/CbEu9UGLWqa6zAH hr15nJeqQh4h64kujhMIx1CX6qkLzk+MuzqBHruhEUb933uim+XBncURXtG1J2lB0Nlo 6nIjmKH7bWVbRJcaW0p1XoIAVfd72xJD9sr2I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.37.40 with SMTP id k40mr789345ybk.254.1258659340754; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:35:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B0581FC.5060203@online.fr> References: <4B0581FC.5060203@online.fr> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:35:40 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70911191135ybb0370bm3eff2c3e8bddeef7@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d243.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Jean-Pierre, Thank you for the report and 'grabber'. On a 500 grabber - in the US most beaconing is 505-510 kHz but modes vary some QRSS 3, some cw and sometimes WSPR. I hope to have a new beacon on near 183kHz - perhaps you can copy it at 0000 UTC when Europe 1 signs off? --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2009/11/19 "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" : > Hi Lubos, Warren, > Yes very good signals of Warren last night ! > It's a pity that the 137 Khz is forsaken more > and more with the profit from the 500 Khz ! > I think this winter of adding to my grabber > ( in the place of the European window ) the > band of the American beacons on 500 Khz . > Warren , think that it will be useful to monitor > the beacons of the American continent ? > 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj > > Lubos OK2BVG a =E9crit : >> >> Hello Warren, Jean-Pierre, LF! >> The XGJ signal was very nice last night (but I had opened a window and= my >> RX drifted abt 0.1Hz, =A0HI!) >> >> 73! >> >> Lubos, OK2BVG >> >> =A0_________________________________________________________________ >> Nov=E1 Windows 7: Kter=FD po=E8=EDta=E8 je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD? Dal= =B9=ED informace. >> http://windows.microsoft.com/shop >> >> -----------------------------------------------------------------------= - >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb11.mx.aol.com (rly-mb11.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.169]) by air-mb07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB074-d394af49c052d1; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:58:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB115-d394af49c052d1; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:58:31 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6Wnx-0006nn-OM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:57:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6Wnx-0006ne-C2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:57:13 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6Wmq-0000hd-2D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:56:05 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so1706958bwz.4 for ; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:57:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=YUOGBwO7E32B4Q2OwqE1V6XUUZY4k0KlDthCqlyqwzk=; b=a7QUx1JCaiOOQcm92ORHCJ7xkdAO34iO30gsSXyxd8uiHIaL+NzBwUEF3T4BrqLYyt 8AgjgP44uvr2mZPc03WP4SKsLdYAMYy6FGXLMRDbQH6Bc20QxznhdsS/icktzP6V+MMH lF2+G30bJ6N/D4TsLG68p/NmSK5t4Eg8K0cuo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=sdARSYYbU8QQPTN31CDJGZ8B3gO+AZeNdNJSYqLg5CLT3cb9odT63mGC31dUYQ8UYK U93OP0AKTE+MIK50ZPhPHfSanbMt2bct/xVmYGWE5e0i1pR357cVZQOV/HFqqtt+SD0M qFsv2rwBWLzegX4T3IHV5bcx0JnQow8M2FX10= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.155.90 with SMTP id r26mr1372944bkw.81.1257544625992; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:57:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:57:05 +0100 Message-ID: <9afca2640911061357g15160968m9f249ed8aaeb6184@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: SM6BHZ on 500kHz WSPR tonight? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175cfa6cb8b48a0477baec3a X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d226.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0015175cfa6cb8b48a0477baec3a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Anyone know if Gus is planning to be on 500kHz WSPR tonight? I'm hoping that he will (at last) decode me if he does appear. BTW, two new reporters this evening PA0AM and G4CAO - thanks to both. 73s Roger G3XBM -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --0015175cfa6cb8b48a0477baec3a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyone know if Gus is planning to be on 500kHz WSPR tonight? I'm hopin= g that he will (at last) decode me if he does appear.

BTW, two new= reporters this evening PA0AM and G4CAO - thanks to both.

73s
Ro= ger G3XBM
--
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http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XB= M =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088
--0015175cfa6cb8b48a0477baec3a-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME014-9cd4af6a2923b6; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:51:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME081-9cd4af6a2923b6; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:51:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N75LP-00056g-Ag for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:50:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N75LO-00056X-Vc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:50:02 +0000 Received: from out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.243]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N75KQ-0007uN-7E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:49:02 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArsEAGMx9kpOlLtr/2dsb2JhbACCUIFpiUMGyn+EPgQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,703,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="210527370" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.187.107]) by out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 08 Nov 2009 10:49:50 +0000 Message-ID: <019f01ca6061$34a80040$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:49:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_019C_01CA6061.34652AE0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_019C_01CA6061.34652AE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable WSPR is like a LAZY MAN using a WALKING STICK !!!!!! G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_019C_01CA6061.34652AE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
WSPR is like a LAZY MAN using a= WALKING STICK=20 !!!!!!
G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_019C_01CA6061.34652AE0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db05.mx.aol.com (rly-db05.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.80]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDB042-ac44b0feaef5f; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 10:06:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB052-ac44b0feaef5f; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 10:06:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NE2Nu-0005RW-NX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:05:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NE2Nu-0005RN-7u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:05:22 +0000 Received: from psmtp30.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.32]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NE2Ns-0008DM-0w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:05:22 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp30.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KTR0063WWKO2Z@psmtp30.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 16:05:12 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 16:04:38 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <23D0766293BC4843948B0A9AC68E0314@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: t): RA3YO 26-11.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_vDutA2q+AWs0WmpEVTuvSg)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --Boundary_(ID_vDutA2q+AWs0WmpEVTuvSg) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_CCnJCcEo7H+M4fJtzC3GSA)" --Boundary_(ID_CCnJCcEo7H+M4fJtzC3GSA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi LF, Capture ra3yo henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: RA3YO 26-11.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. --Boundary_(ID_CCnJCcEo7H+M4fJtzC3GSA) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Hi LF,
Capture ra3yo
henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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<4B07454D.5050101@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:41:33 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <124359.67090.qm@web63602.mail.re1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <124359.67090.qm@web63602.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR BEACONS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Andy - KU4XR wrote: > > By Jove !! is it possible that he finally " GOT IT " ??? > heavens to wonders !! I doubt it..... no airborne porcine creatures spotted... Hell reportedly still void of snowballs.... From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF051-5804aef648d393; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:00:43 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF103-5804aef648d393; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:00:31 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N55rb-000281-3I for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:59:03 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N55ra-00027s-7C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:59:02 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N55rX-0002VA-Qf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:59:02 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 02 Nov 2009 22:58:53 -0000 Received: from p5DD344E9.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO Clemens04) [93.211.68.233] by mail.gmx.net (mp045) with SMTP; 02 Nov 2009 23:58:53 +0100 X-Authenticated: #17214767 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/QJRMEsAfQ2djHzzZr38TfCIHAeZ74tU13KvioZ3 HmthSu2G9qptSa Message-ID: <002b01ca5c10$0ccec4f0$0201a8c0@Clemens04> From: "Clemens Paul" To: References: <9afca2640910310528p4f07557aifdc0557a68bfeff8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 23:58:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.52,0.52 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz attenuation graphs? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0027_01CA5C18.6C3A96F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01CA5C18.6C3A96F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger, it's the CCIR- RECOMMENDATION 368-7 . There are no free sources on the internet for these graphs at least I was not able to find any. Maybe DK8KW can help you, he has a graph for 150kHz on his HP http://www.qru.de/burg.html where you can also find his email address. 73 Clemens DL4RAJ ----- Original Message ----- From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 1:28 PM Subject: LF: 500kHz attenuation graphs? Can someone please point me to any CCIR or similar graphs (preferably on the internet) showing the attenuation with distance expected on groundwave and skywave at 500kHz? 73s Roger G3XBM -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.40/2471 - Release Date: 10/31/09 07:53:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01CA5C18.6C3A96F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Roger,
 
it's the CCIR-=20 RECOMMENDATION 368-7 .
There are no free sources on the internet for these graphs
at least I was not able to find any.
Maybe DK8KW can help you, he has a graph for 150kHz on his= HP
where you can also find his email=20 address.
 
73
Clemens
DL4RAJ
 
 
 
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Can someone please point me to any CCIR or similar gr= aphs=20 (preferably on the internet) showing the attenuation with distance= expected on=20 groundwave and skywave at 500kHz?

73s
Roger G3XBM

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------=_NextPart_000_0027_01CA5C18.6C3A96F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (rly-dg05.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.89]) by air-dg03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG034-5c44afd68c9127; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:10:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG051-5c44afd68c9127; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:10:19 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8wpZ-0002Vt-AD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:08:53 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8wpY-0002Vk-Q5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:08:52 +0000 Received: from mailout1.go2.pl ([193.17.41.11]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8wpY-0006g5-4m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:08:52 +0000 Received: from mailout1.go2.pl (unknown [10.0.0.103]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 343885D518C for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:08:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from unknown (unknown [10.0.0.142]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:08:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from 58-178-124-188.rev.pro-internet.pl [188.124.178.58] by poczta.o2.pl with ESMTP id XQbIdd; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:08:32 +0100 Message-ID: <004001ca646a$c6ec0cf0$3ab27cbc@niurhaxf0xcqlj> From: "Marcin" To: Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:08:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-O2-Trust: 2, 63 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: sp2kds Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear LF Station SP2KDS will be today started from 21:00 on 137.700 (qrss3) and later 137.778 kHz (qrss60). In time 20:00-21:00 search stations on 500kHz band. -- Vy 73! Marcin SQ2BXI (SP2KDS Team) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD103-b8e4b02707fba; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:44:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD078-b8e4b02707fba; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:44:33 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAKap-0001Gs-GG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:43:23 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAKap-0001Gj-2t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:43:23 +0000 Received: from mail-pw0-f45.google.com ([209.85.160.45]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAKao-0006G0-91 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:43:23 +0000 Received: by pwi15 with SMTP id 15so3940435pwi.4 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:43:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=WjNL2IfRGemwVYWwUDv//win9AVJPEGVT9iGbQnPxHg=; b=Dnw/aLa+HVx0kbNsP4JnQf01HTmtvQm463U1gveigd4QGDW/rt/9k6giDDp6fNLO27 dNmVEat9EFWr/2ATWCVaxD0waU1HSOhVrw35eexV8L7UYf5xJio6epizE/lnCSgDJ0WG pcQWNoPjAIPWOY5sHj8gsehhAcZgAbjJ8y6RY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=S5VIBLqB3zd9cN/S5Qv9DYX+QYiRap4lA2Gg9jqULAA/ttr7KANdQViEsKE5cE+Q4M qxECII91watWWILszFyJbp5g/zib5rML1qwVypL8raLr/eb3tbpngv4tifm2WGuJgUoy yd/z+4hmGpWFQmbigFku3qICMEjWG9uTyNGdg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.125.3 with SMTP id x3mr534835rvc.142.1258450995004; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:43:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <001c01ca670a$f7e34100$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> References: <1f0624b90911160805u4435bd18ue805924594d8b997@mail.gmail.com> <001c01ca670a$f7e34100$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:43:14 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: f6b95764c5d2b469 Message-ID: <1f0624b90911170143t7eee6620h8e84101b2d47715d@mail.gmail.com> From: Gary - G4WGT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd2178e86440004788df4c0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d237.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0cd2178e86440004788df4c0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Andrey, Yes you are correct, I noticed my mistake when looking for something else on the grabber saves, I saw the SSB traces. Ooops! it was SM6BHZ. 73, Gary - G4WGT. 2009/11/16 Andrey rn3agc > Hello Gary, LF, > WE2XGR/6?? I now hear SM6BHZ on the same frequency, RST569. > cw / a long dash / voice > > 73 Andrey > > > Hi All, >> >> Good signals from both stations last night. >> >> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo. >> >> > --000e0cd2178e86440004788df4c0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Andrey,

Yes you are correct, I noticed my mistake wh= en looking for something else on the grabber saves, I saw the SSB traces.= Ooops! it was SM6BHZ.

73,

Gary - G4WGT.



= 2009/11/16 Andrey rn3agc <rn3agc@mail.ru>
Hello Gary, LF,
WE2XGR/6?? I now hear SM6BHZ on the same frequency, RST569.
cw / a long dash / voice

73 Andrey


Hi All,

Good signals from both stations last night.

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.



--000e0cd2178e86440004788df4c0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA032-a514b09d55af6; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:20:49 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA021-a514b09d55af6; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:20:44 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCMeE-0006qS-KI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:19:18 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCMeE-0006qJ-4S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:19:18 +0000 Received: from mailt.toya.net.pl ([217.113.224.9] ident=postfix) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCMeC-0006hM-H9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:19:18 +0000 Received: from mail.toya.net.pl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.toya.net.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6937C20000055 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:19:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.103] (unknown [10.11.152.246]) (Authenticated sender: unimlyn) by mail.toya.net.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 57D6A20000051 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:19:15 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B09D502.8030200@toya.net.pl> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:19:14 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGlvdHIgTcWCeW5hcnNraQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: N-turn TX Loop Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear LF group, I would like to put for your consideration the issue of multi-turn transmitting loops. Have you ever done such an experiment on LF ? This sunday evening i decided to do some simple math and it turns out that such a N-turn TX loop should work ( at least on the paper) The radiation resistance is proportional to the square of so called "effective height" and this last term can be easily derived for a loop i.e. it is equal to 2*pi*A*N/lambda where A denotes area closed by a loop a N is the number of turns so the radiation resistance for a single turn loop reads as 320*pi^4*A^2/lambda^4 For the N-turns the radiation resistance obtained for a single turn is multiplied by N^2. Ok, the R (ac) is increased as we increase N but this is linear with respect to N and therefore we should have gain in the radiated power. (there is an implicit assumption made: the loop is "small" i.e. the current is constant) i did some calculations: assumed TX power ( and later, perfect match to the loop) 200 Watt environmental loss: 1.5 Ohm, diameter of the wire d = 3 mm, rectangular shape of the loop i.e 10 meters by 20 meters ( less optimal than square or circle ) so A = 200 sq.m For N =1 (classical tx loop) we get R(AC) = 0.62 Ohm ( Rac formula taken from ARRL Antenna Handbook, f = 137.7kHz) radiation resistance RRAD = 55.5 microOhm, total R loss = 2.12 Ohm, efficiency is 0.0026% and radiated pwr 5.2 miliWatts, I = 9.7 Amp. Next, I took N =3 so the wire length is changed from 60 meters to 180, everything else was kept the same and now one gets: R(ac)= 1.85 Ohm so R loss = 3.35 Ohm RRAD = 499.5 microOhm, efficiency increased to 0.015% and radiated pwr abt 30 miliWatt, I=7.7 Amp I am sorry bothering you but i simply would like to learn where is the 'catch' here - if there is one ... I guess the assumed loop i.e. 10 by 20 mters is 'reasonable' as TX antenna i took these values after reading the article about WD2XES first TX loop: 40 feet by 65 feet - well , almost the same dimensions.. :) From practical reasons the N values will likely be small , say, 2 or 3 but as the above numbers show maybe it is worth doing it. 73 de Piotr, sq7mpj qth: Lodz /jo91rs/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db06.mx.aol.com (rly-db06.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.81]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB032-acc4b06f51e16; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:59:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB062-acc4b06f51e16; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:59:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBZcu-0001Dg-BC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:58:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBZct-0001DX-Vp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:58:39 +0000 Received: from out1.ip09ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.245]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBZct-0002Q6-Db for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:58:39 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArsEAB6DBktZ8Ex6/2dsb2JhbACCUYs1Bo5QuDmEPAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,260,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="235828257" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([89.240.76.122]) by out1.ip09ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 20 Nov 2009 19:58:33 +0000 Message-ID: <008801ca6a1b$d6a66210$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:58:32 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: WSPR BEACONS Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0085_01CA6A1B.D6424910" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0085_01CA6A1B.D6424910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable These unattended Beacons are often a source of QRM for the CW QSO oper= ator, whereas a cw QSO operator in real time can qsy to take evasive= action and avoid qrm to others on adjacent frequencies. G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0085_01CA6A1B.D6424910 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
These unattended Beacons are often a= source of QRM=20 for the CW QSO operator, whereas a cw QSO operator in real time= can qsy to=20 take evasive action and avoid qrm to others on adjacent=20 frequencies.
G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_0085_01CA6A1B.D6424910-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (rly-dc09.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.38]) by air-dc06.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDC063-b3f4b1290ed32e; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:19:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC093-b3f4b1290ed32e; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:19:10 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NElXU-0001S5-9O for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:18:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NElXT-0001Rw-Qz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:18:15 +0000 Received: from mbox2.netikka.net ([213.250.81.203]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NElXT-0002dK-1c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:18:15 +0000 Received: from tupu.netikka.net (tupu [172.16.83.90]) by mbox2-feedback.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B2440814F for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:18:09 +0200 (EET) Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by tupu.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EE034B0058 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:18:09 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CA2F495B8F for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:18:09 +0200 (EET) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:18:09 +0200 Message-ID: <1259507889.4b1290b138ae4@imp.netikka.net> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:18:09 +0200 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: OE5ODL on 137.7kHz Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="-MOQ12595078896a00a7a43bab862f42b340d31215271d" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 ---MOQ12595078896a00a7a43bab862f42b340d31215271d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LF OE5ODL is a nice audible signal on 137.7kHz. 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X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: RE: 137 DX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01CA69C6.07AD27F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN, HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01CA69C6.07AD27F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Mal 137 is my next project though I am not really Dx from you. If I get a Tx set up I'll let you know for a CW QSO or two With best regards Jim Subject: LF: 137 DX LF GRP Is there enought acty on this band to justify the effort of getting started. Years ago there was over 30 countries active on cw on the band. I have 1w erp available and would like to work some dx de mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01CA69C6.07AD27F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01CA69C6.07AD27F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG103-9f74b016ddb350; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:21:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG021-9f74b016ddb350; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:21:01 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA3Mw-00068q-0K for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:19:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA3Mv-00068h-Kj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:19:53 +0000 Received: from mailout01.t-online.de ([194.25.134.80]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA3Mu-0000yk-V6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:19:53 +0000 Received: from fwd03.aul.t-online.de by mailout01.t-online.de with smtp id 1NA3Mr-0001Y1-05; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:19:49 +0100 Received: from e7010 (rI6ZfMZVZhkcCr65dZ9edbs7TnTnO-2QywxCjGF8gMTOVeEAlkZFt0nIdUFmuu7g8V@[84.147.233.80]) by fwd03.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1NA3Mf-1Trz4C0; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:19:37 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01ca66d0$368a6270$6402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:19:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: rI6ZfMZVZhkcCr65dZ9edbs7TnTnO-2QywxCjGF8gMTOVeEAlkZFt0nIdUFmuu7g8V X-TOI-MSGID: 8c62d136-d3c3-4ef9-b383-48826f29f2c6 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: DI2AG WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA66D8.96336480" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA66D8.96336480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear MF, DI2AG-beacon is now QRV in WSPR, duty cycle 33%. QRG 505.090K= Hz, PWR 0.4W ERP. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA66D8.96336480 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear MF,
      &= nbsp; =20 DI2AG-beacon is now QRV in WSPR, duty cycle 33%. QRG 505.090KHz, PWR= 0.4W=20 ERP.
73    Walter  DI2= AG /=20 DJ2LF
 
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA66D8.96336480-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (rly-dg05.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.89]) by air-dg05.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDG053-5cb4b124d0b2b; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 05:29:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG058-5cb4b124d0b2b; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 05:29:33 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEh16-0000Dj-SX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:28:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEh16-0000DZ-5u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:28:32 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEh14-0001bF-He for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:28:32 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED07D4C817F for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:28:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED6ED4C8181 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:28:24 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B124CC8.6060106@online.fr> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:28:24 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002201ca70da$b4515150$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> In-Reply-To: <002201ca70da$b4515150$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: LF T/A [137kHz] Grabber failed ! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF , This night , the grabber =93planted=94, cause is due to storm ! The K9AY broken ! at hour that it is repaired , ready for the next night ! 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME061-9ce4b06cde138a; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:12:09 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME082-9ce4b06cde138a; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:12:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBX00-0007nB-Rc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:10:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBX00-0007n2-G3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:10:20 +0000 Received: from mx38.mail.ru ([94.100.176.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBWzz-0001DS-E0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:10:20 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=58846 helo=EFREMOV) by mx38.mail.ru with asmtp id 1NBWzr-000LA7-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:10:11 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <002401ca6a04$4da31fb0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: References: <000501ca67ba$e4817db0$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <002e01ca682b$c42ac460$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <00b301ca6915$df7b7440$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:09:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 QRSS10 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Jay, LF, > T/A enthusiasts > > Thanks to Rik, Andrey, Pat, Ralph (and others for trying) from the Tuesday night QRSS3 session. Very > surprised to see the signal received in Russia! I also am very surprised by this reception! Unfortunately, last night only a trace at 00.25z. 73 Andrey From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD042-9294af59de43d5; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:19:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD101-9294af59de43d5; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:18:45 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6nz6-00010d-29 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:17:52 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6nz5-00010U-Hd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:17:51 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6nz0-0002CR-B4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:17:51 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so2169892bwz.4 for ; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 08:17:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=L5Wpy+rpZBDl8I7eHk51k5PcPUIAMOjoKNkU6j1C2yY=; b=V3DOqRvuTf514rP6AQ+wbDTV+IQqMachMHZkipnJ9S33CHc7WQFwFCQ1jOGyReNxF9 gAf7if4aHIlupQY7owkbSOjVcCqFRi/35oGJMUpHEXNI92AmRrZ7D9jgbSWynHAsv+dO vZqTT1MWT14sdqfuzvf+YM+tkYyHw6pKFvPLU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=B6DzCBI7qsSuoFalTU9e3/0C9yidxcXVdBwnAVC/ipSuhNEY0sJyaRpcKK04guCVSN F5tEcgPcvJ9LZ27ALRM6/bLd6LFVkE7Z0E8oyRY9ihjMf3i2jbGSPwVzlwe1uq9U9yRd Tuxl4i7jdjixF/h16adxE/oTFt5tTU5MhBQEw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.150.76 with SMTP id x12mr6233885bkv.30.1257610658295; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 08:17:38 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <2F1AB4DFB90B402ABA068A546B4AEDDE@radiorummet> References: <2F1AB4DFB90B402ABA068A546B4AEDDE@radiorummet> Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 16:17:38 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911070817h546534e4q7a3a8be61d767981@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 10 mW WSPR beacon. Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175dd9c68daf4c0477ca4cdc X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_FONT_BIG, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d261.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0015175dd9c68daf4c0477ca4cdc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gus, Getting a report from AA1A is amazing - really well done Gus. WSPR is remarkable with very low power signals. As you may know, I have been using <1mW ERP for several weeks and have bee= n heard by 27 stations in 5 countries with best DX 896kms. I now believe my ERP is approaching 2mW. I am hopeful that you will hear my tiny WSPR sign= al one night soon - maybe tonight overnight Gus? 73s Roger G3XBM 2009/11/7 Gus > Dear LF group, > > After running beacon WSPR night 6-7 November with only 10 mW ERP (125 mW= ) > TX power on 500 kHz it gives me great surprise, that a very long range= can > be achieved with extremely small power! > > Dave AA1A got a decoding where the distance between us is 5756 km. > > Also a number of EU stn=92s reported decodes. > > > On previous occasions, with a power of 1 W ERP is Laurence KL1X/BY3A > reported a number of decoding where the distance between us is 7284 km. > > I would also like to thank the other reporting from the night's 10 mW > broadcasts, and note that WSPR is a fashion which is particularly suitab= le > for very low power! > > 73 de Gus SM6BHZ > > www.sm6bhz.com > --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --0015175dd9c68daf4c0477ca4cdc Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gus,

Getting a report from AA1A is amazing - really well done Gus.= =A0 WSPR is remarkable with very low power signals.

As you may kno= w, I have been using <1mW ERP for several weeks and have been heard by= 27 stations in 5 countries with best DX 896kms. I now believe my ERP is= approaching 2mW.=A0 I am hopeful that you will hear my tiny WSPR signal= one night soon - maybe tonight overnight Gus?

73s
Roger G3XBM



2009/11/7= Gus <begu@algonet= .se>

Dear LF group,

After running beacon WSPR= night 6-7 November with only 10 mW ERP (125=20 mW) TX power on 500 kHz it gives me great surprise, that a very long range= can=20 be achieved with extremely small power!

Dave AA1A got a decoding= where the distance between us is 5756=20 km.

Also a number of EU stn=92= s reported=20 decodes.


On previous occ= asions, with=20 a power of 1 W ERP is Laurence KL1X/BY3A reported a number of decoding whe= re the=20 distance between us is 7284 km.

I would also like to thank the= other reporting from the night's 10 mW=20 broadcasts, and note that WSPR is a fashion which is particularly suitable= for=20 very low power!

73=20 de Gus SM6BHZ

www.sm6bhz.com




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http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088
--0015175dd9c68daf4c0477ca4cdc-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (rly-ma06.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.50]) by air-ma09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA092-8b04b004a9b1c7; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:38:33 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA062-8b04b004a9b1c7; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:38:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9jyX-0008G9-FI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:37:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9jyW-0008G0-Rl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:37:24 +0000 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net ([165.212.64.31]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9jyV-0002Hq-UT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:37:24 +0000 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net (cmsout01-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout01.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F742AC3F8 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:37:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps04.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.133] by cmsout01.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.58V) with ESMTP id XID392Nkoslq4688X01; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:37:16 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.133 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps04.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID392Nkoslq4688X01 Received: from [192.168.1.3] [151.47.212.35] by cmsapps04.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.53P) with ESMTPA id 413Nkoslo5472M40; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:37:15 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.212.35 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.1.3] Message-ID: <4B004A56.5050907@usa.net> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:37:10 +0100 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Z-USANET-MsgId: XID413NkoslP5472X40 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_HTML_ONLY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Weak Signals - was 500kHz CW - calling CQ Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY,MIME_HTML_ONLY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Andy Talbot wrote:
This presentation was aimed at Microwave operators, but has plenty of relevance to LF
 
http://g4jnt.com/MartleSham.htm
Includes soundclips of CW buried in noise with accurately defined S/N ratios

Andy
Very nice presentation Andy,

  there were any grumpy and disgruntled OMs in the audience objecting to your dismissal
of CW  as an effective weak-signal mode ?     :-)

73  Alberto  I2PHD

P.S. All the audio link in your presentation are broken as they all refer to WAV files on you C:
disk, which of course is not accessible when playing the presentation.




From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de04.mx.aol.com (rly-de04.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.140]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE051-4d04b02b432320; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:34:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE047-4d04b02b432320; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:33:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAP6g-0002yf-RU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:32:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAP6f-0002yW-R8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:32:33 +0000 Received: from idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca ([64.59.134.9]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAP6e-0008Vi-OU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:32:33 +0000 Received: from pd7ml2no-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.153.162]) by pd7mo1no-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 17 Nov 2009 07:32:23 -0700 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.0 c=1 a=bMPSwsB01Q4O/CPJ8uTuaw==:17 a=aatUQebYAAAA:8 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=yuwhsfIJp9vWr2LHqBIA:9 a=2g13vGON-ozafqIcZ5wA:7 a=N591OBmNWtXDUGi97Nr4cvi10x4A:4 a=rBKJJ2Jc0C4A:10 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 Received: from unknown (HELO Jordan1) ([68.147.20.14]) by pd7ml2no-dmz.prod.shaw.ca with SMTP; 17 Nov 2009 07:32:22 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Jordan" To: References: <1f0624b90911160805u4435bd18ue805924594d8b997@mail.gmail.com> <20091117081718.BDD6EF3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> <4B02B081.4080003@telus.net> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:32:22 -0700 Organization: VE6ZT MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.6 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: LF: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Definitely a breach of regulations and procedures....VE-"X" stations are not permitted 2-way contact with the Amateur service, nor any other service. Operation is strictly limited to Beacon operation only. 73...Jordan VE6ZT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 7:17 AM Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6 > The first illegal ON-VX QSO. > > > > Rik Strobbe wrote: >> Gary, All, >> >> yesterday I could copy VX9MRC in QRSS3 with a surprising strong signal as >> early as 18 UTC, when I launched Argo. >> Throughout the evening the signal was strong and with little QSB from >> 19-22UTC, after that the signal became weaker with much more QSB. >> Probably because I had a sked with Joe at 22:40 UTC ;-) . >> But despite all we managed to complete the QSO with both way M report >> (would have been a solid O earlier the evening). >> A first ON-VE QSO on 500kHz and with +/- 4075km a new DX record for me >> Joe transmitted on 507.770 and I on 501.190. >> Between 19 and 22 UTC the signal was audible most of the time and would >> have been CW copy if it were not squeezed between the NDB "Z" carrier at >> 507.980 (S9+ here) the SM6BHZ CW/SSB test transmissions (up to S9) and a >> local birdie on 507.600. >> >> For the QSO I was running 300W into my 11m high / 25m long lazy-L >> antenna, estimated ERP about 1.5 Watt (at best, if the greenery does not >> absorb too much) >> >> The night from Sunday - Monday I left Argo running, VX9MRC produced a >> good signal all through the night and faded out at 07UTC. This would mean >> that there is a potential transatlantic path on 500kHz for 13h a day !!! >> >> 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >> >> At 17:05 16/11/2009, you wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> >>> Good signals from both stations last night. >>> >>> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo. >> >> >> > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc03.mx.aol.com (rly-mc03.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.87]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC024-d614afdd02d374; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:31:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC031-d614afdd02d374; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:31:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N93iq-0005LK-HX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:30:24 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N93iq-0005LB-3D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:30:24 +0000 Received: from out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.243]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N93io-0008AR-Dm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:30:24 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApAFAB9f/UpOlMdA/2dsb2JhbACCIy2BaolYBo56uSiEPAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,739,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="222935065" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.199.64]) by out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 13 Nov 2009 21:29:56 +0000 Message-ID: <016b01ca64a8$75cdb7e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:30:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: 500 ACTY Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0168_01CA64A8.74E1AA30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0168_01CA64A8.74E1AA30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MF CW MEN A good nite so far for 500 and xband acty. Worked OZ8NJ and GM3BST on 500 and SQ5BPF, F6CNI, DL4RAJ and DF2PY xband 7033/3573. Some others got away= because of HF band condx. 73 and tnx to all for the CW acty de Mal/G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0168_01CA64A8.74E1AA30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
MF CW MEN
A good nite so far for 500 and xband= =20 acty.
Worked OZ8NJ and GM3BST on 500 and
SQ5BPF, F6CNI, DL4RAJ and DF2PY xband= 7033/3573.=20 Some others got away because of HF band condx.
73 and tnx to all for the CW acty
de Mal/G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_0168_01CA64A8.74E1AA30-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (rly-ma05.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.49]) by air-ma06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA064-8a74b007fc433e; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:25:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA051-8a74b007fc433e; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:25:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9nW4-0002iu-3p for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:24:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9nW3-0002ie-Ob for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:24:15 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9nW3-0003cp-2n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:24:15 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.6] (opc1.twatt.home [192.168.1.6]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C8F63B512 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:24:14 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4B007F8D.2090707@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:24:13 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1043CB7D895D4161B1C87CDD140332A2@AGB> <0CADF4DD71FD43A2A8384463754F6344@AGB> <4B005411.4010506@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <1C14999758D149228277CBBC2446F1D7@AGB> <4B006812.7010101@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <1A8E7857A7294C39AA873BDC76A001D8@AGB> In-Reply-To: <1A8E7857A7294C39AA873BDC76A001D8@AGB> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Running mW wspr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Graham wrote: > Not a beep ... > Set power to 200 mW as of 22-05 Condx seem to have taken a bit of a dive over the last hour or so. Thanks for trying. John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc03.mx.aol.com (rly-mc03.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.87]) by air-mc04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC042-d634b03eb983ab; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 07:42:06 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC033-d634b03eb983ab; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 07:42:01 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAjpy-00027w-1E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:40:42 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAjpx-00027n-44 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:40:41 +0000 Received: from smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com ([195.200.78.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAjpv-0000qN-HJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:40:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 19468 invoked by uid 507); 18 Nov 2009 13:40:23 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO JR) (john.rabson@numeo.fr@217.67.155.178) by smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com with SMTP; 18 Nov 2009 13:40:23 +0100 Message-ID: <200911181340310286.0AD12771@smtp2.numeo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:40:31 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: F8BOJ 40dB over QRM on 137 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 At 1240z. F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df09.mx.aol.com (rly-df09.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.22]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF052-5784b04881a247; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:49:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF095-5784b04881a247; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:49:48 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAuGT-0005nl-JN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:48:45 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAuGT-0005nc-3n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:48:45 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAuGQ-00066A-Vp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:48:45 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.4] (rx1.twatt.home [192.168.1.4]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45DC93B49B for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:48:42 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4B0487DA.5090509@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:48:42 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <005001ca688a$9e8c97b0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: VX9MRC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Laurence BY3A-KL1X China wrote: > Mal - > nothing from you on 508... I'd hope not! The UK allocation is 501-504kHz....? John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA093-8c14af6b3611ef; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:02:48 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA083-8c14af6b3611ef; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:02:43 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N76Sx-0005qT-4T for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:01:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N76Sw-0005qJ-I9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:01:54 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N76Rx-0008H4-PB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:00:54 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2293251C002 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:01:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25C95F3862 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:01:42 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id AD4D318056; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:01:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from 12.168-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (12.168-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.240.168.12]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:01:41 +0100 Message-ID: <20091108130141.ptdpp5udwsc8ksc4@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:01:41 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.240.168.12 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: New allocations for Norwegian radio Amateurs Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_4zmtj9c9wjcw" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --=_4zmtj9c9wjcw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable just received this 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T ----- Doorgestuurd bericht van la2rr@broadpark.no ----- Datum: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 12:50:29 +0100 Van: Ole Garpestad Hi folks, For your information: New secondary allocations for Norwegian radio amateurs As of November 6th 2009 the updated amateur radio licensing =20 regulations in Norway went into force. The main news are the following new allocations made available to all =20 Norwegian radio amateurs (in addition to the 135,7 - 137,8 kHz and the =20 7,1 - 7,2 MHz bands): LF: 493 - 510 kHz on secondary basis, 100 W, A1A (CW) only. HF: 5260 - 5410 kHz on secondary basis, all modes (6 kHz max bandwidth) 24740-24890 kHz on secondary basis, 1kW (6 kHz max bandwidth) VHF 70,0625-70,0875 MHz on secondary basis, 100 W, max bandwidth 16 kHz 70,1375-70,1875 MHz on secondary basis, 100 W, max bandwidth 16 kHz 70,2625-70,3125 MHz on secondary basis, 100 W, max bandwidth 16 kHz 70,3625-70,3875 MHz on secondary basis, 100 W, max bandwidth 16 kHz 70,4125-70,4625 MHz on secondary basis, 100 W, max bandwidth 16 kHz and some minor adjustments at SHF and EHF. As of today the full text is only available in Norwegian, but let me =20 know if you need any additional info, I will assist as best i can (the =20 URL for the Norwegian text is =20 http://www.lovdata.no/ltavd1/filer/sf-20091105-1340.html ). 73 Ole, LA2RR ----- Einde doorgestuurd bericht ----- --=_4zmtj9c9wjcw Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_LYRIS2319315075720091108065117rikstrobbefyskuleuvenbere_"; name="" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --_000_LYRIS2319315075720091108065117rikstrobbefyskuleuvenbere_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi folks, For your information: New secondary allocations for Norwegian radio amateurs As of November 6th 2009 the updated amateur radio licensing regulations in= Norway went into force. The main news are the following new allocations made available to all Norw= egian radio amateurs (in addition to the 135,7 - 137,8 kHz and the 7,1 -= 7,2 MHz bands): LF: 493 - 510 kHz on secondary basis, 100 W, A1A (CW) only. HF: 5260 - 5410 kHz on secondary basis, all modes (6 kHz max bandwidth) 24740-24890 kHz on secondary basis, 1kW (6 kHz max bandwidth) VHF 70,0625-70,0875 MHz on secondary basis, 100 W, max bandwidth 16 kHz 70,1375-70,1875 MHz on secondary basis, 100 W, max bandwidth 16 kHz 70,2625-70,3125 MHz on secondary basis, 100 W, max bandwidth 16 kHz 70,3625-70,3875 MHz on secondary basis, 100 W, max bandwidth 16 kHz 70,4125-70,4625 MHz on secondary basis, 100 W, max bandwidth 16 kHz and some minor adjustments at SHF and EHF. As of today the full text is only available in Norwegian, but let me know= if you need any additional info, I will assist as best i can (the URL for= the Norwegian text is http://www.lovdata.no/ltavd1/filer/sf-20091105-134= 0.html ). 73 Ole, LA2RR --_000_LYRIS2319315075720091108065117rikstrobbefyskuleuvenbere_ Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi folks,
 
For your information:
 
 
New secondary allocations for= Norwegian=20 radio amateurs
 
As of November 6th 2009 the updated= amateur=20 radio licensing regulations in Norway went into force.
The main news are the following new alloc= ations=20 made available to all Norwegian radio amateurs (in addition to the 135,7= - 137,8=20 kHz and the 7,1 - 7,2 MHz bands):
 
LF:
493 - 510 kHz on secondary basis, 100 W,= A1A (CW)=20 only.
 
HF:
5260 - 5410 kHz on secondary basis, all= modes (6=20 kHz max bandwidth)
24740-24890 kHz on secondary basis,= =20 1kW  (6 kHz max bandwidth)
 
VHF
70,0625-70,0875 MHz on secondary basis,= 100 W, max=20 bandwidth 16 kHz   
70,1375-70,1875 MHz on secondary basis,= 100 W, max=20 bandwidth 16 kHz
70,2625-70,3125 MHz on secondary basis,= 100 W, max=20 bandwidth 16 kHz
70,3625-70,3875 MHz on secondary basis,= 100 W, max=20 bandwidth 16 kHz
70,4125-70,4625 MHz on secondary bas= is, 100 W,=20 max bandwidth 16 kHz
 
and some minor adjustments at SHF and=20 EHF.
 
As of today the full text is only availab= le in=20 Norwegian, but let me know if you need any additional info, I will assist= as=20 best i can (the URL for the Norwegian text is  http:/= /www.lovdata.no/ltavd1/filer/sf-20091105-1340.html ).
<= /FONT>
 
73
Ole, LA2RR
 
 
 
 
 
--_000_LYRIS2319315075720091108065117rikstrobbefyskuleuvenbere_-- --=_4zmtj9c9wjcw-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC053-b374b03c18c132; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:42:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC083-b374b03c18c132; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:42:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAh2k-0000yl-L7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:41:42 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAh2j-0000yZ-M8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:41:41 +0000 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAh2i-0007S1-Fx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:41:41 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.1]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091118094135.PZDX17277.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:41:35 +0000 Received: from [81.109.247.175] (helo=jimdesk) by know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAh2Z-0004pC-K3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:41:35 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: References: <572081.7375.qm@web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:41:29 -0000 Message-ID: <02b601ca6833$4e59f6e0$0517aac0@jimdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <572081.7375.qm@web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Thread-Index: AcpoMWrrCm+VoCmASxyDQaVTv/2VgAAAS2hg X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=MDZQaXdsAAAA:8 a=8RloEfZUAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=XzrfCR61MmQPtzHM4p8A:9 a=C9PNA2NZDH64AnnVdv8A:7 a=Sw0b4iNCz2W10J1RAoQnxkx5yA0A:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=nhn505YfawQA:10 a=O58u2wXj750A:10 a=3Sf-kTeUB8AL-r8b:21 a=j5Cx0pzmvb2eDnVw:21 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=KDqohqnSO_qWppd6dAAA:9 a=0kc6OIgKMUe8DFH4fzQA:7 a=X_pNSmixoe4HPCcyoYwUHxb_nPsA:4 a=Yw4auK_1PsSwxIDI:21 a=zBjAJyCjIzCg_Cgx:21 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: RE: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02B7_01CA6833.4E59F6E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_02B7_01CA6833.4E59F6E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Pete The Rig only gets overly hot on powers over abt 20 watt output and 20%+ duty cycle (not to be unexpected given the operation at or beyond the limits of design). When I run it around 10 to 15 watts and on 10% duty it stays just lightly warm so as far as I can tell there is no discontinuity or paradox in the ouput/duty/warming matrix! The sidebands will no doubt be still there, just beyond the limit of detection With best regards Jim Dr. James Cowburn _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of M0FMT Sent: 18 November 2009 09:27 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands Hi LF I think the issue is intermodulation products caused by over driving the the linear RF stages of the TX into distortion because when Jim reduces drive the sidebands petty well disappear at this range. These observation is based upon test carried out yesterday. There is another issue Jim seems to have which is that his PA grossly over heats (I think I am right) when he reduces drive and that shouldn't happen. For modulation to take place the output of the modulator has to be mixed (hetrodyned) with the RF signal. In this case I am guessing that the carrier is modulated by noise (50c/s say) in the non linear (over driven linear RF stages) in the TX driver or output. The fact the PA over heats on reduced drive suggests to me the bias on the PA transistors is being altered by changes to the drive anther indication that the TX output may not be entirely linear --- On Wed, 18/11/09, James Moritz wrote: From: James Moritz Subject: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 1:13 Dear Jim LF Group, Looking at the sidebands on the G7NKS WSPR signals, mains hum or other noise by itself is not a sufficient explanation of what is seen. Simply adding 50Hz, 150Hz, etc. noise into the PC audio channel, then feeding the result into an SSB TX would give unwanted CW at frequencies offset from the SSB carrier frequency by +/-50Hz, 150Hz and so on, i.e. with the carrier "dial frequency" at 502.4kHz, unmodulated carriers would appear at 502.45kHz, 502.55kHz and so on, in addition to the WSPR signal at around 503.9kHz. However, these would probably largely be removed by the SSB filter in the rig. Instead, we see unwanted sidebands offset from the wanted WSPR signal frequency by +/- 50Hz, 150Hz, with identical modulation to the wanted signal. This requires some sort of non-linear process to cause the intermodulation between the presumed mains noise and the WSPR signal somewhere in the TX chain. One possibility is that intermodulation occurs in the PA. Jim's description suggests that he is persuading the HF PA in the IC735 to produce output at 500k. At this frequency, the PA linearity may well be poor due to the impedance matching, coupling, decoupling and feedback components in the PA being wrong for the frequency, and high flux densities occuring in ferrite components due to the low operating frequency. But this wouldn't explain why Jim also gets multiple received signals from a strong station with a clean signal, which implies some identical noise source and distortion in the receive path. It would also mean the mains noise getting through the filtering in the rig somehow. A possibility that would explain the unwanted sidebands appearing on both TX and RX signals is if one of the oscillators in the system has mains noise sidebands. The sound card clock seems unlikely, since this is just a simple crystal oscillator. I see the IC735 has some sort of multi-loop PLL synthesiser, which would certainly be prone to this type of spurious signal, since any kind of mains noise getting in would modulate the VCO frequencies, and would probably be the same on transmit and receive. This could be checked by receiving a clean carrier somewhere around 500kHz, and examining the audio output using Spec Lab or Argo or similar to see if 50Hz and 150Hz sidebands are present on the received audio tone. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Cowburn" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:26 PM Subject: LF: rule #2 - assumption is the brother of all foul ups > LF > > > > Sidebands are back! I think its caused by my TX getting hot and bothered by > struggling at 500. From cold it txs 50 watts but this soon drops back to > around 35, and the sidebands appear. My sigs are better so having the txfr > outside the shack and at the antenna is a vast improvement, but I now need > to work on the cooling. ------=_NextPart_000_02B7_01CA6833.4E59F6E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Pete

 

The Rig only ge= ts overly hot on powers over abt 20 watt output and 20%+ duty cycle (not to be unexpected give= n the operation at or beyond the limits of design).  When I run it arou= nd 10 to 15 watts and on 10% duty it stays just lightly warm so as far as I can te= ll there is no discontinuity or paradox in the ouput/duty/warming matrix! =

 

The sidebands= will no doubt be still there, just beyond the limit of detection

 

 

 

With best regar= ds

 

 

Jim=

 

 

Dr. James Cowbu= rn

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org [mailto:owner-= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of M0FMT
Sent: 18 November 2009= 09:27
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: Re: G7= NKS sidebands

 

Hi LF

 

I think the issue is intermodulation pro= ducts caused by over driving the the linear RF stages of the TX into distortion&n= bsp;because when Jim reduces drive the sidebands petty well disappear at this ra= nge. These observation is based upon test carried out yesterday. There is= another issue Jim seems to have which is that his PA grossly over heats (I= think I am right) when he reduces drive and that shouldn't happen. For modulati= on to take place the output of the modulator has to be mixed (hetrody= ned) with the RF signal. In this case I am guessing that the carrier is modula= ted by noise (50c/s say) in the non linear (over driven linear RF stages)= in the TX driver or output.

The fact the PA over heats on reduced dr= ive suggests to me the bias on the PA transistors is being altered by changes to= the drive anther indication that the TX output may not be entirely linear

--- On Wed, 18/11/09, James Mori= tz <james.moritz@btopenworld= .com> wrote:


From: James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
Subject: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 1:13

Dear Jim= LF Group,

Looking at the sidebands on the G7NKS WSPR signals, mains hum or oth= er noise by itself is not a sufficient explanation of what is seen. Simply ad= ding 50Hz, 150Hz, etc. noise into the PC audio channel, then feeding the= result into an SSB TX would give unwanted CW at frequencies offset from the= SSB carrier frequency by +/-50Hz, 150Hz and so on, i.e. with the carrier "dial frequency" at 502.4kHz, unmodulated carriers would= appear at 502.45kHz, 502.55kHz and so on, in addition to the WSPR signal at ar= ound 503.9kHz. However, these would probably largely be removed by the SS= B filter in the rig. Instead, we see unwanted sidebands offset from the wante= d WSPR signal frequency by +/- 50Hz, 150Hz, with identical modulation to th= e wanted signal. This requires some sort of non-linear process to cause the intermodulation between the presumed mains noise and the WSPR signal somewhere in the TX chain.

One possibility is that intermodulation occurs in the PA. Jim's desc= ription suggests that he is persuading the HF PA in the IC735 to produce out= put at 500k. At this frequency, the PA linearity may well be poor due to th= e impedance matching, coupling, decoupling and feedback components in= the PA being wrong for the frequency, and high flux densities occuring in= ferrite components due to the low operating frequency. But this wouldn't exp= lain why Jim also gets multiple received signals from a strong station with= a clean signal, which implies some identical noise source and distortion in= the receive path. It would also mean the mains noise getting through the filtering in the rig somehow.

A possibility that would explain the unwanted sidebands appearing on= both TX and RX signals is if one of the oscillators in the system has mains= noise sidebands. The sound card clock seems unlikely, since this is just= a simple crystal oscillator. I see the IC735 has some sort of multi-loop PLL synthesiser, which would certainly be prone to this type of spurious= signal, since any kind of mains noise getting in would modulate the VCO freq= uencies, and would probably be the same on transmit and receive. This could= be checked by receiving a clean carrier somewhere around 500kHz, and examining= the audio output using Spec Lab or Argo or similar to see if 50Hz and 150Hz si= debands are present on the received audio tone.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU


----- Original Message ----- From: "James Cowburn" <james.cowburn@virgin.net>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org>
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:26 PM
Subject: LF: rule #2 - assumption is the brother of all foul ups


> LF
>
>
>
> Sidebands are back!  I think its caused by my TX getting= hot and bothered by
> struggling at 500.  From cold it txs 50 watts but this soo= n drops back to
> around 35, and the sidebands appear.  My sigs are better= so having the txfr
> outside the shack and at the antenna is a vast improvement, but= I now need
> to work on the cooling.

 

------=_NextPart_000_02B7_01CA6833.4E59F6E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg03.mx.aol.com (rly-dg03.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.87]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDG071-5b74b131eeb3d7; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:25:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG038-5b74b131eeb3d7; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:25:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEuzP-0004wA-Hs for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:23:43 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEuzP-0004w1-4G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:23:43 +0000 Received: from smtp22.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.11]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEuzN-0006Pw-T0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:23:43 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2208.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4CEF37000082 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:23:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (12.5.194-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.194.5.12]) by msfrf2208.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 0D7FE7000081 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:23:31 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091130012332553.0D7FE7000081@msfrf2208.sfr.fr Message-ID: <000a01ca715b$bab001a0$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: References: <000601ca7145$6ec0c650$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> <000e01ca7147$a4916850$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:23:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091129-1, 29/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: F8boj qrss60 137776.20hz Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Good night Andrey LF Many thanks for your very good grabber good week Claude f8boj jn16wa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:59 PM Subject: LF: Re: F8boj qrss60 137776.20hz > Hello Claude > Here now a dirty air( > > 73 Andrey > >> Good evening Andrey >> Many thanks for the openning your grabber >> y copy my traces very well >> thanks you very match also for the Markus DF6NM grabber >> and F1afj JPierre good night for all >> Claude F8boj JN16wa > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb01.mx.aol.com (rly-mb01.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.154]) by air-mb03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB031-cec4b092c6424b; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:20:09 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB018-cec4b092c6424b; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:19:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCBPA-0002dE-FT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:19:00 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCBPA-0002d5-3r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:19:00 +0000 Received: from mbox2.netikka.net ([213.250.81.203]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCBP8-0003uI-Ef for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:19:00 +0000 Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by mbox2.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E137340810B for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:18:52 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBCAB495B9D for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:18:52 +0200 (EET) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:18:52 +0200 Message-ID: <1258892332.4b092c2cd7c34@imp.netikka.net> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:18:52 +0200 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: DK7FC/P 559 calling CQ on 136.8kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) LF Nice mid-day condx. Now listening to DK7FC/P JN49IS RST 559 calling CQ in= CW on 136.8kHz 1215UTC. Mini-Whip @ 10m AGL / IC-R75 Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ Vaasa / KP03SD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDC034-b214b103a1b36a; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:44:23 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC055-b214b103a1b36a; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:44:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NE7eb-0007Sw-MK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:42:57 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NE7eb-0007Sn-40 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:42:57 +0000 Received: from smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.16]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NE7eY-0002Cm-PQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:42:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 7947 invoked from network); 27 Nov 2009 20:42:49 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=vxqaj6XpmSKUu2sVRQWtdw5qU7TmajEiRV4akQSjQzGxZqpUBi3fqEWf+qIi6RxYcrdTTHrTbSME/MvQQ9RIRGxH65DfC2z6Az2EBedhuznFcg9QH4hnlp3/mKK2DkcW5VTZKc2heU6FiFUlczAinVgprmh7YWtGoKLQ4WVqg+0= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@213.122.67.247 with login) by smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Nov 2009 20:42:48 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: KHdpK2OswBBXlm4uxknbEiS4uYdJoGknHN90u4K8__lTafnafZg- X-YMail-OSG: p77kcX4VM1nsIJfXNUYHliuYtFlWV133GQzFNRWUfjrBzOLcXsCQQpjjphL1j.zaq0EhBc7mrib26ElCEWXBFtzEF.Gy3lpQsTTB2jx4YIteKSo.eVwaUsqlLhwjG87ULMOH1QTGx98hQDbbVytTI_aDn21pEO03oUoqF.WuI9.4_8TMARiA6sMadkQ9Y2rpVUKSXiRGhJ_J45Ctzf9Tj_tOg46qsDiz4Vhn6ttREZVenSTkEcdWNq0oWlySfVYjnlXdX2TGPXL6o0xoTFbYZNN6a4yA5SWzCQ2oSKceBJWKOrgvyoQvMTE36gx8aduk5G7u8cHr2Bs.V8Xm6nvuTEt8RhbbJgE- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <004301ca6fa2$2fb1d890$0900a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <806352.5294.qm@web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:42:36 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: How do I use Spectrum Lab as a VLF Soft Receiver ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 I am not sure about this you need to scour the help files but the SID receiver is not meant for listening to it is to produce a sig-strength v time plot. You might need some fairly crafty software connection for Spec Lab Wolf will maybe reply he does monitor. As an easy alternative try WinRad by Alberto www.weaksignals.com and just stick a wire into the mic input and you get a full SDR receiver. I am not sure you get sound out even then you may be Virtual Audio Cable, or perhaps Alberto has a hook in the code now. The thing is you are using the card twice....once to pruduce the receiver and again to produce the audio output. I cant check at the moment I am still in the process of loading up this PC. Best Wishes Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy - KU4XR" To: ; Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 7:14 PM Subject: LF: How do I use Spectrum Lab as a VLF Soft Receiver ? > Hello All: > > I have recently been trying to get a soundcard VLF receiver > going. I found a SAQ receiver on the web designed by > Johan - SM6LKM. It works good I suppose never having tried > this before. I can hear " Radio noise " in other words, it > actually sounds like a receiver. When I connect enough > coils in series, with a variable cap to ground to make a > pre-selector, The noise floor will rise 20 dB when I tune > the Cap. and you can see the peak move across the spectrum > display. However, that's as far as you can go, You can't > choose a sound card, it automatically chooses the windows > default card, and I haven't found a way to use DSP filtering > with it, since everything is based on the sound card alone. > > Now for Spectrum Lab, It has a built in " SID " receiver, > and the built in DSP filters work in the program. I just can't > get it to work !!!!! All I can get is low freq. hum, or > digital noise. It makes no difference with or without an Ant. > I've changed sound card sample rates, and FFT settings, > nothing works for me. > > Does anyone have any suggestions for me to try ?? Thank you. > > 73 to all ::: > > > Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN. > LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 185.29866 KHz ( QRSS-60 ) > Coordinates: N: 35* 43' 54" - W: 84* 3' 16" > http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr > http://webpages.charter.net/ku4xr/ > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD083-9294b0325951bf; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:37:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD101-9294b0325951bf; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:37:10 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAWek-0006vI-Ry for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:36:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAWek-0006v9-Cw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:36:14 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAWej-0002dZ-Qm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:36:14 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ABF17B8053 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:35:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CBE831E702 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:35:54 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id AA8AA18056; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:35:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from 39.10-180-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (39.10-180-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [91.180.10.39]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:35:53 +0100 Message-ID: <20091117233553.n5v35rzuow8swks8@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:35:53 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <000501ca67ba$e4817db0$6c01a8c0@DELL4> In-Reply-To: <000501ca67ba$e4817db0$6c01a8c0@DELL4> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 91.180.10.39 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Jay, condx are improving rapidly. Now "O" copy of XGR2, marginal audible 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting "jrusgrove@comcast.net" : > T/A enthusiasts > > WE2XGR/2 will beacon in QRSS3 mode tonight on 506.5 kHz from ~ 2130 to ~ > 0030 Z. Reports appreciated. > > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG042-a1b4b08e332183; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:07:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG065-a1b4b08e332183; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:07:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NC6WS-0000Ik-0Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:06:12 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NC6WQ-0000Ib-Mi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:06:10 +0000 Received: from col0-omc1-s15.col0.hotmail.com ([65.55.34.25]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NC6WN-0002VX-SK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:06:10 +0000 Received: from COL122-W13 ([65.55.34.7]) by col0-omc1-s15.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:05:58 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:05:58 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Nov 2009 07:05:58.0649 (UTC) FILETIME=[3E0C5690:01CA6B42] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_9754aab7-4463-4848-be30-df8a2ec25611_" Subject: LF: VX9MRC_in_OK X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --_9754aab7-4463-4848-be30-df8a2ec25611_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_d5b87562-0f6b-49e5-b4a4-103d3b5f7a3e_" --_d5b87562-0f6b-49e5-b4a4-103d3b5f7a3e_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Joe, LF! I tried to receive on 507.775kHz and I was successfull - see captures. I= think, it might be the first report of MRC=B4s signal in OK, so I am very= pleased (Can you confirm it, Joe?). I will be ready next night as well. Aerial: LF-Amrad (home made) RX: SPM-30 with selective preamplifier (home made) 73! Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS =20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: Zjedodu=B9te si ka=BEdodenn=ED =FAkoly. Kter=FD po=E8=EDta=E8= je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD? http://windows.microsoft.com/shop=3D --_d5b87562-0f6b-49e5-b4a4-103d3b5f7a3e_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Joe, LF!
I tried to receive on 507.775kHz and I was successfull= - see captures. I think, it might be the first report of MRC=B4s signal= in OK, so I am very pleased (Can you confirm it, Joe?). I will be ready= next night as well.

Aerial: LF-Amrad (home made)
RX: SPM-30 wit= h selective preamplifier (home made)

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88= KS 

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Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd2113aa43e0c04788f204f X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d305.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0cd2113aa43e0c04788f204f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Laurence, LF, You wrote :- "Anybody want to comment on whether their audio spectrum output from their SDR IQ is a bit "lumpy" with not exactly flat levelling across the 1-4Khz range? Maybe my soundcard but I see some variations of a couple of dBs on this one..." I use a Softrock Lite on 500kHz connected to a Mini-Whip active antenna. I get a hump in various places depending on what part of the band the main antenna is tuned to, so I have to put up with that. If the main antenna is disconnected from the tuning coil at the base then the Softrock & Mini-Whip produces a flat band from 490 kHz to 510 kHz. 2009/11/17 Laurence BY3A-KL1X China > Congrats all - > > its a very (very) quiet night so far on LF/MF which may signify either > very good or very bad, and am present looking for signals from NA - > > > Im not that good to tell you which until Eu gets dark. Its not been very > good the past day or so with mediocre signals on 137 from DCF39 et al - > still Ill be looking on any desired freq. > > I can hear Loran clatter on 137 which means the local QRN is very low and > NDB "DD" (Located near Xlbreast, China) :-) is putting is a Fully > developed signal. > > Nice clear night here already and looking for some nice shooting stars..saw > a couple of > spectacular ones last week in Mexico. > > Anybody want to comment on whether their audio spectrum output from their > SDR IQ is a bit "lumpy" with not exactly flat levelling across the 1-4Khz > range? Maybe my soundcard but I see some variations of a couple of dBs on > this one... > > Laurence KL1 X in BY3A > > Still jetlagged. > > > > > > Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:13:41 +0100 > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be > > Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6 > > > > Peter, > > > > likewise, I saw on Joe's website that you had a QRSS3 QSO with him > > earlier some days ago. > > > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > > > At 11:04 17/11/2009, you wrote: > > >Congratulations Rik > > > > > >Peter, G3LDO > > > > Rik, > > > > > > > > Well done. > > > > > > > > I should be in a position to attempt the same as I saw solid QRS > > > > signals from Joe. > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > > > > > 2009/11/17 Rik Strobbe > > > > > > > > > > > > Gary, All, > > > > > > > > yesterday I could copy VX9MRC in QRSS3 with a surprising strong > > > > signal as early as 18 UTC, when I launched Argo. > > > > Throughout the evening the signal was strong and with little QSB > > > > from 19-22UTC, after that the signal became weaker with much more > QSB. > > > > Probably because I had a sked with Joe at 22:40 UTC ;-) . > > > > But despite all we managed to complete the QSO with both way M > > > > report (would have been a solid O earlier the evening). > > > > A first ON-VE QSO on 500kHz and with +/- 4075km a new DX record for > me > > > > Joe transmitted on 507.770 and I on 501.190. > > > > Between 19 and 22 UTC the signal was audible most of the time and > > > > would have been CW copy if it were not squeezed between the NDB > > > > "Z" carrier at 507.980 (S9+ here) the SM6BHZ CW/SSB test > > > > transmissions (up to S9) and a local birdie on 507.600. > > > > > > > > For the QSO I was running 300W into my 11m high / 25m long lazy-L > > > > antenna, estimated ERP about 1.5 Watt (at best, if the greenery > > > > does not absorb too much) > > > > > > > > The night from Sunday - Monday I left Argo running, VX9MRC > > > > produced a good signal all through the night and faded out at > > > > 07UTC. This would mean that there is a potential transatlantic > > > > path on 500kHz for 13h a day !!! > > > > > > > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > > > > > > > At 17:05 16/11/2009, you wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > Good signals from both stations last night. > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. > --000e0cd2113aa43e0c04788f204f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Laurence, LF,

You wrote :-
"Anybody want= to comment on whether their audio spectrum output=A0from their SDR IQ is= a bit "lumpy" with not exactly flat levelling across the 1-4Khz= range? Maybe my soundcard but I see some variations of a couple of dBs on= this one..."

I use a Softrock Lite on 500kHz connected to a Mini-Wh= ip active antenna. I get a hump in various places depending on what part= of the band the main antenna is tuned to, so I have to put up with that.= If the main antenna is disconnected from the tuning coil at the base then= the Softrock & Mini-Whip produces a flat band from 490 kHz to 510 kHz= .

2009/11/17 Laurence BY3A-KL1X China <helloze= rohellozero@hotmail.com>
Congrats all -
=A0
=A0its a very (very) quiet night so far on LF/MF which may signify=A0eithe= r very good or very bad, and am present looking for signals from NA=A0- =A0
=A0
Im not that good to tell you which until Eu gets dark. Its not been very= good the past day or so with mediocre signals on 137 from DCF39 et al =A0= - still Ill be looking on any desired freq.
=A0
I can hear Loran clatter on 137 which means the local QRN is very low and= NDB "DD" (Located near Xlbreast, China) :-) is putting is a Ful= ly developed=A0signal.=A0
=A0
Nice clear night here already and looking for some=A0nice shooting stars..= saw a couple of
spectacular=A0ones last week in=A0Mexico.
=A0
Anybody want to comment on whether their audio spectrum output=A0from thei= r SDR IQ is a bit "lumpy" with not exactly flat levelling across= the 1-4Khz range? Maybe my soundcard but I see some variations of a coupl= e of dBs on this one...
=A0
Laurence=A0KL1 X in BY3A
=A0
Still jetlagged.
=A0
=A0
=A0
=A0
> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:13:41 +0100
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g
> From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be
> Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6
>
> Peter,=
>
> likewise, I saw on Joe's website that you had a QRSS= 3 QSO with him
> earlier some days ago.
>
> 73, Rik ON= 7YD - OR7T
>
> At 11:04 17/11/2009, you wrote:
> >Congratulations= Rik
> >
> >Peter, G3LDO
> > > Rik,
>= > >
> > > Well done.
> > >
> > >= ; I should be in a position to attempt the same as I saw solid QRS
> > > signals from Joe.
> > >
> > > Gary= - G4WGT.
> > >
> > > 2009/11/17 Rik Strobbe <<= a href=3D"mailto:rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be" target=3D"_blank">rik.strobb= e@fys.kuleuven.be
> > > <mailto:rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>>
> > &g= t;
> > > Gary, All,
> > >
> > > yester= day I could copy VX9MRC in QRSS3 with a surprising strong
> > > signal as early as 18 UTC, when I launched Argo.
> &g= t; > Throughout the evening the signal was strong and with little QSB> > > from 19-22UTC, after that the signal became weaker with= much more QSB.
> > > Probably because I had a sked with Joe at 22:40 UTC ;-) .> > > But despite all we managed to complete the QSO with both= way M
> > > report (would have been a solid O earlier the eve= ning).
> > > A first ON-VE QSO on 500kHz and with +/- 4075km a new DX re= cord for me
> > > Joe transmitted on 507.770 and I on 501.190.=
> > > Between 19 and 22 UTC the signal was audible most of th= e time and
> > > would have been CW copy if it were not squeezed between the= NDB
> > > "Z" carrier at 507.980 (S9+ here) the SM6= BHZ CW/SSB test
> > > transmissions (up to S9) and a local bir= die on 507.600.
> > >
> > > For the QSO I was running 300W into my 11= m high / 25m long lazy-L
> > > antenna, estimated ERP about 1.= 5 Watt (at best, if the greenery
> > > does not absorb too muc= h)
> > >
> > > The night from Sunday - Monday I left Arg= o running, VX9MRC
> > > produced a good signal all through the= night and faded out at
> > > 07UTC. This would mean that ther= e is a potential transatlantic
> > > path on 500kHz for 13h a day !!!
> > >
>= > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T
> > >
> > > At 17:= 05 16/11/2009, you wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi All,
&= gt; > >
> > > Good signals from both stations last night.
> > &g= t;
> > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.
> > >
> >= >
> > >
> > >
>
>

=
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--000e0cd2113aa43e0c04788f204f-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db10.mx.aol.com (rly-db10.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.85]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB031-aeb4b02b20a1ee; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:24:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB101-aeb4b02b20a1ee; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:24:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAOxB-0002pm-5r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:22:45 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAOxA-0002pd-3j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:22:44 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([199.185.220.240]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAOx7-0000MY-7d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:22:44 +0000 Received: from edtnaa01.telusplanet.net ([75.157.140.241]) by priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091117141834.QQDN703.priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net@edtnaa01.telusplanet.net> for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:18:34 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.67] (d75-157-140-241.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.140.241]) by edtnaa01.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id EC35B2F227993EDF for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:17:37 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4B02B081.4080003@telus.net> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 06:17:37 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1f0624b90911160805u4435bd18ue805924594d8b997@mail.gmail.com> <20091117081718.BDD6EF3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20091117081718.BDD6EF3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) The first illegal ON-VX QSO. Rik Strobbe wrote: > Gary, All, > > yesterday I could copy VX9MRC in QRSS3 with a surprising strong signal > as early as 18 UTC, when I launched Argo. > Throughout the evening the signal was strong and with little QSB from > 19-22UTC, after that the signal became weaker with much more QSB. > Probably because I had a sked with Joe at 22:40 UTC ;-) . > But despite all we managed to complete the QSO with both way M report > (would have been a solid O earlier the evening). > A first ON-VE QSO on 500kHz and with +/- 4075km a new DX record for me > Joe transmitted on 507.770 and I on 501.190. > Between 19 and 22 UTC the signal was audible most of the time and > would have been CW copy if it were not squeezed between the NDB "Z" > carrier at 507.980 (S9+ here) the SM6BHZ CW/SSB test transmissions (up > to S9) and a local birdie on 507.600. > > For the QSO I was running 300W into my 11m high / 25m long lazy-L > antenna, estimated ERP about 1.5 Watt (at best, if the greenery does > not absorb too much) > > The night from Sunday - Monday I left Argo running, VX9MRC produced a > good signal all through the night and faded out at 07UTC. This would > mean that there is a potential transatlantic path on 500kHz for 13h a > day !!! > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > At 17:05 16/11/2009, you wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> Good signals from both stations last night. >> >> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo. > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD022-9104b0380e539f; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:06:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD068-9104b0380e539f; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:06:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAcjT-0008Vs-6N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:05:31 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAcjS-0008Vj-4C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:05:30 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAcjP-00063h-Lh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:05:30 +0000 Received: from edmwaa03.telusplanet.net ([75.157.140.241]) by priv-edmwes23.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091118050525.YWKA1978.priv-edmwes23.telusplanet.net@edmwaa03.telusplanet.net> for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:05:25 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.67] (d75-157-140-241.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.140.241]) by edmwaa03.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 0157235667C139F1 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:05:25 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4B038095.9050807@telus.net> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:05:25 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <9afca2640911170243q3b4e2c95kb2668b937e727070@mail.gmail.com> <4B02BF9E.5020701@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <9afca2640911170734u7ebc121em5be88d61d99be249@mail.gmail.com> <20091117160109.6F44BF3863@smtps02.kuleuven.be> <4B02E76F.60609@mail.ru> In-Reply-To: <4B02E76F.60609@mail.ru> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: UA0AET Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Dmitry Could UA0AET try at a time of mutual darkness between UA0 and VE7? Please relay message. 73 Scott VE7TIL CN89dk http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/ Dmitry wrote: > Hi LF! > > UA0AET on DF6NM and BY3A-KL1X grabbers 137778.6 dfcw120 > > Dmitry > RA3YO > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de10.mx.aol.com (rly-de10.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.146]) by air-de08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE081-50b4b07abe43ab; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:59:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE106-50b4b07abe43ab; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:59:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBlnQ-0003IX-5M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:58:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBlnP-0003IO-Ns for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:58:19 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBlnO-0006BD-Vd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:58:19 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CF804C816E for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:58:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0724A4C808C for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:58:12 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B07ABA4.4060102@online.fr> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:58:12 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: LF T/A [137 kHz] good conditions ! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF, Good conditions last night on 137 Khz ! Yesterday evening : =93Y=94 (RA3YO) dfcw60 =93KDS=94 (????) qrss120 =93XKO=94 (WD2XKO) qrss 30 This Morning : XKO (WD2XKO) qrss60 Dex, pse look on my grabber , your sig are vy strong ! Thank you to be returned on 137 Khz ! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA011-8d34b08603c175; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:49:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA105-8d34b08603c175; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:48:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBxoF-00036E-6M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:47:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBxoE-000365-PJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:47:58 +0000 Received: from mail-px0-f177.google.com ([209.85.216.177]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBxoD-0002In-3B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:47:58 +0000 Received: by pxi7 with SMTP id 7so1629038pxi.17 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:47:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=rjD8frcFOflbXjwYDT9xgfHTuQdSp+SDQU2EiQIuO3A=; b=mHPO9YfOKVN86zGgb5nPUl+gmnrRKaUpBVHVqqATMRhtwnJP3mt3x3hpsLBo55ytJW i2B2pf0q3rE8E9WSDanJwcNwinuQCNxvyzJ6zqPpgQmSJ3bOUaoKd1YEuN+5yRBMcQLW pVLa1vYGULAT1B0bhZ/m6U8/ZvdGH7sNfJpUk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Poqn3dhjyHVwmC4GNHQ5OP6VSUUstx/kc1bcaX1eWrR5yWf0Y5ZgUFY/kg4lo5uj8d AEWHQGKjRCkzHWg3vCCTodaUIzRF6YXQoHfgI7Iei809aUJuhOTjGl0SV0/ZxWmRJjyJ /xUdrDCmvnhbVtAfNVDUcx1FHSKZK+RaWX+70= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.29.14 with SMTP id g14mr178556rvj.192.1258840068333; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:47:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4B04EADA.4090707@telus.net> <57a24ca70911190525s5bbf2768gcfe5e7150eb8f784@mail.gmail.com> <20091121211012.fehyrbxl4400ckc8@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:47:48 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 38ac1c78da9b856e Message-ID: <1f0624b90911211347o1e065203o6a2d769222f770b7@mail.gmail.com> From: Gary - G4WGT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: temporary grabber Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=000e0cd179901a223e0478e88bef X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m235.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --000e0cd179901a223e0478e88bef Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd179901a22330478e88bed --000e0cd179901a22330478e88bed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Joe, Copy here in NW UK also at 2142utc. 73 Gary - G4WGT 2009/11/21 > Thanks, Rik. > > It appears as the signals are there already. > > 73 > Joe > > On Sat, 21 Nov 2009, Rik Strobbe wrote: > > In the mean time, VX9MRC is presently on 507.77 kHz transmitting QRSS10 >>> >> >> Hello Joe, >> >> I have set up a temporary 507.77 kHz grabber at >> http://www.strobbe.eu/argo/argo.jpg >> >> 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >> >> > --000e0cd179901a22330478e88bed Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Joe,

= Copy here in NW UK also at 2142utc.

73
=
Gary - G4WGT


2009/11/21 <jcrai= g@mun.ca>
Thanks, Rik.

It appears as the signals are there already.

73
Joe

On Sat, 21 Nov 2009, Rik Strobbe wrote:

In the mean time, VX9MRC is presently on 507.77 kHz transmitting QRSS10

Hello Joe,

I have set up a temporary 507.77 kHz grabber at http://www.strobbe.eu/argo/argo.jp= g

73, Rik =A0ON7YD - OR7T



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<287859382.1258239176.158750212.87677@mcgi38.rambler.ru> <4AFF3A89.50604@ukonline.co.uk> Message-Id: <453502112.1258243350.166801688.88169@mcgi39.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Grabber is ON Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 G/E Peter. Congratulations! I copy your signal! http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/15nov2009_G3LDO/499.6W_3_00001.jpg And fine trace into 10: http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/15nov2009_G3LDO/499.6W_10_00002.jpg * Peter Dodd [Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:17:29 +0000]: > Hi Roman. > > 501.05kHz > > Peter, G3LDO > > > > My grabber started on up to finished your activity. > > qrss.nm.ru -> grabber. > > Looking to 501.2-501.36 and 502.0 > > Whats a real freq, Peter? > > > > -- > > Roman RW3ADB. > > > > > > > > -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (rly-dc02.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.31]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC032-b094b0846c53aa; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:00:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC025-b094b0846c53aa; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:00:07 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBw6z-0001E3-ML for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:59:13 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBw6z-0001Dt-3M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:59:13 +0000 Received: from out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.237]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBw6x-0002ib-3C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:59:13 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq8EAMvVB0tZ8oIK/2dsb2JhbACCJCuLOAbFOIQ8BA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,264,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="113089882" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([89.242.130.10]) by out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 21 Nov 2009 19:59:03 +0000 Message-ID: <00b301ca6ae5$12a838f0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <009b01ca6ae1$a841c970$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:59:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: ru6la Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B0_01CA6AE5.1254C1C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00B0_01CA6AE5.1254C1C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ed Pse CW ur 569 kk mal g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 7:34 PM Subject: LF: ru6la Nw 579 audible big signal. Tnx for earlier qso de mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_00B0_01CA6AE5.1254C1C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ed
Pse CW ur 569 kk
mal g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mal=20 hamilton
To: rsgb
Sent: Saturday, November 21,= 2009 7:34=20 PM
Subject: LF: ru6la

Nw 579 audible big signal. Tnx for= earlier=20 qso
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------=_NextPart_000_00B0_01CA6AE5.1254C1C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me05.mx.aol.com (rly-me05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.39]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME054-9ba4b0d51c51dd; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:48:30 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME056-9ba4b0d51c51dd; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:48:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDK5S-0004Am-11 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:47:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDK5R-0004Ad-Jd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:47:21 +0000 Received: from smtp817.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.17]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDK5Q-0002Ck-VV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:47:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 18637 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2009 15:47:15 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=ENPNam0+F8djAJslCAZQgIWMoAhuOTTq5TeqzpW6/9Jp+cbD1G5quSDQhvDGGug/clKZ7Ivkk5gNPue8ShT7lKsoaZx5fXaFjMDYtuAN92w+YRMeIOAD1igmNhZfQ/6eOuPBlcc9I5fvzzACGFTT2kDRh1C7U/0lzwUUeyEATk4= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@81.131.34.230 with login) by smtp817.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 2009 15:47:14 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: KHdpK2OswBBXlm4uxknbEiS4uYdJoGknHN90u4K8__lTafnafZg- X-YMail-OSG: OGMbnM4VM1kE7ANngIoTy2TMxizsytMxVCQHNpZ5lDfaE8DqOt3DJpbg8PK2OWLQmGqpSIGRUmvE0_c5C5RYLxJqm5F.Eeryzi3FQL9j1.IuOZof802RYiumbKGNG.LWfxIXU37kV5Z33suRJtVyAZxAlv0Wvh1fLv7nIo9iMqjSX5npfsVcRTJVtgz88FKg1OyJj1c9dbsZh03F3JpIXE_qwyAsjLEJSR_9gUJb3seuVgmzreuyVzJNQXtKNOG2qeoIMdu8vZK.xOTtBJHicx92pkN48TJ8zRfBzkEyDS2yvBklnMnI4Wbw7cZOcdu1URdUZnA5RlCf4m.yJlBalLCo1g-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <001901ca6de6$a34b30c0$0900a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:45:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: instability on MosFet amps Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Wolf this may not be the case with the properly tuned Class-E stage which has relatively low distortion. It does not output a square-wave as some think. See The QST article by Nat Sokal. Bear in mind filters complicate things further since they can transform mis-matches and only really work if resistively terminated. Even more reason to get your antenna right first. Loaded diplexor filters are a little more forgiving if you have harmonic problems but should not be necessary on Class-E a simple low-pass half-wave filter works well but use air cored coils, not toroids. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wolf Ostwald" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 3:25 PM Subject: LF: instability on MosFet amps > Hello group ! > > I found that almost all amp configurations generate harmonics. In case of a > homebrewed HF amp, with a push -pull design, I had to build hi-pass filters > with a resistive termination, so called split filters, for each band. > Without dissipating the harmonic energy the stage will have to cope with > excess voltages and thus bury the MosFets . > > My last amp stage for the DI2BJ-beacon is followed by a hi-pass that opens > at 750 kcs . This way the first harmonic and all the higher ones go into > thermal dissipation. > > A T-type adjustable low-pass is used to match and reduce harmonics further. > > Have fun de wolf df2py > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de05.mx.aol.com (rly-de05.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.141]) by air-de07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE071-4d54afacbb92ff; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:36:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE052-4d54afacbb92ff; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:35:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8EHK-0002eO-8F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:34:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8EHJ-0002eF-Cb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:34:33 +0000 Received: from elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.67]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8EGa-0006AT-Bo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:33:49 +0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=FSZMa2jBJyg5xbZkztR8P3OacaC0Jr4c2b8AU81OYrWwG/prDRscV/K5CxJ3lIUK; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.63] (helo=wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1N8EH7-00040m-U4; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:34:21 -0500 Received: from 63.229.66.189 by webmail.c.earthlink.net with HTTP; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:34:21 -0500 Message-ID: <28591998.1257950061757.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:34:21 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Trask To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: b77fdb70683249914713efb067f9a722239a348a220c26099da815785916a9b7b5cc2c7cf0b6548b2601a10902912494350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.63 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Ferrite characteristics Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 > > Does anyone know of a method of measuring the characteristics > (permeability) of ferrite cores? I have a box of these most > without any identification although I do have T200, 68-2T and > T68-2s whose characteristics are known. > > It occurs to me that you can make a tuned circuit and measure > resonance with a GDO when a ferrite core is inserted into the > inductance. A graph could be made of the different resonances > with different cores, to extrapolate the unknowns. > > However I think that ferrite bulk might be a problem. For example > I guess the red T cores use the same material but would there be > a difference between the T200 and the T68? > Since some are coloured, you can reasonably assume that they are powdered iron rather than ferrite as the ferrite manufacturers, particularly Fair-Rite and Ferronics, normally don't colour code their products, though Ferroxcube does. These two Micrometals URLs should help: http://www.micrometals.com/materials_index.html http://www.micrometals.com/materials_index.html Unfortunately, the tables provided by Ferroxcube do not provide the colour coding information, so you'll need to go through the individual datasheets: http://www.ferroxcube.com/prod/assets/sfmatgra_frnt.pdf The recent reply by Marco provided a reasonable approach to sorting out the permeability: > > just my 2 Eurocents... wound a few (5 to 20) turns, measure > L and take physical dimensions of the toroid, use G4FGQ's > toroid.exe, and then play with the parameters in the program > to find wich permeability gives the L you measured. The > program is pretty accurate, Reg did a nice job. > Chris ,----------------------. High Performance Mixers and / What's all this \ Amplifiers for RF Communications / extinct stuff, anyhow? / \ _______,--------------' Chris Trask / N7ZWY _ |/ Principal Engineer oo\ Sonoran Radio Research (__)\ _ P.O. Box 25240 \ \ .' `. Tempe, Arizona 85285-5240 \ \ / \ \ '" \ IEEE Senior Member #40274515 . ( ) \ '-| )__| :. \ Email: christrask@earthlink.net | | | | \ '. http://www.home.earthlink.net/~christrask c__; c__; '-..'>.__ Graphics by Loek Frederiks From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me04.mx.aol.com (rly-me04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.38]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME034-9b14b05859911a; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:51:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME045-9b14b05859911a; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:51:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBB9G-0001j8-B0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:50:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBB9F-0001iz-Uf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:50:25 +0000 Received: from mailout08.t-online.de ([194.25.134.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBB9F-00016F-CW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:50:25 +0000 Received: from fwd06.aul.t-online.de by mailout08.t-online.de with smtp id 1NBB9C-00053i-01; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:50:22 +0100 Received: from e7010 (V8Ab8TZOghMYQ7CNDWOR7bMDhoJW4JdC2g5rA2drCjB9wS0uXOPeheGrLuqzjy9wBP@[84.147.241.223]) by fwd06.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1NBB90-0DYLSa0; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:50:10 +0100 Message-ID: <004a01ca6940$bd5f18f0$6402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:50:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: V8Ab8TZOghMYQ7CNDWOR7bMDhoJW4JdC2g5rA2drCjB9wS0uXOPeheGrLuqzjy9wBP X-TOI-MSGID: 6a6ee167-2a84-45ed-93aa-7e8825a67953 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: DI2AG WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0047_01CA6949.1EE343A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01CA6949.1EE343A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear MF, the beacon DI2AG is now on air, 0.4W ERP QRG 505.090KHz. Stop= tomorrow morning. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01CA6949.1EE343A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear MF,
      &= nbsp; =20 the beacon DI2AG is now on air, 0.4W ERP QRG 505.090KHz. Stop tomorrow= =20 morning.
73   Walter   DI2= AG /=20 DJ2LF
 
------=_NextPart_000_0047_01CA6949.1EE343A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da03.mx.aol.com (rly-da03.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.77]) by air-da08.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDA084-a5d4b12d49f1fc; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:08:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA035-a5d4b12d49f1fc; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:08:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEq2u-0003cC-FS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:07:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEq2u-0003c3-1B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:07:00 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEq2s-0004RH-VM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:07:00 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D2E47B804B for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:06:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA5F31E702 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:06:48 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id 00BAF18056; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:06:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from 61.109-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (61.109-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [87.64.109.61]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:06:47 +0100 Message-ID: <20091129210647.u9ui1m1o4ws0804k@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:06:47 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <010c01ca7116$59615290$0317aac0@desktop> <843259.12319.qm@web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <9afca2640911291111v14a515dfy706294277775b7fa@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9afca2640911291111v14a515dfy706294277775b7fa@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 87.64.109.61 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_50_75=0.591 Subject: Re: LF: RTTY test transmission on 501.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL, UPPERCASE_50_75 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I can copy now G4WGT and G0NBD in PSK31 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting Roger Lapthorn : > G3XIZ is a good signal calling G0NBD on 501.6kHz RTTY. Not yet heard M0F= MT. > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > > 2009/11/29 M0FMT > > Jim FYI > > G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEACO > <091129 18:35:55 Start Logging> > N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C > OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS > G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEACO > N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C > OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS > G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEACO > N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C > OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS > G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEACO > N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C > OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS > AIG7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEAC= O > N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C > OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS > G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEACO > N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C > OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS > G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEACO > N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C > OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS > G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEACO > N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C > OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS > > 73 petefmt > > --- On Sun, 29/11/09, James Cowburn =20 > > wrote: > > From: James Cowburn =20 > > > Subject: LF: RTTY test transmission on 501.5 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 17:06 > > > Dear LF > > I am running a test RTTY transmission on 501.5 (I hope!!) It =20 > transmits for abt 1 min every 10 mins. > > I=E2=80=99d be grateful for any reports. I will shut it down at 20.00z= or =20 > before if necessary > > 73s > > Jim G7NKS > > > > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB053-ad84aed63063a0; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 05:29:36 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB076-ad84aed63063a0; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 05:29:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N4Xfg-0003Nk-Ov for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 10:28:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N4Xfg-0003Nb-Ci for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 10:28:28 +0000 Received: from [93.17.128.12] (helo=smtp22.services.sfr.fr) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N4Xdu-00037H-VZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 10:26:39 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2213.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D3CCE7000094 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 2009 11:27:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (unknown [77.196.43.225]) by msfrf2213.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 7EA39700008E for ; Sun, 1 Nov 2009 11:27:45 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091101102745518.7EA39700008E@msfrf2213.sfr.fr Message-ID: <000801ca5add$f44909a0$0201a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 11:27:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! 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hi oh1tn and LF
Good morning...what is  possible= my control=20
and also possible qso
Claude F8boj JN16WA
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01CA5AE6.5327DDE0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC094-b3a4b02d64d4c; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:00:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC086-b3a4b02d64d4c; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:58:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NARNP-0004Cv-6Q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:57:59 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NARNO-0004Cl-Hv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:57:58 +0000 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net ([165.212.64.32]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NARNM-0001f3-QZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:57:58 +0000 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net (co02-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout02.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D42E13449F for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:57:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps01.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.136] by cmsout02.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.58V) with ESMTP id XID042Nkqq6x0169X02; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:57:49 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.136 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps01.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID042Nkqq6x0169X02 Received: from [192.168.1.3] [151.47.214.229] by cmsapps01.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.53P) with ESMTPA id 557Nkqq6t2672M36; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:57:45 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.214.229 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.1.3] Message-ID: <4B02D606.6020908@usa.net> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:57:42 +0100 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <626551.33117.qm@web63607.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <002e01ca66fa$9edc5f20$0900a8c0@lark> <4B02D40E.20804@usa.net> In-Reply-To: <4B02D40E.20804@usa.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Z-USANET-MsgId: XID557Nkqq6U2672X36 X-Spam-Score: 2.4 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FUZZY_OCR=0.000,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08=2.435,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_HTML_ONLY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: LEONIDS and propagation Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------060501060703060607000804" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_04, HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TITLE_EMPTY,MIME_HTML_ONLY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --------------060501060703060607000804 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alberto di Bene wrote: 
   are you sure about that frequency ? I read on another group that
the Graves radar operates on 143.050 MHz
Hmmm, it looks like I as correct...



73  Alberto  I2PHD

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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am with Mal. =A0WSPR has no place on the UK 501 / 504 Kc/s Amateur Commu= nication Band. The Norwegian Licence has got it right - CW only! =A0 73 petefmt=A0 --- On Sat, 21/11/09, Andy - KU4XR wrote: From: Andy - KU4XR Subject: Re: LF: WSPR BEACONS To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Saturday, 21 November, 2009, 0:01 --- On Fri, 11/20/09, mal hamilton wrote: =A0 =A0 ******=A0 =A0 snippet=A0 =A0 ****** > a cw QSO operator in real time can qsy to take evasive=20 > action and avoid qrm to others on adjacent frequencies. > G3KEV =A0 =A0 ***** end snippet=A0 =A0 ****** By Jove !! is it possible that he finally " GOT IT " ??? heavens to wonders !! Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN. LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 185.29866 KHz ( QRSS-60 ) Coordinates:=A0 N:=A0 35* 43' 54" - W:=A0 84* 3' 16" http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr --- On Fri, 11/20/09, mal hamilton wrote: > From: mal hamilton > Subject: LF: WSPR BEACONS > To: "rsgb" > Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 2:58 PM >=20 >=20 >=A0=20 >=A0=20 >=20 >=20 >=A0=20 > These unattended Beacons > are often a source of QRM=20 > for the CW=A0QSO operator, whereas a cw QSO operator in > real time can qsy to=20 > take evasive action and avoid qrm to others on adjacent=20 > frequencies. > G3KEV > =A0=20 >=20 =20 --0-283788121-1258800863=:33618 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am with Mal.  WSPR has no place= on the UK 501 / 504 Kc/s Amateur Communication Band. The= Norwegian Licence has got it right - CW only!
 
73 petefmt 

--- On Sat, 21/11/09, Andy -= KU4XR <ku4xr@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Andy - KU4XR <ku4xr@yahoo.com>
= Subject: Re: LF: WSPR BEACONS
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date:= Saturday, 21 November, 2009, 0:01

--- On Fri, 11/20/09, mal hamilton wrote:

&n= bsp;   ******    snippet    ******

> a= cw QSO operator in real time can qsy to take evasive
> action and= avoid qrm to others on adjacent frequencies.
> G3KEV

 =   ***** end snippet    ******

By Jove !! is it poss= ible that he finally " GOT IT " ???
heavens to wonders !!

Andy= - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 185.29866= KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84*= 3' 16"
htt= p://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


--- On Fri, 11/20/09, mal hami= lton <g3kevmal@talktalk= .net> wrote:

> From: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
> Subje= ct: LF: WSPR BEACONS
> To: "rsgb" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
&g= t; Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 2:58 PM
>
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=20 --0-283788121-1258800863=:33618-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC102-b3b4af9b13ded; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:30:48 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC087-b3b4af9b13ded; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:30:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7vT6-0008FI-1d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:29:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7vT5-0008F9-Kx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:29:27 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s8.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.19]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7vSJ-0000DZ-3U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:28:39 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W10 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s8.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:29:19 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [216.152.181.103] From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China To: Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:29:19 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20091110192309.4v8agotbs0k0gocs@webmail6.kuleuven.be> References: <001101ca621e$dcdc3380$96949a80$@princeton.edu> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2009 18:29:19.0857 (UTC) FILETIME=[B7B72E10:01CA6233] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_HEADER_CTYPE_ONLY=0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_305766e2-44ac-4469-988e-5a8a567b9748_" Subject: LF: 500 to Eu X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_HEADER_CTYPE_ONLY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_305766e2-44ac-4469-988e-5a8a567b9748_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rik - Opening time to Eu from here in very snowy AK are at your dusk at th= e moment - so will be listening/looking again tonight. Sadly pretty cold= and deep White stuff outside so little work can be done :-( =20 Laurence Wasilla/Palmer Alaska WE2XPQ =20 KL1X BP51IP =20 > Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:23:09 +0100 > From: Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; jwfisher@alumni.princeton.edu > CC: g3xiz@yahoo.co.uk; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: 500 kHz WSPR de VE1JF >=20 > Jim, >=20 > I noticed you on WSPRnet yesterday, congrats for copying SM6BHZ. > Last night I got only 2 decodes from AA1A. > But SM6BHZ is another league, more power and a far better location. > So far my 200mW ERP WSPR signal has been copied by AA1A (FN42), K1JT=20 > (FN20) and VE1VDM (FN85). With 2 exceptions all decodes were between=20 > 22:00 and 22:30 UTC. > If WX stays dry I will be WSPR-ing tonight, any chance to take an=20 > early start ? >=20 > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >=20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=3Drestaurants&form=3DMFESRP&publ=3DWLHMTAG&cr= ea=3DTEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1=3D --_305766e2-44ac-4469-988e-5a8a567b9748_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rik - Opening time to Eu from here in very snowy AK are at your dusk= at the moment - so will be listening/looking again tonight. Sadly pr= etty cold and deep White stuff outside so little work can be done :-(
 
Laurence
Wasilla/Palmer Alaska WE2XPQ  
KL1X BP51IP
 
> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:23:09 +0100
>= ; From: Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o= rg; jwfisher@alumni.princeton.edu
> CC: g3xiz@yahoo.co.uk; rsgb_lf_g= roup@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: 500 kHz WSPR de VE1JF
>=
> Jim,
>
> I noticed you on WSPRnet yesterday, congra= ts for copying SM6BHZ.
> Last night I got only 2 decodes from AA1A.<= BR>> But SM6BHZ is another league, more power and a far better location= .
> So far my 200mW ERP WSPR signal has been copied by AA1A (FN42),= K1JT
> (FN20) and VE1VDM (FN85). With 2 exceptions all decodes wer= e between
> 22:00 and 22:30 UTC.
> If WX stays dry I will be= WSPR-ing tonight, any chance to take an
> early start ?
> > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T
>

Bi= ng brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now= . =3D --_305766e2-44ac-4469-988e-5a8a567b9748_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb06.mx.aol.com (rly-mb06.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.164]) by air-mb08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB083-d114aff216d119; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:30:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB065-d114aff216d119; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:30:22 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9QBO-00018v-Cn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:29:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9QBN-00018m-W2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:29:22 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9QBM-0006Jc-9L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Also audible here, actually on 507.77kHz Unfortunately the 507.98kHz carrier is S9+ here and makes it difficult to copy VX9MRC. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting mal hamilton : > VX9MRC active since 1950 utc beacon on 507.5 CW > De g3kev > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD022-b624af1f7101e3; 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Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:49:11 +0000 From: Chris Trayner To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:49:10 +0000 Thread-Topic: LF: "Poisson, Shannon, and the Radio Amateur" - copyright Thread-Index: AcpdmKTQJKjFiRW3TQ6EQVqCbyP7aw== Message-ID: <690BC337-348D-4D56-B898-E5596D30CCB3@leeds.ac.uk> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US, en-GB Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US, en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: "Poisson, Shannon, and the Radio Amateur" - copyright Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear Andy and others, On 2009 Nov 4, at 18:49, Andy Talbot wrote: > As Warren mentioned there are probably still copyright issues =20 > (after 50 years ??) Quite possibly, yes. Bear in mind that - If the IEEE (ex IRE) sued you, would we be talking about US law, =20 English law, International law or some (unholy?) mixture? [Remind me to buy shares in lawyers tomorrow ...] - The copyright on the original paper may have expired (not sure). But =20 when the IEEE scanned it they produced an artefact (the scan) which =20 counts as a work of art for legal purposes. They own copyright on =20 that. If you scanned a paper copy yourself, it might be legal to put =20 it up, but you'd want to check first with someone who r-e-a-l-l-y =20 knows the law! Copyright law is often described as a minefield, thought quagmire =20 might be a better term - watered by the tears of those who have tried =20 to do reasonable things under it. In fairness to the lawmakers, it =20 would be extremely hard to write such law which protects both the =20 creators and the users of such works. Just thought I'd bring a little sushine into your life ... 73, Chris G4OKW From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD092-b624b0063ff247; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:27:01 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD024-b624b0063ff247; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:26:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9lfE-0001Dq-Pb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:25:36 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9lfE-0001Dh-4L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:25:36 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9lfC-0001Io-Eg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:25:36 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3544.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id F39741C00082 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:25:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3544.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DFB0F1C00083 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:25:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.53.205]) by mwinf3544.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 889DC1C00082 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:25:28 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091115202528559.889DC1C00082@mwinf3544.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <1043CB7D895D4161B1C87CDD140332A2@AGB> <0CADF4DD71FD43A2A8384463754F6344@AGB> <4B005411.4010506@sighthound.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4B005411.4010506@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:25:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Running mW wspr Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 John, Ive have just configured the urv35 and thats showing 550 mW into the antenna tuner .... only thing I can do is connect the ma1723 directly to the ae feed , via the 10 dB x 1 step atten ..I will have to leave the power head in cct as nothing will be showing on anything except the rx .... see If I can set 50 mW .. thats -10 dB down on the carrier now urv measures past uW so thats not a problem hihi ..ive a 20 db inline100watt atten that may be a better option G ... two tick's or should that be clicks ... -------------------------------------------------- From: "John P-G" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 7:18 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Running mW wspr > > > > Graham wrote: > >> >> Crazy system ..... spot just in from John ! > > > I thought your mW signal was meant to be a challenge, but of course > Roger's already discovered that WSPR will decode signals that you can't > hear, and are often so weak on a waterfall that QRSS3 would be a struggle > (despite what someone here repeatedly fails to comprehend) > > Can you go any lower? > > John > GM4SLV > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (rly-dd05.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.152]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD072-b7b4b044e77154; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:44:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD055-b7b4b044e77154; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:43:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAqQX-0004Sz-AD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:42:53 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAqQW-0004Sq-M3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:42:52 +0000 Received: from smtp6.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.190]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAqQV-00020V-VW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:42:52 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3603.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 59E2F7000081 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:42:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3603.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4D77D7000085 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:42:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.63.163]) by mwinf3603.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 105177000081 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:42:46 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091118194246669.105177000081@mwinf3603.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <16A5877B6D04466BAC08011C5ED714A0@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <590EA4755AB54809BC2887F55D65D99A@AGB> <9afca2640911181055y33bb49e4q7707d46e339826b0@mail.gmail.com> <1519387EC57944BE82527527C2D6184D@AGB> <7B9E530A13DE479BA05DFA579C50586F@JimPC> In-Reply-To: <7B9E530A13DE479BA05DFA579C50586F@JimPC> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:42:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: T61AA 0.503929 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim . Yes, looks like he has dropped off the list ... Did have a exchange of emails a while ago, as he was looking to set up on 500 at Kandahar .. may be not yet then .. G ,, -------------------------------------------------- From: "James Moritz" Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 7:21 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: T61AA 0.503929 > > Dear Graham, LF Group, > > T61AA is bona fide and QRV on HF WSPR mode, apparently on 40m at the > moment - I reckon S51CN has not updated his frequency information > correctly. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graham" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 7:10 PM > Subject: Re: LF: T61AA 0.503929 > > > To quote ' This is not a drill .. This is the real thing '.. > > Is your RX on ? > > G ... > > T61AA Ross B > > Shasdarak Kabul, > > Afghanistan > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (rly-mg07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.113]) by air-mg04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG042-a224b09954d338; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:47:50 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG074-a224b09954d338; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:47:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCIOH-0005OX-Bz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:46:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCIOG-0005OO-Sw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:46:32 +0000 Received: from mail-ew0-f223.google.com ([209.85.219.223]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCIOG-0005ne-4U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:46:32 +0000 Received: by ewy23 with SMTP id 23so714880ewy.4 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:46:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=g3SudRCnQTDyN8MgqTCt+pE052peCfZTVlqMhVWLr4c=; b=fb35MJ8flkmp4iHszza4A1qZB9yoK2d0gTlxGAuoFaGNpPJW1O4Dii8+N9n/7LWSqz HRjof1tWKhZ4u0blcRn2IbywGhZ9wecvD586Oy447HF65yz4XwCkX7b0BW3T4uuO2/D4 UFLa+v2L3NYXG6pdHMOV1KsOE3e0d/I0JUPBM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=mspF+sWZ2NrBCvoc+rx1EHvln0wpYjkowUrNFz76ZxiFYoX21WPPcmwhQXMY08LZU+ v2PSYpczCdPsJf1qWJW2g1EBxL3GZccytZCqJFgOO/uJk9gvTgKgx2COcdzZ9eUguP6d WomFUz6cxmtu2rfT9dY8Smfr0/Q/Fb8GIyUkc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.15.14 with SMTP id i14mr3881131eba.50.1258919186463; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:46:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <00bb01ca6ba7$dd53d650$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> References: <00ad01ca6ba5$82fec130$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <00bb01ca6ba7$dd53d650$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:46:26 +0100 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Anton_B=E4rtschi?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: G3KEV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174bdcb6e8faea0478faf64a X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m277.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0015174bdcb6e8faea0478faf64a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tnx Mal. The reason for the weaker signal is simple: I moved to another QT= H five years ago. Here I have not the possibilities I had before. No Helix Vertical with a big top hat, just a modest L-Antenna, 12m high with a tota= l wire lenght of about 50m. Already on 160m it is not a "big gun", hi. 73 de Toni 2009/11/22 mal hamilton > You are OOO copy now at 1912 z > mal/g3kev > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* mal hamilton > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Sent:* Sunday, November 22, 2009 6:56 PM > *Subject:* LF: Re: G3KEV > > Tony > Tnx ur call but the qsb was severe. We have worked before on cw so do no= t > understand why u are so weak at present. > > de mal/g3kev > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Anton B=E4rtschi > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Sent:* Sunday, November 22, 2009 5:13 PM > *Subject:* LF: G3KEV > > You are "O" here, dear Mal, ufb. Sorry we couldn't make it. Probably my > antenna is to small. It seems to me, that my limit is around 800-900km= on > Longwave. Power is 1kW and I can't get much higher. But one day, we may= get > the permission for 500kHz and there it should be much easier, even in no= rmal > CW. > 73 de Toni, HB9ASB > > --0015174bdcb6e8faea0478faf64a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tnx Mal. The reason for the weaker signal is simple: I moved to another QT= H five years ago. Here I have not the possibilities I had before. No Helix= Vertical with a big top hat, just a modest L-Antenna, 12m high with a tot= al wire lenght of about 50m. Already on 160m it is not a "big gun&quo= t;, hi.
73 de Toni

2009/11/22 mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktal= k.net>
You are OOO copy now at 1912 z
mal/g3kev
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----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mal=20 hamilton
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009= 6:56=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: G3KEV

Tony
Tnx ur call but the qsb was severe.= We have=20 worked before on cw so do not understand why u are so weak at=20 present.
=A0
de mal/g3kev
=A0
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Anton B=E4rtschi=20
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 20= 09 5:13=20 PM
Subject: LF: G3KEV

You are "O" here, dear Mal, ufb. Sorry we cou= ldn't make it.=20 Probably my antenna is to small. It seems to me, that my limit is arou= nd=20 800-900km on Longwave. Power is 1kW and I can't get much higher.= But one=20 day, we may get the permission for 500kHz and there it should be much= =20 easier, even in normal CW.
73 de Toni, HB9ASB

--0015174bdcb6e8faea0478faf64a-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df11.mx.aol.com (rly-df11.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.24]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF051-58a4b0899d536c; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:54:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF113-58a4b0899d536c; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:54:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NC1de-0006FT-N4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:53:18 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NC1de-0006FK-6c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:53:18 +0000 Received: from mailout1.go2.pl ([193.17.41.11]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NC1db-0004TH-Pj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:53:18 +0000 Received: from mailout1.go2.pl (unknown [10.0.0.103]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07DC45D528C for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:53:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from o2.pl (unknown [10.0.0.38]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:53:14 +0100 (CET) From: bxi@go2.pl To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <001f01ca6b15$886a3ef0$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> References: <001f01ca6b15$886a3ef0$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <269d4aca.70953514.4b089989.d98cb@go2.pl Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:53:13 +0100 X-Originator: 89.76.56.60 X-Spam-Score: 2.3 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,INVALID_MSGID=1.71,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,SUBJECT_EXCESS_QP=0 Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_LF:_F8boj__/__sq2kds?= Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="==o2.pl-WebMail-c954353.730cd4fd.d98dd==" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=INVALID_MSGID,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --==o2.pl-WebMail-c954353.730cd4fd.d98dd== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Claude, LF Many thanks for first Poland/France long wave QSO. Vy 73! 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Radiocommunication Services and Stations 3. It is a term of a radio licence that the holder of the licence may (a) install, operate or possess radio apparatus to perform any of the following services, as authorized by the radio licence, namely, (i) aeronautical service, (ii) amateur radio service, (iii) public information service, (iv) developmental service, (v) fixed service, (vi) intersatellite service, (vii) land mobile service, (viii) maritime service, and (ix) radiodetermination service; and (b) install, operate or possess radio apparatus at a fixed station, mobile station or space station as authorized by the radio licence. Restriction Relating to Holders of Radio Licences 4. It is a term of a radio licence that the holder of the radio licence shall restrict the activities of the station to those radiocommunication services referred to in paragraph 3(a) that are specified in the licence. Jordan wrote: > Definitely a breach of regulations and procedures....VE-"X" stations > are not permitted 2-way contact with the Amateur service, nor any > other service. Operation is strictly limited to Beacon operation only. > > 73...Jordan VE6ZT > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 7:17 AM > Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6 > > >> The first illegal ON-VX QSO. >> >> >> >> Rik Strobbe wrote: >>> Gary, All, >>> >>> yesterday I could copy VX9MRC in QRSS3 with a surprising strong >>> signal as early as 18 UTC, when I launched Argo. >>> Throughout the evening the signal was strong and with little QSB >>> from 19-22UTC, after that the signal became weaker with much more QSB. >>> Probably because I had a sked with Joe at 22:40 UTC ;-) . >>> But despite all we managed to complete the QSO with both way M >>> report (would have been a solid O earlier the evening). >>> A first ON-VE QSO on 500kHz and with +/- 4075km a new DX record for me >>> Joe transmitted on 507.770 and I on 501.190. >>> Between 19 and 22 UTC the signal was audible most of the time and >>> would have been CW copy if it were not squeezed between the NDB "Z" >>> carrier at 507.980 (S9+ here) the SM6BHZ CW/SSB test transmissions >>> (up to S9) and a local birdie on 507.600. >>> >>> For the QSO I was running 300W into my 11m high / 25m long lazy-L >>> antenna, estimated ERP about 1.5 Watt (at best, if the greenery does >>> not absorb too much) >>> >>> The night from Sunday - Monday I left Argo running, VX9MRC produced >>> a good signal all through the night and faded out at 07UTC. This >>> would mean that there is a potential transatlantic path on 500kHz >>> for 13h a day !!! >>> >>> 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >>> >>> At 17:05 16/11/2009, you wrote: >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> Good signals from both stations last night. >>>> >>>> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo. >>> >>> >>> >> > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (rly-dc09.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.38]) by air-dc09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC093-b424b0194c036b; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:07:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC096-b424b0194c036b; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:07:14 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA5vm-00076g-Uy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:04:02 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA5vj-00076H-86 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:04:00 +0000 Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA5ve-00015R-Dm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:03:55 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.4]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091116175843.WQVE27507.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:58:43 +0000 Received: from [81.109.247.175] (helo=jimdesk) by know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA5qd-00061i-1N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:58:43 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:58:40 -0000 Message-ID: <013601ca66e6$6f01a350$0517aac0@jimdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: Acpm5m3SHzpox8kKQe2PU52HmguBJQ== X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=qq8CF84x6uRvSzY4yGcA:9 a=-zPIV9XzygvTNtZIyGSIEQr6MWwA:4 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=U6kXwFPHs4vJhkgam_sA:9 a=o0vLClQI4Y3z3jG9vZ8A:7 a=hgyX0R0Zd-BADXDpu5VL7W60Pu0A:4 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: thats the way to do it! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0137_01CA66E6.6F01A350" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_FONT_BIG, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0137_01CA66E6.6F01A350 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear LF At a stroke, side bands gone, 25watts found, sigs increased! I'd like to say I planned it that way but sister Serendipity was on my side! I just moved the impedance matching transformer from in the shack to the base of the coil and re-adjusted the taps on both. IC735 now happily firing 50watts out as opposed to 25 watts and it seems that the dreaded side bands are gone. Let's see if it stays that way. With best regards Jim G7NKS Dr. James Cowburn ------=_NextPart_000_0137_01CA66E6.6F01A350 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear LF

 

At a stroke, side bands gone, 25watts= found, sigs increased!  I’d like to say I planned it that way but sister Serendipi= ty was on my side!

 

I just moved the impedance matching tra= nsformer from in the shack to the base of the coil and re-adjusted the taps on both.  =  IC735 now happily firing 50watts out as opposed to 25 watts and it seems that th= e dreaded side bands are gone.  Let’s see if it stays that way.<= /o:p>

 

 

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim= G7NKS

 

 

Dr. James Cowburn

 

------=_NextPart_000_0137_01CA66E6.6F01A350-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md04.mx.aol.com (rly-md04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.142]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD084-8ff4b0282301e7; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 06:00:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD047-8ff4b0282301e7; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 06:00:01 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NALmF-0002BR-NN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:59:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NALmF-0002BI-5U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:59:15 +0000 Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com ([205.188.105.144]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NALmE-0006o2-0C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:59:15 +0000 Received: from imo-da04.mx.aol.com (imo-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.202]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nAHAx0A2026332 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:59:00 -0500 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-da04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id l.ce9.659f5cbe (65098) for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:58:55 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:59:08 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: F4DTL@aol.com X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: 136kHz WSPR tests Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1258455548" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1258455548 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 No problem Roger, i can so start my WSPR beacon on 136 kHz at the same =20 time. =20 =20 F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 17/11/2009 11:44:20 Paris, Madrid, =20 rogerlapthorn@gmail.com a =E9crit : Dear all, Very encouraged by my results at 500kHz, I'd like to try some "low ERP"= =20 WSPR tests on 136kHz using the same small antenna and transverter (slight= ly=20 modified). Ideally I'd need stations like M0BMU, M0FMT, G7NKS and others= =20 not too far away from JO02dg to TX and to listen out for me, as these=20 stations get a good signal from me on 500kHz.=20 Please would you let me know if you'd be able to listen and upload 136kHz= =20 WSPR spots sometime in the next week or so? As yet I am not quite ready= to=20 start, but I'll let you know when I am. BTW, congratulations to the bigger stations on 500kHz achieving=20 transatlantic QSOs. 73s Roger G3XBM -------------------------------1258455548 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= FONT id=3Drole_document color=3D#000000 size=3D2 face=3DArial>
No problem Roger, i can so start my WSPR beacon on 136 kHz at the sam= e=20 time.
 
F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP
Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 17/11/2009 11:44:20 Paris, Madrid,=20 rogerlapthorn@gmail.com a =E9crit :
D= ear=20 all,

Very encouraged by my results at 500kHz, I'd like to try som= e "low=20 ERP" WSPR tests on 136kHz using the same small antenna and transverter= =20 (slightly modified).  Ideally I'd need stations like M0BMU, M0FMT,= G7NKS=20 and others not too far away from JO02dg to TX and to listen out for me,= as=20 these stations get a good signal from me on 500kHz.

Please wo= uld=20 you let me know if you'd be able to listen and upload 136kHz WSPR spots= =20 sometime in the next week or so? As yet I am not quite ready to star= t, but=20 I'll let you know when I am.

BTW, congratulations to the bigger= =20 stations on 500kHz achieving transatlantic QSOs.

73s
Roger G3X= BM
 
 
 -------------------------------1258455548-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (rly-mf08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.178]) by air-mf07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF074-9764b06eafa42; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:16:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF084-9764b06eafa42; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:16:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBYwq-0000rk-UE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:15:12 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBYwq-0000rb-Eo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:15:12 +0000 Received: from mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.47]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBYwp-0003zQ-KO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:15:12 +0000 Received: from aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091120191005.MSLP17029.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:10:05 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.33] (really [82.22.242.219]) by aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20091120191004.NJCT2093.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.2.33]> for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:10:04 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:09:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4B06E983.17403.9CA1196@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=9YlaCzn6_68A:10 a=MVCgQRZCOfM_H2McCekA:9 a=XnNn1aRmoxARAjt3JVwemSyS2D8A:4 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Tests concluded Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 I have finished testing on 136kHz for tonight. Mike, G3XDV ========== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb01.mx.aol.com (rly-mb01.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.154]) by air-mb08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB081-ce94afddc0d2f1; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:22:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB015-ce94afddc0d2f1; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:22:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N94WA-0005yc-48 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:21:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N94W9-0005yT-MY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:21:21 +0000 Received: from mx71.mail.ru ([94.100.176.85]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N94W8-0001QQ-NB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:21:21 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=12483 helo=EFREMOV) by mx71.mail.ru with asmtp id 1N94W2-000FtL-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 01:21:14 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <006401ca64af$954964f0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: References: <004001ca646a$c6ec0cf0$3ab27cbc@niurhaxf0xcqlj> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:20:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: sp2kds Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005D_01CA64AF.80AAC4D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk 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[212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:03:08 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4B07ABA4.4060102@online.fr> References: <4B07ABA4.4060102@online.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Nov 2009 10:03:08.0913 (UTC) FILETIME=[D3C42610:01CA6A91] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_3425993b-530e-4221-9881-484a98ad633f_" Subject: LF: T/A [137 kHz] good conditions ! X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --_3425993b-530e-4221-9881-484a98ad633f_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_082c3af3-883d-4908-a88e-f120016ef3e4_" --_082c3af3-883d-4908-a88e-f120016ef3e4_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Jean-Pierre, LF! SRI, I didn´t listen to a radio last night, but I was looking at my monitor this morning: I saw "Y" (QRSS and than DFCW) and strong LX effect between 05:30 - 05:45UT. I didn´t see XKO. 73! Lubos, OK2BVG ****************************** > Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:58:12 +0100 > From: jpm.f1afj@online.fr > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: LF T/A [137 kHz] good conditions ! > > Hello LF, > > Good conditions last night on 137 Khz ! > Yesterday evening : > "Y" (RA3YO) dfcw60 > "KDS" (????) qrss120 > "XKO" (WD2XKO) qrss 30 > > This Morning : > XKO (WD2XKO) qrss60 > > Dex, pse look on my grabber , your sig are vy strong ! > Thank you to be returned on 137 Khz ! > > 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj > > _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: Který poèítaè je pro vás ten pravý? Dal¹í informace. http://windows.microsoft.com/shop --_082c3af3-883d-4908-a88e-f120016ef3e4_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Jean-Pierre, LF!
SRI, I didn´t listen to a radio last night, but I was looking at my monitor this morning:
I saw "Y" (QRSS and than DFCW) and strong LX effect between 05:30 - 05:45UT.
I didn´t see XKO.

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG

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> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:58:12 +0100
> From: jpm.f1afj@online.fr
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: LF T/A [137 kHz] good conditions !
>
> Hello LF,
>
> Good conditions last night on 137 Khz !
> Yesterday evening :
> "Y" (RA3YO) dfcw60
> "KDS" (????) qrss120
> "XKO" (WD2XKO) qrss 30
>
> This Morning :
> XKO (WD2XKO) qrss60
>
> Dex, pse look on my grabber , your sig are vy strong !
> Thank you to be returned on 137 Khz !
>
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
>

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00:30:34 +0000 Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com ([205.188.105.143]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N96XB-00025G-FY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:30:34 +0000 Received: from imo-da04.mx.aol.com (imo-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.202]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nAE0UKeX002849 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:30:20 -0500 Received: from G4gvw@aol.com by imo-da04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id l.c2f.5d6d9c78 (34979) for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:30:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.68] ([92.23.134.203]) by cia-da08.mx.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA084-88a34afdfa0e227; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:30:14 -0500 From: g4gvw To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <00df01ca6488$e9244a80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <00df01ca6488$e9244a80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:30:09 +0000 Message-Id: <1258158609.4671.18.camel@pat-compaq-evo> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.1 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: G4gvw@aol.com X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: PIRATES Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Mal, I have been extremely successful of late in not rising to your bait on various topics. This time I really must take umbrage at your rather sweeping statement about the Maritime Service vis-a-vis the 500khz allocation. The maritime Service has been almost 100% a "commercial" service and as such has had as its primary interest the maintenance of a viable communications service. As far as I am aware. no serious research has been done by that service into weak-signal and similar modes apart from that done by the various military interests. Effectively, as soon as alternative and arguably more efficient/cost effective alternatives became available these commercial interests naturally migrated to them. This is not the same as saying they had "exhausted all possibilities and concluded it is of no further use." Your statement is rather like saying that the coming of the motor car rendered the bicycle or the horse obsolete and of "no further use"! It's a funny thing but in my travels I see plenty of both in widespread use! Amateur radio for many of us encompasses a wide range of activities and your constant carping and promotion of your own rather biased interests gets on the nerves of quite a lot of us to the extent that some members no longer subscribe to the group. Perhaps you should consider the view that, as with the cyclists and horse riders there are modes of operation that lead to the promotion of health and happiness and a calm and healthy state of mind. On Fri, 2009-11-13 at 17:44 +0000, mal hamilton wrote: > Lots of pirates reported around the east african coast and Indian > ocean but now Radio pirates !!!! on 500. > How would one know a Pirate? their style of sending on cw or the way > they WSPR. > Beware of the WSPR merchants no ID just carriers switching on/off as > far as the casual radio amateur is concerned. Instead of a simple > approach worldwide to issue Radio Amateur licences for the > traditional CW mode on 500, appliance operator licences were issued > for Broadcast modes ie > CW beacons, Data beacons, and other transmissions, which must stop at > Country Borders and must not be reported by anyone hearing such > transmissions beyond these Borders. > In other words the whole 500 khz business is Chaotic, whereas the > other MF allocation 160 metres is orderly and sensibly regulated using > in the main CW and SSB. > It would appear the appropriate license authorities do not think the > Appliance Operator has much to contribute to the advancement or > research on 500. > The marine service has been using the band for the past 100 years and > has exhausted all possibilities and concluded it is of no further use, > with the advancement of Satellite communications technology. > 500 in EU seems to be a fun band for WSPR Beacons where no operator > participation is required just unattended machines belching out bits > of data and generating QRM to the few Radio amateurs trying to get by > on CW. > Let us have your opinion. > De G3KEV > > > > -- 73 es gd dx de pat g4gvw qth nr felixstowe uk (east coast, county of suffolk) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (rly-dg10.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.94]) by air-dg08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG083-5fc4b08289341; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:51:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG107-5fc4b08289341; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:51:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBu6K-0007Qx-6x for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:50:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBu6J-0007Qo-Sb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:50:23 +0000 Received: from smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com ([195.200.78.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBu6J-000128-Aj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:50:23 +0000 Received: (qmail 26682 invoked by uid 507); 21 Nov 2009 18:50:04 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO JR) (217.67.155.178) by smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 2009 18:50:04 +0100 Message-ID: <200911211850130243.1B5FEB19@smtp2.numeo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:50:13 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Tail end of XGV? 20dB over noise on 137 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 At 1745z. F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb12.mx.aol.com (rly-mb12.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.170]) by air-mb05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB052-d444afd1296288; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:02:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB128-d444afd1296288; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:02:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8r65-0001AA-M4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:01:33 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8r65-0001A1-3j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:01:33 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8r63-0002MT-Jl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:01:33 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.4] (rx1.twatt.home [192.168.1.4]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0BE53B4D8 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:01:30 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4AFD125A.3060402@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:01:30 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <2EB9AB3966984B91BB0C369B32CF12FC@AGB> <4AFCC936.9060800@telus.net> In-Reply-To: <4AFCC936.9060800@telus.net> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Scott Tilley wrote: > Hi Graham > > All Canadian 600m stations are operating under COMMERCIAL Developmental > Licenses and are not able to communicate with the Amateur Service. So VX9MRC shouldn't be having regular CW QSOs with EI0CF? Still confused.... John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de08.mx.aol.com (rly-de08.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.144]) by air-de01.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDE011-4f94b1293fb33b; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:32:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE088-4f94b1293fb33b; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:32:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NElkG-0001Zb-86 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:31:28 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NElkF-0001ZR-Mf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:31:27 +0000 Received: from n17.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.144]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NElkF-000384-A5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:31:27 +0000 Received: from [68.142.194.243] by n17.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2009 15:31:20 -0000 Received: from [68.142.201.246] by t1.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2009 15:31:20 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp407.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2009 15:31:20 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 465725.47750.bm@omp407.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 17276 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2009 15:31:20 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=P1uR4RfymXIWNLMDx1DgIKQ0WNWEiPGYjqYoD8/pvbC97kbRzFrVP+TzhZVE5fvTHAi3cb9w+jkmQkyYX9wy9/nPw9I3rps1WSziwUjKBRIhcPznX+oljpoAyDG1Qmd5pICtCuBPqHLitbUmB/2yCNF64caWNiai7X0SWAkNX+Q= ; Received: from host86-138-92-60.range86-138.btcentralplus.com (ken.h.wright@86.138.92.60 with login) by smtp129.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2009 07:31:20 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: 9Y6mUHuswBAgnrOsukIiNdFDf95uy_Dz34nY1hlg2liKgYD952sjbg-- X-YMail-OSG: lyrzOlQVM1nRyWjKrZHuD87wZoTfKoOxg_b6vKQL6w_Owll7gua9_r1m7_GiQEjJ1YesJKMLN5ftzYYTnBcNU67HcFas10MII_pNmqqJTJgmkJCp3vRGbAVQYXJvS5qfyMfF6JFw9Wg_kFgLCgLvRgIrVPJLtHCSQ17aWds7XrYl01utL7cNU4lm.gui5qx_UxBomC_X6XoQKJP23ZGT.zmljTFD1t0npKBmq.TRK7X4XJvnlf76IotW0SATE.8.O5KnHJL6T7SOMuL65hp6uz82HgRgA5gZk0u5r7rQNnWrvpYH3B5IMihk7RRxEw-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "Ken" To: References: <2746F3E144D3480AB85CD466920B1313@lindavideo> <003001ca70e7$24aaf3a0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <003c01ca70eb$0aa52120$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <4B126AF9.3050300@ntlworld.com> <005001ca70f9$f63904e0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <1259505915.4b1288fb018a7@imp.netikka.net> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:31:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv diode Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Paul. On my last mailing I got the BY255 current wrong. Ken M0KHW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul-Henrik" To: Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 2:45 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv diode BY255 should be a suitable building block rated 1300V PIV 3A. Use equalizing resistors in parallell with each diode, typical values used are 470...820kohm. Only controlled avalanche diodes can be series connected safely without a reverse voltage equalizing network. Make sure you implement a healthy safety marigin, ie. don't use just as many diodes needed to acheive the needed voltage rating. Using 3 amp diodes when 1 amp is called for is no luxury either. You don't want to hear the sound of an angry rattlesnake from your thunderbox... this sound is often followed by popping and oozing electrolytic capacitors. Good luck and please don't get zapped Paul-Henrik Quoting mal hamilton : > Yes series for more V parallel for more I(amps) and preferable some R and > C > across each except they are really identical. > mal/g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: David Towers > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 12:37 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv diode > > > Hi Mal > surely "in series" to give a 4 KV diode at 1amp ? > dave G8SZX > > > > mal hamilton wrote: > Ken > On the serious side, use 6 x 1Kvolt @ 1A in parallel if u are stuck. > Don't get zapped > 73 mal/g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: mal hamilton > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:28 AM > Subject: LF: Re: 4kv diode > > > Electric Chair Co > Zapenda Cul de sac > Hellda State > Zip73 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ken > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:04 AM > Subject: LF: 4kv diode > > > Hello All. > I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or equivalent diode, BY4 4kv @ 1A, > BY6 6kv @ 1A, I have searched the web and looked in Farnell, any ideas > please. > > 73. > Ken > > M0KHW > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (rly-ma06.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.50]) by air-ma06.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMA064-8b24b11050f3e1; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 06:10:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA064-8b24b11050f3e1; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 06:10:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NELAp-0003Yc-61 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:09:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NELAo-0003YT-9l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:09:06 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NELAl-0006YU-TD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:09:06 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KTT00EFMGAP0A@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 12:08:50 +0100 (MET) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 12:08:11 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <5873AFCB97E54DBA84770A417D6BF62A@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: WPF 27-11.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_y8RUm06UodDH+9VLNhxs0g)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --Boundary_(ID_y8RUm06UodDH+9VLNhxs0g) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_q/Acg9CrLoQ2Aux9k1BzpQ)" --Boundary_(ID_q/Acg9CrLoQ2Aux9k1BzpQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi LF, capture ua4wpf henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: WPF 27-11.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m250.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --00032555666ed8a8a00478a9c827 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 If only. 2009/11/18 Graham > 2009-11-18 17:48 T61AA 0.503929 -13 1 MM36nq 10 S51CN > JN65tm 4503 300 > > Now thats something you dont normally see ! > > G .. > > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --00032555666ed8a8a00478a9c827 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 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2009/11/18 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.u= k>
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--00032555666ed8a8a00478a9c827-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df02.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDF024-5804b12dcc13c6; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:43:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF103-5804b12dcc13c6; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:42:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEqaY-0003u9-61 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:41:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEqaX-0003u0-Jg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:41:45 +0000 Received: from mail-pw0-f45.google.com ([209.85.160.45]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEqaW-0004bl-3z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:41:45 +0000 Received: by pwi15 with SMTP id 15so1817081pwi.4 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:41:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=JN+BnGV/daO2CVcZdVKdXjiTvXd+bBEMGweX8VYtb2g=; b=bIfxgvofrVC/zzW/rQzCFpi1CmnAbN7UBRCN8VIt3Dg8rqdZqN6rZe2IE+52etoXuR aVFVS9Q/uTFF+h88am18uf19rrpAtI8rM5Rw2uwgkEpT5DObqp5xy/9pmmZyL+cvWTYx hkBlK3Bb8/kDCEDj0mve4SSbLU40TdYn+TuU4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ppIw2Whp1KTF3Jfa044gnNU7Oi7rW1ALxcMUepKn+PTCu2UXj9p5o+xUxkY2H6/6s7 GbJhydPGpqohZvOhrtx7iT7efAGMp4TPzo6Gq5cLNJQVhuo7706TD6+2yqJ4Bb1UuhKN WegmGWo01GFr/3i89SqdzngIsMUiNsX7EN3VY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.19.11 with SMTP id w11mr192734rvi.66.1259527296800; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:41:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091129210647.u9ui1m1o4ws0804k@webmail6.kuleuven.be> References: <010c01ca7116$59615290$0317aac0@desktop> <843259.12319.qm@web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <9afca2640911291111v14a515dfy706294277775b7fa@mail.gmail.com> <20091129210647.u9ui1m1o4ws0804k@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:41:36 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9c36d47bbaf0651b Message-ID: <1f0624b90911291241v7cfb90e8v6f833b0dbc563558@mail.gmail.com> From: Gary - G4WGT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UPPERCASE_50_75=0.591 Subject: Re: LF: RTTY test transmission on 501.5 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd1537c1c59d80479888d49 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, UPPERCASE_50_75 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m242.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0cd1537c1c59d80479888d49 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rik, LF, Thanks for the report. 73 Gary - G4WGT 2009/11/29 Rik Strobbe > I can copy now G4WGT and G0NBD in PSK31 > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > > Quoting Roger Lapthorn : > > G3XIZ is a good signal calling G0NBD on 501.6kHz RTTY. Not yet heard >> M0FMT. >> >> 73s >> Roger G3XBM >> >> >> 2009/11/29 M0FMT > >> >> Jim FYI >> >> G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEACO >> <091129 18:35:55 Start Logging> >> N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.= C >> OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS >> >> G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEACO >> N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.= C >> OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS >> >> G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEACO >> N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.= C >> OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS >> >> G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEACO >> N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.= C >> OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS >> >> AIG7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEA= CO >> N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.= C >> OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS >> >> G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEACO >> N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.= C >> OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS >> >> G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEACO >> N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.= C >> OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS >> >> G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEACO >> N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.= C >> OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS >> >> 73 petefmt >> >> --- On Sun, 29/11/09, James Cowburn > james.cowburn@virgin.net>> wrote: >> >> From: James Cowburn > james.cowburn@virgin.net>> >> >> Subject: LF: RTTY test transmission on 501.5 >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> >> Date: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 17:06 >> >> >> Dear LF >> >> I am running a test RTTY transmission on 501.5 (I hope!!) It transmit= s >> for abt 1 min every 10 mins. >> >> I=92d be grateful for any reports. I will shut it down at 20.00z or = before >> if necessary >> >> 73s >> >> Jim G7NKS >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ >> http://www.g3xbm.co.uk >> G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 >> >> > > > --000e0cd1537c1c59d80479888d49 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rik, LF,

Thanks for the report.

73

Hi Mal

 

137 is my next= project though I am not really Dx from you.  If I get a Tx set up I’ll let you know= for a CW QSO or two

 

With best regards=

 

 

Jim

 Subject: LF= : 137 DX

 

LF GRP

Is there enought acty on this band to= justify the effort of getting started.

Years ago there was over 30 countries= active on cw on the band. I have 1w erp available and would like to work some dx

de mal/g3kev

 


Gary - G4WGT


2009/11/29 Rik Strobbe <= Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be= >
I can copy now G4WGT and G0NBD in PSK31
73, Rik =A0ON7YD - OR7T


Quoting Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>:

G3XIZ is a good signal calling G0NBD on 501.6kHz RTTY. Not yet heard M0FMT= .

73s
Roger G3XBM


2009/11/29 M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>>

Jim FYI

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N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C
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73 petefmt

--- On Sun, 29/11/09, James Cowburn =A0<james.cowburn@virgin.net<mailto:james.cowburn@= virgin.net>> wrote:

From: James Cowburn =A0<james.cowburn@virgin.net<mailto:james.cowburn@virgin.net>= >

Subject: LF: RTTY test transmission on 501.5
To: rsgb= _lf_group@blacksheep.org<mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>

Date: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 17:06


Dear LF

I am running a test RTTY transmission on 501.5 (I hope!!) =A0It =A0transmi= ts for abt 1 min every 10 mins.

I=92d be grateful for any reports. =A0I will shut it down at 20.00z or =A0= before if necessary

73s

Jim G7NKS





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--000e0cd1537c1c59d80479888d49-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v125.8) with ESMTP id MAILINMG033-a1c4afc79b64b; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:10:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG066-a1c4afc79b64b; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:10:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8gun-0007c5-DR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:09:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8gum-0007bw-Ph for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:09:12 +0000 Received: from out1.ip05ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.241]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8gum-0000Zm-3n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:09:12 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhAFAHcI/EpOlsBc/2dsb2JhbACCKCuBaoUPhE4Gz1SEPAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,731,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="80128332" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.192.92]) by out1.ip05ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 12 Nov 2009 21:09:02 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01ca63dc$5fc0b460$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:09:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: dx Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA63DC.5F57E070" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA63DC.5F57E070 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyone QRV for DX tonite de mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA63DC.5F57E070 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA63DC.5F57E070-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg07.mx.aol.com (rly-dg07.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.91]) by air-dg02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG024-5d94b06c4e3128; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:33:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG072-5d94b06c4e3128; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:33:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBWPW-0007Vk-Ho for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:32:38 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBWPW-0007Vb-5R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:32:38 +0000 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBWPU-0002lJ-KJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:32:38 +0000 Received: from aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091120163221.BQCD17277.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:32:21 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.33] (really [82.22.242.219]) by aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20091120163220.GKIU21638.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.2.33]> for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:32:20 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:32:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4B06C48F.27981.939B9FD@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=9YlaCzn6_68A:10 a=SJhhbR5tmHD68AHkckwA:9 a=paq3kGAiNn0KKowkmybbe0j5IHIA:4 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Test transmissions Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 After a major refurbishment of my lounge/office/shack, I have finally rebuilt my 136kHz station. To check reliability of the Tx at low speeds, I am transmitting using QRSS30 on 137.776kHz this evening (Friday). Please email if I am causing QRM to anyone listening for DX. I will switch off at around 2230UTC. Mike, G3XDV ========= From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me07.mx.aol.com (rly-me07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.41]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINME034-9cc4b143570177; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:13:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME078-9cc4b143570177; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:13:22 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NFDXs-0000KI-PL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:12:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NFDXs-0000K9-DF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:12:32 +0000 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NFDXr-0005Ua-Ci for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:12:32 +0000 Received: from aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091130210725.FKVU17277.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:07:25 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.33] (really [82.22.242.219]) by aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20091130210725.LDES13254.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.2.33]> for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:07:25 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:07:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4B14340A.19336.294139D@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> In-reply-to: <622008509.1259614024.60767016.44464@mcgi69.rambler.ru> References: <4B140806.10012.1E82610@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com>, <622008509.1259614024.60767016.44464@mcgi69.rambler.ru> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=W3tOLUehizD4qj6VhtReFuw5MKb8d+XqjIxlDsIazEA= c=1 sm=0 a=9YlaCzn6_68A:10 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=XQwWSD3EEZ8V_w1dYrMA:9 a=rL2MIsFdmlzHd2TDZHqMn8H6l30A:4 a=_dQi-Dcv4p4A:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: DX test 136.318kHz Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Roman, Thanks but I get an error message on that web address. Mike ==== > Hi Mike! > Started my grabber on for the night overview. > qrss.nm.ru > > * Mike Dennison [Mon, 30 Nov 2009 > 17:59:34 -0000]: > I will be transmitting "XDV" overnight (1800 - 0900 > UTC) tonight > using QRSS60 on 136.3180kHz. DX reports are welcome. > > > Mike. G3XDV > ========== > > > > -- > Roman RW3ADB. > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (rly-dc09.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.38]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC013-b3f4b03ce1513f; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:36:18 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC093-b3f4b03ce1513f; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:36:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAhsV-0001b4-Ij for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:35:11 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAhsV-0001av-3x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:35:11 +0000 Received: from out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.239]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAhsT-00088e-7J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:35:11 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgsFAKNcA0tZ8PBN/2dsb2JhbACCIi6LKQbHIYQ7BA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,764,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="99333611" Received: from unknown (HELO your91hoehfy9g) ([89.240.240.77]) by out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 18 Nov 2009 10:35:01 +0000 Message-ID: <001101ca683a$c95170b0$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:35:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: MF condx Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01CA683A.C8F93E90" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01CA683A.C8F93E90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Excellent condx last nite worldwide, although I have hrd even better= at times. Stns on 500 from across the pond solid unfortunately not in QSO mode= but did hear one VE2 stn calling CQ on 505 but no qsx freq to reply. also 160 m in great shape with lots of W and VE acty plus others beyon= d. One problem for dx reception is a SM ssb stn S9 here swamping the W/VE= stns around 507 kcs, has anyone else heard his SM stn? de G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01CA683A.C8F93E90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Excellent condx last nite worldwide,= although I=20 have hrd even better at times.
Stns on 500 from across the pond soli= d=20 unfortunately not in QSO mode but did hear one VE2 stn calling CQ on= =20 505 but no qsx freq to reply.
also 160 m in great shape with lots= of W and VE=20 acty plus others beyond.
One problem for dx reception is a SM= ssb stn S9=20 here swamping the W/VE stns around 507 kcs, has anyone else heard his= SM=20 stn?
 
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------=_NextPart_000_000E_01CA683A.C8F93E90-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME082-9aa4af6ae7b1ba; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:42:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME036-9aa4af6ae7b1ba; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:41:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N768g-0005YV-M5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:40:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N768g-0005YM-97 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:40:58 +0000 Received: from out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.239]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N767h-00088z-PN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:39:58 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqIEAKw89kpOlLtr/2dsb2JhbACEOdRQhD4E X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,703,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="76481470" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.187.107]) by out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 08 Nov 2009 11:40:51 +0000 Message-ID: <01cd01ca6068$54f09a40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <019f01ca6061$34a80040$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20091108120711.z1zbaakm0cw0cocg@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:40:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Rik Hitting stones requires skill but the CLICK is a LAZY MAN making fire G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe" To: Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 11:07 AM Subject: Re: LF: WSPR > Mal, > > assuming you are a man with a lot of humor here another witticism: > > Using CW is like living in a cave and making fire by hitting stones. > Using WSPR is like living in a modern house and making fire by one > click on the gass stove. > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > (using CW as well as WSPR) > > > Quoting mal hamilton : > >> WSPR is like a LAZY MAN using a WALKING STICK !!!!!! >> G3KEV >> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.55/2489 - Release Date: 11/08/09 07:37:00 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db05.mx.aol.com (rly-db05.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.80]) by air-db07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB072-ac94b0aa9fa336; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:28:28 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB057-ac94b0aa9fa336; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:27:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCaon-00015r-05 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:27:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCaom-00015i-Ko for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:27:08 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCaol-0003PR-SB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:27:08 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KTK005YFIWZIZ@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:26:59 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:26:43 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <47EFA9A73EC8426F91E9F55A8C062820@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: YO 23-11.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_5EWMCUz2M3zsiwmQS8ut4w)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --Boundary_(ID_5EWMCUz2M3zsiwmQS8ut4w) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_4yCIh0qNBk2UhBs1U4HJ8Q)" --Boundary_(ID_4yCIh0qNBk2UhBs1U4HJ8Q) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi LF capture YO Henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: YO 23-11.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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Hi LF
capture YO
Henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
YO 23-11.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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ArcFAKgMDUtcHETu/2dsb2JhbACCJiuLPgbIEIQyBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,287,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="247557921" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.28.68.238]) by out1.ip09ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 25 Nov 2009 18:57:59 +0000 Message-ID: <003e01ca6e01$3384e310$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <003201ca6dff$3d5020f0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:57:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: mf acty Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01CA6E01.3333DCE0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01CA6E01.3333DCE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable PS SM6BGP also about at present ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 6:43 PM Subject: LF: mf acty EI6IZ now active on 500. Good sig in Scarboro 579. Just had a CW QSO= . de mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01CA6E01.3333DCE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
PS
SM6BGP also about at present
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mal=20 hamilton
To: rsgb
Sent: Wednesday, November 25,= 2009 6:43=20 PM
Subject: LF: mf acty

EI6IZ now active on 500. Good sig= in Scarboro=20 579. Just had a CW QSO.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_003B_01CA6E01.3333DCE0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD042-8f74af21df42d7; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:36:26 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD037-8f74af21df42d7; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:36:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N5qJR-0008Kx-P3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:34:53 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N5qJR-0008Ko-Dy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:34:53 +0000 Received: from mx40.mail.ru ([94.100.176.54]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N5qIA-000722-9n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:33:35 +0000 Received: from [94.75.141.77] (port=61068 helo=[192.168.1.4]) by mx40.mail.ru with asmtp id 1N5qJJ-000FVM-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 03:34:45 +0300 Message-ID: <4AF21D96.3080506@mail.ru> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 03:34:30 +0300 From: Dmitry User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 SeaMonkey/1.1.18 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C6EE3534@exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net> In-Reply-To: <254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C6EE3534@exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net> X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: AW: Re: LF: Who on +/-137.710KHz Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090808050404090205090709" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------090808050404090205090709 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi LF! 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boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001D_01CA5C67.B3499010" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01CA5C67.B3499010 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, Does anybody know if the Hell software is still available and, if so,= where from, please? 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Hi All,
Does anybody know if the Hell softwar= e is still=20 available and, if so, where from, please?
Thank you and 73,
Chris, G4AYT.
------=_NextPart_000_001D_01CA5C67.B3499010-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA044-8c44afc8d7b297; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:34:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA086-8c44afc8d7b297; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:34:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8iEG-0008IM-Ss for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:33:24 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8iEG-0008ID-3t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:33:24 +0000 Received: from smtp6.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.192]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8iEE-0008N4-Bt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:33:24 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3623.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id CCA5C7000085 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:33:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3623.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BCE487000087 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:33:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.8.173]) by mwinf3623.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 5B8CF7000085 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:33:14 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091112223314375.5B8CF7000085@mwinf3623.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <563642.98089.qm@web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <563642.98089.qm@web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:33:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_010A_01CA63E8.190682A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_010A_01CA63E8.190682A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Peter, I'm reading that .. but what am I reading ..is it yes or no ? G..=20 From: M0FMT=20 Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:55 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amatur= e stations ?? Just more boring old Beacon stations claging up MF.....look on= RAC web site... http://www.rac.ca/ ........ 2008-11-10 Canadian Amateurs on 600 Metres Industry Canada has accepted an= RAC proposal whereby selected Canadian radio amateurs would be permit= ted to operate in the vicinity of 500 kHz. These amateur operations wo= uld support Canada's efforts to action a proposal on the agenda of the= 2011 World Radio Conference (WRC2011) which, if adopted, would create= an amateur allocation in the 600-meter band. Industry Canada have aut= horized RAC to recommend amateurs who would be licensed to operate in= the 504 to 509 kHz band with a maximum power of 20 watts ERP and band= width up to 1 kHz. Stations operating in this band would be technicall= y operating under Special Developmental Licenses although they would= all be radio amateurs. Distinct call signs would be used and the lice= nses would be renewable annually subject to the amateur demonstrating= the research he has carried out. More information will follow shortly= in the pages of TCA or via subsequent bulletins. Bryan Rawlings VE3QN= /VE2QNN Radio Amateurs of/du Canada, Inc.=20 73 petefmt --- On Thu, 12/11/09, Graham wrote: From: Graham Subject: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other am= ature stations ?? To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 21:43 Can anyone clarify the situation as to who can work who=20 is this the same as the USA ?=20 Tnx - G .. =20 From the IARU web site=20 As of 30 October 2009 Canada issued two licences in the Develo= pmental Service in the range 504-509 kHz. a.. VE1ZZ has been assigned VX9PSO and is reported on 504.6= kHz=20 b.. VO1NA has been assigned VX9MRC and is reported on 507.77= and 508.5 kHz Two more stations, VE3OHH and VE7BDQ, are expected to become= active soon.=20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_010A_01CA63E8.190682A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Peter,
 
I'm reading that .. but  what am= I reading=20 ..is it  yes or no ?
 
G..

Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with= other=20 amature stations ??

Just more boring old Beacon stations claging up MF.....look= on RAC=20 web site... http://www.rac.ca/ =20 ........
 

2008-11-10

Canadian Amateurs on 600 Metres Industry Canada has accepte= d an RAC=20 proposal whereby selected Canadian radio amateurs would be permi= tted to=20 operate in the vicinity of 500 kHz. These amateur operations wou= ld support=20 Canada's efforts to action a proposal on the agenda of the 2011= World=20 Radio Conference (WRC2011) which, if adopted, would create an am= ateur=20 allocation in the 600-meter band. Industry Canada have authorize= d RAC to=20 recommend amateurs who would be licensed to operate in the 504= to 509 kHz=20 band with a maximum power of 20 watts ERP and bandwidth up to 1= kHz.=20 Stations operating in this band would be technically operating= under=20 Special Developmental Licenses although they would all be radio= amateurs.=20 Distinct call signs would be used and the licenses would be rene= wable=20 annually subject to the amateur demonstrating the research he ha= s carried=20 out. More information will follow shortly in the pages of TCA or= via=20 subsequent bulletins. Bryan Rawlings VE3QN/VE2QNN Radio Amateurs= of/du=20 Canada, Inc.
 
 
73 petefmt

--- On Thu, 12/11/09, Graham=20 <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

From:=20 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Subject: LF: Are the= new VE=20 stations able to qso with other amature stations ??
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Thursday, 12 November,= 2009,=20 21:43

Can anyone clarify the  situatio= n as=20 to  who can work who
is this the  same as the = USA=20 ? 
=  
Tnx - G ..   
From the  IARU  web= site=20
As of 30 October 2009 Canada issued two licences in the= =20 Developmental Service in the range 504-509 kHz.
  • VE1ZZ has been assigned VX9PSO and is reported on 504.6= kHz=20
  • VO1NA has been assigned VX9MRC and is reported on 507.77= and 508.5=20 kHz
Two more stations, VE3OHH and VE7BDQ, are expected= to become=20 active soon.=20





------=_NextPart_000_010A_01CA63E8.190682A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDB052-adb4b14203f145; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:43:17 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB081-adb4b14203f145; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:42:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NFC8D-0008JT-JV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:41:57 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NFC8D-0008JK-3U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:41:57 +0000 Received: from warsl404pip6.highway.telekom.at ([195.3.96.89] helo=email.aon.at) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NFC8B-0004x6-PZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:41:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 3061 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2009 19:41:49 -0000 Received: from 91-115-29-238.adsl.highway.telekom.at (HELO [192.168.1.101]) ([91.115.29.238]) (envelope-sender ) by smarthub95.highway.telekom.at (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 30 Nov 2009 19:41:49 -0000 From: Gerhard Hickl To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <000501ca71e8$d925b980$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> References: <1259600322.2708.33.camel@gerhard-desktop> <000501ca71e8$d925b980$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> Disposition-Notification-To: gerhard.hickl@aon.at Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:41:47 +0100 Message-ID: <1259610107.4914.11.camel@gerhard-desktop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.1 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Testtransmission 137,685 OE3GHB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Mal! Thank you very much for your report. I'm glad to heard that I made it over to you. I'm a LF beginner and let me use this opportunity to thank Ossi, OE5ODL. He helped a lot with tips and hints regarding antenna design, as well as hardware. The transistor I'm using in this TX was provided by him. I'm sure there are a lot of problems you can run into without a "guiding hand" aside. The QSB is probably caused partially by the storm we are having here. Gust up to 50mph. Thank you for your report and 73 OE3GHB Gerhard Am Montag, den 30.11.2009, 18:13 +0000 schrieb mal hamilton: > Gerhard > Ur sig visible at 1812 z MMM copy QSB > > De mal/g3kev/IO94SH > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gerhard Hickl" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 4:58 PM > Subject: LF: Testtransmission 137,685 OE3GHB > > > > Hi all! > > > > In the moment I'm trying to test my TX and my antenna. I'm going to > > transmit from 1800z to 2000z today. Probably a bit longer. > > > > My Antenna is a Marconi, 12m vertically/top-loaded. The loading coil is > > about 2,4 mH and antenna input is about 35 Watts. > > > > The QRG will be 137,685 and the text is "TEST OE3GHB" repeated every 10 > > Minutes. My VFO is also still in development-state an so QRG could vary > > some cps. > > > > Please take the time and try to receive my signal. Reports are very > > appreciated. Thank you in advance. > > > > 73 and cheers > > > > OE3GHB > > Gerhard > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (rly-ma05.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.49]) by air-ma10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA103-8ac4b057101329; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:23:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA056-8ac4b057101329; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:23:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NB9lr-0000ns-NJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:22:11 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NB9lr-0000nj-5T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:22:11 +0000 Received: from pne-smtpout1-sn1.fre.skanova.net ([81.228.11.98]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NB9lp-00030X-Gx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:22:11 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (81.235.167.68) by pne-smtpout1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (7.3.140.3) (authenticated as u33233109) id 4AE169E6003D588E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:22:03 +0100 Message-ID: <4B0570B4.8040209@telia.com> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:22:12 +0100 From: Johan Bodin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: WSPR 2.0 is now available Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/ 73 Johan SM6LKM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (rly-mf01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.171]) by air-mf06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF064-93f4b090f6a3a0; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 05:16:17 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF015-93f4b090f6a3a0; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 05:16:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NC9TN-0001Gz-Pt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:15:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NC9TN-0001Gq-7B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:15:13 +0000 Received: from out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.244]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NC9TM-00039Z-JY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:15:13 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ar0EAC6eCEtZ8aCA/2dsb2JhbACCT4s5BsQOhDwE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,266,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="246398732" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([89.241.160.128]) by out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 22 Nov 2009 10:15:04 +0000 Message-ID: <003001ca6b5c$a7635a70$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:15:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 137 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002D_01CA6B5C.A708DE60" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01CA6B5C.A708DE60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nw QRV 137.0 cq cw mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01CA6B5C.A708DE60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_002D_01CA6B5C.A708DE60-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md02.mx.aol.com (rly-md02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.140]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD103-8ec4b08e3e25b; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:10:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD024-8ec4b08e3e25b; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:10:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NC6Zo-0000Lg-UB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:09:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NC6Zo-0000LX-Ff for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:09:40 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NC6Zn-0002IK-Lh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:09:40 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so4565259bwz.4 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:09:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=KIoDylQduSBu6w3JvRakXpMB4cIH6iD1wDs1+nx6GIE=; b=mmG+9Iy3WfZYdhL2tmK89ZyAEzelruspzy86fYKFh6Up+Jyn0JfJtrJN8r/uOhNtjn Fk/RmsJA7OKKzPAEk5Ugd2ezD6dpEPO9aBsknzhpDijxe3e2HSOX/Vp1Y1p1IjyvnVLR cFLOjS+7mpAWZhyyBTTscTBRXdzYnWjA3b8HE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=JShdBh61jtSWt/azxtH00LvLPhDJDs/lTTFGVyA1Y/ivorrhyHgCbiDMmtNWNVth/n a31oV5HRjlLWWUNL+7PwGiFy1eMsfxSLXawTJLd6BXC/tFKR72vdaTQrwbQmwyVtALsH 14f5K0TfymR/MMTqcQHLEjgkLYTrqXiIedHRc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.34.9 with SMTP id j9mr3431700bkd.10.1258873773811; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:09:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4A7814FFC4834A01841AEE5D333DFA75@AGB> References: <785212.33618.qm@web28105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <4B086C3F.3080309@g3ysx.org.uk> <4A7814FFC4834A01841AEE5D333DFA75@AGB> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:09:33 +0000 Message-ID: <3aaadcb80911212309g528c5fdfrfc7d4b96b097ec11@mail.gmail.com> From: Chris McCarthy To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: Re: LF: WSPR BEACONS Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00032555a1961ae7d30478f06498 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m236.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --00032555a1961ae7d30478f06498 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stewart, still on version 1 wspr here. This one was strange and was received in between DI2AG decodes on the upper part of the band. 2009-11-21 20:06 VA2XQB 0.505182 -3 0 EG78 5 G3XVL JO02nb 11624 39 Chris G3XVL 2009/11/21 Graham > Know I see why this is called 'the reflector' same old things just ke= ep > bouncing round ! > > Ps Quite a lot of funny calls on the lf/mf activity list tonig= ht > ... not wspr 2 I hope ? > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Stewart Bryant" > Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 10:39 PM > To: > Subject: Re: LF: WSPR BEACONS > > > >> M0FMT wrote: >> >>> I am with Mal. WSPR has no place on the UK 501 / 504 Kc/s Amateur >>> /_Communication_/ Band. The Norwegian Licence has got it right - CW on= ly! >>> 73 petefmt >>> >> >> >> This is not what Ofcom calls it. In their recent consultation they say: >> >> "Agenda Item 1.23 - Amateur Service in parts of the band 415 =96 526.5= kHz >> >> "5.19 Radio amateurs use radio for experimental purposes and to provide >> communications in support of emergency services in some situations." >> >> So unless we are supporting an emergency, 500KHz seems to be a band for= us >> to conduct experiments on. >> >> - Stewart/G3YSX >> >> >> >> > > > --00032555a1961ae7d30478f06498 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stewart, still on version 1 wspr here. This one was=A0 strange and was rec= eived in between DI2AG decodes on the upper part of the band.

=A02009-11-21 20:06=A0=A0VA2XQB=A0 =A00.505182=A0=A0-3=A0=A00=A0=A0EG78=A0=A05=A0=A0G3XVL=A0=A0JO02nb=A0=A011624=A0 =A039=A0
Chris G3XVL
<= br>

2009/11/21 Graham = <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk= >
Know =A0I see= =A0why this =A0is called 'the reflector' same old things just kee= p bouncing =A0round !

Ps =A0Quite =A0a =A0lot =A0of =A0funny =A0calls =A0on the =A0lf/mf =A0 act= ivity list tonight ... not wspr 2 =A0I hope =A0?

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From: "Stewart Bryant" <stewart@g3ysx.org.uk>
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 10:39 PM
To: <= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Subject: Re: LF: WSPR BEACONS



M0FMT wrote:
I am with Mal. =A0WSPR has no place on the UK 501 / 504 Kc/s Amateur /_Com= munication_/ Band. The Norwegian Licence has got it right - CW only!
=A073 petefmt


This is not what Ofcom calls it. In their recent consultation they say:
"Agenda Item 1.23 - Amateur Service in parts of the band 415 =96 526.= 5 kHz

"5.19 Radio amateurs use radio for experimental purposes and to provi= de communications in support of emergency services in some situations.&quo= t;

So unless we are supporting an emergency, 500KHz seems to be a band for us= to conduct experiments on.

- Stewart/G3YSX







--00032555a1961ae7d30478f06498-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v125.8) with ESMTP id MAILINMG032-a1c4b0340862f8; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:32:17 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG066-a1c4b0340862f8; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:32:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAYRi-0007aD-CI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:30:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAYRi-0007a4-1d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:30:54 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAYRg-0003cR-Ti for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:30:54 +0000 Received: from edmwaa01.telusplanet.net ([75.157.140.241]) by priv-edmwes24.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091118003049.SMDE16249.priv-edmwes24.telusplanet.net@edmwaa01.telusplanet.net> for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:30:49 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.67] (d75-157-140-241.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.140.241]) by edmwaa01.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 90BF32476798273C for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:30:49 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4B034038.6060005@telus.net> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:30:48 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: The Pirate of Newfoundland? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) By popular request I'm lightening up on the issue. Not to be known as a 'Mal'content. For anyone interested in the real reason why this discussion is happening have a look at the new 600m Buttulator where I'll limit my 'Mal'contenting... :-) http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/ BTW - DCF39 is burning in here as of sunset local. 73 Scott From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (rly-mf07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.177]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v125.8) with ESMTP id MAILINMF041-9704afcc3111d9; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:23:26 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF076-9704afcc3111d9; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:23:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8lmu-0000Lx-Ut for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:21:24 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8lmu-0000Lo-8s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:21:24 +0000 Received: from mcgi74.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.212]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8lmr-0000sr-VW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:21:24 +0000 Received: from mcgi74.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi74.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07FBF17113 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:21:16 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [81.195.24.194] by mcgi74.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:21:15 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:21:15 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <563642.98089.qm@web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001801ca63ec$609a7f50$0900a8c0@lark> Message-Id: <1137672253.1258078875.51923096.88013@mcgi74.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_----------=_1258078875880131" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --_----------=_1258078875880131 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Hi LF! Congratulation to comrades in Canada with 500kHz opened! Look it on the 507.3 khz pse. Who is it? I see that signal onto G4WGT's grabber so often. I know who is it on the ~507.8 now: > b.. 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MAILRELAYINMA027-8954afc8738260; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:07:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8hoc-00089w-Vb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:06:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8hoc-00089n-1C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:06:54 +0000 Received: from idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca ([24.71.223.10]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8hoa-0001BX-Dp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:06:54 +0000 Received: from pd2ml1so-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.141.139]) by pd3mo1so-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 12 Nov 2009 15:06:44 -0700 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.0 c=1 a=BgIo6cWXEGMA:10 a=bMPSwsB01Q4O/CPJ8uTuaw==:17 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=f0RPBRECAAAA:8 a=pSDxxfrZAAAA:8 a=UliUF1eLxKXp51QQJlcA:9 a=lmwuGxTXkxiJcH5BSaoA:7 a=-8gLXowjzjEjyfs5GYM1e3mjuT0A:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=dn95DZbOqnwPSVB7:21 a=HvDZQeyFx3c1W-w1:21 a=BrDiTsk0AAAA:8 a=GM0rcODgsD86dDK29gUA:9 a=qt1TPkqS6fUW_GO2Mx0A:7 a=WiIxiK9xS36T6qJv_y8yxMSs3-gA:4 a=-hJg1tCh9CgA:10 a=Ss17ffG1SPc8rrHZ:21 a=iqeY42m6j7AZqOlW:21 Received: from unknown (HELO Jordan1) ([68.147.20.14]) by pd2ml1so-dmz.prod.shaw.ca with SMTP; 12 Nov 2009 15:06:43 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Jordan" To: References: <563642.98089.qm@web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:06:43 -0700 Organization: VE6ZT MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.5 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0035_01CA63A9.BEEA00F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01CA63A9.BEEA00F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm still trying to figure out why my request for the Experimental Per= mit was denied... If I recall, I was told there wasn't anything new to= be learned at that frequency, and that my region (VE6) wasn't particu= larly interesting.=20 I wonder who gets to decide who gets to operate...? I know it's not RA= C, although they do provide the paperwork. 73...Jordan VE6ZT ----- Original Message -----=20 From: M0FMT=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 2:55 PM Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amat= ure stations ?? Just more boring old Beacon stations claging up MF.....look on= RAC web site... http://www.rac.ca/ ........ 2008-11-10 Canadian Amateurs on 600 Metres Industry Canada has accepted= an RAC proposal whereby selected Canadian radio amateurs would be per= mitted to operate in the vicinity of 500 kHz. These amateur operations= would support Canada's efforts to action a proposal on the agenda of= the 2011 World Radio Conference (WRC2011) which, if adopted, would cr= eate an amateur allocation in the 600-meter band. Industry Canada have= authorized RAC to recommend amateurs who would be licensed to operate= in the 504 to 509 kHz band with a maximum power of 20 watts ERP and= bandwidth up to 1 kHz. Stations operating in this band would be techn= ically operating under Special Developmental Licenses although they wo= uld all be radio amateurs. Distinct call signs would be used and the= licenses would be renewable annually subject to the amateur demonstra= ting the research he has carried out. More information will follow sho= rtly in the pages of TCA or via subsequent bulletins. Bryan Rawlings= VE3QN/VE2QNN Radio Amateurs of/du Canada, Inc.=20 73 petefmt --- On Thu, 12/11/09, Graham wrote: From: Graham Subject: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other= amature stations ?? To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 21:43 Can anyone clarify the situation as to who can work who=20 is this the same as the USA ?=20 Tnx - G .. =20 From the IARU web site=20 As of 30 October 2009 Canada issued two licences in the Deve= lopmental Service in the range 504-509 kHz. a.. VE1ZZ has been assigned VX9PSO and is reported on 504.= 6 kHz=20 b.. VO1NA has been assigned VX9MRC and is reported on 507.= 77 and 508.5 kHz Two more stations, VE3OHH and VE7BDQ, are expected to become= active soon.=20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01CA63A9.BEEA00F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm still trying to figure out why my request= for the=20 Experimental Permit was denied... If I recall, I was told there wasn't= anything=20 new to be learned at that frequency, and that my region (VE6) wasn't= =20 particularly interesting.
I wonder who gets to decide who gets to operat= e...? I know=20 it's not RAC, although they do provide the paperwork.
 73...Jordan VE6ZT
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 M0FMT=
Sent: Thursday, November 12,= 2009 2:55=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Are the new= VE stations=20 able to qso with other amature stations ??

Just more boring old Beacon stations claging up MF.....lo= ok on RAC=20 web site... http://www.rac.ca/<= /A> =20 ........
 

2008-11-10

Canadian Amateurs on 600 Metres Industry Canada has accep= ted an RAC=20 proposal whereby selected Canadian radio amateurs would be per= mitted to=20 operate in the vicinity of 500 kHz. These amateur operations= would=20 support Canada's efforts to action a proposal on the agenda of= the 2011=20 World Radio Conference (WRC2011) which, if adopted, would crea= te an=20 amateur allocation in the 600-meter band. Industry Canada have= =20 authorized RAC to recommend amateurs who would be licensed to= operate in=20 the 504 to 509 kHz band with a maximum power of 20 watts ERP= and=20 bandwidth up to 1 kHz. Stations operating in this band would= be=20 technically operating under Special Developmental Licenses alt= hough they=20 would all be radio amateurs. Distinct call signs would be used= and the=20 licenses would be renewable annually subject to the amateur=20 demonstrating the research he has carried out. More informatio= n will=20 follow shortly in the pages of TCA or via subsequent bulletins= . Bryan=20 Rawlings VE3QN/VE2QNN Radio Amateurs of/du Canada, Inc.
 
 
73 petefmt

--- On Thu, 12/11/09, Graham=20 <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

From:=20 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Subject: LF: Are= the new VE=20 stations able to qso with other amature stations ??
To:= =20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Thursday, 12 November,= 2009,=20 21:43

Can anyone clarify the  situat= ion as=20 to  who can work who
is this the  same as the = USA=20 ? 
 
Tnx - G ..   
From the  IARU = web site=20
As of 30 October 2009 Canada issued two licences in the= =20 Developmental Service in the range 504-509 kHz.
  • VE1ZZ has been assigned VX9PSO and is reported on 504.= 6 kHz=20
  • VO1NA has been assigned VX9MRC and is reported on 507.= 77 and=20 508.5 kHz
Two more stations, VE3OHH and VE7BDQ, are expected= to become=20 active soon.=20



------=_NextPart_000_0035_01CA63A9.BEEA00F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de08.mx.aol.com (rly-de08.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.144]) by air-de03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE031-4f94aff38c5364; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:10:18 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE088-4f94aff38c5364; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:09:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9Rjg-0001oM-Ct for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:08:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9Rjf-0001oD-TL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:08:51 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9Rje-0008TL-DB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:08:51 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so4688220bwz.4 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:08:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=t1FWQymrzkn1TDfHcpudnEPZ1phoalVkzJB3IMLwIUE=; b=U5ijudaFdwUDV51S3OnjkRgtRU4zOwtLjxnEe15fT0bxSp/MIgq6oS90r5BF7MARN+ vTgevaN/rJQahrqBo3sd+uRZMdgvrvnNkqNSFSaX6dZwlrLJE8vgMfWbDyMKngMs7eLO 7ibFLdXSQM3NEPoSC6CPQokStRyTtiO3wNavM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=CPk4UXBFfonrF9a61m5mmTyMlUZ1mqCJnSC/7/8+zM3RYd3r5QfdZQift2SMSYabEZ iYEIALEYm/A6v12sYQchy6bQFpiXyv+4Q0NYYFtSSa9+5ecrhrbfRGTAynajgVZ8VYwg 0YydzQx1LYwCF8kbqxpgM9JdJxNpPmr0l2M3o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.2.211 with SMTP id 19mr7413625bkk.6.1258240124142; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:08:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:08:42 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911141508w69cbb664i4d18d02e39c480d0@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: LF: 500kHz WSPR - Germany at last Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd1d6eaa45bc604785cdb7d X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m284.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0cd1d6eaa45bc604785cdb7d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 2009-11-14 23:04 G3XBM 0.503892 -29 1 JO02dg 0.002 *DK6NI* JN59ln 805 108 Thanks so much for this report, which is my first from Germany and now my 7th country with <2mW ERP. 73s Roger G3XBM -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --000e0cd1d6eaa45bc604785cdb7d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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--000e0cd1d6eaa45bc604785cdb7d-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de01.mx.aol.com (rly-de01.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.137]) by air-de07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE072-4af4b00544a101; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:19:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE014-4af4b00544a101; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:19:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9kcX-0000Rx-Iv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:18:45 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9kcX-0000Ro-6F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:18:45 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9kcV-0000tn-6R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:18:45 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.6] (opc1.twatt.home [192.168.1.6]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0BC63B512 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:18:41 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4B005411.4010506@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:18:41 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1043CB7D895D4161B1C87CDD140332A2@AGB> <0CADF4DD71FD43A2A8384463754F6344@AGB> In-Reply-To: <0CADF4DD71FD43A2A8384463754F6344@AGB> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Running mW wspr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Graham wrote: > > Crazy system ..... spot just in from John ! I thought your mW signal was meant to be a challenge, but of course Roger's already discovered that WSPR will decode signals that you can't hear, and are often so weak on a waterfall that QRSS3 would be a struggle (despite what someone here repeatedly fails to comprehend) Can you go any lower? John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc02.mx.aol.com (rly-mc02.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.86]) by air-mc07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC071-d594b0832f4101; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:35:50 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC021-d594b0832f4101; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:35:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBun1-000823-8H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:34:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBun0-00081u-SQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:34:30 +0000 Received: from mailout11.t-online.de ([194.25.134.85]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBun0-0001ED-92 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:34:30 +0000 Received: from fwd01.aul.t-online.de by mailout11.t-online.de with smtp id 1NBsel-00066B-01; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:17:51 +0100 Received: from e7010 (Zeow9BZY8hm3jLrfQ8qhe+2notIgk0O41un5TPbdQUNZxu+-wOVr5+iAmDQjnH5gAf@[84.147.221.194]) by fwd01.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1NBscG-1hg0Jc0; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:15:16 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01ca6ac5$cfc00550$6402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:15:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: Zeow9BZY8hm3jLrfQ8qhe+2notIgk0O41un5TPbdQUNZxu+-wOVr5+iAmDQjnH5gAf X-TOI-MSGID: 15267651-cbc6-43f5-a2d6-b9cd00642f99 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: DI2AG daylight reports Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6ACE.2F7E8B30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6ACE.2F7E8B30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear MF, many thanks for the first WSPR-reports today.=20 14:54 PA3FNY 504Km 15:00 DF8JR 881 " =20 15:06 DD7PC 225 " =20 15:10 PA0EGO 507 "=20 15:26 G3XVL 753 " =20 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6ACE.2F7E8B30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear MF,
      &= nbsp; many=20 thanks for the first WSPR-reports today.
14:54  PA3FNY  504Km=
15:00  DF8JR   &n= bsp; 881=20 "  
15:06  DD7PC   = 225=20 "  
15:10  PA0EGO 507 " =
15:26  G3XVL   &n= bsp;753 =20 "  
 
73   Walter   DI2= AG /=20 DJ2LF
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6ACE.2F7E8B30-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC032-b3c4b025c7417f; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:19:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC088-b3c4b025c7417f; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:19:01 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAJFl-00014T-Hp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:17:33 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAJFl-00014K-3u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:17:33 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAJFj-0005gL-4u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:17:33 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2342451C00C for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:17:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from PC_van_Rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-106.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.106]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDD6EF3862 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:17:18 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:17:20 +0100 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <1f0624b90911160805u4435bd18ue805924594d8b997@mail.gmail.co m> References: <1f0624b90911160805u4435bd18ue805924594d8b997@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091117081718.BDD6EF3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Gary, All, yesterday I could copy VX9MRC in QRSS3 with a surprising strong signal as early as 18 UTC, when I launched Argo. Throughout the evening the signal was strong and with little QSB from 19-22UTC, after that the signal became weaker with much more QSB. Probably because I had a sked with Joe at 22:40 UTC ;-) . But despite all we managed to complete the QSO with both way M report (would have been a solid O earlier the evening). A first ON-VE QSO on 500kHz and with +/- 4075km a new DX record for me Joe transmitted on 507.770 and I on 501.190. Between 19 and 22 UTC the signal was audible most of the time and would have been CW copy if it were not squeezed between the NDB "Z" carrier at 507.980 (S9+ here) the SM6BHZ CW/SSB test transmissions (up to S9) and a local birdie on 507.600. For the QSO I was running 300W into my 11m high / 25m long lazy-L antenna, estimated ERP about 1.5 Watt (at best, if the greenery does not absorb too much) The night from Sunday - Monday I left Argo running, VX9MRC produced a good signal all through the night and faded out at 07UTC. This would mean that there is a potential transatlantic path on 500kHz for 13h a day !!! 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T At 17:05 16/11/2009, you wrote: >Hi All, > >Good signals from both stations last night. > >Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df11.mx.aol.com (rly-df11.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.24]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF063-58a4b07d35e1db; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:48:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF113-58a4b07d35e1db; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:47:43 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBoQS-0004rL-IK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:46:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBoQS-0004rC-6k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:46:48 +0000 Received: from smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com ([195.200.78.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBoQR-0007BT-E5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:46:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 3855 invoked by uid 507); 21 Nov 2009 12:46:30 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO JR) (john.rabson@numeo.fr@217.67.155.178) by smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 2009 12:46:30 +0100 Message-ID: <200911211246360102.1A12FB2A@smtp2.numeo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:46:36 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Building a Softrock Lite RX with the M0BMU mods for 136 kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Friends, Five or six years ago, I built the various circuits in the SPRAT introduct= ory SMD kit and they all worked. I now wish to assemble a Softrock Lite= RX for 136 kHz. =20 In the mean time my eyesight has unfortunately deteriorated and, even with= a very good magnifier and a sub-millimetre soldering bit, things are just= too fiddly for me to cope with. Is there anybody who could help, please?= The kit and the additional components necessary are at present at an add= ress in the UK. 73 John F5VLF/G3PAI From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df11.mx.aol.com (rly-df11.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.24]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF054-58e4b0b9a9033f; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 03:34:33 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF117-58e4b0b9a9033f; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 03:34:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCqpg-0004CU-Gn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:33:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCqpf-0004CL-Tr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:33:07 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCqpf-0008BC-3h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:33:07 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58E564C8037 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:33:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BE6C4C8143 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:33:00 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B0B9A3D.9030403@online.fr> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:33:01 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?IkplYW4tUGllcnJlIE3DqXLDqSAoRjFBRkopIg==?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4B04EADA.4090707@telus.net> <57a24ca70911190525s5bbf2768gcfe5e7150eb8f784@mail.gmail.com> <20091121211012.fehyrbxl4400ckc8@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <4B0B096A.7040507@online.fr> In-Reply-To: X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: VX9MRC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Joe , What your setup in 600m ? Thank you , 73 f1afj jcraig@mun.ca a =C3=A9crit : > Bonjour Jean-Pierre, > > Merci beaucoup. > Oui des signaux sont vraiment forts. > > 73 > Joe > > On Mon, 23 Nov 2009, "Jean-Pierre M=EF=BF=BDr=EF=BF=BD (F1AFJ)" wrote: > >> Hello Joe, >> >> This evening I listened to your beacon, it is too easy! =EF=BF=BD. firs= t blow=20 >> it is in limps! >> >> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj >> From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md08.mx.aol.com (rly-md08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.146]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMD083-91a4b0e941a106; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:43:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD082-91a4b0e941a106; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:43:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDfYD-0006CG-2i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:42:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDfYC-0006C5-4O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:42:28 +0000 Received: from msa-k1.u-netsurf.ne.jp ([202.233.11.14]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from <7l1rll@dp.u-netsurf.ne.jp>) id 1NDfYA-0006T2-0L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:42:28 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.5] (d82.HkanagawaFL41.vectant.ne.jp [222.230.132.82]) by msa-k1.u-netsurf.ne.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CFF9349DB for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:42:21 +0900 (JST) From: Rick Wakatori <7l1rll@dp.u-netsurf.ne.jp> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <000901ca6ea1$d28c4ac0$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> References: <1259236455.6299.20.camel@vaio3rd> <000901ca6ea1$d28c4ac0$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> Organization: RLL Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:42:22 +0900 Message-Id: <1259246542.6299.38.camel@vaio3rd> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: New comer in QRSS120 at 137.7KHz Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Mal, Thank you for response. It's now on the air. The text is "CQ 7L1RLL K", but now sent "CQ 7" so far. I will try day by day. -- -.. . --... .-.. .---- .-. .-.. .-.. .-.-. 7L1RLL under ubuntu/Linux in Kawasaki,Japan(JP) URL=http://www1.u-netsurf.ne.jp/~7l1rll/radio.html -..--- -.- .-.. ..-.. --. --. ...- .-... ...-. On Thu, 2009-11-26 at 14:07 +0000, mal hamilton wrote: > Rik > I will look for u. Pse let me know what time u are onair transmitting > de mal/g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rick Wakatori" <7l1rll@dp.u-netsurf.ne.jp> > To: > Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 11:54 AM > Subject: LF: New comer in QRSS120 at 137.7KHz > > > > Hi All, > > I have CQing by QRSS120 at 137.7KHz from a few day ago. > > Please look at the frequency. > > -- > > -.. . --... .-.. .---- .-. .-.. .-.. .-.-. > > 7L1RLL under ubuntu/Linux in Kawasaki,Japan(JP) > > URL=http://www1.u-netsurf.ne.jp/~7l1rll/radio.html > > -..--- -.- .-.. ..-.. --. --. ...- .-... ...-. > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (rly-mf04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.174]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF104-9564b0723ec2f8; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:19:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF044-9564b0723ec2f8; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:19:10 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBcje-0002BX-AF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:17:50 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBcjd-0002BN-Ep for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:17:49 +0000 Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com ([205.188.91.97]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBcja-0005P7-U4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:17:49 +0000 Received: from imo-da04.mx.aol.com (imo-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.202]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nAKNHZPk026371 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:17:35 -0500 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-da04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id l.ca7.53b0d133 (48600) for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:17:32 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:22:32 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: F4DTL@aol.com X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS20 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_ca7.53b0d133.38387eb8_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --part1_ca7.53b0d133.38387eb8_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1258759351" -------------------------------1258759351 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Hello Jay,nice signal again tonite. =20 =20 F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC756 Pro Ant: 10m tuned MF vertical Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 20/11/2009 13:32:31 Paris, Madrid, =20 jrusgrove@comcast.net a =E9crit : Thanks to Rik, Nicolas, Laurence (China!), Garry and Marco for successful= =20 reception reports...and=20 others that looked for the signal. Tonight WE2XGR/2 will transmit "X" in QRSS20 (with cw ID at the beginning= =20 of the X) from ~ 2130 to ~=20 2330Z. A slight frequency change was requested. Tonight's operation will= =20 be on 506.506 kHz. As=20 always, reports are greatly appreciated. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 =20 -------------------------------1258759351 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= FONT id=3Drole_document color=3D#000000 size=3D2 face=3DArial>
Hello Jay,nice signal again tonite.
 
F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP

RX : Icom IC756 Pro
Ant: 10m= tuned=20 MF vertical
 
 
 
Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 20/11/2009 13:32:31 Paris, Madrid,=20 jrusgrove@comcast.net a =E9crit :
T= hanks=20 to Rik, Nicolas, Laurence (China!), Garry and Marco for successful recep= tion=20 reports...and
others that looked for the signal.

Tonight WE2X= GR/2=20 will transmit "X" in QRSS20 (with cw ID at the beginning of the X) from= ~ 2130=20 to ~
2330Z. A slight frequency change was requested. Tonight's opera= tion=20 will be on 506.506 kHz. As
always, reports are greatly=20 appreciated.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2=20

 
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quoted-printable Hi LF, tonight i run beacon WSPR with only 10 mW ERP. This test will run all night. 73 de Gus SM6BHZ www.sm6bhz.com ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01CA5F44.27ED7A10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi LF,
 
tonight i run beacon WSPR with only 10= mW=20 ERP.
This test will run all=20 night.
 
73 de Gus SM6BHZ<= /DIV>
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_002F_01CA5F44.27ED7A10-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (rly-dd05.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.152]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD064-b7d4af9db13109; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:28:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD057-b7d4af9db13109; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:28:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7yG0-0000Wi-9q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:28:08 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7yFz-0000WY-4O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:28:07 +0000 Received: from web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.127]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7yFy-0005m0-1Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:28:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 86302 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Nov 2009 21:27:55 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1257888475; bh=TCEGYXUKUyucuy6mljlS79VYpzhEA75Ggk90yDjuB5c=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GFTFJvuTwqgXVad8TJuXnxNVyT+euDfCKh5cBdwUcNNOV+clz6MsA8uUI8nS2HFhntICjftjH29vtU4MrvDWZLLHS6BGsLEyzt/1Pzi1yilj6Xi6BCZcxQLg2k9Mvxfwa8pfA5n+tbNDwWRJVMPWVo/Xm0dz12qFwxzJlGQ4xrg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=29L/6ZLn0EU43rROvsEYJ05SJWHJ8o5JbN9jtPWrOg6YcojCyeK6BSTZ17ueVmqDRCsstIrVDVF05sFy4b7syTCUVg9eHuomdm2Rushq7S2Sda0+eaE2t3HG5+g8Tbj1BGFbdr1o/MhVewHps8M7IQoja0Sr+1YGwiVZ8WRW/WM=; Message-ID: <773621.85981.qm@web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: v.HTAPkVM1lPkITSLgSxjL_nEQy4exn5b7w8qMBsHPwOp.vXWBUfBiXn10eXhXZmZ7yzRxXVXB.aFel0eD5iQHzvnq8JmQKv3ZbODmmLiX3ZrWnfyZdjzGWQWVNc0vPwsLe.py4UUDPrAsSe3M0iVuvNG5Yky15jF9Tpfclq5q5KrD.s.mTQjC4FVeLx91UshLpszvvbxxUP9xI2Bj5G9QxsZiApn6HingNkoIWQjdb51YTu1jQKleVjBprM8ZjJdRYoeZ89IOkSEDhATGfBAGKz0m8Htdlk0ySdYUWiX8tPlG_3B1i8Vk8WFOEUFaiKxprEsaL0zeks Received: from [86.130.73.134] by web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:27:55 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:27:55 -0800 (PST) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: RE: Re: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-806144338-1257888475=:85981" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING, LINES_OF_YELLING_2 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d232.1 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-806144338-1257888475=:85981 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jim and group =C2=A0 Since you have dragged me into this debate Jim I feel obliged to respond. =C2=A0 To date you have not caused me any bother from your WSPR activities. This= is probably due to your low TX power and antenna efficiency plus the dist= ance separating us. =C2=A0 Nobody has a right to "A Frequency" on any band even though the RSGB would= have you believe differently, especially on VHF but that's another issue.= You have no need IMHO to feel you are a Johny come lately to 500kc/s it's= your band as much as it is any one elses who satisfy OFCOMs requirements= (I feel a bit of a fraud about that myself at times). =C2=A0 None of that is at issue, what is at issue is the mode that carries no ide= ntification what so ever, so how would=C2=A0Dennis actually know who is se= nding? Also weak signal modes is a misnomer in that weak to whom? The blok= e 20 miles away it probably is weak but to the poor devil only a fraction= of a mile away its a rock pounder! On HF where there is only short distan= ce ground wave and fairly wide bands these constant carrier,=C2=A0unattend= ed, switch on and forget, non two-way=C2=A0communication=C2=A0modes co-exi= st quite well with other traffic. However on 500 kc/s we have the benefit= of very extended ground wave but the disadvantage of a=C2=A0very narrow= band to operate two-way communications along side a constant carrier mode= with no common means of contacting each other. AM, CW, FM and SSB are all= transparent modes so if the channel (and that's all we really have on 500= , not like in Norway) is congested it is easy to ask a fellow op to stand= by and that's what we do on CW and with the other transparent modes. We also don't need about=C2=A0 500= quids worth of computing gear to do it. And in=C2=A0any case even that wo= uld not help in the case of WSPR because it is not a two-way comms. system= !=C2=A0 The argument will go I am sure, that us CW merchants should buy ourselves= better CW filters and that my be the solution but please remember those= of us who build and use cw tend to use simple gear but even with your (no= t you in particular but figuratively) FT1,000,000MFJ's=C2=A0will have the= front end de-sensed by a whopping signal 1.5kc/s from the working channel= . So that's the issue Jim.=20 =C2=A0 IMHO it's not a compatible mode.=20 =C2=A0 When=C2=A0I applied for my NOV I asked for it on the basis of working CW,= QSOing in the Amateur fashion with some QRSS activity.=C2=A0I did not ask= =C2=A0to use a constant carrier mode 24/7. I asked for CW=C2=A0thinking ev= ery body else was asking for the same, looks like I was wrong! =C2=A0 I am please to see the Norwegians seem to have got it completely right 17k= c/s band with CW only. =C2=A0 This is not a debate the Europeans (apart from OZ,ON and now LA)=C2=A0or= the USA or the Canadians can enter into because=C2=A0none=C2=A0allows two= -way comms on 500kc/s. Those countries other than UK that do allow two-way= comms on=C2=A0500 are only sparsly populated with ops and do not see the= issue from first hand but purely from a theoretical perspective and thats= not the same thing. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 73 es cul on TB AM=C2=A0or 500 cw Jim de=C2=A0petefmt. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 --- On Tue, 10/11/09, James Cowburn wrote: From: James Cowburn Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 18:40 Hi Dennis =C2=A0 Not offended at all, more alarmed and disappointed that I have been causin= g you problems and grief. As the =E2=80=9Cnew boy to the band=E2=80=9D I= did not realize I was operating on top of your frequency. =C2=A0=20 =C2=A0=20 Many apologies to you, Chris (and probably Pete too) for my QRM.=C2=A0 If= you can let me know the sorts of times that you want to work the band the= n I=E2=80=99ll endeavour to keep in Rx only mode or QRT during those times= . =C2=A0=C2=A0Chris did suggest that if I could avoid =E2=80=9CWSPRing=E2= =80=9D on Saturday and Sunday mornings when a lot of CW QSOs are underway= then that would help. If there are any evening segments or weekday slots= that I could also avoid then do =C2=A0let me know and =C2=A0hopefully we= can find a good solution.=20 =C2=A0=20 I certainly don=E2=80=99t want to be a =E2=80=9CJohnny come lately=E2=80= =9D and ruin the band for all the other users=20 =C2=A0=20 =C2=A0=20 =C2=A0=20 With best regards =C2=A0=20 =C2=A0=20 Jim=20 =C2=A0=20 =C2=A0=20 Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS=20 =C2=A0 From: owner- rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner- rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org ] On Behalf Of DENNIS EASTERLING Sent: 10 November 2009 17:22 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO =C2=A0=20 Hi Jim =C2=A0 I was speaking figuratively as you are so near and=C2=A0on my xtl frequenc= y.=C2=A0=C2=A0 My comment=C2=A0was directed at Chris' statment in email su= bject1000 QSOs,=C2=A0who also suffers and others who have complained about= beacons in general.=C2=A0=C2=A0 In fact the band is often dead for hours= on end and it is nice to find any signal, beacon or QSO, especially when= testing.=C2=A0 My point is that =C2=A0is there should be room for=C2=A0bo= th=C2=A0beacons=C2=A0and QSOs,=C2=A0 then follows a suggestion that LFrs= =C2=A0may like to=C2=A0come to some agreement about reserving a section fo= r each mode. =C2=A0 Hoping I did not offend, 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: James Cowburn=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 4:51 PM Subject: LF: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO =C2=A0 Hi Dennis=20 =C2=A0=20 I did not realize I was causing you QRM. =C2=A0A quick e-mail would have= alerted me to it, rather than me being a =E2=80=9Cpain=E2=80=9D. =C2=A0= =C2=A0I=E2=80=99m happy to work out a compromise where we operate at separ= ate times or if you suggest a different frequency for me to work on. Just= drop me a line with your ideas on this.=20 =C2=A0=20 With best regards =C2=A0=20 =C2=A0=20 Jim=20 =C2=A0=20 =C2=A0=20 Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS=20 From: owner- rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner- rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org ] On Behalf Of DENNIS EASTERLING Sent: 10 November 2009 16:13 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO =C2=A0=20 Congratulations Chris. =C2=A0 Most wspr stations seem to congregate at the top end of the band and are= not too much trouble.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Jim G7NKS is the biggest pain as= he sits on my xtl frequency and is so close.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Maybe a compromi= se would be for people using beacons to keep to one segment of the band (h= opefully not 502.2 kHz -hee) =C2=A0 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Chris Osborn=20 To: LF Group=20 Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 6:03 PM Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO =C2=A0 LF It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m. This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 600m /= 80m. Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0CF -= No. 998. QSO break-down according to mode: =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 928 CW,=C2=A0 34 RTTY= =C2=A0 and=C2=A0=C2=A0 5 QRSS 600m STATIONS My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many of= these go back to the start of the UK=C2=A0 600m allocation in March 2007. Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding beaco= ns). Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of agai= n:=C2=A0 G3KZU, G3YHV . . . Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT:=C2=A0 G3UNT,= G3VTT, G4GDR. . . MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the same sta= tions many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of my total conta= cts. My most frequently worked stations are: GW3UEP - 120=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 G3KEV - 102=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 M0FMT - 90=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 G3ZWH=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 80=C2=A0 (al= as now SK) G3DXZ=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 -=C2=A0=C2=A0 67=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 G4GDR -= =C2=A0=C2=A0 60=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 EI0CF/ GI4DPE=C2=A0 -=C2=A0= 51=C2=A0=C2=A0 M0JXM - 48 G3UNT=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 -=C2=A0=C2=A0 45=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 G3VTT=C2= =A0 -=C2=A0=C2=A0 38 CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a cross-ba= nd QSO: DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . . and our few EU MF friends are still active: ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . . WSPR ON 600m I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for the WSPR= mode was never achieved for=C2=A0 hand sent Morse (CW), which after all= is the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF marine band. If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stations oper= ating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band then I guess= it may be time for me to QSY. 73 Chris G3XIZ =C2=A0 =20 --0-806144338-1257888475=:85981 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Jim and group
 
Since you have dragged me into this debate Jim I feel obliged to resp= ond.
 
To date you have not caused me any bother from your WSPR= activities. This is probably due to your low TX power and antenna efficie= ncy plus the distance separating us.
 
Nobody has a right to "A Frequency" on any band even though the RSGB= would have you believe differently, especially on VHF but that's another= issue. You have no need IMHO to feel you are a Johny come lately to 500kc= /s it's your band as much as it is any one elses= who satisfy OFCOMs requirements (I= feel a bit of a fraud about that myself at times).
 
None of that is at issue, what is at issue is the mode that carries= no identification what so ever, so how would Dennis actually know wh= o is sending? Also weak signal modes is a misnomer in that weak to whom?= The bloke 20 miles away it probably is weak but to the poor devil only a= fraction of a mile away its a rock pounder= ! On HF where there is only short distance ground wav= e and fairly wide bands these constant carrier, unattended, switch on= and forget, non two-way communication modes co-exist quite well= with other traffic. However on 500 kc/s we have the benefit of very exten= ded ground wave but the disadvantage of a very narrow band to operate= two-way communications along side a constant carrier mode with no common= means of contacting each other. AM, CW, FM and SSB are all transparent mo= des so if the channel (and that's all we really have on 500, not like in= Norway) is congested it is easy to ask a fellow op to stand by and that's what we do= on CW and with the other transparent modes. We also don't need about = ; 500 quids worth of computing gear to do it. And in any case even th= at would not help in the case of WSPR because it is not a two-way co= mms. system! 
The argument will go I am sure, that us CW merchants should buy ourse= lves better CW filters and that my be the solution but please remember tho= se of us who build and use cw tend to use simple gear but even with your= (not you in particular but figuratively) FT1,000,000MFJ's will have= the front end de-sensed by a whopping signal 1.5kc/s from the working cha= nnel. So that's the issue Jim.
 
IMHO it's not a compatible mode.
 
When I applied for my NOV I asked for it on the basis of working= CW, QSOing in the Amateur fashion with some QRSS activity. I did not= ask to use a constant carrier mode 24/7. I asked for CW thinkin= g every body else was asking for the same, looks like I was wrong!
 
I am please to see the Norwegians seem to have got it completely righ= t 17kc/s band with CW only.
 
This is not a debate the Europeans (apart from OZ,ON and now LA) = ;or the USA or the Canadians can enter into because none allows= two-way comms on 500kc/s. Those countries other than UK that do allow two= -way comms on 500 are only sparsly populated with ops and do not see= the issue from first hand but purely from a theoretical perspective and= thats not the same thing.
 
 
73 es cul on TB AM or 500 cw Jim de petefmt.
 
 


--- On Tue, 10/11/09, James Cowburn <james.cowburn@v= irgin.net> wrote:

From: James Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.n= et>
Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO
To: rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 18:40

Hi Dennis

 =

Not offended at all,= more alarmed and disappointed that I have been causing you problems and= grief. As the =E2=80=9Cnew boy to the band=E2=80=9D I did not realize I= was operating on top of your frequency.  =20

 = =20

Many apologies to yo= u, Chris (and probably Pete too) for my QRM.  If you can let me know= the sorts of times that you want to work the band then I=E2=80=99ll endea= vour to keep in Rx only mode or QRT during those times.   Chris= did suggest that if I could avoid =E2=80=9CWSPRing=E2=80=9D on Saturday= and Sunday mornings when a lot of CW QSOs are underway then that would he= lp. If there are any evening segments or weekday slots that I could also= avoid then do  let me know and  hopefully we can find a good so= lution.=20

 = =20

I certainly don=E2= =80=99t want to be a =E2=80=9CJohnny come lately=E2=80=9D and ruin the ban= d for all the other users=20

 = =20

 = =20

 = =20

With best regards

=  =20

=  =20

Jim=20

=  =20

=  =20

Dr. James Cowburn G7= NKS=20

=  

From:= owner- rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner- rsgb_lf_group@= blacksheep.org ] On Behalf Of = DENNIS EASTERLING
Sent:= 10 November 2009 17:22
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO

 =20

Hi Jim

 

I was speaking figuratively as you are so near= and on my xtl frequency.   My comment was directed at= Chris' statment in email subject1000 QSOs, who also suffers and othe= rs who have complained about beacons in general.   In fact the= band is often dead for hours on end and it is nice to find any signal, be= acon or QSO, especially when testing.  My point is that  is ther= e should be room for both beacons and QSOs,  then foll= ows a suggestion that LFrs may like to come to some agreement ab= out reserving a section for each mode.

 

Hoping I did not offend, 73 Dennis M0JXM=

----- Original Message -----

To:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 4:51 PM

Subject: LF: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO

 

Hi Dennis=20

 = =20

I did not realize I= was causing you QRM.  A quick e-mail would have alerted me to it, ra= ther than me being a =E2=80=9Cpain=E2=80=9D.   I=E2=80=99m happy= to work out a compromise where we operate at separate times or if you sug= gest a different frequency for me to work on. Just drop me a line with you= r ideas on this.=20

 = =20

With best regards

=  =20

=  =20

Jim=20

=  =20

=  =20

Dr. James Cowburn G7= NKS=20

From:= owner- rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner- rsgb_lf_group@= blacksheep.org ] On Behalf Of = DENNIS EASTERLING
Sent:= 10 November 2009 16:13
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO

=

 =20

Congratulations Chris.

 

Most wspr stations seem to congregate at the to= p end of the band and are not too much trouble.    Jim G7NK= S is the biggest pain as he sits on my xtl frequency and is so close. = ;  Maybe a compromise would be for people using beacons to keep to on= e segment of the band (hopefully not 502.2 kHz -hee)

 

73 Dennis M0JXM

----- Original Message -----

From: Chris Osborn

To:LF Group

Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 6:03 PM

Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO

 

LF

It was a red-le= tter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m.
This includes 72= cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 600m / 80m.

Rog= GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0CF - No.= 998.

QSO break-down according to mode:     928 CW,&= nbsp; 34 RTTY  and   5 QRSS

600m STATIONS
=
My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many of these go back to the= start of the UK  600m allocation in March 2007.
Of these I have= worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding beacons).
Many st= ations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of again: = ; G3KZU, G3YHV . . .
Others were once very active but have subsequently= gone QRT:  G3UNT, G3VTT, G4GDR. . .

MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED

With so few= active operators it is obvious that one will work the same stations many= times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of my total contacts.
My= most frequently worked stations are:

GW3UEP - 120   = ;  G3KEV - 102      M0FMT - 90  &n= bsp;  G3ZWH  -  80  (alas now SK)
G3DXZ  =   -   67     G4GDR -   60&nbs= p;     EI0CF/ GI4DPE  -  51   M0JX= M - 48
G3UNT    -   45    = G3VTT  -   38

CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS
=
There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a cros= s-band QSO:
DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . .

and= our few EU MF friends are still active:
ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . .

WSPR ON 600m

I personally find it sad that the pre= sent level of enthusiasm for the WSPR mode was never achieved for  ha= nd sent Morse (CW), which after all is the mode which I call to mind when= thinking of the old MF marine band.
If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase las= ts, with more and stronger stations operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz seg= ment which is the 600m band then I guess it may be time for me to QSY.
=
73 Chris G3XIZ





 

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Windows 7: I wanted simpler, no= w it's simpler. I'm a rock star. =3D --_31d9cce6-6582-4adb-9461-0820be5cb1a7_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de02.mx.aol.com (rly-de02.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.138]) by air-de07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE073-4bd4b0679391ac; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:11:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE028-4bd4b0679391ac; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:10:51 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBRMo-0005Us-QW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:09:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBRMo-0005Uj-EK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:09:30 +0000 Received: from web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.127]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBRMo-0006mo-1o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:09:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 55634 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Nov 2009 11:09:23 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1258715363; bh=YcZHs7EbDGgV0f0Oz/Q1KjIP5sh3uhQIi7zMgYjvJpU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MwUxGgBjG2O6+3MCQnX51Hx1rFvbAKcw+wONORKF07iLwXARI1QDd6Hj5yQWdUapwqh0BpIpelbHw8Zsb4L/xqrZ4R5cvAt7rVUwc/F1hVZSxlOgbtZ6jdzQdeMFuJqdc/ekUf8aDjhFD1RY1+bluWqZQG6kTGZU2ontoh4aVJs= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YqzW/KYYYsiEccDi2+KPaPak/e3PP4jNVyzn915nGkbyn3p3QngL9BQvHdZoB5CkM0saFRsInLAxEM7ZoP1J3yMGKSIqO1zEWPFdAvkJ70CxsM3vxXh0tRIVXo99/lttZkzRdeioQojysnKeJLyC+gULs5SPzEQQNNrFwaYqrG0=; Message-ID: <923971.55504.qm@web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: qzGDOFkVM1kF6J7IeytO9Z8VT_Fw_.oq8poGGOkl8jr7VNOUDsh9oSTCE5ebe67m3METninELjpVasWcgjL6dLVeylxQ_PmxYpCq74Pr_dD4swEDW6YwOy0y0f2pK37gOdoBDMcobh6n81GWldarbQBFyM5Fp8EOnOCYIDPmzvKWRYfOp_PTY5ZSX98v8Cr4rEaw4eIftpNptDJI_0Mtok.2KhS02RNdznoyMlC6s.bza1bZiePJPQ2UMNxiHmz1Wmr0ejTjJ8.VsvXB59ABA4c7QDkvkS4DDJ9CSGhvZG0wBdQNfrZ12ENfOQ4F4sKpJ1kdZBo1nEDqGg-- Received: from [86.140.72.176] by web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:09:23 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:09:23 -0800 (PST) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: Soft Rock for 500 Khz where to buy ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1931977254-1258715363=:55504" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d296.2 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-1931977254-1258715363=:55504 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0 Hi Graham n group =A0 Just mail Tony Parks details and costs at......... http://www.kb9yig.com/= =A0=20 =A0 Gl 73 petefmt --- On Thu, 19/11/09, Graham wrote: From: Graham Subject: LF: Soft Rock for 500 Khz where to buy ?? To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thursday, 19 November, 2009, 23:29 All . =A0 Where=A0 can a Soft Rock rx for=A0 500=A0 Khz be=A0 purchased from ./ =A0 Or=A0 do=A0 you=A0 need=A0 to=A0 modify a 455 Khz version for 500 ? If so .. where from a 455khz version ? =A0 Tnx-=20 =A0 Graham ..=20 =20 --0-1931977254-1258715363=:55504 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Hi Graham n group
 
Just mail Tony Parks details and costs at......... http://www.kb9yig.com/ 
 
Gl 73 petefmt

--- On Thu, 19/11/09, Graham <g8fzk@g8f= zk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

From: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>Subject: LF: Soft Rock for 500 Khz where to buy ??
To: rsgb_lf_group@= blacksheep.org
Date: Thursday, 19 November, 2009, 23:29

All .
 
Where  can a Soft Rock rx for = 500  Khz be  purchased from ./
 
Or  do  you  need  to=   modify a 455 Khz version for 500 ?
If so .. where from a 455khz version ?
 
Tnx-
 
Graham ..



=20 --0-1931977254-1258715363=:55504-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (rly-mg07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.113]) by air-mg04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG043-a244b034d2b367; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:26:30 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG076-a244b034d2b367; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:26:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAZIB-0007wW-2C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:25:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAZIA-0007wN-K5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:25:06 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAZI9-0003sp-KE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:25:06 +0000 Received: from edmwaa03.telusplanet.net ([75.157.140.241]) by priv-edmwes23.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091118012503.QSCH1978.priv-edmwes23.telusplanet.net@edmwaa03.telusplanet.net> for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:25:03 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.67] (d75-157-140-241.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.140.241]) by edmwaa03.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 4FDB33672FE0C170 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:25:03 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4B034CEF.2010206@telus.net> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:25:03 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <961313.39040.qm@web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) A fine argument if VX9MRC was licensed in the amateur service. But amateur regulations do not apply as VX9MRC is licensed in the developmental service as posting your license publicly would allow others to see. Permissible communication in the developmental service must be clearly stated in the license terms. Polishing up the plank, Scott jcraig@mun.ca wrote: > > Blimey... I've been exposed as a PIRATE! Polly, me parrot, (Newfoundland > Puffin) is concerned I might be disciplined a with keel hauling or the > cat-o-nine-tails! Shiver me timbers! > > For those who have worked VX9MRC and are losing sleep for fear of > being asked to walk the plank by their licensing authority, please > take comfort in > the following: > > The General Radio Regulations defina a radio station as "a place > wherein radio apparatus is located." VO1NA is duly "licensed" in > Canada and is the radio station wherein is located the > radiotelegraphic apparatus of VX9MRC, thanks to the kind efforts of > the Marconi Radio Club of Newfoundland. > > The regulations state "No operator of an amateur station shall > communicate > with radio stations other than stations licensed in the amateur service" > > Therefore, any station that communicates with VX9MRC is communicating > with a station licensed in the amateur serivce and does so accordance > with the regulations. > > Alas, ye olde PIRATE who can evidently lob 10^30 big (600m) photons per > second across the brine pond is but an amateur in legal matters. > > 73 Arrh me Hearties!!! > Joe VO1NA > > On Fri, 13 Nov 2009, Andy Talbot wrote: > >> And who do you think would bother if you did work one ? >> Who would even care ? >> >> Andy >> www.g4jnt.com >> >> this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny state >> >> >> 2009/11/13 M0FMT >> >>> The whole setup looks decidedly dodgy to me. If they are Pirates how >>> would it affect my license if the opportunity arose for me to work >>> one and I >>> did? The only place I know where I am licensed work a non Amateur >>> station is >>> on 5megs and that can only be a UK Mill station. >>> >>> It's a question of how much you value your license I suppose. >>> >>> 73 petefmt >>> >>> >>> --- On *Fri, 13/11/09, Graham * wrote: >>> >>> >>> From: Graham >>> Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature >>> stations ?? >>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 14:53 >>> >>> Scott >>> >>> SO.... Matter and antimatter cannot coexist at close range for more >>> than a >>> small fraction of a second because they collide with and annihilate >>> each >>> other, releasing large quantities of energy in the form of gamma rays >>> >>> Got it now .. gamma rays are electromagnetic ..hence radio waves are >>> produced .. which may suffer (constructive interference) or >>> (destructive >>> interference) resulting in large variations in amplitude at the >>> point of >>> observation ..... >>> >>> Thanks ! >>> >>> G .. >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Scott Tilley" >>> >>> >>>> >>> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:29 PM >>> To: >>> >>> >>>> >>> Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other >>> amature >>> stations ?? >>> >>>> >>>> Hi John >>>> >>>> VX is in developmental service (same idea as US stations), EI in >>>> amateur >>> service... Like positive and negative antimatter they don't mix. >>>> >>>> 73 Scott >>>> >>>> >>>> John P-G wrote: >>>>> Scott Tilley wrote: >>>>>> Hi Graham >>>>>> >>>>>> All Canadian 600m stations are operating under COMMERCIAL >>>>>> Developmental >>> Licenses and are not able to communicate with the Amateur Service. >>>>> >>>>> So VX9MRC shouldn't be having regular CW QSOs with EI0CF? >>>>> >>>>> Still confused.... >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> GM4SLV >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD052-b994b06ce98339; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:15:09 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD093-b994b06ce98339; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:15:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBX3o-0007qR-U1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:14:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBX3o-0007qA-6a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:14:16 +0000 Received: from out1.ip09ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.245]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBX3l-000365-PE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:14:16 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAKtdBktOlMup/2dsb2JhbADVHoQ8BIFv X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,778,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="235448301" Received: from unknown (HELO your91hoehfy9g) ([78.148.203.169]) by out1.ip09ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 20 Nov 2009 17:13:59 +0000 Message-ID: <001d01ca6a04$dad11770$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <4B06C48F.27981.939B9FD@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:14:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Test transmissions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Right on top of the Russian and other stn DX window. Move down to the low end of the band out of the way. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Dennison" To: Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 4:32 PM Subject: LF: Test transmissions > After a major refurbishment of my lounge/office/shack, I have finally > rebuilt my 136kHz station. > > To check reliability of the Tx at low speeds, I am transmitting using > QRSS30 on 137.776kHz this evening (Friday). Please email if I am > causing QRM to anyone listening for DX. I will switch off at around > 2230UTC. > > Mike, G3XDV > ========= > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df08.mx.aol.com (rly-df08.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.21]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF071-56a4b07140d21f; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:11:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF081-56a4b07140d21f; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:11:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBbgE-0001tW-Lp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:10:14 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBbgE-0001tN-4R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:10:14 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBbgB-00057a-Tm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:10:14 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E9957B804B for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:10:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id F276131E702 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:10:01 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id D1C7418056; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:10:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from 204.129-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (204.129-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.247.129.204]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:10:01 +0100 Message-ID: <20091120231001.q273cf980s048woc@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:10:01 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <20091120141648.8WGQY.1557635.root@mp17> <007f01ca6a1b$34a0b8d0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <009a01ca6a22$07a90470$0517aac0@desktop> <9afca2640911201343q6330c05cxbc250a456fc61952@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9afca2640911201343q6330c05cxbc250a456fc61952@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.247.129.204 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR a QSO mode not just beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Roger for WSPR QSO's you need WSJT7, that beside other modes also supports WSPR. TheWSPR protocol is widened to allow the exchange of report and other =20 information. This in contradiction to the WSPR software where the format is limited =20 to call-locator-power. WSJT7 also does not upload to wsprnet.org and the WSPR software =20 ignores any format that differs from call-locator-power. So a WSPR QSO is really 2-way without any 3rd party (such as =20 wsprnet.org) being involved. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting Roger Lapthorn : > Now I am unclear what really constitutes a WSPR QSO. Does me getting =20 > a WSPR database report from XX3XXX and he getting on from me at =20 > much the same time on the same database constitute a QSO? Or does =20 > it have to be a "real" QSO a bit like JT6m? > > I agree with Rik that an HF contest exchange contains less (mutually =20 > useful) data than either of these. > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > 2009/11/20 James Cowburn =20 > > > Dear All, > > According to the ARRL, WSPR contacts, if verified as two way, will quali= fy > towards DXCC awards as they consider these to be a QSO mode and not simp= ly a > beacon. > > As there is an exchange of callsign, locator and signal strength then th= at > was deemed sufficient by the ARRL to qualify for DXCC and as a QSO in a= data > mode much like RTTY or PSK31 for example. > > This was discussed at the recent RSGB conference in a session on WSPR. > > With best regards > > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: =20 > owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal =20 > hamilton > Sent: 20 November 2009 19:54 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: Re: WD2XES WSPR 136.0 > > Recently there has been an upsurge in wspr BEACON appliance operators an= d > your suggested frequency area is not the place for them. The bottom end > would keep Beacon acty out of the way. There would still be room for the= odd > EU qrs operator, can't say I have heard many in recent years. The freq= area > 137 - 138 k/cs is frequently occupied by Russian and other EU dxers for > inter Country working using CW and QRS and 136.5 - 137 for local CW > working. > NA stns wishing to work EU would still use 137 - 138 on CW and QRS and= not > be clobbered by wspr carriers going ON/OFF. > I hope you see the logic > G3KEV > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > > To: > > Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:16 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Re: WD2XES WSPR 136.0 > > >> Thanks for the suggestion, but I doubt it will cause you any more > interference than it has for the last 5 years. From our perspective, the > lower end of the band has long been reserved for EU to NA operation. >> >> John, W1TAG >> >> ---- mal hamilton =20 >> > wrote: >> > om I woud suggest you Beacon at the extreme bottom end of the band an= d > not >> > in the middle of the CW and QRS DX portion. >> >> > > > > > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG103-a2e4b027e7b26d; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:44:18 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG088-a2e4b027e7b26d; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:44:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NALWp-00021Y-MS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:43:19 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NALWp-00021P-98 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:43:19 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com ([209.85.218.224]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NALWn-0006hc-98 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:43:19 +0000 Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so6682522bwz.30 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:43:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=X6pYfjZ3F02Nn/nWM5CPUGqBOuqxbpUqbRXSFENkST0=; b=eAnDIsMImV/tOl/DETuV5Stk5ENzNaYJQllATAzZ5vo5yDUQao+YqyT17hQuoSNzUg C49vfN+lssEa/3a6Nef3a1JWFTyvdH9hQnjX9ds9CC7P7BcSdIuSfw41r7EmozgG+zfc W7FCGdfFat5FwdKK6oOxAIxKXZp5dXFoysUDo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=c2ucVvtcm5/TtLp9rZvDCf/Vk3LQWiDwvaeeQNdAn02zJTr7HlGVwxZrF2ParNEnId 2EM3DeZthWw4lwnwGTkOa1jDuhPAbs4BzQPn+TxL1jrMkDHDxUaheNkqRoAgEXD5o0ln xoQ0wJy1QWt2hkIHWQyf9vAahbjf+vQxXSb8E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.87.209 with SMTP id y59mr619649wee.21.1258454590941; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:43:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:43:10 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911170243q3b4e2c95kb2668b937e727070@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_10_20=0.945,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 136kHz WSPR tests Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d6454bdbec0804788ecaff X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d302.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0016e6d6454bdbec0804788ecaff Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear all, Very encouraged by my results at 500kHz, I'd like to try some "low ERP" WSPR tests on 136kHz using the same small antenna and transverter (slightly modified). Ideally I'd need stations like M0BMU, M0FMT, G7NKS and others not too far away from JO02dg to TX and to listen out for me, as these stations get a good signal from me on 500kHz. * Please would you let me know if you'd be able to listen and upload 136kHz WSPR spots sometime in the next week or so*? As yet I am not quite ready to start, but I'll let you know when I am. BTW, congratulations to the bigger stations on 500kHz achieving transatlantic QSOs. 73s Roger G3XBM -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --0016e6d6454bdbec0804788ecaff Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all,

Very encouraged by my results at 500kHz, I'd like to= try some "low ERP" WSPR tests on 136kHz using the same small an= tenna and transverter (slightly modified).=A0 Ideally I'd need station= s like M0BMU, M0FMT, G7NKS and others not too far away from JO02dg to TX= and to listen out for me, as these stations get a good signal from me on= 500kHz.

Please would you let me know if you'd be able to listen and upl= oad 136kHz WSPR spots sometime in the next week or so? As yet I am not= quite ready to start, but I'll let you know when I am.

BTW, co= ngratulations to the bigger stations on 500kHz achieving transatlantic QSO= s.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088
--0016e6d6454bdbec0804788ecaff-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (rly-ma02.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.46]) by air-ma08.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMA083-8914b12a77c30b; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:55:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA023-8914b12a77c30b; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:55:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEn2J-0002Fq-1l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:54:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEn2I-0002Fh-FV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:54:10 +0000 Received: from lnx500.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de ([130.83.156.225]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEn2G-00036H-OE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:54:10 +0000 Received: from FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.212.129]) by lnx500.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.14.2/8.14.2/HRZ/PMX) with SMTP id nATGs5J5011740 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:54:05 +0100 (envelope-from schaefer@hst.tu-darmstadt.de) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de) by FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de with AVK MailGateway; for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:54:07 +0100 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:54:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AA6C@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> In-Reply-To: <4B12205C.5020501@tut.by> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: LF: DK7FC/p Thread-Index: AcpwxW2D1zx/0OeDS76vQ0/h4TduIAATjDoA From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= To: X-AVK-Virus-Check: AVB 19.595;29.11.2009 X-PMX-TU: seen v0.99a by 5.5.8.383112, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2009.11.29.164220 X-PMX-SPAMCHECK: outgoing mail X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: AW: LF: DK7FC/p Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hey Andrej, LF Thank you very much! That is a great motivation form e and i will spend ti= me and energy to reach a better RX and then we will surely get a qso!=20 Yesterday, as I have put everything in the car and built it up there on th= e hill in the dark and wind I had a much better feeling since I know that= there are some stns waiting to get the signal! I am very interested in the stn / equipment all the Lowfers have. Is there= a site where one can get the infos? I want to share my fascination (and perhaps motivate some others starting= on LF) and so I put some Infos and pictures on my LF-RIG on my site at qr= z.com. So, cu the next days! 73, Stefan/DK7FC -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org] Im Auftrag von Andrej Gesendet: Sonntag, 29. November 2009 08:19 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: Re: LF: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz Hello Stefan, LF Biggest signal on the band. RST was 559 but no answer on my calls. Maybe next time. Thanks for activity. 73! EW6GB in KO45CN From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB092-ae04b07faee234; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:36:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB086-ae04b07faee234; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:36:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBr3w-0005uJ-TJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:35:44 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBr3w-0005uA-DI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:35:44 +0000 Received: from smtp6.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.191]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBr3u-00018F-JW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:35:44 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3618.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 34AAC7000082 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:35:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3618.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 27DA47000083 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:35:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.58.108]) by mwinf3618.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id D93DD7000082 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:35:36 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091121143536889.D93DD7000082@mwinf3618.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <4B07ABA4.4060102@online.fr> <004601ca6ab3$a160b400$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <004501ca6ab4$9a81dd20$0517aac0@desktop> In-Reply-To: <004501ca6ab4$9a81dd20$0517aac0@desktop> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:35:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Can only dream of working dx like this on cw ... 2009-11-21 13:54 9M3KKR 0.503906 -23 1 OL69 1000 G3ZJO IO92ng 8894 325 mind you after watching the movie ...perhaps machine's can dream as well ? G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "James Cowburn" Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 2:12 PM To: Subject: RE: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO > > How do you know they are unattended? > > > Jim > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton > Sent: 21 November 2009 14:05 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO > > Two unattended machines had a QSO!! Is that what you mean. > g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andy Talbot" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 1:52 PM > Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO > > > CanI suggest you read thoroughly the documentation on how the mode > works before making claims about the database.and validity. The > database can only be updated by stations decoding and reportoing, and > if each QSO partner has a reciprocal report in the database for > near-adjacent time intervals , then they MUST have been in contact > with eachother and cannot be classed as anything bu a valid QSO. Its > impossible to have achieved this in any other way. > > Please read all the documentation first. > > Andy > www.g4jnt.com > > This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health > and safety police > > > > 2009/11/21 Wolf Ostwald : >> Hello group ! >> >> >> >> I am not an expert with WSPR at all. But I followed the discussion > regarding >> false detection of calls thru the database. >> >> To my understanding the WSPR operator has NO way to really find out > whether >> the computer came to the right conclusion about the calls received, or >> whether it just judged by means of plausibility. We humans have no sense > for >> phaseshift, that means we have to believe the machine. >> >> I think that the database in the background is like a walking stick for > the >> blind. >> >> Of course it's a new and exciting technology, but I doubt that it is on > one >> and the same level with a regular exchange and therefore should not be >> considered equally verifying a valid contact. >> >> My two pence worth de wolf df2py >> >> > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg01.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMG013-9f94b1261d3297; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:58:28 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG023-9f94b1261d3297; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:58:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEiOo-0000af-Cr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:57:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEiOn-0000aW-Vw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:57:05 +0000 Received: from out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.244]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEiOn-0001sm-Cr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:57:05 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AugEAFvwEUtOlAkL/2dsb2JhbACCUYtMBsRphDEEgXI X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,307,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="265450737" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([78.148.9.11]) by out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 29 Nov 2009 11:56:59 +0000 Message-ID: <003c01ca70eb$0aa52120$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <2746F3E144D3480AB85CD466920B1313@lindavideo> <003001ca70e7$24aaf3a0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:56:52 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: 4kv diode Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0039_01CA70EB.0A5B46E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01CA70EB.0A5B46E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ken On the serious side, use 6 x 1Kvolt @ 1A in parallel if u are stuck. Don't get zapped=20 73 mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:28 AM Subject: LF: Re: 4kv diode=20 Electric Chair Co Zapenda Cul de sac Hellda State Zip73 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ken=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:04 AM Subject: LF: 4kv diode=20 Hello All. I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or equivalent diode, BY4 4kv @ 1A,= BY6 6kv @ 1A, I have searched the web and looked in Farnell, any ide= as please. 73. Ken M0KHW =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01CA70EB.0A5B46E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ken
On the serious side, use 6 x 1Kvolt= @ 1A in=20 parallel if u are stuck.
Don't get zapped
73 mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mal=20 hamilton
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 20= 09 11:28=20 AM
Subject: LF: Re: 4kv diode

Electric Chair Co
Zapenda Cul de sac
Hellda State
Zip73
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ken
Sent: Sunday, November 29,= 2009 11:04=20 AM
Subject: LF: 4kv diode

Hello All.
I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or= equivalent=20 diode, BY4   4kv @ 1A, BY6  6kv @ 1A, I have search= ed the web=20 and looked in Farnell, any ideas please.
 
73.
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------=_NextPart_000_0039_01CA70EB.0A5B46E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD074-92e4af6fa1f18; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:04:48 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD106-92e4af6fa1f18; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:04:33 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7BAd-0007Py-46 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:03:19 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7BAc-0007Pp-Kh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:03:18 +0000 Received: from smtp828.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.13.163]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7BAa-0005bc-Aw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:03:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 61446 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2009 16:54:57 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=4V4lKZR9EUThGmHmhNI7p8G89GbtCwE4zdEdXKyL3WRc5eSUyr1yMOOusQE3U7/cHn4eWv9j6ZCpAfR5rhW89G8izyyzrJDpPHEkp4kCgMzYWrlsGQ08ga0DEBnORYvXNKAkaB22dxv16NGWVKUer4pY+wfhMa5/GXx/fY7CBk0= ; Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.177.107.201 with login) by smtp828.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 2009 16:54:57 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: qKIhhNCswBB2TTHr2BORWcGGR2mpopxhCcunGIxpCKQYiG07Q7UOhNo- X-YMail-OSG: SYnZXEkVM1nR8uJtlGipnuzIW3vsiegQTjikVM7ccTXWF_Grvul26efQskgdMFY2IDvdhJJ662daq5AhNfL0cPAY5mO_8LErm7ypGtvnqWIYIXVv8BK_ZReuQo.ApmE1UoSlve9Q67myFfPsI1sHXqgLRKTQGKHgDhzbgEr59b_sHiNDjudY_9Yes4H9CQ1oSt6S9NNnsrLgDV94KlM1OlRDhYndiadptN.r4BhgR851ytYlBfVuMmRIM7PH2QGu5kKuhsbzTXma46J59PR2.IyAt9lodPjL3ij5X8JQDJO9pQ7RKS3.GVjfWUsQ1.GAphlc0A-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "James Moritz" To: References: <001b01ca6086$cd0966b0$0617aac0@jimdesk> In-Reply-To: <001b01ca6086$cd0966b0$0617aac0@jimdesk> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:54:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Losses due to ant in tree? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Jim, LF Group, I did some experiments a while back that compared the efficiency of a top-loaded vertical (inverted L about 10m high and 40m long) in an environment surrounded by trees, compared to the same antenna in the middle of an open field. On 500kHz the antenna surrounded by trees was only about 1/6th as efficient as the field antenna, so trees certainly have a major effect. Part of the effect is due to increased loss resistance - the trees being a lossy dielectric in the capacitor formed by the antenna wire and the ground plane. Also, the radiation resistance is reduced (i.e. less field strength for the same antenna current), which I guess was due to induced RF current flowing in the tree in the opposite direction to the current in the vertical section, partly cancelling radiation from the antenna. It was possible to measure a significant fraction of the total antenna current actually flowing in the tree trunks. On 136k, the difference in efficiency was even greater. So I expect the tree has a significant effect, especially since the wire is actually in contact. For my antenna, the wire was kept at least a few m away from any tree, but it was surrounded by several trees. You will probably find moving the antenna wire away from the tree reduces the loss resistance significantly, and it should also lead to an increase in effective height/radiation resistance. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Cowburn" To: Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 3:19 PM Subject: LF: Losses due to ant in tree? > Hi All, > > > > The vertical 5m section of my inverted L runs up into the branches of a > silver birch tree. The wire goes over a large bough at 5m or so and then > comes out of the branches for some 22m down to a 4m high pole attached to > the garage. > > > > Has anyone a guesstimation of the losses in signal caused by running the > wire through the tree? From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me05.mx.aol.com (rly-me05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.39]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME052-9b84affc1599f; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:52:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME054-9b84affc1599f; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:52:43 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9apk-00053b-Rk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:51:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9apk-00053S-G8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:51:44 +0000 Received: from fmmailgate04.web.de ([217.72.192.242]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9apj-0008J7-Rk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:51:44 +0000 Received: from web.de by fmmailgate04.web.de (Postfix) with SMTP id EC0B9620ED7D for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:51:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from [91.55.49.210] by freemailng2503.web.de with HTTP; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:51:36 +0100 Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:51:36 +0100 Message-Id: <1484134848@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: =?iso-8859-15?Q?Horst_St=F6cker?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Organization: http://freemail.web.de/ X-Provags-Id: V01U2FsdGVkX18NnyoqmFYX766mSLbrj30uteavYyGTb2Bhgd5uB5SM99MOI eajMO2ArOxB6Jf+91TydqZMwGtFrD/Bxhj38ltEIhJmTyUCohcDClSfiqpJP g== X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: SP2KDS - Not any idea what the additional signs mean ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Yesterday I sent some captures which show SP2KDS in QRSS3 with a good sign= al - but some addional signs tht I can not interprete. Anyone an idea? Horst _____________________________________________________________ DSL-Preisknaller: DSL-Komplettpakete von WEB.DE schon f=FCr=20 16,99 Euro/mtl.!* Hier klicken: http://produkte.web.de/go/02/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df12.mx.aol.com (rly-df12.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.25]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF052-5934affdbcfa6; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:45:46 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF122-5934affdbcfa6; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:45:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9cau-0005WR-2i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:44:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9cat-0005WI-Dz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:44:31 +0000 Received: from mail-pz0-f177.google.com ([209.85.222.177]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9cas-0000Jn-Ky for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:44:31 +0000 Received: by pzk7 with SMTP id 7so5012843pzk.30 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 02:44:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ZDSOx0Cxv8hTFO0+VZcuR5+1nJhBfY962jlfemTaCJw=; b=qUBX1kPCcMRlZ1+P+8EQS6OqqdZuej5CvnvKd3gTO4EFgML5S1W/1WlbBLAezwjq+r i7xuOMs5j7ESLckSltNm8AT8PAq40K70eYkyS0rRUmSQjvzdB02LJZmg/yhgpisO6Oet 5K2QlNwYfxHFmE3UFf4vl0jWoLLD5abC0WQZw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=IfPQUD/bJbkKNihR+mJDJxLCvdEkL3toNXh5sXWg9+NZhqMml68Sqi6WGL0h48vRXY pRGHUS9MCCeFuV83NmeR+y2QPNdnW5OtoLDoHwkXIg0dOR7Y3A7RsDnfYDpUQDQ2EZGs TNQNcJ3asiiIJmJex8JMGFfDyao5dS5rmWbpw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.194.6 with SMTP id r6mr168002rvf.2.1258281862485; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 02:44:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091115112410.27d3dldtj44k4sk4@webmail6.kuleuven.be> References: <20091115112410.27d3dldtj44k4sk4@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:44:22 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 50a0be386b0dd117 Message-ID: <1f0624b90911150244p1c8ccbd7p47cc3b33eb270b2@mail.gmail.com> From: Gary - G4WGT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Who / where is OR2ELN ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd2114e70d54804786693d0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m263.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0cd2114e70d54804786693d0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Rik, Graham, I also got false decode last night that looked genuine but searches revealed nothing. 091114 1958 5 -28 0.5 0.503998 WE6HMU JJ11 20 0 560 -32 091114 1958 8 -22 -1.1 0.503999 WE6HMU JJ11 20 0 560 0 JJ11 also in the water but off the west coast of Africa, perhaps the pirate has a fast boat :-)) Cheers, Gary - G4WGT. 2009/11/15 Rik Strobbe > Graham, > > the call OR2ELN does not exist > if it is a pirate he is floating in the Indian Ocean somewhe half way > between Madagascar and Heard Island. > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > Quoting Graham : > > 2009-11-14 23:14 OR2ELN 0.503908 -33 0 >> MF03 501 G0NBD IO83 11740 326 >> >> Just decoded ? >> >> tnx - G >> >> >> >> >> > > > --000e0cd2114e70d54804786693d0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Rik, Graham,

I also got false decode last night that= looked genuine but searches revealed nothing.

091114 1958 =A0 5 -28 =A00.5 =A0 0.503998 =A0WE6HMU JJ11 20 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0 =A00 =A0 560 =A0-32
091114 1958 =A0 8 -22 -1.1 =A0 0.503999 =A0WE6HMU JJ11 20 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0 =A00 =A0 560 =A0 =A00

JJ11 also in the water= but off the west coast of Africa, perhaps the pirate has a fast boat :-))=

Cheers,

Gary - G4WGT.

2009/11/15 Rik Strobbe <= Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be= >
Graham,

the call OR2ELN does not exist
if it is a pirate he is floating in the Indian Ocean somewhe half way betw= een Madagascar and Heard Island.

73, Rik =A0ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:

=A02009-11-14 23:14 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0OR2ELN =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A00.503908 =A0= =A0 =A0 =A0-33 =A0 =A0 0 =A0 =A0 =A0 MF03 =A0 =A0501 =A0 =A0 G0NBD =A0= IO83 =A0 =A011740 =A0 326

Just =A0decoded ?

tnx - G








--000e0cd2114e70d54804786693d0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg08.mx.aol.com (rly-dg08.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.92]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG072-5e44b045f26218; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:55:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG083-5e44b045f26218; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:55:03 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NArXN-0004pt-Lz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:54:01 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NArXN-0004pk-3S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:54:01 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NArXL-0005CO-1L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:54:01 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 124C951C009 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:53:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from ICTS-S-HUB-N4.luna.kuleuven.be (icts-s-hub-n4.luna.kuleuven.be [10.112.9.14]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2FA931E702 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:53:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from ICTS-S-EXC2-CA.luna.kuleuven.be ([10.112.11.13]) by ICTS-S-HUB-N4.luna.kuleuven.be ([10.112.9.14]) with mapi; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:53:48 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:52:52 +0100 Thread-Topic: Re: 500kHz in Belgium Thread-Index: AcpoZdEl0TJYWvHET666OTmo2v1sGAAK0bYS Message-ID: References: <20091118085815.7282031E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <477782.43526.qm@web28104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <20091118102656.11BAD31E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <20091118145534.2BE5D31E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be>,<002201ca6865$1c55a180$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> In-Reply-To: <002201ca6865$1c55a180$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Accept-Language: nl-NL, nl-BE Content-Language: nl-BE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: nl-NL, nl-BE MIME-Version: 1.0 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: Re: 500kHz in Belgium Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_BF4A524700075746A6467658DFC7102C127F47964DICTSSEXC2CAlu_" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_000_BF4A524700075746A6467658DFC7102C127F47964DICTSSEXC2CAlu_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.itu.int/ITU-R/asp/terminology-definition.asp?lang=3Den&rlink=3D= {AA1D0B6B-97AB-403D-B2C0-136FF09F8422} ________________________________ Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] namens mal hamilton [g3kevmal@talktalk.net] Verzonden: woensdag 18 november 2009 16:38 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: LF: Re: 500kHz in Belgium Rik What ITU document contains the definition that digital modes are telegraph= y. The official handbook issued by HM STATIONARY OFFICE for radio officers= states that telegraphy is on/off keyed morse code ie CW and MCW and telephony a voice transmission. Other permitted modes fall into a diff= erent category. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 2:55 PM Subject: LF: 500kHz in Belgium All, over the past weeks I received several questions wether ECC Recommendation= T/R 61-01 includes 501-504kHz in Belgium. I asked BIPT (our Ofcom, FCC, ...) and received this answer (in Dutch) : Een buitenlandse titularis van een HAREC vergunning mag onder dezelfde voo= rwaarden als de Belgische radioamateurs alle toegelaten klassen van uitzen= ding en alle frequenties gebruiken. Dan mag hij ook de frequentieband 501-504 kHz gebruiken. English translation: A foreign holder of a HAREC licence may operate under the same conditions= as Belgian radio amateurs, using all approved modes and frequencies. This includes the frequency range 501-504kHz. So it is legal to operate as ON/PAxxx/P, ON/Fxxxx/P, ON/Gxxxx/P etc. Restrictions (that of course also apply to our foreign guests): - 501-504kHz - NIB - max. 5W EIRP (not ERP !) - max. 100Hz bandwidth - only telegraphy (as per ITU definition, thus includes digital text modes= ) 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T --_000_BF4A524700075746A6467658DFC7102C127F47964DICTSSEXC2CAlu_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshee= p.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] namens mal hamilton [g3kevmal@t= alktalk.net]
Verzonden: woensdag 18 november 2009 16:38
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: LF: Re: 500kHz in Belgium

Rik
What ITU document contains the defini= tion that digital modes are telegraphy. The official handbook issued by HM= STATIONARY OFFICE for radio officers states that telegraphy is on/off key= ed morse code ie CW and MCW
and telephony a voice transmission.= Other permitted modes fall into a different category.
G3KEV
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009= 2:55 PM
Subject: LF: 500kHz in Belgium

All,

over the past weeks I received several questions wether ECC Recommendation= T/R 61-01 includes 501-504kHz in Belgium.

I asked BIPT (our Ofcom, FCC, ...) and received this answer (in Dutch) :
Een buitenlandse titularis van een HAREC vergun= ning mag onder dezelfde voorwaarden als de Belgische radioamateurs alle to= egelaten klassen van uitzending en alle frequenties gebruiken.
Dan mag hij ook de frequentieband 501-504 kHz gebruiken.

English translation:
A foreign holder of a HAREC licence may operate under the same conditio= ns as Belgian radio amateurs, using all approved modes and frequencies. This includes the frequency range 501-504kHz.

So it is legal to operate as ON/PAxxx/P, ON/Fxxxx/P, ON/Gxxxx/P etc. Restrictions (that of course also apply to our foreign guests):
- 501-504kHz
- NIB
- max. 5W EIRP (not ERP !)
- max. 100Hz bandwidth
- only telegraphy (as per ITU definition, thus includes digital text modes= )

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
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autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500 dx Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0043_01CA5B1F.917247A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01CA5B1F.917247A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Any DX stns about tonite? mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01CA5B1F.917247A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Any DX stns about tonite?
mal/g3kev
 
------=_NextPart_000_0043_01CA5B1F.917247A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD094-b984b0cfe8829f; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:53:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD092-b984b0cfe8829f; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:53:14 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDEXh-0001zC-KR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:52:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDEXh-0001z3-6B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:52:09 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s4.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.15]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDEXg-0008Gv-9O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:52:09 +0000 Received: from BLU146-DS1 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s4.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:52:01 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [221.198.50.198] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: To: Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:52:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Nov 2009 09:52:01.0643 (UTC) FILETIME=[EFB1D3B0:01CA6DB4] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: XKOs freq Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0111_01CA6DB4.EEFCB480" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0111_01CA6DB4.EEFCB480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A rather noisy shot of a signal on XKO's freq which faded out/stopped= shortly thereafter. Running dot 60 slow so things a bit compressed at= dot 30 tx speed. Laurence KL1X WE2XPQ Wasilla Palmer Alaska OM89UA http://kl1x.com/screen.html ------=_NextPart_000_0111_01CA6DB4.EEFCB480 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
A rather noisy shot of a signal on XKO's fre= q which=20 faded out/stopped shortly thereafter. Running dot 60 slow so things a= bit=20 compressed at dot 30 tx speed.
 
Laurence KL1X WE2XPQ Wasilla Palmer Alaska= =20 OM89UA
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0111_01CA6DB4.EEFCB480-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg07.mx.aol.com (rly-dg07.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.91]) by air-dg06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG063-5dd4af7283436a; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:21:23 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG076-5dd4af7283436a; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:21:10 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7EFE-0000eM-Cd for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:20:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7EFD-0000eD-MI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:20:15 +0000 Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com ([205.188.105.144]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7EFB-0006RK-0m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:20:15 +0000 Received: from imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (imo-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.136]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nA8KJtjo018919 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:19:55 -0500 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id l.c3a.6117a4a0 (30739) for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:19:51 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:19:51 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: F4DTL@aol.com X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: RE: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1257711591" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, LINES_OF_YELLING,LINES_OF_YELLING_2,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1257711591 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Congratulations Chris. =20 =20 F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP _http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/)=20 =20 =20 =20 Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 08/11/2009 19:45:36 Paris, Madrid, =20 james.cowburn@virgin.net a =E9crit : LF It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m. This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 600m /= =20 80m. Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0CF= -=20 No. 998. QSO break-down according to mode: 928 CW, 34 RTTY and 5 QRSS 600m STATIONS My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many= of=20 these go back to the start of the UK 600m allocation in March 2007. Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding=20 beacons). Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of=20 again: G3KZU, G3YHV . . . Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT: G3UNT,=20 G3VTT, G4GDR. . . MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the same=20 stations many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of my total= =20 contacts. My most frequently worked stations are: GW3UEP - 120 G3KEV - 102 M0FMT - 90 G3ZWH - 80 (alas now= =20 SK) G3DXZ - 67 G4GDR - 60 EI0CF/ GI4DPE - 51 M0JXM - 48 G3UNT - 45 G3VTT - 38 CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a=20 cross-band QSO: DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . . and our few EU MF friends are still active: ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . . WSPR ON 600m I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for the WSP= R=20 mode was never achieved for hand sent Morse (CW), which after all is the= =20 mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF marine band. If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stations=20 operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band then I= guess=20 it may be time for me to QSY. 73 Chris G3XIZ -------------------------------1257711591 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= FONT id=3Drole_document color=3D#000000 size=3D2 face=3DArial>
Congratulations Chris.
 
 
 
 
Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 08/11/2009 19:45:36 Paris, Madrid,=20 james.cowburn@virgin.net a =E9crit :
LF

It was a red-letter day today as I achieved=20 my 1000th QSO using 600m.
This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtu= ally=20 all of which were 600m / 80m.

Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with= =20 runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0CF - No. 998.

QSO break-down=20 according to mode:     928 CW,  34 RTTY =20 and   5 QRSS

600m STATIONS

My personal 60= 0m=20 (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many of these go back to=20 the start of the UK  600m allocation in March 2007.
Of these I= have=20 worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding beacons).
Many= =20 stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of again:&= nbsp;=20 G3KZU, G3YHV . . .
Others were once very active but have subsequently= gone=20 QRT:  G3UNT, G3VTT, G4GDR. . .

MOST FREQUENTLY=20 WORKED

With so few active operators it is obvious that one wi= ll=20 work the same stations many times and the top 10 stations account for 70= % of=20 my total contacts.
My most frequently worked stations are:

GW3= UEP -=20 120     G3KEV - 102      M0= FMT -=20 90     G3ZWH  -  80  (alas now=20 SK)
G3DXZ    -   67    = G4GDR=20 -   60      EI0CF/ GI4DPE  -&nbs= p;=20 51   M0JXM - 48
G3UNT    -  =20 45     G3VTT  -   38

CROSS-= BAND=20 AND EU STATIONS

There are a few 'regular' stations who listen= to=20 600m and enjoy a cross-band QSO:
DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE,= G3TVF=20 . . .

and our few EU MF friends are still active:
ON4KTJ, OR7T= and=20 OZ8NJ. . .

WSPR ON 600m

I personally find it sad th= at the=20 present level of enthusiasm for the WSPR mode was never achieved for&nbs= p;=20 hand sent Morse (CW), which after all is the mode which I call to mind= when=20 thinking of the old MF marine band.
If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase la= sts,=20 with more and stronger stations operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segme= nt=20 which is the 600m band then I guess it may be time for me to QSY.
73=20 Chris G3XIZ


 
 
 -------------------------------1257711591-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME104-9c04b012f6b271; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:54:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME064-9c04b012f6b271; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:54:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9zD4-0004eE-QH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:53:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9zD4-0004e5-EK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:53:26 +0000 Received: from mailout03.t-online.de ([194.25.134.81]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9zD3-0007Th-Ts for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:53:26 +0000 Received: from fwd09.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.t-online.de with smtp id 1N9zD2-0001QJ-04; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:53:24 +0100 Received: from e7010 (VgiTYOZFrh5u5wayT6wIETxUhiTK1SEGE6LRkYivkHCSQYJGngKXecwqp-INGY2gn+@[84.147.194.63]) by fwd09.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1N9zCr-20NKVc0; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:53:13 +0100 Message-ID: <001001ca66aa$ff8e26a0$6402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:53:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: VgiTYOZFrh5u5wayT6wIETxUhiTK1SEGE6LRkYivkHCSQYJGngKXecwqp-INGY2gn+ X-TOI-MSGID: df7c3647-cd31-4cbc-bc70-e5530aec7bf4 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001,UPPERCASE_50_75=0.591 Subject: LF: DI2AG WSPR last night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01CA66B3.5F55AD30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01CA66B3.5F55AD30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear MF, mni tnx to all reporters last night: SQ2BXI, GM4SLV, G7JVN, F6C= NI, DJ6LB, PA8SWL, SQ7MPJ, RN3AGC (1896Km, new EU-ODX for me), DB1NN,= PA3FNY, DL4RAJ. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01CA66B3.5F55AD30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear MF,
      = mni tnx to all=20 reporters last night: SQ2BXI, GM4SLV, G7JVN, F6CNI, DJ6LB, PA8SWL, SQ7= MPJ,=20 RN3AGC (1896Km, new EU-ODX for me), DB1NN, PA3FNY, DL4RAJ.
73   Walter  DI2AG /= =20 DJ2LF
 
------=_NextPart_000_000D_01CA66B3.5F55AD30-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc12.mx.aol.com (rly-mc12.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.96]) by air-mc04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC043-dae4aff0e363e7; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:08:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC126-dae4aff0e363e7; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:08:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9OuC-0000dW-IC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:07:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9OuC-0000dN-42 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:07:32 +0000 Received: from mx01.infotech.at ([213.174.240.1]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9OuA-0005xY-KH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:07:32 +0000 Received: from [213.174.255.55] by mx01.infotech.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9Ou9-0006Ow-GW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:07:29 +0100 Message-ID: <4AFF0E3B.90402@inext.at> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:08:27 +0100 From: Oberreiter Oswald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 137kHz grabber in SP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) HalloJacek! your grabber works very good thank you . 73 de ossy oe5odl jn68rd Jacek Lipkowski schrieb: > I've set up a temporary 137kHz grabber. QTH is Warsaw, Poland KO02md. > RX is an ex-DDR EKV03 with a mini-whip active antenna. Currently it is > set for QRSS3. It is in a nice mid-point between active grabbers in DL > and RU. > > The url is http://acid.ch.pw.edu.pl/~sq5bpf/grabber/ > > This area has high qrm, so if you see yourself on the grabber - > congratulations :) > > I will leave it on all night in case anyone is interested, later it > will be avaliable upon request. > > VY 73 > > Jacek / SQ5BPF > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA082-8ca4aff12313d1; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:25:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA094-8ca4aff12313d1; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:25:22 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9PAU-0000qs-Ke for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:24:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9PAU-0000qj-3Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:24:22 +0000 Received: from out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.237]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9PAT-0007lB-Im for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:24:22 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAOqg/kpcGumJ/2dsb2JhbACCT4FqhQ+ESwbEaYQ8BA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,742,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="93585382" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([92.26.233.137]) by out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 14 Nov 2009 20:24:14 +0000 Message-ID: <02d101ca6568$7254e190$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:24:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: VX9mrc Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02CE_01CA6568.7203DB60" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_02CE_01CA6568.7203DB60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable VX9MRC active since 1950 utc beacon on 507.5 CW De g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_02CE_01CA6568.7203DB60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
VX9MRC active since 1950 utc beacon= on 507.5=20 CW
De g3kev
 
------=_NextPart_000_02CE_01CA6568.7203DB60-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (rly-ma06.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.50]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA042-8af4b09b1d72ac; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:49:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA061-8af4b09b1d72ac; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:49:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCKHg-0005hc-9D for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:47:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCKHf-0005hT-Tk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:47:51 +0000 Received: from mx34.mail.ru ([94.100.176.48]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCKHf-0006C3-9v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:47:51 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=1912 helo=EFREMOV) by mx34.mail.ru with asmtp id 1NCKHY-000EhF-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:47:44 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <001201ca6bbd$6ca27ea0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: References: <002301ca6b5d$7f214da0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <8bf118410911221025o2c42e9c3x35576a9d1a9056f5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:47:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: G3YXM qrss10 (qso with SP2KDS) Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dave, I with pleasure. But the transmitter is faulty. I repair. 73 Andrey > That looks very good! > Maybe we could work one day? > > Dave. > > 2009/11/22 Andrey rn3agc > >> Hello Dave, LF, >> Capture last night at 23.32z >> >> 73 Andrey > > > > > -- > G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME054-9a54af4a87ed8; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:51:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME031-9a54af4a87ed8; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:51:44 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6Xdm-00073A-15 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:50:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6Xdl-000731-DW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:50:45 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6Xce-0000xF-GB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:49:37 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 06 Nov 2009 22:50:36 -0000 Received: from p5DD343BB.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO Clemens04) [93.211.67.187] by mail.gmx.net (mp011) with SMTP; 06 Nov 2009 23:50:36 +0100 X-Authenticated: #17214767 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/XhmV9SyrXdmQLxLiXbziPlHiZPNIlnhCD+6bwsj UohNcUHgyW2oz5 Message-ID: <00f101ca5f33$8eb703d0$0201a8c0@Clemens04> From: "Clemens Paul" To: References: <9afca2640911061433l70bfd8ddi30af83033ea5bbec@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 23:50:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.55,0.55 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR overnight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00ED_01CA5F3B.EEB292B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00ED_01CA5F3B.EEB292B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger, nothing to see/decode from you so far. I'll let my rx stay qrv over night,too. But I'm afraid you're still too weak by maybe ~6dB. 73 Clemens DL4RAJ ----- Original Message ----- From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 11:33 PM Subject: LF: 500kHz WSPR overnight Will leave the 500kHz 1mW ERP WSPR beacon running through the night at 10% TX and we'll see what happens. Any reports, especially from DL or SM would be great. 73s Roger G3XBM -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.52/2484 - Release Date: 11/06/09 07:38:00 ------=_NextPart_000_00ED_01CA5F3B.EEB292B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Roger,
 
nothing to see/decode from you so far= .
I'll let my rx stay qrv over=20 night,too.
But I'm afraid you're still too= weak by maybe=20 ~6dB.
 
73
Clemens
DL4RAJ
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 06, 20= 09 11:33=20 PM
Subject: LF: 500kHz WSPR over= night

Will leave the 500kHz 1mW ERP WSPR beacon running thr= ough the=20 night at 10% TX and we'll see what happens.

Any reports, espe= cially=20 from DL or SM would be great.

73s
Roger G3XBM

--=20
-------------------------------------------------------------http://g3xbm-qrp.blogs= pot.com/
http://www.g3xb= m.co.uk
G3XBM  =20  GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AV= G -=20 www.avg.com
Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.52/2484 -= Release=20 Date: 11/06/09 07:38:00
------=_NextPart_000_00ED_01CA5F3B.EEB292B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (rly-mf02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.172]) by air-mf01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF014-9474b0473321cb; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:20:44 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF025-9474b0473321cb; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:20:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAss8-0005Fq-Fc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:19:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAss8-0005Fh-3y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:19:32 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAss6-0005gS-Fd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:19:32 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A0334C812C for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:19:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 115CD4C80D9 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:19:25 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B0472EC.9020806@online.fr> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:19:24 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: blacksheep X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: LF T/A [137kHz] WD2XGJ last night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Warren , Very good copy of your beacon last night . 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME094-9cf4b0066942a9; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:37:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME083-9cf4b0066942a9; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:37:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9lpu-0001KA-IL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:36:38 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9lpu-0001K1-5L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:36:38 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9lps-0001Mf-NQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 2334 45 mW drive to the antenna .. slight problem zeroing the meter as there is 60 uW of energy coming back in from the atu .... so thats about -10 dB down on the previous level G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "John P-G" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 7:18 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Running mW wspr > > > > Graham wrote: > >> >> Crazy system ..... spot just in from John ! > > > I thought your mW signal was meant to be a challenge, but of course > Roger's already discovered that WSPR will decode signals that you can't > hear, and are often so weak on a waterfall that QRSS3 would be a struggle > (despite what someone here repeatedly fails to comprehend) > > Can you go any lower? > > John > GM4SLV > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb11.mx.aol.com (rly-mb11.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.169]) by air-mb03.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMB033-d3a4b0b9e5c36a; 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boundary="Boundary_(ID_05w64EbD0oCD/7kbGXTJtw)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --Boundary_(ID_05w64EbD0oCD/7kbGXTJtw) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_jbr//rA6hSAI5nn8Ggs+1g)" --Boundary_(ID_jbr//rA6hSAI5nn8Ggs+1g) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi LF capture ODL, strong signal, henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: ODL 24-11.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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Hi LF
capture ODL,
strong signal,
henny pa3cpm
73s
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<001b01ca6b7b$f31c2d60$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: References: <4B080470.21349.E1B42C9@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:58:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: More tests on 136k Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01CA6B7B.E6C06B80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 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(webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D751F3862 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:29:53 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id 093D018056; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:29:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from 121.141-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (121.141-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.247.141.121]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:29:52 +0100 Message-ID: <20091110192952.h8jck4a5wkwgg0s4@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:29:52 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <112811.74996.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001b01ca6225$fcddd970$0617aac0@jimdesk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.247.141.121 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Dennis, WSPR outside the 504.000 - 503.800 segment makes little sense, so a =20 possible QSY can be only 100 Hz or so. But what xtal frequencies do you need to get away from the top end of =20 the band? If you let me know I'll have a look in my xtal-box and if I find some =20 you can use I will be happy to send them to you. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting DENNIS EASTERLING : > Hi Jim > > I was speaking figuratively as you are so near and on my xtl =20 > frequency. My comment was directed at Chris' statment in email =20 > subject1000 QSOs, who also suffers and others who have complained =20 > about beacons in general. In fact the band is often dead for hours =20 > on end and it is nice to find any signal, beacon or QSO, especially =20 > when testing. My point is that is there should be room for both =20 > beacons and QSOs, then follows a suggestion that LFrs may like to =20 > come to some agreement about reserving a section for each mode. > > Hoping I did not offend, 73 Dennis M0JXM > ----- Original Message ----- > From: James Cowburn > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 4:51 PM > Subject: LF: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO > > Hi Dennis > > I did not realize I was causing you QRM. A quick e-mail would have =20 > alerted me to it, rather than me being a =E2=80=9Cpain=E2=80=9D. I=E2= =80=99m happy to work =20 > out a compromise where we operate at separate times or if you =20 > suggest a different frequency for me to work on. Just drop me a line =20 > with your ideas on this. > > With best regards > > > Jim > > > Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS > ________________________________ > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =20 > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of DENNIS =20 > EASTERLING > Sent: 10 November 2009 16:13 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO > > Congratulations Chris. > > Most wspr stations seem to congregate at the top end of the band and =20 > are not too much trouble. Jim G7NKS is the biggest pain as he =20 > sits on my xtl frequency and is so close. Maybe a compromise would =20 > be for people using beacons to keep to one segment of the band =20 > (hopefully not 502.2 kHz -hee) > > 73 Dennis M0JXM > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Chris Osborn > To: LF Group > Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 6:03 PM > Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO > > LF > > It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m. > This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 600m= / 80m. > > Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and =20 > EI0CF - No. 998. > > QSO break-down according to mode: 928 CW, 34 RTTY and 5 QRSS > > 600m STATIONS > > My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and =20 > many of these go back to the start of the UK 600m allocation in =20 > March 2007. > Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding =20 > beacons). > Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard =20 > of again: G3KZU, G3YHV . . . > Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT: G3UNT, =20 > G3VTT, G4GDR. . . > > MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED > > With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the =20 > same stations many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of =20 > my total contacts. > My most frequently worked stations are: > > GW3UEP - 120 G3KEV - 102 M0FMT - 90 G3ZWH - 80 (alas now= SK) > G3DXZ - 67 G4GDR - 60 EI0CF/ GI4DPE - 51 M0JXM - 48 > G3UNT - 45 G3VTT - 38 > > CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS > > There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a =20 > cross-band QSO: > DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . . > > and our few EU MF friends are still active: > ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . . > > WSPR ON 600m > > I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for =20 > the WSPR mode was never achieved for hand sent Morse (CW), which =20 > after all is the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old =20 > MF marine band. > If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger =20 > stations operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the =20 > 600m band then I guess it may be time for me to QSY. > > 73 Chris G3XIZ > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de12.mx.aol.com (rly-de12.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.148]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE054-51d4b03bfb9d0; 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Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:33:51 +0000 Received: from [81.109.247.175] (helo=jimdesk) by know-smtpout-2.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAgv5-0008Bd-TS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:33:48 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: References: <017801ca66fb$0bf91c60$0517aac0@jimdesk> <20091118085815.7282031E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:33:45 -0000 Message-ID: <02ac01ca6832$39e82890$0517aac0@jimdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <20091118085815.7282031E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> Thread-Index: AcpoLaaEa7b9UMVTSgOv0Q6VYiRYnAAAKy4w X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=8RloEfZUAAAA:8 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=NAjYI1cMXw13GntXfi8A:9 a=q5zkz_p8tI4XpMDHV2IA:7 a=sK0Q5MFv77prhU-_cybrQlD6UrAA:4 a=O58u2wXj750A:10 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=wkTAzZ2vfLFfbRJr:21 a=PLH5rTZwQLgkaZ02:21 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Rik That's exactly what mine are. I think it's a mixture of stretching the Pa on the IC735 so its at the edge of its envelope (the radio equivalent of a stick shaker or stall horn on a plane!) and also RF leakage and mains leakage into the soundcard system on the Dell lappy. It's only apparent on Rx and Tx of strong/local signals where the fundamental is so high (>0db) that the first side lobes at -30dB are still within WSPR capture range. It's mainly an issue with reports from M0FMT (his fault for living so close to me...hi hi ) and from M0BMU (his fault for having such a good 500 set up and helping me to get on the band in the first case! Just joking Jim) I can cure it by winding back the power a chunk but then I am limiting myself Dx wise. Last night I received my first transatlantic stations W1xxx and AA1A. I think my antenna mods and good condx really helped. My next challenge is to get >1000km and then T/A as well as doing some more CW QSO's. I will try and get a QSO with Mal perhaps Actually my first challenge is to keep my antennas up in the 30kt wind that is blowing around here today!! With best regards Jim G7NKS Dr. James Cowburn E james.cowburn@virgin.net -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe Sent: 18 November 2009 08:58 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands Hello Jim, LF group, I have noticed "double receptions" of my WSPR signal from a number of stations. When it occurred the ghost signal was always 100Hz higher and was 33-36dB weaker. As the frequency shift and signal strength difference was the same at the different RX stations I conclude that the cause was with me. I think that it is just some AM modulation in the PA caused by the 100Hz ripple of the PSU. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T At 02:13 18/11/2009, you wrote: >Dear Jim LF Group, > >Looking at the sidebands on the G7NKS WSPR signals, mains hum or other noise >by itself is not a sufficient explanation of what is seen. Simply adding >50Hz, 150Hz, etc. noise into the PC audio channel, then feeding the result >into an SSB TX would give unwanted CW at frequencies offset from the SSB >carrier frequency by +/-50Hz, 150Hz and so on, i.e. with the carrier "dial >frequency" at 502.4kHz, unmodulated carriers would appear at 502.45kHz, >502.55kHz and so on, in addition to the WSPR signal at around 503.9kHz. >However, these would probably largely be removed by the SSB filter in the >rig. Instead, we see unwanted sidebands offset from the wanted WSPR signal >frequency by +/- 50Hz, 150Hz, with identical modulation to the wanted >signal. This requires some sort of non-linear process to cause the >intermodulation between the presumed mains noise and the WSPR signal >somewhere in the TX chain. > >One possibility is that intermodulation occurs in the PA. Jim's description >suggests that he is persuading the HF PA in the IC735 to produce output at >500k. At this frequency, the PA linearity may well be poor due to the >impedance matching, coupling, decoupling and feedback components in the PA >being wrong for the frequency, and high flux densities occuring in ferrite >components due to the low operating frequency. But this wouldn't explain why >Jim also gets multiple received signals from a strong station with a clean >signal, which implies some identical noise source and distortion in the >receive path. It would also mean the mains noise getting through the >filtering in the rig somehow. > >A possibility that would explain the unwanted sidebands appearing on both TX >and RX signals is if one of the oscillators in the system has mains noise >sidebands. The sound card clock seems unlikely, since this is just a simple >crystal oscillator. I see the IC735 has some sort of multi-loop PLL >synthesiser, which would certainly be prone to this type of spurious signal, >since any kind of mains noise getting in would modulate the VCO frequencies, >and would probably be the same on transmit and receive. This could be >checked by receiving a clean carrier somewhere around 500kHz, and examining >the audio output using Spec Lab or Argo or similar to see if 50Hz and 150Hz >sidebands are present on the received audio tone. > >Cheers, Jim Moritz >73 de M0BMU > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "James Cowburn" >To: >Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:26 PM >Subject: LF: rule #2 - assumption is the brother of all foul ups > > > > LF > > > > > > > > Sidebands are back! I think its caused by my TX getting hot and bothered > > by > > struggling at 500. From cold it txs 50 watts but this soon drops back to > > around 35, and the sidebands appear. My sigs are better so having the > > txfr > > outside the shack and at the antenna is a vast improvement, but I now need > > to work on the cooling. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (rly-mf07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.177]) by air-mf05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF054-96c4b067edc133; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:35:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF072-96c4b067edc133; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:34:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBRkR-0005d6-B7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:33:55 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBRkQ-0005cx-SD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:33:54 +0000 Received: from web28106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBRkQ-0000Ly-Oj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:33:54 +0000 Received: (qmail 52981 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Nov 2009 11:33:49 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1258716829; bh=FkmGE+WErPWtCijCaXW7S9QzklpWTAWgscWBais5QDc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dm0gK9q8z0QGsuhBSjX2mGV+lwBW/NJAhwCzXyXFLpwfNboqMxnS6FERAxT5AjR5JaeJ9YXmkP3GHjPsS5lJqdboOUN/AqF5i64hqAVfsP2MSqjuKIfKhEvowUiXQt98Hr5STlU3DNkK3990IdH5XOaiTC6N4p+ulcaAlFfKt2Q= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kJq5958ZCD35WNOrYCJOW10XrkkXFCokq/Gv+B/t7pYFfNEER0U3KRIb+ULN4XcwJe1607lG1yOM0g5O/KL0W7fwvrYVtgX+7HgaklHmLk695y3ju52BBykG3JcXV8GelyPDgLuJlCSmWV2u19XKOwqgTdntq+6zAvayfz+LOkc=; Message-ID: <492835.52192.qm@web28106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: RF.zhtcVM1kJY7RKlBfcC5Ln6Q.zggV7f5NsAHOH6rBqHJt_lPBazltQYuYbNSp1XosXFS2XuvSTib9NO3k8LwhySjHyqXMt8sixFyV1wIxyFl3UsHhHKTg6gyUkzVLcvNrUUdqQGCBl7poYKwuTsXZbcyX23RBOvoKJNx4clOCf7uk4Yd6oUKw5Hkqk3ccRAQkkxRcsCHLJOi0Gsf5gDlUal3BajjeITR0rku5XfnVKKGd_8fYGScM.tlZEyRPrBDamFw5rnL_PHD44l7GiCTLtN43ecnWOZlkbfmicfSC6ZbYoz8xUKH7ZavYWt6dF5oFSlcLL0HA- Received: from [86.140.72.176] by web28106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:33:49 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:33:49 -0800 (PST) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <4B05EDBF.6090006@telus.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: 'Sporadic incidents' Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1051627093-1258716829=:52192" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m286.1 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-1051627093-1258716829=:52192 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Scott =A0 So we still treat all these beacon only=A0licenced stations out of North= America=A0as Pirates if they try a two-way QSO, as far as UK experimental= licence holders are concerned....... eh? =A0 Probably our authority is ambivalent so long as we don't operate out of ba= nd as I think some has already said on this reflector. =A0 Thanks for the info and the Canadian insight. =A0 73 es gl petefmt =A0 =A0 =A0 --- On Fri, 20/11/09, Scott Tilley wrote: From: Scott Tilley Subject: LF: 'Sporadic incidents' To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Friday, 20 November, 2009, 1:15 Hi All Industry Canada has ruled... See the 600m Buttulator for the latest emission... Good day eh? Scott VE7TIL CN89dk http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/ =20 --0-1051627093-1258716829=:52192 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Scott
 
So we still treat all these beacon only licenced stations out of= North America as Pirates if they try a two-way QSO, as far as UK exp= erimental licence holders are concerned....... eh?
 
Probably our authority is ambivalent so long as we don't operate out= of band as I think some has already said on this reflector.
 
Thanks for the info and the Canadian insight.
 
73 es gl petefmt
 
 
 

--- On Fri, 20/11/09, Scott Tilley <sthed47= 5@telus.net> wrote:

From: Scott Tilley <sthed475@telus.net><= BR>Subject: LF: 'Sporadic incidents'
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgDate: Friday, 20 November, 2009, 1:15

Hi All

Industry Canada has ruled...

S= ee the 600m Buttulator for the latest emission...

Good day eh?
S= cott
VE7TIL CN89dk
http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/



=20 --0-1051627093-1258716829=:52192-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df12.mx.aol.com (rly-df12.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.25]) by air-df02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF022-5934af9914a2bf; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:14:18 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF122-5934af9914a2bf; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:14:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7tL9-0007Y3-FW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:13:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7tL8-0007Xu-Uo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:13:06 +0000 Received: from smtp817.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.246]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7tKL-0007YK-R7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:12:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 49887 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2009 16:12:59 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=4IDS3RjlbWxoxeAgOLsnQ4oNLfl4UeGEo2dUezCtHaHnjpU/8hA4dVi2oIgi3vpoBQX32OyPzDoWZKifXVLYxbkMSfg3fouppUKyDexlh5rxRdwT4e12y5tzNziF1aBXShxOGuArfAKW8s2G7i43hq3rjpLJjw1OBkWK9EQ23cg= ; Received: from unknown (HELO DennisPC) (dennis.easterling@86.157.175.252 with login) by smtp817.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Nov 2009 16:12:59 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: H_MJu2qswBDkdHeCAZfwexko6VNOiMP5URzYEvz3WrE5v1grQm6fnvJecjM9 X-YMail-OSG: Po9CpUIVM1kyJhFX75sG1MebGUxM6Rs4ND_EWPfrhW72qIup4HS.2ia_XW5.WITzbcEQV3Xi7nw4FIaWOVbjOnkVta.FiIiA5u3trvbVtChv866WVsii3OuainkBaam5Ba3G04GxxrdimwrTwOGstNEZ66_yE.wJKVrYLmELpFqwSa3R8XyQF6VIBD5Nz.Ql0puG1z7_5DIgkIPkZEnwn17kzLqsFe5aQ1DVpJHwNhLzCurG8.bOpkhDjGVDSfxzgTj35oez.qHvKFyL_TiWd7hIxxQczncDkM0P X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "DENNIS EASTERLING" To: References: <112811.74996.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <112811.74996.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:12:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01CA6220.A98A2940" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, LINES_OF_YELLING,LINES_OF_YELLING_2,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01CA6220.A98A2940 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Congratulations Chris. Most wspr stations seem to congregate at the top end of the band and= are not too much trouble. Jim G7NKS is the biggest pain as he sits= on my xtl frequency and is so close. Maybe a compromise would be fo= r people using beacons to keep to one segment of the band (hopefully= not 502.2 kHz -hee) 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Chris Osborn=20 To: LF Group=20 Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 6:03 PM Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO LF It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m= . This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 60= 0m / 80m. Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI= 0CF - No. 998. QSO break-down according to mode: 928 CW, 34 RTTY and 5 QRSS 600m STATIONS My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and= many of these go back to the start of the UK 600m allocation in Marc= h 2007. Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding= beacons). Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard= of again: G3KZU, G3YHV . . . Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT: G3UNT,= G3VTT, G4GDR. . . MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the sa= me stations many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of my= total contacts. My most frequently worked stations are: GW3UEP - 120 G3KEV - 102 M0FMT - 90 G3ZWH - 80 (alas= now SK) G3DXZ - 67 G4GDR - 60 EI0CF/ GI4DPE - 51 M0JXM= - 48 G3UNT - 45 G3VTT - 38 CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a cr= oss-band QSO: DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . . and our few EU MF friends are still active: ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . . WSPR ON 600m I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for th= e WSPR mode was never achieved for hand sent Morse (CW), which after= all is the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF mari= ne band. If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger station= s operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band th= en I guess it may be time for me to QSY. 73 Chris G3XIZ ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01CA6220.A98A2940 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Congratulations Chris.
 
Most wspr stations seem to congregate= at the top=20 end of the band and are not too much trouble.    Jim G7NKS is the biggest pain as he sit= s on my xtl frequency=20 and is so close.   Maybe a compromise would be for people us= ing=20 beacons to keep to one segment of the band (hopefully not 502.2 kHz=20 -hee)
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Chris= Osborn=20
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 20= 09 6:03=20 PM
Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th= MF QSO

LF

It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th= QSO using=20 600m.
This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of whic= h were=20 600m / 80m.

Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3X= PU - No.=20 999 and EI0CF - No. 998.

QSO break-down according to mode:=20     928 CW,  34 RTTY  and   5=20 QRSS

600m=20 STATIONS

My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a tot= al of=20 59 stations and many of the= se go back=20 to the start of the UK  600m allocation in March 2007.
Of th= ese I have=20 worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding beacons).
Ma= ny=20 stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of aga= in: =20 G3KZU, G3YHV . . .
Others were once very active but have subseque= ntly gone=20 QRT:  G3UNT, G3VTT, G4GDR. . .

MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED

With=20 so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the same st= ations=20 many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of my total conta= cts.
My=20 most frequently worked stations are:

GW3UEP -=20 120     G3KEV - 102     = ; M0FMT -=20 90     G3ZWH  -  80  (alas now=20 SK)
G3DXZ    -   67   &nb= sp; G4GDR=20 -   60      EI0CF/ GI4DPE = - =20 51   M0JXM - 48
G3UNT    -  = =20 45     G3VTT  -   38

CROSS-BAND AND EU=20 STATIONS

There are a few 'regular' stations who listen= to 600m=20 and enjoy a cross-band QSO:
DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE,= G3TVF . .=20 .

and our few EU MF friends are still active:
ON4KTJ, OR7T= and=20 OZ8NJ. . .

WSPR ON= =20 600m

I personally find it sad that the present level= of=20 enthusiasm for the WSPR mode was never achieved for  hand sent= Morse=20 (CW), which after all is the mode which I call to mind when thinking= of the=20 old MF marine band.
If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with mo= re and=20 stronger stations operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which= is the 600m=20 band then I guess it may be time for me to QSY.

73 Chris=20 G3XIZ








<= /BLOCKQUOTE> ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01CA6220.A98A2940-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (rly-mf03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.173]) by air-mf01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF014-9524af74815349; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:37:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF038-9524af74815349; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:37:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7GMq-0001Ou-8f for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:36:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7GMp-0001Ol-M4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:36:15 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7GMn-0006wx-9W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:36:15 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so2932120bwz.4 for ; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:36:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.139.143 with SMTP id t15mr817097hbt.92.1257719765139; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:36:05 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [86.180.89.68] In-Reply-To: References: <027601ca60a2$841cd150$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:36:05 +0000 Message-ID: From: PETER CLEALL To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f7252ed402110477e3b353 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001485f7252ed402110477e3b353 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 In addition to what James has said. Use of the WSPR site more fully can eliminate a lot of the uncertainties being discussed If more stations use the WSPR website/database for reporting then more consistency is obtained, or at least the possibility of allowing some calculation and estimates on what is reported. When reporting then you are asked to keep your tx power low and to enter your TX power in the set up window ,so that we all know what it is. Also on the site there is a section where you can describe your station parameters. peter G8AFN 2009/11/8 James Moritz > Dear Mal, LF Group, > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "mal hamilton" > > > > WSPR reports amongst stns indicate reception reports usually minus dB. >> Most of these stations are usually PLUS dB >with me or very close to that >> figure. >> So what does that prove. >> > > It proves the SNR is higher at the output of your receiver than it is at > whatever other stations you are talking about > > > > I would say it depends on the RX antenna and not necessarily propagation. >> > > So how then does the signal reach the RX antenna? Radio wave propagation > has always to be involved somewhere! > > > > A large antenna yields better results than a small loop or active whip. >> > > Not if the small loop or whip are designed to achieve adequate SNR at the > frequency of interest. > > > > When I switch from my 1/4 wave inv L for 500 khz to a smaller 40 m >> resonated loop for 500 the signals then do go >down to a minus db figure. >> So what is all this all ABOUT ? >> > > It is probably about the different directional patterns of the vertical and > loop antennas, resulting in different signal and noise levels at the > receiver, and therefore different values of SNR. Or maybe your loop just > doesn't work very well. > > > > There is also the TX pwr to consider. Two transmitters from the same >> location one using QRO and the other QRP will be >received at different >> levels at a specified RX location. There is a lot of misrepresentation and >> misleading information by >WSPR operator >> > > This applies also to CW or any other type of signal. It is a bit rich for > someone so shy of giving figures for his TX power to suggest others are > being misleading... > > > > A trace of the signal is visible long before a decode takes place, >> therefore why not use QRS in the first place. >> > > Because a trace of signal is just that; a decoded WSPR signal contains > station ID, location, and power information, making it much more useful, > without the operator actually having to watch a computer screen 24 hours a > day. > > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > --001485f7252ed402110477e3b353 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In addition to what James has said.

Use of= the WSPR site more fully can eliminate a lot of the uncertainties being= discussed


If more stations use th= e WSPR website/database for reporting then more consistency is obtained,= or at least the possibility of allowing some calculation and estimates on= what is reported.=A0

When reporting then you are asked to keep your tx powe= r low and to enter your TX power in the set up window ,so that we all know= what it is. Also on the site there is a section where you can describe yo= ur station parameters.


peter G8AFN

<= div>

2009/11/8 James Moritz <james.mor= itz@btopenworld.com>
Dear Mal, LF Group,

----- Original Message ----- From: "mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net= >



WSPR reports amongst stns indicate reception reports usually minus dB. Mos= t of these stations are usually PLUS dB >with me or very close to that= figure.
So what does that prove.

It proves the SNR is higher at the output of your receiver than it is at= whatever other stations you are talking about



I would say it depends on the RX antenna and not necessarily propagation.<= br>

So how then does the signal reach the RX antenna? Radio wave propagation= has always to be involved somewhere!



A large antenna yields better results than a small loop or active whip.

Not if the small loop or whip are designed to achieve adequate SNR at the= frequency of interest.



When I switch from my 1/4 wave inv L for 500 khz to a smaller 40 m resonat= ed loop for 500 the signals then do go >down to a minus db figure.
So what is all this all ABOUT ?

It is probably about the different directional patterns of the vertical an= d loop antennas, resulting in different signal and noise levels at the rec= eiver, and therefore different values of SNR. Or maybe your loop just does= n't work very well.



There is also the TX pwr to consider. Two transmitters from the same locat= ion one using QRO and the other QRP will be >received at different leve= ls at a specified RX location. There is a lot of misrepresentation and mis= leading information by >WSPR operator

This applies also to CW or any other type of signal. It is a bit rich for= someone so shy of giving figures for his TX power to suggest others are= being misleading...



A trace of the signal is visible long before a decode takes place, therefo= re why not use QRS in the first place.

Because a trace of signal is just that; a decoded WSPR signal contains sta= tion ID, location, and power information, making it much more useful, with= out the operator actually having to watch a computer screen 24 hours a day= .


Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU


--001485f7252ed402110477e3b353-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db10.mx.aol.com (rly-db10.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.85]) by air-db07.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDB072-af14b0c319c20f; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:19:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB107-af14b0c319c20f; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:18:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ND0th-0006cv-Qx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:17:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ND0th-0006cm-Ew for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:17:57 +0000 Received: from out1.ip05ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.241]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ND0tg-0003KL-IB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:17:57 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlAHAMm/C0tcGuD//2dsb2JhbACdGLlghDkE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,280,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="111682461" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.26.224.255]) by out1.ip05ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 24 Nov 2009 19:17:48 +0000 Message-ID: <001e01ca6d3a$ce6de600$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000e01ca6d27$45eaac40$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <014501ca6d37$2f8821c0$0517aac0@desktop> <57a24ca70911241107v4b948ac6h9aa5a080f2cee158@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:17:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: RE: SITOR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Warren It seems you are on the ball. Siome strange folks about, and a certain DR does not have a clue !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Ziegler" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 7:07 PM Subject: Re: LF: RE: SITOR James, Relax ! They are looking for a DECODE (not TRANSMIT) program! Most likely to be used for looking at NAVTEX transmissions. -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 1:51 PM, James Cowburn wrote: > IS THIS NOT TANTAMOUNT TO ENCOURAGING WOULD-BE UNATTENDED BEACON APPLIANCE > OPERATORS TO JAM THE BANDS WITH DATA?? > > > > Jim J (tongue firmly in cheek!) > > > > ________________________________ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton > Sent: 24 November 2009 16:58 > To: rsgb > Subject: LF: SITOR > > > > Looking for a good decode prog. > > mal/g3kev > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD104-b634b0271443c4; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:48:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD025-b634b0271443c4; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:47:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAKeN-0001Kn-9H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:47:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAKeM-0001Ke-QJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:47:02 +0000 Received: from mail-px0-f187.google.com ([209.85.216.187]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAKeM-0006I9-0I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:47:02 +0000 Received: by pxi17 with SMTP id 17so4692237pxi.30 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:46:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=K4H8IHqhLA3xItCIHEgJAyZn06lKHxlSQjqwvWX27lI=; b=h4XNFYKjyaTEjIh+JU9mYVgYlfG6gkf4+wN9ApWjVtADZodThzhFmWEpjb1dQOrMxi M2AZt3UNI8m24a+y58mvjDWO0cebAlUFzVBrwc2V4/bTatls9QBQrSGH4tDegW9k44t5 b/en42wSyOcnrObVjuBFBfsjx5CQykmawqlZ0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=FxzKkYazn5BKpJZ4q0Ynqacw7BoIRPMnNaU8xY533FCWU2021hv+T6gFxyKu7pmjK+ N5IxM4cN3lW/r0x0eANAMAYehztexJCc/gt9r1xLBwXocaaNc16TtHxGsMzYGwtgPi2p PloYqRaY2AXJXZ4e6tquceEmmdDokeUJGS78s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.207.20 with SMTP id e20mr531340rvg.135.1258451215145; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:46:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091117081718.BDD6EF3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> References: <1f0624b90911160805u4435bd18ue805924594d8b997@mail.gmail.com> <20091117081718.BDD6EF3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:46:55 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 334fbe7b36aa50a4 Message-ID: <1f0624b90911170146i3b3201abh55b54fd75e56fa50@mail.gmail.com> From: Gary - G4WGT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd299d4a55d2604788e01f8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m207.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0cd299d4a55d2604788e01f8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Rik, Well done. I should be in a position to attempt the same as I saw solid QRS signals from Joe. Gary - G4WGT. 2009/11/17 Rik Strobbe > Gary, All, > > yesterday I could copy VX9MRC in QRSS3 with a surprising strong signal as > early as 18 UTC, when I launched Argo. > Throughout the evening the signal was strong and with little QSB from > 19-22UTC, after that the signal became weaker with much more QSB. > Probably because I had a sked with Joe at 22:40 UTC ;-) . > But despite all we managed to complete the QSO with both way M report > (would have been a solid O earlier the evening). > A first ON-VE QSO on 500kHz and with +/- 4075km a new DX record for me > Joe transmitted on 507.770 and I on 501.190. > Between 19 and 22 UTC the signal was audible most of the time and would > have been CW copy if it were not squeezed between the NDB "Z" carrier at > 507.980 (S9+ here) the SM6BHZ CW/SSB test transmissions (up to S9) and a > local birdie on 507.600. > > For the QSO I was running 300W into my 11m high / 25m long lazy-L antenna, > estimated ERP about 1.5 Watt (at best, if the greenery does not absorb too > much) > > The night from Sunday - Monday I left Argo running, VX9MRC produced a good > signal all through the night and faded out at 07UTC. This would mean that > there is a potential transatlantic path on 500kHz for 13h a day !!! > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > At 17:05 16/11/2009, you wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> Good signals from both stations last night. >> >> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo. >> > > > --000e0cd299d4a55d2604788e01f8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rik,

Well done.

I should be in= a position to attempt the same as I saw solid QRS signals from Joe.
=

Gary - G4WGT.

2009/1= 1/17 Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
Gary, All,

yesterday I could copy VX9MRC in QRSS3 with a surprising strong signal as= early as 18 UTC, when I launched Argo.
Throughout the evening the signal was strong and with little QSB from 19-2= 2UTC, after that the signal became weaker with much more QSB.
Probably because I had a sked with Joe at 22:40 UTC ;-) .
But despite all we managed to complete the QSO with both way M report (wou= ld have been a solid O earlier the evening).
A first ON-VE QSO on 500kHz and with +/- 4075km a new DX record for me
Joe transmitted on 507.770 and I on 501.190.
Between 19 and 22 UTC the signal was audible most of the time and would ha= ve been CW copy if it were not squeezed between the NDB "Z" carr= ier at 507.980 (S9+ here) the SM6BHZ CW/SSB test transmissions (up to S9)= and a local birdie on 507.600.

For the QSO I was running 300W into my 11m high / 25m long lazy-L antenna,= estimated ERP about 1.5 Watt (at best, if the greenery does not absorb to= o much)

The night from Sunday - Monday I left Argo running, =A0VX9MRC produced a= good signal all through the night and faded out at 07UTC. This would mean= that there is a potential transatlantic path on 500kHz for 13h a day !!!<= br>
73, Rik =A0ON7YD - OR7T

At 17:05 16/11/2009, you wrote:
Hi All,

Good signals from both stations last night.

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.



--000e0cd299d4a55d2604788e01f8-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df07.mx.aol.com (rly-df07.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.20]) by air-df04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF042-5604b02f7d82b5; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:22:08 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF071-5604b02f7d82b5; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:22:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NATbb-0005JV-5b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:20:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NATba-0005JM-NG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:20:46 +0000 Received: from qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.48]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NATbY-0001mR-TR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:20:46 +0000 Received: from OMTA20.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.71]) by QMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 6Co91d0061YDfWL55KLckT; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:20:36 +0000 Received: from DELL4 ([76.23.233.102]) by OMTA20.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 6KSf1d0092DDHkk3gKSfUg; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:26:40 +0000 Message-ID: <000501ca67ba$e4817db0$6c01a8c0@DELL4> From: To: Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:19:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.7 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 T/A enthusiasts WE2XGR/2 will beacon in QRSS3 mode tonight on 506.5 kHz from ~ 2130 to ~ 0030 Z. Reports appreciated. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD084-9094b0655582aa; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:38:06 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD061-9094b0655582aa; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:37:51 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBOyv-0004eX-P6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:36:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBOyv-0004eO-Cc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:36:41 +0000 Received: from fmmailgate05.web.de ([217.72.192.243]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBOyt-0005eb-BD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:36:41 +0000 Received: from web.de by fmmailgate05.web.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 05DF25CC9FD9 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:36:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from [91.55.43.191] by freemailng2501.web.de with HTTP; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:36:30 +0100 Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:36:30 +0100 Message-Id: <1493437281@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: =?iso-8859-15?Q?Horst_St=F6cker?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Organization: http://freemail.web.de/ X-Provags-Id: V01U2FsdGVkX18T61hCJeRT+3631Zo8xb66+6iU5LJMGKY1Xf0SUEdUzShsK gT81/14lzi4d6H+uuPnA4wyarvv+IQ0XWMRUSESnWQjGylBdBSvgOSB4LhoN Q== X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Soft Rock for 500 Khz where to buy ?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello, I had the same question and found out: All the softrocks for 500kHz are mo= dified ones. As many I have problems soldering SMD. So I would be glad to find a ready= built 500kHz softrock RX too. For 136kHz I built myself a RX by "Funkamateur" - no problem because no SM= D. It's similar to the softrock. Maybe one could modify this one for 500= kHz too. 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Jetzt freischalten unter http://movieflat.web.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df01.mx.aol.com (rly-df01.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.14]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF072-52b4b03cbf8f5; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:27:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF018-52b4b03cbf8f5; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:27:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAhjm-0001Nq-BN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:26:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAhjl-0001Nh-JW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:26:09 +0000 Received: from web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.123]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAhjl-0006bY-CU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:26:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 39863 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Nov 2009 10:26:03 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1258539963; bh=h9KIKuoznmFtkbQjZ49E6fM4mxhOdLX2WcMXIszqZEM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RoIh5HrI8B6iz+ThnGHbX5mbpq5j8CWfO1FdBUzWyOAipMukLYtlMbS1L+CbPiYcMarR54kqoegKQBqQqn3pfmGmDi/uD+kej9ZogAq3/L63O2jfF7OjpdXQOWuLfJu2hAzMkvmUFNiIRVU6Gj+4pd4QG/1VbucCx7KDUqwQMqg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XQAx9ErbG32qw/qFwV8oQOCuHsYi3SCG1T8EguoYms3qa6atCr/7lVXMd3NEVvlEU5+Vng8AKC48D+/kCLosHy+C3ueFKhbXreOomEDDplHeNPCAS/2jQhrQsdzJ+cE37SKmAZX878OWoyal6YYEB3YHyMsMzvcM3BFw4qXeUVA=; Message-ID: <827574.39630.qm@web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: V3eddiMVM1kViMbn4pFY_PVcUDBDU33ykJhuKm3TnXA9E2XB_1bmSMJALwb7oto7dfsdiqWzUlt6.EgcazTbbB9Yac9ldVlN45CmfFxedlA79DST4p.wwFJ6YE7oSfoRXPUMq7zonRRZnMWbPfFcC5.nXlS3wD3St3uhbnLE7Wv4KxNMwgsUvJ27BvTWSxpJqpjNc8B5szbOhnOSh2LDH3TGtty.o6pi7_u76mjfcnri_MmnmzyFxqVPZwQ1twDn_VEE1gpOdBUl45_C.llxwT5L6gHAVUJL4MloxrstZsbBl3ytrjfqUAF13sAis2PWkl5d9_6w9aZeJWDznXbeBwoWHVKUmA2xvA-- Received: from [86.140.72.194] by web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 02:26:03 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 02:26:03 -0800 (PST) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <02b601ca6833$4e59f6e0$0517aac0@jimdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: RE: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-720041973-1258539963=:39630" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d246.1 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-720041973-1258539963=:39630 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK Jim and LF=20 =A0 Yes when you reduced power from 45w? down to 7w the side bands assuming th= ey were still there but at the same relative level may possibly be=A0unrea= dable by me. 45/7=3D6.4 times reduction 8dB power drop which I think repre= sents -16dB RX strength add that to the say -30dB SB at 45 watts resulting= in, if=A0I have understood this correctly, -46dB side band which is proba= bly below threashold of the Software=A0and I would not see it. I am sure if it was just the fact you had HUM that would not neccessarily= result in IMD there has to be some non linearity for modulation to occur.= =A0The hot PA has to be a clue.=20 =A0 As far as your signal at this QTH goes Jim it is not an issue here I am no= t bothered by your two sidebands at all as you say three for the price of= one ...hee hee. However I cannot think of a simple way to stop me reporti= ng them to the Database other than me closing down.... which may be the so= lution=A0 ... only joking. =A0 73 es GL=A0petefmt=20 --- On Wed, 18/11/09, James Cowburn wrote: From: James Cowburn Subject: RE: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 9:41 Hi Pete =A0 The Rig only gets overly hot on powers over abt 20 watt output and 20%+ du= ty cycle (not to be unexpected given the operation at or beyond the limits= of design). =A0When I run it around 10 to 15 watts and on 10% duty it sta= ys just lightly warm so as far as I can tell there is no discontinuity or= paradox in the ouput/duty/warming matrix!=20 =A0 The sidebands will no doubt be still there, just beyond the limit of detec= tion =A0 =A0 =A0 With best regards =A0 =A0 Jim =A0 =A0 Dr. James Cowburn From: owner- rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner- rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org ] On Behalf Of M0FMT Sent: 18 November 2009 09:27 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands =A0 Hi LF =A0 I think the issue is intermodulation products caused by over driving the= the linear RF stages of the TX into distortion=A0because when Jim reduces= drive the sidebands petty well disappear at this range. These observation= is based upon test carried out yesterday. There is another issue Jim seem= s to have which is that his PA grossly over heats (I think I am right) whe= n he reduces drive and that shouldn't happen. For modulation to take place= the output=A0of the modulator has to be mixed (hetrodyned) with the RF si= gnal. In this case I am guessing that the carrier is modulated by noise (5= 0c/s say) in the non linear (over driven linear RF stages) in the TX drive= r or output. The fact the PA over heats on reduced drive suggests to me the bias on the= PA transistors is being altered by changes to the drive anther indication= that the TX output may not be entirely linear --- On Wed, 18/11/09, James Moritz wrote: From: James Moritz Subject: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 1:13 Dear Jim LF Group, Looking at the sidebands on the G7NKS WSPR signals, mains hum or other noi= se by itself is not a sufficient explanation of what is seen. Simply addin= g 50Hz, 150Hz, etc. noise into the PC audio channel, then feeding the resu= lt into an SSB TX would give unwanted CW at frequencies offset from the SS= B carrier frequency by +/-50Hz, 150Hz and so on, i.e. with the carrier "di= al frequency" at 502.4kHz, unmodulated carriers would appear at 502.45kHz,= 502.55kHz and so on, in addition to the WSPR signal at around 503.9kHz.= However, these would probably largely be removed by the SSB filter in the= rig. Instead, we see unwanted sidebands offset from the wanted WSPR signa= l frequency by +/- 50Hz, 150Hz, with identical modulation to the wanted si= gnal. This requires some sort of non-linear process to cause the intermodu= lation between the presumed mains noise and the WSPR signal somewhere in= the TX chain. One possibility is that intermodulation occurs in the PA. Jim's descriptio= n suggests that he is persuading the HF PA in the IC735 to produce output= at 500k. At this frequency, the PA linearity may well be poor due to the= impedance matching, coupling, decoupling and feedback components in the= PA being wrong for the frequency, and high flux densities occuring in fer= rite components due to the low operating frequency. But this wouldn't expl= ain why Jim also gets multiple received signals from a strong station with= a clean signal, which implies some identical noise source and distortion= in the receive path. It would also mean the mains noise getting through= the filtering in the rig somehow. A possibility that would explain the unwanted sidebands appearing on both= TX and RX signals is if one of the oscillators in the system has mains no= ise sidebands. The sound card clock seems unlikely, since this is just a= simple crystal oscillator. I see the IC735 has some sort of multi-loop PL= L synthesiser, which would certainly be prone to this type of spurious sig= nal, since any kind of mains noise getting in would modulate the VCO frequ= encies, and would probably be the same on transmit and receive. This could= be checked by receiving a clean carrier somewhere around 500kHz, and exam= ining the audio output using Spec Lab or Argo or similar to see if 50Hz an= d 150Hz sidebands are present on the received audio tone. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Cowburn" To: Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:26 PM Subject: LF: rule #2 - assumption is the brother of all foul ups > LF >=20 >=20 >=20 > Sidebands are back!=A0 I think its caused by my TX getting hot and bothe= red by > struggling at 500.=A0 From cold it txs 50 watts but this soon drops back= to > around 35, and the sidebands appear.=A0 My sigs are better so having the= txfr > outside the shack and at the antenna is a vast improvement, but I now ne= ed > to work on the cooling. =A0 =20 --0-720041973-1258539963=:39630 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
OK Jim and LF
 
Yes when you reduced power from 45w? down to 7w the side bands assumi= ng they were still there but at the same relative level may possibly be&nb= sp;unreadable by me. 45/7=3D6.4 times reduction 8dB power drop which I thi= nk represents -16dB RX strength add that to the say -30dB SB at 45 watts= resulting in, if I have understood this correctly, -46dB side band= which is probably below threashold of the Software and I would not= see it.
I am sure if it was just the fact you had HUM that would not neccessa= rily result in IMD there has to be some non linearity for modulation to oc= cur. The hot PA has to be a clue.
 
As far as your signal at this QTH goes Jim it is not an issue here I= am not bothered by your two sidebands at all as you say three for the pri= ce of one ...hee hee. However I cannot think of a simple way to stop me re= porting them to the Database other than me closing down.... which may be= the solution  ... only joking.
 
73 es GL petefmt

--- On Wed, 18/11/09, James Cowburn= <james.cowburn@virgin.net> wrote:

From: James Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.n= et>
Subject: RE: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org
Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 9:41

Hi Pete

 =

The Rig only gets ov= erly hot on powers over abt 20 watt output and 20%+ duty cycle (not to be= unexpected given the operation at or beyond the limits of design).  = When I run it around 10 to 15 watts and on 10% duty it stays just lightly= warm so as far as I can tell there is no discontinuity or paradox in the= ouput/duty/warming matrix!

 =

The sidebands will= no doubt be still there, just beyond the limit of detection=

 =

 =

 =

With best regards

=  

=  

Jim

=  

=  

Dr. James Cowburn

From:= owner- rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner- rsgb_lf_group@= blacksheep.org ] On Behalf Of = M0FMT
Sent: 18 Nove= mber 2009 09:27
To: rsg= b_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject:= Re: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands

 

Hi LF

 

I think the issue is intermodulation products caused= by over driving the the linear RF stages of the TX into distortion b= ecause when Jim reduces drive the sidebands petty well disappear at this= range. These observation is based upon test carried out yesterday. There= is another issue Jim seems to have which is that his PA grossly over heat= s (I think I am right) when he reduces drive and that shouldn't happen. Fo= r modulation to take place the output of the modulator has to be mixe= d (hetrodyned) with the RF signal. In this case I am guessing that the car= rier is modulated by noise (50c/s say) in the non linear (over driven line= ar RF stages) in the TX driver or output.

The fact the PA over heats on reduced drive suggests= to me the bias on the PA transistors is being altered by changes to the= drive anther indication that the TX output may not be entirely linear
=
--- On Wed, 18/11/09, James Morit= z <james.moritz@btopenworld.com&g= t; wrote:


From: James Moritz &l= t;james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
Subject: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands
= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 1:= 13

Dear Jim LF Group,
Looking at the sidebands on the G7NKS WSPR signals, mains hum or other no= ise by itself is not a sufficient explanation of what is seen. Simply addi= ng 50Hz, 150Hz, etc. noise into the PC audio channel, then feeding the res= ult into an SSB TX would give unwanted CW at frequencies offset from the= SSB carrier frequency by +/-50Hz, 150Hz and so on, i.e. with the carrier= "dial frequency" at 502.4kHz, unmodulated carriers would appear at 502.45= kHz, 502.55kHz and so on, in addition to the WSPR signal at around 503.9kH= z. However, these would probably largely be removed by the SSB filter in= the rig. Instead, we see unwanted sidebands offset from the wanted WSPR= signal frequency by +/- 50Hz, 150Hz, with identical modulation to the wan= ted signal. This requires some sort of non-linear process to cause the int= ermodulation between the presumed mains noise and the WSPR signal somewhere in the TX chain.
One possibility is that intermodulation occurs in the PA. Jim's desc= ription suggests that he is persuading the HF PA in the IC735 to produce= output at 500k. At this frequency, the PA linearity may well be poor due= to the impedance matching, coupling, decoupling and feedback components= in the PA being wrong for the frequency, and high flux densities occuring= in ferrite components due to the low operating frequency. But this wouldn= 't explain why Jim also gets multiple received signals from a strong stati= on with a clean signal, which implies some identical noise source and dist= ortion in the receive path. It would also mean the mains noise getting thr= ough the filtering in the rig somehow.

A possibility that would exp= lain the unwanted sidebands appearing on both TX and RX signals is if one= of the oscillators in the system has mains noise sidebands. The sound car= d clock seems unlikely, since this is just a simple crystal oscillator. I see the= IC735 has some sort of multi-loop PLL synthesiser, which would certainly= be prone to this type of spurious signal, since any kind of mains noise= getting in would modulate the VCO frequencies, and would probably be the= same on transmit and receive. This could be checked by receiving a clean= carrier somewhere around 500kHz, and examining the audio output using Spe= c Lab or Argo or similar to see if 50Hz and 150Hz sidebands are present on= the received audio tone.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

=
----- Original Message ----- From: "James Cowburn" <james.cowburn@virgin.net>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:26 PM
Subject: LF: rule #2 - assumption is the bro= ther of all foul ups


> LF
>
>
>
>= Sidebands are back!  I think its caused by my TX getting hot and bot= hered by
> struggling at 500.  From cold it txs 50 watts but th= is soon drops back to
> around 35, and the sidebands appear. = My sigs are better so having the txfr
> outside the shack and at th= e antenna is a vast improvement, but I now need
> to work on the coo= ling.

 


=20 --0-720041973-1258539963=:39630-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD013-b734af761961d6; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:26:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD045-b734af761961d6; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:26:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7I3u-0002Ih-LD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:24:50 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7I3t-0002IY-Mi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:24:49 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.55]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7I3r-0007SI-2g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:24:49 +0000 Received: from edmwaa01.telusplanet.net ([75.157.140.241]) by priv-edmwes33.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091109002445.WZFR25474.priv-edmwes33.telusplanet.net@edmwaa01.telusplanet.net> for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:24:45 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.67] (d75-157-140-241.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.140.241]) by edmwaa01.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 51662375A7889C1D for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:24:44 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4AF7614C.60207@telus.net> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:24:44 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <027601ca60a2$841cd150$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <020b01ca60a9$4495adc0$0201a8c0@Clemens04> <029701ca60af$4f444d20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <4AF73120.6070007@telus.net> <02c801ca60c6$aa5e0540$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <02c801ca60c6$aa5e0540$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hey Mal 80 or 40m for HF QRG? Scott mal hamilton wrote: > > > Sri Scott > I do not use beacon mode only QSO mode. If you want to try xband let > me know your QRG on HF. I have worked VE7 on every band from 1.8 - 28 > Mcs. Only CW or QRS3 tx this end. > > > 73 de mal/g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" > To: > Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 8:59 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: WSPR > > >> Hey Mal >> >> Would you consider firing up a QRSS beacon for a couple of hours before >> and during your sunrise in the NA waterhole 137778.0Hz +/- 3Hz? >> >> DCF39 has been audible for the last couple of nights and it may be our >> time to get a signal from EU into the west coast of NA. I'd like to see >> how the path works while open and see whether there is a possibility of >> QSO in the future. >> >> Here's your chance at another first... >> >> TU es 73 >> Scott >> >> >> mal hamilton wrote: >>> Two points >>> >>> Why waste 2.4 kHz when QRS only needs a few Hz with a better S/N ratio. >>> >>> You agree that a faint trace is visible. If this faint trace was QRS >>> mode only a few Hz bandwidth would be necessary to read the >>> intellegence and the signal/noise would be superior. >>> G3KEV >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clemens Paul" >>> To: >>> Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 7:23 PM >>> Subject: LF: Re: WSPR >>> >>> >>>> Mal, >>>> >>>>> WSPR reports amongst stns indicate reception reports usually minus >>>>> dB. Most of these >>>>> stations are usually PLUS >>>>> dB with me or very close to that figure. >>>> >>>> WSPR refers the indicated SNR to a BW of 2,4kHz. >>>> So if your receiving BW is say 100Hz your actual SNR is better by >>>> ~14dB than WSPR >>>> reports. >>>> >>>>> A trace of the signal is visible long before a decode takes place, >>>>> therefore why >>>>> not use QRS in >>>> >the first place. >>>> >>>> This may be an issue of your RX/soundcard setup. >>>> I can assure you that with my Perseus SDR RX,set to a RBW of less >>>> than one Hertz >>>> for the display,I can decode every WSPR signal which shows even only >>>> a faint trace on >>>> the waterfall diagram. >>>> At least this is my experience so far. >>>> >>>> 73 >>>> Clemens >>>> DL4RAJ >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: mal hamilton >>>> To: rsgb >>>> Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 7:37 PM >>>> Subject: LF: WSPR >>>> >>>> >>>> WSPR reports amongst stns indicate reception reports usually minus >>>> dB. Most of these stations >>>> are usually PLUS dB with me or very close to that figure. >>>> So what does that prove. I would say it depends on the RX antenna and >>>> not necessarily >>>> propagation. A large antenna yields better results than a small loop >>>> or active whip. >>>> When I switch from my 1/4 wave inv L for 500 khz to a smaller 40 m >>>> resonated loop for 500 the >>>> signals then do go down to a minus db figure. >>>> So what is all this all ABOUT ? >>>> There is also the TX pwr to consider. Two transmitters from the same >>>> location one using QRO >>>> and the other QRP will be received at different levels at a specified >>>> RX location. There is a >>>> lot of misrepresentation and misleading information by WSPR operator >>>> A trace of the signal is visible long before a decode takes place, >>>> therefore why not use QRS >>>> in the first place. >>>> >>>> G3KEV >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>> Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.55/2489 - Release Date: >>>> 11/08/09 07:37:00 >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.55/2489 - Release Date: >>> 11/08/09 07:37:00 >>> >>> >>> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.55/2489 - Release Date: > 11/08/09 07:37:00 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de06.mx.aol.com (rly-de06.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.142]) by air-de06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE063-4df4b09e85f1cb; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:42:08 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE062-4df4b09e85f1cb; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:41:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCNv2-00079G-2U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:40:44 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCNv1-000797-6g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:40:43 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s29.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.40]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCNuz-0007G4-A8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:40:43 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W27 ([65.55.116.7]) by blu0-omc1-s29.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:40:33 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [138.32.254.21] From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China To: Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:40:33 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <006101ca6bd9$9ab3cb70$0900a8c0@lark> References: <4B09D502.8030200@toya.net.pl>,<006101ca6bd9$9ab3cb70$0900a8c0@lark> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Nov 2009 01:40:33.0231 (UTC) FILETIME=[F267BDF0:01CA6BDD] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_7fbe74eb-3bca-40c4-8e34-0f40c66c5f3c_" Subject: RE: LF: Re: N-turn TX Loop X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_7fbe74eb-3bca-40c4-8e34-0f40c66c5f3c_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yep Ive just been discussed this with John TAG trying to recall what we ha= ve did- as ever my files are back in Alaska and Im here..=20 =20 I did "try" 2T (the loop was 4 large conductors in parallel separated betw= een metres on the vertical and top horizontal sections and about 5 Cms on= the lower horizontals) - the results did not give an improvement in far= field or local mobile field measurements, but, I did not fully investigat= e the other losses - my total loop current did decrease, and other losses= would indicate that this negated any "gain" perceived or otherwise... =20 Ive been racking my brains and as far as I can remember a single turn I re= alized around 49A loop current and 2T around 33A fully matched using the= "M0BMU scopematch" for around 1Kw into the loop. =20 Im sure there is more... =20 Laurence in BY3A =20 > From: alan.melia@btinternet.com > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:09:24 +0000 > Subject: LF: Re: N-turn TX Loop >=20 > Hi Piotr I think Laurence KL1X had 2 turns in Oklahoma.(about 100m > periphery) > I think there are other loss problems as you increase the turns. Jim M0B= MU > is the expert on that. >=20 > Alan G3NYK >=20 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Piotr M=B3ynarski" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 12:19 AM > Subject: LF: N-turn TX Loop >=20 >=20 > > Dear LF group, > > I would like to put for your consideration the issue of > > multi-turn transmitting loops. Have you ever done such an experiment= on > > LF ? > > This sunday evening i decided to do some simple math and it turns out > > that such a N-turn TX loop should work ( at least on the paper) > > The radiation resistance is proportional to the square of so called > > "effective > > height" and this last term can be easily derived for a loop i.e. it is > > equal to > > 2*pi*A*N/lambda where A denotes area closed by a loop a N is the numbe= r > > of turns > > so the radiation resistance for a single turn loop reads as > > 320*pi^4*A^2/lambda^4 > > For the N-turns the radiation resistance obtained for a single turn is > > multiplied > > by N^2. Ok, the R (ac) is increased as we increase N but this is linea= r > > with respect to N > > and therefore we should have gain in the radiated power. > > (there is an implicit assumption made: the loop is "small" i.e. the > > current is constant) > > > > i did some calculations: assumed TX power ( and later, perfect match= to > > the loop) 200 Watt > > environmental loss: 1.5 Ohm, diameter of the wire d =3D 3 mm, rectangu= lar > > shape of the loop > > i.e 10 meters by 20 meters ( less optimal than square or circle ) > > so A =3D 200 sq.m For N =3D1 (classical tx loop) we get R(AC) =3D 0.62= Ohm > > ( Rac formula taken from ARRL Antenna Handbook, f =3D 137.7kHz) > > radiation resistance RRAD =3D 55.5 microOhm, total R loss =3D 2.12 Ohm= , > > efficiency is 0.0026% and radiated pwr 5.2 miliWatts, I =3D 9.7 Amp. > > Next, I took N =3D3 so the wire length is changed from 60 meters to 18= 0, > > everything else was kept the same and now one gets: R(ac)=3D 1.85 Ohm= so > > R loss =3D 3.35 Ohm > > RRAD =3D 499.5 microOhm, efficiency increased to 0.015% and radiated= pwr > > abt 30 miliWatt, I=3D7.7 Amp > > I am sorry bothering you but i simply would like to learn > > where is the 'catch' here - if there is one ... > > I guess the assumed loop i.e. 10 by 20 mters is 'reasonable' as TX ant= enna > > i took these values after reading the article about > > WD2XES first TX loop: 40 feet by 65 feet - well , almost the same > > dimensions.. :) > > From practical reasons the N values will likely be small , say, 2 or= 3 > > but as the above numbers show maybe it is worth doing it. > > > > 73 de Piotr, sq7mpj > > qth: Lodz /jo91rs/ > > >=20 >=20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=3DPID24727::T= :WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009v2=3D --_7fbe74eb-3bca-40c4-8e34-0f40c66c5f3c_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yep Ive just been discussed this with John TAG trying to recall what= we have did- as ever my files are back in Alaska and Im here.. 
 
I did "try" 2T (the loop was 4 large conductors in parallel separated betw= een metres on the vertical and top horizontal sections and about 5 Cm= s on the lower horizontals) - the results did not give an improvement in= far field or local mobile field measurements, but, I did not fully= investigate the other losses - my total loop current did decrease, a= nd other losses would indicate that this negated any "gain" perceived= or otherwise...
 
Ive been racking my brains and as far as I can remember a single turn= I realized around 49A loop current and 2T around 33A fully matched using= the "M0BMU scopematch" for around 1Kw into the loop.
 
Im sure there is more...
 
Laurence in BY3A
 
> From: alan.melia@btinternet.com> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:0= 9:24 +0000
> Subject: LF: Re: N-turn TX Loop
>
> Hi Pio= tr I think Laurence KL1X had 2 turns in Oklahoma.(about 100m
> perip= hery)
> I think there are other loss problems as you increase the tu= rns. Jim M0BMU
> is the expert on that.
>
> Alan G3NYK<= BR>>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Piotr M=B3yna= rski" <sq7mpj@toya.net.pl>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org>
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 12:19 AM
> Subject:= LF: N-turn TX Loop
>
>
> > Dear LF group,
>= > I would like to put for your consideration the issue of
> >= multi-turn transmitting loops. Have you ever done such an experiment on> > LF ?
> > This sunday evening i decided to do some sim= ple math and it turns out
> > that such a N-turn TX loop should= work ( at least on the paper)
> > The radiation resistance is pr= oportional to the square of so called
> > "effective
> >= height" and this last term can be easily derived for a loop i.e. it is> > equal to
> > 2*pi*A*N/lambda where A denotes area clos= ed by a loop a N is the number
> > of turns
> > so the= radiation resistance for a single turn loop reads as
> > 320*pi^= 4*A^2/lambda^4
> > For the N-turns the radiation resistance obtai= ned for a single turn is
> > multiplied
> > by N^2. Ok,= the R (ac) is increased as we increase N but this is linear
> >= with respect to N
> > and therefore we should have gain in the= radiated power.
> > (there is an implicit assumption made: the= loop is "small" i.e. the
> > current is constant)
> >> > i did some calculations: assumed TX power ( and later, perfect= match to
> > the loop) 200 Watt
> > environmental loss:= 1.5 Ohm, diameter of the wire d =3D 3 mm, rectangular
> > shape= of the loop
> > i.e 10 meters by 20 meters ( less optimal than= square or circle )
> > so A =3D 200 sq.m For N =3D1 (classical= tx loop) we get R(AC) =3D 0.62 Ohm
> > ( Rac formula taken from= ARRL Antenna Handbook, f =3D 137.7kHz)
> > radiation resistance= RRAD =3D 55.5 microOhm, total R loss =3D 2.12 Ohm,
> > efficienc= y is 0.0026% and radiated pwr 5.2 miliWatts, I =3D 9.7 Amp.
> >= Next, I took N =3D3 so the wire length is changed from 60 meters to 180,<= BR>> > everything else was kept the same and now one gets: R(ac)=3D= 1.85 Ohm so
> > R loss =3D 3.35 Ohm
> > RRAD =3D 499.5= microOhm, efficiency increased to 0.015% and radiated pwr
> > ab= t 30 miliWatt, I=3D7.7 Amp
> > I am sorry bothering you but i sim= ply would like to learn
> > where is the 'catch' here - if there= is one ...
> > I guess the assumed loop i.e. 10 by 20 mters is= 'reasonable' as TX antenna
> > i took these values after reading= the article about
> > WD2XES first TX loop: 40 feet by 65 feet= - well , almost the same
> > dimensions.. :)
> > From= practical reasons the N values will likely be small , say, 2 or 3
>= > but as the above numbers show maybe it is worth doing it.
> &g= t;
> > 73 de Piotr, sq7mpj
> > qth: Lodz /jo91rs/
>= ; >
>
>

Windows 7:= It works the way you want. Learn more. =3D --_7fbe74eb-3bca-40c4-8e34-0f40c66c5f3c_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD074-90a4b0026423a0; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:03:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD062-90a4b0026423a0; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:03:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9hYW-0007Rf-GT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:02:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9hYW-0007RW-4p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:02:24 +0000 Received: from out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.243]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9hYV-0001dZ-Kr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:02:24 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AugEAMe0/0pOlMUA/2dsb2JhbACCIyyBaoUPhEwGw3CEPAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,746,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="226358802" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.197.0]) by out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 15 Nov 2009 16:02:18 +0000 Message-ID: <041d01ca660d$05809000$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:02:23 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: QSL CARDS Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_041A_01CA660D.051EE800" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_041A_01CA660D.051EE800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If the stns below see this msg your QSL cards for LF and MF qso's hav= e been dispatched 1st class. Your cards have been received. JH0BBE , YO2IS and OK2BVG de Mal/G3KEV =20 ------=_NextPart_000_041A_01CA660D.051EE800 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_041A_01CA660D.051EE800-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB062-ab64b01950015f; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:08:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB034-ab64b01950015f; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:08:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA5xY-00079L-Gl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:05:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA5xX-00079C-7s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:05:51 +0000 Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA5xF-0001xF-VA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:05:51 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-2.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.2]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091116180447.WZIG27507.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-2.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:04:47 +0000 Received: from [81.109.247.175] (helo=jimdesk) by know-smtpout-2.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA5wU-0000Vi-MT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:04:47 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: References: <6384450D523443C29C5BD75742F335FF@AGB> <770459.83537.qm@web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:04:43 -0000 Message-ID: <014101ca66e7$478c5c60$0517aac0@jimdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <770459.83537.qm@web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Thread-Index: Acpm5rintk99u+JSSr2OivhfFT7XmAAAG1oA X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=KX6Di794JXYQ1cf20cwA:9 a=Ujd8m4CYzsM_2ElV9U8A:7 a=lwCNhub0gGmjbv7mDJIFofRBhlEA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=1Xh5Z095NRPkv7VNXNkA:7 a=DOigZoD7Ln2tBPna29lgY3olRSEA:4 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: Jim's fixed it! WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0142_01CA66E7.478C5C60" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN, HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0142_01CA66E7.478C5C60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit May have spoken too soon, was fiddling with input levels on last tx and got a few extras. May be partly also due to overdrive. Will turn wick down on next set With best regards Jim Dr. James Cowburn _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of M0FMT Sent: 16 November 2009 17:54 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Jim's fixed it! WSPR Looking good Jim 73 petefmt ------=_NextPart_000_0142_01CA66E7.478C5C60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

May have spoken= too soon, was fiddling with input levels on last tx and got a few extras.  May be partly= also due to overdrive.  Will turn wick down on next set

 

With best regar= ds

 

 

Jim=

 

 

Dr. James Cowbu= rn

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org [mailto:owner-= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of M0FMT
Sent: 16 November 2009= 17:54
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Jim's fixe= d it! WSPR

 

 

Looking good Jim

 

73 petefmt

 

------=_NextPart_000_0142_01CA66E7.478C5C60-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de06.mx.aol.com (rly-de06.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.142]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE022-4df4afbc66d2e3; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:25:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE062-4df4afbc66d2e3; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:25:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8Uye-0005t2-Bt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:24:24 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8Uyd-0005st-Tq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:24:23 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8Uyb-0002F6-0C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:24:23 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.4] (rx1.twatt.home [192.168.1.4]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 088F73B448 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:24:20 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4AFBC633.9000402@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:24:19 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <789669B7117F49968285748B0E5D9871@AGB> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 2009-11-09 09:12 G4JNT 0.503849 -23 0 IO90iv 0.2 K1JT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Andy, LF, I've never been comfortable with K1JT spots, especially on MF, given the software's default settings have his callsign and grid square. Digging deeper in the WSPRnet log shows that at the same time as the spot of G4JNT on 500kHz there are lots of spots from K1JT on 10MHz. While this isn't conclusive (I often monitor 2 bands at once) what is more suspicious is that all the 30m spots are reported with the grid of FN20qi (presumably the correct 6-fig grid for the real K1JT) and the spot of Andy on 500kHz is only 4-figs FN20 This might point to it being a "forgot to change the defaults" spot by A.N.Other? However!! Looking at all K1JT's spots on VLF/LF shows that he's received BHZ (again with the 4-fig FN20 grid) and many of W22XGR and W32XGR (with the same 4-fig FN20) - these XGR spots are with very good S/N ratios, which might indicate that it's genuinely the real K1JT and that his MF version of WSPR is set to report only with the 4-fig grid square. So - unless you can ask Joe himself, it looks like I'd accept them as genuine? There aren't any other obviously erroneous K1JT spots in the database that I can see over the recent past (ie simultaneous spots on multiple bands indicating there are several phantom K1JT's out there). Cheers, John GM4SLV Andy Talbot wrote: > I queried a few instances on this some months ago, and several stations > sugegsted the log was genuine. They're in the database, and can be found by > searching with callsign and reporter filters set. Those roughly coincided > with being heard by A1AA, which is more likely to be genuine. > >> >> 2009-11-09 09:12 >> G4JNT 0.503849 -23 0 IO90iv 0.2 K1JT FN20 5599 288 >> >> At 09-12 ... amazing ! >> >> G .. >> >> >> >> >> > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df09.mx.aol.com (rly-df09.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.22]) by air-df02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF022-57a4afab4b4231; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:57:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF097-57a4afab4b4231; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:57:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8Ck6-0002Dd-SI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:56:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8Ck6-0002DU-D1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:56:10 +0000 Received: from relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net ([212.159.7.36]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8CjM-0005Jm-NT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:55:26 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq8LAKZD+kpUXebz/2dsb2JhbACBSYMqhW6GarlGkQuBMII4VAQ Received: from relay02.plus.net ([84.93.230.243]) by relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 11 Nov 2009 12:56:01 +0000 Received: from [212.159.90.113] (helo=Hugh) by relay02.plus.net with smtp (Exim) id 1N8Cjw-0003GZ-Pe for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:56:00 +0000 Message-ID: <31E46023A2704DF8A4431C0B44BAE495@Hugh> From: "Hugh_m0wye" To: References: <001101ca621e$dcdc3380$96949a80$@princeton.edu> <20091110192309.4v8agotbs0k0gocs@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <004a01ca6249$d91531e0$8b3f95a0$@princeton.edu> <20091110222951.cr4qtrqagcwcowok@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <4AFAAE9C.1070304@ukonline.co.uk> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:55:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Plusnet-Relay: 2e73d02b17398fa8b75164463e9e4874 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: LF: Re: Ferrite characteristics Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Peter, In the past I have wound a few turns aound the core and measured the Inductance. From this you can calculate the AL value, or "Inductance Factor" in nH per turns squared. I measured the Inductance on an LCR meter, but you could resonate the coil against a capacitor and use a GDO as you suggest. Number of turns = square root of (L / AL) where L is inductance in nH. >From this you can compare to published figures, for example the RM series of Ferrite cores (RS used to publish tables which included the AL value, in their catalogues) 73 Hugh M0WYE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Dodd" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 12:31 PM Subject: LF: Ferrite characteristics > Does anyone know of a method of measuring the characteristics > (permeability) of ferrite cores? I have a box of these most without any > identification although I do have T200, 68-2T and T68-2s whose > characteristics are known. > > It occurs to me that you can make a tuned circuit and measure resonance > with a GDO when a ferrite core is inserted into the inductance. A graph > could be made of the different resonances with different cores, to > extrapolate the unknowns. > > However I think that ferrite bulk might be a problem. For example I guess > the red T cores use the same material but would there be a difference > between the T200 and the T68? > > I have lots of material about ferrites in general - I just want to know > what I have in my junk box. I am not interested in exact measurements, I > just want to know if a core is suitable for a specific job. > > Regards > > Peter, G3LDO > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD043-9124b0446f8122; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:12:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD072-9124b0446f8122; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:11:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NApvc-0003sm-QE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:10:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NApvc-0003sd-3Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:10:56 +0000 Received: from smtp6.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.191]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NApva-0004H1-6i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:10:56 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3616.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 60F1B7000088 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:10:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3616.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 544077000089 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:10:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.63.163]) by mwinf3616.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id C0B857000088 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:10:46 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091118191046789.C0B857000088@mwinf3616.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <1519387EC57944BE82527527C2D6184D@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <590EA4755AB54809BC2887F55D65D99A@AGB> <9afca2640911181055y33bb49e4q7707d46e339826b0@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9afca2640911181055y33bb49e4q7707d46e339826b0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:10:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: Re: LF: T61AA 0.503929 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0099_01CA6882.D4B55050" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01CA6882.D4B55050 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To quote ' This is not a drill .. This is the real thing '..=20 Is your RX on ?=20 G ... =20 T61AA Ross B Shasdarak Kabul,=20 Afghanistan 2009-11-18 18:14 T61AA 0.503929 -16 0 MM36nq 10 S5= 1CN JN65tm 4503 300 =20 2009-11-18 18:08 T61AA 0.503929 -20 0 MM36nq 10 = S51CN JN65tm 4503 300 =20 2009-11-18 17:58 T61AA 0.503929 -14 0 MM36nq 10 = S51CN JN65tm 4503 300 =20 2009-11-18 17:48 T61AA 0.503929 -13 1 MM36nq 10 = S51CN JN65tm 4503 300 =20 2009-11-18 17:38 T61AA 0.503928 -23 1 MM36nq 10 = S51CN JN65tm 4503 300 =20 2009-11-18 17:30 T61AA 0.503929 -15 1 MM36nq 10 = S51CN JN65tm 4503 300 =20 2009-11-18 17:24 T61AA 0.503929 -13 0 MM36nq 10 = S51CN JN65tm 4503 300 =20 2009-11-18 17:16 T61AA 0.503929 -22 1 MM36nq 10 = S51CN JN65tm 4503 300 =20 From: Roger Lapthorn=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 6:55 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: T61AA 0.503929 If only. 2009/11/18 Graham 2009-11-18 17:48 T61AA 0.503929 -13 1 MM36nq 10 = S51CN JN65tm 4503 300 =20 Now thats something you dont normally see ! G .. --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01CA6882.D4B55050 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
To quote ' This is  not a drill= .. This is=20 the  real thing '..
 
Is your  RX on ?
 
G ... 
 

T61AA  Ross B<= /P>

Shasdarak   Kabul,

Afghanistan

 

2009-11-18 18:14   T61AA   0.503929   -16   0   MM36nq   10   S51CN   JN65tm   4503   300 
 2009-11-18 18:08   T61AA   0.503929   -20   0   MM36nq   10   S51CN   JN65tm   4503   300 
 2009-11-18 17:58   T61AA   0.503929   -14   0   MM36nq   10   S51CN   JN65tm   4503   300 
 2009-11-18 17:48   T61AA   0.503929   -13   1   MM36nq   10   S51CN   JN65tm   4503   300 
 2009-11-18 17:38   T61AA   0.503928   -23   1   MM36nq   10   S51CN   JN65tm   4503   300 
 2009-11-18 17:30   T61AA   0.503929   -15   1   MM36nq   10   S51CN   JN65tm   4503   300 
 2009-11-18 17:24   T61AA   0.503929   -13   0   MM36nq   10   S51CN   JN65tm   4503   300 
 2009-11-18 17:16   T61AA   0.503929   -22   1   MM36nq   10   S51CN   JN65tm   4503   300 

 
 
 

Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: LF: T61AA 0.503929

If only.

2009/11/18 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk><= /SPAN>
2009-11-18 17:48   T61AA   0.503929   -13   1   MM36nq   10   S51CN   JN65tm   4503   300 
 
Now thats something  you  dont  normally = see !
 
G ..





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------=_NextPart_000_0099_01CA6882.D4B55050-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA084-a7d4afc2da7212; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:46:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA075-a7d4afc2da7212; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:45:45 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8bq1-0006y7-Le for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:43:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8bq1-0006xy-AE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:43:57 +0000 Received: from out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.240]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8bpP-0007DL-Bt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:43:20 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArkEAE+8+0pOkJgj/2dsb2JhbACCUYFqhQ+EUAbPLoQ8BIFs X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,728,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="81084555" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.152.35]) by out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 12 Nov 2009 15:43:44 +0000 Message-ID: <00f201ca63ae$ee6360b0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:43:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: DX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00EF_01CA63AE.EDE9C3E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00EF_01CA63AE.EDE9C3E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Any dx watchers/listeners about tonite? I will be qrv on CW and QRS3= later. QRG 502.57 and QSX 7033=20 de Mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_00EF_01CA63AE.EDE9C3E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Any dx watchers/listeners about tonit= e? I will be=20 qrv on CW and QRS3 later.
QRG 502.57 and QSX 7033
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------=_NextPart_000_00EF_01CA63AE.EDE9C3E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da01.mx.aol.com (rly-da01.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.75]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA094-a4a4af2bce83c8; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:54:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA012-a4a4af2bce83c8; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:54:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N60u3-0001gr-F4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:53:23 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N60u3-0001gi-3e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:53:23 +0000 Received: from mx01.infotech.at ([213.174.240.1]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N60so-00036v-J7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:52:07 +0000 Received: from [213.174.255.68] by mx01.infotech.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N60u0-00033Z-T8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:53:21 +0100 Message-ID: <4AF2BCDD.3090606@inext.at> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:54:05 +0100 From: Oberreiter Oswald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C6EE3533@exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net> In-Reply-To: <254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C6EE3533@exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Who on +/-137.710KHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hallo Marco ! habe mal den tx laufen lassen diese nacht es waren gute bedingungnen ! das signal war fast immer bis 0430 Z am grabber von andrey zu sehen ! kurze zeit gings auch mit 60 watt lesbar. awdh auf 137 servus de ossi oe5odl Scholz, Marco schrieb: > Hello, > I have in this moment (21:22UTC) a very good signal on 137. 710KHz. I copied OEH and ODL! Who was it? > > An hour ago DI2BJ on 505.030 in CW with a booming signal. Looks like beacon is off air now. > > vy73 > Marco > DD7PC, JN49ax > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg01.mx.aol.com (rly-dg01.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.85]) by air-dg06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG064-59e4af5d90b36c; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:31:26 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG013-59e4af5d90b36c; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:31:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6rv2-0001Vd-Uj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:29:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6rv2-0001VU-IL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:29:56 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6ruz-00035r-QP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:29:56 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 07 Nov 2009 20:29:47 -0000 Received: from 188-193-59-244-dynip.superkabel.de (EHLO Uwe) [188.193.59.244] by mail.gmx.net (mp058) with SMTP; 07 Nov 2009 21:29:47 +0100 X-Authenticated: #9373712 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19OoY1lFrhOhT5GAvapxGxAppu1EFC7PFKhzV046c ReSOdVmF8OpUux Message-ID: <6B0FBF73CD0B4F8B86C865F55C5EE395@Uwe> From: "Uwe Wensauer" To: Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:29:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.67,0.68 X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: Heard QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0029_01CA5FF1.6DE56E30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_60_70, HTML_MESSAGE,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01CA5FF1.6DE56E30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ei0CF 559 - >< G3XIZ just audibel EI0CF 579 <> M0JXM partly copie Time 1915 - 2000h GMT QRG 502.5 ( my dail hi) Jo43IU dk1kq , Uwe ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01CA5FF1.6DE56E30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ei0CF  559 - >< G3XIZ just audibel
EI0CF 579 <> M0JXM partly copie
 
Time 1915 - 2000h GMT
QRG 502.5  ( my dail hi)
 
Jo43IU
 
dk1kq , Uwe
------=_NextPart_000_0029_01CA5FF1.6DE56E30-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD074-b8a4af7102842; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:38:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD074-b8a4af7102842; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:38:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7Cdn-00087w-NW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:37:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7Cdn-00087n-7J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:37:31 +0000 Received: from out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.244]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7Ccq-0001oK-4J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:36:32 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AroFAE+f9kpcHccI/2dsb2JhbACCIS+BaYlDBsschD4E X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,704,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="212475161" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([92.29.199.8]) by out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 08 Nov 2009 18:37:21 +0000 Message-ID: <027601ca60a2$841cd150$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:37:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0273_01CA60A2.83ED35D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0273_01CA60A2.83ED35D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable WSPR reports amongst stns indicate reception reports usually minus dB.= Most of these stations are usually PLUS dB with me or very close to= that figure. So what does that prove. I would say it depends on the RX antenna and= not necessarily propagation. A large antenna yields better results th= an a small loop or active whip. When I switch from my 1/4 wave inv L for 500 khz to a smaller 40 m res= onated loop for 500 the signals then do go down to a minus db figure. So what is all this all ABOUT ? There is also the TX pwr to consider. Two transmitters from the same= location one using QRO and the other QRP will be received at differen= t levels at a specified RX location. There is a lot of misrepresentati= on and misleading information by WSPR operator A trace of the signal is visible long before a decode takes place, the= refore why not use QRS in the first place. =20 G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0273_01CA60A2.83ED35D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
WSPR reports amongst stns indicate re= ception=20 reports usually minus dB. Most of these stations are usually PLUS dB= with me or=20 very close to that figure.
So what does that prove. I would say= it depends on=20 the RX antenna and not necessarily propagation. A large antenna yields= better=20 results than a small loop or active whip.
When I switch from my 1/4 wave inv L= for 500 khz to=20 a smaller 40 m resonated loop for 500 the signals then do go down to= a minus db=20 figure.
So what is all this all ABOUT ?
There is also the TX pwr to consider.= Two=20 transmitters from the same location one using QRO and the other QRP wi= ll be=20 received at different levels at a specified RX location. There is a lo= t of=20 misrepresentation and misleading information by=20 WSPR operator
A trace of the signal&nbs= p;is visible=20 long before a decode takes place, therefore why not use QRS in th= e first=20 place.
  
G3KEV
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0273_01CA60A2.83ED35D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md09.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMD091-8f64b0f036b144; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:38:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD036-8f64b0f036b144; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:38:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDmy5-0000fs-Bd for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:37:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDmy4-0000fj-WB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:37:40 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f215.google.com ([209.85.220.215]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDmy4-0004PU-EY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:37:40 +0000 Received: by fxm7 with SMTP id 7so1021392fxm.29 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:37:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=bpUga+u7jpLCSQCRklN0H9YkVixA/50zz9g7DFchESk=; b=fYmlMPMT51ZQmxcoLje2nIYyMWDLQ7MWShmDp7fptbHJoH45XSBHHkgjfQVQddFUGs HI7FeCJYIHyQuQaJ7OXoxcq7qh+FUZTDbhtueqrV3QXtp5wyRRKYcz2NCuDVpHnyoYBw IR+ufeE2+qFzrUi+3dgyr6wlTHgl1n6JOuH/Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Zr6reXgO8XL0lb0b49/prwzbygzBuuE/Gefj91dtFX3IPG05cI6ln3vwHu/sNg0fK7 W9JWSuifU0bWrvMvc2YuaR0bOYEzDXfazOwNP6iDMSsbDunOxojHllIm+F5bCeD246NF GMtAUXKHNdlr+tYYrLN2Hee4vgk6VQxNQKM+Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.139.207 with SMTP id u15mr30718hbu.95.1259275054245; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:37:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:37:34 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Good S/N report Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d289.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) 2009-11-26 22:12 G4JNT 0.503851 +13 0 IO90iv +23 0.200 F6CNI JN19qb 391 243 2009-11-26 22:06 G4JNT 0.503850 +10 0 IO90iv +23 0.200 F6CNI JN19qb 391 243 That's a very good signal - Quiet rural location ???? Andy www.g4jnt.com This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health and safety police From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (rly-dc06.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.35]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC101-b2c4affccee94; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 04:42:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC068-b2c4affccee94; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 04:42:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9bbN-0005C7-R8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:40:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9bbN-0005By-FY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:40:57 +0000 Received: from out1.ip09ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.245]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9bbM-0008UR-S3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:40:57 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AswEAHtb/0pOlv8G/2dsb2JhbACCIyyBaolbBsNLhDwE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,745,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="219194374" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.255.6]) by out1.ip09ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 15 Nov 2009 09:40:49 +0000 Message-ID: <034d01ca65d7$bb039a70$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:40:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: 500 dx Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_034A_01CA65D7.BA985580" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_034A_01CA65D7.BA985580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MF grp Yesteray evening some cw DX acty fm ON4KTJ, EI0CF also SP2BXI xband 50= 0/7033 and VX9MRC beacon mode CW 507.7 as early as 1950 utc G3KEV =20 ------=_NextPart_000_034A_01CA65D7.BA985580 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
MF grp
Yesteray evening some cw DX acty= fm ON4KTJ,=20 EI0CF also SP2BXI xband 500/7033 and VX9MRC beacon mode CW 507.7&= nbsp;as=20 early as 1950 utc
 G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_034A_01CA65D7.BA985580-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de01.mx.aol.com (rly-de01.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.137]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE021-4b34afb030c2d3; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:31:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE018-4b34afb030c2d3; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:31:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8Hxs-0003sj-1B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:30:44 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8Hxp-0003sa-Sd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:30:41 +0000 Received: from smtpa1.mediabeam.com ([194.25.41.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8Hxm-0005JM-OQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:30:41 +0000 Received: from r300-1 (balancer4.mediabeam.com [194.25.41.40]) by smtpa1.mediabeam.com (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id nABIUWbq000669 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:30:32 +0100 From: "Uwe Jannsen" To: Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:30:30 Message-ID: <1AC807D90B0B121E1F9A@kabelmail.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-PRIORITY: 3 X-Spam-Score: 1.8 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,INVALID_DATE=1.76 Subject: LF: what is it? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi all, pse see: http://dj8wx-dl.de/captu38 regards Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC053-b354b028eed196; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 06:54:33 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC081-b354b028eed196; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 06:54:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAMcU-0002Y3-GC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:53:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAMcU-0002Xu-3I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:53:14 +0000 Received: from out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.242]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAMcT-000797-En for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:53:14 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgEFAOIdAktZ8fSs/2dsb2JhbACCIS2LRwbISoQ7BA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,758,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="241089586" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([89.241.244.172]) by out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 17 Nov 2009 11:53:07 +0000 Message-ID: <002801ca677c$88b21be0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <1f0624b90911160805u4435bd18ue805924594d8b997@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:53:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0025_01CA677C.884E02E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01CA677C.884E02E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gary MRC peaks 569 with me most evenings with deep qsb, but long enough dur= ation on peaks for a CW qso. The signal is visible/audible early evening. You should have no diffic= ulty having a qso. The same applies to the East. Yesterday my signal was solid on the Mos= cow grabber at 1600 utc daylight here unfortunately Andrey was not ava= ilable for a xband qso, but we have worked before. 73 gl de mal/g3kev =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 To: Rsgb_Lf_Group=20 Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 4:05 PM Subject: LF: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6 Hi All, Good signals from both stations last night. Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01CA677C.884E02E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Gary
MRC peaks 569 with me most evenings= with deep qsb,=20 but long enough duration on peaks for a CW qso.
The signal is visible/audible ea= rly evening.=20 You should have no difficulty having a qso.
The same applies to the East. Yesterd= ay my signal=20 was solid on the Moscow grabber at 1600 utc daylight here unfortu= nately=20 Andrey was not available for a xband qso, but we have worked=20 before.
73 gl de mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 16, 20= 09 4:05=20 PM
Subject: LF: 500kHz VX9MRC &a= mp;=20 WE2XGR/6

Hi All,

Good signals from both stations last night.

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.
------=_NextPart_000_0025_01CA677C.884E02E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (rly-dg05.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.89]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG074-5c64b015c4c99; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:06:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG053-5c64b015c4c99; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:06:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA2CU-0005lX-Ib for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:05:02 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA2CU-0005lO-4q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:05:02 +0000 Received: from web28106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA2CT-0000Um-Um for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:05:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 83129 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Nov 2009 14:04:56 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1258380296; bh=g+0L+XCE8AzoIqc99+qW2ng926TRlDkuXyAvRwKJOEw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LwXKzuJMkAcIzz/7FOeiVUamlyuaP2kXgfg9wCvBy09BsHTS34KK25BeGB/PMrjHS5pVQlYm1Jqu9CfJnhQS2dm86jhkwV7vRUSU9EmWKFF1xHqEaO4YSbn9F5BPTgybq6AoLl3tuX26iDy0p+Fl+tjIeEoixOBGnuxcYkbLy68= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jE7/f7uXTxFxTBc9Dd8FCW7oUboTv7ldlQ3wFKxD4DL8qNlV6jHwII+pQqRQ/HJJG5gWd6dx5gV3VFRQGvErXmQ9Ajb90ma8mlr2oxASXcwbS9v9yfDObv153/UEgni7S3IVBvpEekWenmtuYv/B+21JrVOjVb8znrz20Mn7U4k=; Message-ID: <156312.82635.qm@web28106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Qm463MYVM1kbOlRYUO2odPk_gsi8sSicXnHVwF30Zc.K9wmHCmMaylTRscB0MTBIyiprDWpN9XkAG.ZBywRDCeK8vSvADGLcUkg.stcuAfeGB4Rn2JZ1auGwm2v3NVXz8rYeWdrwsdRlH_Z38J6231jrs8qmX8.GB9hsNXPY3edXk2T6HgfMNVi4xrd4_UY7wz5VGQzqR9ng3SLrSo3O5FmOX3aBCu_tw_4tPTDVE5E.Xx1EUcnJzGRk.Knb80JEw2t4MRBwp71bV62KKNloeKzW__TMnr_u1pOabllht1tOw9yoWE.MD2LU5dAXXzGvqLP9qQ-- Received: from [86.137.246.146] by web28106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 06:04:55 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 06:04:55 -0800 (PST) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <4B0146C0.5090001@usa.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: G7NKS - Double Side Band: wspr? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1147280561-1258380295=:82635" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d298.1 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-1147280561-1258380295=:82635 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Veeeery interesting Alberto =A0 Would that give me 192 Kc/s of tunable band width on my SDR radio given th= e right software? There has been a lot of debate on the softrock reflector but this one seem= s to quite good. Do you have first hand experience of it? Christmas is com= ing ...hee hee. =A0 73 petefmt --- On Mon, 16/11/09, Alberto di Bene wrote: From: Alberto di Bene Subject: Re: LF: G7NKS - Double Side Band: wspr? To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Monday, 16 November, 2009, 12:34 M0FMT wrote: > OK too bad you can't resolve it with your existing Sound Card. >=A0 When considering a USB SC think about SDR (the future of Ham Radio).= M-Audio is considered a good card but see M0KGK's site for comparison wit= h the Creative Labs Sound Blaster Live a cost effective solution (these ar= e still available although production I believe has now ceased). >=A0=A0=A0http://www.m0kgk.co.uk/sdr/soundcards.php If somebody is in search of a good external USB audio adapter, this one is= very good. I have one and I am satisfied with it, Can be found at less than 100 Euro. http://tinyurl.com/27sgj4 73=A0 Alberto=A0 I2PHD =20 --0-1147280561-1258380295=:82635 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Veeeery interesting Alberto
 
Would that give me 192 Kc/s of tunable band width on my SDR radio giv= en the right software?
There has been a lot of debate on the softrock= reflector but this one seems to quite good. Do you have first hand experi= ence of it? Christmas is coming ...hee hee.
 
73 petefmt
--- On Mon, 16/11/09, Alberto di Bene <dibene@= usa.net> wrote:

From: Alberto di Bene <dibene@usa.net>Subject: Re: LF: G7NKS - Double Side Band: wspr?
To: rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.org
Date: Monday, 16 November, 2009, 12:34

M0FMT wrote:

> OK too bad you can't resol= ve it with your existing Sound Card.
>  When considering a USB= SC think about SDR (the future of Ham Radio). M-Audio is considered a goo= d card but see M0KGK's site for comparison with the Creative Labs Sound Bl= aster Live a cost effective solution (these are still available although= production I believe has now ceased).
>   http://www.m0k= gk.co.uk/sdr/soundcards.php

If somebody is in search of a good= external USB audio adapter, this one is very good.
I have one and I am= satisfied with it, Can be found at less than 100 Euro.

http://tinyurl.com/27sgj4
73  Alberto  I2PHD



=20 --0-1147280561-1258380295=:82635-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de12.mx.aol.com (rly-de12.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.148]) by air-de03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE032-5204afd892c3c5; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:28:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE127-5204afd892c3c5; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:28:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8yzd-0003hO-KI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:27:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8yzc-0003hC-Ca for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:27:24 +0000 Received: from mail-yw0-f193.google.com ([209.85.211.193]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8yza-0007fQ-QI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:27:24 +0000 Received: by ywh31 with SMTP id 31so6593772ywh.30 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:27:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4vHzq0JKKMKEuD1l+/GJmfyyPM6emlVPtVyRnGTtYQY=; b=vPe02yeBrFrZ12cJkxcZASTj4/LovdfufzRSQ1Ox/buWs2Ny4YddSPicOL/D7FDDoW EG4wY7MST2F/lIe/ibShcHBoNWqDvbwiYjkrrac5TIiljpNAkdDC1LXIyi0rJF0KTQUf wZb6JAnn3g93WHhRXjUvYO1Jj5pdlfCPwl0+s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=H9hP3U7SkH0PfnwrMaVWqavLkJUGHUMQc6Dv7mSxCJBsQxrN0xSJRNZnwdTJVC+F0g 4qhbJJ2RJk+UyekwR/0X9ArADSrk3ZqpeHSUBw64wOhQi+mbi1IZ4cMJKEKKR9vnZJLL vxgtZpaR7cUkD1Z6XtPkWk6HY8UlNRUaU+1sM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.129.28 with SMTP id b28mr8195466ybd.318.1258129634418; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:27:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <961313.39040.qm@web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <961313.39040.qm@web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:27:14 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70911130827m3e839c7j50acd462e3966486@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd3704af0e2430478432141 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m274.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0cd3704af0e2430478432141 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Pete, I don't know anything about "Pirates" on 500kHz. or even why you would raise the issue. I have valid FCC issued Experimental licenses for 500 (also 137 and 160-190kHz). These are classified as Experimental not "Commercial" -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:17 AM, M0FMT wrote: > Hi LF Group > > Putting Quantum Mechanics aside for a mo. I know this is bit academic > since my chance of working the Americas on 500 is pretty remote but are > these stations Amateurs or not Amateurs? Are they actually Pirating but > using a commercial call? > > The whole setup looks decidedly dodgy to me. If they are Pirates how would > it affect my license if the opportunity arose for me to work one and I did? > The only place I know where I am licensed work a non Amateur station is on > 5megs and that can only be a UK Mill station. > > It's a question of how much you value your license I suppose. > > 73 petefmt > > > --- On *Fri, 13/11/09, Graham * wrote: > > > From: Graham > Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature > stations ?? > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 14:53 > > > Scott > > SO.... Matter and antimatter cannot coexist at close range for more than a > small fraction of a second because they collide with and annihilate each > other, releasing large quantities of energy in the form of gamma rays > > Got it now .. gamma rays are electromagnetic ..hence radio waves are > produced .. which may suffer (constructive interference) or (destructive > interference) resulting in large variations in amplitude at the point of > observation ..... > > Thanks ! > > G .. > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Scott Tilley" > > > Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:29 PM > To: > > > Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature > stations ?? > > > > > Hi John > > > > VX is in developmental service (same idea as US stations), EI in amateur > service... Like positive and negative antimatter they don't mix. > > > > 73 Scott > > > > > > John P-G wrote: > >> Scott Tilley wrote: > >>> Hi Graham > >>> > >>> All Canadian 600m stations are operating under COMMERCIAL Developmental > Licenses and are not able to communicate with the Amateur Service. > >> > >> So VX9MRC shouldn't be having regular CW QSOs with EI0CF? > >> > >> Still confused.... > >> > >> John > >> GM4SLV > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > --000e0cd3704af0e2430478432141 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pete,

=A0=A0 I don't know anything about "Pirates" on= 500kHz. or even why you would raise the issue.

I have valid FCC is= sued Experimental licenses for 500 (also 137 and 160-190kHz).
These are= classified as Experimental not "Commercial"

--
73 Warren K2ORS
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WD2XGJ
= =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WD2XSH/23
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0WE2XEB/2
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WE2XGR/1



On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:17 AM, M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>= ; wrote:
Hi LF Group
=A0
Putting Quantum Mechanics aside for a mo. I know this is bit ac= ademic since my chance of working the Americas on 500 is pretty remote but= are these stations Amateurs or not Amateurs? Are they actually Pirating= but using a commercial call?
=A0
The whole setup looks=A0decidedly dodgy to me. If they are Pira= tes how would it affect my license if the opportunity arose for me to work= one and I did? The only place I know where I am licensed work a non Amate= ur station is on 5megs and that=A0can only be a UK Mill station.
=A0
It's a question of how much you value your license I suppos= e.
=A0
73 petefmt


--- On Fri, 13/11/09, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>= wrote:

From: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsn= et.co.uk>
Subject: Re: LF: Are the= new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ??
To: rsgb_lf_group@b= lacksheep.org
Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 14:53


Scott

SO.... Matter and antimatter cannot coexist at close ran= ge for more than a small fraction of a second because they collide with an= d annihilate each other, releasing large quantities of energy in the form= of gamma rays

Got it=A0 now .. gamma rays are electromagnetic ..hence radio waves ar= e produced .. which may suffer=A0 (constructive interference) or (destruct= ive interference) resulting in large variations in amplitude at the point= of observation .....

Thanks=A0 !

G ..

---------------------------------------= -----------
From: "Scott Tilley" <st= hed475@telus.net>
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:29 PM
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Subject: Re: LF: Are the= =A0 new VE stations able to=A0 qso=A0 with=A0 other amature stations ??
>
> Hi John
>
> VX is in developmental service= (same idea as US stations), EI in amateur service... Like positive and ne= gative antimatter they don't mix.
>
> 73 Scott
> >
> John P-G wrote:
>> Scott Tilley wrote:
>>&= gt; Hi Graham
>>>
>>> All Canadian 600m stations= are operating under COMMERCIAL Developmental Licenses and are not able to= communicate with the Amateur Service.
>>
>> So VX9MRC shouldn't be having regular CW QSOs wi= th EI0CF?
>>
>> Still confused....
>>
>= > John
>> GM4SLV
>>
>>
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--000e0cd3704af0e2430478432141-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb10.mx.aol.com (rly-mb10.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.168]) by air-mb04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB043-d2e4aff2a5911; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:08:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB102-d2e4aff2a5911; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:08:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9Qm6-0001MX-Ba for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:07:18 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9Qm5-0001MO-Rs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:07:17 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9Qm4-0006U8-6m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:07:17 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DEE151C003 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:07:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 082D131E702 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:07:05 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id 8B5FE18056; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:07:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from 81.146-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (81.146-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.247.146.81]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:07:04 +0100 Message-ID: <20091114230704.m4ifek7ne4owkkgc@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:07:04 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <20091114222907.nk1lbgb1ookkwksw@webmail6.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20091114222907.nk1lbgb1ookkwksw@webmail6.kuleuven.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.247.146.81 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: G3XIZ RTTY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Chris, good copy of your 85Hz RTTY signal on 500 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA021-a984af1fadf26d; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:06:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA108-a984af1fadf26d; 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Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:05:18 +0000 Message-ID: <4AF1FA9D.8070804@virgin.net> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:05:17 +0000 From: Ian Marsh User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <9afca2640910310528p4f07557aifdc0557a68bfeff8@mail.gmail.com>, <002b01ca5c10$0ccec4f0$0201a8c0@Clemens04> <4AF1B717.31461.F2160F@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> In-Reply-To: <4AF1B717.31461.F2160F@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=7b43F8AYrcwA:10 a=aSRvjw2BAAAA:8 a=CgNqllsWG-05WrqzYUIA:9 a=2GBL2JHnIdRHs7xvi9KQYDiXSw4A:4 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500kHz attenuation graphs? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Wonder if this would help. It's a free BBC document on the estimation of LF/MF broadcast service areas. There are graphs for the 200 KHz to 1500 KHz region for differing ground conductivities. It's available at: http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/reports/1975-01.pdf Older editions of the NAB Engineering Handbook at least had graphs for the MW broadcast band if I remember correctly but someone seems to have lifted our work copy and the latest edition is priced at $199. Cheers Ian / G4EXD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD022-90d4b0727e439b; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:36:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD065-90d4b0727e439b; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:36:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBd0M-0002IT-ME for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:35:06 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBd0L-0002IK-Ll for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:35:05 +0000 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net ([165.212.64.32]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBd0J-0005Tm-Kq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:35:05 +0000 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net (co02-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout02.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29A621344B8 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:34:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps03.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.132] by cmsout02.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.58V) with ESMTP id XID559NkTXI69721X02; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:34:57 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.132 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps03.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID559NkTXI69721X02 Received: from [192.168.1.4] [151.47.208.4] by cmsapps03.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.53P) with ESMTPA id 347NkTXI38240M39; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:34:54 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.208.4 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.1.4] Message-ID: <4B07279C.3030500@usa.net> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:34:52 +0100 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4B0570B4.8040209@telia.com> <955F0C15833A459FA2557314E925534C@AGB> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Z-USANET-MsgId: XID347NkTXI48240X39 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR 2.0 is now available Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Andy Talbot wrote: > Crafty. 'should' be pretty foolproof. Any old soundcard without > 48000Hz ought to just throw-up an error. Not under Windows XP.... Windows will duly and silently try to please the user of the sound card (i.e. the program) resampling at the sample rate requested. If you are not convinced, start Winrad and set the sampling rate at 192 kHz with a sound card that is not capable of that speed. You will see 192 kHz of spectrum (-96 to +96), but only the central part has some meaning, that covered by the hardware sampling rate of the card. You will also see the shape of the card's anti-aliasing filters (if any...) 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc01.mx.aol.com (rly-mc01.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.85]) by air-mc06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC061-d514b030d7f11a; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:54:50 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC011-d514b030d7f11a; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:54:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAV3F-0006AN-Jg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:53:25 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAV3F-0006AB-3S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:53:25 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAV3C-00034F-Vk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:53:25 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3537.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 96F2C1C00081 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:53:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3537.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 846B01C00088 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:53:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.24.177]) by mwinf3537.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id DFA871C00081 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:53:14 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091117205314916.DFA871C00081@mwinf3537.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <3F25D08D0AFF4CB68167DFB2839EC4D0@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <1f0624b90911160805u4435bd18ue805924594d8b997@mail.gmail.com> <20091117081718.BDD6EF3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> <4B02B081.4080003@telus.net> <57a24ca70911170629t5d073432sf5c3c06bb071d0d8@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <57a24ca70911170629t5d073432sf5c3c06bb071d0d8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:53:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Looks like a bit of 'MAL' practice to me ? G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Warren Ziegler" Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 2:29 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6 > > Lighten up Scott! > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Scott Tilley wrote: >> The first illegal ON-VX QSO. >> >> >> >> Rik Strobbe wrote: >>> >>> Gary, All, >>> >>> yesterday I could copy VX9MRC in QRSS3 with a surprising strong signal >>> as >>> early as 18 UTC, when I launched Argo. >>> Throughout the evening the signal was strong and with little QSB from >>> 19-22UTC, after that the signal became weaker with much more QSB. >>> Probably because I had a sked with Joe at 22:40 UTC ;-) . >>> But despite all we managed to complete the QSO with both way M report >>> (would have been a solid O earlier the evening). >>> A first ON-VE QSO on 500kHz and with +/- 4075km a new DX record for me >>> Joe transmitted on 507.770 and I on 501.190. >>> Between 19 and 22 UTC the signal was audible most of the time and would >>> have been CW copy if it were not squeezed between the NDB "Z" carrier at >>> 507.980 (S9+ here) the SM6BHZ CW/SSB test transmissions (up to S9) and a >>> local birdie on 507.600. >>> >>> For the QSO I was running 300W into my 11m high / 25m long lazy-L >>> antenna, >>> estimated ERP about 1.5 Watt (at best, if the greenery does not absorb >>> too >>> much) >>> >>> The night from Sunday - Monday I left Argo running, VX9MRC produced a >>> good signal all through the night and faded out at 07UTC. This would >>> mean >>> that there is a potential transatlantic path on 500kHz for 13h a day !!! >>> >>> 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >>> >>> At 17:05 16/11/2009, you wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> Good signals from both stations last night. >>>> >>>> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo. >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ > WD2XSH/23 > WE2XEB/2 > WE2XGR/1 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (rly-mg04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.110]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMG091-a0c4b0d68b6b9; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:26:30 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG046-a0c4b0d68b6b9; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:26:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDLc5-00058N-6O for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:25:09 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDLc4-00058E-5z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:25:08 +0000 Received: from smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com ([195.200.78.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDLc2-0004dJ-Mg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:25:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 5844 invoked by uid 507); 25 Nov 2009 18:24:39 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO JR) (john.rabson@numeo.fr@217.67.155.178) by smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 2009 18:24:39 +0100 Message-ID: <200911251824490725.005251CA@smtp2.numeo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:24:49 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Hand sent CW on 136 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 At about 1650z I heard what I thought was the sequence "1835". This was= followed about 10 minutes later by what sounded like "H33". =20 The signal sounded like a slightly splashy MCW (which seems most improbabl= e). It was difficult to be sure what was being sent because receiving con= ditions are not good here this evening. There is a lot of what I think is= Luxembourg effect. John Rabson=20 F5VLF 58800 Cervon France JN17vg From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME104-9ac4af5c9632b1; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:24:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME038-9ac4af5c9632b1; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:24:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6qs3-0001EJ-Dv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:22:47 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6qs2-0001EA-IE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:22:46 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6qrz-0002na-Ta for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:22:46 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 07 Nov 2009 19:22:37 -0000 Received: from 188-193-59-244-dynip.superkabel.de (EHLO Uwe) [188.193.59.244] by mail.gmx.net (mp070) with SMTP; 07 Nov 2009 20:22:37 +0100 X-Authenticated: #9373712 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/utR5pwA7uyfInl5bep5L/3Atn//gYAuflEJYQzT U+w2PBR3akhZL7 Message-ID: From: "Uwe Wensauer" To: Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:22:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.74 X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Heard EI0cf Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01CA5FE8.0B7B93E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_60_70, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01CA5FE8.0B7B93E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi , just heard EI0CF calling M0JXM 1915 UTC 50x.xx 73 Uwe, dk1kq Jo43iu ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01CA5FE8.0B7B93E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi ,
just heard EI0CF calling M0JXM
1915 UTC
50x.xx
 
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F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME043-9c44b080b2262; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:45:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME068-9c44b080b2262; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:45:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBs8p-0006hs-EA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:44:51 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBs8o-0006hj-OS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:44:50 +0000 Received: from web28102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.122]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBs8o-0001Xf-I0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:44:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 21799 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Nov 2009 15:44:45 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1258818285; bh=CGUrVIX5in/BC4dgwrh5aYq7tkhHVg89hxkKw02+c3w=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qPANyEBIUdb/dIjpX94WYTs//zA8RYMRRW9fO7TuoQuC2ECsw+EL2WpGgOy37O4ha7zjcwrHxMlMVW5ip5KzsUCZ/8yA89GUzI8mUaR5Fb1n2NJ3sauMtZCrCpw3szSanIfuLE5BijX2QQ5EV/57iDlXlaaREy5CfrtPaptR1/o= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XE7dmGS1pGDYoKR/z8Jf/6pGJ+NunVUCSHihRFoqafbDyCZnQr/D3lDBt3X7QaBu8cmtQZN3MRwnhpAp2EcDPr32MNroWXWucV9Q2WVWUJPEQHdO3wGZJ3dAJlc/RNPsFUbYizuDvAg3syT6m6Mtv5FynEwo5SDraXL/yQLWzN4=; Message-ID: <11159.21786.qm@web28102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 7lXijS0VM1kRQMz5G6ox_4W9lnm6GUgkgN2y3nqKFzyC3XwIukAEe3fC7LMwNVcjXgx4Ni4hUlcPtF6x84rubsvcdOdWxJbwFcKBDjLThwq9Du4ZQWLHU3Osti44KFJLHJ6fdt2a9OXr6N91pE62jSLmTbxc0SEtiHN7VzqbEKEg4YD5.tuZBpxmHAXV6IGFIhsc2OvyxAt4.j_JeCCcq._SHLW.jezcFdPFswpRBWX6Px3HaSLWPVSsq1VkRNpzDVVgx44EQ1fA540xh7RPgAnO28P9xBhexeYFnwxzgjk45NwqQehtwSHv5GW_ykWdcK36ixiRKZFeOQ-- Received: from [86.140.72.176] by web28102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:44:44 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:44:44 +0000 (GMT) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-350890835-1258818284=:21786" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d272.1 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-350890835-1258818284=:21786 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0 Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? =A0 (Philip=A0K Dick 1928 -1982) =A0 =A0 73 petefmt --- On Sat, 21/11/09, Graham wrote: From: Graham Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Saturday, 21 November, 2009, 14:35 Can only=A0 dream of=A0 working dx like this=A0 on cw=A0 ... 2009-11-21 13:54=A0=A0=A09M3KKR=A0=A0=A00.503906=A0=A0=A0-23=A0=A0=A01=A0= =A0=A0OL69=A0=A0=A01000=A0=A0=A0G3ZJO=20 IO92ng=A0=A0=A08894=A0=A0=A0325 mind=A0 you=A0 after=A0 watching the=A0 movie=A0 ...perhaps=A0 machine's= can dream as=20 well=A0 ? G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "James Cowburn" Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 2:12 PM To: Subject: RE: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO > > How do you know they are unattended? > > > Jim > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton > Sent: 21 November 2009 14:05 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO > > Two unattended machines had a QSO!!=A0 Is that what you mean. > g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andy Talbot" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 1:52 PM > Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO > > > CanI suggest you read thoroughly the documentation on how the mode > works before making claims about the database.and validity.=A0=A0=A0The > database can only be updated by stations decoding and reportoing, and > if each QSO partner has a reciprocal report in the database for > near-adjacent time intervals , then they MUST have been in contact > with eachother and cannot be classed as anything bu a valid QSO. Its > impossible to have achieved this in any other way. > > Please read all the documentation first. > > Andy > www.g4jnt.com > > This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health > and safety police > > > > 2009/11/21 Wolf Ostwald : >> Hello group ! >> >> >> >> I am not an expert with WSPR at all. But I followed the discussion > regarding >> false detection of calls thru the database. >> >> To my understanding the WSPR operator has NO way to really find out > whether >> the computer came to the right conclusion about the calls received, or >> whether it just judged by means of plausibility. We humans have no sens= e > for >> phaseshift, that means we have to believe the machine. >> >> I think that the database in the background is like a walking stick for > the >> blind. >> >> Of course it's a new and exciting technology, but I doubt that it is on > one >> and the same level with a regular exchange and therefore should not be >> considered equally verifying a valid contact. >> >> My two pence worth de wolf df2py >> >> > > > > >=20 =20 --0-350890835-1258818284=:21786 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?
 
(Philip K Dick 1928 -1982)
 
 
73 petefmt

--- On Sat, 21/11/09, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.= fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

From: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o= rg
Date: Saturday, 21 November, 2009, 14:35

Can only  dream of  working dx like this&= nbsp; on cw  ...

2009-11-21 13:54   9M3KKR = ;  0.503906   -23   1  &= nbsp;OL69   1000   G3ZJO
IO92ng &nb= sp; 8894   325

mind  you  after = watching the  movie  ...perhaps  machine's can dream as well  ?

G ..

----------------------------------------= ----------
From: "James Cowburn" <james.cowburn@virgin.net>
Sent: Saturday, No= vember 21, 2009 2:12 PM
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Subject: RE= : LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO

>
> How do you know they are unattended?
><= BR>>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
> -----Original= Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>= [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton=
> Sent: 21 November 2009 14:05
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
= > Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO
>
> Two unattended= machines had a QSO!!  Is that what you mean.
> g3kev
>> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> To:= <rsgb_lf= _group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 1:= 52 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO
>
>
&g= t; CanI suggest you read thoroughly the documentation on how the mode
&= gt; works before making claims about the database.and validity.  = ; The
> database can only be updated by stations decoding and= reportoing, and
> if each QSO partner has a reciprocal report in th= e database for
> near-adjacent time intervals , then they MUST have= been in contact
> with eachother and cannot be classed as anything= bu a valid QSO. Its
> impossible to have achieved this in any other way.
>> Please read all the documentation first.
>
> Andy
>= ; www.g4jnt.com
>
> This email has been scanned for damaging= side-effects by the health
> and safety police
>
>
&= gt;
> 2009/11/21 Wolf Ostwald <df2py@t-online.de>:
>> Hello group !
>>
= >>
>>
>> I am not an expert with WSPR at all. But= I followed the discussion
> regarding
>> false detection= of calls thru the database.
>>
>> To my understanding= the WSPR operator has NO way to really find out
> whether
>&g= t; the computer came to the right conclusion about the calls received, or<= BR>>> whether it just judged by means of plausibility. We humans hav= e no sense
> for
>> phaseshift, that means we have to believe the machine.>>
>> I think that the database in the background is like= a walking stick for
> the
>> blind.
>>
>>= ; Of course it's a new and exciting technology, but I doubt that it is on<= BR>> one
>> and the same level with a regular exchange and the= refore should not be
>> considered equally verifying a valid cont= act.
>>
>> My two pence worth de wolf df2py
>><= BR>>>
>
>
>
>
>



=

=20 --0-350890835-1258818284=:21786-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md08.mx.aol.com (rly-md08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.146]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMD034-91b4b0dba99217; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:15:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD083-91b4b0dba99217; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:15:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDR46-0000dA-SW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:14:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDR46-0000d1-Fh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:14:26 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDR45-0004iu-IJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:14:26 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so193275bwz.4 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:14:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=hr+GtN3Y+06fAvw8F3mtYDIRk5swPHpLd7ZR+OlqeM4=; b=v8NAMwD64SAjOdE85DZTGUdWXA8j8DS7Is3Qf+rKdKcjpJi6M6e5GY7TLHA6Sbq57S ZK/vKBlfJbmC57rwkSzJlxGriwXhZ1g8JlkfhSEbcoNIBtFQrQ9LS05ay/Rgz2z0qbcC LvZb1UofCCS79jNliXCp+iBXJcAjMXvCV1Q30= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=bni3l4gwjc4DtgCiOqNQPf6uNOc4dsh/tRuE/+FIAw2fMeD4/WnIIgUXZsVV00FVnP vZQ/QhS4QtDeqv32hIGm8mQzH2Qv5C4Q4grbFpBeLPy2CQfDae/dTR0pW7EknKq/+Trk s/JhGLyEbZM4hxRUKDRIVplKA6wsVfgaGyiTk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.32.213 with SMTP id e21mr8320881bkd.34.1259190859342; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:14:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:14:19 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911251514l75c85489r33e7994d8befa20e@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500kHz FET PA advice - thanks everyone Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00032555f786e0227004793a37d2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d259.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --00032555f786e0227004793a37d2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thank you to all the people who have given me advice, both via this group and by direct email, on FET PAs for 500kHz. There has been a LOT of good information and too many emails to reply to everyone individually. Also, offers of FETs for which I am grateful, but that I must decline. The ham spirit is well and truly alive here - thank you everyone. First class! 73s Roger G3XBM -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --00032555f786e0227004793a37d2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you to all the people who have given me advice, both via this group= and by direct email, on FET PAs for 500kHz. There has been a LOT of good= information and too many emails to reply to everyone individually. Also,= offers of FETs for which I am grateful, but that I must decline.

The ham spirit is well and truly alive here - thank you everyone. Firs= t class!

73s
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--00032555f786e0227004793a37d2-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (rly-mf06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.176]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF101-9654af7433f230; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:16:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF063-9654af7433f230; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:16:33 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7G2b-0001Hr-9g for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:15:21 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7G2a-0001Hi-Lv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:15:20 +0000 Received: from ipmail03.adl6.internode.on.net ([203.16.214.141]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7G2Y-0006sD-37 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:15:20 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq4EAP7Q9kqWZXoy/2dsb2JhbACCJC2IDoMiBssmhD4EgWg Received: from ppp122-50.static.internode.on.net (HELO HPt680a) ([150.101.122.50]) by ipmail03.adl6.internode.on.net with SMTP; 09 Nov 2009 08:45:10 +1030 Message-ID: <6A656AA6110E48E7B7A82CF75975256D@HPt680a> From: "VK2ZTO" To: References: <019f01ca6061$34a80040$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <9afca2640911080333n583d3ec3r31f5b21e4d047248@mail.gmail.com> <01da01ca6069$9859e060$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:15:08 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009C_01CA611D.22199C10" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_009C_01CA611D.22199C10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable G'day Grand Mal, Reluctant as I am to contribute to your constant need for cyber-oxygen= ;-) - I am curious - do you hand key your QRSS3 transmissions ? 73 Puzzled (Steve/VK2ZTO) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 10:49 PM Subject: Re: LF: WSPR Why do you not use CW to explore LF propagation, this way you get an= immediate real time report, no need for database or computer aided de= vices. Your signal is always strong enought with me for a CW QSO. What is your problem with CW ? I do not usually report BEACON acty it seems pointless to me when th= e station could engage in a realtime QSO. Mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_009C_01CA611D.22199C10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
G'day Grand Mal,
 
Reluctant as I am to contribute= to your=20 constant need for cyber-oxygen ;-) - I am curious - do you hand= key your=20 QRSS3 transmissions ?
 
73 Puzzled (Steve/VK2ZTO)
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mal=20 hamilton
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 20= 09 10:49=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: WSPR

Why do you not use CW to explo= re LF=20 propagation, this way you get an immediate real time report, no= need for=20 database or computer aided devices. Your signal is always stron= g enought=20 with me for a CW QSO.
What is your problem with CW ?
I do not usually report BEACON acty= it seems=20 pointless to me when the station could engage in a realtime QSO.
Mal/g3kev
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Hi Joe,LF
Nice capture vx9mrc with a little qrm from a ssb signal of sm6bhz,
henny pa3cpm
best 73s
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rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (rly-mf03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.173]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v125.8) with ESMTP id MAILINMF042-94b4afdd46838a; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:49:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF031-94b4afdd46838a; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:49:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N940P-0005YE-H7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:48:33 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N940P-0005Y5-3J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:48:33 +0000 Received: from out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.237]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N940N-0008Fj-AS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:48:33 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvAEACRj/UpcGmS7/2dsb2JhbACCJSuBaolYBsgahDwE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,739,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="91575297" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([92.26.100.187]) by out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 13 Nov 2009 21:48:21 +0000 Message-ID: <01aa01ca64ab$088c0620$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:48:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: WEST Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01A7_01CA64AB.084204D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_01A7_01CA64AB.084204D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MF grp Anyone active now or later to the west VE/W on 500. Not qrv on 137 at present mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_01A7_01CA64AB.084204D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
MF grp
Anyone active now or later to the wes= t VE/W on=20 500.
Not qrv on 137 at present
mal/g3kev
 
------=_NextPart_000_01A7_01CA64AB.084204D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb11.mx.aol.com (rly-mb11.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.169]) by air-mb05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB054-d394afdda263b1; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:14:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB115-d394afdda263b1; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:14:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N94OJ-0005m1-Qd for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:13:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N94OJ-0005ls-Dd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:13:15 +0000 Received: from out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.243]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N94OI-0001MK-IJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:13:15 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ag4FAH9o/UpZ8PFT/2dsb2JhbACCIy2BaolYBsgahDwE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,739,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="222989498" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.241.83]) by out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 13 Nov 2009 22:13:09 +0000 Message-ID: <01cf01ca64ae$7ecb24d0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <016b01ca64a8$75cdb7e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:13:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: 500 ACTY Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01CC_01CA64AE.7E9B6240" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_01CC_01CA64AE.7E9B6240 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ps Two more in the bag SP2KDS and OK1HAS Mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 9:30 PM Subject: LF: 500 ACTY MF CW MEN A good nite so far for 500 and xband acty. Worked OZ8NJ and GM3BST on 500 and SQ5BPF, F6CNI, DL4RAJ and DF2PY xband 7033/3573. Some others got awa= y because of HF band condx. 73 and tnx to all for the CW acty de Mal/G3KEV ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.62/2499 - Release Date: 11= /12/09 14:33:00 ------=_NextPart_000_01CC_01CA64AE.7E9B6240 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
ps
Two more in the bag SP2KDS and OK1HAS=
Mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mal=20 hamilton
To: rsgb
Sent: Friday, November 13, 20= 09 9:30=20 PM
Subject: LF: 500 ACTY

MF CW MEN
A good nite so far for 500 and xban= d=20 acty.
Worked OZ8NJ and GM3BST on 500 and<= /FONT>
SQ5BPF, F6CNI, DL4RAJ and DF2PY xba= nd 7033/3573.=20 Some others got away because of HF band condx.
73 and tnx to all for the CW acty
de Mal/G3KEV
 


No virus found in this incoming message.
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------=_NextPart_000_01CC_01CA64AE.7E9B6240-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD094-b5b4afdab0f1fe; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:53:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD015-b5b4afdab0f1fe; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:53:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N91FX-0004Ym-64 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:51:59 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N91FW-0004Yd-H9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:51:58 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc2-s34.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.111.109]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N91FT-0007Nf-TO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:51:58 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W18 ([65.55.111.71]) by blu0-omc2-s34.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:51:49 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [216.137.223.53] From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China To: , Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:51:49 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <2EB15DDB42F646ABA3847BE30340C567@MAINDELL> References: <2EB15DDB42F646ABA3847BE30340C567@MAINDELL> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Nov 2009 18:51:49.0123 (UTC) FILETIME=[5B2E1530:01CA6492] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_0afe014e-dff0-4efa-950d-1decbeee93f6_" Subject: LF: Alaska X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_0afe014e-dff0-4efa-950d-1decbeee93f6_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Unfortunately I have to go back to work but Ill leave the grabber on NDB= slow mode >506 and above, within my rx filter capabailities. http://kl1x.= com/dx00000.jpg until I get to China and start playing with the AK receiver in a few days= time. =20 youll see some variable ac drive noise bands come up occasionally too. =20 R75 K9AY 2 loops set for Omni =20 73 =20 Laurence WE2XPQ Wasilla Palmer Alaska =20 http://kl1x.com Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ --_0afe014e-dff0-4efa-950d-1decbeee93f6_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
 Unfortunately I have to go back to work but Ill leave= the grabber on NDB slow mode >506 and above, within my rx filter capab= ailities. http://kl1x.com/dx00000.= jpg
until I get to China and start playing with the AK receiver in= a few days time.
 
youll see some variable ac drive noise band= s come up occasionally too.
 
R75 K9AY 2 loops set for Omni
=  
73
 
Laurence WE2XPQ Wasilla Palmer Alaska
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Hotmail: Trusted= email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. =3D --_0afe014e-dff0-4efa-950d-1decbeee93f6_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD083-b5f4b0899e5a3; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:54:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD021-b5f4b0899e5a3; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:54:47 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NC1e1-0006Fs-U7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:53:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NC1e1-0006Fj-IF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:53:41 +0000 Received: from smtp23.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.19]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NC1e0-0003kD-Vy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:53:41 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2302.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 833C67000087 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:53:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (12.229.197-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.197.229.12]) by msfrf2302.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 4E5597000084 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:53:37 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091122015337320.4E5597000084@msfrf2302.sfr.fr Message-ID: <003001ca6b16$960e90f0$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:53:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091121-1, 21/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: sorry F8boj SP2KDS Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002D_01CA6B1E.F78945C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01CA6B1E.F78945C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HI=20 Sorry the correct call is SP2KDS good night for all good sunday F8boj QRT ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01CA6B1E.F78945C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Sorry the correct call is SP2KDS
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------=_NextPart_000_002D_01CA6B1E.F78945C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me05.mx.aol.com (rly-me05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.39]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME102-9bb4b0325f6306; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:38:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME057-9bb4b0325f6306; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:38:48 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAWgQ-0006x9-J5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:37:58 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAWgQ-0006wy-3t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:37:58 +0000 Received: from mx30.mail.ru ([94.100.176.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAWgO-0003fy-18 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:37:58 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=47015 helo=EFREMOV) by mx30.mail.ru with asmtp id 1NAWgI-0000fi-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:37:50 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <002f01ca67d6$92d3d960$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: References: <000501ca67ba$e4817db0$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <20091117232501.74fl611v28s040ss@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:37:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Jay, Rik, LF, I see periodically appearing trace on 506515. QRSS3 too quickly. In QRSS10 it would be possible to read something... 73 Andrey > Jay, > > positive id of "XGR" on 506.515 kHz, "M" report > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > > > Quoting "jrusgrove@comcast.net" : > >> T/A enthusiasts >> >> WE2XGR/2 will beacon in QRSS3 mode tonight on 506.5 kHz from ~ 2130 to ~ >> 0030 Z. Reports appreciated. >> >> Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 >> >> >> > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB031-ae34b05d52f220; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:31:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB091-ae34b05d52f220; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:30:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBGRs-0003k3-Lb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:30:00 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBGRs-0003ju-3l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:30:00 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBGRq-0005TB-0X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:30:00 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3402.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 969611C00081 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:29:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3402.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 893E41C00082 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:29:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.25.208]) by mwinf3402.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 465201C00081 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:29:51 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091119232951288.465201C00081@mwinf3402.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:29:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Soft Rock for 500 Khz where to buy ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_018C_01CA6970.30816340" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_018C_01CA6970.30816340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All . Where can a Soft Rock rx for 500 Khz be purchased from ./ Or do you need to modify a 455 Khz version for 500 ? If so .. where from a 455khz version ? Tnx-=20 Graham ..=20 ------=_NextPart_000_018C_01CA6970.30816340 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
All .
 
Where  can a Soft Rock rx for&nb= sp; 500 =20 Khz be  purchased from ./
 
Or  do  you  need = ; to =20 modify a 455 Khz version for 500 ?
If so .. where from a 455khz version= ?
 
Tnx-
 
Graham ..


------=_NextPart_000_018C_01CA6970.30816340-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df06.mx.aol.com (rly-df06.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.19]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF074-55c4b0b0ace121; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:21:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF067-55c4b0b0ace121; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:21:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NChGV-0002rR-58 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:20:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NChGU-0002rI-PO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:20:10 +0000 Received: from mail-gx0-f228.google.com ([209.85.217.228]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NChGU-0005kI-3l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:20:10 +0000 Received: by gxk28 with SMTP id 28so5367638gxk.9 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:20:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=tHnFwNw9vkDbQXezvXFnL+EFQ3dFcF16/c7Z3kwj48w=; b=g2mRshLic4OJ/vYFahsJ4IvJWI4cKicvh/kW07pwOJJJI80ubuix4GKAC5YtxLam15 Ysw9FlnD5OQmjRDBeJsLqJDe5RmdYw9PLujSgZrUYboi+uTn/MSFcef7WXFptUvqyWw9 U7yly7fUn9MdowlUBaLOxCFSvDTXk0FEfJE9g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fz2mgpeZqNfKfcPxx1NmHXvJjbHakn7vBRAdc/W1kgCWYvPB10/NL/08gQWxdqYE+S A7U+OFhh3OAewr4spi9lNNDNExs7/gFP9dXaugdFEzgkOztso08jPQZ84vYSXV78J+H/ APTDfUBQyWoh0slImcp+yLT4gLplEshY5TxF4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.4.9 with SMTP id 9mr9648942ybd.44.1259014800262; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:20:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B0B0774.7000304@online.fr> References: <57a24ca70911231159k557ba717lbb0cf31cc7eb6e70@mail.gmail.com> <4B0B0774.7000304@online.fr> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:20:00 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70911231420g41527072u8a49b156731352f2@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WD2XGJ Off 11/24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m230.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thanks Jean-Pierre, Yes one last transmission before 0000 UTC ! WD2XGJ now off for tonight. --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:06 PM, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" wrote: > Hi =A0Warren, > > Ok , but for the moment XGJ is very strong here ! > Look on the grabber ! > > 73 qro J-P f1afj > > Warren Ziegler a =E9crit : >> >> WD2XGJ will be off tonight. >> >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db06.mx.aol.com (rly-db06.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.81]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB033-ad14b06eb5a4f; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:18:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB067-ad14b06eb5a4f; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:17:48 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBYyX-0000tc-I1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:16:57 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBYyX-0000tQ-0G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:16:57 +0000 Received: from mta41.charter.net ([216.33.127.83]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBYyU-000404-U8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:16:56 +0000 Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta41.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.02.04 201-2219-117-106-20090629) with ESMTP id <20091120191648.OFGH23932.mta41.charter.net@imp11> for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:16:48 -0500 Received: from mp17 ([209.225.8.247]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id 7XGo1d00E5Knl7V05XGoqd; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:16:48 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=nN7BH9HXAAAA:8 a=KJuMOR62k6A1jPDBWuQA:9 a=vfnV1Wk-kSl6EQwdJwIA:7 a=Nrh_hHenP88MXCrUh0kaCeL0w1QA:4 a=muIvw5a9-cgA:10 Message-ID: <20091120141648.8WGQY.1557635.root@mp17> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:16:48 -0800 From: To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <007301ca6a13$6bd95ad0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: from 64.206.3.50 by ssomail.charter.net; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:16:48 -0500 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Re: WD2XES WSPR 136.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thanks for the suggestion, but I doubt it will cause you any more interference than it has for the last 5 years. From our perspective, the lower end of the band has long been reserved for EU to NA operation. John, W1TAG ---- mal hamilton wrote: > om I woud suggest you Beacon at the extreme bottom end of the band and not > in the middle of the CW and QRS DX portion. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb02.mx.aol.com (rly-mb02.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.155]) by air-mb08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB082-cf34b06e70b17d; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:59:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB027-cf34b06e70b17d; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:59:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBYge-0000Xk-LU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:58:28 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBYge-0000Xa-6e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:58:28 +0000 Received: from out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.239]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBYgc-0003rU-3C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:58:28 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAP51BktZ8Ex6/2dsb2JhbACERcAQkFOBMII4VAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,260,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="108023534" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([89.240.76.122]) by out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 20 Nov 2009 18:58:18 +0000 Message-ID: <007301ca6a13$6bd95ad0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <20091120134448.AZWVG.1555689.root@mp17> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:58:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WD2XES WSPR 136.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 om I woud suggest you Beacon at the extreme bottom end of the band and not in the middle of the CW and QRS DX portion. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 6:44 PM Subject: LF: WD2XES WSPR 136.0 > WD2XES will be running a WSPR beacon for the next two evenings. Set your receiver for 136.0 kHz USB -- I will be on 137.577 kHz. The start time tonight (Friday) will be around 2345 UTC, and hopefully earlier on Saturday night. The transmit time will be set for 50%, and company from either side of the pond would be welcome. Assuming no problems, it will run until 1100Z the next morning. > > Reports are always welcome by email or the MEPT spot database. > > John, W1TAG/WD2XES > FN42ch > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de06.mx.aol.com (rly-de06.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.142]) by air-de06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE064-4df4af74ccc38e; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:57:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE062-4df4af74ccc38e; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:57:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7GgG-0001We-Bn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:56:20 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7GgF-0001WV-M5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:56:19 +0000 Received: from out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.244]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7GgD-00072c-2Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:56:19 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqkEABPb9kpcHccI/2dsb2JhbACEOtUZhD4EgWg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,704,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="212607643" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([92.29.199.8]) by out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 08 Nov 2009 22:56:07 +0000 Message-ID: <02c801ca60c6$aa5e0540$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <027601ca60a2$841cd150$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <020b01ca60a9$4495adc0$0201a8c0@Clemens04> <029701ca60af$4f444d20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <4AF73120.6070007@telus.net> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:56:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Sri Scott I do not use beacon mode only QSO mode. If you want to try xband let me know your QRG on HF. I have worked VE7 on every band from 1.8 - 28 Mcs. Only CW or QRS3 tx this end. 73 de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" To: Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 8:59 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: WSPR > Hey Mal > > Would you consider firing up a QRSS beacon for a couple of hours before > and during your sunrise in the NA waterhole 137778.0Hz +/- 3Hz? > > DCF39 has been audible for the last couple of nights and it may be our > time to get a signal from EU into the west coast of NA. I'd like to see > how the path works while open and see whether there is a possibility of > QSO in the future. > > Here's your chance at another first... > > TU es 73 > Scott > > > mal hamilton wrote: >> Two points >> >> Why waste 2.4 kHz when QRS only needs a few Hz with a better S/N ratio. >> >> You agree that a faint trace is visible. If this faint trace was QRS >> mode only a few Hz bandwidth would be necessary to read the >> intellegence and the signal/noise would be superior. >> G3KEV >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clemens Paul" >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 7:23 PM >> Subject: LF: Re: WSPR >> >> >>> Mal, >>> >>>> WSPR reports amongst stns indicate reception reports usually minus >>>> dB. Most of these >>>> stations are usually PLUS >>>> dB with me or very close to that figure. >>> >>> WSPR refers the indicated SNR to a BW of 2,4kHz. >>> So if your receiving BW is say 100Hz your actual SNR is better by >>> ~14dB than WSPR >>> reports. >>> >>>> A trace of the signal is visible long before a decode takes place, >>>> therefore why >>>> not use QRS in >>> >the first place. >>> >>> This may be an issue of your RX/soundcard setup. >>> I can assure you that with my Perseus SDR RX,set to a RBW of less >>> than one Hertz >>> for the display,I can decode every WSPR signal which shows even only >>> a faint trace on >>> the waterfall diagram. >>> At least this is my experience so far. >>> >>> 73 >>> Clemens >>> DL4RAJ >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: mal hamilton >>> To: rsgb >>> Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 7:37 PM >>> Subject: LF: WSPR >>> >>> >>> WSPR reports amongst stns indicate reception reports usually minus >>> dB. Most of these stations >>> are usually PLUS dB with me or very close to that figure. >>> So what does that prove. I would say it depends on the RX antenna and >>> not necessarily >>> propagation. A large antenna yields better results than a small loop >>> or active whip. >>> When I switch from my 1/4 wave inv L for 500 khz to a smaller 40 m >>> resonated loop for 500 the >>> signals then do go down to a minus db figure. >>> So what is all this all ABOUT ? >>> There is also the TX pwr to consider. Two transmitters from the same >>> location one using QRO >>> and the other QRP will be received at different levels at a specified >>> RX location. There is a >>> lot of misrepresentation and misleading information by WSPR operator >>> A trace of the signal is visible long before a decode takes place, >>> therefore why not use QRS >>> in the first place. >>> >>> G3KEV >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.55/2489 - Release Date: >>> 11/08/09 07:37:00 >>> >>> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.55/2489 - Release Date: >> 11/08/09 07:37:00 >> >> >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.55/2489 - Release Date: 11/08/09 07:37:00 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (rly-ma05.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.49]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA043-8ad4b04152156; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:39:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA057-8ad4b04152156; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:39:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAmbf-0002g8-LC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:38:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAmbf-0002fz-3E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:38:07 +0000 Received: from out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.243]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAmbd-0002ZA-0u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:38:07 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqkEAKejA0tZ8PBN/2dsb2JhbACCIS+LKQbIXIQ7BA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,765,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="235376767" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([89.240.240.77]) by out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 18 Nov 2009 15:37:59 +0000 Message-ID: <002201ca6865$1c55a180$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <20091118085815.7282031E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <477782.43526.qm@web28104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <20091118102656.11BAD31E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <20091118145534.2BE5D31E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:38:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz in Belgium Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001F_01CA6865.1C047440" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01CA6865.1C047440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rik What ITU document contains the definition that digital modes are teleg= raphy. The official handbook issued by HM STATIONARY OFFICE for radio= officers states that telegraphy is on/off keyed morse code ie CW and= MCW and telephony a voice transmission. Other permitted modes fall into a= different category. G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rik Strobbe=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 2:55 PM Subject: LF: 500kHz in Belgium All, over the past weeks I received several questions wether ECC Recommen= dation T/R 61-01 includes 501-504kHz in Belgium. I asked BIPT (our Ofcom, FCC, ...) and received this answer (in Dutc= h) : Een buitenlandse titularis van een HAREC vergunning mag onder dezelf= de voorwaarden als de Belgische radioamateurs alle toegelaten klassen= van uitzending en alle frequenties gebruiken. Dan mag hij ook de frequentieband 501-504 kHz gebruiken. English translation: A foreign holder of a HAREC licence may operate under the same condi= tions as Belgian radio amateurs, using all approved modes and frequenc= ies. This includes the frequency range 501-504kHz. So it is legal to operate as ON/PAxxx/P, ON/Fxxxx/P, ON/Gxxxx/P etc. Restrictions (that of course also apply to our foreign guests): - 501-504kHz - NIB - max. 5W EIRP (not ERP !) - max. 100Hz bandwidth - only telegraphy (as per ITU definition, thus includes digital text= modes) 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T=20 ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01CA6865.1C047440 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Rik
What ITU document contains the defini= tion that=20 digital modes are telegraphy. The official handbook issued by HM STATI= ONARY=20 OFFICE for radio officers states that telegraphy is on/off keyed morse= code ie=20 CW and MCW
and telephony a voice transmission.= Other permitted=20 modes fall into a different category.
G3KEV
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Rik Strobbe
Sent: Wednesday, November 18,= 2009 2:55=20 PM
Subject: LF: 500kHz in Belgiu= m

All,

over the past weeks I received several qu= estions=20 wether ECC Recommendation T/R 61-01 includes 501-504kHz in Belgium.<= BR>
I=20 asked BIPT (our Ofcom, FCC, ...) and received this answer (in Dutch)= =20 :

Een buitenlandse titularis van een= HAREC=20 vergunning mag onder dezelfde voorwaarden als de Belgische radioamat= eurs alle=20 toegelaten klassen van uitzending en alle frequenties gebruiken.
= Dan mag=20 hij ook de frequentieband 501-504 kHz gebruiken.

E= nglish=20 translation:
A foreign holder of a HAREC licence may operate= under the=20 same conditions as Belgian radio amateurs, using all approved modes= and=20 frequencies.
This includes the frequency range 501-504kHz.
So it=20 is legal to operate as ON/PAxxx/P, ON/Fxxxx/P, ON/Gxxxx/P etc.
Re= strictions=20 (that of course also apply to our foreign guests):
- 501-504kHz-=20 NIB
- max. 5W EIRP (not ERP !)
- max. 100Hz bandwidth
- onl= y=20 telegraphy (as per ITU definition, thus includes digital text=20 modes)

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
------=_NextPart_000_001F_01CA6865.1C047440-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb03.mx.aol.com (rly-mb03.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.161]) by air-mb04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB043-cf54af80925321; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:21:00 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB031-cf54af80925321; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:20:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7TDh-0003er-IH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:19:41 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7TDg-0003ei-M6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:19:40 +0000 Received: from qmta11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.59.211]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7TDd-0002eW-HN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:19:39 +0000 Received: from OMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.19]) by QMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 2zmZ1d0040QuhwU5B0KUuY; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:19:28 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([76.23.233.102]) by OMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 30KT1d0062DDHkk3N0KTqn; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:19:28 +0000 Message-ID: <003c01ca6136$e1f55380$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <007a01ca60eb$9cb96fe0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <20091109090454.6C38331E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 06:29:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: 500 kHz TA report Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Rik Yes...EI0CF has perhaps the ideal location. Likewise VE1ZZ (VX9ZZZ) has an excellent location on this end. Unfortunately I'm well inland but at least on a 'mountain' with a good view of the distant horizon but with some trees. I've been unable to receive your WSPR signal thus far although I've only watched a few times that you've been active. SM6BHZ is the only station that is 'routine' copy. Assume you were running full power in that mode? If there is no reception on WSPR the chances for cw to make it through are virtually nil. Will keep an eye on your WSPR signal. Once that gets logged we can proceed to cw. The WE2XGR/2 cw beacon runs many evenings on 506.5 kHz. With the successesful early evening contacts with Finbar I'll start it earlier - about 2200 - 2230Z. Unfortunately, there are grabbers in the US that could be used as an indicator but they are often parked on a different part of the band. Also keep an eye open for WE2XGR/6 on 507.3 kHz. Bob is currently running about 3 dB more power than I am and routinely shows up on G4WGT grabber...my signal shows up somewhat less. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 506.5 kHz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe" To: Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:05 AM Subject: Re: LF: 500 kHz TA report > Hello Jay, > > congrats on the QSO with Finbar. > His QTH is almost perfect for 500kHz (close to the ocean, almost no obstacles) in contradiction to > my QTH (inland, lot's of trees). > But I am interested in a CW QSO with you, could you drop a message (to the reflector) when you are > QRV ? > I have rather limited time for the hobby, most evenings I cannot spend all time listening. > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > At 04:20 9/11/2009, you wrote: >>500 kHz TA enthusiasts >> >>Suprisingly good TA conditions of late. Had nice QSO (cw) with Finbar, EI0CF, last night and again >>tonight with good signals reports both directions. These QSOs are about a month earlier than those >>of the past two years. Not sure if it's conditions or that we just didn't attempt it early enough >>last year. >> >>Jack, VX9ZZZ in Nova Scotia has also been in QSO with Finbar and reports hearing other EU stations >>besides Finbar even well before his sunset. I've heard Jack calling CQ evenings starting around NS >>sunset on 504 kHz and he tunes the band looking for answers. >> >>Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 >>506.5 kHz > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md04.mx.aol.com (rly-md04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.142]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD101-8fd4afb4d9bf6; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:50:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD045-8fd4afb4d9bf6; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:49:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8Mvv-0004xV-F8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:49:03 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8Mvu-0004xK-UI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:49:02 +0000 Received: from smtp820.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.189.247]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8Mvs-0007ns-RA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:49:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 92962 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2009 23:48:55 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=HKKps7Vp7jsvIExacWg7zAKje6dqrxEGL8qbX+UeeWhSUNoinQEdxOH4DxxaG1UP/VxHKqSHXkyRXThFxd/4NzsN6goUFvRA/FQ8eTIY6MNiHMhROl4lwpErOEA46ZMf6v5sehe/H+W4QC88y/ZbdSgTXVmY6b6Bff2GW9jg2QI= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@213.122.31.87 with login) by smtp820.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Nov 2009 23:48:54 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: KHdpK2OswBBXlm4uxknbEiS4uYdJoGknHN90u4K8__lTafnafZg- X-YMail-OSG: iTStj6oVM1nq0SSJklDt2ZS9YXBhI6XWZ0JSgkPKsv_LV9mDboyv3Gm3U8Ne5IMaCQ9p5AgImn9TYZSTBvKvStE.ov36jIMlzywS4wLBYq875K.KZu5NGpZdIwOYVficIEm13J.3mURhBJfyq1b9ffLdt_KjUv02pRRbZZ4x8fUJI1mxZ4GJ6lmX2Ls3dda_wduczqriXrtij2F_KnYVlQWjiW5VdrRLru9l9JITVsVoNX.pWTaIplfS5CBTaP9UsAyb9AlvHr_wDc8TSEeuOHCM5u66TPNcmISa8r22mfFPpaUP4pOPxzBe24cJC3CFh6q5tPsnn0Rzy8uFXbz5ZdI2 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <00f301ca6329$8ba907c0$0900a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <4AFB477C.5090604@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <001501ca6326$ff28c710$0617aac0@jimdesk> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:48:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: RE: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Jim what kind of PC are you using. If a desktop are to sure it has the mains safety earth connected.....I have come across this problem before some 3 connecter IEC moulded leads with only two wires in them!! If a laptop then unless you use a radio earth that may all be floating. Sometimes it is necessary to use an tranformer on the audio leads to and from the PC to gain isolation from the hum and noise. I use old telephone hybrid transformers 600ohm to 600 ohm ferrite cored. Best Wishes Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Cowburn" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 11:30 PM Subject: LF: RE: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! > Hi John > > I'll have a look see. I've noticed on strong sigs from me (few and far > between!) I get multiple decodes +50 and -50. I'm not aware of any obvious > mains hum if I monitor my outgoing sigs and all leads are wound on ferrite > cores, but clearly something is amiss. > > I shall look into it and see what I can find > > Cheers for the heads up > > With best regards > > > Jim > > > Dr. James Cowburn > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John P-G > Sent: 11 November 2009 23:24 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! > > Jim. LF > > It looks like G7NKS has a 50/100Hz problem on the audio - both in TX and > RX directions - there are up to 3 decodes by Jim of a single station (eg > G3YXM), spaced by 50 & 100Hz and I see also that M0BMU is also reporting > multiple decodes of G7NKS with the same 50/100Hz spacing. > > Jim, have you some mains hum affecting the audio in/out of the PC? > > Cheers, > > John > GM4SLV > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD011-b9d4aed582778; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 04:43:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD097-b9d4aed582778; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 04:43:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N4Wx3-00038I-9t for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 09:42:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N4Wx2-000389-P8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 09:42:20 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N4WvH-0002qS-1T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 09:40:31 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so5284966bwz.4 for ; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 01:42:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mJ+BVCUDbRGO6vBZJqfQulP7Jir+haeuCuohk2snSW8=; b=jmT5W4QK0XpytshBXXJPaHQiDuTPjwtceEz4/UPwDdHoftY/T0Kb3dtL1z3XtotQ9j cEdySyE3K76KhpCimvzoKRgY1P7UTEyDbZf1S5DImdAN6TW45g4WoK22kYo1ayD78HSL 9JhxovKYpPzkthaRuINlWV1llxRum+zHWDrck= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=PDpXG+dC37JcteOltPCJppYMrS4qHbEEAeUrsFpVkVHU0jDtL0CuUWw05EhA9lYzNl vlMXtjua6ZOfIrvwCssH9Y7f+wk5FFnwhb2TCnZrUbp3Te4AufxSALB2xhzt5O8zQwNp UX67B+IDUmv4BuDN9ogKY94biIS5o52XJQH9I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.34.23 with SMTP id j23mr2785646bkd.31.1257068520202; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 01:42:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <9afca2640910291656s5d215e81j7cfbe8316501e7de@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 09:42:00 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911010142h7bcfe4d2t6dfdf1c29955892d@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Overnight session on 500kHz WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0003255565e69ae2e204774c1275 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d256.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0003255565e69ae2e204774c1275 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks for your reports Victor. This now brings me up to 22 different station reports, in 11 squares and 5 countries on 500kHz WSPR. Best DX remains 896kms. 73s Roger G3XBM 2009/11/1 > Hello Roger, > > 2 positive decodes in PA-land, > > 73 > Victor > PA3FNY > JO22NC > > > 0302 -29 1.4 0.503860 -1 G7NKS IO92 20 > 0306 -8 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 > 0310 -25 1.7 0.503860 -1 G7NKS IO92 20 > 0312 -10 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 > 0322 -19 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 > 0322 -24 1.4 0.503861 -1 G7NKS IO92 20 > 0326 -8 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 > 0326 -29 2.4 0.503925 0 G3XBM JO02 0 > 0330 -8 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 > 0336 -15 0.4 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 > 0342 -11 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 > 0442 -13 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 > 0446 -10 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 > 0452 -3 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 > 0500 -5 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 > 0506 -9 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 > 0506 -29 2.4 0.503924 0 G3XBM JO02 0 > 0508 -25 1.6 0.503861 -1 G7NKS IO92 20 > 0512 -7 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 > 0516 -22 1.2 0.503860 -1 G7NKS IO92 20 > 0522 -14 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 > 0526 -6 0.2 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > *Van:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto: > owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]*Namens *Roger Lapthorn > *Verzonden:* vrijdag 30 oktober 2009 0:57 > *Aan:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Onderwerp:* LF: Overnight session on 500kHz WSPR > > With eight unique stations copying me so far this evening I'm going to > leave the <1mW ERP 500kHz WSPR beaconing *running overnight* in the hope > that I can get a 20th station to copy me. > > I'd* love* to be received by Gus SM6BHZ in Sweden and this is <100kms > further than John GM4SLV in the Shetlands, so is not an impossibility on a > good night. > > We live on hope, optimism and good luck! > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --0003255565e69ae2e204774c1275 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for your reports Victor.

This now brings me up to 22 differ= ent station reports, in 11 squares and 5 countries on 500kHz WSPR. Best DX= remains 896kms.

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/11/1 <vic= tor13@online.nl>
Hello=20 Roger,
=A0
2=20 positive decodes in PA-land,
=A0
73
Victor=
PA3FNY=
JO22NC=
=A0
=A0
0302=20 -29=A0 1.4=A0=A0 0.503860 -1 G7NKS IO92 20
0306=A0 -8=A0=20 0.3=A0=A0 0.503850=A0 0 G4JNT IO90 23
0310 -25=A0 1.7=A0=A0=20 0.503860 -1 G7NKS IO92 20
0312 -10=A0 0.3=A0=A0 0.503850=A0 0=20 G4JNT IO90 23
0322 -19=A0 0.3=A0=A0 0.503850=A0 0 G4JNT IO90=20 23
0322 -24=A0 1.4=A0=A0 0.503861 -1 G7NKS IO92 20
0326=A0=20 -8=A0 0.3=A0=A0 0.503850=A0 0 G4JNT IO90 23
0326 -29=A0=20 2.4=A0=A0 0.503925=A0 0 G3XBM JO02 0
0330=A0 -8=A0=20 0.3=A0=A0 0.503850=A0 0 G4JNT IO90 23
0336 -15=A0 0.4=A0=A0=20 0.503850=A0 0 G4JNT IO90 23
0342 -11=A0 0.3=A0=A0 0.503850=A0=20 0 G4JNT IO90 23
0442=20 -13=A0 0.3=A0=A0 0.503850=A0 0 G4JNT IO90 23
0446 -10=A0=20 0.3=A0=A0 0.503850=A0 0 G4JNT IO90 23
0452=A0 -3=A0=20 0.3=A0=A0 0.503850=A0 0 G4JNT IO90 23
0500=A0 -5=A0=20 0.3=A0=A0 0.503850=A0 0 G4JNT IO90 23
0506=A0 -9=A0=20 0.3=A0=A0 0.503850=A0 0 G4JNT IO90 23
0506 -29=A0 2.4=A0=A0=20 0.503924=A0 0 G3XBM JO02 0
0508 -25=A0 1.6=A0=A0 0.503861 -1=20 G7NKS IO92 20
0512=A0 -7=A0 0.3=A0=A0 0.503850=A0 0 G4JNT IO90=20 23
0516 -22=A0 1.2=A0=A0 0.503860 -1 G7NKS IO92 20
0522 -14=A0=20 0.3=A0=A0 0.503850=A0 0 G4JNT IO90 23
0526=A0 -6=A0=20 0.2=A0=A0 0.503850=A0 0 G4JNT IO90 23
-----Oo= rspronkelijk bericht-----
Van:=20 = owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Roger=20 Lapthorn
Verzonden: vrijdag 30 oktober 2009 0:57
Aan:=20 rsgb_l= f_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: LF: Overnight session on= =20 500kHz WSPR

With eight unique stations copying me so= far=20 this evening I'm going to leave the <1mW ERP 500kHz WSPR beaconin= g=20 running overnight in the hope that I can get a 20th station to co= py me.=20

I'd love to be received by Gus SM6BHZ in Sweden and= this is=20 <100kms further than John GM4SLV in the Shetlands, so is not an=20 impossibility on a good night.

We live on hope, optimism and good= =20 luck!

73s
Roger=20 G3XBM
=A0
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http= ://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM =A0=20 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088



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F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD052-9014b0c5a5c2d6; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:13:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD051-9014b0c5a5c2d6; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:12:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ND3bx-0007qC-O2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:11:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ND3bx-0007q3-4i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:11:49 +0000 Received: from mout6.freenet.de ([195.4.92.96]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ND3bw-0004Oh-1Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:11:49 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.26] (helo=16.mx.freenet.de) by mout6.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.70 #1) id 1ND3bu-0003yW-Lk; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:11:46 +0100 Received: from w0a66.w.pppool.de ([89.58.10.102]:1531 helo=2a2d7ed321c6425) by 16.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.70 #1) id 1ND3bt-0004K2-3h; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:11:46 +0100 From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" To: Cc: "'Graham'" References: <774E21EDD9DB4D8292615A728F4050AF@AGB> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:11:48 +0100 Message-ID: <97EE052373644555BA2C6F114C693250@2a2d7ed321c6425> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <774E21EDD9DB4D8292615A728F4050AF@AGB> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcptT3EMby0TZnAfQV2RS1DJbvXFggAAsqVg X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: AW: STANAG .. What software is this showing ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0055_01CA6D5B.80863110" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0055_01CA6D5B.80863110 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Graham, Partly our good old PSK Sounder programm can decode STANAG messages (identifier.) For further steps there is only commercial software available as far as I know. http://www.klingenfuss.org/perseus.htm (for example -hi--) Vy 73 de Gerhard // DK6NI ==== _____ Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. November 2009 22:42 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: STANAG .. What software is this showing ?? STANAG .. What software is this showing ?? tnx - G .. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUeTE21RUMM ------=_NextPart_000_0055_01CA6D5B.80863110 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=_NextPart_000_0055_01CA6D5B.80863110-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA052-a7e4aff2adb11e; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:10:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA076-a7e4aff2adb11e; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:10:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9QoY-0001PC-HQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:09:50 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9QoY-0001P1-39 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:09:50 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9QoV-0006Ug-TO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:09:50 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so4664960bwz.4 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 14:09:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=cghHamplU89j+iqKXhFsgJsjbewbwS1FCcx4V8w8siY=; b=IdzOkvC0/CtmqM2tKUrTAZHA69BgXp7SFFPILAC0FF9mqOm+BVWH8P4wS62fqVD7Pd zbraaikuPHX/sj0QHTZoL3xNLta1Ac7vgQdSP4zMwHfgAOyizgW8SZqSXGLF0b80R7/j scFxkfqzIClxjcVuMzHqBINYK3zrOBTaRpx2c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=fpp+ZP9/PC0G+dFbv1pAlnvPqtJ+spZ0c+Ca4xRCfQcqc+qzt9TxV15WTgfFj3S7MY 4GxIlppZji3izdkEvenceCdrHnNT8CB4nCPJ9XLUS5BDynDLC0zF8YT9noFOzxjXLZzV YKrXpyJXGkeFaQNAsXKGgXGuzJHzhIy0yX0sk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.156.210 with SMTP id y18mr7316420bkw.80.1258236582201; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 14:09:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <02d101ca6568$7254e190$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <02d101ca6568$7254e190$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:09:42 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911141409p22092b1n36b6fbc84005a1ed@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: VX9mrc Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175ce22686891704785c0824 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m284.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0015175ce22686891704785c0824 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks Mel. Just heard VX9MRC - my first ever transatlantic reception on 500kHz. 73s Roger G3XBM (BTW, I hope you note I am not on WSPR at the moment Mel!!) 2009/11/14 mal hamilton > VX9MRC active since 1950 utc beacon on 507.5 CW > De g3kev > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --0015175ce22686891704785c0824 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Mel. Just heard VX9MRC - my first ever transatlantic reception on= 500kHz.

73s
Roger G3XBM (BTW, I hope you note I am not on WSPR= at the moment Mel!!)

2009/11/14 mal ham= ilton <g3kev= mal@talktalk.net>
VX9MRC active since 1950 utc beacon= on 507.5=20 CW
De g3kev
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--0015175ce22686891704785c0824-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG084-a024b03cc2883; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:28:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG034-a024b03cc2883; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:27:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAhkj-0001OO-IA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:27:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAhki-0001OC-RG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:27:08 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAhkh-0006cH-Ox for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:27:08 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB0651C002 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:26:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from PC_van_Rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-106.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.106]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11BAD31E702 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:26:56 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:26:57 +0100 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <477782.43526.qm@web28104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20091118085815.7282031E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <477782.43526.qm@web28104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091118102656.11BAD31E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_9656399==.ALT" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --=====================_9656399==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi all, the AM sidebands on my signal were in average 33dB down on the "real" signal, meaning that the sideband ERP was about 0.1mW. Having a look at the WSPRnet database showed sideband WSPR spots from GM4SLV: 1102km with 0.1mW ERP !!! 73, Rik ON7YD At 10:42 18/11/2009, you wrote: >Hi Rik and LF > >In Jim's case he has two sidebands indicative of AM modulation and >you are right they are about 30 odd dBs down on the carrier. Not too >bad suppression by 1950's standards.... hee hee. Where only one side >band is reported on the data base is probably becuase the reporting >station is having the (say) lower side band clipped by having a >slightly high dial frequency offset. > >I have some JPEG files for the test we did yesterday if you would >like to see them I will send off reflector. You may see something >that could help Jim solve this issue. > >73 petefmt > >--- On Wed, 18/11/09, Rik Strobbe wrote: > >From: Rik Strobbe >Subject: Re: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands >To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" >Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 8:58 > >Hello Jim, LF group, > >I have noticed "double receptions" of my WSPR signal from a number of >stations. When it occurred the ghost signal was always 100Hz higher >and was 33-36dB weaker. >As the frequency shift and signal strength difference was the same at >the different RX stations I conclude that the cause was with me. >I think that it is just some AM modulation in the PA caused by the >100Hz ripple of the PSU. > >73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > >At 02:13 18/11/2009, you wrote: > >Dear Jim LF Group, > > > >Looking at the sidebands on the G7NKS WSPR signals, mains hum or other noise > >by itself is not a sufficient explanation of what is seen. Simply adding > >50Hz, 150Hz, etc. noise into the PC audio channel, then feeding the result > >into an SSB TX would give unwanted CW at frequencies offset from the SSB > >carrier frequency by +/-50Hz, 150Hz and so on, i.e. with the carrier "dial > >frequency" at 502.4kHz, unmodulated carriers would appear at 502.45kHz, > >502.55kHz and so on, in addition to the WSPR signal at around 503.9kHz. > >However, these would probably largely be removed by the SSB filter in the > >rig. Instead, we see unwanted sidebands offset from the wanted WSPR signal > >frequency by +/- 50Hz, 150Hz, with identical modulation to the wanted > >signal. This requires some sort of non-linear process to cause the > >intermodulation between the presumed mains noise and the WSPR signal > >somewhere in the TX chain. > > > >One possibility is that intermodulation occurs in the PA. Jim's description > >suggests that he is persuading the HF PA in the IC735 to produce output at > >500k. At this frequency, the PA linearity may well be poor due to the > >impedance matching, coupling, decoupling and feedback components in the PA > >being wrong for the frequency, and high flux densities occuring in ferrite > >components due to the low operating frequency. But this wouldn't explain why > >Jim also gets multiple received signals from a strong station with a clean > >signal, which implies some identical noise source and distortion in the > >receive path. It would also mean the mains noise getting through the > >filtering in the rig somehow. > > > >A possibility that would explain the unwanted sidebands appearing on both TX > >and RX signals is if one of the oscillators in the system has mains noise > >sidebands. The sound card clock seems unlikely, since this is just a simple > >crystal oscillator. I see the IC735 has some sort of multi-loop PLL > >synthesiser, which would certainly be prone to this type of spurious signal, > >since any kind of mains noise getting in would modulate the VCO frequencies, > >and would probably be the same on transmit and receive. This could be > >checked by receiving a clean carrier somewhere around 500kHz, and examining > >the audio output using Spec Lab or Argo or similar to see if 50Hz and 150Hz > >sidebands are present on the received audio tone. > > > >Cheers, Jim Moritz > >73 de M0BMU > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "James Cowburn" > <james.cowburn@virgin.net> > >To: > <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> > >Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:26 PM > >Subject: LF: rule #2 - assumption is the brother of all foul ups > > > > > > > LF > > > > > > > > > > > > Sidebands are back! I think its caused by my TX getting hot and bothered > > > by > > > struggling at 500. From cold it txs 50 watts but this soon drops back to > > > around 35, and the sidebands appear. My sigs are better so having the > > > txfr > > > outside the shack and at the antenna is a vast improvement, but > I now need > > > to work on the cooling. > > --=====================_9656399==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Hi all,

the AM sidebands on my signal were in average 33dB down on the "real" signal, meaning that the sideband ERP was about 0.1mW.
Having a look at the WSPRnet database showed sideband WSPR spots from GM4SLV: 1102km with 0.1mW ERP !!!

73, Rik  ON7YD

At 10:42 18/11/2009, you wrote:
Hi Rik and LF
 
In Jim's case he has two sidebands indicative of AM modulation and you are right they are about 30 odd dBs down on the carrier. Not too bad suppression by 1950's standards.... hee hee. Where only one side band is reported on the data base is probably becuase the reporting station is having the  (say) lower side band clipped by having a slightly high dial frequency offset.
 
I have some JPEG files for the test we did yesterday if you would like to see them I will send off reflector. You may see something that could help Jim solve this issue.
 
73 petefmt

--- On Wed, 18/11/09, Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote:

From: Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
Subject: Re: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands
To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 8:58

Hello Jim, LF group,

I have noticed "double receptions" of my WSPR signal from a number of
stations. When it occurred the ghost signal was always 100Hz higher
and was 33-36dB weaker.
As the frequency shift and signal strength difference was the same at
the different RX stations I conclude that the cause was with me.
I think that it is just some AM modulation in the PA caused by the
100Hz ripple of the PSU.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


At 02:13 18/11/2009, you wrote:
>Dear Jim LF Group,
>
>Looking at the sidebands on the G7NKS WSPR signals, mains hum or other noise
>by itself is not a sufficient explanation of what is seen. Simply adding
>50Hz, 150Hz, etc. noise into the PC audio channel, then feeding the result
>into an SSB TX would give unwanted CW at frequencies offset from the SSB
>carrier frequency by +/-50Hz, 150Hz and so on, i.e. with the carrier "dial
>frequency" at 502.4kHz, unmodulated carriers would appear at 502.45kHz,
>502.55kHz and so on, in addition to the WSPR signal at around 503.9kHz.
>However, these would probably largely be removed by the SSB filter in the
>rig. Instead, we see unwanted sidebands offset from the wanted WSPR signal
>frequency by +/- 50Hz, 150Hz, with identical modulation to the wanted
>signal. This requires some sort of non-linear process to cause the
>intermodulation between the presumed mains noise and the WSPR signal
>somewhere in the TX chain.
>
>One possibility is that intermodulation occurs in the PA. Jim's description
>suggests that he is persuading the HF PA in the IC735 to produce output at
>500k. At this frequency, the PA linearity may well be poor due to the
>impedance matching, coupling, decoupling and feedback components in the PA
>being wrong for the frequency, and high flux densities occuring in ferrite
>components due to the low operating frequency. But this wouldn't explain why
>Jim also gets multiple received signals from a strong station with a clean
>signal, which implies some identical noise source and distortion in the
>receive path. It would also mean the mains noise getting through the
>filtering in the rig somehow.
>
>A possibility that would explain the unwanted sidebands appearing on both TX
>and RX signals is if one of the oscillators in the system has mains noise
>sidebands. The sound card clock seems unlikely, since this is just a simple
>crystal oscillator. I see the IC735 has some sort of multi-loop PLL
>synthesiser, which would certainly be prone to this type of spurious signal,
>since any kind of mains noise getting in would modulate the VCO frequencies,
>and would probably be the same on transmit and receive. This could be
>checked by receiving a clean carrier somewhere around 500kHz, and examining
>the audio output using Spec Lab or Argo or similar to see if 50Hz and 150Hz
>sidebands are present on the received audio tone.
>
>Cheers, Jim Moritz
>73 de M0BMU
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "James Cowburn" < james.cowburn@virgin.net>
>To: < rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:26 PM
>Subject: LF: rule #2 - assumption is the brother of all foul ups
>
>
> > LF
> >
> >
> >
> > Sidebands are back!  I think its caused by my TX getting hot and bothered
> > by
> > struggling at 500.  From cold it txs 50 watts but this soon drops back to
> > around 35, and the sidebands appear.  My sigs are better so having the
> > txfr
> > outside the shack and at the antenna is a vast improvement, but I now need
> > to work on the cooling.


--=====================_9656399==.ALT-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com (rly-md01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.139]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD032-8e64afcce9cc5; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:12:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD016-8e64afcce9cc5; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:12:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8mZ5-0000gY-4p for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:11:11 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8mZ4-0000gP-56 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:11:10 +0000 Received: from outbound03.telus.net ([199.185.220.222]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8mZ1-00017M-8D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:11:10 +0000 Received: from edtnaa01.telusplanet.net ([75.157.140.241]) by priv-edtnes29.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091113030604.WXCM20472.priv-edtnes29.telusplanet.net@edtnaa01.telusplanet.net> for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:06:04 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.67] (d75-157-140-241.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.140.241]) by edtnaa01.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 7EAFA1F0678B223F for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:06:03 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4AFCCD1B.5010907@telus.net> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:06:03 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: [Fwd: Experimental Developmental Licenses for 600-meters] CANADA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) FYI I have removed personal email addresses and telephones #s of all=20 involved otherwise this is the full text of RAC's dictate about how=20 Canadian amateurs are required to be considered for authorization on 600m. 73 Scott VE7TIL -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Experimental Developmental Licenses for 600-meters Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 12:19:42 -0500 From: Bryan VE3QN =20 =20 Gentlemen, =20 It has been some time since the last time we communicated on the subject= =20 of the 500 kHz Development Licenses. This is an attempt to make up for=20 that and to give you some idea of where things stand. =20 The issue has been how to stream proposals, such as those some of you=20 have submitted, through RAC and into IC in a form which IC can=20 expediently process into the Developmental Licenses IC have indicated=20 they are prepared to issue for experimental operation by radio amateurs=20 on 600 meters. =20 The work on this issue is being generously worked through by Jim Dean,=20 VE3IQ, and Richard Ferch, VE3KI, working with Ren=E9 Guerette and Gary=20 Steckly of Industry Canada. =20 At this point in time it seems likely that Industry Canada will accept=20 that the applications be forwarded to them using IC Form 2365 a copy of=20 which is attached for your information only. What is still being worked=20 on is how some of the requirements of the form might be modified or even= =20 waived for the particular circumstances of these Developmental Licenses=20 and radio amateurs as applicants. It is important in crafting this that=20 the process as modified be agreeable to the regional Industry Canada=20 offices through which these applications will flow and not simply to the= =20 IC officials with whom Jim and Rich are working here in Ottawa. This is=20 going to take a little more time to work through but we think we are close= . =20 It's important to realize that, reflecting the Government's redoubled=20 concern with transparency, this process will - unlike the earlier 135=20 kHz authorizations - more closely follow IC's rulebook. In this regard,=20 I'm taking the liberty of excerpting the following from a recent letter=20 from Ren=E9 Guerette, Director of IC's Amateur Radio Service Centre....=20 =20 The developmental licence applicants must adhere to the rules applicable= =20 to commercial radio stations. Their amateur certification should serve=20 them well as operators but does not infer any other privileges.=20 Applicants are bound by the CPC 2-0-03 on tower consultation. If they=20 exceed the exemption limit in tower height of 15 meters or create other=20 non excluded situations, it will be at their own perils. The LUA may=20 wish to allow construction/erection without consultation if approached=20 but since the duration of these trials is over 2 years, temporary may=20 not be so temporary. This provision in the CPC is meant for temporary=20 emergency situations. Antennae patterns and ERP calculations as per predictions seem quite=20 reasonable to me as antenna propagation characteristics at these=20 frequencies are difficult to assess. As you indicate, the efficiencies=20 of such antennae are more likely to be less than the model. Licences must be renewed yearly. Rationale for renewal is required. This= =20 too is assessed at the district level. However, I suggest that licensees= =20 should forward their rationale with covering letter to the ARSC for=20 vetting and distribution to appropriate licensing office for renewal.=20 Since all members are participating in the same trial, I suspect the=20 rationale will be similar for most if the project is ongoing. A letter=20 from RAC might do the trick. =20 End of Excerpt. =20 As you can see, it's much easier to be a radio amateur. We do think,=20 however, we are close to the finish line and it is our objective to have= =20 this process as straightforward as the circumstances permit when we are=20 ready to go. =20 One area where those of you who have submitted proposals can help is in=20 connection with the requirements for antenna pattern and gain data. It=20 seems likely that IC will accept data which RAC will supply based on=20 antenna modeling which we are hoping to do here. Those of you who have=20 submitted proposals could help now by submitting data, e.g.,could be as=20 simple as a description or a diagram, on the antennae you anticipate=20 using in your proposed 500 kHz operation.=20 =20 Thank you again for your willingness to participate in this and for your= =20 patience. 73, =20 Best Regards, =20 Bryan =20 -------------------------------------------------------- =20 Bryan Rawlings VE3QN / VE2QNN Radio Amateurs of/du Canada, Inc. Web: www.rac.ca From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df08.mx.aol.com (rly-df08.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.21]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF031-56b4af1ba591dd; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:31:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF082-56b4af1ba591dd; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:31:07 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N5jgF-0006qp-9a for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:29:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N5jgE-0006qg-JG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:29:58 +0000 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net ([165.212.64.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N5jev-0003kT-TO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:28:38 +0000 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net (co02-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout02.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15AD313453C for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:29:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps04.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.133] by cmsout02.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.58V) with ESMTP id XID876NkDRdz0709X02; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:29:50 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.133 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps04.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID876NkDRdz0709X02 Received: from [192.168.1.4] [151.47.209.91] by cmsapps04.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.53P) with ESMTPA id 951NkDRdx5872M40; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:29:49 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.209.91 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.1.4] Message-ID: <4AF1BA0A.8020207@usa.net> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:29:46 +0100 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <57a24ca70911040825i8280573r7c52559a04b70d6c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <57a24ca70911040825i8280573r7c52559a04b70d6c@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Z-USANET-MsgId: XID951NkDRdY5872X40 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: "Poisson, Shannon, and the Radio Amateur" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Warren Ziegler wrote: > Andy, > I can get a copy from the M.I.T. library but it may be a few days > before I get over there... > Would it be asking too much for a publicly downloadable copy ? TNX. 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (rly-mg04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.110]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG092-a084b0194ff1c6; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:08:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG042-a084b0194ff1c6; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:08:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA5y6-0007Al-Er for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:06:26 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA5y3-0007AI-RS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:06:24 +0000 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA5xw-00017l-SQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:06:18 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.4]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091116180606.THCS17277.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:06:06 +0000 Received: from [81.109.247.175] (helo=jimdesk) by know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA5xl-0006XO-Nm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:06:06 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: "'James Cowburn'" , References: Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:06:02 -0000 Message-ID: <014601ca66e7$76a9f9d0$0517aac0@jimdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Acpm5m3SHzpox8kKQe2PU52HmguBJQAAPlwg X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=qq8CF84x6uRvSzY4yGcA:9 a=OkM6unOexygCOFU_KpfVbpKIt9QA:4 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=pvu12Wc33GzLKAv88dYA:9 a=9230KV-9BE6vDUauFQoA:7 a=bRYykBJtFJ7atHcFV3MdV9GzK2YA:4 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: thats the way to do it! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0147_01CA66E7.76A9F9D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_FONT_BIG, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0147_01CA66E7.76A9F9D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear LF At a stroke, side bands gone, 25watts found, sigs increased! I'd like to say I planned it that way but sister Serendipity was on my side! I just moved the impedance matching transformer from in the shack to the base of the coil and re-adjusted the taps on both. IC735 now happily firing 50watts out as opposed to 25 watts and it seems that the dreaded side bands are gone. Let's see if it stays that way. With best regards Jim G7NKS Dr. James Cowburn ------=_NextPart_000_0147_01CA66E7.76A9F9D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

Dear LF

 

At a stroke, side bands gone, 25watts= found, sigs increased!  I’d like to say I planned it that way but sister Serendipi= ty was on my side!

 

I just moved the impedance matching tra= nsformer from in the shack to the base of the coil and re-adjusted the taps on both.   IC735 now happily firing 50watts out as opposed to 25 watt= s and it seems that the dreaded side bands are gone.  Let’s see if= it stays that way.

 

 

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim= G7NKS

 

 

Dr. James Cowburn

 

------=_NextPart_000_0147_01CA66E7.76A9F9D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (rly-mf01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.171]) by air-mf02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF021-9404b01b5153da; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:25:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF016-9404b01b5153da; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:24:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA87E-0008Gl-IG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:24:00 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA87E-0008Gc-4b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:24:00 +0000 Received: from mx1.wp.pl ([212.77.101.5]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA87C-00021Q-AS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:24:00 +0000 Received: (wp-smtpd smtp.wp.pl 25918 invoked from network); 16 Nov 2009 21:23:55 +0100 Received: from ip23.15mes0-1.cityconnect.schedom-europe.net (HELO [192.168.0.102]) (sq5bpm@[83.101.67.23]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp.wp.pl (WP-SMTPD) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 16 Nov 2009 21:23:55 +0100 Message-ID: <4B01B4C1.1080505@wp.pl> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:23:29 +0100 From: Marek SQ5BPM User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-WP-AV: skaner antywirusowy poczty Wirtualnej Polski S. A. X-WP-SPAM: NO 0000000 [sfO0] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Sad news from SP5ZCC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear all, Sad news from SP5ZCC: the station and antennas are being dismantled and the club room emptied. This is direct result of a recent change of the secondary school director, where the club has been located for the last 29 years, with peak activities around 1998-2005. The new director probably has other priorities for the club room rather than keeping a strange hobby club there. On the other hand, all the most active club members (me included) are around their 30s, so it's time for family, children, qrl and related stuff. There was nobody to keep the club running, young people from the secondary school didn't get interested... So, maybe, indeed a secondary school is not a place for the radio club anymore. So, no LF from there in the nearest future... I feel sad, as I spent many hours at the shack there... Marek SQ5BPM (ON4BPM) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (rly-mf03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.173]) by air-mf03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF034-94e4b04c263395; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:58:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF034-94e4b04c263395; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:58:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAy8x-0006Q5-Vh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:57:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAy8x-0006Pw-3b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:57:15 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.55]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAy8v-00072V-0n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:57:15 +0000 Received: from edmwaa01.telusplanet.net ([75.157.140.241]) by priv-edmwes51.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091119035204.FOBL20907.priv-edmwes51.telusplanet.net@edmwaa01.telusplanet.net> for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:52:04 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.67] (d75-157-140-241.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.140.241]) by edmwaa01.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 564813642798EA40 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:51:37 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4B04C0C6.5010007@telus.net> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:51:34 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4B0472EC.9020806@online.fr> <57a24ca70911181803hf36c50eo18b2337c5e7fb45b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <57a24ca70911181803hf36c50eo18b2337c5e7fb45b@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: LF T/A [137kHz] WD2XGJ last night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Warren I was trying to relax last night and was constantly bothered by the hot pixels on the monitor of XDJ burning them out. Nice signal for most of your run. Seeing you already tonight. 73 Scott Warren Ziegler wrote: > Hi Jean-Pierre, > > Thank you for the report and the '"grabber" ! > I have been taking advantage of the good conditions to do some listening! > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db05.mx.aol.com (rly-db05.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.80]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDB061-aca4b0c5383ca; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:43:50 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB058-aca4b0c5383ca; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:43:33 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ND39N-0007Zb-Py for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:42:17 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ND39N-0007ZS-4i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:42:17 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.152]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ND39K-0005aL-Pr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:42:17 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3422.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 788C31C0008A for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:42:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3422.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6BDB71C00088 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:42:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.43.164]) by mwinf3422.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id D9B6F1C0008A for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:42:06 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091124214206891.D9B6F1C0008A@mwinf3422.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <774E21EDD9DB4D8292615A728F4050AF@AGB> From: "Graham" To: Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:42:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: STANAG .. What software is this showing ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A1_01CA6D4E.F72D2C90" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00A1_01CA6D4E.F72D2C90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable STANAG .. What software is this showing ?? tnx - G ..=20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DxUeTE21RUMM ------=_NextPart_000_00A1_01CA6D4E.F72D2C90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
STANAG .. What software is this = showing=20 ??
 
tnx - G ..
 
 


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anyone's about, I am trying to use a new fangled digital mode (it's >> called CW) on 500kHz. Calling CQ around 501.7 and looking for any calls. >> >> Have heard M0JXM calling CQ but he did not hear me. >> >> 73s >> Roger G3XBM >> >> -- >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ >> http://www.g3xbm.co.uk >> G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 >> > > --001485f724b671b3c20478674c6b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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If anyone's about, I am tr= ying to use a new fangled digital mode (it's called CW) on 500kHz. Cal= ling CQ around 501.7 and looking for any calls.

Have heard M0JXM calling CQ but he did not hear me.

73s
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--001485f724b671b3c20478674c6b-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (rly-dd08.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.155]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD084-b8f4af6fde339c; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:20:47 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD081-b8f4af6fde339c; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:20:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7BQK-0007Wv-MZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:19:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7BQK-0007Wm-8K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:19:32 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7BPM-0001T7-S1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:18:33 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.6] (opc1.twatt.home [192.168.1.6]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C8113B535 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:19:29 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4AF6FDA1.1070404@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:19:29 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <019f01ca6061$34a80040$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20091108120711.z1zbaakm0cw0cocg@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <01cd01ca6068$54f09a40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20091108141505.zsudabk1wg80k848@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <4AF6CA9E.70403@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <20091108151952.3tkxrc9ggk8s84o8@webmail6.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20091108151952.3tkxrc9ggk8s84o8@webmail6.kuleuven.be> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: daytime WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Rik, LF Yes - I was pleased at the results too! I note that now, in darkness, that my active loop is giving much the same s/n results to the vertical/tuned pre-amp, whereas in daytime the vertical/pre-amp was far better. I've seen this before, the active loop's own internal noise limits its useable sensitivity in the day, when extra gain on a passive antenna brings increased sensitivity. At night the external noise dominates in both setups, and the results become very similar. I'm running both in parallel at the moment - spots from GM4SLV are the vertical/preamp/IC718 and from CLOUSTA are from the ALA1530S+ loop/IC-R75. Cheers, John Rik Strobbe wrote: > John, > > amazing. > -16dB with 200mW ERP would mean that only 10mW ERP would be needed to > get a marginal copy. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md08.mx.aol.com (rly-md08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.146]) by air-md04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD043-91a4b098c20fe; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:08:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD082-91a4b098c20fe; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:08:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCHmM-0004xT-F6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:07:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCHmL-0004xK-Jf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:07:21 +0000 Received: from web28516.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([87.248.110.195]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCHmL-0005XZ-Fu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:07:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 52388 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Nov 2009 19:07:15 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1258916835; bh=uSVzEZcLd5gtJc65qRH+guTwz5VIu0C1//Q6szBtuu0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BqqDIaSCHtrNLE37f9M88X1eQaBFCm8QVQsORxNt0TLBx/nbGpRvhfKhSnJHCGeS54qKMaB4tboN1MPKY3X/M+q/jaJDd0gg4j1uc9Vg1eNuYT+GB5aaDT3zuc8V5OMVLhLu8y2ek19mlqCoKVjdP+cP53mxz8P1jgcAfLtVaVA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qKQro5SNzFUGllO6Qxr5fjjCpeL4AI2oqQV3urEfRuMkzb/yijiauKnAQzok8wdvdnbtL8S9forXplOHj+fC2nhCuuvKcTW2J2VhjlVS0fKMymIeUhYXUSmTNauMkP/HUxv5DRfiJUpy1/haF0MTz70FqoXlvqbeZC2s7ZCdtsc=; Message-ID: <827245.52377.qm@web28516.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: uDqcOXQVM1l91sE9czKtoAkomBFWdASct2BtPGXAziodY9iVl00CHDlk_Mlk7bz5751WHpuQ.RUoBS8UX0WS_MR_LYT5I9GFsk9JZJ2l1Td7iRLV_ZuOP7lW.qfOBAd3sZH32ZPj2S98MMhll8tQ3gucE2NEIUGvEGhB5nOZSCuS11Y_vvBKnfukulc3oyJCVAImNJDUslzEXtePnXEftDzRT.xVpMTUTMSZTPnDgZNkbo9SFZaAdb_iF9SOrrKk9RrUt2Cm6gY1RUyRR_bv0qyMcKg_vqsV6YpeoOIQXKsT Received: from [80.6.43.68] by web28516.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:07:15 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/211.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:07:15 +0000 (GMT) From: Chris Osborn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: [500 khz] M0JXM & G3XIZ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-930089136-1258916835=:52377" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m280.2 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-930089136-1258916835=:52377 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for those very interesting measurements Dave. I was running 50 watts of RF to a 40m inverted 'L' at 10m. I've measure my field strength as being 640 mW ERP . .=20 Hopefully these parameters all tie up . .=20 if not then it's back to the drawing board. 73 Chris G3XIZ IO92UB ________________________________ From: Dave G3WCB To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Sun, 22 November, 2009 12:10:45 Subject: LF: [500 khz] M0JXM & G3XIZ =20 Hi,=20 Dennis and Chris. =20 I=20 checked your relative signal strengths during your QSO on 500 kHz this mor= ning,=20 using the Wandel & Golterman SPM-30. M0JXM was averaging -74 dBm, and G3XI= Z=20 was averaging -62 dBm, i.e. 12 dB stronger. If you know how much RF power= you=20 were each using, you can deduce your relative antenna=20 efficiencies. =20 Hope=20 this is useful. =20 73,=20 Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- >From: > owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dave=20 > G3WCB >Sent: 21 November 2009 11:38 >To: > rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >Subject: LF: [500 khz]=20 > M0JXM... > > >Hi,=20 > Dennis. >=20 >Your=20 > signals are RST 579 here this morning. I can also hear G3DXZ at 349/QSB= , but=20 > he's sending too fast for reliable copy at this end.=20 >=20 > My antenna is a 20m long=20 > double wire "tee" at 5m, and the RX is a W&G SPM-30 with a tuned J310= =20 > pre-amp. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, s.e.=20 > England >-----Original Message----- >>From: >> owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 >> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of DENNIS=20 >> EASTERLING >>Sent: 18 November 2009 17:16 >>To: >> rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>Subject: LF: Lost=20 >> QSO >> >> >>Hello Mal >>=20 >>Sorry if I left you in the lurch 16.5=20 >> today, after giving you a report 599 something happened and a single= =20 >> frequency signal came up on top of you and slowly drifted down=20 >> frequency, perhaps someone tuning? >>=20 >>Better luck next time. >>=20 >>73 Dennis=20 >>M0JXM =20 --0-930089136-1258916835=:52377 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
--0-930089136-1258916835=:52377-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me10.mx.aol.com (rly-me10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.44]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME053-9dd4af71e2e310; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:38:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME101-9dd4af71e2e310; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:38:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7DZr-000065-4x for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:37:31 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7DZq-00005w-LJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:37:30 +0000 Received: from smtp826.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.13.123]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7DZn-0006EE-Te for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:37:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 55208 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2009 19:26:28 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=oCl9g6eipxJkbRKS+HfeMZGson6pJInCeXcwOm5BWeGf09U+my7899Faii99CZ5mZfGDdmcuo1PJ7iMLikTu8Dq4Zt0RauqgiaKEeykAIU4jBYSCOUsi8Iw1sVMAoy3U457ZWHaDR3lhyzGJ4Hlrrnbwt71r2+PHZx8oBVCQ/Sk= ; Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.177.107.201 with login) by smtp826.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 2009 19:26:27 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: qKIhhNCswBB2TTHr2BORWcGGR2mpopxhCcunGIxpCKQYiG07Q7UOhNo- X-YMail-OSG: rZ04MA8VM1lJQiQb0daNR5jQEch8ebnYnN5TgoiHBPe7tilBVTvEh0Zy_iUmLoUsFEJYFnGRJ5Nq_ynD9zRFLyQ.sGmW.n74EMErNDo4vPNaT7wzo1Y8lrzLH3R2WwWrBoZT46g9IuY9AcGaf1loZCnouYFkTrU2eNVUbBaKNSJy7ifc_QDtV_GN44QRjbEr1.qZ2riIObWNIK9dYcO3nn9S0B4oKEzSW9Io0EKR55.Vc8uFKNnfejSUJwu8v8NxMUw53Pq4YsAkDig5VEcC1BO2XBVOnkFt8sSrZF7eZRpbIfAebx5hseaR08.k8eoRP4ENSP1c X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "James Moritz" To: References: <027601ca60a2$841cd150$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <027601ca60a2$841cd150$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:26:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Mal, LF Group, ----- Original Message ----- From: "mal hamilton" >WSPR reports amongst stns indicate reception reports usually minus dB. Most >of these stations are usually PLUS dB >with me or very close to that >figure. >So what does that prove. It proves the SNR is higher at the output of your receiver than it is at whatever other stations you are talking about >I would say it depends on the RX antenna and not necessarily propagation. So how then does the signal reach the RX antenna? Radio wave propagation has always to be involved somewhere! >A large antenna yields better results than a small loop or active whip. Not if the small loop or whip are designed to achieve adequate SNR at the frequency of interest. >When I switch from my 1/4 wave inv L for 500 khz to a smaller 40 m >resonated loop for 500 the signals then do go >down to a minus db figure. >So what is all this all ABOUT ? It is probably about the different directional patterns of the vertical and loop antennas, resulting in different signal and noise levels at the receiver, and therefore different values of SNR. Or maybe your loop just doesn't work very well. >There is also the TX pwr to consider. Two transmitters from the same >location one using QRO and the other QRP will be >received at different >levels at a specified RX location. There is a lot of misrepresentation and >misleading information by >WSPR operator This applies also to CW or any other type of signal. It is a bit rich for someone so shy of giving figures for his TX power to suggest others are being misleading... >A trace of the signal is visible long before a decode takes place, >therefore why not use QRS in the first place. Because a trace of signal is just that; a decoded WSPR signal contains station ID, location, and power information, making it much more useful, without the operator actually having to watch a computer screen 24 hours a day. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (rly-ma05.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.49]) by air-ma03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA033-8ab4af5205c67; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 02:23:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA055-8ab4af5205c67; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 02:23:10 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6fcN-0008FB-BU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:21:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6fcM-0008F2-OY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:21:50 +0000 Received: from mailout10.t-online.de ([194.25.134.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6fbH-0003BP-Ll for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:20:44 +0000 Received: from fwd01.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.t-online.de with smtp id 1N6fcI-0007b1-01; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 08:21:46 +0100 Received: from df2py (G54dsYZLrhBpo9DBGl9ryzQUKxe9DQ5YSbizIlUs1twMwhcB2m4ZgLS7lTzhJwgQUt@[80.187.101.41]) by fwd01.t-online.de with esmtp id 1N6fcC-09FKyG0; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 08:21:40 +0100 From: "Wolf Ostwald" To: Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 08:23:19 +0100 Message-ID: <1686106A1FF945FDB9AC52BD1ECAFB77@df2py> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: Acpfey4KRSt181+VQluxV6JB528vew== X-ID: G54dsYZLrhBpo9DBGl9ryzQUKxe9DQ5YSbizIlUs1twMwhcB2m4ZgLS7lTzhJwgQUt X-TOI-MSGID: 679c9eac-2999-41b3-a098-75c69f89c56e X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Stainless steel versus copper Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002C_01CA5F83.90F21860" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01CA5F83.90F21860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi ! Is there any experience around about using stainless steel wires for toploads or feeders versus copper ? As to my knowledge there is a certain amount of rf current penetrating into the conductor at 137/500 kHz. Losses are expected to be high in lesser conductive materials at those frequencies. Any ideas about the order of magnitude in current fed antennas ? 73 de wolf df2py / di2bj ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01CA5F83.90F21860 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi !

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As to my knowledge there= is a certain amount of rf current penetrating into the conductor at 137/500 kHz. Losses are expe= cted to be high in lesser conductive materials at those frequencies. Any ideas= about the order of magnitude in current fed antennas ?

73 de wolf  df2py /= di2bj

------=_NextPart_000_002C_01CA5F83.90F21860-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA061-a6c4b07b6eb54; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:46:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA054-a6c4b07b6eb54; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:46:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBmX6-0003RZ-Pq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:45:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBmX6-0003RQ-CJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:45:32 +0000 Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBmX5-0006Nm-Pf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:45:32 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-3.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.3]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091121094526.BLWJ27507.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-3.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:45:26 +0000 Received: from [81.109.247.175] (helo=desktop) by know-smtpout-3.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBmWz-00081F-R0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:45:25 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: References: <017801ca66fb$0bf91c60$0517aac0@jimdesk> <20091118085815.7282031E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <02ac01ca6832$39e82890$0517aac0@jimdesk> <515CB1E53A2D4E02BBAB7B9E5E9CC0E8@JimPC> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:45:22 -0000 Message-ID: <001401ca6a8f$585937b0$0517aac0@desktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcpqNK5iu85z+vlNQKuBVwyxssNaHwAWf94g X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=wV9FcBFsAAAA:8 a=MDZQaXdsAAAA:8 a=yWXxG-5GONjUNCOzNHIA:9 a=8bOrpGOD2SoceM5kEtxiYrKqPEAA:4 a=KGHlO6L4b5AA:10 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=nhn505YfawQA:10 a=BYrvWSzc1cdK_V3L:21 a=wYf6je9EGSK5_HTc:21 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Andy I suspect its my drifty IC735! Poor old girl! With best regards Jim -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot Sent: 20 November 2009 22:55 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands Not sure if it is significant, or just tuning, but the log of G7NKS reports of me are about 40 - 50Hz low in frequency, and varying by a few Hz from hit-to-hit over the last few hours. Andy www.g4jnt.com This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health and safety police 2009/11/19 James Moritz : > Dear Jim, LF Group, > > FYI - Here is a spectrogram of G7NKS in WSPR recorded this evening, showing > the sidebands at +/-50Hz and +/-150Hz - I couldn't see any other spectral > components. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg03.mx.aol.com (rly-dg03.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.87]) by air-dg05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG051-5b34b01188b1f4; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 04:17:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG034-5b34b01188b1f4; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 04:17:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9xc2-0004Ea-3O for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:11:06 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9xc0-0004ER-U1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:11:05 +0000 Received: from mcgi65.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.199]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9xbx-00051s-Sa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:11:03 +0000 Received: from mcgi65.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi65.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40CB35CF1 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:10:56 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [91.77.88.87] by mcgi65.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:10:56 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:10:56 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <1043378010.1258326083.160784844.95853@mcgi39.rambler.ru> <57a24ca70911151614q7185951ud60c7e913ad36978@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: <763106576.1258362656.45967800.29836@mcgi65.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Who is it? 507.300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Warren! TNX for info! I tried to copy a trace up to mode-30, but nothing into my location. Will be trying to do agn! Do know what is his real freq? * Warren Ziegler [Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:14:28 -0500]: > Roman, > > That is Bob WE2XGR/6 (W2ZM) running 200W ERP frrom Rochester,NY > > > On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Roman RW3ADB wrote: > > > > Hi LF! > > What is a signal we can see around 507.300 kHz onto G4WGT grabber now? > > Who is it? > > Too many times I can see a CW-like trace on that freq every night. > > Between 507.3 and 507.4 are visible now. > > > > -- > > Roman RW3ADB. > > > > > -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMA054-8d14b12db58fd; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:36:50 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA103-8d14b12db58fd; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:36:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEqUZ-0003jv-Lo for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:35:35 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEqUY-0003jm-Mb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:35:34 +0000 Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEqUW-0005B0-Su for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:35:34 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-2.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.2]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091129203527.EILZ27507.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-2.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:35:27 +0000 Received: from [81.109.251.184] (helo=desktop) by know-smtpout-2.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEqUQ-0002LH-NV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:35:27 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:35:21 -0000 Message-ID: <013901ca7133$79a90030$0317aac0@desktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcpxM3hz7WoXSc9cQuuERTJuGG9Hcw== X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=W3tOLUehizD4qj6VhtReFuw5MKb8d+XqjIxlDsIazEA= c=1 sm=0 a=FBKOAGTJxRccOY8N5BEA:9 a=kfsuqkjfPXEmLpduRH35cZ3vs5cA:4 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=_vsG-Dl7aLqU7uoZim0A:9 a=zUYm_3TpdAP_p2wUvfwA:7 a=5MPm6skMczokM2jle1fnM-URw60A:4 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: G7NKS now QRT Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_013A_01CA7133.79A90030" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_013A_01CA7133.79A90030 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit RTTY test beacon now QRT. 73s Jim G7NKS ------=_NextPart_000_013A_01CA7133.79A90030 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

RTTY test beacon now QRT.&= nbsp;

 

73s

 

Jim G7NKS

------=_NextPart_000_013A_01CA7133.79A90030-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD082-b6e4b0b012bae; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:40:10 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD038-b6e4b0b012bae; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:39:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCgcc-0002Vt-Lh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:38:58 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCgcc-0002Vk-43 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:38:58 +0000 Received: from mailt.toya.net.pl ([217.113.224.9] ident=postfix) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCgca-0005Wv-EY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:38:58 +0000 Received: from mail.toya.net.pl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.toya.net.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D0692000006D for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:38:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.103] (unknown [10.11.152.246]) (Authenticated sender: unimlyn) by mail.toya.net.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8ACAB20000044 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:38:55 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B0B00EE.9050407@toya.net.pl> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:38:54 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Piotr_M=B3ynarski?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4B09D502.8030200@toya.net.pl>,<006101ca6bd9$9ab3cb70$0900a8c0@lark> <7C21B1DD169746B0967307E2AB9E7FDD@JimPC> In-Reply-To: <7C21B1DD169746B0967307E2AB9E7FDD@JimPC> X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: N-turn TX Loop Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) James Moritz wrote: > Dear Piotr, LF Group, > > Considering only the conductor losses for the moment, in principle > increasing the number of turns of the loop by a factor N increases the > radiation resistance by approximately N^2, while the loss resistance > of the conductors increases by approximately N times, giving an > improvement in efficiency of a factor N. However, if you instead > connected the same N turns in parallel, you would have a single-turn > loop with N parallel conductors, with a loss resistance 1/N times that > of a single conductor loop, but with the same radiation resistance. > This would also give rise to the same N times efficiency improvement. > So from the conductor loss point of view, increasing the number of > conductors in the loop should improve efficiency by much the same > amount, it would not matter much whether the turns are connected in > series or parallel. > > However, the multi-turn loop inductance is also approximately > proportional to N^2, if the turns are fairly close together. The > current in the multi-turn loop will be reduced by a factor of N to > achieve the same radiated power. Most of the loop impedance is due to > its inductance, so the overall voltage across the loop will increase > by a factor of N for the same radiated power.This means a greater > electric field strength around the antenna, and so increased > environmental losses due to the multiple turns - dielectric loss > increases as the square of the applied electric field. So assuming a > constant value of environmental loss (1.5ohm in your calculation) is > not realistic, if a significant proportion of this resistance is due > to dielectric losses, which is probably the case for most practical > antennas. Probably the main virtue of the transmitting loop is the > reduced environmental loss due to it being a relatively low-impedance, > low-voltage device. so to maintain this advantage, it would seem to be > a better idea to have multiple parallel turns rather than series turns. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > Dear Jim, LF Group I do thank you for your comprehensive answer. In particular, I did like your remarks concerning the contribution of increased dielectric losses ( as one increases the number of turns) in the overall environmental loss. In some way it is still an open issue but as you've said, from the point of view of practical antenna design , each tenth of Ohm counts... 73 de Piotr, sq7mpj qth: Lodz /jo91rs/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de09.mx.aol.com (rly-de09.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.145]) by air-de06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE061-4fd4afbc07c33e; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:00:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE092-4fd4afbc07c33e; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:59:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8UZi-0005kj-FI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:58:38 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8UZh-0005ka-U2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:58:37 +0000 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.155]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8UZf-000238-AQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:58:37 +0000 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so859085fga.10 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:58:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=eLTG9PIH3/Xc0fJceubkAI/20S3HskZlYFgv+6j+DE4=; b=JzzPun6QJCc8WVJpOvgyQjn0Q+JCrOpdZUf2zYlkq7z42JcQPWOxAjKjNT2qgiAxTT Q0KeQlJLi04mnbRP6S1NAGqsSWDjGxA9vb854Sfn9EYW8FrSl6QbRZzCyGP1nScEUFat X9hOlnSIrsfUJlaCoMvmrAZCgl5QRXHgsiw90= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=vzJTX00cDkqVljccuuZI9cdc6IbMN95d7TxU2jpUIluJEFmc7mP4QfP7rfT/4GmM5V YXk6y6WcvVSjcTMQtWeQ/SeBnLyJRp2XhooqkCu4jaPzJk6nKbqlypDa0ccj5Cqh6c+n okjQ//QH3JwoQBCe+APffIFuAd99mowcy8TSI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.183.37 with SMTP id s37mr270811hbg.90.1258012713179; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:58:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <789669B7117F49968285748B0E5D9871@AGB> References: <789669B7117F49968285748B0E5D9871@AGB> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:58:33 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: Re: LF: 2009-11-09 09:12 G4JNT 0.503849 -23 0 IO90iv 0.2 K1JT Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f79482e45a0a047827e88b X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m260.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001485f79482e45a0a047827e88b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I queried a few instances on this some months ago, and several stations sugegsted the log was genuine. They're in the database, and can be found by searching with callsign and reporter filters set. Those roughly coincided with being heard by A1AA, which is more likely to be genuine. Andy www.g4jnt.com this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny state 2009/11/11 Graham > This report is -NOT- confirmed by K1JT , > Most likely is reporting station has not > set the station details and the default > settings are still in place > > WSPR version 2 is due for release soon > default settings will be 'blank' to prevent > this in the future > > G .. > > > > *From:* Graham > *Sent:* Monday, November 09, 2009 8:53 PM > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* LF: 2009-11-09 09:12 G4JNT 0.503849 -23 0 IO90iv 0.2 K1JT FN20 > 5599 288 > > 2009-11-09 09:12 > G4JNT 0.503849 -23 0 IO90iv 0.2 K1JT FN20 5599 288 > > At 09-12 ... amazing ! > > G .. > > > > > --001485f79482e45a0a047827e88b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I queried a few instances on this some months ago, and several statio= ns sugegsted the log was genuine.=A0 They're in the database, and can= be found by searching with callsign and reporter filters set.=A0=A0=A0 Th= ose roughly coincided with being heard by A1AA, which is more likely to be= genuine.

Andy
www.g4jnt.= com

this email has been scanned for political correctness by th= e nanny state


2009/11/11 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>=
This report is -NOT- confirmed by K1J= T ,
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set the=A0station =A0details and the= =A0 default
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WSPR version 2 is=A0 due=A0 for=A0 re= lease soon
default settings will be 'blank&#= 39; to=A0 prevent
this in the=A0 future
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From: Graham
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 8:53 PM
Subject: LF: 2009-11-09 09:12 G4JNT 0.503849 -23 0 IO90iv 0.2= K1JT FN20 5599 288

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 =A0G4JNT=A0 =A00.503849=A0 =A0-23=A0 =A00=A0 =A0IO90iv=A0 =A00.2=A0 =A0K1JT=A0 =A0FN20=A0 =A05599=A0 =A0288=A0
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--001485f79482e45a0a047827e88b-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC061-b2e4af9a176284; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:23:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC072-b2e4af9a176284; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:23:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7uPg-0007sd-Nx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:21:52 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7uPf-0007sU-T1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:21:51 +0000 Received: from smtp816.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.245]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7uPd-0004VE-6A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:21:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 43319 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2009 17:21:39 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=2tY5sH17lsJ+YQzdQxN6xx9coJ7PyVNakBTaVB5j+ZkmrpbxJeyJoKi+LMMwY3bzudREDkt1MN2D+jFJQfsDwj3QUDziIEDEr0VggDWsOooxgqTRJZC2xUONlD4UcNXbQqO25V0ANFGgJzl3YL+zo6SMcKKgxKMziRMinAWEH0o= ; Received: from unknown (HELO DennisPC) (dennis.easterling@86.157.175.252 with login) by smtp816.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Nov 2009 17:21:39 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: H_MJu2qswBDkdHeCAZfwexko6VNOiMP5URzYEvz3WrE5v1grQm6fnvJecjM9 X-YMail-OSG: eQI.4LsVM1ka4EteswPWVWXR9TGStBzaCh9lbkTgbQssa6mP6ZIDAheZOLJVLMysMK.ic1B_J2pkVVRvofCheuvvcelHBi6pFKgfVClORM.iiXe.oR2YDwyrjKqDKVbBUQDwtxiVR9bzCCD03DRUCznLpCQRUHj0YpBIYsE_ru6YDdPGuaO1hcrSDH30Cbzzkb8RVTCaREz5sZnSD1nxh4TuibF9vKJEwRRNWC2xtM3SB27yVoU4ShNNioM2azqeI5onrRLCXXj97A0VzP4p4ZSPdlhcDycaMK4- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "DENNIS EASTERLING" To: References: <112811.74996.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001b01ca6225$fcddd970$0617aac0@jimdesk> In-Reply-To: <001b01ca6225$fcddd970$0617aac0@jimdesk> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:21:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0027_01CA622A.41239580" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING, LINES_OF_YELLING_2,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01CA622A.41239580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jim I was speaking figuratively as you are so near and on my xtl frequency= . My comment was directed at Chris' statment in email subject1000 QS= Os, who also suffers and others who have complained about beacons in= general. In fact the band is often dead for hours on end and it is= nice to find any signal, beacon or QSO, especially when testing. My= point is that is there should be room for both beacons and QSOs, th= en follows a suggestion that LFrs may like to come to some agreement= about reserving a section for each mode. Hoping I did not offend, 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: James Cowburn=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 4:51 PM Subject: LF: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Hi Dennis =20 I did not realize I was causing you QRM. A quick e-mail would have= alerted me to it, rather than me being a "pain". I'm happy to work= out a compromise where we operate at separate times or if you suggest= a different frequency for me to work on. Just drop me a line with you= r ideas on this. =20 With best regards =20 =20 Jim =20 =20 Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group= @blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of DENNIS EASTERLING Sent: 10 November 2009 16:13 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO =20 Congratulations Chris. =20 Most wspr stations seem to congregate at the top end of the band and= are not too much trouble. Jim G7NKS is the biggest pain as he sits= on my xtl frequency and is so close. Maybe a compromise would be fo= r people using beacons to keep to one segment of the band (hopefully= not 502.2 kHz -hee) =20 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Chris Osborn=20 To: LF Group=20 Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 6:03 PM Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO =20 LF It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 60= 0m. This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were= 600m / 80m. Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and= EI0CF - No. 998. QSO break-down according to mode: 928 CW, 34 RTTY and 5 QR= SS 600m STATIONS My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and= many of these go back to the start of the UK 600m allocation in Marc= h 2007. Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excludi= ng beacons). Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard= of again: G3KZU, G3YHV . . . Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT: G3UN= T, G3VTT, G4GDR. . . MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the= same stations many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of= my total contacts. My most frequently worked stations are: GW3UEP - 120 G3KEV - 102 M0FMT - 90 G3ZWH - 80 (al= as now SK) G3DXZ - 67 G4GDR - 60 EI0CF/ GI4DPE - 51 M0JXM= - 48 G3UNT - 45 G3VTT - 38 CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a= cross-band QSO: DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . . and our few EU MF friends are still active: ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . . WSPR ON 600m I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for= the WSPR mode was never achieved for hand sent Morse (CW), which aft= er all is the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF ma= rine band. If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stati= ons operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band= then I guess it may be time for me to QSY. 73 Chris G3XIZ =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01CA622A.41239580 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Jim
 
I was speaking figuratively as you ar= e so near=20 and on my xtl frequency.   My comment was directed= at Chris'=20 statment in email subject1000 QSOs, who also suffers and others= who have=20 complained about beacons in general.   In fact the band is= often dead=20 for hours on end and it is nice to find any signal, beacon or QSO, esp= ecially=20 when testing.  My point is that  is there should be room=20 for both beacons and QSOs,  then follows a suggest= ion that=20 LFrs may like to come to some agreement about reserving a se= ction for=20 each mode.
 
Hoping I did not offend, 73 Dennis=20 M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 10,= 2009 4:51=20 PM
Subject: LF: RE: Re: G3XIZ -= 1000 th MF=20 QSO

Hi=20 Dennis

&= nbsp;

I did= not realize I=20 was causing you QRM.  A quick e-mail would have alerted me to= it, rather=20 than me being a =93pain=94.   I=92m happy to work out a co= mpromise where=20 we operate at separate times or if you suggest a different frequency= for me to=20 work on. Just drop me a line with your ideas on=20 this.

&= nbsp;

With= best=20 regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

Dr. Ja= mes Cowburn=20 G7NKS<= FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>

From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshe= ep.org] On= Behalf Of DENNIS=20 EASTERLING
Sent:= 10 November=20 2009 16:13
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject:<= /B> LF: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF=20 QSO

 

Congratulations=20 Chris.

 

Most wspr stations seem to=20 congregate at the top end of the band and are not too much=20 trouble.    Jim G7NKS is the biggest pain as he sits= on my xtl=20 frequency and is so close.   Maybe a compromise would be= for people=20 using beacons to keep to one segment of the band (hopefully not 502.= 2 kHz=20 -hee)

 

73 Dennis=20 M0JXM

----- Original Message -----= =20

From:= = Chris Osborn=20

To: LF Group= =20

Sent: Sunday,=20 November 08, 2009 6:03 PM

Subject= : LF:=20 G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO

 

LF
<= BR>It was a red-letter day today=20 as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m.
This includes 72 cross-= band=20 contacts, virtually all of which were 600m / 80m.

Rog GW3UE= P was my=20 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0CF - No. 998.
QSO=20 break-down according to mode:     928 CW,  34= RTTY =20 and   5 QRSS

600m STATIONS

My perso= nal 600m=20 (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many of these go back=20 to the start of the UK  600m allocation in March 2007.
Of= these I=20 have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding beacons)= .
Many=20 stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of= =20 again:  G3KZU, G3YHV . . .
Others were once very active bu= t have=20 subsequently gone QRT:  G3UNT, G3VTT, G4GDR. . .

MO= ST=20 FREQUENTLY WORKED

With so few active operators it is ob= vious that=20 one will work the same stations many times and the top 10 stations= account=20 for 70% of my total contacts.
My most frequently worked station= s=20 are:

GW3UEP - 120     G3KEV -=20 102      M0FMT - 90   &nbs= p;=20 G3ZWH  -  80  (alas now SK)
G3DXZ  &nb= sp;=20 -   67     G4GDR -  =20 60      EI0CF/ GI4DPE  -  51&nb= sp; =20 M0JXM - 48
G3UNT    -  =20 45     G3VTT  -   38

= CROSS-BAND=20 AND EU STATIONS

There are a few 'regular' stations who= listen to=20 600m and enjoy a cross-band QSO:
DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ,= PA0LCE,=20 G3TVF . . .

and our few EU MF friends are still active:
= ON4KTJ,=20 OR7T and OZ8NJ. . .

WSPR ON 600m

I personally= find it=20 sad that the present level of enthusiasm for the WSPR mode was nev= er=20 achieved for  hand sent Morse (CW), which after all is the mo= de which I=20 call to mind when thinking of the old MF marine band.
If the WS= PR=20 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stations operatin= g 24/7 in=20 the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band then I guess it ma= y be time=20 for me to QSY.

73 Chris=20 G3XIZ






 

------=_NextPart_000_0027_01CA622A.41239580-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da06.mx.aol.com (rly-da06.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.80]) by air-da03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA032-a734b05905c7; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:37:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA063-a734b05905c7; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:37:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBBrQ-00023n-71 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:36:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBBrP-00023e-Mt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:36:03 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBBrO-0001Ot-UX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:36:03 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3412.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 60C9F1C00084 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:35:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3412.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 53A061C00085 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:35:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.37.171]) by mwinf3412.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id ACC8E1C00084 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:35:52 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091119183552707.ACC8E1C00084@mwinf3412.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <955F0C15833A459FA2557314E925534C@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <4B0570B4.8040209@telia.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:35:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR 2.0 is now available Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 All I asked Joe K1JT , this question a short time ago, below is the reply G .. > Q : Is there a means to > compensate for the sound card sampling rate? , No, but I think an even better feature. The sample rate in WSPR 2.0 will always be 48000 Hz. This will prevent a problem that occurs in a few systems that insist on sampling at 44100 Hz and then resampling (in the driver) to the 12000 Hz requested by WSPR 1.2 ... and doing a *very* poor job of the resampling. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Andy Talbot" Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 5:29 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: WSPR 2.0 is now available > > It has a calibration procedure built in, but as far as I can make out, > is aimed at solving frequency offset / tuning errors. I may have > missed something, but there seems to be no facility to calibrate for > soundcard errors in the same way as WSJT does, which can affect symbol > timing . As we found in discussion on theis reflector a year or so > ago. Sample rate timing error is enough to destroy WSPR decoding > even when signals are strong. > > May be wrong, and will go and re read the appendices associated with > calibration, but no mention is made, specifically, of soundcard > sampling rate error - only refrences to frequency error. > FOrtunately, as WSPR is designed around 12000Hz sampling, this is > rarely out by more than a few ppm in most modern cards. See my > Column in the latest RadCom for some soundcard sampling rate > measurements - and how bad some are > > > Andy > www.g4jnt.com > > This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health > and safety police > > > > 2009/11/19 Johan Bodin : >> >> http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/ >> >> >> 73 >> Johan SM6LKM >> >> >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me04.mx.aol.com (rly-me04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.38]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINME082-9b04b14086a254; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:01:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME044-9b04b14086a254; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:01:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NFAXI-0007Yy-Up for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:59:44 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NFAXI-0007Yp-FM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:59:44 +0000 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NFAXH-0003yT-OT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:59:44 +0000 Received: from aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091130175938.VOCI17277.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:59:38 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.33] (really [82.22.242.219]) by aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20091130175938.VWRF2093.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.2.33]> for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:59:38 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:59:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4B140806.10012.1E82610@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=1ggfb5FlKZQUfF3vzm9UBYZ2uTfLsbs/8dSljwg5+mE= c=1 sm=0 a=9YlaCzn6_68A:10 a=VFWQ4dp1e2jwoXO1SVUA:9 a=fEDwzic-hy9uF4hps_m4iu30FKwA:4 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: DX test 136.318kHz Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 I will be transmitting "XDV" overnight (1800 - 0900 UTC) tonight using QRSS60 on 136.3180kHz. DX reports are welcome. Mike. G3XDV ========== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg04.mx.aol.com (rly-dg04.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.88]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG074-5be4afdda18352; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:13:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG045-5be4afdda18352; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:13:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N94Ng-0005lo-Qw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:12:36 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N94Ng-0005lf-5t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:12:36 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.128]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N94Ne-0008Nw-BS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:12:36 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3417.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E2EF61C00082 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:12:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3417.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D59DC1C00084 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:12:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.59.9]) by mwinf3417.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 8B9631C00082 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:12:28 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091113221228571.8B9631C00082@mwinf3417.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <016001ca64a7$959b4f20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <016001ca64a7$959b4f20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:12:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Spam-Score: 3.2 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,EXTRA_MPART_TYPE=0.815,FUZZY_OCR_WRONG_CTYPE=1.500,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=0.93,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Proper morse Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0177_01CA64AE.5CCF0A40" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0177_01CA64AE.5CCF0A40 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0178_01CA64AE.5CCF0A40" ------=_NextPart_001_0178_01CA64AE.5CCF0A40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable PROPER MORSE on the 500 K/cs band on the 12/05/09 at 2007 ...=20 Ah yes , that was a Tuesday , remember it well, right proper morse= it was too , went on for blinking ages, right in the middle of the= band, one of those fangled pc keying thingy's, splashing about like= a puppy in a puddle, happy days, don't see much now.. From: mal hamilton=20 Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 9:23 PM To: rsgb=20 Subject: LF: Proper morse Some person from the Shetlands said he never heard PROPER MORSE from= G4DMP. I worked G4DMP using PROPER MORSE on the 500 K/cs band on the 12/05/09= at 2007 utc. Could the said person be a WSPR PIRATE ? G3KEV ------=_NextPart_001_0178_01CA64AE.5CCF0A40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
PROPER MORSE on the 500 K/cs band on= =20 the 12/05/09 at 2007  ... 
 
Ah yes , that was a Tuesday , re= member=20 it  well,  right proper morse it was too  ,= went on=20 for  blinking ages, right in the  middle of the  band,= one of=20 those fangled pc keying thingy's, splashing about like a  puppy= in a=20 puddle, happy days, don't see much now..
 
 
 
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 9:23 PM
To: rsgb
Subject: LF: Proper morse

Some person from the Shetlands said= he never heard=20 PROPER MORSE from G4DMP.
I worked G4DMP using PROPER MORSE on= the 500 K/cs=20 band on the 12/05/09 at 2007 utc.
Could the said person be a WSPR= PIRATE=20 ?
G3KEV
 


------=_NextPart_001_0178_01CA64AE.5CCF0A40-- ------=_NextPart_000_0177_01CA64AE.5CCF0A40 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Emoticon1.gif" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-ID: R0lGODlhEwATALMPAPXv3v3pTvDHOei2K9u4a9qoLunPkLGLMdOZKfvbQMeyl5p4J+7Jbreb XoAyGAAAACH5BAEAAA8ALAAAAAATABMAAASu8EkJDBNjMAOmf5UgJEGQJBj3AVfpuslAdBRD vu8p04YQCIuFrzQIDgQFA2i4AAAWruYTgwiVFopnNCsUICy3hUMBvY67hcYwIHaU2Q43ZnAY uIDCUixYmC8GNzgmJyIZBQcXgYMnKIUDCA09jA4FgCcFCA4ZdFlHl5SbmQiGBx0GR0iZcXEI o5wUBH1ImK2tGQcNNCCxm70Dh7krBq2VvwgHB1kfExUNBwu4yh4RADs= ------=_NextPart_000_0177_01CA64AE.5CCF0A40-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md04.mx.aol.com (rly-md04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.142]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD102-9004b071e9721a; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:56:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD048-9004b071e9721a; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:56:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBcNt-00021h-P5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:55:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBcNt-00021Y-Cd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:55:21 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f211.google.com ([209.85.220.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBcNs-0003O4-Pw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:55:21 +0000 Received: by fxm3 with SMTP id 3so4379112fxm.4 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:55:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Vg2Vi+d3YUZ/eV5NrI6pbbDB5ICOFNrIqDwMaKlBZ4A=; b=P8bUn0PB68pdTK5I9dFkVk82YM/tdkSyhkm4TDLq/8yYDTx/sA2UK0uGV1FiuCHhGe 1Puf747NTDkyS/T7RuvNATKgdmuk9surRuToRsfXUlY3A97tN770PixlzIIyC+mulokU 3tbF5deL+Cp3BT7ZpFrwXrBpUPIr24NCxG9Bw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=mZpsqOZ9TcMzcCXD1ErfiBBT6qCKxuwmdxhNh26iMQijIiCUrzT05Iy1n3I0mVdIbO 8JOVBTtcFqLd41P/VhP+fbd0bsXYH4ilyflAz9igfTAhCMfuWqmYPpFFY/1ZVVhltrjK ISPuBY7ShIyGAEt/lYBsw+B2fKqC+3amowIOY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.163.205 with SMTP id q13mr206263hbd.132.1258757714784; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:55:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <017801ca66fb$0bf91c60$0517aac0@jimdesk> <20091118085815.7282031E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <02ac01ca6832$39e82890$0517aac0@jimdesk> <515CB1E53A2D4E02BBAB7B9E5E9CC0E8@JimPC> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:55:14 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m215.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Not sure if it is significant, or just tuning, but the log of G7NKS reports of me are about 40 - 50Hz low in frequency, and varying by a few Hz from hit-to-hit over the last few hours. Andy www.g4jnt.com This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health and safety police 2009/11/19 James Moritz : > Dear Jim, LF Group, > > FYI - Here is a spectrogram of G7NKS in WSPR recorded this evening, showing > the sidebands at +/-50Hz and +/-150Hz - I couldn't see any other spectral > components. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (rly-dc01.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.30]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC104-afd4b06ae7e24f; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:58:17 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC011-afd4b06ae7e24f; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:58:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBUv4-0006g4-Er for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:57:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBUv3-0006fv-SX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:57:05 +0000 Received: from out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.243]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBUv3-0008Nm-9w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:57:05 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgcFAEg9BktZ8e8W/2dsb2JhbACCJiuGS4RqBsZahDwE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,777,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="242084683" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([89.241.239.22]) by out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 20 Nov 2009 14:56:59 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01ca69f1$b5e614f0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:56:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: cq Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01CA69F1.B5A33F90" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01CA69F1.B5A33F90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Now cq 137 .0 cw and tuning for calls mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01CA69F1.B5A33F90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Now cq 137 .0 cw and tuning for calls=
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------=_NextPart_000_0009_01CA69F1.B5A33F90-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA093-a964b00484f3d3; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:28:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA106-a964b00484f3d3; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:28:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9jpC-00086k-9r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:27:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9jpB-00086b-Ui for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:27:45 +0000 Received: from mailout1.go2.pl ([193.17.41.11]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9jpB-0002DY-Al for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:27:45 +0000 Received: from mailout1.go2.pl (unknown [10.0.0.104]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8C8A3001A for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:27:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from o2.pl (unknown [10.0.0.67]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:27:44 +0100 (CET) From: bxi@go2.pl To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <4B0027F5.3060603@xs4all.nl> References: <000a01ca65ec$16f199e0$6402a8c0@e7010> <4B0027F5.3060603@xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4027d401.32bdadee.4b00481f.9684d@go2.pl Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:27:43 +0100 X-Originator: 89.76.56.60 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 2.3 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,INVALID_MSGID=1.71,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,SUBJECT_EXCESS_QP=0 Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_LF:_DI2AG_WSPR?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=INVALID_MSGID,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear Walter, LF Good copy your beacon: 1804 -10 1.7 0.505013 0 DI2AG JN59 27 1812 -14 1.4 0.505013 0 DI2AG JN59 27 1818 -10 1.5 0.505013 0 DI2AG JN59 27 73! Marcin SQ2BXI in SP2KDS Club: antenna longwire 120m long, 30m hight > Walter und Marianne Staubach wrote: > > Dear MF, > > DI2AG is already on air in WSPR. QRG 505.090KHz, PWR 0.4W ERP.= =20 > > Duty cycle 33%. The beacon will be busy until tomorrow morning. > > 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF >=20 > Walter > 1546 -28 1.4 0.505089 0 DI2AG JN59 27 > 73 de Ko, NL9222 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD093-9074afd9ef0239; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:01:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD057-9074afd9ef0239; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:01:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N90RL-0004Az-DN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:00:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N90RK-0004Ai-8Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:00:06 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N90RJ-0008FH-6j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:00:06 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3523.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D299D1C00085 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:59:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3523.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C40371C00086 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:59:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk (unknown [91.107.139.243]) by mwinf3523.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 796961C00085 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:59:56 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091113175956497.796961C00085@mwinf3523.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <5MsXcPDG6Z$KFw8w@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:59:34 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: David Pratt References: <00df01ca6488$e9244a80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <00df01ca6488$e9244a80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-M () X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: PIRATES Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1;format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) In a recent message, mal hamilton wrote ... >500 in EU seems to be a fun band for WSPR Beacons where no operator >participation is required just unattended=A0machines belching out bits of >data and generating QRM to the few Radio amateurs trying to get by on >CW. Not from the UK, Mal, as beacon operation is not permitted unless it is=20 specifically shown on the Special Research Permit (NoV). Without the=20 NoV, we can only operate beacons for the purpose of direction finding=20 contests on specific frequencies and bands as given in Schedule 2 of our= =20 licence and the notes appended thereto. My NoV does not authorise me to operate a beacon so my operation is=20 limited to CW using proper Morse ;-) 73 David G4DMP --=20 +- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | David M Pratt, Kippax, Leeds, UK | | http://www.g4dmp.co.uk | +- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (rly-mf01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.171]) by air-mf01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF014-9404afbd3cf252; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:22:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF016-9404afbd3cf252; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:22:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8Vre-00064N-Bh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:21:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8Vrd-00064E-UZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:21:13 +0000 Received: from relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net ([212.159.7.36]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8Vqz-0004UN-Mq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:20:34 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhgLANBi+0rUnw4R/2dsb2JhbACBSIkZhm7KW4Q8BA Received: from pih-relay04.plus.net ([212.159.14.17]) by relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 12 Nov 2009 09:20:56 +0000 Received: from [212.159.90.113] (helo=Hugh) by pih-relay04.plus.net with smtp (Exim) id 1N8VrL-00041u-T1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:20:56 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Hugh_m0wye" To: Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:20:18 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Plusnet-Relay: 5a0381c0b64b450471a27a7e493da30d X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: LF: Inductor datasheets Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 While on the subject of ferrites and identifying them, Anglia have published a 176 page data book bringing together datasheets from various inductor manufacturers. It's free to download, as is their capacitor and resistor databook. http://www.anglia.com/literature/literature.aspx 73 Hugh M0WYE From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB104-ab64b0951c43a5; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:59:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB034-ab64b0951c43a5; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:59:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCDtG-0003JP-3h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:58:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCDtF-0003JG-NH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:58:13 +0000 Received: from smtp825.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.235]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCDtD-0004Uc-Vt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:58:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 99528 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2009 14:58:05 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=KFjr8PRc2jpxd+309PDWr8WvKHqR8rJ8sD0gaXsLmKHW5bOGHaZXqnyD1OpDAaIuSs7AekbSca5AKysZ/9rI8XKgcf9SddtfKHLiiBTjxAe2jpBEj7LeC9Cl1dwVTYqTj2Kx7OdljI/vYDcr03CxAWfs0X2Ze8leV+A5HsNxhMw= ; Received: from unknown (HELO IBM7FFA209F07C) (c.ashby435@86.169.134.247 with login) by smtp825.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Nov 2009 14:58:05 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: 9STUSnaswBBSd6nO_2gAC20jmYlWRjmg8d5iYd8s.rl181aR6Sw- X-YMail-OSG: rTGx_ZUVM1ljdt5rFW.W_Ke44QOeiDqwwg2Q6pUn8knj4SlJs3NxFtSTSQMrlqzyoKWobUjWEtc2kgbhmZi95nhg4Cc8JEUnI8x2cKbDZTw7swWTPGVcSO5WBDBORA5UE5sRxQVQJZEFQj4pdQpmuUUZMZLYgBy270IlErKH0zJp97T94vEmm3ExGPME0xglROXJMI0NKk0pH7m0pFU6R9QGAps.uYb8.wXV4_y.cELYjISID_NoNZuV9reInf.qbMx_vKVpCpN_696plLzwPfAjPhkNBP8OUCN2 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "Chris" To: "RSGB LF Group" Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:58:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 136/7 Reception Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007C_01CA6B84.326D7610" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.3 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 ------=_NextPart_000_007C_01CA6B84.326D7610 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_007D_01CA6B84.326D7610" ------=_NextPart_001_007D_01CA6B84.326D7610 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Excellent copy today of DK2FC/P, and G3XDV last night just before he= closed down (capture attached of XDV). 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Excellent copy today of DK2FC/P, and= G3XDV last=20 night just before he closed down (capture attached of XDV).
Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent,=20 JO01MI.
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John Rabson F5VLF 58800 Cervon France JN17vg From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDD041-b654b1255aa2ba; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:06:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD027-b654b1255aa2ba; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:06:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEhaY-0000Lh-Rq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:05:10 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEhaY-0000LY-3y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:05:10 +0000 Received: from n14.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.41]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEhaX-0001nQ-Jk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:05:10 +0000 Received: from [68.142.200.226] by n14.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2009 11:05:02 -0000 Received: from [68.142.201.242] by t7.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2009 11:05:02 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp403.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2009 11:05:02 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 691115.10734.bm@omp403.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 22811 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2009 11:05:02 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=ZGlGKzC67fs+nhIfet5sG5LifjID2ldUX2eVZ1XqGDVLMzqY2DO6bTWORoBSspQyTQntx/DdWOd55KFGF+vjtjD0iUP2DhGo08WGxmUm5OF9dJLk4KhNQnH9n9L6rghfNq1EpAtQTE8eprAoau9r/lZiYf2cdEPPD5KIbnoaRXU= ; Received: from host86-138-92-60.range86-138.btcentralplus.com (ken.h.wright@86.138.92.60 with login) by smtp144.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2009 03:05:02 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: 9Y6mUHuswBAgnrOsukIiNdFDf95uy_Dz34nY1hlg2liKgYD952sjbg-- X-YMail-OSG: 5DhfNUUVM1lRAUcEhraM7odEpMCIeFhyrgnjfC2PBJYjC5PCgVRuUJYM31PVJJuI7x5C7.3cEzp1Op_qeU9ZD1.WGLP96RUdTufDFyn_EJigiAwwegxgdNwY2GqlK4cvGgAvjVareCwPSnQoJDtdPw9Wge2xqDaJ0CP3AJBfjbMzWlG1mmaIqUKmS05_CAvkzuQelhAmaYQHFK6nz6sORdRN0GmiGdMkWgkDQivbEI2IYAGOLYK264zomMaJjqfmNB.oQMmSbRCk7EdRnSx6geVKFVndDJ8g32Xs_ttIUzT6ORyeT5XOFQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <2746F3E144D3480AB85CD466920B1313@lindavideo> From: "Ken" To: Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:04:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: 4kv diode Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0028_01CA70E3.CAFC4D20" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01CA70E3.CAFC4D20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello All. I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or equivalent diode, BY4 4kv @ 1A, BY6= 6kv @ 1A, I have searched the web and looked in Farnell, any ideas= please. 73. Ken M0KHW =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01CA70E3.CAFC4D20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello All.
I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or equi= valent diode,=20 BY4   4kv @ 1A, BY6  6kv @ 1A, I have searched the web= and looked=20 in Farnell, any ideas please.
 
73.
Ken
 
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<= /BODY> ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01CA70E3.CAFC4D20-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df08.mx.aol.com (rly-df08.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.21]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF071-56d4aed3e9f59; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 02:54:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF084-56d4aed3e9f59; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 02:54:08 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N4VFC-0002cH-93 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 07:52:58 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N4VFB-0002c8-HV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 07:52:57 +0000 Received: from smtp05.online.nl ([194.134.41.35]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N4VEx-0005Hb-Cu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 07:52:45 +0000 Received: from smtp05.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp05.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2FD75206A for ; Sun, 1 Nov 2009 08:52:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (s5593e077.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.147.224.119]) by smtp05.online.nl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 1 Nov 2009 08:52:42 +0100 (CET) From: To: Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 08:52:42 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <9afca2640910291656s5d215e81j7cfbe8316501e7de@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp05.online.nl) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: RE: Overnight session on 500kHz WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0025_01CA5AD0.AC6925F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_30_40, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01CA5AD0.AC6925F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Roger, 2 positive decodes in PA-land, 73 Victor PA3FNY JO22NC 0302 -29 1.4 0.503860 -1 G7NKS IO92 20 0306 -8 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 0310 -25 1.7 0.503860 -1 G7NKS IO92 20 0312 -10 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 0322 -19 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 0322 -24 1.4 0.503861 -1 G7NKS IO92 20 0326 -8 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 0326 -29 2.4 0.503925 0 G3XBM JO02 0 0330 -8 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 0336 -15 0.4 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 0342 -11 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 0442 -13 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 0446 -10 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 0452 -3 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 0500 -5 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 0506 -9 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 0506 -29 2.4 0.503924 0 G3XBM JO02 0 0508 -25 1.6 0.503861 -1 G7NKS IO92 20 0512 -7 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 0516 -22 1.2 0.503860 -1 G7NKS IO92 20 0522 -14 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 0526 -6 0.2 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Roger Lapthorn Verzonden: vrijdag 30 oktober 2009 0:57 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: LF: Overnight session on 500kHz WSPR With eight unique stations copying me so far this evening I'm going to leave the <1mW ERP 500kHz WSPR beaconing running overnight in the hope that I can get a 20th station to copy me. I'd love to be received by Gus SM6BHZ in Sweden and this is <100kms further than John GM4SLV in the Shetlands, so is not an impossibility on a good night. We live on hope, optimism and good luck! 73s Roger G3XBM ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01CA5AD0.AC6925F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello=20 Roger,
 
2=20 positive decodes in PA-land,
 
73
Victor
PA3FNY
JO22NC
 
 
0302=20 -29  1.4   0.503860 -1 G7NKS IO92 20
0306  -8&n= bsp;=20 0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0310 -25  1.7&n= bsp; =20 0.503860 -1 G7NKS IO92 20
0312 -10  0.3   0.503850&n= bsp; 0=20 G4JNT IO90 23
0322 -19  0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT= IO90=20 23
0322 -24  1.4   0.503861 -1 G7NKS IO92 20
0326=  =20 -8  0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0326 -29&nb= sp;=20 2.4   0.503925  0 G3XBM JO02 0
0330  -8 = =20 0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0336 -15  0.4&n= bsp; =20 0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0342 -11  0.3   0.503= 850 =20 0 G4JNT IO90 23
0442=20 -13  0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0446 -10&n= bsp;=20 0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0452  -3 = =20 0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0500  -5 = =20 0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0506  -9 = =20 0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0506 -29  2.4&n= bsp; =20 0.503924  0 G3XBM JO02 0
0508 -25  1.6   0.5038= 61 -1=20 G7NKS IO92 20
0512  -7  0.3   0.503850  0= G4JNT IO90=20 23
0516 -22  1.2   0.503860 -1 G7NKS IO92 20
0522= -14 =20 0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0526  -6 = =20 0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van:= =20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Roger=20 Lapthorn
Verzonden: vrijdag 30 oktober 2009 0:57
Aan= :=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: LF: Overnight sess= ion on=20 500kHz WSPR

With eight unique stations copying= me so far=20 this evening I'm going to leave the <1mW ERP 500kHz WSPR beaconin= g=20 running overnight in the hope that I can get a 20th station= to copy me.=20

I'd love to be received by Gus SM6BHZ in Sweden and= this is=20 <100kms further than John GM4SLV in the Shetlands, so is not an= =20 impossibility on a good night.

We live on hope, optimism and= good=20 luck!

73s
Roger=20 G3XBM
 
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http://= g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
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G3XBM  =20  GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088
------=_NextPart_000_0025_01CA5AD0.AC6925F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me07.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINME072-9a74b0d8b5e9b; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:54:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME033-9a74b0d8b5e9b; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:54:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDNv8-00079d-HJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:52:58 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDNv8-00079U-4B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:52:58 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDNv6-0005dn-3c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:52:58 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.6] (opc1.twatt.home [192.168.1.6]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64E563B50E for ; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:52:55 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4B0D8B16.70603@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:52:54 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01ca6db1$04873810$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> <000b01ca6de1$9fb6b1a0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> In-Reply-To: <000b01ca6de1$9fb6b1a0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Class E pa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) mal hamilton wrote: > Tony The G3YXM designs are class D and not class E. I do not know of > any amateur using class E except myself. Finbar does I do (although I'm lacking a suitable antenna at the moment, so the MF TX is in mothballs) Any more.... J GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (rly-mg04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.110]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG092-a0d4b084626a3; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:57:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG047-a0d4b084626a3; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:57:28 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBw4W-000177-Ix for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:56:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBw4W-00016w-6N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:56:40 +0000 Received: from mailout06.t-online.de ([194.25.134.19]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBw4V-0001hb-Ft for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:56:40 +0000 Received: from fwd02.aul.t-online.de by mailout06.t-online.de with smtp id 1NBw4U-0007ER-02; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:56:38 +0100 Received: from df2py (Sg67RmZCohQ3i9TrKWRfIqfdBEE0XvcGkINptG3iBaM6aLZ6f-QQkbEl0rJlTjIQEP@[80.187.98.210]) by fwd02.t-online.de with esmtp id 1NBw4Q-0jsgwi0; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:56:34 +0100 From: "Wolf Ostwald" To: Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:58:16 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acpq5Pbs03VLL9BOR06jDV3EO3QoPg== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-ID: Sg67RmZCohQ3i9TrKWRfIqfdBEE0XvcGkINptG3iBaM6aLZ6f-QQkbEl0rJlTjIQEP X-TOI-MSGID: c249719c-2666-4682-a760-12e75c8d7f57 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: DI2BJ active Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01CA6AED.5B1310D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01CA6AED.5B1310D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello group ! DI2BJ will be QRV in regular CW on 505.030 for the weekend. Sorry its not WSPR. 73 de wolf df2py ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01CA6AED.5B1310D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello group !

DI2BJ will be QRV in regul= ar CW on 505.030 for the weekend. Sorry its not WSPR.

73 de wolf   df2= py

------=_NextPart_000_0013_01CA6AED.5B1310D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (rly-mf07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.177]) by air-mf05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF054-96f4af7315f95; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:00:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF075-96f4af7315f95; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:00:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7Er6-000104-46 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:59:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7Er5-0000zv-JX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:59:23 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.55]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7Eq8-0002UB-MF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:58:25 +0000 Received: from edmwaa03.telusplanet.net ([75.157.140.241]) by priv-edmwes33.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091108205918.PZVD25474.priv-edmwes33.telusplanet.net@edmwaa03.telusplanet.net> for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:59:18 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.67] (d75-157-140-241.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.140.241]) by edmwaa03.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 087B13562FE0A2DB for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:59:15 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4AF73120.6070007@telus.net> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:59:12 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <027601ca60a2$841cd150$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <020b01ca60a9$4495adc0$0201a8c0@Clemens04> <029701ca60af$4f444d20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <029701ca60af$4f444d20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hey Mal Would you consider firing up a QRSS beacon for a couple of hours before and during your sunrise in the NA waterhole 137778.0Hz +/- 3Hz? DCF39 has been audible for the last couple of nights and it may be our time to get a signal from EU into the west coast of NA. I'd like to see how the path works while open and see whether there is a possibility of QSO in the future. Here's your chance at another first... TU es 73 Scott mal hamilton wrote: > Two points > > Why waste 2.4 kHz when QRS only needs a few Hz with a better S/N ratio. > > You agree that a faint trace is visible. If this faint trace was QRS > mode only a few Hz bandwidth would be necessary to read the > intellegence and the signal/noise would be superior. > G3KEV > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clemens Paul" > To: > Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 7:23 PM > Subject: LF: Re: WSPR > > >> Mal, >> >>> WSPR reports amongst stns indicate reception reports usually minus >>> dB. Most of these >>> stations are usually PLUS >>> dB with me or very close to that figure. >> >> WSPR refers the indicated SNR to a BW of 2,4kHz. >> So if your receiving BW is say 100Hz your actual SNR is better by >> ~14dB than WSPR >> reports. >> >>> A trace of the signal is visible long before a decode takes place, >>> therefore why >>> not use QRS in >> >the first place. >> >> This may be an issue of your RX/soundcard setup. >> I can assure you that with my Perseus SDR RX,set to a RBW of less >> than one Hertz >> for the display,I can decode every WSPR signal which shows even only >> a faint trace on >> the waterfall diagram. >> At least this is my experience so far. >> >> 73 >> Clemens >> DL4RAJ >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: mal hamilton >> To: rsgb >> Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 7:37 PM >> Subject: LF: WSPR >> >> >> WSPR reports amongst stns indicate reception reports usually minus >> dB. Most of these stations >> are usually PLUS dB with me or very close to that figure. >> So what does that prove. I would say it depends on the RX antenna and >> not necessarily >> propagation. A large antenna yields better results than a small loop >> or active whip. >> When I switch from my 1/4 wave inv L for 500 khz to a smaller 40 m >> resonated loop for 500 the >> signals then do go down to a minus db figure. >> So what is all this all ABOUT ? >> There is also the TX pwr to consider. Two transmitters from the same >> location one using QRO >> and the other QRP will be received at different levels at a specified >> RX location. There is a >> lot of misrepresentation and misleading information by WSPR operator >> A trace of the signal is visible long before a decode takes place, >> therefore why not use QRS >> in the first place. >> >> G3KEV >> >> >> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.55/2489 - Release Date: >> 11/08/09 07:37:00 >> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.55/2489 - Release Date: > 11/08/09 07:37:00 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINME023-9cf4b11df171c7; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:40:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME083-9cf4b11df171c7; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:40:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEZgo-0006GL-DD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:39:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEZgn-0006GC-MR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:39:05 +0000 Received: from lnx500.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de ([130.83.156.225]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEZgm-0002cy-0k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:39:05 +0000 Received: from FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.212.129]) by lnx500.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.14.2/8.14.2/HRZ/PMX) with SMTP id nAT2d1Ic020143 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:39:01 +0100 (envelope-from schaefer@hst.tu-darmstadt.de) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de) by FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de with AVK MailGateway; for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:39:02 +0100 Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:39:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AA69@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> In-Reply-To: <42720A798A384ADDA93A8954B4299F9B@White> Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: LF: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz Thread-Index: Acpwc+LF7+3G10vZTs23jFP6cJjPhwAKI+Ag From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= To: X-AVK-Virus-Check: AVB 19.594;28.11.2009 X-PMX-TU: seen v0.99a by 5.5.8.383112, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2009.11.29.23042 X-PMX-SPAMCHECK: outgoing mail X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: AW: LF: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CA709D.1B813451" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA709D.1B813451 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Markus! Now it=B4s half past 3 in the nigeht and i am back ;-) Thanks for your infos! 120=B5V/m, what does this mean for my calculated ER= P? I=B4ve never got such a field strength rprt yet but we could calculate= it if we know the distance. And we do! I tried to reach you per email (the address on your site) cause I have a= question about your hell program. So, perhaps we could do it here or in= a private mail... =20 Let=B4s do a QSO the next time, in CW, if possible. =20 GN, Stefan =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --------- Dipl.-Ing. Stefan Sch=E4fer FG Hochspannungstechnik / High Voltage Laboratories TU Darmstadt Landgraf-Georg-Str. 4 D-64283 Darmstadt, Germany Telefon: +49 6151 16 4495 Fax: +49 6151 16 2329 http://www.hst.tu-darmstadt.de =20 =20 -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org] Im Auftrag von Markus Vester Gesendet: Samstag, 28. November 2009 22:38 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: Re: LF: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz =20 Good evening Stefan, =20 you are producing an excellent signal here in Nuernberg! The fieldstrength= was up to about 120 uV/m, with some variation (probably caused by kite mo= vement). =20 Have fun, and best of luck =20 Markus, DF6NM in JN59NK=20 =20 =20 =20 From: Stefan Sch=E4fer =20 Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 11:36 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz =20 Dear Lowfers,=20 This is my first mail to the reflector and so i want to say hello to all= :-) It=B4s nice to be able to participate now here although my activity= will stay on the band mostly ;-) If there will be no weather problems this evening I will agn be qrv on 137= in CW (abt 136,8) and/or QRSS3.=20 Since abt 3 weeks I am qrv again. Since I live in a city I have no possibi= lities to be on LF, even not in RXing (QRM)... Therefore and cause I like= to be in the nature I am now qrv in /p. I use a kite antenna, 100m up (!)= . This should have a radiation resistance of 0,83 Ohms. My overall resista= nce is abt 30...55 Ohms, depending on the ground a achieve. So you can ima= gine abt the ERP. I have a 1KW class E PA that I use with limited power.= But The ERP easily reaches the 1W ERP limit, as one can imagine.. My RX is still poor but I am working on a receiving loop. Now, I use the= TX ant for receiving that causes some problems ;-) It would be nice to get some QSOs or even RX-RPRTs tonight. Until now I go= t 2 QSOs in each activity ;-) Best regards,=20 Stefan / DK7FC ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA709D.1B813451 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello Ma= rkus!

Now it= =B4s half past= 3 in the nigeht and i am back ;-)

Thanks= for your infos! 120=B5V/m, what does this mean for my calculated ERP? I=B4ve never got suc= h a field strength rprt yet but we could calculate it if we know the distance. And= we do!

I tried= to reach you per email (the address on your site) cause I have a question about your hell program. So, perhaps we could do it here or in a private mail…

 

Let=B4s= do a QSO the next time, in CW, if possible.

 

GN, Stef= an

 

 ------------------------------------------------= -------------------= ---------------
= Dipl.-Ing. Stefan Sch=E4fer

FG Hochspannungstechnik / High Voltage Labor= atories
TU Darmstadt
Landgraf-Georg-Str.= 4
D-64283 Darmstadt, Ge= rmany
Telefon: +49 6151 16= 4495

Fax: +49 6151 16 2329

http://www.hst.tu-darmstadt.de

 <= /p>

-----Urspr=FCngl= iche Nachricht-----
Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org] Im Auftrag von Markus= Vester
Gesendet: Samstag, 28. Nove= mber 2009 22:38
An: rsgb_lf_group@blackshee= p.org
Betreff: Re: LF: DK7FC/p qr= v this evening on 137kHz

 

Good evening Stefa= n,

 

you are producing&= nbsp;an excellent signal here in Nuernberg! The fieldstrength was up to about 120 uV/m,= with some variation (probably caused by kite movement).

 

Have fun, and best= of luck

 

Markus,

DF6NM in JN59NK 

 

 

 

Sent: Saturday, Nov= ember 28, 2009 11:36 AM

Subject: LF: DK7FC/= p qrv this evening on 137kHz

 

Dear Lowfers,
This is my first mail to the reflector and so i want to say hello to all= :-) It=B4s nice to be able to participate now here although my activity will= stay on the band mostly ;-)
If there will be no weather problems this evening I will agn be qrv on 137= in CW (abt 136,8) and/or QRSS3.
Since abt 3 weeks I am qrv again. Since I live in a city I have no possibilities to be on LF, even not in RXing (QRM)... Therefore and cause= I like to be in the nature I am now qrv in /p. I use a kite antenna, 100m up= (!). This should have a radiation resistance of 0,83 Ohms. My overall resistanc= e is abt 30...55 Ohms, depending on the ground a achieve. So you can imagine ab= t the ERP. I have a 1KW class E PA that I use with limited power. But The ERP ea= sily reaches the 1W ERP limit, as one can imagine..
My RX is still poor but I am working on a receiving loop. Now, I use the= TX ant for receiving that causes some problems ;-)
It would be nice to get some QSOs or even RX-RPRTs tonight. Until now I go= t 2 QSOs in each activity ;-)
Best regards,
Stefan / DK7FC

------_=_NextPart_001_01CA709D.1B813451-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc03.mx.aol.com (rly-mc03.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.87]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMC021-d644b0d7db617e; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:56:06 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC034-d644b0d7db617e; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:55:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDN0s-0006jN-29 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:54:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDN0r-0006jE-I6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:54:49 +0000 Received: from smtp816.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.245]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDN0q-0003NN-UH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:54:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 74701 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2009 18:54:43 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=hwDKEwsmlUo4r0d0MC0IoY4oY0pf64OykTvgcFNlw5z5u6zne+QWJuJkzWyO0ebF2ou06JNhXl0qRPg/mATCYXE3iLFZLzforq9m/SGo4+u+/39IbGWg3KWq8Ylvie31PnJsuyUb7gu0KhuhJIcGkudw7zj3dVwZKHv0OW7hjbE= ; Received: from unknown (HELO IBM7FFA209F07C) (c.ashby435@86.169.134.234 with login) by smtp816.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 2009 18:54:42 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: 9STUSnaswBBSd6nO_2gAC20jmYlWRjmg8d5iYd8s.rl181aR6Sw- X-YMail-OSG: .UymD.4VM1lHgfGUKdMNrt1ccQl1Bf4_ZZDUBRJhVv1KUs2QKhe35dOHkyXACDBN.DUVRMReIf6OuId270a_MzoHUfa0qT8d6cW9oVx6J5nrtmPRj7wSRqIZhqxa3YKlwykGOnradriFUTreV_2uLdaoPWEOVvwjTLTuMR07RKrYWm5jkf_sgxbv0xf4T0v4mjhyTP_MLTyCRb86QmCjoRdFHIMAE_rtDcBhPttCewF.B4bkVZwiN0jVdU8mkrSaDEZpG3gbrqU1QKr.kJIVy6.xefQk2H2iFQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "Chris" To: References: <4B0D797B.4050304@online.fr> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:54:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: Re: LF: Who? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Merci beaucoup Jean-Pierre. 73, Chris, G4AYT. ----- Original Message ----- From: ""Jean-Pierre Méré (F1AFJ)"" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 6:37 PM Subject: Re: LF: Who? RA3YO ! Chris a écrit : > Hi All, > Does anybody know who was sending 'Y' last evening just before midnight > UTC on approx. 137.778kHz, please? > Thanks, > Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, JO01MI. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD084-b734afd740f3b; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:58:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD045-b734afd740f3b; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:58:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8xai-0002qq-Gy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:57:36 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8xai-0002qh-3v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:57:36 +0000 Received: from smtp21.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.2]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8xag-0005tA-Cp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:57:36 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2106.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E83A8700009A for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:57:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (17.214.194-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.194.214.17]) by msfrf2106.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 5397A7000095 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:57:26 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091113145726342.5397A7000095@msfrf2106.sfr.fr Message-ID: <000601ca6471$9d3070c0$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: References: <004001ca646a$c6ec0cf0$3ab27cbc@niurhaxf0xcqlj> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:57:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091113-0, 13/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: sp2kds Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-2"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Marcin LF I'll be there tonight Now I'm on transmission 137,705 khz Claude F8boj rechercher ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcin" To: Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 3:08 PM Subject: LF: sp2kds > Dear LF > Station SP2KDS will be today started from 21:00 on 137.700 (qrss3) and > later > 137.778 kHz (qrss60). > In time 20:00-21:00 search stations on 500kHz band. > -- > Vy 73! > Marcin SQ2BXI > (SP2KDS Team) > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb10.mx.aol.com (rly-mb10.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.168]) by air-mb06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB062-d2d4af8baf264; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:59:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB101-d2d4af8baf264; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:59:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7f4A-0005N2-8G for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:58:38 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7f49-0005Mt-Ps for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:58:37 +0000 Received: from mcgi66.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.202]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7f46-0006sJ-FF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:58:37 +0000 Received: from mcgi66.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi66.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6732411557 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:58:28 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [81.195.13.137] by mcgi66.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:58:28 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:58:28 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <001b01ca6086$cd0966b0$0617aac0@jimdesk> <004101ca60ab$ef362e60$0900a8c0@lark> <4AF7224D.4010707@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <009601ca60c5$84c5f4b0$0900a8c0@lark> Message-Id: <700100929.1257814708.48698216.38628@mcgi66.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Losses due to ant in tree? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 * Alan Melia [Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:25:13 -0000]: > Yeah well in your case,John, the nearest tree is on the Mainland May be sending to John an russian oak? It will be great mast after 600 years... > Best Wishes > Alan G3NYK > hi! 73! Roman, RW3ADB > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John P-G" > To: > Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 7:55 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Re: Losses due to ant in tree? > > > > > > > > Alan Melia wrote: > > > May thumbnail approack says put a vertical at least > > > as far away from trees, <...> as it is high. Not aways easy! > > > > > > > > > Depends where you live :-) > > > > http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/DCP_2235.JPG > > > > John > > GM4SLV > > Treeless Shetland > > > -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me05.mx.aol.com (rly-me05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.39]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME012-9b94b03c99a120; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:17:09 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME055-9b94b03c99a120; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:17:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAhZk-0001GW-Fd for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:15:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAhZj-0001GN-Jt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:15:47 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAhZi-0006Tt-UB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:15:47 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 992F47B8066 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:15:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from PC_van_Rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-106.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.106]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E8FD31E702 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:15:33 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:15:36 +0100 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <02ac01ca6832$39e82890$0517aac0@jimdesk> References: <017801ca66fb$0bf91c60$0517aac0@jimdesk> <20091118085815.7282031E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <02ac01ca6832$39e82890$0517aac0@jimdesk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091118101533.6E8FD31E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim, I lowered my antenna last night as gales up to 100km/h are predicted. Regarding CW: let me know when you are ready and I will look out for you. I worked G's with only few mW ERP in the past. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T At 10:33 18/11/2009, you wrote: >Hi Rik > >That's exactly what mine are. I think it's a mixture of stretching the Pa >on the IC735 so its at the edge of its envelope (the radio equivalent of a >stick shaker or stall horn on a plane!) and also RF leakage and mains >leakage into the soundcard system on the Dell lappy. It's only apparent on >Rx and Tx of strong/local signals where the fundamental is so high (>0db) >that the first side lobes at -30dB are still within WSPR capture range. > >It's mainly an issue with reports from M0FMT (his fault for living so close >to me...hi hi ) and from M0BMU (his fault for having such a good 500 set up >and helping me to get on the band in the first case! Just joking Jim) > >I can cure it by winding back the power a chunk but then I am limiting >myself Dx wise. > >Last night I received my first transatlantic stations W1xxx and AA1A. I >think my antenna mods and good condx really helped. > >My next challenge is to get >1000km and then T/A as well as doing some more >CW QSO's. I will try and get a QSO with Mal perhaps > >Actually my first challenge is to keep my antennas up in the 30kt wind that >is blowing around here today!! > > >With best regards > > >Jim G7NKS > > >Dr. James Cowburn >E james.cowburn@virgin.net > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe >Sent: 18 November 2009 08:58 >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >Subject: Re: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands > >Hello Jim, LF group, > >I have noticed "double receptions" of my WSPR signal from a number of >stations. When it occurred the ghost signal was always 100Hz higher >and was 33-36dB weaker. >As the frequency shift and signal strength difference was the same at >the different RX stations I conclude that the cause was with me. >I think that it is just some AM modulation in the PA caused by the >100Hz ripple of the PSU. > >73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > >At 02:13 18/11/2009, you wrote: > >Dear Jim LF Group, > > > >Looking at the sidebands on the G7NKS WSPR signals, mains hum or other >noise > >by itself is not a sufficient explanation of what is seen. Simply adding > >50Hz, 150Hz, etc. noise into the PC audio channel, then feeding the result > >into an SSB TX would give unwanted CW at frequencies offset from the SSB > >carrier frequency by +/-50Hz, 150Hz and so on, i.e. with the carrier "dial > >frequency" at 502.4kHz, unmodulated carriers would appear at 502.45kHz, > >502.55kHz and so on, in addition to the WSPR signal at around 503.9kHz. > >However, these would probably largely be removed by the SSB filter in the > >rig. Instead, we see unwanted sidebands offset from the wanted WSPR signal > >frequency by +/- 50Hz, 150Hz, with identical modulation to the wanted > >signal. This requires some sort of non-linear process to cause the > >intermodulation between the presumed mains noise and the WSPR signal > >somewhere in the TX chain. > > > >One possibility is that intermodulation occurs in the PA. Jim's description > >suggests that he is persuading the HF PA in the IC735 to produce output at > >500k. At this frequency, the PA linearity may well be poor due to the > >impedance matching, coupling, decoupling and feedback components in the PA > >being wrong for the frequency, and high flux densities occuring in ferrite > >components due to the low operating frequency. But this wouldn't explain >why > >Jim also gets multiple received signals from a strong station with a clean > >signal, which implies some identical noise source and distortion in the > >receive path. It would also mean the mains noise getting through the > >filtering in the rig somehow. > > > >A possibility that would explain the unwanted sidebands appearing on both >TX > >and RX signals is if one of the oscillators in the system has mains noise > >sidebands. The sound card clock seems unlikely, since this is just a simple > >crystal oscillator. I see the IC735 has some sort of multi-loop PLL > >synthesiser, which would certainly be prone to this type of spurious >signal, > >since any kind of mains noise getting in would modulate the VCO >frequencies, > >and would probably be the same on transmit and receive. This could be > >checked by receiving a clean carrier somewhere around 500kHz, and examining > >the audio output using Spec Lab or Argo or similar to see if 50Hz and 150Hz > >sidebands are present on the received audio tone. > > > >Cheers, Jim Moritz > >73 de M0BMU > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "James Cowburn" > >To: > >Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:26 PM > >Subject: LF: rule #2 - assumption is the brother of all foul ups > > > > > > > LF > > > > > > > > > > > > Sidebands are back! I think its caused by my TX getting hot and >bothered > > > by > > > struggling at 500. From cold it txs 50 watts but this soon drops back >to > > > around 35, and the sidebands appear. My sigs are better so having the > > > txfr > > > outside the shack and at the antenna is a vast improvement, but I now >need > > > to work on the cooling. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df09.mx.aol.com (rly-df09.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.22]) by air-df04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF043-5744afd1f741ce; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:57:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF091-5744afd1f741ce; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:57:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8rwq-0001PB-O9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:56:04 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8rwq-0001P2-3n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:56:04 +0000 Received: from relay2-v.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.76]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8rwo-0002dm-7H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:56:04 +0000 Received: from HATSHEPSOUT (ALagny-151-1-48-194.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.114.254.194]) by relay2-v.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D736135D0 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:55:56 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:55:55 +0100 From: Michel F5WK X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1923941843.20091113095555@mterrier.net> To: "w1tag@charter.net" In-Reply-To: <20091112162547.07WZ7.8495963.root@mp12> References: <20091112162547.07WZ7.8495963.root@mp12> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WD2XES WOLF 137.441 Thurs Nite Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) > WD2XES will be running WOLF(10) on 137.441 kHz tonight from 0H UTC. Repo= rts are welcome. Hi John, Here is my report. Virtual Audio Cable (VAC) was used for the first time= to link the SpectrumLab based SDR and WOLFGUI. It appeared to run quite accurately. 73 Michel / f5wk 2009-11-13 00:29:19 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 t: 24 t: 48 t: 96 t: 192 t: 288 t: 384 f: 0.020 pm:366.2 jm:349 q: -6.2 -8.8 WD2XES FRI 4ATC ? t: 480 f: 0.020 pm:502.7 jm:349 q: -4.9 -4.6 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 576 f: 0.020 pm:619.8 jm:349 q: -3.8 -3.4 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 672 f: 0.020 pm:765.5 jm:349 q: -2.8 -2.6 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 768 f: 0.020 pm:870.0 jm:349 q: -2.2 -2.4 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 864 f: 0.020 pm:935.0 jm:349 q: -1.7 -2.1 WD2XES FRI 13TH - 2009-11-13 00:43:48 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 2009-11-13 00:58:16 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 t: 24=20 t: 48=20 t: 96=20 t: 192=20 t: 288=20 t: 384=20 t: 480=20 t: 576 f: 0.020 pm:599.6 jm:262 q: -3.5 -5.1 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 672 f: 0.020 pm:778.4 jm:262 q: -2.7 -3.6 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 768 f: 0.020 pm:962.2 jm:262 q: -1.7 -3.0 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 864 f: 0.020 pm: 1032 jm:262 q: -1.3 -2.3 WD2XES FRI 13TH - 2009-11-13 01:12:44 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 2009-11-13 01:27:13 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 2009-11-13 01:41:41 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 t: 24 t: 48 t: 96 t: 192 t: 288 t: 384 t: 480 f: 0.010 pm:298.4 jm:131 q: -5.0 -7.5 P./H4C FRI 13TM ? t: 576 f: 0.010 pm:379.1 jm:131 q: -3.7 -5.0 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 672 f: 0.010 pm:421.5 jm:131 q: -3.4 -4.4 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 768 f: 0.010 pm:455.7 jm:131 q: -3.3 -4.4 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 864 f: 0.010 pm:466.2 jm:131 q: -3.4 -4.5 WD2XES FRI 13TH - 2009-11-13 01:56:09 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 2009-11-13 02:10:38 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 2009-11-13 02:25:07 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 2009-11-13 02:39:35 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 2009-11-13 02:54:04 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 t: 24 t: 48 t: 96 t: 192 t: 288 t: 384 t: 480 t: 576 t: 672 f: 0.010 pm:278.5 jm:865 q: -4.3 -5.6 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 768 f: 0.010 pm:374.4 jm:865 q: -3.8 -5.5 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 864 f: 0.010 pm:377.3 jm:865 q: -3.6 -7.5 GWNXYIH4Z* P.QE ? 2009-11-13 03:08:33 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 2009-11-13 03:23:01 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 2009-11-13 03:37:29 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 t: 24 t: 48 t: 96 t: 192 t: 288 t: 384 t: 480 t: 576 t: 672 t: 768 t: 864 f: 0.010 pm:298.2 jm:730 q: -4.7 -5.8 WD2XES FRI 13TH - 2009-11-13 03:51:58 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 2009-11-13 04:06:26 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 t: 24 t: 48 t: 96 t: 192 t: 288 f: 0.010 pm:167.2 jm:639 q: -5.5 -4.9 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 384 f: 0.010 pm:225.3 jm:639 q: -4.2 -4.2 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 480 f: 0.010 pm:236.6 jm:639 q: -4.1 -3.7 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 576 f: 0.010 pm:265.9 jm:639 q: -4.0 -3.2 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 672 f: 0.010 pm:325.0 jm:639 q: -3.7 -3.1 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 768 f: 0.010 pm:351.1 jm:639 q: -3.4 -3.2 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 864 f: 0.010 pm:417.5 jm:639 q: -2.9 -2.7 WD2XES FRI 13TH - 2009-11-13 04:20:55 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 2009-11-13 04:35:24 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 2009-11-13 04:49:52 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 2009-11-13 05:04:21 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 t: 24 t: 48 t: 96 t: 192 t: 288 t: 384 t: 480 t: 576 t: 672 f: 0.010 pm:217.7 jm:455 q: -4.4 -5.2 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 768 f: 0.010 pm:351.0 jm:455 q: -3.0 -3.7 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 864 f: 0.010 pm:438.5 jm:455 q: -1.9 -3.4 WD2XES FRI 13TH - 2009-11-13 05:18:49 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 2009-11-13 05:33:18 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 2009-11-13 05:47:47 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 t: 24 t: 48 t: 96 t: 192 t: 288 f: 0.010 pm:349.5 jm:312 q: -5.3 -6.4 WD2XDGLORHA8WE5 ? t: 384 f: 0.010 pm:421.7 jm:312 q: -4.6 -5.7 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 480 f: 0.010 pm:535.8 jm:312 q: -3.1 -4.7 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 576 f: 0.010 pm:580.9 jm:312 q: -2.8 -3.7 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 672 f: 0.010 pm:596.9 jm:312 q: -2.7 -3.2 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 768 f: 0.010 pm:706.0 jm:312 q: -1.8 -3.0 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 864 f: 0.010 pm:752.6 jm:312 q: -1.3 -2.4 WD2XES FRI 13TH - 2009-11-13 06:02:15 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 t: 24 t: 48 t: 96 t: 192 t: 288 t: 384 t: 480 f: 0.010 pm:374.4 jm:269 q: -3.9 -5.2 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 576 f: 0.010 pm:456.0 jm:269 q: -2.7 -4.5 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 672 f: 0.010 pm:534.5 jm:269 q: -2.1 -3.5 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 768 f: 0.010 pm:637.6 jm:269 q: -1.3 -2.5 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 864 f: 0.010 pm:758.0 jm:269 q: -0.4 -2.1 WD2XES FRI 13TH - 2009-11-13 06:16:44 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 2009-11-13 06:31:12 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 2009-11-13 06:45:41 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 2009-11-13 07:00:09 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df08.mx.aol.com (rly-df08.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.21]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF062-56e4b06b758160; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:36:10 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF085-56e4b06b758160; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:35:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBVVs-0006v8-CV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:35:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBVVr-0006uz-W9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:35:07 +0000 Received: from smtp826.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.13.123]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBVVr-0000CG-5p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:35:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 89970 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2009 15:35:01 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:Importance:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To; b=LLi1VrhRbHiwvwCCRYDEYxKBtb1HZoXPeO7aukpsIbbV6XO7Wg5SzBEwXOpCN03l/bCFvJ6P/S3N2jxZjNoN7UOYQWm99nX/7TptFDorjlcC3I5/rvL+Gr+ugaqX3mfdB4pysbNjlhVnhyt++1TiDNxPyvfYD0qKHntkAg1eDAM= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@86.134.202.32 with login) by smtp826.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Nov 2009 15:35:01 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: JSvqNSWswBBXc9Mk_Vd71RtGz2bViJtuZMADdmi78eLqBj_R7.fL X-YMail-OSG: czDEShEVM1kyQp8RUWnNALIxWfMu.FAXZUG.erEf.dZYSew_Sc.UcqdXnar3ToM1VDJU0_ChGiazYH1rz3GiUsyBNK8xZqS8NbSImxww6pLmptZw_fCT4MoN.U7PEwvZ.nLbmRam_5T5_98a4AMUeaHxI7BqeaITl6bAHidfsLqea4mYTgWnVhch364q2Roj4.w16ebyDWp.cGn_2tPAQ4c9STLKg.MWCAEymSj12YINvYHvaucPz8bHZd_7eiSWprQg4A0_mjTH987N_b9Uv54UQ6Y16PRxAlbskvUp4v74xDqtZvwpbrvBW0hIc6PsumnvDbYwlm0eyIYhNuno X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:35:21 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: <20091120150008.8098FF3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: something completely different Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 That's interesting. It's quite a narrow band....possibilites for the usual narrow-band modes... CW/PSK/WSPR/QRSS/DFCW? Babelfish translation below:- "The Council of the IBPT, pursuant to article 13 of the law of June 13, 2005 relating to the electronic communications, decides to authorize the holders of a radio ham licence(HAREC) to use frequency 69.950 MHz on secondary basis, with a power of 10 W EIRP and a maximum bandwidth of 10 Khz. The radio hams wishing to make experiments on this frequency are required to make the statement preliminary to the Institute either by mail or with the address email ram-fr@ibpt.be. This decision between in force at the date of its publication." 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe Sent: 20 November 2009 15:00 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: something completely different Dear all, completely off topic but maybe of some interest: With immediate start all Belgian radioamateurs holder of a "full licence" have access to 69.950MHz (+/- 5kHz) with 10W EIRP on NIB. BIPT (our Ofcom / FCC) has to be informed prior to the first activity. See http://www.bipt.be/ShowDoc.aspx?objectID=3160&lang=nl (for those who can read Dutch or French) 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB013-ab34af187b34; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:55:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB031-ab34af187b34; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:55:01 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N5gJ7-00066Z-QJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:53:53 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N5gJ7-00066Q-Bp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:53:53 +0000 Received: from gv-out-0910.google.com ([216.239.58.187]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N5gJ4-0004TX-LN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:53:53 +0000 Received: by gv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c6so942103gvd.38 for ; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 05:53:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=MaKtPO1OvyzsuXaHMPXGqYP+F/rKCkR/yACPlLnDDl4=; b=dQFBsZ6QSQ5rikBk+aTiZBpDziEQf7yAYqTbLKkkbEXuXx7rGF9caR63fbl4BjZb8r iY6Cnbj2gYh9qwcwLyQ9PEwbXI/xlAs2UxYp4nmIyRdleINr+JMoQtSoPeTIwy4c2r7A KwhsJFyKo5m6996z5l30llHtccYSGCxL/6FsM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=x3XBYhXvPsb1KuxcIGErSXWaAWMPtdFTroyahonsKZaK4cleyEUUZnmXbDXSBk4oR2 PkssAagX4WUeEwqg2AqssWrBxzl2cyXsZAWXzJT+C+wKC1tRrzcFrHTMy94xkRWhhx7z 3EFmzIbBVqQ+fvoMBrrTi7PMrTdQcELaWq4/A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.144.97 with SMTP id n33mr162203hba.183.1257342828797; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 05:53:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:53:48 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, ukmicrowaves@yahoogroups.com DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: "Poisson, Shannon, and the Radio Amateur" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f27b56abdf4c04778bf00a X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d287.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001485f27b56abdf4c04778bf00a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm trying to get hold of a copy of this paper from 50 years ago. Does anyone have a scanned in version? The only web reference I managed to find pointed to a site ( http://tinyurl.com/d5bdo ) that no longer works. Costas J.P.; "Poisson, Shannon, and the Radio Amateur" Proc. IRE, vol 47, pp. 2058-2068, Dec 1959. Tnx in advance... Andy www.g4jnt.com this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny state --001485f27b56abdf4c04778bf00a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm trying to get hold of a copy of this paper from 50 years ago.= =A0
Does anyone have a scanned in version?
The only web reference I managed to find pointed to a site
( http://tinyurl.com/d5bdo= =A0)=A0 that=A0no longer works.
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Costas J.P.;
"Poisson, Shannon, and the Radio Amateur"
Proc. IRE,=A0=A0 vol 47, pp. 2058-2068, Dec 1959.
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Tnx in advance...
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Andy
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this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny st= ate
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--001485f27b56abdf4c04778bf00a-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC041-b384aee108e212; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:50:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC084-b384aee108e212; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:49:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N4jEE-0002ng-C2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:48:54 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N4jED-0002nX-Qc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:48:53 +0000 Received: from mout1.freenet.de ([195.4.92.91]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N4jEB-0001fZ-TJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:48:53 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.22] (helo=12.mx.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #92) id 1N4jEA-0002CQ-VP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 23:48:50 +0100 Received: from w21d3.w.pppool.de ([89.58.33.211]:4095 helo=2a2d7ed321c6425) by 12.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #94) id 1N4jEA-000063-DK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 23:48:50 +0100 From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" To: References: <276313556.1257112269.46863176.15766@mcgi72.rambler.ru> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 23:48:49 +0100 Message-ID: <70F65CEE64DC461BB6E4E47F11B772C9@2a2d7ed321c6425> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <276313556.1257112269.46863176.15766@mcgi72.rambler.ru> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcpbPejHekqtz6CUQkWtkB2SPSiM8wABsw7Q X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: MF_Report SM6BGP Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0046_01CA5B4D.DC4D66F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01CA5B4D.DC4D66F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Gunnar, LF! Please find attached a screenshot of your QRSS3-signal in JN59LN; vy 73 de Gerhard // DK6NI ====== ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01CA5B4D.DC4D66F0 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="SM6BGP.jpg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="SM6BGP.jpg" /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQEAYABgAAD/2wBDAA0JCgsKCA0LCgsODg0PEyAVExISEyccHhcgLikx MC4pLSwzOko+MzZGNywtQFdBRkxOUlNSMj5aYVpQYEpRUk//2wBDAQ4ODhMREyYVFSZPNS01 T09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT0//wAAR CAAuAWEDASIAAhEBAxEB/8QAHwAAAQUBAQEBAQEAAAAAAAAAAAECAwQFBgcICQoL/8QAtRAA AgEDAwIEAwUFBAQAAAF9AQIDAAQRBRIhMUEGE1FhByJxFDKBkaEII0KxwRVS0fAkM2JyggkK FhcYGRolJicoKSo0NTY3ODk6Q0RFRkdISUpTVFVWV1hZWmNkZWZnaGlqc3R1dnd4eXqDhIWG h4iJipKTlJWWl5iZmqKjpKWmp6ipqrKztLW2t7i5usLDxMXGx8jJytLT1NXW19jZ2uHi4+Tl 5ufo6erx8vP09fb3+Pn6/8QAHwEAAwEBAQEBAQEBAQAAAAAAAAECAwQFBgcICQoL/8QAtREA AgECBAQDBAcFBAQAAQJ3AAECAxEEBSExBhJBUQdhcRMiMoEIFEKRobHBCSMzUvAVYnLRChYk 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4.14) id 1NA5tY-00073t-Tz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:01:45 +0000 Received: from mailout1.go2.pl ([193.17.41.11]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA5tT-00014Y-6S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:01:41 +0000 Received: from mailout1.go2.pl (unknown [10.0.0.103]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C3015D524C for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:01:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from unknown (unknown [10.0.0.142]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:01:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from 58-178-124-188.rev.pro-internet.pl [188.124.178.58] by poczta.o2.pl with ESMTP id SrhnGK; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:01:38 +0100 Message-ID: <002801ca66e6$d72a5f30$3ab27cbc@niurhaxf0xcqlj> From: "Marcin" To: References: <1A3407D90B10110D0521E@kabelmail.de> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:01:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-O2-Trust: 2, 63 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF:SP2KDS Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Uwe, LF Very thank for raport. -- Vy 73! Marcin SQ2BXI Hi Marcin, hi Roman, strong signs in JO43SV. pse see attechment. regards Uwe/dj8wx -------- Kabel E-Mail Reply --------------- From: rw3adb@rambler.ru To : rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: 15.11.2009 23:22:16 Hi Marcin, LF! Poor trace 137.706.0 into mode-10 into my location today http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/16nov2009_SP2KDS/135.58W_10_00035.jpg 73! -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md08.mx.aol.com (rly-md08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.146]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMD103-91e4b110a6516e; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 06:33:10 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD086-91e4b110a6516e; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 06:32:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NELWw-0003zX-Hy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:31:58 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NELWv-0003zO-Mo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:31:57 +0000 Received: from qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.64]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NELWt-0006iQ-Ch for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:31:57 +0000 Received: from OMTA17.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.89]) by QMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id AbW21d0021vXlb857bXppZ; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:31:49 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([76.23.233.102]) by OMTA17.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id AbhA1d00B2DDHkk3dbhAd9; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:41:10 +0000 Message-ID: <001401ca701e$5f8d3560$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AA67@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 06:31:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Re: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Stefan Welcome to the reflector! What will be your hours of operation? Will be happy to have a look from this side of the pond. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Schäfer" To: Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 5:36 AM Subject: LF: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz Dear Lowfers, This is my first mail to the reflector and so i want to say hello to all :-) It´s nice to be able to participate now here although my activity will stay on the band mostly ;-) If there will be no weather problems this evening I will agn be qrv on 137 in CW (abt 136,8) and/or QRSS3. Since abt 3 weeks I am qrv again. Since I live in a city I have no possibilities to be on LF, even not in RXing (QRM)... Therefore and cause I like to be in the nature I am now qrv in /p. I use a kite antenna, 100m up (!). This should have a radiation resistance of 0,83 Ohms. My overall resistance is abt 30...55 Ohms, depending on the ground a achieve. So you can imagine abt the ERP. I have a 1KW class E PA that I use with limited power. But The ERP easily reaches the 1W ERP limit, as one can imagine.. My RX is still poor but I am working on a receiving loop. Now, I use the TX ant for receiving that causes some problems ;-) It would be nice to get some QSOs or even RX-RPRTs tonight. Until now I got 2 QSOs in each activity ;-) Best regards, Stefan / DK7FC From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de05.mx.aol.com (rly-de05.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.141]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE023-4d44af67df423a; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:15:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE051-4d44af67df423a; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:14:45 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N72uA-0004cG-25 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:13:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N72u9-0004c7-Fu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:13:45 +0000 Received: from outbound03.telus.net ([199.185.220.222]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N72t9-00073i-JK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:12:44 +0000 Received: from edtnaa02.telusplanet.net ([75.157.140.241]) by priv-edtnes29.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091108081339.VAPJ20472.priv-edtnes29.telusplanet.net@edtnaa02.telusplanet.net> for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 01:13:39 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.67] (d75-157-140-241.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.140.241]) by edtnaa02.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id D0A6A2F02B8F894C for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 01:13:39 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4AF67DB3.1020204@telus.net> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:13:39 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: DCF39 strong on west coast. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi All DCF39 has been audible here in VE7 land the last couple of nights, first time ever to hear it for me. Anyone up to putting on a beacon from EU in the NA waterhole for EU sunrise tomorrow? Grabber: http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/ 73 Scott VE7TIL CN89dk From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md05.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMD053-8f34b0da6ab2de; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:50:43 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD033-8f34b0da6ab2de; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:50:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDPjv-00006E-1K for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:49:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDPju-000065-Ca for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:49:30 +0000 Received: from smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com ([195.200.78.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDPjt-0004Il-Q9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:49:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 30833 invoked by uid 507); 25 Nov 2009 22:49:04 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO JR) (john.rabson@numeo.fr@217.67.155.178) by smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 2009 22:49:04 +0100 Message-ID: <200911252249180564.01447660@smtp2.numeo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:49:18 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: TEST OH1?? on about 137680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 At 2140z. John Rabson F5VLF 58800 Cervon France JN17vg From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME101-99d4b0afd2519c; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:22:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME021-99d4b0afd2519c; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:22:47 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCgLg-0002O8-Mg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:21:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCgLg-0002Nz-6f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:21:28 +0000 Received: from smtp815.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.244]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCgLf-0005R4-50 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:21:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 32369 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2009 21:21:21 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:Importance:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To; b=SqXesu/Svyl20L8A+AdQ8enDrXEvjLihwK1VHNEGpe7YurAhaNrK6pi7nqmKN0Q/rsJsOFWVvsGxCwJnEOl1CxSce0l3fPAGCzIcps+fGH2diLDM6QDF0AwwTScrDGXrR1O94TvpYR2scGelOsPZJYmQzv/a0kPemBuiFMBesD0= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@86.132.156.241 with login) by smtp815.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Nov 2009 21:21:21 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: JSvqNSWswBBXc9Mk_Vd71RtGz2bViJtuZMADdmi78eLqBj_R7.fL X-YMail-OSG: C6ziRnIVM1lCfhzHcRbbCj1VXrtUiOu50Qle691fbThvdcp8B3RVE2BraR1.DVX.6CotMjZBKJ3psOB5dDb5aP_e47KYj4f.9G0c0dpDWYW8WPJgH_DoB3hkrW11bXnS0v3EuOj4aoJAoHi_JfRqlexMasEKAT5IeLKoOboKHugbT6dlGalVQfh_iXvvK3zkDTXQy3TF14V3wb4uzlmBfNwsYscA6DhcKNDSWRK.VEjDZz8NSU0_GvUw2VsQ95gK3TX57SVnhh.EA7H0KhaxItxoELVV6CNMqdKZRCHRNmrSa05wVNOz28vtCcLJ3ZfXbxz2f6c3yMeSGtk_wB8VjyPc3uUrmQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:21:37 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: <20091123085404.D174231E704@smtps01.kuleuven.be> X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: SAIT "MT 430 B" 500kHz transmitter Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Rik, there is a picture of one installed in the radio room of the "AEGIS ATHENIC" here:- http://iancoombe.tripod.com/id21.html (Scroll down until you get to it...looks nice but BIG) and a short description (in French) here:- http://roc.forumactif.com/forum-1-f1/console-sait-type-f-5-a-t19.htm " Remarques : Les emetteurs < MT 430B > et < ET 430B > etait identiques sauf une prise de sortie d'antenne a l'arriere modifie et que l'emetteur de secours etait alimente directement par les batteries de la station radio. Les emetteurs fonctionnait sur les frequences suivantes : 410, 425, 454, 468, 480, 500 et 512 KHz en radiotelegraphie uniquement. Les emetteurs avait un amplificateur de sortie entierement transistorises et donc pouvait emettre directement a la difference des emetteurs a lampes qui requiere un temps de chauffage. Les emetteurs < MT 430 A > et < ET 430 A > avaient une puissance de sortie de 400 Watts." I couldn't find much else! 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe Sent: 23 November 2009 08:54 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: SAIT "MT 430 B" 500kHz transmitter Dear all, I have been offered a SAIT "MT 430 B" 500kHz marine transmitter. Google revealed little, just that it is a "main ship transmitter". Any information (modes, output power etc...) or experience reports with this rig is welcome. 73, Rik ON7YD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (rly-mg07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.113]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMG101-a254b13cc2b1d; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:44:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG077-a254b13cc2b1d; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:44:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NF6X5-00070K-Ih for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:43:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NF6X5-00070B-3y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:43:15 +0000 Received: from mx30.mail.ru ([94.100.176.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NF6X2-0001wa-HR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:43:15 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=51250 helo=EFREMOV) by mx30.mail.ru with asmtp id 1NF6Wv-000FYf-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:43:06 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <001c01ca71c3$04f2c1a0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: References: <3FCC9C19DE674B15A385181E7EFC37C1@Black> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:41:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Grabber improvements Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Thanks, Markus! One question.. It is possible to increase quality *.jpg? The difference with an old format *.png is too appreciable. 73 Andrey Dear LF Group, my LF colour-DF grabber has recently become five years old, and I felt it could do with a little refurbishment. It now updates more frequently, the fullband window scrolls slightly faster and shows a wider QRSS strip. I hope you may find this useful. The URL is still the same http://freenet-homepage.de/df6nm/Grabber.htm , and there is a mirror at http://www.alice-dsl.net/df6nm/grabber/Grabber.htm . 73 de Markus, DF6NM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc07.mx.aol.com (rly-mc07.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.91]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC024-d834b0aaa34b; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:29:17 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC073-d834b0aaa34b; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:28:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCapi-00019u-P0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:28:06 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCapi-00019j-5T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:28:06 +0000 Received: from cpsmtpm-eml103.kpnxchange.com ([195.121.3.7]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCapg-00037R-Mo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:28:06 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 ([81.204.139.159]) by CPSMTPM-EML103.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.0.6001.18000); Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:27:59 +0100 Message-ID: <28BD3D12FF99494FBD0FD85FE5EBE442@ns94d01ae4d850> From: "henny van elst" To: "blacksheep" Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:27:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Nov 2009 15:27:59.0153 (UTC) FILETIME=[89AE4210:01CA6C51] X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: : XES 23-11.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01CA6C59.E17809B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01CA6C59.E17809B0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_003C_01CA6C59.E17809B0" ------=_NextPart_001_003C_01CA6C59.E17809B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello LF capture XES Henny pa3cpm best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden ver= zonden: XES 23-11.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virus= sen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe.= Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt wete= n hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. ------=_NextPart_001_003C_01CA6C59.E17809B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Some one on 137.7 qrs3 good audible sig but just got the end V = K pse listen on 137.0 for cw g3kev de mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01CA69F6.D20402F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_001C_01CA69F6.D20402F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME072-9bf4b0156a71fa; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:42:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME063-9bf4b0156a71fa; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:42:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA1oH-0005dY-8G for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:40:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA1oG-0005dP-Rn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:40:00 +0000 Received: from mail-yx0-f203.google.com ([209.85.210.203]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA1oG-0000Mi-0b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:40:00 +0000 Received: by yxe41 with SMTP id 41so12801902yxe.30 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:39:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=mM9u+1zNXgplcftQCn6g9Jv8OOpvbm/0u1Yeh3dFpz4=; b=ZVKw5aoD3dt41/GMWA9u+qVGqEzI7EzK0CdpxfSY5stbe/7ZxNd3FooCegwdjUi8AZ odcjaZS0gggWSU1C7/4UQKLXK5gcAiXIihiqdB67xADlx8HaR3XXThzrhI2DsoQ3su7K qfjIkMaSKvwMkWBmW3W9TyjC19oG87KzQl8hk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fAZrXJIzfZ83giG72zmJPC25NrjZqcH0Fz9YdTYq5u0e5OJ72qcuHHFiA39blvUmg9 j+3+bm3Tbmmi30hQTO9lB12CUNWqEdsrbbqFbGs5SidUuO3Zw5oHO36tHRyOvYRWsyYe /sHUx0+DbIIRwYcKNfa4nU1B9AJXMvQ9LwMGU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.127.6 with SMTP id z6mr7259516ybc.145.1258378787694; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:39:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <763106576.1258362656.45967800.29836@mcgi65.rambler.ru> References: <1043378010.1258326083.160784844.95853@mcgi39.rambler.ru> <57a24ca70911151614q7185951ud60c7e913ad36978@mail.gmail.com> <763106576.1258362656.45967800.29836@mcgi65.rambler.ru> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:39:47 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70911160539m21865aa5kad342cea9f09995c@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Who is it? 507.300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m244.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Roman, WE2XGR/6 is on 507.300 kHz, when he is beaconing he transmits approximately 8 wpm cw (no QRSS). --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 4:10 AM, Roman RW3ADB wrote: > Hi Warren! > TNX for info! > I tried to copy a trace up to mode-30, but nothing into my location. > Will be trying to do agn! > Do know what is his real freq? > > * Warren Ziegler [Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:14:28 -0500]: >> >> Roman, >> >> =A0 That is Bob WE2XGR/6 (W2ZM) running 200W ERP frrom Rochester,NY >> >> >> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Roman RW3ADB > > wrote: >> >> > >> > Hi LF! >> > What is a signal we can see around 507.300 kHz onto G4WGT grabber > > now? >> >> > Who is it? >> > Too many times I can see a CW-like trace on that freq every night. >> > Between 507.3 and 507.4 are visible now. >> > >> > -- >> > Roman RW3ADB. >> > >> > >> > > > > > -- > Roman RW3ADB. > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db04.mx.aol.com (rly-db04.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.79]) by air-db02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB021-abc4b00684837e; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:45:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB042-abc4b00684837e; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:44:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9lx7-0001bz-A6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:44:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9lx6-0001bq-UU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:44:04 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9lx6-000369-9H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:44:04 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.6] (opc1.twatt.home [192.168.1.6]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 265273B512 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:44:03 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4B006812.7010101@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:44:02 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1043CB7D895D4161B1C87CDD140332A2@AGB> <0CADF4DD71FD43A2A8384463754F6344@AGB> <4B005411.4010506@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <1C14999758D149228277CBBC2446F1D7@AGB> In-Reply-To: <1C14999758D149228277CBBC2446F1D7@AGB> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Running mW wspr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) G 10dB might be a bit too much, your previous decodes were around -25/-28dB here. Perhaps at some peaks of QSB, later in the night we might still strike lucky. Am considering knocking up a transverter for 500kHz and replacing the MF ATU out at the feedpoint (currently have an HF auto-atu there) to allow me to radiate some signals on 500 again. Cheers, John Graham wrote: > 2334 45 mW drive to the antenna .. slight problem zeroing the > meter as there is 60 uW of energy coming back in from the atu .... > so thats about -10 dB down on the previous level > > G .. > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "John P-G" > Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 7:18 PM > To: > Subject: Re: LF: Running mW wspr > >> >> >> >> Graham wrote: >> >>> >>> Crazy system ..... spot just in from John ! >> >> >> I thought your mW signal was meant to be a challenge, but of course >> Roger's already discovered that WSPR will decode signals that you >> can't hear, and are often so weak on a waterfall that QRSS3 would be a >> struggle (despite what someone here repeatedly fails to comprehend) >> >> Can you go any lower? >> >> John >> GM4SLV >> >> > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD054-90d4b06bc0536f; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:56:10 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD065-90d4b06bc0536f; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:55:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBVlp-00078N-I7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:51:37 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBVln-00078E-LH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:51:36 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBVlh-0002Dj-SD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:51:32 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEF3551C011 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:51:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from PC_van_Rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-106.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.106]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD335F3862 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:51:19 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:51:24 +0100 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: References: <20091120150008.8098FF3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091120155119.AD335F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: something completely different Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dave, in fact it is one frequency that can be used, with max. 10kHz bandwidth, thus 69.950 +/- 0.005 MHz. But if you put an USB TX on 69.950 and "key" it with a 2kHz tone you have CW on 69.952 ... etc. 73, Rik At 16:35 20/11/2009, you wrote: >That's interesting. > >It's quite a narrow band....possibilites for the usual narrow-band modes... >CW/PSK/WSPR/QRSS/DFCW? > >Babelfish translation below:- > > >"The Council of the IBPT, pursuant to article 13 of the law of June 13, 2005 >relating to the electronic communications, decides to authorize the holders >of a radio ham licence(HAREC) to use frequency 69.950 MHz on secondary >basis, with a power of 10 W EIRP and a maximum bandwidth of 10 Khz. The >radio hams wishing to make experiments on this frequency are required to >make the statement preliminary to the Institute either by mail or with the >address email ram-fr@ibpt.be. This decision between in force at the date of >its publication." > >73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe >Sent: 20 November 2009 15:00 >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >Subject: LF: something completely different > > >Dear all, > >completely off topic but maybe of some interest: >With immediate start all Belgian radioamateurs holder of a "full >licence" have access to 69.950MHz (+/- 5kHz) with 10W EIRP on NIB. >BIPT (our Ofcom / FCC) has to be informed prior to the first activity. >See http://www.bipt.be/ShowDoc.aspx?objectID=3160&lang=nl (for those >who can read Dutch or French) > >73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD091-9034b007e7628a; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:19:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD053-9034b007e7628a; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:19:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9nQh-0002cH-Ft for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:18:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9nQh-0002c8-5C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:18:43 +0000 Received: from mcgi76.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.25]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9nQg-0003aR-57 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:18:43 +0000 Received: from mcgi76.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi76.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A5C01702C for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:18:36 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [91.77.88.87] by mcgi76.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:18:31 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:18:31 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <118539074.1258323511.44388760.23420@mcgi76.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF:SP2KDS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Marcin, LF! Poor trace 137.706.0 into mode-10 into my location today http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/16nov2009_SP2KDS/135.58W_10_00035.jpg 73! -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db02.mx.aol.com (rly-db02.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.77]) by air-db01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB012-ab04afaaec711d; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:32:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB026-ab04afaaec711d; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:32:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8CLa-000260-OF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:30:50 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8CLa-00025r-1U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:30:50 +0000 Received: from smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.12]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8CLX-00020t-Cu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:30:49 +0000 Received: from bb-87-82-24-206.ukonline.co.uk ([87.82.24.206] helo=[192.168.0.3]) by smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N8CLW-000Boz-Iq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:30:46 +0000 Message-ID: <4AFAAE9C.1070304@ukonline.co.uk> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:31:24 +0000 From: Peter Dodd User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001101ca621e$dcdc3380$96949a80$@princeton.edu> <20091110192309.4v8agotbs0k0gocs@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <004a01ca6249$d91531e0$8b3f95a0$@princeton.edu> <20091110222951.cr4qtrqagcwcowok@webmail6.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20091110222951.cr4qtrqagcwcowok@webmail6.kuleuven.be> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Ferrite characteristics Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Does anyone know of a method of measuring the characteristics (permeability) of ferrite cores? I have a box of these most without any identification although I do have T200, 68-2T and T68-2s whose characteristics are known. It occurs to me that you can make a tuned circuit and measure resonance with a GDO when a ferrite core is inserted into the inductance. A graph could be made of the different resonances with different cores, to extrapolate the unknowns. However I think that ferrite bulk might be a problem. For example I guess the red T cores use the same material but would there be a difference between the T200 and the T68? I have lots of material about ferrites in general - I just want to know what I have in my junk box. I am not interested in exact measurements, I just want to know if a core is suitable for a specific job. Regards Peter, G3LDO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (rly-ma06.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.50]) by air-ma10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA103-8b14b05ef3e5; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:22:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA063-8b14b05ef3e5; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:22:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBIB8-00047K-U7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:20:50 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBIB8-00047B-3r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:20:50 +0000 Received: from outbound03.telus.net ([199.185.220.222]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBIB5-0005uD-Cs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:20:50 +0000 Received: from edtnaa02.telusplanet.net ([75.157.140.241]) by priv-edtnes29.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091120011544.GTJR20472.priv-edtnes29.telusplanet.net@edtnaa02.telusplanet.net> for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:15:44 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.67] (d75-157-140-241.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.140.241]) by edtnaa02.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 7DAAA3C3239E2867 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:15:44 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4B05EDBF.6090006@telus.net> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:15:43 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 'Sporadic incidents' Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi All Industry Canada has ruled... See the 600m Buttulator for the latest emission... Good day eh? Scott VE7TIL CN89dk http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de07.mx.aol.com (rly-de07.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.143]) by air-de07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE074-4ee4af89199367; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:03:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE077-4ee4af89199367; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:03:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7cJG-0004wn-J6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:02:02 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7cJG-0004we-6L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:02:02 +0000 Received: from mail-yx0-f203.google.com ([209.85.210.203]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7cIO-0002Jo-Sg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:01:09 +0000 Received: by yxe41 with SMTP id 41so9217719yxe.30 for ; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:01:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pQiTrI+R8GkNAHR+RTPzr2NR9XTtIWwNIi+PLPjm1s4=; b=LA5LmXcaw5hVjMPC8H8A9NumrOyhF8ITftQCupuS872LHB93g59cCdrErvlOF2FXOE CCkI5daPgks/J+DLdDiJB1pRNT18sh9SOy9jqm1M3PcLzLRWySylC8/t2z9fsGzOsZUp eUgh28fPvKCzug5EpIU3OoZTj/3mHHS3R+dUQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=REAxomAb/5bqztZm/j9ID4PL4UrE61djlNp6a07w+X8oOiWNJBsqFMwKyjMHnKYEEy OKf2m8f28FnsuvSwOwFfNbpNabxDL1uorIqq7hBRf75fzOcMu4NpOSGkUUH4xLVJvkEJ Pd8pimmv+h5Nml4aHxCFRb9Zu+VsYAhptLyGQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.70.36 with SMTP id s36mr4058228yba.114.1257804113955; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:01:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <000001ca6186$436317c0$0900a8c0@lark> References: <200911091000250405.1609D0BF@smtp2.numeo.fr> <000001ca6186$436317c0$0900a8c0@lark> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:01:53 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70911091401t3e1cdfdcxa72724a21abf1cd5@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Fwd: The death of Loran -again? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m262.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Alan, See: http://www.gpsworld.com/gnss-system/news/administration-ax-falls-pnt-backup-loran-c-9087 and http://pnt.gov/policy/legislation/bills.shtml#loran -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Alan Melia wrote: > Hi John, that URL you copied from Rob doesnt work for me. There is othing on > the Megapulse site of the USCG sire about it closing, the budget is not cut > it is reduced and I guess USCG have to decide how best to spend it. I dont > expect it to affect the French who being,.... well, French ?..... will > continue to go their own way!! > > Do you have 1pps GPS capability?? eke "Clicklock" as there is an interesting > project that may come up. Only resures a sound card and an AM receiver and a > GPS 1pps > > Best Wishes to you and Rosie > Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John RABSON" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 9:00 AM > Subject: LF: Fwd: The death of Loran -again? > > >> >> Received from Rob Gill : >> >> > >> >Possibly more likely this time? >> > >> >Questex link: >> >http://www.gpsworld.com/node/9087Loran >> > >> >Rob >> >> F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC092-b314afb4fd4272; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:59:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC075-b314afb4fd4272; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:59:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8N4x-000595-Vc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:58:23 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8N4x-00058w-Gw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:58:23 +0000 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8N4H-0001X7-Fn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:57:42 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.4]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091111235811.USDZ17277.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:58:11 +0000 Received: from [86.27.93.99] (helo=jimdesk) by know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8N4l-0007Ca-9O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:58:11 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: References: <4AFB477C.5090604@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <001501ca6326$ff28c710$0617aac0@jimdesk> <00f301ca6329$8ba907c0$0900a8c0@lark> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:58:11 -0000 Message-ID: <001901ca632a$d3356ab0$0617aac0@jimdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <00f301ca6329$8ba907c0$0900a8c0@lark> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcpjKajIZ9/xHhU9Ra+lne/FBfoQjgAAHNpw X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=nfSI54I6a24A:10 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=8RloEfZUAAAA:8 a=AjGhAieJ-_aap6J-kAoA:9 a=sYWwyND2sMjOYMK4ToYA:7 a=VaCxxJssEranf6et8POMgCpGPFIA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=O58u2wXj750A:10 a=ipRgxC41WzTWyCcK:21 a=nHxBIGmvrgtdk2HD:21 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 The soundcard leads are via an opto-isolator interface and the leads from the interface to laptop are wound on ferrite cores, approx 8 turns each for tx and rx. I will check the mains psu for the dell d610 laptop as that could be introducing hum or picking up rf from the tx (IC-735). It might need ferrites on the leads to and from the SMPSU I've just turned "the wick" down on the tx/rx inputs and also the rf gain on ic 735 till the needle just shifted in case it was being over-driven so I'll see how that works. Not a prob when I was QRPpp but as sigs improve with dark nights I'd noticed it too Thanks to John and others for heads up and suggestions With best regards Jim Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia Sent: 11 November 2009 23:49 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: RE: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! Hi Jim what kind of PC are you using. If a desktop are to sure it has the mains safety earth connected.....I have come across this problem before some 3 connecter IEC moulded leads with only two wires in them!! If a laptop then unless you use a radio earth that may all be floating. Sometimes it is necessary to use an tranformer on the audio leads to and from the PC to gain isolation from the hum and noise. I use old telephone hybrid transformers 600ohm to 600 ohm ferrite cored. Best Wishes Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Cowburn" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 11:30 PM Subject: LF: RE: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! > Hi John > > I'll have a look see. I've noticed on strong sigs from me (few and far > between!) I get multiple decodes +50 and -50. I'm not aware of any obvious > mains hum if I monitor my outgoing sigs and all leads are wound on ferrite > cores, but clearly something is amiss. > > I shall look into it and see what I can find > > Cheers for the heads up > > With best regards > > > Jim > > > Dr. James Cowburn > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John P-G > Sent: 11 November 2009 23:24 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! > > Jim. LF > > It looks like G7NKS has a 50/100Hz problem on the audio - both in TX and > RX directions - there are up to 3 decodes by Jim of a single station (eg > G3YXM), spaced by 50 & 100Hz and I see also that M0BMU is also reporting > multiple decodes of G7NKS with the same 50/100Hz spacing. > > Jim, have you some mains hum affecting the audio in/out of the PC? > > Cheers, > > John > GM4SLV > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me04.mx.aol.com (rly-me04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.38]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME054-9ad4af74e00dd; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:02:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME041-9ad4af74e00dd; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:02:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7GlM-0001dN-4i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:01:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7GlL-0001dE-Nw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:01:35 +0000 Received: from smtp826.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.13.123]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7GkP-0002ww-Di for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:00:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 29949 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2009 22:47:57 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=srD2SwAOp89AQN6sfVJbJ+cmfEmc2K+nb5ljuveHkvP1xS2K/ge9kWfdBXHdruMSk3sLfzAsHl7qWtUgXR8qIIB3tzu19iWzGUSKcVyNgQdSKzwUXjg81jX/kIrN8zRyDbPTCcDZZfqYPy6VLq/OKBSD0Rdtb4hFadBAF8HVO0I= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@213.122.47.26 with login) by smtp826.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 2009 22:47:56 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: KHdpK2OswBBXlm4uxknbEiS4uYdJoGknHN90u4K8__lTafnafZg- X-YMail-OSG: 8x0kdh0VM1mbYeFDChR6BuvtT33cNXUkF25tFph6rQ2yVfqL.YYAcyMUGoEIeMalZhBiM0UBVsMIUfTk8IrBsvOerWBFgMEYm37sPJRJ6asHOOfUv0e676F1.l2vok4OH_Vg4x7F2dRHp5lh72urVM1DrS6I0XE6GAPviMwJ.ZHymsxL6nBC7CgAdSr3Eh2fIJ69TjDVVFjUez0ebJjebqW7c0WZCq8BnFa4UkcY59bvmU2AcxIBMfS2sFSk.bjmGmSwhnZXng.aJ18Sxrp8qtQJmXIa8.QmkmDK4DcsHaxHXNxOR.U.KMcBa8LiFx_HOisr8M6Nxp3.XjS1674hM3gFXQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <009601ca60c5$84c5f4b0$0900a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <001b01ca6086$cd0966b0$0617aac0@jimdesk> <004101ca60ab$ef362e60$0900a8c0@lark> <4AF7224D.4010707@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:25:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Losses due to ant in tree? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Yeah well in your case,John, the nearest tree is on the Mainland :-)) Best Wishes Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "John P-G" To: Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 7:55 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Losses due to ant in tree? > > > Alan Melia wrote: > > May thumbnail approack says put a vertical at least > > as far away from trees, <...> as it is high. Not aways easy! > > > > > Depends where you live :-) > > http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/DCP_2235.JPG > > John > GM4SLV > Treeless Shetland > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc09.mx.aol.com (rly-mc09.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.93]) by air-mc05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC051-d944b00a05d392; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:44:30 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC094-d944b00a05d392; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:44:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9pgY-0003TM-O1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:43:14 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9pgY-0003TD-4d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:43:14 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9pgW-0002lZ-P9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:43:14 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3433.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3EBFB7000083 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:43:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3433.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 327417000084 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:43:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.53.205]) by mwinf3433.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id B78507000083 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:43:02 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091116004302751.B78507000083@mwinf3433.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <4915D9CBCCFF4367AF40AAB2D0A2C327@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <6583950e.56d7c7cc.4b009b55.e3283@go2.pl In-Reply-To: <6583950e.56d7c7cc.4b009b55.e3283@go2.pl Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:42:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: G0NBD WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Many thanks Marcin 73 -G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 12:22 AM To: Subject: LF: G0NBD WSPR > > Dear Graham, LF > WSPR signal G0NBD: > 0004 -9 1.1 0.503844 0 G0NBD IO83 23 > 0010 -25 1.0 0.503842 0 G0NBD IO83 23 > 0018 -22 0.9 0.503842 0 G0NBD IO83 23 > 73! Marcin SQ2BXI > (SP2KDS Team) > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da09.mx.aol.com (rly-da09.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.83]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDA052-a8e4b0c3708302; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:42:17 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA096-a8e4b0c3708302; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:42:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ND1G5-0006t4-Ja for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:41:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ND1G5-0006sv-6A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:41:05 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ND1G4-0003Sj-59 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:41:05 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so6775641bwz.4 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:40:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=gmd5KLHoYMVlsBwaFXJneX4P40r3HShW2C43iwkZeG0=; b=HMPPEDqXDb+RlT/0MFN7bY1xuFNlSCUeNM3EzKRKDPDtd/Id9523g34y4YGs8EB1ws 80VM29YtgLHsrPGshQNreUFTBp9JTAWgnaaikyVO1yaAXbm97BSMrZR1AwxPRKu1CvUw Wh3jKpbiOSPW0rS5M8oACfCQwYFRJS7gKy4vk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=gLrunHbqRwumlbnQ4Ts/ewfHptVAw30r+2CS4Nk+vqY9Dit23UINw0s5mJofrjyjXB gv2hkh8Oh9XG55F1qDy6ZD7Dw/UU51k4Bev/CAIr+r/TngyoQQc+uzwbtpcVT4rZsm8v WA2gH05KgxRMs1ZhNB9NBphVhsluBRb8KJDOE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.26.134 with SMTP id e6mr3041150bkc.87.1259091657931; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:40:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:40:57 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911241140j230515e9kcbcaffd3911ccb82@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_10_20=0.945,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: IRF510 500kHz PA stability issues - advice please Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00032555b50a02bbd80479231f54 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m209.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --00032555b50a02bbd80479231f54 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've been using a single IRF510 FET PA stage on 500kHz and it produces around 6-7W of RF. But, when adjusting my antenna I've managed to damage several devices now. I think the stage is running somewhere towards class-E looking at the PA drain waveform on the scope and I believe either the stage is going unstable or it is running in a condition in which too much current (and heat) is taken and the device fails. Are there any simple "rules of thumb" or design/biasing/decoupling guidelines to ensure that my devices don't destroy themselves with a less than perfect load? Any simple advice would be appreciated. 73s Roger G3XBM -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --00032555b50a02bbd80479231f54 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've been using a single IRF510 FET PA stage on 500kHz and it produces= around 6-7W of RF. But, when adjusting my antenna I've managed to dam= age several devices now.=A0 I think the stage is running somewhere towards= class-E looking at the PA drain waveform on the scope and I believe eithe= r the stage is going unstable or it is running in a condition in which too= much current (and heat) is taken and the device fails.

Are there any simple "rules of thumb" or design/biasing/deco= upling guidelines to ensure that my devices don't destroy themselves= with a less than perfect load?

Any simple advice would be appreci= ated.

73s
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--00032555b50a02bbd80479231f54-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb09.mx.aol.com (rly-mb09.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.167]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB022-d274b07b6eb121; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:46:49 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB093-d274b07b6eb121; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:46:22 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBmWn-0003RM-6S for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:45:13 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBmWl-0003RD-Vt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:45:12 +0000 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBmWj-0007k6-8o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:45:11 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.1]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091121094003.SYKZ17277.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:40:03 +0000 Received: from [81.109.247.175] (helo=desktop) by know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBmRl-0006Rt-Sa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:40:03 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: References: <20091120141648.8WGQY.1557635.root@mp17> <007f01ca6a1b$34a0b8d0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <009a01ca6a22$07a90470$0517aac0@desktop> <9afca2640911201343q6330c05cxbc250a456fc61952@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:39:57 -0000 Message-ID: <000f01ca6a8e$97d80f20$0517aac0@desktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <9afca2640911201343q6330c05cxbc250a456fc61952@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcpqKp7dEg5x0wWJQRSiF9pg01idLwAYkEQg X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jX188lzWSCQA:10 a=8RloEfZUAAAA:8 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=nN7BH9HXAAAA:8 a=fnYqA7hvAAAA:8 a=j6Q1dnSHAAAA:8 a=GbdeLIPe6U4U5j_syv0A:9 a=5a5wPlvpv7jtFlUYscQA:7 a=Z24HcA_M4BtqXtMAM-68lCKOfXYA:4 a=O58u2wXj750A:10 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=muIvw5a9-cgA:10 a=gA6IeH5FQcgA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 a=yre12JMCcONAJUPy:21 a=Mfy-UuinzJnzaJtC:21 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=4EHlyYgopu4XDhHgo30A:9 a=80CKpWDzqLSgmUmwTtUA:7 a=jBQkSH3L9w9Uss9Spr0TWAxQoyQA:4 a=1OdKWuaQUqg08G2b:21 a=aKpl4JqWlNFO67uJ:21 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: RE: LF: WSPR a QSO mode not just beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01CA6A8E.97D80F20" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=EXCUSE_16,HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01CA6A8E.97D80F20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Roger/LF The discussion at the RSGB meeting noted the ARRL's position that essentially if two stations make WSPR reports with each other and this is confirmed by QSL or sme other approved method then there has been a two way exchange of call sign, report and other info e.g. locator and that qualifies as a QSO for DXCC purposes. As you can imagine this was a little contentious to say the least with a lot of head shaking and muttering under breath from portions of the audience and nodding and smiles from others. I for one am not an avid DXCC chaser but for my own view I consider my 2 way reports as QSOs. As Rik says the WSJT programme has a QSO mode in WSPR but I found it hard to set up and also you need to have someone listening for the transmission so for simplicity I stay with WSPR. I've downloaded WSPR2 but I think I am being a luddite as I prefer the older version! (Hence my steadfast avoidance of Vista and W7!) Drop me a note if you fancy a CW QSO sometime and also we can try WSPR on 136. Chris XIZ has kindly offered to help me with the loan of coils and varios for 136 so I can get on that band. We are going to try for a 6m/600m x-band CW QSO with his home brew 6m rig! With best regards Jim Dr. James Cowburn 26 Birch Close Broom Biggleswade Beds SG18 9NR T +44 (0) 1767 600522 M+44 (0) 7967 300152 E james.cowburn@virgin.net The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you must not read this message. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. Consequently, this email is not intended to be contractually binding. If you received this in error, please contact the sender, return the message as well as its attachments and delete the whole from any computer. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Roger Lapthorn Sent: 20 November 2009 21:43 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: WSPR a QSO mode not just beacon Now I am unclear what really constitutes a WSPR QSO. Does me getting a WSPR database report from XX3XXX and he getting on from me at much the same time on the same database constitute a QSO? Or does it have to be a "real" QSO a bit like JT6m? I agree with Rik that an HF contest exchange contains less (mutually useful) data than either of these. 73s Roger G3XBM 2009/11/20 James Cowburn Dear All, According to the ARRL, WSPR contacts, if verified as two way, will qualify towards DXCC awards as they consider these to be a QSO mode and not simply a beacon. As there is an exchange of callsign, locator and signal strength then that was deemed sufficient by the ARRL to qualify for DXCC and as a QSO in a data mode much like RTTY or PSK31 for example. This was discussed at the recent RSGB conference in a session on WSPR. With best regards Jim -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton Sent: 20 November 2009 19:54 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: WD2XES WSPR 136.0 Recently there has been an upsurge in wspr BEACON appliance operators and your suggested frequency area is not the place for them. The bottom end would keep Beacon acty out of the way. There would still be room for the odd EU qrs operator, can't say I have heard many in recent years. The freq area 137 - 138 k/cs is frequently occupied by Russian and other EU dxers for inter Country working using CW and QRS and 136.5 - 137 for local CW working. NA stns wishing to work EU would still use 137 - 138 on CW and QRS and not be clobbered by wspr carriers going ON/OFF. I hope you see the logic G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:16 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: WD2XES WSPR 136.0 > Thanks for the suggestion, but I doubt it will cause you any more interference than it has for the last 5 years. From our perspective, the lower end of the band has long been reserved for EU to NA operation. > > John, W1TAG > > ---- mal hamilton wrote: > > om I woud suggest you Beacon at the extreme bottom end of the band and not > > in the middle of the CW and QRS DX portion. > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01CA6A8E.97D80F20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Roger/LF

 

The discussion= at the RSGB meeting noted the ARRL’s position that essentially if two stations make WSPR= reports with each other and this is confirmed by QSL or sme other approved met= hod then there has been a two way exchange of call sign, report and other info= e.g. locator and that qualifies as a QSO for DXCC purposes.

 

As you can imag= ine this was a little contentious to say the least with a lot of head shaking and muttering= under breath from portions of the audience and nodding and smiles from other= s.

 

I for one am no= t an avid DXCC chaser but for my own view I consider my 2 way reports as QSOs.  =

 

As Rik says the= WSJT programme has a QSO mode in WSPR but I found it hard to set up and also you need to have= someone listening for the transmission so for simplicity I stay with WSPR.

 

I’ve down= loaded WSPR2 but I think I am being a luddite as I prefer the older version!   (Hence= my steadfast avoidance of Vista and W7= !)

 

Drop me a note= if you fancy a CW QSO sometime and also we can try WSPR on 136.   Chris XIZ has ki= ndly offered to help me with the loan of coils and varios for 136 so I can= get on that band.  We are going to try for a 6m/600m x-band CW QSO with= his home brew 6m rig! 

 

With best regards=

 

 

Jim

 

 

Dr. James Cowbu= rn

26 Birch Close<= o:p>

Broom

Biggleswade

Beds=

SG18 9NR

 

T +44= (0) 1767 600522

M+44= (0) 7967 300152

E james.cowburn@virgin.net

 

The information= transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or pri= vileged material. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notifi= ed that you must not read this message.
Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking= of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other= than the intended recipient is prohibited.  Consequently, this email is no= t intended to be contractually binding.
If you received this in error, please contact the sender, return the= message as well as its attachments and delete the whole from any computer.=

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org [mailto:owner-= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Roger Lapthorn
Sent: 20 November 2009= 21:43
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: WSPR= a QSO mode not just beacon

 

Now I am unclea= r what really constitutes a WSPR QSO. Does me getting a WSPR database report from XX= 3XXX and he getting on from me at much the same time on the same database const= itute a QSO? Or does it have to be a "real" QSO a bit like JT6m?
I agree with Rik that an HF contest exchange contains less (mutually= useful) data than either of these.

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/11/20 James Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.net>

Dear All,

According to the ARRL, WSPR contacts, if verified as two way, will qua= lify
towards DXCC awards as they consider these to be a QSO mode and not si= mply a
beacon.

As there is an exchange of callsign, locator and signal strength then= that
was deemed sufficient by the ARRL to qualify for DXCC and as a QSO in= a data
mode much like RTTY or PSK31 for example.

This was discussed at the recent RSGB conference in a session on WSPR.=

With best regards


Jim



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb= _lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rs= gb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton=
Sent: 20 November 2009 19:54
To: rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: Re: WD2XES WSPR 136.0

Recently there has been an upsurge in wspr BEACON appliance operators= and
your suggested frequency area is not the place for them. The bottom en= d
would keep Beacon acty out of the way. There would still be room for= the odd
EU qrs operator, can't say I have heard many in recent years. The freq= area
137 - 138 k/cs is frequently occupied by Russian and other EU dxers fo= r
inter Country working using CW and     QRS and 136.5 - 137= for local CW
working.
NA stns wishing to work EU would still use 137 - 138 on CW and  Q= RS and not
be clobbered by wspr carriers going ON/OFF.
I hope you see the logic
G3KEV

----- Original Message -----
From: <w1tag@charter.net&g= t;
To: <rsgb_lf_group@= blacksheep.org>
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: WD2XES WSPR 136.0


> Thanks for the suggestion, but I doubt it will cause you any more=
interference than it has for the last 5 years. From our perspective,= the
lower end of the band has long been reserved for EU to NA operation. >
> John, W1TAG
>
> ---- mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net= > wrote:
> > om I woud suggest you Beacon at the extreme bottom end of th= e band and
not
> > in the middle of the CW and QRS DX portion.
>
>





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------=_NextPart_000_0010_01CA6A8E.97D80F20-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD011-9054afa79c8ed; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:46:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD055-9054afa79c8ed; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:46:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N88of-0001bH-Sr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:44:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N88of-0001b8-6q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:44:37 +0000 Received: from smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com ([195.200.78.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N88nv-0003wi-92 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:43:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 31449 invoked by uid 507); 11 Nov 2009 09:44:19 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO JR) (john.rabson@numeo.fr@217.67.155.178) by smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com with SMTP; 11 Nov 2009 09:44:19 +0100 Message-ID: <200911110944190430.2047E6C6@smtp2.numeo.fr> In-Reply-To: <1642D8D498F44022BC9CAC72278574E8@HPt680a> References: <773621.85981.qm@web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <1642D8D498F44022BC9CAC72278574E8@HPt680a> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:44:19 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: CW and WSPR... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Gentlemen, Given the sterile nature of the current discussion, and taking into accoun= t the date, perhaps we should have an Armistice in this matter. John F5VLF/G3PAI From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (rly-ma02.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.46]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMA012-8924b0d76fe315; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:27:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA024-8924b0d76fe315; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:27:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDMYw-0006Mo-Ug for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:25:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDMYw-0006Mf-Hb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:25:58 +0000 Received: from smtp818.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.247]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDMYv-0003AF-K1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:25:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 2598 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2009 18:25:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=v6kugBf+d+Vuy76NEGtnU97S05/FhK6HlOz9PruKaPSn9IGKgaOCjgvzw315oymHLBZFtJ0b4PMkkjqasU88ST6Tu1/O9CftYFal35yyG4LbCD9WwtSI16qv7175wP96WJI900SLVYrHxhTt9MIU5jMbC5ZHf08flLWp7Eqll+Y= ; Received: from unknown (HELO IBM7FFA209F07C) (c.ashby435@86.169.134.234 with login) by smtp818.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 2009 18:25:51 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: 9STUSnaswBBSd6nO_2gAC20jmYlWRjmg8d5iYd8s.rl181aR6Sw- X-YMail-OSG: SPsg9DEVM1mIq_H.qdjib1wxSrwZL49vTnSlBt_orTrHWT3A0rl2q.iF72WXG_5PW5PCizBOzniOksOLd9LomEJXqhurk95tTR2vZOSlIzVoOu3fz2YSFc_jcxfT00t455mgsyWoKX2ejg_R0OWjWaI84xVcK8Fjj2Nc5XeWmG_ycV3deOA4CNLIGQnZ9dO.6_tjrCP2mg01eNPguiTPkFxqJ6n1DPco_Z1.dzRAIBwsk0i98cPy6YIQRopXXeFL X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "Chris" To: "RSGB LF Group" Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:25:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Who? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01CA6DFC.B90B1D60" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.3 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01CA6DFC.B90B1D60 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_000E_01CA6DFC.B90B1D60" ------=_NextPart_001_000E_01CA6DFC.B90B1D60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, Does anybody know who was sending 'Y' last evening just before midnigh= t UTC on approx. 137.778kHz, please? Thanks, Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, JO01MI. ------=_NextPart_001_000E_01CA6DFC.B90B1D60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi All,
Does anybody know who was sending 'Y'= last evening=20 just before midnight UTC on approx. 137.778kHz, please?
Thanks,
Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent,=20 JO01MI.
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Marcin SQ2BXI > (SP2KDS Team) > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (rly-mg04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.110]) by air-mg04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG041-a084b09098234e; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:51:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG042-a084b09098234e; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:51:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NC95C-0000vx-2v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:50:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NC95B-0000vn-OS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:50:13 +0000 Received: from smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com ([195.200.78.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NC95B-0002yw-6x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:50:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 28836 invoked by uid 507); 22 Nov 2009 10:50:01 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO JR) (john.rabson@numeo.fr@217.67.155.178) by smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com with SMTP; 22 Nov 2009 10:50:01 +0100 Message-ID: <200911221050020027.1ECEB010@smtp2.numeo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:50:02 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Hellschreiber? about 40Hz below ASB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 At 0948z. F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINME103-9c34b12bf4021a; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:37:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME067-9c34b12bf4021a; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:36:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEock-0002wO-6x for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:35:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEocj-0002wF-SP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:35:53 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.55]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEoci-0003wP-Kq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:35:53 +0000 Received: from edmwaa03.telusplanet.net ([75.157.153.207]) by priv-edmwes33.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091129183549.OLN2079.priv-edmwes33.telusplanet.net@edmwaa03.telusplanet.net> for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:35:49 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.67] (d75-157-153-207.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.153.207]) by edmwaa03.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 4C413054EFF16D4C for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:35:49 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4B12BF05.3040108@telus.net> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:35:49 +0000 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AA6E@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> In-Reply-To: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AA6E@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: LF Propagation literature? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Stefan See: http://www.qsl.net/dk2fi/lw/lfprop1.pdf 73 Scott VE7TIL CN89dk http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/ Stefan Sch=E4fer wrote: > Hello Lowfers,=20 > Is there any good literature in the web (web-site or pdf or book) about= the propagation on LF? Best would be, if it is created by a ham for the= hams! > > 73, Stefan/DK7FC > =20 > > > =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD102-9114af6b0a811b; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:51:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD071-9114af6b0a811b; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:51:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N76HZ-0005fH-AD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:50:09 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N76HY-0005f8-Lm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:50:08 +0000 Received: from out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.244]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N76HW-00045V-8s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:50:08 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArwEAL8+9kpOlLtr/2dsb2JhbACCIi6BaYlDBssJhD4E X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,703,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="212094688" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.187.107]) by out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 08 Nov 2009 11:49:53 +0000 Message-ID: <01da01ca6069$9859e060$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <019f01ca6061$34a80040$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <9afca2640911080333n583d3ec3r31f5b21e4d047248@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:49:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01D7_01CA6069.98362BC0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_01D7_01CA6069.98362BC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Why do you not use CW to explore LF propagation, this way you get an= immediate real time report, no need for database or computer aided de= vices. Your signal is always strong enought with me for a CW QSO. What is your problem with CW ? I do not usually report BEACON acty it seems pointless to me when the= station could engage in a realtime QSO. Mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Roger Lapthorn=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 11:33 AM Subject: Re: LF: WSPR Dear Mal, Personally I have found WSPR to be a most useful tool when exploring= LF propagation and station improvements. The most valuable part has= being able to go on the air and almost instantly get feedback (via th= e WSPR database) about quite subtle changes to my station. The change= to my antenna a couple of days ago was an example when the reports fr= om M0BMU and G7NKS immediately told me that a real step change improve= ment had been achieved.=20 Amateur radio is about experiments, new challenges etc. WSPR has all= owed me to try some simple, but valuable, experiments these last few= weeks on 500kHz and I am grateful for Joe Taylor for having provided= such a useful tool to do these with and for all the open minded and= kind amateurs here who have helped me on my way. 73s Roger G3XBM 2009/11/8 mal hamilton WSPR is like a LAZY MAN using a WALKING STICK !!!!!! G3KEV --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.55/2489 - Release Date: 11= /08/09 07:37:00 ------=_NextPart_000_01D7_01CA6069.98362BC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Why do you not use CW to explore=  LF=20 propagation, this way you get an immediate real time report, no= need for=20 database or computer aided devices. Your signal is always strong= enought=20 with me for a CW QSO.
What is your problem with CW ?=
I do not usually report BEACON acty= it seems=20 pointless to me when the station could engage in a realtime QSO.
Mal/g3kev
 
 
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Sent: Sunday, November 08, 20= 09 11:33=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: WSPR

Dear Mal,

Personally I have found WSPR to be= a=20 most useful tool when exploring LF propagation and station=20 improvements. The most valuable part has being able to go on the air= and=20 almost instantly get feedback (via the WSPR database) about quite su= btle=20 changes to my station. The change to my antenna a couple of days ago= was an=20 example when the reports from M0BMU and G7NKS immediately tol= d me that=20 a real step change improvement had been achieved.

Amateur ra= dio is=20 about experiments, new challenges etc. WSPR has allowed me to try so= me simple,=20 but valuable, experiments these last few weeks on 500kHz and I am gr= ateful for=20 Joe Taylor for having provided such a useful tool to do these with= and for all=20 the open minded and kind amateurs here who have helped me on my=20 way.

73s
Roger G3XBM





2009/11/8 mal hamilton <= g3kevmal@talktalk.net= >
WSPR is like a LAZY MAN usin= g a WALKING=20 STICK !!!!!!
G3KEV
 



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------=_NextPart_000_029B_01CA6536.28878590-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (rly-dg10.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.94]) by air-dg02.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDG024-5fc4b12cdee14; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:39:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG107-5fc4b12cdee14; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:39:28 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEpbJ-0003UR-Uy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:38:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEpbJ-0003UI-DX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:38:29 +0000 Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEpbI-0004w7-Bh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:38:29 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-2.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.2]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091129193322.BNZW27507.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-2.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:33:22 +0000 Received: from [81.109.251.184] (helo=desktop) by know-smtpout-2.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEpWM-0007SM-2Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:33:22 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: References: <010c01ca7116$59615290$0317aac0@desktop> <843259.12319.qm@web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:33:14 -0000 Message-ID: <012c01ca712a$cdc9a5b0$0317aac0@desktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcpxJej71QGDrTu9TeiPyQ9vjSuyKwABLVYg In-Reply-To: <843259.12319.qm@web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=W3tOLUehizD4qj6VhtReFuw5MKb8d+XqjIxlDsIazEA= c=1 sm=0 a=yV0VUuhfYuMA:10 a=OUWZSAEI3c7N9m7cfo0A:9 a=2Rsl9OF9KijoEntqDZZlhQExoHwA:4 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=o4tPe36UhihKqsyKG20A:9 a=Ft-WNntLy6CDf6z1r8YA:7 a=vhcfWkz-aB1xgAU5Z3etyf2NxdsA:4 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: RE: LF: RTTY test transmission on 501.5 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_012D_01CA712A.CDC9A5B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN, HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_012D_01CA712A.CDC9A5B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Pete for the rprt Waiting to see if I get any further. Will extend to 21.00z and then QRT With best regards Jim ------=_NextPart_000_012D_01CA712A.CDC9A5B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thanks Pete for= the rprt

 

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Will extend to= 21.00z and then QRT

 

With best regards=

 

 

Jim

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_012D_01CA712A.CDC9A5B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df05.mx.aol.com (rly-df05.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.18]) by air-df08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF083-5524b059ff12b1; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:44:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF057-5524b059ff12b1; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:43:47 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBCty-0002bG-JG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:42:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBCty-0002b7-5H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:42:46 +0000 Received: from gv-out-0910.google.com ([216.239.58.190]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBCtx-0001r3-Bu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:42:46 +0000 Received: by gv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c6so499112gvd.38 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:42:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=uZjacJOrJgQ9H1o2WQoRHqBvZ55TPlBtpQRBpbxrD1I=; b=Uqu16h6ZFXeeFbCeYcx89bLDurt92RvKpq1kn3kvCvMxRfs26chffUyCr+8+RYDHIe YYEA77Uh4y9Z3KC2I89aA2vh+HXpSzBMS3OGci2kJ1zZ5fZziLFERlMeg5GwsxFkkigP iWgi1Qvy4frcXzbouE9OrC43n53flV7OSvsys= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=i3LhV0NgdkM+pJp6sQS+in961SUH6eRgmTNJTAEsS70lAGd4KBXBgw0uop6MhB7tSC cXmmQQZKei3OESHoC7p+pwBJOEdee73X3v9CdUh2pKf2M64zm6fEbsnEm2cIMNnDw9/a 7dXV0x6qOPUnIeFc/DmgWY6a3/ozqH8112Qqs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.170.18 with SMTP id q18mr51654hbe.50.1258659764369; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:42:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <955F0C15833A459FA2557314E925534C@AGB> References: <4B0570B4.8040209@telia.com> <955F0C15833A459FA2557314E925534C@AGB> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:42:44 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR 2.0 is now available Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m225.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Crafty. 'should' be pretty foolproof. Any old soundcard without 48000Hz ought to just throw-up an error. Andy www.g4jnt.com This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health and safety police 2009/11/19 Graham : > All > > I asked Joe =A0K1JT , this question a short time ago, below is the reply > G .. >> >> Q : Is there a =A0means to >> compensate =A0for the =A0sound =A0card =A0sampling rate? , > > No, but I think an even better feature. =A0The sample rate in WSPR 2.0= will > always be 48000 Hz. =A0This will prevent a problem that occurs in a few > systems that insist on sampling at 44100 Hz and then resampling (in the > driver) to the 12000 Hz requested by WSPR 1.2 ... and doing a *very* poo= r > job of the resampling. > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Andy Talbot" > Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 5:29 PM > To: > Subject: Re: LF: WSPR 2.0 is now available > >> >> It has a calibration procedure built in, but as far as I can make out, >> is aimed at solving frequency offset / tuning errors. =A0 I may have >> missed something, but there seems to be no facility to calibrate =A0for >> soundcard errors in the same way as WSJT does, which can affect symbol >> timing . =A0As we found in discussion on theis reflector a year or so >> ago. =A0 =A0Sample rate timing error is enough to destroy WSPR decoding >> even when signals are strong. >> >> May be wrong, and will go and re read the appendices associated with >> calibration, but no mention is made, specifically, of soundcard >> sampling rate error - only refrences to frequency error. >> FOrtunately, as WSPR is designed around 12000Hz sampling, this is >> rarely out by more than a few ppm in most modern cards. =A0 See my >> Column in the latest RadCom for some soundcard sampling rate >> measurements - and how bad some are >> >> >> Andy >> www.g4jnt.com >> >> This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health >> and safety police >> >> >> >> 2009/11/19 Johan Bodin : >>> >>> =A0http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/ >>> >>> >>> 73 >>> Johan SM6LKM >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc12.mx.aol.com (rly-mc12.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.96]) by air-mc01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC012-da94aef1460367; 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boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01CA5BE0.44F10AD0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01CA5BE0.44F10AD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All LFers, Does anybody know if someone is co-ordinating, compiling a list, or wh= atever, of the numerous errors in the RSGB publications 'LF Today'? I= see errors in the book first published in 2004 have been carried forw= ard (plus some extra ones!) in to the second edition first published= 2007. It's not so much the obvious errors, but the ones that aren't= quite so obvious that cause problems. I can't believe these books wer= e ever proof read. Chris, G4AYT. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01CA5BE0.44F10AD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi All LFers,
Does anybody know if someone is co-or= dinating,=20 compiling a list, or whatever, of the numerous errors in the RSGB publ= ications=20 'LF Today'? I see errors in the book first published in 2004 have been= carried=20 forward (plus some extra ones!) in to the second edition first publish= ed 2007.=20 It's not so much the obvious errors, but the ones that aren't quite so= obvious=20 that cause problems. I can't believe these books were ever proof=20 read.
Chris, G4AYT.
------=_NextPart_000_000A_01CA5BE0.44F10AD0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME032-99f4af6a69ddc; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:08:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME023-99f4af6a69ddc; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:08:14 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N75cE-0005I5-Vx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:07:26 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N75cE-0005Hw-JF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:07:26 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N75cC-0003ue-DR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:07:25 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id C31B351C003 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 12:07:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id A439F31E702 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 12:07:11 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id 641C518056; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 12:07:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from 12.168-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (12.168-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.240.168.12]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:07:11 +0100 Message-ID: <20091108120711.z1zbaakm0cw0cocg@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:07:11 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <019f01ca6061$34a80040$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <019f01ca6061$34a80040$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.240.168.12 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Mal, assuming you are a man with a lot of humor here another witticism: Using CW is like living in a cave and making fire by hitting stones. Using WSPR is like living in a modern house and making fire by one click on the gass stove. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T (using CW as well as WSPR) Quoting mal hamilton : > WSPR is like a LAZY MAN using a WALKING STICK !!!!!! > G3KEV > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA043-8c94b07cbd91c6; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:15:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA093-8c94b07cbd91c6; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:15:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBnvJ-0004bz-68 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:14:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBnvI-0004bq-OT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:14:36 +0000 Received: from smtp21.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.2]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBnvH-0006zI-Uh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:14:36 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2108.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3B1927000097 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:14:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (12.229.197-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.197.229.12]) by msfrf2108.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 49CE77000084 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:14:24 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091121111424302.49CE77000084@msfrf2108.sfr.fr Message-ID: <000a01ca6a9b$c59b60d0$0201a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: References: <000f01ca6a92$b47052b0$0201a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:14:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091120-1, 20/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: hi Lubos Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6AA4.26FBAFD0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6AA4.26FBAFD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HI Lubos.Mick. LF group=20 good morning Lubos many thanks for the good control very nice week and=20 Claude F8boj JN16WA ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Lubos OK2BVG=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 11:53 AM Subject: RE: LF: f8boj G3xdv qso Hello Claude, Mike and LF! Both, F8BOJ and G3XDV signals are nice. I am watching this QSO. Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS=20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------- From: f8boj@club-internet.fr To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:09:25 +0100 Subject: LF: f8boj G3xdv qso Hello Mick and LF good morning ...solid copy=20 ur O no probleme many thanks for the First qso=20 Claude F8boj JN16WA ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------- Windows 7: Kter=FD po=E8=EDta=E8 je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD? Dal=B9=ED= informace.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6AA4.26FBAFD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
HI Lubos.Mick. LF group
good morning Lubos many thanks for the good=20 control
very nice week and
Claude F8boj JN16WA
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Lub= os OK2BVG=20
Sent: Saturday, November 21,= 2009 11:53=20 AM
Subject: RE: LF: f8boj G3xdv= qso

Hello Claude, Mike and LF!
Both, F8BOJ and G3XDV= signals are=20 nice. I am watching this QSO.

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

From: f8boj@club-inter= net.fr
To: = rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date:=20 Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:09:25 +0100
Subject: LF: f8boj G3xdv qso
<= BR>
Hello Mick and LF
good morning ...solid copy <= /DIV>
ur O no probleme
many thanks for the First qso
Claude F8boj JN16WA
Windows 7: Kter=FD po=E8=EDta=E8 je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD? Dal=B9=ED infor= mace.=20
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6AA4.26FBAFD0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df05.mx.aol.com (rly-df05.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.18]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDF073-5534b128f172b0; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:11:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF058-5534b128f172b0; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:11:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NElPr-0001LX-Cc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:10:23 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NElPq-0001LO-Mk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:10:22 +0000 Received: from n18.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.145]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NElPq-0002yZ-7Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:10:22 +0000 Received: from [68.142.200.224] by n18.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2009 15:10:15 -0000 Received: from [68.142.201.246] by t5.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2009 15:10:15 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp407.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2009 15:10:15 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 684610.64945.bm@omp407.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 93211 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2009 15:10:15 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=tGVwdkgEb9h1tmUvg9g50HliIJ1vNS7iVkRSQQhsrmPYP1Z0w8OB9kDkEqYYrRdbRq6gia34WHG4Z1lEk1oyf/xcvla25uzAyzyIoFqSXNoPY6wUEoWqwmpSqgLTueLPOB/RA7rw3xEKKW/qGHhp1OqklgFQXv7Axmc5fWDbHKg= ; Received: from host86-138-92-60.range86-138.btcentralplus.com (ken.h.wright@86.138.92.60 with login) by smtp136.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2009 07:10:14 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: 9Y6mUHuswBAgnrOsukIiNdFDf95uy_Dz34nY1hlg2liKgYD952sjbg-- X-YMail-OSG: hKjnY.4VM1lYoFgUF9PzFqSnzIYxpYAmaEa3Ow7uCNU3xLZ8sDxuiPcKDkpSqjKB6OWTDbByvs_cZNxiPQB5fyJenbMF5GDYHw36ea8X2lfM4wiRi_mvtia8dCMQcWuw_EBEDF6Uo91w3GdJz63iuoxiUEHW8h_f.rYQ3cqv7PZ9UFTdJ5iifwjomb0Ey6ET._A5DOE0_WGOR6V7hR8EOksAtKGEyQnYj5vyPnxmduLfIWHlAjb9ui5ZW8ixFIepeQ.OwTp9ey7Ib4d5rEXU4e6NVBObTURJKc9f6tgoNIhAypbh1yX7Hy0q36S7in_h X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <7FC548B8EA774499A7E2BBC7DDDBD743@lindavideo> From: "Ken" To: References: <2746F3E144D3480AB85CD466920B1313@lindavideo> <003001ca70e7$24aaf3a0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <003c01ca70eb$0aa52120$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <4B126AF9.3050300@ntlworld.com> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:10:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv diode Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001C_01CA7106.0C5B4150" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01CA7106.0C5B4150 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Everyone. Thanks for the replies, I have some BY255's which are rated at 1300v= at 1A, the input to the diode stack is about 2.3KV peak, and was plan= ning to use two BY255s in series in each of the four legs, of the full= wave bridge, the problem is most resistors are only rated at 500v, he= nce using a single diode would remove the need for resistors. With res= istors rated at 500v, this would require 16 diodes, and there is not= that amount of space. Next question does anyone know of a source of= 470K resistore rated at 1KV? these are rare and expensive animals 73 Ken M0KHW =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: David Towers=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 12:37 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv diode Hi Mal surely "in series" to give a 4 KV diode at 1amp ? dave G8SZX mal hamilton wrote:=20 Ken On the serious side, use 6 x 1Kvolt @ 1A in parallel if u are stuc= k. Don't get zapped=20 73 mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:28 AM Subject: LF: Re: 4kv diode=20 Electric Chair Co Zapenda Cul de sac Hellda State Zip73 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ken=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:04 AM Subject: LF: 4kv diode=20 Hello All. I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or equivalent diode, BY4 4kv= @ 1A, BY6 6kv @ 1A, I have searched the web and looked in Farnell,= any ideas please. 73. Ken M0KHW =20 ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01CA7106.0C5B4150 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Everyone.
Thanks for the replies, I have some= BY255's which=20 are rated at 1300v at 1A, the input to the diode stack is about= 2.3KV peak,=20 and was planning to use two BY255s in series in each of the four legs,=  of=20 the full wave bridge, the problem is most resistors are only rated at= 500v,=20 hence using a single diode would remove the need for resistors. W= ith=20 resistors rated at 500v, this would require 16 diodes, and there is no= t that=20 amount of space. Next question does anyone know of a source of 470K re= sistore=20 rated at 1KV? these are rare and expensive animals
 
73
Ken
M0KHW  
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 David Towers
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 20= 09 12:37=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv= diode

Hi Mal
surely "in series" to give a 4 KV diode at= 1amp=20 ?
dave G8SZX



mal hamilton wrote:=20
Ken
On the serious side, use 6 x 1Kvo= lt @ 1A in=20 parallel if u are stuck.
Don't get zapped
73 mal/g3kev
 
-----=20 Original Message -----
From:=20 mal hamilton
Sent:=20 Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:28 AM
Subject:=20 LF: Re: 4kv diode

Electric Chair Co
Zapenda Cul de sac
Hellda State
Zip73
 
-----=20 Original Message -----
From:=20 Ken=20
Sent:=20 Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:04 AM
Subject:=20 LF: 4kv diode

Hello All.
I am looking for a BY4 or BY6= or equivalent=20 diode, BY4   4kv @ 1A, BY6  6kv @ 1A, I have se= arched the=20 web and looked in Farnell, any ideas please.
 
73.
Ken
 
M0KHW  &nbs= p;
Thanks for those very interesting measurements Dave.
I was running 50 watts of RF to a 40m inverted 'L' at 10m.
I've= measure my field strength as being 640 mW ERP . .
Hopefully these par= ameters all tie up . .
if not then it's back to the drawing board.
=
73
Chris G3XIZ
IO92UB

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o= rg
Sent: Sun, 22 Novem= ber, 2009 12:10:45
Subject: LF:= [500 khz] M0JXM & G3XIZ

=20 =20
Hi,=20 Dennis and Chris.
 
I=20 checked your relative signal strengths during your QSO on 500 kHz this mor= ning,=20 using the Wandel & Golterman SPM-30. M0JXM was averaging -74 dBm, and= G3XIZ=20 was averaging -62 dBm, i.e. 12 dB stronger. If you know how much RF power= you=20 were each using, you can deduce your relative antenna=20 efficiencies.
 
Hope=20 this is useful.
 
73,=20 Dave G3WCB IO91RM
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dave=20 G3WCB
Sent: 21 November 2009 11:38
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500 khz]=20 M0JXM...

Hi,=20 Dennis.
 
Your=20 signals are RST 579 here this morning. I can also hear G3DXZ at 349/QSB,= but=20 he's sending too fast for reliable copy at this end.=20
 
My antenna is a 20m long=20 double wire "tee" at 5m, and the RX is a W&G SPM-30 with a tuned J31= 0=20 pre-amp. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, s.e= .=20 England
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of DENNIS= =20 EASTERLING
Sent: 18 November 2009 17:16
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Lost=20 QSO

Hello Mal
 
Sorry if I left you in the lurch&= nbsp; 16.5=20 today, after giving you a report 599 something happened and a single= =20 frequency signal came up on top of you and slowly drifted down=20 frequency, perhaps someone tuning?
 
Better luck next time.
 
73 Dennis=20 M0JXM

Hel= lo Graham,

 

Par= tly our good old PSK Sounder programm can decode STANAG messages (identifier…)

For= further steps there is only commercial software available as far as I know.=

http://www.klingenfus= s.org/perseus.htm

(fo= r example –hi--)

 

Vy= 73 de Gerhard  //  DK6NI

 

=3D= =3D=3D=3D

 

 

 

Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham
Gesendet: Dienstag, 24.= November 2009 22:42
An: rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org
Betreff: LF: STANAG ..= What software is this showing ??

 

STANAG .. What software is this = showing ??

 

tnx - G ..

 

 

 


------=_NextPart_000_001C_01CA7106.0C5B4150-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD032-8f34afd4a3640; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:00:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD033-8f34afd4a3640; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:59:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8unp-0002CB-LC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:58:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8unp-0002C2-77 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:58:57 +0000 Received: from mx01.infotech.at ([213.174.240.1]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8uno-0005cn-JK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:58:57 +0000 Received: from [213.174.255.89] by mx01.infotech.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8unn-0000i3-Fj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:58:55 +0100 Message-ID: <4AFD4A36.4070406@inext.at> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:59:50 +0100 From: Oberreiter Oswald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01ca6454$306b0170$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> In-Reply-To: <000c01ca6454$306b0170$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: oe5odl/f8boj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hallo Claude tahnks fer qso es raport running here only 30 % pwr 120 watts and smaler antenna , so thanks 73 good weekend oe5odl ossi Claude Berthebaud schrieb: > Hello Ossi LF group > Good afternon Ossi very signal in JN16WA > stopping the beacon for the qso.. > Many thanks for the new contact > good week end all > Claude F8boj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da03.mx.aol.com (rly-da03.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.77]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA073-a5a4afc848a3a1; 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Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:55:30 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:55:30 +0000 (GMT) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <2EB9AB3966984B91BB0C369B32CF12FC@AGB> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1621975262-1258062930=:98089" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d286.2 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-1621975262-1258062930=:98089 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just more boring old Beacon stations claging up MF.....look on RAC web sit= e... http://www.rac.ca/=A0 ........ =A0 2008-11-10 Canadian Amateurs on 600 Metres Industry Canada has accepted an RAC propos= al whereby selected Canadian radio amateurs would be permitted to operate= in the vicinity of 500 kHz. These amateur operations would support Canada= 's efforts to action a proposal on the agenda of the 2011 World Radio Conf= erence (WRC2011) which, if adopted, would create an amateur allocation in= the 600-meter band. Industry Canada have authorized RAC to recommend amat= eurs who would be licensed to operate in the 504 to 509 kHz band with a ma= ximum power of 20 watts ERP and bandwidth up to 1 kHz. Stations operating= in this band would be technically operating under Special Developmental= Licenses although they would all be radio amateurs. Distinct call signs= would be used and the licenses would be renewable annually subject to the= amateur demonstrating the research he has carried out. More information= will follow shortly in the pages of TCA or via subsequent bulletins. Brya= n Rawlings VE3QN/VE2QNN Radio Amateurs of/du Canada, Inc.=20 =A0 =A0 73 petefmt --- On Thu, 12/11/09, Graham wrote: From: Graham Subject: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature statio= ns ?? To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 21:43 Can anyone clarify the=A0 situation as to=A0 who can work who=20 is this the=A0 same as the=A0 USA ?=A0 =A0 Tnx - G .. =A0=A0 >From the=A0 IARU=A0 web site=20 As of 30 October 2009 Canada issued two licences in the Developmental Serv= ice in the range 504-509 kHz. VE1ZZ has been assigned VX9PSO and is reported on 504.6 kHz=20 VO1NA has been assigned VX9MRC and is reported on 507.77 and 508.5 kHz Two more stations, VE3OHH and VE7BDQ,=A0are expected to become active soon= .=20 =20 --0-1621975262-1258062930=:98089 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Just more boring old Beacon stations= claging up MF.....look on RAC web site... = http://www.rac.ca/  ........
 

2008-11-10

Canadian Amateurs on 600 Metres Industry Canada has accepted an RAC= proposal whereby selected Canadian radio amateurs would be permitted to= operate in the vicinity of 500 kHz. These amateur operations would suppor= t Canada's efforts to action a proposal on the agenda of the 2011 World Ra= dio Conference (WRC2011) which, if adopted, would create an amateur alloca= tion in the 600-meter band. Industry Canada have authorized RAC to recomme= nd amateurs who would be licensed to operate in the 504 to 509 kHz band wi= th a maximum power of 20 watts ERP and bandwidth up to 1 kHz. Stations ope= rating in this band would be technically operating under Special Developme= ntal Licenses although they would all be radio amateurs. Distinct call sig= ns would be used and the licenses would be renewable annually subject to= the amateur demonstrating the research he has carried out. More informati= on will follow shortly in the pages of TCA or via subsequent bulletins. Br= yan Rawlings VE3QN/VE2QNN Radio Amateurs of/du Canada, Inc.
 
 
73 petefmt

--- On Thu, 12/11/09, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.= fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

From: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>Subject: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stat= ions ??
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Thursday, 12 November= , 2009, 21:43

Can anyone clarify the  situation as to = ; who can work who
is this the  same as the  USA ? 
 <= /DIV>
Tnx - G ..   
From the  IARU  web site
As of 30 October 2009 Canada issued two licences in the Developmental= Service in the range 504-509 kHz.
  • VE1ZZ has been assigned VX9PSO and is reported on 504.6 kHz=20
  • VO1NA has been assigned VX9MRC and is reported on 507.77 and 508.5 kHz=
Two more stations, VE3OHH and VE7BDQ, are expected to become act= ive soon.



=20 --0-1621975262-1258062930=:98089-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD082-b754b02e84821f; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:16:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD047-b754b02e84821f; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:15:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NASZj-0004xF-WF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:14:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NASZj-0004x6-KE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:14:47 +0000 Received: from web28105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.125]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NASZj-0001VV-H6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:14:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 45922 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Nov 2009 18:14:41 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1258481681; bh=M7wiwUNYGWpuTXA+q+H3+F5/KVj1aw9yUWijtsA5+os=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CYBlwgyHUgRMEJnW3fXBP3hzMlyuqkNULWtAGMZ8upb9CtmTOGI+OLTYjpLORfFA2/CPqnb7b0VPqad22jIenmbSj34i2RdW61jGtV2z6kQtrvdZiR84MRWoHNzh10Z4987iZSb48v0INpzmMfokB+kqbb/Zc8tatO6ZR8pk1PY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=K3ATEDihM7UDm0ZnsWl4XY9UxYp1vuyNxOd2McjUjOjfXvJlwyWN7rbHWDAg8ZAG5dPIm1uM/gIQHscTzsKM8cwABkbe6uoCGaOLNpxn5eh/q+jiwmHDkDo1E693CBcvzz6GPz6OF2mwPUirUGJbLN+fcDhDqb1OKvqCmIGZCxY=; Message-ID: <891553.45476.qm@web28105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: X_z9EKIVM1lGSyUkOjOMhPOHmbKFOpgYbhY33ed0K8xvix.qgznhbeeI8KASAiD5WutS.6NzSXgP2djQtDENLOBwQGNZCfztSq3MFc5xZS4K93RWM3UBfiNoQH9y.89Oi1MxKy1NL2xh1zN_rEpJDn4li2HE7B9bAVR.xp4.f52heoeoQzOm8fZLkjieuVrSLskqKuZMo6CR1atwMttNvmzmqWC9AuzXhNbnAfM6hHdnlzfH0bAa7Kv7MlD7dZn40kVuj1mMmjW1KmL8DcuQ6LhSfljfjEJNf1yyEaz95WzNCZEL9pGQ98i2x_1GVFhu_wh5puY- Received: from [81.155.114.50] by web28105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:14:41 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:14:41 -0800 (PST) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: Trans. : LF: 136kHz WSPR tests Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1372993807-1258481681=:45476" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d234.2 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-1372993807-1258481681=:45476 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Roger n group =A0 Much as it pains me (being wspr and all) , yes I am happy set up on 136kc/= s. Please quote a dial frequency,=A0usb I guess? Also when abt? =A0 73 petefmt --- On Tue, 17/11/09, F4DTL@aol.com wrote: From: F4DTL@aol.com Subject: Trans. : LF: 136kHz WSPR tests To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tuesday, 17 November, 2009, 17:30 =A0 =20 --0-1372993807-1258481681=:45476 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Roger n group
 
Much as it pains me (being wspr and all) , yes I am happy set up on= 136kc/s. Please quote a dial frequency, usb I guess? Also when abt?<= /DIV>
 
73 petefmt

--- On Tue, 17/11/09, F4DTL@aol.com <F4DTL= @aol.com> wrote:

From: F4DTL@aol.com <F4DTL@aol.com>
S= ubject: Trans. : LF: 136kHz WSPR tests
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
Date: Tuesday, 17 November, 2009, 17:30

 

=20 --0-1372993807-1258481681=:45476-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (rly-dc09.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.38]) by air-dc02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC023-b404af6e8a03b; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:49:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC094-b404af6e8a03b; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:49:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7A0p-00073u-0G for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:49:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7A0o-00073k-Kj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:49:06 +0000 Received: from smtp21.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.2]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7A0m-0005L3-Sp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:49:06 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2126.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8DFE870000A1 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:48:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (222.43.196-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.196.43.222]) by msfrf2126.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 4EB6E700009E for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:48:59 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091108154859322.4EB6E700009E@msfrf2126.sfr.fr Message-ID: <001501ca608a$fcb90e20$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:48:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091108-0, 08/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: info f8boj Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01CA6093.5E312AE0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01CA6093.5E312AE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable sorry the frequency is 13705.0 hz Claude f8boj ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01CA6093.5E312AE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
sorry
the frequency is 13705.0 hz
Claude f8boj
------=_NextPart_000_0012_01CA6093.5E312AE0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (rly-mf08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.178]) by air-mf08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF081-9794af06576150; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:16:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF087-9794af06576150; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:16:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N5Mwh-000863-Iz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:13:27 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N5Mwh-00085u-60 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:13:27 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N5MvE-0000vf-Iw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:12:01 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3504.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9C1D37000081 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:13:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3504.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 905E77000084 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:13:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.42.7]) by mwinf3504.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 53F357000081 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:13:07 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091103171307343.53F357000081@mwinf3504.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <993BF7557D4B4C5F8251F19CEB166E93@IBM7FFA209F07C> In-Reply-To: <993BF7557D4B4C5F8251F19CEB166E93@IBM7FFA209F07C> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 17:13:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Hell Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003D_01CA5CA8.E9150350" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01CA5CA8.E9150350 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chris, There are 4 types of hell in multi psk as well .. not sure if it su= pports com port cw key tx ..there is psk and fm modes as well=20 G .=20 From: Chris=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 9:26 AM To: RSGB LF Group=20 Subject: LF: Hell Hi All, Does anybody know if the Hell software is still available and, if so,= where from, please? Thank you and 73, Chris, G4AYT. ----------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.45/2476 - Release Date: 11/0= 2/09 07:51:00 ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01CA5CA8.E9150350 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Chris,
 
There are  4 types of  hell= in multi psk=20 as well  .. not sure if it supports com port cw  key tx ..th= ere =20 is psk and  fm modes as well
 
G .

From: Chris
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 9:26 AM
Subject: LF: Hell

Hi All,
Does anybody know if the Hell softwar= e is still=20 available and, if so, where from, please?
Thank you and 73,
Chris, G4AYT.


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG= - www.avg.com
Version: 8.5.4= 23 / Virus Database:=20 270.14.45/2476 - Release Date: 11/02/09 07:51:00


------=_NextPart_000_003D_01CA5CA8.E9150350-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb09.mx.aol.com (rly-mb09.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.167]) by air-mb05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB052-d2a4b0989a7366; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:57:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB096-d2a4b0989a7366; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:57:45 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCHc4-0004qc-Mr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:56:44 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCHc4-0004qT-1W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:56:44 +0000 Received: from out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.237]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCHc2-0005TQ-Do for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:56:44 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnsFAA4YCUtcHEQ8/2dsb2JhbACCT4s5BsRlhDwE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,267,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="114955547" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.28.68.60]) by out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 22 Nov 2009 18:56:36 +0000 Message-ID: <00ad01ca6ba5$82fec130$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:56:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: G3KEV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00AA_01CA6BA5.82AD93F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00AA_01CA6BA5.82AD93F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tony Tnx ur call but the qsb was severe. We have worked before on cw so do= not understand why u are so weak at present. de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Anton B=E4rtschi=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 5:13 PM Subject: LF: G3KEV You are "O" here, dear Mal, ufb. Sorry we couldn't make it. Probably= my antenna is to small. It seems to me, that my limit is around 800-9= 00km on Longwave. Power is 1kW and I can't get much higher. But one da= y, we may get the permission for 500kHz and there it should be much ea= sier, even in normal CW. 73 de Toni, HB9ASB ------=_NextPart_000_00AA_01CA6BA5.82AD93F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tony
Tnx ur call but the qsb was severe.= We have worked=20 before on cw so do not understand why u are so weak at present.=
 
de mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Anton= B=E4rtschi=20
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 20= 09 5:13=20 PM
Subject: LF: G3KEV

You are "O" here, dear Mal, ufb. Sorry we couldn't ma= ke it.=20 Probably my antenna is to small. It seems to me, that my limit is ar= ound=20 800-900km on Longwave. Power is 1kW and I can't get much higher. But= one day,=20 we may get the permission for 500kHz and there it should be much eas= ier, even=20 in normal CW.
73 de Toni, HB9ASB
<= /BLOCKQUOTE> ------=_NextPart_000_00AA_01CA6BA5.82AD93F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da03.mx.aol.com (rly-da03.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.77]) by air-da01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA012-a604af1c8432c9; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:30:43 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA038-a604af1c8432c9; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:30:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N5kbP-00076q-C1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:29:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N5kbO-00076h-Qg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:29:02 +0000 Received: from mail-gx0-f210.google.com ([209.85.217.210]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N5ka6-0004IO-CC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:27:43 +0000 Received: by gxk2 with SMTP id 2so6433693gxk.4 for ; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:28:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3Lpw6QVo/dN5nwg6mvvqQtH+6qG1FTDf3orWrWpSxYM=; b=gntrgPu2OI7m/bCsgPxMN3i7tyRhFmz37WEQCdJdHeRf4EG1PsZ/L9cLJnx7ieX3Lv Kw28NBC24bJMKOafl9f+LkjCtB1SM1KEhwt9aVNGuzWY4sIHm7FFWvvfmPGcAA6JLtle pI06G/+WvR9EtyB37UODBdIHnU0hu9duw7kHE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=j1iqqzD+Fa9D9a/NcfoYLhYfUnF75/gdKoNzQod1k5wd70q4oyI6R1zLfbXDtvkuX8 gx1M+C4Fp6jrPmiYuBkikF3cYqX8NTQ5JlvQ2ZixaVMoXGr9MVgE/Xvuodq8rzwC5nKT loE0lpfby8yjhGKhC29COL+s+lyrzBJsheYJI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.77.41 with SMTP id z41mr3321736yba.126.1257359334704; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:28:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091104174833.EDE6F57CB8@mail.ebirds.it> References: <57a24ca70911040825i8280573r7c52559a04b70d6c@mail.gmail.com> <4AF1BA0A.8020207@usa.net> <20091104174833.EDE6F57CB8@mail.ebirds.it> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:28:54 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70911041028m1440fe77r5a3f814561d06ca6@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: "Poisson, Shannon, and the Radio Amateur" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m265.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Alberto, Marco, It appears that there is still a copyright in effect. Publicly downloadable may not be wise. I will contact you directly off the list. --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Marco IK1ODO -2 wrot= e: > Others would enjoy too :-) - very curious, indeed. > > 73 - Marco IK1ODO > > At 18:42 04-11-09, Alberto di Bene wrote: >> >> Warren Ziegler wrote: >> >>> Andy, >>> =A0 I can get a copy from the M.I.T. library but it may be a few days >>> before I get over there... >> >> Would it be asking too much for a publicly downloadable copy ? >> >> TNX. >> >> 73 =A0Alberto =A0I2PHD > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME083-9a34b06f42c284; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:55:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME027-9a34b06f42c284; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:55:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBZYW-00017L-Ph for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:54:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBZYW-00017C-DK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:54:08 +0000 Received: from out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.237]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBZYV-0002Nc-Rm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:54:08 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAB6DBktZ8Ex6/2dsb2JhbACERcABkE+BMII4VAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,260,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="110918971" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([89.240.76.122]) by out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 20 Nov 2009 19:54:01 +0000 Message-ID: <007f01ca6a1b$34a0b8d0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <20091120141648.8WGQY.1557635.root@mp17> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:54:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: WD2XES WSPR 136.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Recently there has been an upsurge in wspr BEACON appliance operators and your suggested frequency area is not the place for them. The bottom end would keep Beacon acty out of the way. There would still be room for the odd EU qrs operator, can't say I have heard many in recent years. The freq area 137 - 138 k/cs is frequently occupied by Russian and other EU dxers for inter Country working using CW and QRS and 136.5 - 137 for local CW working. NA stns wishing to work EU would still use 137 - 138 on CW and QRS and not be clobbered by wspr carriers going ON/OFF. I hope you see the logic G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:16 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: WD2XES WSPR 136.0 > Thanks for the suggestion, but I doubt it will cause you any more interference than it has for the last 5 years. From our perspective, the lower end of the band has long been reserved for EU to NA operation. > > John, W1TAG > > ---- mal hamilton wrote: > > om I woud suggest you Beacon at the extreme bottom end of the band and not > > in the middle of the CW and QRS DX portion. > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (rly-dd10.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.157]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD052-b9f4b085f76af; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:45:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD101-b9f4b085f76af; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:45:28 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBxku-0002zz-I1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:44:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBxku-0002zo-3X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:44:32 +0000 Received: from mailout1.go2.pl ([193.17.41.11]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBxks-00038q-7Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:44:32 +0000 Received: from mailout1.go2.pl (unknown [10.0.0.103]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554975D5145 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:44:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from o2.pl (unknown [10.0.0.38]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:44:29 +0100 (CET) From: bxi@go2.pl To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <39accf6e.491c4506.4b085f3c.33726@go2.pl Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:44:28 +0100 X-Originator: 89.76.56.60 X-Spam-Score: 2.3 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,INVALID_MSGID=1.71,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,SUBJECT_EXCESS_QP=0 Subject: LF: =?UTF-8?Q?SP2KDS_137kHz?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=INVALID_MSGID,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear LF, SP2KDS calling CQ now... 137,695kHz QRSS 3 73! 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<200911211246360102.1A12FB2A@smtp2.numeo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: Building a Softrock Lite RX with the M0BMU mods for 136 kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2119772809-1258805406=:67675" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m285.1 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-2119772809-1258805406=:67675 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I will mail you directly later=A0John howver if you get an offer in the me= antime please let me know via this medium. =A0 I am in the middle of refurbing a Mitsubishi DOHC 1800 enging right now=A0= against the clock so have no time.=A0The hands and arms are in condition= for fiddley work right now anyway...=A0hi. But in a week or so I will hav= e time. =A0 Gl es 73 petefmt=A0 --- On Sat, 21/11/09, John RABSON wrote: From: John RABSON Subject: LF: Building a Softrock Lite RX with the M0BMU mods for 136 kHz To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Saturday, 21 November, 2009, 11:46 Friends, Five or six years ago, I built the various circuits in the SPRAT introduct= ory SMD kit and they all worked.=A0 I now wish to assemble a Softrock Lite= RX for 136 kHz. In the mean time my eyesight has unfortunately deteriorated and, even with= a very good magnifier and a sub-millimetre soldering bit, things are just= too fiddly for me to cope with.=A0 Is there anybody who could help, pleas= e?=A0 The kit and the additional components necessary are at present at an= address in the UK. 73 John F5VLF/G3PAI =20 --0-2119772809-1258805406=:67675 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I will mail you directly later Jo= hn howver if you get an offer in the meantime please let me know via this= medium.
 
I am in the middle of refurbing a Mitsubishi DOHC 1800 enging right= now against the clock so have no time. The hands and arms are= in condition for fiddley work right now anyway... hi. But in a week= or so I will have time.
 
Gl es 73 petefmt 

--- On Sat, 21/11/09, John RABSON <john.rabson@numeo.fr> wrote:

From: John RABSON <john.rabson@numeo.fr>=
Subject: LF: Building a Softrock Lite RX with the M0BMU mods for 136= kHz
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Saturday, 21 November,= 2009, 11:46

Friends,

Five or six years ago, I built the= various circuits in the SPRAT introductory SMD kit and they all worked.&n= bsp; I now wish to assemble a Softrock Lite RX for 136 kHz.

In the= mean time my eyesight has unfortunately deteriorated and, even with a ver= y good magnifier and a sub-millimetre soldering bit, things are just too= fiddly for me to cope with.  Is there anybody who could help, please= ?  The kit and the additional components necessary are at present at= an address in the UK.

73
John F5VLF/G3PAI



=

=20 --0-2119772809-1258805406=:67675-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (rly-dc10.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.39]) by air-dc04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC042-b4c4b082b31150; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:02:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC108-b4c4b082b31150; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:02:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBuGu-0007sk-Cf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:01:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBuGt-0007sb-ON for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:01:19 +0000 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net ([165.212.64.31]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBuGr-00015o-QL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:01:19 +0000 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net (cmsout01-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout01.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90A692AC4A0 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:01:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps02.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.138] by cmsout01.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.58V) with ESMTP id XID010NkusBJ0144X01; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:01:09 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.138 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps02.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID010NkusBJ0144X01 Received: from [192.168.1.4] [151.47.208.114] by cmsapps02.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.53P) with ESMTPA id 171NkusBH1872M38; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:01:07 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.208.114 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.1.4] Message-ID: <4B082AE0.80607@usa.net> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:01:04 +0100 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4B07ABA4.4060102@online.fr> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Z-USANET-MsgId: XID171NkusBi1872X38 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) > Of course it=E2=80=99s a new and exciting technology, but I doubt that= it is on one >> and the same level with a regular exchange and therefore should not be >> considered equally verifying a valid contact. Shades of the recurring and silly debates that every now and then happen= on the Moon-net reflector... 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc11.mx.aol.com (rly-mc11.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.95]) by air-mc07.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMC073-da74b10fd994e; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 05:38:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC117-da74b10fd994e; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 05:38:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEKfa-0003Jm-Pw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 10:36:50 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEKfa-0003Jd-5Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 10:36:50 +0000 Received: from lnx503.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de ([130.83.156.232]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEKfY-0006K2-8o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 10:36:50 +0000 Received: from FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.212.129]) by lnx503.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.14.2/8.14.2/HRZ/PMX) with SMTP id nASAal6S025081 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:36:47 +0100 (envelope-from schaefer@hst.tu-darmstadt.de) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de) by FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de with AVK MailGateway; for ; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:36:44 +0100 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:36:43 +0100 Message-ID: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AA67@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> In-Reply-To: <000601ca6fb9$39a77870$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: LF: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz Thread-Index: AcpvuqMo4goQE/nDSnWPCY2AEftMFQAWfpVg From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= To: X-AVK-Virus-Check: AVB 19.592;28.11.2009 X-PMX-TU: seen v0.99a by 5.5.8.383112, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2009.11.28.102718 X-PMX-SPAMCHECK: outgoing mail X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: LF: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear Lowfers,=20 This is my first mail to the reflector and so i want to say hello to all= :-) It=B4s nice to be able to participate now here although my activity= will stay on the band mostly ;-) If there will be no weather problems this evening I will agn be qrv on 137= in CW (abt 136,8) and/or QRSS3.=20 Since abt 3 weeks I am qrv again. Since I live in a city I have no possibi= lities to be on LF, even not in RXing (QRM)... Therefore and cause I like= to be in the nature I am now qrv in /p. I use a kite antenna, 100m up (!)= . This should have a radiation resistance of 0,83 Ohms. My overall resista= nce is abt 30...55 Ohms, depending on the ground a achieve. So you can ima= gine abt the ERP. I have a 1KW class E PA that I use with limited power.= But The ERP easily reaches the 1W ERP limit, as one can imagine.. My RX is still poor but I am working on a receiving loop. Now, I use the= TX ant for receiving that causes some problems ;-) It would be nice to get some QSOs or even RX-RPRTs tonight. Until now I go= t 2 QSOs in each activity ;-) Best regards,=20 Stefan / DK7FC From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc05.mx.aol.com (rly-mc05.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.89]) by air-mc08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC081-d764b04a7af215; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:04:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC056-d764b04a7af215; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:04:33 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAwMf-00067y-O5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:03:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAwMf-00067p-1F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:03:17 +0000 Received: from mail-yx0-f203.google.com ([209.85.210.203]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAwMe-0003uz-AF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:03:17 +0000 Received: by yxe41 with SMTP id 41so3802780yxe.30 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:03:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=IAQN83NTqn3c4XLz3v4glcTYejjWkZxenDFFPmnmovc=; b=r2c+28UzlmQ8YOfsy1lV2v+YYng3/zZdUXGz7S1iqBuVbjwDgYLHyCdvB8+E+cpdCN BhZhgj5zT3i+qya3Oyr9/xj+b0lt2ba56Jf/zBEyOFGbnWA5GeGFkF+voS5QrZfZl+/K nslL4MzvztetfQT3gUrJoN8tzinq67JlMdn5M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aI9NavpO7DMPxQrWgLcdPU/6i4UC6uMInhZ/EOs5P/bUL9bPcjfa99Q1SfCJ9W/4bp 2a9BfnBjUhZqtUJrwMOXhRQ3bxbGiqS6VwabzO4idlc6YDumoXXdC/LO8ypZ9+/XZRa9 bUoHAbjbRGZuN8X9gfbxmKqz9i8QQlQJYrfkg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.236.18 with SMTP id j18mr3688270ybh.110.1258596189271; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:03:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B0472EC.9020806@online.fr> References: <4B0472EC.9020806@online.fr> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:03:09 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70911181803hf36c50eo18b2337c5e7fb45b@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: LF T/A [137kHz] WD2XGJ last night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m224.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Jean-Pierre, Thank you for the report and the '"grabber" ! I have been taking advantage of the good conditions to do some listening! --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 5:19 PM, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" wrote: > Hi Warren , > > Very good copy of your beacon last night . > > 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (rly-mf10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.180]) by air-mf01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF013-9864aff0785369; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 14:39:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF104-9864aff0785369; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 14:39:51 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9OS6-0000QC-Ea for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:38:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9OS6-0000Q3-36 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:38:30 +0000 Received: from 113-mo2-8.acn.waw.pl ([62.121.95.113] helo=paranoid.lipkowski.org) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9OS4-0007VW-Lf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:38:30 +0000 Received: from paranoid.lipkowski.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id nAEJcxPj004583 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:38:59 +0100 Received: from localhost (sq5bpf@localhost) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.6/Submit) with ESMTP id nAEJcxf1004580 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:38:59 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: paranoid.lipkowski.org: sq5bpf owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:38:59 +0100 (CET) From: Jacek Lipkowski To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score-sq5bpf: -2.601 () BAYES_00,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 137kHz grabber in SP Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I've set up a temporary 137kHz grabber. QTH is Warsaw, Poland KO02md. RX is an ex-DDR EKV03 with a mini-whip active antenna. Currently it is set for QRSS3. It is in a nice mid-point between active grabbers in DL and RU. The url is http://acid.ch.pw.edu.pl/~sq5bpf/grabber/ This area has high qrm, so if you see yourself on the grabber - congratulations :) I will leave it on all night in case anyone is interested, later it will be avaliable upon request. VY 73 Jacek / SQ5BPF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me07.mx.aol.com (rly-me07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.41]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME031-9c84b02d7b026f; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:04:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME074-9c84b02d7b026f; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:04:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NART9-0004LJ-J0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:03:55 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NART9-0004LA-4l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:03:55 +0000 Received: from smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com ([195.200.78.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NART7-0001jz-6J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:03:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 21284 invoked by uid 507); 17 Nov 2009 18:03:34 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO JR) (john.rabson@numeo.fr@217.67.155.178) by smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com with SMTP; 17 Nov 2009 18:03:34 +0100 Message-ID: <200911171803440957.069BC979@smtp2.numeo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:03:44 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Test Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 de F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD041-9064b09934711f; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:38:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD056-9064b09934711f; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:38:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCIFh-0005HS-Jf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:37:41 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCIFh-0005HJ-20 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:37:41 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCIFe-0005hO-V0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:37:41 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3518.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 686C91C00081 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:37:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3518.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5918F1C00085 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:37:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.80.30]) by mwinf3518.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id F2C001C00081 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:37:30 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091122193730994.F2C001C00081@mwinf3518.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <70CECE026BFC4433919E1E9E70CD6E5A@AGB> From: "Graham" To: Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:37:29 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: WSPR 2 running on problem sound card 502.4 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0070_01CA6BAB.3A76E310" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0070_01CA6BAB.3A76E310 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Running wspr 2 using the m-delat-4 sound card that produced vario= us odd reports , good signal no decode etc .. first tx looks to= be working , G4WGT at +11 dB =20 so far so good .. looks like the wspr 2 sample rate saga is ov= er ? G .. NB : I thought you only got a 'OOO' with typhoo ? (uk tv add) ------=_NextPart_000_0070_01CA6BAB.3A76E310 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Running  wspr 2  using the&= nbsp;=20 m-delat-4 sound  card that  produced various  odd = reports ,=20 good  signal no decode  etc  .. first  tx looks to=  =20 be  working , G4WGT at +11 dB 
so  far  so  good ..= looks like=20 the  wspr  2  sample  rate  saga is over ?
 
G ..
 
 
NB : I thought =20 you  only  got  a 'OOO' with  typhoo ? (uk tv=20 add)


------=_NextPart_000_0070_01CA6BAB.3A76E310-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db01.mx.aol.com (rly-db01.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.76]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB052-aa64b04786136d; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:42:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB014-aa64b04786136d; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:42:43 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAtDI-0005OI-Mp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:41:24 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAtDI-0005O9-3j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:41:24 +0000 Received: from imr-ma02.mx.aol.com ([64.12.206.40]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAtDF-0005n8-OP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:41:24 +0000 Received: from imo-da02.mx.aol.com (imo-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.200]) by imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nAIMfAFR012875 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:41:10 -0500 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-da02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id l.c02.6c2b72e8 (48576) for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:41:07 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:42:57 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: F4DTL@aol.com X-Spam-Score: 1.7 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: G3YXM / F4DTL Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1258584177" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1258584177 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Many thanx Dave for this new contact with you. See you later dear. F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP _http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/) -------------------------------1258584177 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Many thanx Dave for this new contact with you.
See you later dear.
 
 
 -------------------------------1258584177-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME083-9cd4b01781743; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:05:18 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME081-9cd4b01781743; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:04:51 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA3y2-0006I7-NU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:58:14 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA3y2-0006Hy-5l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:58:14 +0000 Received: from smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.16]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA3xz-0000AL-Px for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:58:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 71066 invoked from network); 16 Nov 2009 15:58:06 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=gM6Z4lpWAe6b0NZtR9LsbATq+EJJN38i5vqBhjQJUPCQXM28TB4kwWl02L+N9JCs5E4Ak2YABX4sCJ8LPlUDMHNs+VS7KGXyatvDnFMgyJTG63xBOILSjddDSD0tsFyKmWF7QErz6McaijV23JWJYyxk1ifGsYPYXW1CT9SYny8= ; Received: from unknown (HELO DennisPC) (dennis.easterling@86.134.101.135 with login) by smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Nov 2009 15:58:06 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: H_MJu2qswBDkdHeCAZfwexko6VNOiMP5URzYEvz3WrE5v1grQm6fnvJecjM9 X-YMail-OSG: PbsI9NUVM1kT7_c26OAeUrFWLW7AN6tA7gIoba7qUYpDnFde5dY3f1yPz0GPhSoQZ9uMOf54xFdIaWahpk8n_ku9JUSnSzsc7xt7Si5BizMYGDgkIEUHUsRzAVvL5zGgFZs3OPlv8qEt9_xxj2Ab4tGo5fTbpiIw3fDPSu9N9r4SCy068hO.dIlME7JEnfAZcftKgmpRILJiR7KdQzwIOUlZO5xlwgtKzkSpnRQEHrSTjzItLFzvFCeT91ff6jzHQj2WbQhIZ.BNFBeLWCPtTw8KJwmohi3HOQEWSA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <0027618A6DF64CA688334D0D26D77E8F@DennisPC> From: "DENNIS EASTERLING" To: References: <9afca2640911150318w25d40bb9w7c407d9d71e9097d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9afca2640911150318w25d40bb9w7c407d9d71e9097d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:58:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz CW - calling CQ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0131_01CA66D5.946562A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0131_01CA66D5.946562A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Roger Sorry I did not hear you, I will have to try harder next time as you= are relatively close to me and your qth favours my antenna orientatio= n. I did hear Peter G3LDO in opposite direction and tried a QSO but he fa= ded on me shortly afterwards. Meanwhile, I am striving to improve my RX set up and aim to do better= in future. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Roger Lapthorn=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 11:18 AM Subject: LF: 500kHz CW - calling CQ If anyone's about, I am trying to use a new fangled digital mode (it= 's called CW) on 500kHz. Calling CQ around 501.7 and looking for any= calls. Have heard M0JXM calling CQ but he did not hear me. 73s Roger G3XBM --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 ------=_NextPart_000_0131_01CA66D5.946562A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Roger
 
Sorry I did not hear you, I will have= to try harder=20 next time as you are relatively close to me and your qth favours my an= tenna=20 orientation.
 
I did hear Peter G3LDO in opposite di= rection and=20 tried a QSO but he faded on me shortly afterwards.
 
Meanwhile, I am striving to improve= my RX set up=20 and aim to do better in future.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 20= 09 11:18=20 AM
Subject: LF: 500kHz CW - call= ing CQ

If anyone's about, I am trying to use a new fangled= digital=20 mode (it's called CW) on 500kHz. Calling CQ around 501.7 and looking= for any=20 calls.

Have heard M0JXM calling CQ but he did not hear=20 me.

73s
Roger G3XBM

--=20
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http://www.g3xb= m.co.uk
G3XBM  =20  GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088
------=_NextPart_000_0131_01CA66D5.946562A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db01.mx.aol.com (rly-db01.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.76]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDB092-aa54b12c7bd7f; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:13:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB013-aa54b12c7bd7f; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:13:03 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEpBI-0003N8-PB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:11:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEpBI-0003Mz-81 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:11:36 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEpBG-0004EH-Uh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:11:36 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so2193480bwz.4 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:11:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4y0EliyIMQldqsAbq81RF9b9MciOCzHiZTeeRhlk+tg=; b=xqwvzIR7/LerMjF3JjIMgyfRIV46FvYr8Up5mwHfDfeNMTy+zblBTWS9VCuseSvmwu imFiGAXy7wmCm9i20wrKsPaTTr9Kfvhar/d+DkF7+04BIinx0IcXsG0a1HKb5kpypZVa selipqREMy9tIgfXKxGVde3ZZ1yycQxJ+UohA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=tRLQV5sh+rklcC5sMdSpxBccR/J/e4IVnZv9j4gc17HSKXqNjZCuD77ULQTbvgbRqQ TpoJyiv7MDQRQ71FsbQSOz01UxA4g3uQ+fZJEIWjZ0PKcnEWmFwvTlS91b19u0Ta8Kgc JsF1nQ4XoNfRy6+MBOuP6l0jfiOAbC54u5+c8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.8.155 with SMTP id h27mr3663328bkh.55.1259521888449; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:11:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <843259.12319.qm@web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <010c01ca7116$59615290$0317aac0@desktop> <843259.12319.qm@web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:11:28 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911291111v14a515dfy706294277775b7fa@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126,UPPERCASE_50_75=0.591 Subject: Re: LF: RTTY test transmission on 501.5 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd1fadabf74ce0479874ae2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,UPPERCASE_50_75 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m214.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0cd1fadabf74ce0479874ae2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable G3XIZ is a good signal calling G0NBD on 501.6kHz RTTY. Not yet heard M0FMT= . 73s Roger G3XBM 2009/11/29 M0FMT > Jim FYI > > G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEACO > <091129 18:35:55 Start Logging> > N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C > OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS > G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEACO > N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C > OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS > G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEACO > N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C > OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS > G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEACO > N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C > OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS > AIG7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEAC= O > N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C > OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS > G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEACO > N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C > OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS > G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEACO > N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C > OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS > G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEACO > N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C > OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS > > 73 petefmt > > --- On *Sun, 29/11/09, James Cowburn * wrote: > > > From: James Cowburn > Subject: LF: RTTY test transmission on 501.5 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 17:06 > > > Dear LF > > > > I am running a test RTTY transmission on 501.5 (I hope!!) It transmits= for > abt 1 min every 10 mins. > > > > I=92d be grateful for any reports. I will shut it down at 20.00z or bef= ore > if necessary > > > > 73s > > > > Jim G7NKS > > > --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --000e0cd1fadabf74ce0479874ae2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable G3XIZ is a good signal calling G0NBD on 501.6kHz RTTY. Not yet heard M0FMT= .

73s
Roger G3XBM


2009/11/= 29 M0FMT <m0fmt@= yahoo.co.uk>
Jim FYI
=A0
G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM=A0 RTTY= BEACO
<091129 18:35:55 Start Logging>
N RTTY BEACON TXING EAC= H 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C
OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS
G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM=A0 RTTY BEACO<= br>N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.= C
OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET= DE G7NKS
G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM=A0 RTTY BEACO<= br>N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.= C
OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET= DE G7NKS
G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM=A0 RTTY BEACO<= br>N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.= C
OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET= DE G7NKS
AIG7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM=A0 RTTY BEAC= O
N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C
OWBURN?VIRGIN.= NET DE G7NKS
G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP= OP JIM=A0 RTTY BEACO
N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIR= M RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C
OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE= G7NKS
G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM=A0= RTTY BEACO
N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTIO= N VIA JAMES.C
OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE= G7NKS
G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM=A0= RTTY BEACO
N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTIO= N VIA JAMES.C
OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE= G7NKS
=A0
73 petefmt

--- On Sun, 29/11/09, James Cowburn <james.cowburn@vir= gin.net> wrote:

From: James Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.net>=
Subject: LF: RTTY test transmission on 501.5
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 17:06


Dear LF

=A0

I am running a test RTTY transmission on= 501.5 (I hope!!) =A0It transmits for abt 1 min every 10 mins.

=A0

I=92d be grateful for any reports.= =A0I will shut it down at 20.00z or before if necessary

=A0

73s

=A0

Jim G7NKS





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http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088
--000e0cd1fadabf74ce0479874ae2-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA063-8c14afc915f1e6; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:51:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA083-8c14afc915f1e6; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:51:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8iUZ-0008PX-JN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:50:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8iUY-0008PO-UM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:50:14 +0000 Received: from smtp6.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.192]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8iUX-0001bM-Ue for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:50:14 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3623.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 988987000081 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:50:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3623.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 892D97000085 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:50:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.8.173]) by mwinf3623.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 0DF3F7000081 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:50:07 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091112225008572.0DF3F7000081@mwinf3623.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <563642.98089.qm@web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:49:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0127_01CA63EA.7511AC30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0127_01CA63EA.7511AC30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We are just as confused this side as well as to who can who cannot= and who did (not) hihi =20 G ..=20 From: Jordan=20 Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 10:06 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature st= ations ?? I'm still trying to figure out why my request for the Experimental Per= mit was denied... If I recall, I was told there wasn't anything new to= be learned at that frequency, and that my region (VE6) wasn't particu= larly interesting.=20 I wonder who gets to decide who gets to operate...? I know it's not RA= C, although they do provide the paperwork. 73...Jordan VE6ZT ----- Original Message -----=20 From: M0FMT=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 2:55 PM Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amat= ure stations ?? Just more boring old Beacon stations claging up MF.....look on= RAC web site... http://www.rac.ca/ ........ 2008-11-10 Canadian Amateurs on 600 Metres Industry Canada has accepted= an RAC proposal whereby selected Canadian radio amateurs would be per= mitted to operate in the vicinity of 500 kHz. These amateur operations= would support Canada's efforts to action a proposal on the agenda of= the 2011 World Radio Conference (WRC2011) which, if adopted, would cr= eate an amateur allocation in the 600-meter band. Industry Canada have= authorized RAC to recommend amateurs who would be licensed to operate= in the 504 to 509 kHz band with a maximum power of 20 watts ERP and= bandwidth up to 1 kHz. Stations operating in this band would be techn= ically operating under Special Developmental Licenses although they wo= uld all be radio amateurs. Distinct call signs would be used and the= licenses would be renewable annually subject to the amateur demonstra= ting the research he has carried out. More information will follow sho= rtly in the pages of TCA or via subsequent bulletins. Bryan Rawlings= VE3QN/VE2QNN Radio Amateurs of/du Canada, Inc.=20 73 petefmt --- On Thu, 12/11/09, Graham wrote: From: Graham Subject: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other= amature stations ?? To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 21:43 Can anyone clarify the situation as to who can work who=20 is this the same as the USA ?=20 Tnx - G .. =20 From the IARU web site=20 As of 30 October 2009 Canada issued two licences in the Deve= lopmental Service in the range 504-509 kHz. a.. VE1ZZ has been assigned VX9PSO and is reported on 504.= 6 kHz=20 b.. VO1NA has been assigned VX9MRC and is reported on 507.= 77 and 508.5 kHz Two more stations, VE3OHH and VE7BDQ, are expected to become= active soon.=20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0127_01CA63EA.7511AC30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
We are  just as confused this si= de as well as=20 to  who can who cannot and who did (not)  hihi  =
 
G ..

From: Jordan
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 10:06 PM
Subject: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with othe= r amature=20 stations ??

I'm still trying to figure out why my request= for the=20 Experimental Permit was denied... If I recall, I was told there wasn't= anything=20 new to be learned at that frequency, and that my region (VE6) wasn't= =20 particularly interesting.
I wonder who gets to decide who gets to operat= e...? I know=20 it's not RAC, although they do provide the paperwork.
 73...Jordan VE6ZT
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 M0FMT=
Sent: Thursday, November 12,= 2009 2:55=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Are the new= VE stations=20 able to qso with other amature stations ??

Just more boring old Beacon stations claging up MF.....lo= ok on RAC=20 web site... http://= www.rac.ca/  ........
 

2008-11-10

Canadian Amateurs on 600 Metres Industry Canada has accep= ted an RAC=20 proposal whereby selected Canadian radio amateurs would be per= mitted to=20 operate in the vicinity of 500 kHz. These amateur operations= would=20 support Canada's efforts to action a proposal on the agenda of= the 2011=20 World Radio Conference (WRC2011) which, if adopted, would crea= te an=20 amateur allocation in the 600-meter band. Industry Canada have= =20 authorized RAC to recommend amateurs who would be licensed to= operate in=20 the 504 to 509 kHz band with a maximum power of 20 watts ERP= and=20 bandwidth up to 1 kHz. Stations operating in this band would= be=20 technically operating under Special Developmental Licenses alt= hough they=20 would all be radio amateurs. Distinct call signs would be used= and the=20 licenses would be renewable annually subject to the amateur=20 demonstrating the research he has carried out. More informatio= n will=20 follow shortly in the pages of TCA or via subsequent bulletins= . Bryan=20 Rawlings VE3QN/VE2QNN Radio Amateurs of/du Canada, Inc.
 
 
73 petefmt

--- On Thu, 12/11/09, Graham=20 <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

From:=20 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Subject: LF: Are= the new VE=20 stations able to qso with other amature stations ??
To:= =20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Thursday, 12 November,= 2009,=20 21:43

Can anyone clarify the  situat= ion as=20 to  who can work who
is this the  same as the = USA=20 ? 
 
Tnx - G ..   
From the  IARU = web site=20
As of 30 October 2009 Canada issued two licences in the= =20 Developmental Service in the range 504-509 kHz.
  • VE1ZZ has been assigned VX9PSO and is reported on 504.= 6 kHz=20
  • VO1NA has been assigned VX9MRC and is reported on 507.= 77 and=20 508.5 kHz
Two more stations, VE3OHH and VE7BDQ, are expected= to become=20 active soon.=20





------=_NextPart_000_0127_01CA63EA.7511AC30-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df07.mx.aol.com (rly-df07.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.20]) by air-df04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF044-5674afde27718b; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:49:48 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF078-5674afde27718b; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:49:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N94wP-0006Di-Om for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:48:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N94wP-0006DZ-D6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:48:29 +0000 Received: from out1.ip05ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.241]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N94wO-0001aM-Ql for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:48:29 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtYEACtx/UpOkJnB/2dsb2JhbACCJCyBaolaBsgXhDwE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,739,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="83571488" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.153.193]) by out1.ip05ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 13 Nov 2009 22:48:22 +0000 Message-ID: <022201ca64b3$6a90d280$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:48:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: VX9MRC Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_021F_01CA64B3.6A3AEA50" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_021F_01CA64B3.6A3AEA50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable VX9MRC active CW beacon mode 569 at 2240 utc 13-11-09 507.5 K/cs. Slow= fades (qsb) Good signal for a QSO but vy close to a SM stn using SSB. I wonder if= he could hear me. de G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_021F_01CA64B3.6A3AEA50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
VX9MRC active CW beacon mode 569 at= 2240 utc=20 13-11-09 507.5 K/cs. Slow fades (qsb)
 
Good signal for a QSO but vy close to= a SM stn=20 using SSB. I wonder if he could hear me.
 
 
de G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_021F_01CA64B3.6A3AEA50-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me05.mx.aol.com (rly-me05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.39]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME054-9b64affe3bb107; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:19:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME052-9b64affe3bb107; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:19:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9d7l-0005ww-Pf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:18:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9d7l-0005wn-DE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:18:29 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9d7k-0000Ux-BG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:18:29 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so4868842bwz.4 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:18:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=MhLYyekY5lS55s2VAAIfp1A3wiRrh+wOcWYbwCJ9dWs=; b=UcVD5q7olvv6M5/N3rHAii1A1KuB6a/bNVsYzt4RWbezTRBfctZLQk3KFYwzya9lJy fUDGN8IxtbVnmonj0sJTFet2EOf6ly9f9C/HdbUddMHq7B/whNfo3jWCUSYwqQTUN7Up K+uOn7YUSk6MCUy0+KeroKe5ViVjtoRak6Fh4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=nW85d90KLz/LJSFEnGus9WcEtIwdLbO4nyFchsts1gkgmwxC5j4qNGgce2p0hwUkKS w8zpIQ7saGMSS8ceT3z9vyBnsHpDh+60tb3Ec9RRfNlrlynnHIgwqm3RRD9fgQLoSVMh AzQtnNK+R7HcR22i1CfpnEp5VfBiDX4Jljr58= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.6.24 with SMTP id 24mr4006869bkx.25.1258283901711; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:18:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:18:21 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911150318w25d40bb9w7c407d9d71e9097d@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500kHz CW - calling CQ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c0e9afcf5290478670ca4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d289.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0015174c0e9afcf5290478670ca4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 If anyone's about, I am trying to use a new fangled digital mode (it's called CW) on 500kHz. Calling CQ around 501.7 and looking for any calls. Have heard M0JXM calling CQ but he did not hear me. 73s Roger G3XBM -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --0015174c0e9afcf5290478670ca4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If anyone's about, I am trying to use a new fangled digital mode (it&#= 39;s called CW) on 500kHz. Calling CQ around 501.7 and looking for any cal= ls.

Have heard M0JXM calling CQ but he did not hear me.

73s<= br> Roger G3XBM

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--0015174c0e9afcf5290478670ca4-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (rly-dd05.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.152]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD062-b784b06a37efb; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:11:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD052-b784b06a37efb; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:11:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBUBU-0006PU-N4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:10:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBUBU-0006PL-Ar for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:10:00 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s18.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.29]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBUBT-00082V-MM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:10:00 +0000 Received: from BLU146-DS2 ([65.55.116.7]) by blu0-omc1-s18.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:09:53 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [221.198.50.39] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: To: Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:09:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Nov 2009 14:09:53.0075 (UTC) FILETIME=[21524030:01CA69EB] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Conditions to Eastt Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01CA69EB.208E05D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_60_70, HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01CA69EB.208E05D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable DCF39 on 138.,83 and a bit up to S7 at 1400Z which is a good omen as= its still light on some of the path... Good luck Laurence BY3 A KL 1 X off to bed ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01CA69EB.208E05D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
DCF39 on 138.,83 and a bit up to S7 at 1400Z= which is a=20 good omen as its still light on some of the path...
 
Good luck
 
Laurence BY3 A KL 1 X off to=20 bed
------=_NextPart_000_0008_01CA69EB.208E05D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb07.mx.aol.com (rly-mb07.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.165]) by air-mb07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB073-d154af4a48fc5; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:34:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB071-d154af4a48fc5; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:34:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6XNV-0006w8-SA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:33:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6XNV-0006vz-Fy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:33:57 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6XMO-0000sQ-5M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:32:49 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so1734231bwz.4 for ; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:33:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=Dxtc/LBmQ7bUm22Yo0JWPtObTa2glPbjeahWaU0taBo=; b=q5Jl0Ug12FS5KpUHH4pH7Y7665AE5kOH12QHcSJg79Gv/rOWWDi+IDvD1v8kQzpxT9 mbRQESyHLclgTPrpxeFzj6G92c/2PWUbwrwS+ZT4uW7HJ6oQ7DPTHnF/PrLG2fJkj1fU dqSqjRF5IBmhAkqal8IrGkTXptEv/l+8iqQWk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=VJs5PWzyTe9C/8bazLp1C8juCS5Bt4DmF6L4NgdOhiBO/rEhlRbMMVDtuNqDmXr55h 16vD2lrKO3gHYxs2xo1h6ipUt0Mw0tiEq37VoEV/87uLM5C7sTBR0f80fajo73ziYe7Q c9kEHzJWiLCalE8U5U9a278u4DCidI0dQL5kE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.152.151 with SMTP id g23mr4727916bkw.148.1257546830360; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:33:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:33:50 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911061433l70bfd8ddi30af83033ea5bbec@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500kHz WSPR overnight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175d03621cb23e0477bb70d9 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d261.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0015175d03621cb23e0477bb70d9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Will leave the 500kHz 1mW ERP WSPR beacon running through the night at 10% TX and we'll see what happens. Any reports, especially from DL or SM would be great. 73s Roger G3XBM -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --0015175d03621cb23e0477bb70d9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Will leave the 500kHz 1mW ERP WSPR beacon running through the night at 10%= TX and we'll see what happens.

Any reports, especially from DL= or SM would be great.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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--0015175d03621cb23e0477bb70d9-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (rly-ma05.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.49]) by air-ma03.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMA032-8ac4b0b09a7186; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:16:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA056-8ac4b0b09a7186; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:16:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NChBi-0002l7-If for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:15:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NChBi-0002ky-42 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:15:14 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NChBh-0005hp-0a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:15:14 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EA5E4C80F8 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:15:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 012494C80F4 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:15:06 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B0B096A.7040507@online.fr> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:15:06 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <4B04EADA.4090707@telus.net> <57a24ca70911190525s5bbf2768gcfe5e7150eb8f784@mail.gmail.com> <20091121211012.fehyrbxl4400ckc8@webmail6.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20091121211012.fehyrbxl4400ckc8@webmail6.kuleuven.be> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: VX9MRC Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040505030606000701080906" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --------------040505030606000701080906 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Joe, This evening I listened to your beacon, it is too easy! =85. first blow it= is in limps! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj --------------040505030606000701080906 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="20091123225953.jpg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="20091123225953.jpg" 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2009 10:56:26 +0000 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.155]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N4Y4y-0003HS-GS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 10:54:37 +0000 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so655501fga.10 for ; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 02:56:11 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.130.35 with SMTP id 35mr399668hbh.31.1257072971528; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 02:56:11 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [78.86.215.152] In-Reply-To: <9afca2640910311126k1aa9fdf2maafb546bbf89d372@mail.gmail.com> References: <9afca2640910310528p4f07557aifdc0557a68bfeff8@mail.gmail.com> <004501ca5a35$30eff840$0900a8c0@lark> <9afca2640910311126k1aa9fdf2maafb546bbf89d372@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 10:56:11 +0000 Message-ID: From: PETER CLEALL To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500kHz attenuation graphs? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f6d900ecbc3804774d1b09 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001485f6d900ecbc3804774d1b09 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 below are my rather vague memories, I am sure I have it archived on CD somewhere, but will not have access for several weeks. The information may still be on the web but had a quick look and could not see it. Maybe contacting Geri direct will help. Geri DK8KW used to have some useful charts from the time when he was trying to justify an increase in power for the German allocation. The basic curve on the chart was the equivalent of the CCIR information.Then he had the strengths of numerous European signals regards peter G8AFN 2009/10/31 Roger Lapthorn > Thanks Alan. > > I have downloaded the GRNDWAV3 programme and am playing with it - looks > useful. > > Really looking for some *normalised curves* so I could do very quick > estimates of expected losses versus distance. I've seen these years ago in a > CCIR paperback and was hoping to find these on the net somewhere. > > Now back to 500kHz WSPRing.... > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > 2009/10/31 Alan Melia > > Hi Roger you will find that the late Reg Edwards programs GRNDWAV3 (I >> think) >> gives a very good idea of ground wave strengths. I do have an article here >> (somewhere) from Jack Belrose with I believe some skywave strength formula >> in it. (I am "between two PCs" at the moment :-)) and it is undoubtedly on >> the other one ) Generally at LF the skywave starts to equal or exceed the >> groundwave strength at ranges exceeding 700km. It may be a little less >> that >> that at 500k. It also depends a little on the receive-system senitivity to >> a >> given mode, which is why very low power stations sometimes experience a >> "quiet zone" at least to audible reception. >> >> Alan G3NYK >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Roger Lapthorn" >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 12:28 PM >> Subject: LF: 500kHz attenuation graphs? >> >> >> > Can someone please point me to any CCIR or similar graphs (preferably on >> the >> > internet) showing the attenuation with distance expected on groundwave >> and >> > skywave at 500kHz? >> > >> > 73s >> > Roger G3XBM >> > >> > -- >> > ------------------------------------------------------------- >> > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ >> > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk >> > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 >> > >> >> >> > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > --001485f6d900ecbc3804774d1b09 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
below are my rather vague memories, I am sure I have it archived on= CD somewhere, but will not have access for several weeks. The information= may still be on the web but =A0had a quick look and could not see it. May= be contacting Geri direct will help.


Geri DK8KW used to have some useful cha= rts from the time when he was trying to justify an increase in power for= the German allocation. The basic curve on the chart was the equivalent of= the CCIR information.Then he had the strengths of numerous European signa= ls

regards
peter G8AFN




2009/10/31= Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>
Thanks Alan.

I have downloaded th= e GRNDWAV3 programme and am playing with it - looks useful.

Really= looking for some normalised curves so I could do very quick estima= tes of expected losses versus distance. I've seen these years ago in= a CCIR paperback and was hoping to find these on the net somewhere.

Now back to 500kHz WSPRing....

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/10/31 Alan Melia <alan.melia@btinter= net.com>

Hi Roger you will fi= nd that the late Reg Edwards programs GRNDWAV3 (I think)
gives a very good idea of ground wave strengths. I do have an article here=
(somewhere) from Jack Belrose with I believe some skywave strength formula=
in it. (I am "between two PCs" at the moment :-)) and it is undo= ubtedly on
the other one ) Generally at LF the skywave starts to equal or exceed the<= br> groundwave strength at ranges exceeding 700km. It may be a little less tha= t
that at 500k. It also depends a little on the receive-system senitivity to= a
given mode, which is why very low power stations sometimes experience a "quiet zone" at least to audible reception.

Alan G3NYK





----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Lapthorn" <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>
To: <= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 12:28 PM
Subject: LF: 500kHz attenuation graphs?


> Can someone please point me to any CCIR or similar graphs (preferably= on
the
> internet) showing the attenuation with distance expected on groundwav= e and
> skywave at 500kHz?
>
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM
>
> --
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> http://g= 3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
> http://www.g3xbm= .co.uk
> G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088
>





--
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http://g= 3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.u= k
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088

--001485f6d900ecbc3804774d1b09-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (rly-ma07.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.51]) by air-ma10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA103-8be4b053dc22e2; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 07:44:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA078-8be4b053dc22e2; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 07:44:51 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NB6MD-00080c-Hs for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:43:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NB6MC-00080T-TA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:43:28 +0000 Received: from qmta11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.59.211]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NB6MA-00015I-LW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:43:28 +0000 Received: from OMTA19.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.98]) by QMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 70DW1d00627AodY5B0jLFw; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:43:20 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([76.23.233.102]) by OMTA19.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 70rB1d0022DDHkk3f0rBy2; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:51:12 +0000 Message-ID: <00b301ca6915$df7b7440$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <000501ca67ba$e4817db0$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <002e01ca682b$c42ac460$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 07:43:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 1.7 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 QRSS10 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 T/A enthusiasts Thanks to Rik, Andrey, Pat, Ralph (and others for trying) from the Tuesday night QRSS3 session. Very surprised to see the signal received in Russia! Tonight WE2XGR/2 will transmit in QRSS10 mode from ~ 2130 to ~ 2300Z and QRSS3 from ~2300 to ~ 0030Z on 506.5 kHz. The QRSS10 transmission (letters XGR) will take about 4-1/2 minutes which may be longer than the T/A QSB cycle to western EU. It will be interesting to see if QRSS10 might be too slow for T/A work. As usual, any and all reports are appreciated. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 3:33 AM Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 > Hello Jay, Rik, LF, > Captures at 00.32 and 01.42. > Rik, here frequency 506501. > > 73 > Andrey / KO85sv > > >> T/A enthusiasts >> >> WE2XGR/2 will beacon in QRSS3 mode tonight on 506.5 kHz from ~ 2130 to ~ >> 0030 Z. Reports appreciated. >> >> Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de12.mx.aol.com (rly-de12.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.148]) by air-de04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE043-5214aff4f2123f; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:45:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE128-5214aff4f2123f; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:45:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9TDw-0002ib-T3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:44:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9TDw-0002iS-Bz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:44:12 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9TDv-0000R1-Nd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:44:12 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3403.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4BB881C00081 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 01:44:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3403.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3A5D41C00082 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 01:44:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.89.43]) by mwinf3403.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id D06C11C00081 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 01:44:05 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091115004405853.D06C11C00081@mwinf3403.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <5D41AF65D31E4BB29A03005B751AF9BB@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:43:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: Re: LF: Who / where is OR2ELN ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0055_01CA658C.AFA78A60" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0055_01CA658C.AFA78A60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Only the one decode . so looks to be false , the data base is repo= rting my spot as proof of activity .. frequency is right ..as there= was only one spot .. G .=20 From: Graham=20 Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 11:52 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Who / where is OR2ELN ?? This is the list of tx stations as of 2350 14/11/09 MF 03 .. looks= to be a little wet ? G4JNT 0.503852=20 G0NBD 0.503900=20 G3XBM 0.503904=20 OR2ELN 0.503908=20 G4WGT 0.503914=20 W3HH 0.503916=20 =20 From: Graham=20 Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 11:48 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Who / where is OR2ELN ?? 2009-11-14 23:14 OR2ELN 0.503908 -33 0 MF03 501 = G0NBD IO83 11740 326 =20 Just decoded ? tnx - G=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0055_01CA658C.AFA78A60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Only the one  decode . so looks= to be =20 false , the  data  base is reporting my spot as  proof= of =20 activity .. frequency is right ..as  there was only  one spo= t=20 ..
 
G .

From: Graham
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 11:52 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Who / where is OR2ELN ??

This is the list of tx stations as of= 2350 =20 14/11/09    MF 03 .. looks to  be a little = wet=20 ?
 
<= /TR>
G4JNT 0.503852
G0NBD 0.503900
G3XBM 0.503904
OR2ELN 0.503908
G4WGT 0.503914
W3HH 0.503916
 
 
 

From: Graham
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 11:48 PM
Subject: LF: Who / where is OR2ELN ??

 2009-11-14 23:14   OR2ELN   0.503908   -33   0   MF03   501   G0NBD   IO83   11740   326 
 
Just  decoded ?
 
tnx - G
 






------=_NextPart_000_0055_01CA658C.AFA78A60-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (rly-mf04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.174]) by air-mf05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF051-9594af6d3da16; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:21:26 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF047-9594af6d3da16; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:21:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N78ch-0006a9-7G for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:20:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N78cg-0006a0-HN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:20:06 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N78ce-0004nO-DY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:20:05 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E49D7B804A for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:19:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 697C0F3863 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:19:53 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id 085EB18056; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:19:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from 12.168-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (12.168-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.240.168.12]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:19:52 +0100 Message-ID: <20091108151952.3tkxrc9ggk8s84o8@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:19:52 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <019f01ca6061$34a80040$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20091108120711.z1zbaakm0cw0cocg@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <01cd01ca6068$54f09a40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20091108141505.zsudabk1wg80k848@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <4AF6CA9E.70403@sighthound.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4AF6CA9E.70403@sighthound.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.240.168.12 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: daytime WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) John, amazing. -16dB with 200mW ERP would mean that only 10mW ERP would be needed to get a marginal copy. TX is down at 13:45 UTC due to other activities. I will try to WSPR again tonight. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting John P-G : > Rik, LF > > Just copied you at 13:36 on 2 different RX setups. > > The usual ALA1530 loop/IC-R75 shows in the WSPR database, at -30dB! > > My HF vertical fed via MF tuned pre-amp to an IC718 (not reported to > WSPRnet) showed at -16dB!! > > > That's 1102km.... > > > I'll leave the second system running for another hour or so, and > reporting to WSPRnet > > Cheers > John > GM4SLV > > > > Rik Strobbe wrote: >> My WSPR 0.2W ERP signal was copied by GM0LLJ (774km) at 12:58 UTC >> >> 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (rly-dc03.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.32]) by air-dc04.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDC042-b104b13aa8616e; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 06:20:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC034-b104b13aa8616e; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 06:20:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NF4Ht-00064X-Jk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:19:25 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NF4Ht-00064O-3a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:19:25 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NF4Hr-0000qb-2P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:19:25 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF42C51C003 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:19:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from PC_van_Rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-106.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.106]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACBC6F3862 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:19:15 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:19:27 +0100 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <002b01ca71ac$daa46180$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> References: <002b01ca71ac$daa46180$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091130111915.ACBC6F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RTTY 500 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_12721865==.ALT" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --=====================_12721865==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I could copy several RTTY and PS31 stations last night and decoded also some CW QRM ;-) 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T At 12:04 30/11/2009, you wrote: >Lots of RTTY QRM last nite on 500. I decoded several stns. >G3KEV > --=====================_12721865==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" I could copy several RTTY and PS31 stations last night and decoded also some CW QRM ;-)

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

At 12:04 30/11/2009, you wrote:
Lots of RTTY QRM last nite on 500. I decoded several stns.
G3KEV
 
--=====================_12721865==.ALT-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb07.mx.aol.com (rly-mb07.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.165]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB023-d184b007b70154; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:06:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB074-d184b007b70154; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:06:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9nEE-00025r-5I for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:05:50 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9nED-00025i-Ma for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:05:49 +0000 Received: from mout1.freenet.de ([195.4.92.91]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9nEB-0001nG-UM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:05:49 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.27] (helo=17.mx.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #92) id 1N9nEB-0008O9-3v; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:05:47 +0100 Received: from w042a.w.pppool.de ([89.58.4.42]:3533 helo=2a2d7ed321c6425) by 17.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #94) id 1N9nEA-0006Po-DA; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:05:47 +0100 From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" To: Cc: "'Peter Dodd'" References: <20091029094436.8EFF831E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <4AEA289D.504@ukonline.co.uk> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:05:44 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcpY8ez//aa+wbIsSs6DCm2V43cB5AMidemgADDy4oA= In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: MF: G3LDO in QRSS3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Peter, Your QRSS3-signal is again good readable[Beckmann, Gerhard] on MF in JN59LN! vy 73 de Gerhard // DK6NI ================================= From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df09.mx.aol.com (rly-df09.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.22]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF053-57b4b0d0026222; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 05:00:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF098-57b4b0d0026222; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 05:00:07 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDEeV-00027d-Uu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:59:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDEeV-00027U-JI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:59:11 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s5.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.16]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDEeU-0008Je-Jy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:59:11 +0000 Received: from BLU146-DS5 ([65.55.116.7]) by blu0-omc1-s5.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:59:03 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [221.198.50.198] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: To: Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:59:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Nov 2009 09:59:03.0228 (UTC) FILETIME=[EAFA97C0:01CA6DB5] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: XKO freq with attachment - Alaska Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0121_01CA6DB5.EA828190" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 ------=_NextPart_000_0121_01CA6DB5.EA828190 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0122_01CA6DB5.EA828190" ------=_NextPart_001_0122_01CA6DB5.EA828190 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ooops - obviously need a cup of coffee/beer/wine Laurence KL1X WE2XPQ Wasilla Alaska...in absentia in China. ------=_NextPart_001_0122_01CA6DB5.EA828190 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ooops - obviously need a cup of=20 coffee/beer/wine
 
 
Laurence KL1X  WE2XPQ Wasilla Alaska...= in absentia=20 in China.
 
 
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owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --part1_c0a.682da874.3820e418_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1257212439" -------------------------------1257212439 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Hello Wolf,very strong signal here.Good DX. See the capture. =20 =20 F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC7400 Ant: 10m tuned MF vertical antenna _http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/)=20 =20 =20 Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 02/11/2009 22:07:07 Paris, Madrid, df2py@t-online= .de=20 a =E9crit : Hi folks !=20 I improved the ground system of the DI2BJ beacon on 505,030 kHz. I used= a=20 pipe into a deep water well for extra ground, measured some serious=20 RF-current going into the wire connecting the water well. I hope this is= a good=20 sign ! Hope for more RX reports on the beacon, it will be active for a fe= w=20 hours after sundown and before sunrise. A reliable pattern will be=20 established after initial testing and experience with the transmitting ge= ar ! good MF=20 and LF - DX for everybody ! de wolf df2py / DI2BJ =20 =20 -------------------------------1257212439 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= FONT id=3Drole_document color=3D#000000 size=3D2 face=3DArial>
Hello Wolf,very strong signal here.Good DX.
See the capture.
 
F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP

RX : Icom IC7400
Ant: 10m tuned MF vertical=20 antenna

http://lfis= tes.erst.azerttyu.net/
 
 
Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 02/11/2009 22:07:07 Paris, Madrid, df2py@t-o= nline.de=20 a =E9crit :

Hi folks=20 !

I improved the ground=20 system of the DI2BJ beacon on 505,030 kHz. I used a pipe into a deep wat= er=20 well for extra ground, measured some serious RF-current going into the= wire=20 connecting the water well. I hope this is a good sign ! Hope for more RX= =20 reports on the beacon, it will be active for a few hours after sundown= and=20 before sunrise. A reliable pattern will be established after initial tes= ting=20 and experience with the transmitting gear ! good MF and LF  - DX fo= r=20 everybody !    de wolf  df2py /=20 DI2BJ

 
 
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<001e01ca683c$55b78f20$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:46:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: SIDEBANDS Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01CA683C.5580C7B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01CA683C.5580C7B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My IC 706 gives RF output on 500 kcs but the carrier distortion is bad= when viewed on a scope. I would not use it to avoid causing qrm to ot= hers on the band, or even worse transmitting spurii outside the permit= ted band.=20 mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01CA683C.5580C7B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My IC 706 gives RF output on 500 kcs= but the=20 carrier distortion is bad when viewed on a scope. I would not use it&n= bsp;to=20 avoid causing qrm to others on the band, or even worse transmitti= ng spurii=20 outside the permitted band.
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------=_NextPart_000_001B_01CA683C.5580C7B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB083-ad94af722863df; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:56:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB077-ad94af722863df; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:56:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7Drk-0000K9-5M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:56:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7Drj-0000K0-QU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:55:59 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7Dqm-0002Bd-Q8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:55:01 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.6] (opc1.twatt.home [192.168.1.6]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 631F23B535 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:55:57 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4AF7224D.4010707@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:55:57 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001b01ca6086$cd0966b0$0617aac0@jimdesk> <004101ca60ab$ef362e60$0900a8c0@lark> In-Reply-To: <004101ca60ab$ef362e60$0900a8c0@lark> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Losses due to ant in tree? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Alan Melia wrote: > May thumbnail approack says put a vertical at least > as far away from trees, <...> as it is high. Not aways easy! > Depends where you live :-) http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/DCP_2235.JPG John GM4SLV Treeless Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de07.mx.aol.com (rly-de07.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.143]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE021-4ee4af6e65062; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:40:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE077-4ee4af6e65062; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:40:01 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N79qw-0006w0-Ls for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:38:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N79qw-0006vr-5x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:38:54 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N79py-000142-GF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:37:55 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBFD051C009 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:38:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id B748FF3862 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:38:40 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id 58A0918056; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:38:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from 12.168-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (12.168-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.240.168.12]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:38:40 +0100 Message-ID: <20091108163840.lo5b6gea88oc448g@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:38:40 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <001b01ca6086$cd0966b0$0617aac0@jimdesk> In-Reply-To: <001b01ca6086$cd0966b0$0617aac0@jimdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.240.168.12 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Losses due to ant in tree? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Jim, my antenna is surrounded by numberous birch and oak trees. 4 of them =20 in fact act as antenna support. As a result I have a relately high antenna loss: 130-200 Ohm on 137kHz =20 and 45-70 Ohm on 500kHz (low values in winter, high values in summer). I try to keep a distance of at least 2m between any "hot" antenna wire =20 and the greenery. I would recommend not to go much closer to avoid =20 extra losses and certainly not touch branches (not even with isolated =20 wire) as with high voltages this could start a fire due to arcing. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting James Cowburn : > Hi All, > > The vertical 5m section of my inverted L runs up into the branches =20 > of a silver birch tree. The wire goes over a large bough at 5m or =20 > so and then comes out of the branches for some 22m down to a 4m high =20 > pole attached to the garage. > > Has anyone a guesstimation of the losses in signal caused by running =20 > the wire through the tree? > > Using vertload and tophat2 I calculate the antenna to be around =20 > 0.25% efficient but this assumes it is in free space. Can anyone =20 > suggest a figure for the additional loss due to tree heating! > > The vertical element is actually sloping at about 20 degree from the =20 > tree down to the loading coil. The length is nearer 6metres but =20 > the vertical height over ground at the bough is about 5m. > > (Santa may be bringing me a set of swaged poles with which to build =20 > mark 2, well away from the silver birch!) > > With best regards > > > Jim > > > Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db04.mx.aol.com (rly-db04.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.79]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB081-abb4b09b8161e7; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:16:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB041-abb4b09b8161e7; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:15:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCKhn-0005vj-Pf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:14:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCKhn-0005va-C3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:14:51 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s21.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCKhm-0006L4-2z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:14:51 +0000 Received: from BLU146-DS4 ([65.55.116.9]) by blu0-omc1-s21.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:14:43 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [117.12.235.160] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: To: Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:14:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Nov 2009 22:14:43.0466 (UTC) FILETIME=[315F26A0:01CA6BC1] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: UA0AET et al Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_056F_01CA6BC1.2FD5EE90" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 ------=_NextPart_000_056F_01CA6BC1.2FD5EE90 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0570_01CA6BC1.2FD5EE90" ------=_NextPart_001_0570_01CA6BC1.2FD5EE90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Early evening very strong DFCW from UA0AET I believe and the signals= was CW audible here weakly with a narrower CW filter. There is anothe= r QRSS type signal just HF which Im not sure of near 779. Any takers= ? The freqs shown are probably less then 0.1Hz low - Im using the SDR= IQ and it does wander a little as the apartment heating system comes= on off at will.... All times GMT. My local LF/HF listening pleasure environment has deter= iorated with the advent of winter heating systems being brought on lin= e and the return and reconnection of satellite TV dishes on the same= roof with an increase of unwanted QRM, plus the "rise" or more highri= se apartment blocks North of me within 100m - All satellite dish cabl= es were cut (mostly literally) by the local authority a year or so bac= k... Laurence KL1 X in BY3A OM89UA ------=_NextPart_001_0570_01CA6BC1.2FD5EE90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Early evening very strong DFCW from  UA= 0AET I=20 believe and the signals was CW audible here weakly with a narrower CW= filter.=20 There is another  QRSS  type signal just HF which Im not sur= e of near=20 779. Any takers? The freqs shown are probably less then 0.1Hz low - Im= using the=20 SDR IQ and it does wander a little as the apartment heating system com= es on off=20 at will....
 
All times GMT. My local LF/HF listening plea= sure=20 environment has deteriorated with the advent of winter heating systems= being=20 brought on line and the return and reconnection of satellite TV dishes= on the=20 same roof with an increase of unwanted QRM, plus the "rise"= or more=20 highrise apartment blocks North of me within 100m -  All satellit= e dish=20 cables were cut (mostly literally) by the local authority a year or so= =20 back...
 
 
Laurence KL1 X in BY3A OM89UA
 
 
 
 
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mail.toya.net.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E755520000061 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:03:44 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B0C2E10.4060605@toya.net.pl> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:03:44 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGlvdHIgTcWCeW5hcnNraQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000e01ca6d27$45eaac40$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> In-Reply-To: <000e01ca6d27$45eaac40$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: SITOR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070303030608080003030401" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------070303030608080003030401 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mal hamilton wrote: > Looking for a good decode prog. > mal/g3kev > Dear Mal, LF, There are many programmes available on the net which can decode different FSK modulation schemes. Many of these are free for download and further use. The most flexible software i.e. with selectable baud rate, shift, mark/space change and source format and, at the same time being widely known among radioamateurs is, in my view, the MMTTY soft by JE3HHT which can be downloaded from: http://mmhamsoft.amateur-radio.ca/mmtty/ Also I would advise to use another program maybe less known to hams but quite interesting.. It is mainly suited for SDR type radio although it works without any problems with conventional receivers. its name is Sigmira and it can be freely downloaded from: http://saharlow.com/technology/sigmira/index.htm it does have ITA2 ,ASCII ( with selectable bits per character as well as parity ) and also CCIR476 source formats 73 de Piotr, sq7mpj qth: Lodz /jo91rs/ p.s Mal, have you received my qsl card for our xband 500kcs/7Mhz qso?. --------------070303030608080003030401 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable mal hamilton wrote:
Looking for a good decode prog.
mal/g3kev
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Dear Mal,=C2=A0 LF,
There are many programmes=C2=A0 available on the net=C2=A0 which can=C2=A0= decode different FSK modulation schemes.
Many of these are free for download and further use.=C2=A0 The most flexib= le software=C2=A0 i.e. with selectable=C2=A0 baud rate,
shift,=C2=A0 mark/space change and source format=C2=A0 and, at the same ti= me being=C2=A0 widely known among=C2=A0 radioamateurs is, in my view,
=C2=A0the MMTTY=C2=A0 soft by JE3HHT which can be downloaded from:
http://mmhamsoft.amateur-radio.ca/mmtty/
Also I=C2=A0 would=C2=A0 advise to use another program maybe=C2=A0 less kn= own=C2=A0 to hams=C2=A0 but=C2=A0 quite interesting..
It is mainly suited=C2=A0 for SDR type radio although=C2=A0 it works witho= ut any problems with conventional receivers. its name is Sigmira
and it can be freely downloaded from:
http://saharlow.com/technology/sigmira/index.htm it does have=C2=A0 ITA2 ,ASCII ( with selectable bits per character as wel= l as parity )=C2=A0 and also CCIR476=C2=A0 source formats

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--------------070303030608080003030401-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (rly-dc06.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.35]) by air-dc09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC092-b294b06d9c443; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:03:33 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC065-b294b06d9c443; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:02:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBXnm-0008OJ-LX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:01:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBXnm-0008OA-67 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:01:46 +0000 Received: from web28108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.128]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBXnm-0001e9-2A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:01:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 25687 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Nov 2009 18:01:40 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1258740100; bh=/u1lKE/MsZK7FEVeh/6FWCstDdEBx4sSvRRqTqNR058=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZXKTzf+nssKfTZwPfOL/nIr7Pq4T6ElfYAvpmkDpjRcV/8vXjqjAhNFYG5YrvQASd4o+VQrMj8TjEHAh/rbotpOt0XeI7/EvM4INvt1T6cxDYA3Xfh89lJ/KWFKr0Tdu74i6+peIxPugROgL17/1v/oIvp9TRPzQjOra0rHBY4c= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=sMfUzsXFDohkSBUymVPWXKVEUrZKWARTHRmY0Z3RIuwm+8ic+ince5F0OlK6DHRCBalgipY8ubkD6Lu8M0Kn14umHltgFhfW7c2uL/6GKOjxaKDJd4GQeVeVtZmwg6uAWUFCC0EN0h74yICsEDrQ+cgg/V4vAv65XGtl2EYXrvY=; Message-ID: <990579.85687.qm@web28108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: fQ5uhfcVM1m1d2zp1Q7yW8HGUzxk6IDi1cPQxhcO2h5K22LJzMWVocNxKVs7JoKEZ0O_rWMSCfTFEFbfqmtCfVVLL1v.kbyzcxR1h3tsvZIdld24wmDz7vjwtkJPBgHhjDaDITXhByebkKYTSycxd2R9ojxn60woHn03qhg_wnL3NvoutM1gWWh0HQC.T8E7zxdtwSnPScVRxEv6t0uxB.G2sg_ZA63Zhv.k1eoG.FHcqHGnWuraMYsQfubGtLW_AtClHCfAbJpzvfuL64L..KLnNWmuzRSYVwK3wx0nwLYcL_k2qGOyJQdsltuRPAVZmDexB30JLntb7w-- Received: from [86.140.72.176] by web28108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:01:39 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:01:39 -0800 (PST) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: Soft Rock for 500 Khz where to buy ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-60457580-1258740099=:85687" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m244.2 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-60457580-1258740099=:85687 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Graham =A0 To get all the info you will ever need about softrock either join Softrock= 40 yahoo group. All softrock circuits are available for all projects are= in the goups files. Also WB5RVZ has a web site with a lot of info but MR= SOFTROCK is Tony Parks helpful to a fault. There is nothing new in softro= ck that he has not designed and=A0kitted up and supplied.... Trust me I am= a Softrock enthusiast and some say slightly NUTS. Send a specific request to Tony Parks he is the manufacturer, designer, bu= lk purchaser.GURU, and all round good chap who will see that you get exact= ly what you want for a 500kc/s softrock. =A0 Good luck Graham 73 petefmt --- On Fri, 20/11/09, Graham wrote: From: Graham Subject: Re: LF: Soft Rock for 500 Khz where to buy ?? To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Friday, 20 November, 2009, 17:40 Peter, =A0 Only see=A0=A0=A0=A0 160=A0 mtr as the lowest=A0 frequency ? is there a sp= ecial ? =A0 Tnx=A0 G ..=20 From: M0FMT=20 Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:09 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Soft Rock for 500 Khz where to buy ?? =A0 Hi Graham n group =A0 Just mail Tony Parks details and costs at......... http://www.kb9yig.com/= =A0=20 =A0 Gl 73 petefmt --- On Thu, 19/11/09, Graham wrote: From: Graham Subject: LF: Soft Rock for 500 Khz where to buy ?? To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thursday, 19 November, 2009, 23:29 All . =A0 Where=A0 can a Soft Rock rx for=A0 500=A0 Khz be=A0 purchased from ./ =A0 Or=A0 do=A0 you=A0 need=A0 to=A0 modify a 455 Khz version for 500 ? If so .. where from a 455khz version ? =A0 Tnx-=20 =A0 Graham ..=20 =20 --0-60457580-1258740099=:85687 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Graham
 
To get all the info you will ever need about softrock either join Sof= trock40 yahoo group. All softrock circuits are available for all projects= are in the goups files. Also WB5RVZ has a web site with a lot of info but= MR SOFTROCK is Tony Parks helpful to a fault. There is nothing new in sof= trock that he has not designed and kitted up and supplied.... Trust= me I am a Softrock enthusiast and some say slightly NUTS.
Send a specific request to Tony Parks he is the manufacturer, designe= r, bulk purchaser.GURU, and all round good chap who will see that you get= exactly what you want for a 500kc/s softrock.
 
Good luck Graham 73 petefmt

--- On Fri, 20/11/09, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

From: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>Subject: Re: LF: Soft Rock for 500 Khz where to buy ??
To: rsgb_lf_gr= oup@blacksheep.org
Date: Friday, 20 November, 2009, 17:40

Peter,
 
Only see     160 = ; mtr as the lowest  frequency ? is there a special ?
 
Tnx  G ..

From: M0FMT
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Soft Rock for 500 Khz where to buy ??

 
Hi Graham n group
 
Just mail Tony Parks details and costs at......... http://www.kb9yig.com/=  
 
Gl 73 petefmt

--- On Thu, 19/11/09, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

From: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co= .uk>
Subject: LF: Soft Rock for 500 Khz where to buy ??
To:= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Thursday, 19= November, 2009, 23:29

All .
 
Where  can a Soft Rock rx for = 500  Khz be  purchased from ./
 
Or  do  you  need  to=   modify a 455 Khz version for 500 ?
If so .. where from a 455khz version ?
 
Tnx-
 
Graham ..






=20 --0-60457580-1258740099=:85687-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD061-9044afac31b273; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:59:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD054-9044afac31b273; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:58:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8Dhh-0002V0-JR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:57:45 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8Dhg-0002Ur-Sx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:57:44 +0000 Received: from mail.ebirds.it ([151.8.133.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8Dhe-0002bV-6R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:57:44 +0000 Received: by mail.ebirds.it (Postfix, from userid 65534) id CE626587AA; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:57:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ebirds.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3596C587A5 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:57:38 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ebirds.it Received: from mail.ebirds.it ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mamba02.ebirds.it [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GvB7RAkJcEzJ for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:57:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from imac2 (host185-41-static.24-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it [87.24.41.185]) by mail.ebirds.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABE605368E; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:57:37 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:57:15 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Marco IK1ODO -2 In-Reply-To: <4AFAAE9C.1070304@ukonline.co.uk> References: <001101ca621e$dcdc3380$96949a80$@princeton.edu> <20091110192309.4v8agotbs0k0gocs@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <004a01ca6249$d91531e0$8b3f95a0$@princeton.edu> <20091110222951.cr4qtrqagcwcowok@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <4AFAAE9C.1070304@ukonline.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091111135737.ABE605368E@mail.ebirds.it> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Ferrite characteristics Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 At 15:15 11-11-09, Peter Dodd wrote: >Does anyone know of a method of measuring the characteristics >(permeability) of ferrite cores? I have a box of these most without >any identification although I do have T200, 68-2T and T68-2s whose >characteristics are known. > >It occurs to me that you can make a tuned circuit and measure >resonance with a GDO when a ferrite core is inserted into the >inductance. A graph could be made of the different resonances with >different cores, to extrapolate the unknowns. > >However I think that ferrite bulk might be a problem. For example I >guess the red T cores use the same material but would there be a >difference between the T200 and the T68? > >I have lots of material about ferrites in general - I just want to >know what I have in my junk box. I am not interested in exact >measurements, I just want to know if a core is suitable for a specific job. > >Regards > >Peter, G3LDO Peter, just my 2 Eurocents... wound a few (5 to 20) turns, measure L and take physical dimensions of the toroid, use G4FGQ's toroid.exe, and then play with the parameters in the program to find wich permeability gives the L you measured. The program is pretty accurate, Reg did a nice job. 73 - Marco IK1ODO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (rly-dg06.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.90]) by air-dg05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG052-5ce4b06d4d51b6; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:42:08 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG061-5ce4b06d4d51b6; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:41:43 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBXTH-0008G9-PO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:40:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBXTH-0008G0-BT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:40:35 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBXTG-0001Vo-Jc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:40:35 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3403.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D9A131C00081 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:40:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3403.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id CD1FD1C00086 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:40:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.84.216]) by mwinf3403.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 4C0171C00081 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:40:26 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091120174026311.4C0171C00081@mwinf3403.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <923971.55504.qm@web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <923971.55504.qm@web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:40:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: Re: LF: Soft Rock for 500 Khz where to buy ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004D_01CA6A08.7EE09310" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01CA6A08.7EE09310 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Peter, Only see 160 mtr as the lowest frequency ? is there a special ? Tnx G ..=20 From: M0FMT=20 Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:09 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Soft Rock for 500 Khz where to buy ?? Hi Graham n group Just mail Tony Parks details and costs at......... http://www.kb= 9yig.com/ =20 Gl 73 petefmt --- On Thu, 19/11/09, Graham wrote: From: Graham Subject: LF: Soft Rock for 500 Khz where to buy ?? To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thursday, 19 November, 2009, 23:29 All . Where can a Soft Rock rx for 500 Khz be purchased from ./ Or do you need to modify a 455 Khz version for 500 ? If so .. where from a 455khz version ? Tnx-=20 Graham ..=20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01CA6A08.7EE09310 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Peter,
 
Only see     160&= nbsp; mtr as=20 the lowest  frequency ? is there a special ?
 
Tnx  G ..

From: M0FMT
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Soft Rock for 500 Khz where to buy=20 ??




------=_NextPart_000_004D_01CA6A08.7EE09310-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME072-9d14affbe36111; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:39:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME085-9d14affbe36111; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:39:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9acs-0004wt-9h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:38:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9acr-0004wk-Sl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:38:25 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f211.google.com ([209.85.220.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9acq-0008ER-U7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:38:25 +0000 Received: by fxm3 with SMTP id 3so153221fxm.4 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:38:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=j0X4egcx5+55rPiangPdfeoaFNxrl2fwqGelTbaaVt8=; b=CH6n0s02ONcsaf6V2s2H+/W4ehfut8NhzhC+JNlQiszUTD2/LRjecBPmtxepzrObPN Muzy/U/R1VxgaeMp9MaIHv08mq6eSxGecPNY3+FFGd9rC1oNV52uyS7IB9d317rk3KTt on5o7ORkykVwFjhmWNJs3dCpo/0bxCnea13Tk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=f/TtqB1LikyFpaZG0hjMZgQddSXKWuCBv2Tw/4ALZMHgzuDwPbQeR5cDz0wnpuHvQD +lj/7RbHPARGuocpp7VXDkoJJp63VQtudCB/0e5xHrVJFxBsKYA6/Ydk2TgdY5vCoHSd zA/HI+/i3k6BdzH1+/Guk/SvSWdQZpDPEcJfE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.6.24 with SMTP id 24mr3837514bkx.25.1258274299134; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:38:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4AFF3A2D.90108@sighthound.demon.co.uk> References: <9afca2640911141508w69cbb664i4d18d02e39c480d0@mail.gmail.com> <4AFF3A2D.90108@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:38:19 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911150038k1f79a343n1d87c4f4d7655c8f@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz WSPR - Germany at last Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c0e9aa1450a047864d023 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m277.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0015174c0e9aa1450a047864d023 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi John (et al), Yes, I managed to get it to match on 500kHz and, despite what appeared to be a lower antenna current, it got me to Germany and France. Today I am going to try for some CW QSOs. G3XIZ look out! 73s Roger G3XBM 2009/11/14 John P-G > > > Roger Lapthorn wrote: > >> 2009-11-14 23:04 G3XBM 0.503892 -29 1 JO02dg 0.002 *DK6NI* JN59ln >> > > Roger, > > I thought you weren't going to be using WPSR tonight! Has the antenna dried > out now? > > John > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --0015174c0e9aa1450a047864d023 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi John (et al),

Yes, I managed to get it to match on 500kHz and,= despite what appeared to be a lower antenna current, it got me to Germany= and France. Today I am going to try for some CW QSOs. G3XIZ look out!
=
73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/11/14 John P-G= <gm= 4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>


Roger Lapthorn wrote:
=A02009-11-14 23:04 =A0G3XBM =A00.503892 =A0-29 =A01 =A0JO02dg =A00.002 = =A0*DK6NI* =A0JN59ln

Roger,

I thought you weren't going to be using WPSR tonight! Has the antenna= dried out now?

John




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http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088
--0015174c0e9aa1450a047864d023-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD031-b5a4aff3a65e5; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:16:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD014-b5a4aff3a65e5; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:16:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9Rqc-0001v4-FP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:16:02 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9Rqc-0001uv-2w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:16:02 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9Rqa-0006lU-8h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:16:02 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.14] (unknown [192.168.1.14]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE66E3B49B for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:15:57 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4AFF3A2D.90108@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:15:57 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <9afca2640911141508w69cbb664i4d18d02e39c480d0@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9afca2640911141508w69cbb664i4d18d02e39c480d0@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz WSPR - Germany at last Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Roger Lapthorn wrote: > 2009-11-14 23:04 G3XBM 0.503892 -29 1 JO02dg 0.002 *DK6NI* JN59ln Roger, I thought you weren't going to be using WPSR tonight! Has the antenna dried out now? John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA051-a694afea592177; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:42:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA051-a694afea592177; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:41:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9Hw2-0007g7-DJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:40:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9Hw2-0007fy-1c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:40:58 +0000 Received: from out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.239]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9Hw1-0005WQ-5c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:40:58 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AswEALMz/kpZ8h2I/2dsb2JhbACCIi2BaolaBsVahDwE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,741,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="89871702" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.242.29.136]) by out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 14 Nov 2009 12:40:49 +0000 Message-ID: <024f01ca6527$b574a190$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:40:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: DX TONITE Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_024C_01CA6527.B494A1D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_024C_01CA6527.B494A1D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I shall be DXING agn tonite TX 502.57 and QSX 7033 and 3533, or any fr= eq requested. CQ G3KEV QSK - just BK for qso. Freqs monitored at all times for immediate QSO - NO BEACON mode=20 Last nite vy productive for 500/HF QSO'S around EU and beyond 73 de mal/g3kev =20 ------=_NextPart_000_024C_01CA6527.B494A1D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I shall be DXING agn tonite TX 502.57= and QSX 7033=20 and 3533, or any freq requested. CQ G3KEV QSK - just BK for qso.
Freqs monitored at all times for imme= diate QSO=20 - NO BEACON mode
Last nite vy productive for 500/= HF QSO'S=20 around EU and beyond
73 de mal/g3kev
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_024C_01CA6527.B494A1D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da08.mx.aol.com (rly-da08.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.82]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDA094-a884b1135da3b9; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 09:38:30 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA088-a884b1135da3b9; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 09:38:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEOQN-0004hQ-HT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:37:23 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEOQM-0004hH-Vo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:37:23 +0000 Received: from mout4.freenet.de ([195.4.92.94]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEOQL-0007cO-7s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:37:22 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.16] (helo=6.mx.freenet.de) by mout4.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.70 #1) id 1NEOQK-0000m1-Es for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:37:20 +0100 Received: from wb31d.w.pppool.de ([89.58.179.29]:1082 helo=[192.168.1.3]) by 6.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #94) id 1NEOQK-0004zt-2n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:37:20 +0100 Message-ID: <4B11359E.8090001@freenet.de> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:37:18 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Wolfgang_B=FCscher?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <806352.5294.qm@web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <806352.5294.qm@web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: How do I use Spectrum Lab as a VLF Soft Receiver ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Andy, Of course Spectum Lab does work as a software designed radio with audio output. If you use a stereo soundcard (for I/Q input), start here (in the main menu): Quick Settings .. Image cancelling receivers .. SDR on stereo soundcard, 48 k sampling, downconverter, adjustable filter. The "SID" setting is really not intended as an audible reciver, but as a strip chart plotter for fieldstrenghs. Cheers, Wolf . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com (rly-md01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.139]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD104-8e44b0d4991376; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:13:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD014-8e44b0d4991376; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:13:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDJXI-0003UP-Ee for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:12:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDJXH-0003UG-UB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:12:03 +0000 Received: from out1.ip09ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.245]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDJXH-0001zE-42 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:12:03 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuAEAA7YDEtcGuLt/2dsb2JhbACCIS+LPgbIBYQyBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,286,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="246962254" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.26.226.237]) by out1.ip09ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 25 Nov 2009 15:11:57 +0000 Message-ID: <000b01ca6de1$9fb6b1a0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000c01ca6db1$04873810$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:11:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Class E pa Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01CA6DE1.9F5C0E80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01CA6DE1.9F5C0E80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tony The G3YXM designs are class D and not class E. I do not know of any am= ateur using class E except myself. There could be others of course but most favour class D probably becau= se they are more flexible as far as frequency is concerned. Class E is= a very narrow frequency PA design and more critical to set up, but on= ce adjusted properly using a scope to get the drain waveform perfected= it is a vy reliable PA. De Mal/G3KEV=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Anton B=E4rtschi=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 11:47 AM Subject: Re: LF: Class E pa Hi Mal I'm still using a Derivative of the Design from G3YXM's class E 1KW= TX on LF. Recently I've built a TX for 500 kHz using the same princip= le. It works great and delivers up to 500W. Unfortunately only into a= dummy load, because 500 kHz is still not allowed here in Switzerland.= But at least - I will be ready ;-) 73 de Toni, HB9ASB 2009/11/25 mal hamilton Ref recent discussion on the subject. I use a class E pa on 500 kcs and never get any trouble. As a general guide use high voltage fets and the fet V should be= rated at about 5 times the supply V and current about 3 times. You arrive at class E by careful design not by accident.=20 Having designed and built the PA for the required power and load= R usually 50 ohms adjust into a DL for correct waveform as displayed= on a 'scope, this is important otherwise V spikes and instability wil= l kill the fet.=20 Install a suitable antenna and match it with a suitable atu to 50= ohms so when you connect the TX/PA to the antenna they both match. Check the wave form again and any slight mismatch should be adjust= ed by the antenna atu and NOT the pa.=20 The load does not have to be 50 ohms but this is convenient when= testing with available test gear. High V fets give more realistic C and Inductor and R values. A goo= d range for fets is a psu giving 40 - 100 volts ie fets 500volts and= a suitable current rating depending on your power. requirements ie if= you need to draw 5 amps the fet should be rated 15 amps. These are the general guidelines and work well for me. Most amateurs seem to use class D amps whereas class E are rare. de Mal/G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01CA6DE1.9F5C0E80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tony
The G3YXM designs are class D and not= class E. I do=20 not know of any amateur using class E except myself.
There could be others of course but= most favour=20 class D probably because they are more flexible as far as frequency=20 is concerned. Class E is a very narrow frequency PA design= and more=20 critical to set up, but once adjusted properly using a scope to get th= e drain=20 waveform perfected it is a vy reliable PA.
De Mal/G3KEV
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Anton= B=E4rtschi=20
Sent: Wednesday, November 25,= 2009 11:47=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Class E pa

Hi Mal
I'm still using a Derivative of the Design= from=20 G3YXM's class E 1KW TX on LF. Recently I've built a TX for 500 kHz= using the=20 same principle. It works great and delivers up to 500W. Unfortunatel= y only=20 into a dummy load, because 500 kHz is still not allowed here in Swit= zerland.=20 But at least - I will be ready ;-)
73 de Toni, HB9ASB

2009/11/25 mal hamilton <= ;g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
Ref recent discussion on the=20 subject.
 
I use a class E pa on 500 kcs and= never get any=20 trouble.
As a general guide use high volta= ge fets and=20 the fet V should be rated at  about 5 times the supply V and= current=20 about 3 times.
You arrive at class E by careful= design not by=20 accident.
Having designed and built the PA= for the=20 required power and load R usually 50 ohms adjust into a= DL for=20 correct waveform as displayed on a 'scope, this is important other= wise V=20 spikes and instability will kill the fet.
Install a suitable antenna and ma= tch it with a=20 suitable atu to 50 ohms so when you connect the TX/PA to the anten= na they=20 both match.
Check the wave form again and any= slight=20 mismatch should be adjusted by the antenna atu and NOT the pa.
The load does=20 not have to be 50 ohms but this is convenient when testing with av= ailable=20 test gear.
High V fets give more realistic= C and Inductor=20 and R values. A good range for fets is a psu giving 40 - 100 volts= ie fets=20 500volts and a suitable current rating depending on your power. re= quirements=20 ie if you need to draw 5 amps the fet should be rated 15 amps.
These are the general guidelines= and work well=20 for me.
Most amateurs seem to use class= D amps whereas=20 class E are rare.
 
de Mal/G3KEV
 

------=_NextPart_000_0008_01CA6DE1.9F5C0E80-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (rly-mf01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.171]) by air-mf02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF023-93e4af4532a250; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 11:47:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF014-93e4af4532a250; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 11:47:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6Rwh-0005TL-TF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:45:55 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6Rwh-0005TC-Ed for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:45:55 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f211.google.com ([209.85.220.211]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6Rwe-0003d2-Jy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:45:55 +0000 Received: by fxm3 with SMTP id 3so295699fxm.4 for ; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 08:45:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=xurnc/QrlU0IKDF01LGfa9Ohbu/eKEmj45Fyb0aVbM8=; b=HbTVf+Dnf9v0N8Nvgwa1/G2gbSKQsqpW1mnP04VzklcLCtxRNCg1ZjEpZAGxum4ZMY Noi7udnn5I+viWh4QS2Mzld/6TLaE9Z+j3om8otM8mMbRbkjNGtX8qzJ/dCeZBxaH8M2 ilqb8yPtHTYYr7gxhnNsAHyWqjbQoKk9xdjVg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=w4w7OwgJM9yL60NCCECcrzlLsDRJkpFczkJPS1abGf/Uv9uXMWutWnVdtyIgQ00L2n cC/UQyMoyNUYKxtmHENIYkzOECtrdqAKdZajEay02PUF7pIgOz9VLLl19TYAW19zSNnF QgwiPmPtFdcTjN+caY43ZJfsYg08MYjfmUYx4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.152.151 with SMTP id g23mr4388832bkw.148.1257525946666; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 08:45:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:45:46 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911060845r17eb75daracad4f874c3a1c9c@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_10_20=0.945,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: G3XBM: 500kHz ERP increased by 6dB - WSPR reports please Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175d036258cfb50477b6933c X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m220.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0015175d036258cfb50477b6933c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Today I modified my 500kHz antenna. The 28MHz halo up at the top of the 5-6m vertical section (which was the coax feed to the 28MHz halo) was removed and replaced by a spiral inductance/ top capacity hat consisting of around around 8 "spiralling in" turns in the space occupied by the original halo. Seeing my initial reports from M0BMU I am some *5-6dB stronger* than I was before, I guess because more of the antenna current is in the vertical section. The measured antenna current is not much different though. *Please listen for me on 500kHz WSPR* and let me know if I am now stronger than before. 73s Roger G3XBM -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --0015175d036258cfb50477b6933c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Today I modified my 500kHz antenna. The 28MHz halo up at the top of the 5-= 6m vertical section (which was the coax feed to the 28MHz halo) was remove= d and replaced by a spiral inductance/ top capacity hat consisting of arou= nd around 8 "spiralling in" turns in the space occupied by the= original halo.=A0 Seeing my initial reports from M0BMU I am some 5-6dB= stronger than I was before, I guess because more of the antenna curre= nt is in the vertical section. The measured antenna current is not much di= fferent though.

Please listen for me on 500kHz WSPR and let me know if= I am now stronger than before.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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--0015175d036258cfb50477b6933c-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA033-8d44af72efc1c; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:50:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA106-8d44af72efc1c; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:50:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7Eh2-0000tG-GD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:49:00 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7Eh1-0000t7-M8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:48:59 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([199.185.220.240]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7Egy-0006ZC-Iy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:48:59 +0000 Received: from edtnaa01.telusplanet.net ([75.157.140.241]) by priv-edtnes25.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091108204854.SVTC28811.priv-edtnes25.telusplanet.net@edtnaa01.telusplanet.net> for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:48:54 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.67] (d75-157-140-241.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.140.241]) by edtnaa01.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id C15792F367BA3353 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:48:53 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4AF72EB5.6060200@telus.net> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:48:53 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4AF67DB3.1020204@telus.net> <3A8796444EB74E3E82CA2F48F839559E@df2py> In-Reply-To: <3A8796444EB74E3E82CA2F48F839559E@df2py> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: AW: DCF39 strong on west coast. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Wolf Due to a decided shift in policy making by both RAC and Industry Canada, I have elected not to participate in their decidedly unamateur experimental program for 600m as a matter of principle. I remain fully committed to further experimental work on 2200m and look forward to the day when Canada 'finally' authorizes the band. I hope the spirit of some experimenters out there isn't dead and someone is willing to spark up a beacon from EU as the path seems the best I've seen in years of monitoring. 73 Scott VE7TIL CN89dk Wolf Ostwald wrote: > Hi Scott ! > Interesting about the signal from DCF in Germany. That transmitter is about > 50 miles east of me. But on LF almost no chance for VE7. > Are You doing any on 500 kcs ? That band is more of a chance for the > westcoast. But as of yet I have not reached the east coast on 500 kc. > But I am planning on good improvements for 500 kcs on the antenna side. > Let me know if You do any 500 kcs obsrvations. > 73 de wolf > BTW : added pix of my 505.030 kc transmitter - beacon call is DI2BJ > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc12.mx.aol.com (rly-mc12.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.96]) by air-mc03.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMC033-dad4b124446f0; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 04:52:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC125-dad4b124446f0; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 04:52:07 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEgQd-0008QR-Ui for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 09:50:51 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEgQd-0008QI-8c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 09:50:51 +0000 Received: from mx75.mail.ru ([94.100.176.90]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEgQb-0001N7-0x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 09:50:51 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=54662 helo=EFREMOV) by mx75.mail.ru with asmtp id 1NEgQU-0005We-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:50:42 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <003701ca70d9$6487b570$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: References: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AA67@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> <4B12205C.5020501@tut.by> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 09:49:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0030_01CA70D9.3BDBDFC0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01CA70D9.3BDBDFC0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Stefan, LF, Capture at 23.41. 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unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.248.107]) by out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 10 Nov 2009 18:17:56 +0000 Message-ID: <003801ca6232$239b5630$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <112811.74996.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:18:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0035_01CA6232.23621DC0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, LINES_OF_YELLING,LINES_OF_YELLING_2 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01CA6232.23621DC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dennis These Beacon Appliance unattended machine operators are causing QRM ga= lore to the Radio Amateur in QSO mode. The present band has insufficient bandwidth to accommodate unattended= beacon modes, with real time QSO'S one can avoid QRM or QRX until the= QRG is clear, whereas Beacons just belch out repeative gibberish and= the same persons respond via the reflector daily with the same old re= ports. You are quite right to make your point known.=20 73 de mal/g3kev =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 4:12 PM Subject: LF: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Congratulations Chris. Most wspr stations seem to congregate at the top end of the band and= are not too much trouble. Jim G7NKS is the biggest pain as he sits= on my xtl frequency and is so close. Maybe a compromise would be fo= r people using beacons to keep to one segment of the band (hopefully= not 502.2 kHz -hee) 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Chris Osborn=20 To: LF Group=20 Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 6:03 PM Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO LF It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 60= 0m. This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were= 600m / 80m. Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and= EI0CF - No. 998. QSO break-down according to mode: 928 CW, 34 RTTY and 5 QR= SS 600m STATIONS My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and= many of these go back to the start of the UK 600m allocation in Marc= h 2007. Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excludi= ng beacons). Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard= of again: G3KZU, G3YHV . . . Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT: G3UN= T, G3VTT, G4GDR. . . MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the= same stations many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of= my total contacts. My most frequently worked stations are: GW3UEP - 120 G3KEV - 102 M0FMT - 90 G3ZWH - 80 (al= as now SK) G3DXZ - 67 G4GDR - 60 EI0CF/ GI4DPE - 51 M0JXM= - 48 G3UNT - 45 G3VTT - 38 CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a= cross-band QSO: DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . . and our few EU MF friends are still active: ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . . WSPR ON 600m I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for= the WSPR mode was never achieved for hand sent Morse (CW), which aft= er all is the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF ma= rine band. If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stati= ons operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band= then I guess it may be time for me to QSY. 73 Chris G3XIZ ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01CA6232.23621DC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dennis
These Beacon Appliance unattended mac= hine operators=20 are causing QRM galore to the Radio Amateur in QSO mode.
The present band has insufficient ban= dwidth to=20 accommodate unattended beacon modes, with real time QSO'S one can avoi= d QRM or=20 QRX until the QRG is clear, whereas Beacons just belch out repeative= gibberish=20 and the same persons respond via the reflector daily with the same old= =20 reports.
You are quite right&nb= sp;to make=20 your point known.
73 de mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 10,= 2009 4:12=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: G3XIZ - 1000= th MF=20 QSO

Congratulations Chris.
 
Most wspr stations seem to congrega= te at the top=20 end of the band and are not too much trouble.    Jim G7NKS is the biggest pain as he= sits on my xtl frequency=20 and is so close.   Maybe a compromise would be for people= using=20 beacons to keep to one segment of the band (hopefully not 502.2 kHz= =20 -hee)
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Chr= is Osborn=20
Sent: Sunday, November 08,= 2009 6:03=20 PM
Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000= th MF=20 QSO

LF

It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000= th QSO=20 using 600m.
This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all= of which=20 were 600m / 80m.

Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners= up G3XPU=20 - No. 999 and EI0CF - No. 998.

QSO break-down according to= mode:=20     928 CW,  34 RTTY  and   5= =20 QRSS

600m=20 STATIONS

My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a= total of=20 59 stations and many of= these go back=20 to the start of the UK  600m allocation in March 2007.
Of= these I=20 have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding beacons)= .
Many=20 stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of= =20 again:  G3KZU, G3YHV . . .
Others were once very active bu= t have=20 subsequently gone QRT:  G3UNT, G3VTT, G4GDR. . .

MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED

With=20 so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the same= stations=20 many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of my total=20 contacts.
My most frequently worked stations are:

GW3UEP= -=20 120     G3KEV - 102    &nb= sp; M0FMT=20 - 90     G3ZWH  -  80  (alas no= w=20 SK)
G3DXZ    -   67   &= nbsp;=20 G4GDR -   60      EI0CF/ GI4DPE=  =20 -  51   M0JXM - 48
G3UNT    -&nbs= p; =20 45     G3VTT  -   38

CROSS-BAND AND EU=20 STATIONS

There are a few 'regular' stations who list= en to 600m=20 and enjoy a cross-band QSO:
DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE= , G3TVF .=20 . .

and our few EU MF friends are still active:
ON4KTJ,= OR7T and=20 OZ8NJ. . .

WSPR= ON=20 600m

I personally find it sad that the present level= of=20 enthusiasm for the WSPR mode was never achieved for  hand sen= t Morse=20 (CW), which after all is the mode which I call to mind when thinki= ng of the=20 old MF marine band.
If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with= more and=20 stronger stations operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which= is the=20 600m band then I guess it may be time for me to QSY.

73 Chris=20 G3XIZ







------=_NextPart_000_0035_01CA6232.23621DC0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db04.mx.aol.com (rly-db04.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.79]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB032-ac14b09ebdfcb; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:57:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB047-ac14b09ebdfcb; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:56:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCO9f-0007Gi-At for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:55:51 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCO9e-0007GZ-Lx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:55:50 +0000 Received: from col0-omc1-s2.col0.hotmail.com ([65.55.34.12]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCO9c-0007Lv-Ah for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:55:50 +0000 Received: from COL122-W31 ([65.55.34.9]) by col0-omc1-s2.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:55:38 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:55:37 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Nov 2009 01:55:38.0138 (UTC) FILETIME=[0DC597A0:01CA6BE0] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_c884762b-0e17-4cff-af5f-2e6f59c3dc50_" Subject: LF: MRC X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --_c884762b-0e17-4cff-af5f-2e6f59c3dc50_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_5d329a66-05f9-41eb-bf1a-8725512938be_" --_5d329a66-05f9-41eb-bf1a-8725512938be_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Joe, Rik, LF! MRC signal is as strong as EU QRSS station now. It is unbelievable! Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS **** BTW *** "The strong vertical lines are "made in Sweden" ;-)" Rik, where are this vertical lines in your grabber from? I saw somethink= similar here as well.=20 Those lines was very strong, periodic and they finished around the midnigh= t. =20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: Zjedodu=B9te si ka=BEdodenn=ED =FAkoly. Kter=FD po=E8=EDta=E8= je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD? http://windows.microsoft.com/shop=3D --_5d329a66-05f9-41eb-bf1a-8725512938be_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Joe, Rik, LF!
MRC signal is as strong as EU QRSS station now. It= is unbelievable!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

**** BTW ***
"The strong vertical lines are "made in Sweden" ;-)"

Rik, where ar= e this vertical lines in your grabber from? I saw somethink similar here= as well.
Those lines was very strong, periodic and they finished arou= nd the midnight.


 

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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:25:55 +0000 Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com ([205.188.105.144]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8DCB-0005SD-0X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:25:11 +0000 Received: from imo-da02.mx.aol.com (imo-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.200]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nABDPeP1004233 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:25:40 -0500 Received: from G4gvw@aol.com by imo-da02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id l.ca1.67636aed (56013) for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:25:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.64] ([92.23.134.203]) by cia-md07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMD077-dacd4afabb50189; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:25:37 -0500 From: pat gillen To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <31E46023A2704DF8A4431C0B44BAE495@Hugh> References: <001101ca621e$dcdc3380$96949a80$@princeton.edu> <20091110192309.4v8agotbs0k0gocs@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <004a01ca6249$d91531e0$8b3f95a0$@princeton.edu> <20091110222951.cr4qtrqagcwcowok@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <4AFAAE9C.1070304@ukonline.co.uk> <31E46023A2704DF8A4431C0B44BAE495@Hugh> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:25:36 +0000 Message-Id: <1257945936.10404.7.camel@pat-desktop-dell> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: G4gvw@aol.com X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Ferrite characteristics Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Peter, I tend to do something similar to Hugh but perhaps a little less "scientifically" viz.; When playing toroids etc. I determine which ones are successful for a particular application and use an LCR meter to measure the inductance of 5 turns of approx 14g copper and mark the toroid accordingly. My little stock is marked in this way and a note is made of the apps for which they were suitable (or in some cases unsuitable). I am sure there are much better ways but it gets me by. 73 de Pat g4gvw On Wed, 2009-11-11 at 12:55 +0000, Hugh_m0wye wrote: > Hi Peter, > In the past I have wound a few turns aound the core and measured the > Inductance. From this you can calculate the AL value, or "Inductance Factor" > in nH per turns squared. I measured the Inductance on an LCR meter, but you > could resonate the coil against a capacitor and use a GDO as you suggest. > > Number of turns = square root of (L / AL) where L is inductance in nH. > > From this you can compare to published figures, for example the RM series of > Ferrite cores (RS used to publish tables which included the AL value, in > their catalogues) > > 73 > Hugh M0WYE > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Dodd" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 12:31 PM > Subject: LF: Ferrite characteristics > > > > Does anyone know of a method of measuring the characteristics > > (permeability) of ferrite cores? I have a box of these most without any > > identification although I do have T200, 68-2T and T68-2s whose > > characteristics are known. > > > > It occurs to me that you can make a tuned circuit and measure resonance > > with a GDO when a ferrite core is inserted into the inductance. A graph > > could be made of the different resonances with different cores, to > > extrapolate the unknowns. > > > > However I think that ferrite bulk might be a problem. For example I guess > > the red T cores use the same material but would there be a difference > > between the T200 and the T68? > > > > I have lots of material about ferrites in general - I just want to know > > what I have in my junk box. I am not interested in exact measurements, I > > just want to know if a core is suitable for a specific job. > > > > Regards > > > > Peter, G3LDO > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc12.mx.aol.com (rly-mc12.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.96]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC023-daf4b003334249; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:58:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC127-daf4b003334249; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:58:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9iPf-0007mp-O5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:57:19 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9iPf-0007mg-3Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:57:19 +0000 Received: from mx27.mail.ru ([94.100.176.41]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9iPd-0000A3-Bh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:57:19 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=28077 helo=EFREMOV) by mx27.mail.ru with asmtp id 1N9iPX-000ESZ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:57:11 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <001601ca6614$a4c5b580$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: References: <029e01ca6536$28ca33e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:55:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: The American qrss-window on 500 khz Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello LF'ers, Somebody from the American HAM's works in the qrss-window 495.0-495.1 khz? 73 Andrey From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md04.mx.aol.com (rly-md04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.142]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMD031-8fa4b125b429a; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:30:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD042-8fa4b125b429a; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:30:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEhxp-0000Sj-L6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:29:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEhxp-0000Sa-5l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:29:13 +0000 Received: from out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.242]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEhxo-0001m0-JI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:29:13 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AugEAFLpEUtZ8b7P/2dsb2JhbACCUYtMBsR+hDEEgXI X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,307,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="275466436" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([89.241.190.207]) by out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 29 Nov 2009 11:29:04 +0000 Message-ID: <003001ca70e7$24aaf3a0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <2746F3E144D3480AB85CD466920B1313@lindavideo> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:28:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: 4kv diode Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002D_01CA70E7.246D0040" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01CA70E7.246D0040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Electric Chair Co Zapenda Cul de sac Hellda State Zip73 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ken=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:04 AM Subject: LF: 4kv diode=20 Hello All. I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or equivalent diode, BY4 4kv @ 1A,= BY6 6kv @ 1A, I have searched the web and looked in Farnell, any ide= as please. 73. Ken M0KHW =20 ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01CA70E7.246D0040 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Hello All.
I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or eq= uivalent=20 diode, BY4   4kv @ 1A, BY6  6kv @ 1A, I have searched= the web=20 and looked in Farnell, any ideas please.
 
73.
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Jetzt freischalten unter http://movieflat.web.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb11.mx.aol.com (rly-mb11.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.169]) by air-mb08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB083-d3c4b09210a3bc; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:31:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB118-d3c4b09210a3bc; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:31:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCAeD-0002BB-H1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:30:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCAeD-0002B2-5E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:30:29 +0000 Received: from mbox2.netikka.net ([213.250.81.203]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCAeB-0003ff-8X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:30:29 +0000 Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by mbox2.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E23408118 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:30:21 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 423A4495B9D for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:30:21 +0200 (EET) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:30:21 +0200 Message-ID: <1258889421.4b0920cd3e42f@imp.netikka.net> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:30:21 +0200 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: G3KEV calling CQ in CW on 137.0kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Mal, LF Great signal from you on 137.0kHz normal CW at 1125UTC here in Vaasa KP03S= D. Antenna is a PA0RDT Mini-Whip 10m AGL and IC-R75 with no CW filter, just= the PBT to keep the bandedge powerhouse signals out. 73 Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ Vaasa / KP03SD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df01.mx.aol.com (rly-df01.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.14]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF014-5264b0024dd182; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:57:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF013-5264b0024dd182; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:57:19 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9hSg-0007LN-UH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:56:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9hSg-0007LE-A5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:56:22 +0000 Received: from out1.ip02ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.238]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9hSe-0001bc-4F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:56:22 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqIEACOz/0pOlMUA/2dsb2JhbACCT4FqiVsGw3OEPAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,746,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="99213040" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.197.0]) by out1.ip02ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 15 Nov 2009 15:56:13 +0000 Message-ID: <041601ca660c$2c6b9850$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <9afca2640911150409x1389fd48q451284c2e0ee43d5@mail.gmail.com> <03a301ca65ee$020ae250$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <9afca2640911150509x387471dcxa7e5ffa73e8ec9cb@mail.gmail.com> <040901ca6609$73095250$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:56:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: G3XBM on CW at noon? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0413_01CA660C.2A617070" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0413_01CA660C.2A617070 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable PS G3XBM nw cq at 1550 utc. Other stns on band. Am I the only one that ca= n copy him ? g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: Roger Lapthorn=20 Cc: rsgb=20 Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 3:36 PM Subject: LF: Re: G3XBM on CW at noon? Pleased u made it to Scarborough, good Q5 but weak. No need for wspr= . Lots of other CW acty on band today, hpe u work some more. 73 gud dxing mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Roger Lapthorn=20 To: mal hamilton=20 Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 1:09 PM Subject: Re: G3XBM on CW at noon? Many thanks Mal for my very first 2-way 500kHz CW QSO. You've good= ears my friend! 73s Roger G3XBM 2009/11/15 mal hamilton Well Roger u made it to Scarborough on CW, solid copy Q5 but I= doubt if WSPR would have decoded your signal. Tnx the 569 good DX ing 73 de mal/g3kev=20 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Roger Lapthorn=20 To: g3kevmal@talktalk.net=20 Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 12:09 PM Subject: G3XBM on CW at noon? Think you may have heard me on 500kHz around noon Mal. You cal= led "QRZ G3X"several times but failed to get me. Will try again. 73s Roger G3XBM (2mW ERP) --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.65/2503 - Release Da= te: 11/14/09 19:42:00 --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 ----------------------------------------------------------------------= ------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.65/2503 - Release Date:= 11/14/09 19:42:00 ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.65/2503 - Release Date: 11= /14/09 19:42:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0413_01CA660C.2A617070 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
PS
G3XBM nw cq at 1550 utc. Other stns= on band. Am I=20 the only one that can copy him ?
g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mal=20 hamilton
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 20= 09 3:36=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: G3XBM on CW= at=20 noon?

Pleased u made it to Scarborough,= good Q5 but=20 weak. No need for wspr. Lots of other CW acty on band today, hpe u= work some=20 more.
73 gud dxing mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 15,= 2009 1:09=20 PM
Subject: Re: G3XBM on CW at= noon?

Many thanks Mal for my very first 2-way 500kHz CW= QSO. You've=20 good ears my friend!

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/11/15 mal hamilton &= lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.ne= t>
Well Roger u made it to Scarbor= ough on CW,=20 solid copy Q5 but I doubt if WSPR would have decoded y= our=20 signal.
Tnx the 569
good DX ing
73 de mal/g3kev 
  
-----=20 Original Message -----
From:=20 Roger Lapthorn
Sent:=20 Sunday, November 15, 2009 12:09 PM
Subject:=20 G3XBM on CW at noon?

Think you may have heard me on 500kHz ar= ound noon=20 Mal. You called "QRZ G3X"several times but failed to get me.
Will=20 try again.

73s
Roger G3XBM (2mW ERP)
=
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http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.= g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM    GQRP 1678=20      ISWL G11088


No virus found in this incoming message.
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------=_NextPart_000_000C_01CA5C8A.FDE3AFC0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc01.mx.aol.com (rly-mc01.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.85]) by air-mc06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC063-d584b00b6bc274; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:19:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC018-d584b00b6bc274; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:19:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9rAz-0003nd-3r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:18:45 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9rAy-0003nU-HZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:18:44 +0000 Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com ([205.188.105.143]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9rAv-0003KH-A0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:18:44 +0000 Received: from imo-da04.mx.aol.com (imo-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.202]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nAG2IU0Y019602 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:18:30 -0500 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-da04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id l.d5d.4f44af6a (39332) for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:18:24 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:18:24 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: F4DTL@aol.com X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: VX9MRC beacon Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_d5d.4f44af6a.38321070_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --part1_d5d.4f44af6a.38321070_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1258337903" -------------------------------1258337903 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Joe, nice copy tonite. F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC7400 Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010 _http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/) -------------------------------1258337903 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Joe, nice copy tonite.
 
 
F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP
RX : Icom IC7400
Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010

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cqoayyMVM1luz7W1pM9IlFkDR7juebLfYGwQDbxlimD6ubE3Bg9Wip7Ge2eMXTEi8T8GzNi1iXMURYGxaZq.WHei9FIU8eRIOLavECiqqz40kG_NOf_t9ZDOO0PghLr0TMS8dkTsu1F5cCdhawNZbfXvOa6wK4pxiEGMyIrfTRtoA9PkIa6h2OS_M1urmUgLkDO0yELW9Cx501jkITSQ1RGoinfstVEtAlPYmzat6V1q8y7wfOdqpWwhAO173eHIJFNUvOPchhnaQZfwjw_V2ySSwOeKGzQQe5LIK2wGswPfSaGiV79MXGYhnrN5hhaWs3UGCCAoTSIYKbi2ZB4- Received: from [97.89.42.135] by web63604.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:11:23 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:11:23 -0800 (PST) From: Andy - KU4XR To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <785212.33618.qm@web28105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR BEACONS - Carrier topic Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d259.1 ; domain : yahoo.com DKIM : pass Hello all: Mal made reference to the WSPR carriers coming on, and going off as a source of QRM to the CW OPs. I'm curious; how much bandwidth does a carrier occupy ??? Further, a modulated carrier with the intelligence 1,500 cycles from the carrier center ferquency ??? Which carrier would produce the most adjacent frequency QRM; a 100 watt WSPR carrier, or a 100 watt 20 Wpm CW carrier ??? Does the On/Off repition rate of the carrier itself coupled with the power transmitted determine the bandwidth occupied ??? Who really causes QRM to a close by station with a strong signal??? Most WSPR OPs are low power; Many CW OPs are " as high as they can get it ". The issue of carrier related QRM is only related to a strong nearby signal that affects receiver AGC. Weak signals are of insignificant occurence. Using a 500 Hz CW filter; how far " Down " in dB's would WSPR tones be attenuated if you're operating 100 Hz away from the WSPR carrier ??? Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN. LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 185.29866 KHz ( QRSS-60 ) Coordinates: N: 35* 43' 54" - W: 84* 3' 16" http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME012-99e4b07c591144; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:48:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME022-99e4b07c591144; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:48:51 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBnUp-00040h-Ix for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:47:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBnUp-00040Y-3x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:47:15 +0000 Received: from smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com ([195.200.78.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBnUn-00082u-5c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:47:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 28298 invoked by uid 507); 21 Nov 2009 11:46:58 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO JR) (john.rabson@numeo.fr@217.67.155.178) by smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 2009 11:46:58 +0100 Message-ID: <200911211147020937.19DC740F@smtp2.numeo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:47:02 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: F8BOJ 40dB and G3XDV 20-30dB over noise on 137 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 At 1043z. John Rabson F5VLF 58800 Cervon France JN17vg From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (rly-mf06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.176]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF104-9654af4aac33c; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:01:28 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF063-9654af4aac33c; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:01:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6Xn3-0007AD-Ph for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:00:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6Xn3-0007A4-C7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:00:21 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6Xlw-00010s-8F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:59:13 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 06 Nov 2009 23:00:13 -0000 Received: from p5DD343BB.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO Clemens04) [93.211.67.187] by mail.gmx.net (mp062) with SMTP; 07 Nov 2009 00:00:13 +0100 X-Authenticated: #17214767 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX189fsd8QH49EhyJ6ge7b4sCnJ9kZ4XtkemtlU5Hcr DRosnQ+hLLMwAn Message-ID: <011501ca5f34$e615b1c0$0201a8c0@Clemens04> From: "Clemens Paul" To: References: <9afca2640911061357g15160968m9f249ed8aaeb6184@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 00:00:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.53,0.53 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: SM6BHZ on 500kHz WSPR tonight? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0111_01CA5F3D.462FC520" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0111_01CA5F3D.462FC520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gus is on air,very strong as usual, but running 100%TX ! 73 Clemens DL4RAJ ----- Original Message ----- From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 10:57 PM Subject: LF: SM6BHZ on 500kHz WSPR tonight? Anyone know if Gus is planning to be on 500kHz WSPR tonight? I'm hoping that he will (at last) decode me if he does appear. BTW, two new reporters this evening PA0AM and G4CAO - thanks to both. 73s Roger G3XBM -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.52/2484 - Release Date: 11/06/09 07:38:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0111_01CA5F3D.462FC520 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Gus is on air,very strong as usual,&n= bsp;but=20 running 100%TX !
 
73
Clemens
DL4RAJ
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 06, 20= 09 10:57=20 PM
Subject: LF: SM6BHZ on 500kHz= WSPR=20 tonight?

Anyone know if Gus is planning to be on 500kHz WSPR= tonight?=20 I'm hoping that he will (at last) decode me if he does appear.
<= BR>BTW,=20 two new reporters this evening PA0AM and G4CAO - thanks to=20 both.

73s
Roger G3XBM
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G3XBM  =20  GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088


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------=_NextPart_000_0111_01CA5F3D.462FC520-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG054-a1c4af816901dd; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:18:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG066-a1c4af816901dd; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:18:10 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7U7B-0003o2-A7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:17:01 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7U7A-0003nt-OY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:17:00 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7U78-00030y-6W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:17:00 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id B06DB51C006 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:16:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from PC_van_Rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-106.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.106]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B8431E702 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:16:50 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:17:03 +0100 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <003c01ca6136$e1f55380$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> References: <007a01ca60eb$9cb96fe0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <20091109090454.6C38331E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <003c01ca6136$e1f55380$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091109131650.A8B8431E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500 kHz TA report Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jay, in WSPR I run about 50 Watt. Estimated ERP is about 0.2 Watt. For CW I have a 250 Watt transmitter, so my ERP should be about 1 Watt. I cannot use the big TX for WSPR as it needs to be driven at the double frequency (that is divided by 2 and so provides the 180 degrees shifted signals to drive the push-pull PA). I intend to build new a 300 or 400 W PA that can be driven directly at 500kHz, when time permits. All WSPR reports I received from AA1A, K1JT and VE1VDM were between 22:00 and 22:30 UTC. So this seems a good moment. Before trying a 2-way contact I would like to check if I can hear you. But as said, I cannot spend all evening at the station and therefor would appreciate it to know in advance when I have to listen, either for you or for other US / Canadian stations. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T At 12:29 9/11/2009, you wrote: >Rik > >Yes...EI0CF has perhaps the ideal location. Likewise VE1ZZ (VX9ZZZ) >has an excellent location on >this end. Unfortunately I'm well inland but at least on a 'mountain' >with a good view of the distant >horizon but with some trees. > >I've been unable to receive your WSPR signal thus far although I've >only watched a few times that >you've been active. SM6BHZ is the only station that is 'routine' >copy. Assume you were running full >power in that mode? If there is no reception on WSPR the chances for >cw to make it through are >virtually nil. Will keep an eye on your WSPR signal. Once that gets >logged we can proceed to cw. > >The WE2XGR/2 cw beacon runs many evenings on 506.5 kHz. With the >successesful early evening contacts >with Finbar I'll start it earlier - about 2200 - 2230Z. >Unfortunately, there are grabbers in the US >that could be used as an indicator but they are often parked on a >different part of the band. Also >keep an eye open for WE2XGR/6 on 507.3 kHz. Bob is currently running >about 3 dB more power than I am >and routinely shows up on G4WGT grabber...my signal shows up somewhat less. > >Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 >506.5 kHz > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Rik Strobbe" >To: >Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:05 AM >Subject: Re: LF: 500 kHz TA report > > > > Hello Jay, > > > > congrats on the QSO with Finbar. > > His QTH is almost perfect for 500kHz (close to the ocean, almost > no obstacles) in contradiction to > > my QTH (inland, lot's of trees). > > But I am interested in a CW QSO with you, could you drop a > message (to the reflector) when you are > > QRV ? > > I have rather limited time for the hobby, most evenings I cannot > spend all time listening. > > > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > > > At 04:20 9/11/2009, you wrote: > >>500 kHz TA enthusiasts > >> > >>Suprisingly good TA conditions of late. Had nice QSO (cw) with > Finbar, EI0CF, last night and again > >>tonight with good signals reports both directions. These QSOs are > about a month earlier than those > >>of the past two years. Not sure if it's conditions or that we > just didn't attempt it early enough > >>last year. > >> > >>Jack, VX9ZZZ in Nova Scotia has also been in QSO with Finbar and > reports hearing other EU stations > >>besides Finbar even well before his sunset. I've heard Jack > calling CQ evenings starting around NS > >>sunset on 504 kHz and he tunes the band looking for answers. > >> > >>Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > >>506.5 kHz > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC074-b3c4af6717c2dc; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 02:21:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC088-b3c4af6717c2dc; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 02:21:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N724L-0004Ud-4d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:20:13 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N724K-0004UU-J0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:20:12 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f211.google.com ([209.85.220.211]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N724G-0002lm-W6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:20:12 +0000 Received: by fxm3 with SMTP id 3so687063fxm.4 for ; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:20:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=ZXueK4RFMsi8W/11Q+eTlTwQjb8LRNnyTciz7ZgW3Nc=; b=vFJ0wMiYE+E56/tQkbqfayoh3wwPaT3yIeSUqhS4JJesG5J6Sf8awLEFDn3p2yfcUc 1sADQoINIhoL57rt7BepUpZi9U5kq2iMtuIzNP3Gy0WaClV1qCg1a3FuIE+mg47j1tJ/ riTiUiShB2ihkbee/CN4PEu3hJXXrSs25JQOA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=tBF+ymoQjn7KO1g+/s4v+laD+jajQUDqAFYEuOIbSBSqd0ZUqdm52YOiXJ8wQzMskC MKP6d2mUe1RcuANu8ST8g9vtg+AWie3gaklhvTnvmNMlNEwBftbJu3Bd3nt87kH98Zaj cz4qTxb72KagmfMBTQMEXLX3IxTO14Xo/FUqk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.155.73 with SMTP id r9mr6762725bkw.14.1257664803230; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:20:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 07:20:03 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911072320q7670eef0r8d6de016e2ad4ffc@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, GQRP@yahoogroups.com, Michael Rainey , Jonathan Griffiths , M0BXT , John P-G , k1jt@arrl.net, Jon Bigwood , John Chapman DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: LF: My tiny <2mW ERP 500kHz WSPR station reaches Sweden! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175cfa8ed7d3360477d6e7c5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d232.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0015175cfa8ed7d3360477d6e7c5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi All, SM6BHZ heard me, at last, on 500kHz WSPR at 0556z this morning, so my best DX has now gone up to 951kms with the tiny station. 2009-11-08 05:56 G3XBM 0.503896 -26 0 JO02dg 0.002 *SM6BHZ* JO57wq 951 46 Gus, thank you *so* much for country number 6 on the band and Joe K1JT for designing the software to make this possible. 73s Roger G3XBM -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --0015175cfa8ed7d3360477d6e7c5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All,

SM6BHZ heard me, at last, on 500kHz WSPR at 0556z this morn= ing, so my best DX has now gone up to 951kms with the tiny station.
 
Hi Graham n group
 
Just mail Tony Parks details and costs at......... http://www.kb9yig.com/ =
 
Gl 73 petefmt

--- On Thu, 19/11/09, Graham <= ;g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.= co.uk>=20 wrote:

From:=20 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Subject:=20 LF: Soft Rock for 500 Khz where to buy ??
To: rsgb_lf_group@blackshee= p.org
Date:=20 Thursday, 19 November, 2009, 23:29

All .
 
Where  can a Soft Rock= rx for =20 500  Khz be  purchased from ./
 
Or  do  you = need =20 to  modify a 455 Khz version for 500 ?
If so .. where from a 455khz= version=20 ?
 
Tnx-
 
Graham ..=20


=A02009-11-08 05:56=A0=A0G3XBM=A0=A00.503896=A0 =A0-26=A0=A00=A0=A0JO02dg=A0 =A00.002=A0=A0SM6BHZ=A0=A0JO57wq=A0 =A0951=A0=A046=A0

Gus, thank you so muc= h for country number 6 on the band and Joe K1JT for designing the software= to make this possible.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088
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For determining the µrel of an unknown toroid you wind a few turns on it,measure the inductance,enter the inductance and the physical dimensions of the core into the program and it gives you all you want to know including µrel. And the results are really correct. Very handy with Amidon toroids,too. 73 Clemens DL4RAJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Dodd" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 1:31 PM Subject: LF: Ferrite characteristics > Does anyone know of a method of measuring the characteristics (permeability) of ferrite > cores? I have a box of these most without any identification although I do have T200, 68-2T > and T68-2s whose characteristics are known. > > It occurs to me that you can make a tuned circuit and measure resonance with a GDO when a > ferrite core is inserted into the inductance. A graph could be made of the different > resonances with different cores, to extrapolate the unknowns. > > However I think that ferrite bulk might be a problem. For example I guess the red T cores > use the same material but would there be a difference between the T200 and the T68? > > I have lots of material about ferrites in general - I just want to know what I have in my > junk box. I am not interested in exact measurements, I just want to know if a core is > suitable for a specific job. > > Regards > > Peter, G3LDO > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg11.mx.aol.com (rly-dg11.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.95]) by air-dg02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG022-6044b0165a133; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:46:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG115-6044b0165a133; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:45:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA2ol-00060j-FY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:44:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA2ok-00060a-SN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:44:34 +0000 Received: from imr-db01.mx.aol.com ([205.188.91.95]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA2oj-0000kX-7k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:44:34 +0000 Received: from imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (imo-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.138]) by imr-db01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nAGEiFrw012013 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:44:15 -0500 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id l.d05.6719a07c (29673) for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:44:10 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:44:08 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: F4DTL@aol.com X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: WE2XGR/6 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_d05.6719a07c.3832bf38_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --part1_d05.6719a07c.3832bf38_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1258382647" -------------------------------1258382647 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Jim, F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC7400 Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010 -------------------------------1258382647 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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unimlyn) by mail.toya.net.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CCA1620000085 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:47:24 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4AF7588C.60605@toya.net.pl> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:47:24 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGlvdHIgTcWCeW5hcnNraQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <112811.74996.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <112811.74996.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020609070801010603030904" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------020609070801010603030904 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Osborn wrote: > LF > > It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m. > This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 600m > / 80m. > > > I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for the > WSPR mode was never achieved for hand sent Morse (CW), which after > all is the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF > marine band. > If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stations > operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band then > I guess it may be time for me to QSY. > > 73 Chris G3XIZ > Dear Chris, LF group Congratulations for such a remarkable achievement. it just happend that few days ago i also had my red-letter day but it was my FIRST cross-band qso on 600 meter with Mal, G3KEV . Well, in some way, kind of similarity with respect to the time stamp of those red-letter days and what a BIG difference in the number of qso , hi :) acoording to the wspr issue... the MF band ( not to mention the 136 khz ) due to the official regulations with respect to the ERP power as well as due to the small efficiency of antenna systems is regarded as a 'weak signal band' so , it is not surprising that modern digital communication techniques with very efficient coding come into play.. it must be noted, that wspr gave ( and still does) enormous information about propagation issues , really sets the 'limits' of TX pwr where one can detect (positively decode information) thousands km away ( it is remarkable ,btw) Also, it allows greater number of hams to be active in some way on this band. In my opinion, one should also realize that behind all those 'weak signal mods' there is a beautiful piece of mathematics involved. Of course, there is a price for it. - it is not a qso -like mode contrary to CW or qrss(n) Personaly, i would welcome more stns working/beaconing qrss(n) where the possibility of making qso contact is obviously greater. i did make qso with Mal because i saw/heard him in a qso mode. I also believe that as the time progresses and more countries are allowed to work on this band there will be more live contacts on 500 kcs so Chris DO NOT QSY and for the time being we must all agree on this some sort of coexistence between qso-like and non-qso mods on lf/mf bands 73 de Piotr, sq7mpj qth: Lodz /jo91rs/ --------------020609070801010603030904 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chris Osborn wrote:
LF

It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m.
This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 600m / 80m.


I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for the WSPR mode was never achieved for=C2=A0 hand sent Morse (CW), which after= all is the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF marine band.
If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stations operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band then I guess it may be time for me to QSY.

73 Chris G3XIZ

Dear Chris, LF group
Congratulations for such a remarkable achievement. it just happend that few days ago i=C2=A0 also had my red-letter day
=C2=A0 but it was my FIRST=C2=A0 cross-band qso on 600 meter with Mal,=C2= =A0 G3KEV .
Well, in some way, kind of similarity with respect to the=C2=A0 time stamp of those red-letter days=C2=A0 and what a BIG difference=C2=A0 in the numb= er of qso , hi :)

acoording to the wspr issue...=C2=A0 the MF band=C2=A0 ( not to mention th= e 136 khz )=C2=A0 due to the official regulations=C2=A0 with respect to the ERP= =C2=A0 power as well as due to the small efficiency of=C2=A0 antenna systems is=C2=A0= regarded as a=C2=A0 'weak signal band' so , it is not surprising=C2=A0 that modern= digital communication techniques=C2=A0 with very efficient coding=C2=A0 come into= play.. it must be noted, that wspr gave ( and still does) enormous information=C2=A0 about propagation issues , really sets the 'limits'=C2= =A0 of TX pwr where one can detect (positively decode information) thousands km away ( it is remarkable ,btw)=C2=A0 Also, it allows greater number of=C2= =A0=C2=A0 hams to be=C2=A0 active in some way on this band.
In my opinion, one should also realize=C2=A0 that=C2=A0 behind all those= =C2=A0 'weak signal mods'=C2=A0 there is a beautiful piece of mathematics involved. Of course, there is a price for it. - it is not a qso -like mode contrary to CW or qrss(n)=C2=A0 Personaly, i would welcome more stns working/beaconing qrss(n) where the possibility of making=C2=A0 qso contac= t is obviously greater. i did make qso with Mal because i saw/heard him in a qso mode. I also believe that as the time progresses and more countries are allowed to work on this band=C2=A0 there will be more live contacts on 500 kcs so Chris=C2=A0 DO NOT QSY=C2=A0=C2=A0 and for the time= being we must all agree on=C2=A0 this some sort of coexistence between=C2=A0 qso-li= ke=C2=A0 and non-qso mods on=C2=A0 lf/mf bands

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--------------020609070801010603030904-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD023-b614aed7dde30e; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 07:24:06 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD023-b614aed7dde30e; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 07:24:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N4ZSP-0004Cv-UM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:22:53 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N4ZSP-0004Cm-Gw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:22:53 +0000 Received: from psmtp31.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.33]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N4ZSB-0006vE-51 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:22:41 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp31.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KSF00I4VJPJ31@psmtp31.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 13:22:31 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 13:22:25 +0100 From: henny van elst To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <4AED7637.1040008@inext.at> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: test cpm Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-15; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 tu Ossi,this is the ropex with only one freq,so Ilook for another cristal,this is the wrong freq.,but I work on it, best 73s henny pa3cpm. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oberreiter Oswald" To: Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 12:51 PM Subject: LF: test cpm > hallo henny LF > test cpm > good signal on 136.550 15 dB o.Nois > 73 de ossi > oe5odl jn68rd > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.42/2473 - Release Date: 10/31/09 21:14:00 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df11.mx.aol.com (rly-df11.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.24]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF014-58b4b08419818e; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:38:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF114-58b4b08419818e; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:38:01 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBvle-0000d2-GX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:37:10 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBvle-0000cs-3k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:37:10 +0000 Received: from out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.243]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBvlc-0002YU-As for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:37:10 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAGbQB0tZ8f80/2dsb2JhbADTX4Q8BA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,264,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="245025354" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([89.241.255.52]) by out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 21 Nov 2009 19:36:44 +0000 Message-ID: <00a101ca6ae1$f4bccc00$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <4B07ABA4.4060102@online.fr> <4B082AE0.80607@usa.net> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:36:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Every one else is WRONG except Andy g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" To: Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 7:06 PM Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO And usually based on lack of understanding / ignorance or even prejudice. Andy www.g4jnt.com This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health and safety police 2009/11/21 Alberto di Bene : >> Of course it’s a new and exciting technology, but I doubt that it is on >> one >>> >>> and the same level with a regular exchange and therefore should not be >>> considered equally verifying a valid contact. > > Shades of the recurring and silly debates that every now and then happen on > the Moon-net reflector... > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (rly-ma02.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.46]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA014-8904b0663d7200; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:39:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA022-8904b0663d7200; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:39:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBPwi-00059G-2B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:38:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBPwh-000597-Mn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:38:27 +0000 Received: from out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.243]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBPwh-00067D-0n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:38:27 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap0EAFPyBUtOlrfA/2dsb2JhbACCUYs0BsZJhDsE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,776,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="241147248" Received: from unknown (HELO your91hoehfy9g) ([78.150.183.192]) by out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 20 Nov 2009 09:38:16 +0000 Message-ID: <002001ca69c5$320a73a0$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:38:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 137 DX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001D_01CA69C5.31CECA30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01CA69C5.31CECA30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LF GRP Is there enought acty on this band to justify the effort of getting st= arted. Years ago there was over 30 countries active on cw on the band. I have= 1w erp available and would like to work some dx de mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01CA69C5.31CECA30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_001D_01CA69C5.31CECA30-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (rly-ma07.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.51]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA054-8bd4aff3a8c1ee; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:17:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA077-8bd4aff3a8c1ee; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:17:33 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9RrJ-0001vJ-Dm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:16:45 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9RrJ-0001vA-2j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:16:45 +0000 Received: from smarthost4.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.14]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9RrH-0006mB-9L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:16:45 +0000 Received: from bb-87-82-18-46.ukonline.co.uk ([87.82.18.46] helo=[192.168.0.3]) by smarthost4.mail.uk.easynet.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N9RrG-000KAK-S4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:16:42 +0000 Message-ID: <4AFF3A89.50604@ukonline.co.uk> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:17:29 +0000 From: Peter Dodd User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <287859382.1258239176.158750212.87677@mcgi38.rambler.ru> In-Reply-To: <287859382.1258239176.158750212.87677@mcgi38.rambler.ru> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Grabber is ON Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Roman. 501.05kHz Peter, G3LDO > > My grabber started on up to finished your activity. > qrss.nm.ru -> grabber. > Looking to 501.2-501.36 and 502.0 > Whats a real freq, Peter? > > -- > Roman RW3ADB. > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v125.8) with ESMTP id MAILINMG032-9ff4aee032f29e; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 16:52:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG031-9ff4aee032f29e; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 16:52:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N4iKX-0002JE-S7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 21:51:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N4iKX-0002J5-EK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 21:51:21 +0000 Received: from mcgi72.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.209]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N4iIz-0002rB-QH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 21:49:46 +0000 Received: from mcgi72.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi72.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 129B811576 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 00:51:15 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [81.195.14.9] by mcgi72.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Mon, 02 Nov 2009 00:51:09 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: rsgb Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 00:51:09 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <276313556.1257112269.46863176.15766@mcgi72.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: SM6BGP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Gunnar, LF! Looked your trace when my grabber started. I got solid copy BGP into mode-3 now: http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/2nov2009_SM6BGP/499.6W2_3_00020.jpg 73! -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc10.mx.aol.com (rly-mc10.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.94]) by air-mc06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC064-d9b4af8b8ca36e; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:50:28 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC103-d9b4af8b8ca36e; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:50:19 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7euv-0005GW-AO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:49:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7euu-0005GN-Qd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:49:04 +0000 Received: from mcgi73.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.210]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7eu4-0002vC-Ao for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:48:13 +0000 Received: from mcgi73.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi73.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6CAB11576 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:48:56 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [81.195.13.137] by mcgi73.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:48:56 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:48:56 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <112811.74996.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-Id: <214987839.1257814136.90194536.38791@mcgi73.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Congratulations, Chris! Whats time we are make a 1001 QSO x-band 502 kHz/7030 khz? Roman * Chris Osborn [Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:03:17 +0000 (GMT)]: > LF > > It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m. > This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 600m / > 80m. > > Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0CF > - No. 998. > > QSO break-down according to mode: 928 CW, 34 RTTY and 5 QRSS > > 600m STATIONS > > My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many > of these go back to the start of the UK 600m allocation in March 2007. > Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding > beacons). > Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of > again: G3KZU, G3YHV . . . > Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT: G3UNT, > G3VTT, G4GDR. . . > > MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED > > With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the same > stations many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of my total > contacts. > My most frequently worked stations are: > > GW3UEP - 120 G3KEV - 102 M0FMT - 90 G3ZWH - 80 (alas now > SK) > G3DXZ - 67 G4GDR - 60 EI0CF/ GI4DPE - 51 M0JXM - 48 > G3UNT - 45 G3VTT - 38 > > CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS > > There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a > cross-band QSO: > DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . . > > and our few EU MF friends are still active: > ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . . > > WSPR ON 600m > > I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for the > WSPR mode was never achieved for hand sent Morse (CW), which after all > is the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF marine > band. > If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stations > operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band then I > guess it may be time for me to QSY. > > 73 Chris G3XIZ > > > -- Roman RW3ADB. 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[fistscw] [OT]Rowley Shears,= G8KW, SK

Thursday, 19= November, 2009 15:01
From:
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Rowley Shears, G8KW, SK

The RSGB has learned with great sadnes= s that Rowley Shears BEM, G8KW, passed
away on Tuesday 17 November 2009= . Responsible for re-introducing amateur radio
into Germany after the= second world war, he was perhaps best known for his KW
range of amateu= r equipment from the 1950s to the 1970s. Through KW Electronics
and the= KW2000 transceiver, he was largely responsible for popularising SSB inthe British amateur community. Rowley passed away peacefully at the ripe= old age
of 90.

 2009-11-14 23:14   OR2ELN   0.503908   -33   0   MF03   501   G0NBD   IO83   11740   326 
 
Just  decoded ?
 
tnx - G
 


------=_NextPart_000_000D_01CA6584.FE5EE200-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df03.mx.aol.com (rly-df03.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.16]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDF053-53b4b13aa87245; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 06:20:50 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF034-53b4b13aa87245; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 06:20:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NF4IN-00064s-VV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:19:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NF4IN-00064f-8T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:19:55 +0000 Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com ([205.188.105.147]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NF4IJ-0008Pv-QL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:19:55 +0000 Received: from imo-da04.mx.aol.com (imo-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.202]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nAUBJZKP032740 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 06:19:35 -0500 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-da04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id l.c23.67d3fa2c (43999) for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 06:19:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from Black (g229164008.adsl.alicedsl.de [92.229.164.8]) by cia-dd06.mx.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILCIADD068-abdf4b13aa439f; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 06:19:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCC9C19DE674B15A385181E7EFC37C1@Black> From: "Markus Vester" To: Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:19:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16669 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: MarkusVester@aol.com X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Grabber improvements Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002A_01CA71B7.5E015560" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01CA71B7.5E015560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear LF Group, my LF colour-DF grabber has recently become five years old, and I felt= it could do with a little refurbishment. It now updates more frequent= ly, the fullband window scrolls slightly faster and shows a wider QRSS= strip. I hope you may find this useful. The URL is still the same http://freenet-homepage.de/df6nm/Grabber.htm , and there is a mirror at http://www.alice-dsl.net/df6nm/grabber/Grabber.htm . 73 de Markus, DF6NM ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01CA71B7.5E015560 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear LF Group,
 
my LF colour-DF grabber has rece= ntly=20 become five years old, and I felt it could do with a=20 little refurbishment. It now updates more frequently,= the=20 fullband window scrolls slightly faster and shows a wider QRSS=20 strip. I hope you&nbs= p;may find this=20 useful.
 
The URL is still the same
and there is a mirror at
 
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(VPS 091117-0, 17-11-2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 3.6 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Fw: LF: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Holy Mother! Henrique - CT1HX IM58gr ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 2:49 PM Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6 > Party to an offence? > > Warren Ziegler wrote: >> Lighten up Scott! >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Scott Tilley wrote: >> >>> The first illegal ON-VX QSO. >>> >>> >>> >>> Rik Strobbe wrote: >>> >>>> Gary, All, >>>> >>>> yesterday I could copy VX9MRC in QRSS3 with a surprising strong signal >>>> as >>>> early as 18 UTC, when I launched Argo. >>>> Throughout the evening the signal was strong and with little QSB from >>>> 19-22UTC, after that the signal became weaker with much more QSB. >>>> Probably because I had a sked with Joe at 22:40 UTC ;-) . >>>> But despite all we managed to complete the QSO with both way M report >>>> (would have been a solid O earlier the evening). >>>> A first ON-VE QSO on 500kHz and with +/- 4075km a new DX record for me >>>> Joe transmitted on 507.770 and I on 501.190. >>>> Between 19 and 22 UTC the signal was audible most of the time and would >>>> have been CW copy if it were not squeezed between the NDB "Z" carrier >>>> at >>>> 507.980 (S9+ here) the SM6BHZ CW/SSB test transmissions (up to S9) and >>>> a >>>> local birdie on 507.600. >>>> >>>> For the QSO I was running 300W into my 11m high / 25m long lazy-L >>>> antenna, >>>> estimated ERP about 1.5 Watt (at best, if the greenery does not absorb >>>> too >>>> much) >>>> >>>> The night from Sunday - Monday I left Argo running, VX9MRC produced a >>>> good signal all through the night and faded out at 07UTC. This would >>>> mean >>>> that there is a potential transatlantic path on 500kHz for 13h a day >>>> !!! >>>> >>>> 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >>>> >>>> At 17:05 16/11/2009, you wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi All, >>>>> >>>>> Good signals from both stations last night. >>>>> >>>>> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db02.mx.aol.com (rly-db02.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.77]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB083-ab14b0274ba16c; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:02:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB027-ab14b0274ba16c; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:02:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAKsS-0001Ua-NK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:01:36 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAKsS-0001UR-3U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:01:36 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAKsQ-0006M0-DT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:01:36 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F1B07B8056 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:01:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from PC_van_Rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-106.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.106]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC59031E704 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:01:00 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:01:01 +0100 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <1f0624b90911170146i3b3201abh55b54fd75e56fa50@mail.gmail.co m> References: <1f0624b90911160805u4435bd18ue805924594d8b997@mail.gmail.com> <20091117081718.BDD6EF3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> <1f0624b90911170146i3b3201abh55b54fd75e56fa50@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091117100100.CC59031E704@smtps01.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_10_20=0.945,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_8302466==.ALT" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --=====================_8302466==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Gary, sure. Condx were very poor during our QSO. If propagation is good (as it was from 20-22UTC) far less than 1 Watt ERP might do the job. In addition you are most likely at a better location for VO in the north of England. Few days ago Finbar worked Joe in CW with 559-579 reports while i could barely hear Joe. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T At 10:46 17/11/2009, you wrote: >Rik, > >Well done. > >I should be in a position to attempt the same as I saw solid QRS >signals from Joe. > >Gary - G4WGT. > >2009/11/17 Rik Strobbe ><rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> >Gary, All, > >yesterday I could copy VX9MRC in QRSS3 with a surprising strong >signal as early as 18 UTC, when I launched Argo. >Throughout the evening the signal was strong and with little QSB >from 19-22UTC, after that the signal became weaker with much more QSB. >Probably because I had a sked with Joe at 22:40 UTC ;-) . >But despite all we managed to complete the QSO with both way M >report (would have been a solid O earlier the evening). >A first ON-VE QSO on 500kHz and with +/- 4075km a new DX record for me >Joe transmitted on 507.770 and I on 501.190. >Between 19 and 22 UTC the signal was audible most of the time and >would have been CW copy if it were not squeezed between the NDB "Z" >carrier at 507.980 (S9+ here) the SM6BHZ CW/SSB test transmissions >(up to S9) and a local birdie on 507.600. > >For the QSO I was running 300W into my 11m high / 25m long lazy-L >antenna, estimated ERP about 1.5 Watt (at best, if the greenery does >not absorb too much) > >The night from Sunday - Monday I left Argo running, VX9MRC produced >a good signal all through the night and faded out at 07UTC. This >would mean that there is a potential transatlantic path on 500kHz >for 13h a day !!! > >73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > >At 17:05 16/11/2009, you wrote: >Hi All, > >Good signals from both stations last night. > >Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo. > > > --=====================_8302466==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Gary,

sure.
Condx were very poor during our QSO.
If propagation is good (as it was from 20-22UTC) far less than 1 Watt ERP might do the job.
In addition you are most likely at a better location for VO in the north of England.
Few days ago Finbar worked Joe in CW with 559-579 reports while i could barely hear Joe.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

At 10:46 17/11/2009, you wrote:
Rik,

Well done.

I should be in a position to attempt the same as I saw solid QRS signals from Joe.

Gary - G4WGT.

2009/11/17 Rik Strobbe < rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
Gary, All,

yesterday I could copy VX9MRC in QRSS3 with a surprising strong signal as early as 18 UTC, when I launched Argo.
Throughout the evening the signal was strong and with little QSB from 19-22UTC, after that the signal became weaker with much more QSB.
Probably because I had a sked with Joe at 22:40 UTC ;-) .
But despite all we managed to complete the QSO with both way M report (would have been a solid O earlier the evening).
A first ON-VE QSO on 500kHz and with +/- 4075km a new DX record for me
Joe transmitted on 507.770 and I on 501.190.
Between 19 and 22 UTC the signal was audible most of the time and would have been CW copy if it were not squeezed between the NDB "Z" carrier at 507.980 (S9+ here) the SM6BHZ CW/SSB test transmissions (up to S9) and a local birdie on 507.600.

For the QSO I was running 300W into my 11m high / 25m long lazy-L antenna, estimated ERP about 1.5 Watt (at best, if the greenery does not absorb too much)

The night from Sunday - Monday I left Argo running,  VX9MRC produced a good signal all through the night and faded out at 07UTC. This would mean that there is a potential transatlantic path on 500kHz for 13h a day !!!

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

At 17:05 16/11/2009, you wrote:
Hi All,

Good signals from both stations last night.

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.



--=====================_8302466==.ALT-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma10.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMA102-8c84b140c2133b; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:17:08 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA092-8c84b140c2133b; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:17:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NFAnJ-0007ox-Gl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:16:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NFAnJ-0007oo-4E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:16:17 +0000 Received: from smtp829.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.13.164]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NFAnI-0002bZ-IV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:16:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 74207 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2009 18:16:10 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=Iksa6gmAp7C5nscy4nP5fyNCQ28YPz1vwU7euhEW3+MvBjQ81732C/lgEqELAo4mWkAbb0GUcC8zOmszOuzpiKHV5b9WTyJBqzv4zhBV6oY7nekIsEXtFxjA34+ucaho1pfn52dRXxGVmHxqOOAkwcTHpeRNnt70l/AywWZz3TE= ; Received: from unknown (HELO IBM7FFA209F07C) (c.ashby435@86.171.33.4 with login) by smtp829.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Nov 2009 18:16:10 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: 9STUSnaswBBSd6nO_2gAC20jmYlWRjmg8d5iYd8s.rl181aR6Sw- X-YMail-OSG: HL_tw3oVM1kQkfK7hn9RPSHgIcdBMMthUXdrnDfXGKlST7Cs.VLzIHx1dvfRKeZYfR43.MOJp8lsMyX_jp3R1O_RdTNoH6Rnb0NIf1ZCPli8BWrFjh983ExqBEvLLBEMeZkU7wq9OyCGeTCCgInbnW5kZEzwq1pQPqB_b0ZOL7I9NCHr0RdZc5.GGmFZX7ncJP0Beuk.Rbhuru2FnhkvGJY9zjFqEfiTGy12T5Z5rXd46xFRRvZWigGqAVzxTdH8rgSSQxwzzV8q1UhfredCWwlJSKrYAQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "Chris" To: References: <1259600322.2708.33.camel@gerhard-desktop> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:16:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: LF: Re: Testtransmission 137,685 OE3GHB Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 QRSS3?? Will look for you. 73,G4AYT. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerhard Hickl" To: Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 4:58 PM Subject: LF: Testtransmission 137,685 OE3GHB > Hi all! > > In the moment I'm trying to test my TX and my antenna. I'm going to > transmit from 1800z to 2000z today. Probably a bit longer. > > My Antenna is a Marconi, 12m vertically/top-loaded. The loading coil is > about 2,4 mH and antenna input is about 35 Watts. > > The QRG will be 137,685 and the text is "TEST OE3GHB" repeated every 10 > Minutes. My VFO is also still in development-state an so QRG could vary > some cps. > > Please take the time and try to receive my signal. Reports are very > appreciated. Thank you in advance. > > 73 and cheers > > OE3GHB > Gerhard > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df07.mx.aol.com (rly-df07.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.20]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF051-5634b03cfaf215; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:42:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF074-5634b03cfaf215; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:42:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAhyy-0001iO-4j for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:41:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAhyx-0001iF-Kt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:41:51 +0000 Received: from smtp23.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAhyw-0006mZ-RD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:41:51 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2313.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5543C7000093 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:41:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (153.180.192-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.192.180.153]) by msfrf2313.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 105BB7000094 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:41:42 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091118104143670.105BB7000094@msfrf2313.sfr.fr Message-ID: <001001ca683b$be6c2cc0$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:41:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091117-1, 17/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.8 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUB_HELLO=1.76 Subject: LF: hello man's Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01CA6844.1FC7C0D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, SUB_HELLO autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01CA6844.1FC7C0D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HI LF=20 opening the Beacon for eventualy swl 137705hz qrss3 the control's is welcome many thanks=20 Claude F8boj JN16WA ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01CA6844.1FC7C0D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_000D_01CA6844.1FC7C0D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db02.mx.aol.com (rly-db02.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.77]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB083-aac4b0656fe187; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:45:00 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB022-aac4b0656fe187; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:44:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBP4V-0004kQ-5x for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:42:27 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBP4R-0004kE-Eu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:42:23 +0000 Received: from smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com ([195.200.78.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBP4O-0007ba-1F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:42:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 6061 invoked by uid 507); 20 Nov 2009 09:42:05 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO JR) (john.rabson@numeo.fr@217.67.155.178) by smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com with SMTP; 20 Nov 2009 09:42:05 +0100 Message-ID: <200911200942130317.1443B400@smtp2.numeo.fr> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:42:13 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Soft Rock for 500 Khz where to buy ?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Graham, Please see below from M0BMU. 73 John F5VLF *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 19/11/2009 at 23:29 Graham wrote: >All . > >Where can a Soft Rock rx for 500 Khz be purchased from ./ > >Or do you need to modify a 455 Khz version for 500 ? >If so .. where from a 455khz version ? > >Tnx-=20 > >Graham .. BEGINS On 09/07/2007 at 18:30 James Moritz wrote: >Dear LF Group, > >I don't claim any great originality for this, but I have modified a coupl= e >of the SoftRock Lite v6.2 kits by KB9YIG for use on 136k and 500k - the >details are attached. > >I changed the local oscillators to 4MHz for 500k and 1MHz for 136k, with >the >"x8" jumper set. This gives nominal LO frequencies of 500kHz and 125kHz >respectively, putting the output frequency within the range of a sound >card. >At 4MHz, the existing SoftRock LO circuit just about works, but it didn't >on >1MHz. I made some component value changes to the oscillator and buffer to >get a reasonable waveform on each band, which are detailed in the >attachment. 4MHz crystals are easy to get - I had several 1MHz xtals in= my >junk box, but these seem to be harder to buy now than they once were. An >alternative for 136k would be to use a 1MHz DIL oscillator module, feedin= g >the flip-flop directly. Another possibility is a 500kHz ceramic resonator= , >but the stability is not as good as a crystal. > >The original input filter could be re-designed for the LF/MF range, but= the >components wouldn't fit on the tiny board, and the rejection of broadcast >band signals would not really be good enough. So I designed off-board inp= ut >filters with higher rejection of signals at harmonics of the LO frequency= . >Like the original design, these require no adjustment and use fixed value >components - values are given in the attachment. I used 1/2-watt resistor >sixed axial-leaded chokes on 500kHz, which were fine. Similar components >had >insufficient Q at 136k, but the larger radial-leaded chokes wound on a >ferrite bobbin were adequate..The original tuned mixer input balun >transformer is replaced with an un-tuned ferrite-cored transformer. > >I have used the two SoftRocks with I2PHD's "Winrad" software, and DL4YHF'= s >SpecLab, both with excellent results. The Rocky software does not like th= e >PCs I have available. The sensitivity is not quite as good as my other >receivers, but since I normally use a preamp with various receiving loops= , >this is not important. The sensitivity should be adequate when used with= a >TX type antenna. It is important to set up the amplitude and phase balanc= e >carefully, especially on 136kHz, where there is a lot of Loran noise in= the >image sideband. > >Let me know if you have any problems viewing the attached schematic, > >Cheers, Jim Moritz >73 de M0BMU ENDS From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD104-9024b06bdcf313; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:03:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD052-9024b06bdcf313; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:03:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBVw2-0007HR-DP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:02:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBVw2-0007HH-1x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:02:10 +0000 Received: from out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.242]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBVw0-0000Tf-0x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:02:10 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgcFAM5LBktcHdDq/2dsb2JhbACCJiuGS4RqBsZ1hDwE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,778,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="252598689" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.29.208.234]) by out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 20 Nov 2009 16:01:58 +0000 Message-ID: <003601ca69fa$c9f7c840$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:01:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: OH1TN Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0033_01CA69FA.C9B037F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01CA69FA.C9B037F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OH1TN active 137.7 dfcw also a F3 stn cq =20 de g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01CA69FA.C9B037F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
OH1TN   active 137.7= dfcw also a=20 F3 stn cq
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0033_01CA69FA.C9B037F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb07.mx.aol.com (rly-mb07.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.165]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB024-d154af70b17c4; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:17:01 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB071-d154af70b17c4; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:16:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7CIv-00081D-56 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:15:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7CIu-000814-PX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:15:56 +0000 Received: from out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.237]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7CHx-0001jk-Lq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:14:58 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: As4EADeZ9kpcHccI/2dsb2JhbACCIy2BaYlDBssahD4E X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,704,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="79920842" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([92.29.199.8]) by out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 08 Nov 2009 18:15:49 +0000 Message-ID: <026601ca609f$82671260$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:15:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: TREES Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0263_01CA609F.80109F40" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0263_01CA609F.80109F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable According to some USA stn they thread and hang their loops through tre= e branches. This info has appeared in the past on this reflector.=20 Are UK trees different from those in the USA ? Apart from me no one else in the UK seemed to think this was a problem= !! G3KEV =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0263_01CA609F.80109F40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
According to some USA stn they thread= and=20 hang their loops through tree branches. This info has appeared in= the past=20 on this reflector.
Are UK trees different from thos= e in the USA=20 ?
Apart from me no one else in the UK= seemed to think=20 this was a problem !!
G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_0263_01CA609F.80109F40-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da06.mx.aol.com (rly-da06.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.80]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA093-a774b0089212ac; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:05:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA067-a774b0089212ac; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:05:07 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9o8r-00032P-3O for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:04:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9o8q-000327-Dy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:04:20 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9o8p-0003nw-RW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:04:20 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3532.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 190971C00085 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:04:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3532.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0B18B1C00086 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:04:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.53.205]) by mwinf3532.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id C1CCC1C00085 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:04:13 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091115230413794.C1CCC1C00085@mwinf3532.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <1043CB7D895D4161B1C87CDD140332A2@AGB> <0CADF4DD71FD43A2A8384463754F6344@AGB> <4B005411.4010506@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <1C14999758D149228277CBBC2446F1D7@AGB> <4B006812.7010101@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <1A8E7857A7294C39AA873BDC76A001D8@AGB> <4B007F8D.2090707@sighthound.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4B007F8D.2090707@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:04:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Running mW wspr Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Typical hihi .. Just a couple of decodes from Jim at near the noise floor ....I will revert to normal running for a while before qrt noted last night the Faroe islands where reporting .. but quite a drop from your s/n level .. looks like you are just at the right skip distance ? 73 - G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "John P-G" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 10:24 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Running mW wspr > > Graham wrote: >> Not a beep ... >> Set power to 200 mW as of 22-05 > > Condx seem to have taken a bit of a dive over the last hour or so. > > Thanks for trying. > > John > GM4SLV > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb03.mx.aol.com (rly-mb03.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.161]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB022-cfa4b0808cb1b3; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:35:48 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB036-cfa4b0808cb1b3; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:35:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBrz3-0006a0-2H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:34:45 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBrz2-0006Zr-Kw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:34:44 +0000 Received: from web28108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.128]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBrz2-0001Ts-G9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:34:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 45589 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Nov 2009 15:34:39 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1258817679; bh=aSXe80FjCcv4RRjtgs/ds6jnFuHemzI9WIz8EsUrK1s=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tPtooVCM8MFGroiwx3gJkVRWOiHYdqudwjFg69D1PMK+JX53Yn9UADue18rEF5lVZauIpxIMQ2fg9Tjma5QK4revR/LWS2ZXYHZzKdbofGhH21g8OWFjB5TS+tRlEIPSDHQ9Z7qthUd52nLSYT8tk2fd0pJhvso2aNJoRo3nuYY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5Y0ZZ68EYF10udBQVfNNm8DZFjO+51dvjqLlTMMPcQ7Hw/zdvpNSzHPIuUOtqN1P28NrYxE97Hl94Z8k6N9AcHDU42X2VpQG25JFnCUsx0Cn+aAHjQRMA5g5hck52QUhG/sYX4to9v46duOpXmS8blZm/6KZ1nNFENehm47K4BY=; Message-ID: <129119.45578.qm@web28108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: JHOmiLkVM1leDe_Viq5X1lLhFBCSCUeC2Un8aJZMIxqdGma6NIkhgzF0c6XNQO6KYiCjCQFBfmUKAz17lvdu2cCmZxuhLkdCiGQDMOXLwIHO.JcswKdBMFWAxJdddlTdGsCjqdLTeIex0Cbm2z9ZnPoN1q50xYqcParRdq88SPZ5Lk9TIluLDabJhIu0LmSr1h1bkRtTfjdINMpPHCtIuiXxnaYZ8pWazt8_sO77BSAyAA4ibHE83blMbiZalihauZdqoPNFqYYQXuI001mbcmx.gWloQkHuJni2xp1Ye80jC4t5QibW1kMQRqVPP6gDKVGqO9S_Af0SSQ-- Received: from [86.140.72.176] by web28108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 07:34:38 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 07:34:38 -0800 (PST) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <005d01ca6abd$476e88f0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: SOFTROCK Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1931950020-1258817678=:45578" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m225.1 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-1931950020-1258817678=:45578 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0 Now there's a good offer John! =A0 73 petefmt --- On Sat, 21/11/09, mal hamilton wrote: From: mal hamilton Subject: LF: SOFTROCK To: "rsgb" Date: Saturday, 21 November, 2009, 15:14 I have a spare Softrock V6.2 RX/TX kit for 160m and could easily be modifi= ed for 500 Khz de mal/g3kev =A0 =20 --0-1931950020-1258817678=:45578 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Now there's a good offer John!
 
73 petefmt

--- On Sat, 21/11/09, mal hamilton <g3kevm= al@talktalk.net> wrote:

From: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net&g= t;
Subject: LF: SOFTROCK
To: "rsgb" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= >
Date: Saturday, 21 November, 2009, 15:14

I have a spare Softrock V6.2 RX/TX kit fo= r 160m and could easily be modified for 500 Khz
de mal/g3kev
 

=20 --0-1931950020-1258817678=:45578-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (rly-ma06.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.50]) by air-ma10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA102-8b24af4d905305; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:18:49 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA064-8b24af4d905305; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:18:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6aqd-0007lY-RM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 02:16:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6aqd-0007lP-DN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 02:16:15 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s7.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.18]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6aqa-0006pK-5w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 02:16:14 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W27 ([65.55.116.7]) by blu0-omc1-s7.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 6 Nov 2009 18:16:04 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [189.176.117.197] From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China To: Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 17:16:03 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Nov 2009 02:16:04.0056 (UTC) FILETIME=[41DDD580:01CA5F50] X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_ed03a485-282c-463a-8e7e-7d29d79b8a08_" Subject: RE: LF: 10 mW ERP Beacon X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_40_50, HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_ed03a485-282c-463a-8e7e-7d29d79b8a08_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gus the Alaska receiver still sitting on the WSPR section for you and othe= rs! good luck. =20 Laurence XE KL1 X mobile =20 From: begu@algonet.se To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 00:49:26 +0100 Subject: LF: 10 mW ERP Beacon Hi LF, =20 tonight i run beacon WSPR with only 10 mW ERP. This test will run all night. =20 73 de Gus SM6BHZ =20 www.sm6bhz.com =20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=3D9690331&ocid=3DPID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL= :en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009=3D --_ed03a485-282c-463a-8e7e-7d29d79b8a08_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gus the Alaska receiver still sitting on the WSPR section for you and othe= rs! good luck.
 
Laurence
XE KL1 X mobile
 
From: begu@algonet.se
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Sat, 7= Nov 2009 00:49:26 +0100
Subject: LF: 10 mW ERP Beacon

Hi LF,
 
tonight i run beacon WSPR with only 10 mW= ERP.
This test will run all night.<= /STRONG>
 
73 de Gus SM6BHZ
 
 
 

Windows 7: Unclutter you= r desktop. Lea= rn more. =3D --_ed03a485-282c-463a-8e7e-7d29d79b8a08_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (rly-ma02.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.46]) by air-ma08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA083-8934af6e8531ba; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:48:43 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA025-8934af6e8531ba; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:48:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N79zU-000722-0p for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:47:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N79zT-00071t-LF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:47:43 +0000 Received: from smtp21.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.2]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N79yW-00016V-2f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:46:44 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2126.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E735D7000098 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:47:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (222.43.196-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.196.43.222]) by msfrf2126.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 9CE217000097 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:47:34 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091108154734642.9CE217000097@msfrf2126.sfr.fr Message-ID: <000e01ca608a$ca40acf0$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:47:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091108-0, 08/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: qrss10....test f8boj Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA6093.2BAA71D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA6093.2BAA71D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi LF test qrss10 now good signal for G3YXM=20 many thanks for your grabber good evening all claude f8boj JN16WA ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA6093.2BAA71D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi LF
test qrss10 now good signal for G3YXM=
many thanks for your grabber
good evening all
claude f8boj JN16WA
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA6093.2BAA71D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA072-a794b01188d35f; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 04:17:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA071-a794b01188d35f; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 04:17:07 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9xYe-0004E3-ON for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:07:36 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9xYb-0004Du-Al for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:07:33 +0000 Received: from mcgi38.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.217]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9xYW-00050U-IO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:07:31 +0000 Received: from mcgi38.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi38.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB2091146B for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:07:22 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [91.77.88.87] by mcgi38.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:07:17 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:07:17 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <118539074.1258323511.44388760.23420@mcgi76.rambler.ru> Message-Id: <814669796.1258362437.164757368.99545@mcgi38.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF:SP2KDS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Marcin, LF! TNX for attempt to tx in QRSS-60. You'll see I rx your "S" only. Full report into 136 part qrss.nm.ru as usual. * Roman RW3ADB [Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:18:31 +0300]: > > Hi Marcin, LF! > Poor trace 137.706.0 into mode-10 into my location today > http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/16nov2009_SP2KDS/135.58W_10_00035.jpg > 73! -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc01.mx.aol.com (rly-mc01.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.85]) by air-mc05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC051-d574af2b8b1255; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:36:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC017-d574af2b8b1255; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:36:19 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N60cW-0001Mn-QM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:35:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N60cW-0001Me-C5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:35:16 +0000 Received: from mx01.infotech.at ([213.174.240.1]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N60cU-00069Q-46 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:35:16 +0000 Received: from [213.174.255.68] by mx01.infotech.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N60cT-0007M9-4A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:35:13 +0100 Message-ID: <4AF2B89D.6040001@inext.at> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:35:57 +0100 From: Oberreiter Oswald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001901ca5dfa$4e55bf50$0201a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> In-Reply-To: <001901ca5dfa$4e55bf50$0201a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: dk7fc.....f8boj beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) HI Claude strong signal today here 20 db over nois ! 73 de ossi oe5odl Claude Berthebaud schrieb: > HI LF and DK7FC > Hello stefan open the beacon to day for 137705.0hz qrss3 > very good day > Claude F8boj JN16WA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb03.mx.aol.com (rly-mb03.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.161]) by air-mb07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB073-cf84aef35af3b; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:40:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB034-cf84aef35af3b; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:40:33 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N52kG-00011A-7b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:39:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N52kF-000111-QS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:39:15 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N52im-0001lO-Oe for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:37:45 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so6881533bwz.4 for ; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 11:39:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=T/qKGQ6MsLGvvrGfEBWbGqCVjM5owDzVaGZ/rxJdLV4=; b=xe/Xjovcfp8tV9VetW1G7q1cOfofeMUlpHdMZAL5yBedw8kAchFNTOs+Jz1yDraOD3 YarBWrSKlQasfb0qhi56vwthJCElkIUSd/p8t+j0q0ZjV7z8s2WD0ENFpQkuyNd/h09v r1KEgmn+I+XGPZ8WA1FY1KK3HwXcSh4cqD3ww= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=kwj2TxRXLcBTHgiKj+oo3YeUb9OQYpt8/SS6GXYb7Kd96Yyt3M34Q9g50ss13FvkzQ r693yibADiDbuhoITv5c62BJD3EZCkW50BE7pboSRUsoMBq43rirUMEVnG4X6gyXDOGo Wg7SdPGe6lsixqBiaOD2YBLmR/cR7nS99D4a8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.150.76 with SMTP id x12mr964421bkv.30.1257190748682; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 11:39:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4AEF15CA.24356.160823@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> References: <4AEF15CA.24356.160823@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 19:39:08 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911021139j1be380f0o1d76d293bb8b5764@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_10_20=0.945,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 'LF Today' Errors Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175dd9c6fd7cd604776887d5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m289.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0015175dd9c6fd7cd604776887d5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Mike (et al), As an owner of the 1st edition of LF Today may I thank you for this most helpful little book; there has been much in it that I've enjoyed and used as sources of information. I do hope a new version is produced in due course. Maybe the next edition will include something about WSPR and how effective results may be achieved, on 500kHz at least, with a *totally* simple station set-up like my own running just microwatts ERP. The only error/confusion I spotted is on p81 (of the 1st edition) when it talks about current transformers. There is something screwy here when working out the current in the secondary. 73s Roger G3XBM ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --0015175dd9c6fd7cd604776887d5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike (et al),

As an owner of the 1st edition of LF Today may I than= k you for this most helpful little book; there has been much in it that I&= #39;ve enjoyed and used as sources of information. I do hope a new version= is produced in due course.

Maybe the next edition will include something about WSPR and how effec= tive results may be achieved, on 500kHz at least, with a totally si= mple station set-up like my own running just microwatts ERP.

The on= ly error/confusion I spotted is on p81 (of the 1st edition) when it talks= about current transformers. There is something screwy here when working= out the current in the secondary.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088
--0015175dd9c6fd7cd604776887d5-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da09.mx.aol.com (rly-da09.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.83]) by air-da04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA042-a8a4aff6cdc4b; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:52:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA092-a8a4aff6cdc4b; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:52:14 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9VCZ-0002wh-85 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 02:50:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9VCY-0002wY-Mh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 02:50:54 +0000 Received: from mcgi73.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.210]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9VCX-0000p9-QC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 02:50:54 +0000 Received: from mcgi73.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi73.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id A602711521 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:50:47 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [81.195.15.97] by mcgi73.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:50:42 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:50:42 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: Message-Id: <710152697.1258253442.86168408.14505@mcgi73.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 137kHz grabber in SP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Jacek, LF! Congratulation with the grabber started! Put your QTH locator to the page next time. And put "offset" to Spectrum lab pse for the screening a real freq rule. * Jacek Lipkowski [Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:38:59 +0100 (CET)]: > I've set up a temporary 137kHz grabber. QTH is Warsaw, Poland KO02md. RX > is an ex-DDR EKV03 with a mini-whip active antenna. Currently it is set > for QRSS3. It is in a nice mid-point between active grabbers in DL and > RU. > > The url is http://acid.ch.pw.edu.pl/~sq5bpf/grabber/ > > This area has high qrm, so if you see yourself on the grabber - > congratulations :) > > I will leave it on all night in case anyone is interested, later it will > be avaliable upon request. > > VY 73 > > Jacek / SQ5BPF > > 73! -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (rly-mg10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.116]) by air-mg02.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMG023-a3c4b1276353bd; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:25:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG106-a3c4b1276353bd; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:25:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEjl6-0000yI-KY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:24:12 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEjl6-0000y9-3l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:24:12 +0000 Received: from smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com ([195.200.78.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEjl4-0002Ua-LI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:24:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 27084 invoked by uid 507); 29 Nov 2009 14:23:56 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO JR) (john.rabson@numeo.fr@217.67.155.178) by smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2009 14:23:56 +0100 Message-ID: <200911291424030643.0A425BB7@smtp2.numeo.fr> In-Reply-To: <4B126AF9.3050300@ntlworld.com> References: <2746F3E144D3480AB85CD466920B1313@lindavideo> <003001ca70e7$24aaf3a0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <003c01ca70eb$0aa52120$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <4B126AF9.3050300@ntlworld.com> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:24:03 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv diode Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 With modern devices, do you still need equalising networks? John F5VLF *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 29/11/2009 at 12:37 David Towers wrote: >Hi Mal >surely "in series" to give a 4 KV diode at 1amp ? >dave G8SZX > > > >mal hamilton wrote: >> Ken >> On the serious side, use 6 x 1Kvolt @ 1A in parallel if u are stuck. >> Don't get zapped >> 73 mal/g3kev >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* mal hamilton >> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> >> *Sent:* Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:28 AM >> *Subject:* LF: Re: 4kv diode >> >> Electric Chair Co >> Zapenda Cul de sac >> Hellda State >> Zip73 >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Ken >> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> >> *Sent:* Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:04 AM >> *Subject:* LF: 4kv diode >> >> Hello All. >> I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or equivalent diode, BY4 4kv @ >> 1A, BY6 6kv @ 1A, I have searched the web and looked in >> Farnell, any ideas please. >> >> 73. >> Ken >> >> M0KHW >> From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (rly-dg10.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.94]) by air-dg05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG054-5f74b0cf789261; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:23:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG102-5f74b0cf789261; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:23:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDE4s-0001ab-PC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:22:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDE4s-0001aS-6z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:22:22 +0000 Received: from psmtp30.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.32]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDE4q-0000vD-9F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:22:22 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp30.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KTN007T7RCYAN@psmtp30.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:22:10 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:21:45 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: XKO 25-11.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ADSdq/Xx7JoneJ+XKBRlxA)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --Boundary_(ID_ADSdq/Xx7JoneJ+XKBRlxA) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_c0wV+RQ/SXoAwMVdXjwT0w)" --Boundary_(ID_c0wV+RQ/SXoAwMVdXjwT0w) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi LF, Capture XKO, Henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: XKO 25-11.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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Hi LF,
Capture XKO,
Henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.51,0.52 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Stainless steel versus copper Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0054_01CA5F9E.EB1B0B10" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0054_01CA5F9E.EB1B0B10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Wolf, Regarding steel wire losses depend highly on the kind of steel and on the kind of antenna (resonant or not). Magnetic steel should be avoided because its µrel is unknown and changes over frequency. On shortwave I've measured a factor of ~13 steel vs copper for *rf* losses of a 2mm steel antenna litz wire, manufactured by a former German antenna producer (Fritzel). This closely matches with numbers found in Gerd Janzen's book "Kurze Antennen". Therefore the efficiency for a half wave dipole is about 89% (0,5dB) and 84% (0,76dB) for a fullwave loop made of this type of steel. Losses of steel antenna wire really become detrimental if you use short antennas because of the low radiation resistance. So for MW/LW,where most of us have extremely short antenas in terms of wavelength steel wire is not advisable for antennas. Losses of feeders made of steel,with reasonable diameter (say 2mm) are in the same range as with resonant dipoles or resonant loops,i.e. neglectable for our purposes. 73 Clemens DL4RAJ ----- Original Message ----- From: Wolf Ostwald To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 8:23 AM Subject: LF: Stainless steel versus copper Hi ! Is there any experience around about using stainless steel wires for toploads or feeders versus copper ? As to my knowledge there is a certain amount of rf current penetrating into the conductor at 137/500 kHz. Losses are expected to be high in lesser conductive materials at those frequencies. Any ideas about the order of magnitude in current fed antennas ? 73 de wolf df2py / di2bj ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. 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Hello Wolf,
 
Regarding steel wire losses depend highly on the kind of ste= el
and=20 on the kind of antenna (resonant or not).
Magnetic steel should be= avoided=20 because its =B5rel is unknown and=20
changes over frequency. 

On shortwave I've measured= a factor of=20 ~13 steel vs copper for *rf*  losses of a 2mm
steel anten= na litz=20 wire, manufactured by a former German antenna producer (Fritzel).=
This closely matches with numbers found in Gerd Janzen's book "Ku= rze=20 Antennen".
Therefore the efficiency for a half wave dipole is about= 89%=20 (0,5dB)
and 84% (0,76dB) for a fullwave loop made of this= type of=20 steel.
Losses of steel antenna wire really become detrimental if yo= u use=20 short antennas because of
the low radiation resistance.
So for MW/LW,where most of us have extremely short antenas in ter= ms of=20 wavelength
steel wire is not advisable for antennas.
Losses of feeders made of steel,with= reasonable=20 diameter (say 2mm) are in the same range
as with resonant dipoles or resonant= loops,i.e. neglectable for our= =20 purposes.

73
Clemens
DL4RAJ
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Wolf= Ostwald=20
Sent: Saturday, November 07,= 2009 8:23=20 AM
Subject: LF: Stainless steel= versus=20 copper

Hi !

Is there any experi= ence around=20 about using stainless steel wires for toploads or feeders versus cop= per=20 ?

As to my knowledge= there is a=20 certain amount of rf current penetrating into the conductor at 137/5= 00 kHz.=20 Losses are expected to be high in lesser conductive materials at tho= se=20 frequencies. Any ideas about the order of magnitude in current fed= antennas=20 ?

73 de wolf  df= 2py /=20 di2bj


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------=_NextPart_000_0054_01CA5F9E.EB1B0B10-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG044-a054af1984d15b; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:06:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG037-a054af1984d15b; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:05:51 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N5hPw-0006Ob-Lx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:05:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N5hPw-0006OS-0f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:05:00 +0000 Received: from mail-yx0-f203.google.com ([209.85.210.203]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N5hOc-0002Th-IE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:03:39 +0000 Received: by yxe41 with SMTP id 41so18273744yxe.30 for ; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 07:04:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=iVHNtPzKGAsCaY5SWXfvxXHknSxWt8WP8mcxoaqzihg=; b=gmstphz7cwtTr/FjKAE3xTa3+kOvOfxTxpv4MHXubaIXG5FCvbRaYD128BojUZJLQt 7Uzl9ppq93SKiFQa3TWW6f9PQ3ay1hd0fRMJ1plqvfaPGVi8M6XE5M3m5QYNuYLfPB3Y mN3dbQGWgqK6TCmudgDmASugNtpK9yMvkmIvE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xOSj6bcC0ozngV34Nmdp4OoDM337xWzpd+by8tcOEsctOslGkkN9JI3g+C+mTgXhcg U1yLO5e1SIzooTACdGw5RKugAmfCWZuG3QpMb0wwAFYbdczJ1mo1ixAzpl5OCb6x2mxJ sGnixeklK3ThnYcDjpjwqU5RykfriKOzIJjuM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.38.5 with SMTP id l5mr2848657ybl.284.1257347092267; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 07:04:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4AF11056.3030404@telus.net> References: <4AF11056.3030404@telus.net> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 10:04:52 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70911040704r17a93d46s621e564ce62f2e90@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 2.7 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08=2.435,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: J... Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary=000e0cd4d064cb428804778cee24 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_06, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m230.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0cd4d064cb428804778cee24 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd4d064cb427804778cee23 --000e0cd4d064cb427804778cee23 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks Scott, I need to stay on the air a bit longer for the west coast! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Scott Tilley wrote: > > > --000e0cd4d064cb427804778cee23 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Scott,
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X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Class E pa Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0ce045049459360479309eda X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d282.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0ce045049459360479309eda Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Mal I'm still using a Derivative of the Design from G3YXM's class E 1KW TX on LF. Recently I've built a TX for 500 kHz using the same principle. It works great and delivers up to 500W. Unfortunately only into a dummy load, because 500 kHz is still not allowed here in Switzerland. But at least - I will be ready ;-) 73 de Toni, HB9ASB 2009/11/25 mal hamilton > Ref recent discussion on the subject. > > I use a class E pa on 500 kcs and never get any trouble. > As a general guide use high voltage fets and the fet V should be rated at > about 5 times the supply V and current about 3 times. > You arrive at class E by careful design not by accident. > Having designed and built the PA for the required power and load R usually > 50 ohms adjust into a DL for correct waveform as displayed on a 'scope, this > is important otherwise V spikes and instability will kill the fet. > Install a suitable antenna and match it with a suitable atu to 50 ohms so > when you connect the TX/PA to the antenna they both match. > Check the wave form again and any slight mismatch should be adjusted by the > antenna atu and NOT the pa. > The load does not have to be 50 ohms but this is convenient when testing > with available test gear. > High V fets give more realistic C and Inductor and R values. A good range > for fets is a psu giving 40 - 100 volts ie fets 500volts and a suitable > current rating depending on your power. requirements ie if you need to draw > 5 amps the fet should be rated 15 amps. > These are the general guidelines and work well for me. > Most amateurs seem to use class D amps whereas class E are rare. > > de Mal/G3KEV > > --000e0ce045049459360479309eda Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mal
I'm still using a Derivative of the Design from G3YXM's= class E 1KW TX on LF. Recently I've built a TX for 500 kHz using the= same principle. It works great and delivers up to 500W. Unfortunately onl= y into a dummy load, because 500 kHz is still not allowed here in Switzerl= and. But at least - I will be ready ;-)
73 de Toni, HB9ASB

2009/11/25 mal hamilt= on <g3kevmal= @talktalk.net>
Ref recent discussion on the subject.=
=A0
I use a class E pa on 500 kcs and nev= er get any=20 trouble.
As a general guide use high voltage= fets and the=20 fet V should be rated at =A0about 5 times the supply V and current about= 3=20 times.
You arrive at class E by careful desi= gn not by=20 accident.
Having designed and built the PA for= the required=20 power=A0and=A0load R usually 50 ohms adjust into a DL for correct waveform= =20 as displayed on a 'scope, this is important otherwise V spikes and ins= tability=20 will kill the fet.
Install a suitable antenna and match= it with a=20 suitable atu to 50 ohms so when you connect the TX/PA to the antenna they= both=20 match.
Check the wave form again and any sli= ght mismatch=20 should be adjusted by the antenna atu and NOT the pa.
The load does not=20 have to be 50 ohms but this is convenient when testing with available test= =20 gear.
High V fets give more realistic C and= Inductor and=20 R values. A good range for fets is a psu giving 40 - 100 volts ie fets 500= volts=20 and a suitable current rating depending on your power. requirements ie if= you=20 need to draw 5 amps the fet should be rated 15 amps.
These are the general guidelines and= work well for=20 me.
Most amateurs seem to use class D amp= s whereas=20 class E are rare.
=A0
de Mal/G3KEV
=A0

--000e0ce045049459360479309eda-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINME043-9c44b0d6097357; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:51:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME068-9c44b0d6097357; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:51:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDL4N-0004tR-Nf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:50:19 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDL4N-0004tI-66 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:50:19 +0000 Received: from out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.237]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDL4L-0004PL-27 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:50:19 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAEPvDEtcHcMt/2dsb2JhbADWLIQyBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,287,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="122234229" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.29.195.45]) by out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 25 Nov 2009 16:50:09 +0000 Message-ID: <001b01ca6def$57a0fca0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <001901ca6de6$a34b30c0$0900a8c0@lark> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:48:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: instability on MosFet amps Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Alan and Co I am using a LPF consisting of 2 x T200 type material with no adverse effects and insertion loss virtually nil. It works well with my class E PA and 1/4 wave inv L antenna. de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Melia" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 3:45 PM Subject: LF: Re: instability on MosFet amps > Hi Wolf this may not be the case with the properly tuned Class-E stage which > has relatively low distortion. It does not output a square-wave as some > think. See The QST article by Nat Sokal. > > Bear in mind filters complicate things further since they can transform > mis-matches and only really work if resistively terminated. Even more reason > to get your antenna right first. Loaded diplexor filters are a little more > forgiving if you have harmonic problems but should not be necessary on > Class-E a simple low-pass half-wave filter works well but use air cored > coils, not toroids. > > Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wolf Ostwald" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 3:25 PM > Subject: LF: instability on MosFet amps > > > > Hello group ! > > > > I found that almost all amp configurations generate harmonics. In case of > a > > homebrewed HF amp, with a push -pull design, I had to build hi-pass > filters > > with a resistive termination, so called split filters, for each band. > > Without dissipating the harmonic energy the stage will have to cope with > > excess voltages and thus bury the MosFets . > > > > My last amp stage for the DI2BJ-beacon is followed by a hi-pass that opens > > at 750 kcs . This way the first harmonic and all the higher ones go into > > thermal dissipation. > > > > A T-type adjustable low-pass is used to match and reduce harmonics > further. > > > > Have fun de wolf df2py > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG052-a274af6e945227; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:52:49 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG081-a274af6e945227; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:52:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7A3Q-00078j-TO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:51:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7A3Q-00078a-Dr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:51:48 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7A2S-00018j-Jf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:50:49 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3524.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 79B301C00084 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:51:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3524.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6CC351C00085 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:51:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.45.11]) by mwinf3524.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id E20971C00084 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:51:40 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091108155140925.E20971C00084@mwinf3524.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <1E18FD2CB0EF4AD18696D0C843D75BFE@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <001b01ca6086$cd0966b0$0617aac0@jimdesk> In-Reply-To: <001b01ca6086$cd0966b0$0617aac0@jimdesk> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:51:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Losses due to ant in tree? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0053_01CA608B.5C614680" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_FONT_BIG, HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0053_01CA608B.5C614680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jim, Its very hard to estimate / guestimate may be move the decimal poi= nt, one place to the left , g4jnt beacon at 311Kmt is showing round= 10 db up on your signal at 243Kmt at the same time of day , If I am= right the power feed on wspr is -6db of the ral pulse/psk , making= power feed 25 watts=20 Similar power / similar distance / very similar bearing , 10 db less= , possibly 0.025 % ? ..... its all smoke and mirrors , perhaps= a little more smoke with wspr ?=20 G .. =20 From: James Cowburn=20 Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 3:19 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Losses due to ant in tree? Hi All, =20 The vertical 5m section of my inverted L runs up into the branches of= a silver birch tree. The wire goes over a large bough at 5m or so an= d then comes out of the branches for some 22m down to a 4m high pole= attached to the garage. =20 Has anyone a guesstimation of the losses in signal caused by running= the wire through the tree? =20 Using vertload and tophat2 I calculate the antenna to be around 0.25%= efficient but this assumes it is in free space. Can anyone suggest= a figure for the additional loss due to tree heating! =20 The vertical element is actually sloping at about 20 degree from the= tree down to the loading coil. The length is nearer 6metres but the= vertical height over ground at the bough is about 5m. =20 (Santa may be bringing me a set of swaged poles with which to build ma= rk 2, well away from the silver birch!) =20 With best regards =20 =20 Jim =20 =20 Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS ------=_NextPart_000_0053_01CA608B.5C614680 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jim,
 
Its very hard to  estimate / gue= stimate =20 may be  move the  decimal point, one place to the  left= , g4jnt=20 beacon at  311Kmt is showing  round 10 db up on your signal= at 243Kmt=20 at the same time of day  , If  I am right the  pow= er=20 feed  on wspr is -6db  of the ral pulse/psk , making power&n= bsp; feed=20 25 watts 
 
Similar power / similar distance / ve= ry similar=20 bearing , 10 db less  , possibly  0.025 % ? .....  its= all =20 smoke and  mirrors , perhaps a little  more  smoke with= wspr=20 ? 
 
G ..  
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 3:19 PM
Subject: LF: Losses due to ant in tree?

Hi All,

 

The vertical 5m section of my=20 inverted L runs up into the branches of a silver birch tree.  The= wire goes=20 over a large bough at 5m or so and then comes out of the branches for= some 22m=20 down to a 4m high pole attached to the garage.

 

Has anyone a guesstimation of the=20 losses in signal caused by running the wire through the=20 tree?

 

Using vertload and tophat2 I=20 calculate the antenna to be around 0.25% efficient but this assumes it= is in=20 free space.  Can anyone suggest a figure for the additional loss= due to=20 tree heating!

 

The vertical element is actually=20 sloping at about 20 degree from the tree down to the loading coil. &nb= sp;The=20 length is nearer 6metres but the vertical height over ground at the bo= ugh is=20 about 5m.

 

(Santa may be bringing me a set of=20 swaged poles with which to build mark 2, well away from the silver=20 birch!)

 

With best=20 regards

 

 

= Jim

 

 

Dr. James Cowburn=20 G7NKS



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Hello Roger,
You are right about the transfor= mer thing and=20 the calculation being incorrect, however, you will be pleased to know= this has=20 been put right in the second edition.
I totally agree, these books are an= excellent=20 starting point.
Chris, G4AYT.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 02, 20= 09 7:39=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: 'LF Today'= Errors

Mike (et al),

As an owner of the 1st edition= of LF Today=20 may I thank you for this most helpful little book; there has been mu= ch in it=20 that I've enjoyed and used as sources of information. I do hope a ne= w version=20 is produced in due course.

Maybe the next edition will inclu= de=20 something about WSPR and how effective results may be achieved, on= 500kHz at=20 least, with a totally simple station set-up like my own runni= ng just=20 microwatts ERP.

The only error/confusion I spotted is on p81= (of the=20 1st edition) when it talks about current transformers. There is some= thing=20 screwy here when working out the current in the secondary.

73= s
Roger=20 G3XBM

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http://g3xbm-= qrp.blogspot.com/
http:/= /www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM  =20  GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088
------=_NextPart_000_0029_01CA5D50.4CC646F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db04.mx.aol.com (rly-db04.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.79]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB032-abb4b0932472cd; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:45:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB041-abb4b0932472cd; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:44:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCBnK-0002z7-9H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:43:58 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCBnJ-0002yy-Tt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:43:57 +0000 Received: from mbox2.netikka.net ([213.250.81.203]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCBnI-00042g-7Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:43:57 +0000 Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by mbox2.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96DA3408036 for ; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) LF DK7SU 439 on 136.7kHz in QSO with DK7FC/P 1238UTC Mini-Whip @ 10m AGL IC-R75 Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ Vaasa / KP03SD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB061-aba4b0879573cb; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:36:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB038-aba4b0879573cb; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:35:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBzTU-0004Xp-QP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:34:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBzTU-0004Xg-Ai for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:34:40 +0000 Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com ([205.188.91.97]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBzTT-00035N-Hk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:34:40 +0000 Received: from imo-da01.mx.aol.com (imo-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.199]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nALNYQhc023298 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:34:26 -0500 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-da01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id l.d41.538829d5 (39331) for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:34:23 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:34:23 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: F4DTL@aol.com X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: SP2KDS 137kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1258846462" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1258846462 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Hello Marcin and Andrey,good copy here in QRSS3. =20 =20 F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC7400 Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010 Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 22/11/2009 00:16:35 Paris, Madrid, rn3agc@mail.ru= a =20 =E9crit : Hi Marcin, The signal is audible!! S1-2 at 23.10 73 Andrey Dear LF, SP2KDS calling CQ now... 137,695kHz QRSS 3 73! Marcin SQ2BXI -------------------------------1258846462 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= FONT id=3Drole_document color=3D#000000 size=3D2 face=3DArial>
Hello Marcin and Andrey,good copy here in QRSS3.
 
F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP

RX : Icom IC7400
Ant: Wellbrook LFL=20 1010

Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 22/11/2009 00:16:35 Paris, Madrid, rn3agc@ma= il.ru a=20 =E9crit :
H= i=20 Marcin,
The signal is audible!! S1-2 at 23.10

73 Andrey
Dear=20 LF,
SP2KDS calling CQ now...
137,695kHz QRSS 3
73! Marcin=20 SQ2BXI
 
 
 -------------------------------1258846462-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (rly-dg06.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.90]) by air-dg04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG043-5d14af707e4262; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:03:26 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG064-5d14af707e4262; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:03:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7C5k-0007o2-Hd for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:02:20 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7C5k-0007nt-3J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:02:20 +0000 Received: from mbox2.netikka.net ([213.250.81.203]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7C5i-0005q5-N9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:02:19 +0000 Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by mbox2.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D26F6408062 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:02:10 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C4AF495BA3 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:02:10 +0200 (EET) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:02:10 +0200 Message-ID: <1257703330.4af707a2981ef@imp.netikka.net> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:02:10 +0200 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20091108130141.ptdpp5udwsc8ksc4@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <1N7BTk-0pNfai0@fwd00.t-online.de> In-Reply-To: <1N7BTk-0pNfai0@fwd00.t-online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: New allocations for Norwegian radio Amateurs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Ha-Jo, LF Yes, you are right. 100W is the limit for transmitter output power and the= re is no separate ERP limit according to the information I have. Paul-Henrik, OH1LSQ Quoting hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de: > Dear all > > to my understanding the 100 watts within the new norwegian rules for 500 > kHz is the output power of the transmitter. > > HW? > > 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB > > > "Rik Strobbe" schrieb: > > just received this > > > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > > > ----- Doorgestuurd bericht van la2rr@broadpark.no ----- > > Datum: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 12:50:29 +0100 > > Van: Ole Garpestad > > > > Hi folks, > > > > For your information: > > > > > > New secondary allocations for Norwegian radio amateurs > > > > As of November 6th 2009 the updated amateur radio licensing > > regulations in Norway went into force. > > The main news are the following new allocations made available to all > > Norwegian radio amateurs (in addition to the 135,7 - 137,8 kHz and the > > 7,1 - 7,2 MHz bands): > > > > LF: > > 493 - 510 kHz on secondary basis, 100 W, A1A (CW) only. > > > > HF: > > 5260 - 5410 kHz on secondary basis, all modes (6 kHz max bandwidth) > > 24740-24890 kHz on secondary basis, 1kW (6 kHz max bandwidth) > > > > VHF > > 70,0625-70,0875 MHz on secondary basis, 100 W, max bandwidth 16 kHz > > 70,1375-70,1875 MHz on secondary basis, 100 W, max bandwidth 16 kHz > > 70,2625-70,3125 MHz on secondary basis, 100 W, max bandwidth 16 kHz > > 70,3625-70,3875 MHz on secondary basis, 100 W, max bandwidth 16 kHz > > 70,4125-70,4625 MHz on secondary basis, 100 W, max bandwidth 16 kHz > > > > and some minor adjustments at SHF and EHF. > > > > As of today the full text is only available in Norwegian, but let me > > know if you need any additional info, I will assist as best i can (the > > URL for the Norwegian text is > > http://www.lovdata.no/ltavd1/filer/sf-20091105-1340.html ). > > > > 73 > > Ole, LA2RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Einde doorgestuurd bericht ----- > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (rly-mf03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.173]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v125.8) with ESMTP id MAILINMF042-9504b092b94cc; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:16:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF036-9504b092b94cc; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:16:22 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCBLp-0002YN-31 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:15:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCBLo-0002YE-Nq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:15:32 +0000 Received: from out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.240]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCBLn-0003m1-Sx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:15:32 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlAFAIq6CEtOkFIg/2dsb2JhbACCJCuLOQbEf4Q8BA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,266,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="107505108" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([78.144.82.32]) by out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 22 Nov 2009 12:15:04 +0000 Message-ID: <007901ca6b6d$6b27d3e0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:15:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: DK7FC/P Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0076_01CA6B6D.6AE2B490" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01CA6B6D.6AE2B490 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tnx Stefan for qso but ur RX needs attention Still active CQ De mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01CA6B6D.6AE2B490 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
       = Tnx Stefan=20 for qso but ur RX needs attention
Still active CQ
De mal/g3kev
 
------=_NextPart_000_0076_01CA6B6D.6AE2B490-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de08.mx.aol.com (rly-de08.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.144]) by air-de07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE074-4f44b02750a144; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:04:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE083-4f44b02750a144; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:03:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAKu1-0001Vu-UC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:03:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAKu1-0001Vl-IP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:03:13 +0000 Received: from smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.11]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAKu1-0006Ov-11 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:03:13 +0000 Received: from bb-87-82-19-111.ukonline.co.uk ([87.82.19.111] helo=[192.168.0.3]) by smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NAKu0-000Ld5-6H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:03:12 +0000 Message-ID: <4B027512.30004@ukonline.co.uk> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:04:02 +0000 From: Peter Dodd User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1f0624b90911160805u4435bd18ue805924594d8b997@mail.gmail.com> <20091117081718.BDD6EF3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> <1f0624b90911170146i3b3201abh55b54fd75e56fa50@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1f0624b90911170146i3b3201abh55b54fd75e56fa50@mail.gmail.com> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Congratulations Rik Peter, G3LDO > Rik, > > Well done. > > I should be in a position to attempt the same as I saw solid QRS > signals from Joe. > > Gary - G4WGT. > > 2009/11/17 Rik Strobbe > > > Gary, All, > > yesterday I could copy VX9MRC in QRSS3 with a surprising strong > signal as early as 18 UTC, when I launched Argo. > Throughout the evening the signal was strong and with little QSB > from 19-22UTC, after that the signal became weaker with much more QSB. > Probably because I had a sked with Joe at 22:40 UTC ;-) . > But despite all we managed to complete the QSO with both way M > report (would have been a solid O earlier the evening). > A first ON-VE QSO on 500kHz and with +/- 4075km a new DX record for me > Joe transmitted on 507.770 and I on 501.190. > Between 19 and 22 UTC the signal was audible most of the time and > would have been CW copy if it were not squeezed between the NDB > "Z" carrier at 507.980 (S9+ here) the SM6BHZ CW/SSB test > transmissions (up to S9) and a local birdie on 507.600. > > For the QSO I was running 300W into my 11m high / 25m long lazy-L > antenna, estimated ERP about 1.5 Watt (at best, if the greenery > does not absorb too much) > > The night from Sunday - Monday I left Argo running, VX9MRC > produced a good signal all through the night and faded out at > 07UTC. This would mean that there is a potential transatlantic > path on 500kHz for 13h a day !!! > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > At 17:05 16/11/2009, you wrote: > > Hi All, > > Good signals from both stations last night. > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo. > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD072-b624afbf28c70; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 06:33:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD024-b624afbf28c70; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 06:33:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8XuT-0006W7-B1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:32:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8XuS-0006Vy-Ox for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:32:16 +0000 Received: from smtp819.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.19]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8Xtl-0005RX-0U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:31:37 +0000 Received: (qmail 8719 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2009 11:32:05 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=GnfJWyAGqw0OytSl+RQY/LScXnCDRjyi+OYBSvMmJV3e3yNEvz+8KvYie+Za42RrmSK9hltOd0XWYLVTT5CqPD7VSQo8ghR0uiyTeF0rBYliuq17MDUbaR75MHhX9UfX6tBLsDVg6+jVnrZUPx7T83oD/TQpAKA5O7+c+uVt46g= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@213.122.9.244 with login) by smtp819.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Nov 2009 11:32:03 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: KHdpK2OswBBXlm4uxknbEiS4uYdJoGknHN90u4K8__lTafnafZg- X-YMail-OSG: TEvFAjoVM1lc2WfFrARw5N2pXeJDEzgt3ikHzsLCGhLrbvK4PW3g5i_KKeIKHLQNm1hvbB1nUEPJF7zVe2gNXsi80hmIMlVRT8ecr1HNlPDvqphOFcaGOFBBpjOyMAz.MjFuN3l8_NoRWv.Q.CxpgbXStepIyR4tsqPpmQcRtI_Kt3MWiVYFx2GuYNa2CS41Zx4FMWJg4E.a8KUbQ5cgoquTRI6hIiO.QqH8KPimrsoQTAN4TueCyv5GIOHIwJ4ZsgZBFkp_Tk7XS9OC1Hd3z2lMpcUtFZWaeCHtUs.jEuQV236Q063lR9Qf6KaraBRS5qZDCnvhhuMvhtBga0e6bQBd X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <005001ca638b$c6dce610$0900a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <4AFB477C.5090604@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <001501ca6326$ff28c710$0617aac0@jimdesk> <00f301ca6329$8ba907c0$0900a8c0@lark> <001901ca632a$d3356ab0$0617aac0@jimdesk> <011201ca6332$23e930c0$0900a8c0@lark> <000301ca637d$20bd9e40$0617aac0@jimdesk> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:26:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Jim, Radio is not easy, we all learn as we go along, and are still learning. The catch is that circuit diagrams are not anything more than descriptions of a way of achieving the wanted function. They do not really show what actually is there in terms of strays, parasitic components and unexpected couplings via common impedances....you get a feel for this by experience and that is what often gives it the a nature like a "black art". It makes the succeses that more rewarding too. Stick at it and dont hesitate to ask........sometimes formulating and asking a question will help you understand the problem better, even solve it youself without further help. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Cowburn" To: Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:47 AM Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! > Hi Alan > > Thanks for the pointers here. Very useful. As it transpires, the laptop > psu is now interfering on Rx so a loop has opened up somewhere. I'm going > to dismantle the whole set up and re-wire/reroute from scratch....god help > me!! > > I should have taken up stamp collecting as a hobby! > > > > With best regards > > > Jim > > > Dr. James Cowburn > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia > Sent: 12 November 2009 00:25 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: RE: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! > > Ah the dreaded laptop. Ok the isolation that is agood idea in that case you > must make sure you have some Rf grounds somewhere. Laptops seem to float > there is not reason (for the digital engineers who designed them anyway) to > put an earth on the metalwork. The RF circuitating in those leads might be > inducing hum. It might be worth trying an earth on any suitable but of the > laptop metalwork....socket pillars ?? It definitely sounds as though it is > hum getting into the PC sound system. > > Good Luck with it. > Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Cowburn" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 11:58 PM > Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! > > > > The soundcard leads are via an opto-isolator interface and the leads from > > the interface to laptop are wound on ferrite cores, approx 8 turns each > for > > tx and rx. > > > > I will check the mains psu for the dell d610 laptop as that could be > > introducing hum or picking up rf from the tx (IC-735). It might need > > ferrites on the leads to and from the SMPSU > > > > I've just turned "the wick" down on the tx/rx inputs and also the rf gain > on > > ic 735 till the needle just shifted in case it was being over-driven so > I'll > > see how that works. > > > > Not a prob when I was QRPpp but as sigs improve with dark nights I'd > noticed > > it too > > > > Thanks to John and others for heads up and suggestions > > > > With best regards > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia > > Sent: 11 November 2009 23:49 > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: LF: Re: RE: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! > > > > Hi Jim what kind of PC are you using. If a desktop are to sure it has the > > mains safety earth connected.....I have come across this problem before > some > > 3 connecter IEC moulded leads with only two wires in them!! If a laptop > then > > unless you use a radio earth that may all be floating. Sometimes it is > > necessary to use an tranformer on the audio leads to and from the PC to > gain > > isolation from the hum and noise. I use old telephone hybrid transformers > > 600ohm to 600 ohm ferrite cored. > > > > Best Wishes > > Alan G3NYK > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "James Cowburn" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 11:30 PM > > Subject: LF: RE: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! > > > > > > > Hi John > > > > > > I'll have a look see. I've noticed on strong sigs from me (few and far > > > between!) I get multiple decodes +50 and -50. I'm not aware of any > > obvious > > > mains hum if I monitor my outgoing sigs and all leads are wound on > ferrite > > > cores, but clearly something is amiss. > > > > > > I shall look into it and see what I can find > > > > > > Cheers for the heads up > > > > > > With best regards > > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > Dr. James Cowburn > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John P-G > > > Sent: 11 November 2009 23:24 > > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > > Subject: LF: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! > > > > > > Jim. LF > > > > > > It looks like G7NKS has a 50/100Hz problem on the audio - both in TX and > > > RX directions - there are up to 3 decodes by Jim of a single station (eg > > > G3YXM), spaced by 50 & 100Hz and I see also that M0BMU is also reporting > > > multiple decodes of G7NKS with the same 50/100Hz spacing. > > > > > > Jim, have you some mains hum affecting the audio in/out of the PC? > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > John > > > GM4SLV > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB061-aea4af9afd8be; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:24:33 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB098-aea4af9afd8be; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:24:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7vNH-00087l-9s for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:23:27 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7vNG-00087b-SZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:23:26 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7vNE-0004rB-LE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:23:26 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 320CE51C004; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:23:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id E218E31E702; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:23:09 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id 9B44618056; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:23:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from 121.141-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (121.141-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.247.141.121]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:23:09 +0100 Message-ID: <20091110192309.4v8agotbs0k0gocs@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:23:09 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" , Jim and Hannelore Fisher Cc: "g3xiz@yahoo.co.uk" , rsgb lf group References: <001101ca621e$dcdc3380$96949a80$@princeton.edu> In-Reply-To: <001101ca621e$dcdc3380$96949a80$@princeton.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.247.141.121 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500 kHz WSPR de VE1JF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Jim, I noticed you on WSPRnet yesterday, congrats for copying SM6BHZ. Last night I got only 2 decodes from AA1A. But SM6BHZ is another league, more power and a far better location. So far my 200mW ERP WSPR signal has been copied by AA1A (FN42), K1JT (FN20) and VE1VDM (FN85). With 2 exceptions all decodes were between 22:00 and 22:30 UTC. If WX stays dry I will be WSPR-ing tonight, any chance to take an early start ? 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (rly-ma03.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.47]) by air-ma06.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMA062-89b4b0c3cd270; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:07:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA035-89b4b0c3cd270; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:06:44 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ND1e2-00077q-Hq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:05:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ND1e2-00077f-5R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:05:50 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f215.google.com ([209.85.220.215]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ND1e1-0003h1-I5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:05:50 +0000 Received: by fxm7 with SMTP id 7so7277829fxm.29 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:05:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lzM7tvGrgMqoDcUQWmug+iO528mqgyJIs5app0MZBac=; b=vMPfpOEQTZyvKMsDLBH/9YHnj+wh5FtjFRYvd9IY9IWOcGqz6RJonxYkPUoIT1glxV R77TnWHF+wDWVv7raTjiqf9b0oTv/XzPMKWtioznIDF5xDNYiuZUHHLZo1Yu6rlxerHX zR9s0hchWJ8w0dAAzYsSxcNyjakiCrogWY0nI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=bAvshwdr9LnwdxGDAFSbCZD4xpRLKpo6Z+04+ChnE3FdKbpUsOjZ2tyfPIbte1amSb X9UVn1EUbYoHcDSrsAZxwNiP7tlT87Es6+IzHTkT216HXtnWqQg7Alk6KKLCRYxvzpct uplbpQhArxRCqaFm/ZmnSSOhR0mDLv1PZDjWo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.139.211 with SMTP id u19mr707608hbu.97.1259093142895; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:05:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <9afca2640911241140j230515e9kcbcaffd3911ccb82@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:05:42 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: IRF510 500kHz PA stability issues - advice please Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d231.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Correction:- The IRF540 is also 100V rated, but a lot lower Rds on 0.05 ohms rather than 0.5 ohms for the IRF510. That may well contribute to overheating and damage on mismatch. > open and short circuits and seemed very robust; but I did use the > meatier and more robust higher voltage IRF540. Doesn't the IRF510 only > have a 100V rating? > > Andy > www.g4jnt.com > > This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health > and safety police > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG072-a1b4b0c33665a; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:26:47 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG065-a1b4b0c33665a; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:26:31 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ND115-0006kT-LY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:25:35 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ND115-0006kK-6o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:25:35 +0000 Received: from mail-ew0-f214.google.com ([209.85.219.214]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ND112-0004VG-Qc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:25:35 +0000 Received: by ewy6 with SMTP id 6so3545740ewy.29 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:25:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gMgZkZe+h3fjMkHenS94CqxVViOCDCOw4dl6eIODYRY=; b=LC6YKeKFzqcP2FcPO2liVCxQgw5biNjVGNBcYdTqn7+AsqrNq/lNhagvvyo1eYZ9RA WZ552OnK5KitV6r7kMHbNuHKDDRPPr9rV/jmxZABtWd04ohsrCLIUtFa2wuRJw5KMjRJ sy9PR46VxbcIKO8xDJMRDnW3cjMOfMI3nPx5c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=OqZLzZOp36epqyTyCpSxqwspOEyz4Pt3et4pd/l8cTn87Xv9YRraWC0LJww2dPQu99 w1oDxcmg3frFFmRaELPG+ylyZUESqE03pp/p6PP78oYAIZycgoIn9udhYonQyXiwvxtg X7a3TlqCHUmOvMoKoR+/RCN6P0WhNZmvb5hKI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.2.84 with SMTP id 20mr1603252ebi.90.1259090726523; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:25:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <007801ca6c6a$09baf120$3ab27cbc@niurhaxf0xcqlj> References: <007801ca6c6a$09baf120$3ab27cbc@niurhaxf0xcqlj> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:25:26 +0100 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Anton_B=E4rtschi?= To: Marcin , rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: qso Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0ce0d4a07e9350047922e7e7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d264.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0ce0d4a07e9350047922e7e7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello Marcin Yes, would be nice to make a first contact SP-HB9. As far as i know, it never took place. How abot this weekend, saturday or sunday? Have you ever seen my signal? Should we try it in QRS3 or QRS10? 73 de Toni, HB9ASB 2009/11/23 Marcin > Hello Toni > Plise QSO on 136kHz. > We have 1W EIRP and antenna 30m hight and 120m long. > -- > Vy 73! > Marcin SQ2BXI > (SP2KDS Team) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Internetowi nie placa! Otworz Konto Direct. > Kliknij >> http://link.interia.pl/f2448 > > --000e0ce0d4a07e9350047922e7e7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Marcin
Yes, would be nice to make a first contact SP-HB9. As far= as i know, it never took place. How abot this weekend, saturday or sunday= ? Have you ever seen my signal? Should we try it in QRS3 or QRS10?
73= de Toni, HB9ASB

2009/11/23 Marcin <bxi@interia.pl>
Hello Toni
Plise QSO on 136kHz.
We have 1W EIRP and antenna 30m hight and 120m long.
--
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI
(SP2KDS Team)

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Internetowi nie placa! Otworz Konto Direct.
Kliknij >> http://link.interia.pl/f2448


--000e0ce0d4a07e9350047922e7e7-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (rly-mf06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.176]) by air-mf02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF022-9664afcc9832d; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:51:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF064-9664afcc9832d; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:50:45 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8mE9-0000Z7-7y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:49:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8mE8-0000Yy-Sk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:49:32 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([199.185.220.240]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8mE7-0002W7-UG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:49:32 +0000 Received: from edtnaa01.telusplanet.net ([75.157.140.241]) by priv-edtnes28.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091113024928.FCYS760.priv-edtnes28.telusplanet.net@edtnaa01.telusplanet.net> for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:49:28 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.67] (d75-157-140-241.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.140.241]) by edtnaa01.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 2FD3B2E0A789201E for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:49:27 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4AFCC936.9060800@telus.net> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:49:26 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <2EB9AB3966984B91BB0C369B32CF12FC@AGB> In-Reply-To: <2EB9AB3966984B91BB0C369B32CF12FC@AGB> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Graham All Canadian 600m stations are operating under COMMERCIAL Developmental Licenses and are not able to communicate with the Amateur Service. The sad truth and why the entire experimental program in Canada is a waste of time. 73 Scott VE7TIL Graham wrote: > Can anyone clarify the situation as to who can work who > is this the same as the USA ? > > Tnx - G .. > > From the IARU web site > > As of 30 October 2009 Canada issued two licences in the Developmental > Service in the range 504-509 kHz. > > * VE1ZZ has been assigned VX9PSO and is reported on 504.6 kHz > * VO1NA has been assigned VX9MRC and is reported on 507.77 and > 508.5 kHz > > Two more stations, VE3OHH and VE7BDQ, are expected to become active soon. > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb07.mx.aol.com (rly-mb07.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.165]) by air-mb06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB061-d194af6caf374; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:43:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB075-d194af6caf374; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:43:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N782L-0006L9-B0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; 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Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:42:22 +0100 Message-ID: <20091108144222.cakveqhk8wo8gwc8@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:42:22 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <019f01ca6061$34a80040$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20091108120711.z1zbaakm0cw0cocg@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <01cd01ca6068$54f09a40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20091108141505.zsudabk1wg80k848@webmail6.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20091108141505.zsudabk1wg80k848@webmail6.kuleuven.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.240.168.12 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: daytime WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) it gets even better: GM4SLV copied my signal at 13:36 UTC over a 1102km path 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting Rik Strobbe : > My WSPR 0.2W ERP signal was copied by GM0LLJ (774km) at 12:58 UTC > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (rly-mg10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.116]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMG092-a3a4b12a95ea8; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:03:44 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG104-a3a4b12a95ea8; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:03:28 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEnAS-0002Ma-K1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:02:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEnAS-0002MR-6b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hallo paul ! many thanks fer info about my transmission. oe5odl ossi jn68rd Paul-Henrik schrieb: > LF > > OE5ODL is a nice audible signal on 137.7kHz. > > Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ > Vaasa / KP03SD > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df12.mx.aol.com (rly-df12.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.25]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDF072-5974b0e7e7e259; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 08:11:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF126-5974b0e7e7e259; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 08:11:28 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDe6q-0004J1-3i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:10:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDe6p-0004Is-OF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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2009 21:07:24 -0000 Message-ID: <004a01ca6249$d91531e0$8b3f95a0$@princeton.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcpiM4qAo5LIx7iVRcmnN6LimHNNuwAFXxWA Content-Language: en-ca X-Opwv-CommTouchExtSvcRefID: str=0001.0A020208.4AF9D627.0194,ss=1,fgs=0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: 500 kHz WSPR de VE1JF Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Rik--thanks for the note! Not tonight, Rik--I am committed to compared 160 WSPR with VE2DC in Qu= ebec (who will also be Participating in the 500 kHz experiments and has already copied an M0= there); anyhow, I Have to leave before 2200 for a meeting this evening. Tx is on 160 WSP= R and I'll turn spotting back on as I leave the house. (Still dial-up around here, so it's either in= ternet or telephone!) Would be happy to do it some other evening, though! How do you generate a WSPR signal on 500 kHz? 73, Jim VE1JF -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@b= lacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe Sent: November-10-09 18:23 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Jim and Hannelore Fisher Cc: g3xiz@yahoo.co.uk; rsgb lf group Subject: Re: LF: 500 kHz WSPR de VE1JF Jim, I noticed you on WSPRnet yesterday, congrats for copying SM6BHZ. Last night I got only 2 decodes from AA1A. But SM6BHZ is another league, more power and a far better location. So far my 200mW ERP WSPR signal has been copied by AA1A (FN42), K1JT= =20 (FN20) and VE1VDM (FN85). With 2 exceptions all decodes were between= =20 22:00 and 22:30 UTC. If WX stays dry I will be WSPR-ing tonight, any chance to take an =20 early start ? 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md09.mx.aol.com (rly-md09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.147]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD033-9234afdeead9; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:41:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD093-9234afdeead9; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:41:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N95ky-0006UT-1E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:40:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N95kx-0006UK-HA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:40:43 +0000 Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com ([64.12.78.142]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N95kw-0001pl-Bs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:40:43 +0000 Received: from imo-da03.mx.aol.com (imo-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.201]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nADNePrC024811 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:40:25 -0500 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-da03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id l.ca6.52dcd17f (37098) for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:40:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from White (g229111172.adsl.alicedsl.de [92.229.111.172]) by cia-db07.mx.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB078-90ea4afdee6228e; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:40:20 -0500 Message-ID: <96512D470572478EB84804542242B39F@White> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <004001ca646a$c6ec0cf0$3ab27cbc@niurhaxf0xcqlj> <006401ca64af$954964f0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:40:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: MarkusVester@aol.com X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: sp2kds Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01CA64C3.09F85370" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, LINES_OF_YELLING,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01CA64C3.09F85370 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Marcin, you might want to move down very slightly to avoid the collision on 13= 7.778: RA3YO 778.0 / 778.2 DFCW SP2KDS ~778.0 QRSS UA4WPF "W" 777.1 / 777.2 DFCW Good luck to all, Markus, DF6NM http://freenet-homepage.de/df6nm/Grabber.htm From: Andrey rn3agc=20 Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 11:20 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Re: sp2kds Hello Marcin, LF, Strong signal SP2KDS. 73 Andrey > Dear LF > Station SP2KDS will be today started from 21:00 on 137.700 (qrss3)= and later > 137.778 kHz (qrss60). > In time 20:00-21:00 search stations on 500kHz band. > -- > Vy 73! > Marcin SQ2BXI > (SP2KDS Team) >=20 > ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01CA64C3.09F85370 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Marcin,
 
you might want to move down very slig= htly to=20 avoid the collision on 137.778:
 
RA3YO 778.0 / 778.2 DFCW
SP2KDS ~778.0 QRSS
UA4WPF "W" 777.1 / 777.2 DFCW<= /DIV>
 
Good luck to all,
Markus, DF6NM
 
 
 

Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 11:20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: sp2kds

Hello Marcin, LF,
Strong signal SP2KDS.

73=20 Andrey

> Dear LF
> Station SP2KDS will be today starte= d from=20 21:00 on 137.700 (qrss3) and later
> 137.778 kHz (qrss60).
&g= t; In time=20 20:00-21:00 search stations on 500kHz band.
> --
> Vy 73!<= BR>>=20 Marcin SQ2BXI
> (SP2KDS Team)
>
>
------=_NextPart_000_0006_01CA64C3.09F85370-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df01.mx.aol.com (rly-df01.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.14]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF031-5284afa92ff250; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:33:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF015-5284afa92ff250; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:33:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8AUy-0001px-UI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:32:24 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8AUy-0001po-Fm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:32:24 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8AUw-0001A2-0t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:32:23 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 876D57B804B; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:32:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A778F3862; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:32:12 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id 305E918056; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:32:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from 69.100-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (69.100-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [87.64.100.69]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:32:12 +0100 Message-ID: <20091111113212.zxirqfc7uowwkswo@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:32:12 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "jwfisher@alumni.princeton.edu" Cc: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <20091110225713.CQ04R.5663.root@tormtz04> In-Reply-To: <20091110225713.CQ04R.5663.root@tormtz04> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 87.64.100.69 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: 500 kHz WSPR de VE1JF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Jim, the transverter is in the prototype / breadboard stage. It is original in the way that it is my own design, but it is just a =20 classic transverter: - Kenwood TS440 on 4.5MHz (in fact 4.5024MHz USB for WSPR) at minimum =20 power (abt. 1 Watt) - 30dB attenuator (1W to 1mW) - DBM (SBL-1) fed with a 4MHz xtal osc as downmixer to 500kHz (502.4kHz) - single transistor (BC550c) post amp, about 10mW out at 50 Ohm - 5 pole LPF - PA 10mW to 50W - 7 pole LPF - antenna I will be transmitting WSPR tonight (11-11) if WX stays dry. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting "jwfisher@alumni.princeton.edu NOT" : > transverter design original? could I see details? > > 11 November would be a possibility for me to monitor for you. > > 73, > > Jim > ---- Rik Strobbe wrote: >> Hello Jim, >> >> > Not tonight, Rik--I am committed to compared 160 WSPR with VE2DC in >> > Quebec (who will also be >> > Participating in the 500 kHz experiments and has already copied an >> > M0 there); anyhow, I >> > Have to leave before 2200 for a meeting this evening. Tx is on 160 >> > WSPR and I'll turn spotting back >> > on as I leave the house. (Still dial-up around here, so it's either >> > internet or telephone!) >> > >> > Would be happy to do it some other evening, though! >> No problem, we will try another night. >> >> >> > How do you generate a WSPR signal on 500 kHz? >> Kenwood TS440 on 4.5MHz into a homebrew transverter 4.5MHz --> =20 >> 500kHz + 50W PA >> >> 73, Rik ON7YD >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD083-b8c4af1cce613c; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:50:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD076-b8c4af1cce613c; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:50:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N5kus-0007Ek-Oz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:49:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N5kus-0007Eb-92 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:49:10 +0000 Received: from gv-out-0910.google.com ([216.239.58.186]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N5ktZ-0004V4-T6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:47:50 +0000 Received: by gv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c6so1046513gvd.38 for ; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:49:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=BTnbsFBuECzyt914fyt5uVYHy3mDanJP/W40mfopNLY=; b=lFUhExBMBLsd8jRniFQ7H+9uspy+TQhzVxc1f6dvBdZWn3P6HNc8ytfGDDc0ZzxsqA O/7kzFsngq0aYtvRxhb0FdG7IN4nRbf1cX6qFTlbaacpSgBfhr/I5tHoJh83Y7jeDVou f27DQ61U/Ou0gRjMvITRV5Z6RceRXY9z715LU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ZaI0eZz+G9qwHby3cVeD/Pb8lNcyHbvVINsV6GaBLd+jowEYLn5uXBPZlvE+AcKOXj ufGfd2/eAfe18Tn8TcxeKjIW3A9DXZ/HGogxgiL3CyoQJTlx9fVRwfnMkk6e7W96Ayr7 XYimfvhyTZkBKzwH9oPerXJ84KN1jeZ4cijxA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.170.28 with SMTP id q28mr197420hbe.149.1257360548216; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:49:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:49:08 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, ukmicrowaves@yahoogroups.com X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: "Poisson, Shannon, and the Radio Amateur" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f27bfcd4c08c0477901088 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d245.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001485f27bfcd4c08c0477901088 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks to all who responded, I do now have an E-copy. 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--001485f27bfcd4c08c0477901088-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (rly-ma01.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.44]) by air-ma07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA072-88a4aef49e19b; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:07:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA014-88a4aef49e19b; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:06:43 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N545k-0001VZ-Hd for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:05:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N545k-0001VQ-4k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:05:32 +0000 Received: from mailout01.t-online.de ([194.25.134.80]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N544H-0002Ev-Ls for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:04:02 +0000 Received: from fwd08.aul.t-online.de by mailout01.t-online.de with smtp id 1N545h-0008K1-02; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:05:29 +0100 Received: from df2py (E4KsU0ZBQhXadwzLwIu5pNnyJnIsqrsd-BbxxtoXpR6XFj4YoWXILYqKvnA6-3+ZxB@[80.187.101.101]) by fwd08.t-online.de with esmtp id 1N545R-0SMVlI0; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:05:13 +0100 From: "Wolf Ostwald" To: Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:06:48 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcpcAGRjzK57SRscROO72HbsH/1flA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-ID: E4KsU0ZBQhXadwzLwIu5pNnyJnIsqrsd-BbxxtoXpR6XFj4YoWXILYqKvnA6-3+ZxB X-TOI-MSGID: 0a6bd68f-3129-44c5-9bef-b51528375ccd X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: DI2BJ improved antenna Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0022_01CA5C08.C8751310" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01CA5C08.C8751310 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi folks ! I improved the ground system of the DI2BJ beacon on 505,030 kHz. I used a pipe into a deep water well for extra ground, measured some serious RF-current going into the wire connecting the water well. I hope this is a good sign ! Hope for more RX reports on the beacon, it will be active for a few hours after sundown and before sunrise. A reliable pattern will be established after initial testing and experience with the transmitting gear ! good MF and LF - DX for everybody ! de wolf df2py / DI2BJ ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01CA5C08.C8751310 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi folks !

I improved the ground syst= em of the DI2BJ beacon on 505,030 kHz. I used a pipe into a deep water well for extra ground, me= asured some serious RF-current going into the wire connecting the water well.= I hope this is a good sign ! Hope for more RX reports on the beacon, it will= be active for a few hours after sundown and before sunrise. A reliable pattern= will be established after initial testing and experience with the transmitting gear ! good= MF and LF  - DX for everybody !    de wolf  df2py /= DI2BJ

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_0022_01CA5C08.C8751310-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me05.mx.aol.com (rly-me05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.39]) by air-me09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME091-9bb4aff0f5d49; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:13:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME057-9bb4aff0f5d49; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:13:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9Oyv-0000k7-Mi for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:12:25 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9Oyv-0000jy-3F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:12:25 +0000 Received: from rekin26.go2.pl ([193.17.41.76]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9Oyt-0005zt-0r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:12:25 +0000 Received: from rekin26.go2.pl (rekin26.go2.pl [127.0.0.1]) by rekin26.go2.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36C2135D7C4 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:12:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from unknown (unknown [10.0.0.142]) by rekin26.go2.pl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:12:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from 58-178-124-188.rev.pro-internet.pl [188.124.178.58] by poczta.o2.pl with ESMTP id YGnhnb; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:12:20 +0100 Message-ID: <00af01ca6566$c4b3fcc0$3ab27cbc@niurhaxf0xcqlj> From: "Marcin" To: References: <004001ca646a$c6ec0cf0$3ab27cbc@niurhaxf0xcqlj> <006401ca64af$954964f0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:12:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-O2-Trust: 2, 62 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: sp2kds Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Andrey, LF Very thanks for capture SP2KDS Andrey. -- Vy 73! Marcin SQ2BXI > Hello Marcin, LF, > Strong signal SP2KDS. > > 73 Andrey > > > Dear LF > > Station SP2KDS will be today started from 21:00 on 137.700 (qrss3) and later > > 137.778 kHz (qrss60). > > In time 20:00-21:00 search stations on 500kHz band. > > -- > > Vy 73! > > Marcin SQ2BXI > > (SP2KDS Team) > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg11.mx.aol.com (rly-dg11.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.95]) by air-dg03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG033-6044b08f86f109; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:38:28 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG115-6044b08f86f109; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:38:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NC7wW-0000fn-NG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:37:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NC7wW-0000fe-Ce for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:37:12 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NC7wV-0002i3-Kp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:37:12 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA0244C8054 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:37:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA76F4C8103 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:37:05 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B08F831.8000009@online.fr> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:37:05 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: T/A [137 kHz] good conditions ! ( also ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF, Good conditions last night on 137 Khz ! "XDV" (G3XDV) dfcw60 ( on the european widows ) "KDS" (SP2KDS) qrss120 "XKO" (WD2XKO) qrss60 ( visible after 21:00utc ) "XGJ" (WD2XGJ) qrss60 "BOJ" (F8BOJ) qrss60 ( monstrous signal Claude ! ) 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (rly-ma03.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.47]) by air-ma10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA103-89e4b007cb795; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:12:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA038-89e4b007cb795; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:12:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9nJW-0002Pu-Nj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:11:18 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9nJW-0002Pc-7H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:11:18 +0000 Received: from mcgi72.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.209]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9nJU-0001tX-Hf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:11:18 +0000 Received: from mcgi72.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi72.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4ED21156E for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:11:10 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [91.77.88.87] by mcgi72.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:11:10 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:11:10 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <710152697.1258253442.86168408.14505@mcgi73.rambler.ru> <1091396655.1258293502.52410104.19007@mcgi61.rambler.ru> Message-Id: <959653683.1258323070.39654936.25212@mcgi72.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 137kHz grabber in SP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 G/E Jacek, LF! Looked your grabber now. OE5ODL and SP2KDX in QRSS-3 and 10 visible are very good and there is no ANY drift now! Your need to warm up your rx before use on 136 some hours up to finish drift. The real freq rule +/- more informative then voice-freq scale. We are don't know your dial freq and very difficult to calculate. Look to http://ra3yo.narod.ru/graber.html pse. His rx drifted more 5h some time! But he realize a real freq rule for more information. I wish you more success into grabber building! TNX for a new 137 kHz grabber. 73! Roman * Roman RW3ADB [Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:58:22 +0300]: > * Jacek Lipkowski [Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:15:14 > +0100 (CET)]: > > On Sun, 15 Nov 2009, Roman RW3ADB wrote: > > > > > Congratulation with the grabber started! > > > > Thanks! > > > > > Put your QTH locator to the page next time. > > > > It's on the left bottom side. The locator is KO02md > > overlooked, excuse! -) > > > > And put "offset" to Spectrum lab pse for the screening a real freq > > rule. > > > > This is a problem. The EKV03 drifts alot, and that would require me to > > either show an inaccurate frequency scale, or to recalibrate it > against > > a > > frequency generator every few hours. Better to leave it as it is. > > How many time is need to standby? > My FT897D have a visible drift in mode-120 only around 0.3-0.1 Hz per 10 > minutes. > Degen 1103 was drifted on 137 kHz around 2h and 1.5h on 500 to finished > visible drift into mode-3. > > > EW6GB on the grabber now (9 local time!) > > overslept ) > > > VY 73 > > > > Jacek / SQ5BPF > > > > > > TNX for details! > > 73! -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb05.mx.aol.com (rly-mb05.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.163]) by air-mb01.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMB013-d064b0b26f5204; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:21:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB052-d064b0b26f5204; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:21:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCj87-0003Nk-Ux for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:19:39 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCj87-0003Nb-3J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:19:39 +0000 Received: from nina.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.76]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCj84-0006Pm-JR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:19:39 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by nina.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id nAO0JTOn011942 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:49:29 -0330 Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:49:29 -0330 (NST) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: MRC Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-1719232024-193270360-1259021969=:4587" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ---1719232024-193270360-1259021969=:4587 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Hi Lubos, Thank-you for the FB report which is surprising considering my 'poor' TX aerial and earthing system. 73 Joe On Mon, 23 Nov 2009, Lubos OK2BVG wrote: > > > > > > > Hello Joe, Rik, LF! > MRC signal is as strong as EU QRSS station now. It is unbelievable! > > Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS > > **** BTW *** > "The strong vertical lines are "made in Sweden" ;-)" > > Rik, where are this vertical lines in your grabber from? I saw somethink= similar here as well. > Those lines was very strong, periodic and they finished around the midni= ght. > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows 7: Zjedodu=B9te si ka=BEdodenn=ED =FAkoly. Kter=FD po=E8=EDta=E8= je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD? > http://windows.microsoft.com/shop ---1719232024-193270360-1259021969=:4587-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me01.mx.aol.com (rly-me01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.34]) by air-me07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME074-9974af9b4262fa; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:43:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME013-9974af9b4262fa; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:42:48 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7vfK-0008UV-6z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:42:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7vfJ-0008UL-FQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:42:05 +0000 Received: from smtp824.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.9]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7veW-0000JC-Jc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:41:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 48104 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2009 18:41:57 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=oWD+0Pafe/sZFQnYY543i/hGUYG94rjOrA2bHOpfdocbynNNRpoLHJxGcm25GibmA87UfbJjZVzH3G20eDo8KsX08iOhAk7C9mazbmAnO4POckOB/s/9XpNBalLCRKyMZSYyG70Bjb+7EySH484/sLDJ5c2vdfRKRQmUBGoNP+c= ; Received: from unknown (HELO IBM7FFA209F07C) (c.ashby435@81.152.249.223 with login) by smtp824.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Nov 2009 18:41:56 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: 9STUSnaswBBSd6nO_2gAC20jmYlWRjmg8d5iYd8s.rl181aR6Sw- X-YMail-OSG: brcHXxAVM1k4ldkugZD70USf80Z1gkyktr6Dk2AkhgQN63awq31WNqDlRpppzZN3WevHFqOVegdJLa4Ps6n0gGqiaUC3W3R_YRC07qK2ghZb6nVLB.sSvuGTKdsZpV_pPvzpcpYv.ZquI9XNgrJt_qwcmuxkoXfUUREUSFdStp2FgV4EOTEoSQZdRLYHRMyK0Qqgk2MScqDR3rJTrLduOqYLT52KbJF36ROauJ_NhcfRRjHVPbOCOHM5jaA_sGyDxGbmOhiukLE4e2ypAxBO0SUEyY6yTTX2ocKBZg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "Chris" To: References: <112811.74996.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <003801ca6232$239b5630$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:41:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0028_01CA6235.7B7DEF40" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.4 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING, LINES_OF_YELLING_2 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01CA6235.7B7DEF40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mal, Some while ago when I commented a strong signal in the band and in bea= con mode was causing me problems, you quickly told me I was talking no= nsense, saying I wouldn't have such problems if I had a decent filter! Chris, G4AYT. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 6:18 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Dennis These Beacon Appliance unattended machine operators are causing QRM= galore to the Radio Amateur in QSO mode. The present band has insufficient bandwidth to accommodate unattende= d beacon modes, with real time QSO'S one can avoid QRM or QRX until th= e QRG is clear, whereas Beacons just belch out repeative gibberish and= the same persons respond via the reflector daily with the same old re= ports. You are quite right to make your point known.=20 73 de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 4:12 PM Subject: LF: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Congratulations Chris. Most wspr stations seem to congregate at the top end of the band= and are not too much trouble. Jim G7NKS is the biggest pain as he= sits on my xtl frequency and is so close. Maybe a compromise would= be for people using beacons to keep to one segment of the band (hopef= ully not 502.2 kHz -hee) 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Chris Osborn=20 To: LF Group=20 Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 6:03 PM Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO LF It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using= 600m. This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which wer= e 600m / 80m. Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 an= d EI0CF - No. 998. QSO break-down according to mode: 928 CW, 34 RTTY and 5= QRSS 600m STATIONS My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations= and many of these go back to the start of the UK 600m allocation in= March 2007. Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (exclu= ding beacons). Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never hea= rd of again: G3KZU, G3YHV . . . Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT: G3= UNT, G3VTT, G4GDR. . . MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work th= e same stations many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of= my total contacts. My most frequently worked stations are: GW3UEP - 120 G3KEV - 102 M0FMT - 90 G3ZWH - 80 = (alas now SK) G3DXZ - 67 G4GDR - 60 EI0CF/ GI4DPE - 51 M0J= XM - 48 G3UNT - 45 G3VTT - 38 CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy= a cross-band QSO: DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . . and our few EU MF friends are still active: ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . . WSPR ON 600m I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm fo= r the WSPR mode was never achieved for hand sent Morse (CW), which af= ter all is the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF= marine band. If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger sta= tions operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m ban= d then I guess it may be time for me to QSY. 73 Chris G3XIZ ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01CA6235.7B7DEF40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Mal,
Some while ago when I commented a str= ong signal in=20 the band and in beacon mode was causing me problems, you quickly told= me I was=20 talking nonsense, saying I wouldn't have such problems if I had a dece= nt=20 filter!
Chris, G4AYT.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mal=20 hamilton
Sent: Tuesday, November 10,= 2009 6:18=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: G3XIZ -= 1000 th MF=20 QSO

Dennis
These Beacon Appliance unattended= machine=20 operators are causing QRM galore to the Radio Amateur in QSO=20 mode.
The present band has insufficient= bandwidth to=20 accommodate unattended beacon modes, with real time QSO'S one can av= oid QRM or=20 QRX until the QRG is clear, whereas Beacons just belch out repeative= gibberish=20 and the same persons respond via the reflector daily with the same= old=20 reports.
You are quite right&= nbsp;to make=20 your point known.
73 de mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 10,= 2009 4:12=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: G3XIZ - 10= 00 th MF=20 QSO

Congratulations Chris.
 
Most wspr stations seem to congre= gate at the=20 top end of the band and are not too much trouble.   = ;=20 Jim G7NKS is the biggest pain= as he sits on=20 my xtl frequency and is so close.   Maybe a compromise= would be=20 for people using beacons to keep to one segment of the band (hopef= ully not=20 502.2 kHz -hee)
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 08= , 2009 6:03=20 PM
Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000= th MF=20 QSO

LF

It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 10= 00th QSO=20 using 600m.
This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually= all of=20 which were 600m / 80m.

Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with= runners=20 up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0CF - No. 998.

QSO break-down ac= cording to=20 mode:     928 CW,  34 RTTY  and &n= bsp; 5=20 QRSS

600m=20 STATIONS

My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists= a total of=20 59 stations and many of= these go=20 back to the start of the UK  600m allocation in March 2007.=
Of=20 these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excludin= g=20 beacons).
Many stations on my list came up only briefly and= were never=20 heard of again:  G3KZU, G3YHV . . .
Others were once ver= y active=20 but have subsequently gone QRT:  G3UNT, G3VTT, G4GDR. .=20 .

MOST FREQUEN= TLY=20 WORKED

With so few active operators it is obvious= that one=20 will work the same stations many times and the top 10 stations= account for=20 70% of my total contacts.
My most frequently worked stations= =20 are:

GW3UEP - 120     G3KEV -=20 102      M0FMT - 90   &n= bsp;=20 G3ZWH  -  80  (alas now SK)
G3DXZ  &= nbsp;=20 -   67     G4GDR -  =20 60      EI0CF/ GI4DPE  - =20 51   M0JXM - 48
G3UNT    - &nbs= p;=20 45     G3VTT  -   38

<= SPAN style=3D"TEXT-DECORATION: underline">CROSS-BAND AND EU=20 STATIONS

There are a few 'regular' stations who li= sten to=20 600m and enjoy a cross-band QSO:
DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ,= PA0LCE,=20 G3TVF . . .

and our few EU MF friends are still active:ON4KTJ,=20 OR7T and OZ8NJ. . .

WSPR=20 ON 600m

I personally find it sad that the present= level of=20 enthusiasm for the WSPR mode was never achieved for  hand= sent Morse=20 (CW), which after all is the mode which I call to mind when thin= king of=20 the old MF marine band.
If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts,= with more=20 and stronger stations operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment= which is=20 the 600m band then I guess it may be time for me to QSY.

= 73 Chris=20 G3XIZ







<= BR>
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Any dx watchers/listeners about tonit= e? I will be=20 qrv on CW and QRS3 later.
QRG 502.57 and QSX 7033
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------=_NextPart_000_00EF_01CA63AE.EDE9C3E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME032-9d64afd86f755; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:19:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME092-9d64afd86f755; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:19:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8yqT-0003a6-9e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:17:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8yqS-0003Zx-QV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:17:56 +0000 Received: from web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.123]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8yqS-0007bp-H6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:17:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 39068 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Nov 2009 16:17:50 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1258129069; bh=/P129sEOPBPhCaPHF/q7polIk3EgA8/zUuSYWBfVHtg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LHys0QAWqPhfshWl87e/CMn6riN6Hh1qH3M9m4Keqqece7VgCUAYHiVmkOQfDV7hTHWENYyZCXr8g4YarZXtTqGYZ2PMd+DlvrE4A3SZ28FjCRgh4HgmX46O/qXJqu8850ZDNc9lTcHcKfH+I8gTEpFJWEre0rhOhR0G1BSmP14= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=C6DoYDpGxMohgHzXKkEyJgr/IlLiyN8AlM+HmgMHC77+UMamSd0Br/TiEkLPQG2z5BZEJhI2QR6lXJ+jGWEP8j1mjGes8POZHIy8+gD9n9XY4LBQz7LHleTZOSHAD+7xocsiBgn85fzqtnNYnqCQe/OUj3j2UWpqxPRsDIt3PSU=; Message-ID: <961313.39040.qm@web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: xCo6zwsVM1n322dl2XRtsZ77Mi5vU0C4LBxjl9j9hZN5oHJ222wQ2uSvVhNI.379.LS4OZduYbMugPRoA33ckqKPuuRcA3nTULBsUjYabVjkJhp.Wu7U2UsG__G2x.StZcoHoqoxwvnYf.NQi9qgEbgTtr7lRAfCGkmJLaFUiihflPOdAgcMAk4CKJ5BTU66NQF0WBxCLv2BrT8hdgV0xjyH2zTm6XUvc3qC4tepFIzhTFxnJl1NRlqBz6l6xeaQA5.39sdsqQsQfW2uiLYMzfMJuJVXtT6glf1EZJwBouISDNywI2oI9ur5INkjhK7L2ltRFVZUVFdLbw-- Received: from [86.152.86.139] by web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:17:49 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:17:49 -0800 (PST) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1182672792-1258129069=:39040" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d247.1 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-1182672792-1258129069=:39040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi LF Group =A0 Putting Quantum Mechanics aside for a mo. I know this is bit academic sinc= e my chance of working the Americas on 500 is pretty remote but are these= stations Amateurs or not Amateurs? Are they actually Pirating but using= a commercial call?=20 =A0 The whole setup looks=A0decidedly dodgy to me. If they are Pirates how wou= ld it affect my license if the opportunity arose for me to work one and I= did? The only place I know where I am licensed work a non Amateur station= is on 5megs and that=A0can only be a UK Mill station. =A0 It's a question of how much you value your license I suppose. =A0 73 petefmt --- On Fri, 13/11/09, Graham wrote: From: Graham Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature st= ations ?? To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 14:53 Scott SO.... Matter and antimatter cannot coexist at close range for more than= a small fraction of a second because they collide with and annihilate eac= h other, releasing large quantities of energy in the form of gamma rays Got it=A0 now .. gamma rays are electromagnetic ..hence radio waves are pr= oduced .. which may suffer=A0 (constructive interference) or (destructive= interference) resulting in large variations in amplitude at the point of= observation ..... Thanks=A0 ! G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott Tilley" Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:29 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Are the=A0 new VE stations able to=A0 qso=A0 with=A0 othe= r amature stations ?? >=20 > Hi John >=20 > VX is in developmental service (same idea as US stations), EI in amateur= service... Like positive and negative antimatter they don't mix. >=20 > 73 Scott >=20 >=20 > John P-G wrote: >> Scott Tilley wrote: >>> Hi Graham >>>=20 >>> All Canadian 600m stations are operating under COMMERCIAL Developmenta= l Licenses and are not able to communicate with the Amateur Service. >>=20 >> So VX9MRC shouldn't be having regular CW QSOs with EI0CF? >>=20 >> Still confused.... >>=20 >> John >> GM4SLV >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 =20 --0-1182672792-1258129069=:39040 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi LF Group
 
Putting Quantum Mechanics aside for a mo. I know this is bit ac= ademic since my chance of working the Americas on 500 is pretty remote but= are these stations Amateurs or not Amateurs? Are they actually Pirating= but using a commercial call?
 
The whole setup looks decidedly dodgy to me. If they are= Pirates how would it affect my license if the opportunity arose for me to= work one and I did? The only place I know where I am licensed work a non= Amateur station is on 5megs and that can only be a UK Mill station.<= /SPAN>
 
It's a question of how much you value your license I suppose.
 
73 petefmt


--- On Fri, 13/11/09, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.u= k> wrote:

From: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able= to qso with other amature stations ??
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 14:53

Scott

SO.... Matter and antimatter cannot co= exist at close range for more than a small fraction of a second because th= ey collide with and annihilate each other, releasing large quantities of= energy in the form of gamma rays

Got it  now .. gamma rays ar= e electromagnetic ..hence radio waves are produced .. which may suffer&nbs= p; (constructive interference) or (destructive interference) resulting in= large variations in amplitude at the point of observation .....

Th= anks  !

G ..

------------------------------------------= --------
From: "Scott Tilley" <sthed475@telus.net>
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:29 PM=
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Subject: Re: LF: Are the = new VE stations able to  qso  with  other amature stations= ??

>
> Hi John
>
> VX is in developmental= service (same idea as US stations), EI in amateur service... Like positiv= e and negative antimatter they don't mix.
>
> 73 Scott
>= ;
>
> John P-G wrote:
>> Scott Tilley wrote:
>= ;>> Hi Graham
>>>
>>> All Canadian 600m sta= tions are operating under COMMERCIAL Developmental Licenses and are not ab= le to communicate with the Amateur Service.
>>
>> So VX= 9MRC shouldn't be having regular CW QSOs with EI0CF?
>>
>&= gt; Still confused....
>>
>> John
>> GM4SLV>>
>>
>
>




=20 --0-1182672792-1258129069=:39040-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc01.mx.aol.com (rly-mc01.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.85]) by air-mc03.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMC033-d534b11059b187; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 06:12:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC013-d534b11059b187; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 06:12:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NELDJ-0003hO-QA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:11:41 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NELDJ-0003hC-7s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:11:41 +0000 Received: from psmtp08.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.22]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NELDH-0006bE-9r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:11:41 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp08.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KTT00JD7GF9I8@psmtp08.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 12:11:33 +0100 (MET) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 12:10:55 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <742FDC1EB26A473F980353AA7755E1D1@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: XKO 28-11.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_vYTXKPTpuW5nLEoH1bf5Iw)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --Boundary_(ID_vYTXKPTpuW5nLEoH1bf5Iw) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ItnH4uwD2qg9Zgcs2ydPLQ)" --Boundary_(ID_ItnH4uwD2qg9Zgcs2ydPLQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi Dex,LF Capture xko henny pa3cpm best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: XKO 28-11.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. --Boundary_(ID_ItnH4uwD2qg9Zgcs2ydPLQ) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Hi Dex,LF
Capture xko
henny pa3cpm
best 73s
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<7B9E530A13DE479BA05DFA579C50586F@JimPC> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <590EA4755AB54809BC2887F55D65D99A@AGB> <9afca2640911181055y33bb49e4q7707d46e339826b0@mail.gmail.com> <1519387EC57944BE82527527C2D6184D@AGB> In-Reply-To: <1519387EC57944BE82527527C2D6184D@AGB> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:21:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: T61AA 0.503929 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Graham, LF Group, T61AA is bona fide and QRV on HF WSPR mode, apparently on 40m at the moment - I reckon S51CN has not updated his frequency information correctly. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 7:10 PM Subject: Re: LF: T61AA 0.503929 To quote ' This is not a drill .. This is the real thing '.. Is your RX on ? G ... T61AA Ross B Shasdarak Kabul, Afghanistan From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDC104-b3b4b12bcc21ea; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:26:28 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC087-b3b4b12bcc21ea; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:26:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEoSR-0002po-KY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:25:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEoSR-0002pf-4U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:25:15 +0000 Received: from lnx500.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de ([130.83.156.225]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEoSP-0004ON-5t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:25:15 +0000 Received: from FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.212.129]) by lnx500.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.14.2/8.14.2/HRZ/PMX) with SMTP id nATIPBN7007910 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:25:12 +0100 (envelope-from schaefer@hst.tu-darmstadt.de) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de) by FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de with AVK MailGateway; for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:25:12 +0100 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:25:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AA6E@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> In-Reply-To: <003701ca70d9$6487b570$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: LF Propagation literature? Thread-Index: Acpw2jjwuF0jnzeYT7ucRZCELiTCGQARkt6g From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= To: X-AVK-Virus-Check: AVB 19.596;29.11.2009 X-PMX-TU: seen v0.99a by 5.5.8.383112, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2009.11.29.181218 X-PMX-SPAMCHECK: outgoing mail X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: LF Propagation literature? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Lowfers,=20 Is there any good literature in the web (web-site or pdf or book) about th= e propagation on LF? Best would be, if it is created by a ham for the hams= ! 73, Stefan/DK7FC =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb11.mx.aol.com (rly-mb11.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.169]) by air-mb01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB011-d374affde9c2b1; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:57:44 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB113-d374affde9c2b1; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:57:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9cmX-0005je-K1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:56:33 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9cmX-0005jV-5d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:56:33 +0000 Received: from fmmailgate04.web.de ([217.72.192.242]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9cmV-00072d-7T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:56:33 +0000 Received: from web.de by fmmailgate04.web.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 520FB620F4AA for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:56:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from [91.55.49.210] by freemailng2503.web.de with HTTP; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:56:25 +0100 Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:56:25 +0100 Message-Id: <1484283699@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: =?iso-8859-15?Q?Horst_St=F6cker?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Organization: http://freemail.web.de/ X-Provags-Id: V01U2FsdGVkX1+kNpV+wewUSr916Q6ZXmhiaq3aEPmf26SdecsGx0AeC0wns CehGxAGgb0whRQn35ravz4uiKfWVLHXYZ4BjT2bEA8etqFTUZAFRkSelNSXG Q== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: SP2KDS - Not any idea what the additional signs mean ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thanks Marcin. I'll be watching for your signs tonight. But what made me ask was not that traditional CW but QRSS3 like the hole= transmission. If you dont' have the grabs I sent before, I can sent them ones more. vy73 Horst > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: "Marcin" > Gesendet: 15.11.09 11:02:05 > An: > Betreff: LF: Re: SP2KDS - Not any idea what the additional signs mean ? > Dear Horst, LF > This is a traditional CW ID (15wpm) in introduction and end transmision= . > Tekst: SP2KDS. Local hams plised this ID. >=20 > Station SP2KDS will open today in the evening and at night:, on 137,700= and > 137,7785kHz. > -- > Vy 73! > Marcin SQ2BXI >=20 >=20 > Yesterday I sent some captures which show SP2KDS in QRSS3 with a good > signal - but some addional signs tht I can not interprete. > Anyone an idea? > Horst >=20 >=20 > _____________________________________________________________ > DSL-Preisknaller: DSL-Komplettpakete von WEB.DE schon f=FCr > 16,99 Euro/mtl.!* Hier klicken: http://produkte.web.de/go/02/ >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 ______________________________________________________ GRATIS f=FCr alle WEB.DE-Nutzer: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://movieflat.web.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me01.mx.aol.com (rly-me01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.34]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINME042-9974b1025572b3; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:15:50 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME013-9974b1025572b3; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:15:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NE6Gm-0006xD-15 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 19:14:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NE6Gl-0006x4-Kb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 19:14:15 +0000 Received: from web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com ([69.147.97.73]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NE6Gk-0002k9-An for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 19:14:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 5498 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Nov 2009 19:14:06 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1259349246; bh=hGBst6ENIA0/detLy4iN4gea0LpKBWnMV2mjYGDSOKs=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vBEUuPdu374xuSbxzkAhu9sgJyWSZ7/OitfXK07cM3G6E+rSG818lyCv2wfvVhTma9IwZBUS5t6jgw2iZloBd5JrYiksA+LueQBFt75B3Iwq4Vl5O/cuQn6m8DKSNVpvxUBtdVOjBb7f1tokEOvCkklARa+fEe3oO8errDUfiOE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FZPgL+waHkvopdyAk2/rkrn/ToY6aLg/KHW6al2gVT3HpejHqffjqovMaKReVPQGR5Glf/OD9gp5oqbRGTX47wwR/mWHYKxyFEQWfXVGOBQkhKDTirNfvb3kBVmDZVsWoGiu0Sz+zWwuS3Hizy0HLQ4v4wijtWmT4fmZ6s9BbTc=; Message-ID: <806352.5294.qm@web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: c9d7cSUVM1kE95T8_BEUD7qYtoz5B6h1M0LaLNycOEHkvCSct3cg66FeDEBxVOsqHQppRSG0CrZhW3uf8sp5_WxN17DWW4O_5wGzT_W7MISQHd1Rzpu52YhDlLBBztaFe0gHq.N1C1BF1qeUJyTPwA15auETj8xFE8VQKihA3IX7t4bMz8v4fe5YijRIgKBfgD3tecKfEvTUlzVnCmbp5VWX3yCu57sG5nrpj8l2r4MZaEN7jQern4u0OKY_WIXB0m3YdWh8iLvZ3fMeXI0PhhXATNp8ZX90QH3TCo_TykXmIX5TP5jxyNXkfzotUIk8DaEBKQKsxEWovC9Nv1MGsz6zXYR6kxDiJ5iURaHd3JlFAjj5jtDTZXPmuWJUjiCDGOii715Q3VbX8Cjq2NUSC9CfHDuAIx_2SrFdzL0AXYQ9fQ-- Received: from [98.70.117.41] by web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:14:06 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:14:06 -0800 (PST) From: Andy - KU4XR To: lowfer@mailman.qth.net, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: How do I use Spectrum Lab as a VLF Soft Receiver ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m269.1 ; domain : yahoo.com DKIM : fail Hello All: I have recently been trying to get a soundcard VLF receiver going. I found a SAQ receiver on the web designed by Johan - SM6LKM. It works good I suppose never having tried this before. I can hear " Radio noise " in other words, it actually sounds like a receiver. When I connect enough coils in series, with a variable cap to ground to make a pre-selector, The noise floor will rise 20 dB when I tune the Cap. and you can see the peak move across the spectrum display. However, that's as far as you can go, You can't choose a sound card, it automatically chooses the windows default card, and I haven't found a way to use DSP filtering with it, since everything is based on the sound card alone. Now for Spectrum Lab, It has a built in " SID " receiver, and the built in DSP filters work in the program. I just can't get it to work !!!!! All I can get is low freq. hum, or digital noise. It makes no difference with or without an Ant. I've changed sound card sample rates, and FFT settings, nothing works for me. Does anyone have any suggestions for me to try ?? Thank you. 73 to all ::: Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN. LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 185.29866 KHz ( QRSS-60 ) Coordinates: N: 35* 43' 54" - W: 84* 3' 16" http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr http://webpages.charter.net/ku4xr/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db10.mx.aol.com (rly-db10.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.85]) by air-db07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB073-af14b004b621e1; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:41:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB107-af14b004b621e1; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:41:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9k1r-0008Lo-LX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:40:51 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9k1r-0008Le-5V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:40:51 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9k1o-0000e2-UU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:40:51 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3528.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8ECAD1C0008E for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:40:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3528.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 818591C0008F for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:40:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.53.205]) by mwinf3528.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 381751C0008E for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:40:43 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091115184043229.381751C0008E@mwinf3528.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <0CADF4DD71FD43A2A8384463754F6344@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <1043CB7D895D4161B1C87CDD140332A2@AGB> In-Reply-To: <1043CB7D895D4161B1C87CDD140332A2@AGB> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:40:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: Re: LF: Running mW wspr Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_010B_01CA6623.227175B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_010B_01CA6623.227175B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2009-11-15 18:30 G0NBD 0.503898 -27 0 IO83lk 0.2 = GM4SLV IP90gg 766 7 =20 2009-11-15 18:32 G0NBD 0.503898 -28 0 IO83lk 0.2 = GM4SLV IP90gg 766 7 =20 Crazy system ..... spot just in from John ! tnx G .. =20 From: Graham=20 Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 6:24 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Running mW wspr Running wspr at 100 % duty , not sure of the power to the Ae as th= e needle on the power meter is not moving , the first 3 small div= isions on the bird43 are 10 watts , the needle is still inside the= -0- no rx as I have a set of spurs right over the wspr band at= the moment=20 spots from G4WGT 33k G3RIk 65k M0BMU 270 ! G ..=20 ------=_NextPart_000_010B_01CA6623.227175B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 2009-11-15 18:30   G0NBD   0.503898   -27   0   IO83lk   0.2   GM4SLV   IP90gg   766   7 
 2009-11-15 18:32   G0NBD   0.503898   -28   0   IO83lk   0.2   GM4SLV   IP90gg   766   7 
 
Crazy system .....  spot = just in from=20 John  !
 
tnx  G ..  
 
 

From: Graham
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 6:24 PM
Subject: LF: Running mW wspr

Running   wspr at 100 % dut= y , not sure=20 of the  power to the  Ae as the  needle on the  po= wer meter=20 is  not  moving , the  first 3 small divisions on= the =20 bird43 are 10 watts  , the needle is  still inside the = -0- =20 no rx as I have a set of  spurs  right over the  wspr= band =20 at the  moment
 
spots  from G4WGT 33k  G3RI= k  65k=20 M0BMU 270  !
 
G ..




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"'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'" Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:01:41 +0000 Thread-Topic: DK7FC/p calling CQ on 137.700KHz Thread-Index: AcpogZCfDB23Gg+4Rg22UU2Rmnq1ng== Message-ID: <254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C6EE369C@exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net> Accept-Language: en-US, en-GB Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US, en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 172.27.136.25 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: DK7FC/p calling CQ on 137.700KHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Jim you cant really calculate these thing s becayuse there are just to many varibles. The only way it to measure the loss of the untuned aerial with and rf bridge and then measure the same format out in the open...same ground same weather same season etc etc. The Yanks put their aerials through the trees because they use loops and the voltage on the wires in many order lower so the current lost to the tree is much smaller. (I think) Jim Moritz used to have some dramtic measurements taken on 136kHz before and after pruning his "aboretum" May thumbnail approack says put a vertical at least as far away from trees, walls, roofs etc as it is high. Not aways easy! Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Cowburn" To: Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 3:19 PM Subject: LF: Losses due to ant in tree? > Hi All, > > > > The vertical 5m section of my inverted L runs up into the branches of a > silver birch tree. The wire goes over a large bough at 5m or so and then > comes out of the branches for some 22m down to a 4m high pole attached to > the garage. > > > > Has anyone a guesstimation of the losses in signal caused by running the > wire through the tree? > > > > Using vertload and tophat2 I calculate the antenna to be around 0.25% > efficient but this assumes it is in free space. Can anyone suggest a figure > for the additional loss due to tree heating! > > > > The vertical element is actually sloping at about 20 degree from the tree > down to the loading coil. The length is nearer 6metres but the vertical > height over ground at the bough is about 5m. > > > > (Santa may be bringing me a set of swaged poles with which to build mark 2, > well away from the silver birch!) > > > > With best regards > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (rly-ma02.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.46]) by air-ma06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA062-8954b0703a02e4; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:01:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA027-8954b0703a02e4; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:01:22 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBaal-0001cC-B0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:00:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBaak-0001c3-TB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:00:30 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBaak-0002oH-92 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:00:30 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFF827B802A for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:00:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 925C531E702 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:00:20 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id 752CA18056; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:00:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from 65.13-180-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (65.13-180-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [91.180.13.65]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:00:20 +0100 Message-ID: <20091120220020.zn8j8euh7os4wgk8@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:00:20 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <20091120141648.8WGQY.1557635.root@mp17> <007f01ca6a1b$34a0b8d0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <009a01ca6a22$07a90470$0517aac0@desktop> In-Reply-To: <009a01ca6a22$07a90470$0517aac0@desktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 91.180.13.65 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR a QSO mode not just beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Jim, I agree. This is far more than the information that is exchanged in a =20 DX-pedition pile up, where the exchange is often limited to (a part =20 of) the calls and the obligatory 59(9) report. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting James Cowburn : > Dear All, > > According to the ARRL, WSPR contacts, if verified as two way, will quali= fy > towards DXCC awards as they consider these to be a QSO mode and not simp= ly a > beacon. > > As there is an exchange of callsign, locator and signal strength then th= at > was deemed sufficient by the ARRL to qualify for DXCC and as a QSO in a= data > mode much like RTTY or PSK31 for example. > > This was discussed at the recent RSGB conference in a session on WSPR. > > With best regards > > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton > Sent: 20 November 2009 19:54 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: Re: WD2XES WSPR 136.0 > > Recently there has been an upsurge in wspr BEACON appliance operators an= d > your suggested frequency area is not the place for them. The bottom end > would keep Beacon acty out of the way. There would still be room for the= odd > EU qrs operator, can't say I have heard many in recent years. The freq= area > 137 - 138 k/cs is frequently occupied by Russian and other EU dxers for > inter Country working using CW and QRS and 136.5 - 137 for local CW > working. > NA stns wishing to work EU would still use 137 - 138 on CW and QRS and= not > be clobbered by wspr carriers going ON/OFF. > I hope you see the logic > G3KEV > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:16 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Re: WD2XES WSPR 136.0 > > >> Thanks for the suggestion, but I doubt it will cause you any more > interference than it has for the last 5 years. From our perspective, the > lower end of the band has long been reserved for EU to NA operation. >> >> John, W1TAG >> >> ---- mal hamilton wrote: >> > om I woud suggest you Beacon at the extreme bottom end of the band an= d > not >> > in the middle of the CW and QRS DX portion. >> >> > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db06.mx.aol.com (rly-db06.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.81]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB103-acd4b0874e528; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:17:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB063-acd4b0874e528; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:16:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBzBa-0004Bs-H7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:16:10 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBzBa-0004Bj-3F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:16:10 +0000 Received: from smtp6.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.190]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBzBY-0003ix-RP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:16:10 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3603.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 630267000081 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:16:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3603.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 516577000083 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:16:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.50.96]) by mwinf3603.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 0E1A57000081 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:16:00 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091121231601578.0E1A57000081@mwinf3603.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <4A7814FFC4834A01841AEE5D333DFA75@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <785212.33618.qm@web28105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <4B086C3F.3080309@g3ysx.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <4B086C3F.3080309@g3ysx.org.uk> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:15:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR BEACONS Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Know I see why this is called 'the reflector' same old things just= keep=20 bouncing round ! Ps Quite a lot of funny calls on the lf/mf activity list ton= ight=20 ... not wspr 2 I hope ? -------------------------------------------------- From: "Stewart Bryant" Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 10:39 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: WSPR BEACONS > > M0FMT wrote: >> I am with Mal. WSPR has no place on the UK 501 / 504 Kc/s Amateur= =20 >> /_Communication_/ Band. The Norwegian Licence has got it right - CW= only! >> 73 petefmt > > > This is not what Ofcom calls it. In their recent consultation they= say: > > "Agenda Item 1.23 - Amateur Service in parts of the band 415 =96 526= .5 kHz > > "5.19 Radio amateurs use radio for experimental purposes and to prov= ide=20 > communications in support of emergency services in some situations." > > So unless we are supporting an emergency, 500KHz seems to be a band= for us=20 > to conduct experiments on. > > - Stewart/G3YSX > > >=20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD024-9134afd73771e8; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:56:09 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD073-9134afd73771e8; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:55:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8xWl-0002mx-B4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:53:31 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8xWk-0002mo-Lr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:53:30 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.128]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8xWi-0005qd-1x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:53:30 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3408.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8AFF21C00085 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:53:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3408.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7D9C71C00086 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:53:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.59.9]) by mwinf3408.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 39E681C00085 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:53:21 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091113145321237.39E681C00085@mwinf3408.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <2EB9AB3966984B91BB0C369B32CF12FC@AGB> <4AFCC936.9060800@telus.net> <4AFD125A.3060402@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <4AFD6D5F.3020302@telus.net> In-Reply-To: <4AFD6D5F.3020302@telus.net> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:53:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Scott SO.... Matter and antimatter cannot coexist at close range for more than a small fraction of a second because they collide with and annihilate each other, releasing large quantities of energy in the form of gamma rays Got it now .. gamma rays are electromagnetic ..hence radio waves are produced .. which may suffer (constructive interference) or (destructive interference) resulting in large variations in amplitude at the point of observation ..... Thanks ! G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott Tilley" Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:29 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? > > Hi John > > VX is in developmental service (same idea as US stations), EI in amateur > service... Like positive and negative antimatter they don't mix. > > 73 Scott > > > John P-G wrote: >> Scott Tilley wrote: >>> Hi Graham >>> >>> All Canadian 600m stations are operating under COMMERCIAL Developmental >>> Licenses and are not able to communicate with the Amateur Service. >> >> So VX9MRC shouldn't be having regular CW QSOs with EI0CF? >> >> Still confused.... >> >> John >> GM4SLV >> >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (rly-mf05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.175]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMF102-95c4b14271323f; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:12:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF052-95c4b14271323f; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:12:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NFCaM-0008Rl-46 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:11:02 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NFCaL-0008Rc-Nl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:11:01 +0000 Received: from mx01.infotech.at ([213.174.240.1]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NFCaL-0003Lm-3r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:11:01 +0000 Received: from [213.174.228.217] by mx01.infotech.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NFCaK-0005z7-1t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:11:00 +0100 Message-ID: <4B1426ED.8000707@inext.at> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:11:25 +0100 From: Oberreiter Oswald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4B140806.10012.1E82610@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> In-Reply-To: <4B140806.10012.1E82610@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: DX test 136.318kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) hallo mike ! your transmission xdv 10-15 db o.n. qsb 73 oe5odl jn68rd Mike Dennison schrieb: > I will be transmitting "XDV" overnight (1800 - 0900 UTC) tonight > using QRSS60 on 136.3180kHz. DX reports are welcome. > > Mike. G3XDV > ========== > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (rly-mf03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.173]) by air-mf06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF063-9524b0979b327f; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:49:50 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF038-9524b0979b327f; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:49:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCGYC-0004F0-CR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:48:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCGYC-0004Er-0Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:48:40 +0000 Received: from mailout03.t-online.de ([194.25.134.81]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCGYB-0005H8-EL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:48:39 +0000 Received: from fwd06.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.t-online.de with smtp id 1NCGY8-0004Xt-04; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:48:36 +0100 Received: from e7010 (Vmd+zeZCYhRWRpgUGxQzQFddHx51LlKd6FeeDezMpgur9q4bkEZ+lwAQfd1oYF7ZGR@[84.147.190.15]) by fwd06.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1NCGY2-1PDWlM0; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:48:30 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01ca6b9c$013681a0$6402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:48:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: Vmd+zeZCYhRWRpgUGxQzQFddHx51LlKd6FeeDezMpgur9q4bkEZ+lwAQfd1oYF7ZGR X-TOI-MSGID: fc52a95e-5aff-4980-92b8-80a523410cef X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: DI2AG WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6BA4.62B63F80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6BA4.62B63F80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear MF, DI2AG beacon is on air in WSPR with 0.4W ERP, duty cycle 33%= . Stops tomorrow morning. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6BA4.62B63F80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear MF,
      =     DI2AG beacon is on=20 air in WSPR with 0.4W ERP, duty cycle 33%. Stops tomorrow morning.
73    Walter DI2AG /= =20 DJ2LF
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6BA4.62B63F80-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (rly-mf07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.177]) by air-mf08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF084-96c4b09f10b32b; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:19:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF072-96c4b09f10b32b; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:18:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCOV0-0007Rt-28 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:17:54 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCOUz-0007Rk-Ir for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:17:53 +0000 Received: from col0-omc1-s6.col0.hotmail.com ([65.55.34.16]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCOUx-0007Yn-Ol for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:17:53 +0000 Received: from COL122-W23 ([65.55.34.8]) by col0-omc1-s6.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:17:42 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:17:42 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Nov 2009 02:17:42.0098 (UTC) FILETIME=[22E9DB20:01CA6BE3] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_e9ba1654-7ccf-4be6-b746-fb61fd889b0c_" Subject: LF: WD2XKO_RA3YO X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --_e9ba1654-7ccf-4be6-b746-fb61fd889b0c_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_fa64f5bd-61b3-4c18-b20f-6717f67d66c3_" --_fa64f5bd-61b3-4c18-b20f-6717f67d66c3_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Joe, Dmitry, LF! I have just captured signal from WD2XKO and RA3YO on the same snapshot. Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS =20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: Kter=FD po=E8=EDta=E8 je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD? Dal=B9=ED infor= mace. http://windows.microsoft.com/shop=3D --_fa64f5bd-61b3-4c18-b20f-6717f67d66c3_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Joe, Dmitry, LF!
I have just captured  signal from WD2XKO an= d RA3YO  on the same snapshot.

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:46:29 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <001101ca7028$c9a70750$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: References: <4B1007CD.13398.2751AC@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 12:45:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Test 136.318 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01CA7028.B28BF580" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01CA7028.B28BF580 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Mike, LF, I have late switched on the receiver. Only the transfer termination... 73 Andrey >I am testing this evening by sending 'X' at QRSS120 on 136.3180kHz. > If all goes well I will transmit until about 2230UTC. 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------=_NextPart_000_0575_01CA66B7.5C772180-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (rly-mg05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.111]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG102-a154afc6e443db; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:21:44 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG057-a154afc6e443db; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:21:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8g94-0007Sh-AG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:19:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8g93-0007SY-PJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:19:53 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8g93-0000KX-5E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 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inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 87.64.102.123 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: ENI model 240L Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello all, I am looking for the circuit diagram of the ENI model 240L amplifier. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC031-b334b09bccb350; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:36:18 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC077-b334b09bccb350; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:35:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCL1M-00069S-1F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:35:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCL1L-00069J-LO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:35:03 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCL1K-0006Sr-H8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 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RA3YO I believe- at 6200Kms
 
Im listening to DCF39 at the moment and the= qsb rate is=20 quicker than recent and some dBs down on this 7600kms path my pre dawn= . Perhaps=20 things arent as bad as I feared...!
 
Good morning! Laurence KL1 X in BY3A Tanngu= China=20 OM89UA
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Bodin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <2746F3E144D3480AB85CD466920B1313@lindavideo> In-Reply-To: <2746F3E144D3480AB85CD466920B1313@lindavideo> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 4kv diode Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) On the topic of unusual diodes... http://www.avtechpulse.com/faq.html 73 Johan SM6LKM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db10.mx.aol.com (rly-db10.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.85]) by air-db07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB074-af24b054803366; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:29:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB108-af24b054803366; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:28:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NB71N-0008MA-M8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:26:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NB71N-0008M1-AJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:26:01 +0000 Received: from mail-gx0-f210.google.com ([209.85.217.210]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NB71H-0007Ef-D9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:26:01 +0000 Received: by gxk2 with SMTP id 2so191488gxk.4 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:25:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=24hLezp0Xnv0mjB6DNBj2zqiat4tsIbobhITGE5wyHQ=; b=dOkVbEvULlvRaHnu7SaKwJP1Bwb6Aax4R+W7lMLZi/HewraUE8aUA4g3gaQMmVE82G T0Zf50ty2TACt3tbfq1hooaccFVPS+7YqAblbOQTfDWL8URniCzYFfTC5RRhKhu3U/tp RU+SkC3UD6Lkyum4KgwS9h7y+IgWLBNRegHAg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=IehnmjoR+fJ7Vdjvu+delENIVVT79hVwFw29KtQTfv8Nup/wnGGOndfMVnvhUMKOqs gtVNZHGd+VKbyr915ws1v+vu4KQfpuuz+3VrYY1x9tUndI3UnZZzGGQG+NSX63kVOmC5 oeVVzxyfz5nkkTeYJxJ4KDdPWe+7mAHGjkoVM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.19.4 with SMTP id 4mr78192ybs.216.1258637139598; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:25:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B04EADA.4090707@telus.net> References: <4B04EADA.4090707@telus.net> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:25:39 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70911190525s5bbf2768gcfe5e7150eb8f784@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: Joe don't drop the soap! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d255.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) The Canadian sense of humor, how's it goin eh? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-ZvAVcBIrQ Take off for The Great White North! - 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 1:51 AM, Scott Tilley wrote: > See the 600m Buttulator for the latest in this high seas drama... > > RAC speaks... > > 73 Scott > http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/ > > - From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME081-9dc4b06dff647; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:29:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME098-9dc4b06dff647; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:29:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBYCt-0008WL-CJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:27:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBYCt-0008WC-0w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:27:43 +0000 Received: from out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.240]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBYCs-0001oa-Ea for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:27:43 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgcFAAZuBktOlMup/2dsb2JhbACCJiuGS4RqBsZ8hDwE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,260,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="104026619" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([78.148.203.169]) by out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 20 Nov 2009 18:27:36 +0000 Message-ID: <005f01ca6a0f$21bf2870$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:27:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: qrv Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005C_01CA6A0F.21706C30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_005C_01CA6A0F.21706C30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Now cq on cw 137 khz and QAP 137.777 for dx qso mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_005C_01CA6A0F.21706C30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_005C_01CA6A0F.21706C30-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de11.mx.aol.com (rly-de11.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.147]) by air-de08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE083-5144b0a89cb3de; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:10:50 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE115-5144b0a89cb3de; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:10:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCYfq-0000jb-L3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:09:46 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCYfq-0000jS-3Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:09:46 +0000 Received: from smtp831.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.13.166]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCYfo-00025V-RU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:09:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 41424 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2009 13:09:39 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=GL+2Sd4C+2uJkif6M1Bp1P84Icqwp556yzETeZ0Zuqav2wwrSdDn/G32KnQ0WV1O0xCixWRkRTiE/RQnlWaY8kaxmYkLq0SDnXbZDTMjj5Z/fjaLxgdtYBlAAZfbysjkOyJRzJ4RD1Dqa3GnjPc87lPhxVnhRKBcm3JRQbGJ5T4= ; Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.180.119.35 with login) by smtp831.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Nov 2009 13:09:39 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: qKIhhNCswBB2TTHr2BORWcGGR2mpopxhCcunGIxpCKQYiG07Q7UOhNo- X-YMail-OSG: cy.ivQcVM1mNX_V9XdUI95bmXiAhZzY0y69MUEspPN3TNEn4ySbwm9vbSRiyNh5.pbtfDEH2bmptvdW3wcpM8TrrQp1sN8IUoGQ_VsJVDqkyBTYxrxz0O8eTkt6wx1KxYLVGu.FiIFcH2jvF8q7470CsOTfDhhJ.qmNEttuR9ZIvJiY0_t0q0q927Z8neMPuVPxGRwvtukR9hzsxhqY4Z4MB.wfIeH0VCB3pdIFW0Oi0hrlztmA6aykyr_7w_FVqNKiNRLbS6AQXFuLw9QVpfeemjTghxNNXuCf8 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <7C21B1DD169746B0967307E2AB9E7FDD@JimPC> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <4B09D502.8030200@toya.net.pl>,<006101ca6bd9$9ab3cb70$0900a8c0@lark> In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:09:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: N-turn TX Loop Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-2"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Piotr, LF Group, Considering only the conductor losses for the moment, in principle increasing the number of turns of the loop by a factor N increases the radiation resistance by approximately N^2, while the loss resistance of the conductors increases by approximately N times, giving an improvement in efficiency of a factor N. However, if you instead connected the same N turns in parallel, you would have a single-turn loop with N parallel conductors, with a loss resistance 1/N times that of a single conductor loop, but with the same radiation resistance. This would also give rise to the same N times efficiency improvement. So from the conductor loss point of view, increasing the number of conductors in the loop should improve efficiency by much the same amount, it would not matter much whether the turns are connected in series or parallel. However, the multi-turn loop inductance is also approximately proportional to N^2, if the turns are fairly close together. The current in the multi-turn loop will be reduced by a factor of N to achieve the same radiated power. Most of the loop impedance is due to its inductance, so the overall voltage across the loop will increase by a factor of N for the same radiated power.This means a greater electric field strength around the antenna, and so increased environmental losses due to the multiple turns - dielectric loss increases as the square of the applied electric field. So assuming a constant value of environmental loss (1.5ohm in your calculation) is not realistic, if a significant proportion of this resistance is due to dielectric losses, which is probably the case for most practical antennas. Probably the main virtue of the transmitting loop is the reduced environmental loss due to it being a relatively low-impedance, low-voltage device. so to maintain this advantage, it would seem to be a better idea to have multiple parallel turns rather than series turns. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU > > This sunday evening i decided to do some simple math and it turns out > > that such a N-turn TX loop should work ( at least on the paper) > > The radiation resistance is proportional to the square of so called > > "effective > > height" and this last term can be easily derived for a loop i.e. it is > > equal to > > 2*pi*A*N/lambda where A denotes area closed by a loop a N is the number > > of turns > > so the radiation resistance for a single turn loop reads as > > 320*pi^4*A^2/lambda^4 > > For the N-turns the radiation resistance obtained for a single turn is > > multiplied > > by N^2. Ok, the R (ac) is increased as we increase N but this is linear > > with respect to N > > and therefore we should have gain in the radiated power. > > (there is an implicit assumption made: the loop is "small" i.e. the > > current is constant) > > > > i did some calculations: assumed TX power ( and later, perfect match to > > the loop) 200 Watt > > environmental loss: 1.5 Ohm, diameter of the wire d = 3 mm, rectangular > > shape of the loop > > i.e 10 meters by 20 meters ( less optimal than square or circle ) > > so A = 200 sq.m For N =1 (classical tx loop) we get R(AC) = 0.62 Ohm > > ( Rac formula taken from ARRL Antenna Handbook, f = 137.7kHz) > > radiation resistance RRAD = 55.5 microOhm, total R loss = 2.12 Ohm, > > efficiency is 0.0026% and radiated pwr 5.2 miliWatts, I = 9.7 Amp. > > Next, I took N =3 so the wire length is changed from 60 meters to 180, > > everything else was kept the same and now one gets: R(ac)= 1.85 Ohm so > > R loss = 3.35 Ohm > > RRAD = 499.5 microOhm, efficiency increased to 0.015% and radiated pwr > > abt 30 miliWatt, I=7.7 Amp > > I am sorry bothering you but i simply would like to learn > > where is the 'catch' here - if there is one ... > > 73 de Piotr, sq7mpj > > qth: Lodz /jo91rs/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me05.mx.aol.com (rly-me05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.39]) by air-me09.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINME091-9ba4b12ee0c17a; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:56:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME056-9ba4b12ee0c17a; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:56:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NErjl-0004OJ-PL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:55:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NErjl-0004OA-EZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:55:21 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NErjk-0004u4-MV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:55:21 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE2B94C815B for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:55:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F9FA4C8035 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:55:15 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B12EDC3.8030005@online.fr> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:55:15 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001801ca7139$d8e15100$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> In-Reply-To: <001801ca7139$d8e15100$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: f8boj info's Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Claude , Monstrous signal !=20 I hope that our friends of the other side of pond , will copy you ! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj Claude Berthebaud a =E9crit : > Good evening LF > beaconing QRSS60 137776.20hz=20 > Claude F8boj JN16WA > =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de08.mx.aol.com (rly-de08.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.144]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE053-4f74afa11371e9; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:20:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE086-4f74afa11371e9; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:19:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N81r1-00015k-4z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:18:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N81r0-00015b-Fd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:18:34 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N81qF-0001p5-3K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:17:48 +0000 Received: from edmwaa03.telusplanet.net ([75.157.140.241]) by priv-edmwes25.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091111011829.YXXG7884.priv-edmwes25.telusplanet.net@edmwaa03.telusplanet.net> for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:18:29 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.67] (d75-157-140-241.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.140.241]) by edmwaa03.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 0525107623C0DDC3 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:18:28 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4AFA10E4.6080703@telus.net> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:18:28 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001101ca621e$dcdc3380$96949a80$@princeton.edu> In-Reply-To: <001101ca621e$dcdc3380$96949a80$@princeton.edu> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AMATEUR_PORN=1.473 Subject: Re: LF: 500 kHz WSPR de VE1JF or who the heck is this guy? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.7 required=5.0 tests=AMATEUR_PORN,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Jim As a member of RAC, I wonder where you get the authorization for making=20 a statement such as this: 'Regulatory Affairs wing of RAC, who are Industry Canada=92s gatekeepers'?= ?? RAC has no regulatory power nor formal stating with IC. They wish they=20 did, but they do not and as a member my vote is they should never have. I would also like to make it clear that the Canadian Developmental=20 Service experiments are strictly that 'Developmental Service' and have=20 no legal ability to communicate with those in the amateur service. It=20 concerns me to see reports of undisciplined experimental operators=20 attempting or completely QSOs with stations in the amateur service in=20 EU. This was the main reason I opted out of the 600m experiment in the=20 first place. Another reason I withdrew my application for experimentation on 600m was= =20 this very attitude from RAC and its complete lack of willingness to=20 advocate for real amateur radio experiments. Instead they presented us=20 with watered down commercial developmental licenses advocated by those=20 with zero prior interest in LF and zero operating experience on LF. With= =20 no ability to explore REAL communication with other amateurs world wide=20 and a complete lack of respect for and knowledge about the existing LF=20 experimenters group that exists in Canada I withdrew in disgust of the=20 entire situation as the egos in Ottawa and elsewhere have taken over... If the chair or the band planning committee would have had any real=20 interest in LF then were where they years ago when REAL amateur LF=20 experiments where being conducted when we pleaded for others to get=20 involved? Had you had a real interest you would have your answers already as the=20 systems have been developed and will simply sit idle at this station=20 until there is REAL amateur radio on 600m. I certainly hope you don't entertain to start planning the future 2200m=20 band without consulting with the long term users here in Canada. 73 Scott VE7TIL CN89dk Jim and Hannelore Fisher wrote: > > Congratulations on #1000, G3XIZ! > > I chair the Radio Amateurs of Canada (RAC) LF/MF/HF Band Planning=20 > Committee, and several of us are interested in participating in the=20 > recently-authorized experiments on 500 kHz. We are receiving active=20 > support on this effort from the Regulatory Affairs wing of RAC, who=20 > are Industry Canada=92s gatekeepers. This period is preliminary to the= =20 > coming world meeting where this will be discussed. We hope to get=20 > several stations transmitting 25% of the time and a lot more across=20 > Canada receiving, so it should add to WSPR=92s activity and spotting at= =20 > this frequency. > > I=92m not sure what you were saying about hand-sent CW vs. WSPR; I also= =20 > love CW but am amazed what WSPR can offer. Other authorized Canadian=20 > participants in this program are already using CW, and most of my=20 > 100,000+ QSOs over 53+ years have been CW, but we are expecting our=20 > little group to propose two frequencies (we must be specific) and use=20 > 503.9 WSPR beacon mode, break in using the WSJT WSPR mode, and QSY to=20 > our =93working frequency=94, where we can use any mode within the 1 kHz= =20 > permissible bandwidth. Contenders for working frequency QSOs might=20 > vary from some of the JT modes to OLIVIA to CW depending on what=20 > signal levels we are experiencing with feasible antennas and our power= =20 > limitations. The purpose of all this will be able to understand=20 > whether 600M can offer utility for ham radio-scale stations for=20 > emergency, and how its usability varies with conditions including aurora= . > > Last night, using my 160M 1/2w sloper aimed at the Pacific Rim, I=20 > spotted SM6BHZ over 40 times on 502.4+. > > We are looking for info on successful approaches to generating WSPR=20 > and other modes on 500 kHz. I=92m presently thinking of a transverter=20 > with my transceiver=92s transverter output, but I=92m open and others in= =20 > our group may want to try other approaches. > > 73, > > Jim, VE1JF > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG041-9ef4b0894432cd; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:31:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG011-9ef4b0894432cd; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:30:45 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NC1Gt-0005rD-1B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:29:47 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NC1Gs-0005r4-Bt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:29:46 +0000 Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com ([205.188.105.143]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NC1Gq-0004MD-6s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:29:46 +0000 Received: from imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (imo-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.136]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nAM1TU59017569 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:29:30 -0500 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id l.d02.67c52be9 (65097) for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:29:28 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:29:28 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: F4DTL@aol.com X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: SP2KDS 137kHz Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_d02.67c52be9.3839edf8_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --part1_d02.67c52be9.3839edf8_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1258853367" -------------------------------1258853367 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Hello Marcin your capture. =20 F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC7400 Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010 Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 22/11/2009 02:09:24 Paris, Madrid, bxi@go2.pl a= =20 =E9crit : Hello Nicolas, Andrey, Dave, Ed, LF TNX raport Nicolas, Andrey. Very thank QSO Ed RU6LA and Dave G3YXM. Nov calling CQ 137,700kHz QRSS 10. 73! MArcin SQ2BXI -------------------------------1258853367 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= FONT id=3Drole_document color=3D#000000 size=3D2 face=3DArial>
Hello Marcin your capture.
 
F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP

RX : Icom IC7400
Ant: Wellbrook LFL=20 1010

Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 22/11/2009 02:09:24 Paris, Madrid, bxi@go2.p= l a=20 =E9crit :
H= ello=20 Nicolas, Andrey, Dave, Ed, LF
TNX raport Nicolas, Andrey.
Very tha= nk QSO=20 Ed RU6LA and Dave G3YXM.

Nov calling CQ 137,700kHz QRSS 10.
73!=20 MArcin SQ2BXI
 
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boundary="_23fbe479-9f8e-4943-a2a5-d516434ee319_" Subject: RE: LF: T/A [137 kHz] good conditions ( re also ! ) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --_23fbe479-9f8e-4943-a2a5-d516434ee319_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_51f11553-00df-4cbf-8177-f7eace0dca85_" --_51f11553-00df-4cbf-8177-f7eace0dca85_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Jean-Pierre, LF! You are right, the conditions were SUPER! I also saw the stations, you wrote about them. I have never seen all those= stations on the one snapshot before. Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS ********************* > Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:24:37 +0100 > From: jpm.f1afj@online.fr > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: T/A [137 kHz] good conditions ( re also ! ) >=20 > Hello LF, >=20 > Good conditions last night on 137 Khz ! >=20 > "XKO" (WD2XKO) qrss60 > "XGJ" (WD2XGJ) qrss60 > "XES" (WD2XES) dfcw60 > It is great pleasure of finding the actors of my beginnings LF! > Miss Joe (NA) and Jay (XES) so that the table is complete! > Thank you Sirs!!!!. >=20 > 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj >=20 > NB : For information, the captures are always filed here : > http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Nov=E1 Windows 7: Kter=FD po=E8=EDta=E8 je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD? Dal=B9= =ED informace. http://windows.microsoft.com/shop=3D --_51f11553-00df-4cbf-8177-f7eace0dca85_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Jean-Pierre, LF!
You are right, the conditions were SUPER!
I= also saw the stations, you wrote about them. I have never seen all those= stations on the one snapshot before.

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:24:37 +010= 0
> From: jpm.f1afj@online.fr
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o= rg
> Subject: LF: T/A [137 kHz] good conditions ( re also ! )
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> Hello LF,
>
> Good conditions last night on= 137 Khz !
>
> "XKO" (WD2XKO) qrss60
> "XGJ" (WD2XG= J) qrss60
> "XES" (WD2XES) dfcw60
> It is great pleasure= of finding the actors of my beginnings LF!
> Miss Joe (NA) and Ja= y (XES) so that the table is complete!
> Thank you Sirs!!!!.
&g= t;
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
> NB : For informa= tion, the captures are always filed here :
> http://jpmere.on= line.fr/LF/
>
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with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N5jyI-0006r7-6H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:48:40 +0000 Received: by mail.ebirds.it (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 411D057CE3; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:48:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ebirds.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74A0557CD9 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:48:34 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ebirds.it Received: from mail.ebirds.it ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mamba02.ebirds.it [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Uudlrzkfqkxc for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:48:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from imac2 (host185-41-static.24-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it [87.24.41.185]) by mail.ebirds.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE6F57CB8; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:48:33 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:48:32 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Marco IK1ODO -2 In-Reply-To: <4AF1BA0A.8020207@usa.net> References: <57a24ca70911040825i8280573r7c52559a04b70d6c@mail.gmail.com> <4AF1BA0A.8020207@usa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091104174833.EDE6F57CB8@mail.ebirds.it> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: "Poisson, Shannon, and the Radio Amateur" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Others would enjoy too :-) - very curious, indeed. 73 - Marco IK1ODO At 18:42 04-11-09, Alberto di Bene wrote: >Warren Ziegler wrote: > >>Andy, >> I can get a copy from the M.I.T. library but it may be a few days >>before I get over there... > >Would it be asking too much for a publicly downloadable copy ? > >TNX. > >73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de11.mx.aol.com (rly-de11.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.147]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE053-5144b0654e6fc; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:36:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE115-5144b0654e6fc; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:35:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBOvW-0004d5-7Q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:33:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBOvV-0004cw-8u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:33:09 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBOvT-0005cz-T4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:33:09 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD5D551C002 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:32:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from PC_van_Rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-106.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.106]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0711F3863 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:32:58 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:33:03 +0100 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <00b301ca6915$df7b7440$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> References: <000501ca67ba$e4817db0$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <002e01ca682b$c42ac460$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <00b301ca6915$df7b7440$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091120083258.C0711F3863@smtps02.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 QRSS10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jay, good copy with the usual QSB. 73, Rik At 13:43 19/11/2009, you wrote: >T/A enthusiasts > >Thanks to Rik, Andrey, Pat, Ralph (and others for trying) from the >Tuesday night QRSS3 session. Very >surprised to see the signal received in Russia! > >Tonight WE2XGR/2 will transmit in QRSS10 mode from ~ 2130 to ~ 2300Z >and QRSS3 from ~2300 to ~ 0030Z >on 506.5 kHz. > >The QRSS10 transmission (letters XGR) will take about 4-1/2 minutes >which may be longer than the >T/A QSB cycle to western EU. It will be interesting to see if QRSS10 >might be too slow for T/A work. >As usual, any and all reports are appreciated. > >Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Andrey rn3agc" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 3:33 AM >Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 > > > > Hello Jay, Rik, LF, > > Captures at 00.32 and 01.42. > > Rik, here frequency 506501. > > > > 73 > > Andrey / KO85sv > > > > > >> T/A enthusiasts > >> > >> WE2XGR/2 will beacon in QRSS3 mode tonight on 506.5 kHz from ~ 2130 to ~ > >> 0030 Z. Reports appreciated. > >> > >> Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd10.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDD102-b9c4b12b8972c7; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:08:43 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD096-b9c4b12b8972c7; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:08:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEoBT-0002dc-AO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:07:43 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEoBS-0002dR-Rc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:07:42 +0000 Received: from col0-omc1-s10.col0.hotmail.com ([65.55.34.20]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEoBQ-0004CT-3m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:07:42 +0000 Received: from COL122-W26 ([65.55.34.9]) by col0-omc1-s10.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:07:33 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:07:33 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4B124CC8.6060106@online.fr> References: <002201ca70da$b4515150$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf>,<4B124CC8.6060106@online.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Nov 2009 18:07:33.0439 (UTC) FILETIME=[D2E0DCF0:01CA711E] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_12753036-82c0-4dcc-9ebb-0fad38c81966_" Subject: RE: LF: LF T/A [137kHz] Grabber failed ! X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_12753036-82c0-4dcc-9ebb-0fad38c81966_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Jean-Pierre, LF! Yes, I thought, something was wrong, becouse I noticed, that your grabber was off. I made a guess, your PC had been broken. I am glad, that your grabber is ready again. Well done! 73! Lubos, OK2BVG ******************************** > Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:28:24 +0100 > From: jpm.f1afj@online.fr > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: LF T/A [137kHz] Grabber failed ! > > Hello LF , > > This night , the grabber "planted", cause is due to storm ! > The K9AY broken ! at hour that it is repaired , ready for > the next night ! > > 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj > _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: Který poèítaè je pro vás ten pravý? Dal¹í informace. http://windows.microsoft.com/shop --_12753036-82c0-4dcc-9ebb-0fad38c81966_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Jean-Pierre, LF!
Yes, I thought, something was wrong, becouse I noticed, that your grabber was off. I made a guess, your PC had been broken.
I am glad, that your grabber is ready again. Well done!

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG

********************************

> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:28:24 +0100
> From: jpm.f1afj@online.fr
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: LF T/A [137kHz] Grabber failed !
>
> Hello LF ,
>
> This night , the grabber "planted", cause is due to storm !
> The K9AY broken ! at hour that it is repaired , ready for
> the next night !
>
> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
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Dal¹í informace. --_12753036-82c0-4dcc-9ebb-0fad38c81966_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (rly-dc01.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.30]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC073-aff4b0aab8c242; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:34:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC013-aff4b0aab8c242; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:34:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCavC-0001Ql-6q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:33:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCavB-0001Qc-Qv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:33:45 +0000 Received: from mail-gx0-f210.google.com ([209.85.217.210]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCavA-0003Zp-Nu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:33:45 +0000 Received: by gxk2 with SMTP id 2so2979630gxk.4 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 07:33:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rctZHraJweaQEVZ68QQ7cO1Geim8GhKO0zkwh0wdnxk=; b=dTn6hg+aQclHyN4sr2Buyc5UM8bNbmHISjCUvgxvCMHcJfoWqs0z65TPaHo4tNbCvt fGImVwwEMLvZemizcu4v5Gl0+/zw98goBhO43pa7rKGVSeaXdhFmCzV66eFFlAgerk7D EznwDDwmPfdZ/uc8IEjSN36noUQgCmqWGDLH8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=j7SaRUAYHK6YvxZCPElvIwAQiwO0YoR0x4h4qA8c5s8Zv+lugJpFHh1eQt1fIdPsp6 DMxsfI2k41u/QwoV82PeZmx1IaWtC/X6PyO8HHwISChoBxMyqlfJA69fNlXp3Ghg5kRc r5y/X3A8OqNK7l8tlNEjJzEjzHs48yXP9IUVk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.10.42 with SMTP id 42mr8826458ybj.115.1258990416388; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 07:33:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9E569DBC0A864E55B79D40E3B0F0CB60@ns94d01ae4d850> References: <9E569DBC0A864E55B79D40E3B0F0CB60@ns94d01ae4d850> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:33:36 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70911230733q34750093j8b4ba6b30c720433@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XGJ 23-11.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m260.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Henny, Excellent capture, good LF conditions! Thank you! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2009/11/23 henny van elst : > Hi Warren, > capture XGJ > Henny cpm > 73s > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden > verzonden: > XGJ 23-11.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen > het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. > Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe > bijlagen worden afgehandeld. -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (rly-mf01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.171]) by air-mf07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF073-93f4b004dd1108; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:52:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF015-93f4b004dd1108; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:52:02 -0500 Received: from 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------=_NextPart_000_011D_01CA6495.875E7660-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (rly-mg07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.113]) by air-mg06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG061-a214b07f6ab23a; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:18:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG073-a214b07f6ab23a; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:18:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBqm4-0005mK-Bf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:17:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBqm3-0005mB-O3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:17:15 +0000 Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBqm2-00011Q-0S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:17:15 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-2.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.2]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091121141208.IVUW27507.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-2.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:12:08 +0000 Received: from [81.109.247.175] (helo=desktop) by know-smtpout-2.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBqh5-0003yP-Mz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:12:08 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: References: <4B07ABA4.4060102@online.fr> <004601ca6ab3$a160b400$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:12:03 -0000 Message-ID: <004501ca6ab4$9a81dd20$0517aac0@desktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <004601ca6ab3$a160b400$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: Acpqs8knZsmKgX6HSoukgdkBILRk7AAAKiww X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=wV9FcBFsAAAA:8 a=MX4yy2ZXkm7vzrftXhcA:9 a=J73SypRWOW9Xi8uUlzoA:7 a=_ddOQhjW1WwdmTg52C3MMbElQToA:4 a=wJEB6GBnoWQA:10 a=KGHlO6L4b5AA:10 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=W_ZxIn_LcXcA:10 a=l3F7mrdXTu-K6gIN:21 a=1e5WzPRC5isxYwyu:21 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 How do you know they are unattended? Jim -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton Sent: 21 November 2009 14:05 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO Two unattended machines had a QSO!! Is that what you mean. g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" To: Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 1:52 PM Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO CanI suggest you read thoroughly the documentation on how the mode works before making claims about the database.and validity. The database can only be updated by stations decoding and reportoing, and if each QSO partner has a reciprocal report in the database for near-adjacent time intervals , then they MUST have been in contact with eachother and cannot be classed as anything bu a valid QSO. Its impossible to have achieved this in any other way. Please read all the documentation first. Andy www.g4jnt.com This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health and safety police 2009/11/21 Wolf Ostwald : > Hello group ! > > > > I am not an expert with WSPR at all. But I followed the discussion regarding > false detection of calls thru the database. > > To my understanding the WSPR operator has NO way to really find out whether > the computer came to the right conclusion about the calls received, or > whether it just judged by means of plausibility. We humans have no sense for > phaseshift, that means we have to believe the machine. > > I think that the database in the background is like a walking stick for the > blind. > > Of course it's a new and exciting technology, but I doubt that it is on one > and the same level with a regular exchange and therefore should not be > considered equally verifying a valid contact. > > My two pence worth de wolf df2py > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v125.8) with ESMTP id MAILINMG031-a1e4b068e58286; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:41:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG068-a1e4b068e58286; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:40:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBSmZ-0005zx-5U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:40:11 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBSmY-0005zn-Fn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:40:10 +0000 Received: from qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.96]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBSmX-0000ni-06 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:40:10 +0000 Received: from OMTA23.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.74]) by QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 7PSk1d0041c6gX859Qg2U4; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:40:02 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([76.23.233.102]) by OMTA23.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 7Qny1d0032DDHkk3jQnyLM; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:47:58 +0000 Message-ID: <008b01ca69de$93caad30$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <492835.52192.qm@web28106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:40:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: 'Sporadic incidents' Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0087_01CA69B4.AADCB060" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0087_01CA69B4.AADCB060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pete The WE2XGR license specifically permits communications with other stations...including amateurs stations. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ----- Original Message ----- From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 6:33 AM Subject: Re: LF: 'Sporadic incidents' Hi Scott So we still treat all these beacon only licenced stations out of North America as Pirates if they try a two-way QSO, as far as UK experimental licence holders are concerned....... eh? Probably our authority is ambivalent so long as we don't operate out of band as I think some has already said on this reflector. Thanks for the info and the Canadian insight. 73 es gl petefmt --- On Fri, 20/11/09, Scott Tilley wrote: From: Scott Tilley Subject: LF: 'Sporadic incidents' To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Friday, 20 November, 2009, 1:15 Hi All Industry Canada has ruled... See the 600m Buttulator for the latest emission... Good day eh? Scott VE7TIL CN89dk http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/ ------=_NextPart_000_0087_01CA69B4.AADCB060 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Pete
 
The WE2XGR license specifically permi= ts=20 communications with other stations...including amateurs=20 stations.
 
Jay W1VD  WD2XNS =20 WE2XGR/2 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 M0FMT=
Sent: Friday, November 20, 20= 09 6:33=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: 'Sporadic=20 incidents'

Hi Scott
 
So we still treat all these beacon only licenced sta= tions out=20 of North America as Pirates if they try a two-way QSO, as= far as UK=20 experimental licence holders are concerned....... eh?
 
Probably our authority is ambivalent so long as we don't= operate=20 out of band as I think some has already said on this reflector= .
 
Thanks for the info and the Canadian insight.
 
73 es gl petefmt
 
 
 

--- On Fri, 20/11/09, Scott Tilley=20 <sthed475@telus.net> wrote:

From:=20 Scott Tilley <sthed475@telus.net>
Subject: LF: 'Spo= radic=20 incidents'
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Frid= ay, 20=20 November, 2009, 1:15

Hi All

Industry Canada has=20 ruled...

See the 600m Buttulator for the latest=20 emission...

Good day eh?
Scott
VE7TIL CN89dkhttp://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/



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Try it now. =3D --_8180505e-e10c-4f57-9486-8a1cf848fc53_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (rly-dc01.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.30]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC034-afe4b02bfe23a; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:45:17 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC012-afe4b02bfe23a; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:23:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAPsj-0003Ro-Km for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:22:13 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAPsj-0003Rf-3c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:22:13 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAPsh-0000w8-Me for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:22:13 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.200] (rx2-v.twatt.home [192.168.1.200]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD1003B512 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:22:07 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4B02BF9E.5020701@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:22:06 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <9afca2640911170243q3b4e2c95kb2668b937e727070@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9afca2640911170243q3b4e2c95kb2668b937e727070@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 136kHz WSPR tests Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Roger Lapthorn wrote: > Dear all, > > Very encouraged by my results at 500kHz, I'd like to try some "low ERP" WSPR > tests on 136kHz using the same small antenna and transverter (slightly > modified). Let me know and I'll be watching! Cheers, John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db06.mx.aol.com (rly-db06.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.81]) by air-db07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB073-acf4b03b7d3185; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:01:26 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB065-acf4b03b7d3185; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:01:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAgN9-0000WD-V3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:58:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAgN9-0000W4-GC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:58:43 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAgN3-0005pF-ON for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:58:43 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9161651C00B for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:58:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from PC_van_Rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-106.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.106]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7282031E703 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:58:15 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:58:17 +0100 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: References: <017801ca66fb$0bf91c60$0517aac0@jimdesk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091118085815.7282031E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Jim, LF group, I have noticed "double receptions" of my WSPR signal from a number of stations. When it occurred the ghost signal was always 100Hz higher and was 33-36dB weaker. As the frequency shift and signal strength difference was the same at the different RX stations I conclude that the cause was with me. I think that it is just some AM modulation in the PA caused by the 100Hz ripple of the PSU. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T At 02:13 18/11/2009, you wrote: >Dear Jim LF Group, > >Looking at the sidebands on the G7NKS WSPR signals, mains hum or other noise >by itself is not a sufficient explanation of what is seen. Simply adding >50Hz, 150Hz, etc. noise into the PC audio channel, then feeding the result >into an SSB TX would give unwanted CW at frequencies offset from the SSB >carrier frequency by +/-50Hz, 150Hz and so on, i.e. with the carrier "dial >frequency" at 502.4kHz, unmodulated carriers would appear at 502.45kHz, >502.55kHz and so on, in addition to the WSPR signal at around 503.9kHz. >However, these would probably largely be removed by the SSB filter in the >rig. Instead, we see unwanted sidebands offset from the wanted WSPR signal >frequency by +/- 50Hz, 150Hz, with identical modulation to the wanted >signal. This requires some sort of non-linear process to cause the >intermodulation between the presumed mains noise and the WSPR signal >somewhere in the TX chain. > >One possibility is that intermodulation occurs in the PA. Jim's description >suggests that he is persuading the HF PA in the IC735 to produce output at >500k. At this frequency, the PA linearity may well be poor due to the >impedance matching, coupling, decoupling and feedback components in the PA >being wrong for the frequency, and high flux densities occuring in ferrite >components due to the low operating frequency. But this wouldn't explain why >Jim also gets multiple received signals from a strong station with a clean >signal, which implies some identical noise source and distortion in the >receive path. It would also mean the mains noise getting through the >filtering in the rig somehow. > >A possibility that would explain the unwanted sidebands appearing on both TX >and RX signals is if one of the oscillators in the system has mains noise >sidebands. The sound card clock seems unlikely, since this is just a simple >crystal oscillator. I see the IC735 has some sort of multi-loop PLL >synthesiser, which would certainly be prone to this type of spurious signal, >since any kind of mains noise getting in would modulate the VCO frequencies, >and would probably be the same on transmit and receive. This could be >checked by receiving a clean carrier somewhere around 500kHz, and examining >the audio output using Spec Lab or Argo or similar to see if 50Hz and 150Hz >sidebands are present on the received audio tone. > >Cheers, Jim Moritz >73 de M0BMU > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "James Cowburn" >To: >Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:26 PM >Subject: LF: rule #2 - assumption is the brother of all foul ups > > > > LF > > > > > > > > Sidebands are back! I think its caused by my TX getting hot and bothered > > by > > struggling at 500. From cold it txs 50 watts but this soon drops back to > > around 35, and the sidebands appear. My sigs are better so having the > > txfr > > outside the shack and at the antenna is a vast improvement, but I now need > > to work on the cooling. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (rly-dc03.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.32]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC052-b104b0a1c67370; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:24:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC034-b104b0a1c67370; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:23:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCRNh-0007of-Rx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:22:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCRNh-0007oW-E0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:22:33 +0000 Received: from smtp05.online.nl ([194.134.41.35]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCRNg-0000Q6-1f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:22:33 +0000 Received: from smtp05.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp05.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6EDC5204D for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 06:22:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (s5593e077.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.147.224.119]) by smtp05.online.nl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 06:22:30 +0100 (CET) From: To: Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 06:22:30 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp05.online.nl) X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: RE: MRC Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0023_01CA6C05.55FB0170" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_40_50, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01CA6C05.55FB0170 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0024_01CA6C05.55FD7270" ------=_NextPart_001_0024_01CA6C05.55FD7270 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable deep QSB on MRC,best signal at 4:30z 73 Victor -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Lubos OK2BVG Verzonden: maandag 23 november 2009 2:56 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: LF: MRC Hello Joe, Rik, LF! MRC signal is as strong as EU QRSS station now. It is unbelievable! Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS **** BTW *** "The strong vertical lines are "made in Sweden" ;-)"Rik, where are thi= s vertical lines in your grabber from? I saw somethink similar here as= well. Those lines was very strong, periodic and they finished around the mid= night. ----------------------------------------------------------------------= ------ -- Windows 7: Zjedodu=B9te si ka=BEdodenn=ED =FAkoly. Kter=FD po=E8=EDt= a=E8 je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD? ------=_NextPart_001_0024_01CA6C05.55FD7270 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
deep QSB on=20 MRC,best signal at 4:30z
 
73
 
Victor
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Lubos=20 OK2BVG
Verzonden: maandag 23 november 2009 2:56
Aan:= =20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: LF: MRC

Hello Joe, Rik, LF!
MRC signal is as strong as EU QRSS station no= w. It is=20 unbelievable!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

**** BTW ***
"The strong vertical lines are "made in Sweden" ;-)"

Rik, wh= ere are this vertical lines in your grabber from? I saw somethink simi= lar here as well.
Those lines was very strong, periodic and they= finished around the midnight.


 

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To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:17:11 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4AF1B717.31461.F2160F@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> In-reply-to: <002b01ca5c10$0ccec4f0$0201a8c0@Clemens04> References: <9afca2640910310528p4f07557aifdc0557a68bfeff8@mail.gmail.com>, <002b01ca5c10$0ccec4f0$0201a8c0@Clemens04> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=7b43F8AYrcwA:10 a=9YlaCzn6_68A:10 a=hZG83p_yAAAA:8 a=YVLYd_bNAAAA:8 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=fnYqA7hvAAAA:8 a=j6Q1dnSHAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=VbBEleJV2F6EnEqZg7IA:9 a=3-efXUrfEF5nk-xEgwoA:7 a=RjnVYsF8elKvRgbjIL_npUX3U1YA:4 a=zXTYkF9FxG4A:10 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=gA6IeH5FQcgA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 a=9MV_0H_94qqYfgOS:21 a=PYIgT00Pnd4IQSuE:21 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500kHz attenuation graphs? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 This recommendation is available for 35 Swiss francs from: http://www.itu.int/rec/R-REC-P.368-7-199203-S/en Mike, G3XDV ========== On 2 Nov 2009 at 23:58, Clemens Paul wrote: > Roger, > > it's the CCIR- RECOMMENDATION 368-7 . > There are no free sources on the internet for these graphs > at least I was not able to find any. > Maybe DK8KW can help you, he has a graph for 150kHz on his HP > http://www.qru.de/burg.html > where you can also find his email address. > > 73 > Clemens > DL4RAJ > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Roger Lapthorn > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 1:28 PM > Subject: LF: 500kHz attenuation graphs? > > > Can someone please point me to any CCIR or similar graphs > (preferably on the internet) showing > the attenuation with distance expected on groundwave and skywave at > 500kHz? > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.40/2471 - Release Date: > 10/31/09 07:53:00 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (rly-ma01.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.44]) by air-ma08.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMA081-8894b0b0bad28f; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:24:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA013-8894b0b0bad28f; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:24:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NChJh-00030E-LS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:23:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NChJh-000302-88 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:23:29 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NChJf-0005py-33 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:23:29 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A0D44C8095 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:23:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7814C8174 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:23:20 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B0B0B58.6030200@online.fr> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:23:20 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <57a24ca70911231159k557ba717lbb0cf31cc7eb6e70@mail.gmail.com> <4B0B0774.7000304@online.fr> <57a24ca70911231420g41527072u8a49b156731352f2@mail.gmail.com> <57a24ca70911231420m3c5c39b5ue19501796f1e6ecc@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <57a24ca70911231420m3c5c39b5ue19501796f1e6ecc@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WD2XGJ Off 11/24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) OE5ODL ! 73 Warren Ziegler a =E9crit : > There is another signal on 137.780 - I don't know who that is? > =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com (rly-md01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.139]) by air-md04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD041-8e14b01a7032e7; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:25:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD011-8e14b01a7032e7; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:24:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA7AY-0007sD-DH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:23:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA7AX-0007s3-Td for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:23:21 +0000 Received: from smtp6.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.191]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA7AW-0002Pt-Sl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:23:21 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3609.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 432DC1C00086 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:23:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3609.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 35F001C00088 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:23:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.57.115]) by mwinf3609.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id A9BE31C00086 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:23:12 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091116192312695.A9BE31C00086@mwinf3609.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <6154343E4A0A4221B3275E7A5774B2CE@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <014601ca66e7$76a9f9d0$0517aac0@jimdesk> <015b01ca66e7$faca7050$0517aac0@jimdesk> In-Reply-To: <015b01ca66e7$faca7050$0517aac0@jimdesk> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:23:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: RE: thats the way to do it! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009D_01CA66F2.36A9D8E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_009D_01CA66F2.36A9D8E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jim, The spots from Jim . M0BMU , don't quite make sense as the distance= is only 38 Km as there is nearly 30 db range .over the last days= ..Gary G4WGT who is 33 Km from me records 1 or 2 db change in the si= gnal level of my wspr signal (apart from last night where I was run= ning down to 50 mW feed to the Ae) ... Is this some form of aircraft= flutter or something ? as I would of thought it was simply groun= d wave ? Any ideas anyone ? G ..=20 From: James Cowburn=20 Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 6:09 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: RE: RE: thats the way to do it! Now getting rpts on reflector too! doh =20 =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@b= lacksheep.org] On Behalf Of James Cowburn Sent: 16 November 2009 18:06 To: 'James Cowburn'; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: thats the way to do it! =20 =20 Dear LF =20 At a stroke, side bands gone, 25watts found, sigs increased! I'd like= to say I planned it that way but sister Serendipity was on my side! =20 I just moved the impedance matching transformer from in the shack to= the base of the coil and re-adjusted the taps on both. IC735 now ha= ppily firing 50watts out as opposed to 25 watts and it seems that the= dreaded side bands are gone. Let's see if it stays that way. =20 =20 =20 With best regards =20 =20 Jim G7NKS =20 =20 Dr. James Cowburn =20 ------=_NextPart_000_009D_01CA66F2.36A9D8E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jim,
 
The spots from Jim .  M0BMU , do= n't =20 quite make sense as the  distance is  only  38 Km = as there=20 is nearly  30 db range .over the  last days ..Gary G4WGT who= is 33 Km=20 from me records 1 or 2  db change in the signal level of my = =20 wspr  signal  (apart from last night where I was running&nbs= p; down=20 to  50 mW feed to the Ae) ... = Is this some=20 form of aircraft flutter  or something ? as I would  of = ; thought=20 it was  simply  ground  wave ?
 
Any  ideas  anyone ?=
 
G ..

Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 6:09 PM
Subject: LF: RE: RE: thats the way to do it!

Now = getting rpts=20 on reflector too! doh

&nbs= p;

 

From:<= /FONT> owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o= rg] On Behalf= Of James Cowburn
Sent: 16 November 2009 18:06
To: 'James Cowburn'; rsgb_lf_group@b= lacksheep.org
Subject: LF: RE: thats the way to do=20 it!

 

 

Dear LF

 

At a stroke, side bands gone,=20 25watts found, sigs increased!  I=92d like to say I planned it th= at way but=20 sister Serendipity was on my side!

 

I just moved the impedance matching= =20 transformer from in the shack to the base of the coil and re-adjusted= the taps=20 on both.   IC735 now happily firing 50watts out as opposed= to 25 watts=20 and it seems that the dreaded side bands are gone.  Let=92s see= if it stays=20 that way.

 

 

 

With best=20 regards

 

 

= Jim=20 G7NKS

 

 

Dr. James=20 Cowburn

 



------=_NextPart_000_009D_01CA66F2.36A9D8E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg11.mx.aol.com (rly-dg11.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.95]) by air-dg06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG064-6004afdcaa1a4; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:07:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG111-6004afdcaa1a4; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:07:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N93LC-00057g-Av for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:05:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N93LB-00057X-Qu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:05:57 +0000 Received: from smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com ([195.200.78.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N93L6-0000vg-PT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:05:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 22555 invoked by uid 507); 13 Nov 2009 22:05:29 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO JR) (john.rabson@numeo.fr@217.67.155.178) by smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com with SMTP; 13 Nov 2009 22:05:29 +0100 Message-ID: <200911132205430250.0B2CC740@smtp2.numeo.fr> In-Reply-To: <4AFDC7CD.5000409@sighthound.demon.co.uk> References: <00df01ca6488$e9244a80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <5MsXcPDG6Z$KFw8w@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk> <4AFDC7CD.5000409@sighthound.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:05:43 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: PIRATES Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 On 13/11/2009 at 20:55 John P-G wrote: >...granted these permissions on an individual=20 >basis. 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John F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me07.mx.aol.com (rly-me07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.41]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME052-9ca4aede8732d3; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 14:58:46 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME076-9ca4aede8732d3; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 14:58:44 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N4gYR-0001gH-08 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:57:35 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N4gYQ-0001g8-4g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:57:34 +0000 Received: from mcgi41.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.188]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N4gYN-0000lL-HP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:57:34 +0000 Received: from mcgi41.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi41.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5BD111423 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 2009 22:57:25 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [81.195.14.9] by mcgi41.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:57:20 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: rsgb Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:57:20 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <672096955.1257105440.145761808.48695@mcgi41.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Grabber ON 500 Kc Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi LF! http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html started on 500-502 kHz. Looking to Finbar 501.055, 501.4, 500.003 -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg12.mx.aol.com (rly-dg12.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.96]) by air-dg08.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDG084-60a4b13af687c; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 06:41:48 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG121-60a4b13af687c; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 06:41:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NF4cF-0006JV-F5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:40:27 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NF4cE-0006JM-MA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:40:26 +0000 Received: from n14.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.41]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NF4cE-00011B-1i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:40:26 +0000 Received: from [209.191.108.97] by n14.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Nov 2009 11:40:18 -0000 Received: from [68.142.201.246] by t4.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Nov 2009 11:40:18 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp407.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Nov 2009 11:40:18 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 799814.79184.bm@omp407.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 4921 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2009 11:40:18 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=KPN4EjpVVLV8kwuEhCJh0wDj3DnjXoDl4mTCTxzWcf7ETHqIIhhuxuUXgDfy613yanTJEirl0wLAp65DbHu6c41BWmMuSleB7RGdWz0nRiTmHBHC0MitavryE0YC7i5oEsXn8zaBmHjN1QH9D4fDnXVRIGpRexD7ZfeESRI7mo8= ; Received: from host86-138-92-60.range86-138.btcentralplus.com (ken.h.wright@86.138.92.60 with login) by smtp129.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Nov 2009 03:40:17 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: 9Y6mUHuswBAgnrOsukIiNdFDf95uy_Dz34nY1hlg2liKgYD952sjbg-- X-YMail-OSG: rjUkMMMVM1nqOJpwDeRh1xKSSjTEA.ggNSsm9zxEdcTyKlaCFj_7Jboeb8O5lsiMGLRKwD6CqX_rEXYV.0_89dFWsW4nGOf_Swu.mXBWLcjZGHs3sBCfjm2RoeGfEBuEM8BndYIWCoTitJcay9yw7eJFNUo1zwgtcn94X6Kb9U2DhhShcoAotvkbv9vRqQEH1Ogr_wn5xaU_Vz61ANvorbSeG5Mp1TXkKUq7vps1exvexdRXHYw3H6P4Ykx77ll_TaNJPMIdp4WQpl0MY7OGGXeLN5smHCeRGlQfqi.gV_Ra3zGfUiAXPbKth9dxmhvmjdqrrZ4UlHLDC.LMhh2fRfYZ4qFht6w- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <7DBC3294C2014AE28488EF91C4B16494@lindavideo> From: "Ken" To: References: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AA82@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:40:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: Re: AW: Re: AW: 4kv diode Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0058_01CA71B1.E2D8F5A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_70_80, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01CA71B1.E2D8F5A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1258" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Stefan. Thankyou. Ken ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 9:52 AM Subject: LF: AW: Re: AW: 4kv diode=20 Hi Ken,=20 We have ordered these diodes before some years at:=20 Getronic GmbH Warnstedtstr. 57-59 22525 Hamburg=20 Tel +49-40-54744-100 Fax +49-40-54744-150 Sorry, I don=B4t know a distributor in the UK=85 How much do you need? 73! Stefan / DK7FC -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@= blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Ken Gesendet: Sonntag, 29. November 2009 19:54 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: Re: AW: 4kv diode=20 Hi Stefan. Thanks Stefan, do you have a source for either the BV8 or the BV16?,= I have been unable to find one. 73 Ken M0KHW ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 6:05 PM Subject: LF: AW: 4kv diode=20 Hi Ken,=20 My hint is to try a BV8 Diode. It is able to take 500mA. On my work,= I have good experiences with the BV16, the 16kV Version.=20 Each one costs abt 1=80. Three in parallel, thermal coupled, should= be no problem at all. And: there=B4s no need for extra cooling! 73, Stefan=20 -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@= blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Ken Gesendet: Sonntag, 29. November 2009 12:05 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: 4kv diode=20 Hello All. I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or equivalent diode, BY4 4kv @ 1A,= BY6 6kv @ 1A, I have searched the web and looked in Farnell, any ide= as please. 73. Ken M0KHW =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01CA71B1.E2D8F5A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1258" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Stefan.
Thankyou.
Ken
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 30, 20= 09 9:52=20 AM
Subject: LF: AW: Re: AW: 4kv= diode

Hi Ken,=20

 

We have=20 ordered these diodes before some years at:

Getronic=20 GmbH

Warnstedtstr. 57-59

22525=20 Hamburg=  

Tel=20 +49-40-54744-100

Fax=20 +49-40-54744-150

 

Sorry, I=20 don=B4t know a distributor in the U= K=85

How much do=20 you need?

 

73! Stefan=20 / DK7FC

 

 

 

 

-----Urspr=FCngliche=20 Nachricht-----

Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von=20 Ken

Gesendet: Sonntag, 29.=20 November 2009 19:54

An:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Betreff: LF: Re: AW:=20 4kv diode

 

Hi=20 Stefan.

Thanks=20 Stefan, do you have a source for either the BV8 or the BV16?, I have= been=20 unable to find one.

 

73

Ken

M0KHW

-----=20 Original Message -----

From:=20 Stefan Sch=E4fer=20

To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Sent:=20 Sunday, November 29, 2009 6:05 PM

Subject:=20 LF: AW: 4kv diode

 

Hi Ken,=20

My hint is=20 to try a BV8 Diode. It is able to take 500mA. On my work, I have goo= d=20 experiences with the BV16, the 16kV Version.

Each one=20 costs abt 1=80. Three in parallel, thermal coupled, should be no pro= blem at all.=20 And: there=B4s no need for extra cooling!

 

73, Stefan=20

 

-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----

Von:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org]=20 Im Auftrag von Ken

Gesendet: Sonntag, 29.=20 November 2009 12:05

An:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Betreff: LF: 4kv diode=20

 

Hello=20 All.

I am=20 looking for a BY4 or BY6 or equivalent diode, BY4   4kv @= 1A,=20 BY6  6kv @ 1A, I have searched the web and looked in Farnell,= any ideas=20 please.

 

73.

Ken

 

M0KHW   

------=_NextPart_000_0058_01CA71B1.E2D8F5A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me07.mx.aol.com (rly-me07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.41]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME054-9c84aff23bc39f; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:40:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME074-9c84aff23bc39f; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:40:14 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9QKp-0001FI-OD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:39:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9QKp-0001F9-39 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:39:07 +0000 Received: from 113-mo2-8.acn.waw.pl ([62.121.95.113] helo=paranoid.lipkowski.org) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9QKn-0006N4-Bu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:39:07 +0000 Received: from paranoid.lipkowski.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id nAELdYdd004844 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:39:34 +0100 Received: from localhost (sq5bpf@localhost) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.6/Submit) with ESMTP id nAELdYCY004841 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:39:34 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: paranoid.lipkowski.org: sq5bpf owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:39:34 +0100 (CET) From: Jacek Lipkowski To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <4AFF0E3B.90402@inext.at> Message-ID: References: <4AFF0E3B.90402@inext.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score-sq5bpf: -2.601 () BAYES_00,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 137kHz grabber in SP Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) On Sat, 14 Nov 2009, Oberreiter Oswald wrote: > your grabber works very good thank you . thanks! good conditions tonight, lots of stations, and i think that the local qrm level is a bit lower vy 73 Jacek / SQ5BPF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (rly-dc10.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.39]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC084-b464afc81d521d; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:45:18 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC102-b464afc81d521d; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:44:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8hSI-0007qX-OA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:43:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8hSI-0007qO-Bp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:43:50 +0000 Received: from smtp6.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.192]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8hSH-0000qx-Np for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:43:50 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3626.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 031ED7000082 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:43:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3626.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id EA4077000083 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:43:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.8.173]) by mwinf3626.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id A7FB67000082 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:43:41 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091112214341688.A7FB67000082@mwinf3626.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <2EB9AB3966984B91BB0C369B32CF12FC@AGB> From: "Graham" To: Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:43:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C4_01CA63E1.33129E10" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00C4_01CA63E1.33129E10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can anyone clarify the situation as to who can work who=20 is this the same as the USA ?=20 Tnx - G .. =20 >From the IARU web site=20 As of 30 October 2009 Canada issued two licences in the Developmental= Service in the range 504-509 kHz. a.. VE1ZZ has been assigned VX9PSO and is reported on 504.6 kHz=20 b.. VO1NA has been assigned VX9MRC and is reported on 507.77 and 508= .5 kHz Two more stations, VE3OHH and VE7BDQ, are expected to become active so= on.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_00C4_01CA63E1.33129E10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Can anyone clarify the  situation as to&= nbsp; who=20 can work who
is this the  same as the  USA=20 ? 
&nb= sp;
Tnx - G ..   

From the  IARU  web site

As of 30 October 2009 Canada issued two licences in the Development= al Service=20 in the range 504-509 kHz.

  • VE1ZZ has been assigned VX9PSO and is reported on 504.6 kHz=20
  • VO1NA has been assigned VX9MRC and is reported on 507.77 and 508= .5=20 kHz
Two more stations, VE3OHH and VE7BDQ, are expected to become= active=20 soon.


------=_NextPart_000_00C4_01CA63E1.33129E10-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME063-9ce4af6e1ae158; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:20:26 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME082-9ce4af6e1ae158; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:20:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N79Xs-0006p3-QW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:19:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N79Xs-0006ou-85 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:19:12 +0000 Received: from mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.47]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N79Wu-0000zF-6m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:18:13 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.1]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091108151905.HSRB17029.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:19:05 +0000 Received: from [86.27.93.99] (helo=jimdesk) by know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N79Xk-0005UN-Vq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:19:05 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:19:01 -0000 Message-ID: <001b01ca6086$cd0966b0$0617aac0@jimdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcpghsvF3O/FUKyBTE+0SEWKcbALHA== X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Eps_Ghm3EGtr7jF7nUIA:9 a=g-R94TfW7Gh0stLosyMA:7 a=yew2KIE3PiFnGWLxW_JCNTBaR98A:4 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=2Y_AYPvP-KM97D4rTIYA:9 a=kG40DQDcz4MwQ-Z5wtQA:7 a=yKdwwVG_gA7ewF7Dufe-fckQOn4A:4 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Losses due to ant in tree? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001C_01CA6086.CD0966B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_FONT_BIG, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01CA6086.CD0966B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All, The vertical 5m section of my inverted L runs up into the branches of a silver birch tree. The wire goes over a large bough at 5m or so and then comes out of the branches for some 22m down to a 4m high pole attached to the garage. Has anyone a guesstimation of the losses in signal caused by running the wire through the tree? Using vertload and tophat2 I calculate the antenna to be around 0.25% efficient but this assumes it is in free space. Can anyone suggest a figure for the additional loss due to tree heating! The vertical element is actually sloping at about 20 degree from the tree down to the loading coil. The length is nearer 6metres but the vertical height over ground at the bough is about 5m. (Santa may be bringing me a set of swaged poles with which to build mark 2, well away from the silver birch!) With best regards Jim Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01CA6086.CD0966B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi All,

 

The vertical 5m section of my inverted= L runs up into the branches of a silver birch tree.  The wire goes over a large boug= h at 5m or so and then comes out of the branches for some 22m down to a 4m high pole= attached to the garage.

 

Has anyone a guesstimation of the losse= s in signal caused by running the wire through the tree?

 

Using vertload and tophat2 I calculate= the antenna to be around 0.25% efficient but this assumes it is in free space.  Can= anyone suggest a figure for the additional loss due to tree heating!

 

The vertical element is actually slopin= g at about 20 degree from the tree down to the loading coil.  The length is nearer 6me= tres but the vertical height over ground at the bough is about 5m.

 

(Santa may be bringing me a set of swag= ed poles with which to build mark 2, well away from the silver birch!)

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim=

 

 

Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS

------=_NextPart_000_001C_01CA6086.CD0966B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df02.mx.aol.com (rly-df02.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.15]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF062-5334af711bb244; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:45:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF026-5334af711bb244; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:45:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7CkT-0008EV-TY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:44:25 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7CkT-0008EM-7E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:44:25 +0000 Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7CkR-00063A-Fc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:44:24 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-3.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.3]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091108183917.SKTR27507.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-3.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:39:17 +0000 Received: from [86.27.93.99] (helo=jimdesk) by know-smtpout-3.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7CfU-0006Fr-9R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:39:17 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: References: <112811.74996.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:39:12 -0000 Message-ID: <004101ca60a2$c4faa710$0617aac0@jimdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <112811.74996.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Thread-Index: AcpgneMdsq5dm+MQTLiVSwlzrt96zwABMEuw X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=G3Oen64sID_n_jXPMxEA:9 a=cxgVpT4_1uNhWTmyt8hV0oF7JnsA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=MZiTZN4oxdAVc4QL:21 a=Rmj3QT_t3V4eoGXx:21 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=AJHrFXilO5qSd6QNsLAA:7 a=7_Gti2tFF_vNHAOmdH_RIEuQXOcA:4 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0042_01CA60A2.C4FAA710" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING, LINES_OF_YELLING_2 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01CA60A2.C4FAA710 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well done Chris!! With best regards Jim Dr. James Cowburn From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Chris Osborn Sent: 08 November 2009 18:03 To: LF Group Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO LF It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m. This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 600m / 80m. Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0CF - No. 998. QSO break-down according to mode: 928 CW, 34 RTTY and 5 QRSS 600m STATIONS My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many of these go back to the start of the UK 600m allocation in March 2007. Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding beacons). Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of again: G3KZU, G3YHV . . . Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT: G3UNT, G3VTT, G4GDR. . . MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the same stations many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of my total contacts. My most frequently worked stations are: GW3UEP - 120 G3KEV - 102 M0FMT - 90 G3ZWH - 80 (alas now SK) G3DXZ - 67 G4GDR - 60 EI0CF/ GI4DPE - 51 M0JXM - 48 G3UNT - 45 G3VTT - 38 CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a cross-band QSO: DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . . and our few EU MF friends are still active: ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . . WSPR ON 600m I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for the WSPR mode was never achieved for hand sent Morse (CW), which after all is the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF marine band. If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stations operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band then I guess it may be time for me to QSY. 73 Chris G3XIZ ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01CA60A2.C4FAA710 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Well done Chris= !! 

 

 

 

With best regar= ds

 

 

Jim=

 

 

Dr. James Cowbu= rn

 

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org] On Behalf Of C= hris Osborn
Sent: 08 November 2009= 18:03
To: LF Group
Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 10= 00 th MF QSO

 

LF

It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m.<= br> This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 600m= / 80m.

Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0C= F - No. 998.

QSO break-down according to mode:     928 CW,  34 RTTY  and   5 QRSS

600m STATIONS

My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many of these go back to= the start of the UK  600m allocation in March 2007.
Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding= beacons).
Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of again:  G3KZU, G3YHV . . .
Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT:  G3U= NT, G3VTT, G4GDR. . .

MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED

With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the same= stations many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of my total contact= s.
My most frequently worked stations are:

GW3UEP - 120     G3KEV - 102   &nbs= p;  M0FMT - 90     G3ZWH  -  80  (alas= now SK)
G3DXZ    -   67     G4GDR -   60      EI0CF/ GI4DPE  -&n= bsp; 51   M0JXM - 48
G3UNT    -   45     G3VTT=   -   38

CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS

There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a cros= s-band QSO:
DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . .

and our few EU MF friends are still active:
ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . .

WSPR ON 600m

I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for the= WSPR mode was never achieved for  hand sent Morse (CW), which after all is= the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF marine band.
If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stations= operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band then I guess= it may be time for me to QSY.

73 Chris G3XIZ






 

------=_NextPart_000_0042_01CA60A2.C4FAA710-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (rly-dc10.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.39]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC014-b4a4af726d2201; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:15:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC106-b4a4af726d2201; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:15:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7E9Z-0000Xj-2y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:14:25 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7E9Y-0000Xa-LW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:14:24 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7E9V-0006Oy-Ne for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:14:24 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so2852513bwz.4 for ; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:14:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=PLHnMzfKi4cERz8/4nEDMzLUiiQt0nVYUbg36hhHlNg=; b=jbpyEyVzBW+3sPyVfMXjxI7+tkCsEaJ9PXIaUCfOkZVYwX90/gqV3q5C3V2sIDX7t0 7m0NxmgWdBiEGB5NAiMHm6J6ds8gFqRJRdN4PEPGap1M/JNTnprKYD0DDCqVCruUfqRr VUVoPZ2Jl3pKoFhKZ7lKHH6APFTjRp3idQ3d8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=bfjsORazhLRVAeR8MHgTA72fPY2lEz57N4wENkr9H41zWvkwqrxjgZAVDd+t+GOYEj /eA6KDVxjQDt4dsjhkQweRZReRRkCud7W9OBi4Pnc0BQKL+wbTwMFPmtoIeKGwqgwnnV nymaNte42DAobddWeF0qTdPLl0bQGkr7iQEfg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.158.7 with SMTP id s7mr602749hbc.53.1257711255518; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:14:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <029701ca60af$4f444d20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <027601ca60a2$841cd150$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <020b01ca60a9$4495adc0$0201a8c0@Clemens04> <029701ca60af$4f444d20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:14:15 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e640961e9d7cf00477e1b8cd X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m210.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0016e640961e9d7cf00477e1b8cd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 SHANNON... Andy www.g4jnt.com http://www.g4jnt.com/6dBBetter.ppt (just presented at the Martlesham Microwave Roundtable) this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny state 2009/11/8 mal hamilton > Two points > > Why waste 2.4 kHz when QRS only needs a few Hz with a better S/N ratio. > > --0016e640961e9d7cf00477e1b8cd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Two points

Why waste 2.= 4 kHz when QRS only needs a few Hz with a better S/N ratio.

--0016e640961e9d7cf00477e1b8cd-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc02.mx.aol.com (rly-mc02.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.86]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC021-d5d4b00b0ae201; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:54:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC025-d5d4b00b0ae201; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:53:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9qlk-0003eq-Ej for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:52:40 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9qlj-0003eh-KQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:52:39 +0000 Received: from web28104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.124]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9qlj-0003Bk-Fx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:52:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 85957 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Nov 2009 01:52:34 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1258336353; bh=b82e0DERc9njqypfYAHvrMGJcCfsOKhVplu81OZsfV8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=boCAyNY6xbjlRsG+NFXFzQCPaRf+KZjt7DgfPhmID7HksZK/mI8qmuMPtcpZuZclJgQ3nn+w0uYJLHykm38sQxNQjIg1zpRYydMu9u7uAe/ABl4HOMIuhGycYkhGNpbEckG/p+dM7GsjFi0OA6G2uo4RNxXfV7k/N24+a5U+kvI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Lkb8McKiQq+lAh02MZrppM1uNzEF9mGljLHicgDfZYhmhYzJTgr2mzZ48ZrYpgxV5UegQ2naOY9C2Uab3eBxwIyBkT7WW8l5axmTNMA+yFW8WidS7GrAsIcuB1thkzp/jIGF0H9NpulNZIOvqXnm/m7U3zkr7gfCjjURbPMnjHk=; Message-ID: <957920.84927.qm@web28104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 2tOTeU0VM1k6X1sutHHLf22aIlQnPlteicnF7gulTcvv6jf9DfbPW1MKxE3EvlPGsgPix6wHrNsQ33uCe.N_V0RJPRTM2ZatbFKDZhuQVvo9CKExoNxy7IGoZBpzB1S8hRimmXBhmUOFK6RNARiaRnfeYR41Qde3yTZ74ypsCGgwgZkEU_VFLMwDZKr.bTT.23uwy1PYnebQumF7ITresLiDAKjH8hm4VxflxMWAo8GSfY5JjZ4cBQoxXgzBvvOCZV4ZQXyI1N2YFou5ETbD5RbcUd9P8KBvzsdRruXf2WZFMC.NoYOXHuRlGf0dDG.4tVLTLw-- Received: from [86.137.246.146] by web28104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:52:33 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:52:33 -0800 (PST) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <004201ca6643$2cf00590$0517aac0@jimdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: RE: LF: G7NKS - Double Side Band: wspr? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-422563549-1258336353=:84927" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d243.2 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-422563549-1258336353=:84927 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jim =C2=A0 OK too bad you can't resolve it with your existing Sound Card.=20 =C2=A0 When considering a USB SC think about SDR (the future of Ham Radio). M-Aud= io is considered a good card but see M0KGK's site for comparison with the= Creative Labs Sound Blaster Live a cost effective solution (these are sti= ll available although production=C2=A0I believe has now ceased). =C2=A0=C2=A0http://www.m0kgk.co.uk/sdr/soundcards.php =C2=A0 Oh BTW double side band WSPR dosn't bother me in the least....hee. =C2=A0 Best of luck 73 petefmt --- On Sun, 15/11/09, James Cowburn wrote: From: James Cowburn Subject: RE: LF: G7NKS - Double Side Band: wspr? To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sunday, 15 November, 2009, 22:29 Dear LF =C2=A0 The double or treble reports on strong signals are due to a main hum probl= em on my system. =C2=A0It only seems to appear on 500 and only on signals= where I am strong e,g, MOBMU and MOFMT. =C2=A0I=E2=80=99m working on some= solutions and will also be getting a USB sound card to try and further is= olate the sound from the mains. =C2=A0 Apologies to all for the multiple decodes. =C2=A0I have tried turning the= power down on the TX to get the extra decodes at M0BMU and MOFMT below -3= 0dB so they are not picked up but to no avail. =C2=A0Pete=E2=80=99s too cl= ose and Jim M=E2=80=99s antenna is too good! =C2=A0 USB sound card has been advised by several others so that=E2=80=99s my nex= t port of call =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 With best regards =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Jim =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Dr. James Cowburn =C2=A0 From: owner- rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner- rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org ] On Behalf Of M0FMT Sent: 15 November 2009 21:59 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: G7NKS - Double Side Band: wspr? =C2=A0 Hi Jim and LF group =C2=A0 Please observe the reports I am getting from Jim G7NKS WSPR transmissions= :-=20 =C2=A0 First a weak one and then a strong one then a weak one (see below)=C2=A0do= es it mean there's a sprog / modulation on Jim's transmission off set by= approximately +/-50c/s? I will try to get a time domain display of it whe= n I have time, it may provide a clue. Is it my RX? =C2=A0 2009-11-15 21:26=C2=A0 =C2=A0G7NKS=C2=A0 =C2=A00.503904=C2=A0 =C2=A0-26=C2=A0 =C2=A0-1=C2=A0 =C2=A0IO92ub=C2=A0 =C2=A00.02=C2=A0 =C2=A0M0FMT=C2=A0 =C2=A0IO91ux=C2=A0 =C2=A09=C2=A0 =C2=A0180=C2=A0 2009-11-15 21:26=C2=A0 =C2=A0G7NKS=C2=A0 =C2=A00.503853=C2=A0 =C2=A0+2=C2=A0 =C2=A0-1=C2=A0 =C2=A0IO92ub=C2=A0 =C2=A00.02=C2=A0 =C2=A0M0FMT=C2=A0 =C2=A0IO91ux=C2=A0 =C2=A09=C2=A0 =C2=A0180=C2=A0 2009-11-15 21:26=C2=A0 =C2=A0G7NKS=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 0.503803=C2=A0 -25=C2=A0 =C2=A0-1=C2=A0 =C2=A0IO92ub=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00.02=C2=A0 =C2=A0M0FMT=C2=A0 =C2=A0 IO91ux=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A09=C2=A0 =C2=A0180=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Don't think=C2=A0it's my old HB=C2=A0drifty DC RX that accounts for it bec= ause all other reports are OK as far as I have seen to date but am open to= comment. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 73 petefmt =C2=A0 =20 --0-422563549-1258336353=:84927 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Jim
 
OK too bad you can't resolve it with your existing Sound Card.
 
When considering a USB SC think about SDR (the future of Ham Radio).= M-Audio is considered a good card but see M0KGK's site for comparison wit= h the Creative Labs Sound Blaster Live a cost effective solution (these ar= e still available although production I believe has now ceased).
 
Oh BTW double side band WSPR dosn't bother me in the least....hee.
 
Best of luck 73 petefmt

--- On Sun, 15/11/09, James Cowburn= <james.cowburn@virgin.net> wrote:

From: James Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.n= et>
Subject: RE: LF: G7NKS - Double Side Band: wspr?
To: rsgb_lf_= group@blacksheep.org
Date: Sunday, 15 November, 2009, 22:29

Dear LF

 =

The double or treble= reports on strong signals are due to a main hum problem on my system. &nb= sp;It only seems to appear on 500 and only on signals where I am strong e,= g, MOBMU and MOFMT.  I=E2=80=99m working on some solutions and will= also be getting a USB sound card to try and further isolate the sound fro= m the mains.

 =

Apologies to all for= the multiple decodes.  I have tried turning the power down on the TX= to get the extra decodes at M0BMU and MOFMT below -30dB so they are not= picked up but to no avail.  Pete=E2=80=99s too close and Jim M=E2=80= =99s antenna is too good!

 =

USB sound card has= been advised by several others so that=E2=80=99s my next port of call

 =

 =

 =

With best regards

=  

=  

Jim

=  

=  

Dr. James Cowburn

 

From:= owner- rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner- rsgb_lf_group@= blacksheep.org ] On Behalf Of = M0FMT
Sent: 15 Nove= mber 2009 21:59
To: rsg= b_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject:= Re: LF: G7NKS - Double Side Band: wspr?

  =

Hi Jim and LF group

 

Please observe the reports I am getting from Jim G7NK= S WSPR transmissions :-

 

First a weak one and then a strong one then a weak on= e (see below) does it mean there's a sprog / modulation on Jim's tran= smission off set by approximately +/-50c/s? I will try to get a time domai= n display of it when I have time, it may provide a clue. Is it my RX?

 

2009-11-15 21:26 = ;

 G7NKS 

 0.503904 <= /SPAN>

 -26 

 -1 =

 IO92ub 

 0.02 

 M0FMT 

 IO91ux 

 9 <= /FONT>

 180 

2009-11-15 21:26 = ;

 G7NKS 

 0.503853 <= /SPAN>

 +2 =

 -1 =

 IO92ub 

 0.02 

 M0FMT 

 IO91ux 

 9 <= /FONT>

 180 

2009-11-15 21:26 = ;

 G7NKS 

   0.503803=  

-25 

 -1 =

 IO92ub 

   0.02&nbs= p;

 M0FMT 

  IO91ux 

    9&= nbsp;

 180 

 

 

 

 

 

Don't think it's my old HB drifty DC RX tha= t accounts for it because all other reports are OK as far as I have seen= to date but am open to comment.

 

  73 petefmt

 


=20 --0-422563549-1258336353=:84927-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (rly-dd08.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.155]) by air-dd10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD101-b954b0580f63c0; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:31:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD087-b954b0580f63c0; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:31:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBAox-0001Se-RW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:29:27 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBAox-0001SV-Ei for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:29:27 +0000 Received: from mail-yx0-f203.google.com ([209.85.210.203]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBAor-0000vm-Ac for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:29:27 +0000 Received: by yxe41 with SMTP id 41so5273584yxe.30 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:29:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=a41Jhz7aLf372YbVDS3/KcCsiMoFtCSzobI9GSHANjw=; b=gcUqgQ/o+FvF6uUR0kpBJRxoi3MQMcDKX7uh9EgxsJekvzMeMUuZT/b0tMTVOoyNWb nlEmQoG8lwJ6RSzvDllmvrpdDo2TNseMIk6J6JmRHcSEDf8L37tqZfAeuIQGvzw2p1l4 sJWEcgJdMPfFfEOl6Gzipm620rL2fW0Bw3J/A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MggknXRi2I+TbN4JMcuZ4wbUwKDHLOLkmdHVVHkLclBwUHVuoV1jquSIgajgq1P84Q vWgkW4Ez8Ed2vMHjCEr+b4qiFrPhJ87VwuMsCuLowtx8g2J+cwT0n9r0cUChdP1BADuX eg6K8ySfOyUoyaTOgwKPmk6s6NMSDqGbsKNdQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.168.204 with SMTP id l12mr32575hbe.36.1258651747793; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:29:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B0570B4.8040209@telia.com> References: <4B0570B4.8040209@telia.com> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:29:07 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR 2.0 is now available Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d269.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) It has a calibration procedure built in, but as far as I can make out, is aimed at solving frequency offset / tuning errors. I may have missed something, but there seems to be no facility to calibrate for soundcard errors in the same way as WSJT does, which can affect symbol timing . As we found in discussion on theis reflector a year or so ago. Sample rate timing error is enough to destroy WSPR decoding even when signals are strong. May be wrong, and will go and re read the appendices associated with calibration, but no mention is made, specifically, of soundcard sampling rate error - only refrences to frequency error. FOrtunately, as WSPR is designed around 12000Hz sampling, this is rarely out by more than a few ppm in most modern cards. See my Column in the latest RadCom for some soundcard sampling rate measurements - and how bad some are Andy www.g4jnt.com This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health and safety police 2009/11/19 Johan Bodin : > > =A0http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/ > > > 73 > Johan SM6LKM > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (rly-dg06.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.90]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG074-5ce4b01bd1c327; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:59:33 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG061-5ce4b01bd1c327; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:59:10 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA8eD-0000FO-LZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:58:05 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA8eD-0000FF-4t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:58:05 +0000 Received: from gv-out-0910.google.com ([216.239.58.188]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA8eB-0002GG-D4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:58:05 +0000 Received: by gv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c6so765294gvd.38 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:58:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=DBJ8CVnM/eGaqJZZymi78vaTletnmADy90pJ3x9aEcU=; b=UoF5hAOs8zlcQzUq9+2oBhuXgtsRYtfPni44zS+8A63s8xCv172MpaL5731PCg8P1P qT4KkUj9HP8lXhodqEbKJFA61QUShnD1BGJDVjhPkJCXKg0PKPQlpu3kL1qVS7jrpB0Y PILLpJ9kmhshpoyZDXOpc+z/kji6H6hSBdtQo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=uaKhLs3FTrxs/WZJpxo5wT0opO+j3esCVj7Simb4t0ivhStx18Qp/+2N8gURrug2uA X4AUyjjH8r+kqTQxIYZgLiMGwqOd0PJaSrqNBHPWCOQz1wTlGFTQUsP/jwz84q98LaRl NZZAyVmsotsl/xJpiccZyndk/w90ff6rVLXmM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.145.33 with SMTP id q33mr802061hba.126.1258405082464; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:58:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091116214056.d7nc9v7srowggc88@webmail6.kuleuven.be> References: <20091116214056.d7nc9v7srowggc88@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:58:02 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR Entry Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m243.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Oh yes - missed that! The freqs are all at odd spacings as well. I find it hard to believe the WSPR decoding algorithm will generate the same decode for random noise twice - unless, perhaps, the noise is correlated in the frequency domain. THEN... perhaps its feasible there is a sort of decodeable time/frequency comb that just about triggers the sync detect. Weird ! Andy www.g4jnt.com This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health and safety police 2009/11/16 Rik Strobbe : > Andy, > > note that the 2 hits have the same timestamp but different frequency. > You can more of these double "fake" hits: > > 2009-01-30 20:00 =A0 Y23LWM =A0 0.137592 =A0 -26 =A0 0 =A0 AC23 =A0 10= =A0 DF6NM =A0 JN59nk > =A0 18083 =A0 194 > 2009-01-30 20:00 =A0 Y23LWM =A0 0.137568 =A0 +8 =A0 0 =A0 AC23 =A0 10 = =A0 DF6NM =A0 JN59nk > 18083 =A0 194 > > 2009-10-22 05:18 =A0 CE8QNK =A0 0.503890 =A0 -21 =A0 -3 =A0 OB23 =A0 0.0= 05 =A0 SQ2BXI > JO94gj =A0 15730 =A0 291 > =A02009-10-22 05:18 =A0 CE8QNK =A0 0.503969 =A0 -25 =A0 -3 =A0 OB23 =A0= 0.005 =A0 SQ2BXI > JO94gj =A0 15730 =A0 291 > > 2009-11-08 04:50 =A0 G17LSZ =A0 0.503817 =A0 -27 =A0 -2 =A0 GA37 =A0 0.0= 1 =A0 SQ2BXI > =A0JO94gj =A0 15730 =A0 62 > 2009-11-08 04:50 =A0 G17LSZ =A0 0.503829 =A0 -26 =A0 -2 =A0 GA37 =A0 0.0= 1 =A0 SQ2BXI > =A0JO94gj =A0 15730 =A0 62 > > 2009-11-12 21:12 =A0 E51OOP =A0 0.503999 =A0 -33 =A0 3 =A0 GB06 =A0 0.1= =A0 G4WGT =A0 IO83qo > =A0 14761 =A0 42 > 2009-11-12 21:12 =A0 E51OOP =A0 0.503810 =A0 -25 =A0 3 =A0 GB06 =A0 0.1= =A0 G4WGT =A0 IO83qo > =A0 14761 =A0 42 > > 2009-05-17 21:28 =A0 EN6WV =A0 0.503858 =A0 -17 =A0 -4 =A0 MD07 =A0 200= =A0 GM4ISM > IO85ar =A0 13421 =A0 324 > 2009-05-17 21:28 =A0 EN6WV =A0 0.503850 =A0 -24 =A0 -4 =A0 MD07 =A0 200= =A0 GM4ISM > IO85ar =A0 13421 =A0 324 > > 2009-09-08 19:42 =A0 NE9GWP =A0 0.503876 =A0 -24 =A0 1 =A0 OG12 =A0 0.5= =A0 G0HNW =A0 IO93cn > =A0 13386 =A0 318 > 2009-09-08 19:42 =A0 NE9GWP =A0 0.503851 =A0 -23 =A0 1 =A0 OG12 =A0 0.5= =A0 G0HNW =A0 IO93cn > =A0 13386 =A0 318 > > 2009-09-19 10:16 =A0 1Y3X =A0 0.503556 =A0 -33 =A0 1 =A0 AD87 =A0 2 =A0= K1JT =A0 FN20 > =A0=A013336 =A0 61 > 2009-09-19 10:16 =A0 1Y3X =A0 0.503468 =A0 -32 =A0 1 =A0 AD87 =A0 2 =A0= K1JT =A0 FN20 > =A0=A013336 =A0 61 > > and so on ... > > 73, Rik > > Quoting Andy Talbot : > >> Found in the database. =A0Two consecutive hits with the same details >> suggests an incorrectly set station.. >> >> Uraguay, in Central Africa !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> >> 2009-11-16 19:06=A0=A0CW5PPT=A0=A00.503997=A0=A0-30=A0=A03=A0=A0KJ31=A0= =A0+53=A0=A0199.526=A0=A0G4WGT >> IO83qo=A0=A06399=A0=A03976 >> 2009-11-16 19:06=A0=A0CW5PPT=A0=A00.503849=A0=A0-15=A0=A03=A0=A0KJ31=A0= =A0+53=A0=A0199.526=A0=A0G4WGT >> IO83qo=A0=A06399=A0=A03976 >> >> >> Andy >> www.g4jnt.com >> >> this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny stat= e >> >> > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me07.mx.aol.com (rly-me07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.41]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME011-9c54af6aceea2; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:35:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME071-9c54af6aceea2; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:35:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N761z-0005Rq-1o for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:34:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N761y-0005Rh-Jz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:34:02 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N760y-00085l-VJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:33:02 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so2579727bwz.4 for ; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:33:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=JuZCDtAdYP5DxXJ0qZogCZlWgT6n7qs+saILy9eBP0Q=; b=E3bcDD+kcbq7skZLsF91m3uxTe3bKmScCSsbs7aJxfHZFdrj7QUbkiapt2lJfqmvH5 h3v/Tx2NWn3aZx3cr5O06hop80U0KMlaLkbslQ+it1Efie4NV33dYM1HjYBhqzZZgd2m 4EZgPh40j5PklGmp/15RU9HibSuJO194UjjU0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=vlF8roGoqH9z2CmWDaNGCYj2ZdMarYzdgZX+ANMizPP+FJaC9lTd+anJBz+yXppDUt gzGJvYkAfQJ4kkwD80tbNBuctxkyche5XipO9jqsEYOAruHSK0U39YxmAFMWXNbWWnwO E91tFRO4kbm1JJkovyXnwD5sYBiD744rw2xr0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.154.203 with SMTP id p11mr7044414bkw.180.1257680033860; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:33:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <019f01ca6061$34a80040$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <019f01ca6061$34a80040$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:33:53 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911080333n583d3ec3r31f5b21e4d047248@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175cd0e6a8cdf60477da7381 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m284.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0015175cd0e6a8cdf60477da7381 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear Mal, Personally I have found WSPR to be a *most* useful tool when exploring LF propagation and station improvements. The most valuable part has being able to go on the air and almost instantly get feedback (via the WSPR database) about quite subtle changes to my station. The change to my antenna a couple of days ago was an example when the reports from M0BMU and G7NKS * immediately* told me that a real step change improvement had been achieved. Amateur radio is about experiments, new challenges etc. WSPR has allowed me to try some simple, but valuable, experiments these last few weeks on 500kHz and I am grateful for Joe Taylor for having provided such a useful tool to do these with and for all the open minded and kind amateurs here who have helped me on my way. 73s Roger G3XBM 2009/11/8 mal hamilton > WSPR is like a LAZY MAN using a WALKING STICK !!!!!! > G3KEV > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --0015175cd0e6a8cdf60477da7381 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Mal,

Personally I have found WSPR to be a most useful= tool when exploring LF propagation and station improvements. The most val= uable part has being able to go on the air and almost instantly get feedba= ck (via the WSPR database) about quite subtle changes to my station. The= change to my antenna a couple of days ago was an example when the reports= from M0BMU and G7NKS immediately told me that a real step change= improvement had been achieved.

Amateur radio is about experiments, new challenges etc. WSPR has allow= ed me to try some simple, but valuable, experiments these last few weeks= on 500kHz and I am grateful for Joe Taylor for having provided such a use= ful tool to do these with and for all the open minded and kind amateurs he= re who have helped me on my way.

73s
Roger G3XBM





2= 009/11/8 mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
WSPR is like=A0a LAZY MAN using a WAL= KING STICK=20 !!!!!!
G3KEV
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G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088
--0015175cd0e6a8cdf60477da7381-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME012-9aa4b06bd321fa; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:00:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME036-9aa4b06bd321fa; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:00:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBVsp-0007Ch-Mu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:58:51 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBVsl-0007CU-48 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:58:47 +0000 Received: from out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.240]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBVsf-0002JE-7H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:58:43 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AloFAN5KBktcHdDq/2dsb2JhbACCJSyLNQbGcoQ8BIFv X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,778,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="103618996" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.29.208.234]) by out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 20 Nov 2009 15:56:29 +0000 Message-ID: <002d01ca69fa$05887590$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <001f01ca69f6$d27d9fc0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:56:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: 137.7 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002A_01CA69FA.052B8880" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01CA69FA.052B8880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nw calling u on CW 137.7 PSE KKKKK ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 3:33 PM Subject: LF: 137.7 Some one on 137.7 qrs3 good audible sig but just got the end V = K pse listen on 137.0 for cw g3kev de mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01CA69FA.052B8880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Nw calling u on CW 137.7 PSE KKKKK
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Sent: Friday, November 20, 20= 09 3:33=20 PM
Subject: LF: 137.7

Some one on 137.7 qrs3 good audible= sig but just=20 got the end  V      K
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------=_NextPart_000_002A_01CA69FA.052B8880-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db10.mx.aol.com (rly-db10.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.85]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB084-aeb4af13e332b5; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 03:41:28 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB101-aeb4af13e332b5; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 03:41:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N5bPg-0005Uj-99 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:40:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N5bPf-0005Ua-UR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:40:19 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N5bOL-0006x3-87 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:38:58 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC25A4C809F for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:40:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E9354C8059 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:40:13 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4AF13DEC.7090507@online.fr> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:40:12 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XGJ 04-11.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Henny , Warren , Yes , yes ! strong signal of Warren' beacon last night ! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > Hi Warren,LF > Nice capture XGJ > Henny pa3cpm > best 73s > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzo= nden: > XGJ 04-11.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virusse= n het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Contr= oleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijl= agen worden afgehandeld. > > =20 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de08.mx.aol.com (rly-de08.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.144]) by air-de06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE062-4f84aff1959336; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:56:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE087-4f84aff1959336; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:55:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9Pdo-000111-T0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:54:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9Pdo-00010s-I0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:54:40 +0000 Received: from mailt.toya.net.pl ([217.113.224.9] ident=postfix) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9Pdn-0007tG-V8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:54:40 +0000 Received: from mail.toya.net.pl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.toya.net.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D0C62000004B for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:54:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.103] (unknown [10.11.152.246]) (Authenticated sender: unimlyn) by mail.toya.net.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0C37E2000008C for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:54:39 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4AFF190D.90501@toya.net.pl> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:54:37 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGlvdHIgTcWCeW5hcnNraQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 137kHz grabber in SP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Jacek Lipkowski wrote: > I've set up a temporary 137kHz grabber. Czesc Jacku, od razu sprawdzilem - no i dziala! :) Gratulacje - to chyba pierwszy graber w SP na 137 khz serdecznie pozdrawiam, Piotr, sq7mpj qth: Lodz /jo91rs/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (rly-mf07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.177]) by air-mf02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF023-9704afe55243af; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 01:59:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF076-9704afe55243af; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 01:58:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9CZd-0007GY-E8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 06:57:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9CZc-0007GP-VH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 06:57:28 +0000 Received: from smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com ([195.200.78.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9CZc-0003ov-BM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 06:57:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 822 invoked by uid 507); 14 Nov 2009 07:57:15 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO JR) (john.rabson@numeo.fr@217.67.155.178) by smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com with SMTP; 14 Nov 2009 07:57:15 +0100 Message-ID: <200911140757180734.0D4A657D@smtp2.numeo.fr> In-Reply-To: <4AFDE3D4.7070807@sighthound.demon.co.uk> References: <00df01ca6488$e9244a80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <5MsXcPDG6Z$KFw8w@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk> <4AFDC7CD.5000409@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <200911132205430250.0B2CC740@smtp2.numeo.fr> <4AFDE3D4.7070807@sighthound.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:57:18 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: PIRATES Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 On 13/11/2009 at 22:55 John P-G wrote: >I'm alright then, I passed my Morse test while I was still at school, at= =20 >Cullercoats Radio.... Ditto, but at King Edward biulding at GPO HQ. The key was screwed to the= right hand corner of the table and I am lefthanded! F5VLF/G3PAI From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de11.mx.aol.com (rly-de11.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.147]) by air-de08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE084-5154b02dde6175; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:32:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE116-5154b02dde6175; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:31:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NARse-0004c9-Qm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:30:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NARse-0004c0-4E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:30:16 +0000 Received: from imr-db02.mx.aol.com ([205.188.91.96]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NARsc-0001vA-1f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:30:16 +0000 Received: from imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (imo-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.136]) by imr-db02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nAHHU5Ho009048 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:30:05 -0500 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id l.d5f.5db508b3 (41811) for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:30:03 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:30:03 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: F4DTL@aol.com X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Trans. : LF: 136kHz WSPR tests Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_d5f.5db508b3.3834379b_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --part1_d5f.5db508b3.3834379b_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1258479002" -------------------------------1258479002 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -------------------------------1258479002 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
 -------------------------------1258479002-- --part1_d5f.5db508b3.3834379b_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: From: F4DTL@aol.com Full-name: F4DTL Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:59:08 EST Subject: Re: LF: 136kHz WSPR tests To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1258455548" X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 -------------------------------1258455548 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 No problem Roger, i can so start my WSPR beacon on 136 kHz at the same =20 time. =20 =20 F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 17/11/2009 11:44:20 Paris, Madrid, =20 rogerlapthorn@gmail.com a =E9crit : Dear all, Very encouraged by my results at 500kHz, I'd like to try some "low ERP"= =20 WSPR tests on 136kHz using the same small antenna and transverter (slight= ly=20 modified). Ideally I'd need stations like M0BMU, M0FMT, G7NKS and others= =20 not too far away from JO02dg to TX and to listen out for me, as these=20 stations get a good signal from me on 500kHz.=20 Please would you let me know if you'd be able to listen and upload 136kHz= =20 WSPR spots sometime in the next week or so? As yet I am not quite ready= to=20 start, but I'll let you know when I am. BTW, congratulations to the bigger stations on 500kHz achieving=20 transatlantic QSOs. 73s Roger G3XBM -------------------------------1258455548 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= FONT id=3Drole_document color=3D#000000 size=3D2 face=3DArial>
No problem Roger, i can so start my WSPR beacon on 136 kHz at the sam= e=20 time.
 
F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP
Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 17/11/2009 11:44:20 Paris, Madrid,=20 rogerlapthorn@gmail.com a =E9crit :
D= ear=20 all,

Very encouraged by my results at 500kHz, I'd like to try som= e "low=20 ERP" WSPR tests on 136kHz using the same small antenna and transverter= =20 (slightly modified).  Ideally I'd need stations like M0BMU, M0FMT,= G7NKS=20 and others not too far away from JO02dg to TX and to listen out for me,= as=20 these stations get a good signal from me on 500kHz.

Please wo= uld=20 you let me know if you'd be able to listen and upload 136kHz WSPR spots= =20 sometime in the next week or so? As yet I am not quite ready to star= t, but=20 I'll let you know when I am.

BTW, congratulations to the bigger= =20 stations on 500kHz achieving transatlantic QSOs.

73s
Roger G3X= BM
 
 
 -------------------------------1258455548-- --part1_d5f.5db508b3.3834379b_boundary-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db04.mx.aol.com (rly-db04.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.79]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB082-abf4b03bfcf128; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:35:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB045-abf4b03bfcf128; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:35:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAgvj-0000kx-CG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:34:27 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAgvi-0000ko-OS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:34:26 +0000 Received: from web28102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.122]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAgvi-00062i-IF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:34:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 35968 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Nov 2009 09:34:20 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1258536860; bh=+T+Sf8imC7ccjqFvOdG8rnGX89qmABh9ZYISG7+FOYo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=J0nZaIio0Osnn+7ZUSzUbFPumncnyaVUHAIBW2wel/320HUzpDJ8Nyv4KrACKlTBllHeT9TP+fhBqsbM/hPEz6G4Z9fxZH30w0wMnRr0BOHMIYu7VW3pKqdkZyBdGzvnvc6N0HPWYgeQJTvOacRAKaTRnJ+8+nWYe4IKIh7dXxs= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FKg/kE4YN1smyBS6ig1tYL4YDsLCyzOBeYHJOyN05Vj+RUwSPQu9Et7QLX8tqMrfoGtAtGIyeMLGXiLfTOhJIZPCfXoxlaTaQzo0CFiIBaPE65D/EK9KDYXfXg3NIotXbSxBwZj30drKpX9rsdYHlCR0ndR3ar7wYLDrst7QYmM=; Message-ID: <798375.34836.qm@web28102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: cKum_rMVM1nQbfnSXeK6liu_vr7qRz6pOLA84OrkRWFBst251HvwNf4cv1qLD5jYYONt8VNWIUoPXVwDRWtEuL06FKHetsKXD82EvIUTo2U.qWe8Zr31EkMAh0Oe8XNYxA2zYr9zcYHXNULNpFbL2D7XMhGQ0yNH6PGugA6TlHbxoUjKPDaO4ZaUp6lzmfdOK.mzA.rWJJ9i7b03aGpqjn_gjbkZ8cm.K.lHG6v.TOnQfcHzzY9kEzODQ7VYvHQsSo.AX9JlCZ6.Npw3dnJPYSvN1MyZ9wg9B9j8SZVzSgo6hopEli_xQlOX8vadMZgrjzsgNdnFJg9PJg-- Received: from [86.140.72.194] by web28102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:34:20 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:34:20 +0000 (GMT) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Fw: Re: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-555521107-1258536860=:34836" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m251.2 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-555521107-1258536860=:34836 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi agn LF =A0 Sorry didn't finish my train of thought before the wonderfully world of Vi= sta decided prematurely to send the mail and I didn't get a chance to gram= mar and spell check it but hopefully the message got across. =A0 73 petefmt =A0 --- On Wed, 18/11/09, M0FMT wrote: From: M0FMT Subject: Re: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 9:26 Hi LF =A0 I think the issue is intermodulation products caused by over driving the= the linear RF stages of the TX into distortion=A0because when Jim reduces= drive the sidebands petty well disappear at this range. These observation= is based upon test carried out yesterday. There is another issue Jim seem= s to have which is that his PA grossly over heats (I think I am right) whe= n he reduces drive and that shouldn't happen. For modulation to take place= the output=A0of the modulator has to be mixed (hetrodyned) with the RF si= gnal. In this case I am guessing that the carrier is modulated by noise (5= 0c/s say) in the non linear (over driven linear RF stages) in the TX drive= r or output. The fact the PA over heats on reduced drive suggests to me the bias on the= PA transistors is being altered by changes to the drive anther indication= that the TX output may not be entirely linear --- On Wed, 18/11/09, James Moritz wrote: From: James Moritz Subject: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 1:13 Dear Jim LF Group, Looking at the sidebands on the G7NKS WSPR signals, mains hum or other noi= se by itself is not a sufficient explanation of what is seen. Simply addin= g 50Hz, 150Hz, etc. noise into the PC audio channel, then feeding the resu= lt into an SSB TX would give unwanted CW at frequencies offset from the SS= B carrier frequency by +/-50Hz, 150Hz and so on, i.e. with the carrier "di= al frequency" at 502.4kHz, unmodulated carriers would appear at 502.45kHz,= 502.55kHz and so on, in addition to the WSPR signal at around 503.9kHz.= However, these would probably largely be removed by the SSB filter in the= rig. Instead, we see unwanted sidebands offset from the wanted WSPR signa= l frequency by +/- 50Hz, 150Hz, with identical modulation to the wanted si= gnal. This requires some sort of non-linear process to cause the intermodu= lation between the presumed mains noise and the WSPR signal somewhere in= the TX chain. One possibility is that intermodulation occurs in the PA. Jim's descriptio= n suggests that he is persuading the HF PA in the IC735 to produce output= at 500k. At this frequency, the PA linearity may well be poor due to the= impedance matching, coupling, decoupling and feedback components in the= PA being wrong for the frequency, and high flux densities occuring in fer= rite components due to the low operating frequency. But this wouldn't expl= ain why Jim also gets multiple received signals from a strong station with= a clean signal, which implies some identical noise source and distortion= in the receive path. It would also mean the mains noise getting through= the filtering in the rig somehow. A possibility that would explain the unwanted sidebands appearing on both= TX and RX signals is if one of the oscillators in the system has mains no= ise sidebands. The sound card clock seems unlikely, since this is just a= simple crystal oscillator. I see the IC735 has some sort of multi-loop PL= L synthesiser, which would certainly be prone to this type of spurious sig= nal, since any kind of mains noise getting in would modulate the VCO frequ= encies, and would probably be the same on transmit and receive. This could= be checked by receiving a clean carrier somewhere around 500kHz, and exam= ining the audio output using Spec Lab or Argo or similar to see if 50Hz an= d 150Hz sidebands are present on the received audio tone. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Cowburn" To: Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:26 PM Subject: LF: rule #2 - assumption is the brother of all foul ups > LF >=20 >=20 >=20 > Sidebands are back!=A0 I think its caused by my TX getting hot and bothe= red by > struggling at 500.=A0 From cold it txs 50 watts but this soon drops back= to > around 35, and the sidebands appear.=A0 My sigs are better so having the= txfr > outside the shack and at the antenna is a vast improvement, but I now ne= ed > to work on the cooling. =20 --0-555521107-1258536860=:34836 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


Hi agn LF
 
Sorry didn't finish my train of thought before the wonderfully world= of Vista decided prematurely to send the mail and I didn't get a chance= to grammar and spell check it but hopefully the message got across.
 
73 petefmt
 
--- On Wed, 18/11/09, M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk&= gt; wrote:

From: M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>
Subje= ct: Re: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Dat= e: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 9:26

Hi LF
 
I think the issue is intermodulation products caused by over driving= the the linear RF stages of the TX into distortion because when Jim= reduces drive the sidebands petty well disappear at this range. These obs= ervation is based upon test carried out yesterday. There is another issue= Jim seems to have which is that his PA grossly over heats (I think I am= right) when he reduces drive and that shouldn't happen. For modulation to= take place the output of the modulator has to be mixed (hetrodyned)= with the RF signal. In this case I am guessing that the carrier is modula= ted by noise (50c/s say) in the non linear (over driven linear RF stages)= in the TX driver or output.
The fact the PA over heats on reduced drive suggests to me the bias= on the PA transistors is being altered by changes to the drive anther ind= ication that the TX output may not be entirely linear

--- On Wed= , 18/11/09, James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>= wrote:

From: James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworl= d.com>
Subject: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org
Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 1:13

Dear Jim LF Group,

Looking at the sidebands= on the G7NKS WSPR signals, mains hum or other noise by itself is not a su= fficient explanation of what is seen. Simply adding 50Hz, 150Hz, etc. nois= e into the PC audio channel, then feeding the result into an SSB TX would= give unwanted CW at frequencies offset from the SSB carrier frequency by= +/-50Hz, 150Hz and so on, i.e. with the carrier "dial frequency" at 502.4= kHz, unmodulated carriers would appear at 502.45kHz, 502.55kHz and so on,= in addition to the WSPR signal at around 503.9kHz. However, these would= probably largely be removed by the SSB filter in the rig. Instead, we see= unwanted sidebands offset from the wanted WSPR signal frequency by +/- 50= Hz, 150Hz, with identical modulation to the wanted signal. This requires= some sort of non-linear process to cause the intermodulation between the= presumed mains noise and the WSPR signal somewhere in the TX chain.
One possibility is that intermodulation occurs in the PA. Jim's description suggests that= he is persuading the HF PA in the IC735 to produce output at 500k. At thi= s frequency, the PA linearity may well be poor due to the impedance matchi= ng, coupling, decoupling and feedback components in the PA being wrong for= the frequency, and high flux densities occuring in ferrite components due= to the low operating frequency. But this wouldn't explain why Jim also ge= ts multiple received signals from a strong station with a clean signal, wh= ich implies some identical noise source and distortion in the receive path= . It would also mean the mains noise getting through the filtering in the= rig somehow.

A possibility that would explain the unwanted sideban= ds appearing on both TX and RX signals is if one of the oscillators in the= system has mains noise sidebands. The sound card clock seems unlikely, si= nce this is just a simple crystal oscillator. I see the IC735 has some sor= t of multi-loop PLL synthesiser, which would certainly be prone to this type= of spurious signal, since any kind of mains noise getting in would modula= te the VCO frequencies, and would probably be the same on transmit and rec= eive. This could be checked by receiving a clean carrier somewhere around= 500kHz, and examining the audio output using Spec Lab or Argo or similar= to see if 50Hz and 150Hz sidebands are present on the received audio tone= .

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU


----- Original Messa= ge ----- From: "James Cowburn" <james.cowburn@virgin.net>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Monday, Nov= ember 16, 2009 8:26 PM
Subject: LF: rule #2 - assumption is the brother= of all foul ups


> LF
>
>
>
> Sidebands are= back!  I think its caused by my TX getting hot and bothered by
&g= t; struggling at 500.  From cold it txs 50 watts but this soon drops= back to
> around 35, and the sidebands appear.  My sigs are be= tter so having the txfr
> outside the shack and at the antenna is a= vast improvement, but I now need
> to work on the cooling.

<= BR>



=20 --0-555521107-1258536860=:34836-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (rly-mf08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.178]) by air-mf07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF072-9784b0702801d3; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:56:44 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF086-9784b0702801d3; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:56:33 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBaVp-0001Ve-Hk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:55:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBaVp-0001VV-2Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:55:25 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBaVo-0002lY-I5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:55:25 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 454D97B802A for ; 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boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0099_01CA6607.DD4BFF70" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01CA6607.DD4BFF70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Walter, ufb copy: 2009-11-15 14:22 DI2AG 0.503899 +13 0 JN59no 0.5 DL4RAJ JN68kj 185 136 73 Clemens DL4RAJ ----- Original Message ----- From: Walter und Marianne Staubach To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 1:06 PM Subject: LF: DI2AG WSPR Dear MF, DI2AG is already on air in WSPR. 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Hi Walter,
 
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2009-11-15 14:22   DI2AG   0.503899   +13   0   JN59no   0.5   DL4RAJ   JN68kj   185   136 
 
73
Clemens
DL4RAJ
 
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Dear MF,
      = ; DI2AG is=20 already on air in WSPR. QRG 505.090KHz, PWR 0.4W ERP. Duty cycle 33%= . The=20 beacon will be busy until tomorrow morning.
73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF
 
 


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MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1532321340-1257721314=:39876" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, LINES_OF_YELLING,LINES_OF_YELLING_2 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d243.1 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-1532321340-1257721314=:39876 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Congratulations Chris =A0 A nice piece of work. And thank you for making 600metres the kind of band= it should be. =A0 I support your comments. We really need a band the size of the Norwegian= allocation to=A0coexist with=A0these incompatible, to CW,=A0modes.=A0 =A0 Very 73=A0=A0 Petefmt --- On Sun, 8/11/09, Chris Osborn wrote: From: Chris Osborn Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO To: "LF Group" Date: Sunday, 8 November, 2009, 18:03 LF It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m. This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 600m /= 80m. Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0CF -= No. 998. QSO break-down according to mode: =A0=A0=A0 928 CW,=A0 34 RTTY=A0 and=A0= =A0 5 QRSS 600m STATIONS My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many of= these go back to the start of the UK=A0 600m allocation in March 2007. Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding beaco= ns). Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of agai= n:=A0 G3KZU, G3YHV . . . Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT:=A0 G3UNT, G3V= TT, G4GDR. . . MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the same sta= tions many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of my total conta= cts. My most frequently worked stations are: GW3UEP - 120=A0=A0=A0=A0 G3KEV - 102=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 M0FMT - 90=A0=A0=A0=A0= G3ZWH=A0 -=A0 80=A0 (alas now SK) G3DXZ=A0=A0=A0 -=A0=A0 67=A0=A0=A0=A0 G4GDR -=A0=A0 60=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 EI0C= F/ GI4DPE=A0 -=A0 51=A0=A0 M0JXM - 48 G3UNT=A0=A0=A0 -=A0=A0 45=A0=A0=A0=A0 G3VTT=A0 -=A0=A0 38 CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a cross-ba= nd QSO: DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . . and our few EU MF friends are still active: ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . . WSPR ON 600m I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for the WSPR= mode was never achieved for=A0 hand sent Morse (CW), which after all is= the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF marine band. If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stations oper= ating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band then I guess= it may be time for me to QSY. 73 Chris G3XIZ =20 --0-1532321340-1257721314=:39876 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Congratulations Chris
 
A nice piece of work. And thank you for making 600metres the kind of= band it should be.
 
I support your comments. We really need a band the size of the Norweg= ian allocation to coexist with these incompatible, to CW, m= odes. 
 
Very 73   Petefmt

--- On Sun, 8/11/09, Chris Osbo= rn <g3xiz@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

From: Chris Osborn <g3xiz@yahoo.co.uk>Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO
To: "LF Group" <r= sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Date: Sunday, 8 November, 2009, 18:03
LF

It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO= using 600m.
This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of whi= ch were 600m / 80m.

Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up= G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0CF - No. 998.

QSO break-down according to= mode:     928 CW,  34 RTTY  and   5 QR= SS

600m STATIONS<= BR>
My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many of these go back to the star= t of the UK  600m allocation in March 2007.
Of these I have worked= or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding beacons).
Many stations= on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of again:  G3KZ= U, G3YHV . . .
Others were once very active but have subsequently gone= QRT:  G3UNT, G3VTT, G4GDR. . .

MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED

With so few active operators it is obviou= s that one will work the same stations many times and the top 10 stations= account for 70% of my total contacts.
My most frequently worked statio= ns are:

GW3UEP - 120     G3KEV - 102  = ;    M0FMT - 90     G3ZWH  - = 80  (alas now SK)
G3DXZ    -   67 &= nbsp;   G4GDR -   60      EI0= CF/ GI4DPE  -  51   M0JXM - 48
G3UNT  &nb= sp; -   45     G3VTT  -   38<= BR>
CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIO= NS

There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and= enjoy a cross-band QSO:
DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF .= . .

and our few EU MF friends are still active:
ON4KTJ, OR7T an= d OZ8NJ. . .

WSPR ON 600m
I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for th= e WSPR mode was never achieved for  hand sent Morse (CW), which after= all is the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF marine= band.
If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger sta= tions operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band th= en I guess it may be time for me to QSY.

73 Chris G3XIZ









=20 --0-1532321340-1257721314=:39876-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG014-9f44b0c41e9229; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:28:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG016-9f44b0c41e9229; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:28:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ND1yz-0007IN-VL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:27:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ND1yz-0007IE-6N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:27:29 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ND1yw-00057C-CX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:27:29 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so6818815bwz.4 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:27:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=R2oCmk+rRylONApOIWqDspiHvqOfnQVo+MUt2ynKJjY=; b=Ws63yTpeoN20otuYsmFGsh++Pj6Wh0+JXBxjdj93aah3OxQLIcPZVcLNLYb/C8/iaw wKE34zFZS5LESbTRljz9EJQnke+FqSIdQt48JquL6M7uRzExFEzBUR33sE4oUKda5tMj WRdKqcZMZJhYYN9lPd+OYOKoVoCbPMYODqq2c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=SYw98b75jUe+osWP5Diril1qYg2xXN2u3gU5nLzAFBWNKJPGXVv5Aro0tzs6XaPwSQ A92eZ7uPnQyLyEJH28UzbhhocCOMAka2XycaWOeB9N5/p6zvWTkngCO4A8EsJ4tCwMwV 9p3guI0ooUL3TnklRCbWynBp+UblT3y5qHx7U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.35.142 with SMTP id p14mr2437742bkd.21.1259094440661; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:27:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <9afca2640911241140j230515e9kcbcaffd3911ccb82@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:27:20 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911241227o2150e5ddn71496f2423f50633@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: IRF510 500kHz PA stability issues - advice please Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00032555aa16dfd2da047923c42d X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d300.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --00032555aa16dfd2da047923c42d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Andy, Thanks for the quick feedback. The 500kHz antenna is a 5m long vertical with a spiral top hat. It is fed via a (thickish) ferrite rod wound with the required inductance to resonate and this is tapped at the 50 ohm point (very low down - just a couple of turns). Well that is the general idea! Yes the IRF510 is rated at 100V. 73s Roger 2009/11/24 Andy Talbot > If you've studied the drain waveform when operating inrto a correct > load, and assuming its all within design guidelines, then the trouble > is because of nasty impedances presented by the antenna during the > tuning process. > > What sort of antenna matching are you using? The often suggested idea > of an an adjustable tap onto the loading coil can lead to damage as, > when the antenna is detuned, the small number of turns of the link, > with an untuned coil, appear not far different from a short circuit. > A Class E PA, when presented with a slightly inductive short circuit > can get a bit stressed. > > On my antenna over the years on 73, 137 now 500kHz the system has > always been fed in series, using a ferrite tapped transformer to match > load impedance. I kept well away from tapped or link windings as > they are not easy to calculate or predict reliably. WIth a series fed > system, a detuned antenna results in a high impedance. This may not > always good news either to some class-E designs, but all my LF/MF PAs > are completely open-circuit-proof voltage fed designs. The only > true class-E one here was for 1.8MHz, and can be seen at > http://www.g4jnt.com/TopbandPA.pdf . This was completely imune to > open and short circuits and seemed very robust; but I did use the > meatier and more robust higher voltage IRF540. Doesn't the IRF510 only > have a 100V rating? > > Andy > www.g4jnt.com > > This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health > and safety police > > > > 2009/11/24 Roger Lapthorn : > > I've been using a single IRF510 FET PA stage on 500kHz and it produces > > around 6-7W of RF. But, when adjusting my antenna I've managed to damage > > several devices now. I think the stage is running somewhere towards > class-E > > looking at the PA drain waveform on the scope and I believe either the > stage > > is going unstable or it is running in a condition in which too much > current > > (and heat) is taken and the device fails.500kHz teh ant > > > > Are there any simple "rules of thumb" or design/biasing/decoupling > > guidelines to ensure that my devices don't destroy themselves with a less > > than perfect load? > > > > Any simple advice would be appreciated. > > > > 73s > > Roger G3XBM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > > > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --00032555aa16dfd2da047923c42d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andy,

Thanks for the quick feedback. The 500kHz antenna is a 5m lon= g vertical with a spiral top hat. It is fed via a (thickish) ferrite rod= wound with the required inductance to resonate and this is tapped at the= 50 ohm point (very low down - just a couple of turns). Well that is the= general idea!

Yes the IRF510 is rated at 100V.

73s
Roger


2009/11/24 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
If you've= studied the drain waveform when operating inrto a correct
load, and assuming its all within design guidelines, then the trouble
is because of nasty impedances presented by the antenna during the
tuning process.

What sort of antenna matching are you using? =A0The often suggested idea of an an adjustable tap onto the loading coil can lead to damage as,
when the antenna is detuned, the small number of turns of the link,
with an untuned coil, appear not far different from a short circuit.
=A0A Class E PA, when presented with a slightly inductive short circuit can get a bit stressed.

On my antenna over the years on 73, 137 now 500kHz the system has
always been fed in series, using a ferrite tapped transformer to match
load impedance. =A0 I kept well away from tapped or link windings as
they are not easy to calculate or predict reliably. =A0WIth a series fed system, =A0a detuned antenna results in a high impedance. =A0This may not<= br> always good news either to some class-E designs, but all my LF/MF PAs
are completely open-circuit-proof voltage fed designs. =A0 =A0The only
true class-E one here was for 1.8MHz, and can be seen at
http://ww= w.g4jnt.com/TopbandPA.pdf =A0 . =A0 =A0This was completely imune to open and short circuits and seemed very robust; but I did use the
meatier and more robust higher voltage IRF540. Doesn't the IRF510 only=
have a 100V rating?

Andy
www.g4jnt.com

This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health
and safety police



2009/11/24 Roger Lapthorn <r= ogerlapthorn@gmail.com>:
> I've been using a single IRF510 FET PA stage on= 500kHz and it produces
> around 6-7W of RF. But, when adjusting my antenna I've managed to= damage
> several devices now.=A0 I think the stage is running somewhere toward= s class-E
> looking at the PA drain waveform on the scope and I believe either th= e stage
> is going unstable or it is running in a condition in which too much= current
> (and heat) is taken and the device fails.500kHz teh ant
>
> Are there any simple "rules of thumb" or design/biasing/dec= oupling
> guidelines to ensure that my devices don't destroy themselves wit= h a less
> than perfect load?
>
> Any simple advice would be appreciated.
>
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> http://g= 3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
> http://www.g3xbm= .co.uk
> G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088
>




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--00032555aa16dfd2da047923c42d-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (rly-mg10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.116]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG091-a3a4af9dad717a; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:28:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG104-a3a4af9dad717a; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:27:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7yEq-0000Vy-D8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:26:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7yEp-0000Vp-S5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:26:55 +0000 Received: from mail-yw0-f193.google.com ([209.85.211.193]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7yEn-0005lk-0N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:26:55 +0000 Received: by ywh31 with SMTP id 31so850155ywh.30 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:26:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wBDjgCIyBjq97nFLDicpH5PRKW1vKezDafcXswY7/pk=; b=g2RCF+BYOzYHdsAnPWRSFa2nyskzlYymhH2xWRpMtLKv6zQi+aiELBN3uLYXzUAdn0 rUXMtCUqQWIlfFIl58s64k0pqqjmjj5ixJYVADzrrlVxFGjsXvuZPvvkSXJVnL4Rp2IN 5kDMYmIfTSKm/PbfxUMM5el/4Ms2ituFXT4LY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Veiyq0KWBjdDTz7sH/0ZDn0F5jW0Cqpthoz6g6eFlYA5p8L0ul68M3eo+hXjWJvd/l qcVCvMp+nyR8iabjRchynq2/sfnwVJ5IZzapmlGwjh/W/i7rgvTqAbbdJCydQO4N4wRS mnBfR4NcUSUg4oUGTS14CRZ/FICtU185pJiQY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.44.2 with SMTP id r2mr1202982ybr.77.1257888404718; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:26:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <001101ca621e$dcdc3380$96949a80$@princeton.edu> References: <001101ca621e$dcdc3380$96949a80$@princeton.edu> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:26:44 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70911101326h1635833cr9e2fb43887612da8@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: jwfisher@alumni.princeton.edu DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500 kHz WSPR de VE1JF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Jim, Congrats on the Canadian 600 meter allocation! I would caution you against making the mistake that the ARRL made here in the U.S. and that was asking for a 20W ERP limit under the erroneous assumption that they could fly under the radar by asking for lower power. In fact the FCC just as easily granted 200W ERP to the WE2XGR stations and would have probably granted more power. WSPR, WOLF, QRSS etc. are fantastic tools and are absolutely necessary under very weak signal conditions but appeal to only a small subset of the amateur community. With 200W ERP we can easily be heard at transcontinental distances on cw and even ssb has crossed the ocean on 500kHz. I worry that each new amateur band seems to get less and less power, 250 Watts on 30 meters, 50 Watts on 60 meters - the logical progression would be 20 Watts on 500 and 1 Watt on137kHz. Eventually you will be able to transmit anywhere - with zero power! 73 Warren K2ORS On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Jim and Hannelore Fisher wrote: > Congratulations on #1000, G3XIZ! > > > > I chair the Radio Amateurs of Canada (RAC) LF/MF/HF Band Planning Commit= tee, > and several of us are interested in participating in the recently-author= ized > Canadian Developmental Service experiments on 500 kHz. We are receiving > active support on this effort from the Regulatory Affairs wing of RAC,= who > are Industry Canada=92s gatekeepers. This period is preliminary to the= coming > world meeting where this will be discussed. We hope to get several stati= ons > transmitting 25% of the time and a lot more across Canada receiving, so= it > should add to WSPR=92s activity and spotting at this frequency. > > > > I=92m not sure what you were saying about hand-sent CW vs. WSPR; I also= love > CW but am amazed what WSPR can offer. =A0Other authorized Canadian > participants in this program are already using CW, and most of my 100,00= 0+ > QSOs over 53+ years have been CW, but we are expecting our little group= to > propose two frequencies (we must be specific) and use 503.9 WSPR beacon > mode, break in using the WSJT WSPR mode, and QSY to our =93working frequ= ency=94, > where we can use any mode within the 1 kHz permissible bandwidth. Conten= ders > for working frequency QSOs might vary from some of the JT modes to OLIVI= A to > CW depending on what signal levels we are experiencing with feasible > antennas and our power limitations. The purpose of all this will be able= to > understand whether 600M can offer utility for ham radio-scale stations= for > emergency, and how its usability varies with conditions including aurora= . > > > > Last night, using my 160M 1/2w sloper aimed at the Pacific Rim, I spotte= d > SM6BHZ over 40 times on 502.4+. > > > > We are looking for info on successful approaches to generating WSPR and > other modes on 500 kHz. I=92m presently thinking of a transverter with= my > transceiver=92s transverter output, but I=92m open and others in our gro= up may > want to try other approaches. > > > > 73, > > > > Jim, VE1JF > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df12.mx.aol.com (rly-df12.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.25]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF062-5994affe6a1100; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:31:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF128-5994affe6a1100; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:31:47 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9dJq-00069B-Je for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:30:58 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9dJq-000691-4n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:30:58 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9dJn-0007EJ-Lb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:30:58 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so4873415bwz.4 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:30:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wRYNWtAStUP+6ZS1PMSdeQ10ovYatpqAqpcCtePyGnU=; b=MD3cebrgxogYnvXAaQL/4VeXHWWp9n0vjZS3ZmLGYQS9r3DhU92355erODokLz5Jx0 OII+nA3SVwInrZJa3sJv5HKYVAgE85yAPdnzO2w+iptgcyvmhpYzJTV06XtUZ+XTjGiF X1leQUK/BaiC7ARA/TCNE65p1aJzJwfxyiQXY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=e4ep2yWPFTztz6PQaL5dLqvfz1NJE6quREZrbNtNIre2l9L3FKF/XCGEuW2JlYPzF1 nTYKyNsuMrRRYBI8XWLQTkuzj75xqhb9kJBFOLVKyx9KMLyHJYChWYJknZc5uh6bfLD2 6eg4sdMfE3500TAvzRP80sQhYZKS+RJ5ArIYM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.162.129 with SMTP id l1mr636118hbd.206.1258284649945; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:30:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9afca2640911150318w25d40bb9w7c407d9d71e9097d@mail.gmail.com> References: <9afca2640911150318w25d40bb9w7c407d9d71e9097d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:30:49 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz CW - calling CQ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363b9bf6961cd004786739b5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m203.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0016363b9bf6961cd004786739b5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It'll never catch on. Mild source coding, inefficient error correction, incoherent demodulator and an inability to reduce receiver bandwidth anything below 30Hz :-{ Andy www.g4jnt.com this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny state 2009/11/15 Roger Lapthorn > If anyone's about, I am trying to use a new fangled digital mode (it's > called CW) on 500kHz. Calling CQ around 501.7 and looking for any calls. > > Have heard M0JXM calling CQ but he did not hear me. > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > --0016363b9bf6961cd004786739b5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It'll never catch on.=A0
Mild source coding, inefficient error correction, incoherent demodula= tor and an=A0inability=A0to reduce=A0receiver bandwidth=A0anything below= =A030Hz :-{

Andy
www.g4jnt.= com

this email has been scanned for political correctness by th= e nanny state


2009/11/15 Roger Lapthorn <= ;rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>= ;
If anyone's about, I am tr= ying to use a new fangled digital mode (it's called CW) on 500kHz. Cal= ling CQ around 501.7 and looking for any calls.

Have heard M0JXM calling CQ but he did not hear me.

73s
Roge= r G3XBM

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G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088

--0016363b9bf6961cd004786739b5-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME082-9ac4aff42ee399; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:53:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME038-9ac4aff42ee399; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:53:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9SPw-0002Lu-0Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:52:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9SPv-0002Ll-JZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:52:31 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.152]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9SPu-0000FJ-U5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:52:31 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3422.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8F4451C00082 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:52:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3422.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7FEC41C00083 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:52:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.89.43]) by mwinf3422.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 345401C00082 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:52:25 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091114235225214.345401C00082@mwinf3422.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:52:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: Re: LF: Who / where is OR2ELN ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01CA6585.83ABCA90" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01CA6585.83ABCA90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is the list of tx stations as of 2350 14/11/09 MF 03 .. looks= to be a little wet ? G4JNT 0.503852=20 G0NBD 0.503900=20 G3XBM 0.503904=20 OR2ELN 0.503908=20 G4WGT 0.503914=20 W3HH 0.503916=20 =20 From: Graham=20 Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 11:48 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Who / where is OR2ELN ?? 2009-11-14 23:14 OR2ELN 0.503908 -33 0 MF03 501 = G0NBD IO83 11740 326 =20 Just decoded ? tnx - G=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01CA6585.83ABCA90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This is the list of tx stations as of= 2350 =20 14/11/09    MF 03 .. looks to  be a little = wet=20 ?
 
<= /TR>
G4JNT 0.503852
G0NBD 0.503900
G3XBM 0.503904
OR2ELN 0.503908
G4WGT 0.503914
W3HH 0.503916
 
 
 

From: Graham
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 11:48 PM
Subject: LF: Who / where is OR2ELN ??

 2009-11-14 23:14   OR2ELN   0.503908   -33   0   MF03   501   G0NBD   IO83   11740   326 
 
Just  decoded ?
 
tnx - G
 




------=_NextPart_000_0016_01CA6585.83ABCA90-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da06.mx.aol.com (rly-da06.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.80]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA054-a784af6b2c9d0; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:00:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA068-a784af6b2c9d0; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:00:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N76QR-0005m1-NJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:59:19 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N76QR-0005ls-A5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:59:19 +0000 Received: from ey-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.78.148]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N76PS-0008FH-4j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:58:19 +0000 Received: by ey-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 3so535311eyh.16 for ; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:59:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Y/4qbvjB/YF1Zug8aTVewVAS2hUUHgkuVwvBUVSSSmo=; b=NVvdSXz9+oXsVR4tnyhy12aqkK2Dhd+19aQ8EjqWo2M0TQIKwrsOBaim12DzHNvlYQ N/G6rL1ru6yXc45vRwrjeFTJ4YWJoYJI8GFvjZBriWUtbept9OxFiuHl2SemhL8pp1GD qe259OF/06wJrjFB2Cz37QXeJ+WklJBLVwgu0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=MQXoHQAALS5u9e4FUTb5Zh+YKG5hKSuGeDjy1/MIhtRtrNBcBZ6I3f9pdz/aHU05d9 sGqJePWao2ohre2GpUud1JRnJKODy0eG1cLt4HBEx3hw8rUEN4924B0xnRKhHkqzmOwW TscFRWFLGzYiINW8QD/Cb+vGdvAqovBuZhiwk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.85.14 with SMTP id t14mr2075166wee.222.1257681556416; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:59:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:59:16 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: cb39ddd760640fdc Message-ID: From: John Gould To: "Rsgb_Lf_Group@Blacksheep. Org" X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: New allocations for Norwegian radio Amateurs Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d64109692a240477dace27 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m227.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0016e6d64109692a240477dace27 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 As of November 6th 2009 a number of additions to amateur radio licensing regulations in Norway went into force. In addition to allocations at 5 and 70MHz access to 493 - 510 kHz on secondary basis, 100 W, A1A (CW) only was authorised. Full details (for those who can understand Norwegian - which I can't do) is at http://www.lovdata.no/ltavd1/filer/sf-20091105-1340.html 73 John, G3WKL --0016e6d64109692a240477dace27 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
As of November 6th 2009 a number of= additions to amateur=20 radio licensing regulations in Norway went into force.=A0 In addition to= allocations at 5 and 70MHz access to 493 - 510 kHz on secondary basis, 10= 0 W, A1A (CW)=20 only was authorised.

Full details (for those who can understand Nor= wegian - which I can't do) is at

http://www.lovda= ta.no/ltavd1/filer/sf-20091105-1340.html

73 John, G3WKL


--0016e6d64109692a240477dace27-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (rly-mf03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.173]) by air-mf09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF091-9504af69c32319; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:24:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF036-9504af69c32319; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:23:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N74v8-0004su-M8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:22:54 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N74v8-0004sl-7J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:22:54 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N74v6-0003hK-2g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:22:53 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98A9851C002 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:22:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED7BF3862 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:22:42 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id 43A9618056; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:22:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from 12.168-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (12.168-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.240.168.12]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:22:42 +0100 Message-ID: <20091108112242.uuglokktzi8kw0oc@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:22:42 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <9afca2640910310528p4f07557aifdc0557a68bfeff8@mail.gmail.com> <004501ca5a35$30eff840$0900a8c0@lark> <4F89D5F0D43E42F9B344F909CACE0ECD@JimPC> In-Reply-To: <4F89D5F0D43E42F9B344F909CACE0ECD@JimPC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.240.168.12 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz attenuation graphs? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear Alan, Jim, over the 420km G4JNT-OR7T path there is a +/-20dB day/night difference 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting James Moritz : > Dear Alan, LF Group, > > G3NYK wrote: >> Generally at LF the skywave starts to equal or exceed the >> groundwave strength at ranges exceeding 700km. It may be a little less >> that >> that at 500k. > > ...And yet, when I watch the signal level of G4JNT's WSPR beacon at night, I > see short duration deep fades of 20 - 30 dB quite often, and sometimes > enhancements over the daytime level of several dB also. During the day, the > signal level shows very little variation. So even at a distance of about > 120km, it would seem the ground wave an sky wave strengths must be > comparable, in order to produce the fades. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df04.mx.aol.com (rly-df04.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.17]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF014-5424b00501366; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:01:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF041-5424b00501366; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:01:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9kL6-0000EX-QH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:00:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9kL6-0000EO-Bh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:00:44 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f211.google.com ([209.85.220.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9kL5-0002SZ-LA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:00:44 +0000 Received: by fxm3 with SMTP id 3so440070fxm.4 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:00:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=y7QB5wgK1Zu6oADN5pZnbID8lYxCqzwRP1pxUT6dIRs=; b=SpLASinMMovXWpW7U+YnTBwd5n447yPpSi+halUkh6Ai90PtZGpNP1F/gwXU2pmiGD WfeE1u6rUM9gFNpb1pkRz2WLSHrE17cezVoem4q+54RQOP60ShhJuEpL+V7pmbE+L8vg 8h56Byi6/eWlL63U8xAtNtEhStoRIJk+DbpBo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=w3ei7NhTtm7NdOdo3lG6cfsIeNKCtJ3I4WY0BQ2E52hkRWSG8yDbPvY94oH80KbyDZ kwXFG/SNHICMFdxa4aCLTXEBDB268EAw8oDIFLYQigi8Hhb/p5L2qIImKHNd/hgUHTWh tCLl+Yn+Xh6ApVCutQjUO6WgB8qMVoTZZSXTE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.156.14 with SMTP id k14mr683608hbc.181.1258311637249; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:00:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B004A56.5050907@usa.net> References: <4B004A56.5050907@usa.net> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:00:37 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Weak Signals - was 500kHz CW - calling CQ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f855e627af1904786d8253 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d240.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001485f855e627af1904786d8253 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 No, no one objected to the CW comments :-) The names are irrelevant on the slide, but I forgot to remove them. If running the .PPT file in *presentation mode only*, click on the loudspeaker symbol which plays the sounds which are embedded within the PPT file. I * think* they can also be played by double clicking the loudspeaker while in edit mode. Was rather surprised to find that all versions of powerpoint supported embedded sounds If viewing the .PDF, the sounds are availalble in the companion .ZIP file Andy www.g4jnt.com this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny state 2009/11/15 Alberto di Bene > Andy Talbot wrote: > > *This presentation was aimed at Microwave operators, but has plenty of > relevance to LF* > * * > *http://g4jnt.com/MartleSham.htm > Includes soundclips of CW buried in noise with accurately defined S/N > ratios* > > Andy > > Very nice presentation Andy, > > there were any grumpy and disgruntled OMs in the audience objecting to > your dismissal > of CW as an effective weak-signal mode ? :-) > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > > P.S. All the audio link in your presentation are broken as they all refer > to WAV files on you C: > disk, which of course is not accessible when playing the presentation. > > > > > --001485f855e627af1904786d8253 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
No, no one objected to the CW comments :-)
=A0
The names are irrelevant on the slide, but I forgot to remove them.= =A0 If running the .PPT file in presentation mode only, click on= the loudspeaker symbol which plays the sounds which are embedded within= the PPT file.=A0 I think they can also be played by double click= ing the loudspeaker while in edit mode.=A0=A0 Was rather surprised to find= that all versions of powerpoint supported embedded sounds
=A0
If viewing the .PDF, the sounds are availalble in the companion .ZIP= file
=A0

Andy
www.g4jnt.= com

this email has been scanned for political correctness by th= e nanny state


2009/11/15 Alberto di Bene &l= t;dibene@usa.net>
Andy Talbot wrote:=20
This presentation was aimed at Microwave operators, but has plenty= of relevance to LF
=A0
http= ://g4jnt.com/MartleSham.htm
Includes=A0soundclips of= CW buried in noise=A0with accurately defined S/N ratios

Andy
Very nice presentation Andy,
=
=A0 there were any grumpy and disgruntled OMs in the audience objectin= g to your dismissal
of CW=A0 as an effective weak-signal mode ?=A0=A0= =A0=A0 :-)

73=A0 Alberto=A0 I2PHD

P.S. All the audio link in your presenta= tion are broken as they all refer to WAV files on you C:
disk, which of= course is not accessible when playing the presentation.




--001485f855e627af1904786d8253-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc08.mx.aol.com (rly-mc08.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.92]) by air-mc08.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMC082-d8a4b0bb6bf29c; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 05:34:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC082-d8a4b0bb6bf29c; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 05:34:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCsiL-0004bi-QN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:33:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCsiL-0004bZ-Df for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:33:41 +0000 Received: from smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com ([195.200.78.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCsiK-0000NR-Ov for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:33:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 6742 invoked by uid 507); 24 Nov 2009 11:33:23 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO JR) (john.rabson@numeo.fr@217.67.155.178) by smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com with SMTP; 24 Nov 2009 11:33:23 +0100 Message-ID: <200911241133250693.29432C8B@smtp2.numeo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:33:25 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Soft rock and email problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Many thanks to those who replied to my request for assistance with the SMD= kit. M0FMT has kindly offered to help. Mal: thank you for offering a kit suitable for conversion to 500 kHz, but= my main interest is 136. Even though I am in the heart of rural Burgundy= , I seem to be plagued by a high noise level at the bottom end of medium= wave. I wish I hadn't given away my B41. My e-mail system has been giving problems over the past week or so. Has= anyone posted anything here, or sent me anything direct which needs a rep= ly from me, please? 73 John F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME062-9a94b0837392c4; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:54:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME035-9a94b0837392c4; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:53:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBv4i-0008EA-Q4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:52:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBv4i-0008E1-BB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:52:48 +0000 Received: from out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.242]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBv4h-0001JQ-Pw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:52:48 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuIEAGPFB0tcGmCC/2dsb2JhbACCJCyGS4RtBsVxhDwE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,264,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="255324090" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.26.96.130]) by out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 21 Nov 2009 18:52:42 +0000 Message-ID: <007c01ca6adb$cd7ace40$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:52:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: qsy LF Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0079_01CA6ADB.CD35AEF0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0079_01CA6ADB.CD35AEF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I notice a drift back to LF/137 by some 500 ops and in fact back to 16= 0m also g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0079_01CA6ADB.CD35AEF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I notice a drift back to LF/137 by so= me 500 ops and=20 in fact back to 160m also
g3kev
 
------=_NextPart_000_0079_01CA6ADB.CD35AEF0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md08.mx.aol.com (rly-md08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.146]) by air-md02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD023-91d4afad8d113a; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:32:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD085-91d4afad8d113a; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:31:31 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8F9e-0002vL-1H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:30:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8F9d-0002vC-7s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:30:41 +0000 Received: from smtp825.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.235]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8F8u-0006cl-QO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:29:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 70302 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2009 15:30:33 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=34efLcgDRs1wuRZE0iiR/18n4L3fgEGoU5Tpj9P5nRAfe0+Ogpq0cvkleCP60qLVapjzTVe0saFvqhaRlRWR21HJIGCPMuL13GaMMWPfXagki7bErFePvA2ACmqm8TmcTYFDPEL6CJi2EFDeJPQLOG9KAM4JicGO+uR2E/qtUtA= ; Received: from unknown (HELO DennisPC) (dennis.easterling@86.142.159.245 with login) by smtp825.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Nov 2009 15:30:32 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: H_MJu2qswBDkdHeCAZfwexko6VNOiMP5URzYEvz3WrE5v1grQm6fnvJecjM9 X-YMail-OSG: 4qorhkQVM1nAJSvKNOZrw5DXX.qw1O_D19FFstg4XxGVXQl7ToKmXCWi1TMCAlwoq1X2R4NtTo2APP.oXMDBRXdvPEEn85OBdEC6RbWErMhGVFk7G9E9rNQJzMJnVxHz9G6ExVG.u4asjYxYqNfbINr7sejlliFz8DSx8DCwPd.Ex8IG21v3n1mDLRkHPLqHuQDfh8te1yDntothy9KMdos1IZA9mwfF66TDayPTVFOwLfuqNvWPzuwGqpeE.cIicRrD5vgsb0edhheZ2mkrGRcJJT_zr11XKPg- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "DENNIS EASTERLING" To: References: <112811.74996.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001b01ca6225$fcddd970$0617aac0@jimdesk> <003801ca6235$3f117d60$0617aac0@jimdesk> In-Reply-To: <003801ca6235$3f117d60$0617aac0@jimdesk> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:30:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01CA62E3.E5D83310" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING, LINES_OF_YELLING_2,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01CA62E3.E5D83310 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jim Chris' suggestion is a good one, sorry that I picked on you, only beca= use you'r the nearest. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: James Cowburn=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 6:40 PM Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Hi Dennis =20 Not offended at all, more alarmed and disappointed that I have been= causing you problems and grief. As the "new boy to the band" I did no= t realize I was operating on top of your frequency. =20 =20 Many apologies to you, Chris (and probably Pete too) for my QRM. If= you can let me know the sorts of times that you want to work the band= then I'll endeavour to keep in Rx only mode or QRT during those times= . Chris did suggest that if I could avoid "WSPRing" on Saturday and= Sunday mornings when a lot of CW QSOs are underway then that would he= lp. If there are any evening segments or weekday slots that I could al= so avoid then do let me know and hopefully we can find a good soluti= on. =20 I certainly don't want to be a "Johnny come lately" and ruin the ban= d for all the other users =20 =20 =20 With best regards =20 =20 Jim =20 =20 Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group= @blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of DENNIS EASTERLING Sent: 10 November 2009 17:22 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO =20 Hi Jim =20 I was speaking figuratively as you are so near and on my xtl frequen= cy. My comment was directed at Chris' statment in email subject1000= QSOs, who also suffers and others who have complained about beacons= in general. In fact the band is often dead for hours on end and it= is nice to find any signal, beacon or QSO, especially when testing.= My point is that is there should be room for both beacons and QSOs,= then follows a suggestion that LFrs may like to come to some agreeme= nt about reserving a section for each mode. =20 Hoping I did not offend, 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: James Cowburn=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 4:51 PM Subject: LF: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO =20 Hi Dennis =20 I did not realize I was causing you QRM. A quick e-mail would hav= e alerted me to it, rather than me being a "pain". I'm happy to work= out a compromise where we operate at separate times or if you suggest= a different frequency for me to work on. Just drop me a line with you= r ideas on this. =20 With best regards =20 =20 Jim =20 =20 Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS ----------------------------------------------------------------------= ------ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_gro= up@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of DENNIS EASTERLING Sent: 10 November 2009 16:13 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO =20 Congratulations Chris. =20 Most wspr stations seem to congregate at the top end of the band= and are not too much trouble. Jim G7NKS is the biggest pain as he= sits on my xtl frequency and is so close. Maybe a compromise would= be for people using beacons to keep to one segment of the band (hopef= ully not 502.2 kHz -hee) =20 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Chris Osborn=20 To: LF Group=20 Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 6:03 PM Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO =20 LF It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using= 600m. This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which wer= e 600m / 80m. Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 an= d EI0CF - No. 998. QSO break-down according to mode: 928 CW, 34 RTTY and 5= QRSS 600m STATIONS My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations= and many of these go back to the start of the UK 600m allocation in= March 2007. Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (exclu= ding beacons). Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never hea= rd of again: G3KZU, G3YHV . . . Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT: G3= UNT, G3VTT, G4GDR. . . MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work th= e same stations many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of= my total contacts. My most frequently worked stations are: GW3UEP - 120 G3KEV - 102 M0FMT - 90 G3ZWH - 80 = (alas now SK) G3DXZ - 67 G4GDR - 60 EI0CF/ GI4DPE - 51 M0J= XM - 48 G3UNT - 45 G3VTT - 38 CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy= a cross-band QSO: DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . . and our few EU MF friends are still active: ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . . WSPR ON 600m I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm fo= r the WSPR mode was never achieved for hand sent Morse (CW), which af= ter all is the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF= marine band. If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger sta= tions operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m ban= d then I guess it may be time for me to QSY. 73 Chris G3XIZ =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01CA62E3.E5D83310 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Jim
Chris' suggestion is a good one, sorr= y that I=20 picked on you, only because you'r the nearest.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 10,= 2009 6:40=20 PM
Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: Re:= G3XIZ - 1000=20 th MF QSO

Hi=20 Dennis

&= nbsp;

Not of= fended at all,=20 more alarmed and disappointed that I have been causing you problems= and grief.=20 As the =93new boy to the band=94 I did not realize I was operating= on top of your=20 frequency.  

&= nbsp;

Many= apologies to=20 you, Chris (and probably Pete too) for my QRM.  If you can let= me know=20 the sorts of times that you want to work the band then I=92ll endeav= our to keep=20 in Rx only mode or QRT during those times.   Chris did sug= gest that=20 if I could avoid =93WSPRing=94 on Saturday and Sunday mornings when= a lot of CW=20 QSOs are underway then that would help. If there are any evening seg= ments or=20 weekday slots that I could also avoid then do  let me know and= =20  hopefully we can find a good solution.

&= nbsp;

I cert= ainly don=92t=20 want to be a =93Johnny come lately=94 and ruin the band for all the= other=20 users

&= nbsp;

&= nbsp;

&= nbsp;

With= best=20 regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

Dr. Ja= mes Cowburn=20 G7NKS 

<= FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>

From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshe= ep.org] On= Behalf Of DENNIS=20 EASTERLING
Sent:= 10 November=20 2009 17:22
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject:<= /B> LF: Re: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th=20 MF QSO

 

Hi=20 Jim

 

I was speaking figuratively as yo= u=20 are so near and on my xtl frequency.   My comment&nbs= p;was=20 directed at Chris' statment in email subject1000 QSOs, who also= suffers=20 and others who have complained about beacons in general.  = In fact=20 the band is often dead for hours on end and it is nice to find any= signal,=20 beacon or QSO, especially when testing.  My point is that  = ;is there=20 should be room for both beacons and QSOs,  then= follows a=20 suggestion that LFrs may like to come to some agreement ab= out=20 reserving a section for each mode.

 

Hoping I did not offend, 73 Denni= s=20 M0JXM

----- Original Message -----= =20

Sent:=20 Tuesday, November 10, 2009 4:51 PM

Subject= : LF: RE:=20 Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO

 

Hi= =20 Dennis

 

I= did not realize I=20 was causing you QRM.  A quick e-mail would have alerted me to= it,=20 rather than me being a =93pain=94.   I=92m happy to work= out a=20 compromise where we operate at separate times or if you suggest a= different=20 frequency for me to work on. Just drop me a line with your ideas= on=20 this.

 

Wit= h best=20 regards

 

 

Jim=

 

 

Dr.= James Cowburn=20 G7NKS

Fro= m:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o= rg=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org] Sent: 10=20 November 2009 16:13
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF=20 QSO

 

Congratulations=20 Chris.

 

Most wspr stations seem to=20 congregate at the top end of the band and are not too much=20 trouble.    Jim G7NKS is the biggest pain as he sit= s on my=20 xtl frequency and is so close.   Maybe a compromise woul= d be for=20 people using beacons to keep to one segment of the band (hopefully= not 502.2=20 kHz -hee)

 

73 Dennis=20 M0JXM

----- Original Message= -----=20

From: Chris Osborn=20

T= o: = LF Group=20

S= ent:=20 Sunday, November 08, 2009 6:03 PM

S= ubject: LF:=20 G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO

 

L= F

It=20 was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600= m.
This=20 includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 600= m /=20 80m.

Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU= - No. 999=20 and EI0CF - No. 998.

QSO break-down according to mode:=20     928 CW,  34 RTTY  and  = 5=20 QRSS

600m STATIONS

My personal 600m (EU) sp= readsheet=20 lists a total of 59<= /B> stations=20 and many of these go back to the start of the UK  600m allo= cation in=20 March 2007.
Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the pa= st month=20 (excluding beacons).
Many stations on my list came up only br= iefly and=20 were never heard of again:  G3KZU, G3YHV . . .
Others we= re once=20 very active but have subsequently gone QRT:  G3UNT, G3VTT,= G4GDR. .=20 .

MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED

With so few active= operators=20 it is obvious that one will work the same stations many times an= d the top=20 10 stations account for 70% of my total contacts.
My most fre= quently=20 worked stations are:

GW3UEP - 120    = G3KEV -=20 102      M0FMT - 90   &n= bsp;=20 G3ZWH  -  80  (alas now SK)
G3DXZ  &= nbsp;=20 -   67     G4GDR -  =20 60      EI0CF/ GI4DPE  - =20 51   M0JXM - 48
G3UNT    - &nbs= p;=20 45     G3VTT  -  =20 38

CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS

There are a= few=20 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a cross-band=20 QSO:
DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . .

= and our=20 few EU MF friends are still active:
ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ.= .=20 .

WSPR ON 600m

I personally find it sad tha= t the=20 present level of enthusiasm for the WSPR mode was never achieved= for =20 hand sent Morse (CW), which after all is the mode which I call= to mind=20 when thinking of the old MF marine band.
If the WSPR 'enthusi= asm' phase=20 lasts, with more and stronger stations operating 24/7 in the nar= row 3 kHz=20 segment which is the 600m band then I guess it may be time for= me to=20 QSY.

73 Chris=20 G3XIZ





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------=_NextPart_000_0011_01CA62E3.E5D83310-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de11.mx.aol.com (rly-de11.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.147]) by air-de03.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDE032-5164b1198aa125; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:40:06 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE117-5164b1198aa125; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:39:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEV04-0005Ur-1U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:38:40 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEV03-0005Ui-BP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:38:39 +0000 Received: from imr-ma02.mx.aol.com ([64.12.206.40]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEV02-0001Ra-8X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:38:39 +0000 Received: from imo-da02.mx.aol.com (imo-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.200]) by imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nASLcVfd023691 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:38:31 -0500 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-da02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id l.c86.61b1b6c3 (43906) for ; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:38:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from White (e179167105.adsl.alicedsl.de [85.179.167.105]) by cia-dc07.mx.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILCIADC073-ab824b119851232; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:38:26 -0500 Message-ID: <42720A798A384ADDA93A8954B4299F9B@White> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AA67@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 22:38:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: MarkusVester@aol.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0019_01CA707B.819BF350" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01CA707B.819BF350 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good evening Stefan, you are producing an excellent signal here in Nuernberg! The fieldstre= ngth was up to about 120 uV/m, with some variation (probably caused by= kite movement). Have fun, and best of luck Markus, DF6NM in JN59NK=20 From: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20 Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 11:36 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz Dear Lowfers,=20 This is my first mail to the reflector and so i want to say hello to= all :-) It=B4s nice to be able to participate now here although my ac= tivity will stay on the band mostly ;-) If there will be no weather problems this evening I will agn be qrv on= 137 in CW (abt 136,8) and/or QRSS3.=20 Since abt 3 weeks I am qrv again. Since I live in a city I have no pos= sibilities to be on LF, even not in RXing (QRM)... Therefore and cause= I like to be in the nature I am now qrv in /p. I use a kite antenna,= 100m up (!). This should have a radiation resistance of 0,83 Ohms. My= overall resistance is abt 30...55 Ohms, depending on the ground a ach= ieve. So you can imagine abt the ERP. I have a 1KW class E PA that I= use with limited power. But The ERP easily reaches the 1W ERP limit,= as one can imagine.. My RX is still poor but I am working on a receiving loop. Now, I use= the TX ant for receiving that causes some problems ;-) It would be nice to get some QSOs or even RX-RPRTs tonight. Until now= I got 2 QSOs in each activity ;-) Best regards,=20 Stefan / DK7FC ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01CA707B.819BF350 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Good evening Stefan,
 
you are producing an excellent= signal=20 here in Nuernberg! The fieldstrength was up to about 120 uV/m, wi= th some=20 variation (probably caused by kite movement).
 
Have fun, and best of luck
 
Markus,
DF6NM in JN59NK 
 
 
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 11:36 AM
Subject: LF: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz
=
Dear Lowfers,=20
This is my first mail to the reflector and so i want to say hello= to all :-)=20 It=B4s nice to be able to participate now here although my activity wi= ll stay on=20 the band mostly ;-)
If there will be no weather problems this eveni= ng I will=20 agn be qrv on 137 in CW (abt 136,8) and/or QRSS3.
Since abt 3 week= s I am qrv=20 again. Since I live in a city I have no possibilities to be on LF, eve= n not in=20 RXing (QRM)... Therefore and cause I like to be in the nature I am now= qrv in=20 /p. I use a kite antenna, 100m up (!). This should have a radiation re= sistance=20 of 0,83 Ohms. My overall resistance is abt 30...55 Ohms, depending on= the ground=20 a achieve. So you can imagine abt the ERP. I have a 1KW class E PA tha= t I use=20 with limited power. But The ERP easily reaches the 1W ERP limit, as on= e can=20 imagine..
My RX is still poor but I am working on a receiving loop.= Now, I=20 use the TX ant for receiving that causes some problems ;-)
It would= be nice=20 to get some QSOs or even RX-RPRTs tonight. Until now I got 2 QSOs in= each=20 activity ;-)
Best regards,
Stefan / DK7FC

------=_NextPart_000_0019_01CA707B.819BF350-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de06.mx.aol.com (rly-de06.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.142]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE022-4e54af89d989d; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:54:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE068-4e54af89d989d; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:54:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7d6r-00055h-DQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:53:17 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7d6q-00055Y-PR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:53:16 +0000 Received: from smtp823.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.233]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7d6n-0006SN-GL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:53:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 90075 invoked from network); 9 Nov 2009 22:53:07 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=y0vGXX5zgxLTGpm/lluH+8erqaSUdZGRe5aZKYoSHd2YNcjBsNXQS5vqDWM1ezlTpp7X7GmHInozdlsvcVb+z+K8Ik1Ec82rcWr2BcOlIJIjtTuNkZL9j8a3r97L8CLu67zW9pfuVicb4m8GRl9YlmJu/CafVZVZxpXdw6ZKI8s= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@81.131.65.34 with login) by smtp823.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Nov 2009 22:53:06 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: KHdpK2OswBBXlm4uxknbEiS4uYdJoGknHN90u4K8__lTafnafZg- X-YMail-OSG: yRA2VEUVM1mP1Y.RH8OEy5BkZ_hUvjEQEfQXWTXSjQ5L2ZYo1f6SeiLeWxvPYXXx5j4XKu0zmjJz4d6DgzKySi_29YDtNa6RhkQEtHIjPPuqG7FcDSQuT0GWXxxjhguPlA6afPZbOMLLkaX08CzJPSOkayQi0KQLr3SdZxP9UNdMSSepIehl2oNttLzY3Lw_3kaJHAO9pDIH8yUMIyrX.Pz.RwxNLb7i1vbyYCmYWJEixUMERp_VRZvUK_kUK0BhKG9YYKx6ae_eJccaSqjhpeF1FSdy6FFvruPRWWta5RapAiVXBVXXWPZNIXp8EEp.RzAKPDrLr4OfEvwee7aHHqpUUic- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <000601ca618f$6917b760$0900a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <200911091000250405.1609D0BF@smtp2.numeo.fr> <000001ca6186$436317c0$0900a8c0@lark> <57a24ca70911091401t3e1cdfdcxa72724a21abf1cd5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:37:37 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Fwd: The death of Loran -again? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Ah Thanks Warren That will set the mobile phone networks busy implementing location system as a backup I guess....that wont need federal funds.......and they can charge for it ....wait a minute whilst I bolster my share holdings in a few phone companies :-)) then how do we disable the ground station.. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Ziegler" To: Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 10:01 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Fwd: The death of Loran -again? > Alan, > > See: > http://www.gpsworld.com/gnss-system/news/administration-ax-falls-pnt-backup- loran-c-9087 > > and > http://pnt.gov/policy/legislation/bills.shtml#loran > > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ > WD2XSH/23 > WE2XEB/2 > WE2XGR/1 > > > > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Alan Melia wrote: > > Hi John, that URL you copied from Rob doesnt work for me. There is othing on > > the Megapulse site of the USCG sire about it closing, the budget is not cut > > it is reduced and I guess USCG have to decide how best to spend it. I dont > > expect it to affect the French who being,.... well, French ?..... will > > continue to go their own way!! > > > > Do you have 1pps GPS capability?? eke "Clicklock" as there is an interesting > > project that may come up. Only resures a sound card and an AM receiver and a > > GPS 1pps > > > > Best Wishes to you and Rosie > > Alan G3NYK > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John RABSON" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 9:00 AM > > Subject: LF: Fwd: The death of Loran -again? > > > > > >> > >> Received from Rob Gill : > >> > >> > > >> >Possibly more likely this time? > >> > > >> >Questex link: > >> >http://www.gpsworld.com/node/9087Loran > >> > > >> >Rob > >> > >> F5VLF > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (rly-dd08.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.155]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD013-b904b092a782c7; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:11:44 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD082-b904b092a782c7; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:11:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCBGo-0002S5-Q4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:10:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCBGo-0002Rw-4E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:10:22 +0000 Received: from smtp820.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.249]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCBGl-0003qU-UY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:10:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 74572 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2009 12:10:14 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Importance:In-Reply-To; b=mnzZ5CYUiG80ODhVDPhOfubl9Ho5whdj+SiuXuOUmEGQuOL8dfPdocEKz7pR4qpI1fk1fbP2AUPvqJTubS7ni/PB0aGgj0Dm1/2xZ4K14pzJ8OtIyRwiTj7g2Ec1DBPnzvks+Jtn81D8I/Q9Pjmwe/ChKOdl2xMdy7sVZlI3PJM= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@86.134.202.83 with login) by smtp820.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Nov 2009 12:10:14 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: JSvqNSWswBBXc9Mk_Vd71RtGz2bViJtuZMADdmi78eLqBj_R7.fL X-YMail-OSG: u2G_O6MVM1kq9d6LegKCnXGE35ITJnoeBZ0SWLCvJ_4bJc..gzl_.tL5GTRsgKVOv5ZJBtERDCDOHze3cS7Q9Kwb199OIOrw6ImL0s0PfL40DFI2IjJ1K4EyP_u0y29rxdwX9F3.oxWGjDjJwqs.mnaZ7JdiOZQLTACWytCL6ZpSA5A_y_Svo3yXUcOyKQ_io.rvkOSq8APEiTZ6kXbUaA0bDXtgifaMtyRm2nQ2jrntikfoXgWEDloQWPUmuVCsnFhHaY1PumR8bkLvKORswBlJTfsVOkJhdsCMaNVkgwCzZegfdtW2amzWwcyQ8ySmNF49xiFWilSwTlrFiFXd2J9tSo0pIcxROrU8sVc4zqC1rKnuL9lfxvYkeQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:10:45 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: [500 khz] M0JXM & G3XIZ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01CA6B6C.D1FD9F60" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_40_50, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01CA6B6C.D1FD9F60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Dennis and Chris. I checked your relative signal strengths during your QSO on 500 kHz this morning, using the Wandel & Golterman SPM-30. M0JXM was averaging -74 dBm, and G3XIZ was averaging -62 dBm, i.e. 12 dB stronger. If you know how much RF power you were each using, you can deduce your relative antenna efficiencies. Hope this is useful. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: 21 November 2009 11:38 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500 khz] M0JXM... Hi, Dennis. Your signals are RST 579 here this morning. I can also hear G3DXZ at 349/QSB, but he's sending too fast for reliable copy at this end. My antenna is a 20m long double wire "tee" at 5m, and the RX is a W&G SPM-30 with a tuned J310 pre-amp. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, s.e. England -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of DENNIS EASTERLING Sent: 18 November 2009 17:16 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Lost QSO Hello Mal Sorry if I left you in the lurch 16.5 today, after giving you a report 599 something happened and a single frequency signal came up on top of you and slowly drifted down frequency, perhaps someone tuning? Better luck next time. 73 Dennis M0JXM ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01CA6B6C.D1FD9F60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,=20 Dennis and Chris.
 
I=20 checked your relative signal strengths during your QSO on 500 kHz this= morning,=20 using the Wandel & Golterman SPM-30. M0JXM was averaging -74 dBm,= and G3XIZ=20 was averaging -62 dBm, i.e. 12 dB stronger. If you know how much RF po= wer you=20 were each using, you can deduce your relative antenna=20 efficiencies.
 
Hope=20 this is useful.
 
73,=20 Dave G3WCB IO91RM
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dave= =20 G3WCB
Sent: 21 November 2009 11:38
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500 khz]=20 M0JXM...

Hi,=20 Dennis.
 
Your=20 signals are RST 579 here this morning. I can also hear G3DXZ at 349/= QSB, but=20 he's sending too fast for reliable copy at this end.=20
 
My antenna is a 20m long= =20 double wire "tee" at 5m, and the RX is a W&G SPM-30 with a tuned= J310=20 pre-amp. <= SPAN class=3D014572811-21112009>73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor,= s.e.=20 England
-----Original Message-----
From:= =20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of DEN= NIS=20 EASTERLING
Sent: 18 November 2009 17:16
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Lost=20 QSO

Hello Mal
 
Sorry if I left you in the lurch&= nbsp; 16.5=20 today, after giving you a report 599 something happened and a sing= le=20 frequency signal came up on top of you and slowly drifted dow= n=20 frequency, perhaps someone tuning?
 
Better luck next time.
 
73 Dennis=20 M0JXM
------=_NextPart_000_0000_01CA6B6C.D1FD9F60-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (rly-dc10.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.39]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC031-b4a4b0483b1208; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:31:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC106-b4a4b0483b1208; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:30:59 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAtyL-0005fs-Gl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:30:01 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAtyK-0005fe-TB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:30:00 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s37.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.48]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAtyI-00060N-Hu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:30:00 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W8 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s37.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:29:52 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [138.32.254.21] From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China To: Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:29:52 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <005001ca688a$9e8c97b0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> References: <005001ca688a$9e8c97b0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Nov 2009 23:29:52.0557 (UTC) FILETIME=[0758D5D0:01CA68A7] X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_007c5c93-4d44-4e03-b58c-b0339c14b565_" Subject: RE: LF: VX9MRC X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_007c5c93-4d44-4e03-b58c-b0339c14b565_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mal - taking a look at Eu and Americas pointers as viewed from China, I wa= snt overly impressed by long haul overnight (thats still your night) . Cer= tainly down from the previous nights I was listening to - nothing from you= on 508... =20 Cheers =20 Laurence Bohai Bay China OM89UA =20 From: g3kevmal@talktalk.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:06:30 +0000 Subject: LF: VX9MRC Now active on 508 khz qrs3 good signal for those in EU who want a QSO. De Mal/G3KEV =20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=3Dmyidea?ocid=3D= PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:112009=3D --_007c5c93-4d44-4e03-b58c-b0339c14b565_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mal - taking a look at Eu and Americas pointers as viewed from China, I wa= snt overly impressed by long haul overnight (thats still your night) . Cer= tainly down from the previous nights I was listening to - nothin= g from you on 508...
 
Cheers
 
Laurence
Bohai Bay China OM89UA
 
From: g3kevmal@talktalk.net
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date:= Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:06:30 +0000
Subject: LF: VX9MRC

Now active on 508 khz qrs3 good signal fo= r those in EU who want a QSO.
De Mal/G3KEV
 

Windows 7: I wanted simp= ler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. =3D --_007c5c93-4d44-4e03-b58c-b0339c14b565_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg11.mx.aol.com (rly-dg11.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.95]) by air-dg01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG012-6014aee263e15; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:22:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG112-6014aee263e15; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:22:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N4kfW-0003Mz-Jy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 00:21:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N4kfV-0003Mq-Hb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 00:21:09 +0000 Received: from mailout1.go2.pl ([193.17.41.11]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N4kdx-0003vm-Ma for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 00:19:35 +0000 Received: from mailout1.go2.pl (unknown [10.0.0.104]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFCD830005 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 01:21:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from unknown (unknown [10.0.0.142]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 01:21:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from n62.pro-internet.pl [193.189.116.62] by poczta.o2.pl with ESMTP id XldMxM; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 01:21:02 +0100 Message-ID: <007901ca5b52$5bbbca40$be52e00a@niurhaxf0xcqlj> From: "Marcin" To: References: <276313556.1257112269.46863176.15766@mcgi72.rambler.ru> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 01:16:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-O2-Trust: 2, 61 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: SM6BGP Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0076_01CA5B5A.10192CB0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01CA5B5A.10192CB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Gunnar, LF! SM6BGP copy taday normal CW 549. And good conditions on WSPR: 2254 -5 0.3 0.503926 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 2258 -8 0.6 0.503926 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 2258 -28 0.6 0.503960 0 M0BMU IO91 33 2302 -2 0.5 0.503926 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 2304 -23 0.5 0.503960 0 M0BMU IO91 33 2308 -2 0.3 0.503926 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 2312 -22 0.4 0.503960 0 M0BMU IO91 33 2314 -5 0.3 0.503926 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 2316 -21 0.6 0.503960 0 M0BMU IO91 33 2320 0 0.3 0.503926 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 2326 -3 0.3 0.503926 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 2330 3 0.3 0.503926 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 2330 -23 0.4 0.503960 0 M0BMU IO91 33 2336 2 0.3 0.503926 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 2336 -25 0.4 0.503960 0 M0BMU IO91 33 2342 2 0.3 0.503926 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 2344 -19 0.2 0.503960 0 M0BMU IO91 33 2348 -7 0.3 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 2352 -23 0.3 0.503960 0 M0BMU IO91 33 2356 0 0.3 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 2356 -23 0.5 0.503960 0 M0BMU IO91 33 0000 -19 0.7 0.503960 0 M0BMU IO91 33 -- Vy 73! 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X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: UA0AET Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi LF! UA0AET on DF6NM and BY3A-KL1X grabbers 137778.6 dfcw120 Dmitry RA3YO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de02.mx.aol.com (rly-de02.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.138]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE054-4b84af608ef202; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:55:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE023-4b84af608ef202; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:55:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6v6f-0001iA-KT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:54:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6v6f-0001i1-5H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:54:09 +0000 Received: from fwx.uvtc.net ([195.22.25.2] helo=uvtcmail.se) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6v5d-0007LM-Dm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:53:06 +0000 thread-index: AcpgBZQaUPmvfqS/Q/qE2gPVc8FjEw== X-MEFilter-Version: 6.5.0 X-SPAM-FLAG:NO Received: from ([127.0.0.1]) with MailEnable ESMTP; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 23:53:59 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Gus" To: References: <2F1AB4DFB90B402ABA068A546B4AEDDE@radiorummet> <9afca2640911070817h546534e4q7a3a8be61d767981@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9afca2640911070817h546534e4q7a3a8be61d767981@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 00:53:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4325 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Importance: normal X-ME-Bayesian: 0.000000 X-CHK: uvtcmail.se X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 10 mW WSPR beacon. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0047_01CA600D.F4299E50" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_FONT_BIG, HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01CA600D.F4299E50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Roger,=20 thanks!=20 I'm trying to get a decode from you at any moment I am QRV on WSPR!=20 Despite my noisy environment, it certainly succeeds some evening / nig= ht!=20 73 de Gus SM6BHZ ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Roger Lapthorn=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 5:17 PM Subject: Re: LF: 10 mW WSPR beacon. Gus, Getting a report from AA1A is amazing - really well done Gus. WSPR= is remarkable with very low power signals.=20 As you may know, I have been using <1mW ERP for several weeks and ha= ve been heard by 27 stations in 5 countries with best DX 896kms. I now= believe my ERP is approaching 2mW. I am hopeful that you will hear= my tiny WSPR signal one night soon - maybe tonight overnight Gus? 73s Roger G3XBM 2009/11/7 Gus Dear LF group,=20 After running beacon WSPR night 6-7 November with only 10 mW ERP= (125 mW) TX power on 500 kHz it gives me great surprise, that a very= long range can be achieved with extremely small power!=20 Dave AA1A got a decoding where the distance between us is 5756 km. Also a number of EU stn=92s reported decodes. On previous occasions, with a power of 1 W ERP is Laurence KL1X/BY= 3A reported a number of decoding where the distance between us is 7284= km.=20 I would also like to thank the other reporting from the night's 10= mW broadcasts, and note that WSPR is a fashion which is particularly= suitable for very low power!=20 73 de Gus SM6BHZ=20 www.sm6bhz.com --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01CA600D.F4299E50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Roger,
thanks!
I'm trying to get a decode from you at any moment I am QRV on WSP= R!=20
Despite my noisy environment, it certainly succeeds some even= ing /=20 night!

73 de Gus SM6BHZ
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 07,= 2009 5:17=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: 10 mW WSPR= beacon.

Gus,

Getting a report from AA1A is amazing -= really well=20 done Gus.  WSPR is remarkable with very low power signals.
=
As you=20 may know, I have been using <1mW ERP for several weeks and have= been heard=20 by 27 stations in 5 countries with best DX 896kms. I now believe my= ERP is=20 approaching 2mW.  I am hopeful that you will hear my tiny WSPR= signal one=20 night soon - maybe tonight overnight Gus?

73s
Roger=20 G3XBM



2009/11/7 Gus <begu@algonet.se>

Dear LF group,= =20

After running= beacon=20 WSPR night 6-7 November with only 10 mW ERP (125 mW) TX power on= 500 kHz it=20 gives me great surprise, that a very long range can be achieved wi= th=20 extremely small power!

Dave AA1A got= a=20 decoding where the distance between us is 5756 km.

Also a number= of EU=20 stn=92s reported decodes.


On previou= s occasions,=20 with a power of 1 W ERP is Laurence KL1X/BY3A reported a number of= decoding=20 where the distance between us is 7284 km.

I wou= ld also like to=20 thank the other reporting from the night's 10 mW broadcasts, and= note that=20 WSPR is a fashion which is particularly suitable for very low powe= r!=20

=

73 de Gus SM6BHZ=20

www.sm6bhz.com

=



--=20
-------------------------------------------------------------http://g3xbm-qrp.blogs= pot.com/
http://www.g3xb= m.co.uk
G3XBM  =20  GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088
------=_NextPart_000_0047_01CA600D.F4299E50-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME041-9bd4b0b07b43d5; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:07:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME061-9bd4b0b07b43d5; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:07:51 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCh3b-0002eB-Cf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:06:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCh3b-0002e2-23 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:06:51 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCh3a-0005en-8s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:06:51 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A6C4C8059 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:06:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B65004C808C for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:06:44 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B0B0774.7000304@online.fr> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:06:44 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <57a24ca70911231159k557ba717lbb0cf31cc7eb6e70@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <57a24ca70911231159k557ba717lbb0cf31cc7eb6e70@mail.gmail.com> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WD2XGJ Off 11/24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Warren, Ok , but for the moment XGJ is very strong here ! Look on the grabber ! 73 qro J-P f1afj Warren Ziegler a =E9crit : > WD2XGJ will be off tonight. > > =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME021-9a54b03f1b6276; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:08:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME031-9a54b03f1b6276; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:08:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAkFa-0002HV-Gv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:07:10 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAkFa-0002HM-3u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:07:10 +0000 Received: from smtp22.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAkFY-00013b-IP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:07:10 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2216.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0F8F6700008C for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:07:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (153.180.192-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.192.180.153]) by msfrf2216.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id B156670000A3 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:07:00 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091118130700726.B156670000A3@msfrf2216.sfr.fr Message-ID: <000801ca6850$0a837460$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: References: <200911181340310286.0AD12771@smtp2.numeo.fr> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:07:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091118-0, 18/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: F8BOJ 40dB over QRM on 137 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Bonjour John LF group Merci pour le bon controle aujourd'hui il n'y a pas de qrm c'est tr=E9s net sur le grabbers de Markus au plaisir d'une rencontre peut =EAtre a CJ en 2010 best 73's for the All and very good day there is 18=B0 centigrade and sun Bye Claude F8boj JN16WA ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "John RABSON" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 1:40 PM Subject: LF: F8BOJ 40dB over QRM on 137 > At 1240z. > > F5VLF > > > > >=20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg08.mx.aol.com (rly-dg08.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.92]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG074-5e74b091ee5280; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:22:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG086-5e74b091ee5280; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:22:14 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCAVI-0001xn-ME for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:21:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCAVI-0001xe-3g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:21:16 +0000 Received: from mailout03.t-online.de ([194.25.134.81]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCAVG-0003bK-Ad for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:21:16 +0000 Received: from fwd07.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.t-online.de with smtp id 1NCAVF-0006Mf-00; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:21:13 +0100 Received: from e7010 (GEpFXoZOwhNy8mlFRIuxdu8J6UCBie6zV-DRJ-KRTt0TdYpJpgkiphYj-oI30SywVQ@[84.147.254.172]) by fwd07.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1NCAV0-1tZVU80; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:20:58 +0100 Message-ID: <00c801ca6b65$de8f1b70$6402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: References: Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:20:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: GEpFXoZOwhNy8mlFRIuxdu8J6UCBie6zV-DRJ-KRTt0TdYpJpgkiphYj-oI30SywVQ X-TOI-MSGID: 405a4856-ed43-49c9-a1ab-c43b2881bdd0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: DI2BJ active Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C5_01CA6B6E.3E3696E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00C5_01CA6B6E.3E3696E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Moin, moin, Oswald, don=B4t worry, WSPR is a fine machine, but not the ce= nter of the world. If we were allowed to make QSO on 505 I would prefe= r regular CW. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Wolf Ostwald=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 8:58 PM Subject: LF: DI2BJ active Hello group ! DI2BJ will be QRV in regular CW on 505.030 for the weekend. Sorry it= s not WSPR. 73 de wolf df2py ------=_NextPart_000_00C5_01CA6B6E.3E3696E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Moin, moin, Oswald,
      = ;          =20 don=B4t worry, WSPR is a fine machine, but not the center of the world= . If we were=20 allowed to make QSO on 505 I would prefer regular CW.
73    Walter  DI2= AG /=20 DJ2LF
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Wolf= Ostwald=20
Sent: Saturday, November 21,= 2009 8:58=20 PM
Subject: LF: DI2BJ active

Hello group=20 !

DI2BJ will be QRV= in regular CW on=20 505.030 for the weekend. Sorry its not WSPR.

73 de wolf &nb= sp;=20 df2py

------=_NextPart_000_00C5_01CA6B6E.3E3696E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG054-9f64aeffd902d; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:54:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG018-9f64aeffd902d; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:53:22 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N5G3u-0005YH-Jg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:52:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N5G3u-0005Y8-7A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:52:26 +0000 Received: from mail-px0-f194.google.com ([209.85.216.194]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N5G2U-0006N2-Hy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:50:59 +0000 Received: by pxi32 with SMTP id 32so3207833pxi.16 for ; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 01:52:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=jDIo2OrOd6tSGLfp1OyiHC5AuTRtx3CS3cddDL7B/VU=; b=j3/SWrB6uZk7IlCYnDdvlJnGKkurFR6BimT2OMSsOiHdcPtEyH7vokIPTboQUUlDJT 4gM+T+JgszRN9OeeSLF3YdY4LLjwQZ8yTwOr00qBPckFpldsLV8LJJupzNqYa45jRkZw 4FQTku81efu4EO83Y/hsu+QTBExBkr4vm1iwc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=k5oV794hRDjOExElKvyADwhKuw3yj86gyaK8/MRpP60uxaGtXu9p+E2swgZx639OZN qTQvf1+LNQfDlfYlsQ8Ww9n+0FCefPALddS3KjET0dq+GUoPVhl0HR4QZT7qVQxNhVQa 3M1HRftpu0cuwX5nSgEL2wXrxEEPuCOo2nn+8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.136.19 with SMTP id j19mr376650rvd.187.1257241937654; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 01:52:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <993BF7557D4B4C5F8251F19CEB166E93@IBM7FFA209F07C> References: <993BF7557D4B4C5F8251F19CEB166E93@IBM7FFA209F07C> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 09:52:17 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c8dd8cc372e5e3b4 Message-ID: <1f0624b90911030152v3a19f758sda7ba31c0ae0db3c@mail.gmail.com> From: Gary - G4WGT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Hell Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd2531a1733d30477747346 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d310.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0cd2531a1733d30477747346 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Chris, The HELL mode is available in FLdigi & Spectrum Lab. 73 Gary - G4WGT. 2009/11/3 Chris > Hi All, > Does anybody know if the Hell software is still available and, if so, where > from, please? > Thank you and 73, > Chris, G4AYT. > --000e0cd2531a1733d30477747346 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Chris,

The HELL mode is available in FLdigi & Sp= ectrum Lab.

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--000e0cd2531a1733d30477747346-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD091-b594afaed0bf7; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:57:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD013-b594afaed0bf7; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:57:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8GUs-0003TL-IM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:56:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8GUs-0003TC-73 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:56:42 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s22.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.33]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8GUA-0007D3-EO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:55:59 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W11 ([65.55.116.7]) by blu0-omc1-s22.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:56:33 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [216.152.181.103] From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China To: Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:56:33 -0900 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Nov 2009 16:56:33.0087 (UTC) FILETIME=[EC133CF0:01CA62EF] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_d16e2bb6-08b1-479d-9efc-0d9e011f3b51_" Subject: LF: Sm6BHZ into KL7 just a couple of mins ago... X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_d16e2bb6-08b1-479d-9efc-0d9e011f3b51_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 091111 1644 2 -29 -0.4 0.503925 SM6BHZ JO57 40 0 5938 0 =20 Delighted over a pretty rough path at times and higher than normal QRN. =20 Thanks for the early start Gus =20 Laurence WE2XpQ KL 1 x bp51ip Wasilla Palmer Alaska K9AY 2 loops Omni R75 =20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ --_d16e2bb6-08b1-479d-9efc-0d9e011f3b51_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 091111 1644   2 -29 -0.4   0.503925  SM6BHZ JO57= 40          0  5938&nbs= p;   0
 
Delighted over a pretty rough path at times and higher than normal QRN.  
Thanks for the early start Gus
 
Laurence WE2XpQ  KL 1 x
bp51ip Wasilla Palmer Alaska
K9AY 2 loops Omni R75
 

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Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0039_01CA6584.FF4B8BF0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01CA6584.FF4B8BF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Peter, Your QRSS3-signal is good readable in JN59LN! vy 73 de Gerhard // DK6NI ================================= ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01CA6584.FF4B8BF0 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="G3LDO_QRSS3.jpg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="G3LDO_QRSS3.jpg" 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for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:26:29 +0000 Received: from mailout05.t-online.de ([194.25.134.82]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDJlB-0003pN-Ri for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:26:29 +0000 Received: from fwd09.aul.t-online.de by mailout05.t-online.de with smtp id 1NDJj2-0007Hu-03; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:24:12 +0100 Received: from df2py (XHKbO0Z6ohR9IGZkzAs5ZMdRlCtceZ-NozBjg2nN9WvlQVjOVyEAdh8US5Y0hVYwBk@[80.187.109.101]) by fwd09.t-online.de with esmtp id 1NDJit-1YhzQO0; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:24:03 +0100 From: "Wolf Ostwald" To: References: Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:25:39 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcpttRycc7MT6VpBRQOTEglJj2WnhQAKNOEg X-ID: XHKbO0Z6ohR9IGZkzAs5ZMdRlCtceZ-NozBjg2nN9WvlQVjOVyEAdh8US5Y0hVYwBk X-TOI-MSGID: c89e806d-5c12-4ba2-a136-ad8da1c306ff X-Spam-Score: 2.6 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.332,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.236,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: instability on MosFet amps Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0036_01CA6DEB.F41F13E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01CA6DEB.F41F13E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello group ! I found that almost all amp configurations generate harmonics. In case of a homebrewed HF amp, with a push -pull design, I had to build hi-pass filters with a resistive termination, so called split filters, for each band. Without dissipating the harmonic energy the stage will have to cope with excess voltages and thus bury the MosFets . My last amp stage for the DI2BJ-beacon is followed by a hi-pass that opens at 750 kcs . This way the first harmonic and all the higher ones go into thermal dissipation. A T-type adjustable low-pass is used to match and reduce harmonics further. Have fun de wolf df2py ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01CA6DEB.F41F13E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hel= lo group !

I= found that almost all amp configurations generate harmonics. In case of a homebrewed HF amp,= with a push –pull design, I had to build hi-pass filters with a resistive te= rmination, so called split filters, for each band. Without dissipating the harmon= ic energy the stage will have to cope with excess voltages and thus bury the Mos= Fets .

My= last amp stage for the DI2BJ-beacon is followed by a hi-pass that opens at 750 kcs . This way= the first harmonic and all the higher ones go into thermal dissipation.

A= T-type adjustable low-pass is used to match and reduce harmonics further.

Hav= e fun           &nbs= p;         de wolf  df2py

------=_NextPart_000_0036_01CA6DEB.F41F13E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb05.mx.aol.com (rly-mb05.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.163]) by air-mb01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB013-d094b081cf7244; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:02:06 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB055-d094b081cf7244; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:01:45 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBtJx-00074x-O3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:00:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBtJx-00074o-5K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:00:25 +0000 Received: from smtp6.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.191]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBtJw-0000nO-46 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:00:25 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3607.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 21D3D7000084 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:00:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3607.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 156D27000086 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:00:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.50.96]) by mwinf3607.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id BDE037000084 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:00:15 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091121170015777.BDE037000084@mwinf3607.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <853E005332DF4B8BA645D243EAD38220@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <785212.33618.qm@web28105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <785212.33618.qm@web28105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:00:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: Re: LF: WSPR BEACONS Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_014B_01CA6ACC.12902670" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_014B_01CA6ACC.12902670 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't think 'one' Norwegian that I know of would agree with you , he is very keen on data modes and sent in many qsl's in the early = days=20 pity still can only work cross band ..=20 G ..=20 From: M0FMT=20 Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 10:54 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: WSPR BEACONS I am with Mal. WSPR has no place on the UK 501 / 504 Kc/s Amate= ur Communication Band. The Norwegian Licence has got it right - CW onl= y! 73 petefmt=20 --- On Sat, 21/11/09, Andy - KU4XR wrote: From: Andy - KU4XR Subject: Re: LF: WSPR BEACONS To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Saturday, 21 November, 2009, 0:01 --- On Fri, 11/20/09, mal hamilton wrote: ****** snippet ****** > a cw QSO operator in real time can qsy to take evasive=20 > action and avoid qrm to others on adjacent frequencies. > G3KEV ***** end snippet ****** By Jove !! is it possible that he finally " GOT IT " ??? heavens to wonders !! Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN. LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 185.29866 KHz ( QRSS-60 ) Coordinates: N: 35* 43' 54" - W: 84* 3' 16" http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr --- On Fri, 11/20/09, mal hamilton wro= te: > From: mal hamilton > Subject: LF: WSPR BEACONS > To: "rsgb" > Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 2:58 PM >=20 >=20 > =20 > =20 >=20 >=20 > =20 > These unattended Beacons > are often a source of QRM=20 > for the CW QSO operator, whereas a cw QSO operator in > real time can qsy to=20 > take evasive action and avoid qrm to others on adjacent=20 > frequencies. > G3KEV > =20 >=20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_014B_01CA6ACC.12902670 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I don't think 'one' Norwegian that I= know of=20 would  agree with you  ,
 he is very keen on data modes= and sent in=20 many qsl's in the  early  days
pity still can only  work = cross =20 band ..
 
G ..

From: M0FMT
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: LF: WSPR BEACONS




------=_NextPart_000_014B_01CA6ACC.12902670-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD042-9134b088f2d5d; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:09:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD073-9134b088f2d5d; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:09:03 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NC0vq-0005ZT-U2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:08:02 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NC0vq-0005ZK-IW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:08:02 +0000 Received: from mailout1.go2.pl ([193.17.41.11]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NC0vp-0003WI-Vb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:08:02 +0000 Received: from mailout1.go2.pl (unknown [10.0.0.104]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9865430003 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:08:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from o2.pl (unknown [10.0.0.38]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:08:00 +0100 (CET) From: bxi@go2.pl To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <5a3cda4e.7f3315ab.4b088eef.46ee6@go2.pl Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:07:59 +0100 X-Originator: 89.76.56.60 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 2.3 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,INVALID_MSGID=1.71,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,SUBJECT_EXCESS_QP=0,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_LF:_SP2KDS_137kHz?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.3 required=5.0 tests=INVALID_MSGID,NO_REAL_NAME, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Nicolas, Andrey, Dave, Ed, LF TNX raport Nicolas, Andrey. Very thank QSO Ed RU6LA and Dave G3YXM. Nov calling CQ 137,700kHz QRSS 10. 73! MArcin SQ2BXI >=20 > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Hello Marcin and Andrey,good copy here in QRSS3. > =20 >=20 > F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP >=20 > RX : Icom IC7400 > Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Dans un e-mail dat=C3=A9 du 22/11/2009 00:16:35 Paris, Madrid, rn3agc@ma= il.ru a =C3=A9crit : > Hi Marcin, > The signal is audible!! S1-2 at 23.10 >=20 > 73 Andrey >=20 > Dear LF, > SP2KDS calling CQ now... > 137,695kHz QRSS 3 > 73! Marcin SQ2BXI >=20 =20 =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB063-ae74b0576b011a; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:49:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB095-ae74b0576b011a; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:48:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBA8n-0000zn-1w for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:45:53 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBA8m-0000ze-Fx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:45:52 +0000 Received: from col0-omc1-s15.col0.hotmail.com ([65.55.34.25]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBA8k-0003H4-M2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:45:52 +0000 Received: from COL122-W19 ([65.55.34.8]) by col0-omc1-s15.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:44:08 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:44:08 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Nov 2009 16:44:08.0539 (UTC) FILETIME=[83983AB0:01CA6937] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_b4e08e32-8312-470d-9fa2-f8def4a4db3d_" Subject: LF: XGJ X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --_b4e08e32-8312-470d-9fa2-f8def4a4db3d_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_abcb4636-585c-40ee-9aba-d75a1a1a563a_" --_abcb4636-585c-40ee-9aba-d75a1a1a563a_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren, Jean-Pierre, LF! The XGJ signal was very nice last night (but I had opened a window and my= RX drifted abt 0.1Hz, HI!) 73! Lubos, OK2BVG =20 _________________________________________________________________ Nov=E1 Windows 7: Kter=FD po=E8=EDta=E8 je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD? Dal=B9= =ED informace. http://windows.microsoft.com/shop=3D --_abcb4636-585c-40ee-9aba-d75a1a1a563a_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren, Jean-Pierre, LF!
The XGJ signal was very nice last night= (but I had opened a window and my RX drifted abt 0.1Hz,  HI!)
73!

Lubos, OK2BVG

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autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Hell Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090904030404090309030701" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------090904030404090309030701 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris wrote: > Hi All, > Does anybody know if the Hell software is still available and, if so, > where from, please? > Thank you and 73, > Chris, G4AYT. there is also another very nice piece of software dedicated entirely to Hell modes . it is Nino's IZ8BLY prgram which can be found on his webpage: http://xoomer.virgilio.it/aporcino/Hell/index.htm it does handle the ptt isuue in a 'classic' way i.e. via available com ports 73 de Piotr, sq7mpj qth: Lodz /jo91rs/ --------------090904030404090309030701 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chris wrote:
Hi All,
Does anybody know if the Hell software is still available and, if so, where from, please?
Thank you and 73,
Chris, G4AYT.
there is also another very nice piece of software dedicated entirely to=C2=A0 Hell modes . it is Nino's IZ8BLY
prgram which can be found on his webpage:
http://xoomer.virgilio.it/aporcino/Hell/index.htm<= br> it does handle the ptt isuue in a 'classic' way i.e. via available com ports

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 73 de Piotr, sq7mpj

qth: Lodz /jo91rs/

--------------090904030404090309030701-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg01.mx.aol.com (rly-dg01.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.85]) by air-dg04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG042-59e4afeac6624d; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:11:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG013-59e4afeac6624d; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:11:03 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9IOE-0007uZ-QZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 13:10:06 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9IOE-0007uQ-3M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 13:10:06 +0000 Received: from smtp826.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.13.123]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9IOC-00040H-ML for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 13:10:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 96128 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2009 13:09:59 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE:Importance; b=B/YZCP9Ma0PRk5ybRx0o0q+eUwjhkALo24Oz7IkOqB8haE3al+uUUg7IqFw7rS5kyA4hPHTCTipByXO6CoYnUfeDwvXqHdpdn/4lUlm/9XlOcZu2cZl3mL6qJPvOZGxtC+AVv7iusO7ua5E4cai0MYlBk2PbU/zz6seqUX/OfAA= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@81.154.8.30 with login) by smtp826.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Nov 2009 13:09:58 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: JSvqNSWswBBXc9Mk_Vd71RtGz2bViJtuZMADdmi78eLqBj_R7.fL X-YMail-OSG: 5OueaqsVM1nOEUUQQifvupo2oip.jRbL3_RpKtlKqLi0LD0t9r26QM7CiWargqCjVae5sRTIgWo5aeG9XjR67o3QdiWJ5oanJ_JMZXmvtt.kW18Mos7DjOTmkaMYn58UG_SP4MWU7xH471Zm.5axb8C2v8YCPOob6bJ3yw55aXk.lFhU67td1i_IgtRTzu7IULZ4spLOrPtuPNtF7Ub6kEhvcGMgFbg66TIAAu6j4IAOHFG5tuQmOBO2LJ2seOsJriZM1sbXBZzg97bqRM121gV0S_XbCbbUv7SOqbuUlR3W1QBPuZKbnWsJY2NPxeT9QHOMSb5u1O4MnapDqNXZ X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 13:10:16 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <025801ca6528$a566dec0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: PIRATES Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 This discussion is off topic and has nothing to do with LF or 500 kHz. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of mal hamilton Sent: 14 November 2009 12:48 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: PIRATES Well you have been hooked. I have a mix of transport both a bicycle and a CLK320 for your records, living dangerously. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "g4gvw" To: Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 12:30 AM Subject: Re: LF: PIRATES > Mal, > > I have been extremely successful of late in not rising to your bait on > various topics. This time I really must take umbrage at your rather > sweeping statement about the Maritime Service vis-a-vis the 500khz > allocation. > The maritime Service has been almost 100% a "commercial" service and as > such has had as its primary interest the maintenance of a viable > communications service. As far as I am aware. no serious research has > been done by that service into weak-signal and similar modes apart from > that done by the various military interests. Effectively, as soon as > alternative and arguably more efficient/cost effective alternatives > became available these commercial interests naturally migrated to them. > This is not the same as saying they had "exhausted all possibilities and > concluded it is of no further use." Your statement is rather like saying > that the coming of the motor car rendered the bicycle or the horse > obsolete and of "no further use"! It's a funny thing but in my travels I > see plenty of both in widespread use! > Amateur radio for many of us encompasses a wide range of activities and > your constant carping and promotion of your own rather biased interests > gets on the nerves of quite a lot of us to the extent that some members > no longer subscribe to the group. > Perhaps you should consider the view that, as with the cyclists and > horse riders there are modes of operation that lead to the promotion of > health and happiness and a calm and healthy state of mind. > > > > > > On Fri, 2009-11-13 at 17:44 +0000, mal hamilton wrote: >> Lots of pirates reported around the east african coast and Indian >> ocean but now Radio pirates !!!! on 500. >> How would one know a Pirate? their style of sending on cw or the way >> they WSPR. >> Beware of the WSPR merchants no ID just carriers switching on/off as >> far as the casual radio amateur is concerned. Instead of a simple >> approach worldwide to issue Radio Amateur licences for the >> traditional CW mode on 500, appliance operator licences were issued >> for Broadcast modes ie >> CW beacons, Data beacons, and other transmissions, which must stop at >> Country Borders and must not be reported by anyone hearing such >> transmissions beyond these Borders. >> In other words the whole 500 khz business is Chaotic, whereas the >> other MF allocation 160 metres is orderly and sensibly regulated using >> in the main CW and SSB. >> It would appear the appropriate license authorities do not think the >> Appliance Operator has much to contribute to the advancement or >> research on 500. >> The marine service has been using the band for the past 100 years and >> has exhausted all possibilities and concluded it is of no further use, >> with the advancement of Satellite communications technology. >> 500 in EU seems to be a fun band for WSPR Beacons where no operator >> participation is required just unattended machines belching out bits >> of data and generating QRM to the few Radio amateurs trying to get by >> on CW. >> Let us have your opinion. >> De G3KEV >> >> >> >> > -- > 73 es gd dx de pat g4gvw > qth nr felixstowe uk > (east coast, county of suffolk) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.62/2499 - Release Date: 11/12/09 14:33:00 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG064-9fa4b042c2c170; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:18:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG024-9fa4b042c2c170; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:17:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAo8c-0003Lj-Oa for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:16:14 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAo8c-0003La-3a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:16:14 +0000 Received: from smtp822.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.18]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAo8Z-0003K6-V8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:16:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 82980 invoked from network); 18 Nov 2009 17:16:06 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=Zpf6qWRaVYz8krbqQ5ZavIubFw+cMk1YqrVHixCIfqAfoVnoRYfqZ380q7q6H3W4Vbju1zS6DnU6tsDFim3TGEnFLivCwVRgLMa0eG59fEQrRtAh8Xx2yZOPOn07MhrmubgsstCCEfZ5KztxtceZgV7TgjA8ZiE57jWGcpv2uVk= ; Received: from unknown (HELO DennisPC) (dennis.easterling@86.130.78.97 with login) by smtp822.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Nov 2009 17:16:06 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: H_MJu2qswBDkdHeCAZfwexko6VNOiMP5URzYEvz3WrE5v1grQm6fnvJecjM9 X-YMail-OSG: obUKQMgVM1nNns5Deqk2awDOoA9MFuTwab0ZMnvHx86tqP_D_gjUi0dkNk.rYfTb41Aya5Qr3tAeCn4demEAQuoY1JmgblhUtxsW4tk5Wa1j1cLggo4ClSgrgon1xrhmsNNXj.BcOgs8FVZQs1no4Cy_ew3L5cfJTCRBJo3hJ112DusSSiRTCD2cr_8aNTNcpXQUsKmEu0iw5xclIvcdd_f.CmjfpMF_.pHMX8s8ZiB2GqDWBAeSftXuXqCNhkka X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <8E115927716E4640BE76583239937818@DennisPC> From: "DENNIS EASTERLING" To: Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:16:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Lost QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0071_01CA6872.CE48ABF0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0071_01CA6872.CE48ABF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Mal Sorry if I left you in the lurch 16.5 today, after giving you a repor= t 599 something happened and a single frequency signal came up on top= of you and slowly drifted down frequency, perhaps someone tuning? Better luck next time. 73 Dennis M0JXM ------=_NextPart_000_0071_01CA6872.CE48ABF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Mal
 
Sorry if I left you in the lurch = ; 16.5 today,=20 after giving you a report 599 something happened and a single=20 frequency signal came up on top of you and slowly drifted down fr= equency,=20 perhaps someone tuning?
 
Better luck next time.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
------=_NextPart_000_0071_01CA6872.CE48ABF0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDA072-a7f4b0c64a07c; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:56:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA077-a7f4b0c64a07c; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:56:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ND4Hw-00088Z-Kt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:55:12 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ND4Hw-00088Q-3b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:55:12 +0000 Received: from mailt.toya.net.pl ([217.113.224.9] ident=postfix) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ND4Hu-0005xR-75 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:55:12 +0000 Received: from mail.toya.net.pl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.toya.net.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 619F42000059F for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:55:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.103] (unknown [10.11.152.246]) (Authenticated sender: unimlyn) by mail.toya.net.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4228320000060 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:55:09 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B0C644B.2030807@toya.net.pl> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:55:07 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGlvdHIgTcWCeW5hcnNraQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <774E21EDD9DB4D8292615A728F4050AF@AGB> <97EE052373644555BA2C6F114C693250@2a2d7ed321c6425> <52A6DF956B1944F4BBF07AA8C96F9BC3@AGB> In-Reply-To: <52A6DF956B1944F4BBF07AA8C96F9BC3@AGB> X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: AW: STANAG .. What software is this showing ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020208060402090608030403" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------020208060402090608030403 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Graham wrote: > Thanks .Jose / Gerhard > =20 > 73 - G .. > > From: Beckmann, Gerhard > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:11 PM > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Cc: 'Graham' > Subject: LF: AW: STANAG .. What software is this showing ?? > > Hello Graham, > > =20 > > Partly our good old PSK Sounder programm can decode STANAG messages=20 > (identifier=E2=80=A6) > > For further steps there is only commercial software available as far=20 > as I know. > > http://www.klingenfuss.org/perseus.htm > > (for example =E2=80=93hi--) > > =20 > > Vy 73 de Gerhard // DK6NI > > =20 > > =3D=3D=3D=3D > Hello Gerhard, Graham Today, just few hours ago, Mal was asking about sitor-b decoding=20 software. I've replied here, on this reflector , suggesting him to use ,= =20 among others, the software named SIGMIRA . it is free for download and use and it=20 does have built-in decoder for STANAG and as i assume we speak about=20 the same thing i.e. 2400 baud 8-PSK modulation :) pse, read my post issued earlier today where you can find the=20 appropriate link to this soft. = =20 73 de Piotr, sq7mpj qth: Lodz /jo91rs/ --------------020208060402090608030403 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Graham wrote:
Thanks=C2=A0 .Jose / Gerhard
=C2=A0
73 - G ..

From: Beckmann, Gerhard
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:11 PM
Subject: LF: AW: STANAG .. What software is this showing ??

Hello Graham,

=C2=A0

Partly our good old PSK Sounder programm can decode STANAG messages (identifier=E2=80=A6)

For further steps there is only commercial software available as far as I know.

http://www.kli= ngenfuss.org/perseus.htm

(for example =E2=80=93hi--)

=C2=A0

Vy 73 de Gerhard=C2=A0 //=C2=A0 DK6NI

=C2=A0

=3D=3D=3D=3D

Hello Gerhard, Graham
=C2=A0Today,=C2=A0 just few hours ago,=C2=A0 Mal was asking about sitor-b= =C2=A0 decoding software. I've replied here, on this reflector , suggesting him to use , among others,
the software=C2=A0 named SIGMIRA . it is=C2=A0 free for download and use= and it does have built-in decoder for STANAG=C2=A0 and as i assume we speak about the same thing i.e.
2400 baud 8-PSK modulation=C2=A0 :)
pse, read=C2=A0 my post issued earlier today where you can find the appropriate link to this soft.

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 73 de Piotr, sq7mpj
qth: Lodz /jo91rs/

 --------------020208060402090608030403-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF062-5804b06e3e72aa; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:46:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF103-5804b06e3e72aa; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:46:01 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBYTa-0000CY-Ph for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:44:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBYTa-0000CP-8s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:44:58 +0000 Received: from mta41.charter.net ([216.33.127.83]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBYTZ-0001vf-Fr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:44:58 +0000 Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.10]) by mta41.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.02.04 201-2219-117-106-20090629) with ESMTP id <20091120184450.NMDO23932.mta41.charter.net@imp10>; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:44:50 -0500 Received: from mp17 ([209.225.8.247]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id 7Wkn1d00N5Knl7V05Wkojt; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:44:48 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=zMJO7iCr_SOfKds0gH8A:9 a=wB3e8mu1W-BuM-le0H8aDcoCesIA:4 Message-ID: <20091120134448.AZWVG.1555689.root@mp17> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:44:48 -0800 From: To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: lowfer@mailman.qth.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: from 64.206.3.50 by ssomail.charter.net; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:44:47 -0500 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.7 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: WD2XES WSPR 136.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) WD2XES will be running a WSPR beacon for the next two evenings. Set your receiver for 136.0 kHz USB -- I will be on 137.577 kHz. The start time tonight (Friday) will be around 2345 UTC, and hopefully earlier on Saturday night. The transmit time will be set for 50%, and company from either side of the pond would be welcome. Assuming no problems, it will run until 1100Z the next morning. Reports are always welcome by email or the MEPT spot database. John, W1TAG/WD2XES FN42ch From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df04.mx.aol.com (rly-df04.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.17]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF073-5434afaff01b3; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:14:43 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF042-5434afaff01b3; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:14:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8HhB-0003lT-AS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:13:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8HhA-0003lK-Sg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:13:28 +0000 Received: from mailout01.t-online.de ([194.25.134.80]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8Hh8-0005C7-2V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:13:28 +0000 Received: from fwd05.aul.t-online.de by mailout01.t-online.de with smtp id 1N8GQo-0006Ui-02; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:52:30 +0100 Received: from [192.168.2.22] (XNg33aZT8hmelHJUXQlONqXVhnZ6tTK4PH4xQEdrj4yZbhX+6GEwCRheuyw69PVwm6@[93.196.56.230]) by fwd05.t-online.de with esmtp id 1N8EkP-1rIiRc0; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:04:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de References:<001101ca621e$dcdc3380$96949a80$@princeton.edu> <20091110192309.4v8agotbs0k0gocs@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <004a01ca6249$d91531e0$8b3f95a0$@princeton.edu> <20091110222951.cr4qtrqagcwcowok@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <4AFAAE9C.1070304@ukonline.co.uk> In-Reply-To:<4AFAAE9C.1070304@ukonline.co.uk> To: X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.08.0003 Date: 11 Nov 2009 15:04 GMT Message-ID: <1N8EkP-1rIiRc0@fwd05.t-online.de> X-ID: XNg33aZT8hmelHJUXQlONqXVhnZ6tTK4PH4xQEdrj4yZbhX+6GEwCRheuyw69PVwm6 X-TOI-MSGID: 3ca2b1d6-eda1-4992-ad2c-a3ce7d823fb6 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Ferrite characteristics Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Peter, besides measuring the AL value as alrady described there is another rather simple way to determine the characteristics of ferrites: Take an Ohms meter and see if the core itself is conducting or not, when the contacts touching the core are separated about half an inch or so. Very high resistance is typical for nickel-zinc cores (suitable for rf transformers) whilst conducting cores are of the magnesium-zinc type, to be used at much lower frequencies. Good luck! 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB "Peter Dodd" schrieb: > Does anyone know of a method of measuring the characteristics > (permeability) of ferrite cores? I have a box of these most without any > identification although I do have T200, 68-2T and T68-2s whose > characteristics are known. > > It occurs to me that you can make a tuned circuit and measure resonance > with a GDO when a ferrite core is inserted into the inductance. A graph > could be made of the different resonances with different cores, to > extrapolate the unknowns. > > However I think that ferrite bulk might be a problem. For example I > guess the red T cores use the same material but would there be a > difference between the T200 and the T68? > > I have lots of material about ferrites in general - I just want to know > what I have in my junk box. I am not interested in exact measurements, I > just want to know if a core is suitable for a specific job. > > Regards > > Peter, G3LDO > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md08.mx.aol.com (rly-md08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.146]) by air-md06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD061-91d4b01887f30f; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:15:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD085-91d4b01887f30f; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:14:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA58f-0006hf-A9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:13:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA58e-0006hW-Uh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:13:16 +0000 Received: from smtpa1.mediabeam.com ([194.25.41.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA58e-0001dP-1Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:13:16 +0000 Received: from r300-1 (balancer4.mediabeam.com [194.25.41.40]) by smtpa1.mediabeam.com (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id nAGHD6CX009294 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:13:08 +0100 From: "Uwe Jannsen" To: Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:13:05 Message-ID: <1A3407D90B10110D0521E@kabelmail.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-PRIORITY: 3 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.3 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FUZZY_OCR_WRONG_CTYPE=1.500,INVALID_DATE=1.76 Subject: Re: LF:SP2KDS Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Next_Part_000_16112009171305.00001A34" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------=_Next_Part_000_16112009171305.00001A34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Marcin, hi Roman, strong signs in JO43SV. pse see attechment. regards Uwe/dj8wx -------- Kabel E-Mail Reply --------------- From: rw3adb@rambler.ru To : rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: 15.11.2009 23:22:16 Hi Marcin, LF! 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4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEX6K-0001yU-7f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:53:18 +0000 Received: from mailout1.go2.pl (unknown [10.0.0.104]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE9BB30002 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 00:53:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from unknown (unknown [10.0.0.42]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 00:53:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from 58-178-124-188.rev.pro-internet.pl [188.124.178.58] by poczta.o2.pl with ESMTP id Yhdpzz; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 00:53:12 +0100 Message-ID: <002e01ca7085$f21d05b0$3ab27cbc@ap6fnsa53r3k6h> From: "Marcin" To: References: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AA67@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 00:50:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-O2-Trust: 2, 65 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Stefan, LF Very good copied your signal in Poland. Why use your portable ground system? -- Vy 73! Macin SQ2BXI Dear Lowfers, This is my first mail to the reflector and so i want to say hello to= all :-) It=B4s nice to be able to participate now here although my activity wi= ll stay on the band mostly ;-) If there will be no weather problems this evening I will agn be qrv on= 137 in CW (abt 136,8) and/or QRSS3. Since abt 3 weeks I am qrv again. Since I live in a city I have no possibilities to be on LF, even not in RXing (QRM)... Therefore and ca= use I like to be in the nature I am now qrv in /p. I use a kite antenna, 100= m up (!). This should have a radiation resistance of 0,83 Ohms. My overall resistance is abt 30...55 Ohms, depending on the ground a achieve. So= you can imagine abt the ERP. I have a 1KW class E PA that I use with limit= ed power. But The ERP easily reaches the 1W ERP limit, as one can imagine= .. My RX is still poor but I am working on a receiving loop. Now, I use= the TX ant for receiving that causes some problems ;-) It would be nice to get some QSOs or even RX-RPRTs tonight. Until now= I got 2 QSOs in each activity ;-) Best regards, Stefan / DK7FC From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (rly-dd08.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.155]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDD062-b954b140b98244; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:14:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD087-b954b140b98244; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:14:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NFAky-0007nX-IO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:13:52 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NFAky-0007nO-44 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:13:52 +0000 Received: from out1.ip02ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.238]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NFAkv-0004B6-Uq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:13:52 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAL+ZE0tcGu1+/2dsb2JhbACESMU1j2+BL4IuVAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,315,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="142450770" Received: from unknown (HELO your91hoehfy9g) ([92.26.237.126]) by out1.ip02ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 30 Nov 2009 18:13:38 +0000 Message-ID: <000501ca71e8$d925b980$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <1259600322.2708.33.camel@gerhard-desktop> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:13:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Testtransmission 137,685 OE3GHB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Gerhard Ur sig visible at 1812 z MMM copy QSB De mal/g3kev/IO94SH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerhard Hickl" To: Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 4:58 PM Subject: LF: Testtransmission 137,685 OE3GHB > Hi all! > > In the moment I'm trying to test my TX and my antenna. I'm going to > transmit from 1800z to 2000z today. Probably a bit longer. > > My Antenna is a Marconi, 12m vertically/top-loaded. The loading coil is > about 2,4 mH and antenna input is about 35 Watts. > > The QRG will be 137,685 and the text is "TEST OE3GHB" repeated every 10 > Minutes. My VFO is also still in development-state an so QRG could vary > some cps. > > Please take the time and try to receive my signal. Reports are very > appreciated. Thank you in advance. > > 73 and cheers > > OE3GHB > Gerhard > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb01.mx.aol.com (rly-mb01.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.154]) by air-mb06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB064-cec4af7081e1d8; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:04:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB018-cec4af7081e1d8; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:04:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7C6n-0007p3-3g for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:03:25 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7C6m-0007op-E3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:03:24 +0000 Received: from web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([87.248.110.180]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7C6l-0005qa-K5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:03:23 +0000 Received: (qmail 75843 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Nov 2009 18:03:18 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1257703398; bh=Yq87SEXgJJrWnwDcUSzrtsP8fbJ4drsYS3wYkVqaZys=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PaC2NEVrP0D51EvXLzJubEsQ1tX8SHld1+8J/vA2LwTGYEmGxMCDn7SUhxeO4veyd1Xnphx4UdYb0neEJZKPVM9vO/dxj3NXH7gRlzFZLgj4qBDwTXqMiboIuwI8J7nUmvtb2zy/2rnsO4mAJ3r7ciSEWCfghYJDnyv5s87SxEY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=w8kh+n/ZMlbhBbRk5sB87YWIURacEAjHjroHgxjdOY8dszaaD32/wT6tgsBX5D/EixkvZRaQgwLEfIdKgSYUNM8tYEv/TAOVk7YXftMylm5BjBjcz6VlEUGR+ehmkZ0+q0NjdfF2UpmS94+Y+D51efJsJa0VDYb/fnayFoNJtGQ=; Message-ID: <112811.74996.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 0j6GIF0VM1lg4Sp1bmWWUcULC1XOR42bokkKhG10lb8m3ZWeHZEwWyg2UGo2Ja5Vrv6aq2hBMKOuDNARqAaNDLRMFycWn15wWsA3w69McRWKyMU5drVnVp53w.qOM9tGW9WcOStoKep_omxY5yfhNri5ijO64aIS4QdQg.LaTzp3mlfY6Y7Ck6YcTh8bazEvJTXhsnumdqrudaaKUwkWH3eJNQFNBOlcteV.uT3rdJhhAIxg0BrJ2B_x07_5u5c9LXE- Received: from [80.6.43.68] by web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:03:17 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/211.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:03:17 +0000 (GMT) From: Chris Osborn To: LF Group MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2016457650-1257703397=:74996" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, LINES_OF_YELLING,LINES_OF_YELLING_2 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d272.1 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : fail --0-2016457650-1257703397=:74996 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LF It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m. This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 600m /= 80m. Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0CF -= No. 998. QSO break-down according to mode: 928 CW, 34 RTTY and 5 QRSS 600m STATIONS My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many of= these go back to the start of the UK 600m allocation in March 2007. Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding beaco= ns). Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of agai= n: G3KZU, G3YHV . . . Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT: G3UNT, G3VTT= , G4GDR. . . MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the same sta= tions many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of my total conta= cts. My most frequently worked stations are: GW3UEP - 120 G3KEV - 102 M0FMT - 90 G3ZWH - 80 (alas now= SK) G3DXZ - 67 G4GDR - 60 EI0CF/ GI4DPE - 51 M0JXM - 48 G3UNT - 45 G3VTT - 38 CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a cross-ba= nd QSO: DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . . and our few EU MF friends are still active: ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . . WSPR ON 600m I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for the WSPR= mode was never achieved for hand sent Morse (CW), which after all is the= mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF marine band. If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stations oper= ating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band then I guess= it may be time for me to QSY. 73 Chris G3XIZ =20 --0-2016457650-1257703397=:74996 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
LF

It was a red-letter day today as I achieved= my 1000th QSO using 600m.
This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtua= lly all of which were 600m / 80m.

Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO wit= h runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0CF - No. 998.

QSO break-down ac= cording to mode:     928 CW,  34 RTTY  and &= nbsp; 5 QRSS

600m STATI= ONS

My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many of these go back= to the start of the UK  600m allocation in March 2007.
Of these= I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding beacons).
= Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of agai= n:  G3KZU, G3YHV . . .
Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QR= T:  G3UNT, G3VTT, G4GDR. . .

MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED

With so few active opera= tors it is obvious that one will work the same stations many times and the= top 10 stations account for 70% of my total contacts.
My most frequent= ly worked stations are:

GW3UEP - 120     G3KEV= - 102      M0FMT - 90     G3= ZWH  -  80  (alas now SK)
G3DXZ    - = ;  67     G4GDR -   60   = ;   EI0CF/ GI4DPE  -  51   M0JXM - 48
G3U= NT    -   45     G3VTT = -   38

CROSS= -BAND AND EU STATIONS

There are a few 'regular' stations who= listen to 600m and enjoy a cross-band QSO:
DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE,= G3TVF . . .

and our few EU MF friends are still active:
ON4KTJ,= OR7T and OZ8NJ. . .

WS= PR ON 600m

I personally find it sad that the present level= of enthusiasm for the WSPR mode was never achieved for  hand sent Mo= rse (CW), which after all is the mode which I call to mind when thinking= of the old MF marine band.
If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with= more and stronger stations operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment whi= ch is the 600m band then I guess it may be time for me to QSY.

73 Chris G3XIZ


<= br>




--0-2016457650-1257703397=:74996-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da01.mx.aol.com (rly-da01.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.75]) by air-da04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA042-a4f4b070db3d9; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:44:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA017-a4f4b070db3d9; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:44:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBbGB-0001l6-Hl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:43:19 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBbGA-0001kx-Vq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:43:18 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBbGA-00032P-0l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:43:18 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so3998151bwz.4 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:43:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=02zOBoCLReazA/UmKYxPihsZ9d80pRswF5ipH+rEQtQ=; b=kvobNcRs9AWYS/mj0ZR50n0gzts1ZaflJn0C/j7tAwzEtTDJI4lgR0M+N3i375tZ0s IEvG4D3xMhz3hTdqwM1PANSJ9WOSRj4h1uF5M8RLeYuQJxKjOU1eS11PyGEQna2HsXo1 7koz+Xrla+qI/fL6IuPlMhzT4zF6KFieLYwSQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=hAAYhh5X+DaWUP+XhDvUZvtf2OPnrFhlIk70Qq+pHL5wM4m8S3Px1nup9cQUZqCu6L idVk3mgxtAb8jgQRERzH8zlMjYovye5tICFVNOok6Pivow7KhJ6VIQN/x1W/wBmfKe2M IbTVNE4Qd7Q76tuhp6FloBD9HzbqjFpYapRiw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.157.24 with SMTP id z24mr1864875bkw.208.1258753391117; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:43:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <009a01ca6a22$07a90470$0517aac0@desktop> References: <20091120141648.8WGQY.1557635.root@mp17> <007f01ca6a1b$34a0b8d0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <009a01ca6a22$07a90470$0517aac0@desktop> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:43:11 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911201343q6330c05cxbc250a456fc61952@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: WSPR a QSO mode not just beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175d0640bcc78c0478d45c4b X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d248.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0015175d0640bcc78c0478d45c4b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Now I am unclear what *really* constitutes a WSPR QSO. Does me getting a WSPR database report from XX3XXX and he getting on from me at much the same time on the same database constitute a QSO? Or does it have to be a "real" QSO a bit like JT6m? I agree with Rik that an HF contest exchange contains less (mutually useful) data than either of these. 73s Roger G3XBM 2009/11/20 James Cowburn > Dear All, > > According to the ARRL, WSPR contacts, if verified as two way, will qualify > towards DXCC awards as they consider these to be a QSO mode and not simply > a > beacon. > > As there is an exchange of callsign, locator and signal strength then that > was deemed sufficient by the ARRL to qualify for DXCC and as a QSO in a > data > mode much like RTTY or PSK31 for example. > > This was discussed at the recent RSGB conference in a session on WSPR. > > With best regards > > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton > Sent: 20 November 2009 19:54 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: Re: WD2XES WSPR 136.0 > > Recently there has been an upsurge in wspr BEACON appliance operators and > your suggested frequency area is not the place for them. The bottom end > would keep Beacon acty out of the way. There would still be room for the > odd > EU qrs operator, can't say I have heard many in recent years. The freq area > 137 - 138 k/cs is frequently occupied by Russian and other EU dxers for > inter Country working using CW and QRS and 136.5 - 137 for local CW > working. > NA stns wishing to work EU would still use 137 - 138 on CW and QRS and not > be clobbered by wspr carriers going ON/OFF. > I hope you see the logic > G3KEV > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:16 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Re: WD2XES WSPR 136.0 > > > > Thanks for the suggestion, but I doubt it will cause you any more > interference than it has for the last 5 years. From our perspective, the > lower end of the band has long been reserved for EU to NA operation. > > > > John, W1TAG > > > > ---- mal hamilton wrote: > > > om I woud suggest you Beacon at the extreme bottom end of the band and > not > > > in the middle of the CW and QRS DX portion. > > > > > > > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --0015175d0640bcc78c0478d45c4b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Now I am unclear what really constitutes a WSPR QSO. Does me gettin= g a WSPR database report from XX3XXX and he getting on from me at much the= same time on the same database constitute a QSO? Or does it have to be a= "real" QSO a bit like JT6m?

I agree with Rik that an HF contest exchange contains less (mutually= useful) data than either of these.

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/11/20 James Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.net>=
Dear All,

According to the ARRL, WSPR contacts, if verified as two way, will qualify=
towards DXCC awards as they consider these to be a QSO mode and not simply= a
beacon.

As there is an exchange of callsign, locator and signal strength then that=
was deemed sufficient by the ARRL to qualify for DXCC and as a QSO in a da= ta
mode much like RTTY or PSK31 for example.

This was discussed at the recent RSGB conference in a session on WSPR.

With best regards


Jim



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_= group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_l= f_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton
Sent: 20 November 2009 19:54
To: rsgb_lf_group@blackshe= ep.org
Subject: Re: LF: Re: WD2XES WSPR 136.0

Recently there has been an upsurge in wspr BEACON appliance operators and<= br> your suggested frequency area is not the place for them. The bottom end would keep Beacon acty out of the way. There would still be room for the= odd
EU qrs operator, can't say I have heard many in recent years. The freq= area
137 - 138 k/cs is frequently occupied by Russian and other EU dxers for inter Country working using CW and =A0 =A0 QRS and 136.5 - 137 for local= CW
working.
NA stns wishing to work EU would still use 137 - 138 on CW and =A0QRS and= not
be clobbered by wspr carriers going ON/OFF.
I hope you see the logic
G3KEV

----- Original Message -----
From: <w1tag@charter.net> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org>
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: WD2XES WSPR 136.0


> Thanks for the suggestion, but I doubt it will cause you any more
interference than it has for the last 5 years. From our perspective, the lower end of the band has long been reserved for EU to NA operation.
>
> John, W1TAG
>
> ---- mal hamilton <g3kevm= al@talktalk.net> wrote:
> > om I woud suggest you Beacon at the extreme bottom end of the ba= nd and
not
> > in the middle of the CW and QRS DX portion.
>
>






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Hi LF,
capture WPF
Henny pa3cpm
73s
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(webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FC7131E703 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:16:54 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id 4622E18056; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:16:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from 171.156-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (171.156-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.247.156.171]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:16:54 +0100 Message-ID: <20091122201654.1vcwyecs0sgoswcw@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:16:54 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <4B04EADA.4090707@telus.net> <57a24ca70911190525s5bbf2768gcfe5e7150eb8f784@mail.gmail.com> <20091121211012.fehyrbxl4400ckc8@webmail6.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.247.156.171 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: temporary grabber Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Joe, the 507.77kHz grabber is now active again 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T PS: if there are other US/Canadians stations transmitting tonight I can try to set up a second grabber Quoting "jcraig@mun.ca" : > Thanks, Rik. > > It appears as the signals are there already. > > 73 > Joe > > On Sat, 21 Nov 2009, Rik Strobbe wrote: > >>> In the mean time, VX9MRC is presently on 507.77 kHz transmitting QRSS10 >> >> Hello Joe, >> >> I have set up a temporary 507.77 kHz grabber at >> http://www.strobbe.eu/argo/argo.jpg >> >> 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da08.mx.aol.com (rly-da08.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.82]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDA074-a874b0f008ab7; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:26:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA087-a874b0f008ab7; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:26:19 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDmlj-0000ZJ-0g for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:24:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDmli-0000ZA-DR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:24:54 +0000 Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.35]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDmlh-0004Kg-M5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:24:54 +0000 Received: from LAPTOP (a83-163-2-28.adsl.xs4all.nl [83.163.2.28]) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id nAQMOlLv098828 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:24:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from misan@xs4all.nl) Message-ID: From: "M. Sanders" To: References: <000e01ca6e84$d86c8710$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:24:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: CLASS E Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0024_01CA6EEF.A608BCB0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01CA6EEF.A608BCB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Mal an all LF, I have built an Class-E 100W amp for 136kHz at approx 85%-90% efficien= cy at 12VDC with two IRF fet's parallel some time ago. The capacitors= used in the output circuit were somwhat large to transform the low im= pedance at the FET output towards the aearial output socket at 50Ohms.= For DC separation an elco 450uF at 105degC (normally used in switchin= g PSU's) worked ok. The PI filter capacitors high voltage type worked= fine (did not get hot). PI filter L is 10uH air wound with a ferrid= rod partly inside moving back/forward inside the coil for tuning the= amp at exactly class-E phase shift and compensating the aereal impeda= nce, not beeing exactly 50 ohms in practice of course. Any iron near= the coil melts! so use only copper/brass materials there. The first pair of fets have been blown up by not switching the gate fu= lly in voltage. No fet will survive if DS is not turned fully open ins= tantly. Normal DS resistance at Vgate > 2V is below 0.3Ohm, power dis= sipated within fet specs at class-E. At Vgate below 2V the Pds=3DVds*I= ds at the phase shift that works for class E will destroy any fet. Slo= ppy gate switching / driving the class-E wit a sine-wave and you're up= for trouble sooner or later (aereal 50Ohm mismatch).=20 Kind regards, best 73's, Mike, PC4M=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 11:40 AM Subject: LF: CLASS E MF and Co Getting suitable capacitors is the problem, not normally available= from the junk box. Maybe a class F amp is the answer or the mechanical G turbo charged= rumoured to be over 100% efficient G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01CA6EEF.A608BCB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Mal an all LF,
 
I have built an Class-E 100W amp= for 136kHz at=20 approx 85%-90% efficiency at 12VDC with two IRF fet's parallel some ti= me ago.=20 The capacitors used in the output circuit were somwhat large to transf= orm the=20 low impedance at the FET output towards the aearial output socket=  at=20 50Ohms. For DC separation an elco 450uF at 105degC (normally used in= switching=20 PSU's) worked ok. The PI filter capacitors high voltage type  wor= ked fine=20 (did not get hot). PI filter L is 10uH air wound with a ferrid ro= d partly=20 inside moving back/forward inside the coil for tuning the amp at= exactly=20 class-E phase shift and compensating the aereal impedance, not beeing= exactly 50=20 ohms in practice of course. Any iron near the coil melts! so use only= =20 copper/brass materials there.
 
The first pair of fets have been blow= n up by not=20 switching the gate fully in voltage. No fet will survive if DS is not= turned=20 fully open instantly. Normal DS resistance at Vgate > 2V  is= below=20 0.3Ohm, power dissipated within fet specs at class-E. At Vgate below= 2V=20 the Pds=3DVds*Ids at the phase shift that works for class E= will destroy=20 any fet. Sloppy gate switching / driving the class-E wit a sine-w= ave=20 and you're up for trouble sooner or later (aereal 50Ohm=20 mismatch). 
 
Kind regards, best 73's,
 
Mike, PC4M 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mal=20 hamilton
To: rsgb
Sent: Thursday, November 26,= 2009 11:40=20 AM
Subject: LF: CLASS E

MF and Co
Getting suitable capacitors is the= problem, not=20 normally available from the junk box.
Maybe a class F amp is the answer= or the=20 mechanical G turbo charged rumoured to be over 100%=20 efficient
G3KEV
 
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Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:43:29 +0100 From: "Wolf Ostwald" To: References: <4B07ABA4.4060102@online.fr> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:45:14 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcpqkgSxXagfeVNHQ8Oi5RcXnN20bgABGD6w X-ID: XdqWRmZArhai1Ta09J-VRYgf9zNqGBKTD-ScOfE+MMsL23MZbdfhu3DQQhRSpFbZW7 X-TOI-MSGID: bf89bdb2-daba-48a2-a21c-d869b7657958 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0021_01CA6AA0.17A06660" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01CA6AA0.17A06660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello group ! I am not an expert with WSPR at all. But I followed the discussion regarding false detection of calls thru the database. To my understanding the WSPR operator has NO way to really find out whether the computer came to the right conclusion about the calls received, or whether it just judged by means of plausibility. We humans have no sense for phaseshift, that means we have to believe the machine. I think that the database in the background is like a walking stick for the blind. Of course it's a new and exciting technology, but I doubt that it is on one and the same level with a regular exchange and therefore should not be considered equally verifying a valid contact. My two pence worth de wolf df2py ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01CA6AA0.17A06660 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hel= lo group !

 

I= am not an expert with WSPR at all. But I followed the discussion regarding false detection= of calls thru the database.

To= my understanding the WSPR operator has NO way to really find out whether the computer came= to the right conclusion about the calls received, or whether it just judged= by means of plausibility. We humans have no sense for phaseshift, that means we= have to believe the machine.

I= think that the database in the background is like a walking stick for the blind.

Of= course it’s a new and exciting technology, but I doubt that it is on one and the same le= vel with a regular exchange and therefore should not be considered equally veri= fying a valid contact.

My= two pence worth   de wolf  df2py

 

------=_NextPart_000_0021_01CA6AA0.17A06660-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (rly-dg05.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.89]) by air-dg06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG062-5c84b0ab3ea2f6; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:10:33 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG055-5c84b0ab3ea2f6; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:10:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCbTZ-0001co-Hq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:09:17 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCbTZ-0001cf-3v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:09:17 +0000 Received: from mx30.mail.ru ([94.100.176.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCbTX-0003bz-GK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:09:17 +0000 Received: from [94.75.139.7] (port=65367 helo=[192.168.1.4]) by mx30.mail.ru with asmtp id 1NCbTR-000Cog-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:09:09 +0300 Message-ID: <4B0AB39A.6050807@mail.ru> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:08:58 +0300 From: Dmitry User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 SeaMonkey/1.1.18 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WPF 22-11.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Henny Thank you for capture Dmitry RA3YO "Y" henny van elst wrote: > Hi LF, > capture WPF > Henny pa3cpm > 73s > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden > verzonden: > WPF 22-11.jpg > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me01.mx.aol.com (rly-me01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.34]) by air-me09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME093-9964af5977b18d; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:51:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME012-9964af5977b18d; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:51:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6nYF-0000n9-Js for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:50:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6nYE-0000n0-HA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:50:06 +0000 Received: from mx01.infotech.at ([213.174.240.1]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6nYC-00024C-O8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:50:06 +0000 Received: from [213.174.228.204] by mx01.infotech.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6nYB-0003zx-5l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:50:03 +0100 Message-ID: <4AF5975C.4090105@inext.at> Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:50:52 +0100 From: Oberreiter Oswald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C74A83BA@exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net> In-Reply-To: <254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C74A83BA@exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: tnx QSO OE5ODL - DD7PC, QRSS +/-137.705KHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Marco . ja danke auch ,das ging sehr gut dein signal war immer stabil also deine antenne arbeitet sehr gut ! um die 10 db uberm rauschen ok bis auf bald mal wieder . ausgangsleistung waren hier ca 140 watt . servus de ossi oe5odl jn68rd Scholz, Marco schrieb: > Hello Ossy, > many thanks again for fb random QSO an hour ago. > Very relaxed QSO with your OOO signal. > Conditions not perfect due some light rain this morning. > > vy73 > Marco > DD7PC, JN49ax > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de10.mx.aol.com (rly-de10.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.146]) by air-de03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE034-50d4af9db873cb; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:30:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE108-50d4af9db873cb; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:30:48 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7yHq-0000cl-PX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:30:02 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7yHq-0000cc-DN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:30:02 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7yH4-0000yg-LS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:29:15 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24BCD51C004 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:29:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA812F3862 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:29:51 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id 5927F18056; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:29:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from 245.103-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (245.103-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [87.64.103.245]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:29:51 +0100 Message-ID: <20091110222951.cr4qtrqagcwcowok@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:29:51 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <001101ca621e$dcdc3380$96949a80$@princeton.edu> <20091110192309.4v8agotbs0k0gocs@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <004a01ca6249$d91531e0$8b3f95a0$@princeton.edu> In-Reply-To: <004a01ca6249$d91531e0$8b3f95a0$@princeton.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 87.64.103.245 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: 500 kHz WSPR de VE1JF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Jim, > Not tonight, Rik--I am committed to compared 160 WSPR with VE2DC in > Quebec (who will also be > Participating in the 500 kHz experiments and has already copied an > M0 there); anyhow, I > Have to leave before 2200 for a meeting this evening. Tx is on 160 > WSPR and I'll turn spotting back > on as I leave the house. (Still dial-up around here, so it's either > internet or telephone!) > > Would be happy to do it some other evening, though! No problem, we will try another night. > How do you generate a WSPR signal on 500 kHz? Kenwood TS440 on 4.5MHz into a homebrew transverter 4.5MHz --> 500kHz + 50W PA 73, Rik ON7YD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (rly-mf05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.175]) by air-mf07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF072-95f4af6d42fba; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:22:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF055-95f4af6d42fba; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:22:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N78eO-0006bN-2v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:21:52 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N78eN-0006bE-LG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:21:51 +0000 Received: from mailout06.t-online.de ([194.25.134.19]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N78eL-0004pG-S0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:21:51 +0000 Received: from fwd09.aul.t-online.de by mailout06.t-online.de with smtp id 1N78eL-0004Tw-00; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:21:49 +0100 Received: from df2py (ECbsH0ZCwhDsHFcvFYuZKbXFBy5RWZuf-hsEvJGf2ygTJRBAQZiOVeogUOsfIEvZbP@[80.187.105.33]) by fwd09.t-online.de with esmtp id 1N78eG-1zJKls0; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:21:44 +0100 From: "Wolf Ostwald" To: References: <4AF67DB3.1020204@telus.net> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:23:21 +0100 Message-ID: <3A8796444EB74E3E82CA2F48F839559E@df2py> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcpgS4q9/X04O87aRrKFqmvMn3WQdgAMv5cg In-Reply-To: <4AF67DB3.1020204@telus.net> X-ID: ECbsH0ZCwhDsHFcvFYuZKbXFBy5RWZuf-hsEvJGf2ygTJRBAQZiOVeogUOsfIEvZbP X-TOI-MSGID: 204c3201-0ed5-48bb-bb49-2eb9b0ac6187 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.236,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: AW: DCF39 strong on west coast. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Scott ! Interesting about the signal from DCF in Germany. That transmitter is about 50 miles east of me. But on LF almost no chance for VE7. Are You doing any on 500 kcs ? That band is more of a chance for the westcoast. But as of yet I have not reached the east coast on 500 kc. But I am planning on good improvements for 500 kcs on the antenna side. Let me know if You do any 500 kcs obsrvations. 73 de wolf BTW : added pix of my 505.030 kc transmitter - beacon call is DI2BJ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (rly-dg06.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.90]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDG071-5ce4b1220b036b; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:20:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG061-5ce4b1220b036b; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:20:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEe3h-0008CJ-Kh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 07:19:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEe3h-0008CA-6K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 07:19:01 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f215.google.com ([209.85.220.215]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEe3g-0000ul-F2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 07:19:01 +0000 Received: by fxm7 with SMTP id 7so2352004fxm.29 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:18:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.103.126.33 with SMTP id d33mr1022978mun.109.1259479133863; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:18:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?93.85.193.49? ([93.85.193.49]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s11sm8628364mue.49.2009.11.28.23.18.53 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:18:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B12205C.5020501@tut.by> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 09:18:52 +0200 From: Andrej User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AA67@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> In-Reply-To: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AA67@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Stefan, LF Biggest signal on the band. RST was 559 but no answer on my calls. Maybe next time. Thanks for activity. 73! EW6GB in KO45CN From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da03.mx.aol.com (rly-da03.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.77]) by air-da03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA032-a5d4affd714d5; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:25:46 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA035-a5d4affd714d5; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:25:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9cHO-0005Ps-EE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:24:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9cHN-0005Pj-Vq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:24:21 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9cHN-0000FI-6t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:24:21 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C03E51C007 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:24:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 498C231E702 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:24:11 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id 8A1B018056; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:24:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from 130.15-180-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (130.15-180-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [91.180.15.130]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:24:10 +0100 Message-ID: <20091115112410.27d3dldtj44k4sk4@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:24:10 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 91.180.15.130 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Who / where is OR2ELN ?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Graham, the call OR2ELN does not exist if it is a pirate he is floating in the Indian Ocean somewhe half way between Madagascar and Heard Island. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting Graham : > 2009-11-14 23:14 OR2ELN 0.503908 -33 0 > MF03 501 G0NBD IO83 11740 326 > > Just decoded ? > > tnx - G > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da03.mx.aol.com (rly-da03.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.77]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDA054-a5b4b104ca72c5; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:03:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA033-a5b4b104ca72c5; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:03:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NE8tH-0007zk-Op for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 22:02:11 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NE8tH-0007zb-4L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 22:02:11 +0000 Received: from web63602.mail.re1.yahoo.com ([69.147.97.72]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NE8tE-0002a7-9M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 22:02:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 15734 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Nov 2009 22:02:02 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1259359322; bh=n1+ms4EhuGfVzZATb1TsgxkgBOFEuFFxW9GAlcO2w3w=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=sqZqk7SHRYQDtxwb4UDuJwfW3PfBf0LLbRlq7pjEsNyoyB54ZnTtnRsRaBvum4mu1RY4oF/aO2uusVbYw1+pNH9VzuVXwqj8DOh1Jl6FqdxaP8DW3PKVGP88pY8f+kP+c0T42q05aZCcbPoDiiKSLUSZWWVx43rVyNMMSIITgps= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=gJTkmtXSS7xRrWzIa+G0CdwiPa5G65EWPKG9FTvG0crNN+UUZH11A0USCTvyoG+TVlG2OA1JnAXd6JLlbGXJXLB6XKE+jgySQEA22i5udQVcN6prXFoMJklZvfdy5E/4usbOl8JthpXnF2JwDEjSuKjOHxbSRDGZWRkACMBgOZA=; Message-ID: <220029.15482.qm@web63602.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: WljtUMsVM1kXzKxXPKIF7QVfo_bE7vpRwAZ9fCIXP6MVe68BwtfYMNfaOeiJdfKqS.WrOjvraofbfwK9qqOMgno44bWn8ijTXuXgwsFnKaKQz4CCDt_GKrFJTaJl0.ka9brGsNoxVUDWzGEVlSY1IULUhBzSlaVhpl1bSK.8KMmFZiyU2uS3C2D3PsnWhkw4VCZ5nzN4WazMF2xOiXvqjrAIZY_5857pK5Zkwpd0Kj70qYZQjWdcpCPNi8MSrlL1jdOlubn5wbc.iX.tv5DnUmDLhqcq3h0JuM1z.GftY7S0MIAPTAb.nLFfTn.rt2GQtGBb0J0z2kwO8Ebe6bs5JAmqEh4KO8zD88LRG08jziarMoDZXfunBaIu8USea0IiSAAO7JUojMDM1TsuqCoU5zOm.Q.3KzlSjyXo3s5SPr0Tw7pG2ZBRCicKrlBuS_rdiETDjILN7h7m4EI2IXl4sZz_ScSUZk2U7qD_v85.oEJ8.7Raxazks1F497ncQOyw6aVsJU.xevFxObX8v6m0WID5ZLAQ Received: from [98.70.122.172] by web63602.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:02:01 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:02:01 -0800 (PST) From: Andy - KU4XR To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, lowfer@mailman.qth.net In-Reply-To: <004301ca6fa2$2fb1d890$0900a8c0@lark> MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: How do I use Spectrum Lab as a VLF Soft Receiver ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d291.2 ; domain : yahoo.com DKIM : pass Thanks to all for the responses so far. My current interest is to use the sound card as if it were a receiver, and software to make it work like one. I have downloaded " WINRAD " ( Win98SE version ), and will=20 experiment with it this weekend. =20 A note on the web address for the software; the weak signals.com=20 link does not work, but google-ing " WINRAD " found this address=20 that is correct. http://www.sdrham.com/ I am still interested in any and all comments, suggestions, user experiences, and so on. Thank you in advance for any replies. 73 all ::: Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN. LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 185.29866 KHz ( QRSS-60 ) Coordinates: N: 35* 43' 54" - W: 84* 3' 16" http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr http://webpages.charter.net/ku4xr/ --- On Fri, 11/27/09, Alan Melia wrote: > From: Alan Melia > Subject: LF: Re: How do I use Spectrum Lab as a VLF Soft Receiver ? > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Friday, November 27, 2009, 3:42 PM > I am not sure about this you need to > scour the help files but the SID > receiver is not meant for listening to it is to produce a > sig-strength v > time plot. You might need some fairly crafty software > connection for Spec > Lab Wolf will maybe reply he does monitor. >=20 > As an easy alternative try WinRad by Alberto > www.weaksignals.com and just > stick a wire into the mic input and you get a full SDR > receiver. I am not > sure you get sound out even then you may be Virtual Audio > Cable, or perhaps > Alberto has a hook in the code now. The thing is you are > using the card > twice....once to pruduce the receiver and again to produce > the audio output. > I cant check at the moment I am still in the process of > loading up this PC. >=20 > Best Wishes > Alan G3NYK >=20 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andy - KU4XR" > To: ; > > Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 7:14 PM > Subject: LF: How do I use Spectrum Lab as a VLF Soft > Receiver ? >=20 >=20 > > Hello All: > > > > I have recently been trying to get a soundcard VLF > receiver > > going. I found a SAQ receiver on the web designed by > > Johan - SM6LKM. It works good I suppose never having > tried > > this before. I can hear " Radio noise " in other > words, it > > actually sounds like a receiver. When I connect > enough > > coils in series, with a variable cap to ground to make > a > > pre-selector, The noise floor will rise 20 dB when I > tune > > the Cap. and you can see the peak move across the > spectrum > > display. However, that's as far as you can go, You > can't > > choose a sound card, it automatically chooses the > windows > > default card, and I haven't found a way to use DSP > filtering > > with it, since everything is based on the sound card > alone. > > > > Now for Spectrum Lab, It has a built in " SID " > receiver, > > and the built in DSP filters work in the program. I > just can't > > get it to work !!!!! All I can get is low freq. hum, > or > > digital noise. It makes no difference with or without > an Ant. > > I've changed sound card sample rates, and FFT > settings, > > nothing works for me. > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions for me to try=A0 > ?? Thank you. > > > > 73 to all ::: > > =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (rly-dc06.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.35]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC031-b2c4af1ab5f1; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 11:27:30 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC068-b2c4af1ab5f1; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 11:27:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N5igE-0006ac-8e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:25:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N5igD-0006aT-PI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:25:53 +0000 Received: from mail-yx0-f203.google.com ([209.85.210.203]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N5ieu-0003Bm-JX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:24:33 +0000 Received: by yxe41 with SMTP id 41so18457830yxe.30 for ; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:25:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=u+iZq4w35go21CO6G/Zt8V5tvxBhKTm0TzL1DjZP470=; b=WYpb7fVamQl6bhMAHkBP/1dG5Z/LmE+B3wUqconrIwWJ6xAtHCRGY8ynb8k99pt6hI H6YpEw69eg+gdGrqtGu48r9xUvA+SSIzbXW/7+ZsZ18SlvH5JxvAFNPxdrL0ZSMfoKeu vPlYXkHVtMDyC2PhzKaUl1VLKhjE6mbSvE4Uo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=A4PldThh3q3f70ggRgikDPoXEX8oG5B/U7HAeWbX0k4w9/LOYm7ETi3K76Ah8lXALH qn4AEdvJjDSyup754sP4WIfo2ogISgCItsvc7GATNGK2c1DjvWaQVOYANuaLy/twi2+L DKb9dDWJD/YoPBQ+CSkNkNxNn92wZbYTh3gBM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.77.41 with SMTP id z41mr3079142yba.126.1257351945665; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:25:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 11:25:45 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70911040825i8280573r7c52559a04b70d6c@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: ukmicrowaves@yahoogroups.com X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: "Poisson, Shannon, and the Radio Amateur" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d284.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Andy, I can get a copy from the M.I.T. library but it may be a few days before I get over there... --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Andy Talbot wr= ote: > I'm trying to get hold of a copy of this paper from 50 years ago. > Does anyone have a scanned in version? > The only web reference I managed to find pointed to a site > ( http://tinyurl.com/d5bdo=A0)=A0 that=A0no longer works. > > Costas J.P.; > "Poisson, Shannon, and the Radio Amateur" > Proc. IRE,=A0=A0 vol 47, pp. 2058-2068, Dec 1959. > > Tnx in advance... > > Andy > www.g4jnt.com > > this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny state > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD061-b994af5d3271c6; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:06:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD093-b994af5d3271c6; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:06:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6rWv-0001OK-81 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:05:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6rWu-0001OB-Kp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:05:00 +0000 Received: from mail-pz0-f179.google.com ([209.85.222.179]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6rVs-0006Zf-HV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:03:57 +0000 Received: by pzk9 with SMTP id 9so1281708pzk.16 for ; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:04:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0MNXpYQCr7MX62OZe2E68fRpuMz7rPMqu1f4scFytI8=; b=fRGlwFJB838C5Lj2TqYiJsZ1vU+F4lqeNxic8QXJ7rZStL6SxEYoGHcS1iZiYIMIQ6 xEjPuTj8fDaEuzAGEnOU1DSmopwucnRqy4MJtfGzcm2SGN5ZOZA2ZAwqHR6xiwRtA5rA gmYx8WVBPPhczmutgPmyeUpn+i/AH4G7TtonQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=vk2NLs5rohyoZbZ4YrFfiqlGjvFOcgM53ftKNWHwtD7tkkZ71OBnfNtfIp3kIS7GSS RJsuV3w5Ma30jiyn6LX99EbiMtJgL/G92z6xoXyBH/miTSCVGZAZWrq8xfpZ6IMBRbd1 uqUxqehS/IZe03nHmprNH+oaAVWaU9jIjB1pM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.20.10 with SMTP id x10mr321170rvi.44.1257624292060; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:04:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:04:52 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 79722a1be62da5d7 Message-ID: <1f0624b90911071204u56968320r1544ecb29999c60a@mail.gmail.com> From: Gary - G4WGT To: Rsgb_Lf_Group X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: G4WGT grabbers (again) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd1a35e306ff20477cd7915 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m214.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0cd1a35e306ff20477cd7915 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi LF & all grabber watchers, G4WGT grabbers back on after a traumatic wrestle with PC problems which turned out to be virus infections, two trojans & a backdoor virus infection of six files & a registry entry. Seems to be OK now, time will tell. Cheers, Gary - G4WGT. --000e0cd1a35e306ff20477cd7915 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi LF & all grabber watchers,

G4WGT grabbers back on after a traumatic wrestle with PC problems which turned out to be virus infections, two trojans & a backdoor virus infection of six files & a registry entry.

Seems to be OK now, time will tell.

Cheers,

Gary - G4WGT.
--000e0cd1a35e306ff20477cd7915-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD101-b6e4b01a8b32b1; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:32:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD038-b6e4b01a8b32b1; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:32:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA7I8-000844-1H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:31:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA7I7-00083v-Lc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:31:11 +0000 Received: from mail-yw0-f193.google.com ([209.85.211.193]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA7I6-0002SF-Qg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:31:11 +0000 Received: by ywh31 with SMTP id 31so13425021ywh.30 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:31:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=a3xVJO+jlk3IbNyIRR9RL3A+bU2dCT/H5lOQ/dYjOpw=; b=TskFxq2oJplAHJLbrJd5uiX+N+3EIMPi9oLCSN4+FVHuHJZkNNOjLX89l/c+t56eFR oPS9NT+/P/VogW2uP9sPKdpNRjV8TszBy5w6s5/+Gc7+UJUtf28VJsH8WANeF92G/gkY jw9ethxYwTndBujKYz92nsPRNCDmKWeuvEZ/k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=aq2E6tGYVoluwFzrftKS+oTpo/Ata5mzWuuksVKFBbUd0xhtVlPMM1n8ebqSMJmqlv j1hdYZNnxXP2mDnyhWHZnZlQ+FMB5Z+y3uewT3hccc27V3ngE47NRA9//GdX7R9e2RnD SZXvziaI1rM0hnet/BVbOv3tGKg56+/iqgvM4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.141.131 with SMTP id c3mr793186hba.44.1258399863185; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:31:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:31:03 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: WSPR Entry Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m223.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Found in the database. Two consecutive hits with the same details suggests an incorrectly set station.. Uraguay, in Central Africa !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2009-11-16 19:06=A0=A0CW5PPT=A0=A00.503997=A0=A0-30=A0=A03=A0=A0KJ31=A0=A0= +53=A0=A0199.526=A0=A0G4WGT IO83qo=A0=A06399=A0=A03976 2009-11-16 19:06=A0=A0CW5PPT=A0=A00.503849=A0=A0-15=A0=A03=A0=A0KJ31=A0=A0= +53=A0=A0199.526=A0=A0G4WGT IO83qo=A0=A06399=A0=A03976 Andy www.g4jnt.com this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny state From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD054-b5f4b05823c106; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:37:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD021-b5f4b05823c106; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:37:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBAvM-0001Ze-LJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:36:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBAvM-0001ZV-A1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:36:04 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBAvL-0000yy-9a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:36:04 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA0474C81CE for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:35:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id F03E34C81FF for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:35:56 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B0581FC.5060203@online.fr> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:35:56 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Lubos, Warren, Yes very good signals of Warren last night ! It's a pity that the 137 Khz is forsaken more and more with the profit from the 500 Khz ! I think this winter of adding to my grabber ( in the place of the European window ) the band of the American beacons on 500 Khz . Warren , think that it will be useful to monitor the beacons of the American continent ? 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj Lubos OK2BVG a =E9crit : > Hello Warren, Jean-Pierre, LF! > The XGJ signal was very nice last night (but I had opened a window and= my RX drifted abt 0.1Hz, HI!) > > 73! > > Lubos, OK2BVG > =20 > _________________________________________________________________ > Nov=E1 Windows 7: Kter=FD po=E8=EDta=E8 je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD? Dal=B9= =ED informace. > http://windows.microsoft.com/shop > =20 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df09.mx.aol.com (rly-df09.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.22]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF011-5744b040b4e24d; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:57:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF091-5744b040b4e24d; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:57:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAlwt-0002WN-IB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:55:59 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAlwt-0002WE-3E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:55:59 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAlwr-00024l-Ib for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:55:59 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 569767B8048 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:55:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from PC_van_Rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-106.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.106]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BE5D31E702 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:55:34 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:55:33 +0100 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <20091118102656.11BAD31E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> References: <20091118085815.7282031E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <477782.43526.qm@web28104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <20091118102656.11BAD31E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091118145534.2BE5D31E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_10_20=0.945,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500kHz in Belgium Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_25774859==.ALT" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --=====================_25774859==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed All, over the past weeks I received several questions wether ECC Recommendation T/R 61-01 includes 501-504kHz in Belgium. I asked BIPT (our Ofcom, FCC, ...) and received this answer (in Dutch) : Een buitenlandse titularis van een HAREC vergunning mag onder dezelfde voorwaarden als de Belgische radioamateurs alle toegelaten klassen van uitzending en alle frequenties gebruiken. Dan mag hij ook de frequentieband 501-504 kHz gebruiken. English translation: A foreign holder of a HAREC licence may operate under the same conditions as Belgian radio amateurs, using all approved modes and frequencies. This includes the frequency range 501-504kHz. So it is legal to operate as ON/PAxxx/P, ON/Fxxxx/P, ON/Gxxxx/P etc. Restrictions (that of course also apply to our foreign guests): - 501-504kHz - NIB - max. 5W EIRP (not ERP !) - max. 100Hz bandwidth - only telegraphy (as per ITU definition, thus includes digital text modes) 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T --=====================_25774859==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" All,

over the past weeks I received several questions wether ECC Recommendation T/R 61-01 includes 501-504kHz in Belgium.

I asked BIPT (our Ofcom, FCC, ...) and received this answer (in Dutch) :

Een buitenlandse titularis van een HAREC vergunning mag onder dezelfde voorwaarden als de Belgische radioamateurs alle toegelaten klassen van uitzending en alle frequenties gebruiken.
Dan mag hij ook de frequentieband 501-504 kHz gebruiken.

English translation:
A foreign holder of a HAREC licence may operate under the same conditions as Belgian radio amateurs, using all approved modes and frequencies.
This includes the frequency range 501-504kHz.

So it is legal to operate as ON/PAxxx/P, ON/Fxxxx/P, ON/Gxxxx/P etc.
Restrictions (that of course also apply to our foreign guests):
- 501-504kHz
- NIB
- max. 5W EIRP (not ERP !)
- max. 100Hz bandwidth
- only telegraphy (as per ITU definition, thus includes digital text modes)

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T --=====================_25774859==.ALT-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg01.mx.aol.com (rly-dg01.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.85]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG071-59f4b01d08b49; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:22:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG014-59f4b01d08b49; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:22:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA9vv-0000Vl-L5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:20:27 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA9vv-0000Vc-3i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:20:27 +0000 Received: from mx30.mail.ru ([94.100.176.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA9vt-0002hz-AV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:20:27 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=11146 helo=EFREMOV) by mx30.mail.ru with asmtp id 1NA9vl-000F7y-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:20:17 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <001c01ca670a$f7e34100$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: References: <1f0624b90911160805u4435bd18ue805924594d8b997@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:20:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Gary, LF, WE2XGR/6?? I now hear SM6BHZ on the same frequency, RST569. cw / a long dash / voice 73 Andrey > Hi All, > > Good signals from both stations last night. > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo. > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb05.mx.aol.com (rly-mb05.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.163]) by air-mb06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB064-d084b059379f8; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:50:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB054-d084b059379f8; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:50:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBC4Z-0002Cb-Iu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:49:39 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBC4Z-0002CS-4U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:49:39 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBC4W-00047Y-UB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:49:39 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3412.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A1AFB1C00084 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:49:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3412.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 93C3D1C00085 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:49:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.37.171]) by mwinf3412.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 4BB421C00084 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:49:31 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091119184931310.4BB421C00084@mwinf3412.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <233D94BE69984F809585D246593DD1ED@AGB> From: "Graham" To: Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:49:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: T61AA Monitoring 502.4 >> NOW<< Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004E_01CA6949.06F10BB0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01CA6949.06F10BB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All. The real thing .. take two ..=20 Qsp of email sent to day from Ross ... in Kandahar=20 Graham, At 17:25Z I have put the IC7000 on 502.4KHz overnight and will see if= I can Rx any signals at all. I know it's a long shot as I would bet= that the performance of the ICOM would be very average at that freque= ncy, but here's hoping. 73 Ross ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01CA6949.06F10BB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
All.
 
The  real thing   ..= take two=20 .. 
 
Qsp of  email sent  to = ; day =20 from Ross  ... in Kandahar
 
Graham,

At 17:25Z I have put the IC7000 on 502.4KHz overni= ght and=20 will see if I can Rx any signals at all. I know it's a long shot as I= would bet=20 that the performance of the ICOM would be very average at that frequen= cy, but=20 here's hoping.

73

Ross


------=_NextPart_000_004E_01CA6949.06F10BB0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA071-8cd4b0922601ab; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:37:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA097-8cd4b0922601ab; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:37:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCAjh-0002Hv-MO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:36:09 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCAjh-0002Hm-41 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:36:09 +0000 Received: from out1.ip02ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.238]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCAjf-0003hh-Nj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:36:09 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAO+wCEtZ8PWp/2dsb2JhbADSeYQ8BA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,266,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="119228197" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([89.240.245.169]) by out1.ip02ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 22 Nov 2009 11:36:02 +0000 Message-ID: <006e01ca6b67$f7076160$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <1258889421.4b0920cd3e42f@imp.netikka.net> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:35:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: G3KEV calling CQ in CW on 137.0kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Tnx Paul for the report. Not much cw acty this morning. I saw OH1TN a few evenings ago on DFCW 137.7 de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul-Henrik" To: Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 11:30 AM Subject: LF: G3KEV calling CQ in CW on 137.0kHz Mal, LF Great signal from you on 137.0kHz normal CW at 1125UTC here in Vaasa KP03SD. Antenna is a PA0RDT Mini-Whip 10m AGL and IC-R75 with no CW filter, just the PBT to keep the bandedge powerhouse signals out. 73 Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ Vaasa / KP03SD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG073-9fb4b083a7dd8; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:08:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG025-9fb4b083a7dd8; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:07:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBvHx-00006F-Js for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:06:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBvHx-000066-7K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:06:29 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f211.google.com ([209.85.220.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBvHw-0001O9-Id for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:06:29 +0000 Received: by fxm3 with SMTP id 3so4779372fxm.4 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:06:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=/Cv6UwYLhyqz4bUW2gp+iUfuMwDet9zF3R70cMhj9+M=; b=FekISS268bdys6Bf4P15K3fvV1W2FIGtb9mkHa4ese9S0l3OMCNH0TIZKTr3IRC5VF 9JRvSop4yPo7ChdjKJvgYAQKjy35bjblBknvF11wtNiAZOZgLNIA3ydj3+0o+2V66OD9 WHzB3rnteL5YJzS4smXk0RcLTXsdF2claaEHI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZgRogauYJOG2DsnKPO1GLgj0Z4uOIZLCv9PARjEDSaN8LG1+3Tg3lumVO8N2CeQbaO Zn0w0NosIeV23hJr0XQO7kiyhKjxKAUCcBIPXDHFMBH8jCyh/aZnThdXpVoB13+/FmFU /gikbpzJnijyjlI7H7enR/asXSZ/yhjVnF8/g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.168.220 with SMTP id l28mr289898hbe.117.1258830381911; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:06:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B082AE0.80607@usa.net> References: <4B07ABA4.4060102@online.fr> <4B082AE0.80607@usa.net> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:06:21 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m234.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) And usually based on lack of understanding / ignorance or even prejudice. Andy www.g4jnt.com This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health and safety police 2009/11/21 Alberto di Bene : >> Of course it=92s a new and exciting technology, but I doubt that it is= on >> one >>> >>> and the same level with a regular exchange and therefore should not be >>> considered equally verifying a valid contact. > > Shades of the recurring and silly debates that every now and then happen= on > the Moon-net reflector... > > 73 =A0Alberto =A0I2PHD > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME031-9dc4b069789f; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:20:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME098-9dc4b069789f; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:20:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBTO4-0006E5-Sq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:18:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBTO4-0006Dw-HM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:18:56 +0000 Received: from out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.243]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBTO3-0007fu-Vy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:18:56 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmQFANclBktcHbKv/2dsb2JhbACCJSyGS4RqBsYwhDwE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,777,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="241821119" Received: from unknown (HELO your91hoehfy9g) ([92.29.178.175]) by out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 20 Nov 2009 13:18:33 +0000 Message-ID: <004101ca69e3$f6f3dcb0$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:18:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: QRV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003E_01CA69E3.F6BAA440" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01CA69E3.F6BAA440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LF Now QRV agn on LF any QRG also all other bands 500 K/cs up, XBAND work= ing what ever takes your fancy de malg3kev =20 ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01CA69E3.F6BAA440 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
LF
Now QRV agn on LF any QRG also= all other bands=20 500 K/cs up, XBAND working what ever takes your fancy
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------=_NextPart_000_003E_01CA69E3.F6BAA440-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df08.mx.aol.com (rly-df08.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.21]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDF014-56d4b1293d02c6; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:31:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF084-56d4b1293d02c6; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:31:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEljJ-0001ZA-Hv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:30:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEljJ-0001Z1-3x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:30:29 +0000 Received: from out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.240]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEljG-00037g-Rl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:30:29 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAL4iEktOkihC/2dsb2JhbADTDYQxBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,308,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="126499200" Received: from unknown (HELO TraceyPC) ([78.146.40.66]) by out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 29 Nov 2009 15:30:21 +0000 Message-ID: <52516CDBD5F74732BD66C5264DE11E7B@TraceyPC> From: "Tracey Gardner" To: References: <2746F3E144D3480AB85CD466920B1313@lindavideo> <003001ca70e7$24aaf3a0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <003c01ca70eb$0aa52120$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <4B126AF9.3050300@ntlworld.com> <7FC548B8EA774499A7E2BBC7DDDBD743@lindavideo> In-Reply-To: <7FC548B8EA774499A7E2BBC7DDDBD743@lindavideo> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:30:18 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv diode Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Ken How about these on ebay? 4pcs 1 Amp 10kV High Voltage Rectifier Item number:250539436700 Tracey Hello Everyone. Thanks for the replies, I have some BY255's which are rated at 1300v at 1A, the input to the diode stack is about 2.3KV peak, and was planning to use two BY255s in series in each of the four legs, of the full wave bridge, the problem is most resistors are only rated at 500v, hence using a single diode would remove the need for resistors. With resistors rated at 500v, this would require 16 diodes, and there is not that amount of space. Next question does anyone know of a source of 470K resistore rated at 1KV? these are rare and expensive animals 73 Ken M0KHW ----- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb07.mx.aol.com (rly-mb07.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.165]) by air-mb08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB082-d1a4b00283a230; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:11:47 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB076-d1a4b00283a230; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:11:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9hga-0007YQ-4L for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:10:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9hgZ-0007YH-MY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:10:43 +0000 Received: from smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.34]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9hgZ-0001h0-2U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:10:43 +0000 Received: from [192.168.178.20] (a82-95-116-115.adsl.xs4all.nl [82.95.116.115]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nAFGATTP015221 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:10:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nl9222@xs4all.nl) Message-ID: <4B0027F5.3060603@xs4all.nl> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:10:29 +0100 From: Ko Versteeg User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000a01ca65ec$16f199e0$6402a8c0@e7010> In-Reply-To: <000a01ca65ec$16f199e0$6402a8c0@e7010> X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: DI2AG WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Walter und Marianne Staubach wrote: > Dear MF, > DI2AG is already on air in WSPR. QRG 505.090KHz, PWR 0.4W ERP. > Duty cycle 33%. The beacon will be busy until tomorrow morning. > 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF Walter 1546 -28 1.4 0.505089 0 DI2AG JN59 27 73 de Ko, NL9222 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (rly-mf07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.177]) by air-mf03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF032-9714b02c2bc26; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:36:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF077-9714b02c2bc26; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:35:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAQ4l-0003ZU-4I for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:34:39 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAQ4k-0003ZL-NO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:34:38 +0000 Received: from gv-out-0910.google.com ([216.239.58.189]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAQ4i-0000We-39 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:34:38 +0000 Received: by gv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c6so31268gvd.38 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:34:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lElWMi1MKFPMMcveYFXYmu+XL6WCloqvjLJCwWL3oUM=; b=Ov/acmALVoW2m/bJPDDyhFYmo0GvhldzEPe43sZOmzWM/LE2lQ7rWwYOPWIUhlqYqF 1O7tdcwqFX6qhPeCzMMB6TfgaPyqGfbRR0SkkTEQg1nM7sjbxdvfA/eySvrsvuQokYoK WY4UWlMlFdyfjHKpIJ2hV4Ktow3rUl5ZAkEPg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=uYSNekcDobeqNUFWvLS1CBW2+2Ny9hq4PRdgogUCchV9/LtKFw1tJVlkWhHQFJRk8K wAxsMrya0ArAZd6BYTzUbNzpzgUz0UNMK9mW/E9i8wwTGjkRHcKg7JggE2s0x6y4Ddew LJgd6qqJ/e45SWmHlKzX/wHkJFkAcv0a9/aZc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.88.68 with SMTP id z46mr1291793wee.27.1258472072282; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:34:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B02BF9E.5020701@sighthound.demon.co.uk> References: <9afca2640911170243q3b4e2c95kb2668b937e727070@mail.gmail.com> <4B02BF9E.5020701@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:34:32 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911170734u7ebc121em5be88d61d99be249@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 136kHz WSPR tests Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6daa82bd4046b047892dcac X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m251.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0016e6daa82bd4046b047892dcac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 John, If *you *manage to hear me on 136kHz I shall eat my hat. ...but then I nearly said that last time about 500kHz!! 73s Roger G3XBM 2009/11/17 John P-G > Roger Lapthorn wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> Very encouraged by my results at 500kHz, I'd like to try some "low ERP" >> WSPR >> tests on 136kHz using the same small antenna and transverter (slightly >> modified). >> > > Let me know and I'll be watching! > > Cheers, > > John > GM4SLV > > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --0016e6daa82bd4046b047892dcac Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John,

If you manage to hear me on 136kHz I shall eat my hat.=

...but then I nearly said that last time about 500kHz!!

73= s
Roger G3XBM

2009/11/17 John P-G <gm4slv= @sighthound.demon.co.uk>
Roger Lapthorn wrote:
Dear all,

Very encouraged by my results at 500kHz, I'd like to try some "lo= w ERP" WSPR
tests on 136kHz using the same small antenna and transverter (slightly
modified). =A0

Let me know and I'll be watching!

Cheers,

John
GM4SLV





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--0016e6daa82bd4046b047892dcac-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md09.mx.aol.com (rly-md09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.147]) by air-md09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD094-9234af99a3f229; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:52:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD093-9234af99a3f229; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:52:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7tw5-0007iV-5T for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:51:17 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7tw4-0007iM-8C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:51:16 +0000 Received: from mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.47]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7tw1-00049F-AA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:51:15 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.1]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091110165103.IJEX17029.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:51:03 +0000 Received: from [86.27.93.99] (helo=jimdesk) by know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7tvr-0001X7-5x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:51:03 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: References: <112811.74996.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:51:02 -0000 Message-ID: <001b01ca6225$fcddd970$0617aac0@jimdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcpiINQToSU7wEkKQHmDg4eEikIZ8AABKCwg In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=BrDiTsk0AAAA:8 a=7SUOJ3FXqzo1KRNUzJgA:9 a=-UcIB5lNXIbxxTcHJJ4A:7 a=mvIZf1s4sJK0hRxpNAzNZdDAvM4A:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=-hJg1tCh9CgA:10 a=2llyaNObDIKQpFp6:21 a=SlLI6sKykdeB7QPi:21 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=CYiFMeZMVgHEJpznr_4A:9 a=cCtWWWqZFpP-zI1x0sQA:7 a=8q-Wtrl27hofp8XCdV2WJKne534A:4 a=4l3E1rQGdpsTfl5N:21 a=oLAabBPkp1OEkRHz:21 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001C_01CA6225.FCDDD970" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING, LINES_OF_YELLING_2 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01CA6225.FCDDD970 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Dennis I did not realize I was causing you QRM. A quick e-mail would have alerted me to it, rather than me being a "pain". I'm happy to work out a compromise where we operate at separate times or if you suggest a different frequency for me to work on. Just drop me a line with your ideas on this. With best regards Jim Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of DENNIS EASTERLING Sent: 10 November 2009 16:13 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Congratulations Chris. Most wspr stations seem to congregate at the top end of the band and are not too much trouble. Jim G7NKS is the biggest pain as he sits on my xtl frequency and is so close. Maybe a compromise would be for people using beacons to keep to one segment of the band (hopefully not 502.2 kHz -hee) 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Osborn To: LF Group Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 6:03 PM Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO LF It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m. This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 600m / 80m. Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0CF - No. 998. QSO break-down according to mode: 928 CW, 34 RTTY and 5 QRSS 600m STATIONS My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many of these go back to the start of the UK 600m allocation in March 2007. Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding beacons). Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of again: G3KZU, G3YHV . . . Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT: G3UNT, G3VTT, G4GDR. . . MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the same stations many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of my total contacts. My most frequently worked stations are: GW3UEP - 120 G3KEV - 102 M0FMT - 90 G3ZWH - 80 (alas now SK) G3DXZ - 67 G4GDR - 60 EI0CF/ GI4DPE - 51 M0JXM - 48 G3UNT - 45 G3VTT - 38 CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a cross-band QSO: DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . . and our few EU MF friends are still active: ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . . WSPR ON 600m I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for the WSPR mode was never achieved for hand sent Morse (CW), which after all is the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF marine band. If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stations operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band then I guess it may be time for me to QSY. 73 Chris G3XIZ ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01CA6225.FCDDD970 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Dennis<= /o:p>

 

I did not reali= ze I was causing you QRM.  A quick e-mail would have alerted me to it, rather than me being a ̶= 0;pain”.   I’m happy to work out a compromise where we operate at separate times or= if you suggest a different frequency for me to work on. Just drop me a line= with your ideas on this.

 

With best regar= ds

 

 

Jim=

 

 

Dr. James Cowbu= rn G7NKS

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org [mailto:owner-= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of DENNIS EASTERLING
Sent: 10 November 2009= 16:13
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: G3XIZ= - 1000 th MF QSO

 

Congratulations Chris.

 

Most wspr stations seem to congregate= at the top end of the band and are not too much trouble.    Jim G7NKS is the= biggest pain as he sits on my xtl frequency and is so close.   Maybe= a compromise would be for people using beacons to keep to one segment of= the band (hopefully not 502.2 kHz -hee)

 

73 Dennis M0JXM

----- Original Message -----

From: Chris Osborn

To: LF Group

Sent:= Sunday, November 08, 2009 6:03 PM

Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO

 

LF

It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m.<= br> This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 600m= / 80m.

Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0C= F - No. 998.

QSO break-down according to mode:     928 CW,  34 RTTY  and   5 QRSS

600m STATIONS

My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many of these go back to= the start of the UK  600m allocation in March 2007.
Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding= beacons).
Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of again:  G3KZU, G3YHV . . .
Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT:  G3U= NT, G3VTT, G4GDR. . .

MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED

With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the same= stations many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of my total contact= s.
My most frequently worked stations are:

GW3UEP - 120     G3KEV - 102   &nbs= p;  M0FMT - 90     G3ZWH  -  80  (alas= now SK)
G3DXZ    -   67     G4GDR -   60      EI0CF/ GI4DPE  -&n= bsp; 51   M0JXM - 48
G3UNT    -   45     G3VTT=   -   38

CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS

There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a cros= s-band QSO:
DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . .

and our few EU MF friends are still active:
ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . .

WSPR ON 600m

I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for the= WSPR mode was never achieved for  hand sent Morse (CW), which after all is= the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF marine band.
If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stations= operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band then I guess= it may be time for me to QSY.

73 Chris G3XIZ






 

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Hi Lubos J-P LF
Also here signal from XKO
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
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K68l9dcVM1ni97ZVZA_oi0eduBaxQqFTNPOouu9Mu_9Pt6MMJ2CQyAqtIl4NDA6QEAKf_oqYRhHjSWQhiUF3na9wKqbYDIB0qIUog0jeAK4NpYUS.JBmXAbTgqbUpwHq6YxCi8sQb05vmYpM3LexpxEHoHpGAqpNrQt0ZXdlEenaNfX58vfeBEpfErQEZ21qtioSRyYfEvcrOe0c4hiuBzuE5tGtY7C_r4bCjwmJmNfh0btK8TvvCmo9_VKvCkAp5lUwPwmU6mXi7F5hr54RqEP_tITA1Ui6_Ma7fPppnTWKb.Nvi71OeuSjpqGYllI2SlRwuhuwk4oE9w-- Received: from [86.140.72.194] by web28104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:42:19 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:42:19 -0800 (PST) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <20091118085815.7282031E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1037354559-1258537339=:43526" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d226.1 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-1037354559-1258537339=:43526 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Rik and LF =A0 In Jim's case he has two sidebands indicative of AM modulation and you are= right they are about 30 odd dBs down on the carrier. Not too bad suppress= ion by 1950's standards.... hee hee. Where only one side band is reported= on the data base is probably becuase the reporting station is having the= =A0 (say) lower side band clipped by having a slightly high dial frequency= offset. =A0 I have some JPEG files for the test we did yesterday if you would like to= see them I will send off reflector. You may see something that could help= Jim solve this issue. =A0 73 petefmt --- On Wed, 18/11/09, Rik Strobbe wrote: From: Rik Strobbe Subject: Re: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 8:58 Hello Jim, LF group, I have noticed "double receptions" of my WSPR signal from a number of=20 stations. When it occurred the ghost signal was always 100Hz higher=20 and was 33-36dB weaker. As the frequency shift and signal strength difference was the same at=20 the different RX stations I conclude that the cause was with me. I think that it is just some AM modulation in the PA caused by the=20 100Hz ripple of the PSU. 73, Rik=A0 ON7YD - OR7T At 02:13 18/11/2009, you wrote: >Dear Jim LF Group, > >Looking at the sidebands on the G7NKS WSPR signals, mains hum or other no= ise >by itself is not a sufficient explanation of what is seen. Simply adding >50Hz, 150Hz, etc. noise into the PC audio channel, then feeding the resul= t >into an SSB TX would give unwanted CW at frequencies offset from the SSB >carrier frequency by +/-50Hz, 150Hz and so on, i.e. with the carrier "dia= l >frequency" at 502.4kHz, unmodulated carriers would appear at 502.45kHz, >502.55kHz and so on, in addition to the WSPR signal at around 503.9kHz. >However, these would probably largely be removed by the SSB filter in the >rig. Instead, we see unwanted sidebands offset from the wanted WSPR signa= l >frequency by +/- 50Hz, 150Hz, with identical modulation to the wanted >signal. This requires some sort of non-linear process to cause the >intermodulation between the presumed mains noise and the WSPR signal >somewhere in the TX chain. > >One possibility is that intermodulation occurs in the PA. Jim's descripti= on >suggests that he is persuading the HF PA in the IC735 to produce output= at >500k. At this frequency, the PA linearity may well be poor due to the >impedance matching, coupling, decoupling and feedback components in the= PA >being wrong for the frequency, and high flux densities occuring in ferrit= e >components due to the low operating frequency. But this wouldn't explain= why >Jim also gets multiple received signals from a strong station with a clea= n >signal, which implies some identical noise source and distortion in the >receive path. It would also mean the mains noise getting through the >filtering in the rig somehow. > >A possibility that would explain the unwanted sidebands appearing on both= TX >and RX signals is if one of the oscillators in the system has mains noise >sidebands. The sound card clock seems unlikely, since this is just a simp= le >crystal oscillator. I see the IC735 has some sort of multi-loop PLL >synthesiser, which would certainly be prone to this type of spurious sign= al, >since any kind of mains noise getting in would modulate the VCO frequenci= es, >and would probably be the same on transmit and receive. This could be >checked by receiving a clean carrier somewhere around 500kHz, and examini= ng >the audio output using Spec Lab or Argo or similar to see if 50Hz and 150= Hz >sidebands are present on the received audio tone. > >Cheers, Jim Moritz >73 de M0BMU > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "James Cowburn" >To: >Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:26 PM >Subject: LF: rule #2 - assumption is the brother of all foul ups > > > > LF > > > > > > > > Sidebands are back!=A0 I think its caused by my TX getting hot and bot= hered > > by > > struggling at 500.=A0 From cold it txs 50 watts but this soon drops ba= ck to > > around 35, and the sidebands appear.=A0 My sigs are better so having= the > > txfr > > outside the shack and at the antenna is a vast improvement, but I now= need > > to work on the cooling. =20 --0-1037354559-1258537339=:43526 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am with Mal.  WSPR has no place on the UK 501 / 504= Kc/s=20 Amateur Communication Band. The Norwegian Licenc= e has got=20 it right - CW only!
 
73 petefmt 

--- On Sat, 21/11/0= 9, Andy -=20 KU4XR <ku4xr@ya= hoo.com>=20 wrote:

From:=20 Andy - KU4XR <= ku4xr@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re:=20 LF: WSPR BEACONS
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date:=20 Saturday, 21 November, 2009, 0:01

--- On Fri, 11/20/09, mal hamilton=20 wrote:

    ******    snippet =  =20 ******

> a cw QSO operator in real time can qsy to= take=20 evasive
> action and avoid qrm to others on adjacent=20 frequencies.
> G3KEV

    ***** end snip= pet =20   ******

By Jove !! is it possible that he finally= " GOT IT=20 " ???
heavens to wonders !!

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr -= =20 Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 185.29866 KHz ( QR= SS-60=20 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3'= 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


---= On Fri,=20 11/20/09, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>=20 wrote:

> From: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.= net>
>=20 Subject: LF: WSPR BEACONS
> To: "rsgb" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>=20 Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 2:58 PM
>
>
= > =20
> 
>
>
> 
> These= =20 unattended Beacons
> are often a source of QRM
>= for the=20 CW QSO operator, whereas a cw QSO operator in
> rea= l time can=20 qsy to
> take evasive action and avoid qrm to others on= adjacent=20
> frequencies.
> G3KEV
>  
>=20




Hi Rik and LF
 
In Jim's case he has two sidebands indicative of AM modulation and yo= u are right they are about 30 odd dBs down on the carrier. Not too bad sup= pression by 1950's standards.... hee hee. Where only one side band is repo= rted on the data base is probably becuase the reporting station is having= the  (say) lower side band clipped by having a slightly high dial fr= equency offset.
 
I have some JPEG files for the test we did yesterday if you would lik= e to see them I will send off reflector. You may see something that could= help Jim solve this issue.
 
73 petefmt

--- On Wed, 18/11/09, Rik Strobbe <rik.str= obbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote:

From: Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven= .be>
Subject: Re: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands
To: "rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Date: Wednesday, 18 No= vember, 2009, 8:58

Hello Jim, LF group,

I have noticed "double= receptions" of my WSPR signal from a number of
stations. When it occu= rred the ghost signal was always 100Hz higher
and was 33-36dB weaker.<= BR>As the frequency shift and signal strength difference was the same at=
the different RX stations I conclude that the cause was with me.
I= think that it is just some AM modulation in the PA caused by the
100H= z ripple of the PSU.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


At 02:13= 18/11/2009, you wrote:
>Dear Jim LF Group,
>
>Looking= at the sidebands on the G7NKS WSPR signals, mains hum or other noise
&= gt;by itself is not a sufficient explanation of what is seen. Simply addin= g
>50Hz, 150Hz, etc. noise into the PC audio channel, then feeding= the result
>into an SSB TX would give unwanted CW at frequencies of= fset from the SSB
>carrier frequency by +/-50Hz, 150Hz and so on, i.= e. with the carrier "dial
>frequency" at 502.4kHz, unmodulated carriers would= appear at 502.45kHz,
>502.55kHz and so on, in addition to the WSPR= signal at around 503.9kHz.
>However, these would probably largely= be removed by the SSB filter in the
>rig. Instead, we see unwanted= sidebands offset from the wanted WSPR signal
>frequency by +/- 50Hz= , 150Hz, with identical modulation to the wanted
>signal. This requi= res some sort of non-linear process to cause the
>intermodulation be= tween the presumed mains noise and the WSPR signal
>somewhere in the= TX chain.
>
>One possibility is that intermodulation occurs= in the PA. Jim's description
>suggests that he is persuading the HF= PA in the IC735 to produce output at
>500k. At this frequency, the= PA linearity may well be poor due to the
>impedance matching, coupl= ing, decoupling and feedback components in the PA
>being wrong for= the frequency, and high flux densities occuring in ferrite
>components due to the= low operating frequency. But this wouldn't explain why
>Jim also ge= ts multiple received signals from a strong station with a clean
>sig= nal, which implies some identical noise source and distortion in the
&g= t;receive path. It would also mean the mains noise getting through the
= >filtering in the rig somehow.
>
>A possibility that would= explain the unwanted sidebands appearing on both TX
>and RX signals= is if one of the oscillators in the system has mains noise
>sideban= ds. The sound card clock seems unlikely, since this is just a simple
&g= t;crystal oscillator. I see the IC735 has some sort of multi-loop PLL
&= gt;synthesiser, which would certainly be prone to this type of spurious si= gnal,
>since any kind of mains noise getting in would modulate the= VCO frequencies,
>and would probably be the same on transmit and re= ceive. This could be
>checked by receiving a clean carrier somewhere aroun= d 500kHz, and examining
>the audio output using Spec Lab or Argo or= similar to see if 50Hz and 150Hz
>sidebands are present on the rece= ived audio tone.
>
>Cheers, Jim Moritz
>73 de M0BMU
&= gt;
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "James Cowbur= n" <james.cowburn= @virgin.net>
>To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>Sent:= Monday, November 16, 2009 8:26 PM
>Subject: LF: rule #2 - assumptio= n is the brother of all foul ups
>
>
> > LF
>= >
> >
> >
> > Sidebands are back!  I= think its caused by my TX getting hot and bothered
> > by
> > struggling at 50= 0.  From cold it txs 50 watts but this soon drops back to
> >= ; around 35, and the sidebands appear.  My sigs are better so having= the
> > txfr
> > outside the shack and at the antenna= is a vast improvement, but I now need
> > to work on the cooling= .



=20 --0-1037354559-1258537339=:43526-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME104-99d4b005a4b2bd; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:45:23 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME021-99d4b005a4b2bd; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:45:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9l1S-0000pB-Io for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:44:30 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9l1S-0000p1-4v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:44:30 +0000 Received: from mailout01.t-online.de ([194.25.134.80]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9l1Q-00014t-Hn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:44:30 +0000 Received: from fwd06.aul.t-online.de by mailout01.t-online.de with smtp id 1N9l1P-0005dC-06; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:44:27 +0100 Received: from e7010 (G57s58ZCZhw4forvgzvRP2PQaN97RxkYMrQK6HwNTZNq8FL7coGWfDx5Y1qe6J4g35@[84.147.204.191]) by fwd06.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1N9l1L-1eZW520; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:44:23 +0100 Message-ID: <006d01ca662c$07906c20$6402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: References: <000a01ca65ec$16f199e0$6402a8c0@e7010> <4B0027F5.3060603@xs4all.nl> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:44:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: G57s58ZCZhw4forvgzvRP2PQaN97RxkYMrQK6HwNTZNq8FL7coGWfDx5Y1qe6J4g35 X-TOI-MSGID: c23cf2f0-2feb-47de-ad45-d8e60c33db33 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: DI2AG WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Tnx, dear Ko, fer this early report. 73 Walter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ko Versteeg" To: Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 5:10 PM Subject: Re: LF: DI2AG WSPR > Walter und Marianne Staubach wrote: > > Dear MF, > > DI2AG is already on air in WSPR. QRG 505.090KHz, PWR 0.4W ERP. > > Duty cycle 33%. The beacon will be busy until tomorrow morning. > > 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF > > Walter > 1546 -28 1.4 0.505089 0 DI2AG JN59 27 > 73 de Ko, NL9222 > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb04.mx.aol.com (rly-mb04.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.162]) by air-mb05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB052-cfd4affeae412; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:49:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB041-cfd4affeae412; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:49:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9dbC-0006Rh-8V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:48:54 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9dbB-0006RY-JA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:48:53 +0000 Received: from col0-omc1-s6.col0.hotmail.com ([65.55.34.16]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9dbA-0007M7-2H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:48:53 +0000 Received: from COL122-W63 ([65.55.34.8]) by col0-omc1-s6.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:48:38 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:48:38 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <001601ca65e4$76cd10e0$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> References: <001601ca65e4$76cd10e0$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Nov 2009 11:48:38.0593 (UTC) FILETIME=[92122B10:01CA65E9] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_6188073b-44de-43e3-a145-be4ca8baa81c_" Subject: RE: LF: hello LUBOS X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_6188073b-44de-43e3-a145-be4ca8baa81c_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Claude, LF! OK, I am pleased to made this FB QSO on 137kHz. Your signal was very nice,= congratulation! Have a nice weekend! Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS From: f8boj@club-internet.fr To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:12:04 +0100 Subject: LF: hello LUBOS HI LUBOS LF Group Many thanks for qso lubos ur MM in JN16WA good sunday for ALL Claude F8boj =20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: Zjedodu=B9te si ka=BEdodenn=ED =FAkoly. Kter=FD po=E8=EDta=E8= je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD? http://windows.microsoft.com/shop=3D --_6188073b-44de-43e3-a145-be4ca8baa81c_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Claude, LF!
OK, I am pleased to made this FB QSO on 137kHz. Your= signal was very nice, congratulation!
Have a nice weekend!

Lubo= s, OK2BVG, JN88KS


From: f8boj@club-inte= rnet.fr
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:1= 2:04 +0100
Subject: LF: hello LUBOS

HI LUBOS LF Group
Many thanks for qso lubos ur MM
in JN16WA
good sunday for ALL
Claude F8boj
=
Windows 7: Zjedodu=B9te si ka=BEdodenn=ED =FAkoly.= Kter=FD po= =E8=EDta=E8 je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD? =3D --_6188073b-44de-43e3-a145-be4ca8baa81c_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc12.mx.aol.com (rly-mc12.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.96]) by air-mc06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC064-daa4b05d6003a9; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:34:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC122-daa4b05d6003a9; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:34:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBGVB-0003pg-Sz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:33:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBGVB-0003pW-CK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:33:25 +0000 Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com ([205.188.105.143]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBGV9-00036G-RQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:33:25 +0000 Received: from imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (imo-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.138]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nAJNX5O1026529 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:33:05 -0500 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id l.cbe.4f47370d (32913) for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:33:02 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:33:01 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: F4DTL@aol.com X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: WD2XSH/10 on 506.750 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_cbe.4f47370d.38372fad_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --part1_cbe.4f47370d.38372fad_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1258673580" -------------------------------1258673580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Hello Dex, TEN !!! =20 =20 F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC756 Pro Ant: 10m tuned MF vertical Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 19/11/2009 23:37:40 Paris, Madrid, dmcintyre@att.= net=20 a =E9crit : Now for a real challenge look for WD2XSH/10 on 506.750 sending "TEN" at= =20 QRSS10 =20 speed. Will let it run all night. 73, Dex -------------------------------1258673580 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= FONT id=3Drole_document color=3D#000000 size=3D2 face=3DArial>
Hello Dex, TEN !!!
 
 
F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP

RX : Icom IC756 Pro
Ant: 10m= tuned=20 MF vertical
 
 
Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 19/11/2009 23:37:40 Paris, Madrid, dmcintyre= @att.net=20 a =E9crit :
N= ow for=20 a real challenge look for WD2XSH/10 on 506.750 sending "TEN" at QRSS10= =20
speed.  Will let it run all=20 night.

73,
Dex
 
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post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01CA70F9.F5FD5B70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes series for more V parallel for more I(amps) and preferable some= R and C across each except they are really identical. mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: David Towers=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 12:37 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv diode Hi Mal surely "in series" to give a 4 KV diode at 1amp ? dave G8SZX mal hamilton wrote:=20 Ken On the serious side, use 6 x 1Kvolt @ 1A in parallel if u are stuc= k. Don't get zapped=20 73 mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:28 AM Subject: LF: Re: 4kv diode=20 Electric Chair Co Zapenda Cul de sac Hellda State Zip73 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ken=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:04 AM Subject: LF: 4kv diode=20 Hello All. I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or equivalent diode, BY4 4kv= @ 1A, BY6 6kv @ 1A, I have searched the web and looked in Farnell,= any ideas please. 73. Ken M0KHW =20 ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01CA70F9.F5FD5B70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes series for more V  parallel= for more=20 I(amps) and preferable some R and C across each except they are really= =20 identical.
mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 David Towers
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 20= 09 12:37=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv= diode

Hi Mal
surely "in series" to give a 4 KV diode at= 1amp=20 ?
dave G8SZX



mal hamilton wrote:=20
Ken
On the serious side, use 6 x 1Kvo= lt @ 1A in=20 parallel if u are stuck.
Don't get zapped
73 mal/g3kev
 
-----=20 Original Message -----
From:=20 mal hamilton
Sent:=20 Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:28 AM
Subject:=20 LF: Re: 4kv diode

Electric Chair Co
Zapenda Cul de sac
Hellda State
Zip73
 
-----=20 Original Message -----
From:=20 Ken=20
Sent:=20 Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:04 AM
Subject:=20 LF: 4kv diode

Hello All.
I am looking for a BY4 or BY6= or equivalent=20 diode, BY4   4kv @ 1A, BY6  6kv @ 1A, I have se= arched the=20 web and looked in Farnell, any ideas please.
 
73.
Ken
 
M0KHW  &nbs= p;

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------=_NextPart_000_000A_01CA6B67.1B8D77A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df12.mx.aol.com (rly-df12.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.25]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF034-5934b00571826a; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:31:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF122-5934b00571826a; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:31:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9kny-0000Zl-H4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:30:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9kny-0000Zc-21 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:30:34 +0000 Received: from mx40.mail.ru ([94.100.176.54]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9knx-0002cX-Ce for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:30:34 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=29865 helo=EFREMOV) by mx40.mail.ru with asmtp id 1N9knr-000FwT-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:30:27 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <003e01ca662a$1592c400$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: References: <000a01ca65ec$16f199e0$6402a8c0@e7010> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:30:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: Re: DI2AG WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Walter, 1920 -27 1.8 0.505089 DI2AG JN59 27 1926 -28 1.7 0.505089 DI2AG JN59 27 73 Andrey Dear MF, DI2AG is already on air in WSPR. QRG 505.090KHz, PWR 0.4W ERP. Duty cycle 33%. The beacon will be busy until tomorrow morning. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (rly-mg04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.110]) by air-mg05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG053-a0a4af71b9327f; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:27:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG044-a0a4af71b9327f; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:27:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7DOb-0008RJ-BY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:25:53 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7DOa-0008RA-QX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:25:52 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7DNd-00023G-Ok for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:24:54 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 08 Nov 2009 19:25:44 -0000 Received: from p5DD34CC5.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO Clemens04) [93.211.76.197] by mail.gmx.net (mp032) with SMTP; 08 Nov 2009 20:25:44 +0100 X-Authenticated: #17214767 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18PFhwtd4YPaiL1RtJDeiqKEa6/IoflmvU2sVOWPG /cFlotdhZXI+ab Message-ID: <020b01ca60a9$4495adc0$0201a8c0@Clemens04> From: "Clemens Paul" To: References: <027601ca60a2$841cd150$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:23:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.5600000000000001 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Mal, >WSPR reports amongst stns indicate reception reports usually minus dB. Most of these > stations are usually PLUS >dB with me or very close to that figure. WSPR refers the indicated SNR to a BW of 2,4kHz. So if your receiving BW is say 100Hz your actual SNR is better by ~14dB than WSPR reports. >A trace of the signal is visible long before a decode takes place, therefore why >not use QRS in >the first place. This may be an issue of your RX/soundcard setup. I can assure you that with my Perseus SDR RX,set to a RBW of less than one Hertz for the display,I can decode every WSPR signal which shows even only a faint trace on the waterfall diagram. At least this is my experience so far. 73 Clemens DL4RAJ ----- Original Message ----- From: mal hamilton To: rsgb Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 7:37 PM Subject: LF: WSPR WSPR reports amongst stns indicate reception reports usually minus dB. Most of these stations are usually PLUS dB with me or very close to that figure. So what does that prove. I would say it depends on the RX antenna and not necessarily propagation. A large antenna yields better results than a small loop or active whip. When I switch from my 1/4 wave inv L for 500 khz to a smaller 40 m resonated loop for 500 the signals then do go down to a minus db figure. So what is all this all ABOUT ? There is also the TX pwr to consider. Two transmitters from the same location one using QRO and the other QRP will be received at different levels at a specified RX location. There is a lot of misrepresentation and misleading information by WSPR operator A trace of the signal is visible long before a decode takes place, therefore why not use QRS in the first place. G3KEV No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.55/2489 - Release Date: 11/08/09 07:37:00 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md09.mx.aol.com (rly-md09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.147]) by air-md02.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMD023-9244b0e5b7222c; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:42:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD094-9244b0e5b7222c; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:41:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDbmD-0003SX-Lp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:40:41 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDbmD-0003SO-43 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:40:41 +0000 Received: from out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.240]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDbmB-0004BB-CN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:40:41 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ar8EAFLqDUtcHB30/2dsb2JhbACCT4ZOhHsGxhOEMgQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,292,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="117520378" Received: from unknown (HELO your91hoehfy9g) ([92.28.29.244]) by out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 26 Nov 2009 10:40:16 +0000 Message-ID: <000e01ca6e84$d86c8710$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:40:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: CLASS E Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA6E84.D83830A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA6E84.D83830A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MF and Co Getting suitable capacitors is the problem, not normally available fro= m the junk box. Maybe a class F amp is the answer or the mechanical G turbo charged ru= moured to be over 100% efficient G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA6E84.D83830A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
MF and Co
Getting suitable capacitors is the pr= oblem, not=20 normally available from the junk box.
Maybe a class F amp is the answer or= the mechanical=20 G turbo charged rumoured to be over 100% efficient
G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA6E84.D83830A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de10.mx.aol.com (rly-de10.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.146]) by air-de06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE062-50c4b00206f203; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:38:33 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE107-50c4b00206f203; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:38:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9hA5-0007EN-SL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:37:09 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9hA5-0007EE-3p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:37:09 +0000 Received: from out1.ip02ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.238]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9hA3-0008HP-30 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:37:09 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqIEADau/0pOlIcr/2dsb2JhbACCT4FqiVsGw2+EPAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,746,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="99194529" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.135.43]) by out1.ip02ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 15 Nov 2009 15:36:43 +0000 Message-ID: <040901ca6609$73095250$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "Roger Lapthorn" Cc: "rsgb" References: <9afca2640911150409x1389fd48q451284c2e0ee43d5@mail.gmail.com> <03a301ca65ee$020ae250$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <9afca2640911150509x387471dcxa7e5ffa73e8ec9cb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:36:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: G3XBM on CW at noon? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0406_01CA6609.72922680" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0406_01CA6609.72922680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pleased u made it to Scarborough, good Q5 but weak. No need for wspr.= Lots of other CW acty on band today, hpe u work some more. 73 gud dxing mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Roger Lapthorn=20 To: mal hamilton=20 Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 1:09 PM Subject: Re: G3XBM on CW at noon? Many thanks Mal for my very first 2-way 500kHz CW QSO. You've good= ears my friend! 73s Roger G3XBM 2009/11/15 mal hamilton Well Roger u made it to Scarborough on CW, solid copy Q5 but I dou= bt if WSPR would have decoded your signal. Tnx the 569 good DX ing 73 de mal/g3kev=20 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Roger Lapthorn=20 To: g3kevmal@talktalk.net=20 Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 12:09 PM Subject: G3XBM on CW at noon? Think you may have heard me on 500kHz around noon Mal. You calle= d "QRZ G3X"several times but failed to get me. Will try again. 73s Roger G3XBM (2mW ERP) --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 ----------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.65/2503 - Release Date= : 11/14/09 19:42:00 --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.65/2503 - Release Date: 11= /14/09 19:42:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0406_01CA6609.72922680 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Pleased u made it to Scarborough, goo= d Q5 but weak.=20 No need for wspr. Lots of other CW acty on band today, hpe u work some= =20 more.
73 gud dxing mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
To: mal hamilton
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 20= 09 1:09=20 PM
Subject: Re: G3XBM on CW at= noon?

Many thanks Mal for my very first 2-way 500kHz CW QSO= . You've=20 good ears my friend!

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/11/15 mal hamilton <= ;g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
Well Roger u made it to Scarborou= gh on CW,=20 solid copy Q5 but I doubt if WSPR would have decoded you= r=20 signal.
Tnx the 569
good DX ing
73 de mal/g3kev 
  
-----=20 Original Message -----
Sent:=20 Sunday, November 15, 2009 12:09 PM
Subject:=20 G3XBM on CW at noon?

Think you may have heard me on 500kHz arou= nd noon=20 Mal. You called "QRZ G3X"several times but failed to get me.
=
Will=20 try again.

73s
Roger G3XBM (2mW ERP)
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G3XBM    GQRP 1678=20      ISWL G11088


No virus found in this incoming message.
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------=_NextPart_000_0406_01CA6609.72922680-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me05.mx.aol.com (rly-me05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.39]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME041-9bc4b0147062e4; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:35:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME058-9bc4b0147062e4; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:35:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA0mk-0004xK-7M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:34:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA0mj-0004xB-By for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:34:21 +0000 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net ([165.212.64.32]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA0mi-00072w-0L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:34:21 +0000 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net (co02-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout02.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACA2D134137 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:34:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps02.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.138] by cmsout02.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.58V) with ESMTP id XID179NkPmIN5721X02; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:34:13 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.138 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps02.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID179NkPmIN5721X02 Received: from [192.168.1.3] [151.47.211.169] by cmsapps02.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.53P) with ESMTPA id 940NkPmIL9872M38; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:34:11 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.211.169 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.1.3] Message-ID: <4B0146C0.5090001@usa.net> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:34:08 +0100 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <957920.84927.qm@web28104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <957920.84927.qm@web28104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Z-USANET-MsgId: XID940NkPmIL9872X38 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: G7NKS - Double Side Band: wspr? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) M0FMT wrote: > OK too bad you can't resolve it with your existing Sound Card. > > When considering a USB SC think about SDR (the future of Ham Radio). > M-Audio is considered a good card but see M0KGK's site for comparison > with the Creative Labs Sound Blaster Live a cost effective solution > (these are still available although production I believe has now ceased). > http://www.m0kgk.co.uk/sdr/soundcards.php If somebody is in search of a good external USB audio adapter, this one is very good. I have one and I am satisfied with it, Can be found at less than 100 Euro. http://tinyurl.com/27sgj4 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df11.mx.aol.com (rly-df11.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.24]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF052-58d4affe5c01e4; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:28:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF116-58d4affe5c01e4; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:28:03 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9dG3-00063c-M5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:27:03 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9dG3-00063T-4U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:27:03 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9dG0-0007Cy-Q0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:27:03 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so4872007bwz.4 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:26:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=f+vF7TxzhfkOOSbMepTz34YtBDYxmXiuwpOE7/KH52c=; b=sFbqvo62MoGPMurxwU68FKvgH4tqmFf+ONQdGn4UvRjEdZJKSCOcXFvIHLaXJjDDlE 9iRPzIu8f1SGZYVcBosaEJloxwew46xSxi6lj+eLr7zybaowmk1apRrC1kttxyBjpPBG kxfQVjWhjLfKDmbF/KM26JWMFkbctaTvwtlKQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=rsZHylPsZ4S9HKbkOjsLPqUqtY7HYOO5QzxKv5vdQq9y/n2PVdK8QFBzJGpCP0ERkd CUNjA76TxZmu1kKtx/+tbpkWId1N0qPEXZeW9gZeXLincptQPopF6b7ZhZQ4lv8Y0lnE 1x5DhJWSdqzKjMI4+qHf8xe3f6TrwQzekVd/o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.145.149 with SMTP id s21mr670838hba.141.1258284414970; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:26:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1f0624b90911150244p1c8ccbd7p47cc3b33eb270b2@mail.gmail.com> References: <20091115112410.27d3dldtj44k4sk4@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <1f0624b90911150244p1c8ccbd7p47cc3b33eb270b2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:26:54 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Who / where is OR2ELN ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f724b694ac570478672b6e X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m217.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001485f724b694ac570478672b6e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 To get a false decode just once is down to the laws of probability. To get the same call twice means the is genuine. Who it is, is a completely different matter. Someone just hasn't done their setup properly. Isn't JJ at zero latitude, zero longitude ? Andy www.g4jnt.com this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny state 2009/11/15 Gary - G4WGT > Hi Rik, Graham, > > I also got false decode last night that looked genuine but searches > revealed nothing. > > 091114 1958 5 -28 0.5 0.503998 WE6HMU JJ11 20 0 560 -32 > 091114 1958 8 -22 -1.1 0.503999 WE6HMU JJ11 20 0 560 0 > > JJ11 also in the water but off the west coast of Africa, perhaps the pirate > has a fast boat :-)) > > Cheers, > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > 2009/11/15 Rik Strobbe > > Graham, >> >> the call OR2ELN does not exist >> if it is a pirate he is floating in the Indian Ocean somewhe half way >> between Madagascar and Heard Island. >> >> 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >> >> Quoting Graham : >> >> 2009-11-14 23:14 OR2ELN 0.503908 -33 0 >>> MF03 501 G0NBD IO83 11740 326 >>> >>> Just decoded ? >>> >>> tnx - G >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > --001485f724b694ac570478672b6e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
To get a false decode just once is down to=A0the laws of probability.=
=A0
To get the same call twice means the <signal received> is genui= ne.=A0
Who it is, is a completely different matter.=A0Someone just hasn'= t done their setup properly.=A0=A0
Isn't JJ at zero latitude, zero longitude ?

Andy
www.g4jnt.= com

this email has been scanned for political correctness by th= e nanny state


2009/11/15 Gary - G4WGT <<= a href=3D"mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk">g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
Hi Rik, Graham,=20

I also got false decode last night that looked genuine but searches= revealed nothing.

091114 1958 =A0 5 -28 =A00.5 =A0 0.503998 =A0WE6HMU JJ11 20 =A0 =A0= =A0 =A0 =A00 =A0 560 =A0-32
091114 1958 =A0 8 -22 -1.1 =A0 0.503999 =A0WE6HMU JJ11 20 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0 =A00 =A0 560 =A0 =A00

JJ11 also in the water but off the west coast of Africa, perhaps the= pirate has a fast boat :-))

Cheers,

Gary - G4WGT.


2009/11/15 Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe= @fys.kuleuven.be>=20

Graham,

the call OR2ELN= does not exist
if it is a pirate he is floating in the Indian Ocean so= mewhe half way between Madagascar and Heard Island.

73, Rik =A0ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:<= br>
=A02009-11-14 23:14 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0OR2ELN =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A00.503908 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-33 =A0 =A0 0 =A0= =A0 =A0 MF03 =A0 =A0501 =A0 =A0 G0NBD =A0 IO83 =A0 =A011740 =A0 326

Just =A0decoded ?

tnx - G





<= br>


--001485f724b694ac570478672b6e-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB031-ae74b007c5558; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:10:43 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB095-ae74b007c5558; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:10:31 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9nHx-0002Fe-JN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:09:41 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9nHx-0002FT-4M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:09:41 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9nHv-0001rV-Dm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:09:41 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3542.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 10A091C00081 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:09:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3542.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id F33EB1C00083 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:09:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.53.205]) by mwinf3542.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id A92A01C00081 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:09:33 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091115220933693.A92A01C00081@mwinf3542.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <1A8E7857A7294C39AA873BDC76A001D8@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <1043CB7D895D4161B1C87CDD140332A2@AGB> <0CADF4DD71FD43A2A8384463754F6344@AGB> <4B005411.4010506@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <1C14999758D149228277CBBC2446F1D7@AGB> <4B006812.7010101@sighthound.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4B006812.7010101@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:09:32 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Running mW wspr Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Not a beep ... Set power to 200 mW as of 22-05 G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "John P-G" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 8:44 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Running mW wspr > > G > > 10dB might be a bit too much, your previous decodes were around > -25/-28dB here. Perhaps at some peaks of QSB, later in the night we > might still strike lucky. > > Am considering knocking up a transverter for 500kHz and replacing the MF > ATU out at the feedpoint (currently have an HF auto-atu there) to allow > me to radiate some signals on 500 again. > > Cheers, > > John > > > Graham wrote: >> 2334 45 mW drive to the antenna .. slight problem zeroing the >> meter as there is 60 uW of energy coming back in from the atu .... >> so thats about -10 dB down on the previous level >> >> G .. >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "John P-G" >> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 7:18 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: LF: Running mW wspr >> >>> >>> >>> >>> Graham wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Crazy system ..... spot just in from John ! >>> >>> >>> I thought your mW signal was meant to be a challenge, but of course >>> Roger's already discovered that WSPR will decode signals that you >>> can't hear, and are often so weak on a waterfall that QRSS3 would be a >>> struggle (despite what someone here repeatedly fails to comprehend) >>> >>> Can you go any lower? >>> >>> John >>> GM4SLV >>> >>> >> >> >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de01.mx.aol.com (rly-de01.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.137]) by air-de01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE011-4b14b090997b1; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:51:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE016-4b14b090997b1; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:51:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NC95W-0000xh-Te for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:50:34 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NC95W-0000xV-8X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:50:34 +0000 Received: from psmtp31.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.33]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NC95U-00036E-7J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:50:34 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp31.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KTI005RX8NTTP@psmtp31.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:50:18 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:50:06 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: SP2KDS 22-11.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_wiPu1Qk+moKUJd3T1I13eA)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --Boundary_(ID_wiPu1Qk+moKUJd3T1I13eA) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_nhZ7wdTbbODzsgaArUWWaQ)" --Boundary_(ID_nhZ7wdTbbODzsgaArUWWaQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi LF, nice copy SP2KDS, Henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: SP2KDS 22-11.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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Hi LF,
nice copy SP2KDS,
Henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
SP2KDS 22-11.jpg

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multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003A_01CA71BC.4355D790" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01CA71BC.4355D790 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_003B_01CA71BC.4355D790" ------=_NextPart_001_003B_01CA71BC.4355D790 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear LF group, since DCF39 got a new transmitter in April 2007, the 137 kHz band has= been plagued by increased interference from it's excessively wide FSK= switching sidebands. Viewed from here, they extend down to below 136.= 9 kHz on a quiet day. There are a few narrow gaps around baudrate mult= iples from the carrier, which can provide clean lanes for narrowband= modes. Recently I noticed a subtile change in the shape of the spectrum (see= screenshot). In addition to the 10 Hz wide gaps at n x 200 Hz from th= e active (space) frequency 139.17 kHz (ie. at 137.77, 137,57, 137.37= ... kHz), there are now additional, slightly wider gaps grouped aroun= d the idle (mark) frequency 138.83 kHz (ie. at 137.83, 137.63, 137.43= ...). This is apparently related to a small modification in the timin= g of the transmitted serial data bytes (one start bit, nine data bits,= one stop bit). The data bits have always been exactly 5.0 ms long, bu= t the duration of the stop interval used to be slightly longer (5.31= ms). This has now been changed to 5.0 ms as well. Most of the transmitted data actually are 16 byte timestamps, which ar= e repeated every 11 seconds and used to synchronize the clocks in the= remote receivers. They now seem to be aligned to UTC time, with the= start bit commencing exactly 875 ms before the second, and the last= data bit ending on the GPS second pulse. Klaus Betke (DL4BBL) has der= ived the binary telegram format and published it on his former website= www.longwave.de. With this information, it should be possible to buil= d a DCF39 (as opposed to DCF77 or MSF) clock. There may also be new op= portunities for DCF39 phase extraction and sideband cancellation. The software noise blanker in Spectrum Lab can be configured to reduce= the impact of the DCF sidebands on QRSS reception. I found it advanta= geous to not suppress the complete telegrams, but only a short time ar= ound each of the individual FSK transition clicks. To do this, you wil= l have to feed the soundcard without enough bandwidth (at least 1 kHz)= to contain the clicks, but not the carrier frequency (138.83 kHz). Th= en you can optimize the noise blanker threshold (9 dB) and ramptime se= ttings (2.5 ms, short enough to retain most of the signal, but long en= ough to restrict the generation of new sidebands). Kind regards, Markus (DF6NM) ------=_NextPart_001_003B_01CA71BC.4355D790 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear LF group,
 
since DCF39 got a new transmitte= r in=20 April 2007, the 137 kHz band has been plagued by increased= =20 interference from it's excessively wide FSK switching=20 sidebands. Viewed from here, they extend down to below 136.9= kHz on a=20 quiet day. There are a few narrow gaps around baudrate multiples= from the=20 carrier, which can provide clean lanes for narrowband modes.
 
Recently I noticed a subtile change= in the shape of=20 the spectrum (see screenshot). In addition to the 10 Hz wide gaps at&n= bsp;n x=20 200 Hz from the active (space) frequency 139.17 kHz (ie. at 137.77, 13= 7,57,=20 137.37 ... kHz), there are now additional, slightly wider gaps gr= ouped=20 around the idle (mark) frequency 138.83 kHz (ie. at 137.83, 137.6= 3, 137.43=20 ...). This is apparently related to a small modification in the timing= of the=20 transmitted serial data bytes (one start bit, nine data bits, one= stop=20 bit). The data bits have always been exactly 5.0 ms long, but the dura= tion of=20 the stop interval used to be slightly longer (5.31 ms). This has= now been=20 changed to 5.0 ms as well.
 
Most of the transmitted data actually= are 16 byte=20 timestamps, which are repeated every 11 seconds and used to synchroniz= e the=20 clocks in the remote receivers. They now seem to be aligned to UTC=20 time, with the start bit commencing exactly 875 ms before the=20 second, and the last data bit ending on the GPS second pulse. Klaus Betke (DL4BBL) has derived the= binary telegram format=20 and published it on his former website www.longwave.de. With this information, it=20 should be possible to build a DCF39 (as opposed to DCF77 or MSF)= clock.=20 There may also be new opportunities for DCF39 phase extraction an= d sideband=20 cancellation.
 
The software noise blanker in Spectru= m Lab can be=20 configured to reduce the impact of the DCF sidebands on QRSS rece= ption. I=20 found it advantageous to not suppress the complete telegrams, but= =20 only a short time around each of the individual FSK transiti= on clicks.=20 To do this, you will have to feed the soundcard without enough bandwid= th (at=20 least 1 kHz) to contain the clicks, but not the carrier freq= uency=20 (138.83 kHz). Then you can optimize the noise blanker threshold= (9 dB) and=20 ramptime settings (2.5 ms, short enough to retain most of the&nbs= p;signal,=20 but long enough to restrict the generation of new sidebands).
 
Kind regards,
Markus (DF6NM)
 
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nAO0W6gO012923 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:02:06 -0330 Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:02:06 -0330 (NST) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" In-Reply-To: <4B0B096A.7040507@online.fr> Message-ID: References: <4B04EADA.4090707@telus.net> <57a24ca70911190525s5bbf2768gcfe5e7150eb8f784@mail.gmail.com> <20091121211012.fehyrbxl4400ckc8@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <4B0B096A.7040507@online.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: VX9MRC Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-1719232024-800113279-1259022726=:4587" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 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Oui des signaux sont vraiment forts. 73 Joe On Mon, 23 Nov 2009, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" wrote: > Hello Joe, > > This evening I listened to your beacon, it is too easy! =85. first blow= it is=20 > in limps! > > 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj > ---1719232024-800113279-1259022726=:4587-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (rly-dc04.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.33]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDC081-b194b0cf7eb1ce; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:25:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC045-b194b0cf7eb1ce; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:25:01 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDE6h-0001ek-Hd for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:24:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDE6g-0001eU-LV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:24:14 +0000 Received: from out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.242]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDE6f-00082T-Vh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:24:14 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAPeGDEtcGuLt/2dsb2JhbACCIi+LPgbIGIQ5BA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,285,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="263228941" Received: from unknown (HELO your91hoehfy9g) ([92.26.226.237]) by out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 25 Nov 2009 09:23:57 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01ca6db1$04873810$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:23:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Class E pa Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01CA6DB1.043FA7C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01CA6DB1.043FA7C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ref recent discussion on the subject. I use a class E pa on 500 kcs and never get any trouble. As a general guide use high voltage fets and the fet V should be rated= at about 5 times the supply V and current about 3 times. You arrive at class E by careful design not by accident.=20 Having designed and built the PA for the required power and load R usu= ally 50 ohms adjust into a DL for correct waveform as displayed on a= 'scope, this is important otherwise V spikes and instability will kil= l the fet.=20 Install a suitable antenna and match it with a suitable atu to 50 ohms= so when you connect the TX/PA to the antenna they both match. Check the wave form again and any slight mismatch should be adjusted= by the antenna atu and NOT the pa.=20 The load does not have to be 50 ohms but this is convenient when testi= ng with available test gear. High V fets give more realistic C and Inductor and R values. A good ra= nge for fets is a psu giving 40 - 100 volts ie fets 500volts and a sui= table current rating depending on your power. requirements ie if you= need to draw 5 amps the fet should be rated 15 amps. These are the general guidelines and work well for me. Most amateurs seem to use class D amps whereas class E are rare. de Mal/G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01CA6DB1.043FA7C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ref recent discussion on the subject.=
 
I use a class E pa on 500 kcs and nev= er get any=20 trouble.
As a general guide use high voltage= fets and the=20 fet V should be rated at  about 5 times the supply V and current= about 3=20 times.
You arrive at class E by careful desi= gn not by=20 accident.
Having designed and built the PA for= the required=20 power and load R usually 50 ohms adjust into a DL for correc= t waveform=20 as displayed on a 'scope, this is important otherwise V spikes and ins= tability=20 will kill the fet.
Install a suitable antenna and match= it with a=20 suitable atu to 50 ohms so when you connect the TX/PA to the antenna= they both=20 match.
Check the wave form again and any sli= ght mismatch=20 should be adjusted by the antenna atu and NOT the pa.
Th= e load does not=20 have to be 50 ohms but this is convenient when testing with available= test=20 gear.
High V fets give more realistic C and= Inductor and=20 R values. A good range for fets is a psu giving 40 - 100 volts ie fets= 500volts=20 and a suitable current rating depending on your power. requirements ie= if you=20 need to draw 5 amps the fet should be rated 15 amps.
These are the general guidelines and= work well for=20 me.
Most amateurs seem to use class D amp= s whereas=20 class E are rare.
 
de Mal/G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_0009_01CA6DB1.043FA7C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD043-b704b07d1363b2; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:38:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD042-b704b07d1363b2; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:38:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBoHW-0004kj-Oj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:37:34 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBoHW-0004ka-3i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:37:34 +0000 Received: from smtp823.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.19]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBoHU-0008L0-Kr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:37:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 1426 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2009 11:37:27 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Importance:X-MimeOLE; b=J/acRy2NYNA8LdFCCsmik66yTRDqu1n9cs1pEgFGFyJcblNNur0B6Qv0OAD0uTQFRU2nCMTZMmjJQGVMojgQZnnaGP+uc5ITctM3+AWDv1iiCRJK6ZN44d/kORTVAzDhd0JMZjWZlV5u/OLQBAOgJurTxfLdtzcDN1ZUr7AhqmY= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@81.153.225.112 with login) by smtp823.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 2009 11:37:27 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: JSvqNSWswBBXc9Mk_Vd71RtGz2bViJtuZMADdmi78eLqBj_R7.fL X-YMail-OSG: zMNYgvUVM1nHgO4rqCUDXrJjoiJJXMV4VYcBM42q.pzU4oZYBiwFpUssp_3vL1ssIHMKHcgfmLLpmoO.5n5mWO848xWLvTVS5ytRrj.FMDkN3JcL9GqWqUwS5D5sYzog3yWepofCVLjWxHxZZDdJ0MiV3nNQIZilBKky59Oniv5EENJcBMdL8xT.wB2nrgkD9qxxv_k3x0QmuKoJRKw6oWX_SVTzHaVElZ5uqJHXieYgl4l2GjXWld_Iehd5GCxRI7SYopUIyu_msYzNiosS4yE9zXTYKTcK2kAh82jsvxsdoHa_kzEyTPRE8silTey6hxhLp69Ru51oQI4f9JB1g6sDp6Ot1Qig4i8DsSvaeaJZ9.Px9bmlnML0Kw-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:37:52 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <8E115927716E4640BE76583239937818@DennisPC> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: [500 khz] M0JXM... Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0019_01CA6A9F.0F625F90" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_40_50, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01CA6A9F.0F625F90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Dennis. Your signals are RST 579 here this morning. I can also hear G3DXZ at 349/QSB, but he's sending too fast for reliable copy at this end. My antenna is a 20m long double wire "tee" at 5m, and the RX is a W&G SPM-30 with a tuned J310 pre-amp. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, s.e. England -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of DENNIS EASTERLING Sent: 18 November 2009 17:16 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Lost QSO Hello Mal Sorry if I left you in the lurch 16.5 today, after giving you a report 599 something happened and a single frequency signal came up on top of you and slowly drifted down frequency, perhaps someone tuning? Better luck next time. 73 Dennis M0JXM ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01CA6A9F.0F625F90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,=20 Dennis.
 
Your=20 signals are RST 579 here this morning. I can also hear G3DXZ at 349/QS= B, but=20 he's sending too fast for reliable copy at this end.
 
My antenna is a 20m long=20 double wire "tee" at 5m, and the RX is a W&G SPM-30 with a tuned= J310=20 pre-amp. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, s.e= .=20 England
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of DENNI= S=20 EASTERLING
Sent: 18 November 2009 17:16
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Lost=20 QSO

Hello Mal
 
Sorry if I left you in the lurch&nb= sp; 16.5=20 today, after giving you a report 599 something happened and a single= =20 frequency signal came up on top of you and slowly drifted down= frequency,=20 perhaps someone tuning?
 
Better luck next time.
 
73 Dennis=20 M0JXM
------=_NextPart_000_0019_01CA6A9F.0F625F90-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB062-ae24afddbe4248; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:21:46 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB088-ae24afddbe4248; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:21:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N94VP-0005yO-As for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:20:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N94VO-0005yF-VR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:20:34 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N94VO-0001QF-B0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:20:34 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.4] (rx1.twatt.home [192.168.1.4]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59EE83B4D8 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:20:33 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4AFDDBB1.3060000@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:20:33 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <016001ca64a7$959b4f20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <016001ca64a7$959b4f20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Proper morse Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) mal hamilton wrote: > Could the said person be a WSPR PIRATE ? Well, my NoV is actually for A1A Telegraphy, and I've never radiated anything other than that mode. I have NEVER transmitted WSPR on 500kHz, so I guess I couldn't be considered a WSPR PIRATE. You must be thinking of someone else? This doesn't mean I'm not happy to help others in their studies of alternative modes. Anyone who decries "beacon modes" and "appliance operation" - and who claims to only use "QSO mode" - really should restrict themselves to hand sent CW using real "proper" CW, don't you think? Once such a person has been seen and heard to use an "appliance" to generate their CW and QRSS signals (we've ALL heard the interminable CQ calls... obviously not hand generated, and sent with no intention to listen for replies), in the hope of being received on a distant grabber, with no hope of a 2-way QSO, then I believe they forfeit any moral authority to lecture the rest of us as to how we should conduct our experimental activities. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (rly-mf02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.172]) by air-mf02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF024-9444b003404260; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:02:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF022-9444b003404260; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:01:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9iTP-0007q5-2n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:01:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9iTO-0007pw-KB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:01:10 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9iTN-0001tT-3B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:01:10 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id D50087B802A for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:00:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2356F3862 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:00:57 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id 5CE4218056; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:00:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from 92.141-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (92.141-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.247.141.92]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:00:57 +0100 Message-ID: <20091115180057.lsnsg12qw0oocokg@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:00:57 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <9afca2640911150409x1389fd48q451284c2e0ee43d5@mail.gmail.com> <03a301ca65ee$020ae250$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <9afca2640911150509x387471dcxa7e5ffa73e8ec9cb@mail.gmail.com> <040901ca6609$73095250$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <041601ca660c$2c6b9850$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <9afca2640911150825q1d827944p7486ccc38d0676e6@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9afca2640911150825q1d827944p7486ccc38d0676e6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.247.141.92 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: G3XBM on CW at noon? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Roger, if you are QRV in CW tonight I will watch out for you (starting 20UTC). 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting Roger Lapthorn : > Just worked Chris G3XIZ Mal. > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > 2009/11/15 mal hamilton > > PS > G3XBM nw cq at 1550 utc. Other stns on band. Am I the only one that =20 > can copy him ? > g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: mal hamilton > To: Roger Lapthorn > Cc: rsgb > Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 3:36 PM > Subject: LF: Re: G3XBM on CW at noon? > > Pleased u made it to Scarborough, good Q5 but weak. No need for =20 > wspr. Lots of other CW acty on band today, hpe u work some more. > 73 gud dxing mal/g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Roger Lapthorn > To: mal hamilton > Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 1:09 PM > Subject: Re: G3XBM on CW at noon? > > Many thanks Mal for my very first 2-way 500kHz CW QSO. You've good =20 > ears my friend! > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > 2009/11/15 mal hamilton > > Well Roger u made it to Scarborough on CW, solid copy Q5 but I doubt =20 > if WSPR would have decoded your signal. > Tnx the 569 > good DX ing > 73 de mal/g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Roger Lapthorn > To: g3kevmal@talktalk.net > Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 12:09 PM > Subject: G3XBM on CW at noon? > > Think you may have heard me on 500kHz around noon Mal. You called =20 > "QRZ G3X"several times but failed to get me. > > Will try again. > > 73s > Roger G3XBM (2mW ERP) > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > > ________________________________ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.65/2503 - Release Date: =20 > 11/14/09 19:42:00 > > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > > ________________________________ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.65/2503 - Release Date: =20 > 11/14/09 19:42:00 > > ________________________________ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.65/2503 - Release Date: =20 > 11/14/09 19:42:00 > > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc02.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDC021-b374b143b117e; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:37:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC083-b374b143b117e; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:37:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NFDus-0000To-N2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:36:18 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NFDus-0000Tf-85 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:36:18 +0000 Received: from mail-pz0-f177.google.com ([209.85.222.177]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NFDuo-0005dl-DM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:36:18 +0000 Received: by pzk7 with SMTP id 7so6462293pzk.30 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:36:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=sWPx/WKltzUMi8QtPxH265oP14lF21jManhm3wUPNDo=; b=htThonNHDv14Um32j1zRPaRMD4aNXbA2n38wR9wfquBznaaz1keRWpAf3hHb217SLA 13+ur4vYNvy4AJAmrVA/5QatVA9lEJuxLJzUEnSKL9cLPnQSz+XzvD7X5LHsxtmW/lvZ m1I7TvH/8VHWc+4CpVrXl8cWf+kqblWCGSzdc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=cA7ran026jfC3m4AyGAWnCd5WjXLZCMWdKt5EgusxFbETLxRab0vUPQXfIlYryxiMH ZR4bd4Atiw5W3my07CC/zZyWdcxmK8euPoJduykrUHRFM/v+HoSEwobnq/21YHH6TWEB 1TC9nbsYHB/hLLvkqnI/ex+3JrpFGwLTky9h0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.49.12 with SMTP id b12mr304325rvk.238.1259616966740; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:36:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B14340A.19336.294139D@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> References: <4B140806.10012.1E82610@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> <622008509.1259614024.60767016.44464@mcgi69.rambler.ru> <4B14340A.19336.294139D@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:36:06 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 78c64529a9828faf Message-ID: <1f0624b90911301336x21523281hc3968ec089e8d80f@mail.gmail.com> From: Gary - G4WGT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: DX test 136.318kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd290b2db0b2f04799d6d5f X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d283.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0cd290b2db0b2f04799d6d5f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Mike, The link works OK for me, try again it could have been of at the time. Gary - G4WGT. 2009/11/30 Mike Dennison > Roman, > > Thanks but I get an error message on that web address. > > Mike > ==== > > > Hi Mike! > > Started my grabber on for the night overview. > > qrss.nm.ru > > > > * Mike Dennison [Mon, 30 Nov 2009 > > 17:59:34 -0000]: > I will be transmitting "XDV" overnight (1800 - 0900 > > UTC) tonight > using QRSS60 on 136.3180kHz. DX reports are welcome. > > > > Mike. G3XDV > ========== > > > > > > > -- > > Roman RW3ADB. > > > > > > > > --000e0cd290b2db0b2f04799d6d5f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike,

The link works OK for me, try again it could have= been of at the time.

Gary - G4WGT.

2009/11/30 Mike Dennison <mike.dennison@ntlworld.com= >
Roman,

Thanks but I get an error message on that web address.

Mike
=3D=3D=3D=3D

> Hi Mike!
> Started my grabber on for the night overview.
> qrss.nm.ru
>
> * Mike Dennison <mik= e.dennison@ntlworld.com> [Mon, 30 Nov 2009
> 17:59:34 -0000]: > I will be transmitting "XDV" overnigh= t (1800 - 0900
> UTC) tonight > using QRSS60 on 136.3180kHz. DX reports are welcome= . >
> > Mike. G3XDV > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >
>
>
> --
> Roman RW3ADB.
>
>




--000e0cd290b2db0b2f04799d6d5f-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB032-aba4afcc7ff267; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:44:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB038-aba4afcc7ff267; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:44:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8m7o-0000Sp-PZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:43:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8m7o-0000Sg-AF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:43:00 +0000 Received: from mcgi46.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.70]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8m7n-0002UH-MQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:43:00 +0000 Received: from mcgi46.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi46.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7296C11461 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:42:53 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [81.195.24.194] by mcgi46.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:42:53 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:42:53 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <563642.98089.qm@web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001801ca63ec$609a7f50$0900a8c0@lark> <1137672253.1258078875.51923096.88013@mcgi74.rambler.ru> Message-Id: <1252390210.1258080173.155671268.71029@mcgi46.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Joe, LF agn! Looking my grabber, pse. qrss.nm.ru I see dial freq 506.6 USB now. Weak trace on 507.763 kHz visible in 10. Nothing on 507.3 > I know who is it on the ~507.8 now: > > b.. VO1NA has been assigned VX9MRC and is reported on 507.77 > > and > > 508.5 kHz > 73! -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (rly-ma07.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.51]) by air-ma07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA073-8bc4aee06f7215; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:09:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA076-8bc4aee06f7215; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:08:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N4iaf-0002WW-OO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:08:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N4iaf-0002WN-1k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:08:01 +0000 Received: from smtp824.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.234]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N4iZ7-0002yI-Ek for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:06:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 82048 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2009 22:07:54 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=IHdRtTVh5Ld1VBU01LItBLVoAN8ZS8roH+5Nuc/6G61m4gW+WODbvPfudJfkEiFgAhcx8KL7sChk5HsMDzllB+H7PpzhO6+NeC+cJh/PEneNPU1ugOOWy3A9NShqEeevGJSjCXfDu6mE8u4adR0llLYVYo2jKai5WOJNWQ3K+O8= ; Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.176.86.179 with login) by smtp824.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Nov 2009 22:07:53 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: qKIhhNCswBB2TTHr2BORWcGGR2mpopxhCcunGIxpCKQYiG07Q7UOhNo- X-YMail-OSG: 98iaJrUVM1mrd9e3HGAYKgvUAVxXAaCH.aJ9c6wdB7sdlZ1JapsFmBL.LOeWgwVw0djoUxeKjk7depRxBPGDdNnrjPHEAK9ekU9J8teZx2Fm.ZPXVwlfreMpxax74kQ8HQ0AtlpqEazZorIJF2n.aV9Z3nPyPh1ecY5pLbc0T_AlVQX7x9hfe8ELLBgIJ5WtsflA6J2EAm2TJWSFcpFvPl7S13VlO3t2NyZygm_tmYL.huexfJ0fPbs50l7_7no2x0DrEZfkpe.UE6QKmUI2EG5r354d7qj1Dspz X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4F89D5F0D43E42F9B344F909CACE0ECD@JimPC> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <9afca2640910310528p4f07557aifdc0557a68bfeff8@mail.gmail.com> <004501ca5a35$30eff840$0900a8c0@lark> In-Reply-To: <004501ca5a35$30eff840$0900a8c0@lark> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 22:07:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz attenuation graphs? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Alan, LF Group, G3NYK wrote: > Generally at LF the skywave starts to equal or exceed the > groundwave strength at ranges exceeding 700km. It may be a little less > that > that at 500k. ...And yet, when I watch the signal level of G4JNT's WSPR beacon at night, I see short duration deep fades of 20 - 30 dB quite often, and sometimes enhancements over the daytime level of several dB also. During the day, the signal level shows very little variation. So even at a distance of about 120km, it would seem the ground wave an sky wave strengths must be comparable, in order to produce the fades. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg02.mx.aol.com (rly-dg02.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.86]) by air-dg04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG044-5a64afd45502eb; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:39:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG021-5a64afd45502eb; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:38:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8uTb-0001wa-Lz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:38:03 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8uTb-0001wR-3q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:38:03 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.152]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8uTZ-0003vv-4C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:38:03 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3426.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7C8B61C00082 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:37:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3426.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6E9B31C00086 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:37:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.59.9]) by mwinf3426.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id DBBA71C00082 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:37:50 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091113113750900.DBBA71C00082@mwinf3426.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <52D04D6834A64696BE0A3AA0F9003339@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <563642.98089.qm@web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001801ca63ec$609a7f50$0900a8c0@lark> In-Reply-To: <001801ca63ec$609a7f50$0900a8c0@lark> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:37:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Alan All is not quite as it seam's ! During the convoluted discussions with Offcomm , over the establishment of the GB4FPR 500 nov for a perm ant special event station .. which was established with the intent of conducting both experimental and normal armature radio activity's, the licensing officer at Offcom made the statement that 'he had no issues with normal armature activity on 500' and duly issued the nov to the station in time for the forth coming International Marconi Day. So for those who hold the uk 500 nov it would appeared though slightly restricted in bandwidth 'we' are perhaps the most empowered by the licensing authority's .. we even have a official beacon .. not that the others are not, its just that it did cross more than the countries boundary's when established. Three cheers to Offcom (and by the way can you do anything about the mains network adaptors please) G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Alan Melia" Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 11:02 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? > > Graham its like our Offcomm....read it that it doesnt say they can't! Dont > ask or the answer is always NO, the safest response for a Civil Serpent > :-)) > > Alan G3NYK > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graham" > To: > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 10:33 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature > stations ?? > > > Peter, > > I'm reading that .. but what am I reading ..is it yes or no ? > > G.. > > > From: M0FMT > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:55 PM > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature > stations ?? > > > Just more boring old Beacon stations claging up MF.....look on RAC > web > site... http://www.rac.ca/ ........ > > 2008-11-10 > Canadian Amateurs on 600 Metres Industry Canada has accepted an RAC > proposal whereby selected Canadian radio amateurs would be permitted to > operate in the vicinity of 500 kHz. These amateur operations would support > Canada's efforts to action a proposal on the agenda of the 2011 World > Radio > Conference (WRC2011) which, if adopted, would create an amateur allocation > in the 600-meter band. Industry Canada have authorized RAC to recommend > amateurs who would be licensed to operate in the 504 to 509 kHz band with > a > maximum power of 20 watts ERP and bandwidth up to 1 kHz. Stations > operating > in this band would be technically operating under Special Developmental > Licenses although they would all be radio amateurs. Distinct call signs > would be used and the licenses would be renewable annually subject to the > amateur demonstrating the research he has carried out. More information > will > follow shortly in the pages of TCA or via subsequent bulletins. Bryan > Rawlings VE3QN/VE2QNN Radio Amateurs of/du Canada, Inc. > > > 73 petefmt > > --- On Thu, 12/11/09, Graham wrote: > > > From: Graham > Subject: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature > stations ?? > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 21:43 > > > Can anyone clarify the situation as to who can work who > is this the same as the USA ? > > Tnx - G .. > From the IARU web site > As of 30 October 2009 Canada issued two licences in the > Developmental Service in the range 504-509 kHz. > a.. VE1ZZ has been assigned VX9PSO and is reported on 504.6 kHz > b.. VO1NA has been assigned VX9MRC and is reported on 507.77 and > 508.5 kHz > Two more stations, VE3OHH and VE7BDQ, are expected to become active > soon. > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG024-a2c4aedece422b; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 15:17:50 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG086-a2c4aedece422b; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 15:17:43 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N4gr1-0001qH-0B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 20:16:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N4gr0-0001q8-Jw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 20:16:46 +0000 Received: from mail-pz0-f179.google.com ([209.85.222.179]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N4gpS-0002RB-BU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 20:15:11 +0000 Received: by pzk9 with SMTP id 9so2676327pzk.16 for ; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:16:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=BH8+JOW1knzFfhzmY4fo0/zRCgt4xa6PlyJkbo8ScFQ=; b=mNXvVSjimlMc9616nu+ydadyDfsf9qQOFrhB2zOnVU6F3Oa5VILiibavuALYuK7NaN 9lspqzd5ck+vmLeLi+d9ycZpiq4OI6XpoC9PuV6KaI6rSoMWpcHe8vn4hqt/go0RKoIM e6E1bkoIzvx/IBLYkqN4Tw/W5s4+/g+crh1V4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=WVQ1NpsuqHkZh1IjpgBKpSMHpT8OPOPGlQYzkc3HqzKwtiNA2n5eZQmG4P3AVJNF4x VAarfpdKcb0YgtCa2KEoc+JtHdyL23/RShAwrTLoCHyw/xfqMQYo5scCAj3nQ0gHbJ4E KRcRKHyEXZPPiUSpF9MUhmBi5fkxcrpFgYnLo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.172.7 with SMTP id u7mr205512rve.45.1257106597485; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:16:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 20:16:37 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: edc1d2bda4ca3d27 Message-ID: <1f0624b90911011216la3f2f04h192f78189d73c5c3@mail.gmail.com> From: Gary - G4WGT To: Rsgb_Lf_Group X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: G4ENZ ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd295a2301ef4047754f0e5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d263.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0cd295a2301ef4047754f0e5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi All, G4ENZ has just appeared on the WSPR Spots page but it seems to be incorrect as he is operating on 80 metres at the moment & there is only one spot on 500kHz. The spotter must have the WSPR Rx freq set wrong. 73 Gary - G4WGT. --000e0cd295a2301ef4047754f0e5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All,=

G4ENZ has just appeared on the WSPR Spots page but it seems to be= incorrect as he is operating on 80 metres at the moment & there is on= ly one spot on 500kHz. The spotter must have the WSPR Rx freq set wrong.

73

Gary - G4WGT.




--000e0cd295a2301ef4047754f0e5-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA033-a7e4af204f7321; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:49:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA076-a7e4af204f7321; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:49:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N5oeV-00089g-Pj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:48:31 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N5oeV-00089X-Ad for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:48:31 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N5oeP-0000ge-KQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:48:31 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so9714317bwz.4 for ; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:48:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jMHd38GODen1jvnN/xn9w+eos12sxjTIhhRRtIG/IR4=; b=N+ggZVmqzKMc/QAg8IOXRdtZlYAcRY/RlGKHauYQuXkrdWwyoN6t7pJ7CitjeEitV+ doPNOncB9GV1hB7AoNl95tHB+LdUJcSVLYVg+2Jj5CZgFlM+A6FOOvUo+WbKuYkrOo66 To3pv/oF8p/5feBCHN2P/MZnDrYam6IPzgKbA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=e6U4He+S5ZKs35QBj47RjgoSxZgwIGEi3EFt1PyK7xto/DzDlUwusl/tcroxC1Hoer Cv4HNVtYV7227r7CAIuQdZ735e9+E2bDNaWOMoQg6nH16NFvl7v37/Rh+SB5AUe1yqRa c3bBuhWeIDeyigQMVt2iwjEG0cYLpAiby0qB4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.15.22 with SMTP id i22mr2178081bka.13.1257374899846; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:48:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4AF1FA9D.8070804@virgin.net> References: <9afca2640910310528p4f07557aifdc0557a68bfeff8@mail.gmail.com> <002b01ca5c10$0ccec4f0$0201a8c0@Clemens04> <4AF1B717.31461.F2160F@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> <4AF1FA9D.8070804@virgin.net> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 22:48:19 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911041448h40136478tc654624899dc42da@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500kHz attenuation graphs? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00032555bd464140b8047793686c X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m226.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --00032555bd464140b8047793686c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks Ian. At first glance this looks most useful. 73s Roger G3XBM 2009/11/4 Ian Marsh > Wonder if this would help. It's a free BBC document on the estimation of > LF/MF broadcast service areas. There are graphs for the 200 KHz to 1500 KHz > region for differing ground conductivities. It's available at: > > http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/reports/1975-01.pdf > > Older editions of the NAB Engineering Handbook at least had graphs for the > MW broadcast band if I remember correctly but someone seems to have lifted > our work copy and the latest edition is priced at $199. > > Cheers > > Ian / G4EXD > > > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --00032555bd464140b8047793686c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Ian. At first glance this looks most useful.

73s
Roger G3= XBM

2009/11/4 Ian Marsh <i.marsh@virgin.net>
Wonder if this= would help. It's a free BBC document on the estimation of LF/MF broad= cast service areas. There are graphs for the 200 KHz to 1500 KHz region fo= r differing ground conductivities. It's available at:

http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/reports/1975-01.pdf

Older editions of the NAB Engineering Handbook at least had graphs for the= MW broadcast band if I remember correctly but someone seems to have lifte= d our work copy and the latest edition is priced at $199.

Cheers

Ian / G4EXD






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--00032555bd464140b8047793686c-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da04.mx.aol.com (rly-da04.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.78]) by air-da03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA033-a644b0099b1f1; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:16:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA044-a644b0099b1f1; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:15:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9pEq-0003FO-RS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:14:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9pEq-0003FF-FY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:14:36 +0000 Received: from mail-yw0-f193.google.com ([209.85.211.193]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9pEp-0004EQ-R9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:14:36 +0000 Received: by ywh31 with SMTP id 31so11367196ywh.30 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:14:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=m2J023oRC10Z1N4+Bv8MyxG/hY7jb/htcMeNivtaHOs=; b=QVVnofH/sh5uAv/9ef5K8k5KwESHl2rC3BLygnlkxHbhGcteUm/QbCYSm9rK+L4E12 mUGhKUcOSuBEDO0tzYRuaGMTJ55YFNBrST+c3w4WSEomNg8Nv2lVCUDj8HZM4+C39GCp XDuhtEbJ1DMTDNw2hyPGAF+/pPu5gFQaBMHT8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=qujoXK7WxU2ofQ9n+5cvXlxUKuWtNlh4N4HoUfOp01A5XSUGZCFU7hO1s1K7Zx3WCz JnRF3ZpmAveUJWiJ5yo6uuuQZhnL/729Ly9Zk1B6kKsszjlsUOSdxUQKsOpVFVwsY4up rZBoKCTYtKMf++8hZP7oa40c8Zec9a/kQYW3k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.117.25 with SMTP id p25mr12300858ybc.139.1258330468936; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:14:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1043378010.1258326083.160784844.95853@mcgi39.rambler.ru> References: <1043378010.1258326083.160784844.95853@mcgi39.rambler.ru> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:14:28 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70911151614q7185951ud60c7e913ad36978@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Who is it? 507.300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m221.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Roman, That is Bob WE2XGR/6 (W2ZM) running 200W ERP frrom Rochester,NY -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Roman RW3ADB wrote: > > Hi LF! > What is a signal we can see around 507.300 kHz onto G4WGT grabber now? > Who is it? > Too many times I can see a CW-like trace on that freq every night. > Between 507.3 and 507.4 are visible now. > > -- > Roman RW3ADB. > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb02.mx.aol.com (rly-mb02.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.155]) by air-mb01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB012-cf34b03264b357; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:40:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB027-cf34b03264b357; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:40:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAWhv-00073I-GH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:39:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAWhv-000739-3p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:39:31 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAWht-0002h8-Q7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:39:31 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so575694bwz.4 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:39:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=UrFqGnKmjeWArdZYez2sOHoyva1Y+a57NvxQqExn2yc=; b=CAdjdy7lqkL6ksGtb5CAcn+lPjjDeVJ1LcuvKRMNtACbgsqTLY5MTYITgDYnBLlZkW uI7sxqGN4IaGw9jxmHPWoFvot6EIDJkXqALySSZRenoDmFSmLiUUCWGc+SdKnGIBkn3z dJsY8iuMHjZ4dj9JYi3f3tvi7ZQwwbT8Laexg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=s1jwe5w0Y0MZdOlV8x5xBQsIE4V0VwDpysobmQdzgg+bGe3Epf+j+10/kaujiRd8m1 zJkb6nDHVeBYTyqqmCQIcX8D3bZPpsR/j/H4DjSEwDG4rQ7dVOPGMGWOU9Quzz2inXW0 7gVigVdmt37XY0D1LpyhORR/X9rlMPwVrxXjI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.90.70 with SMTP id d48mr1029031wef.159.1258497563585; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:39:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:39:23 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911171439r5f3352bcpc45b7052fa55b354@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500kHz conditions good Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d566403a6f48047898cc4f X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m233.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0016e6d566403a6f48047898cc4f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Not sure why, but I am getting some excellent reports on 500kHz WSPR this even from some decent distances. Are conditions especially good for some reason tonight? My WSPR beacon will run overnight tonight to see what happens. 73s Roger G3XBM -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --0016e6d566403a6f48047898cc4f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not sure why, but I am getting some excellent reports on 500kHz WSPR this= even from some decent distances. Are conditions especially good for some= reason tonight?

My WSPR beacon will run overnight tonight to see= what happens.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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--0016e6d566403a6f48047898cc4f-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (rly-mf06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.176]) by air-mf06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF061-96a4af2baa718f; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:44:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF068-96a4af2baa718f; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:44:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N60kn-0001TQ-PF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:43:49 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N60kn-0001TH-CM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:43:49 +0000 Received: from smtp21.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.3]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N60kl-0006Fb-Pl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:43:49 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2112.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 612307000090 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 12:43:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (145.220.195-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.195.220.145]) by msfrf2112.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 224547000085 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 12:43:38 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091105114338140.224547000085@msfrf2112.sfr.fr Message-ID: <001501ca5e0d$2c771d30$0201a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: References: <001901ca5dfa$4e55bf50$0201a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> <4AF2B89D.6040001@inext.at> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 12:43:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091104-1, 04/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: dk7fc.....f8boj beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 HI OSSI...and LF Group thank you to you to control you too last night you were very strong qrss10 here .. Claude F8boj JN16WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oberreiter Oswald" To: Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 12:35 PM Subject: Re: LF: dk7fc.....f8boj beacon > HI Claude > strong signal today here 20 db over nois ! > 73 de ossi oe5odl > > Claude Berthebaud schrieb: >> HI LF and DK7FC >> Hello stefan open the beacon to day for 137705.0hz qrss3 >> very good day >> Claude F8boj JN16WA > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df02.mx.aol.com (rly-df02.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.15]) by air-df08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF082-5334b002bd51aa; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:27:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF026-5334b002bd51aa; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:27:03 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9hvS-0007fM-JX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:26:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9hvS-0007fD-1I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:26:06 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f211.google.com ([209.85.220.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9hvQ-0001kS-PD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:26:06 +0000 Received: by fxm3 with SMTP id 3so348250fxm.4 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:25:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=V2IKkidlBvbFJCpoUq4H/xlk5bhefAJvfhPfDCf0B5g=; b=FRFUrarnr3fPZZIz/dxYVC4ZsMEE9/sRYohwuBOF5/qSifpXoNNLqEhsrbzv/og4qz K3+fGxJnEbecKozuIpG6VJSEye2SVOOhS1b//vJEEmGKR1WBQtoj9OetWbect6NSY7ey LoaKFCGG1YsBk5zgTfQNP8WPoURVa5VuvzYMI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=q9ljZValk470QTR5lWG0bPdnEfNLyjakYgZevNp51GzL9Hkla63Nrv2ocJsdk6Z4wT v/3oLaqdFTOYFyWOXogwGhzYkLgROaGhG339EStzFmMZVbxJL36cPjyJBrDm3cyA9piG TmziiBcv4FVzi8LyENZrZa3C9LGFYu/5m+y+E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.143.151 with SMTP id v23mr3038840bku.169.1258302358623; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:25:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <041601ca660c$2c6b9850$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <9afca2640911150409x1389fd48q451284c2e0ee43d5@mail.gmail.com> <03a301ca65ee$020ae250$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <9afca2640911150509x387471dcxa7e5ffa73e8ec9cb@mail.gmail.com> <040901ca6609$73095250$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <041601ca660c$2c6b9850$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:25:58 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911150825q1d827944p7486ccc38d0676e6@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: G3XBM on CW at noon? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175d06061b17b604786b59e0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m269.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0015175d06061b17b604786b59e0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Just worked Chris G3XIZ Mal. 73s Roger G3XBM 2009/11/15 mal hamilton > PS > G3XBM nw cq at 1550 utc. Other stns on band. Am I the only one that can > copy him ? > g3kev > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* mal hamilton > *To:* Roger Lapthorn > *Cc:* rsgb > *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2009 3:36 PM > *Subject:* LF: Re: G3XBM on CW at noon? > > Pleased u made it to Scarborough, good Q5 but weak. No need for wspr. Lots > of other CW acty on band today, hpe u work some more. > 73 gud dxing mal/g3kev > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Roger Lapthorn > *To:* mal hamilton > *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2009 1:09 PM > *Subject:* Re: G3XBM on CW at noon? > > Many thanks Mal for my very first 2-way 500kHz CW QSO. You've good ears my > friend! > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > 2009/11/15 mal hamilton > >> Well Roger u made it to Scarborough on CW, solid copy Q5 but I doubt if >> WSPR would have decoded your signal. >> Tnx the 569 >> good DX ing >> 73 de mal/g3kev >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Roger Lapthorn >> *To:* g3kevmal@talktalk.net >> *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2009 12:09 PM >> *Subject:* G3XBM on CW at noon? >> >> Think you* may* have heard me on 500kHz around noon Mal. You called "QRZ >> G3X"several times but failed to get me. >> >> Will try again. >> >> 73s >> Roger G3XBM (2mW ERP) >> >> -- >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ >> http://www.g3xbm.co.uk >> G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.65/2503 - Release Date: 11/14/09 >> 19:42:00 >> >> > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > > ------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.65/2503 - Release Date: 11/14/09 > 19:42:00 > > ------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.65/2503 - Release Date: 11/14/09 > 19:42:00 > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --0015175d06061b17b604786b59e0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just worked Chris G3XIZ Mal.

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/11/15 mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
PS
G3XBM nw cq at 1550 utc. Other stns= on band. Am I=20 the only one that can copy him ?
g3kev
=A0
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mal=20 hamilton
Cc: rsgb
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009= 3:36=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: G3XBM on CW at= =20 noon?

Pleased u made it to Scarborough,= good Q5 but=20 weak. No need for wspr. Lots of other CW acty on band today, hpe u work= some=20 more.
73 gud dxing mal/g3kev
=A0
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 20= 09 1:09=20 PM
Subject: Re: G3XBM on CW at= noon?

Many thanks Mal for my very first 2-way 500kHz CW QSO.= You've=20 good ears my friend!

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/11/15 mal hamilton &= lt;g3kevmal@tal= ktalk.net>
Well Roger u made it to Scarbor= ough on CW,=20 solid copy=A0Q5 but I doubt if WSPR would have decoded=A0your=20 signal.
Tnx the 569
good=A0DX=A0ing
73 de mal/g3kev=A0
=A0=A0
-----=20 Original Message -----
From:=20 Roger Lapthorn
Sent:=20 Sunday, November 15, 2009 12:09 PM
Subject:=20 G3XBM on CW at noon?

Think you may have heard me on 500kHz around= noon=20 Mal. You called "QRZ G3X"several times but failed to get= me.

Will=20 try again.

73s
Roger G3XBM (2mW ERP)
--=20
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http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678=20 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by= AVG -=20 www.avg.com=
Version:=20 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.65/2503 - Release Date: 11/14/09= =20 19:42:00



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http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM =A0=20 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG= -=20 www.avg.com
V= ersion: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.65/2503 - Release=20 Date: 11/14/09 19:42:00


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG -= =20 www.avg.com
Ver= sion: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.65/2503 - Release=20 Date: 11/14/09 19:42:00



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--0015175d06061b17b604786b59e0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc02.mx.aol.com (rly-mc02.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.86]) by air-mc08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC083-d5d4b02c90f39a; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:02:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC025-d5d4b02c90f39a; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:02:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAQUh-0003os-Ot for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:01:27 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAQUh-0003oj-3s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:01:27 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAQUe-0001FA-T5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:01:27 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC627B8067 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:01:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from PC_van_Rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-106.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.106]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F44BF3863 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:01:09 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:01:10 +0100 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <9afca2640911170734u7ebc121em5be88d61d99be249@mail.gmail.co m> References: <9afca2640911170243q3b4e2c95kb2668b937e727070@mail.gmail.com> <4B02BF9E.5020701@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <9afca2640911170734u7ebc121em5be88d61d99be249@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091117160109.6F44BF3863@smtps02.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 136kHz WSPR tests Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_29911444==.ALT" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --=====================_29911444==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Roger, it could turn out that WSPR-ing is bad for your stomach ;-) 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T At 16:34 17/11/2009, you wrote: >John, > >If you manage to hear me on 136kHz I shall eat my hat. > >...but then I nearly said that last time about 500kHz!! > >73s >Roger G3XBM > >2009/11/17 John P-G ><gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> >Roger Lapthorn wrote: >Dear all, > >Very encouraged by my results at 500kHz, I'd like to try some "low ERP" WSPR >tests on 136kHz using the same small antenna and transverter (slightly >modified). > > >Let me know and I'll be watching! > >Cheers, > >John >GM4SLV > > > > > >-- >------------------------------------------------------------- >http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ >http://www.g3xbm.co.uk >G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --=====================_29911444==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Roger,

it could turn out that WSPR-ing is bad for your stomach ;-)

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


At 16:34 17/11/2009, you wrote:
John,

If you manage to hear me on 136kHz I shall eat my hat.

...but then I nearly said that last time about 500kHz!!

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/11/17 John P-G < gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
Roger Lapthorn wrote:
Dear all,

Very encouraged by my results at 500kHz, I'd like to try some "low ERP" WSPR
tests on 136kHz using the same small antenna and transverter (slightly
modified). 


Let me know and I'll be watching!

Cheers,

John
GM4SLV





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http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088
--=====================_29911444==.ALT-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb08.mx.aol.com (rly-mb08.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.166]) by air-mb08.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMB082-d1d4b141c71c7; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:27:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB081-d1d4b141c71c7; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:26:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NFBsY-0008CQ-G6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:25:46 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NFBsY-0008CH-3b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:25:46 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NFBsW-0004rr-7w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:25:46 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 980D54C80AD for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:25:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACEC04C8184 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:25:38 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B141C32.90105@online.fr> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:25:38 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001201ca71e6$f8fe42b0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <001901ca71f0$fb60b830$0201a8c0@F8BOJSQUSV2QH5> In-Reply-To: <001901ca71f0$fb60b830$0201a8c0@F8BOJSQUSV2QH5> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: F8BOJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Claude , Jay , Congratulations Claude , I think that it is first T/A F to W ! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj claude berthebaud a =E9crit : > Hi Jay and LF > > Thank you for the information I'm going up a little higher in frequency > In any case thank you for this transatlantic reception .... > may be a QSO soon I'll be happy > Claude F8boj JN16wa > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep" > Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 7:00 PM > Subject: LF: F8BOJ > > >> BOJ very close to Loran line making reception difficult in North=20 >> America. >> >> Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de02.mx.aol.com (rly-de02.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.138]) by air-de01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE014-4b94afbd9ec378; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:48:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE024-4b94afbd9ec378; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:48:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8WH8-0006DY-Ko for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:47:34 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8WH8-0006DP-1D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:47:34 +0000 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8WH6-0002vO-E2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:47:33 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.1]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091112094722.BPZK17277.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:47:22 +0000 Received: from [86.27.93.99] (helo=jimdesk) by know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8WGv-0006r8-So for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:47:22 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: References: <4AFB477C.5090604@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <001501ca6326$ff28c710$0617aac0@jimdesk> <00f301ca6329$8ba907c0$0900a8c0@lark> <001901ca632a$d3356ab0$0617aac0@jimdesk> <011201ca6332$23e930c0$0900a8c0@lark> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:47:20 -0000 Message-ID: <000301ca637d$20bd9e40$0617aac0@jimdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcpjMlBJFXeN4Z2BTFaI0bB3F1Ju2gASmEMg In-Reply-To: <011201ca6332$23e930c0$0900a8c0@lark> X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=sKl0yPpJp1MA:10 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=8RloEfZUAAAA:8 a=ucZTuQLQxCvYkBNsjUkA:9 a=iS_JaMjvURPXLmeMT3wA:7 a=mO9LmdeeNFAFhky74vPi75PM7IgA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=O58u2wXj750A:10 a=SOC50V_PD97yeAWx:21 a=jCWr6k8wQ4GK5RpH:21 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Alan Thanks for the pointers here. Very useful. As it transpires, the laptop psu is now interfering on Rx so a loop has opened up somewhere. I'm going to dismantle the whole set up and re-wire/reroute from scratch....god help me!! I should have taken up stamp collecting as a hobby! With best regards Jim Dr. James Cowburn -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia Sent: 12 November 2009 00:25 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: RE: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! Ah the dreaded laptop. Ok the isolation that is agood idea in that case you must make sure you have some Rf grounds somewhere. Laptops seem to float there is not reason (for the digital engineers who designed them anyway) to put an earth on the metalwork. The RF circuitating in those leads might be inducing hum. It might be worth trying an earth on any suitable but of the laptop metalwork....socket pillars ?? It definitely sounds as though it is hum getting into the PC sound system. Good Luck with it. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Cowburn" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 11:58 PM Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! > The soundcard leads are via an opto-isolator interface and the leads from > the interface to laptop are wound on ferrite cores, approx 8 turns each for > tx and rx. > > I will check the mains psu for the dell d610 laptop as that could be > introducing hum or picking up rf from the tx (IC-735). It might need > ferrites on the leads to and from the SMPSU > > I've just turned "the wick" down on the tx/rx inputs and also the rf gain on > ic 735 till the needle just shifted in case it was being over-driven so I'll > see how that works. > > Not a prob when I was QRPpp but as sigs improve with dark nights I'd noticed > it too > > Thanks to John and others for heads up and suggestions > > With best regards > > > Jim > > > Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia > Sent: 11 November 2009 23:49 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: Re: RE: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! > > Hi Jim what kind of PC are you using. If a desktop are to sure it has the > mains safety earth connected.....I have come across this problem before some > 3 connecter IEC moulded leads with only two wires in them!! If a laptop then > unless you use a radio earth that may all be floating. Sometimes it is > necessary to use an tranformer on the audio leads to and from the PC to gain > isolation from the hum and noise. I use old telephone hybrid transformers > 600ohm to 600 ohm ferrite cored. > > Best Wishes > Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Cowburn" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 11:30 PM > Subject: LF: RE: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! > > > > Hi John > > > > I'll have a look see. I've noticed on strong sigs from me (few and far > > between!) I get multiple decodes +50 and -50. I'm not aware of any > obvious > > mains hum if I monitor my outgoing sigs and all leads are wound on ferrite > > cores, but clearly something is amiss. > > > > I shall look into it and see what I can find > > > > Cheers for the heads up > > > > With best regards > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > Dr. James Cowburn > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John P-G > > Sent: 11 November 2009 23:24 > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: LF: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! > > > > Jim. LF > > > > It looks like G7NKS has a 50/100Hz problem on the audio - both in TX and > > RX directions - there are up to 3 decodes by Jim of a single station (eg > > G3YXM), spaced by 50 & 100Hz and I see also that M0BMU is also reporting > > multiple decodes of G7NKS with the same 50/100Hz spacing. > > > > Jim, have you some mains hum affecting the audio in/out of the PC? > > > > Cheers, > > > > John > > GM4SLV > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df02.mx.aol.com (rly-df02.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.15]) by air-df08.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDF084-5324b0d6beb11a; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:40:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF025-5324b0d6beb11a; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:39:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDLpQ-0005Zo-3E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:38:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDLpP-0005Zf-I7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:38:55 +0000 Received: from mailout09.t-online.de ([194.25.134.84]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDLpO-0002te-SI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:38:55 +0000 Received: from fwd11.aul.t-online.de by mailout09.t-online.de with smtp id 1NDLpN-0004oA-01; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:38:53 +0100 Received: from df2py (XRnda+ZZghHWHSPHll8NIcJWuXdOAvnBTH2AdErdDEMxgp3jp7nkItxNOUI7sahQoo@[80.187.109.101]) by fwd11.t-online.de with esmtp id 1NDLoO-1cH4kK0; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:37:52 +0100 From: "Wolf Ostwald" To: Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:39:35 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: Acpt9kDoryCLGG2DTPKD6nhtumnM9w== X-ID: XRnda+ZZghHWHSPHll8NIcJWuXdOAvnBTH2AdErdDEMxgp3jp7nkItxNOUI7sahQoo X-TOI-MSGID: 438b236c-594e-44c1-a1b0-570f30c583dd X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: DI2BJ active tonite Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0043_01CA6DFE.A51E0810" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01CA6DFE.A51E0810 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello ! DI2BJ will be active on 505.030 regular cw tonite until about 21z 73 de wolf ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01CA6DFE.A51E0810 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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DI2BJ will be active on 50= 5.030 regular cw tonite until about 21z

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------=_NextPart_000_0043_01CA6DFE.A51E0810-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de10.mx.aol.com (rly-de10.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.146]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE023-5064af9b3d41f0; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:42:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE101-5064af9b3d41f0; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:41:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7vdl-0008T4-6k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:40:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7vdk-0008Sv-6d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:40:28 +0000 Received: from mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.47]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7vdg-0004zR-JT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:40:27 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-3.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.3]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091110184017.OMWM17029.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-3.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:40:17 +0000 Received: from [86.27.93.99] (helo=jimdesk) by know-smtpout-3.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7vdY-0007kR-3z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:40:17 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: References: <112811.74996.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001b01ca6225$fcddd970$0617aac0@jimdesk> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:40:15 -0000 Message-ID: <003801ca6235$3f117d60$0617aac0@jimdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcpiKnccpknhyqTZQoSPBPPTBvmFFAACJPMg In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=LqAi-wNJwEQA:10 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=8RloEfZUAAAA:8 a=BrDiTsk0AAAA:8 a=3s14aSalXFHYvSBOJpIA:9 a=Mnp3K9HOTAgYvAvHvMQA:7 a=3B8ZOuQcvohxCbzdSUu9ASSD-zkA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=O58u2wXj750A:10 a=-hJg1tCh9CgA:10 a=dFu11oANBRGOJk9G:21 a=9y-bC9Ov5BwSZ8S1:21 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=pnH_WYKbQ4GFdAz7_nUA:9 a=yNNlkLK3GDTw6JWxUeQA:7 a=yvaYhm3Zk5Ws_umhWKuiS_LS_UgA:4 a=uz9WFDYR8rEVSbXM:21 a=oVQ0pJmZRmrf93L8:21 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0039_01CA6235.3F117D60" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING, LINES_OF_YELLING_2 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01CA6235.3F117D60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Dennis Not offended at all, more alarmed and disappointed that I have been causing you problems and grief. As the "new boy to the band" I did not realize I was operating on top of your frequency. Many apologies to you, Chris (and probably Pete too) for my QRM. If you can let me know the sorts of times that you want to work the band then I'll endeavour to keep in Rx only mode or QRT during those times. Chris did suggest that if I could avoid "WSPRing" on Saturday and Sunday mornings when a lot of CW QSOs are underway then that would help. If there are any evening segments or weekday slots that I could also avoid then do let me know and hopefully we can find a good solution. I certainly don't want to be a "Johnny come lately" and ruin the band for all the other users With best regards Jim Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of DENNIS EASTERLING Sent: 10 November 2009 17:22 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Hi Jim I was speaking figuratively as you are so near and on my xtl frequency. My comment was directed at Chris' statment in email subject1000 QSOs, who also suffers and others who have complained about beacons in general. In fact the band is often dead for hours on end and it is nice to find any signal, beacon or QSO, especially when testing. My point is that is there should be room for both beacons and QSOs, then follows a suggestion that LFrs may like to come to some agreement about reserving a section for each mode. Hoping I did not offend, 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message ----- From: James Cowburn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 4:51 PM Subject: LF: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Hi Dennis I did not realize I was causing you QRM. A quick e-mail would have alerted me to it, rather than me being a "pain". I'm happy to work out a compromise where we operate at separate times or if you suggest a different frequency for me to work on. Just drop me a line with your ideas on this. With best regards Jim Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of DENNIS EASTERLING Sent: 10 November 2009 16:13 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Congratulations Chris. Most wspr stations seem to congregate at the top end of the band and are not too much trouble. Jim G7NKS is the biggest pain as he sits on my xtl frequency and is so close. Maybe a compromise would be for people using beacons to keep to one segment of the band (hopefully not 502.2 kHz -hee) 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Osborn To: LF Group Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 6:03 PM Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO LF It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m. This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 600m / 80m. Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0CF - No. 998. QSO break-down according to mode: 928 CW, 34 RTTY and 5 QRSS 600m STATIONS My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many of these go back to the start of the UK 600m allocation in March 2007. Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding beacons). Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of again: G3KZU, G3YHV . . . Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT: G3UNT, G3VTT, G4GDR. . . MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the same stations many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of my total contacts. My most frequently worked stations are: GW3UEP - 120 G3KEV - 102 M0FMT - 90 G3ZWH - 80 (alas now SK) G3DXZ - 67 G4GDR - 60 EI0CF/ GI4DPE - 51 M0JXM - 48 G3UNT - 45 G3VTT - 38 CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a cross-band QSO: DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . . and our few EU MF friends are still active: ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . . WSPR ON 600m I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for the WSPR mode was never achieved for hand sent Morse (CW), which after all is the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF marine band. If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stations operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band then I guess it may be time for me to QSY. 73 Chris G3XIZ ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01CA6235.3F117D60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Not offended at= all, more alarmed and disappointed that I have been causing you problems and grief. As the= “new boy to the band” I did not realize I was operating on top of you= r frequency.  

 

Many apologies= to you, Chris (and probably Pete too) for my QRM.  If you can let me know the sorts of times= that you want to work the band then I’ll endeavour to keep in Rx only mode or= QRT during those times.   Chris did suggest that if I could avoi= d “WSPRing” on Saturday and Sunday mornings when a lot of CW QSOs are underway the= n that would help. If there are any evening segments or weekday slots that I= could also avoid then do  let me know and  hopefully we can find= a good solution.

 

I certainly don= ’t want to be a “Johnny come lately” and ruin the band for all the other users

 

 

 

With best regar= ds

 

 

Jim=

 

 

Dr. James Cowbu= rn G7NKS

 

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org [mailto:owner-= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of DENNIS EASTERLING
Sent: 10 November 2009= 17:22
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re= : G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO

 

Hi Jim

 

I was speaking figuratively as you are= so near and on my xtl frequency.   My comment was directed at Chris'= statment in email subject1000 QSOs, who also suffers and others who have= complained about beacons in general.   In fact the band is often dead= for hours on end and it is nice to find any signal, beacon or QSO, especially wh= en testing.  My point is that  is there should be room for both beacons and QSOs,  then follows a suggest= ion that LFrs may like to come to some agreement about reserving a se= ction for each mode.

 

Hoping I did not offend, 73 Dennis M0JX= M

----- Original Message -----

Sent:= Tuesday, November 10, 2009 4:51 PM

Subject: LF: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO

 

Hi Dennis<= /o:p>

 

I did not reali= ze I was causing you QRM.  A quick e-mail would have alerted me to it, rather than me being= a “pain”.   I’m happy to work out a compromi= se where we operate at separate times or if you suggest a different frequency= for me to work on. Just drop me a line with your ideas on this.

 

With best regar= ds

 

 

Jim=

 

 

Dr. James Cowbu= rn G7NKS

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org [mailto:owner-= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of DENNIS EASTERLING
Sent: 10 November 2009= 16:13
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: G3XIZ= - 1000 th MF QSO

 

Congratulations Chris.

 

Most wspr stations seem to congregate= at the top end of the band and are not too much trouble.    Jim G7NKS is the= biggest pain as he sits on my xtl frequency and is so close.   Maybe= a compromise would be for people using beacons to keep to one segment of= the band (hopefully not 502.2 kHz -hee)

 

73 Dennis M0JXM

----- Original Message -----

From: Chris Osborn

To: LF Group

Sent:= Sunday, November 08, 2009 6:03 PM

Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO

 

LF

It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m.<= br> This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 600m= / 80m.

Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0C= F - No. 998.

QSO break-down according to mode:     928 CW,  34 RTTY  and   5 QRSS

600m STATIONS

My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many of these go back to= the start of the UK  600m allocation in March 2007.
Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding= beacons).
Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of again:  G3KZU, G3YHV . . .
Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT:  G3U= NT, G3VTT, G4GDR. . .

MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED

With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the same= stations many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of my total contact= s.
My most frequently worked stations are:

GW3UEP - 120     G3KEV - 102   &nbs= p;  M0FMT - 90     G3ZWH  -  80  (alas= now SK)
G3DXZ    -   67     G4GDR -   60      EI0CF/ GI4DPE  -&n= bsp; 51   M0JXM - 48
G3UNT    -   45     G3VTT=   -   38

CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS

There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a cros= s-band QSO:
DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . .

and our few EU MF friends are still active:
ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . .

WSPR ON 600m

I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for the= WSPR mode was never achieved for  hand sent Morse (CW), which after all is= the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF marine band.
If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stations= operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band then I guess= it may be time for me to QSY.

73 Chris G3XIZ





 

------=_NextPart_000_0039_01CA6235.3F117D60-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df07.mx.aol.com (rly-df07.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.20]) by air-df02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF022-5644b03065bab; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:24:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF075-5644b03065bab; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:23:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAUZV-0005sT-VN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:22:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAUZV-0005sK-EP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:22:41 +0000 Received: from smtp828.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.13.163]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAUZU-00024N-86 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:22:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 3009 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2009 20:22:34 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=j10ZoevTjK+QvapPgbSB1DGJIppVZB2aCDuYApKa6VFfXLTbrMA4ipT4tZJheEF5edqO1q8xeN9RQA6W+hcDS0JmIIZRM3U38cZKmo4Xk4LwYhqHNvbMKRgthYrU9tdrIRKPdQ41E8gdcXk0gSf/v4/tYkFEW684DALBZeMOlwM= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@81.131.10.167 with login) by smtp828.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Nov 2009 20:22:33 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: KHdpK2OswBBXlm4uxknbEiS4uYdJoGknHN90u4K8__lTafnafZg- X-YMail-OSG: 5sT.7mkVM1n3tmBirG.OcXWEyCgqwfugzHGqobc13iaBi9mtg8pwHdW7FCsCZM4gScjiUS4TdAP9tvwrU8M6HKoxpqrzrcxzRrefaad5uSU.mlcUtsBSNhLTY2YGWTSu6c01XhZ5oRxsIiSKkvDjVjGQ9SDq6TktYB8GgwcrS9SffsZpaj6rtZ.xFARuACNvZBq.D_yeap3F9T0opV8E5xYTiUNAiZWH00LYucYjsZpqs6mtuGGEOhtJIp06Zg2FkuZjlyCXdnwWvF4fm0eKY2ip6qh76ghIFsoO72fWA2xcNq0hDF5wZ.JtgRwsbIzVBRzNo.Rid59r_QJKZcQ35g-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <005f01ca67c3$bd1f9e10$0900a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <626551.33117.qm@web63607.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <002e01ca66fa$9edc5f20$0900a8c0@lark> <4B02D40E.20804@usa.net> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:31:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: LEONIDS and propagation Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Yes I think you are right Alberto not even a type ...more likely faulty memory. I dont have a receiver on it at present......its an age thing you know :-)) Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alberto di Bene" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 4:49 PM Subject: LF: Re: LEONIDS and propagation > Alan Melia wrote: > > > In Europe, the Graves satellite radar on 140.050 is a good way to > > watch pings with something like Argo or Spectrum Lab. > > Alan, > > are you sure about that frequency ? I read on another group that > the Graves radar operates on 143.050 MHz > > I have no direct experience about that. I am just reporting what I read. > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (rly-dd10.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.157]) by air-dd10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD103-ba24b0803fd14c; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:15:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD104-ba24b0803fd14c; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:15:10 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBrfJ-0006M0-Gl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:14:21 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBrfJ-0006Lp-3V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:14:21 +0000 Received: from out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.239]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBrfH-0001Lo-33 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:14:21 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlUFAMOSB0tZ8EAi/2dsb2JhbACCJCyLOAbFSoQ8BA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,264,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="109710546" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([89.240.64.34]) by out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 21 Nov 2009 15:14:12 +0000 Message-ID: <005d01ca6abd$476e88f0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:14:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: SOFTROCK Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005A_01CA6ABD.471656D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01CA6ABD.471656D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a spare Softrock V6.2 RX/TX kit for 160m and could easily be mo= dified for 500 Khz de mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01CA6ABD.471656D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have a spare Softrock V6.2 RX/TX ki= t for 160m and=20 could easily be modified for 500 Khz
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------=_NextPart_000_005A_01CA6ABD.471656D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df01.mx.aol.com (rly-df01.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.14]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF032-5264b09c4343e3; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:07:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF013-5264b09c4343e3; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:07:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCLVf-0006IC-Lf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:06:23 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCLVf-0006I3-B3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:06:23 +0000 Received: from nina.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.76]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCLVe-0006Zu-Aw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:06:23 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by nina.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id nAMN6FaZ004243 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:36:15 -0330 Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:36:15 -0330 (NST) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" In-Reply-To: <20091122233452.scbqd6b8zcwk8gkg@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Message-ID: References: <4B04EADA.4090707@telus.net> <57a24ca70911190525s5bbf2768gcfe5e7150eb8f784@mail.gmail.com> <20091121211012.fehyrbxl4400ckc8@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <20091122233452.scbqd6b8zcwk8gkg@webmail6.kuleuven.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: VX9MRC Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thanks Rik, Your grabber is very consistent. Looking for Jack on CW at the moment. 73 Joe On Sun, 22 Nov 2009, Rik Strobbe wrote: > Joe, > > good copy @22:25 UTC, see attached > > I will let the web grabber running overnight: > http://www.strobbe.eu/argo/argo.jpg > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc12.mx.aol.com (rly-mc12.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.96]) by air-mc08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC081-daf4b080e4f2c3; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:59:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC127-daf4b080e4f2c3; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:59:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBsLh-0006v5-Qw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:58:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBsLh-0006uw-7A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:58:09 +0000 Received: from nina.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.76]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBsLg-0000X8-44 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:58:09 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by nina.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id nALFw0SM021650 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:28:00 -0330 Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:28:00 -0330 (NST) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <57a24ca70911190525s5bbf2768gcfe5e7150eb8f784@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <4B04EADA.4090707@telus.net> <57a24ca70911190525s5bbf2768gcfe5e7150eb8f784@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Joe don't drop the soap! Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear Group, Warren: Newfoundland and Labrador Canadians take our humour very seriously: we laugh at ourselves. "Gotta be some smart to know you's stund, b'y"! It is clear that everyone is not happy with the way 500 kHz was handled in Canada. I too have some strong reservations. In the mean time, VX9MRC is presently on 507.77 kHz transmitting QRSS10. Reports will be graciously accepted. Scott: Sorry for the delay and congrats on a well researched web page. A few minor editorial changes could improve it dramatically. Could you change '... Joe'e behaviour...' to 'conducing his studies in strict accordance with a 500 kHz experimental research proposal'? Your suscinct paraphrase of Craig et al. 2009 (pers. comm. by email of 14 Nov.) could be better worded to reflect the essential points. Perhaps it is best that you quote verbatim the full text for which you are herewith granted permision. Comments on Craig's ego and intentions are poorly substantiated and you would do well to investigate this further. You may find better evidence to support a hypotheses that Craig et al. was simultaneously conducting propagaton studies and contributing to the success and satisfaction of his esteemed research colleagues. You are very creative and I was wondering if you could make a QSL card for me with the Newfoundland Pirate motif! Please feel free to use my Halloween picture and your magnificent art work. Best Regards Joe VO1NA On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, Warren Ziegler wrote: > The Canadian sense of humor, how's it goin eh? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-ZvAVcBIrQ > > Take off for The Great White North! > - > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ > WD2XSH/23 > WE2XEB/2 > WE2XGR/1 > > > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 1:51 AM, Scott Tilley wrote: >> See the 600m Buttulator for the latest in this high seas drama... >> >> RAC speaks... >> >> 73 Scott >> http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/ >> >> > > > > - > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (rly-mg10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.116]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG092-a374af69ec060; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:34:47 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG101-a374af69ec060; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:34:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N755f-0004zZ-50 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:33:47 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N755d-0004zQ-TD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:33:45 +0000 Received: from mail0.citigroup.com ([192.193.221.105] helo=mail.citigroup.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N755b-0003jW-TN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:33:45 +0000 Received: from imbhub-mw02.nam.nsroot.net ([159.17.94.189]) by imbaspam-ss03.namdmz.dmzroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_EXT/ev: 24737 $) with ESMTP id nA8AXajC014559 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:33:37 GMT Received: from exlniht02.eur.nsroot.net (exlniht02.eur.nsroot.net [169.186.207.99]) by imbhub-mw02.nam.nsroot.net (Switch-3.4.0/Switch-3.4.0) with ESMTP id nA8AXY14005146 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:33:35 GMT Received: from exlnht01.eur.nsroot.net (169.182.192.16) by exlniht02.eur.nsroot.net (169.186.207.99) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.375.2; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:33:34 +0000 Received: from exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net ([169.186.207.105]) by exlnht01.eur.nsroot.net ([169.182.192.16]) with mapi; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:33:33 +0000 From: "Scholz, Marco " To: "'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'" Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:33:27 +0000 Thread-Topic: dd7pc F8boj Thread-Index: AcpgXNuWm0JfZ3jXRamY+mpxNjUwZAAAW7aw Message-ID: <254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C74A844F@exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net> References: <000601ca605c$4798bb90$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> In-Reply-To: <000601ca605c$4798bb90$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> Accept-Language: en-US, en-GB Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US, en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 169.175.16.182 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: dd7pc F8boj Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C74A844Fexlnmb06eurns_" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_000_254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C74A844Fexlnmb06eurns_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good morning CLaude, i'm very, very happy now about our QSO. Sending you in this moment my fina= l. That's my new ODX with 538km. Amazing with my light setup, but i benefit= from your good antenna. Please can i send you my QSL card direct? have a nice sunday vy73 Marco DD7PC mailto://dd7pc@gmx.de http://www.qsl.net/dd7pc ________________________________ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org] On Behalf Of Claude Berthebaud Sent: 08 November 2009 11:15 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: dd7pc F8boj HI Marco and LF Marco GM ur M in JN16WA...to day.. many thanks for the qso best 73 's Claude F8boj --_000_254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C74A844Fexlnmb06eurns_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Good morning CLaude,
i'm very, very happy now about our QSO. Se= nding you in this=20 moment my final.
That's my new ODX with 538km. Amazing with= my light setup,=20 but i benefit from your good antenna.
Please can i send you my QSL card=20 direct?
 
have a nice sunday
vy73
Marco
DD7PC
 

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o= rg=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Claude=20 Berthebaud
Sent: 08 November 2009 11:15
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: dd7pc=20 F8boj

HI Marco and LF
Marco GM ur M in JN16WA...to=20 day..
many thanks for the qso
best 73 's
Claude F8boj
--_000_254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C74A844Fexlnmb06eurns_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC014-b2f4b084cd11b1; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:25:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC073-b2f4b084cd11b1; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:25:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBwVv-0001fo-EN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:24:59 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBwVu-0001fd-U9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:24:58 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBwVs-0002oe-If for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:24:58 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3569F7B8047 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:24:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29A5231E703 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:24:47 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id CAE8B18056; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:24:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from 62.8-180-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (62.8-180-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [91.180.8.62]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:24:46 +0100 Message-ID: <20091121212446.0xip1qwmckkks004@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:24:46 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <4B04EADA.4090707@telus.net> <57a24ca70911190525s5bbf2768gcfe5e7150eb8f784@mail.gmail.com> <20091121211012.fehyrbxl4400ckc8@webmail6.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20091121211012.fehyrbxl4400ckc8@webmail6.kuleuven.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 91.180.8.62 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: temporary grabber Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) As it is just a simple jpg (no html) you have to refresh yourself. Upload every 2 minutes The strong vertical lines are "made in Sweden" ;-) 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting Rik Strobbe : >> In the mean time, VX9MRC is presently on 507.77 kHz transmitting QRSS10 > > Hello Joe, > > I have set up a temporary 507.77 kHz grabber at > http://www.strobbe.eu/argo/argo.jpg > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df09.mx.aol.com (rly-df09.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.22]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF063-5794b0826c999; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:43:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF096-5794b0826c999; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:43:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBtxf-0007KF-ME for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:41:27 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBtxS-0007K6-9r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:41:15 +0000 Received: from smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com ([195.200.78.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBtxM-00021s-D2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:41:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 20039 invoked by uid 507); 21 Nov 2009 18:40:50 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO JR) (john.rabson@numeo.fr@217.67.155.178) by smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 2009 18:40:50 +0100 Message-ID: <200911211840580519.1B5773FC@smtp2.numeo.fr> In-Reply-To: <255520.67675.qm@web28105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <255520.67675.qm@web28105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:40:58 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Building a Softrock Lite RX with the M0BMU mods for 136 kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Pete, Mal, Many thanks to both of you for the offers. Pete: I look forward to hearing from you direct. Good luck with the Mitsu= bishi. Mal: that is a good offer, but I already have a kit. The problem is I can= 't see well enough even with artifical aids to do the soldering. 73, John F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (rly-dd05.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.152]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDD044-b774b10081e179; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 12:11:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD051-b774b10081e179; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 12:10:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NE4KL-0006If-Tc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:09:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NE4KL-0006IW-IY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:09:49 +0000 Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NE4KK-0001k2-S9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:09:49 +0000 Received: from aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091127170942.SLBQ27507.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:09:42 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.33] (really [82.22.242.219]) by aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20091127170942.VZNE22934.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.2.33]> for ; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:09:42 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:09:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4B1007CD.13398.2751AC@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=1ggfb5FlKZQUfF3vzm9UBYZ2uTfLsbs/8dSljwg5+mE= c=1 sm=0 a=9YlaCzn6_68A:10 a=3CJfESfmB92Y5CRQsi4A:9 a=SBPDfHXc5BZPM1scxmYA:7 a=FYsEwwi_tvA7HWbCVY2-D2ze7BYA:4 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Test 136.318 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 I am testing this evening by sending 'X' at QRSS120 on 136.3180kHz. If all goes well I will transmit until about 2230UTC. This is a preliminary soak test prior to some overnight transmissions later in the week. Thanks to F5VLF for the report on my QRSS60 transmission earlier. Mike, G3XDV ========== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc06.mx.aol.com (rly-mc06.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.90]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC022-d7f4af45a3f11; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:18:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC067-d7f4af45a3f11; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:17:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6SMQ-0005ce-BB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:12:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6SMP-0005cV-So for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:12:29 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6SLE-0007hn-4n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:11:20 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 06 Nov 2009 17:12:07 -0000 Received: from p5DD343BB.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO Clemens04) [93.211.67.187] by mail.gmx.net (mp059) with SMTP; 06 Nov 2009 18:12:07 +0100 X-Authenticated: #17214767 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/b965sMqfb/8qgbJAjIQXM88POBPFuH87SI2L9ci H+DbJobFlloIB4 Message-ID: <00e201ca5f04$44df8e50$0201a8c0@Clemens04> From: "Clemens Paul" To: References: <9afca2640911060845r17eb75daracad4f874c3a1c9c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 18:12:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.54,0.54 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: G3XBM: 500kHz ERP increased by 6dB - WSPR reports please Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00DE_01CA5F0C.A46B6B70" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00DE_01CA5F0C.A46B6B70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger, are you using the same dial frquency of 0.503910 +/-20Hz as before ? When does your transmission start? 73 Clemens DL4RAJ ----- Original Message ----- From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 5:45 PM Subject: LF: G3XBM: 500kHz ERP increased by 6dB - WSPR reports please Today I modified my 500kHz antenna. The 28MHz halo up at the top of the 5-6m vertical section (which was the coax feed to the 28MHz halo) was removed and replaced by a spiral inductance/ top capacity hat consisting of around around 8 "spiralling in" turns in the space occupied by the original halo. Seeing my initial reports from M0BMU I am some 5-6dB stronger than I was before, I guess because more of the antenna current is in the vertical section. The measured antenna current is not much different though. Please listen for me on 500kHz WSPR and let me know if I am now stronger than before. 73s Roger G3XBM -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.52/2484 - Release Date: 11/06/09 07:38:00 ------=_NextPart_000_00DE_01CA5F0C.A46B6B70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Roger,
 
ar= e you using the=20 same dial frquency of 0.503910= +/-20Hz as=20 before ?
When does your transmission start?
 
73
Clemens
DL4RAJ
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 06, 20= 09 5:45=20 PM
Subject: LF: G3XBM: 500kHz ER= P increased=20 by 6dB - WSPR reports please

Today I modified my 500kHz antenna. The 28MHz halo up= at the=20 top of the 5-6m vertical section (which was the coax feed to the 28M= Hz halo)=20 was removed and replaced by a spiral inductance/ top capacity hat co= nsisting=20 of around around 8 "spiralling in" turns in the space occupied by th= e original=20 halo.  Seeing my initial reports from M0BMU I am some 5-6dB= =20 stronger than I was before, I guess because more of the antenna= current is=20 in the vertical section. The measured antenna current is not much di= fferent=20 though.

Please listen for me on 500kHz WSPR and= let me=20 know if I am now stronger than before.

73s
Roger G3XBM
--=20
-------------------------------------------------------------http://g3xbm-qrp.blogs= pot.com/
http://www.g3xb= m.co.uk
G3XBM  =20  GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088


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------=_NextPart_000_00DE_01CA5F0C.A46B6B70-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df09.mx.aol.com (rly-df09.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.22]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF031-57b4b08005037c; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:59:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF098-57b4b08005037c; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:59:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBrPc-00068H-MP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:58:08 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBrPc-000688-3c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:58:08 +0000 Received: from out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.242]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBrPa-0001GO-6A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:58:08 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAE+OB0tZ8EAi/2dsb2JhbADTVYQ8BIMZ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,264,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="254732038" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([89.240.64.34]) by out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 21 Nov 2009 14:57:59 +0000 Message-ID: <005201ca6abb$0370e780$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <4B07ABA4.4060102@online.fr> <004601ca6ab3$a160b400$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <004501ca6ab4$9a81dd20$0517aac0@desktop> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:57:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Example Go to bed and leave the machines, wake up in the morning and count how many QSO'S they made, Who has the highest score to date ? Even better leave them for a week or so !! and go for the big numbers and with a confused data base you might get a PIRATE g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" To: Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 2:35 PM Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO and define unattended ... Andy www.g4jnt.com This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health and safety police 2009/11/21 James Cowburn : > How do you know they are unattended? > > > Jim > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton > Sent: 21 November 2009 14:05 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO > > Two unattended machines had a QSO!! Is that what you mean. > g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andy Talbot" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 1:52 PM > Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO > > > CanI suggest you read thoroughly the documentation on how the mode > works before making claims about the database.and validity. The > database can only be updated by stations decoding and reportoing, and > if each QSO partner has a reciprocal report in the database for > near-adjacent time intervals , then they MUST have been in contact > with eachother and cannot be classed as anything bu a valid QSO. Its > impossible to have achieved this in any other way. > > Please read all the documentation first. > > Andy > www.g4jnt.com > > This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health > and safety police > > > > 2009/11/21 Wolf Ostwald : >> Hello group ! >> >> >> >> I am not an expert with WSPR at all. But I followed the discussion > regarding >> false detection of calls thru the database. >> >> To my understanding the WSPR operator has NO way to really find out > whether >> the computer came to the right conclusion about the calls received, or >> whether it just judged by means of plausibility. We humans have no sense > for >> phaseshift, that means we have to believe the machine. >> >> I think that the database in the background is like a walking stick for > the >> blind. >> >> Of course it's a new and exciting technology, but I doubt that it is on > one >> and the same level with a regular exchange and therefore should not be >> considered equally verifying a valid contact. >> >> My two pence worth de wolf df2py >> >> > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db01.mx.aol.com (rly-db01.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.76]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB091-aa44af48dbc20c; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:57:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB012-aa44af48dbc20c; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:57:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6VrS-0006WB-6T for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:56:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6VrR-0006W2-PE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:56:45 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f211.google.com ([209.85.220.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6VqK-0000Qm-6U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:55:37 +0000 Received: by fxm3 with SMTP id 3so382955fxm.4 for ; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:56:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1rzLKhu0/2/kqwq3LljmTAvLz52k7Oqod7fTijn9uLk=; b=OvaM0lPCC3Hpp/YLycUGDWMeLl+LtcbX9jRH5FbR50OjSkFPcXyhVTYBsKhm1hMap9 HyofzT7vq/7t1nPxfRs9ijar/q9XfyKwjUaJD/cYDv1Ic8egqV4JNPyz+n1Jfh8B0oBO oMrxsI1hXj1PoSBBOtxFpWiqY3IA9vL28UIFU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=NfZ4mvLJEmWdZKAD9GANpNRW8hKmcC4nUDdwYI8MG+38Oe/5LQ58CCcGqKTZBDO2CM BoXSdOup8G31TcO00kx9bv/upivoNEA/7+qK4eWuxxjAMvs+Ef6+Lp+6KQNXY88QxeRt AqjRR6zE+E5i9M0kQMagVsbzRFzs28B03nelo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.160.144 with SMTP id n16mr4933023bkx.152.1257540997690; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:56:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4AF487B6.4090504@sighthound.demon.co.uk> References: <9afca2640911060845r17eb75daracad4f874c3a1c9c@mail.gmail.com> <4AF487B6.4090504@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 21:56:37 +0100 Message-ID: <9afca2640911061256r19dd6e30g5b4534a8b1c63a8f@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: G3XBM: 500kHz ERP increased by 6dB - WSPR reports please Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175d02ca7534690477ba1466 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d229.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0015175d02ca7534690477ba1466 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yes, I have this data via the WSPR database (selecting G3XBM/GM4SLV/forever/250spots). Definitely better than ever before. Will leave it overnight to seewho else finds me. Thanks again John 73s Roger G3XBM 2009/11/6 John P-G > > > Roger Lapthorn wrote: > >> *Please listen for me on 500kHz WSPR* and let me know if I am now stronger >> than before. >> > > Roger, > > 1st period decoded at -21dB > > Have you a record (mental or otherwise) of the normal spread of s/n figures > that I've recorded for you in the past? I'll leave the RX system running > overnight so you can gather some data to compare your new antenna with the > previous incarnation. > > Cheers, > > John > GM4SLV > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --0015175d02ca7534690477ba1466 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, I have this data via the WSPR database (selecting G3XBM/GM4SLV/foreve= r/250spots). Definitely better than ever before. Will leave it overnight= to seewho else finds me.

Thanks again John

73s
Roger G3X= BM

2009/11/6 John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.= uk>


Roger Lapthorn wrote:
*Please listen for me on 500kHz WSPR* and let me know if I am now stronger=
than before.

Roger,

1st period decoded at -21dB

Have you a record (mental or otherwise) of the normal spread of s/n figure= s that I've recorded for you in the past? I'll leave the RX system= running overnight so you can gather some data to compare your new antenna= with the previous incarnation.

Cheers,

John
GM4SLV




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--0015175d02ca7534690477ba1466-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb08.mx.aol.com (rly-mb08.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.166]) by air-mb05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB051-d244aff460331d; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:06:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB088-d244aff460331d; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:06:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9Scg-0002YL-HB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:05:42 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9Scg-0002YC-35 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:05:42 +0000 Received: from mcgi63.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.193]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9Scd-00074N-W4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:05:42 +0000 Received: from mcgi63.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi63.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE8F11516 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:05:34 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [81.195.15.221] by mcgi63.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:05:34 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:05:34 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <287859382.1258239176.158750212.87677@mcgi38.rambler.ru> <4AFF3A89.50604@ukonline.co.uk> Message-Id: <47576734.1258243534.51726072.14020@mcgi63.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Grabber is ON Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 PS: CW on the 501.055 are visible here too.Is not audible, but looking good on the screens. Who is it? EI0CF may be? * Peter Dodd [Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:17:29 +0000]: > Hi Roman. > > 501.05kHz > > Peter, G3LDO > > > > My grabber started on up to finished your activity. > > qrss.nm.ru -> grabber. > > Looking to 501.2-501.36 and 502.0 > > Whats a real freq, Peter? > > > > -- > > Roman RW3ADB. > > > > > > > > -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA021-8d04b01bfbc2eb; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:10:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA102-8d04b01bfbc2eb; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:10:22 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA8pA-0000MY-EK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:09:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA8p9-0000MP-Tr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:09:23 +0000 Received: from mail-pz0-f177.google.com ([209.85.222.177]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA8p8-0002xu-QN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:09:23 +0000 Received: by pzk7 with SMTP id 7so6730424pzk.30 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:09:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=icpEGyRmF8x2I+7xbdFo91rw4SAERe207IbFQ/JpXD0=; b=gbB6u8S6nH3e+3LDDlZKxIWvWeShTJGdtVwSLijueg5PB/c/3Qdbp9wopeq9QtBE/o i8+TlDcG/zub+hyco4IjY/KJ8nHniCm5L7SXezjYsTV7j73aFxivtj/oLYDmAaeqA+WM Sylu+8u7L28hYx7dVdwESs0o1pA+L+ZY1NFHs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=FOt6UjozuhwWuPExJrAffITVba8EIjbaiZ/P/NlpOs1o8lQSL17mnjgGn/508xLEQl yyvRo2visLLirWe5VFLigIzBGLyIZATvlprZHYblAxZouTy1p+eh6FX+VDU6Bsm5JSh9 /qP3jLd9IsoH7FhzmaTcJXDbHAwan/ShOfrsQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.177.21 with SMTP id z21mr477238rve.52.1258405754474; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:09:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091116214056.d7nc9v7srowggc88@webmail6.kuleuven.be> References: <20091116214056.d7nc9v7srowggc88@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:09:14 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1e8bacd0dccaf24f Message-ID: <1f0624b90911161309l24ff22b9r2c7725274023d953@mail.gmail.com> From: Gary - G4WGT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: WSPR Entry Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd212dafa90440478836b1c X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d282.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0cd212dafa90440478836b1c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Rik, Andy, LF, So it appears it is not just me :-)) I have had a few false decodes & usually the time slot has a pulse of local noise. Tonight seen on my saved grabber images the 1906 slot I believe was Andy's WSPR signal split into two parts with QSB & a strong noise pulse. 73, Gary - G4WGT. 2009/11/16 Rik Strobbe > Andy, > > note that the 2 hits have the same timestamp but different frequency. > You can more of these double "fake" hits: > > 2009-01-30 20:00 Y23LWM 0.137592 -26 0 AC23 10 DF6NM JN59nk > 18083 194 > 2009-01-30 20:00 Y23LWM 0.137568 +8 0 AC23 10 DF6NM JN59nk > 18083 194 > > 2009-10-22 05:18 CE8QNK 0.503890 -21 -3 OB23 0.005 SQ2BXI > JO94gj 15730 291 > 2009-10-22 05:18 CE8QNK 0.503969 -25 -3 OB23 0.005 SQ2BXI > JO94gj 15730 291 > > 2009-11-08 04:50 G17LSZ 0.503817 -27 -2 GA37 0.01 SQ2BXI > JO94gj 15730 62 > 2009-11-08 04:50 G17LSZ 0.503829 -26 -2 GA37 0.01 SQ2BXI > JO94gj 15730 62 > > 2009-11-12 21:12 E51OOP 0.503999 -33 3 GB06 0.1 G4WGT > IO83qo 14761 42 > 2009-11-12 21:12 E51OOP 0.503810 -25 3 GB06 0.1 G4WGT > IO83qo 14761 42 > > 2009-05-17 21:28 EN6WV 0.503858 -17 -4 MD07 200 GM4ISM > IO85ar 13421 324 > 2009-05-17 21:28 EN6WV 0.503850 -24 -4 MD07 200 GM4ISM > IO85ar 13421 324 > > 2009-09-08 19:42 NE9GWP 0.503876 -24 1 OG12 0.5 G0HNW > IO93cn 13386 318 > 2009-09-08 19:42 NE9GWP 0.503851 -23 1 OG12 0.5 G0HNW > IO93cn 13386 318 > > 2009-09-19 10:16 1Y3X 0.503556 -33 1 AD87 2 K1JT FN20 > 13336 61 > 2009-09-19 10:16 1Y3X 0.503468 -32 1 AD87 2 K1JT FN20 > 13336 61 > > and so on ... > > 73, Rik > > > Quoting Andy Talbot : > > Found in the database. Two consecutive hits with the same details >> suggests an incorrectly set station.. >> >> Uraguay, in Central Africa !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> >> 2009-11-16 19:06 CW5PPT 0.503997 -30 3 KJ31 +53 199.526 G4WGT >> IO83qo 6399 3976 >> 2009-11-16 19:06 CW5PPT 0.503849 -15 3 KJ31 +53 199.526 G4WGT >> IO83qo 6399 3976 >> >> >> Andy >> www.g4jnt.com >> >> this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny state >> >> >> > > > --000e0cd212dafa90440478836b1c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rik, Andy, LF,

So it appears it is not just me :-))

I have had a few false decodes & usually the tim= e slot has a pulse of local noise.

Tonight seen= on my saved grabber images the 1906 slot I believe was Andy's WSPR si= gnal split into two parts with QSB & a strong noise pulse.

73,

Gary - G4WGT.
<= br>
2009/11/16 Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuv= en.be>
Andy,

note that the 2 hits have the same timestamp but different frequency.
You can more of these double "fake" hits:

2009-01-30 20:00 =A0 Y23LWM =A0 0.137592 =A0 -26 =A0 0 =A0 AC23 =A0 10 =A0= DF6NM =A0 JN59nk =A0 18083 =A0 194
2009-01-30 20:00 =A0 Y23LWM =A0 0.137568 =A0 +8 =A0 0 =A0 AC23 =A0 10 =A0= DF6NM =A0 JN59nk =A0 18083 =A0 194

2009-10-22 05:18 =A0 CE8QNK =A0 0.503890 =A0 -21 =A0 -3 =A0 OB23 =A0 0.005= =A0 SQ2BXI =A0 JO94gj =A0 15730 =A0 291
=A02009-10-22 05:18 =A0 CE8QNK =A0 0.503969 =A0 -25 =A0 -3 =A0 OB23 =A0 0.= 005 =A0 SQ2BXI =A0 JO94gj =A0 15730 =A0 291

2009-11-08 04:50 =A0 G17LSZ =A0 0.503817 =A0 -27 =A0 -2 =A0 GA37 =A0 0.01= =A0 SQ2BXI =A0JO94gj =A0 15730 =A0 62
2009-11-08 04:50 =A0 G17LSZ =A0 0.503829 =A0 -26 =A0 -2 =A0 GA37 =A0 0.01= =A0 SQ2BXI =A0JO94gj =A0 15730 =A0 62

2009-11-12 21:12 =A0 E51OOP =A0 0.503999 =A0 -33 =A0 3 =A0 GB06 =A0 0.1 = =A0 G4WGT =A0 IO83qo =A0 14761 =A0 42
2009-11-12 21:12 =A0 E51OOP =A0 0.503810 =A0 -25 =A0 3 =A0 GB06 =A0 0.1 = =A0 G4WGT =A0 IO83qo =A0 14761 =A0 42

2009-05-17 21:28 =A0 EN6WV =A0 0.503858 =A0 -17 =A0 -4 =A0 MD07 =A0 200 = =A0 GM4ISM =A0 IO85ar =A0 13421 =A0 324
2009-05-17 21:28 =A0 EN6WV =A0 0.503850 =A0 -24 =A0 -4 =A0 MD07 =A0 200 = =A0 GM4ISM =A0 IO85ar =A0 13421 =A0 324

2009-09-08 19:42 =A0 NE9GWP =A0 0.503876 =A0 -24 =A0 1 =A0 OG12 =A0 0.5 = =A0 G0HNW =A0 IO93cn =A0 13386 =A0 318
2009-09-08 19:42 =A0 NE9GWP =A0 0.503851 =A0 -23 =A0 1 =A0 OG12 =A0 0.5 = =A0 G0HNW =A0 IO93cn =A0 13386 =A0 318

2009-09-19 10:16 =A0 1Y3X =A0 0.503556 =A0 -33 =A0 1 =A0 AD87 =A0 2 =A0 K1= JT =A0 FN20 =A0=A013336 =A0 61
2009-09-19 10:16 =A0 1Y3X =A0 0.503468 =A0 -32 =A0 1 =A0 AD87 =A0 2 =A0 K1= JT =A0 FN20 =A0=A013336 =A0 61

and so on ...

73, Rik


Quoting Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>:

Found in the database. =A0Two consecutive hits with the same details
suggests an incorrectly set station..

Uraguay, in Central Africa !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2009-11-16 19:06=A0=A0CW5PPT=A0=A00.503997=A0=A0-30=A0=A03=A0=A0KJ31=A0=A0= +53=A0=A0199.526=A0=A0G4WGT
IO83qo=A0=A06399=A0=A03976
2009-11-16 19:06=A0=A0CW5PPT=A0=A00.503849=A0=A0-15=A0=A03=A0=A0KJ31=A0=A0= +53=A0=A0199.526=A0=A0G4WGT
IO83qo=A0=A06399=A0=A03976


Andy
www.g4jnt.com

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--000e0cd212dafa90440478836b1c-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (rly-dd05.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.152]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD012-b7b4b080af02c9; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:45:06 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD055-b7b4b080af02c9; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:44:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBs7w-0006hP-Pw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:43:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBs7w-0006hG-Dt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:43:56 +0000 Received: from out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.244]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBs7v-0000RZ-ST for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:43:56 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAOSYB0tOkTcm/2dsb2JhbADTT4Q8BA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,264,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="244925676" Received: from unknown (HELO laptopcore2) ([78.145.55.38]) by out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net with ESMTP; 21 Nov 2009 15:43:50 +0000 From: "g3zjo" To: Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:43:49 -0000 Message-ID: <001101ca6ac1$6bad91d0$0202a8c0@laptopcore2> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 >Can only dream of working dx like this on cw ... >2009-11-21 13:54 9M3KKR 0.503906 -23 1 OL69 1000 G3ZJO >IO92ng 8894 325 >mind you after watching the movie ...perhaps machine's can dream as >well ? That is the one big thing I have against WSPR, I almost begged Joe not to include any predictive (lets try and make a sensible call - qra - report out of this junk) decoding in the early days of the mode. Rubbish info should stay as rubbish. Who also has not seen the message - PSE QSY 10.140868975MHZ - on WSPR, when you QSY there is never anyone there:-) Eddie G3ZJO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (rly-dg10.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.94]) by air-dg04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG041-5f94af728a520a; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:23:10 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG104-5f94af728a520a; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:23:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7EHB-0000hm-CG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:22:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7EHA-0000hb-TT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:22:16 +0000 Received: from out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.243]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7EGE-0002Kx-9k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:21:18 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqkEAPq29kpcHccI/2dsb2JhbACEOtR6hD4E X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,704,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="211082883" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([92.29.199.8]) by out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 08 Nov 2009 20:22:10 +0000 Message-ID: <02b001ca60b1$28a154e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <027601ca60a2$841cd150$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:22:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 7:26 PM Subject: LF: Re: WSPR > Dear Mal, LF Group, > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mal hamilton" > > >>WSPR reports amongst stns indicate reception reports usually minus dB. >>Most >>of these stations are usually PLUS dB >with me or very close to that >>figure. >>So what does that prove. > > It proves the SNR is higher at the output of your receiver than it is at > whatever other stations you are talking about > > >>I would say it depends on the RX antenna and not necessarily propagation. > > So how then does the signal reach the RX antenna? Radio wave propagation > has > always to be involved somewhere! > > >>A large antenna yields better results than a small loop or active whip. > > Not if the small loop or whip are designed to achieve adequate SNR at the > frequency of interest. > > >>When I switch from my 1/4 wave inv L for 500 khz to a smaller 40 m >>resonated loop for 500 the signals then do go >down to a minus db figure. >>So what is all this all ABOUT ? > > It is probably about the different directional patterns of the vertical > and > loop antennas, resulting in different signal and noise levels at the > receiver, and therefore different values of SNR. Or maybe your loop just > doesn't work very well. > > >>There is also the TX pwr to consider. Two transmitters from the same >>location one using QRO and the other QRP will be >received at different >>levels at a specified RX location. There is a lot of misrepresentation and >>misleading information by >WSPR operator > > This applies also to CW or any other type of signal. It is a bit rich for > someone so shy of giving figures for his TX power to suggest others are > being misleading... > > >>A trace of the signal is visible long before a decode takes place, >>therefore why not use QRS in the first place. > > Because a trace of signal is just that; a decoded WSPR signal contains > station ID, location, and power information, making it much more useful, > without the operator actually having to watch a computer screen 24 hours a > day. I disagree with your observations above and are you saying there is no ID, LOCATION info when using CW or QRS I agree you do not need an operator, no skills necessary, just leave it to unattended machines. A good CW operator would have station ID, QTH and RST exchanged while others are waiting for WSPR to decode. G3KEV > > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.55/2489 - Release Date: 11/08/09 07:37:00 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me01.mx.aol.com (rly-me01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.34]) by air-me07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME073-9974b07f3d62e8; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:06:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME013-9974b07f3d62e8; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:06:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBqaW-0005fN-8h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:05:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBqaV-0005fE-S2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:05:19 +0000 Received: from out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.237]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBqaV-0008KA-9z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:05:19 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAJeCB0tZ8EAi/2dsb2JhbADTd4Q8BIMZ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,264,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="112371245" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([89.240.64.34]) by out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 21 Nov 2009 14:05:08 +0000 Message-ID: <004601ca6ab3$a160b400$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <4B07ABA4.4060102@online.fr> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:05:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Two unattended machines had a QSO!! Is that what you mean. g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" To: Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 1:52 PM Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO CanI suggest you read thoroughly the documentation on how the mode works before making claims about the database.and validity. The database can only be updated by stations decoding and reportoing, and if each QSO partner has a reciprocal report in the database for near-adjacent time intervals , then they MUST have been in contact with eachother and cannot be classed as anything bu a valid QSO. Its impossible to have achieved this in any other way. Please read all the documentation first. Andy www.g4jnt.com This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health and safety police 2009/11/21 Wolf Ostwald : > Hello group ! > > > > I am not an expert with WSPR at all. But I followed the discussion regarding > false detection of calls thru the database. > > To my understanding the WSPR operator has NO way to really find out whether > the computer came to the right conclusion about the calls received, or > whether it just judged by means of plausibility. We humans have no sense for > phaseshift, that means we have to believe the machine. > > I think that the database in the background is like a walking stick for the > blind. > > Of course it’s a new and exciting technology, but I doubt that it is on one > and the same level with a regular exchange and therefore should not be > considered equally verifying a valid contact. > > My two pence worth de wolf df2py > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG093-a054af5699b32b; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:35:47 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG037-a054af5699b32b; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:35:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6kUv-0000RK-Bd for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:34:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6kUu-0000R6-3P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:34:28 +0000 Received: from mail2.citigroup.com ([192.193.221.104] helo=mail.citigroup.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6kUr-0000qJ-Lh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:34:27 +0000 Received: from imbhub-mw03.nam.nsroot.net ([159.17.94.190]) by imbaspam-ss02.namdmz.dmzroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_EXT/ev: 24741 $) with ESMTP id nA7CYHK0008772 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 12:34:18 GMT Received: from exlniht01.eur.nsroot.net (exlniht01.eur.nsroot.net [169.186.207.97]) by imbhub-mw03.nam.nsroot.net (Switch-3.4.0/Switch-3.4.0) with ESMTP id nA7CYGsu013796 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 12:34:17 GMT Received: from exlnht01.eur.nsroot.net (169.182.192.16) by exlniht01.eur.nsroot.net (169.186.207.97) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.375.2; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 12:34:16 +0000 Received: from exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net ([169.186.207.105]) by exlnht01.eur.nsroot.net ([169.182.192.16]) with mapi; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 12:34:16 +0000 From: "Scholz, Marco " To: "'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'" Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 12:34:12 +0000 Thread-Topic: tnx QSO OE5ODL - DD7PC, QRSS +/-137.705KHz Thread-Index: AcpfppxsvDx0P7b0TOmbdbEU0Y+/Hg== Message-ID: <254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C74A83BA@exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net> Accept-Language: en-US, en-GB Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US, en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WiganSS: 01000000010018exlniht01.eur.nsroot.net ID0044<254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C74A83BA@exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 169.175.16.181 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: tnx QSO OE5ODL - DD7PC, QRSS +/-137.705KHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Ossy, many thanks again for fb random QSO an hour ago. Very relaxed QSO with your OOO signal. Conditions not perfect due some light rain this morning. vy73 Marco DD7PC, JN49ax From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (rly-dc01.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.30]) by air-dc06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC063-afe4b034a6d101; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:14:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC012-afe4b034a6d101; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:14:22 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAZ6r-0007pi-RN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:13:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAZ6r-0007pZ-DF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:13:25 +0000 Received: from smtp823.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.233]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAZ6q-0003pX-OK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:13:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 18266 invoked from network); 18 Nov 2009 01:13:18 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=FBmYl5/w5b27CbRxhGw9Euh4Ut8eX6BddJJNGzZrBpgGn6+6vvhjD7CHAZTMrNjCuXb+g/uSF6EJ6VHVkMSlxpdBVf10eYbyLGP7eMZy5dQXch+Yd6xKJIc3jZ2hSTJAznNCR89moqKZnukSLFuQ8fuy4Duh4OsPFLjdZnLoeis= ; Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.177.107.201 with login) by smtp823.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Nov 2009 01:13:18 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: qKIhhNCswBB2TTHr2BORWcGGR2mpopxhCcunGIxpCKQYiG07Q7UOhNo- X-YMail-OSG: MyibOZMVM1kMaFuCwYng6tQRFBDmHNgDVVg.4GnGUaSm_6hFURMLFvjMLNworPQwFk1dzOhTfCZvj.SIRbqFjOBXlwqh6ncyJJzr8hiRGhb9bBQs5lOaDRbDwnejjkrb8vnbbs2e.lgbVmQz6TmoF.3VQwmbcBg4dFWBXvfvVAmiK9MhZGhILxeAiHGUsenEJDdhclKUC9RBpHoLhqjU5kB.uCNTuYP8entg1SLiej1rfJ0.3X4aNKmE_aAl0Ao15gzBt4XcuNUESYgBMHs6w9g2zWkBqS1kpF.VgQVZm34RStX.ilIp_4DdyPANMWisl_.bhg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "James Moritz" To: References: <017801ca66fb$0bf91c60$0517aac0@jimdesk> In-Reply-To: <017801ca66fb$0bf91c60$0517aac0@jimdesk> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:13:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Jim LF Group, Looking at the sidebands on the G7NKS WSPR signals, mains hum or other noise by itself is not a sufficient explanation of what is seen. Simply adding 50Hz, 150Hz, etc. noise into the PC audio channel, then feeding the result into an SSB TX would give unwanted CW at frequencies offset from the SSB carrier frequency by +/-50Hz, 150Hz and so on, i.e. with the carrier "dial frequency" at 502.4kHz, unmodulated carriers would appear at 502.45kHz, 502.55kHz and so on, in addition to the WSPR signal at around 503.9kHz. However, these would probably largely be removed by the SSB filter in the rig. Instead, we see unwanted sidebands offset from the wanted WSPR signal frequency by +/- 50Hz, 150Hz, with identical modulation to the wanted signal. This requires some sort of non-linear process to cause the intermodulation between the presumed mains noise and the WSPR signal somewhere in the TX chain. One possibility is that intermodulation occurs in the PA. Jim's description suggests that he is persuading the HF PA in the IC735 to produce output at 500k. At this frequency, the PA linearity may well be poor due to the impedance matching, coupling, decoupling and feedback components in the PA being wrong for the frequency, and high flux densities occuring in ferrite components due to the low operating frequency. But this wouldn't explain why Jim also gets multiple received signals from a strong station with a clean signal, which implies some identical noise source and distortion in the receive path. It would also mean the mains noise getting through the filtering in the rig somehow. A possibility that would explain the unwanted sidebands appearing on both TX and RX signals is if one of the oscillators in the system has mains noise sidebands. The sound card clock seems unlikely, since this is just a simple crystal oscillator. I see the IC735 has some sort of multi-loop PLL synthesiser, which would certainly be prone to this type of spurious signal, since any kind of mains noise getting in would modulate the VCO frequencies, and would probably be the same on transmit and receive. This could be checked by receiving a clean carrier somewhere around 500kHz, and examining the audio output using Spec Lab or Argo or similar to see if 50Hz and 150Hz sidebands are present on the received audio tone. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Cowburn" To: Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:26 PM Subject: LF: rule #2 - assumption is the brother of all foul ups > LF > > > > Sidebands are back! I think its caused by my TX getting hot and bothered > by > struggling at 500. From cold it txs 50 watts but this soon drops back to > around 35, and the sidebands appear. My sigs are better so having the > txfr > outside the shack and at the antenna is a vast improvement, but I now need > to work on the cooling. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDB063-ada4b0c7a152bf; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:28:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB078-ada4b0c7a152bf; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:28:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ND5iJ-0008Ro-MQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:26:31 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ND5iJ-0008Rf-2z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:26:31 +0000 Received: from smtp826.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.189.240]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ND5iG-0006Ma-Dr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:26:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 79395 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2009 00:26:22 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=daT0Y1H2HzCS4ZTw1OAVXS1OTRdQUiN+Nnh2psJFguq0J2NeZq9p86F0kHLgETH06miPK6Xi8/dy4HdpvOWpfjwhtHmtXemAEKt/aA/K9KDXR7Bk99W2NCDr1X7F7Rt2x9TbWAt28v3Udo1ZkIgrij53fEmLJjUkQ3IwGeT05hQ= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@213.122.25.184 with login) by smtp826.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 2009 00:26:21 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: KHdpK2OswBBXlm4uxknbEiS4uYdJoGknHN90u4K8__lTafnafZg- X-YMail-OSG: KTSBqXkVM1mWEznLMy12Ae6_PS_rPFbE39p18yiE1ZK0QTRIz_T0d8K2LOitjWYkVOVhz3joXmurcR8UpnGwt4DbOSN0aYaCpZ9zck4kfSK0xnhtepQP0Z9Yi2OytTDFi47c8Ac54FwGzincH5CrKg9GDXN9t9iTiUU.vvcO_t4hcCpsJ0dCWvPjFqkIzthEBnYcV.HrYBWG8ie9indXBesHeqRCvKSJ1avQhxVWaJ852_GaFNOzC96Vz6yY9fQMiCF7CRHqpandjN7kDiTZzyyle7yFGg.So.JLoEVsnJkzKOvCpj6Wx7NveTcEYC5boq5zq.Dzf.peF8qCokw7m_p9lDw- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <003d01ca6d65$fd72e3d0$0900a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <9afca2640911241140j230515e9kcbcaffd3911ccb82@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:15:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: IRF510 500kHz PA stability issues - advice please Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Andy it is our experience that a properly tuned single ended Class-E PA is fairly docile and its power drops if presented with a mis-matched load. What you MUST NOT DO is tune the PA to the aerial. The PA should be tuned into its design resistive load and then the aerial adjusted to provide the right (same) load. Too low or too high and you will probably not get current draw from the FET. There is a great temptation to retune the PA at this point, but this certainly can be fatal, and is not the right thing to do. I have no doubt there are some conditions where the phase of the reflected impedance from the antenna could give excessive voltages on the FET but Mike GW4HXO, Finbar and a few other who have used the design equations, and this procedure, havent lost a FET though aerial mis-match (as far as I know!). In fact Mike transmitted into an open when his aerial broke one night. I advise a simple RF bridge to check that your aerial is what you think it is....tuning, and tap changing, on aerial current alone is like driving blind. Once you have the resonance and match right, then all you should need are slight alterations to take up different weather conditions. I seem to remember you can some strange parasitic resonances on your tuning system on 136 at one time which were a bit troublesome?. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:00 PM Subject: Re: LF: IRF510 500kHz PA stability issues - advice please If you've studied the drain waveform when operating inrto a correct load, and assuming its all within design guidelines, then the trouble is because of nasty impedances presented by the antenna during the tuning process. What sort of antenna matching are you using? The often suggested idea of an an adjustable tap onto the loading coil can lead to damage as, when the antenna is detuned, the small number of turns of the link, with an untuned coil, appear not far different from a short circuit. A Class E PA, when presented with a slightly inductive short circuit can get a bit stressed. On my antenna over the years on 73, 137 now 500kHz the system has always been fed in series, using a ferrite tapped transformer to match load impedance. I kept well away from tapped or link windings as they are not easy to calculate or predict reliably. WIth a series fed system, a detuned antenna results in a high impedance. This may not always good news either to some class-E designs, but all my LF/MF PAs are completely open-circuit-proof voltage fed designs. The only true class-E one here was for 1.8MHz, and can be seen at http://www.g4jnt.com/TopbandPA.pdf . This was completely imune to open and short circuits and seemed very robust; but I did use the meatier and more robust higher voltage IRF540. Doesn't the IRF510 only have a 100V rating? Andy www.g4jnt.com This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health and safety police 2009/11/24 Roger Lapthorn : > I've been using a single IRF510 FET PA stage on 500kHz and it produces > around 6-7W of RF. But, when adjusting my antenna I've managed to damage > several devices now. I think the stage is running somewhere towards class-E > looking at the PA drain waveform on the scope and I believe either the stage > is going unstable or it is running in a condition in which too much current > (and heat) is taken and the device fails.500kHz teh ant > > Are there any simple "rules of thumb" or design/biasing/decoupling > guidelines to ensure that my devices don't destroy themselves with a less > than perfect load? > > Any simple advice would be appreciated. > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > > > > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD031-9124b097241ac; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:18:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD072-9124b097241ac; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:18:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCG0b-0003tq-NU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:13:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCG0b-0003th-B5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:13:57 +0000 Received: from mail-ew0-f223.google.com ([209.85.219.223]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCG0Y-00052O-2Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:13:57 +0000 Received: by ewy23 with SMTP id 23so610597ewy.4 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:13:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=JDwOvr6tYnVMuJlg3Zu4RUkhEznd84k6NXGAhLuDZ3Y=; b=A8prBj1WXTy2RUw9Epf0vBCl4Z7vMzPZWORkYid/9T4KNdutQMzaAPsB/Dikk+8d1C fJ69fj5C3fLqjc3Is53wSrU6+FTMFrckcIB57XzFdBofmB/6lnNLEciwxG7sBVd0b4id VxsDda6QDefUvHy5NtZItBg967RLmB9+kBFWM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=I+z1q4EjLJmd1BpPzVqODedLbK74wtsYlDiew3YFOKdijuS3/1YRzeB4/rrVX5CA91 Yb93tS1TsDGc4C1urUwxAnIipHw0WGWcChhNihwX8ozcJM0PcdhyFH+Mlzndo1cAAF4D CY7P4eVJ3X7kzkGsw77jQCL3Dk/0alNW6wVbM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.24.15 with SMTP id t15mr3760786ebb.42.1258910004785; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:13:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:13:24 +0100 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Anton_B=E4rtschi?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: G3KEV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cdfc626a3b23c0478f8d316 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m237.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0cdfc626a3b23c0478f8d316 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 You are "O" here, dear Mal, ufb. Sorry we couldn't make it. Probably my antenna is to small. It seems to me, that my limit is around 800-900km on Longwave. Power is 1kW and I can't get much higher. But one day, we may get the permission for 500kHz and there it should be much easier, even in normal CW. 73 de Toni, HB9ASB --000e0cdfc626a3b23c0478f8d316 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You are "O" here, dear Mal, ufb. Sorry we couldn't make it.= Probably my antenna is to small. It seems to me, that my limit is around= 800-900km on Longwave. Power is 1kW and I can't get much higher. But= one day, we may get the permission for 500kHz and there it should be much= easier, even in normal CW.
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--000e0cdfc626a3b23c0478f8d316-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB102-ad44afc9486384; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:05:00 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB072-ad44afc9486384; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:04:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8ihZ-0008W3-LR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:03:41 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8ihZ-0008Vu-3x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:03:41 +0000 Received: from smtp827.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.13.162]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8ihW-00009b-HY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:03:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 19140 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2009 23:03:33 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=Jo5oQRnGVU6cHhNTpOvnUENN9y8ukzLtPQeNFB+6VzZrEUGwIl+D1QbBYfjYP34dy1Eg7Zm4lWKGEza50g2MF99T0BB4mFQb1ZnVE/QW0txZtLPQmghypaDFq85wg8gAE/daTX53xYQuLZMg1BNt0SsYZ2DwGEvz+J+SFwvvKs4= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@213.122.7.123 with login) by smtp827.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Nov 2009 23:03:32 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: KHdpK2OswBBXlm4uxknbEiS4uYdJoGknHN90u4K8__lTafnafZg- X-YMail-OSG: EedsYdcVM1m2eB3bpaxMun8bSwxj0lBd1i6K21QZQquNrGUQzeVYDv.rejZNgLh.VPllWP_VD16G3MaYh3wUqokjr_n2bHlpRjFUPNYoe1BbolqjzUN3Se4vaLqH5peRBdM61ufCI5_3jEK1NCcnaWgCVkrTE5_tHEs_iIHsUg3Eaf4x2oG7WNxByOI0t9DyBNlpl9szmFm6IXUownlXBgZuZa5JEGXEbieHsSj3kPbyPL79jDvJ3WU4eJBjlg15lLxAt4GTxVJdrgJhZZVRHO.HrUiaT7wijOiIhx_ZRJ4HakRMSIYiwM4rOaFKao.IJGy.HaJ.Xl.Rkn6gT5TRAC1Y4A-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <001801ca63ec$609a7f50$0900a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <563642.98089.qm@web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:02:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Graham its like our Offcomm....read it that it doesnt say they can't! Dont ask or the answer is always NO, the safest response for a Civil Serpent :-)) Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham" To: Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 10:33 PM Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Peter, I'm reading that .. but what am I reading ..is it yes or no ? G.. From: M0FMT Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:55 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Just more boring old Beacon stations claging up MF.....look on RAC web site... http://www.rac.ca/ ........ 2008-11-10 Canadian Amateurs on 600 Metres Industry Canada has accepted an RAC proposal whereby selected Canadian radio amateurs would be permitted to operate in the vicinity of 500 kHz. These amateur operations would support Canada's efforts to action a proposal on the agenda of the 2011 World Radio Conference (WRC2011) which, if adopted, would create an amateur allocation in the 600-meter band. Industry Canada have authorized RAC to recommend amateurs who would be licensed to operate in the 504 to 509 kHz band with a maximum power of 20 watts ERP and bandwidth up to 1 kHz. Stations operating in this band would be technically operating under Special Developmental Licenses although they would all be radio amateurs. Distinct call signs would be used and the licenses would be renewable annually subject to the amateur demonstrating the research he has carried out. More information will follow shortly in the pages of TCA or via subsequent bulletins. Bryan Rawlings VE3QN/VE2QNN Radio Amateurs of/du Canada, Inc. 73 petefmt --- On Thu, 12/11/09, Graham wrote: From: Graham Subject: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 21:43 Can anyone clarify the situation as to who can work who is this the same as the USA ? Tnx - G .. From the IARU web site As of 30 October 2009 Canada issued two licences in the Developmental Service in the range 504-509 kHz. a.. VE1ZZ has been assigned VX9PSO and is reported on 504.6 kHz b.. VO1NA has been assigned VX9MRC and is reported on 507.77 and 508.5 kHz Two more stations, VE3OHH and VE7BDQ, are expected to become active soon. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb04.mx.aol.com (rly-mb04.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.162]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB024-d044aed76582b8; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 06:52:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB048-d044aed76582b8; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 06:51:53 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N4YxU-0003zm-Tb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 11:50:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N4YxU-0003zd-Gw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 11:50:56 +0000 Received: from mx01.infotech.at ([213.174.240.1]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N4YxG-0006he-2f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 11:50:44 +0000 Received: from [213.174.228.193] by mx01.infotech.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N4YxE-0001qA-K8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:50:41 +0100 Message-ID: <4AED7637.1040008@inext.at> Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:51:19 +0100 From: Oberreiter Oswald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: test cpm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) hallo henny LF test cpm good signal on 136.550 15 dB o.Nois 73 de ossi oe5odl jn68rd From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df11.mx.aol.com (rly-df11.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.24]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF013-58c4af881b5222; 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------=_NextPart_000_0045_01CA617E.A5DBF5F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da01.mx.aol.com (rly-da01.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.75]) by air-da02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA021-a494affe24237a; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:13:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA011-a494affe24237a; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:13:07 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9d1g-0005ql-6r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:12:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9d1f-0005qc-RE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:12:11 +0000 Received: from smtp22.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.11]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9d1f-0000S6-80 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:12:11 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2222.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 98762700008F for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:12:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (13.233.197-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.197.233.13]) by msfrf2222.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 52514700008E for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:12:03 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091115111203337.52514700008E@msfrf2222.sfr.fr Message-ID: <001601ca65e4$76cd10e0$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:12:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091114-1, 14/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.8 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUB_HELLO=1.76 Subject: LF: hello LUBOS Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01CA65EC.D82856D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, SUB_HELLO,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01CA65EC.D82856D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HI LUBOS LF Group Many thanks for qso lubos ur MM in JN16WA good sunday for ALL Claude F8boj ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01CA65EC.D82856D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0013_01CA65EC.D82856D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db05.mx.aol.com (rly-db05.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.80]) by air-db02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB021-ac64af1f69036; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:48:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB054-ac64af1f69036; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:48:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N5nh5-0007gF-OG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:47:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N5nh5-0007g6-Bx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:47:07 +0000 Received: from mail-ew0-f219.google.com ([209.85.219.219]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N5nfn-0005sF-Q4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:45:48 +0000 Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so5335162ewy.4 for ; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:47:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=n/wA6LnaNCSvEGFQXg7PEY/15Pjl+Pn7wlFG+H3u8UI=; b=wN3WdiNmRoB9x153gqabBOKroynpYNqy0zqqoEi95TPIhsNH6tghKNRsbd9EXuIZ6/ M1OGtk4a05bXv3PEbAPwpiVfgVc8Rw2ACe8foJMHLstvKPVky9x1rGt3nKcxIuNGzl9v ItDEjiZQ8VgOQy92aOY2MvOnslBycqAg9UIrw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=j/iUtMIyZjZSKuFBfgArK8bqoyu11mXV34/0l5lxxg1GFAw6CPz7BHbAFp2Jx5vcON FM9Mu7gcxzGcj1yHU0U5C9FkWdo20yyJ8aAmL8RweTZryjWo4ZmYpIXGscIQsyYkQvhu RjHfNXq8P6pH54o0a8DVJ8q1gU1Sws8gjNYeo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.91.13 with SMTP id g13mr665076wef.36.1257371220204; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:47:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C6EE3533@exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net> References: <254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C6EE3533@exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:47:00 +0000 Message-ID: <8bf118410911041347w4d43131eode41c73cda2bde0c@mail.gmail.com> From: Dave Pick To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Who on +/-137.710KHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d975e1ee5d920477928cac X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m268.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0016e6d975e1ee5d920477928cac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Probably OE5ODL, maybe a dot got lost, changing the 5 to an "H"? Dave G3YXM 2009/11/4 Scholz, Marco > Hello, > I have in this moment (21:22UTC) a very good signal on 137. 710KHz. I > copied OEH and ODL! Who was it? > > An hour ago DI2BJ on 505.030 in CW with a booming signal. Looks like beacon > is off air now. > > vy73 > Marco > DD7PC, JN49ax > -- G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK --0016e6d975e1ee5d920477928cac Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Probably OE5ODL, maybe a dot got lost, changing the 5 to an "H"?

Dave G3YXM

2009/11/4 Scholz, Marco <marco.scholz@citi.com>
Hello,
I have in this moment (21:22UTC) a very good signal on 137. 710KHz. I copied OEH and ODL! Who was it?

An hour ago DI2BJ on 505.030 in CW with a booming signal. Looks like beacon is off air now.

vy73
Marco
DD7PC, JN49ax



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G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK
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(VPS 091114-1, 14/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 137kHz grabber in SP Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Jacek LF Congratulations on opening your grabber still possibility thank you for europe the pleasure of seeing my transmission to you Claude F8boj JN16WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roman RW3ADB" To: Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 3:50 AM Subject: Re: LF: 137kHz grabber in SP > > Hi Jacek, LF! > Congratulation with the grabber started! > Put your QTH locator to the page next time. > And put "offset" to Spectrum lab pse for the screening a real freq rule. > > * Jacek Lipkowski [Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:38:59 > +0100 (CET)]: > > I've set up a temporary 137kHz grabber. QTH is Warsaw, Poland KO02md. > RX > > is an ex-DDR EKV03 with a mini-whip active antenna. Currently it is > set > > for QRSS3. It is in a nice mid-point between active grabbers in DL and > > RU. > > > > The url is http://acid.ch.pw.edu.pl/~sq5bpf/grabber/ > > > > This area has high qrm, so if you see yourself on the grabber - > > congratulations :) > > > > I will leave it on all night in case anyone is interested, later it > will > > be avaliable upon request. > > > > VY 73 > > > > Jacek / SQ5BPF > > > > > > > > 73! > -- > Roman RW3ADB. > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc11.mx.aol.com (rly-mc11.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.95]) by air-mc07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC071-da54afe2c309a; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:04:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC115-da54afe2c309a; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:04:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N99qK-00074N-Pm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 04:02:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N99qK-00074E-40 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 04:02:32 +0000 Received: from rekin26.go2.pl ([193.17.41.76]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N99qH-0001dW-NA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 04:02:32 +0000 Received: from rekin26.go2.pl (rekin26.go2.pl [127.0.0.1]) by rekin26.go2.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E09635D7B2 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 05:02:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from unknown (unknown [10.0.0.142]) by rekin26.go2.pl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 05:02:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from 58-178-124-188.rev.pro-internet.pl [188.124.178.58] by poczta.o2.pl with ESMTP id YrbbQK; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 05:02:27 +0100 Message-ID: <007e01ca64df$463a2220$3ab27cbc@niurhaxf0xcqlj> From: "Marcin" To: References: <004001ca646a$c6ec0cf0$3ab27cbc@niurhaxf0xcqlj> <006401ca64af$954964f0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <96512D470572478EB84804542242B39F@White> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 05:02:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-O2-Trust: 2, 61 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: sp2kds Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Markus, Claude, Dmitri, Andrey, Mal, LF Today LF QSO: DK7FC/p random QRSS 3 SP2RS crosband QSO CW SP2OVY crosband QSO CW and MF crosband qso 500kHz/3,5MHz, Mal G3KEV, CW I coped signal F8BOJ (M) and OE5ODL (audio 539) Im very happy, signal SP2KDS copy graber RA9CUA. :-) Dimitri and Markus, Im very sory from collision, no copied signal RA3YO. -- Vy 73! Marcin SQ2BXI (SP2KDS Team) Dear Marcin, you might want to move down very slightly to avoid the collision on 137.778: RA3YO 778.0 / 778.2 DFCW SP2KDS ~778.0 QRSS UA4WPF "W" 777.1 / 777.2 DFCW Good luck to all, Markus, DF6NM http://freenet-homepage.de/df6nm/Grabber.htm From: Andrey rn3agc Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 11:20 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: sp2kds Hello Marcin, LF, Strong signal SP2KDS. 73 Andrey > Dear LF > Station SP2KDS will be today started from 21:00 on 137.700 (qrss3) and later > 137.778 kHz (qrss60). > In time 20:00-21:00 search stations on 500kHz band. > -- > Vy 73! > Marcin SQ2BXI > (SP2KDS Team) > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com (rly-md01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.139]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD014-8e84b06a99c2b8; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:37:30 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD018-8e84b06a99c2b8; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:37:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBUau-0006Xm-K9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:36:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBUau-0006Xd-4A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:36:16 +0000 Received: from out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.239]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBUas-0001bM-OJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:36:16 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ah4FAOI3BktZ8e1g/2dsb2JhbACCJSyLO4IMxFGEPASBbw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,777,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="107323136" Received: from unknown (HELO your91hoehfy9g) ([89.241.237.96]) by out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 20 Nov 2009 14:36:08 +0000 Message-ID: <005c01ca69ee$cd475ee0$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:36:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Conditions to Eastt Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0059_01CA69EE.CD0BB570" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0059_01CA69EE.CD0BB570 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Laurence Are u monitoring LF and what QRG De Mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 2:09 PM Subject: LF: Conditions to Eastt DCF39 on 138.,83 and a bit up to S7 at 1400Z which is a good omen as= its still light on some of the path... Good luck Laurence BY3 A KL 1 X off to bed ------=_NextPart_000_0059_01CA69EE.CD0BB570 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Laurence
Are u monitoring LF and what QRG
De Mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 20, 20= 09 2:09=20 PM
Subject: LF: Conditions to Ea= stt

DCF39 on 138.,83 and a bit up to S7 at 140= 0Z which is=20 a good omen as its still light on some of the path...
 
Good luck
 
Laurence BY3 A KL 1 X off to=20 bed
------=_NextPart_000_0059_01CA69EE.CD0BB570-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD031-b884b090908317; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:49:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD072-b884b090908317; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:48:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NC92j-0000qa-RI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:47:41 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NC92j-0000qR-8J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:47:41 +0000 Received: from smtp22.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NC92h-00033z-ND for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:47:41 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2214.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B1686700008C for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:47:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (155.39.196-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.196.39.155]) by msfrf2214.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id BD21F7000089 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:47:41 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091122094741774.BD21F7000089@msfrf2214.sfr.fr Message-ID: <000901ca6b58$d09c9fe0$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:47:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091121-1, 21/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: f8boj hb9asb qso Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01CA6B61.31FA56D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01CA6B61.31FA56D0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0006_01CA6B61.31FCC7D0" ------=_NextPart_001_0006_01CA6B61.31FCC7D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HI Toni and LF Good morning Toni very signal in my qth... Many thanks for the qso and good sunday Claude f8boj ------=_NextPart_001_0006_01CA6B61.31FCC7D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
HI Toni and LF
Good morning Toni very signal in my= =20 qth...
Many thanks for the qso and good=20 sunday
Claude f8boj
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<000501ca67ba$e4817db0$6c01a8c0@DELL4> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 91.180.10.39 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Jay, right now (22:15 UTC) I see a very weak signal on 506.515 kHz What power / ERP are you running ? 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting "jrusgrove@comcast.net" : > T/A enthusiasts > > WE2XGR/2 will beacon in QRSS3 mode tonight on 506.5 kHz from ~ 2130 to ~ > 0030 Z. Reports appreciated. > > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (rly-dc03.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.32]) by air-dc02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC022-b0f4affef12347; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 07:07:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC033-b0f4affef12347; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 07:07:47 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9dsV-0006Zi-MP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:06:47 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9dsV-0006ZZ-4a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:06:47 +0000 Received: from mailout10.t-online.de ([194.25.134.21]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9dsT-0007RG-GZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:06:47 +0000 Received: from fwd02.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.t-online.de with smtp id 1N9dsS-0001pf-05; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:06:44 +0100 Received: from e7010 (XRndYoZDohYokakeG83EZw0ReUIMRLA1-CQLYPyCnSfyoRKc-dC3LDShE9SZ9AjwuW@[84.147.204.247]) by fwd02.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1N9dsO-1kxlYW0; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:06:40 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01ca65ec$16f199e0$6402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:06:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: XRndYoZDohYokakeG83EZw0ReUIMRLA1-CQLYPyCnSfyoRKc-dC3LDShE9SZ9AjwuW X-TOI-MSGID: bf5c854a-def0-4380-a0be-aba947372c6a X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: DI2AG WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA65F4.7635BFA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA65F4.7635BFA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear MF, DI2AG is already on air in WSPR. QRG 505.090KHz, PWR 0.4W ERP.= Duty cycle 33%. The beacon will be busy until tomorrow morning. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA65F4.7635BFA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear MF,
      = DI2AG is=20 already on air in WSPR. QRG 505.090KHz, PWR 0.4W ERP. Duty cycle 33%.= The beacon=20 will be busy until tomorrow morning.
73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA65F4.7635BFA0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db05.mx.aol.com (rly-db05.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.80]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB033-ac94af7259c329; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:10:23 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB057-ac94af7259c329; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:10:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7E4O-0000Ql-6c for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:09:04 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7E4N-0000Qc-Lk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:09:03 +0000 Received: from out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.240]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7E4L-0006NA-IJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:09:03 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqkEAGa09kpcHccI/2dsb2JhbACEOtR5hD4E X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,704,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="73923207" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([92.29.199.8]) by out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 08 Nov 2009 20:08:55 +0000 Message-ID: <029701ca60af$4f444d20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <027601ca60a2$841cd150$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <020b01ca60a9$4495adc0$0201a8c0@Clemens04> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:08:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Two points Why waste 2.4 kHz when QRS only needs a few Hz with a better S/N ratio. You agree that a faint trace is visible. If this faint trace was QRS mode only a few Hz bandwidth would be necessary to read the intellegence and the signal/noise would be superior. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clemens Paul" To: Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 7:23 PM Subject: LF: Re: WSPR > Mal, > >>WSPR reports amongst stns indicate reception reports usually minus dB. >>Most of these >> stations are usually PLUS >>dB with me or very close to that figure. > > WSPR refers the indicated SNR to a BW of 2,4kHz. > So if your receiving BW is say 100Hz your actual SNR is better by ~14dB > than WSPR > reports. > >>A trace of the signal is visible long before a decode takes place, >>therefore why >>not use QRS in > >the first place. > > This may be an issue of your RX/soundcard setup. > I can assure you that with my Perseus SDR RX,set to a RBW of less than one > Hertz > for the display,I can decode every WSPR signal which shows even only a > faint trace on > the waterfall diagram. > At least this is my experience so far. > > 73 > Clemens > DL4RAJ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: mal hamilton > To: rsgb > Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 7:37 PM > Subject: LF: WSPR > > > WSPR reports amongst stns indicate reception reports usually minus dB. > Most of these stations > are usually PLUS dB with me or very close to that figure. > So what does that prove. I would say it depends on the RX antenna and not > necessarily > propagation. A large antenna yields better results than a small loop or > active whip. > When I switch from my 1/4 wave inv L for 500 khz to a smaller 40 m > resonated loop for 500 the > signals then do go down to a minus db figure. > So what is all this all ABOUT ? > There is also the TX pwr to consider. Two transmitters from the same > location one using QRO > and the other QRP will be received at different levels at a specified RX > location. There is a > lot of misrepresentation and misleading information by WSPR operator > A trace of the signal is visible long before a decode takes place, > therefore why not use QRS > in the first place. > > G3KEV > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.55/2489 - Release Date: 11/08/09 > 07:37:00 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.55/2489 - Release Date: 11/08/09 07:37:00 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb10.mx.aol.com (rly-mb10.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.168]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB023-d324af1d8e6341; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:41:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB106-d324af1d8e6341; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:41:28 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N5liQ-0007OW-NB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:40:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N5liP-0007ON-Pl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:40:21 +0000 Received: from [85.37.17.112] (helo=smtp-out112.alice.it) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N5lh7-0004xj-Lq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:39:02 +0000 Received: from fbcmmo06.fbc.local ([192.168.184.137]) by smtp-out112.alice.it with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 4 Nov 2009 20:39:54 +0100 Received: from FBCMCL01B01.fbc.local ([192.168.69.82]) by fbcmmo06.fbc.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 4 Nov 2009 20:39:49 +0100 Received: from IK1ODO.spin-it.com ([87.24.41.185]) by FBCMCL01B01.fbc.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 4 Nov 2009 20:39:50 +0100 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:39:33 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, ukmicrowaves@yahoogroups.com From: Marco IK1ODO In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Nov 2009 19:39:50.0499 (UTC) FILETIME=[92E56B30:01CA5D86] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: "Poisson, Shannon, and the Radio Amateur" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 At 19.49 04/11/2009, Andy Talbot wrote: >Thanks to all who responded, I do now have an E-copy. > > As Warren mentioned there are probably still copyright issues > (after 50 years ??) so it can't really be placed openly on a web site... > >Andy Ok, fine. I will appreciate a copy, just for my archives. I presume that IRE become IEEE, and they are VERY tight on copyrights. 73 - Marco IK!ODO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA052-8cc4b0081363e1; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:31:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA096-8cc4b0081363e1; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:31:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9nbx-0002pL-1q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:30:21 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9nbw-0002pC-1d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:30:20 +0000 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9nbt-00021X-OF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:30:19 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.1]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091115223007.GINB17277.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:30:07 +0000 Received: from [81.109.247.175] (helo=jimdesk) by know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9nbf-0001pN-UH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:30:07 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: References: <7C53F0821F4E4DAE965F1AFE9590A5AE@AGB> <269027.53851.qm@web28105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:29:58 -0000 Message-ID: <004201ca6643$2cf00590$0517aac0@jimdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <269027.53851.qm@web28105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Thread-Index: AcpmPwstC9TfVZojR5OIINATflaabwAA1s9w X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Qz28QKMV998A:10 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=VJGWS8Fr2nppAKGVaj0A:9 a=aqTLHaFCx_Y2TTNwvSoA:7 a=otbdvwKuaMRSKWeXBp6QhwJF5jMA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=QFc5Aota_INpNNSd:21 a=TTqTASvIiVODi6nc:21 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=ac1e44IZV6RScGn9zPsA:9 a=JGVybvEu2PWZVemNxXoA:7 a=m2aIvUlCoZXx8i6JAdBKXtjwF1UA:4 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: RE: LF: G7NKS - Double Side Band: wspr? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0043_01CA6643.2D45C6B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01CA6643.2D45C6B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear LF The double or treble reports on strong signals are due to a main hum problem on my system. It only seems to appear on 500 and only on signals where I am strong e,g, MOBMU and MOFMT. I'm working on some solutions and will also be getting a USB sound card to try and further isolate the sound from the mains. Apologies to all for the multiple decodes. I have tried turning the power down on the TX to get the extra decodes at M0BMU and MOFMT below -30dB so they are not picked up but to no avail. Pete's too close and Jim M's antenna is too good! USB sound card has been advised by several others so that's my next port of call With best regards Jim Dr. James Cowburn _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of M0FMT Sent: 15 November 2009 21:59 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: G7NKS - Double Side Band: wspr? Hi Jim and LF group Please observe the reports I am getting from Jim G7NKS WSPR transmissions :- First a weak one and then a strong one then a weak one (see below) does it mean there's a sprog / modulation on Jim's transmission off set by approximately +/-50c/s? I will try to get a time domain display of it when I have time, it may provide a clue. Is it my RX? 2009-11-15 21:26 G7NKS 0.503904 -26 -1 IO92ub 0.02 M0FMT IO91ux 9 180 2009-11-15 21:26 G7NKS 0.503853 +2 -1 IO92ub 0.02 M0FMT IO91ux 9 180 2009-11-15 21:26 G7NKS 0.503803 -25 -1 IO92ub 0.02 M0FMT IO91ux 9 180 Don't think it's my old HB drifty DC RX that accounts for it because all other reports are OK as far as I have seen to date but am open to comment. 73 petefmt ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01CA6643.2D45C6B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear LF

 

The double or= treble reports on strong signals are due to a main hum problem on my system.  It only seem= s to appear on 500 and only on signals where I am strong e,g, MOBMU and MOFMT.  = I’m working on some solutions and will also be getting a USB sound card to= try and further isolate the sound from the mains.

 

Apologies to al= l for the multiple decodes.  I have tried turning the power down on the TX to get the extra= decodes at M0BMU and MOFMT below -30dB so they are not picked up but to no avail.=  Pete’s too close and Jim M’s antenna is too good!

 

USB sound card= has been advised by several others so that’s my next port of call

 

 

 

With best regar= ds

 

 

Jim=

 

 

Dr. James Cowbu= rn

 

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org [mailto:owner-= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of M0FMT
Sent: 15 November 2009= 21:59
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: G7NKS= - Double Side Band: wspr?

 

Hi Jim and LF group

 

Please observe the reports I am getting= from Jim G7NKS WSPR transmissions :-

 

First a weak one and then a strong one= then a weak one (see below) does it mean there's a sprog / modulation on Ji= m's transmission off set by approximately +/-50c/s? I will try to get a= time domain display of it when I have time, it may provide a clue. Is it= my RX?

 

2009-11-15 21:26 

&= nbsp;G7NKS 

 0.503904 

 -26 

 -1 

&= nbsp;IO92ub 

 0.02 <= /font>

&= nbsp;M0FMT 

&= nbsp;IO91ux 

 9 

 180 

2009-11-15 21:26 

&= nbsp;G7NKS 

 0.503853 

 +2 

 -1 

&= nbsp;IO92ub 

 0.02 <= /font>

&= nbsp;M0FMT 

&= nbsp;IO91ux 

 9 

 180 

2009-11-15 21:26 

&= nbsp;G7NKS 

   0.503803 

-25 <= /p>

 -1 

&= nbsp;IO92ub 

   0.02 <= /span>

&= nbsp;M0FMT 

&= nbsp; IO91ux 

    9 

 180 

 

 

 

 

 

Don't think it's my old HB dri= fty DC RX that accounts for it because all other reports are OK as far as I ha= ve seen to date but am open to comment.

 

  73 petefmt

 

------=_NextPart_000_0043_01CA6643.2D45C6B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB061-ae14afdd52f2c8; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:52:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB087-ae14afdd52f2c8; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:52:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N943m-0005e4-GC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:52:02 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N943m-0005du-3I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:52:02 +0000 Received: from smtp21.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.1]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N943k-0008Hq-EM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:52:02 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2121.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 07D457000093 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:51:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (17.214.194-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.194.214.17]) by msfrf2121.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id B9E47700008B for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:51:52 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091113215152761.B9E47700008B@msfrf2121.sfr.fr Message-ID: <001401ca64ab$82b81dd0$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:51:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091113-1, 13/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: F8boj QRT...big wind in JNWA Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01CA64B3.E40C85F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01CA64B3.E40C85F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good Evening to ALL=20 I AM in qrT Beacause the wx in Bad Big wind 80km/ H sorry Marcin opered SP2KDS and dk8ND MM in JN16WA good night Claude F8boj JN16WA ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01CA64B3.E40C85F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0011_01CA64B3.E40C85F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da08.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDA083-a924b12b8521da; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:07:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA102-a924b12b8521da; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:07:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEo9s-0002cG-AB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:06:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEo9r-0002c7-Rr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:06:03 +0000 Received: from lnx503.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de ([130.83.156.232]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEo9r-0003cZ-4a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:06:03 +0000 Received: from FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.212.129]) by lnx503.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.14.2/8.14.2/HRZ/PMX) with SMTP id nATI62Jr009933 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:06:02 +0100 (envelope-from schaefer@hst.tu-darmstadt.de) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de) by FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de with AVK MailGateway; for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:06:01 +0100 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:05:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AA6D@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> In-Reply-To: <2746F3E144D3480AB85CD466920B1313@lindavideo> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: 4kv diode Thread-Index: Acpw5HPyAhDsQWKaShyAGicVIiXkZAAOJ08A From: =?windows-1258?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= To: X-AVK-Virus-Check: AVB 19.595;29.11.2009 X-PMX-TU: seen v0.99a by 5.5.8.383112, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2009.11.29.175120 X-PMX-SPAMCHECK: outgoing mail X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: AW: 4kv diode Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CA711E.9B3D688F" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA711E.9B3D688F Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1258" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ken,=20 My hint is to try a BV8 Diode. It is able to take 500mA. On my work, I hav= e good experiences with the BV16, the 16kV Version.=20 Each one costs abt 1=80. Three in parallel, thermal coupled, should be no= problem at all. And: there=B4s no need for extra cooling! =20 73, Stefan=20 =20 -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org] Im Auftrag von Ken Gesendet: Sonntag, 29. November 2009 12:05 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: 4kv diode=20 =20 Hello All. I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or equivalent diode, BY4 4kv @ 1A, BY6 6k= v @ 1A, I have searched the web and looked in Farnell, any ideas please. =20 73. Ken =20 M0KHW =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA711E.9B3D688F Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1258" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Ken,=

My hint= is to try a BV8 Diode. It is able to take 500mA. On my work, I have good experiences with= the BV16, the 16kV Version.

Each one= costs abt 1=80. Three in parallel, thermal coupled, should be no problem at all. And: ther= e=B4s no need for extra cooling!

 

73, Stef= an

 

-----Urspr=FCngl= iche Nachricht-----
Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org] Im Auftrag von Ken Gesendet: Sonntag, 29. Nove= mber 2009 12:05
An: rsgb_lf_group@blackshee= p.org
Betreff: LF: 4kv diode

 

Hello All.<= /font>

I am looking for= a BY4 or BY6 or equivalent diode, BY4   4kv @ 1A, BY6  6kv @ 1A, I have sea= rched the web and looked in Farnell, any ideas please.

 

73.<= /p>

Ken<= /p>

 

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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db10.mx.aol.com (rly-db10.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.85]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB091-aed4b02d376283; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:47:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB103-aed4b02d376283; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:46:47 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NARBM-0003zh-4c for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:45:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NARBL-0003zY-HL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:45:31 +0000 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net ([165.212.64.31]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NARBK-0000xy-FI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:45:31 +0000 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net 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Z-USANET-MsgId: XID464NkqqtV3872X36 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126,MIME_HTML_ONLY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: G7NKS - Double Side Band: wspr? Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,HTML_TITLE_EMPTY,MIME_HTML_ONLY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) M0FMT wrote:
Veeeery interesting Alberto
 
Would that give me 192 Kc/s of tunable band width on my SDR radio given the right software?
There has been a lot of debate on the softrock reflector but this one seems to quite good. Do you have first hand experience of it? Christmas is coming ...hee hee.
 
73 petefmt

Pete,

  yes, I have one and I am quite satisfied with it. It can sample at 192 kHz, so it will give you from -96 to +96 kHz of band
around the center frequency tuned with the Softrock. Assuming of course that the low pass filters of the Softrock let such
a large portion of the spectrum pass unaffected... usually they cut at a value rather lower than that.... you will probably
have to change some capacitors.

The fact that it does not need an external power supply is handy too...

A suggestion : if you will use Winrad for it, set it to use the ASIO drivers to interface the card. You will then fully benefit
of the 24-bit amplitude resolution.

73  Alberto  i2PHD

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (rly-dc03.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.32]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDC081-b0e4b0c5e9b390; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:31:09 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC032-b0e4b0c5e9b390; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:30:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ND3tN-0007yU-VW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:29:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ND3tN-0007yL-DL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:29:49 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.128]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ND3tL-0004Um-Qz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:29:49 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3408.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D37041C0008F for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:29:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3408.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C62581C00098 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:29:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.43.164]) by mwinf3408.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 497111C0008F for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:29:39 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091124222939300.497111C0008F@mwinf3408.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <52A6DF956B1944F4BBF07AA8C96F9BC3@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <774E21EDD9DB4D8292615A728F4050AF@AGB> <97EE052373644555BA2C6F114C693250@2a2d7ed321c6425> In-Reply-To: <97EE052373644555BA2C6F114C693250@2a2d7ed321c6425> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:29:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: AW: STANAG .. What software is this showing ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00BE_01CA6D55.9B9C25F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00BE_01CA6D55.9B9C25F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks .Jose / Gerhard=20 73 - G ..=20 From: Beckmann, Gerhard=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:11 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Cc: 'Graham'=20 Subject: LF: AW: STANAG .. What software is this showing ?? Hello Graham, =20 Partly our good old PSK Sounder programm can decode STANAG messages (i= dentifier.) For further steps there is only commercial software available as far= as I know. http://www.klingenfuss.org/perseus.htm (for example -hi--) =20 Vy 73 de Gerhard // DK6NI =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D =20 =20 =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. November 2009 22:42 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: STANAG .. What software is this showing ?? =20 STANAG .. What software is this showing ?? =20 tnx - G ..=20 =20 =20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DxUeTE21RUMM =20 ------=_NextPart_000_00BE_01CA6D55.9B9C25F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks  .Jose / Gerhard <= /DIV>
 
73 - G ..

Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:11 PM
Subject: LF: AW: STANAG .. What software is this showing= =20 ??

Hello=20 Graham,

 

Partly our=20 good old PSK Sounder programm can decode STANAG messages=20 (identifier=85)

For further=20 steps there is only commercial software available as far as I=20 know.

http://www.kl= ingenfuss.org/perseus.htm

(for example=20 =96hi--)

 

Vy 73 de=20 Gerhard  //  DK6NI

 

=3D=3D=3D=3D

 

 

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Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham
Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. November 2009=20 22:42
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<= /A>
Betreff: LF:= STANAG .. What software is=20 this showing ??

 

STANAG .. What software is=20 this  showing ??

 

tnx - G ..=20

 

 

 



------=_NextPart_000_00BE_01CA6D55.9B9C25F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA104-8cf4b0976a92; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:36:49 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA101-8cf4b0976a92; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:36:43 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCGLe-00047a-0o for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:35:42 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCGLd-00047R-19 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:35:41 +0000 Received: from smtp825.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.13.122]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCGLb-00058c-CG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:35:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 51245 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2009 17:35:33 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=f9gmFNg7u/jHBPFcuJ8B2YJ7ea6S6GiR2E0181TBG/eEhwwirCF9v6Huis9QU4Zog4XZ51klnI0KcnIHJ2FUTeu+kTkZEXHJW2O54lGzt0aEzSZoxFRB+k/gQB7LdBb67Bxfk70A/Psp5gS1RgR7s3SHO+tn8Kzfv+WYbW/HHaw= ; Received: from unknown (HELO DennisPC) (dennis.easterling@86.134.97.243 with login) by smtp825.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Nov 2009 17:35:33 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: H_MJu2qswBDkdHeCAZfwexko6VNOiMP5URzYEvz3WrE5v1grQm6fnvJecjM9 X-YMail-OSG: yIw37.YVM1mO73w3Zd0CwUAuRZ_ViNjiy8Yj5XUjKk6oVI0aCIU23GK0HD8OV2tat4T8EebmgKxWfzHtVwvoT8efLgE2xDKCGe8u1HXtjjTm9bZ5mvLhgCidkaZr1J1FFCP5dgLpsiPEkAG60VjtUO.1ymkBbgRZ1MgX8CWPdx1TP3p7ubdse7Tjk5.xHlSrDGo.0kicNOCgpdTNj7yke3ZcD6.o.GLujUIvcwxlXIhVXbYChKnM4kPWkFkXKfNrCEzk_0UVsu3DdRkj2LmPjyoxyyTs9JwA16DVX5sQdQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <74629227B2D54C7793D197AAC8FB39F0@DennisPC> From: "DENNIS EASTERLING" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:35:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: LF: Re: [500 khz] M0JXM & G3XIZ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01C3_01CA6B9A.2EE3B110" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_01C3_01CA6B9A.2EE3B110 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Dave Thanks for the report, I will let Chris work out the details and let= me know. Chris definately has a better antenna and works more power= . 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dave G3WCB=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 12:10 PM Subject: LF: [500 khz] M0JXM & G3XIZ Hi, Dennis and Chris. I checked your relative signal strengths during your QSO on 500 kHz= this morning, using the Wandel & Golterman SPM-30. M0JXM was averagin= g -74 dBm, and G3XIZ was averaging -62 dBm, i.e. 12 dB stronger. If yo= u know how much RF power you were each using, you can deduce your rela= tive antenna efficiencies. Hope this is useful. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_gro= up@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: 21 November 2009 11:38 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500 khz] M0JXM... Hi, Dennis. Your signals are RST 579 here this morning. I can also hear G3DXZ= at 349/QSB, but he's sending too fast for reliable copy at this end.= =20 My antenna is a 20m long double wire "tee" at 5m, and the RX is a= W&G SPM-30 with a tuned J310 pre-amp. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Winds= or, s.e. England -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_g= roup@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of DENNIS EASTERLING Sent: 18 November 2009 17:16 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Lost QSO Hello Mal Sorry if I left you in the lurch 16.5 today, after giving you= a report 599 something happened and a single frequency signal came up= on top of you and slowly drifted down frequency, perhaps someone tuni= ng? Better luck next time. 73 Dennis M0JXM ------=_NextPart_000_01C3_01CA6B9A.2EE3B110 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Dave
 
Thanks for the report,  I will= let Chris work=20 out the details and let me know.   Chris definately has a be= tter=20 antenna and works more power.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Dave G3WCB
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 20= 09 12:10=20 PM
Subject: LF: [500 khz] M0JXM= &=20 G3XIZ

Hi,=20 Dennis and Chris.
 
I=20 checked your relative signal strengths during your QSO on 500 kHz th= is=20 morning, using the Wandel & Golterman SPM-30. M0JXM was averagin= g -74 dBm,=20 and G3XIZ was averaging -62 dBm, i.e. 12 dB stronger. If you know ho= w much RF=20 power you were each using, you can deduce your relative antenna=20 efficiencies.
 
Hope=20 this is useful.
 
73,=20 Dave G3WCB IO91RM
-----Original Message-----
From:= =20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dav= e=20 G3WCB
Sent: 21 November 2009 11:38
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500 khz]=20 M0JXM...

Hi, Dennis.
 
Your signals are RST 579 here this morning. I ca= n=20 also hear G3DXZ at 349/QSB, but he's sending too fast for reliable= copy at=20 this end.=20
 
My antenna is a 20m lo= ng=20 double wire "tee" at 5m, and the RX is a W&G SPM-30 with a tun= ed J310=20 pre-amp. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Wind= sor, s.e.=20 England
-----Original Message-----
From:= =20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of D= ENNIS=20 EASTERLING
Sent: 18 November 2009 17:16
To:= =20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Lost=20 QSO

Hello Mal
 
Sorry if I left you in the lurc= h  16.5=20 today, after giving you a report 599 something happened and a si= ngle=20 frequency signal came up on top of you and slowly drifted= down=20 frequency, perhaps someone tuning?
 
Better luck next time.
 
73 Dennis=20 M0JXM
------=_NextPart_000_01C3_01CA6B9A.2EE3B110-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de06.mx.aol.com (rly-de06.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.142]) by air-de08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE082-4e04aef19a411a; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:41:08 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE063-4e04aef19a411a; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:40:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N50sm-0000PU-LO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:39:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N50sm-0000PL-8X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:39:56 +0000 Received: from smtp827.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.189.241]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N50rJ-0000kc-37 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:38:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 71752 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2009 17:39:49 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=ASukd7LeHApGQFzweCQqg/z0SPEkk17MAwysgjO+oTmIO3lPBJosJCnOo08/S6MdLMVwOgPz6GrVFSF8x21PZ+LOkupT+zcouzreDSPx29yAYTZuKrFRLGaVDq3+80SiFCd+Q7rAMUQyZVMLhxP4FQI3icOC04/yJ0PKYTa54cU= ; Received: from unknown (HELO IBM7FFA209F07C) (c.ashby435@86.169.134.123 with login) by smtp827.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Nov 2009 17:39:49 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: 9STUSnaswBBSd6nO_2gAC20jmYlWRjmg8d5iYd8s.rl181aR6Sw- X-YMail-OSG: 4.wq17cVM1lN9_twD7vb0d.9YIAQJZUcIf7Vpam9QMyQbRhqrJ4bAq2Uxu7NP3jJXUduEdI3hVEJsOujwlVZuqjzMezo6jeWiIpMhifyGjycuQ2EzU5l5i0lBOPSqrqApUAZ7WyYGiOkAiNMa6DVpOr50CVkNTlMrVUQJM7DP8a3Qffee6nhbKsv6uEKX4LyHSSQA8M9TxXe6jQDZ.56ryNLJYdAB6HuDkklkV89lA3_9Al6nwFtBExwNgQC_jXAN4S0FGchljvOC2zixbnhawrQMc1H9Riit3kseA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <29E1BDFB13FC4538803E79FCA2553116@IBM7FFA209F07C> From: "Chris" To: References: <4AEF15CA.24356.160823@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:39:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: Re: LF: 'LF Today' Errors Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Mike! I'm still at your old QTH, trust all is well with you. Will make you a list of some errors I have spotted and foward it to you in due course. Even some of the page numbers in the 'Contents' list are incorrect. Whoever proof read your otherwise excellent books should be fired! Thanks,73, Chris, G4AYT. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Dennison" To: Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 5:24 PM Subject: Re: LF: 'LF Today' Errors > Chris, group, > > If you have spotted any errors or have any corrections / updates / > suggestions, please send them to me. I am not sure when / if the RSGB > will want a new edition, but it's likely that I will be involved one > way or another > > Mike, G3XDV > ========== > >> Does anybody know if someone is co-ordinating, compiling a list, or >> whatever, of the numerous errors in the RSGB publications 'LF Today'? >> I see errors in the book first published in 2004 have been carried >> forward (plus some extra ones!) in to the second edition first >> published 2007. It's not so much the obvious errors, but the ones that >> aren't quite so obvious that cause problems. I can't believe these >> books were ever proof read. Chris, G4AYT. > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb06.mx.aol.com (rly-mb06.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.164]) by air-mb04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB042-d144b046642dd; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:25:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB068-d144b046642dd; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:25:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAs0Z-0004ye-Lk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:24:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAs0Z-0004yV-7X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:24:11 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAs0Y-0002fN-7q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:24:11 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so1744528bwz.4 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:24:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=oOEQ3G5foyyA1eG2wKfT0LU/91rOeofXXKeUynMUaF4=; b=tr/BZRZF/Ux4WnYauhqAbMCzOyXTRpAPuiRCA2ncTknZJZKmFfZDLVdWNJzwJrT1MN EbpqJrRPggNNVVAFHdmr64gus98vSezjK9o7pGDpoEQC7t8UojX/MevxFCcqkdoRFsFU MLa376IQjFdcTEPkZtKFQwWxK/1//gWSP0ShU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pE5swHLkGlGSvrvMr4vF8lxR+OZXVTwTo2YOb7h6jckfIgcovNJGg+4lh8ZzRzG23e MgNk8knnbD/l5uRsgETmiI0SQJFabkAjxx5X31z7WbTIEyfGmEFgoZqcc/pcfkiS4h8g n3+GaNDr/U3kMIFvLb03uf4ZW9hiwNk4aEG20= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.139.204 with SMTP id u12mr333999hbu.81.1258579444370; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:24:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20091118085815.7282031E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <477782.43526.qm@web28104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <20091118102656.11BAD31E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <20091118145534.2BE5D31E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <002201ca6865$1c55a180$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:24:04 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: Re: 500kHz in Belgium Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m285.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) You need to copy and paste the URL - the closing curly bracket is necessary but doesn't get carried across on just clicking on the link. Very satisfying - nothing about listening to a carrier being pulsed on and= off Andy www.g4jnt.com This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health and safety police 2009/11/18 Rik Strobbe : > http://www.itu.int/ITU-R/asp/terminology-definition.asp?lang=3Den&rlink= =3D{AA1D0B6B-97AB-403D-B2C0-136FF09F8422} > > ________________________________ > Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org] > namens mal hamilton [g3kevmal@talktalk.net] > Verzonden: woensdag 18 november 2009 16:38 > Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Onderwerp: LF: Re: 500kHz in Belgium > > Rik > What ITU document contains the definition that digital modes are telegra= phy. > The official handbook issued by HM STATIONARY OFFICE for radio officers > states that telegraphy is on/off keyed morse code ie CW and MCW > and telephony a voice transmission. Other permitted modes fall into a > different category. > G3KEV > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rik Strobbe > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 2:55 PM > Subject: LF: 500kHz in Belgium > All, > > over the past weeks I received several questions wether ECC Recommendati= on > T/R 61-01 includes 501-504kHz in Belgium. > > I asked BIPT (our Ofcom, FCC, ...) and received this answer (in Dutch)= : > > Een buitenlandse titularis van een HAREC vergunning mag onder dezelfde > voorwaarden als de Belgische radioamateurs alle toegelaten klassen van > uitzending en alle frequenties gebruiken. > Dan mag hij ook de frequentieband 501-504 kHz gebruiken. > > English translation: > A foreign holder of a HAREC licence may operate under the same condition= s as > Belgian radio amateurs, using all approved modes and frequencies. > This includes the frequency range 501-504kHz. > > So it is legal to operate as ON/PAxxx/P, ON/Fxxxx/P, ON/Gxxxx/P etc. > Restrictions (that of course also apply to our foreign guests): > - 501-504kHz > - NIB > - max. 5W EIRP (not ERP !) > - max. 100Hz bandwidth > - only telegraphy (as per ITU definition, thus includes digital text mod= es) > > 73, Rik=A0 ON7YD - OR7T From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB054-ae84b004dd1211; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:52:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB096-ae84b004dd1211; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:52:03 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9kBt-0008TL-67 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:51:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9kBs-0008TC-Nk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:51:12 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9kBr-0002NA-Mr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:51:12 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so5097968bwz.4 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:51:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=z9pkw1Aqvz/HyZDt6nlar0RtIwax6whweoTu224JCv4=; b=ht25g3FtrQ3o0Wnm84lvJtK/baNpS7ZJG4WLecmUDbK0ICamPOKaVsPcmz8+iOIhKw B8QBUc+LccsRC1E/IZVQeiZpRsVozTAvP+DEj74hes77Pl7DtsCTfrtMsZbrHenWJ/q6 9UN9L2pt4yzTmL41EjPFY/J4/tlL3yYIyqWZ8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=CnopfcMHC3cg62O04UPWrL44PN4Ngy0Bf6TJVAStF6Zh91sC/JCZCcNewnhAOguC+H 5Q2drTvi7YIe6JWndazE0Q5HI4amMbStZYrEBjD8haSuyFIPfNJ8LD/ghayOEfsxTQ5H lduWIQgtwzpgDL83auwmWGDBUPQ8wp8/0ksok= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.155.65 with SMTP id r1mr3075415bkw.143.1258311065699; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:51:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <0CADF4DD71FD43A2A8384463754F6344@AGB> References: <1043CB7D895D4161B1C87CDD140332A2@AGB> <0CADF4DD71FD43A2A8384463754F6344@AGB> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:51:05 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911151051x6f687a00ka5b1f24be7925217@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: Re: LF: Running mW wspr Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151747afcc16880f04786d60d0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m243.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --00151747afcc16880f04786d60d0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Welcome to the *real* fun of ultra-QRP WSPRing Graham!. It really does show how effective a mode WSPR is. Good luck Roger G3XBM 2009/11/15 Graham > 2009-11-15 18:30 G0NBD 0.503898 -27 0 IO83lk 0.2 GM4SLV > IP90gg 766 7 2009-11-15 18:32 G0NBD 0.503898 -28 0 > IO83lk 0.2 GM4SLV IP90gg 766 7 > > Crazy system ..... spot just in from John ! > > tnx G .. > > > > *From:* Graham > *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2009 6:24 PM > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* LF: Running mW wspr > > Running wspr at 100 % duty , not sure of the power to the Ae as the > needle on the power meter is not moving , the first 3 small divisions on > the bird43 are 10 watts , the needle is still inside the -0- no rx as I > have a set of spurs right over the wspr band at the moment > > spots from G4WGT 33k G3RIk 65k M0BMU 270 ! > > G .. > > > > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --00151747afcc16880f04786d60d0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Welcome to the real fun of ultra-QRP WSPRing Graham!. It really doe= s show how effective a mode WSPR is.=A0

Good luck
Roger G3XBM


2009/11/15 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk<= /a>>
=A02009-11-15 18:30=A0 =A0G0NBD=A0 =A00.503898=A0 =A0-27=A0 =A00=A0 =A0IO83lk=A0 =A00.2=A0 =A0GM4SLV=A0 =A0IP90gg=A0 =A0766=A0 =A07=A0
=A02009-11-15 18:32=A0 =A0G0NBD=A0 =A00.503898=A0 =A0-28=A0 =A00=A0 =A0IO83lk=A0 =A00.2=A0 =A0GM4SLV=A0 =A0IP90gg=A0 =A0766=A0 =A07=A0
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Crazy system .....=A0 spot=A0 just in= from=20 John=A0 !
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tnx=A0 G .. =A0
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Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 6:24 PM
Subject: LF: Running mW wspr

Running=A0=A0 wspr at 100 % duty , no= t sure=20 of the=A0 power to the=A0 Ae as the=A0 needle on the=A0 power meter=20 is=A0 not =A0moving , the=A0 first 3 small=A0divisions on the=A0=20 bird43 are 10 watts=A0 , the needle is=A0 still inside the=A0 -0-=A0=20 no rx as I have a set of=A0 spurs=A0 right over the=A0 wspr band=A0=20 at the=A0 moment
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spots=A0 from G4WGT 33k=A0 G3RIk=A0= 65k=20 M0BMU 270=A0 !
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--00151747afcc16880f04786d60d0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com (rly-md01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.139]) by air-md07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD072-8e74b06ff92180; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:44:18 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD017-8e74b06ff92180; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:44:03 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBaJo-0001Nl-Q1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:43:00 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBaJo-0001Nc-9e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:43:00 +0000 Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBaJn-0004d4-H0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:43:00 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.4]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091120204254.SQLF27507.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:42:54 +0000 Received: from [81.109.247.175] (helo=desktop) by know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBaJh-0003eX-D2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:42:54 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: References: <20091120141648.8WGQY.1557635.root@mp17> <007f01ca6a1b$34a0b8d0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:42:50 -0000 Message-ID: <009a01ca6a22$07a90470$0517aac0@desktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <007f01ca6a1b$34a0b8d0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcpqG2S5+xyRey7mR6qBjWiCGAN4wQABdnbg X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=nN7BH9HXAAAA:8 a=k339kGAnMhvy_VcYNhMA:9 a=hTg6t9m-Q7iKxWre1m0A:7 a=PbcNNp3a2wdYmbfqCZs7sOMhXNgA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=muIvw5a9-cgA:10 a=OagzxVuYODngwXtU:21 a=MkMuQcpFQ_psjLH7:21 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: WSPR a QSO mode not just beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear All, According to the ARRL, WSPR contacts, if verified as two way, will qualify towards DXCC awards as they consider these to be a QSO mode and not simply a beacon. As there is an exchange of callsign, locator and signal strength then that was deemed sufficient by the ARRL to qualify for DXCC and as a QSO in a data mode much like RTTY or PSK31 for example. This was discussed at the recent RSGB conference in a session on WSPR. With best regards Jim -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton Sent: 20 November 2009 19:54 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: WD2XES WSPR 136.0 Recently there has been an upsurge in wspr BEACON appliance operators and your suggested frequency area is not the place for them. The bottom end would keep Beacon acty out of the way. There would still be room for the odd EU qrs operator, can't say I have heard many in recent years. The freq area 137 - 138 k/cs is frequently occupied by Russian and other EU dxers for inter Country working using CW and QRS and 136.5 - 137 for local CW working. NA stns wishing to work EU would still use 137 - 138 on CW and QRS and not be clobbered by wspr carriers going ON/OFF. I hope you see the logic G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:16 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: WD2XES WSPR 136.0 > Thanks for the suggestion, but I doubt it will cause you any more interference than it has for the last 5 years. From our perspective, the lower end of the band has long been reserved for EU to NA operation. > > John, W1TAG > > ---- mal hamilton wrote: > > om I woud suggest you Beacon at the extreme bottom end of the band and not > > in the middle of the CW and QRS DX portion. > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA062-8c34aff0c6a1b3; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:01:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA085-8c34aff0c6a1b3; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:00:45 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9Omh-0000X4-P2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:59:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9Omh-0000Wv-9f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:59:47 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9Omf-0007c2-TN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:59:47 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so4606829bwz.4 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:59:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=0KYz7mszipftVyb+eCJ8n0TC9l6WCusra+sR52wO3B0=; b=PXvy04/kNYLO0fLIAmSA9ruP/y95le+ycq1QuHWaMAKIgzLtTJG7kn5VatCrx7+izU RyovXigp6Z/zQuvVMbOsf05baqX3RAUqzux4/ICdUi/2M2hPj32swBc2E42P+sHqEkFh e4l74mF565uNNsNH6cK7drtTKVwgcWg5G2jfI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=qy8obWSqZlD6tkf84xBBcGGBJpSeNezaQRaN02mh+uVm/ZWiMTBwMqNWi5txy0n7uI Uot8QREsipDmR2o3OBKH4YcS/tt5R4ryUFt4eJNP8ta/PcGfCItEJVAp9iVuxuR4mRno ePeX3eyZVywTGNja12jNYkcS/qwq/iAty4lGA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.24.130 with SMTP id v2mr4151241bkb.33.1258228779123; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:59:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:59:39 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911141159m31c9a9a8h54bab97f02e9deb4@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500kHz WSPR - not tonight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00032555999e6d047d04785a372d X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m239.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --00032555999e6d047d04785a372d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Unfortunately my antenna seems to have been upset by the wet weather and I cannot get it to match on 500kHz. So, although I planned to TX some WSPR tonight I will only be able to listen. Hopefully later in the week when I hope to come on CW too. 73s Roger G3XBM -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --00032555999e6d047d04785a372d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Unfortunately my antenna seems to have been upset by the wet weather and= I cannot get it to match on 500kHz. So, although I planned to TX some WSP= R tonight I will only be able to listen. Hopefully later in the week when= I hope to come on CW too.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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--00032555999e6d047d04785a372d-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg12.mx.aol.com (rly-dg12.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.96]) by air-dg04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG043-60f4b057ccf74; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:13:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG126-60f4b057ccf74; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:13:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBAZ1-0001IY-6D for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:12:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBAZ0-0001IP-QZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:12:58 +0000 Received: from mail-yx0-f203.google.com ([209.85.210.203]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBAZ0-0000oX-12 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:12:58 +0000 Received: by yxe41 with SMTP id 41so5241845yxe.30 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:12:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=mC9ndMieMOeZ3ERN+JUf8NbZScgwqC3EOI9wqZLRNWg=; b=RWmmE4xRwUizdy7eYHVrXXO4CIkQQigNZ1q0ZMYPCuuwLcAqMpkZvDcwn8cnn8KIWU pwHqg2IdYMkKV0ykO5B45e5V0T59HQdV/7KyhsXAbQJEzh28oWxMKt+eD4uUuYLMS/HN lBZ+VTPztJQB8z/2UXP30deSFjoxvFLdsNS7A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gTUcdwcqsFD2r5ERoSslOZcyua1aRsxhevr4YRuS658q3hAIINzyjMBRvWRpV5w82r /EWSmPEACMxdfxZW0yOD/SuzP4U88SI07Q+5PTU1tintH+7GOS6Nex4jk1gMZTvRXNKq HlemwdsCmJyw/n+4sKkqUBIHBgk2WmWlDgQt8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.7.17 with SMTP id 17mr592128ybg.47.1258650767965; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:12:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:12:47 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70911190912k39eab8eah5fcf7a29b005c44b@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m213.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Lubos, Thank you for the great capture! Yes very good band conditions! --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2009/11/19 Lubos OK2BVG : > Hello Warren, Jean-Pierre, LF! > The XGJ signal was very nice last night (but I had opened a window and= my RX > drifted abt 0.1Hz,=A0 HI!) > > 73! > > Lubos, OK2BVG > > ________________________________ > Windows 7: Kter=FD po=E8=EDta=E8 je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD? Dal=B9=ED inf= ormace. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME062-9a94b02d44b3e; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:50:30 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME035-9a94b02d44b3e; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:50:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NARFC-00042p-2M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:49:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NARFB-00042g-Ii for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:49:29 +0000 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net ([165.212.64.31]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NARFA-0000zV-Sl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:49:29 +0000 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net (cmsout01-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout01.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CE282AC58F for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:49:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps02.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.138] by cmsout01.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.58V) with ESMTP id XID054NkqqxX5632X01; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:49:23 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.138 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps02.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID054NkqqxX5632X01 Received: from [192.168.1.3] [151.47.214.229] by cmsapps02.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.53P) with ESMTPA id 273NkqqxV9472M38; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:49:21 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.214.229 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.1.3] Message-ID: <4B02D40E.20804@usa.net> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:49:18 +0100 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <626551.33117.qm@web63607.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <002e01ca66fa$9edc5f20$0900a8c0@lark> In-Reply-To: <002e01ca66fa$9edc5f20$0900a8c0@lark> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Z-USANET-MsgId: XID273Nkqqxw9472X38 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: LEONIDS and propagation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Alan Melia wrote: > In Europe, the Graves satellite radar on 140.050 is a good way to > watch pings with something like Argo or Spectrum Lab. Alan, are you sure about that frequency ? I read on another group that the Graves radar operates on 143.050 MHz I have no direct experience about that. I am just reporting what I read. 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md09.mx.aol.com (rly-md09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.147]) by air-md07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD073-9244af8328338e; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:17:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD094-9244af8328338e; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:17:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7VyX-00046w-7i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:16:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7VyW-00046n-Nh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:16:12 +0000 Received: from mx.omskcity.com ([79.133.160.2]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7Vxd-0008OI-Gc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:15:18 +0000 Received: from noname.nodomain.nowhere (host209.161-133-79.sotline.ru [79.133.161.209]) by mx.omskcity.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nA9FG3Xl034238 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:16:05 +0600 (OMST) (envelope-from fitec@omskcity.com) Received: from localhost (fitec@localhost) by noname.nodomain.nowhere (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA00267 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:18:14 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: noname.nodomain.nowhere: fitec owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:18:14 +0000 (GMT) From: "Alexander S. Yurkov" To: rsgb In-Reply-To: <026601ca609f$82671260$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.8 (mx.omskcity.com [79.133.160.2]); Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:16:07 +0600 (OMST) X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DATE_IN_FUTURE_06_12=1.498 Subject: Re: LF: TREES Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_FUTURE_06_12 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) It is simple:-) Trees effect to a loop is much lower then such an effect to an E-antenna. This is why loop is better then E-antenna in bad enviroment (trees). While E-antenna is better then loop of the same dimensions if trees are absent. On Sun, 8 Nov 2009, mal hamilton wrote: > Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:15:49 -0000 > From: mal hamilton > Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > To: rsgb > Subject: LF: TREES > > According to some USA stn they thread and hang their loops through tree branches. This info has appeared in the past on this reflector. > Are UK trees different from those in the USA ? > Apart from me no one else in the UK seemed to think this was a problem !! > G3KEV > Regards, Alexander From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc04.mx.aol.com (rly-mc04.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.88]) by air-mc05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC051-d6f4b0802ebd5; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:10:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC047-d6f4b0802ebd5; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:10:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBrak-0006Fx-QQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:09:38 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBrak-0006Fo-3S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:09:38 +0000 Received: from mailout1.go2.pl ([193.17.41.11]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBrai-0001Jp-Ef for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:09:38 +0000 Received: from mailout1.go2.pl (unknown [10.0.0.103]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE38D5D514F for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:09:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from unknown (unknown [10.0.0.42]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:09:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from 58-178-124-188.rev.pro-internet.pl [188.124.178.58] by poczta.o2.pl with ESMTP id nMnfMj; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:09:32 +0100 Message-ID: <002401ca6abc$a0211900$3ab27cbc@niurhaxf0xcqlj> From: "Marcin" To: References: <4B07ABA4.4060102@online.fr> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:09:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-O2-Trust: 2, 69 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: LF T/A [137 kHz] good conditions ! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Jean-Pierre, LF Test transmit signal KDS it is SP2KDS. -- Vy 73! Marcin SQ2BXI Hello LF, Good conditions last night on 137 Khz ! Yesterday evening : =93Y=94 (RA3YO) dfcw60 =93KDS=94 (????) qrss120 =93XKO=94 (WD2XKO) qrss 30 This Morning : XKO (WD2XKO) qrss60 Dex, pse look on my grabber , your sig are vy strong ! Thank you to be returned on 137 Khz ! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb01.mx.aol.com (rly-mb01.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.154]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB022-cea4af7537d45; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:25:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB016-cea4af7537d45; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:25:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7H7z-0001xI-El for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:24:59 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7H7y-0001x9-Og for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:24:58 +0000 Received: from web28104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.124]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7H7y-0007Bm-2d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:24:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 8358 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Nov 2009 23:24:52 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1257722692; bh=Dquk9QDuS0nK3KYU5l/rjcOpCPJ4wkw1BGzzonsvP/A=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VVQS5G2E3H0mAE+MY3lIf1EIHopaWhGD3rplGlwxW1eI3LQ8FXxMURnmcCXRgsdylKgKaun4fJxCwXFbf8BcarkaITE5Ix6cRzc2aU7f6C1t6cLP+MIzmzKHUkK60uQAS+lvIvd5B7pPzEnwJZqFQr2yqbBzu6dt47K98+VdNOQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=1JQN7pBJzw4uukuS+uo+JjAwpm6yDrrLZ2FDOr8dgUjrzz7V7kb1L/au/VbLfvlBLruuB0ssMY5/JgHXjye2LEGzV9hJcvE+tJZ2XvRhO/obrKdww0s4lsB6HR6AqwrP9zRkhHc6+7qkH2B4GIsXbPq65HKoJzUg1tusFoB/N68=; Message-ID: <830145.7281.qm@web28104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: y9Ue6jwVM1ndQTQ8LX4VXD4VKXe4s5.KzRiK_tiTUmRY6DtfuQJCPo2Qi0pHlDy.RVxitrXr5bVKwYR.rtxekLV18ro.1O47R2BsTZ4_fGZFcQcUf1_SzAh1lpkELSah0e2slJ33oWek7olUTJjYI3IF2.rhwL9zKqBBVm44Ew9oNnaISAjmoPhbdF5lz.RghZhpQ1OnzS4LGN6cFEEEBCSkPErwa6_wy3uSGleHvniuoTMOsl_KMk_.P0ozSc.KmEOIDc9KSCBfqQ_07ST562v6bVfq0FE_paPviYupGVaiVFvWCX.bzP0dvaas5h5HYdHtJgHnt_ofFJ8- Received: from [86.166.78.110] by web28104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:24:52 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:24:52 -0800 (PST) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <9afca2640911081518j40fe9c13s7e37f3f02987cc1c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2010811570-1257722692=:7281" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,LINES_OF_YELLING,LINES_OF_YELLING_2 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d224.2 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-2010811570-1257722692=:7281 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I despair! --- On Sun, 8/11/09, Roger Lapthorn wrote: From: Roger Lapthorn Subject: Re: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sunday, 8 November, 2009, 23:18 Congratulations Chris - excellent work. A small comment about WSPR... all of us who WSPR only occupy 200Hz of the= band in total and there is the potential for about=A0 >100 WSPR stations= to share this space at any time by using 10% TX only and assuming 6Hz/sta= tion is needed for any transmission.=A0 This is GOOD use of the spectrum= in my book. 73s (and work you on the key soon!) Roger G3XBM 2009/11/8 M0FMT Congratulations Chris =A0 A nice piece of work. And thank you for making 600metres the kind of band= it should be. =A0 I support your comments. We really need a band the size of the Norwegian= allocation to=A0coexist with=A0these incompatible, to CW,=A0modes.=A0 =A0 Very 73=A0=A0 Petefmt --- On Sun, 8/11/09, Chris Osborn wrote: From: Chris Osborn Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO To: "LF Group" Date: Sunday, 8 November, 2009, 18:03 LF It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m. This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 600m /= 80m. Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0CF -= No. 998. QSO break-down according to mode: =A0=A0=A0 928 CW,=A0 34 RTTY=A0 and=A0= =A0 5 QRSS 600m STATIONS My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many of= these go back to the start of the UK=A0 600m allocation in March 2007. Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding beaco= ns). Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of agai= n:=A0 G3KZU, G3YHV . . . Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT:=A0 G3UNT, G3V= TT, G4GDR. . . MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the same sta= tions many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of my total conta= cts. My most frequently worked stations are: GW3UEP - 120=A0=A0=A0=A0 G3KEV - 102=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 M0FMT - 90=A0=A0=A0=A0= G3ZWH=A0 -=A0 80=A0 (alas now SK) G3DXZ=A0=A0=A0 -=A0=A0 67=A0=A0=A0=A0 G4GDR -=A0=A0 60=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 EI0C= F/ GI4DPE=A0 -=A0 51=A0=A0 M0JXM - 48 G3UNT=A0=A0=A0 -=A0=A0 45=A0=A0=A0=A0 G3VTT=A0 -=A0=A0 38 CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a cross-ba= nd QSO: DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . . and our few EU MF friends are still active: ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . . WSPR ON 600m I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for the WSPR= mode was never achieved for=A0 hand sent Morse (CW), which after all is= the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF marine band. If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stations oper= ating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band then I guess= it may be time for me to QSY. 73 Chris G3XIZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088 =20 --0-2010811570-1257722692=:7281 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I despair!

--- On Sun, 8/11/09,= Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.c= om>
Subject: Re: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO
To: rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org
Date: Sunday, 8 November, 2009, 23:18

Congratulations Chris - excellent work.

A sm= all comment about WSPR... all of us who WSPR only occupy 200Hz of the band= in total and there is the potential for about  >100 WSPR= stations to share this space at any time by using 10% TX only and assumin= g 6Hz/station is needed for any transmission.  This is GOOD use of th= e spectrum in my book.

73s (and work you on the key soon!)
Roger= G3XBM


2009/11/8 M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.u= k>
Congratulations Chris
 
A nice piece of work. And thank you for making 600metres the kind of= band it should be.
 
I support your comments. We really need a band the size of the Norweg= ian allocation to coexist with these incompatible, to CW, m= odes. 
 
Very 73   Petefmt

--- On Sun, 8/11/09, Chris Osbo= rn <g3xiz@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

From: Chris Osborn <g3xiz@yahoo.co.uk><= BR>Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO
To: "LF Group" <= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Date: Sunday,= 8 November, 2009, 18:03


LF

It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO= using 600m.
This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of whi= ch were 600m / 80m.

Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up= G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0CF - No. 998.

QSO break-down according to= mode:     928 CW,  34 RTTY  and   5 QR= SS

600m STATIONS<= BR>
My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many of these go back to the star= t of the UK  600m allocation in March 2007.
Of these I have worked= or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding beacons).
Many stations= on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of again:  G3KZ= U, G3YHV . . .
Others were once very active but have subsequently gone= QRT:  G3UNT, G3VTT, G4GDR. . .

MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED

With so few active operators it is obviou= s that one will work the same stations many times and the top 10 stations= account for 70% of my total contacts.
My most frequently worked statio= ns are:

GW3UEP - 120     G3KEV - 102  = ;    M0FMT - 90     G3ZWH  - = 80  (alas now SK)
G3DXZ    -   67 &= nbsp;   G4GDR -   60      EI0= CF/ GI4DPE  -  51   M0JXM - 48
G3UNT  &nb= sp; -   45     G3VTT  -   38<= BR>
CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIO= NS

There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and= enjoy a cross-band QSO:
DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF .= . .

and our few EU MF friends are still active:
ON4KTJ, OR7T an= d OZ8NJ. . .

WSPR ON 600m
I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for th= e WSPR mode was never achieved for  hand sent Morse (CW), which after= all is the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF marine= band.
If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger sta= tions operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band th= en I guess it may be time for me to QSY.

73 Chris G3XIZ









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Henny pa3cpm
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([81.103.221.48]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N50dx-0000Cx-78 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:24:38 +0000 Received: from aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091102172430.DLTU27507.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:24:30 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.34] (really [82.22.242.219]) by aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20091102172430.MVTO21638.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.2.34]> for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:24:30 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:24:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4AEF15CA.24356.160823@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> In-reply-to: References: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=9YlaCzn6_68A:10 a=OaGbGVO20IcnsWtDJP8A:9 a=ypmu3CjFLNQq21O-c0NNt8dUVyYA:4 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 'LF Today' Errors Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Chris, group, If you have spotted any errors or have any corrections / updates / suggestions, please send them to me. I am not sure when / if the RSGB will want a new edition, but it's likely that I will be involved one way or another Mike, G3XDV ========== > Does anybody know if someone is co-ordinating, compiling a list, or > whatever, of the numerous errors in the RSGB publications 'LF Today'? > I see errors in the book first published in 2004 have been carried > forward (plus some extra ones!) in to the second edition first > published 2007. It's not so much the obvious errors, but the ones that > aren't quite so obvious that cause problems. I can't believe these > books were ever proof read. Chris, G4AYT. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (rly-dc09.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.38]) by air-dc04.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDC043-b3e4b1298d4280; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:53:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC092-b3e4b1298d4280; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:52:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEm3u-0001zh-IE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:51:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEm3u-0001zY-1P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:51:46 +0000 Received: from mbox1.netikka.net ([213.250.81.202]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEm3t-0002pv-B6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:51:46 +0000 Received: from hupu.netikka.net (hupu [172.16.83.91]) by mbox1-feedback.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8608227173B for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:51:39 +0200 (EET) Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by hupu.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D0424B0045 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:51:39 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C434495B8C for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:51:39 +0200 (EET) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:51:39 +0200 Message-ID: <1259509899.4b12988b783b8@imp.netikka.net> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:51:39 +0200 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <2746F3E144D3480AB85CD466920B1313@lindavideo> <003001ca70e7$24aaf3a0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <003c01ca70eb$0aa52120$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <4B126AF9.3050300@ntlworld.com> <005001ca70f9$f63904e0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <1259505915.4b1288fb018a7@imp.netikka.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv diode Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Ok Ken Further I would not worry as much regarding the voltage rating of the equa= lizing resistors. Use physically large units with an adequate power rating (U^2= / R) and they will probably be fine. After all there are more stories out there about blown diodes than equalizing resistor flash-overs. Are you sure you can't squeeze in at least three diodes per leg? This woul= d ease the equalizing resistor voltage requirements a bit too. Just two BY255's= per leg sounds scary for 2.3kV peak. BR Paul-Henrik Quoting Ken : > Hi Paul. > On my last mailing I got the BY255 current wrong. > > Ken > > M0KHW > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul-Henrik" > To: > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 2:45 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv diode > > > BY255 should be a suitable building block rated 1300V PIV 3A. > > Use equalizing resistors in parallell with each diode, typical values us= ed > are > 470...820kohm. Only controlled avalanche diodes can be series connected > safely > without a reverse voltage equalizing network. > > Make sure you implement a healthy safety marigin, ie. don't use just as= many > diodes needed to acheive the needed voltage rating. Using 3 amp diodes= when > 1 > amp is called for is no luxury either. You don't want to hear the sound= of > an > angry rattlesnake from your thunderbox... this sound is often followed= by > popping and oozing electrolytic capacitors. > > > Good luck and please don't get zapped > > Paul-Henrik > > Quoting mal hamilton : > > > Yes series for more V parallel for more I(amps) and preferable some= R and > > C > > across each except they are really identical. > > mal/g3kev > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: David Towers > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 12:37 PM > > Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv diode > > > > > > Hi Mal > > surely "in series" to give a 4 KV diode at 1amp ? > > dave G8SZX > > > > > > > > mal hamilton wrote: > > Ken > > On the serious side, use 6 x 1Kvolt @ 1A in parallel if u are stuc= k. > > Don't get zapped > > 73 mal/g3kev > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: mal hamilton > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:28 AM > > Subject: LF: Re: 4kv diode > > > > > > Electric Chair Co > > Zapenda Cul de sac > > Hellda State > > Zip73 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Ken > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:04 AM > > Subject: LF: 4kv diode > > > > > > Hello All. > > I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or equivalent diode, BY4 4kv= @ 1A, > > BY6 6kv @ 1A, I have searched the web and looked in Farnell, any idea= s > > please. > > > > 73. > > Ken > > > > M0KHW > > > > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (rly-ma07.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.51]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMA052-8b84b129704313; 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format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Tacey. Thanks for the reply. I only seached ebay up to 5kV. Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tracey Gardner" To: Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 3:30 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv diode > Hello Ken > > How about these on ebay? > 4pcs 1 Amp 10kV High Voltage Rectifier > Item number:250539436700 > > Tracey > > > Hello Everyone. > Thanks for the replies, I have some BY255's which are rated at 1300v at > 1A, the input to the diode stack is about 2.3KV peak, and was planning to > use two BY255s in series in each of the four legs, of the full wave > bridge, the problem is most resistors are only rated at 500v, hence using > a single diode would remove the need for resistors. With resistors rated > at 500v, this would require 16 diodes, and there is not that amount of > space. Next question does anyone know of a source of 470K resistore rated > at 1KV? these are rare and expensive animals > > 73 > Ken > M0KHW > ----- > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (rly-ma06.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.50]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMA011-8b64b12aa69376; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:08:09 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA068-8b64b12aa69376; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:07:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEnEm-0002TC-Ni for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:07:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEnEm-0002T3-81 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:07:04 +0000 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEnEl-0003CC-8J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:07:04 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.4]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091129170657.YPFJ17277.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:06:57 +0000 Received: from [81.109.251.184] (helo=desktop) by know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEnEe-0001DV-LN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:06:57 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:06:50 -0000 Message-ID: <010c01ca7116$59615290$0317aac0@desktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcpxFldjLD2Q+fFOS6S123hv3qMztQ== X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=W3tOLUehizD4qj6VhtReFuw5MKb8d+XqjIxlDsIazEA= c=1 sm=0 a=HtFxxwoJUVfl6_62CAIA:9 a=1ULwxbI08bK9-8WQXE4nlIssTroA:4 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=vGY9l9b-on8Z9djl1NYA:9 a=XAygSiyNVKAdaDdxafUA:7 a=vS-KI0m3_xNTdZYhGmzcSkS9dq8A:4 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RTTY test transmission on 501.5 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_010D_01CA7116.59639C80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_010D_01CA7116.59639C80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear LF I am running a test RTTY transmission on 501.5 (I hope!!) It transmits for abt 1 min every 10 mins. I'd be grateful for any reports. I will shut it down at 20.00z or before if necessary 73s Jim G7NKS ------=_NextPart_000_010D_01CA7116.59639C80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear LF

 

I am running a test RTTY transmission= on 501.5 (I hope!!)  It transmits for abt 1 min every 10 mins.

 

I’d be grateful for any reports.=  I will shut it down at 20.00z or before if necessary

 

73s

 

Jim G7NKS

------=_NextPart_000_010D_01CA7116.59639C80-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df05.mx.aol.com (rly-df05.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.18]) by air-df04.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDF042-5514b119a1768; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:46:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF056-5514b119a1768; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:46:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEV6K-0005bh-4B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:45:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEV6J-0005bY-OA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:45:07 +0000 Received: from web63608.mail.re1.yahoo.com ([69.147.97.78]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEV6I-0001e5-N9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:45:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 44423 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Nov 2009 21:44:59 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1259444699; bh=FXE/Xsg5xs2hzaaOyyDGXZwRsk0A1dbZHlORJtj2uk4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=B9m9PE37oR9qJ7q3i61NpF7fMsuLCNgZd1Xy2KmoI+1D7OrjBVDWzr4YJJDsDF9XhCVQ0XkaCn2ZN8dNWs3vtVnv2wMaLARRXHOqGrLW3gF7z7O/Fbuoj13EkVVhUMCKROF9b1ClhxRYz3AacZiEdQrxEJU+pDDytsiOlD1DYg0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=rANcPaK1BOETprJbRLWs6A/yzq39ox2KzHXpMEK0h49nmCSo9f3JJP+KmZotapLVE7BmLC8zlBIjDFp0b4b4XpA2RlfIMgpk/C5QFmkVX7krKR6acIzGcUaon4IJmaN/evaZCvIQTfLCLcPMesUU51ESHRUOF0amq3lFbYpTk5A=; Message-ID: <699498.44139.qm@web63608.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: sJsgLocVM1lzvrqlvVYDPanRVJ7Okz77VYtC.blX4YNNA2t.HqhMGVbDYTd0.Ej8faA.dEqSAY4eTG1vrsxoEUV8wJQHVZJUgfJtNUunUrRIC6i0q.Qbb5gRo.kG7q3_bfwK6MqmB6ClgER38lzS9YUKN_ecoabVF9ggA.l97HN2ZqXxm1KwicWuM7c4pb0iGt98S21JzieAr4McVsbZ4G3UIhK0W7twItgqCkr5thX2rr9NzIhyHIUu92h6PFgizNhhSCC10D6GiySQSxcQ6LTmTf7vu.AROMwrvPufIvosXcQh9s7clh4aulTc.cCJPbrGSe_doIXfv0V85TxkXZRsBDBR.1GOjZzuGE71VpKKfGBDb6LI4tmqTHGIaZ.DTn_DAImON2mtw7V7LQ-- Received: from [97.89.42.135] by web63608.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:44:59 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:44:59 -0800 (PST) From: Andy - KU4XR To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <4B11359E.8090001@freenet.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: How do I use Spectrum Lab as a VLF Soft Receiver ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m288.2 ; domain : yahoo.com DKIM : pass Thank you Wolf: It was right there in front of me. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. It works now. 73 to you " Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN. LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 185.29866 KHz ( QRSS-60 ) Coordinates: N: 35* 43' 54" - W: 84* 3' 16" http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr http://webpages.charter.net/ku4xr/ --- On Sat, 11/28/09, Wolfgang B=FCscher wrote: > From: Wolfgang B=FCscher > Subject: Re: LF: How do I use Spectrum Lab as a VLF Soft Receiver ? > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Saturday, November 28, 2009, 9:37 AM > Hello Andy, >=20 > Of course Spectum Lab does work as a software designed > radio with audio output. > If you use a stereo soundcard (for I/Q input), start here > (in the main menu): > Quick Settings .. Image cancelling receivers .. > SDR on stereo soundcard, 48 k sampling, downconverter, > adjustable filter. >=20 > The "SID" setting is really not intended as an audible > reciver, but as a strip chart plotter for fieldstrenghs. >=20 > Cheers, > Wolf . >=20 >=20 >=20 =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (rly-ma06.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.50]) by air-ma07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA074-8af4af758caf4; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:48:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA061-8af4af758caf4; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:48:28 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7HTm-00024W-EQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:47:30 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7HTl-00024N-MX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:47:29 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7HTj-0007Hs-3o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:47:29 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3514.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C11257000085 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:47:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3514.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B4CBE7000087 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:47:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.45.11]) by mwinf3514.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 3C70C7000085 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:47:21 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091108234721247.3C70C7000085@mwinf3514.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <027601ca60a2$841cd150$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:47:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0155_01CA60CD.CFB6B420" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0155_01CA60CD.CFB6B420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just a note, The power on 500 is being reported as ERP due to the problems with= antenna efficiency ... as for low power I have seen Rick ON7T decod= e signals from my station with round 250 mW feed to the Ae ...=20 G ..=20 http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/wspr-activity-from-the-uk From: PETER CLEALL=20 Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 10:36 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR In addition to what James has said. Use of the WSPR site more fully can eliminate a lot of the uncertainti= es being discussed If more stations use the WSPR website/database for reporting then more= consistency is obtained, or at least the possibility of allowing some= calculation and estimates on what is reported.=20 When reporting then you are asked to keep your tx power low and to ent= er your TX power in the set up window ,so that we all know what it is.= Also on the site there is a section where you can describe your stati= on parameters. peter G8AFN 2009/11/8 James Moritz Dear Mal, LF Group, ----- Original Message ----- From: "mal hamilton" =20 WSPR reports amongst stns indicate reception reports usually minus= dB. Most of these stations are usually PLUS dB >with me or very close= to that figure. So what does that prove. It proves the SNR is higher at the output of your receiver than it= is at whatever other stations you are talking about=20 I would say it depends on the RX antenna and not necessarily propa= gation. So how then does the signal reach the RX antenna? Radio wave propaga= tion has always to be involved somewhere!=20 A large antenna yields better results than a small loop or active= whip. Not if the small loop or whip are designed to achieve adequate SNR= at the frequency of interest.=20 When I switch from my 1/4 wave inv L for 500 khz to a smaller 40= m resonated loop for 500 the signals then do go >down to a minus db= figure. So what is all this all ABOUT ? It is probably about the different directional patterns of the verti= cal and loop antennas, resulting in different signal and noise levels= at the receiver, and therefore different values of SNR. Or maybe your= loop just doesn't work very well.=20 There is also the TX pwr to consider. Two transmitters from the sa= me location one using QRO and the other QRP will be >received at diffe= rent levels at a specified RX location. There is a lot of misrepresent= ation and misleading information by >WSPR operator This applies also to CW or any other type of signal. It is a bit ric= h for someone so shy of giving figures for his TX power to suggest oth= ers are being misleading...=20 A trace of the signal is visible long before a decode takes place,= therefore why not use QRS in the first place. Because a trace of signal is just that; a decoded WSPR signal contai= ns station ID, location, and power information, making it much more us= eful, without the operator actually having to watch a computer screen= 24 hours a day. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0155_01CA60CD.CFB6B420 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Just a note,
 
The power on 500  is being repor= ted as=20 ERP  due to the  problems with  antenna efficiency ...= as for low=20 power I have  seen Rick ON7T decode signals  from my&nb= sp;=20 station with round 250 mW feed  to the  Ae ...
 
G ..
 

Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 10:36 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR

In addition to what James has said.

Use of the WSPR site more fully can eliminate a lot of the uncert= ainties=20 being discussed


If more stations use the WSPR website/database for reporting then= more=20 consistency is obtained, or at least the possibility of allowing some= =20 calculation and estimates on what is reported. 

When reporting then you are asked to keep your tx power low and= to enter=20 your TX power in the set up window ,so that we all know what it is. Al= so on the=20 site there is a section where you can describe your station=20 parameters.


peter G8AFN



2009/11/8 James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenwor= ld.com>
Dear Mal, LF Group,<= BR>
----- Original Message -----=20 From: "mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>=20



WSPR reports= amongst stns indicate reception reports=20 usually minus dB. Most of these stations are usually PLUS dB >w= ith me or=20 very close to that figure.
So what does that=20 prove.

It proves the SNR is higher at the= output of=20 your receiver than it is at whatever other stations you are talking= about=20



I would say it= depends on the RX antenna and not=20 necessarily propagation.

So how then doe= s the signal=20 reach the RX antenna? Radio wave propagation has always to be involv= ed=20 somewhere!=20



A large antenn= a yields better results than a small loop or=20 active whip.

Not if the small loop or wh= ip are=20 designed to achieve adequate SNR at the frequency of interest.=20



When I switch= from my 1/4 wave inv L for 500 khz to a=20 smaller 40 m resonated loop for 500 the signals then do go >dow= n to a=20 minus db figure.
So what is all this all ABOUT=20 ?

It is probably about the different direc= tional=20 patterns of the vertical and loop antennas, resulting in different= signal and=20 noise levels at the receiver, and therefore different values of SNR.= Or maybe=20 your loop just doesn't work very well.=20



There is also= the TX pwr to consider. Two transmitters=20 from the same location one using QRO and the other QRP will be >= ;received=20 at different levels at a specified RX location. There is a lot of= =20 misrepresentation and misleading information by >WSPR=20 operator

This applies also to CW or any ot= her type=20 of signal. It is a bit rich for someone so shy of giving figures for= his TX=20 power to suggest others are being misleading...=20



A trace of the= signal is visible long before a decode=20 takes place, therefore why not use QRS in the first=20 place.

Because a trace of signal is just= that; a=20 decoded WSPR signal contains station ID, location, and power informa= tion,=20 making it much more useful, without the operator actually having to= watch a=20 computer screen 24 hours a day.


Cheers, Jim Moritz
73= de M0BMU=20




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Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:50:37 +0000 Received: from mta11.charter.net ([216.33.127.80]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8ufj-00042P-4i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:50:37 +0000 Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.10]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.02.04 201-2219-117-106-20090629) with ESMTP id <20091113115018.IVEP8038.mta11.charter.net@imp10> for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:50:18 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([66.189.74.84]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id 4bqJ1d0061p78xe05bqJEw; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:50:18 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ERTN1BiK-IYA:10 a=KEcb-uBA5CuvSa7dVAYA:9 a=t17MQt_G_fFOs_qMfR2lmFU06UwA:4 Message-ID: <4AFD47FA.3030201@charter.net> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:50:18 -0500 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20091112162547.07WZ7.8495963.root@mp12> <1923941843.20091113095555@mterrier.net> In-Reply-To: <1923941843.20091113095555@mterrier.net> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WD2XES WOLF 137.441 Thurs Nite Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Michel, Excellent results! Thanks very much for the complete report. John, W1TAG/WD2XES Michel F5WK wrote: > Here is my report. Virtual Audio Cable (VAC) was used for the first time to > link the SpectrumLab based SDR and WOLFGUI. It appeared to run quite > accurately. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v125.8) with ESMTP id MAILINMG034-9f44af06577d9; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:17:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG016-9f44af06577d9; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:16:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N5MvG-00085f-Fy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:11:58 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N5MvC-00085W-76 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:11:54 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N5Mv7-0002jw-QI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:11:52 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3504.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B8F777000081 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:11:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3504.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id ACAC77000084 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:11:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.42.7]) by mwinf3504.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 092AA7000081 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:11:38 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091103171139376.092AA7000081@mwinf3504.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <542B26F06A4A4FAD892C91E3E33FA670@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <993BF7557D4B4C5F8251F19CEB166E93@IBM7FFA209F07C> In-Reply-To: <993BF7557D4B4C5F8251F19CEB166E93@IBM7FFA209F07C> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 17:11:37 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Hell Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0034_01CA5CA8.B408B0D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01CA5CA8.B408B0D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Chris=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 9:26 AM To: RSGB LF Group=20 Subject: LF: Hell Hi All, Does anybody know if the Hell software is still available and, if so,= where from, please? Thank you and 73, Chris, G4AYT. ----------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.45/2476 - Release Date: 11/0= 2/09 07:51:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01CA5CA8.B408B0D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 

From: Chris
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 9:26 AM
Subject: LF: Hell

Hi All,
Does anybody know if the Hell softwar= e is still=20 available and, if so, where from, please?
Thank you and 73,
Chris, G4AYT.


No virus found in this incoming message.
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Version: 8.5.4= 23 / Virus Database:=20 270.14.45/2476 - Release Date: 11/02/09 07:51:00


------=_NextPart_000_0034_01CA5CA8.B408B0D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db07.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDB071-ad34b1434d5ab; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:10:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB071-ad34b1434d5ab; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:10:47 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NFDVF-0000Fe-IF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:09:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NFDVF-0000FU-1C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:09:49 +0000 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NFDVE-0003cW-B8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:09:49 +0000 Received: from aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091130210937.FNVO17277.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:09:37 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.33] (really [82.22.242.219]) by aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20091130210937.LEII13254.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.2.33]> for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:09:37 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:09:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4B14348E.11442.296173D@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> In-reply-to: <4B1426ED.8000707@inext.at> References: <4B140806.10012.1E82610@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com>, <4B1426ED.8000707@inext.at> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=1ggfb5FlKZQUfF3vzm9UBYZ2uTfLsbs/8dSljwg5+mE= c=1 sm=0 a=9YlaCzn6_68A:10 a=u8CAkHEcEc7Bw_Rb0gsA:9 a=fE6fMgPWl43rs3jbYqYx8h2crJwA:4 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: DX test 136.318kHz Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Thank you for the report. Your QRSS3 signal has been 'O' here for the last two afternoons around 1700UTC. Mike ==== > hallo mike ! > your transmission xdv 10-15 db o.n. qsb > 73 oe5odl jn68rd > > Mike Dennison schrieb: > > I will be transmitting "XDV" overnight (1800 - 0900 UTC) tonight > > using QRSS60 on 136.3180kHz. DX reports are welcome. > > > > Mike. G3XDV > > ========== > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDC082-b3a4b0c1617101; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:21:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC086-b3a4b0c1617101; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:21:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCz3b-00060f-NS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:20:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCz3b-00060W-Ba for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:20:03 +0000 Received: from web63607.mail.re1.yahoo.com ([69.147.97.77]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCz3Y-0002hg-MH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:20:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 81658 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Nov 2009 17:19:52 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1259083192; bh=o8KB4z735ycCmHqMtIx5kJiZ4JYR09UrhoPEaWfkQ3o=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=1icKBoUkb7MJ4Ts6/NBrBWVyJE5liQM5igNmSkJe+uNqADFxyUt8fW31nC9V6U4To0W/Z1RJa4Gz677d8q3nOi7xslpDsUkJGdGNxHsRhOwmRhc7HqenOXMr5ClCc/4deTNyRxvM7pbjHyZHHCJROG7hr5zDU5M/oOtuFxK4NZY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=N1qYVGOE3tO6I8IbW1mqqZOANHtfNcS5cTD4lVEsM2EYouJqP+XBaUnDvBtTNiMsoE+fCdG+RE/fah9lgSF/agSe5gCJW1c0c5V4MLsuO00GzFPTkrRtk0oaQ0NdGDcTFitsGHAW+XIJAX6zNwlGfu0FlTLvZPbAIdRUoE3sg2s=; Message-ID: <770377.80919.qm@web63607.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: MzKVwskVM1nql0pdtnIQ49h5PM4mGc2WimhGhfJvpX8u.i41rcq3vqJj2sjO9oGyiaOJ7_IYXbeVM5ZqeXyxBdPizY_4T2G6NPrI3kGcNbn7Ap8Vwc2zYniSthRPEgK2HjJ7sr0.fKWHIyZACuOpiveNwAr5A676nFmd95JEa9VlAg9SA827UeXM5KbWaGUy6JOPWHbederGNIrXdeaQSl3o2AB4U_vBY7RnMH3vWTLxO2_HK6_CE91M0eYQtkUDw3_flCQYTKvnLt.b0tMSzO1x18V3GNDswe65TfwZKJqdecF0NWC1C.fqAp7GA4ydsCxqxMRQds0wNT5nHfpwmFr55cnG_Nr8rXXBMajZkh1nwq2vMjhHfFTCJVfZJCxbKQrw034Q2cDQmcwUF4mj7qMa_C8JSa5HGRn_cz3EcD8RWb1nvO5BXpZsGr4FPtw1Ki4rGgVW4hMNL5TdivvuYlV7Xw-- Received: from [98.70.117.187] by web63607.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:19:52 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:19:52 -0800 (PST) From: Andy - KU4XR To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <000e01ca6d27$45eaac40$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: SITOR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d268.2 ; domain : yahoo.com DKIM : pass Mal: MultiPSK includes the SITOR A mode. http://f6cte.free.fr/index_anglais.htm The link to the software if you don't have it already. 73 ::: Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN. LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 185.29866 KHz ( QRSS-60 ) Coordinates: N: 35* 43' 54" - W: 84* 3' 16" http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr http://webpages.charter.net/ku4xr/ --- On Tue, 11/24/09, mal hamilton wrote: > From: mal hamilton > Subject: LF: SITOR > To: "rsgb" > Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 11:57 AM >=20 >=20 > =20 > =20 >=20 >=20 > =20 > Looking for a good decode > prog. > mal/g3kev > =A0=20 >=20 =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb08.mx.aol.com (rly-mb08.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.166]) by air-mb08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB084-d1f4b0197afe9; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:19:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB083-d1f4b0197afe9; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:19:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA66V-0007Xo-Om for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:15:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA66R-0007XQ-Rw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:15:04 +0000 Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA66N-0001Cx-67 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:15:00 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-3.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.3]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091116180948.XFZA27507.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-3.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:09:48 +0000 Received: from [81.109.247.175] (helo=jimdesk) by know-smtpout-3.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA61L-0007jH-By for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:09:48 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: References: <014601ca66e7$76a9f9d0$0517aac0@jimdesk> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:09:44 -0000 Message-ID: <015b01ca66e7$faca7050$0517aac0@jimdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <014601ca66e7$76a9f9d0$0517aac0@jimdesk> Thread-Index: Acpm5m3SHzpox8kKQe2PU52HmguBJQAAPlwgAAAgdNA= X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jRP15gNl8tMA:10 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=ZR30WM-CqZqrTCPgmsYA:9 a=uOcCYkGmJZB915bHgjEOrDS9uAMA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=46cmhyRfNyF4UF4l:21 a=JH6SV7DBnlkRJTfw:21 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=NP0tSAyLhSNLRJGaPPoA:7 a=KBHohTuoY6q4S_ZIbNXFXGGBJVMA:4 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: RE: thats the way to do it! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_015C_01CA66E7.FACA7050" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_015C_01CA66E7.FACA7050 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Now getting rpts on reflector too! doh _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of James Cowburn Sent: 16 November 2009 18:06 To: 'James Cowburn'; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: thats the way to do it! Dear LF At a stroke, side bands gone, 25watts found, sigs increased! I'd like to say I planned it that way but sister Serendipity was on my side! I just moved the impedance matching transformer from in the shack to the base of the coil and re-adjusted the taps on both. IC735 now happily firing 50watts out as opposed to 25 watts and it seems that the dreaded side bands are gone. Let's see if it stays that way. With best regards Jim G7NKS Dr. James Cowburn ------=_NextPart_000_015C_01CA66E7.FACA7050 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Now  getti= ng rpts on reflector too! doh

 

 

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org [mailto:owner-= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of James Cowburn
Sent: 16 November 2009= 18:06
To: 'James Cowburn'; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: RE: thats= the way to do it!

 

 

Dear LF

 

At a stroke, side bands gone, 25watts= found, sigs increased!  I’d like to say I planned it that way but sister Serendipi= ty was on my side!

 

I just moved the impedance matching tra= nsformer from in the shack to the base of the coil and re-adjusted the taps on both.   IC735 now happily firing 50watts out as opposed to 25 watt= s and it seems that the dreaded side bands are gone.  Let’s see if= it stays that way.

 

 

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim= G7NKS

 

 

Dr. James Cowburn

 

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Hello LF,
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Andy & Group
Vy nice presentation & tnx for making it available for us.
Would like to use parts for talk in local ham club, objections? (sour= ce will be mentioned, of course!).
=A0
PPT works ok, if wav-files are unzipped and placed beside it. Otherwi= se: no sound.
=A0
73
de Klaus
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--001485f039a8d7854304786e4078-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (rly-mg04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.110]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG103-a094b036a093d8; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:29:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG043-a094b036a093d8; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:29:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAbDL-0008G5-Cb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:28:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAbDK-0008Fw-4G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:28:14 +0000 Received: from smtprelay0006.hostedemail.com ([216.40.44.6] helo=smtprelay.hostedemail.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAbDH-0005Ua-Fx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:28:14 +0000 Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (ff-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay03.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 6A8DB15A3962 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:28:08 +0000 (UTC) X-Session-Marker: 76653872744078706C6F726E65742E636F6D X-Filterd-Recvd-Size: 28215 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (xplr-ts-v10-208-114-191-189.barrettxplore.com [208.114.191.189]) (Authenticated sender: ve8rt@xplornet.com) by omf04.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:27:59 +0000 (UTC) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <4B034CEF.2010206@telus.net> References: <961313.39040.qm@web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <4B034CEF.2010206@telus.net> Message-Id: From: Ron VE8RT Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:27:41 -0700 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-7-1034786936 Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Apple-Mail-7-1034786936 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I've been VERY disappointed, having contacted RAC (of which I'm a member) a few months ago to get a list of those interested in permits for 600 metre stations, just to have TOTAL silence on the matter from RAC. I heard about the apparently secretive project through other than Canadian sources and could not find any information on the RAC website. There isn't much point hanging around on the list as my time and interest lie elsewhere than beacon monitoring, I may be back when someone, Canadian or otherwise, decides to release some useful information regarding AMATEUR permits for the 600m band. Ron VE8RT On 17-Nov-09, at 6:25 PM, Scott Tilley wrote: > A fine argument if VX9MRC was licensed in the amateur service. > But amateur regulations do not apply as VX9MRC is licensed in the > developmental service as posting your license publicly would allow > others to see. > > Permissible communication in the developmental service must be > clearly stated in the license terms. > > Polishing up the plank, > Scott > > jcraig@mun.ca wrote: >> >> Blimey... I've been exposed as a PIRATE! Polly, me parrot, >> (Newfoundland >> Puffin) is concerned I might be disciplined a with keel hauling or >> the >> cat-o-nine-tails! Shiver me timbers! >> >> For those who have worked VX9MRC and are losing sleep for fear of >> being asked to walk the plank by their licensing authority, please >> take comfort in >> the following: >> >> The General Radio Regulations defina a radio station as "a place >> wherein radio apparatus is located." VO1NA is duly "licensed" in >> Canada and is the radio station wherein is located the >> radiotelegraphic apparatus of VX9MRC, thanks to the kind efforts >> of the Marconi Radio Club of Newfoundland. >> >> The regulations state "No operator of an amateur station shall >> communicate >> with radio stations other than stations licensed in the amateur >> service" >> >> Therefore, any station that communicates with VX9MRC is >> communicating with a station licensed in the amateur serivce and >> does so accordance with the regulations. >> >> Alas, ye olde PIRATE who can evidently lob 10^30 big (600m) >> photons per >> second across the brine pond is but an amateur in legal matters. >> >> 73 Arrh me Hearties!!! >> Joe VO1NA >> >> On Fri, 13 Nov 2009, Andy Talbot wrote: >> >>> And who do you think would bother if you did work one ? >>> Who would even care ? >>> >>> Andy >>> www.g4jnt.com >>> >>> this email has been scanned for political correctness by the >>> nanny state >>> >>> >>> 2009/11/13 M0FMT >>> >>>> The whole setup looks decidedly dodgy to me. If they are >>>> Pirates how >>>> would it affect my license if the opportunity arose for me to >>>> work one and I >>>> did? The only place I know where I am licensed work a non >>>> Amateur station is >>>> on 5megs and that can only be a UK Mill station. >>>> >>>> It's a question of how much you value your license I suppose. >>>> >>>> 73 petefmt >>>> >>>> >>>> --- On *Fri, 13/11/09, Graham * wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Graham >>>> Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other >>>> amature >>>> stations ?? >>>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>> Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 14:53 >>>> >>>> Scott >>>> >>>> SO.... Matter and antimatter cannot coexist at close range for >>>> more than a >>>> small fraction of a second because they collide with and >>>> annihilate each >>>> other, releasing large quantities of energy in the form of gamma >>>> rays >>>> >>>> Got it now .. gamma rays are electromagnetic ..hence radio >>>> waves are >>>> produced .. which may suffer (constructive interference) or >>>> (destructive >>>> interference) resulting in large variations in amplitude at the >>>> point of >>>> observation ..... >>>> >>>> Thanks ! >>>> >>>> G .. >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> From: "Scott Tilley" >>> uk.mc281.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sthed475@telus.net> >>>>> >>>> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:29 PM >>>> To: >>> mc/compose?to=rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> >>>>> >>>> Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with >>>> other amature >>>> stations ?? >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi John >>>>> >>>>> VX is in developmental service (same idea as US stations), EI >>>>> in amateur >>>> service... Like positive and negative antimatter they don't mix. >>>>> >>>>> 73 Scott >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> John P-G wrote: >>>>>> Scott Tilley wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Graham >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All Canadian 600m stations are operating under COMMERCIAL >>>>>>> Developmental >>>> Licenses and are not able to communicate with the Amateur Service. >>>>>> >>>>>> So VX9MRC shouldn't be having regular CW QSOs with EI0CF? >>>>>> >>>>>> Still confused.... >>>>>> >>>>>> John >>>>>> GM4SLV >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --- >> > Ron VE8RT ve8rt@xplornet.com Yellowknife, NT, Canada 62 28.060N 114 20.648W Grid Square DP22tl "Who are these that fly as a cloud, and as doves to their window?" Is 60:8 --Apple-Mail-7-1034786936 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've been VERY disappointed, having contacted RAC (of which I'm a member)= a few months ago to get a list of those interested in permits for 600 met= re stations, just to have TOTAL silence on the matter from RAC. =A0I heard= about the apparently secretive project through other than Canadian source= s and could not find any information on the RAC website. =A0There isn't mu= ch point hanging around on the list as my time and interest lie elsewhere= than beacon monitoring, =A0I may be back when someone, Canadian or otherw= ise, decides to release some useful information regarding AMATEUR permits= for the 600m band.

=A0=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Ron VE8RT

On 17-Nov-09, at 6:25 PM, Scott Tilley wrote:

=A0
But amateur= regulations do not apply as VX9MRC is licensed in the developmental servi= ce as posting your license publicly would allow others to see.

Permissible commun= ication in the developmental service must be clearly stated in the license= terms.

P= olishing up the plank,
Scott=A0

jcraig@mun.ca wrote:=

Blimey...=A0 I've been exposed as a PIRATE! Polly, me parrot, (Newfoundland
<= div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margi= n-left: 0px; ">Puffin) is concerned I might be disciplined a with keel hau= ling or the
cat-o-nine-tails! Shiver me timbers!

For those who= have worked VX9MRC and are losing sleep for fear of being asked to walk= the plank by their licensing authority, please take comfort in
the following:

The General Radio Regulations defina a radio station as= "a place wherein radio apparatus is located." VO1NA is duly "licensed" in= Canada and is the radio station wherein is located the radiotelegraphic= apparatus of VX9MRC, thanks to the kind efforts of the Marconi Radio Club= of Newfoundland.

The regulations state "No operator of an amateur station shall= communicate
with radio stations other than stations= licensed in the amateur service"
<= br>
Therefore, any station that communicates with VX= 9MRC is communicating with a station licensed in the amateur serivce and= does so accordance with the regulations.

Alas, ye olde PIRATE who can evidently= lob 10^30 big (600m) photons per
second across the= brine pond is but an amateur in legal matters.

73=A0 Arrh me Hearties!!!
Joe VO1NA

On Fri, 13 No= v 2009, Andy Talbot wrote:

And who do you think would= bother if you did work one ?
Who would even care ?

Andy
www.g4jnt.com

=
this email has been scanned for political correctnes= s by the nanny state


2009/11/13 M0FMT= <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>
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=A0 The whole set= up looks decidedly dodgy to me. If they are Pirates how
did? The only place I know where I am licensed= work a non Amateur station is
on 5megs and that can= only be a UK Mill station.

It's a question of how much you value your license I= suppose.



--- On *Fri, 13/11/09,= Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.c= o.uk>* wrote:


From: Graham <<= a href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk><= /div>
Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso= with other amature
stations ??
Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 14:53

Scott
<= div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margi= n-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; ">
SO.... Matter= and antimatter cannot coexist at close range for more than a
small fraction of a second because they collide with and annihila= te each
other, releasing large quantities of energy= in the form of gamma rays

Got it=A0 n= ow .. gamma rays are electromagnetic ..hence radio waves are
produced .. which may suffer= =A0 (constructive interference) or (destructive
observation .....

Thanks=A0 !

G ..

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From: "Scott Tilley" <sthed475@telus.net<http://uk.mc281= .mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dsthed475@telus.net>=A0

Sent: Fr= iday, November 13, 2009 2:29 PM

Subject: Re: LF: Are the<= span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 new VE stations able to=A0 qso=A0 with=A0 other amature
stations ??


Hi John

VX is in developmental service (same= idea as US stations), EI in amateur
se= rvice... Like positive and negative antimatter they don't mix.

73 Scott


John P-G wrote:
=
Scott Tilley wrote:
Hi Graham

All Canadian 600m stations are opera= ting under COMMERCIAL Developmental
Licenses and are not able to communicate with the= Amateur Service.

So VX9MRC sh= ouldn't be having regular CW QSOs with EI0CF?

Still confused....

John
G= M4SLV


<= br>


=





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Ron VE8RT=A0ve8rt@xplornet.com
Yellowknife, NT,= Canada
62 28.060N =A0114 20.648W =A0Grid Square DP22tl
"Who are these that fly as a cloud, and as doves to their window?" =A0Is= 60:8

=3D --Apple-Mail-7-1034786936-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMD034-92c4b0e43591e5; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:59:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD104-92c4b0e43591e5; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:59:07 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDaAM-0002uA-NT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 08:57:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDaAM-0002u1-7H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 08:57:30 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDaAL-0007vg-EM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 08:57:30 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD7BC7B8056 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:57:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from PC_van_Rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-106.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.106]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id A229931E702 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:57:21 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:57:29 +0100 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091126085721.A229931E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_10_20=0.945,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: instability on MosFet amps Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_4350009==.ALT" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --=====================_4350009==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Wolf, LF-group, to my experience most FET's are killed by=20 over-voltage (spikes at the drain). Exceeding=20 current or power seems less an item. The voltage spikes are load dependent and thus=20 can be caused by antenna mismatching. A R-C=20 series network from drain to ground is a good remedy. I have played around with class-E PA's are they=20 are very fascinating. But although very simple to=20 build you need at least a good oscilloscope to tune them correctly. On 500kHz I reached 92% for a 100 W PA. Most of=20 the remaining 8% was dissipated in the coils,=20 rather than in the FET, so improving the coils could even raise the effici= ency. But compared to a class D PA I found the class E=20 PA rather sensitive toward load. For a class D PA the main concern about the load=20 (antenna) is that it is resistive (antenna in=20 resonance) and "more or less" 50 Ohm. My class D=20 PA ( 82% efficiency) seems to be happy with any=20 resistive load in the 40-70 Ohm range. The class=20 E PA on the other hand really needed a 50 Ohm resistive load. Regarding split filters: I tested them years ago=20 on 137kHz and found out that they work well but -=20 at least in my case - they were quite pernicious=20 for the PA efficiency that dropped from about 85% to about 75%. I didn't investigate the reason for that (as the=20 R-C networks at the drain solved the spike=20 problem). A wild guess would be that the harmonic=20 power that is reflected by a LPF (but absorbed in=20 a split filter) somehow is "recuperated" in the PA. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T At 16:25 25/11/2009, you wrote: >Hello group ! >I found that almost all amp configurations=20 >generate harmonics. In case of a homebrewed HF=20 >amp, with a push =96pull design, I had to build=20 >hi-pass filters with a resistive termination, so=20 >called split filters, for each band. Without=20 >dissipating the harmonic energy the stage will=20 >have to cope with excess voltages and thus bury the MosFets . >My last amp stage for the DI2BJ-beacon is=20 >followed by a hi-pass that opens at 750 kcs .=20 >This way the first harmonic and all the higher=20 >ones go into thermal dissipation. >A T-type adjustable low-pass is used to match and reduce harmonics furthe= r. >Have fun de wolf df2py --=====================_4350009==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Wolf, LF-group,

to my experience most FET's are killed by over-voltage (spikes at the drain). Exceeding current or power seems less an item.
The voltage spikes are load dependent and thus can be caused by antenna mismatching. A R-C series network from drain to ground is a good remedy.
I have played around with class-E PA's are they are very fascinating. But although very simple to build you need at least a good oscilloscope to tune them correctly.
On 500kHz I reached 92% for a 100 W PA. Most of the remaining 8% was dissipated in the coils, rather than in the FET, so improving the coils could even raise the efficiency.
But compared to a class D PA I found the class E PA rather sensitive toward load.
For a class D PA the main concern about the load (antenna) is that it is resistive (antenna in resonance) and "more or less" 50 Ohm. My class D PA ( 82% efficiency) seems to be happy with any resistive load in the 40-70 Ohm range. The class E PA on the other hand really needed a 50 Ohm resistive load.

Regarding split filters: I tested them years ago on 137kHz and found out that they work well but - at least in my case - they were quite pernicious for the PA efficiency that dropped from about 85% to about 75%.
I didn't investigate the reason for that (as the R-C networks at the drain solved the spike problem). A wild guess would be that the harmonic power that is reflected by a LPF (but absorbed in a split filter) somehow is "recuperated" in the PA.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T




At 16:25 25/11/2009, you wrote:
Hello group !
I found that almost all amp configurations generate harmonics. In case of a homebrewed HF amp, with a push =96pull design, I had to build hi-pass filters with a resistive termination, so called split filters, for each band. Without dissipating the harmonic energy the stage will have to cope with excess voltages and thus bury the MosFets .
My last amp stage for the DI2BJ-beacon is followed by a hi-pass that opens at 750 kcs . This way the first harmonic and all the higher ones go into thermal dissipation.
A T-type adjustable low-pass is used to match and reduce harmonics further.
Have fun            = ;         de wolf  df2py
--=====================_4350009==.ALT-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD043-b8b4af2af6c283; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:56:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD075-b8b4af2af6c283; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:56:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6008-00010v-05 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:55:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6007-00010m-Ja for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:55:35 +0000 Received: from smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com ([195.200.78.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N5zys-0002aC-RB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:54:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 4785 invoked by uid 507); 5 Nov 2009 11:55:18 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO JR) (john.rabson@numeo.fr@217.67.155.178) by smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com with SMTP; 5 Nov 2009 11:55:18 +0100 Message-ID: <200911051155250437.01D98744@smtp2.numeo.fr> In-Reply-To: <002d01ca5dff$c7ea38a0$0201a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> References: <36F0AC319F8D4DA2B15968DBEB9CDEBD@ns94d01ae4d850> <002d01ca5dff$c7ea38a0$0201a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:55:25 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: LF F8BOJ 30dB over noise on 137705 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 At 1054z. John F5VLF *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 05/11/2009 at 11:07 Claude Berthebaud wrote: >Hello Henny and LF >Many thanks for the pic control ...now I'm in beacon >137705.hz qrss3 for the eventualy SWL good week and >Best 73 's >Claude F8boj JN16WA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: henny van elst > To: blacksheep > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 10:51 AM > Subject: LF: BOJ 04-11.jpg > > > Hi LF, > Capture BOJ, > Henny pa3cpm > best 73s > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden >verzonden: > BOJ 04-11.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen >virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet >toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt >weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (rly-dc10.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.39]) by air-dc09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC093-b494af59b5e2c1; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:08:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC105-b494af59b5e2c1; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:08:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6nod-0000tw-Vk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:07:03 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6nod-0000tn-HU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:07:03 +0000 Received: from fwx.uvtc.net ([195.22.25.2] helo=uvtcmail.se) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6nob-00028a-Pa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:07:03 +0000 thread-index: AcpfxE9IMFz1C5fdS8GtMgsX6Sk0fQ== X-MEFilter-Version: 6.5.0 X-SPAM-FLAG:NO Received: from ([127.0.0.1]) with MailEnable ESMTP; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 16:06:47 +0000 Message-ID: <2F1AB4DFB90B402ABA068A546B4AEDDE@radiorummet> From: "Gus" To: , Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 17:06:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4325 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Importance: normal X-ME-Bayesian: 0.000000 X-CHK: uvtcmail.se X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: 10 mW WSPR beacon. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003D_01CA5FCC.AFE380D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_FONT_BIG, HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01CA5FCC.AFE380D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear LF group,=20 After running beacon WSPR night 6-7 November with only 10 mW ERP (125= mW) TX power on 500 kHz it gives me great surprise, that a very long= range can be achieved with extremely small power!=20 Dave AA1A got a decoding where the distance between us is 5756 km. Also a number of EU stn's reported decodes. On previous occasions, with a power of 1 W ERP is Laurence KL1X/BY3A= reported a number of decoding where the distance between us is 7284= km.=20 I would also like to thank the other reporting from the night's 10 mW= broadcasts, and note that WSPR is a fashion which is particularly sui= table for very low power!=20 73 de Gus SM6BHZ=20 www.sm6bhz.com ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01CA5FCC.AFE380D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear LF group,

After running beacon= WSPR night 6-7 November with only 10 mW ERP (125=20 mW) TX power on 500 kHz it gives me great surprise, that a very long= range can=20 be achieved with extremely small power!

Dave AA1A got a decodi= ng where the distance between us is 5756=20 km.

Also a number of EU st= n=92s reported=20 decodes.


On previous oc= casions, with=20 a power of 1 W ERP is Laurence KL1X/BY3A reported a number of decoding= where the=20 distance between us is 7284 km.

= I wou= ld also like to thank the other reporting from the night's 10 mW=20 broadcasts, and note that WSPR is a fashion which is particularly suit= able for=20 very low power!

73=20 de Gus SM6BHZ

www.sm6bhz.com

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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Andy Ok on the www.weaksignals.com (no space) not working, it goes ok from here using the clickable link I put in ....must be something at your end, but the SDR site gives the same info. Your bandwidth depends upon what sampling rate you can use on your card, and whether there is any filtering on it which will preclude higher sample rates showing the appropriate spectrum. My Delta-44 gives a nice 0-48k spectrum. Enjoy playing....WinRad is quite useful for chasing and identifying local interference as well as listening. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy - KU4XR" To: ; Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 10:02 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: How do I use Spectrum Lab as a VLF Soft Receiver ? Thanks to all for the responses so far. My current interest is to use the sound card as if it were a receiver, and software to make it work like one. I have downloaded " WINRAD " ( Win98SE version ), and will experiment with it this weekend. A note on the web address for the software; the weak signals.com link does not work, but google-ing " WINRAD " found this address that is correct. http://www.sdrham.com/ I am still interested in any and all comments, suggestions, user experiences, and so on. Thank you in advance for any replies. 73 all ::: Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN. LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 185.29866 KHz ( QRSS-60 ) Coordinates: N: 35* 43' 54" - W: 84* 3' 16" http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr http://webpages.charter.net/ku4xr/ --- On Fri, 11/27/09, Alan Melia wrote: > From: Alan Melia > Subject: LF: Re: How do I use Spectrum Lab as a VLF Soft Receiver ? > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Friday, November 27, 2009, 3:42 PM > I am not sure about this you need to > scour the help files but the SID > receiver is not meant for listening to it is to produce a > sig-strength v > time plot. You might need some fairly crafty software > connection for Spec > Lab Wolf will maybe reply he does monitor. > > As an easy alternative try WinRad by Alberto > www.weaksignals.com and just > stick a wire into the mic input and you get a full SDR > receiver. I am not > sure you get sound out even then you may be Virtual Audio > Cable, or perhaps > Alberto has a hook in the code now. The thing is you are > using the card > twice....once to pruduce the receiver and again to produce > the audio output. > I cant check at the moment I am still in the process of > loading up this PC. > > Best Wishes > Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andy - KU4XR" > To: ; > > Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 7:14 PM > Subject: LF: How do I use Spectrum Lab as a VLF Soft > Receiver ? > > > > Hello All: > > > > I have recently been trying to get a soundcard VLF > receiver > > going. I found a SAQ receiver on the web designed by > > Johan - SM6LKM. It works good I suppose never having > tried > > this before. I can hear " Radio noise " in other > words, it > > actually sounds like a receiver. When I connect > enough > > coils in series, with a variable cap to ground to make > a > > pre-selector, The noise floor will rise 20 dB when I > tune > > the Cap. and you can see the peak move across the > spectrum > > display. However, that's as far as you can go, You > can't > > choose a sound card, it automatically chooses the > windows > > default card, and I haven't found a way to use DSP > filtering > > with it, since everything is based on the sound card > alone. > > > > Now for Spectrum Lab, It has a built in " SID " > receiver, > > and the built in DSP filters work in the program. I > just can't > > get it to work !!!!! All I can get is low freq. hum, > or > > digital noise. It makes no difference with or without > an Ant. > > I've changed sound card sample rates, and FFT > settings, > > nothing works for me. > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions for me to try > ?? Thank you. > > > > 73 to all ::: > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (rly-ma05.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.49]) by air-ma09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA093-8ab4afde409385; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:56:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA055-8ab4afde409385; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:56:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9530-0006KE-NK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:55:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9530-0006K5-Bn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:55:18 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N952z-0001dW-Nh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:55:18 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.14] (unknown [192.168.1.14]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A4B13B4D8 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:55:17 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4AFDE3D4.7070807@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:55:16 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <00df01ca6488$e9244a80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <5MsXcPDG6Z$KFw8w@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk> <4AFDC7CD.5000409@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <200911132205430250.0B2CC740@smtp2.numeo.fr> In-Reply-To: <200911132205430250.0B2CC740@smtp2.numeo.fr> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: PIRATES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) John RABSON wrote: > On 13/11/2009 at 20:55 John P-G wrote: > >> ...granted these permissions on an individual basis. Not all of >> them are specifically for manual telegraphy. > > In France, I believe the rules say if you haven't passed a Morse test > you aren't allowed to use manual telegraphy. I'm alright then, I passed my Morse test while I was still at school, at Cullercoats Radio.... J GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db04.mx.aol.com (rly-db04.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.79]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB034-abc4af487fd329; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:33:09 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB042-abc4af487fd329; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:33:03 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6VTP-0006Hf-6h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:31:55 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6VTO-0006HW-Le for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:31:54 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6VTL-000521-Re for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:31:54 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.6] (opc1.twatt.home [192.168.1.6]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE233B5CC for ; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 20:31:51 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4AF487B6.4090504@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:31:50 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <9afca2640911060845r17eb75daracad4f874c3a1c9c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9afca2640911060845r17eb75daracad4f874c3a1c9c@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: G3XBM: 500kHz ERP increased by 6dB - WSPR reports please Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Roger Lapthorn wrote: > *Please listen for me on 500kHz WSPR* and let me know if I am now stronger > than before. Roger, 1st period decoded at -21dB Have you a record (mental or otherwise) of the normal spread of s/n figures that I've recorded for you in the past? I'll leave the RX system running overnight so you can gather some data to compare your new antenna with the previous incarnation. Cheers, John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB061-ab34afdcea019f; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:25:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB031-ab34afdcea019f; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:24:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N93cW-0005Es-Hw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:23:52 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N93cW-0005Ej-3o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:23:52 +0000 Received: from out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.242]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N93cU-00087a-2k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:23:52 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApAFAD9d/UpOlMdA/2dsb2JhbACCIy2BaolYBo56uSCEPAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,739,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="233430709" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.199.64]) by out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 13 Nov 2009 21:23:40 +0000 Message-ID: <016001ca64a7$959b4f20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:23:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: Proper morse Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_015D_01CA64A7.949E7890" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_015D_01CA64A7.949E7890 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Some person from the Shetlands said he never heard PROPER MORSE from= G4DMP. I worked G4DMP using PROPER MORSE on the 500 K/cs band on the 12/05/09= at 2007 utc. Could the said person be a WSPR PIRATE ? G3KEV =20 ------=_NextPart_000_015D_01CA64A7.949E7890 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Some person from the Shetlands said= he never heard=20 PROPER MORSE from G4DMP.
I worked G4DMP using PROPER MORSE on= the 500 K/cs=20 band on the 12/05/09 at 2007 utc.
Could the said person be a WSPR= PIRATE=20 ?
G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_015D_01CA64A7.949E7890-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db01.mx.aol.com (rly-db01.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.76]) by air-db02.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDB021-aa54b0dac6c3bc; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:15:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB013-aa54b0dac6c3bc; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:15:10 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDQ7f-0000JU-0T for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:14:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDQ7e-0000JL-LS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:14:02 +0000 Received: from mbox2.netikka.net ([213.250.81.203]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDQ7e-0004RU-1r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:14:02 +0000 Received: from tupu.netikka.net (tupu [172.16.83.90]) by mbox2-feedback.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13ACF408082 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:13:56 +0200 (EET) Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by tupu.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17CDC4B0058 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:13:56 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 081AF495BD9 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:13:56 +0200 (EET) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:13:56 +0200 Message-ID: <1259187236.4b0dac2404262@imp.netikka.net> Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:13:56 +0200 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <200911252249180564.01447660@smtp2.numeo.fr> In-Reply-To: <200911252249180564.01447660@smtp2.numeo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: TEST OH1?? on about 137680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello John! Judging by ear here it must be Reino, OH1TN BR Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ Quoting John RABSON : > At 2140z. > > John Rabson > F5VLF > 58800 Cervon > France > JN17vg > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da06.mx.aol.com (rly-da06.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.80]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA051-a754afd1300cc; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:04:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA065-a754afd1300cc; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:04:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8r7z-0001Cs-NS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:03:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8r7z-0001Ch-7A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:03:31 +0000 Received: from mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.47]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8r7y-0003yr-Cm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:03:31 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.1]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091113080319.BODF17029.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:03:19 +0000 Received: from [81.109.247.175] (helo=jimdesk) by know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8r7n-0007Bp-Dn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:03:19 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: References: <563642.98089.qm@web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001801ca63ec$609a7f50$0900a8c0@lark> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:03:18 -0000 Message-ID: <00c201ca6437$c29f5040$0617aac0@jimdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: Acpj7ISBpyox9PCIQzOeUh4+hslkUQASy6Jw In-Reply-To: <001801ca63ec$609a7f50$0900a8c0@lark> X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=MXYsVByytIkA:10 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=pSDxxfrZAAAA:8 a=f0RPBRECAAAA:8 a=nOr1sUlreQ7vSgi6H0gA:9 a=iB24hMu0mXiAyPzkSxAA:7 a=3Ot5EkORGxHOXsbARqU9-4fG8BAA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=DXJFcEk134MsbE9z:21 a=4GDiEKwjl7EsL8Tp:21 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Or often a "it depends" With best regards Jim -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia Sent: 12 November 2009 23:02 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Graham its like our Offcomm....read it that it doesnt say they can't! Dont ask or the answer is always NO, the safest response for a Civil Serpent :-)) Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham" To: Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 10:33 PM Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Peter, I'm reading that .. but what am I reading ..is it yes or no ? G.. From: M0FMT Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:55 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Just more boring old Beacon stations claging up MF.....look on RAC web site... http://www.rac.ca/ ........ 2008-11-10 Canadian Amateurs on 600 Metres Industry Canada has accepted an RAC proposal whereby selected Canadian radio amateurs would be permitted to operate in the vicinity of 500 kHz. These amateur operations would support Canada's efforts to action a proposal on the agenda of the 2011 World Radio Conference (WRC2011) which, if adopted, would create an amateur allocation in the 600-meter band. Industry Canada have authorized RAC to recommend amateurs who would be licensed to operate in the 504 to 509 kHz band with a maximum power of 20 watts ERP and bandwidth up to 1 kHz. Stations operating in this band would be technically operating under Special Developmental Licenses although they would all be radio amateurs. Distinct call signs would be used and the licenses would be renewable annually subject to the amateur demonstrating the research he has carried out. More information will follow shortly in the pages of TCA or via subsequent bulletins. Bryan Rawlings VE3QN/VE2QNN Radio Amateurs of/du Canada, Inc. 73 petefmt --- On Thu, 12/11/09, Graham wrote: From: Graham Subject: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 21:43 Can anyone clarify the situation as to who can work who is this the same as the USA ? Tnx - G .. From the IARU web site As of 30 October 2009 Canada issued two licences in the Developmental Service in the range 504-509 kHz. a.. VE1ZZ has been assigned VX9PSO and is reported on 504.6 kHz b.. VO1NA has been assigned VX9MRC and is reported on 507.77 and 508.5 kHz Two more stations, VE3OHH and VE7BDQ, are expected to become active soon. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma03.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMA034-8c64b13a1d11e3; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 05:43:33 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA088-8c64b13a1d11e3; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 05:43:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NF3hy-0005oU-Cz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:42:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NF3hx-0005oL-Va for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:42:17 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s10.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NF3hw-00087u-TZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:42:17 +0000 Received: from BLU146-DS7 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s10.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:42:10 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [203.198.168.241] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: To: , Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:42:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Nov 2009 10:42:10.0713 (UTC) FILETIME=[C54E3890:01CA71A9] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Correction to url's - .. Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0037_01CA71A9.C3ECD3D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01CA71A9.C3ECD3D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Apologies - error in url...try this one for present 137Khz windows. http://kl1x.com/Screen2.html China Tianjin OM89UA on a dodgy antenna= , looking for 7J1RLL and others - actually its not working too badly. http://kl1x.com/Screen.html Wasilla Alaska BP51 IP - seeing XKO ov= ernight off and on - Northern routes/paths still not too good from thi= s stations view. Laurence VR2 / KL 1 X Hong Kong....horizontally polarized. From: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com=20 Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 1:43 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: tempting fate... Well looking at DCF39 its S5 at 1338Z with my Eprobe on the wrong side= of the apartment block screened mostly to the West - so Im guessing= things are pretty reasonable long haul East West. Ive taken the antennae down off the apartment roof but couldn't resist= shoving the eprobe off the balcony on the fishing pole as a temp solu= tion - the Loran lines are pretty bright. Laurence in BY3A today and Hong Kong tomorrow. http://kl1x.com/Screen2.jpg China on a dodgy antenna http://kl1x.com/Screen.jpg Wasilla Alaska ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01CA71A9.C3ECD3D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Apologies - error in url...try this one for= present=20 137Khz windows.
 
http://kl1x.com/Screen2.html  =20 China Tianjin OM89UA on a dodgy antenna, looking for 7J1RLL and= others -=20 actually its not working too badly.
= http://kl1x.com/Screen.html    =20 Wasilla Alaska BP51 IP - seeing XKO overnight off and on - Northern ro= utes/paths=20 still not too good from this stations view.
 
= Laurence VR2 / KL 1 X  Hong Kong.= ...horizontally=20 polarized.
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Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 1:43 PM
Subject: tempting fate...

Well looking at DCF39 its S5 at 1338Z with= my Eprobe on=20 the wrong side of the apartment block screened mostly to the West - so= Im=20 guessing things are pretty reasonable long haul East West.
 
Ive taken the antennae down off the apartmen= t=20 roof but couldn=92t resist shoving the eprobe off the balcony on= the fishing=20 pole as a temp solution - the Loran lines are pretty bright.
 
Laurence in BY3A today and Hong Kong=20 tomorrow.
= http://kl1x.com/Screen2.jpg  =20 China on a dodgy antenna
ht= tp://kl1x.com/Screen.jpg    =20 Wasilla Alaska
 
------=_NextPart_000_0037_01CA71A9.C3ECD3D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db04.mx.aol.com (rly-db04.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.79]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB053-ac24b007bddde; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:08:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB048-ac24b007bddde; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:08:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9nG1-00027f-FG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:07:41 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9nG0-00027W-UT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:07:40 +0000 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([195.4.92.90]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9nFz-0001oX-1j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:07:40 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.18] (helo=8.mx.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.70 #1) id 1N9nFy-0005wY-CK; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:07:38 +0100 Received: from w042a.w.pppool.de ([89.58.4.42]:3542 helo=2a2d7ed321c6425) by 8.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #94) id 1N9nFx-0000r4-G9; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:07:38 +0100 From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" To: Cc: "'Peter Dodd'" References: <20091029094436.8EFF831E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <4AEA289D.504@ukonline.co.uk> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:07:35 +0100 Message-ID: <52A82D949D4E455C92DD64F39550C328@2a2d7ed321c6425> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcpY8ez//aa+wbIsSs6DCm2V43cB5AMidemgADDy4oAAABGy4A== In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: G3LDO in QRSS3 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002C_01CA6648.6BF5CDB0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01CA6648.6BF5CDB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Peter, Your QRSS3-signal is again good readable[Beckmann, Gerhard] on MF in JN59LN! 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hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:47:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 137 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0031_01CA6AA0.6CE132D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01CA6AA0.6CE132D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nw active cq 137.0 k/cs cw. 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------=_NextPart_000_0031_01CA6AA0.6CE132D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (rly-dd06.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.153]) by air-dd09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD092-b844af7da661f0; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:01:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD066-b844af7da661f0; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:01:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7Q72-00035o-H3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:00:36 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7Q71-00035f-PU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:00:35 +0000 Received: from smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com ([195.200.78.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7Q6y-0001CI-LY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:00:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 5548 invoked by uid 507); 9 Nov 2009 10:00:21 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO JR) (john.rabson@numeo.fr@217.67.155.178) by smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com with SMTP; 9 Nov 2009 10:00:21 +0100 Message-ID: <200911091000250405.1609D0BF@smtp2.numeo.fr> References: MCSID(1).941917242 X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:00:25 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Fwd: The death of Loran -again? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Received from Rob Gill : > >Possibly more likely this time? > >Questex link: >http://www.gpsworld.com/node/9087Loran > >Rob F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (rly-ma04.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.48]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA052-8a14b083b0833e; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:10:08 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA043-8a14b083b0833e; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:10:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBvKc-0000BD-LH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:09:14 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBvKc-0000Ay-4r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:09:14 +0000 Received: from mailout1.go2.pl ([193.17.41.11]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBvKa-0002R5-Aj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:09:14 +0000 Received: from mailout1.go2.pl (unknown [10.0.0.103]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B464A5D515A for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:09:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from unknown (unknown [10.0.0.42]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:09:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from 58-178-124-188.rev.pro-internet.pl [188.124.178.58] by poczta.o2.pl with ESMTP id jpXpIp; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:09:11 +0100 Message-ID: <008a01ca6ade$1a837ff0$3ab27cbc@niurhaxf0xcqlj> From: "Marcin" To: References: <000a01ca6ac5$cfc00550$6402a8c0@e7010> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:09:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-O2-Trust: 2, 62 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: Re: DI2AG daylight reports Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Walter! In Gdansk, Poland: 1900 -26 -0.6 0.503910 0 DI2AG JN59 27 Only 559km... -- Vy 73! Marcin SQ2BXI Dear MF, many thanks for the first WSPR-reports today. 14:54 PA3FNY 504Km 15:00 DF8JR 881 " 15:06 DD7PC 225 " 15:10 PA0EGO 507 " 15:26 G3XVL 753 " 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (rly-dc04.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.33]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC034-b1b4b08f2cc9; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:14:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC047-b1b4b08f2cc9; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:14:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NC7Z1-0000Yc-Si for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:12:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NC7Z1-0000YT-96 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:12:55 +0000 Received: from smtp07.online.nl ([194.134.42.52]) by 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boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002E_01CA6B53.F5B492B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.8 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,NO_REAL_NAME,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01CA6B53.F5B492B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Joe, dogbones around 2:00z 73 Victor -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens jcraig@mun.ca Verzonden: zaterdag 21 november 2009 22:26 Aan: blacksheep Onderwerp: Re: LF: VX9MRC Hello Victor, Thank-you for the report of early reception. 73 Joe On Sat, 21 Nov 2009, victor13@online.nl wrote: > First traces VX9MRC at 507.77KHz 19:50 utc > > 73 > > Victor > PA3FNY > JO22NC ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01CA6B53.F5B492B0 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="mrc2.jpg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="mrc2.jpg" /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAgAAAQABAAD/4QDmRXhpZgAASUkqAAgAAAAFABIBAwABAAAAAQAAADEB AgAcAAAASgAAADIBAgAUAAAAZgAAABMCAwABAAAAAQAAAGmHBAABAAAAegAAAAAAAABBQ0Qg U3lzdGVtcyBEaWdpdGFsIEltYWdpbmcAMjAwOToxMToyMiAwOToxMTowMgAFAACQBwAEAAAA MDIyMJCSAgAEAAAAMzYwAAKgBAABAAAAnQMAAAOgBAABAAAAKgAAAAWgBAABAAAAvAAAAAAA AAACAAEAAgAEAAAAUjk4AAIABwAEAAAAMDEwMAAAAAAAAAAA/8AAEQgAKgOdAwEiAAIRAQMR Af/bAIQABwQFBgUEBwYFBgcHBwgKEQsKCQkKFQ8QDBEZFhoaGBYYGBwfKCIcHSYeGBgjLyMm KSotLS0bITE0MSs0KCwtKwELCwsPDQ8eEREeQCskK0BAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBA QEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBA/8QAqAAAAgIDAQEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAwQBAgUG 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Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01CA6B61.58F40FB0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01CA6B61.58F40FB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mal, I agree with your comments about WSPR QSOs. Also pleased to see the renewed interest/increase in activity on 136/7= kHz. Earlier you said you had 1W ERP on 136, I am interested to know how yo= u measured/calculated that? 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Hi Mal,
I agree with your comments about WSPR= =20 QSOs.
Also pleased to see the renewed inter= est/increase=20 in activity on 136/7kHz.
Earlier you said you had 1W ERP on 13= 6, I am=20 interested to know how you measured/calculated that?
Vy 73,
Chris, G4AYT.
------=_NextPart_000_0015_01CA6B61.58F40FB0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (rly-mf09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.179]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF102-97b4afd9b4f2f5; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:46:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF091-97b4afd9b4f2f5; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:45:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N90CH-00043U-9l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:44:33 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N90CF-00043L-6h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:44:31 +0000 Received: from out1.ip02ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.238]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N90CD-0006y1-2D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:44:31 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlUFAOop/UpOlsBc/2dsb2JhbACCIDCBaolYBsgThDwE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,738,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="95370822" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.192.92]) by out1.ip02ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 13 Nov 2009 17:44:06 +0000 Message-ID: <00df01ca6488$e9244a80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:44:11 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: PIRATES Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00DC_01CA6488.E8DA4930" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00DC_01CA6488.E8DA4930 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lots of pirates reported around the east african coast and Indian ocea= n but now Radio pirates !!!! on 500. How would one know a Pirate? their style of sending on cw or the way= they WSPR. Beware of the WSPR merchants no ID just carriers switching on/off as= far as the casual radio amateur is concerned. Instead of a simple app= roach worldwide to issue Radio Amateur licences for the traditional CW= mode on 500, appliance operator licences were issued for Broadcast mo= des ie=20 CW beacons, Data beacons, and other transmissions, which must stop at= Country Borders and must not be reported by anyone hearing such trans= missions beyond these Borders. In other words the whole 500 khz business is Chaotic, whereas the othe= r MF allocation 160 metres is orderly and sensibly regulated using in= the main CW and SSB. It would appear the appropriate license authorities do not think the= Appliance Operator has much to contribute to the advancement or resea= rch on 500. The marine service has been using the band for the past 100 years and= has exhausted all possibilities and concluded it is of no further use= , with the advancement of Satellite communications technology.=20 500 in EU seems to be a fun band for WSPR Beacons where no operator pa= rticipation is required just unattended machines belching out bits of= data and generating QRM to the few Radio amateurs trying to get by on= CW. Let us have your opinion. De G3KEV =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_00DC_01CA6488.E8DA4930 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Lots of pirates reported around the= east african=20 coast and Indian ocean but now Radio pirates !!!! on 500.
How would one know a Pirate? their st= yle of sending=20 on cw or the way they WSPR.
Beware of the WSPR merchants no ID ju= st carriers=20 switching on/off as far as the casual radio amateur is concerned. Inst= ead of a=20 simple approach worldwide to issue Radio Amateur licences for the=20 traditional CW mode on 500, appliance operator licences were= issued=20 for Broadcast modes ie 
CW beacons, Data beacons,= and other=20 transmissions, which must stop at Country Borders and must not be= reported=20 by anyone hearing such transmissions beyond these Borders.
In other words the whole 500 khz = ;business is=20 Chaotic, whereas the other MF allocation 160 metres is order= ly and=20 sensibly regulated using in the main CW and SSB.
It would appear the appropriate licen= se authorities=20 do not think the Appliance Operator has much to contribute to the= =20 advancement or research on 500.
The marine service has been using the= band for the=20 past 100 years and has exhausted all possibilities and concluded it is= of no=20 further use, with the advancement of Satellite communications technolo= gy.=20
500 in EU seems to be a fun band for= WSPR Beacons=20 where no operator participation is required just unattended machi= nes=20 belching out bits of data and generating QRM to the few Radio amateurs= trying to=20 get by on CW.
Let us have your opinion.
De G3KEV
 
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_00DC_01CA6488.E8DA4930-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc12.mx.aol.com (rly-mc12.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.96]) by air-mc01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC011-da94b086c8a2fa; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:41:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC121-da94b086c8a2fa; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:41:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBych-0003m4-7Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:40:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBycg-0003lv-SR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:40:06 +0000 Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.140]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBycg-0002f7-AU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:40:06 +0000 Authentication-Results: ams-iport-1.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmYAAA77B0uQ/uCWe2dsb2JhbACZJ4JgAQELCyQGn0CXFII9gX8E X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,264,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="54921028" Received: from ams-core-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.150]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 21 Nov 2009 22:40:00 +0000 Received: from cisco.com (mrwint.cisco.com [64.103.71.48]) by ams-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nALMe0ex021955; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:40:00 GMT Received: from Stewarts-Computer-2.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cisco.com (8.11.7p3+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id nALMdxD12149; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:39:59 GMT Message-ID: <4B086C3F.3080309@g3ysx.org.uk> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:39:59 +0000 From: Stewart Bryant User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <785212.33618.qm@web28105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <785212.33618.qm@web28105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR BEACONS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) M0FMT wrote: > I am with Mal. WSPR has no place on the UK 501 / 504 Kc/s Amateur > /_Communication_/ Band. The Norwegian Licence has got it right - CW only! > > 73 petefmt This is not what Ofcom calls it. In their recent consultation they say: "Agenda Item 1.23 - Amateur Service in parts of the band 415 – 526.5 kHz "5.19 Radio amateurs use radio for experimental purposes and to provide communications in support of emergency services in some situations." So unless we are supporting an emergency, 500KHz seems to be a band for us to conduct experiments on. - Stewart/G3YSX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA022-a704b027799144; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:14:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA058-a704b027799144; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:14:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAL4H-0001lP-IX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:13:49 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAL4H-0001lG-3o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:13:49 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAL4F-0006Sg-CT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:13:49 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE9267B8057 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:13:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from PC_van_Rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-106.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.106]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0775F3863 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:13:39 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:13:41 +0100 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <4B027512.30004@ukonline.co.uk> References: <1f0624b90911160805u4435bd18ue805924594d8b997@mail.gmail.com> <20091117081718.BDD6EF3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> <1f0624b90911170146i3b3201abh55b54fd75e56fa50@mail.gmail.com> <4B027512.30004@ukonline.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091117101339.C0775F3863@smtps02.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Peter, likewise, I saw on Joe's website that you had a QRSS3 QSO with him earlier some days ago. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T At 11:04 17/11/2009, you wrote: >Congratulations Rik > >Peter, G3LDO > > Rik, > > > > Well done. > > > > I should be in a position to attempt the same as I saw solid QRS > > signals from Joe. > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > 2009/11/17 Rik Strobbe > > > > > > Gary, All, > > > > yesterday I could copy VX9MRC in QRSS3 with a surprising strong > > signal as early as 18 UTC, when I launched Argo. > > Throughout the evening the signal was strong and with little QSB > > from 19-22UTC, after that the signal became weaker with much more QSB. > > Probably because I had a sked with Joe at 22:40 UTC ;-) . > > But despite all we managed to complete the QSO with both way M > > report (would have been a solid O earlier the evening). > > A first ON-VE QSO on 500kHz and with +/- 4075km a new DX record for me > > Joe transmitted on 507.770 and I on 501.190. > > Between 19 and 22 UTC the signal was audible most of the time and > > would have been CW copy if it were not squeezed between the NDB > > "Z" carrier at 507.980 (S9+ here) the SM6BHZ CW/SSB test > > transmissions (up to S9) and a local birdie on 507.600. > > > > For the QSO I was running 300W into my 11m high / 25m long lazy-L > > antenna, estimated ERP about 1.5 Watt (at best, if the greenery > > does not absorb too much) > > > > The night from Sunday - Monday I left Argo running, VX9MRC > > produced a good signal all through the night and faded out at > > 07UTC. This would mean that there is a potential transatlantic > > path on 500kHz for 13h a day !!! > > > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > > > At 17:05 16/11/2009, you wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > > Good signals from both stations last night. > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo. > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD093-9074b0c11491a7; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:01:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD057-9074b0c11491a7; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:01:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCyiX-0005rX-7b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:58:17 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCyiU-0005rO-OP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:58:14 +0000 Received: from out1.ip02ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.238]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCyiS-0003XS-Cq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:58:14 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAPieC0tcGuD//2dsb2JhbACCJSuGS4RyBsgMhDkE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,280,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="125161074" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.26.224.255]) by out1.ip02ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 24 Nov 2009 16:57:59 +0000 Message-ID: <000e01ca6d27$45eaac40$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:57:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: SITOR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA6D27.45997F00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA6D27.45997F00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Looking for a good decode prog. mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA6D27.45997F00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Looking for a good decode prog.
mal/g3kev
 
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA6D27.45997F00-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (rly-mg04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.110]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG092-a0b4af4ab5a374; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:04:17 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG045-a0b4af4ab5a374; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:03:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6Xpj-0007F5-0N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:03:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6Xpi-0007Ev-FX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:03:06 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6Xpg-0005rQ-Ft for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:03:06 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 06 Nov 2009 23:02:58 -0000 Received: from p5DD343BB.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO Clemens04) [93.211.67.187] by mail.gmx.net (mp011) with SMTP; 07 Nov 2009 00:02:58 +0100 X-Authenticated: #17214767 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19Is9JJ6R5I43dApldXTltUaFwYhZponTmLYViRS4 LzX3XcdAU4DI6C Message-ID: <013601ca5f35$48450a30$0201a8c0@Clemens04> From: "Clemens Paul" To: References: <9afca2640911061357g15160968m9f249ed8aaeb6184@mail.gmail.com> <011501ca5f34$e615b1c0$0201a8c0@Clemens04> Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 00:02:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.53,0.53 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: SM6BHZ on 500kHz WSPR tonight? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0132_01CA5F3D.A7F2A020" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0132_01CA5F3D.A7F2A020 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just a second after my last mail his tx has stopped.:-) 73 Clemens DL4RAJ ----- Original Message ----- From: Clemens Paul To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 12:00 AM Subject: LF: Re: SM6BHZ on 500kHz WSPR tonight? Gus is on air,very strong as usual, but running 100%TX ! 73 Clemens DL4RAJ ----- Original Message ----- From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 10:57 PM Subject: LF: SM6BHZ on 500kHz WSPR tonight? Anyone know if Gus is planning to be on 500kHz WSPR tonight? I'm hoping that he will (at last) decode me if he does appear. BTW, two new reporters this evening PA0AM and G4CAO - thanks to both. 73s Roger G3XBM -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.52/2484 - Release Date: 11/06/09 07:38:00 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.52/2484 - Release Date: 11/06/09 07:38:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0132_01CA5F3D.A7F2A020 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Just a second after my last mail = ;his tx has=20 stopped.:-)
 
73
Clemens
DL4RAJ
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 07,= 2009 12:00=20 AM
Subject: LF: Re: SM6BHZ on 50= 0kHz WSPR=20 tonight?

Gus is on air,very strong as usual,=  but=20 running 100%TX !
 
73
Clemens
DL4RAJ
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 06,= 2009 10:57=20 PM
Subject: LF: SM6BHZ on 500k= Hz WSPR=20 tonight?

Anyone know if Gus is planning to be on 500kHz WSPR= tonight?=20 I'm hoping that he will (at last) decode me if he does appear.
BTW,=20 two new reporters this evening PA0AM and G4CAO - thanks to=20 both.

73s
Roger G3XBM
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http://ww= w.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM  =20  GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088


No virus found in this incoming message.
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------=_NextPart_000_0132_01CA5F3D.A7F2A020-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df09.mx.aol.com (rly-df09.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.22]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF074-5794b07f0de6; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:53:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF096-5794b07f0de6; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:53:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBqOP-0005S4-1q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:52:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBqOO-0005Rv-KU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:52:48 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f211.google.com ([209.85.220.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBqOM-0008FJ-Q6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:52:48 +0000 Received: by fxm3 with SMTP id 3so4651971fxm.4 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:52:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=7V/3FYpV91pXYrqerPZGzHGZl/L1LRZ3+iQSCqBa+RU=; b=rxc8spfQSkeUlnb2hXwj3WK6/5m5lA2HDs/VC1IGr+LNFyVvXRJJKkzHt7AhcmlnCX HyZZW4P/zAP6LCDSdwXSfbNEftaH65jseqX08i06SVZ4jIo1HXf8HMrsR3KAhEGO8Un+ JMupxEldigji5kUPXTAxbwrkqwxBGYotk6sFk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Y5ZwAGyA/FyURfw1zQOIn718hl/kGMp0gE03Wejdbs1/P0mDl1ER2xCYfwBrQ4CjGN UlQO41+5b5k7MU4kZxAFyQxzYOhAOWCivfdokwL9KuoIEXNdh/eR5pKHnnkf3nzjNKyg Hcht5rmaVG8q/bZrhhWGyxex+I1bpkR5Wdhh8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.163.205 with SMTP id q13mr270709hbd.132.1258811560778; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:52:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4B07ABA4.4060102@online.fr> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:52:40 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d305.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) CanI suggest you read thoroughly the documentation on how the mode works before making claims about the database.and validity. The database can only be updated by stations decoding and reportoing, and if each QSO partner has a reciprocal report in the database for near-adjacent time intervals , then they MUST have been in contact with eachother and cannot be classed as anything bu a valid QSO. Its impossible to have achieved this in any other way. Please read all the documentation first. Andy www.g4jnt.com This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health and safety police 2009/11/21 Wolf Ostwald : > Hello group ! > > > > I am not an expert with WSPR at all. But I followed the discussion regar= ding > false detection of calls thru the database. > > To my understanding the WSPR operator has NO way to really find out whet= her > the computer came to the right conclusion about the calls received, or > whether it just judged by means of plausibility. We humans have no sense= for > phaseshift, that means we have to believe the machine. > > I think that the database in the background is like a walking stick for= the > blind. > > Of course it=92s a new and exciting technology, but I doubt that it is= on one > and the same level with a regular exchange and therefore should not be > considered equally verifying a valid contact. > > My two pence worth=A0=A0 de wolf=A0 df2py > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me09.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINME091-9a74b13ca74248; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:37:23 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME033-9a74b13ca74248; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:36:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NF6Pf-0006tV-42 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:35:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NF6Pe-0006tM-Fr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:35:34 +0000 Received: from smtp23.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NF6Pc-0000oP-Tc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:35:34 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2313.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C4FBF7000088 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:35:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from F8BOJSQUSV2QH5 (231.154.87-79.rev.gaoland.net [79.87.154.231]) by msfrf2313.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 5146B7000085 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:35:22 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091130133522332.5146B7000085@msfrf2313.sfr.fr Message-ID: <002d01ca71c1$d3d7c300$0201a8c0@F8BOJSQUSV2QH5> From: "claude berthebaud" To: References: <3FCC9C19DE674B15A385181E7EFC37C1@Black> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:34:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091130-0, 30/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST=0.766,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Grabber improvements( lood applause) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002A_01CA71CA.351BD770" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01CA71CA.351BD770 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Markus Really good your grabber Markus thank you for working for us and the pleasure of a QSO on 137 kHz Claude F8boj JN16WA ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Markus Vester=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 12:19 PM Subject: LF: Grabber improvements Dear LF Group, my LF colour-DF grabber has recently become five years old, and I fe= lt it could do with a little refurbishment. It now updates more freque= ntly, the fullband window scrolls slightly faster and shows a wider QR= SS strip. I hope you may find this useful. The URL is still the same http://freenet-homepage.de/df6nm/Grabber.htm , and there is a mirror at http://www.alice-dsl.net/df6nm/grabber/Grabber.htm . 73 de Markus, DF6NM ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01CA71CA.351BD770 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Markus
Really good your grabber Markus
thank you for=20 working for us and the pleasure of a QSO on 137 kHz
Claude F8boj JN16WA
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 30, 20= 09 12:19=20 PM
Subject: LF: Grabber improvem= ents

Dear LF Group,
 
my LF colour-DF grabber has re= cently=20 become five years old, and I felt it could do with a=20 little refurbishment. It now updates more frequently,= the=20 fullband window scrolls slightly faster and shows a wider QRSS= =20 strip. = I hope you=  may find this=20 useful.
 
The URL is still the same
and there is a mirror at
 
73 de Markus, DF6NM
 
------=_NextPart_000_002A_01CA71CA.351BD770-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df11.mx.aol.com (rly-df11.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.24]) by air-df08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF081-5884af2b5aafb; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:23:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF111-5884af2b5aafb; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:23:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N60Q7-0001FX-PT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:22:27 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N60Q7-0001FO-C4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:22:27 +0000 Received: from smtp21.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.4]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N60Q5-00063W-8t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:22:27 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2116.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DFB2B7000096 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 12:22:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (145.220.195-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.195.220.145]) by msfrf2116.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 95ED87000092 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 12:22:19 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091105112219614.95ED87000092@msfrf2116.sfr.fr Message-ID: <000801ca5e0a$34501d70$0201a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: References: <36F0AC319F8D4DA2B15968DBEB9CDEBD@ns94d01ae4d850> <002d01ca5dff$c7ea38a0$0201a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> <200911051155250437.01D98744@smtp2.numeo.fr> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 12:22:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091104-1, 04/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: LF F8BOJ 30dB over noise on 137705 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi John and Marco merci for the report very good day and week end Claude f8boj JN16WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "John RABSON" To: Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 11:55 AM Subject: LF: LF F8BOJ 30dB over noise on 137705 > At 1054z. > > John > F5VLF > > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > > On 05/11/2009 at 11:07 Claude Berthebaud wrote: > >>Hello Henny and LF >>Many thanks for the pic control ...now I'm in beacon >>137705.hz qrss3 for the eventualy SWL good week and >>Best 73 's >>Claude F8boj JN16WA >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: henny van elst >> To: blacksheep >> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 10:51 AM >> Subject: LF: BOJ 04-11.jpg >> >> >> Hi LF, >> Capture BOJ, >> Henny pa3cpm >> best 73s >> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden >>verzonden: >> BOJ 04-11.jpg >> >> Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen >>virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet >>toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt >>weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB061-adb4affdcf61bc; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:50:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB081-adb4affdcf61bc; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:50:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9cfu-0005ce-K1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:49:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9cfu-0005cV-3u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:49:42 +0000 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([195.4.92.90]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9cft-0000LU-09 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:49:42 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.20] (helo=10.mx.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.70 #1) id 1N9cfr-0005Du-RB; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:49:39 +0100 Received: from w1efd.w.pppool.de ([89.58.30.253]:1714 helo=2a2d7ed321c6425) by 10.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #94) id 1N9cfq-0007Ry-Ty; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:49:39 +0100 From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" To: Cc: "'Roger Lapthorn'" References: <9afca2640911141508w69cbb664i4d18d02e39c480d0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:49:39 +0100 Message-ID: <83CB7D6E669349588555DE90E3A24F30@2a2d7ed321c6425> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <9afca2640911141508w69cbb664i4d18d02e39c480d0@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: Acplf+DIwyNzs6nSRIOzlH2WINDKbgAYKaUg X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: AW: 500kHz WSPR - Germany at last Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01CA65E9.B7497370" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01CA65E9.B7497370 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Roger, the pleasure is all mine. I have waited long for decoding your call (hi). MF is a very interesting band and we in DL would be happy if we could join it. vy 73 de Gerhard // DK6NI =================== _____ Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Roger Lapthorn Gesendet: Sonntag, 15. November 2009 00:09 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: 500kHz WSPR - Germany at last 2009-11-14 23:04 G3XBM 0.503892 -29 1 JO02dg 0.002 DK6NI JN59ln 805 108 Thanks so much for this report, which is my first from Germany and now my 7th country with <2mW ERP. 73s Roger G3XBM -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01CA65E9.B7497370 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Roger,<= /o:p>

 

the= pleasure is all mine.

I= have waited long for decoding your call  (hi).

MF= is a very interesting band and we in DL would be happy if we could join it.

 

vy= 73 de Gerhard  //  DK6NI

 

=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

 

 

 

 

Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org [mailto:owner-r= sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Roger Lapthorn
Gesendet: Sonntag, 15.= November 2009 00:09
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: 500kHz WSP= R - Germany at last

 

=  2009-11-14 23:04 

 G3XBM 

=  0.503892 

=  -29 

=  1 

 JO02dg 

=  0.002 

 DK6NI 

 JN59ln 

=  805 

=  108 


Thanks so much for this report, which is my first from Germany and now= my 7th country with <2mW ERP.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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------=_NextPart_000_000C_01CA65E9.B7497370-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc07.mx.aol.com (rly-mc07.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.91]) by air-mc07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC072-d824b05d15e138; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:14:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC072-d824b05d15e138; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:14:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBGBr-0003ad-PB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:13:27 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBGBr-0003aU-5G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:13:27 +0000 Received: from qmta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.59.227]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBGBq-00030D-53 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:13:27 +0000 Received: from OMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.19]) by QMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 73531d00E0QuhwU5CBDJbj; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:13:18 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([76.23.233.102]) by OMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 7BDJ1d00G2DDHkk3NBDJMn; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:13:18 +0000 Message-ID: <004001ca696d$e13eee30$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:13:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.836,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 QRSS10 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003C_01CA6943.F842C090" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01CA6943.F842C090 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Nicolas That's impressive received s/n! You must have an excellent receiving setup and a quiet location. Light traces of signal were seen by Laurence in China just before dawn so perhaps condx are very good. Now in QRSS3 mode. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ----- Original Message ----- From: F4DTL@aol.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 5:26 PM Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 QRSS10 Hello Jay,nice signal here. F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC756 Pro Ant: 10m tuned MF vertical Dans un e-mail daté du 19/11/2009 13:44:55 Paris, Madrid, jrusgrove@comcast.net a écrit : T/A enthusiasts Thanks to Rik, Andrey, Pat, Ralph (and others for trying) from the Tuesday night QRSS3 session. Very surprised to see the signal received in Russia! Tonight WE2XGR/2 will transmit in QRSS10 mode from ~ 2130 to ~ 2300Z and QRSS3 from ~2300 to ~ 0030Z on 506.5 kHz. The QRSS10 transmission (letters XGR) will take about 4-1/2 minutes which may be longer than the T/A QSB cycle to western EU. It will be interesting to see if QRSS10 might be too slow for T/A work. As usual, any and all reports are appreciated. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01CA6943.F842C090 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Nicolas
 
That's impressive received s/n! You must have an excellent receiv= ing setup=20 and a quiet location. Light traces of signal were seen by Laurence in= China just=20 before dawn so perhaps condx are very good.
 
Now in QRSS3 mode.
 
Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 19,= 2009 5:26=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRS= S3=20 QRSS10

Hello Jay,nice signal here.
 
F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP

RX : Icom IC756 Pro
Ant: 10m tuned MF=20 vertical

 
Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 19/11/2009 13:44:55 Paris, Madrid, jrusgrove@comcast.net= a =E9crit :
T/A=20 enthusiasts

Thanks to Rik, Andrey, Pat, Ralph (and others= for trying)=20 from the Tuesday night QRSS3 session. Very
surprised to see th= e signal=20 received in Russia!

Tonight WE2XGR/2 will transmit in QRSS1= 0 mode=20 from ~ 2130 to ~ 2300Z and QRSS3 from ~2300 to ~ 0030Z
on 506.= 5=20 kHz.

The QRSS10 transmission (letters XGR) will take about= 4-1/2=20 minutes which may be longer than the
T/A QSB cycle to western= EU. It=20 will be interesting to see if QRSS10 might be too slow for T/A wor= k.
As=20 usual, any and all reports are appreciated.

Jay W1VD = =20 WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
 
 

------=_NextPart_000_003C_01CA6943.F842C090-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb02.mx.aol.com (rly-mb02.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.155]) by air-mb01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB014-cf34afd794a378; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:20:48 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB027-cf34afd794a378; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:20:44 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8xw0-00038h-BY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:19:36 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8xvz-00038Y-SU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:19:35 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s11.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.22]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8xvx-00062p-5h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:19:35 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W26 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s11.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:19:26 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [216.137.223.53] From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China To: Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:19:26 -0900 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Nov 2009 15:19:26.0966 (UTC) FILETIME=[B0433960:01CA6474] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_577bd696-583a-478e-9a75-3f7139420376_" Subject: LF: Last chance saloon 500 from Alaska X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_577bd696-583a-478e-9a75-3f7139420376_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Im leaving for China in the morning to go back to work but will be listeni= ng on CW/QRSS on 500 and 138 over the next hour or so if anyone wants to= have a go from Eu on the dawn/dusk Alaska path. =20 The receiver will hopefully stay on here in Alaska and Ill be able to "lis= ten" remotely.=20 =20 Over the Pole didnt sound too bright as DCF39 wasnt that strong here but= things do change pretty quickly at times. As ever Im still on Rx only= until I get more time. =20 Ill be back here for Christmas... =20 Laurence WE2 XPQ Part 5 Experimental KL1X Wasilla Palmer Alaska BP51 IP Will be KL1X/BY3A Tianjin China =20 _________________________________________________________________ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=3Drestaurants&form=3DMFESRP&publ=3DWLHMTAG&cr= ea=3DTEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1=3D --_577bd696-583a-478e-9a75-3f7139420376_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Im leaving for China in the morning to go back to work but will be listeni= ng on CW/QRSS on 500 and 138 over the next hour or so if anyone wants to= have a go from Eu on the dawn/dusk Alaska path.
 
The receiver will hopefully stay on here in Alaska and Ill be able to "lis= ten" remotely.
 
Over the Pole didnt sound too bright as DCF39 wasnt that strong here but= things do change pretty quickly at times. As  ever  Im still on= Rx only until I get more time.
 
Ill be back here for Christmas...
 
Laurence WE2 XPQ Part 5 Experimental
KL1X Wasilla Palmer Alaska BP51 IP
Will be KL1X/BY3A Tianjin China

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Try it now.<= /a> =3D --_577bd696-583a-478e-9a75-3f7139420376_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (rly-dc03.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.32]) by air-dc02.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDC024-b124b0d4eb7fc; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:35:33 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC036-b124b0d4eb7fc; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:35:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDJsu-00040v-QI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:34:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDJsu-00040m-7c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:34:24 +0000 Received: from mail0.citigroup.com ([192.193.221.105] helo=mail.citigroup.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDJst-00027a-Ch for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:34:24 +0000 Received: from imbhub-mw03.nam.nsroot.net ([159.17.94.190]) by imbaspam-ss03.namdmz.dmzroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_EXT/ev: 24737 $) with ESMTP id nAPFYFjw016415 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:34:16 GMT Received: from exlniht02.eur.nsroot.net (exlniht02.eur.nsroot.net [169.186.207.99]) by imbhub-mw03.nam.nsroot.net (Switch-3.4.0/Switch-3.4.0) with ESMTP id nAPFNmue031249 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:34:14 GMT Received: from exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net ([169.186.207.105]) by exlniht02.eur.nsroot.net ([169.186.207.99]) with mapi; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:33:26 +0000 From: "Scholz, Marco " To: "'lf group (rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org)'" Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:33:24 +0000 Thread-Topic: LF parts for sale from Heinz, DM2BHG Thread-Index: AcpsSn4dV1RR/JPUQnOIYWYmmv97rgBmNVRw Message-ID: <254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C796D4C6@exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net> Accept-Language: en-US, en-GB Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C796D4C6@exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net> acceptlanguage: en-US, en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 169.175.16.182 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_000_254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C796D4C6exlnmb06eurns_" Subject: LF: LF parts for sale from Heinz, DM2BHG X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --_000_254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C796D4C6exlnmb06eurns_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, My friend Heinz,DM2BHG has some LF parts for sale. More details you can re= quest directly from Heinz via email -> mailto:h.borde@t-online.de - TF-Measurement Set 62 from Pr=E4zitronik includes MV62(NF level meter/Rx= ), GF62(NF Tx), Wobbel set and level display device. - very old: GF 7 from Clamann und Granert (Generator from a TF-Measurement= set - up to 2MHz) vy73 Marco DD7PC --_000_254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C796D4C6exlnmb06eurns_ Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="winmail.dat" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef; name="winmail.dat" eJ8+IpIaAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEJgAEAIQAAADVBNTE3QjIx NzRGRDc2NENBNzY2MzM1QTZGRkFEQTgyAEMHAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEFgAMADgAAANkHCwAZAA8A IQAYAAMATwEBIIADAA4AAADZBwsAGQAPACEAGQADAFABAQiABwAYAAAASVBNLk1pY3Jvc29mdCBN YWlsLk5vdGUAMQgBBIABACUAAABMRiBwYXJ0cyBmb3Igc2FsZSBmcm9tIEhlaW56LCBETTJCSEcA 2gsBCAAFAAQAAAAAAAAAAAABCQAEAAIAAAAAAAAAAQOQBgDACgAAPQAAAAIBfwABAAAARQAAADwy NTQxMDJDQ0MzMTAxMDRDQTlEQTlEQTMxRUJEMDNDRTAyQzc5NkQ0QzZAZXhsbm1iMDYuZXVyLm5z cm9vdC5uZXQ+AAAAAAIBCRABAAAA9wEAAPMBAADHAgAATFpGddbOJ5ADAAoAcmNwZzEyNeIyA0N0 ZXgFQQEDAfdPCoACpAPjAgBjaArAc/BldDAgBxMCgA/zAFB/BFYIVQeyEcUOUQMBEMcy9wYABsMR xTMERhDJEtsR09sI7wn3Oxi/DjA1EcIMYM5jAFALCQFkMzYRUAum0CBIZWwYUCwKogqAmE15IANQ CJBuZB2BAQuAeixETTJCSCxHIBDwBCBzA3BlIOhMRiAKsXQEIAIQBcDycwdAZS4F0AWwIDABAJcB kAMQBCB5CGAgYwORlRjAcQpQcwVAZGkYwDhjdGweYgNwHuQgdhkHMCBlAMADES0+IMEk4nRvOmgu BuALINBlQHQtAiBsC4AhUAcBAB30HfQtIFRGLfxNZR/QCHAk0AnwBUAGYA0FQDYU4CPjUHJcJ2Bl NHppdANgAwBrOiALgGMKQAEABCBNVtkpEChOIGAhQHYdoCVQAxEwBJAvUngpLCAUR0YrNFQsYldv YvZiK8ERISAAcB7QK5QjUN5zC1EeYAEAJJBjIVAnDE0rsHIeYAbwZDoskSC6NyPUQwtgA4EDoHUe wZxHcgBwBJAFQChHCfD9BJBhJaAFwCPjJLAn7S3iESfAdXAgJaAgMk2ISHopJwp2eTcV0A8eBArA BaAd9EREN1AKQycKfTlgAB8AQgABAAAALgAAAFMAYwBoAG8AbAB6ACwAIABNAGEAcgBjAG8AIABb AEkAQwBHAC0ASQBUAF0AAAAAAB8AZQABAAAANAAAAG0AcwA1ADIAMQA2ADUAQABpAG0AYwBlAHUA LgBlAHUALgBzAHMAbQBiAC4AYwBvAG0AAAAfAGQAAQAAAAoAAABTAE0AVABQAAAAAAACAUEAAQAA AIQAAAAAAAAAgSsfpL6jEBmdbgDdAQ9UAgAAAIBTAGMAaABvAGwAegAsACAATQBhAHIAYwBvACAA WwBJAEMARwAtAEkAVABdAAAAUwBNAFQAUAAAAG0AcwA1ADIAMQA2ADUAQABpAG0AYwBlAHUALgBl AHUALgBzAHMAbQBiAC4AYwBvAG0AAAAfABoMAQAAAC4AAABTAGMAaABvAGwAegAsACAATQBhAHIA YwBvACAAWwBJAEMARwAtAEkAVABdAAAAAAAfAB8MAQAAADQAAABtAHMANQAyADEANgA1AEAAaQBt AGMAZQB1AC4AZQB1AC4AcwBzAG0AYgAuAGMAbwBtAAAAHwAeDAEAAAAKAAAAUwBNAFQAUAAAAAAA AgEZDAEAAACEAAAAAAAAAIErH6S+oxAZnW4A3QEPVAIAAACAUwBjAGgAbwBsAHoALAAgAE0AYQBy AGMAbwAgAFsASQBDAEcALQBJAFQAXQAAAFMATQBUAFAAAABtAHMANQAyADEANgA1AEAAaQBtAGMA ZQB1AC4AZQB1AC4AcwBzAG0AYgAuAGMAbwBtAAAACwBAOgEAAAAfABoAAQAAABIAAABJAFAATQAu AE4AbwB0AGUAAAAAAAMA8T8JBAAACwBAOgEAAAADAP0/5AQAAAIBCzABAAAAEAAAAFpReyF0/XZM p2YzWm/62oIDABcAAQAAAEAAOQAAeiGg5G3KAUAACDAmHseg5G3KAQsAAgABAAAACwAjAAAAAAAD ACYAAAAAAAsAKQAAAAAACwArAAAAAAADAC4AAAAAAAMANgAAAAAAAgFHAAEAAAAzAAAAYz1VUzth PSA7cD1TYWxvbW9uO2w9RVhMTk1CMDYtMDkxMTI1MTUzMzI1Wi0xMjcyODQAAAMAYgAAAAAACwBj AAAAAAAfAHAAAQAAAEoAAABMAEYAIABwAGEAcgB0AHMAIABmAG8AcgAgAHMAYQBsAGUAIABmAHIA bwBtACAASABlAGkAbgB6ACwAIABEAE0AMgBCAEgARwAAAAAAAgFxAAEAAAAbAAAAAcpsSn4dV1RR /JPUQnOIYWYmmv97rgBmNVRwAAsAFwwAAAAAHwA1EAEAAACKAAAAPAAyADUANAAxADAAMgBDAEMA QwAzADEAMAAxADAANABDAEEAOQBEAEEAOQBEAEEAMwAxAEUAQgBEADAAMwBDAEUAMAAyAEMANwA5 ADYARAA0AEMANgBAAGUAeABsAG4AbQBiADAANgAuAGUAdQByAC4AbgBzAHIAbwBvAHQALgBuAGUA dAA+AAAAAAADAIAQ/////x8A8xABAAAAUgAAAEwARgAgAHAAYQByAHQAcwAgAGYAbwByACAAcwBh AGwAZQAgAGYAcgBvAG0AIABIAGUAaQBuAHoALAAgAEQATQAyAEIASABHAC4ARQBNAEwAAAAAAAsA 9BAAAAAACwD1EAAAAAALAPYQAAAAAEAABzB9Mrug5G3KAQMA3j+vbwAAHwD4PwEAAAAuAAAAUwBj AGgAbwBsAHoALAAgAE0AYQByAGMAbwAgAFsASQBDAEcALQBJAFQAXQAAAAAAAgH5PwEAAABNAAAA AAAAANynQMjAQhAatLkIACsv4YIBAAAAAAAAAC9PPVNBTE9NT04vT1U9RVVST1BFL0NOPVJFQ0lQ SUVOVFMvQ049MDAwMDM1MjE2NQAAAAAfAPo/AQAAAC4AAABTAGMAaABvAGwAegAsACAATQBhAHIA YwBvACAAWwBJAEMARwAtAEkAVABdAAAAAAACAfs/AQAAAE0AAAAAAAAA3KdAyMBCEBq0uQgAKy/h ggEAAAAAAAAAL089U0FMT01PTi9PVT1FVVJPUEUvQ049UkVDSVBJRU5UUy9DTj0wMDAwMzUyMTY1 AAAAAAMAGUAAAAAAAwAaQAAAAAADAF1AAAAAAAMACVkBAAAAAwAAgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYA AAAAEIUAAAAAAAALAACACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAADhQAAAAAAAAsAAIAIIAYAAAAAAMAA AAAAAABGAAAAAA6FAAAAAAAAAwAAgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAAYUAAAAAAAADAACACCAG AAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAAYhQAAAAAAAAsAAIAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAAAaFAAAAAAAA CwAAgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAgoUAAAAAAAADAA00+T8AAAIBFDQBAAAAEAAAAFSUocAp fxAbpYcIACsqJRcfAD0AAQAAAAIAAAAAAAAAHwA3AAEAAABKAAAATABGACAAcABhAHIAdABzACAA ZgBvAHIAIABzAGEAbABlACAAZgByAG8AbQAgAEgAZQBpAG4AegAsACAARABNADIAQgBIAEcAAAAA AB8AAICGAwIAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAQAAAB4AAABhAGMAYwBlAHAAdABsAGEAbgBnAHUAYQBnAGUA AAAAAAEAAAAaAAAAZQBuAC0AVQBTACwAIABlAG4ALQBHAEIAAAAAAB8AAICGAwIAAAAAAMAAAAAA AABGAQAAACAAAAB4AC0AbQBzAC0AaABhAHMALQBhAHQAdABhAGMAaAAAAAEAAAACAAAAAAAAACfo --_000_254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C796D4C6exlnmb06eurns_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (rly-mf06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.176]) by air-mf05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF051-9634b0bba7f365; 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Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:49:45 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B0BBA49.7070608@online.fr> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:49:45 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XKO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Lubos , Dex , LF Yes good copy of WD2XKO last night . 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj Lubos OK2BVG a =E9crit : > Hello LF! > I saw nice signal from XKO this morning. > > 73! > > Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS > =20 > _________________________________________________________________ > Nov=E1 Windows 7: Zjedodu=B9te si ka=BEdodenn=ED =FAkoly. Kter=FD po=E8= =EDta=E8 je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD? > http://windows.microsoft.com/shop > =20 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com (rly-md01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.139]) by air-md07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD071-8e24b0548672ae; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:30:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD012-8e24b0548672ae; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:30:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NB74W-0008OQ-35 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:29:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NB74V-0008OD-9M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:29:15 +0000 Received: from qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.96]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NB74S-0001WH-Vg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:29:14 +0000 Received: from OMTA15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.87]) by QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 70b41d0031swQuc591V4Vl; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:29:04 +0000 Received: from DELL4 ([76.23.233.102]) by OMTA15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 71e91d00g2DDHkk3b1e9hH; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:38:10 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01ca691c$1cf15820$6c01a8c0@DELL4> From: To: References: <000501ca67ba$e4817db0$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <002e01ca682b$c42ac460$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <00b301ca6915$df7b7440$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <20091119125934.BBA76F3863@smtps02.kuleuven.be> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:27:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 QRSS10 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ~ 100 watts ERP. Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe" To: Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 7:59 AM Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 QRSS10 > Jay, > > what ERP were you running ? > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > At 13:43 19/11/2009, you wrote: >>T/A enthusiasts >> >>Thanks to Rik, Andrey, Pat, Ralph (and others for trying) from the Tuesday >>night QRSS3 session. Very >>surprised to see the signal received in Russia! >> >>Tonight WE2XGR/2 will transmit in QRSS10 mode from ~ 2130 to ~ 2300Z and >>QRSS3 from ~2300 to ~ 0030Z >>on 506.5 kHz. >> >>The QRSS10 transmission (letters XGR) will take about 4-1/2 minutes which >>may be longer than the >>T/A QSB cycle to western EU. It will be interesting to see if QRSS10 might >>be too slow for T/A work. >>As usual, any and all reports are appreciated. >> >>Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 >> >> >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Andrey rn3agc" >>To: >>Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 3:33 AM >>Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 >> >> >> > Hello Jay, Rik, LF, >> > Captures at 00.32 and 01.42. >> > Rik, here frequency 506501. >> > >> > 73 >> > Andrey / KO85sv >> > >> > >> >> T/A enthusiasts >> >> >> >> WE2XGR/2 will beacon in QRSS3 mode tonight on 506.5 kHz from ~ 2130 to >> >> ~ >> >> 0030 Z. Reports appreciated. >> >> >> >> Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df11.mx.aol.com (rly-df11.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.24]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF051-5894aee17181e5; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 18:18:06 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF112-5894aee17181e5; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 18:17:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N4jf8-00031K-6P for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 23:16:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N4jf7-00031B-JH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 23:16:41 +0000 Received: from mailt.toya.net.pl ([217.113.224.9] ident=postfix) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N4jda-0003M0-0L for 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autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: MF_Report SM6BGP Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070104070709080003020908" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------070104070709080003020908 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Gunnar, LF group tonight you are getting many screenshots.. :) please find (enclosed) another one of ur qrss3 signal taken at 2302 utc; qrg: 501.4 kHz 73 de Piotr, sq7mpj qth: Lodz /jo91rs/ --------------070104070709080003020908 Content-Type: image/jpeg; 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(VPS 091107-1, 07/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: RE: dd7pc F8boj Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01CA606B.91244180" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01CA606B.91244180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Marco=20 Sure glad I receive your qsl ..=20 thank you for this good qso the wx does not have a good signal here it= rains with wind=20 there is the qrm. rennouvelerons us again this qso .. in better condit= ions=20 Good Sunday too=20 Claude F8boj JN16WA merci encore Marco pour le qso. rechercher ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Scholz, Marco=20 To: 'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'=20 Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 11:33 AM Subject: LF: RE: dd7pc F8boj Good morning CLaude, i'm very, very happy now about our QSO. Sending you in this moment= my final. That's my new ODX with 538km. Amazing with my light setup, but i ben= efit from your good antenna. Please can i send you my QSL card direct? have a nice sunday vy73 Marco DD7PC mailto://dd7pc@gmx.de http://www.qsl.net/dd7pc ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group= @blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Claude Berthebaud Sent: 08 November 2009 11:15 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: dd7pc F8boj HI Marco and LF Marco GM ur M in JN16WA...to day.. many thanks for the qso best 73 's Claude F8boj ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01CA606B.91244180 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 20= 09 11:33=20 AM
Subject: LF: RE: dd7pc F8boj<= /DIV>

Good morning CLaude,=
i'm very, very happy now ab= out our QSO. Sending you in=20 this moment my final.
That's my new ODX with 538k= m. Amazing with my light=20 setup, but i benefit from your good antenna.
Please can i send you my QS= L card=20 direct?
 
have a nice sunday
vy73
Marco
DD7PC
 
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Clau= de=20 Berthebaud
Sent: 08 November 2009 11:15
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: dd7pc=20 F8boj

HI Marco and LF
Marco GM ur M in JN16WA...to= =20 day..
many thanks for the qso
best 73 's
Claude=20 F8boj
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F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb08.mx.aol.com (rly-mb08.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.166]) by air-mb04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB043-d214b0a4ded17e; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:55:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB085-d214b0a4ded17e; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:55:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCUgX-0008R6-OD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:54:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCUgX-0008Qx-CQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:54:13 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCUgW-0001J3-OG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:54:13 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1652E51C00A for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:54:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from PC_van_Rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-106.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.106]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id D174231E704 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:54:04 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:54:11 +0100 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <20091122201654.1vcwyecs0sgoswcw@webmail6.kuleuven.be> References: <4B04EADA.4090707@telus.net> <57a24ca70911190525s5bbf2768gcfe5e7150eb8f784@mail.gmail.com> <20091121211012.fehyrbxl4400ckc8@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <20091122201654.1vcwyecs0sgoswcw@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091123085404.D174231E704@smtps01.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: SAIT "MT 430 B" 500kHz transmitter Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear all, I have been offered a SAIT "MT 430 B" 500kHz marine transmitter. Google revealed little, just that it is a "main ship transmitter". Any information (modes, output power etc...) or experience reports with this rig is welcome. 73, Rik ON7YD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG011-9f04af2b15f28f; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:05:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG012-9f04af2b15f28f; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:05:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N608S-00017w-Nu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:04:12 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N608R-00017n-AP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:04:11 +0000 Received: from mail0.citigroup.com ([192.193.221.105] helo=mail.citigroup.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N608O-0005qm-Dd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:04:10 +0000 Received: from imbhub-mw03.nam.nsroot.net ([159.17.94.190]) by imbaspam-ss03.namdmz.dmzroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_EXT/ev: 24737 $) with ESMTP id nA5B415R011798 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:04:02 GMT Received: from exlniht01.eur.nsroot.net (exlniht01.eur.nsroot.net [169.186.207.97]) by imbhub-mw03.nam.nsroot.net (Switch-3.4.0/Switch-3.4.0) with ESMTP id nA5B3OfO008581 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:04:00 GMT Received: from exlnht01.eur.nsroot.net (169.182.192.16) by exlniht01.eur.nsroot.net (169.186.207.97) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.375.2; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:03:39 +0000 Received: from exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net ([169.186.207.105]) by exlnht01.eur.nsroot.net ([169.182.192.16]) with mapi; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:03:39 +0000 From: "Scholz, Marco " To: "'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'" Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:03:37 +0000 Thread-Topic: Re: BOJ 04-11.jpg Thread-Index: AcpeAJGz+tFHpcI5Q5SsjfbGmJHXfwABvL4Q Message-ID: <254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C7425869@exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net> References: <36F0AC319F8D4DA2B15968DBEB9CDEBD@ns94d01ae4d850> <002d01ca5dff$c7ea38a0$0201a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> In-Reply-To: <002d01ca5dff$c7ea38a0$0201a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> Accept-Language: en-US, en-GB Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US, en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WiganSS: 01000000010018exlniht01.eur.nsroot.net ID0044<254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C7425869@exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 169.175.16.182 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: Re: BOJ 04-11.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_004_254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C7425869exlnmb06eurns_" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_004_254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C7425869exlnmb06eurns_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C7425869exlnmb06eurns_" --_000_254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C7425869exlnmb06eurns_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Claude, wow what a nice daytime signal. vy73 Marco DD7PC JN49ax ________________________________ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org] On Behalf Of Claude Berthebaud Sent: 05 November 2009 11:07 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: BOJ 04-11.jpg Hello Henny and LF Many thanks for the pic control ...now I'm in beacon 137705.hz qrss3 for the eventualy SWL good week and Best 73 's Claude F8boj JN16WA ----- Original Message ----- From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 10:51 AM Subject: LF: BOJ 04-11.jpg Hi LF, Capture BOJ, Henny pa3cpm best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzond= en: BOJ 04-11.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen= het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Contro= leer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijla= gen worden afgehandeld. --_000_254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C7425869exlnmb06eurns_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Claude,
wow what a nice daytime signal.
 
vy73
Marco
DD7PC
JN49ax

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o= rg=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Claude=20 Berthebaud
Sent: 05 November 2009 11:07
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: BOJ=20 04-11.jpg

Hello Henny and LF
Many thanks for the pic control ...now I'= m in=20 beacon
137705.hz qrss3 for the eventualy SWL&nbs= p; =20 good week and
Best 73 's
Claude F8boj JN16WA
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009= 10:51=20 AM
Subject: LF: BOJ 04-11.jpg

Hi LF,
Capture BOJ,
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
Het bericht kan nu= met het=20 volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
BOJ=20 04-11.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveilig= ing=20 tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen= niet=20 toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt we= ten=20 hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.
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Anyone monitoring 500 for dx at=20 present.
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Server) with ESMTP id 66FA81C00085 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:24:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.53.205]) by mwinf3528.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id E55BB1C00083 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:24:56 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091115182456939.E55BB1C00083@mwinf3528.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <1043CB7D895D4161B1C87CDD140332A2@AGB> From: "Graham" To: Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:24:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Running mW wspr Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00F2_01CA6620.EEB1D960" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00F2_01CA6620.EEB1D960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Running wspr at 100 % duty , not sure of the power to the Ae as th= e needle on the power meter is not moving , the first 3 small div= isions on the bird43 are 10 watts , the needle is still inside the= -0- no rx as I have a set of spurs right over the wspr band at= the moment=20 spots from G4WGT 33k G3RIk 65k M0BMU 270 ! 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Running   wspr at 100 % dut= y , not sure=20 of the  power to the  Ae as the  needle on the  po= wer meter=20 is  not  moving , the  first 3 small divisions on= the =20 bird43 are 10 watts  , the needle is  still inside the = -0- =20 no rx as I have a set of  spurs  right over the  wspr= band =20 at the  moment
 
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------=_NextPart_000_00F2_01CA6620.EEB1D960-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db06.mx.aol.com (rly-db06.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.81]) by air-db07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB071-ad04b05c77c104; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:33:00 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB066-ad04b05c77c104; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:32:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBFWr-0003LD-91 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:31:05 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBFWq-0003L4-CZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:31:04 +0000 Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com ([205.188.105.144]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBFWo-0005F6-IX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:31:04 +0000 Received: from imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (imo-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.137]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nAJMUoPo022396 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:30:50 -0500 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id l.cca.5d499b84 (14457) for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:30:47 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:26:10 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: F4DTL@aol.com X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 QRSS10 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_cca.5d499b84.38372002_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --part1_cca.5d499b84.38372002_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1258669569" -------------------------------1258669569 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Hello Jay,nice signal here. =20 =20 F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC756 Pro Ant: 10m tuned MF vertical Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 19/11/2009 13:44:55 Paris, Madrid, =20 jrusgrove@comcast.net a =E9crit : T/A enthusiasts Thanks to Rik, Andrey, Pat, Ralph (and others for trying) from the Tuesda= y=20 night QRSS3 session. Very=20 surprised to see the signal received in Russia! Tonight WE2XGR/2 will transmit in QRSS10 mode from ~ 2130 to ~ 2300Z and= =20 QRSS3 from ~2300 to ~ 0030Z=20 on 506.5 kHz. The QRSS10 transmission (letters XGR) will take about 4-1/2 minutes which= =20 may be longer than the=20 T/A QSB cycle to western EU. It will be interesting to see if QRSS10 migh= t=20 be too slow for T/A work.=20 As usual, any and all reports are appreciated. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 -------------------------------1258669569 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= FONT id=3Drole_document color=3D#000000 size=3D2 face=3DArial>
Hello Jay,nice signal here.
 
F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP

RX : Icom IC756 Pro
Ant: 10m tuned MF=20 vertical

 
Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 19/11/2009 13:44:55 Paris, Madrid,=20 jrusgrove@comcast.net a =E9crit :
T= /A=20 enthusiasts

Thanks to Rik, Andrey, Pat, Ralph (and others for try= ing)=20 from the Tuesday night QRSS3 session. Very
surprised to see the sign= al=20 received in Russia!

Tonight WE2XGR/2 will transmit in QRSS10 mode= from=20 ~ 2130 to ~ 2300Z and QRSS3 from ~2300 to ~ 0030Z
on 506.5 kHz.
<= BR>The=20 QRSS10 transmission (letters XGR) will take about 4-1/2 minutes which ma= y be=20 longer than the
T/A QSB cycle to western EU. It will be interesting= to see=20 if QRSS10 might be too slow for T/A work.
As usual, any and all repo= rts=20 are appreciated.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS =20 WE2XGR/2
 
 
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(CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091115205813572.8B9FD1C00081@mwinf3519.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <7C53F0821F4E4DAE965F1AFE9590A5AE@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <1043CB7D895D4161B1C87CDD140332A2@AGB> <0CADF4DD71FD43A2A8384463754F6344@AGB> <4B005411.4010506@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <1C14999758D149228277CBBC2446F1D7@AGB> <4B006812.7010101@sighthound.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4B006812.7010101@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:58:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Running mW wspr Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Yes just seeing decodes from Gary at the moment ,,I will qro 100mW .. thats a west coast qro as opposed to a east coast one ..... G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "John P-G" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 8:44 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Running mW wspr > > G > > 10dB might be a bit too much, your previous decodes were around -25/-28dB > here. Perhaps at some peaks of QSB, later in the night we might still > strike lucky. > > Am considering knocking up a transverter for 500kHz and replacing the MF > ATU out at the feedpoint (currently have an HF auto-atu there) to allow me > to radiate some signals on 500 again. > > Cheers, > > John > > > Graham wrote: >> 2334 45 mW drive to the antenna .. slight problem zeroing the meter >> as there is 60 uW of energy coming back in from the atu .... >> so thats about -10 dB down on the previous level >> >> G .. >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "John P-G" >> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 7:18 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: LF: Running mW wspr >> >>> >>> >>> >>> Graham wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Crazy system ..... spot just in from John ! >>> >>> >>> I thought your mW signal was meant to be a challenge, but of course >>> Roger's already discovered that WSPR will decode signals that you can't >>> hear, and are often so weak on a waterfall that QRSS3 would be a >>> struggle (despite what someone here repeatedly fails to comprehend) >>> >>> Can you go any lower? >>> >>> John >>> GM4SLV >>> >>> >> >> >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df12.mx.aol.com (rly-df12.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.25]) by air-df04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF043-5974b007c016f; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:09:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF126-5974b007c016f; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:09:07 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9nGg-00029N-MJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:08:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9nGg-00029D-9X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:08:22 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9nGe-0001pc-Ni for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:08:22 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.6] (opc1.twatt.home [192.168.1.6]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F223B512 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:08:19 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4B007BD3.8000801@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:08:19 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <269027.53851.qm@web28105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <269027.53851.qm@web28105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: G7NKS - Double Side Band: wspr? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I refer the honourable gentleman to the report I made some time ago.... 11/11/09: ================================================================= Jim. LF It looks like G7NKS has a 50/100Hz problem on the audio - both in TX and RX directions - there are up to 3 decodes by Jim of a single station (eg G3YXM), spaced by 50 & 100Hz and I see also that M0BMU is also reporting multiple decodes of G7NKS with the same 50/100Hz spacing. ================================================================ Jim has been looking for a source of 50Hz infecting his gear - looks like he hasn't found it yet :-) Needless to say, at this range, I only see the main signal... Cheers, John GM4SLV M0FMT wrote: > Hi Jim and LF group > > Please observe the reports I am getting from Jim G7NKS WSPR > transmissions :- > > First a weak one and then a strong one then a weak one (see below) > does it mean there's a sprog / modulation on Jim's transmission off > set by approximately +/-50c/s? From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de08.mx.aol.com (rly-de08.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.144]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDE054-4f44b12894a1bf; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 09:46:49 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE083-4f44b12894a1bf; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 09:46:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEl1e-0001Dt-6m for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:45:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEl1d-0001Dk-Q0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:45:21 +0000 Received: from mbox2.netikka.net ([213.250.81.203]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEl1d-0002U3-3v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:45:21 +0000 Received: from tupu.netikka.net (tupu [172.16.83.90]) by mbox2-feedback.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F770408042 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:45:15 +0200 (EET) Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by tupu.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BE8D4B0058 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:45:15 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 057D6495B8F for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:45:15 +0200 (EET) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:45:15 +0200 Message-ID: <1259505915.4b1288fb018a7@imp.netikka.net> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:45:15 +0200 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <2746F3E144D3480AB85CD466920B1313@lindavideo> <003001ca70e7$24aaf3a0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <003c01ca70eb$0aa52120$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <4B126AF9.3050300@ntlworld.com> <005001ca70f9$f63904e0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> In-Reply-To: <005001ca70f9$f63904e0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv diode Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) BY255 should be a suitable building block rated 1300V PIV 3A. Use equalizing resistors in parallell with each diode, typical values used= are 470...820kohm. Only controlled avalanche diodes can be series connected sa= fely without a reverse voltage equalizing network. Make sure you implement a healthy safety marigin, ie. don't use just as ma= ny diodes needed to acheive the needed voltage rating. Using 3 amp diodes whe= n 1 amp is called for is no luxury either. You don't want to hear the sound of= an angry rattlesnake from your thunderbox... this sound is often followed by popping and oozing electrolytic capacitors. Good luck and please don't get zapped Paul-Henrik Quoting mal hamilton : > Yes series for more V parallel for more I(amps) and preferable some R= and C > across each except they are really identical. > mal/g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: David Towers > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 12:37 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv diode > > > Hi Mal > surely "in series" to give a 4 KV diode at 1amp ? > dave G8SZX > > > > mal hamilton wrote: > Ken > On the serious side, use 6 x 1Kvolt @ 1A in parallel if u are stuck. > Don't get zapped > 73 mal/g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: mal hamilton > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:28 AM > Subject: LF: Re: 4kv diode > > > Electric Chair Co > Zapenda Cul de sac > Hellda State > Zip73 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ken > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:04 AM > Subject: LF: 4kv diode > > > Hello All. > I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or equivalent diode, BY4 4kv @= 1A, > BY6 6kv @ 1A, I have searched the web and looked in Farnell, any ideas > please. > > 73. > Ken > > M0KHW > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da08.mx.aol.com (rly-da08.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.82]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDA072-a874b12739235e; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:14:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA087-a874b12739235e; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:13:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEja9-0000r3-Bc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:12:53 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEja8-0000qu-Qd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:12:52 +0000 Received: from mail-px0-f174.google.com ([209.85.216.174]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEja7-0002Af-T5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:12:52 +0000 Received: by pxi4 with SMTP id 4so1781956pxi.4 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 05:12:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=YKRgq10tp0I4Rqm8nbw823ORFf8N3TnGPtmDRaHCfDM=; b=Ry0WMGcvrPMSdofliR2W98saRqcHhWf6+ttON0+AQmy66zsbKz4NynKtCGOGElEUo5 UQSWcFQP1HImCjj3yKTbIsvd7y3Y9DNYqM6rulKEItWTO+gPGTL2A3GG3gBJZmLRVHPh jmCXvONZScSp62R7rol53NJqkFxEgyieEBkmU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=PCsfLUn2FpxGtWaE6FhI5SgVsupXCKDt0H92q1T4YFRrr4ZIeDfblBuASH0RzMUEXM 7Fclfeo3xIvN57BEIgib0+/hPZaBaBjmTmPiDpQbXhDnIxhPtDyIqMNAgpIhoxZO4N2B ead5eMIViv9mvbPbSvbij8+gVvEFGeP81pGuU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.35.12 with SMTP id n12mr190130rvj.237.1259500363653; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 05:12:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <003c01ca70eb$0aa52120$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> References: <2746F3E144D3480AB85CD466920B1313@lindavideo> <003001ca70e7$24aaf3a0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <003c01ca70eb$0aa52120$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:12:43 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 33e70c80a46d3148 Message-ID: <1f0624b90911290512g7dcaf515ma6accacbcef77518@mail.gmail.com> From: Gary - G4WGT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv diode Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd1530ac5249e047982471a X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m232.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0cd1530ac5249e047982471a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Mal, Surely putting them in parallel will not increase the working voltage? Only the working current. Gary - G4WGT. 2009/11/29 mal hamilton > Ken > On the serious side, use 6 x 1Kvolt @ 1A in parallel if u are stuck. > Don't get zapped > 73 mal/g3kev > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* mal hamilton > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Sent:* Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:28 AM > *Subject:* LF: Re: 4kv diode > > Electric Chair Co > Zapenda Cul de sac > Hellda State > Zip73 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Ken > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Sent:* Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:04 AM > *Subject:* LF: 4kv diode > > Hello All. > I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or equivalent diode, BY4 4kv @ 1A, BY6 6kv > @ 1A, I have searched the web and looked in Farnell, any ideas please. > > 73. > Ken > > M0KHW > > --000e0cd1530ac5249e047982471a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mal,

Surely putting them in parallel will not increase= the working voltage?
Only the working current.

Gary - G4WGT.

2009/11/29 mal ha= milton <g3ke= vmal@talktalk.net>
Ken
On the serious side, use 6 x 1Kvolt= @ 1A in=20 parallel if u are stuck.
Don't get zapped
73 mal/g3kev
=A0
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mal=20 hamilton
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11= :28=20 AM
Subject: LF: Re: 4kv diode

Electric Chair Co
Zapenda Cul de sac
Hellda State
Zip73
=A0
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ken
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009= 11:04=20 AM
Subject: LF: 4kv diode

Hello All.
I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or= equivalent=20 diode, BY4=A0=A0 4kv @ 1A, BY6=A0 6kv @ 1A, I have searched the web=20 and looked in Farnell, any ideas please.
=A0
73.
Ken
=A0
M0KHW=A0=A0=A0

--000e0cd1530ac5249e047982471a-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me10.mx.aol.com (rly-me10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.44]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME023-9e34b0079fa176; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:00:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME107-9e34b0079fa176; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:00:28 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9n7e-0001zJ-3P for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:59:02 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9n7d-0001zA-5r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:59:01 +0000 Received: from web28105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.125]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9n7c-0001lU-TG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:59:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 53866 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Nov 2009 21:58:55 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1258322335; bh=m1XaNqM7JVbzZCL0gPs+t8vKVgn58vT2S2CFzOCvSXw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zOEgAgPWXkTHiln6Y7WlKsWdGsnAfI19O0Zlpq2x8iw/GRNpTxCyfe1psQd0qC2hEIvoYPMlk+rC5JgeAZwu97r1DS6kwT/aFL879tHlAannllPgfBgX1P59R+71s24bxzL8LOga8IwaGq9gBxgnsN0vIHJCHpR4Q6TM9toESgY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=nEhJt6GGzuSw0oMRaRbEHvpJfdNj5gLHvhTrx1Cdb2I4DGHdkVgCXwyAoHjRxaEK9B8HUr4Qs+qRrgI6MZVyoCpA+u5uQ7D1O/BXmoKHmCGB/6nxt8jYkGKAI6e656je9qaFN0s6Tr5daHzo7LdZhq6P4jMETSJHQkvksJCTOrQ=; Message-ID: <269027.53851.qm@web28105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ASeB8k8VM1leYiWyM_b1m8lBMNBWqXbqD_nWR9tVMjRNSytxZObYv02A9fC7HQJUnyunh5Z26RBk9YvTBxr7QVUjAk7FTles.Z46T9MVWRhnQkiFusVDh1az37.vE1.uo74_dQaxqzFZ0yrGSS3nSldHixQQL9RfiCMX5O.NNGrVRJ86d5lmhXqC5c7cyhzikoa3t4UpXMcrd3UHNCVmWqFvfc2UcTHLArwRqiEO4D0v_DgFeBzPuZwKzBMhOABUXTqPJFqxkYFnSj0XwxlYirAA6MF_ngG83v9.Bubecg-- Received: from [86.137.246.146] by web28105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:58:54 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:58:54 -0800 (PST) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <7C53F0821F4E4DAE965F1AFE9590A5AE@AGB> MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: G7NKS - Double Side Band: wspr? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-44528947-1258322334=:53851" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_90_100,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m243.2 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-44528947-1258322334=:53851 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jim and LF group =A0 Please observe the reports I am getting from Jim G7NKS WSPR transmissions= :-=20 =A0 First a weak one and then a strong one then a weak one (see below)=A0does= it mean there's a sprog / modulation on Jim's transmission off set by app= roximately +/-50c/s? I will try to get a time domain display of it when I= have time, it may provide a clue. Is it my RX? =A0 2009-11-15 21:26=A0 =A0G7NKS=A0 =A00.503904=A0 =A0-26=A0 =A0-1=A0 =A0IO92ub=A0 =A00.02=A0 =A0M0FMT=A0 =A0IO91ux=A0 =A09=A0 =A0180=A0 2009-11-15 21:26=A0 =A0G7NKS=A0 =A00.503853=A0 =A0+2=A0 =A0-1=A0 =A0IO92ub=A0 =A00.02=A0 =A0M0FMT=A0 =A0IO91ux=A0 =A09=A0 =A0180=A0 2009-11-15 21:26=A0 =A0G7NKS=A0 =A0=A0 0.503803=A0 -25=A0 =A0-1=A0 =A0IO92ub=A0 =A0 =A00.02=A0 =A0M0FMT=A0 =A0 IO91ux=A0 =A0=A0 =A09=A0 =A0180=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Don't think=A0it's my old HB=A0drifty DC RX that accounts for it because= all other reports are OK as far as I have seen to date but am open to com= ment. =A0 =A0 73 petefmt =20 --0-44528947-1258322334=:53851 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Jim and LF group
 
Please observe the reports I am getting from Jim G7NKS WSPR transmiss= ions :-
 
First a weak one and then a strong one then a weak one (see below)&nb= sp;does it mean there's a sprog / modulation on Jim's transmission off set= by approximately +/-50c/s? I will try to get a time domain display of it= when I have time, it may provide a clue. Is it my RX?
 
2009-11-15 21:26&nbs= p;  G7NKS   0.503904 =  -26 =  -1 <= /o:p>  IO92ub   0.02   M0FMT   IO91ux   9   180 =
2009-11-15 21:26&nbs= p;  G7NKS   0.503853 =  +2 <= /o:p>  -1 <= /o:p>  IO92ub   0.02   M0FMT   IO91ux   9   180 =
2009-11-15 21:26&nbs= p;  G7NKS     0.503803  -25 =  -1 <= /o:p>  IO92ub     0.02   M0FMT    IO91ux      9   180 =
 
 
 
 
 
Don't think it's my old HB drifty DC RX that accounts for= it because all other reports are OK as far as I have seen to date but am= open to comment.
 
  73 petefmt

=20 --0-44528947-1258322334=:53851-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (rly-dg10.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.94]) by air-dg08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG082-5f64afc7db34c; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:27:26 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG101-5f64afc7db34c; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:27:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8hB1-0007jI-O7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:25:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8hB1-0007j9-DI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:25:59 +0000 Received: from mta41.charter.net ([216.33.127.83]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8hB0-0000ew-Hp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:25:59 +0000 Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta41.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.02.04 201-2219-117-106-20090629) with ESMTP id <20091112212551.VFDT23932.mta41.charter.net@imp09>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:25:51 -0500 Received: from mp12 ([209.225.8.242]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id 4MRl1d0025DKPS905MRnV1; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:25:47 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=AHNBa_E9iH67H0Hg8FYA:9 a=2fd92C4CIXKoZfrZd69khQcAp5YA:4 Message-ID: <20091112162547.07WZ7.8495963.root@mp12> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:25:47 -0800 From: To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: lowfer@mailman.qth.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: from 64.206.3.50 by ssomail.charter.net; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:25:41 -0500 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: WD2XES WOLF 137.441 Thurs Nite Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) WD2XES will be running WOLF(10) on 137.441 kHz tonight from 0H UTC. Reports are welcome. John, W1TAG/WD2XES From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df04.mx.aol.com (rly-df04.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.17]) by air-df02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF021-5474b0c3b9c55; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:01:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF046-5474b0c3b9c55; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:01:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ND1Yj-00071P-P0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:00:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ND1Yj-00071G-Ar for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:00:21 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f215.google.com ([209.85.220.215]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ND1Yi-0003e2-Bu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:00:21 +0000 Received: by fxm7 with SMTP id 7so7271196fxm.29 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:00:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=tWqspFGkeR/yV2BWZM2P+bb44fCCDcl7KJ59gFAaHvE=; b=SXeHtoC2gnNoRZg8gXGrlTj+ciwvcOZ/DTm5CBgVohPBjdjYsyWHv4drDFqptl0pqn 7JXuRJxIU7NCoJyTecq2IfVXIplhh97dE6CIGkns9HqzdcWJN7pWqfYJFrQ0I5C1zZa1 9SEF9IUtXSW1BER6f226qOK87+wtfjsQq30w8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MIf7Hx5upd54AYUcFnhiSXZnMtENuiwxLOPno59T0GZELA+mUXnj+U8exb0aeyrXe4 aSmgxe40jzqVCW79AuoNSr6M7KhexyNyM5LG+tRN0ngk5TtKn0ZeXVIcTYJzVm93Q5CB HgG/FnsOzdqspL5/Rp0GBMoKOd0SpDki9JgMg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.139.161 with SMTP id t33mr750067hbt.115.1259092814158; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:00:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9afca2640911241140j230515e9kcbcaffd3911ccb82@mail.gmail.com> References: <9afca2640911241140j230515e9kcbcaffd3911ccb82@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:00:14 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: IRF510 500kHz PA stability issues - advice please Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d244.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) If you've studied the drain waveform when operating inrto a correct load, and assuming its all within design guidelines, then the trouble is because of nasty impedances presented by the antenna during the tuning process. What sort of antenna matching are you using? The often suggested idea of an an adjustable tap onto the loading coil can lead to damage as, when the antenna is detuned, the small number of turns of the link, with an untuned coil, appear not far different from a short circuit. A Class E PA, when presented with a slightly inductive short circuit can get a bit stressed. On my antenna over the years on 73, 137 now 500kHz the system has always been fed in series, using a ferrite tapped transformer to match load impedance. I kept well away from tapped or link windings as they are not easy to calculate or predict reliably. WIth a series fed system, a detuned antenna results in a high impedance. This may not always good news either to some class-E designs, but all my LF/MF PAs are completely open-circuit-proof voltage fed designs. The only true class-E one here was for 1.8MHz, and can be seen at http://www.g4jnt.com/TopbandPA.pdf . This was completely imune to open and short circuits and seemed very robust; but I did use the meatier and more robust higher voltage IRF540. Doesn't the IRF510 only have a 100V rating? Andy www.g4jnt.com This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health and safety police 2009/11/24 Roger Lapthorn : > I've been using a single IRF510 FET PA stage on 500kHz and it produces > around 6-7W of RF. But, when adjusting my antenna I've managed to damage > several devices now.=A0 I think the stage is running somewhere towards= class-E > looking at the PA drain waveform on the scope and I believe either the= stage > is going unstable or it is running in a condition in which too much curr= ent > (and heat) is taken and the device fails.500kHz teh ant > > Are there any simple "rules of thumb" or design/biasing/decoupling > guidelines to ensure that my devices don't destroy themselves with a les= s > than perfect load? > > Any simple advice would be appreciated. > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > > > > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc01.mx.aol.com (rly-mc01.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.85]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC022-d534b018cf93a9; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:33:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC013-d534b018cf93a9; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:33:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA5QT-0006pc-8s for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:31:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA5QS-0006pT-To for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:31:40 +0000 Received: from out1.ip09ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.245]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA5QQ-0001lF-6X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:31:40 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEACIbAUtcHc8z/2dsb2JhbADXL4Q8BIFt X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,752,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="221773696" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.29.207.51]) by out1.ip09ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 16 Nov 2009 17:31:26 +0000 Message-ID: <008401ca66e2$a109da60$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <004a01ca66be$7a813d30$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <001e01ca66c7$10041af0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:52:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500 daytime Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Good copy ur grabber at 1640 utc daylight here qsx 7033 for qso 73 tnx mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 2:14 PM Subject: LF: Re: 500 daytime > Hello Mal, > I am ready to receive here your qrss3. Though here evening... > > 73 Andrey > > > > Now active on 500 for daytime prop ck > g3kev > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md09.mx.aol.com (rly-md09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.147]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD011-9224b066182245; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:29:50 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD092-9224b066182245; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:29:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBPn2-00052S-2o for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:28:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBPn1-00052J-8l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:28:27 +0000 Received: from mail12.ssmb.com ([199.67.179.106] helo=mail.citigroup.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBPn0-00061F-2o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:28:27 +0000 Received: from imbhub-mw03.nam.nsroot.net ([159.17.94.190]) by imbaspam-ny06.iplex.ssmb.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_EXT/ev: 24737 $) with ESMTP id nAK8wBqg028976 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:58:14 GMT Received: from exlniht02.eur.nsroot.net (exlniht02.eur.nsroot.net [169.186.207.99]) by imbhub-mw03.nam.nsroot.net (Switch-3.4.0/Switch-3.4.0) with ESMTP id nAK8w96W014562 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:58:10 GMT Received: from exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net ([169.186.207.105]) by exlniht02.eur.nsroot.net ([169.186.207.99]) with mapi; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:57:57 +0000 From: "Scholz, Marco " To: "'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'" Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:57:56 +0000 Thread-Topic: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 QRSS10 Thread-Index: AcppvpswhUH1GgNJSKGrjjbIFhZV8wAAB5Ng Message-ID: <254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C77FA788@exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net> References: <000501ca67ba$e4817db0$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <002e01ca682b$c42ac460$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <00b301ca6915$df7b7440$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <20091120083258.C0711F3863@smtps02.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20091120083258.C0711F3863@smtps02.kuleuven.be> Accept-Language: en-US, en-GB Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US, en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 172.27.136.25 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: RE: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 QRSS10 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_002_254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C77FA788exlnmb06eurns_" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --_002_254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C77FA788exlnmb06eurns_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Jay, 1st T/A receiption on 500KHz for me :-) I copied your QRSS10 signal and was able to identify a lot of characters. Vy73 Marco DD7PC, JN49ax Rx: Pr=E4citronic MV62 and Minwhip Ant. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org] On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe Sent: 20 November 2009 09:33 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 QRSS10 Jay, good copy with the usual QSB. 73, Rik At 13:43 19/11/2009, you wrote: >T/A enthusiasts > >Thanks to Rik, Andrey, Pat, Ralph (and others for trying) from the >Tuesday night QRSS3 session. Very surprised to see the signal received >in Russia! > >Tonight WE2XGR/2 will transmit in QRSS10 mode from ~ 2130 to ~ 2300Z >and QRSS3 from ~2300 to ~ 0030Z on 506.5 kHz. > >The QRSS10 transmission (letters XGR) will take about 4-1/2 minutes >which may be longer than the T/A QSB cycle to western EU. It will be >interesting to see if QRSS10 might be too slow for T/A work. >As usual, any and all reports are appreciated. > >Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Andrey rn3agc" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 3:33 AM >Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 > > > > Hello Jay, Rik, LF, > > Captures at 00.32 and 01.42. > > Rik, here frequency 506501. > > > > 73 > > Andrey / KO85sv > > > > > >> T/A enthusiasts > >> > >> WE2XGR/2 will beacon in QRSS3 mode tonight on 506.5 kHz from ~ 2130 > >> to ~ 0030 Z. 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(rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC052-b364affd12d2bd; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:00:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC082-b364affd12d2bd; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:00:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9bt8-0005Ip-SF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:59:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9bt8-0005Ig-AT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:59:18 +0000 Received: from mailout1.go2.pl ([193.17.41.11]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9bt7-00006i-5u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:59:18 +0000 Received: from mailout1.go2.pl (unknown [10.0.0.104]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94BA630008 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:59:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from unknown (unknown [10.0.0.74]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:59:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from dns-failure [188.124.178.58] by poczta.o2.pl with ESMTP id hzdQrI; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:59:16 +0100 Message-ID: <00a401ca65da$4a8904d0$3ab27cbc@niurhaxf0xcqlj> From: "Marcin" To: References: <1484134848@web.de> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:59:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-O2-Trust: 2, 62 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: SP2KDS - Not any idea what the additional signs mean ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Horst, LF This is a traditional CW ID (15wpm) in introduction and end transmisi= on. Tekst: SP2KDS. Local hams plised this ID. Station SP2KDS will open today in the evening and at night:, on 137,70= 0 and 137,7785kHz. -- Vy 73! Marcin SQ2BXI Yesterday I sent some captures which show SP2KDS in QRSS3 with a good signal - but some addional signs tht I can not interprete. Anyone an idea? Horst _____________________________________________________________ DSL-Preisknaller: DSL-Komplettpakete von WEB.DE schon f=FCr 16,99 Euro/mtl.!* Hier klicken: http://produkte.web.de/go/02/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (rly-mf05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.175]) by air-mf07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF074-95d4b091a9b53; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:04:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF053-95d4b091a9b53; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:03:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCADV-0001qN-6M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:02:53 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCADU-0001qE-Q1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:02:52 +0000 Received: from out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.242]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCADU-0003Pk-87 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:02:52 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtsEALqoCEtcGukH/2dsb2JhbACCIyyLOQbEOIItgg8E X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,266,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="256364841" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.26.233.7]) by out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 22 Nov 2009 11:02:46 +0000 Message-ID: <005401ca6b63$518d75c0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <2B071368F251411E8EDB757230231590@IBM7FFA209F07C> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:02:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Mal - Activity/ERP? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0051_01CA6B63.5139FE90" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01CA6B63.5139FE90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chris Standard procedure, well documented and discussed on here many times.= =20 mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Chris=20 To: RSGB LF Group=20 Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 10:48 AM Subject: LF: Mal - Activity/ERP? Hi Mal, I agree with your comments about WSPR QSOs. Also pleased to see the renewed interest/increase in activity on 136= /7kHz. Earlier you said you had 1W ERP on 136, I am interested to know how= you measured/calculated that? Vy 73, Chris, G4AYT. ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01CA6B63.5139FE90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Chris
Standard procedure, well documented= and discussed=20 on here many times.
mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Chris
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 20= 09 10:48=20 AM
Subject: LF: Mal - Activity/E= RP?

Hi Mal,
I agree with your comments about WS= PR=20 QSOs.
Also pleased to see the renewed int= erest/increase=20 in activity on 136/7kHz.
Earlier you said you had 1W ERP on= 136, I am=20 interested to know how you measured/calculated that?
Vy 73,
Chris,=20 G4AYT.
------=_NextPart_000_0051_01CA6B63.5139FE90-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de04.mx.aol.com (rly-de04.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.140]) by air-de07.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDE073-4cc4b126b4512; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 07:38:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE043-4cc4b126b4512; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 07:38:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEj1m-0000iZ-A6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:37:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEj1l-0000iQ-Iy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:37:21 +0000 Received: from mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.47]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEj1k-0002GR-PS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:37:21 +0000 Received: from aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091129123715.HJZM17029.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:37:15 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [86.9.169.68]) by aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20091129123715.MCLL13254.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:37:15 +0000 Message-ID: <4B126AF9.3050300@ntlworld.com> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:37:13 +0000 From: David Towers User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <2746F3E144D3480AB85CD466920B1313@lindavideo> <003001ca70e7$24aaf3a0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <003c01ca70eb$0aa52120$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> In-Reply-To: <003c01ca70eb$0aa52120$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=W3tOLUehizD4qj6VhtReFuw5MKb8d+XqjIxlDsIazEA= c=1 sm=0 a=nN7BH9HXAAAA:8 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=HmCT5iXHAAAA:8 a=b7X6aEmgQGWhBsG0ekgA:9 a=Su3VY62E4wyzEn36j3QFDl5OD8QA:4 a=muIvw5a9-cgA:10 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=Nr7Pmq0tdocA:10 a=_xp6Eiw-vr000JQb6EoA:9 a=14jBCxEgX2Ew3qb3R8EA:7 a=eoJHVIeZTJmDDPeSiGHLdvwjzB8A:4 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv diode Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000007000008020509050207" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------000007000008020509050207 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Mal surely "in series" to give a 4 KV diode at 1amp ? dave G8SZX mal hamilton wrote: > Ken > On the serious side, use 6 x 1Kvolt @ 1A in parallel if u are stuck. > Don't get zapped > 73 mal/g3kev > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* mal hamilton > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > *Sent:* Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:28 AM > *Subject:* LF: Re: 4kv diode > > Electric Chair Co > Zapenda Cul de sac > Hellda State > Zip73 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Ken > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > *Sent:* Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:04 AM > *Subject:* LF: 4kv diode > > Hello All. > I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or equivalent diode, BY4 4kv @ > 1A, BY6 6kv @ 1A, I have searched the web and looked in > Farnell, any ideas please. > > 73. > Ken > > M0KHW > --------------000007000008020509050207 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Mal
surely "in series" to give a 4 KV diode at 1amp ?
dave G8SZX



mal hamilton wrote:
Ken
On the serious side, use 6 x 1Kvolt @ 1A in parallel if u are stuck.
Don't get zapped
73 mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:28 AM
Subject: LF: Re: 4kv diode

Electric Chair Co
Zapenda Cul de sac
Hellda State
Zip73
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Ken
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:04 AM
Subject: LF: 4kv diode

Hello All.
I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or equivalent diode, BY4   4kv @ 1A, BY6  6kv @ 1A, I have searched the web and looked in Farnell, any ideas please.
 
73.
Ken
 
M0KHW   

--------------000007000008020509050207-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me07.mx.aol.com (rly-me07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.41]) by air-me09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME093-9c74afd7f74269; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:47:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME073-9c74afd7f74269; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:47:01 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8yLV-0003Iy-If for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:45:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8yLV-0003Ip-0T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:45:57 +0000 Received: from mail-gx0-f221.google.com ([209.85.217.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8yLU-0007NV-B9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:45:56 +0000 Received: by gxk21 with SMTP id 21so3401201gxk.10 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:45:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wTAc9tfH8jpRoMq6LDzEPmRLbJ+jUuSZokrbuwcMd1U=; b=t5gGoS18Zs80rAJNt347Zoavf0BCpF/VgUWnXqKZwfjINRuEdjRugVoapaKEi9tzQm rgfq9AC1AJOCI9JMML9zme3CNLBZQ4XfPHxXVt64BAyoAdgNYxzR8RVkWiSUrsNPOYww Nt67+VmnXJtkCWmF2wqkz5vAk3tXfs4eRhsXQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BgiNGJGK1C79BLs3n9D7BC56nyswIgxLscApEymQfXlHsYwuU85Rqj8i+2KcM7YJuI CnJ+eBtPo51q67S9Y+SYWFHza9xqRU2YW3rFAmzZmllKz21qzxShNBtzc0DppnyCSTIV 6+aeiLQet5dxDQjFpl7lv1cBoCZdzfcpmArlw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.5.12 with SMTP id 12mr8159932ybe.141.1258127146286; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:45:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:45:44 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70911130745v28eb2295y41cf2c9591cd044e@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Last chance saloon 500 from Alaska Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m208.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Laurence, When will you have TX capability from Alaska!? --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Laurence BY3A-KL1X China wrote: > Im leaving for China in the morning to go back to work but will be liste= ning > on CW/QRSS on 500 and 138 over the next hour or so if anyone wants to ha= ve a > go from Eu on the dawn/dusk Alaska=A0path. > > The receiver will hopefully stay on here in Alaska and Ill be able to > "listen" remotely. > > Over the Pole didnt sound too bright as DCF39 wasnt that strong here but > things do change pretty quickly at times. As=A0 ever=A0 Im still on Rx= only > until I get more time. > > Ill be back here for Christmas... > > Laurence WE2 XPQ Part 5 Experimental > KL1X Wasilla Palmer Alaska BP51 IP > Will be KL1X/BY3A Tianjin China > > ________________________________ > Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it= now. --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (rly-mf03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.173]) by air-mf07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF071-9514b032f913e; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:19:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF037-9514b032f913e; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:19:47 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAXJn-0007Qc-H1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:18:39 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAXJn-0007QT-1b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:18:39 +0000 Received: from web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com ([69.147.97.73]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAXJm-00032n-1U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:18:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 6393 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Nov 2009 23:18:31 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1258499911; bh=CUm7kwRwgSbvOjNYeP1oBqXhUjq2INoXTdB6FxN484I=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wrM3Xn2b/S2lk1u4euxlL3IX2tEgLm6yEUI+ITN4/3hE7gmirQNjCzMNUL/3ll6443RXPbJV/QAyt/vvg8/JwaLOhFTQSXQGyzc9wcOmbWhP9ISaAeU+ISCcxZ47k6q4z7OPZz7MxEjXRpcHAZ2l7eV7KIceRDFEVP5cZlSDWY4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=AQuGuhcEoeyXZKBIHljoFm/0WJSHZWTInRLSgad2LL8ju8oA2Q/4AcqlFhAJPwNUXhcpLKpGJLh8DTFjFWjhiIMaNOmMtTo2vuDEaoJHpOKLXaYDodgJP8ge50NZf3qobPOaWcZY9fD0rDm1N9lIArEEDBq3dYWGmf0l/6oCpfM=; Message-ID: <64522.5406.qm@web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: o_ecFYMVM1n8OwWRVl.Fq5zeDrG10ZER0Pj9hjtX08MzTtytC0T0TRv94AtRJy07tMor264nzCYQQK..hJtrC6KKgAzzF3CKWRrIVnVAqYSsufa6VgI._FfPV5wVukXF.Wkg1N5ZBtLGDQI370yOqWzxSokvQoJJzw8iMqIOmSFSI5jZx0ty_.tEnEHOfsgsB4pfKIBmyYy4xs01q0.A0Q5n03gMHpQyZyIuBCOunq2gsJuzikKXxAup7mqCOl.uwrvur8Y6FVpGJMur55iJsX9ihFxrqpd4Nkub_Zk_yVn4HtYSuNwXXnqwqoajsKVNLWbj3zK39L1xUVYw8679ztXe0TOrJPVSQXYEgvpeS1c- Received: from [97.89.42.135] by web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:18:30 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:18:30 -0800 (PST) From: Andy - KU4XR To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz conditions good Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d227.2 ; domain : yahoo.com DKIM : pass Hello all : Conditions Stateside are wonderful tonite. LW broadcasters being heard on every frequency, and using a 6 KHz A.M. filter. I am hoping to decode " HGB " time signal with Multi-PSK never have before, hope so tonite. Good DX everyone, 73 :::: Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN. LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 185.29866 KHz ( QRSS-60 ) Coordinates: N: 35* 43' 54" - W: 84* 3' 16" http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr --- On Tue, 11/17/09, Roelof Bakker wrote: > From: Roelof Bakker > Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz conditions good > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 5:47 PM > Hello Roger, > > Yes, they are! > Canadian NDB's were coming in as early as 18:40 UTC. > > I also received NAVTEX, Yokohama, Japan on 518 kHz for the > first time ever. > > 73, > Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB103-ada4b0a47202d0; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:26:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB078-ada4b0a47202d0; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:26:10 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCUE3-0008IX-IG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:24:47 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCUE3-0008IO-43 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:24:47 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCUE0-0000Ro-Qx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:24:47 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8678E4C81AC for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:24:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 521944C8037 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:24:36 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B0A46C5.20604@online.fr> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:24:37 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: T/A [137 kHz] good conditions ( re also ! ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF, Good conditions last night on 137 Khz ! "XKO" (WD2XKO) qrss60 "XGJ" (WD2XGJ) qrss60 "XES" (WD2XES) dfcw60 It is great pleasure of finding the actors of my beginnings LF! Miss Joe (NA) and Jay (XES) so that the table is complete! Thank you Sirs!!!!. 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj NB : For information, the captures are always filed here : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md04.mx.aol.com (rly-md04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.142]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMD032-8ff4b12bf6d10b; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:37:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD047-8ff4b12bf6d10b; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:37:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEodc-0002wp-GG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:36:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEodc-0002wf-3U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:36:48 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEoda-0003wu-LF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:36:47 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 29 Nov 2009 18:36:40 -0000 Received: from p5DD35E12.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO Clemens04) [93.211.94.18] by mail.gmx.net (mp071) with SMTP; 29 Nov 2009 19:36:40 +0100 X-Authenticated: #17214767 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18KEuwod3oK3jf5RvEXY7/MU+NkGJQtPGxAWEfkZC MQ1EYWfLYrNy8d Message-ID: <01ba01ca7122$e40b8f30$0201a8c0@Clemens04> From: "Clemens Paul" To: References: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AA6E@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:36:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.53 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: LF Propagation literature? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Stefan, below a copy of my posting on this list from 3.11.09 maybe it's helpful. ----------- it's the CCIR- RECOMMENDATION 368-7 . There are no free sources on the internet for these graphs at least I was not able to find any. Maybe DK8KW can help you, he has a graph for 150kHz on his HP http://www.qru.de/burg.html where you can also find his email address. --------------------------------------------------------------- 73 Clemens DL4RAJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Schäfer" To: Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 7:25 PM Subject: LF: LF Propagation literature? Hello Lowfers, Is there any good literature in the web (web-site or pdf or book) about the propagation on LF? Best would be, if it is created by a ham for the hams! 73, Stefan/DK7FC -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eingehende eMail ist virenfrei. Von AVG überprüft - www.avg.de Version: 9.0.709 / Virendatenbank: 270.14.87/2534 - Ausgabedatum: 11/29/09 08:49:00 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (rly-mf10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.180]) by air-mf05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF054-9894af4847620; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:18:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF107-9894af4847620; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:18:01 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6VEv-0006AF-HJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:16:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6VEv-0006A6-18 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:16:57 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6VDn-0000Ag-Jv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:15:48 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.4] (rx1.twatt.home [192.168.1.4]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F3FD3B5CC for ; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 20:16:52 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4AF48434.2030602@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:16:52 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <9afca2640911060845r17eb75daracad4f874c3a1c9c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9afca2640911060845r17eb75daracad4f874c3a1c9c@mail.gmail.com> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: G3XBM: 500kHz ERP increased by 6dB - WSPR reports please Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Roger Lapthorn wrote: > Today I modified my 500kHz antenna. Roger, I've started WSPR monitoring at 20:18UTC - same RX setup here as normal - let's see what transpires! John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (rly-dd10.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.157]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD052-ba54b09bb87130; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:30:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD107-ba54b09bb87130; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:30:33 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCKw1-00062j-CP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:29:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCKw1-00062a-27 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:29:33 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCKw0-0006Q3-BI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:29:33 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E444C80E5 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:29:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A786B4C8079 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:29:26 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B09BB46.5050404@online.fr> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:29:26 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: blacksheep X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: LF T/A [137kHz] WD2XKO now ! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Dex , Very good copy of your beacon now (21:00utc) . 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc05.mx.aol.com (rly-mc05.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.89]) by air-mc04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC041-d774b03be1ca2; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:28:01 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC057-d774b03be1ca2; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:27:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAgoQ-0000fm-RR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:26:54 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAgoQ-0000fc-2u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:26:54 +0000 Received: from web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.121]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAgoP-0007FZ-Tv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:26:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 7872 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Nov 2009 09:26:48 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1258536408; bh=HWKg9xiCliiKhZNLQHZxujG6GUAscgylFGgmt5alVTg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tMSkDIt3QccKKSxs0mOPb00n3/s6rMOwmnFOrwnVK60RaRPXLd7Beb4HEG+FqtqBdCE7pfukbcwosnn2aMEtZE86tyq9zy7wGraCnTi1lVC7H81NWWPDzYfovD8J9IKveNWrNicLiWWqcZ0VRcjLtiwIVS2+FP1fM5fc3qMyHp8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=STaf/c9UoEjqmno5Qc3VFSkNPLDcbHvic+PBR9Rulfdaz3vyIHdph1DnMEsrLCWZ8qiPJG9JFneLnZ1uFknZ0kUavB5/p5lU5J6GUsCdTbbUeGS9tXyvFZN4xkyKf5MmPYIt224u4oi8tOcQ34WbbGory/w87usM2bWeg+A0RpE=; Message-ID: <572081.7375.qm@web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: a7JMX5UVM1kVZiY1mXmoq._0tzhZ2IwuacTbDCG7.OKMkiYMbUJMX0hAW8M8o54yk4c5TH7ooSG9TUHFii4i54ams9lUMN6TdQu2e0XAVkdtfBGJBCLKTvmXZUYCodf3OEm3LSgqI6f0xqLK5UdyDpDjYEwtlzx4yVz64RGUCBB5Ae_La16HZTxP0hv4gTpO0KF0yWt6UIhthqNdZcXqoOLbaihk26yvhKHDZJK0isYqO4Qx.ti3kP5NfKkEyj9TRh0T_iqTitLrxmphGjzvV9PjCoXZnWqW_xpWIfdFiUXg4DkZNSsgSgQMHYPP6wxO3LdT1Fe_DzwBmDdvCf58gvUZDpiflGJD2w-- Received: from [86.140.72.194] by web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:26:48 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:26:48 +0000 (GMT) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1543110570-1258536408=:7375" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m262.1 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-1543110570-1258536408=:7375 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi LF =A0 I think the issue is intermodulation products caused by over driving the= the linear RF stages of the TX into distortion=A0because when Jim reduces= drive the sidebands petty well disappear at this range. These observation= is based upon test carried out yesterday. There is another issue Jim seem= s to have which is that his PA grossly over heats (I think I am right) whe= n he reduces drive and that shouldn't happen. For modulation to take place= the output=A0of the modulator has to be mixed (hetrodyned) with the RF si= gnal. In this case I am guessing that the carrier is modulated by noise (5= 0c/s say) in the non linear (over driven linear RF stages) in the TX drive= r or output. The fact the PA over heats on reduced drive suggests to me the bias on the= PA transistors is being altered by changes to the drive anther indication= that the TX output may not be entirely linear --- On Wed, 18/11/09, James Moritz wrote: From: James Moritz Subject: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 1:13 Dear Jim LF Group, Looking at the sidebands on the G7NKS WSPR signals, mains hum or other noi= se by itself is not a sufficient explanation of what is seen. Simply addin= g 50Hz, 150Hz, etc. noise into the PC audio channel, then feeding the resu= lt into an SSB TX would give unwanted CW at frequencies offset from the SS= B carrier frequency by +/-50Hz, 150Hz and so on, i.e. with the carrier "di= al frequency" at 502.4kHz, unmodulated carriers would appear at 502.45kHz,= 502.55kHz and so on, in addition to the WSPR signal at around 503.9kHz.= However, these would probably largely be removed by the SSB filter in the= rig. Instead, we see unwanted sidebands offset from the wanted WSPR signa= l frequency by +/- 50Hz, 150Hz, with identical modulation to the wanted si= gnal. This requires some sort of non-linear process to cause the intermodu= lation between the presumed mains noise and the WSPR signal somewhere in= the TX chain. One possibility is that intermodulation occurs in the PA. Jim's descriptio= n suggests that he is persuading the HF PA in the IC735 to produce output= at 500k. At this frequency, the PA linearity may well be poor due to the= impedance matching, coupling, decoupling and feedback components in the= PA being wrong for the frequency, and high flux densities occuring in fer= rite components due to the low operating frequency. But this wouldn't expl= ain why Jim also gets multiple received signals from a strong station with= a clean signal, which implies some identical noise source and distortion= in the receive path. It would also mean the mains noise getting through= the filtering in the rig somehow. A possibility that would explain the unwanted sidebands appearing on both= TX and RX signals is if one of the oscillators in the system has mains no= ise sidebands. The sound card clock seems unlikely, since this is just a= simple crystal oscillator. I see the IC735 has some sort of multi-loop PL= L synthesiser, which would certainly be prone to this type of spurious sig= nal, since any kind of mains noise getting in would modulate the VCO frequ= encies, and would probably be the same on transmit and receive. This could= be checked by receiving a clean carrier somewhere around 500kHz, and exam= ining the audio output using Spec Lab or Argo or similar to see if 50Hz an= d 150Hz sidebands are present on the received audio tone. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Cowburn" To: Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:26 PM Subject: LF: rule #2 - assumption is the brother of all foul ups > LF >=20 >=20 >=20 > Sidebands are back!=A0 I think its caused by my TX getting hot and bothe= red by > struggling at 500.=A0 From cold it txs 50 watts but this soon drops back= to > around 35, and the sidebands appear.=A0 My sigs are better so having the= txfr > outside the shack and at the antenna is a vast improvement, but I now ne= ed > to work on the cooling. =20 --0-1543110570-1258536408=:7375 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi LF
 
I think the issue is intermodulation products caused by over driving= the the linear RF stages of the TX into distortion because when Jim= reduces drive the sidebands petty well disappear at this range. These obs= ervation is based upon test carried out yesterday. There is another issue= Jim seems to have which is that his PA grossly over heats (I think I am= right) when he reduces drive and that shouldn't happen. For modulation to= take place the output of the modulator has to be mixed (hetrodyned)= with the RF signal. In this case I am guessing that the carrier is modula= ted by noise (50c/s say) in the non linear (over driven linear RF stages)= in the TX driver or output.
The fact the PA over heats on reduced drive suggests to me the bias= on the PA transistors is being altered by changes to the drive anther ind= ication that the TX output may not be entirely linear

--- On Wed= , 18/11/09, James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>= wrote:

From: James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworl= d.com>
Subject: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org
Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 1:13

Dear Jim LF Group,

Looking at the sidebands= on the G7NKS WSPR signals, mains hum or other noise by itself is not a su= fficient explanation of what is seen. Simply adding 50Hz, 150Hz, etc. nois= e into the PC audio channel, then feeding the result into an SSB TX would= give unwanted CW at frequencies offset from the SSB carrier frequency by= +/-50Hz, 150Hz and so on, i.e. with the carrier "dial frequency" at 502.4= kHz, unmodulated carriers would appear at 502.45kHz, 502.55kHz and so on,= in addition to the WSPR signal at around 503.9kHz. However, these would= probably largely be removed by the SSB filter in the rig. Instead, we see= unwanted sidebands offset from the wanted WSPR signal frequency by +/- 50= Hz, 150Hz, with identical modulation to the wanted signal. This requires= some sort of non-linear process to cause the intermodulation between the= presumed mains noise and the WSPR signal somewhere in the TX chain.
One possibility is that intermodulation occurs in the PA. Jim's description suggests that= he is persuading the HF PA in the IC735 to produce output at 500k. At thi= s frequency, the PA linearity may well be poor due to the impedance matchi= ng, coupling, decoupling and feedback components in the PA being wrong for= the frequency, and high flux densities occuring in ferrite components due= to the low operating frequency. But this wouldn't explain why Jim also ge= ts multiple received signals from a strong station with a clean signal, wh= ich implies some identical noise source and distortion in the receive path= . It would also mean the mains noise getting through the filtering in the= rig somehow.

A possibility that would explain the unwanted sideban= ds appearing on both TX and RX signals is if one of the oscillators in the= system has mains noise sidebands. The sound card clock seems unlikely, si= nce this is just a simple crystal oscillator. I see the IC735 has some sor= t of multi-loop PLL synthesiser, which would certainly be prone to this type= of spurious signal, since any kind of mains noise getting in would modula= te the VCO frequencies, and would probably be the same on transmit and rec= eive. This could be checked by receiving a clean carrier somewhere around= 500kHz, and examining the audio output using Spec Lab or Argo or similar= to see if 50Hz and 150Hz sidebands are present on the received audio tone= .

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU


----- Original Messa= ge ----- From: "James Cowburn" <james.cowburn@virgin.net>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Monday, Nov= ember 16, 2009 8:26 PM
Subject: LF: rule #2 - assumption is the brother= of all foul ups


> LF
>
>
>
> Sidebands are= back!  I think its caused by my TX getting hot and bothered by
&g= t; struggling at 500.  From cold it txs 50 watts but this soon drops= back to
> around 35, and the sidebands appear.  My sigs are be= tter so having the txfr
> outside the shack and at the antenna is a= vast improvement, but I now need
> to work on the cooling.

<= BR>

=20 --0-1543110570-1258536408=:7375-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc09.mx.aol.com (rly-mc09.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.93]) by air-mc01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC014-d934afda61b24d; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:32:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC093-d934afda61b24d; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:31:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N90v5-0004QT-8S for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:30:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N90v4-0004QK-Rq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:30:50 +0000 Received: from mk-outboundfilter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N90v4-0008Tu-AL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:30:50 +0000 X-Trace: 268652937/mk-outboundfilter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/PIPEX/$PIPEX-ACCEPTED/pipex-temporary-group/79.71.207.20/None/m0afj@dsl.pipex.com X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.71.207.20 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: m0afj@dsl.pipex.com X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkMBAKYx/UpPR88U/2dsb2JhbAAI1hyEPAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,738,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="268652937" X-IP-Direction: IN Received: from 79-71-207-20.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO [10.0.0.4]) ([79.71.207.20]) by smtp.pipex.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 13 Nov 2009 18:30:43 +0000 Message-ID: <4AFDA5D9.9010704@dsl.pipex.com> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:30:49 +0000 From: tim hague User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <00df01ca6488$e9244a80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <00df01ca6488$e9244a80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: PIRATES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) mal hamilton wrote: > Lots of pirates reported around the east african coast and Indian > ocean but now Radio pirates !!!! on 500. > How would one know a Pirate? their style of sending on cw or the way > they WSPR. > Beware of the WSPR merchants no ID just carriers switching on/off as > far as the casual radio amateur is concerned. Instead of a simple > approach worldwide to issue Radio Amateur licences for the > traditional CW mode on 500, appliance operator licences were issued > for Broadcast modes ie > CW beacons, Data beacons, and other transmissions, which must stop at > Country Borders and must not be reported by anyone hearing such > transmissions beyond these Borders. > In other words the whole 500 khz business is Chaotic, whereas the > other MF allocation 160 metres is orderly and sensibly regulated using > in the main CW and SSB. > It would appear the appropriate license authorities do not think the > Appliance Operator has much to contribute to the advancement or > research on 500. > The marine service has been using the band for the past 100 years and > has exhausted all possibilities and concluded it is of no further use, > with the advancement of Satellite communications technology. > 500 in EU seems to be a fun band for WSPR Beacons where no operator > participation is required just unattended machines belching out bits > of data and generating QRM to the few Radio amateurs trying to get by > on CW. > Let us have your opinion. > De G3KEV > > > > Call for the men in white coats :) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma03.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMA031-8d24b142f9b94; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:48:49 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA104-8d24b142f9b94; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:48:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NFD9S-000082-FV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:47:18 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NFD9S-00007t-3o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:47:18 +0000 Received: from mcgi69.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.205]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NFD9Q-0005J5-09 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:47:18 +0000 Received: from mcgi69.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi69.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1013E11578 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:47:10 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [91.77.91.6] by mcgi69.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:47:04 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:47:04 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <4B140806.10012.1E82610@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> Message-Id: <622008509.1259614024.60767016.44464@mcgi69.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: DX test 136.318kHz Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Mike! Started my grabber on for the night overview. qrss.nm.ru * Mike Dennison [Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:59:34 -0000]: > I will be transmitting "XDV" overnight (1800 - 0900 UTC) tonight > using QRSS60 on 136.3180kHz. DX reports are welcome. > > Mike. G3XDV > ========== > -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de07.mx.aol.com (rly-de07.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.143]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE054-4e94b07c7632e8; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:56:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE072-4e94b07c7632e8; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:56:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBnco-0004Bq-K9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:55:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBnco-0004Bh-85 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:55:30 +0000 Received: from smtp22.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.10]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBncn-0006n8-M3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:55:30 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2219.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id EC3377000086 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:55:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from F8BOJSQUSV2QH5 (12.229.197-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.197.229.12]) by msfrf2219.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id D921E7000085 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:55:22 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091121105522889.D921E7000085@msfrf2219.sfr.fr Message-ID: <000b01ca6a95$3d7f3a60$0301a8c0@F8BOJSQUSV2QH5> From: "claude berthebaud" To: References: <200911211147020937.19DC740F@smtp2.numeo.fr> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:27:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091120-1, 20/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: F8BOJ 40dB and G3XDV 20-30dB over noise on 137 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi John many thanks gor the control good week end Claude F8boj JN16WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "John RABSON" To: Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 11:47 AM Subject: LF: F8BOJ 40dB and G3XDV 20-30dB over noise on 137 > At 1043z. > > John Rabson > F5VLF > 58800 Cervon > France > JN17vg > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMG103-9fc4b12f967218; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:45:17 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG026-9fc4b12f967218; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:44:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEsUt-0004dC-GB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:44:03 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEsUt-0004d3-3y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:44:03 +0000 Received: from smtp23.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.20]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEsUr-0005ql-GT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:44:03 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2309.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0C331700008A for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:43:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (12.5.194-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.194.5.12]) by msfrf2309.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id AE81A7000086 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:43:55 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091129224355714.AE81A7000086@msfrf2309.sfr.fr Message-ID: <000601ca7145$6ec0c650$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:43:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091129-1, 29/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: F8boj qrss60 137776.20hz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01CA714D.D03DC510" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01CA714D.D03DC510 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good evening Andrey=20 Many thanks for the openning your grabber y copy my traces very well thanks you very match also for the Markus DF6NM grabber and F1afj JPierre good night for all Claude F8boj JN16wa ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01CA714D.D03DC510 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Good evening Andrey
Many thanks for the openning your=20 grabber
y copy my traces very well
thanks you very match also for the=20 Markus DF6NM grabber
and F1afj JPierre good night for all<= /FONT>
Claude F8boj JN16wa
------=_NextPart_000_0003_01CA714D.D03DC510-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD024-9044afb2fbf63; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:42:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD054-9044afb2fbf63; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:42:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8KwR-0004Q9-8e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:41:27 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8KwQ-0004Q0-Sv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:41:26 +0000 Received: from mx01.infotech.at ([213.174.240.1]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8KwO-0006xv-1w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:41:26 +0000 Received: from [213.174.228.217] by mx01.infotech.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8KwL-0007Kp-4e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:41:21 +0100 Message-ID: <4AFB2FB4.1020503@inext.at> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:42:12 +0100 From: Oberreiter Oswald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1AC807D90B0B121E1F9A@kabelmail.de> <4AFB27FB.6020702@inext.at> In-Reply-To: <4AFB27FB.6020702@inext.at> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: what is it? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) sollte natuerlich YO2IS heißen. Oberreiter Oswald schrieb: > hallo Uwe ! > danke fuer den raport , das ist ein qso von oe5odl mit oy2is beginn > 0070z . du siehst hier nur oe5odl . > freilaufender vfo mit einigen herz drift ,in qrss3 merkt man das kaum > 73 de ossi oe5odl > > Uwe Jannsen schrieb: >> Hi all, >> >> pse see: >> >> http://dj8wx-dl.de/captu38 >> >> regards >> Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv >> >> >> >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md09.mx.aol.com (rly-md09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.147]) by air-md05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD051-9214afb177c111; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:59:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD091-9214afb177c111; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:58:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8JKQ-00044K-3R for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:58:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8JKP-00044B-Nu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:58:05 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8JJj-0008GV-1q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:57:23 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7286151C003; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:57:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AD16F3863; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:57:55 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id 87CA518056; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:57:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from 123.102-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (123.102-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [87.64.102.123]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:57:54 +0100 Message-ID: <20091111205754.ebmv41f7k0c4g4co@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:57:54 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "jwfisher@alumni.princeton.edu" , "jwfisher@alumni.princeton.edu NOT" Cc: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <20091111075814.94NGA.7351.root@tormtz04> In-Reply-To: <20091111075814.94NGA.7351.root@tormtz04> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 87.64.102.123 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: 500 kHz WSPR de VE1JF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) > Might it be feasible for you to send me a circuit diagram by an > attachment I could forward to my colleagues? I only have a drawing on paper. I will scan it (if I can get the scanner working) and send it to you. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df06.mx.aol.com (rly-df06.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.19]) by air-df08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF081-55c4b0a88d168; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:06:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF067-55c4b0a88d168; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:06:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCYbI-0000ZF-FR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:05:04 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCYbI-0000Z6-3G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:05:04 +0000 Received: from mail-yw0-f176.google.com ([209.85.211.176]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCYbG-00020n-9G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:05:04 +0000 Received: by ywh6 with SMTP id 6so4671796ywh.4 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:04:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Lnuvpxzq9kYve4FkNtYEomXQDYNQLc2++i0V089Xoe0=; b=imM3eh4vs/qYbYXzybmxu5Ra/jEAZ/edzjo5fnhzfdhDGsF9KhyfFJlLqLazaiHd2I Yw/4Hkd3W9ILtI+ff0YBN9lCTPcuAjgXAUCV82ahosWswGLC4EJ4zwoEjTQZfwtRVhuo CobqGbAoO/C7JlfaycIpIxkTNSKeSs8kpXTxs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=N4jHceQ7ReSJjA1yAqvQD/az9DLx6L6hv1UIJFUAmT3fh2LCcj2T1Mi3zNg0JiDD+R YJJuro65jPEG1Iv8RxWp5wZ26l5phZsgMlqMEnu/MYi6ozD45egPO2BGDI8FKGgrEg7w O7JAUFjwsXVuUIBf7EoBi12r2s7amC1HOZJI8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.127.17 with SMTP id z17mr8537271ybc.61.1258981495628; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:04:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:04:55 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70911230504v4d5d5936o5aee53bd506a30b9@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: xgj,xes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m204.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thank you Victor for the capture! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 12:45 AM, wrote: > 73 > > Victor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG083-9f34b04556eb3; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:13:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG015-9f34b04556eb3; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:13:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAqtP-0004gm-MC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:12:43 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAqtP-0004gd-5j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:12:43 +0000 Received: from col0-omc1-s15.col0.hotmail.com ([65.55.34.25]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAqtN-0004tq-Av for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:12:43 +0000 Received: from COL122-W57 ([65.55.34.8]) by col0-omc1-s15.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:10:33 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:10:33 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <041d01ca660d$05809000$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <041d01ca660d$05809000$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Nov 2009 20:10:33.0574 (UTC) FILETIME=[2F3CD860:01CA688B] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_aecf032f-882d-48ae-851b-741f8c127740_" Subject: LF: QSL CARDS X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_aecf032f-882d-48ae-851b-741f8c127740_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Mal! I have received the letter and QSL cards. Thanks! Lubos, OK2BVG From: g3kevmal@talktalk.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:02:23 +0000 Subject: LF: QSL CARDS If the stns below see this msg your QSL cards for=20 LF and MF qso's have been dispatched 1st class. Your cards have been=20 received. =20 JH0BBE , YO2IS and OK2BVG =20 de Mal/G3KEV =20 _________________________________________________________________ Nov=E1 Windows 7: Zjedodu=B9te si ka=BEdodenn=ED =FAkoly. Kter=FD po=E8=ED= ta=E8 je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD? http://windows.microsoft.com/shop=3D --_aecf032f-882d-48ae-851b-741f8c127740_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Mal!
I have received the letter and QSL cards. Thanks!

Lub= os, OK2BVG

From: g3kevmal@talktalk.net
T= o: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:02:23 +0000Subject: LF: QSL CARDS

If the stns below see this msg your= QSL cards for=20 LF and MF qso's  have been dispatched 1st class. Your cards have= been=20 received.
 
JH0BBE , YO2IS and OK2BVG
 
de Mal/G3KEV
 

Nov=E1 Windows 7: Zjedod= u=B9te si ka=BEdodenn=ED =FAkoly. Kter=FD po=E8=EDta=E8 je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD?<= /body> =3D --_aecf032f-882d-48ae-851b-741f8c127740_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da02.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDA021-a7c4b0d9b9b4; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:03:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA074-a7c4b0d9b9b4; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:03:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDP06-0008FP-36 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:02:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDP05-0008FG-Ml for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:02:09 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDP05-00044f-2t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:02:09 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3528.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6E39E1C00084 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:02:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3528.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5F6C51C00085 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:02:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.93.11]) by mwinf3528.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 14F481C00084 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:02:01 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091125210201859.14F481C00084@mwinf3528.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <599A7C6FD9D54072BA20B20C141D21CC@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:02:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Soft Rock for 500 Khz where to buy ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0048_01CA6E12.87DA2E50" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01CA6E12.87DA2E50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok Thanks for all the info=20 tnx - Graham ,=20 From: Graham=20 Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 11:29 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Soft Rock for 500 Khz where to buy ?? All . Where can a Soft Rock rx for 500 Khz be purchased from ./ Or do you need to modify a 455 Khz version for 500 ? If so .. where from a 455khz version ? Tnx-=20 Graham ..=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01CA6E12.87DA2E50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ok Thanks for  all the  inf= o=20
 
tnx - Graham ,

From: Graham
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 11:29 PM
Subject: LF: Soft Rock for 500 Khz where to buy ??

All .
 
Where  can a Soft Rock rx for&nb= sp; 500 =20 Khz be  purchased from ./
 
Or  do  you  need = ; to =20 modify a 455 Khz version for 500 ?
If so .. where from a 455khz version= ?
 
Tnx-
 
Graham ..




------=_NextPart_000_0048_01CA6E12.87DA2E50-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA024-a574afe9fcf9a; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:17:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA027-a574afe9fcf9a; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:17:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9HXh-0007Yv-KT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:15:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9HXh-0007Ym-9X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:15:49 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9HXg-0005OY-J2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:15:49 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.4] (rx1.twatt.home [192.168.1.4]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F8E63B49B for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:15:45 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4AFE9F71.6060305@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:15:45 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <00df01ca6488$e9244a80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <1258158609.4671.18.camel@pat-compaq-evo> In-Reply-To: <1258158609.4671.18.camel@pat-compaq-evo> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: PIRATES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) g4gvw wrote: > Mal, > Perhaps you should consider the view that, as with the cyclists and > horse riders there are modes of operation that lead to the promotion of > health and happiness and a calm and healthy state of mind. > No, surely these alternative modes of transport should be banned if they clog the roads up and prevent those with the high powered sports cars getting from A to B as quickly as possible! (where A = Scarborough and B = anywhere the driver considers is DX) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db05.mx.aol.com (rly-db05.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.80]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB042-ac34afd8a993d3; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:34:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB051-ac34afd8a993d3; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:34:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8z5W-0003oG-Uv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:33:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8z5V-0003o7-GR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:33:29 +0000 Received: from mail-gx0-f221.google.com ([209.85.217.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8z5T-0007jZ-ME for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:33:29 +0000 Received: by gxk21 with SMTP id 21so3454964gxk.10 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:33:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=a5z/cfQEGwTEMgOuJJWiAKD5/ACUO7lkHKo3TKFUyzo=; b=nrhjqUio8DLcyeSoLH9uuO95YGAADW5GYk9UIWLHL6asyF71RDLTGfs5RaKGl/wV6D VDeKrosrb1vAWel+uNICOyUNA/5h5KQjcicCxX363KzdkNJVHAxRxcNhR7fdZnzLrZbR MmQYXLsqJYtfURtc/hrdxuMXDOVeH4YxnkeT0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=RsA7obrUBV6uKKT/hhEw1dgM/XBdoSaxCqEzTaeMK+qgPS9qYtuJtuQnaZgUPccugo P7oQ1jyQF/gj6PKL7P3AsgrNETtE+8KZii4Bp8IqESXYE4Wup4B75+9ovcC6Y1ivLJYS 9XCQOGIH5X26DAheeiSvTTv9IeM8g/xVAuKuE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.150.79 with SMTP id m15mr481946hbb.32.1258130000701; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:33:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <961313.39040.qm@web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <961313.39040.qm@web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:33:20 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f9a72cc5eb8d0478433706 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m247.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001485f9a72cc5eb8d0478433706 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 And who do you think would bother if you did work one ? Who would even care ? Andy www.g4jnt.com this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny state 2009/11/13 M0FMT > The whole setup looks decidedly dodgy to me. If they are Pirates how > would it affect my license if the opportunity arose for me to work one and I > did? The only place I know where I am licensed work a non Amateur station is > on 5megs and that can only be a UK Mill station. > > It's a question of how much you value your license I suppose. > > 73 petefmt > > > --- On *Fri, 13/11/09, Graham * wrote: > > > From: Graham > Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature > stations ?? > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 14:53 > > Scott > > SO.... Matter and antimatter cannot coexist at close range for more than a > small fraction of a second because they collide with and annihilate each > other, releasing large quantities of energy in the form of gamma rays > > Got it now .. gamma rays are electromagnetic ..hence radio waves are > produced .. which may suffer (constructive interference) or (destructive > interference) resulting in large variations in amplitude at the point of > observation ..... > > Thanks ! > > G .. > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Scott Tilley" > > > Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:29 PM > To: > > > Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature > stations ?? > > > > > Hi John > > > > VX is in developmental service (same idea as US stations), EI in amateur > service... Like positive and negative antimatter they don't mix. > > > > 73 Scott > > > > > > John P-G wrote: > >> Scott Tilley wrote: > >>> Hi Graham > >>> > >>> All Canadian 600m stations are operating under COMMERCIAL Developmental > Licenses and are not able to communicate with the Amateur Service. > >> > >> So VX9MRC shouldn't be having regular CW QSOs with EI0CF? > >> > >> Still confused.... > >> > >> John > >> GM4SLV > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > --001485f9a72cc5eb8d0478433706 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
And who do you think would bother if you did work one ?
Who would even care ?

Andy
www.g4jnt.= com

this email has been scanned for political correctness by th= e nanny state


2009/11/13 M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>
The whole setup looks=A0decidedly dodgy to me. If they are Pira= tes how would it affect my license if the opportunity arose for me to work= one and I did? The only place I know where I am licensed work a non Amate= ur station is on 5megs and that=A0can only be a UK Mill station.
=A0
It's a question of how much you value your license I suppos= e.
=A0
73 petefmt


--- On Fri, 13/11/09, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>= wrote:

From: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Subject= : Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso wi= th other amature stations ??
To: rsgb= _lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 14:53
=
Scott

SO.... Matter and antimatter cannot coexist at close ran= ge for more than a small fraction of a second because they collide with an= d annihilate each other, releasing large quantities of energy in the form= of gamma rays

Got it=A0 now .. gamma rays are electromagnetic ..hence radio waves ar= e produced .. which may suffer=A0 (constructive interference) or (destruct= ive interference) resulting in large variations in amplitude at the point= of observation .....

Thanks=A0 !

G ..

---------------------------------------= -----------
From: "Scott Tilley" <st= hed475@telus.net>
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:29 PM
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Subject: Re: LF: Are the= =A0 new VE stations able to=A0 qso=A0 with=A0 other amature stations ??
>
> Hi John
>
> VX is in developmental service= (same idea as US stations), EI in amateur service... Like positive and ne= gative antimatter they don't mix.
>
> 73 Scott
> >
> John P-G wrote:
>> Scott Tilley wrote:
>>&= gt; Hi Graham
>>>
>>> All Canadian 600m stations= are operating under COMMERCIAL Developmental Licenses and are not able to= communicate with the Amateur Service.
>>
>> So VX9MRC shouldn't be having regular CW QSOs wi= th EI0CF?
>>
>> Still confused....
>>
>= > John
>> GM4SLV
>>
>>
>
>



=

--001485f9a72cc5eb8d0478433706-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (rly-dd06.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.153]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD071-b864b03284fd4; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:48:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD068-b864b03284fd4; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:48:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAWq2-0007GE-0C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:47:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAWq1-0007G5-Iw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:47:53 +0000 Received: from smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAWq0-0002nA-UQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:47:53 +0000 Received: from webmail.xs4all.nl (dovemail10.xs4all.nl [194.109.26.12]) by smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nAHMlhXb002603 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:47:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roelof@ndb.demon.nl) Received: from 82.161.81.65 (SquirrelMail authenticated user pa0rdt) by webmail.xs4all.nl with HTTP; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:47:52 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <9afca2640911171439r5f3352bcpc45b7052fa55b354@mail.gmail.com> References: <9afca2640911171439r5f3352bcpc45b7052fa55b354@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:47:52 +0100 From: "Roelof Bakker" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.18 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz conditions good Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Roger, Yes, they are! Canadian NDB's were coming in as early as 18:40 UTC. I also received NAVTEX, Yokohama, Japan on 518 kHz for the first time ever. 73, Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD103-9124b02b95b32f; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:24:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD072-9124b02b95b32f; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:55:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAPRw-0003GY-Us for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:54:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAPRw-0003GP-3r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:54:32 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([199.185.220.240]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAPRu-0000iW-Ey for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:54:32 +0000 Received: from edtnaa03.telusplanet.net ([75.157.140.241]) by priv-edtnes28.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091117144927.JTDW760.priv-edtnes28.telusplanet.net@edtnaa03.telusplanet.net> for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:49:27 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.67] (d75-157-140-241.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.140.241]) by edtnaa03.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 2AB281F023D2AD39 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:49:26 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4B02B7F6.4090100@telus.net> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 06:49:26 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1f0624b90911160805u4435bd18ue805924594d8b997@mail.gmail.com> <20091117081718.BDD6EF3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> <4B02B081.4080003@telus.net> <57a24ca70911170629t5d073432sf5c3c06bb071d0d8@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <57a24ca70911170629t5d073432sf5c3c06bb071d0d8@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Party to an offence? Warren Ziegler wrote: > Lighten up Scott! > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Scott Tilley wrote: > >> The first illegal ON-VX QSO. >> >> >> >> Rik Strobbe wrote: >> >>> Gary, All, >>> >>> yesterday I could copy VX9MRC in QRSS3 with a surprising strong signal as >>> early as 18 UTC, when I launched Argo. >>> Throughout the evening the signal was strong and with little QSB from >>> 19-22UTC, after that the signal became weaker with much more QSB. >>> Probably because I had a sked with Joe at 22:40 UTC ;-) . >>> But despite all we managed to complete the QSO with both way M report >>> (would have been a solid O earlier the evening). >>> A first ON-VE QSO on 500kHz and with +/- 4075km a new DX record for me >>> Joe transmitted on 507.770 and I on 501.190. >>> Between 19 and 22 UTC the signal was audible most of the time and would >>> have been CW copy if it were not squeezed between the NDB "Z" carrier at >>> 507.980 (S9+ here) the SM6BHZ CW/SSB test transmissions (up to S9) and a >>> local birdie on 507.600. >>> >>> For the QSO I was running 300W into my 11m high / 25m long lazy-L antenna, >>> estimated ERP about 1.5 Watt (at best, if the greenery does not absorb too >>> much) >>> >>> The night from Sunday - Monday I left Argo running, VX9MRC produced a >>> good signal all through the night and faded out at 07UTC. This would mean >>> that there is a potential transatlantic path on 500kHz for 13h a day !!! >>> >>> 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >>> >>> At 17:05 16/11/2009, you wrote: >>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> Good signals from both stations last night. >>>> >>>> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo. >>>> >>> >>> >> > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD032-90d4b0d317d1f5; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:30:46 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD065-90d4b0d317d1f5; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:30:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDHvy-0002yT-He for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:29:26 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDHvy-0002yK-3c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:29:26 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDHvv-0002dg-VF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:29:26 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.200] (rx2-v.twatt.home [192.168.1.200]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA883B50E for ; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:29:20 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4B0D312E.5080203@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:29:18 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01ca6db1$04873810$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> In-Reply-To: <000c01ca6db1$04873810$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Class E pa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) LF, Roger, Mal gave some insightful comments re: Class-E I have also used a class-E amp on 500kHz,and I echo all the comments about careful choice of FET and of the output tuning/loading to get the correct drain waveform. My usual contraption uses a single IRF150 (a TO3 cased 100V/18A SMPSU device) at 100W output. I've never had any trouble with this device expiring, even when running on a 30V PSU, with the peak drain/source volts flirting dangereously close to the 100V device limit. I've run a beacon occasionally overnight, at 100W (200mW ERP from my small vertical) and come down in the morning to find the antenna in disarray, capacity wires flapping in the wind, SWR sky high, and the IRF150 still going strong (if a little warm!) For antenna adjustment I wind the variac down to get 10W output and can happily keep a carrier on while I visit the antenna field and adjust the atu (including disconnecting the feeder to insert a reflected power meter). I did try a pair of IRF640 in parallel in Class-E and acheived 200W. They weren't quite so forgiving though, and expired in a shower of sparks when I accidentally removed the antenna connection.... John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (rly-mf01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.171]) by air-mf01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF013-93d4afb5c2149; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:51:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF013-93d4afb5c2149; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:51:47 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8NtT-0005IC-K2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:50:35 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8NtS-0005I3-Sx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:50:34 +0000 Received: from smtp831.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.189.245]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8NtQ-0008Az-Jy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:50:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 47986 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2009 00:50:26 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=yZ0HYV62eac4y9mS8ZxA1TeKSOT9sdU4HRmRC/Mkej1SgH2gLF/qEoaW6PC18BHWlLLbsAmqt/9QwJCSvBU9s0nUal3akoVzqhRFMEKF/atM41Z0UL/Ciw8Uoeavbv+boauDTmnzaNSHuCsSdBKaQT5Otbzvx+FN7F50xdvaMmI= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@81.131.23.104 with login) by smtp831.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Nov 2009 00:50:25 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: KHdpK2OswBBXlm4uxknbEiS4uYdJoGknHN90u4K8__lTafnafZg- X-YMail-OSG: OZUTy5EVM1nMMjfZgbPSVAGOfOSdO7VPT7Y4anc6BUi0P9MBW0MOKyWFbEs29Fv05FE28NGFCtidlI4AySOKiCURcjIbuVpGwBuXQGccajchG4V5JLEIFLXcC3Oq4vke01sr9leTQFjsdqV60bj.S6FtJAQ5HlsR_cjkRKPGgqbj3KGf9J9hmVPbRUKz3e.c4BguXwx.9U95b.N2hBG7OAYDQGY5ZqxpALhfGoMca6Evjkph3FblMyYcAOJbTvGb1jOlnGG.aMzRu_TrkT5livMIqsRtQ7s7io.WcppSPROz1tG5NcSxO6d9QXd_nAPQlyYCfxIlgje4AXm3hnSu7ipq X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <011201ca6332$23e930c0$0900a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <4AFB477C.5090604@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <001501ca6326$ff28c710$0617aac0@jimdesk> <00f301ca6329$8ba907c0$0900a8c0@lark> <001901ca632a$d3356ab0$0617aac0@jimdesk> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:25:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: RE: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Ah the dreaded laptop. Ok the isolation that is agood idea in that case you must make sure you have some Rf grounds somewhere. Laptops seem to float there is not reason (for the digital engineers who designed them anyway) to put an earth on the metalwork. The RF circuitating in those leads might be inducing hum. It might be worth trying an earth on any suitable but of the laptop metalwork....socket pillars ?? It definitely sounds as though it is hum getting into the PC sound system. Good Luck with it. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Cowburn" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 11:58 PM Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! > The soundcard leads are via an opto-isolator interface and the leads from > the interface to laptop are wound on ferrite cores, approx 8 turns each for > tx and rx. > > I will check the mains psu for the dell d610 laptop as that could be > introducing hum or picking up rf from the tx (IC-735). It might need > ferrites on the leads to and from the SMPSU > > I've just turned "the wick" down on the tx/rx inputs and also the rf gain on > ic 735 till the needle just shifted in case it was being over-driven so I'll > see how that works. > > Not a prob when I was QRPpp but as sigs improve with dark nights I'd noticed > it too > > Thanks to John and others for heads up and suggestions > > With best regards > > > Jim > > > Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia > Sent: 11 November 2009 23:49 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: Re: RE: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! > > Hi Jim what kind of PC are you using. If a desktop are to sure it has the > mains safety earth connected.....I have come across this problem before some > 3 connecter IEC moulded leads with only two wires in them!! If a laptop then > unless you use a radio earth that may all be floating. Sometimes it is > necessary to use an tranformer on the audio leads to and from the PC to gain > isolation from the hum and noise. I use old telephone hybrid transformers > 600ohm to 600 ohm ferrite cored. > > Best Wishes > Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Cowburn" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 11:30 PM > Subject: LF: RE: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! > > > > Hi John > > > > I'll have a look see. I've noticed on strong sigs from me (few and far > > between!) I get multiple decodes +50 and -50. I'm not aware of any > obvious > > mains hum if I monitor my outgoing sigs and all leads are wound on ferrite > > cores, but clearly something is amiss. > > > > I shall look into it and see what I can find > > > > Cheers for the heads up > > > > With best regards > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > Dr. James Cowburn > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John P-G > > Sent: 11 November 2009 23:24 > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: LF: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! > > > > Jim. LF > > > > It looks like G7NKS has a 50/100Hz problem on the audio - both in TX and > > RX directions - there are up to 3 decodes by Jim of a single station (eg > > G3YXM), spaced by 50 & 100Hz and I see also that M0BMU is also reporting > > multiple decodes of G7NKS with the same 50/100Hz spacing. > > > > Jim, have you some mains hum affecting the audio in/out of the PC? > > > > Cheers, > > > > John > > GM4SLV > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de05.mx.aol.com (rly-de05.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.141]) by air-de06.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDE063-4d54b0d7b3127f; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:45:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE052-4d54b0d7b3127f; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:45:07 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDMqW-0006cv-JO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:44:08 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDMqW-0006cm-5r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:44:08 +0000 Received: from out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.239]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDMqU-0005Cp-0s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:44:08 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArcFAPsJDUtOlrU4/2dsb2JhbACCJiuLPgbHfYQyBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,287,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="120004491" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([78.150.181.56]) by out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 25 Nov 2009 18:43:57 +0000 Message-ID: <003201ca6dff$3d5020f0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:43:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: mf acty Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002F_01CA6DFF.3CDFFA00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01CA6DFF.3CDFFA00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable EI6IZ now active on 500. Good sig in Scarboro 579. Just had a CW QSO. de mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01CA6DFF.3CDFFA00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
EI6IZ now active on 500. Good sig in= Scarboro 579.=20 Just had a CW QSO.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_002F_01CA6DFF.3CDFFA00-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df12.mx.aol.com (rly-df12.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.25]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF061-5994afad9f037f; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:36:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF128-5994afad9f037f; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:36:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8FEF-000374-U0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:35:27 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8FEF-00036v-Di for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:35:27 +0000 Received: from smtp820.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.189.247]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8FDX-0006fE-DX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:34:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 46710 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2009 15:35:20 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=KCeemzDXrSPr0jtwPow/9ozET6DmDod+lXaPaIGTV3S2iwJ1+e0a/IRHkBfSp4Qh+3iTxRa6SzMM7yMasLEChOXVJKPJc83lC9fe+Pi9h8HRuVaNDR3ypASvPsnRGAoIOBBB4zVWe1+CtIteKSW8oWKIbJDoscuaMAcD4csFDfs= ; Received: from unknown (HELO DennisPC) (dennis.easterling@86.142.159.245 with login) by smtp820.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Nov 2009 15:35:19 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: H_MJu2qswBDkdHeCAZfwexko6VNOiMP5URzYEvz3WrE5v1grQm6fnvJecjM9 X-YMail-OSG: 5uElZrIVM1nwYdQ6oro88ubOI.Dmt4LmTBJxHjnpbhGuJRLiyxvYJOsvLsl_sh1aD17RpcK2Sg2_KIOMUnbdE3RpT9hlbymf9lUBazEdyPTYQWMJuo4jko9j3N8SWR8ONg._akt1vUrtR4m_WS.GwzkYZZjBzmnMvkgEHWklm6jhvSzL2eMm697MXDPD8l4nLIyv14_77Rj8G_ICUbZEUKiVmJOB2Neb0M8kvuUVkwPeYwquh0z.T72u0E_rz0RFw60kIkjOVPCB8i0juplYFCwYqiUctM9SyzNK X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <0FBBF9B8F2964A18AC8D2E6AD58EFBF4@DennisPC> From: "DENNIS EASTERLING" To: References: <112811.74996.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com><001b01ca6225$fcddd970$0617aac0@jimdesk> <20091110192952.h8jck4a5wkwgg0s4@webmail6.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20091110192952.h8jck4a5wkwgg0s4@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:35:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Rik I really did open a can of worms, least said now soonest mended hi. Thanks for the offer of crystals but I can manage ok. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 6:29 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Hi Dennis, WSPR outside the 504.000 - 503.800 segment makes little sense, so a possible QSY can be only 100 Hz or so. But what xtal frequencies do you need to get away from the top end of the band? If you let me know I'll have a look in my xtal-box and if I find some you can use I will be happy to send them to you. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting DENNIS EASTERLING : > Hi Jim > > I was speaking figuratively as you are so near and on my xtl frequency. > My comment was directed at Chris' statment in email subject1000 QSOs, > who also suffers and others who have complained about beacons in > general. In fact the band is often dead for hours on end and it is nice > to find any signal, beacon or QSO, especially when testing. My point is > that is there should be room for both beacons and QSOs, then follows a > suggestion that LFrs may like to come to some agreement about reserving > a section for each mode. > > Hoping I did not offend, 73 Dennis M0JXM > ----- Original Message ----- > From: James Cowburn > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 4:51 PM > Subject: LF: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO > > Hi Dennis > > I did not realize I was causing you QRM. A quick e-mail would have > alerted me to it, rather than me being a “painâ€. I’m happy to work out > a compromise where we operate at separate times or if you suggest a > different frequency for me to work on. Just drop me a line with your > ideas on this. > > With best regards > > > Jim > > > Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS > ________________________________ > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of DENNIS > EASTERLING > Sent: 10 November 2009 16:13 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO > > Congratulations Chris. > > Most wspr stations seem to congregate at the top end of the band and are > not too much trouble. Jim G7NKS is the biggest pain as he sits on my > xtl frequency and is so close. Maybe a compromise would be for people > using beacons to keep to one segment of the band (hopefully not 502.2 > kHz -hee) > > 73 Dennis M0JXM > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Chris Osborn > To: LF Group > Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 6:03 PM > Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO > > LF > > It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m. > This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 600m / > 80m. > > Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and > EI0CF - No. 998. > > QSO break-down according to mode: 928 CW, 34 RTTY and 5 QRSS > > 600m STATIONS > > My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many > of these go back to the start of the UK 600m allocation in March 2007. > Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding > beacons). > Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of > again: G3KZU, G3YHV . . . > Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT: G3UNT, > G3VTT, G4GDR. . . > > MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED > > With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the same > stations many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of my total > contacts. > My most frequently worked stations are: > > GW3UEP - 120 G3KEV - 102 M0FMT - 90 G3ZWH - 80 (alas now > SK) > G3DXZ - 67 G4GDR - 60 EI0CF/ GI4DPE - 51 M0JXM - 48 > G3UNT - 45 G3VTT - 38 > > CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS > > There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a > cross-band QSO: > DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . . > > and our few EU MF friends are still active: > ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . . > > WSPR ON 600m > > I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for the > WSPR mode was never achieved for hand sent Morse (CW), which after all > is the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF marine > band. > If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stations > operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band then I > guess it may be time for me to QSY. > > 73 Chris G3XIZ > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD012-90c4af56f2a36f; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:59:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD064-90c4af56f2a36f; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:59:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6ks2-0000YQ-46 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:58:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6ks1-0000YH-NE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:58:21 +0000 Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com ([205.188.91.97]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6krv-0000xg-Sf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:58:21 +0000 Received: from imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (imo-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.138]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nA7Cw0Fb021855 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 07:58:00 -0500 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id l.c25.68b9f122 (14502) for ; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 07:57:56 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 07:57:56 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: F4DTL@aol.com X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: tnx QSO OE5ODL - DD7PC, QRSS +/-137.705KHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1257598676" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1257598676 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Hello Marco,how are you ? =20 73 de F4DTL Nicolas =20 Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 07/11/2009 13:35:49 Paris, Madrid, =20 marco.scholz@citi.com a =E9crit : Hello Ossy, many thanks again for fb random QSO an hour ago. Very relaxed QSO with your OOO signal. Conditions not perfect due some light rain this morning. vy73 Marco DD7PC, JN49ax -------------------------------1257598676 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= FONT id=3Drole_document color=3D#000000 size=3D2 face=3DArial>
Hello Marco,how are you ?
 
73 de F4DTL Nicolas
 
Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 07/11/2009 13:35:49 Paris, Madrid,=20 marco.scholz@citi.com a =E9crit :
H= ello=20 Ossy,
many thanks again for fb random QSO an hour ago.
Very relaxe= d QSO=20 with your OOO signal.
Conditions not perfect due some light rain this= =20 morning.

vy73
Marco
DD7PC, JN49ax

 
 

 

-------------------------------1257598676-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (rly-dg10.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.94]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG071-5fa4af9f3d217e; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:14:46 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG105-5fa4af9f3d217e; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:14:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7ztg-0000tv-Hu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:13:12 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7ztf-0000tm-SJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:13:11 +0000 Received: from ipmail03.adl6.internode.on.net ([203.16.214.141]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7ztc-0006BU-NX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:13:11 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArAFAA6C+UqWZXoy/2dsb2JhbACCIy6CIYVtgy0Gv0CRK4NqVAQ Received: from ppp122-50.static.internode.on.net (HELO HPt680a) ([150.101.122.50]) by ipmail03.adl6.internode.on.net with SMTP; 11 Nov 2009 09:42:57 +1030 Message-ID: <1642D8D498F44022BC9CAC72278574E8@HPt680a> From: "VK2ZTO" To: References: <773621.85981.qm@web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:11:18 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: CW and WSPR... Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003A_01CA62B7.4FA808B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01CA62B7.4FA808B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oh dear - to mangle an Irving Berlin composition title "The Song Is En= ded (But The Melody Lingers On)... (or should that be "The Malady Li= ngers On"). Personally, I fail to find any technical training or learning that cou= ld be gained from observing this CW political debate ad nauseam... So it is time to exercise my democratic right to unsubscribe and check= back in another year to see if things have moved on.... Bye Bye ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01CA62B7.4FA808B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Oh dear - to mangle an Irving Berlin= composition=20 title "The Song Is Ended (But The Melody Lingers On)...   (o= r should=20 that be "The Malady Lingers On").
 
Personally, I fail to find any techni= cal training=20 or learning that could be gained from observing this CW political= debate ad=20 nauseam...
 
So it is time to exercise my democrat= ic=20 right to unsubscribe and check back in another year to see if thi= ngs have=20 moved on....
 
Bye Bye
------=_NextPart_000_003A_01CA62B7.4FA808B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME032-9d94afd745e28b; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:59:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME095-9d94afd745e28b; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:59:44 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8xc5-0002uH-Jr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:59:01 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8xc5-0002u8-4Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:59:01 +0000 Received: from mail-gx0-f221.google.com ([209.85.217.221]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8xc3-0005uS-08 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:59:01 +0000 Received: by gxk21 with SMTP id 21so3348575gxk.10 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:58:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=V50aHxrTlQ3x8t5/ggQ6vyrW/qio/jDPJ1ECf+tKbzA=; b=tIio8JC1s2m4lXbnEl5/0t6XKHbYZL9cJkSxUSyiQAOzLLQnm4yrqHzNyRK8lBUL+a rMlV5UOCUgu0Jjd/xSHnJeF4TgFbK2aUaWPrXzM9i48VqOeIRZhMhiDW3inQSkiMdufp P5ppeZUzgiNzDjyUV6fXhYZdgkb6XPJzDvnY8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Q6yxu6YTVcpcr5b0oOly5yDrhk74NY9+R4WsBoMVDKLrfaut25xOw7rWAYtQl7lwmS upBPyzwsIk9fE9q+wwQCcV3H/CDcnnLkfFXwuWcdlmIwkQOXXyLWDjaJxTq61BUzZGq+ NVm1NHT3Fdp8DUFJPpDzpeaVsZ4YAg0upQiWw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.38.4 with SMTP id l4mr7969789ybl.340.1258124332358; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:58:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4AFD6D5F.3020302@telus.net> References: <2EB9AB3966984B91BB0C369B32CF12FC@AGB> <4AFCC936.9060800@telus.net> <4AFD125A.3060402@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <4AFD6D5F.3020302@telus.net> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:58:52 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70911130658h5a32b7a5o731ad8126b569c37@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d277.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Scott, Graham, John P-G, > VX is in developmental service (same idea as US stations) I would like to clarify the situation with regard to US Experimental licenses and their ability to communicate with other classes of license. As a matter of course Experimental stations are permitted to communicate only with other Experimental stations but exceptions can be granted on a case by case basis. For the Experimental licenses for which I filed the application myself (eg. WD2XGJ, WE2XEB, and WE2XGR) I put a clause in the application requesting permission to communicate with foreign amateurs. When the licenses issued they all contain the statement: "the licensee hereof is hereby authorized to use and operate the radio transmitting facilities hereinafter described for radio communications in accordance with the program of experimentation described by the licensee in its application for license." Since part of my program of experimentation as described in the application for the license was "communication with foreign amateurs" I believe that I covered that base. Certain other US Experimental licenses do not have the ability to communicate with amateurs in their application (in one case that I know of the FCC questioned a similar request causing the applicant dropped the request). The bottom line is that it depends on the specific license, I can only speak directly for WD2XGJ, WE2XEB, and WE2XGR but I believe that some other US Experimental licenses also have the ability to QSO with amateurs. I know that the WD2XSH stations DO NOT have the ability to QSO with amateurs. -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Scott Tilley wrote: > Hi John > > VX is in developmental service (same idea as US stations), EI in amateur > service... Like positive and negative antimatter they don't mix. > > 73 Scott > > > John P-G wrote: >> >> Scott Tilley wrote: >>> >>> Hi Graham >>> >>> All Canadian 600m stations are operating under COMMERCIAL Developmental >>> Licenses and are not able to communicate with the Amateur Service. >> >> So VX9MRC shouldn't be having regular CW QSOs with EI0CF? >> >> Still confused.... >> >> John >> GM4SLV >> >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc02.mx.aol.com (rly-mc02.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.86]) by air-mc04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC041-d5c4b0874c6282; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:16:33 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC024-d5c4b0874c6282; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:16:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBzAo-0004BF-58 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:15:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBzAn-0004B6-JM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:15:21 +0000 Received: from mx71.mail.ru ([94.100.176.85]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBzAm-0002ux-Uf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:15:21 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=27017 helo=EFREMOV) by mx71.mail.ru with asmtp id 1NBzAg-000BZM-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:15:14 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <004001ca6b00$71a63350$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: References: <39accf6e.491c4506.4b085f3c.33726@go2.pl Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:14:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: SP2KDS 137kHz Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Marcin, The signal is audible!! S1-2 at 23.10 73 Andrey Dear LF, SP2KDS calling CQ now... 137,695kHz QRSS 3 73! Marcin SQ2BXI From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA042-a804af49102e1; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:11:47 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA078-a804af49102e1; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:11:31 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6W4p-0006eZ-Fe for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:10:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6W4p-0006eQ-0m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:10:35 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6W3g-0000Uq-I3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:09:26 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so1667038bwz.4 for ; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:10:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=bwI4ciIhWA7UpitlQV9UcusgOgF5RiXyrNxYWDa2ai0=; b=eUw9veWlnM3t7eHPhm02ZHPHWpd3X8/JYUIFN8mrbI8ODLW5zWY4QisCdeochEz7hV 4VS3e0S8BiZXtvilCiCJyszvyfvaPftM1tMXHyxk9k8nE22cRLdNtG3aMSRSV4kIZhlo 41Dhl+u4M1DuhpVaEy/CBvvlIAVNvtzBKPkBI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=HKH1fO3R+RHi2e+2AHqbYVSytoIhBibPq6qPu2LWPFlXzsK2dGVT4e9bjCZZjRlhZR YyNwFog/jXKr4SCXmFm8alLa9V7wUDdiYpx8FhbhnCLZzAbwlLKYO5ZNQ83mx6zcbD22 REjOy+M+b03LE67jf6xat+DMcvNltolZJQLdM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.138.6 with SMTP id n6mr501536hbn.77.1257541826591; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:10:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9afca2640911061256r19dd6e30g5b4534a8b1c63a8f@mail.gmail.com> References: <9afca2640911060845r17eb75daracad4f874c3a1c9c@mail.gmail.com> <4AF487B6.4090504@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <9afca2640911061256r19dd6e30g5b4534a8b1c63a8f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 21:10:26 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: G3XBM: 500kHz ERP increased by 6dB - WSPR reports please Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f6db16dd3b6e0477ba45b0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d250.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001485f6db16dd3b6e0477ba45b0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Does anyone know an Excel route so that when I copy and paste from the WSPR database, the date and time field can be separated. All the other fields copy uniquely into their own columns, but that most important one comes in as a single column of text that needs string manipulation to spilt out. Very annoying! Andy www.g4jnt.com this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny state 2009/11/6 Roger Lapthorn > Yes, I have this data via the WSPR database (selecting > G3XBM/GM4SLV/forever/250spots). Definitely better than ever before. Will > leave it overnight to seewho else finds me. > > Thanks again John > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > 2009/11/6 John P-G > > >> >> Roger Lapthorn wrote: >> >>> *Please listen for me on 500kHz WSPR* and let me know if I am now >>> stronger >>> than before. >>> >> >> Roger, >> >> 1st period decoded at -21dB >> >> Have you a record (mental or otherwise) of the normal spread of s/n >> figures that I've recorded for you in the past? I'll leave the RX system >> running overnight so you can gather some data to compare your new antenna >> with the previous incarnation. >> >> Cheers, >> >> John >> GM4SLV >> >> > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > --001485f6db16dd3b6e0477ba45b0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Does anyone know an Excel=A0route so that when I copy and paste from= the WSPR database, the date and time field can be separated.=A0=A0 All th= e other fields copy uniquely into their own columns, but that most importa= nt one comes in as a single column of text =A0that needs string manipulati= on to spilt out.
=A0
Very annoying!
=A0

Andy
www.g4jnt.= com

this email has been scanned for political correctness by th= e nanny state


2009/11/6 Roger Lapthorn <= rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>=
Yes, I have this data via the= WSPR database (selecting G3XBM/GM4SLV/forever/250spots). Definitely bette= r than ever before. Will leave it overnight to seewho else finds me.

Thanks again John

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/11/6 John P-G <gm4slv@sighth= ound.demon.co.uk>=20



Roger Lap= thorn wrote:
*Please listen fo= r me on 500kHz WSPR* and let me know if I am now stronger
than before.<= br>

Roger,

1st period decoded at -21dB

Have you= a record (mental or otherwise) of the normal spread of s/n figures that= I've recorded for you in the past? I'll leave the RX system runni= ng overnight so you can gather some data to compare your new antenna with= the previous incarnation.

Cheers,

John
GM4SLV




--
-------------------= ------------------------------------------
http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.= uk
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088

--001485f6db16dd3b6e0477ba45b0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME052-9d54b08410a3cb; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:35:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME091-9d54b08410a3cb; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:35:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBvjH-0000Xs-6U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:34:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBvjG-0000Xj-RO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:34:42 +0000 Received: from out1.ip02ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.238]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBvjG-0001Xw-8o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:34:42 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtMEAO/PB0tZ8f80/2dsb2JhbACCJSuGS4RtBsVOhDwE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,264,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="118203524" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([89.241.255.52]) by out1.ip02ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 21 Nov 2009 19:34:36 +0000 Message-ID: <009b01ca6ae1$a841c970$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:34:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: ru6la Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0098_01CA6AE1.A7E99750" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0098_01CA6AE1.A7E99750 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nw 579 audible big signal. Tnx for earlier qso de mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0098_01CA6AE1.A7E99750 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Nw 579 audible big signal. Tnx for ea= rlier=20 qso
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------=_NextPart_000_0098_01CA6AE1.A7E99750-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (rly-mf08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.178]) by air-mf03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF032-9774af7eddce1; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:24:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF085-9774af7eddce1; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:24:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7RNI-0003Ps-9i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:21:28 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7RNH-0003Pj-ON for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:21:27 +0000 Received: from smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.25]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7RNF-0001kk-Is for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:21:27 +0000 Received: from webmail.xs4all.nl (dovemail12.xs4all.nl [194.109.26.14]) by smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nA9ALJ99089141 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 11:21:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roelof@ndb.demon.nl) Received: from 82.92.124.189 (SquirrelMail authenticated user pa0rdt) by webmail.xs4all.nl with HTTP; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 11:21:24 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <007a01ca60eb$9cb96fe0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> References: <007a01ca60eb$9cb96fe0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 11:21:24 +0100 From: "Roelof Bakker" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.18 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500 kHz TA report Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Jay, Regarding conditions, these have been really awesome the last few days. I have logged my first NDB from BC (ICW-525, Nenada near Fairbanks) and also heard 20 new Canadian NDB's since the start of September. I am talking abour aural copy. There is an opening for Alaska to my location in the Netherlands around 06:00 UTC. So the 500 kHz band should be good as well. 73, Roelof, pa0rdt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME024-9cd4b08379a141; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:55:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME081-9cd4b08379a141; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:55:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBv6O-0008Gh-Gb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:54:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBv6O-0008GY-3f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:54:32 +0000 Received: from out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.237]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBv6M-0002Mj-4M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:54:32 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAI7GB0tcGmCC/2dsb2JhbACERL8fkCGBMII4VAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,264,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="113034986" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.26.96.130]) by out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 21 Nov 2009 18:54:23 +0000 Message-ID: <008401ca6adc$09a702d0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <4B07ABA4.4060102@online.fr> <4B082AE0.80607@usa.net> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:54:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Alberto has SPOKEN !! take notice ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alberto di Bene" To: Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 6:01 PM Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO > Of course it’s a new and exciting technology, but I doubt that it is on one >> and the same level with a regular exchange and therefore should not be >> considered equally verifying a valid contact. Shades of the recurring and silly debates that every now and then happen on the Moon-net reflector... 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc11.mx.aol.com (rly-mc11.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.95]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC021-da74b01b4e63a8; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:24:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC117-da74b01b4e63a8; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:24:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA86J-0008GY-Pd for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:23:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA86J-0008GP-B7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:23:03 +0000 Received: from smtp818.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.18]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA86I-0002hh-Fm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:23:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 71388 invoked from network); 16 Nov 2009 20:22:56 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=whPSxUtrV3Bjd1ZbFmMjzaL30TnBQL4chRKHUEHrCN8hPhBzfqqHtR3irsd0pOgffTSwr1Shl4po9Fr+bn5hcSD7AYZ/FI0aU+TRl/Xrv+86YtW+MDEOoPGXObtNSgVb5S+bZYZCsMQReSovflFyaUk9hE5Z2asZcTt6scdFE18= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@213.122.7.126 with login) by smtp818.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Nov 2009 20:22:55 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: KHdpK2OswBBXlm4uxknbEiS4uYdJoGknHN90u4K8__lTafnafZg- X-YMail-OSG: tg9KkGEVM1lvPP3Pw.CciqwijFRBBQ0naE4sOidnMlmOKGkuJvNgUpT4Orhgl0qtV4yHth1jccwMIRmESn89BUikYWlIPzuKqt8b.8QaSPY7ykRamGslyutMmdWS9cQ2iGnQLduixbq1F7QY0vqxMFoVDghEZ_nwqPOdjkrbcn3v_1zwq4ZY9TcevcSxyO7f4JWEtWh2nIY7bJtw91aRFse_CEA23IfMhj4gwjCH1v.S4b2g_XzfNnO6tAwa7plhBznJyhqu8MoZWiqcOqzcT_1d2a.wvGa0YvMltzqHmx8ODUGxOK4TWT3UQ_VflLUJTqvnnTR7FdLnpfSbltz5kdytrz2.ytA- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <002e01ca66fa$9edc5f20$0900a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <626551.33117.qm@web63607.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:21:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: LF: Re: LEONIDS and propagation Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Andy observations over several months by some of the VLF group suggest that whilst there are some radio effects from meteors at low frequencies they are very weak and difficult to be sure of. In general there is no known mechanism for extensive ionisation which can be detected at LF.......however that doesnt say you shouldn't listen for it !!.....just dont be surprised if it is a bit "underwhelming" :-)) The best bet for observing effects are are reflections between 20 and 150Mhz. In Europe, the Graves satellite radar on 140.050 is a good way to watch pings with something like Argo or Spectrum Lab. I guess you could then try to correlate those with LF effects. See a recent paper on Renato's web site www.vlf.it Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy - KU4XR" To: ; ; "Part-15 Yahoo" ; "600 meter group" Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 5:29 PM Subject: LF: LEONIDS and propagation > ******* Quoting from SPACE.com ******* > > > Circle Nov. 17 on your calendar, for early that morning a moderate to possibly very strong showing of annual Leonid meteor shower is likely. > > The very strong display will favor those living across most of central and eastern Asia. In this region, meteor rates might briefly rise to a few hundred per hour (the time frame for the most intense activity is anticipated sometime around 21:40 GMT). > > A far more modest, but still potentially enjoyable display of a few dozen Leonid meteors per hour is expected to favor North America. In the United States and Canada, eastern observers will be particularly well-positioned for maximum activity, expected sometime between 3:30 and 5:30 a.m. EST, when the radiant of the Leonid shower will be well up in the dark southeastern sky. > > Hello all: > > Probable " D " and " E " layer ionization during meteor shower peak. > interesting propagation could take place at MF anf LF. The effectes will be seen into the VLF regions for those who monitor utility stations. > This would be a good opportunity for GRABBERS to be online if possible, and for WSPR stations to transmit, the WSPR spot database will show the results of any out of the ordinary propagational enhancements, as well as the GRABBERS. > QRSS signals will show the effects of the ionization trails in various > regions as they show up on various grabbers, or by direct captures of > a signal. > WSPR and WOLF modes will possibly show any changes in signals thru > the received data at the monitoring station. > Sporadic enhancement and reception of NDB's may be noticable. > > Good luck to all those who will be trying the PING mode, may you have > lots of QSO's. > > 73 all :::: > > > > Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN. > LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 185.29866 KHz ( QRSS-60 ) > Coordinates: N: 35* 43' 54" - W: 84* 3' 16" > http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD074-b5d4aff3f3618; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:37:43 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD017-b5d4aff3f3618; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:37:28 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9SAO-00028Z-LC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:36:28 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9SAO-00028Q-3h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:36:28 +0000 Received: from mcgi65.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.199]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9SAM-0006t9-4r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:36:28 +0000 Received: from mcgi65.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi65.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931A35C1F for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 02:36:20 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [81.195.15.221] by mcgi65.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Sun, 15 Nov 2009 02:36:15 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 02:36:15 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <287859382.1258239176.158750212.87677@mcgi38.rambler.ru> <4AFF3A89.50604@ukonline.co.uk> Message-Id: <773823877.1258241775.51611560.13185@mcgi65.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Grabber is ON Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 G/E Peter! * Peter Dodd [Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:17:29 +0000]: > Hi Roman. > > 501.05kHz TNX! QSY below. > Peter, G3LDO > > > > My grabber started on up to finished your activity. > > qrss.nm.ru -> grabber. > > Looking to 501.2-501.36 and 502.0 > > Whats a real freq, Peter? > > > > -- > > Roman RW3ADB. > > > > > > > > -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC084-b214aeecf385c; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 07:23:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC055-b214aeecf385c; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 07:23:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N4vv2-000762-TN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:21:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N4vv2-00075t-60 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:21:56 +0000 Received: from out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.237]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N4vv0-0006e2-9Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:21:56 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoEFAPNd7kpZ8axa/2dsb2JhbACCKSqLHQbMZYQ5BA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,666,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="68057544" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([89.241.172.90]) by out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 02 Nov 2009 12:21:21 +0000 Message-ID: <000e01ca5bb6$fc24dc10$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:21:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: test Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA5BB6.FBE932A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA5BB6.FBE932A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable test ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA5BB6.FBE932A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA5BB6.FBE932A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc11.mx.aol.com (rly-mc11.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.95]) by air-mc04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC041-da54af734b1399; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:14:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC115-da54af734b1399; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:14:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7F4m-00017a-89 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:13:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7F4l-00017R-LA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:13:31 +0000 Received: from mout5.freenet.de ([195.4.92.95]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7F3o-0002YT-Oq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:12:33 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.18] (helo=8.mx.freenet.de) by mout5.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #92) id 1N7F4i-0001FA-RR; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:13:28 +0100 Received: from w1761.w.pppool.de ([89.58.23.97]:3108 helo=2a2d7ed321c6425) by 8.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #94) id 1N7F4h-0006Af-Rj; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:13:28 +0100 From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" To: Cc: "'Chris Osborn'" References: <112811.74996.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:13:26 +0100 Message-ID: <6D45B1BD142A4CAFA108B09E30ABA30D@2a2d7ed321c6425> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: <112811.74996.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcpgnhSWRN+SqnimTZ2ESmQfsIMY1AAGL3Ow X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: AW: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0033_01CA60C0.B26E2270" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING, LINES_OF_YELLING_2 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01CA60C0.B26E2270 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Chris, Please receive also my congratulation to your 1000th MF QSO. Thanks also for all interesting information. Well actually, MF is a vy interesting band and I would be happy if we could also join this great band in DL.. But nevertheless, cross-band QSO's are also very pleasant. And each mode has its own interesting aspect for the different tasks in monitoring band conditions. Wishing you a lot of more pleasant MF QSO in the future and I am looking forward to our next cross band contact! vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI ======= _____ Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Chris Osborn Gesendet: Sonntag, 8. November 2009 19:03 An: LF Group Betreff: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO LF It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m. This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 600m / 80m. Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0CF - No. 998. QSO break-down according to mode: 928 CW, 34 RTTY and 5 QRSS 600m STATIONS My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many of these go back to the start of the UK 600m allocation in March 2007. Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding beacons). Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of again: G3KZU, G3YHV . . . Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT: G3UNT, G3VTT, G4GDR. . . MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the same stations many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of my total contacts. My most frequently worked stations are: GW3UEP - 120 G3KEV - 102 M0FMT - 90 G3ZWH - 80 (alas now SK) G3DXZ - 67 G4GDR - 60 EI0CF/ GI4DPE - 51 M0JXM - 48 G3UNT - 45 G3VTT - 38 CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a cross-band QSO: DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . . and our few EU MF friends are still active: ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . . WSPR ON 600m I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for the WSPR mode was never achieved for hand sent Morse (CW), which after all is the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF marine band. If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stations operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band then I guess it may be time for me to QSY. 73 Chris G3XIZ ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01CA60C0.B26E2270 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello Chris,

 

Please receive also my congratulation to= your 1000th  MF QSO.

Thanks also for all interesting informati= on. Well actually, MF is a vy interesting band and I would be happy if we could also join this gr= eat band in DL….

But nevertheless, cross-band QSO’s= are also very pleasant.

And each mode has its own interesting asp= ect for the different tasks in monitoring band conditions.

Wishing you a lot of more pleasant MF QSO= in the future and I am looking forward to our next cross band contact!

 

vy 73 de Gerhard  /  DK6NI=

 

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Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org [mailto:owner-r= sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Chris Osborn
Gesendet: Sonntag, 8.= November 2009 19:03
An: LF Group
Betreff: LF: G3XIZ - 10= 00 th MF QSO

 

LF

It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m.<= br> This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 600m= / 80m.

Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0C= F - No. 998.

QSO break-down according to mode:     928 CW,  34 RTTY  and   5 QRSS

600m STATIONS

My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many of these go back to= the start of the UK  600m allocation in March 2007.
Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding= beacons).
Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of again:  G3KZU, G3YHV . . .
Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT:  G3U= NT, G3VTT, G4GDR. . .

MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED

With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the same= stations many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of my total contact= s.
My most frequently worked stations are:

GW3UEP - 120     G3KEV - 102   &nbs= p;  M0FMT - 90     G3ZWH  -  80  (alas= now SK)
G3DXZ    -   67     G4GDR -   60      EI0CF/ GI4DPE  -&n= bsp; 51   M0JXM - 48
G3UNT    -   45     G3VTT=   -   38

CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS

There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a cros= s-band QSO:
DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . .

and our few EU MF friends are still active:
ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . .

WSPR ON 600m

I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for the= WSPR mode was never achieved for  hand sent Morse (CW), which after all is= the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF marine band.
If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stations= operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band then I guess= it may be time for me to QSY.

73 Chris G3XIZ






 

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2009-11-18 17:48   T61AA   0.503929   -13   1   MM36nq   10   S51CN   JN65tm   4503   300 
 
Now thats something  you  dont  normally  see= !
 
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------=_NextPart_000_001F_01CA6878.6E1CDCF0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (rly-dc02.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.31]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDC013-b084b0c2f4719e; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:09:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC024-b084b0c2f4719e; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:08:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ND0kC-0006VH-3k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:08:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ND0kB-0006V8-Nn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:08:07 +0000 Received: from mail-yx0-f203.google.com ([209.85.210.203]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ND0kA-0003GW-PD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:08:07 +0000 Received: by yxe41 with SMTP id 41so15918938yxe.30 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:08:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5+d120bCfw5yq38rqa5Vw8ytnsx0kcHvnz+3gJhC33I=; b=gRmue4j0H1utM4mgAN4OtowClZgQ5zxi4PIChM0i26jtMCnSkNn+CC1HIOwFIeXYd5 iKgEToUgWO2B3tlsfZUQPpNIKuCkTGRsux0Ney1GvlWStCc4O/kpCMTNiW/IjX5q9FlA LC+plyM3yncsUD+UmzvtSWGMeZ5zmhwfJupKo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dW/o2b0mcHvaFYgEOVBQ7vRFk9/+C3P+Y9wDH5MrMwKhTCRxdlDIR6u83/Xlr7rjBQ OZQazxrsYNX+ZNah40UQshoYKX/7KJBrIKzxakeQde1ZsxofNkSqPQ3D6wu6E5MJUCSu zKMVy8zHP/t3mg6B6fuAYXJTBYS3jTNSR86EQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.210.5 with SMTP id i5mr11803674ybg.174.1259089679915; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:07:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <014501ca6d37$2f8821c0$0517aac0@desktop> References: <000e01ca6d27$45eaac40$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <014501ca6d37$2f8821c0$0517aac0@desktop> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:07:59 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70911241107v4b948ac6h9aa5a080f2cee158@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: RE: SITOR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d240.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) James, Relax ! They are looking for a DECODE (not TRANSMIT) program! Most likely to be used for looking at NAVTEX transmissions. --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 1:51 PM, James Cowburn = wrote: > IS THIS NOT TANTAMOUNT TO ENCOURAGING WOULD-BE UNATTENDED BEACON APPLIAN= CE > OPERATORS TO JAM THE BANDS WITH DATA?? > > > > Jim J=A0 (tongue firmly in cheek!) > > > > ________________________________ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton > Sent: 24 November 2009 16:58 > To: rsgb > Subject: LF: SITOR > > > > Looking for a good decode prog. > > mal/g3kev > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de04.mx.aol.com (rly-de04.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.140]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE053-4ca4b057b053f; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:06:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE041-4ca4b057b053f; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:06:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBART-00019h-Id for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:05:11 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBART-00019Y-4S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:05:11 +0000 Received: from mx34.mail.ru ([94.100.176.48]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBARR-0003QQ-9N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:05:11 +0000 Received: from [94.75.134.183] (port=57968 helo=[192.168.1.4]) by mx34.mail.ru with asmtp id 1NBARL-00035a-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:05:03 +0300 Message-ID: <4B057AA8.1060000@mail.ru> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:04:40 +0300 From: Dmitry User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 SeaMonkey/1.1.18 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <9afca2640911170243q3b4e2c95kb2668b937e727070@mail.gmail.com> <4B02BF9E.5020701@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <9afca2640911170734u7ebc121em5be88d61d99be249@mail.gmail.com> <20091117160109.6F44BF3863@smtps02.kuleuven.be> <4B02E76F.60609@mail.ru> <4B038095.9050807@telus.net> In-Reply-To: <4B038095.9050807@telus.net> X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: UA0AET Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Scott > Hi Dmitry > > Could UA0AET try at a time of mutual darkness between UA0 and VE7? UA0AET ready to beacon for VE, JA, VK 21 nov 13:00-15:00 UTC and 22 nov 10:00-15:00 UTC dfcw 120 137778.5 Dmitry > > Please relay message. > > 73 Scott > VE7TIL CN89dk > http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/ > > Dmitry wrote: >> Hi LF! >> >> UA0AET on DF6NM and BY3A-KL1X grabbers 137778.6 dfcw120 >> >> Dmitry >> RA3YO >> >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df04.mx.aol.com (rly-df04.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.17]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDF061-5464b13a6f5f7; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 06:05:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF045-5464b13a6f5f7; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 06:05:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NF43G-0005wG-VM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:04:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NF43G-0005w7-H4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:04:18 +0000 Received: from out1.ip05ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.241]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NF43F-0008IR-Tt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:04:18 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjQFAPc0E0tOlAvi/2dsb2JhbACCJiuGToR2Bsc5hDEE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,312,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="126720414" Received: from unknown (HELO your91hoehfy9g) ([78.148.11.226]) by out1.ip05ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 30 Nov 2009 11:04:12 +0000 Message-ID: <002b01ca71ac$daa46180$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:04:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RTTY 500 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0028_01CA71AC.DA664710" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01CA71AC.DA664710 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lots of RTTY QRM last nite on 500. I decoded several stns. G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01CA71AC.DA664710 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Lots of RTTY QRM last nite on 500. I= decoded=20 several stns.
G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_0028_01CA71AC.DA664710-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db01.mx.aol.com (rly-db01.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.76]) by air-db01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB011-aa34b0a890849; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:07:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB011-aa34b0a890849; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:07:22 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCYct-0000a3-HM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:06:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCYct-0000Zu-4N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:06:43 +0000 Received: from mail-yx0-f203.google.com ([209.85.210.203]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCYcs-0002VP-5k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:06:43 +0000 Received: by yxe41 with SMTP id 41so13000572yxe.30 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:06:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=sAUO/9ETKaAQRQeD9eVZ0MVEBG+oXWcX1AW8rCEz5WY=; b=GW9CSPSFLaYUF66JBDXKiLpJXL1uiwe25rTRqwBmX82fz+ri908nAuhRtWURtR8+x1 hXgqez/EptkLW6mIeH+5EXA9r+f4jJ5R/rwhQI2sBJ6y9JTCbxF/fgwcYy48fMc5mgSw uMDLfIAgbiwG9i586h+9wim8vcFR3a/b5147s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cNjOY4Qb1yp7Re5+xI2z1kz0CnYt+ZGRNxU/Xbx3XUtXUASH8tY6NiRPuZpECzjHOi RjRV+0bjA6LN2QSDvAEV+d6+GJTNNErUwKPrlAVUV3moR5NG8M0sZjewLcGnNUQ3pAS/ a/q10oIJfWKjs4nYk1fri2w6yOfMa0OUJZKp0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.10.42 with SMTP id 42mr8538813ybj.115.1258981594533; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:06:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4B0A46C5.20604@online.fr> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:06:34 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70911230506m71866936tb3c59da98c8427be@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: T/A [137 kHz] good conditions ( re also ! ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d266.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Lubos, Jean-Pierre, Thank you for the reports and captures ! FB condx on LF! --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2009/11/23 Lubos OK2BVG : > Hello Jean-Pierre, LF! > You are right, the conditions were SUPER! > I also saw the stations, you wrote about them. I have never seen all tho= se > stations on the one snapshot before. > > Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS > > ********************* > > >> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:24:37 +0100 >> From: jpm.f1afj@online.fr >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Subject: LF: T/A [137 kHz] good conditions ( re also ! ) >> >> Hello LF, >> >> Good conditions last night on 137 Khz ! >> >> "XKO" (WD2XKO) qrss60 >> "XGJ" (WD2XGJ) qrss60 >> "XES" (WD2XES) dfcw60 >> It is great pleasure of finding the actors of my beginnings LF! >> Miss Joe (NA) and Jay (XES) so that the table is complete! >> Thank you Sirs!!!!. >> >> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj >> >> NB : For information, the captures are always filed here : >> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ > Windows 7: Kter=FD po=E8=EDta=E8 je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD? Dal=B9=ED inf= ormace. --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (rly-dc01.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.30]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC011-afe4b09723e133; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:18:10 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC012-afe4b09723e133; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:17:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCFzs-0003td-9l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:13:12 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCFzp-0003tU-J7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:13:09 +0000 Received: from rekin26.go2.pl ([193.17.41.76]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCFzm-00051c-3H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:13:08 +0000 Received: from rekin26.go2.pl (rekin26.go2.pl [127.0.0.1]) by rekin26.go2.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F4EC35D7B4 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:12:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from unknown (unknown [10.0.0.74]) by rekin26.go2.pl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:12:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from 58-178-124-188.rev.pro-internet.pl [188.124.178.58] by poczta.o2.pl with ESMTP id YKzSvQ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:12:59 +0100 Message-ID: <013a01ca6b97$08717f10$3ab27cbc@niurhaxf0xcqlj> From: "Marcin" To: References: Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:12:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-O2-Trust: 2, 63 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: SP2KDS 22-11.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Henry, LF Very thank for capture. -- Vy 73! Marcin SQ2BXI Hi LF, nice copy SP2KDS, Henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: SP2KDS 22-11.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df01.mx.aol.com (rly-df01.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.14]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF071-5294b03230e1c; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:26:30 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF016-5294b03230e1c; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:26:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAWU9-0006oZ-1Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:25:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAWU8-0006oQ-Lv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:25:16 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAWU8-0002a4-2p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:25:16 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29E4A51C002 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:25:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E1D4F3863 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:25:02 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id 9C49018056; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:25:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from 39.10-180-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (39.10-180-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [91.180.10.39]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:25:01 +0100 Message-ID: <20091117232501.74fl611v28s040ss@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:25:01 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <000501ca67ba$e4817db0$6c01a8c0@DELL4> In-Reply-To: <000501ca67ba$e4817db0$6c01a8c0@DELL4> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 91.180.10.39 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Jay, positive id of "XGR" on 506.515 kHz, "M" report 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting "jrusgrove@comcast.net" : > T/A enthusiasts > > WE2XGR/2 will beacon in QRSS3 mode tonight on 506.5 kHz from ~ 2130 to ~ > 0030 Z. Reports appreciated. > > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db02.mx.aol.com (rly-db02.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.77]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB104-aad4b018cf91a0; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:34:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB023-aad4b018cf91a0; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:33:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA5P2-0006pF-Ai for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:30:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA5P1-0006p6-U4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:30:11 +0000 Received: from web63607.mail.re1.yahoo.com ([69.147.97.77]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA5Ow-0001kg-Kg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:30:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 33621 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Nov 2009 17:29:46 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1258392586; bh=RUqOcx2Ung2IIPArbElS+qIP9kuY+8xGehaLz2bb9mo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pXYM63yXPRjGWZdtcprW/pY0LzlhJpOnwm6mJ7nvoWUJXE34vescTSovogA71+fq28qkqPfi52rxZx+bYGlM0402gHCY0RPsTXgy+GXj96hzMOxl2K3FTXc/iSf5hKb0RtyE0IKYO5TsLP330+NEnVPSZ7e5xNk81wHDIlUnvLY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mNOAKqKQvv5NJIapZk44XNFh2BbOX+kvDdqhexSXNfQg8Z95zMcVas4LrnuvInJdUj/mUdJEQRf4IeTSibClfTZ/b14H8RDIO36caK1FR+vuONq8COqbxuOQDmZyblDpTdCYN6LcVEYMmYgdys2n7+JWOjixmg3aqMAkgLOeAAA=; Message-ID: <626551.33117.qm@web63607.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: hHkwZ64VM1m0wEPRsN5b4.a0LU3hFL1pmhdXLAN3IsDEn0fH3tfe_EDOcsrDGmDSJhZK6QF5NQF25qrSQV648B.i_fMEKyUG7LvUd.W4Iz.hK855XdDckmm5ht7uQTmN8AkKGQFSj0DR0DsHOEACgrMyhUTdlijb9LBqwgbfEXH1tPiKfqE5e23u2D9h1HbvFUyEjankGplAtUiBPKvIjUQUly9AfiOzM3TLiUJXPqKZ8MS2Q5QnKbCbg34q7aNT7KGAp_B_.t9k8P85CjhbzWQXHW2fC_ecUIcD4MH2oXPatj4aVXkYtRDbKDYzb.sY5G68f7FaAlD21pz0IZuyNqmPoaJO1nowaGmztvOJTb1Mw0G0AR2Iuve2bFn8omNI5vaFwsOlkA6eqGpB3tU- Received: from [98.70.124.157] by web63607.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:29:46 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:29:46 -0800 (PST) From: Andy - KU4XR To: lowfer@mailman.qth.net, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, Part-15 Yahoo , 600 meter group MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: LEONIDS and propagation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d226.1 ; domain : yahoo.com DKIM : fail ******* Quoting from SPACE.com ******* Circle Nov. 17 on your calendar, for early that morning a moderate to possibly very strong showing of annual Leonid meteor shower is likely. The very strong display will favor those living across most of central and eastern Asia. In this region, meteor rates might briefly rise to a few hundred per hour (the time frame for the most intense activity is anticipated sometime around 21:40 GMT). A far more modest, but still potentially enjoyable display of a few dozen Leonid meteors per hour is expected to favor North America. In the United States and Canada, eastern observers will be particularly well-positioned for maximum activity, expected sometime between 3:30 and 5:30 a.m. EST, when the radiant of the Leonid shower will be well up in the dark southeastern sky. Hello all: Probable " D " and " E " layer ionization during meteor shower peak. interesting propagation could take place at MF anf LF. The effectes will be seen into the VLF regions for those who monitor utility stations. This would be a good opportunity for GRABBERS to be online if possible, and for WSPR stations to transmit, the WSPR spot database will show the results of any out of the ordinary propagational enhancements, as well as the GRABBERS. QRSS signals will show the effects of the ionization trails in various regions as they show up on various grabbers, or by direct captures of a signal. WSPR and WOLF modes will possibly show any changes in signals thru the received data at the monitoring station. Sporadic enhancement and reception of NDB's may be noticable. Good luck to all those who will be trying the PING mode, may you have lots of QSO's. 73 all :::: Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN. LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 185.29866 KHz ( QRSS-60 ) Coordinates: N: 35* 43' 54" - W: 84* 3' 16" http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (rly-ma07.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.51]) by air-ma08.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMA084-8bc4b13b4282f6; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 07:01:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA076-8bc4b13b4282f6; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 07:01:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NF4vy-0006f1-10 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:00:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NF4vx-0006es-Kn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:00:49 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f215.google.com ([209.85.220.215]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NF4vw-0000HD-Qn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:00:49 +0000 Received: by fxm7 with SMTP id 7so3085375fxm.29 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 04:00:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=XoFkkYouQ7UGaf33z1nyl8eYL5FhnYU3dRxy/dxkYBI=; b=dT0KSPnR19+a1LztJGw6MkXeY36/c+BZUkcSS/IlisByStlKtzumnD9K4F1MCmTQui LxlfKJGNwjB5smrppKpvuhPZ4oFS/ftz8UnKPXeoTxaENhQ8pAoIt4bV0WHksRTn880S qXqs0eLk7X4e5gJqlSM38JMa3Ae/KPCn9xl/E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jkQ4x/Rdojr9NmueF87KDA2JNcSubP+KCQ7/uDF5sUZC2l/AvEpqo+NITnYdiDOShg wcaYf0GEuE0+7aVUqWOOCy/MY3iLsS8t14pCT02XG1Q8NSNDzUSEu1nR1gEyvnDDxpK5 ExkLQOf6SwUzPmGaavzPgHmiUoU9HHlXkCF0c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.182.163 with SMTP id q35mr411690hbg.70.1259582442402; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 04:00:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091130111915.ACBC6F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> References: <002b01ca71ac$daa46180$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> <20091130111915.ACBC6F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:00:42 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RTTY 500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d298.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I've been playing with ' CwGet ' http://www.dxsoft.com/micwget.htm . Its not very good at decoding these pulse-position-width mod ASK signals. There seemed to be millions of them QRMing the HF bands over the weekend. Can anyone recommend a better decoder. Or should we abandon it completelty for PSK31 ;-) Andy www.g4jnt.com This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health and safety police 2009/11/30 Rik Strobbe : > I could copy several RTTY and PS31 stations last night and decoded also= some > CW QRM ;-) > > 73, Rik=A0 ON7YD - OR7T > > At 12:04 30/11/2009, you wrote: > > Lots of RTTY QRM last nite on 500. I decoded several stns. > G3KEV > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df01.mx.aol.com (rly-df01.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.14]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF054-5274b005ade12; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:47:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF014-5274b005ade12; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:47:43 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9l3o-0000yH-TU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:46:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9l3o-0000y8-FK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:46:56 +0000 Received: from mailout10.t-online.de ([194.25.134.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9l3n-0002jX-C9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:46:56 +0000 Received: from fwd07.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.t-online.de with smtp id 1N9l3m-0007lB-00; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:46:54 +0100 Received: from e7010 (VghR9kZCZhpq5E7ViF-3R1pAGVHTBO6glr2ceI3LXhBhG76SP0kkyxiGzo2KeMOZjT@[84.147.204.191]) by fwd07.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1N9l3e-1FbdmS0; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:46:46 +0100 Message-ID: <008d01ca662c$5cfb2ec0$6402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: References: <000a01ca65ec$16f199e0$6402a8c0@e7010> <009d01ca65ff$7cf02820$0201a8c0@Clemens04> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:46:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: VghR9kZCZhpq5E7ViF-3R1pAGVHTBO6glr2ceI3LXhBhG76SP0kkyxiGzo2KeMOZjT X-TOI-MSGID: e6bcc68c-e574-4e3f-8e53-b947f641269e X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: DI2AG WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008A_01CA6634.BE88A840" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_008A_01CA6634.BE88A840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tnx, dr Clemens , for the first and early report today. 73 Walter ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Clemens Paul=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 3:25 PM Subject: LF: Re: DI2AG WSPR Hi Walter, =20 ufb copy: 2009-11-15 14:22 DI2AG 0.503899 +13 0 JN59no 0.5= DL4RAJ JN68kj 185 136 =20 =20 73 Clemens DL4RAJ =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Walter und Marianne Staubach=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 1:06 PM Subject: LF: DI2AG WSPR Dear MF, DI2AG is already on air in WSPR. QRG 505.090KHz, PWR 0.4W= ERP. Duty cycle 33%. The beacon will be busy until tomorrow morning. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF ----------------------------------------------------------------------= ------ Eingehende eMail ist virenfrei. Von AVG =FCberpr=FCft - www.avg.de=20 Version: 9.0.707 / Virendatenbank: 270.14.65/2503 - Ausgabedatum:= 11/14/09 20:42:00=20 ------=_NextPart_000_008A_01CA6634.BE88A840 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tnx, dr Clemens , for the first and= early report=20 today.
73   Walter
 
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Hi Walter,
 
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2009-11-15 14:22   DI2AG   0.503899   +13   0   JN59no   0.5   DL4RAJ   JN68kj   185   136 
 
73
Clemens
DL4RAJ
 
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Sent: Sunday, November 15,= 2009 1:06=20 PM
Subject: LF: DI2AG WSPR

Dear MF,
     &nb= sp; DI2AG is=20 already on air in WSPR. QRG 505.090KHz, PWR 0.4W ERP. Duty cycle= 33%. The=20 beacon will be busy until tomorrow morning.
73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF
 
 


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------=_NextPart_000_008A_01CA6634.BE88A840-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (rly-mf07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.177]) by air-mf02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF021-9714b0ceb861d6; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:32:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF077-9714b0ceb861d6; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:32:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDDGx-0001Mp-Gl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:30:47 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDDGx-0001Mg-5d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:30:47 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDDGv-0000ew-LC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:30:47 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 252034C806E for ; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:30:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27EEB4C8140 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:30:40 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B0CEB2F.8050609@online.fr> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:30:39 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: blacksheep X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: LF T/A [137kHz] WD2XKO , WD2XES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Dex , John , The good conditions are gone down ! but i copy XKO and XES last night 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd03.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDD031-b604b11e0fc318; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:48:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD022-b604b11e0fc318; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:48:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEZp4-0006Ms-B5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:47:38 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEZp3-0006Mj-TF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:47:37 +0000 Received: from lnx503.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de ([130.83.156.232]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEZp3-0002fM-6j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:47:37 +0000 Received: from FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.212.129]) by lnx503.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.14.2/8.14.2/HRZ/PMX) with SMTP id nAT2lZr1018924 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:47:36 +0100 (envelope-from schaefer@hst.tu-darmstadt.de) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de) by FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de with AVK MailGateway; for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:47:35 +0100 Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:47:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AA6A@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> In-Reply-To: <002e01ca7085$f21d05b0$3ab27cbc@ap6fnsa53r3k6h> X-MS-Has-Attach: Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz Thread-Index: Acpwhp0APK5KVm5VSY6MStav0W8ffgAFrekg From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= To: X-AVK-Virus-Check: AVB 19.594;28.11.2009 X-PMX-TU: seen v0.99a by 5.5.8.383112, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2009.11.29.23919 X-PMX-SPAMCHECK: outgoing mail X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: AW: Re: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear Marcin,=20 My /p ground is a copper band of about 20cm x 25m x 1mm (abt 25kg, so no= problem in the wind) With this band, just rolled out within 1...2 Minutes I get a overall loss= resistance of 50...55 Ohms (earth losses, wire losses, coil losses and,= of course, the radiation resistance) ;-) Are you qrv or just receiving until now? We always could try a qso if you= are interested. 73s to all, Stefan/DK7FC -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org] Im Auftrag von Marcin Gesendet: Sonntag, 29. November 2009 00:51 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: Re: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz Dear Stefan, LF Very good copied your signal in Poland. Why use your portable ground system? -- Vy 73! Macin SQ2BXI Dear Lowfers, This is my first mail to the reflector and so i want to say hello to all= :-) It=B4s nice to be able to participate now here although my activity will= stay on the band mostly ;-) If there will be no weather problems this evening I will agn be qrv on 137 in CW (abt 136,8) and/or QRSS3. Since abt 3 weeks I am qrv again. Since I live in a city I have no possibilities to be on LF, even not in RXing (QRM)... Therefore and cause= I like to be in the nature I am now qrv in /p. I use a kite antenna, 100m up (!). This should have a radiation resistance of 0,83 Ohms. My overall resistance is abt 30...55 Ohms, depending on the ground a achieve. So you can imagine abt the ERP. I have a 1KW class E PA that I use with limited power. But The ERP easily reaches the 1W ERP limit, as one can imagine.. My RX is still poor but I am working on a receiving loop. Now, I use the= TX ant for receiving that causes some problems ;-) It would be nice to get some QSOs or even RX-RPRTs tonight. Until now I go= t 2 QSOs in each activity ;-) Best regards, Stefan / DK7FC From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc02.mx.aol.com (rly-mc02.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.86]) by air-mc03.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMC032-d5e4b1396482ff; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 04:54:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC026-d5e4b1396482ff; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 04:54:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NF2wG-0005d5-Qk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:53:00 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NF2wG-0005cw-3R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:53:00 +0000 Received: from lnx500.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de ([130.83.156.225]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NF2wE-0000FX-GC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:53:00 +0000 Received: from FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.212.129]) by lnx500.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.14.2/8.14.2/HRZ/PMX) with SMTP id nAU9qteS020820 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:52:55 +0100 (envelope-from schaefer@hst.tu-darmstadt.de) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de) by FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de with AVK MailGateway; for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:52:56 +0100 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:52:56 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Message-ID: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AA82@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> In-Reply-To: <9F3AD1B305084F15AA47A8061538AD5F@lindavideo> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: AW: 4kv diode Thread-Index: AcpxJkUUO0KzahZVTDSIRyKPkzlTUQAe8stA From: =?windows-1258?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= To: X-AVK-Virus-Check: AVB 19.596;29.11.2009 X-PMX-TU: seen v0.99a by 5.5.8.383112, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2009.11.30.94217 X-PMX-SPAMCHECK: outgoing mail X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: AW: Re: AW: 4kv diode Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CA71A2.E4923439" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA71A2.E4923439 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1258" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ken,=20 =20 We have ordered these diodes before some years at:=20 Getronic GmbH Warnstedtstr. 57-59 22525 Hamburg=20 Tel +49-40-54744-100 Fax +49-40-54744-150 =20 Sorry, I don=B4t know a distributor in the UK=85 How much do you need? =20 73! Stefan / DK7FC =20 =20 =20 =20 -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org] Im Auftrag von Ken Gesendet: Sonntag, 29. November 2009 19:54 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: Re: AW: 4kv diode=20 =20 Hi Stefan. Thanks Stefan, do you have a source for either the BV8 or the BV16?, I hav= e been unable to find one. =20 73 Ken M0KHW ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 6:05 PM Subject: LF: AW: 4kv diode=20 =20 Hi Ken,=20 My hint is to try a BV8 Diode. It is able to take 500mA. On my work, I hav= e good experiences with the BV16, the 16kV Version.=20 Each one costs abt 1=80. Three in parallel, thermal coupled, should be no= problem at all. And: there=B4s no need for extra cooling! =20 73, Stefan=20 =20 -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org] Im Auftrag von Ken Gesendet: Sonntag, 29. November 2009 12:05 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: 4kv diode=20 =20 Hello All. I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or equivalent diode, BY4 4kv @ 1A, BY6 6k= v @ 1A, I have searched the web and looked in Farnell, any ideas please. =20 73. Ken =20 M0KHW =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA71A2.E4923439 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1258" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Ken,

 

We have ordered these diodes before some ye= ars at:

Getronic GmbH

Warnstedtstr. 57-59

22525 Hamb= urg 

Tel +49-40-54744-100

Fax +49-40-54744-150

 

Sorry, I don=B4t know a distributor in the= UK=85

How much do you need?

 

73! Stefan / DK7FC

 

 

 

 

-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----

Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Ken

Gesendet: Sonntag, 29. November 2009 19:54

An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Betreff: LF: Re: AW: 4kv diode

 

Hi Stefan.

Thanks Stefan, do you have a source for eit= her the BV8 or the BV16?, I have been unable to find one.

 

73

Ken

M0KHW

----- Original Message ----- =

From: Stef= an Sch=E4fer

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Sent: Su= nday, November 29, 2009 6:05 PM

Subject: LF: AW: 4kv diode

 

Hi Ken,

My hint is to try a BV8 Diode. It is able= to take 500mA. On my work, I have good experiences with the BV16, the 16kV Version= .

Each one costs abt 1=80. Three in parallel,= thermal coupled, should be no problem at all. And: there=B4s no need for extra coo= ling!

 

73, Stefan

 

-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----<= /font>

Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Ken

Gesendet: Sonntag, 29. November 2009 12:05

An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Betreff: LF: 4kv diode

 

Hello All.

I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or equivalent= diode, BY4   4kv @ 1A, BY6  6kv @ 1A, I have searched the web and looked in Farnell, any ideas please.

 

73.

Ken

 

M0KHW   

------_=_NextPart_001_01CA71A2.E4923439-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb07.mx.aol.com (rly-mb07.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.165]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMB023-d174b0c2b9e3a7; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:53:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB073-d174b0c2b9e3a7; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:53:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ND0Ug-0006H9-Jn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:52:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ND0Ug-0006H0-45 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:52:06 +0000 Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ND0Uf-0003AQ-Bt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:52:06 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.4]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091124185159.HMTR27507.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:51:59 +0000 Received: from [81.109.247.175] (helo=desktop) by know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ND0UY-0007u2-Gb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:51:59 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: References: <000e01ca6d27$45eaac40$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:51:50 -0000 Message-ID: <014501ca6d37$2f8821c0$0517aac0@desktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <000e01ca6d27$45eaac40$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Thread-Index: AcptJ6+OOw/budT0Tzy0G2Twk8cIIgADy0tg X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=ZtHxNT4mZm3rCuM0SmWmgWxeBwJsziC8EqOrwwVkrhA= c=1 sm=0 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=__Cjr1fVOnQ7gy31s0oA:9 a=FMvzVr_5ozMECM1t4ffPP7-uUDAA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=lmY3GW_J7IisIVyFvHkA:9 a=W6vkNyq9XE5ylnjCkbYA:7 a=xhYDAYKtungB-XvQeHEVP0cozzkA:4 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: RE: SITOR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0146_01CA6D37.2F8821C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN, HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING,LINES_OF_YELLING_2,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0146_01CA6D37.2F8821C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit IS THIS NOT TANTAMOUNT TO ENCOURAGING WOULD-BE UNATTENDED BEACON APPLIANCE OPERATORS TO JAM THE BANDS WITH DATA?? Jim :-) (tongue firmly in cheek!) _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton Sent: 24 November 2009 16:58 To: rsgb Subject: LF: SITOR Looking for a good decode prog. mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0146_01CA6D37.2F8821C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

IS THIS NOT TAN= TAMOUNT TO ENCOURAGING WOULD-BE UNATTENDED BEACON APPLIANCE OPERATORS TO JAM THE BANDS WITH DATA??

 

Jim J  (tongue firmly in cheek!)

 

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org [mailto:owner-= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton
Sent: 24 November 2009= 16:58
To: rsgb
Subject: LF: SITOR

 

Looking for a good decode prog.<= /font>

mal/g3kev

 

------=_NextPart_000_0146_01CA6D37.2F8821C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (rly-mg05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.111]) by air-mg01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG013-a114af609e620; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:59:43 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG053-a114af609e620; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:59:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6vBA-0001np-3Q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:58:48 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6vB9-0001ng-I3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:58:47 +0000 Received: from nina.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.76]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6vB6-0003ke-O5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:58:47 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by nina.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id nA7Nwcn7002345 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:28:38 -0330 Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:28:38 -0330 (NST) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <2F1AB4DFB90B402ABA068A546B4AEDDE@radiorummet> <9afca2640911070817h546534e4q7a3a8be61d767981@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: 10 mW WSPR beacon. Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-1719232024-493423239-1257638318=:31422" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ---1719232024-493423239-1257638318=:31422 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Sun, 8 Nov 2009, Gus wrote: > Roger, > > thanks! > > I'm trying to get a decode from you at any moment I am QRV on WSPR! > Despite my noisy environment, it certainly succeeds some evening / night= ! > > 73 de Gus SM6BHZ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Roger Lapthorn > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 5:17 PM > Subject: Re: LF: 10 mW WSPR beacon. > > > Gus, > > Getting a report from AA1A is amazing - really well done Gus. WSPR is= remarkable with very low power signals. > > As you may know, I have been using <1mW ERP for several weeks and have= been heard by 27 stations in 5 countries with best DX 896kms. I now belie= ve my ERP is approaching 2mW. I am hopeful that you will hear my tiny WSP= R signal one night soon - maybe tonight overnight Gus? > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > > > > 2009/11/7 Gus > > Dear LF group, > > > > After running beacon WSPR night 6-7 November with only 10 mW ERP (125= mW) TX power on 500 kHz it gives me great surprise, that a very long rang= e can be achieved with extremely small power! > > > Dave AA1A got a decoding where the distance between us is 5756 km. > > Also a number of EU stn=92s reported decodes. > > > On previous occasions, with a power of 1 W ERP is Laurence KL1X/BY3A= reported a number of decoding where the distance between us is 7284 km. > > > > I would also like to thank the other reporting from the night's 10 mW= broadcasts, and note that WSPR is a fashion which is particularly suitabl= e for very low power! > > > 73 de Gus SM6BHZ > > > > www.sm6bhz.com > > > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > ---1719232024-493423239-1257638318=:31422-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG093-a034aed6a9239d; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 06:01:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG035-a034aed6a9239d; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 06:01:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N4YBD-0003h0-Ia for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 11:01:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N4YBD-0003gr-77 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 11:01:03 +0000 Received: from mx01.infotech.at ([213.174.240.1]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N4Y9R-0003Jc-Px for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 10:59:14 +0000 Received: from [213.174.228.193] by mx01.infotech.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N4YAy-0008F4-Sq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:00:49 +0100 Message-ID: <4AED6A88.2010200@inext.at> Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:01:28 +0100 From: Oberreiter Oswald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: OE5ODL - report Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) hallo dave ! many thanks fer report my antenna is marconi inv L. high only 15m ,120m long lik a Z,with end C. my antenna areal is only 33m broad to56m long . 137khz 17 countrys workt in cw and qrs3. cuagn soon 73 ossi oe5odl jn68rd Dave G3WCB schrieb: > Ossi, LF, > Screengrabs of OE5ODL, captured this afternoon. My antenna is a 20m centre fed "Tee" at 5m. RX is ICOM ICP-R1000, with tuned pre-amp. > > > 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (rly-ma04.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.48]) by air-ma09.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMA091-89f4b12c445341; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:58:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA041-89f4b12c445341; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:58:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEoxW-0003DC-Ai for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:57:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEoxV-0003D3-Rf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:57:21 +0000 Received: from web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.127]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEoxV-00047f-Ne for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jim FYI =C2=A0 G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM=C2=A0 RTTY BEA= CO <091129 18:35:55 Start Logging> N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS=20 G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM=C2=A0 RTTY BEA= CO N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS=20 G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM=C2=A0 RTTY BEA= CO N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS=20 G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM=C2=A0 RTTY BEA= CO N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS=20 AIG7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM=C2=A0 RTTY= BEACO N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS=20 G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM=C2=A0 RTTY BEA= CO N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS=20 G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM=C2=A0 RTTY BEA= CO N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS=20 G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM=C2=A0 RTTY BEA= CO N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS=20 =C2=A0 73 petefmt --- On Sun, 29/11/09, James Cowburn wrote: From: James Cowburn Subject: LF: RTTY test transmission on 501.5 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 17:06 Dear LF =C2=A0 I am running a test RTTY transmission on 501.5 (I hope!!) =C2=A0It transmi= ts for abt 1 min every 10 mins. =C2=A0 I=E2=80=99d be grateful for any reports. =C2=A0I will shut it down at 20.0= 0z or before if necessary =C2=A0 73s =C2=A0 Jim G7NKS =20 --0-1421568518-1259521035=:12319 Content-Type: text/html; 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Jim FYI
 
G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM  RTT= Y BEACO
<091129 18:35:55 Start Logging>
N RTTY BEACON TXING EA= CH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C
OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE= G7NKS
G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM&nbs= p; RTTY BEACO
N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPT= ION VIA JAMES.C
OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS
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N RTTY BEACON TXIN= G EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C
OWBURN?VIRGIN.NE= T DE G7NKS
G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM=   RTTY BEACO
N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RE= CEPTION VIA JAMES.C
OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS
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OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS
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N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH= 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C
OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE= G7NKS
G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM&nbs= p; RTTY BEACO
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OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS
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73 petefmt

--- On Sun, 29/11/09, James Cowburn <james= .cowburn@virgin.net> wrote:

From: James Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.n= et>
Subject: LF: RTTY test transmission on 501.5
To: rsgb_lf_grou= p@blacksheep.org
Date: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 17:06

Dear LF

 

I am running a test RTTY transmission on 501.5= (I hope!!)  It transmits for abt 1 min every 10 mins.<= /DIV>

 

I=E2=80=99d be grateful for any reports.  = I will shut it down at 20.00z or before if necessary

 

73s

 

Jim G7NKS


=20 --0-1421568518-1259521035=:12319-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db02.mx.aol.com (rly-db02.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.77]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB043-aab4b02b3a82b5; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:31:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB021-aab4b02b3a82b5; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:31:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAP4C-0002vy-My for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:30:00 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAP4C-0002vp-3r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:30:00 +0000 Received: from mail-gx0-f210.google.com ([209.85.217.210]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAP4A-0000RN-D3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:30:00 +0000 Received: by gxk2 with SMTP id 2so33589gxk.4 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 06:29:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=uxZ01LlGa48IoZLLdUTqOEaGcKUIsgiKwLF4QpT+2sc=; b=lCxs2/YQJba8m6WIBDZc9G+HdA8at6Zn+zET6AKHLtyeYgpQSnYx29Itfq4cdTgORT cb4C1Ut7pKsfyluoR5JWzHlHjeBgsG+TCMHU7b1FSHgvDEne6LUev5gieSaLn8byRXga dE8kG0JS21BsG7s35H8LYDEfS0gzYYlvdUoUU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=orKMKLNoPfINLVIV/lwpFu2GzqObmQ4Bcu8zjaVtCzUaWklTciJbHaLnDIqo7J0KXH APDOM/WVpKNtpKgUiE17SaFVUJC0Ubl0N6zEO0/UskVxp0Uo99HjqB+O+b5aXhcPKgOt aOyuuKPJiZFC9xEYEPudukivCHmckOpQbou8c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.129.13 with SMTP id b13mr62840ybd.314.1258468189016; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 06:29:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B02B081.4080003@telus.net> References: <1f0624b90911160805u4435bd18ue805924594d8b997@mail.gmail.com> <20091117081718.BDD6EF3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> <4B02B081.4080003@telus.net> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:29:48 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70911170629t5d073432sf5c3c06bb071d0d8@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m266.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Lighten up Scott! On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Scott Tilley wrote: > The first =A0illegal ON-VX QSO. > > > > Rik Strobbe wrote: >> >> Gary, All, >> >> yesterday I could copy VX9MRC in QRSS3 with a surprising strong signal= as >> early as 18 UTC, when I launched Argo. >> Throughout the evening the signal was strong and with little QSB from >> 19-22UTC, after that the signal became weaker with much more QSB. >> Probably because I had a sked with Joe at 22:40 UTC ;-) . >> But despite all we managed to complete the QSO with both way M report >> (would have been a solid O earlier the evening). >> A first ON-VE QSO on 500kHz and with +/- 4075km a new DX record for me >> Joe transmitted on 507.770 and I on 501.190. >> Between 19 and 22 UTC the signal was audible most of the time and would >> have been CW copy if it were not squeezed between the NDB "Z" carrier= at >> 507.980 (S9+ here) the SM6BHZ CW/SSB test transmissions (up to S9) and= a >> local birdie on 507.600. >> >> For the QSO I was running 300W into my 11m high / 25m long lazy-L anten= na, >> estimated ERP about 1.5 Watt (at best, if the greenery does not absorb= too >> much) >> >> The night from Sunday - Monday I left Argo running, =A0VX9MRC produced= a >> good signal all through the night and faded out at 07UTC. This would me= an >> that there is a potential transatlantic path on 500kHz for 13h a day !!= ! >> >> 73, Rik =A0ON7YD - OR7T >> >> At 17:05 16/11/2009, you wrote: >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> Good signals from both stations last night. >>> >>> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo. >> >> >> > > --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (rly-dc03.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.32]) by air-dc09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC093-b114b01935316; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:01:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC035-b114b01935316; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:01:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA5m0-00072m-Lx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:53:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA5lx-00072d-EY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:53:54 +0000 Received: from web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.123]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA5ls-00011k-VO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:53:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 83659 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Nov 2009 17:53:36 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1258394016; bh=i1QVBoBVWAeEpPzDYCtF9ZizGhl8hP9QodM9z/wwD/s=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Erek+VXQ8OAqbV3v4Ar9TE63IaB6+FAqPQTStAFYZWE1yo4w4badi71W50eSJpL0U5oSYNf5uMv5+g2jm66cPMjzklQf97mJkKFpKb7+XjmEfNvXSs5GKu+o/JitzejprMq6nGdRrWJ9nv+0Ld2/9yLFh+6Xls7O+YEuUPSAlgo= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xtQN/NRAY56op3UkbSIu6g8zHbM7GDJAG7xps3XmDtYKw+WVbzKtbKL96VxF9LwW+hSD23/fmhE1kLWIs00pVW6b5oR0UEniPN4I6rw1rXWUS+xRyKHKqcr81qd8hhvuifVV8oRV2k0wkZjaXwmx/l2ELpkBz5+UyfXaDoAM5+0=; Message-ID: <770459.83537.qm@web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Jv2QsNAVM1n0RRA3PJF5s0gWVxB3K9c_O9TwaW7nQuaFK09N3TwhtuLmk6X.RxRz1k5pYiu5IgfXiBl9okczT80NSQbiEjLOe6gxCB7Hy6V5dsIJHf63nxUTidcMs1XpsXXLGLIjE7R4f2twae0VjorVCGRxBCNZMGzNLXp4DqGv5DU4MrJOb59x17oVW3k.ogGu.IlGR6aF53LwlvRW61ngULMfxAeaSZ5A33.RBEV_EXTZIetNJJaQSnXUphG7fhkOk.CDXkEPgO2LB5SklA_WsMgfVbI- Received: from [86.137.246.146] by web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:53:36 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:53:36 -0800 (PST) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <6384450D523443C29C5BD75742F335FF@AGB> MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: Jim's fixed it! WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1488585755-1258394016=:83537" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d299.1 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-1488585755-1258394016=:83537 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Looking good Jim =A0 73 petefmt =20 --0-1488585755-1258394016=:83537 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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73 petefmt

=20 --0-1488585755-1258394016=:83537-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB081-ad84b085bdf35f; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:30:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB076-ad84b085bdf35f; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:30:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBxWF-0002jr-0f for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:29:23 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBxWE-0002jh-MJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:29:22 +0000 Received: from nina.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.76]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBxWD-0002Br-KJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:29:22 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by nina.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id nALLTEjV004950 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:59:14 -0330 Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:59:14 -0330 (NST) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" In-Reply-To: <20091121211012.fehyrbxl4400ckc8@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Message-ID: References: <4B04EADA.4090707@telus.net> <57a24ca70911190525s5bbf2768gcfe5e7150eb8f784@mail.gmail.com> <20091121211012.fehyrbxl4400ckc8@webmail6.kuleuven.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: temporary grabber Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thanks, Rik. It appears as the signals are there already. 73 Joe On Sat, 21 Nov 2009, Rik Strobbe wrote: >> In the mean time, VX9MRC is presently on 507.77 kHz transmitting QRSS10 > > Hello Joe, > > I have set up a temporary 507.77 kHz grabber at > http://www.strobbe.eu/argo/argo.jpg > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md04.mx.aol.com (rly-md04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.142]) by air-md07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD071-8f94b00573319f; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:32:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD041-8f94b00573319f; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:32:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9koe-0000Zy-3W for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:31:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9kod-0000Zp-NS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:31:15 +0000 Received: from mailout09.t-online.de ([194.25.134.84]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9kod-0002cm-1g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:31:15 +0000 Received: from fwd08.aul.t-online.de by mailout09.t-online.de with smtp id 1N9koZ-0003qk-05; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:31:11 +0100 Received: from e7010 (TnwGSkZYohTXgloXqgn3QJ3+KHumHgdX1v3jYEog9AsXbxPfAoQTQ3YKGAqVUyhQAM@[84.147.204.191]) by fwd08.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1N9koM-1C51to0; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:30:58 +0100 Message-ID: <003a01ca662a$2791b300$6402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: References: <000a01ca65ec$16f199e0$6402a8c0@e7010> <4B0027F5.3060603@xs4all.nl> <4027d401.32bdadee.4b00481f.9684d@go2.pl Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:30:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: TnwGSkZYohTXgloXqgn3QJ3+KHumHgdX1v3jYEog9AsXbxPfAoQTQ3YKGAqVUyhQAM X-TOI-MSGID: 57ad380f-84ff-4ce2-aff5-2c654db9c619 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: DI2AG WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Marcin, tnx fer ufb rprt on MF in WSPR. Congrats to your antenna 120m long 30m high. The mine is 47m long and about 10m high. Good DX and 73 Walter ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 7:27 PM Subject: Re: LF: DI2AG WSPR > Dear Walter, LF > Good copy your beacon: > 1804 -10 1.7 0.505013 0 DI2AG JN59 27 > 1812 -14 1.4 0.505013 0 DI2AG JN59 27 > 1818 -10 1.5 0.505013 0 DI2AG JN59 27 > 73! Marcin SQ2BXI > in SP2KDS Club: antenna longwire 120m long, 30m hight > > > Walter und Marianne Staubach wrote: > > > Dear MF, > > > DI2AG is already on air in WSPR. QRG 505.090KHz, PWR 0.4W ERP. > > > Duty cycle 33%. The beacon will be busy until tomorrow morning. > > > 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF > > > > Walter > > 1546 -28 1.4 0.505089 0 DI2AG JN59 27 > > 73 de Ko, NL9222 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me01.mx.aol.com (rly-me01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.34]) by air-me06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME061-9954afc838e75; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:52:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME011-9954afc838e75; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:52:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8hZc-0007wr-Ia for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:51:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8hZc-0007wi-4Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:51:24 +0000 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([195.4.92.90]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8hZb-0000zH-1s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:51:24 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.18] (helo=8.mx.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.70 #1) id 1N8hZZ-0003Zk-Sf; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:51:21 +0100 Received: from w387f.w.pppool.de ([89.58.56.127]:1192 helo=2a2d7ed321c6425) by 8.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #94) id 1N8hZZ-0005Ov-5W; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:51:21 +0100 From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" To: Cc: "'Gary - G4WGT'" References: <002101ca5999$4bf20120$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <1256936694.4aeb54f611115@imp.netikka.net> <81521736.20091030222334@web.de> <1f0624b90910310554x54fe88d6r2718cc43a77ee978@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:51:22 +0100 Message-ID: <72905F9378E44EB3909119D22CF36CA9@2a2d7ed321c6425> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <1f0624b90910310554x54fe88d6r2718cc43a77ee978@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcpaKbPKKAPRUrlyQomHUn3/b+0xiAJt98nQ X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Report: G4WGT in QRSS3 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002F_01CA63EA.A8ACBB70" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01CA63EA.A8ACBB70 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0030_01CA63EA.A8ACBB70" ------=_NextPart_001_0030_01CA63EA.A8ACBB70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Gary, LF Very fine copying your QRSS3_signal here in JN59LN; (also good audible..hi..) vy 73 de Gerhard // DK6NI == ------=_NextPart_001_0030_01CA63EA.A8ACBB70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello Gary, LF<= o:p>

 

Ver= y fine copying your QRSS3_signal here in JN59LN;

(al= so good audible….hi….)

 

vy= 73 de Gerhard  //  DK6NI

 

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autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: DI2AG WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Andrey, mni tnx fer reports over distance 1896km. Great 73 Walter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 8:30 PM Subject: LF: Re: DI2AG WSPR > Hello Walter, > 1920 -27 1.8 0.505089 DI2AG JN59 27 > 1926 -28 1.7 0.505089 DI2AG JN59 27 > > 73 Andrey > > > Dear MF, > DI2AG is already on air in WSPR. QRG 505.090KHz, PWR 0.4W ERP. Duty cycle 33%. The beacon will be busy until tomorrow > morning. > 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb11.mx.aol.com (rly-mb11.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.169]) by air-mb08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB083-d354b068c562fe; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:32:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB111-d354b068c562fe; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:32:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBSdu-0005pN-WD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:31:14 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBSdu-0005pE-AH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:31:14 +0000 Received: from qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.16]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBSdt-0000if-0u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:31:14 +0000 Received: from OMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.59]) by QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 7Pk61d0051GhbT851QWmWV; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:30:46 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([76.23.233.102]) by OMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 7QX61d00C2DDHkk3TQX63S; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:31:06 +0000 Message-ID: <003001ca69dd$54c906f0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <000501ca67ba$e4817db0$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <002e01ca682b$c42ac460$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <00b301ca6915$df7b7440$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <20091120083258.C0711F3863@smtps02.kuleuven.be> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:31:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 1.7 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS20 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Thanks to Rik, Nicolas, Laurence (China!), Garry and Marco for successful reception reports...and others that looked for the signal. Tonight WE2XGR/2 will transmit "X" in QRSS20 (with cw ID at the beginning of the X) from ~ 2130 to ~ 2330Z. A slight frequency change was requested. Tonight's operation will be on 506.506 kHz. As always, reports are greatly appreciated. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDA101-a584b11733c25a; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:00:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA028-a584b11733c25a; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:00:14 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NESVD-00054C-Sw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:58:39 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NESVD-000543-4X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:58:39 +0000 Received: from lnx503.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de ([130.83.156.232]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NESVB-0000Yx-3e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:58:39 +0000 Received: from FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.212.129]) by lnx503.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.14.2/8.14.2/HRZ/PMX) with SMTP id nASIwZuD024002 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:58:35 +0100 (envelope-from schaefer@hst.tu-darmstadt.de) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de) by FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de with AVK MailGateway; for ; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:58:35 +0100 Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:58:35 +0100 Message-ID: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AA68@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <001401ca701e$5f8d3560$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> X-MS-Has-Attach: Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Thread-Topic: Re: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz Thread-Index: AcpwHzI9dzYKOf2oRhKrRvbam17WTwAPN99w From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= To: X-AVK-Virus-Check: AVB 19.593;28.11.2009 X-PMX-TU: seen v0.99a by 5.5.8.383112, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2009.11.28.184821 X-PMX-SPAMCHECK: outgoing mail X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: AW: Re: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hey Jay, tnx! I will start NOW, that means i put everything in my car and drive on the= mountain/hill in JN49IS. So it still takes 60 to 90 mins to see/hear the= first sigs. How long I stay, that will depend on the activity but abt 3= hrs is planned (I have a small generator that is heating my car (500W) an= d charges the batteries (up to 10A))... Hpe to cu there! :-) 73s, Stefan PS: The first time I will try to test a experimental rx-loop, mounted on= a hula hup circle ;-) -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org] Im Auftrag von jrusgrove@comcast.net Gesendet: Samstag, 28. November 2009 12:32 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: Re: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz Stefan Welcome to the reflector! What will be your hours of operation? Will be happy to have a look from th= is side of the pond. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Stefan Sch=E4fer" To: Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 5:36 AM Subject: LF: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz Dear Lowfers, This is my first mail to the reflector and so i want to say hello to all= :-) It=B4s nice to be able to=20 participate now here although my activity will stay on the band mostly ;-) If there will be no weather problems this evening I will agn be qrv on 137= in CW (abt 136,8) and/or=20 QRSS3. Since abt 3 weeks I am qrv again. Since I live in a city I have no possibi= lities to be on LF, even=20 not in RXing (QRM)... Therefore and cause I like to be in the nature I am= now qrv in /p. I use a=20 kite antenna, 100m up (!). This should have a radiation resistance of 0,83= Ohms. My overall=20 resistance is abt 30...55 Ohms, depending on the ground a achieve. So you= can imagine abt the ERP. I=20 have a 1KW class E PA that I use with limited power. But The ERP easily re= aches the 1W ERP limit, as=20 one can imagine.. My RX is still poor but I am working on a receiving loop. Now, I use the= TX ant for receiving that=20 causes some problems ;-) It would be nice to get some QSOs or even RX-RPRTs tonight. Until now I go= t 2 QSOs in each activity=20 ;-) Best regards, Stefan / DK7FC From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da04.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDA043-a794b0d79b8130; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:38:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA071-a794b0d79b8130; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:38:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDMkU-0006Tl-8h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:37:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDMkT-0006Tc-UB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:37:53 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDMkT-0003Fs-5o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:37:53 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CCC44C8170 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:37:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 859AE4C813F for ; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:37:47 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B0D797B.4050304@online.fr> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:37:47 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Who? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) RA3YO ! Chris a =E9crit : > Hi All, > Does anybody know who was sending 'Y' last evening just before midnight= UTC on approx. 137.778kHz, please? > Thanks, > Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, JO01MI. > =20 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb10.mx.aol.com (rly-mb10.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.168]) by air-mb06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB062-d334b098d9a22b; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:14:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB107-d334b098d9a22b; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:14:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCHsR-00054E-3T for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:13:39 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCHsQ-000545-HJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:13:38 +0000 Received: from out1.ip05ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.241]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCHsO-0005a3-52 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:13:38 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnsFAKAbCUtcHEQ8/2dsb2JhbACCT4s5BsRihDwE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,267,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="106713751" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.28.68.60]) by out1.ip05ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 22 Nov 2009 19:13:27 +0000 Message-ID: <00bb01ca6ba7$dd53d650$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <00ad01ca6ba5$82fec130$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:13:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: G3KEV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B8_01CA6BA7.DD008630" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01CA6BA7.DD008630 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You are OOO copy now at 1912 z=20 mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 6:56 PM Subject: LF: Re: G3KEV Tony Tnx ur call but the qsb was severe. We have worked before on cw so= do not understand why u are so weak at present. de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Anton B=E4rtschi=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 5:13 PM Subject: LF: G3KEV You are "O" here, dear Mal, ufb. Sorry we couldn't make it. Probab= ly my antenna is to small. It seems to me, that my limit is around 800= -900km on Longwave. Power is 1kW and I can't get much higher. But one= day, we may get the permission for 500kHz and there it should be much= easier, even in normal CW. 73 de Toni, HB9ASB ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01CA6BA7.DD008630 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You are OOO copy now at 1912 z
mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mal=20 hamilton
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 20= 09 6:56=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: G3KEV

Tony
Tnx ur call but the qsb was severe.= We have=20 worked before on cw so do not understand why u are so weak at=20 present.
 
de mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Anton= B=E4rtschi=20
Sent: Sunday, November 22,= 2009 5:13=20 PM
Subject: LF: G3KEV

You are "O" here, dear Mal, ufb. Sorry we couldn't= make it.=20 Probably my antenna is to small. It seems to me, that my limit is= around=20 800-900km on Longwave. Power is 1kW and I can't get much higher.= But one=20 day, we may get the permission for 500kHz and there it should be= much=20 easier, even in normal CW.
73 de Toni, HB9ASB
<= /BLOCKQUOTE>
------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01CA6BA7.DD008630-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb01.mx.aol.com (rly-mb01.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.154]) by air-mb04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB044-ce84b0853b31b2; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:55:26 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB014-ce84b0853b31b2; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:55:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBwyF-00029x-S2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:54:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBwyF-00029o-EU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:54:15 +0000 Received: from qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.64]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBwyE-000211-JL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:54:15 +0000 Received: from OMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.11]) by QMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 7v5A1d0050EZKEL57wu7SY; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:54:07 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([76.23.233.102]) by OMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 7wu41d0022DDHkk3Mwu4t5; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:54:04 +0000 Message-ID: <003801ca6aec$c4724650$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep" Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:54:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.7 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS20 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in QRSS20 ("X" with cw ID at beginning) on 506.506 kHz from ~ 2130 to ~2330 Z. Reports appreciated. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md04.mx.aol.com (rly-md04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.142]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD033-8fe4b06c514d9; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:34:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD046-8fe4b06c514d9; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:34:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBWQY-0007WI-V3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:33:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBWQY-0007W8-Io for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:33:42 +0000 Received: from mailout11.t-online.de ([194.25.134.85]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBWQX-0000v8-UD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:33:42 +0000 Received: from fwd06.aul.t-online.de by mailout11.t-online.de with smtp id 1NBWQX-0002IF-02; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:33:41 +0100 Received: from e7010 (bVP-ABZbrhYmhODtQRMFYHWsApesh2SS8E1xzeexLTVqI+-tjX+4VTTMM8tj424w+F@[84.147.218.103]) by fwd06.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1NBWQI-02FxtQ0; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:33:26 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01ca69ff$305eda20$6402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:33:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: bVP-ABZbrhYmhODtQRMFYHWsApesh2SS8E1xzeexLTVqI+-tjX+4VTTMM8tj424w+F X-TOI-MSGID: 46bfca47-f813-45d3-8c6e-1b6b772856bd X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: DI2AG WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6A07.90141130" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6A07.90141130 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear MF, the beacon DI2AG is now QRV in WSPR on 505.090KHz. PWR 0.4W ER= P, duty cycle 33%. The transmission will end tomorrow morning. Pse ur= reports via WSPR DATABASE or reflektor. Thank you. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6A07.90141130 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear MF,
      &= nbsp; the=20 beacon DI2AG is now QRV in WSPR on 505.090KHz. PWR 0.4W ERP, duty cycl= e 33%. The=20 transmission will end tomorrow morning. Pse ur reports via WSPR DATABA= SE=20 or reflektor.
Thank you.
73   Walter  DI2AG /= =20 DJ2LF
 
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6A07.90141130-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me07.mx.aol.com (rly-me07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.41]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME021-9cc4b0281cf30b; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:58:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME078-9cc4b0281cf30b; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:58:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NALkL-00029o-Nv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:57:17 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NALkL-00029f-3K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:57:17 +0000 Received: from mail-px0-f187.google.com ([209.85.216.187]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NALkJ-0006nq-C6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:57:17 +0000 Received: by pxi17 with SMTP id 17so4755794pxi.30 for ; 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boundary=000e0cd21764c4727704788efcc2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m264.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0cd21764c4727704788efcc2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Rik, LF, I should be able to make 1w ERP or more using my Class D Tx but I have matching problems on 500kHz so no real high power in use yet. 73 Gary - G4WGT. 2009/11/17 Rik Strobbe > Gary, > > sure. > Condx were very poor during our QSO. > If propagation is good (as it was from 20-22UTC) far less than 1 Watt ERP > might do the job. > In addition you are most likely at a better location for VO in the north of > England. > Few days ago Finbar worked Joe in CW with 559-579 reports while i could > barely hear Joe. > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > > At 10:46 17/11/2009, you wrote: > > Rik, > > Well done. > > I should be in a position to attempt the same as I saw solid QRS signals > from Joe. > > Gary - G4WGT. > > 2009/11/17 Rik Strobbe < rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> > Gary, All, > > yesterday I could copy VX9MRC in QRSS3 with a surprising strong signal as > early as 18 UTC, when I launched Argo. > Throughout the evening the signal was strong and with little QSB from > 19-22UTC, after that the signal became weaker with much more QSB. > Probably because I had a sked with Joe at 22:40 UTC ;-) . > But despite all we managed to complete the QSO with both way M report > (would have been a solid O earlier the evening). > A first ON-VE QSO on 500kHz and with +/- 4075km a new DX record for me > Joe transmitted on 507.770 and I on 501.190. > Between 19 and 22 UTC the signal was audible most of the time and would > have been CW copy if it were not squeezed between the NDB "Z" carrier at > 507.980 (S9+ here) the SM6BHZ CW/SSB test transmissions (up to S9) and a > local birdie on 507.600. > > For the QSO I was running 300W into my 11m high / 25m long lazy-L antenna, > estimated ERP about 1.5 Watt (at best, if the greenery does not absorb too > much) > > The night from Sunday - Monday I left Argo running, VX9MRC produced a good > signal all through the night and faded out at 07UTC. This would mean that > there is a potential transatlantic path on 500kHz for 13h a day !!! > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > At 17:05 16/11/2009, you wrote: > Hi All, > > Good signals from both stations last night. > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo. > > > > --000e0cd21764c4727704788efcc2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rik, LF,

I should be able to make 1w ERP or more using= my Class D Tx but I have matching problems on 500kHz so no real high powe= r in use yet.

73

Gary -= G4WGT.

2009/11/17 Rik Strobbe &l= t;rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.= be>
Gary,

sure.
Condx were very poor during our QSO.
If propagation is good (as it was from 20-22UTC) far less than 1 Watt ERP might do the job.
In addition you are most likely at a better location for VO in the north of England.
Few days ago Finbar worked Joe in CW with 559-579 reports while i could barely hear Joe.

73, Rik=A0 ON7YD - OR7T


At 10:46 17/11/2009, you wrote:
Rik,

Well done.

I should be in a position to attempt the same as I saw solid QRS signals from Joe.

Gary - G4WGT.

2009/11/17 Rik Strobbe < rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
Gary, All,

yesterday I could copy VX9MRC in QRSS3 with a surprising strong signal as early as 18 UTC, when I launched Argo.
Throughout the evening the signal was strong and with little QSB= from 19-22UTC, after that the signal became weaker with much more QSB.
Probably because I had a sked with Joe at 22:40 UTC ;-) .
But despite all we managed to complete the QSO with both way M re= port (would have been a solid O earlier the evening).
A first ON-VE QSO on 500kHz and with +/- 4075km a new DX record= for me
Joe transmitted on 507.770 and I on 501.190.
Between 19 and 22 UTC the signal was audible most of the time and would have been CW copy if it were not squeezed between the NDB "Z" carrier at 507.980 (S9+ here) the SM6BHZ CW/SSB test transmissions (up to S9) and a local birdie on 507.600.

For the QSO I was running 300W into my 11m high / 25m long lazy-L antenna, estimated ERP about 1.5 Watt (at best, if the greenery does not absorb too much)

The night from Sunday - Monday I left Argo running,=A0 VX9MRC produced a good signal all through the night and faded out at 07UTC. This would mean that there is a potential transatlantic path on 500kHz for 13h a day !!!

73, Rik=A0 ON7YD - OR7T

At 17:05 16/11/2009, you wrote:
Hi All,

Good signals from both stations last night.

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.




--000e0cd21764c4727704788efcc2-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de07.mx.aol.com (rly-de07.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.143]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE023-4ef4b091f4a27b; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:24:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE078-4ef4b091f4a27b; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:23:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCAX3-00020H-Pf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:23:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCAX3-000207-DV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:23:05 +0000 Received: from ey-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.78.145]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCAX2-0003W0-ND for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:23:05 +0000 Received: by ey-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 3so1410421eyh.16 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:23:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=DyMg3X+KrHzXl/JYncv6gxosdbfz4KtCHGm0HMkZLzY=; b=ox4isV7usZZQD8gI8csL58PylXDg+l3JrZ7OReklQGGytZauCrBr+Zf8gk+jwYPOX9 bgyCzzhfK5Tcg3UED0eGsyLSerE3x4KRlkpmGVPd+aABBJZvqJQtjSKq/PCSkyNWnhZe rb3W5xAmVdzEA/YE2EyKfN03vQGAKycWPtQ7M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Z8AjzWZa6bmsoMpQaC+MWO+xY/BNJOUlKEogT4G8S0Can6k4UvU+w3UgtYt43p54gp cJt7LCEo8YkA3ssSzEmLIrBarpLPgHmBsy+oOF8m4W5YkTFSo6cMhm0l8Ps1QhLBueQm imHF0ztVJkSh5EV7r1mzz8Gl4Vzte1a0mxOCU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.97.22 with SMTP id j22mr3484087ebn.53.1258888983915; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:23:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:23:03 +0100 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Anton_B=E4rtschi?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_00_10=0.642,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: F8BOJ and G3XDV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502e42cb2ad080478f3eeb6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d246.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --00504502e42cb2ad080478f3eeb6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thank you for the nice QSO's this morning, Claude and Mike. Right now wind is too strong and I had to go QRT. If the wind calms down I'll be back in the afternoon/evening. 73 de Toni, HB9ASB --00504502e42cb2ad080478f3eeb6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thank you for the nice QSO's this morning, Claude and Mike. Right now wind is too strong and I had to go QRT. If the wind calms down I'll be back in the afternoon/evening.
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--00504502e42cb2ad080478f3eeb6-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da01.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDA012-a954b06b1271f8; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:09:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA105-a954b06b1271f8; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:09:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBV62-0006ms-8b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:08:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBV61-0006mj-TE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:08:25 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBV60-0008U7-9p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:08:25 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3E0A51C122 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:00:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from PC_van_Rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-106.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.106]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8098FF3862 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:00:08 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:00:13 +0100 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091120150008.8098FF3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: something completely different Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear all, completely off topic but maybe of some interest: With immediate start all Belgian radioamateurs holder of a "full licence" have access to 69.950MHz (+/- 5kHz) with 10W EIRP on NIB. BIPT (our Ofcom / FCC) has to be informed prior to the first activity. See http://www.bipt.be/ShowDoc.aspx?objectID=3160&lang=nl (for those who can read Dutch or French) 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (rly-mg05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.111]) by air-mg06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG063-a104af834412a9; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:25:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG052-a104af834412a9; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:24:51 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7W5x-0004DC-3U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:23:53 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7W5w-0004D3-OX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:23:52 +0000 Received: from mx.omskcity.com ([79.133.160.2]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7W5u-0003xV-IR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:23:52 +0000 Received: from noname.nodomain.nowhere (host209.161-133-79.sotline.ru [79.133.161.209]) by mx.omskcity.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nA9FNj10035442 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:23:46 +0600 (OMST) (envelope-from fitec@omskcity.com) Received: from localhost (fitec@localhost) by noname.nodomain.nowhere (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA00286 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:26:05 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: noname.nodomain.nowhere: fitec owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:26:04 +0000 (GMT) From: "Alexander S. Yurkov" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <004101ca60ab$ef362e60$0900a8c0@lark> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.8 (mx.omskcity.com [79.133.160.2]); Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:23:47 +0600 (OMST) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Losses due to ant in tree? Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) On Sun, 8 Nov 2009, Alan Melia wrote: > ground same weather same season etc etc. The Yanks put their aerials through > the trees because they use loops and the voltage on the wires in many order > lower so the current lost to the tree is much smaller. True, true... Regards, Alexander From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD051-9304af7520b394; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:19:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD108-9304af7520b394; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:19:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7H1n-0001qi-Ek for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:18:35 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7H1m-0001qZ-MZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:18:34 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f211.google.com ([209.85.220.211]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7H1j-00079b-Fm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:18:34 +0000 Received: by fxm3 with SMTP id 3so839260fxm.4 for ; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:18:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Z2kmcOjzIKONLqc0aYQp4IFXI/VKtELCkSDA6tfvGvI=; b=p5OPoyaUThu7LPKUnV+2ukWlf/dDkL6XXJmpM8jetjog7DFrtra9Uw1ykAckY5WA+9 vuucIgYYh6lUZZBMoeaFRe7hUGhICYNzv6RnOYZG9rAfJ5ynLUGDD4yIwyYScYKQtchy YsTot4OjqKzlclSnyHc2CXsb7oF5F12+Fsv/s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Q+4X41nu0pDVNTyglvijFjjv4RUC6hvbRhzhixGzNpVw+Srahm1xPtEpFRjUOruFZ1 tvW9B/t0ziOyLKAg0XaN5QzscYSUNC5p3e79hnmdt8Tl2/KbP06GtkADu3ithI8uxunr 01tXsABFMqhxMc2Yew4bD2w2pwctwdeUIq4ZA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.154.198 with SMTP id p6mr7531120bkw.131.1257722305600; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:18:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <127436.39876.qm@web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <112811.74996.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <127436.39876.qm@web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:18:25 +0100 Message-ID: <9afca2640911081518j40fe9c13s7e37f3f02987cc1c@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: Re: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175defdc405be40477e44b87 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,LINES_OF_YELLING,LINES_OF_YELLING_2 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m263.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0015175defdc405be40477e44b87 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Congratulations Chris - excellent work. A small comment about WSPR... all of us who WSPR only occupy 200Hz of the band *in total *and there is the potential for about >100 WSPR stations to share this space at any time by using 10% TX only and assuming 6Hz/station is needed for any transmission. This is GOOD use of the spectrum in my book. 73s (and work you on the key soon!) Roger G3XBM 2009/11/8 M0FMT > Congratulations Chris > > A nice piece of work. And thank you for making 600metres the kind of band > it should be. > > I support your comments. We really need a band the size of the Norwegian > allocation to coexist with these incompatible, to CW, modes. > > Very 73 Petefmt > > --- On *Sun, 8/11/09, Chris Osborn * wrote: > > > From: Chris Osborn > Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO > To: "LF Group" > Date: Sunday, 8 November, 2009, 18:03 > > > LF > > It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m. > This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 600m / > 80m. > > Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0CF - > No. 998. > > QSO break-down according to mode: 928 CW, 34 RTTY and 5 QRSS > > 600m STATIONS > > My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many of > these go back to the start of the UK 600m allocation in March 2007. > Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding > beacons). > Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of > again: G3KZU, G3YHV . . . > Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT: G3UNT, G3VTT, > G4GDR. . . > > MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED > > With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the same > stations many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of my total > contacts. > My most frequently worked stations are: > > GW3UEP - 120 G3KEV - 102 M0FMT - 90 G3ZWH - 80 (alas now > SK) > G3DXZ - 67 G4GDR - 60 EI0CF/ GI4DPE - 51 M0JXM - 48 > G3UNT - 45 G3VTT - 38 > > CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS > > There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a > cross-band QSO: > DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . . > > and our few EU MF friends are still active: > ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . . > > WSPR ON 600m > > I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for the WSPR > mode was never achieved for hand sent Morse (CW), which after all is the > mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF marine band. > If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stations > operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band then I > guess it may be time for me to QSY. > > 73 Chris G3XIZ > > > > > > > > > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --0015175defdc405be40477e44b87 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Congratulations Chris - excellent work.

A small comment about WSPR.= .. all of us who WSPR only occupy 200Hz of the band in total and th= ere is the potential for about=A0 >100 WSPR stations to share this spac= e at any time by using 10% TX only and assuming 6Hz/station is needed for= any transmission.=A0 This is GOOD use of the spectrum in my book.

73s (and work you on the key soon!)
Roger G3XBM


2009/11/8 M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>
Congratulations Chris
=A0
A nice piece of work. And thank you for making 600metres the kind of= band it should be.
=A0
I support your comments. We really need a band the size of the Norweg= ian allocation to=A0coexist with=A0these incompatible, to CW,=A0modes.=A0<= /div>
=A0
Very 73=A0=A0 Petefmt

--- On Sun, 8/11/09, Chris Osborn = <g3xiz@yahoo.co.= uk> wrote:

From: Chris Osborn <g3xiz@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO
To: "LF Group" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Date: Sunday,= 8 November, 2009, 18:03


LF

It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO= using 600m.
This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of whi= ch were 600m / 80m.

Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up= G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0CF - No. 998.

QSO break-down according to mode: =A0=A0=A0 928 CW,=A0 34 RTTY=A0 and= =A0=A0 5 QRSS

600m STAT= IONS

My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many of these go bac= k to the start of the UK=A0 600m allocation in March 2007.
Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding beaco= ns).
Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard= of again:=A0 G3KZU, G3YHV . . .
Others were once very active but have= subsequently gone QRT:=A0 G3UNT, G3VTT, G4GDR. . .

MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED

With so few active operators it is obviou= s that one will work the same stations many times and the top 10 stations= account for 70% of my total contacts.
My most frequently worked statio= ns are:

GW3UEP - 120=A0=A0=A0=A0 G3KEV - 102=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 M0FMT - 90=A0=A0= =A0=A0 G3ZWH=A0 -=A0 80=A0 (alas now SK)
G3DXZ=A0=A0=A0 -=A0=A0 67=A0= =A0=A0=A0 G4GDR -=A0=A0 60=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 EI0CF/ GI4DPE=A0 -=A0 51=A0=A0= M0JXM - 48
G3UNT=A0=A0=A0 -=A0=A0 45=A0=A0=A0=A0 G3VTT=A0 -=A0=A0 38
CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIO= NS

There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjo= y a cross-band QSO:
DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . .
and our few EU MF friends are still active:
ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ= . . .

WSPR ON 600m<= br>
I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for= the WSPR mode was never achieved for=A0 hand sent Morse (CW), which after= all is the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF marine= band.
If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stati= ons operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band then= I guess it may be time for me to QSY.

73 Chris G3XIZ












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http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088
--0015175defdc405be40477e44b87-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db04.mx.aol.com (rly-db04.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.79]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB082-ac24b04820b320; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:24:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB048-ac24b04820b320; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:23:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAtrU-0005YL-H5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:22:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAtrU-0005YC-3i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:22:56 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAtrS-0005xL-Gn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:22:56 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.4] (rx1.twatt.home [192.168.1.4]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA6683B49B for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:22:51 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4B0481CB.3090308@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:22:51 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <572081.7375.qm@web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <572081.7375.qm@web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) M0FMT wrote: > Hi LF > > I think the issue is intermodulation products caused by over driving > the the linear RF stages of the TX into distortion because when Jim > reduces drive the sidebands petty well disappear at this range. Hello All, This doesn't explain why Jim also RECEIVES multiple spots from strong stations with similar amplitudes and 50/100Hz spacings. Applying Occam's Razor - look initially for one cause - rather than "on transmit there's a TX IMD or PSU hum problem and on RX there's another separate 50Hz problem" There's a 50Hz modulation problem somewhere, but it's most likely a common RX/TX part of the system. Speclab and a known, clean RX system are your friends.... Simplify.... Simplify.... John GM4LSV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC044-b234af07f4a39e; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:06:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC057-b234af07f4a39e; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:06:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N5OhG-0000Wf-PF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:05:38 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N5OhG-0000WW-86 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:05:38 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N5OhD-0003n5-UD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:05:38 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.4] (rx1.twatt.home [192.168.1.4]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACC7C3B4D8 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 19:05:32 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4AF07EFC.2050401@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:05:32 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <993BF7557D4B4C5F8251F19CEB166E93@IBM7FFA209F07C> <4AF06B6D.5080706@toya.net.pl> In-Reply-To: <4AF06B6D.5080706@toya.net.pl> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Hell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Piotr M=C5=82ynarski wrote: >=20 > there is also another very nice piece of software dedicated entirely to= =20 > Hell modes . it is Nino's IZ8BLY > prgram which can be found on his webpage: > http://xoomer.virgilio.it/aporcino/Hell/index.htm > it does handle the ptt isuue in a 'classic' way i.e. via available com= ports > Hello Piotr, et al, Yes, but unfortunately doesn't have the facility to key a CW transmitter= =20 with the Hell signal, so you still need either an SSB transmitter or an=20 outboard circuit to rectify the soundcard output to drive a CW=20 transmitter keying input. This has worked well for me in the past however. John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG102-a1b4b0aa99fd2; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:27:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG065-a1b4b0aa99fd2; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:26:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCamq-00013b-Ci for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:25:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCamq-00013S-0s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:25:08 +0000 Received: from psmtp31.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.33]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCamp-0003NT-5s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:25:07 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp31.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KTK00I68ITMKG@psmtp31.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:24:59 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:24:42 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <9E569DBC0A864E55B79D40E3B0F0CB60@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: XGJ 23-11.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_XStvOMFV0WEtRazf9dMqpQ)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --Boundary_(ID_XStvOMFV0WEtRazf9dMqpQ) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ODK5fhNivfqJ5HSesRKFBg)" --Boundary_(ID_ODK5fhNivfqJ5HSesRKFBg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi Warren, capture XGJ Henny cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: XGJ 23-11.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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Hi Warren,
capture XGJ
Henny cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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(envelope-from ) id 1NCuoz-0001mP-JF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:48:43 +0000 Received: from [213.174.255.2] by mx01.infotech.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCuox-0003zz-JC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:48:39 +0100 Message-ID: <4B0BD672.7000909@inext.at> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:49:54 +0100 From: Oberreiter Oswald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <8613F866EF3B4051A10B42518470A926@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <8613F866EF3B4051A10B42518470A926@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: ODL 24-11.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) hallo henny ! thank you fer report your signal today 136.550 cpm good 15 db over n. here jn68rd 73 ossi oe5odl henny van elst schrieb: > Hi LF > capture ODL, > strong signal, > henny pa3cpm > 73s > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden > verzonden: > ODL 24-11.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen > virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet > toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt > weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db02.mx.aol.com (rly-db02.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.77]) by air-db07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB071-aaf4b0910d22b6; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 05:22:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB025-aaf4b0910d22b6; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 05:22:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NC9ZL-0001PO-0D for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:21:23 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NC9ZK-0001P6-85 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:21:22 +0000 Received: from mx75.mail.ru ([94.100.176.90]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NC9ZI-0003CQ-Rs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:21:22 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=17627 helo=EFREMOV) by mx75.mail.ru with asmtp id 1NC9ZC-000IsU-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:21:14 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <002301ca6b5d$7f214da0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: References: Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:20:29 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: G3YXM qrss10 (qso with SP2KDS) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001C_01CA6B5D.6AAFFF10" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01CA6B5D.6AAFFF10 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Dave, LF, Capture last night at 23.32z 73 Andrey ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01CA6B5D.6AAFFF10 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="yxm.jpg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="yxm.jpg" /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAgAAAQABAAD/4QDmRXhpZgAASUkqAAgAAAAFABIBAwABAAAAAQAAADEB AgAcAAAASgAAADIBAgAUAAAAZgAAABMCAwABAAAAAQAAAGmHBAABAAAAegAAAAAAAABBQ0Qg U3lzdGVtcyBEaWdpdGFsIEltYWdpbmcAMjAwOToxMToyMiAxMDoxMjo0NgAFAACQBwAEAAAA 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<002e01ca682b$c42ac460$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <00b301ca6915$df7b7440$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <20091120083258.C0711F3863@smtps02.kuleuven.be> <003001ca69dd$54c906f0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:54:48 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 QRSS20 (and WE2XGR/6) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01CA6A99.0B7F19A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01CA6A99.0B7F19A0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Jay, Nicolas, Victor, LF, Only a trace. 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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:01:23 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <1043378010.1258326083.160784844.95853@mcgi39.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Who is it? 507.300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi LF! What is a signal we can see around 507.300 kHz onto G4WGT grabber now? Who is it? Too many times I can see a CW-like trace on that freq every night. Between 507.3 and 507.4 are visible now. -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da01.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDA011-a7e4b051c6dcb; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:23:01 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA076-a7e4b051c6dcb; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:22:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NB452-0007Vs-Vu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:17:36 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NB44z-0007Vj-SE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:17:34 +0000 Received: from smtp824.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.234]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NB44w-0000Bi-0m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:17:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 42317 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2009 10:17:24 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=vqqFjqjzJaXayBdfg4ydetL4IR/WOFbgoDWeVgdXaCUQCPkcNTGT+IQBOqj1Z5f2vBDvjvje14DQGpu5Fd1MsjX91+dfdiKM5zqftgj7QykPtOhk0qxALZoML3th58stFnC6m7sGUKVaVFwUEr2JBq/lpF1q4qMY7uI+BUae1Nc= ; Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.180.25.12 with login) by smtp824.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Nov 2009 10:17:24 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: qKIhhNCswBB2TTHr2BORWcGGR2mpopxhCcunGIxpCKQYiG07Q7UOhNo- X-YMail-OSG: lhPte9wVM1lnfiEO_qw0m4NxQhHzpqj_uPzv_aBCRGP8h.lO6oJBSaBdlh80QxvQVvax82186kyGrmk3H3FZCjNc84cDRKVsYau.bibh1JvaOelTq2.WmSazce2wMpZtYgIymBLUejrazztDy.EsgG.B_BGPJR05jWneRYeBeJP8SYndT5fUP9jBEOpJ8.WhLCzx42831CcS8d2nMryeF.7F1pfJx1X_fc7JGAj3h5AQ9j4c1HyVsCD984gdcg8wx88T7ycbCgc4upq_xU.iuZ5I1BBugFmv5KWnyke3dcD39TRTVa6eRvGupUbBVlNJMl0kjw-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <515CB1E53A2D4E02BBAB7B9E5E9CC0E8@JimPC> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <017801ca66fb$0bf91c60$0517aac0@jimdesk> <20091118085815.7282031E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <02ac01ca6832$39e82890$0517aac0@jimdesk> In-Reply-To: <02ac01ca6832$39e82890$0517aac0@jimdesk> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:17:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Rik, Pete, Jim, LF Group, I don't doubt that supply ripple to the PA could produce unwanted sidebands on a signal, but there are a couple of reasons why I don't think this is so in the case of G7NKS's signal: 1) The sidebands are spaced at +/-50Hz, 150Hz, while one would expect 100Hz and multiples due to power supply ripple - this would require a very odd ripple waveform, and at least several percent ripple, to get sidebands at -30dB as they are. 2) The sidebands on G7NKS's transmitted signal are mirrored by the apparent sidebands on signals received at G7NKS, for example: G7NKS received at M0BMU: 2009-11-15 17:50 G7NKS 0.503802 -27 -1 IO92ub 0.02 M0BMU IO91vr 38 171 2009-11-15 17:50 G7NKS 0.503852 +5 -1 IO92ub 0.02 M0BMU IO91vr 38 171 2009-11-15 17:50 G7NKS 0.503902 -25 -1 IO92ub 0.02 M0BMU IO91vr 38 171 M0BMU received at G7NKS: 2009-11-02 08:00 M0BMU 0.503899 -19 -1 IO91vr 2 G7NKS IO92ub 38 351 2009-11-02 08:00 M0BMU 0.503948 +12 -1 IO91vr 2 G7NKS IO92ub 38 351 2009-11-02 08:00 M0BMU 0.503998 -18 -1 IO91vr 2 G7NKS IO92ub 38 351 The apparent sideband levels and frequency offsets are virtually the same, but the PA can hardly be responsible for the sidebands on the received signal, and even if supply ripple was causing the problem on receive in some other way, it is remarkable that the relative levels are virtually the same. So I think Jim's problem must be being caused by a component of his system that is common to both TX and RX. Overheating of the PA, etc. is a different issue. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Cowburn" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 9:33 AM Subject: RE: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands > Hi Rik > > That's exactly what mine are. I think it's a mixture of stretching the Pa > on the IC735 so its at the edge of its envelope (the radio equivalent of a > stick shaker or stall horn on a plane!) and also RF leakage and mains > leakage into the soundcard system on the Dell lappy. It's only apparent > on > Rx and Tx of strong/local signals where the fundamental is so high (>0db) > that the first side lobes at -30dB are still within WSPR capture range. > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de07.mx.aol.com (rly-de07.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.143]) by air-de06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE063-4eb4b07c6f4223; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:55:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE074-4eb4b07c6f4223; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:54:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBnau-00048o-7r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:53:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBnat-00048f-MN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:53:31 +0000 Received: from col0-omc1-s14.col0.hotmail.com ([65.55.34.24]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBnar-00085h-12 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:53:31 +0000 Received: from COL122-W23 ([65.55.34.7]) by col0-omc1-s14.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 21 Nov 2009 02:53:20 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:53:20 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000f01ca6a92$b47052b0$0201a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> References: <000f01ca6a92$b47052b0$0201a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Nov 2009 10:53:20.0530 (UTC) FILETIME=[D6D46F20:01CA6A98] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_6be96d4d-a665-43f7-a42a-1ea661728c05_" Subject: RE: LF: f8boj G3xdv qso X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_6be96d4d-a665-43f7-a42a-1ea661728c05_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Claude, Mike and LF! Both, F8BOJ and G3XDV signals are nice. I am watching this QSO. Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS=20 From: f8boj@club-internet.fr To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:09:25 +0100 Subject: LF: f8boj G3xdv qso Hello Mick and LF good morning ...solid copy=20 ur O no probleme many thanks for the First qso=20 Claude F8boj JN16WA =20 _________________________________________________________________ Nov=E1 Windows 7: Kter=FD po=E8=EDta=E8 je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD? Dal=B9= =ED informace. http://windows.microsoft.com/shop=3D --_6be96d4d-a665-43f7-a42a-1ea661728c05_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Claude, Mike and LF!
Both, F8BOJ and G3XDV signals are nice. I am= watching this QSO.

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

From: f8boj@club-internet.fr
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgDate: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:09:25 +0100
Subject: LF: f8boj G3xdv qso
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Hello Mick and LF
good morning ...solid copy
ur O no probleme
many thanks for the First qso =
Claude F8boj JN16WA
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Windows 7: Kter=FD po=E8=EDta=E8 je pro v= =E1s ten prav=FD? Dal=B9=ED informace. =3D --_6be96d4d-a665-43f7-a42a-1ea661728c05_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc09.mx.aol.com (rly-mc09.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.93]) by air-mc08.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMC084-d974b0aea1854; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:01:46 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC097-d974b0aea1854; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:01:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCf4Q-0002Ci-Im for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:59:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCf4Q-0002CZ-7Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:59:34 +0000 Received: from mail-yx0-f203.google.com ([209.85.210.203]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCf4P-00055a-GL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m226.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) WD2XGJ will be off tonight. -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (rly-ma04.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.48]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA024-89f4afded6a260; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:36:30 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA041-89f4afded6a260; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:36:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N95fO-0006S3-1V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:34:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N95fN-0006Ru-GZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:34:57 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N95fM-0001np-S9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:34:57 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.14] (unknown [192.168.1.14]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17AF73B4D8 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:34:56 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4AFDED1F.1020803@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:34:55 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <00df01ca6488$e9244a80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <00df01ca6488$e9244a80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: PIRATES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) mal hamilton wrote: > whereas the other MF allocation 160 metres is > orderly and sensibly regulated using in the main CW and SSB. Really! Done much listening to 160m recently? Orderly!? I think not.... Mainly SSB and CW? I know not..... I've heard much Data mode stuff, some AM, some Hellschreiber, SSTV, all life is here..... Even some DX in WSPR mode - in broad daylight from the West Coast of the USA 2009-11-11 12:54 WA7KGX CN58no 7108km But ORDERLY... not on your life! From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df03.mx.aol.com (rly-df03.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.16]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF062-53e4b0849721e9; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:11:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF037-53e4b0849721e9; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:11:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBwHp-0001SO-31 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:10:25 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBwHo-0001SE-Lz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:10:24 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBwHm-0002kx-Q9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:10:24 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7B5151C001 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:10:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9271031E702 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:10:12 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id 80F9518056; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:10:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from 62.8-180-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (62.8-180-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [91.180.8.62]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:10:12 +0100 Message-ID: <20091121211012.fehyrbxl4400ckc8@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:10:12 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <4B04EADA.4090707@telus.net> <57a24ca70911190525s5bbf2768gcfe5e7150eb8f784@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 91.180.8.62 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: temporary grabber Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) > In the mean time, VX9MRC is presently on 507.77 kHz transmitting QRSS10 Hello Joe, I have set up a temporary 507.77 kHz grabber at http://www.strobbe.eu/argo/argo.jpg 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC031-b224af300b0a7; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:43:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC056-b224af300b0a7; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:43:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N65PP-0002Kk-8z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:42:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N65PO-0002Kb-Tt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:42:02 +0000 Received: from mx39.mail.ru ([94.100.176.53]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N65OB-0005cK-BV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:40:48 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=27180 helo=EFREMOV) by mx39.mail.ru with asmtp id 1N65PH-000LWm-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:41:55 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <003001ca5e36$dbf51f40$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: References: <254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C6EE3533@exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net> <4AF2BCDD.3090606@inext.at> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:41:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: New svc-station? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello LF'ers, Has this morning paid attention to a signal on frequency 137.426 khz. Argo in 3s: http://rn3agc.msk.ru/filez/091105-svcstn-3.jpg Argo in cw: http://rn3agc.msk.ru/filez/091105-svcstn-cw-2.jpg Somebody hears/sees it? 73 Andrey From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (rly-mf05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.175]) by air-mf07.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMF074-95b4b12465dd9; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 05:01:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF051-95b4b12465dd9; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 05:01:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEgZe-00005g-MI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:00:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEgZe-00005X-As for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:00:10 +0000 Received: from out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.243]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEgZd-0001R9-Qk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:00:10 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai8FALzUEUtZ8fF2/2dsb2JhbACCJiuGToR+BsRwhDEEgXI X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,307,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="264921962" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([89.241.241.118]) by out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 29 Nov 2009 10:00:02 +0000 Message-ID: <002201ca70da$b4515150$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 09:59:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 137 acty Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001F_01CA70DA.B40E7BF0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01CA70DA.B40E7BF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Observed last evening EW6 and OE5 stns CQ, good O copy qrs3 on 137.7 de G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01CA70DA.B40E7BF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Observed last evening
EW6 and OE5 stns CQ, good O copy qrs3= on=20 137.7
de G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_001F_01CA70DA.B40E7BF0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (rly-ma03.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.47]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA043-89b4af7d891119; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:53:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA035-89b4af7d891119; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:53:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7PzJ-00030L-AN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:52:37 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7PzI-00030C-Pf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:52:36 +0000 Received: from smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com ([195.200.78.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7PzF-00018d-TI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:52:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 30709 invoked by uid 507); 9 Nov 2009 09:52:20 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO JR) (john.rabson@numeo.fr@217.67.155.178) by smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com with SMTP; 9 Nov 2009 09:52:20 +0100 Message-ID: <200911090952240295.1602796A@smtp2.numeo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:52:24 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Canada on 600m Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Just found this: http://www.rac.ca/en/news/bulletins/2009/34/ John Rabson F5VLF 58800 Cervon France JN17vg From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com (rly-md01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.139]) by air-md06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD063-8e24b006a745f; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:54:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD012-8e24b006a745f; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:54:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9m63-0001jz-Hx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:53:19 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9m63-0001jq-61 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:53:19 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9m61-0001UW-PF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:53:19 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.6] (opc1.twatt.home [192.168.1.6]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id C53EF3B512 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:53:16 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4B006A3C.9030406@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:53:16 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000a01ca65ec$16f199e0$6402a8c0@e7010> <003e01ca662a$1592c400$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <001601ca6633$5f46ef50$6402a8c0@e7010> In-Reply-To: <001601ca6633$5f46ef50$6402a8c0@e7010> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: DI2AG WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Walter, Nice strong signal in Shetland: 20:48 DI2AG 0.505089 -13 0 JN59no 0.5 GM4SLV IP90gg 1428km only! Cheers, John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da08.mx.aol.com (rly-da08.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.82]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA073-a824afafc18da; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:02:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA082-a824afafc18da; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:02:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8HUT-0003e0-Rl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:00:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8HUT-0003dr-Ej for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:00:21 +0000 Received: from out1.ip09ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.245]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8HTj-0007ec-EM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:59:38 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtYEAI2K+kpOlAv5/2dsb2JhbACCJiyBaYtmzW2EPASBaw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,724,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="210243422" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.11.249]) by out1.ip09ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 11 Nov 2009 18:00:04 +0000 Message-ID: <00a001ca62f8$cf2b66e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:00:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Sm6BHZ into KL7 just a couple of mins ago... Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009D_01CA62F8.CEF49F70" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_009D_01CA62F8.CEF49F70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Laurence=20 Can u read my sig qrs3 502.57=20 now CQ =20 mal/g3kev cc----- Original Message -----=20 From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 4:56 PM Subject: LF: Sm6BHZ into KL7 just a couple of mins ago... 091111 1644 2 -29 -0.4 0.503925 SM6BHZ JO57 40 0 5938= 0 =20 Delighted over a pretty rough path at times and higher than normal= QRN. =20 Thanks for the early start Gus =20 Laurence WE2XpQ KL 1 x bp51ip Wasilla Palmer Alaska K9AY 2 loops Omni R75 =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------- Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. Si= gn up now.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_009D_01CA62F8.CEF49F70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Laurence
Can u read my sig qrs3 502.57
now CQ   
 
mal/g3kev
 
cc----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, November 11,= 2009 4:56=20 PM
Subject: LF: Sm6BHZ into KL7= just a=20 couple of mins ago...

091111 1644   2 -29 -0.4   0.5039= 25 =20 SM6BHZ JO57 40         = 0 =20 5938    0
 
Delighted over a pretty rough= path at=20 times and higher than normal QRN.
 
Thanks for the early= start=20 Gus
 
Laurence WE2XpQ  KL 1 x
bp51ip Wasilla= Palmer=20 Alaska
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------=_NextPart_000_009D_01CA62F8.CEF49F70-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (rly-mf03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.173]) by air-mf01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF014-94b4afb4d3b176; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:48:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF031-94b4afb4d3b176; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:48:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8MuC-0004vT-9R for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:47:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8MuB-0004vK-T7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:47:15 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8MtV-0001RV-Tt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:46:34 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so1688661bwz.4 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:47:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=B3TR3K2TWpDwNoBYI2gY4n0nBgYwSIrIEOWrKpl5l2I=; b=f1jA1cTmbmIoatTViwzHZP5RSy35m5TMKXFcf2S9CmOYYrOGaHUiI1EhQBCAUSSj+1 dICnI/AhTNeLimv12VllV1EmjdmN+O897PhWTR74CoWwH906eGA8K5Xn3DKK+a1bK7NW L7TveXLCiiQRBtlY739YgCmZFFPJUHqPOF//A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=EFcbjr7sxt58ZhRwt8JnoXOpl6T9aDFzBtS85RtEIyB+7cwxO9yS7Gt0y+e+xwj3V0 c951P3lxSCdchUoh741Qe34ehMcbiXUEhQFCUBHo3qFghLVI22IWD5dXBQ/7olp7BlZK V1IIAtsORe/To5SLTyW+TcioVnZaQtlmkEOM8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.93.2 with SMTP id k2mr661670wef.210.1257983228276; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:47:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4AFB477C.5090604@sighthound.demon.co.uk> References: <4AFB477C.5090604@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:47:08 +0000 Message-ID: <8bf118410911111547u2ade4af3g6bd4b9c74e413648@mail.gmail.com> From: Dave Pick To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d7e3257470a00478210b8e X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d248.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0016e6d7e3257470a00478210b8e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'd noticed that, and checked my TX for hum! Dave. 2009/11/11 John P-G > Jim. LF > > It looks like G7NKS has a 50/100Hz problem on the audio - both in TX and RX > directions - there are up to 3 decodes by Jim of a single station (eg > G3YXM), spaced by 50 & 100Hz and I see also that M0BMU is also reporting > multiple decodes of G7NKS with the same 50/100Hz spacing. > > Jim, have you some mains hum affecting the audio in/out of the PC? > > Cheers, > > John > GM4SLV > > > -- G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK --0016e6d7e3257470a00478210b8e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'd noticed that, and checked my TX for hum!

Dave.

2009/11/11 John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
Jim. LF

It looks like G7NKS has a 50/100Hz problem on the audio - both in TX and= RX directions - there are up to 3 decodes by Jim of a single station (eg= G3YXM), spaced by 50 & 100Hz and I see also that M0BMU is also report= ing multiple decodes of G7NKS with the same 50/100Hz spacing.

Jim, have you some mains hum affecting the audio in/out of the PC?

Cheers,

John
GM4SLV





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--0016e6d7e3257470a00478210b8e-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de07.mx.aol.com (rly-de07.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.143]) by air-de03.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDE031-4ed4b0fe8901bb; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 09:56:44 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE076-4ed4b0fe8901bb; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 09:56:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NE2DM-0005Ji-TS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:54:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NE2DM-0005JZ-Hl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:54:28 +0000 Received: from psmtp30.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NE2DL-0000v4-Po for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:54:28 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp30.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KTR006GWW2A32@psmtp30.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:54:10 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:53:35 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: capt who 27-11 04-45 gmt.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_tPfEnMYaUhqOz9YvjkzK9g)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --Boundary_(ID_tPfEnMYaUhqOz9YvjkzK9g) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_0atVvjSsF8l3+sY/AeZIzg)" --Boundary_(ID_0atVvjSsF8l3+sY/AeZIzg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi LF, capture who? time 04:45 gmt. henny pa3cpm Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: capt who 27-11 04-45 gmt.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. --Boundary_(ID_0atVvjSsF8l3+sY/AeZIzg) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Hi LF,
capture who? time 04:45 gmt.
henny pa3cpm
 
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NC0SL-0003P6-7Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:37:33 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2202.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9DC147000084 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:37:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (12.229.197-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.197.229.12]) by msfrf2202.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 3735B7000081 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:37:23 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091122003723226.3735B7000081@msfrf2202.sfr.fr Message-ID: <000601ca6b0b$f5018410$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:37:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091121-1, 21/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: info F8boj beacon 137776.16hz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01CA6B14.56641D00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01CA6B14.56641D00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HI ALL LF Beacon is open 137776.16hz qrss60..."BOJ" Claude F8boj JN16WA ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01CA6B14.56641D00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
HI ALL LF
Beacon is open 137776.16hz=20 qrss60..."BOJ"
 
Claude F8boj JN16WA
------=_NextPart_000_0003_01CA6B14.56641D00-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD083-b6d4b0863943ab; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:03:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD037-b6d4b0863943ab; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:03:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBy1q-0003Lr-28 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:02:02 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBy1p-0003Li-K2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:02:01 +0000 Received: from nina.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.76]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBy1o-0002OZ-Ld for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:02:01 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by nina.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id nALM1rEu006402 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:31:53 -0330 Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:31:53 -0330 (NST) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <1f0624b90911211347o1e065203o6a2d769222f770b7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <4B04EADA.4090707@telus.net> <57a24ca70911190525s5bbf2768gcfe5e7150eb8f784@mail.gmail.com> <20091121211012.fehyrbxl4400ckc8@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <1f0624b90911211347o1e065203o6a2d769222f770b7@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: temporary grabber Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Many thank, Gary. Actually, I've been using your grabber for weeks. Very useful! 73 Joe On Sat, 21 Nov 2009, Gary - G4WGT wrote: > Hi Joe, > > Copy here in NW UK also at 2142utc. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT > > > 2009/11/21 > >> Thanks, Rik. >> >> It appears as the signals are there already. >> >> 73 >> Joe >> >> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009, Rik Strobbe wrote: >> >> In the mean time, VX9MRC is presently on 507.77 kHz transmitting QRSS10 >>>> >>> >>> Hello Joe, >>> >>> I have set up a temporary 507.77 kHz grabber at >>> http://www.strobbe.eu/argo/argo.jpg >>> >>> 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >>> >>> >> > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME104-9d44af2a09232e; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:53:48 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME088-9d44af2a09232e; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:53:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N5z10-0000hO-0K for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:52:26 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N5z0z-0000hF-FJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:52:25 +0000 Received: from psmtp12.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.24]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N5z0x-00059i-RR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:52:25 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp12.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KSM000NWRF3D2@psmtp12.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:52:16 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:51:23 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <36F0AC319F8D4DA2B15968DBEB9CDEBD@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: BOJ 04-11.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_UQVzQy09YVGgv/GkWOMpuw)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Boundary_(ID_UQVzQy09YVGgv/GkWOMpuw) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_iOvWEjgWCHIEUGubkNWkSA)" --Boundary_(ID_iOvWEjgWCHIEUGubkNWkSA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi LF, Capture BOJ, Henny pa3cpm best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: BOJ 04-11.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. --Boundary_(ID_iOvWEjgWCHIEUGubkNWkSA) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Hi LF,
Capture BOJ,
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Mike Looked for a couple hours but no joy. Storms off the atlantic coast causing significant static. All's quiet with the rx antenna switched to the west. Not a good night for T/A. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Dennison" To: Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 12:09 PM Subject: LF: Test 136.318 >I am testing this evening by sending 'X' at QRSS120 on 136.3180kHz. > If all goes well I will transmit until about 2230UTC. This is a > preliminary soak test prior to some overnight transmissions later in > the week. > > Thanks to F5VLF for the report on my QRSS60 transmission earlier. > > Mike, G3XDV > ========== > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC013-b3a4aed52488d; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 04:18:15 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC086-b3a4aed52488d; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 04:18:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N4WYc-0002w8-Ae for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 09:17:06 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N4WYb-0002vz-Fp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 09:17:05 +0000 Received: from mx02.tut.by ([195.137.160.44] helo=tut.by) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N4WYN-0005jL-9c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 09:16:53 +0000 Received: from [195.137.160.40] (HELO cluster-ldap.tutby.com) by tut.by (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.1) with SMTP id 482111492 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 11:16:46 +0200 X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: ew6gb@tut.by X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 10525 [Nov 01 2009] X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Rate: 0 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0284], KAS30/Release Received: from [93.85.194.182] (account ew6gb@tut.by HELO [93.85.194.182]) by cluster-ldap.tutby.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.12) with ESMTPA id 37175394 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 11:16:49 +0200 Message-ID: <4AED5201.5060006@tut.by> Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 11:16:49 +0200 From: Andrej User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: What is this?? [137 khz] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) GA Dave, LF > Curious UNID signal centred on 137.705 kHz, captured at 2130, but has been coming and goinf for several hours. U I thiught that it might have been local to me, but I see it on Markus's grabber too. See upper 2 lines. Full message was: OH5UFO LOC KP11OO TEST Reino was audible in KO45CN last evening. 73! EW6GB From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me10.mx.aol.com (rly-me10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.44]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME054-9e14b092f7a1fa; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:33:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME105-9e14b092f7a1fa; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:32:59 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCBbo-0002lr-4M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:32:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCBbn-0002li-Ma for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:32:03 +0000 Received: from nina.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.76]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCBbm-0003rW-Lg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:32:03 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by nina.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id nAMCVtlb004665 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:01:55 -0330 Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:01:55 -0330 (NST) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: VX9MRC_in_OK Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-1719232024-856287357-1258893115=:31205" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ---1719232024-856287357-1258893115=:31205 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Hi Lubos, The captures, frequency and element lengths all match and the TX was active at the time of your reception. I am pleased to confirm your reception! 73 Joe On Sun, 22 Nov 2009, Lubos OK2BVG wrote: > > Hello Joe, LF! > I tried to receive on 507.775kHz and I was successfull - see captures.= I think, it might be the first report of MRC=B4s signal in OK, so I am ve= ry pleased (Can you confirm it, Joe?). I will be ready next night as well. > > Aerial: LF-Amrad (home made) > RX: SPM-30 with selective preamplifier (home made) > > 73! > > Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows 7: Zjedodu=B9te si ka=BEdodenn=ED =FAkoly. Kter=FD po=E8=EDta=E8= je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD? > http://windows.microsoft.com/shop ---1719232024-856287357-1258893115=:31205-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v125.8) with ESMTP id MAILINMG032-9fa4afad8d03c1; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:31:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG024-9fa4afad8d03c1; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:31:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8F9W-0002v8-9Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:30:34 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8F9V-0002uz-UB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:30:33 +0000 Received: from ham2.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.16.179] ident=postfix) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8F9R-0003ku-3q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:30:33 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5956A9EA83 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:30:28 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at ham2.cc.fer.hr Received: from ham2.cc.fer.hr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ham2.cc.fer.hr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XGh77ctFVdeW for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:30:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from 9a0tcp.ampr.org (ham1.cc.fer.hr [161.53.16.178]) by ham2.cc.fer.hr (Postfix) with SMTP id 1FEAA9EA82 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:30:28 +0100 (CET) X-BBS-Msg-Type: P Date: Wed, 11 Nov 09 16:20:48 +0100 Message-Id: <2371_9A0TCP@hamradio> From: yo2is@9a0tcp.ampr.org (Szigy) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: st OE-YO on 137 KHz... X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit rom: YO2IS Pleased to be back in the VLF trafic, last night we completed a nice QRSS3 QSO with OE5ODL, Ossy had a solid signal on my K9AY loop with the PA0RDT preamp and a VLF/14 MHz conv. into IC-7000 and Argo 1.34 on a 400 MHz w.98se machine. Am glad to run skeds, QRG 137.763 KHz 73 Szigy. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD082-8f64af6bd2f33d; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:44:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD036-8f64af6bd2f33d; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:44:33 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7772-00066e-Je for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:43:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7772-00066V-4w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:43:20 +0000 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.186]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7763-0008Qe-Dp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:42:20 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.64] (188-221-89-85.zone12.bethere.co.uk [188.221.89.85]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MZysF-1MqOmF2r6N-00LVHF; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:43:12 +0100 From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:43:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4AF6BCE7.28946.168E131@dave.davesergeant.com> In-reply-to: <019f01ca6061$34a80040$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <019f01ca6061$34a80040$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.51) Content-description: Mail message body X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/sNrarIMdTIofkrGLy0JSZG3b5TRMnqBWXUVV QnXlDi6XafQmepNIRpJLU7RUFtvduJO/Q7+S0ZnseiIEUDvh5N dKcFppdtbonmGYvG2VxQeyziC7oXi0C X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WSPR Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 On 8 Nov 2009 at 10:49, mal hamilton wrote: > WSPR is like a LAZY MAN using a WALKING STICK !!!!!! > G3KEV > Since I have now changed my vertical to a 160m one and won't be on 500kHz until the spring I shall now be unsubscribing from this list for the time being. 73 Dave G3YMC http://www.davesergeant.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg12.mx.aol.com (rly-dg12.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.96]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG074-60e4af48c9e39c; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:53:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG125-60e4af48c9e39c; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:52:48 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6Vma-0006PI-To for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:51:44 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6Vma-0006P9-81 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:51:44 +0000 Received: from mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.47]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6VmW-00058P-V8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:51:43 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.1]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091106205135.OLQZ17029.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 20:51:35 +0000 Received: from [86.27.93.99] (helo=jimdesk) by know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6VmR-0001eD-3y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:51:35 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: References: <9afca2640911060845r17eb75daracad4f874c3a1c9c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 20:51:33 -0000 Message-ID: <001e01ca5f22$ec89c8a0$0617aac0@jimdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <9afca2640911060845r17eb75daracad4f874c3a1c9c@mail.gmail.com> Thread-Index: AcpfANmrJD5svWuVTNimu9mgaO/I+QAIOdUg X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=yRNOrxR5oUYA:10 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=fnYqA7hvAAAA:8 a=j6Q1dnSHAAAA:8 a=1XLbTVPQbCnreGn2TE0A:9 a=GPhipbhWb2RzmY3oCdcA:7 a=BjsLRpkuF1Pg2McoB6RUtezPdMUA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=gA6IeH5FQcgA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 a=nokx4-U_Vn_8P93Y:21 a=kEQlG8njoTSnsovZ:21 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=G0SVe0yW0fni6X1cu5IA:7 a=2kdb_T4Wx2JiaKVlTCs11zGO-sQA:4 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: G3XBM: 500kHz ERP increased by 6dB - WSPR reports please Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001F_01CA5F22.EC89C8A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01CA5F22.EC89C8A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Roger! Well done! You are booming into Biggleswade! You used to be in the -20db and below zone now its -11 and better. Uber QRO and you make me look very QRPp!! My problem is down to lack of vertical height (5.5M) and lousy earth (50 ohm at a guesstimate). I'm going to ask Santa for 2 sets of swaged poles to give me 40' height and then run a lot more earths and radials out. With that I calculate I can go from about 0.1% eff up to 2% and get abt 500mW erp. With best regards Jim Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Roger Lapthorn Sent: 06 November 2009 16:46 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: G3XBM: 500kHz ERP increased by 6dB - WSPR reports please Today I modified my 500kHz antenna. The 28MHz halo up at the top of the 5-6m vertical section (which was the coax feed to the 28MHz halo) was removed and replaced by a spiral inductance/ top capacity hat consisting of around around 8 "spiralling in" turns in the space occupied by the original halo. Seeing my initial reports from M0BMU I am some 5-6dB stronger than I was before, I guess because more of the antenna current is in the vertical section. The measured antenna current is not much different though. Please listen for me on 500kHz WSPR and let me know if I am now stronger than before. 73s Roger G3XBM -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01CA5F22.EC89C8A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01CA5F22.EC89C8A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB052-ad74af6c49e2a7; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:16:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB075-ad74af6c49e2a7; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:16:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N77bx-0006E0-Kr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:15:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N77bx-0006Dr-2A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) My WSPR 0.2W ERP signal was copied by GM0LLJ (774km) at 12:58 UTC 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDB084-ae24b0c57362f7; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:59:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB088-ae24b0c57362f7; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:59:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ND3Ov-0007hj-6g for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:58:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ND3Ou-0007ha-NU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:58:20 +0000 Received: from impaqm5.telefonica.net ([213.4.138.5]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ND3Ot-0004Km-9c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:58:20 +0000 Received: from IMPmailhost2.adm.correo ([10.20.102.39]) by IMPaqm5.telefonica.net with bizsmtp id 962U1d00w0r0BT63R9yH2j; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:58:17 +0100 Received: from PC2 ([88.24.228.214]) by IMPmailhost2.adm.correo with BIZ IMP id 99yG1d00j4eB4dk1i9yHZZ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:58:17 +0100 X-TE-authinfo: authemail="JPRADOES$telefonica.net" |auth_email="JPRADOES@telefonica.net" X-TE-AcuTerraCos: auth_cuTerraCos="cosuitneta01" Message-ID: <3D48C18C8EEF43B7B5A27EBA3AD28E6D@PC2> From: "Jose Manuel" To: References: <774E21EDD9DB4D8292615A728F4050AF@AGB> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:58:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: STANAG .. What software is this showing ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002A_01CA6D59.9338A380" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_60_70, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01CA6D59.9338A380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable SkySweeper http://www.pervisell.com/ham/skysweeper/ Best regards de Jos=E9, EA1PX ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:42 PM Subject: LF: STANAG .. What software is this showing ?? STANAG .. What software is this showing ?? tnx - G ..=20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DxUeTE21RUMM ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01CA6D59.9338A380 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Best regards de Jos=E9, EA1PX<= /DIV>
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Graham
Sent: Tuesday, November 24,= 2009 10:42=20 PM
Subject: LF: STANAG .. What= software is=20 this showing ??

STANAG .. What software is this&nbs= p; showing=20 ??
 
tnx - G ..
 
 


------=_NextPart_000_002A_01CA6D59.9338A380-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc03.mx.aol.com (rly-mc03.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.87]) by air-mc03.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMC034-d614b12c379c3; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:55:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC031-d614b12c379c3; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:54:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEou8-00039i-02 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:53:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEou7-00039Z-F5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:53:51 +0000 Received: from n21.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.160]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEou6-00045H-VI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:53:51 +0000 Received: from [68.142.200.226] by n21.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2009 18:53:44 -0000 Received: from [68.142.201.250] by t7.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2009 18:53:44 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp411.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2009 18:53:44 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 457818.97727.bm@omp411.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 65374 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2009 18:53:44 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=1Qbvskv+zdEkpZrAJPH1hk/woGY5pmMi7m7AFTwnQhA4f6N19MtMtbuxYBlbeLCx+5E+nX9R+7e+BMwN7iwQsuPMzXpvZWfh3Q/XcJPX0b+Rc02oAR3IXgIOJDTEpGdFOiZWBvPPmGpxuTVT/k1fMDIpWFZ8P1oWdnnGWK2Z6Eo= ; Received: from host86-138-92-60.range86-138.btcentralplus.com (ken.h.wright@86.138.92.60 with login) by smtp135.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2009 10:53:43 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: 9Y6mUHuswBAgnrOsukIiNdFDf95uy_Dz34nY1hlg2liKgYD952sjbg-- X-YMail-OSG: 7LqH6hsVM1nIyFNRAPvGeKjAQ4UP3GqrB37voizjxZLKqbzWcuFRqfUo7UkcEaiQ76xFE7aAbWqob9IXvTqMz3M0hrjZuaSEIWj2fGj0HZ.OVo5jXQtg14U_oQvxS_v5asd5P3W8UWMWkG_oRQrYA8zxkf.LgWmJVtQFCZACRCbKXz1NmNlr56.GmGfMqJTYtFSSoeOzCQ2cpqeWFJDxw_GqRGKWayP0aWovrX4XZB2UuqP7JwbscOa5JPBluVA6b2qI5skfabe4WBXKFjHvgbT0UhnNVHkHI_VcKFdLgR0.tfenu1XgooJlCVr.p72LdzP1PMaHaO74x9Zz0eyj_hGeyUE6iKI- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <9F3AD1B305084F15AA47A8061538AD5F@lindavideo> From: "Ken" To: References: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AA6D@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:53:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: Re: AW: 4kv diode Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01CA7125.44A19810" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01CA7125.44A19810 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1258" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Stefan. Thanks Stefan, do you have a source for either the BV8 or the BV16?,= I have been unable to find one. 73 Ken M0KHW ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 6:05 PM Subject: LF: AW: 4kv diode=20 Hi Ken,=20 My hint is to try a BV8 Diode. It is able to take 500mA. On my work,= I have good experiences with the BV16, the 16kV Version.=20 Each one costs abt 1=80. Three in parallel, thermal coupled, should= be no problem at all. And: there=B4s no need for extra cooling! 73, Stefan=20 -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@= blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Ken Gesendet: Sonntag, 29. November 2009 12:05 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: 4kv diode=20 Hello All. I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or equivalent diode, BY4 4kv @ 1A,= BY6 6kv @ 1A, I have searched the web and looked in Farnell, any ide= as please. 73. Ken M0KHW =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01CA7125.44A19810 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1258" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Stefan.
Thanks Stefan, do you have a source= for either the=20 BV8 or the BV16?, I have been unable to find one.
 
73
Ken
M0KHW
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 20= 09 6:05=20 PM
Subject: LF: AW: 4kv diode

Hi Ken,=20

My hint is=20 to try a BV8 Diode. It is able to take 500mA. On my work, I have goo= d=20 experiences with the BV16, the 16kV Version.

Each one=20 costs abt 1=80. Three in parallel, thermal coupled, should be no pro= blem at all.=20 And: there=B4s no need for extra cooling!

 

73, Stefan=20

 

-= ----Urspr=FCngliche=20 Nachricht-----
Von: owner-rsg= b_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Ken
Gesendet: Sonntag, 29. November 2009= =20 12:05
An:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: 4kv diode

 

Hel= lo All.

I= am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or=20 equivalent diode, BY4   4kv @ 1A, BY6  6kv @ 1A, I ha= ve=20 searched the web and looked in Farnell, any ideas=20 please.

 

73.=

Ken=

 

M0K= HW   

= ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01CA7125.44A19810-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com (rly-md01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.139]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD102-8e44b09e0f2267; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:10:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD014-8e44b09e0f2267; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:10:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCNQR-00070d-1b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:09:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCNQQ-00070U-Bz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:09:06 +0000 Received: from smtp831.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.189.245]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCNQP-00076N-NJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:09:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 71520 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2009 01:09:00 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=Rkvv5jpnHsDJ0FUU28cKo6NPIT48Db73rnsrtTcH6WCl/pFSlh6cU9QzeTtKHXBYkCZiulIWuL+4ubr8m5BFN9dogle2nSQ17Wo3thFwh9UUT44Q69j53dYdTZKT6riw5PUAZGiFIzQXHyr6gen8/MqJdMEMjkPEb8ZEKAtNbFc= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@213.122.2.44 with login) by smtp831.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Nov 2009 01:08:59 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: KHdpK2OswBBXlm4uxknbEiS4uYdJoGknHN90u4K8__lTafnafZg- X-YMail-OSG: QDldvMIVM1lW4zCkMeEpFI_jJ8Wy6hAxorIWz.oyDasecNe9sgMuKlH3nL9rr.LPZaJ1kUG08QZmgT4TPkhx_XCuyV8.xt9cv3fC8vn35.mIvl1PhmlMRXvi9hQjNWeE1bYMYxM6UgWx8PBqB1OPggPhg.lFZxaa2YO0GCIvBBhngzrJtW5x6iaTeWH7rLrjEZ7ZKklfh3vEdB7iqH2juJb6Kwhx3V0Hx4toVijCQrKkW4Hw3g3Z_ekEWAWB81ulQvltvFYAh0byZzDMgvwjWNDgYaUTH.cpaT9paEdMSUrsOVsBe5dAW3_DA0K50Vb9mwQTcxJBMVsIfMTVYb4- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <006101ca6bd9$9ab3cb70$0900a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <4B09D502.8030200@toya.net.pl> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:09:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: N-turn TX Loop Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Piotr I think Laurence KL1X had 2 turns in Oklahoma.(about 100m periphery) I think there are other loss problems as you increase the turns. Jim M0BMU is the expert on that. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Piotr MÅ‚ynarski" To: Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 12:19 AM Subject: LF: N-turn TX Loop > Dear LF group, > I would like to put for your consideration the issue of > multi-turn transmitting loops. Have you ever done such an experiment on > LF ? > This sunday evening i decided to do some simple math and it turns out > that such a N-turn TX loop should work ( at least on the paper) > The radiation resistance is proportional to the square of so called > "effective > height" and this last term can be easily derived for a loop i.e. it is > equal to > 2*pi*A*N/lambda where A denotes area closed by a loop a N is the number > of turns > so the radiation resistance for a single turn loop reads as > 320*pi^4*A^2/lambda^4 > For the N-turns the radiation resistance obtained for a single turn is > multiplied > by N^2. Ok, the R (ac) is increased as we increase N but this is linear > with respect to N > and therefore we should have gain in the radiated power. > (there is an implicit assumption made: the loop is "small" i.e. the > current is constant) > > i did some calculations: assumed TX power ( and later, perfect match to > the loop) 200 Watt > environmental loss: 1.5 Ohm, diameter of the wire d = 3 mm, rectangular > shape of the loop > i.e 10 meters by 20 meters ( less optimal than square or circle ) > so A = 200 sq.m For N =1 (classical tx loop) we get R(AC) = 0.62 Ohm > ( Rac formula taken from ARRL Antenna Handbook, f = 137.7kHz) > radiation resistance RRAD = 55.5 microOhm, total R loss = 2.12 Ohm, > efficiency is 0.0026% and radiated pwr 5.2 miliWatts, I = 9.7 Amp. > Next, I took N =3 so the wire length is changed from 60 meters to 180, > everything else was kept the same and now one gets: R(ac)= 1.85 Ohm so > R loss = 3.35 Ohm > RRAD = 499.5 microOhm, efficiency increased to 0.015% and radiated pwr > abt 30 miliWatt, I=7.7 Amp > I am sorry bothering you but i simply would like to learn > where is the 'catch' here - if there is one ... > I guess the assumed loop i.e. 10 by 20 mters is 'reasonable' as TX antenna > i took these values after reading the article about > WD2XES first TX loop: 40 feet by 65 feet - well , almost the same > dimensions.. :) > From practical reasons the N values will likely be small , say, 2 or 3 > but as the above numbers show maybe it is worth doing it. > > 73 de Piotr, sq7mpj > qth: Lodz /jo91rs/ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc07.mx.aol.com (rly-mc07.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.91]) by air-mc07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC074-d844afb4a99168; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:37:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC074-d844afb4a99168; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:36:59 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8MjK-0004oO-FI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:36:02 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8MjJ-0004oF-SH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:36:01 +0000 Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8MjH-0007hv-A4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:36:01 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.4]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091111233047.WKOD27507.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:30:47 +0000 Received: from [86.27.93.99] (helo=jimdesk) by know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8MeE-0006aX-HS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:30:47 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: References: <4AFB477C.5090604@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:30:45 -0000 Message-ID: <001501ca6326$ff28c710$0617aac0@jimdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <4AFB477C.5090604@sighthound.demon.co.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcpjJiCUVpv+6ORETz60ivwNrD+T3QAAEduw X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IzQzauw1qIUA:10 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=00naLo0xKZOgAdwqhzUA:9 a=8DbnlhkFnFKLUAGkE9I21ftq1tcA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi John I'll have a look see. I've noticed on strong sigs from me (few and far between!) I get multiple decodes +50 and -50. I'm not aware of any obvious mains hum if I monitor my outgoing sigs and all leads are wound on ferrite cores, but clearly something is amiss. I shall look into it and see what I can find Cheers for the heads up With best regards Jim Dr. James Cowburn -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John P-G Sent: 11 November 2009 23:24 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! Jim. LF It looks like G7NKS has a 50/100Hz problem on the audio - both in TX and RX directions - there are up to 3 decodes by Jim of a single station (eg G3YXM), spaced by 50 & 100Hz and I see also that M0BMU is also reporting multiple decodes of G7NKS with the same 50/100Hz spacing. Jim, have you some mains hum affecting the audio in/out of the PC? Cheers, John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD053-b5b4b06d28a5b; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:32:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD015-b5b4b06d28a5b; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:31:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBXJx-00088v-UZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:30:57 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBXJx-00088m-Hv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:30:57 +0000 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBXJw-0003G8-Pr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:30:57 +0000 Received: from aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091120172551.EICI17277.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:25:51 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.33] (really [82.22.242.219]) by aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20091120172551.XLNG13254.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.2.33]> for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:25:51 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:25:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4B06D112.5516.96A9A90@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> In-reply-to: <001d01ca6a04$dad11770$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> References: <4B06C48F.27981.939B9FD@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com>, <001d01ca6a04$dad11770$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=9YlaCzn6_68A:10 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=1pC5q-N2VozTBwC0HIkA:9 a=8PDszOBc9CqQhSJH5_XD64mUx54A:4 a=_dQi-Dcv4p4A:10 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Test now 136.320 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 No problem. Now transmitting on 136.320kHz Mike, G3XDV ========== > Right on top of the Russian and other stn DX window. Move down to the > low end of the band out of the way. G3KEV > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Dennison" > To: > Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 4:32 PM > Subject: LF: Test transmissions > > > > After a major refurbishment of my lounge/office/shack, I have > > finally rebuilt my 136kHz station. > > > > To check reliability of the Tx at low speeds, I am transmitting > > using QRSS30 on 137.776kHz this evening (Friday). Please email if I > > am causing QRM to anyone listening for DX. I will switch off at > > around 2230UTC. > > > > Mike, G3XDV > > ========= > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc03.mx.aol.com (rly-mc03.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.87]) by air-mc07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC071-d624af29b232ef; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:30:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC032-d624af29b232ef; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:30:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N5ydo-0000TQ-2C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:28:28 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N5ydn-0000TH-C6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:28:27 +0000 Received: from smtp23.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.22]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N5ydl-0004vZ-2O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:28:27 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2314.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7A7DA7000082 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:28:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (145.220.195-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.195.220.145]) by msfrf2314.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id D20497000085 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:28:16 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091105092816860.D20497000085@msfrf2314.sfr.fr Message-ID: <001901ca5dfa$4e55bf50$0201a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:28:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091104-1, 04/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: dk7fc.....f8boj beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01CA5E02.AF94A3A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01CA5E02.AF94A3A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HI LF and DK7FC=20 Hello stefan open the beacon to day for 137705.0hz qrss3=20 very good day Claude F8boj JN16WA ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01CA5E02.AF94A3A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Claude F8boj JN16WA
------=_NextPart_000_0016_01CA5E02.AF94A3A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb08.mx.aol.com (rly-mb08.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.166]) by air-mb08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB081-d244b072e03362; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:02:28 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB088-d244b072e03362; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:02:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBdPf-0002Qw-3k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:01:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBdPe-0002Qn-KU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:01:14 +0000 Received: from web63602.mail.re1.yahoo.com ([69.147.97.72]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBdPc-0003mZ-81 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:01:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 67182 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Nov 2009 00:01:05 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1258761665; bh=MgErNGHC3IXCU8cBVLE9YwZpQHxyyuWYFlB/b4wtwUY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=bVBdh1DXLKMoeEckZqollrE/MnehHVFEmmOHRFuXTBQTJZiNLaAm6upYgN7kuFIr6yeYYIq9qF4TQRJItUQgovOAS2C+FJmw3lXfxk172jGueUT34vazmeW+xtxBfT4N24Simf79zL1V5ZX1nbu5umwp3v5Q/R27LSw4CFpFl6Q= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=csTqpUhmdliCk+iYHtNkORrAy9w4i7QEyQ5HT+MenyQra2ALo2jjlZ6c72G1Hk03/aumGBTu217w3GTB9HgWAua0AihpgjqywenjF0+YF3uwK+dHaFJqvTNW0JTiS6Bi5nskm7E3CCO6iGhiZVCR1jxl2UxcCX4ksQtI86nZdB0=; Message-ID: <124359.67090.qm@web63602.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: DEPVvXAVM1m9ufU5G610VBZbGgwXwuiJY4rhTDVErerRAh37afb7xLtseMRJP0gTTCscVG_HKcrrn3LYXSi5.jxIn8zWujN_e0Uv1iYUJVZYaODQURAIEbH6_m.KYQKayKvkH6f18shhrK7SjVWCJXY.Pg_UxaOIc.Wiclvmc15152p4z.F31jOVonbqXxEGPCqtR6dknQN0k6Aa3X0MSg7CkHegEFPU5lz_3hhDaQGArQFmmx0_Ys1k5YTTg._UTeaSEX3BOsseUHKbmfYoha2DNSnn7pdmSL2EV4pSVrcR2oE4SLUYBiXXIvtsjWBiVI3Fq5O1Pn9NUDTlrIsmtGLu4_kXg5u1JSsMliJQV1LdWGLz Received: from [97.89.42.135] by web63602.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:01:04 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:01:04 -0800 (PST) From: Andy - KU4XR To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <008801ca6a1b$d6a66210$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR BEACONS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d306.2 ; domain : yahoo.com DKIM : pass --- On Fri, 11/20/09, mal hamilton wrote: ****** snippet ****** > a cw QSO operator in real time can qsy to take evasive=20 > action and avoid qrm to others on adjacent frequencies. > G3KEV ***** end snippet ****** By Jove !! is it possible that he finally " GOT IT " ??? heavens to wonders !! Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN. LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 185.29866 KHz ( QRSS-60 ) Coordinates: N: 35* 43' 54" - W: 84* 3' 16" http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr --- On Fri, 11/20/09, mal hamilton wrote: > From: mal hamilton > Subject: LF: WSPR BEACONS > To: "rsgb" > Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 2:58 PM >=20 >=20 > =20 > =20 >=20 >=20 > =20 > These unattended Beacons > are often a source of QRM=20 > for the CW=A0QSO operator, whereas a cw QSO operator in > real time can qsy to=20 > take evasive action and avoid qrm to others on adjacent=20 > frequencies. > G3KEV > =A0=20 >=20 =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDC052-b2d4b12e5fd275; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:22:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC071-b2d4b12e5fd275; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:22:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NErCh-0004G9-Kb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:21:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NErCh-0004G0-8C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:21:11 +0000 Received: from smtp23.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NErCg-0004lh-Ma for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:21:11 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2312.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E3F117000090 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:21:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (12.5.194-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.194.5.12]) by msfrf2312.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 92195700008A for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:21:02 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091129212102598.92195700008A@msfrf2312.sfr.fr Message-ID: <001801ca7139$d8e15100$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:20:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091129-1, 29/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: f8boj info's Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01CA7142.3A41C710" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01CA7142.3A41C710 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good evening LF beaconing QRSS60 137776.20hz=20 Claude F8boj JN16WA ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01CA7142.3A41C710 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Good evening LF
beaconing QRSS60 137776.20hz <= /DIV>
Claude F8boj JN16WA
------=_NextPart_000_0015_01CA7142.3A41C710-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME044-9d94b091091285; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 05:21:28 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME095-9d94b091091285; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 05:21:07 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NC9YG-0001O3-Kv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:20:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NC9YG-0001Nu-94 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:20:16 +0000 Received: from smtp22.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.11]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NC9YF-0003CD-Mj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:20:16 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2208.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 075F9700009E for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:20:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (155.39.196-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.196.39.155]) by msfrf2208.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id A837D7000097 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:20:09 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091122102009689.A837D7000097@msfrf2208.sfr.fr Message-ID: <000601ca6b5d$5f3bde10$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:20:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091121-1, 21/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: info F8boj Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01CA6B65.C0901F20" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01CA6B65.C0901F20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi ALL TONI and Mike qso 137khz HB9ASB with G3XDV very very good copy Claude JN16WA ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01CA6B65.C0901F20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi ALL TONI and Mike
qso 137khz HB9ASB with G3XDV
very very good copy
Claude JN16WA
------=_NextPart_000_0003_01CA6B65.C0901F20-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDB033-ab74b0e8c673e1; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:11:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB035-ab74b0e8c673e1; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:10:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDf2m-0005IK-VW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:10:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDf2m-0005IA-Fa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:10:00 +0000 Received: from msa-k1.u-netsurf.ne.jp ([202.233.11.14]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from <7l1rll@dp.u-netsurf.ne.jp>) id 1NDf2l-0001MR-Dj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:10:00 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.5] (d82.HkanagawaFL41.vectant.ne.jp [222.230.132.82]) by msa-k1.u-netsurf.ne.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3456349DB for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:09:55 +0900 (JST) From: Rick Wakatori <7l1rll@dp.u-netsurf.ne.jp> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Organization: RLL Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:09:56 +0900 Message-Id: <1259244596.6299.30.camel@vaio3rd> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re:QRSS120 at 137.7KHz Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Laurence(KL1X) and Scott(VE7TIL), Thanks for your responces. My signal does not reach at your side tonight. I have to study much in LF. Antenna current is only 68mA for GP at my home, but I'll try to move to river side in a few days later. -- -.. . --... .-.. .---- .-. .-.. .-.. .-.-. 7L1RLL under ubuntu/Linux in Kawasaki,Japan(JP) URL=http://www1.u-netsurf.ne.jp/~7l1rll/radio.html -..--- -.- .-.. ..-.. --. --. ...- .-... ...-. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA093-8cb4b084e1fa; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:31:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA095-8cb4b084e1fa; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:31:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBwbM-0001pv-UZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:30:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBwbM-0001pm-IS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:30:36 +0000 Received: from mailout03.t-online.de ([194.25.134.81]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBwbM-0001tk-0L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:30:36 +0000 Received: from fwd01.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.t-online.de with smtp id 1NBwbK-0007hD-00; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:30:34 +0100 Received: from e7010 (SsX3w+ZYohZcsJNoRH1n42Edt01HcG01+8krU5Guh8SFKrZZzHEmnJ507LJbfjpZNS@[84.147.245.2]) by fwd01.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1NBwb6-27hbIu0; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:30:20 +0100 Message-ID: <006701ca6ae9$715cc5b0$6402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: References: <000a01ca6ac5$cfc00550$6402a8c0@e7010> <008a01ca6ade$1a837ff0$3ab27cbc@niurhaxf0xcqlj> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:30:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: SsX3w+ZYohZcsJNoRH1n42Edt01HcG01+8krU5Guh8SFKrZZzHEmnJ507LJbfjpZNS X-TOI-MSGID: feb04aa1-6e24-440d-8b8a-a7388675832b X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: DI2AG daylight reports Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Tnx Marcin, fer ur report. No problem with 559Km, would be very glad to have a regular CW-QSO one day with you via that distance :-) 73 Walter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcin" To: Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 8:09 PM Subject: LF: Re: DI2AG daylight reports > Hello Walter! > In Gdansk, Poland: > 1900 -26 -0.6 0.503910 0 DI2AG JN59 27 > Only 559km... > -- > Vy 73! > Marcin SQ2BXI > > > Dear MF, > many thanks for the first WSPR-reports today. > 14:54 PA3FNY 504Km > 15:00 DF8JR 881 " > 15:06 DD7PC 225 " > 15:10 PA0EGO 507 " > 15:26 G3XVL 753 " > > 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (rly-ma03.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.47]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA021-8984b012500292; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:10:17 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA032-8984b012500292; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:10:10 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9yVu-0004UZ-Mk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:08:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9yVu-0004UQ-0x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:08:50 +0000 Received: from rekin26.go2.pl ([193.17.41.76]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9yVr-0006yo-Tm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:08:49 +0000 Received: from rekin26.go2.pl (rekin26.go2.pl [127.0.0.1]) by rekin26.go2.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3271035D7BB for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:08:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from unknown (unknown [10.0.0.74]) by rekin26.go2.pl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:08:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from 58-178-124-188.rev.pro-internet.pl [188.124.178.58] by poczta.o2.pl with ESMTP id UWMnlj; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:08:42 +0100 Message-ID: <003201ca66a4$c5899bc0$3ab27cbc@niurhaxf0xcqlj> From: "Marcin" To: References: <118539074.1258323511.44388760.23420@mcgi76.rambler.ru> <814669796.1258362437.164757368.99545@mcgi38.rambler.ru> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:08:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-O2-Trust: 2, 62 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF:SP2KDS Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Roman, LF Thank you for raport. -- Vy 73! Marcin SQ2BXI > Hi Marcin, LF! > TNX for attempt to tx in QRSS-60. > You'll see I rx your "S" only. > Full report into 136 part qrss.nm.ru as usual. > > * Roman RW3ADB [Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:18:31 +0300]: > > > > Hi Marcin, LF! > > Poor trace 137.706.0 into mode-10 into my location today > > http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/16nov2009_SP2KDS/135.58W_10_00035.jpg > > > 73! > -- > Roman RW3ADB. > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (rly-mf05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.175]) by air-mf02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF024-9624aff3502b; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:54:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF058-9624aff3502b; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:53:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9RUT-0001h7-HI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:53:09 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9RUT-0001gy-31 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:53:09 +0000 Received: from mcgi38.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.217]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9RUR-0006fE-MW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:53:09 +0000 Received: from mcgi38.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi38.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDF2A1146E for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 01:53:01 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [81.195.15.221] by mcgi38.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Sun, 15 Nov 2009 01:52:56 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: rsgb Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 01:52:56 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <287859382.1258239176.158750212.87677@mcgi38.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Grabber is ON Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Chris, Peter, LF! My grabber started on up to finished your activity. qrss.nm.ru -> grabber. Looking to 501.2-501.36 and 502.0 Whats a real freq, Peter? -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db04.mx.aol.com (rly-db04.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.79]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDB081-ac24b12fd39193; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:01:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB048-ac24b12fd39193; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:01:14 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEskP-0004jr-OY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:00:05 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEskP-0004ji-4C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:00:05 +0000 Received: from mx75.mail.ru ([94.100.176.90]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEskM-0005uj-MH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:00:05 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=60012 helo=EFREMOV) by mx75.mail.ru with asmtp id 1NEskG-000Cau-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Claude Here now a dirty air( 73 Andrey > Good evening Andrey > Many thanks for the openning your grabber > y copy my traces very well > thanks you very match also for the Markus DF6NM grabber > and F1afj JPierre good night for all > Claude F8boj JN16wa From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (rly-mg10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.116]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG082-a384b02e590f5; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:04:46 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG102-a384b02e590f5; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:04:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NASO9-0004m3-JV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:02:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NASO9-0004lu-3C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1026257346-1258480962=:30151" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d263.2 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-1026257346-1258480962=:30151 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tnx Alberto =A0 I think the SR front end is quite wide infact so it would be really good= to have so much BW. Anyway=A0its not a problem to broarden the F/E filter= ing. Currently use same input for Rx on 3.5 through 10 megs and my guess= is with degraded performance it would do 14megs as well. =A0 Yep I have a choise of SC=A0ASIO driver for the current arrangement. I hav= e to say that when all else fails Winrad just ploughs on such a robust app= lication. =A0 I currently integrate=A0all my Data applications with SDR on RX via=A0a VA= C=A0a very=A0neat arrangement no messy multiple PC connectivity!. Built an= RXTX some time ago and now working on=A0Data TX side of things. =A0 Anyway thanks again info well receiver here.=A0=A0=A0 73 petefmt=A0 --- On Tue, 17/11/09, Alberto di Bene wrote: From: Alberto di Bene Subject: Re: LF: G7NKS - Double Side Band: wspr? To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tuesday, 17 November, 2009, 16:45 M0FMT wrote:=20 Veeeery interesting Alberto =A0 Would that give me 192 Kc/s of tunable band width on my SDR radio given th= e right software? There has been a lot of debate on the softrock reflector but this one seem= s to quite good. Do you have first hand experience of it? Christmas is com= ing ...hee hee. =A0 73 petefmt Pete, =A0 yes, I have one and I am quite satisfied with it. It can sample at 192= kHz, so it will give you from -96 to +96 kHz of band around the center frequency tuned with the Softrock. Assuming of course th= at the low pass filters of the Softrock let such a large portion of the spectrum pass unaffected... usually they cut at a= value rather lower than that.... you will probably=20 have to change some capacitors. The fact that it does not need an external power supply is handy too... A suggestion : if you will use Winrad for it, set it to use the ASIO drive= rs to interface the card. You will then fully benefit of the 24-bit amplitude resolution. 73=A0 Alberto=A0 i2PHD =20 --0-1026257346-1258480962=:30151 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tnx Alberto
 
I think the SR front end is quite wide infact so it would be really= good to have so much BW. Anyway its not a problem to broarden the F/= E filtering. Currently use same input for Rx on 3.5 through 10 megs and my= guess is with degraded performance it would do 14megs as well.
 
Yep I have a choise of SC ASIO driver for the current arrangemen= t. I have to say that when all else fails Winrad just ploughs on such a ro= bust application.
 
I currently integrate all my Data applications with SDR on RX vi= a a VAC a very neat arrangement no messy multiple PC connec= tivity!. Built an RXTX some time ago and now working on Data TX side= of things.
 
Anyway thanks again info well receiver here.    73 pet= efmt 

--- On Tue, 17/11/09, Alberto di Bene <dibene@u= sa.net> wrote:

From: Alberto di Bene <dibene@usa.net>Subject: Re: LF: G7NKS - Double Side Band: wspr?
To: rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.org
Date: Tuesday, 17 November, 2009, 16:45

M0FMT wrote:=20
Veeeery interesting Alberto
 
Would that give me 192 Kc/s of tunable band width on my SDR radio= given the right software?
There has been a lot of debate on the softro= ck reflector but this one seems to quite good. Do you have first hand expe= rience of it? Christmas is coming ...hee hee.
 
73 petefmt

Pete,

  yes, I have one and I am quite satisfied with it. It= can sample at 192 kHz, so it will give you from -96 to +96 kHz of bandaround the center frequency tuned with the Softrock. Assuming of course= that the low pass filters of the Softrock let such
a large portion of= the spectrum pass unaffected... usually they cut at a value rather lower= than that.... you will probably
have to change some capacitors.
The fact that it does not need an external power supply is handy too...<= BR>
A suggestion : if you will use Winrad for it, set it to use the ASI= O drivers to interface the card. You will then fully benefit
of the 24-= bit amplitude resolution.

73  Alberto  i2PHD


=20 --0-1026257346-1258480962=:30151-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de12.mx.aol.com (rly-de12.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.148]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE052-5214b0ad1be90; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:17:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE128-5214b0ad1be90; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:17:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCdSP-00020F-HG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:16:13 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCdSP-000206-3a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:16:13 +0000 Received: from mailout10.t-online.de ([194.25.134.21]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCdSN-0004Qm-0v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:16:13 +0000 Received: from fwd08.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.t-online.de with smtp id 1NCdSL-0005wy-04; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:16:09 +0100 Received: from e7010 (SrH0OrZcwhsqHYoYhzr+kgVhe0YhKpqaptnkEhvxIJVJkoxAn3L+eS0362RpoFYgNS@[84.147.241.201]) by fwd08.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1NCdS8-295wf20; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:15:56 +0100 Message-ID: <003601ca6c69$02c4ac90$6402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:15:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: SrH0OrZcwhsqHYoYhzr+kgVhe0YhKpqaptnkEhvxIJVJkoxAn3L+eS0362RpoFYgNS X-TOI-MSGID: e8c948b4-31b7-44ca-bbf8-00d1bf0b6e41 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: DI2AG WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0033_01CA6C71.6140A050" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01CA6C71.6140A050 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear MF,=20 due to strong winds and danger of antenna destruction DI2AG= will not go on air this night. Thanks to the many reports last two ni= ghts. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01CA6C71.6140A050 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear MF,
      &= nbsp; =20 due to strong winds and danger of antenna destruction DI2AG will not= go on air=20 this night. Thanks to the many reports last two nights.
73   Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF
 
------=_NextPart_000_0033_01CA6C71.6140A050-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me04.mx.aol.com (rly-me04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.38]) by air-me06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME064-9b44b07d87a40; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 07:09:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME048-9b44b07d87a40; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 07:09:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBolW-00055w-Gw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:08:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBolW-00055n-6J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:08:34 +0000 Received: from fmailhost04.isp.att.net ([207.115.11.54]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBolV-0007RW-Ht for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:08:34 +0000 Received: from [10.0.252.100] (166-82-181-251.stanlynet.org?[166.82.181.251]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc04) with ESMTP id <20091121120824H0400sk4mce>; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:08:26 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [166.82.181.251] Message-ID: <4B07D832.10708@att.net> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 07:08:18 -0500 From: Dexter McIntyre W4DEX User-Agent: Messenger 9.0a1 (Windows/20071115) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= References: <4B07ABA4.4060102@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <4B07ABA4.4060102@online.fr> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: LF T/A [137 kHz] good conditions ! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Jean-Pierre, Thank you for the report! The coil is looking rather poor due to years of UV exposure but evidently it still works. Thanks for maintaining your 137 KHz grabber. Dex, WD2XKO Jean-Pierre Méré (F1AFJ) wrote: > This Morning : > XKO (WD2XKO) qrss60 > > Dex, pse look on my grabber , your sig are vy strong ! > Thank you to be returned on 137 Khz ! From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (rly-ma06.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.50]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA052-8b44b08983a24d; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:48:00 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA066-8b44b08983a24d; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:47:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NC1Wn-00065l-Sz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:46:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NC1Wn-00065c-G0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:46:13 +0000 Received: from smtp23.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.19]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NC1Wm-0003gP-Gf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:46:13 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2302.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9DE527000087 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:46:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (12.229.197-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.197.229.12]) by msfrf2302.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id C3AC77000086 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:46:03 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091122014603801.C3AC77000086@msfrf2302.sfr.fr Message-ID: <001f01ca6b15$886a3ef0$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:45:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! 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Nov 2009 23:51:06 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4B04EADA.4090707@telus.net> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:51:06 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Joe don't drop the soap! 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RAC speaks... 73 Scott http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD054-b884b0059e060; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:43:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD072-b884b0059e060; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:43:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9kza-0000mt-HU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:42:34 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9kza-0000mk-3s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:42:34 +0000 Received: from imr-ma01.mx.aol.com ([64.12.206.39]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9kzY-00013z-Fy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:42:34 +0000 Received: from imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (imo-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.137]) by imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nAFJgK22012349 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:42:20 -0500 Received: from KKorn42@aol.com by imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id l.d0d.6558304b (65100) for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:42:17 -0500 (EST) From: KKorn42@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:42:17 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5024 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: KKorn42@aol.com X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Weak Signals - was 500kHz CW - calling CQ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1258314137" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.8 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_40_50, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1258314137 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andy & Group Vy nice presentation & tnx for making it available for us. Would like to use parts for talk in local ham club, objections? (source will be mentioned, of course!). PPT works ok, if wav-files are unzipped and placed beside it. Otherwise: no sound. 73 de Klaus DJ6LB -------------------------------1258314137 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Andy & Group
Vy nice presentation & tnx for making it available for us.
Would like to use parts for talk in local ham club, objections? (sour= ce=20 will be mentioned, of course!).
 
PPT works ok, if wav-files are unzipped and placed beside it. Otherwi= se: no=20 sound.
 
73
de Klaus
DJ6LB
 
 -------------------------------1258314137-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (rly-ma04.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.48]) by air-ma09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA093-8a54af196e12bc; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:59:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA047-8a54af196e12bc; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:59:47 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N5hJj-0006Hs-UK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:58:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N5hJj-0006Hj-ID for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:58:35 +0000 Received: from mail-yx0-f203.google.com ([209.85.210.203]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N5hIQ-0002OS-9N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:57:15 +0000 Received: by yxe41 with SMTP id 41so18258936yxe.30 for ; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 06:58:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=AoqxHqHZZSRkgj1cz9uxdLZ+hh2DtxN+9XgZbfSyBhQ=; b=HlO3OEdRbm2xr09TNTvaD//XMLmmABz6nOeX+mgrFJnLbIpAnjymLunzw2tOPEA5QZ jlR1kU8WBDpQbf5YHSKoqMYAq7xqJGNDIhg9yAK/eHebnYxRMcDUzN/8G7yKrOcBND74 X0BPqe/tMTL2KPLQ/eP0iH7MW4PESrrHLRLhU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Wj3KnsuppZDuQm2vBeEqgbAObt/A3mp6LRXI0ua7rd4Wo6PjjUKWsBSETVAkUqcc18 v/2WkFRwjIQ3RW5HUAyDsDdUv893jhhI5+hQ9WZxTMdj7dGD4nfW0leJwNB6x6HuKlAW DA0M1VlEGsbFBcxhTx6NayEMZL7NK+2vJloFU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.14.3 with SMTP id 3mr2811680ybn.288.1257346707796; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 06:58:27 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4AF13DEC.7090507@online.fr> References: <4AF13DEC.7090507@online.fr> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:58:27 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70911040658h542a54fbvae0108ff9cc91228@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XGJ 04-11.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d256.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thank you Henny, Jean-Pierre ! --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2009/11/4 "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" : > Hi Henny , Warren , > > Yes , yes ! strong signal of Warren' beacon last night ! > > 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj > > henny van elst a =E9crit : >> >> Hi Warren,LF >> Nice capture XGJ >> Henny pa3cpm >> best 73s >> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden >> verzonden: >> XGJ 04-11.jpg >> From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD032-8f54afff7ae14e; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 07:44:47 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD035-8f54afff7ae14e; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 07:44:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9eRy-0006iH-NF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:43:26 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9eRy-0006i8-4m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:43:26 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9eRv-0007aw-V4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:43:26 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3541.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7A43D1C00081 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:43:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3541.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6C4991C00082 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:43:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.53.205]) by mwinf3541.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id D9B601C00081 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:43:13 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091115124313891.D9B601C00081@mwinf3541.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <20091115112410.27d3dldtj44k4sk4@webmail6.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20091115112410.27d3dldtj44k4sk4@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:42:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Who / where is OR2ELN ?? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Ok Rick / Andy It was late at night .. looking closely at the wspr on line data base , it states the frequency is the average of the spots ..AH ... I always had assume that when you set up for tx the software announced your qrg via the web May be that is so, but it also takes a incoming spot and posts that in the active list .... as you say a little wet out there , bit like Manchester ? G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Rik Strobbe" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 10:24 AM To: Subject: Re: LF: Who / where is OR2ELN ?? > > Graham, > > the call OR2ELN does not exist > if it is a pirate he is floating in the Indian Ocean somewhe half way > between Madagascar and Heard Island. > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > Quoting Graham : > >> 2009-11-14 23:14 OR2ELN 0.503908 -33 0 >> MF03 501 G0NBD IO83 11740 326 >> >> Just decoded ? >> >> tnx - G >> >> >> >> > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc01.mx.aol.com (rly-mc01.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.85]) by air-mc07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC071-d514b07f0d426a; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:53:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC011-d514b07f0d426a; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:53:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBqNo-0005Rr-Up for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:52:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBqNo-0005Ri-Io for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:52:12 +0000 Received: from mailout04.t-online.de ([194.25.134.18]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBqNn-0008FA-21 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:52:12 +0000 Received: from fwd04.aul.t-online.de by mailout04.t-online.de with smtp id 1NBqNj-0005gZ-00; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:52:07 +0100 Received: from e7010 (Gz4t1rZE8h1ATGCrE9APdF1ZsOhj2LOeX8zO9EGjOx8stI32SwXqDkdBtGzqkdlgKy@[84.147.192.128]) by fwd04.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1NBqNV-1GA0tU0; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:51:53 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01ca6ab1$c828c070$6402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:51:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: Gz4t1rZE8h1ATGCrE9APdF1ZsOhj2LOeX8zO9EGjOx8stI32SwXqDkdBtGzqkdlgKy X-TOI-MSGID: 78cf8c64-4935-4592-9a9d-cea23fce9059 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: DI2AG WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6ABA.27F68890" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6ABA.27F68890 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear MF, how about WSPR daylight reception? DI2AG is already on air wit= h 0.4W ERP on 505.090KHz. Duty cycle 33%. Antenna was a little improve= d. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6ABA.27F68890 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear MF,
      &= nbsp; how=20 about WSPR daylight reception? DI2AG is already on air with 0.4W ERP= on=20 505.090KHz. Duty cycle 33%. Antenna was a little improved.
73  Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF<= /DIV>
 
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6ABA.27F68890-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me05.mx.aol.com (rly-me05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.39]) by air-me07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME074-9ba4afdc820289; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:57:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME056-9ba4afdc820289; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:57:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N93BI-00051I-H7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:55:44 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N93BI-000519-3d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:55:44 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N93BG-0007yJ-7h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:55:44 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.4] (rx1.twatt.home [192.168.1.4]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F0D23B4D8 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:55:41 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4AFDC7CD.5000409@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:55:41 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <00df01ca6488$e9244a80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <5MsXcPDG6Z$KFw8w@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <5MsXcPDG6Z$KFw8w@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: PIRATES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) David Pratt wrote: > > My NoV does not authorise me to operate a beacon so my operation is > limited to CW using proper Morse ;-) I don't recall ever hearing this "proper morse" on the air, nor any reports of others having heard it. Perhaps more ERP or a more suitable mode is called for? Or is it a case of "if I /were/ to be active I would use proper morse, but to be honest it all seems like too much trouble" At least the WSPRers are doing something on the band, collecting their own experimental data and providing signals for others to study. A silent " proper Morse" signal is no use to anyone. Don't castigate those who are at least actively studying the band, in a variety of modulation schemes. How do you know what other peoples' NoV allow them to do - everyone applied for permission to carry out their own experiments and were granted these permissions on an individual basis. Not all of them are specifically for manual telegraphy. John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG094-9f74afea73813d; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:49:01 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG021-9f74afea73813d; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:48:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9I2s-0007mk-LU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:48:02 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9I2s-0007mb-3E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:48:02 +0000 Received: from out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.243]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9I2q-0003u5-Ac for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:48:02 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApwEAFc1/kpZ8h2I/2dsb2JhbACEOYtrw0yEPASBbQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,741,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="224265878" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.242.29.136]) by out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 14 Nov 2009 12:47:31 +0000 Message-ID: <025801ca6528$a566dec0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <00df01ca6488$e9244a80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <1258158609.4671.18.camel@pat-compaq-evo> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:47:37 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: PIRATES Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Well you have been hooked. I have a mix of transport both a bicycle and a CLK320 for your records, living dangerously. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "g4gvw" To: Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 12:30 AM Subject: Re: LF: PIRATES > Mal, > > I have been extremely successful of late in not rising to your bait on > various topics. This time I really must take umbrage at your rather > sweeping statement about the Maritime Service vis-a-vis the 500khz > allocation. > The maritime Service has been almost 100% a "commercial" service and as > such has had as its primary interest the maintenance of a viable > communications service. As far as I am aware. no serious research has > been done by that service into weak-signal and similar modes apart from > that done by the various military interests. Effectively, as soon as > alternative and arguably more efficient/cost effective alternatives > became available these commercial interests naturally migrated to them. > This is not the same as saying they had "exhausted all possibilities and > concluded it is of no further use." Your statement is rather like saying > that the coming of the motor car rendered the bicycle or the horse > obsolete and of "no further use"! It's a funny thing but in my travels I > see plenty of both in widespread use! > Amateur radio for many of us encompasses a wide range of activities and > your constant carping and promotion of your own rather biased interests > gets on the nerves of quite a lot of us to the extent that some members > no longer subscribe to the group. > Perhaps you should consider the view that, as with the cyclists and > horse riders there are modes of operation that lead to the promotion of > health and happiness and a calm and healthy state of mind. > > > > > > On Fri, 2009-11-13 at 17:44 +0000, mal hamilton wrote: >> Lots of pirates reported around the east african coast and Indian >> ocean but now Radio pirates !!!! on 500. >> How would one know a Pirate? their style of sending on cw or the way >> they WSPR. >> Beware of the WSPR merchants no ID just carriers switching on/off as >> far as the casual radio amateur is concerned. Instead of a simple >> approach worldwide to issue Radio Amateur licences for the >> traditional CW mode on 500, appliance operator licences were issued >> for Broadcast modes ie >> CW beacons, Data beacons, and other transmissions, which must stop at >> Country Borders and must not be reported by anyone hearing such >> transmissions beyond these Borders. >> In other words the whole 500 khz business is Chaotic, whereas the >> other MF allocation 160 metres is orderly and sensibly regulated using >> in the main CW and SSB. >> It would appear the appropriate license authorities do not think the >> Appliance Operator has much to contribute to the advancement or >> research on 500. >> The marine service has been using the band for the past 100 years and >> has exhausted all possibilities and concluded it is of no further use, >> with the advancement of Satellite communications technology. >> 500 in EU seems to be a fun band for WSPR Beacons where no operator >> participation is required just unattended machines belching out bits >> of data and generating QRM to the few Radio amateurs trying to get by >> on CW. >> Let us have your opinion. >> De G3KEV >> >> >> >> > -- > 73 es gd dx de pat g4gvw > qth nr felixstowe uk > (east coast, county of suffolk) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.62/2499 - Release Date: 11/12/09 14:33:00 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD042-b974b02e92a190; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:19:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD091-b974b02e92a190; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:19:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NASdL-00055w-Jl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:18:31 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NASdL-00055l-41 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:18:31 +0000 Received: from dx.ru ([80.68.4.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NASdI-0002It-E1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:18:31 +0000 DBD::Pg::st execute failed: ERROR: duplicate key value violates unique constraint "mail_whitelist_ip_key" DBD::Pg::st execute failed: ERROR: current transaction is aborted, commands ignored until end of transaction block DBD::Pg::st fetchrow_hashref failed: no statement executing Received: from 203.56.117.87.donpac.ru ([87.117.56.203] helo=UR5IBG) by dx.ru with esmtpa auth=ed@dx.ru id 1NASd8-000GMc-0b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:18:18 +0300 Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:16:26 +0300 From: Ed RU6LA X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.7) Professional Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <7910073879.20091117211626@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.236 Subject: LF: RU6LA's acty Nov 21 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear LF enthusiasts! I'll be QRV 21 Nov on 137 kHz band from Machta KN97LN 73! Ed RU6LA 136.73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC072-b1f4b0ab4bd2d3; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:13:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC053-b1f4b0ab4bd2d3; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:13:51 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCbXB-0001hs-Qp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:13:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCbXB-0001hj-GF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:13:01 +0000 Received: from mx75.mail.ru ([94.100.176.90]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCbXA-0003x9-S3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:13:01 +0000 Received: from [94.75.139.7] (port=65369 helo=[192.168.1.4]) by mx75.mail.ru with asmtp id 1NCbX4-000LKi-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:12:54 +0300 Message-ID: <4B0AB47D.1090408@mail.ru> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:12:45 +0300 From: Dmitry User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 SeaMonkey/1.1.18 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: YO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Victor, Lubos Many thanks for capture Dmitry RA3YO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc02.mx.aol.com (rly-mc02.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.86]) by air-mc07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC072-d5f4af2bab1c7; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:45:08 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC027-d5f4af2bab1c7; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:44:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N60l4-0001Td-Ny for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:44:06 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N60l4-0001TU-CB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:44:06 +0000 Received: from mx01.infotech.at ([213.174.240.1]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N60l2-0006Fk-CV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:44:06 +0000 Received: from [213.174.255.68] by mx01.infotech.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N60l1-0000Ak-OS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:44:03 +0100 Message-ID: <4AF2BAB0.2090006@inext.at> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:44:48 +0100 From: Oberreiter Oswald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C6EE3534@exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net> <4AF21D96.3080506@mail.ru> In-Reply-To: <4AF21D96.3080506@mail.ru> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: AW: Re: LF: Who on +/-137.710KHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) HI Dimitry ! thanks fer report ,i have seen it myself also on your grabber many thanks also fore youre grabber ,i was running qrss4 . 73 de ossi oe5odl jn68rd Dmitry schrieb: > Hi LF! > > Copy qrss10 OE5ODL > > Dmitry > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df02.mx.aol.com (rly-df02.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.15]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF011-5314afb45f42f7; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:17:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF024-5314afb45f42f7; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:17:10 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8MPo-0004b8-8V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:15:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8MPn-0004az-Kl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:15:51 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8MP7-0001GW-HR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:15:10 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3522.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 79E4C1C00084 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:15:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3522.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6A86F1C00085 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:15:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.43.142]) by mwinf3522.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 1C7701C00084 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:15:42 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091111231542116.1C7701C00084@mwinf3522.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <789669B7117F49968285748B0E5D9871@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:15:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: LF: 2009-11-09 09:12 G4JNT 0.503849 -23 0 IO90iv 0.2 K1JT Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004A_01CA6324.E30134C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01CA6324.E30134C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This report is -NOT- confirmed by K1JT ,=20 Most likely is reporting station has not=20 set the station details and the default settings are still in place WSPR version 2 is due for release soon default settings will be 'blank' to prevent this in the future G ..=20 From: Graham=20 Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 8:53 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: 2009-11-09 09:12 G4JNT 0.503849 -23 0 IO90iv 0.2 K1JT FN2= 0 5599 288=20 2009-11-09 09:12 G4JNT 0.503849 -23 0 IO90iv 0.2 = K1JT FN20 5599 288 =20 At 09-12 ... amazing !=20 G ..=20 ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01CA6324.E30134C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This report is -NOT- confirmed by K1J= T ,=20
Most likely is reporting station has= not=20
set the station  details an= d the =20 default
settings are still in place
 
WSPR version 2 is  due  for=   release=20 soon
default settings will be 'blank' to&n= bsp;=20 prevent
this in the  future
 
G ..
 
 

From: Graham
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 8:53 PM
Subject: LF: 2009-11-09 09:12 G4JNT 0.503849 -23 0 IO90iv= 0.2 K1JT=20 FN20 5599 288

 2009-11-09 09:12 
  G4JNT   0.503849   -23   0   IO90iv   0.2   K1JT   FN20   5599   288 
 
At  09-12   ... amazin= g  !=20
 
G ..




------=_NextPart_000_004A_01CA6324.E30134C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF052-57e4b0805e2172; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:23:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF101-57e4b0805e2172; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:23:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBrn3-0006T1-0e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:22:21 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBrn2-0006Ss-Fj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:22:20 +0000 Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBrn1-0001PC-OM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:22:20 +0000 Received: from aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091121151710.KNHZ27507.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:17:10 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.33] (really [82.22.242.219]) by aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20091121151710.ULHK2093.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.2.33]> for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:17:10 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:17:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4B080470.21349.E1B42C9@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=9YlaCzn6_68A:10 a=p9sfuQJDaKL0fLcqHGYA:9 a=2XMxgDuKnteKM0O6o2mpOCKRQZYA:4 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: More tests on 136k Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 I am testing until about 2230UTC using QRSS60 on 136.318kHz today (Saturday). Mike, G3XDV ========== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (rly-mf05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.175]) by air-mf07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF071-95c4afd42d8189; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:28:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF052-95c4afd42d8189; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:28:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8uIt-0001pL-H7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:26:59 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8uIt-0001pC-3I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:26:59 +0000 Received: from smtp23.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.19]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8uIr-0003og-G9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:26:59 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2321.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 122FC700009F for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:26:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (17.214.194-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.194.214.17]) by msfrf2321.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id A3F1F70000A3 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:26:47 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091113112647671.A3F1F70000A3@msfrf2321.sfr.fr Message-ID: <000c01ca6454$306b0170$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:26:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091112-1, 12/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: oe5odl/f8boj Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01CA645C.91C1B380" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01CA645C.91C1B380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Ossi LF group Good afternon Ossi very signal in JN16WA=20 stopping the beacon for the qso.. Many thanks for the new contact good week end all Claude F8boj ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01CA645C.91C1B380 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Ossi LF group
Good afternon Ossi very signal in JN1= 6WA=20
stopping the beacon for the qso..
Many thanks for the new contact
good week end all
Claude F8boj
------=_NextPart_000_0009_01CA645C.91C1B380-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg01.mx.aol.com (rly-dg01.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.85]) by air-dg02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG021-5a14b01b6d913; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:32:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG016-5a14b01b6d913; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:32:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA8EU-0008TL-8e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:31:30 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA8ET-0008TC-Og for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:31:29 +0000 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA8ER-00026L-PU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:31:29 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-2.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.2]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091116202617.XGX17277.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-2.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:26:17 +0000 Received: from [81.109.247.175] (helo=jimdesk) by know-smtpout-2.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA89Q-0002VQ-EU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:26:17 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:26:13 -0000 Message-ID: <017801ca66fb$0bf91c60$0517aac0@jimdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: Acpm+wrKXJ3F+g/fRdmG39v7Dc2bIQ== X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=LuzgUjd4dUYA:10 a=OFqd4urpmSi2O5rJd_YA:9 a=DbX6W8XnV7XCTwPjGK_QdxwAaKYA:4 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=K2nfgnomstU659lxookA:9 a=9NGoGmjgoiewWKbmVWcA:7 a=XaUCFZ7h1ZOP2shS76nCiy_WZ7oA:4 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: rule #2 - assumption is the brother of all foul ups Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0179_01CA66FB.0BF91C60" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_FONT_BIG, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0179_01CA66FB.0BF91C60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LF Sidebands are back! I think its caused by my TX getting hot and bothered by struggling at 500. From cold it txs 50 watts but this soon drops back to around 35, and the sidebands appear. My sigs are better so having the txfr outside the shack and at the antenna is a vast improvement, but I now need to work on the cooling. Liquid nitrogen? Thanks to all for the guidance and suggestions With best regards Jim Dr. James Cowburn ------=_NextPart_000_0179_01CA66FB.0BF91C60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

LF

 

Sidebands are back!  I think its= caused by my TX getting hot and bothered by struggling at 500.  From cold it txs 50 watts but= this soon drops back to around 35, and the sidebands appear.  My sigs are= better so having the txfr outside the shack and at the antenna is a vast improve= ment, but I now need to work on the cooling.  

 

Liquid nitrogen? 

 

Thanks to all for the guidance and sugg= estions

 

 

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim=

 

 

Dr. James Cowburn

------=_NextPart_000_0179_01CA66FB.0BF91C60-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg04.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMG041-a1b4b1129571b3; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 08:45:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG065-a1b4b1129571b3; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 08:44:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NENab-0004Qv-Nr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:43:53 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NENab-0004Qm-8y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:43:53 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s22.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.33]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NENaa-0007qU-K5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:43:53 +0000 Received: from BLU146-DS3 ([65.55.116.7]) by blu0-omc1-s22.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 28 Nov 2009 05:43:46 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [117.12.237.216] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: To: Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:43:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Nov 2009 13:43:46.0424 (UTC) FILETIME=[CED44780:01CA7030] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: tempting fate... Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D0_01CA7030.CDD0BA30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00D0_01CA7030.CDD0BA30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well looking at DCF39 its S5 at 1338Z with my Eprobe on the wrong side= of the apartment block screened mostly to the West - so Im guessing= things are pretty reasonable long haul East West. Ive taken the antennae down off the apartment roof but couldn't resist= shoving the eprobe off the balcony on the fishing pole as a temp solu= tion - the Loran lines are pretty bright. Laurence in BY3A today and Hong Kong tomorrow. http://kl1x.com/Screen2.jpg China on a dodgy antenna http://kl1x.com/Screen.jpg Wasilla Alaska ------=_NextPart_000_00D0_01CA7030.CDD0BA30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well looking at DCF39 its S5 at 1338Z with= my Eprobe on=20 the wrong side of the apartment block screened mostly to the West - so= Im=20 guessing things are pretty reasonable long haul East West.
 
Ive taken the antennae down off the apartmen= t=20 roof but couldn=92t resist shoving the eprobe off the balcony on= the fishing=20 pole as a temp solution - the Loran lines are pretty bright.
 
Laurence in BY3A today and Hong Kong=20 tomorrow.
ht= tp://kl1x.com/Screen2.jpg  =20 China on a dodgy antenna
htt= p://kl1x.com/Screen.jpg    =20 Wasilla Alaska
 
------=_NextPart_000_00D0_01CA7030.CDD0BA30-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg11.mx.aol.com (rly-dg11.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.95]) by air-dg01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG012-6014af4771f25f; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:21:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG112-6014af4771f25f; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:21:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6ULZ-00060D-1u for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:19:45 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6ULY-000604-Eo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:19:44 +0000 Received: from smtp831.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.13.166]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6ULW-0004cS-24 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:19:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 89737 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2009 19:19:36 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=K9Ay1QKHCRTMp/K9HS22QwsCIMwvEfiVJR3RyUfdVLGGiOKVk9BHlYR89wa6SriIgUryLVGNYMZY1UdTfyqxxOlIqtTtwbF5JzrzmoPdPUc3SXebULguexIIMYPPjdxdpcX06PYbk/jtB1zvzaVDEqqKu1Fk03U7ddtJWdGM/gs= ; Received: from dial81-131-3-242.in-addr.btopenworld.com (alan.melia@81.131.3.242 with login) by smtp831.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 06 Nov 2009 19:19:36 +0000 GMT X-Yahoo-SMTP: fpz.2VeswBBs59bVshRPmMN51lcO2lgFRIvE4XTqE8dRwOxd70E- X-YMail-OSG: GLAsMFIVM1mJQ7fcMWk_hHxpjHhw2hA1tR_qFgzeRouhEJK.ULknljjNzFMcDPk5vGIhuPk_ALqqw2ql9AP0pN51w7i4paZ7v7cicyV4PSarQYYLMU4CyY5wnVC8Bs0DVlNVYUPMGBg4P.UzqFyc6thHt6qMYXzq7nSFU6ga0eyfxOAVTWYEtJ5BCNfppmTKCHN2FGnFWeL6t.9eNZ1U0AEElohAE49Tvg_YkA52GuACEDj58_xYX9IURO6GsAfFqhiFIwoIf3dh_3kcXdcR9d0aankGlp8JVtPtnH6hENLyTtQdGs9He9r9nkon0MPs.vIGYz0yygHDeL1gYwyHkPIaRhs- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <002e01ca5f16$143aaf70$0900a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <9afca2640911060845r17eb75daracad4f874c3a1c9c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 19:17:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: G3XBM: 500kHz ERP increased by 6dB - WSPR reports please Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Roger there is probably less volts on the vertical section so you are losing less by capacitive coupling to the surroundings too. Well done!! ...but watch the wind it a killer with that format aerial. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Lapthorn" To: Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 4:45 PM Subject: LF: G3XBM: 500kHz ERP increased by 6dB - WSPR reports please > Today I modified my 500kHz antenna. The 28MHz halo up at the top of the 5-6m > vertical section (which was the coax feed to the 28MHz halo) was removed and > replaced by a spiral inductance/ top capacity hat consisting of around > around 8 "spiralling in" turns in the space occupied by the original halo. > Seeing my initial reports from M0BMU I am some *5-6dB stronger* than I was > before, I guess because more of the antenna current is in the vertical > section. The measured antenna current is not much different though. > > *Please listen for me on 500kHz WSPR* and let me know if I am now stronger > than before. > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (rly-mf09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.179]) by air-mf09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF091-97c4b000941289; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:59:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF092-97c4b000941289; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:59:31 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9fch-0006yg-Ne for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:58:35 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9fch-0006yX-4C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:58:35 +0000 Received: from mcgi61.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.184]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9fce-0007tP-UQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:58:35 +0000 Received: from mcgi61.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi61.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25B3D115D4 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:58:27 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [91.77.88.87] by mcgi61.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:58:22 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:58:22 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <710152697.1258253442.86168408.14505@mcgi73.rambler.ru> Message-Id: <1091396655.1258293502.52410104.19007@mcgi61.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 137kHz grabber in SP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 * Jacek Lipkowski [Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:15:14 +0100 (CET)]: > On Sun, 15 Nov 2009, Roman RW3ADB wrote: > > > Congratulation with the grabber started! > > Thanks! > > > Put your QTH locator to the page next time. > > It's on the left bottom side. The locator is KO02md overlooked, excuse! -) > > And put "offset" to Spectrum lab pse for the screening a real freq > rule. > > This is a problem. The EKV03 drifts alot, and that would require me to > either show an inaccurate frequency scale, or to recalibrate it against > a > frequency generator every few hours. Better to leave it as it is. How many time is need to standby? My FT897D have a visible drift in mode-120 only around 0.3-0.1 Hz per 10 minutes. Degen 1103 was drifted on 137 kHz around 2h and 1.5h on 500 to finished visible drift into mode-3. > EW6GB on the grabber now (9 local time!) overslept ) > VY 73 > > Jacek / SQ5BPF > > TNX for details! 73! -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de02.mx.aol.com (rly-de02.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.138]) by air-de08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE082-4b74af69a5e2f3; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:16:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE022-4b74af69a5e2f3; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:16:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N74nG-0004mS-6G for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:14:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N74nF-0004mJ-Nk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:14:45 +0000 Received: from smtp21.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.1]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N74mG-0007ju-TC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:13:45 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2102.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 007B77000099 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:14:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (222.43.196-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.196.43.222]) by msfrf2102.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 725317000097 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:14:38 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091108101438468.725317000097@msfrf2102.sfr.fr Message-ID: <000601ca605c$4798bb90$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:14:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091107-1, 07/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: dd7pc F8boj Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01CA6064.A8652F00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01CA6064.A8652F00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HI Marco and LF Marco GM ur M in JN16WA...to day.. many thanks for the qso best 73 's Claude F8boj ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01CA6064.A8652F00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
HI Marco and LF
Marco GM ur M in JN16WA...to=20 day..
many thanks for the qso
best 73 's
Claude F8boj
------=_NextPart_000_0003_01CA6064.A8652F00-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df02.mx.aol.com (rly-df02.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.15]) by air-df04.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDF043-5334b10448d35d; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 16:28:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF026-5334b10448d35d; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 16:28:47 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NE8LA-0007hz-Hc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 21:26:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NE8L9-0007hq-Ms for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 21:26:55 +0000 Received: from web28106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NE8L9-0002Pj-HO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 21:26:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 93204 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Nov 2009 21:26:50 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1259357209; bh=hYtrbDxmVD/4LxYqfVGks+UZ5Rp/4Wib8JFrOcnqCHw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qDKKxTqYiaD7qD6dLRcBf/TnPS0H52MxQvEiwFAU6Sy7d/ar/1//fewck9lfVa256S8T6zGhT7lnraS6lEwOlr4Qs6Sp9Hwaq3U2gGXKdjAzn6lEkjbiNhA11j+ZC1NtYoiDCH2L61k9b1k+lnFmosvW6jZr5zzcGZYkpvik9ZM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uqC0TEhOGbbN0r+oDcmFvRmhLh+WyVcilY0Cuwbutt9GX8ccKVrTyePLF8SUCulN0DKa8ai33VnkNvVcdW0q5o8KHnOM1pL3LK9TdzJIeHurJltc/qHRpj5SvTQw7NzarNonPWdOUAAQQh69oA6jz/S1kHlzC6MlhPsWiCB4LW4=; Message-ID: <995935.92396.qm@web28106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Ma9UMSkVM1nD8i_xmwwUUzLUXa9nIfBDKEPSTwCzbQ99psFV7EVWPNBBC5kltVzuYEwQAUgi2IxkiJESbJg5aYOmc3zjhzmRD1U947LSTAIhM5DRgJntpnnXHYIZQmbyQmnYQkX5.a7fiVd9WAKwRN9P4klCQEgFYrFimO7HRUPa6l5tDXuQNBfkkBkY64BHvQpRD0BYrBTqWgB.bB.24JWYK14cs7M4y59ja_qKIx1Iz7kHqfPQ5Z2KlXUGL0XM2RF4rNoCQt3iEcfzogbH1xzteTK1VukGfLTzBwJCo_Ad5G9CsRPs4w5TuK1P9Z4E4YHuRPyadKmBBPTOrww- Received: from [86.130.60.7] by web28106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 13:26:49 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 13:26:49 -0800 (PST) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <004301ca6fa2$2fb1d890$0900a8c0@lark> MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: Re: How do I use Spectrum Lab as a VLF Soft Receiver ? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1734542934-1259357209=:92396" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d224.2 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-1734542934-1259357209=:92396 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi If you use sm6lkm's rx it is intended for SAQ on17.2 kcs most sondcards wi= ll work ok since you only need a 48kb sample rate giving 24kcs band width.= Not only will you hear SAQ when its on but also the Apha stations (Russia= n nav aids) at least three if not more sending a Beep Beep Beep. Also arou= nd 19 to 20 kc/s you will hear and see a strong set of signals sonding lik= e a loud rushing sound. These are some kind of naval data stations may be= US. You only need a few feet of wire in the mic socket preferably out doo= rs away from domesric noise. If the antenna is fairly long make sure you= shunt the input with a diode to stop the chance of destroying your card= with high volts from static rain and the like. There is absolutly no need= for preamps coils or any thing in front of you sound card just the protec= tive diode. =A0 Alan is right about Winrad if you set the software LO to zero and select= LH or RH rather than the full IQ and depending on you sound card sample= rate you will either get 0 to 24kc/s or 0 to 48kc/s band coverage. =A0 You will not get any further radio frequency coverage without an SDR=A0 (T= ayloe detector ... multiplexer) front end on you soundcard. Softrock comes= highly recomended it is simple to build and cheap and can be adapted to= just about any band you wish to monitor. =A0 If you wish to use any other software with you SDR set up again Alan is co= rrect just down load the VAC (virtual audio cable... Google it) and you ca= n daisy chain just about any decoding or FFT software you like with out re= sorting to a soldering iron additional PC's or physical cables..........= it's the future!!! =A0 Hope this helps, lots of info on the web join Yahoo group Soft-rock 40. =A0 There is info on a 500kc/s / 136kc/s plus IF panadaptor versions of softro= ck or you can buy a ready build Pegasus RX and others for serious money bu= t Soft-rock will delight you for peanuts!! =A0 73 mail me direct if you have any queries petefmt --- On Fri, 27/11/09, Alan Melia wrote: From: Alan Melia Subject: LF: Re: How do I use Spectrum Lab as a VLF Soft Receiver ? To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Friday, 27 November, 2009, 20:42 I am not sure about this you need to scour the help files but the SID receiver is not meant for listening to it is to produce a sig-strength v time plot. You might need some fairly crafty software connection for Spec Lab Wolf will maybe reply he does monitor. As an easy alternative try WinRad by Alberto www.weaksignals.com and just stick a wire into the mic input and you get a full SDR receiver. I am not sure you get sound out even then you may be Virtual Audio Cable, or perhap= s Alberto has a hook in the code now. The thing is you are using the card twice....once to pruduce the receiver and again to produce the audio outpu= t. I cant check at the moment I am still in the process of loading up this PC= . Best Wishes Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy - KU4XR" To: ; Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 7:14 PM Subject: LF: How do I use Spectrum Lab as a VLF Soft Receiver ? > Hello All: > > I have recently been trying to get a soundcard VLF receiver > going. I found a SAQ receiver on the web designed by > Johan - SM6LKM. It works good I suppose never having tried > this before. I can hear " Radio noise " in other words, it > actually sounds like a receiver. When I connect enough > coils in series, with a variable cap to ground to make a > pre-selector, The noise floor will rise 20 dB when I tune > the Cap. and you can see the peak move across the spectrum > display. However, that's as far as you can go, You can't > choose a sound card, it automatically chooses the windows > default card, and I haven't found a way to use DSP filtering > with it, since everything is based on the sound card alone. > > Now for Spectrum Lab, It has a built in " SID " receiver, > and the built in DSP filters work in the program. I just can't > get it to work !!!!! All I can get is low freq. hum, or > digital noise. It makes no difference with or without an Ant. > I've changed sound card sample rates, and FFT settings, > nothing works for me. > > Does anyone have any suggestions for me to try=A0 ?? Thank you. > > 73 to all ::: > > > Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN. > LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 185.29866 KHz ( QRSS-60 ) > Coordinates:=A0 N:=A0 35* 43' 54" - W:=A0 84* 3' 16" > http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr > http://webpages.charter.net/ku4xr/ > > > > =20 --0-1734542934-1259357209=:92396 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi
If you use sm6lkm's rx it is intended for SAQ on17.2 kcs most sondcar= ds will work ok since you only need a 48kb sample rate giving 24kcs band= width. Not only will you hear SAQ when its on but also the Apha stations= (Russian nav aids) at least three if not more sending a Beep Beep Beep.= Also around 19 to 20 kc/s you will hear and see a strong set of signals= sonding like a loud rushing sound. These are some kind of naval data stat= ions may be US. You only need a few feet of wire in the mic socket prefera= bly out doors away from domesric noise. If the antenna is fairly long make= sure you shunt the input with a diode to stop the chance of destroying yo= ur card with high volts from static rain and the like. There is absolutly= no need for preamps coils or any thing in front of you sound card just th= e protective diode.
 
Alan is right about Winrad if you set the software LO to zero and sel= ect LH or RH rather than the full IQ and depending on you sound card sampl= e rate you will either get 0 to 24kc/s or 0 to 48kc/s band coverage.
 
You will not get any further radio frequency coverage without an SDR&= nbsp; (Tayloe detector ... multiplexer) front end on you soundcard. Softro= ck comes highly recomended it is simple to build and cheap and can be adap= ted to just about any band you wish to monitor.
 
If you wish to use any other software with you SDR set up again Alan= is correct just down load the VAC (virtual audio cable... Google it) and= you can daisy chain just about any decoding or FFT software you like with= out resorting to a soldering iron additional PC's or physical cables.....= ..... it's the future!!!
 
Hope this helps, lots of info on the web join Yahoo group Soft-rock= 40.
 
There is info on a 500kc/s / 136kc/s plus IF panadaptor versions of= softrock or you can buy a ready build Pegasus RX and others for serious= money but Soft-rock will delight you for peanuts!!
 
73 mail me direct if you have any queries petefmt

--- On Fr= i, 27/11/09, Alan Melia <alan.melia@btinternet.com> wrote= :

From: Alan Melia <alan.melia@btinternet.com= >
Subject: LF: Re: How do I use Spectrum Lab as a VLF Soft Receiver= ?
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Friday, 27 November, 2009,= 20:42

I am not sure about this you need to scour the help= files but the SID
receiver is not meant for listening to it is to prod= uce a sig-strength v
time plot. You might need some fairly crafty softw= are connection for Spec
Lab Wolf will maybe reply he does monitor.
<= BR>As an easy alternative try WinRad by Alberto www.weaksignals.com and ju= st
stick a wire into the mic input and you get a full SDR receiver. I= am not
sure you get sound out even then you may be Virtual Audio Cable= , or perhaps
Alberto has a hook in the code now. The thing is you are= using the card
twice....once to pruduce the receiver and again to prod= uce the audio output.
I cant check at the moment I am still in the proc= ess of loading up this PC.

Best Wishes
Alan G3NYK

-----= Original Message -----
From: "Andy - KU4XR" <ku4xr@yahoo.com>
To: <lowfer@mailman.qth.net>; <rsgb_lf_group@blackshee= p.org>
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 7:14 PM
Subject: LF:= How do I use Spectrum Lab as a VLF Soft Receiver ?


> Hello= All:
>
> I have recently been trying to get a soundcard VLF= receiver
> going. I found a SAQ receiver on the web designed by
= > Johan - SM6LKM. It works good I suppose never having tried
> th= is before. I can hear " Radio noise " in other words, it
> actually= sounds like a receiver. When I connect enough
> coils in series, wi= th a variable cap to ground to make a
> pre-selector, The noise floo= r will rise 20 dB when I tune
> the Cap. and you can see the peak move acr= oss the spectrum
> display. However, that's as far as you can go, Yo= u can't
> choose a sound card, it automatically chooses the windows<= BR>> default card, and I haven't found a way to use DSP filtering
&g= t; with it, since everything is based on the sound card alone.
>
= > Now for Spectrum Lab, It has a built in " SID " receiver,
> and= the built in DSP filters work in the program. I just can't
> get it= to work !!!!! All I can get is low freq. hum, or
> digital noise.= It makes no difference with or without an Ant.
> I've changed sound= card sample rates, and FFT settings,
> nothing works for me.
>= ;
> Does anyone have any suggestions for me to try  ?? Thank yo= u.
>
> 73 to all :::
>
>
> Andy - KU4XR - EM= 75xr - Friendsville, TN.
> LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 185.29866 KHz ( QR= SS-60 )
> Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"> http://= www.myspace.com/beaconxr
> http://webpages.charter.net/ku4xr/
>>
>
>


=20 --0-1734542934-1259357209=:92396-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA014-8cd4b045410af; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:08:06 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA097-8cd4b045410af; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:07:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAqnX-0004aE-Mo for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:06:39 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAqnX-0004a5-3O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:06:39 +0000 Received: from out1.ip05ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.241]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAqnV-0004qp-BE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:06:39 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsoEAHbiA0tZ8cq7/2dsb2JhbACCJCyLKQbKWoQ7BIFv X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,766,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="96446533" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([89.241.202.187]) by out1.ip05ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 18 Nov 2009 20:06:29 +0000 Message-ID: <005001ca688a$9e8c97b0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:06:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: VX9MRC Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004D_01CA688A.9E42BD70" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01CA688A.9E42BD70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Now active on 508 khz qrs3 good signal for those in EU who want a QSO. De Mal/G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01CA688A.9E42BD70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Now active on 508 khz qrs3 good signa= l for those in=20 EU who want a QSO.
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------=_NextPart_000_004D_01CA688A.9E42BD70-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md04.mx.aol.com (rly-md04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.142]) by air-md02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD021-8fe4b06d0b01f6; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:24:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD046-8fe4b06d0b01f6; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:24:03 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBXCI-00080A-3d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:23:02 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBXCH-000801-M1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:23:01 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBXCG-0001MO-Co for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:23:01 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so3772771bwz.4 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:22:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=3tfRenfnHcbG3rYx7g0vyAhtjPLLI9x6kokLLP3sphg=; b=bCXYwUyj/MX0G4a5Zuv1uR9P0pYsq6hsSbEWaWOSRMr8/plAuFbhr7O8fXMD0wA47y MjAyl2siDI22iSE57pTBDkDEnWz1JdjpdUaZ/7OMhr2INUc9cUOEZEUVRrQic/HGy6HD 7Lkvqyk3jY5nrEiJfANUuGldgtzdGohZDbUc8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=sAJrtO+bPZnKqtnALtVOUBeUhik1fnuEaqW9403/8l87RFifozgRttrohbBJqoXskH ZusnemuTmcnDsxpsUwEdj6bYNLl38+n/q1a1D/1HYq/Q6cMyfKjwNF/gohKdGXJEpMiN dno7mfXlaea+jJX2rHxqYCWCCo/3vHVp1Ibx8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.29.15 with SMTP id o15mr1642015bkc.145.1258737773672; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:22:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <001d01ca6a04$dad11770$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> References: <4B06C48F.27981.939B9FD@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> <001d01ca6a04$dad11770$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:22:53 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911200922n24fffe14vd1556aeae4a35d16@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Test transmissions Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0003255553aedd779e0478d0b98f X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d275.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0003255553aedd779e0478d0b98f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ...please 2009/11/20 mal hamilton > Right on top of the Russian and other stn DX window. Move down to the low > end of the band out of the way. > G3KEV > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Dennison" > To: > Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 4:32 PM > Subject: LF: Test transmissions > > > > After a major refurbishment of my lounge/office/shack, I have finally > > rebuilt my 136kHz station. > > > > To check reliability of the Tx at low speeds, I am transmitting using > > QRSS30 on 137.776kHz this evening (Friday). Please email if I am > > causing QRM to anyone listening for DX. I will switch off at around > > 2230UTC. > > > > Mike, G3XDV > > ========= > > > > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --0003255553aedd779e0478d0b98f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ...please

2009/11/20 mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktal= k.net>
Right on top of the Russian and other stn DX window. Move down to the low<= br> end of the band out of the way.
G3KEV

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Dennison" <mike.dennison@ntlworld.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org>
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 4:32 PM
Subject: LF: Test transmissions


> After a major refurbishment of my lounge/office/shack, I have finally=
> rebuilt my 136kHz station.
>
> To check reliability of the Tx at low speeds, I am transmitting using=
> QRSS30 on 137.776kHz this evening (Friday). Please email if I am
> causing QRM to anyone listening for DX. I will switch off at around > 2230UTC.
>
> Mike, G3XDV
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>





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--0003255553aedd779e0478d0b98f-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db05.mx.aol.com (rly-db05.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.80]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDB084-ac74b0d3e2211e; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:24:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB055-ac74b0d3e2211e; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:24:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDImH-0003Dp-Oo for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:23:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDImH-0003Dg-3p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:23:29 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDImE-0003Hq-I5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:23:29 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33FA251C003 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:23:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from PC_van_Rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-106.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.106]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 108C1F3862 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:23:16 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:23:23 +0100 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: References: <000c01ca6db1$04873810$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091125142316.108C1F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_10_20=0.945,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Class E pa Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_23863738==.ALT" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --=====================_23863738==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hello Tony, >I'm still using a Derivative of the Design from G3YXM's class E 1KW TX on LF If you refer to the TX in http://www.wireless.org.uk/136rig.htm : this is a class D TX, not class E. I am also using a "G3XYM clone" on 500kHz (with a pair of IRFP350's). Running on 44V / 7 A it delivers just over 250W, about 82% efficiency. It seems very forgiving to mismatch, no FET failures so far (fingers crossed). But for testing purposes (antenna tuning) I run it on 13.6V (abt. 25W output) where it can handle any mismatch. 73, Rik ON7YD At 12:47 25/11/2009, you wrote: >Hi Mal >I'm still using a Derivative of the Design from G3YXM's class E 1KW >TX on LF. Recently I've built a TX for 500 kHz using the same >principle. It works great and delivers up to 500W. Unfortunately >only into a dummy load, because 500 kHz is still not allowed here in >Switzerland. But at least - I will be ready ;-) >73 de Toni, HB9ASB > >2009/11/25 mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> >Ref recent discussion on the subject. > >I use a class E pa on 500 kcs and never get any trouble. >As a general guide use high voltage fets and the fet V should be >rated at about 5 times the supply V and current about 3 times. >You arrive at class E by careful design not by accident. >Having designed and built the PA for the required power and load R >usually 50 ohms adjust into a DL for correct waveform as displayed >on a 'scope, this is important otherwise V spikes and instability >will kill the fet. >Install a suitable antenna and match it with a suitable atu to 50 >ohms so when you connect the TX/PA to the antenna they both match. >Check the wave form again and any slight mismatch should be adjusted >by the antenna atu and NOT the pa. >The load does not have to be 50 ohms but this is convenient when >testing with available test gear. >High V fets give more realistic C and Inductor and R values. A good >range for fets is a psu giving 40 - 100 volts ie fets 500volts and a >suitable current rating depending on your power. requirements ie if >you need to draw 5 amps the fet should be rated 15 amps. >These are the general guidelines and work well for me. >Most amateurs seem to use class D amps whereas class E are rare. > >de Mal/G3KEV > > --=====================_23863738==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Hello Tony,

I'm still using a Derivative of the Design from G3YXM's class E 1KW TX on LF

If you refer to the TX in http://www.wireless.org.uk/136rig.htm : this is a class D TX, not class E.
I am also using a "G3XYM clone" on 500kHz (with a pair of IRFP350's). Running on 44V / 7 A it delivers just over 250W, about 82% efficiency. It seems very forgiving to mismatch, no FET failures so far (fingers crossed). But for testing purposes (antenna tuning) I run it on 13.6V (abt. 25W output) where it can handle any mismatch.

73, Rik ON7YD

At 12:47 25/11/2009, you wrote:
Hi Mal
I'm still using a Derivative of the Design from G3YXM's class E 1KW TX on LF. Recently I've built a TX for 500 kHz using the same principle. It works great and delivers up to 500W. Unfortunately only into a dummy load, because 500 kHz is still not allowed here in Switzerland. But at least - I will be ready ;-)
73 de Toni, HB9ASB

2009/11/25 mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net >
Ref recent discussion on the subject.
 
I use a class E pa on 500 kcs and never get any trouble.
As a general guide use high voltage fets and the fet V should be rated at  about 5 times the supply V and current about 3 times.
You arrive at class E by careful design not by accident.
Having designed and built the PA for the required power and load R usually 50 ohms adjust into a DL for correct waveform as displayed on a 'scope, this is important otherwise V spikes and instability will kill the fet.
Install a suitable antenna and match it with a suitable atu to 50 ohms so when you connect the TX/PA to the antenna they both match.
Check the wave form again and any slight mismatch should be adjusted by the antenna atu and NOT the pa.
The load does not have to be 50 ohms but this is convenient when testing with available test gear.
High V fets give more realistic C and Inductor and R values. A good range for fets is a psu giving 40 - 100 volts ie fets 500volts and a suitable current rating depending on your power. requirements ie if you need to draw 5 amps the fet should be rated 15 amps.
These are the general guidelines and work well for me.
Most amateurs seem to use class D amps whereas class E are rare.
 
de Mal/G3KEV
 

--=====================_23863738==.ALT-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG101-9f24afdd04828e; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:32:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG014-9f24afdd04828e; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:31:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N93jZ-0005LX-3V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:31:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N93jY-0005LO-Kr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:31:08 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f211.google.com ([209.85.220.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N93jX-00015i-Od for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:31:08 +0000 Received: by fxm3 with SMTP id 3so2224098fxm.4 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:31:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+kXnSjeyTVYnykKvxPXqbjutcm7OU/uHO1ideiB8/l4=; b=WNYJJ6p0OnM6QfPK2yMx0WAu9G2FhSmxYjtW5EHzivkwbint9zhVDFxOuXJ7q0ofky 3qLvRa0DWeXaVFhhn2Oah9ng4VG5iIrK7CqectWmN1/g/juj5abtOZ6R1BCI4ZaTYYf1 r0c+tticN73WfHopdhx4CI4SqgNu30YQCrJR8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=IAW2VO+7EmO4kAJbunfmx7mmtQUQaepAR3+raZVdZ9gGjjahkjDwK00Hg4OnBcumKU 9MxsRgdWJLM9UMlz7RodMGg4EXb3eMPkHJh2hX0N+J+YfV2U18oG98OEkYialMvt/0DE 7+UBY2HVGXVqoiB+xDg/zEp+w2/o2EPcwh5qU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.145.8 with SMTP id q8mr465777hba.122.1258147861835; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:31:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4AFDC7CD.5000409@sighthound.demon.co.uk> References: <00df01ca6488$e9244a80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <5MsXcPDG6Z$KFw8w@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk> <4AFDC7CD.5000409@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:31:01 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: PIRATES Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f0a018612fb80478476007 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d227.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001485f0a018612fb80478476007 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My NoV specifically was not for manual CW. So, technically, my beacon is breaking the terms of the NoV by having an on-off 10 baud ident. Andy www.g4jnt.com this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny state 2009/11/13 John P-G > David Pratt wrote: > > >> My NoV does not authorise me to operate a beacon so my operation is >> limited to CW using proper Morse ;-) >> > > I don't recall ever hearing this "proper morse" on the air, nor any reports > of others having heard it. > > Perhaps more ERP or a more suitable mode is called for? > > Or is it a case of "if I /were/ to be active I would use proper morse, but > to be honest it all seems like too much trouble" > > At least the WSPRers are doing something on the band, collecting their own > experimental data and providing signals for others to study. > > A silent " proper Morse" signal is no use to anyone. > > Don't castigate those who are at least actively studying the band, in a > variety of modulation schemes. How do you know what other peoples' NoV allow > them to do - everyone applied for permission to carry out their own > experiments and were granted these permissions on an individual basis. Not > all of them are specifically for manual telegraphy. > > > > John > GM4SLV > > --001485f0a018612fb80478476007 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My NoV specifically was not for manual CW.=A0 So, technically, my bea= con is breaking the terms of the NoV by having an on-off 10 baud ident.

Andy
www.g4jnt.= com

this email has been scanned for political correctness by th= e nanny state


2009/11/13 John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk<= /a>>
David Pratt wrote:


My NoV does not authorise= me to operate a beacon so my operation is limited to CW using proper Mors= e ;-)

I don't recall ever hearing this "proper morse&q= uot; on the air, nor any reports of others having heard it.

Perhaps= more ERP or a more suitable mode is called for?

Or is it a case of= "if I /were/ to be active I would use proper morse, but to be honest= it all seems like too much trouble"

At least the WSPRers are doing something on the band, collecting their= own experimental data and providing signals for others to study.

A= silent " proper Morse" signal is no use to anyone.

Don&#= 39;t castigate those who are at least actively studying the band, in a var= iety of modulation schemes. How do you know what other peoples' NoV al= low them to do - everyone applied for permission to carry out their own ex= periments and were granted these permissions on an individual basis. Not= all of them are specifically for manual telegraphy.



John
GM4SLV


--001485f0a018612fb80478476007-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG021-a284b07faee77; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:36:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG082-a284b07faee77; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:36:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBr3l-0005u6-Ml for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:35:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBr3l-0005tx-5d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:35:33 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f211.google.com ([209.85.220.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBr3k-0008UR-I4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:35:33 +0000 Received: by fxm3 with SMTP id 3so4668126fxm.4 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:35:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=beJHtghN0ZLciFaIF1wbTn/R2DnW/o5s/rQYugf0m7g=; b=VJmLV2y2x9eTN1JFDllwE5rv9DKs7jldmyUuhxvDWYDETy6Rrwx9Jo9ouW7/N+wzei opcnAmXsNkJMWfROAcR4EH/O0hyEJdKpNKn3+n5z/O5JgOlZo3GZ4dHinOXWOGRdYNIL ozNNnWAyAE5s9vYy/m+CkPkG9wUGmxCWX/qFQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Zb2FxfawNVLII/aVrkRh6F5CoT09UJ7iaOpiPE+ej+9SsAqcxTYsKc7eKWIBCH8iun Xbnng9Xkl1MndXViRNrwbbqGTkX+KQarDXAWblWg/Tc9kFY8eHPzSxVi6DLzcPyQAPQD IEH/85Z7+vmE7e+snU3EdXL2CR6pivUsAhVNA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.139.91 with SMTP id s27mr268885hbs.84.1258814126361; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:35:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <004501ca6ab4$9a81dd20$0517aac0@desktop> References: <4B07ABA4.4060102@online.fr> <004601ca6ab3$a160b400$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <004501ca6ab4$9a81dd20$0517aac0@desktop> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:35:25 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d276.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) and define unattended ... Andy www.g4jnt.com This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health and safety police 2009/11/21 James Cowburn : > How do you know they are unattended? > > > Jim > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton > Sent: 21 November 2009 14:05 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO > > Two unattended machines had a QSO!! =A0Is that what you mean. > g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andy Talbot" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 1:52 PM > Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO > > > CanI suggest you read thoroughly the documentation on how the mode > works before making claims about the database.and validity. =A0 The > database can only be updated by stations decoding and reportoing, and > if each QSO partner has a reciprocal report in the database for > near-adjacent time intervals , then they MUST have been in contact > with eachother and cannot be classed as anything bu a valid QSO. Its > impossible to have achieved this in any other way. > > Please read all the documentation first. > > Andy > www.g4jnt.com > > This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health > and safety police > > > > 2009/11/21 Wolf Ostwald : >> Hello group ! >> >> >> >> I am not an expert with WSPR at all. But I followed the discussion > regarding >> false detection of calls thru the database. >> >> To my understanding the WSPR operator has NO way to really find out > whether >> the computer came to the right conclusion about the calls received, or >> whether it just judged by means of plausibility. We humans have no sens= e > for >> phaseshift, that means we have to believe the machine. >> >> I think that the database in the background is like a walking stick for > the >> blind. >> >> Of course it's a new and exciting technology, but I doubt that it is on > one >> and the same level with a regular exchange and therefore should not be >> considered equally verifying a valid contact. >> >> My two pence worth de wolf df2py >> >> > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME054-99d4af202338; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:38:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME021-99d4af202338; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:37:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N5oSv-00082x-Bh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:36:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N5oSu-00082o-Ub for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:15:14 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: paranoid.lipkowski.org: sq5bpf owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:15:14 +0100 (CET) From: Jacek Lipkowski To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <710152697.1258253442.86168408.14505@mcgi73.rambler.ru> Message-ID: References: <710152697.1258253442.86168408.14505@mcgi73.rambler.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score-sq5bpf: -2.601 () BAYES_00,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 137kHz grabber in SP Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) On Sun, 15 Nov 2009, Roman RW3ADB wrote: > Congratulation with the grabber started! Thanks! > Put your QTH locator to the page next time. It's on the left bottom side. The locator is KO02md > And put "offset" to Spectrum lab pse for the screening a real freq rule. This is a problem. The EKV03 drifts alot, and that would require me to either show an inaccurate frequency scale, or to recalibrate it against a frequency generator every few hours. Better to leave it as it is. EW6GB on the grabber now (9 local time!) VY 73 Jacek / SQ5BPF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (rly-dd08.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.155]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDD054-b944b12e3cc2dd; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:12:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD086-b944b12e3cc2dd; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:12:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEr3k-00049a-IJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:11:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEr3k-00049R-1f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:11:56 +0000 Received: from mbox1.netikka.net ([213.250.81.202]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEr3h-0005RA-OP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:11:55 +0000 Received: from hupu.netikka.net (hupu [172.16.83.91]) by mbox1-feedback.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE021271738 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:11:47 +0200 (EET) Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by hupu.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8BF04B0045 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:11:47 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4AC3495B70 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:11:47 +0200 (EET) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:11:47 +0200 Message-ID: <1259529107.4b12e393a0c23@imp.netikka.net> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:11:47 +0200 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AA6D@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> <9F3AD1B305084F15AA47A8061538AD5F@lindavideo> In-Reply-To: <9F3AD1B305084F15AA47A8061538AD5F@lindavideo> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,BIZ_TLD=1.169 Subject: Re: LF: Re: AW: 4kv diode Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BIZ_TLD autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Here is an "in between" diode, 12kV 500mA. Available at Partco: http://www.partco.biz/verkkokauppa/product_info.php?cPath=3D2075_11_1012_1= 815&products_id=3D2946 BR Paul-Henrik Quoting Ken : > Hi Stefan. > Thanks Stefan, do you have a source for either the BV8 or the BV16?, I= have > been unable to find one. > > 73 > Ken > M0KHW > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Stefan Sch=E4fer > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 6:05 PM > Subject: LF: AW: 4kv diode > > > Hi Ken, > > My hint is to try a BV8 Diode. It is able to take 500mA. On my work,= I have > good experiences with the BV16, the 16kV Version. > > Each one costs abt 1=80. Three in parallel, thermal coupled, should be= no > problem at all. And: there=B4s no need for extra cooling! > > > > 73, Stefan > > > > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Ken > Gesendet: Sonntag, 29. November 2009 12:05 > An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Betreff: LF: 4kv diode > > > > Hello All. > > I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or equivalent diode, BY4 4kv @ 1A, BY6= 6kv > @ 1A, I have searched the web and looked in Farnell, any ideas please. > > > > 73. > > Ken > > > > M0KHW > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD084-92a4b0bb7e5d2; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 05:39:47 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD102-92a4b0bb7e5d2; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 05:39:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCsnX-0004iO-DG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:39:03 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCsnW-0004iF-Sp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:39:02 +0000 Received: from col0-omc1-s6.col0.hotmail.com ([65.55.34.16]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCsnT-0000sJ-NL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:39:02 +0000 Received: from COL122-W57 ([65.55.34.8]) by col0-omc1-s6.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:37:58 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:37:58 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Nov 2009 10:37:58.0741 (UTC) FILETIME=[30A3D850:01CA6CF2] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_68040505-3014-409b-8f0e-9589f9eba75c_" Subject: LF: XKO X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --_68040505-3014-409b-8f0e-9589f9eba75c_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_d0d6bac3-462f-44f2-ae85-8ec912da3a57_" --_d0d6bac3-462f-44f2-ae85-8ec912da3a57_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello LF! I saw nice signal from XKO this morning. 73! Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS =20 _________________________________________________________________ Nov=E1 Windows 7: Zjedodu=B9te si ka=BEdodenn=ED =FAkoly. Kter=FD po=E8=ED= ta=E8 je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD? http://windows.microsoft.com/shop=3D --_d0d6bac3-462f-44f2-ae85-8ec912da3a57_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello LF!
I saw nice signal from XKO this morning.

73!

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relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCvlY-0002DA-2m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:49:14 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KTM00MCP91PGL@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:49:01 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:48:41 +0100 From: henny van elst To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <8613F866EF3B4051A10B42518470A926@ns94d01ae4d850> <4B0BD672.7000909@inext.at> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: ODL 24-11.jpg Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Tu Ossi, henny cpm best 73s ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oberreiter Oswald" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 1:49 PM Subject: Re: LF: ODL 24-11.jpg > hallo henny ! > thank you fer report > your signal today 136.550 cpm good 15 db over n. here jn68rd > 73 ossi > oe5odl > > henny van elst schrieb: >> Hi LF >> capture ODL, >> strong signal, >> henny pa3cpm >> 73s >> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden >> verzonden: >> ODL 24-11.jpg >> >> Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen >> virussen het 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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.79/2522 - Release Date: 11/23/09 19:45:00 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb04.mx.aol.com (rly-mb04.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.162]) by air-mb04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB044-cfe4af6cadb1ce; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:42:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB042-cfe4af6cadb1ce; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:42:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N781j-0006Kw-D9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:41:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N781i-0006Kn-VW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:41:54 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N780k-0000Do-OT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:40:55 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.6] (opc1.twatt.home [192.168.1.6]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5588F3B535 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:41:50 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4AF6CA9E.70403@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:41:50 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <019f01ca6061$34a80040$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20091108120711.z1zbaakm0cw0cocg@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <01cd01ca6068$54f09a40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20091108141505.zsudabk1wg80k848@webmail6.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20091108141505.zsudabk1wg80k848@webmail6.kuleuven.be> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: daytime WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Rik, LF Just copied you at 13:36 on 2 different RX setups. The usual ALA1530 loop/IC-R75 shows in the WSPR database, at -30dB! My HF vertical fed via MF tuned pre-amp to an IC718 (not reported to WSPRnet) showed at -16dB!! That's 1102km.... I'll leave the second system running for another hour or so, and reporting to WSPRnet Cheers John GM4SLV Rik Strobbe wrote: > My WSPR 0.2W ERP signal was copied by GM0LLJ (774km) at 12:58 UTC > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me01.mx.aol.com (rly-me01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.34]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME083-9964af88e40239; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:48:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME012-9964af88e40239; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:48:51 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7c5U-0004py-7y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:47:48 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7c5T-0004pp-PR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:47:47 +0000 Received: from smtp826.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.189.240]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7c5Q-0006EO-Qx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:47:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 58629 invoked from network); 9 Nov 2009 21:47:39 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=ZwidTEptxh5p58gbFCTAuK0Q3XNGe2oEku/PTLCmHDCyrAzo/j2sWjc8WOgyjKm2Sc+wAQ19S6KDubbo4hJ/6hDCPA9VdkBKP2t2jvxITtiwIEyp5h8vCUuhnu17/+tJXbAoKyl5xQ9muWb0tTL1B7WyKy2P/TsI4LSiCI9LG/Q= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@213.122.42.14 with login) by smtp826.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Nov 2009 21:47:38 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: KHdpK2OswBBXlm4uxknbEiS4uYdJoGknHN90u4K8__lTafnafZg- X-YMail-OSG: xorvAv0VM1nM9gDMP_NwEUh_Sjl9pJQve16tKbLV1yGI0FGAkyqkiPyNIWwuielYlH7Ss8UnBwX_IrPDQphiLo6bTESqaNe.yCU7sSJimI7NfEj6wOuH3eB7.6n3AOUzgzQQjvEBVlkq56E53gtBYFOr5N7nFLMyIj3znZU.bxY5.oAMyISBu_Zm5Py4GRimf4p4ni8Yp5BveIa1s39PVutVI6a0bMnt8xN_fn.kY.rDOr824sYHYyngPuBTc0JwIhrwGy6N.9TMFpdKUHnyBZO9fAgofJOXdKQguWco182v.QVjEyGt5.92TfPLqFZofF7byKAlBq5finI20de5m4A3Tqg- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <000001ca6186$436317c0$0900a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: MCSID(1).941917242 <200911091000250405.1609D0BF@smtp2.numeo.fr> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:34:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Fwd: The death of Loran -again? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi John, that URL you copied from Rob doesnt work for me. There is othing on the Megapulse site of the USCG sire about it closing, the budget is not cut it is reduced and I guess USCG have to decide how best to spend it. I dont expect it to affect the French who being,.... well, French ?..... will continue to go their own way!! Do you have 1pps GPS capability?? eke "Clicklock" as there is an interesting project that may come up. Only resures a sound card and an AM receiver and a GPS 1pps Best Wishes to you and Rosie Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "John RABSON" To: Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 9:00 AM Subject: LF: Fwd: The death of Loran -again? > > Received from Rob Gill : > > > > >Possibly more likely this time? > > > >Questex link: > >http://www.gpsworld.com/node/9087Loran > > > >Rob > > F5VLF > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me01.mx.aol.com (rly-me01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.34]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME082-99a4af98e8b2ed; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:02:47 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME016-99a4af98e8b2ed; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:02:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7t93-0007Qv-Nw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:00:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7t93-0007Qm-47 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:00:37 +0000 Received: from omta2.toronto.rmgopenwave.com ([4.59.182.100]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7t8F-0007UA-DI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:59:48 +0000 Received: from torspm02.toronto.rmgopenwave.com ([142.177.105.200]) by tormtz02.toronto.rmgopenwave.com (InterMail vM.8.00.01.00 201-2244-105-20090324) with ESMTP id <20091110160007.FFCI24184.tormtz02.toronto.rmgopenwave.com@torspm02.toronto.rmgopenwave.com> for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:00:07 -0500 Received: from JimPC ([142.177.105.200]) by torspm02.toronto.rmgopenwave.com with ESMTP id <20091110160004.CNVS20471.torspm02.toronto.rmgopenwave.com@JimPC>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:00:04 -0500 From: "Jim and Hannelore Fisher" To: , "rsgb lf group" Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:00:00 -0000 Message-ID: <001101ca621e$dcdc3380$96949a80$@princeton.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcpiHtu8aJMvchJjS4G0hgm+KIL5DA== Content-Language: en-ca X-Opwv-CommTouchExtSvcRefID: str=0001.0A020206.4AF98E07.02BC,ss=1,fgs=0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500 kHz WSPR de VE1JF Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01CA621E.DCDC3380" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01CA621E.DCDC3380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Congratulations on #1000, G3XIZ! I chair the Radio Amateurs of Canada (RAC) LF/MF/HF Band Planning Committee, and several of us are interested in participating in the recently-authorized Canadian Developmental Service experiments on 500 kHz. We are receiving active support on this effort from the Regulatory Affairs wing of RAC, who are Industry Canada's gatekeepers. This period is preliminary to the coming world meeting where this will be discussed. We hope to get several stations transmitting 25% of the time and a lot more across Canada receiving, so it should add to WSPR's activity and spotting at this frequency. I'm not sure what you were saying about hand-sent CW vs. WSPR; I also love CW but am amazed what WSPR can offer. Other authorized Canadian participants in this program are already using CW, and most of my 100,000+ QSOs over 53+ years have been CW, but we are expecting our little group to propose two frequencies (we must be specific) and use 503.9 WSPR beacon mode, break in using the WSJT WSPR mode, and QSY to our "working frequency", where we can use any mode within the 1 kHz permissible bandwidth. Contenders for working frequency QSOs might vary from some of the JT modes to OLIVIA to CW depending on what signal levels we are experiencing with feasible antennas and our power limitations. The purpose of all this will be able to understand whether 600M can offer utility for ham radio-scale stations for emergency, and how its usability varies with conditions including aurora. Last night, using my 160M 1/2w sloper aimed at the Pacific Rim, I spotted SM6BHZ over 40 times on 502.4+. We are looking for info on successful approaches to generating WSPR and other modes on 500 kHz. I'm presently thinking of a transverter with my transceiver's transverter output, but I'm open and others in our group may want to try other approaches. 73, Jim, VE1JF ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01CA621E.DCDC3380 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Congratulations on #1000, G3XIZ!

 

I chair the Radio Amateurs of Canada (RAC) LF/MF/= HF Band Planning Committee, and several of us are interested in participating= in the recently-authorized Canadian Developmental Service experiments on 500= kHz. We are receiving active support on this effort from the Regulatory Affair= s wing of RAC, who are Industry Canada’s gatekeepers. This period is preli= minary to the coming world meeting where this will be discussed. We hope to get= several stations transmitting 25% of the time and a lot more across Canada receiving,= so it should add to WSPR’s activity and spotting at this frequency.

 

I’m not sure what you were saying about han= d-sent CW vs. WSPR; I also love CW but am amazed what WSPR can offer.  Othe= r authorized Canadian participants in this program are already using CW, and most= of my 100,000+ QSOs over 53+ years have been CW, but we are expecting our little grou= p to propose two frequencies (we must be specific) and use 503.9 WSPR beacon mode,= break in using the WSJT WSPR mode, and QSY to our “working frequency̶= 1;, where we can use any mode within the 1 kHz permissible bandwidth. Contenders= for working frequency QSOs might vary from some of the JT modes to OLIVIA= to CW depending on what signal levels we are experiencing with feasible ante= nnas and our power limitations. The purpose of all this will be able to underst= and whether 600M can offer utility for ham radio-scale stations for emerge= ncy, and how its usability varies with conditions including aurora.<= /p>

 

Last night, using my 160M 1/2w sloper aimed at th= e Pacific Rim, I spotted SM6BHZ over 40 times on 502.4+.

 

We are looking for info on successful approaches= to generating WSPR and other modes on 500 kHz. I’m presently thinki= ng of a transverter with my transceiver’s transverter output, but I̵= 7;m open and others in our group may want to try other approaches.

 

73,

 

Jim, VE1JF

 

 

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_0012_01CA621E.DCDC3380-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df04.mx.aol.com (rly-df04.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.17]) by air-df04.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDF041-5454b129f0720; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:19:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF044-5454b129f0720; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:19:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEmTg-00027Q-TU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:18:24 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEmTf-00027H-TN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:18:23 +0000 Received: from n18.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.145]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEmTf-0003PG-H7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:18:23 +0000 Received: from [68.142.194.243] by n18.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2009 16:18:17 -0000 Received: from [68.142.201.240] by t1.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2009 16:18:17 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp401.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2009 16:18:17 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 94390.41997.bm@omp401.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 56644 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2009 16:18:16 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=mp9aem41wLwyYHIMEcYjwOAgOw79F339WfQOnbv/viGRBj/z59sc71jf95Bf/erQMVCHj0o5LuDkEadGOsbLvgD3iItg0VFvbi5w/XsXI5KdqrQHk0RxPXPhwoNnKjpaN99cjt4fxf6psiXa3MAMGxu2qV81BlCNHqffqwVQ6Y0= ; Received: from host86-138-92-60.range86-138.btcentralplus.com (ken.h.wright@86.138.92.60 with login) by smtp144.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2009 08:18:16 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: 9Y6mUHuswBAgnrOsukIiNdFDf95uy_Dz34nY1hlg2liKgYD952sjbg-- X-YMail-OSG: 5sEC98kVM1lKy2Yxz5KttCFZj.XgrrLUFgpDDLVbeBhxZJdj7W2CbVsAKBchgSiwpPMQf2y6glUbebXxmRr56qXzVJD3cTPedR_TGbhFjOYsai908vGPoUfA4zUYKCmuI0ol2EYuTsFk4G3sEu8_MEuI6GiGOaCr7Fq6F._AkSkxQ0_lKtNDrF7PRDmdmmW1Kyrq33N7QubGSnXORYu6qvSVnV5AbZHWMf6lyPFBpQG8iqCQfwEFTE7nYHk6FeIdno.wfD29atjaGf6yiXsut3vAbv_U8OqY0sayOY9f6Pf3LfB33Sug_EqftdorqkxAF0BMg9lkFESPvWEGr27x31d4 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "Ken" To: References: <2746F3E144D3480AB85CD466920B1313@lindavideo> <003001ca70e7$24aaf3a0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <003c01ca70eb$0aa52120$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <4B126AF9.3050300@ntlworld.com> <005001ca70f9$f63904e0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <1259505915.4b1288fb018a7@imp.netikka.net> <1259509899.4b12988b783b8@imp.netikka.net> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:18:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv diode Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Paul. If I could locate some BY1800 or BY2000 (1800v & 2000 V) that would be better, but again have not found a stockist, the BY255 were from Germany. Ken M0KHW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul-Henrik" To: Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 3:51 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv diode Ok Ken Further I would not worry as much regarding the voltage rating of the equalizing resistors. Use physically large units with an adequate power rating (U^2 / R) and they will probably be fine. After all there are more stories out there about blown diodes than equalizing resistor flash-overs. Are you sure you can't squeeze in at least three diodes per leg? This would ease the equalizing resistor voltage requirements a bit too. Just two BY255's per leg sounds scary for 2.3kV peak. BR Paul-Henrik Quoting Ken : > Hi Paul. > On my last mailing I got the BY255 current wrong. > > Ken > > M0KHW > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul-Henrik" > To: > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 2:45 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv diode > > > BY255 should be a suitable building block rated 1300V PIV 3A. > > Use equalizing resistors in parallell with each diode, typical values used > are > 470...820kohm. Only controlled avalanche diodes can be series connected > safely > without a reverse voltage equalizing network. > > Make sure you implement a healthy safety marigin, ie. don't use just as > many > diodes needed to acheive the needed voltage rating. Using 3 amp diodes > when > 1 > amp is called for is no luxury either. You don't want to hear the sound of > an > angry rattlesnake from your thunderbox... this sound is often followed by > popping and oozing electrolytic capacitors. > > > Good luck and please don't get zapped > > Paul-Henrik > > Quoting mal hamilton : > > > Yes series for more V parallel for more I(amps) and preferable some R > > and > > C > > across each except they are really identical. > > mal/g3kev > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: David Towers > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 12:37 PM > > Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv diode > > > > > > Hi Mal > > surely "in series" to give a 4 KV diode at 1amp ? > > dave G8SZX > > > > > > > > mal hamilton wrote: > > Ken > > On the serious side, use 6 x 1Kvolt @ 1A in parallel if u are stuck. > > Don't get zapped > > 73 mal/g3kev > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: mal hamilton > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:28 AM > > Subject: LF: Re: 4kv diode > > > > > > Electric Chair Co > > Zapenda Cul de sac > > Hellda State > > Zip73 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Ken > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:04 AM > > Subject: LF: 4kv diode > > > > > > Hello All. > > I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or equivalent diode, BY4 4kv @ > > 1A, > > BY6 6kv @ 1A, I have searched the web and looked in Farnell, any ideas > > please. > > > > 73. > > Ken > > > > M0KHW > > > > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG082-a284b0004561dd; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:38:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG082-a284b0004561dd; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:38:31 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9fI6-0006rS-Hp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:37:18 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9fI6-0006rJ-48 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:37:18 +0000 Received: from smtp21.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.1]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9fI4-0007ov-9j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:37:18 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2119.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 45D4570000A1 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:37:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (213.212.194-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.194.212.213]) by msfrf2119.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id F1C1070000A0 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:37:04 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091115133704990.F1C1070000A0@msfrf2119.sfr.fr Message-ID: <000601ca65f8$bb996ed0$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:37:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! 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------=_NextPart_000_0003_01CA6601.1CEB17D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (rly-mg07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.113]) by air-mg07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG073-a244afd82461ff; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:59:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG076-a244afd82461ff; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:59:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8yXH-0003Qw-Om for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:58:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8yXH-0003Qn-9H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:58:07 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s21.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8yXG-0007T8-1i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:58:07 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W37 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s21.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:57:59 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [216.137.223.53] From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China To: Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:57:59 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <57a24ca70911130745v28eb2295y41cf2c9591cd044e@mail.gmail.com> References: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Nov 2009 15:57:59.0720 (UTC) FILETIME=[12C57A80:01CA647A] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_HEADER_CTYPE_ONLY=0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_e362cbc7-0423-4a11-9b69-34ea1c97ba18_" Subject: RE: LF: Last chance saloon 500 from Alaska X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING,MIME_HEADER_CTYPE_ONLY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_e362cbc7-0423-4a11-9b69-34ea1c97ba18_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Warren - still some way to go. The shack is still essentially "dark" bu= t I have been running very low power on a couple of transmitters Ive buil= t whilst in China and Singapore just to see if they actually put out power= ! =20 Im getting close to where I want to be on rx senstivity and s/n, which is= a big step forward this short vacation trip; have a little way to go on= 137 with some weak impulsive noise from somewhere, but very happy now wit= h 500.=20 =20 So its been a valuable couple of days at home. Trouble is of course theres= a whole list of other things that need doing and I get only a few days to= do them too...dig/push snow from A to B via C seems to be upper on this= list at the moment... =20 Ill be back for Christmas and hopefully by then Ill know where Ill be work= ing next year - hopefully in AK but not sure in this market place... =20 Laurence =20 > Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:45:44 -0500 > From: wd2xgj@gmail.com > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: Last chance saloon 500 from Alaska >=20 > Laurence, > When will you have TX capability from Alaska!? >=20 > --=20 > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ > WD2XSH/23 > WE2XEB/2 > WE2XGR/1 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Laurence BY3A-KL1X China > wrote: > > Im leaving for China in the morning to go back to work but will be lis= tening > > on CW/QRSS on 500 and 138 over the next hour or so if anyone wants to= have a > > go from Eu on the dawn/dusk Alaska path. > > > > The receiver will hopefully stay on here in Alaska and Ill be able to > > "listen" remotely. > > > > Over the Pole didnt sound too bright as DCF39 wasnt that strong here= but > > things do change pretty quickly at times. As ever Im still on Rx onl= y > > until I get more time. > > > > Ill be back here for Christmas... > > > > Laurence WE2 XPQ Part 5 Experimental > > KL1X Wasilla Palmer Alaska BP51 IP > > Will be KL1X/BY3A Tianjin China > > > > ________________________________ > > Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try= it now. >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ > WD2XSH/23 > WE2XEB/2 > WE2XGR/1 >=20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=3D9690331&ocid=3DPID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL= :en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009=3D --_e362cbc7-0423-4a11-9b69-34ea1c97ba18_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Warren - still some way to go. The shack is still essentially "dark" bu= t I have been running very  low power on a couple of transmitters Ive= built whilst in China and Singapore just to see if they actually put out= power!
 
 Im getting close to where I want to be on rx senstivity and s/n, whi= ch is a big step forward this short vacation trip; have a little way to go= on 137 with some weak impulsive noise from somewhere, but very happy now= with 500.
 
So its been a valuable couple of days at home. Trouble is of course= theres a whole list of other things that need doing and I get only a few= days to do them too...dig/push snow from A to B via  C seems to= be upper on this list at the moment...
 
Ill be back for Christmas and hopefully by then Ill know where Ill be work= ing next year - hopefully in AK but not sure in this market place...
 
Laurence
 
> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:45:44 -0500
>= From: wd2xgj@gmail.com
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>= Subject: Re: LF: Last chance saloon 500 from Alaska
>
> Laur= ence,
> When will you have TX capability from Alaska!?
>
&= gt; --
> 73 Warren K2ORS
> WD2XGJ
> WD2XSH/23
>= WE2XEB/2
> WE2XGR/1
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov= 13, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Laurence BY3A-KL1X China
> <hellozerohello= zero@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Im leaving for China in the morni= ng to go back to work but will be listening
> > on CW/QRSS on 500= and 138 over the next hour or so if anyone wants to have a
> >= go from Eu on the dawn/dusk Alaska path.
> >
> >= The receiver will hopefully stay on here in Alaska and Ill be able to
= > > "listen" remotely.
> >
> > Over the Pole didnt= sound too bright as DCF39 wasnt that strong here but
> > things= do change pretty quickly at times. As  ever  Im still on Rx onl= y
> > until I get more time.
> >
> > Ill be bac= k here for Christmas...
> >
> > Laurence WE2 XPQ Part 5= Experimental
> > KL1X Wasilla Palmer Alaska BP51 IP
> >= Will be KL1X/BY3A Tianjin China
> >
> > _______________= _________________
> > Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews or= ganized in one place. Try it now.
>
>
>
> -- > 73 Warren K2ORS
> WD2XGJ
> WD2XSH/23
> WE2XEB/2> WE2XGR/1
>

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Learn more. =3D --_e362cbc7-0423-4a11-9b69-34ea1c97ba18_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB081-aba4af78add1a2; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:22:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB038-aba4af78add1a2; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:22:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7KoD-0002Xb-GJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:20:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7KoC-0002XS-SI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:20:48 +0000 Received: from qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.59.212]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7KnH-00040v-Hk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:19:52 +0000 Received: from OMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.43]) by QMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 2oNR1d0020vyq2s5ErLg3W; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:20:40 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([76.23.233.102]) by OMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 2rLf1d0092DDHkk3RrLfjU; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:20:40 +0000 Message-ID: <007a01ca60eb$9cb96fe0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep" Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:20:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: 500 kHz TA report Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 500 kHz TA enthusiasts Suprisingly good TA conditions of late. Had nice QSO (cw) with Finbar, EI0CF, last night and again tonight with good signals reports both directions. These QSOs are about a month earlier than those of the past two years. Not sure if it's conditions or that we just didn't attempt it early enough last year. Jack, VX9ZZZ in Nova Scotia has also been in QSO with Finbar and reports hearing other EU stations besides Finbar even well before his sunset. I've heard Jack calling CQ evenings starting around NS sunset on 504 kHz and he tunes the band looking for answers. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 506.5 kHz From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (rly-dg10.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.94]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG073-5fd4b0c7f5c22d; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:50:48 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG108-5fd4b0c7f5c22d; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:50:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ND64i-000090-N0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:49:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ND64i-00008r-5V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:49:40 +0000 Received: from smtp823.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.233]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ND64h-00056F-4m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:49:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 6433 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2009 00:49:33 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=VXt7J5TcNeHZ1hkT4Mp2xi8WKJaLhwlifVP9rcH+rQb2NO00wTzbHjmhGntyiE+jLJRrh+ZGI3UhJGj4lhOJ294yTnxGOVjw2BA0q4CDffsSUSmETzu6Z59sBkBiv3fBO5YVXZAIQfVNKAzXEhoST3nJGq4ktLAz/uhiBSyVgE8= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@81.131.61.8 with login) by smtp823.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 2009 00:49:32 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: KHdpK2OswBBXlm4uxknbEiS4uYdJoGknHN90u4K8__lTafnafZg- X-YMail-OSG: Q5LLnHUVM1nlNyzZEe8hqjD8Z0wgdTast_gUTZEooHZ7GJq8eIQrJ13rL8Eb4FnT7lz.28PSzIfPXevBGyBJF2wVpbH81dHv1TgHzj3eDEvE_BGAvR.TiKZXl0YVCyWLO4EwAbHh.VevJPxZLvrJz3kzC.pxbO8UdtOD1igO8KtPTjKLb_aVAuhygBZp7IEb0CfPEGfgyTlDDaSeasbUK9fP_HuHerrVcRjOcvBsempkXOwkyeTP3QWXUPdbceY3cH_CzHck_ACVZEtT72QEsaWWeao3PSztarZdSJAwtJSAKsUfgkFxBwCKqNq6PNvq_8Z5LslOzgLSChRK8_MSGc5lbPE- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <006701ca6d69$3a7a55d0$0900a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <9afca2640911241140j230515e9kcbcaffd3911ccb82@mail.gmail.com> <9afca2640911241227o2150e5ddn71496f2423f50633@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:40:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: IRF510 500kHz PA stability issues - advice please Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Roger the FET should be rated to have a minimum operating voltage of at least 4 times the supply volts......... I guess you are using 12v?? This is quite inefficient with switching fets and the design impedance is very low. Are you using the right grade capacitors? This is most important, they should be Pulse Rated as used in Switch-Mode power supplies. Ordinary high voltage caps will not pass the level of RF current and will often fuse the connection between a foil and lead-out wire leading to a steadily lower value of capacitance and a mis-tuned PA. This is the case even with low power (a few watts) the RF current at low impedances can be several amps. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Lapthorn" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:27 PM Subject: Re: LF: IRF510 500kHz PA stability issues - advice please > Andy, > > Thanks for the quick feedback. The 500kHz antenna is a 5m long vertical with > a spiral top hat. It is fed via a (thickish) ferrite rod wound with the > required inductance to resonate and this is tapped at the 50 ohm point (very > low down - just a couple of turns). Well that is the general idea! > > Yes the IRF510 is rated at 100V. > > 73s > Roger > > > 2009/11/24 Andy Talbot > > > If you've studied the drain waveform when operating inrto a correct > > load, and assuming its all within design guidelines, then the trouble > > is because of nasty impedances presented by the antenna during the > > tuning process. > > > > What sort of antenna matching are you using? The often suggested idea > > of an an adjustable tap onto the loading coil can lead to damage as, > > when the antenna is detuned, the small number of turns of the link, > > with an untuned coil, appear not far different from a short circuit. > > A Class E PA, when presented with a slightly inductive short circuit > > can get a bit stressed. > > > > On my antenna over the years on 73, 137 now 500kHz the system has > > always been fed in series, using a ferrite tapped transformer to match > > load impedance. I kept well away from tapped or link windings as > > they are not easy to calculate or predict reliably. WIth a series fed > > system, a detuned antenna results in a high impedance. This may not > > always good news either to some class-E designs, but all my LF/MF PAs > > are completely open-circuit-proof voltage fed designs. The only > > true class-E one here was for 1.8MHz, and can be seen at > > http://www.g4jnt.com/TopbandPA.pdf . This was completely imune to > > open and short circuits and seemed very robust; but I did use the > > meatier and more robust higher voltage IRF540. Doesn't the IRF510 only > > have a 100V rating? > > > > Andy > > www.g4jnt.com > > > > This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health > > and safety police > > > > > > > > 2009/11/24 Roger Lapthorn : > > > I've been using a single IRF510 FET PA stage on 500kHz and it produces > > > around 6-7W of RF. But, when adjusting my antenna I've managed to damage > > > several devices now. I think the stage is running somewhere towards > > class-E > > > looking at the PA drain waveform on the scope and I believe either the > > stage > > > is going unstable or it is running in a condition in which too much > > current > > > (and heat) is taken and the device fails.500kHz teh ant > > > > > > Are there any simple "rules of thumb" or design/biasing/decoupling > > > guidelines to ensure that my devices don't destroy themselves with a less > > > than perfect load? > > > > > > Any simple advice would be appreciated. > > > > > > 73s > > > Roger G3XBM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > > > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > > > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > > > > > > > > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA052-a6b4af6feaf14; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:24:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA053-a6b4af6feaf14; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:24:01 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7BTv-0007bZ-2v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:23:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7BTu-0007bQ-N7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:23:14 +0000 Received: from mailout09.t-online.de ([194.25.134.84]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7BSx-0001VU-6S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:22:15 +0000 Received: from fwd00.aul.t-online.de by mailout09.t-online.de with smtp id 1N7BTr-0000Zl-00; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:23:11 +0100 Received: from [192.168.2.22] (Xdtqe8Z1whkdsOoHLOmO6g96WdBOeP3MnpW8zBcaTEUb3tvTV23JQrxbRw4G8rYZ4g@[93.211.84.232]) by fwd00.t-online.de with esmtp id 1N7BTk-0pNfai0; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:23:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de References:<20091108130141.ptdpp5udwsc8ksc4@webmail6.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To:<20091108130141.ptdpp5udwsc8ksc4@webmail6.kuleuven.be> To: X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.08.0003 Date: 08 Nov 2009 17:22 GMT Message-ID: <1N7BTk-0pNfai0@fwd00.t-online.de> X-ID: Xdtqe8Z1whkdsOoHLOmO6g96WdBOeP3MnpW8zBcaTEUb3tvTV23JQrxbRw4G8rYZ4g X-TOI-MSGID: 7d16e51f-b60e-4e33-9b1c-cb5e2f8e7c96 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: New allocations for Norwegian radio Amateurs Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear all to my understanding the 100 watts within the new norwegian rules for 500 kHz is the output power of the transmitter. HW? 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB "Rik Strobbe" schrieb: > just received this > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > ----- Doorgestuurd bericht van la2rr@broadpark.no ----- > Datum: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 12:50:29 +0100 > Van: Ole Garpestad > > Hi folks, > > For your information: > > > New secondary allocations for Norwegian radio amateurs > > As of November 6th 2009 the updated amateur radio licensing > regulations in Norway went into force. > The main news are the following new allocations made available to all > Norwegian radio amateurs (in addition to the 135,7 - 137,8 kHz and the > 7,1 - 7,2 MHz bands): > > LF: > 493 - 510 kHz on secondary basis, 100 W, A1A (CW) only. > > HF: > 5260 - 5410 kHz on secondary basis, all modes (6 kHz max bandwidth) > 24740-24890 kHz on secondary basis, 1kW (6 kHz max bandwidth) > > VHF > 70,0625-70,0875 MHz on secondary basis, 100 W, max bandwidth 16 kHz > 70,1375-70,1875 MHz on secondary basis, 100 W, max bandwidth 16 kHz > 70,2625-70,3125 MHz on secondary basis, 100 W, max bandwidth 16 kHz > 70,3625-70,3875 MHz on secondary basis, 100 W, max bandwidth 16 kHz > 70,4125-70,4625 MHz on secondary basis, 100 W, max bandwidth 16 kHz > > and some minor adjustments at SHF and EHF. > > As of today the full text is only available in Norwegian, but let me > know if you need any additional info, I will assist as best i can (the > URL for the Norwegian text is > http://www.lovdata.no/ltavd1/filer/sf-20091105-1340.html ). > > 73 > Ole, LA2RR > > > > > > > > ----- Einde doorgestuurd bericht ----- > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD083-9084b0b4f7774; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:14:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD058-9084b0b4f7774; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:14:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NClpl-0003mF-Ig for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 03:12:53 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NClpk-0003m6-VI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 03:12:53 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s29.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.40]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NClph-00072H-AX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 03:12:52 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W10 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s29.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:12:38 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [60.24.183.8] From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China To: Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:12:38 -0900 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Nov 2009 03:12:38.0563 (UTC) FILETIME=[FA2C3F30:01CA6CB3] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_7439f2a0-d09c-46dd-bb00-6eb9312c1b35_" Subject: LF: China QRT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_7439f2a0-d09c-46dd-bb00-6eb9312c1b35_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 I have to take the LF/MF antennae down this evening from the apartment roo= f as I pack to leave China -=20 =20 The Alaska grabber has been somewhat automated http://www.kl1x.com/screen.= html or if you like the raw screen its http://kl1x.com/Alaska00000.jpg =20 73 =20 Laurence KL1X in BY3A, but not for long. =20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: It works the way you want. 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The Alaska grabber has been somewhat automated http://www.kl1x.com/screen.html
or if you like the raw screen its http://kl1x.com/Alaska00000.jpg
 
73
 
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Learn more. =3D --_7439f2a0-d09c-46dd-bb00-6eb9312c1b35_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA053-a984af45c191ca; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:26:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA108-a984af45c191ca; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:25:48 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6SYH-0005kH-LW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:24:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6SYH-0005k8-09 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:24:45 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6SX7-0007mG-RR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:23:35 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so1437269bwz.4 for ; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:24:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xwHL+GsDf4tiP7aPjMkZHia+sZePr/PTSYGylkR3YII=; b=WkAV1lNldiBZ2+0eOsWD/p5zjUpkDnDDsjEk3vIZyG3PMnmToewBEduEc2cPh4WCJn PEoZigEKa15xlqF81Miz+cLeGgdOrtRDipHQyk7SD6aXYg0QnM+5yui96gZ/SQ1Mkvxh Y4iUwsvZQGY+S2fZyamkS5GLGz0pUKeB/Iboc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=vwz4ITy53d+t5NpIrQJOogFRxm+jH7lyVgP24DpXSmq4o7NZQQnL4xvCU2Vk3Q/AC7 iQyCHPEZURFZMWwIwOGGkNaFvD0U5M72BU1DboMfkWmEkDWaD5U6HVcH2zg+AeOVjRil eqjXTrGBakjFszMBklX4MArWZ5RSHtP8okWyM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.155.90 with SMTP id r26mr1091685bkw.81.1257528276058; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:24:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <00e201ca5f04$44df8e50$0201a8c0@Clemens04> References: <9afca2640911060845r17eb75daracad4f874c3a1c9c@mail.gmail.com> <00e201ca5f04$44df8e50$0201a8c0@Clemens04> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 17:24:36 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911060924v7d0e8714occ2b94c91d1128ff@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: G3XBM: 500kHz ERP increased by 6dB - WSPR reports please Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175cfa6c3081710477b71efe X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d258.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0015175cfa6c3081710477b71efe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Currently I am on around 0.503910kHz and operating 10% on TX. I will increase this to 25% TX later in the evening when more stations are listening. Clemens, I hope you will be able to decode me this evening! 73s Roger G3XBM 2009/11/6 Clemens Paul > Roger, > > are you using the same dial frquency of 0.503910 +/-20Hz as before ? > When does your transmission start? > > 73 > Clemens > DL4RAJ > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Roger Lapthorn > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Sent:* Friday, November 06, 2009 5:45 PM > *Subject:* LF: G3XBM: 500kHz ERP increased by 6dB - WSPR reports please > > Today I modified my 500kHz antenna. The 28MHz halo up at the top of the > 5-6m vertical section (which was the coax feed to the 28MHz halo) was > removed and replaced by a spiral inductance/ top capacity hat consisting of > around around 8 "spiralling in" turns in the space occupied by the original > halo. Seeing my initial reports from M0BMU I am some *5-6dB stronger*than I was before, I guess because more of the antenna current is in the > vertical section. The measured antenna current is not much different though. > > *Please listen for me on 500kHz WSPR* and let me know if I am now stronger > than before. > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > > ------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.52/2484 - Release Date: 11/06/09 > 07:38:00 > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --0015175cfa6c3081710477b71efe Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Currently I am on around 0.503910kHz and operating 10% on TX.=A0 I will in= crease this to 25% TX later in the evening when more stations are listenin= g.

Clemens, I hope you will be able to decode me this evening!
<= br> 73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/11/6 Clemens Pau= l <cpaul@gmx.net= >
Roger,
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are you using the=20 same dial frquency of 0.503910= +/-20Hz as=20 before=A0?
When does your transmission start?
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73
Clemens
DL4RAJ
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009= 5:45=20 PM
Subject: LF: G3XBM: 500kHz ERP= increased=20 by 6dB - WSPR reports please

Today I modified my 500kHz antenna. The 28MHz halo up at= the=20 top of the 5-6m vertical section (which was the coax feed to the 28MHz= halo)=20 was removed and replaced by a spiral inductance/ top capacity hat consis= ting=20 of around around 8 "spiralling in" turns in the space occupied= by the original=20 halo.=A0 Seeing my initial reports from M0BMU I am some 5-6dB=20 stronger than I was before, I guess because more of the antenna curr= ent is=20 in the vertical section. The measured antenna current is not much differ= ent=20 though.

Please listen for me on 500kHz WSPR and let= me=20 know if I am now stronger than before.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM =A0=20 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088


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--0015175cfa6c3081710477b71efe-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINME084-99d4b13fa233f; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:00:30 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME021-99d4b13fa233f; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:00:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NF9aN-0007Ow-Ri for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:58:51 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NF9aN-0007On-CI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:58:51 +0000 Received: from warsl404pip2.highway.telekom.at ([195.3.96.113] helo=email.aon.at) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NF9aL-0003QR-Av for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:58:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 12914 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2009 16:58:42 -0000 Received: from 91-115-29-238.adsl.highway.telekom.at (HELO [192.168.1.101]) ([91.115.29.238]) (envelope-sender ) by smarthub98.highway.telekom.at (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 30 Nov 2009 16:58:42 -0000 From: Gerhard Hickl To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Disposition-Notification-To: gerhard.hickl@aon.at Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:58:42 +0100 Message-ID: <1259600322.2708.33.camel@gerhard-desktop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.1 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Testtransmission 137,685 OE3GHB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi all! In the moment I'm trying to test my TX and my antenna. I'm going to transmit from 1800z to 2000z today. Probably a bit longer. My Antenna is a Marconi, 12m vertically/top-loaded. The loading coil is about 2,4 mH and antenna input is about 35 Watts. The QRG will be 137,685 and the text is "TEST OE3GHB" repeated every 10 Minutes. My VFO is also still in development-state an so QRG could vary some cps. Please take the time and try to receive my signal. Reports are very appreciated. Thank you in advance. 73 and cheers OE3GHB Gerhard From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (rly-dc04.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.33]) by air-dc09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC092-b174afb281f382; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:09:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC043-b174afb281f382; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:09:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8KQV-0004Hx-JW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:08:27 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8KQU-0004Ho-Sa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:08:26 +0000 Received: from mx01.infotech.at ([213.174.240.1]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8KQS-0006fZ-CI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:08:26 +0000 Received: from [213.174.228.217] by mx01.infotech.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8KQR-0005yS-9o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:08:23 +0100 Message-ID: <4AFB27FB.6020702@inext.at> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:09:15 +0100 From: Oberreiter Oswald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1AC807D90B0B121E1F9A@kabelmail.de> In-Reply-To: <1AC807D90B0B121E1F9A@kabelmail.de> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: what is it? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) hallo Uwe ! danke fuer den raport , das ist ein qso von oe5odl mit oy2is beginn 0070z . du siehst hier nur oe5odl . freilaufender vfo mit einigen herz drift ,in qrss3 merkt man das kaum 73 de ossi oe5odl Uwe Jannsen schrieb: > Hi all, > > pse see: > > http://dj8wx-dl.de/captu38 > > regards > Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb01.mx.aol.com (rly-mb01.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.154]) by air-mb04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB043-cec4b034702271; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:00:06 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB018-cec4b034702271; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:59:48 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAYsk-0007hQ-TY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:58:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAYsk-0007hH-Ew for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:58:50 +0000 Received: from nina.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.76]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAYsi-0003kC-En for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:58:50 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by nina.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id nAI0wdS1017398 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:28:39 -0330 Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:28:39 -0330 (NST) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <961313.39040.qm@web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-ID: X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-1719232024-1686048482-1258133686=:14513" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 ---1719232024-1686048482-1258133686=:14513 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII; FORMAT=flowed Content-ID: Blimey... I've been exposed as a PIRATE! Polly, me parrot, (Newfoundland Puffin) is concerned I might be disciplined a with keel hauling or the cat-o-nine-tails! Shiver me timbers! For those who have worked VX9MRC and are losing sleep for fear of being asked to walk the plank by their licensing authority, please take comfort in the following: The General Radio Regulations defina a radio station as "a place wherein radio apparatus is located." VO1NA is duly "licensed" in Canada and is the radio station wherein is located the radiotelegraphic apparatus of VX9MRC, thanks to the kind efforts of the Marconi Radio Club of Newfoundland. The regulations state "No operator of an amateur station shall communicate with radio stations other than stations licensed in the amateur service" Therefore, any station that communicates with VX9MRC is communicating with a station licensed in the amateur serivce and does so accordance with the regulations. Alas, ye olde PIRATE who can evidently lob 10^30 big (600m) photons per second across the brine pond is but an amateur in legal matters. 73 Arrh me Hearties!!! Joe VO1NA On Fri, 13 Nov 2009, Andy Talbot wrote: > And who do you think would bother if you did work one ? > Who would even care ? > > Andy > www.g4jnt.com > > this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny state > > > 2009/11/13 M0FMT > >> The whole setup looks decidedly dodgy to me. If they are Pirates how >> would it affect my license if the opportunity arose for me to work one and I >> did? The only place I know where I am licensed work a non Amateur station is >> on 5megs and that can only be a UK Mill station. >> >> It's a question of how much you value your license I suppose. >> >> 73 petefmt >> >> >> --- On *Fri, 13/11/09, Graham * wrote: >> >> >> From: Graham >> Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature >> stations ?? >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 14:53 >> >> Scott >> >> SO.... Matter and antimatter cannot coexist at close range for more than a >> small fraction of a second because they collide with and annihilate each >> other, releasing large quantities of energy in the form of gamma rays >> >> Got it now .. gamma rays are electromagnetic ..hence radio waves are >> produced .. which may suffer (constructive interference) or (destructive >> interference) resulting in large variations in amplitude at the point of >> observation ..... >> >> Thanks ! >> >> G .. >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Scott Tilley" >>> >> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:29 PM >> To: >>> >> Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature >> stations ?? >> >>> >>> Hi John >>> >>> VX is in developmental service (same idea as US stations), EI in amateur >> service... 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Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:38:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB024-cf04b027d0fd; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:38:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NALQr-0001ug-7l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:37:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NALQq-0001uX-LV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:37:08 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s27.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.38]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NALQp-0006eG-M4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:37:08 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W15 ([65.55.116.7]) by blu0-omc1-s27.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:37:01 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [221.198.50.244] From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China To: Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:37:01 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20091117101339.C0775F3863@smtps02.kuleuven.be> References: <1f0624b90911160805u4435bd18ue805924594d8b997@mail.gmail.com>,<20091117081718.BDD6EF3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be>,<1f0624b90911170146i3b3201abh55b54fd75e56fa50@mail.gmail.com>,<4B027512.30004@ukonline.co.uk>,<20091117101339.C0775F3863@smtps02.kuleuven.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Nov 2009 10:37:01.0256 (UTC) FILETIME=[E57C1480:01CA6771] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_1f1707c1-f651-40c9-b1bc-0ec15939af03_" Subject: LF: Condx - and SDR IQ audio flatness? X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_1f1707c1-f651-40c9-b1bc-0ec15939af03_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Congrats all - =20 its a very (very) quiet night so far on LF/MF which may signify either ve= ry good or very bad, and am present looking for signals from NA - =20 =20 Im not that good to tell you which until Eu gets dark. Its not been very= good the past day or so with mediocre signals on 137 from DCF39 et al -= still Ill be looking on any desired freq.=20 =20 I can hear Loran clatter on 137 which means the local QRN is very low and= NDB "DD" (Located near Xlbreast, China) :-) is putting is a Fully develop= ed signal.=20 =20 Nice clear night here already and looking for some nice shooting stars..sa= w a couple of=20 spectacular ones last week in Mexico. =20 Anybody want to comment on whether their audio spectrum output from their= SDR IQ is a bit "lumpy" with not exactly flat levelling across the 1-4Khz= range? Maybe my soundcard but I see some variations of a couple of dBs on= this one... =20 Laurence KL1 X in BY3A =20 Still jetlagged. =20 =20 =20 =20 > Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:13:41 +0100 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be > Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6 >=20 > Peter, >=20 > likewise, I saw on Joe's website that you had a QRSS3 QSO with him=20 > earlier some days ago. >=20 > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >=20 > At 11:04 17/11/2009, you wrote: > >Congratulations Rik > > > >Peter, G3LDO > > > Rik, > > > > > > Well done. > > > > > > I should be in a position to attempt the same as I saw solid QRS > > > signals from Joe. > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > > > 2009/11/17 Rik Strobbe > > > > > > > > > Gary, All, > > > > > > yesterday I could copy VX9MRC in QRSS3 with a surprising strong > > > signal as early as 18 UTC, when I launched Argo. > > > Throughout the evening the signal was strong and with little QSB > > > from 19-22UTC, after that the signal became weaker with much more QS= B. > > > Probably because I had a sked with Joe at 22:40 UTC ;-) . > > > But despite all we managed to complete the QSO with both way M > > > report (would have been a solid O earlier the evening). > > > A first ON-VE QSO on 500kHz and with +/- 4075km a new DX record for= me > > > Joe transmitted on 507.770 and I on 501.190. > > > Between 19 and 22 UTC the signal was audible most of the time and > > > would have been CW copy if it were not squeezed between the NDB > > > "Z" carrier at 507.980 (S9+ here) the SM6BHZ CW/SSB test > > > transmissions (up to S9) and a local birdie on 507.600. > > > > > > For the QSO I was running 300W into my 11m high / 25m long lazy-L > > > antenna, estimated ERP about 1.5 Watt (at best, if the greenery > > > does not absorb too much) > > > > > > The night from Sunday - Monday I left Argo running, VX9MRC > > > produced a good signal all through the night and faded out at > > > 07UTC. This would mean that there is a potential transatlantic > > > path on 500kHz for 13h a day !!! > > > > > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > > > > > At 17:05 16/11/2009, you wrote: > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > Good signals from both stations last night. > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo. > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 >=20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=3DPID24727::T= :WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009v2=3D --_1f1707c1-f651-40c9-b1bc-0ec15939af03_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Congrats all -
 
 its a very (very) quiet night so far on LF/MF which may signify = ;either very good or very bad, and am present looking for signals from NA&= nbsp;-
 
 
Im not that good to tell you which until Eu gets dark. Its not been very= good the past day or so with mediocre signals on 137 from DCF39 et al &nb= sp;- still Ill be looking on any desired freq.
 
I can hear Loran clatter on 137 which means the local QRN is very low and= NDB "DD" (Located near Xlbreast, China) :-) is putting is a Fully develop= ed signal. 
 
Nice clear night here already and looking for some nice shooting star= s..saw a couple of
spectacular ones last week in Mexico.
 
Anybody want to comment on whether their audio spectrum output from= their SDR IQ is a bit "lumpy" with not exactly flat levelling across the= 1-4Khz range? Maybe my soundcard but I see some variations of a couple of= dBs on this one...
 
Laurence KL1 X in BY3A
 
Still jetlagged.
 
 
 
 
> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:13:41 +0100
> To: rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org
> From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be
> Subject: Re:= LF: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6
>
> Peter,
>
>= likewise, I saw on Joe's website that you had a QRSS3 QSO with him
&g= t; earlier some days ago.
>
> 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T
> > At 11:04 17/11/2009, you wrote:
> >Congratulations Rik
= > >
> >Peter, G3LDO
> > > Rik,
> > >= ;
> > > Well done.
> > >
> > > I shoul= d be in a position to attempt the same as I saw solid QRS
> > >= ; signals from Joe.
> > >
> > > Gary - G4WGT.
&= gt; > >
> > > 2009/11/17 Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@fys= .kuleuven.be
> > > <mailto:rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>&= gt;
> > >
> > > Gary, All,
> > >
&g= t; > > yesterday I could copy VX9MRC in QRSS3 with a surprising stro= ng
> > > signal as early as 18 UTC, when I launched Argo.
&= gt; > > Throughout the evening the signal was strong and with little= QSB
> > > from 19-22UTC, after that the signal became weaker= with much more QSB.
> > > Probably because I had a sked with= Joe at 22:40 UTC ;-) .
> > > But despite all we managed to co= mplete the QSO with both way M
> > > report (would have been= a solid O earlier the evening).
> > > A first ON-VE QSO on 50= 0kHz and with +/- 4075km a new DX record for me
> > > Joe tran= smitted on 507.770 and I on 501.190.
> > > Between 19 and 22= UTC the signal was audible most of the time and
> > > would= have been CW copy if it were not squeezed between the NDB
> > &g= t; "Z" carrier at 507.980 (S9+ here) the SM6BHZ CW/SSB test
> >= > transmissions (up to S9) and a local birdie on 507.600.
> >= >
> > > For the QSO I was running 300W into my 11m high /= 25m long lazy-L
> > > antenna, estimated ERP about 1.5 Watt= (at best, if the greenery
> > > does not absorb too much)
= > > >
> > > The night from Sunday - Monday I left Arg= o running, VX9MRC
> > > produced a good signal all through the= night and faded out at
> > > 07UTC. This would mean that ther= e is a potential transatlantic
> > > path on 500kHz for 13h a= day !!!
> > >
> > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T
>= > >
> > > At 17:05 16/11/2009, you wrote:
> >= >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > Good= signals from both stations last night.
> > >
> > >= ; Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.
> > >
> > >
> >= >
> > >
>
>

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Learn more. =3D --_1f1707c1-f651-40c9-b1bc-0ec15939af03_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de01.mx.aol.com (rly-de01.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.137]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE022-4b24b08433a6e; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:45:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE017-4b24b08433a6e; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:45:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBvsO-0000oh-IR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:44:08 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBvsO-0000oY-3P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:44:08 +0000 Received: from mta11.charter.net ([216.33.127.80]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBvsL-0002bq-Od for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:44:08 +0000 Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.10]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.02.04 201-2219-117-106-20090629) with ESMTP id <20091121194349.LZPE8038.mta11.charter.net@imp10> for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:43:49 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([66.189.74.84]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id 7vjp1d0021p78xe05vjpKZ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:43:49 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=dp29cS1FIpZGZuANZwQA:9 a=PRs45g_CN9bHfqTB7ocODxraN1wA:4 Message-ID: <4B0842F5.3080401@charter.net> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:43:49 -0500 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20091120134448.AZWVG.1555689.root@mp17> In-Reply-To: <20091120134448.AZWVG.1555689.root@mp17> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WD2XES WSPR 136.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) No reports received. 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John, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (rly-dd08.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.155]) by air-dd09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD093-b8f4b015f661d1; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:19:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD081-b8f4b015f661d1; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:19:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA2LV-0005sL-Ef for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:14:21 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA2LT-0005sC-T4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:14:20 +0000 Received: from mx33.mail.ru ([94.100.176.47]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA2LP-0007ti-Jl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:14:17 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=11795 helo=EFREMOV) by mx33.mail.ru with asmtp id 1NA2LJ-000OLK-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:14:09 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <001e01ca66c7$10041af0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: References: <004a01ca66be$7a813d30$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:14:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 500 daytime Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Mal, I am ready to receive here your qrss3. Though here evening... 73 Andrey Now active on 500 for daytime prop ck g3kev From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md09.mx.aol.com (rly-md09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.147]) by air-md04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD042-9234b0b0bf4261; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:26:17 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD093-9234b0b0bf4261; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:25:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NChLJ-00035B-De for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:25:09 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NChLI-000352-Sy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:25:08 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NChLH-0005r5-RX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:25:08 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81CD94C80B3 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:25:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B05A4C80DB for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:25:02 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B0B0BBE.9000109@online.fr> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:25:02 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <57a24ca70911231159k557ba717lbb0cf31cc7eb6e70@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <57a24ca70911231159k557ba717lbb0cf31cc7eb6e70@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: OE5ODL now ! 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------=_NextPart_000_0047_01CA66BE.7A184230-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df06.mx.aol.com (rly-df06.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.19]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF032-55c4aff6d5111a; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:54:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF067-55c4aff6d5111a; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:54:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9VEy-0002yX-Gd for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 02:53:24 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9VEy-0002yO-4k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 02:53:24 +0000 Received: from mcgi63.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.193]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9VEw-0007c0-H2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 02:53:24 +0000 Received: from mcgi63.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi63.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2DB211516 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:53:16 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [81.195.15.97] by mcgi63.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:53:11 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:53:11 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <287859382.1258239176.158750212.87677@mcgi38.rambler.ru> Message-Id: <1005027974.1258253591.69670536.14581@mcgi63.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Grabber is ON Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Now grabber is off. Looking locally to 507.770 and 507.300, but nothing any trace up to mode-30. * Roman RW3ADB [Sun, 15 Nov 2009 01:52:56 +0300]: > > > Hi Chris, Peter, LF! > My grabber started on up to finished your activity. > qrss.nm.ru -> grabber. > Looking to 501.2-501.36 and 502.0 > Whats a real freq, Peter? > -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD051-b6b4af8be7dc4; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:14:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD035-b6b4af8be7dc4; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:14:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7fIl-0005Vc-Dy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:13:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7fIl-0005VT-0j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:13:43 +0000 Received: from smtp832.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.189.246]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7fHu-00031S-LI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:12:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 62150 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2009 01:13:35 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=pTk5JRW6R16t1LYwNmp8f+PBZbck45NSaVyNkT+giu9+Y+8X9kAGeQA8keFUJ2c1ZB99d6KSmy0QdkgEMpieUktGUIoV9shzHoZvxeMiyC57ANw/jv5pSFIMPPuSu4xPxRHvK2i2TvYeRezkwVhyXWv97vgXrupe+J1QwJco6Vk= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@81.131.17.92 with login) by smtp832.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Nov 2009 01:13:35 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: KHdpK2OswBBXlm4uxknbEiS4uYdJoGknHN90u4K8__lTafnafZg- X-YMail-OSG: 81PIMC8VM1kQxaewYPlfNalCIYbIMMYfhM7pwVwPkXLkBugv2uIsoih7bbsxSq5QKQnkXjcGtfKa5HNLJE4s_lJpg4lHQDqx0mC99xj8JWHHywxYui9t2vKN3FAJCzV3sp3Ch0c1AN9dLhSSIhhSmnE7i9iVhc1SvwoB_8iXJ.BevUnTaHZSqbPCz3DgtkyS4K8KOArhAUlMOO.bNuSaKT3bk_G3P93usS0d9YV8iFg7XURlaUKfn8FCvZoLZgyr82n.bONHOtPYJ7Si7smPvGM0uSsMEU45MAiwxdMNH7UMYOjJUBE5irSILSmNQYml3nAp9PeFXvTnIMoTu3TOVDgImQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <007c01ca61a3$08cac370$0900a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <001b01ca6086$cd0966b0$0617aac0@jimdesk> <004101ca60ab$ef362e60$0900a8c0@lark> <4AF7224D.4010707@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <009601ca60c5$84c5f4b0$0900a8c0@lark> <700100929.1257814708.48698216.38628@mcgi66.rambler.ru> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:12:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Losses due to ant in tree? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Roman, good idea! the only trouble is that by the time they start to grow in John's island their trunks make an angle of about 25 degrees to the ground pointing East :-)) He would need to build a stone windbreak around it. Wow that is a good idea too, he could use that as a tower until the tree grows tall enough :-)) Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roman RW3ADB" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:58 AM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Losses due to ant in tree? > * Alan Melia [Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:25:13 > -0000]: > > Yeah well in your case,John, the nearest tree is on the Mainland > > May be sending to John an russian oak? It will be great mast after 600 > years... > > > Best Wishes > > Alan G3NYK > > > > hi! 73! > Roman, RW3ADB > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John P-G" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 7:55 PM > > Subject: Re: LF: Re: Losses due to ant in tree? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alan Melia wrote: > > > > May thumbnail approack says put a vertical at least > > > > as far away from trees, <...> as it is high. Not aways easy! > > > > > > > > > > > > > Depends where you live :-) > > > > > > http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/DCP_2235.JPG > > > > > > John > > > GM4SLV > > > Treeless Shetland > > > > > > > > > > -- > Roman RW3ADB. > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db01.mx.aol.com (rly-db01.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.76]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB104-aa74b01b91c374; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:42:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB015-aa74b01b91c374; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:42:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA8Nn-000082-Oi for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:41:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA8Nn-00007t-90 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:41:07 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA8Nm-00029j-EQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:41:07 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82EA051C006 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:40:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 843A9F3862 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:40:56 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id 6AF0618056; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:40:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from 213.137-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (213.137-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.247.137.213]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:40:56 +0100 Message-ID: <20091116214056.d7nc9v7srowggc88@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:40:56 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.247.137.213 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR Entry Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Andy, note that the 2 hits have the same timestamp but different frequency. You can more of these double "fake" hits: 2009-01-30 20:00 Y23LWM 0.137592 -26 0 AC23 10 DF6NM =20 JN59nk 18083 194 2009-01-30 20:00 Y23LWM 0.137568 +8 0 AC23 10 DF6NM =20 JN59nk 18083 194 2009-10-22 05:18 CE8QNK 0.503890 -21 -3 OB23 0.005 =20 SQ2BXI JO94gj 15730 291 2009-10-22 05:18 CE8QNK 0.503969 -25 -3 OB23 0.005 =20 SQ2BXI JO94gj 15730 291 2009-11-08 04:50 G17LSZ 0.503817 -27 -2 GA37 0.01 SQ2BXI =20 JO94gj 15730 62 2009-11-08 04:50 G17LSZ 0.503829 -26 -2 GA37 0.01 SQ2BXI =20 JO94gj 15730 62 2009-11-12 21:12 E51OOP 0.503999 -33 3 GB06 0.1 G4WGT =20 IO83qo 14761 42 2009-11-12 21:12 E51OOP 0.503810 -25 3 GB06 0.1 G4WGT =20 IO83qo 14761 42 2009-05-17 21:28 EN6WV 0.503858 -17 -4 MD07 200 GM4ISM =20 IO85ar 13421 324 2009-05-17 21:28 EN6WV 0.503850 -24 -4 MD07 200 GM4ISM =20 IO85ar 13421 324 2009-09-08 19:42 NE9GWP 0.503876 -24 1 OG12 0.5 G0HNW =20 IO93cn 13386 318 2009-09-08 19:42 NE9GWP 0.503851 -23 1 OG12 0.5 G0HNW =20 IO93cn 13386 318 2009-09-19 10:16 1Y3X 0.503556 -33 1 AD87 2 K1JT FN20 =20 13336 61 2009-09-19 10:16 1Y3X 0.503468 -32 1 AD87 2 K1JT FN20 =20 13336 61 and so on ... 73, Rik Quoting Andy Talbot : > Found in the database. Two consecutive hits with the same details > suggests an incorrectly set station.. > > Uraguay, in Central Africa !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > 2009-11-16 19:06=A0=A0CW5PPT=A0=A00.503997=A0=A0-30=A0=A03=A0=A0KJ31=A0= =A0+53=A0=A0199.526=A0=A0G4WGT > IO83qo=A0=A06399=A0=A03976 > 2009-11-16 19:06=A0=A0CW5PPT=A0=A00.503849=A0=A0-15=A0=A03=A0=A0KJ31=A0= =A0+53=A0=A0199.526=A0=A0G4WGT > IO83qo=A0=A06399=A0=A03976 > > > Andy > www.g4jnt.com > > this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny state > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db04.mx.aol.com (rly-db04.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.79]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB092-ac14afb16d756; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:56:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB047-ac14afb16d756; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:56:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8JHF-000427-3b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:54:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8JHE-00041y-G3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:54:48 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8JGX-0008FY-BK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:54:06 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A4451C006; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:54:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F2EA31E702; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:54:34 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id B3BC818056; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:54:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from 123.102-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (123.102-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [87.64.102.123]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:54:33 +0100 Message-ID: <20091111205433.kpticpwlwooc8s0s@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:54:33 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "jwfisher@alumni.princeton.edu" Cc: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <20091111075814.94NGA.7351.root@tormtz04> In-Reply-To: <20091111075814.94NGA.7351.root@tormtz04> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 87.64.102.123 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: 500 kHz WSPR de VE1JF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Jim, I just returned home (19:45 UTC) and started WSPRing. WX is still dry. If the WX forecast is ok I leave the TX on after =20 going to bed (+/- 23UTC) otherwise I will shut down. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting "jwfisher@alumni.princeton.edu NOT" : > OK, Rik--unless I hear from you today that the wx did NOT stay dry =20 > and you are not going to be QRV, I will set up around 1830 to =20 > monitor and spot on 600M for at least a couple of hours. Is that OK? =20 > Otherwise, I have switched from 160 WSPR overnight to 15 WSPR and =20 > plan to run that all day unless my antenna projects require the rig. > > MNI TNX for the rig info. I have a transverter output available so =20 > believe I could skip the attenuator, but otherwise I am thinking =20 > along similar lines. > > Might it be feasible for you to send me a circuit diagram by an =20 > attachment I could forward to my colleagues? > > 73, > > Jim > you might be interested in the QTH as shown on QRZ.COM, VE1JF.COM =20 > and (unless it is replaced with another picture) http://rac.ca/tca. > ---- Rik Strobbe wrote: >> Jim, >> >> the transverter is in the prototype / breadboard stage. >> It is original in the way that it is my own design, but it is just a >> classic transverter: >> - Kenwood TS440 on 4.5MHz (in fact 4.5024MHz USB for WSPR) at minimum >> power (abt. 1 Watt) >> - 30dB attenuator (1W to 1mW) >> - DBM (SBL-1) fed with a 4MHz xtal osc as downmixer to 500kHz (502.4kHz= ) >> - single transistor (BC550c) post amp, about 10mW out at 50 Ohm >> - 5 pole LPF >> - PA 10mW to 50W >> - 7 pole LPF >> - antenna >> >> I will be transmitting WSPR tonight (11-11) if WX stays dry. >> >> 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >> >> Quoting "jwfisher@alumni.princeton.edu NOT" : >> >> > transverter design original? could I see details? >> > >> > 11 November would be a possibility for me to monitor for you. >> > >> > 73, >> > >> > Jim >> > ---- Rik Strobbe wrote: >> >> Hello Jim, >> >> >> >> > Not tonight, Rik--I am committed to compared 160 WSPR with VE2DC= in >> >> > Quebec (who will also be >> >> > Participating in the 500 kHz experiments and has already copied an >> >> > M0 there); anyhow, I >> >> > Have to leave before 2200 for a meeting this evening. Tx is on 160 >> >> > WSPR and I'll turn spotting back >> >> > on as I leave the house. (Still dial-up around here, so it's eithe= r >> >> > internet or telephone!) >> >> > >> >> > Would be happy to do it some other evening, though! >> >> No problem, we will try another night. >> >> >> >> >> >> > How do you generate a WSPR signal on 500 kHz? >> >> Kenwood TS440 on 4.5MHz into a homebrew transverter 4.5MHz --> >> >> 500kHz + 50W PA >> >> >> >> 73, Rik ON7YD >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb12.mx.aol.com (rly-mb12.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.170]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMB021-d424b11e2c31c4; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:56:06 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB126-d424b11e2c31c4; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:56:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEZwJ-0006Tp-1N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:55:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEZwI-0006Tg-LL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:55:06 +0000 Received: from lnx503.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de ([130.83.156.232]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEZwI-0002hy-1I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:55:06 +0000 Received: from FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.212.129]) by lnx503.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.14.2/8.14.2/HRZ/PMX) with SMTP id nAT2t5fm019266 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:55:05 +0100 (envelope-from schaefer@hst.tu-darmstadt.de) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de) by FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de with AVK MailGateway; for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:55:05 +0100 Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:55:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AA6B@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> In-Reply-To: <4B11C56B.10606@mail.ru> X-MS-Has-Attach: Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: LF: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz Thread-Index: AcpwjrGu3SdHS93hQhyyayWfoIl3zAAEC3og From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= To: X-AVK-Virus-Check: AVB 19.594;28.11.2009 X-PMX-TU: seen v0.99a by 5.5.8.383112, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2009.11.29.24527 X-PMX-SPAMCHECK: outgoing mail X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: AW: LF: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hey Dmitry,=20 Also tny for the QSO and the picture! Sri for my rx problems. The BF981 in my Converter seems do be damaged and= so I had to use the IC706 instead of the K2 ;-) Your locator is KO73DG? That would be 1804km and so a new record for me!= Mni tnx!=20 cuagn, 73, Stefan From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD103-9104aee29ce353; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:37:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD068-9104aee29ce353; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:37:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N4kuW-0003Wu-MC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 00:36:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N4kuW-0003Wl-8Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 00:36:40 +0000 Received: from mailout04.t-online.de ([194.25.134.18]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N4ksz-00041W-9J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 00:35:05 +0000 Received: from fwd05.aul.t-online.de by mailout04.t-online.de with smtp id 1N4kuS-0002L6-00; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 01:36:36 +0100 Received: from [192.168.2.22] (rXAqc-ZG8hpRbRP6TaeLXYSmwzfTOaP-K8I1vU+hbeY2v5jAXrESJsx3WZ3alfpZwe@[93.211.74.246]) by fwd05.t-online.de with esmtp id 1N4kuS-0Udqts0; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 01:36:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de To: "LF Group RSGB" X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.08.0003 Date: 02 Nov 2009 00:25 GMT Message-ID: <1N4kuS-0Udqts0@fwd05.t-online.de> X-ID: rXAqc-ZG8hpRbRP6TaeLXYSmwzfTOaP-K8I1vU+hbeY2v5jAXrESJsx3WZ3alfpZwe X-TOI-MSGID: 1a9ca8af-29d0-46b8-aeb4-f6e7f0ab8681 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: SM6BGP and EI0CF again in eastern Bavaria Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear all, Around 23.00 UTC on November 1st 2009 SM6BGP could be heard again in JN68GN beaconing 559 with QSB on 501,4 kHz. At about the same time EI0CF (readable up to 569 on 501,1 kHz) had a CW-QSO with VX9MRC but deep qsb had been a problem on both sides. Keeping overs short has been a temporary solution until the qsb became too severe. 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc09.mx.aol.com (rly-mc09.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.93]) by air-mc01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC012-d934b07a01e23f; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:09:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC093-d934b07a01e23f; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:09:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBl0S-00039U-Qk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:07:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBl0S-00039L-EX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:07:44 +0000 Received: from smtp06.online.nl ([194.134.42.51]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBl0R-0005vp-NC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:07:44 +0000 Received: from smtp06.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp06.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C4CB96059 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:07:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (s5593e077.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.147.224.119]) by smtp06.online.nl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:07:37 +0100 (CET) From: To: Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:07:37 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <003001ca69dd$54c906f0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp06.online.nl) X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.7 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: RE: WE2XGR/2 QRSS20 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01CA6A8A.120EA060" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,NO_REAL_NAME, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01CA6A8A.120EA060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Good signal Jay, captured at 0:00 utc 73 Victor PA3FNY -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens jrusgrove@comcast.net Verzonden: vrijdag 20 november 2009 13:31 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS20 Thanks to Rik, Nicolas, Laurence (China!), Garry and Marco for successful reception reports...and others that looked for the signal. Tonight WE2XGR/2 will transmit "X" in QRSS20 (with cw ID at the beginning of the X) from ~ 2130 to ~ 2330Z. A slight frequency change was requested. Tonight's operation will be on 506.506 kHz. As always, reports are greatly appreciated. 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1N8Fve-0003JE-Qw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:20:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8Fve-0003J5-GP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:20:18 +0000 Received: from smarthost3.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8Fuw-0006xs-Qd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:19:35 +0000 Received: from bb-87-82-24-206.ukonline.co.uk ([87.82.24.206] helo=[192.168.0.3]) by smarthost3.mail.uk.easynet.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N8Fvc-000PqM-FE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:20:16 +0000 Message-ID: <4AFAE467.2000309@ukonline.co.uk> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:20:55 +0000 From: Peter Dodd User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001101ca621e$dcdc3380$96949a80$@princeton.edu> <20091110192309.4v8agotbs0k0gocs@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <004a01ca6249$d91531e0$8b3f95a0$@princeton.edu> <20091110222951.cr4qtrqagcwcowok@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <4AFAAE9C.1070304@ukonline.co.uk> <011e01ca62e0$fa406140$0201a8c0@Clemens04> In-Reply-To: <011e01ca62e0$fa406140$0201a8c0@Clemens04> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Ferrite characteristics Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Clemens, That little program is really brilliant and is just what I wanted. Thank very much and to the others who have replied regarding this subject. Regards Peter, G3LDO > the best aid I know is the mini Ring Core Calculator V1.2 > which is freeware > http://www.dl5swb.de/html/mini_ring_core_calculator.htm > > It is a fantastic tool for known and unknown toroid materials. > For determining the µrel of an unknown toroid you wind a few turns > on it,measure the inductance,enter the inductance and the physical > dimensions of the core into the program and it gives you all you want > to know including µrel. > And the results are really correct. > Very handy with Amidon toroids,too. > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb06.mx.aol.com (rly-mb06.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.164]) by air-mb08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB083-d0d4b0930283a2; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:36:10 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB061-d0d4b0930283a2; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:35:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCBel-0002qp-SA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:35:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCBel-0002qg-HM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:35:07 +0000 Received: from nina.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.76]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCBek-0003tT-M7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:35:07 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by nina.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id nAMCYxF7004781 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:04:59 -0330 Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:04:59 -0330 (NST) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 2.0 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: RE: LF: VX9MRC Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, NO_REAL_NAME,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi VIctor. Yes indeed there are dog bones... and a lot of variability in the signals. There seems to be a lot of QSB on 500 kHz even on the shorter paths. 73 and thank-you Joe VO1NA On Sun, 22 Nov 2009, victor13@online.nl wrote: > Hello Joe, > > dogbones around 2:00z > > 73 > Victor > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens jcraig@mun.ca > Verzonden: zaterdag 21 november 2009 22:26 > Aan: blacksheep > Onderwerp: Re: LF: VX9MRC > > > Hello Victor, > Thank-you for the report of early reception. > > 73 > Joe > > On Sat, 21 Nov 2009, victor13@online.nl wrote: > >> First traces VX9MRC at 507.77KHz 19:50 utc >> >> 73 >> >> Victor >> PA3FNY >> JO22NC > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db01.mx.aol.com (rly-db01.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.76]) by air-db01.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDB014-aa94b12e2c42fb; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:08:44 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB017-aa94b12e2c42fb; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:08:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEqzG-000431-MX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:07:18 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEqzG-00042s-3u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:07:18 +0000 Received: from ey-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.78.147]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEqzE-0005Og-DJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:07:18 +0000 Received: by ey-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 3so755022eyh.16 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:07:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gJEqal5TC+BA0y9KMlOYWiyYLqHrkSZZY7UjAP68SKo=; b=eWywuKMjHpqKxHUv4AikYC4hc/GxumP/ljcYg2CPbFqf0TlS4xGrD56HaDSkw//7oy nFMo18d4mPPmXMFMgHBP0TkcP0Rnrjy1sYEa4dUzEHrytjPv5+uGsD+zBqpagUKDL1UI JwRDFlcG3r9pJiAv51gnS3flWADHeO1BPwI60= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Slfc7cPk8KiiGYPx8nlv/H4+Ei6TjN10d8KrHHbgm84AGLfdSFU6i0N0YYEZ6llmWx CkiyJ41Ov/XuHwKpiJ8Fx/jF8JEuFONAczL3h2wUXWASG9JOtQTHkmGjbmAc2X30FGOA tNugRtQV/PKaR7OLTd1azbqMiaz13byGRCKZM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.24.20 with SMTP id t20mr4112335ebb.3.1259528835666; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:07:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <007801ca6c6a$09baf120$3ab27cbc@niurhaxf0xcqlj> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:07:15 +0100 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Anton_B=E4rtschi?= To: Marcin , rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: qso Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cdf6d04d591fa047988e86e X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d272.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0cdf6d04d591fa047988e86e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Marcin I've seen your signal in QRS10. It was quite strong. I called you, but probably my signal was too weak. May be we can make a QSO next weekend. 73 de Toni, HB9ASB 2009/11/24 Anton B=E4rtschi > Hello Marcin > Yes, would be nice to make a first contact SP-HB9. As far as i know, it > never took place. How abot this weekend, saturday or sunday? Have you ev= er > seen my signal? Should we try it in QRS3 or QRS10? > 73 de Toni, HB9ASB > > 2009/11/23 Marcin > >> Hello Toni >> Plise QSO on 136kHz. >> We have 1W EIRP and antenna 30m hight and 120m long. >> -- >> Vy 73! >> Marcin SQ2BXI >> (SP2KDS Team) >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Internetowi nie placa! Otworz Konto Direct. >> Kliknij >> http://link.interia.pl/f2448 >> >> > --000e0cdf6d04d591fa047988e86e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Marcin
I've seen your signal in QRS10. It was quite strong.= I called you, but probably my signal was too weak. May be we can make a= QSO next weekend.
73 de Toni, HB9ASB

2009/11/24 Anton B=E4rtschi <hb9asb@gmail.com>
Hello MarcinYes, would be nice to make a first contact SP-HB9. As far as i know, it= never took place. How abot this weekend, saturday or sunday? Have you eve= r seen my signal? Should we try it in QRS3 or QRS10?
73 de Toni, HB9ASB

2009/11/23 Marcin <bxi@interia.pl>
Hello Toni
Plise QSO on 136kHz.
We have 1W EIRP and antenna 30m hight and 120m long.
--
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI
(SP2KDS Team)

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--000e0cdf6d04d591fa047988e86e-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (rly-dc10.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.39]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC071-b474b05ac3d15; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:36:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC103-b474b05ac3d15; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:36:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBDii-0002qq-0Q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:35:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBDih-0002qh-B6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:35:11 +0000 Received: from smtp824.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.9]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBDig-00028Q-5Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:35:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 53423 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2009 20:35:04 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=m63gVMltomMhANsny4qQalQCp6BLNPMzQ1DyucqBTEMpsxcPWifSsL/Tyq7HbqMk+gUmJM8z4IgFlD9An+jIfgfPa2RvSTPpzmT4+RJL1CmlqDo5by+8cOC7twtxxRNn5q42aht7WaST/8+yyRdrC523gKrenr5AtkFJKq6tkQY= ; Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.180.119.35 with login) by smtp824.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Nov 2009 20:35:03 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: qKIhhNCswBB2TTHr2BORWcGGR2mpopxhCcunGIxpCKQYiG07Q7UOhNo- X-YMail-OSG: tLOrDJMVM1lfjIS1ZnZn0fdB_fyEtWaC6B.UcdWCe4yMMOymqgOaE3uQkOXf8t4n4FkrntlUlt0tNPqLsWDEJt63T3IGgJM82bLzLxTlisXmAVybLiBfZ9NqOtpIvxyOiW5PUY2L39t8fiilVcj0jfwLQ4DJW8pFZwQjYmnSR4bw3zMGhcAnyGAqE.FHvgY9qNtArhMimwSrvCEGp9AH4oI4fQi5PaZgP6OFIS7aMKlW8.06srFWj.OITIzmQHCt_RAiywIKMzalWtQ.nqGwBBdUnNtLmw63r.Fhcw-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "James Moritz" To: References: <017801ca66fb$0bf91c60$0517aac0@jimdesk> <20091118085815.7282031E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <02ac01ca6832$39e82890$0517aac0@jimdesk> <515CB1E53A2D4E02BBAB7B9E5E9CC0E8@JimPC> In-Reply-To: <515CB1E53A2D4E02BBAB7B9E5E9CC0E8@JimPC> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:35:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0053_01CA6957.C57A0560" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 ------=_NextPart_000_0053_01CA6957.C57A0560 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Jim, LF Group, FYI - Here is a spectrogram of G7NKS in WSPR recorded this evening, showing the sidebands at +/-50Hz and +/-150Hz - I couldn't see any other spectral components. 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Best regards, Andrej EW6GB in KO45CN From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db02.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDB022-ab84b11053b2b8; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 06:11:09 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB036-ab84b11053b2b8; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 06:10:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NELBm-0003cr-Q2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:10:06 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NELBm-0003ci-8y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:10:06 +0000 Received: from psmtp09.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.23]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NELBk-0006Z3-H4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:10:06 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp09.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KTT00C52GCK9C@psmtp09.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 12:09:56 +0100 (MET) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 12:09:18 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <19AE76B598A848FB81136D52F8EC7754@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: KDS 28-11.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_hJ4Onx/xvv2r8tbkJX9Dow)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --Boundary_(ID_hJ4Onx/xvv2r8tbkJX9Dow) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_AwCQkhy9/LMieSC/rmQlKQ)" --Boundary_(ID_AwCQkhy9/LMieSC/rmQlKQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hello LF, capture KDS henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: KDS 28-11.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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Hello LF,
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Good signals from both stations last night. 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Good signals from both stations last night.

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.
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Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,HTML_TITLE_EMPTY,MIME_HTML_ONLY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) M0FMT wrote:
Alan is right about Winrad if you set the software LO to zero and select LH or RH rather than the
full IQ and depending on you sound card sample rate you will either get 0 to 24kc/s or 0 to 48kc/s band coverage.

Yes, both Alan, and Pete are correct. And you will have also audio output, no need for VAC for it.
If you want to see (and hear) an example of reception of SAQ with just the mini-whip connected to
the line input of the Delta 44, using WInrad, go here :

http://www.sdradio.eu/SAQ_2008_06_29.html      or here (but using now Perseus) :
http://www.sdradio.eu/SAQ_2008_12_24.htm

73  Alberto  I2PHD

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (rly-ma05.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.49]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA012-8a74b09827b275; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:27:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA051-8a74b09827b275; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:27:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCH8J-0004ho-Ec for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:25:59 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCH8J-0004hf-0x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:25:59 +0000 Received: from ey-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.78.146]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCH8H-0005LR-O2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:25:59 +0000 Received: by ey-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 3so1489486eyh.16 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:25:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zQiLClFmiUtmLPcrQ+3wljfg0bEKreZXfuTXvtxN1oA=; b=SxELzpCLzHnwByEyT9EIht/Y+vtHZf9WwAXp8UTbub77MmZbWJYL8qPnw9BFuEpo60 Zc2XuWxDBfDdp+Zcax2B/qh/334daPM2Y/+M7F2WsxhgKbrHCE9F5BFv/65LEVRI1S2p SKw3osNARDCzFCmzQVmd4WXjuTn0cPiyhyfGA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Ydh6P/CC2AZ7mr9N8yleIK0pLTIh0EMNhUz8HkaGVm56Wx+o7lx8IUUK7CuJtVvm90 Dcgbhvsembdhz2SYWuKQ1GYjxNzGWgQ6zrre8hvLfb8UjeMaVzlCDtbDtSWwPRW9Vi0A VXIdbFOb/RdexV+UqV2VB2/s2p45VkDuiJwqc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.90.12 with SMTP id d12mr1213037wef.64.1258914356817; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:25:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <002301ca6b5d$7f214da0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> References: <002301ca6b5d$7f214da0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:25:56 +0000 Message-ID: <8bf118410911221025o2c42e9c3x35576a9d1a9056f5@mail.gmail.com> From: Dave Pick To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: G3YXM qrss10 (qso with SP2KDS) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d6487d0a6e470478f9d76d X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d255.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0016e6d6487d0a6e470478f9d76d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That looks very good! Maybe we could work one day? Dave. 2009/11/22 Andrey rn3agc > Hello Dave, LF, > Capture last night at 23.32z > > 73 Andrey -- G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK --0016e6d6487d0a6e470478f9d76d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That looks very good!
Maybe we could work one day?

Dave.

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2009/11/22 Andrey rn3agc <= rn3agc@mail.ru>
Hello Dave, LF,
Capture last night at 23.32z

73 Andrey

Hi Roger!<= /o:p>

 

Well done! You= are booming into Biggleswade!  You used to be in the -20db and below zone now its= -11 and better.  Uber QRO and you make me look very QRPp!!

 

My problem is= down to lack of vertical height (5.5M) and lousy earth (50 ohm at a guesstimate).   I= ’m going to ask Santa for 2 sets of swaged poles to give me 40’ height and= then run a lot more earths and radials out.  With that I calculate I can go= from about 0.1% eff up to 2% and get abt 500mW erp.

 

With best regar= ds

 

 

Jim=

 

 

Dr. James Cowbu= rn G7NKS

 

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org [mailto:owner-= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Roger Lapthorn
Sent: 06 November 2009= 16:46
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: G3XBM: 500= kHz ERP increased by 6dB - WSPR reports please

 

Today I modified my 500kHz antenna. The 28MHz= halo up at the top of the 5-6m vertical section (which was the coax feed to the 28MHz halo) was= removed and replaced by a spiral inductance/ top capacity hat consisting of ar= ound around 8 "spiralling in" turns in the space occupied by the= original halo.  Seeing my initial reports from M0BMU I am some 5-6dB st= ronger than I was before, I guess because more of the antenna current is in= the vertical section. The measured antenna current is not much different= though.

Please listen for me on 500kHz= WSPR and let me know if I am now stronger than before.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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--0016e6d6487d0a6e470478f9d76d-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb07.mx.aol.com (rly-mb07.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.165]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMB023-d174b0e8bfc1ac; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:09:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB073-d174b0e8bfc1ac; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:09:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDf0k-000592-Ic for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:07:54 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDf0k-00058s-4V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:07:54 +0000 Received: from out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.243]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDf0i-00067K-ED for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:07:54 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAMoaDktOlTCW/2dsb2JhbADUS4QxBIFy X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,294,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="257141694" Received: from unknown (HELO your91hoehfy9g) ([78.149.48.150]) by out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 26 Nov 2009 14:07:42 +0000 Message-ID: <000901ca6ea1$d28c4ac0$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <1259236455.6299.20.camel@vaio3rd> Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:07:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.236 Subject: LF: Re: New comer in QRSS120 at 137.7KHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Rik I will look for u. Pse let me know what time u are onair transmitting de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Wakatori" <7l1rll@dp.u-netsurf.ne.jp> To: Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 11:54 AM Subject: LF: New comer in QRSS120 at 137.7KHz > Hi All, > I have CQing by QRSS120 at 137.7KHz from a few day ago. > Please look at the frequency. > -- > -.. . --... .-.. .---- .-. .-.. .-.. .-.-. > 7L1RLL under ubuntu/Linux in Kawasaki,Japan(JP) > URL=http://www1.u-netsurf.ne.jp/~7l1rll/radio.html > -..--- -.- .-.. ..-.. --. --. ...- .-... ...-. > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB102-ae34b05420b246; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:03:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB091-ae34b05420b246; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:03:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NB6dB-00089i-B6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:01:01 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NB6dA-00089P-Ht for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:01:00 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NB6d6-0001DJ-8L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:00:58 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id E11E451C1AB for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:59:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from PC_van_Rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-106.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.106]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBA76F3863 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:59:34 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:59:38 +0100 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <00b301ca6915$df7b7440$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> References: <000501ca67ba$e4817db0$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <002e01ca682b$c42ac460$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <00b301ca6915$df7b7440$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091119125934.BBA76F3863@smtps02.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 QRSS10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jay, what ERP were you running ? 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T At 13:43 19/11/2009, you wrote: >T/A enthusiasts > >Thanks to Rik, Andrey, Pat, Ralph (and others for trying) from the >Tuesday night QRSS3 session. Very >surprised to see the signal received in Russia! > >Tonight WE2XGR/2 will transmit in QRSS10 mode from ~ 2130 to ~ 2300Z >and QRSS3 from ~2300 to ~ 0030Z >on 506.5 kHz. > >The QRSS10 transmission (letters XGR) will take about 4-1/2 minutes >which may be longer than the >T/A QSB cycle to western EU. It will be interesting to see if QRSS10 >might be too slow for T/A work. >As usual, any and all reports are appreciated. > >Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Andrey rn3agc" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 3:33 AM >Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 > > > > Hello Jay, Rik, LF, > > Captures at 00.32 and 01.42. > > Rik, here frequency 506501. > > > > 73 > > Andrey / KO85sv > > > > > >> T/A enthusiasts > >> > >> WE2XGR/2 will beacon in QRSS3 mode tonight on 506.5 kHz from ~ 2130 to ~ > >> 0030 Z. Reports appreciated. > >> > >> Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG083-a294afd6da129c; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:31:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG083-a294afd6da129c; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:30:59 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8x9w-0002e7-FD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:29:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8x9w-0002dy-4L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:29:56 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8x9v-0006t3-4i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:29:56 +0000 Received: from edmwaa01.telusplanet.net ([75.157.140.241]) by priv-edmwes24.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091113142952.ZZLZ16249.priv-edmwes24.telusplanet.net@edmwaa01.telusplanet.net> for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:29:52 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.67] (d75-157-140-241.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.140.241]) by edmwaa01.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 06613345A7B80E30 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:29:51 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4AFD6D5F.3020302@telus.net> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:29:51 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <2EB9AB3966984B91BB0C369B32CF12FC@AGB> <4AFCC936.9060800@telus.net> <4AFD125A.3060402@sighthound.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4AFD125A.3060402@sighthound.demon.co.uk> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi John VX is in developmental service (same idea as US stations), EI in amateur service... Like positive and negative antimatter they don't mix. 73 Scott John P-G wrote: > Scott Tilley wrote: >> Hi Graham >> >> All Canadian 600m stations are operating under COMMERCIAL >> Developmental Licenses and are not able to communicate with the >> Amateur Service. > > So VX9MRC shouldn't be having regular CW QSOs with EI0CF? > > Still confused.... > > John > GM4SLV > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb03.mx.aol.com (rly-mb03.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.161]) by air-mb08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB082-cf94af7db95313; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:06:44 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB035-cf94af7db95313; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:06:31 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7QBj-0003B9-Q8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:05:27 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7QBj-0003B0-Dn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:05:27 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7QAp-0006AF-Is for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:04:32 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8FA57B8085 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:04:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from PC_van_Rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-106.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.106]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C38331E703 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:04:54 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:05:07 +0100 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <007a01ca60eb$9cb96fe0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> References: <007a01ca60eb$9cb96fe0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091109090454.6C38331E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500 kHz TA report Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Jay, congrats on the QSO with Finbar. His QTH is almost perfect for 500kHz (close to the ocean, almost no obstacles) in contradiction to my QTH (inland, lot's of trees). But I am interested in a CW QSO with you, could you drop a message (to the reflector) when you are QRV ? I have rather limited time for the hobby, most evenings I cannot spend all time listening. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T At 04:20 9/11/2009, you wrote: >500 kHz TA enthusiasts > >Suprisingly good TA conditions of late. Had nice QSO (cw) with >Finbar, EI0CF, last night and again >tonight with good signals reports both directions. These QSOs are >about a month earlier than those >of the past two years. Not sure if it's conditions or that we just >didn't attempt it early enough >last year. > >Jack, VX9ZZZ in Nova Scotia has also been in QSO with Finbar and >reports hearing other EU stations >besides Finbar even well before his sunset. I've heard Jack calling >CQ evenings starting around NS >sunset on 504 kHz and he tunes the band looking for answers. > >Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 >506.5 kHz From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (rly-ma03.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.47]) by air-ma06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA064-8984b068de3329; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:39:23 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA032-8984b068de3329; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:39:01 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBSkX-0005vw-1a for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:38:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBSkW-0005vn-Lx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:38:04 +0000 Received: from psmtp30.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBSkV-0007Nk-PH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:38:04 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp30.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KTE00MUXR2X2P@psmtp30.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:37:45 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:37:42 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <110D052F97D84DB1BC25C90EE783FFB8@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: vx9mrc 20-11.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_sraOIgYzmre5cHVQ0RkrXA)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --Boundary_(ID_sraOIgYzmre5cHVQ0RkrXA) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_inZ092yZsFjJ8R60I5T0NQ)" --Boundary_(ID_inZ092yZsFjJ8R60I5T0NQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi Joe,LF Nice capture MRC Henny pa3cpm best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: vx9mrc 20-11.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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Hi Joe,LF
Nice capture MRC
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
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Berthebaud" To: References: <001801ca7139$d8e15100$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> <4B12EDC3.8030005@online.fr> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:38:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091129-1, 29/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: f8boj info's Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Goodnight jpierre and LF thank you for control ... it's not move too far to the side N america. and the grabber is closed east direction good night to pleasure Claude F8boj JN16WA ----- Original Message -----=20 From: ""Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)"" To: Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 10:55 PM Subject: Re: LF: f8boj info's Hi Claude , Monstrous signal ! I hope that our friends of the other side of pond , will copy you ! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj Claude Berthebaud a =E9crit : > Good evening LF > beaconing QRSS60 137776.20hz Claude F8boj JN16WA > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc07.mx.aol.com (rly-mc07.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.91]) by air-mc06.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMC064-d884b0e6cc010a; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:56:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC078-d884b0e6cc010a; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:55:48 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDcvT-0003tO-Ns for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:54:19 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDcvT-0003tF-D0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:54:19 +0000 Received: from msa-k1.u-netsurf.ne.jp ([202.233.11.14]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from <7l1rll@dp.u-netsurf.ne.jp>) id 1NDcvS-0000ZX-8U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:54:19 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.5] (d82.HkanagawaFL41.vectant.ne.jp [222.230.132.82]) by msa-k1.u-netsurf.ne.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 308042AA78 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 20:54:15 +0900 (JST) From: Rick Wakatori <7l1rll@dp.u-netsurf.ne.jp> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Organization: RLL Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 20:54:15 +0900 Message-Id: <1259236455.6299.20.camel@vaio3rd> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: New comer in QRSS120 at 137.7KHz Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi All, I have CQing by QRSS120 at 137.7KHz from a few day ago. Please look at the frequency. -- -.. . --... .-.. .---- .-. .-.. .-.. .-.-. 7L1RLL under ubuntu/Linux in Kawasaki,Japan(JP) URL=http://www1.u-netsurf.ne.jp/~7l1rll/radio.html -..--- -.- .-.. ..-.. --. --. ...- .-... ...-. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (rly-dc01.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.30]) by air-dc09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC093-afe4afb47b23c0; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:24:44 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC012-afe4afb47b23c0; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:24:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8MXR-0004hh-94 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:23:45 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8MXQ-0004hY-Sx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:23:44 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8MXO-0007eE-26 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:23:44 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.6] (opc1.twatt.home [192.168.1.6]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 947B23B4D8 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:23:40 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4AFB477C.5090604@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:23:40 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Jim. LF It looks like G7NKS has a 50/100Hz problem on the audio - both in TX and RX directions - there are up to 3 decodes by Jim of a single station (eg G3YXM), spaced by 50 & 100Hz and I see also that M0BMU is also reporting multiple decodes of G7NKS with the same 50/100Hz spacing. Jim, have you some mains hum affecting the audio in/out of the PC? Cheers, John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md02.mx.aol.com (rly-md02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.140]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMD084-8ee4b141997f2; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:14:44 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD026-8ee4b141997f2; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:14:33 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NFBgH-00085A-Pk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:13:05 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NFBgH-00084t-3j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:13:05 +0000 Received: from smtp23.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.20]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NFBgF-0004mP-5b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:13:05 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2307.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A0F917000091 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:12:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from F8BOJSQUSV2QH5 (231.154.87-79.rev.gaoland.net [79.87.154.231]) by msfrf2307.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 4CE16700009B for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:12:55 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091130191255314.4CE16700009B@msfrf2307.sfr.fr Message-ID: <001901ca71f0$fb60b830$0201a8c0@F8BOJSQUSV2QH5> From: "claude berthebaud" To: References: <001201ca71e6$f8fe42b0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:11:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091130-1, 30/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: F8BOJ Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Jay and LF Thank you for the information I'm going up a little higher in frequency In any case thank you for this transatlantic reception .... may be a QSO soon I'll be happy Claude F8boj JN16wa ================ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep" Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 7:00 PM Subject: LF: F8BOJ > BOJ very close to Loran line making reception difficult in North America. > > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG103-a1d4b07bc9be7; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:10:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG067-a1d4b07bc9be7; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:10:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBmuS-0003kB-1c for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:09:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBmuR-0003k2-Lt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:09:39 +0000 Received: from smtp23.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBmuR-0006Yl-3V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:09:39 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2313.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5BBD57000096 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:09:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (12.229.197-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.197.229.12]) by msfrf2313.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id EBB547000090 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:09:30 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091121100930965.EBB547000090@msfrf2313.sfr.fr Message-ID: <000f01ca6a92$b47052b0$0201a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:09:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091120-1, 20/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: f8boj G3xdv qso Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01CA6A9B.15D0C8C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01CA6A9B.15D0C8C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Mick and LF good morning ...solid copy=20 ur O no probleme many thanks for the First qso=20 Claude F8boj JN16WA ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01CA6A9B.15D0C8C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Mick and LF
good morning ...solid copy
ur O no probleme
many thanks for the First qso =
Claude F8boj JN16WA
------=_NextPart_000_000C_01CA6A9B.15D0C8C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB061-ae44afd05f4317; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:08:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB092-ae44afd05f4317; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:08:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8qFT-00011Y-KQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:07:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8qFT-00011P-9r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:07:11 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([199.185.220.240]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8qFS-0003jc-B5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:07:11 +0000 Received: from edtnaa02.telusplanet.net ([75.157.140.241]) by priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091113070804.CPNE703.priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net@edtnaa02.telusplanet.net> for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:08:04 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.67] (d75-157-140-241.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.140.241]) by edtnaa02.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 41D2A3C0278D05B2 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:07:07 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4AFD059B.6020107@telus.net> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:07:07 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: New DCF39 logger... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi All I have started a DCF39 plotter similar to the wonderous W3EEE system. If anyone is still interested in 2200m propagation have a look. http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/ Operation may be sporadic for the next few days as I debug a UPS. 73 Scott VE7TIL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMG091-9f14b13829f3e3; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 03:30:26 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG013-9f14b13829f3e3; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 03:30:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NF1bD-0005Ow-2n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:27:11 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NF1b8-0005On-EE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:27:07 +0000 Received: from mx2.inta.es ([130.206.92.83]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NF1b2-0008Ab-Bf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:27:03 +0000 Received: from Alfa.inta.es ([172.17.51.5]) by eSafe SMTP Relay 1259306682; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:26:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) From: Manuel Carbonell Alanis To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:26:53 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Lotus Domino Web Server Release 7.0.1FP1 April 17, 2006 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by HTTP Server on alfa/Inta(Release 7.0.1FP1|April 17, 2006) at30/11/2009 09:26:53,Serialize complete at 30/11/2009 09:26:53,Itemize by HTTP Server on alfa/Inta(Release 7.0.1FP1|April 17, 2006) at 30/11/200909:26:53,Serialize by Router on alfa/Inta(Release 7.0.1FP1|April 17, 2006) at 30/11/200909:26:54,Serialize complete at 30/11/2009 09:26:54 X-ESAFE-STATUS:[mx2.inta.es] Mail clean X-ESAFE-DETAILS:[mx2.inta.es] X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_MIME_NO_HTML_TAG=0.512,MIME_HTML_ONLY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: LF Propagation literature? 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P.368-9: Surface wave (10 KHz-30 MHz).
P.372-9: Radio noise.
P.684-4: Radio propagation (f<15= 0 KHz).
P.832-2: Ground conductivity.
P.1147-4: = ;Sky-wave field (150<f<1700 KHz).
 

Another inf= ormation (44 Mb): www.rta.nato.int/Pubs/RDP.asp?RDP=3DAGARD-CP-52= 9

73 de

        =             &n= bsp;        -Manuel Carbonell-

<= BR>-----owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org escribi= =F3: -----

Para: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
De: "Clemens Pau= l" <cpaul@gmx.net>
Enviado por: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o= rg
Fecha: 29/11/2009 19:36
Asunto: LF: Re: LF Propagation literatu= re?

Stefan,

below a copy= of my posting on this list from 3.11.09 maybe it's helpful.
---------= --
it's the CCIR- RECOMMENDATION 368-7 .
There are no free sources= on the internet for these graphs
at least I was not able to find any.=
Maybe DK8KW can help you, he has a graph for 150kHz on his HP
http://www.qru.de/bur= g.html
where you can also find his email address.
------------= ---------------------------------------------------

73
Clemens=
DL4RAJ

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stefan Sch=E4f= er" <schaefer@hst.tu-darmstadt.de>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 7:25 PM
Subject: LF:= LF Propagation literature?


Hello Lowfers,
Is there any go= od literature in the web (web-site or pdf or book) about the propagation= on LF?
Best would be, if it is created by a ham for the hams!
73, Stefan/DK7FC



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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (rly-dg05.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.89]) by air-dg08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG083-5ca4af2a426b; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:08:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG057-5ca4af2a426b; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:08:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N5zFl-0000pv-Qv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:07:41 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N5zFl-0000pm-C4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:07:41 +0000 Received: from smtp23.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.22]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N5zFj-0005Im-Bz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:07:41 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2301.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E85F1700009A for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:07:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (145.220.195-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.195.220.145]) by msfrf2301.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 6D8F47000099 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:07:31 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091105100731448.6D8F47000099@msfrf2301.sfr.fr Message-ID: <002d01ca5dff$c7ea38a0$0201a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: References: <36F0AC319F8D4DA2B15968DBEB9CDEBD@ns94d01ae4d850> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:07:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091104-1, 04/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: BOJ 04-11.jpg Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002A_01CA5E08.29483DB0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01CA5E08.29483DB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Henny and LF=20 Many thanks for the pic control ...now I'm in beacon=20 137705.hz qrss3 for the eventualy SWL good week and=20 Best 73 's=20 Claude F8boj JN16WA ----- Original Message -----=20 From: henny van elst=20 To: blacksheep=20 Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 10:51 AM Subject: LF: BOJ 04-11.jpg Hi LF, Capture BOJ, Henny pa3cpm best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden= verzonden: BOJ 04-11.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen vir= ussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet to= e. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt we= ten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01CA5E08.29483DB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Henny and LF
Many thanks for the pic control ...no= w I'm in=20 beacon
137705.hz qrss3 for the eventualy SWL=   =20 good week and
Best 73 's
Claude F8boj JN16WA
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 05,= 2009 10:51=20 AM
Subject: LF: BOJ 04-11.jpg

Hi LF,
Capture BOJ,
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
Het bericht ka= n nu met het=20 volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
BOJ=20 04-11.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beve= iliging=20 tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijla= gen niet=20 toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wil= t weten=20 hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.
------=_NextPart_000_002A_01CA5E08.29483DB0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db10.mx.aol.com (rly-db10.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.85]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB104-af14b059e5279; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:37:10 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB107-af14b059e5279; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:36:51 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBCnF-0002Si-W7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:35:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBCnF-0002SZ-JJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:35:49 +0000 Received: from mail-yw0-f193.google.com ([209.85.211.193]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBCnE-0001mr-Rm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:35:49 +0000 Received: by ywh31 with SMTP id 31so5296753ywh.30 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:35:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=6lsTO73dN48yESc/xu2F6C1x2teJMyRK0WRHESG21Nk=; b=ZOwDXDG5DrMR4WS1RW5WozIABLjf5z8akOFAK6I4Md86cGxWj3i+iMuvvPNSJyJwo4 O68I5OkawSuwj4OyyDVrY8YD4SNi7yD8XJGIgABd6P2qnIDtl1qdOXx4HgWsckb7u0LK bs6ZNUbN5ePHyv5Mvi9YUv5Oo2Ls1Sz9Dy0aw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=FqlGlqijPjmat7u7LO6eFZ5Rn9af8CHEyFteSPRA4yQx7i8cLr/CbEu9UGLWqa6zAH hr15nJeqQh4h64kujhMIx1CX6qkLzk+MuzqBHruhEUb933uim+XBncURXtG1J2lB0Nlo 6nIjmKH7bWVbRJcaW0p1XoIAVfd72xJD9sr2I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.37.40 with SMTP id k40mr789345ybk.254.1258659340754; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:35:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B0581FC.5060203@online.fr> References: <4B0581FC.5060203@online.fr> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:35:40 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70911191135ybb0370bm3eff2c3e8bddeef7@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d243.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Jean-Pierre, Thank you for the report and 'grabber'. On a 500 grabber - in the US most beaconing is 505-510 kHz but modes vary some QRSS 3, some cw and sometimes WSPR. I hope to have a new beacon on near 183kHz - perhaps you can copy it at 0000 UTC when Europe 1 signs off? --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2009/11/19 "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" : > Hi Lubos, Warren, > Yes very good signals of Warren last night ! > It's a pity that the 137 Khz is forsaken more > and more with the profit from the 500 Khz ! > I think this winter of adding to my grabber > ( in the place of the European window ) the > band of the American beacons on 500 Khz . > Warren , think that it will be useful to monitor > the beacons of the American continent ? > 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj > > Lubos OK2BVG a =E9crit : >> >> Hello Warren, Jean-Pierre, LF! >> The XGJ signal was very nice last night (but I had opened a window and= my >> RX drifted abt 0.1Hz, =A0HI!) >> >> 73! >> >> Lubos, OK2BVG >> >> =A0_________________________________________________________________ >> Nov=E1 Windows 7: Kter=FD po=E8=EDta=E8 je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD? Dal= =B9=ED informace. >> http://windows.microsoft.com/shop >> >> -----------------------------------------------------------------------= - >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb11.mx.aol.com (rly-mb11.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.169]) by air-mb07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB074-d394af49c052d1; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:58:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB115-d394af49c052d1; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:58:31 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6Wnx-0006nn-OM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:57:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6Wnx-0006ne-C2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:57:13 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6Wmq-0000hd-2D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:56:05 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so1706958bwz.4 for ; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:57:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=YUOGBwO7E32B4Q2OwqE1V6XUUZY4k0KlDthCqlyqwzk=; b=a7QUx1JCaiOOQcm92ORHCJ7xkdAO34iO30gsSXyxd8uiHIaL+NzBwUEF3T4BrqLYyt 8AgjgP44uvr2mZPc03WP4SKsLdYAMYy6FGXLMRDbQH6Bc20QxznhdsS/icktzP6V+MMH lF2+G30bJ6N/D4TsLG68p/NmSK5t4Eg8K0cuo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=sdARSYYbU8QQPTN31CDJGZ8B3gO+AZeNdNJSYqLg5CLT3cb9odT63mGC31dUYQ8UYK U93OP0AKTE+MIK50ZPhPHfSanbMt2bct/xVmYGWE5e0i1pR357cVZQOV/HFqqtt+SD0M qFsv2rwBWLzegX4T3IHV5bcx0JnQow8M2FX10= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.155.90 with SMTP id r26mr1372944bkw.81.1257544625992; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:57:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:57:05 +0100 Message-ID: <9afca2640911061357g15160968m9f249ed8aaeb6184@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: SM6BHZ on 500kHz WSPR tonight? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175cfa6cb8b48a0477baec3a X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d226.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0015175cfa6cb8b48a0477baec3a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Anyone know if Gus is planning to be on 500kHz WSPR tonight? I'm hoping that he will (at last) decode me if he does appear. BTW, two new reporters this evening PA0AM and G4CAO - thanks to both. 73s Roger G3XBM -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --0015175cfa6cb8b48a0477baec3a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyone know if Gus is planning to be on 500kHz WSPR tonight? I'm hopin= g that he will (at last) decode me if he does appear.

BTW, two new= reporters this evening PA0AM and G4CAO - thanks to both.

73s
Ro= ger G3XBM
--
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http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XB= M =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088
--0015175cfa6cb8b48a0477baec3a-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME014-9cd4af6a2923b6; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:51:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME081-9cd4af6a2923b6; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:51:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N75LP-00056g-Ag for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:50:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N75LO-00056X-Vc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:50:02 +0000 Received: from out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.243]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N75KQ-0007uN-7E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:49:02 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArsEAGMx9kpOlLtr/2dsb2JhbACCUIFpiUMGyn+EPgQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,703,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="210527370" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.187.107]) by out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 08 Nov 2009 10:49:50 +0000 Message-ID: <019f01ca6061$34a80040$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:49:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_019C_01CA6061.34652AE0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_019C_01CA6061.34652AE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable WSPR is like a LAZY MAN using a WALKING STICK !!!!!! G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_019C_01CA6061.34652AE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
WSPR is like a LAZY MAN using a= WALKING STICK=20 !!!!!!
G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_019C_01CA6061.34652AE0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db05.mx.aol.com (rly-db05.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.80]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDB042-ac44b0feaef5f; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 10:06:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB052-ac44b0feaef5f; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 10:06:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NE2Nu-0005RW-NX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:05:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NE2Nu-0005RN-7u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:05:22 +0000 Received: from psmtp30.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.32]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NE2Ns-0008DM-0w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:05:22 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp30.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KTR0063WWKO2Z@psmtp30.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 16:05:12 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 16:04:38 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <23D0766293BC4843948B0A9AC68E0314@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: t): RA3YO 26-11.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_vDutA2q+AWs0WmpEVTuvSg)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --Boundary_(ID_vDutA2q+AWs0WmpEVTuvSg) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_CCnJCcEo7H+M4fJtzC3GSA)" --Boundary_(ID_CCnJCcEo7H+M4fJtzC3GSA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi LF, Capture ra3yo henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: RA3YO 26-11.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. --Boundary_(ID_CCnJCcEo7H+M4fJtzC3GSA) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Hi LF,
Capture ra3yo
henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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<4B07454D.5050101@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:41:33 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <124359.67090.qm@web63602.mail.re1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <124359.67090.qm@web63602.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR BEACONS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Andy - KU4XR wrote: > > By Jove !! is it possible that he finally " GOT IT " ??? > heavens to wonders !! I doubt it..... no airborne porcine creatures spotted... Hell reportedly still void of snowballs.... From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF051-5804aef648d393; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:00:43 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF103-5804aef648d393; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:00:31 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N55rb-000281-3I for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:59:03 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N55ra-00027s-7C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:59:02 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N55rX-0002VA-Qf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:59:02 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 02 Nov 2009 22:58:53 -0000 Received: from p5DD344E9.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO Clemens04) [93.211.68.233] by mail.gmx.net (mp045) with SMTP; 02 Nov 2009 23:58:53 +0100 X-Authenticated: #17214767 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/QJRMEsAfQ2djHzzZr38TfCIHAeZ74tU13KvioZ3 HmthSu2G9qptSa Message-ID: <002b01ca5c10$0ccec4f0$0201a8c0@Clemens04> From: "Clemens Paul" To: References: <9afca2640910310528p4f07557aifdc0557a68bfeff8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 23:58:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.52,0.52 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz attenuation graphs? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0027_01CA5C18.6C3A96F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01CA5C18.6C3A96F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger, it's the CCIR- RECOMMENDATION 368-7 . There are no free sources on the internet for these graphs at least I was not able to find any. Maybe DK8KW can help you, he has a graph for 150kHz on his HP http://www.qru.de/burg.html where you can also find his email address. 73 Clemens DL4RAJ ----- Original Message ----- From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 1:28 PM Subject: LF: 500kHz attenuation graphs? Can someone please point me to any CCIR or similar graphs (preferably on the internet) showing the attenuation with distance expected on groundwave and skywave at 500kHz? 73s Roger G3XBM -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.40/2471 - Release Date: 10/31/09 07:53:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01CA5C18.6C3A96F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Roger,
 
it's the CCIR-=20 RECOMMENDATION 368-7 .
There are no free sources on the internet for these graphs
at least I was not able to find any.
Maybe DK8KW can help you, he has a graph for 150kHz on his= HP
where you can also find his email=20 address.
 
73
Clemens
DL4RAJ
 
 
 
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Can someone please point me to any CCIR or similar gr= aphs=20 (preferably on the internet) showing the attenuation with distance= expected on=20 groundwave and skywave at 500kHz?

73s
Roger G3XBM

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------=_NextPart_000_0027_01CA5C18.6C3A96F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (rly-dg05.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.89]) by air-dg03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG034-5c44afd68c9127; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:10:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG051-5c44afd68c9127; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:10:19 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8wpZ-0002Vt-AD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:08:53 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8wpY-0002Vk-Q5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:08:52 +0000 Received: from mailout1.go2.pl ([193.17.41.11]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8wpY-0006g5-4m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:08:52 +0000 Received: from mailout1.go2.pl (unknown [10.0.0.103]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 343885D518C for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:08:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from unknown (unknown [10.0.0.142]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:08:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from 58-178-124-188.rev.pro-internet.pl [188.124.178.58] by poczta.o2.pl with ESMTP id XQbIdd; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:08:32 +0100 Message-ID: <004001ca646a$c6ec0cf0$3ab27cbc@niurhaxf0xcqlj> From: "Marcin" To: Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:08:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-O2-Trust: 2, 63 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: sp2kds Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear LF Station SP2KDS will be today started from 21:00 on 137.700 (qrss3) and later 137.778 kHz (qrss60). In time 20:00-21:00 search stations on 500kHz band. -- Vy 73! Marcin SQ2BXI (SP2KDS Team) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD103-b8e4b02707fba; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:44:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD078-b8e4b02707fba; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:44:33 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAKap-0001Gs-GG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:43:23 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAKap-0001Gj-2t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:43:23 +0000 Received: from mail-pw0-f45.google.com ([209.85.160.45]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAKao-0006G0-91 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:43:23 +0000 Received: by pwi15 with SMTP id 15so3940435pwi.4 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:43:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=WjNL2IfRGemwVYWwUDv//win9AVJPEGVT9iGbQnPxHg=; b=Dnw/aLa+HVx0kbNsP4JnQf01HTmtvQm463U1gveigd4QGDW/rt/9k6giDDp6fNLO27 dNmVEat9EFWr/2ATWCVaxD0waU1HSOhVrw35eexV8L7UYf5xJio6epizE/lnCSgDJ0WG pcQWNoPjAIPWOY5sHj8gsehhAcZgAbjJ8y6RY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=S5VIBLqB3zd9cN/S5Qv9DYX+QYiRap4lA2Gg9jqULAA/ttr7KANdQViEsKE5cE+Q4M qxECII91watWWILszFyJbp5g/zib5rML1qwVypL8raLr/eb3tbpngv4tifm2WGuJgUoy yd/z+4hmGpWFQmbigFku3qICMEjWG9uTyNGdg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.125.3 with SMTP id x3mr534835rvc.142.1258450995004; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:43:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <001c01ca670a$f7e34100$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> References: <1f0624b90911160805u4435bd18ue805924594d8b997@mail.gmail.com> <001c01ca670a$f7e34100$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:43:14 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: f6b95764c5d2b469 Message-ID: <1f0624b90911170143t7eee6620h8e84101b2d47715d@mail.gmail.com> From: Gary - G4WGT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd2178e86440004788df4c0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d237.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0cd2178e86440004788df4c0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Andrey, Yes you are correct, I noticed my mistake when looking for something else on the grabber saves, I saw the SSB traces. Ooops! it was SM6BHZ. 73, Gary - G4WGT. 2009/11/16 Andrey rn3agc > Hello Gary, LF, > WE2XGR/6?? I now hear SM6BHZ on the same frequency, RST569. > cw / a long dash / voice > > 73 Andrey > > > Hi All, >> >> Good signals from both stations last night. >> >> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo. >> >> > --000e0cd2178e86440004788df4c0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Andrey,

Yes you are correct, I noticed my mistake wh= en looking for something else on the grabber saves, I saw the SSB traces.= Ooops! it was SM6BHZ.

73,

Gary - G4WGT.



= 2009/11/16 Andrey rn3agc <rn3agc@mail.ru>
Hello Gary, LF,
WE2XGR/6?? I now hear SM6BHZ on the same frequency, RST569.
cw / a long dash / voice

73 Andrey


Hi All,

Good signals from both stations last night.

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.



--000e0cd2178e86440004788df4c0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da02.mx.aol.com (rly-da02.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.76]) by air-da03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA032-a514b09d55af6; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:20:49 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA021-a514b09d55af6; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:20:44 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCMeE-0006qS-KI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:19:18 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCMeE-0006qJ-4S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:19:18 +0000 Received: from mailt.toya.net.pl ([217.113.224.9] ident=postfix) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCMeC-0006hM-H9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:19:18 +0000 Received: from mail.toya.net.pl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.toya.net.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6937C20000055 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:19:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.103] (unknown [10.11.152.246]) (Authenticated sender: unimlyn) by mail.toya.net.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 57D6A20000051 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:19:15 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B09D502.8030200@toya.net.pl> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:19:14 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGlvdHIgTcWCeW5hcnNraQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: N-turn TX Loop Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear LF group, I would like to put for your consideration the issue of multi-turn transmitting loops. Have you ever done such an experiment on LF ? This sunday evening i decided to do some simple math and it turns out that such a N-turn TX loop should work ( at least on the paper) The radiation resistance is proportional to the square of so called "effective height" and this last term can be easily derived for a loop i.e. it is equal to 2*pi*A*N/lambda where A denotes area closed by a loop a N is the number of turns so the radiation resistance for a single turn loop reads as 320*pi^4*A^2/lambda^4 For the N-turns the radiation resistance obtained for a single turn is multiplied by N^2. Ok, the R (ac) is increased as we increase N but this is linear with respect to N and therefore we should have gain in the radiated power. (there is an implicit assumption made: the loop is "small" i.e. the current is constant) i did some calculations: assumed TX power ( and later, perfect match to the loop) 200 Watt environmental loss: 1.5 Ohm, diameter of the wire d = 3 mm, rectangular shape of the loop i.e 10 meters by 20 meters ( less optimal than square or circle ) so A = 200 sq.m For N =1 (classical tx loop) we get R(AC) = 0.62 Ohm ( Rac formula taken from ARRL Antenna Handbook, f = 137.7kHz) radiation resistance RRAD = 55.5 microOhm, total R loss = 2.12 Ohm, efficiency is 0.0026% and radiated pwr 5.2 miliWatts, I = 9.7 Amp. Next, I took N =3 so the wire length is changed from 60 meters to 180, everything else was kept the same and now one gets: R(ac)= 1.85 Ohm so R loss = 3.35 Ohm RRAD = 499.5 microOhm, efficiency increased to 0.015% and radiated pwr abt 30 miliWatt, I=7.7 Amp I am sorry bothering you but i simply would like to learn where is the 'catch' here - if there is one ... I guess the assumed loop i.e. 10 by 20 mters is 'reasonable' as TX antenna i took these values after reading the article about WD2XES first TX loop: 40 feet by 65 feet - well , almost the same dimensions.. :) From practical reasons the N values will likely be small , say, 2 or 3 but as the above numbers show maybe it is worth doing it. 73 de Piotr, sq7mpj qth: Lodz /jo91rs/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db06.mx.aol.com (rly-db06.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.81]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB032-acc4b06f51e16; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:59:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB062-acc4b06f51e16; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:59:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBZcu-0001Dg-BC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:58:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBZct-0001DX-Vp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:58:39 +0000 Received: from out1.ip09ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.245]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBZct-0002Q6-Db for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:58:39 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArsEAB6DBktZ8Ex6/2dsb2JhbACCUYs1Bo5QuDmEPAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,260,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="235828257" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([89.240.76.122]) by out1.ip09ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 20 Nov 2009 19:58:33 +0000 Message-ID: <008801ca6a1b$d6a66210$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:58:32 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: WSPR BEACONS Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0085_01CA6A1B.D6424910" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0085_01CA6A1B.D6424910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable These unattended Beacons are often a source of QRM for the CW QSO oper= ator, whereas a cw QSO operator in real time can qsy to take evasive= action and avoid qrm to others on adjacent frequencies. G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0085_01CA6A1B.D6424910 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
These unattended Beacons are often a= source of QRM=20 for the CW QSO operator, whereas a cw QSO operator in real time= can qsy to=20 take evasive action and avoid qrm to others on adjacent=20 frequencies.
G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_0085_01CA6A1B.D6424910-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (rly-dc09.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.38]) by air-dc06.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDC063-b3f4b1290ed32e; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:19:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC093-b3f4b1290ed32e; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:19:10 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NElXU-0001S5-9O for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:18:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NElXT-0001Rw-Qz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:18:15 +0000 Received: from mbox2.netikka.net ([213.250.81.203]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NElXT-0002dK-1c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:18:15 +0000 Received: from tupu.netikka.net (tupu [172.16.83.90]) by mbox2-feedback.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B2440814F for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:18:09 +0200 (EET) Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by tupu.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EE034B0058 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:18:09 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CA2F495B8F for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:18:09 +0200 (EET) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:18:09 +0200 Message-ID: <1259507889.4b1290b138ae4@imp.netikka.net> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:18:09 +0200 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: OE5ODL on 137.7kHz Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="-MOQ12595078896a00a7a43bab862f42b340d31215271d" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 ---MOQ12595078896a00a7a43bab862f42b340d31215271d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LF OE5ODL is a nice audible signal on 137.7kHz. 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X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: RE: 137 DX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01CA69C6.07AD27F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN, HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01CA69C6.07AD27F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Mal 137 is my next project though I am not really Dx from you. If I get a Tx set up I'll let you know for a CW QSO or two With best regards Jim Subject: LF: 137 DX LF GRP Is there enought acty on this band to justify the effort of getting started. Years ago there was over 30 countries active on cw on the band. I have 1w erp available and would like to work some dx de mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01CA69C6.07AD27F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01CA69C6.07AD27F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG103-9f74b016ddb350; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:21:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG021-9f74b016ddb350; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:21:01 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA3Mw-00068q-0K for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:19:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA3Mv-00068h-Kj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:19:53 +0000 Received: from mailout01.t-online.de ([194.25.134.80]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA3Mu-0000yk-V6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:19:53 +0000 Received: from fwd03.aul.t-online.de by mailout01.t-online.de with smtp id 1NA3Mr-0001Y1-05; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:19:49 +0100 Received: from e7010 (rI6ZfMZVZhkcCr65dZ9edbs7TnTnO-2QywxCjGF8gMTOVeEAlkZFt0nIdUFmuu7g8V@[84.147.233.80]) by fwd03.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1NA3Mf-1Trz4C0; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:19:37 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01ca66d0$368a6270$6402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:19:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: rI6ZfMZVZhkcCr65dZ9edbs7TnTnO-2QywxCjGF8gMTOVeEAlkZFt0nIdUFmuu7g8V X-TOI-MSGID: 8c62d136-d3c3-4ef9-b383-48826f29f2c6 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: DI2AG WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA66D8.96336480" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA66D8.96336480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear MF, DI2AG-beacon is now QRV in WSPR, duty cycle 33%. QRG 505.090K= Hz, PWR 0.4W ERP. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA66D8.96336480 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear MF,
      &= nbsp; =20 DI2AG-beacon is now QRV in WSPR, duty cycle 33%. QRG 505.090KHz, PWR= 0.4W=20 ERP.
73    Walter  DI2= AG /=20 DJ2LF
 
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA66D8.96336480-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (rly-dg05.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.89]) by air-dg05.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDG053-5cb4b124d0b2b; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 05:29:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG058-5cb4b124d0b2b; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 05:29:33 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEh16-0000Dj-SX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:28:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEh16-0000DZ-5u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:28:32 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEh14-0001bF-He for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:28:32 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED07D4C817F for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:28:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED6ED4C8181 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:28:24 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B124CC8.6060106@online.fr> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:28:24 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002201ca70da$b4515150$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> In-Reply-To: <002201ca70da$b4515150$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: LF T/A [137kHz] Grabber failed ! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF , This night , the grabber =93planted=94, cause is due to storm ! The K9AY broken ! at hour that it is repaired , ready for the next night ! 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME061-9ce4b06cde138a; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:12:09 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME082-9ce4b06cde138a; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:12:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBX00-0007nB-Rc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:10:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBX00-0007n2-G3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:10:20 +0000 Received: from mx38.mail.ru ([94.100.176.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBWzz-0001DS-E0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:10:20 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=58846 helo=EFREMOV) by mx38.mail.ru with asmtp id 1NBWzr-000LA7-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:10:11 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <002401ca6a04$4da31fb0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: References: <000501ca67ba$e4817db0$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <002e01ca682b$c42ac460$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <00b301ca6915$df7b7440$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:09:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 QRSS10 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Jay, LF, > T/A enthusiasts > > Thanks to Rik, Andrey, Pat, Ralph (and others for trying) from the Tuesday night QRSS3 session. Very > surprised to see the signal received in Russia! I also am very surprised by this reception! Unfortunately, last night only a trace at 00.25z. 73 Andrey From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD042-9294af59de43d5; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:19:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD101-9294af59de43d5; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:18:45 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6nz6-00010d-29 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:17:52 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6nz5-00010U-Hd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:17:51 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6nz0-0002CR-B4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:17:51 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so2169892bwz.4 for ; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 08:17:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=L5Wpy+rpZBDl8I7eHk51k5PcPUIAMOjoKNkU6j1C2yY=; b=V3DOqRvuTf514rP6AQ+wbDTV+IQqMachMHZkipnJ9S33CHc7WQFwFCQ1jOGyReNxF9 gAf7if4aHIlupQY7owkbSOjVcCqFRi/35oGJMUpHEXNI92AmRrZ7D9jgbSWynHAsv+dO vZqTT1MWT14sdqfuzvf+YM+tkYyHw6pKFvPLU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=B6DzCBI7qsSuoFalTU9e3/0C9yidxcXVdBwnAVC/ipSuhNEY0sJyaRpcKK04guCVSN F5tEcgPcvJ9LZ27ALRM6/bLd6LFVkE7Z0E8oyRY9ihjMf3i2jbGSPwVzlwe1uq9U9yRd Tuxl4i7jdjixF/h16adxE/oTFt5tTU5MhBQEw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.150.76 with SMTP id x12mr6233885bkv.30.1257610658295; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 08:17:38 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <2F1AB4DFB90B402ABA068A546B4AEDDE@radiorummet> References: <2F1AB4DFB90B402ABA068A546B4AEDDE@radiorummet> Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 16:17:38 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911070817h546534e4q7a3a8be61d767981@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 10 mW WSPR beacon. Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175dd9c68daf4c0477ca4cdc X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_FONT_BIG, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d261.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0015175dd9c68daf4c0477ca4cdc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gus, Getting a report from AA1A is amazing - really well done Gus. WSPR is remarkable with very low power signals. As you may know, I have been using <1mW ERP for several weeks and have bee= n heard by 27 stations in 5 countries with best DX 896kms. I now believe my ERP is approaching 2mW. I am hopeful that you will hear my tiny WSPR sign= al one night soon - maybe tonight overnight Gus? 73s Roger G3XBM 2009/11/7 Gus > Dear LF group, > > After running beacon WSPR night 6-7 November with only 10 mW ERP (125 mW= ) > TX power on 500 kHz it gives me great surprise, that a very long range= can > be achieved with extremely small power! > > Dave AA1A got a decoding where the distance between us is 5756 km. > > Also a number of EU stn=92s reported decodes. > > > On previous occasions, with a power of 1 W ERP is Laurence KL1X/BY3A > reported a number of decoding where the distance between us is 7284 km. > > I would also like to thank the other reporting from the night's 10 mW > broadcasts, and note that WSPR is a fashion which is particularly suitab= le > for very low power! > > 73 de Gus SM6BHZ > > www.sm6bhz.com > --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --0015175dd9c68daf4c0477ca4cdc Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gus,

Getting a report from AA1A is amazing - really well done Gus.= =A0 WSPR is remarkable with very low power signals.

As you may kno= w, I have been using <1mW ERP for several weeks and have been heard by= 27 stations in 5 countries with best DX 896kms. I now believe my ERP is= approaching 2mW.=A0 I am hopeful that you will hear my tiny WSPR signal= one night soon - maybe tonight overnight Gus?

73s
Roger G3XBM



2009/11/7= Gus <begu@algonet= .se>

Dear LF group,

After running beacon WSPR= night 6-7 November with only 10 mW ERP (125=20 mW) TX power on 500 kHz it gives me great surprise, that a very long range= can=20 be achieved with extremely small power!

Dave AA1A got a decoding= where the distance between us is 5756=20 km.

Also a number of EU stn=92= s reported=20 decodes.


On previous occ= asions, with=20 a power of 1 W ERP is Laurence KL1X/BY3A reported a number of decoding whe= re the=20 distance between us is 7284 km.

I would also like to thank the= other reporting from the night's 10 mW=20 broadcasts, and note that WSPR is a fashion which is particularly suitable= for=20 very low power!

73=20 de Gus SM6BHZ

www.sm6bhz.com




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http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088
--0015175dd9c68daf4c0477ca4cdc-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (rly-ma06.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.50]) by air-ma09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA092-8b04b004a9b1c7; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:38:33 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA062-8b04b004a9b1c7; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:38:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9jyX-0008G9-FI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:37:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9jyW-0008G0-Rl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:37:24 +0000 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net ([165.212.64.31]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9jyV-0002Hq-UT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:37:24 +0000 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net (cmsout01-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout01.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F742AC3F8 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:37:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps04.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.133] by cmsout01.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.58V) with ESMTP id XID392Nkoslq4688X01; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:37:16 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.133 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps04.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID392Nkoslq4688X01 Received: from [192.168.1.3] [151.47.212.35] by cmsapps04.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.53P) with ESMTPA id 413Nkoslo5472M40; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:37:15 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.212.35 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.1.3] Message-ID: <4B004A56.5050907@usa.net> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:37:10 +0100 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Z-USANET-MsgId: XID413NkoslP5472X40 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_HTML_ONLY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Weak Signals - was 500kHz CW - calling CQ Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY,MIME_HTML_ONLY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Andy Talbot wrote:
This presentation was aimed at Microwave operators, but has plenty of relevance to LF
 
http://g4jnt.com/MartleSham.htm
Includes soundclips of CW buried in noise with accurately defined S/N ratios

Andy
Very nice presentation Andy,

  there were any grumpy and disgruntled OMs in the audience objecting to your dismissal
of CW  as an effective weak-signal mode ?     :-)

73  Alberto  I2PHD

P.S. All the audio link in your presentation are broken as they all refer to WAV files on you C:
disk, which of course is not accessible when playing the presentation.




From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de04.mx.aol.com (rly-de04.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.140]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE051-4d04b02b432320; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:34:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE047-4d04b02b432320; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:33:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAP6g-0002yf-RU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:32:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAP6f-0002yW-R8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:32:33 +0000 Received: from idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca ([64.59.134.9]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAP6e-0008Vi-OU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:32:33 +0000 Received: from pd7ml2no-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.153.162]) by pd7mo1no-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 17 Nov 2009 07:32:23 -0700 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.0 c=1 a=bMPSwsB01Q4O/CPJ8uTuaw==:17 a=aatUQebYAAAA:8 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=yuwhsfIJp9vWr2LHqBIA:9 a=2g13vGON-ozafqIcZ5wA:7 a=N591OBmNWtXDUGi97Nr4cvi10x4A:4 a=rBKJJ2Jc0C4A:10 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 Received: from unknown (HELO Jordan1) ([68.147.20.14]) by pd7ml2no-dmz.prod.shaw.ca with SMTP; 17 Nov 2009 07:32:22 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Jordan" To: References: <1f0624b90911160805u4435bd18ue805924594d8b997@mail.gmail.com> <20091117081718.BDD6EF3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> <4B02B081.4080003@telus.net> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:32:22 -0700 Organization: VE6ZT MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.6 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: LF: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Definitely a breach of regulations and procedures....VE-"X" stations are not permitted 2-way contact with the Amateur service, nor any other service. Operation is strictly limited to Beacon operation only. 73...Jordan VE6ZT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 7:17 AM Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6 > The first illegal ON-VX QSO. > > > > Rik Strobbe wrote: >> Gary, All, >> >> yesterday I could copy VX9MRC in QRSS3 with a surprising strong signal as >> early as 18 UTC, when I launched Argo. >> Throughout the evening the signal was strong and with little QSB from >> 19-22UTC, after that the signal became weaker with much more QSB. >> Probably because I had a sked with Joe at 22:40 UTC ;-) . >> But despite all we managed to complete the QSO with both way M report >> (would have been a solid O earlier the evening). >> A first ON-VE QSO on 500kHz and with +/- 4075km a new DX record for me >> Joe transmitted on 507.770 and I on 501.190. >> Between 19 and 22 UTC the signal was audible most of the time and would >> have been CW copy if it were not squeezed between the NDB "Z" carrier at >> 507.980 (S9+ here) the SM6BHZ CW/SSB test transmissions (up to S9) and a >> local birdie on 507.600. >> >> For the QSO I was running 300W into my 11m high / 25m long lazy-L >> antenna, estimated ERP about 1.5 Watt (at best, if the greenery does not >> absorb too much) >> >> The night from Sunday - Monday I left Argo running, VX9MRC produced a >> good signal all through the night and faded out at 07UTC. This would mean >> that there is a potential transatlantic path on 500kHz for 13h a day !!! >> >> 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >> >> At 17:05 16/11/2009, you wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> >>> Good signals from both stations last night. >>> >>> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo. >> >> >> > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc03.mx.aol.com (rly-mc03.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.87]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC024-d614afdd02d374; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:31:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC031-d614afdd02d374; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:31:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N93iq-0005LK-HX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:30:24 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N93iq-0005LB-3D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:30:24 +0000 Received: from out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.243]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N93io-0008AR-Dm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:30:24 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApAFAB9f/UpOlMdA/2dsb2JhbACCIy2BaolYBo56uSiEPAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,739,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="222935065" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.199.64]) by out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 13 Nov 2009 21:29:56 +0000 Message-ID: <016b01ca64a8$75cdb7e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:30:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: 500 ACTY Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0168_01CA64A8.74E1AA30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0168_01CA64A8.74E1AA30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MF CW MEN A good nite so far for 500 and xband acty. Worked OZ8NJ and GM3BST on 500 and SQ5BPF, F6CNI, DL4RAJ and DF2PY xband 7033/3573. Some others got away= because of HF band condx. 73 and tnx to all for the CW acty de Mal/G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0168_01CA64A8.74E1AA30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
MF CW MEN
A good nite so far for 500 and xband= =20 acty.
Worked OZ8NJ and GM3BST on 500 and
SQ5BPF, F6CNI, DL4RAJ and DF2PY xband= 7033/3573.=20 Some others got away because of HF band condx.
73 and tnx to all for the CW acty
de Mal/G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_0168_01CA64A8.74E1AA30-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (rly-ma05.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.49]) by air-ma06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA064-8a74b007fc433e; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:25:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA051-8a74b007fc433e; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:25:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9nW4-0002iu-3p for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:24:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9nW3-0002ie-Ob for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:24:15 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9nW3-0003cp-2n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:24:15 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.6] (opc1.twatt.home [192.168.1.6]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C8F63B512 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:24:14 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4B007F8D.2090707@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:24:13 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1043CB7D895D4161B1C87CDD140332A2@AGB> <0CADF4DD71FD43A2A8384463754F6344@AGB> <4B005411.4010506@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <1C14999758D149228277CBBC2446F1D7@AGB> <4B006812.7010101@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <1A8E7857A7294C39AA873BDC76A001D8@AGB> In-Reply-To: <1A8E7857A7294C39AA873BDC76A001D8@AGB> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Running mW wspr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Graham wrote: > Not a beep ... > Set power to 200 mW as of 22-05 Condx seem to have taken a bit of a dive over the last hour or so. Thanks for trying. John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc03.mx.aol.com (rly-mc03.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.87]) by air-mc04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC042-d634b03eb983ab; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 07:42:06 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC033-d634b03eb983ab; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 07:42:01 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAjpy-00027w-1E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:40:42 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAjpx-00027n-44 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:40:41 +0000 Received: from smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com ([195.200.78.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAjpv-0000qN-HJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:40:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 19468 invoked by uid 507); 18 Nov 2009 13:40:23 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO JR) (john.rabson@numeo.fr@217.67.155.178) by smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com with SMTP; 18 Nov 2009 13:40:23 +0100 Message-ID: <200911181340310286.0AD12771@smtp2.numeo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:40:31 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: F8BOJ 40dB over QRM on 137 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 At 1240z. F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df09.mx.aol.com (rly-df09.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.22]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF052-5784b04881a247; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:49:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF095-5784b04881a247; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:49:48 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAuGT-0005nl-JN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:48:45 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAuGT-0005nc-3n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:48:45 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAuGQ-00066A-Vp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:48:45 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.4] (rx1.twatt.home [192.168.1.4]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45DC93B49B for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:48:42 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4B0487DA.5090509@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:48:42 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <005001ca688a$9e8c97b0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: VX9MRC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Laurence BY3A-KL1X China wrote: > Mal - > nothing from you on 508... I'd hope not! The UK allocation is 501-504kHz....? John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA093-8c14af6b3611ef; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:02:48 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA083-8c14af6b3611ef; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:02:43 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N76Sx-0005qT-4T for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:01:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N76Sw-0005qJ-I9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:01:54 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N76Rx-0008H4-PB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:00:54 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2293251C002 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:01:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25C95F3862 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:01:42 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id AD4D318056; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:01:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from 12.168-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (12.168-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.240.168.12]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:01:41 +0100 Message-ID: <20091108130141.ptdpp5udwsc8ksc4@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:01:41 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.240.168.12 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: New allocations for Norwegian radio Amateurs Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_4zmtj9c9wjcw" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --=_4zmtj9c9wjcw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable just received this 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T ----- Doorgestuurd bericht van la2rr@broadpark.no ----- Datum: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 12:50:29 +0100 Van: Ole Garpestad Hi folks, For your information: New secondary allocations for Norwegian radio amateurs As of November 6th 2009 the updated amateur radio licensing =20 regulations in Norway went into force. The main news are the following new allocations made available to all =20 Norwegian radio amateurs (in addition to the 135,7 - 137,8 kHz and the =20 7,1 - 7,2 MHz bands): LF: 493 - 510 kHz on secondary basis, 100 W, A1A (CW) only. HF: 5260 - 5410 kHz on secondary basis, all modes (6 kHz max bandwidth) 24740-24890 kHz on secondary basis, 1kW (6 kHz max bandwidth) VHF 70,0625-70,0875 MHz on secondary basis, 100 W, max bandwidth 16 kHz 70,1375-70,1875 MHz on secondary basis, 100 W, max bandwidth 16 kHz 70,2625-70,3125 MHz on secondary basis, 100 W, max bandwidth 16 kHz 70,3625-70,3875 MHz on secondary basis, 100 W, max bandwidth 16 kHz 70,4125-70,4625 MHz on secondary basis, 100 W, max bandwidth 16 kHz and some minor adjustments at SHF and EHF. As of today the full text is only available in Norwegian, but let me =20 know if you need any additional info, I will assist as best i can (the =20 URL for the Norwegian text is =20 http://www.lovdata.no/ltavd1/filer/sf-20091105-1340.html ). 73 Ole, LA2RR ----- Einde doorgestuurd bericht ----- --=_4zmtj9c9wjcw Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_LYRIS2319315075720091108065117rikstrobbefyskuleuvenbere_"; name="" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --_000_LYRIS2319315075720091108065117rikstrobbefyskuleuvenbere_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi folks, For your information: New secondary allocations for Norwegian radio amateurs As of November 6th 2009 the updated amateur radio licensing regulations in= Norway went into force. The main news are the following new allocations made available to all Norw= egian radio amateurs (in addition to the 135,7 - 137,8 kHz and the 7,1 -= 7,2 MHz bands): LF: 493 - 510 kHz on secondary basis, 100 W, A1A (CW) only. HF: 5260 - 5410 kHz on secondary basis, all modes (6 kHz max bandwidth) 24740-24890 kHz on secondary basis, 1kW (6 kHz max bandwidth) VHF 70,0625-70,0875 MHz on secondary basis, 100 W, max bandwidth 16 kHz 70,1375-70,1875 MHz on secondary basis, 100 W, max bandwidth 16 kHz 70,2625-70,3125 MHz on secondary basis, 100 W, max bandwidth 16 kHz 70,3625-70,3875 MHz on secondary basis, 100 W, max bandwidth 16 kHz 70,4125-70,4625 MHz on secondary basis, 100 W, max bandwidth 16 kHz and some minor adjustments at SHF and EHF. As of today the full text is only available in Norwegian, but let me know= if you need any additional info, I will assist as best i can (the URL for= the Norwegian text is http://www.lovdata.no/ltavd1/filer/sf-20091105-134= 0.html ). 73 Ole, LA2RR --_000_LYRIS2319315075720091108065117rikstrobbefyskuleuvenbere_ Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi folks,
 
For your information:
 
 
New secondary allocations for= Norwegian=20 radio amateurs
 
As of November 6th 2009 the updated= amateur=20 radio licensing regulations in Norway went into force.
The main news are the following new alloc= ations=20 made available to all Norwegian radio amateurs (in addition to the 135,7= - 137,8=20 kHz and the 7,1 - 7,2 MHz bands):
 
LF:
493 - 510 kHz on secondary basis, 100 W,= A1A (CW)=20 only.
 
HF:
5260 - 5410 kHz on secondary basis, all= modes (6=20 kHz max bandwidth)
24740-24890 kHz on secondary basis,= =20 1kW  (6 kHz max bandwidth)
 
VHF
70,0625-70,0875 MHz on secondary basis,= 100 W, max=20 bandwidth 16 kHz   
70,1375-70,1875 MHz on secondary basis,= 100 W, max=20 bandwidth 16 kHz
70,2625-70,3125 MHz on secondary basis,= 100 W, max=20 bandwidth 16 kHz
70,3625-70,3875 MHz on secondary basis,= 100 W, max=20 bandwidth 16 kHz
70,4125-70,4625 MHz on secondary bas= is, 100 W,=20 max bandwidth 16 kHz
 
and some minor adjustments at SHF and=20 EHF.
 
As of today the full text is only availab= le in=20 Norwegian, but let me know if you need any additional info, I will assist= as=20 best i can (the URL for the Norwegian text is  http:/= /www.lovdata.no/ltavd1/filer/sf-20091105-1340.html ).
<= /FONT>
 
73
Ole, LA2RR
 
 
 
 
 
--_000_LYRIS2319315075720091108065117rikstrobbefyskuleuvenbere_-- --=_4zmtj9c9wjcw-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC053-b374b03c18c132; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:42:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC083-b374b03c18c132; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:42:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAh2k-0000yl-L7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:41:42 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAh2j-0000yZ-M8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:41:41 +0000 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAh2i-0007S1-Fx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:41:41 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.1]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091118094135.PZDX17277.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:41:35 +0000 Received: from [81.109.247.175] (helo=jimdesk) by know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAh2Z-0004pC-K3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:41:35 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: References: <572081.7375.qm@web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:41:29 -0000 Message-ID: <02b601ca6833$4e59f6e0$0517aac0@jimdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <572081.7375.qm@web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Thread-Index: AcpoMWrrCm+VoCmASxyDQaVTv/2VgAAAS2hg X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=MDZQaXdsAAAA:8 a=8RloEfZUAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=XzrfCR61MmQPtzHM4p8A:9 a=C9PNA2NZDH64AnnVdv8A:7 a=Sw0b4iNCz2W10J1RAoQnxkx5yA0A:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=nhn505YfawQA:10 a=O58u2wXj750A:10 a=3Sf-kTeUB8AL-r8b:21 a=j5Cx0pzmvb2eDnVw:21 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=KDqohqnSO_qWppd6dAAA:9 a=0kc6OIgKMUe8DFH4fzQA:7 a=X_pNSmixoe4HPCcyoYwUHxb_nPsA:4 a=Yw4auK_1PsSwxIDI:21 a=zBjAJyCjIzCg_Cgx:21 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: RE: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02B7_01CA6833.4E59F6E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_02B7_01CA6833.4E59F6E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Pete The Rig only gets overly hot on powers over abt 20 watt output and 20%+ duty cycle (not to be unexpected given the operation at or beyond the limits of design). When I run it around 10 to 15 watts and on 10% duty it stays just lightly warm so as far as I can tell there is no discontinuity or paradox in the ouput/duty/warming matrix! The sidebands will no doubt be still there, just beyond the limit of detection With best regards Jim Dr. James Cowburn _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of M0FMT Sent: 18 November 2009 09:27 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands Hi LF I think the issue is intermodulation products caused by over driving the the linear RF stages of the TX into distortion because when Jim reduces drive the sidebands petty well disappear at this range. These observation is based upon test carried out yesterday. There is another issue Jim seems to have which is that his PA grossly over heats (I think I am right) when he reduces drive and that shouldn't happen. For modulation to take place the output of the modulator has to be mixed (hetrodyned) with the RF signal. In this case I am guessing that the carrier is modulated by noise (50c/s say) in the non linear (over driven linear RF stages) in the TX driver or output. The fact the PA over heats on reduced drive suggests to me the bias on the PA transistors is being altered by changes to the drive anther indication that the TX output may not be entirely linear --- On Wed, 18/11/09, James Moritz wrote: From: James Moritz Subject: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 1:13 Dear Jim LF Group, Looking at the sidebands on the G7NKS WSPR signals, mains hum or other noise by itself is not a sufficient explanation of what is seen. Simply adding 50Hz, 150Hz, etc. noise into the PC audio channel, then feeding the result into an SSB TX would give unwanted CW at frequencies offset from the SSB carrier frequency by +/-50Hz, 150Hz and so on, i.e. with the carrier "dial frequency" at 502.4kHz, unmodulated carriers would appear at 502.45kHz, 502.55kHz and so on, in addition to the WSPR signal at around 503.9kHz. However, these would probably largely be removed by the SSB filter in the rig. Instead, we see unwanted sidebands offset from the wanted WSPR signal frequency by +/- 50Hz, 150Hz, with identical modulation to the wanted signal. This requires some sort of non-linear process to cause the intermodulation between the presumed mains noise and the WSPR signal somewhere in the TX chain. One possibility is that intermodulation occurs in the PA. Jim's description suggests that he is persuading the HF PA in the IC735 to produce output at 500k. At this frequency, the PA linearity may well be poor due to the impedance matching, coupling, decoupling and feedback components in the PA being wrong for the frequency, and high flux densities occuring in ferrite components due to the low operating frequency. But this wouldn't explain why Jim also gets multiple received signals from a strong station with a clean signal, which implies some identical noise source and distortion in the receive path. It would also mean the mains noise getting through the filtering in the rig somehow. A possibility that would explain the unwanted sidebands appearing on both TX and RX signals is if one of the oscillators in the system has mains noise sidebands. The sound card clock seems unlikely, since this is just a simple crystal oscillator. I see the IC735 has some sort of multi-loop PLL synthesiser, which would certainly be prone to this type of spurious signal, since any kind of mains noise getting in would modulate the VCO frequencies, and would probably be the same on transmit and receive. This could be checked by receiving a clean carrier somewhere around 500kHz, and examining the audio output using Spec Lab or Argo or similar to see if 50Hz and 150Hz sidebands are present on the received audio tone. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Cowburn" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:26 PM Subject: LF: rule #2 - assumption is the brother of all foul ups > LF > > > > Sidebands are back! I think its caused by my TX getting hot and bothered by > struggling at 500. From cold it txs 50 watts but this soon drops back to > around 35, and the sidebands appear. My sigs are better so having the txfr > outside the shack and at the antenna is a vast improvement, but I now need > to work on the cooling. ------=_NextPart_000_02B7_01CA6833.4E59F6E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Pete

 

The Rig only ge= ts overly hot on powers over abt 20 watt output and 20%+ duty cycle (not to be unexpected give= n the operation at or beyond the limits of design).  When I run it arou= nd 10 to 15 watts and on 10% duty it stays just lightly warm so as far as I can te= ll there is no discontinuity or paradox in the ouput/duty/warming matrix! =

 

The sidebands= will no doubt be still there, just beyond the limit of detection

 

 

 

With best regar= ds

 

 

Jim=

 

 

Dr. James Cowbu= rn

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org [mailto:owner-= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of M0FMT
Sent: 18 November 2009= 09:27
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: Re: G7= NKS sidebands

 

Hi LF

 

I think the issue is intermodulation pro= ducts caused by over driving the the linear RF stages of the TX into distortion&n= bsp;because when Jim reduces drive the sidebands petty well disappear at this ra= nge. These observation is based upon test carried out yesterday. There is= another issue Jim seems to have which is that his PA grossly over heats (I= think I am right) when he reduces drive and that shouldn't happen. For modulati= on to take place the output of the modulator has to be mixed (hetrody= ned) with the RF signal. In this case I am guessing that the carrier is modula= ted by noise (50c/s say) in the non linear (over driven linear RF stages)= in the TX driver or output.

The fact the PA over heats on reduced dr= ive suggests to me the bias on the PA transistors is being altered by changes to= the drive anther indication that the TX output may not be entirely linear

--- On Wed, 18/11/09, James Mori= tz <james.moritz@btopenworld= .com> wrote:


From: James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
Subject: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 1:13

Dear Jim= LF Group,

Looking at the sidebands on the G7NKS WSPR signals, mains hum or oth= er noise by itself is not a sufficient explanation of what is seen. Simply ad= ding 50Hz, 150Hz, etc. noise into the PC audio channel, then feeding the= result into an SSB TX would give unwanted CW at frequencies offset from the= SSB carrier frequency by +/-50Hz, 150Hz and so on, i.e. with the carrier "dial frequency" at 502.4kHz, unmodulated carriers would= appear at 502.45kHz, 502.55kHz and so on, in addition to the WSPR signal at ar= ound 503.9kHz. However, these would probably largely be removed by the SS= B filter in the rig. Instead, we see unwanted sidebands offset from the wante= d WSPR signal frequency by +/- 50Hz, 150Hz, with identical modulation to th= e wanted signal. This requires some sort of non-linear process to cause the intermodulation between the presumed mains noise and the WSPR signal somewhere in the TX chain.

One possibility is that intermodulation occurs in the PA. Jim's desc= ription suggests that he is persuading the HF PA in the IC735 to produce out= put at 500k. At this frequency, the PA linearity may well be poor due to th= e impedance matching, coupling, decoupling and feedback components in= the PA being wrong for the frequency, and high flux densities occuring in= ferrite components due to the low operating frequency. But this wouldn't exp= lain why Jim also gets multiple received signals from a strong station with= a clean signal, which implies some identical noise source and distortion in= the receive path. It would also mean the mains noise getting through the filtering in the rig somehow.

A possibility that would explain the unwanted sidebands appearing on= both TX and RX signals is if one of the oscillators in the system has mains= noise sidebands. The sound card clock seems unlikely, since this is just= a simple crystal oscillator. I see the IC735 has some sort of multi-loop PLL synthesiser, which would certainly be prone to this type of spurious= signal, since any kind of mains noise getting in would modulate the VCO freq= uencies, and would probably be the same on transmit and receive. This could= be checked by receiving a clean carrier somewhere around 500kHz, and examining= the audio output using Spec Lab or Argo or similar to see if 50Hz and 150Hz si= debands are present on the received audio tone.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU


----- Original Message ----- From: "James Cowburn" <james.cowburn@virgin.net>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org>
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:26 PM
Subject: LF: rule #2 - assumption is the brother of all foul ups


> LF
>
>
>
> Sidebands are back!  I think its caused by my TX getting= hot and bothered by
> struggling at 500.  From cold it txs 50 watts but this soo= n drops back to
> around 35, and the sidebands appear.  My sigs are better= so having the txfr
> outside the shack and at the antenna is a vast improvement, but= I now need
> to work on the cooling.

 

------=_NextPart_000_02B7_01CA6833.4E59F6E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg03.mx.aol.com (rly-dg03.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.87]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDG071-5b74b131eeb3d7; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:25:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG038-5b74b131eeb3d7; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:25:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEuzP-0004wA-Hs for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:23:43 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEuzP-0004w1-4G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:23:43 +0000 Received: from smtp22.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.11]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEuzN-0006Pw-T0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:23:43 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2208.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4CEF37000082 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:23:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (12.5.194-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.194.5.12]) by msfrf2208.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 0D7FE7000081 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:23:31 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091130012332553.0D7FE7000081@msfrf2208.sfr.fr Message-ID: <000a01ca715b$bab001a0$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: References: <000601ca7145$6ec0c650$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> <000e01ca7147$a4916850$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:23:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091129-1, 29/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: F8boj qrss60 137776.20hz Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Good night Andrey LF Many thanks for your very good grabber good week Claude f8boj jn16wa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:59 PM Subject: LF: Re: F8boj qrss60 137776.20hz > Hello Claude > Here now a dirty air( > > 73 Andrey > >> Good evening Andrey >> Many thanks for the openning your grabber >> y copy my traces very well >> thanks you very match also for the Markus DF6NM grabber >> and F1afj JPierre good night for all >> Claude F8boj JN16wa > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb01.mx.aol.com (rly-mb01.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.154]) by air-mb03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB031-cec4b092c6424b; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:20:09 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB018-cec4b092c6424b; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:19:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCBPA-0002dE-FT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:19:00 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCBPA-0002d5-3r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:19:00 +0000 Received: from mbox2.netikka.net ([213.250.81.203]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCBP8-0003uI-Ef for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:19:00 +0000 Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by mbox2.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E137340810B for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:18:52 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBCAB495B9D for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:18:52 +0200 (EET) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:18:52 +0200 Message-ID: <1258892332.4b092c2cd7c34@imp.netikka.net> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:18:52 +0200 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: DK7FC/P 559 calling CQ on 136.8kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) LF Nice mid-day condx. Now listening to DK7FC/P JN49IS RST 559 calling CQ in= CW on 136.8kHz 1215UTC. Mini-Whip @ 10m AGL / IC-R75 Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ Vaasa / KP03SD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDC034-b214b103a1b36a; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:44:23 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC055-b214b103a1b36a; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:44:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NE7eb-0007Sw-MK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:42:57 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NE7eb-0007Sn-40 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:42:57 +0000 Received: from smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.16]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NE7eY-0002Cm-PQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:42:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 7947 invoked from network); 27 Nov 2009 20:42:49 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=vxqaj6XpmSKUu2sVRQWtdw5qU7TmajEiRV4akQSjQzGxZqpUBi3fqEWf+qIi6RxYcrdTTHrTbSME/MvQQ9RIRGxH65DfC2z6Az2EBedhuznFcg9QH4hnlp3/mKK2DkcW5VTZKc2heU6FiFUlczAinVgprmh7YWtGoKLQ4WVqg+0= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@213.122.67.247 with login) by smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Nov 2009 20:42:48 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: KHdpK2OswBBXlm4uxknbEiS4uYdJoGknHN90u4K8__lTafnafZg- X-YMail-OSG: p77kcX4VM1nsIJfXNUYHliuYtFlWV133GQzFNRWUfjrBzOLcXsCQQpjjphL1j.zaq0EhBc7mrib26ElCEWXBFtzEF.Gy3lpQsTTB2jx4YIteKSo.eVwaUsqlLhwjG87ULMOH1QTGx98hQDbbVytTI_aDn21pEO03oUoqF.WuI9.4_8TMARiA6sMadkQ9Y2rpVUKSXiRGhJ_J45Ctzf9Tj_tOg46qsDiz4Vhn6ttREZVenSTkEcdWNq0oWlySfVYjnlXdX2TGPXL6o0xoTFbYZNN6a4yA5SWzCQ2oSKceBJWKOrgvyoQvMTE36gx8aduk5G7u8cHr2Bs.V8Xm6nvuTEt8RhbbJgE- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <004301ca6fa2$2fb1d890$0900a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <806352.5294.qm@web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:42:36 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: How do I use Spectrum Lab as a VLF Soft Receiver ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 I am not sure about this you need to scour the help files but the SID receiver is not meant for listening to it is to produce a sig-strength v time plot. You might need some fairly crafty software connection for Spec Lab Wolf will maybe reply he does monitor. As an easy alternative try WinRad by Alberto www.weaksignals.com and just stick a wire into the mic input and you get a full SDR receiver. I am not sure you get sound out even then you may be Virtual Audio Cable, or perhaps Alberto has a hook in the code now. The thing is you are using the card twice....once to pruduce the receiver and again to produce the audio output. I cant check at the moment I am still in the process of loading up this PC. Best Wishes Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy - KU4XR" To: ; Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 7:14 PM Subject: LF: How do I use Spectrum Lab as a VLF Soft Receiver ? > Hello All: > > I have recently been trying to get a soundcard VLF receiver > going. I found a SAQ receiver on the web designed by > Johan - SM6LKM. It works good I suppose never having tried > this before. I can hear " Radio noise " in other words, it > actually sounds like a receiver. When I connect enough > coils in series, with a variable cap to ground to make a > pre-selector, The noise floor will rise 20 dB when I tune > the Cap. and you can see the peak move across the spectrum > display. However, that's as far as you can go, You can't > choose a sound card, it automatically chooses the windows > default card, and I haven't found a way to use DSP filtering > with it, since everything is based on the sound card alone. > > Now for Spectrum Lab, It has a built in " SID " receiver, > and the built in DSP filters work in the program. I just can't > get it to work !!!!! All I can get is low freq. hum, or > digital noise. It makes no difference with or without an Ant. > I've changed sound card sample rates, and FFT settings, > nothing works for me. > > Does anyone have any suggestions for me to try ?? Thank you. > > 73 to all ::: > > > Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN. > LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 185.29866 KHz ( QRSS-60 ) > Coordinates: N: 35* 43' 54" - W: 84* 3' 16" > http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr > http://webpages.charter.net/ku4xr/ > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD083-9294b0325951bf; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:37:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD101-9294b0325951bf; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:37:10 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAWek-0006vI-Ry for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:36:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAWek-0006v9-Cw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:36:14 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAWej-0002dZ-Qm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:36:14 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ABF17B8053 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:35:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CBE831E702 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:35:54 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id AA8AA18056; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:35:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from 39.10-180-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (39.10-180-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [91.180.10.39]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:35:53 +0100 Message-ID: <20091117233553.n5v35rzuow8swks8@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:35:53 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <000501ca67ba$e4817db0$6c01a8c0@DELL4> In-Reply-To: <000501ca67ba$e4817db0$6c01a8c0@DELL4> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 91.180.10.39 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Jay, condx are improving rapidly. Now "O" copy of XGR2, marginal audible 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting "jrusgrove@comcast.net" : > T/A enthusiasts > > WE2XGR/2 will beacon in QRSS3 mode tonight on 506.5 kHz from ~ 2130 to ~ > 0030 Z. Reports appreciated. > > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG042-a1b4b08e332183; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:07:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG065-a1b4b08e332183; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:07:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NC6WS-0000Ik-0Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:06:12 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NC6WQ-0000Ib-Mi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:06:10 +0000 Received: from col0-omc1-s15.col0.hotmail.com ([65.55.34.25]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NC6WN-0002VX-SK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:06:10 +0000 Received: from COL122-W13 ([65.55.34.7]) by col0-omc1-s15.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:05:58 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:05:58 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Nov 2009 07:05:58.0649 (UTC) FILETIME=[3E0C5690:01CA6B42] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_9754aab7-4463-4848-be30-df8a2ec25611_" Subject: LF: VX9MRC_in_OK X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --_9754aab7-4463-4848-be30-df8a2ec25611_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_d5b87562-0f6b-49e5-b4a4-103d3b5f7a3e_" --_d5b87562-0f6b-49e5-b4a4-103d3b5f7a3e_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Joe, LF! I tried to receive on 507.775kHz and I was successfull - see captures. I= think, it might be the first report of MRC=B4s signal in OK, so I am very= pleased (Can you confirm it, Joe?). I will be ready next night as well. Aerial: LF-Amrad (home made) RX: SPM-30 with selective preamplifier (home made) 73! Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS =20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: Zjedodu=B9te si ka=BEdodenn=ED =FAkoly. Kter=FD po=E8=EDta=E8= je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD? http://windows.microsoft.com/shop=3D --_d5b87562-0f6b-49e5-b4a4-103d3b5f7a3e_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Joe, LF!
I tried to receive on 507.775kHz and I was successfull= - see captures. I think, it might be the first report of MRC=B4s signal= in OK, so I am very pleased (Can you confirm it, Joe?). I will be ready= next night as well.

Aerial: LF-Amrad (home made)
RX: SPM-30 wit= h selective preamplifier (home made)

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88= KS 

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Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd2113aa43e0c04788f204f X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d305.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0cd2113aa43e0c04788f204f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Laurence, LF, You wrote :- "Anybody want to comment on whether their audio spectrum output from their SDR IQ is a bit "lumpy" with not exactly flat levelling across the 1-4Khz range? Maybe my soundcard but I see some variations of a couple of dBs on this one..." I use a Softrock Lite on 500kHz connected to a Mini-Whip active antenna. I get a hump in various places depending on what part of the band the main antenna is tuned to, so I have to put up with that. If the main antenna is disconnected from the tuning coil at the base then the Softrock & Mini-Whip produces a flat band from 490 kHz to 510 kHz. 2009/11/17 Laurence BY3A-KL1X China > Congrats all - > > its a very (very) quiet night so far on LF/MF which may signify either > very good or very bad, and am present looking for signals from NA - > > > Im not that good to tell you which until Eu gets dark. Its not been very > good the past day or so with mediocre signals on 137 from DCF39 et al - > still Ill be looking on any desired freq. > > I can hear Loran clatter on 137 which means the local QRN is very low and > NDB "DD" (Located near Xlbreast, China) :-) is putting is a Fully > developed signal. > > Nice clear night here already and looking for some nice shooting stars..saw > a couple of > spectacular ones last week in Mexico. > > Anybody want to comment on whether their audio spectrum output from their > SDR IQ is a bit "lumpy" with not exactly flat levelling across the 1-4Khz > range? Maybe my soundcard but I see some variations of a couple of dBs on > this one... > > Laurence KL1 X in BY3A > > Still jetlagged. > > > > > > Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:13:41 +0100 > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be > > Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6 > > > > Peter, > > > > likewise, I saw on Joe's website that you had a QRSS3 QSO with him > > earlier some days ago. > > > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > > > At 11:04 17/11/2009, you wrote: > > >Congratulations Rik > > > > > >Peter, G3LDO > > > > Rik, > > > > > > > > Well done. > > > > > > > > I should be in a position to attempt the same as I saw solid QRS > > > > signals from Joe. > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > > > > > 2009/11/17 Rik Strobbe > > > > > > > > > > > > Gary, All, > > > > > > > > yesterday I could copy VX9MRC in QRSS3 with a surprising strong > > > > signal as early as 18 UTC, when I launched Argo. > > > > Throughout the evening the signal was strong and with little QSB > > > > from 19-22UTC, after that the signal became weaker with much more > QSB. > > > > Probably because I had a sked with Joe at 22:40 UTC ;-) . > > > > But despite all we managed to complete the QSO with both way M > > > > report (would have been a solid O earlier the evening). > > > > A first ON-VE QSO on 500kHz and with +/- 4075km a new DX record for > me > > > > Joe transmitted on 507.770 and I on 501.190. > > > > Between 19 and 22 UTC the signal was audible most of the time and > > > > would have been CW copy if it were not squeezed between the NDB > > > > "Z" carrier at 507.980 (S9+ here) the SM6BHZ CW/SSB test > > > > transmissions (up to S9) and a local birdie on 507.600. > > > > > > > > For the QSO I was running 300W into my 11m high / 25m long lazy-L > > > > antenna, estimated ERP about 1.5 Watt (at best, if the greenery > > > > does not absorb too much) > > > > > > > > The night from Sunday - Monday I left Argo running, VX9MRC > > > > produced a good signal all through the night and faded out at > > > > 07UTC. This would mean that there is a potential transatlantic > > > > path on 500kHz for 13h a day !!! > > > > > > > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > > > > > > > At 17:05 16/11/2009, you wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > Good signals from both stations last night. > > > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. > --000e0cd2113aa43e0c04788f204f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Laurence, LF,

You wrote :-
"Anybody want= to comment on whether their audio spectrum output=A0from their SDR IQ is= a bit "lumpy" with not exactly flat levelling across the 1-4Khz= range? Maybe my soundcard but I see some variations of a couple of dBs on= this one..."

I use a Softrock Lite on 500kHz connected to a Mini-Wh= ip active antenna. I get a hump in various places depending on what part= of the band the main antenna is tuned to, so I have to put up with that.= If the main antenna is disconnected from the tuning coil at the base then= the Softrock & Mini-Whip produces a flat band from 490 kHz to 510 kHz= .

2009/11/17 Laurence BY3A-KL1X China <helloze= rohellozero@hotmail.com>
Congrats all -
=A0
=A0its a very (very) quiet night so far on LF/MF which may signify=A0eithe= r very good or very bad, and am present looking for signals from NA=A0- =A0
=A0
Im not that good to tell you which until Eu gets dark. Its not been very= good the past day or so with mediocre signals on 137 from DCF39 et al =A0= - still Ill be looking on any desired freq.
=A0
I can hear Loran clatter on 137 which means the local QRN is very low and= NDB "DD" (Located near Xlbreast, China) :-) is putting is a Ful= ly developed=A0signal.=A0
=A0
Nice clear night here already and looking for some=A0nice shooting stars..= saw a couple of
spectacular=A0ones last week in=A0Mexico.
=A0
Anybody want to comment on whether their audio spectrum output=A0from thei= r SDR IQ is a bit "lumpy" with not exactly flat levelling across= the 1-4Khz range? Maybe my soundcard but I see some variations of a coupl= e of dBs on this one...
=A0
Laurence=A0KL1 X in BY3A
=A0
Still jetlagged.
=A0
=A0
=A0
=A0
> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:13:41 +0100
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g
> From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be
> Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6
>
> Peter,=
>
> likewise, I saw on Joe's website that you had a QRSS= 3 QSO with him
> earlier some days ago.
>
> 73, Rik ON= 7YD - OR7T
>
> At 11:04 17/11/2009, you wrote:
> >Congratulations= Rik
> >
> >Peter, G3LDO
> > > Rik,
>= > >
> > > Well done.
> > >
> > >= ; I should be in a position to attempt the same as I saw solid QRS
> > > signals from Joe.
> > >
> > > Gary= - G4WGT.
> > >
> > > 2009/11/17 Rik Strobbe <<= a href=3D"mailto:rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be" target=3D"_blank">rik.strobb= e@fys.kuleuven.be
> > > <mailto:rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>>
> > &g= t;
> > > Gary, All,
> > >
> > > yester= day I could copy VX9MRC in QRSS3 with a surprising strong
> > > signal as early as 18 UTC, when I launched Argo.
> &g= t; > Throughout the evening the signal was strong and with little QSB> > > from 19-22UTC, after that the signal became weaker with= much more QSB.
> > > Probably because I had a sked with Joe at 22:40 UTC ;-) .> > > But despite all we managed to complete the QSO with both= way M
> > > report (would have been a solid O earlier the eve= ning).
> > > A first ON-VE QSO on 500kHz and with +/- 4075km a new DX re= cord for me
> > > Joe transmitted on 507.770 and I on 501.190.=
> > > Between 19 and 22 UTC the signal was audible most of th= e time and
> > > would have been CW copy if it were not squeezed between the= NDB
> > > "Z" carrier at 507.980 (S9+ here) the SM6= BHZ CW/SSB test
> > > transmissions (up to S9) and a local bir= die on 507.600.
> > >
> > > For the QSO I was running 300W into my 11= m high / 25m long lazy-L
> > > antenna, estimated ERP about 1.= 5 Watt (at best, if the greenery
> > > does not absorb too muc= h)
> > >
> > > The night from Sunday - Monday I left Arg= o running, VX9MRC
> > > produced a good signal all through the= night and faded out at
> > > 07UTC. This would mean that ther= e is a potential transatlantic
> > > path on 500kHz for 13h a day !!!
> > >
>= > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T
> > >
> > > At 17:= 05 16/11/2009, you wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi All,
&= gt; > >
> > > Good signals from both stations last night.
> > &g= t;
> > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.
> > >
> >= >
> > >
> > >
>
>

=
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--000e0cd2113aa43e0c04788f204f-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db10.mx.aol.com (rly-db10.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.85]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB031-aeb4b02b20a1ee; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:24:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB101-aeb4b02b20a1ee; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:24:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAOxB-0002pm-5r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:22:45 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAOxA-0002pd-3j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:22:44 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([199.185.220.240]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAOx7-0000MY-7d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:22:44 +0000 Received: from edtnaa01.telusplanet.net ([75.157.140.241]) by priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091117141834.QQDN703.priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net@edtnaa01.telusplanet.net> for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:18:34 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.67] (d75-157-140-241.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.140.241]) by edtnaa01.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id EC35B2F227993EDF for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:17:37 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4B02B081.4080003@telus.net> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 06:17:37 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1f0624b90911160805u4435bd18ue805924594d8b997@mail.gmail.com> <20091117081718.BDD6EF3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20091117081718.BDD6EF3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) The first illegal ON-VX QSO. Rik Strobbe wrote: > Gary, All, > > yesterday I could copy VX9MRC in QRSS3 with a surprising strong signal > as early as 18 UTC, when I launched Argo. > Throughout the evening the signal was strong and with little QSB from > 19-22UTC, after that the signal became weaker with much more QSB. > Probably because I had a sked with Joe at 22:40 UTC ;-) . > But despite all we managed to complete the QSO with both way M report > (would have been a solid O earlier the evening). > A first ON-VE QSO on 500kHz and with +/- 4075km a new DX record for me > Joe transmitted on 507.770 and I on 501.190. > Between 19 and 22 UTC the signal was audible most of the time and > would have been CW copy if it were not squeezed between the NDB "Z" > carrier at 507.980 (S9+ here) the SM6BHZ CW/SSB test transmissions (up > to S9) and a local birdie on 507.600. > > For the QSO I was running 300W into my 11m high / 25m long lazy-L > antenna, estimated ERP about 1.5 Watt (at best, if the greenery does > not absorb too much) > > The night from Sunday - Monday I left Argo running, VX9MRC produced a > good signal all through the night and faded out at 07UTC. This would > mean that there is a potential transatlantic path on 500kHz for 13h a > day !!! > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > At 17:05 16/11/2009, you wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> Good signals from both stations last night. >> >> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo. > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD022-9104b0380e539f; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:06:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD068-9104b0380e539f; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:06:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAcjT-0008Vs-6N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:05:31 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAcjS-0008Vj-4C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:05:30 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAcjP-00063h-Lh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:05:30 +0000 Received: from edmwaa03.telusplanet.net ([75.157.140.241]) by priv-edmwes23.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091118050525.YWKA1978.priv-edmwes23.telusplanet.net@edmwaa03.telusplanet.net> for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:05:25 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.67] (d75-157-140-241.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.140.241]) by edmwaa03.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 0157235667C139F1 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:05:25 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4B038095.9050807@telus.net> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:05:25 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <9afca2640911170243q3b4e2c95kb2668b937e727070@mail.gmail.com> <4B02BF9E.5020701@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <9afca2640911170734u7ebc121em5be88d61d99be249@mail.gmail.com> <20091117160109.6F44BF3863@smtps02.kuleuven.be> <4B02E76F.60609@mail.ru> In-Reply-To: <4B02E76F.60609@mail.ru> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: UA0AET Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Dmitry Could UA0AET try at a time of mutual darkness between UA0 and VE7? Please relay message. 73 Scott VE7TIL CN89dk http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/ Dmitry wrote: > Hi LF! > > UA0AET on DF6NM and BY3A-KL1X grabbers 137778.6 dfcw120 > > Dmitry > RA3YO > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de10.mx.aol.com (rly-de10.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.146]) by air-de08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE081-50b4b07abe43ab; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:59:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE106-50b4b07abe43ab; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:59:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBlnQ-0003IX-5M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:58:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBlnP-0003IO-Ns for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:58:19 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBlnO-0006BD-Vd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:58:19 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CF804C816E for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:58:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0724A4C808C for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:58:12 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B07ABA4.4060102@online.fr> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:58:12 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: LF T/A [137 kHz] good conditions ! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF, Good conditions last night on 137 Khz ! Yesterday evening : =93Y=94 (RA3YO) dfcw60 =93KDS=94 (????) qrss120 =93XKO=94 (WD2XKO) qrss 30 This Morning : XKO (WD2XKO) qrss60 Dex, pse look on my grabber , your sig are vy strong ! Thank you to be returned on 137 Khz ! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA011-8d34b08603c175; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:49:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA105-8d34b08603c175; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:48:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBxoF-00036E-6M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:47:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBxoE-000365-PJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:47:58 +0000 Received: from mail-px0-f177.google.com ([209.85.216.177]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBxoD-0002In-3B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:47:58 +0000 Received: by pxi7 with SMTP id 7so1629038pxi.17 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:47:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=rjD8frcFOflbXjwYDT9xgfHTuQdSp+SDQU2EiQIuO3A=; b=mHPO9YfOKVN86zGgb5nPUl+gmnrRKaUpBVHVqqATMRhtwnJP3mt3x3hpsLBo55ytJW i2B2pf0q3rE8E9WSDanJwcNwinuQCNxvyzJ6zqPpgQmSJ3bOUaoKd1YEuN+5yRBMcQLW pVLa1vYGULAT1B0bhZ/m6U8/ZvdGH7sNfJpUk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Poqn3dhjyHVwmC4GNHQ5OP6VSUUstx/kc1bcaX1eWrR5yWf0Y5ZgUFY/kg4lo5uj8d AEWHQGKjRCkzHWg3vCCTodaUIzRF6YXQoHfgI7Iei809aUJuhOTjGl0SV0/ZxWmRJjyJ /xUdrDCmvnhbVtAfNVDUcx1FHSKZK+RaWX+70= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.29.14 with SMTP id g14mr178556rvj.192.1258840068333; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:47:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4B04EADA.4090707@telus.net> <57a24ca70911190525s5bbf2768gcfe5e7150eb8f784@mail.gmail.com> <20091121211012.fehyrbxl4400ckc8@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:47:48 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 38ac1c78da9b856e Message-ID: <1f0624b90911211347o1e065203o6a2d769222f770b7@mail.gmail.com> From: Gary - G4WGT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: temporary grabber Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=000e0cd179901a223e0478e88bef X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m235.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --000e0cd179901a223e0478e88bef Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd179901a22330478e88bed --000e0cd179901a22330478e88bed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Joe, Copy here in NW UK also at 2142utc. 73 Gary - G4WGT 2009/11/21 > Thanks, Rik. > > It appears as the signals are there already. > > 73 > Joe > > On Sat, 21 Nov 2009, Rik Strobbe wrote: > > In the mean time, VX9MRC is presently on 507.77 kHz transmitting QRSS10 >>> >> >> Hello Joe, >> >> I have set up a temporary 507.77 kHz grabber at >> http://www.strobbe.eu/argo/argo.jpg >> >> 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >> >> > --000e0cd179901a22330478e88bed Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Joe,

= Copy here in NW UK also at 2142utc.

73
=
Gary - G4WGT


2009/11/21 <jcrai= g@mun.ca>
Thanks, Rik.

It appears as the signals are there already.

73
Joe

On Sat, 21 Nov 2009, Rik Strobbe wrote:

In the mean time, VX9MRC is presently on 507.77 kHz transmitting QRSS10

Hello Joe,

I have set up a temporary 507.77 kHz grabber at http://www.strobbe.eu/argo/argo.jp= g

73, Rik =A0ON7YD - OR7T



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<287859382.1258239176.158750212.87677@mcgi38.rambler.ru> <4AFF3A89.50604@ukonline.co.uk> Message-Id: <453502112.1258243350.166801688.88169@mcgi39.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Grabber is ON Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 G/E Peter. Congratulations! I copy your signal! http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/15nov2009_G3LDO/499.6W_3_00001.jpg And fine trace into 10: http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/15nov2009_G3LDO/499.6W_10_00002.jpg * Peter Dodd [Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:17:29 +0000]: > Hi Roman. > > 501.05kHz > > Peter, G3LDO > > > > My grabber started on up to finished your activity. > > qrss.nm.ru -> grabber. > > Looking to 501.2-501.36 and 502.0 > > Whats a real freq, Peter? > > > > -- > > Roman RW3ADB. > > > > > > > > -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (rly-dc02.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.31]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC032-b094b0846c53aa; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:00:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC025-b094b0846c53aa; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:00:07 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBw6z-0001E3-ML for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:59:13 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBw6z-0001Dt-3M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:59:13 +0000 Received: from out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.237]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBw6x-0002ib-3C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:59:13 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq8EAMvVB0tZ8oIK/2dsb2JhbACCJCuLOAbFOIQ8BA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,264,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="113089882" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([89.242.130.10]) by out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 21 Nov 2009 19:59:03 +0000 Message-ID: <00b301ca6ae5$12a838f0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <009b01ca6ae1$a841c970$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:59:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: ru6la Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B0_01CA6AE5.1254C1C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00B0_01CA6AE5.1254C1C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ed Pse CW ur 569 kk mal g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 7:34 PM Subject: LF: ru6la Nw 579 audible big signal. Tnx for earlier qso de mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_00B0_01CA6AE5.1254C1C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ed
Pse CW ur 569 kk
mal g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mal=20 hamilton
To: rsgb
Sent: Saturday, November 21,= 2009 7:34=20 PM
Subject: LF: ru6la

Nw 579 audible big signal. Tnx for= earlier=20 qso
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------=_NextPart_000_00B0_01CA6AE5.1254C1C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me05.mx.aol.com (rly-me05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.39]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME054-9ba4b0d51c51dd; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:48:30 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME056-9ba4b0d51c51dd; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:48:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDK5S-0004Am-11 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:47:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDK5R-0004Ad-Jd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:47:21 +0000 Received: from smtp817.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.17]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDK5Q-0002Ck-VV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:47:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 18637 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2009 15:47:15 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=ENPNam0+F8djAJslCAZQgIWMoAhuOTTq5TeqzpW6/9Jp+cbD1G5quSDQhvDGGug/clKZ7Ivkk5gNPue8ShT7lKsoaZx5fXaFjMDYtuAN92w+YRMeIOAD1igmNhZfQ/6eOuPBlcc9I5fvzzACGFTT2kDRh1C7U/0lzwUUeyEATk4= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@81.131.34.230 with login) by smtp817.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 2009 15:47:14 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: KHdpK2OswBBXlm4uxknbEiS4uYdJoGknHN90u4K8__lTafnafZg- X-YMail-OSG: OGMbnM4VM1kE7ANngIoTy2TMxizsytMxVCQHNpZ5lDfaE8DqOt3DJpbg8PK2OWLQmGqpSIGRUmvE0_c5C5RYLxJqm5F.Eeryzi3FQL9j1.IuOZof802RYiumbKGNG.LWfxIXU37kV5Z33suRJtVyAZxAlv0Wvh1fLv7nIo9iMqjSX5npfsVcRTJVtgz88FKg1OyJj1c9dbsZh03F3JpIXE_qwyAsjLEJSR_9gUJb3seuVgmzreuyVzJNQXtKNOG2qeoIMdu8vZK.xOTtBJHicx92pkN48TJ8zRfBzkEyDS2yvBklnMnI4Wbw7cZOcdu1URdUZnA5RlCf4m.yJlBalLCo1g-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <001901ca6de6$a34b30c0$0900a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:45:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: instability on MosFet amps Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Wolf this may not be the case with the properly tuned Class-E stage which has relatively low distortion. It does not output a square-wave as some think. See The QST article by Nat Sokal. Bear in mind filters complicate things further since they can transform mis-matches and only really work if resistively terminated. Even more reason to get your antenna right first. Loaded diplexor filters are a little more forgiving if you have harmonic problems but should not be necessary on Class-E a simple low-pass half-wave filter works well but use air cored coils, not toroids. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wolf Ostwald" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 3:25 PM Subject: LF: instability on MosFet amps > Hello group ! > > I found that almost all amp configurations generate harmonics. In case of a > homebrewed HF amp, with a push -pull design, I had to build hi-pass filters > with a resistive termination, so called split filters, for each band. > Without dissipating the harmonic energy the stage will have to cope with > excess voltages and thus bury the MosFets . > > My last amp stage for the DI2BJ-beacon is followed by a hi-pass that opens > at 750 kcs . This way the first harmonic and all the higher ones go into > thermal dissipation. > > A T-type adjustable low-pass is used to match and reduce harmonics further. > > Have fun de wolf df2py > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de05.mx.aol.com (rly-de05.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.141]) by air-de07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE071-4d54afacbb92ff; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:36:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE052-4d54afacbb92ff; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:35:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8EHK-0002eO-8F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:34:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8EHJ-0002eF-Cb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:34:33 +0000 Received: from elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.67]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8EGa-0006AT-Bo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:33:49 +0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=FSZMa2jBJyg5xbZkztR8P3OacaC0Jr4c2b8AU81OYrWwG/prDRscV/K5CxJ3lIUK; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.63] (helo=wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1N8EH7-00040m-U4; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:34:21 -0500 Received: from 63.229.66.189 by webmail.c.earthlink.net with HTTP; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:34:21 -0500 Message-ID: <28591998.1257950061757.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:34:21 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Trask To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: b77fdb70683249914713efb067f9a722239a348a220c26099da815785916a9b7b5cc2c7cf0b6548b2601a10902912494350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.63 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Ferrite characteristics Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 > > Does anyone know of a method of measuring the characteristics > (permeability) of ferrite cores? I have a box of these most > without any identification although I do have T200, 68-2T and > T68-2s whose characteristics are known. > > It occurs to me that you can make a tuned circuit and measure > resonance with a GDO when a ferrite core is inserted into the > inductance. A graph could be made of the different resonances > with different cores, to extrapolate the unknowns. > > However I think that ferrite bulk might be a problem. For example > I guess the red T cores use the same material but would there be > a difference between the T200 and the T68? > Since some are coloured, you can reasonably assume that they are powdered iron rather than ferrite as the ferrite manufacturers, particularly Fair-Rite and Ferronics, normally don't colour code their products, though Ferroxcube does. These two Micrometals URLs should help: http://www.micrometals.com/materials_index.html http://www.micrometals.com/materials_index.html Unfortunately, the tables provided by Ferroxcube do not provide the colour coding information, so you'll need to go through the individual datasheets: http://www.ferroxcube.com/prod/assets/sfmatgra_frnt.pdf The recent reply by Marco provided a reasonable approach to sorting out the permeability: > > just my 2 Eurocents... wound a few (5 to 20) turns, measure > L and take physical dimensions of the toroid, use G4FGQ's > toroid.exe, and then play with the parameters in the program > to find wich permeability gives the L you measured. The > program is pretty accurate, Reg did a nice job. > Chris ,----------------------. High Performance Mixers and / What's all this \ Amplifiers for RF Communications / extinct stuff, anyhow? / \ _______,--------------' Chris Trask / N7ZWY _ |/ Principal Engineer oo\ Sonoran Radio Research (__)\ _ P.O. Box 25240 \ \ .' `. Tempe, Arizona 85285-5240 \ \ / \ \ '" \ IEEE Senior Member #40274515 . ( ) \ '-| )__| :. \ Email: christrask@earthlink.net | | | | \ '. http://www.home.earthlink.net/~christrask c__; c__; '-..'>.__ Graphics by Loek Frederiks From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me04.mx.aol.com (rly-me04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.38]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME034-9b14b05859911a; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:51:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME045-9b14b05859911a; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:51:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBB9G-0001j8-B0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:50:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBB9F-0001iz-Uf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:50:25 +0000 Received: from mailout08.t-online.de ([194.25.134.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBB9F-00016F-CW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:50:25 +0000 Received: from fwd06.aul.t-online.de by mailout08.t-online.de with smtp id 1NBB9C-00053i-01; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:50:22 +0100 Received: from e7010 (V8Ab8TZOghMYQ7CNDWOR7bMDhoJW4JdC2g5rA2drCjB9wS0uXOPeheGrLuqzjy9wBP@[84.147.241.223]) by fwd06.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1NBB90-0DYLSa0; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:50:10 +0100 Message-ID: <004a01ca6940$bd5f18f0$6402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:50:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: V8Ab8TZOghMYQ7CNDWOR7bMDhoJW4JdC2g5rA2drCjB9wS0uXOPeheGrLuqzjy9wBP X-TOI-MSGID: 6a6ee167-2a84-45ed-93aa-7e8825a67953 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: DI2AG WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0047_01CA6949.1EE343A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01CA6949.1EE343A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear MF, the beacon DI2AG is now on air, 0.4W ERP QRG 505.090KHz. Stop= tomorrow morning. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01CA6949.1EE343A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear MF,
      &= nbsp; =20 the beacon DI2AG is now on air, 0.4W ERP QRG 505.090KHz. Stop tomorrow= =20 morning.
73   Walter   DI2= AG /=20 DJ2LF
 
------=_NextPart_000_0047_01CA6949.1EE343A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da03.mx.aol.com (rly-da03.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.77]) by air-da08.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDA084-a5d4b12d49f1fc; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:08:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA035-a5d4b12d49f1fc; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:08:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEq2u-0003cC-FS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:07:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEq2u-0003c3-1B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:07:00 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEq2s-0004RH-VM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:07:00 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D2E47B804B for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:06:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA5F31E702 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:06:48 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id 00BAF18056; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:06:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from 61.109-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (61.109-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [87.64.109.61]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:06:47 +0100 Message-ID: <20091129210647.u9ui1m1o4ws0804k@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:06:47 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <010c01ca7116$59615290$0317aac0@desktop> <843259.12319.qm@web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <9afca2640911291111v14a515dfy706294277775b7fa@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9afca2640911291111v14a515dfy706294277775b7fa@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 87.64.109.61 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_50_75=0.591 Subject: Re: LF: RTTY test transmission on 501.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL, UPPERCASE_50_75 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I can copy now G4WGT and G0NBD in PSK31 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting Roger Lapthorn : > G3XIZ is a good signal calling G0NBD on 501.6kHz RTTY. Not yet heard M0F= MT. > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > > 2009/11/29 M0FMT > > Jim FYI > > G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEACO > <091129 18:35:55 Start Logging> > N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C > OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS > G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEACO > N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C > OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS > G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEACO > N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C > OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS > G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEACO > N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C > OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS > AIG7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEAC= O > N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C > OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS > G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEACO > N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C > OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS > G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEACO > N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C > OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS > G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEACO > N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C > OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS > > 73 petefmt > > --- On Sun, 29/11/09, James Cowburn =20 > > wrote: > > From: James Cowburn =20 > > > Subject: LF: RTTY test transmission on 501.5 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 17:06 > > > Dear LF > > I am running a test RTTY transmission on 501.5 (I hope!!) It =20 > transmits for abt 1 min every 10 mins. > > I=E2=80=99d be grateful for any reports. I will shut it down at 20.00z= or =20 > before if necessary > > 73s > > Jim G7NKS > > > > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB053-ad84aed63063a0; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 05:29:36 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB076-ad84aed63063a0; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 05:29:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N4Xfg-0003Nk-Ov for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 10:28:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N4Xfg-0003Nb-Ci for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 10:28:28 +0000 Received: from [93.17.128.12] (helo=smtp22.services.sfr.fr) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N4Xdu-00037H-VZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 10:26:39 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2213.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D3CCE7000094 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 2009 11:27:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (unknown [77.196.43.225]) by msfrf2213.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 7EA39700008E for ; Sun, 1 Nov 2009 11:27:45 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091101102745518.7EA39700008E@msfrf2213.sfr.fr Message-ID: <000801ca5add$f44909a0$0201a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 11:27:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! 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hi oh1tn and LF
Good morning...what is  possible= my control=20
and also possible qso
Claude F8boj JN16WA
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01CA5AE6.5327DDE0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC094-b3a4b02d64d4c; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:00:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC086-b3a4b02d64d4c; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:58:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NARNP-0004Cv-6Q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:57:59 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NARNO-0004Cl-Hv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:57:58 +0000 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net ([165.212.64.32]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NARNM-0001f3-QZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:57:58 +0000 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net (co02-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout02.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D42E13449F for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:57:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps01.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.136] by cmsout02.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.58V) with ESMTP id XID042Nkqq6x0169X02; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:57:49 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.136 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps01.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID042Nkqq6x0169X02 Received: from [192.168.1.3] [151.47.214.229] by cmsapps01.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.53P) with ESMTPA id 557Nkqq6t2672M36; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:57:45 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.214.229 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.1.3] Message-ID: <4B02D606.6020908@usa.net> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:57:42 +0100 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <626551.33117.qm@web63607.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <002e01ca66fa$9edc5f20$0900a8c0@lark> <4B02D40E.20804@usa.net> In-Reply-To: <4B02D40E.20804@usa.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Z-USANET-MsgId: XID557Nkqq6U2672X36 X-Spam-Score: 2.4 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FUZZY_OCR=0.000,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08=2.435,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_HTML_ONLY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: LEONIDS and propagation Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------060501060703060607000804" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_04, HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TITLE_EMPTY,MIME_HTML_ONLY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --------------060501060703060607000804 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alberto di Bene wrote: 
   are you sure about that frequency ? I read on another group that
the Graves radar operates on 143.050 MHz
Hmmm, it looks like I as correct...



73  Alberto  I2PHD

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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am with Mal. =A0WSPR has no place on the UK 501 / 504 Kc/s Amateur Commu= nication Band. The Norwegian Licence has got it right - CW only! =A0 73 petefmt=A0 --- On Sat, 21/11/09, Andy - KU4XR wrote: From: Andy - KU4XR Subject: Re: LF: WSPR BEACONS To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Saturday, 21 November, 2009, 0:01 --- On Fri, 11/20/09, mal hamilton wrote: =A0 =A0 ******=A0 =A0 snippet=A0 =A0 ****** > a cw QSO operator in real time can qsy to take evasive=20 > action and avoid qrm to others on adjacent frequencies. > G3KEV =A0 =A0 ***** end snippet=A0 =A0 ****** By Jove !! is it possible that he finally " GOT IT " ??? heavens to wonders !! Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN. LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 185.29866 KHz ( QRSS-60 ) Coordinates:=A0 N:=A0 35* 43' 54" - W:=A0 84* 3' 16" http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr --- On Fri, 11/20/09, mal hamilton wrote: > From: mal hamilton > Subject: LF: WSPR BEACONS > To: "rsgb" > Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 2:58 PM >=20 >=20 >=A0=20 >=A0=20 >=20 >=20 >=A0=20 > These unattended Beacons > are often a source of QRM=20 > for the CW=A0QSO operator, whereas a cw QSO operator in > real time can qsy to=20 > take evasive action and avoid qrm to others on adjacent=20 > frequencies. > G3KEV > =A0=20 >=20 =20 --0-283788121-1258800863=:33618 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am with Mal.  WSPR has no place= on the UK 501 / 504 Kc/s Amateur Communication Band. The= Norwegian Licence has got it right - CW only!
 
73 petefmt 

--- On Sat, 21/11/09, Andy -= KU4XR <ku4xr@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Andy - KU4XR <ku4xr@yahoo.com>
= Subject: Re: LF: WSPR BEACONS
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date:= Saturday, 21 November, 2009, 0:01

--- On Fri, 11/20/09, mal hamilton wrote:

&n= bsp;   ******    snippet    ******

> a= cw QSO operator in real time can qsy to take evasive
> action and= avoid qrm to others on adjacent frequencies.
> G3KEV

 =   ***** end snippet    ******

By Jove !! is it poss= ible that he finally " GOT IT " ???
heavens to wonders !!

Andy= - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 185.29866= KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84*= 3' 16"
htt= p://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


--- On Fri, 11/20/09, mal hami= lton <g3kevmal@talktalk= .net> wrote:

> From: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
> Subje= ct: LF: WSPR BEACONS
> To: "rsgb" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
&g= t; Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 2:58 PM
>
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=20 --0-283788121-1258800863=:33618-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC102-b3b4af9b13ded; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:30:48 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC087-b3b4af9b13ded; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:30:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7vT6-0008FI-1d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:29:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7vT5-0008F9-Kx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:29:27 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s8.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.19]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7vSJ-0000DZ-3U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:28:39 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W10 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s8.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:29:19 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [216.152.181.103] From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China To: Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:29:19 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20091110192309.4v8agotbs0k0gocs@webmail6.kuleuven.be> References: <001101ca621e$dcdc3380$96949a80$@princeton.edu> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2009 18:29:19.0857 (UTC) FILETIME=[B7B72E10:01CA6233] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_HEADER_CTYPE_ONLY=0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_305766e2-44ac-4469-988e-5a8a567b9748_" Subject: LF: 500 to Eu X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_HEADER_CTYPE_ONLY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_305766e2-44ac-4469-988e-5a8a567b9748_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rik - Opening time to Eu from here in very snowy AK are at your dusk at th= e moment - so will be listening/looking again tonight. Sadly pretty cold= and deep White stuff outside so little work can be done :-( =20 Laurence Wasilla/Palmer Alaska WE2XPQ =20 KL1X BP51IP =20 > Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:23:09 +0100 > From: Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; jwfisher@alumni.princeton.edu > CC: g3xiz@yahoo.co.uk; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: 500 kHz WSPR de VE1JF >=20 > Jim, >=20 > I noticed you on WSPRnet yesterday, congrats for copying SM6BHZ. > Last night I got only 2 decodes from AA1A. > But SM6BHZ is another league, more power and a far better location. > So far my 200mW ERP WSPR signal has been copied by AA1A (FN42), K1JT=20 > (FN20) and VE1VDM (FN85). With 2 exceptions all decodes were between=20 > 22:00 and 22:30 UTC. > If WX stays dry I will be WSPR-ing tonight, any chance to take an=20 > early start ? >=20 > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >=20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=3Drestaurants&form=3DMFESRP&publ=3DWLHMTAG&cr= ea=3DTEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1=3D --_305766e2-44ac-4469-988e-5a8a567b9748_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rik - Opening time to Eu from here in very snowy AK are at your dusk= at the moment - so will be listening/looking again tonight. Sadly pr= etty cold and deep White stuff outside so little work can be done :-(
 
Laurence
Wasilla/Palmer Alaska WE2XPQ  
KL1X BP51IP
 
> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:23:09 +0100
>= ; From: Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o= rg; jwfisher@alumni.princeton.edu
> CC: g3xiz@yahoo.co.uk; rsgb_lf_g= roup@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: 500 kHz WSPR de VE1JF
>=
> Jim,
>
> I noticed you on WSPRnet yesterday, congra= ts for copying SM6BHZ.
> Last night I got only 2 decodes from AA1A.<= BR>> But SM6BHZ is another league, more power and a far better location= .
> So far my 200mW ERP WSPR signal has been copied by AA1A (FN42),= K1JT
> (FN20) and VE1VDM (FN85). With 2 exceptions all decodes wer= e between
> 22:00 and 22:30 UTC.
> If WX stays dry I will be= WSPR-ing tonight, any chance to take an
> early start ?
> > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T
>

Bi= ng brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now= . =3D --_305766e2-44ac-4469-988e-5a8a567b9748_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb06.mx.aol.com (rly-mb06.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.164]) by air-mb08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB083-d114aff216d119; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:30:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB065-d114aff216d119; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:30:22 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9QBO-00018v-Cn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:29:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9QBN-00018m-W2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:29:22 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9QBM-0006Jc-9L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Also audible here, actually on 507.77kHz Unfortunately the 507.98kHz carrier is S9+ here and makes it difficult to copy VX9MRC. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting mal hamilton : > VX9MRC active since 1950 utc beacon on 507.5 CW > De g3kev > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD022-b624af1f7101e3; 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Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:49:11 +0000 From: Chris Trayner To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:49:10 +0000 Thread-Topic: LF: "Poisson, Shannon, and the Radio Amateur" - copyright Thread-Index: AcpdmKTQJKjFiRW3TQ6EQVqCbyP7aw== Message-ID: <690BC337-348D-4D56-B898-E5596D30CCB3@leeds.ac.uk> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US, en-GB Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US, en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: "Poisson, Shannon, and the Radio Amateur" - copyright Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear Andy and others, On 2009 Nov 4, at 18:49, Andy Talbot wrote: > As Warren mentioned there are probably still copyright issues =20 > (after 50 years ??) Quite possibly, yes. Bear in mind that - If the IEEE (ex IRE) sued you, would we be talking about US law, =20 English law, International law or some (unholy?) mixture? [Remind me to buy shares in lawyers tomorrow ...] - The copyright on the original paper may have expired (not sure). But =20 when the IEEE scanned it they produced an artefact (the scan) which =20 counts as a work of art for legal purposes. They own copyright on =20 that. If you scanned a paper copy yourself, it might be legal to put =20 it up, but you'd want to check first with someone who r-e-a-l-l-y =20 knows the law! Copyright law is often described as a minefield, thought quagmire =20 might be a better term - watered by the tears of those who have tried =20 to do reasonable things under it. In fairness to the lawmakers, it =20 would be extremely hard to write such law which protects both the =20 creators and the users of such works. Just thought I'd bring a little sushine into your life ... 73, Chris G4OKW From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD092-b624b0063ff247; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:27:01 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD024-b624b0063ff247; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:26:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9lfE-0001Dq-Pb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:25:36 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9lfE-0001Dh-4L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:25:36 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9lfC-0001Io-Eg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:25:36 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3544.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id F39741C00082 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:25:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3544.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DFB0F1C00083 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:25:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.53.205]) by mwinf3544.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 889DC1C00082 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:25:28 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091115202528559.889DC1C00082@mwinf3544.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <1043CB7D895D4161B1C87CDD140332A2@AGB> <0CADF4DD71FD43A2A8384463754F6344@AGB> <4B005411.4010506@sighthound.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4B005411.4010506@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:25:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Running mW wspr Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 John, Ive have just configured the urv35 and thats showing 550 mW into the antenna tuner .... only thing I can do is connect the ma1723 directly to the ae feed , via the 10 dB x 1 step atten ..I will have to leave the power head in cct as nothing will be showing on anything except the rx .... see If I can set 50 mW .. thats -10 dB down on the carrier now urv measures past uW so thats not a problem hihi ..ive a 20 db inline100watt atten that may be a better option G ... two tick's or should that be clicks ... -------------------------------------------------- From: "John P-G" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 7:18 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Running mW wspr > > > > Graham wrote: > >> >> Crazy system ..... spot just in from John ! > > > I thought your mW signal was meant to be a challenge, but of course > Roger's already discovered that WSPR will decode signals that you can't > hear, and are often so weak on a waterfall that QRSS3 would be a struggle > (despite what someone here repeatedly fails to comprehend) > > Can you go any lower? > > John > GM4SLV > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (rly-dd05.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.152]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD072-b7b4b044e77154; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:44:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD055-b7b4b044e77154; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:43:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAqQX-0004Sz-AD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:42:53 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAqQW-0004Sq-M3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:42:52 +0000 Received: from smtp6.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.190]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAqQV-00020V-VW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:42:52 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3603.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 59E2F7000081 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:42:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3603.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4D77D7000085 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:42:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.63.163]) by mwinf3603.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 105177000081 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:42:46 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091118194246669.105177000081@mwinf3603.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <16A5877B6D04466BAC08011C5ED714A0@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <590EA4755AB54809BC2887F55D65D99A@AGB> <9afca2640911181055y33bb49e4q7707d46e339826b0@mail.gmail.com> <1519387EC57944BE82527527C2D6184D@AGB> <7B9E530A13DE479BA05DFA579C50586F@JimPC> In-Reply-To: <7B9E530A13DE479BA05DFA579C50586F@JimPC> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:42:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: T61AA 0.503929 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim . Yes, looks like he has dropped off the list ... Did have a exchange of emails a while ago, as he was looking to set up on 500 at Kandahar .. may be not yet then .. G ,, -------------------------------------------------- From: "James Moritz" Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 7:21 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: T61AA 0.503929 > > Dear Graham, LF Group, > > T61AA is bona fide and QRV on HF WSPR mode, apparently on 40m at the > moment - I reckon S51CN has not updated his frequency information > correctly. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graham" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 7:10 PM > Subject: Re: LF: T61AA 0.503929 > > > To quote ' This is not a drill .. This is the real thing '.. > > Is your RX on ? > > G ... > > T61AA Ross B > > Shasdarak Kabul, > > Afghanistan > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (rly-mg07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.113]) by air-mg04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG042-a224b09954d338; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:47:50 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG074-a224b09954d338; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:47:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCIOH-0005OX-Bz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:46:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCIOG-0005OO-Sw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:46:32 +0000 Received: from mail-ew0-f223.google.com ([209.85.219.223]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCIOG-0005ne-4U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:46:32 +0000 Received: by ewy23 with SMTP id 23so714880ewy.4 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:46:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=g3SudRCnQTDyN8MgqTCt+pE052peCfZTVlqMhVWLr4c=; b=fb35MJ8flkmp4iHszza4A1qZB9yoK2d0gTlxGAuoFaGNpPJW1O4Dii8+N9n/7LWSqz HRjof1tWKhZ4u0blcRn2IbywGhZ9wecvD586Oy447HF65yz4XwCkX7b0BW3T4uuO2/D4 UFLa+v2L3NYXG6pdHMOV1KsOE3e0d/I0JUPBM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=mspF+sWZ2NrBCvoc+rx1EHvln0wpYjkowUrNFz76ZxiFYoX21WPPcmwhQXMY08LZU+ v2PSYpczCdPsJf1qWJW2g1EBxL3GZccytZCqJFgOO/uJk9gvTgKgx2COcdzZ9eUguP6d WomFUz6cxmtu2rfT9dY8Smfr0/Q/Fb8GIyUkc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.15.14 with SMTP id i14mr3881131eba.50.1258919186463; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:46:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <00bb01ca6ba7$dd53d650$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> References: <00ad01ca6ba5$82fec130$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <00bb01ca6ba7$dd53d650$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:46:26 +0100 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Anton_B=E4rtschi?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: G3KEV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174bdcb6e8faea0478faf64a X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m277.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0015174bdcb6e8faea0478faf64a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tnx Mal. The reason for the weaker signal is simple: I moved to another QT= H five years ago. Here I have not the possibilities I had before. No Helix Vertical with a big top hat, just a modest L-Antenna, 12m high with a tota= l wire lenght of about 50m. Already on 160m it is not a "big gun", hi. 73 de Toni 2009/11/22 mal hamilton > You are OOO copy now at 1912 z > mal/g3kev > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* mal hamilton > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Sent:* Sunday, November 22, 2009 6:56 PM > *Subject:* LF: Re: G3KEV > > Tony > Tnx ur call but the qsb was severe. We have worked before on cw so do no= t > understand why u are so weak at present. > > de mal/g3kev > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Anton B=E4rtschi > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Sent:* Sunday, November 22, 2009 5:13 PM > *Subject:* LF: G3KEV > > You are "O" here, dear Mal, ufb. Sorry we couldn't make it. Probably my > antenna is to small. It seems to me, that my limit is around 800-900km= on > Longwave. Power is 1kW and I can't get much higher. But one day, we may= get > the permission for 500kHz and there it should be much easier, even in no= rmal > CW. > 73 de Toni, HB9ASB > > --0015174bdcb6e8faea0478faf64a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tnx Mal. The reason for the weaker signal is simple: I moved to another QT= H five years ago. Here I have not the possibilities I had before. No Helix= Vertical with a big top hat, just a modest L-Antenna, 12m high with a tot= al wire lenght of about 50m. Already on 160m it is not a "big gun&quo= t;, hi.
73 de Toni

2009/11/22 mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktal= k.net>
You are OOO copy now at 1912 z
mal/g3kev
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----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mal=20 hamilton
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009= 6:56=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: G3KEV

Tony
Tnx ur call but the qsb was severe.= We have=20 worked before on cw so do not understand why u are so weak at=20 present.
=A0
de mal/g3kev
=A0
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Anton B=E4rtschi=20
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 20= 09 5:13=20 PM
Subject: LF: G3KEV

You are "O" here, dear Mal, ufb. Sorry we cou= ldn't make it.=20 Probably my antenna is to small. It seems to me, that my limit is arou= nd=20 800-900km on Longwave. Power is 1kW and I can't get much higher.= But one=20 day, we may get the permission for 500kHz and there it should be much= =20 easier, even in normal CW.
73 de Toni, HB9ASB

--0015174bdcb6e8faea0478faf64a-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df11.mx.aol.com (rly-df11.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.24]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF051-58a4b0899d536c; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:54:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF113-58a4b0899d536c; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:54:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NC1de-0006FT-N4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:53:18 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NC1de-0006FK-6c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:53:18 +0000 Received: from mailout1.go2.pl ([193.17.41.11]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NC1db-0004TH-Pj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:53:18 +0000 Received: from mailout1.go2.pl (unknown [10.0.0.103]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07DC45D528C for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:53:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from o2.pl (unknown [10.0.0.38]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:53:14 +0100 (CET) From: bxi@go2.pl To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <001f01ca6b15$886a3ef0$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> References: <001f01ca6b15$886a3ef0$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <269d4aca.70953514.4b089989.d98cb@go2.pl Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:53:13 +0100 X-Originator: 89.76.56.60 X-Spam-Score: 2.3 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,INVALID_MSGID=1.71,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,SUBJECT_EXCESS_QP=0 Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_LF:_F8boj__/__sq2kds?= Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="==o2.pl-WebMail-c954353.730cd4fd.d98dd==" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=INVALID_MSGID,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --==o2.pl-WebMail-c954353.730cd4fd.d98dd== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Claude, LF Many thanks for first Poland/France long wave QSO. Vy 73! 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Radiocommunication Services and Stations 3. It is a term of a radio licence that the holder of the licence may (a) install, operate or possess radio apparatus to perform any of the following services, as authorized by the radio licence, namely, (i) aeronautical service, (ii) amateur radio service, (iii) public information service, (iv) developmental service, (v) fixed service, (vi) intersatellite service, (vii) land mobile service, (viii) maritime service, and (ix) radiodetermination service; and (b) install, operate or possess radio apparatus at a fixed station, mobile station or space station as authorized by the radio licence. Restriction Relating to Holders of Radio Licences 4. It is a term of a radio licence that the holder of the radio licence shall restrict the activities of the station to those radiocommunication services referred to in paragraph 3(a) that are specified in the licence. Jordan wrote: > Definitely a breach of regulations and procedures....VE-"X" stations > are not permitted 2-way contact with the Amateur service, nor any > other service. Operation is strictly limited to Beacon operation only. > > 73...Jordan VE6ZT > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 7:17 AM > Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6 > > >> The first illegal ON-VX QSO. >> >> >> >> Rik Strobbe wrote: >>> Gary, All, >>> >>> yesterday I could copy VX9MRC in QRSS3 with a surprising strong >>> signal as early as 18 UTC, when I launched Argo. >>> Throughout the evening the signal was strong and with little QSB >>> from 19-22UTC, after that the signal became weaker with much more QSB. >>> Probably because I had a sked with Joe at 22:40 UTC ;-) . >>> But despite all we managed to complete the QSO with both way M >>> report (would have been a solid O earlier the evening). >>> A first ON-VE QSO on 500kHz and with +/- 4075km a new DX record for me >>> Joe transmitted on 507.770 and I on 501.190. >>> Between 19 and 22 UTC the signal was audible most of the time and >>> would have been CW copy if it were not squeezed between the NDB "Z" >>> carrier at 507.980 (S9+ here) the SM6BHZ CW/SSB test transmissions >>> (up to S9) and a local birdie on 507.600. >>> >>> For the QSO I was running 300W into my 11m high / 25m long lazy-L >>> antenna, estimated ERP about 1.5 Watt (at best, if the greenery does >>> not absorb too much) >>> >>> The night from Sunday - Monday I left Argo running, VX9MRC produced >>> a good signal all through the night and faded out at 07UTC. This >>> would mean that there is a potential transatlantic path on 500kHz >>> for 13h a day !!! >>> >>> 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >>> >>> At 17:05 16/11/2009, you wrote: >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> Good signals from both stations last night. >>>> >>>> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo. >>> >>> >>> >> > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (rly-dc09.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.38]) by air-dc09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC093-b424b0194c036b; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:07:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC096-b424b0194c036b; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:07:14 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA5vm-00076g-Uy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:04:02 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA5vj-00076H-86 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:04:00 +0000 Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA5ve-00015R-Dm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:03:55 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.4]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091116175843.WQVE27507.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:58:43 +0000 Received: from [81.109.247.175] (helo=jimdesk) by know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA5qd-00061i-1N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:58:43 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:58:40 -0000 Message-ID: <013601ca66e6$6f01a350$0517aac0@jimdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: Acpm5m3SHzpox8kKQe2PU52HmguBJQ== X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=qq8CF84x6uRvSzY4yGcA:9 a=-zPIV9XzygvTNtZIyGSIEQr6MWwA:4 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=U6kXwFPHs4vJhkgam_sA:9 a=o0vLClQI4Y3z3jG9vZ8A:7 a=hgyX0R0Zd-BADXDpu5VL7W60Pu0A:4 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: thats the way to do it! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0137_01CA66E6.6F01A350" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_FONT_BIG, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0137_01CA66E6.6F01A350 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear LF At a stroke, side bands gone, 25watts found, sigs increased! I'd like to say I planned it that way but sister Serendipity was on my side! I just moved the impedance matching transformer from in the shack to the base of the coil and re-adjusted the taps on both. IC735 now happily firing 50watts out as opposed to 25 watts and it seems that the dreaded side bands are gone. Let's see if it stays that way. With best regards Jim G7NKS Dr. James Cowburn ------=_NextPart_000_0137_01CA66E6.6F01A350 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear LF

 

At a stroke, side bands gone, 25watts= found, sigs increased!  I’d like to say I planned it that way but sister Serendipi= ty was on my side!

 

I just moved the impedance matching tra= nsformer from in the shack to the base of the coil and re-adjusted the taps on both.  =  IC735 now happily firing 50watts out as opposed to 25 watts and it seems that th= e dreaded side bands are gone.  Let’s see if it stays that way.<= /o:p>

 

 

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim= G7NKS

 

 

Dr. James Cowburn

 

------=_NextPart_000_0137_01CA66E6.6F01A350-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md04.mx.aol.com (rly-md04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.142]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD084-8ff4b0282301e7; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 06:00:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD047-8ff4b0282301e7; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 06:00:01 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NALmF-0002BR-NN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:59:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NALmF-0002BI-5U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:59:15 +0000 Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com ([205.188.105.144]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NALmE-0006o2-0C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:59:15 +0000 Received: from imo-da04.mx.aol.com (imo-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.202]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nAHAx0A2026332 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:59:00 -0500 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-da04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id l.ce9.659f5cbe (65098) for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:58:55 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:59:08 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: F4DTL@aol.com X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: 136kHz WSPR tests Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1258455548" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1258455548 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 No problem Roger, i can so start my WSPR beacon on 136 kHz at the same =20 time. =20 =20 F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 17/11/2009 11:44:20 Paris, Madrid, =20 rogerlapthorn@gmail.com a =E9crit : Dear all, Very encouraged by my results at 500kHz, I'd like to try some "low ERP"= =20 WSPR tests on 136kHz using the same small antenna and transverter (slight= ly=20 modified). Ideally I'd need stations like M0BMU, M0FMT, G7NKS and others= =20 not too far away from JO02dg to TX and to listen out for me, as these=20 stations get a good signal from me on 500kHz.=20 Please would you let me know if you'd be able to listen and upload 136kHz= =20 WSPR spots sometime in the next week or so? As yet I am not quite ready= to=20 start, but I'll let you know when I am. BTW, congratulations to the bigger stations on 500kHz achieving=20 transatlantic QSOs. 73s Roger G3XBM -------------------------------1258455548 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= FONT id=3Drole_document color=3D#000000 size=3D2 face=3DArial>
No problem Roger, i can so start my WSPR beacon on 136 kHz at the sam= e=20 time.
 
F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP
Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 17/11/2009 11:44:20 Paris, Madrid,=20 rogerlapthorn@gmail.com a =E9crit :
D= ear=20 all,

Very encouraged by my results at 500kHz, I'd like to try som= e "low=20 ERP" WSPR tests on 136kHz using the same small antenna and transverter= =20 (slightly modified).  Ideally I'd need stations like M0BMU, M0FMT,= G7NKS=20 and others not too far away from JO02dg to TX and to listen out for me,= as=20 these stations get a good signal from me on 500kHz.

Please wo= uld=20 you let me know if you'd be able to listen and upload 136kHz WSPR spots= =20 sometime in the next week or so? As yet I am not quite ready to star= t, but=20 I'll let you know when I am.

BTW, congratulations to the bigger= =20 stations on 500kHz achieving transatlantic QSOs.

73s
Roger G3X= BM
 
 
 -------------------------------1258455548-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (rly-mf08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.178]) by air-mf07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF074-9764b06eafa42; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:16:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF084-9764b06eafa42; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:16:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBYwq-0000rk-UE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:15:12 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBYwq-0000rb-Eo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:15:12 +0000 Received: from mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.47]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBYwp-0003zQ-KO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:15:12 +0000 Received: from aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091120191005.MSLP17029.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:10:05 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.33] (really [82.22.242.219]) by aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20091120191004.NJCT2093.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.2.33]> for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:10:04 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:09:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4B06E983.17403.9CA1196@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=9YlaCzn6_68A:10 a=MVCgQRZCOfM_H2McCekA:9 a=XnNn1aRmoxARAjt3JVwemSyS2D8A:4 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Tests concluded Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 I have finished testing on 136kHz for tonight. Mike, G3XDV ========== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb01.mx.aol.com (rly-mb01.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.154]) by air-mb08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB081-ce94afddc0d2f1; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:22:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB015-ce94afddc0d2f1; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:22:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N94WA-0005yc-48 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:21:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N94W9-0005yT-MY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:21:21 +0000 Received: from mx71.mail.ru ([94.100.176.85]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N94W8-0001QQ-NB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:21:21 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=12483 helo=EFREMOV) by mx71.mail.ru with asmtp id 1N94W2-000FtL-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 01:21:14 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <006401ca64af$954964f0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: References: <004001ca646a$c6ec0cf0$3ab27cbc@niurhaxf0xcqlj> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:20:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: sp2kds Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005D_01CA64AF.80AAC4D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk 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[212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:03:08 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4B07ABA4.4060102@online.fr> References: <4B07ABA4.4060102@online.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Nov 2009 10:03:08.0913 (UTC) FILETIME=[D3C42610:01CA6A91] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_3425993b-530e-4221-9881-484a98ad633f_" Subject: LF: T/A [137 kHz] good conditions ! X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --_3425993b-530e-4221-9881-484a98ad633f_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_082c3af3-883d-4908-a88e-f120016ef3e4_" --_082c3af3-883d-4908-a88e-f120016ef3e4_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Jean-Pierre, LF! SRI, I didn´t listen to a radio last night, but I was looking at my monitor this morning: I saw "Y" (QRSS and than DFCW) and strong LX effect between 05:30 - 05:45UT. I didn´t see XKO. 73! Lubos, OK2BVG ****************************** > Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:58:12 +0100 > From: jpm.f1afj@online.fr > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: LF T/A [137 kHz] good conditions ! > > Hello LF, > > Good conditions last night on 137 Khz ! > Yesterday evening : > "Y" (RA3YO) dfcw60 > "KDS" (????) qrss120 > "XKO" (WD2XKO) qrss 30 > > This Morning : > XKO (WD2XKO) qrss60 > > Dex, pse look on my grabber , your sig are vy strong ! > Thank you to be returned on 137 Khz ! > > 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj > > _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: Který poèítaè je pro vás ten pravý? Dal¹í informace. http://windows.microsoft.com/shop --_082c3af3-883d-4908-a88e-f120016ef3e4_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Jean-Pierre, LF!
SRI, I didn´t listen to a radio last night, but I was looking at my monitor this morning:
I saw "Y" (QRSS and than DFCW) and strong LX effect between 05:30 - 05:45UT.
I didn´t see XKO.

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG

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> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:58:12 +0100
> From: jpm.f1afj@online.fr
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: LF T/A [137 kHz] good conditions !
>
> Hello LF,
>
> Good conditions last night on 137 Khz !
> Yesterday evening :
> "Y" (RA3YO) dfcw60
> "KDS" (????) qrss120
> "XKO" (WD2XKO) qrss 30
>
> This Morning :
> XKO (WD2XKO) qrss60
>
> Dex, pse look on my grabber , your sig are vy strong !
> Thank you to be returned on 137 Khz !
>
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
>

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00:30:34 +0000 Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com ([205.188.105.143]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N96XB-00025G-FY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:30:34 +0000 Received: from imo-da04.mx.aol.com (imo-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.202]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nAE0UKeX002849 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:30:20 -0500 Received: from G4gvw@aol.com by imo-da04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id l.c2f.5d6d9c78 (34979) for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:30:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.68] ([92.23.134.203]) by cia-da08.mx.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA084-88a34afdfa0e227; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:30:14 -0500 From: g4gvw To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <00df01ca6488$e9244a80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <00df01ca6488$e9244a80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:30:09 +0000 Message-Id: <1258158609.4671.18.camel@pat-compaq-evo> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.1 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: G4gvw@aol.com X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: PIRATES Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Mal, I have been extremely successful of late in not rising to your bait on various topics. This time I really must take umbrage at your rather sweeping statement about the Maritime Service vis-a-vis the 500khz allocation. The maritime Service has been almost 100% a "commercial" service and as such has had as its primary interest the maintenance of a viable communications service. As far as I am aware. no serious research has been done by that service into weak-signal and similar modes apart from that done by the various military interests. Effectively, as soon as alternative and arguably more efficient/cost effective alternatives became available these commercial interests naturally migrated to them. This is not the same as saying they had "exhausted all possibilities and concluded it is of no further use." Your statement is rather like saying that the coming of the motor car rendered the bicycle or the horse obsolete and of "no further use"! It's a funny thing but in my travels I see plenty of both in widespread use! Amateur radio for many of us encompasses a wide range of activities and your constant carping and promotion of your own rather biased interests gets on the nerves of quite a lot of us to the extent that some members no longer subscribe to the group. Perhaps you should consider the view that, as with the cyclists and horse riders there are modes of operation that lead to the promotion of health and happiness and a calm and healthy state of mind. On Fri, 2009-11-13 at 17:44 +0000, mal hamilton wrote: > Lots of pirates reported around the east african coast and Indian > ocean but now Radio pirates !!!! on 500. > How would one know a Pirate? their style of sending on cw or the way > they WSPR. > Beware of the WSPR merchants no ID just carriers switching on/off as > far as the casual radio amateur is concerned. Instead of a simple > approach worldwide to issue Radio Amateur licences for the > traditional CW mode on 500, appliance operator licences were issued > for Broadcast modes ie > CW beacons, Data beacons, and other transmissions, which must stop at > Country Borders and must not be reported by anyone hearing such > transmissions beyond these Borders. > In other words the whole 500 khz business is Chaotic, whereas the > other MF allocation 160 metres is orderly and sensibly regulated using > in the main CW and SSB. > It would appear the appropriate license authorities do not think the > Appliance Operator has much to contribute to the advancement or > research on 500. > The marine service has been using the band for the past 100 years and > has exhausted all possibilities and concluded it is of no further use, > with the advancement of Satellite communications technology. > 500 in EU seems to be a fun band for WSPR Beacons where no operator > participation is required just unattended machines belching out bits > of data and generating QRM to the few Radio amateurs trying to get by > on CW. > Let us have your opinion. > De G3KEV > > > > -- 73 es gd dx de pat g4gvw qth nr felixstowe uk (east coast, county of suffolk) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (rly-dg10.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.94]) by air-dg08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG083-5fc4b08289341; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:51:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG107-5fc4b08289341; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:51:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBu6K-0007Qx-6x for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:50:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBu6J-0007Qo-Sb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:50:23 +0000 Received: from smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com ([195.200.78.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBu6J-000128-Aj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:50:23 +0000 Received: (qmail 26682 invoked by uid 507); 21 Nov 2009 18:50:04 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO JR) (217.67.155.178) by smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 2009 18:50:04 +0100 Message-ID: <200911211850130243.1B5FEB19@smtp2.numeo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:50:13 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Tail end of XGV? 20dB over noise on 137 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 At 1745z. F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb12.mx.aol.com (rly-mb12.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.170]) by air-mb05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB052-d444afd1296288; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:02:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB128-d444afd1296288; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:02:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8r65-0001AA-M4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:01:33 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8r65-0001A1-3j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:01:33 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8r63-0002MT-Jl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:01:33 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.4] (rx1.twatt.home [192.168.1.4]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0BE53B4D8 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:01:30 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4AFD125A.3060402@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:01:30 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <2EB9AB3966984B91BB0C369B32CF12FC@AGB> <4AFCC936.9060800@telus.net> In-Reply-To: <4AFCC936.9060800@telus.net> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Scott Tilley wrote: > Hi Graham > > All Canadian 600m stations are operating under COMMERCIAL Developmental > Licenses and are not able to communicate with the Amateur Service. So VX9MRC shouldn't be having regular CW QSOs with EI0CF? Still confused.... John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de08.mx.aol.com (rly-de08.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.144]) by air-de01.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDE011-4f94b1293fb33b; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:32:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE088-4f94b1293fb33b; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:32:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NElkG-0001Zb-86 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:31:28 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NElkF-0001ZR-Mf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:31:27 +0000 Received: from n17.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.144]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NElkF-000384-A5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:31:27 +0000 Received: from [68.142.194.243] by n17.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2009 15:31:20 -0000 Received: from [68.142.201.246] by t1.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2009 15:31:20 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp407.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2009 15:31:20 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 465725.47750.bm@omp407.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 17276 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2009 15:31:20 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=P1uR4RfymXIWNLMDx1DgIKQ0WNWEiPGYjqYoD8/pvbC97kbRzFrVP+TzhZVE5fvTHAi3cb9w+jkmQkyYX9wy9/nPw9I3rps1WSziwUjKBRIhcPznX+oljpoAyDG1Qmd5pICtCuBPqHLitbUmB/2yCNF64caWNiai7X0SWAkNX+Q= ; Received: from host86-138-92-60.range86-138.btcentralplus.com (ken.h.wright@86.138.92.60 with login) by smtp129.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2009 07:31:20 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: 9Y6mUHuswBAgnrOsukIiNdFDf95uy_Dz34nY1hlg2liKgYD952sjbg-- X-YMail-OSG: lyrzOlQVM1nRyWjKrZHuD87wZoTfKoOxg_b6vKQL6w_Owll7gua9_r1m7_GiQEjJ1YesJKMLN5ftzYYTnBcNU67HcFas10MII_pNmqqJTJgmkJCp3vRGbAVQYXJvS5qfyMfF6JFw9Wg_kFgLCgLvRgIrVPJLtHCSQ17aWds7XrYl01utL7cNU4lm.gui5qx_UxBomC_X6XoQKJP23ZGT.zmljTFD1t0npKBmq.TRK7X4XJvnlf76IotW0SATE.8.O5KnHJL6T7SOMuL65hp6uz82HgRgA5gZk0u5r7rQNnWrvpYH3B5IMihk7RRxEw-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "Ken" To: References: <2746F3E144D3480AB85CD466920B1313@lindavideo> <003001ca70e7$24aaf3a0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <003c01ca70eb$0aa52120$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <4B126AF9.3050300@ntlworld.com> <005001ca70f9$f63904e0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <1259505915.4b1288fb018a7@imp.netikka.net> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:31:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv diode Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Paul. On my last mailing I got the BY255 current wrong. Ken M0KHW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul-Henrik" To: Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 2:45 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv diode BY255 should be a suitable building block rated 1300V PIV 3A. Use equalizing resistors in parallell with each diode, typical values used are 470...820kohm. Only controlled avalanche diodes can be series connected safely without a reverse voltage equalizing network. Make sure you implement a healthy safety marigin, ie. don't use just as many diodes needed to acheive the needed voltage rating. Using 3 amp diodes when 1 amp is called for is no luxury either. You don't want to hear the sound of an angry rattlesnake from your thunderbox... this sound is often followed by popping and oozing electrolytic capacitors. Good luck and please don't get zapped Paul-Henrik Quoting mal hamilton : > Yes series for more V parallel for more I(amps) and preferable some R and > C > across each except they are really identical. > mal/g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: David Towers > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 12:37 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv diode > > > Hi Mal > surely "in series" to give a 4 KV diode at 1amp ? > dave G8SZX > > > > mal hamilton wrote: > Ken > On the serious side, use 6 x 1Kvolt @ 1A in parallel if u are stuck. > Don't get zapped > 73 mal/g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: mal hamilton > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:28 AM > Subject: LF: Re: 4kv diode > > > Electric Chair Co > Zapenda Cul de sac > Hellda State > Zip73 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ken > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:04 AM > Subject: LF: 4kv diode > > > Hello All. > I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or equivalent diode, BY4 4kv @ 1A, > BY6 6kv @ 1A, I have searched the web and looked in Farnell, any ideas > please. > > 73. > Ken > > M0KHW > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (rly-ma06.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.50]) by air-ma06.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMA064-8b24b11050f3e1; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 06:10:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA064-8b24b11050f3e1; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 06:10:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NELAp-0003Yc-61 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:09:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NELAo-0003YT-9l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:09:06 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NELAl-0006YU-TD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:09:06 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KTT00EFMGAP0A@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 12:08:50 +0100 (MET) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 12:08:11 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <5873AFCB97E54DBA84770A417D6BF62A@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: WPF 27-11.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_y8RUm06UodDH+9VLNhxs0g)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --Boundary_(ID_y8RUm06UodDH+9VLNhxs0g) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_q/Acg9CrLoQ2Aux9k1BzpQ)" --Boundary_(ID_q/Acg9CrLoQ2Aux9k1BzpQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi LF, capture ua4wpf henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: WPF 27-11.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m250.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --00032555666ed8a8a00478a9c827 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 If only. 2009/11/18 Graham > 2009-11-18 17:48 T61AA 0.503929 -13 1 MM36nq 10 S51CN > JN65tm 4503 300 > > Now thats something you dont normally see ! > > G .. > > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --00032555666ed8a8a00478a9c827 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 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2009/11/18 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.u= k>
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--00032555666ed8a8a00478a9c827-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df02.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDF024-5804b12dcc13c6; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:43:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF103-5804b12dcc13c6; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:42:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEqaY-0003u9-61 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:41:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEqaX-0003u0-Jg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:41:45 +0000 Received: from mail-pw0-f45.google.com ([209.85.160.45]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEqaW-0004bl-3z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:41:45 +0000 Received: by pwi15 with SMTP id 15so1817081pwi.4 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:41:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=JN+BnGV/daO2CVcZdVKdXjiTvXd+bBEMGweX8VYtb2g=; b=bIfxgvofrVC/zzW/rQzCFpi1CmnAbN7UBRCN8VIt3Dg8rqdZqN6rZe2IE+52etoXuR aVFVS9Q/uTFF+h88am18uf19rrpAtI8rM5Rw2uwgkEpT5DObqp5xy/9pmmZyL+cvWTYx hkBlK3Bb8/kDCEDj0mve4SSbLU40TdYn+TuU4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ppIw2Whp1KTF3Jfa044gnNU7Oi7rW1ALxcMUepKn+PTCu2UXj9p5o+xUxkY2H6/6s7 GbJhydPGpqohZvOhrtx7iT7efAGMp4TPzo6Gq5cLNJQVhuo7706TD6+2yqJ4Bb1UuhKN WegmGWo01GFr/3i89SqdzngIsMUiNsX7EN3VY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.19.11 with SMTP id w11mr192734rvi.66.1259527296800; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:41:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091129210647.u9ui1m1o4ws0804k@webmail6.kuleuven.be> References: <010c01ca7116$59615290$0317aac0@desktop> <843259.12319.qm@web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <9afca2640911291111v14a515dfy706294277775b7fa@mail.gmail.com> <20091129210647.u9ui1m1o4ws0804k@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:41:36 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9c36d47bbaf0651b Message-ID: <1f0624b90911291241v7cfb90e8v6f833b0dbc563558@mail.gmail.com> From: Gary - G4WGT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UPPERCASE_50_75=0.591 Subject: Re: LF: RTTY test transmission on 501.5 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd1537c1c59d80479888d49 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, UPPERCASE_50_75 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m242.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0cd1537c1c59d80479888d49 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rik, LF, Thanks for the report. 73 Gary - G4WGT 2009/11/29 Rik Strobbe > I can copy now G4WGT and G0NBD in PSK31 > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > > Quoting Roger Lapthorn : > > G3XIZ is a good signal calling G0NBD on 501.6kHz RTTY. Not yet heard >> M0FMT. >> >> 73s >> Roger G3XBM >> >> >> 2009/11/29 M0FMT > >> >> Jim FYI >> >> G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEACO >> <091129 18:35:55 Start Logging> >> N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.= C >> OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS >> >> G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEACO >> N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.= C >> OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS >> >> G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEACO >> N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.= C >> OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS >> >> G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEACO >> N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.= C >> OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS >> >> AIG7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEA= CO >> N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.= C >> OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS >> >> G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEACO >> N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.= C >> OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS >> >> G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEACO >> N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.= C >> OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS >> >> G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEACO >> N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.= C >> OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS >> >> 73 petefmt >> >> --- On Sun, 29/11/09, James Cowburn > james.cowburn@virgin.net>> wrote: >> >> From: James Cowburn > james.cowburn@virgin.net>> >> >> Subject: LF: RTTY test transmission on 501.5 >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> >> Date: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 17:06 >> >> >> Dear LF >> >> I am running a test RTTY transmission on 501.5 (I hope!!) It transmit= s >> for abt 1 min every 10 mins. >> >> I=92d be grateful for any reports. I will shut it down at 20.00z or = before >> if necessary >> >> 73s >> >> Jim G7NKS >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ >> http://www.g3xbm.co.uk >> G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 >> >> > > > --000e0cd1537c1c59d80479888d49 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rik, LF,

Thanks for the report.

73

Hi Mal

 

137 is my next= project though I am not really Dx from you.  If I get a Tx set up I’ll let you know= for a CW QSO or two

 

With best regards=

 

 

Jim

 Subject: LF= : 137 DX

 

LF GRP

Is there enought acty on this band to= justify the effort of getting started.

Years ago there was over 30 countries= active on cw on the band. I have 1w erp available and would like to work some dx

de mal/g3kev

 


Gary - G4WGT


2009/11/29 Rik Strobbe <= Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be= >
I can copy now G4WGT and G0NBD in PSK31
73, Rik =A0ON7YD - OR7T


Quoting Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>:

G3XIZ is a good signal calling G0NBD on 501.6kHz RTTY. Not yet heard M0FMT= .

73s
Roger G3XBM


2009/11/29 M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>>

Jim FYI

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N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C
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73 petefmt

--- On Sun, 29/11/09, James Cowburn =A0<james.cowburn@virgin.net<mailto:james.cowburn@= virgin.net>> wrote:

From: James Cowburn =A0<james.cowburn@virgin.net<mailto:james.cowburn@virgin.net>= >

Subject: LF: RTTY test transmission on 501.5
To: rsgb= _lf_group@blacksheep.org<mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>

Date: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 17:06


Dear LF

I am running a test RTTY transmission on 501.5 (I hope!!) =A0It =A0transmi= ts for abt 1 min every 10 mins.

I=92d be grateful for any reports. =A0I will shut it down at 20.00z or =A0= before if necessary

73s

Jim G7NKS





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--000e0cd1537c1c59d80479888d49-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v125.8) with ESMTP id MAILINMG033-a1c4afc79b64b; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:10:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG066-a1c4afc79b64b; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:10:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8gun-0007c5-DR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:09:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8gum-0007bw-Ph for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:09:12 +0000 Received: from out1.ip05ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.241]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8gum-0000Zm-3n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:09:12 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhAFAHcI/EpOlsBc/2dsb2JhbACCKCuBaoUPhE4Gz1SEPAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,731,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="80128332" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.192.92]) by out1.ip05ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 12 Nov 2009 21:09:02 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01ca63dc$5fc0b460$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:09:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: dx Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA63DC.5F57E070" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA63DC.5F57E070 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyone QRV for DX tonite de mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA63DC.5F57E070 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA63DC.5F57E070-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg07.mx.aol.com (rly-dg07.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.91]) by air-dg02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG024-5d94b06c4e3128; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:33:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG072-5d94b06c4e3128; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:33:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBWPW-0007Vk-Ho for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:32:38 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBWPW-0007Vb-5R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:32:38 +0000 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBWPU-0002lJ-KJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:32:38 +0000 Received: from aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091120163221.BQCD17277.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:32:21 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.33] (really [82.22.242.219]) by aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20091120163220.GKIU21638.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.2.33]> for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:32:20 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:32:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4B06C48F.27981.939B9FD@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=9YlaCzn6_68A:10 a=SJhhbR5tmHD68AHkckwA:9 a=paq3kGAiNn0KKowkmybbe0j5IHIA:4 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Test transmissions Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 After a major refurbishment of my lounge/office/shack, I have finally rebuilt my 136kHz station. To check reliability of the Tx at low speeds, I am transmitting using QRSS30 on 137.776kHz this evening (Friday). Please email if I am causing QRM to anyone listening for DX. I will switch off at around 2230UTC. Mike, G3XDV ========= From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me07.mx.aol.com (rly-me07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.41]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINME034-9cc4b143570177; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:13:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME078-9cc4b143570177; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:13:22 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NFDXs-0000KI-PL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:12:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NFDXs-0000K9-DF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:12:32 +0000 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NFDXr-0005Ua-Ci for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:12:32 +0000 Received: from aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091130210725.FKVU17277.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:07:25 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.33] (really [82.22.242.219]) by aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20091130210725.LDES13254.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.2.33]> for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:07:25 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:07:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4B14340A.19336.294139D@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> In-reply-to: <622008509.1259614024.60767016.44464@mcgi69.rambler.ru> References: <4B140806.10012.1E82610@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com>, <622008509.1259614024.60767016.44464@mcgi69.rambler.ru> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=W3tOLUehizD4qj6VhtReFuw5MKb8d+XqjIxlDsIazEA= c=1 sm=0 a=9YlaCzn6_68A:10 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=XQwWSD3EEZ8V_w1dYrMA:9 a=rL2MIsFdmlzHd2TDZHqMn8H6l30A:4 a=_dQi-Dcv4p4A:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: DX test 136.318kHz Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Roman, Thanks but I get an error message on that web address. Mike ==== > Hi Mike! > Started my grabber on for the night overview. > qrss.nm.ru > > * Mike Dennison [Mon, 30 Nov 2009 > 17:59:34 -0000]: > I will be transmitting "XDV" overnight (1800 - 0900 > UTC) tonight > using QRSS60 on 136.3180kHz. DX reports are welcome. > > > Mike. G3XDV > ========== > > > > -- > Roman RW3ADB. > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (rly-dc09.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.38]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC013-b3f4b03ce1513f; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:36:18 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC093-b3f4b03ce1513f; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:36:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAhsV-0001b4-Ij for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:35:11 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAhsV-0001av-3x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:35:11 +0000 Received: from out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.239]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAhsT-00088e-7J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:35:11 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgsFAKNcA0tZ8PBN/2dsb2JhbACCIi6LKQbHIYQ7BA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,764,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="99333611" Received: from unknown (HELO your91hoehfy9g) ([89.240.240.77]) by out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 18 Nov 2009 10:35:01 +0000 Message-ID: <001101ca683a$c95170b0$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:35:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: MF condx Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01CA683A.C8F93E90" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01CA683A.C8F93E90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Excellent condx last nite worldwide, although I have hrd even better= at times. Stns on 500 from across the pond solid unfortunately not in QSO mode= but did hear one VE2 stn calling CQ on 505 but no qsx freq to reply. also 160 m in great shape with lots of W and VE acty plus others beyon= d. One problem for dx reception is a SM ssb stn S9 here swamping the W/VE= stns around 507 kcs, has anyone else heard his SM stn? de G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01CA683A.C8F93E90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Excellent condx last nite worldwide,= although I=20 have hrd even better at times.
Stns on 500 from across the pond soli= d=20 unfortunately not in QSO mode but did hear one VE2 stn calling CQ on= =20 505 but no qsx freq to reply.
also 160 m in great shape with lots= of W and VE=20 acty plus others beyond.
One problem for dx reception is a SM= ssb stn S9=20 here swamping the W/VE stns around 507 kcs, has anyone else heard his= SM=20 stn?
 
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------=_NextPart_000_000E_01CA683A.C8F93E90-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME082-9aa4af6ae7b1ba; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:42:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME036-9aa4af6ae7b1ba; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:41:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N768g-0005YV-M5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:40:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N768g-0005YM-97 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:40:58 +0000 Received: from out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.239]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N767h-00088z-PN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:39:58 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqIEAKw89kpOlLtr/2dsb2JhbACEOdRQhD4E X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,703,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="76481470" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.187.107]) by out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 08 Nov 2009 11:40:51 +0000 Message-ID: <01cd01ca6068$54f09a40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <019f01ca6061$34a80040$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20091108120711.z1zbaakm0cw0cocg@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:40:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Rik Hitting stones requires skill but the CLICK is a LAZY MAN making fire G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe" To: Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 11:07 AM Subject: Re: LF: WSPR > Mal, > > assuming you are a man with a lot of humor here another witticism: > > Using CW is like living in a cave and making fire by hitting stones. > Using WSPR is like living in a modern house and making fire by one > click on the gass stove. > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > (using CW as well as WSPR) > > > Quoting mal hamilton : > >> WSPR is like a LAZY MAN using a WALKING STICK !!!!!! >> G3KEV >> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.55/2489 - Release Date: 11/08/09 07:37:00 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db05.mx.aol.com (rly-db05.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.80]) by air-db07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB072-ac94b0aa9fa336; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:28:28 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB057-ac94b0aa9fa336; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:27:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCaon-00015r-05 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:27:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCaom-00015i-Ko for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:27:08 +0000 Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.25]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCaol-0003PR-SB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:27:08 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KTK005YFIWZIZ@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:26:59 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:26:43 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <47EFA9A73EC8426F91E9F55A8C062820@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: YO 23-11.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_5EWMCUz2M3zsiwmQS8ut4w)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --Boundary_(ID_5EWMCUz2M3zsiwmQS8ut4w) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_4yCIh0qNBk2UhBs1U4HJ8Q)" --Boundary_(ID_4yCIh0qNBk2UhBs1U4HJ8Q) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi LF capture YO Henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: YO 23-11.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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Hi LF
capture YO
Henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
YO 23-11.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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ArcFAKgMDUtcHETu/2dsb2JhbACCJiuLPgbIEIQyBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,287,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="247557921" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.28.68.238]) by out1.ip09ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 25 Nov 2009 18:57:59 +0000 Message-ID: <003e01ca6e01$3384e310$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <003201ca6dff$3d5020f0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:57:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: mf acty Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01CA6E01.3333DCE0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01CA6E01.3333DCE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable PS SM6BGP also about at present ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 6:43 PM Subject: LF: mf acty EI6IZ now active on 500. Good sig in Scarboro 579. Just had a CW QSO= . de mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01CA6E01.3333DCE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
PS
SM6BGP also about at present
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mal=20 hamilton
To: rsgb
Sent: Wednesday, November 25,= 2009 6:43=20 PM
Subject: LF: mf acty

EI6IZ now active on 500. Good sig= in Scarboro=20 579. Just had a CW QSO.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_003B_01CA6E01.3333DCE0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD042-8f74af21df42d7; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:36:26 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD037-8f74af21df42d7; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:36:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N5qJR-0008Kx-P3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:34:53 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N5qJR-0008Ko-Dy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:34:53 +0000 Received: from mx40.mail.ru ([94.100.176.54]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N5qIA-000722-9n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:33:35 +0000 Received: from [94.75.141.77] (port=61068 helo=[192.168.1.4]) by mx40.mail.ru with asmtp id 1N5qJJ-000FVM-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 03:34:45 +0300 Message-ID: <4AF21D96.3080506@mail.ru> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 03:34:30 +0300 From: Dmitry User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 SeaMonkey/1.1.18 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C6EE3534@exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net> In-Reply-To: <254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C6EE3534@exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net> X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: AW: Re: LF: Who on +/-137.710KHz Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090808050404090205090709" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------090808050404090205090709 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi LF! 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boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001D_01CA5C67.B3499010" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01CA5C67.B3499010 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, Does anybody know if the Hell software is still available and, if so,= where from, please? 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Hi All,
Does anybody know if the Hell softwar= e is still=20 available and, if so, where from, please?
Thank you and 73,
Chris, G4AYT.
------=_NextPart_000_001D_01CA5C67.B3499010-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA044-8c44afc8d7b297; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:34:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA086-8c44afc8d7b297; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:34:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8iEG-0008IM-Ss for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:33:24 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8iEG-0008ID-3t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:33:24 +0000 Received: from smtp6.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.192]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8iEE-0008N4-Bt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:33:24 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3623.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id CCA5C7000085 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:33:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3623.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BCE487000087 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:33:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.8.173]) by mwinf3623.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 5B8CF7000085 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:33:14 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091112223314375.5B8CF7000085@mwinf3623.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <563642.98089.qm@web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <563642.98089.qm@web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:33:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_010A_01CA63E8.190682A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_010A_01CA63E8.190682A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Peter, I'm reading that .. but what am I reading ..is it yes or no ? G..=20 From: M0FMT=20 Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:55 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amatur= e stations ?? Just more boring old Beacon stations claging up MF.....look on= RAC web site... http://www.rac.ca/ ........ 2008-11-10 Canadian Amateurs on 600 Metres Industry Canada has accepted an= RAC proposal whereby selected Canadian radio amateurs would be permit= ted to operate in the vicinity of 500 kHz. These amateur operations wo= uld support Canada's efforts to action a proposal on the agenda of the= 2011 World Radio Conference (WRC2011) which, if adopted, would create= an amateur allocation in the 600-meter band. Industry Canada have aut= horized RAC to recommend amateurs who would be licensed to operate in= the 504 to 509 kHz band with a maximum power of 20 watts ERP and band= width up to 1 kHz. Stations operating in this band would be technicall= y operating under Special Developmental Licenses although they would= all be radio amateurs. Distinct call signs would be used and the lice= nses would be renewable annually subject to the amateur demonstrating= the research he has carried out. More information will follow shortly= in the pages of TCA or via subsequent bulletins. Bryan Rawlings VE3QN= /VE2QNN Radio Amateurs of/du Canada, Inc.=20 73 petefmt --- On Thu, 12/11/09, Graham wrote: From: Graham Subject: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other am= ature stations ?? To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 21:43 Can anyone clarify the situation as to who can work who=20 is this the same as the USA ?=20 Tnx - G .. =20 From the IARU web site=20 As of 30 October 2009 Canada issued two licences in the Develo= pmental Service in the range 504-509 kHz. a.. VE1ZZ has been assigned VX9PSO and is reported on 504.6= kHz=20 b.. VO1NA has been assigned VX9MRC and is reported on 507.77= and 508.5 kHz Two more stations, VE3OHH and VE7BDQ, are expected to become= active soon.=20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_010A_01CA63E8.190682A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Peter,
 
I'm reading that .. but  what am= I reading=20 ..is it  yes or no ?
 
G..

Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with= other=20 amature stations ??

Just more boring old Beacon stations claging up MF.....look= on RAC=20 web site... http://www.rac.ca/ =20 ........
 

2008-11-10

Canadian Amateurs on 600 Metres Industry Canada has accepte= d an RAC=20 proposal whereby selected Canadian radio amateurs would be permi= tted to=20 operate in the vicinity of 500 kHz. These amateur operations wou= ld support=20 Canada's efforts to action a proposal on the agenda of the 2011= World=20 Radio Conference (WRC2011) which, if adopted, would create an am= ateur=20 allocation in the 600-meter band. Industry Canada have authorize= d RAC to=20 recommend amateurs who would be licensed to operate in the 504= to 509 kHz=20 band with a maximum power of 20 watts ERP and bandwidth up to 1= kHz.=20 Stations operating in this band would be technically operating= under=20 Special Developmental Licenses although they would all be radio= amateurs.=20 Distinct call signs would be used and the licenses would be rene= wable=20 annually subject to the amateur demonstrating the research he ha= s carried=20 out. More information will follow shortly in the pages of TCA or= via=20 subsequent bulletins. Bryan Rawlings VE3QN/VE2QNN Radio Amateurs= of/du=20 Canada, Inc.
 
 
73 petefmt

--- On Thu, 12/11/09, Graham=20 <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

From:=20 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Subject: LF: Are the= new VE=20 stations able to qso with other amature stations ??
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Thursday, 12 November,= 2009,=20 21:43

Can anyone clarify the  situatio= n as=20 to  who can work who
is this the  same as the = USA=20 ? 
=  
Tnx - G ..   
From the  IARU  web= site=20
As of 30 October 2009 Canada issued two licences in the= =20 Developmental Service in the range 504-509 kHz.
  • VE1ZZ has been assigned VX9PSO and is reported on 504.6= kHz=20
  • VO1NA has been assigned VX9MRC and is reported on 507.77= and 508.5=20 kHz
Two more stations, VE3OHH and VE7BDQ, are expected= to become=20 active soon.=20





------=_NextPart_000_010A_01CA63E8.190682A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDB052-adb4b14203f145; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:43:17 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB081-adb4b14203f145; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:42:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NFC8D-0008JT-JV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:41:57 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NFC8D-0008JK-3U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:41:57 +0000 Received: from warsl404pip6.highway.telekom.at ([195.3.96.89] helo=email.aon.at) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NFC8B-0004x6-PZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:41:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 3061 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2009 19:41:49 -0000 Received: from 91-115-29-238.adsl.highway.telekom.at (HELO [192.168.1.101]) ([91.115.29.238]) (envelope-sender ) by smarthub95.highway.telekom.at (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 30 Nov 2009 19:41:49 -0000 From: Gerhard Hickl To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <000501ca71e8$d925b980$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> References: <1259600322.2708.33.camel@gerhard-desktop> <000501ca71e8$d925b980$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> Disposition-Notification-To: gerhard.hickl@aon.at Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:41:47 +0100 Message-ID: <1259610107.4914.11.camel@gerhard-desktop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.1 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Testtransmission 137,685 OE3GHB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Mal! Thank you very much for your report. I'm glad to heard that I made it over to you. I'm a LF beginner and let me use this opportunity to thank Ossi, OE5ODL. He helped a lot with tips and hints regarding antenna design, as well as hardware. The transistor I'm using in this TX was provided by him. I'm sure there are a lot of problems you can run into without a "guiding hand" aside. The QSB is probably caused partially by the storm we are having here. Gust up to 50mph. Thank you for your report and 73 OE3GHB Gerhard Am Montag, den 30.11.2009, 18:13 +0000 schrieb mal hamilton: > Gerhard > Ur sig visible at 1812 z MMM copy QSB > > De mal/g3kev/IO94SH > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gerhard Hickl" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 4:58 PM > Subject: LF: Testtransmission 137,685 OE3GHB > > > > Hi all! > > > > In the moment I'm trying to test my TX and my antenna. I'm going to > > transmit from 1800z to 2000z today. Probably a bit longer. > > > > My Antenna is a Marconi, 12m vertically/top-loaded. The loading coil is > > about 2,4 mH and antenna input is about 35 Watts. > > > > The QRG will be 137,685 and the text is "TEST OE3GHB" repeated every 10 > > Minutes. My VFO is also still in development-state an so QRG could vary > > some cps. > > > > Please take the time and try to receive my signal. Reports are very > > appreciated. Thank you in advance. > > > > 73 and cheers > > > > OE3GHB > > Gerhard > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (rly-ma05.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.49]) by air-ma10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA103-8ac4b057101329; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:23:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA056-8ac4b057101329; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:23:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NB9lr-0000ns-NJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:22:11 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NB9lr-0000nj-5T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:22:11 +0000 Received: from pne-smtpout1-sn1.fre.skanova.net ([81.228.11.98]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NB9lp-00030X-Gx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:22:11 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (81.235.167.68) by pne-smtpout1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (7.3.140.3) (authenticated as u33233109) id 4AE169E6003D588E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:22:03 +0100 Message-ID: <4B0570B4.8040209@telia.com> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:22:12 +0100 From: Johan Bodin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: WSPR 2.0 is now available Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/ 73 Johan SM6LKM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (rly-mf01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.171]) by air-mf06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF064-93f4b090f6a3a0; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 05:16:17 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF015-93f4b090f6a3a0; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 05:16:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NC9TN-0001Gz-Pt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:15:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NC9TN-0001Gq-7B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:15:13 +0000 Received: from out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.244]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NC9TM-00039Z-JY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:15:13 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ar0EAC6eCEtZ8aCA/2dsb2JhbACCT4s5BsQOhDwE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,266,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="246398732" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([89.241.160.128]) by out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 22 Nov 2009 10:15:04 +0000 Message-ID: <003001ca6b5c$a7635a70$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:15:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 137 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002D_01CA6B5C.A708DE60" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01CA6B5C.A708DE60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nw QRV 137.0 cq cw mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01CA6B5C.A708DE60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_002D_01CA6B5C.A708DE60-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md02.mx.aol.com (rly-md02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.140]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD103-8ec4b08e3e25b; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:10:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD024-8ec4b08e3e25b; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:10:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NC6Zo-0000Lg-UB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:09:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NC6Zo-0000LX-Ff for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:09:40 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NC6Zn-0002IK-Lh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:09:40 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so4565259bwz.4 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:09:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=KIoDylQduSBu6w3JvRakXpMB4cIH6iD1wDs1+nx6GIE=; b=mmG+9Iy3WfZYdhL2tmK89ZyAEzelruspzy86fYKFh6Up+Jyn0JfJtrJN8r/uOhNtjn Fk/RmsJA7OKKzPAEk5Ugd2ezD6dpEPO9aBsknzhpDijxe3e2HSOX/Vp1Y1p1IjyvnVLR cFLOjS+7mpAWZhyyBTTscTBRXdzYnWjA3b8HE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=JShdBh61jtSWt/azxtH00LvLPhDJDs/lTTFGVyA1Y/ivorrhyHgCbiDMmtNWNVth/n a31oV5HRjlLWWUNL+7PwGiFy1eMsfxSLXawTJLd6BXC/tFKR72vdaTQrwbQmwyVtALsH 14f5K0TfymR/MMTqcQHLEjgkLYTrqXiIedHRc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.34.9 with SMTP id j9mr3431700bkd.10.1258873773811; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:09:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4A7814FFC4834A01841AEE5D333DFA75@AGB> References: <785212.33618.qm@web28105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <4B086C3F.3080309@g3ysx.org.uk> <4A7814FFC4834A01841AEE5D333DFA75@AGB> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:09:33 +0000 Message-ID: <3aaadcb80911212309g528c5fdfrfc7d4b96b097ec11@mail.gmail.com> From: Chris McCarthy To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: Re: LF: WSPR BEACONS Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00032555a1961ae7d30478f06498 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m236.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --00032555a1961ae7d30478f06498 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stewart, still on version 1 wspr here. This one was strange and was received in between DI2AG decodes on the upper part of the band. 2009-11-21 20:06 VA2XQB 0.505182 -3 0 EG78 5 G3XVL JO02nb 11624 39 Chris G3XVL 2009/11/21 Graham > Know I see why this is called 'the reflector' same old things just ke= ep > bouncing round ! > > Ps Quite a lot of funny calls on the lf/mf activity list tonig= ht > ... not wspr 2 I hope ? > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Stewart Bryant" > Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 10:39 PM > To: > Subject: Re: LF: WSPR BEACONS > > > >> M0FMT wrote: >> >>> I am with Mal. WSPR has no place on the UK 501 / 504 Kc/s Amateur >>> /_Communication_/ Band. The Norwegian Licence has got it right - CW on= ly! >>> 73 petefmt >>> >> >> >> This is not what Ofcom calls it. In their recent consultation they say: >> >> "Agenda Item 1.23 - Amateur Service in parts of the band 415 =96 526.5= kHz >> >> "5.19 Radio amateurs use radio for experimental purposes and to provide >> communications in support of emergency services in some situations." >> >> So unless we are supporting an emergency, 500KHz seems to be a band for= us >> to conduct experiments on. >> >> - Stewart/G3YSX >> >> >> >> > > > --00032555a1961ae7d30478f06498 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stewart, still on version 1 wspr here. This one was=A0 strange and was rec= eived in between DI2AG decodes on the upper part of the band.

=A02009-11-21 20:06=A0=A0VA2XQB=A0 =A00.505182=A0=A0-3=A0=A00=A0=A0EG78=A0=A05=A0=A0G3XVL=A0=A0JO02nb=A0=A011624=A0 =A039=A0
Chris G3XVL
<= br>

2009/11/21 Graham = <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk= >
Know =A0I see= =A0why this =A0is called 'the reflector' same old things just kee= p bouncing =A0round !

Ps =A0Quite =A0a =A0lot =A0of =A0funny =A0calls =A0on the =A0lf/mf =A0 act= ivity list tonight ... not wspr 2 =A0I hope =A0?

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From: "Stewart Bryant" <stewart@g3ysx.org.uk>
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 10:39 PM
To: <= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Subject: Re: LF: WSPR BEACONS



M0FMT wrote:
I am with Mal. =A0WSPR has no place on the UK 501 / 504 Kc/s Amateur /_Com= munication_/ Band. The Norwegian Licence has got it right - CW only!
=A073 petefmt


This is not what Ofcom calls it. In their recent consultation they say:
"Agenda Item 1.23 - Amateur Service in parts of the band 415 =96 526.= 5 kHz

"5.19 Radio amateurs use radio for experimental purposes and to provi= de communications in support of emergency services in some situations.&quo= t;

So unless we are supporting an emergency, 500KHz seems to be a band for us= to conduct experiments on.

- Stewart/G3YSX







--00032555a1961ae7d30478f06498-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v125.8) with ESMTP id MAILINMG032-a1c4b0340862f8; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:32:17 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG066-a1c4b0340862f8; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:32:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAYRi-0007aD-CI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:30:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAYRi-0007a4-1d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:30:54 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAYRg-0003cR-Ti for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:30:54 +0000 Received: from edmwaa01.telusplanet.net ([75.157.140.241]) by priv-edmwes24.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091118003049.SMDE16249.priv-edmwes24.telusplanet.net@edmwaa01.telusplanet.net> for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:30:49 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.67] (d75-157-140-241.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.140.241]) by edmwaa01.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 90BF32476798273C for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:30:49 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4B034038.6060005@telus.net> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:30:48 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: The Pirate of Newfoundland? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) By popular request I'm lightening up on the issue. Not to be known as a 'Mal'content. For anyone interested in the real reason why this discussion is happening have a look at the new 600m Buttulator where I'll limit my 'Mal'contenting... :-) http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/ BTW - DCF39 is burning in here as of sunset local. 73 Scott From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (rly-mf07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.177]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v125.8) with ESMTP id MAILINMF041-9704afcc3111d9; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:23:26 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF076-9704afcc3111d9; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:23:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8lmu-0000Lx-Ut for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:21:24 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8lmu-0000Lo-8s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:21:24 +0000 Received: from mcgi74.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.212]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8lmr-0000sr-VW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:21:24 +0000 Received: from mcgi74.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi74.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07FBF17113 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:21:16 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [81.195.24.194] by mcgi74.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:21:15 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:21:15 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <563642.98089.qm@web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001801ca63ec$609a7f50$0900a8c0@lark> Message-Id: <1137672253.1258078875.51923096.88013@mcgi74.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_----------=_1258078875880131" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --_----------=_1258078875880131 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Hi LF! Congratulation to comrades in Canada with 500kHz opened! Look it on the 507.3 khz pse. Who is it? I see that signal onto G4WGT's grabber so often. I know who is it on the ~507.8 now: > b.. 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MAILRELAYINMA027-8954afc8738260; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:07:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8hoc-00089w-Vb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:06:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8hoc-00089n-1C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:06:54 +0000 Received: from idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca ([24.71.223.10]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8hoa-0001BX-Dp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:06:54 +0000 Received: from pd2ml1so-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.141.139]) by pd3mo1so-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 12 Nov 2009 15:06:44 -0700 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.0 c=1 a=BgIo6cWXEGMA:10 a=bMPSwsB01Q4O/CPJ8uTuaw==:17 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=f0RPBRECAAAA:8 a=pSDxxfrZAAAA:8 a=UliUF1eLxKXp51QQJlcA:9 a=lmwuGxTXkxiJcH5BSaoA:7 a=-8gLXowjzjEjyfs5GYM1e3mjuT0A:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=dn95DZbOqnwPSVB7:21 a=HvDZQeyFx3c1W-w1:21 a=BrDiTsk0AAAA:8 a=GM0rcODgsD86dDK29gUA:9 a=qt1TPkqS6fUW_GO2Mx0A:7 a=WiIxiK9xS36T6qJv_y8yxMSs3-gA:4 a=-hJg1tCh9CgA:10 a=Ss17ffG1SPc8rrHZ:21 a=iqeY42m6j7AZqOlW:21 Received: from unknown (HELO Jordan1) ([68.147.20.14]) by pd2ml1so-dmz.prod.shaw.ca with SMTP; 12 Nov 2009 15:06:43 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Jordan" To: References: <563642.98089.qm@web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:06:43 -0700 Organization: VE6ZT MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.5 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0035_01CA63A9.BEEA00F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01CA63A9.BEEA00F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm still trying to figure out why my request for the Experimental Per= mit was denied... If I recall, I was told there wasn't anything new to= be learned at that frequency, and that my region (VE6) wasn't particu= larly interesting.=20 I wonder who gets to decide who gets to operate...? I know it's not RA= C, although they do provide the paperwork. 73...Jordan VE6ZT ----- Original Message -----=20 From: M0FMT=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 2:55 PM Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amat= ure stations ?? Just more boring old Beacon stations claging up MF.....look on= RAC web site... http://www.rac.ca/ ........ 2008-11-10 Canadian Amateurs on 600 Metres Industry Canada has accepted= an RAC proposal whereby selected Canadian radio amateurs would be per= mitted to operate in the vicinity of 500 kHz. These amateur operations= would support Canada's efforts to action a proposal on the agenda of= the 2011 World Radio Conference (WRC2011) which, if adopted, would cr= eate an amateur allocation in the 600-meter band. Industry Canada have= authorized RAC to recommend amateurs who would be licensed to operate= in the 504 to 509 kHz band with a maximum power of 20 watts ERP and= bandwidth up to 1 kHz. Stations operating in this band would be techn= ically operating under Special Developmental Licenses although they wo= uld all be radio amateurs. Distinct call signs would be used and the= licenses would be renewable annually subject to the amateur demonstra= ting the research he has carried out. More information will follow sho= rtly in the pages of TCA or via subsequent bulletins. Bryan Rawlings= VE3QN/VE2QNN Radio Amateurs of/du Canada, Inc.=20 73 petefmt --- On Thu, 12/11/09, Graham wrote: From: Graham Subject: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other= amature stations ?? To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 21:43 Can anyone clarify the situation as to who can work who=20 is this the same as the USA ?=20 Tnx - G .. =20 From the IARU web site=20 As of 30 October 2009 Canada issued two licences in the Deve= lopmental Service in the range 504-509 kHz. a.. VE1ZZ has been assigned VX9PSO and is reported on 504.= 6 kHz=20 b.. VO1NA has been assigned VX9MRC and is reported on 507.= 77 and 508.5 kHz Two more stations, VE3OHH and VE7BDQ, are expected to become= active soon.=20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01CA63A9.BEEA00F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm still trying to figure out why my request= for the=20 Experimental Permit was denied... If I recall, I was told there wasn't= anything=20 new to be learned at that frequency, and that my region (VE6) wasn't= =20 particularly interesting.
I wonder who gets to decide who gets to operat= e...? I know=20 it's not RAC, although they do provide the paperwork.
 73...Jordan VE6ZT
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 M0FMT=
Sent: Thursday, November 12,= 2009 2:55=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Are the new= VE stations=20 able to qso with other amature stations ??

Just more boring old Beacon stations claging up MF.....lo= ok on RAC=20 web site... http://www.rac.ca/<= /A> =20 ........
 

2008-11-10

Canadian Amateurs on 600 Metres Industry Canada has accep= ted an RAC=20 proposal whereby selected Canadian radio amateurs would be per= mitted to=20 operate in the vicinity of 500 kHz. These amateur operations= would=20 support Canada's efforts to action a proposal on the agenda of= the 2011=20 World Radio Conference (WRC2011) which, if adopted, would crea= te an=20 amateur allocation in the 600-meter band. Industry Canada have= =20 authorized RAC to recommend amateurs who would be licensed to= operate in=20 the 504 to 509 kHz band with a maximum power of 20 watts ERP= and=20 bandwidth up to 1 kHz. Stations operating in this band would= be=20 technically operating under Special Developmental Licenses alt= hough they=20 would all be radio amateurs. Distinct call signs would be used= and the=20 licenses would be renewable annually subject to the amateur=20 demonstrating the research he has carried out. More informatio= n will=20 follow shortly in the pages of TCA or via subsequent bulletins= . Bryan=20 Rawlings VE3QN/VE2QNN Radio Amateurs of/du Canada, Inc.
 
 
73 petefmt

--- On Thu, 12/11/09, Graham=20 <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

From:=20 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Subject: LF: Are= the new VE=20 stations able to qso with other amature stations ??
To:= =20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Thursday, 12 November,= 2009,=20 21:43

Can anyone clarify the  situat= ion as=20 to  who can work who
is this the  same as the = USA=20 ? 
 
Tnx - G ..   
From the  IARU = web site=20
As of 30 October 2009 Canada issued two licences in the= =20 Developmental Service in the range 504-509 kHz.
  • VE1ZZ has been assigned VX9PSO and is reported on 504.= 6 kHz=20
  • VO1NA has been assigned VX9MRC and is reported on 507.= 77 and=20 508.5 kHz
Two more stations, VE3OHH and VE7BDQ, are expected= to become=20 active soon.=20



------=_NextPart_000_0035_01CA63A9.BEEA00F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de08.mx.aol.com (rly-de08.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.144]) by air-de03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE031-4f94aff38c5364; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:10:18 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE088-4f94aff38c5364; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:09:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9Rjg-0001oM-Ct for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:08:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9Rjf-0001oD-TL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:08:51 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9Rje-0008TL-DB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:08:51 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so4688220bwz.4 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:08:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=t1FWQymrzkn1TDfHcpudnEPZ1phoalVkzJB3IMLwIUE=; b=U5ijudaFdwUDV51S3OnjkRgtRU4zOwtLjxnEe15fT0bxSp/MIgq6oS90r5BF7MARN+ vTgevaN/rJQahrqBo3sd+uRZMdgvrvnNkqNSFSaX6dZwlrLJE8vgMfWbDyMKngMs7eLO 7ibFLdXSQM3NEPoSC6CPQokStRyTtiO3wNavM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=CPk4UXBFfonrF9a61m5mmTyMlUZ1mqCJnSC/7/8+zM3RYd3r5QfdZQift2SMSYabEZ iYEIALEYm/A6v12sYQchy6bQFpiXyv+4Q0NYYFtSSa9+5ecrhrbfRGTAynajgVZ8VYwg 0YydzQx1LYwCF8kbqxpgM9JdJxNpPmr0l2M3o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.2.211 with SMTP id 19mr7413625bkk.6.1258240124142; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:08:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:08:42 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911141508w69cbb664i4d18d02e39c480d0@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: LF: 500kHz WSPR - Germany at last Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd1d6eaa45bc604785cdb7d X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m284.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0cd1d6eaa45bc604785cdb7d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 2009-11-14 23:04 G3XBM 0.503892 -29 1 JO02dg 0.002 *DK6NI* JN59ln 805 108 Thanks so much for this report, which is my first from Germany and now my 7th country with <2mW ERP. 73s Roger G3XBM -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --000e0cd1d6eaa45bc604785cdb7d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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--000e0cd1d6eaa45bc604785cdb7d-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de01.mx.aol.com (rly-de01.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.137]) by air-de07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE072-4af4b00544a101; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:19:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE014-4af4b00544a101; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:19:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9kcX-0000Rx-Iv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:18:45 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9kcX-0000Ro-6F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:18:45 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9kcV-0000tn-6R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:18:45 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.6] (opc1.twatt.home [192.168.1.6]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0BC63B512 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:18:41 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4B005411.4010506@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:18:41 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1043CB7D895D4161B1C87CDD140332A2@AGB> <0CADF4DD71FD43A2A8384463754F6344@AGB> In-Reply-To: <0CADF4DD71FD43A2A8384463754F6344@AGB> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Running mW wspr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Graham wrote: > > Crazy system ..... spot just in from John ! I thought your mW signal was meant to be a challenge, but of course Roger's already discovered that WSPR will decode signals that you can't hear, and are often so weak on a waterfall that QRSS3 would be a struggle (despite what someone here repeatedly fails to comprehend) Can you go any lower? John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc02.mx.aol.com (rly-mc02.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.86]) by air-mc07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC071-d594b0832f4101; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:35:50 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC021-d594b0832f4101; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:35:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBun1-000823-8H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:34:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBun0-00081u-SQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:34:30 +0000 Received: from mailout11.t-online.de ([194.25.134.85]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBun0-0001ED-92 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:34:30 +0000 Received: from fwd01.aul.t-online.de by mailout11.t-online.de with smtp id 1NBsel-00066B-01; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:17:51 +0100 Received: from e7010 (Zeow9BZY8hm3jLrfQ8qhe+2notIgk0O41un5TPbdQUNZxu+-wOVr5+iAmDQjnH5gAf@[84.147.221.194]) by fwd01.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1NBscG-1hg0Jc0; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:15:16 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01ca6ac5$cfc00550$6402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:15:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: Zeow9BZY8hm3jLrfQ8qhe+2notIgk0O41un5TPbdQUNZxu+-wOVr5+iAmDQjnH5gAf X-TOI-MSGID: 15267651-cbc6-43f5-a2d6-b9cd00642f99 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: DI2AG daylight reports Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6ACE.2F7E8B30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6ACE.2F7E8B30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear MF, many thanks for the first WSPR-reports today.=20 14:54 PA3FNY 504Km 15:00 DF8JR 881 " =20 15:06 DD7PC 225 " =20 15:10 PA0EGO 507 "=20 15:26 G3XVL 753 " =20 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6ACE.2F7E8B30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear MF,
      &= nbsp; many=20 thanks for the first WSPR-reports today.
14:54  PA3FNY  504Km=
15:00  DF8JR   &n= bsp; 881=20 "  
15:06  DD7PC   = 225=20 "  
15:10  PA0EGO 507 " =
15:26  G3XVL   &n= bsp;753 =20 "  
 
73   Walter   DI2= AG /=20 DJ2LF
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6ACE.2F7E8B30-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC032-b3c4b025c7417f; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:19:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC088-b3c4b025c7417f; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:19:01 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAJFl-00014T-Hp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:17:33 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAJFl-00014K-3u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:17:33 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAJFj-0005gL-4u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:17:33 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2342451C00C for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:17:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from PC_van_Rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-106.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.106]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDD6EF3862 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:17:18 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:17:20 +0100 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <1f0624b90911160805u4435bd18ue805924594d8b997@mail.gmail.co m> References: <1f0624b90911160805u4435bd18ue805924594d8b997@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091117081718.BDD6EF3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Gary, All, yesterday I could copy VX9MRC in QRSS3 with a surprising strong signal as early as 18 UTC, when I launched Argo. Throughout the evening the signal was strong and with little QSB from 19-22UTC, after that the signal became weaker with much more QSB. Probably because I had a sked with Joe at 22:40 UTC ;-) . But despite all we managed to complete the QSO with both way M report (would have been a solid O earlier the evening). A first ON-VE QSO on 500kHz and with +/- 4075km a new DX record for me Joe transmitted on 507.770 and I on 501.190. Between 19 and 22 UTC the signal was audible most of the time and would have been CW copy if it were not squeezed between the NDB "Z" carrier at 507.980 (S9+ here) the SM6BHZ CW/SSB test transmissions (up to S9) and a local birdie on 507.600. For the QSO I was running 300W into my 11m high / 25m long lazy-L antenna, estimated ERP about 1.5 Watt (at best, if the greenery does not absorb too much) The night from Sunday - Monday I left Argo running, VX9MRC produced a good signal all through the night and faded out at 07UTC. This would mean that there is a potential transatlantic path on 500kHz for 13h a day !!! 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T At 17:05 16/11/2009, you wrote: >Hi All, > >Good signals from both stations last night. > >Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df11.mx.aol.com (rly-df11.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.24]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF063-58a4b07d35e1db; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:48:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF113-58a4b07d35e1db; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:47:43 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBoQS-0004rL-IK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:46:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBoQS-0004rC-6k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:46:48 +0000 Received: from smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com ([195.200.78.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBoQR-0007BT-E5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:46:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 3855 invoked by uid 507); 21 Nov 2009 12:46:30 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO JR) (john.rabson@numeo.fr@217.67.155.178) by smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 2009 12:46:30 +0100 Message-ID: <200911211246360102.1A12FB2A@smtp2.numeo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:46:36 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Building a Softrock Lite RX with the M0BMU mods for 136 kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Friends, Five or six years ago, I built the various circuits in the SPRAT introduct= ory SMD kit and they all worked. I now wish to assemble a Softrock Lite= RX for 136 kHz. =20 In the mean time my eyesight has unfortunately deteriorated and, even with= a very good magnifier and a sub-millimetre soldering bit, things are just= too fiddly for me to cope with. Is there anybody who could help, please?= The kit and the additional components necessary are at present at an add= ress in the UK. 73 John F5VLF/G3PAI From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df11.mx.aol.com (rly-df11.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.24]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF054-58e4b0b9a9033f; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 03:34:33 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF117-58e4b0b9a9033f; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 03:34:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCqpg-0004CU-Gn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:33:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCqpf-0004CL-Tr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:33:07 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCqpf-0008BC-3h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:33:07 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58E564C8037 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:33:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BE6C4C8143 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:33:00 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B0B9A3D.9030403@online.fr> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:33:01 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?IkplYW4tUGllcnJlIE3DqXLDqSAoRjFBRkopIg==?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4B04EADA.4090707@telus.net> <57a24ca70911190525s5bbf2768gcfe5e7150eb8f784@mail.gmail.com> <20091121211012.fehyrbxl4400ckc8@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <4B0B096A.7040507@online.fr> In-Reply-To: X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: VX9MRC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Joe , What your setup in 600m ? Thank you , 73 f1afj jcraig@mun.ca a =C3=A9crit : > Bonjour Jean-Pierre, > > Merci beaucoup. > Oui des signaux sont vraiment forts. > > 73 > Joe > > On Mon, 23 Nov 2009, "Jean-Pierre M=EF=BF=BDr=EF=BF=BD (F1AFJ)" wrote: > >> Hello Joe, >> >> This evening I listened to your beacon, it is too easy! =EF=BF=BD. firs= t blow=20 >> it is in limps! >> >> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj >> From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md08.mx.aol.com (rly-md08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.146]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMD083-91a4b0e941a106; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:43:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD082-91a4b0e941a106; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:43:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDfYD-0006CG-2i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:42:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDfYC-0006C5-4O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:42:28 +0000 Received: from msa-k1.u-netsurf.ne.jp ([202.233.11.14]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from <7l1rll@dp.u-netsurf.ne.jp>) id 1NDfYA-0006T2-0L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:42:28 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.5] (d82.HkanagawaFL41.vectant.ne.jp [222.230.132.82]) by msa-k1.u-netsurf.ne.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CFF9349DB for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:42:21 +0900 (JST) From: Rick Wakatori <7l1rll@dp.u-netsurf.ne.jp> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <000901ca6ea1$d28c4ac0$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> References: <1259236455.6299.20.camel@vaio3rd> <000901ca6ea1$d28c4ac0$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> Organization: RLL Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:42:22 +0900 Message-Id: <1259246542.6299.38.camel@vaio3rd> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: New comer in QRSS120 at 137.7KHz Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Mal, Thank you for response. It's now on the air. The text is "CQ 7L1RLL K", but now sent "CQ 7" so far. I will try day by day. -- -.. . --... .-.. .---- .-. .-.. .-.. .-.-. 7L1RLL under ubuntu/Linux in Kawasaki,Japan(JP) URL=http://www1.u-netsurf.ne.jp/~7l1rll/radio.html -..--- -.- .-.. ..-.. --. --. ...- .-... ...-. On Thu, 2009-11-26 at 14:07 +0000, mal hamilton wrote: > Rik > I will look for u. Pse let me know what time u are onair transmitting > de mal/g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rick Wakatori" <7l1rll@dp.u-netsurf.ne.jp> > To: > Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 11:54 AM > Subject: LF: New comer in QRSS120 at 137.7KHz > > > > Hi All, > > I have CQing by QRSS120 at 137.7KHz from a few day ago. > > Please look at the frequency. > > -- > > -.. . --... .-.. .---- .-. .-.. .-.. .-.-. > > 7L1RLL under ubuntu/Linux in Kawasaki,Japan(JP) > > URL=http://www1.u-netsurf.ne.jp/~7l1rll/radio.html > > -..--- -.- .-.. ..-.. --. --. ...- .-... ...-. > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (rly-mf04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.174]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF104-9564b0723ec2f8; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:19:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF044-9564b0723ec2f8; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:19:10 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBcje-0002BX-AF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:17:50 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBcjd-0002BN-Ep for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:17:49 +0000 Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com ([205.188.91.97]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBcja-0005P7-U4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:17:49 +0000 Received: from imo-da04.mx.aol.com (imo-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.202]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nAKNHZPk026371 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:17:35 -0500 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-da04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id l.ca7.53b0d133 (48600) for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:17:32 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:22:32 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: F4DTL@aol.com X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS20 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_ca7.53b0d133.38387eb8_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --part1_ca7.53b0d133.38387eb8_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1258759351" -------------------------------1258759351 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Hello Jay,nice signal again tonite. =20 =20 F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC756 Pro Ant: 10m tuned MF vertical Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 20/11/2009 13:32:31 Paris, Madrid, =20 jrusgrove@comcast.net a =E9crit : Thanks to Rik, Nicolas, Laurence (China!), Garry and Marco for successful= =20 reception reports...and=20 others that looked for the signal. Tonight WE2XGR/2 will transmit "X" in QRSS20 (with cw ID at the beginning= =20 of the X) from ~ 2130 to ~=20 2330Z. A slight frequency change was requested. Tonight's operation will= =20 be on 506.506 kHz. As=20 always, reports are greatly appreciated. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 =20 -------------------------------1258759351 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= FONT id=3Drole_document color=3D#000000 size=3D2 face=3DArial>
Hello Jay,nice signal again tonite.
 
F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP

RX : Icom IC756 Pro
Ant: 10m= tuned=20 MF vertical
 
 
 
Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 20/11/2009 13:32:31 Paris, Madrid,=20 jrusgrove@comcast.net a =E9crit :
T= hanks=20 to Rik, Nicolas, Laurence (China!), Garry and Marco for successful recep= tion=20 reports...and
others that looked for the signal.

Tonight WE2X= GR/2=20 will transmit "X" in QRSS20 (with cw ID at the beginning of the X) from= ~ 2130=20 to ~
2330Z. A slight frequency change was requested. Tonight's opera= tion=20 will be on 506.506 kHz. As
always, reports are greatly=20 appreciated.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2=20

 
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quoted-printable Hi LF, tonight i run beacon WSPR with only 10 mW ERP. This test will run all night. 73 de Gus SM6BHZ www.sm6bhz.com ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01CA5F44.27ED7A10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi LF,
 
tonight i run beacon WSPR with only 10= mW=20 ERP.
This test will run all=20 night.
 
73 de Gus SM6BHZ<= /DIV>
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_002F_01CA5F44.27ED7A10-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (rly-dd05.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.152]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD064-b7d4af9db13109; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:28:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD057-b7d4af9db13109; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:28:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7yG0-0000Wi-9q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:28:08 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7yFz-0000WY-4O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:28:07 +0000 Received: from web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.127]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7yFy-0005m0-1Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:28:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 86302 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Nov 2009 21:27:55 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1257888475; bh=TCEGYXUKUyucuy6mljlS79VYpzhEA75Ggk90yDjuB5c=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GFTFJvuTwqgXVad8TJuXnxNVyT+euDfCKh5cBdwUcNNOV+clz6MsA8uUI8nS2HFhntICjftjH29vtU4MrvDWZLLHS6BGsLEyzt/1Pzi1yilj6Xi6BCZcxQLg2k9Mvxfwa8pfA5n+tbNDwWRJVMPWVo/Xm0dz12qFwxzJlGQ4xrg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=29L/6ZLn0EU43rROvsEYJ05SJWHJ8o5JbN9jtPWrOg6YcojCyeK6BSTZ17ueVmqDRCsstIrVDVF05sFy4b7syTCUVg9eHuomdm2Rushq7S2Sda0+eaE2t3HG5+g8Tbj1BGFbdr1o/MhVewHps8M7IQoja0Sr+1YGwiVZ8WRW/WM=; Message-ID: <773621.85981.qm@web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: v.HTAPkVM1lPkITSLgSxjL_nEQy4exn5b7w8qMBsHPwOp.vXWBUfBiXn10eXhXZmZ7yzRxXVXB.aFel0eD5iQHzvnq8JmQKv3ZbODmmLiX3ZrWnfyZdjzGWQWVNc0vPwsLe.py4UUDPrAsSe3M0iVuvNG5Yky15jF9Tpfclq5q5KrD.s.mTQjC4FVeLx91UshLpszvvbxxUP9xI2Bj5G9QxsZiApn6HingNkoIWQjdb51YTu1jQKleVjBprM8ZjJdRYoeZ89IOkSEDhATGfBAGKz0m8Htdlk0ySdYUWiX8tPlG_3B1i8Vk8WFOEUFaiKxprEsaL0zeks Received: from [86.130.73.134] by web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:27:55 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:27:55 -0800 (PST) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: RE: Re: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-806144338-1257888475=:85981" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING, LINES_OF_YELLING_2 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d232.1 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-806144338-1257888475=:85981 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jim and group =C2=A0 Since you have dragged me into this debate Jim I feel obliged to respond. =C2=A0 To date you have not caused me any bother from your WSPR activities. This= is probably due to your low TX power and antenna efficiency plus the dist= ance separating us. =C2=A0 Nobody has a right to "A Frequency" on any band even though the RSGB would= have you believe differently, especially on VHF but that's another issue.= You have no need IMHO to feel you are a Johny come lately to 500kc/s it's= your band as much as it is any one elses who satisfy OFCOMs requirements= (I feel a bit of a fraud about that myself at times). =C2=A0 None of that is at issue, what is at issue is the mode that carries no ide= ntification what so ever, so how would=C2=A0Dennis actually know who is se= nding? Also weak signal modes is a misnomer in that weak to whom? The blok= e 20 miles away it probably is weak but to the poor devil only a fraction= of a mile away its a rock pounder! On HF where there is only short distan= ce ground wave and fairly wide bands these constant carrier,=C2=A0unattend= ed, switch on and forget, non two-way=C2=A0communication=C2=A0modes co-exi= st quite well with other traffic. However on 500 kc/s we have the benefit= of very extended ground wave but the disadvantage of a=C2=A0very narrow= band to operate two-way communications along side a constant carrier mode= with no common means of contacting each other. AM, CW, FM and SSB are all= transparent modes so if the channel (and that's all we really have on 500= , not like in Norway) is congested it is easy to ask a fellow op to stand= by and that's what we do on CW and with the other transparent modes. We also don't need about=C2=A0 500= quids worth of computing gear to do it. And in=C2=A0any case even that wo= uld not help in the case of WSPR because it is not a two-way comms. system= !=C2=A0 The argument will go I am sure, that us CW merchants should buy ourselves= better CW filters and that my be the solution but please remember those= of us who build and use cw tend to use simple gear but even with your (no= t you in particular but figuratively) FT1,000,000MFJ's=C2=A0will have the= front end de-sensed by a whopping signal 1.5kc/s from the working channel= . So that's the issue Jim.=20 =C2=A0 IMHO it's not a compatible mode.=20 =C2=A0 When=C2=A0I applied for my NOV I asked for it on the basis of working CW,= QSOing in the Amateur fashion with some QRSS activity.=C2=A0I did not ask= =C2=A0to use a constant carrier mode 24/7. I asked for CW=C2=A0thinking ev= ery body else was asking for the same, looks like I was wrong! =C2=A0 I am please to see the Norwegians seem to have got it completely right 17k= c/s band with CW only. =C2=A0 This is not a debate the Europeans (apart from OZ,ON and now LA)=C2=A0or= the USA or the Canadians can enter into because=C2=A0none=C2=A0allows two= -way comms on 500kc/s. Those countries other than UK that do allow two-way= comms on=C2=A0500 are only sparsly populated with ops and do not see the= issue from first hand but purely from a theoretical perspective and thats= not the same thing. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 73 es cul on TB AM=C2=A0or 500 cw Jim de=C2=A0petefmt. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 --- On Tue, 10/11/09, James Cowburn wrote: From: James Cowburn Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 18:40 Hi Dennis =C2=A0 Not offended at all, more alarmed and disappointed that I have been causin= g you problems and grief. As the =E2=80=9Cnew boy to the band=E2=80=9D I= did not realize I was operating on top of your frequency. =C2=A0=20 =C2=A0=20 Many apologies to you, Chris (and probably Pete too) for my QRM.=C2=A0 If= you can let me know the sorts of times that you want to work the band the= n I=E2=80=99ll endeavour to keep in Rx only mode or QRT during those times= . =C2=A0=C2=A0Chris did suggest that if I could avoid =E2=80=9CWSPRing=E2= =80=9D on Saturday and Sunday mornings when a lot of CW QSOs are underway= then that would help. If there are any evening segments or weekday slots= that I could also avoid then do =C2=A0let me know and =C2=A0hopefully we= can find a good solution.=20 =C2=A0=20 I certainly don=E2=80=99t want to be a =E2=80=9CJohnny come lately=E2=80= =9D and ruin the band for all the other users=20 =C2=A0=20 =C2=A0=20 =C2=A0=20 With best regards =C2=A0=20 =C2=A0=20 Jim=20 =C2=A0=20 =C2=A0=20 Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS=20 =C2=A0 From: owner- rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner- rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org ] On Behalf Of DENNIS EASTERLING Sent: 10 November 2009 17:22 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO =C2=A0=20 Hi Jim =C2=A0 I was speaking figuratively as you are so near and=C2=A0on my xtl frequenc= y.=C2=A0=C2=A0 My comment=C2=A0was directed at Chris' statment in email su= bject1000 QSOs,=C2=A0who also suffers and others who have complained about= beacons in general.=C2=A0=C2=A0 In fact the band is often dead for hours= on end and it is nice to find any signal, beacon or QSO, especially when= testing.=C2=A0 My point is that =C2=A0is there should be room for=C2=A0bo= th=C2=A0beacons=C2=A0and QSOs,=C2=A0 then follows a suggestion that LFrs= =C2=A0may like to=C2=A0come to some agreement about reserving a section fo= r each mode. =C2=A0 Hoping I did not offend, 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: James Cowburn=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 4:51 PM Subject: LF: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO =C2=A0 Hi Dennis=20 =C2=A0=20 I did not realize I was causing you QRM. =C2=A0A quick e-mail would have= alerted me to it, rather than me being a =E2=80=9Cpain=E2=80=9D. =C2=A0= =C2=A0I=E2=80=99m happy to work out a compromise where we operate at separ= ate times or if you suggest a different frequency for me to work on. Just= drop me a line with your ideas on this.=20 =C2=A0=20 With best regards =C2=A0=20 =C2=A0=20 Jim=20 =C2=A0=20 =C2=A0=20 Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS=20 From: owner- rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner- rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org ] On Behalf Of DENNIS EASTERLING Sent: 10 November 2009 16:13 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO =C2=A0=20 Congratulations Chris. =C2=A0 Most wspr stations seem to congregate at the top end of the band and are= not too much trouble.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Jim G7NKS is the biggest pain as= he sits on my xtl frequency and is so close.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Maybe a compromi= se would be for people using beacons to keep to one segment of the band (h= opefully not 502.2 kHz -hee) =C2=A0 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Chris Osborn=20 To: LF Group=20 Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 6:03 PM Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO =C2=A0 LF It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m. This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 600m /= 80m. Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0CF -= No. 998. QSO break-down according to mode: =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 928 CW,=C2=A0 34 RTTY= =C2=A0 and=C2=A0=C2=A0 5 QRSS 600m STATIONS My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many of= these go back to the start of the UK=C2=A0 600m allocation in March 2007. Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding beaco= ns). Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of agai= n:=C2=A0 G3KZU, G3YHV . . . Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT:=C2=A0 G3UNT,= G3VTT, G4GDR. . . MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the same sta= tions many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of my total conta= cts. My most frequently worked stations are: GW3UEP - 120=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 G3KEV - 102=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 M0FMT - 90=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 G3ZWH=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 80=C2=A0 (al= as now SK) G3DXZ=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 -=C2=A0=C2=A0 67=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 G4GDR -= =C2=A0=C2=A0 60=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 EI0CF/ GI4DPE=C2=A0 -=C2=A0= 51=C2=A0=C2=A0 M0JXM - 48 G3UNT=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 -=C2=A0=C2=A0 45=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 G3VTT=C2= =A0 -=C2=A0=C2=A0 38 CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a cross-ba= nd QSO: DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . . and our few EU MF friends are still active: ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . . WSPR ON 600m I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for the WSPR= mode was never achieved for=C2=A0 hand sent Morse (CW), which after all= is the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF marine band. If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stations oper= ating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band then I guess= it may be time for me to QSY. 73 Chris G3XIZ =C2=A0 =20 --0-806144338-1257888475=:85981 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Jim and group
 
Since you have dragged me into this debate Jim I feel obliged to resp= ond.
 
To date you have not caused me any bother from your WSPR= activities. This is probably due to your low TX power and antenna efficie= ncy plus the distance separating us.
 
Nobody has a right to "A Frequency" on any band even though the RSGB= would have you believe differently, especially on VHF but that's another= issue. You have no need IMHO to feel you are a Johny come lately to 500kc= /s it's your band as much as it is any one elses= who satisfy OFCOMs requirements (I= feel a bit of a fraud about that myself at times).
 
None of that is at issue, what is at issue is the mode that carries= no identification what so ever, so how would Dennis actually know wh= o is sending? Also weak signal modes is a misnomer in that weak to whom?= The bloke 20 miles away it probably is weak but to the poor devil only a= fraction of a mile away its a rock pounder= ! On HF where there is only short distance ground wav= e and fairly wide bands these constant carrier, unattended, switch on= and forget, non two-way communication modes co-exist quite well= with other traffic. However on 500 kc/s we have the benefit of very exten= ded ground wave but the disadvantage of a very narrow band to operate= two-way communications along side a constant carrier mode with no common= means of contacting each other. AM, CW, FM and SSB are all transparent mo= des so if the channel (and that's all we really have on 500, not like in= Norway) is congested it is easy to ask a fellow op to stand by and that's what we do= on CW and with the other transparent modes. We also don't need about = ; 500 quids worth of computing gear to do it. And in any case even th= at would not help in the case of WSPR because it is not a two-way co= mms. system! 
The argument will go I am sure, that us CW merchants should buy ourse= lves better CW filters and that my be the solution but please remember tho= se of us who build and use cw tend to use simple gear but even with your= (not you in particular but figuratively) FT1,000,000MFJ's will have= the front end de-sensed by a whopping signal 1.5kc/s from the working cha= nnel. So that's the issue Jim.
 
IMHO it's not a compatible mode.
 
When I applied for my NOV I asked for it on the basis of working= CW, QSOing in the Amateur fashion with some QRSS activity. I did not= ask to use a constant carrier mode 24/7. I asked for CW thinkin= g every body else was asking for the same, looks like I was wrong!
 
I am please to see the Norwegians seem to have got it completely righ= t 17kc/s band with CW only.
 
This is not a debate the Europeans (apart from OZ,ON and now LA) = ;or the USA or the Canadians can enter into because none allows= two-way comms on 500kc/s. Those countries other than UK that do allow two= -way comms on 500 are only sparsly populated with ops and do not see= the issue from first hand but purely from a theoretical perspective and= thats not the same thing.
 
 
73 es cul on TB AM or 500 cw Jim de petefmt.
 
 


--- On Tue, 10/11/09, James Cowburn <james.cowburn@v= irgin.net> wrote:

From: James Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.n= et>
Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO
To: rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 18:40

Hi Dennis

 =

Not offended at all,= more alarmed and disappointed that I have been causing you problems and= grief. As the =E2=80=9Cnew boy to the band=E2=80=9D I did not realize I= was operating on top of your frequency.  =20

 = =20

Many apologies to yo= u, Chris (and probably Pete too) for my QRM.  If you can let me know= the sorts of times that you want to work the band then I=E2=80=99ll endea= vour to keep in Rx only mode or QRT during those times.   Chris= did suggest that if I could avoid =E2=80=9CWSPRing=E2=80=9D on Saturday= and Sunday mornings when a lot of CW QSOs are underway then that would he= lp. If there are any evening segments or weekday slots that I could also= avoid then do  let me know and  hopefully we can find a good so= lution.=20

 = =20

I certainly don=E2= =80=99t want to be a =E2=80=9CJohnny come lately=E2=80=9D and ruin the ban= d for all the other users=20

 = =20

 = =20

 = =20

With best regards

=  =20

=  =20

Jim=20

=  =20

=  =20

Dr. James Cowburn G7= NKS=20

=  

From:= owner- rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner- rsgb_lf_group@= blacksheep.org ] On Behalf Of = DENNIS EASTERLING
Sent:= 10 November 2009 17:22
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO

 =20

Hi Jim

 

I was speaking figuratively as you are so near= and on my xtl frequency.   My comment was directed at= Chris' statment in email subject1000 QSOs, who also suffers and othe= rs who have complained about beacons in general.   In fact the= band is often dead for hours on end and it is nice to find any signal, be= acon or QSO, especially when testing.  My point is that  is ther= e should be room for both beacons and QSOs,  then foll= ows a suggestion that LFrs may like to come to some agreement ab= out reserving a section for each mode.

 

Hoping I did not offend, 73 Dennis M0JXM=

----- Original Message -----

To:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 4:51 PM

Subject: LF: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO

 

Hi Dennis=20

 = =20

I did not realize I= was causing you QRM.  A quick e-mail would have alerted me to it, ra= ther than me being a =E2=80=9Cpain=E2=80=9D.   I=E2=80=99m happy= to work out a compromise where we operate at separate times or if you sug= gest a different frequency for me to work on. Just drop me a line with you= r ideas on this.=20

 = =20

With best regards

=  =20

=  =20

Jim=20

=  =20

=  =20

Dr. James Cowburn G7= NKS=20

From:= owner- rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner- rsgb_lf_group@= blacksheep.org ] On Behalf Of = DENNIS EASTERLING
Sent:= 10 November 2009 16:13
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO

=

 =20

Congratulations Chris.

 

Most wspr stations seem to congregate at the to= p end of the band and are not too much trouble.    Jim G7NK= S is the biggest pain as he sits on my xtl frequency and is so close. = ;  Maybe a compromise would be for people using beacons to keep to on= e segment of the band (hopefully not 502.2 kHz -hee)

 

73 Dennis M0JXM

----- Original Message -----

From: Chris Osborn

To:LF Group

Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 6:03 PM

Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO

 

LF

It was a red-le= tter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m.
This includes 72= cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 600m / 80m.

Rog= GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0CF - No.= 998.

QSO break-down according to mode:     928 CW,&= nbsp; 34 RTTY  and   5 QRSS

600m STATIONS
=
My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many of these go back to the= start of the UK  600m allocation in March 2007.
Of these I have= worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding beacons).
Many st= ations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of again: = ; G3KZU, G3YHV . . .
Others were once very active but have subsequently= gone QRT:  G3UNT, G3VTT, G4GDR. . .

MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED

With so few= active operators it is obvious that one will work the same stations many= times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of my total contacts.
My= most frequently worked stations are:

GW3UEP - 120   = ;  G3KEV - 102      M0FMT - 90  &n= bsp;  G3ZWH  -  80  (alas now SK)
G3DXZ  =   -   67     G4GDR -   60&nbs= p;     EI0CF/ GI4DPE  -  51   M0JX= M - 48
G3UNT    -   45    = G3VTT  -   38

CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS
=
There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a cros= s-band QSO:
DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . .

and= our few EU MF friends are still active:
ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . .

WSPR ON 600m

I personally find it sad that the pre= sent level of enthusiasm for the WSPR mode was never achieved for  ha= nd sent Morse (CW), which after all is the mode which I call to mind when= thinking of the old MF marine band.
If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase las= ts, with more and stronger stations operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz seg= ment which is the 600m band then I guess it may be time for me to QSY.
=
73 Chris G3XIZ





 

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Windows 7: I wanted simpler, no= w it's simpler. I'm a rock star. =3D --_31d9cce6-6582-4adb-9461-0820be5cb1a7_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de02.mx.aol.com (rly-de02.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.138]) by air-de07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE073-4bd4b0679391ac; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:11:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE028-4bd4b0679391ac; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:10:51 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBRMo-0005Us-QW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:09:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBRMo-0005Uj-EK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:09:30 +0000 Received: from web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.127]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBRMo-0006mo-1o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:09:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 55634 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Nov 2009 11:09:23 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1258715363; bh=YcZHs7EbDGgV0f0Oz/Q1KjIP5sh3uhQIi7zMgYjvJpU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MwUxGgBjG2O6+3MCQnX51Hx1rFvbAKcw+wONORKF07iLwXARI1QDd6Hj5yQWdUapwqh0BpIpelbHw8Zsb4L/xqrZ4R5cvAt7rVUwc/F1hVZSxlOgbtZ6jdzQdeMFuJqdc/ekUf8aDjhFD1RY1+bluWqZQG6kTGZU2ontoh4aVJs= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YqzW/KYYYsiEccDi2+KPaPak/e3PP4jNVyzn915nGkbyn3p3QngL9BQvHdZoB5CkM0saFRsInLAxEM7ZoP1J3yMGKSIqO1zEWPFdAvkJ70CxsM3vxXh0tRIVXo99/lttZkzRdeioQojysnKeJLyC+gULs5SPzEQQNNrFwaYqrG0=; Message-ID: <923971.55504.qm@web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: qzGDOFkVM1kF6J7IeytO9Z8VT_Fw_.oq8poGGOkl8jr7VNOUDsh9oSTCE5ebe67m3METninELjpVasWcgjL6dLVeylxQ_PmxYpCq74Pr_dD4swEDW6YwOy0y0f2pK37gOdoBDMcobh6n81GWldarbQBFyM5Fp8EOnOCYIDPmzvKWRYfOp_PTY5ZSX98v8Cr4rEaw4eIftpNptDJI_0Mtok.2KhS02RNdznoyMlC6s.bza1bZiePJPQ2UMNxiHmz1Wmr0ejTjJ8.VsvXB59ABA4c7QDkvkS4DDJ9CSGhvZG0wBdQNfrZ12ENfOQ4F4sKpJ1kdZBo1nEDqGg-- Received: from [86.140.72.176] by web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:09:23 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:09:23 -0800 (PST) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: Soft Rock for 500 Khz where to buy ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1931977254-1258715363=:55504" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d296.2 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-1931977254-1258715363=:55504 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0 Hi Graham n group =A0 Just mail Tony Parks details and costs at......... http://www.kb9yig.com/= =A0=20 =A0 Gl 73 petefmt --- On Thu, 19/11/09, Graham wrote: From: Graham Subject: LF: Soft Rock for 500 Khz where to buy ?? To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thursday, 19 November, 2009, 23:29 All . =A0 Where=A0 can a Soft Rock rx for=A0 500=A0 Khz be=A0 purchased from ./ =A0 Or=A0 do=A0 you=A0 need=A0 to=A0 modify a 455 Khz version for 500 ? If so .. where from a 455khz version ? =A0 Tnx-=20 =A0 Graham ..=20 =20 --0-1931977254-1258715363=:55504 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Hi Graham n group
 
Just mail Tony Parks details and costs at......... http://www.kb9yig.com/ 
 
Gl 73 petefmt

--- On Thu, 19/11/09, Graham <g8fzk@g8f= zk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

From: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>Subject: LF: Soft Rock for 500 Khz where to buy ??
To: rsgb_lf_group@= blacksheep.org
Date: Thursday, 19 November, 2009, 23:29

All .
 
Where  can a Soft Rock rx for = 500  Khz be  purchased from ./
 
Or  do  you  need  to=   modify a 455 Khz version for 500 ?
If so .. where from a 455khz version ?
 
Tnx-
 
Graham ..



=20 --0-1931977254-1258715363=:55504-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (rly-mg07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.113]) by air-mg04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG043-a244b034d2b367; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:26:30 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG076-a244b034d2b367; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:26:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAZIB-0007wW-2C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:25:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAZIA-0007wN-K5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:25:06 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAZI9-0003sp-KE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:25:06 +0000 Received: from edmwaa03.telusplanet.net ([75.157.140.241]) by priv-edmwes23.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091118012503.QSCH1978.priv-edmwes23.telusplanet.net@edmwaa03.telusplanet.net> for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:25:03 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.67] (d75-157-140-241.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.140.241]) by edmwaa03.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 4FDB33672FE0C170 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:25:03 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4B034CEF.2010206@telus.net> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:25:03 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <961313.39040.qm@web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) A fine argument if VX9MRC was licensed in the amateur service. But amateur regulations do not apply as VX9MRC is licensed in the developmental service as posting your license publicly would allow others to see. Permissible communication in the developmental service must be clearly stated in the license terms. Polishing up the plank, Scott jcraig@mun.ca wrote: > > Blimey... I've been exposed as a PIRATE! Polly, me parrot, (Newfoundland > Puffin) is concerned I might be disciplined a with keel hauling or the > cat-o-nine-tails! Shiver me timbers! > > For those who have worked VX9MRC and are losing sleep for fear of > being asked to walk the plank by their licensing authority, please > take comfort in > the following: > > The General Radio Regulations defina a radio station as "a place > wherein radio apparatus is located." VO1NA is duly "licensed" in > Canada and is the radio station wherein is located the > radiotelegraphic apparatus of VX9MRC, thanks to the kind efforts of > the Marconi Radio Club of Newfoundland. > > The regulations state "No operator of an amateur station shall > communicate > with radio stations other than stations licensed in the amateur service" > > Therefore, any station that communicates with VX9MRC is communicating > with a station licensed in the amateur serivce and does so accordance > with the regulations. > > Alas, ye olde PIRATE who can evidently lob 10^30 big (600m) photons per > second across the brine pond is but an amateur in legal matters. > > 73 Arrh me Hearties!!! > Joe VO1NA > > On Fri, 13 Nov 2009, Andy Talbot wrote: > >> And who do you think would bother if you did work one ? >> Who would even care ? >> >> Andy >> www.g4jnt.com >> >> this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny state >> >> >> 2009/11/13 M0FMT >> >>> The whole setup looks decidedly dodgy to me. If they are Pirates how >>> would it affect my license if the opportunity arose for me to work >>> one and I >>> did? The only place I know where I am licensed work a non Amateur >>> station is >>> on 5megs and that can only be a UK Mill station. >>> >>> It's a question of how much you value your license I suppose. >>> >>> 73 petefmt >>> >>> >>> --- On *Fri, 13/11/09, Graham * wrote: >>> >>> >>> From: Graham >>> Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature >>> stations ?? >>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 14:53 >>> >>> Scott >>> >>> SO.... Matter and antimatter cannot coexist at close range for more >>> than a >>> small fraction of a second because they collide with and annihilate >>> each >>> other, releasing large quantities of energy in the form of gamma rays >>> >>> Got it now .. gamma rays are electromagnetic ..hence radio waves are >>> produced .. which may suffer (constructive interference) or >>> (destructive >>> interference) resulting in large variations in amplitude at the >>> point of >>> observation ..... >>> >>> Thanks ! >>> >>> G .. >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Scott Tilley" >>> >>> >>>> >>> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:29 PM >>> To: >>> >>> >>>> >>> Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other >>> amature >>> stations ?? >>> >>>> >>>> Hi John >>>> >>>> VX is in developmental service (same idea as US stations), EI in >>>> amateur >>> service... Like positive and negative antimatter they don't mix. >>>> >>>> 73 Scott >>>> >>>> >>>> John P-G wrote: >>>>> Scott Tilley wrote: >>>>>> Hi Graham >>>>>> >>>>>> All Canadian 600m stations are operating under COMMERCIAL >>>>>> Developmental >>> Licenses and are not able to communicate with the Amateur Service. >>>>> >>>>> So VX9MRC shouldn't be having regular CW QSOs with EI0CF? >>>>> >>>>> Still confused.... >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> GM4SLV >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD052-b994b06ce98339; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:15:09 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD093-b994b06ce98339; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:15:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBX3o-0007qR-U1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:14:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBX3o-0007qA-6a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:14:16 +0000 Received: from out1.ip09ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.245]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBX3l-000365-PE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:14:16 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAKtdBktOlMup/2dsb2JhbADVHoQ8BIFv X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,778,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="235448301" Received: from unknown (HELO your91hoehfy9g) ([78.148.203.169]) by out1.ip09ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 20 Nov 2009 17:13:59 +0000 Message-ID: <001d01ca6a04$dad11770$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <4B06C48F.27981.939B9FD@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:14:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Test transmissions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Right on top of the Russian and other stn DX window. Move down to the low end of the band out of the way. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Dennison" To: Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 4:32 PM Subject: LF: Test transmissions > After a major refurbishment of my lounge/office/shack, I have finally > rebuilt my 136kHz station. > > To check reliability of the Tx at low speeds, I am transmitting using > QRSS30 on 137.776kHz this evening (Friday). Please email if I am > causing QRM to anyone listening for DX. I will switch off at around > 2230UTC. > > Mike, G3XDV > ========= > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df08.mx.aol.com (rly-df08.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.21]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF071-56a4b07140d21f; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:11:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF081-56a4b07140d21f; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:11:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBbgE-0001tW-Lp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:10:14 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBbgE-0001tN-4R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:10:14 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBbgB-00057a-Tm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:10:14 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E9957B804B for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:10:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id F276131E702 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:10:01 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id D1C7418056; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:10:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from 204.129-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (204.129-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.247.129.204]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:10:01 +0100 Message-ID: <20091120231001.q273cf980s048woc@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:10:01 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <20091120141648.8WGQY.1557635.root@mp17> <007f01ca6a1b$34a0b8d0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <009a01ca6a22$07a90470$0517aac0@desktop> <9afca2640911201343q6330c05cxbc250a456fc61952@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9afca2640911201343q6330c05cxbc250a456fc61952@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.247.129.204 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR a QSO mode not just beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Roger for WSPR QSO's you need WSJT7, that beside other modes also supports WSPR. TheWSPR protocol is widened to allow the exchange of report and other =20 information. This in contradiction to the WSPR software where the format is limited =20 to call-locator-power. WSJT7 also does not upload to wsprnet.org and the WSPR software =20 ignores any format that differs from call-locator-power. So a WSPR QSO is really 2-way without any 3rd party (such as =20 wsprnet.org) being involved. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting Roger Lapthorn : > Now I am unclear what really constitutes a WSPR QSO. Does me getting =20 > a WSPR database report from XX3XXX and he getting on from me at =20 > much the same time on the same database constitute a QSO? Or does =20 > it have to be a "real" QSO a bit like JT6m? > > I agree with Rik that an HF contest exchange contains less (mutually =20 > useful) data than either of these. > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > 2009/11/20 James Cowburn =20 > > > Dear All, > > According to the ARRL, WSPR contacts, if verified as two way, will quali= fy > towards DXCC awards as they consider these to be a QSO mode and not simp= ly a > beacon. > > As there is an exchange of callsign, locator and signal strength then th= at > was deemed sufficient by the ARRL to qualify for DXCC and as a QSO in a= data > mode much like RTTY or PSK31 for example. > > This was discussed at the recent RSGB conference in a session on WSPR. > > With best regards > > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: =20 > owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal =20 > hamilton > Sent: 20 November 2009 19:54 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: Re: WD2XES WSPR 136.0 > > Recently there has been an upsurge in wspr BEACON appliance operators an= d > your suggested frequency area is not the place for them. The bottom end > would keep Beacon acty out of the way. There would still be room for the= odd > EU qrs operator, can't say I have heard many in recent years. The freq= area > 137 - 138 k/cs is frequently occupied by Russian and other EU dxers for > inter Country working using CW and QRS and 136.5 - 137 for local CW > working. > NA stns wishing to work EU would still use 137 - 138 on CW and QRS and= not > be clobbered by wspr carriers going ON/OFF. > I hope you see the logic > G3KEV > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > > To: > > Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:16 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Re: WD2XES WSPR 136.0 > > >> Thanks for the suggestion, but I doubt it will cause you any more > interference than it has for the last 5 years. From our perspective, the > lower end of the band has long been reserved for EU to NA operation. >> >> John, W1TAG >> >> ---- mal hamilton =20 >> > wrote: >> > om I woud suggest you Beacon at the extreme bottom end of the band an= d > not >> > in the middle of the CW and QRS DX portion. >> >> > > > > > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG103-a2e4b027e7b26d; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:44:18 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG088-a2e4b027e7b26d; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:44:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NALWp-00021Y-MS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:43:19 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NALWp-00021P-98 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:43:19 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com ([209.85.218.224]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NALWn-0006hc-98 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:43:19 +0000 Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so6682522bwz.30 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:43:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=X6pYfjZ3F02Nn/nWM5CPUGqBOuqxbpUqbRXSFENkST0=; b=eAnDIsMImV/tOl/DETuV5Stk5ENzNaYJQllATAzZ5vo5yDUQao+YqyT17hQuoSNzUg C49vfN+lssEa/3a6Nef3a1JWFTyvdH9hQnjX9ds9CC7P7BcSdIuSfw41r7EmozgG+zfc W7FCGdfFat5FwdKK6oOxAIxKXZp5dXFoysUDo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=c2ucVvtcm5/TtLp9rZvDCf/Vk3LQWiDwvaeeQNdAn02zJTr7HlGVwxZrF2ParNEnId 2EM3DeZthWw4lwnwGTkOa1jDuhPAbs4BzQPn+TxL1jrMkDHDxUaheNkqRoAgEXD5o0ln xoQ0wJy1QWt2hkIHWQyf9vAahbjf+vQxXSb8E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.87.209 with SMTP id y59mr619649wee.21.1258454590941; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:43:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:43:10 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911170243q3b4e2c95kb2668b937e727070@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_10_20=0.945,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 136kHz WSPR tests Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d6454bdbec0804788ecaff X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d302.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0016e6d6454bdbec0804788ecaff Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear all, Very encouraged by my results at 500kHz, I'd like to try some "low ERP" WSPR tests on 136kHz using the same small antenna and transverter (slightly modified). Ideally I'd need stations like M0BMU, M0FMT, G7NKS and others not too far away from JO02dg to TX and to listen out for me, as these stations get a good signal from me on 500kHz. * Please would you let me know if you'd be able to listen and upload 136kHz WSPR spots sometime in the next week or so*? As yet I am not quite ready to start, but I'll let you know when I am. BTW, congratulations to the bigger stations on 500kHz achieving transatlantic QSOs. 73s Roger G3XBM -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --0016e6d6454bdbec0804788ecaff Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all,

Very encouraged by my results at 500kHz, I'd like to= try some "low ERP" WSPR tests on 136kHz using the same small an= tenna and transverter (slightly modified).=A0 Ideally I'd need station= s like M0BMU, M0FMT, G7NKS and others not too far away from JO02dg to TX= and to listen out for me, as these stations get a good signal from me on= 500kHz.

Please would you let me know if you'd be able to listen and upl= oad 136kHz WSPR spots sometime in the next week or so? As yet I am not= quite ready to start, but I'll let you know when I am.

BTW, co= ngratulations to the bigger stations on 500kHz achieving transatlantic QSO= s.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088
--0016e6d6454bdbec0804788ecaff-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (rly-ma02.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.46]) by air-ma08.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMA083-8914b12a77c30b; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:55:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA023-8914b12a77c30b; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:55:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEn2J-0002Fq-1l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:54:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEn2I-0002Fh-FV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:54:10 +0000 Received: from lnx500.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de ([130.83.156.225]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEn2G-00036H-OE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:54:10 +0000 Received: from FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.212.129]) by lnx500.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.14.2/8.14.2/HRZ/PMX) with SMTP id nATGs5J5011740 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:54:05 +0100 (envelope-from schaefer@hst.tu-darmstadt.de) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de) by FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de with AVK MailGateway; for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:54:07 +0100 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:54:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AA6C@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> In-Reply-To: <4B12205C.5020501@tut.by> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: LF: DK7FC/p Thread-Index: AcpwxW2D1zx/0OeDS76vQ0/h4TduIAATjDoA From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= To: X-AVK-Virus-Check: AVB 19.595;29.11.2009 X-PMX-TU: seen v0.99a by 5.5.8.383112, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2009.11.29.164220 X-PMX-SPAMCHECK: outgoing mail X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: AW: LF: DK7FC/p Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hey Andrej, LF Thank you very much! That is a great motivation form e and i will spend ti= me and energy to reach a better RX and then we will surely get a qso!=20 Yesterday, as I have put everything in the car and built it up there on th= e hill in the dark and wind I had a much better feeling since I know that= there are some stns waiting to get the signal! I am very interested in the stn / equipment all the Lowfers have. Is there= a site where one can get the infos? I want to share my fascination (and perhaps motivate some others starting= on LF) and so I put some Infos and pictures on my LF-RIG on my site at qr= z.com. So, cu the next days! 73, Stefan/DK7FC -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org] Im Auftrag von Andrej Gesendet: Sonntag, 29. November 2009 08:19 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: Re: LF: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz Hello Stefan, LF Biggest signal on the band. RST was 559 but no answer on my calls. Maybe next time. Thanks for activity. 73! EW6GB in KO45CN From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB092-ae04b07faee234; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:36:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB086-ae04b07faee234; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:36:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBr3w-0005uJ-TJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:35:44 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBr3w-0005uA-DI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:35:44 +0000 Received: from smtp6.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.191]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBr3u-00018F-JW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:35:44 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3618.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 34AAC7000082 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:35:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3618.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 27DA47000083 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:35:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.58.108]) by mwinf3618.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id D93DD7000082 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:35:36 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091121143536889.D93DD7000082@mwinf3618.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <4B07ABA4.4060102@online.fr> <004601ca6ab3$a160b400$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <004501ca6ab4$9a81dd20$0517aac0@desktop> In-Reply-To: <004501ca6ab4$9a81dd20$0517aac0@desktop> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:35:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Can only dream of working dx like this on cw ... 2009-11-21 13:54 9M3KKR 0.503906 -23 1 OL69 1000 G3ZJO IO92ng 8894 325 mind you after watching the movie ...perhaps machine's can dream as well ? G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "James Cowburn" Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 2:12 PM To: Subject: RE: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO > > How do you know they are unattended? > > > Jim > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton > Sent: 21 November 2009 14:05 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO > > Two unattended machines had a QSO!! Is that what you mean. > g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andy Talbot" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 1:52 PM > Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO > > > CanI suggest you read thoroughly the documentation on how the mode > works before making claims about the database.and validity. The > database can only be updated by stations decoding and reportoing, and > if each QSO partner has a reciprocal report in the database for > near-adjacent time intervals , then they MUST have been in contact > with eachother and cannot be classed as anything bu a valid QSO. Its > impossible to have achieved this in any other way. > > Please read all the documentation first. > > Andy > www.g4jnt.com > > This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health > and safety police > > > > 2009/11/21 Wolf Ostwald : >> Hello group ! >> >> >> >> I am not an expert with WSPR at all. But I followed the discussion > regarding >> false detection of calls thru the database. >> >> To my understanding the WSPR operator has NO way to really find out > whether >> the computer came to the right conclusion about the calls received, or >> whether it just judged by means of plausibility. We humans have no sense > for >> phaseshift, that means we have to believe the machine. >> >> I think that the database in the background is like a walking stick for > the >> blind. >> >> Of course it's a new and exciting technology, but I doubt that it is on > one >> and the same level with a regular exchange and therefore should not be >> considered equally verifying a valid contact. >> >> My two pence worth de wolf df2py >> >> > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg01.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMG013-9f94b1261d3297; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:58:28 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG023-9f94b1261d3297; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:58:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEiOo-0000af-Cr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:57:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEiOn-0000aW-Vw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:57:05 +0000 Received: from out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.244]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEiOn-0001sm-Cr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:57:05 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AugEAFvwEUtOlAkL/2dsb2JhbACCUYtMBsRphDEEgXI X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,307,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="265450737" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([78.148.9.11]) by out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 29 Nov 2009 11:56:59 +0000 Message-ID: <003c01ca70eb$0aa52120$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <2746F3E144D3480AB85CD466920B1313@lindavideo> <003001ca70e7$24aaf3a0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:56:52 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: 4kv diode Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0039_01CA70EB.0A5B46E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01CA70EB.0A5B46E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ken On the serious side, use 6 x 1Kvolt @ 1A in parallel if u are stuck. Don't get zapped=20 73 mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:28 AM Subject: LF: Re: 4kv diode=20 Electric Chair Co Zapenda Cul de sac Hellda State Zip73 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ken=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:04 AM Subject: LF: 4kv diode=20 Hello All. I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or equivalent diode, BY4 4kv @ 1A,= BY6 6kv @ 1A, I have searched the web and looked in Farnell, any ide= as please. 73. Ken M0KHW =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01CA70EB.0A5B46E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ken
On the serious side, use 6 x 1Kvolt= @ 1A in=20 parallel if u are stuck.
Don't get zapped
73 mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mal=20 hamilton
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 20= 09 11:28=20 AM
Subject: LF: Re: 4kv diode

Electric Chair Co
Zapenda Cul de sac
Hellda State
Zip73
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ken
Sent: Sunday, November 29,= 2009 11:04=20 AM
Subject: LF: 4kv diode

Hello All.
I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or= equivalent=20 diode, BY4   4kv @ 1A, BY6  6kv @ 1A, I have search= ed the web=20 and looked in Farnell, any ideas please.
 
73.
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------=_NextPart_000_0039_01CA70EB.0A5B46E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD074-92e4af6fa1f18; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:04:48 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD106-92e4af6fa1f18; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:04:33 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7BAd-0007Py-46 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:03:19 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7BAc-0007Pp-Kh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:03:18 +0000 Received: from smtp828.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.13.163]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7BAa-0005bc-Aw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:03:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 61446 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2009 16:54:57 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=4V4lKZR9EUThGmHmhNI7p8G89GbtCwE4zdEdXKyL3WRc5eSUyr1yMOOusQE3U7/cHn4eWv9j6ZCpAfR5rhW89G8izyyzrJDpPHEkp4kCgMzYWrlsGQ08ga0DEBnORYvXNKAkaB22dxv16NGWVKUer4pY+wfhMa5/GXx/fY7CBk0= ; Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.177.107.201 with login) by smtp828.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 2009 16:54:57 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: qKIhhNCswBB2TTHr2BORWcGGR2mpopxhCcunGIxpCKQYiG07Q7UOhNo- X-YMail-OSG: SYnZXEkVM1nR8uJtlGipnuzIW3vsiegQTjikVM7ccTXWF_Grvul26efQskgdMFY2IDvdhJJ662daq5AhNfL0cPAY5mO_8LErm7ypGtvnqWIYIXVv8BK_ZReuQo.ApmE1UoSlve9Q67myFfPsI1sHXqgLRKTQGKHgDhzbgEr59b_sHiNDjudY_9Yes4H9CQ1oSt6S9NNnsrLgDV94KlM1OlRDhYndiadptN.r4BhgR851ytYlBfVuMmRIM7PH2QGu5kKuhsbzTXma46J59PR2.IyAt9lodPjL3ij5X8JQDJO9pQ7RKS3.GVjfWUsQ1.GAphlc0A-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "James Moritz" To: References: <001b01ca6086$cd0966b0$0617aac0@jimdesk> In-Reply-To: <001b01ca6086$cd0966b0$0617aac0@jimdesk> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:54:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Losses due to ant in tree? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Jim, LF Group, I did some experiments a while back that compared the efficiency of a top-loaded vertical (inverted L about 10m high and 40m long) in an environment surrounded by trees, compared to the same antenna in the middle of an open field. On 500kHz the antenna surrounded by trees was only about 1/6th as efficient as the field antenna, so trees certainly have a major effect. Part of the effect is due to increased loss resistance - the trees being a lossy dielectric in the capacitor formed by the antenna wire and the ground plane. Also, the radiation resistance is reduced (i.e. less field strength for the same antenna current), which I guess was due to induced RF current flowing in the tree in the opposite direction to the current in the vertical section, partly cancelling radiation from the antenna. It was possible to measure a significant fraction of the total antenna current actually flowing in the tree trunks. On 136k, the difference in efficiency was even greater. So I expect the tree has a significant effect, especially since the wire is actually in contact. For my antenna, the wire was kept at least a few m away from any tree, but it was surrounded by several trees. You will probably find moving the antenna wire away from the tree reduces the loss resistance significantly, and it should also lead to an increase in effective height/radiation resistance. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Cowburn" To: Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 3:19 PM Subject: LF: Losses due to ant in tree? > Hi All, > > > > The vertical 5m section of my inverted L runs up into the branches of a > silver birch tree. The wire goes over a large bough at 5m or so and then > comes out of the branches for some 22m down to a 4m high pole attached to > the garage. > > > > Has anyone a guesstimation of the losses in signal caused by running the > wire through the tree? From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me05.mx.aol.com (rly-me05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.39]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME052-9b84affc1599f; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:52:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME054-9b84affc1599f; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:52:43 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9apk-00053b-Rk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:51:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9apk-00053S-G8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:51:44 +0000 Received: from fmmailgate04.web.de ([217.72.192.242]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9apj-0008J7-Rk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:51:44 +0000 Received: from web.de by fmmailgate04.web.de (Postfix) with SMTP id EC0B9620ED7D for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:51:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from [91.55.49.210] by freemailng2503.web.de with HTTP; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:51:36 +0100 Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:51:36 +0100 Message-Id: <1484134848@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: =?iso-8859-15?Q?Horst_St=F6cker?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Organization: http://freemail.web.de/ X-Provags-Id: V01U2FsdGVkX18NnyoqmFYX766mSLbrj30uteavYyGTb2Bhgd5uB5SM99MOI eajMO2ArOxB6Jf+91TydqZMwGtFrD/Bxhj38ltEIhJmTyUCohcDClSfiqpJP g== X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: SP2KDS - Not any idea what the additional signs mean ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Yesterday I sent some captures which show SP2KDS in QRSS3 with a good sign= al - but some addional signs tht I can not interprete. Anyone an idea? Horst _____________________________________________________________ DSL-Preisknaller: DSL-Komplettpakete von WEB.DE schon f=FCr=20 16,99 Euro/mtl.!* Hier klicken: http://produkte.web.de/go/02/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df12.mx.aol.com (rly-df12.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.25]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF052-5934affdbcfa6; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:45:46 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF122-5934affdbcfa6; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:45:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9cau-0005WR-2i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:44:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9cat-0005WI-Dz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:44:31 +0000 Received: from mail-pz0-f177.google.com ([209.85.222.177]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9cas-0000Jn-Ky for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:44:31 +0000 Received: by pzk7 with SMTP id 7so5012843pzk.30 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 02:44:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ZDSOx0Cxv8hTFO0+VZcuR5+1nJhBfY962jlfemTaCJw=; b=qUBX1kPCcMRlZ1+P+8EQS6OqqdZuej5CvnvKd3gTO4EFgML5S1W/1WlbBLAezwjq+r i7xuOMs5j7ESLckSltNm8AT8PAq40K70eYkyS0rRUmSQjvzdB02LJZmg/yhgpisO6Oet 5K2QlNwYfxHFmE3UFf4vl0jWoLLD5abC0WQZw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=IfPQUD/bJbkKNihR+mJDJxLCvdEkL3toNXh5sXWg9+NZhqMml68Sqi6WGL0h48vRXY pRGHUS9MCCeFuV83NmeR+y2QPNdnW5OtoLDoHwkXIg0dOR7Y3A7RsDnfYDpUQDQ2EZGs TNQNcJ3asiiIJmJex8JMGFfDyao5dS5rmWbpw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.194.6 with SMTP id r6mr168002rvf.2.1258281862485; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 02:44:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091115112410.27d3dldtj44k4sk4@webmail6.kuleuven.be> References: <20091115112410.27d3dldtj44k4sk4@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:44:22 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 50a0be386b0dd117 Message-ID: <1f0624b90911150244p1c8ccbd7p47cc3b33eb270b2@mail.gmail.com> From: Gary - G4WGT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Who / where is OR2ELN ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd2114e70d54804786693d0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m263.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0cd2114e70d54804786693d0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Rik, Graham, I also got false decode last night that looked genuine but searches revealed nothing. 091114 1958 5 -28 0.5 0.503998 WE6HMU JJ11 20 0 560 -32 091114 1958 8 -22 -1.1 0.503999 WE6HMU JJ11 20 0 560 0 JJ11 also in the water but off the west coast of Africa, perhaps the pirate has a fast boat :-)) Cheers, Gary - G4WGT. 2009/11/15 Rik Strobbe > Graham, > > the call OR2ELN does not exist > if it is a pirate he is floating in the Indian Ocean somewhe half way > between Madagascar and Heard Island. > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > Quoting Graham : > > 2009-11-14 23:14 OR2ELN 0.503908 -33 0 >> MF03 501 G0NBD IO83 11740 326 >> >> Just decoded ? >> >> tnx - G >> >> >> >> >> > > > --000e0cd2114e70d54804786693d0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Rik, Graham,

I also got false decode last night that= looked genuine but searches revealed nothing.

091114 1958 =A0 5 -28 =A00.5 =A0 0.503998 =A0WE6HMU JJ11 20 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0 =A00 =A0 560 =A0-32
091114 1958 =A0 8 -22 -1.1 =A0 0.503999 =A0WE6HMU JJ11 20 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0 =A00 =A0 560 =A0 =A00

JJ11 also in the water= but off the west coast of Africa, perhaps the pirate has a fast boat :-))=

Cheers,

Gary - G4WGT.

2009/11/15 Rik Strobbe <= Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be= >
Graham,

the call OR2ELN does not exist
if it is a pirate he is floating in the Indian Ocean somewhe half way betw= een Madagascar and Heard Island.

73, Rik =A0ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:

=A02009-11-14 23:14 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0OR2ELN =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A00.503908 =A0= =A0 =A0 =A0-33 =A0 =A0 0 =A0 =A0 =A0 MF03 =A0 =A0501 =A0 =A0 G0NBD =A0= IO83 =A0 =A011740 =A0 326

Just =A0decoded ?

tnx - G








--000e0cd2114e70d54804786693d0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg08.mx.aol.com (rly-dg08.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.92]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG072-5e44b045f26218; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:55:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG083-5e44b045f26218; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:55:03 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NArXN-0004pt-Lz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:54:01 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NArXN-0004pk-3S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:54:01 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NArXL-0005CO-1L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:54:01 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 124C951C009 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:53:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from ICTS-S-HUB-N4.luna.kuleuven.be (icts-s-hub-n4.luna.kuleuven.be [10.112.9.14]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2FA931E702 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:53:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from ICTS-S-EXC2-CA.luna.kuleuven.be ([10.112.11.13]) by ICTS-S-HUB-N4.luna.kuleuven.be ([10.112.9.14]) with mapi; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:53:48 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:52:52 +0100 Thread-Topic: Re: 500kHz in Belgium Thread-Index: AcpoZdEl0TJYWvHET666OTmo2v1sGAAK0bYS Message-ID: References: <20091118085815.7282031E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <477782.43526.qm@web28104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <20091118102656.11BAD31E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <20091118145534.2BE5D31E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be>,<002201ca6865$1c55a180$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> In-Reply-To: <002201ca6865$1c55a180$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Accept-Language: nl-NL, nl-BE Content-Language: nl-BE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: nl-NL, nl-BE MIME-Version: 1.0 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: Re: 500kHz in Belgium Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_BF4A524700075746A6467658DFC7102C127F47964DICTSSEXC2CAlu_" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_000_BF4A524700075746A6467658DFC7102C127F47964DICTSSEXC2CAlu_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.itu.int/ITU-R/asp/terminology-definition.asp?lang=3Den&rlink=3D= {AA1D0B6B-97AB-403D-B2C0-136FF09F8422} ________________________________ Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] namens mal hamilton [g3kevmal@talktalk.net] Verzonden: woensdag 18 november 2009 16:38 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: LF: Re: 500kHz in Belgium Rik What ITU document contains the definition that digital modes are telegraph= y. The official handbook issued by HM STATIONARY OFFICE for radio officers= states that telegraphy is on/off keyed morse code ie CW and MCW and telephony a voice transmission. Other permitted modes fall into a diff= erent category. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 2:55 PM Subject: LF: 500kHz in Belgium All, over the past weeks I received several questions wether ECC Recommendation= T/R 61-01 includes 501-504kHz in Belgium. I asked BIPT (our Ofcom, FCC, ...) and received this answer (in Dutch) : Een buitenlandse titularis van een HAREC vergunning mag onder dezelfde voo= rwaarden als de Belgische radioamateurs alle toegelaten klassen van uitzen= ding en alle frequenties gebruiken. Dan mag hij ook de frequentieband 501-504 kHz gebruiken. English translation: A foreign holder of a HAREC licence may operate under the same conditions= as Belgian radio amateurs, using all approved modes and frequencies. This includes the frequency range 501-504kHz. So it is legal to operate as ON/PAxxx/P, ON/Fxxxx/P, ON/Gxxxx/P etc. Restrictions (that of course also apply to our foreign guests): - 501-504kHz - NIB - max. 5W EIRP (not ERP !) - max. 100Hz bandwidth - only telegraphy (as per ITU definition, thus includes digital text modes= ) 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T --_000_BF4A524700075746A6467658DFC7102C127F47964DICTSSEXC2CAlu_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshee= p.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] namens mal hamilton [g3kevmal@t= alktalk.net]
Verzonden: woensdag 18 november 2009 16:38
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: LF: Re: 500kHz in Belgium

Rik
What ITU document contains the defini= tion that digital modes are telegraphy. The official handbook issued by HM= STATIONARY OFFICE for radio officers states that telegraphy is on/off key= ed morse code ie CW and MCW
and telephony a voice transmission.= Other permitted modes fall into a different category.
G3KEV
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009= 2:55 PM
Subject: LF: 500kHz in Belgium

All,

over the past weeks I received several questions wether ECC Recommendation= T/R 61-01 includes 501-504kHz in Belgium.

I asked BIPT (our Ofcom, FCC, ...) and received this answer (in Dutch) :
Een buitenlandse titularis van een HAREC vergun= ning mag onder dezelfde voorwaarden als de Belgische radioamateurs alle to= egelaten klassen van uitzending en alle frequenties gebruiken.
Dan mag hij ook de frequentieband 501-504 kHz gebruiken.

English translation:
A foreign holder of a HAREC licence may operate under the same conditio= ns as Belgian radio amateurs, using all approved modes and frequencies. This includes the frequency range 501-504kHz.

So it is legal to operate as ON/PAxxx/P, ON/Fxxxx/P, ON/Gxxxx/P etc. Restrictions (that of course also apply to our foreign guests):
- 501-504kHz
- NIB
- max. 5W EIRP (not ERP !)
- max. 100Hz bandwidth
- only telegraphy (as per ITU definition, thus includes digital text modes= )

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
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autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500 dx Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0043_01CA5B1F.917247A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01CA5B1F.917247A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Any DX stns about tonite? mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01CA5B1F.917247A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Any DX stns about tonite?
mal/g3kev
 
------=_NextPart_000_0043_01CA5B1F.917247A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD094-b984b0cfe8829f; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:53:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD092-b984b0cfe8829f; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:53:14 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDEXh-0001zC-KR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:52:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDEXh-0001z3-6B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:52:09 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s4.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.15]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDEXg-0008Gv-9O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:52:09 +0000 Received: from BLU146-DS1 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s4.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:52:01 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [221.198.50.198] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: To: Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:52:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Nov 2009 09:52:01.0643 (UTC) FILETIME=[EFB1D3B0:01CA6DB4] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: XKOs freq Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0111_01CA6DB4.EEFCB480" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0111_01CA6DB4.EEFCB480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A rather noisy shot of a signal on XKO's freq which faded out/stopped= shortly thereafter. Running dot 60 slow so things a bit compressed at= dot 30 tx speed. Laurence KL1X WE2XPQ Wasilla Palmer Alaska OM89UA http://kl1x.com/screen.html ------=_NextPart_000_0111_01CA6DB4.EEFCB480 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
A rather noisy shot of a signal on XKO's fre= q which=20 faded out/stopped shortly thereafter. Running dot 60 slow so things a= bit=20 compressed at dot 30 tx speed.
 
Laurence KL1X WE2XPQ Wasilla Palmer Alaska= =20 OM89UA
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0111_01CA6DB4.EEFCB480-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg07.mx.aol.com (rly-dg07.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.91]) by air-dg06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG063-5dd4af7283436a; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:21:23 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG076-5dd4af7283436a; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:21:10 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7EFE-0000eM-Cd for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:20:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7EFD-0000eD-MI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:20:15 +0000 Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com ([205.188.105.144]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7EFB-0006RK-0m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:20:15 +0000 Received: from imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (imo-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.136]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nA8KJtjo018919 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:19:55 -0500 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id l.c3a.6117a4a0 (30739) for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:19:51 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:19:51 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: F4DTL@aol.com X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: RE: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1257711591" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, LINES_OF_YELLING,LINES_OF_YELLING_2,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1257711591 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Congratulations Chris. =20 =20 F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP _http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/)=20 =20 =20 =20 Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 08/11/2009 19:45:36 Paris, Madrid, =20 james.cowburn@virgin.net a =E9crit : LF It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m. This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 600m /= =20 80m. Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0CF= -=20 No. 998. QSO break-down according to mode: 928 CW, 34 RTTY and 5 QRSS 600m STATIONS My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many= of=20 these go back to the start of the UK 600m allocation in March 2007. Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding=20 beacons). Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of=20 again: G3KZU, G3YHV . . . Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT: G3UNT,=20 G3VTT, G4GDR. . . MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the same=20 stations many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of my total= =20 contacts. My most frequently worked stations are: GW3UEP - 120 G3KEV - 102 M0FMT - 90 G3ZWH - 80 (alas now= =20 SK) G3DXZ - 67 G4GDR - 60 EI0CF/ GI4DPE - 51 M0JXM - 48 G3UNT - 45 G3VTT - 38 CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a=20 cross-band QSO: DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . . and our few EU MF friends are still active: ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . . WSPR ON 600m I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for the WSP= R=20 mode was never achieved for hand sent Morse (CW), which after all is the= =20 mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF marine band. If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stations=20 operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band then I= guess=20 it may be time for me to QSY. 73 Chris G3XIZ -------------------------------1257711591 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= FONT id=3Drole_document color=3D#000000 size=3D2 face=3DArial>
Congratulations Chris.
 
 
 
 
Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 08/11/2009 19:45:36 Paris, Madrid,=20 james.cowburn@virgin.net a =E9crit :
LF

It was a red-letter day today as I achieved=20 my 1000th QSO using 600m.
This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtu= ally=20 all of which were 600m / 80m.

Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with= =20 runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0CF - No. 998.

QSO break-down=20 according to mode:     928 CW,  34 RTTY =20 and   5 QRSS

600m STATIONS

My personal 60= 0m=20 (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many of these go back to=20 the start of the UK  600m allocation in March 2007.
Of these I= have=20 worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding beacons).
Many= =20 stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of again:&= nbsp;=20 G3KZU, G3YHV . . .
Others were once very active but have subsequently= gone=20 QRT:  G3UNT, G3VTT, G4GDR. . .

MOST FREQUENTLY=20 WORKED

With so few active operators it is obvious that one wi= ll=20 work the same stations many times and the top 10 stations account for 70= % of=20 my total contacts.
My most frequently worked stations are:

GW3= UEP -=20 120     G3KEV - 102      M0= FMT -=20 90     G3ZWH  -  80  (alas now=20 SK)
G3DXZ    -   67    = G4GDR=20 -   60      EI0CF/ GI4DPE  -&nbs= p;=20 51   M0JXM - 48
G3UNT    -  =20 45     G3VTT  -   38

CROSS-= BAND=20 AND EU STATIONS

There are a few 'regular' stations who listen= to=20 600m and enjoy a cross-band QSO:
DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE,= G3TVF=20 . . .

and our few EU MF friends are still active:
ON4KTJ, OR7T= and=20 OZ8NJ. . .

WSPR ON 600m

I personally find it sad th= at the=20 present level of enthusiasm for the WSPR mode was never achieved for&nbs= p;=20 hand sent Morse (CW), which after all is the mode which I call to mind= when=20 thinking of the old MF marine band.
If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase la= sts,=20 with more and stronger stations operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segme= nt=20 which is the 600m band then I guess it may be time for me to QSY.
73=20 Chris G3XIZ


 
 
 -------------------------------1257711591-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME104-9c04b012f6b271; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:54:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME064-9c04b012f6b271; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:54:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9zD4-0004eE-QH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:53:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9zD4-0004e5-EK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:53:26 +0000 Received: from mailout03.t-online.de ([194.25.134.81]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9zD3-0007Th-Ts for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:53:26 +0000 Received: from fwd09.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.t-online.de with smtp id 1N9zD2-0001QJ-04; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:53:24 +0100 Received: from e7010 (VgiTYOZFrh5u5wayT6wIETxUhiTK1SEGE6LRkYivkHCSQYJGngKXecwqp-INGY2gn+@[84.147.194.63]) by fwd09.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1N9zCr-20NKVc0; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:53:13 +0100 Message-ID: <001001ca66aa$ff8e26a0$6402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:53:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: VgiTYOZFrh5u5wayT6wIETxUhiTK1SEGE6LRkYivkHCSQYJGngKXecwqp-INGY2gn+ X-TOI-MSGID: df7c3647-cd31-4cbc-bc70-e5530aec7bf4 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001,UPPERCASE_50_75=0.591 Subject: LF: DI2AG WSPR last night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01CA66B3.5F55AD30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01CA66B3.5F55AD30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear MF, mni tnx to all reporters last night: SQ2BXI, GM4SLV, G7JVN, F6C= NI, DJ6LB, PA8SWL, SQ7MPJ, RN3AGC (1896Km, new EU-ODX for me), DB1NN,= PA3FNY, DL4RAJ. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01CA66B3.5F55AD30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear MF,
      = mni tnx to all=20 reporters last night: SQ2BXI, GM4SLV, G7JVN, F6CNI, DJ6LB, PA8SWL, SQ7= MPJ,=20 RN3AGC (1896Km, new EU-ODX for me), DB1NN, PA3FNY, DL4RAJ.
73   Walter  DI2AG /= =20 DJ2LF
 
------=_NextPart_000_000D_01CA66B3.5F55AD30-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc12.mx.aol.com (rly-mc12.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.96]) by air-mc04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC043-dae4aff0e363e7; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:08:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC126-dae4aff0e363e7; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:08:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9OuC-0000dW-IC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:07:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9OuC-0000dN-42 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:07:32 +0000 Received: from mx01.infotech.at ([213.174.240.1]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9OuA-0005xY-KH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:07:32 +0000 Received: from [213.174.255.55] by mx01.infotech.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9Ou9-0006Ow-GW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:07:29 +0100 Message-ID: <4AFF0E3B.90402@inext.at> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:08:27 +0100 From: Oberreiter Oswald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 137kHz grabber in SP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) HalloJacek! your grabber works very good thank you . 73 de ossy oe5odl jn68rd Jacek Lipkowski schrieb: > I've set up a temporary 137kHz grabber. QTH is Warsaw, Poland KO02md. > RX is an ex-DDR EKV03 with a mini-whip active antenna. Currently it is > set for QRSS3. It is in a nice mid-point between active grabbers in DL > and RU. > > The url is http://acid.ch.pw.edu.pl/~sq5bpf/grabber/ > > This area has high qrm, so if you see yourself on the grabber - > congratulations :) > > I will leave it on all night in case anyone is interested, later it > will be avaliable upon request. > > VY 73 > > Jacek / SQ5BPF > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA082-8ca4aff12313d1; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:25:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA094-8ca4aff12313d1; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:25:22 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9PAU-0000qs-Ke for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:24:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9PAU-0000qj-3Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:24:22 +0000 Received: from out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.237]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9PAT-0007lB-Im for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:24:22 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAOqg/kpcGumJ/2dsb2JhbACCT4FqhQ+ESwbEaYQ8BA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,742,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="93585382" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([92.26.233.137]) by out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 14 Nov 2009 20:24:14 +0000 Message-ID: <02d101ca6568$7254e190$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:24:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: VX9mrc Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02CE_01CA6568.7203DB60" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_02CE_01CA6568.7203DB60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable VX9MRC active since 1950 utc beacon on 507.5 CW De g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_02CE_01CA6568.7203DB60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
VX9MRC active since 1950 utc beacon= on 507.5=20 CW
De g3kev
 
------=_NextPart_000_02CE_01CA6568.7203DB60-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (rly-ma06.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.50]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA042-8af4b09b1d72ac; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:49:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA061-8af4b09b1d72ac; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:49:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCKHg-0005hc-9D for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:47:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCKHf-0005hT-Tk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:47:51 +0000 Received: from mx34.mail.ru ([94.100.176.48]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCKHf-0006C3-9v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:47:51 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=1912 helo=EFREMOV) by mx34.mail.ru with asmtp id 1NCKHY-000EhF-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:47:44 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <001201ca6bbd$6ca27ea0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: References: <002301ca6b5d$7f214da0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <8bf118410911221025o2c42e9c3x35576a9d1a9056f5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:47:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: G3YXM qrss10 (qso with SP2KDS) Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dave, I with pleasure. But the transmitter is faulty. I repair. 73 Andrey > That looks very good! > Maybe we could work one day? > > Dave. > > 2009/11/22 Andrey rn3agc > >> Hello Dave, LF, >> Capture last night at 23.32z >> >> 73 Andrey > > > > > -- > G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME054-9a54af4a87ed8; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:51:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME031-9a54af4a87ed8; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:51:44 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6Xdm-00073A-15 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:50:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6Xdl-000731-DW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:50:45 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6Xce-0000xF-GB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:49:37 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 06 Nov 2009 22:50:36 -0000 Received: from p5DD343BB.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO Clemens04) [93.211.67.187] by mail.gmx.net (mp011) with SMTP; 06 Nov 2009 23:50:36 +0100 X-Authenticated: #17214767 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/XhmV9SyrXdmQLxLiXbziPlHiZPNIlnhCD+6bwsj UohNcUHgyW2oz5 Message-ID: <00f101ca5f33$8eb703d0$0201a8c0@Clemens04> From: "Clemens Paul" To: References: <9afca2640911061433l70bfd8ddi30af83033ea5bbec@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 23:50:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.55,0.55 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz WSPR overnight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00ED_01CA5F3B.EEB292B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00ED_01CA5F3B.EEB292B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger, nothing to see/decode from you so far. I'll let my rx stay qrv over night,too. But I'm afraid you're still too weak by maybe ~6dB. 73 Clemens DL4RAJ ----- Original Message ----- From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 11:33 PM Subject: LF: 500kHz WSPR overnight Will leave the 500kHz 1mW ERP WSPR beacon running through the night at 10% TX and we'll see what happens. Any reports, especially from DL or SM would be great. 73s Roger G3XBM -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.52/2484 - Release Date: 11/06/09 07:38:00 ------=_NextPart_000_00ED_01CA5F3B.EEB292B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Roger,
 
nothing to see/decode from you so far= .
I'll let my rx stay qrv over=20 night,too.
But I'm afraid you're still too= weak by maybe=20 ~6dB.
 
73
Clemens
DL4RAJ
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 06, 20= 09 11:33=20 PM
Subject: LF: 500kHz WSPR over= night

Will leave the 500kHz 1mW ERP WSPR beacon running thr= ough the=20 night at 10% TX and we'll see what happens.

Any reports, espe= cially=20 from DL or SM would be great.

73s
Roger G3XBM

--=20
-------------------------------------------------------------http://g3xbm-qrp.blogs= pot.com/
http://www.g3xb= m.co.uk
G3XBM  =20  GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AV= G -=20 www.avg.com
Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.52/2484 -= Release=20 Date: 11/06/09 07:38:00
------=_NextPart_000_00ED_01CA5F3B.EEB292B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (rly-mf02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.172]) by air-mf01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF014-9474b0473321cb; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:20:44 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF025-9474b0473321cb; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:20:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAss8-0005Fq-Fc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:19:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAss8-0005Fh-3y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:19:32 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAss6-0005gS-Fd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:19:32 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A0334C812C for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:19:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 115CD4C80D9 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:19:25 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B0472EC.9020806@online.fr> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:19:24 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: blacksheep X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: LF T/A [137kHz] WD2XGJ last night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Warren , Very good copy of your beacon last night . 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME094-9cf4b0066942a9; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:37:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME083-9cf4b0066942a9; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:37:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9lpu-0001KA-IL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:36:38 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9lpu-0001K1-5L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:36:38 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9lps-0001Mf-NQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 2334 45 mW drive to the antenna .. slight problem zeroing the meter as there is 60 uW of energy coming back in from the atu .... so thats about -10 dB down on the previous level G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "John P-G" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 7:18 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Running mW wspr > > > > Graham wrote: > >> >> Crazy system ..... spot just in from John ! > > > I thought your mW signal was meant to be a challenge, but of course > Roger's already discovered that WSPR will decode signals that you can't > hear, and are often so weak on a waterfall that QRSS3 would be a struggle > (despite what someone here repeatedly fails to comprehend) > > Can you go any lower? > > John > GM4SLV > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb11.mx.aol.com (rly-mb11.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.169]) by air-mb03.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMB033-d3a4b0b9e5c36a; 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boundary="Boundary_(ID_05w64EbD0oCD/7kbGXTJtw)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --Boundary_(ID_05w64EbD0oCD/7kbGXTJtw) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_jbr//rA6hSAI5nn8Ggs+1g)" --Boundary_(ID_jbr//rA6hSAI5nn8Ggs+1g) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi LF capture ODL, strong signal, henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: ODL 24-11.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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Hi LF
capture ODL,
strong signal,
henny pa3cpm
73s
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<001b01ca6b7b$f31c2d60$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: References: <4B080470.21349.E1B42C9@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:58:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: More tests on 136k Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01CA6B7B.E6C06B80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 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(webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D751F3862 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:29:53 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id 093D018056; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:29:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from 121.141-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (121.141-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.247.141.121]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:29:52 +0100 Message-ID: <20091110192952.h8jck4a5wkwgg0s4@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:29:52 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <112811.74996.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001b01ca6225$fcddd970$0617aac0@jimdesk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.247.141.121 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Dennis, WSPR outside the 504.000 - 503.800 segment makes little sense, so a =20 possible QSY can be only 100 Hz or so. But what xtal frequencies do you need to get away from the top end of =20 the band? If you let me know I'll have a look in my xtal-box and if I find some =20 you can use I will be happy to send them to you. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting DENNIS EASTERLING : > Hi Jim > > I was speaking figuratively as you are so near and on my xtl =20 > frequency. My comment was directed at Chris' statment in email =20 > subject1000 QSOs, who also suffers and others who have complained =20 > about beacons in general. In fact the band is often dead for hours =20 > on end and it is nice to find any signal, beacon or QSO, especially =20 > when testing. My point is that is there should be room for both =20 > beacons and QSOs, then follows a suggestion that LFrs may like to =20 > come to some agreement about reserving a section for each mode. > > Hoping I did not offend, 73 Dennis M0JXM > ----- Original Message ----- > From: James Cowburn > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 4:51 PM > Subject: LF: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO > > Hi Dennis > > I did not realize I was causing you QRM. A quick e-mail would have =20 > alerted me to it, rather than me being a =E2=80=9Cpain=E2=80=9D. I=E2= =80=99m happy to work =20 > out a compromise where we operate at separate times or if you =20 > suggest a different frequency for me to work on. Just drop me a line =20 > with your ideas on this. > > With best regards > > > Jim > > > Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS > ________________________________ > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =20 > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of DENNIS =20 > EASTERLING > Sent: 10 November 2009 16:13 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO > > Congratulations Chris. > > Most wspr stations seem to congregate at the top end of the band and =20 > are not too much trouble. Jim G7NKS is the biggest pain as he =20 > sits on my xtl frequency and is so close. Maybe a compromise would =20 > be for people using beacons to keep to one segment of the band =20 > (hopefully not 502.2 kHz -hee) > > 73 Dennis M0JXM > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Chris Osborn > To: LF Group > Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 6:03 PM > Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO > > LF > > It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m. > This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 600m= / 80m. > > Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and =20 > EI0CF - No. 998. > > QSO break-down according to mode: 928 CW, 34 RTTY and 5 QRSS > > 600m STATIONS > > My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and =20 > many of these go back to the start of the UK 600m allocation in =20 > March 2007. > Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding =20 > beacons). > Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard =20 > of again: G3KZU, G3YHV . . . > Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT: G3UNT, =20 > G3VTT, G4GDR. . . > > MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED > > With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the =20 > same stations many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of =20 > my total contacts. > My most frequently worked stations are: > > GW3UEP - 120 G3KEV - 102 M0FMT - 90 G3ZWH - 80 (alas now= SK) > G3DXZ - 67 G4GDR - 60 EI0CF/ GI4DPE - 51 M0JXM - 48 > G3UNT - 45 G3VTT - 38 > > CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS > > There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a =20 > cross-band QSO: > DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . . > > and our few EU MF friends are still active: > ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . . > > WSPR ON 600m > > I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for =20 > the WSPR mode was never achieved for hand sent Morse (CW), which =20 > after all is the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old =20 > MF marine band. > If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger =20 > stations operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the =20 > 600m band then I guess it may be time for me to QSY. > > 73 Chris G3XIZ > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de12.mx.aol.com (rly-de12.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.148]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE054-51d4b03bfb9d0; 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Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:33:51 +0000 Received: from [81.109.247.175] (helo=jimdesk) by know-smtpout-2.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAgv5-0008Bd-TS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:33:48 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: References: <017801ca66fb$0bf91c60$0517aac0@jimdesk> <20091118085815.7282031E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:33:45 -0000 Message-ID: <02ac01ca6832$39e82890$0517aac0@jimdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <20091118085815.7282031E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> Thread-Index: AcpoLaaEa7b9UMVTSgOv0Q6VYiRYnAAAKy4w X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=8RloEfZUAAAA:8 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=NAjYI1cMXw13GntXfi8A:9 a=q5zkz_p8tI4XpMDHV2IA:7 a=sK0Q5MFv77prhU-_cybrQlD6UrAA:4 a=O58u2wXj750A:10 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=wkTAzZ2vfLFfbRJr:21 a=PLH5rTZwQLgkaZ02:21 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Rik That's exactly what mine are. I think it's a mixture of stretching the Pa on the IC735 so its at the edge of its envelope (the radio equivalent of a stick shaker or stall horn on a plane!) and also RF leakage and mains leakage into the soundcard system on the Dell lappy. It's only apparent on Rx and Tx of strong/local signals where the fundamental is so high (>0db) that the first side lobes at -30dB are still within WSPR capture range. It's mainly an issue with reports from M0FMT (his fault for living so close to me...hi hi ) and from M0BMU (his fault for having such a good 500 set up and helping me to get on the band in the first case! Just joking Jim) I can cure it by winding back the power a chunk but then I am limiting myself Dx wise. Last night I received my first transatlantic stations W1xxx and AA1A. I think my antenna mods and good condx really helped. My next challenge is to get >1000km and then T/A as well as doing some more CW QSO's. I will try and get a QSO with Mal perhaps Actually my first challenge is to keep my antennas up in the 30kt wind that is blowing around here today!! With best regards Jim G7NKS Dr. James Cowburn E james.cowburn@virgin.net -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe Sent: 18 November 2009 08:58 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands Hello Jim, LF group, I have noticed "double receptions" of my WSPR signal from a number of stations. When it occurred the ghost signal was always 100Hz higher and was 33-36dB weaker. As the frequency shift and signal strength difference was the same at the different RX stations I conclude that the cause was with me. I think that it is just some AM modulation in the PA caused by the 100Hz ripple of the PSU. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T At 02:13 18/11/2009, you wrote: >Dear Jim LF Group, > >Looking at the sidebands on the G7NKS WSPR signals, mains hum or other noise >by itself is not a sufficient explanation of what is seen. Simply adding >50Hz, 150Hz, etc. noise into the PC audio channel, then feeding the result >into an SSB TX would give unwanted CW at frequencies offset from the SSB >carrier frequency by +/-50Hz, 150Hz and so on, i.e. with the carrier "dial >frequency" at 502.4kHz, unmodulated carriers would appear at 502.45kHz, >502.55kHz and so on, in addition to the WSPR signal at around 503.9kHz. >However, these would probably largely be removed by the SSB filter in the >rig. Instead, we see unwanted sidebands offset from the wanted WSPR signal >frequency by +/- 50Hz, 150Hz, with identical modulation to the wanted >signal. This requires some sort of non-linear process to cause the >intermodulation between the presumed mains noise and the WSPR signal >somewhere in the TX chain. > >One possibility is that intermodulation occurs in the PA. Jim's description >suggests that he is persuading the HF PA in the IC735 to produce output at >500k. At this frequency, the PA linearity may well be poor due to the >impedance matching, coupling, decoupling and feedback components in the PA >being wrong for the frequency, and high flux densities occuring in ferrite >components due to the low operating frequency. But this wouldn't explain why >Jim also gets multiple received signals from a strong station with a clean >signal, which implies some identical noise source and distortion in the >receive path. It would also mean the mains noise getting through the >filtering in the rig somehow. > >A possibility that would explain the unwanted sidebands appearing on both TX >and RX signals is if one of the oscillators in the system has mains noise >sidebands. The sound card clock seems unlikely, since this is just a simple >crystal oscillator. I see the IC735 has some sort of multi-loop PLL >synthesiser, which would certainly be prone to this type of spurious signal, >since any kind of mains noise getting in would modulate the VCO frequencies, >and would probably be the same on transmit and receive. This could be >checked by receiving a clean carrier somewhere around 500kHz, and examining >the audio output using Spec Lab or Argo or similar to see if 50Hz and 150Hz >sidebands are present on the received audio tone. > >Cheers, Jim Moritz >73 de M0BMU > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "James Cowburn" >To: >Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:26 PM >Subject: LF: rule #2 - assumption is the brother of all foul ups > > > > LF > > > > > > > > Sidebands are back! I think its caused by my TX getting hot and bothered > > by > > struggling at 500. From cold it txs 50 watts but this soon drops back to > > around 35, and the sidebands appear. My sigs are better so having the > > txfr > > outside the shack and at the antenna is a vast improvement, but I now need > > to work on the cooling. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (rly-mf07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.177]) by air-mf05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF054-96c4b067edc133; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:35:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF072-96c4b067edc133; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:34:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBRkR-0005d6-B7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:33:55 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBRkQ-0005cx-SD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:33:54 +0000 Received: from web28106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBRkQ-0000Ly-Oj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:33:54 +0000 Received: (qmail 52981 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Nov 2009 11:33:49 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1258716829; bh=FkmGE+WErPWtCijCaXW7S9QzklpWTAWgscWBais5QDc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dm0gK9q8z0QGsuhBSjX2mGV+lwBW/NJAhwCzXyXFLpwfNboqMxnS6FERAxT5AjR5JaeJ9YXmkP3GHjPsS5lJqdboOUN/AqF5i64hqAVfsP2MSqjuKIfKhEvowUiXQt98Hr5STlU3DNkK3990IdH5XOaiTC6N4p+ulcaAlFfKt2Q= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kJq5958ZCD35WNOrYCJOW10XrkkXFCokq/Gv+B/t7pYFfNEER0U3KRIb+ULN4XcwJe1607lG1yOM0g5O/KL0W7fwvrYVtgX+7HgaklHmLk695y3ju52BBykG3JcXV8GelyPDgLuJlCSmWV2u19XKOwqgTdntq+6zAvayfz+LOkc=; Message-ID: <492835.52192.qm@web28106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: RF.zhtcVM1kJY7RKlBfcC5Ln6Q.zggV7f5NsAHOH6rBqHJt_lPBazltQYuYbNSp1XosXFS2XuvSTib9NO3k8LwhySjHyqXMt8sixFyV1wIxyFl3UsHhHKTg6gyUkzVLcvNrUUdqQGCBl7poYKwuTsXZbcyX23RBOvoKJNx4clOCf7uk4Yd6oUKw5Hkqk3ccRAQkkxRcsCHLJOi0Gsf5gDlUal3BajjeITR0rku5XfnVKKGd_8fYGScM.tlZEyRPrBDamFw5rnL_PHD44l7GiCTLtN43ecnWOZlkbfmicfSC6ZbYoz8xUKH7ZavYWt6dF5oFSlcLL0HA- Received: from [86.140.72.176] by web28106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:33:49 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:33:49 -0800 (PST) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <4B05EDBF.6090006@telus.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: 'Sporadic incidents' Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1051627093-1258716829=:52192" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m286.1 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-1051627093-1258716829=:52192 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Scott =A0 So we still treat all these beacon only=A0licenced stations out of North= America=A0as Pirates if they try a two-way QSO, as far as UK experimental= licence holders are concerned....... eh? =A0 Probably our authority is ambivalent so long as we don't operate out of ba= nd as I think some has already said on this reflector. =A0 Thanks for the info and the Canadian insight. =A0 73 es gl petefmt =A0 =A0 =A0 --- On Fri, 20/11/09, Scott Tilley wrote: From: Scott Tilley Subject: LF: 'Sporadic incidents' To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Friday, 20 November, 2009, 1:15 Hi All Industry Canada has ruled... See the 600m Buttulator for the latest emission... Good day eh? Scott VE7TIL CN89dk http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/ =20 --0-1051627093-1258716829=:52192 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Scott
 
So we still treat all these beacon only licenced stations out of= North America as Pirates if they try a two-way QSO, as far as UK exp= erimental licence holders are concerned....... eh?
 
Probably our authority is ambivalent so long as we don't operate out= of band as I think some has already said on this reflector.
 
Thanks for the info and the Canadian insight.
 
73 es gl petefmt
 
 
 

--- On Fri, 20/11/09, Scott Tilley <sthed47= 5@telus.net> wrote:

From: Scott Tilley <sthed475@telus.net><= BR>Subject: LF: 'Sporadic incidents'
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgDate: Friday, 20 November, 2009, 1:15

Hi All

Industry Canada has ruled...

S= ee the 600m Buttulator for the latest emission...

Good day eh?
S= cott
VE7TIL CN89dk
http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/



=20 --0-1051627093-1258716829=:52192-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df12.mx.aol.com (rly-df12.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.25]) by air-df02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF022-5934af9914a2bf; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:14:18 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF122-5934af9914a2bf; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:14:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7tL9-0007Y3-FW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:13:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7tL8-0007Xu-Uo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:13:06 +0000 Received: from smtp817.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.246]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7tKL-0007YK-R7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:12:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 49887 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2009 16:12:59 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=4IDS3RjlbWxoxeAgOLsnQ4oNLfl4UeGEo2dUezCtHaHnjpU/8hA4dVi2oIgi3vpoBQX32OyPzDoWZKifXVLYxbkMSfg3fouppUKyDexlh5rxRdwT4e12y5tzNziF1aBXShxOGuArfAKW8s2G7i43hq3rjpLJjw1OBkWK9EQ23cg= ; Received: from unknown (HELO DennisPC) (dennis.easterling@86.157.175.252 with login) by smtp817.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Nov 2009 16:12:59 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: H_MJu2qswBDkdHeCAZfwexko6VNOiMP5URzYEvz3WrE5v1grQm6fnvJecjM9 X-YMail-OSG: Po9CpUIVM1kyJhFX75sG1MebGUxM6Rs4ND_EWPfrhW72qIup4HS.2ia_XW5.WITzbcEQV3Xi7nw4FIaWOVbjOnkVta.FiIiA5u3trvbVtChv866WVsii3OuainkBaam5Ba3G04GxxrdimwrTwOGstNEZ66_yE.wJKVrYLmELpFqwSa3R8XyQF6VIBD5Nz.Ql0puG1z7_5DIgkIPkZEnwn17kzLqsFe5aQ1DVpJHwNhLzCurG8.bOpkhDjGVDSfxzgTj35oez.qHvKFyL_TiWd7hIxxQczncDkM0P X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "DENNIS EASTERLING" To: References: <112811.74996.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <112811.74996.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:12:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01CA6220.A98A2940" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, LINES_OF_YELLING,LINES_OF_YELLING_2,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01CA6220.A98A2940 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Congratulations Chris. Most wspr stations seem to congregate at the top end of the band and= are not too much trouble. Jim G7NKS is the biggest pain as he sits= on my xtl frequency and is so close. Maybe a compromise would be fo= r people using beacons to keep to one segment of the band (hopefully= not 502.2 kHz -hee) 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Chris Osborn=20 To: LF Group=20 Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 6:03 PM Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO LF It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m= . This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 60= 0m / 80m. Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI= 0CF - No. 998. QSO break-down according to mode: 928 CW, 34 RTTY and 5 QRSS 600m STATIONS My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and= many of these go back to the start of the UK 600m allocation in Marc= h 2007. Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding= beacons). Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard= of again: G3KZU, G3YHV . . . Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT: G3UNT,= G3VTT, G4GDR. . . MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the sa= me stations many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of my= total contacts. My most frequently worked stations are: GW3UEP - 120 G3KEV - 102 M0FMT - 90 G3ZWH - 80 (alas= now SK) G3DXZ - 67 G4GDR - 60 EI0CF/ GI4DPE - 51 M0JXM= - 48 G3UNT - 45 G3VTT - 38 CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a cr= oss-band QSO: DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . . and our few EU MF friends are still active: ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . . WSPR ON 600m I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for th= e WSPR mode was never achieved for hand sent Morse (CW), which after= all is the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF mari= ne band. If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger station= s operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band th= en I guess it may be time for me to QSY. 73 Chris G3XIZ ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01CA6220.A98A2940 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Congratulations Chris.
 
Most wspr stations seem to congregate= at the top=20 end of the band and are not too much trouble.    Jim G7NKS is the biggest pain as he sit= s on my xtl frequency=20 and is so close.   Maybe a compromise would be for people us= ing=20 beacons to keep to one segment of the band (hopefully not 502.2 kHz=20 -hee)
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Chris= Osborn=20
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 20= 09 6:03=20 PM
Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th= MF QSO

LF

It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th= QSO using=20 600m.
This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of whic= h were=20 600m / 80m.

Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3X= PU - No.=20 999 and EI0CF - No. 998.

QSO break-down according to mode:=20     928 CW,  34 RTTY  and   5=20 QRSS

600m=20 STATIONS

My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a tot= al of=20 59 stations and many of the= se go back=20 to the start of the UK  600m allocation in March 2007.
Of th= ese I have=20 worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding beacons).
Ma= ny=20 stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of aga= in: =20 G3KZU, G3YHV . . .
Others were once very active but have subseque= ntly gone=20 QRT:  G3UNT, G3VTT, G4GDR. . .

MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED

With=20 so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the same st= ations=20 many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of my total conta= cts.
My=20 most frequently worked stations are:

GW3UEP -=20 120     G3KEV - 102     = ; M0FMT -=20 90     G3ZWH  -  80  (alas now=20 SK)
G3DXZ    -   67   &nb= sp; G4GDR=20 -   60      EI0CF/ GI4DPE = - =20 51   M0JXM - 48
G3UNT    -  = =20 45     G3VTT  -   38

CROSS-BAND AND EU=20 STATIONS

There are a few 'regular' stations who listen= to 600m=20 and enjoy a cross-band QSO:
DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE,= G3TVF . .=20 .

and our few EU MF friends are still active:
ON4KTJ, OR7T= and=20 OZ8NJ. . .

WSPR ON= =20 600m

I personally find it sad that the present level= of=20 enthusiasm for the WSPR mode was never achieved for  hand sent= Morse=20 (CW), which after all is the mode which I call to mind when thinking= of the=20 old MF marine band.
If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with mo= re and=20 stronger stations operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which= is the 600m=20 band then I guess it may be time for me to QSY.

73 Chris=20 G3XIZ








<= /BLOCKQUOTE> ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01CA6220.A98A2940-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (rly-mf03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.173]) by air-mf01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF014-9524af74815349; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:37:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF038-9524af74815349; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:37:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7GMq-0001Ou-8f for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:36:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7GMp-0001Ol-M4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:36:15 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7GMn-0006wx-9W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:36:15 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so2932120bwz.4 for ; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:36:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.139.143 with SMTP id t15mr817097hbt.92.1257719765139; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:36:05 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [86.180.89.68] In-Reply-To: References: <027601ca60a2$841cd150$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:36:05 +0000 Message-ID: From: PETER CLEALL To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f7252ed402110477e3b353 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001485f7252ed402110477e3b353 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 In addition to what James has said. Use of the WSPR site more fully can eliminate a lot of the uncertainties being discussed If more stations use the WSPR website/database for reporting then more consistency is obtained, or at least the possibility of allowing some calculation and estimates on what is reported. When reporting then you are asked to keep your tx power low and to enter your TX power in the set up window ,so that we all know what it is. Also on the site there is a section where you can describe your station parameters. peter G8AFN 2009/11/8 James Moritz > Dear Mal, LF Group, > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "mal hamilton" > > > > WSPR reports amongst stns indicate reception reports usually minus dB. >> Most of these stations are usually PLUS dB >with me or very close to that >> figure. >> So what does that prove. >> > > It proves the SNR is higher at the output of your receiver than it is at > whatever other stations you are talking about > > > > I would say it depends on the RX antenna and not necessarily propagation. >> > > So how then does the signal reach the RX antenna? Radio wave propagation > has always to be involved somewhere! > > > > A large antenna yields better results than a small loop or active whip. >> > > Not if the small loop or whip are designed to achieve adequate SNR at the > frequency of interest. > > > > When I switch from my 1/4 wave inv L for 500 khz to a smaller 40 m >> resonated loop for 500 the signals then do go >down to a minus db figure. >> So what is all this all ABOUT ? >> > > It is probably about the different directional patterns of the vertical and > loop antennas, resulting in different signal and noise levels at the > receiver, and therefore different values of SNR. Or maybe your loop just > doesn't work very well. > > > > There is also the TX pwr to consider. Two transmitters from the same >> location one using QRO and the other QRP will be >received at different >> levels at a specified RX location. There is a lot of misrepresentation and >> misleading information by >WSPR operator >> > > This applies also to CW or any other type of signal. It is a bit rich for > someone so shy of giving figures for his TX power to suggest others are > being misleading... > > > > A trace of the signal is visible long before a decode takes place, >> therefore why not use QRS in the first place. >> > > Because a trace of signal is just that; a decoded WSPR signal contains > station ID, location, and power information, making it much more useful, > without the operator actually having to watch a computer screen 24 hours a > day. > > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > --001485f7252ed402110477e3b353 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In addition to what James has said.

Use of= the WSPR site more fully can eliminate a lot of the uncertainties being= discussed


If more stations use th= e WSPR website/database for reporting then more consistency is obtained,= or at least the possibility of allowing some calculation and estimates on= what is reported.=A0

When reporting then you are asked to keep your tx powe= r low and to enter your TX power in the set up window ,so that we all know= what it is. Also on the site there is a section where you can describe yo= ur station parameters.


peter G8AFN

<= div>

2009/11/8 James Moritz <james.mor= itz@btopenworld.com>
Dear Mal, LF Group,

----- Original Message ----- From: "mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net= >



WSPR reports amongst stns indicate reception reports usually minus dB. Mos= t of these stations are usually PLUS dB >with me or very close to that= figure.
So what does that prove.

It proves the SNR is higher at the output of your receiver than it is at= whatever other stations you are talking about



I would say it depends on the RX antenna and not necessarily propagation.<= br>

So how then does the signal reach the RX antenna? Radio wave propagation= has always to be involved somewhere!



A large antenna yields better results than a small loop or active whip.

Not if the small loop or whip are designed to achieve adequate SNR at the= frequency of interest.



When I switch from my 1/4 wave inv L for 500 khz to a smaller 40 m resonat= ed loop for 500 the signals then do go >down to a minus db figure.
So what is all this all ABOUT ?

It is probably about the different directional patterns of the vertical an= d loop antennas, resulting in different signal and noise levels at the rec= eiver, and therefore different values of SNR. Or maybe your loop just does= n't work very well.



There is also the TX pwr to consider. Two transmitters from the same locat= ion one using QRO and the other QRP will be >received at different leve= ls at a specified RX location. There is a lot of misrepresentation and mis= leading information by >WSPR operator

This applies also to CW or any other type of signal. It is a bit rich for= someone so shy of giving figures for his TX power to suggest others are= being misleading...



A trace of the signal is visible long before a decode takes place, therefo= re why not use QRS in the first place.

Because a trace of signal is just that; a decoded WSPR signal contains sta= tion ID, location, and power information, making it much more useful, with= out the operator actually having to watch a computer screen 24 hours a day= .


Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU


--001485f7252ed402110477e3b353-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db10.mx.aol.com (rly-db10.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.85]) by air-db07.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDB072-af14b0c319c20f; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:19:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB107-af14b0c319c20f; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:18:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ND0th-0006cv-Qx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:17:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ND0th-0006cm-Ew for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:17:57 +0000 Received: from out1.ip05ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.241]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ND0tg-0003KL-IB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:17:57 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlAHAMm/C0tcGuD//2dsb2JhbACdGLlghDkE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,280,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="111682461" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.26.224.255]) by out1.ip05ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 24 Nov 2009 19:17:48 +0000 Message-ID: <001e01ca6d3a$ce6de600$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000e01ca6d27$45eaac40$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <014501ca6d37$2f8821c0$0517aac0@desktop> <57a24ca70911241107v4b948ac6h9aa5a080f2cee158@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:17:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: RE: SITOR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Warren It seems you are on the ball. Siome strange folks about, and a certain DR does not have a clue !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Ziegler" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 7:07 PM Subject: Re: LF: RE: SITOR James, Relax ! They are looking for a DECODE (not TRANSMIT) program! Most likely to be used for looking at NAVTEX transmissions. -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 1:51 PM, James Cowburn wrote: > IS THIS NOT TANTAMOUNT TO ENCOURAGING WOULD-BE UNATTENDED BEACON APPLIANCE > OPERATORS TO JAM THE BANDS WITH DATA?? > > > > Jim J (tongue firmly in cheek!) > > > > ________________________________ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton > Sent: 24 November 2009 16:58 > To: rsgb > Subject: LF: SITOR > > > > Looking for a good decode prog. > > mal/g3kev > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD104-b634b0271443c4; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:48:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD025-b634b0271443c4; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:47:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAKeN-0001Kn-9H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:47:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAKeM-0001Ke-QJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:47:02 +0000 Received: from mail-px0-f187.google.com ([209.85.216.187]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAKeM-0006I9-0I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:47:02 +0000 Received: by pxi17 with SMTP id 17so4692237pxi.30 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:46:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=K4H8IHqhLA3xItCIHEgJAyZn06lKHxlSQjqwvWX27lI=; b=h4XNFYKjyaTEjIh+JU9mYVgYlfG6gkf4+wN9ApWjVtADZodThzhFmWEpjb1dQOrMxi M2AZt3UNI8m24a+y58mvjDWO0cebAlUFzVBrwc2V4/bTatls9QBQrSGH4tDegW9k44t5 b/en42wSyOcnrObVjuBFBfsjx5CQykmawqlZ0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=FxzKkYazn5BKpJZ4q0Ynqacw7BoIRPMnNaU8xY533FCWU2021hv+T6gFxyKu7pmjK+ N5IxM4cN3lW/r0x0eANAMAYehztexJCc/gt9r1xLBwXocaaNc16TtHxGsMzYGwtgPi2p PloYqRaY2AXJXZ4e6tquceEmmdDokeUJGS78s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.207.20 with SMTP id e20mr531340rvg.135.1258451215145; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:46:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091117081718.BDD6EF3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> References: <1f0624b90911160805u4435bd18ue805924594d8b997@mail.gmail.com> <20091117081718.BDD6EF3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:46:55 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 334fbe7b36aa50a4 Message-ID: <1f0624b90911170146i3b3201abh55b54fd75e56fa50@mail.gmail.com> From: Gary - G4WGT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd299d4a55d2604788e01f8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m207.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0cd299d4a55d2604788e01f8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Rik, Well done. I should be in a position to attempt the same as I saw solid QRS signals from Joe. Gary - G4WGT. 2009/11/17 Rik Strobbe > Gary, All, > > yesterday I could copy VX9MRC in QRSS3 with a surprising strong signal as > early as 18 UTC, when I launched Argo. > Throughout the evening the signal was strong and with little QSB from > 19-22UTC, after that the signal became weaker with much more QSB. > Probably because I had a sked with Joe at 22:40 UTC ;-) . > But despite all we managed to complete the QSO with both way M report > (would have been a solid O earlier the evening). > A first ON-VE QSO on 500kHz and with +/- 4075km a new DX record for me > Joe transmitted on 507.770 and I on 501.190. > Between 19 and 22 UTC the signal was audible most of the time and would > have been CW copy if it were not squeezed between the NDB "Z" carrier at > 507.980 (S9+ here) the SM6BHZ CW/SSB test transmissions (up to S9) and a > local birdie on 507.600. > > For the QSO I was running 300W into my 11m high / 25m long lazy-L antenna, > estimated ERP about 1.5 Watt (at best, if the greenery does not absorb too > much) > > The night from Sunday - Monday I left Argo running, VX9MRC produced a good > signal all through the night and faded out at 07UTC. This would mean that > there is a potential transatlantic path on 500kHz for 13h a day !!! > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > At 17:05 16/11/2009, you wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> Good signals from both stations last night. >> >> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo. >> > > > --000e0cd299d4a55d2604788e01f8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rik,

Well done.

I should be in= a position to attempt the same as I saw solid QRS signals from Joe.
=

Gary - G4WGT.

2009/1= 1/17 Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
Gary, All,

yesterday I could copy VX9MRC in QRSS3 with a surprising strong signal as= early as 18 UTC, when I launched Argo.
Throughout the evening the signal was strong and with little QSB from 19-2= 2UTC, after that the signal became weaker with much more QSB.
Probably because I had a sked with Joe at 22:40 UTC ;-) .
But despite all we managed to complete the QSO with both way M report (wou= ld have been a solid O earlier the evening).
A first ON-VE QSO on 500kHz and with +/- 4075km a new DX record for me
Joe transmitted on 507.770 and I on 501.190.
Between 19 and 22 UTC the signal was audible most of the time and would ha= ve been CW copy if it were not squeezed between the NDB "Z" carr= ier at 507.980 (S9+ here) the SM6BHZ CW/SSB test transmissions (up to S9)= and a local birdie on 507.600.

For the QSO I was running 300W into my 11m high / 25m long lazy-L antenna,= estimated ERP about 1.5 Watt (at best, if the greenery does not absorb to= o much)

The night from Sunday - Monday I left Argo running, =A0VX9MRC produced a= good signal all through the night and faded out at 07UTC. This would mean= that there is a potential transatlantic path on 500kHz for 13h a day !!!<= br>
73, Rik =A0ON7YD - OR7T

At 17:05 16/11/2009, you wrote:
Hi All,

Good signals from both stations last night.

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.



--000e0cd299d4a55d2604788e01f8-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df07.mx.aol.com (rly-df07.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.20]) by air-df04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF042-5604b02f7d82b5; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:22:08 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF071-5604b02f7d82b5; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:22:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NATbb-0005JV-5b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:20:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NATba-0005JM-NG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:20:46 +0000 Received: from qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.48]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NATbY-0001mR-TR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:20:46 +0000 Received: from OMTA20.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.71]) by QMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 6Co91d0061YDfWL55KLckT; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:20:36 +0000 Received: from DELL4 ([76.23.233.102]) by OMTA20.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 6KSf1d0092DDHkk3gKSfUg; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:26:40 +0000 Message-ID: <000501ca67ba$e4817db0$6c01a8c0@DELL4> From: To: Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:19:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.7 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 T/A enthusiasts WE2XGR/2 will beacon in QRSS3 mode tonight on 506.5 kHz from ~ 2130 to ~ 0030 Z. Reports appreciated. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD084-9094b0655582aa; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:38:06 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD061-9094b0655582aa; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:37:51 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBOyv-0004eX-P6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:36:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBOyv-0004eO-Cc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:36:41 +0000 Received: from fmmailgate05.web.de ([217.72.192.243]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBOyt-0005eb-BD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:36:41 +0000 Received: from web.de by fmmailgate05.web.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 05DF25CC9FD9 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:36:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from [91.55.43.191] by freemailng2501.web.de with HTTP; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:36:30 +0100 Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:36:30 +0100 Message-Id: <1493437281@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: =?iso-8859-15?Q?Horst_St=F6cker?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Organization: http://freemail.web.de/ X-Provags-Id: V01U2FsdGVkX18T61hCJeRT+3631Zo8xb66+6iU5LJMGKY1Xf0SUEdUzShsK gT81/14lzi4d6H+uuPnA4wyarvv+IQ0XWMRUSESnWQjGylBdBSvgOSB4LhoN Q== X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Soft Rock for 500 Khz where to buy ?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello, I had the same question and found out: All the softrocks for 500kHz are mo= dified ones. As many I have problems soldering SMD. So I would be glad to find a ready= built 500kHz softrock RX too. For 136kHz I built myself a RX by "Funkamateur" - no problem because no SM= D. It's similar to the softrock. Maybe one could modify this one for 500= kHz too. 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Jetzt freischalten unter http://movieflat.web.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df01.mx.aol.com (rly-df01.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.14]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF072-52b4b03cbf8f5; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:27:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF018-52b4b03cbf8f5; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:27:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAhjm-0001Nq-BN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:26:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAhjl-0001Nh-JW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:26:09 +0000 Received: from web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.123]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAhjl-0006bY-CU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:26:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 39863 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Nov 2009 10:26:03 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1258539963; bh=h9KIKuoznmFtkbQjZ49E6fM4mxhOdLX2WcMXIszqZEM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RoIh5HrI8B6iz+ThnGHbX5mbpq5j8CWfO1FdBUzWyOAipMukLYtlMbS1L+CbPiYcMarR54kqoegKQBqQqn3pfmGmDi/uD+kej9ZogAq3/L63O2jfF7OjpdXQOWuLfJu2hAzMkvmUFNiIRVU6Gj+4pd4QG/1VbucCx7KDUqwQMqg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XQAx9ErbG32qw/qFwV8oQOCuHsYi3SCG1T8EguoYms3qa6atCr/7lVXMd3NEVvlEU5+Vng8AKC48D+/kCLosHy+C3ueFKhbXreOomEDDplHeNPCAS/2jQhrQsdzJ+cE37SKmAZX878OWoyal6YYEB3YHyMsMzvcM3BFw4qXeUVA=; Message-ID: <827574.39630.qm@web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: V3eddiMVM1kViMbn4pFY_PVcUDBDU33ykJhuKm3TnXA9E2XB_1bmSMJALwb7oto7dfsdiqWzUlt6.EgcazTbbB9Yac9ldVlN45CmfFxedlA79DST4p.wwFJ6YE7oSfoRXPUMq7zonRRZnMWbPfFcC5.nXlS3wD3St3uhbnLE7Wv4KxNMwgsUvJ27BvTWSxpJqpjNc8B5szbOhnOSh2LDH3TGtty.o6pi7_u76mjfcnri_MmnmzyFxqVPZwQ1twDn_VEE1gpOdBUl45_C.llxwT5L6gHAVUJL4MloxrstZsbBl3ytrjfqUAF13sAis2PWkl5d9_6w9aZeJWDznXbeBwoWHVKUmA2xvA-- Received: from [86.140.72.194] by web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 02:26:03 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 02:26:03 -0800 (PST) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <02b601ca6833$4e59f6e0$0517aac0@jimdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: RE: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-720041973-1258539963=:39630" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d246.1 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-720041973-1258539963=:39630 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK Jim and LF=20 =A0 Yes when you reduced power from 45w? down to 7w the side bands assuming th= ey were still there but at the same relative level may possibly be=A0unrea= dable by me. 45/7=3D6.4 times reduction 8dB power drop which I think repre= sents -16dB RX strength add that to the say -30dB SB at 45 watts resulting= in, if=A0I have understood this correctly, -46dB side band which is proba= bly below threashold of the Software=A0and I would not see it. I am sure if it was just the fact you had HUM that would not neccessarily= result in IMD there has to be some non linearity for modulation to occur.= =A0The hot PA has to be a clue.=20 =A0 As far as your signal at this QTH goes Jim it is not an issue here I am no= t bothered by your two sidebands at all as you say three for the price of= one ...hee hee. However I cannot think of a simple way to stop me reporti= ng them to the Database other than me closing down.... which may be the so= lution=A0 ... only joking. =A0 73 es GL=A0petefmt=20 --- On Wed, 18/11/09, James Cowburn wrote: From: James Cowburn Subject: RE: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 9:41 Hi Pete =A0 The Rig only gets overly hot on powers over abt 20 watt output and 20%+ du= ty cycle (not to be unexpected given the operation at or beyond the limits= of design). =A0When I run it around 10 to 15 watts and on 10% duty it sta= ys just lightly warm so as far as I can tell there is no discontinuity or= paradox in the ouput/duty/warming matrix!=20 =A0 The sidebands will no doubt be still there, just beyond the limit of detec= tion =A0 =A0 =A0 With best regards =A0 =A0 Jim =A0 =A0 Dr. James Cowburn From: owner- rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner- rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org ] On Behalf Of M0FMT Sent: 18 November 2009 09:27 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands =A0 Hi LF =A0 I think the issue is intermodulation products caused by over driving the= the linear RF stages of the TX into distortion=A0because when Jim reduces= drive the sidebands petty well disappear at this range. These observation= is based upon test carried out yesterday. There is another issue Jim seem= s to have which is that his PA grossly over heats (I think I am right) whe= n he reduces drive and that shouldn't happen. For modulation to take place= the output=A0of the modulator has to be mixed (hetrodyned) with the RF si= gnal. In this case I am guessing that the carrier is modulated by noise (5= 0c/s say) in the non linear (over driven linear RF stages) in the TX drive= r or output. The fact the PA over heats on reduced drive suggests to me the bias on the= PA transistors is being altered by changes to the drive anther indication= that the TX output may not be entirely linear --- On Wed, 18/11/09, James Moritz wrote: From: James Moritz Subject: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 1:13 Dear Jim LF Group, Looking at the sidebands on the G7NKS WSPR signals, mains hum or other noi= se by itself is not a sufficient explanation of what is seen. Simply addin= g 50Hz, 150Hz, etc. noise into the PC audio channel, then feeding the resu= lt into an SSB TX would give unwanted CW at frequencies offset from the SS= B carrier frequency by +/-50Hz, 150Hz and so on, i.e. with the carrier "di= al frequency" at 502.4kHz, unmodulated carriers would appear at 502.45kHz,= 502.55kHz and so on, in addition to the WSPR signal at around 503.9kHz.= However, these would probably largely be removed by the SSB filter in the= rig. Instead, we see unwanted sidebands offset from the wanted WSPR signa= l frequency by +/- 50Hz, 150Hz, with identical modulation to the wanted si= gnal. This requires some sort of non-linear process to cause the intermodu= lation between the presumed mains noise and the WSPR signal somewhere in= the TX chain. One possibility is that intermodulation occurs in the PA. Jim's descriptio= n suggests that he is persuading the HF PA in the IC735 to produce output= at 500k. At this frequency, the PA linearity may well be poor due to the= impedance matching, coupling, decoupling and feedback components in the= PA being wrong for the frequency, and high flux densities occuring in fer= rite components due to the low operating frequency. But this wouldn't expl= ain why Jim also gets multiple received signals from a strong station with= a clean signal, which implies some identical noise source and distortion= in the receive path. It would also mean the mains noise getting through= the filtering in the rig somehow. A possibility that would explain the unwanted sidebands appearing on both= TX and RX signals is if one of the oscillators in the system has mains no= ise sidebands. The sound card clock seems unlikely, since this is just a= simple crystal oscillator. I see the IC735 has some sort of multi-loop PL= L synthesiser, which would certainly be prone to this type of spurious sig= nal, since any kind of mains noise getting in would modulate the VCO frequ= encies, and would probably be the same on transmit and receive. This could= be checked by receiving a clean carrier somewhere around 500kHz, and exam= ining the audio output using Spec Lab or Argo or similar to see if 50Hz an= d 150Hz sidebands are present on the received audio tone. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Cowburn" To: Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:26 PM Subject: LF: rule #2 - assumption is the brother of all foul ups > LF >=20 >=20 >=20 > Sidebands are back!=A0 I think its caused by my TX getting hot and bothe= red by > struggling at 500.=A0 From cold it txs 50 watts but this soon drops back= to > around 35, and the sidebands appear.=A0 My sigs are better so having the= txfr > outside the shack and at the antenna is a vast improvement, but I now ne= ed > to work on the cooling. =A0 =20 --0-720041973-1258539963=:39630 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
OK Jim and LF
 
Yes when you reduced power from 45w? down to 7w the side bands assumi= ng they were still there but at the same relative level may possibly be&nb= sp;unreadable by me. 45/7=3D6.4 times reduction 8dB power drop which I thi= nk represents -16dB RX strength add that to the say -30dB SB at 45 watts= resulting in, if I have understood this correctly, -46dB side band= which is probably below threashold of the Software and I would not= see it.
I am sure if it was just the fact you had HUM that would not neccessa= rily result in IMD there has to be some non linearity for modulation to oc= cur. The hot PA has to be a clue.
 
As far as your signal at this QTH goes Jim it is not an issue here I= am not bothered by your two sidebands at all as you say three for the pri= ce of one ...hee hee. However I cannot think of a simple way to stop me re= porting them to the Database other than me closing down.... which may be= the solution  ... only joking.
 
73 es GL petefmt

--- On Wed, 18/11/09, James Cowburn= <james.cowburn@virgin.net> wrote:

From: James Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.n= et>
Subject: RE: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org
Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 9:41

Hi Pete

 =

The Rig only gets ov= erly hot on powers over abt 20 watt output and 20%+ duty cycle (not to be= unexpected given the operation at or beyond the limits of design).  = When I run it around 10 to 15 watts and on 10% duty it stays just lightly= warm so as far as I can tell there is no discontinuity or paradox in the= ouput/duty/warming matrix!

 =

The sidebands will= no doubt be still there, just beyond the limit of detection=

 =

 =

 =

With best regards

=  

=  

Jim

=  

=  

Dr. James Cowburn

From:= owner- rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner- rsgb_lf_group@= blacksheep.org ] On Behalf Of = M0FMT
Sent: 18 Nove= mber 2009 09:27
To: rsg= b_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject:= Re: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands

 

Hi LF

 

I think the issue is intermodulation products caused= by over driving the the linear RF stages of the TX into distortion b= ecause when Jim reduces drive the sidebands petty well disappear at this= range. These observation is based upon test carried out yesterday. There= is another issue Jim seems to have which is that his PA grossly over heat= s (I think I am right) when he reduces drive and that shouldn't happen. Fo= r modulation to take place the output of the modulator has to be mixe= d (hetrodyned) with the RF signal. In this case I am guessing that the car= rier is modulated by noise (50c/s say) in the non linear (over driven line= ar RF stages) in the TX driver or output.

The fact the PA over heats on reduced drive suggests= to me the bias on the PA transistors is being altered by changes to the= drive anther indication that the TX output may not be entirely linear
=
--- On Wed, 18/11/09, James Morit= z <james.moritz@btopenworld.com&g= t; wrote:


From: James Moritz &l= t;james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
Subject: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands
= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 1:= 13

Dear Jim LF Group,
Looking at the sidebands on the G7NKS WSPR signals, mains hum or other no= ise by itself is not a sufficient explanation of what is seen. Simply addi= ng 50Hz, 150Hz, etc. noise into the PC audio channel, then feeding the res= ult into an SSB TX would give unwanted CW at frequencies offset from the= SSB carrier frequency by +/-50Hz, 150Hz and so on, i.e. with the carrier= "dial frequency" at 502.4kHz, unmodulated carriers would appear at 502.45= kHz, 502.55kHz and so on, in addition to the WSPR signal at around 503.9kH= z. However, these would probably largely be removed by the SSB filter in= the rig. Instead, we see unwanted sidebands offset from the wanted WSPR= signal frequency by +/- 50Hz, 150Hz, with identical modulation to the wan= ted signal. This requires some sort of non-linear process to cause the int= ermodulation between the presumed mains noise and the WSPR signal somewhere in the TX chain.
One possibility is that intermodulation occurs in the PA. Jim's desc= ription suggests that he is persuading the HF PA in the IC735 to produce= output at 500k. At this frequency, the PA linearity may well be poor due= to the impedance matching, coupling, decoupling and feedback components= in the PA being wrong for the frequency, and high flux densities occuring= in ferrite components due to the low operating frequency. But this wouldn= 't explain why Jim also gets multiple received signals from a strong stati= on with a clean signal, which implies some identical noise source and dist= ortion in the receive path. It would also mean the mains noise getting thr= ough the filtering in the rig somehow.

A possibility that would exp= lain the unwanted sidebands appearing on both TX and RX signals is if one= of the oscillators in the system has mains noise sidebands. The sound car= d clock seems unlikely, since this is just a simple crystal oscillator. I see the= IC735 has some sort of multi-loop PLL synthesiser, which would certainly= be prone to this type of spurious signal, since any kind of mains noise= getting in would modulate the VCO frequencies, and would probably be the= same on transmit and receive. This could be checked by receiving a clean= carrier somewhere around 500kHz, and examining the audio output using Spe= c Lab or Argo or similar to see if 50Hz and 150Hz sidebands are present on= the received audio tone.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

=
----- Original Message ----- From: "James Cowburn" <james.cowburn@virgin.net>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:26 PM
Subject: LF: rule #2 - assumption is the bro= ther of all foul ups


> LF
>
>
>
>= Sidebands are back!  I think its caused by my TX getting hot and bot= hered by
> struggling at 500.  From cold it txs 50 watts but th= is soon drops back to
> around 35, and the sidebands appear. = My sigs are better so having the txfr
> outside the shack and at th= e antenna is a vast improvement, but I now need
> to work on the coo= ling.

 


=20 --0-720041973-1258539963=:39630-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD013-b734af761961d6; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:26:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD045-b734af761961d6; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:26:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7I3u-0002Ih-LD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:24:50 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7I3t-0002IY-Mi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:24:49 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.55]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7I3r-0007SI-2g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:24:49 +0000 Received: from edmwaa01.telusplanet.net ([75.157.140.241]) by priv-edmwes33.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091109002445.WZFR25474.priv-edmwes33.telusplanet.net@edmwaa01.telusplanet.net> for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:24:45 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.67] (d75-157-140-241.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.140.241]) by edmwaa01.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 51662375A7889C1D for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:24:44 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4AF7614C.60207@telus.net> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:24:44 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <027601ca60a2$841cd150$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <020b01ca60a9$4495adc0$0201a8c0@Clemens04> <029701ca60af$4f444d20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <4AF73120.6070007@telus.net> <02c801ca60c6$aa5e0540$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <02c801ca60c6$aa5e0540$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hey Mal 80 or 40m for HF QRG? Scott mal hamilton wrote: > > > Sri Scott > I do not use beacon mode only QSO mode. If you want to try xband let > me know your QRG on HF. I have worked VE7 on every band from 1.8 - 28 > Mcs. Only CW or QRS3 tx this end. > > > 73 de mal/g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" > To: > Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 8:59 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: WSPR > > >> Hey Mal >> >> Would you consider firing up a QRSS beacon for a couple of hours before >> and during your sunrise in the NA waterhole 137778.0Hz +/- 3Hz? >> >> DCF39 has been audible for the last couple of nights and it may be our >> time to get a signal from EU into the west coast of NA. I'd like to see >> how the path works while open and see whether there is a possibility of >> QSO in the future. >> >> Here's your chance at another first... >> >> TU es 73 >> Scott >> >> >> mal hamilton wrote: >>> Two points >>> >>> Why waste 2.4 kHz when QRS only needs a few Hz with a better S/N ratio. >>> >>> You agree that a faint trace is visible. If this faint trace was QRS >>> mode only a few Hz bandwidth would be necessary to read the >>> intellegence and the signal/noise would be superior. >>> G3KEV >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clemens Paul" >>> To: >>> Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 7:23 PM >>> Subject: LF: Re: WSPR >>> >>> >>>> Mal, >>>> >>>>> WSPR reports amongst stns indicate reception reports usually minus >>>>> dB. Most of these >>>>> stations are usually PLUS >>>>> dB with me or very close to that figure. >>>> >>>> WSPR refers the indicated SNR to a BW of 2,4kHz. >>>> So if your receiving BW is say 100Hz your actual SNR is better by >>>> ~14dB than WSPR >>>> reports. >>>> >>>>> A trace of the signal is visible long before a decode takes place, >>>>> therefore why >>>>> not use QRS in >>>> >the first place. >>>> >>>> This may be an issue of your RX/soundcard setup. >>>> I can assure you that with my Perseus SDR RX,set to a RBW of less >>>> than one Hertz >>>> for the display,I can decode every WSPR signal which shows even only >>>> a faint trace on >>>> the waterfall diagram. >>>> At least this is my experience so far. >>>> >>>> 73 >>>> Clemens >>>> DL4RAJ >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: mal hamilton >>>> To: rsgb >>>> Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 7:37 PM >>>> Subject: LF: WSPR >>>> >>>> >>>> WSPR reports amongst stns indicate reception reports usually minus >>>> dB. Most of these stations >>>> are usually PLUS dB with me or very close to that figure. >>>> So what does that prove. I would say it depends on the RX antenna and >>>> not necessarily >>>> propagation. A large antenna yields better results than a small loop >>>> or active whip. >>>> When I switch from my 1/4 wave inv L for 500 khz to a smaller 40 m >>>> resonated loop for 500 the >>>> signals then do go down to a minus db figure. >>>> So what is all this all ABOUT ? >>>> There is also the TX pwr to consider. Two transmitters from the same >>>> location one using QRO >>>> and the other QRP will be received at different levels at a specified >>>> RX location. There is a >>>> lot of misrepresentation and misleading information by WSPR operator >>>> A trace of the signal is visible long before a decode takes place, >>>> therefore why not use QRS >>>> in the first place. >>>> >>>> G3KEV >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>> Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.55/2489 - Release Date: >>>> 11/08/09 07:37:00 >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.55/2489 - Release Date: >>> 11/08/09 07:37:00 >>> >>> >>> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.55/2489 - Release Date: > 11/08/09 07:37:00 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de06.mx.aol.com (rly-de06.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.142]) by air-de06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE063-4df4b09e85f1cb; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:42:08 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE062-4df4b09e85f1cb; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:41:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCNv2-00079G-2U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:40:44 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCNv1-000797-6g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:40:43 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s29.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.40]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCNuz-0007G4-A8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:40:43 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W27 ([65.55.116.7]) by blu0-omc1-s29.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:40:33 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [138.32.254.21] From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China To: Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:40:33 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <006101ca6bd9$9ab3cb70$0900a8c0@lark> References: <4B09D502.8030200@toya.net.pl>,<006101ca6bd9$9ab3cb70$0900a8c0@lark> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Nov 2009 01:40:33.0231 (UTC) FILETIME=[F267BDF0:01CA6BDD] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_7fbe74eb-3bca-40c4-8e34-0f40c66c5f3c_" Subject: RE: LF: Re: N-turn TX Loop X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_7fbe74eb-3bca-40c4-8e34-0f40c66c5f3c_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yep Ive just been discussed this with John TAG trying to recall what we ha= ve did- as ever my files are back in Alaska and Im here..=20 =20 I did "try" 2T (the loop was 4 large conductors in parallel separated betw= een metres on the vertical and top horizontal sections and about 5 Cms on= the lower horizontals) - the results did not give an improvement in far= field or local mobile field measurements, but, I did not fully investigat= e the other losses - my total loop current did decrease, and other losses= would indicate that this negated any "gain" perceived or otherwise... =20 Ive been racking my brains and as far as I can remember a single turn I re= alized around 49A loop current and 2T around 33A fully matched using the= "M0BMU scopematch" for around 1Kw into the loop. =20 Im sure there is more... =20 Laurence in BY3A =20 > From: alan.melia@btinternet.com > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:09:24 +0000 > Subject: LF: Re: N-turn TX Loop >=20 > Hi Piotr I think Laurence KL1X had 2 turns in Oklahoma.(about 100m > periphery) > I think there are other loss problems as you increase the turns. Jim M0B= MU > is the expert on that. >=20 > Alan G3NYK >=20 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Piotr M=B3ynarski" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 12:19 AM > Subject: LF: N-turn TX Loop >=20 >=20 > > Dear LF group, > > I would like to put for your consideration the issue of > > multi-turn transmitting loops. Have you ever done such an experiment= on > > LF ? > > This sunday evening i decided to do some simple math and it turns out > > that such a N-turn TX loop should work ( at least on the paper) > > The radiation resistance is proportional to the square of so called > > "effective > > height" and this last term can be easily derived for a loop i.e. it is > > equal to > > 2*pi*A*N/lambda where A denotes area closed by a loop a N is the numbe= r > > of turns > > so the radiation resistance for a single turn loop reads as > > 320*pi^4*A^2/lambda^4 > > For the N-turns the radiation resistance obtained for a single turn is > > multiplied > > by N^2. Ok, the R (ac) is increased as we increase N but this is linea= r > > with respect to N > > and therefore we should have gain in the radiated power. > > (there is an implicit assumption made: the loop is "small" i.e. the > > current is constant) > > > > i did some calculations: assumed TX power ( and later, perfect match= to > > the loop) 200 Watt > > environmental loss: 1.5 Ohm, diameter of the wire d =3D 3 mm, rectangu= lar > > shape of the loop > > i.e 10 meters by 20 meters ( less optimal than square or circle ) > > so A =3D 200 sq.m For N =3D1 (classical tx loop) we get R(AC) =3D 0.62= Ohm > > ( Rac formula taken from ARRL Antenna Handbook, f =3D 137.7kHz) > > radiation resistance RRAD =3D 55.5 microOhm, total R loss =3D 2.12 Ohm= , > > efficiency is 0.0026% and radiated pwr 5.2 miliWatts, I =3D 9.7 Amp. > > Next, I took N =3D3 so the wire length is changed from 60 meters to 18= 0, > > everything else was kept the same and now one gets: R(ac)=3D 1.85 Ohm= so > > R loss =3D 3.35 Ohm > > RRAD =3D 499.5 microOhm, efficiency increased to 0.015% and radiated= pwr > > abt 30 miliWatt, I=3D7.7 Amp > > I am sorry bothering you but i simply would like to learn > > where is the 'catch' here - if there is one ... > > I guess the assumed loop i.e. 10 by 20 mters is 'reasonable' as TX ant= enna > > i took these values after reading the article about > > WD2XES first TX loop: 40 feet by 65 feet - well , almost the same > > dimensions.. :) > > From practical reasons the N values will likely be small , say, 2 or= 3 > > but as the above numbers show maybe it is worth doing it. > > > > 73 de Piotr, sq7mpj > > qth: Lodz /jo91rs/ > > >=20 >=20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=3DPID24727::T= :WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009v2=3D --_7fbe74eb-3bca-40c4-8e34-0f40c66c5f3c_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yep Ive just been discussed this with John TAG trying to recall what= we have did- as ever my files are back in Alaska and Im here.. 
 
I did "try" 2T (the loop was 4 large conductors in parallel separated betw= een metres on the vertical and top horizontal sections and about 5 Cm= s on the lower horizontals) - the results did not give an improvement in= far field or local mobile field measurements, but, I did not fully= investigate the other losses - my total loop current did decrease, a= nd other losses would indicate that this negated any "gain" perceived= or otherwise...
 
Ive been racking my brains and as far as I can remember a single turn= I realized around 49A loop current and 2T around 33A fully matched using= the "M0BMU scopematch" for around 1Kw into the loop.
 
Im sure there is more...
 
Laurence in BY3A
 
> From: alan.melia@btinternet.com> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:0= 9:24 +0000
> Subject: LF: Re: N-turn TX Loop
>
> Hi Pio= tr I think Laurence KL1X had 2 turns in Oklahoma.(about 100m
> perip= hery)
> I think there are other loss problems as you increase the tu= rns. Jim M0BMU
> is the expert on that.
>
> Alan G3NYK<= BR>>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Piotr M=B3yna= rski" <sq7mpj@toya.net.pl>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org>
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 12:19 AM
> Subject:= LF: N-turn TX Loop
>
>
> > Dear LF group,
>= > I would like to put for your consideration the issue of
> >= multi-turn transmitting loops. Have you ever done such an experiment on> > LF ?
> > This sunday evening i decided to do some sim= ple math and it turns out
> > that such a N-turn TX loop should= work ( at least on the paper)
> > The radiation resistance is pr= oportional to the square of so called
> > "effective
> >= height" and this last term can be easily derived for a loop i.e. it is> > equal to
> > 2*pi*A*N/lambda where A denotes area clos= ed by a loop a N is the number
> > of turns
> > so the= radiation resistance for a single turn loop reads as
> > 320*pi^= 4*A^2/lambda^4
> > For the N-turns the radiation resistance obtai= ned for a single turn is
> > multiplied
> > by N^2. Ok,= the R (ac) is increased as we increase N but this is linear
> >= with respect to N
> > and therefore we should have gain in the= radiated power.
> > (there is an implicit assumption made: the= loop is "small" i.e. the
> > current is constant)
> >> > i did some calculations: assumed TX power ( and later, perfect= match to
> > the loop) 200 Watt
> > environmental loss:= 1.5 Ohm, diameter of the wire d =3D 3 mm, rectangular
> > shape= of the loop
> > i.e 10 meters by 20 meters ( less optimal than= square or circle )
> > so A =3D 200 sq.m For N =3D1 (classical= tx loop) we get R(AC) =3D 0.62 Ohm
> > ( Rac formula taken from= ARRL Antenna Handbook, f =3D 137.7kHz)
> > radiation resistance= RRAD =3D 55.5 microOhm, total R loss =3D 2.12 Ohm,
> > efficienc= y is 0.0026% and radiated pwr 5.2 miliWatts, I =3D 9.7 Amp.
> >= Next, I took N =3D3 so the wire length is changed from 60 meters to 180,<= BR>> > everything else was kept the same and now one gets: R(ac)=3D= 1.85 Ohm so
> > R loss =3D 3.35 Ohm
> > RRAD =3D 499.5= microOhm, efficiency increased to 0.015% and radiated pwr
> > ab= t 30 miliWatt, I=3D7.7 Amp
> > I am sorry bothering you but i sim= ply would like to learn
> > where is the 'catch' here - if there= is one ...
> > I guess the assumed loop i.e. 10 by 20 mters is= 'reasonable' as TX antenna
> > i took these values after reading= the article about
> > WD2XES first TX loop: 40 feet by 65 feet= - well , almost the same
> > dimensions.. :)
> > From= practical reasons the N values will likely be small , say, 2 or 3
>= > but as the above numbers show maybe it is worth doing it.
> &g= t;
> > 73 de Piotr, sq7mpj
> > qth: Lodz /jo91rs/
>= ; >
>
>

Windows 7:= It works the way you want. Learn more. =3D --_7fbe74eb-3bca-40c4-8e34-0f40c66c5f3c_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD074-90a4b0026423a0; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:03:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD062-90a4b0026423a0; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:03:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9hYW-0007Rf-GT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:02:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9hYW-0007RW-4p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:02:24 +0000 Received: from out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.243]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9hYV-0001dZ-Kr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:02:24 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AugEAMe0/0pOlMUA/2dsb2JhbACCIyyBaoUPhEwGw3CEPAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,746,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="226358802" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.197.0]) by out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 15 Nov 2009 16:02:18 +0000 Message-ID: <041d01ca660d$05809000$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:02:23 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: QSL CARDS Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_041A_01CA660D.051EE800" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_041A_01CA660D.051EE800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If the stns below see this msg your QSL cards for LF and MF qso's hav= e been dispatched 1st class. Your cards have been received. JH0BBE , YO2IS and OK2BVG de Mal/G3KEV =20 ------=_NextPart_000_041A_01CA660D.051EE800 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_041A_01CA660D.051EE800-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB062-ab64b01950015f; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:08:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB034-ab64b01950015f; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:08:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA5xY-00079L-Gl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:05:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA5xX-00079C-7s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:05:51 +0000 Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA5xF-0001xF-VA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:05:51 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-2.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.2]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091116180447.WZIG27507.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-2.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:04:47 +0000 Received: from [81.109.247.175] (helo=jimdesk) by know-smtpout-2.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA5wU-0000Vi-MT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:04:47 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: References: <6384450D523443C29C5BD75742F335FF@AGB> <770459.83537.qm@web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:04:43 -0000 Message-ID: <014101ca66e7$478c5c60$0517aac0@jimdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <770459.83537.qm@web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Thread-Index: Acpm5rintk99u+JSSr2OivhfFT7XmAAAG1oA X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=KX6Di794JXYQ1cf20cwA:9 a=Ujd8m4CYzsM_2ElV9U8A:7 a=lwCNhub0gGmjbv7mDJIFofRBhlEA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=1Xh5Z095NRPkv7VNXNkA:7 a=DOigZoD7Ln2tBPna29lgY3olRSEA:4 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: Jim's fixed it! WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0142_01CA66E7.478C5C60" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN, HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0142_01CA66E7.478C5C60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit May have spoken too soon, was fiddling with input levels on last tx and got a few extras. May be partly also due to overdrive. Will turn wick down on next set With best regards Jim Dr. James Cowburn _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of M0FMT Sent: 16 November 2009 17:54 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Jim's fixed it! WSPR Looking good Jim 73 petefmt ------=_NextPart_000_0142_01CA66E7.478C5C60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

May have spoken= too soon, was fiddling with input levels on last tx and got a few extras.  May be partly= also due to overdrive.  Will turn wick down on next set

 

With best regar= ds

 

 

Jim=

 

 

Dr. James Cowbu= rn

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org [mailto:owner-= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of M0FMT
Sent: 16 November 2009= 17:54
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Jim's fixe= d it! WSPR

 

 

Looking good Jim

 

73 petefmt

 

------=_NextPart_000_0142_01CA66E7.478C5C60-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de06.mx.aol.com (rly-de06.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.142]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE022-4df4afbc66d2e3; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:25:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE062-4df4afbc66d2e3; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:25:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8Uye-0005t2-Bt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:24:24 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8Uyd-0005st-Tq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:24:23 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8Uyb-0002F6-0C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:24:23 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.4] (rx1.twatt.home [192.168.1.4]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 088F73B448 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:24:20 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4AFBC633.9000402@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:24:19 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <789669B7117F49968285748B0E5D9871@AGB> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 2009-11-09 09:12 G4JNT 0.503849 -23 0 IO90iv 0.2 K1JT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Andy, LF, I've never been comfortable with K1JT spots, especially on MF, given the software's default settings have his callsign and grid square. Digging deeper in the WSPRnet log shows that at the same time as the spot of G4JNT on 500kHz there are lots of spots from K1JT on 10MHz. While this isn't conclusive (I often monitor 2 bands at once) what is more suspicious is that all the 30m spots are reported with the grid of FN20qi (presumably the correct 6-fig grid for the real K1JT) and the spot of Andy on 500kHz is only 4-figs FN20 This might point to it being a "forgot to change the defaults" spot by A.N.Other? However!! Looking at all K1JT's spots on VLF/LF shows that he's received BHZ (again with the 4-fig FN20 grid) and many of W22XGR and W32XGR (with the same 4-fig FN20) - these XGR spots are with very good S/N ratios, which might indicate that it's genuinely the real K1JT and that his MF version of WSPR is set to report only with the 4-fig grid square. So - unless you can ask Joe himself, it looks like I'd accept them as genuine? There aren't any other obviously erroneous K1JT spots in the database that I can see over the recent past (ie simultaneous spots on multiple bands indicating there are several phantom K1JT's out there). Cheers, John GM4SLV Andy Talbot wrote: > I queried a few instances on this some months ago, and several stations > sugegsted the log was genuine. They're in the database, and can be found by > searching with callsign and reporter filters set. Those roughly coincided > with being heard by A1AA, which is more likely to be genuine. > >> >> 2009-11-09 09:12 >> G4JNT 0.503849 -23 0 IO90iv 0.2 K1JT FN20 5599 288 >> >> At 09-12 ... amazing ! >> >> G .. >> >> >> >> >> > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df09.mx.aol.com (rly-df09.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.22]) by air-df02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF022-57a4afab4b4231; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:57:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF097-57a4afab4b4231; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:57:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8Ck6-0002Dd-SI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:56:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8Ck6-0002DU-D1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:56:10 +0000 Received: from relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net ([212.159.7.36]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8CjM-0005Jm-NT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:55:26 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq8LAKZD+kpUXebz/2dsb2JhbACBSYMqhW6GarlGkQuBMII4VAQ Received: from relay02.plus.net ([84.93.230.243]) by relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 11 Nov 2009 12:56:01 +0000 Received: from [212.159.90.113] (helo=Hugh) by relay02.plus.net with smtp (Exim) id 1N8Cjw-0003GZ-Pe for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:56:00 +0000 Message-ID: <31E46023A2704DF8A4431C0B44BAE495@Hugh> From: "Hugh_m0wye" To: References: <001101ca621e$dcdc3380$96949a80$@princeton.edu> <20091110192309.4v8agotbs0k0gocs@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <004a01ca6249$d91531e0$8b3f95a0$@princeton.edu> <20091110222951.cr4qtrqagcwcowok@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <4AFAAE9C.1070304@ukonline.co.uk> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:55:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Plusnet-Relay: 2e73d02b17398fa8b75164463e9e4874 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: LF: Re: Ferrite characteristics Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Peter, In the past I have wound a few turns aound the core and measured the Inductance. From this you can calculate the AL value, or "Inductance Factor" in nH per turns squared. I measured the Inductance on an LCR meter, but you could resonate the coil against a capacitor and use a GDO as you suggest. Number of turns = square root of (L / AL) where L is inductance in nH. >From this you can compare to published figures, for example the RM series of Ferrite cores (RS used to publish tables which included the AL value, in their catalogues) 73 Hugh M0WYE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Dodd" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 12:31 PM Subject: LF: Ferrite characteristics > Does anyone know of a method of measuring the characteristics > (permeability) of ferrite cores? I have a box of these most without any > identification although I do have T200, 68-2T and T68-2s whose > characteristics are known. > > It occurs to me that you can make a tuned circuit and measure resonance > with a GDO when a ferrite core is inserted into the inductance. A graph > could be made of the different resonances with different cores, to > extrapolate the unknowns. > > However I think that ferrite bulk might be a problem. For example I guess > the red T cores use the same material but would there be a difference > between the T200 and the T68? > > I have lots of material about ferrites in general - I just want to know > what I have in my junk box. I am not interested in exact measurements, I > just want to know if a core is suitable for a specific job. > > Regards > > Peter, G3LDO > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD043-9124b0446f8122; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:12:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD072-9124b0446f8122; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:11:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NApvc-0003sm-QE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:10:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NApvc-0003sd-3Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:10:56 +0000 Received: from smtp6.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.191]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NApva-0004H1-6i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:10:56 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3616.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 60F1B7000088 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:10:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3616.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 544077000089 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:10:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.63.163]) by mwinf3616.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id C0B857000088 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:10:46 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091118191046789.C0B857000088@mwinf3616.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <1519387EC57944BE82527527C2D6184D@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <590EA4755AB54809BC2887F55D65D99A@AGB> <9afca2640911181055y33bb49e4q7707d46e339826b0@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9afca2640911181055y33bb49e4q7707d46e339826b0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:10:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: Re: LF: T61AA 0.503929 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0099_01CA6882.D4B55050" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01CA6882.D4B55050 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To quote ' This is not a drill .. This is the real thing '..=20 Is your RX on ?=20 G ... =20 T61AA Ross B Shasdarak Kabul,=20 Afghanistan 2009-11-18 18:14 T61AA 0.503929 -16 0 MM36nq 10 S5= 1CN JN65tm 4503 300 =20 2009-11-18 18:08 T61AA 0.503929 -20 0 MM36nq 10 = S51CN JN65tm 4503 300 =20 2009-11-18 17:58 T61AA 0.503929 -14 0 MM36nq 10 = S51CN JN65tm 4503 300 =20 2009-11-18 17:48 T61AA 0.503929 -13 1 MM36nq 10 = S51CN JN65tm 4503 300 =20 2009-11-18 17:38 T61AA 0.503928 -23 1 MM36nq 10 = S51CN JN65tm 4503 300 =20 2009-11-18 17:30 T61AA 0.503929 -15 1 MM36nq 10 = S51CN JN65tm 4503 300 =20 2009-11-18 17:24 T61AA 0.503929 -13 0 MM36nq 10 = S51CN JN65tm 4503 300 =20 2009-11-18 17:16 T61AA 0.503929 -22 1 MM36nq 10 = S51CN JN65tm 4503 300 =20 From: Roger Lapthorn=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 6:55 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: T61AA 0.503929 If only. 2009/11/18 Graham 2009-11-18 17:48 T61AA 0.503929 -13 1 MM36nq 10 = S51CN JN65tm 4503 300 =20 Now thats something you dont normally see ! G .. --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01CA6882.D4B55050 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
To quote ' This is  not a drill= .. This is=20 the  real thing '..
 
Is your  RX on ?
 
G ... 
 

T61AA  Ross B<= /P>

Shasdarak   Kabul,

Afghanistan

 

2009-11-18 18:14   T61AA   0.503929   -16   0   MM36nq   10   S51CN   JN65tm   4503   300 
 2009-11-18 18:08   T61AA   0.503929   -20   0   MM36nq   10   S51CN   JN65tm   4503   300 
 2009-11-18 17:58   T61AA   0.503929   -14   0   MM36nq   10   S51CN   JN65tm   4503   300 
 2009-11-18 17:48   T61AA   0.503929   -13   1   MM36nq   10   S51CN   JN65tm   4503   300 
 2009-11-18 17:38   T61AA   0.503928   -23   1   MM36nq   10   S51CN   JN65tm   4503   300 
 2009-11-18 17:30   T61AA   0.503929   -15   1   MM36nq   10   S51CN   JN65tm   4503   300 
 2009-11-18 17:24   T61AA   0.503929   -13   0   MM36nq   10   S51CN   JN65tm   4503   300 
 2009-11-18 17:16   T61AA   0.503929   -22   1   MM36nq   10   S51CN   JN65tm   4503   300 

 
 
 

Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: LF: T61AA 0.503929

If only.

2009/11/18 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk><= /SPAN>
2009-11-18 17:48   T61AA   0.503929   -13   1   MM36nq   10   S51CN   JN65tm   4503   300 
 
Now thats something  you  dont  normally = see !
 
G ..





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------=_NextPart_000_0099_01CA6882.D4B55050-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA084-a7d4afc2da7212; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:46:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA075-a7d4afc2da7212; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:45:45 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8bq1-0006y7-Le for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:43:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8bq1-0006xy-AE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:43:57 +0000 Received: from out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.240]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8bpP-0007DL-Bt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:43:20 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArkEAE+8+0pOkJgj/2dsb2JhbACCUYFqhQ+EUAbPLoQ8BIFs X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,728,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="81084555" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.152.35]) by out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 12 Nov 2009 15:43:44 +0000 Message-ID: <00f201ca63ae$ee6360b0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:43:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: DX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00EF_01CA63AE.EDE9C3E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00EF_01CA63AE.EDE9C3E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Any dx watchers/listeners about tonite? I will be qrv on CW and QRS3= later. QRG 502.57 and QSX 7033=20 de Mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_00EF_01CA63AE.EDE9C3E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Any dx watchers/listeners about tonit= e? I will be=20 qrv on CW and QRS3 later.
QRG 502.57 and QSX 7033
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------=_NextPart_000_00EF_01CA63AE.EDE9C3E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da01.mx.aol.com (rly-da01.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.75]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA094-a4a4af2bce83c8; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:54:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA012-a4a4af2bce83c8; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:54:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N60u3-0001gr-F4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:53:23 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N60u3-0001gi-3e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:53:23 +0000 Received: from mx01.infotech.at ([213.174.240.1]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N60so-00036v-J7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:52:07 +0000 Received: from [213.174.255.68] by mx01.infotech.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N60u0-00033Z-T8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:53:21 +0100 Message-ID: <4AF2BCDD.3090606@inext.at> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:54:05 +0100 From: Oberreiter Oswald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C6EE3533@exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net> In-Reply-To: <254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C6EE3533@exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Who on +/-137.710KHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hallo Marco ! habe mal den tx laufen lassen diese nacht es waren gute bedingungnen ! das signal war fast immer bis 0430 Z am grabber von andrey zu sehen ! kurze zeit gings auch mit 60 watt lesbar. awdh auf 137 servus de ossi oe5odl Scholz, Marco schrieb: > Hello, > I have in this moment (21:22UTC) a very good signal on 137. 710KHz. I copied OEH and ODL! Who was it? > > An hour ago DI2BJ on 505.030 in CW with a booming signal. Looks like beacon is off air now. > > vy73 > Marco > DD7PC, JN49ax > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg01.mx.aol.com (rly-dg01.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.85]) by air-dg06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG064-59e4af5d90b36c; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:31:26 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG013-59e4af5d90b36c; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:31:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6rv2-0001Vd-Uj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:29:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6rv2-0001VU-IL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:29:56 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6ruz-00035r-QP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:29:56 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 07 Nov 2009 20:29:47 -0000 Received: from 188-193-59-244-dynip.superkabel.de (EHLO Uwe) [188.193.59.244] by mail.gmx.net (mp058) with SMTP; 07 Nov 2009 21:29:47 +0100 X-Authenticated: #9373712 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19OoY1lFrhOhT5GAvapxGxAppu1EFC7PFKhzV046c ReSOdVmF8OpUux Message-ID: <6B0FBF73CD0B4F8B86C865F55C5EE395@Uwe> From: "Uwe Wensauer" To: Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:29:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.67,0.68 X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: Heard QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0029_01CA5FF1.6DE56E30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_60_70, HTML_MESSAGE,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01CA5FF1.6DE56E30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ei0CF 559 - >< G3XIZ just audibel EI0CF 579 <> M0JXM partly copie Time 1915 - 2000h GMT QRG 502.5 ( my dail hi) Jo43IU dk1kq , Uwe ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01CA5FF1.6DE56E30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ei0CF  559 - >< G3XIZ just audibel
EI0CF 579 <> M0JXM partly copie
 
Time 1915 - 2000h GMT
QRG 502.5  ( my dail hi)
 
Jo43IU
 
dk1kq , Uwe
------=_NextPart_000_0029_01CA5FF1.6DE56E30-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD074-b8a4af7102842; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:38:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD074-b8a4af7102842; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:38:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7Cdn-00087w-NW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:37:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7Cdn-00087n-7J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:37:31 +0000 Received: from out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.244]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7Ccq-0001oK-4J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:36:32 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AroFAE+f9kpcHccI/2dsb2JhbACCIS+BaYlDBsschD4E X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,704,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="212475161" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([92.29.199.8]) by out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 08 Nov 2009 18:37:21 +0000 Message-ID: <027601ca60a2$841cd150$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:37:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0273_01CA60A2.83ED35D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0273_01CA60A2.83ED35D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable WSPR reports amongst stns indicate reception reports usually minus dB.= Most of these stations are usually PLUS dB with me or very close to= that figure. So what does that prove. I would say it depends on the RX antenna and= not necessarily propagation. A large antenna yields better results th= an a small loop or active whip. When I switch from my 1/4 wave inv L for 500 khz to a smaller 40 m res= onated loop for 500 the signals then do go down to a minus db figure. So what is all this all ABOUT ? There is also the TX pwr to consider. Two transmitters from the same= location one using QRO and the other QRP will be received at differen= t levels at a specified RX location. There is a lot of misrepresentati= on and misleading information by WSPR operator A trace of the signal is visible long before a decode takes place, the= refore why not use QRS in the first place. =20 G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0273_01CA60A2.83ED35D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
WSPR reports amongst stns indicate re= ception=20 reports usually minus dB. Most of these stations are usually PLUS dB= with me or=20 very close to that figure.
So what does that prove. I would say= it depends on=20 the RX antenna and not necessarily propagation. A large antenna yields= better=20 results than a small loop or active whip.
When I switch from my 1/4 wave inv L= for 500 khz to=20 a smaller 40 m resonated loop for 500 the signals then do go down to= a minus db=20 figure.
So what is all this all ABOUT ?
There is also the TX pwr to consider.= Two=20 transmitters from the same location one using QRO and the other QRP wi= ll be=20 received at different levels at a specified RX location. There is a lo= t of=20 misrepresentation and misleading information by=20 WSPR operator
A trace of the signal&nbs= p;is visible=20 long before a decode takes place, therefore why not use QRS in th= e first=20 place.
  
G3KEV
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0273_01CA60A2.83ED35D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md09.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMD091-8f64b0f036b144; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:38:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD036-8f64b0f036b144; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:38:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDmy5-0000fs-Bd for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:37:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDmy4-0000fj-WB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:37:40 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f215.google.com ([209.85.220.215]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDmy4-0004PU-EY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:37:40 +0000 Received: by fxm7 with SMTP id 7so1021392fxm.29 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:37:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=bpUga+u7jpLCSQCRklN0H9YkVixA/50zz9g7DFchESk=; b=fYmlMPMT51ZQmxcoLje2nIYyMWDLQ7MWShmDp7fptbHJoH45XSBHHkgjfQVQddFUGs HI7FeCJYIHyQuQaJ7OXoxcq7qh+FUZTDbhtueqrV3QXtp5wyRRKYcz2NCuDVpHnyoYBw IR+ufeE2+qFzrUi+3dgyr6wlTHgl1n6JOuH/Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Zr6reXgO8XL0lb0b49/prwzbygzBuuE/Gefj91dtFX3IPG05cI6ln3vwHu/sNg0fK7 W9JWSuifU0bWrvMvc2YuaR0bOYEzDXfazOwNP6iDMSsbDunOxojHllIm+F5bCeD246NF GMtAUXKHNdlr+tYYrLN2Hee4vgk6VQxNQKM+Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.139.207 with SMTP id u15mr30718hbu.95.1259275054245; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:37:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:37:34 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Good S/N report Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d289.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) 2009-11-26 22:12 G4JNT 0.503851 +13 0 IO90iv +23 0.200 F6CNI JN19qb 391 243 2009-11-26 22:06 G4JNT 0.503850 +10 0 IO90iv +23 0.200 F6CNI JN19qb 391 243 That's a very good signal - Quiet rural location ???? Andy www.g4jnt.com This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health and safety police From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (rly-dc06.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.35]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC101-b2c4affccee94; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 04:42:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC068-b2c4affccee94; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 04:42:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9bbN-0005C7-R8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:40:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9bbN-0005By-FY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:40:57 +0000 Received: from out1.ip09ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.245]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9bbM-0008UR-S3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:40:57 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AswEAHtb/0pOlv8G/2dsb2JhbACCIyyBaolbBsNLhDwE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,745,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="219194374" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.255.6]) by out1.ip09ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 15 Nov 2009 09:40:49 +0000 Message-ID: <034d01ca65d7$bb039a70$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:40:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: 500 dx Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_034A_01CA65D7.BA985580" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_034A_01CA65D7.BA985580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MF grp Yesteray evening some cw DX acty fm ON4KTJ, EI0CF also SP2BXI xband 50= 0/7033 and VX9MRC beacon mode CW 507.7 as early as 1950 utc G3KEV =20 ------=_NextPart_000_034A_01CA65D7.BA985580 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
MF grp
Yesteray evening some cw DX acty= fm ON4KTJ,=20 EI0CF also SP2BXI xband 500/7033 and VX9MRC beacon mode CW 507.7&= nbsp;as=20 early as 1950 utc
 G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_034A_01CA65D7.BA985580-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de01.mx.aol.com (rly-de01.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.137]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE021-4b34afb030c2d3; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:31:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE018-4b34afb030c2d3; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:31:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8Hxs-0003sj-1B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:30:44 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8Hxp-0003sa-Sd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:30:41 +0000 Received: from smtpa1.mediabeam.com ([194.25.41.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8Hxm-0005JM-OQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:30:41 +0000 Received: from r300-1 (balancer4.mediabeam.com [194.25.41.40]) by smtpa1.mediabeam.com (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id nABIUWbq000669 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:30:32 +0100 From: "Uwe Jannsen" To: Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:30:30 Message-ID: <1AC807D90B0B121E1F9A@kabelmail.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-PRIORITY: 3 X-Spam-Score: 1.8 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,INVALID_DATE=1.76 Subject: LF: what is it? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi all, pse see: http://dj8wx-dl.de/captu38 regards Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC053-b354b028eed196; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 06:54:33 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC081-b354b028eed196; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 06:54:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAMcU-0002Y3-GC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:53:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAMcU-0002Xu-3I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:53:14 +0000 Received: from out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.242]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAMcT-000797-En for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:53:14 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgEFAOIdAktZ8fSs/2dsb2JhbACCIS2LRwbISoQ7BA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,758,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="241089586" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([89.241.244.172]) by out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 17 Nov 2009 11:53:07 +0000 Message-ID: <002801ca677c$88b21be0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <1f0624b90911160805u4435bd18ue805924594d8b997@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:53:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0025_01CA677C.884E02E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01CA677C.884E02E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gary MRC peaks 569 with me most evenings with deep qsb, but long enough dur= ation on peaks for a CW qso. The signal is visible/audible early evening. You should have no diffic= ulty having a qso. The same applies to the East. Yesterday my signal was solid on the Mos= cow grabber at 1600 utc daylight here unfortunately Andrey was not ava= ilable for a xband qso, but we have worked before. 73 gl de mal/g3kev =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 To: Rsgb_Lf_Group=20 Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 4:05 PM Subject: LF: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6 Hi All, Good signals from both stations last night. Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01CA677C.884E02E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Gary
MRC peaks 569 with me most evenings= with deep qsb,=20 but long enough duration on peaks for a CW qso.
The signal is visible/audible ea= rly evening.=20 You should have no difficulty having a qso.
The same applies to the East. Yesterd= ay my signal=20 was solid on the Moscow grabber at 1600 utc daylight here unfortu= nately=20 Andrey was not available for a xband qso, but we have worked=20 before.
73 gl de mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 16, 20= 09 4:05=20 PM
Subject: LF: 500kHz VX9MRC &a= mp;=20 WE2XGR/6

Hi All,

Good signals from both stations last night.

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.
------=_NextPart_000_0025_01CA677C.884E02E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (rly-dg05.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.89]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG074-5c64b015c4c99; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:06:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG053-5c64b015c4c99; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:06:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA2CU-0005lX-Ib for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:05:02 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA2CU-0005lO-4q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:05:02 +0000 Received: from web28106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA2CT-0000Um-Um for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:05:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 83129 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Nov 2009 14:04:56 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1258380296; bh=g+0L+XCE8AzoIqc99+qW2ng926TRlDkuXyAvRwKJOEw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LwXKzuJMkAcIzz/7FOeiVUamlyuaP2kXgfg9wCvBy09BsHTS34KK25BeGB/PMrjHS5pVQlYm1Jqu9CfJnhQS2dm86jhkwV7vRUSU9EmWKFF1xHqEaO4YSbn9F5BPTgybq6AoLl3tuX26iDy0p+Fl+tjIeEoixOBGnuxcYkbLy68= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jE7/f7uXTxFxTBc9Dd8FCW7oUboTv7ldlQ3wFKxD4DL8qNlV6jHwII+pQqRQ/HJJG5gWd6dx5gV3VFRQGvErXmQ9Ajb90ma8mlr2oxASXcwbS9v9yfDObv153/UEgni7S3IVBvpEekWenmtuYv/B+21JrVOjVb8znrz20Mn7U4k=; Message-ID: <156312.82635.qm@web28106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Qm463MYVM1kbOlRYUO2odPk_gsi8sSicXnHVwF30Zc.K9wmHCmMaylTRscB0MTBIyiprDWpN9XkAG.ZBywRDCeK8vSvADGLcUkg.stcuAfeGB4Rn2JZ1auGwm2v3NVXz8rYeWdrwsdRlH_Z38J6231jrs8qmX8.GB9hsNXPY3edXk2T6HgfMNVi4xrd4_UY7wz5VGQzqR9ng3SLrSo3O5FmOX3aBCu_tw_4tPTDVE5E.Xx1EUcnJzGRk.Knb80JEw2t4MRBwp71bV62KKNloeKzW__TMnr_u1pOabllht1tOw9yoWE.MD2LU5dAXXzGvqLP9qQ-- Received: from [86.137.246.146] by web28106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 06:04:55 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 06:04:55 -0800 (PST) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <4B0146C0.5090001@usa.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: G7NKS - Double Side Band: wspr? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1147280561-1258380295=:82635" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d298.1 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-1147280561-1258380295=:82635 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Veeeery interesting Alberto =A0 Would that give me 192 Kc/s of tunable band width on my SDR radio given th= e right software? There has been a lot of debate on the softrock reflector but this one seem= s to quite good. Do you have first hand experience of it? Christmas is com= ing ...hee hee. =A0 73 petefmt --- On Mon, 16/11/09, Alberto di Bene wrote: From: Alberto di Bene Subject: Re: LF: G7NKS - Double Side Band: wspr? To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Monday, 16 November, 2009, 12:34 M0FMT wrote: > OK too bad you can't resolve it with your existing Sound Card. >=A0 When considering a USB SC think about SDR (the future of Ham Radio).= M-Audio is considered a good card but see M0KGK's site for comparison wit= h the Creative Labs Sound Blaster Live a cost effective solution (these ar= e still available although production I believe has now ceased). >=A0=A0=A0http://www.m0kgk.co.uk/sdr/soundcards.php If somebody is in search of a good external USB audio adapter, this one is= very good. I have one and I am satisfied with it, Can be found at less than 100 Euro. http://tinyurl.com/27sgj4 73=A0 Alberto=A0 I2PHD =20 --0-1147280561-1258380295=:82635 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Veeeery interesting Alberto
 
Would that give me 192 Kc/s of tunable band width on my SDR radio giv= en the right software?
There has been a lot of debate on the softrock= reflector but this one seems to quite good. Do you have first hand experi= ence of it? Christmas is coming ...hee hee.
 
73 petefmt
--- On Mon, 16/11/09, Alberto di Bene <dibene@= usa.net> wrote:

From: Alberto di Bene <dibene@usa.net>Subject: Re: LF: G7NKS - Double Side Band: wspr?
To: rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.org
Date: Monday, 16 November, 2009, 12:34

M0FMT wrote:

> OK too bad you can't resol= ve it with your existing Sound Card.
>  When considering a USB= SC think about SDR (the future of Ham Radio). M-Audio is considered a goo= d card but see M0KGK's site for comparison with the Creative Labs Sound Bl= aster Live a cost effective solution (these are still available although= production I believe has now ceased).
>   http://www.m0k= gk.co.uk/sdr/soundcards.php

If somebody is in search of a good= external USB audio adapter, this one is very good.
I have one and I am= satisfied with it, Can be found at less than 100 Euro.

http://tinyurl.com/27sgj4
73  Alberto  I2PHD



=20 --0-1147280561-1258380295=:82635-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de12.mx.aol.com (rly-de12.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.148]) by air-de03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE032-5204afd892c3c5; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:28:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE127-5204afd892c3c5; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:28:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8yzd-0003hO-KI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:27:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8yzc-0003hC-Ca for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:27:24 +0000 Received: from mail-yw0-f193.google.com ([209.85.211.193]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8yza-0007fQ-QI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:27:24 +0000 Received: by ywh31 with SMTP id 31so6593772ywh.30 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:27:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4vHzq0JKKMKEuD1l+/GJmfyyPM6emlVPtVyRnGTtYQY=; b=vPe02yeBrFrZ12cJkxcZASTj4/LovdfufzRSQ1Ox/buWs2Ny4YddSPicOL/D7FDDoW EG4wY7MST2F/lIe/ibShcHBoNWqDvbwiYjkrrac5TIiljpNAkdDC1LXIyi0rJF0KTQUf wZb6JAnn3g93WHhRXjUvYO1Jj5pdlfCPwl0+s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=H9hP3U7SkH0PfnwrMaVWqavLkJUGHUMQc6Dv7mSxCJBsQxrN0xSJRNZnwdTJVC+F0g 4qhbJJ2RJk+UyekwR/0X9ArADSrk3ZqpeHSUBw64wOhQi+mbi1IZ4cMJKEKKR9vnZJLL vxgtZpaR7cUkD1Z6XtPkWk6HY8UlNRUaU+1sM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.129.28 with SMTP id b28mr8195466ybd.318.1258129634418; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:27:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <961313.39040.qm@web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <961313.39040.qm@web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:27:14 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70911130827m3e839c7j50acd462e3966486@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd3704af0e2430478432141 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m274.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0cd3704af0e2430478432141 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Pete, I don't know anything about "Pirates" on 500kHz. or even why you would raise the issue. I have valid FCC issued Experimental licenses for 500 (also 137 and 160-190kHz). These are classified as Experimental not "Commercial" -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:17 AM, M0FMT wrote: > Hi LF Group > > Putting Quantum Mechanics aside for a mo. I know this is bit academic > since my chance of working the Americas on 500 is pretty remote but are > these stations Amateurs or not Amateurs? Are they actually Pirating but > using a commercial call? > > The whole setup looks decidedly dodgy to me. If they are Pirates how would > it affect my license if the opportunity arose for me to work one and I did? > The only place I know where I am licensed work a non Amateur station is on > 5megs and that can only be a UK Mill station. > > It's a question of how much you value your license I suppose. > > 73 petefmt > > > --- On *Fri, 13/11/09, Graham * wrote: > > > From: Graham > Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature > stations ?? > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 14:53 > > > Scott > > SO.... Matter and antimatter cannot coexist at close range for more than a > small fraction of a second because they collide with and annihilate each > other, releasing large quantities of energy in the form of gamma rays > > Got it now .. gamma rays are electromagnetic ..hence radio waves are > produced .. which may suffer (constructive interference) or (destructive > interference) resulting in large variations in amplitude at the point of > observation ..... > > Thanks ! > > G .. > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Scott Tilley" > > > Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:29 PM > To: > > > Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature > stations ?? > > > > > Hi John > > > > VX is in developmental service (same idea as US stations), EI in amateur > service... Like positive and negative antimatter they don't mix. > > > > 73 Scott > > > > > > John P-G wrote: > >> Scott Tilley wrote: > >>> Hi Graham > >>> > >>> All Canadian 600m stations are operating under COMMERCIAL Developmental > Licenses and are not able to communicate with the Amateur Service. > >> > >> So VX9MRC shouldn't be having regular CW QSOs with EI0CF? > >> > >> Still confused.... > >> > >> John > >> GM4SLV > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > --000e0cd3704af0e2430478432141 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pete,

=A0=A0 I don't know anything about "Pirates" on= 500kHz. or even why you would raise the issue.

I have valid FCC is= sued Experimental licenses for 500 (also 137 and 160-190kHz).
These are= classified as Experimental not "Commercial"

--
73 Warren K2ORS
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WD2XGJ
= =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WD2XSH/23
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0WE2XEB/2
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WE2XGR/1



On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:17 AM, M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>= ; wrote:
Hi LF Group
=A0
Putting Quantum Mechanics aside for a mo. I know this is bit ac= ademic since my chance of working the Americas on 500 is pretty remote but= are these stations Amateurs or not Amateurs? Are they actually Pirating= but using a commercial call?
=A0
The whole setup looks=A0decidedly dodgy to me. If they are Pira= tes how would it affect my license if the opportunity arose for me to work= one and I did? The only place I know where I am licensed work a non Amate= ur station is on 5megs and that=A0can only be a UK Mill station.
=A0
It's a question of how much you value your license I suppos= e.
=A0
73 petefmt


--- On Fri, 13/11/09, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>= wrote:

From: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsn= et.co.uk>
Subject: Re: LF: Are the= new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ??
To: rsgb_lf_group@b= lacksheep.org
Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 14:53


Scott

SO.... Matter and antimatter cannot coexist at close ran= ge for more than a small fraction of a second because they collide with an= d annihilate each other, releasing large quantities of energy in the form= of gamma rays

Got it=A0 now .. gamma rays are electromagnetic ..hence radio waves ar= e produced .. which may suffer=A0 (constructive interference) or (destruct= ive interference) resulting in large variations in amplitude at the point= of observation .....

Thanks=A0 !

G ..

---------------------------------------= -----------
From: "Scott Tilley" <st= hed475@telus.net>
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:29 PM
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Subject: Re: LF: Are the= =A0 new VE stations able to=A0 qso=A0 with=A0 other amature stations ??
>
> Hi John
>
> VX is in developmental service= (same idea as US stations), EI in amateur service... Like positive and ne= gative antimatter they don't mix.
>
> 73 Scott
> >
> John P-G wrote:
>> Scott Tilley wrote:
>>&= gt; Hi Graham
>>>
>>> All Canadian 600m stations= are operating under COMMERCIAL Developmental Licenses and are not able to= communicate with the Amateur Service.
>>
>> So VX9MRC shouldn't be having regular CW QSOs wi= th EI0CF?
>>
>> Still confused....
>>
>= > John
>> GM4SLV
>>
>>
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--000e0cd3704af0e2430478432141-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb10.mx.aol.com (rly-mb10.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.168]) by air-mb04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB043-d2e4aff2a5911; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:08:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB102-d2e4aff2a5911; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:08:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9Qm6-0001MX-Ba for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:07:18 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9Qm5-0001MO-Rs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:07:17 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9Qm4-0006U8-6m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:07:17 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DEE151C003 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:07:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 082D131E702 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:07:05 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id 8B5FE18056; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:07:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from 81.146-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (81.146-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.247.146.81]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:07:04 +0100 Message-ID: <20091114230704.m4ifek7ne4owkkgc@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:07:04 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <20091114222907.nk1lbgb1ookkwksw@webmail6.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20091114222907.nk1lbgb1ookkwksw@webmail6.kuleuven.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.247.146.81 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: G3XIZ RTTY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Chris, good copy of your 85Hz RTTY signal on 500 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA021-a984af1fadf26d; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:06:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA108-a984af1fadf26d; 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Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:05:18 +0000 Message-ID: <4AF1FA9D.8070804@virgin.net> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:05:17 +0000 From: Ian Marsh User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <9afca2640910310528p4f07557aifdc0557a68bfeff8@mail.gmail.com>, <002b01ca5c10$0ccec4f0$0201a8c0@Clemens04> <4AF1B717.31461.F2160F@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> In-Reply-To: <4AF1B717.31461.F2160F@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=7b43F8AYrcwA:10 a=aSRvjw2BAAAA:8 a=CgNqllsWG-05WrqzYUIA:9 a=2GBL2JHnIdRHs7xvi9KQYDiXSw4A:4 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500kHz attenuation graphs? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Wonder if this would help. It's a free BBC document on the estimation of LF/MF broadcast service areas. There are graphs for the 200 KHz to 1500 KHz region for differing ground conductivities. It's available at: http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/reports/1975-01.pdf Older editions of the NAB Engineering Handbook at least had graphs for the MW broadcast band if I remember correctly but someone seems to have lifted our work copy and the latest edition is priced at $199. Cheers Ian / G4EXD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD022-90d4b0727e439b; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:36:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD065-90d4b0727e439b; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:36:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBd0M-0002IT-ME for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:35:06 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBd0L-0002IK-Ll for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:35:05 +0000 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net ([165.212.64.32]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBd0J-0005Tm-Kq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:35:05 +0000 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net (co02-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout02.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29A621344B8 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:34:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps03.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.132] by cmsout02.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.58V) with ESMTP id XID559NkTXI69721X02; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:34:57 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.132 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps03.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID559NkTXI69721X02 Received: from [192.168.1.4] [151.47.208.4] by cmsapps03.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.53P) with ESMTPA id 347NkTXI38240M39; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:34:54 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.208.4 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.1.4] Message-ID: <4B07279C.3030500@usa.net> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:34:52 +0100 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4B0570B4.8040209@telia.com> <955F0C15833A459FA2557314E925534C@AGB> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Z-USANET-MsgId: XID347NkTXI48240X39 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR 2.0 is now available Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Andy Talbot wrote: > Crafty. 'should' be pretty foolproof. Any old soundcard without > 48000Hz ought to just throw-up an error. Not under Windows XP.... Windows will duly and silently try to please the user of the sound card (i.e. the program) resampling at the sample rate requested. If you are not convinced, start Winrad and set the sampling rate at 192 kHz with a sound card that is not capable of that speed. You will see 192 kHz of spectrum (-96 to +96), but only the central part has some meaning, that covered by the hardware sampling rate of the card. You will also see the shape of the card's anti-aliasing filters (if any...) 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc01.mx.aol.com (rly-mc01.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.85]) by air-mc06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC061-d514b030d7f11a; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:54:50 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC011-d514b030d7f11a; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:54:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAV3F-0006AN-Jg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:53:25 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAV3F-0006AB-3S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:53:25 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAV3C-00034F-Vk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:53:25 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3537.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 96F2C1C00081 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:53:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3537.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 846B01C00088 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:53:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.24.177]) by mwinf3537.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id DFA871C00081 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:53:14 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091117205314916.DFA871C00081@mwinf3537.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <3F25D08D0AFF4CB68167DFB2839EC4D0@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <1f0624b90911160805u4435bd18ue805924594d8b997@mail.gmail.com> <20091117081718.BDD6EF3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> <4B02B081.4080003@telus.net> <57a24ca70911170629t5d073432sf5c3c06bb071d0d8@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <57a24ca70911170629t5d073432sf5c3c06bb071d0d8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:53:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Looks like a bit of 'MAL' practice to me ? G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Warren Ziegler" Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 2:29 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6 > > Lighten up Scott! > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Scott Tilley wrote: >> The first illegal ON-VX QSO. >> >> >> >> Rik Strobbe wrote: >>> >>> Gary, All, >>> >>> yesterday I could copy VX9MRC in QRSS3 with a surprising strong signal >>> as >>> early as 18 UTC, when I launched Argo. >>> Throughout the evening the signal was strong and with little QSB from >>> 19-22UTC, after that the signal became weaker with much more QSB. >>> Probably because I had a sked with Joe at 22:40 UTC ;-) . >>> But despite all we managed to complete the QSO with both way M report >>> (would have been a solid O earlier the evening). >>> A first ON-VE QSO on 500kHz and with +/- 4075km a new DX record for me >>> Joe transmitted on 507.770 and I on 501.190. >>> Between 19 and 22 UTC the signal was audible most of the time and would >>> have been CW copy if it were not squeezed between the NDB "Z" carrier at >>> 507.980 (S9+ here) the SM6BHZ CW/SSB test transmissions (up to S9) and a >>> local birdie on 507.600. >>> >>> For the QSO I was running 300W into my 11m high / 25m long lazy-L >>> antenna, >>> estimated ERP about 1.5 Watt (at best, if the greenery does not absorb >>> too >>> much) >>> >>> The night from Sunday - Monday I left Argo running, VX9MRC produced a >>> good signal all through the night and faded out at 07UTC. This would >>> mean >>> that there is a potential transatlantic path on 500kHz for 13h a day !!! >>> >>> 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >>> >>> At 17:05 16/11/2009, you wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> Good signals from both stations last night. >>>> >>>> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo. >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ > WD2XSH/23 > WE2XEB/2 > WE2XGR/1 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (rly-mg04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.110]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMG091-a0c4b0d68b6b9; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:26:30 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG046-a0c4b0d68b6b9; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:26:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDLc5-00058N-6O for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:25:09 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDLc4-00058E-5z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:25:08 +0000 Received: from smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com ([195.200.78.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDLc2-0004dJ-Mg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:25:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 5844 invoked by uid 507); 25 Nov 2009 18:24:39 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO JR) (john.rabson@numeo.fr@217.67.155.178) by smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 2009 18:24:39 +0100 Message-ID: <200911251824490725.005251CA@smtp2.numeo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:24:49 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Hand sent CW on 136 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 At about 1650z I heard what I thought was the sequence "1835". This was= followed about 10 minutes later by what sounded like "H33". =20 The signal sounded like a slightly splashy MCW (which seems most improbabl= e). It was difficult to be sure what was being sent because receiving con= ditions are not good here this evening. There is a lot of what I think is= Luxembourg effect. John Rabson=20 F5VLF 58800 Cervon France JN17vg From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME104-9ac4af5c9632b1; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:24:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME038-9ac4af5c9632b1; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:24:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6qs3-0001EJ-Dv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:22:47 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6qs2-0001EA-IE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:22:46 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6qrz-0002na-Ta for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:22:46 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 07 Nov 2009 19:22:37 -0000 Received: from 188-193-59-244-dynip.superkabel.de (EHLO Uwe) [188.193.59.244] by mail.gmx.net (mp070) with SMTP; 07 Nov 2009 20:22:37 +0100 X-Authenticated: #9373712 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/utR5pwA7uyfInl5bep5L/3Atn//gYAuflEJYQzT U+w2PBR3akhZL7 Message-ID: From: "Uwe Wensauer" To: Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:22:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.74 X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Heard EI0cf Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01CA5FE8.0B7B93E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_60_70, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01CA5FE8.0B7B93E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi , just heard EI0CF calling M0JXM 1915 UTC 50x.xx 73 Uwe, dk1kq Jo43iu ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01CA5FE8.0B7B93E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi ,
just heard EI0CF calling M0JXM
1915 UTC
50x.xx
 
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F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME043-9c44b080b2262; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:45:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME068-9c44b080b2262; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:45:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBs8p-0006hs-EA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:44:51 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBs8o-0006hj-OS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:44:50 +0000 Received: from web28102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.122]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBs8o-0001Xf-I0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:44:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 21799 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Nov 2009 15:44:45 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1258818285; bh=CGUrVIX5in/BC4dgwrh5aYq7tkhHVg89hxkKw02+c3w=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qPANyEBIUdb/dIjpX94WYTs//zA8RYMRRW9fO7TuoQuC2ECsw+EL2WpGgOy37O4ha7zjcwrHxMlMVW5ip5KzsUCZ/8yA89GUzI8mUaR5Fb1n2NJ3sauMtZCrCpw3szSanIfuLE5BijX2QQ5EV/57iDlXlaaREy5CfrtPaptR1/o= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XE7dmGS1pGDYoKR/z8Jf/6pGJ+NunVUCSHihRFoqafbDyCZnQr/D3lDBt3X7QaBu8cmtQZN3MRwnhpAp2EcDPr32MNroWXWucV9Q2WVWUJPEQHdO3wGZJ3dAJlc/RNPsFUbYizuDvAg3syT6m6Mtv5FynEwo5SDraXL/yQLWzN4=; Message-ID: <11159.21786.qm@web28102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 7lXijS0VM1kRQMz5G6ox_4W9lnm6GUgkgN2y3nqKFzyC3XwIukAEe3fC7LMwNVcjXgx4Ni4hUlcPtF6x84rubsvcdOdWxJbwFcKBDjLThwq9Du4ZQWLHU3Osti44KFJLHJ6fdt2a9OXr6N91pE62jSLmTbxc0SEtiHN7VzqbEKEg4YD5.tuZBpxmHAXV6IGFIhsc2OvyxAt4.j_JeCCcq._SHLW.jezcFdPFswpRBWX6Px3HaSLWPVSsq1VkRNpzDVVgx44EQ1fA540xh7RPgAnO28P9xBhexeYFnwxzgjk45NwqQehtwSHv5GW_ykWdcK36ixiRKZFeOQ-- Received: from [86.140.72.176] by web28102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:44:44 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:44:44 +0000 (GMT) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-350890835-1258818284=:21786" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d272.1 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-350890835-1258818284=:21786 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0 Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? =A0 (Philip=A0K Dick 1928 -1982) =A0 =A0 73 petefmt --- On Sat, 21/11/09, Graham wrote: From: Graham Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Saturday, 21 November, 2009, 14:35 Can only=A0 dream of=A0 working dx like this=A0 on cw=A0 ... 2009-11-21 13:54=A0=A0=A09M3KKR=A0=A0=A00.503906=A0=A0=A0-23=A0=A0=A01=A0= =A0=A0OL69=A0=A0=A01000=A0=A0=A0G3ZJO=20 IO92ng=A0=A0=A08894=A0=A0=A0325 mind=A0 you=A0 after=A0 watching the=A0 movie=A0 ...perhaps=A0 machine's= can dream as=20 well=A0 ? G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "James Cowburn" Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 2:12 PM To: Subject: RE: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO > > How do you know they are unattended? > > > Jim > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton > Sent: 21 November 2009 14:05 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO > > Two unattended machines had a QSO!!=A0 Is that what you mean. > g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andy Talbot" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 1:52 PM > Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO > > > CanI suggest you read thoroughly the documentation on how the mode > works before making claims about the database.and validity.=A0=A0=A0The > database can only be updated by stations decoding and reportoing, and > if each QSO partner has a reciprocal report in the database for > near-adjacent time intervals , then they MUST have been in contact > with eachother and cannot be classed as anything bu a valid QSO. Its > impossible to have achieved this in any other way. > > Please read all the documentation first. > > Andy > www.g4jnt.com > > This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health > and safety police > > > > 2009/11/21 Wolf Ostwald : >> Hello group ! >> >> >> >> I am not an expert with WSPR at all. But I followed the discussion > regarding >> false detection of calls thru the database. >> >> To my understanding the WSPR operator has NO way to really find out > whether >> the computer came to the right conclusion about the calls received, or >> whether it just judged by means of plausibility. We humans have no sens= e > for >> phaseshift, that means we have to believe the machine. >> >> I think that the database in the background is like a walking stick for > the >> blind. >> >> Of course it's a new and exciting technology, but I doubt that it is on > one >> and the same level with a regular exchange and therefore should not be >> considered equally verifying a valid contact. >> >> My two pence worth de wolf df2py >> >> > > > > >=20 =20 --0-350890835-1258818284=:21786 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?
 
(Philip K Dick 1928 -1982)
 
 
73 petefmt

--- On Sat, 21/11/09, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.= fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

From: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o= rg
Date: Saturday, 21 November, 2009, 14:35

Can only  dream of  working dx like this&= nbsp; on cw  ...

2009-11-21 13:54   9M3KKR = ;  0.503906   -23   1  &= nbsp;OL69   1000   G3ZJO
IO92ng &nb= sp; 8894   325

mind  you  after = watching the  movie  ...perhaps  machine's can dream as well  ?

G ..

----------------------------------------= ----------
From: "James Cowburn" <james.cowburn@virgin.net>
Sent: Saturday, No= vember 21, 2009 2:12 PM
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Subject: RE= : LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO

>
> How do you know they are unattended?
><= BR>>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
> -----Original= Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>= [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton=
> Sent: 21 November 2009 14:05
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
= > Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO
>
> Two unattended= machines had a QSO!!  Is that what you mean.
> g3kev
>> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
> To:= <rsgb_lf= _group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 1:= 52 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO
>
>
&g= t; CanI suggest you read thoroughly the documentation on how the mode
&= gt; works before making claims about the database.and validity.  = ; The
> database can only be updated by stations decoding and= reportoing, and
> if each QSO partner has a reciprocal report in th= e database for
> near-adjacent time intervals , then they MUST have= been in contact
> with eachother and cannot be classed as anything= bu a valid QSO. Its
> impossible to have achieved this in any other way.
>> Please read all the documentation first.
>
> Andy
>= ; www.g4jnt.com
>
> This email has been scanned for damaging= side-effects by the health
> and safety police
>
>
&= gt;
> 2009/11/21 Wolf Ostwald <df2py@t-online.de>:
>> Hello group !
>>
= >>
>>
>> I am not an expert with WSPR at all. But= I followed the discussion
> regarding
>> false detection= of calls thru the database.
>>
>> To my understanding= the WSPR operator has NO way to really find out
> whether
>&g= t; the computer came to the right conclusion about the calls received, or<= BR>>> whether it just judged by means of plausibility. We humans hav= e no sense
> for
>> phaseshift, that means we have to believe the machine.>>
>> I think that the database in the background is like= a walking stick for
> the
>> blind.
>>
>>= ; Of course it's a new and exciting technology, but I doubt that it is on<= BR>> one
>> and the same level with a regular exchange and the= refore should not be
>> considered equally verifying a valid cont= act.
>>
>> My two pence worth de wolf df2py
>><= BR>>>
>
>
>
>
>



=

=20 --0-350890835-1258818284=:21786-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md08.mx.aol.com (rly-md08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.146]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMD034-91b4b0dba99217; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:15:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD083-91b4b0dba99217; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:15:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDR46-0000dA-SW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:14:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDR46-0000d1-Fh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:14:26 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDR45-0004iu-IJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:14:26 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so193275bwz.4 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:14:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=hr+GtN3Y+06fAvw8F3mtYDIRk5swPHpLd7ZR+OlqeM4=; b=v8NAMwD64SAjOdE85DZTGUdWXA8j8DS7Is3Qf+rKdKcjpJi6M6e5GY7TLHA6Sbq57S ZK/vKBlfJbmC57rwkSzJlxGriwXhZ1g8JlkfhSEbcoNIBtFQrQ9LS05ay/Rgz2z0qbcC LvZb1UofCCS79jNliXCp+iBXJcAjMXvCV1Q30= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=bni3l4gwjc4DtgCiOqNQPf6uNOc4dsh/tRuE/+FIAw2fMeD4/WnIIgUXZsVV00FVnP vZQ/QhS4QtDeqv32hIGm8mQzH2Qv5C4Q4grbFpBeLPy2CQfDae/dTR0pW7EknKq/+Trk s/JhGLyEbZM4hxRUKDRIVplKA6wsVfgaGyiTk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.32.213 with SMTP id e21mr8320881bkd.34.1259190859342; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:14:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:14:19 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911251514l75c85489r33e7994d8befa20e@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500kHz FET PA advice - thanks everyone Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00032555f786e0227004793a37d2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d259.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --00032555f786e0227004793a37d2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thank you to all the people who have given me advice, both via this group and by direct email, on FET PAs for 500kHz. There has been a LOT of good information and too many emails to reply to everyone individually. Also, offers of FETs for which I am grateful, but that I must decline. The ham spirit is well and truly alive here - thank you everyone. First class! 73s Roger G3XBM -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --00032555f786e0227004793a37d2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you to all the people who have given me advice, both via this group= and by direct email, on FET PAs for 500kHz. There has been a LOT of good= information and too many emails to reply to everyone individually. Also,= offers of FETs for which I am grateful, but that I must decline.

The ham spirit is well and truly alive here - thank you everyone. Firs= t class!

73s
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--00032555f786e0227004793a37d2-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (rly-mf06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.176]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF101-9654af7433f230; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:16:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF063-9654af7433f230; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:16:33 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7G2b-0001Hr-9g for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:15:21 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7G2a-0001Hi-Lv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:15:20 +0000 Received: from ipmail03.adl6.internode.on.net ([203.16.214.141]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7G2Y-0006sD-37 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:15:20 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq4EAP7Q9kqWZXoy/2dsb2JhbACCJC2IDoMiBssmhD4EgWg Received: from ppp122-50.static.internode.on.net (HELO HPt680a) ([150.101.122.50]) by ipmail03.adl6.internode.on.net with SMTP; 09 Nov 2009 08:45:10 +1030 Message-ID: <6A656AA6110E48E7B7A82CF75975256D@HPt680a> From: "VK2ZTO" To: References: <019f01ca6061$34a80040$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <9afca2640911080333n583d3ec3r31f5b21e4d047248@mail.gmail.com> <01da01ca6069$9859e060$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:15:08 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009C_01CA611D.22199C10" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_009C_01CA611D.22199C10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable G'day Grand Mal, Reluctant as I am to contribute to your constant need for cyber-oxygen= ;-) - I am curious - do you hand key your QRSS3 transmissions ? 73 Puzzled (Steve/VK2ZTO) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 10:49 PM Subject: Re: LF: WSPR Why do you not use CW to explore LF propagation, this way you get an= immediate real time report, no need for database or computer aided de= vices. Your signal is always strong enought with me for a CW QSO. What is your problem with CW ? I do not usually report BEACON acty it seems pointless to me when th= e station could engage in a realtime QSO. Mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_009C_01CA611D.22199C10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
G'day Grand Mal,
 
Reluctant as I am to contribute= to your=20 constant need for cyber-oxygen ;-) - I am curious - do you hand= key your=20 QRSS3 transmissions ?
 
73 Puzzled (Steve/VK2ZTO)
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mal=20 hamilton
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 20= 09 10:49=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: WSPR

Why do you not use CW to explo= re LF=20 propagation, this way you get an immediate real time report, no= need for=20 database or computer aided devices. Your signal is always stron= g enought=20 with me for a CW QSO.
What is your problem with CW ?
I do not usually report BEACON acty= it seems=20 pointless to me when the station could engage in a realtime QSO.
Mal/g3kev
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Hi Joe,LF
Nice capture vx9mrc with a little qrm from a ssb signal of sm6bhz,
henny pa3cpm
best 73s
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rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (rly-mf03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.173]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v125.8) with ESMTP id MAILINMF042-94b4afdd46838a; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:49:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF031-94b4afdd46838a; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:49:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N940P-0005YE-H7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:48:33 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N940P-0005Y5-3J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:48:33 +0000 Received: from out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.237]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N940N-0008Fj-AS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:48:33 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvAEACRj/UpcGmS7/2dsb2JhbACCJSuBaolYBsgahDwE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,739,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="91575297" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([92.26.100.187]) by out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 13 Nov 2009 21:48:21 +0000 Message-ID: <01aa01ca64ab$088c0620$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:48:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: WEST Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01A7_01CA64AB.084204D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_01A7_01CA64AB.084204D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MF grp Anyone active now or later to the west VE/W on 500. Not qrv on 137 at present mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_01A7_01CA64AB.084204D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
MF grp
Anyone active now or later to the wes= t VE/W on=20 500.
Not qrv on 137 at present
mal/g3kev
 
------=_NextPart_000_01A7_01CA64AB.084204D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb11.mx.aol.com (rly-mb11.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.169]) by air-mb05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB054-d394afdda263b1; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:14:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB115-d394afdda263b1; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:14:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N94OJ-0005m1-Qd for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:13:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N94OJ-0005ls-Dd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:13:15 +0000 Received: from out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.243]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N94OI-0001MK-IJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:13:15 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ag4FAH9o/UpZ8PFT/2dsb2JhbACCIy2BaolYBsgahDwE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,739,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="222989498" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.241.83]) by out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 13 Nov 2009 22:13:09 +0000 Message-ID: <01cf01ca64ae$7ecb24d0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <016b01ca64a8$75cdb7e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:13:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: 500 ACTY Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01CC_01CA64AE.7E9B6240" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_01CC_01CA64AE.7E9B6240 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ps Two more in the bag SP2KDS and OK1HAS Mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 9:30 PM Subject: LF: 500 ACTY MF CW MEN A good nite so far for 500 and xband acty. Worked OZ8NJ and GM3BST on 500 and SQ5BPF, F6CNI, DL4RAJ and DF2PY xband 7033/3573. Some others got awa= y because of HF band condx. 73 and tnx to all for the CW acty de Mal/G3KEV ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.62/2499 - Release Date: 11= /12/09 14:33:00 ------=_NextPart_000_01CC_01CA64AE.7E9B6240 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
ps
Two more in the bag SP2KDS and OK1HAS=
Mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mal=20 hamilton
To: rsgb
Sent: Friday, November 13, 20= 09 9:30=20 PM
Subject: LF: 500 ACTY

MF CW MEN
A good nite so far for 500 and xban= d=20 acty.
Worked OZ8NJ and GM3BST on 500 and<= /FONT>
SQ5BPF, F6CNI, DL4RAJ and DF2PY xba= nd 7033/3573.=20 Some others got away because of HF band condx.
73 and tnx to all for the CW acty
de Mal/G3KEV
 


No virus found in this incoming message.
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------=_NextPart_000_01CC_01CA64AE.7E9B6240-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD094-b5b4afdab0f1fe; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:53:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD015-b5b4afdab0f1fe; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:53:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N91FX-0004Ym-64 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:51:59 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N91FW-0004Yd-H9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:51:58 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc2-s34.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.111.109]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N91FT-0007Nf-TO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:51:58 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W18 ([65.55.111.71]) by blu0-omc2-s34.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:51:49 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [216.137.223.53] From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China To: , Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:51:49 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <2EB15DDB42F646ABA3847BE30340C567@MAINDELL> References: <2EB15DDB42F646ABA3847BE30340C567@MAINDELL> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Nov 2009 18:51:49.0123 (UTC) FILETIME=[5B2E1530:01CA6492] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_0afe014e-dff0-4efa-950d-1decbeee93f6_" Subject: LF: Alaska X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_0afe014e-dff0-4efa-950d-1decbeee93f6_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Unfortunately I have to go back to work but Ill leave the grabber on NDB= slow mode >506 and above, within my rx filter capabailities. http://kl1x.= com/dx00000.jpg until I get to China and start playing with the AK receiver in a few days= time. =20 youll see some variable ac drive noise bands come up occasionally too. =20 R75 K9AY 2 loops set for Omni =20 73 =20 Laurence WE2XPQ Wasilla Palmer Alaska =20 http://kl1x.com Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ --_0afe014e-dff0-4efa-950d-1decbeee93f6_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
 Unfortunately I have to go back to work but Ill leave= the grabber on NDB slow mode >506 and above, within my rx filter capab= ailities. http://kl1x.com/dx00000.= jpg
until I get to China and start playing with the AK receiver in= a few days time.
 
youll see some variable ac drive noise band= s come up occasionally too.
 
R75 K9AY 2 loops set for Omni
=  
73
 
Laurence WE2XPQ Wasilla Palmer Alaska
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Hotmail: Trusted= email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. =3D --_0afe014e-dff0-4efa-950d-1decbeee93f6_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD083-b5f4b0899e5a3; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:54:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD021-b5f4b0899e5a3; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:54:47 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NC1e1-0006Fs-U7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:53:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NC1e1-0006Fj-IF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:53:41 +0000 Received: from smtp23.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.19]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NC1e0-0003kD-Vy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:53:41 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2302.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 833C67000087 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:53:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (12.229.197-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.197.229.12]) by msfrf2302.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 4E5597000084 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:53:37 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091122015337320.4E5597000084@msfrf2302.sfr.fr Message-ID: <003001ca6b16$960e90f0$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:53:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091121-1, 21/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: sorry F8boj SP2KDS Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002D_01CA6B1E.F78945C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01CA6B1E.F78945C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HI=20 Sorry the correct call is SP2KDS good night for all good sunday F8boj QRT ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01CA6B1E.F78945C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Sorry the correct call is SP2KDS
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------=_NextPart_000_002D_01CA6B1E.F78945C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me05.mx.aol.com (rly-me05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.39]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME102-9bb4b0325f6306; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:38:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME057-9bb4b0325f6306; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:38:48 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAWgQ-0006x9-J5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:37:58 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAWgQ-0006wy-3t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:37:58 +0000 Received: from mx30.mail.ru ([94.100.176.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAWgO-0003fy-18 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:37:58 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=47015 helo=EFREMOV) by mx30.mail.ru with asmtp id 1NAWgI-0000fi-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:37:50 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <002f01ca67d6$92d3d960$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: References: <000501ca67ba$e4817db0$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <20091117232501.74fl611v28s040ss@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:37:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Jay, Rik, LF, I see periodically appearing trace on 506515. QRSS3 too quickly. In QRSS10 it would be possible to read something... 73 Andrey > Jay, > > positive id of "XGR" on 506.515 kHz, "M" report > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > > > Quoting "jrusgrove@comcast.net" : > >> T/A enthusiasts >> >> WE2XGR/2 will beacon in QRSS3 mode tonight on 506.5 kHz from ~ 2130 to ~ >> 0030 Z. Reports appreciated. >> >> Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 >> >> >> > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB031-ae34b05d52f220; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:31:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB091-ae34b05d52f220; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:30:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBGRs-0003k3-Lb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:30:00 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBGRs-0003ju-3l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:30:00 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBGRq-0005TB-0X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:30:00 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3402.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 969611C00081 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:29:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3402.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 893E41C00082 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:29:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.25.208]) by mwinf3402.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 465201C00081 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:29:51 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091119232951288.465201C00081@mwinf3402.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:29:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Soft Rock for 500 Khz where to buy ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_018C_01CA6970.30816340" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_018C_01CA6970.30816340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All . Where can a Soft Rock rx for 500 Khz be purchased from ./ Or do you need to modify a 455 Khz version for 500 ? If so .. where from a 455khz version ? Tnx-=20 Graham ..=20 ------=_NextPart_000_018C_01CA6970.30816340 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
All .
 
Where  can a Soft Rock rx for&nb= sp; 500 =20 Khz be  purchased from ./
 
Or  do  you  need = ; to =20 modify a 455 Khz version for 500 ?
If so .. where from a 455khz version= ?
 
Tnx-
 
Graham ..


------=_NextPart_000_018C_01CA6970.30816340-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df06.mx.aol.com (rly-df06.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.19]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF074-55c4b0b0ace121; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:21:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF067-55c4b0b0ace121; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:21:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NChGV-0002rR-58 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:20:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NChGU-0002rI-PO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:20:10 +0000 Received: from mail-gx0-f228.google.com ([209.85.217.228]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NChGU-0005kI-3l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:20:10 +0000 Received: by gxk28 with SMTP id 28so5367638gxk.9 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:20:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=tHnFwNw9vkDbQXezvXFnL+EFQ3dFcF16/c7Z3kwj48w=; b=g2mRshLic4OJ/vYFahsJ4IvJWI4cKicvh/kW07pwOJJJI80ubuix4GKAC5YtxLam15 Ysw9FlnD5OQmjRDBeJsLqJDe5RmdYw9PLujSgZrUYboi+uTn/MSFcef7WXFptUvqyWw9 U7yly7fUn9MdowlUBaLOxCFSvDTXk0FEfJE9g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fz2mgpeZqNfKfcPxx1NmHXvJjbHakn7vBRAdc/W1kgCWYvPB10/NL/08gQWxdqYE+S A7U+OFhh3OAewr4spi9lNNDNExs7/gFP9dXaugdFEzgkOztso08jPQZ84vYSXV78J+H/ APTDfUBQyWoh0slImcp+yLT4gLplEshY5TxF4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.4.9 with SMTP id 9mr9648942ybd.44.1259014800262; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:20:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B0B0774.7000304@online.fr> References: <57a24ca70911231159k557ba717lbb0cf31cc7eb6e70@mail.gmail.com> <4B0B0774.7000304@online.fr> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:20:00 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70911231420g41527072u8a49b156731352f2@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WD2XGJ Off 11/24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m230.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thanks Jean-Pierre, Yes one last transmission before 0000 UTC ! WD2XGJ now off for tonight. --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:06 PM, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" wrote: > Hi =A0Warren, > > Ok , but for the moment XGJ is very strong here ! > Look on the grabber ! > > 73 qro J-P f1afj > > Warren Ziegler a =E9crit : >> >> WD2XGJ will be off tonight. >> >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db06.mx.aol.com (rly-db06.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.81]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB033-ad14b06eb5a4f; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:18:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB067-ad14b06eb5a4f; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:17:48 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBYyX-0000tc-I1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:16:57 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBYyX-0000tQ-0G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:16:57 +0000 Received: from mta41.charter.net ([216.33.127.83]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBYyU-000404-U8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:16:56 +0000 Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta41.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.02.04 201-2219-117-106-20090629) with ESMTP id <20091120191648.OFGH23932.mta41.charter.net@imp11> for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:16:48 -0500 Received: from mp17 ([209.225.8.247]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id 7XGo1d00E5Knl7V05XGoqd; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:16:48 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=nN7BH9HXAAAA:8 a=KJuMOR62k6A1jPDBWuQA:9 a=vfnV1Wk-kSl6EQwdJwIA:7 a=Nrh_hHenP88MXCrUh0kaCeL0w1QA:4 a=muIvw5a9-cgA:10 Message-ID: <20091120141648.8WGQY.1557635.root@mp17> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:16:48 -0800 From: To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <007301ca6a13$6bd95ad0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: from 64.206.3.50 by ssomail.charter.net; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:16:48 -0500 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Re: WD2XES WSPR 136.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thanks for the suggestion, but I doubt it will cause you any more interference than it has for the last 5 years. From our perspective, the lower end of the band has long been reserved for EU to NA operation. John, W1TAG ---- mal hamilton wrote: > om I woud suggest you Beacon at the extreme bottom end of the band and not > in the middle of the CW and QRS DX portion. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb02.mx.aol.com (rly-mb02.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.155]) by air-mb08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB082-cf34b06e70b17d; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:59:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB027-cf34b06e70b17d; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:59:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBYge-0000Xk-LU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:58:28 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBYge-0000Xa-6e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:58:28 +0000 Received: from out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.239]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBYgc-0003rU-3C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:58:28 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAP51BktZ8Ex6/2dsb2JhbACERcAQkFOBMII4VAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,260,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="108023534" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([89.240.76.122]) by out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 20 Nov 2009 18:58:18 +0000 Message-ID: <007301ca6a13$6bd95ad0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <20091120134448.AZWVG.1555689.root@mp17> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:58:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WD2XES WSPR 136.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 om I woud suggest you Beacon at the extreme bottom end of the band and not in the middle of the CW and QRS DX portion. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 6:44 PM Subject: LF: WD2XES WSPR 136.0 > WD2XES will be running a WSPR beacon for the next two evenings. Set your receiver for 136.0 kHz USB -- I will be on 137.577 kHz. The start time tonight (Friday) will be around 2345 UTC, and hopefully earlier on Saturday night. The transmit time will be set for 50%, and company from either side of the pond would be welcome. Assuming no problems, it will run until 1100Z the next morning. > > Reports are always welcome by email or the MEPT spot database. > > John, W1TAG/WD2XES > FN42ch > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de06.mx.aol.com (rly-de06.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.142]) by air-de06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE064-4df4af74ccc38e; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:57:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE062-4df4af74ccc38e; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:57:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7GgG-0001We-Bn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:56:20 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7GgF-0001WV-M5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:56:19 +0000 Received: from out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.244]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7GgD-00072c-2Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:56:19 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqkEABPb9kpcHccI/2dsb2JhbACEOtUZhD4EgWg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,704,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="212607643" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([92.29.199.8]) by out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 08 Nov 2009 22:56:07 +0000 Message-ID: <02c801ca60c6$aa5e0540$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <027601ca60a2$841cd150$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <020b01ca60a9$4495adc0$0201a8c0@Clemens04> <029701ca60af$4f444d20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <4AF73120.6070007@telus.net> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:56:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Sri Scott I do not use beacon mode only QSO mode. If you want to try xband let me know your QRG on HF. I have worked VE7 on every band from 1.8 - 28 Mcs. Only CW or QRS3 tx this end. 73 de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" To: Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 8:59 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: WSPR > Hey Mal > > Would you consider firing up a QRSS beacon for a couple of hours before > and during your sunrise in the NA waterhole 137778.0Hz +/- 3Hz? > > DCF39 has been audible for the last couple of nights and it may be our > time to get a signal from EU into the west coast of NA. I'd like to see > how the path works while open and see whether there is a possibility of > QSO in the future. > > Here's your chance at another first... > > TU es 73 > Scott > > > mal hamilton wrote: >> Two points >> >> Why waste 2.4 kHz when QRS only needs a few Hz with a better S/N ratio. >> >> You agree that a faint trace is visible. If this faint trace was QRS >> mode only a few Hz bandwidth would be necessary to read the >> intellegence and the signal/noise would be superior. >> G3KEV >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clemens Paul" >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 7:23 PM >> Subject: LF: Re: WSPR >> >> >>> Mal, >>> >>>> WSPR reports amongst stns indicate reception reports usually minus >>>> dB. Most of these >>>> stations are usually PLUS >>>> dB with me or very close to that figure. >>> >>> WSPR refers the indicated SNR to a BW of 2,4kHz. >>> So if your receiving BW is say 100Hz your actual SNR is better by >>> ~14dB than WSPR >>> reports. >>> >>>> A trace of the signal is visible long before a decode takes place, >>>> therefore why >>>> not use QRS in >>> >the first place. >>> >>> This may be an issue of your RX/soundcard setup. >>> I can assure you that with my Perseus SDR RX,set to a RBW of less >>> than one Hertz >>> for the display,I can decode every WSPR signal which shows even only >>> a faint trace on >>> the waterfall diagram. >>> At least this is my experience so far. >>> >>> 73 >>> Clemens >>> DL4RAJ >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: mal hamilton >>> To: rsgb >>> Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 7:37 PM >>> Subject: LF: WSPR >>> >>> >>> WSPR reports amongst stns indicate reception reports usually minus >>> dB. Most of these stations >>> are usually PLUS dB with me or very close to that figure. >>> So what does that prove. I would say it depends on the RX antenna and >>> not necessarily >>> propagation. A large antenna yields better results than a small loop >>> or active whip. >>> When I switch from my 1/4 wave inv L for 500 khz to a smaller 40 m >>> resonated loop for 500 the >>> signals then do go down to a minus db figure. >>> So what is all this all ABOUT ? >>> There is also the TX pwr to consider. Two transmitters from the same >>> location one using QRO >>> and the other QRP will be received at different levels at a specified >>> RX location. There is a >>> lot of misrepresentation and misleading information by WSPR operator >>> A trace of the signal is visible long before a decode takes place, >>> therefore why not use QRS >>> in the first place. >>> >>> G3KEV >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.55/2489 - Release Date: >>> 11/08/09 07:37:00 >>> >>> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.55/2489 - Release Date: >> 11/08/09 07:37:00 >> >> >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.55/2489 - Release Date: 11/08/09 07:37:00 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (rly-ma05.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.49]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA043-8ad4b04152156; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:39:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA057-8ad4b04152156; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:39:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAmbf-0002g8-LC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:38:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAmbf-0002fz-3E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:38:07 +0000 Received: from out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.243]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAmbd-0002ZA-0u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:38:07 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqkEAKejA0tZ8PBN/2dsb2JhbACCIS+LKQbIXIQ7BA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,765,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="235376767" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([89.240.240.77]) by out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 18 Nov 2009 15:37:59 +0000 Message-ID: <002201ca6865$1c55a180$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <20091118085815.7282031E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <477782.43526.qm@web28104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <20091118102656.11BAD31E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <20091118145534.2BE5D31E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:38:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz in Belgium Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001F_01CA6865.1C047440" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01CA6865.1C047440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rik What ITU document contains the definition that digital modes are teleg= raphy. The official handbook issued by HM STATIONARY OFFICE for radio= officers states that telegraphy is on/off keyed morse code ie CW and= MCW and telephony a voice transmission. Other permitted modes fall into a= different category. G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rik Strobbe=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 2:55 PM Subject: LF: 500kHz in Belgium All, over the past weeks I received several questions wether ECC Recommen= dation T/R 61-01 includes 501-504kHz in Belgium. I asked BIPT (our Ofcom, FCC, ...) and received this answer (in Dutc= h) : Een buitenlandse titularis van een HAREC vergunning mag onder dezelf= de voorwaarden als de Belgische radioamateurs alle toegelaten klassen= van uitzending en alle frequenties gebruiken. Dan mag hij ook de frequentieband 501-504 kHz gebruiken. English translation: A foreign holder of a HAREC licence may operate under the same condi= tions as Belgian radio amateurs, using all approved modes and frequenc= ies. This includes the frequency range 501-504kHz. So it is legal to operate as ON/PAxxx/P, ON/Fxxxx/P, ON/Gxxxx/P etc. Restrictions (that of course also apply to our foreign guests): - 501-504kHz - NIB - max. 5W EIRP (not ERP !) - max. 100Hz bandwidth - only telegraphy (as per ITU definition, thus includes digital text= modes) 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T=20 ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01CA6865.1C047440 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Rik
What ITU document contains the defini= tion that=20 digital modes are telegraphy. The official handbook issued by HM STATI= ONARY=20 OFFICE for radio officers states that telegraphy is on/off keyed morse= code ie=20 CW and MCW
and telephony a voice transmission.= Other permitted=20 modes fall into a different category.
G3KEV
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Rik Strobbe
Sent: Wednesday, November 18,= 2009 2:55=20 PM
Subject: LF: 500kHz in Belgiu= m

All,

over the past weeks I received several qu= estions=20 wether ECC Recommendation T/R 61-01 includes 501-504kHz in Belgium.<= BR>
I=20 asked BIPT (our Ofcom, FCC, ...) and received this answer (in Dutch)= =20 :

Een buitenlandse titularis van een= HAREC=20 vergunning mag onder dezelfde voorwaarden als de Belgische radioamat= eurs alle=20 toegelaten klassen van uitzending en alle frequenties gebruiken.
= Dan mag=20 hij ook de frequentieband 501-504 kHz gebruiken.

E= nglish=20 translation:
A foreign holder of a HAREC licence may operate= under the=20 same conditions as Belgian radio amateurs, using all approved modes= and=20 frequencies.
This includes the frequency range 501-504kHz.
So it=20 is legal to operate as ON/PAxxx/P, ON/Fxxxx/P, ON/Gxxxx/P etc.
Re= strictions=20 (that of course also apply to our foreign guests):
- 501-504kHz-=20 NIB
- max. 5W EIRP (not ERP !)
- max. 100Hz bandwidth
- onl= y=20 telegraphy (as per ITU definition, thus includes digital text=20 modes)

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
------=_NextPart_000_001F_01CA6865.1C047440-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb03.mx.aol.com (rly-mb03.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.161]) by air-mb04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB043-cf54af80925321; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:21:00 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB031-cf54af80925321; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:20:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7TDh-0003er-IH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:19:41 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7TDg-0003ei-M6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:19:40 +0000 Received: from qmta11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.59.211]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7TDd-0002eW-HN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:19:39 +0000 Received: from OMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.19]) by QMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 2zmZ1d0040QuhwU5B0KUuY; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:19:28 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([76.23.233.102]) by OMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 30KT1d0062DDHkk3N0KTqn; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:19:28 +0000 Message-ID: <003c01ca6136$e1f55380$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <007a01ca60eb$9cb96fe0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <20091109090454.6C38331E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 06:29:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: 500 kHz TA report Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Rik Yes...EI0CF has perhaps the ideal location. Likewise VE1ZZ (VX9ZZZ) has an excellent location on this end. Unfortunately I'm well inland but at least on a 'mountain' with a good view of the distant horizon but with some trees. I've been unable to receive your WSPR signal thus far although I've only watched a few times that you've been active. SM6BHZ is the only station that is 'routine' copy. Assume you were running full power in that mode? If there is no reception on WSPR the chances for cw to make it through are virtually nil. Will keep an eye on your WSPR signal. Once that gets logged we can proceed to cw. The WE2XGR/2 cw beacon runs many evenings on 506.5 kHz. With the successesful early evening contacts with Finbar I'll start it earlier - about 2200 - 2230Z. Unfortunately, there are grabbers in the US that could be used as an indicator but they are often parked on a different part of the band. Also keep an eye open for WE2XGR/6 on 507.3 kHz. Bob is currently running about 3 dB more power than I am and routinely shows up on G4WGT grabber...my signal shows up somewhat less. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 506.5 kHz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe" To: Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:05 AM Subject: Re: LF: 500 kHz TA report > Hello Jay, > > congrats on the QSO with Finbar. > His QTH is almost perfect for 500kHz (close to the ocean, almost no obstacles) in contradiction to > my QTH (inland, lot's of trees). > But I am interested in a CW QSO with you, could you drop a message (to the reflector) when you are > QRV ? > I have rather limited time for the hobby, most evenings I cannot spend all time listening. > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > At 04:20 9/11/2009, you wrote: >>500 kHz TA enthusiasts >> >>Suprisingly good TA conditions of late. Had nice QSO (cw) with Finbar, EI0CF, last night and again >>tonight with good signals reports both directions. These QSOs are about a month earlier than those >>of the past two years. Not sure if it's conditions or that we just didn't attempt it early enough >>last year. >> >>Jack, VX9ZZZ in Nova Scotia has also been in QSO with Finbar and reports hearing other EU stations >>besides Finbar even well before his sunset. I've heard Jack calling CQ evenings starting around NS >>sunset on 504 kHz and he tunes the band looking for answers. >> >>Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 >>506.5 kHz > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md04.mx.aol.com (rly-md04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.142]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD101-8fd4afb4d9bf6; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:50:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD045-8fd4afb4d9bf6; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:49:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8Mvv-0004xV-F8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:49:03 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8Mvu-0004xK-UI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:49:02 +0000 Received: from smtp820.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.189.247]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8Mvs-0007ns-RA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:49:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 92962 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2009 23:48:55 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=HKKps7Vp7jsvIExacWg7zAKje6dqrxEGL8qbX+UeeWhSUNoinQEdxOH4DxxaG1UP/VxHKqSHXkyRXThFxd/4NzsN6goUFvRA/FQ8eTIY6MNiHMhROl4lwpErOEA46ZMf6v5sehe/H+W4QC88y/ZbdSgTXVmY6b6Bff2GW9jg2QI= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@213.122.31.87 with login) by smtp820.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Nov 2009 23:48:54 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: KHdpK2OswBBXlm4uxknbEiS4uYdJoGknHN90u4K8__lTafnafZg- X-YMail-OSG: iTStj6oVM1nq0SSJklDt2ZS9YXBhI6XWZ0JSgkPKsv_LV9mDboyv3Gm3U8Ne5IMaCQ9p5AgImn9TYZSTBvKvStE.ov36jIMlzywS4wLBYq875K.KZu5NGpZdIwOYVficIEm13J.3mURhBJfyq1b9ffLdt_KjUv02pRRbZZ4x8fUJI1mxZ4GJ6lmX2Ls3dda_wduczqriXrtij2F_KnYVlQWjiW5VdrRLru9l9JITVsVoNX.pWTaIplfS5CBTaP9UsAyb9AlvHr_wDc8TSEeuOHCM5u66TPNcmISa8r22mfFPpaUP4pOPxzBe24cJC3CFh6q5tPsnn0Rzy8uFXbz5ZdI2 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <00f301ca6329$8ba907c0$0900a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <4AFB477C.5090604@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <001501ca6326$ff28c710$0617aac0@jimdesk> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:48:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: RE: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Jim what kind of PC are you using. If a desktop are to sure it has the mains safety earth connected.....I have come across this problem before some 3 connecter IEC moulded leads with only two wires in them!! If a laptop then unless you use a radio earth that may all be floating. Sometimes it is necessary to use an tranformer on the audio leads to and from the PC to gain isolation from the hum and noise. I use old telephone hybrid transformers 600ohm to 600 ohm ferrite cored. Best Wishes Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Cowburn" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 11:30 PM Subject: LF: RE: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! > Hi John > > I'll have a look see. I've noticed on strong sigs from me (few and far > between!) I get multiple decodes +50 and -50. I'm not aware of any obvious > mains hum if I monitor my outgoing sigs and all leads are wound on ferrite > cores, but clearly something is amiss. > > I shall look into it and see what I can find > > Cheers for the heads up > > With best regards > > > Jim > > > Dr. James Cowburn > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John P-G > Sent: 11 November 2009 23:24 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! > > Jim. LF > > It looks like G7NKS has a 50/100Hz problem on the audio - both in TX and > RX directions - there are up to 3 decodes by Jim of a single station (eg > G3YXM), spaced by 50 & 100Hz and I see also that M0BMU is also reporting > multiple decodes of G7NKS with the same 50/100Hz spacing. > > Jim, have you some mains hum affecting the audio in/out of the PC? > > Cheers, > > John > GM4SLV > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD011-b9d4aed582778; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 04:43:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD097-b9d4aed582778; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 04:43:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N4Wx3-00038I-9t for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 09:42:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N4Wx2-000389-P8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 09:42:20 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N4WvH-0002qS-1T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 09:40:31 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so5284966bwz.4 for ; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 01:42:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mJ+BVCUDbRGO6vBZJqfQulP7Jir+haeuCuohk2snSW8=; b=jmT5W4QK0XpytshBXXJPaHQiDuTPjwtceEz4/UPwDdHoftY/T0Kb3dtL1z3XtotQ9j cEdySyE3K76KhpCimvzoKRgY1P7UTEyDbZf1S5DImdAN6TW45g4WoK22kYo1ayD78HSL 9JhxovKYpPzkthaRuINlWV1llxRum+zHWDrck= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=PDpXG+dC37JcteOltPCJppYMrS4qHbEEAeUrsFpVkVHU0jDtL0CuUWw05EhA9lYzNl vlMXtjua6ZOfIrvwCssH9Y7f+wk5FFnwhb2TCnZrUbp3Te4AufxSALB2xhzt5O8zQwNp UX67B+IDUmv4BuDN9ogKY94biIS5o52XJQH9I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.34.23 with SMTP id j23mr2785646bkd.31.1257068520202; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 01:42:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <9afca2640910291656s5d215e81j7cfbe8316501e7de@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 09:42:00 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911010142h7bcfe4d2t6dfdf1c29955892d@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Overnight session on 500kHz WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0003255565e69ae2e204774c1275 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d256.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0003255565e69ae2e204774c1275 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks for your reports Victor. This now brings me up to 22 different station reports, in 11 squares and 5 countries on 500kHz WSPR. Best DX remains 896kms. 73s Roger G3XBM 2009/11/1 > Hello Roger, > > 2 positive decodes in PA-land, > > 73 > Victor > PA3FNY > JO22NC > > > 0302 -29 1.4 0.503860 -1 G7NKS IO92 20 > 0306 -8 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 > 0310 -25 1.7 0.503860 -1 G7NKS IO92 20 > 0312 -10 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 > 0322 -19 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 > 0322 -24 1.4 0.503861 -1 G7NKS IO92 20 > 0326 -8 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 > 0326 -29 2.4 0.503925 0 G3XBM JO02 0 > 0330 -8 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 > 0336 -15 0.4 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 > 0342 -11 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 > 0442 -13 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 > 0446 -10 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 > 0452 -3 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 > 0500 -5 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 > 0506 -9 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 > 0506 -29 2.4 0.503924 0 G3XBM JO02 0 > 0508 -25 1.6 0.503861 -1 G7NKS IO92 20 > 0512 -7 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 > 0516 -22 1.2 0.503860 -1 G7NKS IO92 20 > 0522 -14 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 > 0526 -6 0.2 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > *Van:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto: > owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]*Namens *Roger Lapthorn > *Verzonden:* vrijdag 30 oktober 2009 0:57 > *Aan:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Onderwerp:* LF: Overnight session on 500kHz WSPR > > With eight unique stations copying me so far this evening I'm going to > leave the <1mW ERP 500kHz WSPR beaconing *running overnight* in the hope > that I can get a 20th station to copy me. > > I'd* love* to be received by Gus SM6BHZ in Sweden and this is <100kms > further than John GM4SLV in the Shetlands, so is not an impossibility on a > good night. > > We live on hope, optimism and good luck! > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --0003255565e69ae2e204774c1275 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for your reports Victor.

This now brings me up to 22 differ= ent station reports, in 11 squares and 5 countries on 500kHz WSPR. Best DX= remains 896kms.

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/11/1 <vic= tor13@online.nl>
Hello=20 Roger,
=A0
2=20 positive decodes in PA-land,
=A0
73
Victor=
PA3FNY=
JO22NC=
=A0
=A0
0302=20 -29=A0 1.4=A0=A0 0.503860 -1 G7NKS IO92 20
0306=A0 -8=A0=20 0.3=A0=A0 0.503850=A0 0 G4JNT IO90 23
0310 -25=A0 1.7=A0=A0=20 0.503860 -1 G7NKS IO92 20
0312 -10=A0 0.3=A0=A0 0.503850=A0 0=20 G4JNT IO90 23
0322 -19=A0 0.3=A0=A0 0.503850=A0 0 G4JNT IO90=20 23
0322 -24=A0 1.4=A0=A0 0.503861 -1 G7NKS IO92 20
0326=A0=20 -8=A0 0.3=A0=A0 0.503850=A0 0 G4JNT IO90 23
0326 -29=A0=20 2.4=A0=A0 0.503925=A0 0 G3XBM JO02 0
0330=A0 -8=A0=20 0.3=A0=A0 0.503850=A0 0 G4JNT IO90 23
0336 -15=A0 0.4=A0=A0=20 0.503850=A0 0 G4JNT IO90 23
0342 -11=A0 0.3=A0=A0 0.503850=A0=20 0 G4JNT IO90 23
0442=20 -13=A0 0.3=A0=A0 0.503850=A0 0 G4JNT IO90 23
0446 -10=A0=20 0.3=A0=A0 0.503850=A0 0 G4JNT IO90 23
0452=A0 -3=A0=20 0.3=A0=A0 0.503850=A0 0 G4JNT IO90 23
0500=A0 -5=A0=20 0.3=A0=A0 0.503850=A0 0 G4JNT IO90 23
0506=A0 -9=A0=20 0.3=A0=A0 0.503850=A0 0 G4JNT IO90 23
0506 -29=A0 2.4=A0=A0=20 0.503924=A0 0 G3XBM JO02 0
0508 -25=A0 1.6=A0=A0 0.503861 -1=20 G7NKS IO92 20
0512=A0 -7=A0 0.3=A0=A0 0.503850=A0 0 G4JNT IO90=20 23
0516 -22=A0 1.2=A0=A0 0.503860 -1 G7NKS IO92 20
0522 -14=A0=20 0.3=A0=A0 0.503850=A0 0 G4JNT IO90 23
0526=A0 -6=A0=20 0.2=A0=A0 0.503850=A0 0 G4JNT IO90 23
-----Oo= rspronkelijk bericht-----
Van:=20 = owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Roger=20 Lapthorn
Verzonden: vrijdag 30 oktober 2009 0:57
Aan:=20 rsgb_l= f_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: LF: Overnight session on= =20 500kHz WSPR

With eight unique stations copying me so= far=20 this evening I'm going to leave the <1mW ERP 500kHz WSPR beaconin= g=20 running overnight in the hope that I can get a 20th station to co= py me.=20

I'd love to be received by Gus SM6BHZ in Sweden and= this is=20 <100kms further than John GM4SLV in the Shetlands, so is not an=20 impossibility on a good night.

We live on hope, optimism and good= =20 luck!

73s
Roger=20 G3XBM
=A0
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http= ://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM =A0=20 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088



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F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD052-9014b0c5a5c2d6; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:13:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD051-9014b0c5a5c2d6; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:12:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ND3bx-0007qC-O2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:11:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ND3bx-0007q3-4i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:11:49 +0000 Received: from mout6.freenet.de ([195.4.92.96]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ND3bw-0004Oh-1Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:11:49 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.26] (helo=16.mx.freenet.de) by mout6.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.70 #1) id 1ND3bu-0003yW-Lk; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:11:46 +0100 Received: from w0a66.w.pppool.de ([89.58.10.102]:1531 helo=2a2d7ed321c6425) by 16.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.70 #1) id 1ND3bt-0004K2-3h; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:11:46 +0100 From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" To: Cc: "'Graham'" References: <774E21EDD9DB4D8292615A728F4050AF@AGB> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:11:48 +0100 Message-ID: <97EE052373644555BA2C6F114C693250@2a2d7ed321c6425> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <774E21EDD9DB4D8292615A728F4050AF@AGB> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcptT3EMby0TZnAfQV2RS1DJbvXFggAAsqVg X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: AW: STANAG .. What software is this showing ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0055_01CA6D5B.80863110" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0055_01CA6D5B.80863110 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Graham, Partly our good old PSK Sounder programm can decode STANAG messages (identifier.) For further steps there is only commercial software available as far as I know. http://www.klingenfuss.org/perseus.htm (for example -hi--) Vy 73 de Gerhard // DK6NI ==== _____ Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. November 2009 22:42 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: STANAG .. What software is this showing ?? STANAG .. What software is this showing ?? tnx - G .. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUeTE21RUMM ------=_NextPart_000_0055_01CA6D5B.80863110 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=_NextPart_000_0055_01CA6D5B.80863110-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA052-a7e4aff2adb11e; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:10:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA076-a7e4aff2adb11e; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:10:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9QoY-0001PC-HQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:09:50 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9QoY-0001P1-39 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:09:50 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9QoV-0006Ug-TO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:09:50 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so4664960bwz.4 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 14:09:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=cghHamplU89j+iqKXhFsgJsjbewbwS1FCcx4V8w8siY=; b=IdzOkvC0/CtmqM2tKUrTAZHA69BgXp7SFFPILAC0FF9mqOm+BVWH8P4wS62fqVD7Pd zbraaikuPHX/sj0QHTZoL3xNLta1Ac7vgQdSP4zMwHfgAOyizgW8SZqSXGLF0b80R7/j scFxkfqzIClxjcVuMzHqBINYK3zrOBTaRpx2c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=fpp+ZP9/PC0G+dFbv1pAlnvPqtJ+spZ0c+Ca4xRCfQcqc+qzt9TxV15WTgfFj3S7MY 4GxIlppZji3izdkEvenceCdrHnNT8CB4nCPJ9XLUS5BDynDLC0zF8YT9noFOzxjXLZzV YKrXpyJXGkeFaQNAsXKGgXGuzJHzhIy0yX0sk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.156.210 with SMTP id y18mr7316420bkw.80.1258236582201; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 14:09:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <02d101ca6568$7254e190$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <02d101ca6568$7254e190$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:09:42 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911141409p22092b1n36b6fbc84005a1ed@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: VX9mrc Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175ce22686891704785c0824 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m284.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0015175ce22686891704785c0824 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks Mel. Just heard VX9MRC - my first ever transatlantic reception on 500kHz. 73s Roger G3XBM (BTW, I hope you note I am not on WSPR at the moment Mel!!) 2009/11/14 mal hamilton > VX9MRC active since 1950 utc beacon on 507.5 CW > De g3kev > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --0015175ce22686891704785c0824 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Mel. Just heard VX9MRC - my first ever transatlantic reception on= 500kHz.

73s
Roger G3XBM (BTW, I hope you note I am not on WSPR= at the moment Mel!!)

2009/11/14 mal ham= ilton <g3kev= mal@talktalk.net>
VX9MRC active since 1950 utc beacon= on 507.5=20 CW
De g3kev
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--0015175ce22686891704785c0824-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG084-a024b03cc2883; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:28:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG034-a024b03cc2883; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:27:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAhkj-0001OO-IA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:27:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAhki-0001OC-RG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:27:08 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAhkh-0006cH-Ox for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:27:08 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB0651C002 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:26:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from PC_van_Rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-106.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.106]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11BAD31E702 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:26:56 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:26:57 +0100 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <477782.43526.qm@web28104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20091118085815.7282031E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <477782.43526.qm@web28104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091118102656.11BAD31E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_9656399==.ALT" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --=====================_9656399==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi all, the AM sidebands on my signal were in average 33dB down on the "real" signal, meaning that the sideband ERP was about 0.1mW. Having a look at the WSPRnet database showed sideband WSPR spots from GM4SLV: 1102km with 0.1mW ERP !!! 73, Rik ON7YD At 10:42 18/11/2009, you wrote: >Hi Rik and LF > >In Jim's case he has two sidebands indicative of AM modulation and >you are right they are about 30 odd dBs down on the carrier. Not too >bad suppression by 1950's standards.... hee hee. Where only one side >band is reported on the data base is probably becuase the reporting >station is having the (say) lower side band clipped by having a >slightly high dial frequency offset. > >I have some JPEG files for the test we did yesterday if you would >like to see them I will send off reflector. You may see something >that could help Jim solve this issue. > >73 petefmt > >--- On Wed, 18/11/09, Rik Strobbe wrote: > >From: Rik Strobbe >Subject: Re: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands >To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" >Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 8:58 > >Hello Jim, LF group, > >I have noticed "double receptions" of my WSPR signal from a number of >stations. When it occurred the ghost signal was always 100Hz higher >and was 33-36dB weaker. >As the frequency shift and signal strength difference was the same at >the different RX stations I conclude that the cause was with me. >I think that it is just some AM modulation in the PA caused by the >100Hz ripple of the PSU. > >73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > >At 02:13 18/11/2009, you wrote: > >Dear Jim LF Group, > > > >Looking at the sidebands on the G7NKS WSPR signals, mains hum or other noise > >by itself is not a sufficient explanation of what is seen. Simply adding > >50Hz, 150Hz, etc. noise into the PC audio channel, then feeding the result > >into an SSB TX would give unwanted CW at frequencies offset from the SSB > >carrier frequency by +/-50Hz, 150Hz and so on, i.e. with the carrier "dial > >frequency" at 502.4kHz, unmodulated carriers would appear at 502.45kHz, > >502.55kHz and so on, in addition to the WSPR signal at around 503.9kHz. > >However, these would probably largely be removed by the SSB filter in the > >rig. Instead, we see unwanted sidebands offset from the wanted WSPR signal > >frequency by +/- 50Hz, 150Hz, with identical modulation to the wanted > >signal. This requires some sort of non-linear process to cause the > >intermodulation between the presumed mains noise and the WSPR signal > >somewhere in the TX chain. > > > >One possibility is that intermodulation occurs in the PA. Jim's description > >suggests that he is persuading the HF PA in the IC735 to produce output at > >500k. At this frequency, the PA linearity may well be poor due to the > >impedance matching, coupling, decoupling and feedback components in the PA > >being wrong for the frequency, and high flux densities occuring in ferrite > >components due to the low operating frequency. But this wouldn't explain why > >Jim also gets multiple received signals from a strong station with a clean > >signal, which implies some identical noise source and distortion in the > >receive path. It would also mean the mains noise getting through the > >filtering in the rig somehow. > > > >A possibility that would explain the unwanted sidebands appearing on both TX > >and RX signals is if one of the oscillators in the system has mains noise > >sidebands. The sound card clock seems unlikely, since this is just a simple > >crystal oscillator. I see the IC735 has some sort of multi-loop PLL > >synthesiser, which would certainly be prone to this type of spurious signal, > >since any kind of mains noise getting in would modulate the VCO frequencies, > >and would probably be the same on transmit and receive. This could be > >checked by receiving a clean carrier somewhere around 500kHz, and examining > >the audio output using Spec Lab or Argo or similar to see if 50Hz and 150Hz > >sidebands are present on the received audio tone. > > > >Cheers, Jim Moritz > >73 de M0BMU > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "James Cowburn" > <james.cowburn@virgin.net> > >To: > <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> > >Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:26 PM > >Subject: LF: rule #2 - assumption is the brother of all foul ups > > > > > > > LF > > > > > > > > > > > > Sidebands are back! I think its caused by my TX getting hot and bothered > > > by > > > struggling at 500. From cold it txs 50 watts but this soon drops back to > > > around 35, and the sidebands appear. My sigs are better so having the > > > txfr > > > outside the shack and at the antenna is a vast improvement, but > I now need > > > to work on the cooling. > > --=====================_9656399==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Hi all,

the AM sidebands on my signal were in average 33dB down on the "real" signal, meaning that the sideband ERP was about 0.1mW.
Having a look at the WSPRnet database showed sideband WSPR spots from GM4SLV: 1102km with 0.1mW ERP !!!

73, Rik  ON7YD

At 10:42 18/11/2009, you wrote:
Hi Rik and LF
 
In Jim's case he has two sidebands indicative of AM modulation and you are right they are about 30 odd dBs down on the carrier. Not too bad suppression by 1950's standards.... hee hee. Where only one side band is reported on the data base is probably becuase the reporting station is having the  (say) lower side band clipped by having a slightly high dial frequency offset.
 
I have some JPEG files for the test we did yesterday if you would like to see them I will send off reflector. You may see something that could help Jim solve this issue.
 
73 petefmt

--- On Wed, 18/11/09, Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote:

From: Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
Subject: Re: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands
To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 8:58

Hello Jim, LF group,

I have noticed "double receptions" of my WSPR signal from a number of
stations. When it occurred the ghost signal was always 100Hz higher
and was 33-36dB weaker.
As the frequency shift and signal strength difference was the same at
the different RX stations I conclude that the cause was with me.
I think that it is just some AM modulation in the PA caused by the
100Hz ripple of the PSU.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


At 02:13 18/11/2009, you wrote:
>Dear Jim LF Group,
>
>Looking at the sidebands on the G7NKS WSPR signals, mains hum or other noise
>by itself is not a sufficient explanation of what is seen. Simply adding
>50Hz, 150Hz, etc. noise into the PC audio channel, then feeding the result
>into an SSB TX would give unwanted CW at frequencies offset from the SSB
>carrier frequency by +/-50Hz, 150Hz and so on, i.e. with the carrier "dial
>frequency" at 502.4kHz, unmodulated carriers would appear at 502.45kHz,
>502.55kHz and so on, in addition to the WSPR signal at around 503.9kHz.
>However, these would probably largely be removed by the SSB filter in the
>rig. Instead, we see unwanted sidebands offset from the wanted WSPR signal
>frequency by +/- 50Hz, 150Hz, with identical modulation to the wanted
>signal. This requires some sort of non-linear process to cause the
>intermodulation between the presumed mains noise and the WSPR signal
>somewhere in the TX chain.
>
>One possibility is that intermodulation occurs in the PA. Jim's description
>suggests that he is persuading the HF PA in the IC735 to produce output at
>500k. At this frequency, the PA linearity may well be poor due to the
>impedance matching, coupling, decoupling and feedback components in the PA
>being wrong for the frequency, and high flux densities occuring in ferrite
>components due to the low operating frequency. But this wouldn't explain why
>Jim also gets multiple received signals from a strong station with a clean
>signal, which implies some identical noise source and distortion in the
>receive path. It would also mean the mains noise getting through the
>filtering in the rig somehow.
>
>A possibility that would explain the unwanted sidebands appearing on both TX
>and RX signals is if one of the oscillators in the system has mains noise
>sidebands. The sound card clock seems unlikely, since this is just a simple
>crystal oscillator. I see the IC735 has some sort of multi-loop PLL
>synthesiser, which would certainly be prone to this type of spurious signal,
>since any kind of mains noise getting in would modulate the VCO frequencies,
>and would probably be the same on transmit and receive. This could be
>checked by receiving a clean carrier somewhere around 500kHz, and examining
>the audio output using Spec Lab or Argo or similar to see if 50Hz and 150Hz
>sidebands are present on the received audio tone.
>
>Cheers, Jim Moritz
>73 de M0BMU
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "James Cowburn" < james.cowburn@virgin.net>
>To: < rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:26 PM
>Subject: LF: rule #2 - assumption is the brother of all foul ups
>
>
> > LF
> >
> >
> >
> > Sidebands are back!  I think its caused by my TX getting hot and bothered
> > by
> > struggling at 500.  From cold it txs 50 watts but this soon drops back to
> > around 35, and the sidebands appear.  My sigs are better so having the
> > txfr
> > outside the shack and at the antenna is a vast improvement, but I now need
> > to work on the cooling.


--=====================_9656399==.ALT-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com (rly-md01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.139]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD032-8e64afcce9cc5; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:12:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD016-8e64afcce9cc5; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:12:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8mZ5-0000gY-4p for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:11:11 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8mZ4-0000gP-56 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:11:10 +0000 Received: from outbound03.telus.net ([199.185.220.222]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8mZ1-00017M-8D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:11:10 +0000 Received: from edtnaa01.telusplanet.net ([75.157.140.241]) by priv-edtnes29.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091113030604.WXCM20472.priv-edtnes29.telusplanet.net@edtnaa01.telusplanet.net> for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:06:04 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.67] (d75-157-140-241.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.140.241]) by edtnaa01.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 7EAFA1F0678B223F for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:06:03 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4AFCCD1B.5010907@telus.net> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:06:03 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: [Fwd: Experimental Developmental Licenses for 600-meters] CANADA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) FYI I have removed personal email addresses and telephones #s of all=20 involved otherwise this is the full text of RAC's dictate about how=20 Canadian amateurs are required to be considered for authorization on 600m. 73 Scott VE7TIL -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Experimental Developmental Licenses for 600-meters Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 12:19:42 -0500 From: Bryan VE3QN =20 =20 Gentlemen, =20 It has been some time since the last time we communicated on the subject= =20 of the 500 kHz Development Licenses. This is an attempt to make up for=20 that and to give you some idea of where things stand. =20 The issue has been how to stream proposals, such as those some of you=20 have submitted, through RAC and into IC in a form which IC can=20 expediently process into the Developmental Licenses IC have indicated=20 they are prepared to issue for experimental operation by radio amateurs=20 on 600 meters. =20 The work on this issue is being generously worked through by Jim Dean,=20 VE3IQ, and Richard Ferch, VE3KI, working with Ren=E9 Guerette and Gary=20 Steckly of Industry Canada. =20 At this point in time it seems likely that Industry Canada will accept=20 that the applications be forwarded to them using IC Form 2365 a copy of=20 which is attached for your information only. What is still being worked=20 on is how some of the requirements of the form might be modified or even= =20 waived for the particular circumstances of these Developmental Licenses=20 and radio amateurs as applicants. It is important in crafting this that=20 the process as modified be agreeable to the regional Industry Canada=20 offices through which these applications will flow and not simply to the= =20 IC officials with whom Jim and Rich are working here in Ottawa. This is=20 going to take a little more time to work through but we think we are close= . =20 It's important to realize that, reflecting the Government's redoubled=20 concern with transparency, this process will - unlike the earlier 135=20 kHz authorizations - more closely follow IC's rulebook. In this regard,=20 I'm taking the liberty of excerpting the following from a recent letter=20 from Ren=E9 Guerette, Director of IC's Amateur Radio Service Centre....=20 =20 The developmental licence applicants must adhere to the rules applicable= =20 to commercial radio stations. Their amateur certification should serve=20 them well as operators but does not infer any other privileges.=20 Applicants are bound by the CPC 2-0-03 on tower consultation. If they=20 exceed the exemption limit in tower height of 15 meters or create other=20 non excluded situations, it will be at their own perils. The LUA may=20 wish to allow construction/erection without consultation if approached=20 but since the duration of these trials is over 2 years, temporary may=20 not be so temporary. This provision in the CPC is meant for temporary=20 emergency situations. Antennae patterns and ERP calculations as per predictions seem quite=20 reasonable to me as antenna propagation characteristics at these=20 frequencies are difficult to assess. As you indicate, the efficiencies=20 of such antennae are more likely to be less than the model. Licences must be renewed yearly. Rationale for renewal is required. This= =20 too is assessed at the district level. However, I suggest that licensees= =20 should forward their rationale with covering letter to the ARSC for=20 vetting and distribution to appropriate licensing office for renewal.=20 Since all members are participating in the same trial, I suspect the=20 rationale will be similar for most if the project is ongoing. A letter=20 from RAC might do the trick. =20 End of Excerpt. =20 As you can see, it's much easier to be a radio amateur. We do think,=20 however, we are close to the finish line and it is our objective to have= =20 this process as straightforward as the circumstances permit when we are=20 ready to go. =20 One area where those of you who have submitted proposals can help is in=20 connection with the requirements for antenna pattern and gain data. It=20 seems likely that IC will accept data which RAC will supply based on=20 antenna modeling which we are hoping to do here. Those of you who have=20 submitted proposals could help now by submitting data, e.g.,could be as=20 simple as a description or a diagram, on the antennae you anticipate=20 using in your proposed 500 kHz operation.=20 =20 Thank you again for your willingness to participate in this and for your= =20 patience. 73, =20 Best Regards, =20 Bryan =20 -------------------------------------------------------- =20 Bryan Rawlings VE3QN / VE2QNN Radio Amateurs of/du Canada, Inc. Web: www.rac.ca From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df08.mx.aol.com (rly-df08.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.21]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF031-56b4af1ba591dd; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:31:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF082-56b4af1ba591dd; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:31:07 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N5jgF-0006qp-9a for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:29:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N5jgE-0006qg-JG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:29:58 +0000 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net ([165.212.64.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N5jev-0003kT-TO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:28:38 +0000 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net (co02-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout02.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15AD313453C for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:29:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps04.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.133] by cmsout02.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.58V) with ESMTP id XID876NkDRdz0709X02; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:29:50 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.133 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps04.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID876NkDRdz0709X02 Received: from [192.168.1.4] [151.47.209.91] by cmsapps04.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.53P) with ESMTPA id 951NkDRdx5872M40; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:29:49 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.209.91 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.1.4] Message-ID: <4AF1BA0A.8020207@usa.net> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:29:46 +0100 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <57a24ca70911040825i8280573r7c52559a04b70d6c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <57a24ca70911040825i8280573r7c52559a04b70d6c@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Z-USANET-MsgId: XID951NkDRdY5872X40 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: "Poisson, Shannon, and the Radio Amateur" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Warren Ziegler wrote: > Andy, > I can get a copy from the M.I.T. library but it may be a few days > before I get over there... > Would it be asking too much for a publicly downloadable copy ? TNX. 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (rly-mg04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.110]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG092-a084b0194ff1c6; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:08:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG042-a084b0194ff1c6; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:08:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA5y6-0007Al-Er for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:06:26 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA5y3-0007AI-RS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:06:24 +0000 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA5xw-00017l-SQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:06:18 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.4]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091116180606.THCS17277.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:06:06 +0000 Received: from [81.109.247.175] (helo=jimdesk) by know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA5xl-0006XO-Nm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:06:06 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: "'James Cowburn'" , References: Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:06:02 -0000 Message-ID: <014601ca66e7$76a9f9d0$0517aac0@jimdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Acpm5m3SHzpox8kKQe2PU52HmguBJQAAPlwg X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=qq8CF84x6uRvSzY4yGcA:9 a=OkM6unOexygCOFU_KpfVbpKIt9QA:4 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=pvu12Wc33GzLKAv88dYA:9 a=9230KV-9BE6vDUauFQoA:7 a=bRYykBJtFJ7atHcFV3MdV9GzK2YA:4 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: thats the way to do it! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0147_01CA66E7.76A9F9D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_FONT_BIG, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0147_01CA66E7.76A9F9D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear LF At a stroke, side bands gone, 25watts found, sigs increased! I'd like to say I planned it that way but sister Serendipity was on my side! I just moved the impedance matching transformer from in the shack to the base of the coil and re-adjusted the taps on both. IC735 now happily firing 50watts out as opposed to 25 watts and it seems that the dreaded side bands are gone. Let's see if it stays that way. With best regards Jim G7NKS Dr. James Cowburn ------=_NextPart_000_0147_01CA66E7.76A9F9D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

Dear LF

 

At a stroke, side bands gone, 25watts= found, sigs increased!  I’d like to say I planned it that way but sister Serendipi= ty was on my side!

 

I just moved the impedance matching tra= nsformer from in the shack to the base of the coil and re-adjusted the taps on both.   IC735 now happily firing 50watts out as opposed to 25 watt= s and it seems that the dreaded side bands are gone.  Let’s see if= it stays that way.

 

 

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim= G7NKS

 

 

Dr. James Cowburn

 

------=_NextPart_000_0147_01CA66E7.76A9F9D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (rly-mf01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.171]) by air-mf02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF021-9404b01b5153da; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:25:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF016-9404b01b5153da; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:24:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA87E-0008Gl-IG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:24:00 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA87E-0008Gc-4b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:24:00 +0000 Received: from mx1.wp.pl ([212.77.101.5]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA87C-00021Q-AS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:24:00 +0000 Received: (wp-smtpd smtp.wp.pl 25918 invoked from network); 16 Nov 2009 21:23:55 +0100 Received: from ip23.15mes0-1.cityconnect.schedom-europe.net (HELO [192.168.0.102]) (sq5bpm@[83.101.67.23]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp.wp.pl (WP-SMTPD) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 16 Nov 2009 21:23:55 +0100 Message-ID: <4B01B4C1.1080505@wp.pl> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:23:29 +0100 From: Marek SQ5BPM User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-WP-AV: skaner antywirusowy poczty Wirtualnej Polski S. A. X-WP-SPAM: NO 0000000 [sfO0] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Sad news from SP5ZCC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear all, Sad news from SP5ZCC: the station and antennas are being dismantled and the club room emptied. This is direct result of a recent change of the secondary school director, where the club has been located for the last 29 years, with peak activities around 1998-2005. The new director probably has other priorities for the club room rather than keeping a strange hobby club there. On the other hand, all the most active club members (me included) are around their 30s, so it's time for family, children, qrl and related stuff. There was nobody to keep the club running, young people from the secondary school didn't get interested... So, maybe, indeed a secondary school is not a place for the radio club anymore. So, no LF from there in the nearest future... I feel sad, as I spent many hours at the shack there... Marek SQ5BPM (ON4BPM) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (rly-mf03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.173]) by air-mf03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF034-94e4b04c263395; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:58:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF034-94e4b04c263395; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:58:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAy8x-0006Q5-Vh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:57:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAy8x-0006Pw-3b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:57:15 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.55]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAy8v-00072V-0n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:57:15 +0000 Received: from edmwaa01.telusplanet.net ([75.157.140.241]) by priv-edmwes51.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091119035204.FOBL20907.priv-edmwes51.telusplanet.net@edmwaa01.telusplanet.net> for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:52:04 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.67] (d75-157-140-241.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.140.241]) by edmwaa01.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 564813642798EA40 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:51:37 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4B04C0C6.5010007@telus.net> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:51:34 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4B0472EC.9020806@online.fr> <57a24ca70911181803hf36c50eo18b2337c5e7fb45b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <57a24ca70911181803hf36c50eo18b2337c5e7fb45b@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: LF T/A [137kHz] WD2XGJ last night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Warren I was trying to relax last night and was constantly bothered by the hot pixels on the monitor of XDJ burning them out. Nice signal for most of your run. Seeing you already tonight. 73 Scott Warren Ziegler wrote: > Hi Jean-Pierre, > > Thank you for the report and the '"grabber" ! > I have been taking advantage of the good conditions to do some listening! > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db05.mx.aol.com (rly-db05.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.80]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDB061-aca4b0c5383ca; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:43:50 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB058-aca4b0c5383ca; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:43:33 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ND39N-0007Zb-Py for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:42:17 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ND39N-0007ZS-4i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:42:17 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.152]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ND39K-0005aL-Pr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:42:17 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3422.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 788C31C0008A for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:42:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3422.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6BDB71C00088 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:42:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.43.164]) by mwinf3422.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id D9B6F1C0008A for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:42:06 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091124214206891.D9B6F1C0008A@mwinf3422.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <774E21EDD9DB4D8292615A728F4050AF@AGB> From: "Graham" To: Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:42:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: STANAG .. What software is this showing ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A1_01CA6D4E.F72D2C90" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00A1_01CA6D4E.F72D2C90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable STANAG .. What software is this showing ?? tnx - G ..=20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DxUeTE21RUMM ------=_NextPart_000_00A1_01CA6D4E.F72D2C90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
STANAG .. What software is this = showing=20 ??
 
tnx - G ..
 
 


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anyone's about, I am trying to use a new fangled digital mode (it's >> called CW) on 500kHz. Calling CQ around 501.7 and looking for any calls. >> >> Have heard M0JXM calling CQ but he did not hear me. >> >> 73s >> Roger G3XBM >> >> -- >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ >> http://www.g3xbm.co.uk >> G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 >> > > --001485f724b671b3c20478674c6b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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If anyone's about, I am tr= ying to use a new fangled digital mode (it's called CW) on 500kHz. Cal= ling CQ around 501.7 and looking for any calls.

Have heard M0JXM calling CQ but he did not hear me.

73s
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--001485f724b671b3c20478674c6b-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (rly-dd08.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.155]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD084-b8f4af6fde339c; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:20:47 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD081-b8f4af6fde339c; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:20:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7BQK-0007Wv-MZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:19:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7BQK-0007Wm-8K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:19:32 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7BPM-0001T7-S1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:18:33 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.6] (opc1.twatt.home [192.168.1.6]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C8113B535 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:19:29 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4AF6FDA1.1070404@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:19:29 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <019f01ca6061$34a80040$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20091108120711.z1zbaakm0cw0cocg@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <01cd01ca6068$54f09a40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20091108141505.zsudabk1wg80k848@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <4AF6CA9E.70403@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <20091108151952.3tkxrc9ggk8s84o8@webmail6.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20091108151952.3tkxrc9ggk8s84o8@webmail6.kuleuven.be> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: daytime WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Rik, LF Yes - I was pleased at the results too! I note that now, in darkness, that my active loop is giving much the same s/n results to the vertical/tuned pre-amp, whereas in daytime the vertical/pre-amp was far better. I've seen this before, the active loop's own internal noise limits its useable sensitivity in the day, when extra gain on a passive antenna brings increased sensitivity. At night the external noise dominates in both setups, and the results become very similar. I'm running both in parallel at the moment - spots from GM4SLV are the vertical/preamp/IC718 and from CLOUSTA are from the ALA1530S+ loop/IC-R75. Cheers, John Rik Strobbe wrote: > John, > > amazing. > -16dB with 200mW ERP would mean that only 10mW ERP would be needed to > get a marginal copy. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md08.mx.aol.com (rly-md08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.146]) by air-md04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD043-91a4b098c20fe; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:08:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD082-91a4b098c20fe; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:08:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCHmM-0004xT-F6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:07:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCHmL-0004xK-Jf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:07:21 +0000 Received: from web28516.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([87.248.110.195]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCHmL-0005XZ-Fu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:07:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 52388 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Nov 2009 19:07:15 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1258916835; bh=uSVzEZcLd5gtJc65qRH+guTwz5VIu0C1//Q6szBtuu0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BqqDIaSCHtrNLE37f9M88X1eQaBFCm8QVQsORxNt0TLBx/nbGpRvhfKhSnJHCGeS54qKMaB4tboN1MPKY3X/M+q/jaJDd0gg4j1uc9Vg1eNuYT+GB5aaDT3zuc8V5OMVLhLu8y2ek19mlqCoKVjdP+cP53mxz8P1jgcAfLtVaVA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qKQro5SNzFUGllO6Qxr5fjjCpeL4AI2oqQV3urEfRuMkzb/yijiauKnAQzok8wdvdnbtL8S9forXplOHj+fC2nhCuuvKcTW2J2VhjlVS0fKMymIeUhYXUSmTNauMkP/HUxv5DRfiJUpy1/haF0MTz70FqoXlvqbeZC2s7ZCdtsc=; Message-ID: <827245.52377.qm@web28516.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: uDqcOXQVM1l91sE9czKtoAkomBFWdASct2BtPGXAziodY9iVl00CHDlk_Mlk7bz5751WHpuQ.RUoBS8UX0WS_MR_LYT5I9GFsk9JZJ2l1Td7iRLV_ZuOP7lW.qfOBAd3sZH32ZPj2S98MMhll8tQ3gucE2NEIUGvEGhB5nOZSCuS11Y_vvBKnfukulc3oyJCVAImNJDUslzEXtePnXEftDzRT.xVpMTUTMSZTPnDgZNkbo9SFZaAdb_iF9SOrrKk9RrUt2Cm6gY1RUyRR_bv0qyMcKg_vqsV6YpeoOIQXKsT Received: from [80.6.43.68] by web28516.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:07:15 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/211.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:07:15 +0000 (GMT) From: Chris Osborn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: [500 khz] M0JXM & G3XIZ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-930089136-1258916835=:52377" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m280.2 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-930089136-1258916835=:52377 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for those very interesting measurements Dave. I was running 50 watts of RF to a 40m inverted 'L' at 10m. I've measure my field strength as being 640 mW ERP . .=20 Hopefully these parameters all tie up . .=20 if not then it's back to the drawing board. 73 Chris G3XIZ IO92UB ________________________________ From: Dave G3WCB To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Sun, 22 November, 2009 12:10:45 Subject: LF: [500 khz] M0JXM & G3XIZ =20 Hi,=20 Dennis and Chris. =20 I=20 checked your relative signal strengths during your QSO on 500 kHz this mor= ning,=20 using the Wandel & Golterman SPM-30. M0JXM was averaging -74 dBm, and G3XI= Z=20 was averaging -62 dBm, i.e. 12 dB stronger. If you know how much RF power= you=20 were each using, you can deduce your relative antenna=20 efficiencies. =20 Hope=20 this is useful. =20 73,=20 Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- >From: > owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dave=20 > G3WCB >Sent: 21 November 2009 11:38 >To: > rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >Subject: LF: [500 khz]=20 > M0JXM... > > >Hi,=20 > Dennis. >=20 >Your=20 > signals are RST 579 here this morning. I can also hear G3DXZ at 349/QSB= , but=20 > he's sending too fast for reliable copy at this end.=20 >=20 > My antenna is a 20m long=20 > double wire "tee" at 5m, and the RX is a W&G SPM-30 with a tuned J310= =20 > pre-amp. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, s.e.=20 > England >-----Original Message----- >>From: >> owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 >> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of DENNIS=20 >> EASTERLING >>Sent: 18 November 2009 17:16 >>To: >> rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>Subject: LF: Lost=20 >> QSO >> >> >>Hello Mal >>=20 >>Sorry if I left you in the lurch 16.5=20 >> today, after giving you a report 599 something happened and a single= =20 >> frequency signal came up on top of you and slowly drifted down=20 >> frequency, perhaps someone tuning? >>=20 >>Better luck next time. >>=20 >>73 Dennis=20 >>M0JXM =20 --0-930089136-1258916835=:52377 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
--0-930089136-1258916835=:52377-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me10.mx.aol.com (rly-me10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.44]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME053-9dd4af71e2e310; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:38:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME101-9dd4af71e2e310; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:38:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7DZr-000065-4x for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:37:31 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7DZq-00005w-LJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:37:30 +0000 Received: from smtp826.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.13.123]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7DZn-0006EE-Te for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:37:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 55208 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2009 19:26:28 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=oCl9g6eipxJkbRKS+HfeMZGson6pJInCeXcwOm5BWeGf09U+my7899Faii99CZ5mZfGDdmcuo1PJ7iMLikTu8Dq4Zt0RauqgiaKEeykAIU4jBYSCOUsi8Iw1sVMAoy3U457ZWHaDR3lhyzGJ4Hlrrnbwt71r2+PHZx8oBVCQ/Sk= ; Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.177.107.201 with login) by smtp826.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 2009 19:26:27 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: qKIhhNCswBB2TTHr2BORWcGGR2mpopxhCcunGIxpCKQYiG07Q7UOhNo- X-YMail-OSG: rZ04MA8VM1lJQiQb0daNR5jQEch8ebnYnN5TgoiHBPe7tilBVTvEh0Zy_iUmLoUsFEJYFnGRJ5Nq_ynD9zRFLyQ.sGmW.n74EMErNDo4vPNaT7wzo1Y8lrzLH3R2WwWrBoZT46g9IuY9AcGaf1loZCnouYFkTrU2eNVUbBaKNSJy7ifc_QDtV_GN44QRjbEr1.qZ2riIObWNIK9dYcO3nn9S0B4oKEzSW9Io0EKR55.Vc8uFKNnfejSUJwu8v8NxMUw53Pq4YsAkDig5VEcC1BO2XBVOnkFt8sSrZF7eZRpbIfAebx5hseaR08.k8eoRP4ENSP1c X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "James Moritz" To: References: <027601ca60a2$841cd150$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <027601ca60a2$841cd150$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:26:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Mal, LF Group, ----- Original Message ----- From: "mal hamilton" >WSPR reports amongst stns indicate reception reports usually minus dB. Most >of these stations are usually PLUS dB >with me or very close to that >figure. >So what does that prove. It proves the SNR is higher at the output of your receiver than it is at whatever other stations you are talking about >I would say it depends on the RX antenna and not necessarily propagation. So how then does the signal reach the RX antenna? Radio wave propagation has always to be involved somewhere! >A large antenna yields better results than a small loop or active whip. Not if the small loop or whip are designed to achieve adequate SNR at the frequency of interest. >When I switch from my 1/4 wave inv L for 500 khz to a smaller 40 m >resonated loop for 500 the signals then do go >down to a minus db figure. >So what is all this all ABOUT ? It is probably about the different directional patterns of the vertical and loop antennas, resulting in different signal and noise levels at the receiver, and therefore different values of SNR. Or maybe your loop just doesn't work very well. >There is also the TX pwr to consider. Two transmitters from the same >location one using QRO and the other QRP will be >received at different >levels at a specified RX location. There is a lot of misrepresentation and >misleading information by >WSPR operator This applies also to CW or any other type of signal. It is a bit rich for someone so shy of giving figures for his TX power to suggest others are being misleading... >A trace of the signal is visible long before a decode takes place, >therefore why not use QRS in the first place. Because a trace of signal is just that; a decoded WSPR signal contains station ID, location, and power information, making it much more useful, without the operator actually having to watch a computer screen 24 hours a day. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (rly-ma05.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.49]) by air-ma03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA033-8ab4af5205c67; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 02:23:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA055-8ab4af5205c67; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 02:23:10 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6fcN-0008FB-BU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:21:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6fcM-0008F2-OY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:21:50 +0000 Received: from mailout10.t-online.de ([194.25.134.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6fbH-0003BP-Ll for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:20:44 +0000 Received: from fwd01.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.t-online.de with smtp id 1N6fcI-0007b1-01; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 08:21:46 +0100 Received: from df2py (G54dsYZLrhBpo9DBGl9ryzQUKxe9DQ5YSbizIlUs1twMwhcB2m4ZgLS7lTzhJwgQUt@[80.187.101.41]) by fwd01.t-online.de with esmtp id 1N6fcC-09FKyG0; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 08:21:40 +0100 From: "Wolf Ostwald" To: Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 08:23:19 +0100 Message-ID: <1686106A1FF945FDB9AC52BD1ECAFB77@df2py> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: Acpfey4KRSt181+VQluxV6JB528vew== X-ID: G54dsYZLrhBpo9DBGl9ryzQUKxe9DQ5YSbizIlUs1twMwhcB2m4ZgLS7lTzhJwgQUt X-TOI-MSGID: 679c9eac-2999-41b3-a098-75c69f89c56e X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Stainless steel versus copper Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002C_01CA5F83.90F21860" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01CA5F83.90F21860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi ! Is there any experience around about using stainless steel wires for toploads or feeders versus copper ? As to my knowledge there is a certain amount of rf current penetrating into the conductor at 137/500 kHz. Losses are expected to be high in lesser conductive materials at those frequencies. Any ideas about the order of magnitude in current fed antennas ? 73 de wolf df2py / di2bj ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01CA5F83.90F21860 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi !

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As to my knowledge there= is a certain amount of rf current penetrating into the conductor at 137/500 kHz. Losses are expe= cted to be high in lesser conductive materials at those frequencies. Any ideas= about the order of magnitude in current fed antennas ?

73 de wolf  df2py /= di2bj

------=_NextPart_000_002C_01CA5F83.90F21860-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA061-a6c4b07b6eb54; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:46:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA054-a6c4b07b6eb54; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:46:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBmX6-0003RZ-Pq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:45:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBmX6-0003RQ-CJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:45:32 +0000 Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBmX5-0006Nm-Pf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:45:32 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-3.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.3]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091121094526.BLWJ27507.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-3.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:45:26 +0000 Received: from [81.109.247.175] (helo=desktop) by know-smtpout-3.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBmWz-00081F-R0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:45:25 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: References: <017801ca66fb$0bf91c60$0517aac0@jimdesk> <20091118085815.7282031E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <02ac01ca6832$39e82890$0517aac0@jimdesk> <515CB1E53A2D4E02BBAB7B9E5E9CC0E8@JimPC> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:45:22 -0000 Message-ID: <001401ca6a8f$585937b0$0517aac0@desktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcpqNK5iu85z+vlNQKuBVwyxssNaHwAWf94g X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=wV9FcBFsAAAA:8 a=MDZQaXdsAAAA:8 a=yWXxG-5GONjUNCOzNHIA:9 a=8bOrpGOD2SoceM5kEtxiYrKqPEAA:4 a=KGHlO6L4b5AA:10 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=nhn505YfawQA:10 a=BYrvWSzc1cdK_V3L:21 a=wYf6je9EGSK5_HTc:21 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Andy I suspect its my drifty IC735! Poor old girl! With best regards Jim -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot Sent: 20 November 2009 22:55 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands Not sure if it is significant, or just tuning, but the log of G7NKS reports of me are about 40 - 50Hz low in frequency, and varying by a few Hz from hit-to-hit over the last few hours. Andy www.g4jnt.com This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health and safety police 2009/11/19 James Moritz : > Dear Jim, LF Group, > > FYI - Here is a spectrogram of G7NKS in WSPR recorded this evening, showing > the sidebands at +/-50Hz and +/-150Hz - I couldn't see any other spectral > components. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg03.mx.aol.com (rly-dg03.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.87]) by air-dg05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG051-5b34b01188b1f4; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 04:17:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG034-5b34b01188b1f4; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 04:17:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9xc2-0004Ea-3O for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:11:06 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9xc0-0004ER-U1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:11:05 +0000 Received: from mcgi65.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.199]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9xbx-00051s-Sa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:11:03 +0000 Received: from mcgi65.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi65.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40CB35CF1 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:10:56 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [91.77.88.87] by mcgi65.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:10:56 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:10:56 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <1043378010.1258326083.160784844.95853@mcgi39.rambler.ru> <57a24ca70911151614q7185951ud60c7e913ad36978@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: <763106576.1258362656.45967800.29836@mcgi65.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Who is it? 507.300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Warren! TNX for info! I tried to copy a trace up to mode-30, but nothing into my location. Will be trying to do agn! Do know what is his real freq? * Warren Ziegler [Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:14:28 -0500]: > Roman, > > That is Bob WE2XGR/6 (W2ZM) running 200W ERP frrom Rochester,NY > > > On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Roman RW3ADB wrote: > > > > Hi LF! > > What is a signal we can see around 507.300 kHz onto G4WGT grabber now? > > Who is it? > > Too many times I can see a CW-like trace on that freq every night. > > Between 507.3 and 507.4 are visible now. > > > > -- > > Roman RW3ADB. > > > > > -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMA054-8d14b12db58fd; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:36:50 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA103-8d14b12db58fd; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:36:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEqUZ-0003jv-Lo for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:35:35 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEqUY-0003jm-Mb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:35:34 +0000 Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEqUW-0005B0-Su for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:35:34 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-2.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.2]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091129203527.EILZ27507.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-2.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:35:27 +0000 Received: from [81.109.251.184] (helo=desktop) by know-smtpout-2.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEqUQ-0002LH-NV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:35:27 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:35:21 -0000 Message-ID: <013901ca7133$79a90030$0317aac0@desktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcpxM3hz7WoXSc9cQuuERTJuGG9Hcw== X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=W3tOLUehizD4qj6VhtReFuw5MKb8d+XqjIxlDsIazEA= c=1 sm=0 a=FBKOAGTJxRccOY8N5BEA:9 a=kfsuqkjfPXEmLpduRH35cZ3vs5cA:4 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=_vsG-Dl7aLqU7uoZim0A:9 a=zUYm_3TpdAP_p2wUvfwA:7 a=5MPm6skMczokM2jle1fnM-URw60A:4 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: G7NKS now QRT Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_013A_01CA7133.79A90030" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_013A_01CA7133.79A90030 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit RTTY test beacon now QRT. 73s Jim G7NKS ------=_NextPart_000_013A_01CA7133.79A90030 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

RTTY test beacon now QRT.&= nbsp;

 

73s

 

Jim G7NKS

------=_NextPart_000_013A_01CA7133.79A90030-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD082-b6e4b0b012bae; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:40:10 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD038-b6e4b0b012bae; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:39:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCgcc-0002Vt-Lh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:38:58 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCgcc-0002Vk-43 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:38:58 +0000 Received: from mailt.toya.net.pl ([217.113.224.9] ident=postfix) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCgca-0005Wv-EY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:38:58 +0000 Received: from mail.toya.net.pl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.toya.net.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D0692000006D for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:38:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.103] (unknown [10.11.152.246]) (Authenticated sender: unimlyn) by mail.toya.net.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8ACAB20000044 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:38:55 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B0B00EE.9050407@toya.net.pl> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:38:54 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Piotr_M=B3ynarski?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4B09D502.8030200@toya.net.pl>,<006101ca6bd9$9ab3cb70$0900a8c0@lark> <7C21B1DD169746B0967307E2AB9E7FDD@JimPC> In-Reply-To: <7C21B1DD169746B0967307E2AB9E7FDD@JimPC> X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: N-turn TX Loop Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) James Moritz wrote: > Dear Piotr, LF Group, > > Considering only the conductor losses for the moment, in principle > increasing the number of turns of the loop by a factor N increases the > radiation resistance by approximately N^2, while the loss resistance > of the conductors increases by approximately N times, giving an > improvement in efficiency of a factor N. However, if you instead > connected the same N turns in parallel, you would have a single-turn > loop with N parallel conductors, with a loss resistance 1/N times that > of a single conductor loop, but with the same radiation resistance. > This would also give rise to the same N times efficiency improvement. > So from the conductor loss point of view, increasing the number of > conductors in the loop should improve efficiency by much the same > amount, it would not matter much whether the turns are connected in > series or parallel. > > However, the multi-turn loop inductance is also approximately > proportional to N^2, if the turns are fairly close together. The > current in the multi-turn loop will be reduced by a factor of N to > achieve the same radiated power. Most of the loop impedance is due to > its inductance, so the overall voltage across the loop will increase > by a factor of N for the same radiated power.This means a greater > electric field strength around the antenna, and so increased > environmental losses due to the multiple turns - dielectric loss > increases as the square of the applied electric field. So assuming a > constant value of environmental loss (1.5ohm in your calculation) is > not realistic, if a significant proportion of this resistance is due > to dielectric losses, which is probably the case for most practical > antennas. Probably the main virtue of the transmitting loop is the > reduced environmental loss due to it being a relatively low-impedance, > low-voltage device. so to maintain this advantage, it would seem to be > a better idea to have multiple parallel turns rather than series turns. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > Dear Jim, LF Group I do thank you for your comprehensive answer. In particular, I did like your remarks concerning the contribution of increased dielectric losses ( as one increases the number of turns) in the overall environmental loss. In some way it is still an open issue but as you've said, from the point of view of practical antenna design , each tenth of Ohm counts... 73 de Piotr, sq7mpj qth: Lodz /jo91rs/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de09.mx.aol.com (rly-de09.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.145]) by air-de06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE061-4fd4afbc07c33e; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:00:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE092-4fd4afbc07c33e; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:59:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8UZi-0005kj-FI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:58:38 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8UZh-0005ka-U2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:58:37 +0000 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.155]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8UZf-000238-AQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:58:37 +0000 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so859085fga.10 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:58:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=eLTG9PIH3/Xc0fJceubkAI/20S3HskZlYFgv+6j+DE4=; b=JzzPun6QJCc8WVJpOvgyQjn0Q+JCrOpdZUf2zYlkq7z42JcQPWOxAjKjNT2qgiAxTT Q0KeQlJLi04mnbRP6S1NAGqsSWDjGxA9vb854Sfn9EYW8FrSl6QbRZzCyGP1nScEUFat X9hOlnSIrsfUJlaCoMvmrAZCgl5QRXHgsiw90= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=vzJTX00cDkqVljccuuZI9cdc6IbMN95d7TxU2jpUIluJEFmc7mP4QfP7rfT/4GmM5V YXk6y6WcvVSjcTMQtWeQ/SeBnLyJRp2XhooqkCu4jaPzJk6nKbqlypDa0ccj5Cqh6c+n okjQ//QH3JwoQBCe+APffIFuAd99mowcy8TSI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.183.37 with SMTP id s37mr270811hbg.90.1258012713179; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:58:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <789669B7117F49968285748B0E5D9871@AGB> References: <789669B7117F49968285748B0E5D9871@AGB> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:58:33 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: Re: LF: 2009-11-09 09:12 G4JNT 0.503849 -23 0 IO90iv 0.2 K1JT Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f79482e45a0a047827e88b X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m260.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001485f79482e45a0a047827e88b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I queried a few instances on this some months ago, and several stations sugegsted the log was genuine. They're in the database, and can be found by searching with callsign and reporter filters set. Those roughly coincided with being heard by A1AA, which is more likely to be genuine. Andy www.g4jnt.com this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny state 2009/11/11 Graham > This report is -NOT- confirmed by K1JT , > Most likely is reporting station has not > set the station details and the default > settings are still in place > > WSPR version 2 is due for release soon > default settings will be 'blank' to prevent > this in the future > > G .. > > > > *From:* Graham > *Sent:* Monday, November 09, 2009 8:53 PM > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* LF: 2009-11-09 09:12 G4JNT 0.503849 -23 0 IO90iv 0.2 K1JT FN20 > 5599 288 > > 2009-11-09 09:12 > G4JNT 0.503849 -23 0 IO90iv 0.2 K1JT FN20 5599 288 > > At 09-12 ... amazing ! > > G .. > > > > > --001485f79482e45a0a047827e88b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I queried a few instances on this some months ago, and several statio= ns sugegsted the log was genuine.=A0 They're in the database, and can= be found by searching with callsign and reporter filters set.=A0=A0=A0 Th= ose roughly coincided with being heard by A1AA, which is more likely to be= genuine.

Andy
www.g4jnt.= com

this email has been scanned for political correctness by th= e nanny state


2009/11/11 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>=
This report is -NOT- confirmed by K1J= T ,
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set the=A0station =A0details and the= =A0 default
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WSPR version 2 is=A0 due=A0 for=A0 re= lease soon
default settings will be 'blank&#= 39; to=A0 prevent
this in the=A0 future
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From: Graham
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 8:53 PM
Subject: LF: 2009-11-09 09:12 G4JNT 0.503849 -23 0 IO90iv 0.2= K1JT FN20 5599 288

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 =A0G4JNT=A0 =A00.503849=A0 =A0-23=A0 =A00=A0 =A0IO90iv=A0 =A00.2=A0 =A0K1JT=A0 =A0FN20=A0 =A05599=A0 =A0288=A0
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--001485f79482e45a0a047827e88b-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC061-b2e4af9a176284; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:23:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC072-b2e4af9a176284; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:23:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7uPg-0007sd-Nx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:21:52 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7uPf-0007sU-T1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:21:51 +0000 Received: from smtp816.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.245]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7uPd-0004VE-6A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:21:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 43319 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2009 17:21:39 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=2tY5sH17lsJ+YQzdQxN6xx9coJ7PyVNakBTaVB5j+ZkmrpbxJeyJoKi+LMMwY3bzudREDkt1MN2D+jFJQfsDwj3QUDziIEDEr0VggDWsOooxgqTRJZC2xUONlD4UcNXbQqO25V0ANFGgJzl3YL+zo6SMcKKgxKMziRMinAWEH0o= ; Received: from unknown (HELO DennisPC) (dennis.easterling@86.157.175.252 with login) by smtp816.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Nov 2009 17:21:39 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: H_MJu2qswBDkdHeCAZfwexko6VNOiMP5URzYEvz3WrE5v1grQm6fnvJecjM9 X-YMail-OSG: eQI.4LsVM1ka4EteswPWVWXR9TGStBzaCh9lbkTgbQssa6mP6ZIDAheZOLJVLMysMK.ic1B_J2pkVVRvofCheuvvcelHBi6pFKgfVClORM.iiXe.oR2YDwyrjKqDKVbBUQDwtxiVR9bzCCD03DRUCznLpCQRUHj0YpBIYsE_ru6YDdPGuaO1hcrSDH30Cbzzkb8RVTCaREz5sZnSD1nxh4TuibF9vKJEwRRNWC2xtM3SB27yVoU4ShNNioM2azqeI5onrRLCXXj97A0VzP4p4ZSPdlhcDycaMK4- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "DENNIS EASTERLING" To: References: <112811.74996.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001b01ca6225$fcddd970$0617aac0@jimdesk> In-Reply-To: <001b01ca6225$fcddd970$0617aac0@jimdesk> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:21:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0027_01CA622A.41239580" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING, LINES_OF_YELLING_2,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01CA622A.41239580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jim I was speaking figuratively as you are so near and on my xtl frequency= . My comment was directed at Chris' statment in email subject1000 QS= Os, who also suffers and others who have complained about beacons in= general. In fact the band is often dead for hours on end and it is= nice to find any signal, beacon or QSO, especially when testing. My= point is that is there should be room for both beacons and QSOs, th= en follows a suggestion that LFrs may like to come to some agreement= about reserving a section for each mode. Hoping I did not offend, 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: James Cowburn=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 4:51 PM Subject: LF: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Hi Dennis =20 I did not realize I was causing you QRM. A quick e-mail would have= alerted me to it, rather than me being a "pain". I'm happy to work= out a compromise where we operate at separate times or if you suggest= a different frequency for me to work on. Just drop me a line with you= r ideas on this. =20 With best regards =20 =20 Jim =20 =20 Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group= @blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of DENNIS EASTERLING Sent: 10 November 2009 16:13 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO =20 Congratulations Chris. =20 Most wspr stations seem to congregate at the top end of the band and= are not too much trouble. Jim G7NKS is the biggest pain as he sits= on my xtl frequency and is so close. Maybe a compromise would be fo= r people using beacons to keep to one segment of the band (hopefully= not 502.2 kHz -hee) =20 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Chris Osborn=20 To: LF Group=20 Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 6:03 PM Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO =20 LF It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 60= 0m. This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were= 600m / 80m. Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and= EI0CF - No. 998. QSO break-down according to mode: 928 CW, 34 RTTY and 5 QR= SS 600m STATIONS My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and= many of these go back to the start of the UK 600m allocation in Marc= h 2007. Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excludi= ng beacons). Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard= of again: G3KZU, G3YHV . . . Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT: G3UN= T, G3VTT, G4GDR. . . MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the= same stations many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of= my total contacts. My most frequently worked stations are: GW3UEP - 120 G3KEV - 102 M0FMT - 90 G3ZWH - 80 (al= as now SK) G3DXZ - 67 G4GDR - 60 EI0CF/ GI4DPE - 51 M0JXM= - 48 G3UNT - 45 G3VTT - 38 CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a= cross-band QSO: DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . . and our few EU MF friends are still active: ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . . WSPR ON 600m I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for= the WSPR mode was never achieved for hand sent Morse (CW), which aft= er all is the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF ma= rine band. If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stati= ons operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band= then I guess it may be time for me to QSY. 73 Chris G3XIZ =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01CA622A.41239580 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Jim
 
I was speaking figuratively as you ar= e so near=20 and on my xtl frequency.   My comment was directed= at Chris'=20 statment in email subject1000 QSOs, who also suffers and others= who have=20 complained about beacons in general.   In fact the band is= often dead=20 for hours on end and it is nice to find any signal, beacon or QSO, esp= ecially=20 when testing.  My point is that  is there should be room=20 for both beacons and QSOs,  then follows a suggest= ion that=20 LFrs may like to come to some agreement about reserving a se= ction for=20 each mode.
 
Hoping I did not offend, 73 Dennis=20 M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 10,= 2009 4:51=20 PM
Subject: LF: RE: Re: G3XIZ -= 1000 th MF=20 QSO

Hi=20 Dennis

&= nbsp;

I did= not realize I=20 was causing you QRM.  A quick e-mail would have alerted me to= it, rather=20 than me being a =93pain=94.   I=92m happy to work out a co= mpromise where=20 we operate at separate times or if you suggest a different frequency= for me to=20 work on. Just drop me a line with your ideas on=20 this.

&= nbsp;

With= best=20 regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

Dr. Ja= mes Cowburn=20 G7NKS<= FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>

From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshe= ep.org] On= Behalf Of DENNIS=20 EASTERLING
Sent:= 10 November=20 2009 16:13
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject:<= /B> LF: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF=20 QSO

 

Congratulations=20 Chris.

 

Most wspr stations seem to=20 congregate at the top end of the band and are not too much=20 trouble.    Jim G7NKS is the biggest pain as he sits= on my xtl=20 frequency and is so close.   Maybe a compromise would be= for people=20 using beacons to keep to one segment of the band (hopefully not 502.= 2 kHz=20 -hee)

 

73 Dennis=20 M0JXM

----- Original Message -----= =20

From:= = Chris Osborn=20

To: LF Group= =20

Sent: Sunday,=20 November 08, 2009 6:03 PM

Subject= : LF:=20 G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO

 

LF
<= BR>It was a red-letter day today=20 as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m.
This includes 72 cross-= band=20 contacts, virtually all of which were 600m / 80m.

Rog GW3UE= P was my=20 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0CF - No. 998.
QSO=20 break-down according to mode:     928 CW,  34= RTTY =20 and   5 QRSS

600m STATIONS

My perso= nal 600m=20 (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many of these go back=20 to the start of the UK  600m allocation in March 2007.
Of= these I=20 have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding beacons)= .
Many=20 stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of= =20 again:  G3KZU, G3YHV . . .
Others were once very active bu= t have=20 subsequently gone QRT:  G3UNT, G3VTT, G4GDR. . .

MO= ST=20 FREQUENTLY WORKED

With so few active operators it is ob= vious that=20 one will work the same stations many times and the top 10 stations= account=20 for 70% of my total contacts.
My most frequently worked station= s=20 are:

GW3UEP - 120     G3KEV -=20 102      M0FMT - 90   &nbs= p;=20 G3ZWH  -  80  (alas now SK)
G3DXZ  &nb= sp;=20 -   67     G4GDR -  =20 60      EI0CF/ GI4DPE  -  51&nb= sp; =20 M0JXM - 48
G3UNT    -  =20 45     G3VTT  -   38

= CROSS-BAND=20 AND EU STATIONS

There are a few 'regular' stations who= listen to=20 600m and enjoy a cross-band QSO:
DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ,= PA0LCE,=20 G3TVF . . .

and our few EU MF friends are still active:
= ON4KTJ,=20 OR7T and OZ8NJ. . .

WSPR ON 600m

I personally= find it=20 sad that the present level of enthusiasm for the WSPR mode was nev= er=20 achieved for  hand sent Morse (CW), which after all is the mo= de which I=20 call to mind when thinking of the old MF marine band.
If the WS= PR=20 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stations operatin= g 24/7 in=20 the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band then I guess it ma= y be time=20 for me to QSY.

73 Chris=20 G3XIZ






 

------=_NextPart_000_0027_01CA622A.41239580-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da06.mx.aol.com (rly-da06.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.80]) by air-da03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA032-a734b05905c7; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:37:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA063-a734b05905c7; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:37:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBBrQ-00023n-71 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:36:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBBrP-00023e-Mt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:36:03 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBBrO-0001Ot-UX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:36:03 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3412.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 60C9F1C00084 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:35:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3412.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 53A061C00085 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:35:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.37.171]) by mwinf3412.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id ACC8E1C00084 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:35:52 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091119183552707.ACC8E1C00084@mwinf3412.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <955F0C15833A459FA2557314E925534C@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <4B0570B4.8040209@telia.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:35:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR 2.0 is now available Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 All I asked Joe K1JT , this question a short time ago, below is the reply G .. > Q : Is there a means to > compensate for the sound card sampling rate? , No, but I think an even better feature. The sample rate in WSPR 2.0 will always be 48000 Hz. This will prevent a problem that occurs in a few systems that insist on sampling at 44100 Hz and then resampling (in the driver) to the 12000 Hz requested by WSPR 1.2 ... and doing a *very* poor job of the resampling. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Andy Talbot" Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 5:29 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: WSPR 2.0 is now available > > It has a calibration procedure built in, but as far as I can make out, > is aimed at solving frequency offset / tuning errors. I may have > missed something, but there seems to be no facility to calibrate for > soundcard errors in the same way as WSJT does, which can affect symbol > timing . As we found in discussion on theis reflector a year or so > ago. Sample rate timing error is enough to destroy WSPR decoding > even when signals are strong. > > May be wrong, and will go and re read the appendices associated with > calibration, but no mention is made, specifically, of soundcard > sampling rate error - only refrences to frequency error. > FOrtunately, as WSPR is designed around 12000Hz sampling, this is > rarely out by more than a few ppm in most modern cards. See my > Column in the latest RadCom for some soundcard sampling rate > measurements - and how bad some are > > > Andy > www.g4jnt.com > > This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health > and safety police > > > > 2009/11/19 Johan Bodin : >> >> http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/ >> >> >> 73 >> Johan SM6LKM >> >> >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me04.mx.aol.com (rly-me04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.38]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINME082-9b04b14086a254; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:01:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME044-9b04b14086a254; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:01:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NFAXI-0007Yy-Up for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:59:44 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NFAXI-0007Yp-FM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:59:44 +0000 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NFAXH-0003yT-OT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:59:44 +0000 Received: from aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091130175938.VOCI17277.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:59:38 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.33] (really [82.22.242.219]) by aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20091130175938.VWRF2093.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.2.33]> for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:59:38 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:59:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4B140806.10012.1E82610@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=1ggfb5FlKZQUfF3vzm9UBYZ2uTfLsbs/8dSljwg5+mE= c=1 sm=0 a=9YlaCzn6_68A:10 a=VFWQ4dp1e2jwoXO1SVUA:9 a=fEDwzic-hy9uF4hps_m4iu30FKwA:4 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: DX test 136.318kHz Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 I will be transmitting "XDV" overnight (1800 - 0900 UTC) tonight using QRSS60 on 136.3180kHz. DX reports are welcome. Mike. G3XDV ========== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg04.mx.aol.com (rly-dg04.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.88]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG074-5be4afdda18352; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:13:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG045-5be4afdda18352; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:13:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N94Ng-0005lo-Qw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:12:36 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N94Ng-0005lf-5t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:12:36 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.128]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N94Ne-0008Nw-BS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:12:36 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3417.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E2EF61C00082 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:12:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3417.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D59DC1C00084 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:12:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.59.9]) by mwinf3417.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 8B9631C00082 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:12:28 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091113221228571.8B9631C00082@mwinf3417.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <016001ca64a7$959b4f20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <016001ca64a7$959b4f20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:12:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Spam-Score: 3.2 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,EXTRA_MPART_TYPE=0.815,FUZZY_OCR_WRONG_CTYPE=1.500,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=0.93,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Proper morse Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0177_01CA64AE.5CCF0A40" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0177_01CA64AE.5CCF0A40 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0178_01CA64AE.5CCF0A40" ------=_NextPart_001_0178_01CA64AE.5CCF0A40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable PROPER MORSE on the 500 K/cs band on the 12/05/09 at 2007 ...=20 Ah yes , that was a Tuesday , remember it well, right proper morse= it was too , went on for blinking ages, right in the middle of the= band, one of those fangled pc keying thingy's, splashing about like= a puppy in a puddle, happy days, don't see much now.. From: mal hamilton=20 Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 9:23 PM To: rsgb=20 Subject: LF: Proper morse Some person from the Shetlands said he never heard PROPER MORSE from= G4DMP. I worked G4DMP using PROPER MORSE on the 500 K/cs band on the 12/05/09= at 2007 utc. Could the said person be a WSPR PIRATE ? G3KEV ------=_NextPart_001_0178_01CA64AE.5CCF0A40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
PROPER MORSE on the 500 K/cs band on= =20 the 12/05/09 at 2007  ... 
 
Ah yes , that was a Tuesday , re= member=20 it  well,  right proper morse it was too  ,= went on=20 for  blinking ages, right in the  middle of the  band,= one of=20 those fangled pc keying thingy's, splashing about like a  puppy= in a=20 puddle, happy days, don't see much now..
 
 
 
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 9:23 PM
To: rsgb
Subject: LF: Proper morse

Some person from the Shetlands said= he never heard=20 PROPER MORSE from G4DMP.
I worked G4DMP using PROPER MORSE on= the 500 K/cs=20 band on the 12/05/09 at 2007 utc.
Could the said person be a WSPR= PIRATE=20 ?
G3KEV
 


------=_NextPart_001_0178_01CA64AE.5CCF0A40-- ------=_NextPart_000_0177_01CA64AE.5CCF0A40 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Emoticon1.gif" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-ID: R0lGODlhEwATALMPAPXv3v3pTvDHOei2K9u4a9qoLunPkLGLMdOZKfvbQMeyl5p4J+7Jbreb XoAyGAAAACH5BAEAAA8ALAAAAAATABMAAASu8EkJDBNjMAOmf5UgJEGQJBj3AVfpuslAdBRD vu8p04YQCIuFrzQIDgQFA2i4AAAWruYTgwiVFopnNCsUICy3hUMBvY67hcYwIHaU2Q43ZnAY uIDCUixYmC8GNzgmJyIZBQcXgYMnKIUDCA09jA4FgCcFCA4ZdFlHl5SbmQiGBx0GR0iZcXEI o5wUBH1ImK2tGQcNNCCxm70Dh7krBq2VvwgHB1kfExUNBwu4yh4RADs= ------=_NextPart_000_0177_01CA64AE.5CCF0A40-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md04.mx.aol.com (rly-md04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.142]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD102-9004b071e9721a; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:56:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD048-9004b071e9721a; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:56:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBcNt-00021h-P5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:55:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBcNt-00021Y-Cd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:55:21 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f211.google.com ([209.85.220.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBcNs-0003O4-Pw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:55:21 +0000 Received: by fxm3 with SMTP id 3so4379112fxm.4 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:55:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Vg2Vi+d3YUZ/eV5NrI6pbbDB5ICOFNrIqDwMaKlBZ4A=; b=P8bUn0PB68pdTK5I9dFkVk82YM/tdkSyhkm4TDLq/8yYDTx/sA2UK0uGV1FiuCHhGe 1Puf747NTDkyS/T7RuvNATKgdmuk9surRuToRsfXUlY3A97tN770PixlzIIyC+mulokU 3tbF5deL+Cp3BT7ZpFrwXrBpUPIr24NCxG9Bw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=mZpsqOZ9TcMzcCXD1ErfiBBT6qCKxuwmdxhNh26iMQijIiCUrzT05Iy1n3I0mVdIbO 8JOVBTtcFqLd41P/VhP+fbd0bsXYH4ilyflAz9igfTAhCMfuWqmYPpFFY/1ZVVhltrjK ISPuBY7ShIyGAEt/lYBsw+B2fKqC+3amowIOY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.163.205 with SMTP id q13mr206263hbd.132.1258757714784; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:55:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <017801ca66fb$0bf91c60$0517aac0@jimdesk> <20091118085815.7282031E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <02ac01ca6832$39e82890$0517aac0@jimdesk> <515CB1E53A2D4E02BBAB7B9E5E9CC0E8@JimPC> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:55:14 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m215.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Not sure if it is significant, or just tuning, but the log of G7NKS reports of me are about 40 - 50Hz low in frequency, and varying by a few Hz from hit-to-hit over the last few hours. Andy www.g4jnt.com This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health and safety police 2009/11/19 James Moritz : > Dear Jim, LF Group, > > FYI - Here is a spectrogram of G7NKS in WSPR recorded this evening, showing > the sidebands at +/-50Hz and +/-150Hz - I couldn't see any other spectral > components. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (rly-dc01.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.30]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC104-afd4b06ae7e24f; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:58:17 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC011-afd4b06ae7e24f; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:58:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBUv4-0006g4-Er for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:57:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBUv3-0006fv-SX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:57:05 +0000 Received: from out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.243]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBUv3-0008Nm-9w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:57:05 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgcFAEg9BktZ8e8W/2dsb2JhbACCJiuGS4RqBsZahDwE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,777,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="242084683" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([89.241.239.22]) by out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 20 Nov 2009 14:56:59 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01ca69f1$b5e614f0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:56:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: cq Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01CA69F1.B5A33F90" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01CA69F1.B5A33F90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Now cq 137 .0 cw and tuning for calls mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01CA69F1.B5A33F90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Now cq 137 .0 cw and tuning for calls=
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------=_NextPart_000_0009_01CA69F1.B5A33F90-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA093-a964b00484f3d3; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:28:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA106-a964b00484f3d3; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:28:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9jpC-00086k-9r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:27:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9jpB-00086b-Ui for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:27:45 +0000 Received: from mailout1.go2.pl ([193.17.41.11]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9jpB-0002DY-Al for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:27:45 +0000 Received: from mailout1.go2.pl (unknown [10.0.0.104]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8C8A3001A for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:27:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from o2.pl (unknown [10.0.0.67]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:27:44 +0100 (CET) From: bxi@go2.pl To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <4B0027F5.3060603@xs4all.nl> References: <000a01ca65ec$16f199e0$6402a8c0@e7010> <4B0027F5.3060603@xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4027d401.32bdadee.4b00481f.9684d@go2.pl Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:27:43 +0100 X-Originator: 89.76.56.60 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 2.3 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,INVALID_MSGID=1.71,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,SUBJECT_EXCESS_QP=0 Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_LF:_DI2AG_WSPR?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=INVALID_MSGID,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear Walter, LF Good copy your beacon: 1804 -10 1.7 0.505013 0 DI2AG JN59 27 1812 -14 1.4 0.505013 0 DI2AG JN59 27 1818 -10 1.5 0.505013 0 DI2AG JN59 27 73! Marcin SQ2BXI in SP2KDS Club: antenna longwire 120m long, 30m hight > Walter und Marianne Staubach wrote: > > Dear MF, > > DI2AG is already on air in WSPR. QRG 505.090KHz, PWR 0.4W ERP.= =20 > > Duty cycle 33%. The beacon will be busy until tomorrow morning. > > 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF >=20 > Walter > 1546 -28 1.4 0.505089 0 DI2AG JN59 27 > 73 de Ko, NL9222 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD093-9074afd9ef0239; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:01:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD057-9074afd9ef0239; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:01:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N90RL-0004Az-DN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:00:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N90RK-0004Ai-8Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:00:06 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N90RJ-0008FH-6j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:00:06 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3523.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D299D1C00085 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:59:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3523.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C40371C00086 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:59:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk (unknown [91.107.139.243]) by mwinf3523.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 796961C00085 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:59:56 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091113175956497.796961C00085@mwinf3523.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <5MsXcPDG6Z$KFw8w@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:59:34 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: David Pratt References: <00df01ca6488$e9244a80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <00df01ca6488$e9244a80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-M () X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: PIRATES Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1;format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) In a recent message, mal hamilton wrote ... >500 in EU seems to be a fun band for WSPR Beacons where no operator >participation is required just unattended=A0machines belching out bits of >data and generating QRM to the few Radio amateurs trying to get by on >CW. Not from the UK, Mal, as beacon operation is not permitted unless it is=20 specifically shown on the Special Research Permit (NoV). Without the=20 NoV, we can only operate beacons for the purpose of direction finding=20 contests on specific frequencies and bands as given in Schedule 2 of our= =20 licence and the notes appended thereto. My NoV does not authorise me to operate a beacon so my operation is=20 limited to CW using proper Morse ;-) 73 David G4DMP --=20 +- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | David M Pratt, Kippax, Leeds, UK | | http://www.g4dmp.co.uk | +- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (rly-mf01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.171]) by air-mf01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF014-9404afbd3cf252; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:22:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF016-9404afbd3cf252; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:22:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8Vre-00064N-Bh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:21:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8Vrd-00064E-UZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:21:13 +0000 Received: from relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net ([212.159.7.36]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8Vqz-0004UN-Mq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:20:34 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhgLANBi+0rUnw4R/2dsb2JhbACBSIkZhm7KW4Q8BA Received: from pih-relay04.plus.net ([212.159.14.17]) by relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 12 Nov 2009 09:20:56 +0000 Received: from [212.159.90.113] (helo=Hugh) by pih-relay04.plus.net with smtp (Exim) id 1N8VrL-00041u-T1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:20:56 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Hugh_m0wye" To: Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:20:18 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Plusnet-Relay: 5a0381c0b64b450471a27a7e493da30d X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: LF: Inductor datasheets Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 While on the subject of ferrites and identifying them, Anglia have published a 176 page data book bringing together datasheets from various inductor manufacturers. It's free to download, as is their capacitor and resistor databook. http://www.anglia.com/literature/literature.aspx 73 Hugh M0WYE From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB104-ab64b0951c43a5; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:59:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB034-ab64b0951c43a5; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:59:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCDtG-0003JP-3h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:58:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCDtF-0003JG-NH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:58:13 +0000 Received: from smtp825.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.235]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCDtD-0004Uc-Vt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:58:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 99528 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2009 14:58:05 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=KFjr8PRc2jpxd+309PDWr8WvKHqR8rJ8sD0gaXsLmKHW5bOGHaZXqnyD1OpDAaIuSs7AekbSca5AKysZ/9rI8XKgcf9SddtfKHLiiBTjxAe2jpBEj7LeC9Cl1dwVTYqTj2Kx7OdljI/vYDcr03CxAWfs0X2Ze8leV+A5HsNxhMw= ; Received: from unknown (HELO IBM7FFA209F07C) (c.ashby435@86.169.134.247 with login) by smtp825.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Nov 2009 14:58:05 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: 9STUSnaswBBSd6nO_2gAC20jmYlWRjmg8d5iYd8s.rl181aR6Sw- X-YMail-OSG: rTGx_ZUVM1ljdt5rFW.W_Ke44QOeiDqwwg2Q6pUn8knj4SlJs3NxFtSTSQMrlqzyoKWobUjWEtc2kgbhmZi95nhg4Cc8JEUnI8x2cKbDZTw7swWTPGVcSO5WBDBORA5UE5sRxQVQJZEFQj4pdQpmuUUZMZLYgBy270IlErKH0zJp97T94vEmm3ExGPME0xglROXJMI0NKk0pH7m0pFU6R9QGAps.uYb8.wXV4_y.cELYjISID_NoNZuV9reInf.qbMx_vKVpCpN_696plLzwPfAjPhkNBP8OUCN2 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "Chris" To: "RSGB LF Group" Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:58:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 136/7 Reception Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007C_01CA6B84.326D7610" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.3 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 ------=_NextPart_000_007C_01CA6B84.326D7610 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_007D_01CA6B84.326D7610" ------=_NextPart_001_007D_01CA6B84.326D7610 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Excellent copy today of DK2FC/P, and G3XDV last night just before he= closed down (capture attached of XDV). 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Excellent copy today of DK2FC/P, and= G3XDV last=20 night just before he closed down (capture attached of XDV).
Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent,=20 JO01MI.
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John Rabson F5VLF 58800 Cervon France JN17vg From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDD041-b654b1255aa2ba; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:06:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD027-b654b1255aa2ba; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:06:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEhaY-0000Lh-Rq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:05:10 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEhaY-0000LY-3y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:05:10 +0000 Received: from n14.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.41]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEhaX-0001nQ-Jk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:05:10 +0000 Received: from [68.142.200.226] by n14.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2009 11:05:02 -0000 Received: from [68.142.201.242] by t7.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2009 11:05:02 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp403.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2009 11:05:02 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 691115.10734.bm@omp403.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 22811 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2009 11:05:02 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=ZGlGKzC67fs+nhIfet5sG5LifjID2ldUX2eVZ1XqGDVLMzqY2DO6bTWORoBSspQyTQntx/DdWOd55KFGF+vjtjD0iUP2DhGo08WGxmUm5OF9dJLk4KhNQnH9n9L6rghfNq1EpAtQTE8eprAoau9r/lZiYf2cdEPPD5KIbnoaRXU= ; Received: from host86-138-92-60.range86-138.btcentralplus.com (ken.h.wright@86.138.92.60 with login) by smtp144.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2009 03:05:02 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: 9Y6mUHuswBAgnrOsukIiNdFDf95uy_Dz34nY1hlg2liKgYD952sjbg-- X-YMail-OSG: 5DhfNUUVM1lRAUcEhraM7odEpMCIeFhyrgnjfC2PBJYjC5PCgVRuUJYM31PVJJuI7x5C7.3cEzp1Op_qeU9ZD1.WGLP96RUdTufDFyn_EJigiAwwegxgdNwY2GqlK4cvGgAvjVareCwPSnQoJDtdPw9Wge2xqDaJ0CP3AJBfjbMzWlG1mmaIqUKmS05_CAvkzuQelhAmaYQHFK6nz6sORdRN0GmiGdMkWgkDQivbEI2IYAGOLYK264zomMaJjqfmNB.oQMmSbRCk7EdRnSx6geVKFVndDJ8g32Xs_ttIUzT6ORyeT5XOFQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <2746F3E144D3480AB85CD466920B1313@lindavideo> From: "Ken" To: Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:04:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: 4kv diode Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0028_01CA70E3.CAFC4D20" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01CA70E3.CAFC4D20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello All. I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or equivalent diode, BY4 4kv @ 1A, BY6= 6kv @ 1A, I have searched the web and looked in Farnell, any ideas= please. 73. Ken M0KHW =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01CA70E3.CAFC4D20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello All.
I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or equi= valent diode,=20 BY4   4kv @ 1A, BY6  6kv @ 1A, I have searched the web= and looked=20 in Farnell, any ideas please.
 
73.
Ken
 
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<= /BODY> ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01CA70E3.CAFC4D20-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df08.mx.aol.com (rly-df08.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.21]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF071-56d4aed3e9f59; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 02:54:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF084-56d4aed3e9f59; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 02:54:08 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N4VFC-0002cH-93 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 07:52:58 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N4VFB-0002c8-HV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 07:52:57 +0000 Received: from smtp05.online.nl ([194.134.41.35]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N4VEx-0005Hb-Cu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 07:52:45 +0000 Received: from smtp05.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp05.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2FD75206A for ; Sun, 1 Nov 2009 08:52:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (s5593e077.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.147.224.119]) by smtp05.online.nl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 1 Nov 2009 08:52:42 +0100 (CET) From: To: Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 08:52:42 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <9afca2640910291656s5d215e81j7cfbe8316501e7de@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp05.online.nl) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: RE: Overnight session on 500kHz WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0025_01CA5AD0.AC6925F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_30_40, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01CA5AD0.AC6925F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Roger, 2 positive decodes in PA-land, 73 Victor PA3FNY JO22NC 0302 -29 1.4 0.503860 -1 G7NKS IO92 20 0306 -8 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 0310 -25 1.7 0.503860 -1 G7NKS IO92 20 0312 -10 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 0322 -19 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 0322 -24 1.4 0.503861 -1 G7NKS IO92 20 0326 -8 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 0326 -29 2.4 0.503925 0 G3XBM JO02 0 0330 -8 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 0336 -15 0.4 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 0342 -11 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 0442 -13 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 0446 -10 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 0452 -3 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 0500 -5 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 0506 -9 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 0506 -29 2.4 0.503924 0 G3XBM JO02 0 0508 -25 1.6 0.503861 -1 G7NKS IO92 20 0512 -7 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 0516 -22 1.2 0.503860 -1 G7NKS IO92 20 0522 -14 0.3 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 0526 -6 0.2 0.503850 0 G4JNT IO90 23 -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Roger Lapthorn Verzonden: vrijdag 30 oktober 2009 0:57 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: LF: Overnight session on 500kHz WSPR With eight unique stations copying me so far this evening I'm going to leave the <1mW ERP 500kHz WSPR beaconing running overnight in the hope that I can get a 20th station to copy me. I'd love to be received by Gus SM6BHZ in Sweden and this is <100kms further than John GM4SLV in the Shetlands, so is not an impossibility on a good night. We live on hope, optimism and good luck! 73s Roger G3XBM ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01CA5AD0.AC6925F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello=20 Roger,
 
2=20 positive decodes in PA-land,
 
73
Victor
PA3FNY
JO22NC
 
 
0302=20 -29  1.4   0.503860 -1 G7NKS IO92 20
0306  -8&n= bsp;=20 0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0310 -25  1.7&n= bsp; =20 0.503860 -1 G7NKS IO92 20
0312 -10  0.3   0.503850&n= bsp; 0=20 G4JNT IO90 23
0322 -19  0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT= IO90=20 23
0322 -24  1.4   0.503861 -1 G7NKS IO92 20
0326=  =20 -8  0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0326 -29&nb= sp;=20 2.4   0.503925  0 G3XBM JO02 0
0330  -8 = =20 0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0336 -15  0.4&n= bsp; =20 0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0342 -11  0.3   0.503= 850 =20 0 G4JNT IO90 23
0442=20 -13  0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0446 -10&n= bsp;=20 0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0452  -3 = =20 0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0500  -5 = =20 0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0506  -9 = =20 0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0506 -29  2.4&n= bsp; =20 0.503924  0 G3XBM JO02 0
0508 -25  1.6   0.5038= 61 -1=20 G7NKS IO92 20
0512  -7  0.3   0.503850  0= G4JNT IO90=20 23
0516 -22  1.2   0.503860 -1 G7NKS IO92 20
0522= -14 =20 0.3   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
0526  -6 = =20 0.2   0.503850  0 G4JNT IO90 23
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van:= =20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Roger=20 Lapthorn
Verzonden: vrijdag 30 oktober 2009 0:57
Aan= :=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: LF: Overnight sess= ion on=20 500kHz WSPR

With eight unique stations copying= me so far=20 this evening I'm going to leave the <1mW ERP 500kHz WSPR beaconin= g=20 running overnight in the hope that I can get a 20th station= to copy me.=20

I'd love to be received by Gus SM6BHZ in Sweden and= this is=20 <100kms further than John GM4SLV in the Shetlands, so is not an= =20 impossibility on a good night.

We live on hope, optimism and= good=20 luck!

73s
Roger=20 G3XBM
 
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http://= g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
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G3XBM  =20  GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088
------=_NextPart_000_0025_01CA5AD0.AC6925F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me07.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINME072-9a74b0d8b5e9b; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:54:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME033-9a74b0d8b5e9b; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:54:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDNv8-00079d-HJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:52:58 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDNv8-00079U-4B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:52:58 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDNv6-0005dn-3c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:52:58 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.6] (opc1.twatt.home [192.168.1.6]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64E563B50E for ; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:52:55 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4B0D8B16.70603@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:52:54 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01ca6db1$04873810$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> <000b01ca6de1$9fb6b1a0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> In-Reply-To: <000b01ca6de1$9fb6b1a0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Class E pa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) mal hamilton wrote: > Tony The G3YXM designs are class D and not class E. I do not know of > any amateur using class E except myself. Finbar does I do (although I'm lacking a suitable antenna at the moment, so the MF TX is in mothballs) Any more.... J GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (rly-mg04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.110]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG092-a0d4b084626a3; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:57:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG047-a0d4b084626a3; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:57:28 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBw4W-000177-Ix for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:56:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBw4W-00016w-6N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:56:40 +0000 Received: from mailout06.t-online.de ([194.25.134.19]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBw4V-0001hb-Ft for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:56:40 +0000 Received: from fwd02.aul.t-online.de by mailout06.t-online.de with smtp id 1NBw4U-0007ER-02; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:56:38 +0100 Received: from df2py (Sg67RmZCohQ3i9TrKWRfIqfdBEE0XvcGkINptG3iBaM6aLZ6f-QQkbEl0rJlTjIQEP@[80.187.98.210]) by fwd02.t-online.de with esmtp id 1NBw4Q-0jsgwi0; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:56:34 +0100 From: "Wolf Ostwald" To: Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:58:16 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acpq5Pbs03VLL9BOR06jDV3EO3QoPg== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-ID: Sg67RmZCohQ3i9TrKWRfIqfdBEE0XvcGkINptG3iBaM6aLZ6f-QQkbEl0rJlTjIQEP X-TOI-MSGID: c249719c-2666-4682-a760-12e75c8d7f57 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: DI2BJ active Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01CA6AED.5B1310D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01CA6AED.5B1310D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello group ! DI2BJ will be QRV in regular CW on 505.030 for the weekend. Sorry its not WSPR. 73 de wolf df2py ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01CA6AED.5B1310D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello group !

DI2BJ will be QRV in regul= ar CW on 505.030 for the weekend. Sorry its not WSPR.

73 de wolf   df2= py

------=_NextPart_000_0013_01CA6AED.5B1310D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (rly-mf07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.177]) by air-mf05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF054-96f4af7315f95; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:00:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF075-96f4af7315f95; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:00:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7Er6-000104-46 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:59:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7Er5-0000zv-JX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:59:23 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.55]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7Eq8-0002UB-MF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:58:25 +0000 Received: from edmwaa03.telusplanet.net ([75.157.140.241]) by priv-edmwes33.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091108205918.PZVD25474.priv-edmwes33.telusplanet.net@edmwaa03.telusplanet.net> for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:59:18 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.67] (d75-157-140-241.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.140.241]) by edmwaa03.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 087B13562FE0A2DB for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:59:15 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4AF73120.6070007@telus.net> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:59:12 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <027601ca60a2$841cd150$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <020b01ca60a9$4495adc0$0201a8c0@Clemens04> <029701ca60af$4f444d20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <029701ca60af$4f444d20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hey Mal Would you consider firing up a QRSS beacon for a couple of hours before and during your sunrise in the NA waterhole 137778.0Hz +/- 3Hz? DCF39 has been audible for the last couple of nights and it may be our time to get a signal from EU into the west coast of NA. I'd like to see how the path works while open and see whether there is a possibility of QSO in the future. Here's your chance at another first... TU es 73 Scott mal hamilton wrote: > Two points > > Why waste 2.4 kHz when QRS only needs a few Hz with a better S/N ratio. > > You agree that a faint trace is visible. If this faint trace was QRS > mode only a few Hz bandwidth would be necessary to read the > intellegence and the signal/noise would be superior. > G3KEV > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clemens Paul" > To: > Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 7:23 PM > Subject: LF: Re: WSPR > > >> Mal, >> >>> WSPR reports amongst stns indicate reception reports usually minus >>> dB. Most of these >>> stations are usually PLUS >>> dB with me or very close to that figure. >> >> WSPR refers the indicated SNR to a BW of 2,4kHz. >> So if your receiving BW is say 100Hz your actual SNR is better by >> ~14dB than WSPR >> reports. >> >>> A trace of the signal is visible long before a decode takes place, >>> therefore why >>> not use QRS in >> >the first place. >> >> This may be an issue of your RX/soundcard setup. >> I can assure you that with my Perseus SDR RX,set to a RBW of less >> than one Hertz >> for the display,I can decode every WSPR signal which shows even only >> a faint trace on >> the waterfall diagram. >> At least this is my experience so far. >> >> 73 >> Clemens >> DL4RAJ >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: mal hamilton >> To: rsgb >> Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 7:37 PM >> Subject: LF: WSPR >> >> >> WSPR reports amongst stns indicate reception reports usually minus >> dB. Most of these stations >> are usually PLUS dB with me or very close to that figure. >> So what does that prove. I would say it depends on the RX antenna and >> not necessarily >> propagation. A large antenna yields better results than a small loop >> or active whip. >> When I switch from my 1/4 wave inv L for 500 khz to a smaller 40 m >> resonated loop for 500 the >> signals then do go down to a minus db figure. >> So what is all this all ABOUT ? >> There is also the TX pwr to consider. Two transmitters from the same >> location one using QRO >> and the other QRP will be received at different levels at a specified >> RX location. There is a >> lot of misrepresentation and misleading information by WSPR operator >> A trace of the signal is visible long before a decode takes place, >> therefore why not use QRS >> in the first place. >> >> G3KEV >> >> >> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.55/2489 - Release Date: >> 11/08/09 07:37:00 >> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.55/2489 - Release Date: > 11/08/09 07:37:00 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINME023-9cf4b11df171c7; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:40:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME083-9cf4b11df171c7; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:40:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEZgo-0006GL-DD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:39:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEZgn-0006GC-MR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:39:05 +0000 Received: from lnx500.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de ([130.83.156.225]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEZgm-0002cy-0k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:39:05 +0000 Received: from FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.212.129]) by lnx500.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.14.2/8.14.2/HRZ/PMX) with SMTP id nAT2d1Ic020143 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:39:01 +0100 (envelope-from schaefer@hst.tu-darmstadt.de) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de) by FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de with AVK MailGateway; for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:39:02 +0100 Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:39:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AA69@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> In-Reply-To: <42720A798A384ADDA93A8954B4299F9B@White> Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: LF: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz Thread-Index: Acpwc+LF7+3G10vZTs23jFP6cJjPhwAKI+Ag From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= To: X-AVK-Virus-Check: AVB 19.594;28.11.2009 X-PMX-TU: seen v0.99a by 5.5.8.383112, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2009.11.29.23042 X-PMX-SPAMCHECK: outgoing mail X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: AW: LF: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CA709D.1B813451" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA709D.1B813451 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Markus! Now it=B4s half past 3 in the nigeht and i am back ;-) Thanks for your infos! 120=B5V/m, what does this mean for my calculated ER= P? I=B4ve never got such a field strength rprt yet but we could calculate= it if we know the distance. And we do! I tried to reach you per email (the address on your site) cause I have a= question about your hell program. So, perhaps we could do it here or in= a private mail... =20 Let=B4s do a QSO the next time, in CW, if possible. =20 GN, Stefan =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --------- Dipl.-Ing. Stefan Sch=E4fer FG Hochspannungstechnik / High Voltage Laboratories TU Darmstadt Landgraf-Georg-Str. 4 D-64283 Darmstadt, Germany Telefon: +49 6151 16 4495 Fax: +49 6151 16 2329 http://www.hst.tu-darmstadt.de =20 =20 -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org] Im Auftrag von Markus Vester Gesendet: Samstag, 28. November 2009 22:38 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: Re: LF: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz =20 Good evening Stefan, =20 you are producing an excellent signal here in Nuernberg! The fieldstrength= was up to about 120 uV/m, with some variation (probably caused by kite mo= vement). =20 Have fun, and best of luck =20 Markus, DF6NM in JN59NK=20 =20 =20 =20 From: Stefan Sch=E4fer =20 Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 11:36 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz =20 Dear Lowfers,=20 This is my first mail to the reflector and so i want to say hello to all= :-) It=B4s nice to be able to participate now here although my activity= will stay on the band mostly ;-) If there will be no weather problems this evening I will agn be qrv on 137= in CW (abt 136,8) and/or QRSS3.=20 Since abt 3 weeks I am qrv again. Since I live in a city I have no possibi= lities to be on LF, even not in RXing (QRM)... Therefore and cause I like= to be in the nature I am now qrv in /p. I use a kite antenna, 100m up (!)= . This should have a radiation resistance of 0,83 Ohms. My overall resista= nce is abt 30...55 Ohms, depending on the ground a achieve. So you can ima= gine abt the ERP. I have a 1KW class E PA that I use with limited power.= But The ERP easily reaches the 1W ERP limit, as one can imagine.. My RX is still poor but I am working on a receiving loop. Now, I use the= TX ant for receiving that causes some problems ;-) It would be nice to get some QSOs or even RX-RPRTs tonight. Until now I go= t 2 QSOs in each activity ;-) Best regards,=20 Stefan / DK7FC ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA709D.1B813451 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello Ma= rkus!

Now it= =B4s half past= 3 in the nigeht and i am back ;-)

Thanks= for your infos! 120=B5V/m, what does this mean for my calculated ERP? I=B4ve never got suc= h a field strength rprt yet but we could calculate it if we know the distance. And= we do!

I tried= to reach you per email (the address on your site) cause I have a question about your hell program. So, perhaps we could do it here or in a private mail…

 

Let=B4s= do a QSO the next time, in CW, if possible.

 

GN, Stef= an

 

 ------------------------------------------------= -------------------= ---------------
= Dipl.-Ing. Stefan Sch=E4fer

FG Hochspannungstechnik / High Voltage Labor= atories
TU Darmstadt
Landgraf-Georg-Str.= 4
D-64283 Darmstadt, Ge= rmany
Telefon: +49 6151 16= 4495

Fax: +49 6151 16 2329

http://www.hst.tu-darmstadt.de

 <= /p>

-----Urspr=FCngl= iche Nachricht-----
Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org] Im Auftrag von Markus= Vester
Gesendet: Samstag, 28. Nove= mber 2009 22:38
An: rsgb_lf_group@blackshee= p.org
Betreff: Re: LF: DK7FC/p qr= v this evening on 137kHz

 

Good evening Stefa= n,

 

you are producing&= nbsp;an excellent signal here in Nuernberg! The fieldstrength was up to about 120 uV/m,= with some variation (probably caused by kite movement).

 

Have fun, and best= of luck

 

Markus,

DF6NM in JN59NK 

 

 

 

Sent: Saturday, Nov= ember 28, 2009 11:36 AM

Subject: LF: DK7FC/= p qrv this evening on 137kHz

 

Dear Lowfers,
This is my first mail to the reflector and so i want to say hello to all= :-) It=B4s nice to be able to participate now here although my activity will= stay on the band mostly ;-)
If there will be no weather problems this evening I will agn be qrv on 137= in CW (abt 136,8) and/or QRSS3.
Since abt 3 weeks I am qrv again. Since I live in a city I have no possibilities to be on LF, even not in RXing (QRM)... Therefore and cause= I like to be in the nature I am now qrv in /p. I use a kite antenna, 100m up= (!). This should have a radiation resistance of 0,83 Ohms. My overall resistanc= e is abt 30...55 Ohms, depending on the ground a achieve. So you can imagine ab= t the ERP. I have a 1KW class E PA that I use with limited power. But The ERP ea= sily reaches the 1W ERP limit, as one can imagine..
My RX is still poor but I am working on a receiving loop. Now, I use the= TX ant for receiving that causes some problems ;-)
It would be nice to get some QSOs or even RX-RPRTs tonight. Until now I go= t 2 QSOs in each activity ;-)
Best regards,
Stefan / DK7FC

------_=_NextPart_001_01CA709D.1B813451-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc03.mx.aol.com (rly-mc03.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.87]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMC021-d644b0d7db617e; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:56:06 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC034-d644b0d7db617e; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:55:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDN0s-0006jN-29 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:54:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDN0r-0006jE-I6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:54:49 +0000 Received: from smtp816.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.245]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDN0q-0003NN-UH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:54:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 74701 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2009 18:54:43 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=hwDKEwsmlUo4r0d0MC0IoY4oY0pf64OykTvgcFNlw5z5u6zne+QWJuJkzWyO0ebF2ou06JNhXl0qRPg/mATCYXE3iLFZLzforq9m/SGo4+u+/39IbGWg3KWq8Ylvie31PnJsuyUb7gu0KhuhJIcGkudw7zj3dVwZKHv0OW7hjbE= ; Received: from unknown (HELO IBM7FFA209F07C) (c.ashby435@86.169.134.234 with login) by smtp816.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 2009 18:54:42 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: 9STUSnaswBBSd6nO_2gAC20jmYlWRjmg8d5iYd8s.rl181aR6Sw- X-YMail-OSG: .UymD.4VM1lHgfGUKdMNrt1ccQl1Bf4_ZZDUBRJhVv1KUs2QKhe35dOHkyXACDBN.DUVRMReIf6OuId270a_MzoHUfa0qT8d6cW9oVx6J5nrtmPRj7wSRqIZhqxa3YKlwykGOnradriFUTreV_2uLdaoPWEOVvwjTLTuMR07RKrYWm5jkf_sgxbv0xf4T0v4mjhyTP_MLTyCRb86QmCjoRdFHIMAE_rtDcBhPttCewF.B4bkVZwiN0jVdU8mkrSaDEZpG3gbrqU1QKr.kJIVy6.xefQk2H2iFQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "Chris" To: References: <4B0D797B.4050304@online.fr> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:54:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: Re: LF: Who? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Merci beaucoup Jean-Pierre. 73, Chris, G4AYT. ----- Original Message ----- From: ""Jean-Pierre Méré (F1AFJ)"" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 6:37 PM Subject: Re: LF: Who? RA3YO ! Chris a écrit : > Hi All, > Does anybody know who was sending 'Y' last evening just before midnight > UTC on approx. 137.778kHz, please? > Thanks, > Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, JO01MI. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD084-b734afd740f3b; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:58:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD045-b734afd740f3b; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:58:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8xai-0002qq-Gy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:57:36 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8xai-0002qh-3v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:57:36 +0000 Received: from smtp21.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.2]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8xag-0005tA-Cp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:57:36 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2106.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E83A8700009A for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:57:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (17.214.194-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.194.214.17]) by msfrf2106.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 5397A7000095 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:57:26 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091113145726342.5397A7000095@msfrf2106.sfr.fr Message-ID: <000601ca6471$9d3070c0$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: References: <004001ca646a$c6ec0cf0$3ab27cbc@niurhaxf0xcqlj> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:57:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091113-0, 13/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: sp2kds Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-2"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Marcin LF I'll be there tonight Now I'm on transmission 137,705 khz Claude F8boj rechercher ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcin" To: Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 3:08 PM Subject: LF: sp2kds > Dear LF > Station SP2KDS will be today started from 21:00 on 137.700 (qrss3) and > later > 137.778 kHz (qrss60). > In time 20:00-21:00 search stations on 500kHz band. > -- > Vy 73! > Marcin SQ2BXI > (SP2KDS Team) > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb10.mx.aol.com (rly-mb10.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.168]) by air-mb06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB062-d2d4af8baf264; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:59:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB101-d2d4af8baf264; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:59:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7f4A-0005N2-8G for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:58:38 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7f49-0005Mt-Ps for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:58:37 +0000 Received: from mcgi66.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.202]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7f46-0006sJ-FF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:58:37 +0000 Received: from mcgi66.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi66.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6732411557 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:58:28 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [81.195.13.137] by mcgi66.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:58:28 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:58:28 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <001b01ca6086$cd0966b0$0617aac0@jimdesk> <004101ca60ab$ef362e60$0900a8c0@lark> <4AF7224D.4010707@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <009601ca60c5$84c5f4b0$0900a8c0@lark> Message-Id: <700100929.1257814708.48698216.38628@mcgi66.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Losses due to ant in tree? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 * Alan Melia [Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:25:13 -0000]: > Yeah well in your case,John, the nearest tree is on the Mainland May be sending to John an russian oak? It will be great mast after 600 years... > Best Wishes > Alan G3NYK > hi! 73! Roman, RW3ADB > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John P-G" > To: > Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 7:55 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Re: Losses due to ant in tree? > > > > > > > > Alan Melia wrote: > > > May thumbnail approack says put a vertical at least > > > as far away from trees, <...> as it is high. Not aways easy! > > > > > > > > > Depends where you live :-) > > > > http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/DCP_2235.JPG > > > > John > > GM4SLV > > Treeless Shetland > > > -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me05.mx.aol.com (rly-me05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.39]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME012-9b94b03c99a120; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:17:09 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME055-9b94b03c99a120; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:17:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAhZk-0001GW-Fd for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:15:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAhZj-0001GN-Jt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:15:47 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAhZi-0006Tt-UB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:15:47 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 992F47B8066 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:15:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from PC_van_Rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-106.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.106]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E8FD31E702 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:15:33 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:15:36 +0100 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <02ac01ca6832$39e82890$0517aac0@jimdesk> References: <017801ca66fb$0bf91c60$0517aac0@jimdesk> <20091118085815.7282031E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <02ac01ca6832$39e82890$0517aac0@jimdesk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091118101533.6E8FD31E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim, I lowered my antenna last night as gales up to 100km/h are predicted. Regarding CW: let me know when you are ready and I will look out for you. I worked G's with only few mW ERP in the past. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T At 10:33 18/11/2009, you wrote: >Hi Rik > >That's exactly what mine are. I think it's a mixture of stretching the Pa >on the IC735 so its at the edge of its envelope (the radio equivalent of a >stick shaker or stall horn on a plane!) and also RF leakage and mains >leakage into the soundcard system on the Dell lappy. It's only apparent on >Rx and Tx of strong/local signals where the fundamental is so high (>0db) >that the first side lobes at -30dB are still within WSPR capture range. > >It's mainly an issue with reports from M0FMT (his fault for living so close >to me...hi hi ) and from M0BMU (his fault for having such a good 500 set up >and helping me to get on the band in the first case! Just joking Jim) > >I can cure it by winding back the power a chunk but then I am limiting >myself Dx wise. > >Last night I received my first transatlantic stations W1xxx and AA1A. I >think my antenna mods and good condx really helped. > >My next challenge is to get >1000km and then T/A as well as doing some more >CW QSO's. I will try and get a QSO with Mal perhaps > >Actually my first challenge is to keep my antennas up in the 30kt wind that >is blowing around here today!! > > >With best regards > > >Jim G7NKS > > >Dr. James Cowburn >E james.cowburn@virgin.net > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe >Sent: 18 November 2009 08:58 >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >Subject: Re: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands > >Hello Jim, LF group, > >I have noticed "double receptions" of my WSPR signal from a number of >stations. When it occurred the ghost signal was always 100Hz higher >and was 33-36dB weaker. >As the frequency shift and signal strength difference was the same at >the different RX stations I conclude that the cause was with me. >I think that it is just some AM modulation in the PA caused by the >100Hz ripple of the PSU. > >73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > >At 02:13 18/11/2009, you wrote: > >Dear Jim LF Group, > > > >Looking at the sidebands on the G7NKS WSPR signals, mains hum or other >noise > >by itself is not a sufficient explanation of what is seen. Simply adding > >50Hz, 150Hz, etc. noise into the PC audio channel, then feeding the result > >into an SSB TX would give unwanted CW at frequencies offset from the SSB > >carrier frequency by +/-50Hz, 150Hz and so on, i.e. with the carrier "dial > >frequency" at 502.4kHz, unmodulated carriers would appear at 502.45kHz, > >502.55kHz and so on, in addition to the WSPR signal at around 503.9kHz. > >However, these would probably largely be removed by the SSB filter in the > >rig. Instead, we see unwanted sidebands offset from the wanted WSPR signal > >frequency by +/- 50Hz, 150Hz, with identical modulation to the wanted > >signal. This requires some sort of non-linear process to cause the > >intermodulation between the presumed mains noise and the WSPR signal > >somewhere in the TX chain. > > > >One possibility is that intermodulation occurs in the PA. Jim's description > >suggests that he is persuading the HF PA in the IC735 to produce output at > >500k. At this frequency, the PA linearity may well be poor due to the > >impedance matching, coupling, decoupling and feedback components in the PA > >being wrong for the frequency, and high flux densities occuring in ferrite > >components due to the low operating frequency. But this wouldn't explain >why > >Jim also gets multiple received signals from a strong station with a clean > >signal, which implies some identical noise source and distortion in the > >receive path. It would also mean the mains noise getting through the > >filtering in the rig somehow. > > > >A possibility that would explain the unwanted sidebands appearing on both >TX > >and RX signals is if one of the oscillators in the system has mains noise > >sidebands. The sound card clock seems unlikely, since this is just a simple > >crystal oscillator. I see the IC735 has some sort of multi-loop PLL > >synthesiser, which would certainly be prone to this type of spurious >signal, > >since any kind of mains noise getting in would modulate the VCO >frequencies, > >and would probably be the same on transmit and receive. This could be > >checked by receiving a clean carrier somewhere around 500kHz, and examining > >the audio output using Spec Lab or Argo or similar to see if 50Hz and 150Hz > >sidebands are present on the received audio tone. > > > >Cheers, Jim Moritz > >73 de M0BMU > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "James Cowburn" > >To: > >Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:26 PM > >Subject: LF: rule #2 - assumption is the brother of all foul ups > > > > > > > LF > > > > > > > > > > > > Sidebands are back! I think its caused by my TX getting hot and >bothered > > > by > > > struggling at 500. From cold it txs 50 watts but this soon drops back >to > > > around 35, and the sidebands appear. My sigs are better so having the > > > txfr > > > outside the shack and at the antenna is a vast improvement, but I now >need > > > to work on the cooling. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df09.mx.aol.com (rly-df09.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.22]) by air-df04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF043-5744afd1f741ce; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:57:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF091-5744afd1f741ce; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:57:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8rwq-0001PB-O9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:56:04 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8rwq-0001P2-3n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:56:04 +0000 Received: from relay2-v.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.76]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8rwo-0002dm-7H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:56:04 +0000 Received: from HATSHEPSOUT (ALagny-151-1-48-194.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.114.254.194]) by relay2-v.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D736135D0 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:55:56 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:55:55 +0100 From: Michel F5WK X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1923941843.20091113095555@mterrier.net> To: "w1tag@charter.net" In-Reply-To: <20091112162547.07WZ7.8495963.root@mp12> References: <20091112162547.07WZ7.8495963.root@mp12> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WD2XES WOLF 137.441 Thurs Nite Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) > WD2XES will be running WOLF(10) on 137.441 kHz tonight from 0H UTC. Repo= rts are welcome. Hi John, Here is my report. Virtual Audio Cable (VAC) was used for the first time= to link the SpectrumLab based SDR and WOLFGUI. It appeared to run quite accurately. 73 Michel / f5wk 2009-11-13 00:29:19 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 t: 24 t: 48 t: 96 t: 192 t: 288 t: 384 f: 0.020 pm:366.2 jm:349 q: -6.2 -8.8 WD2XES FRI 4ATC ? t: 480 f: 0.020 pm:502.7 jm:349 q: -4.9 -4.6 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 576 f: 0.020 pm:619.8 jm:349 q: -3.8 -3.4 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 672 f: 0.020 pm:765.5 jm:349 q: -2.8 -2.6 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 768 f: 0.020 pm:870.0 jm:349 q: -2.2 -2.4 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 864 f: 0.020 pm:935.0 jm:349 q: -1.7 -2.1 WD2XES FRI 13TH - 2009-11-13 00:43:48 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 2009-11-13 00:58:16 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 t: 24=20 t: 48=20 t: 96=20 t: 192=20 t: 288=20 t: 384=20 t: 480=20 t: 576 f: 0.020 pm:599.6 jm:262 q: -3.5 -5.1 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 672 f: 0.020 pm:778.4 jm:262 q: -2.7 -3.6 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 768 f: 0.020 pm:962.2 jm:262 q: -1.7 -3.0 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 864 f: 0.020 pm: 1032 jm:262 q: -1.3 -2.3 WD2XES FRI 13TH - 2009-11-13 01:12:44 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 2009-11-13 01:27:13 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 2009-11-13 01:41:41 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 t: 24 t: 48 t: 96 t: 192 t: 288 t: 384 t: 480 f: 0.010 pm:298.4 jm:131 q: -5.0 -7.5 P./H4C FRI 13TM ? t: 576 f: 0.010 pm:379.1 jm:131 q: -3.7 -5.0 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 672 f: 0.010 pm:421.5 jm:131 q: -3.4 -4.4 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 768 f: 0.010 pm:455.7 jm:131 q: -3.3 -4.4 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 864 f: 0.010 pm:466.2 jm:131 q: -3.4 -4.5 WD2XES FRI 13TH - 2009-11-13 01:56:09 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 2009-11-13 02:10:38 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 2009-11-13 02:25:07 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 2009-11-13 02:39:35 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 2009-11-13 02:54:04 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 t: 24 t: 48 t: 96 t: 192 t: 288 t: 384 t: 480 t: 576 t: 672 f: 0.010 pm:278.5 jm:865 q: -4.3 -5.6 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 768 f: 0.010 pm:374.4 jm:865 q: -3.8 -5.5 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 864 f: 0.010 pm:377.3 jm:865 q: -3.6 -7.5 GWNXYIH4Z* P.QE ? 2009-11-13 03:08:33 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 2009-11-13 03:23:01 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 2009-11-13 03:37:29 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 t: 24 t: 48 t: 96 t: 192 t: 288 t: 384 t: 480 t: 576 t: 672 t: 768 t: 864 f: 0.010 pm:298.2 jm:730 q: -4.7 -5.8 WD2XES FRI 13TH - 2009-11-13 03:51:58 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 2009-11-13 04:06:26 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 t: 24 t: 48 t: 96 t: 192 t: 288 f: 0.010 pm:167.2 jm:639 q: -5.5 -4.9 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 384 f: 0.010 pm:225.3 jm:639 q: -4.2 -4.2 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 480 f: 0.010 pm:236.6 jm:639 q: -4.1 -3.7 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 576 f: 0.010 pm:265.9 jm:639 q: -4.0 -3.2 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 672 f: 0.010 pm:325.0 jm:639 q: -3.7 -3.1 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 768 f: 0.010 pm:351.1 jm:639 q: -3.4 -3.2 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 864 f: 0.010 pm:417.5 jm:639 q: -2.9 -2.7 WD2XES FRI 13TH - 2009-11-13 04:20:55 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 2009-11-13 04:35:24 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 2009-11-13 04:49:52 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 2009-11-13 05:04:21 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 t: 24 t: 48 t: 96 t: 192 t: 288 t: 384 t: 480 t: 576 t: 672 f: 0.010 pm:217.7 jm:455 q: -4.4 -5.2 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 768 f: 0.010 pm:351.0 jm:455 q: -3.0 -3.7 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 864 f: 0.010 pm:438.5 jm:455 q: -1.9 -3.4 WD2XES FRI 13TH - 2009-11-13 05:18:49 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 2009-11-13 05:33:18 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 2009-11-13 05:47:47 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 t: 24 t: 48 t: 96 t: 192 t: 288 f: 0.010 pm:349.5 jm:312 q: -5.3 -6.4 WD2XDGLORHA8WE5 ? t: 384 f: 0.010 pm:421.7 jm:312 q: -4.6 -5.7 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 480 f: 0.010 pm:535.8 jm:312 q: -3.1 -4.7 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 576 f: 0.010 pm:580.9 jm:312 q: -2.8 -3.7 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 672 f: 0.010 pm:596.9 jm:312 q: -2.7 -3.2 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 768 f: 0.010 pm:706.0 jm:312 q: -1.8 -3.0 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 864 f: 0.010 pm:752.6 jm:312 q: -1.3 -2.4 WD2XES FRI 13TH - 2009-11-13 06:02:15 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 t: 24 t: 48 t: 96 t: 192 t: 288 t: 384 t: 480 f: 0.010 pm:374.4 jm:269 q: -3.9 -5.2 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 576 f: 0.010 pm:456.0 jm:269 q: -2.7 -4.5 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 672 f: 0.010 pm:534.5 jm:269 q: -2.1 -3.5 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 768 f: 0.010 pm:637.6 jm:269 q: -1.3 -2.5 WD2XES FRI 13TH - t: 864 f: 0.010 pm:758.0 jm:269 q: -0.4 -2.1 WD2XES FRI 13TH - 2009-11-13 06:16:44 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 2009-11-13 06:31:12 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 2009-11-13 06:45:41 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 2009-11-13 07:00:09 >WOLF10 -r 11025 -f 700 -t 1 -d 8 -w 0.0000 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df08.mx.aol.com (rly-df08.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.21]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF062-56e4b06b758160; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:36:10 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF085-56e4b06b758160; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:35:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBVVs-0006v8-CV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:35:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBVVr-0006uz-W9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:35:07 +0000 Received: from smtp826.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.13.123]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBVVr-0000CG-5p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:35:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 89970 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2009 15:35:01 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:Importance:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To; b=LLi1VrhRbHiwvwCCRYDEYxKBtb1HZoXPeO7aukpsIbbV6XO7Wg5SzBEwXOpCN03l/bCFvJ6P/S3N2jxZjNoN7UOYQWm99nX/7TptFDorjlcC3I5/rvL+Gr+ugaqX3mfdB4pysbNjlhVnhyt++1TiDNxPyvfYD0qKHntkAg1eDAM= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@86.134.202.32 with login) by smtp826.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Nov 2009 15:35:01 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: JSvqNSWswBBXc9Mk_Vd71RtGz2bViJtuZMADdmi78eLqBj_R7.fL X-YMail-OSG: czDEShEVM1kyQp8RUWnNALIxWfMu.FAXZUG.erEf.dZYSew_Sc.UcqdXnar3ToM1VDJU0_ChGiazYH1rz3GiUsyBNK8xZqS8NbSImxww6pLmptZw_fCT4MoN.U7PEwvZ.nLbmRam_5T5_98a4AMUeaHxI7BqeaITl6bAHidfsLqea4mYTgWnVhch364q2Roj4.w16ebyDWp.cGn_2tPAQ4c9STLKg.MWCAEymSj12YINvYHvaucPz8bHZd_7eiSWprQg4A0_mjTH987N_b9Uv54UQ6Y16PRxAlbskvUp4v74xDqtZvwpbrvBW0hIc6PsumnvDbYwlm0eyIYhNuno X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:35:21 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: <20091120150008.8098FF3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: something completely different Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 That's interesting. It's quite a narrow band....possibilites for the usual narrow-band modes... CW/PSK/WSPR/QRSS/DFCW? Babelfish translation below:- "The Council of the IBPT, pursuant to article 13 of the law of June 13, 2005 relating to the electronic communications, decides to authorize the holders of a radio ham licence(HAREC) to use frequency 69.950 MHz on secondary basis, with a power of 10 W EIRP and a maximum bandwidth of 10 Khz. The radio hams wishing to make experiments on this frequency are required to make the statement preliminary to the Institute either by mail or with the address email ram-fr@ibpt.be. This decision between in force at the date of its publication." 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe Sent: 20 November 2009 15:00 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: something completely different Dear all, completely off topic but maybe of some interest: With immediate start all Belgian radioamateurs holder of a "full licence" have access to 69.950MHz (+/- 5kHz) with 10W EIRP on NIB. BIPT (our Ofcom / FCC) has to be informed prior to the first activity. See http://www.bipt.be/ShowDoc.aspx?objectID=3160&lang=nl (for those who can read Dutch or French) 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB013-ab34af187b34; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:55:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB031-ab34af187b34; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:55:01 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N5gJ7-00066Z-QJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:53:53 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N5gJ7-00066Q-Bp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:53:53 +0000 Received: from gv-out-0910.google.com ([216.239.58.187]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N5gJ4-0004TX-LN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:53:53 +0000 Received: by gv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c6so942103gvd.38 for ; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 05:53:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=MaKtPO1OvyzsuXaHMPXGqYP+F/rKCkR/yACPlLnDDl4=; b=dQFBsZ6QSQ5rikBk+aTiZBpDziEQf7yAYqTbLKkkbEXuXx7rGF9caR63fbl4BjZb8r iY6Cnbj2gYh9qwcwLyQ9PEwbXI/xlAs2UxYp4nmIyRdleINr+JMoQtSoPeTIwy4c2r7A KwhsJFyKo5m6996z5l30llHtccYSGCxL/6FsM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=x3XBYhXvPsb1KuxcIGErSXWaAWMPtdFTroyahonsKZaK4cleyEUUZnmXbDXSBk4oR2 PkssAagX4WUeEwqg2AqssWrBxzl2cyXsZAWXzJT+C+wKC1tRrzcFrHTMy94xkRWhhx7z 3EFmzIbBVqQ+fvoMBrrTi7PMrTdQcELaWq4/A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.144.97 with SMTP id n33mr162203hba.183.1257342828797; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 05:53:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:53:48 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, ukmicrowaves@yahoogroups.com DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: "Poisson, Shannon, and the Radio Amateur" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f27b56abdf4c04778bf00a X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d287.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001485f27b56abdf4c04778bf00a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm trying to get hold of a copy of this paper from 50 years ago. Does anyone have a scanned in version? The only web reference I managed to find pointed to a site ( http://tinyurl.com/d5bdo ) that no longer works. Costas J.P.; "Poisson, Shannon, and the Radio Amateur" Proc. IRE, vol 47, pp. 2058-2068, Dec 1959. Tnx in advance... Andy www.g4jnt.com this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny state --001485f27b56abdf4c04778bf00a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm trying to get hold of a copy of this paper from 50 years ago.= =A0
Does anyone have a scanned in version?
The only web reference I managed to find pointed to a site
( http://tinyurl.com/d5bdo= =A0)=A0 that=A0no longer works.
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Costas J.P.;
"Poisson, Shannon, and the Radio Amateur"
Proc. IRE,=A0=A0 vol 47, pp. 2058-2068, Dec 1959.
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Tnx in advance...
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Andy
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this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny st= ate
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--001485f27b56abdf4c04778bf00a-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC041-b384aee108e212; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:50:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC084-b384aee108e212; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:49:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N4jEE-0002ng-C2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:48:54 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N4jED-0002nX-Qc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:48:53 +0000 Received: from mout1.freenet.de ([195.4.92.91]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N4jEB-0001fZ-TJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:48:53 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.22] (helo=12.mx.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #92) id 1N4jEA-0002CQ-VP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 23:48:50 +0100 Received: from w21d3.w.pppool.de ([89.58.33.211]:4095 helo=2a2d7ed321c6425) by 12.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #94) id 1N4jEA-000063-DK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 23:48:50 +0100 From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" To: References: <276313556.1257112269.46863176.15766@mcgi72.rambler.ru> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 23:48:49 +0100 Message-ID: <70F65CEE64DC461BB6E4E47F11B772C9@2a2d7ed321c6425> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <276313556.1257112269.46863176.15766@mcgi72.rambler.ru> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcpbPejHekqtz6CUQkWtkB2SPSiM8wABsw7Q X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: MF_Report SM6BGP Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0046_01CA5B4D.DC4D66F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01CA5B4D.DC4D66F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Gunnar, LF! Please find attached a screenshot of your QRSS3-signal in JN59LN; vy 73 de Gerhard // DK6NI ====== ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01CA5B4D.DC4D66F0 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="SM6BGP.jpg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="SM6BGP.jpg" /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQEAYABgAAD/2wBDAA0JCgsKCA0LCgsODg0PEyAVExISEyccHhcgLikx MC4pLSwzOko+MzZGNywtQFdBRkxOUlNSMj5aYVpQYEpRUk//2wBDAQ4ODhMREyYVFSZPNS01 T09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT0//wAAR CAAuAWEDASIAAhEBAxEB/8QAHwAAAQUBAQEBAQEAAAAAAAAAAAECAwQFBgcICQoL/8QAtRAA AgEDAwIEAwUFBAQAAAF9AQIDAAQRBRIhMUEGE1FhByJxFDKBkaEII0KxwRVS0fAkM2JyggkK FhcYGRolJicoKSo0NTY3ODk6Q0RFRkdISUpTVFVWV1hZWmNkZWZnaGlqc3R1dnd4eXqDhIWG h4iJipKTlJWWl5iZmqKjpKWmp6ipqrKztLW2t7i5usLDxMXGx8jJytLT1NXW19jZ2uHi4+Tl 5ufo6erx8vP09fb3+Pn6/8QAHwEAAwEBAQEBAQEBAQAAAAAAAAECAwQFBgcICQoL/8QAtREA AgECBAQDBAcFBAQAAQJ3AAECAxEEBSExBhJBUQdhcRMiMoEIFEKRobHBCSMzUvAVYnLRChYk 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4.14) id 1NA5tY-00073t-Tz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:01:45 +0000 Received: from mailout1.go2.pl ([193.17.41.11]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA5tT-00014Y-6S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:01:41 +0000 Received: from mailout1.go2.pl (unknown [10.0.0.103]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C3015D524C for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:01:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from unknown (unknown [10.0.0.142]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:01:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from 58-178-124-188.rev.pro-internet.pl [188.124.178.58] by poczta.o2.pl with ESMTP id SrhnGK; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:01:38 +0100 Message-ID: <002801ca66e6$d72a5f30$3ab27cbc@niurhaxf0xcqlj> From: "Marcin" To: References: <1A3407D90B10110D0521E@kabelmail.de> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:01:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-O2-Trust: 2, 63 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF:SP2KDS Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Uwe, LF Very thank for raport. -- Vy 73! Marcin SQ2BXI Hi Marcin, hi Roman, strong signs in JO43SV. pse see attechment. regards Uwe/dj8wx -------- Kabel E-Mail Reply --------------- From: rw3adb@rambler.ru To : rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: 15.11.2009 23:22:16 Hi Marcin, LF! Poor trace 137.706.0 into mode-10 into my location today http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/16nov2009_SP2KDS/135.58W_10_00035.jpg 73! -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md08.mx.aol.com (rly-md08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.146]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMD103-91e4b110a6516e; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 06:33:10 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD086-91e4b110a6516e; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 06:32:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NELWw-0003zX-Hy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:31:58 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NELWv-0003zO-Mo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:31:57 +0000 Received: from qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.64]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NELWt-0006iQ-Ch for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:31:57 +0000 Received: from OMTA17.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.89]) by QMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id AbW21d0021vXlb857bXppZ; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:31:49 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([76.23.233.102]) by OMTA17.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id AbhA1d00B2DDHkk3dbhAd9; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:41:10 +0000 Message-ID: <001401ca701e$5f8d3560$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AA67@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 06:31:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Re: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Stefan Welcome to the reflector! What will be your hours of operation? Will be happy to have a look from this side of the pond. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Schäfer" To: Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 5:36 AM Subject: LF: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz Dear Lowfers, This is my first mail to the reflector and so i want to say hello to all :-) It´s nice to be able to participate now here although my activity will stay on the band mostly ;-) If there will be no weather problems this evening I will agn be qrv on 137 in CW (abt 136,8) and/or QRSS3. Since abt 3 weeks I am qrv again. Since I live in a city I have no possibilities to be on LF, even not in RXing (QRM)... Therefore and cause I like to be in the nature I am now qrv in /p. I use a kite antenna, 100m up (!). This should have a radiation resistance of 0,83 Ohms. My overall resistance is abt 30...55 Ohms, depending on the ground a achieve. So you can imagine abt the ERP. I have a 1KW class E PA that I use with limited power. But The ERP easily reaches the 1W ERP limit, as one can imagine.. My RX is still poor but I am working on a receiving loop. Now, I use the TX ant for receiving that causes some problems ;-) It would be nice to get some QSOs or even RX-RPRTs tonight. Until now I got 2 QSOs in each activity ;-) Best regards, Stefan / DK7FC From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de05.mx.aol.com (rly-de05.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.141]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE023-4d44af67df423a; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:15:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE051-4d44af67df423a; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:14:45 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N72uA-0004cG-25 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:13:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N72u9-0004c7-Fu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:13:45 +0000 Received: from outbound03.telus.net ([199.185.220.222]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N72t9-00073i-JK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:12:44 +0000 Received: from edtnaa02.telusplanet.net ([75.157.140.241]) by priv-edtnes29.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091108081339.VAPJ20472.priv-edtnes29.telusplanet.net@edtnaa02.telusplanet.net> for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 01:13:39 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.67] (d75-157-140-241.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.140.241]) by edtnaa02.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id D0A6A2F02B8F894C for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 01:13:39 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4AF67DB3.1020204@telus.net> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:13:39 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: DCF39 strong on west coast. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi All DCF39 has been audible here in VE7 land the last couple of nights, first time ever to hear it for me. Anyone up to putting on a beacon from EU in the NA waterhole for EU sunrise tomorrow? Grabber: http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/ 73 Scott VE7TIL CN89dk From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md05.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMD053-8f34b0da6ab2de; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:50:43 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD033-8f34b0da6ab2de; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:50:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDPjv-00006E-1K for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:49:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDPju-000065-Ca for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:49:30 +0000 Received: from smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com ([195.200.78.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDPjt-0004Il-Q9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:49:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 30833 invoked by uid 507); 25 Nov 2009 22:49:04 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO JR) (john.rabson@numeo.fr@217.67.155.178) by smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 2009 22:49:04 +0100 Message-ID: <200911252249180564.01447660@smtp2.numeo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:49:18 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: TEST OH1?? on about 137680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 At 2140z. John Rabson F5VLF 58800 Cervon France JN17vg From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME101-99d4b0afd2519c; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:22:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME021-99d4b0afd2519c; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:22:47 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCgLg-0002O8-Mg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:21:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCgLg-0002Nz-6f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:21:28 +0000 Received: from smtp815.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.244]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCgLf-0005R4-50 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:21:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 32369 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2009 21:21:21 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:Importance:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To; b=SqXesu/Svyl20L8A+AdQ8enDrXEvjLihwK1VHNEGpe7YurAhaNrK6pi7nqmKN0Q/rsJsOFWVvsGxCwJnEOl1CxSce0l3fPAGCzIcps+fGH2diLDM6QDF0AwwTScrDGXrR1O94TvpYR2scGelOsPZJYmQzv/a0kPemBuiFMBesD0= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@86.132.156.241 with login) by smtp815.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Nov 2009 21:21:21 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: JSvqNSWswBBXc9Mk_Vd71RtGz2bViJtuZMADdmi78eLqBj_R7.fL X-YMail-OSG: C6ziRnIVM1lCfhzHcRbbCj1VXrtUiOu50Qle691fbThvdcp8B3RVE2BraR1.DVX.6CotMjZBKJ3psOB5dDb5aP_e47KYj4f.9G0c0dpDWYW8WPJgH_DoB3hkrW11bXnS0v3EuOj4aoJAoHi_JfRqlexMasEKAT5IeLKoOboKHugbT6dlGalVQfh_iXvvK3zkDTXQy3TF14V3wb4uzlmBfNwsYscA6DhcKNDSWRK.VEjDZz8NSU0_GvUw2VsQ95gK3TX57SVnhh.EA7H0KhaxItxoELVV6CNMqdKZRCHRNmrSa05wVNOz28vtCcLJ3ZfXbxz2f6c3yMeSGtk_wB8VjyPc3uUrmQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:21:37 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: <20091123085404.D174231E704@smtps01.kuleuven.be> X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: SAIT "MT 430 B" 500kHz transmitter Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Rik, there is a picture of one installed in the radio room of the "AEGIS ATHENIC" here:- http://iancoombe.tripod.com/id21.html (Scroll down until you get to it...looks nice but BIG) and a short description (in French) here:- http://roc.forumactif.com/forum-1-f1/console-sait-type-f-5-a-t19.htm " Remarques : Les emetteurs < MT 430B > et < ET 430B > etait identiques sauf une prise de sortie d'antenne a l'arriere modifie et que l'emetteur de secours etait alimente directement par les batteries de la station radio. Les emetteurs fonctionnait sur les frequences suivantes : 410, 425, 454, 468, 480, 500 et 512 KHz en radiotelegraphie uniquement. Les emetteurs avait un amplificateur de sortie entierement transistorises et donc pouvait emettre directement a la difference des emetteurs a lampes qui requiere un temps de chauffage. Les emetteurs < MT 430 A > et < ET 430 A > avaient une puissance de sortie de 400 Watts." I couldn't find much else! 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe Sent: 23 November 2009 08:54 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: SAIT "MT 430 B" 500kHz transmitter Dear all, I have been offered a SAIT "MT 430 B" 500kHz marine transmitter. Google revealed little, just that it is a "main ship transmitter". Any information (modes, output power etc...) or experience reports with this rig is welcome. 73, Rik ON7YD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (rly-mg07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.113]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMG101-a254b13cc2b1d; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:44:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG077-a254b13cc2b1d; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:44:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NF6X5-00070K-Ih for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:43:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NF6X5-00070B-3y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:43:15 +0000 Received: from mx30.mail.ru ([94.100.176.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NF6X2-0001wa-HR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:43:15 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=51250 helo=EFREMOV) by mx30.mail.ru with asmtp id 1NF6Wv-000FYf-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:43:06 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <001c01ca71c3$04f2c1a0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: References: <3FCC9C19DE674B15A385181E7EFC37C1@Black> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:41:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Grabber improvements Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Thanks, Markus! One question.. It is possible to increase quality *.jpg? The difference with an old format *.png is too appreciable. 73 Andrey Dear LF Group, my LF colour-DF grabber has recently become five years old, and I felt it could do with a little refurbishment. It now updates more frequently, the fullband window scrolls slightly faster and shows a wider QRSS strip. I hope you may find this useful. The URL is still the same http://freenet-homepage.de/df6nm/Grabber.htm , and there is a mirror at http://www.alice-dsl.net/df6nm/grabber/Grabber.htm . 73 de Markus, DF6NM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc07.mx.aol.com (rly-mc07.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.91]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC024-d834b0aaa34b; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:29:17 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC073-d834b0aaa34b; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:28:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCapi-00019u-P0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:28:06 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCapi-00019j-5T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:28:06 +0000 Received: from cpsmtpm-eml103.kpnxchange.com ([195.121.3.7]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCapg-00037R-Mo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:28:06 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 ([81.204.139.159]) by CPSMTPM-EML103.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.0.6001.18000); Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:27:59 +0100 Message-ID: <28BD3D12FF99494FBD0FD85FE5EBE442@ns94d01ae4d850> From: "henny van elst" To: "blacksheep" Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:27:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Nov 2009 15:27:59.0153 (UTC) FILETIME=[89AE4210:01CA6C51] X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: : XES 23-11.jpg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01CA6C59.E17809B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01CA6C59.E17809B0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_003C_01CA6C59.E17809B0" ------=_NextPart_001_003C_01CA6C59.E17809B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello LF capture XES Henny pa3cpm best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden ver= zonden: XES 23-11.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virus= sen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe.= Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt wete= n hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. ------=_NextPart_001_003C_01CA6C59.E17809B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Some one on 137.7 qrs3 good audible sig but just got the end V = K pse listen on 137.0 for cw g3kev de mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01CA69F6.D20402F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_001C_01CA69F6.D20402F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME072-9bf4b0156a71fa; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:42:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME063-9bf4b0156a71fa; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:42:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA1oH-0005dY-8G for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:40:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA1oG-0005dP-Rn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:40:00 +0000 Received: from mail-yx0-f203.google.com ([209.85.210.203]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA1oG-0000Mi-0b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:40:00 +0000 Received: by yxe41 with SMTP id 41so12801902yxe.30 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:39:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=mM9u+1zNXgplcftQCn6g9Jv8OOpvbm/0u1Yeh3dFpz4=; b=ZVKw5aoD3dt41/GMWA9u+qVGqEzI7EzK0CdpxfSY5stbe/7ZxNd3FooCegwdjUi8AZ odcjaZS0gggWSU1C7/4UQKLXK5gcAiXIihiqdB67xADlx8HaR3XXThzrhI2DsoQ3su7K qfjIkMaSKvwMkWBmW3W9TyjC19oG87KzQl8hk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fAZrXJIzfZ83giG72zmJPC25NrjZqcH0Fz9YdTYq5u0e5OJ72qcuHHFiA39blvUmg9 j+3+bm3Tbmmi30hQTO9lB12CUNWqEdsrbbqFbGs5SidUuO3Zw5oHO36tHRyOvYRWsyYe /sHUx0+DbIIRwYcKNfa4nU1B9AJXMvQ9LwMGU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.127.6 with SMTP id z6mr7259516ybc.145.1258378787694; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:39:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <763106576.1258362656.45967800.29836@mcgi65.rambler.ru> References: <1043378010.1258326083.160784844.95853@mcgi39.rambler.ru> <57a24ca70911151614q7185951ud60c7e913ad36978@mail.gmail.com> <763106576.1258362656.45967800.29836@mcgi65.rambler.ru> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:39:47 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70911160539m21865aa5kad342cea9f09995c@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Who is it? 507.300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m244.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Roman, WE2XGR/6 is on 507.300 kHz, when he is beaconing he transmits approximately 8 wpm cw (no QRSS). --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 4:10 AM, Roman RW3ADB wrote: > Hi Warren! > TNX for info! > I tried to copy a trace up to mode-30, but nothing into my location. > Will be trying to do agn! > Do know what is his real freq? > > * Warren Ziegler [Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:14:28 -0500]: >> >> Roman, >> >> =A0 That is Bob WE2XGR/6 (W2ZM) running 200W ERP frrom Rochester,NY >> >> >> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Roman RW3ADB > > wrote: >> >> > >> > Hi LF! >> > What is a signal we can see around 507.300 kHz onto G4WGT grabber > > now? >> >> > Who is it? >> > Too many times I can see a CW-like trace on that freq every night. >> > Between 507.3 and 507.4 are visible now. >> > >> > -- >> > Roman RW3ADB. >> > >> > >> > > > > > -- > Roman RW3ADB. > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db04.mx.aol.com (rly-db04.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.79]) by air-db02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB021-abc4b00684837e; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:45:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB042-abc4b00684837e; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:44:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9lx7-0001bz-A6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:44:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9lx6-0001bq-UU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:44:04 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9lx6-000369-9H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:44:04 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.6] (opc1.twatt.home [192.168.1.6]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 265273B512 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:44:03 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4B006812.7010101@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:44:02 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1043CB7D895D4161B1C87CDD140332A2@AGB> <0CADF4DD71FD43A2A8384463754F6344@AGB> <4B005411.4010506@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <1C14999758D149228277CBBC2446F1D7@AGB> In-Reply-To: <1C14999758D149228277CBBC2446F1D7@AGB> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Running mW wspr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) G 10dB might be a bit too much, your previous decodes were around -25/-28dB here. Perhaps at some peaks of QSB, later in the night we might still strike lucky. Am considering knocking up a transverter for 500kHz and replacing the MF ATU out at the feedpoint (currently have an HF auto-atu there) to allow me to radiate some signals on 500 again. Cheers, John Graham wrote: > 2334 45 mW drive to the antenna .. slight problem zeroing the > meter as there is 60 uW of energy coming back in from the atu .... > so thats about -10 dB down on the previous level > > G .. > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "John P-G" > Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 7:18 PM > To: > Subject: Re: LF: Running mW wspr > >> >> >> >> Graham wrote: >> >>> >>> Crazy system ..... spot just in from John ! >> >> >> I thought your mW signal was meant to be a challenge, but of course >> Roger's already discovered that WSPR will decode signals that you >> can't hear, and are often so weak on a waterfall that QRSS3 would be a >> struggle (despite what someone here repeatedly fails to comprehend) >> >> Can you go any lower? >> >> John >> GM4SLV >> >> > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD054-90d4b06bc0536f; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:56:10 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD065-90d4b06bc0536f; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:55:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBVlp-00078N-I7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:51:37 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBVln-00078E-LH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:51:36 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBVlh-0002Dj-SD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:51:32 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEF3551C011 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:51:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from PC_van_Rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-106.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.106]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD335F3862 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:51:19 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:51:24 +0100 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: References: <20091120150008.8098FF3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091120155119.AD335F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: something completely different Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dave, in fact it is one frequency that can be used, with max. 10kHz bandwidth, thus 69.950 +/- 0.005 MHz. But if you put an USB TX on 69.950 and "key" it with a 2kHz tone you have CW on 69.952 ... etc. 73, Rik At 16:35 20/11/2009, you wrote: >That's interesting. > >It's quite a narrow band....possibilites for the usual narrow-band modes... >CW/PSK/WSPR/QRSS/DFCW? > >Babelfish translation below:- > > >"The Council of the IBPT, pursuant to article 13 of the law of June 13, 2005 >relating to the electronic communications, decides to authorize the holders >of a radio ham licence(HAREC) to use frequency 69.950 MHz on secondary >basis, with a power of 10 W EIRP and a maximum bandwidth of 10 Khz. The >radio hams wishing to make experiments on this frequency are required to >make the statement preliminary to the Institute either by mail or with the >address email ram-fr@ibpt.be. This decision between in force at the date of >its publication." > >73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe >Sent: 20 November 2009 15:00 >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >Subject: LF: something completely different > > >Dear all, > >completely off topic but maybe of some interest: >With immediate start all Belgian radioamateurs holder of a "full >licence" have access to 69.950MHz (+/- 5kHz) with 10W EIRP on NIB. >BIPT (our Ofcom / FCC) has to be informed prior to the first activity. >See http://www.bipt.be/ShowDoc.aspx?objectID=3160&lang=nl (for those >who can read Dutch or French) > >73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD091-9034b007e7628a; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:19:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD053-9034b007e7628a; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:19:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9nQh-0002cH-Ft for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:18:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9nQh-0002c8-5C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:18:43 +0000 Received: from mcgi76.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.25]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9nQg-0003aR-57 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:18:43 +0000 Received: from mcgi76.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi76.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A5C01702C for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:18:36 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [91.77.88.87] by mcgi76.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:18:31 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:18:31 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <118539074.1258323511.44388760.23420@mcgi76.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF:SP2KDS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Marcin, LF! Poor trace 137.706.0 into mode-10 into my location today http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/16nov2009_SP2KDS/135.58W_10_00035.jpg 73! -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db02.mx.aol.com (rly-db02.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.77]) by air-db01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB012-ab04afaaec711d; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:32:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB026-ab04afaaec711d; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:32:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8CLa-000260-OF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:30:50 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8CLa-00025r-1U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:30:50 +0000 Received: from smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.12]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8CLX-00020t-Cu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:30:49 +0000 Received: from bb-87-82-24-206.ukonline.co.uk ([87.82.24.206] helo=[192.168.0.3]) by smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N8CLW-000Boz-Iq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:30:46 +0000 Message-ID: <4AFAAE9C.1070304@ukonline.co.uk> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:31:24 +0000 From: Peter Dodd User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001101ca621e$dcdc3380$96949a80$@princeton.edu> <20091110192309.4v8agotbs0k0gocs@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <004a01ca6249$d91531e0$8b3f95a0$@princeton.edu> <20091110222951.cr4qtrqagcwcowok@webmail6.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20091110222951.cr4qtrqagcwcowok@webmail6.kuleuven.be> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Ferrite characteristics Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Does anyone know of a method of measuring the characteristics (permeability) of ferrite cores? I have a box of these most without any identification although I do have T200, 68-2T and T68-2s whose characteristics are known. It occurs to me that you can make a tuned circuit and measure resonance with a GDO when a ferrite core is inserted into the inductance. A graph could be made of the different resonances with different cores, to extrapolate the unknowns. However I think that ferrite bulk might be a problem. For example I guess the red T cores use the same material but would there be a difference between the T200 and the T68? I have lots of material about ferrites in general - I just want to know what I have in my junk box. I am not interested in exact measurements, I just want to know if a core is suitable for a specific job. Regards Peter, G3LDO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (rly-ma06.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.50]) by air-ma10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA103-8b14b05ef3e5; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:22:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA063-8b14b05ef3e5; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:22:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBIB8-00047K-U7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:20:50 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBIB8-00047B-3r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:20:50 +0000 Received: from outbound03.telus.net ([199.185.220.222]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBIB5-0005uD-Cs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:20:50 +0000 Received: from edtnaa02.telusplanet.net ([75.157.140.241]) by priv-edtnes29.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091120011544.GTJR20472.priv-edtnes29.telusplanet.net@edtnaa02.telusplanet.net> for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:15:44 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.67] (d75-157-140-241.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.140.241]) by edtnaa02.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 7DAAA3C3239E2867 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:15:44 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4B05EDBF.6090006@telus.net> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:15:43 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 'Sporadic incidents' Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi All Industry Canada has ruled... See the 600m Buttulator for the latest emission... Good day eh? Scott VE7TIL CN89dk http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de07.mx.aol.com (rly-de07.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.143]) by air-de07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE074-4ee4af89199367; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:03:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE077-4ee4af89199367; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:03:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7cJG-0004wn-J6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:02:02 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7cJG-0004we-6L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:02:02 +0000 Received: from mail-yx0-f203.google.com ([209.85.210.203]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7cIO-0002Jo-Sg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:01:09 +0000 Received: by yxe41 with SMTP id 41so9217719yxe.30 for ; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:01:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pQiTrI+R8GkNAHR+RTPzr2NR9XTtIWwNIi+PLPjm1s4=; b=LA5LmXcaw5hVjMPC8H8A9NumrOyhF8ITftQCupuS872LHB93g59cCdrErvlOF2FXOE CCkI5daPgks/J+DLdDiJB1pRNT18sh9SOy9jqm1M3PcLzLRWySylC8/t2z9fsGzOsZUp eUgh28fPvKCzug5EpIU3OoZTj/3mHHS3R+dUQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=REAxomAb/5bqztZm/j9ID4PL4UrE61djlNp6a07w+X8oOiWNJBsqFMwKyjMHnKYEEy OKf2m8f28FnsuvSwOwFfNbpNabxDL1uorIqq7hBRf75fzOcMu4NpOSGkUUH4xLVJvkEJ Pd8pimmv+h5Nml4aHxCFRb9Zu+VsYAhptLyGQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.70.36 with SMTP id s36mr4058228yba.114.1257804113955; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:01:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <000001ca6186$436317c0$0900a8c0@lark> References: <200911091000250405.1609D0BF@smtp2.numeo.fr> <000001ca6186$436317c0$0900a8c0@lark> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:01:53 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70911091401t3e1cdfdcxa72724a21abf1cd5@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Fwd: The death of Loran -again? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m262.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Alan, See: http://www.gpsworld.com/gnss-system/news/administration-ax-falls-pnt-backup-loran-c-9087 and http://pnt.gov/policy/legislation/bills.shtml#loran -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Alan Melia wrote: > Hi John, that URL you copied from Rob doesnt work for me. There is othing on > the Megapulse site of the USCG sire about it closing, the budget is not cut > it is reduced and I guess USCG have to decide how best to spend it. I dont > expect it to affect the French who being,.... well, French ?..... will > continue to go their own way!! > > Do you have 1pps GPS capability?? eke "Clicklock" as there is an interesting > project that may come up. Only resures a sound card and an AM receiver and a > GPS 1pps > > Best Wishes to you and Rosie > Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John RABSON" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 9:00 AM > Subject: LF: Fwd: The death of Loran -again? > > >> >> Received from Rob Gill : >> >> > >> >Possibly more likely this time? >> > >> >Questex link: >> >http://www.gpsworld.com/node/9087Loran >> > >> >Rob >> >> F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC092-b314afb4fd4272; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:59:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC075-b314afb4fd4272; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:59:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8N4x-000595-Vc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:58:23 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8N4x-00058w-Gw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:58:23 +0000 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8N4H-0001X7-Fn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:57:42 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.4]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091111235811.USDZ17277.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:58:11 +0000 Received: from [86.27.93.99] (helo=jimdesk) by know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8N4l-0007Ca-9O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:58:11 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: References: <4AFB477C.5090604@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <001501ca6326$ff28c710$0617aac0@jimdesk> <00f301ca6329$8ba907c0$0900a8c0@lark> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:58:11 -0000 Message-ID: <001901ca632a$d3356ab0$0617aac0@jimdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <00f301ca6329$8ba907c0$0900a8c0@lark> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcpjKajIZ9/xHhU9Ra+lne/FBfoQjgAAHNpw X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=nfSI54I6a24A:10 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=8RloEfZUAAAA:8 a=AjGhAieJ-_aap6J-kAoA:9 a=sYWwyND2sMjOYMK4ToYA:7 a=VaCxxJssEranf6et8POMgCpGPFIA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=O58u2wXj750A:10 a=ipRgxC41WzTWyCcK:21 a=nHxBIGmvrgtdk2HD:21 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 The soundcard leads are via an opto-isolator interface and the leads from the interface to laptop are wound on ferrite cores, approx 8 turns each for tx and rx. I will check the mains psu for the dell d610 laptop as that could be introducing hum or picking up rf from the tx (IC-735). It might need ferrites on the leads to and from the SMPSU I've just turned "the wick" down on the tx/rx inputs and also the rf gain on ic 735 till the needle just shifted in case it was being over-driven so I'll see how that works. Not a prob when I was QRPpp but as sigs improve with dark nights I'd noticed it too Thanks to John and others for heads up and suggestions With best regards Jim Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia Sent: 11 November 2009 23:49 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: RE: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! Hi Jim what kind of PC are you using. If a desktop are to sure it has the mains safety earth connected.....I have come across this problem before some 3 connecter IEC moulded leads with only two wires in them!! If a laptop then unless you use a radio earth that may all be floating. Sometimes it is necessary to use an tranformer on the audio leads to and from the PC to gain isolation from the hum and noise. I use old telephone hybrid transformers 600ohm to 600 ohm ferrite cored. Best Wishes Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Cowburn" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 11:30 PM Subject: LF: RE: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! > Hi John > > I'll have a look see. I've noticed on strong sigs from me (few and far > between!) I get multiple decodes +50 and -50. I'm not aware of any obvious > mains hum if I monitor my outgoing sigs and all leads are wound on ferrite > cores, but clearly something is amiss. > > I shall look into it and see what I can find > > Cheers for the heads up > > With best regards > > > Jim > > > Dr. James Cowburn > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John P-G > Sent: 11 November 2009 23:24 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! > > Jim. LF > > It looks like G7NKS has a 50/100Hz problem on the audio - both in TX and > RX directions - there are up to 3 decodes by Jim of a single station (eg > G3YXM), spaced by 50 & 100Hz and I see also that M0BMU is also reporting > multiple decodes of G7NKS with the same 50/100Hz spacing. > > Jim, have you some mains hum affecting the audio in/out of the PC? > > Cheers, > > John > GM4SLV > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me04.mx.aol.com (rly-me04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.38]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME054-9ad4af74e00dd; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:02:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME041-9ad4af74e00dd; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:02:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7GlM-0001dN-4i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:01:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7GlL-0001dE-Nw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:01:35 +0000 Received: from smtp826.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.13.123]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7GkP-0002ww-Di for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:00:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 29949 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2009 22:47:57 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=srD2SwAOp89AQN6sfVJbJ+cmfEmc2K+nb5ljuveHkvP1xS2K/ge9kWfdBXHdruMSk3sLfzAsHl7qWtUgXR8qIIB3tzu19iWzGUSKcVyNgQdSKzwUXjg81jX/kIrN8zRyDbPTCcDZZfqYPy6VLq/OKBSD0Rdtb4hFadBAF8HVO0I= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@213.122.47.26 with login) by smtp826.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 2009 22:47:56 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: KHdpK2OswBBXlm4uxknbEiS4uYdJoGknHN90u4K8__lTafnafZg- X-YMail-OSG: 8x0kdh0VM1mbYeFDChR6BuvtT33cNXUkF25tFph6rQ2yVfqL.YYAcyMUGoEIeMalZhBiM0UBVsMIUfTk8IrBsvOerWBFgMEYm37sPJRJ6asHOOfUv0e676F1.l2vok4OH_Vg4x7F2dRHp5lh72urVM1DrS6I0XE6GAPviMwJ.ZHymsxL6nBC7CgAdSr3Eh2fIJ69TjDVVFjUez0ebJjebqW7c0WZCq8BnFa4UkcY59bvmU2AcxIBMfS2sFSk.bjmGmSwhnZXng.aJ18Sxrp8qtQJmXIa8.QmkmDK4DcsHaxHXNxOR.U.KMcBa8LiFx_HOisr8M6Nxp3.XjS1674hM3gFXQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <009601ca60c5$84c5f4b0$0900a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <001b01ca6086$cd0966b0$0617aac0@jimdesk> <004101ca60ab$ef362e60$0900a8c0@lark> <4AF7224D.4010707@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:25:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Losses due to ant in tree? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Yeah well in your case,John, the nearest tree is on the Mainland :-)) Best Wishes Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "John P-G" To: Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 7:55 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Losses due to ant in tree? > > > Alan Melia wrote: > > May thumbnail approack says put a vertical at least > > as far away from trees, <...> as it is high. Not aways easy! > > > > > Depends where you live :-) > > http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/DCP_2235.JPG > > John > GM4SLV > Treeless Shetland > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc09.mx.aol.com (rly-mc09.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.93]) by air-mc05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC051-d944b00a05d392; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:44:30 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC094-d944b00a05d392; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:44:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9pgY-0003TM-O1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:43:14 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9pgY-0003TD-4d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:43:14 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9pgW-0002lZ-P9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:43:14 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3433.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3EBFB7000083 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:43:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3433.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 327417000084 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:43:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.53.205]) by mwinf3433.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id B78507000083 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:43:02 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091116004302751.B78507000083@mwinf3433.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <4915D9CBCCFF4367AF40AAB2D0A2C327@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <6583950e.56d7c7cc.4b009b55.e3283@go2.pl In-Reply-To: <6583950e.56d7c7cc.4b009b55.e3283@go2.pl Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:42:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: G0NBD WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Many thanks Marcin 73 -G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 12:22 AM To: Subject: LF: G0NBD WSPR > > Dear Graham, LF > WSPR signal G0NBD: > 0004 -9 1.1 0.503844 0 G0NBD IO83 23 > 0010 -25 1.0 0.503842 0 G0NBD IO83 23 > 0018 -22 0.9 0.503842 0 G0NBD IO83 23 > 73! Marcin SQ2BXI > (SP2KDS Team) > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da09.mx.aol.com (rly-da09.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.83]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDA052-a8e4b0c3708302; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:42:17 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA096-a8e4b0c3708302; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:42:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ND1G5-0006t4-Ja for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:41:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ND1G5-0006sv-6A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:41:05 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ND1G4-0003Sj-59 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:41:05 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so6775641bwz.4 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:40:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=gmd5KLHoYMVlsBwaFXJneX4P40r3HShW2C43iwkZeG0=; b=HMPPEDqXDb+RlT/0MFN7bY1xuFNlSCUeNM3EzKRKDPDtd/Id9523g34y4YGs8EB1ws 80VM29YtgLHsrPGshQNreUFTBp9JTAWgnaaikyVO1yaAXbm97BSMrZR1AwxPRKu1CvUw Wh3jKpbiOSPW0rS5M8oACfCQwYFRJS7gKy4vk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=gLrunHbqRwumlbnQ4Ts/ewfHptVAw30r+2CS4Nk+vqY9Dit23UINw0s5mJofrjyjXB gv2hkh8Oh9XG55F1qDy6ZD7Dw/UU51k4Bev/CAIr+r/TngyoQQc+uzwbtpcVT4rZsm8v WA2gH05KgxRMs1ZhNB9NBphVhsluBRb8KJDOE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.26.134 with SMTP id e6mr3041150bkc.87.1259091657931; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:40:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:40:57 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911241140j230515e9kcbcaffd3911ccb82@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_10_20=0.945,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: IRF510 500kHz PA stability issues - advice please Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00032555b50a02bbd80479231f54 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m209.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --00032555b50a02bbd80479231f54 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've been using a single IRF510 FET PA stage on 500kHz and it produces around 6-7W of RF. But, when adjusting my antenna I've managed to damage several devices now. I think the stage is running somewhere towards class-E looking at the PA drain waveform on the scope and I believe either the stage is going unstable or it is running in a condition in which too much current (and heat) is taken and the device fails. Are there any simple "rules of thumb" or design/biasing/decoupling guidelines to ensure that my devices don't destroy themselves with a less than perfect load? Any simple advice would be appreciated. 73s Roger G3XBM -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --00032555b50a02bbd80479231f54 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've been using a single IRF510 FET PA stage on 500kHz and it produces= around 6-7W of RF. But, when adjusting my antenna I've managed to dam= age several devices now.=A0 I think the stage is running somewhere towards= class-E looking at the PA drain waveform on the scope and I believe eithe= r the stage is going unstable or it is running in a condition in which too= much current (and heat) is taken and the device fails.

Are there any simple "rules of thumb" or design/biasing/deco= upling guidelines to ensure that my devices don't destroy themselves= with a less than perfect load?

Any simple advice would be appreci= ated.

73s
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--00032555b50a02bbd80479231f54-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb09.mx.aol.com (rly-mb09.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.167]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB022-d274b07b6eb121; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:46:49 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB093-d274b07b6eb121; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:46:22 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBmWn-0003RM-6S for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:45:13 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBmWl-0003RD-Vt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:45:12 +0000 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBmWj-0007k6-8o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:45:11 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.1]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091121094003.SYKZ17277.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:40:03 +0000 Received: from [81.109.247.175] (helo=desktop) by know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBmRl-0006Rt-Sa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:40:03 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: References: <20091120141648.8WGQY.1557635.root@mp17> <007f01ca6a1b$34a0b8d0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <009a01ca6a22$07a90470$0517aac0@desktop> <9afca2640911201343q6330c05cxbc250a456fc61952@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:39:57 -0000 Message-ID: <000f01ca6a8e$97d80f20$0517aac0@desktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <9afca2640911201343q6330c05cxbc250a456fc61952@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcpqKp7dEg5x0wWJQRSiF9pg01idLwAYkEQg X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jX188lzWSCQA:10 a=8RloEfZUAAAA:8 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=nN7BH9HXAAAA:8 a=fnYqA7hvAAAA:8 a=j6Q1dnSHAAAA:8 a=GbdeLIPe6U4U5j_syv0A:9 a=5a5wPlvpv7jtFlUYscQA:7 a=Z24HcA_M4BtqXtMAM-68lCKOfXYA:4 a=O58u2wXj750A:10 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=muIvw5a9-cgA:10 a=gA6IeH5FQcgA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 a=yre12JMCcONAJUPy:21 a=Mfy-UuinzJnzaJtC:21 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=4EHlyYgopu4XDhHgo30A:9 a=80CKpWDzqLSgmUmwTtUA:7 a=jBQkSH3L9w9Uss9Spr0TWAxQoyQA:4 a=1OdKWuaQUqg08G2b:21 a=aKpl4JqWlNFO67uJ:21 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: RE: LF: WSPR a QSO mode not just beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01CA6A8E.97D80F20" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=EXCUSE_16,HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01CA6A8E.97D80F20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Roger/LF The discussion at the RSGB meeting noted the ARRL's position that essentially if two stations make WSPR reports with each other and this is confirmed by QSL or sme other approved method then there has been a two way exchange of call sign, report and other info e.g. locator and that qualifies as a QSO for DXCC purposes. As you can imagine this was a little contentious to say the least with a lot of head shaking and muttering under breath from portions of the audience and nodding and smiles from others. I for one am not an avid DXCC chaser but for my own view I consider my 2 way reports as QSOs. As Rik says the WSJT programme has a QSO mode in WSPR but I found it hard to set up and also you need to have someone listening for the transmission so for simplicity I stay with WSPR. I've downloaded WSPR2 but I think I am being a luddite as I prefer the older version! (Hence my steadfast avoidance of Vista and W7!) Drop me a note if you fancy a CW QSO sometime and also we can try WSPR on 136. Chris XIZ has kindly offered to help me with the loan of coils and varios for 136 so I can get on that band. We are going to try for a 6m/600m x-band CW QSO with his home brew 6m rig! With best regards Jim Dr. James Cowburn 26 Birch Close Broom Biggleswade Beds SG18 9NR T +44 (0) 1767 600522 M+44 (0) 7967 300152 E james.cowburn@virgin.net The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you must not read this message. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. Consequently, this email is not intended to be contractually binding. If you received this in error, please contact the sender, return the message as well as its attachments and delete the whole from any computer. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Roger Lapthorn Sent: 20 November 2009 21:43 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: WSPR a QSO mode not just beacon Now I am unclear what really constitutes a WSPR QSO. Does me getting a WSPR database report from XX3XXX and he getting on from me at much the same time on the same database constitute a QSO? Or does it have to be a "real" QSO a bit like JT6m? I agree with Rik that an HF contest exchange contains less (mutually useful) data than either of these. 73s Roger G3XBM 2009/11/20 James Cowburn Dear All, According to the ARRL, WSPR contacts, if verified as two way, will qualify towards DXCC awards as they consider these to be a QSO mode and not simply a beacon. As there is an exchange of callsign, locator and signal strength then that was deemed sufficient by the ARRL to qualify for DXCC and as a QSO in a data mode much like RTTY or PSK31 for example. This was discussed at the recent RSGB conference in a session on WSPR. With best regards Jim -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton Sent: 20 November 2009 19:54 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: WD2XES WSPR 136.0 Recently there has been an upsurge in wspr BEACON appliance operators and your suggested frequency area is not the place for them. The bottom end would keep Beacon acty out of the way. There would still be room for the odd EU qrs operator, can't say I have heard many in recent years. The freq area 137 - 138 k/cs is frequently occupied by Russian and other EU dxers for inter Country working using CW and QRS and 136.5 - 137 for local CW working. NA stns wishing to work EU would still use 137 - 138 on CW and QRS and not be clobbered by wspr carriers going ON/OFF. I hope you see the logic G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:16 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: WD2XES WSPR 136.0 > Thanks for the suggestion, but I doubt it will cause you any more interference than it has for the last 5 years. From our perspective, the lower end of the band has long been reserved for EU to NA operation. > > John, W1TAG > > ---- mal hamilton wrote: > > om I woud suggest you Beacon at the extreme bottom end of the band and not > > in the middle of the CW and QRS DX portion. > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01CA6A8E.97D80F20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Roger/LF

 

The discussion= at the RSGB meeting noted the ARRL’s position that essentially if two stations make WSPR= reports with each other and this is confirmed by QSL or sme other approved met= hod then there has been a two way exchange of call sign, report and other info= e.g. locator and that qualifies as a QSO for DXCC purposes.

 

As you can imag= ine this was a little contentious to say the least with a lot of head shaking and muttering= under breath from portions of the audience and nodding and smiles from other= s.

 

I for one am no= t an avid DXCC chaser but for my own view I consider my 2 way reports as QSOs.  =

 

As Rik says the= WSJT programme has a QSO mode in WSPR but I found it hard to set up and also you need to have= someone listening for the transmission so for simplicity I stay with WSPR.

 

I’ve down= loaded WSPR2 but I think I am being a luddite as I prefer the older version!   (Hence= my steadfast avoidance of Vista and W7= !)

 

Drop me a note= if you fancy a CW QSO sometime and also we can try WSPR on 136.   Chris XIZ has ki= ndly offered to help me with the loan of coils and varios for 136 so I can= get on that band.  We are going to try for a 6m/600m x-band CW QSO with= his home brew 6m rig! 

 

With best regards=

 

 

Jim

 

 

Dr. James Cowbu= rn

26 Birch Close<= o:p>

Broom

Biggleswade

Beds=

SG18 9NR

 

T +44= (0) 1767 600522

M+44= (0) 7967 300152

E james.cowburn@virgin.net

 

The information= transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or pri= vileged material. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notifi= ed that you must not read this message.
Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking= of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other= than the intended recipient is prohibited.  Consequently, this email is no= t intended to be contractually binding.
If you received this in error, please contact the sender, return the= message as well as its attachments and delete the whole from any computer.=

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org [mailto:owner-= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Roger Lapthorn
Sent: 20 November 2009= 21:43
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: WSPR= a QSO mode not just beacon

 

Now I am unclea= r what really constitutes a WSPR QSO. Does me getting a WSPR database report from XX= 3XXX and he getting on from me at much the same time on the same database const= itute a QSO? Or does it have to be a "real" QSO a bit like JT6m?
I agree with Rik that an HF contest exchange contains less (mutually= useful) data than either of these.

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/11/20 James Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.net>

Dear All,

According to the ARRL, WSPR contacts, if verified as two way, will qua= lify
towards DXCC awards as they consider these to be a QSO mode and not si= mply a
beacon.

As there is an exchange of callsign, locator and signal strength then= that
was deemed sufficient by the ARRL to qualify for DXCC and as a QSO in= a data
mode much like RTTY or PSK31 for example.

This was discussed at the recent RSGB conference in a session on WSPR.=

With best regards


Jim



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb= _lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rs= gb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton=
Sent: 20 November 2009 19:54
To: rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: Re: WD2XES WSPR 136.0

Recently there has been an upsurge in wspr BEACON appliance operators= and
your suggested frequency area is not the place for them. The bottom en= d
would keep Beacon acty out of the way. There would still be room for= the odd
EU qrs operator, can't say I have heard many in recent years. The freq= area
137 - 138 k/cs is frequently occupied by Russian and other EU dxers fo= r
inter Country working using CW and     QRS and 136.5 - 137= for local CW
working.
NA stns wishing to work EU would still use 137 - 138 on CW and  Q= RS and not
be clobbered by wspr carriers going ON/OFF.
I hope you see the logic
G3KEV

----- Original Message -----
From: <w1tag@charter.net&g= t;
To: <rsgb_lf_group@= blacksheep.org>
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: WD2XES WSPR 136.0


> Thanks for the suggestion, but I doubt it will cause you any more=
interference than it has for the last 5 years. From our perspective,= the
lower end of the band has long been reserved for EU to NA operation. >
> John, W1TAG
>
> ---- mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net= > wrote:
> > om I woud suggest you Beacon at the extreme bottom end of th= e band and
not
> > in the middle of the CW and QRS DX portion.
>
>





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------=_NextPart_000_0010_01CA6A8E.97D80F20-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD011-9054afa79c8ed; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:46:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD055-9054afa79c8ed; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:46:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N88of-0001bH-Sr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:44:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N88of-0001b8-6q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:44:37 +0000 Received: from smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com ([195.200.78.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N88nv-0003wi-92 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:43:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 31449 invoked by uid 507); 11 Nov 2009 09:44:19 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO JR) (john.rabson@numeo.fr@217.67.155.178) by smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com with SMTP; 11 Nov 2009 09:44:19 +0100 Message-ID: <200911110944190430.2047E6C6@smtp2.numeo.fr> In-Reply-To: <1642D8D498F44022BC9CAC72278574E8@HPt680a> References: <773621.85981.qm@web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <1642D8D498F44022BC9CAC72278574E8@HPt680a> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:44:19 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: CW and WSPR... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Gentlemen, Given the sterile nature of the current discussion, and taking into accoun= t the date, perhaps we should have an Armistice in this matter. John F5VLF/G3PAI From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (rly-ma02.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.46]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMA012-8924b0d76fe315; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:27:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA024-8924b0d76fe315; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:27:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDMYw-0006Mo-Ug for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:25:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDMYw-0006Mf-Hb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:25:58 +0000 Received: from smtp818.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.247]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDMYv-0003AF-K1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:25:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 2598 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2009 18:25:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=v6kugBf+d+Vuy76NEGtnU97S05/FhK6HlOz9PruKaPSn9IGKgaOCjgvzw315oymHLBZFtJ0b4PMkkjqasU88ST6Tu1/O9CftYFal35yyG4LbCD9WwtSI16qv7175wP96WJI900SLVYrHxhTt9MIU5jMbC5ZHf08flLWp7Eqll+Y= ; Received: from unknown (HELO IBM7FFA209F07C) (c.ashby435@86.169.134.234 with login) by smtp818.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 2009 18:25:51 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: 9STUSnaswBBSd6nO_2gAC20jmYlWRjmg8d5iYd8s.rl181aR6Sw- X-YMail-OSG: SPsg9DEVM1mIq_H.qdjib1wxSrwZL49vTnSlBt_orTrHWT3A0rl2q.iF72WXG_5PW5PCizBOzniOksOLd9LomEJXqhurk95tTR2vZOSlIzVoOu3fz2YSFc_jcxfT00t455mgsyWoKX2ejg_R0OWjWaI84xVcK8Fjj2Nc5XeWmG_ycV3deOA4CNLIGQnZ9dO.6_tjrCP2mg01eNPguiTPkFxqJ6n1DPco_Z1.dzRAIBwsk0i98cPy6YIQRopXXeFL X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "Chris" To: "RSGB LF Group" Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:25:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Who? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01CA6DFC.B90B1D60" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.3 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01CA6DFC.B90B1D60 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_000E_01CA6DFC.B90B1D60" ------=_NextPart_001_000E_01CA6DFC.B90B1D60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, Does anybody know who was sending 'Y' last evening just before midnigh= t UTC on approx. 137.778kHz, please? Thanks, Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, JO01MI. ------=_NextPart_001_000E_01CA6DFC.B90B1D60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi All,
Does anybody know who was sending 'Y'= last evening=20 just before midnight UTC on approx. 137.778kHz, please?
Thanks,
Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent,=20 JO01MI.
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Marcin SQ2BXI > (SP2KDS Team) > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (rly-mg04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.110]) by air-mg04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG041-a084b09098234e; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:51:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG042-a084b09098234e; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:51:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NC95C-0000vx-2v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:50:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NC95B-0000vn-OS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:50:13 +0000 Received: from smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com ([195.200.78.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NC95B-0002yw-6x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:50:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 28836 invoked by uid 507); 22 Nov 2009 10:50:01 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO JR) (john.rabson@numeo.fr@217.67.155.178) by smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com with SMTP; 22 Nov 2009 10:50:01 +0100 Message-ID: <200911221050020027.1ECEB010@smtp2.numeo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:50:02 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Hellschreiber? about 40Hz below ASB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 At 0948z. F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINME103-9c34b12bf4021a; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:37:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME067-9c34b12bf4021a; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:36:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEock-0002wO-6x for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:35:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEocj-0002wF-SP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:35:53 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.55]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEoci-0003wP-Kq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:35:53 +0000 Received: from edmwaa03.telusplanet.net ([75.157.153.207]) by priv-edmwes33.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091129183549.OLN2079.priv-edmwes33.telusplanet.net@edmwaa03.telusplanet.net> for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:35:49 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.67] (d75-157-153-207.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.153.207]) by edmwaa03.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 4C413054EFF16D4C for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:35:49 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4B12BF05.3040108@telus.net> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:35:49 +0000 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AA6E@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> In-Reply-To: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AA6E@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: LF Propagation literature? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Stefan See: http://www.qsl.net/dk2fi/lw/lfprop1.pdf 73 Scott VE7TIL CN89dk http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/ Stefan Sch=E4fer wrote: > Hello Lowfers,=20 > Is there any good literature in the web (web-site or pdf or book) about= the propagation on LF? Best would be, if it is created by a ham for the= hams! > > 73, Stefan/DK7FC > =20 > > > =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD102-9114af6b0a811b; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:51:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD071-9114af6b0a811b; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:51:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N76HZ-0005fH-AD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:50:09 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N76HY-0005f8-Lm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:50:08 +0000 Received: from out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.244]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N76HW-00045V-8s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:50:08 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArwEAL8+9kpOlLtr/2dsb2JhbACCIi6BaYlDBssJhD4E X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,703,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="212094688" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.187.107]) by out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 08 Nov 2009 11:49:53 +0000 Message-ID: <01da01ca6069$9859e060$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <019f01ca6061$34a80040$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <9afca2640911080333n583d3ec3r31f5b21e4d047248@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:49:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01D7_01CA6069.98362BC0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_01D7_01CA6069.98362BC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Why do you not use CW to explore LF propagation, this way you get an= immediate real time report, no need for database or computer aided de= vices. Your signal is always strong enought with me for a CW QSO. What is your problem with CW ? I do not usually report BEACON acty it seems pointless to me when the= station could engage in a realtime QSO. Mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Roger Lapthorn=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 11:33 AM Subject: Re: LF: WSPR Dear Mal, Personally I have found WSPR to be a most useful tool when exploring= LF propagation and station improvements. The most valuable part has= being able to go on the air and almost instantly get feedback (via th= e WSPR database) about quite subtle changes to my station. The change= to my antenna a couple of days ago was an example when the reports fr= om M0BMU and G7NKS immediately told me that a real step change improve= ment had been achieved.=20 Amateur radio is about experiments, new challenges etc. WSPR has all= owed me to try some simple, but valuable, experiments these last few= weeks on 500kHz and I am grateful for Joe Taylor for having provided= such a useful tool to do these with and for all the open minded and= kind amateurs here who have helped me on my way. 73s Roger G3XBM 2009/11/8 mal hamilton WSPR is like a LAZY MAN using a WALKING STICK !!!!!! G3KEV --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.55/2489 - Release Date: 11= /08/09 07:37:00 ------=_NextPart_000_01D7_01CA6069.98362BC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Why do you not use CW to explore=  LF=20 propagation, this way you get an immediate real time report, no= need for=20 database or computer aided devices. Your signal is always strong= enought=20 with me for a CW QSO.
What is your problem with CW ?=
I do not usually report BEACON acty= it seems=20 pointless to me when the station could engage in a realtime QSO.
Mal/g3kev
 
 
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Sent: Sunday, November 08, 20= 09 11:33=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: WSPR

Dear Mal,

Personally I have found WSPR to be= a=20 most useful tool when exploring LF propagation and station=20 improvements. The most valuable part has being able to go on the air= and=20 almost instantly get feedback (via the WSPR database) about quite su= btle=20 changes to my station. The change to my antenna a couple of days ago= was an=20 example when the reports from M0BMU and G7NKS immediately tol= d me that=20 a real step change improvement had been achieved.

Amateur ra= dio is=20 about experiments, new challenges etc. WSPR has allowed me to try so= me simple,=20 but valuable, experiments these last few weeks on 500kHz and I am gr= ateful for=20 Joe Taylor for having provided such a useful tool to do these with= and for all=20 the open minded and kind amateurs here who have helped me on my=20 way.

73s
Roger G3XBM





2009/11/8 mal hamilton <= g3kevmal@talktalk.net= >
WSPR is like a LAZY MAN usin= g a WALKING=20 STICK !!!!!!
G3KEV
 



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------=_NextPart_000_029B_01CA6536.28878590-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (rly-dg10.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.94]) by air-dg02.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDG024-5fc4b12cdee14; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:39:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG107-5fc4b12cdee14; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:39:28 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEpbJ-0003UR-Uy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:38:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEpbJ-0003UI-DX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:38:29 +0000 Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEpbI-0004w7-Bh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:38:29 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-2.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.2]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091129193322.BNZW27507.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-2.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:33:22 +0000 Received: from [81.109.251.184] (helo=desktop) by know-smtpout-2.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEpWM-0007SM-2Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:33:22 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: References: <010c01ca7116$59615290$0317aac0@desktop> <843259.12319.qm@web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:33:14 -0000 Message-ID: <012c01ca712a$cdc9a5b0$0317aac0@desktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcpxJej71QGDrTu9TeiPyQ9vjSuyKwABLVYg In-Reply-To: <843259.12319.qm@web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=W3tOLUehizD4qj6VhtReFuw5MKb8d+XqjIxlDsIazEA= c=1 sm=0 a=yV0VUuhfYuMA:10 a=OUWZSAEI3c7N9m7cfo0A:9 a=2Rsl9OF9KijoEntqDZZlhQExoHwA:4 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=o4tPe36UhihKqsyKG20A:9 a=Ft-WNntLy6CDf6z1r8YA:7 a=vhcfWkz-aB1xgAU5Z3etyf2NxdsA:4 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: RE: LF: RTTY test transmission on 501.5 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_012D_01CA712A.CDC9A5B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN, HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_012D_01CA712A.CDC9A5B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Pete for the rprt Waiting to see if I get any further. Will extend to 21.00z and then QRT With best regards Jim ------=_NextPart_000_012D_01CA712A.CDC9A5B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thanks Pete for= the rprt

 

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Will extend to= 21.00z and then QRT

 

With best regards=

 

 

Jim

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_012D_01CA712A.CDC9A5B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df05.mx.aol.com (rly-df05.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.18]) by air-df08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF083-5524b059ff12b1; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:44:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF057-5524b059ff12b1; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:43:47 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBCty-0002bG-JG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:42:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBCty-0002b7-5H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:42:46 +0000 Received: from gv-out-0910.google.com ([216.239.58.190]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBCtx-0001r3-Bu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:42:46 +0000 Received: by gv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c6so499112gvd.38 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:42:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=uZjacJOrJgQ9H1o2WQoRHqBvZ55TPlBtpQRBpbxrD1I=; b=Uqu16h6ZFXeeFbCeYcx89bLDurt92RvKpq1kn3kvCvMxRfs26chffUyCr+8+RYDHIe YYEA77Uh4y9Z3KC2I89aA2vh+HXpSzBMS3OGci2kJ1zZ5fZziLFERlMeg5GwsxFkkigP iWgi1Qvy4frcXzbouE9OrC43n53flV7OSvsys= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=i3LhV0NgdkM+pJp6sQS+in961SUH6eRgmTNJTAEsS70lAGd4KBXBgw0uop6MhB7tSC cXmmQQZKei3OESHoC7p+pwBJOEdee73X3v9CdUh2pKf2M64zm6fEbsnEm2cIMNnDw9/a 7dXV0x6qOPUnIeFc/DmgWY6a3/ozqH8112Qqs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.170.18 with SMTP id q18mr51654hbe.50.1258659764369; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:42:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <955F0C15833A459FA2557314E925534C@AGB> References: <4B0570B4.8040209@telia.com> <955F0C15833A459FA2557314E925534C@AGB> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:42:44 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR 2.0 is now available Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m225.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Crafty. 'should' be pretty foolproof. Any old soundcard without 48000Hz ought to just throw-up an error. Andy www.g4jnt.com This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health and safety police 2009/11/19 Graham : > All > > I asked Joe =A0K1JT , this question a short time ago, below is the reply > G .. >> >> Q : Is there a =A0means to >> compensate =A0for the =A0sound =A0card =A0sampling rate? , > > No, but I think an even better feature. =A0The sample rate in WSPR 2.0= will > always be 48000 Hz. =A0This will prevent a problem that occurs in a few > systems that insist on sampling at 44100 Hz and then resampling (in the > driver) to the 12000 Hz requested by WSPR 1.2 ... and doing a *very* poo= r > job of the resampling. > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Andy Talbot" > Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 5:29 PM > To: > Subject: Re: LF: WSPR 2.0 is now available > >> >> It has a calibration procedure built in, but as far as I can make out, >> is aimed at solving frequency offset / tuning errors. =A0 I may have >> missed something, but there seems to be no facility to calibrate =A0for >> soundcard errors in the same way as WSJT does, which can affect symbol >> timing . =A0As we found in discussion on theis reflector a year or so >> ago. =A0 =A0Sample rate timing error is enough to destroy WSPR decoding >> even when signals are strong. >> >> May be wrong, and will go and re read the appendices associated with >> calibration, but no mention is made, specifically, of soundcard >> sampling rate error - only refrences to frequency error. >> FOrtunately, as WSPR is designed around 12000Hz sampling, this is >> rarely out by more than a few ppm in most modern cards. =A0 See my >> Column in the latest RadCom for some soundcard sampling rate >> measurements - and how bad some are >> >> >> Andy >> www.g4jnt.com >> >> This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health >> and safety police >> >> >> >> 2009/11/19 Johan Bodin : >>> >>> =A0http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/ >>> >>> >>> 73 >>> Johan SM6LKM >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc12.mx.aol.com (rly-mc12.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.96]) by air-mc01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC012-da94aef1460367; 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boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01CA5BE0.44F10AD0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01CA5BE0.44F10AD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All LFers, Does anybody know if someone is co-ordinating, compiling a list, or wh= atever, of the numerous errors in the RSGB publications 'LF Today'? I= see errors in the book first published in 2004 have been carried forw= ard (plus some extra ones!) in to the second edition first published= 2007. It's not so much the obvious errors, but the ones that aren't= quite so obvious that cause problems. I can't believe these books wer= e ever proof read. Chris, G4AYT. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01CA5BE0.44F10AD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi All LFers,
Does anybody know if someone is co-or= dinating,=20 compiling a list, or whatever, of the numerous errors in the RSGB publ= ications=20 'LF Today'? I see errors in the book first published in 2004 have been= carried=20 forward (plus some extra ones!) in to the second edition first publish= ed 2007.=20 It's not so much the obvious errors, but the ones that aren't quite so= obvious=20 that cause problems. I can't believe these books were ever proof=20 read.
Chris, G4AYT.
------=_NextPart_000_000A_01CA5BE0.44F10AD0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME032-99f4af6a69ddc; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:08:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME023-99f4af6a69ddc; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:08:14 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N75cE-0005I5-Vx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:07:26 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N75cE-0005Hw-JF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:07:26 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N75cC-0003ue-DR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:07:25 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id C31B351C003 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 12:07:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id A439F31E702 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 12:07:11 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id 641C518056; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 12:07:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from 12.168-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (12.168-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.240.168.12]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:07:11 +0100 Message-ID: <20091108120711.z1zbaakm0cw0cocg@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:07:11 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <019f01ca6061$34a80040$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <019f01ca6061$34a80040$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.240.168.12 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Mal, assuming you are a man with a lot of humor here another witticism: Using CW is like living in a cave and making fire by hitting stones. Using WSPR is like living in a modern house and making fire by one click on the gass stove. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T (using CW as well as WSPR) Quoting mal hamilton : > WSPR is like a LAZY MAN using a WALKING STICK !!!!!! > G3KEV > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA043-8c94b07cbd91c6; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:15:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA093-8c94b07cbd91c6; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:15:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBnvJ-0004bz-68 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:14:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBnvI-0004bq-OT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:14:36 +0000 Received: from smtp21.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.2]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBnvH-0006zI-Uh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:14:36 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2108.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3B1927000097 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:14:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (12.229.197-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.197.229.12]) by msfrf2108.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 49CE77000084 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:14:24 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091121111424302.49CE77000084@msfrf2108.sfr.fr Message-ID: <000a01ca6a9b$c59b60d0$0201a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: References: <000f01ca6a92$b47052b0$0201a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:14:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091120-1, 20/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: hi Lubos Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6AA4.26FBAFD0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6AA4.26FBAFD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HI Lubos.Mick. LF group=20 good morning Lubos many thanks for the good control very nice week and=20 Claude F8boj JN16WA ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Lubos OK2BVG=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 11:53 AM Subject: RE: LF: f8boj G3xdv qso Hello Claude, Mike and LF! Both, F8BOJ and G3XDV signals are nice. I am watching this QSO. Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS=20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------- From: f8boj@club-internet.fr To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:09:25 +0100 Subject: LF: f8boj G3xdv qso Hello Mick and LF good morning ...solid copy=20 ur O no probleme many thanks for the First qso=20 Claude F8boj JN16WA ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------- Windows 7: Kter=FD po=E8=EDta=E8 je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD? Dal=B9=ED= informace.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6AA4.26FBAFD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
HI Lubos.Mick. LF group
good morning Lubos many thanks for the good=20 control
very nice week and
Claude F8boj JN16WA
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Lub= os OK2BVG=20
Sent: Saturday, November 21,= 2009 11:53=20 AM
Subject: RE: LF: f8boj G3xdv= qso

Hello Claude, Mike and LF!
Both, F8BOJ and G3XDV= signals are=20 nice. I am watching this QSO.

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

From: f8boj@club-inter= net.fr
To: = rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date:=20 Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:09:25 +0100
Subject: LF: f8boj G3xdv qso
<= BR>
Hello Mick and LF
good morning ...solid copy <= /DIV>
ur O no probleme
many thanks for the First qso
Claude F8boj JN16WA
Windows 7: Kter=FD po=E8=EDta=E8 je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD? Dal=B9=ED infor= mace.=20
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6AA4.26FBAFD0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df05.mx.aol.com (rly-df05.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.18]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDF073-5534b128f172b0; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:11:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF058-5534b128f172b0; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:11:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NElPr-0001LX-Cc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:10:23 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NElPq-0001LO-Mk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:10:22 +0000 Received: from n18.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.145]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NElPq-0002yZ-7Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:10:22 +0000 Received: from [68.142.200.224] by n18.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2009 15:10:15 -0000 Received: from [68.142.201.246] by t5.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2009 15:10:15 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp407.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2009 15:10:15 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 684610.64945.bm@omp407.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 93211 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2009 15:10:15 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=tGVwdkgEb9h1tmUvg9g50HliIJ1vNS7iVkRSQQhsrmPYP1Z0w8OB9kDkEqYYrRdbRq6gia34WHG4Z1lEk1oyf/xcvla25uzAyzyIoFqSXNoPY6wUEoWqwmpSqgLTueLPOB/RA7rw3xEKKW/qGHhp1OqklgFQXv7Axmc5fWDbHKg= ; Received: from host86-138-92-60.range86-138.btcentralplus.com (ken.h.wright@86.138.92.60 with login) by smtp136.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2009 07:10:14 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: 9Y6mUHuswBAgnrOsukIiNdFDf95uy_Dz34nY1hlg2liKgYD952sjbg-- X-YMail-OSG: hKjnY.4VM1lYoFgUF9PzFqSnzIYxpYAmaEa3Ow7uCNU3xLZ8sDxuiPcKDkpSqjKB6OWTDbByvs_cZNxiPQB5fyJenbMF5GDYHw36ea8X2lfM4wiRi_mvtia8dCMQcWuw_EBEDF6Uo91w3GdJz63iuoxiUEHW8h_f.rYQ3cqv7PZ9UFTdJ5iifwjomb0Ey6ET._A5DOE0_WGOR6V7hR8EOksAtKGEyQnYj5vyPnxmduLfIWHlAjb9ui5ZW8ixFIepeQ.OwTp9ey7Ib4d5rEXU4e6NVBObTURJKc9f6tgoNIhAypbh1yX7Hy0q36S7in_h X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <7FC548B8EA774499A7E2BBC7DDDBD743@lindavideo> From: "Ken" To: References: <2746F3E144D3480AB85CD466920B1313@lindavideo> <003001ca70e7$24aaf3a0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <003c01ca70eb$0aa52120$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <4B126AF9.3050300@ntlworld.com> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:10:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv diode Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001C_01CA7106.0C5B4150" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01CA7106.0C5B4150 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Everyone. Thanks for the replies, I have some BY255's which are rated at 1300v= at 1A, the input to the diode stack is about 2.3KV peak, and was plan= ning to use two BY255s in series in each of the four legs, of the full= wave bridge, the problem is most resistors are only rated at 500v, he= nce using a single diode would remove the need for resistors. With res= istors rated at 500v, this would require 16 diodes, and there is not= that amount of space. Next question does anyone know of a source of= 470K resistore rated at 1KV? these are rare and expensive animals 73 Ken M0KHW =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: David Towers=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 12:37 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv diode Hi Mal surely "in series" to give a 4 KV diode at 1amp ? dave G8SZX mal hamilton wrote:=20 Ken On the serious side, use 6 x 1Kvolt @ 1A in parallel if u are stuc= k. Don't get zapped=20 73 mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:28 AM Subject: LF: Re: 4kv diode=20 Electric Chair Co Zapenda Cul de sac Hellda State Zip73 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ken=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:04 AM Subject: LF: 4kv diode=20 Hello All. I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or equivalent diode, BY4 4kv= @ 1A, BY6 6kv @ 1A, I have searched the web and looked in Farnell,= any ideas please. 73. Ken M0KHW =20 ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01CA7106.0C5B4150 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Everyone.
Thanks for the replies, I have some= BY255's which=20 are rated at 1300v at 1A, the input to the diode stack is about= 2.3KV peak,=20 and was planning to use two BY255s in series in each of the four legs,=  of=20 the full wave bridge, the problem is most resistors are only rated at= 500v,=20 hence using a single diode would remove the need for resistors. W= ith=20 resistors rated at 500v, this would require 16 diodes, and there is no= t that=20 amount of space. Next question does anyone know of a source of 470K re= sistore=20 rated at 1KV? these are rare and expensive animals
 
73
Ken
M0KHW  
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 David Towers
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 20= 09 12:37=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv= diode

Hi Mal
surely "in series" to give a 4 KV diode at= 1amp=20 ?
dave G8SZX



mal hamilton wrote:=20
Ken
On the serious side, use 6 x 1Kvo= lt @ 1A in=20 parallel if u are stuck.
Don't get zapped
73 mal/g3kev
 
-----=20 Original Message -----
From:=20 mal hamilton
Sent:=20 Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:28 AM
Subject:=20 LF: Re: 4kv diode

Electric Chair Co
Zapenda Cul de sac
Hellda State
Zip73
 
-----=20 Original Message -----
From:=20 Ken=20
Sent:=20 Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:04 AM
Subject:=20 LF: 4kv diode

Hello All.
I am looking for a BY4 or BY6= or equivalent=20 diode, BY4   4kv @ 1A, BY6  6kv @ 1A, I have se= arched the=20 web and looked in Farnell, any ideas please.
 
73.
Ken
 
M0KHW  &nbs= p;
Thanks for those very interesting measurements Dave.
I was running 50 watts of RF to a 40m inverted 'L' at 10m.
I've= measure my field strength as being 640 mW ERP . .
Hopefully these par= ameters all tie up . .
if not then it's back to the drawing board.
=
73
Chris G3XIZ
IO92UB

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o= rg
Sent: Sun, 22 Novem= ber, 2009 12:10:45
Subject: LF:= [500 khz] M0JXM & G3XIZ

=20 =20
Hi,=20 Dennis and Chris.
 
I=20 checked your relative signal strengths during your QSO on 500 kHz this mor= ning,=20 using the Wandel & Golterman SPM-30. M0JXM was averaging -74 dBm, and= G3XIZ=20 was averaging -62 dBm, i.e. 12 dB stronger. If you know how much RF power= you=20 were each using, you can deduce your relative antenna=20 efficiencies.
 
Hope=20 this is useful.
 
73,=20 Dave G3WCB IO91RM
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dave=20 G3WCB
Sent: 21 November 2009 11:38
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500 khz]=20 M0JXM...

Hi,=20 Dennis.
 
Your=20 signals are RST 579 here this morning. I can also hear G3DXZ at 349/QSB,= but=20 he's sending too fast for reliable copy at this end.=20
 
My antenna is a 20m long=20 double wire "tee" at 5m, and the RX is a W&G SPM-30 with a tuned J31= 0=20 pre-amp. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, s.e= .=20 England
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of DENNIS= =20 EASTERLING
Sent: 18 November 2009 17:16
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Lost=20 QSO

Hello Mal
 
Sorry if I left you in the lurch&= nbsp; 16.5=20 today, after giving you a report 599 something happened and a single= =20 frequency signal came up on top of you and slowly drifted down=20 frequency, perhaps someone tuning?
 
Better luck next time.
 
73 Dennis=20 M0JXM

Hel= lo Graham,

 

Par= tly our good old PSK Sounder programm can decode STANAG messages (identifier…)

For= further steps there is only commercial software available as far as I know.=

http://www.klingenfus= s.org/perseus.htm

(fo= r example –hi--)

 

Vy= 73 de Gerhard  //  DK6NI

 

=3D= =3D=3D=3D

 

 

 

Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham
Gesendet: Dienstag, 24.= November 2009 22:42
An: rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org
Betreff: LF: STANAG ..= What software is this showing ??

 

STANAG .. What software is this = showing ??

 

tnx - G ..

 

 

 


------=_NextPart_000_001C_01CA7106.0C5B4150-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md03.mx.aol.com (rly-md03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.141]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD032-8f34afd4a3640; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:00:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD033-8f34afd4a3640; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:59:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8unp-0002CB-LC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:58:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8unp-0002C2-77 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:58:57 +0000 Received: from mx01.infotech.at ([213.174.240.1]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8uno-0005cn-JK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:58:57 +0000 Received: from [213.174.255.89] by mx01.infotech.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8unn-0000i3-Fj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:58:55 +0100 Message-ID: <4AFD4A36.4070406@inext.at> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:59:50 +0100 From: Oberreiter Oswald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01ca6454$306b0170$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> In-Reply-To: <000c01ca6454$306b0170$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: oe5odl/f8boj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hallo Claude tahnks fer qso es raport running here only 30 % pwr 120 watts and smaler antenna , so thanks 73 good weekend oe5odl ossi Claude Berthebaud schrieb: > Hello Ossi LF group > Good afternon Ossi very signal in JN16WA > stopping the beacon for the qso.. > Many thanks for the new contact > good week end all > Claude F8boj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da03.mx.aol.com (rly-da03.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.77]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA073-a5a4afc848a3a1; 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Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:55:30 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:55:30 +0000 (GMT) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <2EB9AB3966984B91BB0C369B32CF12FC@AGB> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1621975262-1258062930=:98089" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d286.2 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-1621975262-1258062930=:98089 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just more boring old Beacon stations claging up MF.....look on RAC web sit= e... http://www.rac.ca/=A0 ........ =A0 2008-11-10 Canadian Amateurs on 600 Metres Industry Canada has accepted an RAC propos= al whereby selected Canadian radio amateurs would be permitted to operate= in the vicinity of 500 kHz. These amateur operations would support Canada= 's efforts to action a proposal on the agenda of the 2011 World Radio Conf= erence (WRC2011) which, if adopted, would create an amateur allocation in= the 600-meter band. Industry Canada have authorized RAC to recommend amat= eurs who would be licensed to operate in the 504 to 509 kHz band with a ma= ximum power of 20 watts ERP and bandwidth up to 1 kHz. Stations operating= in this band would be technically operating under Special Developmental= Licenses although they would all be radio amateurs. Distinct call signs= would be used and the licenses would be renewable annually subject to the= amateur demonstrating the research he has carried out. More information= will follow shortly in the pages of TCA or via subsequent bulletins. Brya= n Rawlings VE3QN/VE2QNN Radio Amateurs of/du Canada, Inc.=20 =A0 =A0 73 petefmt --- On Thu, 12/11/09, Graham wrote: From: Graham Subject: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature statio= ns ?? To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 21:43 Can anyone clarify the=A0 situation as to=A0 who can work who=20 is this the=A0 same as the=A0 USA ?=A0 =A0 Tnx - G .. =A0=A0 >From the=A0 IARU=A0 web site=20 As of 30 October 2009 Canada issued two licences in the Developmental Serv= ice in the range 504-509 kHz. VE1ZZ has been assigned VX9PSO and is reported on 504.6 kHz=20 VO1NA has been assigned VX9MRC and is reported on 507.77 and 508.5 kHz Two more stations, VE3OHH and VE7BDQ,=A0are expected to become active soon= .=20 =20 --0-1621975262-1258062930=:98089 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Just more boring old Beacon stations= claging up MF.....look on RAC web site... = http://www.rac.ca/  ........
 

2008-11-10

Canadian Amateurs on 600 Metres Industry Canada has accepted an RAC= proposal whereby selected Canadian radio amateurs would be permitted to= operate in the vicinity of 500 kHz. These amateur operations would suppor= t Canada's efforts to action a proposal on the agenda of the 2011 World Ra= dio Conference (WRC2011) which, if adopted, would create an amateur alloca= tion in the 600-meter band. Industry Canada have authorized RAC to recomme= nd amateurs who would be licensed to operate in the 504 to 509 kHz band wi= th a maximum power of 20 watts ERP and bandwidth up to 1 kHz. Stations ope= rating in this band would be technically operating under Special Developme= ntal Licenses although they would all be radio amateurs. Distinct call sig= ns would be used and the licenses would be renewable annually subject to= the amateur demonstrating the research he has carried out. More informati= on will follow shortly in the pages of TCA or via subsequent bulletins. Br= yan Rawlings VE3QN/VE2QNN Radio Amateurs of/du Canada, Inc.
 
 
73 petefmt

--- On Thu, 12/11/09, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.= fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

From: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>Subject: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stat= ions ??
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Thursday, 12 November= , 2009, 21:43

Can anyone clarify the  situation as to = ; who can work who
is this the  same as the  USA ? 
 <= /DIV>
Tnx - G ..   
From the  IARU  web site
As of 30 October 2009 Canada issued two licences in the Developmental= Service in the range 504-509 kHz.
  • VE1ZZ has been assigned VX9PSO and is reported on 504.6 kHz=20
  • VO1NA has been assigned VX9MRC and is reported on 507.77 and 508.5 kHz=
Two more stations, VE3OHH and VE7BDQ, are expected to become act= ive soon.



=20 --0-1621975262-1258062930=:98089-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD082-b754b02e84821f; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:16:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD047-b754b02e84821f; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:15:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NASZj-0004xF-WF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:14:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NASZj-0004x6-KE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:14:47 +0000 Received: from web28105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.125]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NASZj-0001VV-H6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:14:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 45922 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Nov 2009 18:14:41 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1258481681; bh=M7wiwUNYGWpuTXA+q+H3+F5/KVj1aw9yUWijtsA5+os=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CYBlwgyHUgRMEJnW3fXBP3hzMlyuqkNULWtAGMZ8upb9CtmTOGI+OLTYjpLORfFA2/CPqnb7b0VPqad22jIenmbSj34i2RdW61jGtV2z6kQtrvdZiR84MRWoHNzh10Z4987iZSb48v0INpzmMfokB+kqbb/Zc8tatO6ZR8pk1PY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=K3ATEDihM7UDm0ZnsWl4XY9UxYp1vuyNxOd2McjUjOjfXvJlwyWN7rbHWDAg8ZAG5dPIm1uM/gIQHscTzsKM8cwABkbe6uoCGaOLNpxn5eh/q+jiwmHDkDo1E693CBcvzz6GPz6OF2mwPUirUGJbLN+fcDhDqb1OKvqCmIGZCxY=; Message-ID: <891553.45476.qm@web28105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: X_z9EKIVM1lGSyUkOjOMhPOHmbKFOpgYbhY33ed0K8xvix.qgznhbeeI8KASAiD5WutS.6NzSXgP2djQtDENLOBwQGNZCfztSq3MFc5xZS4K93RWM3UBfiNoQH9y.89Oi1MxKy1NL2xh1zN_rEpJDn4li2HE7B9bAVR.xp4.f52heoeoQzOm8fZLkjieuVrSLskqKuZMo6CR1atwMttNvmzmqWC9AuzXhNbnAfM6hHdnlzfH0bAa7Kv7MlD7dZn40kVuj1mMmjW1KmL8DcuQ6LhSfljfjEJNf1yyEaz95WzNCZEL9pGQ98i2x_1GVFhu_wh5puY- Received: from [81.155.114.50] by web28105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:14:41 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:14:41 -0800 (PST) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: Trans. : LF: 136kHz WSPR tests Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1372993807-1258481681=:45476" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d234.2 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-1372993807-1258481681=:45476 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Roger n group =A0 Much as it pains me (being wspr and all) , yes I am happy set up on 136kc/= s. Please quote a dial frequency,=A0usb I guess? Also when abt? =A0 73 petefmt --- On Tue, 17/11/09, F4DTL@aol.com wrote: From: F4DTL@aol.com Subject: Trans. : LF: 136kHz WSPR tests To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tuesday, 17 November, 2009, 17:30 =A0 =20 --0-1372993807-1258481681=:45476 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Roger n group
 
Much as it pains me (being wspr and all) , yes I am happy set up on= 136kc/s. Please quote a dial frequency, usb I guess? Also when abt?<= /DIV>
 
73 petefmt

--- On Tue, 17/11/09, F4DTL@aol.com <F4DTL= @aol.com> wrote:

From: F4DTL@aol.com <F4DTL@aol.com>
S= ubject: Trans. : LF: 136kHz WSPR tests
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
Date: Tuesday, 17 November, 2009, 17:30

 

=20 --0-1372993807-1258481681=:45476-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (rly-dc09.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.38]) by air-dc02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC023-b404af6e8a03b; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:49:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC094-b404af6e8a03b; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:49:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7A0p-00073u-0G for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:49:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7A0o-00073k-Kj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:49:06 +0000 Received: from smtp21.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.2]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7A0m-0005L3-Sp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:49:06 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2126.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8DFE870000A1 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:48:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (222.43.196-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.196.43.222]) by msfrf2126.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 4EB6E700009E for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:48:59 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091108154859322.4EB6E700009E@msfrf2126.sfr.fr Message-ID: <001501ca608a$fcb90e20$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:48:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091108-0, 08/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: info f8boj Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01CA6093.5E312AE0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01CA6093.5E312AE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable sorry the frequency is 13705.0 hz Claude f8boj ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01CA6093.5E312AE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
sorry
the frequency is 13705.0 hz
Claude f8boj
------=_NextPart_000_0012_01CA6093.5E312AE0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (rly-mf08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.178]) by air-mf08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF081-9794af06576150; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:16:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF087-9794af06576150; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:16:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N5Mwh-000863-Iz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:13:27 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N5Mwh-00085u-60 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:13:27 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N5MvE-0000vf-Iw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:12:01 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3504.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9C1D37000081 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:13:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3504.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 905E77000084 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:13:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.42.7]) by mwinf3504.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 53F357000081 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:13:07 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091103171307343.53F357000081@mwinf3504.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <993BF7557D4B4C5F8251F19CEB166E93@IBM7FFA209F07C> In-Reply-To: <993BF7557D4B4C5F8251F19CEB166E93@IBM7FFA209F07C> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 17:13:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Hell Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003D_01CA5CA8.E9150350" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01CA5CA8.E9150350 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chris, There are 4 types of hell in multi psk as well .. not sure if it su= pports com port cw key tx ..there is psk and fm modes as well=20 G .=20 From: Chris=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 9:26 AM To: RSGB LF Group=20 Subject: LF: Hell Hi All, Does anybody know if the Hell software is still available and, if so,= where from, please? Thank you and 73, Chris, G4AYT. ----------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.45/2476 - Release Date: 11/0= 2/09 07:51:00 ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01CA5CA8.E9150350 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Chris,
 
There are  4 types of  hell= in multi psk=20 as well  .. not sure if it supports com port cw  key tx ..th= ere =20 is psk and  fm modes as well
 
G .

From: Chris
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 9:26 AM
Subject: LF: Hell

Hi All,
Does anybody know if the Hell softwar= e is still=20 available and, if so, where from, please?
Thank you and 73,
Chris, G4AYT.


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG= - www.avg.com
Version: 8.5.4= 23 / Virus Database:=20 270.14.45/2476 - Release Date: 11/02/09 07:51:00


------=_NextPart_000_003D_01CA5CA8.E9150350-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb09.mx.aol.com (rly-mb09.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.167]) by air-mb05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB052-d2a4b0989a7366; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:57:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB096-d2a4b0989a7366; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:57:45 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCHc4-0004qc-Mr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:56:44 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCHc4-0004qT-1W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:56:44 +0000 Received: from out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.237]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCHc2-0005TQ-Do for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:56:44 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnsFAA4YCUtcHEQ8/2dsb2JhbACCT4s5BsRlhDwE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,267,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="114955547" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.28.68.60]) by out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 22 Nov 2009 18:56:36 +0000 Message-ID: <00ad01ca6ba5$82fec130$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:56:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: G3KEV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00AA_01CA6BA5.82AD93F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00AA_01CA6BA5.82AD93F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tony Tnx ur call but the qsb was severe. We have worked before on cw so do= not understand why u are so weak at present. de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Anton B=E4rtschi=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 5:13 PM Subject: LF: G3KEV You are "O" here, dear Mal, ufb. Sorry we couldn't make it. Probably= my antenna is to small. It seems to me, that my limit is around 800-9= 00km on Longwave. Power is 1kW and I can't get much higher. But one da= y, we may get the permission for 500kHz and there it should be much ea= sier, even in normal CW. 73 de Toni, HB9ASB ------=_NextPart_000_00AA_01CA6BA5.82AD93F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tony
Tnx ur call but the qsb was severe.= We have worked=20 before on cw so do not understand why u are so weak at present.=
 
de mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Anton= B=E4rtschi=20
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 20= 09 5:13=20 PM
Subject: LF: G3KEV

You are "O" here, dear Mal, ufb. Sorry we couldn't ma= ke it.=20 Probably my antenna is to small. It seems to me, that my limit is ar= ound=20 800-900km on Longwave. Power is 1kW and I can't get much higher. But= one day,=20 we may get the permission for 500kHz and there it should be much eas= ier, even=20 in normal CW.
73 de Toni, HB9ASB
<= /BLOCKQUOTE> ------=_NextPart_000_00AA_01CA6BA5.82AD93F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da03.mx.aol.com (rly-da03.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.77]) by air-da01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA012-a604af1c8432c9; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:30:43 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA038-a604af1c8432c9; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:30:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N5kbP-00076q-C1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:29:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N5kbO-00076h-Qg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:29:02 +0000 Received: from mail-gx0-f210.google.com ([209.85.217.210]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N5ka6-0004IO-CC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:27:43 +0000 Received: by gxk2 with SMTP id 2so6433693gxk.4 for ; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:28:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3Lpw6QVo/dN5nwg6mvvqQtH+6qG1FTDf3orWrWpSxYM=; b=gntrgPu2OI7m/bCsgPxMN3i7tyRhFmz37WEQCdJdHeRf4EG1PsZ/L9cLJnx7ieX3Lv Kw28NBC24bJMKOafl9f+LkjCtB1SM1KEhwt9aVNGuzWY4sIHm7FFWvvfmPGcAA6JLtle pI06G/+WvR9EtyB37UODBdIHnU0hu9duw7kHE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=j1iqqzD+Fa9D9a/NcfoYLhYfUnF75/gdKoNzQod1k5wd70q4oyI6R1zLfbXDtvkuX8 gx1M+C4Fp6jrPmiYuBkikF3cYqX8NTQ5JlvQ2ZixaVMoXGr9MVgE/Xvuodq8rzwC5nKT loE0lpfby8yjhGKhC29COL+s+lyrzBJsheYJI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.77.41 with SMTP id z41mr3321736yba.126.1257359334704; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:28:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091104174833.EDE6F57CB8@mail.ebirds.it> References: <57a24ca70911040825i8280573r7c52559a04b70d6c@mail.gmail.com> <4AF1BA0A.8020207@usa.net> <20091104174833.EDE6F57CB8@mail.ebirds.it> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:28:54 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70911041028m1440fe77r5a3f814561d06ca6@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: "Poisson, Shannon, and the Radio Amateur" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m265.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Alberto, Marco, It appears that there is still a copyright in effect. Publicly downloadable may not be wise. I will contact you directly off the list. --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Marco IK1ODO -2 wrot= e: > Others would enjoy too :-) - very curious, indeed. > > 73 - Marco IK1ODO > > At 18:42 04-11-09, Alberto di Bene wrote: >> >> Warren Ziegler wrote: >> >>> Andy, >>> =A0 I can get a copy from the M.I.T. library but it may be a few days >>> before I get over there... >> >> Would it be asking too much for a publicly downloadable copy ? >> >> TNX. >> >> 73 =A0Alberto =A0I2PHD > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME083-9a34b06f42c284; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:55:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME027-9a34b06f42c284; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:55:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBZYW-00017L-Ph for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:54:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBZYW-00017C-DK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:54:08 +0000 Received: from out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.237]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBZYV-0002Nc-Rm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:54:08 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAB6DBktZ8Ex6/2dsb2JhbACERcABkE+BMII4VAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,260,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="110918971" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([89.240.76.122]) by out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 20 Nov 2009 19:54:01 +0000 Message-ID: <007f01ca6a1b$34a0b8d0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <20091120141648.8WGQY.1557635.root@mp17> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:54:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: WD2XES WSPR 136.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Recently there has been an upsurge in wspr BEACON appliance operators and your suggested frequency area is not the place for them. The bottom end would keep Beacon acty out of the way. There would still be room for the odd EU qrs operator, can't say I have heard many in recent years. The freq area 137 - 138 k/cs is frequently occupied by Russian and other EU dxers for inter Country working using CW and QRS and 136.5 - 137 for local CW working. NA stns wishing to work EU would still use 137 - 138 on CW and QRS and not be clobbered by wspr carriers going ON/OFF. I hope you see the logic G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:16 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: WD2XES WSPR 136.0 > Thanks for the suggestion, but I doubt it will cause you any more interference than it has for the last 5 years. From our perspective, the lower end of the band has long been reserved for EU to NA operation. > > John, W1TAG > > ---- mal hamilton wrote: > > om I woud suggest you Beacon at the extreme bottom end of the band and not > > in the middle of the CW and QRS DX portion. > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (rly-dd10.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.157]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD052-b9f4b085f76af; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:45:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD101-b9f4b085f76af; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:45:28 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBxku-0002zz-I1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:44:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBxku-0002zo-3X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:44:32 +0000 Received: from mailout1.go2.pl ([193.17.41.11]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBxks-00038q-7Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:44:32 +0000 Received: from mailout1.go2.pl (unknown [10.0.0.103]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554975D5145 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:44:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from o2.pl (unknown [10.0.0.38]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:44:29 +0100 (CET) From: bxi@go2.pl To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <39accf6e.491c4506.4b085f3c.33726@go2.pl Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:44:28 +0100 X-Originator: 89.76.56.60 X-Spam-Score: 2.3 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,INVALID_MSGID=1.71,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,SUBJECT_EXCESS_QP=0 Subject: LF: =?UTF-8?Q?SP2KDS_137kHz?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=INVALID_MSGID,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear LF, SP2KDS calling CQ now... 137,695kHz QRSS 3 73! 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<200911211246360102.1A12FB2A@smtp2.numeo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: Building a Softrock Lite RX with the M0BMU mods for 136 kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2119772809-1258805406=:67675" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m285.1 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-2119772809-1258805406=:67675 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I will mail you directly later=A0John howver if you get an offer in the me= antime please let me know via this medium. =A0 I am in the middle of refurbing a Mitsubishi DOHC 1800 enging right now=A0= against the clock so have no time.=A0The hands and arms are in condition= for fiddley work right now anyway...=A0hi. But in a week or so I will hav= e time. =A0 Gl es 73 petefmt=A0 --- On Sat, 21/11/09, John RABSON wrote: From: John RABSON Subject: LF: Building a Softrock Lite RX with the M0BMU mods for 136 kHz To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Saturday, 21 November, 2009, 11:46 Friends, Five or six years ago, I built the various circuits in the SPRAT introduct= ory SMD kit and they all worked.=A0 I now wish to assemble a Softrock Lite= RX for 136 kHz. In the mean time my eyesight has unfortunately deteriorated and, even with= a very good magnifier and a sub-millimetre soldering bit, things are just= too fiddly for me to cope with.=A0 Is there anybody who could help, pleas= e?=A0 The kit and the additional components necessary are at present at an= address in the UK. 73 John F5VLF/G3PAI =20 --0-2119772809-1258805406=:67675 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I will mail you directly later Jo= hn howver if you get an offer in the meantime please let me know via this= medium.
 
I am in the middle of refurbing a Mitsubishi DOHC 1800 enging right= now against the clock so have no time. The hands and arms are= in condition for fiddley work right now anyway... hi. But in a week= or so I will have time.
 
Gl es 73 petefmt 

--- On Sat, 21/11/09, John RABSON <john.rabson@numeo.fr> wrote:

From: John RABSON <john.rabson@numeo.fr>=
Subject: LF: Building a Softrock Lite RX with the M0BMU mods for 136= kHz
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Saturday, 21 November,= 2009, 11:46

Friends,

Five or six years ago, I built the= various circuits in the SPRAT introductory SMD kit and they all worked.&n= bsp; I now wish to assemble a Softrock Lite RX for 136 kHz.

In the= mean time my eyesight has unfortunately deteriorated and, even with a ver= y good magnifier and a sub-millimetre soldering bit, things are just too= fiddly for me to cope with.  Is there anybody who could help, please= ?  The kit and the additional components necessary are at present at= an address in the UK.

73
John F5VLF/G3PAI



=

=20 --0-2119772809-1258805406=:67675-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (rly-dc10.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.39]) by air-dc04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC042-b4c4b082b31150; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:02:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC108-b4c4b082b31150; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:02:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBuGu-0007sk-Cf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:01:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBuGt-0007sb-ON for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:01:19 +0000 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net ([165.212.64.31]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBuGr-00015o-QL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:01:19 +0000 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net (cmsout01-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout01.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90A692AC4A0 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:01:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps02.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.138] by cmsout01.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.58V) with ESMTP id XID010NkusBJ0144X01; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:01:09 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.138 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps02.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID010NkusBJ0144X01 Received: from [192.168.1.4] [151.47.208.114] by cmsapps02.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.53P) with ESMTPA id 171NkusBH1872M38; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:01:07 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.208.114 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.1.4] Message-ID: <4B082AE0.80607@usa.net> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:01:04 +0100 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4B07ABA4.4060102@online.fr> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Z-USANET-MsgId: XID171NkusBi1872X38 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) > Of course it=E2=80=99s a new and exciting technology, but I doubt that= it is on one >> and the same level with a regular exchange and therefore should not be >> considered equally verifying a valid contact. Shades of the recurring and silly debates that every now and then happen= on the Moon-net reflector... 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc11.mx.aol.com (rly-mc11.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.95]) by air-mc07.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMC073-da74b10fd994e; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 05:38:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC117-da74b10fd994e; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 05:38:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEKfa-0003Jm-Pw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 10:36:50 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEKfa-0003Jd-5Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 10:36:50 +0000 Received: from lnx503.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de ([130.83.156.232]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEKfY-0006K2-8o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 10:36:50 +0000 Received: from FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.212.129]) by lnx503.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.14.2/8.14.2/HRZ/PMX) with SMTP id nASAal6S025081 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:36:47 +0100 (envelope-from schaefer@hst.tu-darmstadt.de) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de) by FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de with AVK MailGateway; for ; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:36:44 +0100 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:36:43 +0100 Message-ID: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AA67@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> In-Reply-To: <000601ca6fb9$39a77870$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: LF: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz Thread-Index: AcpvuqMo4goQE/nDSnWPCY2AEftMFQAWfpVg From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= To: X-AVK-Virus-Check: AVB 19.592;28.11.2009 X-PMX-TU: seen v0.99a by 5.5.8.383112, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2009.11.28.102718 X-PMX-SPAMCHECK: outgoing mail X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: LF: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear Lowfers,=20 This is my first mail to the reflector and so i want to say hello to all= :-) It=B4s nice to be able to participate now here although my activity= will stay on the band mostly ;-) If there will be no weather problems this evening I will agn be qrv on 137= in CW (abt 136,8) and/or QRSS3.=20 Since abt 3 weeks I am qrv again. Since I live in a city I have no possibi= lities to be on LF, even not in RXing (QRM)... Therefore and cause I like= to be in the nature I am now qrv in /p. I use a kite antenna, 100m up (!)= . This should have a radiation resistance of 0,83 Ohms. My overall resista= nce is abt 30...55 Ohms, depending on the ground a achieve. So you can ima= gine abt the ERP. I have a 1KW class E PA that I use with limited power.= But The ERP easily reaches the 1W ERP limit, as one can imagine.. My RX is still poor but I am working on a receiving loop. Now, I use the= TX ant for receiving that causes some problems ;-) It would be nice to get some QSOs or even RX-RPRTs tonight. Until now I go= t 2 QSOs in each activity ;-) Best regards,=20 Stefan / DK7FC From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc05.mx.aol.com (rly-mc05.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.89]) by air-mc08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC081-d764b04a7af215; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:04:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC056-d764b04a7af215; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:04:33 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAwMf-00067y-O5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:03:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAwMf-00067p-1F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:03:17 +0000 Received: from mail-yx0-f203.google.com ([209.85.210.203]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAwMe-0003uz-AF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:03:17 +0000 Received: by yxe41 with SMTP id 41so3802780yxe.30 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:03:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=IAQN83NTqn3c4XLz3v4glcTYejjWkZxenDFFPmnmovc=; b=r2c+28UzlmQ8YOfsy1lV2v+YYng3/zZdUXGz7S1iqBuVbjwDgYLHyCdvB8+E+cpdCN BhZhgj5zT3i+qya3Oyr9/xj+b0lt2ba56Jf/zBEyOFGbnWA5GeGFkF+voS5QrZfZl+/K nslL4MzvztetfQT3gUrJoN8tzinq67JlMdn5M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aI9NavpO7DMPxQrWgLcdPU/6i4UC6uMInhZ/EOs5P/bUL9bPcjfa99Q1SfCJ9W/4bp 2a9BfnBjUhZqtUJrwMOXhRQ3bxbGiqS6VwabzO4idlc6YDumoXXdC/LO8ypZ9+/XZRa9 bUoHAbjbRGZuN8X9gfbxmKqz9i8QQlQJYrfkg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.236.18 with SMTP id j18mr3688270ybh.110.1258596189271; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:03:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B0472EC.9020806@online.fr> References: <4B0472EC.9020806@online.fr> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:03:09 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70911181803hf36c50eo18b2337c5e7fb45b@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: LF T/A [137kHz] WD2XGJ last night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m224.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Jean-Pierre, Thank you for the report and the '"grabber" ! I have been taking advantage of the good conditions to do some listening! --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 5:19 PM, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" wrote: > Hi Warren , > > Very good copy of your beacon last night . > > 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (rly-mf10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.180]) by air-mf01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF013-9864aff0785369; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 14:39:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF104-9864aff0785369; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 14:39:51 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9OS6-0000QC-Ea for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:38:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9OS6-0000Q3-36 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:38:30 +0000 Received: from 113-mo2-8.acn.waw.pl ([62.121.95.113] helo=paranoid.lipkowski.org) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9OS4-0007VW-Lf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:38:30 +0000 Received: from paranoid.lipkowski.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id nAEJcxPj004583 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:38:59 +0100 Received: from localhost (sq5bpf@localhost) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.6/Submit) with ESMTP id nAEJcxf1004580 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:38:59 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: paranoid.lipkowski.org: sq5bpf owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:38:59 +0100 (CET) From: Jacek Lipkowski To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score-sq5bpf: -2.601 () BAYES_00,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 137kHz grabber in SP Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I've set up a temporary 137kHz grabber. QTH is Warsaw, Poland KO02md. RX is an ex-DDR EKV03 with a mini-whip active antenna. Currently it is set for QRSS3. It is in a nice mid-point between active grabbers in DL and RU. The url is http://acid.ch.pw.edu.pl/~sq5bpf/grabber/ This area has high qrm, so if you see yourself on the grabber - congratulations :) I will leave it on all night in case anyone is interested, later it will be avaliable upon request. VY 73 Jacek / SQ5BPF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me07.mx.aol.com (rly-me07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.41]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME031-9c84b02d7b026f; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:04:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME074-9c84b02d7b026f; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:04:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NART9-0004LJ-J0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:03:55 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NART9-0004LA-4l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:03:55 +0000 Received: from smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com ([195.200.78.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NART7-0001jz-6J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:03:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 21284 invoked by uid 507); 17 Nov 2009 18:03:34 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO JR) (john.rabson@numeo.fr@217.67.155.178) by smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com with SMTP; 17 Nov 2009 18:03:34 +0100 Message-ID: <200911171803440957.069BC979@smtp2.numeo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:03:44 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Test Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 de F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD041-9064b09934711f; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:38:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD056-9064b09934711f; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:38:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCIFh-0005HS-Jf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:37:41 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCIFh-0005HJ-20 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:37:41 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCIFe-0005hO-V0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:37:41 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3518.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 686C91C00081 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:37:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3518.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5918F1C00085 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:37:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.80.30]) by mwinf3518.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id F2C001C00081 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:37:30 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091122193730994.F2C001C00081@mwinf3518.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <70CECE026BFC4433919E1E9E70CD6E5A@AGB> From: "Graham" To: Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:37:29 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: WSPR 2 running on problem sound card 502.4 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0070_01CA6BAB.3A76E310" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0070_01CA6BAB.3A76E310 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Running wspr 2 using the m-delat-4 sound card that produced vario= us odd reports , good signal no decode etc .. first tx looks to= be working , G4WGT at +11 dB =20 so far so good .. looks like the wspr 2 sample rate saga is ov= er ? G .. NB : I thought you only got a 'OOO' with typhoo ? (uk tv add) ------=_NextPart_000_0070_01CA6BAB.3A76E310 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Running  wspr 2  using the&= nbsp;=20 m-delat-4 sound  card that  produced various  odd = reports ,=20 good  signal no decode  etc  .. first  tx looks to=  =20 be  working , G4WGT at +11 dB 
so  far  so  good ..= looks like=20 the  wspr  2  sample  rate  saga is over ?
 
G ..
 
 
NB : I thought =20 you  only  got  a 'OOO' with  typhoo ? (uk tv=20 add)


------=_NextPart_000_0070_01CA6BAB.3A76E310-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db01.mx.aol.com (rly-db01.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.76]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB052-aa64b04786136d; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:42:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB014-aa64b04786136d; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:42:43 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAtDI-0005OI-Mp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:41:24 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAtDI-0005O9-3j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:41:24 +0000 Received: from imr-ma02.mx.aol.com ([64.12.206.40]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAtDF-0005n8-OP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:41:24 +0000 Received: from imo-da02.mx.aol.com (imo-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.200]) by imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nAIMfAFR012875 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:41:10 -0500 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-da02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id l.c02.6c2b72e8 (48576) for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:41:07 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:42:57 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: F4DTL@aol.com X-Spam-Score: 1.7 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: G3YXM / F4DTL Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1258584177" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1258584177 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Many thanx Dave for this new contact with you. See you later dear. F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP _http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/) -------------------------------1258584177 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Many thanx Dave for this new contact with you.
See you later dear.
 
 
 -------------------------------1258584177-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME083-9cd4b01781743; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:05:18 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME081-9cd4b01781743; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:04:51 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA3y2-0006I7-NU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:58:14 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA3y2-0006Hy-5l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:58:14 +0000 Received: from smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.16]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA3xz-0000AL-Px for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:58:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 71066 invoked from network); 16 Nov 2009 15:58:06 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=gM6Z4lpWAe6b0NZtR9LsbATq+EJJN38i5vqBhjQJUPCQXM28TB4kwWl02L+N9JCs5E4Ak2YABX4sCJ8LPlUDMHNs+VS7KGXyatvDnFMgyJTG63xBOILSjddDSD0tsFyKmWF7QErz6McaijV23JWJYyxk1ifGsYPYXW1CT9SYny8= ; Received: from unknown (HELO DennisPC) (dennis.easterling@86.134.101.135 with login) by smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Nov 2009 15:58:06 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: H_MJu2qswBDkdHeCAZfwexko6VNOiMP5URzYEvz3WrE5v1grQm6fnvJecjM9 X-YMail-OSG: PbsI9NUVM1kT7_c26OAeUrFWLW7AN6tA7gIoba7qUYpDnFde5dY3f1yPz0GPhSoQZ9uMOf54xFdIaWahpk8n_ku9JUSnSzsc7xt7Si5BizMYGDgkIEUHUsRzAVvL5zGgFZs3OPlv8qEt9_xxj2Ab4tGo5fTbpiIw3fDPSu9N9r4SCy068hO.dIlME7JEnfAZcftKgmpRILJiR7KdQzwIOUlZO5xlwgtKzkSpnRQEHrSTjzItLFzvFCeT91ff6jzHQj2WbQhIZ.BNFBeLWCPtTw8KJwmohi3HOQEWSA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <0027618A6DF64CA688334D0D26D77E8F@DennisPC> From: "DENNIS EASTERLING" To: References: <9afca2640911150318w25d40bb9w7c407d9d71e9097d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9afca2640911150318w25d40bb9w7c407d9d71e9097d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:58:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz CW - calling CQ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0131_01CA66D5.946562A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0131_01CA66D5.946562A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Roger Sorry I did not hear you, I will have to try harder next time as you= are relatively close to me and your qth favours my antenna orientatio= n. I did hear Peter G3LDO in opposite direction and tried a QSO but he fa= ded on me shortly afterwards. Meanwhile, I am striving to improve my RX set up and aim to do better= in future. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Roger Lapthorn=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 11:18 AM Subject: LF: 500kHz CW - calling CQ If anyone's about, I am trying to use a new fangled digital mode (it= 's called CW) on 500kHz. Calling CQ around 501.7 and looking for any= calls. Have heard M0JXM calling CQ but he did not hear me. 73s Roger G3XBM --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 ------=_NextPart_000_0131_01CA66D5.946562A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Roger
 
Sorry I did not hear you, I will have= to try harder=20 next time as you are relatively close to me and your qth favours my an= tenna=20 orientation.
 
I did hear Peter G3LDO in opposite di= rection and=20 tried a QSO but he faded on me shortly afterwards.
 
Meanwhile, I am striving to improve= my RX set up=20 and aim to do better in future.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 20= 09 11:18=20 AM
Subject: LF: 500kHz CW - call= ing CQ

If anyone's about, I am trying to use a new fangled= digital=20 mode (it's called CW) on 500kHz. Calling CQ around 501.7 and looking= for any=20 calls.

Have heard M0JXM calling CQ but he did not hear=20 me.

73s
Roger G3XBM

--=20
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http://www.g3xb= m.co.uk
G3XBM  =20  GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088
------=_NextPart_000_0131_01CA66D5.946562A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db01.mx.aol.com (rly-db01.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.76]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDB092-aa54b12c7bd7f; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:13:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB013-aa54b12c7bd7f; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:13:03 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEpBI-0003N8-PB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:11:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEpBI-0003Mz-81 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:11:36 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEpBG-0004EH-Uh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:11:36 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so2193480bwz.4 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:11:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4y0EliyIMQldqsAbq81RF9b9MciOCzHiZTeeRhlk+tg=; b=xqwvzIR7/LerMjF3JjIMgyfRIV46FvYr8Up5mwHfDfeNMTy+zblBTWS9VCuseSvmwu imFiGAXy7wmCm9i20wrKsPaTTr9Kfvhar/d+DkF7+04BIinx0IcXsG0a1HKb5kpypZVa selipqREMy9tIgfXKxGVde3ZZ1yycQxJ+UohA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=tRLQV5sh+rklcC5sMdSpxBccR/J/e4IVnZv9j4gc17HSKXqNjZCuD77ULQTbvgbRqQ TpoJyiv7MDQRQ71FsbQSOz01UxA4g3uQ+fZJEIWjZ0PKcnEWmFwvTlS91b19u0Ta8Kgc JsF1nQ4XoNfRy6+MBOuP6l0jfiOAbC54u5+c8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.8.155 with SMTP id h27mr3663328bkh.55.1259521888449; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:11:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <843259.12319.qm@web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <010c01ca7116$59615290$0317aac0@desktop> <843259.12319.qm@web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:11:28 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911291111v14a515dfy706294277775b7fa@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126,UPPERCASE_50_75=0.591 Subject: Re: LF: RTTY test transmission on 501.5 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd1fadabf74ce0479874ae2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,UPPERCASE_50_75 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m214.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0cd1fadabf74ce0479874ae2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable G3XIZ is a good signal calling G0NBD on 501.6kHz RTTY. Not yet heard M0FMT= . 73s Roger G3XBM 2009/11/29 M0FMT > Jim FYI > > G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEACO > <091129 18:35:55 Start Logging> > N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C > OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS > G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEACO > N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C > OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS > G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEACO > N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C > OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS > G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEACO > N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C > OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS > AIG7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEAC= O > N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C > OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS > G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEACO > N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C > OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS > G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEACO > N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C > OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS > G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM RTTY BEACO > N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C > OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS > > 73 petefmt > > --- On *Sun, 29/11/09, James Cowburn * wrote: > > > From: James Cowburn > Subject: LF: RTTY test transmission on 501.5 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 17:06 > > > Dear LF > > > > I am running a test RTTY transmission on 501.5 (I hope!!) It transmits= for > abt 1 min every 10 mins. > > > > I=92d be grateful for any reports. I will shut it down at 20.00z or bef= ore > if necessary > > > > 73s > > > > Jim G7NKS > > > --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --000e0cd1fadabf74ce0479874ae2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable G3XIZ is a good signal calling G0NBD on 501.6kHz RTTY. Not yet heard M0FMT= .

73s
Roger G3XBM


2009/11/= 29 M0FMT <m0fmt@= yahoo.co.uk>
Jim FYI
=A0
G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM=A0 RTTY= BEACO
<091129 18:35:55 Start Logging>
N RTTY BEACON TXING EAC= H 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C
OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE G7NKS
G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM=A0 RTTY BEACO<= br>N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.= C
OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET= DE G7NKS
G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM=A0 RTTY BEACO<= br>N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.= C
OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET= DE G7NKS
G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM=A0 RTTY BEACO<= br>N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.= C
OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET= DE G7NKS
AIG7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM=A0 RTTY BEAC= O
N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C
OWBURN?VIRGIN.= NET DE G7NKS
G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP= OP JIM=A0 RTTY BEACO
N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIR= M RECEPTION VIA JAMES.C
OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE= G7NKS
G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM=A0= RTTY BEACO
N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTIO= N VIA JAMES.C
OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE= G7NKS
G7NKS G7NKS THIS IS G7NKS AT IO92UB IO92UB 200MW ERP OP JIM=A0= RTTY BEACO
N RTTY BEACON TXING EACH 10 MINUTES PLEASE CONFIRM RECEPTIO= N VIA JAMES.C
OWBURN?VIRGIN.NET DE= G7NKS
=A0
73 petefmt

--- On Sun, 29/11/09, James Cowburn <james.cowburn@vir= gin.net> wrote:

From: James Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.net>=
Subject: LF: RTTY test transmission on 501.5
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 17:06


Dear LF

=A0

I am running a test RTTY transmission on= 501.5 (I hope!!) =A0It transmits for abt 1 min every 10 mins.

=A0

I=92d be grateful for any reports.= =A0I will shut it down at 20.00z or before if necessary

=A0

73s

=A0

Jim G7NKS





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http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088
--000e0cd1fadabf74ce0479874ae2-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA063-8c14afc915f1e6; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:51:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA083-8c14afc915f1e6; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:51:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8iUZ-0008PX-JN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:50:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8iUY-0008PO-UM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:50:14 +0000 Received: from smtp6.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.192]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8iUX-0001bM-Ue for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:50:14 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3623.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 988987000081 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:50:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3623.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 892D97000085 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:50:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.8.173]) by mwinf3623.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 0DF3F7000081 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:50:07 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091112225008572.0DF3F7000081@mwinf3623.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <563642.98089.qm@web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:49:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0127_01CA63EA.7511AC30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0127_01CA63EA.7511AC30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We are just as confused this side as well as to who can who cannot= and who did (not) hihi =20 G ..=20 From: Jordan=20 Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 10:06 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature st= ations ?? I'm still trying to figure out why my request for the Experimental Per= mit was denied... If I recall, I was told there wasn't anything new to= be learned at that frequency, and that my region (VE6) wasn't particu= larly interesting.=20 I wonder who gets to decide who gets to operate...? I know it's not RA= C, although they do provide the paperwork. 73...Jordan VE6ZT ----- Original Message -----=20 From: M0FMT=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 2:55 PM Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amat= ure stations ?? Just more boring old Beacon stations claging up MF.....look on= RAC web site... http://www.rac.ca/ ........ 2008-11-10 Canadian Amateurs on 600 Metres Industry Canada has accepted= an RAC proposal whereby selected Canadian radio amateurs would be per= mitted to operate in the vicinity of 500 kHz. These amateur operations= would support Canada's efforts to action a proposal on the agenda of= the 2011 World Radio Conference (WRC2011) which, if adopted, would cr= eate an amateur allocation in the 600-meter band. Industry Canada have= authorized RAC to recommend amateurs who would be licensed to operate= in the 504 to 509 kHz band with a maximum power of 20 watts ERP and= bandwidth up to 1 kHz. Stations operating in this band would be techn= ically operating under Special Developmental Licenses although they wo= uld all be radio amateurs. Distinct call signs would be used and the= licenses would be renewable annually subject to the amateur demonstra= ting the research he has carried out. More information will follow sho= rtly in the pages of TCA or via subsequent bulletins. Bryan Rawlings= VE3QN/VE2QNN Radio Amateurs of/du Canada, Inc.=20 73 petefmt --- On Thu, 12/11/09, Graham wrote: From: Graham Subject: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other= amature stations ?? To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 21:43 Can anyone clarify the situation as to who can work who=20 is this the same as the USA ?=20 Tnx - G .. =20 From the IARU web site=20 As of 30 October 2009 Canada issued two licences in the Deve= lopmental Service in the range 504-509 kHz. a.. VE1ZZ has been assigned VX9PSO and is reported on 504.= 6 kHz=20 b.. VO1NA has been assigned VX9MRC and is reported on 507.= 77 and 508.5 kHz Two more stations, VE3OHH and VE7BDQ, are expected to become= active soon.=20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0127_01CA63EA.7511AC30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
We are  just as confused this si= de as well as=20 to  who can who cannot and who did (not)  hihi  =
 
G ..

From: Jordan
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 10:06 PM
Subject: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with othe= r amature=20 stations ??

I'm still trying to figure out why my request= for the=20 Experimental Permit was denied... If I recall, I was told there wasn't= anything=20 new to be learned at that frequency, and that my region (VE6) wasn't= =20 particularly interesting.
I wonder who gets to decide who gets to operat= e...? I know=20 it's not RAC, although they do provide the paperwork.
 73...Jordan VE6ZT
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 M0FMT=
Sent: Thursday, November 12,= 2009 2:55=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Are the new= VE stations=20 able to qso with other amature stations ??

Just more boring old Beacon stations claging up MF.....lo= ok on RAC=20 web site... http://= www.rac.ca/  ........
 

2008-11-10

Canadian Amateurs on 600 Metres Industry Canada has accep= ted an RAC=20 proposal whereby selected Canadian radio amateurs would be per= mitted to=20 operate in the vicinity of 500 kHz. These amateur operations= would=20 support Canada's efforts to action a proposal on the agenda of= the 2011=20 World Radio Conference (WRC2011) which, if adopted, would crea= te an=20 amateur allocation in the 600-meter band. Industry Canada have= =20 authorized RAC to recommend amateurs who would be licensed to= operate in=20 the 504 to 509 kHz band with a maximum power of 20 watts ERP= and=20 bandwidth up to 1 kHz. Stations operating in this band would= be=20 technically operating under Special Developmental Licenses alt= hough they=20 would all be radio amateurs. Distinct call signs would be used= and the=20 licenses would be renewable annually subject to the amateur=20 demonstrating the research he has carried out. More informatio= n will=20 follow shortly in the pages of TCA or via subsequent bulletins= . Bryan=20 Rawlings VE3QN/VE2QNN Radio Amateurs of/du Canada, Inc.
 
 
73 petefmt

--- On Thu, 12/11/09, Graham=20 <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

From:=20 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Subject: LF: Are= the new VE=20 stations able to qso with other amature stations ??
To:= =20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Thursday, 12 November,= 2009,=20 21:43

Can anyone clarify the  situat= ion as=20 to  who can work who
is this the  same as the = USA=20 ? 
 
Tnx - G ..   
From the  IARU = web site=20
As of 30 October 2009 Canada issued two licences in the= =20 Developmental Service in the range 504-509 kHz.
  • VE1ZZ has been assigned VX9PSO and is reported on 504.= 6 kHz=20
  • VO1NA has been assigned VX9MRC and is reported on 507.= 77 and=20 508.5 kHz
Two more stations, VE3OHH and VE7BDQ, are expected= to become=20 active soon.=20





------=_NextPart_000_0127_01CA63EA.7511AC30-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df07.mx.aol.com (rly-df07.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.20]) by air-df04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF044-5674afde27718b; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:49:48 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF078-5674afde27718b; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:49:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N94wP-0006Di-Om for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:48:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N94wP-0006DZ-D6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:48:29 +0000 Received: from out1.ip05ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.241]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N94wO-0001aM-Ql for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:48:29 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtYEACtx/UpOkJnB/2dsb2JhbACCJCyBaolaBsgXhDwE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,739,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="83571488" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.153.193]) by out1.ip05ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 13 Nov 2009 22:48:22 +0000 Message-ID: <022201ca64b3$6a90d280$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:48:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: VX9MRC Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_021F_01CA64B3.6A3AEA50" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_021F_01CA64B3.6A3AEA50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable VX9MRC active CW beacon mode 569 at 2240 utc 13-11-09 507.5 K/cs. Slow= fades (qsb) Good signal for a QSO but vy close to a SM stn using SSB. I wonder if= he could hear me. de G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_021F_01CA64B3.6A3AEA50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
VX9MRC active CW beacon mode 569 at= 2240 utc=20 13-11-09 507.5 K/cs. Slow fades (qsb)
 
Good signal for a QSO but vy close to= a SM stn=20 using SSB. I wonder if he could hear me.
 
 
de G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_021F_01CA64B3.6A3AEA50-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me05.mx.aol.com (rly-me05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.39]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME054-9b64affe3bb107; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:19:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME052-9b64affe3bb107; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:19:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9d7l-0005ww-Pf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:18:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9d7l-0005wn-DE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:18:29 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9d7k-0000Ux-BG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:18:29 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so4868842bwz.4 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:18:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=MhLYyekY5lS55s2VAAIfp1A3wiRrh+wOcWYbwCJ9dWs=; b=UcVD5q7olvv6M5/N3rHAii1A1KuB6a/bNVsYzt4RWbezTRBfctZLQk3KFYwzya9lJy fUDGN8IxtbVnmonj0sJTFet2EOf6ly9f9C/HdbUddMHq7B/whNfo3jWCUSYwqQTUN7Up K+uOn7YUSk6MCUy0+KeroKe5ViVjtoRak6Fh4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=nW85d90KLz/LJSFEnGus9WcEtIwdLbO4nyFchsts1gkgmwxC5j4qNGgce2p0hwUkKS w8zpIQ7saGMSS8ceT3z9vyBnsHpDh+60tb3Ec9RRfNlrlynnHIgwqm3RRD9fgQLoSVMh AzQtnNK+R7HcR22i1CfpnEp5VfBiDX4Jljr58= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.6.24 with SMTP id 24mr4006869bkx.25.1258283901711; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:18:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:18:21 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911150318w25d40bb9w7c407d9d71e9097d@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500kHz CW - calling CQ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c0e9afcf5290478670ca4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d289.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0015174c0e9afcf5290478670ca4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 If anyone's about, I am trying to use a new fangled digital mode (it's called CW) on 500kHz. Calling CQ around 501.7 and looking for any calls. Have heard M0JXM calling CQ but he did not hear me. 73s Roger G3XBM -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --0015174c0e9afcf5290478670ca4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If anyone's about, I am trying to use a new fangled digital mode (it&#= 39;s called CW) on 500kHz. Calling CQ around 501.7 and looking for any cal= ls.

Have heard M0JXM calling CQ but he did not hear me.

73s<= br> Roger G3XBM

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--0015174c0e9afcf5290478670ca4-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (rly-dd05.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.152]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD062-b784b06a37efb; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:11:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD052-b784b06a37efb; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:11:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBUBU-0006PU-N4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:10:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBUBU-0006PL-Ar for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:10:00 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s18.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.29]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBUBT-00082V-MM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:10:00 +0000 Received: from BLU146-DS2 ([65.55.116.7]) by blu0-omc1-s18.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:09:53 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [221.198.50.39] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: To: Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:09:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Nov 2009 14:09:53.0075 (UTC) FILETIME=[21524030:01CA69EB] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Conditions to Eastt Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01CA69EB.208E05D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_60_70, HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01CA69EB.208E05D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable DCF39 on 138.,83 and a bit up to S7 at 1400Z which is a good omen as= its still light on some of the path... Good luck Laurence BY3 A KL 1 X off to bed ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01CA69EB.208E05D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
DCF39 on 138.,83 and a bit up to S7 at 1400Z= which is a=20 good omen as its still light on some of the path...
 
Good luck
 
Laurence BY3 A KL 1 X off to=20 bed
------=_NextPart_000_0008_01CA69EB.208E05D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb07.mx.aol.com (rly-mb07.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.165]) by air-mb07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB073-d154af4a48fc5; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:34:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB071-d154af4a48fc5; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:34:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6XNV-0006w8-SA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:33:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6XNV-0006vz-Fy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:33:57 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6XMO-0000sQ-5M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:32:49 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so1734231bwz.4 for ; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:33:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=Dxtc/LBmQ7bUm22Yo0JWPtObTa2glPbjeahWaU0taBo=; b=q5Jl0Ug12FS5KpUHH4pH7Y7665AE5kOH12QHcSJg79Gv/rOWWDi+IDvD1v8kQzpxT9 mbRQESyHLclgTPrpxeFzj6G92c/2PWUbwrwS+ZT4uW7HJ6oQ7DPTHnF/PrLG2fJkj1fU dqSqjRF5IBmhAkqal8IrGkTXptEv/l+8iqQWk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=VJs5PWzyTe9C/8bazLp1C8juCS5Bt4DmF6L4NgdOhiBO/rEhlRbMMVDtuNqDmXr55h 16vD2lrKO3gHYxs2xo1h6ipUt0Mw0tiEq37VoEV/87uLM5C7sTBR0f80fajo73ziYe7Q c9kEHzJWiLCalE8U5U9a278u4DCidI0dQL5kE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.152.151 with SMTP id g23mr4727916bkw.148.1257546830360; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:33:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:33:50 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911061433l70bfd8ddi30af83033ea5bbec@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500kHz WSPR overnight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175d03621cb23e0477bb70d9 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d261.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0015175d03621cb23e0477bb70d9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Will leave the 500kHz 1mW ERP WSPR beacon running through the night at 10% TX and we'll see what happens. Any reports, especially from DL or SM would be great. 73s Roger G3XBM -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --0015175d03621cb23e0477bb70d9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Will leave the 500kHz 1mW ERP WSPR beacon running through the night at 10%= TX and we'll see what happens.

Any reports, especially from DL= or SM would be great.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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--0015175d03621cb23e0477bb70d9-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (rly-ma05.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.49]) by air-ma03.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMA032-8ac4b0b09a7186; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:16:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA056-8ac4b0b09a7186; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:16:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NChBi-0002l7-If for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:15:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NChBi-0002ky-42 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:15:14 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NChBh-0005hp-0a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:15:14 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EA5E4C80F8 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:15:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 012494C80F4 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:15:06 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B0B096A.7040507@online.fr> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:15:06 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <4B04EADA.4090707@telus.net> <57a24ca70911190525s5bbf2768gcfe5e7150eb8f784@mail.gmail.com> <20091121211012.fehyrbxl4400ckc8@webmail6.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20091121211012.fehyrbxl4400ckc8@webmail6.kuleuven.be> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: VX9MRC Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040505030606000701080906" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --------------040505030606000701080906 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Joe, This evening I listened to your beacon, it is too easy! =85. first blow it= is in limps! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj --------------040505030606000701080906 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="20091123225953.jpg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="20091123225953.jpg" 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2009 10:56:26 +0000 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.155]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N4Y4y-0003HS-GS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 10:54:37 +0000 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so655501fga.10 for ; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 02:56:11 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.130.35 with SMTP id 35mr399668hbh.31.1257072971528; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 02:56:11 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [78.86.215.152] In-Reply-To: <9afca2640910311126k1aa9fdf2maafb546bbf89d372@mail.gmail.com> References: <9afca2640910310528p4f07557aifdc0557a68bfeff8@mail.gmail.com> <004501ca5a35$30eff840$0900a8c0@lark> <9afca2640910311126k1aa9fdf2maafb546bbf89d372@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 10:56:11 +0000 Message-ID: From: PETER CLEALL To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500kHz attenuation graphs? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f6d900ecbc3804774d1b09 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001485f6d900ecbc3804774d1b09 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 below are my rather vague memories, I am sure I have it archived on CD somewhere, but will not have access for several weeks. The information may still be on the web but had a quick look and could not see it. Maybe contacting Geri direct will help. Geri DK8KW used to have some useful charts from the time when he was trying to justify an increase in power for the German allocation. The basic curve on the chart was the equivalent of the CCIR information.Then he had the strengths of numerous European signals regards peter G8AFN 2009/10/31 Roger Lapthorn > Thanks Alan. > > I have downloaded the GRNDWAV3 programme and am playing with it - looks > useful. > > Really looking for some *normalised curves* so I could do very quick > estimates of expected losses versus distance. I've seen these years ago in a > CCIR paperback and was hoping to find these on the net somewhere. > > Now back to 500kHz WSPRing.... > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > 2009/10/31 Alan Melia > > Hi Roger you will find that the late Reg Edwards programs GRNDWAV3 (I >> think) >> gives a very good idea of ground wave strengths. I do have an article here >> (somewhere) from Jack Belrose with I believe some skywave strength formula >> in it. (I am "between two PCs" at the moment :-)) and it is undoubtedly on >> the other one ) Generally at LF the skywave starts to equal or exceed the >> groundwave strength at ranges exceeding 700km. It may be a little less >> that >> that at 500k. It also depends a little on the receive-system senitivity to >> a >> given mode, which is why very low power stations sometimes experience a >> "quiet zone" at least to audible reception. >> >> Alan G3NYK >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Roger Lapthorn" >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 12:28 PM >> Subject: LF: 500kHz attenuation graphs? >> >> >> > Can someone please point me to any CCIR or similar graphs (preferably on >> the >> > internet) showing the attenuation with distance expected on groundwave >> and >> > skywave at 500kHz? >> > >> > 73s >> > Roger G3XBM >> > >> > -- >> > ------------------------------------------------------------- >> > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ >> > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk >> > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 >> > >> >> >> > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > --001485f6d900ecbc3804774d1b09 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
below are my rather vague memories, I am sure I have it archived on= CD somewhere, but will not have access for several weeks. The information= may still be on the web but =A0had a quick look and could not see it. May= be contacting Geri direct will help.


Geri DK8KW used to have some useful cha= rts from the time when he was trying to justify an increase in power for= the German allocation. The basic curve on the chart was the equivalent of= the CCIR information.Then he had the strengths of numerous European signa= ls

regards
peter G8AFN




2009/10/31= Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>
Thanks Alan.

I have downloaded th= e GRNDWAV3 programme and am playing with it - looks useful.

Really= looking for some normalised curves so I could do very quick estima= tes of expected losses versus distance. I've seen these years ago in= a CCIR paperback and was hoping to find these on the net somewhere.

Now back to 500kHz WSPRing....

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/10/31 Alan Melia <alan.melia@btinter= net.com>

Hi Roger you will fi= nd that the late Reg Edwards programs GRNDWAV3 (I think)
gives a very good idea of ground wave strengths. I do have an article here=
(somewhere) from Jack Belrose with I believe some skywave strength formula=
in it. (I am "between two PCs" at the moment :-)) and it is undo= ubtedly on
the other one ) Generally at LF the skywave starts to equal or exceed the<= br> groundwave strength at ranges exceeding 700km. It may be a little less tha= t
that at 500k. It also depends a little on the receive-system senitivity to= a
given mode, which is why very low power stations sometimes experience a "quiet zone" at least to audible reception.

Alan G3NYK





----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Lapthorn" <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>
To: <= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 12:28 PM
Subject: LF: 500kHz attenuation graphs?


> Can someone please point me to any CCIR or similar graphs (preferably= on
the
> internet) showing the attenuation with distance expected on groundwav= e and
> skywave at 500kHz?
>
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM
>
> --
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> http://g= 3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
> http://www.g3xbm= .co.uk
> G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088
>





--
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http://g= 3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.u= k
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088

--001485f6d900ecbc3804774d1b09-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (rly-ma07.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.51]) by air-ma10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA103-8be4b053dc22e2; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 07:44:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA078-8be4b053dc22e2; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 07:44:51 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NB6MD-00080c-Hs for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:43:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NB6MC-00080T-TA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:43:28 +0000 Received: from qmta11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.59.211]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NB6MA-00015I-LW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:43:28 +0000 Received: from OMTA19.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.98]) by QMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 70DW1d00627AodY5B0jLFw; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:43:20 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([76.23.233.102]) by OMTA19.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 70rB1d0022DDHkk3f0rBy2; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:51:12 +0000 Message-ID: <00b301ca6915$df7b7440$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <000501ca67ba$e4817db0$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <002e01ca682b$c42ac460$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 07:43:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 1.7 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 QRSS10 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 T/A enthusiasts Thanks to Rik, Andrey, Pat, Ralph (and others for trying) from the Tuesday night QRSS3 session. Very surprised to see the signal received in Russia! Tonight WE2XGR/2 will transmit in QRSS10 mode from ~ 2130 to ~ 2300Z and QRSS3 from ~2300 to ~ 0030Z on 506.5 kHz. The QRSS10 transmission (letters XGR) will take about 4-1/2 minutes which may be longer than the T/A QSB cycle to western EU. It will be interesting to see if QRSS10 might be too slow for T/A work. As usual, any and all reports are appreciated. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 3:33 AM Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 > Hello Jay, Rik, LF, > Captures at 00.32 and 01.42. > Rik, here frequency 506501. > > 73 > Andrey / KO85sv > > >> T/A enthusiasts >> >> WE2XGR/2 will beacon in QRSS3 mode tonight on 506.5 kHz from ~ 2130 to ~ >> 0030 Z. Reports appreciated. >> >> Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de12.mx.aol.com (rly-de12.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.148]) by air-de04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE043-5214aff4f2123f; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:45:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE128-5214aff4f2123f; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:45:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9TDw-0002ib-T3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:44:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9TDw-0002iS-Bz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:44:12 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9TDv-0000R1-Nd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:44:12 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3403.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4BB881C00081 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 01:44:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3403.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3A5D41C00082 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 01:44:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.89.43]) by mwinf3403.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id D06C11C00081 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 01:44:05 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091115004405853.D06C11C00081@mwinf3403.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <5D41AF65D31E4BB29A03005B751AF9BB@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:43:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: Re: LF: Who / where is OR2ELN ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0055_01CA658C.AFA78A60" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0055_01CA658C.AFA78A60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Only the one decode . so looks to be false , the data base is repo= rting my spot as proof of activity .. frequency is right ..as there= was only one spot .. G .=20 From: Graham=20 Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 11:52 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Who / where is OR2ELN ?? This is the list of tx stations as of 2350 14/11/09 MF 03 .. looks= to be a little wet ? G4JNT 0.503852=20 G0NBD 0.503900=20 G3XBM 0.503904=20 OR2ELN 0.503908=20 G4WGT 0.503914=20 W3HH 0.503916=20 =20 From: Graham=20 Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 11:48 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Who / where is OR2ELN ?? 2009-11-14 23:14 OR2ELN 0.503908 -33 0 MF03 501 = G0NBD IO83 11740 326 =20 Just decoded ? tnx - G=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0055_01CA658C.AFA78A60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Only the one  decode . so looks= to be =20 false , the  data  base is reporting my spot as  proof= of =20 activity .. frequency is right ..as  there was only  one spo= t=20 ..
 
G .

From: Graham
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 11:52 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Who / where is OR2ELN ??

This is the list of tx stations as of= 2350 =20 14/11/09    MF 03 .. looks to  be a little = wet=20 ?
 
<= /TR>
G4JNT 0.503852
G0NBD 0.503900
G3XBM 0.503904
OR2ELN 0.503908
G4WGT 0.503914
W3HH 0.503916
 
 
 

From: Graham
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 11:48 PM
Subject: LF: Who / where is OR2ELN ??

 2009-11-14 23:14   OR2ELN   0.503908   -33   0   MF03   501   G0NBD   IO83   11740   326 
 
Just  decoded ?
 
tnx - G
 






------=_NextPart_000_0055_01CA658C.AFA78A60-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (rly-mf04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.174]) by air-mf05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF051-9594af6d3da16; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:21:26 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF047-9594af6d3da16; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:21:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N78ch-0006a9-7G for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:20:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N78cg-0006a0-HN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:20:06 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N78ce-0004nO-DY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:20:05 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E49D7B804A for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:19:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 697C0F3863 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:19:53 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id 085EB18056; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:19:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from 12.168-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (12.168-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.240.168.12]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:19:52 +0100 Message-ID: <20091108151952.3tkxrc9ggk8s84o8@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:19:52 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <019f01ca6061$34a80040$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20091108120711.z1zbaakm0cw0cocg@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <01cd01ca6068$54f09a40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20091108141505.zsudabk1wg80k848@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <4AF6CA9E.70403@sighthound.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4AF6CA9E.70403@sighthound.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.240.168.12 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: daytime WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) John, amazing. -16dB with 200mW ERP would mean that only 10mW ERP would be needed to get a marginal copy. TX is down at 13:45 UTC due to other activities. I will try to WSPR again tonight. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting John P-G : > Rik, LF > > Just copied you at 13:36 on 2 different RX setups. > > The usual ALA1530 loop/IC-R75 shows in the WSPR database, at -30dB! > > My HF vertical fed via MF tuned pre-amp to an IC718 (not reported to > WSPRnet) showed at -16dB!! > > > That's 1102km.... > > > I'll leave the second system running for another hour or so, and > reporting to WSPRnet > > Cheers > John > GM4SLV > > > > Rik Strobbe wrote: >> My WSPR 0.2W ERP signal was copied by GM0LLJ (774km) at 12:58 UTC >> >> 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (rly-dc03.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.32]) by air-dc04.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDC042-b104b13aa8616e; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 06:20:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC034-b104b13aa8616e; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 06:20:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NF4Ht-00064X-Jk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:19:25 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NF4Ht-00064O-3a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:19:25 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NF4Hr-0000qb-2P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:19:25 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF42C51C003 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:19:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from PC_van_Rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-106.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.106]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACBC6F3862 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:19:15 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:19:27 +0100 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <002b01ca71ac$daa46180$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> References: <002b01ca71ac$daa46180$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091130111915.ACBC6F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RTTY 500 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_12721865==.ALT" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --=====================_12721865==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I could copy several RTTY and PS31 stations last night and decoded also some CW QRM ;-) 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T At 12:04 30/11/2009, you wrote: >Lots of RTTY QRM last nite on 500. I decoded several stns. >G3KEV > --=====================_12721865==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" I could copy several RTTY and PS31 stations last night and decoded also some CW QRM ;-)

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

At 12:04 30/11/2009, you wrote:
Lots of RTTY QRM last nite on 500. I decoded several stns.
G3KEV
 
--=====================_12721865==.ALT-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb07.mx.aol.com (rly-mb07.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.165]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB023-d184b007b70154; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:06:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB074-d184b007b70154; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:06:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9nEE-00025r-5I for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:05:50 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9nED-00025i-Ma for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:05:49 +0000 Received: from mout1.freenet.de ([195.4.92.91]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9nEB-0001nG-UM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:05:49 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.27] (helo=17.mx.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #92) id 1N9nEB-0008O9-3v; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:05:47 +0100 Received: from w042a.w.pppool.de ([89.58.4.42]:3533 helo=2a2d7ed321c6425) by 17.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #94) id 1N9nEA-0006Po-DA; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:05:47 +0100 From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" To: Cc: "'Peter Dodd'" References: <20091029094436.8EFF831E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <4AEA289D.504@ukonline.co.uk> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:05:44 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcpY8ez//aa+wbIsSs6DCm2V43cB5AMidemgADDy4oA= In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: MF: G3LDO in QRSS3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Peter, Your QRSS3-signal is again good readable[Beckmann, Gerhard] on MF in JN59LN! vy 73 de Gerhard // DK6NI ================================= From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df09.mx.aol.com (rly-df09.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.22]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF053-57b4b0d0026222; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 05:00:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF098-57b4b0d0026222; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 05:00:07 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDEeV-00027d-Uu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:59:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDEeV-00027U-JI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:59:11 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s5.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.16]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDEeU-0008Je-Jy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:59:11 +0000 Received: from BLU146-DS5 ([65.55.116.7]) by blu0-omc1-s5.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:59:03 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [221.198.50.198] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: To: Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:59:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Nov 2009 09:59:03.0228 (UTC) FILETIME=[EAFA97C0:01CA6DB5] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: XKO freq with attachment - Alaska Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0121_01CA6DB5.EA828190" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 ------=_NextPart_000_0121_01CA6DB5.EA828190 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0122_01CA6DB5.EA828190" ------=_NextPart_001_0122_01CA6DB5.EA828190 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ooops - obviously need a cup of coffee/beer/wine Laurence KL1X WE2XPQ Wasilla Alaska...in absentia in China. ------=_NextPart_001_0122_01CA6DB5.EA828190 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ooops - obviously need a cup of=20 coffee/beer/wine
 
 
Laurence KL1X  WE2XPQ Wasilla Alaska...= in absentia=20 in China.
 
 
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owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --part1_c0a.682da874.3820e418_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1257212439" -------------------------------1257212439 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Hello Wolf,very strong signal here.Good DX. See the capture. =20 =20 F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC7400 Ant: 10m tuned MF vertical antenna _http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/)=20 =20 =20 Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 02/11/2009 22:07:07 Paris, Madrid, df2py@t-online= .de=20 a =E9crit : Hi folks !=20 I improved the ground system of the DI2BJ beacon on 505,030 kHz. I used= a=20 pipe into a deep water well for extra ground, measured some serious=20 RF-current going into the wire connecting the water well. I hope this is= a good=20 sign ! Hope for more RX reports on the beacon, it will be active for a fe= w=20 hours after sundown and before sunrise. A reliable pattern will be=20 established after initial testing and experience with the transmitting ge= ar ! good MF=20 and LF - DX for everybody ! de wolf df2py / DI2BJ =20 =20 -------------------------------1257212439 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= FONT id=3Drole_document color=3D#000000 size=3D2 face=3DArial>
Hello Wolf,very strong signal here.Good DX.
See the capture.
 
F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP

RX : Icom IC7400
Ant: 10m tuned MF vertical=20 antenna

http://lfis= tes.erst.azerttyu.net/
 
 
Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 02/11/2009 22:07:07 Paris, Madrid, df2py@t-o= nline.de=20 a =E9crit :

Hi folks=20 !

I improved the ground=20 system of the DI2BJ beacon on 505,030 kHz. I used a pipe into a deep wat= er=20 well for extra ground, measured some serious RF-current going into the= wire=20 connecting the water well. I hope this is a good sign ! Hope for more RX= =20 reports on the beacon, it will be active for a few hours after sundown= and=20 before sunrise. A reliable pattern will be established after initial tes= ting=20 and experience with the transmitting gear ! good MF and LF  - DX fo= r=20 everybody !    de wolf  df2py /=20 DI2BJ

 
 
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<001e01ca683c$55b78f20$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:46:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: SIDEBANDS Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01CA683C.5580C7B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01CA683C.5580C7B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My IC 706 gives RF output on 500 kcs but the carrier distortion is bad= when viewed on a scope. I would not use it to avoid causing qrm to ot= hers on the band, or even worse transmitting spurii outside the permit= ted band.=20 mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01CA683C.5580C7B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My IC 706 gives RF output on 500 kcs= but the=20 carrier distortion is bad when viewed on a scope. I would not use it&n= bsp;to=20 avoid causing qrm to others on the band, or even worse transmitti= ng spurii=20 outside the permitted band.
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------=_NextPart_000_001B_01CA683C.5580C7B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB083-ad94af722863df; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:56:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB077-ad94af722863df; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:56:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7Drk-0000K9-5M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:56:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7Drj-0000K0-QU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:55:59 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7Dqm-0002Bd-Q8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:55:01 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.6] (opc1.twatt.home [192.168.1.6]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 631F23B535 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:55:57 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4AF7224D.4010707@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:55:57 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001b01ca6086$cd0966b0$0617aac0@jimdesk> <004101ca60ab$ef362e60$0900a8c0@lark> In-Reply-To: <004101ca60ab$ef362e60$0900a8c0@lark> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Losses due to ant in tree? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Alan Melia wrote: > May thumbnail approack says put a vertical at least > as far away from trees, <...> as it is high. Not aways easy! > Depends where you live :-) http://www.sighthound.demon.co.uk/pshed/DCP_2235.JPG John GM4SLV Treeless Shetland From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de07.mx.aol.com (rly-de07.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.143]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE021-4ee4af6e65062; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:40:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE077-4ee4af6e65062; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:40:01 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N79qw-0006w0-Ls for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:38:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N79qw-0006vr-5x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:38:54 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N79py-000142-GF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:37:55 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBFD051C009 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:38:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id B748FF3862 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:38:40 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id 58A0918056; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:38:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from 12.168-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (12.168-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.240.168.12]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:38:40 +0100 Message-ID: <20091108163840.lo5b6gea88oc448g@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:38:40 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <001b01ca6086$cd0966b0$0617aac0@jimdesk> In-Reply-To: <001b01ca6086$cd0966b0$0617aac0@jimdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.240.168.12 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Losses due to ant in tree? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Jim, my antenna is surrounded by numberous birch and oak trees. 4 of them =20 in fact act as antenna support. As a result I have a relately high antenna loss: 130-200 Ohm on 137kHz =20 and 45-70 Ohm on 500kHz (low values in winter, high values in summer). I try to keep a distance of at least 2m between any "hot" antenna wire =20 and the greenery. I would recommend not to go much closer to avoid =20 extra losses and certainly not touch branches (not even with isolated =20 wire) as with high voltages this could start a fire due to arcing. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting James Cowburn : > Hi All, > > The vertical 5m section of my inverted L runs up into the branches =20 > of a silver birch tree. The wire goes over a large bough at 5m or =20 > so and then comes out of the branches for some 22m down to a 4m high =20 > pole attached to the garage. > > Has anyone a guesstimation of the losses in signal caused by running =20 > the wire through the tree? > > Using vertload and tophat2 I calculate the antenna to be around =20 > 0.25% efficient but this assumes it is in free space. Can anyone =20 > suggest a figure for the additional loss due to tree heating! > > The vertical element is actually sloping at about 20 degree from the =20 > tree down to the loading coil. The length is nearer 6metres but =20 > the vertical height over ground at the bough is about 5m. > > (Santa may be bringing me a set of swaged poles with which to build =20 > mark 2, well away from the silver birch!) > > With best regards > > > Jim > > > Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db04.mx.aol.com (rly-db04.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.79]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB081-abb4b09b8161e7; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:16:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB041-abb4b09b8161e7; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:15:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCKhn-0005vj-Pf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:14:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCKhn-0005va-C3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:14:51 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s21.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCKhm-0006L4-2z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:14:51 +0000 Received: from BLU146-DS4 ([65.55.116.9]) by blu0-omc1-s21.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:14:43 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [117.12.235.160] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: To: Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:14:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Nov 2009 22:14:43.0466 (UTC) FILETIME=[315F26A0:01CA6BC1] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: UA0AET et al Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_056F_01CA6BC1.2FD5EE90" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 ------=_NextPart_000_056F_01CA6BC1.2FD5EE90 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0570_01CA6BC1.2FD5EE90" ------=_NextPart_001_0570_01CA6BC1.2FD5EE90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Early evening very strong DFCW from UA0AET I believe and the signals= was CW audible here weakly with a narrower CW filter. There is anothe= r QRSS type signal just HF which Im not sure of near 779. Any takers= ? The freqs shown are probably less then 0.1Hz low - Im using the SDR= IQ and it does wander a little as the apartment heating system comes= on off at will.... All times GMT. My local LF/HF listening pleasure environment has deter= iorated with the advent of winter heating systems being brought on lin= e and the return and reconnection of satellite TV dishes on the same= roof with an increase of unwanted QRM, plus the "rise" or more highri= se apartment blocks North of me within 100m - All satellite dish cabl= es were cut (mostly literally) by the local authority a year or so bac= k... Laurence KL1 X in BY3A OM89UA ------=_NextPart_001_0570_01CA6BC1.2FD5EE90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Early evening very strong DFCW from  UA= 0AET I=20 believe and the signals was CW audible here weakly with a narrower CW= filter.=20 There is another  QRSS  type signal just HF which Im not sur= e of near=20 779. Any takers? The freqs shown are probably less then 0.1Hz low - Im= using the=20 SDR IQ and it does wander a little as the apartment heating system com= es on off=20 at will....
 
All times GMT. My local LF/HF listening plea= sure=20 environment has deteriorated with the advent of winter heating systems= being=20 brought on line and the return and reconnection of satellite TV dishes= on the=20 same roof with an increase of unwanted QRM, plus the "rise"= or more=20 highrise apartment blocks North of me within 100m -  All satellit= e dish=20 cables were cut (mostly literally) by the local authority a year or so= =20 back...
 
 
Laurence KL1 X in BY3A OM89UA
 
 
 
 
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mail.toya.net.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E755520000061 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:03:44 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B0C2E10.4060605@toya.net.pl> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:03:44 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGlvdHIgTcWCeW5hcnNraQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000e01ca6d27$45eaac40$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> In-Reply-To: <000e01ca6d27$45eaac40$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: SITOR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070303030608080003030401" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------070303030608080003030401 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mal hamilton wrote: > Looking for a good decode prog. > mal/g3kev > Dear Mal, LF, There are many programmes available on the net which can decode different FSK modulation schemes. Many of these are free for download and further use. The most flexible software i.e. with selectable baud rate, shift, mark/space change and source format and, at the same time being widely known among radioamateurs is, in my view, the MMTTY soft by JE3HHT which can be downloaded from: http://mmhamsoft.amateur-radio.ca/mmtty/ Also I would advise to use another program maybe less known to hams but quite interesting.. It is mainly suited for SDR type radio although it works without any problems with conventional receivers. its name is Sigmira and it can be freely downloaded from: http://saharlow.com/technology/sigmira/index.htm it does have ITA2 ,ASCII ( with selectable bits per character as well as parity ) and also CCIR476 source formats 73 de Piotr, sq7mpj qth: Lodz /jo91rs/ p.s Mal, have you received my qsl card for our xband 500kcs/7Mhz qso?. --------------070303030608080003030401 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable mal hamilton wrote:
Looking for a good decode prog.
mal/g3kev
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Dear Mal,=C2=A0 LF,
There are many programmes=C2=A0 available on the net=C2=A0 which can=C2=A0= decode different FSK modulation schemes.
Many of these are free for download and further use.=C2=A0 The most flexib= le software=C2=A0 i.e. with selectable=C2=A0 baud rate,
shift,=C2=A0 mark/space change and source format=C2=A0 and, at the same ti= me being=C2=A0 widely known among=C2=A0 radioamateurs is, in my view,
=C2=A0the MMTTY=C2=A0 soft by JE3HHT which can be downloaded from:
http://mmhamsoft.amateur-radio.ca/mmtty/
Also I=C2=A0 would=C2=A0 advise to use another program maybe=C2=A0 less kn= own=C2=A0 to hams=C2=A0 but=C2=A0 quite interesting..
It is mainly suited=C2=A0 for SDR type radio although=C2=A0 it works witho= ut any problems with conventional receivers. its name is Sigmira
and it can be freely downloaded from:
http://saharlow.com/technology/sigmira/index.htm it does have=C2=A0 ITA2 ,ASCII ( with selectable bits per character as wel= l as parity )=C2=A0 and also CCIR476=C2=A0 source formats

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--------------070303030608080003030401-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (rly-dc06.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.35]) by air-dc09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC092-b294b06d9c443; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:03:33 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC065-b294b06d9c443; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:02:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBXnm-0008OJ-LX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:01:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBXnm-0008OA-67 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:01:46 +0000 Received: from web28108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.128]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBXnm-0001e9-2A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:01:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 25687 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Nov 2009 18:01:40 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1258740100; bh=/u1lKE/MsZK7FEVeh/6FWCstDdEBx4sSvRRqTqNR058=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZXKTzf+nssKfTZwPfOL/nIr7Pq4T6ElfYAvpmkDpjRcV/8vXjqjAhNFYG5YrvQASd4o+VQrMj8TjEHAh/rbotpOt0XeI7/EvM4INvt1T6cxDYA3Xfh89lJ/KWFKr0Tdu74i6+peIxPugROgL17/1v/oIvp9TRPzQjOra0rHBY4c= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=sMfUzsXFDohkSBUymVPWXKVEUrZKWARTHRmY0Z3RIuwm+8ic+ince5F0OlK6DHRCBalgipY8ubkD6Lu8M0Kn14umHltgFhfW7c2uL/6GKOjxaKDJd4GQeVeVtZmwg6uAWUFCC0EN0h74yICsEDrQ+cgg/V4vAv65XGtl2EYXrvY=; Message-ID: <990579.85687.qm@web28108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: fQ5uhfcVM1m1d2zp1Q7yW8HGUzxk6IDi1cPQxhcO2h5K22LJzMWVocNxKVs7JoKEZ0O_rWMSCfTFEFbfqmtCfVVLL1v.kbyzcxR1h3tsvZIdld24wmDz7vjwtkJPBgHhjDaDITXhByebkKYTSycxd2R9ojxn60woHn03qhg_wnL3NvoutM1gWWh0HQC.T8E7zxdtwSnPScVRxEv6t0uxB.G2sg_ZA63Zhv.k1eoG.FHcqHGnWuraMYsQfubGtLW_AtClHCfAbJpzvfuL64L..KLnNWmuzRSYVwK3wx0nwLYcL_k2qGOyJQdsltuRPAVZmDexB30JLntb7w-- Received: from [86.140.72.176] by web28108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:01:39 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:01:39 -0800 (PST) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: Soft Rock for 500 Khz where to buy ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-60457580-1258740099=:85687" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m244.2 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-60457580-1258740099=:85687 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Graham =A0 To get all the info you will ever need about softrock either join Softrock= 40 yahoo group. All softrock circuits are available for all projects are= in the goups files. Also WB5RVZ has a web site with a lot of info but MR= SOFTROCK is Tony Parks helpful to a fault. There is nothing new in softro= ck that he has not designed and=A0kitted up and supplied.... Trust me I am= a Softrock enthusiast and some say slightly NUTS. Send a specific request to Tony Parks he is the manufacturer, designer, bu= lk purchaser.GURU, and all round good chap who will see that you get exact= ly what you want for a 500kc/s softrock. =A0 Good luck Graham 73 petefmt --- On Fri, 20/11/09, Graham wrote: From: Graham Subject: Re: LF: Soft Rock for 500 Khz where to buy ?? To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Friday, 20 November, 2009, 17:40 Peter, =A0 Only see=A0=A0=A0=A0 160=A0 mtr as the lowest=A0 frequency ? is there a sp= ecial ? =A0 Tnx=A0 G ..=20 From: M0FMT=20 Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:09 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Soft Rock for 500 Khz where to buy ?? =A0 Hi Graham n group =A0 Just mail Tony Parks details and costs at......... http://www.kb9yig.com/= =A0=20 =A0 Gl 73 petefmt --- On Thu, 19/11/09, Graham wrote: From: Graham Subject: LF: Soft Rock for 500 Khz where to buy ?? To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thursday, 19 November, 2009, 23:29 All . =A0 Where=A0 can a Soft Rock rx for=A0 500=A0 Khz be=A0 purchased from ./ =A0 Or=A0 do=A0 you=A0 need=A0 to=A0 modify a 455 Khz version for 500 ? If so .. where from a 455khz version ? =A0 Tnx-=20 =A0 Graham ..=20 =20 --0-60457580-1258740099=:85687 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Graham
 
To get all the info you will ever need about softrock either join Sof= trock40 yahoo group. All softrock circuits are available for all projects= are in the goups files. Also WB5RVZ has a web site with a lot of info but= MR SOFTROCK is Tony Parks helpful to a fault. There is nothing new in sof= trock that he has not designed and kitted up and supplied.... Trust= me I am a Softrock enthusiast and some say slightly NUTS.
Send a specific request to Tony Parks he is the manufacturer, designe= r, bulk purchaser.GURU, and all round good chap who will see that you get= exactly what you want for a 500kc/s softrock.
 
Good luck Graham 73 petefmt

--- On Fri, 20/11/09, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

From: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>Subject: Re: LF: Soft Rock for 500 Khz where to buy ??
To: rsgb_lf_gr= oup@blacksheep.org
Date: Friday, 20 November, 2009, 17:40

Peter,
 
Only see     160 = ; mtr as the lowest  frequency ? is there a special ?
 
Tnx  G ..

From: M0FMT
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Soft Rock for 500 Khz where to buy ??

 
Hi Graham n group
 
Just mail Tony Parks details and costs at......... http://www.kb9yig.com/=  
 
Gl 73 petefmt

--- On Thu, 19/11/09, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

From: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co= .uk>
Subject: LF: Soft Rock for 500 Khz where to buy ??
To:= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Thursday, 19= November, 2009, 23:29

All .
 
Where  can a Soft Rock rx for = 500  Khz be  purchased from ./
 
Or  do  you  need  to=   modify a 455 Khz version for 500 ?
If so .. where from a 455khz version ?
 
Tnx-
 
Graham ..






=20 --0-60457580-1258740099=:85687-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD061-9044afac31b273; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:59:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD054-9044afac31b273; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:58:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8Dhh-0002V0-JR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:57:45 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8Dhg-0002Ur-Sx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:57:44 +0000 Received: from mail.ebirds.it ([151.8.133.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8Dhe-0002bV-6R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:57:44 +0000 Received: by mail.ebirds.it (Postfix, from userid 65534) id CE626587AA; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:57:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ebirds.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3596C587A5 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:57:38 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ebirds.it Received: from mail.ebirds.it ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mamba02.ebirds.it [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GvB7RAkJcEzJ for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:57:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from imac2 (host185-41-static.24-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it [87.24.41.185]) by mail.ebirds.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABE605368E; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:57:37 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:57:15 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Marco IK1ODO -2 In-Reply-To: <4AFAAE9C.1070304@ukonline.co.uk> References: <001101ca621e$dcdc3380$96949a80$@princeton.edu> <20091110192309.4v8agotbs0k0gocs@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <004a01ca6249$d91531e0$8b3f95a0$@princeton.edu> <20091110222951.cr4qtrqagcwcowok@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <4AFAAE9C.1070304@ukonline.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091111135737.ABE605368E@mail.ebirds.it> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Ferrite characteristics Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 At 15:15 11-11-09, Peter Dodd wrote: >Does anyone know of a method of measuring the characteristics >(permeability) of ferrite cores? I have a box of these most without >any identification although I do have T200, 68-2T and T68-2s whose >characteristics are known. > >It occurs to me that you can make a tuned circuit and measure >resonance with a GDO when a ferrite core is inserted into the >inductance. A graph could be made of the different resonances with >different cores, to extrapolate the unknowns. > >However I think that ferrite bulk might be a problem. For example I >guess the red T cores use the same material but would there be a >difference between the T200 and the T68? > >I have lots of material about ferrites in general - I just want to >know what I have in my junk box. I am not interested in exact >measurements, I just want to know if a core is suitable for a specific job. > >Regards > >Peter, G3LDO Peter, just my 2 Eurocents... wound a few (5 to 20) turns, measure L and take physical dimensions of the toroid, use G4FGQ's toroid.exe, and then play with the parameters in the program to find wich permeability gives the L you measured. The program is pretty accurate, Reg did a nice job. 73 - Marco IK1ODO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (rly-dg06.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.90]) by air-dg05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG052-5ce4b06d4d51b6; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:42:08 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG061-5ce4b06d4d51b6; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:41:43 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBXTH-0008G9-PO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:40:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBXTH-0008G0-BT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:40:35 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBXTG-0001Vo-Jc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:40:35 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3403.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D9A131C00081 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:40:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3403.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id CD1FD1C00086 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:40:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.84.216]) by mwinf3403.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 4C0171C00081 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:40:26 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091120174026311.4C0171C00081@mwinf3403.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <923971.55504.qm@web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <923971.55504.qm@web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:40:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: Re: LF: Soft Rock for 500 Khz where to buy ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004D_01CA6A08.7EE09310" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01CA6A08.7EE09310 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Peter, Only see 160 mtr as the lowest frequency ? is there a special ? Tnx G ..=20 From: M0FMT=20 Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:09 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Soft Rock for 500 Khz where to buy ?? Hi Graham n group Just mail Tony Parks details and costs at......... http://www.kb= 9yig.com/ =20 Gl 73 petefmt --- On Thu, 19/11/09, Graham wrote: From: Graham Subject: LF: Soft Rock for 500 Khz where to buy ?? To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thursday, 19 November, 2009, 23:29 All . Where can a Soft Rock rx for 500 Khz be purchased from ./ Or do you need to modify a 455 Khz version for 500 ? If so .. where from a 455khz version ? Tnx-=20 Graham ..=20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01CA6A08.7EE09310 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Peter,
 
Only see     160&= nbsp; mtr as=20 the lowest  frequency ? is there a special ?
 
Tnx  G ..

From: M0FMT
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Soft Rock for 500 Khz where to buy=20 ??




------=_NextPart_000_004D_01CA6A08.7EE09310-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME072-9d14affbe36111; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:39:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME085-9d14affbe36111; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:39:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9acs-0004wt-9h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:38:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9acr-0004wk-Sl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:38:25 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f211.google.com ([209.85.220.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9acq-0008ER-U7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:38:25 +0000 Received: by fxm3 with SMTP id 3so153221fxm.4 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:38:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=j0X4egcx5+55rPiangPdfeoaFNxrl2fwqGelTbaaVt8=; b=CH6n0s02ONcsaf6V2s2H+/W4ehfut8NhzhC+JNlQiszUTD2/LRjecBPmtxepzrObPN Muzy/U/R1VxgaeMp9MaIHv08mq6eSxGecPNY3+FFGd9rC1oNV52uyS7IB9d317rk3KTt on5o7ORkykVwFjhmWNJs3dCpo/0bxCnea13Tk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=f/TtqB1LikyFpaZG0hjMZgQddSXKWuCBv2Tw/4ALZMHgzuDwPbQeR5cDz0wnpuHvQD +lj/7RbHPARGuocpp7VXDkoJJp63VQtudCB/0e5xHrVJFxBsKYA6/Ydk2TgdY5vCoHSd zA/HI+/i3k6BdzH1+/Guk/SvSWdQZpDPEcJfE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.6.24 with SMTP id 24mr3837514bkx.25.1258274299134; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:38:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4AFF3A2D.90108@sighthound.demon.co.uk> References: <9afca2640911141508w69cbb664i4d18d02e39c480d0@mail.gmail.com> <4AFF3A2D.90108@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:38:19 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911150038k1f79a343n1d87c4f4d7655c8f@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz WSPR - Germany at last Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c0e9aa1450a047864d023 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m277.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0015174c0e9aa1450a047864d023 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi John (et al), Yes, I managed to get it to match on 500kHz and, despite what appeared to be a lower antenna current, it got me to Germany and France. Today I am going to try for some CW QSOs. G3XIZ look out! 73s Roger G3XBM 2009/11/14 John P-G > > > Roger Lapthorn wrote: > >> 2009-11-14 23:04 G3XBM 0.503892 -29 1 JO02dg 0.002 *DK6NI* JN59ln >> > > Roger, > > I thought you weren't going to be using WPSR tonight! Has the antenna dried > out now? > > John > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --0015174c0e9aa1450a047864d023 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi John (et al),

Yes, I managed to get it to match on 500kHz and,= despite what appeared to be a lower antenna current, it got me to Germany= and France. Today I am going to try for some CW QSOs. G3XIZ look out!
=
73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/11/14 John P-G= <gm= 4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>


Roger Lapthorn wrote:
=A02009-11-14 23:04 =A0G3XBM =A00.503892 =A0-29 =A01 =A0JO02dg =A00.002 = =A0*DK6NI* =A0JN59ln

Roger,

I thought you weren't going to be using WPSR tonight! Has the antenna= dried out now?

John




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http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088
--0015174c0e9aa1450a047864d023-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD031-b5a4aff3a65e5; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:16:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD014-b5a4aff3a65e5; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:16:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9Rqc-0001v4-FP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:16:02 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9Rqc-0001uv-2w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:16:02 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9Rqa-0006lU-8h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:16:02 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.14] (unknown [192.168.1.14]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE66E3B49B for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:15:57 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4AFF3A2D.90108@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:15:57 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <9afca2640911141508w69cbb664i4d18d02e39c480d0@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9afca2640911141508w69cbb664i4d18d02e39c480d0@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz WSPR - Germany at last Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Roger Lapthorn wrote: > 2009-11-14 23:04 G3XBM 0.503892 -29 1 JO02dg 0.002 *DK6NI* JN59ln Roger, I thought you weren't going to be using WPSR tonight! Has the antenna dried out now? John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA051-a694afea592177; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:42:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA051-a694afea592177; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:41:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9Hw2-0007g7-DJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:40:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9Hw2-0007fy-1c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:40:58 +0000 Received: from out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.239]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9Hw1-0005WQ-5c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:40:58 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AswEALMz/kpZ8h2I/2dsb2JhbACCIi2BaolaBsVahDwE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,741,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="89871702" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.242.29.136]) by out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 14 Nov 2009 12:40:49 +0000 Message-ID: <024f01ca6527$b574a190$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:40:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: DX TONITE Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_024C_01CA6527.B494A1D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_024C_01CA6527.B494A1D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I shall be DXING agn tonite TX 502.57 and QSX 7033 and 3533, or any fr= eq requested. CQ G3KEV QSK - just BK for qso. Freqs monitored at all times for immediate QSO - NO BEACON mode=20 Last nite vy productive for 500/HF QSO'S around EU and beyond 73 de mal/g3kev =20 ------=_NextPart_000_024C_01CA6527.B494A1D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I shall be DXING agn tonite TX 502.57= and QSX 7033=20 and 3533, or any freq requested. CQ G3KEV QSK - just BK for qso.
Freqs monitored at all times for imme= diate QSO=20 - NO BEACON mode
Last nite vy productive for 500/= HF QSO'S=20 around EU and beyond
73 de mal/g3kev
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_024C_01CA6527.B494A1D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da08.mx.aol.com (rly-da08.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.82]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDA094-a884b1135da3b9; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 09:38:30 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA088-a884b1135da3b9; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 09:38:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEOQN-0004hQ-HT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:37:23 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEOQM-0004hH-Vo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:37:23 +0000 Received: from mout4.freenet.de ([195.4.92.94]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEOQL-0007cO-7s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:37:22 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.16] (helo=6.mx.freenet.de) by mout4.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.70 #1) id 1NEOQK-0000m1-Es for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:37:20 +0100 Received: from wb31d.w.pppool.de ([89.58.179.29]:1082 helo=[192.168.1.3]) by 6.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #94) id 1NEOQK-0004zt-2n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:37:20 +0100 Message-ID: <4B11359E.8090001@freenet.de> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:37:18 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Wolfgang_B=FCscher?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <806352.5294.qm@web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <806352.5294.qm@web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: How do I use Spectrum Lab as a VLF Soft Receiver ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Andy, Of course Spectum Lab does work as a software designed radio with audio output. If you use a stereo soundcard (for I/Q input), start here (in the main menu): Quick Settings .. Image cancelling receivers .. SDR on stereo soundcard, 48 k sampling, downconverter, adjustable filter. The "SID" setting is really not intended as an audible reciver, but as a strip chart plotter for fieldstrenghs. Cheers, Wolf . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com (rly-md01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.139]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD104-8e44b0d4991376; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:13:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD014-8e44b0d4991376; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:13:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDJXI-0003UP-Ee for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:12:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDJXH-0003UG-UB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:12:03 +0000 Received: from out1.ip09ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.245]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDJXH-0001zE-42 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:12:03 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuAEAA7YDEtcGuLt/2dsb2JhbACCIS+LPgbIBYQyBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,286,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="246962254" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.26.226.237]) by out1.ip09ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 25 Nov 2009 15:11:57 +0000 Message-ID: <000b01ca6de1$9fb6b1a0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000c01ca6db1$04873810$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:11:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Class E pa Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01CA6DE1.9F5C0E80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01CA6DE1.9F5C0E80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tony The G3YXM designs are class D and not class E. I do not know of any am= ateur using class E except myself. There could be others of course but most favour class D probably becau= se they are more flexible as far as frequency is concerned. Class E is= a very narrow frequency PA design and more critical to set up, but on= ce adjusted properly using a scope to get the drain waveform perfected= it is a vy reliable PA. De Mal/G3KEV=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Anton B=E4rtschi=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 11:47 AM Subject: Re: LF: Class E pa Hi Mal I'm still using a Derivative of the Design from G3YXM's class E 1KW= TX on LF. Recently I've built a TX for 500 kHz using the same princip= le. It works great and delivers up to 500W. Unfortunately only into a= dummy load, because 500 kHz is still not allowed here in Switzerland.= But at least - I will be ready ;-) 73 de Toni, HB9ASB 2009/11/25 mal hamilton Ref recent discussion on the subject. I use a class E pa on 500 kcs and never get any trouble. As a general guide use high voltage fets and the fet V should be= rated at about 5 times the supply V and current about 3 times. You arrive at class E by careful design not by accident.=20 Having designed and built the PA for the required power and load= R usually 50 ohms adjust into a DL for correct waveform as displayed= on a 'scope, this is important otherwise V spikes and instability wil= l kill the fet.=20 Install a suitable antenna and match it with a suitable atu to 50= ohms so when you connect the TX/PA to the antenna they both match. Check the wave form again and any slight mismatch should be adjust= ed by the antenna atu and NOT the pa.=20 The load does not have to be 50 ohms but this is convenient when= testing with available test gear. High V fets give more realistic C and Inductor and R values. A goo= d range for fets is a psu giving 40 - 100 volts ie fets 500volts and= a suitable current rating depending on your power. requirements ie if= you need to draw 5 amps the fet should be rated 15 amps. These are the general guidelines and work well for me. Most amateurs seem to use class D amps whereas class E are rare. de Mal/G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01CA6DE1.9F5C0E80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tony
The G3YXM designs are class D and not= class E. I do=20 not know of any amateur using class E except myself.
There could be others of course but= most favour=20 class D probably because they are more flexible as far as frequency=20 is concerned. Class E is a very narrow frequency PA design= and more=20 critical to set up, but once adjusted properly using a scope to get th= e drain=20 waveform perfected it is a vy reliable PA.
De Mal/G3KEV
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Anton= B=E4rtschi=20
Sent: Wednesday, November 25,= 2009 11:47=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Class E pa

Hi Mal
I'm still using a Derivative of the Design= from=20 G3YXM's class E 1KW TX on LF. Recently I've built a TX for 500 kHz= using the=20 same principle. It works great and delivers up to 500W. Unfortunatel= y only=20 into a dummy load, because 500 kHz is still not allowed here in Swit= zerland.=20 But at least - I will be ready ;-)
73 de Toni, HB9ASB

2009/11/25 mal hamilton <= ;g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
Ref recent discussion on the=20 subject.
 
I use a class E pa on 500 kcs and= never get any=20 trouble.
As a general guide use high volta= ge fets and=20 the fet V should be rated at  about 5 times the supply V and= current=20 about 3 times.
You arrive at class E by careful= design not by=20 accident.
Having designed and built the PA= for the=20 required power and load R usually 50 ohms adjust into a= DL for=20 correct waveform as displayed on a 'scope, this is important other= wise V=20 spikes and instability will kill the fet.
Install a suitable antenna and ma= tch it with a=20 suitable atu to 50 ohms so when you connect the TX/PA to the anten= na they=20 both match.
Check the wave form again and any= slight=20 mismatch should be adjusted by the antenna atu and NOT the pa.
The load does=20 not have to be 50 ohms but this is convenient when testing with av= ailable=20 test gear.
High V fets give more realistic= C and Inductor=20 and R values. A good range for fets is a psu giving 40 - 100 volts= ie fets=20 500volts and a suitable current rating depending on your power. re= quirements=20 ie if you need to draw 5 amps the fet should be rated 15 amps.
These are the general guidelines= and work well=20 for me.
Most amateurs seem to use class= D amps whereas=20 class E are rare.
 
de Mal/G3KEV
 

------=_NextPart_000_0008_01CA6DE1.9F5C0E80-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (rly-mf01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.171]) by air-mf02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF023-93e4af4532a250; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 11:47:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF014-93e4af4532a250; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 11:47:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6Rwh-0005TL-TF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:45:55 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6Rwh-0005TC-Ed for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:45:55 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f211.google.com ([209.85.220.211]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6Rwe-0003d2-Jy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:45:55 +0000 Received: by fxm3 with SMTP id 3so295699fxm.4 for ; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 08:45:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=xurnc/QrlU0IKDF01LGfa9Ohbu/eKEmj45Fyb0aVbM8=; b=HbTVf+Dnf9v0N8Nvgwa1/G2gbSKQsqpW1mnP04VzklcLCtxRNCg1ZjEpZAGxum4ZMY Noi7udnn5I+viWh4QS2Mzld/6TLaE9Z+j3om8otM8mMbRbkjNGtX8qzJ/dCeZBxaH8M2 ilqb8yPtHTYYr7gxhnNsAHyWqjbQoKk9xdjVg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=w4w7OwgJM9yL60NCCECcrzlLsDRJkpFczkJPS1abGf/Uv9uXMWutWnVdtyIgQ00L2n cC/UQyMoyNUYKxtmHENIYkzOECtrdqAKdZajEay02PUF7pIgOz9VLLl19TYAW19zSNnF QgwiPmPtFdcTjN+caY43ZJfsYg08MYjfmUYx4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.152.151 with SMTP id g23mr4388832bkw.148.1257525946666; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 08:45:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:45:46 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911060845r17eb75daracad4f874c3a1c9c@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_10_20=0.945,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: G3XBM: 500kHz ERP increased by 6dB - WSPR reports please Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175d036258cfb50477b6933c X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m220.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0015175d036258cfb50477b6933c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Today I modified my 500kHz antenna. The 28MHz halo up at the top of the 5-6m vertical section (which was the coax feed to the 28MHz halo) was removed and replaced by a spiral inductance/ top capacity hat consisting of around around 8 "spiralling in" turns in the space occupied by the original halo. Seeing my initial reports from M0BMU I am some *5-6dB stronger* than I was before, I guess because more of the antenna current is in the vertical section. The measured antenna current is not much different though. *Please listen for me on 500kHz WSPR* and let me know if I am now stronger than before. 73s Roger G3XBM -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --0015175d036258cfb50477b6933c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Today I modified my 500kHz antenna. The 28MHz halo up at the top of the 5-= 6m vertical section (which was the coax feed to the 28MHz halo) was remove= d and replaced by a spiral inductance/ top capacity hat consisting of arou= nd around 8 "spiralling in" turns in the space occupied by the= original halo.=A0 Seeing my initial reports from M0BMU I am some 5-6dB= stronger than I was before, I guess because more of the antenna curre= nt is in the vertical section. The measured antenna current is not much di= fferent though.

Please listen for me on 500kHz WSPR and let me know if= I am now stronger than before.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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--0015175d036258cfb50477b6933c-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA033-8d44af72efc1c; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:50:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA106-8d44af72efc1c; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:50:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7Eh2-0000tG-GD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:49:00 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7Eh1-0000t7-M8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:48:59 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([199.185.220.240]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7Egy-0006ZC-Iy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:48:59 +0000 Received: from edtnaa01.telusplanet.net ([75.157.140.241]) by priv-edtnes25.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091108204854.SVTC28811.priv-edtnes25.telusplanet.net@edtnaa01.telusplanet.net> for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:48:54 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.67] (d75-157-140-241.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.140.241]) by edtnaa01.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id C15792F367BA3353 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:48:53 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4AF72EB5.6060200@telus.net> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:48:53 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4AF67DB3.1020204@telus.net> <3A8796444EB74E3E82CA2F48F839559E@df2py> In-Reply-To: <3A8796444EB74E3E82CA2F48F839559E@df2py> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: AW: DCF39 strong on west coast. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Wolf Due to a decided shift in policy making by both RAC and Industry Canada, I have elected not to participate in their decidedly unamateur experimental program for 600m as a matter of principle. I remain fully committed to further experimental work on 2200m and look forward to the day when Canada 'finally' authorizes the band. I hope the spirit of some experimenters out there isn't dead and someone is willing to spark up a beacon from EU as the path seems the best I've seen in years of monitoring. 73 Scott VE7TIL CN89dk Wolf Ostwald wrote: > Hi Scott ! > Interesting about the signal from DCF in Germany. That transmitter is about > 50 miles east of me. But on LF almost no chance for VE7. > Are You doing any on 500 kcs ? That band is more of a chance for the > westcoast. But as of yet I have not reached the east coast on 500 kc. > But I am planning on good improvements for 500 kcs on the antenna side. > Let me know if You do any 500 kcs obsrvations. > 73 de wolf > BTW : added pix of my 505.030 kc transmitter - beacon call is DI2BJ > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc12.mx.aol.com (rly-mc12.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.96]) by air-mc03.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMC033-dad4b124446f0; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 04:52:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC125-dad4b124446f0; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 04:52:07 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEgQd-0008QR-Ui for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 09:50:51 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEgQd-0008QI-8c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 09:50:51 +0000 Received: from mx75.mail.ru ([94.100.176.90]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEgQb-0001N7-0x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 09:50:51 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=54662 helo=EFREMOV) by mx75.mail.ru with asmtp id 1NEgQU-0005We-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:50:42 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <003701ca70d9$6487b570$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: References: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AA67@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> <4B12205C.5020501@tut.by> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 09:49:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0030_01CA70D9.3BDBDFC0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01CA70D9.3BDBDFC0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Stefan, LF, Capture at 23.41. 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unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.248.107]) by out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 10 Nov 2009 18:17:56 +0000 Message-ID: <003801ca6232$239b5630$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <112811.74996.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:18:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0035_01CA6232.23621DC0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, LINES_OF_YELLING,LINES_OF_YELLING_2 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01CA6232.23621DC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dennis These Beacon Appliance unattended machine operators are causing QRM ga= lore to the Radio Amateur in QSO mode. The present band has insufficient bandwidth to accommodate unattended= beacon modes, with real time QSO'S one can avoid QRM or QRX until the= QRG is clear, whereas Beacons just belch out repeative gibberish and= the same persons respond via the reflector daily with the same old re= ports. You are quite right to make your point known.=20 73 de mal/g3kev =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 4:12 PM Subject: LF: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Congratulations Chris. Most wspr stations seem to congregate at the top end of the band and= are not too much trouble. Jim G7NKS is the biggest pain as he sits= on my xtl frequency and is so close. Maybe a compromise would be fo= r people using beacons to keep to one segment of the band (hopefully= not 502.2 kHz -hee) 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Chris Osborn=20 To: LF Group=20 Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 6:03 PM Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO LF It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 60= 0m. This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were= 600m / 80m. Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and= EI0CF - No. 998. QSO break-down according to mode: 928 CW, 34 RTTY and 5 QR= SS 600m STATIONS My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and= many of these go back to the start of the UK 600m allocation in Marc= h 2007. Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excludi= ng beacons). Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard= of again: G3KZU, G3YHV . . . Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT: G3UN= T, G3VTT, G4GDR. . . MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the= same stations many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of= my total contacts. My most frequently worked stations are: GW3UEP - 120 G3KEV - 102 M0FMT - 90 G3ZWH - 80 (al= as now SK) G3DXZ - 67 G4GDR - 60 EI0CF/ GI4DPE - 51 M0JXM= - 48 G3UNT - 45 G3VTT - 38 CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a= cross-band QSO: DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . . and our few EU MF friends are still active: ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . . WSPR ON 600m I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for= the WSPR mode was never achieved for hand sent Morse (CW), which aft= er all is the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF ma= rine band. If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stati= ons operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band= then I guess it may be time for me to QSY. 73 Chris G3XIZ ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01CA6232.23621DC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dennis
These Beacon Appliance unattended mac= hine operators=20 are causing QRM galore to the Radio Amateur in QSO mode.
The present band has insufficient ban= dwidth to=20 accommodate unattended beacon modes, with real time QSO'S one can avoi= d QRM or=20 QRX until the QRG is clear, whereas Beacons just belch out repeative= gibberish=20 and the same persons respond via the reflector daily with the same old= =20 reports.
You are quite right&nb= sp;to make=20 your point known.
73 de mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 10,= 2009 4:12=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: G3XIZ - 1000= th MF=20 QSO

Congratulations Chris.
 
Most wspr stations seem to congrega= te at the top=20 end of the band and are not too much trouble.    Jim G7NKS is the biggest pain as he= sits on my xtl frequency=20 and is so close.   Maybe a compromise would be for people= using=20 beacons to keep to one segment of the band (hopefully not 502.2 kHz= =20 -hee)
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Chr= is Osborn=20
Sent: Sunday, November 08,= 2009 6:03=20 PM
Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000= th MF=20 QSO

LF

It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000= th QSO=20 using 600m.
This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all= of which=20 were 600m / 80m.

Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners= up G3XPU=20 - No. 999 and EI0CF - No. 998.

QSO break-down according to= mode:=20     928 CW,  34 RTTY  and   5= =20 QRSS

600m=20 STATIONS

My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a= total of=20 59 stations and many of= these go back=20 to the start of the UK  600m allocation in March 2007.
Of= these I=20 have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding beacons)= .
Many=20 stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of= =20 again:  G3KZU, G3YHV . . .
Others were once very active bu= t have=20 subsequently gone QRT:  G3UNT, G3VTT, G4GDR. . .

MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED

With=20 so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the same= stations=20 many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of my total=20 contacts.
My most frequently worked stations are:

GW3UEP= -=20 120     G3KEV - 102    &nb= sp; M0FMT=20 - 90     G3ZWH  -  80  (alas no= w=20 SK)
G3DXZ    -   67   &= nbsp;=20 G4GDR -   60      EI0CF/ GI4DPE=  =20 -  51   M0JXM - 48
G3UNT    -&nbs= p; =20 45     G3VTT  -   38

CROSS-BAND AND EU=20 STATIONS

There are a few 'regular' stations who list= en to 600m=20 and enjoy a cross-band QSO:
DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE= , G3TVF .=20 . .

and our few EU MF friends are still active:
ON4KTJ,= OR7T and=20 OZ8NJ. . .

WSPR= ON=20 600m

I personally find it sad that the present level= of=20 enthusiasm for the WSPR mode was never achieved for  hand sen= t Morse=20 (CW), which after all is the mode which I call to mind when thinki= ng of the=20 old MF marine band.
If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with= more and=20 stronger stations operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which= is the=20 600m band then I guess it may be time for me to QSY.

73 Chris=20 G3XIZ







------=_NextPart_000_0035_01CA6232.23621DC0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db04.mx.aol.com (rly-db04.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.79]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB032-ac14b09ebdfcb; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:57:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB047-ac14b09ebdfcb; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:56:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCO9f-0007Gi-At for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:55:51 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCO9e-0007GZ-Lx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:55:50 +0000 Received: from col0-omc1-s2.col0.hotmail.com ([65.55.34.12]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCO9c-0007Lv-Ah for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:55:50 +0000 Received: from COL122-W31 ([65.55.34.9]) by col0-omc1-s2.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:55:38 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:55:37 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Nov 2009 01:55:38.0138 (UTC) FILETIME=[0DC597A0:01CA6BE0] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_c884762b-0e17-4cff-af5f-2e6f59c3dc50_" Subject: LF: MRC X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --_c884762b-0e17-4cff-af5f-2e6f59c3dc50_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_5d329a66-05f9-41eb-bf1a-8725512938be_" --_5d329a66-05f9-41eb-bf1a-8725512938be_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Joe, Rik, LF! MRC signal is as strong as EU QRSS station now. It is unbelievable! Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS **** BTW *** "The strong vertical lines are "made in Sweden" ;-)" Rik, where are this vertical lines in your grabber from? I saw somethink= similar here as well.=20 Those lines was very strong, periodic and they finished around the midnigh= t. =20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: Zjedodu=B9te si ka=BEdodenn=ED =FAkoly. Kter=FD po=E8=EDta=E8= je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD? http://windows.microsoft.com/shop=3D --_5d329a66-05f9-41eb-bf1a-8725512938be_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Joe, Rik, LF!
MRC signal is as strong as EU QRSS station now. It= is unbelievable!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

**** BTW ***
"The strong vertical lines are "made in Sweden" ;-)"

Rik, where ar= e this vertical lines in your grabber from? I saw somethink similar here= as well.
Those lines was very strong, periodic and they finished arou= nd the midnight.


 

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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:25:55 +0000 Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com ([205.188.105.144]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8DCB-0005SD-0X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:25:11 +0000 Received: from imo-da02.mx.aol.com (imo-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.200]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nABDPeP1004233 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:25:40 -0500 Received: from G4gvw@aol.com by imo-da02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id l.ca1.67636aed (56013) for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:25:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.64] ([92.23.134.203]) by cia-md07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMD077-dacd4afabb50189; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:25:37 -0500 From: pat gillen To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <31E46023A2704DF8A4431C0B44BAE495@Hugh> References: <001101ca621e$dcdc3380$96949a80$@princeton.edu> <20091110192309.4v8agotbs0k0gocs@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <004a01ca6249$d91531e0$8b3f95a0$@princeton.edu> <20091110222951.cr4qtrqagcwcowok@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <4AFAAE9C.1070304@ukonline.co.uk> <31E46023A2704DF8A4431C0B44BAE495@Hugh> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:25:36 +0000 Message-Id: <1257945936.10404.7.camel@pat-desktop-dell> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: G4gvw@aol.com X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Ferrite characteristics Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Peter, I tend to do something similar to Hugh but perhaps a little less "scientifically" viz.; When playing toroids etc. I determine which ones are successful for a particular application and use an LCR meter to measure the inductance of 5 turns of approx 14g copper and mark the toroid accordingly. My little stock is marked in this way and a note is made of the apps for which they were suitable (or in some cases unsuitable). I am sure there are much better ways but it gets me by. 73 de Pat g4gvw On Wed, 2009-11-11 at 12:55 +0000, Hugh_m0wye wrote: > Hi Peter, > In the past I have wound a few turns aound the core and measured the > Inductance. From this you can calculate the AL value, or "Inductance Factor" > in nH per turns squared. I measured the Inductance on an LCR meter, but you > could resonate the coil against a capacitor and use a GDO as you suggest. > > Number of turns = square root of (L / AL) where L is inductance in nH. > > From this you can compare to published figures, for example the RM series of > Ferrite cores (RS used to publish tables which included the AL value, in > their catalogues) > > 73 > Hugh M0WYE > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Dodd" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 12:31 PM > Subject: LF: Ferrite characteristics > > > > Does anyone know of a method of measuring the characteristics > > (permeability) of ferrite cores? I have a box of these most without any > > identification although I do have T200, 68-2T and T68-2s whose > > characteristics are known. > > > > It occurs to me that you can make a tuned circuit and measure resonance > > with a GDO when a ferrite core is inserted into the inductance. A graph > > could be made of the different resonances with different cores, to > > extrapolate the unknowns. > > > > However I think that ferrite bulk might be a problem. For example I guess > > the red T cores use the same material but would there be a difference > > between the T200 and the T68? > > > > I have lots of material about ferrites in general - I just want to know > > what I have in my junk box. I am not interested in exact measurements, I > > just want to know if a core is suitable for a specific job. > > > > Regards > > > > Peter, G3LDO > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc12.mx.aol.com (rly-mc12.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.96]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC023-daf4b003334249; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:58:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC127-daf4b003334249; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:58:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9iPf-0007mp-O5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:57:19 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9iPf-0007mg-3Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:57:19 +0000 Received: from mx27.mail.ru ([94.100.176.41]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9iPd-0000A3-Bh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:57:19 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=28077 helo=EFREMOV) by mx27.mail.ru with asmtp id 1N9iPX-000ESZ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:57:11 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <001601ca6614$a4c5b580$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: References: <029e01ca6536$28ca33e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:55:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: The American qrss-window on 500 khz Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello LF'ers, Somebody from the American HAM's works in the qrss-window 495.0-495.1 khz? 73 Andrey From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md04.mx.aol.com (rly-md04.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.142]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMD031-8fa4b125b429a; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:30:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD042-8fa4b125b429a; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:30:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEhxp-0000Sj-L6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:29:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEhxp-0000Sa-5l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:29:13 +0000 Received: from out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.242]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEhxo-0001m0-JI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:29:13 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AugEAFLpEUtZ8b7P/2dsb2JhbACCUYtMBsR+hDEEgXI X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,307,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="275466436" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([89.241.190.207]) by out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 29 Nov 2009 11:29:04 +0000 Message-ID: <003001ca70e7$24aaf3a0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <2746F3E144D3480AB85CD466920B1313@lindavideo> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:28:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: 4kv diode Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002D_01CA70E7.246D0040" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01CA70E7.246D0040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Electric Chair Co Zapenda Cul de sac Hellda State Zip73 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ken=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:04 AM Subject: LF: 4kv diode=20 Hello All. I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or equivalent diode, BY4 4kv @ 1A,= BY6 6kv @ 1A, I have searched the web and looked in Farnell, any ide= as please. 73. Ken M0KHW =20 ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01CA70E7.246D0040 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Hello All.
I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or eq= uivalent=20 diode, BY4   4kv @ 1A, BY6  6kv @ 1A, I have searched= the web=20 and looked in Farnell, any ideas please.
 
73.
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Jetzt freischalten unter http://movieflat.web.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb11.mx.aol.com (rly-mb11.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.169]) by air-mb08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB083-d3c4b09210a3bc; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:31:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB118-d3c4b09210a3bc; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:31:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCAeD-0002BB-H1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:30:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCAeD-0002B2-5E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:30:29 +0000 Received: from mbox2.netikka.net ([213.250.81.203]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCAeB-0003ff-8X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:30:29 +0000 Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by mbox2.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E23408118 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:30:21 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 423A4495B9D for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:30:21 +0200 (EET) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:30:21 +0200 Message-ID: <1258889421.4b0920cd3e42f@imp.netikka.net> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:30:21 +0200 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: G3KEV calling CQ in CW on 137.0kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Mal, LF Great signal from you on 137.0kHz normal CW at 1125UTC here in Vaasa KP03S= D. Antenna is a PA0RDT Mini-Whip 10m AGL and IC-R75 with no CW filter, just= the PBT to keep the bandedge powerhouse signals out. 73 Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ Vaasa / KP03SD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df01.mx.aol.com (rly-df01.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.14]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF014-5264b0024dd182; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:57:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF013-5264b0024dd182; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:57:19 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9hSg-0007LN-UH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:56:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9hSg-0007LE-A5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:56:22 +0000 Received: from out1.ip02ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.238]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9hSe-0001bc-4F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:56:22 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqIEACOz/0pOlMUA/2dsb2JhbACCT4FqiVsGw3OEPAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,746,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="99213040" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.197.0]) by out1.ip02ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 15 Nov 2009 15:56:13 +0000 Message-ID: <041601ca660c$2c6b9850$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <9afca2640911150409x1389fd48q451284c2e0ee43d5@mail.gmail.com> <03a301ca65ee$020ae250$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <9afca2640911150509x387471dcxa7e5ffa73e8ec9cb@mail.gmail.com> <040901ca6609$73095250$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:56:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: G3XBM on CW at noon? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0413_01CA660C.2A617070" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0413_01CA660C.2A617070 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable PS G3XBM nw cq at 1550 utc. Other stns on band. Am I the only one that ca= n copy him ? g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: Roger Lapthorn=20 Cc: rsgb=20 Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 3:36 PM Subject: LF: Re: G3XBM on CW at noon? Pleased u made it to Scarborough, good Q5 but weak. No need for wspr= . Lots of other CW acty on band today, hpe u work some more. 73 gud dxing mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Roger Lapthorn=20 To: mal hamilton=20 Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 1:09 PM Subject: Re: G3XBM on CW at noon? Many thanks Mal for my very first 2-way 500kHz CW QSO. You've good= ears my friend! 73s Roger G3XBM 2009/11/15 mal hamilton Well Roger u made it to Scarborough on CW, solid copy Q5 but I= doubt if WSPR would have decoded your signal. Tnx the 569 good DX ing 73 de mal/g3kev=20 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Roger Lapthorn=20 To: g3kevmal@talktalk.net=20 Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 12:09 PM Subject: G3XBM on CW at noon? Think you may have heard me on 500kHz around noon Mal. You cal= led "QRZ G3X"several times but failed to get me. Will try again. 73s Roger G3XBM (2mW ERP) --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.65/2503 - Release Da= te: 11/14/09 19:42:00 --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 ----------------------------------------------------------------------= ------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.65/2503 - Release Date:= 11/14/09 19:42:00 ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.65/2503 - Release Date: 11= /14/09 19:42:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0413_01CA660C.2A617070 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
PS
G3XBM nw cq at 1550 utc. Other stns= on band. Am I=20 the only one that can copy him ?
g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mal=20 hamilton
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 20= 09 3:36=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: G3XBM on CW= at=20 noon?

Pleased u made it to Scarborough,= good Q5 but=20 weak. No need for wspr. Lots of other CW acty on band today, hpe u= work some=20 more.
73 gud dxing mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 15,= 2009 1:09=20 PM
Subject: Re: G3XBM on CW at= noon?

Many thanks Mal for my very first 2-way 500kHz CW= QSO. You've=20 good ears my friend!

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/11/15 mal hamilton &= lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.ne= t>
Well Roger u made it to Scarbor= ough on CW,=20 solid copy Q5 but I doubt if WSPR would have decoded y= our=20 signal.
Tnx the 569
good DX ing
73 de mal/g3kev 
  
-----=20 Original Message -----
From:=20 Roger Lapthorn
Sent:=20 Sunday, November 15, 2009 12:09 PM
Subject:=20 G3XBM on CW at noon?

Think you may have heard me on 500kHz ar= ound noon=20 Mal. You called "QRZ G3X"several times but failed to get me.
Will=20 try again.

73s
Roger G3XBM (2mW ERP)
=
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http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.= g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM    GQRP 1678=20      ISWL G11088


No virus found in this incoming message.
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------=_NextPart_000_000C_01CA5C8A.FDE3AFC0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc01.mx.aol.com (rly-mc01.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.85]) by air-mc06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC063-d584b00b6bc274; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:19:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC018-d584b00b6bc274; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:19:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9rAz-0003nd-3r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:18:45 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9rAy-0003nU-HZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:18:44 +0000 Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com ([205.188.105.143]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9rAv-0003KH-A0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:18:44 +0000 Received: from imo-da04.mx.aol.com (imo-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.202]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nAG2IU0Y019602 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:18:30 -0500 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-da04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id l.d5d.4f44af6a (39332) for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:18:24 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:18:24 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: F4DTL@aol.com X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: VX9MRC beacon Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_d5d.4f44af6a.38321070_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --part1_d5d.4f44af6a.38321070_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1258337903" -------------------------------1258337903 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Joe, nice copy tonite. F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC7400 Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010 _http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/) -------------------------------1258337903 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Joe, nice copy tonite.
 
 
F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP
RX : Icom IC7400
Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010

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cqoayyMVM1luz7W1pM9IlFkDR7juebLfYGwQDbxlimD6ubE3Bg9Wip7Ge2eMXTEi8T8GzNi1iXMURYGxaZq.WHei9FIU8eRIOLavECiqqz40kG_NOf_t9ZDOO0PghLr0TMS8dkTsu1F5cCdhawNZbfXvOa6wK4pxiEGMyIrfTRtoA9PkIa6h2OS_M1urmUgLkDO0yELW9Cx501jkITSQ1RGoinfstVEtAlPYmzat6V1q8y7wfOdqpWwhAO173eHIJFNUvOPchhnaQZfwjw_V2ySSwOeKGzQQe5LIK2wGswPfSaGiV79MXGYhnrN5hhaWs3UGCCAoTSIYKbi2ZB4- Received: from [97.89.42.135] by web63604.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:11:23 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:11:23 -0800 (PST) From: Andy - KU4XR To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <785212.33618.qm@web28105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR BEACONS - Carrier topic Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d259.1 ; domain : yahoo.com DKIM : pass Hello all: Mal made reference to the WSPR carriers coming on, and going off as a source of QRM to the CW OPs. I'm curious; how much bandwidth does a carrier occupy ??? Further, a modulated carrier with the intelligence 1,500 cycles from the carrier center ferquency ??? Which carrier would produce the most adjacent frequency QRM; a 100 watt WSPR carrier, or a 100 watt 20 Wpm CW carrier ??? Does the On/Off repition rate of the carrier itself coupled with the power transmitted determine the bandwidth occupied ??? Who really causes QRM to a close by station with a strong signal??? Most WSPR OPs are low power; Many CW OPs are " as high as they can get it ". The issue of carrier related QRM is only related to a strong nearby signal that affects receiver AGC. Weak signals are of insignificant occurence. Using a 500 Hz CW filter; how far " Down " in dB's would WSPR tones be attenuated if you're operating 100 Hz away from the WSPR carrier ??? Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN. LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 185.29866 KHz ( QRSS-60 ) Coordinates: N: 35* 43' 54" - W: 84* 3' 16" http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME012-99e4b07c591144; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:48:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME022-99e4b07c591144; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:48:51 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBnUp-00040h-Ix for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:47:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBnUp-00040Y-3x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:47:15 +0000 Received: from smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com ([195.200.78.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBnUn-00082u-5c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:47:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 28298 invoked by uid 507); 21 Nov 2009 11:46:58 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO JR) (john.rabson@numeo.fr@217.67.155.178) by smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 2009 11:46:58 +0100 Message-ID: <200911211147020937.19DC740F@smtp2.numeo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:47:02 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: F8BOJ 40dB and G3XDV 20-30dB over noise on 137 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 At 1043z. John Rabson F5VLF 58800 Cervon France JN17vg From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (rly-mf06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.176]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF104-9654af4aac33c; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:01:28 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF063-9654af4aac33c; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:01:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6Xn3-0007AD-Ph for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:00:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6Xn3-0007A4-C7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:00:21 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6Xlw-00010s-8F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:59:13 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 06 Nov 2009 23:00:13 -0000 Received: from p5DD343BB.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO Clemens04) [93.211.67.187] by mail.gmx.net (mp062) with SMTP; 07 Nov 2009 00:00:13 +0100 X-Authenticated: #17214767 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX189fsd8QH49EhyJ6ge7b4sCnJ9kZ4XtkemtlU5Hcr DRosnQ+hLLMwAn Message-ID: <011501ca5f34$e615b1c0$0201a8c0@Clemens04> From: "Clemens Paul" To: References: <9afca2640911061357g15160968m9f249ed8aaeb6184@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 00:00:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.53,0.53 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: SM6BHZ on 500kHz WSPR tonight? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0111_01CA5F3D.462FC520" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0111_01CA5F3D.462FC520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gus is on air,very strong as usual, but running 100%TX ! 73 Clemens DL4RAJ ----- Original Message ----- From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 10:57 PM Subject: LF: SM6BHZ on 500kHz WSPR tonight? Anyone know if Gus is planning to be on 500kHz WSPR tonight? I'm hoping that he will (at last) decode me if he does appear. BTW, two new reporters this evening PA0AM and G4CAO - thanks to both. 73s Roger G3XBM -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.52/2484 - Release Date: 11/06/09 07:38:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0111_01CA5F3D.462FC520 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Gus is on air,very strong as usual,&n= bsp;but=20 running 100%TX !
 
73
Clemens
DL4RAJ
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 06, 20= 09 10:57=20 PM
Subject: LF: SM6BHZ on 500kHz= WSPR=20 tonight?

Anyone know if Gus is planning to be on 500kHz WSPR= tonight?=20 I'm hoping that he will (at last) decode me if he does appear.
<= BR>BTW,=20 two new reporters this evening PA0AM and G4CAO - thanks to=20 both.

73s
Roger G3XBM
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G3XBM  =20  GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088


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------=_NextPart_000_0111_01CA5F3D.462FC520-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG054-a1c4af816901dd; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:18:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG066-a1c4af816901dd; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:18:10 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7U7B-0003o2-A7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:17:01 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7U7A-0003nt-OY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:17:00 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7U78-00030y-6W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:17:00 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id B06DB51C006 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:16:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from PC_van_Rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-106.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.106]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B8431E702 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:16:50 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:17:03 +0100 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <003c01ca6136$e1f55380$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> References: <007a01ca60eb$9cb96fe0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <20091109090454.6C38331E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <003c01ca6136$e1f55380$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091109131650.A8B8431E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500 kHz TA report Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jay, in WSPR I run about 50 Watt. Estimated ERP is about 0.2 Watt. For CW I have a 250 Watt transmitter, so my ERP should be about 1 Watt. I cannot use the big TX for WSPR as it needs to be driven at the double frequency (that is divided by 2 and so provides the 180 degrees shifted signals to drive the push-pull PA). I intend to build new a 300 or 400 W PA that can be driven directly at 500kHz, when time permits. All WSPR reports I received from AA1A, K1JT and VE1VDM were between 22:00 and 22:30 UTC. So this seems a good moment. Before trying a 2-way contact I would like to check if I can hear you. But as said, I cannot spend all evening at the station and therefor would appreciate it to know in advance when I have to listen, either for you or for other US / Canadian stations. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T At 12:29 9/11/2009, you wrote: >Rik > >Yes...EI0CF has perhaps the ideal location. Likewise VE1ZZ (VX9ZZZ) >has an excellent location on >this end. Unfortunately I'm well inland but at least on a 'mountain' >with a good view of the distant >horizon but with some trees. > >I've been unable to receive your WSPR signal thus far although I've >only watched a few times that >you've been active. SM6BHZ is the only station that is 'routine' >copy. Assume you were running full >power in that mode? If there is no reception on WSPR the chances for >cw to make it through are >virtually nil. Will keep an eye on your WSPR signal. Once that gets >logged we can proceed to cw. > >The WE2XGR/2 cw beacon runs many evenings on 506.5 kHz. With the >successesful early evening contacts >with Finbar I'll start it earlier - about 2200 - 2230Z. >Unfortunately, there are grabbers in the US >that could be used as an indicator but they are often parked on a >different part of the band. Also >keep an eye open for WE2XGR/6 on 507.3 kHz. Bob is currently running >about 3 dB more power than I am >and routinely shows up on G4WGT grabber...my signal shows up somewhat less. > >Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 >506.5 kHz > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Rik Strobbe" >To: >Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:05 AM >Subject: Re: LF: 500 kHz TA report > > > > Hello Jay, > > > > congrats on the QSO with Finbar. > > His QTH is almost perfect for 500kHz (close to the ocean, almost > no obstacles) in contradiction to > > my QTH (inland, lot's of trees). > > But I am interested in a CW QSO with you, could you drop a > message (to the reflector) when you are > > QRV ? > > I have rather limited time for the hobby, most evenings I cannot > spend all time listening. > > > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > > > At 04:20 9/11/2009, you wrote: > >>500 kHz TA enthusiasts > >> > >>Suprisingly good TA conditions of late. Had nice QSO (cw) with > Finbar, EI0CF, last night and again > >>tonight with good signals reports both directions. These QSOs are > about a month earlier than those > >>of the past two years. Not sure if it's conditions or that we > just didn't attempt it early enough > >>last year. > >> > >>Jack, VX9ZZZ in Nova Scotia has also been in QSO with Finbar and > reports hearing other EU stations > >>besides Finbar even well before his sunset. I've heard Jack > calling CQ evenings starting around NS > >>sunset on 504 kHz and he tunes the band looking for answers. > >> > >>Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > >>506.5 kHz > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC074-b3c4af6717c2dc; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 02:21:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC088-b3c4af6717c2dc; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 02:21:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N724L-0004Ud-4d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:20:13 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N724K-0004UU-J0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:20:12 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f211.google.com ([209.85.220.211]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N724G-0002lm-W6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:20:12 +0000 Received: by fxm3 with SMTP id 3so687063fxm.4 for ; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:20:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=ZXueK4RFMsi8W/11Q+eTlTwQjb8LRNnyTciz7ZgW3Nc=; b=vFJ0wMiYE+E56/tQkbqfayoh3wwPaT3yIeSUqhS4JJesG5J6Sf8awLEFDn3p2yfcUc 1sADQoINIhoL57rt7BepUpZi9U5kq2iMtuIzNP3Gy0WaClV1qCg1a3FuIE+mg47j1tJ/ riTiUiShB2ihkbee/CN4PEu3hJXXrSs25JQOA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=tBF+ymoQjn7KO1g+/s4v+laD+jajQUDqAFYEuOIbSBSqd0ZUqdm52YOiXJ8wQzMskC MKP6d2mUe1RcuANu8ST8g9vtg+AWie3gaklhvTnvmNMlNEwBftbJu3Bd3nt87kH98Zaj cz4qTxb72KagmfMBTQMEXLX3IxTO14Xo/FUqk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.155.73 with SMTP id r9mr6762725bkw.14.1257664803230; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:20:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 07:20:03 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911072320q7670eef0r8d6de016e2ad4ffc@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, GQRP@yahoogroups.com, Michael Rainey , Jonathan Griffiths , M0BXT , John P-G , k1jt@arrl.net, Jon Bigwood , John Chapman DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: LF: My tiny <2mW ERP 500kHz WSPR station reaches Sweden! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175cfa8ed7d3360477d6e7c5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d232.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0015175cfa8ed7d3360477d6e7c5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi All, SM6BHZ heard me, at last, on 500kHz WSPR at 0556z this morning, so my best DX has now gone up to 951kms with the tiny station. 2009-11-08 05:56 G3XBM 0.503896 -26 0 JO02dg 0.002 *SM6BHZ* JO57wq 951 46 Gus, thank you *so* much for country number 6 on the band and Joe K1JT for designing the software to make this possible. 73s Roger G3XBM -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --0015175cfa8ed7d3360477d6e7c5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All,

SM6BHZ heard me, at last, on 500kHz WSPR at 0556z this morn= ing, so my best DX has now gone up to 951kms with the tiny station.
 
Hi Graham n group
 
Just mail Tony Parks details and costs at......... http://www.kb9yig.com/ =
 
Gl 73 petefmt

--- On Thu, 19/11/09, Graham <= ;g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.= co.uk>=20 wrote:

From:=20 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Subject:=20 LF: Soft Rock for 500 Khz where to buy ??
To: rsgb_lf_group@blackshee= p.org
Date:=20 Thursday, 19 November, 2009, 23:29

All .
 
Where  can a Soft Rock= rx for =20 500  Khz be  purchased from ./
 
Or  do  you = need =20 to  modify a 455 Khz version for 500 ?
If so .. where from a 455khz= version=20 ?
 
Tnx-
 
Graham ..=20


=A02009-11-08 05:56=A0=A0G3XBM=A0=A00.503896=A0 =A0-26=A0=A00=A0=A0JO02dg=A0 =A00.002=A0=A0SM6BHZ=A0=A0JO57wq=A0 =A0951=A0=A046=A0

Gus, thank you so muc= h for country number 6 on the band and Joe K1JT for designing the software= to make this possible.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088
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For determining the µrel of an unknown toroid you wind a few turns on it,measure the inductance,enter the inductance and the physical dimensions of the core into the program and it gives you all you want to know including µrel. And the results are really correct. Very handy with Amidon toroids,too. 73 Clemens DL4RAJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Dodd" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 1:31 PM Subject: LF: Ferrite characteristics > Does anyone know of a method of measuring the characteristics (permeability) of ferrite > cores? I have a box of these most without any identification although I do have T200, 68-2T > and T68-2s whose characteristics are known. > > It occurs to me that you can make a tuned circuit and measure resonance with a GDO when a > ferrite core is inserted into the inductance. A graph could be made of the different > resonances with different cores, to extrapolate the unknowns. > > However I think that ferrite bulk might be a problem. For example I guess the red T cores > use the same material but would there be a difference between the T200 and the T68? > > I have lots of material about ferrites in general - I just want to know what I have in my > junk box. I am not interested in exact measurements, I just want to know if a core is > suitable for a specific job. > > Regards > > Peter, G3LDO > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg11.mx.aol.com (rly-dg11.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.95]) by air-dg02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG022-6044b0165a133; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:46:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG115-6044b0165a133; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:45:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA2ol-00060j-FY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:44:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA2ok-00060a-SN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:44:34 +0000 Received: from imr-db01.mx.aol.com ([205.188.91.95]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA2oj-0000kX-7k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:44:34 +0000 Received: from imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (imo-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.138]) by imr-db01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nAGEiFrw012013 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:44:15 -0500 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id l.d05.6719a07c (29673) for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:44:10 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:44:08 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: F4DTL@aol.com X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: WE2XGR/6 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_d05.6719a07c.3832bf38_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --part1_d05.6719a07c.3832bf38_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1258382647" -------------------------------1258382647 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Jim, F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC7400 Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010 -------------------------------1258382647 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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unimlyn) by mail.toya.net.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CCA1620000085 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:47:24 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4AF7588C.60605@toya.net.pl> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:47:24 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGlvdHIgTcWCeW5hcnNraQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <112811.74996.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <112811.74996.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020609070801010603030904" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------020609070801010603030904 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Osborn wrote: > LF > > It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m. > This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 600m > / 80m. > > > I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for the > WSPR mode was never achieved for hand sent Morse (CW), which after > all is the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF > marine band. > If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stations > operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band then > I guess it may be time for me to QSY. > > 73 Chris G3XIZ > Dear Chris, LF group Congratulations for such a remarkable achievement. it just happend that few days ago i also had my red-letter day but it was my FIRST cross-band qso on 600 meter with Mal, G3KEV . Well, in some way, kind of similarity with respect to the time stamp of those red-letter days and what a BIG difference in the number of qso , hi :) acoording to the wspr issue... the MF band ( not to mention the 136 khz ) due to the official regulations with respect to the ERP power as well as due to the small efficiency of antenna systems is regarded as a 'weak signal band' so , it is not surprising that modern digital communication techniques with very efficient coding come into play.. it must be noted, that wspr gave ( and still does) enormous information about propagation issues , really sets the 'limits' of TX pwr where one can detect (positively decode information) thousands km away ( it is remarkable ,btw) Also, it allows greater number of hams to be active in some way on this band. In my opinion, one should also realize that behind all those 'weak signal mods' there is a beautiful piece of mathematics involved. Of course, there is a price for it. - it is not a qso -like mode contrary to CW or qrss(n) Personaly, i would welcome more stns working/beaconing qrss(n) where the possibility of making qso contact is obviously greater. i did make qso with Mal because i saw/heard him in a qso mode. I also believe that as the time progresses and more countries are allowed to work on this band there will be more live contacts on 500 kcs so Chris DO NOT QSY and for the time being we must all agree on this some sort of coexistence between qso-like and non-qso mods on lf/mf bands 73 de Piotr, sq7mpj qth: Lodz /jo91rs/ --------------020609070801010603030904 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chris Osborn wrote:
LF

It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m.
This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 600m / 80m.


I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for the WSPR mode was never achieved for=C2=A0 hand sent Morse (CW), which after= all is the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF marine band.
If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stations operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band then I guess it may be time for me to QSY.

73 Chris G3XIZ

Dear Chris, LF group
Congratulations for such a remarkable achievement. it just happend that few days ago i=C2=A0 also had my red-letter day
=C2=A0 but it was my FIRST=C2=A0 cross-band qso on 600 meter with Mal,=C2= =A0 G3KEV .
Well, in some way, kind of similarity with respect to the=C2=A0 time stamp of those red-letter days=C2=A0 and what a BIG difference=C2=A0 in the numb= er of qso , hi :)

acoording to the wspr issue...=C2=A0 the MF band=C2=A0 ( not to mention th= e 136 khz )=C2=A0 due to the official regulations=C2=A0 with respect to the ERP= =C2=A0 power as well as due to the small efficiency of=C2=A0 antenna systems is=C2=A0= regarded as a=C2=A0 'weak signal band' so , it is not surprising=C2=A0 that modern= digital communication techniques=C2=A0 with very efficient coding=C2=A0 come into= play.. it must be noted, that wspr gave ( and still does) enormous information=C2=A0 about propagation issues , really sets the 'limits'=C2= =A0 of TX pwr where one can detect (positively decode information) thousands km away ( it is remarkable ,btw)=C2=A0 Also, it allows greater number of=C2= =A0=C2=A0 hams to be=C2=A0 active in some way on this band.
In my opinion, one should also realize=C2=A0 that=C2=A0 behind all those= =C2=A0 'weak signal mods'=C2=A0 there is a beautiful piece of mathematics involved. Of course, there is a price for it. - it is not a qso -like mode contrary to CW or qrss(n)=C2=A0 Personaly, i would welcome more stns working/beaconing qrss(n) where the possibility of making=C2=A0 qso contac= t is obviously greater. i did make qso with Mal because i saw/heard him in a qso mode. I also believe that as the time progresses and more countries are allowed to work on this band=C2=A0 there will be more live contacts on 500 kcs so Chris=C2=A0 DO NOT QSY=C2=A0=C2=A0 and for the time= being we must all agree on=C2=A0 this some sort of coexistence between=C2=A0 qso-li= ke=C2=A0 and non-qso mods on=C2=A0 lf/mf bands

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--------------020609070801010603030904-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD023-b614aed7dde30e; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 07:24:06 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD023-b614aed7dde30e; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 07:24:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N4ZSP-0004Cv-UM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:22:53 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N4ZSP-0004Cm-Gw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:22:53 +0000 Received: from psmtp31.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.33]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N4ZSB-0006vE-51 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:22:41 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp31.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KSF00I4VJPJ31@psmtp31.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 13:22:31 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 13:22:25 +0100 From: henny van elst To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <4AED7637.1040008@inext.at> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: test cpm Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-15; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 tu Ossi,this is the ropex with only one freq,so Ilook for another cristal,this is the wrong freq.,but I work on it, best 73s henny pa3cpm. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oberreiter Oswald" To: Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 12:51 PM Subject: LF: test cpm > hallo henny LF > test cpm > good signal on 136.550 15 dB o.Nois > 73 de ossi > oe5odl jn68rd > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.42/2473 - Release Date: 10/31/09 21:14:00 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df11.mx.aol.com (rly-df11.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.24]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF014-58b4b08419818e; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:38:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF114-58b4b08419818e; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:38:01 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBvle-0000d2-GX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:37:10 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBvle-0000cs-3k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:37:10 +0000 Received: from out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.243]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBvlc-0002YU-As for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:37:10 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAGbQB0tZ8f80/2dsb2JhbADTX4Q8BA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,264,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="245025354" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([89.241.255.52]) by out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 21 Nov 2009 19:36:44 +0000 Message-ID: <00a101ca6ae1$f4bccc00$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <4B07ABA4.4060102@online.fr> <4B082AE0.80607@usa.net> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:36:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Every one else is WRONG except Andy g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" To: Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 7:06 PM Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO And usually based on lack of understanding / ignorance or even prejudice. Andy www.g4jnt.com This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health and safety police 2009/11/21 Alberto di Bene : >> Of course it’s a new and exciting technology, but I doubt that it is on >> one >>> >>> and the same level with a regular exchange and therefore should not be >>> considered equally verifying a valid contact. > > Shades of the recurring and silly debates that every now and then happen on > the Moon-net reflector... > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (rly-ma02.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.46]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA014-8904b0663d7200; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:39:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA022-8904b0663d7200; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:39:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBPwi-00059G-2B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:38:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBPwh-000597-Mn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:38:27 +0000 Received: from out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.243]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBPwh-00067D-0n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:38:27 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap0EAFPyBUtOlrfA/2dsb2JhbACCUYs0BsZJhDsE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,776,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="241147248" Received: from unknown (HELO your91hoehfy9g) ([78.150.183.192]) by out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 20 Nov 2009 09:38:16 +0000 Message-ID: <002001ca69c5$320a73a0$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:38:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 137 DX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001D_01CA69C5.31CECA30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01CA69C5.31CECA30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LF GRP Is there enought acty on this band to justify the effort of getting st= arted. Years ago there was over 30 countries active on cw on the band. I have= 1w erp available and would like to work some dx de mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01CA69C5.31CECA30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_001D_01CA69C5.31CECA30-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (rly-ma07.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.51]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA054-8bd4aff3a8c1ee; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:17:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA077-8bd4aff3a8c1ee; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:17:33 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9RrJ-0001vJ-Dm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:16:45 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9RrJ-0001vA-2j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:16:45 +0000 Received: from smarthost4.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.14]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9RrH-0006mB-9L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:16:45 +0000 Received: from bb-87-82-18-46.ukonline.co.uk ([87.82.18.46] helo=[192.168.0.3]) by smarthost4.mail.uk.easynet.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N9RrG-000KAK-S4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:16:42 +0000 Message-ID: <4AFF3A89.50604@ukonline.co.uk> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:17:29 +0000 From: Peter Dodd User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <287859382.1258239176.158750212.87677@mcgi38.rambler.ru> In-Reply-To: <287859382.1258239176.158750212.87677@mcgi38.rambler.ru> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Grabber is ON Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Roman. 501.05kHz Peter, G3LDO > > My grabber started on up to finished your activity. > qrss.nm.ru -> grabber. > Looking to 501.2-501.36 and 502.0 > Whats a real freq, Peter? > > -- > Roman RW3ADB. > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v125.8) with ESMTP id MAILINMG032-9ff4aee032f29e; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 16:52:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG031-9ff4aee032f29e; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 16:52:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N4iKX-0002JE-S7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 21:51:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N4iKX-0002J5-EK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 21:51:21 +0000 Received: from mcgi72.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.209]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N4iIz-0002rB-QH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 21:49:46 +0000 Received: from mcgi72.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi72.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 129B811576 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 00:51:15 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [81.195.14.9] by mcgi72.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Mon, 02 Nov 2009 00:51:09 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: rsgb Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 00:51:09 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <276313556.1257112269.46863176.15766@mcgi72.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: SM6BGP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Gunnar, LF! Looked your trace when my grabber started. I got solid copy BGP into mode-3 now: http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/2nov2009_SM6BGP/499.6W2_3_00020.jpg 73! -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc10.mx.aol.com (rly-mc10.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.94]) by air-mc06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC064-d9b4af8b8ca36e; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:50:28 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC103-d9b4af8b8ca36e; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:50:19 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7euv-0005GW-AO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:49:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7euu-0005GN-Qd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:49:04 +0000 Received: from mcgi73.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.210]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7eu4-0002vC-Ao for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:48:13 +0000 Received: from mcgi73.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi73.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6CAB11576 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:48:56 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [81.195.13.137] by mcgi73.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:48:56 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:48:56 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <112811.74996.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-Id: <214987839.1257814136.90194536.38791@mcgi73.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Congratulations, Chris! Whats time we are make a 1001 QSO x-band 502 kHz/7030 khz? Roman * Chris Osborn [Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:03:17 +0000 (GMT)]: > LF > > It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m. > This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 600m / > 80m. > > Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0CF > - No. 998. > > QSO break-down according to mode: 928 CW, 34 RTTY and 5 QRSS > > 600m STATIONS > > My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many > of these go back to the start of the UK 600m allocation in March 2007. > Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding > beacons). > Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of > again: G3KZU, G3YHV . . . > Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT: G3UNT, > G3VTT, G4GDR. . . > > MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED > > With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the same > stations many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of my total > contacts. > My most frequently worked stations are: > > GW3UEP - 120 G3KEV - 102 M0FMT - 90 G3ZWH - 80 (alas now > SK) > G3DXZ - 67 G4GDR - 60 EI0CF/ GI4DPE - 51 M0JXM - 48 > G3UNT - 45 G3VTT - 38 > > CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS > > There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a > cross-band QSO: > DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . . > > and our few EU MF friends are still active: > ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . . > > WSPR ON 600m > > I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for the > WSPR mode was never achieved for hand sent Morse (CW), which after all > is the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF marine > band. > If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stations > operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band then I > guess it may be time for me to QSY. > > 73 Chris G3XIZ > > > -- Roman RW3ADB. 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[fistscw] [OT]Rowley Shears,= G8KW, SK

Thursday, 19= November, 2009 15:01
From:
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Rowley Shears, G8KW, SK

The RSGB has learned with great sadnes= s that Rowley Shears BEM, G8KW, passed
away on Tuesday 17 November 2009= . Responsible for re-introducing amateur radio
into Germany after the= second world war, he was perhaps best known for his KW
range of amateu= r equipment from the 1950s to the 1970s. Through KW Electronics
and the= KW2000 transceiver, he was largely responsible for popularising SSB inthe British amateur community. Rowley passed away peacefully at the ripe= old age
of 90.

 2009-11-14 23:14   OR2ELN   0.503908   -33   0   MF03   501   G0NBD   IO83   11740   326 
 
Just  decoded ?
 
tnx - G
 


------=_NextPart_000_000D_01CA6584.FE5EE200-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df03.mx.aol.com (rly-df03.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.16]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDF053-53b4b13aa87245; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 06:20:50 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF034-53b4b13aa87245; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 06:20:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NF4IN-00064s-VV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:19:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NF4IN-00064f-8T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:19:55 +0000 Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com ([205.188.105.147]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NF4IJ-0008Pv-QL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:19:55 +0000 Received: from imo-da04.mx.aol.com (imo-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.202]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nAUBJZKP032740 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 06:19:35 -0500 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-da04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id l.c23.67d3fa2c (43999) for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 06:19:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from Black (g229164008.adsl.alicedsl.de [92.229.164.8]) by cia-dd06.mx.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILCIADD068-abdf4b13aa439f; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 06:19:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCC9C19DE674B15A385181E7EFC37C1@Black> From: "Markus Vester" To: Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:19:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16669 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: MarkusVester@aol.com X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Grabber improvements Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002A_01CA71B7.5E015560" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01CA71B7.5E015560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear LF Group, my LF colour-DF grabber has recently become five years old, and I felt= it could do with a little refurbishment. It now updates more frequent= ly, the fullband window scrolls slightly faster and shows a wider QRSS= strip. I hope you may find this useful. The URL is still the same http://freenet-homepage.de/df6nm/Grabber.htm , and there is a mirror at http://www.alice-dsl.net/df6nm/grabber/Grabber.htm . 73 de Markus, DF6NM ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01CA71B7.5E015560 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear LF Group,
 
my LF colour-DF grabber has rece= ntly=20 become five years old, and I felt it could do with a=20 little refurbishment. It now updates more frequently,= the=20 fullband window scrolls slightly faster and shows a wider QRSS=20 strip. I hope you&nbs= p;may find this=20 useful.
 
The URL is still the same
and there is a mirror at
 
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(VPS 091117-0, 17-11-2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 3.6 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Fw: LF: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Holy Mother! Henrique - CT1HX IM58gr ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 2:49 PM Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6 > Party to an offence? > > Warren Ziegler wrote: >> Lighten up Scott! >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Scott Tilley wrote: >> >>> The first illegal ON-VX QSO. >>> >>> >>> >>> Rik Strobbe wrote: >>> >>>> Gary, All, >>>> >>>> yesterday I could copy VX9MRC in QRSS3 with a surprising strong signal >>>> as >>>> early as 18 UTC, when I launched Argo. >>>> Throughout the evening the signal was strong and with little QSB from >>>> 19-22UTC, after that the signal became weaker with much more QSB. >>>> Probably because I had a sked with Joe at 22:40 UTC ;-) . >>>> But despite all we managed to complete the QSO with both way M report >>>> (would have been a solid O earlier the evening). >>>> A first ON-VE QSO on 500kHz and with +/- 4075km a new DX record for me >>>> Joe transmitted on 507.770 and I on 501.190. >>>> Between 19 and 22 UTC the signal was audible most of the time and would >>>> have been CW copy if it were not squeezed between the NDB "Z" carrier >>>> at >>>> 507.980 (S9+ here) the SM6BHZ CW/SSB test transmissions (up to S9) and >>>> a >>>> local birdie on 507.600. >>>> >>>> For the QSO I was running 300W into my 11m high / 25m long lazy-L >>>> antenna, >>>> estimated ERP about 1.5 Watt (at best, if the greenery does not absorb >>>> too >>>> much) >>>> >>>> The night from Sunday - Monday I left Argo running, VX9MRC produced a >>>> good signal all through the night and faded out at 07UTC. This would >>>> mean >>>> that there is a potential transatlantic path on 500kHz for 13h a day >>>> !!! >>>> >>>> 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >>>> >>>> At 17:05 16/11/2009, you wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi All, >>>>> >>>>> Good signals from both stations last night. >>>>> >>>>> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db02.mx.aol.com (rly-db02.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.77]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB083-ab14b0274ba16c; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:02:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB027-ab14b0274ba16c; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:02:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAKsS-0001Ua-NK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:01:36 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAKsS-0001UR-3U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:01:36 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAKsQ-0006M0-DT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:01:36 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F1B07B8056 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:01:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from PC_van_Rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-106.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.106]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC59031E704 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:01:00 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:01:01 +0100 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <1f0624b90911170146i3b3201abh55b54fd75e56fa50@mail.gmail.co m> References: <1f0624b90911160805u4435bd18ue805924594d8b997@mail.gmail.com> <20091117081718.BDD6EF3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> <1f0624b90911170146i3b3201abh55b54fd75e56fa50@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091117100100.CC59031E704@smtps01.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_10_20=0.945,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_8302466==.ALT" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --=====================_8302466==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Gary, sure. Condx were very poor during our QSO. If propagation is good (as it was from 20-22UTC) far less than 1 Watt ERP might do the job. In addition you are most likely at a better location for VO in the north of England. Few days ago Finbar worked Joe in CW with 559-579 reports while i could barely hear Joe. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T At 10:46 17/11/2009, you wrote: >Rik, > >Well done. > >I should be in a position to attempt the same as I saw solid QRS >signals from Joe. > >Gary - G4WGT. > >2009/11/17 Rik Strobbe ><rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> >Gary, All, > >yesterday I could copy VX9MRC in QRSS3 with a surprising strong >signal as early as 18 UTC, when I launched Argo. >Throughout the evening the signal was strong and with little QSB >from 19-22UTC, after that the signal became weaker with much more QSB. >Probably because I had a sked with Joe at 22:40 UTC ;-) . >But despite all we managed to complete the QSO with both way M >report (would have been a solid O earlier the evening). >A first ON-VE QSO on 500kHz and with +/- 4075km a new DX record for me >Joe transmitted on 507.770 and I on 501.190. >Between 19 and 22 UTC the signal was audible most of the time and >would have been CW copy if it were not squeezed between the NDB "Z" >carrier at 507.980 (S9+ here) the SM6BHZ CW/SSB test transmissions >(up to S9) and a local birdie on 507.600. > >For the QSO I was running 300W into my 11m high / 25m long lazy-L >antenna, estimated ERP about 1.5 Watt (at best, if the greenery does >not absorb too much) > >The night from Sunday - Monday I left Argo running, VX9MRC produced >a good signal all through the night and faded out at 07UTC. This >would mean that there is a potential transatlantic path on 500kHz >for 13h a day !!! > >73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > >At 17:05 16/11/2009, you wrote: >Hi All, > >Good signals from both stations last night. > >Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo. > > > --=====================_8302466==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Gary,

sure.
Condx were very poor during our QSO.
If propagation is good (as it was from 20-22UTC) far less than 1 Watt ERP might do the job.
In addition you are most likely at a better location for VO in the north of England.
Few days ago Finbar worked Joe in CW with 559-579 reports while i could barely hear Joe.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

At 10:46 17/11/2009, you wrote:
Rik,

Well done.

I should be in a position to attempt the same as I saw solid QRS signals from Joe.

Gary - G4WGT.

2009/11/17 Rik Strobbe < rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
Gary, All,

yesterday I could copy VX9MRC in QRSS3 with a surprising strong signal as early as 18 UTC, when I launched Argo.
Throughout the evening the signal was strong and with little QSB from 19-22UTC, after that the signal became weaker with much more QSB.
Probably because I had a sked with Joe at 22:40 UTC ;-) .
But despite all we managed to complete the QSO with both way M report (would have been a solid O earlier the evening).
A first ON-VE QSO on 500kHz and with +/- 4075km a new DX record for me
Joe transmitted on 507.770 and I on 501.190.
Between 19 and 22 UTC the signal was audible most of the time and would have been CW copy if it were not squeezed between the NDB "Z" carrier at 507.980 (S9+ here) the SM6BHZ CW/SSB test transmissions (up to S9) and a local birdie on 507.600.

For the QSO I was running 300W into my 11m high / 25m long lazy-L antenna, estimated ERP about 1.5 Watt (at best, if the greenery does not absorb too much)

The night from Sunday - Monday I left Argo running,  VX9MRC produced a good signal all through the night and faded out at 07UTC. This would mean that there is a potential transatlantic path on 500kHz for 13h a day !!!

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

At 17:05 16/11/2009, you wrote:
Hi All,

Good signals from both stations last night.

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.



--=====================_8302466==.ALT-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma10.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMA102-8c84b140c2133b; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:17:08 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA092-8c84b140c2133b; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:17:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NFAnJ-0007ox-Gl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:16:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NFAnJ-0007oo-4E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:16:17 +0000 Received: from smtp829.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.13.164]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NFAnI-0002bZ-IV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:16:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 74207 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2009 18:16:10 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=Iksa6gmAp7C5nscy4nP5fyNCQ28YPz1vwU7euhEW3+MvBjQ81732C/lgEqELAo4mWkAbb0GUcC8zOmszOuzpiKHV5b9WTyJBqzv4zhBV6oY7nekIsEXtFxjA34+ucaho1pfn52dRXxGVmHxqOOAkwcTHpeRNnt70l/AywWZz3TE= ; Received: from unknown (HELO IBM7FFA209F07C) (c.ashby435@86.171.33.4 with login) by smtp829.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Nov 2009 18:16:10 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: 9STUSnaswBBSd6nO_2gAC20jmYlWRjmg8d5iYd8s.rl181aR6Sw- X-YMail-OSG: HL_tw3oVM1kQkfK7hn9RPSHgIcdBMMthUXdrnDfXGKlST7Cs.VLzIHx1dvfRKeZYfR43.MOJp8lsMyX_jp3R1O_RdTNoH6Rnb0NIf1ZCPli8BWrFjh983ExqBEvLLBEMeZkU7wq9OyCGeTCCgInbnW5kZEzwq1pQPqB_b0ZOL7I9NCHr0RdZc5.GGmFZX7ncJP0Beuk.Rbhuru2FnhkvGJY9zjFqEfiTGy12T5Z5rXd46xFRRvZWigGqAVzxTdH8rgSSQxwzzV8q1UhfredCWwlJSKrYAQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "Chris" To: References: <1259600322.2708.33.camel@gerhard-desktop> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:16:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: LF: Re: Testtransmission 137,685 OE3GHB Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 QRSS3?? Will look for you. 73,G4AYT. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerhard Hickl" To: Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 4:58 PM Subject: LF: Testtransmission 137,685 OE3GHB > Hi all! > > In the moment I'm trying to test my TX and my antenna. I'm going to > transmit from 1800z to 2000z today. Probably a bit longer. > > My Antenna is a Marconi, 12m vertically/top-loaded. The loading coil is > about 2,4 mH and antenna input is about 35 Watts. > > The QRG will be 137,685 and the text is "TEST OE3GHB" repeated every 10 > Minutes. My VFO is also still in development-state an so QRG could vary > some cps. > > Please take the time and try to receive my signal. Reports are very > appreciated. Thank you in advance. > > 73 and cheers > > OE3GHB > Gerhard > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df07.mx.aol.com (rly-df07.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.20]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF051-5634b03cfaf215; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:42:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF074-5634b03cfaf215; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:42:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAhyy-0001iO-4j for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:41:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAhyx-0001iF-Kt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:41:51 +0000 Received: from smtp23.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAhyw-0006mZ-RD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:41:51 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2313.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5543C7000093 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:41:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (153.180.192-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.192.180.153]) by msfrf2313.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 105BB7000094 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:41:42 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091118104143670.105BB7000094@msfrf2313.sfr.fr Message-ID: <001001ca683b$be6c2cc0$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:41:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091117-1, 17/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.8 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUB_HELLO=1.76 Subject: LF: hello man's Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01CA6844.1FC7C0D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, SUB_HELLO autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01CA6844.1FC7C0D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HI LF=20 opening the Beacon for eventualy swl 137705hz qrss3 the control's is welcome many thanks=20 Claude F8boj JN16WA ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01CA6844.1FC7C0D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_000D_01CA6844.1FC7C0D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db02.mx.aol.com (rly-db02.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.77]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB083-aac4b0656fe187; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:45:00 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB022-aac4b0656fe187; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:44:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBP4V-0004kQ-5x for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:42:27 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBP4R-0004kE-Eu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:42:23 +0000 Received: from smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com ([195.200.78.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBP4O-0007ba-1F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:42:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 6061 invoked by uid 507); 20 Nov 2009 09:42:05 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO JR) (john.rabson@numeo.fr@217.67.155.178) by smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com with SMTP; 20 Nov 2009 09:42:05 +0100 Message-ID: <200911200942130317.1443B400@smtp2.numeo.fr> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:42:13 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Soft Rock for 500 Khz where to buy ?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Graham, Please see below from M0BMU. 73 John F5VLF *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 19/11/2009 at 23:29 Graham wrote: >All . > >Where can a Soft Rock rx for 500 Khz be purchased from ./ > >Or do you need to modify a 455 Khz version for 500 ? >If so .. where from a 455khz version ? > >Tnx-=20 > >Graham .. BEGINS On 09/07/2007 at 18:30 James Moritz wrote: >Dear LF Group, > >I don't claim any great originality for this, but I have modified a coupl= e >of the SoftRock Lite v6.2 kits by KB9YIG for use on 136k and 500k - the >details are attached. > >I changed the local oscillators to 4MHz for 500k and 1MHz for 136k, with >the >"x8" jumper set. This gives nominal LO frequencies of 500kHz and 125kHz >respectively, putting the output frequency within the range of a sound >card. >At 4MHz, the existing SoftRock LO circuit just about works, but it didn't >on >1MHz. I made some component value changes to the oscillator and buffer to >get a reasonable waveform on each band, which are detailed in the >attachment. 4MHz crystals are easy to get - I had several 1MHz xtals in= my >junk box, but these seem to be harder to buy now than they once were. An >alternative for 136k would be to use a 1MHz DIL oscillator module, feedin= g >the flip-flop directly. Another possibility is a 500kHz ceramic resonator= , >but the stability is not as good as a crystal. > >The original input filter could be re-designed for the LF/MF range, but= the >components wouldn't fit on the tiny board, and the rejection of broadcast >band signals would not really be good enough. So I designed off-board inp= ut >filters with higher rejection of signals at harmonics of the LO frequency= . >Like the original design, these require no adjustment and use fixed value >components - values are given in the attachment. I used 1/2-watt resistor >sixed axial-leaded chokes on 500kHz, which were fine. Similar components >had >insufficient Q at 136k, but the larger radial-leaded chokes wound on a >ferrite bobbin were adequate..The original tuned mixer input balun >transformer is replaced with an un-tuned ferrite-cored transformer. > >I have used the two SoftRocks with I2PHD's "Winrad" software, and DL4YHF'= s >SpecLab, both with excellent results. The Rocky software does not like th= e >PCs I have available. The sensitivity is not quite as good as my other >receivers, but since I normally use a preamp with various receiving loops= , >this is not important. The sensitivity should be adequate when used with= a >TX type antenna. It is important to set up the amplitude and phase balanc= e >carefully, especially on 136kHz, where there is a lot of Loran noise in= the >image sideband. > >Let me know if you have any problems viewing the attached schematic, > >Cheers, Jim Moritz >73 de M0BMU ENDS From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD104-9024b06bdcf313; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:03:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD052-9024b06bdcf313; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:03:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBVw2-0007HR-DP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:02:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBVw2-0007HH-1x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:02:10 +0000 Received: from out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.242]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBVw0-0000Tf-0x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:02:10 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgcFAM5LBktcHdDq/2dsb2JhbACCJiuGS4RqBsZ1hDwE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,778,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="252598689" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.29.208.234]) by out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 20 Nov 2009 16:01:58 +0000 Message-ID: <003601ca69fa$c9f7c840$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:01:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: OH1TN Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0033_01CA69FA.C9B037F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01CA69FA.C9B037F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OH1TN active 137.7 dfcw also a F3 stn cq =20 de g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01CA69FA.C9B037F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
OH1TN   active 137.7= dfcw also a=20 F3 stn cq
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0033_01CA69FA.C9B037F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb07.mx.aol.com (rly-mb07.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.165]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB024-d154af70b17c4; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:17:01 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB071-d154af70b17c4; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:16:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7CIv-00081D-56 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:15:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7CIu-000814-PX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:15:56 +0000 Received: from out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.237]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7CHx-0001jk-Lq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:14:58 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: As4EADeZ9kpcHccI/2dsb2JhbACCIy2BaYlDBssahD4E X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,704,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="79920842" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([92.29.199.8]) by out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 08 Nov 2009 18:15:49 +0000 Message-ID: <026601ca609f$82671260$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:15:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: TREES Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0263_01CA609F.80109F40" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0263_01CA609F.80109F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable According to some USA stn they thread and hang their loops through tre= e branches. This info has appeared in the past on this reflector.=20 Are UK trees different from those in the USA ? Apart from me no one else in the UK seemed to think this was a problem= !! G3KEV =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0263_01CA609F.80109F40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
According to some USA stn they thread= and=20 hang their loops through tree branches. This info has appeared in= the past=20 on this reflector.
Are UK trees different from thos= e in the USA=20 ?
Apart from me no one else in the UK= seemed to think=20 this was a problem !!
G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_0263_01CA609F.80109F40-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da06.mx.aol.com (rly-da06.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.80]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA093-a774b0089212ac; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:05:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA067-a774b0089212ac; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:05:07 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9o8r-00032P-3O for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:04:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9o8q-000327-Dy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:04:20 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9o8p-0003nw-RW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:04:20 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3532.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 190971C00085 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:04:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3532.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0B18B1C00086 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:04:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.53.205]) by mwinf3532.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id C1CCC1C00085 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:04:13 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091115230413794.C1CCC1C00085@mwinf3532.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <1043CB7D895D4161B1C87CDD140332A2@AGB> <0CADF4DD71FD43A2A8384463754F6344@AGB> <4B005411.4010506@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <1C14999758D149228277CBBC2446F1D7@AGB> <4B006812.7010101@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <1A8E7857A7294C39AA873BDC76A001D8@AGB> <4B007F8D.2090707@sighthound.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4B007F8D.2090707@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:04:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Running mW wspr Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Typical hihi .. Just a couple of decodes from Jim at near the noise floor ....I will revert to normal running for a while before qrt noted last night the Faroe islands where reporting .. but quite a drop from your s/n level .. looks like you are just at the right skip distance ? 73 - G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "John P-G" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 10:24 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Running mW wspr > > Graham wrote: >> Not a beep ... >> Set power to 200 mW as of 22-05 > > Condx seem to have taken a bit of a dive over the last hour or so. > > Thanks for trying. > > John > GM4SLV > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb03.mx.aol.com (rly-mb03.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.161]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB022-cfa4b0808cb1b3; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:35:48 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB036-cfa4b0808cb1b3; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:35:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBrz3-0006a0-2H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:34:45 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBrz2-0006Zr-Kw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:34:44 +0000 Received: from web28108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.128]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBrz2-0001Ts-G9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:34:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 45589 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Nov 2009 15:34:39 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1258817679; bh=aSXe80FjCcv4RRjtgs/ds6jnFuHemzI9WIz8EsUrK1s=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tPtooVCM8MFGroiwx3gJkVRWOiHYdqudwjFg69D1PMK+JX53Yn9UADue18rEF5lVZauIpxIMQ2fg9Tjma5QK4revR/LWS2ZXYHZzKdbofGhH21g8OWFjB5TS+tRlEIPSDHQ9Z7qthUd52nLSYT8tk2fd0pJhvso2aNJoRo3nuYY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5Y0ZZ68EYF10udBQVfNNm8DZFjO+51dvjqLlTMMPcQ7Hw/zdvpNSzHPIuUOtqN1P28NrYxE97Hl94Z8k6N9AcHDU42X2VpQG25JFnCUsx0Cn+aAHjQRMA5g5hck52QUhG/sYX4to9v46duOpXmS8blZm/6KZ1nNFENehm47K4BY=; Message-ID: <129119.45578.qm@web28108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: JHOmiLkVM1leDe_Viq5X1lLhFBCSCUeC2Un8aJZMIxqdGma6NIkhgzF0c6XNQO6KYiCjCQFBfmUKAz17lvdu2cCmZxuhLkdCiGQDMOXLwIHO.JcswKdBMFWAxJdddlTdGsCjqdLTeIex0Cbm2z9ZnPoN1q50xYqcParRdq88SPZ5Lk9TIluLDabJhIu0LmSr1h1bkRtTfjdINMpPHCtIuiXxnaYZ8pWazt8_sO77BSAyAA4ibHE83blMbiZalihauZdqoPNFqYYQXuI001mbcmx.gWloQkHuJni2xp1Ye80jC4t5QibW1kMQRqVPP6gDKVGqO9S_Af0SSQ-- Received: from [86.140.72.176] by web28108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 07:34:38 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 07:34:38 -0800 (PST) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <005d01ca6abd$476e88f0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: SOFTROCK Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1931950020-1258817678=:45578" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m225.1 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-1931950020-1258817678=:45578 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0 Now there's a good offer John! =A0 73 petefmt --- On Sat, 21/11/09, mal hamilton wrote: From: mal hamilton Subject: LF: SOFTROCK To: "rsgb" Date: Saturday, 21 November, 2009, 15:14 I have a spare Softrock V6.2 RX/TX kit for 160m and could easily be modifi= ed for 500 Khz de mal/g3kev =A0 =20 --0-1931950020-1258817678=:45578 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Now there's a good offer John!
 
73 petefmt

--- On Sat, 21/11/09, mal hamilton <g3kevm= al@talktalk.net> wrote:

From: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net&g= t;
Subject: LF: SOFTROCK
To: "rsgb" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= >
Date: Saturday, 21 November, 2009, 15:14

I have a spare Softrock V6.2 RX/TX kit fo= r 160m and could easily be modified for 500 Khz
de mal/g3kev
 

=20 --0-1931950020-1258817678=:45578-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (rly-ma06.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.50]) by air-ma10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA102-8b24af4d905305; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:18:49 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA064-8b24af4d905305; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:18:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6aqd-0007lY-RM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 02:16:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6aqd-0007lP-DN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 02:16:15 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s7.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.18]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6aqa-0006pK-5w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 02:16:14 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W27 ([65.55.116.7]) by blu0-omc1-s7.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 6 Nov 2009 18:16:04 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [189.176.117.197] From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China To: Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 17:16:03 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Nov 2009 02:16:04.0056 (UTC) FILETIME=[41DDD580:01CA5F50] X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_ed03a485-282c-463a-8e7e-7d29d79b8a08_" Subject: RE: LF: 10 mW ERP Beacon X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_40_50, HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_ed03a485-282c-463a-8e7e-7d29d79b8a08_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gus the Alaska receiver still sitting on the WSPR section for you and othe= rs! good luck. =20 Laurence XE KL1 X mobile =20 From: begu@algonet.se To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 00:49:26 +0100 Subject: LF: 10 mW ERP Beacon Hi LF, =20 tonight i run beacon WSPR with only 10 mW ERP. This test will run all night. =20 73 de Gus SM6BHZ =20 www.sm6bhz.com =20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=3D9690331&ocid=3DPID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL= :en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009=3D --_ed03a485-282c-463a-8e7e-7d29d79b8a08_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gus the Alaska receiver still sitting on the WSPR section for you and othe= rs! good luck.
 
Laurence
XE KL1 X mobile
 
From: begu@algonet.se
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Sat, 7= Nov 2009 00:49:26 +0100
Subject: LF: 10 mW ERP Beacon

Hi LF,
 
tonight i run beacon WSPR with only 10 mW= ERP.
This test will run all night.<= /STRONG>
 
73 de Gus SM6BHZ
 
 
 

Windows 7: Unclutter you= r desktop. Lea= rn more. =3D --_ed03a485-282c-463a-8e7e-7d29d79b8a08_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (rly-ma02.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.46]) by air-ma08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA083-8934af6e8531ba; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:48:43 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA025-8934af6e8531ba; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:48:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N79zU-000722-0p for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:47:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N79zT-00071t-LF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:47:43 +0000 Received: from smtp21.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.2]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N79yW-00016V-2f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:46:44 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2126.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E735D7000098 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:47:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (222.43.196-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.196.43.222]) by msfrf2126.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 9CE217000097 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:47:34 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091108154734642.9CE217000097@msfrf2126.sfr.fr Message-ID: <000e01ca608a$ca40acf0$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:47:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091108-0, 08/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: qrss10....test f8boj Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA6093.2BAA71D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA6093.2BAA71D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi LF test qrss10 now good signal for G3YXM=20 many thanks for your grabber good evening all claude f8boj JN16WA ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA6093.2BAA71D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi LF
test qrss10 now good signal for G3YXM=
many thanks for your grabber
good evening all
claude f8boj JN16WA
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA6093.2BAA71D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA072-a794b01188d35f; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 04:17:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA071-a794b01188d35f; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 04:17:07 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9xYe-0004E3-ON for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:07:36 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9xYb-0004Du-Al for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:07:33 +0000 Received: from mcgi38.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.217]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9xYW-00050U-IO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:07:31 +0000 Received: from mcgi38.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi38.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB2091146B for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:07:22 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [91.77.88.87] by mcgi38.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:07:17 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:07:17 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <118539074.1258323511.44388760.23420@mcgi76.rambler.ru> Message-Id: <814669796.1258362437.164757368.99545@mcgi38.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF:SP2KDS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Marcin, LF! TNX for attempt to tx in QRSS-60. You'll see I rx your "S" only. Full report into 136 part qrss.nm.ru as usual. * Roman RW3ADB [Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:18:31 +0300]: > > Hi Marcin, LF! > Poor trace 137.706.0 into mode-10 into my location today > http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2009/16nov2009_SP2KDS/135.58W_10_00035.jpg > 73! -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc01.mx.aol.com (rly-mc01.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.85]) by air-mc05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC051-d574af2b8b1255; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:36:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC017-d574af2b8b1255; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:36:19 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N60cW-0001Mn-QM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:35:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N60cW-0001Me-C5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:35:16 +0000 Received: from mx01.infotech.at ([213.174.240.1]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N60cU-00069Q-46 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:35:16 +0000 Received: from [213.174.255.68] by mx01.infotech.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N60cT-0007M9-4A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:35:13 +0100 Message-ID: <4AF2B89D.6040001@inext.at> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:35:57 +0100 From: Oberreiter Oswald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001901ca5dfa$4e55bf50$0201a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> In-Reply-To: <001901ca5dfa$4e55bf50$0201a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: dk7fc.....f8boj beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) HI Claude strong signal today here 20 db over nois ! 73 de ossi oe5odl Claude Berthebaud schrieb: > HI LF and DK7FC > Hello stefan open the beacon to day for 137705.0hz qrss3 > very good day > Claude F8boj JN16WA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb03.mx.aol.com (rly-mb03.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.161]) by air-mb07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB073-cf84aef35af3b; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:40:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB034-cf84aef35af3b; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:40:33 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N52kG-00011A-7b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:39:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N52kF-000111-QS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:39:15 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N52im-0001lO-Oe for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:37:45 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so6881533bwz.4 for ; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 11:39:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=T/qKGQ6MsLGvvrGfEBWbGqCVjM5owDzVaGZ/rxJdLV4=; b=xe/Xjovcfp8tV9VetW1G7q1cOfofeMUlpHdMZAL5yBedw8kAchFNTOs+Jz1yDraOD3 YarBWrSKlQasfb0qhi56vwthJCElkIUSd/p8t+j0q0ZjV7z8s2WD0ENFpQkuyNd/h09v r1KEgmn+I+XGPZ8WA1FY1KK3HwXcSh4cqD3ww= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=kwj2TxRXLcBTHgiKj+oo3YeUb9OQYpt8/SS6GXYb7Kd96Yyt3M34Q9g50ss13FvkzQ r693yibADiDbuhoITv5c62BJD3EZCkW50BE7pboSRUsoMBq43rirUMEVnG4X6gyXDOGo Wg7SdPGe6lsixqBiaOD2YBLmR/cR7nS99D4a8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.150.76 with SMTP id x12mr964421bkv.30.1257190748682; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 11:39:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4AEF15CA.24356.160823@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> References: <4AEF15CA.24356.160823@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 19:39:08 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911021139j1be380f0o1d76d293bb8b5764@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_10_20=0.945,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 'LF Today' Errors Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175dd9c6fd7cd604776887d5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m289.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0015175dd9c6fd7cd604776887d5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Mike (et al), As an owner of the 1st edition of LF Today may I thank you for this most helpful little book; there has been much in it that I've enjoyed and used as sources of information. I do hope a new version is produced in due course. Maybe the next edition will include something about WSPR and how effective results may be achieved, on 500kHz at least, with a *totally* simple station set-up like my own running just microwatts ERP. The only error/confusion I spotted is on p81 (of the 1st edition) when it talks about current transformers. There is something screwy here when working out the current in the secondary. 73s Roger G3XBM ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --0015175dd9c6fd7cd604776887d5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike (et al),

As an owner of the 1st edition of LF Today may I than= k you for this most helpful little book; there has been much in it that I&= #39;ve enjoyed and used as sources of information. I do hope a new version= is produced in due course.

Maybe the next edition will include something about WSPR and how effec= tive results may be achieved, on 500kHz at least, with a totally si= mple station set-up like my own running just microwatts ERP.

The on= ly error/confusion I spotted is on p81 (of the 1st edition) when it talks= about current transformers. There is something screwy here when working= out the current in the secondary.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088
--0015175dd9c6fd7cd604776887d5-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da09.mx.aol.com (rly-da09.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.83]) by air-da04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA042-a8a4aff6cdc4b; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:52:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA092-a8a4aff6cdc4b; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:52:14 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9VCZ-0002wh-85 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 02:50:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9VCY-0002wY-Mh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 02:50:54 +0000 Received: from mcgi73.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.210]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9VCX-0000p9-QC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 02:50:54 +0000 Received: from mcgi73.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi73.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id A602711521 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:50:47 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [81.195.15.97] by mcgi73.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:50:42 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:50:42 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: Message-Id: <710152697.1258253442.86168408.14505@mcgi73.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 137kHz grabber in SP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Jacek, LF! Congratulation with the grabber started! Put your QTH locator to the page next time. And put "offset" to Spectrum lab pse for the screening a real freq rule. * Jacek Lipkowski [Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:38:59 +0100 (CET)]: > I've set up a temporary 137kHz grabber. QTH is Warsaw, Poland KO02md. RX > is an ex-DDR EKV03 with a mini-whip active antenna. Currently it is set > for QRSS3. It is in a nice mid-point between active grabbers in DL and > RU. > > The url is http://acid.ch.pw.edu.pl/~sq5bpf/grabber/ > > This area has high qrm, so if you see yourself on the grabber - > congratulations :) > > I will leave it on all night in case anyone is interested, later it will > be avaliable upon request. > > VY 73 > > Jacek / SQ5BPF > > 73! -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (rly-mg10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.116]) by air-mg02.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMG023-a3c4b1276353bd; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:25:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG106-a3c4b1276353bd; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:25:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEjl6-0000yI-KY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:24:12 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEjl6-0000y9-3l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:24:12 +0000 Received: from smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com ([195.200.78.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEjl4-0002Ua-LI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:24:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 27084 invoked by uid 507); 29 Nov 2009 14:23:56 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO JR) (john.rabson@numeo.fr@217.67.155.178) by smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2009 14:23:56 +0100 Message-ID: <200911291424030643.0A425BB7@smtp2.numeo.fr> In-Reply-To: <4B126AF9.3050300@ntlworld.com> References: <2746F3E144D3480AB85CD466920B1313@lindavideo> <003001ca70e7$24aaf3a0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <003c01ca70eb$0aa52120$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <4B126AF9.3050300@ntlworld.com> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:24:03 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv diode Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 With modern devices, do you still need equalising networks? John F5VLF *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 29/11/2009 at 12:37 David Towers wrote: >Hi Mal >surely "in series" to give a 4 KV diode at 1amp ? >dave G8SZX > > > >mal hamilton wrote: >> Ken >> On the serious side, use 6 x 1Kvolt @ 1A in parallel if u are stuck. >> Don't get zapped >> 73 mal/g3kev >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* mal hamilton >> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> >> *Sent:* Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:28 AM >> *Subject:* LF: Re: 4kv diode >> >> Electric Chair Co >> Zapenda Cul de sac >> Hellda State >> Zip73 >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Ken >> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> >> *Sent:* Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:04 AM >> *Subject:* LF: 4kv diode >> >> Hello All. >> I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or equivalent diode, BY4 4kv @ >> 1A, BY6 6kv @ 1A, I have searched the web and looked in >> Farnell, any ideas please. >> >> 73. >> Ken >> >> M0KHW >> From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (rly-dg10.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.94]) by air-dg05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG054-5f74b0cf789261; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:23:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG102-5f74b0cf789261; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:23:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDE4s-0001ab-PC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:22:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDE4s-0001aS-6z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:22:22 +0000 Received: from psmtp30.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.32]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDE4q-0000vD-9F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:22:22 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp30.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KTN007T7RCYAN@psmtp30.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:22:10 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:21:45 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: XKO 25-11.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ADSdq/Xx7JoneJ+XKBRlxA)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --Boundary_(ID_ADSdq/Xx7JoneJ+XKBRlxA) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_c0wV+RQ/SXoAwMVdXjwT0w)" --Boundary_(ID_c0wV+RQ/SXoAwMVdXjwT0w) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi LF, Capture XKO, Henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: XKO 25-11.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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Hi LF,
Capture XKO,
Henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.51,0.52 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Stainless steel versus copper Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0054_01CA5F9E.EB1B0B10" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0054_01CA5F9E.EB1B0B10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Wolf, Regarding steel wire losses depend highly on the kind of steel and on the kind of antenna (resonant or not). Magnetic steel should be avoided because its µrel is unknown and changes over frequency. On shortwave I've measured a factor of ~13 steel vs copper for *rf* losses of a 2mm steel antenna litz wire, manufactured by a former German antenna producer (Fritzel). This closely matches with numbers found in Gerd Janzen's book "Kurze Antennen". Therefore the efficiency for a half wave dipole is about 89% (0,5dB) and 84% (0,76dB) for a fullwave loop made of this type of steel. Losses of steel antenna wire really become detrimental if you use short antennas because of the low radiation resistance. So for MW/LW,where most of us have extremely short antenas in terms of wavelength steel wire is not advisable for antennas. Losses of feeders made of steel,with reasonable diameter (say 2mm) are in the same range as with resonant dipoles or resonant loops,i.e. neglectable for our purposes. 73 Clemens DL4RAJ ----- Original Message ----- From: Wolf Ostwald To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 8:23 AM Subject: LF: Stainless steel versus copper Hi ! Is there any experience around about using stainless steel wires for toploads or feeders versus copper ? As to my knowledge there is a certain amount of rf current penetrating into the conductor at 137/500 kHz. Losses are expected to be high in lesser conductive materials at those frequencies. Any ideas about the order of magnitude in current fed antennas ? 73 de wolf df2py / di2bj ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. 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Hello Wolf,
 
Regarding steel wire losses depend highly on the kind of ste= el
and=20 on the kind of antenna (resonant or not).
Magnetic steel should be= avoided=20 because its =B5rel is unknown and=20
changes over frequency. 

On shortwave I've measured= a factor of=20 ~13 steel vs copper for *rf*  losses of a 2mm
steel anten= na litz=20 wire, manufactured by a former German antenna producer (Fritzel).=
This closely matches with numbers found in Gerd Janzen's book "Ku= rze=20 Antennen".
Therefore the efficiency for a half wave dipole is about= 89%=20 (0,5dB)
and 84% (0,76dB) for a fullwave loop made of this= type of=20 steel.
Losses of steel antenna wire really become detrimental if yo= u use=20 short antennas because of
the low radiation resistance.
So for MW/LW,where most of us have extremely short antenas in ter= ms of=20 wavelength
steel wire is not advisable for antennas.
Losses of feeders made of steel,with= reasonable=20 diameter (say 2mm) are in the same range
as with resonant dipoles or resonant= loops,i.e. neglectable for our= =20 purposes.

73
Clemens
DL4RAJ
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Wolf= Ostwald=20
Sent: Saturday, November 07,= 2009 8:23=20 AM
Subject: LF: Stainless steel= versus=20 copper

Hi !

Is there any experi= ence around=20 about using stainless steel wires for toploads or feeders versus cop= per=20 ?

As to my knowledge= there is a=20 certain amount of rf current penetrating into the conductor at 137/5= 00 kHz.=20 Losses are expected to be high in lesser conductive materials at tho= se=20 frequencies. Any ideas about the order of magnitude in current fed= antennas=20 ?

73 de wolf  df= 2py /=20 di2bj


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------=_NextPart_000_0054_01CA5F9E.EB1B0B10-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG044-a054af1984d15b; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:06:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG037-a054af1984d15b; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:05:51 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N5hPw-0006Ob-Lx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:05:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N5hPw-0006OS-0f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:05:00 +0000 Received: from mail-yx0-f203.google.com ([209.85.210.203]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N5hOc-0002Th-IE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:03:39 +0000 Received: by yxe41 with SMTP id 41so18273744yxe.30 for ; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 07:04:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=iVHNtPzKGAsCaY5SWXfvxXHknSxWt8WP8mcxoaqzihg=; b=gmstphz7cwtTr/FjKAE3xTa3+kOvOfxTxpv4MHXubaIXG5FCvbRaYD128BojUZJLQt 7Uzl9ppq93SKiFQa3TWW6f9PQ3ay1hd0fRMJ1plqvfaPGVi8M6XE5M3m5QYNuYLfPB3Y mN3dbQGWgqK6TCmudgDmASugNtpK9yMvkmIvE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xOSj6bcC0ozngV34Nmdp4OoDM337xWzpd+by8tcOEsctOslGkkN9JI3g+C+mTgXhcg U1yLO5e1SIzooTACdGw5RKugAmfCWZuG3QpMb0wwAFYbdczJ1mo1ixAzpl5OCb6x2mxJ sGnixeklK3ThnYcDjpjwqU5RykfriKOzIJjuM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.38.5 with SMTP id l5mr2848657ybl.284.1257347092267; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 07:04:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4AF11056.3030404@telus.net> References: <4AF11056.3030404@telus.net> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 10:04:52 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70911040704r17a93d46s621e564ce62f2e90@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 2.7 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08=2.435,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: J... Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary=000e0cd4d064cb428804778cee24 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_06, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m230.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0cd4d064cb428804778cee24 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd4d064cb427804778cee23 --000e0cd4d064cb427804778cee23 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks Scott, I need to stay on the air a bit longer for the west coast! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Scott Tilley wrote: > > > --000e0cd4d064cb427804778cee23 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Scott,
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X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Class E pa Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0ce045049459360479309eda X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d282.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0ce045049459360479309eda Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Mal I'm still using a Derivative of the Design from G3YXM's class E 1KW TX on LF. Recently I've built a TX for 500 kHz using the same principle. It works great and delivers up to 500W. Unfortunately only into a dummy load, because 500 kHz is still not allowed here in Switzerland. But at least - I will be ready ;-) 73 de Toni, HB9ASB 2009/11/25 mal hamilton > Ref recent discussion on the subject. > > I use a class E pa on 500 kcs and never get any trouble. > As a general guide use high voltage fets and the fet V should be rated at > about 5 times the supply V and current about 3 times. > You arrive at class E by careful design not by accident. > Having designed and built the PA for the required power and load R usually > 50 ohms adjust into a DL for correct waveform as displayed on a 'scope, this > is important otherwise V spikes and instability will kill the fet. > Install a suitable antenna and match it with a suitable atu to 50 ohms so > when you connect the TX/PA to the antenna they both match. > Check the wave form again and any slight mismatch should be adjusted by the > antenna atu and NOT the pa. > The load does not have to be 50 ohms but this is convenient when testing > with available test gear. > High V fets give more realistic C and Inductor and R values. A good range > for fets is a psu giving 40 - 100 volts ie fets 500volts and a suitable > current rating depending on your power. requirements ie if you need to draw > 5 amps the fet should be rated 15 amps. > These are the general guidelines and work well for me. > Most amateurs seem to use class D amps whereas class E are rare. > > de Mal/G3KEV > > --000e0ce045049459360479309eda Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mal
I'm still using a Derivative of the Design from G3YXM's= class E 1KW TX on LF. Recently I've built a TX for 500 kHz using the= same principle. It works great and delivers up to 500W. Unfortunately onl= y into a dummy load, because 500 kHz is still not allowed here in Switzerl= and. But at least - I will be ready ;-)
73 de Toni, HB9ASB

2009/11/25 mal hamilt= on <g3kevmal= @talktalk.net>
Ref recent discussion on the subject.=
=A0
I use a class E pa on 500 kcs and nev= er get any=20 trouble.
As a general guide use high voltage= fets and the=20 fet V should be rated at =A0about 5 times the supply V and current about= 3=20 times.
You arrive at class E by careful desi= gn not by=20 accident.
Having designed and built the PA for= the required=20 power=A0and=A0load R usually 50 ohms adjust into a DL for correct waveform= =20 as displayed on a 'scope, this is important otherwise V spikes and ins= tability=20 will kill the fet.
Install a suitable antenna and match= it with a=20 suitable atu to 50 ohms so when you connect the TX/PA to the antenna they= both=20 match.
Check the wave form again and any sli= ght mismatch=20 should be adjusted by the antenna atu and NOT the pa.
The load does not=20 have to be 50 ohms but this is convenient when testing with available test= =20 gear.
High V fets give more realistic C and= Inductor and=20 R values. A good range for fets is a psu giving 40 - 100 volts ie fets 500= volts=20 and a suitable current rating depending on your power. requirements ie if= you=20 need to draw 5 amps the fet should be rated 15 amps.
These are the general guidelines and= work well for=20 me.
Most amateurs seem to use class D amp= s whereas=20 class E are rare.
=A0
de Mal/G3KEV
=A0

--000e0ce045049459360479309eda-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINME043-9c44b0d6097357; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:51:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME068-9c44b0d6097357; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:51:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDL4N-0004tR-Nf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:50:19 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDL4N-0004tI-66 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:50:19 +0000 Received: from out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.237]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDL4L-0004PL-27 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:50:19 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAEPvDEtcHcMt/2dsb2JhbADWLIQyBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,287,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="122234229" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.29.195.45]) by out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 25 Nov 2009 16:50:09 +0000 Message-ID: <001b01ca6def$57a0fca0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <001901ca6de6$a34b30c0$0900a8c0@lark> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:48:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: instability on MosFet amps Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Alan and Co I am using a LPF consisting of 2 x T200 type material with no adverse effects and insertion loss virtually nil. It works well with my class E PA and 1/4 wave inv L antenna. de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Melia" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 3:45 PM Subject: LF: Re: instability on MosFet amps > Hi Wolf this may not be the case with the properly tuned Class-E stage which > has relatively low distortion. It does not output a square-wave as some > think. See The QST article by Nat Sokal. > > Bear in mind filters complicate things further since they can transform > mis-matches and only really work if resistively terminated. Even more reason > to get your antenna right first. Loaded diplexor filters are a little more > forgiving if you have harmonic problems but should not be necessary on > Class-E a simple low-pass half-wave filter works well but use air cored > coils, not toroids. > > Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wolf Ostwald" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 3:25 PM > Subject: LF: instability on MosFet amps > > > > Hello group ! > > > > I found that almost all amp configurations generate harmonics. In case of > a > > homebrewed HF amp, with a push -pull design, I had to build hi-pass > filters > > with a resistive termination, so called split filters, for each band. > > Without dissipating the harmonic energy the stage will have to cope with > > excess voltages and thus bury the MosFets . > > > > My last amp stage for the DI2BJ-beacon is followed by a hi-pass that opens > > at 750 kcs . This way the first harmonic and all the higher ones go into > > thermal dissipation. > > > > A T-type adjustable low-pass is used to match and reduce harmonics > further. > > > > Have fun de wolf df2py > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG052-a274af6e945227; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:52:49 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG081-a274af6e945227; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:52:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7A3Q-00078j-TO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:51:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7A3Q-00078a-Dr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:51:48 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7A2S-00018j-Jf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:50:49 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3524.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 79B301C00084 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:51:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3524.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6CC351C00085 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:51:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.45.11]) by mwinf3524.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id E20971C00084 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:51:40 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091108155140925.E20971C00084@mwinf3524.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <1E18FD2CB0EF4AD18696D0C843D75BFE@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <001b01ca6086$cd0966b0$0617aac0@jimdesk> In-Reply-To: <001b01ca6086$cd0966b0$0617aac0@jimdesk> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:51:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Losses due to ant in tree? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0053_01CA608B.5C614680" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_FONT_BIG, HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0053_01CA608B.5C614680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jim, Its very hard to estimate / guestimate may be move the decimal poi= nt, one place to the left , g4jnt beacon at 311Kmt is showing round= 10 db up on your signal at 243Kmt at the same time of day , If I am= right the power feed on wspr is -6db of the ral pulse/psk , making= power feed 25 watts=20 Similar power / similar distance / very similar bearing , 10 db less= , possibly 0.025 % ? ..... its all smoke and mirrors , perhaps= a little more smoke with wspr ?=20 G .. =20 From: James Cowburn=20 Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 3:19 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Losses due to ant in tree? Hi All, =20 The vertical 5m section of my inverted L runs up into the branches of= a silver birch tree. The wire goes over a large bough at 5m or so an= d then comes out of the branches for some 22m down to a 4m high pole= attached to the garage. =20 Has anyone a guesstimation of the losses in signal caused by running= the wire through the tree? =20 Using vertload and tophat2 I calculate the antenna to be around 0.25%= efficient but this assumes it is in free space. Can anyone suggest= a figure for the additional loss due to tree heating! =20 The vertical element is actually sloping at about 20 degree from the= tree down to the loading coil. The length is nearer 6metres but the= vertical height over ground at the bough is about 5m. =20 (Santa may be bringing me a set of swaged poles with which to build ma= rk 2, well away from the silver birch!) =20 With best regards =20 =20 Jim =20 =20 Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS ------=_NextPart_000_0053_01CA608B.5C614680 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jim,
 
Its very hard to  estimate / gue= stimate =20 may be  move the  decimal point, one place to the  left= , g4jnt=20 beacon at  311Kmt is showing  round 10 db up on your signal= at 243Kmt=20 at the same time of day  , If  I am right the  pow= er=20 feed  on wspr is -6db  of the ral pulse/psk , making power&n= bsp; feed=20 25 watts 
 
Similar power / similar distance / ve= ry similar=20 bearing , 10 db less  , possibly  0.025 % ? .....  its= all =20 smoke and  mirrors , perhaps a little  more  smoke with= wspr=20 ? 
 
G ..  
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 3:19 PM
Subject: LF: Losses due to ant in tree?

Hi All,

 

The vertical 5m section of my=20 inverted L runs up into the branches of a silver birch tree.  The= wire goes=20 over a large bough at 5m or so and then comes out of the branches for= some 22m=20 down to a 4m high pole attached to the garage.

 

Has anyone a guesstimation of the=20 losses in signal caused by running the wire through the=20 tree?

 

Using vertload and tophat2 I=20 calculate the antenna to be around 0.25% efficient but this assumes it= is in=20 free space.  Can anyone suggest a figure for the additional loss= due to=20 tree heating!

 

The vertical element is actually=20 sloping at about 20 degree from the tree down to the loading coil. &nb= sp;The=20 length is nearer 6metres but the vertical height over ground at the bo= ugh is=20 about 5m.

 

(Santa may be bringing me a set of=20 swaged poles with which to build mark 2, well away from the silver=20 birch!)

 

With best=20 regards

 

 

= Jim

 

 

Dr. James Cowburn=20 G7NKS



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Hello Roger,
You are right about the transfor= mer thing and=20 the calculation being incorrect, however, you will be pleased to know= this has=20 been put right in the second edition.
I totally agree, these books are an= excellent=20 starting point.
Chris, G4AYT.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 02, 20= 09 7:39=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: 'LF Today'= Errors

Mike (et al),

As an owner of the 1st edition= of LF Today=20 may I thank you for this most helpful little book; there has been mu= ch in it=20 that I've enjoyed and used as sources of information. I do hope a ne= w version=20 is produced in due course.

Maybe the next edition will inclu= de=20 something about WSPR and how effective results may be achieved, on= 500kHz at=20 least, with a totally simple station set-up like my own runni= ng just=20 microwatts ERP.

The only error/confusion I spotted is on p81= (of the=20 1st edition) when it talks about current transformers. There is some= thing=20 screwy here when working out the current in the secondary.

73= s
Roger=20 G3XBM

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http://g3xbm-= qrp.blogspot.com/
http:/= /www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM  =20  GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088
------=_NextPart_000_0029_01CA5D50.4CC646F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db04.mx.aol.com (rly-db04.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.79]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB032-abb4b0932472cd; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:45:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB041-abb4b0932472cd; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:44:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCBnK-0002z7-9H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:43:58 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCBnJ-0002yy-Tt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:43:57 +0000 Received: from mbox2.netikka.net ([213.250.81.203]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCBnI-00042g-7Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:43:57 +0000 Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by mbox2.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96DA3408036 for ; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) LF DK7SU 439 on 136.7kHz in QSO with DK7FC/P 1238UTC Mini-Whip @ 10m AGL IC-R75 Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ Vaasa / KP03SD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB061-aba4b0879573cb; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:36:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB038-aba4b0879573cb; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:35:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBzTU-0004Xp-QP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:34:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBzTU-0004Xg-Ai for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:34:40 +0000 Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com ([205.188.91.97]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBzTT-00035N-Hk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:34:40 +0000 Received: from imo-da01.mx.aol.com (imo-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.199]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nALNYQhc023298 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:34:26 -0500 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-da01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id l.d41.538829d5 (39331) for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:34:23 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:34:23 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: F4DTL@aol.com X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: SP2KDS 137kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1258846462" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 -------------------------------1258846462 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Hello Marcin and Andrey,good copy here in QRSS3. =20 =20 F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC7400 Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010 Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 22/11/2009 00:16:35 Paris, Madrid, rn3agc@mail.ru= a =20 =E9crit : Hi Marcin, The signal is audible!! S1-2 at 23.10 73 Andrey Dear LF, SP2KDS calling CQ now... 137,695kHz QRSS 3 73! Marcin SQ2BXI -------------------------------1258846462 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= FONT id=3Drole_document color=3D#000000 size=3D2 face=3DArial>
Hello Marcin and Andrey,good copy here in QRSS3.
 
F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP

RX : Icom IC7400
Ant: Wellbrook LFL=20 1010

Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 22/11/2009 00:16:35 Paris, Madrid, rn3agc@ma= il.ru a=20 =E9crit :
H= i=20 Marcin,
The signal is audible!! S1-2 at 23.10

73 Andrey
Dear=20 LF,
SP2KDS calling CQ now...
137,695kHz QRSS 3
73! Marcin=20 SQ2BXI
 
 
 -------------------------------1258846462-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (rly-dg06.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.90]) by air-dg04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG043-5d14af707e4262; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:03:26 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG064-5d14af707e4262; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:03:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7C5k-0007o2-Hd for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:02:20 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7C5k-0007nt-3J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:02:20 +0000 Received: from mbox2.netikka.net ([213.250.81.203]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7C5i-0005q5-N9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:02:19 +0000 Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by mbox2.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D26F6408062 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:02:10 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C4AF495BA3 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:02:10 +0200 (EET) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:02:10 +0200 Message-ID: <1257703330.4af707a2981ef@imp.netikka.net> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:02:10 +0200 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20091108130141.ptdpp5udwsc8ksc4@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <1N7BTk-0pNfai0@fwd00.t-online.de> In-Reply-To: <1N7BTk-0pNfai0@fwd00.t-online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: New allocations for Norwegian radio Amateurs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Ha-Jo, LF Yes, you are right. 100W is the limit for transmitter output power and the= re is no separate ERP limit according to the information I have. Paul-Henrik, OH1LSQ Quoting hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de: > Dear all > > to my understanding the 100 watts within the new norwegian rules for 500 > kHz is the output power of the transmitter. > > HW? > > 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB > > > "Rik Strobbe" schrieb: > > just received this > > > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > > > ----- Doorgestuurd bericht van la2rr@broadpark.no ----- > > Datum: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 12:50:29 +0100 > > Van: Ole Garpestad > > > > Hi folks, > > > > For your information: > > > > > > New secondary allocations for Norwegian radio amateurs > > > > As of November 6th 2009 the updated amateur radio licensing > > regulations in Norway went into force. > > The main news are the following new allocations made available to all > > Norwegian radio amateurs (in addition to the 135,7 - 137,8 kHz and the > > 7,1 - 7,2 MHz bands): > > > > LF: > > 493 - 510 kHz on secondary basis, 100 W, A1A (CW) only. > > > > HF: > > 5260 - 5410 kHz on secondary basis, all modes (6 kHz max bandwidth) > > 24740-24890 kHz on secondary basis, 1kW (6 kHz max bandwidth) > > > > VHF > > 70,0625-70,0875 MHz on secondary basis, 100 W, max bandwidth 16 kHz > > 70,1375-70,1875 MHz on secondary basis, 100 W, max bandwidth 16 kHz > > 70,2625-70,3125 MHz on secondary basis, 100 W, max bandwidth 16 kHz > > 70,3625-70,3875 MHz on secondary basis, 100 W, max bandwidth 16 kHz > > 70,4125-70,4625 MHz on secondary basis, 100 W, max bandwidth 16 kHz > > > > and some minor adjustments at SHF and EHF. > > > > As of today the full text is only available in Norwegian, but let me > > know if you need any additional info, I will assist as best i can (the > > URL for the Norwegian text is > > http://www.lovdata.no/ltavd1/filer/sf-20091105-1340.html ). > > > > 73 > > Ole, LA2RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Einde doorgestuurd bericht ----- > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (rly-mf03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.173]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v125.8) with ESMTP id MAILINMF042-9504b092b94cc; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:16:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF036-9504b092b94cc; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:16:22 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCBLp-0002YN-31 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:15:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCBLo-0002YE-Nq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:15:32 +0000 Received: from out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.240]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCBLn-0003m1-Sx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:15:32 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlAFAIq6CEtOkFIg/2dsb2JhbACCJCuLOQbEf4Q8BA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,266,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="107505108" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([78.144.82.32]) by out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 22 Nov 2009 12:15:04 +0000 Message-ID: <007901ca6b6d$6b27d3e0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:15:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: DK7FC/P Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0076_01CA6B6D.6AE2B490" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01CA6B6D.6AE2B490 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tnx Stefan for qso but ur RX needs attention Still active CQ De mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01CA6B6D.6AE2B490 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
       = Tnx Stefan=20 for qso but ur RX needs attention
Still active CQ
De mal/g3kev
 
------=_NextPart_000_0076_01CA6B6D.6AE2B490-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de08.mx.aol.com (rly-de08.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.144]) by air-de07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE074-4f44b02750a144; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:04:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE083-4f44b02750a144; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:03:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAKu1-0001Vu-UC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:03:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAKu1-0001Vl-IP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:03:13 +0000 Received: from smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.11]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAKu1-0006Ov-11 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:03:13 +0000 Received: from bb-87-82-19-111.ukonline.co.uk ([87.82.19.111] helo=[192.168.0.3]) by smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NAKu0-000Ld5-6H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:03:12 +0000 Message-ID: <4B027512.30004@ukonline.co.uk> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:04:02 +0000 From: Peter Dodd User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1f0624b90911160805u4435bd18ue805924594d8b997@mail.gmail.com> <20091117081718.BDD6EF3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> <1f0624b90911170146i3b3201abh55b54fd75e56fa50@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1f0624b90911170146i3b3201abh55b54fd75e56fa50@mail.gmail.com> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Congratulations Rik Peter, G3LDO > Rik, > > Well done. > > I should be in a position to attempt the same as I saw solid QRS > signals from Joe. > > Gary - G4WGT. > > 2009/11/17 Rik Strobbe > > > Gary, All, > > yesterday I could copy VX9MRC in QRSS3 with a surprising strong > signal as early as 18 UTC, when I launched Argo. > Throughout the evening the signal was strong and with little QSB > from 19-22UTC, after that the signal became weaker with much more QSB. > Probably because I had a sked with Joe at 22:40 UTC ;-) . > But despite all we managed to complete the QSO with both way M > report (would have been a solid O earlier the evening). > A first ON-VE QSO on 500kHz and with +/- 4075km a new DX record for me > Joe transmitted on 507.770 and I on 501.190. > Between 19 and 22 UTC the signal was audible most of the time and > would have been CW copy if it were not squeezed between the NDB > "Z" carrier at 507.980 (S9+ here) the SM6BHZ CW/SSB test > transmissions (up to S9) and a local birdie on 507.600. > > For the QSO I was running 300W into my 11m high / 25m long lazy-L > antenna, estimated ERP about 1.5 Watt (at best, if the greenery > does not absorb too much) > > The night from Sunday - Monday I left Argo running, VX9MRC > produced a good signal all through the night and faded out at > 07UTC. This would mean that there is a potential transatlantic > path on 500kHz for 13h a day !!! > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > At 17:05 16/11/2009, you wrote: > > Hi All, > > Good signals from both stations last night. > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo. > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD072-b624afbf28c70; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 06:33:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD024-b624afbf28c70; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 06:33:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8XuT-0006W7-B1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:32:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8XuS-0006Vy-Ox for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:32:16 +0000 Received: from smtp819.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.19]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8Xtl-0005RX-0U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:31:37 +0000 Received: (qmail 8719 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2009 11:32:05 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=GnfJWyAGqw0OytSl+RQY/LScXnCDRjyi+OYBSvMmJV3e3yNEvz+8KvYie+Za42RrmSK9hltOd0XWYLVTT5CqPD7VSQo8ghR0uiyTeF0rBYliuq17MDUbaR75MHhX9UfX6tBLsDVg6+jVnrZUPx7T83oD/TQpAKA5O7+c+uVt46g= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@213.122.9.244 with login) by smtp819.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Nov 2009 11:32:03 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: KHdpK2OswBBXlm4uxknbEiS4uYdJoGknHN90u4K8__lTafnafZg- X-YMail-OSG: TEvFAjoVM1lc2WfFrARw5N2pXeJDEzgt3ikHzsLCGhLrbvK4PW3g5i_KKeIKHLQNm1hvbB1nUEPJF7zVe2gNXsi80hmIMlVRT8ecr1HNlPDvqphOFcaGOFBBpjOyMAz.MjFuN3l8_NoRWv.Q.CxpgbXStepIyR4tsqPpmQcRtI_Kt3MWiVYFx2GuYNa2CS41Zx4FMWJg4E.a8KUbQ5cgoquTRI6hIiO.QqH8KPimrsoQTAN4TueCyv5GIOHIwJ4ZsgZBFkp_Tk7XS9OC1Hd3z2lMpcUtFZWaeCHtUs.jEuQV236Q063lR9Qf6KaraBRS5qZDCnvhhuMvhtBga0e6bQBd X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <005001ca638b$c6dce610$0900a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <4AFB477C.5090604@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <001501ca6326$ff28c710$0617aac0@jimdesk> <00f301ca6329$8ba907c0$0900a8c0@lark> <001901ca632a$d3356ab0$0617aac0@jimdesk> <011201ca6332$23e930c0$0900a8c0@lark> <000301ca637d$20bd9e40$0617aac0@jimdesk> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:26:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Jim, Radio is not easy, we all learn as we go along, and are still learning. The catch is that circuit diagrams are not anything more than descriptions of a way of achieving the wanted function. They do not really show what actually is there in terms of strays, parasitic components and unexpected couplings via common impedances....you get a feel for this by experience and that is what often gives it the a nature like a "black art". It makes the succeses that more rewarding too. Stick at it and dont hesitate to ask........sometimes formulating and asking a question will help you understand the problem better, even solve it youself without further help. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Cowburn" To: Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:47 AM Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! > Hi Alan > > Thanks for the pointers here. Very useful. As it transpires, the laptop > psu is now interfering on Rx so a loop has opened up somewhere. I'm going > to dismantle the whole set up and re-wire/reroute from scratch....god help > me!! > > I should have taken up stamp collecting as a hobby! > > > > With best regards > > > Jim > > > Dr. James Cowburn > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia > Sent: 12 November 2009 00:25 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: RE: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! > > Ah the dreaded laptop. Ok the isolation that is agood idea in that case you > must make sure you have some Rf grounds somewhere. Laptops seem to float > there is not reason (for the digital engineers who designed them anyway) to > put an earth on the metalwork. The RF circuitating in those leads might be > inducing hum. It might be worth trying an earth on any suitable but of the > laptop metalwork....socket pillars ?? It definitely sounds as though it is > hum getting into the PC sound system. > > Good Luck with it. > Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Cowburn" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 11:58 PM > Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! > > > > The soundcard leads are via an opto-isolator interface and the leads from > > the interface to laptop are wound on ferrite cores, approx 8 turns each > for > > tx and rx. > > > > I will check the mains psu for the dell d610 laptop as that could be > > introducing hum or picking up rf from the tx (IC-735). It might need > > ferrites on the leads to and from the SMPSU > > > > I've just turned "the wick" down on the tx/rx inputs and also the rf gain > on > > ic 735 till the needle just shifted in case it was being over-driven so > I'll > > see how that works. > > > > Not a prob when I was QRPpp but as sigs improve with dark nights I'd > noticed > > it too > > > > Thanks to John and others for heads up and suggestions > > > > With best regards > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia > > Sent: 11 November 2009 23:49 > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: LF: Re: RE: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! > > > > Hi Jim what kind of PC are you using. If a desktop are to sure it has the > > mains safety earth connected.....I have come across this problem before > some > > 3 connecter IEC moulded leads with only two wires in them!! If a laptop > then > > unless you use a radio earth that may all be floating. Sometimes it is > > necessary to use an tranformer on the audio leads to and from the PC to > gain > > isolation from the hum and noise. I use old telephone hybrid transformers > > 600ohm to 600 ohm ferrite cored. > > > > Best Wishes > > Alan G3NYK > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "James Cowburn" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 11:30 PM > > Subject: LF: RE: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! > > > > > > > Hi John > > > > > > I'll have a look see. I've noticed on strong sigs from me (few and far > > > between!) I get multiple decodes +50 and -50. I'm not aware of any > > obvious > > > mains hum if I monitor my outgoing sigs and all leads are wound on > ferrite > > > cores, but clearly something is amiss. > > > > > > I shall look into it and see what I can find > > > > > > Cheers for the heads up > > > > > > With best regards > > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > Dr. James Cowburn > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John P-G > > > Sent: 11 November 2009 23:24 > > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > > Subject: LF: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! > > > > > > Jim. LF > > > > > > It looks like G7NKS has a 50/100Hz problem on the audio - both in TX and > > > RX directions - there are up to 3 decodes by Jim of a single station (eg > > > G3YXM), spaced by 50 & 100Hz and I see also that M0BMU is also reporting > > > multiple decodes of G7NKS with the same 50/100Hz spacing. > > > > > > Jim, have you some mains hum affecting the audio in/out of the PC? > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > John > > > GM4SLV > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB061-aea4af9afd8be; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:24:33 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB098-aea4af9afd8be; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:24:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7vNH-00087l-9s for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:23:27 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7vNG-00087b-SZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:23:26 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7vNE-0004rB-LE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:23:26 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 320CE51C004; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:23:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id E218E31E702; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:23:09 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id 9B44618056; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:23:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from 121.141-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (121.141-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.247.141.121]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:23:09 +0100 Message-ID: <20091110192309.4v8agotbs0k0gocs@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:23:09 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" , Jim and Hannelore Fisher Cc: "g3xiz@yahoo.co.uk" , rsgb lf group References: <001101ca621e$dcdc3380$96949a80$@princeton.edu> In-Reply-To: <001101ca621e$dcdc3380$96949a80$@princeton.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.247.141.121 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500 kHz WSPR de VE1JF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Jim, I noticed you on WSPRnet yesterday, congrats for copying SM6BHZ. Last night I got only 2 decodes from AA1A. But SM6BHZ is another league, more power and a far better location. So far my 200mW ERP WSPR signal has been copied by AA1A (FN42), K1JT (FN20) and VE1VDM (FN85). With 2 exceptions all decodes were between 22:00 and 22:30 UTC. If WX stays dry I will be WSPR-ing tonight, any chance to take an early start ? 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (rly-ma03.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.47]) by air-ma06.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMA062-89b4b0c3cd270; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:07:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA035-89b4b0c3cd270; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:06:44 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ND1e2-00077q-Hq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:05:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ND1e2-00077f-5R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:05:50 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f215.google.com ([209.85.220.215]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ND1e1-0003h1-I5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:05:50 +0000 Received: by fxm7 with SMTP id 7so7277829fxm.29 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:05:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lzM7tvGrgMqoDcUQWmug+iO528mqgyJIs5app0MZBac=; b=vMPfpOEQTZyvKMsDLBH/9YHnj+wh5FtjFRYvd9IY9IWOcGqz6RJonxYkPUoIT1glxV R77TnWHF+wDWVv7raTjiqf9b0oTv/XzPMKWtioznIDF5xDNYiuZUHHLZo1Yu6rlxerHX zR9s0hchWJ8w0dAAzYsSxcNyjakiCrogWY0nI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=bAvshwdr9LnwdxGDAFSbCZD4xpRLKpo6Z+04+ChnE3FdKbpUsOjZ2tyfPIbte1amSb X9UVn1EUbYoHcDSrsAZxwNiP7tlT87Es6+IzHTkT216HXtnWqQg7Alk6KKLCRYxvzpct uplbpQhArxRCqaFm/ZmnSSOhR0mDLv1PZDjWo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.139.211 with SMTP id u19mr707608hbu.97.1259093142895; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:05:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <9afca2640911241140j230515e9kcbcaffd3911ccb82@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:05:42 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: IRF510 500kHz PA stability issues - advice please Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d231.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Correction:- The IRF540 is also 100V rated, but a lot lower Rds on 0.05 ohms rather than 0.5 ohms for the IRF510. That may well contribute to overheating and damage on mismatch. > open and short circuits and seemed very robust; but I did use the > meatier and more robust higher voltage IRF540. Doesn't the IRF510 only > have a 100V rating? > > Andy > www.g4jnt.com > > This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health > and safety police > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG072-a1b4b0c33665a; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:26:47 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG065-a1b4b0c33665a; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:26:31 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ND115-0006kT-LY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:25:35 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ND115-0006kK-6o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:25:35 +0000 Received: from mail-ew0-f214.google.com ([209.85.219.214]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ND112-0004VG-Qc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:25:35 +0000 Received: by ewy6 with SMTP id 6so3545740ewy.29 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:25:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gMgZkZe+h3fjMkHenS94CqxVViOCDCOw4dl6eIODYRY=; b=LC6YKeKFzqcP2FcPO2liVCxQgw5biNjVGNBcYdTqn7+AsqrNq/lNhagvvyo1eYZ9RA WZ552OnK5KitV6r7kMHbNuHKDDRPPr9rV/jmxZABtWd04ohsrCLIUtFa2wuRJw5KMjRJ sy9PR46VxbcIKO8xDJMRDnW3cjMOfMI3nPx5c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=OqZLzZOp36epqyTyCpSxqwspOEyz4Pt3et4pd/l8cTn87Xv9YRraWC0LJww2dPQu99 w1oDxcmg3frFFmRaELPG+ylyZUESqE03pp/p6PP78oYAIZycgoIn9udhYonQyXiwvxtg X7a3TlqCHUmOvMoKoR+/RCN6P0WhNZmvb5hKI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.2.84 with SMTP id 20mr1603252ebi.90.1259090726523; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:25:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <007801ca6c6a$09baf120$3ab27cbc@niurhaxf0xcqlj> References: <007801ca6c6a$09baf120$3ab27cbc@niurhaxf0xcqlj> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:25:26 +0100 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Anton_B=E4rtschi?= To: Marcin , rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: qso Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0ce0d4a07e9350047922e7e7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d264.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0ce0d4a07e9350047922e7e7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello Marcin Yes, would be nice to make a first contact SP-HB9. As far as i know, it never took place. How abot this weekend, saturday or sunday? Have you ever seen my signal? Should we try it in QRS3 or QRS10? 73 de Toni, HB9ASB 2009/11/23 Marcin > Hello Toni > Plise QSO on 136kHz. > We have 1W EIRP and antenna 30m hight and 120m long. > -- > Vy 73! > Marcin SQ2BXI > (SP2KDS Team) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Internetowi nie placa! Otworz Konto Direct. > Kliknij >> http://link.interia.pl/f2448 > > --000e0ce0d4a07e9350047922e7e7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Marcin
Yes, would be nice to make a first contact SP-HB9. As far= as i know, it never took place. How abot this weekend, saturday or sunday= ? Have you ever seen my signal? Should we try it in QRS3 or QRS10?
73= de Toni, HB9ASB

2009/11/23 Marcin <bxi@interia.pl>
Hello Toni
Plise QSO on 136kHz.
We have 1W EIRP and antenna 30m hight and 120m long.
--
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI
(SP2KDS Team)

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Internetowi nie placa! Otworz Konto Direct.
Kliknij >> http://link.interia.pl/f2448


--000e0ce0d4a07e9350047922e7e7-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (rly-mf06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.176]) by air-mf02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF022-9664afcc9832d; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:51:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF064-9664afcc9832d; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:50:45 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8mE9-0000Z7-7y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:49:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8mE8-0000Yy-Sk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:49:32 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([199.185.220.240]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8mE7-0002W7-UG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:49:32 +0000 Received: from edtnaa01.telusplanet.net ([75.157.140.241]) by priv-edtnes28.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091113024928.FCYS760.priv-edtnes28.telusplanet.net@edtnaa01.telusplanet.net> for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:49:28 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.67] (d75-157-140-241.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.140.241]) by edtnaa01.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 2FD3B2E0A789201E for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:49:27 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4AFCC936.9060800@telus.net> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:49:26 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <2EB9AB3966984B91BB0C369B32CF12FC@AGB> In-Reply-To: <2EB9AB3966984B91BB0C369B32CF12FC@AGB> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Graham All Canadian 600m stations are operating under COMMERCIAL Developmental Licenses and are not able to communicate with the Amateur Service. The sad truth and why the entire experimental program in Canada is a waste of time. 73 Scott VE7TIL Graham wrote: > Can anyone clarify the situation as to who can work who > is this the same as the USA ? > > Tnx - G .. > > From the IARU web site > > As of 30 October 2009 Canada issued two licences in the Developmental > Service in the range 504-509 kHz. > > * VE1ZZ has been assigned VX9PSO and is reported on 504.6 kHz > * VO1NA has been assigned VX9MRC and is reported on 507.77 and > 508.5 kHz > > Two more stations, VE3OHH and VE7BDQ, are expected to become active soon. > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb07.mx.aol.com (rly-mb07.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.165]) by air-mb06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB061-d194af6caf374; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:43:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB075-d194af6caf374; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:43:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N782L-0006L9-B0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; 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Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:42:22 +0100 Message-ID: <20091108144222.cakveqhk8wo8gwc8@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:42:22 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <019f01ca6061$34a80040$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20091108120711.z1zbaakm0cw0cocg@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <01cd01ca6068$54f09a40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20091108141505.zsudabk1wg80k848@webmail6.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20091108141505.zsudabk1wg80k848@webmail6.kuleuven.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.240.168.12 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: daytime WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) it gets even better: GM4SLV copied my signal at 13:36 UTC over a 1102km path 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting Rik Strobbe : > My WSPR 0.2W ERP signal was copied by GM0LLJ (774km) at 12:58 UTC > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (rly-mg10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.116]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMG092-a3a4b12a95ea8; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:03:44 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG104-a3a4b12a95ea8; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:03:28 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEnAS-0002Ma-K1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:02:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEnAS-0002MR-6b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hallo paul ! many thanks fer info about my transmission. oe5odl ossi jn68rd Paul-Henrik schrieb: > LF > > OE5ODL is a nice audible signal on 137.7kHz. > > Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ > Vaasa / KP03SD > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df12.mx.aol.com (rly-df12.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.25]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDF072-5974b0e7e7e259; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 08:11:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF126-5974b0e7e7e259; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 08:11:28 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDe6q-0004J1-3i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:10:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDe6p-0004Is-OF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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2009 21:07:24 -0000 Message-ID: <004a01ca6249$d91531e0$8b3f95a0$@princeton.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcpiM4qAo5LIx7iVRcmnN6LimHNNuwAFXxWA Content-Language: en-ca X-Opwv-CommTouchExtSvcRefID: str=0001.0A020208.4AF9D627.0194,ss=1,fgs=0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: 500 kHz WSPR de VE1JF Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Rik--thanks for the note! Not tonight, Rik--I am committed to compared 160 WSPR with VE2DC in Qu= ebec (who will also be Participating in the 500 kHz experiments and has already copied an M0= there); anyhow, I Have to leave before 2200 for a meeting this evening. Tx is on 160 WSP= R and I'll turn spotting back on as I leave the house. (Still dial-up around here, so it's either in= ternet or telephone!) Would be happy to do it some other evening, though! How do you generate a WSPR signal on 500 kHz? 73, Jim VE1JF -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@b= lacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe Sent: November-10-09 18:23 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Jim and Hannelore Fisher Cc: g3xiz@yahoo.co.uk; rsgb lf group Subject: Re: LF: 500 kHz WSPR de VE1JF Jim, I noticed you on WSPRnet yesterday, congrats for copying SM6BHZ. Last night I got only 2 decodes from AA1A. But SM6BHZ is another league, more power and a far better location. So far my 200mW ERP WSPR signal has been copied by AA1A (FN42), K1JT= =20 (FN20) and VE1VDM (FN85). With 2 exceptions all decodes were between= =20 22:00 and 22:30 UTC. If WX stays dry I will be WSPR-ing tonight, any chance to take an =20 early start ? 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md09.mx.aol.com (rly-md09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.147]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD033-9234afdeead9; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:41:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD093-9234afdeead9; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:41:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N95ky-0006UT-1E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:40:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N95kx-0006UK-HA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:40:43 +0000 Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com ([64.12.78.142]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N95kw-0001pl-Bs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:40:43 +0000 Received: from imo-da03.mx.aol.com (imo-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.201]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nADNePrC024811 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:40:25 -0500 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-da03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id l.ca6.52dcd17f (37098) for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:40:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from White (g229111172.adsl.alicedsl.de [92.229.111.172]) by cia-db07.mx.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB078-90ea4afdee6228e; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:40:20 -0500 Message-ID: <96512D470572478EB84804542242B39F@White> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <004001ca646a$c6ec0cf0$3ab27cbc@niurhaxf0xcqlj> <006401ca64af$954964f0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:40:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: MarkusVester@aol.com X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: sp2kds Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01CA64C3.09F85370" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, LINES_OF_YELLING,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01CA64C3.09F85370 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Marcin, you might want to move down very slightly to avoid the collision on 13= 7.778: RA3YO 778.0 / 778.2 DFCW SP2KDS ~778.0 QRSS UA4WPF "W" 777.1 / 777.2 DFCW Good luck to all, Markus, DF6NM http://freenet-homepage.de/df6nm/Grabber.htm From: Andrey rn3agc=20 Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 11:20 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Re: sp2kds Hello Marcin, LF, Strong signal SP2KDS. 73 Andrey > Dear LF > Station SP2KDS will be today started from 21:00 on 137.700 (qrss3)= and later > 137.778 kHz (qrss60). > In time 20:00-21:00 search stations on 500kHz band. > -- > Vy 73! > Marcin SQ2BXI > (SP2KDS Team) >=20 > ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01CA64C3.09F85370 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Marcin,
 
you might want to move down very slig= htly to=20 avoid the collision on 137.778:
 
RA3YO 778.0 / 778.2 DFCW
SP2KDS ~778.0 QRSS
UA4WPF "W" 777.1 / 777.2 DFCW<= /DIV>
 
Good luck to all,
Markus, DF6NM
 
 
 

Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 11:20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: sp2kds

Hello Marcin, LF,
Strong signal SP2KDS.

73=20 Andrey

> Dear LF
> Station SP2KDS will be today starte= d from=20 21:00 on 137.700 (qrss3) and later
> 137.778 kHz (qrss60).
&g= t; In time=20 20:00-21:00 search stations on 500kHz band.
> --
> Vy 73!<= BR>>=20 Marcin SQ2BXI
> (SP2KDS Team)
>
>
------=_NextPart_000_0006_01CA64C3.09F85370-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df01.mx.aol.com (rly-df01.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.14]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF031-5284afa92ff250; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:33:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF015-5284afa92ff250; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:33:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8AUy-0001px-UI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:32:24 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8AUy-0001po-Fm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:32:24 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8AUw-0001A2-0t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:32:23 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 876D57B804B; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:32:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A778F3862; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:32:12 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id 305E918056; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:32:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from 69.100-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (69.100-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [87.64.100.69]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:32:12 +0100 Message-ID: <20091111113212.zxirqfc7uowwkswo@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:32:12 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "jwfisher@alumni.princeton.edu" Cc: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <20091110225713.CQ04R.5663.root@tormtz04> In-Reply-To: <20091110225713.CQ04R.5663.root@tormtz04> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 87.64.100.69 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: 500 kHz WSPR de VE1JF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Jim, the transverter is in the prototype / breadboard stage. It is original in the way that it is my own design, but it is just a =20 classic transverter: - Kenwood TS440 on 4.5MHz (in fact 4.5024MHz USB for WSPR) at minimum =20 power (abt. 1 Watt) - 30dB attenuator (1W to 1mW) - DBM (SBL-1) fed with a 4MHz xtal osc as downmixer to 500kHz (502.4kHz) - single transistor (BC550c) post amp, about 10mW out at 50 Ohm - 5 pole LPF - PA 10mW to 50W - 7 pole LPF - antenna I will be transmitting WSPR tonight (11-11) if WX stays dry. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting "jwfisher@alumni.princeton.edu NOT" : > transverter design original? could I see details? > > 11 November would be a possibility for me to monitor for you. > > 73, > > Jim > ---- Rik Strobbe wrote: >> Hello Jim, >> >> > Not tonight, Rik--I am committed to compared 160 WSPR with VE2DC in >> > Quebec (who will also be >> > Participating in the 500 kHz experiments and has already copied an >> > M0 there); anyhow, I >> > Have to leave before 2200 for a meeting this evening. Tx is on 160 >> > WSPR and I'll turn spotting back >> > on as I leave the house. (Still dial-up around here, so it's either >> > internet or telephone!) >> > >> > Would be happy to do it some other evening, though! >> No problem, we will try another night. >> >> >> > How do you generate a WSPR signal on 500 kHz? >> Kenwood TS440 on 4.5MHz into a homebrew transverter 4.5MHz --> =20 >> 500kHz + 50W PA >> >> 73, Rik ON7YD >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD083-b8c4af1cce613c; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:50:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD076-b8c4af1cce613c; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:50:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N5kus-0007Ek-Oz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:49:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N5kus-0007Eb-92 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:49:10 +0000 Received: from gv-out-0910.google.com ([216.239.58.186]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N5ktZ-0004V4-T6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:47:50 +0000 Received: by gv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c6so1046513gvd.38 for ; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:49:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=BTnbsFBuECzyt914fyt5uVYHy3mDanJP/W40mfopNLY=; b=lFUhExBMBLsd8jRniFQ7H+9uspy+TQhzVxc1f6dvBdZWn3P6HNc8ytfGDDc0ZzxsqA O/7kzFsngq0aYtvRxhb0FdG7IN4nRbf1cX6qFTlbaacpSgBfhr/I5tHoJh83Y7jeDVou f27DQ61U/Ou0gRjMvITRV5Z6RceRXY9z715LU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ZaI0eZz+G9qwHby3cVeD/Pb8lNcyHbvVINsV6GaBLd+jowEYLn5uXBPZlvE+AcKOXj ufGfd2/eAfe18Tn8TcxeKjIW3A9DXZ/HGogxgiL3CyoQJTlx9fVRwfnMkk6e7W96Ayr7 XYimfvhyTZkBKzwH9oPerXJ84KN1jeZ4cijxA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.170.28 with SMTP id q28mr197420hbe.149.1257360548216; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:49:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:49:08 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, ukmicrowaves@yahoogroups.com X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: "Poisson, Shannon, and the Radio Amateur" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f27bfcd4c08c0477901088 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d245.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001485f27bfcd4c08c0477901088 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks to all who responded, I do now have an E-copy. 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--001485f27bfcd4c08c0477901088-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (rly-ma01.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.44]) by air-ma07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA072-88a4aef49e19b; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:07:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA014-88a4aef49e19b; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:06:43 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N545k-0001VZ-Hd for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:05:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N545k-0001VQ-4k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:05:32 +0000 Received: from mailout01.t-online.de ([194.25.134.80]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N544H-0002Ev-Ls for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:04:02 +0000 Received: from fwd08.aul.t-online.de by mailout01.t-online.de with smtp id 1N545h-0008K1-02; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:05:29 +0100 Received: from df2py (E4KsU0ZBQhXadwzLwIu5pNnyJnIsqrsd-BbxxtoXpR6XFj4YoWXILYqKvnA6-3+ZxB@[80.187.101.101]) by fwd08.t-online.de with esmtp id 1N545R-0SMVlI0; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:05:13 +0100 From: "Wolf Ostwald" To: Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:06:48 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcpcAGRjzK57SRscROO72HbsH/1flA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-ID: E4KsU0ZBQhXadwzLwIu5pNnyJnIsqrsd-BbxxtoXpR6XFj4YoWXILYqKvnA6-3+ZxB X-TOI-MSGID: 0a6bd68f-3129-44c5-9bef-b51528375ccd X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: DI2BJ improved antenna Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0022_01CA5C08.C8751310" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01CA5C08.C8751310 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi folks ! I improved the ground system of the DI2BJ beacon on 505,030 kHz. I used a pipe into a deep water well for extra ground, measured some serious RF-current going into the wire connecting the water well. I hope this is a good sign ! Hope for more RX reports on the beacon, it will be active for a few hours after sundown and before sunrise. A reliable pattern will be established after initial testing and experience with the transmitting gear ! good MF and LF - DX for everybody ! de wolf df2py / DI2BJ ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01CA5C08.C8751310 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi folks !

I improved the ground syst= em of the DI2BJ beacon on 505,030 kHz. I used a pipe into a deep water well for extra ground, me= asured some serious RF-current going into the wire connecting the water well.= I hope this is a good sign ! Hope for more RX reports on the beacon, it will= be active for a few hours after sundown and before sunrise. A reliable pattern= will be established after initial testing and experience with the transmitting gear ! good= MF and LF  - DX for everybody !    de wolf  df2py /= DI2BJ

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_0022_01CA5C08.C8751310-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me05.mx.aol.com (rly-me05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.39]) by air-me09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME091-9bb4aff0f5d49; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:13:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME057-9bb4aff0f5d49; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:13:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9Oyv-0000k7-Mi for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:12:25 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9Oyv-0000jy-3F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:12:25 +0000 Received: from rekin26.go2.pl ([193.17.41.76]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9Oyt-0005zt-0r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:12:25 +0000 Received: from rekin26.go2.pl (rekin26.go2.pl [127.0.0.1]) by rekin26.go2.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36C2135D7C4 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:12:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from unknown (unknown [10.0.0.142]) by rekin26.go2.pl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:12:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from 58-178-124-188.rev.pro-internet.pl [188.124.178.58] by poczta.o2.pl with ESMTP id YGnhnb; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:12:20 +0100 Message-ID: <00af01ca6566$c4b3fcc0$3ab27cbc@niurhaxf0xcqlj> From: "Marcin" To: References: <004001ca646a$c6ec0cf0$3ab27cbc@niurhaxf0xcqlj> <006401ca64af$954964f0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:12:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-O2-Trust: 2, 62 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: sp2kds Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Andrey, LF Very thanks for capture SP2KDS Andrey. -- Vy 73! Marcin SQ2BXI > Hello Marcin, LF, > Strong signal SP2KDS. > > 73 Andrey > > > Dear LF > > Station SP2KDS will be today started from 21:00 on 137.700 (qrss3) and later > > 137.778 kHz (qrss60). > > In time 20:00-21:00 search stations on 500kHz band. > > -- > > Vy 73! > > Marcin SQ2BXI > > (SP2KDS Team) > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg11.mx.aol.com (rly-dg11.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.95]) by air-dg03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG033-6044b08f86f109; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:38:28 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG115-6044b08f86f109; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:38:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NC7wW-0000fn-NG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:37:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NC7wW-0000fe-Ce for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:37:12 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NC7wV-0002i3-Kp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:37:12 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA0244C8054 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:37:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA76F4C8103 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:37:05 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B08F831.8000009@online.fr> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:37:05 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: T/A [137 kHz] good conditions ! ( also ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF, Good conditions last night on 137 Khz ! "XDV" (G3XDV) dfcw60 ( on the european widows ) "KDS" (SP2KDS) qrss120 "XKO" (WD2XKO) qrss60 ( visible after 21:00utc ) "XGJ" (WD2XGJ) qrss60 "BOJ" (F8BOJ) qrss60 ( monstrous signal Claude ! ) 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (rly-ma03.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.47]) by air-ma10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA103-89e4b007cb795; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:12:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA038-89e4b007cb795; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:12:09 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9nJW-0002Pu-Nj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:11:18 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9nJW-0002Pc-7H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:11:18 +0000 Received: from mcgi72.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.209]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9nJU-0001tX-Hf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:11:18 +0000 Received: from mcgi72.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi72.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4ED21156E for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:11:10 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [91.77.88.87] by mcgi72.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:11:10 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:11:10 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <710152697.1258253442.86168408.14505@mcgi73.rambler.ru> <1091396655.1258293502.52410104.19007@mcgi61.rambler.ru> Message-Id: <959653683.1258323070.39654936.25212@mcgi72.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 137kHz grabber in SP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 G/E Jacek, LF! Looked your grabber now. OE5ODL and SP2KDX in QRSS-3 and 10 visible are very good and there is no ANY drift now! Your need to warm up your rx before use on 136 some hours up to finish drift. The real freq rule +/- more informative then voice-freq scale. We are don't know your dial freq and very difficult to calculate. Look to http://ra3yo.narod.ru/graber.html pse. His rx drifted more 5h some time! But he realize a real freq rule for more information. I wish you more success into grabber building! TNX for a new 137 kHz grabber. 73! Roman * Roman RW3ADB [Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:58:22 +0300]: > * Jacek Lipkowski [Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:15:14 > +0100 (CET)]: > > On Sun, 15 Nov 2009, Roman RW3ADB wrote: > > > > > Congratulation with the grabber started! > > > > Thanks! > > > > > Put your QTH locator to the page next time. > > > > It's on the left bottom side. The locator is KO02md > > overlooked, excuse! -) > > > > And put "offset" to Spectrum lab pse for the screening a real freq > > rule. > > > > This is a problem. The EKV03 drifts alot, and that would require me to > > either show an inaccurate frequency scale, or to recalibrate it > against > > a > > frequency generator every few hours. Better to leave it as it is. > > How many time is need to standby? > My FT897D have a visible drift in mode-120 only around 0.3-0.1 Hz per 10 > minutes. > Degen 1103 was drifted on 137 kHz around 2h and 1.5h on 500 to finished > visible drift into mode-3. > > > EW6GB on the grabber now (9 local time!) > > overslept ) > > > VY 73 > > > > Jacek / SQ5BPF > > > > > > TNX for details! > > 73! -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb05.mx.aol.com (rly-mb05.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.163]) by air-mb01.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMB013-d064b0b26f5204; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:21:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB052-d064b0b26f5204; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:21:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCj87-0003Nk-Ux for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:19:39 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCj87-0003Nb-3J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:19:39 +0000 Received: from nina.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.76]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCj84-0006Pm-JR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:19:39 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by nina.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id nAO0JTOn011942 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:49:29 -0330 Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:49:29 -0330 (NST) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: MRC Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-1719232024-193270360-1259021969=:4587" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ---1719232024-193270360-1259021969=:4587 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Hi Lubos, Thank-you for the FB report which is surprising considering my 'poor' TX aerial and earthing system. 73 Joe On Mon, 23 Nov 2009, Lubos OK2BVG wrote: > > > > > > > Hello Joe, Rik, LF! > MRC signal is as strong as EU QRSS station now. It is unbelievable! > > Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS > > **** BTW *** > "The strong vertical lines are "made in Sweden" ;-)" > > Rik, where are this vertical lines in your grabber from? I saw somethink= similar here as well. > Those lines was very strong, periodic and they finished around the midni= ght. > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows 7: Zjedodu=B9te si ka=BEdodenn=ED =FAkoly. Kter=FD po=E8=EDta=E8= je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD? > http://windows.microsoft.com/shop ---1719232024-193270360-1259021969=:4587-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me01.mx.aol.com (rly-me01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.34]) by air-me07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME074-9974af9b4262fa; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:43:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME013-9974af9b4262fa; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:42:48 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7vfK-0008UV-6z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:42:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7vfJ-0008UL-FQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:42:05 +0000 Received: from smtp824.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.9]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7veW-0000JC-Jc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:41:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 48104 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2009 18:41:57 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=oWD+0Pafe/sZFQnYY543i/hGUYG94rjOrA2bHOpfdocbynNNRpoLHJxGcm25GibmA87UfbJjZVzH3G20eDo8KsX08iOhAk7C9mazbmAnO4POckOB/s/9XpNBalLCRKyMZSYyG70Bjb+7EySH484/sLDJ5c2vdfRKRQmUBGoNP+c= ; Received: from unknown (HELO IBM7FFA209F07C) (c.ashby435@81.152.249.223 with login) by smtp824.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Nov 2009 18:41:56 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: 9STUSnaswBBSd6nO_2gAC20jmYlWRjmg8d5iYd8s.rl181aR6Sw- X-YMail-OSG: brcHXxAVM1k4ldkugZD70USf80Z1gkyktr6Dk2AkhgQN63awq31WNqDlRpppzZN3WevHFqOVegdJLa4Ps6n0gGqiaUC3W3R_YRC07qK2ghZb6nVLB.sSvuGTKdsZpV_pPvzpcpYv.ZquI9XNgrJt_qwcmuxkoXfUUREUSFdStp2FgV4EOTEoSQZdRLYHRMyK0Qqgk2MScqDR3rJTrLduOqYLT52KbJF36ROauJ_NhcfRRjHVPbOCOHM5jaA_sGyDxGbmOhiukLE4e2ypAxBO0SUEyY6yTTX2ocKBZg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "Chris" To: References: <112811.74996.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <003801ca6232$239b5630$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:41:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0028_01CA6235.7B7DEF40" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.4 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING, LINES_OF_YELLING_2 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01CA6235.7B7DEF40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mal, Some while ago when I commented a strong signal in the band and in bea= con mode was causing me problems, you quickly told me I was talking no= nsense, saying I wouldn't have such problems if I had a decent filter! Chris, G4AYT. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 6:18 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Dennis These Beacon Appliance unattended machine operators are causing QRM= galore to the Radio Amateur in QSO mode. The present band has insufficient bandwidth to accommodate unattende= d beacon modes, with real time QSO'S one can avoid QRM or QRX until th= e QRG is clear, whereas Beacons just belch out repeative gibberish and= the same persons respond via the reflector daily with the same old re= ports. You are quite right to make your point known.=20 73 de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 4:12 PM Subject: LF: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Congratulations Chris. Most wspr stations seem to congregate at the top end of the band= and are not too much trouble. Jim G7NKS is the biggest pain as he= sits on my xtl frequency and is so close. Maybe a compromise would= be for people using beacons to keep to one segment of the band (hopef= ully not 502.2 kHz -hee) 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Chris Osborn=20 To: LF Group=20 Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 6:03 PM Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO LF It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using= 600m. This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which wer= e 600m / 80m. Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 an= d EI0CF - No. 998. QSO break-down according to mode: 928 CW, 34 RTTY and 5= QRSS 600m STATIONS My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations= and many of these go back to the start of the UK 600m allocation in= March 2007. Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (exclu= ding beacons). Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never hea= rd of again: G3KZU, G3YHV . . . Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT: G3= UNT, G3VTT, G4GDR. . . MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work th= e same stations many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of= my total contacts. My most frequently worked stations are: GW3UEP - 120 G3KEV - 102 M0FMT - 90 G3ZWH - 80 = (alas now SK) G3DXZ - 67 G4GDR - 60 EI0CF/ GI4DPE - 51 M0J= XM - 48 G3UNT - 45 G3VTT - 38 CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy= a cross-band QSO: DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . . and our few EU MF friends are still active: ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . . WSPR ON 600m I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm fo= r the WSPR mode was never achieved for hand sent Morse (CW), which af= ter all is the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF= marine band. If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger sta= tions operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m ban= d then I guess it may be time for me to QSY. 73 Chris G3XIZ ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01CA6235.7B7DEF40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Mal,
Some while ago when I commented a str= ong signal in=20 the band and in beacon mode was causing me problems, you quickly told= me I was=20 talking nonsense, saying I wouldn't have such problems if I had a dece= nt=20 filter!
Chris, G4AYT.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mal=20 hamilton
Sent: Tuesday, November 10,= 2009 6:18=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: G3XIZ -= 1000 th MF=20 QSO

Dennis
These Beacon Appliance unattended= machine=20 operators are causing QRM galore to the Radio Amateur in QSO=20 mode.
The present band has insufficient= bandwidth to=20 accommodate unattended beacon modes, with real time QSO'S one can av= oid QRM or=20 QRX until the QRG is clear, whereas Beacons just belch out repeative= gibberish=20 and the same persons respond via the reflector daily with the same= old=20 reports.
You are quite right&= nbsp;to make=20 your point known.
73 de mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 10,= 2009 4:12=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: G3XIZ - 10= 00 th MF=20 QSO

Congratulations Chris.
 
Most wspr stations seem to congre= gate at the=20 top end of the band and are not too much trouble.   = ;=20 Jim G7NKS is the biggest pain= as he sits on=20 my xtl frequency and is so close.   Maybe a compromise= would be=20 for people using beacons to keep to one segment of the band (hopef= ully not=20 502.2 kHz -hee)
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 08= , 2009 6:03=20 PM
Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000= th MF=20 QSO

LF

It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 10= 00th QSO=20 using 600m.
This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually= all of=20 which were 600m / 80m.

Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with= runners=20 up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0CF - No. 998.

QSO break-down ac= cording to=20 mode:     928 CW,  34 RTTY  and &n= bsp; 5=20 QRSS

600m=20 STATIONS

My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists= a total of=20 59 stations and many of= these go=20 back to the start of the UK  600m allocation in March 2007.=
Of=20 these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excludin= g=20 beacons).
Many stations on my list came up only briefly and= were never=20 heard of again:  G3KZU, G3YHV . . .
Others were once ver= y active=20 but have subsequently gone QRT:  G3UNT, G3VTT, G4GDR. .=20 .

MOST FREQUEN= TLY=20 WORKED

With so few active operators it is obvious= that one=20 will work the same stations many times and the top 10 stations= account for=20 70% of my total contacts.
My most frequently worked stations= =20 are:

GW3UEP - 120     G3KEV -=20 102      M0FMT - 90   &n= bsp;=20 G3ZWH  -  80  (alas now SK)
G3DXZ  &= nbsp;=20 -   67     G4GDR -  =20 60      EI0CF/ GI4DPE  - =20 51   M0JXM - 48
G3UNT    - &nbs= p;=20 45     G3VTT  -   38

<= SPAN style=3D"TEXT-DECORATION: underline">CROSS-BAND AND EU=20 STATIONS

There are a few 'regular' stations who li= sten to=20 600m and enjoy a cross-band QSO:
DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ,= PA0LCE,=20 G3TVF . . .

and our few EU MF friends are still active:ON4KTJ,=20 OR7T and OZ8NJ. . .

WSPR=20 ON 600m

I personally find it sad that the present= level of=20 enthusiasm for the WSPR mode was never achieved for  hand= sent Morse=20 (CW), which after all is the mode which I call to mind when thin= king of=20 the old MF marine band.
If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts,= with more=20 and stronger stations operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment= which is=20 the 600m band then I guess it may be time for me to QSY.

= 73 Chris=20 G3XIZ







<= BR>
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Any dx watchers/listeners about tonit= e? I will be=20 qrv on CW and QRS3 later.
QRG 502.57 and QSX 7033
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------=_NextPart_000_00EF_01CA63AE.EDE9C3E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME032-9d64afd86f755; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:19:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME092-9d64afd86f755; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:19:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8yqT-0003a6-9e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:17:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8yqS-0003Zx-QV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:17:56 +0000 Received: from web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.123]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8yqS-0007bp-H6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:17:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 39068 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Nov 2009 16:17:50 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1258129069; bh=/P129sEOPBPhCaPHF/q7polIk3EgA8/zUuSYWBfVHtg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LHys0QAWqPhfshWl87e/CMn6riN6Hh1qH3M9m4Keqqece7VgCUAYHiVmkOQfDV7hTHWENYyZCXr8g4YarZXtTqGYZ2PMd+DlvrE4A3SZ28FjCRgh4HgmX46O/qXJqu8850ZDNc9lTcHcKfH+I8gTEpFJWEre0rhOhR0G1BSmP14= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=C6DoYDpGxMohgHzXKkEyJgr/IlLiyN8AlM+HmgMHC77+UMamSd0Br/TiEkLPQG2z5BZEJhI2QR6lXJ+jGWEP8j1mjGes8POZHIy8+gD9n9XY4LBQz7LHleTZOSHAD+7xocsiBgn85fzqtnNYnqCQe/OUj3j2UWpqxPRsDIt3PSU=; Message-ID: <961313.39040.qm@web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: xCo6zwsVM1n322dl2XRtsZ77Mi5vU0C4LBxjl9j9hZN5oHJ222wQ2uSvVhNI.379.LS4OZduYbMugPRoA33ckqKPuuRcA3nTULBsUjYabVjkJhp.Wu7U2UsG__G2x.StZcoHoqoxwvnYf.NQi9qgEbgTtr7lRAfCGkmJLaFUiihflPOdAgcMAk4CKJ5BTU66NQF0WBxCLv2BrT8hdgV0xjyH2zTm6XUvc3qC4tepFIzhTFxnJl1NRlqBz6l6xeaQA5.39sdsqQsQfW2uiLYMzfMJuJVXtT6glf1EZJwBouISDNywI2oI9ur5INkjhK7L2ltRFVZUVFdLbw-- Received: from [86.152.86.139] by web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:17:49 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:17:49 -0800 (PST) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1182672792-1258129069=:39040" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d247.1 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-1182672792-1258129069=:39040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi LF Group =A0 Putting Quantum Mechanics aside for a mo. I know this is bit academic sinc= e my chance of working the Americas on 500 is pretty remote but are these= stations Amateurs or not Amateurs? Are they actually Pirating but using= a commercial call?=20 =A0 The whole setup looks=A0decidedly dodgy to me. If they are Pirates how wou= ld it affect my license if the opportunity arose for me to work one and I= did? The only place I know where I am licensed work a non Amateur station= is on 5megs and that=A0can only be a UK Mill station. =A0 It's a question of how much you value your license I suppose. =A0 73 petefmt --- On Fri, 13/11/09, Graham wrote: From: Graham Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature st= ations ?? To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 14:53 Scott SO.... Matter and antimatter cannot coexist at close range for more than= a small fraction of a second because they collide with and annihilate eac= h other, releasing large quantities of energy in the form of gamma rays Got it=A0 now .. gamma rays are electromagnetic ..hence radio waves are pr= oduced .. which may suffer=A0 (constructive interference) or (destructive= interference) resulting in large variations in amplitude at the point of= observation ..... Thanks=A0 ! G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott Tilley" Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:29 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Are the=A0 new VE stations able to=A0 qso=A0 with=A0 othe= r amature stations ?? >=20 > Hi John >=20 > VX is in developmental service (same idea as US stations), EI in amateur= service... Like positive and negative antimatter they don't mix. >=20 > 73 Scott >=20 >=20 > John P-G wrote: >> Scott Tilley wrote: >>> Hi Graham >>>=20 >>> All Canadian 600m stations are operating under COMMERCIAL Developmenta= l Licenses and are not able to communicate with the Amateur Service. >>=20 >> So VX9MRC shouldn't be having regular CW QSOs with EI0CF? >>=20 >> Still confused.... >>=20 >> John >> GM4SLV >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 =20 --0-1182672792-1258129069=:39040 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi LF Group
 
Putting Quantum Mechanics aside for a mo. I know this is bit ac= ademic since my chance of working the Americas on 500 is pretty remote but= are these stations Amateurs or not Amateurs? Are they actually Pirating= but using a commercial call?
 
The whole setup looks decidedly dodgy to me. If they are= Pirates how would it affect my license if the opportunity arose for me to= work one and I did? The only place I know where I am licensed work a non= Amateur station is on 5megs and that can only be a UK Mill station.<= /SPAN>
 
It's a question of how much you value your license I suppose.
 
73 petefmt


--- On Fri, 13/11/09, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.u= k> wrote:

From: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able= to qso with other amature stations ??
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 14:53

Scott

SO.... Matter and antimatter cannot co= exist at close range for more than a small fraction of a second because th= ey collide with and annihilate each other, releasing large quantities of= energy in the form of gamma rays

Got it  now .. gamma rays ar= e electromagnetic ..hence radio waves are produced .. which may suffer&nbs= p; (constructive interference) or (destructive interference) resulting in= large variations in amplitude at the point of observation .....

Th= anks  !

G ..

------------------------------------------= --------
From: "Scott Tilley" <sthed475@telus.net>
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:29 PM=
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Subject: Re: LF: Are the = new VE stations able to  qso  with  other amature stations= ??

>
> Hi John
>
> VX is in developmental= service (same idea as US stations), EI in amateur service... Like positiv= e and negative antimatter they don't mix.
>
> 73 Scott
>= ;
>
> John P-G wrote:
>> Scott Tilley wrote:
>= ;>> Hi Graham
>>>
>>> All Canadian 600m sta= tions are operating under COMMERCIAL Developmental Licenses and are not ab= le to communicate with the Amateur Service.
>>
>> So VX= 9MRC shouldn't be having regular CW QSOs with EI0CF?
>>
>&= gt; Still confused....
>>
>> John
>> GM4SLV>>
>>
>
>




=20 --0-1182672792-1258129069=:39040-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc01.mx.aol.com (rly-mc01.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.85]) by air-mc03.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMC033-d534b11059b187; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 06:12:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC013-d534b11059b187; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 06:12:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NELDJ-0003hO-QA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:11:41 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NELDJ-0003hC-7s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:11:41 +0000 Received: from psmtp08.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.22]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NELDH-0006bE-9r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:11:41 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp08.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KTT00JD7GF9I8@psmtp08.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 12:11:33 +0100 (MET) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 12:10:55 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: <742FDC1EB26A473F980353AA7755E1D1@ns94d01ae4d850> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: XKO 28-11.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_vYTXKPTpuW5nLEoH1bf5Iw)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --Boundary_(ID_vYTXKPTpuW5nLEoH1bf5Iw) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ItnH4uwD2qg9Zgcs2ydPLQ)" --Boundary_(ID_ItnH4uwD2qg9Zgcs2ydPLQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi Dex,LF Capture xko henny pa3cpm best 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: XKO 28-11.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. --Boundary_(ID_ItnH4uwD2qg9Zgcs2ydPLQ) Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Hi Dex,LF
Capture xko
henny pa3cpm
best 73s
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<7B9E530A13DE479BA05DFA579C50586F@JimPC> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <590EA4755AB54809BC2887F55D65D99A@AGB> <9afca2640911181055y33bb49e4q7707d46e339826b0@mail.gmail.com> <1519387EC57944BE82527527C2D6184D@AGB> In-Reply-To: <1519387EC57944BE82527527C2D6184D@AGB> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:21:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: T61AA 0.503929 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Graham, LF Group, T61AA is bona fide and QRV on HF WSPR mode, apparently on 40m at the moment - I reckon S51CN has not updated his frequency information correctly. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 7:10 PM Subject: Re: LF: T61AA 0.503929 To quote ' This is not a drill .. This is the real thing '.. Is your RX on ? G ... T61AA Ross B Shasdarak Kabul, Afghanistan From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDC104-b3b4b12bcc21ea; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:26:28 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC087-b3b4b12bcc21ea; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:26:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEoSR-0002po-KY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:25:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEoSR-0002pf-4U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:25:15 +0000 Received: from lnx500.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de ([130.83.156.225]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEoSP-0004ON-5t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:25:15 +0000 Received: from FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.212.129]) by lnx500.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.14.2/8.14.2/HRZ/PMX) with SMTP id nATIPBN7007910 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:25:12 +0100 (envelope-from schaefer@hst.tu-darmstadt.de) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de) by FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de with AVK MailGateway; for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:25:12 +0100 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:25:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AA6E@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> In-Reply-To: <003701ca70d9$6487b570$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: LF Propagation literature? Thread-Index: Acpw2jjwuF0jnzeYT7ucRZCELiTCGQARkt6g From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= To: X-AVK-Virus-Check: AVB 19.596;29.11.2009 X-PMX-TU: seen v0.99a by 5.5.8.383112, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2009.11.29.181218 X-PMX-SPAMCHECK: outgoing mail X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: LF Propagation literature? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Lowfers,=20 Is there any good literature in the web (web-site or pdf or book) about th= e propagation on LF? Best would be, if it is created by a ham for the hams= ! 73, Stefan/DK7FC =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb11.mx.aol.com (rly-mb11.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.169]) by air-mb01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB011-d374affde9c2b1; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:57:44 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB113-d374affde9c2b1; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:57:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9cmX-0005je-K1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:56:33 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9cmX-0005jV-5d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:56:33 +0000 Received: from fmmailgate04.web.de ([217.72.192.242]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9cmV-00072d-7T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:56:33 +0000 Received: from web.de by fmmailgate04.web.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 520FB620F4AA for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:56:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from [91.55.49.210] by freemailng2503.web.de with HTTP; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:56:25 +0100 Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:56:25 +0100 Message-Id: <1484283699@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: =?iso-8859-15?Q?Horst_St=F6cker?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Organization: http://freemail.web.de/ X-Provags-Id: V01U2FsdGVkX1+kNpV+wewUSr916Q6ZXmhiaq3aEPmf26SdecsGx0AeC0wns CehGxAGgb0whRQn35ravz4uiKfWVLHXYZ4BjT2bEA8etqFTUZAFRkSelNSXG Q== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: SP2KDS - Not any idea what the additional signs mean ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thanks Marcin. I'll be watching for your signs tonight. But what made me ask was not that traditional CW but QRSS3 like the hole= transmission. If you dont' have the grabs I sent before, I can sent them ones more. vy73 Horst > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: "Marcin" > Gesendet: 15.11.09 11:02:05 > An: > Betreff: LF: Re: SP2KDS - Not any idea what the additional signs mean ? > Dear Horst, LF > This is a traditional CW ID (15wpm) in introduction and end transmision= . > Tekst: SP2KDS. Local hams plised this ID. >=20 > Station SP2KDS will open today in the evening and at night:, on 137,700= and > 137,7785kHz. > -- > Vy 73! > Marcin SQ2BXI >=20 >=20 > Yesterday I sent some captures which show SP2KDS in QRSS3 with a good > signal - but some addional signs tht I can not interprete. > Anyone an idea? > Horst >=20 >=20 > _____________________________________________________________ > DSL-Preisknaller: DSL-Komplettpakete von WEB.DE schon f=FCr > 16,99 Euro/mtl.!* Hier klicken: http://produkte.web.de/go/02/ >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 ______________________________________________________ GRATIS f=FCr alle WEB.DE-Nutzer: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://movieflat.web.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me01.mx.aol.com (rly-me01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.34]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINME042-9974b1025572b3; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:15:50 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME013-9974b1025572b3; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:15:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NE6Gm-0006xD-15 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 19:14:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NE6Gl-0006x4-Kb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 19:14:15 +0000 Received: from web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com ([69.147.97.73]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NE6Gk-0002k9-An for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 19:14:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 5498 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Nov 2009 19:14:06 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1259349246; bh=hGBst6ENIA0/detLy4iN4gea0LpKBWnMV2mjYGDSOKs=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vBEUuPdu374xuSbxzkAhu9sgJyWSZ7/OitfXK07cM3G6E+rSG818lyCv2wfvVhTma9IwZBUS5t6jgw2iZloBd5JrYiksA+LueQBFt75B3Iwq4Vl5O/cuQn6m8DKSNVpvxUBtdVOjBb7f1tokEOvCkklARa+fEe3oO8errDUfiOE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FZPgL+waHkvopdyAk2/rkrn/ToY6aLg/KHW6al2gVT3HpejHqffjqovMaKReVPQGR5Glf/OD9gp5oqbRGTX47wwR/mWHYKxyFEQWfXVGOBQkhKDTirNfvb3kBVmDZVsWoGiu0Sz+zWwuS3Hizy0HLQ4v4wijtWmT4fmZ6s9BbTc=; Message-ID: <806352.5294.qm@web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: c9d7cSUVM1kE95T8_BEUD7qYtoz5B6h1M0LaLNycOEHkvCSct3cg66FeDEBxVOsqHQppRSG0CrZhW3uf8sp5_WxN17DWW4O_5wGzT_W7MISQHd1Rzpu52YhDlLBBztaFe0gHq.N1C1BF1qeUJyTPwA15auETj8xFE8VQKihA3IX7t4bMz8v4fe5YijRIgKBfgD3tecKfEvTUlzVnCmbp5VWX3yCu57sG5nrpj8l2r4MZaEN7jQern4u0OKY_WIXB0m3YdWh8iLvZ3fMeXI0PhhXATNp8ZX90QH3TCo_TykXmIX5TP5jxyNXkfzotUIk8DaEBKQKsxEWovC9Nv1MGsz6zXYR6kxDiJ5iURaHd3JlFAjj5jtDTZXPmuWJUjiCDGOii715Q3VbX8Cjq2NUSC9CfHDuAIx_2SrFdzL0AXYQ9fQ-- Received: from [98.70.117.41] by web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:14:06 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:14:06 -0800 (PST) From: Andy - KU4XR To: lowfer@mailman.qth.net, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: How do I use Spectrum Lab as a VLF Soft Receiver ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m269.1 ; domain : yahoo.com DKIM : fail Hello All: I have recently been trying to get a soundcard VLF receiver going. I found a SAQ receiver on the web designed by Johan - SM6LKM. It works good I suppose never having tried this before. I can hear " Radio noise " in other words, it actually sounds like a receiver. When I connect enough coils in series, with a variable cap to ground to make a pre-selector, The noise floor will rise 20 dB when I tune the Cap. and you can see the peak move across the spectrum display. However, that's as far as you can go, You can't choose a sound card, it automatically chooses the windows default card, and I haven't found a way to use DSP filtering with it, since everything is based on the sound card alone. Now for Spectrum Lab, It has a built in " SID " receiver, and the built in DSP filters work in the program. I just can't get it to work !!!!! All I can get is low freq. hum, or digital noise. It makes no difference with or without an Ant. I've changed sound card sample rates, and FFT settings, nothing works for me. Does anyone have any suggestions for me to try ?? Thank you. 73 to all ::: Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN. LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 185.29866 KHz ( QRSS-60 ) Coordinates: N: 35* 43' 54" - W: 84* 3' 16" http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr http://webpages.charter.net/ku4xr/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db10.mx.aol.com (rly-db10.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.85]) by air-db07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB073-af14b004b621e1; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:41:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB107-af14b004b621e1; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:41:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9k1r-0008Lo-LX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:40:51 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9k1r-0008Le-5V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:40:51 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9k1o-0000e2-UU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:40:51 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3528.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8ECAD1C0008E for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:40:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3528.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 818591C0008F for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:40:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.53.205]) by mwinf3528.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 381751C0008E for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:40:43 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091115184043229.381751C0008E@mwinf3528.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <0CADF4DD71FD43A2A8384463754F6344@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <1043CB7D895D4161B1C87CDD140332A2@AGB> In-Reply-To: <1043CB7D895D4161B1C87CDD140332A2@AGB> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:40:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: Re: LF: Running mW wspr Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_010B_01CA6623.227175B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_010B_01CA6623.227175B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2009-11-15 18:30 G0NBD 0.503898 -27 0 IO83lk 0.2 = GM4SLV IP90gg 766 7 =20 2009-11-15 18:32 G0NBD 0.503898 -28 0 IO83lk 0.2 = GM4SLV IP90gg 766 7 =20 Crazy system ..... spot just in from John ! tnx G .. =20 From: Graham=20 Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 6:24 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Running mW wspr Running wspr at 100 % duty , not sure of the power to the Ae as th= e needle on the power meter is not moving , the first 3 small div= isions on the bird43 are 10 watts , the needle is still inside the= -0- no rx as I have a set of spurs right over the wspr band at= the moment=20 spots from G4WGT 33k G3RIk 65k M0BMU 270 ! G ..=20 ------=_NextPart_000_010B_01CA6623.227175B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 2009-11-15 18:30   G0NBD   0.503898   -27   0   IO83lk   0.2   GM4SLV   IP90gg   766   7 
 2009-11-15 18:32   G0NBD   0.503898   -28   0   IO83lk   0.2   GM4SLV   IP90gg   766   7 
 
Crazy system .....  spot = just in from=20 John  !
 
tnx  G ..  
 
 

From: Graham
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 6:24 PM
Subject: LF: Running mW wspr

Running   wspr at 100 % dut= y , not sure=20 of the  power to the  Ae as the  needle on the  po= wer meter=20 is  not  moving , the  first 3 small divisions on= the =20 bird43 are 10 watts  , the needle is  still inside the = -0- =20 no rx as I have a set of  spurs  right over the  wspr= band =20 at the  moment
 
spots  from G4WGT 33k  G3RI= k  65k=20 M0BMU 270  !
 
G ..




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"'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'" Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:01:41 +0000 Thread-Topic: DK7FC/p calling CQ on 137.700KHz Thread-Index: AcpogZCfDB23Gg+4Rg22UU2Rmnq1ng== Message-ID: <254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C6EE369C@exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net> Accept-Language: en-US, en-GB Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US, en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 172.27.136.25 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: DK7FC/p calling CQ on 137.700KHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Jim you cant really calculate these thing s becayuse there are just to many varibles. The only way it to measure the loss of the untuned aerial with and rf bridge and then measure the same format out in the open...same ground same weather same season etc etc. The Yanks put their aerials through the trees because they use loops and the voltage on the wires in many order lower so the current lost to the tree is much smaller. (I think) Jim Moritz used to have some dramtic measurements taken on 136kHz before and after pruning his "aboretum" May thumbnail approack says put a vertical at least as far away from trees, walls, roofs etc as it is high. Not aways easy! Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Cowburn" To: Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 3:19 PM Subject: LF: Losses due to ant in tree? > Hi All, > > > > The vertical 5m section of my inverted L runs up into the branches of a > silver birch tree. The wire goes over a large bough at 5m or so and then > comes out of the branches for some 22m down to a 4m high pole attached to > the garage. > > > > Has anyone a guesstimation of the losses in signal caused by running the > wire through the tree? > > > > Using vertload and tophat2 I calculate the antenna to be around 0.25% > efficient but this assumes it is in free space. Can anyone suggest a figure > for the additional loss due to tree heating! > > > > The vertical element is actually sloping at about 20 degree from the tree > down to the loading coil. The length is nearer 6metres but the vertical > height over ground at the bough is about 5m. > > > > (Santa may be bringing me a set of swaged poles with which to build mark 2, > well away from the silver birch!) > > > > With best regards > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (rly-ma02.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.46]) by air-ma06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA062-8954b0703a02e4; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:01:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA027-8954b0703a02e4; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:01:22 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBaal-0001cC-B0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:00:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBaak-0001c3-TB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:00:30 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBaak-0002oH-92 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:00:30 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFF827B802A for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:00:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 925C531E702 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:00:20 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id 752CA18056; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:00:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from 65.13-180-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (65.13-180-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [91.180.13.65]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:00:20 +0100 Message-ID: <20091120220020.zn8j8euh7os4wgk8@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:00:20 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <20091120141648.8WGQY.1557635.root@mp17> <007f01ca6a1b$34a0b8d0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <009a01ca6a22$07a90470$0517aac0@desktop> In-Reply-To: <009a01ca6a22$07a90470$0517aac0@desktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 91.180.13.65 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR a QSO mode not just beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Jim, I agree. This is far more than the information that is exchanged in a =20 DX-pedition pile up, where the exchange is often limited to (a part =20 of) the calls and the obligatory 59(9) report. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting James Cowburn : > Dear All, > > According to the ARRL, WSPR contacts, if verified as two way, will quali= fy > towards DXCC awards as they consider these to be a QSO mode and not simp= ly a > beacon. > > As there is an exchange of callsign, locator and signal strength then th= at > was deemed sufficient by the ARRL to qualify for DXCC and as a QSO in a= data > mode much like RTTY or PSK31 for example. > > This was discussed at the recent RSGB conference in a session on WSPR. > > With best regards > > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton > Sent: 20 November 2009 19:54 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: Re: WD2XES WSPR 136.0 > > Recently there has been an upsurge in wspr BEACON appliance operators an= d > your suggested frequency area is not the place for them. The bottom end > would keep Beacon acty out of the way. There would still be room for the= odd > EU qrs operator, can't say I have heard many in recent years. The freq= area > 137 - 138 k/cs is frequently occupied by Russian and other EU dxers for > inter Country working using CW and QRS and 136.5 - 137 for local CW > working. > NA stns wishing to work EU would still use 137 - 138 on CW and QRS and= not > be clobbered by wspr carriers going ON/OFF. > I hope you see the logic > G3KEV > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:16 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Re: WD2XES WSPR 136.0 > > >> Thanks for the suggestion, but I doubt it will cause you any more > interference than it has for the last 5 years. From our perspective, the > lower end of the band has long been reserved for EU to NA operation. >> >> John, W1TAG >> >> ---- mal hamilton wrote: >> > om I woud suggest you Beacon at the extreme bottom end of the band an= d > not >> > in the middle of the CW and QRS DX portion. >> >> > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db06.mx.aol.com (rly-db06.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.81]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB103-acd4b0874e528; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:17:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB063-acd4b0874e528; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:16:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBzBa-0004Bs-H7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:16:10 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBzBa-0004Bj-3F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:16:10 +0000 Received: from smtp6.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.190]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBzBY-0003ix-RP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:16:10 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3603.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 630267000081 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:16:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3603.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 516577000083 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:16:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.50.96]) by mwinf3603.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 0E1A57000081 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:16:00 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091121231601578.0E1A57000081@mwinf3603.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <4A7814FFC4834A01841AEE5D333DFA75@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <785212.33618.qm@web28105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <4B086C3F.3080309@g3ysx.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <4B086C3F.3080309@g3ysx.org.uk> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:15:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR BEACONS Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Know I see why this is called 'the reflector' same old things just= keep=20 bouncing round ! Ps Quite a lot of funny calls on the lf/mf activity list ton= ight=20 ... not wspr 2 I hope ? -------------------------------------------------- From: "Stewart Bryant" Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 10:39 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: WSPR BEACONS > > M0FMT wrote: >> I am with Mal. WSPR has no place on the UK 501 / 504 Kc/s Amateur= =20 >> /_Communication_/ Band. The Norwegian Licence has got it right - CW= only! >> 73 petefmt > > > This is not what Ofcom calls it. In their recent consultation they= say: > > "Agenda Item 1.23 - Amateur Service in parts of the band 415 =96 526= .5 kHz > > "5.19 Radio amateurs use radio for experimental purposes and to prov= ide=20 > communications in support of emergency services in some situations." > > So unless we are supporting an emergency, 500KHz seems to be a band= for us=20 > to conduct experiments on. > > - Stewart/G3YSX > > >=20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD024-9134afd73771e8; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:56:09 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD073-9134afd73771e8; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:55:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8xWl-0002mx-B4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:53:31 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8xWk-0002mo-Lr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:53:30 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.128]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8xWi-0005qd-1x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:53:30 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3408.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8AFF21C00085 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:53:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3408.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7D9C71C00086 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:53:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.59.9]) by mwinf3408.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 39E681C00085 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:53:21 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091113145321237.39E681C00085@mwinf3408.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <2EB9AB3966984B91BB0C369B32CF12FC@AGB> <4AFCC936.9060800@telus.net> <4AFD125A.3060402@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <4AFD6D5F.3020302@telus.net> In-Reply-To: <4AFD6D5F.3020302@telus.net> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:53:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Scott SO.... Matter and antimatter cannot coexist at close range for more than a small fraction of a second because they collide with and annihilate each other, releasing large quantities of energy in the form of gamma rays Got it now .. gamma rays are electromagnetic ..hence radio waves are produced .. which may suffer (constructive interference) or (destructive interference) resulting in large variations in amplitude at the point of observation ..... Thanks ! G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott Tilley" Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:29 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? > > Hi John > > VX is in developmental service (same idea as US stations), EI in amateur > service... Like positive and negative antimatter they don't mix. > > 73 Scott > > > John P-G wrote: >> Scott Tilley wrote: >>> Hi Graham >>> >>> All Canadian 600m stations are operating under COMMERCIAL Developmental >>> Licenses and are not able to communicate with the Amateur Service. >> >> So VX9MRC shouldn't be having regular CW QSOs with EI0CF? >> >> Still confused.... >> >> John >> GM4SLV >> >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (rly-mf05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.175]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMF102-95c4b14271323f; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:12:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF052-95c4b14271323f; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:12:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NFCaM-0008Rl-46 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:11:02 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NFCaL-0008Rc-Nl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:11:01 +0000 Received: from mx01.infotech.at ([213.174.240.1]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NFCaL-0003Lm-3r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:11:01 +0000 Received: from [213.174.228.217] by mx01.infotech.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NFCaK-0005z7-1t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:11:00 +0100 Message-ID: <4B1426ED.8000707@inext.at> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:11:25 +0100 From: Oberreiter Oswald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4B140806.10012.1E82610@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> In-Reply-To: <4B140806.10012.1E82610@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: DX test 136.318kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) hallo mike ! your transmission xdv 10-15 db o.n. qsb 73 oe5odl jn68rd Mike Dennison schrieb: > I will be transmitting "XDV" overnight (1800 - 0900 UTC) tonight > using QRSS60 on 136.3180kHz. DX reports are welcome. > > Mike. G3XDV > ========== > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (rly-mf03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.173]) by air-mf06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF063-9524b0979b327f; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:49:50 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF038-9524b0979b327f; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:49:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCGYC-0004F0-CR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:48:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCGYC-0004Er-0Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:48:40 +0000 Received: from mailout03.t-online.de ([194.25.134.81]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCGYB-0005H8-EL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:48:39 +0000 Received: from fwd06.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.t-online.de with smtp id 1NCGY8-0004Xt-04; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:48:36 +0100 Received: from e7010 (Vmd+zeZCYhRWRpgUGxQzQFddHx51LlKd6FeeDezMpgur9q4bkEZ+lwAQfd1oYF7ZGR@[84.147.190.15]) by fwd06.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1NCGY2-1PDWlM0; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:48:30 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01ca6b9c$013681a0$6402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:48:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: Vmd+zeZCYhRWRpgUGxQzQFddHx51LlKd6FeeDezMpgur9q4bkEZ+lwAQfd1oYF7ZGR X-TOI-MSGID: fc52a95e-5aff-4980-92b8-80a523410cef X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: DI2AG WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6BA4.62B63F80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6BA4.62B63F80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear MF, DI2AG beacon is on air in WSPR with 0.4W ERP, duty cycle 33%= . Stops tomorrow morning. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6BA4.62B63F80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear MF,
      =     DI2AG beacon is on=20 air in WSPR with 0.4W ERP, duty cycle 33%. Stops tomorrow morning.
73    Walter DI2AG /= =20 DJ2LF
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6BA4.62B63F80-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (rly-mf07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.177]) by air-mf08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF084-96c4b09f10b32b; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:19:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF072-96c4b09f10b32b; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:18:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCOV0-0007Rt-28 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:17:54 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCOUz-0007Rk-Ir for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:17:53 +0000 Received: from col0-omc1-s6.col0.hotmail.com ([65.55.34.16]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCOUx-0007Yn-Ol for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:17:53 +0000 Received: from COL122-W23 ([65.55.34.8]) by col0-omc1-s6.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:17:42 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:17:42 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Nov 2009 02:17:42.0098 (UTC) FILETIME=[22E9DB20:01CA6BE3] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_e9ba1654-7ccf-4be6-b746-fb61fd889b0c_" Subject: LF: WD2XKO_RA3YO X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --_e9ba1654-7ccf-4be6-b746-fb61fd889b0c_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_fa64f5bd-61b3-4c18-b20f-6717f67d66c3_" --_fa64f5bd-61b3-4c18-b20f-6717f67d66c3_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Joe, Dmitry, LF! I have just captured signal from WD2XKO and RA3YO on the same snapshot. Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS =20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: Kter=FD po=E8=EDta=E8 je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD? Dal=B9=ED infor= mace. http://windows.microsoft.com/shop=3D --_fa64f5bd-61b3-4c18-b20f-6717f67d66c3_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Joe, Dmitry, LF!
I have just captured  signal from WD2XKO an= d RA3YO  on the same snapshot.

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:46:29 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <001101ca7028$c9a70750$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: References: <4B1007CD.13398.2751AC@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 12:45:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Test 136.318 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01CA7028.B28BF580" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01CA7028.B28BF580 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Mike, LF, I have late switched on the receiver. Only the transfer termination... 73 Andrey >I am testing this evening by sending 'X' at QRSS120 on 136.3180kHz. > If all goes well I will transmit until about 2230UTC. 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------=_NextPart_000_0575_01CA66B7.5C772180-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (rly-mg05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.111]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG102-a154afc6e443db; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:21:44 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG057-a154afc6e443db; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:21:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8g94-0007Sh-AG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:19:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8g93-0007SY-PJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:19:53 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8g93-0000KX-5E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 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inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 87.64.102.123 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: ENI model 240L Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello all, I am looking for the circuit diagram of the ENI model 240L amplifier. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC031-b334b09bccb350; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:36:18 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC077-b334b09bccb350; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:35:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCL1M-00069S-1F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:35:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCL1L-00069J-LO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:35:03 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCL1K-0006Sr-H8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 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RA3YO I believe- at 6200Kms
 
Im listening to DCF39 at the moment and the= qsb rate is=20 quicker than recent and some dBs down on this 7600kms path my pre dawn= . Perhaps=20 things arent as bad as I feared...!
 
Good morning! Laurence KL1 X in BY3A Tanngu= China=20 OM89UA
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Bodin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <2746F3E144D3480AB85CD466920B1313@lindavideo> In-Reply-To: <2746F3E144D3480AB85CD466920B1313@lindavideo> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 4kv diode Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) On the topic of unusual diodes... http://www.avtechpulse.com/faq.html 73 Johan SM6LKM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db10.mx.aol.com (rly-db10.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.85]) by air-db07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB074-af24b054803366; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:29:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB108-af24b054803366; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:28:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NB71N-0008MA-M8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:26:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NB71N-0008M1-AJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:26:01 +0000 Received: from mail-gx0-f210.google.com ([209.85.217.210]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NB71H-0007Ef-D9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:26:01 +0000 Received: by gxk2 with SMTP id 2so191488gxk.4 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:25:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=24hLezp0Xnv0mjB6DNBj2zqiat4tsIbobhITGE5wyHQ=; b=dOkVbEvULlvRaHnu7SaKwJP1Bwb6Aax4R+W7lMLZi/HewraUE8aUA4g3gaQMmVE82G T0Zf50ty2TACt3tbfq1hooaccFVPS+7YqAblbOQTfDWL8URniCzYFfTC5RRhKhu3U/tp RU+SkC3UD6Lkyum4KgwS9h7y+IgWLBNRegHAg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=IehnmjoR+fJ7Vdjvu+delENIVVT79hVwFw29KtQTfv8Nup/wnGGOndfMVnvhUMKOqs gtVNZHGd+VKbyr915ws1v+vu4KQfpuuz+3VrYY1x9tUndI3UnZZzGGQG+NSX63kVOmC5 oeVVzxyfz5nkkTeYJxJ4KDdPWe+7mAHGjkoVM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.19.4 with SMTP id 4mr78192ybs.216.1258637139598; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:25:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B04EADA.4090707@telus.net> References: <4B04EADA.4090707@telus.net> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:25:39 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70911190525s5bbf2768gcfe5e7150eb8f784@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: Joe don't drop the soap! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d255.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) The Canadian sense of humor, how's it goin eh? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-ZvAVcBIrQ Take off for The Great White North! - 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 1:51 AM, Scott Tilley wrote: > See the 600m Buttulator for the latest in this high seas drama... > > RAC speaks... > > 73 Scott > http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/ > > - From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME081-9dc4b06dff647; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:29:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME098-9dc4b06dff647; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:29:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBYCt-0008WL-CJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:27:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBYCt-0008WC-0w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:27:43 +0000 Received: from out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.240]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBYCs-0001oa-Ea for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:27:43 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgcFAAZuBktOlMup/2dsb2JhbACCJiuGS4RqBsZ8hDwE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,260,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="104026619" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([78.148.203.169]) by out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 20 Nov 2009 18:27:36 +0000 Message-ID: <005f01ca6a0f$21bf2870$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:27:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: qrv Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005C_01CA6A0F.21706C30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_005C_01CA6A0F.21706C30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Now cq on cw 137 khz and QAP 137.777 for dx qso mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_005C_01CA6A0F.21706C30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_005C_01CA6A0F.21706C30-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de11.mx.aol.com (rly-de11.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.147]) by air-de08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE083-5144b0a89cb3de; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:10:50 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE115-5144b0a89cb3de; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:10:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCYfq-0000jb-L3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:09:46 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCYfq-0000jS-3Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:09:46 +0000 Received: from smtp831.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.13.166]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCYfo-00025V-RU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:09:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 41424 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2009 13:09:39 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=GL+2Sd4C+2uJkif6M1Bp1P84Icqwp556yzETeZ0Zuqav2wwrSdDn/G32KnQ0WV1O0xCixWRkRTiE/RQnlWaY8kaxmYkLq0SDnXbZDTMjj5Z/fjaLxgdtYBlAAZfbysjkOyJRzJ4RD1Dqa3GnjPc87lPhxVnhRKBcm3JRQbGJ5T4= ; Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.180.119.35 with login) by smtp831.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Nov 2009 13:09:39 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: qKIhhNCswBB2TTHr2BORWcGGR2mpopxhCcunGIxpCKQYiG07Q7UOhNo- X-YMail-OSG: cy.ivQcVM1mNX_V9XdUI95bmXiAhZzY0y69MUEspPN3TNEn4ySbwm9vbSRiyNh5.pbtfDEH2bmptvdW3wcpM8TrrQp1sN8IUoGQ_VsJVDqkyBTYxrxz0O8eTkt6wx1KxYLVGu.FiIFcH2jvF8q7470CsOTfDhhJ.qmNEttuR9ZIvJiY0_t0q0q927Z8neMPuVPxGRwvtukR9hzsxhqY4Z4MB.wfIeH0VCB3pdIFW0Oi0hrlztmA6aykyr_7w_FVqNKiNRLbS6AQXFuLw9QVpfeemjTghxNNXuCf8 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <7C21B1DD169746B0967307E2AB9E7FDD@JimPC> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <4B09D502.8030200@toya.net.pl>,<006101ca6bd9$9ab3cb70$0900a8c0@lark> In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:09:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: N-turn TX Loop Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-2"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Piotr, LF Group, Considering only the conductor losses for the moment, in principle increasing the number of turns of the loop by a factor N increases the radiation resistance by approximately N^2, while the loss resistance of the conductors increases by approximately N times, giving an improvement in efficiency of a factor N. However, if you instead connected the same N turns in parallel, you would have a single-turn loop with N parallel conductors, with a loss resistance 1/N times that of a single conductor loop, but with the same radiation resistance. This would also give rise to the same N times efficiency improvement. So from the conductor loss point of view, increasing the number of conductors in the loop should improve efficiency by much the same amount, it would not matter much whether the turns are connected in series or parallel. However, the multi-turn loop inductance is also approximately proportional to N^2, if the turns are fairly close together. The current in the multi-turn loop will be reduced by a factor of N to achieve the same radiated power. Most of the loop impedance is due to its inductance, so the overall voltage across the loop will increase by a factor of N for the same radiated power.This means a greater electric field strength around the antenna, and so increased environmental losses due to the multiple turns - dielectric loss increases as the square of the applied electric field. So assuming a constant value of environmental loss (1.5ohm in your calculation) is not realistic, if a significant proportion of this resistance is due to dielectric losses, which is probably the case for most practical antennas. Probably the main virtue of the transmitting loop is the reduced environmental loss due to it being a relatively low-impedance, low-voltage device. so to maintain this advantage, it would seem to be a better idea to have multiple parallel turns rather than series turns. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU > > This sunday evening i decided to do some simple math and it turns out > > that such a N-turn TX loop should work ( at least on the paper) > > The radiation resistance is proportional to the square of so called > > "effective > > height" and this last term can be easily derived for a loop i.e. it is > > equal to > > 2*pi*A*N/lambda where A denotes area closed by a loop a N is the number > > of turns > > so the radiation resistance for a single turn loop reads as > > 320*pi^4*A^2/lambda^4 > > For the N-turns the radiation resistance obtained for a single turn is > > multiplied > > by N^2. Ok, the R (ac) is increased as we increase N but this is linear > > with respect to N > > and therefore we should have gain in the radiated power. > > (there is an implicit assumption made: the loop is "small" i.e. the > > current is constant) > > > > i did some calculations: assumed TX power ( and later, perfect match to > > the loop) 200 Watt > > environmental loss: 1.5 Ohm, diameter of the wire d = 3 mm, rectangular > > shape of the loop > > i.e 10 meters by 20 meters ( less optimal than square or circle ) > > so A = 200 sq.m For N =1 (classical tx loop) we get R(AC) = 0.62 Ohm > > ( Rac formula taken from ARRL Antenna Handbook, f = 137.7kHz) > > radiation resistance RRAD = 55.5 microOhm, total R loss = 2.12 Ohm, > > efficiency is 0.0026% and radiated pwr 5.2 miliWatts, I = 9.7 Amp. > > Next, I took N =3 so the wire length is changed from 60 meters to 180, > > everything else was kept the same and now one gets: R(ac)= 1.85 Ohm so > > R loss = 3.35 Ohm > > RRAD = 499.5 microOhm, efficiency increased to 0.015% and radiated pwr > > abt 30 miliWatt, I=7.7 Amp > > I am sorry bothering you but i simply would like to learn > > where is the 'catch' here - if there is one ... > > 73 de Piotr, sq7mpj > > qth: Lodz /jo91rs/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me05.mx.aol.com (rly-me05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.39]) by air-me09.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINME091-9ba4b12ee0c17a; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:56:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME056-9ba4b12ee0c17a; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:56:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NErjl-0004OJ-PL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:55:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NErjl-0004OA-EZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:55:21 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NErjk-0004u4-MV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:55:21 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE2B94C815B for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:55:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F9FA4C8035 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:55:15 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B12EDC3.8030005@online.fr> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:55:15 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001801ca7139$d8e15100$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> In-Reply-To: <001801ca7139$d8e15100$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: f8boj info's Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Claude , Monstrous signal !=20 I hope that our friends of the other side of pond , will copy you ! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj Claude Berthebaud a =E9crit : > Good evening LF > beaconing QRSS60 137776.20hz=20 > Claude F8boj JN16WA > =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de08.mx.aol.com (rly-de08.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.144]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE053-4f74afa11371e9; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:20:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE086-4f74afa11371e9; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:19:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N81r1-00015k-4z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:18:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N81r0-00015b-Fd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:18:34 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N81qF-0001p5-3K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:17:48 +0000 Received: from edmwaa03.telusplanet.net ([75.157.140.241]) by priv-edmwes25.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091111011829.YXXG7884.priv-edmwes25.telusplanet.net@edmwaa03.telusplanet.net> for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:18:29 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.67] (d75-157-140-241.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.140.241]) by edmwaa03.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 0525107623C0DDC3 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:18:28 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4AFA10E4.6080703@telus.net> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:18:28 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001101ca621e$dcdc3380$96949a80$@princeton.edu> In-Reply-To: <001101ca621e$dcdc3380$96949a80$@princeton.edu> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AMATEUR_PORN=1.473 Subject: Re: LF: 500 kHz WSPR de VE1JF or who the heck is this guy? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.7 required=5.0 tests=AMATEUR_PORN,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Jim As a member of RAC, I wonder where you get the authorization for making=20 a statement such as this: 'Regulatory Affairs wing of RAC, who are Industry Canada=92s gatekeepers'?= ?? RAC has no regulatory power nor formal stating with IC. They wish they=20 did, but they do not and as a member my vote is they should never have. I would also like to make it clear that the Canadian Developmental=20 Service experiments are strictly that 'Developmental Service' and have=20 no legal ability to communicate with those in the amateur service. It=20 concerns me to see reports of undisciplined experimental operators=20 attempting or completely QSOs with stations in the amateur service in=20 EU. This was the main reason I opted out of the 600m experiment in the=20 first place. Another reason I withdrew my application for experimentation on 600m was= =20 this very attitude from RAC and its complete lack of willingness to=20 advocate for real amateur radio experiments. Instead they presented us=20 with watered down commercial developmental licenses advocated by those=20 with zero prior interest in LF and zero operating experience on LF. With= =20 no ability to explore REAL communication with other amateurs world wide=20 and a complete lack of respect for and knowledge about the existing LF=20 experimenters group that exists in Canada I withdrew in disgust of the=20 entire situation as the egos in Ottawa and elsewhere have taken over... If the chair or the band planning committee would have had any real=20 interest in LF then were where they years ago when REAL amateur LF=20 experiments where being conducted when we pleaded for others to get=20 involved? Had you had a real interest you would have your answers already as the=20 systems have been developed and will simply sit idle at this station=20 until there is REAL amateur radio on 600m. I certainly hope you don't entertain to start planning the future 2200m=20 band without consulting with the long term users here in Canada. 73 Scott VE7TIL CN89dk Jim and Hannelore Fisher wrote: > > Congratulations on #1000, G3XIZ! > > I chair the Radio Amateurs of Canada (RAC) LF/MF/HF Band Planning=20 > Committee, and several of us are interested in participating in the=20 > recently-authorized experiments on 500 kHz. We are receiving active=20 > support on this effort from the Regulatory Affairs wing of RAC, who=20 > are Industry Canada=92s gatekeepers. This period is preliminary to the= =20 > coming world meeting where this will be discussed. We hope to get=20 > several stations transmitting 25% of the time and a lot more across=20 > Canada receiving, so it should add to WSPR=92s activity and spotting at= =20 > this frequency. > > I=92m not sure what you were saying about hand-sent CW vs. WSPR; I also= =20 > love CW but am amazed what WSPR can offer. Other authorized Canadian=20 > participants in this program are already using CW, and most of my=20 > 100,000+ QSOs over 53+ years have been CW, but we are expecting our=20 > little group to propose two frequencies (we must be specific) and use=20 > 503.9 WSPR beacon mode, break in using the WSJT WSPR mode, and QSY to=20 > our =93working frequency=94, where we can use any mode within the 1 kHz= =20 > permissible bandwidth. Contenders for working frequency QSOs might=20 > vary from some of the JT modes to OLIVIA to CW depending on what=20 > signal levels we are experiencing with feasible antennas and our power= =20 > limitations. The purpose of all this will be able to understand=20 > whether 600M can offer utility for ham radio-scale stations for=20 > emergency, and how its usability varies with conditions including aurora= . > > Last night, using my 160M 1/2w sloper aimed at the Pacific Rim, I=20 > spotted SM6BHZ over 40 times on 502.4+. > > We are looking for info on successful approaches to generating WSPR=20 > and other modes on 500 kHz. I=92m presently thinking of a transverter=20 > with my transceiver=92s transverter output, but I=92m open and others in= =20 > our group may want to try other approaches. > > 73, > > Jim, VE1JF > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG041-9ef4b0894432cd; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:31:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG011-9ef4b0894432cd; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:30:45 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NC1Gt-0005rD-1B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:29:47 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NC1Gs-0005r4-Bt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:29:46 +0000 Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com ([205.188.105.143]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NC1Gq-0004MD-6s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:29:46 +0000 Received: from imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (imo-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.136]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nAM1TU59017569 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:29:30 -0500 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id l.d02.67c52be9 (65097) for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:29:28 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:29:28 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: F4DTL@aol.com X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: SP2KDS 137kHz Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_d02.67c52be9.3839edf8_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --part1_d02.67c52be9.3839edf8_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1258853367" -------------------------------1258853367 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Hello Marcin your capture. =20 F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC7400 Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010 Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 22/11/2009 02:09:24 Paris, Madrid, bxi@go2.pl a= =20 =E9crit : Hello Nicolas, Andrey, Dave, Ed, LF TNX raport Nicolas, Andrey. Very thank QSO Ed RU6LA and Dave G3YXM. Nov calling CQ 137,700kHz QRSS 10. 73! MArcin SQ2BXI -------------------------------1258853367 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= FONT id=3Drole_document color=3D#000000 size=3D2 face=3DArial>
Hello Marcin your capture.
 
F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP

RX : Icom IC7400
Ant: Wellbrook LFL=20 1010

Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 22/11/2009 02:09:24 Paris, Madrid, bxi@go2.p= l a=20 =E9crit :
H= ello=20 Nicolas, Andrey, Dave, Ed, LF
TNX raport Nicolas, Andrey.
Very tha= nk QSO=20 Ed RU6LA and Dave G3YXM.

Nov calling CQ 137,700kHz QRSS 10.
73!=20 MArcin SQ2BXI
 
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boundary="_23fbe479-9f8e-4943-a2a5-d516434ee319_" Subject: RE: LF: T/A [137 kHz] good conditions ( re also ! ) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --_23fbe479-9f8e-4943-a2a5-d516434ee319_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_51f11553-00df-4cbf-8177-f7eace0dca85_" --_51f11553-00df-4cbf-8177-f7eace0dca85_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Jean-Pierre, LF! You are right, the conditions were SUPER! I also saw the stations, you wrote about them. I have never seen all those= stations on the one snapshot before. Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS ********************* > Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:24:37 +0100 > From: jpm.f1afj@online.fr > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: T/A [137 kHz] good conditions ( re also ! ) >=20 > Hello LF, >=20 > Good conditions last night on 137 Khz ! >=20 > "XKO" (WD2XKO) qrss60 > "XGJ" (WD2XGJ) qrss60 > "XES" (WD2XES) dfcw60 > It is great pleasure of finding the actors of my beginnings LF! > Miss Joe (NA) and Jay (XES) so that the table is complete! > Thank you Sirs!!!!. >=20 > 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj >=20 > NB : For information, the captures are always filed here : > http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Nov=E1 Windows 7: Kter=FD po=E8=EDta=E8 je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD? Dal=B9= =ED informace. http://windows.microsoft.com/shop=3D --_51f11553-00df-4cbf-8177-f7eace0dca85_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Jean-Pierre, LF!
You are right, the conditions were SUPER!
I= also saw the stations, you wrote about them. I have never seen all those= stations on the one snapshot before.

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:24:37 +010= 0
> From: jpm.f1afj@online.fr
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o= rg
> Subject: LF: T/A [137 kHz] good conditions ( re also ! )
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> Hello LF,
>
> Good conditions last night on= 137 Khz !
>
> "XKO" (WD2XKO) qrss60
> "XGJ" (WD2XG= J) qrss60
> "XES" (WD2XES) dfcw60
> It is great pleasure= of finding the actors of my beginnings LF!
> Miss Joe (NA) and Ja= y (XES) so that the table is complete!
> Thank you Sirs!!!!.
&g= t;
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
> NB : For informa= tion, the captures are always filed here :
> http://jpmere.on= line.fr/LF/
>
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with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N5jyI-0006r7-6H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:48:40 +0000 Received: by mail.ebirds.it (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 411D057CE3; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:48:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ebirds.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74A0557CD9 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:48:34 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ebirds.it Received: from mail.ebirds.it ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mamba02.ebirds.it [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Uudlrzkfqkxc for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:48:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from imac2 (host185-41-static.24-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it [87.24.41.185]) by mail.ebirds.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE6F57CB8; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:48:33 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:48:32 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Marco IK1ODO -2 In-Reply-To: <4AF1BA0A.8020207@usa.net> References: <57a24ca70911040825i8280573r7c52559a04b70d6c@mail.gmail.com> <4AF1BA0A.8020207@usa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091104174833.EDE6F57CB8@mail.ebirds.it> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: "Poisson, Shannon, and the Radio Amateur" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Others would enjoy too :-) - very curious, indeed. 73 - Marco IK1ODO At 18:42 04-11-09, Alberto di Bene wrote: >Warren Ziegler wrote: > >>Andy, >> I can get a copy from the M.I.T. library but it may be a few days >>before I get over there... > >Would it be asking too much for a publicly downloadable copy ? > >TNX. > >73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de11.mx.aol.com (rly-de11.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.147]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE053-5144b0654e6fc; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:36:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE115-5144b0654e6fc; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:35:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBOvW-0004d5-7Q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:33:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBOvV-0004cw-8u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:33:09 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBOvT-0005cz-T4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:33:09 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD5D551C002 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:32:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from PC_van_Rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-106.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.106]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0711F3863 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:32:58 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:33:03 +0100 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <00b301ca6915$df7b7440$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> References: <000501ca67ba$e4817db0$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <002e01ca682b$c42ac460$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <00b301ca6915$df7b7440$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091120083258.C0711F3863@smtps02.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 QRSS10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jay, good copy with the usual QSB. 73, Rik At 13:43 19/11/2009, you wrote: >T/A enthusiasts > >Thanks to Rik, Andrey, Pat, Ralph (and others for trying) from the >Tuesday night QRSS3 session. Very >surprised to see the signal received in Russia! > >Tonight WE2XGR/2 will transmit in QRSS10 mode from ~ 2130 to ~ 2300Z >and QRSS3 from ~2300 to ~ 0030Z >on 506.5 kHz. > >The QRSS10 transmission (letters XGR) will take about 4-1/2 minutes >which may be longer than the >T/A QSB cycle to western EU. It will be interesting to see if QRSS10 >might be too slow for T/A work. >As usual, any and all reports are appreciated. > >Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Andrey rn3agc" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 3:33 AM >Subject: LF: Re: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 > > > > Hello Jay, Rik, LF, > > Captures at 00.32 and 01.42. > > Rik, here frequency 506501. > > > > 73 > > Andrey / KO85sv > > > > > >> T/A enthusiasts > >> > >> WE2XGR/2 will beacon in QRSS3 mode tonight on 506.5 kHz from ~ 2130 to ~ > >> 0030 Z. Reports appreciated. > >> > >> Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd10.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDD102-b9c4b12b8972c7; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:08:43 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD096-b9c4b12b8972c7; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:08:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEoBT-0002dc-AO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:07:43 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEoBS-0002dR-Rc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:07:42 +0000 Received: from col0-omc1-s10.col0.hotmail.com ([65.55.34.20]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEoBQ-0004CT-3m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:07:42 +0000 Received: from COL122-W26 ([65.55.34.9]) by col0-omc1-s10.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:07:33 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:07:33 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4B124CC8.6060106@online.fr> References: <002201ca70da$b4515150$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf>,<4B124CC8.6060106@online.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Nov 2009 18:07:33.0439 (UTC) FILETIME=[D2E0DCF0:01CA711E] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_12753036-82c0-4dcc-9ebb-0fad38c81966_" Subject: RE: LF: LF T/A [137kHz] Grabber failed ! X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_12753036-82c0-4dcc-9ebb-0fad38c81966_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Jean-Pierre, LF! Yes, I thought, something was wrong, becouse I noticed, that your grabber was off. I made a guess, your PC had been broken. I am glad, that your grabber is ready again. Well done! 73! Lubos, OK2BVG ******************************** > Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:28:24 +0100 > From: jpm.f1afj@online.fr > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: LF T/A [137kHz] Grabber failed ! > > Hello LF , > > This night , the grabber "planted", cause is due to storm ! > The K9AY broken ! at hour that it is repaired , ready for > the next night ! > > 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj > _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: Který poèítaè je pro vás ten pravý? Dal¹í informace. http://windows.microsoft.com/shop --_12753036-82c0-4dcc-9ebb-0fad38c81966_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Jean-Pierre, LF!
Yes, I thought, something was wrong, becouse I noticed, that your grabber was off. I made a guess, your PC had been broken.
I am glad, that your grabber is ready again. Well done!

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG

********************************

> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:28:24 +0100
> From: jpm.f1afj@online.fr
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: LF T/A [137kHz] Grabber failed !
>
> Hello LF ,
>
> This night , the grabber "planted", cause is due to storm !
> The K9AY broken ! at hour that it is repaired , ready for
> the next night !
>
> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
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Dal¹í informace. --_12753036-82c0-4dcc-9ebb-0fad38c81966_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (rly-dc01.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.30]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC073-aff4b0aab8c242; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:34:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC013-aff4b0aab8c242; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:34:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCavC-0001Ql-6q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:33:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCavB-0001Qc-Qv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:33:45 +0000 Received: from mail-gx0-f210.google.com ([209.85.217.210]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCavA-0003Zp-Nu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:33:45 +0000 Received: by gxk2 with SMTP id 2so2979630gxk.4 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 07:33:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rctZHraJweaQEVZ68QQ7cO1Geim8GhKO0zkwh0wdnxk=; b=dTn6hg+aQclHyN4sr2Buyc5UM8bNbmHISjCUvgxvCMHcJfoWqs0z65TPaHo4tNbCvt fGImVwwEMLvZemizcu4v5Gl0+/zw98goBhO43pa7rKGVSeaXdhFmCzV66eFFlAgerk7D EznwDDwmPfdZ/uc8IEjSN36noUQgCmqWGDLH8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=j7SaRUAYHK6YvxZCPElvIwAQiwO0YoR0x4h4qA8c5s8Zv+lugJpFHh1eQt1fIdPsp6 DMxsfI2k41u/QwoV82PeZmx1IaWtC/X6PyO8HHwISChoBxMyqlfJA69fNlXp3Ghg5kRc r5y/X3A8OqNK7l8tlNEjJzEjzHs48yXP9IUVk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.10.42 with SMTP id 42mr8826458ybj.115.1258990416388; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 07:33:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9E569DBC0A864E55B79D40E3B0F0CB60@ns94d01ae4d850> References: <9E569DBC0A864E55B79D40E3B0F0CB60@ns94d01ae4d850> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:33:36 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70911230733q34750093j8b4ba6b30c720433@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XGJ 23-11.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m260.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Henny, Excellent capture, good LF conditions! Thank you! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2009/11/23 henny van elst : > Hi Warren, > capture XGJ > Henny cpm > 73s > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden > verzonden: > XGJ 23-11.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen > het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. > Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe > bijlagen worden afgehandeld. -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (rly-mf01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.171]) by air-mf07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF073-93f4b004dd1108; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:52:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF015-93f4b004dd1108; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:52:02 -0500 Received: from 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------=_NextPart_000_011D_01CA6495.875E7660-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (rly-mg07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.113]) by air-mg06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG061-a214b07f6ab23a; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:18:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG073-a214b07f6ab23a; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:18:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBqm4-0005mK-Bf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:17:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBqm3-0005mB-O3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:17:15 +0000 Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBqm2-00011Q-0S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:17:15 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-2.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.2]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091121141208.IVUW27507.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-2.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:12:08 +0000 Received: from [81.109.247.175] (helo=desktop) by know-smtpout-2.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBqh5-0003yP-Mz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:12:08 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: References: <4B07ABA4.4060102@online.fr> <004601ca6ab3$a160b400$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:12:03 -0000 Message-ID: <004501ca6ab4$9a81dd20$0517aac0@desktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <004601ca6ab3$a160b400$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: Acpqs8knZsmKgX6HSoukgdkBILRk7AAAKiww X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=wV9FcBFsAAAA:8 a=MX4yy2ZXkm7vzrftXhcA:9 a=J73SypRWOW9Xi8uUlzoA:7 a=_ddOQhjW1WwdmTg52C3MMbElQToA:4 a=wJEB6GBnoWQA:10 a=KGHlO6L4b5AA:10 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=W_ZxIn_LcXcA:10 a=l3F7mrdXTu-K6gIN:21 a=1e5WzPRC5isxYwyu:21 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 How do you know they are unattended? Jim -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton Sent: 21 November 2009 14:05 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO Two unattended machines had a QSO!! Is that what you mean. g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" To: Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 1:52 PM Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO CanI suggest you read thoroughly the documentation on how the mode works before making claims about the database.and validity. The database can only be updated by stations decoding and reportoing, and if each QSO partner has a reciprocal report in the database for near-adjacent time intervals , then they MUST have been in contact with eachother and cannot be classed as anything bu a valid QSO. Its impossible to have achieved this in any other way. Please read all the documentation first. Andy www.g4jnt.com This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health and safety police 2009/11/21 Wolf Ostwald : > Hello group ! > > > > I am not an expert with WSPR at all. But I followed the discussion regarding > false detection of calls thru the database. > > To my understanding the WSPR operator has NO way to really find out whether > the computer came to the right conclusion about the calls received, or > whether it just judged by means of plausibility. We humans have no sense for > phaseshift, that means we have to believe the machine. > > I think that the database in the background is like a walking stick for the > blind. > > Of course it's a new and exciting technology, but I doubt that it is on one > and the same level with a regular exchange and therefore should not be > considered equally verifying a valid contact. > > My two pence worth de wolf df2py > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v125.8) with ESMTP id MAILINMG031-a1e4b068e58286; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:41:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG068-a1e4b068e58286; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:40:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBSmZ-0005zx-5U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:40:11 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBSmY-0005zn-Fn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:40:10 +0000 Received: from qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.96]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBSmX-0000ni-06 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:40:10 +0000 Received: from OMTA23.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.74]) by QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 7PSk1d0041c6gX859Qg2U4; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:40:02 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([76.23.233.102]) by OMTA23.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 7Qny1d0032DDHkk3jQnyLM; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:47:58 +0000 Message-ID: <008b01ca69de$93caad30$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <492835.52192.qm@web28106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:40:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: 'Sporadic incidents' Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0087_01CA69B4.AADCB060" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0087_01CA69B4.AADCB060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pete The WE2XGR license specifically permits communications with other stations...including amateurs stations. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ----- Original Message ----- From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 6:33 AM Subject: Re: LF: 'Sporadic incidents' Hi Scott So we still treat all these beacon only licenced stations out of North America as Pirates if they try a two-way QSO, as far as UK experimental licence holders are concerned....... eh? Probably our authority is ambivalent so long as we don't operate out of band as I think some has already said on this reflector. Thanks for the info and the Canadian insight. 73 es gl petefmt --- On Fri, 20/11/09, Scott Tilley wrote: From: Scott Tilley Subject: LF: 'Sporadic incidents' To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Friday, 20 November, 2009, 1:15 Hi All Industry Canada has ruled... See the 600m Buttulator for the latest emission... Good day eh? Scott VE7TIL CN89dk http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/ ------=_NextPart_000_0087_01CA69B4.AADCB060 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Pete
 
The WE2XGR license specifically permi= ts=20 communications with other stations...including amateurs=20 stations.
 
Jay W1VD  WD2XNS =20 WE2XGR/2 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 M0FMT=
Sent: Friday, November 20, 20= 09 6:33=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: 'Sporadic=20 incidents'

Hi Scott
 
So we still treat all these beacon only licenced sta= tions out=20 of North America as Pirates if they try a two-way QSO, as= far as UK=20 experimental licence holders are concerned....... eh?
 
Probably our authority is ambivalent so long as we don't= operate=20 out of band as I think some has already said on this reflector= .
 
Thanks for the info and the Canadian insight.
 
73 es gl petefmt
 
 
 

--- On Fri, 20/11/09, Scott Tilley=20 <sthed475@telus.net> wrote:

From:=20 Scott Tilley <sthed475@telus.net>
Subject: LF: 'Spo= radic=20 incidents'
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Frid= ay, 20=20 November, 2009, 1:15

Hi All

Industry Canada has=20 ruled...

See the 600m Buttulator for the latest=20 emission...

Good day eh?
Scott
VE7TIL CN89dkhttp://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/



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Try it now. =3D --_8180505e-e10c-4f57-9486-8a1cf848fc53_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (rly-dc01.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.30]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC034-afe4b02bfe23a; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:45:17 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC012-afe4b02bfe23a; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:23:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAPsj-0003Ro-Km for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:22:13 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAPsj-0003Rf-3c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:22:13 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAPsh-0000w8-Me for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:22:13 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.200] (rx2-v.twatt.home [192.168.1.200]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD1003B512 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:22:07 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4B02BF9E.5020701@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:22:06 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <9afca2640911170243q3b4e2c95kb2668b937e727070@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9afca2640911170243q3b4e2c95kb2668b937e727070@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 136kHz WSPR tests Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Roger Lapthorn wrote: > Dear all, > > Very encouraged by my results at 500kHz, I'd like to try some "low ERP" WSPR > tests on 136kHz using the same small antenna and transverter (slightly > modified). Let me know and I'll be watching! Cheers, John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db06.mx.aol.com (rly-db06.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.81]) by air-db07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB073-acf4b03b7d3185; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:01:26 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB065-acf4b03b7d3185; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:01:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAgN9-0000WD-V3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:58:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAgN9-0000W4-GC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:58:43 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAgN3-0005pF-ON for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:58:43 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9161651C00B for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:58:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from PC_van_Rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-106.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.106]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7282031E703 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:58:15 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:58:17 +0100 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: References: <017801ca66fb$0bf91c60$0517aac0@jimdesk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091118085815.7282031E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Jim, LF group, I have noticed "double receptions" of my WSPR signal from a number of stations. When it occurred the ghost signal was always 100Hz higher and was 33-36dB weaker. As the frequency shift and signal strength difference was the same at the different RX stations I conclude that the cause was with me. I think that it is just some AM modulation in the PA caused by the 100Hz ripple of the PSU. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T At 02:13 18/11/2009, you wrote: >Dear Jim LF Group, > >Looking at the sidebands on the G7NKS WSPR signals, mains hum or other noise >by itself is not a sufficient explanation of what is seen. Simply adding >50Hz, 150Hz, etc. noise into the PC audio channel, then feeding the result >into an SSB TX would give unwanted CW at frequencies offset from the SSB >carrier frequency by +/-50Hz, 150Hz and so on, i.e. with the carrier "dial >frequency" at 502.4kHz, unmodulated carriers would appear at 502.45kHz, >502.55kHz and so on, in addition to the WSPR signal at around 503.9kHz. >However, these would probably largely be removed by the SSB filter in the >rig. Instead, we see unwanted sidebands offset from the wanted WSPR signal >frequency by +/- 50Hz, 150Hz, with identical modulation to the wanted >signal. This requires some sort of non-linear process to cause the >intermodulation between the presumed mains noise and the WSPR signal >somewhere in the TX chain. > >One possibility is that intermodulation occurs in the PA. Jim's description >suggests that he is persuading the HF PA in the IC735 to produce output at >500k. At this frequency, the PA linearity may well be poor due to the >impedance matching, coupling, decoupling and feedback components in the PA >being wrong for the frequency, and high flux densities occuring in ferrite >components due to the low operating frequency. But this wouldn't explain why >Jim also gets multiple received signals from a strong station with a clean >signal, which implies some identical noise source and distortion in the >receive path. It would also mean the mains noise getting through the >filtering in the rig somehow. > >A possibility that would explain the unwanted sidebands appearing on both TX >and RX signals is if one of the oscillators in the system has mains noise >sidebands. The sound card clock seems unlikely, since this is just a simple >crystal oscillator. I see the IC735 has some sort of multi-loop PLL >synthesiser, which would certainly be prone to this type of spurious signal, >since any kind of mains noise getting in would modulate the VCO frequencies, >and would probably be the same on transmit and receive. This could be >checked by receiving a clean carrier somewhere around 500kHz, and examining >the audio output using Spec Lab or Argo or similar to see if 50Hz and 150Hz >sidebands are present on the received audio tone. > >Cheers, Jim Moritz >73 de M0BMU > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "James Cowburn" >To: >Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:26 PM >Subject: LF: rule #2 - assumption is the brother of all foul ups > > > > LF > > > > > > > > Sidebands are back! I think its caused by my TX getting hot and bothered > > by > > struggling at 500. From cold it txs 50 watts but this soon drops back to > > around 35, and the sidebands appear. My sigs are better so having the > > txfr > > outside the shack and at the antenna is a vast improvement, but I now need > > to work on the cooling. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (rly-dc03.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.32]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC052-b104b0a1c67370; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:24:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC034-b104b0a1c67370; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:23:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCRNh-0007of-Rx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:22:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCRNh-0007oW-E0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:22:33 +0000 Received: from smtp05.online.nl ([194.134.41.35]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCRNg-0000Q6-1f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:22:33 +0000 Received: from smtp05.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp05.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6EDC5204D for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 06:22:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (s5593e077.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.147.224.119]) by smtp05.online.nl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 06:22:30 +0100 (CET) From: To: Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 06:22:30 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp05.online.nl) X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: RE: MRC Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0023_01CA6C05.55FB0170" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_40_50, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01CA6C05.55FB0170 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0024_01CA6C05.55FD7270" ------=_NextPart_001_0024_01CA6C05.55FD7270 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable deep QSB on MRC,best signal at 4:30z 73 Victor -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Lubos OK2BVG Verzonden: maandag 23 november 2009 2:56 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: LF: MRC Hello Joe, Rik, LF! MRC signal is as strong as EU QRSS station now. It is unbelievable! Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS **** BTW *** "The strong vertical lines are "made in Sweden" ;-)"Rik, where are thi= s vertical lines in your grabber from? I saw somethink similar here as= well. Those lines was very strong, periodic and they finished around the mid= night. ----------------------------------------------------------------------= ------ -- Windows 7: Zjedodu=B9te si ka=BEdodenn=ED =FAkoly. Kter=FD po=E8=EDt= a=E8 je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD? ------=_NextPart_001_0024_01CA6C05.55FD7270 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
deep QSB on=20 MRC,best signal at 4:30z
 
73
 
Victor
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Lubos=20 OK2BVG
Verzonden: maandag 23 november 2009 2:56
Aan:= =20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: LF: MRC

Hello Joe, Rik, LF!
MRC signal is as strong as EU QRSS station no= w. It is=20 unbelievable!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

**** BTW ***
"The strong vertical lines are "made in Sweden" ;-)"

Rik, wh= ere are this vertical lines in your grabber from? I saw somethink simi= lar here as well.
Those lines was very strong, periodic and they= finished around the midnight.


 

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To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:17:11 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4AF1B717.31461.F2160F@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> In-reply-to: <002b01ca5c10$0ccec4f0$0201a8c0@Clemens04> References: <9afca2640910310528p4f07557aifdc0557a68bfeff8@mail.gmail.com>, <002b01ca5c10$0ccec4f0$0201a8c0@Clemens04> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=7b43F8AYrcwA:10 a=9YlaCzn6_68A:10 a=hZG83p_yAAAA:8 a=YVLYd_bNAAAA:8 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=fnYqA7hvAAAA:8 a=j6Q1dnSHAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=VbBEleJV2F6EnEqZg7IA:9 a=3-efXUrfEF5nk-xEgwoA:7 a=RjnVYsF8elKvRgbjIL_npUX3U1YA:4 a=zXTYkF9FxG4A:10 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=gA6IeH5FQcgA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 a=9MV_0H_94qqYfgOS:21 a=PYIgT00Pnd4IQSuE:21 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500kHz attenuation graphs? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 This recommendation is available for 35 Swiss francs from: http://www.itu.int/rec/R-REC-P.368-7-199203-S/en Mike, G3XDV ========== On 2 Nov 2009 at 23:58, Clemens Paul wrote: > Roger, > > it's the CCIR- RECOMMENDATION 368-7 . > There are no free sources on the internet for these graphs > at least I was not able to find any. > Maybe DK8KW can help you, he has a graph for 150kHz on his HP > http://www.qru.de/burg.html > where you can also find his email address. > > 73 > Clemens > DL4RAJ > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Roger Lapthorn > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 1:28 PM > Subject: LF: 500kHz attenuation graphs? > > > Can someone please point me to any CCIR or similar graphs > (preferably on the internet) showing > the attenuation with distance expected on groundwave and skywave at > 500kHz? > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.40/2471 - Release Date: > 10/31/09 07:53:00 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (rly-ma01.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.44]) by air-ma08.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMA081-8894b0b0bad28f; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:24:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA013-8894b0b0bad28f; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:24:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NChJh-00030E-LS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:23:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NChJh-000302-88 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:23:29 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NChJf-0005py-33 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:23:29 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A0D44C8095 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:23:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7814C8174 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:23:20 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B0B0B58.6030200@online.fr> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:23:20 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <57a24ca70911231159k557ba717lbb0cf31cc7eb6e70@mail.gmail.com> <4B0B0774.7000304@online.fr> <57a24ca70911231420g41527072u8a49b156731352f2@mail.gmail.com> <57a24ca70911231420m3c5c39b5ue19501796f1e6ecc@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <57a24ca70911231420m3c5c39b5ue19501796f1e6ecc@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WD2XGJ Off 11/24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) OE5ODL ! 73 Warren Ziegler a =E9crit : > There is another signal on 137.780 - I don't know who that is? > =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com (rly-md01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.139]) by air-md04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD041-8e14b01a7032e7; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:25:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD011-8e14b01a7032e7; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:24:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA7AY-0007sD-DH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:23:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA7AX-0007s3-Td for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:23:21 +0000 Received: from smtp6.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.191]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA7AW-0002Pt-Sl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:23:21 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3609.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 432DC1C00086 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:23:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3609.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 35F001C00088 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:23:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.57.115]) by mwinf3609.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id A9BE31C00086 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:23:12 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091116192312695.A9BE31C00086@mwinf3609.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <6154343E4A0A4221B3275E7A5774B2CE@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <014601ca66e7$76a9f9d0$0517aac0@jimdesk> <015b01ca66e7$faca7050$0517aac0@jimdesk> In-Reply-To: <015b01ca66e7$faca7050$0517aac0@jimdesk> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:23:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: RE: thats the way to do it! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009D_01CA66F2.36A9D8E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_009D_01CA66F2.36A9D8E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jim, The spots from Jim . M0BMU , don't quite make sense as the distance= is only 38 Km as there is nearly 30 db range .over the last days= ..Gary G4WGT who is 33 Km from me records 1 or 2 db change in the si= gnal level of my wspr signal (apart from last night where I was run= ning down to 50 mW feed to the Ae) ... Is this some form of aircraft= flutter or something ? as I would of thought it was simply groun= d wave ? Any ideas anyone ? G ..=20 From: James Cowburn=20 Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 6:09 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: RE: RE: thats the way to do it! Now getting rpts on reflector too! doh =20 =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@b= lacksheep.org] On Behalf Of James Cowburn Sent: 16 November 2009 18:06 To: 'James Cowburn'; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: thats the way to do it! =20 =20 Dear LF =20 At a stroke, side bands gone, 25watts found, sigs increased! I'd like= to say I planned it that way but sister Serendipity was on my side! =20 I just moved the impedance matching transformer from in the shack to= the base of the coil and re-adjusted the taps on both. IC735 now ha= ppily firing 50watts out as opposed to 25 watts and it seems that the= dreaded side bands are gone. Let's see if it stays that way. =20 =20 =20 With best regards =20 =20 Jim G7NKS =20 =20 Dr. James Cowburn =20 ------=_NextPart_000_009D_01CA66F2.36A9D8E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jim,
 
The spots from Jim .  M0BMU , do= n't =20 quite make sense as the  distance is  only  38 Km = as there=20 is nearly  30 db range .over the  last days ..Gary G4WGT who= is 33 Km=20 from me records 1 or 2  db change in the signal level of my = =20 wspr  signal  (apart from last night where I was running&nbs= p; down=20 to  50 mW feed to the Ae) ... = Is this some=20 form of aircraft flutter  or something ? as I would  of = ; thought=20 it was  simply  ground  wave ?
 
Any  ideas  anyone ?=
 
G ..

Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 6:09 PM
Subject: LF: RE: RE: thats the way to do it!

Now = getting rpts=20 on reflector too! doh

&nbs= p;

 

From:<= /FONT> owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o= rg] On Behalf= Of James Cowburn
Sent: 16 November 2009 18:06
To: 'James Cowburn'; rsgb_lf_group@b= lacksheep.org
Subject: LF: RE: thats the way to do=20 it!

 

 

Dear LF

 

At a stroke, side bands gone,=20 25watts found, sigs increased!  I=92d like to say I planned it th= at way but=20 sister Serendipity was on my side!

 

I just moved the impedance matching= =20 transformer from in the shack to the base of the coil and re-adjusted= the taps=20 on both.   IC735 now happily firing 50watts out as opposed= to 25 watts=20 and it seems that the dreaded side bands are gone.  Let=92s see= if it stays=20 that way.

 

 

 

With best=20 regards

 

 

= Jim=20 G7NKS

 

 

Dr. James=20 Cowburn

 



------=_NextPart_000_009D_01CA66F2.36A9D8E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg11.mx.aol.com (rly-dg11.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.95]) by air-dg06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG064-6004afdcaa1a4; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:07:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG111-6004afdcaa1a4; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:07:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N93LC-00057g-Av for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:05:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N93LB-00057X-Qu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:05:57 +0000 Received: from smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com ([195.200.78.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N93L6-0000vg-PT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:05:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 22555 invoked by uid 507); 13 Nov 2009 22:05:29 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO JR) (john.rabson@numeo.fr@217.67.155.178) by smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com with SMTP; 13 Nov 2009 22:05:29 +0100 Message-ID: <200911132205430250.0B2CC740@smtp2.numeo.fr> In-Reply-To: <4AFDC7CD.5000409@sighthound.demon.co.uk> References: <00df01ca6488$e9244a80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <5MsXcPDG6Z$KFw8w@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk> <4AFDC7CD.5000409@sighthound.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:05:43 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: PIRATES Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 On 13/11/2009 at 20:55 John P-G wrote: >...granted these permissions on an individual=20 >basis. 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John F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me07.mx.aol.com (rly-me07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.41]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME052-9ca4aede8732d3; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 14:58:46 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME076-9ca4aede8732d3; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 14:58:44 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N4gYR-0001gH-08 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:57:35 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N4gYQ-0001g8-4g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:57:34 +0000 Received: from mcgi41.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.188]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N4gYN-0000lL-HP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:57:34 +0000 Received: from mcgi41.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi41.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5BD111423 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 2009 22:57:25 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [81.195.14.9] by mcgi41.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:57:20 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: rsgb Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:57:20 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <672096955.1257105440.145761808.48695@mcgi41.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Grabber ON 500 Kc Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi LF! http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html started on 500-502 kHz. Looking to Finbar 501.055, 501.4, 500.003 -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg12.mx.aol.com (rly-dg12.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.96]) by air-dg08.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDG084-60a4b13af687c; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 06:41:48 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG121-60a4b13af687c; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 06:41:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NF4cF-0006JV-F5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:40:27 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NF4cE-0006JM-MA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:40:26 +0000 Received: from n14.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.41]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NF4cE-00011B-1i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:40:26 +0000 Received: from [209.191.108.97] by n14.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Nov 2009 11:40:18 -0000 Received: from [68.142.201.246] by t4.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Nov 2009 11:40:18 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp407.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Nov 2009 11:40:18 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 799814.79184.bm@omp407.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 4921 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2009 11:40:18 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=KPN4EjpVVLV8kwuEhCJh0wDj3DnjXoDl4mTCTxzWcf7ETHqIIhhuxuUXgDfy613yanTJEirl0wLAp65DbHu6c41BWmMuSleB7RGdWz0nRiTmHBHC0MitavryE0YC7i5oEsXn8zaBmHjN1QH9D4fDnXVRIGpRexD7ZfeESRI7mo8= ; Received: from host86-138-92-60.range86-138.btcentralplus.com (ken.h.wright@86.138.92.60 with login) by smtp129.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Nov 2009 03:40:17 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: 9Y6mUHuswBAgnrOsukIiNdFDf95uy_Dz34nY1hlg2liKgYD952sjbg-- X-YMail-OSG: rjUkMMMVM1nqOJpwDeRh1xKSSjTEA.ggNSsm9zxEdcTyKlaCFj_7Jboeb8O5lsiMGLRKwD6CqX_rEXYV.0_89dFWsW4nGOf_Swu.mXBWLcjZGHs3sBCfjm2RoeGfEBuEM8BndYIWCoTitJcay9yw7eJFNUo1zwgtcn94X6Kb9U2DhhShcoAotvkbv9vRqQEH1Ogr_wn5xaU_Vz61ANvorbSeG5Mp1TXkKUq7vps1exvexdRXHYw3H6P4Ykx77ll_TaNJPMIdp4WQpl0MY7OGGXeLN5smHCeRGlQfqi.gV_Ra3zGfUiAXPbKth9dxmhvmjdqrrZ4UlHLDC.LMhh2fRfYZ4qFht6w- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <7DBC3294C2014AE28488EF91C4B16494@lindavideo> From: "Ken" To: References: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AA82@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:40:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: Re: AW: Re: AW: 4kv diode Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0058_01CA71B1.E2D8F5A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_70_80, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01CA71B1.E2D8F5A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1258" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Stefan. Thankyou. Ken ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 9:52 AM Subject: LF: AW: Re: AW: 4kv diode=20 Hi Ken,=20 We have ordered these diodes before some years at:=20 Getronic GmbH Warnstedtstr. 57-59 22525 Hamburg=20 Tel +49-40-54744-100 Fax +49-40-54744-150 Sorry, I don=B4t know a distributor in the UK=85 How much do you need? 73! Stefan / DK7FC -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@= blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Ken Gesendet: Sonntag, 29. November 2009 19:54 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: Re: AW: 4kv diode=20 Hi Stefan. Thanks Stefan, do you have a source for either the BV8 or the BV16?,= I have been unable to find one. 73 Ken M0KHW ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 6:05 PM Subject: LF: AW: 4kv diode=20 Hi Ken,=20 My hint is to try a BV8 Diode. It is able to take 500mA. On my work,= I have good experiences with the BV16, the 16kV Version.=20 Each one costs abt 1=80. Three in parallel, thermal coupled, should= be no problem at all. And: there=B4s no need for extra cooling! 73, Stefan=20 -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@= blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Ken Gesendet: Sonntag, 29. November 2009 12:05 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: 4kv diode=20 Hello All. I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or equivalent diode, BY4 4kv @ 1A,= BY6 6kv @ 1A, I have searched the web and looked in Farnell, any ide= as please. 73. Ken M0KHW =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01CA71B1.E2D8F5A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1258" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Stefan.
Thankyou.
Ken
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 30, 20= 09 9:52=20 AM
Subject: LF: AW: Re: AW: 4kv= diode

Hi Ken,=20

 

We have=20 ordered these diodes before some years at:

Getronic=20 GmbH

Warnstedtstr. 57-59

22525=20 Hamburg=  

Tel=20 +49-40-54744-100

Fax=20 +49-40-54744-150

 

Sorry, I=20 don=B4t know a distributor in the U= K=85

How much do=20 you need?

 

73! Stefan=20 / DK7FC

 

 

 

 

-----Urspr=FCngliche=20 Nachricht-----

Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von=20 Ken

Gesendet: Sonntag, 29.=20 November 2009 19:54

An:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Betreff: LF: Re: AW:=20 4kv diode

 

Hi=20 Stefan.

Thanks=20 Stefan, do you have a source for either the BV8 or the BV16?, I have= been=20 unable to find one.

 

73

Ken

M0KHW

-----=20 Original Message -----

From:=20 Stefan Sch=E4fer=20

To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Sent:=20 Sunday, November 29, 2009 6:05 PM

Subject:=20 LF: AW: 4kv diode

 

Hi Ken,=20

My hint is=20 to try a BV8 Diode. It is able to take 500mA. On my work, I have goo= d=20 experiences with the BV16, the 16kV Version.

Each one=20 costs abt 1=80. Three in parallel, thermal coupled, should be no pro= blem at all.=20 And: there=B4s no need for extra cooling!

 

73, Stefan=20

 

-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----

Von:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org]=20 Im Auftrag von Ken

Gesendet: Sonntag, 29.=20 November 2009 12:05

An:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Betreff: LF: 4kv diode=20

 

Hello=20 All.

I am=20 looking for a BY4 or BY6 or equivalent diode, BY4   4kv @= 1A,=20 BY6  6kv @ 1A, I have searched the web and looked in Farnell,= any ideas=20 please.

 

73.

Ken

 

M0KHW   

------=_NextPart_000_0058_01CA71B1.E2D8F5A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me07.mx.aol.com (rly-me07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.41]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME054-9c84aff23bc39f; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:40:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME074-9c84aff23bc39f; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:40:14 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9QKp-0001FI-OD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:39:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9QKp-0001F9-39 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:39:07 +0000 Received: from 113-mo2-8.acn.waw.pl ([62.121.95.113] helo=paranoid.lipkowski.org) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9QKn-0006N4-Bu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:39:07 +0000 Received: from paranoid.lipkowski.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id nAELdYdd004844 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:39:34 +0100 Received: from localhost (sq5bpf@localhost) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.6/Submit) with ESMTP id nAELdYCY004841 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:39:34 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: paranoid.lipkowski.org: sq5bpf owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:39:34 +0100 (CET) From: Jacek Lipkowski To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <4AFF0E3B.90402@inext.at> Message-ID: References: <4AFF0E3B.90402@inext.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score-sq5bpf: -2.601 () BAYES_00,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 137kHz grabber in SP Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) On Sat, 14 Nov 2009, Oberreiter Oswald wrote: > your grabber works very good thank you . thanks! good conditions tonight, lots of stations, and i think that the local qrm level is a bit lower vy 73 Jacek / SQ5BPF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (rly-dc10.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.39]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC084-b464afc81d521d; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:45:18 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC102-b464afc81d521d; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:44:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8hSI-0007qX-OA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:43:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8hSI-0007qO-Bp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:43:50 +0000 Received: from smtp6.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.192]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8hSH-0000qx-Np for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:43:50 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3626.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 031ED7000082 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:43:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3626.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id EA4077000083 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:43:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.8.173]) by mwinf3626.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id A7FB67000082 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:43:41 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091112214341688.A7FB67000082@mwinf3626.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <2EB9AB3966984B91BB0C369B32CF12FC@AGB> From: "Graham" To: Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:43:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C4_01CA63E1.33129E10" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00C4_01CA63E1.33129E10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can anyone clarify the situation as to who can work who=20 is this the same as the USA ?=20 Tnx - G .. =20 >From the IARU web site=20 As of 30 October 2009 Canada issued two licences in the Developmental= Service in the range 504-509 kHz. a.. VE1ZZ has been assigned VX9PSO and is reported on 504.6 kHz=20 b.. VO1NA has been assigned VX9MRC and is reported on 507.77 and 508= .5 kHz Two more stations, VE3OHH and VE7BDQ, are expected to become active so= on.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_00C4_01CA63E1.33129E10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Can anyone clarify the  situation as to&= nbsp; who=20 can work who
is this the  same as the  USA=20 ? 
&nb= sp;
Tnx - G ..   

From the  IARU  web site

As of 30 October 2009 Canada issued two licences in the Development= al Service=20 in the range 504-509 kHz.

  • VE1ZZ has been assigned VX9PSO and is reported on 504.6 kHz=20
  • VO1NA has been assigned VX9MRC and is reported on 507.77 and 508= .5=20 kHz
Two more stations, VE3OHH and VE7BDQ, are expected to become= active=20 soon.


------=_NextPart_000_00C4_01CA63E1.33129E10-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME063-9ce4af6e1ae158; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:20:26 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME082-9ce4af6e1ae158; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:20:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N79Xs-0006p3-QW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:19:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N79Xs-0006ou-85 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:19:12 +0000 Received: from mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.47]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N79Wu-0000zF-6m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:18:13 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.1]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091108151905.HSRB17029.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:19:05 +0000 Received: from [86.27.93.99] (helo=jimdesk) by know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N79Xk-0005UN-Vq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:19:05 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:19:01 -0000 Message-ID: <001b01ca6086$cd0966b0$0617aac0@jimdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcpghsvF3O/FUKyBTE+0SEWKcbALHA== X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Eps_Ghm3EGtr7jF7nUIA:9 a=g-R94TfW7Gh0stLosyMA:7 a=yew2KIE3PiFnGWLxW_JCNTBaR98A:4 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=2Y_AYPvP-KM97D4rTIYA:9 a=kG40DQDcz4MwQ-Z5wtQA:7 a=yKdwwVG_gA7ewF7Dufe-fckQOn4A:4 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Losses due to ant in tree? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001C_01CA6086.CD0966B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_FONT_BIG, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01CA6086.CD0966B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All, The vertical 5m section of my inverted L runs up into the branches of a silver birch tree. The wire goes over a large bough at 5m or so and then comes out of the branches for some 22m down to a 4m high pole attached to the garage. Has anyone a guesstimation of the losses in signal caused by running the wire through the tree? Using vertload and tophat2 I calculate the antenna to be around 0.25% efficient but this assumes it is in free space. Can anyone suggest a figure for the additional loss due to tree heating! The vertical element is actually sloping at about 20 degree from the tree down to the loading coil. The length is nearer 6metres but the vertical height over ground at the bough is about 5m. (Santa may be bringing me a set of swaged poles with which to build mark 2, well away from the silver birch!) With best regards Jim Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01CA6086.CD0966B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi All,

 

The vertical 5m section of my inverted= L runs up into the branches of a silver birch tree.  The wire goes over a large boug= h at 5m or so and then comes out of the branches for some 22m down to a 4m high pole= attached to the garage.

 

Has anyone a guesstimation of the losse= s in signal caused by running the wire through the tree?

 

Using vertload and tophat2 I calculate= the antenna to be around 0.25% efficient but this assumes it is in free space.  Can= anyone suggest a figure for the additional loss due to tree heating!

 

The vertical element is actually slopin= g at about 20 degree from the tree down to the loading coil.  The length is nearer 6me= tres but the vertical height over ground at the bough is about 5m.

 

(Santa may be bringing me a set of swag= ed poles with which to build mark 2, well away from the silver birch!)

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim=

 

 

Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS

------=_NextPart_000_001C_01CA6086.CD0966B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df02.mx.aol.com (rly-df02.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.15]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF062-5334af711bb244; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:45:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF026-5334af711bb244; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:45:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7CkT-0008EV-TY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:44:25 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7CkT-0008EM-7E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:44:25 +0000 Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7CkR-00063A-Fc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:44:24 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-3.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.3]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091108183917.SKTR27507.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-3.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:39:17 +0000 Received: from [86.27.93.99] (helo=jimdesk) by know-smtpout-3.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7CfU-0006Fr-9R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:39:17 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: References: <112811.74996.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:39:12 -0000 Message-ID: <004101ca60a2$c4faa710$0617aac0@jimdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <112811.74996.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Thread-Index: AcpgneMdsq5dm+MQTLiVSwlzrt96zwABMEuw X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=G3Oen64sID_n_jXPMxEA:9 a=cxgVpT4_1uNhWTmyt8hV0oF7JnsA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=MZiTZN4oxdAVc4QL:21 a=Rmj3QT_t3V4eoGXx:21 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=AJHrFXilO5qSd6QNsLAA:7 a=7_Gti2tFF_vNHAOmdH_RIEuQXOcA:4 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0042_01CA60A2.C4FAA710" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING, LINES_OF_YELLING_2 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01CA60A2.C4FAA710 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well done Chris!! With best regards Jim Dr. James Cowburn From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Chris Osborn Sent: 08 November 2009 18:03 To: LF Group Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO LF It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m. This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 600m / 80m. Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0CF - No. 998. QSO break-down according to mode: 928 CW, 34 RTTY and 5 QRSS 600m STATIONS My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many of these go back to the start of the UK 600m allocation in March 2007. Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding beacons). Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of again: G3KZU, G3YHV . . . Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT: G3UNT, G3VTT, G4GDR. . . MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the same stations many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of my total contacts. My most frequently worked stations are: GW3UEP - 120 G3KEV - 102 M0FMT - 90 G3ZWH - 80 (alas now SK) G3DXZ - 67 G4GDR - 60 EI0CF/ GI4DPE - 51 M0JXM - 48 G3UNT - 45 G3VTT - 38 CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a cross-band QSO: DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . . and our few EU MF friends are still active: ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . . WSPR ON 600m I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for the WSPR mode was never achieved for hand sent Morse (CW), which after all is the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF marine band. If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stations operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band then I guess it may be time for me to QSY. 73 Chris G3XIZ ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01CA60A2.C4FAA710 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Well done Chris= !! 

 

 

 

With best regar= ds

 

 

Jim=

 

 

Dr. James Cowbu= rn

 

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org] On Behalf Of C= hris Osborn
Sent: 08 November 2009= 18:03
To: LF Group
Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 10= 00 th MF QSO

 

LF

It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m.<= br> This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 600m= / 80m.

Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0C= F - No. 998.

QSO break-down according to mode:     928 CW,  34 RTTY  and   5 QRSS

600m STATIONS

My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many of these go back to= the start of the UK  600m allocation in March 2007.
Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding= beacons).
Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of again:  G3KZU, G3YHV . . .
Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT:  G3U= NT, G3VTT, G4GDR. . .

MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED

With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the same= stations many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of my total contact= s.
My most frequently worked stations are:

GW3UEP - 120     G3KEV - 102   &nbs= p;  M0FMT - 90     G3ZWH  -  80  (alas= now SK)
G3DXZ    -   67     G4GDR -   60      EI0CF/ GI4DPE  -&n= bsp; 51   M0JXM - 48
G3UNT    -   45     G3VTT=   -   38

CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS

There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a cros= s-band QSO:
DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . .

and our few EU MF friends are still active:
ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . .

WSPR ON 600m

I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for the= WSPR mode was never achieved for  hand sent Morse (CW), which after all is= the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF marine band.
If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stations= operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band then I guess= it may be time for me to QSY.

73 Chris G3XIZ






 

------=_NextPart_000_0042_01CA60A2.C4FAA710-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (rly-dc10.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.39]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC014-b4a4af726d2201; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:15:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC106-b4a4af726d2201; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:15:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7E9Z-0000Xj-2y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:14:25 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7E9Y-0000Xa-LW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:14:24 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7E9V-0006Oy-Ne for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:14:24 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so2852513bwz.4 for ; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:14:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=PLHnMzfKi4cERz8/4nEDMzLUiiQt0nVYUbg36hhHlNg=; b=jbpyEyVzBW+3sPyVfMXjxI7+tkCsEaJ9PXIaUCfOkZVYwX90/gqV3q5C3V2sIDX7t0 7m0NxmgWdBiEGB5NAiMHm6J6ds8gFqRJRdN4PEPGap1M/JNTnprKYD0DDCqVCruUfqRr VUVoPZ2Jl3pKoFhKZ7lKHH6APFTjRp3idQ3d8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=bfjsORazhLRVAeR8MHgTA72fPY2lEz57N4wENkr9H41zWvkwqrxjgZAVDd+t+GOYEj /eA6KDVxjQDt4dsjhkQweRZReRRkCud7W9OBi4Pnc0BQKL+wbTwMFPmtoIeKGwqgwnnV nymaNte42DAobddWeF0qTdPLl0bQGkr7iQEfg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.158.7 with SMTP id s7mr602749hbc.53.1257711255518; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:14:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <029701ca60af$4f444d20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <027601ca60a2$841cd150$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <020b01ca60a9$4495adc0$0201a8c0@Clemens04> <029701ca60af$4f444d20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:14:15 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e640961e9d7cf00477e1b8cd X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m210.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0016e640961e9d7cf00477e1b8cd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 SHANNON... Andy www.g4jnt.com http://www.g4jnt.com/6dBBetter.ppt (just presented at the Martlesham Microwave Roundtable) this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny state 2009/11/8 mal hamilton > Two points > > Why waste 2.4 kHz when QRS only needs a few Hz with a better S/N ratio. > > --0016e640961e9d7cf00477e1b8cd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Two points

Why waste 2.= 4 kHz when QRS only needs a few Hz with a better S/N ratio.

--0016e640961e9d7cf00477e1b8cd-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc02.mx.aol.com (rly-mc02.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.86]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC021-d5d4b00b0ae201; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:54:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC025-d5d4b00b0ae201; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:53:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9qlk-0003eq-Ej for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:52:40 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9qlj-0003eh-KQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:52:39 +0000 Received: from web28104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.124]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9qlj-0003Bk-Fx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:52:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 85957 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Nov 2009 01:52:34 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1258336353; bh=b82e0DERc9njqypfYAHvrMGJcCfsOKhVplu81OZsfV8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=boCAyNY6xbjlRsG+NFXFzQCPaRf+KZjt7DgfPhmID7HksZK/mI8qmuMPtcpZuZclJgQ3nn+w0uYJLHykm38sQxNQjIg1zpRYydMu9u7uAe/ABl4HOMIuhGycYkhGNpbEckG/p+dM7GsjFi0OA6G2uo4RNxXfV7k/N24+a5U+kvI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Lkb8McKiQq+lAh02MZrppM1uNzEF9mGljLHicgDfZYhmhYzJTgr2mzZ48ZrYpgxV5UegQ2naOY9C2Uab3eBxwIyBkT7WW8l5axmTNMA+yFW8WidS7GrAsIcuB1thkzp/jIGF0H9NpulNZIOvqXnm/m7U3zkr7gfCjjURbPMnjHk=; Message-ID: <957920.84927.qm@web28104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 2tOTeU0VM1k6X1sutHHLf22aIlQnPlteicnF7gulTcvv6jf9DfbPW1MKxE3EvlPGsgPix6wHrNsQ33uCe.N_V0RJPRTM2ZatbFKDZhuQVvo9CKExoNxy7IGoZBpzB1S8hRimmXBhmUOFK6RNARiaRnfeYR41Qde3yTZ74ypsCGgwgZkEU_VFLMwDZKr.bTT.23uwy1PYnebQumF7ITresLiDAKjH8hm4VxflxMWAo8GSfY5JjZ4cBQoxXgzBvvOCZV4ZQXyI1N2YFou5ETbD5RbcUd9P8KBvzsdRruXf2WZFMC.NoYOXHuRlGf0dDG.4tVLTLw-- Received: from [86.137.246.146] by web28104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:52:33 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:52:33 -0800 (PST) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <004201ca6643$2cf00590$0517aac0@jimdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: RE: LF: G7NKS - Double Side Band: wspr? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-422563549-1258336353=:84927" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d243.2 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-422563549-1258336353=:84927 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jim =C2=A0 OK too bad you can't resolve it with your existing Sound Card.=20 =C2=A0 When considering a USB SC think about SDR (the future of Ham Radio). M-Aud= io is considered a good card but see M0KGK's site for comparison with the= Creative Labs Sound Blaster Live a cost effective solution (these are sti= ll available although production=C2=A0I believe has now ceased). =C2=A0=C2=A0http://www.m0kgk.co.uk/sdr/soundcards.php =C2=A0 Oh BTW double side band WSPR dosn't bother me in the least....hee. =C2=A0 Best of luck 73 petefmt --- On Sun, 15/11/09, James Cowburn wrote: From: James Cowburn Subject: RE: LF: G7NKS - Double Side Band: wspr? To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sunday, 15 November, 2009, 22:29 Dear LF =C2=A0 The double or treble reports on strong signals are due to a main hum probl= em on my system. =C2=A0It only seems to appear on 500 and only on signals= where I am strong e,g, MOBMU and MOFMT. =C2=A0I=E2=80=99m working on some= solutions and will also be getting a USB sound card to try and further is= olate the sound from the mains. =C2=A0 Apologies to all for the multiple decodes. =C2=A0I have tried turning the= power down on the TX to get the extra decodes at M0BMU and MOFMT below -3= 0dB so they are not picked up but to no avail. =C2=A0Pete=E2=80=99s too cl= ose and Jim M=E2=80=99s antenna is too good! =C2=A0 USB sound card has been advised by several others so that=E2=80=99s my nex= t port of call =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 With best regards =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Jim =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Dr. James Cowburn =C2=A0 From: owner- rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner- rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org ] On Behalf Of M0FMT Sent: 15 November 2009 21:59 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: G7NKS - Double Side Band: wspr? =C2=A0 Hi Jim and LF group =C2=A0 Please observe the reports I am getting from Jim G7NKS WSPR transmissions= :-=20 =C2=A0 First a weak one and then a strong one then a weak one (see below)=C2=A0do= es it mean there's a sprog / modulation on Jim's transmission off set by= approximately +/-50c/s? I will try to get a time domain display of it whe= n I have time, it may provide a clue. Is it my RX? =C2=A0 2009-11-15 21:26=C2=A0 =C2=A0G7NKS=C2=A0 =C2=A00.503904=C2=A0 =C2=A0-26=C2=A0 =C2=A0-1=C2=A0 =C2=A0IO92ub=C2=A0 =C2=A00.02=C2=A0 =C2=A0M0FMT=C2=A0 =C2=A0IO91ux=C2=A0 =C2=A09=C2=A0 =C2=A0180=C2=A0 2009-11-15 21:26=C2=A0 =C2=A0G7NKS=C2=A0 =C2=A00.503853=C2=A0 =C2=A0+2=C2=A0 =C2=A0-1=C2=A0 =C2=A0IO92ub=C2=A0 =C2=A00.02=C2=A0 =C2=A0M0FMT=C2=A0 =C2=A0IO91ux=C2=A0 =C2=A09=C2=A0 =C2=A0180=C2=A0 2009-11-15 21:26=C2=A0 =C2=A0G7NKS=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 0.503803=C2=A0 -25=C2=A0 =C2=A0-1=C2=A0 =C2=A0IO92ub=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00.02=C2=A0 =C2=A0M0FMT=C2=A0 =C2=A0 IO91ux=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A09=C2=A0 =C2=A0180=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Don't think=C2=A0it's my old HB=C2=A0drifty DC RX that accounts for it bec= ause all other reports are OK as far as I have seen to date but am open to= comment. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 73 petefmt =C2=A0 =20 --0-422563549-1258336353=:84927 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Jim
 
OK too bad you can't resolve it with your existing Sound Card.
 
When considering a USB SC think about SDR (the future of Ham Radio).= M-Audio is considered a good card but see M0KGK's site for comparison wit= h the Creative Labs Sound Blaster Live a cost effective solution (these ar= e still available although production I believe has now ceased).
 
Oh BTW double side band WSPR dosn't bother me in the least....hee.
 
Best of luck 73 petefmt

--- On Sun, 15/11/09, James Cowburn= <james.cowburn@virgin.net> wrote:

From: James Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.n= et>
Subject: RE: LF: G7NKS - Double Side Band: wspr?
To: rsgb_lf_= group@blacksheep.org
Date: Sunday, 15 November, 2009, 22:29

Dear LF

 =

The double or treble= reports on strong signals are due to a main hum problem on my system. &nb= sp;It only seems to appear on 500 and only on signals where I am strong e,= g, MOBMU and MOFMT.  I=E2=80=99m working on some solutions and will= also be getting a USB sound card to try and further isolate the sound fro= m the mains.

 =

Apologies to all for= the multiple decodes.  I have tried turning the power down on the TX= to get the extra decodes at M0BMU and MOFMT below -30dB so they are not= picked up but to no avail.  Pete=E2=80=99s too close and Jim M=E2=80= =99s antenna is too good!

 =

USB sound card has= been advised by several others so that=E2=80=99s my next port of call

 =

 =

 =

With best regards

=  

=  

Jim

=  

=  

Dr. James Cowburn

 

From:= owner- rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner- rsgb_lf_group@= blacksheep.org ] On Behalf Of = M0FMT
Sent: 15 Nove= mber 2009 21:59
To: rsg= b_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject:= Re: LF: G7NKS - Double Side Band: wspr?

  =

Hi Jim and LF group

 

Please observe the reports I am getting from Jim G7NK= S WSPR transmissions :-

 

First a weak one and then a strong one then a weak on= e (see below) does it mean there's a sprog / modulation on Jim's tran= smission off set by approximately +/-50c/s? I will try to get a time domai= n display of it when I have time, it may provide a clue. Is it my RX?

 

2009-11-15 21:26 = ;

 G7NKS 

 0.503904 <= /SPAN>

 -26 

 -1 =

 IO92ub 

 0.02 

 M0FMT 

 IO91ux 

 9 <= /FONT>

 180 

2009-11-15 21:26 = ;

 G7NKS 

 0.503853 <= /SPAN>

 +2 =

 -1 =

 IO92ub 

 0.02 

 M0FMT 

 IO91ux 

 9 <= /FONT>

 180 

2009-11-15 21:26 = ;

 G7NKS 

   0.503803=  

-25 

 -1 =

 IO92ub 

   0.02&nbs= p;

 M0FMT 

  IO91ux 

    9&= nbsp;

 180 

 

 

 

 

 

Don't think it's my old HB drifty DC RX tha= t accounts for it because all other reports are OK as far as I have seen= to date but am open to comment.

 

  73 petefmt

 


=20 --0-422563549-1258336353=:84927-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (rly-dd08.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.155]) by air-dd10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD101-b954b0580f63c0; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:31:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD087-b954b0580f63c0; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:31:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBAox-0001Se-RW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:29:27 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBAox-0001SV-Ei for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:29:27 +0000 Received: from mail-yx0-f203.google.com ([209.85.210.203]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBAor-0000vm-Ac for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:29:27 +0000 Received: by yxe41 with SMTP id 41so5273584yxe.30 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:29:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=a41Jhz7aLf372YbVDS3/KcCsiMoFtCSzobI9GSHANjw=; b=gcUqgQ/o+FvF6uUR0kpBJRxoi3MQMcDKX7uh9EgxsJekvzMeMUuZT/b0tMTVOoyNWb nlEmQoG8lwJ6RSzvDllmvrpdDo2TNseMIk6J6JmRHcSEDf8L37tqZfAeuIQGvzw2p1l4 sJWEcgJdMPfFfEOl6Gzipm620rL2fW0Bw3J/A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MggknXRi2I+TbN4JMcuZ4wbUwKDHLOLkmdHVVHkLclBwUHVuoV1jquSIgajgq1P84Q vWgkW4Ez8Ed2vMHjCEr+b4qiFrPhJ87VwuMsCuLowtx8g2J+cwT0n9r0cUChdP1BADuX eg6K8ySfOyUoyaTOgwKPmk6s6NMSDqGbsKNdQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.168.204 with SMTP id l12mr32575hbe.36.1258651747793; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:29:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B0570B4.8040209@telia.com> References: <4B0570B4.8040209@telia.com> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:29:07 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR 2.0 is now available Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d269.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) It has a calibration procedure built in, but as far as I can make out, is aimed at solving frequency offset / tuning errors. I may have missed something, but there seems to be no facility to calibrate for soundcard errors in the same way as WSJT does, which can affect symbol timing . As we found in discussion on theis reflector a year or so ago. Sample rate timing error is enough to destroy WSPR decoding even when signals are strong. May be wrong, and will go and re read the appendices associated with calibration, but no mention is made, specifically, of soundcard sampling rate error - only refrences to frequency error. FOrtunately, as WSPR is designed around 12000Hz sampling, this is rarely out by more than a few ppm in most modern cards. See my Column in the latest RadCom for some soundcard sampling rate measurements - and how bad some are Andy www.g4jnt.com This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health and safety police 2009/11/19 Johan Bodin : > > =A0http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/ > > > 73 > Johan SM6LKM > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (rly-dg06.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.90]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG074-5ce4b01bd1c327; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:59:33 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG061-5ce4b01bd1c327; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:59:10 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA8eD-0000FO-LZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:58:05 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA8eD-0000FF-4t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:58:05 +0000 Received: from gv-out-0910.google.com ([216.239.58.188]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA8eB-0002GG-D4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:58:05 +0000 Received: by gv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c6so765294gvd.38 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:58:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=DBJ8CVnM/eGaqJZZymi78vaTletnmADy90pJ3x9aEcU=; b=UoF5hAOs8zlcQzUq9+2oBhuXgtsRYtfPni44zS+8A63s8xCv172MpaL5731PCg8P1P qT4KkUj9HP8lXhodqEbKJFA61QUShnD1BGJDVjhPkJCXKg0PKPQlpu3kL1qVS7jrpB0Y PILLpJ9kmhshpoyZDXOpc+z/kji6H6hSBdtQo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=uaKhLs3FTrxs/WZJpxo5wT0opO+j3esCVj7Simb4t0ivhStx18Qp/+2N8gURrug2uA X4AUyjjH8r+kqTQxIYZgLiMGwqOd0PJaSrqNBHPWCOQz1wTlGFTQUsP/jwz84q98LaRl NZZAyVmsotsl/xJpiccZyndk/w90ff6rVLXmM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.145.33 with SMTP id q33mr802061hba.126.1258405082464; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:58:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091116214056.d7nc9v7srowggc88@webmail6.kuleuven.be> References: <20091116214056.d7nc9v7srowggc88@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:58:02 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR Entry Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m243.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Oh yes - missed that! The freqs are all at odd spacings as well. I find it hard to believe the WSPR decoding algorithm will generate the same decode for random noise twice - unless, perhaps, the noise is correlated in the frequency domain. THEN... perhaps its feasible there is a sort of decodeable time/frequency comb that just about triggers the sync detect. Weird ! Andy www.g4jnt.com This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health and safety police 2009/11/16 Rik Strobbe : > Andy, > > note that the 2 hits have the same timestamp but different frequency. > You can more of these double "fake" hits: > > 2009-01-30 20:00 =A0 Y23LWM =A0 0.137592 =A0 -26 =A0 0 =A0 AC23 =A0 10= =A0 DF6NM =A0 JN59nk > =A0 18083 =A0 194 > 2009-01-30 20:00 =A0 Y23LWM =A0 0.137568 =A0 +8 =A0 0 =A0 AC23 =A0 10 = =A0 DF6NM =A0 JN59nk > 18083 =A0 194 > > 2009-10-22 05:18 =A0 CE8QNK =A0 0.503890 =A0 -21 =A0 -3 =A0 OB23 =A0 0.0= 05 =A0 SQ2BXI > JO94gj =A0 15730 =A0 291 > =A02009-10-22 05:18 =A0 CE8QNK =A0 0.503969 =A0 -25 =A0 -3 =A0 OB23 =A0= 0.005 =A0 SQ2BXI > JO94gj =A0 15730 =A0 291 > > 2009-11-08 04:50 =A0 G17LSZ =A0 0.503817 =A0 -27 =A0 -2 =A0 GA37 =A0 0.0= 1 =A0 SQ2BXI > =A0JO94gj =A0 15730 =A0 62 > 2009-11-08 04:50 =A0 G17LSZ =A0 0.503829 =A0 -26 =A0 -2 =A0 GA37 =A0 0.0= 1 =A0 SQ2BXI > =A0JO94gj =A0 15730 =A0 62 > > 2009-11-12 21:12 =A0 E51OOP =A0 0.503999 =A0 -33 =A0 3 =A0 GB06 =A0 0.1= =A0 G4WGT =A0 IO83qo > =A0 14761 =A0 42 > 2009-11-12 21:12 =A0 E51OOP =A0 0.503810 =A0 -25 =A0 3 =A0 GB06 =A0 0.1= =A0 G4WGT =A0 IO83qo > =A0 14761 =A0 42 > > 2009-05-17 21:28 =A0 EN6WV =A0 0.503858 =A0 -17 =A0 -4 =A0 MD07 =A0 200= =A0 GM4ISM > IO85ar =A0 13421 =A0 324 > 2009-05-17 21:28 =A0 EN6WV =A0 0.503850 =A0 -24 =A0 -4 =A0 MD07 =A0 200= =A0 GM4ISM > IO85ar =A0 13421 =A0 324 > > 2009-09-08 19:42 =A0 NE9GWP =A0 0.503876 =A0 -24 =A0 1 =A0 OG12 =A0 0.5= =A0 G0HNW =A0 IO93cn > =A0 13386 =A0 318 > 2009-09-08 19:42 =A0 NE9GWP =A0 0.503851 =A0 -23 =A0 1 =A0 OG12 =A0 0.5= =A0 G0HNW =A0 IO93cn > =A0 13386 =A0 318 > > 2009-09-19 10:16 =A0 1Y3X =A0 0.503556 =A0 -33 =A0 1 =A0 AD87 =A0 2 =A0= K1JT =A0 FN20 > =A0=A013336 =A0 61 > 2009-09-19 10:16 =A0 1Y3X =A0 0.503468 =A0 -32 =A0 1 =A0 AD87 =A0 2 =A0= K1JT =A0 FN20 > =A0=A013336 =A0 61 > > and so on ... > > 73, Rik > > Quoting Andy Talbot : > >> Found in the database. =A0Two consecutive hits with the same details >> suggests an incorrectly set station.. >> >> Uraguay, in Central Africa !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> >> 2009-11-16 19:06=A0=A0CW5PPT=A0=A00.503997=A0=A0-30=A0=A03=A0=A0KJ31=A0= =A0+53=A0=A0199.526=A0=A0G4WGT >> IO83qo=A0=A06399=A0=A03976 >> 2009-11-16 19:06=A0=A0CW5PPT=A0=A00.503849=A0=A0-15=A0=A03=A0=A0KJ31=A0= =A0+53=A0=A0199.526=A0=A0G4WGT >> IO83qo=A0=A06399=A0=A03976 >> >> >> Andy >> www.g4jnt.com >> >> this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny stat= e >> >> > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me07.mx.aol.com (rly-me07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.41]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME011-9c54af6aceea2; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:35:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME071-9c54af6aceea2; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:35:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N761z-0005Rq-1o for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:34:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N761y-0005Rh-Jz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:34:02 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N760y-00085l-VJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:33:02 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so2579727bwz.4 for ; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:33:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=JuZCDtAdYP5DxXJ0qZogCZlWgT6n7qs+saILy9eBP0Q=; b=E3bcDD+kcbq7skZLsF91m3uxTe3bKmScCSsbs7aJxfHZFdrj7QUbkiapt2lJfqmvH5 h3v/Tx2NWn3aZx3cr5O06hop80U0KMlaLkbslQ+it1Efie4NV33dYM1HjYBhqzZZgd2m 4EZgPh40j5PklGmp/15RU9HibSuJO194UjjU0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=vlF8roGoqH9z2CmWDaNGCYj2ZdMarYzdgZX+ANMizPP+FJaC9lTd+anJBz+yXppDUt gzGJvYkAfQJ4kkwD80tbNBuctxkyche5XipO9jqsEYOAruHSK0U39YxmAFMWXNbWWnwO E91tFRO4kbm1JJkovyXnwD5sYBiD744rw2xr0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.154.203 with SMTP id p11mr7044414bkw.180.1257680033860; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:33:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <019f01ca6061$34a80040$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <019f01ca6061$34a80040$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:33:53 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911080333n583d3ec3r31f5b21e4d047248@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175cd0e6a8cdf60477da7381 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m284.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0015175cd0e6a8cdf60477da7381 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear Mal, Personally I have found WSPR to be a *most* useful tool when exploring LF propagation and station improvements. The most valuable part has being able to go on the air and almost instantly get feedback (via the WSPR database) about quite subtle changes to my station. The change to my antenna a couple of days ago was an example when the reports from M0BMU and G7NKS * immediately* told me that a real step change improvement had been achieved. Amateur radio is about experiments, new challenges etc. WSPR has allowed me to try some simple, but valuable, experiments these last few weeks on 500kHz and I am grateful for Joe Taylor for having provided such a useful tool to do these with and for all the open minded and kind amateurs here who have helped me on my way. 73s Roger G3XBM 2009/11/8 mal hamilton > WSPR is like a LAZY MAN using a WALKING STICK !!!!!! > G3KEV > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --0015175cd0e6a8cdf60477da7381 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Mal,

Personally I have found WSPR to be a most useful= tool when exploring LF propagation and station improvements. The most val= uable part has being able to go on the air and almost instantly get feedba= ck (via the WSPR database) about quite subtle changes to my station. The= change to my antenna a couple of days ago was an example when the reports= from M0BMU and G7NKS immediately told me that a real step change= improvement had been achieved.

Amateur radio is about experiments, new challenges etc. WSPR has allow= ed me to try some simple, but valuable, experiments these last few weeks= on 500kHz and I am grateful for Joe Taylor for having provided such a use= ful tool to do these with and for all the open minded and kind amateurs he= re who have helped me on my way.

73s
Roger G3XBM





2= 009/11/8 mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
WSPR is like=A0a LAZY MAN using a WAL= KING STICK=20 !!!!!!
G3KEV
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G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088
--0015175cd0e6a8cdf60477da7381-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME012-9aa4b06bd321fa; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:00:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME036-9aa4b06bd321fa; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:00:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBVsp-0007Ch-Mu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:58:51 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBVsl-0007CU-48 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:58:47 +0000 Received: from out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.240]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBVsf-0002JE-7H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:58:43 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AloFAN5KBktcHdDq/2dsb2JhbACCJSyLNQbGcoQ8BIFv X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,778,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="103618996" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.29.208.234]) by out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 20 Nov 2009 15:56:29 +0000 Message-ID: <002d01ca69fa$05887590$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <001f01ca69f6$d27d9fc0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:56:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: 137.7 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002A_01CA69FA.052B8880" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01CA69FA.052B8880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nw calling u on CW 137.7 PSE KKKKK ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 3:33 PM Subject: LF: 137.7 Some one on 137.7 qrs3 good audible sig but just got the end V = K pse listen on 137.0 for cw g3kev de mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01CA69FA.052B8880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Nw calling u on CW 137.7 PSE KKKKK
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Sent: Friday, November 20, 20= 09 3:33=20 PM
Subject: LF: 137.7

Some one on 137.7 qrs3 good audible= sig but just=20 got the end  V      K
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------=_NextPart_000_002A_01CA69FA.052B8880-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db10.mx.aol.com (rly-db10.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.85]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB084-aeb4af13e332b5; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 03:41:28 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB101-aeb4af13e332b5; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 03:41:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N5bPg-0005Uj-99 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:40:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N5bPf-0005Ua-UR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:40:19 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N5bOL-0006x3-87 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:38:58 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC25A4C809F for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:40:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E9354C8059 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:40:13 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4AF13DEC.7090507@online.fr> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:40:12 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XGJ 04-11.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Henny , Warren , Yes , yes ! strong signal of Warren' beacon last night ! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj henny van elst a =E9crit : > Hi Warren,LF > Nice capture XGJ > Henny pa3cpm > best 73s > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzo= nden: > XGJ 04-11.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virusse= n het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Contr= oleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijl= agen worden afgehandeld. > > =20 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de08.mx.aol.com (rly-de08.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.144]) by air-de06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE062-4f84aff1959336; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:56:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE087-4f84aff1959336; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:55:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9Pdo-000111-T0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:54:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9Pdo-00010s-I0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:54:40 +0000 Received: from mailt.toya.net.pl ([217.113.224.9] ident=postfix) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9Pdn-0007tG-V8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:54:40 +0000 Received: from mail.toya.net.pl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.toya.net.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D0C62000004B for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:54:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.103] (unknown [10.11.152.246]) (Authenticated sender: unimlyn) by mail.toya.net.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0C37E2000008C for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:54:39 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4AFF190D.90501@toya.net.pl> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:54:37 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGlvdHIgTcWCeW5hcnNraQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 137kHz grabber in SP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Jacek Lipkowski wrote: > I've set up a temporary 137kHz grabber. Czesc Jacku, od razu sprawdzilem - no i dziala! :) Gratulacje - to chyba pierwszy graber w SP na 137 khz serdecznie pozdrawiam, Piotr, sq7mpj qth: Lodz /jo91rs/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (rly-mf07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.177]) by air-mf02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF023-9704afe55243af; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 01:59:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF076-9704afe55243af; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 01:58:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9CZd-0007GY-E8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 06:57:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9CZc-0007GP-VH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 06:57:28 +0000 Received: from smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com ([195.200.78.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9CZc-0003ov-BM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 06:57:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 822 invoked by uid 507); 14 Nov 2009 07:57:15 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO JR) (john.rabson@numeo.fr@217.67.155.178) by smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com with SMTP; 14 Nov 2009 07:57:15 +0100 Message-ID: <200911140757180734.0D4A657D@smtp2.numeo.fr> In-Reply-To: <4AFDE3D4.7070807@sighthound.demon.co.uk> References: <00df01ca6488$e9244a80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <5MsXcPDG6Z$KFw8w@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk> <4AFDC7CD.5000409@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <200911132205430250.0B2CC740@smtp2.numeo.fr> <4AFDE3D4.7070807@sighthound.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:57:18 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: PIRATES Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 On 13/11/2009 at 22:55 John P-G wrote: >I'm alright then, I passed my Morse test while I was still at school, at= =20 >Cullercoats Radio.... Ditto, but at King Edward biulding at GPO HQ. The key was screwed to the= right hand corner of the table and I am lefthanded! F5VLF/G3PAI From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de11.mx.aol.com (rly-de11.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.147]) by air-de08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE084-5154b02dde6175; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:32:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE116-5154b02dde6175; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:31:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NARse-0004c9-Qm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:30:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NARse-0004c0-4E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:30:16 +0000 Received: from imr-db02.mx.aol.com ([205.188.91.96]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NARsc-0001vA-1f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:30:16 +0000 Received: from imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (imo-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.136]) by imr-db02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nAHHU5Ho009048 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:30:05 -0500 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id l.d5f.5db508b3 (41811) for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:30:03 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:30:03 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: F4DTL@aol.com X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Trans. : LF: 136kHz WSPR tests Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_d5f.5db508b3.3834379b_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --part1_d5f.5db508b3.3834379b_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1258479002" -------------------------------1258479002 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -------------------------------1258479002 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
 -------------------------------1258479002-- --part1_d5f.5db508b3.3834379b_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: From: F4DTL@aol.com Full-name: F4DTL Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:59:08 EST Subject: Re: LF: 136kHz WSPR tests To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1258455548" X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 -------------------------------1258455548 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 No problem Roger, i can so start my WSPR beacon on 136 kHz at the same =20 time. =20 =20 F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 17/11/2009 11:44:20 Paris, Madrid, =20 rogerlapthorn@gmail.com a =E9crit : Dear all, Very encouraged by my results at 500kHz, I'd like to try some "low ERP"= =20 WSPR tests on 136kHz using the same small antenna and transverter (slight= ly=20 modified). Ideally I'd need stations like M0BMU, M0FMT, G7NKS and others= =20 not too far away from JO02dg to TX and to listen out for me, as these=20 stations get a good signal from me on 500kHz.=20 Please would you let me know if you'd be able to listen and upload 136kHz= =20 WSPR spots sometime in the next week or so? As yet I am not quite ready= to=20 start, but I'll let you know when I am. BTW, congratulations to the bigger stations on 500kHz achieving=20 transatlantic QSOs. 73s Roger G3XBM -------------------------------1258455548 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= FONT id=3Drole_document color=3D#000000 size=3D2 face=3DArial>
No problem Roger, i can so start my WSPR beacon on 136 kHz at the sam= e=20 time.
 
F4DTL=20 Nicolas JN18FP
Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 17/11/2009 11:44:20 Paris, Madrid,=20 rogerlapthorn@gmail.com a =E9crit :
D= ear=20 all,

Very encouraged by my results at 500kHz, I'd like to try som= e "low=20 ERP" WSPR tests on 136kHz using the same small antenna and transverter= =20 (slightly modified).  Ideally I'd need stations like M0BMU, M0FMT,= G7NKS=20 and others not too far away from JO02dg to TX and to listen out for me,= as=20 these stations get a good signal from me on 500kHz.

Please wo= uld=20 you let me know if you'd be able to listen and upload 136kHz WSPR spots= =20 sometime in the next week or so? As yet I am not quite ready to star= t, but=20 I'll let you know when I am.

BTW, congratulations to the bigger= =20 stations on 500kHz achieving transatlantic QSOs.

73s
Roger G3X= BM
 
 
 -------------------------------1258455548-- --part1_d5f.5db508b3.3834379b_boundary-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db04.mx.aol.com (rly-db04.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.79]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB082-abf4b03bfcf128; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:35:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB045-abf4b03bfcf128; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:35:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAgvj-0000kx-CG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:34:27 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAgvi-0000ko-OS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:34:26 +0000 Received: from web28102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.122]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAgvi-00062i-IF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:34:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 35968 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Nov 2009 09:34:20 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1258536860; bh=+T+Sf8imC7ccjqFvOdG8rnGX89qmABh9ZYISG7+FOYo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=J0nZaIio0Osnn+7ZUSzUbFPumncnyaVUHAIBW2wel/320HUzpDJ8Nyv4KrACKlTBllHeT9TP+fhBqsbM/hPEz6G4Z9fxZH30w0wMnRr0BOHMIYu7VW3pKqdkZyBdGzvnvc6N0HPWYgeQJTvOacRAKaTRnJ+8+nWYe4IKIh7dXxs= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FKg/kE4YN1smyBS6ig1tYL4YDsLCyzOBeYHJOyN05Vj+RUwSPQu9Et7QLX8tqMrfoGtAtGIyeMLGXiLfTOhJIZPCfXoxlaTaQzo0CFiIBaPE65D/EK9KDYXfXg3NIotXbSxBwZj30drKpX9rsdYHlCR0ndR3ar7wYLDrst7QYmM=; Message-ID: <798375.34836.qm@web28102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: cKum_rMVM1nQbfnSXeK6liu_vr7qRz6pOLA84OrkRWFBst251HvwNf4cv1qLD5jYYONt8VNWIUoPXVwDRWtEuL06FKHetsKXD82EvIUTo2U.qWe8Zr31EkMAh0Oe8XNYxA2zYr9zcYHXNULNpFbL2D7XMhGQ0yNH6PGugA6TlHbxoUjKPDaO4ZaUp6lzmfdOK.mzA.rWJJ9i7b03aGpqjn_gjbkZ8cm.K.lHG6v.TOnQfcHzzY9kEzODQ7VYvHQsSo.AX9JlCZ6.Npw3dnJPYSvN1MyZ9wg9B9j8SZVzSgo6hopEli_xQlOX8vadMZgrjzsgNdnFJg9PJg-- Received: from [86.140.72.194] by web28102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:34:20 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:34:20 +0000 (GMT) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Fw: Re: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-555521107-1258536860=:34836" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m251.2 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-555521107-1258536860=:34836 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi agn LF =A0 Sorry didn't finish my train of thought before the wonderfully world of Vi= sta decided prematurely to send the mail and I didn't get a chance to gram= mar and spell check it but hopefully the message got across. =A0 73 petefmt =A0 --- On Wed, 18/11/09, M0FMT wrote: From: M0FMT Subject: Re: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 9:26 Hi LF =A0 I think the issue is intermodulation products caused by over driving the= the linear RF stages of the TX into distortion=A0because when Jim reduces= drive the sidebands petty well disappear at this range. These observation= is based upon test carried out yesterday. There is another issue Jim seem= s to have which is that his PA grossly over heats (I think I am right) whe= n he reduces drive and that shouldn't happen. For modulation to take place= the output=A0of the modulator has to be mixed (hetrodyned) with the RF si= gnal. In this case I am guessing that the carrier is modulated by noise (5= 0c/s say) in the non linear (over driven linear RF stages) in the TX drive= r or output. The fact the PA over heats on reduced drive suggests to me the bias on the= PA transistors is being altered by changes to the drive anther indication= that the TX output may not be entirely linear --- On Wed, 18/11/09, James Moritz wrote: From: James Moritz Subject: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 1:13 Dear Jim LF Group, Looking at the sidebands on the G7NKS WSPR signals, mains hum or other noi= se by itself is not a sufficient explanation of what is seen. Simply addin= g 50Hz, 150Hz, etc. noise into the PC audio channel, then feeding the resu= lt into an SSB TX would give unwanted CW at frequencies offset from the SS= B carrier frequency by +/-50Hz, 150Hz and so on, i.e. with the carrier "di= al frequency" at 502.4kHz, unmodulated carriers would appear at 502.45kHz,= 502.55kHz and so on, in addition to the WSPR signal at around 503.9kHz.= However, these would probably largely be removed by the SSB filter in the= rig. Instead, we see unwanted sidebands offset from the wanted WSPR signa= l frequency by +/- 50Hz, 150Hz, with identical modulation to the wanted si= gnal. This requires some sort of non-linear process to cause the intermodu= lation between the presumed mains noise and the WSPR signal somewhere in= the TX chain. One possibility is that intermodulation occurs in the PA. Jim's descriptio= n suggests that he is persuading the HF PA in the IC735 to produce output= at 500k. At this frequency, the PA linearity may well be poor due to the= impedance matching, coupling, decoupling and feedback components in the= PA being wrong for the frequency, and high flux densities occuring in fer= rite components due to the low operating frequency. But this wouldn't expl= ain why Jim also gets multiple received signals from a strong station with= a clean signal, which implies some identical noise source and distortion= in the receive path. It would also mean the mains noise getting through= the filtering in the rig somehow. A possibility that would explain the unwanted sidebands appearing on both= TX and RX signals is if one of the oscillators in the system has mains no= ise sidebands. The sound card clock seems unlikely, since this is just a= simple crystal oscillator. I see the IC735 has some sort of multi-loop PL= L synthesiser, which would certainly be prone to this type of spurious sig= nal, since any kind of mains noise getting in would modulate the VCO frequ= encies, and would probably be the same on transmit and receive. This could= be checked by receiving a clean carrier somewhere around 500kHz, and exam= ining the audio output using Spec Lab or Argo or similar to see if 50Hz an= d 150Hz sidebands are present on the received audio tone. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Cowburn" To: Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:26 PM Subject: LF: rule #2 - assumption is the brother of all foul ups > LF >=20 >=20 >=20 > Sidebands are back!=A0 I think its caused by my TX getting hot and bothe= red by > struggling at 500.=A0 From cold it txs 50 watts but this soon drops back= to > around 35, and the sidebands appear.=A0 My sigs are better so having the= txfr > outside the shack and at the antenna is a vast improvement, but I now ne= ed > to work on the cooling. =20 --0-555521107-1258536860=:34836 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


Hi agn LF
 
Sorry didn't finish my train of thought before the wonderfully world= of Vista decided prematurely to send the mail and I didn't get a chance= to grammar and spell check it but hopefully the message got across.
 
73 petefmt
 
--- On Wed, 18/11/09, M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk&= gt; wrote:

From: M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>
Subje= ct: Re: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Dat= e: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 9:26

Hi LF
 
I think the issue is intermodulation products caused by over driving= the the linear RF stages of the TX into distortion because when Jim= reduces drive the sidebands petty well disappear at this range. These obs= ervation is based upon test carried out yesterday. There is another issue= Jim seems to have which is that his PA grossly over heats (I think I am= right) when he reduces drive and that shouldn't happen. For modulation to= take place the output of the modulator has to be mixed (hetrodyned)= with the RF signal. In this case I am guessing that the carrier is modula= ted by noise (50c/s say) in the non linear (over driven linear RF stages)= in the TX driver or output.
The fact the PA over heats on reduced drive suggests to me the bias= on the PA transistors is being altered by changes to the drive anther ind= ication that the TX output may not be entirely linear

--- On Wed= , 18/11/09, James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>= wrote:

From: James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworl= d.com>
Subject: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org
Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 1:13

Dear Jim LF Group,

Looking at the sidebands= on the G7NKS WSPR signals, mains hum or other noise by itself is not a su= fficient explanation of what is seen. Simply adding 50Hz, 150Hz, etc. nois= e into the PC audio channel, then feeding the result into an SSB TX would= give unwanted CW at frequencies offset from the SSB carrier frequency by= +/-50Hz, 150Hz and so on, i.e. with the carrier "dial frequency" at 502.4= kHz, unmodulated carriers would appear at 502.45kHz, 502.55kHz and so on,= in addition to the WSPR signal at around 503.9kHz. However, these would= probably largely be removed by the SSB filter in the rig. Instead, we see= unwanted sidebands offset from the wanted WSPR signal frequency by +/- 50= Hz, 150Hz, with identical modulation to the wanted signal. This requires= some sort of non-linear process to cause the intermodulation between the= presumed mains noise and the WSPR signal somewhere in the TX chain.
One possibility is that intermodulation occurs in the PA. Jim's description suggests that= he is persuading the HF PA in the IC735 to produce output at 500k. At thi= s frequency, the PA linearity may well be poor due to the impedance matchi= ng, coupling, decoupling and feedback components in the PA being wrong for= the frequency, and high flux densities occuring in ferrite components due= to the low operating frequency. But this wouldn't explain why Jim also ge= ts multiple received signals from a strong station with a clean signal, wh= ich implies some identical noise source and distortion in the receive path= . It would also mean the mains noise getting through the filtering in the= rig somehow.

A possibility that would explain the unwanted sideban= ds appearing on both TX and RX signals is if one of the oscillators in the= system has mains noise sidebands. The sound card clock seems unlikely, si= nce this is just a simple crystal oscillator. I see the IC735 has some sor= t of multi-loop PLL synthesiser, which would certainly be prone to this type= of spurious signal, since any kind of mains noise getting in would modula= te the VCO frequencies, and would probably be the same on transmit and rec= eive. This could be checked by receiving a clean carrier somewhere around= 500kHz, and examining the audio output using Spec Lab or Argo or similar= to see if 50Hz and 150Hz sidebands are present on the received audio tone= .

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU


----- Original Messa= ge ----- From: "James Cowburn" <james.cowburn@virgin.net>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Monday, Nov= ember 16, 2009 8:26 PM
Subject: LF: rule #2 - assumption is the brother= of all foul ups


> LF
>
>
>
> Sidebands are= back!  I think its caused by my TX getting hot and bothered by
&g= t; struggling at 500.  From cold it txs 50 watts but this soon drops= back to
> around 35, and the sidebands appear.  My sigs are be= tter so having the txfr
> outside the shack and at the antenna is a= vast improvement, but I now need
> to work on the cooling.

<= BR>



=20 --0-555521107-1258536860=:34836-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (rly-mf08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.178]) by air-mf07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF072-9784b0702801d3; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:56:44 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF086-9784b0702801d3; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:56:33 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBaVp-0001Ve-Hk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:55:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBaVp-0001VV-2Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:55:25 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBaVo-0002lY-I5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:55:25 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 454D97B802A for ; 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boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0099_01CA6607.DD4BFF70" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01CA6607.DD4BFF70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Walter, ufb copy: 2009-11-15 14:22 DI2AG 0.503899 +13 0 JN59no 0.5 DL4RAJ JN68kj 185 136 73 Clemens DL4RAJ ----- Original Message ----- From: Walter und Marianne Staubach To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 1:06 PM Subject: LF: DI2AG WSPR Dear MF, DI2AG is already on air in WSPR. 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Hi Walter,
 
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2009-11-15 14:22   DI2AG   0.503899   +13   0   JN59no   0.5   DL4RAJ   JN68kj   185   136 
 
73
Clemens
DL4RAJ
 
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Dear MF,
      = ; DI2AG is=20 already on air in WSPR. QRG 505.090KHz, PWR 0.4W ERP. Duty cycle 33%= . The=20 beacon will be busy until tomorrow morning.
73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF
 
 


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MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1532321340-1257721314=:39876" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, LINES_OF_YELLING,LINES_OF_YELLING_2 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d243.1 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-1532321340-1257721314=:39876 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Congratulations Chris =A0 A nice piece of work. And thank you for making 600metres the kind of band= it should be. =A0 I support your comments. We really need a band the size of the Norwegian= allocation to=A0coexist with=A0these incompatible, to CW,=A0modes.=A0 =A0 Very 73=A0=A0 Petefmt --- On Sun, 8/11/09, Chris Osborn wrote: From: Chris Osborn Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO To: "LF Group" Date: Sunday, 8 November, 2009, 18:03 LF It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m. This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 600m /= 80m. Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0CF -= No. 998. QSO break-down according to mode: =A0=A0=A0 928 CW,=A0 34 RTTY=A0 and=A0= =A0 5 QRSS 600m STATIONS My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many of= these go back to the start of the UK=A0 600m allocation in March 2007. Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding beaco= ns). Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of agai= n:=A0 G3KZU, G3YHV . . . Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT:=A0 G3UNT, G3V= TT, G4GDR. . . MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the same sta= tions many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of my total conta= cts. My most frequently worked stations are: GW3UEP - 120=A0=A0=A0=A0 G3KEV - 102=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 M0FMT - 90=A0=A0=A0=A0= G3ZWH=A0 -=A0 80=A0 (alas now SK) G3DXZ=A0=A0=A0 -=A0=A0 67=A0=A0=A0=A0 G4GDR -=A0=A0 60=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 EI0C= F/ GI4DPE=A0 -=A0 51=A0=A0 M0JXM - 48 G3UNT=A0=A0=A0 -=A0=A0 45=A0=A0=A0=A0 G3VTT=A0 -=A0=A0 38 CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a cross-ba= nd QSO: DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . . and our few EU MF friends are still active: ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . . WSPR ON 600m I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for the WSPR= mode was never achieved for=A0 hand sent Morse (CW), which after all is= the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF marine band. If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stations oper= ating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band then I guess= it may be time for me to QSY. 73 Chris G3XIZ =20 --0-1532321340-1257721314=:39876 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Congratulations Chris
 
A nice piece of work. And thank you for making 600metres the kind of= band it should be.
 
I support your comments. We really need a band the size of the Norweg= ian allocation to coexist with these incompatible, to CW, m= odes. 
 
Very 73   Petefmt

--- On Sun, 8/11/09, Chris Osbo= rn <g3xiz@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

From: Chris Osborn <g3xiz@yahoo.co.uk>Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO
To: "LF Group" <r= sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Date: Sunday, 8 November, 2009, 18:03
LF

It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO= using 600m.
This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of whi= ch were 600m / 80m.

Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up= G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0CF - No. 998.

QSO break-down according to= mode:     928 CW,  34 RTTY  and   5 QR= SS

600m STATIONS<= BR>
My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many of these go back to the star= t of the UK  600m allocation in March 2007.
Of these I have worked= or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding beacons).
Many stations= on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of again:  G3KZ= U, G3YHV . . .
Others were once very active but have subsequently gone= QRT:  G3UNT, G3VTT, G4GDR. . .

MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED

With so few active operators it is obviou= s that one will work the same stations many times and the top 10 stations= account for 70% of my total contacts.
My most frequently worked statio= ns are:

GW3UEP - 120     G3KEV - 102  = ;    M0FMT - 90     G3ZWH  - = 80  (alas now SK)
G3DXZ    -   67 &= nbsp;   G4GDR -   60      EI0= CF/ GI4DPE  -  51   M0JXM - 48
G3UNT  &nb= sp; -   45     G3VTT  -   38<= BR>
CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIO= NS

There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and= enjoy a cross-band QSO:
DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF .= . .

and our few EU MF friends are still active:
ON4KTJ, OR7T an= d OZ8NJ. . .

WSPR ON 600m
I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for th= e WSPR mode was never achieved for  hand sent Morse (CW), which after= all is the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF marine= band.
If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger sta= tions operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band th= en I guess it may be time for me to QSY.

73 Chris G3XIZ









=20 --0-1532321340-1257721314=:39876-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG014-9f44b0c41e9229; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:28:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG016-9f44b0c41e9229; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:28:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ND1yz-0007IN-VL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:27:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ND1yz-0007IE-6N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:27:29 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ND1yw-00057C-CX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:27:29 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so6818815bwz.4 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:27:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=R2oCmk+rRylONApOIWqDspiHvqOfnQVo+MUt2ynKJjY=; b=Ws63yTpeoN20otuYsmFGsh++Pj6Wh0+JXBxjdj93aah3OxQLIcPZVcLNLYb/C8/iaw wKE34zFZS5LESbTRljz9EJQnke+FqSIdQt48JquL6M7uRzExFEzBUR33sE4oUKda5tMj WRdKqcZMZJhYYN9lPd+OYOKoVoCbPMYODqq2c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=SYw98b75jUe+osWP5Diril1qYg2xXN2u3gU5nLzAFBWNKJPGXVv5Aro0tzs6XaPwSQ A92eZ7uPnQyLyEJH28UzbhhocCOMAka2XycaWOeB9N5/p6zvWTkngCO4A8EsJ4tCwMwV 9p3guI0ooUL3TnklRCbWynBp+UblT3y5qHx7U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.35.142 with SMTP id p14mr2437742bkd.21.1259094440661; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:27:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <9afca2640911241140j230515e9kcbcaffd3911ccb82@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:27:20 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911241227o2150e5ddn71496f2423f50633@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: IRF510 500kHz PA stability issues - advice please Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00032555aa16dfd2da047923c42d X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d300.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --00032555aa16dfd2da047923c42d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Andy, Thanks for the quick feedback. The 500kHz antenna is a 5m long vertical with a spiral top hat. It is fed via a (thickish) ferrite rod wound with the required inductance to resonate and this is tapped at the 50 ohm point (very low down - just a couple of turns). Well that is the general idea! Yes the IRF510 is rated at 100V. 73s Roger 2009/11/24 Andy Talbot > If you've studied the drain waveform when operating inrto a correct > load, and assuming its all within design guidelines, then the trouble > is because of nasty impedances presented by the antenna during the > tuning process. > > What sort of antenna matching are you using? The often suggested idea > of an an adjustable tap onto the loading coil can lead to damage as, > when the antenna is detuned, the small number of turns of the link, > with an untuned coil, appear not far different from a short circuit. > A Class E PA, when presented with a slightly inductive short circuit > can get a bit stressed. > > On my antenna over the years on 73, 137 now 500kHz the system has > always been fed in series, using a ferrite tapped transformer to match > load impedance. I kept well away from tapped or link windings as > they are not easy to calculate or predict reliably. WIth a series fed > system, a detuned antenna results in a high impedance. This may not > always good news either to some class-E designs, but all my LF/MF PAs > are completely open-circuit-proof voltage fed designs. The only > true class-E one here was for 1.8MHz, and can be seen at > http://www.g4jnt.com/TopbandPA.pdf . This was completely imune to > open and short circuits and seemed very robust; but I did use the > meatier and more robust higher voltage IRF540. Doesn't the IRF510 only > have a 100V rating? > > Andy > www.g4jnt.com > > This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health > and safety police > > > > 2009/11/24 Roger Lapthorn : > > I've been using a single IRF510 FET PA stage on 500kHz and it produces > > around 6-7W of RF. But, when adjusting my antenna I've managed to damage > > several devices now. I think the stage is running somewhere towards > class-E > > looking at the PA drain waveform on the scope and I believe either the > stage > > is going unstable or it is running in a condition in which too much > current > > (and heat) is taken and the device fails.500kHz teh ant > > > > Are there any simple "rules of thumb" or design/biasing/decoupling > > guidelines to ensure that my devices don't destroy themselves with a less > > than perfect load? > > > > Any simple advice would be appreciated. > > > > 73s > > Roger G3XBM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > > > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --00032555aa16dfd2da047923c42d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andy,

Thanks for the quick feedback. The 500kHz antenna is a 5m lon= g vertical with a spiral top hat. It is fed via a (thickish) ferrite rod= wound with the required inductance to resonate and this is tapped at the= 50 ohm point (very low down - just a couple of turns). Well that is the= general idea!

Yes the IRF510 is rated at 100V.

73s
Roger


2009/11/24 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
If you've= studied the drain waveform when operating inrto a correct
load, and assuming its all within design guidelines, then the trouble
is because of nasty impedances presented by the antenna during the
tuning process.

What sort of antenna matching are you using? =A0The often suggested idea of an an adjustable tap onto the loading coil can lead to damage as,
when the antenna is detuned, the small number of turns of the link,
with an untuned coil, appear not far different from a short circuit.
=A0A Class E PA, when presented with a slightly inductive short circuit can get a bit stressed.

On my antenna over the years on 73, 137 now 500kHz the system has
always been fed in series, using a ferrite tapped transformer to match
load impedance. =A0 I kept well away from tapped or link windings as
they are not easy to calculate or predict reliably. =A0WIth a series fed system, =A0a detuned antenna results in a high impedance. =A0This may not<= br> always good news either to some class-E designs, but all my LF/MF PAs
are completely open-circuit-proof voltage fed designs. =A0 =A0The only
true class-E one here was for 1.8MHz, and can be seen at
http://ww= w.g4jnt.com/TopbandPA.pdf =A0 . =A0 =A0This was completely imune to open and short circuits and seemed very robust; but I did use the
meatier and more robust higher voltage IRF540. Doesn't the IRF510 only=
have a 100V rating?

Andy
www.g4jnt.com

This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health
and safety police



2009/11/24 Roger Lapthorn <r= ogerlapthorn@gmail.com>:
> I've been using a single IRF510 FET PA stage on= 500kHz and it produces
> around 6-7W of RF. But, when adjusting my antenna I've managed to= damage
> several devices now.=A0 I think the stage is running somewhere toward= s class-E
> looking at the PA drain waveform on the scope and I believe either th= e stage
> is going unstable or it is running in a condition in which too much= current
> (and heat) is taken and the device fails.500kHz teh ant
>
> Are there any simple "rules of thumb" or design/biasing/dec= oupling
> guidelines to ensure that my devices don't destroy themselves wit= h a less
> than perfect load?
>
> Any simple advice would be appreciated.
>
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> http://g= 3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
> http://www.g3xbm= .co.uk
> G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088
>




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--00032555aa16dfd2da047923c42d-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (rly-mg10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.116]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG091-a3a4af9dad717a; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:28:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG104-a3a4af9dad717a; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:27:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7yEq-0000Vy-D8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:26:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7yEp-0000Vp-S5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:26:55 +0000 Received: from mail-yw0-f193.google.com ([209.85.211.193]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7yEn-0005lk-0N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:26:55 +0000 Received: by ywh31 with SMTP id 31so850155ywh.30 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:26:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wBDjgCIyBjq97nFLDicpH5PRKW1vKezDafcXswY7/pk=; b=g2RCF+BYOzYHdsAnPWRSFa2nyskzlYymhH2xWRpMtLKv6zQi+aiELBN3uLYXzUAdn0 rUXMtCUqQWIlfFIl58s64k0pqqjmjj5ixJYVADzrrlVxFGjsXvuZPvvkSXJVnL4Rp2IN 5kDMYmIfTSKm/PbfxUMM5el/4Ms2ituFXT4LY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Veiyq0KWBjdDTz7sH/0ZDn0F5jW0Cqpthoz6g6eFlYA5p8L0ul68M3eo+hXjWJvd/l qcVCvMp+nyR8iabjRchynq2/sfnwVJ5IZzapmlGwjh/W/i7rgvTqAbbdJCydQO4N4wRS mnBfR4NcUSUg4oUGTS14CRZ/FICtU185pJiQY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.44.2 with SMTP id r2mr1202982ybr.77.1257888404718; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:26:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <001101ca621e$dcdc3380$96949a80$@princeton.edu> References: <001101ca621e$dcdc3380$96949a80$@princeton.edu> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:26:44 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70911101326h1635833cr9e2fb43887612da8@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: jwfisher@alumni.princeton.edu DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500 kHz WSPR de VE1JF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Jim, Congrats on the Canadian 600 meter allocation! I would caution you against making the mistake that the ARRL made here in the U.S. and that was asking for a 20W ERP limit under the erroneous assumption that they could fly under the radar by asking for lower power. In fact the FCC just as easily granted 200W ERP to the WE2XGR stations and would have probably granted more power. WSPR, WOLF, QRSS etc. are fantastic tools and are absolutely necessary under very weak signal conditions but appeal to only a small subset of the amateur community. With 200W ERP we can easily be heard at transcontinental distances on cw and even ssb has crossed the ocean on 500kHz. I worry that each new amateur band seems to get less and less power, 250 Watts on 30 meters, 50 Watts on 60 meters - the logical progression would be 20 Watts on 500 and 1 Watt on137kHz. Eventually you will be able to transmit anywhere - with zero power! 73 Warren K2ORS On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Jim and Hannelore Fisher wrote: > Congratulations on #1000, G3XIZ! > > > > I chair the Radio Amateurs of Canada (RAC) LF/MF/HF Band Planning Commit= tee, > and several of us are interested in participating in the recently-author= ized > Canadian Developmental Service experiments on 500 kHz. We are receiving > active support on this effort from the Regulatory Affairs wing of RAC,= who > are Industry Canada=92s gatekeepers. This period is preliminary to the= coming > world meeting where this will be discussed. We hope to get several stati= ons > transmitting 25% of the time and a lot more across Canada receiving, so= it > should add to WSPR=92s activity and spotting at this frequency. > > > > I=92m not sure what you were saying about hand-sent CW vs. WSPR; I also= love > CW but am amazed what WSPR can offer. =A0Other authorized Canadian > participants in this program are already using CW, and most of my 100,00= 0+ > QSOs over 53+ years have been CW, but we are expecting our little group= to > propose two frequencies (we must be specific) and use 503.9 WSPR beacon > mode, break in using the WSJT WSPR mode, and QSY to our =93working frequ= ency=94, > where we can use any mode within the 1 kHz permissible bandwidth. Conten= ders > for working frequency QSOs might vary from some of the JT modes to OLIVI= A to > CW depending on what signal levels we are experiencing with feasible > antennas and our power limitations. The purpose of all this will be able= to > understand whether 600M can offer utility for ham radio-scale stations= for > emergency, and how its usability varies with conditions including aurora= . > > > > Last night, using my 160M 1/2w sloper aimed at the Pacific Rim, I spotte= d > SM6BHZ over 40 times on 502.4+. > > > > We are looking for info on successful approaches to generating WSPR and > other modes on 500 kHz. I=92m presently thinking of a transverter with= my > transceiver=92s transverter output, but I=92m open and others in our gro= up may > want to try other approaches. > > > > 73, > > > > Jim, VE1JF > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df12.mx.aol.com (rly-df12.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.25]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF062-5994affe6a1100; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:31:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF128-5994affe6a1100; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:31:47 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9dJq-00069B-Je for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:30:58 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9dJq-000691-4n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:30:58 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9dJn-0007EJ-Lb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:30:58 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so4873415bwz.4 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:30:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wRYNWtAStUP+6ZS1PMSdeQ10ovYatpqAqpcCtePyGnU=; b=MD3cebrgxogYnvXAaQL/4VeXHWWp9n0vjZS3ZmLGYQS9r3DhU92355erODokLz5Jx0 OII+nA3SVwInrZJa3sJv5HKYVAgE85yAPdnzO2w+iptgcyvmhpYzJTV06XtUZ+XTjGiF X1leQUK/BaiC7ARA/TCNE65p1aJzJwfxyiQXY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=e4ep2yWPFTztz6PQaL5dLqvfz1NJE6quREZrbNtNIre2l9L3FKF/XCGEuW2JlYPzF1 nTYKyNsuMrRRYBI8XWLQTkuzj75xqhb9kJBFOLVKyx9KMLyHJYChWYJknZc5uh6bfLD2 6eg4sdMfE3500TAvzRP80sQhYZKS+RJ5ArIYM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.162.129 with SMTP id l1mr636118hbd.206.1258284649945; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:30:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9afca2640911150318w25d40bb9w7c407d9d71e9097d@mail.gmail.com> References: <9afca2640911150318w25d40bb9w7c407d9d71e9097d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:30:49 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz CW - calling CQ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363b9bf6961cd004786739b5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m203.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0016363b9bf6961cd004786739b5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It'll never catch on. Mild source coding, inefficient error correction, incoherent demodulator and an inability to reduce receiver bandwidth anything below 30Hz :-{ Andy www.g4jnt.com this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny state 2009/11/15 Roger Lapthorn > If anyone's about, I am trying to use a new fangled digital mode (it's > called CW) on 500kHz. Calling CQ around 501.7 and looking for any calls. > > Have heard M0JXM calling CQ but he did not hear me. > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > --0016363b9bf6961cd004786739b5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It'll never catch on.=A0
Mild source coding, inefficient error correction, incoherent demodula= tor and an=A0inability=A0to reduce=A0receiver bandwidth=A0anything below= =A030Hz :-{

Andy
www.g4jnt.= com

this email has been scanned for political correctness by th= e nanny state


2009/11/15 Roger Lapthorn <= ;rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>= ;
If anyone's about, I am tr= ying to use a new fangled digital mode (it's called CW) on 500kHz. Cal= ling CQ around 501.7 and looking for any calls.

Have heard M0JXM calling CQ but he did not hear me.

73s
Roge= r G3XBM

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G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088

--0016363b9bf6961cd004786739b5-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME082-9ac4aff42ee399; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:53:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME038-9ac4aff42ee399; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:53:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9SPw-0002Lu-0Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:52:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9SPv-0002Ll-JZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:52:31 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.152]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9SPu-0000FJ-U5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:52:31 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3422.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8F4451C00082 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:52:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3422.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7FEC41C00083 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:52:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.89.43]) by mwinf3422.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 345401C00082 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:52:25 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091114235225214.345401C00082@mwinf3422.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:52:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: Re: LF: Who / where is OR2ELN ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01CA6585.83ABCA90" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01CA6585.83ABCA90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is the list of tx stations as of 2350 14/11/09 MF 03 .. looks= to be a little wet ? G4JNT 0.503852=20 G0NBD 0.503900=20 G3XBM 0.503904=20 OR2ELN 0.503908=20 G4WGT 0.503914=20 W3HH 0.503916=20 =20 From: Graham=20 Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 11:48 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Who / where is OR2ELN ?? 2009-11-14 23:14 OR2ELN 0.503908 -33 0 MF03 501 = G0NBD IO83 11740 326 =20 Just decoded ? tnx - G=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01CA6585.83ABCA90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This is the list of tx stations as of= 2350 =20 14/11/09    MF 03 .. looks to  be a little = wet=20 ?
 
<= /TR>
G4JNT 0.503852
G0NBD 0.503900
G3XBM 0.503904
OR2ELN 0.503908
G4WGT 0.503914
W3HH 0.503916
 
 
 

From: Graham
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 11:48 PM
Subject: LF: Who / where is OR2ELN ??

 2009-11-14 23:14   OR2ELN   0.503908   -33   0   MF03   501   G0NBD   IO83   11740   326 
 
Just  decoded ?
 
tnx - G
 




------=_NextPart_000_0016_01CA6585.83ABCA90-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da06.mx.aol.com (rly-da06.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.80]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA054-a784af6b2c9d0; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:00:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA068-a784af6b2c9d0; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:00:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N76QR-0005m1-NJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:59:19 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N76QR-0005ls-A5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:59:19 +0000 Received: from ey-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.78.148]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N76PS-0008FH-4j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:58:19 +0000 Received: by ey-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 3so535311eyh.16 for ; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:59:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Y/4qbvjB/YF1Zug8aTVewVAS2hUUHgkuVwvBUVSSSmo=; b=NVvdSXz9+oXsVR4tnyhy12aqkK2Dhd+19aQ8EjqWo2M0TQIKwrsOBaim12DzHNvlYQ N/G6rL1ru6yXc45vRwrjeFTJ4YWJoYJI8GFvjZBriWUtbept9OxFiuHl2SemhL8pp1GD qe259OF/06wJrjFB2Cz37QXeJ+WklJBLVwgu0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=MQXoHQAALS5u9e4FUTb5Zh+YKG5hKSuGeDjy1/MIhtRtrNBcBZ6I3f9pdz/aHU05d9 sGqJePWao2ohre2GpUud1JRnJKODy0eG1cLt4HBEx3hw8rUEN4924B0xnRKhHkqzmOwW TscFRWFLGzYiINW8QD/Cb+vGdvAqovBuZhiwk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.85.14 with SMTP id t14mr2075166wee.222.1257681556416; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:59:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:59:16 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: cb39ddd760640fdc Message-ID: From: John Gould To: "Rsgb_Lf_Group@Blacksheep. Org" X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: New allocations for Norwegian radio Amateurs Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d64109692a240477dace27 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m227.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0016e6d64109692a240477dace27 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 As of November 6th 2009 a number of additions to amateur radio licensing regulations in Norway went into force. In addition to allocations at 5 and 70MHz access to 493 - 510 kHz on secondary basis, 100 W, A1A (CW) only was authorised. Full details (for those who can understand Norwegian - which I can't do) is at http://www.lovdata.no/ltavd1/filer/sf-20091105-1340.html 73 John, G3WKL --0016e6d64109692a240477dace27 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
As of November 6th 2009 a number of= additions to amateur=20 radio licensing regulations in Norway went into force.=A0 In addition to= allocations at 5 and 70MHz access to 493 - 510 kHz on secondary basis, 10= 0 W, A1A (CW)=20 only was authorised.

Full details (for those who can understand Nor= wegian - which I can't do) is at

http://www.lovda= ta.no/ltavd1/filer/sf-20091105-1340.html

73 John, G3WKL


--0016e6d64109692a240477dace27-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (rly-mf03.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.173]) by air-mf09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF091-9504af69c32319; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:24:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF036-9504af69c32319; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:23:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N74v8-0004su-M8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:22:54 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N74v8-0004sl-7J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:22:54 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N74v6-0003hK-2g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:22:53 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98A9851C002 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:22:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED7BF3862 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:22:42 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id 43A9618056; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:22:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from 12.168-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (12.168-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.240.168.12]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:22:42 +0100 Message-ID: <20091108112242.uuglokktzi8kw0oc@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:22:42 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <9afca2640910310528p4f07557aifdc0557a68bfeff8@mail.gmail.com> <004501ca5a35$30eff840$0900a8c0@lark> <4F89D5F0D43E42F9B344F909CACE0ECD@JimPC> In-Reply-To: <4F89D5F0D43E42F9B344F909CACE0ECD@JimPC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.240.168.12 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz attenuation graphs? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear Alan, Jim, over the 420km G4JNT-OR7T path there is a +/-20dB day/night difference 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting James Moritz : > Dear Alan, LF Group, > > G3NYK wrote: >> Generally at LF the skywave starts to equal or exceed the >> groundwave strength at ranges exceeding 700km. It may be a little less >> that >> that at 500k. > > ...And yet, when I watch the signal level of G4JNT's WSPR beacon at night, I > see short duration deep fades of 20 - 30 dB quite often, and sometimes > enhancements over the daytime level of several dB also. During the day, the > signal level shows very little variation. So even at a distance of about > 120km, it would seem the ground wave an sky wave strengths must be > comparable, in order to produce the fades. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df04.mx.aol.com (rly-df04.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.17]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF014-5424b00501366; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:01:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF041-5424b00501366; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:01:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9kL6-0000EX-QH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:00:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9kL6-0000EO-Bh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:00:44 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f211.google.com ([209.85.220.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9kL5-0002SZ-LA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:00:44 +0000 Received: by fxm3 with SMTP id 3so440070fxm.4 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:00:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=y7QB5wgK1Zu6oADN5pZnbID8lYxCqzwRP1pxUT6dIRs=; b=SpLASinMMovXWpW7U+YnTBwd5n447yPpSi+halUkh6Ai90PtZGpNP1F/gwXU2pmiGD WfeE1u6rUM9gFNpb1pkRz2WLSHrE17cezVoem4q+54RQOP60ShhJuEpL+V7pmbE+L8vg 8h56Byi6/eWlL63U8xAtNtEhStoRIJk+DbpBo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=w3ei7NhTtm7NdOdo3lG6cfsIeNKCtJ3I4WY0BQ2E52hkRWSG8yDbPvY94oH80KbyDZ kwXFG/SNHICMFdxa4aCLTXEBDB268EAw8oDIFLYQigi8Hhb/p5L2qIImKHNd/hgUHTWh tCLl+Yn+Xh6ApVCutQjUO6WgB8qMVoTZZSXTE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.156.14 with SMTP id k14mr683608hbc.181.1258311637249; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:00:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B004A56.5050907@usa.net> References: <4B004A56.5050907@usa.net> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:00:37 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Weak Signals - was 500kHz CW - calling CQ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f855e627af1904786d8253 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d240.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001485f855e627af1904786d8253 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 No, no one objected to the CW comments :-) The names are irrelevant on the slide, but I forgot to remove them. If running the .PPT file in *presentation mode only*, click on the loudspeaker symbol which plays the sounds which are embedded within the PPT file. I * think* they can also be played by double clicking the loudspeaker while in edit mode. Was rather surprised to find that all versions of powerpoint supported embedded sounds If viewing the .PDF, the sounds are availalble in the companion .ZIP file Andy www.g4jnt.com this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny state 2009/11/15 Alberto di Bene > Andy Talbot wrote: > > *This presentation was aimed at Microwave operators, but has plenty of > relevance to LF* > * * > *http://g4jnt.com/MartleSham.htm > Includes soundclips of CW buried in noise with accurately defined S/N > ratios* > > Andy > > Very nice presentation Andy, > > there were any grumpy and disgruntled OMs in the audience objecting to > your dismissal > of CW as an effective weak-signal mode ? :-) > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > > P.S. All the audio link in your presentation are broken as they all refer > to WAV files on you C: > disk, which of course is not accessible when playing the presentation. > > > > > --001485f855e627af1904786d8253 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
No, no one objected to the CW comments :-)
=A0
The names are irrelevant on the slide, but I forgot to remove them.= =A0 If running the .PPT file in presentation mode only, click on= the loudspeaker symbol which plays the sounds which are embedded within= the PPT file.=A0 I think they can also be played by double click= ing the loudspeaker while in edit mode.=A0=A0 Was rather surprised to find= that all versions of powerpoint supported embedded sounds
=A0
If viewing the .PDF, the sounds are availalble in the companion .ZIP= file
=A0

Andy
www.g4jnt.= com

this email has been scanned for political correctness by th= e nanny state


2009/11/15 Alberto di Bene &l= t;dibene@usa.net>
Andy Talbot wrote:=20
This presentation was aimed at Microwave operators, but has plenty= of relevance to LF
=A0
http= ://g4jnt.com/MartleSham.htm
Includes=A0soundclips of= CW buried in noise=A0with accurately defined S/N ratios

Andy
Very nice presentation Andy,
=
=A0 there were any grumpy and disgruntled OMs in the audience objectin= g to your dismissal
of CW=A0 as an effective weak-signal mode ?=A0=A0= =A0=A0 :-)

73=A0 Alberto=A0 I2PHD

P.S. All the audio link in your presenta= tion are broken as they all refer to WAV files on you C:
disk, which of= course is not accessible when playing the presentation.




--001485f855e627af1904786d8253-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc08.mx.aol.com (rly-mc08.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.92]) by air-mc08.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMC082-d8a4b0bb6bf29c; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 05:34:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC082-d8a4b0bb6bf29c; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 05:34:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCsiL-0004bi-QN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:33:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCsiL-0004bZ-Df for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:33:41 +0000 Received: from smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com ([195.200.78.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCsiK-0000NR-Ov for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:33:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 6742 invoked by uid 507); 24 Nov 2009 11:33:23 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO JR) (john.rabson@numeo.fr@217.67.155.178) by smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com with SMTP; 24 Nov 2009 11:33:23 +0100 Message-ID: <200911241133250693.29432C8B@smtp2.numeo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:33:25 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Soft rock and email problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Many thanks to those who replied to my request for assistance with the SMD= kit. M0FMT has kindly offered to help. Mal: thank you for offering a kit suitable for conversion to 500 kHz, but= my main interest is 136. Even though I am in the heart of rural Burgundy= , I seem to be plagued by a high noise level at the bottom end of medium= wave. I wish I hadn't given away my B41. My e-mail system has been giving problems over the past week or so. Has= anyone posted anything here, or sent me anything direct which needs a rep= ly from me, please? 73 John F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME062-9a94b0837392c4; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:54:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME035-9a94b0837392c4; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:53:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBv4i-0008EA-Q4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:52:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBv4i-0008E1-BB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:52:48 +0000 Received: from out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.242]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBv4h-0001JQ-Pw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:52:48 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuIEAGPFB0tcGmCC/2dsb2JhbACCJCyGS4RtBsVxhDwE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,264,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="255324090" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.26.96.130]) by out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 21 Nov 2009 18:52:42 +0000 Message-ID: <007c01ca6adb$cd7ace40$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:52:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: qsy LF Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0079_01CA6ADB.CD35AEF0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0079_01CA6ADB.CD35AEF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I notice a drift back to LF/137 by some 500 ops and in fact back to 16= 0m also g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0079_01CA6ADB.CD35AEF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I notice a drift back to LF/137 by so= me 500 ops and=20 in fact back to 160m also
g3kev
 
------=_NextPart_000_0079_01CA6ADB.CD35AEF0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md08.mx.aol.com (rly-md08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.146]) by air-md02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD023-91d4afad8d113a; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:32:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD085-91d4afad8d113a; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:31:31 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8F9e-0002vL-1H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:30:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8F9d-0002vC-7s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:30:41 +0000 Received: from smtp825.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.235]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8F8u-0006cl-QO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:29:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 70302 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2009 15:30:33 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=34efLcgDRs1wuRZE0iiR/18n4L3fgEGoU5Tpj9P5nRAfe0+Ogpq0cvkleCP60qLVapjzTVe0saFvqhaRlRWR21HJIGCPMuL13GaMMWPfXagki7bErFePvA2ACmqm8TmcTYFDPEL6CJi2EFDeJPQLOG9KAM4JicGO+uR2E/qtUtA= ; Received: from unknown (HELO DennisPC) (dennis.easterling@86.142.159.245 with login) by smtp825.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Nov 2009 15:30:32 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: H_MJu2qswBDkdHeCAZfwexko6VNOiMP5URzYEvz3WrE5v1grQm6fnvJecjM9 X-YMail-OSG: 4qorhkQVM1nAJSvKNOZrw5DXX.qw1O_D19FFstg4XxGVXQl7ToKmXCWi1TMCAlwoq1X2R4NtTo2APP.oXMDBRXdvPEEn85OBdEC6RbWErMhGVFk7G9E9rNQJzMJnVxHz9G6ExVG.u4asjYxYqNfbINr7sejlliFz8DSx8DCwPd.Ex8IG21v3n1mDLRkHPLqHuQDfh8te1yDntothy9KMdos1IZA9mwfF66TDayPTVFOwLfuqNvWPzuwGqpeE.cIicRrD5vgsb0edhheZ2mkrGRcJJT_zr11XKPg- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "DENNIS EASTERLING" To: References: <112811.74996.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001b01ca6225$fcddd970$0617aac0@jimdesk> <003801ca6235$3f117d60$0617aac0@jimdesk> In-Reply-To: <003801ca6235$3f117d60$0617aac0@jimdesk> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:30:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01CA62E3.E5D83310" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING, LINES_OF_YELLING_2,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01CA62E3.E5D83310 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jim Chris' suggestion is a good one, sorry that I picked on you, only beca= use you'r the nearest. 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: James Cowburn=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 6:40 PM Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Hi Dennis =20 Not offended at all, more alarmed and disappointed that I have been= causing you problems and grief. As the "new boy to the band" I did no= t realize I was operating on top of your frequency. =20 =20 Many apologies to you, Chris (and probably Pete too) for my QRM. If= you can let me know the sorts of times that you want to work the band= then I'll endeavour to keep in Rx only mode or QRT during those times= . Chris did suggest that if I could avoid "WSPRing" on Saturday and= Sunday mornings when a lot of CW QSOs are underway then that would he= lp. If there are any evening segments or weekday slots that I could al= so avoid then do let me know and hopefully we can find a good soluti= on. =20 I certainly don't want to be a "Johnny come lately" and ruin the ban= d for all the other users =20 =20 =20 With best regards =20 =20 Jim =20 =20 Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group= @blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of DENNIS EASTERLING Sent: 10 November 2009 17:22 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO =20 Hi Jim =20 I was speaking figuratively as you are so near and on my xtl frequen= cy. My comment was directed at Chris' statment in email subject1000= QSOs, who also suffers and others who have complained about beacons= in general. In fact the band is often dead for hours on end and it= is nice to find any signal, beacon or QSO, especially when testing.= My point is that is there should be room for both beacons and QSOs,= then follows a suggestion that LFrs may like to come to some agreeme= nt about reserving a section for each mode. =20 Hoping I did not offend, 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: James Cowburn=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 4:51 PM Subject: LF: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO =20 Hi Dennis =20 I did not realize I was causing you QRM. A quick e-mail would hav= e alerted me to it, rather than me being a "pain". I'm happy to work= out a compromise where we operate at separate times or if you suggest= a different frequency for me to work on. Just drop me a line with you= r ideas on this. =20 With best regards =20 =20 Jim =20 =20 Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS ----------------------------------------------------------------------= ------ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_gro= up@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of DENNIS EASTERLING Sent: 10 November 2009 16:13 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO =20 Congratulations Chris. =20 Most wspr stations seem to congregate at the top end of the band= and are not too much trouble. Jim G7NKS is the biggest pain as he= sits on my xtl frequency and is so close. Maybe a compromise would= be for people using beacons to keep to one segment of the band (hopef= ully not 502.2 kHz -hee) =20 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Chris Osborn=20 To: LF Group=20 Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 6:03 PM Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO =20 LF It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using= 600m. This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which wer= e 600m / 80m. Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 an= d EI0CF - No. 998. QSO break-down according to mode: 928 CW, 34 RTTY and 5= QRSS 600m STATIONS My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations= and many of these go back to the start of the UK 600m allocation in= March 2007. Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (exclu= ding beacons). Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never hea= rd of again: G3KZU, G3YHV . . . Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT: G3= UNT, G3VTT, G4GDR. . . MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work th= e same stations many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of= my total contacts. My most frequently worked stations are: GW3UEP - 120 G3KEV - 102 M0FMT - 90 G3ZWH - 80 = (alas now SK) G3DXZ - 67 G4GDR - 60 EI0CF/ GI4DPE - 51 M0J= XM - 48 G3UNT - 45 G3VTT - 38 CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy= a cross-band QSO: DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . . and our few EU MF friends are still active: ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . . WSPR ON 600m I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm fo= r the WSPR mode was never achieved for hand sent Morse (CW), which af= ter all is the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF= marine band. If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger sta= tions operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m ban= d then I guess it may be time for me to QSY. 73 Chris G3XIZ =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01CA62E3.E5D83310 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Jim
Chris' suggestion is a good one, sorr= y that I=20 picked on you, only because you'r the nearest.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 10,= 2009 6:40=20 PM
Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: Re:= G3XIZ - 1000=20 th MF QSO

Hi=20 Dennis

&= nbsp;

Not of= fended at all,=20 more alarmed and disappointed that I have been causing you problems= and grief.=20 As the =93new boy to the band=94 I did not realize I was operating= on top of your=20 frequency.  

&= nbsp;

Many= apologies to=20 you, Chris (and probably Pete too) for my QRM.  If you can let= me know=20 the sorts of times that you want to work the band then I=92ll endeav= our to keep=20 in Rx only mode or QRT during those times.   Chris did sug= gest that=20 if I could avoid =93WSPRing=94 on Saturday and Sunday mornings when= a lot of CW=20 QSOs are underway then that would help. If there are any evening seg= ments or=20 weekday slots that I could also avoid then do  let me know and= =20  hopefully we can find a good solution.

&= nbsp;

I cert= ainly don=92t=20 want to be a =93Johnny come lately=94 and ruin the band for all the= other=20 users

&= nbsp;

&= nbsp;

&= nbsp;

With= best=20 regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

Dr. Ja= mes Cowburn=20 G7NKS 

<= FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>

From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshe= ep.org] On= Behalf Of DENNIS=20 EASTERLING
Sent:= 10 November=20 2009 17:22
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject:<= /B> LF: Re: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th=20 MF QSO

 

Hi=20 Jim

 

I was speaking figuratively as yo= u=20 are so near and on my xtl frequency.   My comment&nbs= p;was=20 directed at Chris' statment in email subject1000 QSOs, who also= suffers=20 and others who have complained about beacons in general.  = In fact=20 the band is often dead for hours on end and it is nice to find any= signal,=20 beacon or QSO, especially when testing.  My point is that  = ;is there=20 should be room for both beacons and QSOs,  then= follows a=20 suggestion that LFrs may like to come to some agreement ab= out=20 reserving a section for each mode.

 

Hoping I did not offend, 73 Denni= s=20 M0JXM

----- Original Message -----= =20

Sent:=20 Tuesday, November 10, 2009 4:51 PM

Subject= : LF: RE:=20 Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO

 

Hi= =20 Dennis

 

I= did not realize I=20 was causing you QRM.  A quick e-mail would have alerted me to= it,=20 rather than me being a =93pain=94.   I=92m happy to work= out a=20 compromise where we operate at separate times or if you suggest a= different=20 frequency for me to work on. Just drop me a line with your ideas= on=20 this.

 

Wit= h best=20 regards

 

 

Jim=

 

 

Dr.= James Cowburn=20 G7NKS

Fro= m:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o= rg=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org] Sent: 10=20 November 2009 16:13
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF=20 QSO

 

Congratulations=20 Chris.

 

Most wspr stations seem to=20 congregate at the top end of the band and are not too much=20 trouble.    Jim G7NKS is the biggest pain as he sit= s on my=20 xtl frequency and is so close.   Maybe a compromise woul= d be for=20 people using beacons to keep to one segment of the band (hopefully= not 502.2=20 kHz -hee)

 

73 Dennis=20 M0JXM

----- Original Message= -----=20

From: Chris Osborn=20

T= o: = LF Group=20

S= ent:=20 Sunday, November 08, 2009 6:03 PM

S= ubject: LF:=20 G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO

 

L= F

It=20 was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600= m.
This=20 includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 600= m /=20 80m.

Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU= - No. 999=20 and EI0CF - No. 998.

QSO break-down according to mode:=20     928 CW,  34 RTTY  and  = 5=20 QRSS

600m STATIONS

My personal 600m (EU) sp= readsheet=20 lists a total of 59<= /B> stations=20 and many of these go back to the start of the UK  600m allo= cation in=20 March 2007.
Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the pa= st month=20 (excluding beacons).
Many stations on my list came up only br= iefly and=20 were never heard of again:  G3KZU, G3YHV . . .
Others we= re once=20 very active but have subsequently gone QRT:  G3UNT, G3VTT,= G4GDR. .=20 .

MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED

With so few active= operators=20 it is obvious that one will work the same stations many times an= d the top=20 10 stations account for 70% of my total contacts.
My most fre= quently=20 worked stations are:

GW3UEP - 120    = G3KEV -=20 102      M0FMT - 90   &n= bsp;=20 G3ZWH  -  80  (alas now SK)
G3DXZ  &= nbsp;=20 -   67     G4GDR -  =20 60      EI0CF/ GI4DPE  - =20 51   M0JXM - 48
G3UNT    - &nbs= p;=20 45     G3VTT  -  =20 38

CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS

There are a= few=20 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a cross-band=20 QSO:
DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . .

= and our=20 few EU MF friends are still active:
ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ.= .=20 .

WSPR ON 600m

I personally find it sad tha= t the=20 present level of enthusiasm for the WSPR mode was never achieved= for =20 hand sent Morse (CW), which after all is the mode which I call= to mind=20 when thinking of the old MF marine band.
If the WSPR 'enthusi= asm' phase=20 lasts, with more and stronger stations operating 24/7 in the nar= row 3 kHz=20 segment which is the 600m band then I guess it may be time for= me to=20 QSY.

73 Chris=20 G3XIZ





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------=_NextPart_000_0011_01CA62E3.E5D83310-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de11.mx.aol.com (rly-de11.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.147]) by air-de03.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDE032-5164b1198aa125; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:40:06 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE117-5164b1198aa125; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:39:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEV04-0005Ur-1U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:38:40 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEV03-0005Ui-BP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:38:39 +0000 Received: from imr-ma02.mx.aol.com ([64.12.206.40]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEV02-0001Ra-8X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:38:39 +0000 Received: from imo-da02.mx.aol.com (imo-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.200]) by imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nASLcVfd023691 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:38:31 -0500 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-da02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id l.c86.61b1b6c3 (43906) for ; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:38:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from White (e179167105.adsl.alicedsl.de [85.179.167.105]) by cia-dc07.mx.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILCIADC073-ab824b119851232; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:38:26 -0500 Message-ID: <42720A798A384ADDA93A8954B4299F9B@White> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AA67@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 22:38:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: MarkusVester@aol.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0019_01CA707B.819BF350" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01CA707B.819BF350 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good evening Stefan, you are producing an excellent signal here in Nuernberg! The fieldstre= ngth was up to about 120 uV/m, with some variation (probably caused by= kite movement). Have fun, and best of luck Markus, DF6NM in JN59NK=20 From: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20 Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 11:36 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz Dear Lowfers,=20 This is my first mail to the reflector and so i want to say hello to= all :-) It=B4s nice to be able to participate now here although my ac= tivity will stay on the band mostly ;-) If there will be no weather problems this evening I will agn be qrv on= 137 in CW (abt 136,8) and/or QRSS3.=20 Since abt 3 weeks I am qrv again. Since I live in a city I have no pos= sibilities to be on LF, even not in RXing (QRM)... Therefore and cause= I like to be in the nature I am now qrv in /p. I use a kite antenna,= 100m up (!). This should have a radiation resistance of 0,83 Ohms. My= overall resistance is abt 30...55 Ohms, depending on the ground a ach= ieve. So you can imagine abt the ERP. I have a 1KW class E PA that I= use with limited power. But The ERP easily reaches the 1W ERP limit,= as one can imagine.. My RX is still poor but I am working on a receiving loop. Now, I use= the TX ant for receiving that causes some problems ;-) It would be nice to get some QSOs or even RX-RPRTs tonight. Until now= I got 2 QSOs in each activity ;-) Best regards,=20 Stefan / DK7FC ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01CA707B.819BF350 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Good evening Stefan,
 
you are producing an excellent= signal=20 here in Nuernberg! The fieldstrength was up to about 120 uV/m, wi= th some=20 variation (probably caused by kite movement).
 
Have fun, and best of luck
 
Markus,
DF6NM in JN59NK 
 
 
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 11:36 AM
Subject: LF: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz
=
Dear Lowfers,=20
This is my first mail to the reflector and so i want to say hello= to all :-)=20 It=B4s nice to be able to participate now here although my activity wi= ll stay on=20 the band mostly ;-)
If there will be no weather problems this eveni= ng I will=20 agn be qrv on 137 in CW (abt 136,8) and/or QRSS3.
Since abt 3 week= s I am qrv=20 again. Since I live in a city I have no possibilities to be on LF, eve= n not in=20 RXing (QRM)... Therefore and cause I like to be in the nature I am now= qrv in=20 /p. I use a kite antenna, 100m up (!). This should have a radiation re= sistance=20 of 0,83 Ohms. My overall resistance is abt 30...55 Ohms, depending on= the ground=20 a achieve. So you can imagine abt the ERP. I have a 1KW class E PA tha= t I use=20 with limited power. But The ERP easily reaches the 1W ERP limit, as on= e can=20 imagine..
My RX is still poor but I am working on a receiving loop.= Now, I=20 use the TX ant for receiving that causes some problems ;-)
It would= be nice=20 to get some QSOs or even RX-RPRTs tonight. Until now I got 2 QSOs in= each=20 activity ;-)
Best regards,
Stefan / DK7FC

------=_NextPart_000_0019_01CA707B.819BF350-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de06.mx.aol.com (rly-de06.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.142]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE022-4e54af89d989d; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:54:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE068-4e54af89d989d; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:54:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7d6r-00055h-DQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:53:17 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7d6q-00055Y-PR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:53:16 +0000 Received: from smtp823.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.233]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7d6n-0006SN-GL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:53:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 90075 invoked from network); 9 Nov 2009 22:53:07 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=y0vGXX5zgxLTGpm/lluH+8erqaSUdZGRe5aZKYoSHd2YNcjBsNXQS5vqDWM1ezlTpp7X7GmHInozdlsvcVb+z+K8Ik1Ec82rcWr2BcOlIJIjtTuNkZL9j8a3r97L8CLu67zW9pfuVicb4m8GRl9YlmJu/CafVZVZxpXdw6ZKI8s= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@81.131.65.34 with login) by smtp823.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Nov 2009 22:53:06 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: KHdpK2OswBBXlm4uxknbEiS4uYdJoGknHN90u4K8__lTafnafZg- X-YMail-OSG: yRA2VEUVM1mP1Y.RH8OEy5BkZ_hUvjEQEfQXWTXSjQ5L2ZYo1f6SeiLeWxvPYXXx5j4XKu0zmjJz4d6DgzKySi_29YDtNa6RhkQEtHIjPPuqG7FcDSQuT0GWXxxjhguPlA6afPZbOMLLkaX08CzJPSOkayQi0KQLr3SdZxP9UNdMSSepIehl2oNttLzY3Lw_3kaJHAO9pDIH8yUMIyrX.Pz.RwxNLb7i1vbyYCmYWJEixUMERp_VRZvUK_kUK0BhKG9YYKx6ae_eJccaSqjhpeF1FSdy6FFvruPRWWta5RapAiVXBVXXWPZNIXp8EEp.RzAKPDrLr4OfEvwee7aHHqpUUic- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <000601ca618f$6917b760$0900a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <200911091000250405.1609D0BF@smtp2.numeo.fr> <000001ca6186$436317c0$0900a8c0@lark> <57a24ca70911091401t3e1cdfdcxa72724a21abf1cd5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:37:37 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Fwd: The death of Loran -again? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Ah Thanks Warren That will set the mobile phone networks busy implementing location system as a backup I guess....that wont need federal funds.......and they can charge for it ....wait a minute whilst I bolster my share holdings in a few phone companies :-)) then how do we disable the ground station.. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Ziegler" To: Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 10:01 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Fwd: The death of Loran -again? > Alan, > > See: > http://www.gpsworld.com/gnss-system/news/administration-ax-falls-pnt-backup- loran-c-9087 > > and > http://pnt.gov/policy/legislation/bills.shtml#loran > > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ > WD2XSH/23 > WE2XEB/2 > WE2XGR/1 > > > > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Alan Melia wrote: > > Hi John, that URL you copied from Rob doesnt work for me. There is othing on > > the Megapulse site of the USCG sire about it closing, the budget is not cut > > it is reduced and I guess USCG have to decide how best to spend it. I dont > > expect it to affect the French who being,.... well, French ?..... will > > continue to go their own way!! > > > > Do you have 1pps GPS capability?? eke "Clicklock" as there is an interesting > > project that may come up. Only resures a sound card and an AM receiver and a > > GPS 1pps > > > > Best Wishes to you and Rosie > > Alan G3NYK > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John RABSON" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 9:00 AM > > Subject: LF: Fwd: The death of Loran -again? > > > > > >> > >> Received from Rob Gill : > >> > >> > > >> >Possibly more likely this time? > >> > > >> >Questex link: > >> >http://www.gpsworld.com/node/9087Loran > >> > > >> >Rob > >> > >> F5VLF > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (rly-dd08.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.155]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD013-b904b092a782c7; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:11:44 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD082-b904b092a782c7; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:11:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCBGo-0002S5-Q4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:10:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCBGo-0002Rw-4E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:10:22 +0000 Received: from smtp820.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.249]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCBGl-0003qU-UY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:10:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 74572 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2009 12:10:14 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Importance:In-Reply-To; b=mnzZ5CYUiG80ODhVDPhOfubl9Ho5whdj+SiuXuOUmEGQuOL8dfPdocEKz7pR4qpI1fk1fbP2AUPvqJTubS7ni/PB0aGgj0Dm1/2xZ4K14pzJ8OtIyRwiTj7g2Ec1DBPnzvks+Jtn81D8I/Q9Pjmwe/ChKOdl2xMdy7sVZlI3PJM= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@86.134.202.83 with login) by smtp820.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Nov 2009 12:10:14 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: JSvqNSWswBBXc9Mk_Vd71RtGz2bViJtuZMADdmi78eLqBj_R7.fL X-YMail-OSG: u2G_O6MVM1kq9d6LegKCnXGE35ITJnoeBZ0SWLCvJ_4bJc..gzl_.tL5GTRsgKVOv5ZJBtERDCDOHze3cS7Q9Kwb199OIOrw6ImL0s0PfL40DFI2IjJ1K4EyP_u0y29rxdwX9F3.oxWGjDjJwqs.mnaZ7JdiOZQLTACWytCL6ZpSA5A_y_Svo3yXUcOyKQ_io.rvkOSq8APEiTZ6kXbUaA0bDXtgifaMtyRm2nQ2jrntikfoXgWEDloQWPUmuVCsnFhHaY1PumR8bkLvKORswBlJTfsVOkJhdsCMaNVkgwCzZegfdtW2amzWwcyQ8ySmNF49xiFWilSwTlrFiFXd2J9tSo0pIcxROrU8sVc4zqC1rKnuL9lfxvYkeQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:10:45 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: [500 khz] M0JXM & G3XIZ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01CA6B6C.D1FD9F60" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_40_50, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01CA6B6C.D1FD9F60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Dennis and Chris. I checked your relative signal strengths during your QSO on 500 kHz this morning, using the Wandel & Golterman SPM-30. M0JXM was averaging -74 dBm, and G3XIZ was averaging -62 dBm, i.e. 12 dB stronger. If you know how much RF power you were each using, you can deduce your relative antenna efficiencies. Hope this is useful. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: 21 November 2009 11:38 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500 khz] M0JXM... Hi, Dennis. Your signals are RST 579 here this morning. I can also hear G3DXZ at 349/QSB, but he's sending too fast for reliable copy at this end. My antenna is a 20m long double wire "tee" at 5m, and the RX is a W&G SPM-30 with a tuned J310 pre-amp. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, s.e. England -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of DENNIS EASTERLING Sent: 18 November 2009 17:16 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Lost QSO Hello Mal Sorry if I left you in the lurch 16.5 today, after giving you a report 599 something happened and a single frequency signal came up on top of you and slowly drifted down frequency, perhaps someone tuning? Better luck next time. 73 Dennis M0JXM ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01CA6B6C.D1FD9F60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,=20 Dennis and Chris.
 
I=20 checked your relative signal strengths during your QSO on 500 kHz this= morning,=20 using the Wandel & Golterman SPM-30. M0JXM was averaging -74 dBm,= and G3XIZ=20 was averaging -62 dBm, i.e. 12 dB stronger. If you know how much RF po= wer you=20 were each using, you can deduce your relative antenna=20 efficiencies.
 
Hope=20 this is useful.
 
73,=20 Dave G3WCB IO91RM
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dave= =20 G3WCB
Sent: 21 November 2009 11:38
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500 khz]=20 M0JXM...

Hi,=20 Dennis.
 
Your=20 signals are RST 579 here this morning. I can also hear G3DXZ at 349/= QSB, but=20 he's sending too fast for reliable copy at this end.=20
 
My antenna is a 20m long= =20 double wire "tee" at 5m, and the RX is a W&G SPM-30 with a tuned= J310=20 pre-amp. <= SPAN class=3D014572811-21112009>73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor,= s.e.=20 England
-----Original Message-----
From:= =20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of DEN= NIS=20 EASTERLING
Sent: 18 November 2009 17:16
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Lost=20 QSO

Hello Mal
 
Sorry if I left you in the lurch&= nbsp; 16.5=20 today, after giving you a report 599 something happened and a sing= le=20 frequency signal came up on top of you and slowly drifted dow= n=20 frequency, perhaps someone tuning?
 
Better luck next time.
 
73 Dennis=20 M0JXM
------=_NextPart_000_0000_01CA6B6C.D1FD9F60-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (rly-dc10.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.39]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC031-b4a4b0483b1208; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:31:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC106-b4a4b0483b1208; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:30:59 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAtyL-0005fs-Gl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:30:01 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAtyK-0005fe-TB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:30:00 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s37.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.48]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAtyI-00060N-Hu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:30:00 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W8 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s37.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:29:52 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [138.32.254.21] From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China To: Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:29:52 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <005001ca688a$9e8c97b0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> References: <005001ca688a$9e8c97b0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Nov 2009 23:29:52.0557 (UTC) FILETIME=[0758D5D0:01CA68A7] X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_007c5c93-4d44-4e03-b58c-b0339c14b565_" Subject: RE: LF: VX9MRC X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_007c5c93-4d44-4e03-b58c-b0339c14b565_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mal - taking a look at Eu and Americas pointers as viewed from China, I wa= snt overly impressed by long haul overnight (thats still your night) . Cer= tainly down from the previous nights I was listening to - nothing from you= on 508... =20 Cheers =20 Laurence Bohai Bay China OM89UA =20 From: g3kevmal@talktalk.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:06:30 +0000 Subject: LF: VX9MRC Now active on 508 khz qrs3 good signal for those in EU who want a QSO. De Mal/G3KEV =20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=3Dmyidea?ocid=3D= PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:112009=3D --_007c5c93-4d44-4e03-b58c-b0339c14b565_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mal - taking a look at Eu and Americas pointers as viewed from China, I wa= snt overly impressed by long haul overnight (thats still your night) . Cer= tainly down from the previous nights I was listening to - nothin= g from you on 508...
 
Cheers
 
Laurence
Bohai Bay China OM89UA
 
From: g3kevmal@talktalk.net
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date:= Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:06:30 +0000
Subject: LF: VX9MRC

Now active on 508 khz qrs3 good signal fo= r those in EU who want a QSO.
De Mal/G3KEV
 

Windows 7: I wanted simp= ler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. =3D --_007c5c93-4d44-4e03-b58c-b0339c14b565_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg11.mx.aol.com (rly-dg11.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.95]) by air-dg01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG012-6014aee263e15; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:22:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG112-6014aee263e15; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:22:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N4kfW-0003Mz-Jy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 00:21:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N4kfV-0003Mq-Hb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 00:21:09 +0000 Received: from mailout1.go2.pl ([193.17.41.11]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N4kdx-0003vm-Ma for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 00:19:35 +0000 Received: from mailout1.go2.pl (unknown [10.0.0.104]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFCD830005 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 01:21:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from unknown (unknown [10.0.0.142]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 01:21:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from n62.pro-internet.pl [193.189.116.62] by poczta.o2.pl with ESMTP id XldMxM; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 01:21:02 +0100 Message-ID: <007901ca5b52$5bbbca40$be52e00a@niurhaxf0xcqlj> From: "Marcin" To: References: <276313556.1257112269.46863176.15766@mcgi72.rambler.ru> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 01:16:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-O2-Trust: 2, 61 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: SM6BGP Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0076_01CA5B5A.10192CB0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01CA5B5A.10192CB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Gunnar, LF! SM6BGP copy taday normal CW 549. And good conditions on WSPR: 2254 -5 0.3 0.503926 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 2258 -8 0.6 0.503926 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 2258 -28 0.6 0.503960 0 M0BMU IO91 33 2302 -2 0.5 0.503926 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 2304 -23 0.5 0.503960 0 M0BMU IO91 33 2308 -2 0.3 0.503926 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 2312 -22 0.4 0.503960 0 M0BMU IO91 33 2314 -5 0.3 0.503926 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 2316 -21 0.6 0.503960 0 M0BMU IO91 33 2320 0 0.3 0.503926 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 2326 -3 0.3 0.503926 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 2330 3 0.3 0.503926 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 2330 -23 0.4 0.503960 0 M0BMU IO91 33 2336 2 0.3 0.503926 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 2336 -25 0.4 0.503960 0 M0BMU IO91 33 2342 2 0.3 0.503926 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 2344 -19 0.2 0.503960 0 M0BMU IO91 33 2348 -7 0.3 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 2352 -23 0.3 0.503960 0 M0BMU IO91 33 2356 0 0.3 0.503925 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 2356 -23 0.5 0.503960 0 M0BMU IO91 33 0000 -19 0.7 0.503960 0 M0BMU IO91 33 -- Vy 73! 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X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: UA0AET Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi LF! UA0AET on DF6NM and BY3A-KL1X grabbers 137778.6 dfcw120 Dmitry RA3YO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de02.mx.aol.com (rly-de02.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.138]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE054-4b84af608ef202; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:55:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE023-4b84af608ef202; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:55:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6v6f-0001iA-KT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:54:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6v6f-0001i1-5H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:54:09 +0000 Received: from fwx.uvtc.net ([195.22.25.2] helo=uvtcmail.se) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6v5d-0007LM-Dm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:53:06 +0000 thread-index: AcpgBZQaUPmvfqS/Q/qE2gPVc8FjEw== X-MEFilter-Version: 6.5.0 X-SPAM-FLAG:NO Received: from ([127.0.0.1]) with MailEnable ESMTP; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 23:53:59 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Gus" To: References: <2F1AB4DFB90B402ABA068A546B4AEDDE@radiorummet> <9afca2640911070817h546534e4q7a3a8be61d767981@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9afca2640911070817h546534e4q7a3a8be61d767981@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 00:53:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4325 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Importance: normal X-ME-Bayesian: 0.000000 X-CHK: uvtcmail.se X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 10 mW WSPR beacon. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0047_01CA600D.F4299E50" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_FONT_BIG, HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01CA600D.F4299E50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Roger,=20 thanks!=20 I'm trying to get a decode from you at any moment I am QRV on WSPR!=20 Despite my noisy environment, it certainly succeeds some evening / nig= ht!=20 73 de Gus SM6BHZ ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Roger Lapthorn=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 5:17 PM Subject: Re: LF: 10 mW WSPR beacon. Gus, Getting a report from AA1A is amazing - really well done Gus. WSPR= is remarkable with very low power signals.=20 As you may know, I have been using <1mW ERP for several weeks and ha= ve been heard by 27 stations in 5 countries with best DX 896kms. I now= believe my ERP is approaching 2mW. I am hopeful that you will hear= my tiny WSPR signal one night soon - maybe tonight overnight Gus? 73s Roger G3XBM 2009/11/7 Gus Dear LF group,=20 After running beacon WSPR night 6-7 November with only 10 mW ERP= (125 mW) TX power on 500 kHz it gives me great surprise, that a very= long range can be achieved with extremely small power!=20 Dave AA1A got a decoding where the distance between us is 5756 km. Also a number of EU stn=92s reported decodes. On previous occasions, with a power of 1 W ERP is Laurence KL1X/BY= 3A reported a number of decoding where the distance between us is 7284= km.=20 I would also like to thank the other reporting from the night's 10= mW broadcasts, and note that WSPR is a fashion which is particularly= suitable for very low power!=20 73 de Gus SM6BHZ=20 www.sm6bhz.com --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01CA600D.F4299E50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Roger,
thanks!
I'm trying to get a decode from you at any moment I am QRV on WSP= R!=20
Despite my noisy environment, it certainly succeeds some even= ing /=20 night!

73 de Gus SM6BHZ
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 07,= 2009 5:17=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: 10 mW WSPR= beacon.

Gus,

Getting a report from AA1A is amazing -= really well=20 done Gus.  WSPR is remarkable with very low power signals.
=
As you=20 may know, I have been using <1mW ERP for several weeks and have= been heard=20 by 27 stations in 5 countries with best DX 896kms. I now believe my= ERP is=20 approaching 2mW.  I am hopeful that you will hear my tiny WSPR= signal one=20 night soon - maybe tonight overnight Gus?

73s
Roger=20 G3XBM



2009/11/7 Gus <begu@algonet.se>

Dear LF group,= =20

After running= beacon=20 WSPR night 6-7 November with only 10 mW ERP (125 mW) TX power on= 500 kHz it=20 gives me great surprise, that a very long range can be achieved wi= th=20 extremely small power!

Dave AA1A got= a=20 decoding where the distance between us is 5756 km.

Also a number= of EU=20 stn=92s reported decodes.


On previou= s occasions,=20 with a power of 1 W ERP is Laurence KL1X/BY3A reported a number of= decoding=20 where the distance between us is 7284 km.

I wou= ld also like to=20 thank the other reporting from the night's 10 mW broadcasts, and= note that=20 WSPR is a fashion which is particularly suitable for very low powe= r!=20

=

73 de Gus SM6BHZ=20

www.sm6bhz.com

=



--=20
-------------------------------------------------------------http://g3xbm-qrp.blogs= pot.com/
http://www.g3xb= m.co.uk
G3XBM  =20  GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088
------=_NextPart_000_0047_01CA600D.F4299E50-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me06.mx.aol.com (rly-me06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.40]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME041-9bd4b0b07b43d5; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:07:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME061-9bd4b0b07b43d5; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:07:51 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCh3b-0002eB-Cf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:06:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCh3b-0002e2-23 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:06:51 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCh3a-0005en-8s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:06:51 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A6C4C8059 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:06:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B65004C808C for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:06:44 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B0B0774.7000304@online.fr> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:06:44 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <57a24ca70911231159k557ba717lbb0cf31cc7eb6e70@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <57a24ca70911231159k557ba717lbb0cf31cc7eb6e70@mail.gmail.com> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WD2XGJ Off 11/24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Warren, Ok , but for the moment XGJ is very strong here ! Look on the grabber ! 73 qro J-P f1afj Warren Ziegler a =E9crit : > WD2XGJ will be off tonight. > > =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME021-9a54b03f1b6276; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:08:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME031-9a54b03f1b6276; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:08:08 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAkFa-0002HV-Gv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:07:10 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAkFa-0002HM-3u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:07:10 +0000 Received: from smtp22.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAkFY-00013b-IP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:07:10 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2216.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0F8F6700008C for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:07:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (153.180.192-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.192.180.153]) by msfrf2216.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id B156670000A3 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:07:00 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091118130700726.B156670000A3@msfrf2216.sfr.fr Message-ID: <000801ca6850$0a837460$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: References: <200911181340310286.0AD12771@smtp2.numeo.fr> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:07:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091118-0, 18/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: F8BOJ 40dB over QRM on 137 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Bonjour John LF group Merci pour le bon controle aujourd'hui il n'y a pas de qrm c'est tr=E9s net sur le grabbers de Markus au plaisir d'une rencontre peut =EAtre a CJ en 2010 best 73's for the All and very good day there is 18=B0 centigrade and sun Bye Claude F8boj JN16WA ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "John RABSON" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 1:40 PM Subject: LF: F8BOJ 40dB over QRM on 137 > At 1240z. > > F5VLF > > > > >=20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg08.mx.aol.com (rly-dg08.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.92]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG074-5e74b091ee5280; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:22:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG086-5e74b091ee5280; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:22:14 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCAVI-0001xn-ME for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:21:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCAVI-0001xe-3g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:21:16 +0000 Received: from mailout03.t-online.de ([194.25.134.81]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCAVG-0003bK-Ad for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:21:16 +0000 Received: from fwd07.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.t-online.de with smtp id 1NCAVF-0006Mf-00; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:21:13 +0100 Received: from e7010 (GEpFXoZOwhNy8mlFRIuxdu8J6UCBie6zV-DRJ-KRTt0TdYpJpgkiphYj-oI30SywVQ@[84.147.254.172]) by fwd07.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1NCAV0-1tZVU80; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:20:58 +0100 Message-ID: <00c801ca6b65$de8f1b70$6402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: References: Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:20:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: GEpFXoZOwhNy8mlFRIuxdu8J6UCBie6zV-DRJ-KRTt0TdYpJpgkiphYj-oI30SywVQ X-TOI-MSGID: 405a4856-ed43-49c9-a1ab-c43b2881bdd0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: DI2BJ active Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C5_01CA6B6E.3E3696E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00C5_01CA6B6E.3E3696E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Moin, moin, Oswald, don=B4t worry, WSPR is a fine machine, but not the ce= nter of the world. If we were allowed to make QSO on 505 I would prefe= r regular CW. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Wolf Ostwald=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 8:58 PM Subject: LF: DI2BJ active Hello group ! DI2BJ will be QRV in regular CW on 505.030 for the weekend. Sorry it= s not WSPR. 73 de wolf df2py ------=_NextPart_000_00C5_01CA6B6E.3E3696E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Moin, moin, Oswald,
      = ;          =20 don=B4t worry, WSPR is a fine machine, but not the center of the world= . If we were=20 allowed to make QSO on 505 I would prefer regular CW.
73    Walter  DI2= AG /=20 DJ2LF
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Wolf= Ostwald=20
Sent: Saturday, November 21,= 2009 8:58=20 PM
Subject: LF: DI2BJ active

Hello group=20 !

DI2BJ will be QRV= in regular CW on=20 505.030 for the weekend. Sorry its not WSPR.

73 de wolf &nb= sp;=20 df2py

------=_NextPart_000_00C5_01CA6B6E.3E3696E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG054-9f64aeffd902d; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:54:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG018-9f64aeffd902d; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:53:22 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N5G3u-0005YH-Jg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:52:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N5G3u-0005Y8-7A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:52:26 +0000 Received: from mail-px0-f194.google.com ([209.85.216.194]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N5G2U-0006N2-Hy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:50:59 +0000 Received: by pxi32 with SMTP id 32so3207833pxi.16 for ; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 01:52:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=jDIo2OrOd6tSGLfp1OyiHC5AuTRtx3CS3cddDL7B/VU=; b=j3/SWrB6uZk7IlCYnDdvlJnGKkurFR6BimT2OMSsOiHdcPtEyH7vokIPTboQUUlDJT 4gM+T+JgszRN9OeeSLF3YdY4LLjwQZ8yTwOr00qBPckFpldsLV8LJJupzNqYa45jRkZw 4FQTku81efu4EO83Y/hsu+QTBExBkr4vm1iwc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=k5oV794hRDjOExElKvyADwhKuw3yj86gyaK8/MRpP60uxaGtXu9p+E2swgZx639OZN qTQvf1+LNQfDlfYlsQ8Ww9n+0FCefPALddS3KjET0dq+GUoPVhl0HR4QZT7qVQxNhVQa 3M1HRftpu0cuwX5nSgEL2wXrxEEPuCOo2nn+8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.136.19 with SMTP id j19mr376650rvd.187.1257241937654; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 01:52:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <993BF7557D4B4C5F8251F19CEB166E93@IBM7FFA209F07C> References: <993BF7557D4B4C5F8251F19CEB166E93@IBM7FFA209F07C> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 09:52:17 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c8dd8cc372e5e3b4 Message-ID: <1f0624b90911030152v3a19f758sda7ba31c0ae0db3c@mail.gmail.com> From: Gary - G4WGT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Hell Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd2531a1733d30477747346 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d310.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0cd2531a1733d30477747346 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Chris, The HELL mode is available in FLdigi & Spectrum Lab. 73 Gary - G4WGT. 2009/11/3 Chris > Hi All, > Does anybody know if the Hell software is still available and, if so, where > from, please? > Thank you and 73, > Chris, G4AYT. > --000e0cd2531a1733d30477747346 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Chris,

The HELL mode is available in FLdigi & Sp= ectrum Lab.

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--000e0cd2531a1733d30477747346-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (rly-dd01.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.148]) by air-dd09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD091-b594afaed0bf7; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:57:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD013-b594afaed0bf7; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:57:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8GUs-0003TL-IM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:56:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8GUs-0003TC-73 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:56:42 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s22.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.33]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8GUA-0007D3-EO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:55:59 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W11 ([65.55.116.7]) by blu0-omc1-s22.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:56:33 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [216.152.181.103] From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China To: Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:56:33 -0900 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Nov 2009 16:56:33.0087 (UTC) FILETIME=[EC133CF0:01CA62EF] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_d16e2bb6-08b1-479d-9efc-0d9e011f3b51_" Subject: LF: Sm6BHZ into KL7 just a couple of mins ago... X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_d16e2bb6-08b1-479d-9efc-0d9e011f3b51_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 091111 1644 2 -29 -0.4 0.503925 SM6BHZ JO57 40 0 5938 0 =20 Delighted over a pretty rough path at times and higher than normal QRN. =20 Thanks for the early start Gus =20 Laurence WE2XpQ KL 1 x bp51ip Wasilla Palmer Alaska K9AY 2 loops Omni R75 =20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ --_d16e2bb6-08b1-479d-9efc-0d9e011f3b51_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 091111 1644   2 -29 -0.4   0.503925  SM6BHZ JO57= 40          0  5938&nbs= p;   0
 
Delighted over a pretty rough path at times and higher than normal QRN.  
Thanks for the early start Gus
 
Laurence WE2XpQ  KL 1 x
bp51ip Wasilla Palmer Alaska
K9AY 2 loops Omni R75
 

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Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0039_01CA6584.FF4B8BF0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01CA6584.FF4B8BF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Peter, Your QRSS3-signal is good readable in JN59LN! vy 73 de Gerhard // DK6NI ================================= ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01CA6584.FF4B8BF0 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="G3LDO_QRSS3.jpg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="G3LDO_QRSS3.jpg" 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for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:26:29 +0000 Received: from mailout05.t-online.de ([194.25.134.82]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDJlB-0003pN-Ri for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:26:29 +0000 Received: from fwd09.aul.t-online.de by mailout05.t-online.de with smtp id 1NDJj2-0007Hu-03; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:24:12 +0100 Received: from df2py (XHKbO0Z6ohR9IGZkzAs5ZMdRlCtceZ-NozBjg2nN9WvlQVjOVyEAdh8US5Y0hVYwBk@[80.187.109.101]) by fwd09.t-online.de with esmtp id 1NDJit-1YhzQO0; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:24:03 +0100 From: "Wolf Ostwald" To: References: Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:25:39 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcpttRycc7MT6VpBRQOTEglJj2WnhQAKNOEg X-ID: XHKbO0Z6ohR9IGZkzAs5ZMdRlCtceZ-NozBjg2nN9WvlQVjOVyEAdh8US5Y0hVYwBk X-TOI-MSGID: c89e806d-5c12-4ba2-a136-ad8da1c306ff X-Spam-Score: 2.6 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.332,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.236,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: instability on MosFet amps Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0036_01CA6DEB.F41F13E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01CA6DEB.F41F13E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello group ! I found that almost all amp configurations generate harmonics. In case of a homebrewed HF amp, with a push -pull design, I had to build hi-pass filters with a resistive termination, so called split filters, for each band. Without dissipating the harmonic energy the stage will have to cope with excess voltages and thus bury the MosFets . My last amp stage for the DI2BJ-beacon is followed by a hi-pass that opens at 750 kcs . This way the first harmonic and all the higher ones go into thermal dissipation. A T-type adjustable low-pass is used to match and reduce harmonics further. Have fun de wolf df2py ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01CA6DEB.F41F13E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hel= lo group !

I= found that almost all amp configurations generate harmonics. In case of a homebrewed HF amp,= with a push –pull design, I had to build hi-pass filters with a resistive te= rmination, so called split filters, for each band. Without dissipating the harmon= ic energy the stage will have to cope with excess voltages and thus bury the Mos= Fets .

My= last amp stage for the DI2BJ-beacon is followed by a hi-pass that opens at 750 kcs . This way= the first harmonic and all the higher ones go into thermal dissipation.

A= T-type adjustable low-pass is used to match and reduce harmonics further.

Hav= e fun           &nbs= p;         de wolf  df2py

------=_NextPart_000_0036_01CA6DEB.F41F13E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb05.mx.aol.com (rly-mb05.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.163]) by air-mb01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB013-d094b081cf7244; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:02:06 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB055-d094b081cf7244; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:01:45 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBtJx-00074x-O3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:00:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBtJx-00074o-5K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:00:25 +0000 Received: from smtp6.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.191]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBtJw-0000nO-46 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:00:25 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3607.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 21D3D7000084 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:00:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3607.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 156D27000086 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:00:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.50.96]) by mwinf3607.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id BDE037000084 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:00:15 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091121170015777.BDE037000084@mwinf3607.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <853E005332DF4B8BA645D243EAD38220@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <785212.33618.qm@web28105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <785212.33618.qm@web28105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:00:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: Re: LF: WSPR BEACONS Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_014B_01CA6ACC.12902670" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_014B_01CA6ACC.12902670 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't think 'one' Norwegian that I know of would agree with you , he is very keen on data modes and sent in many qsl's in the early = days=20 pity still can only work cross band ..=20 G ..=20 From: M0FMT=20 Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 10:54 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: WSPR BEACONS I am with Mal. WSPR has no place on the UK 501 / 504 Kc/s Amate= ur Communication Band. The Norwegian Licence has got it right - CW onl= y! 73 petefmt=20 --- On Sat, 21/11/09, Andy - KU4XR wrote: From: Andy - KU4XR Subject: Re: LF: WSPR BEACONS To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Saturday, 21 November, 2009, 0:01 --- On Fri, 11/20/09, mal hamilton wrote: ****** snippet ****** > a cw QSO operator in real time can qsy to take evasive=20 > action and avoid qrm to others on adjacent frequencies. > G3KEV ***** end snippet ****** By Jove !! is it possible that he finally " GOT IT " ??? heavens to wonders !! Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN. LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 185.29866 KHz ( QRSS-60 ) Coordinates: N: 35* 43' 54" - W: 84* 3' 16" http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr --- On Fri, 11/20/09, mal hamilton wro= te: > From: mal hamilton > Subject: LF: WSPR BEACONS > To: "rsgb" > Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 2:58 PM >=20 >=20 > =20 > =20 >=20 >=20 > =20 > These unattended Beacons > are often a source of QRM=20 > for the CW QSO operator, whereas a cw QSO operator in > real time can qsy to=20 > take evasive action and avoid qrm to others on adjacent=20 > frequencies. > G3KEV > =20 >=20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_014B_01CA6ACC.12902670 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I don't think 'one' Norwegian that I= know of=20 would  agree with you  ,
 he is very keen on data modes= and sent in=20 many qsl's in the  early  days
pity still can only  work = cross =20 band ..
 
G ..

From: M0FMT
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: LF: WSPR BEACONS




------=_NextPart_000_014B_01CA6ACC.12902670-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD042-9134b088f2d5d; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:09:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD073-9134b088f2d5d; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:09:03 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NC0vq-0005ZT-U2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:08:02 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NC0vq-0005ZK-IW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:08:02 +0000 Received: from mailout1.go2.pl ([193.17.41.11]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NC0vp-0003WI-Vb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:08:02 +0000 Received: from mailout1.go2.pl (unknown [10.0.0.104]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9865430003 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:08:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from o2.pl (unknown [10.0.0.38]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:08:00 +0100 (CET) From: bxi@go2.pl To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <5a3cda4e.7f3315ab.4b088eef.46ee6@go2.pl Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:07:59 +0100 X-Originator: 89.76.56.60 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 2.3 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,INVALID_MSGID=1.71,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,SUBJECT_EXCESS_QP=0,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_LF:_SP2KDS_137kHz?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.3 required=5.0 tests=INVALID_MSGID,NO_REAL_NAME, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Nicolas, Andrey, Dave, Ed, LF TNX raport Nicolas, Andrey. Very thank QSO Ed RU6LA and Dave G3YXM. Nov calling CQ 137,700kHz QRSS 10. 73! MArcin SQ2BXI >=20 > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Hello Marcin and Andrey,good copy here in QRSS3. > =20 >=20 > F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP >=20 > RX : Icom IC7400 > Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Dans un e-mail dat=C3=A9 du 22/11/2009 00:16:35 Paris, Madrid, rn3agc@ma= il.ru a =C3=A9crit : > Hi Marcin, > The signal is audible!! S1-2 at 23.10 >=20 > 73 Andrey >=20 > Dear LF, > SP2KDS calling CQ now... > 137,695kHz QRSS 3 > 73! Marcin SQ2BXI >=20 =20 =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB063-ae74b0576b011a; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:49:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB095-ae74b0576b011a; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:48:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBA8n-0000zn-1w for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:45:53 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBA8m-0000ze-Fx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:45:52 +0000 Received: from col0-omc1-s15.col0.hotmail.com ([65.55.34.25]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBA8k-0003H4-M2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:45:52 +0000 Received: from COL122-W19 ([65.55.34.8]) by col0-omc1-s15.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:44:08 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:44:08 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Nov 2009 16:44:08.0539 (UTC) FILETIME=[83983AB0:01CA6937] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_b4e08e32-8312-470d-9fa2-f8def4a4db3d_" Subject: LF: XGJ X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --_b4e08e32-8312-470d-9fa2-f8def4a4db3d_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_abcb4636-585c-40ee-9aba-d75a1a1a563a_" --_abcb4636-585c-40ee-9aba-d75a1a1a563a_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren, Jean-Pierre, LF! The XGJ signal was very nice last night (but I had opened a window and my= RX drifted abt 0.1Hz, HI!) 73! Lubos, OK2BVG =20 _________________________________________________________________ Nov=E1 Windows 7: Kter=FD po=E8=EDta=E8 je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD? Dal=B9= =ED informace. http://windows.microsoft.com/shop=3D --_abcb4636-585c-40ee-9aba-d75a1a1a563a_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Warren, Jean-Pierre, LF!
The XGJ signal was very nice last night= (but I had opened a window and my RX drifted abt 0.1Hz,  HI!)
73!

Lubos, OK2BVG

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autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Hell Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090904030404090309030701" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------090904030404090309030701 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris wrote: > Hi All, > Does anybody know if the Hell software is still available and, if so, > where from, please? > Thank you and 73, > Chris, G4AYT. there is also another very nice piece of software dedicated entirely to Hell modes . it is Nino's IZ8BLY prgram which can be found on his webpage: http://xoomer.virgilio.it/aporcino/Hell/index.htm it does handle the ptt isuue in a 'classic' way i.e. via available com ports 73 de Piotr, sq7mpj qth: Lodz /jo91rs/ --------------090904030404090309030701 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chris wrote:
Hi All,
Does anybody know if the Hell software is still available and, if so, where from, please?
Thank you and 73,
Chris, G4AYT.
there is also another very nice piece of software dedicated entirely to=C2=A0 Hell modes . it is Nino's IZ8BLY
prgram which can be found on his webpage:
http://xoomer.virgilio.it/aporcino/Hell/index.htm<= br> it does handle the ptt isuue in a 'classic' way i.e. via available com ports

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 73 de Piotr, sq7mpj

qth: Lodz /jo91rs/

--------------090904030404090309030701-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg01.mx.aol.com (rly-dg01.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.85]) by air-dg04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG042-59e4afeac6624d; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:11:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG013-59e4afeac6624d; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:11:03 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9IOE-0007uZ-QZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 13:10:06 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9IOE-0007uQ-3M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 13:10:06 +0000 Received: from smtp826.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.13.123]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9IOC-00040H-ML for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 13:10:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 96128 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2009 13:09:59 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE:Importance; b=B/YZCP9Ma0PRk5ybRx0o0q+eUwjhkALo24Oz7IkOqB8haE3al+uUUg7IqFw7rS5kyA4hPHTCTipByXO6CoYnUfeDwvXqHdpdn/4lUlm/9XlOcZu2cZl3mL6qJPvOZGxtC+AVv7iusO7ua5E4cai0MYlBk2PbU/zz6seqUX/OfAA= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@81.154.8.30 with login) by smtp826.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Nov 2009 13:09:58 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: JSvqNSWswBBXc9Mk_Vd71RtGz2bViJtuZMADdmi78eLqBj_R7.fL X-YMail-OSG: 5OueaqsVM1nOEUUQQifvupo2oip.jRbL3_RpKtlKqLi0LD0t9r26QM7CiWargqCjVae5sRTIgWo5aeG9XjR67o3QdiWJ5oanJ_JMZXmvtt.kW18Mos7DjOTmkaMYn58UG_SP4MWU7xH471Zm.5axb8C2v8YCPOob6bJ3yw55aXk.lFhU67td1i_IgtRTzu7IULZ4spLOrPtuPNtF7Ub6kEhvcGMgFbg66TIAAu6j4IAOHFG5tuQmOBO2LJ2seOsJriZM1sbXBZzg97bqRM121gV0S_XbCbbUv7SOqbuUlR3W1QBPuZKbnWsJY2NPxeT9QHOMSb5u1O4MnapDqNXZ X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 13:10:16 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <025801ca6528$a566dec0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: PIRATES Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 This discussion is off topic and has nothing to do with LF or 500 kHz. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of mal hamilton Sent: 14 November 2009 12:48 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: PIRATES Well you have been hooked. I have a mix of transport both a bicycle and a CLK320 for your records, living dangerously. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "g4gvw" To: Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 12:30 AM Subject: Re: LF: PIRATES > Mal, > > I have been extremely successful of late in not rising to your bait on > various topics. This time I really must take umbrage at your rather > sweeping statement about the Maritime Service vis-a-vis the 500khz > allocation. > The maritime Service has been almost 100% a "commercial" service and as > such has had as its primary interest the maintenance of a viable > communications service. As far as I am aware. no serious research has > been done by that service into weak-signal and similar modes apart from > that done by the various military interests. Effectively, as soon as > alternative and arguably more efficient/cost effective alternatives > became available these commercial interests naturally migrated to them. > This is not the same as saying they had "exhausted all possibilities and > concluded it is of no further use." Your statement is rather like saying > that the coming of the motor car rendered the bicycle or the horse > obsolete and of "no further use"! It's a funny thing but in my travels I > see plenty of both in widespread use! > Amateur radio for many of us encompasses a wide range of activities and > your constant carping and promotion of your own rather biased interests > gets on the nerves of quite a lot of us to the extent that some members > no longer subscribe to the group. > Perhaps you should consider the view that, as with the cyclists and > horse riders there are modes of operation that lead to the promotion of > health and happiness and a calm and healthy state of mind. > > > > > > On Fri, 2009-11-13 at 17:44 +0000, mal hamilton wrote: >> Lots of pirates reported around the east african coast and Indian >> ocean but now Radio pirates !!!! on 500. >> How would one know a Pirate? their style of sending on cw or the way >> they WSPR. >> Beware of the WSPR merchants no ID just carriers switching on/off as >> far as the casual radio amateur is concerned. Instead of a simple >> approach worldwide to issue Radio Amateur licences for the >> traditional CW mode on 500, appliance operator licences were issued >> for Broadcast modes ie >> CW beacons, Data beacons, and other transmissions, which must stop at >> Country Borders and must not be reported by anyone hearing such >> transmissions beyond these Borders. >> In other words the whole 500 khz business is Chaotic, whereas the >> other MF allocation 160 metres is orderly and sensibly regulated using >> in the main CW and SSB. >> It would appear the appropriate license authorities do not think the >> Appliance Operator has much to contribute to the advancement or >> research on 500. >> The marine service has been using the band for the past 100 years and >> has exhausted all possibilities and concluded it is of no further use, >> with the advancement of Satellite communications technology. >> 500 in EU seems to be a fun band for WSPR Beacons where no operator >> participation is required just unattended machines belching out bits >> of data and generating QRM to the few Radio amateurs trying to get by >> on CW. >> Let us have your opinion. >> De G3KEV >> >> >> >> > -- > 73 es gd dx de pat g4gvw > qth nr felixstowe uk > (east coast, county of suffolk) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.62/2499 - Release Date: 11/12/09 14:33:00 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG064-9fa4b042c2c170; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:18:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG024-9fa4b042c2c170; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:17:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAo8c-0003Lj-Oa for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:16:14 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAo8c-0003La-3a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:16:14 +0000 Received: from smtp822.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.18]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAo8Z-0003K6-V8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:16:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 82980 invoked from network); 18 Nov 2009 17:16:06 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=Zpf6qWRaVYz8krbqQ5ZavIubFw+cMk1YqrVHixCIfqAfoVnoRYfqZ380q7q6H3W4Vbju1zS6DnU6tsDFim3TGEnFLivCwVRgLMa0eG59fEQrRtAh8Xx2yZOPOn07MhrmubgsstCCEfZ5KztxtceZgV7TgjA8ZiE57jWGcpv2uVk= ; Received: from unknown (HELO DennisPC) (dennis.easterling@86.130.78.97 with login) by smtp822.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Nov 2009 17:16:06 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: H_MJu2qswBDkdHeCAZfwexko6VNOiMP5URzYEvz3WrE5v1grQm6fnvJecjM9 X-YMail-OSG: obUKQMgVM1nNns5Deqk2awDOoA9MFuTwab0ZMnvHx86tqP_D_gjUi0dkNk.rYfTb41Aya5Qr3tAeCn4demEAQuoY1JmgblhUtxsW4tk5Wa1j1cLggo4ClSgrgon1xrhmsNNXj.BcOgs8FVZQs1no4Cy_ew3L5cfJTCRBJo3hJ112DusSSiRTCD2cr_8aNTNcpXQUsKmEu0iw5xclIvcdd_f.CmjfpMF_.pHMX8s8ZiB2GqDWBAeSftXuXqCNhkka X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <8E115927716E4640BE76583239937818@DennisPC> From: "DENNIS EASTERLING" To: Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:16:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Lost QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0071_01CA6872.CE48ABF0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0071_01CA6872.CE48ABF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Mal Sorry if I left you in the lurch 16.5 today, after giving you a repor= t 599 something happened and a single frequency signal came up on top= of you and slowly drifted down frequency, perhaps someone tuning? Better luck next time. 73 Dennis M0JXM ------=_NextPart_000_0071_01CA6872.CE48ABF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Mal
 
Sorry if I left you in the lurch = ; 16.5 today,=20 after giving you a report 599 something happened and a single=20 frequency signal came up on top of you and slowly drifted down fr= equency,=20 perhaps someone tuning?
 
Better luck next time.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
------=_NextPart_000_0071_01CA6872.CE48ABF0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDA072-a7f4b0c64a07c; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:56:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA077-a7f4b0c64a07c; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:56:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ND4Hw-00088Z-Kt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:55:12 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ND4Hw-00088Q-3b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:55:12 +0000 Received: from mailt.toya.net.pl ([217.113.224.9] ident=postfix) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ND4Hu-0005xR-75 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:55:12 +0000 Received: from mail.toya.net.pl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.toya.net.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 619F42000059F for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:55:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.103] (unknown [10.11.152.246]) (Authenticated sender: unimlyn) by mail.toya.net.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4228320000060 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:55:09 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B0C644B.2030807@toya.net.pl> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:55:07 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGlvdHIgTcWCeW5hcnNraQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <774E21EDD9DB4D8292615A728F4050AF@AGB> <97EE052373644555BA2C6F114C693250@2a2d7ed321c6425> <52A6DF956B1944F4BBF07AA8C96F9BC3@AGB> In-Reply-To: <52A6DF956B1944F4BBF07AA8C96F9BC3@AGB> X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: AW: STANAG .. What software is this showing ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020208060402090608030403" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------020208060402090608030403 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Graham wrote: > Thanks .Jose / Gerhard > =20 > 73 - G .. > > From: Beckmann, Gerhard > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:11 PM > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Cc: 'Graham' > Subject: LF: AW: STANAG .. What software is this showing ?? > > Hello Graham, > > =20 > > Partly our good old PSK Sounder programm can decode STANAG messages=20 > (identifier=E2=80=A6) > > For further steps there is only commercial software available as far=20 > as I know. > > http://www.klingenfuss.org/perseus.htm > > (for example =E2=80=93hi--) > > =20 > > Vy 73 de Gerhard // DK6NI > > =20 > > =3D=3D=3D=3D > Hello Gerhard, Graham Today, just few hours ago, Mal was asking about sitor-b decoding=20 software. I've replied here, on this reflector , suggesting him to use ,= =20 among others, the software named SIGMIRA . it is free for download and use and it=20 does have built-in decoder for STANAG and as i assume we speak about=20 the same thing i.e. 2400 baud 8-PSK modulation :) pse, read my post issued earlier today where you can find the=20 appropriate link to this soft. = =20 73 de Piotr, sq7mpj qth: Lodz /jo91rs/ --------------020208060402090608030403 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Graham wrote:
Thanks=C2=A0 .Jose / Gerhard
=C2=A0
73 - G ..

From: Beckmann, Gerhard
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:11 PM
Subject: LF: AW: STANAG .. What software is this showing ??

Hello Graham,

=C2=A0

Partly our good old PSK Sounder programm can decode STANAG messages (identifier=E2=80=A6)

For further steps there is only commercial software available as far as I know.

http://www.kli= ngenfuss.org/perseus.htm

(for example =E2=80=93hi--)

=C2=A0

Vy 73 de Gerhard=C2=A0 //=C2=A0 DK6NI

=C2=A0

=3D=3D=3D=3D

Hello Gerhard, Graham
=C2=A0Today,=C2=A0 just few hours ago,=C2=A0 Mal was asking about sitor-b= =C2=A0 decoding software. I've replied here, on this reflector , suggesting him to use , among others,
the software=C2=A0 named SIGMIRA . it is=C2=A0 free for download and use= and it does have built-in decoder for STANAG=C2=A0 and as i assume we speak about the same thing i.e.
2400 baud 8-PSK modulation=C2=A0 :)
pse, read=C2=A0 my post issued earlier today where you can find the appropriate link to this soft.

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 73 de Piotr, sq7mpj
qth: Lodz /jo91rs/

 --------------020208060402090608030403-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df10.mx.aol.com (rly-df10.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.23]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF062-5804b06e3e72aa; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:46:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF103-5804b06e3e72aa; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:46:01 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBYTa-0000CY-Ph for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:44:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBYTa-0000CP-8s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:44:58 +0000 Received: from mta41.charter.net ([216.33.127.83]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBYTZ-0001vf-Fr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:44:58 +0000 Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.10]) by mta41.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.02.04 201-2219-117-106-20090629) with ESMTP id <20091120184450.NMDO23932.mta41.charter.net@imp10>; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:44:50 -0500 Received: from mp17 ([209.225.8.247]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id 7Wkn1d00N5Knl7V05Wkojt; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:44:48 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=zMJO7iCr_SOfKds0gH8A:9 a=wB3e8mu1W-BuM-le0H8aDcoCesIA:4 Message-ID: <20091120134448.AZWVG.1555689.root@mp17> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:44:48 -0800 From: To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: lowfer@mailman.qth.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: from 64.206.3.50 by ssomail.charter.net; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:44:47 -0500 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.7 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: WD2XES WSPR 136.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) WD2XES will be running a WSPR beacon for the next two evenings. Set your receiver for 136.0 kHz USB -- I will be on 137.577 kHz. The start time tonight (Friday) will be around 2345 UTC, and hopefully earlier on Saturday night. The transmit time will be set for 50%, and company from either side of the pond would be welcome. Assuming no problems, it will run until 1100Z the next morning. Reports are always welcome by email or the MEPT spot database. John, W1TAG/WD2XES FN42ch From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df04.mx.aol.com (rly-df04.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.17]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF073-5434afaff01b3; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:14:43 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF042-5434afaff01b3; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:14:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8HhB-0003lT-AS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:13:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8HhA-0003lK-Sg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:13:28 +0000 Received: from mailout01.t-online.de ([194.25.134.80]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8Hh8-0005C7-2V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:13:28 +0000 Received: from fwd05.aul.t-online.de by mailout01.t-online.de with smtp id 1N8GQo-0006Ui-02; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:52:30 +0100 Received: from [192.168.2.22] (XNg33aZT8hmelHJUXQlONqXVhnZ6tTK4PH4xQEdrj4yZbhX+6GEwCRheuyw69PVwm6@[93.196.56.230]) by fwd05.t-online.de with esmtp id 1N8EkP-1rIiRc0; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:04:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de References:<001101ca621e$dcdc3380$96949a80$@princeton.edu> <20091110192309.4v8agotbs0k0gocs@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <004a01ca6249$d91531e0$8b3f95a0$@princeton.edu> <20091110222951.cr4qtrqagcwcowok@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <4AFAAE9C.1070304@ukonline.co.uk> In-Reply-To:<4AFAAE9C.1070304@ukonline.co.uk> To: X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.08.0003 Date: 11 Nov 2009 15:04 GMT Message-ID: <1N8EkP-1rIiRc0@fwd05.t-online.de> X-ID: XNg33aZT8hmelHJUXQlONqXVhnZ6tTK4PH4xQEdrj4yZbhX+6GEwCRheuyw69PVwm6 X-TOI-MSGID: 3ca2b1d6-eda1-4992-ad2c-a3ce7d823fb6 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Ferrite characteristics Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Peter, besides measuring the AL value as alrady described there is another rather simple way to determine the characteristics of ferrites: Take an Ohms meter and see if the core itself is conducting or not, when the contacts touching the core are separated about half an inch or so. Very high resistance is typical for nickel-zinc cores (suitable for rf transformers) whilst conducting cores are of the magnesium-zinc type, to be used at much lower frequencies. Good luck! 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB "Peter Dodd" schrieb: > Does anyone know of a method of measuring the characteristics > (permeability) of ferrite cores? I have a box of these most without any > identification although I do have T200, 68-2T and T68-2s whose > characteristics are known. > > It occurs to me that you can make a tuned circuit and measure resonance > with a GDO when a ferrite core is inserted into the inductance. A graph > could be made of the different resonances with different cores, to > extrapolate the unknowns. > > However I think that ferrite bulk might be a problem. For example I > guess the red T cores use the same material but would there be a > difference between the T200 and the T68? > > I have lots of material about ferrites in general - I just want to know > what I have in my junk box. I am not interested in exact measurements, I > just want to know if a core is suitable for a specific job. > > Regards > > Peter, G3LDO > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md08.mx.aol.com (rly-md08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.146]) by air-md06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD061-91d4b01887f30f; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:15:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD085-91d4b01887f30f; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:14:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA58f-0006hf-A9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:13:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA58e-0006hW-Uh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:13:16 +0000 Received: from smtpa1.mediabeam.com ([194.25.41.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA58e-0001dP-1Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:13:16 +0000 Received: from r300-1 (balancer4.mediabeam.com [194.25.41.40]) by smtpa1.mediabeam.com (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id nAGHD6CX009294 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:13:08 +0100 From: "Uwe Jannsen" To: Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:13:05 Message-ID: <1A3407D90B10110D0521E@kabelmail.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-PRIORITY: 3 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.3 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FUZZY_OCR_WRONG_CTYPE=1.500,INVALID_DATE=1.76 Subject: Re: LF:SP2KDS Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Next_Part_000_16112009171305.00001A34" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------=_Next_Part_000_16112009171305.00001A34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Marcin, hi Roman, strong signs in JO43SV. pse see attechment. regards Uwe/dj8wx -------- Kabel E-Mail Reply --------------- From: rw3adb@rambler.ru To : rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: 15.11.2009 23:22:16 Hi Marcin, LF! 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4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEX6K-0001yU-7f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:53:18 +0000 Received: from mailout1.go2.pl (unknown [10.0.0.104]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE9BB30002 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 00:53:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from unknown (unknown [10.0.0.42]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 00:53:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from 58-178-124-188.rev.pro-internet.pl [188.124.178.58] by poczta.o2.pl with ESMTP id Yhdpzz; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 00:53:12 +0100 Message-ID: <002e01ca7085$f21d05b0$3ab27cbc@ap6fnsa53r3k6h> From: "Marcin" To: References: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AA67@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 00:50:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-O2-Trust: 2, 65 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Stefan, LF Very good copied your signal in Poland. Why use your portable ground system? -- Vy 73! Macin SQ2BXI Dear Lowfers, This is my first mail to the reflector and so i want to say hello to= all :-) It=B4s nice to be able to participate now here although my activity wi= ll stay on the band mostly ;-) If there will be no weather problems this evening I will agn be qrv on= 137 in CW (abt 136,8) and/or QRSS3. Since abt 3 weeks I am qrv again. Since I live in a city I have no possibilities to be on LF, even not in RXing (QRM)... Therefore and ca= use I like to be in the nature I am now qrv in /p. I use a kite antenna, 100= m up (!). This should have a radiation resistance of 0,83 Ohms. My overall resistance is abt 30...55 Ohms, depending on the ground a achieve. So= you can imagine abt the ERP. I have a 1KW class E PA that I use with limit= ed power. But The ERP easily reaches the 1W ERP limit, as one can imagine= .. My RX is still poor but I am working on a receiving loop. Now, I use= the TX ant for receiving that causes some problems ;-) It would be nice to get some QSOs or even RX-RPRTs tonight. Until now= I got 2 QSOs in each activity ;-) Best regards, Stefan / DK7FC From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (rly-dd08.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.155]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDD062-b954b140b98244; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:14:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD087-b954b140b98244; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:14:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NFAky-0007nX-IO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:13:52 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NFAky-0007nO-44 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:13:52 +0000 Received: from out1.ip02ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.238]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NFAkv-0004B6-Uq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:13:52 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAL+ZE0tcGu1+/2dsb2JhbACESMU1j2+BL4IuVAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,315,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="142450770" Received: from unknown (HELO your91hoehfy9g) ([92.26.237.126]) by out1.ip02ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 30 Nov 2009 18:13:38 +0000 Message-ID: <000501ca71e8$d925b980$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <1259600322.2708.33.camel@gerhard-desktop> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:13:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Testtransmission 137,685 OE3GHB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Gerhard Ur sig visible at 1812 z MMM copy QSB De mal/g3kev/IO94SH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerhard Hickl" To: Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 4:58 PM Subject: LF: Testtransmission 137,685 OE3GHB > Hi all! > > In the moment I'm trying to test my TX and my antenna. I'm going to > transmit from 1800z to 2000z today. Probably a bit longer. > > My Antenna is a Marconi, 12m vertically/top-loaded. The loading coil is > about 2,4 mH and antenna input is about 35 Watts. > > The QRG will be 137,685 and the text is "TEST OE3GHB" repeated every 10 > Minutes. My VFO is also still in development-state an so QRG could vary > some cps. > > Please take the time and try to receive my signal. Reports are very > appreciated. Thank you in advance. > > 73 and cheers > > OE3GHB > Gerhard > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb01.mx.aol.com (rly-mb01.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.154]) by air-mb06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB064-cec4af7081e1d8; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:04:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB018-cec4af7081e1d8; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:04:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7C6n-0007p3-3g for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:03:25 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7C6m-0007op-E3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:03:24 +0000 Received: from web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([87.248.110.180]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7C6l-0005qa-K5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:03:23 +0000 Received: (qmail 75843 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Nov 2009 18:03:18 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1257703398; bh=Yq87SEXgJJrWnwDcUSzrtsP8fbJ4drsYS3wYkVqaZys=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PaC2NEVrP0D51EvXLzJubEsQ1tX8SHld1+8J/vA2LwTGYEmGxMCDn7SUhxeO4veyd1Xnphx4UdYb0neEJZKPVM9vO/dxj3NXH7gRlzFZLgj4qBDwTXqMiboIuwI8J7nUmvtb2zy/2rnsO4mAJ3r7ciSEWCfghYJDnyv5s87SxEY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=w8kh+n/ZMlbhBbRk5sB87YWIURacEAjHjroHgxjdOY8dszaaD32/wT6tgsBX5D/EixkvZRaQgwLEfIdKgSYUNM8tYEv/TAOVk7YXftMylm5BjBjcz6VlEUGR+ehmkZ0+q0NjdfF2UpmS94+Y+D51efJsJa0VDYb/fnayFoNJtGQ=; Message-ID: <112811.74996.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 0j6GIF0VM1lg4Sp1bmWWUcULC1XOR42bokkKhG10lb8m3ZWeHZEwWyg2UGo2Ja5Vrv6aq2hBMKOuDNARqAaNDLRMFycWn15wWsA3w69McRWKyMU5drVnVp53w.qOM9tGW9WcOStoKep_omxY5yfhNri5ijO64aIS4QdQg.LaTzp3mlfY6Y7Ck6YcTh8bazEvJTXhsnumdqrudaaKUwkWH3eJNQFNBOlcteV.uT3rdJhhAIxg0BrJ2B_x07_5u5c9LXE- Received: from [80.6.43.68] by web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:03:17 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/211.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:03:17 +0000 (GMT) From: Chris Osborn To: LF Group MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2016457650-1257703397=:74996" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, LINES_OF_YELLING,LINES_OF_YELLING_2 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d272.1 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : fail --0-2016457650-1257703397=:74996 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LF It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m. This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 600m /= 80m. Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0CF -= No. 998. QSO break-down according to mode: 928 CW, 34 RTTY and 5 QRSS 600m STATIONS My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many of= these go back to the start of the UK 600m allocation in March 2007. Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding beaco= ns). Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of agai= n: G3KZU, G3YHV . . . Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT: G3UNT, G3VTT= , G4GDR. . . MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the same sta= tions many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of my total conta= cts. My most frequently worked stations are: GW3UEP - 120 G3KEV - 102 M0FMT - 90 G3ZWH - 80 (alas now= SK) G3DXZ - 67 G4GDR - 60 EI0CF/ GI4DPE - 51 M0JXM - 48 G3UNT - 45 G3VTT - 38 CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a cross-ba= nd QSO: DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . . and our few EU MF friends are still active: ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . . WSPR ON 600m I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for the WSPR= mode was never achieved for hand sent Morse (CW), which after all is the= mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF marine band. If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stations oper= ating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band then I guess= it may be time for me to QSY. 73 Chris G3XIZ =20 --0-2016457650-1257703397=:74996 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
LF

It was a red-letter day today as I achieved= my 1000th QSO using 600m.
This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtua= lly all of which were 600m / 80m.

Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO wit= h runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0CF - No. 998.

QSO break-down ac= cording to mode:     928 CW,  34 RTTY  and &= nbsp; 5 QRSS

600m STATI= ONS

My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many of these go back= to the start of the UK  600m allocation in March 2007.
Of these= I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding beacons).
= Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of agai= n:  G3KZU, G3YHV . . .
Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QR= T:  G3UNT, G3VTT, G4GDR. . .

MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED

With so few active opera= tors it is obvious that one will work the same stations many times and the= top 10 stations account for 70% of my total contacts.
My most frequent= ly worked stations are:

GW3UEP - 120     G3KEV= - 102      M0FMT - 90     G3= ZWH  -  80  (alas now SK)
G3DXZ    - = ;  67     G4GDR -   60   = ;   EI0CF/ GI4DPE  -  51   M0JXM - 48
G3U= NT    -   45     G3VTT = -   38

CROSS= -BAND AND EU STATIONS

There are a few 'regular' stations who= listen to 600m and enjoy a cross-band QSO:
DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE,= G3TVF . . .

and our few EU MF friends are still active:
ON4KTJ,= OR7T and OZ8NJ. . .

WS= PR ON 600m

I personally find it sad that the present level= of enthusiasm for the WSPR mode was never achieved for  hand sent Mo= rse (CW), which after all is the mode which I call to mind when thinking= of the old MF marine band.
If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with= more and stronger stations operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment whi= ch is the 600m band then I guess it may be time for me to QSY.

73 Chris G3XIZ


<= br>




--0-2016457650-1257703397=:74996-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da01.mx.aol.com (rly-da01.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.75]) by air-da04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA042-a4f4b070db3d9; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:44:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA017-a4f4b070db3d9; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:44:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBbGB-0001l6-Hl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:43:19 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBbGA-0001kx-Vq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:43:18 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBbGA-00032P-0l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:43:18 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so3998151bwz.4 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:43:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=02zOBoCLReazA/UmKYxPihsZ9d80pRswF5ipH+rEQtQ=; b=kvobNcRs9AWYS/mj0ZR50n0gzts1ZaflJn0C/j7tAwzEtTDJI4lgR0M+N3i375tZ0s IEvG4D3xMhz3hTdqwM1PANSJ9WOSRj4h1uF5M8RLeYuQJxKjOU1eS11PyGEQna2HsXo1 7koz+Xrla+qI/fL6IuPlMhzT4zF6KFieLYwSQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=hAAYhh5X+DaWUP+XhDvUZvtf2OPnrFhlIk70Qq+pHL5wM4m8S3Px1nup9cQUZqCu6L idVk3mgxtAb8jgQRERzH8zlMjYovye5tICFVNOok6Pivow7KhJ6VIQN/x1W/wBmfKe2M IbTVNE4Qd7Q76tuhp6FloBD9HzbqjFpYapRiw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.157.24 with SMTP id z24mr1864875bkw.208.1258753391117; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:43:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <009a01ca6a22$07a90470$0517aac0@desktop> References: <20091120141648.8WGQY.1557635.root@mp17> <007f01ca6a1b$34a0b8d0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <009a01ca6a22$07a90470$0517aac0@desktop> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:43:11 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911201343q6330c05cxbc250a456fc61952@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: WSPR a QSO mode not just beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175d0640bcc78c0478d45c4b X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d248.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0015175d0640bcc78c0478d45c4b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Now I am unclear what *really* constitutes a WSPR QSO. Does me getting a WSPR database report from XX3XXX and he getting on from me at much the same time on the same database constitute a QSO? Or does it have to be a "real" QSO a bit like JT6m? I agree with Rik that an HF contest exchange contains less (mutually useful) data than either of these. 73s Roger G3XBM 2009/11/20 James Cowburn > Dear All, > > According to the ARRL, WSPR contacts, if verified as two way, will qualify > towards DXCC awards as they consider these to be a QSO mode and not simply > a > beacon. > > As there is an exchange of callsign, locator and signal strength then that > was deemed sufficient by the ARRL to qualify for DXCC and as a QSO in a > data > mode much like RTTY or PSK31 for example. > > This was discussed at the recent RSGB conference in a session on WSPR. > > With best regards > > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton > Sent: 20 November 2009 19:54 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: Re: WD2XES WSPR 136.0 > > Recently there has been an upsurge in wspr BEACON appliance operators and > your suggested frequency area is not the place for them. The bottom end > would keep Beacon acty out of the way. There would still be room for the > odd > EU qrs operator, can't say I have heard many in recent years. The freq area > 137 - 138 k/cs is frequently occupied by Russian and other EU dxers for > inter Country working using CW and QRS and 136.5 - 137 for local CW > working. > NA stns wishing to work EU would still use 137 - 138 on CW and QRS and not > be clobbered by wspr carriers going ON/OFF. > I hope you see the logic > G3KEV > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:16 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Re: WD2XES WSPR 136.0 > > > > Thanks for the suggestion, but I doubt it will cause you any more > interference than it has for the last 5 years. From our perspective, the > lower end of the band has long been reserved for EU to NA operation. > > > > John, W1TAG > > > > ---- mal hamilton wrote: > > > om I woud suggest you Beacon at the extreme bottom end of the band and > not > > > in the middle of the CW and QRS DX portion. > > > > > > > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --0015175d0640bcc78c0478d45c4b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Now I am unclear what really constitutes a WSPR QSO. Does me gettin= g a WSPR database report from XX3XXX and he getting on from me at much the= same time on the same database constitute a QSO? Or does it have to be a= "real" QSO a bit like JT6m?

I agree with Rik that an HF contest exchange contains less (mutually= useful) data than either of these.

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/11/20 James Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.net>=
Dear All,

According to the ARRL, WSPR contacts, if verified as two way, will qualify=
towards DXCC awards as they consider these to be a QSO mode and not simply= a
beacon.

As there is an exchange of callsign, locator and signal strength then that=
was deemed sufficient by the ARRL to qualify for DXCC and as a QSO in a da= ta
mode much like RTTY or PSK31 for example.

This was discussed at the recent RSGB conference in a session on WSPR.

With best regards


Jim



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_= group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_l= f_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton
Sent: 20 November 2009 19:54
To: rsgb_lf_group@blackshe= ep.org
Subject: Re: LF: Re: WD2XES WSPR 136.0

Recently there has been an upsurge in wspr BEACON appliance operators and<= br> your suggested frequency area is not the place for them. The bottom end would keep Beacon acty out of the way. There would still be room for the= odd
EU qrs operator, can't say I have heard many in recent years. The freq= area
137 - 138 k/cs is frequently occupied by Russian and other EU dxers for inter Country working using CW and =A0 =A0 QRS and 136.5 - 137 for local= CW
working.
NA stns wishing to work EU would still use 137 - 138 on CW and =A0QRS and= not
be clobbered by wspr carriers going ON/OFF.
I hope you see the logic
G3KEV

----- Original Message -----
From: <w1tag@charter.net> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org>
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: WD2XES WSPR 136.0


> Thanks for the suggestion, but I doubt it will cause you any more
interference than it has for the last 5 years. From our perspective, the lower end of the band has long been reserved for EU to NA operation.
>
> John, W1TAG
>
> ---- mal hamilton <g3kevm= al@talktalk.net> wrote:
> > om I woud suggest you Beacon at the extreme bottom end of the ba= nd and
not
> > in the middle of the CW and QRS DX portion.
>
>






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Hi LF,
capture WPF
Henny pa3cpm
73s
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(webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FC7131E703 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:16:54 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id 4622E18056; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:16:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from 171.156-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (171.156-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.247.156.171]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:16:54 +0100 Message-ID: <20091122201654.1vcwyecs0sgoswcw@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:16:54 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <4B04EADA.4090707@telus.net> <57a24ca70911190525s5bbf2768gcfe5e7150eb8f784@mail.gmail.com> <20091121211012.fehyrbxl4400ckc8@webmail6.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.247.156.171 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: temporary grabber Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Joe, the 507.77kHz grabber is now active again 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T PS: if there are other US/Canadians stations transmitting tonight I can try to set up a second grabber Quoting "jcraig@mun.ca" : > Thanks, Rik. > > It appears as the signals are there already. > > 73 > Joe > > On Sat, 21 Nov 2009, Rik Strobbe wrote: > >>> In the mean time, VX9MRC is presently on 507.77 kHz transmitting QRSS10 >> >> Hello Joe, >> >> I have set up a temporary 507.77 kHz grabber at >> http://www.strobbe.eu/argo/argo.jpg >> >> 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da08.mx.aol.com (rly-da08.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.82]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDA074-a874b0f008ab7; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:26:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA087-a874b0f008ab7; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:26:19 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDmlj-0000ZJ-0g for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:24:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDmli-0000ZA-DR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:24:54 +0000 Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.35]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDmlh-0004Kg-M5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:24:54 +0000 Received: from LAPTOP (a83-163-2-28.adsl.xs4all.nl [83.163.2.28]) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id nAQMOlLv098828 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:24:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from misan@xs4all.nl) Message-ID: From: "M. Sanders" To: References: <000e01ca6e84$d86c8710$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:24:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: CLASS E Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0024_01CA6EEF.A608BCB0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01CA6EEF.A608BCB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Mal an all LF, I have built an Class-E 100W amp for 136kHz at approx 85%-90% efficien= cy at 12VDC with two IRF fet's parallel some time ago. The capacitors= used in the output circuit were somwhat large to transform the low im= pedance at the FET output towards the aearial output socket at 50Ohms.= For DC separation an elco 450uF at 105degC (normally used in switchin= g PSU's) worked ok. The PI filter capacitors high voltage type worked= fine (did not get hot). PI filter L is 10uH air wound with a ferrid= rod partly inside moving back/forward inside the coil for tuning the= amp at exactly class-E phase shift and compensating the aereal impeda= nce, not beeing exactly 50 ohms in practice of course. Any iron near= the coil melts! so use only copper/brass materials there. The first pair of fets have been blown up by not switching the gate fu= lly in voltage. No fet will survive if DS is not turned fully open ins= tantly. Normal DS resistance at Vgate > 2V is below 0.3Ohm, power dis= sipated within fet specs at class-E. At Vgate below 2V the Pds=3DVds*I= ds at the phase shift that works for class E will destroy any fet. Slo= ppy gate switching / driving the class-E wit a sine-wave and you're up= for trouble sooner or later (aereal 50Ohm mismatch).=20 Kind regards, best 73's, Mike, PC4M=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 11:40 AM Subject: LF: CLASS E MF and Co Getting suitable capacitors is the problem, not normally available= from the junk box. Maybe a class F amp is the answer or the mechanical G turbo charged= rumoured to be over 100% efficient G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01CA6EEF.A608BCB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Mal an all LF,
 
I have built an Class-E 100W amp= for 136kHz at=20 approx 85%-90% efficiency at 12VDC with two IRF fet's parallel some ti= me ago.=20 The capacitors used in the output circuit were somwhat large to transf= orm the=20 low impedance at the FET output towards the aearial output socket=  at=20 50Ohms. For DC separation an elco 450uF at 105degC (normally used in= switching=20 PSU's) worked ok. The PI filter capacitors high voltage type  wor= ked fine=20 (did not get hot). PI filter L is 10uH air wound with a ferrid ro= d partly=20 inside moving back/forward inside the coil for tuning the amp at= exactly=20 class-E phase shift and compensating the aereal impedance, not beeing= exactly 50=20 ohms in practice of course. Any iron near the coil melts! so use only= =20 copper/brass materials there.
 
The first pair of fets have been blow= n up by not=20 switching the gate fully in voltage. No fet will survive if DS is not= turned=20 fully open instantly. Normal DS resistance at Vgate > 2V  is= below=20 0.3Ohm, power dissipated within fet specs at class-E. At Vgate below= 2V=20 the Pds=3DVds*Ids at the phase shift that works for class E= will destroy=20 any fet. Sloppy gate switching / driving the class-E wit a sine-w= ave=20 and you're up for trouble sooner or later (aereal 50Ohm=20 mismatch). 
 
Kind regards, best 73's,
 
Mike, PC4M 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mal=20 hamilton
To: rsgb
Sent: Thursday, November 26,= 2009 11:40=20 AM
Subject: LF: CLASS E

MF and Co
Getting suitable capacitors is the= problem, not=20 normally available from the junk box.
Maybe a class F amp is the answer= or the=20 mechanical G turbo charged rumoured to be over 100%=20 efficient
G3KEV
 
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Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:43:29 +0100 From: "Wolf Ostwald" To: References: <4B07ABA4.4060102@online.fr> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:45:14 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcpqkgSxXagfeVNHQ8Oi5RcXnN20bgABGD6w X-ID: XdqWRmZArhai1Ta09J-VRYgf9zNqGBKTD-ScOfE+MMsL23MZbdfhu3DQQhRSpFbZW7 X-TOI-MSGID: bf89bdb2-daba-48a2-a21c-d869b7657958 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0021_01CA6AA0.17A06660" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01CA6AA0.17A06660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello group ! I am not an expert with WSPR at all. But I followed the discussion regarding false detection of calls thru the database. To my understanding the WSPR operator has NO way to really find out whether the computer came to the right conclusion about the calls received, or whether it just judged by means of plausibility. We humans have no sense for phaseshift, that means we have to believe the machine. I think that the database in the background is like a walking stick for the blind. Of course it's a new and exciting technology, but I doubt that it is on one and the same level with a regular exchange and therefore should not be considered equally verifying a valid contact. My two pence worth de wolf df2py ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01CA6AA0.17A06660 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hel= lo group !

 

I= am not an expert with WSPR at all. But I followed the discussion regarding false detection= of calls thru the database.

To= my understanding the WSPR operator has NO way to really find out whether the computer came= to the right conclusion about the calls received, or whether it just judged= by means of plausibility. We humans have no sense for phaseshift, that means we= have to believe the machine.

I= think that the database in the background is like a walking stick for the blind.

Of= course it’s a new and exciting technology, but I doubt that it is on one and the same le= vel with a regular exchange and therefore should not be considered equally veri= fying a valid contact.

My= two pence worth   de wolf  df2py

 

------=_NextPart_000_0021_01CA6AA0.17A06660-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (rly-dg05.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.89]) by air-dg06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG062-5c84b0ab3ea2f6; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:10:33 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG055-5c84b0ab3ea2f6; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:10:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCbTZ-0001co-Hq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:09:17 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCbTZ-0001cf-3v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:09:17 +0000 Received: from mx30.mail.ru ([94.100.176.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCbTX-0003bz-GK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:09:17 +0000 Received: from [94.75.139.7] (port=65367 helo=[192.168.1.4]) by mx30.mail.ru with asmtp id 1NCbTR-000Cog-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:09:09 +0300 Message-ID: <4B0AB39A.6050807@mail.ru> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:08:58 +0300 From: Dmitry User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 SeaMonkey/1.1.18 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WPF 22-11.jpg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Henny Thank you for capture Dmitry RA3YO "Y" henny van elst wrote: > Hi LF, > capture WPF > Henny pa3cpm > 73s > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden > verzonden: > WPF 22-11.jpg > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me01.mx.aol.com (rly-me01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.34]) by air-me09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME093-9964af5977b18d; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:51:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME012-9964af5977b18d; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:51:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6nYF-0000n9-Js for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:50:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6nYE-0000n0-HA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:50:06 +0000 Received: from mx01.infotech.at ([213.174.240.1]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6nYC-00024C-O8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:50:06 +0000 Received: from [213.174.228.204] by mx01.infotech.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6nYB-0003zx-5l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:50:03 +0100 Message-ID: <4AF5975C.4090105@inext.at> Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:50:52 +0100 From: Oberreiter Oswald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C74A83BA@exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net> In-Reply-To: <254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C74A83BA@exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: tnx QSO OE5ODL - DD7PC, QRSS +/-137.705KHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Marco . ja danke auch ,das ging sehr gut dein signal war immer stabil also deine antenne arbeitet sehr gut ! um die 10 db uberm rauschen ok bis auf bald mal wieder . ausgangsleistung waren hier ca 140 watt . servus de ossi oe5odl jn68rd Scholz, Marco schrieb: > Hello Ossy, > many thanks again for fb random QSO an hour ago. > Very relaxed QSO with your OOO signal. > Conditions not perfect due some light rain this morning. > > vy73 > Marco > DD7PC, JN49ax > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de10.mx.aol.com (rly-de10.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.146]) by air-de03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE034-50d4af9db873cb; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:30:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE108-50d4af9db873cb; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:30:48 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7yHq-0000cl-PX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:30:02 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7yHq-0000cc-DN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:30:02 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7yH4-0000yg-LS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:29:15 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24BCD51C004 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:29:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA812F3862 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:29:51 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id 5927F18056; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:29:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from 245.103-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (245.103-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [87.64.103.245]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:29:51 +0100 Message-ID: <20091110222951.cr4qtrqagcwcowok@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:29:51 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <001101ca621e$dcdc3380$96949a80$@princeton.edu> <20091110192309.4v8agotbs0k0gocs@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <004a01ca6249$d91531e0$8b3f95a0$@princeton.edu> In-Reply-To: <004a01ca6249$d91531e0$8b3f95a0$@princeton.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 87.64.103.245 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: 500 kHz WSPR de VE1JF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Jim, > Not tonight, Rik--I am committed to compared 160 WSPR with VE2DC in > Quebec (who will also be > Participating in the 500 kHz experiments and has already copied an > M0 there); anyhow, I > Have to leave before 2200 for a meeting this evening. Tx is on 160 > WSPR and I'll turn spotting back > on as I leave the house. (Still dial-up around here, so it's either > internet or telephone!) > > Would be happy to do it some other evening, though! No problem, we will try another night. > How do you generate a WSPR signal on 500 kHz? Kenwood TS440 on 4.5MHz into a homebrew transverter 4.5MHz --> 500kHz + 50W PA 73, Rik ON7YD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (rly-mf05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.175]) by air-mf07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF072-95f4af6d42fba; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:22:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF055-95f4af6d42fba; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:22:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N78eO-0006bN-2v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:21:52 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N78eN-0006bE-LG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:21:51 +0000 Received: from mailout06.t-online.de ([194.25.134.19]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N78eL-0004pG-S0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:21:51 +0000 Received: from fwd09.aul.t-online.de by mailout06.t-online.de with smtp id 1N78eL-0004Tw-00; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:21:49 +0100 Received: from df2py (ECbsH0ZCwhDsHFcvFYuZKbXFBy5RWZuf-hsEvJGf2ygTJRBAQZiOVeogUOsfIEvZbP@[80.187.105.33]) by fwd09.t-online.de with esmtp id 1N78eG-1zJKls0; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:21:44 +0100 From: "Wolf Ostwald" To: References: <4AF67DB3.1020204@telus.net> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:23:21 +0100 Message-ID: <3A8796444EB74E3E82CA2F48F839559E@df2py> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcpgS4q9/X04O87aRrKFqmvMn3WQdgAMv5cg In-Reply-To: <4AF67DB3.1020204@telus.net> X-ID: ECbsH0ZCwhDsHFcvFYuZKbXFBy5RWZuf-hsEvJGf2ygTJRBAQZiOVeogUOsfIEvZbP X-TOI-MSGID: 204c3201-0ed5-48bb-bb49-2eb9b0ac6187 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.236,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: AW: DCF39 strong on west coast. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Scott ! Interesting about the signal from DCF in Germany. That transmitter is about 50 miles east of me. But on LF almost no chance for VE7. Are You doing any on 500 kcs ? That band is more of a chance for the westcoast. But as of yet I have not reached the east coast on 500 kc. But I am planning on good improvements for 500 kcs on the antenna side. Let me know if You do any 500 kcs obsrvations. 73 de wolf BTW : added pix of my 505.030 kc transmitter - beacon call is DI2BJ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (rly-dg06.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.90]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDG071-5ce4b1220b036b; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:20:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG061-5ce4b1220b036b; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:20:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEe3h-0008CJ-Kh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 07:19:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEe3h-0008CA-6K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 07:19:01 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f215.google.com ([209.85.220.215]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEe3g-0000ul-F2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 07:19:01 +0000 Received: by fxm7 with SMTP id 7so2352004fxm.29 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:18:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.103.126.33 with SMTP id d33mr1022978mun.109.1259479133863; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:18:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?93.85.193.49? ([93.85.193.49]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s11sm8628364mue.49.2009.11.28.23.18.53 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:18:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B12205C.5020501@tut.by> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 09:18:52 +0200 From: Andrej User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AA67@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> In-Reply-To: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AA67@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Stefan, LF Biggest signal on the band. RST was 559 but no answer on my calls. Maybe next time. Thanks for activity. 73! EW6GB in KO45CN From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da03.mx.aol.com (rly-da03.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.77]) by air-da03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA032-a5d4affd714d5; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:25:46 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA035-a5d4affd714d5; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:25:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9cHO-0005Ps-EE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:24:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9cHN-0005Pj-Vq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:24:21 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9cHN-0000FI-6t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:24:21 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C03E51C007 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:24:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 498C231E702 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:24:11 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id 8A1B018056; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:24:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from 130.15-180-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (130.15-180-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [91.180.15.130]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:24:10 +0100 Message-ID: <20091115112410.27d3dldtj44k4sk4@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:24:10 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 91.180.15.130 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Who / where is OR2ELN ?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Graham, the call OR2ELN does not exist if it is a pirate he is floating in the Indian Ocean somewhe half way between Madagascar and Heard Island. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting Graham : > 2009-11-14 23:14 OR2ELN 0.503908 -33 0 > MF03 501 G0NBD IO83 11740 326 > > Just decoded ? > > tnx - G > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da03.mx.aol.com (rly-da03.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.77]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDA054-a5b4b104ca72c5; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:03:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA033-a5b4b104ca72c5; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:03:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NE8tH-0007zk-Op for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 22:02:11 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NE8tH-0007zb-4L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 22:02:11 +0000 Received: from web63602.mail.re1.yahoo.com ([69.147.97.72]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NE8tE-0002a7-9M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 22:02:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 15734 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Nov 2009 22:02:02 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1259359322; bh=n1+ms4EhuGfVzZATb1TsgxkgBOFEuFFxW9GAlcO2w3w=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=sqZqk7SHRYQDtxwb4UDuJwfW3PfBf0LLbRlq7pjEsNyoyB54ZnTtnRsRaBvum4mu1RY4oF/aO2uusVbYw1+pNH9VzuVXwqj8DOh1Jl6FqdxaP8DW3PKVGP88pY8f+kP+c0T42q05aZCcbPoDiiKSLUSZWWVx43rVyNMMSIITgps= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=gJTkmtXSS7xRrWzIa+G0CdwiPa5G65EWPKG9FTvG0crNN+UUZH11A0USCTvyoG+TVlG2OA1JnAXd6JLlbGXJXLB6XKE+jgySQEA22i5udQVcN6prXFoMJklZvfdy5E/4usbOl8JthpXnF2JwDEjSuKjOHxbSRDGZWRkACMBgOZA=; Message-ID: <220029.15482.qm@web63602.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: WljtUMsVM1kXzKxXPKIF7QVfo_bE7vpRwAZ9fCIXP6MVe68BwtfYMNfaOeiJdfKqS.WrOjvraofbfwK9qqOMgno44bWn8ijTXuXgwsFnKaKQz4CCDt_GKrFJTaJl0.ka9brGsNoxVUDWzGEVlSY1IULUhBzSlaVhpl1bSK.8KMmFZiyU2uS3C2D3PsnWhkw4VCZ5nzN4WazMF2xOiXvqjrAIZY_5857pK5Zkwpd0Kj70qYZQjWdcpCPNi8MSrlL1jdOlubn5wbc.iX.tv5DnUmDLhqcq3h0JuM1z.GftY7S0MIAPTAb.nLFfTn.rt2GQtGBb0J0z2kwO8Ebe6bs5JAmqEh4KO8zD88LRG08jziarMoDZXfunBaIu8USea0IiSAAO7JUojMDM1TsuqCoU5zOm.Q.3KzlSjyXo3s5SPr0Tw7pG2ZBRCicKrlBuS_rdiETDjILN7h7m4EI2IXl4sZz_ScSUZk2U7qD_v85.oEJ8.7Raxazks1F497ncQOyw6aVsJU.xevFxObX8v6m0WID5ZLAQ Received: from [98.70.122.172] by web63602.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:02:01 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:02:01 -0800 (PST) From: Andy - KU4XR To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, lowfer@mailman.qth.net In-Reply-To: <004301ca6fa2$2fb1d890$0900a8c0@lark> MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: How do I use Spectrum Lab as a VLF Soft Receiver ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d291.2 ; domain : yahoo.com DKIM : pass Thanks to all for the responses so far. My current interest is to use the sound card as if it were a receiver, and software to make it work like one. I have downloaded " WINRAD " ( Win98SE version ), and will=20 experiment with it this weekend. =20 A note on the web address for the software; the weak signals.com=20 link does not work, but google-ing " WINRAD " found this address=20 that is correct. http://www.sdrham.com/ I am still interested in any and all comments, suggestions, user experiences, and so on. Thank you in advance for any replies. 73 all ::: Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN. LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 185.29866 KHz ( QRSS-60 ) Coordinates: N: 35* 43' 54" - W: 84* 3' 16" http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr http://webpages.charter.net/ku4xr/ --- On Fri, 11/27/09, Alan Melia wrote: > From: Alan Melia > Subject: LF: Re: How do I use Spectrum Lab as a VLF Soft Receiver ? > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Friday, November 27, 2009, 3:42 PM > I am not sure about this you need to > scour the help files but the SID > receiver is not meant for listening to it is to produce a > sig-strength v > time plot. You might need some fairly crafty software > connection for Spec > Lab Wolf will maybe reply he does monitor. >=20 > As an easy alternative try WinRad by Alberto > www.weaksignals.com and just > stick a wire into the mic input and you get a full SDR > receiver. I am not > sure you get sound out even then you may be Virtual Audio > Cable, or perhaps > Alberto has a hook in the code now. The thing is you are > using the card > twice....once to pruduce the receiver and again to produce > the audio output. > I cant check at the moment I am still in the process of > loading up this PC. >=20 > Best Wishes > Alan G3NYK >=20 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andy - KU4XR" > To: ; > > Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 7:14 PM > Subject: LF: How do I use Spectrum Lab as a VLF Soft > Receiver ? >=20 >=20 > > Hello All: > > > > I have recently been trying to get a soundcard VLF > receiver > > going. I found a SAQ receiver on the web designed by > > Johan - SM6LKM. It works good I suppose never having > tried > > this before. I can hear " Radio noise " in other > words, it > > actually sounds like a receiver. When I connect > enough > > coils in series, with a variable cap to ground to make > a > > pre-selector, The noise floor will rise 20 dB when I > tune > > the Cap. and you can see the peak move across the > spectrum > > display. However, that's as far as you can go, You > can't > > choose a sound card, it automatically chooses the > windows > > default card, and I haven't found a way to use DSP > filtering > > with it, since everything is based on the sound card > alone. > > > > Now for Spectrum Lab, It has a built in " SID " > receiver, > > and the built in DSP filters work in the program. I > just can't > > get it to work !!!!! All I can get is low freq. hum, > or > > digital noise. It makes no difference with or without > an Ant. > > I've changed sound card sample rates, and FFT > settings, > > nothing works for me. > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions for me to try=A0 > ?? Thank you. > > > > 73 to all ::: > > =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (rly-dc06.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.35]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC031-b2c4af1ab5f1; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 11:27:30 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC068-b2c4af1ab5f1; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 11:27:13 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N5igE-0006ac-8e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:25:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N5igD-0006aT-PI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:25:53 +0000 Received: from mail-yx0-f203.google.com ([209.85.210.203]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N5ieu-0003Bm-JX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:24:33 +0000 Received: by yxe41 with SMTP id 41so18457830yxe.30 for ; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:25:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=u+iZq4w35go21CO6G/Zt8V5tvxBhKTm0TzL1DjZP470=; b=WYpb7fVamQl6bhMAHkBP/1dG5Z/LmE+B3wUqconrIwWJ6xAtHCRGY8ynb8k99pt6hI H6YpEw69eg+gdGrqtGu48r9xUvA+SSIzbXW/7+ZsZ18SlvH5JxvAFNPxdrL0ZSMfoKeu vPlYXkHVtMDyC2PhzKaUl1VLKhjE6mbSvE4Uo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=A4PldThh3q3f70ggRgikDPoXEX8oG5B/U7HAeWbX0k4w9/LOYm7ETi3K76Ah8lXALH qn4AEdvJjDSyup754sP4WIfo2ogISgCItsvc7GATNGK2c1DjvWaQVOYANuaLy/twi2+L DKb9dDWJD/YoPBQ+CSkNkNxNn92wZbYTh3gBM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.77.41 with SMTP id z41mr3079142yba.126.1257351945665; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:25:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 11:25:45 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70911040825i8280573r7c52559a04b70d6c@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: ukmicrowaves@yahoogroups.com X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: "Poisson, Shannon, and the Radio Amateur" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d284.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Andy, I can get a copy from the M.I.T. library but it may be a few days before I get over there... --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Andy Talbot wr= ote: > I'm trying to get hold of a copy of this paper from 50 years ago. > Does anyone have a scanned in version? > The only web reference I managed to find pointed to a site > ( http://tinyurl.com/d5bdo=A0)=A0 that=A0no longer works. > > Costas J.P.; > "Poisson, Shannon, and the Radio Amateur" > Proc. IRE,=A0=A0 vol 47, pp. 2058-2068, Dec 1959. > > Tnx in advance... > > Andy > www.g4jnt.com > > this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny state > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD061-b994af5d3271c6; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:06:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD093-b994af5d3271c6; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:06:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6rWv-0001OK-81 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:05:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6rWu-0001OB-Kp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:05:00 +0000 Received: from mail-pz0-f179.google.com ([209.85.222.179]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6rVs-0006Zf-HV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:03:57 +0000 Received: by pzk9 with SMTP id 9so1281708pzk.16 for ; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:04:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0MNXpYQCr7MX62OZe2E68fRpuMz7rPMqu1f4scFytI8=; b=fRGlwFJB838C5Lj2TqYiJsZ1vU+F4lqeNxic8QXJ7rZStL6SxEYoGHcS1iZiYIMIQ6 xEjPuTj8fDaEuzAGEnOU1DSmopwucnRqy4MJtfGzcm2SGN5ZOZA2ZAwqHR6xiwRtA5rA gmYx8WVBPPhczmutgPmyeUpn+i/AH4G7TtonQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=vk2NLs5rohyoZbZ4YrFfiqlGjvFOcgM53ftKNWHwtD7tkkZ71OBnfNtfIp3kIS7GSS RJsuV3w5Ma30jiyn6LX99EbiMtJgL/G92z6xoXyBH/miTSCVGZAZWrq8xfpZ6IMBRbd1 uqUxqehS/IZe03nHmprNH+oaAVWaU9jIjB1pM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.20.10 with SMTP id x10mr321170rvi.44.1257624292060; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:04:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:04:52 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 79722a1be62da5d7 Message-ID: <1f0624b90911071204u56968320r1544ecb29999c60a@mail.gmail.com> From: Gary - G4WGT To: Rsgb_Lf_Group X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: G4WGT grabbers (again) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd1a35e306ff20477cd7915 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m214.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0cd1a35e306ff20477cd7915 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi LF & all grabber watchers, G4WGT grabbers back on after a traumatic wrestle with PC problems which turned out to be virus infections, two trojans & a backdoor virus infection of six files & a registry entry. Seems to be OK now, time will tell. Cheers, Gary - G4WGT. --000e0cd1a35e306ff20477cd7915 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi LF & all grabber watchers,

G4WGT grabbers back on after a traumatic wrestle with PC problems which turned out to be virus infections, two trojans & a backdoor virus infection of six files & a registry entry.

Seems to be OK now, time will tell.

Cheers,

Gary - G4WGT.
--000e0cd1a35e306ff20477cd7915-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD101-b6e4b01a8b32b1; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:32:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD038-b6e4b01a8b32b1; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:32:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA7I8-000844-1H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:31:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA7I7-00083v-Lc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:31:11 +0000 Received: from mail-yw0-f193.google.com ([209.85.211.193]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA7I6-0002SF-Qg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:31:11 +0000 Received: by ywh31 with SMTP id 31so13425021ywh.30 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:31:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=a3xVJO+jlk3IbNyIRR9RL3A+bU2dCT/H5lOQ/dYjOpw=; b=TskFxq2oJplAHJLbrJd5uiX+N+3EIMPi9oLCSN4+FVHuHJZkNNOjLX89l/c+t56eFR oPS9NT+/P/VogW2uP9sPKdpNRjV8TszBy5w6s5/+Gc7+UJUtf28VJsH8WANeF92G/gkY jw9ethxYwTndBujKYz92nsPRNCDmKWeuvEZ/k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=aq2E6tGYVoluwFzrftKS+oTpo/Ata5mzWuuksVKFBbUd0xhtVlPMM1n8ebqSMJmqlv j1hdYZNnxXP2mDnyhWHZnZlQ+FMB5Z+y3uewT3hccc27V3ngE47NRA9//GdX7R9e2RnD SZXvziaI1rM0hnet/BVbOv3tGKg56+/iqgvM4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.141.131 with SMTP id c3mr793186hba.44.1258399863185; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:31:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:31:03 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: WSPR Entry Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m223.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Found in the database. Two consecutive hits with the same details suggests an incorrectly set station.. Uraguay, in Central Africa !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2009-11-16 19:06=A0=A0CW5PPT=A0=A00.503997=A0=A0-30=A0=A03=A0=A0KJ31=A0=A0= +53=A0=A0199.526=A0=A0G4WGT IO83qo=A0=A06399=A0=A03976 2009-11-16 19:06=A0=A0CW5PPT=A0=A00.503849=A0=A0-15=A0=A03=A0=A0KJ31=A0=A0= +53=A0=A0199.526=A0=A0G4WGT IO83qo=A0=A06399=A0=A03976 Andy www.g4jnt.com this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny state From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD054-b5f4b05823c106; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:37:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD021-b5f4b05823c106; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:37:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBAvM-0001Ze-LJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:36:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBAvM-0001ZV-A1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:36:04 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBAvL-0000yy-9a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:36:04 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA0474C81CE for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:35:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id F03E34C81FF for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:35:56 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B0581FC.5060203@online.fr> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:35:56 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Lubos, Warren, Yes very good signals of Warren last night ! It's a pity that the 137 Khz is forsaken more and more with the profit from the 500 Khz ! I think this winter of adding to my grabber ( in the place of the European window ) the band of the American beacons on 500 Khz . Warren , think that it will be useful to monitor the beacons of the American continent ? 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj Lubos OK2BVG a =E9crit : > Hello Warren, Jean-Pierre, LF! > The XGJ signal was very nice last night (but I had opened a window and= my RX drifted abt 0.1Hz, HI!) > > 73! > > Lubos, OK2BVG > =20 > _________________________________________________________________ > Nov=E1 Windows 7: Kter=FD po=E8=EDta=E8 je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD? Dal=B9= =ED informace. > http://windows.microsoft.com/shop > =20 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df09.mx.aol.com (rly-df09.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.22]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF011-5744b040b4e24d; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:57:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF091-5744b040b4e24d; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:57:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAlwt-0002WN-IB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:55:59 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAlwt-0002WE-3E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:55:59 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAlwr-00024l-Ib for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:55:59 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 569767B8048 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:55:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from PC_van_Rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-106.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.106]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BE5D31E702 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:55:34 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:55:33 +0100 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <20091118102656.11BAD31E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> References: <20091118085815.7282031E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <477782.43526.qm@web28104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <20091118102656.11BAD31E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091118145534.2BE5D31E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_10_20=0.945,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500kHz in Belgium Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_25774859==.ALT" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --=====================_25774859==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed All, over the past weeks I received several questions wether ECC Recommendation T/R 61-01 includes 501-504kHz in Belgium. I asked BIPT (our Ofcom, FCC, ...) and received this answer (in Dutch) : Een buitenlandse titularis van een HAREC vergunning mag onder dezelfde voorwaarden als de Belgische radioamateurs alle toegelaten klassen van uitzending en alle frequenties gebruiken. Dan mag hij ook de frequentieband 501-504 kHz gebruiken. English translation: A foreign holder of a HAREC licence may operate under the same conditions as Belgian radio amateurs, using all approved modes and frequencies. This includes the frequency range 501-504kHz. So it is legal to operate as ON/PAxxx/P, ON/Fxxxx/P, ON/Gxxxx/P etc. Restrictions (that of course also apply to our foreign guests): - 501-504kHz - NIB - max. 5W EIRP (not ERP !) - max. 100Hz bandwidth - only telegraphy (as per ITU definition, thus includes digital text modes) 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T --=====================_25774859==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" All,

over the past weeks I received several questions wether ECC Recommendation T/R 61-01 includes 501-504kHz in Belgium.

I asked BIPT (our Ofcom, FCC, ...) and received this answer (in Dutch) :

Een buitenlandse titularis van een HAREC vergunning mag onder dezelfde voorwaarden als de Belgische radioamateurs alle toegelaten klassen van uitzending en alle frequenties gebruiken.
Dan mag hij ook de frequentieband 501-504 kHz gebruiken.

English translation:
A foreign holder of a HAREC licence may operate under the same conditions as Belgian radio amateurs, using all approved modes and frequencies.
This includes the frequency range 501-504kHz.

So it is legal to operate as ON/PAxxx/P, ON/Fxxxx/P, ON/Gxxxx/P etc.
Restrictions (that of course also apply to our foreign guests):
- 501-504kHz
- NIB
- max. 5W EIRP (not ERP !)
- max. 100Hz bandwidth
- only telegraphy (as per ITU definition, thus includes digital text modes)

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T --=====================_25774859==.ALT-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg01.mx.aol.com (rly-dg01.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.85]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG071-59f4b01d08b49; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:22:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG014-59f4b01d08b49; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:22:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA9vv-0000Vl-L5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:20:27 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA9vv-0000Vc-3i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:20:27 +0000 Received: from mx30.mail.ru ([94.100.176.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA9vt-0002hz-AV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:20:27 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=11146 helo=EFREMOV) by mx30.mail.ru with asmtp id 1NA9vl-000F7y-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:20:17 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <001c01ca670a$f7e34100$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: References: <1f0624b90911160805u4435bd18ue805924594d8b997@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:20:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: Re: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Gary, LF, WE2XGR/6?? I now hear SM6BHZ on the same frequency, RST569. cw / a long dash / voice 73 Andrey > Hi All, > > Good signals from both stations last night. > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo. > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb05.mx.aol.com (rly-mb05.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.163]) by air-mb06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB064-d084b059379f8; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:50:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB054-d084b059379f8; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:50:35 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBC4Z-0002Cb-Iu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:49:39 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBC4Z-0002CS-4U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:49:39 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBC4W-00047Y-UB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:49:39 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3412.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A1AFB1C00084 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:49:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3412.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 93C3D1C00085 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:49:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.37.171]) by mwinf3412.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 4BB421C00084 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:49:31 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091119184931310.4BB421C00084@mwinf3412.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <233D94BE69984F809585D246593DD1ED@AGB> From: "Graham" To: Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:49:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: T61AA Monitoring 502.4 >> NOW<< Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004E_01CA6949.06F10BB0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01CA6949.06F10BB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All. The real thing .. take two ..=20 Qsp of email sent to day from Ross ... in Kandahar=20 Graham, At 17:25Z I have put the IC7000 on 502.4KHz overnight and will see if= I can Rx any signals at all. I know it's a long shot as I would bet= that the performance of the ICOM would be very average at that freque= ncy, but here's hoping. 73 Ross ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01CA6949.06F10BB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
All.
 
The  real thing   ..= take two=20 .. 
 
Qsp of  email sent  to = ; day =20 from Ross  ... in Kandahar
 
Graham,

At 17:25Z I have put the IC7000 on 502.4KHz overni= ght and=20 will see if I can Rx any signals at all. I know it's a long shot as I= would bet=20 that the performance of the ICOM would be very average at that frequen= cy, but=20 here's hoping.

73

Ross


------=_NextPart_000_004E_01CA6949.06F10BB0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA071-8cd4b0922601ab; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:37:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA097-8cd4b0922601ab; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:37:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCAjh-0002Hv-MO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:36:09 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCAjh-0002Hm-41 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:36:09 +0000 Received: from out1.ip02ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.238]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCAjf-0003hh-Nj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:36:09 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAO+wCEtZ8PWp/2dsb2JhbADSeYQ8BA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,266,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="119228197" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([89.240.245.169]) by out1.ip02ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 22 Nov 2009 11:36:02 +0000 Message-ID: <006e01ca6b67$f7076160$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <1258889421.4b0920cd3e42f@imp.netikka.net> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:35:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: G3KEV calling CQ in CW on 137.0kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Tnx Paul for the report. Not much cw acty this morning. I saw OH1TN a few evenings ago on DFCW 137.7 de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul-Henrik" To: Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 11:30 AM Subject: LF: G3KEV calling CQ in CW on 137.0kHz Mal, LF Great signal from you on 137.0kHz normal CW at 1125UTC here in Vaasa KP03SD. Antenna is a PA0RDT Mini-Whip 10m AGL and IC-R75 with no CW filter, just the PBT to keep the bandedge powerhouse signals out. 73 Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ Vaasa / KP03SD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG073-9fb4b083a7dd8; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:08:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG025-9fb4b083a7dd8; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:07:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBvHx-00006F-Js for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:06:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBvHx-000066-7K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:06:29 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f211.google.com ([209.85.220.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBvHw-0001O9-Id for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:06:29 +0000 Received: by fxm3 with SMTP id 3so4779372fxm.4 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:06:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=/Cv6UwYLhyqz4bUW2gp+iUfuMwDet9zF3R70cMhj9+M=; b=FekISS268bdys6Bf4P15K3fvV1W2FIGtb9mkHa4ese9S0l3OMCNH0TIZKTr3IRC5VF 9JRvSop4yPo7ChdjKJvgYAQKjy35bjblBknvF11wtNiAZOZgLNIA3ydj3+0o+2V66OD9 WHzB3rnteL5YJzS4smXk0RcLTXsdF2claaEHI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZgRogauYJOG2DsnKPO1GLgj0Z4uOIZLCv9PARjEDSaN8LG1+3Tg3lumVO8N2CeQbaO Zn0w0NosIeV23hJr0XQO7kiyhKjxKAUCcBIPXDHFMBH8jCyh/aZnThdXpVoB13+/FmFU /gikbpzJnijyjlI7H7enR/asXSZ/yhjVnF8/g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.168.220 with SMTP id l28mr289898hbe.117.1258830381911; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:06:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B082AE0.80607@usa.net> References: <4B07ABA4.4060102@online.fr> <4B082AE0.80607@usa.net> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:06:21 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m234.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) And usually based on lack of understanding / ignorance or even prejudice. Andy www.g4jnt.com This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health and safety police 2009/11/21 Alberto di Bene : >> Of course it=92s a new and exciting technology, but I doubt that it is= on >> one >>> >>> and the same level with a regular exchange and therefore should not be >>> considered equally verifying a valid contact. > > Shades of the recurring and silly debates that every now and then happen= on > the Moon-net reflector... > > 73 =A0Alberto =A0I2PHD > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me09.mx.aol.com (rly-me09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.43]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME031-9dc4b069789f; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:20:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME098-9dc4b069789f; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:20:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBTO4-0006E5-Sq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:18:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBTO4-0006Dw-HM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:18:56 +0000 Received: from out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.243]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBTO3-0007fu-Vy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:18:56 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmQFANclBktcHbKv/2dsb2JhbACCJSyGS4RqBsYwhDwE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,777,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="241821119" Received: from unknown (HELO your91hoehfy9g) ([92.29.178.175]) by out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 20 Nov 2009 13:18:33 +0000 Message-ID: <004101ca69e3$f6f3dcb0$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:18:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: QRV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003E_01CA69E3.F6BAA440" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01CA69E3.F6BAA440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LF Now QRV agn on LF any QRG also all other bands 500 K/cs up, XBAND work= ing what ever takes your fancy de malg3kev =20 ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01CA69E3.F6BAA440 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
LF
Now QRV agn on LF any QRG also= all other bands=20 500 K/cs up, XBAND working what ever takes your fancy
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------=_NextPart_000_003E_01CA69E3.F6BAA440-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df08.mx.aol.com (rly-df08.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.21]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDF014-56d4b1293d02c6; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:31:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF084-56d4b1293d02c6; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:31:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEljJ-0001ZA-Hv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:30:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEljJ-0001Z1-3x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:30:29 +0000 Received: from out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.240]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEljG-00037g-Rl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:30:29 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAL4iEktOkihC/2dsb2JhbADTDYQxBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,308,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="126499200" Received: from unknown (HELO TraceyPC) ([78.146.40.66]) by out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 29 Nov 2009 15:30:21 +0000 Message-ID: <52516CDBD5F74732BD66C5264DE11E7B@TraceyPC> From: "Tracey Gardner" To: References: <2746F3E144D3480AB85CD466920B1313@lindavideo> <003001ca70e7$24aaf3a0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <003c01ca70eb$0aa52120$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <4B126AF9.3050300@ntlworld.com> <7FC548B8EA774499A7E2BBC7DDDBD743@lindavideo> In-Reply-To: <7FC548B8EA774499A7E2BBC7DDDBD743@lindavideo> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:30:18 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv diode Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Ken How about these on ebay? 4pcs 1 Amp 10kV High Voltage Rectifier Item number:250539436700 Tracey Hello Everyone. Thanks for the replies, I have some BY255's which are rated at 1300v at 1A, the input to the diode stack is about 2.3KV peak, and was planning to use two BY255s in series in each of the four legs, of the full wave bridge, the problem is most resistors are only rated at 500v, hence using a single diode would remove the need for resistors. With resistors rated at 500v, this would require 16 diodes, and there is not that amount of space. Next question does anyone know of a source of 470K resistore rated at 1KV? these are rare and expensive animals 73 Ken M0KHW ----- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb07.mx.aol.com (rly-mb07.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.165]) by air-mb08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB082-d1a4b00283a230; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:11:47 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB076-d1a4b00283a230; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:11:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9hga-0007YQ-4L for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:10:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9hgZ-0007YH-MY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:10:43 +0000 Received: from smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.34]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9hgZ-0001h0-2U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:10:43 +0000 Received: from [192.168.178.20] (a82-95-116-115.adsl.xs4all.nl [82.95.116.115]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nAFGATTP015221 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:10:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nl9222@xs4all.nl) Message-ID: <4B0027F5.3060603@xs4all.nl> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:10:29 +0100 From: Ko Versteeg User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000a01ca65ec$16f199e0$6402a8c0@e7010> In-Reply-To: <000a01ca65ec$16f199e0$6402a8c0@e7010> X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: DI2AG WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Walter und Marianne Staubach wrote: > Dear MF, > DI2AG is already on air in WSPR. QRG 505.090KHz, PWR 0.4W ERP. > Duty cycle 33%. The beacon will be busy until tomorrow morning. > 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF Walter 1546 -28 1.4 0.505089 0 DI2AG JN59 27 73 de Ko, NL9222 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (rly-mf07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.177]) by air-mf03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF032-9714b02c2bc26; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:36:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF077-9714b02c2bc26; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:35:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAQ4l-0003ZU-4I for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:34:39 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAQ4k-0003ZL-NO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:34:38 +0000 Received: from gv-out-0910.google.com ([216.239.58.189]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAQ4i-0000We-39 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:34:38 +0000 Received: by gv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c6so31268gvd.38 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:34:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lElWMi1MKFPMMcveYFXYmu+XL6WCloqvjLJCwWL3oUM=; b=Ov/acmALVoW2m/bJPDDyhFYmo0GvhldzEPe43sZOmzWM/LE2lQ7rWwYOPWIUhlqYqF 1O7tdcwqFX6qhPeCzMMB6TfgaPyqGfbRR0SkkTEQg1nM7sjbxdvfA/eySvrsvuQokYoK WY4UWlMlFdyfjHKpIJ2hV4Ktow3rUl5ZAkEPg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=uYSNekcDobeqNUFWvLS1CBW2+2Ny9hq4PRdgogUCchV9/LtKFw1tJVlkWhHQFJRk8K wAxsMrya0ArAZd6BYTzUbNzpzgUz0UNMK9mW/E9i8wwTGjkRHcKg7JggE2s0x6y4Ddew LJgd6qqJ/e45SWmHlKzX/wHkJFkAcv0a9/aZc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.88.68 with SMTP id z46mr1291793wee.27.1258472072282; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:34:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B02BF9E.5020701@sighthound.demon.co.uk> References: <9afca2640911170243q3b4e2c95kb2668b937e727070@mail.gmail.com> <4B02BF9E.5020701@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:34:32 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911170734u7ebc121em5be88d61d99be249@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 136kHz WSPR tests Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6daa82bd4046b047892dcac X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m251.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0016e6daa82bd4046b047892dcac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 John, If *you *manage to hear me on 136kHz I shall eat my hat. ...but then I nearly said that last time about 500kHz!! 73s Roger G3XBM 2009/11/17 John P-G > Roger Lapthorn wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> Very encouraged by my results at 500kHz, I'd like to try some "low ERP" >> WSPR >> tests on 136kHz using the same small antenna and transverter (slightly >> modified). >> > > Let me know and I'll be watching! > > Cheers, > > John > GM4SLV > > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --0016e6daa82bd4046b047892dcac Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John,

If you manage to hear me on 136kHz I shall eat my hat.=

...but then I nearly said that last time about 500kHz!!

73= s
Roger G3XBM

2009/11/17 John P-G <gm4slv= @sighthound.demon.co.uk>
Roger Lapthorn wrote:
Dear all,

Very encouraged by my results at 500kHz, I'd like to try some "lo= w ERP" WSPR
tests on 136kHz using the same small antenna and transverter (slightly
modified). =A0

Let me know and I'll be watching!

Cheers,

John
GM4SLV





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--0016e6daa82bd4046b047892dcac-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md09.mx.aol.com (rly-md09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.147]) by air-md09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD094-9234af99a3f229; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:52:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD093-9234af99a3f229; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:52:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7tw5-0007iV-5T for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:51:17 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7tw4-0007iM-8C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:51:16 +0000 Received: from mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.47]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7tw1-00049F-AA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:51:15 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.1]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091110165103.IJEX17029.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:51:03 +0000 Received: from [86.27.93.99] (helo=jimdesk) by know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7tvr-0001X7-5x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:51:03 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: References: <112811.74996.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:51:02 -0000 Message-ID: <001b01ca6225$fcddd970$0617aac0@jimdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcpiINQToSU7wEkKQHmDg4eEikIZ8AABKCwg In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=BrDiTsk0AAAA:8 a=7SUOJ3FXqzo1KRNUzJgA:9 a=-UcIB5lNXIbxxTcHJJ4A:7 a=mvIZf1s4sJK0hRxpNAzNZdDAvM4A:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=-hJg1tCh9CgA:10 a=2llyaNObDIKQpFp6:21 a=SlLI6sKykdeB7QPi:21 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=CYiFMeZMVgHEJpznr_4A:9 a=cCtWWWqZFpP-zI1x0sQA:7 a=8q-Wtrl27hofp8XCdV2WJKne534A:4 a=4l3E1rQGdpsTfl5N:21 a=oLAabBPkp1OEkRHz:21 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001C_01CA6225.FCDDD970" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING, LINES_OF_YELLING_2 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01CA6225.FCDDD970 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Dennis I did not realize I was causing you QRM. A quick e-mail would have alerted me to it, rather than me being a "pain". I'm happy to work out a compromise where we operate at separate times or if you suggest a different frequency for me to work on. Just drop me a line with your ideas on this. With best regards Jim Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of DENNIS EASTERLING Sent: 10 November 2009 16:13 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Congratulations Chris. Most wspr stations seem to congregate at the top end of the band and are not too much trouble. Jim G7NKS is the biggest pain as he sits on my xtl frequency and is so close. Maybe a compromise would be for people using beacons to keep to one segment of the band (hopefully not 502.2 kHz -hee) 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Osborn To: LF Group Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 6:03 PM Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO LF It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m. This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 600m / 80m. Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0CF - No. 998. QSO break-down according to mode: 928 CW, 34 RTTY and 5 QRSS 600m STATIONS My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many of these go back to the start of the UK 600m allocation in March 2007. Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding beacons). Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of again: G3KZU, G3YHV . . . Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT: G3UNT, G3VTT, G4GDR. . . MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the same stations many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of my total contacts. My most frequently worked stations are: GW3UEP - 120 G3KEV - 102 M0FMT - 90 G3ZWH - 80 (alas now SK) G3DXZ - 67 G4GDR - 60 EI0CF/ GI4DPE - 51 M0JXM - 48 G3UNT - 45 G3VTT - 38 CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a cross-band QSO: DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . . and our few EU MF friends are still active: ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . . WSPR ON 600m I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for the WSPR mode was never achieved for hand sent Morse (CW), which after all is the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF marine band. If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stations operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band then I guess it may be time for me to QSY. 73 Chris G3XIZ ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01CA6225.FCDDD970 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Dennis<= /o:p>

 

I did not reali= ze I was causing you QRM.  A quick e-mail would have alerted me to it, rather than me being a ̶= 0;pain”.   I’m happy to work out a compromise where we operate at separate times or= if you suggest a different frequency for me to work on. Just drop me a line= with your ideas on this.

 

With best regar= ds

 

 

Jim=

 

 

Dr. James Cowbu= rn G7NKS

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org [mailto:owner-= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of DENNIS EASTERLING
Sent: 10 November 2009= 16:13
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: G3XIZ= - 1000 th MF QSO

 

Congratulations Chris.

 

Most wspr stations seem to congregate= at the top end of the band and are not too much trouble.    Jim G7NKS is the= biggest pain as he sits on my xtl frequency and is so close.   Maybe= a compromise would be for people using beacons to keep to one segment of= the band (hopefully not 502.2 kHz -hee)

 

73 Dennis M0JXM

----- Original Message -----

From: Chris Osborn

To: LF Group

Sent:= Sunday, November 08, 2009 6:03 PM

Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO

 

LF

It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m.<= br> This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 600m= / 80m.

Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0C= F - No. 998.

QSO break-down according to mode:     928 CW,  34 RTTY  and   5 QRSS

600m STATIONS

My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many of these go back to= the start of the UK  600m allocation in March 2007.
Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding= beacons).
Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of again:  G3KZU, G3YHV . . .
Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT:  G3U= NT, G3VTT, G4GDR. . .

MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED

With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the same= stations many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of my total contact= s.
My most frequently worked stations are:

GW3UEP - 120     G3KEV - 102   &nbs= p;  M0FMT - 90     G3ZWH  -  80  (alas= now SK)
G3DXZ    -   67     G4GDR -   60      EI0CF/ GI4DPE  -&n= bsp; 51   M0JXM - 48
G3UNT    -   45     G3VTT=   -   38

CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS

There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a cros= s-band QSO:
DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . .

and our few EU MF friends are still active:
ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . .

WSPR ON 600m

I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for the= WSPR mode was never achieved for  hand sent Morse (CW), which after all is= the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF marine band.
If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stations= operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band then I guess= it may be time for me to QSY.

73 Chris G3XIZ






 

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Hi Lubos J-P LF
Also here signal from XKO
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
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K68l9dcVM1ni97ZVZA_oi0eduBaxQqFTNPOouu9Mu_9Pt6MMJ2CQyAqtIl4NDA6QEAKf_oqYRhHjSWQhiUF3na9wKqbYDIB0qIUog0jeAK4NpYUS.JBmXAbTgqbUpwHq6YxCi8sQb05vmYpM3LexpxEHoHpGAqpNrQt0ZXdlEenaNfX58vfeBEpfErQEZ21qtioSRyYfEvcrOe0c4hiuBzuE5tGtY7C_r4bCjwmJmNfh0btK8TvvCmo9_VKvCkAp5lUwPwmU6mXi7F5hr54RqEP_tITA1Ui6_Ma7fPppnTWKb.Nvi71OeuSjpqGYllI2SlRwuhuwk4oE9w-- Received: from [86.140.72.194] by web28104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:42:19 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:42:19 -0800 (PST) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <20091118085815.7282031E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1037354559-1258537339=:43526" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d226.1 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-1037354559-1258537339=:43526 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Rik and LF =A0 In Jim's case he has two sidebands indicative of AM modulation and you are= right they are about 30 odd dBs down on the carrier. Not too bad suppress= ion by 1950's standards.... hee hee. Where only one side band is reported= on the data base is probably becuase the reporting station is having the= =A0 (say) lower side band clipped by having a slightly high dial frequency= offset. =A0 I have some JPEG files for the test we did yesterday if you would like to= see them I will send off reflector. You may see something that could help= Jim solve this issue. =A0 73 petefmt --- On Wed, 18/11/09, Rik Strobbe wrote: From: Rik Strobbe Subject: Re: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 8:58 Hello Jim, LF group, I have noticed "double receptions" of my WSPR signal from a number of=20 stations. When it occurred the ghost signal was always 100Hz higher=20 and was 33-36dB weaker. As the frequency shift and signal strength difference was the same at=20 the different RX stations I conclude that the cause was with me. I think that it is just some AM modulation in the PA caused by the=20 100Hz ripple of the PSU. 73, Rik=A0 ON7YD - OR7T At 02:13 18/11/2009, you wrote: >Dear Jim LF Group, > >Looking at the sidebands on the G7NKS WSPR signals, mains hum or other no= ise >by itself is not a sufficient explanation of what is seen. Simply adding >50Hz, 150Hz, etc. noise into the PC audio channel, then feeding the resul= t >into an SSB TX would give unwanted CW at frequencies offset from the SSB >carrier frequency by +/-50Hz, 150Hz and so on, i.e. with the carrier "dia= l >frequency" at 502.4kHz, unmodulated carriers would appear at 502.45kHz, >502.55kHz and so on, in addition to the WSPR signal at around 503.9kHz. >However, these would probably largely be removed by the SSB filter in the >rig. Instead, we see unwanted sidebands offset from the wanted WSPR signa= l >frequency by +/- 50Hz, 150Hz, with identical modulation to the wanted >signal. This requires some sort of non-linear process to cause the >intermodulation between the presumed mains noise and the WSPR signal >somewhere in the TX chain. > >One possibility is that intermodulation occurs in the PA. Jim's descripti= on >suggests that he is persuading the HF PA in the IC735 to produce output= at >500k. At this frequency, the PA linearity may well be poor due to the >impedance matching, coupling, decoupling and feedback components in the= PA >being wrong for the frequency, and high flux densities occuring in ferrit= e >components due to the low operating frequency. But this wouldn't explain= why >Jim also gets multiple received signals from a strong station with a clea= n >signal, which implies some identical noise source and distortion in the >receive path. It would also mean the mains noise getting through the >filtering in the rig somehow. > >A possibility that would explain the unwanted sidebands appearing on both= TX >and RX signals is if one of the oscillators in the system has mains noise >sidebands. The sound card clock seems unlikely, since this is just a simp= le >crystal oscillator. I see the IC735 has some sort of multi-loop PLL >synthesiser, which would certainly be prone to this type of spurious sign= al, >since any kind of mains noise getting in would modulate the VCO frequenci= es, >and would probably be the same on transmit and receive. This could be >checked by receiving a clean carrier somewhere around 500kHz, and examini= ng >the audio output using Spec Lab or Argo or similar to see if 50Hz and 150= Hz >sidebands are present on the received audio tone. > >Cheers, Jim Moritz >73 de M0BMU > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "James Cowburn" >To: >Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:26 PM >Subject: LF: rule #2 - assumption is the brother of all foul ups > > > > LF > > > > > > > > Sidebands are back!=A0 I think its caused by my TX getting hot and bot= hered > > by > > struggling at 500.=A0 From cold it txs 50 watts but this soon drops ba= ck to > > around 35, and the sidebands appear.=A0 My sigs are better so having= the > > txfr > > outside the shack and at the antenna is a vast improvement, but I now= need > > to work on the cooling. =20 --0-1037354559-1258537339=:43526 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am with Mal.  WSPR has no place on the UK 501 / 504= Kc/s=20 Amateur Communication Band. The Norwegian Licenc= e has got=20 it right - CW only!
 
73 petefmt 

--- On Sat, 21/11/0= 9, Andy -=20 KU4XR <ku4xr@ya= hoo.com>=20 wrote:

From:=20 Andy - KU4XR <= ku4xr@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re:=20 LF: WSPR BEACONS
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date:=20 Saturday, 21 November, 2009, 0:01

--- On Fri, 11/20/09, mal hamilton=20 wrote:

    ******    snippet =  =20 ******

> a cw QSO operator in real time can qsy to= take=20 evasive
> action and avoid qrm to others on adjacent=20 frequencies.
> G3KEV

    ***** end snip= pet =20   ******

By Jove !! is it possible that he finally= " GOT IT=20 " ???
heavens to wonders !!

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr -= =20 Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 185.29866 KHz ( QR= SS-60=20 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3'= 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


---= On Fri,=20 11/20/09, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>=20 wrote:

> From: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.= net>
>=20 Subject: LF: WSPR BEACONS
> To: "rsgb" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>=20 Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 2:58 PM
>
>
= > =20
> 
>
>
> 
> These= =20 unattended Beacons
> are often a source of QRM
>= for the=20 CW QSO operator, whereas a cw QSO operator in
> rea= l time can=20 qsy to
> take evasive action and avoid qrm to others on= adjacent=20
> frequencies.
> G3KEV
>  
>=20




Hi Rik and LF
 
In Jim's case he has two sidebands indicative of AM modulation and yo= u are right they are about 30 odd dBs down on the carrier. Not too bad sup= pression by 1950's standards.... hee hee. Where only one side band is repo= rted on the data base is probably becuase the reporting station is having= the  (say) lower side band clipped by having a slightly high dial fr= equency offset.
 
I have some JPEG files for the test we did yesterday if you would lik= e to see them I will send off reflector. You may see something that could= help Jim solve this issue.
 
73 petefmt

--- On Wed, 18/11/09, Rik Strobbe <rik.str= obbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote:

From: Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven= .be>
Subject: Re: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands
To: "rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Date: Wednesday, 18 No= vember, 2009, 8:58

Hello Jim, LF group,

I have noticed "double= receptions" of my WSPR signal from a number of
stations. When it occu= rred the ghost signal was always 100Hz higher
and was 33-36dB weaker.<= BR>As the frequency shift and signal strength difference was the same at=
the different RX stations I conclude that the cause was with me.
I= think that it is just some AM modulation in the PA caused by the
100H= z ripple of the PSU.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


At 02:13= 18/11/2009, you wrote:
>Dear Jim LF Group,
>
>Looking= at the sidebands on the G7NKS WSPR signals, mains hum or other noise
&= gt;by itself is not a sufficient explanation of what is seen. Simply addin= g
>50Hz, 150Hz, etc. noise into the PC audio channel, then feeding= the result
>into an SSB TX would give unwanted CW at frequencies of= fset from the SSB
>carrier frequency by +/-50Hz, 150Hz and so on, i.= e. with the carrier "dial
>frequency" at 502.4kHz, unmodulated carriers would= appear at 502.45kHz,
>502.55kHz and so on, in addition to the WSPR= signal at around 503.9kHz.
>However, these would probably largely= be removed by the SSB filter in the
>rig. Instead, we see unwanted= sidebands offset from the wanted WSPR signal
>frequency by +/- 50Hz= , 150Hz, with identical modulation to the wanted
>signal. This requi= res some sort of non-linear process to cause the
>intermodulation be= tween the presumed mains noise and the WSPR signal
>somewhere in the= TX chain.
>
>One possibility is that intermodulation occurs= in the PA. Jim's description
>suggests that he is persuading the HF= PA in the IC735 to produce output at
>500k. At this frequency, the= PA linearity may well be poor due to the
>impedance matching, coupl= ing, decoupling and feedback components in the PA
>being wrong for= the frequency, and high flux densities occuring in ferrite
>components due to the= low operating frequency. But this wouldn't explain why
>Jim also ge= ts multiple received signals from a strong station with a clean
>sig= nal, which implies some identical noise source and distortion in the
&g= t;receive path. It would also mean the mains noise getting through the
= >filtering in the rig somehow.
>
>A possibility that would= explain the unwanted sidebands appearing on both TX
>and RX signals= is if one of the oscillators in the system has mains noise
>sideban= ds. The sound card clock seems unlikely, since this is just a simple
&g= t;crystal oscillator. I see the IC735 has some sort of multi-loop PLL
&= gt;synthesiser, which would certainly be prone to this type of spurious si= gnal,
>since any kind of mains noise getting in would modulate the= VCO frequencies,
>and would probably be the same on transmit and re= ceive. This could be
>checked by receiving a clean carrier somewhere aroun= d 500kHz, and examining
>the audio output using Spec Lab or Argo or= similar to see if 50Hz and 150Hz
>sidebands are present on the rece= ived audio tone.
>
>Cheers, Jim Moritz
>73 de M0BMU
&= gt;
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "James Cowbur= n" <james.cowburn= @virgin.net>
>To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>Sent:= Monday, November 16, 2009 8:26 PM
>Subject: LF: rule #2 - assumptio= n is the brother of all foul ups
>
>
> > LF
>= >
> >
> >
> > Sidebands are back!  I= think its caused by my TX getting hot and bothered
> > by
> > struggling at 50= 0.  From cold it txs 50 watts but this soon drops back to
> >= ; around 35, and the sidebands appear.  My sigs are better so having= the
> > txfr
> > outside the shack and at the antenna= is a vast improvement, but I now need
> > to work on the cooling= .



=20 --0-1037354559-1258537339=:43526-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME104-99d4b005a4b2bd; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:45:23 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME021-99d4b005a4b2bd; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:45:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9l1S-0000pB-Io for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:44:30 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9l1S-0000p1-4v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:44:30 +0000 Received: from mailout01.t-online.de ([194.25.134.80]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9l1Q-00014t-Hn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:44:30 +0000 Received: from fwd06.aul.t-online.de by mailout01.t-online.de with smtp id 1N9l1P-0005dC-06; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:44:27 +0100 Received: from e7010 (G57s58ZCZhw4forvgzvRP2PQaN97RxkYMrQK6HwNTZNq8FL7coGWfDx5Y1qe6J4g35@[84.147.204.191]) by fwd06.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1N9l1L-1eZW520; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:44:23 +0100 Message-ID: <006d01ca662c$07906c20$6402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: References: <000a01ca65ec$16f199e0$6402a8c0@e7010> <4B0027F5.3060603@xs4all.nl> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:44:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: G57s58ZCZhw4forvgzvRP2PQaN97RxkYMrQK6HwNTZNq8FL7coGWfDx5Y1qe6J4g35 X-TOI-MSGID: c23cf2f0-2feb-47de-ad45-d8e60c33db33 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: DI2AG WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Tnx, dear Ko, fer this early report. 73 Walter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ko Versteeg" To: Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 5:10 PM Subject: Re: LF: DI2AG WSPR > Walter und Marianne Staubach wrote: > > Dear MF, > > DI2AG is already on air in WSPR. QRG 505.090KHz, PWR 0.4W ERP. > > Duty cycle 33%. The beacon will be busy until tomorrow morning. > > 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF > > Walter > 1546 -28 1.4 0.505089 0 DI2AG JN59 27 > 73 de Ko, NL9222 > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb04.mx.aol.com (rly-mb04.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.162]) by air-mb05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB052-cfd4affeae412; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:49:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB041-cfd4affeae412; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:49:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9dbC-0006Rh-8V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:48:54 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9dbB-0006RY-JA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:48:53 +0000 Received: from col0-omc1-s6.col0.hotmail.com ([65.55.34.16]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9dbA-0007M7-2H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:48:53 +0000 Received: from COL122-W63 ([65.55.34.8]) by col0-omc1-s6.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:48:38 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.4.140.33] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:48:38 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <001601ca65e4$76cd10e0$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> References: <001601ca65e4$76cd10e0$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Nov 2009 11:48:38.0593 (UTC) FILETIME=[92122B10:01CA65E9] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_6188073b-44de-43e3-a145-be4ca8baa81c_" Subject: RE: LF: hello LUBOS X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_6188073b-44de-43e3-a145-be4ca8baa81c_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Claude, LF! OK, I am pleased to made this FB QSO on 137kHz. Your signal was very nice,= congratulation! Have a nice weekend! Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS From: f8boj@club-internet.fr To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:12:04 +0100 Subject: LF: hello LUBOS HI LUBOS LF Group Many thanks for qso lubos ur MM in JN16WA good sunday for ALL Claude F8boj =20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: Zjedodu=B9te si ka=BEdodenn=ED =FAkoly. Kter=FD po=E8=EDta=E8= je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD? http://windows.microsoft.com/shop=3D --_6188073b-44de-43e3-a145-be4ca8baa81c_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Claude, LF!
OK, I am pleased to made this FB QSO on 137kHz. Your= signal was very nice, congratulation!
Have a nice weekend!

Lubo= s, OK2BVG, JN88KS


From: f8boj@club-inte= rnet.fr
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:1= 2:04 +0100
Subject: LF: hello LUBOS

HI LUBOS LF Group
Many thanks for qso lubos ur MM
in JN16WA
good sunday for ALL
Claude F8boj
=
Windows 7: Zjedodu=B9te si ka=BEdodenn=ED =FAkoly.= Kter=FD po= =E8=EDta=E8 je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD? =3D --_6188073b-44de-43e3-a145-be4ca8baa81c_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc12.mx.aol.com (rly-mc12.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.96]) by air-mc06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC064-daa4b05d6003a9; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:34:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC122-daa4b05d6003a9; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:34:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBGVB-0003pg-Sz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:33:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBGVB-0003pW-CK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:33:25 +0000 Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com ([205.188.105.143]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBGV9-00036G-RQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:33:25 +0000 Received: from imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (imo-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.138]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nAJNX5O1026529 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:33:05 -0500 Received: from F4DTL@aol.com by imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id l.cbe.4f47370d (32913) for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:33:02 -0500 (EST) From: F4DTL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:33:01 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5029 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: F4DTL@aol.com X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: WD2XSH/10 on 506.750 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_cbe.4f47370d.38372fad_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --part1_cbe.4f47370d.38372fad_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1258673580" -------------------------------1258673580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Hello Dex, TEN !!! =20 =20 F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP RX : Icom IC756 Pro Ant: 10m tuned MF vertical Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 19/11/2009 23:37:40 Paris, Madrid, dmcintyre@att.= net=20 a =E9crit : Now for a real challenge look for WD2XSH/10 on 506.750 sending "TEN" at= =20 QRSS10 =20 speed. Will let it run all night. 73, Dex -------------------------------1258673580 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= FONT id=3Drole_document color=3D#000000 size=3D2 face=3DArial>
Hello Dex, TEN !!!
 
 
F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP

RX : Icom IC756 Pro
Ant: 10m= tuned=20 MF vertical
 
 
Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 19/11/2009 23:37:40 Paris, Madrid, dmcintyre= @att.net=20 a =E9crit :
N= ow for=20 a real challenge look for WD2XSH/10 on 506.750 sending "TEN" at QRSS10= =20
speed.  Will let it run all=20 night.

73,
Dex
 
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post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01CA70F9.F5FD5B70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes series for more V parallel for more I(amps) and preferable some= R and C across each except they are really identical. mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: David Towers=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 12:37 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv diode Hi Mal surely "in series" to give a 4 KV diode at 1amp ? dave G8SZX mal hamilton wrote:=20 Ken On the serious side, use 6 x 1Kvolt @ 1A in parallel if u are stuc= k. Don't get zapped=20 73 mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:28 AM Subject: LF: Re: 4kv diode=20 Electric Chair Co Zapenda Cul de sac Hellda State Zip73 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ken=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:04 AM Subject: LF: 4kv diode=20 Hello All. I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or equivalent diode, BY4 4kv= @ 1A, BY6 6kv @ 1A, I have searched the web and looked in Farnell,= any ideas please. 73. Ken M0KHW =20 ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01CA70F9.F5FD5B70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes series for more V  parallel= for more=20 I(amps) and preferable some R and C across each except they are really= =20 identical.
mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 David Towers
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 20= 09 12:37=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv= diode

Hi Mal
surely "in series" to give a 4 KV diode at= 1amp=20 ?
dave G8SZX



mal hamilton wrote:=20
Ken
On the serious side, use 6 x 1Kvo= lt @ 1A in=20 parallel if u are stuck.
Don't get zapped
73 mal/g3kev
 
-----=20 Original Message -----
From:=20 mal hamilton
Sent:=20 Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:28 AM
Subject:=20 LF: Re: 4kv diode

Electric Chair Co
Zapenda Cul de sac
Hellda State
Zip73
 
-----=20 Original Message -----
From:=20 Ken=20
Sent:=20 Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:04 AM
Subject:=20 LF: 4kv diode

Hello All.
I am looking for a BY4 or BY6= or equivalent=20 diode, BY4   4kv @ 1A, BY6  6kv @ 1A, I have se= arched the=20 web and looked in Farnell, any ideas please.
 
73.
Ken
 
M0KHW  &nbs= p;

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------=_NextPart_000_000A_01CA6B67.1B8D77A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df12.mx.aol.com (rly-df12.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.25]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF034-5934b00571826a; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:31:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF122-5934b00571826a; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:31:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9kny-0000Zl-H4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:30:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9kny-0000Zc-21 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:30:34 +0000 Received: from mx40.mail.ru ([94.100.176.54]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9knx-0002cX-Ce for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:30:34 +0000 Received: from [79.98.8.6] (port=29865 helo=EFREMOV) by mx40.mail.ru with asmtp id 1N9knr-000FwT-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:30:27 +0300 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <003e01ca662a$1592c400$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "Andrey rn3agc" To: References: <000a01ca65ec$16f199e0$6402a8c0@e7010> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:30:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: Re: DI2AG WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Walter, 1920 -27 1.8 0.505089 DI2AG JN59 27 1926 -28 1.7 0.505089 DI2AG JN59 27 73 Andrey Dear MF, DI2AG is already on air in WSPR. QRG 505.090KHz, PWR 0.4W ERP. Duty cycle 33%. The beacon will be busy until tomorrow morning. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (rly-mg04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.110]) by air-mg05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG053-a0a4af71b9327f; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:27:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG044-a0a4af71b9327f; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:27:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7DOb-0008RJ-BY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:25:53 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7DOa-0008RA-QX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:25:52 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7DNd-00023G-Ok for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:24:54 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 08 Nov 2009 19:25:44 -0000 Received: from p5DD34CC5.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO Clemens04) [93.211.76.197] by mail.gmx.net (mp032) with SMTP; 08 Nov 2009 20:25:44 +0100 X-Authenticated: #17214767 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18PFhwtd4YPaiL1RtJDeiqKEa6/IoflmvU2sVOWPG /cFlotdhZXI+ab Message-ID: <020b01ca60a9$4495adc0$0201a8c0@Clemens04> From: "Clemens Paul" To: References: <027601ca60a2$841cd150$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:23:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.5600000000000001 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Mal, >WSPR reports amongst stns indicate reception reports usually minus dB. Most of these > stations are usually PLUS >dB with me or very close to that figure. WSPR refers the indicated SNR to a BW of 2,4kHz. So if your receiving BW is say 100Hz your actual SNR is better by ~14dB than WSPR reports. >A trace of the signal is visible long before a decode takes place, therefore why >not use QRS in >the first place. This may be an issue of your RX/soundcard setup. I can assure you that with my Perseus SDR RX,set to a RBW of less than one Hertz for the display,I can decode every WSPR signal which shows even only a faint trace on the waterfall diagram. At least this is my experience so far. 73 Clemens DL4RAJ ----- Original Message ----- From: mal hamilton To: rsgb Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 7:37 PM Subject: LF: WSPR WSPR reports amongst stns indicate reception reports usually minus dB. Most of these stations are usually PLUS dB with me or very close to that figure. So what does that prove. I would say it depends on the RX antenna and not necessarily propagation. A large antenna yields better results than a small loop or active whip. When I switch from my 1/4 wave inv L for 500 khz to a smaller 40 m resonated loop for 500 the signals then do go down to a minus db figure. So what is all this all ABOUT ? There is also the TX pwr to consider. Two transmitters from the same location one using QRO and the other QRP will be received at different levels at a specified RX location. There is a lot of misrepresentation and misleading information by WSPR operator A trace of the signal is visible long before a decode takes place, therefore why not use QRS in the first place. G3KEV No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.55/2489 - Release Date: 11/08/09 07:37:00 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md09.mx.aol.com (rly-md09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.147]) by air-md02.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMD023-9244b0e5b7222c; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:42:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD094-9244b0e5b7222c; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:41:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDbmD-0003SX-Lp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:40:41 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDbmD-0003SO-43 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:40:41 +0000 Received: from out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.240]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDbmB-0004BB-CN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:40:41 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ar8EAFLqDUtcHB30/2dsb2JhbACCT4ZOhHsGxhOEMgQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,292,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="117520378" Received: from unknown (HELO your91hoehfy9g) ([92.28.29.244]) by out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 26 Nov 2009 10:40:16 +0000 Message-ID: <000e01ca6e84$d86c8710$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:40:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: CLASS E Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA6E84.D83830A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA6E84.D83830A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MF and Co Getting suitable capacitors is the problem, not normally available fro= m the junk box. Maybe a class F amp is the answer or the mechanical G turbo charged ru= moured to be over 100% efficient G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA6E84.D83830A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
MF and Co
Getting suitable capacitors is the pr= oblem, not=20 normally available from the junk box.
Maybe a class F amp is the answer or= the mechanical=20 G turbo charged rumoured to be over 100% efficient
G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA6E84.D83830A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de10.mx.aol.com (rly-de10.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.146]) by air-de06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE062-50c4b00206f203; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:38:33 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE107-50c4b00206f203; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:38:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9hA5-0007EN-SL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:37:09 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9hA5-0007EE-3p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:37:09 +0000 Received: from out1.ip02ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.238]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9hA3-0008HP-30 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:37:09 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqIEADau/0pOlIcr/2dsb2JhbACCT4FqiVsGw2+EPAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,746,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="99194529" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.135.43]) by out1.ip02ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 15 Nov 2009 15:36:43 +0000 Message-ID: <040901ca6609$73095250$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "Roger Lapthorn" Cc: "rsgb" References: <9afca2640911150409x1389fd48q451284c2e0ee43d5@mail.gmail.com> <03a301ca65ee$020ae250$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <9afca2640911150509x387471dcxa7e5ffa73e8ec9cb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:36:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: G3XBM on CW at noon? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0406_01CA6609.72922680" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0406_01CA6609.72922680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pleased u made it to Scarborough, good Q5 but weak. No need for wspr.= Lots of other CW acty on band today, hpe u work some more. 73 gud dxing mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Roger Lapthorn=20 To: mal hamilton=20 Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 1:09 PM Subject: Re: G3XBM on CW at noon? Many thanks Mal for my very first 2-way 500kHz CW QSO. You've good= ears my friend! 73s Roger G3XBM 2009/11/15 mal hamilton Well Roger u made it to Scarborough on CW, solid copy Q5 but I dou= bt if WSPR would have decoded your signal. Tnx the 569 good DX ing 73 de mal/g3kev=20 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Roger Lapthorn=20 To: g3kevmal@talktalk.net=20 Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 12:09 PM Subject: G3XBM on CW at noon? Think you may have heard me on 500kHz around noon Mal. You calle= d "QRZ G3X"several times but failed to get me. Will try again. 73s Roger G3XBM (2mW ERP) --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 ----------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.65/2503 - Release Date= : 11/14/09 19:42:00 --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.65/2503 - Release Date: 11= /14/09 19:42:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0406_01CA6609.72922680 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Pleased u made it to Scarborough, goo= d Q5 but weak.=20 No need for wspr. Lots of other CW acty on band today, hpe u work some= =20 more.
73 gud dxing mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
To: mal hamilton
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 20= 09 1:09=20 PM
Subject: Re: G3XBM on CW at= noon?

Many thanks Mal for my very first 2-way 500kHz CW QSO= . You've=20 good ears my friend!

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/11/15 mal hamilton <= ;g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
Well Roger u made it to Scarborou= gh on CW,=20 solid copy Q5 but I doubt if WSPR would have decoded you= r=20 signal.
Tnx the 569
good DX ing
73 de mal/g3kev 
  
-----=20 Original Message -----
Sent:=20 Sunday, November 15, 2009 12:09 PM
Subject:=20 G3XBM on CW at noon?

Think you may have heard me on 500kHz arou= nd noon=20 Mal. You called "QRZ G3X"several times but failed to get me.
=
Will=20 try again.

73s
Roger G3XBM (2mW ERP)
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G3XBM    GQRP 1678=20      ISWL G11088


No virus found in this incoming message.
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------=_NextPart_000_0406_01CA6609.72922680-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me05.mx.aol.com (rly-me05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.39]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME041-9bc4b0147062e4; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:35:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME058-9bc4b0147062e4; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:35:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA0mk-0004xK-7M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:34:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA0mj-0004xB-By for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:34:21 +0000 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net ([165.212.64.32]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA0mi-00072w-0L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:34:21 +0000 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net (co02-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout02.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACA2D134137 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:34:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps02.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.138] by cmsout02.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.58V) with ESMTP id XID179NkPmIN5721X02; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:34:13 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.138 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps02.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID179NkPmIN5721X02 Received: from [192.168.1.3] [151.47.211.169] by cmsapps02.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.53P) with ESMTPA id 940NkPmIL9872M38; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:34:11 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.211.169 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.1.3] Message-ID: <4B0146C0.5090001@usa.net> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:34:08 +0100 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <957920.84927.qm@web28104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <957920.84927.qm@web28104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Z-USANET-MsgId: XID940NkPmIL9872X38 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: G7NKS - Double Side Band: wspr? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) M0FMT wrote: > OK too bad you can't resolve it with your existing Sound Card. > > When considering a USB SC think about SDR (the future of Ham Radio). > M-Audio is considered a good card but see M0KGK's site for comparison > with the Creative Labs Sound Blaster Live a cost effective solution > (these are still available although production I believe has now ceased). > http://www.m0kgk.co.uk/sdr/soundcards.php If somebody is in search of a good external USB audio adapter, this one is very good. I have one and I am satisfied with it, Can be found at less than 100 Euro. http://tinyurl.com/27sgj4 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df11.mx.aol.com (rly-df11.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.24]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF052-58d4affe5c01e4; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:28:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF116-58d4affe5c01e4; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:28:03 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9dG3-00063c-M5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:27:03 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9dG3-00063T-4U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:27:03 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9dG0-0007Cy-Q0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:27:03 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so4872007bwz.4 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:26:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=f+vF7TxzhfkOOSbMepTz34YtBDYxmXiuwpOE7/KH52c=; b=sFbqvo62MoGPMurxwU68FKvgH4tqmFf+ONQdGn4UvRjEdZJKSCOcXFvIHLaXJjDDlE 9iRPzIu8f1SGZYVcBosaEJloxwew46xSxi6lj+eLr7zybaowmk1apRrC1kttxyBjpPBG kxfQVjWhjLfKDmbF/KM26JWMFkbctaTvwtlKQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=rsZHylPsZ4S9HKbkOjsLPqUqtY7HYOO5QzxKv5vdQq9y/n2PVdK8QFBzJGpCP0ERkd CUNjA76TxZmu1kKtx/+tbpkWId1N0qPEXZeW9gZeXLincptQPopF6b7ZhZQ4lv8Y0lnE 1x5DhJWSdqzKjMI4+qHf8xe3f6TrwQzekVd/o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.145.149 with SMTP id s21mr670838hba.141.1258284414970; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:26:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1f0624b90911150244p1c8ccbd7p47cc3b33eb270b2@mail.gmail.com> References: <20091115112410.27d3dldtj44k4sk4@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <1f0624b90911150244p1c8ccbd7p47cc3b33eb270b2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:26:54 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Who / where is OR2ELN ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f724b694ac570478672b6e X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m217.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001485f724b694ac570478672b6e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 To get a false decode just once is down to the laws of probability. To get the same call twice means the is genuine. Who it is, is a completely different matter. Someone just hasn't done their setup properly. Isn't JJ at zero latitude, zero longitude ? Andy www.g4jnt.com this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny state 2009/11/15 Gary - G4WGT > Hi Rik, Graham, > > I also got false decode last night that looked genuine but searches > revealed nothing. > > 091114 1958 5 -28 0.5 0.503998 WE6HMU JJ11 20 0 560 -32 > 091114 1958 8 -22 -1.1 0.503999 WE6HMU JJ11 20 0 560 0 > > JJ11 also in the water but off the west coast of Africa, perhaps the pirate > has a fast boat :-)) > > Cheers, > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > 2009/11/15 Rik Strobbe > > Graham, >> >> the call OR2ELN does not exist >> if it is a pirate he is floating in the Indian Ocean somewhe half way >> between Madagascar and Heard Island. >> >> 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >> >> Quoting Graham : >> >> 2009-11-14 23:14 OR2ELN 0.503908 -33 0 >>> MF03 501 G0NBD IO83 11740 326 >>> >>> Just decoded ? >>> >>> tnx - G >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > --001485f724b694ac570478672b6e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
To get a false decode just once is down to=A0the laws of probability.=
=A0
To get the same call twice means the <signal received> is genui= ne.=A0
Who it is, is a completely different matter.=A0Someone just hasn'= t done their setup properly.=A0=A0
Isn't JJ at zero latitude, zero longitude ?

Andy
www.g4jnt.= com

this email has been scanned for political correctness by th= e nanny state


2009/11/15 Gary - G4WGT <<= a href=3D"mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk">g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
Hi Rik, Graham,=20

I also got false decode last night that looked genuine but searches= revealed nothing.

091114 1958 =A0 5 -28 =A00.5 =A0 0.503998 =A0WE6HMU JJ11 20 =A0 =A0= =A0 =A0 =A00 =A0 560 =A0-32
091114 1958 =A0 8 -22 -1.1 =A0 0.503999 =A0WE6HMU JJ11 20 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0 =A00 =A0 560 =A0 =A00

JJ11 also in the water but off the west coast of Africa, perhaps the= pirate has a fast boat :-))

Cheers,

Gary - G4WGT.


2009/11/15 Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe= @fys.kuleuven.be>=20

Graham,

the call OR2ELN= does not exist
if it is a pirate he is floating in the Indian Ocean so= mewhe half way between Madagascar and Heard Island.

73, Rik =A0ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:<= br>
=A02009-11-14 23:14 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0OR2ELN =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A00.503908 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-33 =A0 =A0 0 =A0= =A0 =A0 MF03 =A0 =A0501 =A0 =A0 G0NBD =A0 IO83 =A0 =A011740 =A0 326

Just =A0decoded ?

tnx - G





<= br>


--001485f724b694ac570478672b6e-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB031-ae74b007c5558; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:10:43 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB095-ae74b007c5558; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:10:31 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9nHx-0002Fe-JN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:09:41 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9nHx-0002FT-4M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:09:41 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9nHv-0001rV-Dm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:09:41 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3542.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 10A091C00081 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:09:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3542.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id F33EB1C00083 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:09:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.53.205]) by mwinf3542.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id A92A01C00081 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:09:33 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091115220933693.A92A01C00081@mwinf3542.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <1A8E7857A7294C39AA873BDC76A001D8@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <1043CB7D895D4161B1C87CDD140332A2@AGB> <0CADF4DD71FD43A2A8384463754F6344@AGB> <4B005411.4010506@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <1C14999758D149228277CBBC2446F1D7@AGB> <4B006812.7010101@sighthound.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4B006812.7010101@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:09:32 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Running mW wspr Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Not a beep ... Set power to 200 mW as of 22-05 G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "John P-G" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 8:44 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Running mW wspr > > G > > 10dB might be a bit too much, your previous decodes were around > -25/-28dB here. Perhaps at some peaks of QSB, later in the night we > might still strike lucky. > > Am considering knocking up a transverter for 500kHz and replacing the MF > ATU out at the feedpoint (currently have an HF auto-atu there) to allow > me to radiate some signals on 500 again. > > Cheers, > > John > > > Graham wrote: >> 2334 45 mW drive to the antenna .. slight problem zeroing the >> meter as there is 60 uW of energy coming back in from the atu .... >> so thats about -10 dB down on the previous level >> >> G .. >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "John P-G" >> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 7:18 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: LF: Running mW wspr >> >>> >>> >>> >>> Graham wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Crazy system ..... spot just in from John ! >>> >>> >>> I thought your mW signal was meant to be a challenge, but of course >>> Roger's already discovered that WSPR will decode signals that you >>> can't hear, and are often so weak on a waterfall that QRSS3 would be a >>> struggle (despite what someone here repeatedly fails to comprehend) >>> >>> Can you go any lower? >>> >>> John >>> GM4SLV >>> >>> >> >> >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de01.mx.aol.com (rly-de01.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.137]) by air-de01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE011-4b14b090997b1; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:51:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE016-4b14b090997b1; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:51:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NC95W-0000xh-Te for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:50:34 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NC95W-0000xV-8X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:50:34 +0000 Received: from psmtp31.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.33]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NC95U-00036E-7J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:50:34 +0000 Received: from ns94d01ae4d850 (ip51cc8b9f.speed.planet.nl [81.204.139.159]) by psmtp31.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with SMTP id <0KTI005RX8NTTP@psmtp31.wxs.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:50:18 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:50:06 +0100 From: henny van elst To: blacksheep Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: SP2KDS 22-11.jpg Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_wiPu1Qk+moKUJd3T1I13eA)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 --Boundary_(ID_wiPu1Qk+moKUJd3T1I13eA) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_nhZ7wdTbbODzsgaArUWWaQ)" --Boundary_(ID_nhZ7wdTbbODzsgaArUWWaQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi LF, nice copy SP2KDS, Henny pa3cpm 73s Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: SP2KDS 22-11.jpg Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. 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Hi LF,
nice copy SP2KDS,
Henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
SP2KDS 22-11.jpg

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multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003A_01CA71BC.4355D790" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01CA71BC.4355D790 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_003B_01CA71BC.4355D790" ------=_NextPart_001_003B_01CA71BC.4355D790 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear LF group, since DCF39 got a new transmitter in April 2007, the 137 kHz band has= been plagued by increased interference from it's excessively wide FSK= switching sidebands. Viewed from here, they extend down to below 136.= 9 kHz on a quiet day. There are a few narrow gaps around baudrate mult= iples from the carrier, which can provide clean lanes for narrowband= modes. Recently I noticed a subtile change in the shape of the spectrum (see= screenshot). In addition to the 10 Hz wide gaps at n x 200 Hz from th= e active (space) frequency 139.17 kHz (ie. at 137.77, 137,57, 137.37= ... kHz), there are now additional, slightly wider gaps grouped aroun= d the idle (mark) frequency 138.83 kHz (ie. at 137.83, 137.63, 137.43= ...). This is apparently related to a small modification in the timin= g of the transmitted serial data bytes (one start bit, nine data bits,= one stop bit). The data bits have always been exactly 5.0 ms long, bu= t the duration of the stop interval used to be slightly longer (5.31= ms). This has now been changed to 5.0 ms as well. Most of the transmitted data actually are 16 byte timestamps, which ar= e repeated every 11 seconds and used to synchronize the clocks in the= remote receivers. They now seem to be aligned to UTC time, with the= start bit commencing exactly 875 ms before the second, and the last= data bit ending on the GPS second pulse. Klaus Betke (DL4BBL) has der= ived the binary telegram format and published it on his former website= www.longwave.de. With this information, it should be possible to buil= d a DCF39 (as opposed to DCF77 or MSF) clock. There may also be new op= portunities for DCF39 phase extraction and sideband cancellation. The software noise blanker in Spectrum Lab can be configured to reduce= the impact of the DCF sidebands on QRSS reception. I found it advanta= geous to not suppress the complete telegrams, but only a short time ar= ound each of the individual FSK transition clicks. To do this, you wil= l have to feed the soundcard without enough bandwidth (at least 1 kHz)= to contain the clicks, but not the carrier frequency (138.83 kHz). Th= en you can optimize the noise blanker threshold (9 dB) and ramptime se= ttings (2.5 ms, short enough to retain most of the signal, but long en= ough to restrict the generation of new sidebands). Kind regards, Markus (DF6NM) ------=_NextPart_001_003B_01CA71BC.4355D790 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear LF group,
 
since DCF39 got a new transmitte= r in=20 April 2007, the 137 kHz band has been plagued by increased= =20 interference from it's excessively wide FSK switching=20 sidebands. Viewed from here, they extend down to below 136.9= kHz on a=20 quiet day. There are a few narrow gaps around baudrate multiples= from the=20 carrier, which can provide clean lanes for narrowband modes.
 
Recently I noticed a subtile change= in the shape of=20 the spectrum (see screenshot). In addition to the 10 Hz wide gaps at&n= bsp;n x=20 200 Hz from the active (space) frequency 139.17 kHz (ie. at 137.77, 13= 7,57,=20 137.37 ... kHz), there are now additional, slightly wider gaps gr= ouped=20 around the idle (mark) frequency 138.83 kHz (ie. at 137.83, 137.6= 3, 137.43=20 ...). This is apparently related to a small modification in the timing= of the=20 transmitted serial data bytes (one start bit, nine data bits, one= stop=20 bit). The data bits have always been exactly 5.0 ms long, but the dura= tion of=20 the stop interval used to be slightly longer (5.31 ms). This has= now been=20 changed to 5.0 ms as well.
 
Most of the transmitted data actually= are 16 byte=20 timestamps, which are repeated every 11 seconds and used to synchroniz= e the=20 clocks in the remote receivers. They now seem to be aligned to UTC=20 time, with the start bit commencing exactly 875 ms before the=20 second, and the last data bit ending on the GPS second pulse. Klaus Betke (DL4BBL) has derived the= binary telegram format=20 and published it on his former website www.longwave.de. With this information, it=20 should be possible to build a DCF39 (as opposed to DCF77 or MSF)= clock.=20 There may also be new opportunities for DCF39 phase extraction an= d sideband=20 cancellation.
 
The software noise blanker in Spectru= m Lab can be=20 configured to reduce the impact of the DCF sidebands on QRSS rece= ption. I=20 found it advantageous to not suppress the complete telegrams, but= =20 only a short time around each of the individual FSK transiti= on clicks.=20 To do this, you will have to feed the soundcard without enough bandwid= th (at=20 least 1 kHz) to contain the clicks, but not the carrier freq= uency=20 (138.83 kHz). Then you can optimize the noise blanker threshold= (9 dB) and=20 ramptime settings (2.5 ms, short enough to retain most of the&nbs= p;signal,=20 but long enough to restrict the generation of new sidebands).
 
Kind regards,
Markus (DF6NM)
 
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nAO0W6gO012923 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:02:06 -0330 Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:02:06 -0330 (NST) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" In-Reply-To: <4B0B096A.7040507@online.fr> Message-ID: References: <4B04EADA.4090707@telus.net> <57a24ca70911190525s5bbf2768gcfe5e7150eb8f784@mail.gmail.com> <20091121211012.fehyrbxl4400ckc8@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <4B0B096A.7040507@online.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: VX9MRC Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-1719232024-800113279-1259022726=:4587" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 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Oui des signaux sont vraiment forts. 73 Joe On Mon, 23 Nov 2009, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" wrote: > Hello Joe, > > This evening I listened to your beacon, it is too easy! =85. first blow= it is=20 > in limps! > > 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj > ---1719232024-800113279-1259022726=:4587-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (rly-dc04.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.33]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDC081-b194b0cf7eb1ce; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:25:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC045-b194b0cf7eb1ce; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:25:01 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDE6h-0001ek-Hd for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:24:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDE6g-0001eU-LV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:24:14 +0000 Received: from out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.242]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDE6f-00082T-Vh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:24:14 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAPeGDEtcGuLt/2dsb2JhbACCIi+LPgbIGIQ5BA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,285,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="263228941" Received: from unknown (HELO your91hoehfy9g) ([92.26.226.237]) by out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 25 Nov 2009 09:23:57 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01ca6db1$04873810$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:23:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Class E pa Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01CA6DB1.043FA7C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01CA6DB1.043FA7C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ref recent discussion on the subject. I use a class E pa on 500 kcs and never get any trouble. As a general guide use high voltage fets and the fet V should be rated= at about 5 times the supply V and current about 3 times. You arrive at class E by careful design not by accident.=20 Having designed and built the PA for the required power and load R usu= ally 50 ohms adjust into a DL for correct waveform as displayed on a= 'scope, this is important otherwise V spikes and instability will kil= l the fet.=20 Install a suitable antenna and match it with a suitable atu to 50 ohms= so when you connect the TX/PA to the antenna they both match. Check the wave form again and any slight mismatch should be adjusted= by the antenna atu and NOT the pa.=20 The load does not have to be 50 ohms but this is convenient when testi= ng with available test gear. High V fets give more realistic C and Inductor and R values. A good ra= nge for fets is a psu giving 40 - 100 volts ie fets 500volts and a sui= table current rating depending on your power. requirements ie if you= need to draw 5 amps the fet should be rated 15 amps. These are the general guidelines and work well for me. Most amateurs seem to use class D amps whereas class E are rare. de Mal/G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01CA6DB1.043FA7C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ref recent discussion on the subject.=
 
I use a class E pa on 500 kcs and nev= er get any=20 trouble.
As a general guide use high voltage= fets and the=20 fet V should be rated at  about 5 times the supply V and current= about 3=20 times.
You arrive at class E by careful desi= gn not by=20 accident.
Having designed and built the PA for= the required=20 power and load R usually 50 ohms adjust into a DL for correc= t waveform=20 as displayed on a 'scope, this is important otherwise V spikes and ins= tability=20 will kill the fet.
Install a suitable antenna and match= it with a=20 suitable atu to 50 ohms so when you connect the TX/PA to the antenna= they both=20 match.
Check the wave form again and any sli= ght mismatch=20 should be adjusted by the antenna atu and NOT the pa.
Th= e load does not=20 have to be 50 ohms but this is convenient when testing with available= test=20 gear.
High V fets give more realistic C and= Inductor and=20 R values. A good range for fets is a psu giving 40 - 100 volts ie fets= 500volts=20 and a suitable current rating depending on your power. requirements ie= if you=20 need to draw 5 amps the fet should be rated 15 amps.
These are the general guidelines and= work well for=20 me.
Most amateurs seem to use class D amp= s whereas=20 class E are rare.
 
de Mal/G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_0009_01CA6DB1.043FA7C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD043-b704b07d1363b2; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:38:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD042-b704b07d1363b2; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:38:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBoHW-0004kj-Oj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:37:34 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBoHW-0004ka-3i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:37:34 +0000 Received: from smtp823.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.19]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBoHU-0008L0-Kr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:37:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 1426 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2009 11:37:27 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Importance:X-MimeOLE; b=J/acRy2NYNA8LdFCCsmik66yTRDqu1n9cs1pEgFGFyJcblNNur0B6Qv0OAD0uTQFRU2nCMTZMmjJQGVMojgQZnnaGP+uc5ITctM3+AWDv1iiCRJK6ZN44d/kORTVAzDhd0JMZjWZlV5u/OLQBAOgJurTxfLdtzcDN1ZUr7AhqmY= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@81.153.225.112 with login) by smtp823.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 2009 11:37:27 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: JSvqNSWswBBXc9Mk_Vd71RtGz2bViJtuZMADdmi78eLqBj_R7.fL X-YMail-OSG: zMNYgvUVM1nHgO4rqCUDXrJjoiJJXMV4VYcBM42q.pzU4oZYBiwFpUssp_3vL1ssIHMKHcgfmLLpmoO.5n5mWO848xWLvTVS5ytRrj.FMDkN3JcL9GqWqUwS5D5sYzog3yWepofCVLjWxHxZZDdJ0MiV3nNQIZilBKky59Oniv5EENJcBMdL8xT.wB2nrgkD9qxxv_k3x0QmuKoJRKw6oWX_SVTzHaVElZ5uqJHXieYgl4l2GjXWld_Iehd5GCxRI7SYopUIyu_msYzNiosS4yE9zXTYKTcK2kAh82jsvxsdoHa_kzEyTPRE8silTey6hxhLp69Ru51oQI4f9JB1g6sDp6Ot1Qig4i8DsSvaeaJZ9.Px9bmlnML0Kw-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:37:52 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <8E115927716E4640BE76583239937818@DennisPC> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: [500 khz] M0JXM... Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0019_01CA6A9F.0F625F90" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_40_50, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01CA6A9F.0F625F90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Dennis. Your signals are RST 579 here this morning. I can also hear G3DXZ at 349/QSB, but he's sending too fast for reliable copy at this end. My antenna is a 20m long double wire "tee" at 5m, and the RX is a W&G SPM-30 with a tuned J310 pre-amp. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, s.e. England -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of DENNIS EASTERLING Sent: 18 November 2009 17:16 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Lost QSO Hello Mal Sorry if I left you in the lurch 16.5 today, after giving you a report 599 something happened and a single frequency signal came up on top of you and slowly drifted down frequency, perhaps someone tuning? Better luck next time. 73 Dennis M0JXM ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01CA6A9F.0F625F90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,=20 Dennis.
 
Your=20 signals are RST 579 here this morning. I can also hear G3DXZ at 349/QS= B, but=20 he's sending too fast for reliable copy at this end.
 
My antenna is a 20m long=20 double wire "tee" at 5m, and the RX is a W&G SPM-30 with a tuned= J310=20 pre-amp. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Windsor, s.e= .=20 England
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of DENNI= S=20 EASTERLING
Sent: 18 November 2009 17:16
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Lost=20 QSO

Hello Mal
 
Sorry if I left you in the lurch&nb= sp; 16.5=20 today, after giving you a report 599 something happened and a single= =20 frequency signal came up on top of you and slowly drifted down= frequency,=20 perhaps someone tuning?
 
Better luck next time.
 
73 Dennis=20 M0JXM
------=_NextPart_000_0019_01CA6A9F.0F625F90-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB062-ae24afddbe4248; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:21:46 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB088-ae24afddbe4248; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:21:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N94VP-0005yO-As for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:20:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N94VO-0005yF-VR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:20:34 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N94VO-0001QF-B0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:20:34 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.4] (rx1.twatt.home [192.168.1.4]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59EE83B4D8 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:20:33 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4AFDDBB1.3060000@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:20:33 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <016001ca64a7$959b4f20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <016001ca64a7$959b4f20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Proper morse Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) mal hamilton wrote: > Could the said person be a WSPR PIRATE ? Well, my NoV is actually for A1A Telegraphy, and I've never radiated anything other than that mode. I have NEVER transmitted WSPR on 500kHz, so I guess I couldn't be considered a WSPR PIRATE. You must be thinking of someone else? This doesn't mean I'm not happy to help others in their studies of alternative modes. Anyone who decries "beacon modes" and "appliance operation" - and who claims to only use "QSO mode" - really should restrict themselves to hand sent CW using real "proper" CW, don't you think? Once such a person has been seen and heard to use an "appliance" to generate their CW and QRSS signals (we've ALL heard the interminable CQ calls... obviously not hand generated, and sent with no intention to listen for replies), in the hope of being received on a distant grabber, with no hope of a 2-way QSO, then I believe they forfeit any moral authority to lecture the rest of us as to how we should conduct our experimental activities. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (rly-mf02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.172]) by air-mf02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF024-9444b003404260; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:02:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF022-9444b003404260; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:01:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9iTP-0007q5-2n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:01:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9iTO-0007pw-KB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:01:10 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9iTN-0001tT-3B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:01:10 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id D50087B802A for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:00:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2356F3862 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:00:57 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id 5CE4218056; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:00:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from 92.141-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (92.141-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.247.141.92]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:00:57 +0100 Message-ID: <20091115180057.lsnsg12qw0oocokg@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:00:57 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <9afca2640911150409x1389fd48q451284c2e0ee43d5@mail.gmail.com> <03a301ca65ee$020ae250$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <9afca2640911150509x387471dcxa7e5ffa73e8ec9cb@mail.gmail.com> <040901ca6609$73095250$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <041601ca660c$2c6b9850$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <9afca2640911150825q1d827944p7486ccc38d0676e6@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9afca2640911150825q1d827944p7486ccc38d0676e6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.247.141.92 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: G3XBM on CW at noon? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Roger, if you are QRV in CW tonight I will watch out for you (starting 20UTC). 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting Roger Lapthorn : > Just worked Chris G3XIZ Mal. > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > 2009/11/15 mal hamilton > > PS > G3XBM nw cq at 1550 utc. Other stns on band. Am I the only one that =20 > can copy him ? > g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: mal hamilton > To: Roger Lapthorn > Cc: rsgb > Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 3:36 PM > Subject: LF: Re: G3XBM on CW at noon? > > Pleased u made it to Scarborough, good Q5 but weak. No need for =20 > wspr. Lots of other CW acty on band today, hpe u work some more. > 73 gud dxing mal/g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Roger Lapthorn > To: mal hamilton > Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 1:09 PM > Subject: Re: G3XBM on CW at noon? > > Many thanks Mal for my very first 2-way 500kHz CW QSO. You've good =20 > ears my friend! > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > 2009/11/15 mal hamilton > > Well Roger u made it to Scarborough on CW, solid copy Q5 but I doubt =20 > if WSPR would have decoded your signal. > Tnx the 569 > good DX ing > 73 de mal/g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Roger Lapthorn > To: g3kevmal@talktalk.net > Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 12:09 PM > Subject: G3XBM on CW at noon? > > Think you may have heard me on 500kHz around noon Mal. You called =20 > "QRZ G3X"several times but failed to get me. > > Will try again. > > 73s > Roger G3XBM (2mW ERP) > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > > ________________________________ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.65/2503 - Release Date: =20 > 11/14/09 19:42:00 > > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > > ________________________________ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.65/2503 - Release Date: =20 > 11/14/09 19:42:00 > > ________________________________ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.65/2503 - Release Date: =20 > 11/14/09 19:42:00 > > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc02.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDC021-b374b143b117e; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:37:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC083-b374b143b117e; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:37:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NFDus-0000To-N2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:36:18 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NFDus-0000Tf-85 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:36:18 +0000 Received: from mail-pz0-f177.google.com ([209.85.222.177]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NFDuo-0005dl-DM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:36:18 +0000 Received: by pzk7 with SMTP id 7so6462293pzk.30 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:36:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=sWPx/WKltzUMi8QtPxH265oP14lF21jManhm3wUPNDo=; b=htThonNHDv14Um32j1zRPaRMD4aNXbA2n38wR9wfquBznaaz1keRWpAf3hHb217SLA 13+ur4vYNvy4AJAmrVA/5QatVA9lEJuxLJzUEnSKL9cLPnQSz+XzvD7X5LHsxtmW/lvZ m1I7TvH/8VHWc+4CpVrXl8cWf+kqblWCGSzdc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=cA7ran026jfC3m4AyGAWnCd5WjXLZCMWdKt5EgusxFbETLxRab0vUPQXfIlYryxiMH ZR4bd4Atiw5W3my07CC/zZyWdcxmK8euPoJduykrUHRFM/v+HoSEwobnq/21YHH6TWEB 1TC9nbsYHB/hLLvkqnI/ex+3JrpFGwLTky9h0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.49.12 with SMTP id b12mr304325rvk.238.1259616966740; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:36:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B14340A.19336.294139D@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> References: <4B140806.10012.1E82610@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> <622008509.1259614024.60767016.44464@mcgi69.rambler.ru> <4B14340A.19336.294139D@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:36:06 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 78c64529a9828faf Message-ID: <1f0624b90911301336x21523281hc3968ec089e8d80f@mail.gmail.com> From: Gary - G4WGT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: DX test 136.318kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd290b2db0b2f04799d6d5f X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d283.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0cd290b2db0b2f04799d6d5f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Mike, The link works OK for me, try again it could have been of at the time. Gary - G4WGT. 2009/11/30 Mike Dennison > Roman, > > Thanks but I get an error message on that web address. > > Mike > ==== > > > Hi Mike! > > Started my grabber on for the night overview. > > qrss.nm.ru > > > > * Mike Dennison [Mon, 30 Nov 2009 > > 17:59:34 -0000]: > I will be transmitting "XDV" overnight (1800 - 0900 > > UTC) tonight > using QRSS60 on 136.3180kHz. DX reports are welcome. > > > > Mike. G3XDV > ========== > > > > > > > -- > > Roman RW3ADB. > > > > > > > > --000e0cd290b2db0b2f04799d6d5f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike,

The link works OK for me, try again it could have= been of at the time.

Gary - G4WGT.

2009/11/30 Mike Dennison <mike.dennison@ntlworld.com= >
Roman,

Thanks but I get an error message on that web address.

Mike
=3D=3D=3D=3D

> Hi Mike!
> Started my grabber on for the night overview.
> qrss.nm.ru
>
> * Mike Dennison <mik= e.dennison@ntlworld.com> [Mon, 30 Nov 2009
> 17:59:34 -0000]: > I will be transmitting "XDV" overnigh= t (1800 - 0900
> UTC) tonight > using QRSS60 on 136.3180kHz. DX reports are welcome= . >
> > Mike. G3XDV > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >
>
>
> --
> Roman RW3ADB.
>
>




--000e0cd290b2db0b2f04799d6d5f-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB032-aba4afcc7ff267; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:44:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB038-aba4afcc7ff267; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:44:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8m7o-0000Sp-PZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:43:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8m7o-0000Sg-AF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:43:00 +0000 Received: from mcgi46.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.70]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8m7n-0002UH-MQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:43:00 +0000 Received: from mcgi46.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi46.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7296C11461 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:42:53 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [81.195.24.194] by mcgi46.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:42:53 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:42:53 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <563642.98089.qm@web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001801ca63ec$609a7f50$0900a8c0@lark> <1137672253.1258078875.51923096.88013@mcgi74.rambler.ru> Message-Id: <1252390210.1258080173.155671268.71029@mcgi46.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Joe, LF agn! Looking my grabber, pse. qrss.nm.ru I see dial freq 506.6 USB now. Weak trace on 507.763 kHz visible in 10. Nothing on 507.3 > I know who is it on the ~507.8 now: > > b.. VO1NA has been assigned VX9MRC and is reported on 507.77 > > and > > 508.5 kHz > 73! -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (rly-ma07.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.51]) by air-ma07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA073-8bc4aee06f7215; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:09:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA076-8bc4aee06f7215; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:08:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N4iaf-0002WW-OO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:08:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N4iaf-0002WN-1k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:08:01 +0000 Received: from smtp824.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.234]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N4iZ7-0002yI-Ek for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:06:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 82048 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2009 22:07:54 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=IHdRtTVh5Ld1VBU01LItBLVoAN8ZS8roH+5Nuc/6G61m4gW+WODbvPfudJfkEiFgAhcx8KL7sChk5HsMDzllB+H7PpzhO6+NeC+cJh/PEneNPU1ugOOWy3A9NShqEeevGJSjCXfDu6mE8u4adR0llLYVYo2jKai5WOJNWQ3K+O8= ; Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.176.86.179 with login) by smtp824.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Nov 2009 22:07:53 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: qKIhhNCswBB2TTHr2BORWcGGR2mpopxhCcunGIxpCKQYiG07Q7UOhNo- X-YMail-OSG: 98iaJrUVM1mrd9e3HGAYKgvUAVxXAaCH.aJ9c6wdB7sdlZ1JapsFmBL.LOeWgwVw0djoUxeKjk7depRxBPGDdNnrjPHEAK9ekU9J8teZx2Fm.ZPXVwlfreMpxax74kQ8HQ0AtlpqEazZorIJF2n.aV9Z3nPyPh1ecY5pLbc0T_AlVQX7x9hfe8ELLBgIJ5WtsflA6J2EAm2TJWSFcpFvPl7S13VlO3t2NyZygm_tmYL.huexfJ0fPbs50l7_7no2x0DrEZfkpe.UE6QKmUI2EG5r354d7qj1Dspz X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4F89D5F0D43E42F9B344F909CACE0ECD@JimPC> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <9afca2640910310528p4f07557aifdc0557a68bfeff8@mail.gmail.com> <004501ca5a35$30eff840$0900a8c0@lark> In-Reply-To: <004501ca5a35$30eff840$0900a8c0@lark> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 22:07:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz attenuation graphs? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Alan, LF Group, G3NYK wrote: > Generally at LF the skywave starts to equal or exceed the > groundwave strength at ranges exceeding 700km. It may be a little less > that > that at 500k. ...And yet, when I watch the signal level of G4JNT's WSPR beacon at night, I see short duration deep fades of 20 - 30 dB quite often, and sometimes enhancements over the daytime level of several dB also. During the day, the signal level shows very little variation. So even at a distance of about 120km, it would seem the ground wave an sky wave strengths must be comparable, in order to produce the fades. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg02.mx.aol.com (rly-dg02.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.86]) by air-dg04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG044-5a64afd45502eb; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:39:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG021-5a64afd45502eb; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:38:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8uTb-0001wa-Lz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:38:03 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8uTb-0001wR-3q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:38:03 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.152]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8uTZ-0003vv-4C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:38:03 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3426.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7C8B61C00082 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:37:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3426.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6E9B31C00086 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:37:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.59.9]) by mwinf3426.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id DBBA71C00082 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:37:50 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091113113750900.DBBA71C00082@mwinf3426.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <52D04D6834A64696BE0A3AA0F9003339@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <563642.98089.qm@web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001801ca63ec$609a7f50$0900a8c0@lark> In-Reply-To: <001801ca63ec$609a7f50$0900a8c0@lark> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:37:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Alan All is not quite as it seam's ! During the convoluted discussions with Offcomm , over the establishment of the GB4FPR 500 nov for a perm ant special event station .. which was established with the intent of conducting both experimental and normal armature radio activity's, the licensing officer at Offcom made the statement that 'he had no issues with normal armature activity on 500' and duly issued the nov to the station in time for the forth coming International Marconi Day. So for those who hold the uk 500 nov it would appeared though slightly restricted in bandwidth 'we' are perhaps the most empowered by the licensing authority's .. we even have a official beacon .. not that the others are not, its just that it did cross more than the countries boundary's when established. Three cheers to Offcom (and by the way can you do anything about the mains network adaptors please) G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Alan Melia" Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 11:02 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? > > Graham its like our Offcomm....read it that it doesnt say they can't! Dont > ask or the answer is always NO, the safest response for a Civil Serpent > :-)) > > Alan G3NYK > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graham" > To: > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 10:33 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature > stations ?? > > > Peter, > > I'm reading that .. but what am I reading ..is it yes or no ? > > G.. > > > From: M0FMT > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:55 PM > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature > stations ?? > > > Just more boring old Beacon stations claging up MF.....look on RAC > web > site... http://www.rac.ca/ ........ > > 2008-11-10 > Canadian Amateurs on 600 Metres Industry Canada has accepted an RAC > proposal whereby selected Canadian radio amateurs would be permitted to > operate in the vicinity of 500 kHz. These amateur operations would support > Canada's efforts to action a proposal on the agenda of the 2011 World > Radio > Conference (WRC2011) which, if adopted, would create an amateur allocation > in the 600-meter band. Industry Canada have authorized RAC to recommend > amateurs who would be licensed to operate in the 504 to 509 kHz band with > a > maximum power of 20 watts ERP and bandwidth up to 1 kHz. Stations > operating > in this band would be technically operating under Special Developmental > Licenses although they would all be radio amateurs. Distinct call signs > would be used and the licenses would be renewable annually subject to the > amateur demonstrating the research he has carried out. More information > will > follow shortly in the pages of TCA or via subsequent bulletins. Bryan > Rawlings VE3QN/VE2QNN Radio Amateurs of/du Canada, Inc. > > > 73 petefmt > > --- On Thu, 12/11/09, Graham wrote: > > > From: Graham > Subject: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature > stations ?? > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 21:43 > > > Can anyone clarify the situation as to who can work who > is this the same as the USA ? > > Tnx - G .. > From the IARU web site > As of 30 October 2009 Canada issued two licences in the > Developmental Service in the range 504-509 kHz. > a.. VE1ZZ has been assigned VX9PSO and is reported on 504.6 kHz > b.. VO1NA has been assigned VX9MRC and is reported on 507.77 and > 508.5 kHz > Two more stations, VE3OHH and VE7BDQ, are expected to become active > soon. > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG024-a2c4aedece422b; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 15:17:50 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG086-a2c4aedece422b; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 15:17:43 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N4gr1-0001qH-0B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 20:16:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N4gr0-0001q8-Jw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 20:16:46 +0000 Received: from mail-pz0-f179.google.com ([209.85.222.179]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N4gpS-0002RB-BU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 20:15:11 +0000 Received: by pzk9 with SMTP id 9so2676327pzk.16 for ; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:16:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=BH8+JOW1knzFfhzmY4fo0/zRCgt4xa6PlyJkbo8ScFQ=; b=mNXvVSjimlMc9616nu+ydadyDfsf9qQOFrhB2zOnVU6F3Oa5VILiibavuALYuK7NaN 9lspqzd5ck+vmLeLi+d9ycZpiq4OI6XpoC9PuV6KaI6rSoMWpcHe8vn4hqt/go0RKoIM e6E1bkoIzvx/IBLYkqN4Tw/W5s4+/g+crh1V4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=WVQ1NpsuqHkZh1IjpgBKpSMHpT8OPOPGlQYzkc3HqzKwtiNA2n5eZQmG4P3AVJNF4x VAarfpdKcb0YgtCa2KEoc+JtHdyL23/RShAwrTLoCHyw/xfqMQYo5scCAj3nQ0gHbJ4E KRcRKHyEXZPPiUSpF9MUhmBi5fkxcrpFgYnLo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.172.7 with SMTP id u7mr205512rve.45.1257106597485; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:16:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 20:16:37 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: edc1d2bda4ca3d27 Message-ID: <1f0624b90911011216la3f2f04h192f78189d73c5c3@mail.gmail.com> From: Gary - G4WGT To: Rsgb_Lf_Group X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: G4ENZ ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd295a2301ef4047754f0e5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d263.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0cd295a2301ef4047754f0e5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi All, G4ENZ has just appeared on the WSPR Spots page but it seems to be incorrect as he is operating on 80 metres at the moment & there is only one spot on 500kHz. The spotter must have the WSPR Rx freq set wrong. 73 Gary - G4WGT. --000e0cd295a2301ef4047754f0e5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All,=

G4ENZ has just appeared on the WSPR Spots page but it seems to be= incorrect as he is operating on 80 metres at the moment & there is on= ly one spot on 500kHz. The spotter must have the WSPR Rx freq set wrong.

73

Gary - G4WGT.




--000e0cd295a2301ef4047754f0e5-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA033-a7e4af204f7321; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:49:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA076-a7e4af204f7321; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:49:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N5oeV-00089g-Pj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:48:31 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N5oeV-00089X-Ad for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:48:31 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N5oeP-0000ge-KQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:48:31 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so9714317bwz.4 for ; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:48:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jMHd38GODen1jvnN/xn9w+eos12sxjTIhhRRtIG/IR4=; b=N+ggZVmqzKMc/QAg8IOXRdtZlYAcRY/RlGKHauYQuXkrdWwyoN6t7pJ7CitjeEitV+ doPNOncB9GV1hB7AoNl95tHB+LdUJcSVLYVg+2Jj5CZgFlM+A6FOOvUo+WbKuYkrOo66 To3pv/oF8p/5feBCHN2P/MZnDrYam6IPzgKbA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=e6U4He+S5ZKs35QBj47RjgoSxZgwIGEi3EFt1PyK7xto/DzDlUwusl/tcroxC1Hoer Cv4HNVtYV7227r7CAIuQdZ735e9+E2bDNaWOMoQg6nH16NFvl7v37/Rh+SB5AUe1yqRa c3bBuhWeIDeyigQMVt2iwjEG0cYLpAiby0qB4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.15.22 with SMTP id i22mr2178081bka.13.1257374899846; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:48:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4AF1FA9D.8070804@virgin.net> References: <9afca2640910310528p4f07557aifdc0557a68bfeff8@mail.gmail.com> <002b01ca5c10$0ccec4f0$0201a8c0@Clemens04> <4AF1B717.31461.F2160F@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> <4AF1FA9D.8070804@virgin.net> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 22:48:19 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911041448h40136478tc654624899dc42da@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500kHz attenuation graphs? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00032555bd464140b8047793686c X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m226.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --00032555bd464140b8047793686c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks Ian. At first glance this looks most useful. 73s Roger G3XBM 2009/11/4 Ian Marsh > Wonder if this would help. It's a free BBC document on the estimation of > LF/MF broadcast service areas. There are graphs for the 200 KHz to 1500 KHz > region for differing ground conductivities. It's available at: > > http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/reports/1975-01.pdf > > Older editions of the NAB Engineering Handbook at least had graphs for the > MW broadcast band if I remember correctly but someone seems to have lifted > our work copy and the latest edition is priced at $199. > > Cheers > > Ian / G4EXD > > > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --00032555bd464140b8047793686c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Ian. At first glance this looks most useful.

73s
Roger G3= XBM

2009/11/4 Ian Marsh <i.marsh@virgin.net>
Wonder if this= would help. It's a free BBC document on the estimation of LF/MF broad= cast service areas. There are graphs for the 200 KHz to 1500 KHz region fo= r differing ground conductivities. It's available at:

http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/reports/1975-01.pdf

Older editions of the NAB Engineering Handbook at least had graphs for the= MW broadcast band if I remember correctly but someone seems to have lifte= d our work copy and the latest edition is priced at $199.

Cheers

Ian / G4EXD






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--00032555bd464140b8047793686c-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da04.mx.aol.com (rly-da04.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.78]) by air-da03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA033-a644b0099b1f1; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:16:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA044-a644b0099b1f1; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:15:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9pEq-0003FO-RS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:14:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9pEq-0003FF-FY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:14:36 +0000 Received: from mail-yw0-f193.google.com ([209.85.211.193]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9pEp-0004EQ-R9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:14:36 +0000 Received: by ywh31 with SMTP id 31so11367196ywh.30 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:14:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=m2J023oRC10Z1N4+Bv8MyxG/hY7jb/htcMeNivtaHOs=; b=QVVnofH/sh5uAv/9ef5K8k5KwESHl2rC3BLygnlkxHbhGcteUm/QbCYSm9rK+L4E12 mUGhKUcOSuBEDO0tzYRuaGMTJ55YFNBrST+c3w4WSEomNg8Nv2lVCUDj8HZM4+C39GCp XDuhtEbJ1DMTDNw2hyPGAF+/pPu5gFQaBMHT8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=qujoXK7WxU2ofQ9n+5cvXlxUKuWtNlh4N4HoUfOp01A5XSUGZCFU7hO1s1K7Zx3WCz JnRF3ZpmAveUJWiJ5yo6uuuQZhnL/729Ly9Zk1B6kKsszjlsUOSdxUQKsOpVFVwsY4up rZBoKCTYtKMf++8hZP7oa40c8Zec9a/kQYW3k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.117.25 with SMTP id p25mr12300858ybc.139.1258330468936; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:14:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1043378010.1258326083.160784844.95853@mcgi39.rambler.ru> References: <1043378010.1258326083.160784844.95853@mcgi39.rambler.ru> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:14:28 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70911151614q7185951ud60c7e913ad36978@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Who is it? 507.300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m221.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Roman, That is Bob WE2XGR/6 (W2ZM) running 200W ERP frrom Rochester,NY -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Roman RW3ADB wrote: > > Hi LF! > What is a signal we can see around 507.300 kHz onto G4WGT grabber now? > Who is it? > Too many times I can see a CW-like trace on that freq every night. > Between 507.3 and 507.4 are visible now. > > -- > Roman RW3ADB. > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb02.mx.aol.com (rly-mb02.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.155]) by air-mb01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB012-cf34b03264b357; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:40:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB027-cf34b03264b357; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:40:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAWhv-00073I-GH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:39:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAWhv-000739-3p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:39:31 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAWht-0002h8-Q7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:39:31 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so575694bwz.4 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:39:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=UrFqGnKmjeWArdZYez2sOHoyva1Y+a57NvxQqExn2yc=; b=CAdjdy7lqkL6ksGtb5CAcn+lPjjDeVJ1LcuvKRMNtACbgsqTLY5MTYITgDYnBLlZkW uI7sxqGN4IaGw9jxmHPWoFvot6EIDJkXqALySSZRenoDmFSmLiUUCWGc+SdKnGIBkn3z dJsY8iuMHjZ4dj9JYi3f3tvi7ZQwwbT8Laexg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=s1jwe5w0Y0MZdOlV8x5xBQsIE4V0VwDpysobmQdzgg+bGe3Epf+j+10/kaujiRd8m1 zJkb6nDHVeBYTyqqmCQIcX8D3bZPpsR/j/H4DjSEwDG4rQ7dVOPGMGWOU9Quzz2inXW0 7gVigVdmt37XY0D1LpyhORR/X9rlMPwVrxXjI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.90.70 with SMTP id d48mr1029031wef.159.1258497563585; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:39:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:39:23 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911171439r5f3352bcpc45b7052fa55b354@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500kHz conditions good Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d566403a6f48047898cc4f X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m233.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0016e6d566403a6f48047898cc4f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Not sure why, but I am getting some excellent reports on 500kHz WSPR this even from some decent distances. Are conditions especially good for some reason tonight? My WSPR beacon will run overnight tonight to see what happens. 73s Roger G3XBM -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --0016e6d566403a6f48047898cc4f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not sure why, but I am getting some excellent reports on 500kHz WSPR this= even from some decent distances. Are conditions especially good for some= reason tonight?

My WSPR beacon will run overnight tonight to see= what happens.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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--0016e6d566403a6f48047898cc4f-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (rly-mf06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.176]) by air-mf06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF061-96a4af2baa718f; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:44:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF068-96a4af2baa718f; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:44:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N60kn-0001TQ-PF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:43:49 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N60kn-0001TH-CM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:43:49 +0000 Received: from smtp21.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.3]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N60kl-0006Fb-Pl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:43:49 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2112.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 612307000090 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 12:43:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (145.220.195-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.195.220.145]) by msfrf2112.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 224547000085 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 12:43:38 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091105114338140.224547000085@msfrf2112.sfr.fr Message-ID: <001501ca5e0d$2c771d30$0201a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: References: <001901ca5dfa$4e55bf50$0201a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> <4AF2B89D.6040001@inext.at> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 12:43:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091104-1, 04/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: dk7fc.....f8boj beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 HI OSSI...and LF Group thank you to you to control you too last night you were very strong qrss10 here .. Claude F8boj JN16WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oberreiter Oswald" To: Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 12:35 PM Subject: Re: LF: dk7fc.....f8boj beacon > HI Claude > strong signal today here 20 db over nois ! > 73 de ossi oe5odl > > Claude Berthebaud schrieb: >> HI LF and DK7FC >> Hello stefan open the beacon to day for 137705.0hz qrss3 >> very good day >> Claude F8boj JN16WA > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df02.mx.aol.com (rly-df02.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.15]) by air-df08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF082-5334b002bd51aa; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:27:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF026-5334b002bd51aa; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:27:03 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9hvS-0007fM-JX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:26:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9hvS-0007fD-1I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:26:06 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f211.google.com ([209.85.220.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9hvQ-0001kS-PD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:26:06 +0000 Received: by fxm3 with SMTP id 3so348250fxm.4 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:25:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=V2IKkidlBvbFJCpoUq4H/xlk5bhefAJvfhPfDCf0B5g=; b=FRFUrarnr3fPZZIz/dxYVC4ZsMEE9/sRYohwuBOF5/qSifpXoNNLqEhsrbzv/og4qz K3+fGxJnEbecKozuIpG6VJSEye2SVOOhS1b//vJEEmGKR1WBQtoj9OetWbect6NSY7ey LoaKFCGG1YsBk5zgTfQNP8WPoURVa5VuvzYMI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=q9ljZValk470QTR5lWG0bPdnEfNLyjakYgZevNp51GzL9Hkla63Nrv2ocJsdk6Z4wT v/3oLaqdFTOYFyWOXogwGhzYkLgROaGhG339EStzFmMZVbxJL36cPjyJBrDm3cyA9piG TmziiBcv4FVzi8LyENZrZa3C9LGFYu/5m+y+E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.143.151 with SMTP id v23mr3038840bku.169.1258302358623; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:25:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <041601ca660c$2c6b9850$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <9afca2640911150409x1389fd48q451284c2e0ee43d5@mail.gmail.com> <03a301ca65ee$020ae250$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <9afca2640911150509x387471dcxa7e5ffa73e8ec9cb@mail.gmail.com> <040901ca6609$73095250$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <041601ca660c$2c6b9850$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:25:58 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911150825q1d827944p7486ccc38d0676e6@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: G3XBM on CW at noon? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175d06061b17b604786b59e0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m269.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0015175d06061b17b604786b59e0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Just worked Chris G3XIZ Mal. 73s Roger G3XBM 2009/11/15 mal hamilton > PS > G3XBM nw cq at 1550 utc. Other stns on band. Am I the only one that can > copy him ? > g3kev > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* mal hamilton > *To:* Roger Lapthorn > *Cc:* rsgb > *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2009 3:36 PM > *Subject:* LF: Re: G3XBM on CW at noon? > > Pleased u made it to Scarborough, good Q5 but weak. No need for wspr. Lots > of other CW acty on band today, hpe u work some more. > 73 gud dxing mal/g3kev > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Roger Lapthorn > *To:* mal hamilton > *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2009 1:09 PM > *Subject:* Re: G3XBM on CW at noon? > > Many thanks Mal for my very first 2-way 500kHz CW QSO. You've good ears my > friend! > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > 2009/11/15 mal hamilton > >> Well Roger u made it to Scarborough on CW, solid copy Q5 but I doubt if >> WSPR would have decoded your signal. >> Tnx the 569 >> good DX ing >> 73 de mal/g3kev >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Roger Lapthorn >> *To:* g3kevmal@talktalk.net >> *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2009 12:09 PM >> *Subject:* G3XBM on CW at noon? >> >> Think you* may* have heard me on 500kHz around noon Mal. You called "QRZ >> G3X"several times but failed to get me. >> >> Will try again. >> >> 73s >> Roger G3XBM (2mW ERP) >> >> -- >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ >> http://www.g3xbm.co.uk >> G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.65/2503 - Release Date: 11/14/09 >> 19:42:00 >> >> > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > > ------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.65/2503 - Release Date: 11/14/09 > 19:42:00 > > ------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.65/2503 - Release Date: 11/14/09 > 19:42:00 > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --0015175d06061b17b604786b59e0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just worked Chris G3XIZ Mal.

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/11/15 mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
PS
G3XBM nw cq at 1550 utc. Other stns= on band. Am I=20 the only one that can copy him ?
g3kev
=A0
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mal=20 hamilton
Cc: rsgb
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009= 3:36=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: G3XBM on CW at= =20 noon?

Pleased u made it to Scarborough,= good Q5 but=20 weak. No need for wspr. Lots of other CW acty on band today, hpe u work= some=20 more.
73 gud dxing mal/g3kev
=A0
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 20= 09 1:09=20 PM
Subject: Re: G3XBM on CW at= noon?

Many thanks Mal for my very first 2-way 500kHz CW QSO.= You've=20 good ears my friend!

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/11/15 mal hamilton &= lt;g3kevmal@tal= ktalk.net>
Well Roger u made it to Scarbor= ough on CW,=20 solid copy=A0Q5 but I doubt if WSPR would have decoded=A0your=20 signal.
Tnx the 569
good=A0DX=A0ing
73 de mal/g3kev=A0
=A0=A0
-----=20 Original Message -----
From:=20 Roger Lapthorn
Sent:=20 Sunday, November 15, 2009 12:09 PM
Subject:=20 G3XBM on CW at noon?

Think you may have heard me on 500kHz around= noon=20 Mal. You called "QRZ G3X"several times but failed to get= me.

Will=20 try again.

73s
Roger G3XBM (2mW ERP)
--=20
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http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678=20 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by= AVG -=20 www.avg.com=
Version:=20 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.65/2503 - Release Date: 11/14/09= =20 19:42:00



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http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM =A0=20 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG= -=20 www.avg.com
V= ersion: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.65/2503 - Release=20 Date: 11/14/09 19:42:00


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG -= =20 www.avg.com
Ver= sion: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.65/2503 - Release=20 Date: 11/14/09 19:42:00



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--0015175d06061b17b604786b59e0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc02.mx.aol.com (rly-mc02.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.86]) by air-mc08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC083-d5d4b02c90f39a; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:02:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC025-d5d4b02c90f39a; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:02:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAQUh-0003os-Ot for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:01:27 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAQUh-0003oj-3s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:01:27 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAQUe-0001FA-T5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:01:27 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC627B8067 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:01:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from PC_van_Rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-106.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.106]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F44BF3863 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:01:09 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:01:10 +0100 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <9afca2640911170734u7ebc121em5be88d61d99be249@mail.gmail.co m> References: <9afca2640911170243q3b4e2c95kb2668b937e727070@mail.gmail.com> <4B02BF9E.5020701@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <9afca2640911170734u7ebc121em5be88d61d99be249@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091117160109.6F44BF3863@smtps02.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 136kHz WSPR tests Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_29911444==.ALT" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --=====================_29911444==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Roger, it could turn out that WSPR-ing is bad for your stomach ;-) 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T At 16:34 17/11/2009, you wrote: >John, > >If you manage to hear me on 136kHz I shall eat my hat. > >...but then I nearly said that last time about 500kHz!! > >73s >Roger G3XBM > >2009/11/17 John P-G ><gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> >Roger Lapthorn wrote: >Dear all, > >Very encouraged by my results at 500kHz, I'd like to try some "low ERP" WSPR >tests on 136kHz using the same small antenna and transverter (slightly >modified). > > >Let me know and I'll be watching! > >Cheers, > >John >GM4SLV > > > > > >-- >------------------------------------------------------------- >http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ >http://www.g3xbm.co.uk >G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --=====================_29911444==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Roger,

it could turn out that WSPR-ing is bad for your stomach ;-)

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


At 16:34 17/11/2009, you wrote:
John,

If you manage to hear me on 136kHz I shall eat my hat.

...but then I nearly said that last time about 500kHz!!

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/11/17 John P-G < gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
Roger Lapthorn wrote:
Dear all,

Very encouraged by my results at 500kHz, I'd like to try some "low ERP" WSPR
tests on 136kHz using the same small antenna and transverter (slightly
modified). 


Let me know and I'll be watching!

Cheers,

John
GM4SLV





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http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088
--=====================_29911444==.ALT-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb08.mx.aol.com (rly-mb08.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.166]) by air-mb08.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMB082-d1d4b141c71c7; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:27:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB081-d1d4b141c71c7; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:26:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NFBsY-0008CQ-G6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:25:46 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NFBsY-0008CH-3b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:25:46 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NFBsW-0004rr-7w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:25:46 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 980D54C80AD for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:25:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACEC04C8184 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:25:38 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B141C32.90105@online.fr> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:25:38 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001201ca71e6$f8fe42b0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <001901ca71f0$fb60b830$0201a8c0@F8BOJSQUSV2QH5> In-Reply-To: <001901ca71f0$fb60b830$0201a8c0@F8BOJSQUSV2QH5> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: F8BOJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Claude , Jay , Congratulations Claude , I think that it is first T/A F to W ! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj claude berthebaud a =E9crit : > Hi Jay and LF > > Thank you for the information I'm going up a little higher in frequency > In any case thank you for this transatlantic reception .... > may be a QSO soon I'll be happy > Claude F8boj JN16wa > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep" > Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 7:00 PM > Subject: LF: F8BOJ > > >> BOJ very close to Loran line making reception difficult in North=20 >> America. >> >> Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de02.mx.aol.com (rly-de02.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.138]) by air-de01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE014-4b94afbd9ec378; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:48:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE024-4b94afbd9ec378; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:48:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8WH8-0006DY-Ko for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:47:34 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8WH8-0006DP-1D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:47:34 +0000 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8WH6-0002vO-E2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:47:33 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.1]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091112094722.BPZK17277.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:47:22 +0000 Received: from [86.27.93.99] (helo=jimdesk) by know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8WGv-0006r8-So for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:47:22 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: References: <4AFB477C.5090604@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <001501ca6326$ff28c710$0617aac0@jimdesk> <00f301ca6329$8ba907c0$0900a8c0@lark> <001901ca632a$d3356ab0$0617aac0@jimdesk> <011201ca6332$23e930c0$0900a8c0@lark> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:47:20 -0000 Message-ID: <000301ca637d$20bd9e40$0617aac0@jimdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcpjMlBJFXeN4Z2BTFaI0bB3F1Ju2gASmEMg In-Reply-To: <011201ca6332$23e930c0$0900a8c0@lark> X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=sKl0yPpJp1MA:10 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=8RloEfZUAAAA:8 a=ucZTuQLQxCvYkBNsjUkA:9 a=iS_JaMjvURPXLmeMT3wA:7 a=mO9LmdeeNFAFhky74vPi75PM7IgA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=O58u2wXj750A:10 a=SOC50V_PD97yeAWx:21 a=jCWr6k8wQ4GK5RpH:21 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Alan Thanks for the pointers here. Very useful. As it transpires, the laptop psu is now interfering on Rx so a loop has opened up somewhere. I'm going to dismantle the whole set up and re-wire/reroute from scratch....god help me!! I should have taken up stamp collecting as a hobby! With best regards Jim Dr. James Cowburn -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia Sent: 12 November 2009 00:25 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: RE: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! Ah the dreaded laptop. Ok the isolation that is agood idea in that case you must make sure you have some Rf grounds somewhere. Laptops seem to float there is not reason (for the digital engineers who designed them anyway) to put an earth on the metalwork. The RF circuitating in those leads might be inducing hum. It might be worth trying an earth on any suitable but of the laptop metalwork....socket pillars ?? It definitely sounds as though it is hum getting into the PC sound system. Good Luck with it. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Cowburn" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 11:58 PM Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! > The soundcard leads are via an opto-isolator interface and the leads from > the interface to laptop are wound on ferrite cores, approx 8 turns each for > tx and rx. > > I will check the mains psu for the dell d610 laptop as that could be > introducing hum or picking up rf from the tx (IC-735). It might need > ferrites on the leads to and from the SMPSU > > I've just turned "the wick" down on the tx/rx inputs and also the rf gain on > ic 735 till the needle just shifted in case it was being over-driven so I'll > see how that works. > > Not a prob when I was QRPpp but as sigs improve with dark nights I'd noticed > it too > > Thanks to John and others for heads up and suggestions > > With best regards > > > Jim > > > Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia > Sent: 11 November 2009 23:49 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: Re: RE: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! > > Hi Jim what kind of PC are you using. If a desktop are to sure it has the > mains safety earth connected.....I have come across this problem before some > 3 connecter IEC moulded leads with only two wires in them!! If a laptop then > unless you use a radio earth that may all be floating. Sometimes it is > necessary to use an tranformer on the audio leads to and from the PC to gain > isolation from the hum and noise. I use old telephone hybrid transformers > 600ohm to 600 ohm ferrite cored. > > Best Wishes > Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Cowburn" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 11:30 PM > Subject: LF: RE: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! > > > > Hi John > > > > I'll have a look see. I've noticed on strong sigs from me (few and far > > between!) I get multiple decodes +50 and -50. I'm not aware of any > obvious > > mains hum if I monitor my outgoing sigs and all leads are wound on ferrite > > cores, but clearly something is amiss. > > > > I shall look into it and see what I can find > > > > Cheers for the heads up > > > > With best regards > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > Dr. James Cowburn > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John P-G > > Sent: 11 November 2009 23:24 > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: LF: G7NKS multiple WSPR decodes! > > > > Jim. LF > > > > It looks like G7NKS has a 50/100Hz problem on the audio - both in TX and > > RX directions - there are up to 3 decodes by Jim of a single station (eg > > G3YXM), spaced by 50 & 100Hz and I see also that M0BMU is also reporting > > multiple decodes of G7NKS with the same 50/100Hz spacing. > > > > Jim, have you some mains hum affecting the audio in/out of the PC? > > > > Cheers, > > > > John > > GM4SLV > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df02.mx.aol.com (rly-df02.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.15]) by air-df08.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDF084-5324b0d6beb11a; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:40:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF025-5324b0d6beb11a; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:39:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDLpQ-0005Zo-3E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:38:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDLpP-0005Zf-I7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:38:55 +0000 Received: from mailout09.t-online.de ([194.25.134.84]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDLpO-0002te-SI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:38:55 +0000 Received: from fwd11.aul.t-online.de by mailout09.t-online.de with smtp id 1NDLpN-0004oA-01; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:38:53 +0100 Received: from df2py (XRnda+ZZghHWHSPHll8NIcJWuXdOAvnBTH2AdErdDEMxgp3jp7nkItxNOUI7sahQoo@[80.187.109.101]) by fwd11.t-online.de with esmtp id 1NDLoO-1cH4kK0; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:37:52 +0100 From: "Wolf Ostwald" To: Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:39:35 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: Acpt9kDoryCLGG2DTPKD6nhtumnM9w== X-ID: XRnda+ZZghHWHSPHll8NIcJWuXdOAvnBTH2AdErdDEMxgp3jp7nkItxNOUI7sahQoo X-TOI-MSGID: 438b236c-594e-44c1-a1b0-570f30c583dd X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: DI2BJ active tonite Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0043_01CA6DFE.A51E0810" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01CA6DFE.A51E0810 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello ! DI2BJ will be active on 505.030 regular cw tonite until about 21z 73 de wolf ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01CA6DFE.A51E0810 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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DI2BJ will be active on 50= 5.030 regular cw tonite until about 21z

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------=_NextPart_000_0043_01CA6DFE.A51E0810-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de10.mx.aol.com (rly-de10.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.146]) by air-de02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE023-5064af9b3d41f0; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:42:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE101-5064af9b3d41f0; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:41:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7vdl-0008T4-6k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:40:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7vdk-0008Sv-6d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:40:28 +0000 Received: from mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.47]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7vdg-0004zR-JT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:40:27 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-3.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.3]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091110184017.OMWM17029.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-3.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:40:17 +0000 Received: from [86.27.93.99] (helo=jimdesk) by know-smtpout-3.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7vdY-0007kR-3z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:40:17 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: References: <112811.74996.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001b01ca6225$fcddd970$0617aac0@jimdesk> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:40:15 -0000 Message-ID: <003801ca6235$3f117d60$0617aac0@jimdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcpiKnccpknhyqTZQoSPBPPTBvmFFAACJPMg In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=LqAi-wNJwEQA:10 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=8RloEfZUAAAA:8 a=BrDiTsk0AAAA:8 a=3s14aSalXFHYvSBOJpIA:9 a=Mnp3K9HOTAgYvAvHvMQA:7 a=3B8ZOuQcvohxCbzdSUu9ASSD-zkA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=O58u2wXj750A:10 a=-hJg1tCh9CgA:10 a=dFu11oANBRGOJk9G:21 a=9y-bC9Ov5BwSZ8S1:21 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=pnH_WYKbQ4GFdAz7_nUA:9 a=yNNlkLK3GDTw6JWxUeQA:7 a=yvaYhm3Zk5Ws_umhWKuiS_LS_UgA:4 a=uz9WFDYR8rEVSbXM:21 a=oVQ0pJmZRmrf93L8:21 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0039_01CA6235.3F117D60" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING, LINES_OF_YELLING_2 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01CA6235.3F117D60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Dennis Not offended at all, more alarmed and disappointed that I have been causing you problems and grief. As the "new boy to the band" I did not realize I was operating on top of your frequency. Many apologies to you, Chris (and probably Pete too) for my QRM. If you can let me know the sorts of times that you want to work the band then I'll endeavour to keep in Rx only mode or QRT during those times. Chris did suggest that if I could avoid "WSPRing" on Saturday and Sunday mornings when a lot of CW QSOs are underway then that would help. If there are any evening segments or weekday slots that I could also avoid then do let me know and hopefully we can find a good solution. I certainly don't want to be a "Johnny come lately" and ruin the band for all the other users With best regards Jim Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of DENNIS EASTERLING Sent: 10 November 2009 17:22 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Hi Jim I was speaking figuratively as you are so near and on my xtl frequency. My comment was directed at Chris' statment in email subject1000 QSOs, who also suffers and others who have complained about beacons in general. In fact the band is often dead for hours on end and it is nice to find any signal, beacon or QSO, especially when testing. My point is that is there should be room for both beacons and QSOs, then follows a suggestion that LFrs may like to come to some agreement about reserving a section for each mode. Hoping I did not offend, 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message ----- From: James Cowburn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 4:51 PM Subject: LF: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Hi Dennis I did not realize I was causing you QRM. A quick e-mail would have alerted me to it, rather than me being a "pain". I'm happy to work out a compromise where we operate at separate times or if you suggest a different frequency for me to work on. Just drop me a line with your ideas on this. With best regards Jim Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of DENNIS EASTERLING Sent: 10 November 2009 16:13 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Congratulations Chris. Most wspr stations seem to congregate at the top end of the band and are not too much trouble. Jim G7NKS is the biggest pain as he sits on my xtl frequency and is so close. Maybe a compromise would be for people using beacons to keep to one segment of the band (hopefully not 502.2 kHz -hee) 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Osborn To: LF Group Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 6:03 PM Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO LF It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m. This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 600m / 80m. Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0CF - No. 998. QSO break-down according to mode: 928 CW, 34 RTTY and 5 QRSS 600m STATIONS My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many of these go back to the start of the UK 600m allocation in March 2007. Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding beacons). Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of again: G3KZU, G3YHV . . . Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT: G3UNT, G3VTT, G4GDR. . . MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the same stations many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of my total contacts. My most frequently worked stations are: GW3UEP - 120 G3KEV - 102 M0FMT - 90 G3ZWH - 80 (alas now SK) G3DXZ - 67 G4GDR - 60 EI0CF/ GI4DPE - 51 M0JXM - 48 G3UNT - 45 G3VTT - 38 CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a cross-band QSO: DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . . and our few EU MF friends are still active: ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . . WSPR ON 600m I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for the WSPR mode was never achieved for hand sent Morse (CW), which after all is the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF marine band. If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stations operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band then I guess it may be time for me to QSY. 73 Chris G3XIZ ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01CA6235.3F117D60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Not offended at= all, more alarmed and disappointed that I have been causing you problems and grief. As the= “new boy to the band” I did not realize I was operating on top of you= r frequency.  

 

Many apologies= to you, Chris (and probably Pete too) for my QRM.  If you can let me know the sorts of times= that you want to work the band then I’ll endeavour to keep in Rx only mode or= QRT during those times.   Chris did suggest that if I could avoi= d “WSPRing” on Saturday and Sunday mornings when a lot of CW QSOs are underway the= n that would help. If there are any evening segments or weekday slots that I= could also avoid then do  let me know and  hopefully we can find= a good solution.

 

I certainly don= ’t want to be a “Johnny come lately” and ruin the band for all the other users

 

 

 

With best regar= ds

 

 

Jim=

 

 

Dr. James Cowbu= rn G7NKS

 

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org [mailto:owner-= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of DENNIS EASTERLING
Sent: 10 November 2009= 17:22
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re= : G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO

 

Hi Jim

 

I was speaking figuratively as you are= so near and on my xtl frequency.   My comment was directed at Chris'= statment in email subject1000 QSOs, who also suffers and others who have= complained about beacons in general.   In fact the band is often dead= for hours on end and it is nice to find any signal, beacon or QSO, especially wh= en testing.  My point is that  is there should be room for both beacons and QSOs,  then follows a suggest= ion that LFrs may like to come to some agreement about reserving a se= ction for each mode.

 

Hoping I did not offend, 73 Dennis M0JX= M

----- Original Message -----

Sent:= Tuesday, November 10, 2009 4:51 PM

Subject: LF: RE: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO

 

Hi Dennis<= /o:p>

 

I did not reali= ze I was causing you QRM.  A quick e-mail would have alerted me to it, rather than me being= a “pain”.   I’m happy to work out a compromi= se where we operate at separate times or if you suggest a different frequency= for me to work on. Just drop me a line with your ideas on this.

 

With best regar= ds

 

 

Jim=

 

 

Dr. James Cowbu= rn G7NKS

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org [mailto:owner-= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of DENNIS EASTERLING
Sent: 10 November 2009= 16:13
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: G3XIZ= - 1000 th MF QSO

 

Congratulations Chris.

 

Most wspr stations seem to congregate= at the top end of the band and are not too much trouble.    Jim G7NKS is the= biggest pain as he sits on my xtl frequency and is so close.   Maybe= a compromise would be for people using beacons to keep to one segment of= the band (hopefully not 502.2 kHz -hee)

 

73 Dennis M0JXM

----- Original Message -----

From: Chris Osborn

To: LF Group

Sent:= Sunday, November 08, 2009 6:03 PM

Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO

 

LF

It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m.<= br> This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 600m= / 80m.

Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0C= F - No. 998.

QSO break-down according to mode:     928 CW,  34 RTTY  and   5 QRSS

600m STATIONS

My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many of these go back to= the start of the UK  600m allocation in March 2007.
Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding= beacons).
Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of again:  G3KZU, G3YHV . . .
Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT:  G3U= NT, G3VTT, G4GDR. . .

MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED

With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the same= stations many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of my total contact= s.
My most frequently worked stations are:

GW3UEP - 120     G3KEV - 102   &nbs= p;  M0FMT - 90     G3ZWH  -  80  (alas= now SK)
G3DXZ    -   67     G4GDR -   60      EI0CF/ GI4DPE  -&n= bsp; 51   M0JXM - 48
G3UNT    -   45     G3VTT=   -   38

CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS

There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a cros= s-band QSO:
DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . .

and our few EU MF friends are still active:
ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . .

WSPR ON 600m

I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for the= WSPR mode was never achieved for  hand sent Morse (CW), which after all is= the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF marine band.
If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stations= operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band then I guess= it may be time for me to QSY.

73 Chris G3XIZ





 

------=_NextPart_000_0039_01CA6235.3F117D60-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df07.mx.aol.com (rly-df07.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.20]) by air-df02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF022-5644b03065bab; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:24:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF075-5644b03065bab; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:23:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAUZV-0005sT-VN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:22:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAUZV-0005sK-EP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:22:41 +0000 Received: from smtp828.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.13.163]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAUZU-00024N-86 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:22:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 3009 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2009 20:22:34 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=j10ZoevTjK+QvapPgbSB1DGJIppVZB2aCDuYApKa6VFfXLTbrMA4ipT4tZJheEF5edqO1q8xeN9RQA6W+hcDS0JmIIZRM3U38cZKmo4Xk4LwYhqHNvbMKRgthYrU9tdrIRKPdQ41E8gdcXk0gSf/v4/tYkFEW684DALBZeMOlwM= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@81.131.10.167 with login) by smtp828.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Nov 2009 20:22:33 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: KHdpK2OswBBXlm4uxknbEiS4uYdJoGknHN90u4K8__lTafnafZg- X-YMail-OSG: 5sT.7mkVM1n3tmBirG.OcXWEyCgqwfugzHGqobc13iaBi9mtg8pwHdW7FCsCZM4gScjiUS4TdAP9tvwrU8M6HKoxpqrzrcxzRrefaad5uSU.mlcUtsBSNhLTY2YGWTSu6c01XhZ5oRxsIiSKkvDjVjGQ9SDq6TktYB8GgwcrS9SffsZpaj6rtZ.xFARuACNvZBq.D_yeap3F9T0opV8E5xYTiUNAiZWH00LYucYjsZpqs6mtuGGEOhtJIp06Zg2FkuZjlyCXdnwWvF4fm0eKY2ip6qh76ghIFsoO72fWA2xcNq0hDF5wZ.JtgRwsbIzVBRzNo.Rid59r_QJKZcQ35g-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <005f01ca67c3$bd1f9e10$0900a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <626551.33117.qm@web63607.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <002e01ca66fa$9edc5f20$0900a8c0@lark> <4B02D40E.20804@usa.net> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:31:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: LEONIDS and propagation Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Yes I think you are right Alberto not even a type ...more likely faulty memory. I dont have a receiver on it at present......its an age thing you know :-)) Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alberto di Bene" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 4:49 PM Subject: LF: Re: LEONIDS and propagation > Alan Melia wrote: > > > In Europe, the Graves satellite radar on 140.050 is a good way to > > watch pings with something like Argo or Spectrum Lab. > > Alan, > > are you sure about that frequency ? I read on another group that > the Graves radar operates on 143.050 MHz > > I have no direct experience about that. I am just reporting what I read. > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (rly-dd10.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.157]) by air-dd10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD103-ba24b0803fd14c; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:15:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD104-ba24b0803fd14c; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:15:10 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBrfJ-0006M0-Gl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:14:21 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBrfJ-0006Lp-3V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:14:21 +0000 Received: from out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.239]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBrfH-0001Lo-33 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:14:21 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlUFAMOSB0tZ8EAi/2dsb2JhbACCJCyLOAbFSoQ8BA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,264,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="109710546" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([89.240.64.34]) by out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 21 Nov 2009 15:14:12 +0000 Message-ID: <005d01ca6abd$476e88f0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:14:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: SOFTROCK Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005A_01CA6ABD.471656D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01CA6ABD.471656D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a spare Softrock V6.2 RX/TX kit for 160m and could easily be mo= dified for 500 Khz de mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01CA6ABD.471656D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have a spare Softrock V6.2 RX/TX ki= t for 160m and=20 could easily be modified for 500 Khz
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------=_NextPart_000_005A_01CA6ABD.471656D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df01.mx.aol.com (rly-df01.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.14]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF032-5264b09c4343e3; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:07:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF013-5264b09c4343e3; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:07:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCLVf-0006IC-Lf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:06:23 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCLVf-0006I3-B3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:06:23 +0000 Received: from nina.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.76]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCLVe-0006Zu-Aw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:06:23 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by nina.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id nAMN6FaZ004243 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:36:15 -0330 Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:36:15 -0330 (NST) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" In-Reply-To: <20091122233452.scbqd6b8zcwk8gkg@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Message-ID: References: <4B04EADA.4090707@telus.net> <57a24ca70911190525s5bbf2768gcfe5e7150eb8f784@mail.gmail.com> <20091121211012.fehyrbxl4400ckc8@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <20091122233452.scbqd6b8zcwk8gkg@webmail6.kuleuven.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: VX9MRC Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Thanks Rik, Your grabber is very consistent. Looking for Jack on CW at the moment. 73 Joe On Sun, 22 Nov 2009, Rik Strobbe wrote: > Joe, > > good copy @22:25 UTC, see attached > > I will let the web grabber running overnight: > http://www.strobbe.eu/argo/argo.jpg > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc12.mx.aol.com (rly-mc12.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.96]) by air-mc08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC081-daf4b080e4f2c3; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:59:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC127-daf4b080e4f2c3; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:59:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBsLh-0006v5-Qw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:58:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBsLh-0006uw-7A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:58:09 +0000 Received: from nina.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.76]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBsLg-0000X8-44 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:58:09 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by nina.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id nALFw0SM021650 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:28:00 -0330 Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:28:00 -0330 (NST) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <57a24ca70911190525s5bbf2768gcfe5e7150eb8f784@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <4B04EADA.4090707@telus.net> <57a24ca70911190525s5bbf2768gcfe5e7150eb8f784@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: Joe don't drop the soap! Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear Group, Warren: Newfoundland and Labrador Canadians take our humour very seriously: we laugh at ourselves. "Gotta be some smart to know you's stund, b'y"! It is clear that everyone is not happy with the way 500 kHz was handled in Canada. I too have some strong reservations. In the mean time, VX9MRC is presently on 507.77 kHz transmitting QRSS10. Reports will be graciously accepted. Scott: Sorry for the delay and congrats on a well researched web page. A few minor editorial changes could improve it dramatically. Could you change '... Joe'e behaviour...' to 'conducing his studies in strict accordance with a 500 kHz experimental research proposal'? Your suscinct paraphrase of Craig et al. 2009 (pers. comm. by email of 14 Nov.) could be better worded to reflect the essential points. Perhaps it is best that you quote verbatim the full text for which you are herewith granted permision. Comments on Craig's ego and intentions are poorly substantiated and you would do well to investigate this further. You may find better evidence to support a hypotheses that Craig et al. was simultaneously conducting propagaton studies and contributing to the success and satisfaction of his esteemed research colleagues. You are very creative and I was wondering if you could make a QSL card for me with the Newfoundland Pirate motif! Please feel free to use my Halloween picture and your magnificent art work. Best Regards Joe VO1NA On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, Warren Ziegler wrote: > The Canadian sense of humor, how's it goin eh? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-ZvAVcBIrQ > > Take off for The Great White North! > - > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ > WD2XSH/23 > WE2XEB/2 > WE2XGR/1 > > > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 1:51 AM, Scott Tilley wrote: >> See the 600m Buttulator for the latest in this high seas drama... >> >> RAC speaks... >> >> 73 Scott >> http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/ >> >> > > > > - > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (rly-mg10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.116]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG092-a374af69ec060; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:34:47 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG101-a374af69ec060; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:34:42 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N755f-0004zZ-50 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:33:47 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N755d-0004zQ-TD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:33:45 +0000 Received: from mail0.citigroup.com ([192.193.221.105] helo=mail.citigroup.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N755b-0003jW-TN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:33:45 +0000 Received: from imbhub-mw02.nam.nsroot.net ([159.17.94.189]) by imbaspam-ss03.namdmz.dmzroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_EXT/ev: 24737 $) with ESMTP id nA8AXajC014559 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:33:37 GMT Received: from exlniht02.eur.nsroot.net (exlniht02.eur.nsroot.net [169.186.207.99]) by imbhub-mw02.nam.nsroot.net (Switch-3.4.0/Switch-3.4.0) with ESMTP id nA8AXY14005146 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:33:35 GMT Received: from exlnht01.eur.nsroot.net (169.182.192.16) by exlniht02.eur.nsroot.net (169.186.207.99) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.375.2; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:33:34 +0000 Received: from exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net ([169.186.207.105]) by exlnht01.eur.nsroot.net ([169.182.192.16]) with mapi; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:33:33 +0000 From: "Scholz, Marco " To: "'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'" Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:33:27 +0000 Thread-Topic: dd7pc F8boj Thread-Index: AcpgXNuWm0JfZ3jXRamY+mpxNjUwZAAAW7aw Message-ID: <254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C74A844F@exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net> References: <000601ca605c$4798bb90$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> In-Reply-To: <000601ca605c$4798bb90$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> Accept-Language: en-US, en-GB Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US, en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 169.175.16.182 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: dd7pc F8boj Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C74A844Fexlnmb06eurns_" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_000_254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C74A844Fexlnmb06eurns_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good morning CLaude, i'm very, very happy now about our QSO. Sending you in this moment my fina= l. That's my new ODX with 538km. Amazing with my light setup, but i benefit= from your good antenna. Please can i send you my QSL card direct? have a nice sunday vy73 Marco DD7PC mailto://dd7pc@gmx.de http://www.qsl.net/dd7pc ________________________________ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org] On Behalf Of Claude Berthebaud Sent: 08 November 2009 11:15 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: dd7pc F8boj HI Marco and LF Marco GM ur M in JN16WA...to day.. many thanks for the qso best 73 's Claude F8boj --_000_254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C74A844Fexlnmb06eurns_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Good morning CLaude,
i'm very, very happy now about our QSO. Se= nding you in this=20 moment my final.
That's my new ODX with 538km. Amazing with= my light setup,=20 but i benefit from your good antenna.
Please can i send you my QSL card=20 direct?
 
have a nice sunday
vy73
Marco
DD7PC
 

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o= rg=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Claude=20 Berthebaud
Sent: 08 November 2009 11:15
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: dd7pc=20 F8boj

HI Marco and LF
Marco GM ur M in JN16WA...to=20 day..
many thanks for the qso
best 73 's
Claude F8boj
--_000_254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C74A844Fexlnmb06eurns_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC014-b2f4b084cd11b1; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:25:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC073-b2f4b084cd11b1; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:25:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBwVv-0001fo-EN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:24:59 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBwVu-0001fd-U9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:24:58 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBwVs-0002oe-If for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:24:58 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3569F7B8047 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:24:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be [134.58.242.53]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29A5231E703 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:24:47 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail6.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix, from userid 48) id CAE8B18056; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:24:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from 62.8-180-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (62.8-180-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [91.180.8.62]) by webmail6.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:24:46 +0100 Message-ID: <20091121212446.0xip1qwmckkks004@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:24:46 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <4B04EADA.4090707@telus.net> <57a24ca70911190525s5bbf2768gcfe5e7150eb8f784@mail.gmail.com> <20091121211012.fehyrbxl4400ckc8@webmail6.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <20091121211012.fehyrbxl4400ckc8@webmail6.kuleuven.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 91.180.8.62 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: temporary grabber Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) As it is just a simple jpg (no html) you have to refresh yourself. Upload every 2 minutes The strong vertical lines are "made in Sweden" ;-) 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting Rik Strobbe : >> In the mean time, VX9MRC is presently on 507.77 kHz transmitting QRSS10 > > Hello Joe, > > I have set up a temporary 507.77 kHz grabber at > http://www.strobbe.eu/argo/argo.jpg > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df09.mx.aol.com (rly-df09.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.22]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF063-5794b0826c999; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:43:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF096-5794b0826c999; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:43:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBtxf-0007KF-ME for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:41:27 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBtxS-0007K6-9r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:41:15 +0000 Received: from smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com ([195.200.78.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBtxM-00021s-D2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:41:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 20039 invoked by uid 507); 21 Nov 2009 18:40:50 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO JR) (john.rabson@numeo.fr@217.67.155.178) by smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 2009 18:40:50 +0100 Message-ID: <200911211840580519.1B5773FC@smtp2.numeo.fr> In-Reply-To: <255520.67675.qm@web28105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <255520.67675.qm@web28105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:40:58 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Building a Softrock Lite RX with the M0BMU mods for 136 kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Pete, Mal, Many thanks to both of you for the offers. Pete: I look forward to hearing from you direct. Good luck with the Mitsu= bishi. Mal: that is a good offer, but I already have a kit. The problem is I can= 't see well enough even with artifical aids to do the soldering. 73, John F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (rly-dd05.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.152]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDD044-b774b10081e179; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 12:11:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD051-b774b10081e179; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 12:10:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NE4KL-0006If-Tc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:09:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NE4KL-0006IW-IY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:09:49 +0000 Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NE4KK-0001k2-S9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:09:49 +0000 Received: from aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091127170942.SLBQ27507.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:09:42 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.33] (really [82.22.242.219]) by aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20091127170942.VZNE22934.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.2.33]> for ; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:09:42 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:09:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4B1007CD.13398.2751AC@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=1ggfb5FlKZQUfF3vzm9UBYZ2uTfLsbs/8dSljwg5+mE= c=1 sm=0 a=9YlaCzn6_68A:10 a=3CJfESfmB92Y5CRQsi4A:9 a=SBPDfHXc5BZPM1scxmYA:7 a=FYsEwwi_tvA7HWbCVY2-D2ze7BYA:4 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Test 136.318 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 I am testing this evening by sending 'X' at QRSS120 on 136.3180kHz. If all goes well I will transmit until about 2230UTC. This is a preliminary soak test prior to some overnight transmissions later in the week. Thanks to F5VLF for the report on my QRSS60 transmission earlier. Mike, G3XDV ========== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc06.mx.aol.com (rly-mc06.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.90]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC022-d7f4af45a3f11; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:18:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC067-d7f4af45a3f11; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:17:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6SMQ-0005ce-BB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:12:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6SMP-0005cV-So for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:12:29 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6SLE-0007hn-4n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:11:20 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 06 Nov 2009 17:12:07 -0000 Received: from p5DD343BB.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO Clemens04) [93.211.67.187] by mail.gmx.net (mp059) with SMTP; 06 Nov 2009 18:12:07 +0100 X-Authenticated: #17214767 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/b965sMqfb/8qgbJAjIQXM88POBPFuH87SI2L9ci H+DbJobFlloIB4 Message-ID: <00e201ca5f04$44df8e50$0201a8c0@Clemens04> From: "Clemens Paul" To: References: <9afca2640911060845r17eb75daracad4f874c3a1c9c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 18:12:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.54,0.54 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: G3XBM: 500kHz ERP increased by 6dB - WSPR reports please Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00DE_01CA5F0C.A46B6B70" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00DE_01CA5F0C.A46B6B70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger, are you using the same dial frquency of 0.503910 +/-20Hz as before ? When does your transmission start? 73 Clemens DL4RAJ ----- Original Message ----- From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 5:45 PM Subject: LF: G3XBM: 500kHz ERP increased by 6dB - WSPR reports please Today I modified my 500kHz antenna. The 28MHz halo up at the top of the 5-6m vertical section (which was the coax feed to the 28MHz halo) was removed and replaced by a spiral inductance/ top capacity hat consisting of around around 8 "spiralling in" turns in the space occupied by the original halo. Seeing my initial reports from M0BMU I am some 5-6dB stronger than I was before, I guess because more of the antenna current is in the vertical section. The measured antenna current is not much different though. Please listen for me on 500kHz WSPR and let me know if I am now stronger than before. 73s Roger G3XBM -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.52/2484 - Release Date: 11/06/09 07:38:00 ------=_NextPart_000_00DE_01CA5F0C.A46B6B70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Roger,
 
ar= e you using the=20 same dial frquency of 0.503910= +/-20Hz as=20 before ?
When does your transmission start?
 
73
Clemens
DL4RAJ
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 06, 20= 09 5:45=20 PM
Subject: LF: G3XBM: 500kHz ER= P increased=20 by 6dB - WSPR reports please

Today I modified my 500kHz antenna. The 28MHz halo up= at the=20 top of the 5-6m vertical section (which was the coax feed to the 28M= Hz halo)=20 was removed and replaced by a spiral inductance/ top capacity hat co= nsisting=20 of around around 8 "spiralling in" turns in the space occupied by th= e original=20 halo.  Seeing my initial reports from M0BMU I am some 5-6dB= =20 stronger than I was before, I guess because more of the antenna= current is=20 in the vertical section. The measured antenna current is not much di= fferent=20 though.

Please listen for me on 500kHz WSPR and= let me=20 know if I am now stronger than before.

73s
Roger G3XBM
--=20
-------------------------------------------------------------http://g3xbm-qrp.blogs= pot.com/
http://www.g3xb= m.co.uk
G3XBM  =20  GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088


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------=_NextPart_000_00DE_01CA5F0C.A46B6B70-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df09.mx.aol.com (rly-df09.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.22]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF031-57b4b08005037c; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:59:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF098-57b4b08005037c; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:59:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBrPc-00068H-MP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:58:08 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBrPc-000688-3c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:58:08 +0000 Received: from out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.242]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBrPa-0001GO-6A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:58:08 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAE+OB0tZ8EAi/2dsb2JhbADTVYQ8BIMZ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,264,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="254732038" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([89.240.64.34]) by out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 21 Nov 2009 14:57:59 +0000 Message-ID: <005201ca6abb$0370e780$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <4B07ABA4.4060102@online.fr> <004601ca6ab3$a160b400$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <004501ca6ab4$9a81dd20$0517aac0@desktop> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:57:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Example Go to bed and leave the machines, wake up in the morning and count how many QSO'S they made, Who has the highest score to date ? Even better leave them for a week or so !! and go for the big numbers and with a confused data base you might get a PIRATE g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" To: Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 2:35 PM Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO and define unattended ... Andy www.g4jnt.com This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health and safety police 2009/11/21 James Cowburn : > How do you know they are unattended? > > > Jim > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton > Sent: 21 November 2009 14:05 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO > > Two unattended machines had a QSO!! Is that what you mean. > g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andy Talbot" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 1:52 PM > Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO > > > CanI suggest you read thoroughly the documentation on how the mode > works before making claims about the database.and validity. The > database can only be updated by stations decoding and reportoing, and > if each QSO partner has a reciprocal report in the database for > near-adjacent time intervals , then they MUST have been in contact > with eachother and cannot be classed as anything bu a valid QSO. Its > impossible to have achieved this in any other way. > > Please read all the documentation first. > > Andy > www.g4jnt.com > > This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health > and safety police > > > > 2009/11/21 Wolf Ostwald : >> Hello group ! >> >> >> >> I am not an expert with WSPR at all. But I followed the discussion > regarding >> false detection of calls thru the database. >> >> To my understanding the WSPR operator has NO way to really find out > whether >> the computer came to the right conclusion about the calls received, or >> whether it just judged by means of plausibility. We humans have no sense > for >> phaseshift, that means we have to believe the machine. >> >> I think that the database in the background is like a walking stick for > the >> blind. >> >> Of course it's a new and exciting technology, but I doubt that it is on > one >> and the same level with a regular exchange and therefore should not be >> considered equally verifying a valid contact. >> >> My two pence worth de wolf df2py >> >> > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db01.mx.aol.com (rly-db01.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.76]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB091-aa44af48dbc20c; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:57:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB012-aa44af48dbc20c; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:57:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6VrS-0006WB-6T for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:56:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6VrR-0006W2-PE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:56:45 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f211.google.com ([209.85.220.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6VqK-0000Qm-6U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:55:37 +0000 Received: by fxm3 with SMTP id 3so382955fxm.4 for ; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:56:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1rzLKhu0/2/kqwq3LljmTAvLz52k7Oqod7fTijn9uLk=; b=OvaM0lPCC3Hpp/YLycUGDWMeLl+LtcbX9jRH5FbR50OjSkFPcXyhVTYBsKhm1hMap9 HyofzT7vq/7t1nPxfRs9ijar/q9XfyKwjUaJD/cYDv1Ic8egqV4JNPyz+n1Jfh8B0oBO oMrxsI1hXj1PoSBBOtxFpWiqY3IA9vL28UIFU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=NfZ4mvLJEmWdZKAD9GANpNRW8hKmcC4nUDdwYI8MG+38Oe/5LQ58CCcGqKTZBDO2CM BoXSdOup8G31TcO00kx9bv/upivoNEA/7+qK4eWuxxjAMvs+Ef6+Lp+6KQNXY88QxeRt AqjRR6zE+E5i9M0kQMagVsbzRFzs28B03nelo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.160.144 with SMTP id n16mr4933023bkx.152.1257540997690; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:56:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4AF487B6.4090504@sighthound.demon.co.uk> References: <9afca2640911060845r17eb75daracad4f874c3a1c9c@mail.gmail.com> <4AF487B6.4090504@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 21:56:37 +0100 Message-ID: <9afca2640911061256r19dd6e30g5b4534a8b1c63a8f@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: G3XBM: 500kHz ERP increased by 6dB - WSPR reports please Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175d02ca7534690477ba1466 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d229.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0015175d02ca7534690477ba1466 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yes, I have this data via the WSPR database (selecting G3XBM/GM4SLV/forever/250spots). Definitely better than ever before. Will leave it overnight to seewho else finds me. Thanks again John 73s Roger G3XBM 2009/11/6 John P-G > > > Roger Lapthorn wrote: > >> *Please listen for me on 500kHz WSPR* and let me know if I am now stronger >> than before. >> > > Roger, > > 1st period decoded at -21dB > > Have you a record (mental or otherwise) of the normal spread of s/n figures > that I've recorded for you in the past? I'll leave the RX system running > overnight so you can gather some data to compare your new antenna with the > previous incarnation. > > Cheers, > > John > GM4SLV > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --0015175d02ca7534690477ba1466 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, I have this data via the WSPR database (selecting G3XBM/GM4SLV/foreve= r/250spots). Definitely better than ever before. Will leave it overnight= to seewho else finds me.

Thanks again John

73s
Roger G3X= BM

2009/11/6 John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.= uk>


Roger Lapthorn wrote:
*Please listen for me on 500kHz WSPR* and let me know if I am now stronger=
than before.

Roger,

1st period decoded at -21dB

Have you a record (mental or otherwise) of the normal spread of s/n figure= s that I've recorded for you in the past? I'll leave the RX system= running overnight so you can gather some data to compare your new antenna= with the previous incarnation.

Cheers,

John
GM4SLV




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--0015175d02ca7534690477ba1466-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb08.mx.aol.com (rly-mb08.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.166]) by air-mb05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB051-d244aff460331d; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:06:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB088-d244aff460331d; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:06:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9Scg-0002YL-HB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:05:42 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9Scg-0002YC-35 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:05:42 +0000 Received: from mcgi63.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.193]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9Scd-00074N-W4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:05:42 +0000 Received: from mcgi63.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi63.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE8F11516 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:05:34 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [81.195.15.221] by mcgi63.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:05:34 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:05:34 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <287859382.1258239176.158750212.87677@mcgi38.rambler.ru> <4AFF3A89.50604@ukonline.co.uk> Message-Id: <47576734.1258243534.51726072.14020@mcgi63.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Grabber is ON Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 PS: CW on the 501.055 are visible here too.Is not audible, but looking good on the screens. Who is it? EI0CF may be? * Peter Dodd [Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:17:29 +0000]: > Hi Roman. > > 501.05kHz > > Peter, G3LDO > > > > My grabber started on up to finished your activity. > > qrss.nm.ru -> grabber. > > Looking to 501.2-501.36 and 502.0 > > Whats a real freq, Peter? > > > > -- > > Roman RW3ADB. > > > > > > > > -- Roman RW3ADB. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA021-8d04b01bfbc2eb; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:10:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA102-8d04b01bfbc2eb; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:10:22 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA8pA-0000MY-EK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:09:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA8p9-0000MP-Tr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:09:23 +0000 Received: from mail-pz0-f177.google.com ([209.85.222.177]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA8p8-0002xu-QN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:09:23 +0000 Received: by pzk7 with SMTP id 7so6730424pzk.30 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:09:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=icpEGyRmF8x2I+7xbdFo91rw4SAERe207IbFQ/JpXD0=; b=gbB6u8S6nH3e+3LDDlZKxIWvWeShTJGdtVwSLijueg5PB/c/3Qdbp9wopeq9QtBE/o i8+TlDcG/zub+hyco4IjY/KJ8nHniCm5L7SXezjYsTV7j73aFxivtj/oLYDmAaeqA+WM Sylu+8u7L28hYx7dVdwESs0o1pA+L+ZY1NFHs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=FOt6UjozuhwWuPExJrAffITVba8EIjbaiZ/P/NlpOs1o8lQSL17mnjgGn/508xLEQl yyvRo2visLLirWe5VFLigIzBGLyIZATvlprZHYblAxZouTy1p+eh6FX+VDU6Bsm5JSh9 /qP3jLd9IsoH7FhzmaTcJXDbHAwan/ShOfrsQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.177.21 with SMTP id z21mr477238rve.52.1258405754474; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:09:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091116214056.d7nc9v7srowggc88@webmail6.kuleuven.be> References: <20091116214056.d7nc9v7srowggc88@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:09:14 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1e8bacd0dccaf24f Message-ID: <1f0624b90911161309l24ff22b9r2c7725274023d953@mail.gmail.com> From: Gary - G4WGT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: WSPR Entry Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd212dafa90440478836b1c X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d282.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0cd212dafa90440478836b1c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Rik, Andy, LF, So it appears it is not just me :-)) I have had a few false decodes & usually the time slot has a pulse of local noise. Tonight seen on my saved grabber images the 1906 slot I believe was Andy's WSPR signal split into two parts with QSB & a strong noise pulse. 73, Gary - G4WGT. 2009/11/16 Rik Strobbe > Andy, > > note that the 2 hits have the same timestamp but different frequency. > You can more of these double "fake" hits: > > 2009-01-30 20:00 Y23LWM 0.137592 -26 0 AC23 10 DF6NM JN59nk > 18083 194 > 2009-01-30 20:00 Y23LWM 0.137568 +8 0 AC23 10 DF6NM JN59nk > 18083 194 > > 2009-10-22 05:18 CE8QNK 0.503890 -21 -3 OB23 0.005 SQ2BXI > JO94gj 15730 291 > 2009-10-22 05:18 CE8QNK 0.503969 -25 -3 OB23 0.005 SQ2BXI > JO94gj 15730 291 > > 2009-11-08 04:50 G17LSZ 0.503817 -27 -2 GA37 0.01 SQ2BXI > JO94gj 15730 62 > 2009-11-08 04:50 G17LSZ 0.503829 -26 -2 GA37 0.01 SQ2BXI > JO94gj 15730 62 > > 2009-11-12 21:12 E51OOP 0.503999 -33 3 GB06 0.1 G4WGT > IO83qo 14761 42 > 2009-11-12 21:12 E51OOP 0.503810 -25 3 GB06 0.1 G4WGT > IO83qo 14761 42 > > 2009-05-17 21:28 EN6WV 0.503858 -17 -4 MD07 200 GM4ISM > IO85ar 13421 324 > 2009-05-17 21:28 EN6WV 0.503850 -24 -4 MD07 200 GM4ISM > IO85ar 13421 324 > > 2009-09-08 19:42 NE9GWP 0.503876 -24 1 OG12 0.5 G0HNW > IO93cn 13386 318 > 2009-09-08 19:42 NE9GWP 0.503851 -23 1 OG12 0.5 G0HNW > IO93cn 13386 318 > > 2009-09-19 10:16 1Y3X 0.503556 -33 1 AD87 2 K1JT FN20 > 13336 61 > 2009-09-19 10:16 1Y3X 0.503468 -32 1 AD87 2 K1JT FN20 > 13336 61 > > and so on ... > > 73, Rik > > > Quoting Andy Talbot : > > Found in the database. Two consecutive hits with the same details >> suggests an incorrectly set station.. >> >> Uraguay, in Central Africa !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> >> 2009-11-16 19:06 CW5PPT 0.503997 -30 3 KJ31 +53 199.526 G4WGT >> IO83qo 6399 3976 >> 2009-11-16 19:06 CW5PPT 0.503849 -15 3 KJ31 +53 199.526 G4WGT >> IO83qo 6399 3976 >> >> >> Andy >> www.g4jnt.com >> >> this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny state >> >> >> > > > --000e0cd212dafa90440478836b1c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rik, Andy, LF,

So it appears it is not just me :-))

I have had a few false decodes & usually the tim= e slot has a pulse of local noise.

Tonight seen= on my saved grabber images the 1906 slot I believe was Andy's WSPR si= gnal split into two parts with QSB & a strong noise pulse.

73,

Gary - G4WGT.
<= br>
2009/11/16 Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuv= en.be>
Andy,

note that the 2 hits have the same timestamp but different frequency.
You can more of these double "fake" hits:

2009-01-30 20:00 =A0 Y23LWM =A0 0.137592 =A0 -26 =A0 0 =A0 AC23 =A0 10 =A0= DF6NM =A0 JN59nk =A0 18083 =A0 194
2009-01-30 20:00 =A0 Y23LWM =A0 0.137568 =A0 +8 =A0 0 =A0 AC23 =A0 10 =A0= DF6NM =A0 JN59nk =A0 18083 =A0 194

2009-10-22 05:18 =A0 CE8QNK =A0 0.503890 =A0 -21 =A0 -3 =A0 OB23 =A0 0.005= =A0 SQ2BXI =A0 JO94gj =A0 15730 =A0 291
=A02009-10-22 05:18 =A0 CE8QNK =A0 0.503969 =A0 -25 =A0 -3 =A0 OB23 =A0 0.= 005 =A0 SQ2BXI =A0 JO94gj =A0 15730 =A0 291

2009-11-08 04:50 =A0 G17LSZ =A0 0.503817 =A0 -27 =A0 -2 =A0 GA37 =A0 0.01= =A0 SQ2BXI =A0JO94gj =A0 15730 =A0 62
2009-11-08 04:50 =A0 G17LSZ =A0 0.503829 =A0 -26 =A0 -2 =A0 GA37 =A0 0.01= =A0 SQ2BXI =A0JO94gj =A0 15730 =A0 62

2009-11-12 21:12 =A0 E51OOP =A0 0.503999 =A0 -33 =A0 3 =A0 GB06 =A0 0.1 = =A0 G4WGT =A0 IO83qo =A0 14761 =A0 42
2009-11-12 21:12 =A0 E51OOP =A0 0.503810 =A0 -25 =A0 3 =A0 GB06 =A0 0.1 = =A0 G4WGT =A0 IO83qo =A0 14761 =A0 42

2009-05-17 21:28 =A0 EN6WV =A0 0.503858 =A0 -17 =A0 -4 =A0 MD07 =A0 200 = =A0 GM4ISM =A0 IO85ar =A0 13421 =A0 324
2009-05-17 21:28 =A0 EN6WV =A0 0.503850 =A0 -24 =A0 -4 =A0 MD07 =A0 200 = =A0 GM4ISM =A0 IO85ar =A0 13421 =A0 324

2009-09-08 19:42 =A0 NE9GWP =A0 0.503876 =A0 -24 =A0 1 =A0 OG12 =A0 0.5 = =A0 G0HNW =A0 IO93cn =A0 13386 =A0 318
2009-09-08 19:42 =A0 NE9GWP =A0 0.503851 =A0 -23 =A0 1 =A0 OG12 =A0 0.5 = =A0 G0HNW =A0 IO93cn =A0 13386 =A0 318

2009-09-19 10:16 =A0 1Y3X =A0 0.503556 =A0 -33 =A0 1 =A0 AD87 =A0 2 =A0 K1= JT =A0 FN20 =A0=A013336 =A0 61
2009-09-19 10:16 =A0 1Y3X =A0 0.503468 =A0 -32 =A0 1 =A0 AD87 =A0 2 =A0 K1= JT =A0 FN20 =A0=A013336 =A0 61

and so on ...

73, Rik


Quoting Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>:

Found in the database. =A0Two consecutive hits with the same details
suggests an incorrectly set station..

Uraguay, in Central Africa !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2009-11-16 19:06=A0=A0CW5PPT=A0=A00.503997=A0=A0-30=A0=A03=A0=A0KJ31=A0=A0= +53=A0=A0199.526=A0=A0G4WGT
IO83qo=A0=A06399=A0=A03976
2009-11-16 19:06=A0=A0CW5PPT=A0=A00.503849=A0=A0-15=A0=A03=A0=A0KJ31=A0=A0= +53=A0=A0199.526=A0=A0G4WGT
IO83qo=A0=A06399=A0=A03976


Andy
www.g4jnt.com

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--000e0cd212dafa90440478836b1c-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (rly-dd05.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.152]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD012-b7b4b080af02c9; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:45:06 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD055-b7b4b080af02c9; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:44:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBs7w-0006hP-Pw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:43:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBs7w-0006hG-Dt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:43:56 +0000 Received: from out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.244]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBs7v-0000RZ-ST for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:43:56 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAOSYB0tOkTcm/2dsb2JhbADTT4Q8BA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,264,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="244925676" Received: from unknown (HELO laptopcore2) ([78.145.55.38]) by out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net with ESMTP; 21 Nov 2009 15:43:50 +0000 From: "g3zjo" To: Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:43:49 -0000 Message-ID: <001101ca6ac1$6bad91d0$0202a8c0@laptopcore2> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 >Can only dream of working dx like this on cw ... >2009-11-21 13:54 9M3KKR 0.503906 -23 1 OL69 1000 G3ZJO >IO92ng 8894 325 >mind you after watching the movie ...perhaps machine's can dream as >well ? That is the one big thing I have against WSPR, I almost begged Joe not to include any predictive (lets try and make a sensible call - qra - report out of this junk) decoding in the early days of the mode. Rubbish info should stay as rubbish. Who also has not seen the message - PSE QSY 10.140868975MHZ - on WSPR, when you QSY there is never anyone there:-) Eddie G3ZJO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (rly-dg10.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.94]) by air-dg04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG041-5f94af728a520a; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:23:10 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG104-5f94af728a520a; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:23:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7EHB-0000hm-CG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:22:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7EHA-0000hb-TT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:22:16 +0000 Received: from out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.243]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7EGE-0002Kx-9k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:21:18 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqkEAPq29kpcHccI/2dsb2JhbACEOtR6hD4E X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,704,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="211082883" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([92.29.199.8]) by out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 08 Nov 2009 20:22:10 +0000 Message-ID: <02b001ca60b1$28a154e0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <027601ca60a2$841cd150$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:22:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 7:26 PM Subject: LF: Re: WSPR > Dear Mal, LF Group, > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mal hamilton" > > >>WSPR reports amongst stns indicate reception reports usually minus dB. >>Most >>of these stations are usually PLUS dB >with me or very close to that >>figure. >>So what does that prove. > > It proves the SNR is higher at the output of your receiver than it is at > whatever other stations you are talking about > > >>I would say it depends on the RX antenna and not necessarily propagation. > > So how then does the signal reach the RX antenna? Radio wave propagation > has > always to be involved somewhere! > > >>A large antenna yields better results than a small loop or active whip. > > Not if the small loop or whip are designed to achieve adequate SNR at the > frequency of interest. > > >>When I switch from my 1/4 wave inv L for 500 khz to a smaller 40 m >>resonated loop for 500 the signals then do go >down to a minus db figure. >>So what is all this all ABOUT ? > > It is probably about the different directional patterns of the vertical > and > loop antennas, resulting in different signal and noise levels at the > receiver, and therefore different values of SNR. Or maybe your loop just > doesn't work very well. > > >>There is also the TX pwr to consider. Two transmitters from the same >>location one using QRO and the other QRP will be >received at different >>levels at a specified RX location. There is a lot of misrepresentation and >>misleading information by >WSPR operator > > This applies also to CW or any other type of signal. It is a bit rich for > someone so shy of giving figures for his TX power to suggest others are > being misleading... > > >>A trace of the signal is visible long before a decode takes place, >>therefore why not use QRS in the first place. > > Because a trace of signal is just that; a decoded WSPR signal contains > station ID, location, and power information, making it much more useful, > without the operator actually having to watch a computer screen 24 hours a > day. I disagree with your observations above and are you saying there is no ID, LOCATION info when using CW or QRS I agree you do not need an operator, no skills necessary, just leave it to unattended machines. A good CW operator would have station ID, QTH and RST exchanged while others are waiting for WSPR to decode. G3KEV > > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.55/2489 - Release Date: 11/08/09 07:37:00 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me01.mx.aol.com (rly-me01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.34]) by air-me07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME073-9974b07f3d62e8; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:06:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME013-9974b07f3d62e8; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:06:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBqaW-0005fN-8h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:05:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBqaV-0005fE-S2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:05:19 +0000 Received: from out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.237]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBqaV-0008KA-9z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:05:19 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAJeCB0tZ8EAi/2dsb2JhbADTd4Q8BIMZ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,264,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="112371245" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([89.240.64.34]) by out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 21 Nov 2009 14:05:08 +0000 Message-ID: <004601ca6ab3$a160b400$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <4B07ABA4.4060102@online.fr> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:05:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Two unattended machines had a QSO!! Is that what you mean. g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" To: Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 1:52 PM Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO CanI suggest you read thoroughly the documentation on how the mode works before making claims about the database.and validity. The database can only be updated by stations decoding and reportoing, and if each QSO partner has a reciprocal report in the database for near-adjacent time intervals , then they MUST have been in contact with eachother and cannot be classed as anything bu a valid QSO. Its impossible to have achieved this in any other way. Please read all the documentation first. Andy www.g4jnt.com This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health and safety police 2009/11/21 Wolf Ostwald : > Hello group ! > > > > I am not an expert with WSPR at all. But I followed the discussion regarding > false detection of calls thru the database. > > To my understanding the WSPR operator has NO way to really find out whether > the computer came to the right conclusion about the calls received, or > whether it just judged by means of plausibility. We humans have no sense for > phaseshift, that means we have to believe the machine. > > I think that the database in the background is like a walking stick for the > blind. > > Of course it’s a new and exciting technology, but I doubt that it is on one > and the same level with a regular exchange and therefore should not be > considered equally verifying a valid contact. > > My two pence worth de wolf df2py > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (rly-mg03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.109]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG093-a054af5699b32b; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:35:47 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG037-a054af5699b32b; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:35:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6kUv-0000RK-Bd for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:34:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6kUu-0000R6-3P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:34:28 +0000 Received: from mail2.citigroup.com ([192.193.221.104] helo=mail.citigroup.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6kUr-0000qJ-Lh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:34:27 +0000 Received: from imbhub-mw03.nam.nsroot.net ([159.17.94.190]) by imbaspam-ss02.namdmz.dmzroot.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/SSMB_EXT/ev: 24741 $) with ESMTP id nA7CYHK0008772 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 12:34:18 GMT Received: from exlniht01.eur.nsroot.net (exlniht01.eur.nsroot.net [169.186.207.97]) by imbhub-mw03.nam.nsroot.net (Switch-3.4.0/Switch-3.4.0) with ESMTP id nA7CYGsu013796 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 12:34:17 GMT Received: from exlnht01.eur.nsroot.net (169.182.192.16) by exlniht01.eur.nsroot.net (169.186.207.97) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.375.2; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 12:34:16 +0000 Received: from exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net ([169.186.207.105]) by exlnht01.eur.nsroot.net ([169.182.192.16]) with mapi; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 12:34:16 +0000 From: "Scholz, Marco " To: "'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'" Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 12:34:12 +0000 Thread-Topic: tnx QSO OE5ODL - DD7PC, QRSS +/-137.705KHz Thread-Index: AcpfppxsvDx0P7b0TOmbdbEU0Y+/Hg== Message-ID: <254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C74A83BA@exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net> Accept-Language: en-US, en-GB Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US, en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WiganSS: 01000000010018exlniht01.eur.nsroot.net ID0044<254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C74A83BA@exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 169.175.16.181 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: tnx QSO OE5ODL - DD7PC, QRSS +/-137.705KHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Ossy, many thanks again for fb random QSO an hour ago. Very relaxed QSO with your OOO signal. Conditions not perfect due some light rain this morning. vy73 Marco DD7PC, JN49ax From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (rly-dc01.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.30]) by air-dc06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC063-afe4b034a6d101; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:14:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC012-afe4b034a6d101; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:14:22 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAZ6r-0007pi-RN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:13:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAZ6r-0007pZ-DF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:13:25 +0000 Received: from smtp823.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.233]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAZ6q-0003pX-OK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:13:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 18266 invoked from network); 18 Nov 2009 01:13:18 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=FBmYl5/w5b27CbRxhGw9Euh4Ut8eX6BddJJNGzZrBpgGn6+6vvhjD7CHAZTMrNjCuXb+g/uSF6EJ6VHVkMSlxpdBVf10eYbyLGP7eMZy5dQXch+Yd6xKJIc3jZ2hSTJAznNCR89moqKZnukSLFuQ8fuy4Duh4OsPFLjdZnLoeis= ; Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.177.107.201 with login) by smtp823.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Nov 2009 01:13:18 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: qKIhhNCswBB2TTHr2BORWcGGR2mpopxhCcunGIxpCKQYiG07Q7UOhNo- X-YMail-OSG: MyibOZMVM1kMaFuCwYng6tQRFBDmHNgDVVg.4GnGUaSm_6hFURMLFvjMLNworPQwFk1dzOhTfCZvj.SIRbqFjOBXlwqh6ncyJJzr8hiRGhb9bBQs5lOaDRbDwnejjkrb8vnbbs2e.lgbVmQz6TmoF.3VQwmbcBg4dFWBXvfvVAmiK9MhZGhILxeAiHGUsenEJDdhclKUC9RBpHoLhqjU5kB.uCNTuYP8entg1SLiej1rfJ0.3X4aNKmE_aAl0Ao15gzBt4XcuNUESYgBMHs6w9g2zWkBqS1kpF.VgQVZm34RStX.ilIp_4DdyPANMWisl_.bhg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "James Moritz" To: References: <017801ca66fb$0bf91c60$0517aac0@jimdesk> In-Reply-To: <017801ca66fb$0bf91c60$0517aac0@jimdesk> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:13:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: G7NKS sidebands Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Jim LF Group, Looking at the sidebands on the G7NKS WSPR signals, mains hum or other noise by itself is not a sufficient explanation of what is seen. Simply adding 50Hz, 150Hz, etc. noise into the PC audio channel, then feeding the result into an SSB TX would give unwanted CW at frequencies offset from the SSB carrier frequency by +/-50Hz, 150Hz and so on, i.e. with the carrier "dial frequency" at 502.4kHz, unmodulated carriers would appear at 502.45kHz, 502.55kHz and so on, in addition to the WSPR signal at around 503.9kHz. However, these would probably largely be removed by the SSB filter in the rig. Instead, we see unwanted sidebands offset from the wanted WSPR signal frequency by +/- 50Hz, 150Hz, with identical modulation to the wanted signal. This requires some sort of non-linear process to cause the intermodulation between the presumed mains noise and the WSPR signal somewhere in the TX chain. One possibility is that intermodulation occurs in the PA. Jim's description suggests that he is persuading the HF PA in the IC735 to produce output at 500k. At this frequency, the PA linearity may well be poor due to the impedance matching, coupling, decoupling and feedback components in the PA being wrong for the frequency, and high flux densities occuring in ferrite components due to the low operating frequency. But this wouldn't explain why Jim also gets multiple received signals from a strong station with a clean signal, which implies some identical noise source and distortion in the receive path. It would also mean the mains noise getting through the filtering in the rig somehow. A possibility that would explain the unwanted sidebands appearing on both TX and RX signals is if one of the oscillators in the system has mains noise sidebands. The sound card clock seems unlikely, since this is just a simple crystal oscillator. I see the IC735 has some sort of multi-loop PLL synthesiser, which would certainly be prone to this type of spurious signal, since any kind of mains noise getting in would modulate the VCO frequencies, and would probably be the same on transmit and receive. This could be checked by receiving a clean carrier somewhere around 500kHz, and examining the audio output using Spec Lab or Argo or similar to see if 50Hz and 150Hz sidebands are present on the received audio tone. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Cowburn" To: Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:26 PM Subject: LF: rule #2 - assumption is the brother of all foul ups > LF > > > > Sidebands are back! I think its caused by my TX getting hot and bothered > by > struggling at 500. From cold it txs 50 watts but this soon drops back to > around 35, and the sidebands appear. My sigs are better so having the > txfr > outside the shack and at the antenna is a vast improvement, but I now need > to work on the cooling. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDB063-ada4b0c7a152bf; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:28:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB078-ada4b0c7a152bf; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:28:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ND5iJ-0008Ro-MQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:26:31 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ND5iJ-0008Rf-2z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:26:31 +0000 Received: from smtp826.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.189.240]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ND5iG-0006Ma-Dr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:26:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 79395 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2009 00:26:22 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=daT0Y1H2HzCS4ZTw1OAVXS1OTRdQUiN+Nnh2psJFguq0J2NeZq9p86F0kHLgETH06miPK6Xi8/dy4HdpvOWpfjwhtHmtXemAEKt/aA/K9KDXR7Bk99W2NCDr1X7F7Rt2x9TbWAt28v3Udo1ZkIgrij53fEmLJjUkQ3IwGeT05hQ= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@213.122.25.184 with login) by smtp826.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 2009 00:26:21 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: KHdpK2OswBBXlm4uxknbEiS4uYdJoGknHN90u4K8__lTafnafZg- X-YMail-OSG: KTSBqXkVM1mWEznLMy12Ae6_PS_rPFbE39p18yiE1ZK0QTRIz_T0d8K2LOitjWYkVOVhz3joXmurcR8UpnGwt4DbOSN0aYaCpZ9zck4kfSK0xnhtepQP0Z9Yi2OytTDFi47c8Ac54FwGzincH5CrKg9GDXN9t9iTiUU.vvcO_t4hcCpsJ0dCWvPjFqkIzthEBnYcV.HrYBWG8ie9indXBesHeqRCvKSJ1avQhxVWaJ852_GaFNOzC96Vz6yY9fQMiCF7CRHqpandjN7kDiTZzyyle7yFGg.So.JLoEVsnJkzKOvCpj6Wx7NveTcEYC5boq5zq.Dzf.peF8qCokw7m_p9lDw- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <003d01ca6d65$fd72e3d0$0900a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <9afca2640911241140j230515e9kcbcaffd3911ccb82@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:15:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: IRF510 500kHz PA stability issues - advice please Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Andy it is our experience that a properly tuned single ended Class-E PA is fairly docile and its power drops if presented with a mis-matched load. What you MUST NOT DO is tune the PA to the aerial. The PA should be tuned into its design resistive load and then the aerial adjusted to provide the right (same) load. Too low or too high and you will probably not get current draw from the FET. There is a great temptation to retune the PA at this point, but this certainly can be fatal, and is not the right thing to do. I have no doubt there are some conditions where the phase of the reflected impedance from the antenna could give excessive voltages on the FET but Mike GW4HXO, Finbar and a few other who have used the design equations, and this procedure, havent lost a FET though aerial mis-match (as far as I know!). In fact Mike transmitted into an open when his aerial broke one night. I advise a simple RF bridge to check that your aerial is what you think it is....tuning, and tap changing, on aerial current alone is like driving blind. Once you have the resonance and match right, then all you should need are slight alterations to take up different weather conditions. I seem to remember you can some strange parasitic resonances on your tuning system on 136 at one time which were a bit troublesome?. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:00 PM Subject: Re: LF: IRF510 500kHz PA stability issues - advice please If you've studied the drain waveform when operating inrto a correct load, and assuming its all within design guidelines, then the trouble is because of nasty impedances presented by the antenna during the tuning process. What sort of antenna matching are you using? The often suggested idea of an an adjustable tap onto the loading coil can lead to damage as, when the antenna is detuned, the small number of turns of the link, with an untuned coil, appear not far different from a short circuit. A Class E PA, when presented with a slightly inductive short circuit can get a bit stressed. On my antenna over the years on 73, 137 now 500kHz the system has always been fed in series, using a ferrite tapped transformer to match load impedance. I kept well away from tapped or link windings as they are not easy to calculate or predict reliably. WIth a series fed system, a detuned antenna results in a high impedance. This may not always good news either to some class-E designs, but all my LF/MF PAs are completely open-circuit-proof voltage fed designs. The only true class-E one here was for 1.8MHz, and can be seen at http://www.g4jnt.com/TopbandPA.pdf . This was completely imune to open and short circuits and seemed very robust; but I did use the meatier and more robust higher voltage IRF540. Doesn't the IRF510 only have a 100V rating? Andy www.g4jnt.com This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health and safety police 2009/11/24 Roger Lapthorn : > I've been using a single IRF510 FET PA stage on 500kHz and it produces > around 6-7W of RF. But, when adjusting my antenna I've managed to damage > several devices now. I think the stage is running somewhere towards class-E > looking at the PA drain waveform on the scope and I believe either the stage > is going unstable or it is running in a condition in which too much current > (and heat) is taken and the device fails.500kHz teh ant > > Are there any simple "rules of thumb" or design/biasing/decoupling > guidelines to ensure that my devices don't destroy themselves with a less > than perfect load? > > Any simple advice would be appreciated. > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > > > > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD031-9124b097241ac; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:18:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD072-9124b097241ac; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:18:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCG0b-0003tq-NU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:13:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCG0b-0003th-B5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:13:57 +0000 Received: from mail-ew0-f223.google.com ([209.85.219.223]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCG0Y-00052O-2Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:13:57 +0000 Received: by ewy23 with SMTP id 23so610597ewy.4 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:13:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=JDwOvr6tYnVMuJlg3Zu4RUkhEznd84k6NXGAhLuDZ3Y=; b=A8prBj1WXTy2RUw9Epf0vBCl4Z7vMzPZWORkYid/9T4KNdutQMzaAPsB/Dikk+8d1C fJ69fj5C3fLqjc3Is53wSrU6+FTMFrckcIB57XzFdBofmB/6lnNLEciwxG7sBVd0b4id VxsDda6QDefUvHy5NtZItBg967RLmB9+kBFWM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=I+z1q4EjLJmd1BpPzVqODedLbK74wtsYlDiew3YFOKdijuS3/1YRzeB4/rrVX5CA91 Yb93tS1TsDGc4C1urUwxAnIipHw0WGWcChhNihwX8ozcJM0PcdhyFH+Mlzndo1cAAF4D CY7P4eVJ3X7kzkGsw77jQCL3Dk/0alNW6wVbM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.24.15 with SMTP id t15mr3760786ebb.42.1258910004785; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:13:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:13:24 +0100 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Anton_B=E4rtschi?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: G3KEV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cdfc626a3b23c0478f8d316 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m237.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0cdfc626a3b23c0478f8d316 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 You are "O" here, dear Mal, ufb. Sorry we couldn't make it. Probably my antenna is to small. It seems to me, that my limit is around 800-900km on Longwave. Power is 1kW and I can't get much higher. But one day, we may get the permission for 500kHz and there it should be much easier, even in normal CW. 73 de Toni, HB9ASB --000e0cdfc626a3b23c0478f8d316 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You are "O" here, dear Mal, ufb. Sorry we couldn't make it.= Probably my antenna is to small. It seems to me, that my limit is around= 800-900km on Longwave. Power is 1kW and I can't get much higher. But= one day, we may get the permission for 500kHz and there it should be much= easier, even in normal CW.
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--000e0cdfc626a3b23c0478f8d316-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB102-ad44afc9486384; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:05:00 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB072-ad44afc9486384; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:04:39 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8ihZ-0008W3-LR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:03:41 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8ihZ-0008Vu-3x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:03:41 +0000 Received: from smtp827.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.13.162]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8ihW-00009b-HY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:03:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 19140 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2009 23:03:33 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=Jo5oQRnGVU6cHhNTpOvnUENN9y8ukzLtPQeNFB+6VzZrEUGwIl+D1QbBYfjYP34dy1Eg7Zm4lWKGEza50g2MF99T0BB4mFQb1ZnVE/QW0txZtLPQmghypaDFq85wg8gAE/daTX53xYQuLZMg1BNt0SsYZ2DwGEvz+J+SFwvvKs4= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@213.122.7.123 with login) by smtp827.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Nov 2009 23:03:32 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: KHdpK2OswBBXlm4uxknbEiS4uYdJoGknHN90u4K8__lTafnafZg- X-YMail-OSG: EedsYdcVM1m2eB3bpaxMun8bSwxj0lBd1i6K21QZQquNrGUQzeVYDv.rejZNgLh.VPllWP_VD16G3MaYh3wUqokjr_n2bHlpRjFUPNYoe1BbolqjzUN3Se4vaLqH5peRBdM61ufCI5_3jEK1NCcnaWgCVkrTE5_tHEs_iIHsUg3Eaf4x2oG7WNxByOI0t9DyBNlpl9szmFm6IXUownlXBgZuZa5JEGXEbieHsSj3kPbyPL79jDvJ3WU4eJBjlg15lLxAt4GTxVJdrgJhZZVRHO.HrUiaT7wijOiIhx_ZRJ4HakRMSIYiwM4rOaFKao.IJGy.HaJ.Xl.Rkn6gT5TRAC1Y4A-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <001801ca63ec$609a7f50$0900a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <563642.98089.qm@web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:02:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Graham its like our Offcomm....read it that it doesnt say they can't! Dont ask or the answer is always NO, the safest response for a Civil Serpent :-)) Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham" To: Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 10:33 PM Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Peter, I'm reading that .. but what am I reading ..is it yes or no ? G.. From: M0FMT Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:55 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Just more boring old Beacon stations claging up MF.....look on RAC web site... http://www.rac.ca/ ........ 2008-11-10 Canadian Amateurs on 600 Metres Industry Canada has accepted an RAC proposal whereby selected Canadian radio amateurs would be permitted to operate in the vicinity of 500 kHz. These amateur operations would support Canada's efforts to action a proposal on the agenda of the 2011 World Radio Conference (WRC2011) which, if adopted, would create an amateur allocation in the 600-meter band. Industry Canada have authorized RAC to recommend amateurs who would be licensed to operate in the 504 to 509 kHz band with a maximum power of 20 watts ERP and bandwidth up to 1 kHz. Stations operating in this band would be technically operating under Special Developmental Licenses although they would all be radio amateurs. Distinct call signs would be used and the licenses would be renewable annually subject to the amateur demonstrating the research he has carried out. More information will follow shortly in the pages of TCA or via subsequent bulletins. Bryan Rawlings VE3QN/VE2QNN Radio Amateurs of/du Canada, Inc. 73 petefmt --- On Thu, 12/11/09, Graham wrote: From: Graham Subject: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 21:43 Can anyone clarify the situation as to who can work who is this the same as the USA ? Tnx - G .. From the IARU web site As of 30 October 2009 Canada issued two licences in the Developmental Service in the range 504-509 kHz. a.. VE1ZZ has been assigned VX9PSO and is reported on 504.6 kHz b.. VO1NA has been assigned VX9MRC and is reported on 507.77 and 508.5 kHz Two more stations, VE3OHH and VE7BDQ, are expected to become active soon. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb04.mx.aol.com (rly-mb04.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.162]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB024-d044aed76582b8; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 06:52:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB048-d044aed76582b8; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 06:51:53 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N4YxU-0003zm-Tb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 11:50:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N4YxU-0003zd-Gw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 11:50:56 +0000 Received: from mx01.infotech.at ([213.174.240.1]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N4YxG-0006he-2f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 11:50:44 +0000 Received: from [213.174.228.193] by mx01.infotech.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N4YxE-0001qA-K8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:50:41 +0100 Message-ID: <4AED7637.1040008@inext.at> Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:51:19 +0100 From: Oberreiter Oswald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: test cpm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) hallo henny LF test cpm good signal on 136.550 15 dB o.Nois 73 de ossi oe5odl jn68rd From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df11.mx.aol.com (rly-df11.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.24]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF013-58c4af881b5222; 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------=_NextPart_000_0045_01CA617E.A5DBF5F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da01.mx.aol.com (rly-da01.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.75]) by air-da02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA021-a494affe24237a; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:13:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA011-a494affe24237a; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:13:07 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9d1g-0005ql-6r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:12:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9d1f-0005qc-RE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:12:11 +0000 Received: from smtp22.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.11]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9d1f-0000S6-80 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:12:11 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2222.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 98762700008F for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:12:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (13.233.197-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.197.233.13]) by msfrf2222.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 52514700008E for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:12:03 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091115111203337.52514700008E@msfrf2222.sfr.fr Message-ID: <001601ca65e4$76cd10e0$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:12:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091114-1, 14/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.8 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUB_HELLO=1.76 Subject: LF: hello LUBOS Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01CA65EC.D82856D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, SUB_HELLO,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01CA65EC.D82856D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HI LUBOS LF Group Many thanks for qso lubos ur MM in JN16WA good sunday for ALL Claude F8boj ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01CA65EC.D82856D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0013_01CA65EC.D82856D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db05.mx.aol.com (rly-db05.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.80]) by air-db02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB021-ac64af1f69036; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:48:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB054-ac64af1f69036; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:48:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N5nh5-0007gF-OG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:47:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N5nh5-0007g6-Bx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:47:07 +0000 Received: from mail-ew0-f219.google.com ([209.85.219.219]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N5nfn-0005sF-Q4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:45:48 +0000 Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so5335162ewy.4 for ; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:47:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=n/wA6LnaNCSvEGFQXg7PEY/15Pjl+Pn7wlFG+H3u8UI=; b=wN3WdiNmRoB9x153gqabBOKroynpYNqy0zqqoEi95TPIhsNH6tghKNRsbd9EXuIZ6/ M1OGtk4a05bXv3PEbAPwpiVfgVc8Rw2ACe8foJMHLstvKPVky9x1rGt3nKcxIuNGzl9v ItDEjiZQ8VgOQy92aOY2MvOnslBycqAg9UIrw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=j/iUtMIyZjZSKuFBfgArK8bqoyu11mXV34/0l5lxxg1GFAw6CPz7BHbAFp2Jx5vcON FM9Mu7gcxzGcj1yHU0U5C9FkWdo20yyJ8aAmL8RweTZryjWo4ZmYpIXGscIQsyYkQvhu RjHfNXq8P6pH54o0a8DVJ8q1gU1Sws8gjNYeo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.91.13 with SMTP id g13mr665076wef.36.1257371220204; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:47:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C6EE3533@exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net> References: <254102CCC310104CA9DA9DA31EBD03CE02C6EE3533@exlnmb06.eur.nsroot.net> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:47:00 +0000 Message-ID: <8bf118410911041347w4d43131eode41c73cda2bde0c@mail.gmail.com> From: Dave Pick To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Who on +/-137.710KHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d975e1ee5d920477928cac X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m268.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0016e6d975e1ee5d920477928cac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Probably OE5ODL, maybe a dot got lost, changing the 5 to an "H"? Dave G3YXM 2009/11/4 Scholz, Marco > Hello, > I have in this moment (21:22UTC) a very good signal on 137. 710KHz. I > copied OEH and ODL! Who was it? > > An hour ago DI2BJ on 505.030 in CW with a booming signal. Looks like beacon > is off air now. > > vy73 > Marco > DD7PC, JN49ax > -- G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK --0016e6d975e1ee5d920477928cac Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Probably OE5ODL, maybe a dot got lost, changing the 5 to an "H"?

Dave G3YXM

2009/11/4 Scholz, Marco <marco.scholz@citi.com>
Hello,
I have in this moment (21:22UTC) a very good signal on 137. 710KHz. I copied OEH and ODL! Who was it?

An hour ago DI2BJ on 505.030 in CW with a booming signal. Looks like beacon is off air now.

vy73
Marco
DD7PC, JN49ax



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G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK
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(VPS 091114-1, 14/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 137kHz grabber in SP Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Jacek LF Congratulations on opening your grabber still possibility thank you for europe the pleasure of seeing my transmission to you Claude F8boj JN16WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roman RW3ADB" To: Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 3:50 AM Subject: Re: LF: 137kHz grabber in SP > > Hi Jacek, LF! > Congratulation with the grabber started! > Put your QTH locator to the page next time. > And put "offset" to Spectrum lab pse for the screening a real freq rule. > > * Jacek Lipkowski [Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:38:59 > +0100 (CET)]: > > I've set up a temporary 137kHz grabber. QTH is Warsaw, Poland KO02md. > RX > > is an ex-DDR EKV03 with a mini-whip active antenna. Currently it is > set > > for QRSS3. It is in a nice mid-point between active grabbers in DL and > > RU. > > > > The url is http://acid.ch.pw.edu.pl/~sq5bpf/grabber/ > > > > This area has high qrm, so if you see yourself on the grabber - > > congratulations :) > > > > I will leave it on all night in case anyone is interested, later it > will > > be avaliable upon request. > > > > VY 73 > > > > Jacek / SQ5BPF > > > > > > > > 73! > -- > Roman RW3ADB. > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc11.mx.aol.com (rly-mc11.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.95]) by air-mc07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC071-da54afe2c309a; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:04:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC115-da54afe2c309a; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:04:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N99qK-00074N-Pm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 04:02:32 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N99qK-00074E-40 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 04:02:32 +0000 Received: from rekin26.go2.pl ([193.17.41.76]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N99qH-0001dW-NA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 04:02:32 +0000 Received: from rekin26.go2.pl (rekin26.go2.pl [127.0.0.1]) by rekin26.go2.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E09635D7B2 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 05:02:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from unknown (unknown [10.0.0.142]) by rekin26.go2.pl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 05:02:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from 58-178-124-188.rev.pro-internet.pl [188.124.178.58] by poczta.o2.pl with ESMTP id YrbbQK; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 05:02:27 +0100 Message-ID: <007e01ca64df$463a2220$3ab27cbc@niurhaxf0xcqlj> From: "Marcin" To: References: <004001ca646a$c6ec0cf0$3ab27cbc@niurhaxf0xcqlj> <006401ca64af$954964f0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> <96512D470572478EB84804542242B39F@White> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 05:02:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-O2-Trust: 2, 61 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: sp2kds Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Markus, Claude, Dmitri, Andrey, Mal, LF Today LF QSO: DK7FC/p random QRSS 3 SP2RS crosband QSO CW SP2OVY crosband QSO CW and MF crosband qso 500kHz/3,5MHz, Mal G3KEV, CW I coped signal F8BOJ (M) and OE5ODL (audio 539) Im very happy, signal SP2KDS copy graber RA9CUA. :-) Dimitri and Markus, Im very sory from collision, no copied signal RA3YO. -- Vy 73! Marcin SQ2BXI (SP2KDS Team) Dear Marcin, you might want to move down very slightly to avoid the collision on 137.778: RA3YO 778.0 / 778.2 DFCW SP2KDS ~778.0 QRSS UA4WPF "W" 777.1 / 777.2 DFCW Good luck to all, Markus, DF6NM http://freenet-homepage.de/df6nm/Grabber.htm From: Andrey rn3agc Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 11:20 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: sp2kds Hello Marcin, LF, Strong signal SP2KDS. 73 Andrey > Dear LF > Station SP2KDS will be today started from 21:00 on 137.700 (qrss3) and later > 137.778 kHz (qrss60). > In time 20:00-21:00 search stations on 500kHz band. > -- > Vy 73! > Marcin SQ2BXI > (SP2KDS Team) > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com (rly-md01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.139]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD014-8e84b06a99c2b8; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:37:30 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD018-8e84b06a99c2b8; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:37:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBUau-0006Xm-K9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:36:16 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBUau-0006Xd-4A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:36:16 +0000 Received: from out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.239]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBUas-0001bM-OJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:36:16 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ah4FAOI3BktZ8e1g/2dsb2JhbACCJSyLO4IMxFGEPASBbw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,777,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="107323136" Received: from unknown (HELO your91hoehfy9g) ([89.241.237.96]) by out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 20 Nov 2009 14:36:08 +0000 Message-ID: <005c01ca69ee$cd475ee0$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:36:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Conditions to Eastt Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0059_01CA69EE.CD0BB570" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0059_01CA69EE.CD0BB570 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Laurence Are u monitoring LF and what QRG De Mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 2:09 PM Subject: LF: Conditions to Eastt DCF39 on 138.,83 and a bit up to S7 at 1400Z which is a good omen as= its still light on some of the path... Good luck Laurence BY3 A KL 1 X off to bed ------=_NextPart_000_0059_01CA69EE.CD0BB570 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Laurence
Are u monitoring LF and what QRG
De Mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 20, 20= 09 2:09=20 PM
Subject: LF: Conditions to Ea= stt

DCF39 on 138.,83 and a bit up to S7 at 140= 0Z which is=20 a good omen as its still light on some of the path...
 
Good luck
 
Laurence BY3 A KL 1 X off to=20 bed
------=_NextPart_000_0059_01CA69EE.CD0BB570-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD031-b884b090908317; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:49:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD072-b884b090908317; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:48:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NC92j-0000qa-RI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:47:41 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NC92j-0000qR-8J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:47:41 +0000 Received: from smtp22.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NC92h-00033z-ND for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:47:41 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2214.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B1686700008C for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:47:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (155.39.196-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.196.39.155]) by msfrf2214.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id BD21F7000089 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:47:41 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091122094741774.BD21F7000089@msfrf2214.sfr.fr Message-ID: <000901ca6b58$d09c9fe0$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:47:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091121-1, 21/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: f8boj hb9asb qso Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01CA6B61.31FA56D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01CA6B61.31FA56D0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0006_01CA6B61.31FCC7D0" ------=_NextPart_001_0006_01CA6B61.31FCC7D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HI Toni and LF Good morning Toni very signal in my qth... Many thanks for the qso and good sunday Claude f8boj ------=_NextPart_001_0006_01CA6B61.31FCC7D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
HI Toni and LF
Good morning Toni very signal in my= =20 qth...
Many thanks for the qso and good=20 sunday
Claude f8boj
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<000501ca67ba$e4817db0$6c01a8c0@DELL4> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 91.180.10.39 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WE2XGR/2 QRSS3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Jay, right now (22:15 UTC) I see a very weak signal on 506.515 kHz What power / ERP are you running ? 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting "jrusgrove@comcast.net" : > T/A enthusiasts > > WE2XGR/2 will beacon in QRSS3 mode tonight on 506.5 kHz from ~ 2130 to ~ > 0030 Z. Reports appreciated. > > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (rly-dc03.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.32]) by air-dc02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC022-b0f4affef12347; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 07:07:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC033-b0f4affef12347; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 07:07:47 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9dsV-0006Zi-MP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:06:47 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9dsV-0006ZZ-4a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:06:47 +0000 Received: from mailout10.t-online.de ([194.25.134.21]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9dsT-0007RG-GZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:06:47 +0000 Received: from fwd02.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.t-online.de with smtp id 1N9dsS-0001pf-05; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:06:44 +0100 Received: from e7010 (XRndYoZDohYokakeG83EZw0ReUIMRLA1-CQLYPyCnSfyoRKc-dC3LDShE9SZ9AjwuW@[84.147.204.247]) by fwd02.aul.t-online.de with smtp id 1N9dsO-1kxlYW0; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:06:40 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01ca65ec$16f199e0$6402a8c0@e7010> From: "Walter und Marianne Staubach" To: Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:06:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-ID: XRndYoZDohYokakeG83EZw0ReUIMRLA1-CQLYPyCnSfyoRKc-dC3LDShE9SZ9AjwuW X-TOI-MSGID: bf5c854a-def0-4380-a0be-aba947372c6a X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: DI2AG WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA65F4.7635BFA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA65F4.7635BFA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear MF, DI2AG is already on air in WSPR. QRG 505.090KHz, PWR 0.4W ERP.= Duty cycle 33%. The beacon will be busy until tomorrow morning. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA65F4.7635BFA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear MF,
      = DI2AG is=20 already on air in WSPR. QRG 505.090KHz, PWR 0.4W ERP. Duty cycle 33%.= The beacon=20 will be busy until tomorrow morning.
73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA65F4.7635BFA0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db05.mx.aol.com (rly-db05.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.80]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB033-ac94af7259c329; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:10:23 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB057-ac94af7259c329; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:10:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7E4O-0000Ql-6c for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:09:04 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7E4N-0000Qc-Lk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:09:03 +0000 Received: from out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.240]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7E4L-0006NA-IJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:09:03 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqkEAGa09kpcHccI/2dsb2JhbACEOtR5hD4E X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,704,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="73923207" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([92.29.199.8]) by out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 08 Nov 2009 20:08:55 +0000 Message-ID: <029701ca60af$4f444d20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <027601ca60a2$841cd150$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <020b01ca60a9$4495adc0$0201a8c0@Clemens04> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:08:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Two points Why waste 2.4 kHz when QRS only needs a few Hz with a better S/N ratio. You agree that a faint trace is visible. If this faint trace was QRS mode only a few Hz bandwidth would be necessary to read the intellegence and the signal/noise would be superior. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clemens Paul" To: Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 7:23 PM Subject: LF: Re: WSPR > Mal, > >>WSPR reports amongst stns indicate reception reports usually minus dB. >>Most of these >> stations are usually PLUS >>dB with me or very close to that figure. > > WSPR refers the indicated SNR to a BW of 2,4kHz. > So if your receiving BW is say 100Hz your actual SNR is better by ~14dB > than WSPR > reports. > >>A trace of the signal is visible long before a decode takes place, >>therefore why >>not use QRS in > >the first place. > > This may be an issue of your RX/soundcard setup. > I can assure you that with my Perseus SDR RX,set to a RBW of less than one > Hertz > for the display,I can decode every WSPR signal which shows even only a > faint trace on > the waterfall diagram. > At least this is my experience so far. > > 73 > Clemens > DL4RAJ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: mal hamilton > To: rsgb > Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 7:37 PM > Subject: LF: WSPR > > > WSPR reports amongst stns indicate reception reports usually minus dB. > Most of these stations > are usually PLUS dB with me or very close to that figure. > So what does that prove. I would say it depends on the RX antenna and not > necessarily > propagation. A large antenna yields better results than a small loop or > active whip. > When I switch from my 1/4 wave inv L for 500 khz to a smaller 40 m > resonated loop for 500 the > signals then do go down to a minus db figure. > So what is all this all ABOUT ? > There is also the TX pwr to consider. Two transmitters from the same > location one using QRO > and the other QRP will be received at different levels at a specified RX > location. There is a > lot of misrepresentation and misleading information by WSPR operator > A trace of the signal is visible long before a decode takes place, > therefore why not use QRS > in the first place. > > G3KEV > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.55/2489 - Release Date: 11/08/09 > 07:37:00 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.55/2489 - Release Date: 11/08/09 07:37:00 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb10.mx.aol.com (rly-mb10.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.168]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB023-d324af1d8e6341; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:41:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB106-d324af1d8e6341; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:41:28 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N5liQ-0007OW-NB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:40:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N5liP-0007ON-Pl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:40:21 +0000 Received: from [85.37.17.112] (helo=smtp-out112.alice.it) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N5lh7-0004xj-Lq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:39:02 +0000 Received: from fbcmmo06.fbc.local ([192.168.184.137]) by smtp-out112.alice.it with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 4 Nov 2009 20:39:54 +0100 Received: from FBCMCL01B01.fbc.local ([192.168.69.82]) by fbcmmo06.fbc.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 4 Nov 2009 20:39:49 +0100 Received: from IK1ODO.spin-it.com ([87.24.41.185]) by FBCMCL01B01.fbc.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 4 Nov 2009 20:39:50 +0100 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:39:33 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, ukmicrowaves@yahoogroups.com From: Marco IK1ODO In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Nov 2009 19:39:50.0499 (UTC) FILETIME=[92E56B30:01CA5D86] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: "Poisson, Shannon, and the Radio Amateur" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 At 19.49 04/11/2009, Andy Talbot wrote: >Thanks to all who responded, I do now have an E-copy. > > As Warren mentioned there are probably still copyright issues > (after 50 years ??) so it can't really be placed openly on a web site... > >Andy Ok, fine. I will appreciate a copy, just for my archives. I presume that IRE become IEEE, and they are VERY tight on copyrights. 73 - Marco IK!ODO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA052-8cc4b0081363e1; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:31:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA096-8cc4b0081363e1; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:31:20 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9nbx-0002pL-1q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:30:21 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9nbw-0002pC-1d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:30:20 +0000 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9nbt-00021X-OF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:30:19 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.1]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091115223007.GINB17277.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:30:07 +0000 Received: from [81.109.247.175] (helo=jimdesk) by know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9nbf-0001pN-UH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:30:07 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: References: <7C53F0821F4E4DAE965F1AFE9590A5AE@AGB> <269027.53851.qm@web28105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:29:58 -0000 Message-ID: <004201ca6643$2cf00590$0517aac0@jimdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <269027.53851.qm@web28105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Thread-Index: AcpmPwstC9TfVZojR5OIINATflaabwAA1s9w X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Qz28QKMV998A:10 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=VJGWS8Fr2nppAKGVaj0A:9 a=aqTLHaFCx_Y2TTNwvSoA:7 a=otbdvwKuaMRSKWeXBp6QhwJF5jMA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=QFc5Aota_INpNNSd:21 a=TTqTASvIiVODi6nc:21 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=ac1e44IZV6RScGn9zPsA:9 a=JGVybvEu2PWZVemNxXoA:7 a=m2aIvUlCoZXx8i6JAdBKXtjwF1UA:4 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: RE: LF: G7NKS - Double Side Band: wspr? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0043_01CA6643.2D45C6B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01CA6643.2D45C6B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear LF The double or treble reports on strong signals are due to a main hum problem on my system. It only seems to appear on 500 and only on signals where I am strong e,g, MOBMU and MOFMT. I'm working on some solutions and will also be getting a USB sound card to try and further isolate the sound from the mains. Apologies to all for the multiple decodes. I have tried turning the power down on the TX to get the extra decodes at M0BMU and MOFMT below -30dB so they are not picked up but to no avail. Pete's too close and Jim M's antenna is too good! USB sound card has been advised by several others so that's my next port of call With best regards Jim Dr. James Cowburn _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of M0FMT Sent: 15 November 2009 21:59 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: G7NKS - Double Side Band: wspr? Hi Jim and LF group Please observe the reports I am getting from Jim G7NKS WSPR transmissions :- First a weak one and then a strong one then a weak one (see below) does it mean there's a sprog / modulation on Jim's transmission off set by approximately +/-50c/s? I will try to get a time domain display of it when I have time, it may provide a clue. Is it my RX? 2009-11-15 21:26 G7NKS 0.503904 -26 -1 IO92ub 0.02 M0FMT IO91ux 9 180 2009-11-15 21:26 G7NKS 0.503853 +2 -1 IO92ub 0.02 M0FMT IO91ux 9 180 2009-11-15 21:26 G7NKS 0.503803 -25 -1 IO92ub 0.02 M0FMT IO91ux 9 180 Don't think it's my old HB drifty DC RX that accounts for it because all other reports are OK as far as I have seen to date but am open to comment. 73 petefmt ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01CA6643.2D45C6B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear LF

 

The double or= treble reports on strong signals are due to a main hum problem on my system.  It only seem= s to appear on 500 and only on signals where I am strong e,g, MOBMU and MOFMT.  = I’m working on some solutions and will also be getting a USB sound card to= try and further isolate the sound from the mains.

 

Apologies to al= l for the multiple decodes.  I have tried turning the power down on the TX to get the extra= decodes at M0BMU and MOFMT below -30dB so they are not picked up but to no avail.=  Pete’s too close and Jim M’s antenna is too good!

 

USB sound card= has been advised by several others so that’s my next port of call

 

 

 

With best regar= ds

 

 

Jim=

 

 

Dr. James Cowbu= rn

 

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org [mailto:owner-= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of M0FMT
Sent: 15 November 2009= 21:59
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: G7NKS= - Double Side Band: wspr?

 

Hi Jim and LF group

 

Please observe the reports I am getting= from Jim G7NKS WSPR transmissions :-

 

First a weak one and then a strong one= then a weak one (see below) does it mean there's a sprog / modulation on Ji= m's transmission off set by approximately +/-50c/s? I will try to get a= time domain display of it when I have time, it may provide a clue. Is it= my RX?

 

2009-11-15 21:26 

&= nbsp;G7NKS 

 0.503904 

 -26 

 -1 

&= nbsp;IO92ub 

 0.02 <= /font>

&= nbsp;M0FMT 

&= nbsp;IO91ux 

 9 

 180 

2009-11-15 21:26 

&= nbsp;G7NKS 

 0.503853 

 +2 

 -1 

&= nbsp;IO92ub 

 0.02 <= /font>

&= nbsp;M0FMT 

&= nbsp;IO91ux 

 9 

 180 

2009-11-15 21:26 

&= nbsp;G7NKS 

   0.503803 

-25 <= /p>

 -1 

&= nbsp;IO92ub 

   0.02 <= /span>

&= nbsp;M0FMT 

&= nbsp; IO91ux 

    9 

 180 

 

 

 

 

 

Don't think it's my old HB dri= fty DC RX that accounts for it because all other reports are OK as far as I ha= ve seen to date but am open to comment.

 

  73 petefmt

 

------=_NextPart_000_0043_01CA6643.2D45C6B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db08.mx.aol.com (rly-db08.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.83]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB061-ae14afdd52f2c8; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:52:53 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB087-ae14afdd52f2c8; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:52:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N943m-0005e4-GC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:52:02 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N943m-0005du-3I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:52:02 +0000 Received: from smtp21.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.1]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N943k-0008Hq-EM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:52:02 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2121.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 07D457000093 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:51:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from euro7g1ku6dl5q (17.214.194-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.194.214.17]) by msfrf2121.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id B9E47700008B for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:51:52 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091113215152761.B9E47700008B@msfrf2121.sfr.fr Message-ID: <001401ca64ab$82b81dd0$0301a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> From: "Claude Berthebaud" To: Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:51:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091113-1, 13/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: F8boj QRT...big wind in JNWA Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01CA64B3.E40C85F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01CA64B3.E40C85F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good Evening to ALL=20 I AM in qrT Beacause the wx in Bad Big wind 80km/ H sorry Marcin opered SP2KDS and dk8ND MM in JN16WA good night Claude F8boj JN16WA ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01CA64B3.E40C85F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0011_01CA64B3.E40C85F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da10.mx.aol.com (rly-da10.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.84]) by air-da08.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDA083-a924b12b8521da; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:07:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA102-a924b12b8521da; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:07:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEo9s-0002cG-AB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:06:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEo9r-0002c7-Rr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:06:03 +0000 Received: from lnx503.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de ([130.83.156.232]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEo9r-0003cZ-4a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:06:03 +0000 Received: from FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.212.129]) by lnx503.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.14.2/8.14.2/HRZ/PMX) with SMTP id nATI62Jr009933 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:06:02 +0100 (envelope-from schaefer@hst.tu-darmstadt.de) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de) by FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de with AVK MailGateway; for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:06:01 +0100 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:05:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AA6D@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> In-Reply-To: <2746F3E144D3480AB85CD466920B1313@lindavideo> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: 4kv diode Thread-Index: Acpw5HPyAhDsQWKaShyAGicVIiXkZAAOJ08A From: =?windows-1258?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= To: X-AVK-Virus-Check: AVB 19.595;29.11.2009 X-PMX-TU: seen v0.99a by 5.5.8.383112, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2009.11.29.175120 X-PMX-SPAMCHECK: outgoing mail X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: AW: 4kv diode Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CA711E.9B3D688F" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA711E.9B3D688F Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1258" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ken,=20 My hint is to try a BV8 Diode. It is able to take 500mA. On my work, I hav= e good experiences with the BV16, the 16kV Version.=20 Each one costs abt 1=80. Three in parallel, thermal coupled, should be no= problem at all. And: there=B4s no need for extra cooling! =20 73, Stefan=20 =20 -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org] Im Auftrag von Ken Gesendet: Sonntag, 29. November 2009 12:05 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: 4kv diode=20 =20 Hello All. I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or equivalent diode, BY4 4kv @ 1A, BY6 6k= v @ 1A, I have searched the web and looked in Farnell, any ideas please. =20 73. Ken =20 M0KHW =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA711E.9B3D688F Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1258" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Ken,=

My hint= is to try a BV8 Diode. It is able to take 500mA. On my work, I have good experiences with= the BV16, the 16kV Version.

Each one= costs abt 1=80. Three in parallel, thermal coupled, should be no problem at all. And: ther= e=B4s no need for extra cooling!

 

73, Stef= an

 

-----Urspr=FCngl= iche Nachricht-----
Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org] Im Auftrag von Ken Gesendet: Sonntag, 29. Nove= mber 2009 12:05
An: rsgb_lf_group@blackshee= p.org
Betreff: LF: 4kv diode

 

Hello All.<= /font>

I am looking for= a BY4 or BY6 or equivalent diode, BY4   4kv @ 1A, BY6  6kv @ 1A, I have sea= rched the web and looked in Farnell, any ideas please.

 

73.<= /p>

Ken<= /p>

 

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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db10.mx.aol.com (rly-db10.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.85]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB091-aed4b02d376283; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:47:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB103-aed4b02d376283; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:46:47 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NARBM-0003zh-4c for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:45:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NARBL-0003zY-HL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:45:31 +0000 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net ([165.212.64.31]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NARBK-0000xy-FI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:45:31 +0000 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net 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Z-USANET-MsgId: XID464NkqqtV3872X36 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126,MIME_HTML_ONLY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: G7NKS - Double Side Band: wspr? Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,HTML_TITLE_EMPTY,MIME_HTML_ONLY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) M0FMT wrote:
Veeeery interesting Alberto
 
Would that give me 192 Kc/s of tunable band width on my SDR radio given the right software?
There has been a lot of debate on the softrock reflector but this one seems to quite good. Do you have first hand experience of it? Christmas is coming ...hee hee.
 
73 petefmt

Pete,

  yes, I have one and I am quite satisfied with it. It can sample at 192 kHz, so it will give you from -96 to +96 kHz of band
around the center frequency tuned with the Softrock. Assuming of course that the low pass filters of the Softrock let such
a large portion of the spectrum pass unaffected... usually they cut at a value rather lower than that.... you will probably
have to change some capacitors.

The fact that it does not need an external power supply is handy too...

A suggestion : if you will use Winrad for it, set it to use the ASIO drivers to interface the card. You will then fully benefit
of the 24-bit amplitude resolution.

73  Alberto  i2PHD

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (rly-dc03.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.32]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDC081-b0e4b0c5e9b390; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:31:09 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC032-b0e4b0c5e9b390; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:30:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ND3tN-0007yU-VW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:29:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ND3tN-0007yL-DL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:29:49 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.128]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ND3tL-0004Um-Qz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:29:49 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3408.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D37041C0008F for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:29:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3408.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C62581C00098 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:29:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.43.164]) by mwinf3408.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 497111C0008F for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:29:39 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091124222939300.497111C0008F@mwinf3408.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <52A6DF956B1944F4BBF07AA8C96F9BC3@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <774E21EDD9DB4D8292615A728F4050AF@AGB> <97EE052373644555BA2C6F114C693250@2a2d7ed321c6425> In-Reply-To: <97EE052373644555BA2C6F114C693250@2a2d7ed321c6425> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:29:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: AW: STANAG .. What software is this showing ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00BE_01CA6D55.9B9C25F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00BE_01CA6D55.9B9C25F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks .Jose / Gerhard=20 73 - G ..=20 From: Beckmann, Gerhard=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:11 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Cc: 'Graham'=20 Subject: LF: AW: STANAG .. What software is this showing ?? Hello Graham, =20 Partly our good old PSK Sounder programm can decode STANAG messages (i= dentifier.) For further steps there is only commercial software available as far= as I know. http://www.klingenfuss.org/perseus.htm (for example -hi--) =20 Vy 73 de Gerhard // DK6NI =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D =20 =20 =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. November 2009 22:42 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: STANAG .. What software is this showing ?? =20 STANAG .. What software is this showing ?? =20 tnx - G ..=20 =20 =20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DxUeTE21RUMM =20 ------=_NextPart_000_00BE_01CA6D55.9B9C25F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks  .Jose / Gerhard <= /DIV>
 
73 - G ..

Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:11 PM
Subject: LF: AW: STANAG .. What software is this showing= =20 ??

Hello=20 Graham,

 

Partly our=20 good old PSK Sounder programm can decode STANAG messages=20 (identifier=85)

For further=20 steps there is only commercial software available as far as I=20 know.

http://www.kl= ingenfuss.org/perseus.htm

(for example=20 =96hi--)

 

Vy 73 de=20 Gerhard  //  DK6NI

 

=3D=3D=3D=3D

 

 

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Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham
Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. November 2009=20 22:42
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<= /A>
Betreff: LF:= STANAG .. What software is=20 this showing ??

 

STANAG .. What software is=20 this  showing ??

 

tnx - G ..=20

 

 

 



------=_NextPart_000_00BE_01CA6D55.9B9C25F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (rly-ma10.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.54]) by air-ma10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA104-8cf4b0976a92; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:36:49 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA101-8cf4b0976a92; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:36:43 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCGLe-00047a-0o for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:35:42 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCGLd-00047R-19 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:35:41 +0000 Received: from smtp825.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.13.122]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCGLb-00058c-CG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:35:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 51245 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2009 17:35:33 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=f9gmFNg7u/jHBPFcuJ8B2YJ7ea6S6GiR2E0181TBG/eEhwwirCF9v6Huis9QU4Zog4XZ51klnI0KcnIHJ2FUTeu+kTkZEXHJW2O54lGzt0aEzSZoxFRB+k/gQB7LdBb67Bxfk70A/Psp5gS1RgR7s3SHO+tn8Kzfv+WYbW/HHaw= ; Received: from unknown (HELO DennisPC) (dennis.easterling@86.134.97.243 with login) by smtp825.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Nov 2009 17:35:33 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: H_MJu2qswBDkdHeCAZfwexko6VNOiMP5URzYEvz3WrE5v1grQm6fnvJecjM9 X-YMail-OSG: yIw37.YVM1mO73w3Zd0CwUAuRZ_ViNjiy8Yj5XUjKk6oVI0aCIU23GK0HD8OV2tat4T8EebmgKxWfzHtVwvoT8efLgE2xDKCGe8u1HXtjjTm9bZ5mvLhgCidkaZr1J1FFCP5dgLpsiPEkAG60VjtUO.1ymkBbgRZ1MgX8CWPdx1TP3p7ubdse7Tjk5.xHlSrDGo.0kicNOCgpdTNj7yke3ZcD6.o.GLujUIvcwxlXIhVXbYChKnM4kPWkFkXKfNrCEzk_0UVsu3DdRkj2LmPjyoxyyTs9JwA16DVX5sQdQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <74629227B2D54C7793D197AAC8FB39F0@DennisPC> From: "DENNIS EASTERLING" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:35:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: LF: Re: [500 khz] M0JXM & G3XIZ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01C3_01CA6B9A.2EE3B110" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_01C3_01CA6B9A.2EE3B110 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Dave Thanks for the report, I will let Chris work out the details and let= me know. Chris definately has a better antenna and works more power= . 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dave G3WCB=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 12:10 PM Subject: LF: [500 khz] M0JXM & G3XIZ Hi, Dennis and Chris. I checked your relative signal strengths during your QSO on 500 kHz= this morning, using the Wandel & Golterman SPM-30. M0JXM was averagin= g -74 dBm, and G3XIZ was averaging -62 dBm, i.e. 12 dB stronger. If yo= u know how much RF power you were each using, you can deduce your rela= tive antenna efficiencies. Hope this is useful. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_gro= up@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: 21 November 2009 11:38 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: [500 khz] M0JXM... Hi, Dennis. Your signals are RST 579 here this morning. I can also hear G3DXZ= at 349/QSB, but he's sending too fast for reliable copy at this end.= =20 My antenna is a 20m long double wire "tee" at 5m, and the RX is a= W&G SPM-30 with a tuned J310 pre-amp. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Winds= or, s.e. England -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_g= roup@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of DENNIS EASTERLING Sent: 18 November 2009 17:16 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Lost QSO Hello Mal Sorry if I left you in the lurch 16.5 today, after giving you= a report 599 something happened and a single frequency signal came up= on top of you and slowly drifted down frequency, perhaps someone tuni= ng? Better luck next time. 73 Dennis M0JXM ------=_NextPart_000_01C3_01CA6B9A.2EE3B110 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Dave
 
Thanks for the report,  I will= let Chris work=20 out the details and let me know.   Chris definately has a be= tter=20 antenna and works more power.
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Dave G3WCB
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 20= 09 12:10=20 PM
Subject: LF: [500 khz] M0JXM= &=20 G3XIZ

Hi,=20 Dennis and Chris.
 
I=20 checked your relative signal strengths during your QSO on 500 kHz th= is=20 morning, using the Wandel & Golterman SPM-30. M0JXM was averagin= g -74 dBm,=20 and G3XIZ was averaging -62 dBm, i.e. 12 dB stronger. If you know ho= w much RF=20 power you were each using, you can deduce your relative antenna=20 efficiencies.
 
Hope=20 this is useful.
 
73,=20 Dave G3WCB IO91RM
-----Original Message-----
From:= =20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dav= e=20 G3WCB
Sent: 21 November 2009 11:38
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: [500 khz]=20 M0JXM...

Hi, Dennis.
 
Your signals are RST 579 here this morning. I ca= n=20 also hear G3DXZ at 349/QSB, but he's sending too fast for reliable= copy at=20 this end.=20
 
My antenna is a 20m lo= ng=20 double wire "tee" at 5m, and the RX is a W&G SPM-30 with a tun= ed J310=20 pre-amp. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM, nr Wind= sor, s.e.=20 England
-----Original Message-----
From:= =20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of D= ENNIS=20 EASTERLING
Sent: 18 November 2009 17:16
To:= =20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Lost=20 QSO

Hello Mal
 
Sorry if I left you in the lurc= h  16.5=20 today, after giving you a report 599 something happened and a si= ngle=20 frequency signal came up on top of you and slowly drifted= down=20 frequency, perhaps someone tuning?
 
Better luck next time.
 
73 Dennis=20 M0JXM
------=_NextPart_000_01C3_01CA6B9A.2EE3B110-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-de06.mx.aol.com (rly-de06.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.142]) by air-de08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE082-4e04aef19a411a; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:41:08 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE063-4e04aef19a411a; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:40:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N50sm-0000PU-LO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:39:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N50sm-0000PL-8X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:39:56 +0000 Received: from smtp827.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.189.241]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N50rJ-0000kc-37 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:38:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 71752 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2009 17:39:49 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=ASukd7LeHApGQFzweCQqg/z0SPEkk17MAwysgjO+oTmIO3lPBJosJCnOo08/S6MdLMVwOgPz6GrVFSF8x21PZ+LOkupT+zcouzreDSPx29yAYTZuKrFRLGaVDq3+80SiFCd+Q7rAMUQyZVMLhxP4FQI3icOC04/yJ0PKYTa54cU= ; Received: from unknown (HELO IBM7FFA209F07C) (c.ashby435@86.169.134.123 with login) by smtp827.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Nov 2009 17:39:49 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: 9STUSnaswBBSd6nO_2gAC20jmYlWRjmg8d5iYd8s.rl181aR6Sw- X-YMail-OSG: 4.wq17cVM1lN9_twD7vb0d.9YIAQJZUcIf7Vpam9QMyQbRhqrJ4bAq2Uxu7NP3jJXUduEdI3hVEJsOujwlVZuqjzMezo6jeWiIpMhifyGjycuQ2EzU5l5i0lBOPSqrqApUAZ7WyYGiOkAiNMa6DVpOr50CVkNTlMrVUQJM7DP8a3Qffee6nhbKsv6uEKX4LyHSSQA8M9TxXe6jQDZ.56ryNLJYdAB6HuDkklkV89lA3_9Al6nwFtBExwNgQC_jXAN4S0FGchljvOC2zixbnhawrQMc1H9Riit3kseA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <29E1BDFB13FC4538803E79FCA2553116@IBM7FFA209F07C> From: "Chris" To: References: <4AEF15CA.24356.160823@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:39:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: Re: LF: 'LF Today' Errors Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Mike! I'm still at your old QTH, trust all is well with you. Will make you a list of some errors I have spotted and foward it to you in due course. Even some of the page numbers in the 'Contents' list are incorrect. Whoever proof read your otherwise excellent books should be fired! Thanks,73, Chris, G4AYT. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Dennison" To: Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 5:24 PM Subject: Re: LF: 'LF Today' Errors > Chris, group, > > If you have spotted any errors or have any corrections / updates / > suggestions, please send them to me. I am not sure when / if the RSGB > will want a new edition, but it's likely that I will be involved one > way or another > > Mike, G3XDV > ========== > >> Does anybody know if someone is co-ordinating, compiling a list, or >> whatever, of the numerous errors in the RSGB publications 'LF Today'? >> I see errors in the book first published in 2004 have been carried >> forward (plus some extra ones!) in to the second edition first >> published 2007. It's not so much the obvious errors, but the ones that >> aren't quite so obvious that cause problems. I can't believe these >> books were ever proof read. Chris, G4AYT. > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb06.mx.aol.com (rly-mb06.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.164]) by air-mb04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB042-d144b046642dd; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:25:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB068-d144b046642dd; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:25:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAs0Z-0004ye-Lk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:24:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAs0Z-0004yV-7X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:24:11 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAs0Y-0002fN-7q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:24:11 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so1744528bwz.4 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:24:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=oOEQ3G5foyyA1eG2wKfT0LU/91rOeofXXKeUynMUaF4=; b=tr/BZRZF/Ux4WnYauhqAbMCzOyXTRpAPuiRCA2ncTknZJZKmFfZDLVdWNJzwJrT1MN EbpqJrRPggNNVVAFHdmr64gus98vSezjK9o7pGDpoEQC7t8UojX/MevxFCcqkdoRFsFU MLa376IQjFdcTEPkZtKFQwWxK/1//gWSP0ShU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pE5swHLkGlGSvrvMr4vF8lxR+OZXVTwTo2YOb7h6jckfIgcovNJGg+4lh8ZzRzG23e MgNk8knnbD/l5uRsgETmiI0SQJFabkAjxx5X31z7WbTIEyfGmEFgoZqcc/pcfkiS4h8g n3+GaNDr/U3kMIFvLb03uf4ZW9hiwNk4aEG20= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.139.204 with SMTP id u12mr333999hbu.81.1258579444370; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:24:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20091118085815.7282031E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <477782.43526.qm@web28104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <20091118102656.11BAD31E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <20091118145534.2BE5D31E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <002201ca6865$1c55a180$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:24:04 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: Re: 500kHz in Belgium Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m285.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) You need to copy and paste the URL - the closing curly bracket is necessary but doesn't get carried across on just clicking on the link. Very satisfying - nothing about listening to a carrier being pulsed on and= off Andy www.g4jnt.com This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health and safety police 2009/11/18 Rik Strobbe : > http://www.itu.int/ITU-R/asp/terminology-definition.asp?lang=3Den&rlink= =3D{AA1D0B6B-97AB-403D-B2C0-136FF09F8422} > > ________________________________ > Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org] > namens mal hamilton [g3kevmal@talktalk.net] > Verzonden: woensdag 18 november 2009 16:38 > Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Onderwerp: LF: Re: 500kHz in Belgium > > Rik > What ITU document contains the definition that digital modes are telegra= phy. > The official handbook issued by HM STATIONARY OFFICE for radio officers > states that telegraphy is on/off keyed morse code ie CW and MCW > and telephony a voice transmission. Other permitted modes fall into a > different category. > G3KEV > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rik Strobbe > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 2:55 PM > Subject: LF: 500kHz in Belgium > All, > > over the past weeks I received several questions wether ECC Recommendati= on > T/R 61-01 includes 501-504kHz in Belgium. > > I asked BIPT (our Ofcom, FCC, ...) and received this answer (in Dutch)= : > > Een buitenlandse titularis van een HAREC vergunning mag onder dezelfde > voorwaarden als de Belgische radioamateurs alle toegelaten klassen van > uitzending en alle frequenties gebruiken. > Dan mag hij ook de frequentieband 501-504 kHz gebruiken. > > English translation: > A foreign holder of a HAREC licence may operate under the same condition= s as > Belgian radio amateurs, using all approved modes and frequencies. > This includes the frequency range 501-504kHz. > > So it is legal to operate as ON/PAxxx/P, ON/Fxxxx/P, ON/Gxxxx/P etc. > Restrictions (that of course also apply to our foreign guests): > - 501-504kHz > - NIB > - max. 5W EIRP (not ERP !) > - max. 100Hz bandwidth > - only telegraphy (as per ITU definition, thus includes digital text mod= es) > > 73, Rik=A0 ON7YD - OR7T From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db09.mx.aol.com (rly-db09.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.84]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB054-ae84b004dd1211; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:52:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB096-ae84b004dd1211; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:52:03 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9kBt-0008TL-67 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:51:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9kBs-0008TC-Nk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:51:12 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9kBr-0002NA-Mr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:51:12 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so5097968bwz.4 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:51:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=z9pkw1Aqvz/HyZDt6nlar0RtIwax6whweoTu224JCv4=; b=ht25g3FtrQ3o0Wnm84lvJtK/baNpS7ZJG4WLecmUDbK0ICamPOKaVsPcmz8+iOIhKw B8QBUc+LccsRC1E/IZVQeiZpRsVozTAvP+DEj74hes77Pl7DtsCTfrtMsZbrHenWJ/q6 9UN9L2pt4yzTmL41EjPFY/J4/tlL3yYIyqWZ8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=CnopfcMHC3cg62O04UPWrL44PN4Ngy0Bf6TJVAStF6Zh91sC/JCZCcNewnhAOguC+H 5Q2drTvi7YIe6JWndazE0Q5HI4amMbStZYrEBjD8haSuyFIPfNJ8LD/ghayOEfsxTQ5H lduWIQgtwzpgDL83auwmWGDBUPQ8wp8/0ksok= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.155.65 with SMTP id r1mr3075415bkw.143.1258311065699; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:51:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <0CADF4DD71FD43A2A8384463754F6344@AGB> References: <1043CB7D895D4161B1C87CDD140332A2@AGB> <0CADF4DD71FD43A2A8384463754F6344@AGB> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:51:05 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911151051x6f687a00ka5b1f24be7925217@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: Re: LF: Running mW wspr Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151747afcc16880f04786d60d0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m243.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --00151747afcc16880f04786d60d0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Welcome to the *real* fun of ultra-QRP WSPRing Graham!. It really does show how effective a mode WSPR is. Good luck Roger G3XBM 2009/11/15 Graham > 2009-11-15 18:30 G0NBD 0.503898 -27 0 IO83lk 0.2 GM4SLV > IP90gg 766 7 2009-11-15 18:32 G0NBD 0.503898 -28 0 > IO83lk 0.2 GM4SLV IP90gg 766 7 > > Crazy system ..... spot just in from John ! > > tnx G .. > > > > *From:* Graham > *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2009 6:24 PM > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* LF: Running mW wspr > > Running wspr at 100 % duty , not sure of the power to the Ae as the > needle on the power meter is not moving , the first 3 small divisions on > the bird43 are 10 watts , the needle is still inside the -0- no rx as I > have a set of spurs right over the wspr band at the moment > > spots from G4WGT 33k G3RIk 65k M0BMU 270 ! > > G .. > > > > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --00151747afcc16880f04786d60d0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Welcome to the real fun of ultra-QRP WSPRing Graham!. It really doe= s show how effective a mode WSPR is.=A0

Good luck
Roger G3XBM


2009/11/15 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk<= /a>>
=A02009-11-15 18:30=A0 =A0G0NBD=A0 =A00.503898=A0 =A0-27=A0 =A00=A0 =A0IO83lk=A0 =A00.2=A0 =A0GM4SLV=A0 =A0IP90gg=A0 =A0766=A0 =A07=A0
=A02009-11-15 18:32=A0 =A0G0NBD=A0 =A00.503898=A0 =A0-28=A0 =A00=A0 =A0IO83lk=A0 =A00.2=A0 =A0GM4SLV=A0 =A0IP90gg=A0 =A0766=A0 =A07=A0
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Crazy system .....=A0 spot=A0 just in= from=20 John=A0 !
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tnx=A0 G .. =A0
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Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 6:24 PM
Subject: LF: Running mW wspr

Running=A0=A0 wspr at 100 % duty , no= t sure=20 of the=A0 power to the=A0 Ae as the=A0 needle on the=A0 power meter=20 is=A0 not =A0moving , the=A0 first 3 small=A0divisions on the=A0=20 bird43 are 10 watts=A0 , the needle is=A0 still inside the=A0 -0-=A0=20 no rx as I have a set of=A0 spurs=A0 right over the=A0 wspr band=A0=20 at the=A0 moment
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spots=A0 from G4WGT 33k=A0 G3RIk=A0= 65k=20 M0BMU 270=A0 !
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--00151747afcc16880f04786d60d0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com (rly-md01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.139]) by air-md07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD072-8e74b06ff92180; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:44:18 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD017-8e74b06ff92180; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:44:03 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBaJo-0001Nl-Q1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:43:00 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBaJo-0001Nc-9e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:43:00 +0000 Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBaJn-0004d4-H0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:43:00 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.4]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091120204254.SQLF27507.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:42:54 +0000 Received: from [81.109.247.175] (helo=desktop) by know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBaJh-0003eX-D2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:42:54 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: References: <20091120141648.8WGQY.1557635.root@mp17> <007f01ca6a1b$34a0b8d0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:42:50 -0000 Message-ID: <009a01ca6a22$07a90470$0517aac0@desktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <007f01ca6a1b$34a0b8d0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcpqG2S5+xyRey7mR6qBjWiCGAN4wQABdnbg X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=nN7BH9HXAAAA:8 a=k339kGAnMhvy_VcYNhMA:9 a=hTg6t9m-Q7iKxWre1m0A:7 a=PbcNNp3a2wdYmbfqCZs7sOMhXNgA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=muIvw5a9-cgA:10 a=OagzxVuYODngwXtU:21 a=MkMuQcpFQ_psjLH7:21 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: WSPR a QSO mode not just beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear All, According to the ARRL, WSPR contacts, if verified as two way, will qualify towards DXCC awards as they consider these to be a QSO mode and not simply a beacon. As there is an exchange of callsign, locator and signal strength then that was deemed sufficient by the ARRL to qualify for DXCC and as a QSO in a data mode much like RTTY or PSK31 for example. This was discussed at the recent RSGB conference in a session on WSPR. With best regards Jim -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton Sent: 20 November 2009 19:54 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: WD2XES WSPR 136.0 Recently there has been an upsurge in wspr BEACON appliance operators and your suggested frequency area is not the place for them. The bottom end would keep Beacon acty out of the way. There would still be room for the odd EU qrs operator, can't say I have heard many in recent years. The freq area 137 - 138 k/cs is frequently occupied by Russian and other EU dxers for inter Country working using CW and QRS and 136.5 - 137 for local CW working. NA stns wishing to work EU would still use 137 - 138 on CW and QRS and not be clobbered by wspr carriers going ON/OFF. I hope you see the logic G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:16 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: WD2XES WSPR 136.0 > Thanks for the suggestion, but I doubt it will cause you any more interference than it has for the last 5 years. From our perspective, the lower end of the band has long been reserved for EU to NA operation. > > John, W1TAG > > ---- mal hamilton wrote: > > om I woud suggest you Beacon at the extreme bottom end of the band and not > > in the middle of the CW and QRS DX portion. > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA062-8c34aff0c6a1b3; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:01:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA085-8c34aff0c6a1b3; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:00:45 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9Omh-0000X4-P2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:59:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9Omh-0000Wv-9f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:59:47 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9Omf-0007c2-TN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:59:47 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so4606829bwz.4 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:59:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=0KYz7mszipftVyb+eCJ8n0TC9l6WCusra+sR52wO3B0=; b=PXvy04/kNYLO0fLIAmSA9ruP/y95le+ycq1QuHWaMAKIgzLtTJG7kn5VatCrx7+izU RyovXigp6Z/zQuvVMbOsf05baqX3RAUqzux4/ICdUi/2M2hPj32swBc2E42P+sHqEkFh e4l74mF565uNNsNH6cK7drtTKVwgcWg5G2jfI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=qy8obWSqZlD6tkf84xBBcGGBJpSeNezaQRaN02mh+uVm/ZWiMTBwMqNWi5txy0n7uI Uot8QREsipDmR2o3OBKH4YcS/tt5R4ryUFt4eJNP8ta/PcGfCItEJVAp9iVuxuR4mRno ePeX3eyZVywTGNja12jNYkcS/qwq/iAty4lGA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.24.130 with SMTP id v2mr4151241bkb.33.1258228779123; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:59:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:59:39 +0000 Message-ID: <9afca2640911141159m31c9a9a8h54bab97f02e9deb4@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 500kHz WSPR - not tonight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00032555999e6d047d04785a372d X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m239.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --00032555999e6d047d04785a372d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Unfortunately my antenna seems to have been upset by the wet weather and I cannot get it to match on 500kHz. So, although I planned to TX some WSPR tonight I will only be able to listen. Hopefully later in the week when I hope to come on CW too. 73s Roger G3XBM -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --00032555999e6d047d04785a372d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Unfortunately my antenna seems to have been upset by the wet weather and= I cannot get it to match on 500kHz. So, although I planned to TX some WSP= R tonight I will only be able to listen. Hopefully later in the week when= I hope to come on CW too.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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--00032555999e6d047d04785a372d-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg12.mx.aol.com (rly-dg12.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.96]) by air-dg04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG043-60f4b057ccf74; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:13:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG126-60f4b057ccf74; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:13:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBAZ1-0001IY-6D for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:12:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBAZ0-0001IP-QZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:12:58 +0000 Received: from mail-yx0-f203.google.com ([209.85.210.203]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBAZ0-0000oX-12 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:12:58 +0000 Received: by yxe41 with SMTP id 41so5241845yxe.30 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:12:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=mC9ndMieMOeZ3ERN+JUf8NbZScgwqC3EOI9wqZLRNWg=; b=RWmmE4xRwUizdy7eYHVrXXO4CIkQQigNZ1q0ZMYPCuuwLcAqMpkZvDcwn8cnn8KIWU pwHqg2IdYMkKV0ykO5B45e5V0T59HQdV/7KyhsXAbQJEzh28oWxMKt+eD4uUuYLMS/HN lBZ+VTPztJQB8z/2UXP30deSFjoxvFLdsNS7A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gTUcdwcqsFD2r5ERoSslOZcyua1aRsxhevr4YRuS658q3hAIINzyjMBRvWRpV5w82r /EWSmPEACMxdfxZW0yOD/SuzP4U88SI07Q+5PTU1tintH+7GOS6Nex4jk1gMZTvRXNKq HlemwdsCmJyw/n+4sKkqUBIHBgk2WmWlDgQt8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.7.17 with SMTP id 17mr592128ybg.47.1258650767965; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:12:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:12:47 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70911190912k39eab8eah5fcf7a29b005c44b@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m213.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Lubos, Thank you for the great capture! Yes very good band conditions! --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2009/11/19 Lubos OK2BVG : > Hello Warren, Jean-Pierre, LF! > The XGJ signal was very nice last night (but I had opened a window and= my RX > drifted abt 0.1Hz,=A0 HI!) > > 73! > > Lubos, OK2BVG > > ________________________________ > Windows 7: Kter=FD po=E8=EDta=E8 je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD? Dal=B9=ED inf= ormace. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME062-9a94b02d44b3e; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:50:30 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME035-9a94b02d44b3e; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:50:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NARFC-00042p-2M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:49:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NARFB-00042g-Ii for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:49:29 +0000 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net ([165.212.64.31]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NARFA-0000zV-Sl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:49:29 +0000 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net (cmsout01-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout01.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CE282AC58F for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:49:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps02.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.138] by cmsout01.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.58V) with ESMTP id XID054NkqqxX5632X01; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:49:23 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.138 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps02.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID054NkqqxX5632X01 Received: from [192.168.1.3] [151.47.214.229] by cmsapps02.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.53P) with ESMTPA id 273NkqqxV9472M38; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:49:21 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.214.229 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.1.3] Message-ID: <4B02D40E.20804@usa.net> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:49:18 +0100 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <626551.33117.qm@web63607.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <002e01ca66fa$9edc5f20$0900a8c0@lark> In-Reply-To: <002e01ca66fa$9edc5f20$0900a8c0@lark> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Z-USANET-MsgId: XID273Nkqqxw9472X38 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: LEONIDS and propagation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Alan Melia wrote: > In Europe, the Graves satellite radar on 140.050 is a good way to > watch pings with something like Argo or Spectrum Lab. Alan, are you sure about that frequency ? I read on another group that the Graves radar operates on 143.050 MHz I have no direct experience about that. I am just reporting what I read. 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md09.mx.aol.com (rly-md09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.147]) by air-md07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD073-9244af8328338e; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:17:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD094-9244af8328338e; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:17:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7VyX-00046w-7i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:16:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7VyW-00046n-Nh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:16:12 +0000 Received: from mx.omskcity.com ([79.133.160.2]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7Vxd-0008OI-Gc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:15:18 +0000 Received: from noname.nodomain.nowhere (host209.161-133-79.sotline.ru [79.133.161.209]) by mx.omskcity.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nA9FG3Xl034238 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:16:05 +0600 (OMST) (envelope-from fitec@omskcity.com) Received: from localhost (fitec@localhost) by noname.nodomain.nowhere (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA00267 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:18:14 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: noname.nodomain.nowhere: fitec owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:18:14 +0000 (GMT) From: "Alexander S. Yurkov" To: rsgb In-Reply-To: <026601ca609f$82671260$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.8 (mx.omskcity.com [79.133.160.2]); Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:16:07 +0600 (OMST) X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DATE_IN_FUTURE_06_12=1.498 Subject: Re: LF: TREES Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_FUTURE_06_12 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) It is simple:-) Trees effect to a loop is much lower then such an effect to an E-antenna. This is why loop is better then E-antenna in bad enviroment (trees). While E-antenna is better then loop of the same dimensions if trees are absent. On Sun, 8 Nov 2009, mal hamilton wrote: > Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:15:49 -0000 > From: mal hamilton > Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > To: rsgb > Subject: LF: TREES > > According to some USA stn they thread and hang their loops through tree branches. This info has appeared in the past on this reflector. > Are UK trees different from those in the USA ? > Apart from me no one else in the UK seemed to think this was a problem !! > G3KEV > Regards, Alexander From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc04.mx.aol.com (rly-mc04.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.88]) by air-mc05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC051-d6f4b0802ebd5; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:10:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC047-d6f4b0802ebd5; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:10:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBrak-0006Fx-QQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:09:38 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBrak-0006Fo-3S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:09:38 +0000 Received: from mailout1.go2.pl ([193.17.41.11]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBrai-0001Jp-Ef for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:09:38 +0000 Received: from mailout1.go2.pl (unknown [10.0.0.103]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE38D5D514F for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:09:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from unknown (unknown [10.0.0.42]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:09:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from 58-178-124-188.rev.pro-internet.pl [188.124.178.58] by poczta.o2.pl with ESMTP id nMnfMj; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:09:32 +0100 Message-ID: <002401ca6abc$a0211900$3ab27cbc@niurhaxf0xcqlj> From: "Marcin" To: References: <4B07ABA4.4060102@online.fr> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:09:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-O2-Trust: 2, 69 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: LF T/A [137 kHz] good conditions ! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Jean-Pierre, LF Test transmit signal KDS it is SP2KDS. -- Vy 73! Marcin SQ2BXI Hello LF, Good conditions last night on 137 Khz ! Yesterday evening : =93Y=94 (RA3YO) dfcw60 =93KDS=94 (????) qrss120 =93XKO=94 (WD2XKO) qrss 30 This Morning : XKO (WD2XKO) qrss60 Dex, pse look on my grabber , your sig are vy strong ! Thank you to be returned on 137 Khz ! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb01.mx.aol.com (rly-mb01.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.154]) by air-mb02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB022-cea4af7537d45; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:25:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB016-cea4af7537d45; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:25:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7H7z-0001xI-El for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:24:59 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7H7y-0001x9-Og for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:24:58 +0000 Received: from web28104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.124]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7H7y-0007Bm-2d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:24:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 8358 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Nov 2009 23:24:52 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1257722692; bh=Dquk9QDuS0nK3KYU5l/rjcOpCPJ4wkw1BGzzonsvP/A=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VVQS5G2E3H0mAE+MY3lIf1EIHopaWhGD3rplGlwxW1eI3LQ8FXxMURnmcCXRgsdylKgKaun4fJxCwXFbf8BcarkaITE5Ix6cRzc2aU7f6C1t6cLP+MIzmzKHUkK60uQAS+lvIvd5B7pPzEnwJZqFQr2yqbBzu6dt47K98+VdNOQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=1JQN7pBJzw4uukuS+uo+JjAwpm6yDrrLZ2FDOr8dgUjrzz7V7kb1L/au/VbLfvlBLruuB0ssMY5/JgHXjye2LEGzV9hJcvE+tJZ2XvRhO/obrKdww0s4lsB6HR6AqwrP9zRkhHc6+7qkH2B4GIsXbPq65HKoJzUg1tusFoB/N68=; Message-ID: <830145.7281.qm@web28104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: y9Ue6jwVM1ndQTQ8LX4VXD4VKXe4s5.KzRiK_tiTUmRY6DtfuQJCPo2Qi0pHlDy.RVxitrXr5bVKwYR.rtxekLV18ro.1O47R2BsTZ4_fGZFcQcUf1_SzAh1lpkELSah0e2slJ33oWek7olUTJjYI3IF2.rhwL9zKqBBVm44Ew9oNnaISAjmoPhbdF5lz.RghZhpQ1OnzS4LGN6cFEEEBCSkPErwa6_wy3uSGleHvniuoTMOsl_KMk_.P0ozSc.KmEOIDc9KSCBfqQ_07ST562v6bVfq0FE_paPviYupGVaiVFvWCX.bzP0dvaas5h5HYdHtJgHnt_ofFJ8- Received: from [86.166.78.110] by web28104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:24:52 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:24:52 -0800 (PST) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <9afca2640911081518j40fe9c13s7e37f3f02987cc1c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2010811570-1257722692=:7281" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,LINES_OF_YELLING,LINES_OF_YELLING_2 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d224.2 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-2010811570-1257722692=:7281 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I despair! --- On Sun, 8/11/09, Roger Lapthorn wrote: From: Roger Lapthorn Subject: Re: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sunday, 8 November, 2009, 23:18 Congratulations Chris - excellent work. A small comment about WSPR... all of us who WSPR only occupy 200Hz of the= band in total and there is the potential for about=A0 >100 WSPR stations= to share this space at any time by using 10% TX only and assuming 6Hz/sta= tion is needed for any transmission.=A0 This is GOOD use of the spectrum= in my book. 73s (and work you on the key soon!) Roger G3XBM 2009/11/8 M0FMT Congratulations Chris =A0 A nice piece of work. And thank you for making 600metres the kind of band= it should be. =A0 I support your comments. We really need a band the size of the Norwegian= allocation to=A0coexist with=A0these incompatible, to CW,=A0modes.=A0 =A0 Very 73=A0=A0 Petefmt --- On Sun, 8/11/09, Chris Osborn wrote: From: Chris Osborn Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO To: "LF Group" Date: Sunday, 8 November, 2009, 18:03 LF It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using 600m. This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which were 600m /= 80m. Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0CF -= No. 998. QSO break-down according to mode: =A0=A0=A0 928 CW,=A0 34 RTTY=A0 and=A0= =A0 5 QRSS 600m STATIONS My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many of= these go back to the start of the UK=A0 600m allocation in March 2007. Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding beaco= ns). Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of agai= n:=A0 G3KZU, G3YHV . . . Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT:=A0 G3UNT, G3V= TT, G4GDR. . . MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work the same sta= tions many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of my total conta= cts. My most frequently worked stations are: GW3UEP - 120=A0=A0=A0=A0 G3KEV - 102=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 M0FMT - 90=A0=A0=A0=A0= G3ZWH=A0 -=A0 80=A0 (alas now SK) G3DXZ=A0=A0=A0 -=A0=A0 67=A0=A0=A0=A0 G4GDR -=A0=A0 60=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 EI0C= F/ GI4DPE=A0 -=A0 51=A0=A0 M0JXM - 48 G3UNT=A0=A0=A0 -=A0=A0 45=A0=A0=A0=A0 G3VTT=A0 -=A0=A0 38 CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy a cross-ba= nd QSO: DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . . and our few EU MF friends are still active: ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . . WSPR ON 600m I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for the WSPR= mode was never achieved for=A0 hand sent Morse (CW), which after all is= the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF marine band. If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger stations oper= ating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band then I guess= it may be time for me to QSY. 73 Chris G3XIZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088 =20 --0-2010811570-1257722692=:7281 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I despair!

--- On Sun, 8/11/09,= Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.c= om>
Subject: Re: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO
To: rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org
Date: Sunday, 8 November, 2009, 23:18

Congratulations Chris - excellent work.

A sm= all comment about WSPR... all of us who WSPR only occupy 200Hz of the band= in total and there is the potential for about  >100 WSPR= stations to share this space at any time by using 10% TX only and assumin= g 6Hz/station is needed for any transmission.  This is GOOD use of th= e spectrum in my book.

73s (and work you on the key soon!)
Roger= G3XBM


2009/11/8 M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.u= k>
Congratulations Chris
 
A nice piece of work. And thank you for making 600metres the kind of= band it should be.
 
I support your comments. We really need a band the size of the Norweg= ian allocation to coexist with these incompatible, to CW, m= odes. 
 
Very 73   Petefmt

--- On Sun, 8/11/09, Chris Osbo= rn <g3xiz@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

From: Chris Osborn <g3xiz@yahoo.co.uk><= BR>Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO
To: "LF Group" <= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Date: Sunday,= 8 November, 2009, 18:03


LF

It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO= using 600m.
This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of whi= ch were 600m / 80m.

Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up= G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0CF - No. 998.

QSO break-down according to= mode:     928 CW,  34 RTTY  and   5 QR= SS

600m STATIONS<= BR>
My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations and many of these go back to the star= t of the UK  600m allocation in March 2007.
Of these I have worked= or heard only 15 in the past month (excluding beacons).
Many stations= on my list came up only briefly and were never heard of again:  G3KZ= U, G3YHV . . .
Others were once very active but have subsequently gone= QRT:  G3UNT, G3VTT, G4GDR. . .

MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED

With so few active operators it is obviou= s that one will work the same stations many times and the top 10 stations= account for 70% of my total contacts.
My most frequently worked statio= ns are:

GW3UEP - 120     G3KEV - 102  = ;    M0FMT - 90     G3ZWH  - = 80  (alas now SK)
G3DXZ    -   67 &= nbsp;   G4GDR -   60      EI0= CF/ GI4DPE  -  51   M0JXM - 48
G3UNT  &nb= sp; -   45     G3VTT  -   38<= BR>
CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIO= NS

There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and= enjoy a cross-band QSO:
DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF .= . .

and our few EU MF friends are still active:
ON4KTJ, OR7T an= d OZ8NJ. . .

WSPR ON 600m
I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm for th= e WSPR mode was never achieved for  hand sent Morse (CW), which after= all is the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF marine= band.
If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger sta= tions operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m band th= en I guess it may be time for me to QSY.

73 Chris G3XIZ









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Henny pa3cpm
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([81.103.221.48]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N50dx-0000Cx-78 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:24:38 +0000 Received: from aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091102172430.DLTU27507.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:24:30 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.34] (really [82.22.242.219]) by aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20091102172430.MVTO21638.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.2.34]> for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:24:30 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:24:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4AEF15CA.24356.160823@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> In-reply-to: References: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=9YlaCzn6_68A:10 a=OaGbGVO20IcnsWtDJP8A:9 a=ypmu3CjFLNQq21O-c0NNt8dUVyYA:4 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 'LF Today' Errors Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Chris, group, If you have spotted any errors or have any corrections / updates / suggestions, please send them to me. I am not sure when / if the RSGB will want a new edition, but it's likely that I will be involved one way or another Mike, G3XDV ========== > Does anybody know if someone is co-ordinating, compiling a list, or > whatever, of the numerous errors in the RSGB publications 'LF Today'? > I see errors in the book first published in 2004 have been carried > forward (plus some extra ones!) in to the second edition first > published 2007. It's not so much the obvious errors, but the ones that > aren't quite so obvious that cause problems. I can't believe these > books were ever proof read. Chris, G4AYT. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (rly-dc09.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.38]) by air-dc04.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDC043-b3e4b1298d4280; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:53:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC092-b3e4b1298d4280; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:52:54 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEm3u-0001zh-IE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:51:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEm3u-0001zY-1P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:51:46 +0000 Received: from mbox1.netikka.net ([213.250.81.202]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEm3t-0002pv-B6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:51:46 +0000 Received: from hupu.netikka.net (hupu [172.16.83.91]) by mbox1-feedback.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8608227173B for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:51:39 +0200 (EET) Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by hupu.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D0424B0045 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:51:39 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C434495B8C for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:51:39 +0200 (EET) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:51:39 +0200 Message-ID: <1259509899.4b12988b783b8@imp.netikka.net> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:51:39 +0200 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <2746F3E144D3480AB85CD466920B1313@lindavideo> <003001ca70e7$24aaf3a0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <003c01ca70eb$0aa52120$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <4B126AF9.3050300@ntlworld.com> <005001ca70f9$f63904e0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <1259505915.4b1288fb018a7@imp.netikka.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv diode Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Ok Ken Further I would not worry as much regarding the voltage rating of the equa= lizing resistors. Use physically large units with an adequate power rating (U^2= / R) and they will probably be fine. After all there are more stories out there about blown diodes than equalizing resistor flash-overs. Are you sure you can't squeeze in at least three diodes per leg? This woul= d ease the equalizing resistor voltage requirements a bit too. Just two BY255's= per leg sounds scary for 2.3kV peak. BR Paul-Henrik Quoting Ken : > Hi Paul. > On my last mailing I got the BY255 current wrong. > > Ken > > M0KHW > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul-Henrik" > To: > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 2:45 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv diode > > > BY255 should be a suitable building block rated 1300V PIV 3A. > > Use equalizing resistors in parallell with each diode, typical values us= ed > are > 470...820kohm. Only controlled avalanche diodes can be series connected > safely > without a reverse voltage equalizing network. > > Make sure you implement a healthy safety marigin, ie. don't use just as= many > diodes needed to acheive the needed voltage rating. Using 3 amp diodes= when > 1 > amp is called for is no luxury either. You don't want to hear the sound= of > an > angry rattlesnake from your thunderbox... this sound is often followed= by > popping and oozing electrolytic capacitors. > > > Good luck and please don't get zapped > > Paul-Henrik > > Quoting mal hamilton : > > > Yes series for more V parallel for more I(amps) and preferable some= R and > > C > > across each except they are really identical. > > mal/g3kev > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: David Towers > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 12:37 PM > > Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv diode > > > > > > Hi Mal > > surely "in series" to give a 4 KV diode at 1amp ? > > dave G8SZX > > > > > > > > mal hamilton wrote: > > Ken > > On the serious side, use 6 x 1Kvolt @ 1A in parallel if u are stuc= k. > > Don't get zapped > > 73 mal/g3kev > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: mal hamilton > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:28 AM > > Subject: LF: Re: 4kv diode > > > > > > Electric Chair Co > > Zapenda Cul de sac > > Hellda State > > Zip73 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Ken > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:04 AM > > Subject: LF: 4kv diode > > > > > > Hello All. > > I am looking for a BY4 or BY6 or equivalent diode, BY4 4kv= @ 1A, > > BY6 6kv @ 1A, I have searched the web and looked in Farnell, any idea= s > > please. > > > > 73. > > Ken > > > > M0KHW > > > > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (rly-ma07.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.51]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMA052-8b84b129704313; 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format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Tacey. Thanks for the reply. I only seached ebay up to 5kV. Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tracey Gardner" To: Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 3:30 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 4kv diode > Hello Ken > > How about these on ebay? > 4pcs 1 Amp 10kV High Voltage Rectifier > Item number:250539436700 > > Tracey > > > Hello Everyone. > Thanks for the replies, I have some BY255's which are rated at 1300v at > 1A, the input to the diode stack is about 2.3KV peak, and was planning to > use two BY255s in series in each of the four legs, of the full wave > bridge, the problem is most resistors are only rated at 500v, hence using > a single diode would remove the need for resistors. With resistors rated > at 500v, this would require 16 diodes, and there is not that amount of > space. Next question does anyone know of a source of 470K resistore rated > at 1KV? these are rare and expensive animals > > 73 > Ken > M0KHW > ----- > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (rly-ma06.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.50]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMA011-8b64b12aa69376; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:08:09 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA068-8b64b12aa69376; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:07:55 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEnEm-0002TC-Ni for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:07:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEnEm-0002T3-81 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:07:04 +0000 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEnEl-0003CC-8J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:07:04 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.4]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091129170657.YPFJ17277.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:06:57 +0000 Received: from [81.109.251.184] (helo=desktop) by know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEnEe-0001DV-LN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:06:57 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:06:50 -0000 Message-ID: <010c01ca7116$59615290$0317aac0@desktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcpxFldjLD2Q+fFOS6S123hv3qMztQ== X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=W3tOLUehizD4qj6VhtReFuw5MKb8d+XqjIxlDsIazEA= c=1 sm=0 a=HtFxxwoJUVfl6_62CAIA:9 a=1ULwxbI08bK9-8WQXE4nlIssTroA:4 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=vGY9l9b-on8Z9djl1NYA:9 a=XAygSiyNVKAdaDdxafUA:7 a=vS-KI0m3_xNTdZYhGmzcSkS9dq8A:4 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RTTY test transmission on 501.5 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_010D_01CA7116.59639C80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_010D_01CA7116.59639C80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear LF I am running a test RTTY transmission on 501.5 (I hope!!) It transmits for abt 1 min every 10 mins. I'd be grateful for any reports. I will shut it down at 20.00z or before if necessary 73s Jim G7NKS ------=_NextPart_000_010D_01CA7116.59639C80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear LF

 

I am running a test RTTY transmission= on 501.5 (I hope!!)  It transmits for abt 1 min every 10 mins.

 

I’d be grateful for any reports.=  I will shut it down at 20.00z or before if necessary

 

73s

 

Jim G7NKS

------=_NextPart_000_010D_01CA7116.59639C80-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df05.mx.aol.com (rly-df05.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.18]) by air-df04.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDF042-5514b119a1768; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:46:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF056-5514b119a1768; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:46:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEV6K-0005bh-4B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:45:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEV6J-0005bY-OA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:45:07 +0000 Received: from web63608.mail.re1.yahoo.com ([69.147.97.78]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEV6I-0001e5-N9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:45:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 44423 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Nov 2009 21:44:59 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1259444699; bh=FXE/Xsg5xs2hzaaOyyDGXZwRsk0A1dbZHlORJtj2uk4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=B9m9PE37oR9qJ7q3i61NpF7fMsuLCNgZd1Xy2KmoI+1D7OrjBVDWzr4YJJDsDF9XhCVQ0XkaCn2ZN8dNWs3vtVnv2wMaLARRXHOqGrLW3gF7z7O/Fbuoj13EkVVhUMCKROF9b1ClhxRYz3AacZiEdQrxEJU+pDDytsiOlD1DYg0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=rANcPaK1BOETprJbRLWs6A/yzq39ox2KzHXpMEK0h49nmCSo9f3JJP+KmZotapLVE7BmLC8zlBIjDFp0b4b4XpA2RlfIMgpk/C5QFmkVX7krKR6acIzGcUaon4IJmaN/evaZCvIQTfLCLcPMesUU51ESHRUOF0amq3lFbYpTk5A=; Message-ID: <699498.44139.qm@web63608.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: sJsgLocVM1lzvrqlvVYDPanRVJ7Okz77VYtC.blX4YNNA2t.HqhMGVbDYTd0.Ej8faA.dEqSAY4eTG1vrsxoEUV8wJQHVZJUgfJtNUunUrRIC6i0q.Qbb5gRo.kG7q3_bfwK6MqmB6ClgER38lzS9YUKN_ecoabVF9ggA.l97HN2ZqXxm1KwicWuM7c4pb0iGt98S21JzieAr4McVsbZ4G3UIhK0W7twItgqCkr5thX2rr9NzIhyHIUu92h6PFgizNhhSCC10D6GiySQSxcQ6LTmTf7vu.AROMwrvPufIvosXcQh9s7clh4aulTc.cCJPbrGSe_doIXfv0V85TxkXZRsBDBR.1GOjZzuGE71VpKKfGBDb6LI4tmqTHGIaZ.DTn_DAImON2mtw7V7LQ-- Received: from [97.89.42.135] by web63608.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:44:59 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:44:59 -0800 (PST) From: Andy - KU4XR To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <4B11359E.8090001@freenet.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: How do I use Spectrum Lab as a VLF Soft Receiver ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m288.2 ; domain : yahoo.com DKIM : pass Thank you Wolf: It was right there in front of me. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. It works now. 73 to you " Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN. LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 185.29866 KHz ( QRSS-60 ) Coordinates: N: 35* 43' 54" - W: 84* 3' 16" http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr http://webpages.charter.net/ku4xr/ --- On Sat, 11/28/09, Wolfgang B=FCscher wrote: > From: Wolfgang B=FCscher > Subject: Re: LF: How do I use Spectrum Lab as a VLF Soft Receiver ? > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Saturday, November 28, 2009, 9:37 AM > Hello Andy, >=20 > Of course Spectum Lab does work as a software designed > radio with audio output. > If you use a stereo soundcard (for I/Q input), start here > (in the main menu): > Quick Settings .. Image cancelling receivers .. > SDR on stereo soundcard, 48 k sampling, downconverter, > adjustable filter. >=20 > The "SID" setting is really not intended as an audible > reciver, but as a strip chart plotter for fieldstrenghs. >=20 > Cheers, > Wolf . >=20 >=20 >=20 =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (rly-ma06.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.50]) by air-ma07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA074-8af4af758caf4; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:48:38 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA061-8af4af758caf4; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:48:28 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7HTm-00024W-EQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:47:30 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7HTl-00024N-MX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:47:29 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7HTj-0007Hs-3o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:47:29 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3514.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C11257000085 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:47:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3514.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B4CBE7000087 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:47:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.45.11]) by mwinf3514.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 3C70C7000085 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:47:21 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091108234721247.3C70C7000085@mwinf3514.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <027601ca60a2$841cd150$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:47:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0155_01CA60CD.CFB6B420" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0155_01CA60CD.CFB6B420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just a note, The power on 500 is being reported as ERP due to the problems with= antenna efficiency ... as for low power I have seen Rick ON7T decod= e signals from my station with round 250 mW feed to the Ae ...=20 G ..=20 http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/wspr-activity-from-the-uk From: PETER CLEALL=20 Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 10:36 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR In addition to what James has said. Use of the WSPR site more fully can eliminate a lot of the uncertainti= es being discussed If more stations use the WSPR website/database for reporting then more= consistency is obtained, or at least the possibility of allowing some= calculation and estimates on what is reported.=20 When reporting then you are asked to keep your tx power low and to ent= er your TX power in the set up window ,so that we all know what it is.= Also on the site there is a section where you can describe your stati= on parameters. peter G8AFN 2009/11/8 James Moritz Dear Mal, LF Group, ----- Original Message ----- From: "mal hamilton" =20 WSPR reports amongst stns indicate reception reports usually minus= dB. Most of these stations are usually PLUS dB >with me or very close= to that figure. So what does that prove. It proves the SNR is higher at the output of your receiver than it= is at whatever other stations you are talking about=20 I would say it depends on the RX antenna and not necessarily propa= gation. So how then does the signal reach the RX antenna? Radio wave propaga= tion has always to be involved somewhere!=20 A large antenna yields better results than a small loop or active= whip. Not if the small loop or whip are designed to achieve adequate SNR= at the frequency of interest.=20 When I switch from my 1/4 wave inv L for 500 khz to a smaller 40= m resonated loop for 500 the signals then do go >down to a minus db= figure. So what is all this all ABOUT ? It is probably about the different directional patterns of the verti= cal and loop antennas, resulting in different signal and noise levels= at the receiver, and therefore different values of SNR. Or maybe your= loop just doesn't work very well.=20 There is also the TX pwr to consider. Two transmitters from the sa= me location one using QRO and the other QRP will be >received at diffe= rent levels at a specified RX location. There is a lot of misrepresent= ation and misleading information by >WSPR operator This applies also to CW or any other type of signal. It is a bit ric= h for someone so shy of giving figures for his TX power to suggest oth= ers are being misleading...=20 A trace of the signal is visible long before a decode takes place,= therefore why not use QRS in the first place. Because a trace of signal is just that; a decoded WSPR signal contai= ns station ID, location, and power information, making it much more us= eful, without the operator actually having to watch a computer screen= 24 hours a day. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0155_01CA60CD.CFB6B420 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Just a note,
 
The power on 500  is being repor= ted as=20 ERP  due to the  problems with  antenna efficiency ...= as for low=20 power I have  seen Rick ON7T decode signals  from my&nb= sp;=20 station with round 250 mW feed  to the  Ae ...
 
G ..
 

Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 10:36 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR

In addition to what James has said.

Use of the WSPR site more fully can eliminate a lot of the uncert= ainties=20 being discussed


If more stations use the WSPR website/database for reporting then= more=20 consistency is obtained, or at least the possibility of allowing some= =20 calculation and estimates on what is reported. 

When reporting then you are asked to keep your tx power low and= to enter=20 your TX power in the set up window ,so that we all know what it is. Al= so on the=20 site there is a section where you can describe your station=20 parameters.


peter G8AFN



2009/11/8 James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenwor= ld.com>
Dear Mal, LF Group,<= BR>
----- Original Message -----=20 From: "mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>=20



WSPR reports= amongst stns indicate reception reports=20 usually minus dB. Most of these stations are usually PLUS dB >w= ith me or=20 very close to that figure.
So what does that=20 prove.

It proves the SNR is higher at the= output of=20 your receiver than it is at whatever other stations you are talking= about=20



I would say it= depends on the RX antenna and not=20 necessarily propagation.

So how then doe= s the signal=20 reach the RX antenna? Radio wave propagation has always to be involv= ed=20 somewhere!=20



A large antenn= a yields better results than a small loop or=20 active whip.

Not if the small loop or wh= ip are=20 designed to achieve adequate SNR at the frequency of interest.=20



When I switch= from my 1/4 wave inv L for 500 khz to a=20 smaller 40 m resonated loop for 500 the signals then do go >dow= n to a=20 minus db figure.
So what is all this all ABOUT=20 ?

It is probably about the different direc= tional=20 patterns of the vertical and loop antennas, resulting in different= signal and=20 noise levels at the receiver, and therefore different values of SNR.= Or maybe=20 your loop just doesn't work very well.=20



There is also= the TX pwr to consider. Two transmitters=20 from the same location one using QRO and the other QRP will be >= ;received=20 at different levels at a specified RX location. There is a lot of= =20 misrepresentation and misleading information by >WSPR=20 operator

This applies also to CW or any ot= her type=20 of signal. It is a bit rich for someone so shy of giving figures for= his TX=20 power to suggest others are being misleading...=20



A trace of the= signal is visible long before a decode=20 takes place, therefore why not use QRS in the first=20 place.

Because a trace of signal is just= that; a=20 decoded WSPR signal contains station ID, location, and power informa= tion,=20 making it much more useful, without the operator actually having to= watch a=20 computer screen 24 hours a day.


Cheers, Jim Moritz
73= de M0BMU=20




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Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:50:37 +0000 Received: from mta11.charter.net ([216.33.127.80]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8ufj-00042P-4i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:50:37 +0000 Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.10]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.02.04 201-2219-117-106-20090629) with ESMTP id <20091113115018.IVEP8038.mta11.charter.net@imp10> for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:50:18 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([66.189.74.84]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id 4bqJ1d0061p78xe05bqJEw; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:50:18 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ERTN1BiK-IYA:10 a=KEcb-uBA5CuvSa7dVAYA:9 a=t17MQt_G_fFOs_qMfR2lmFU06UwA:4 Message-ID: <4AFD47FA.3030201@charter.net> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:50:18 -0500 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20091112162547.07WZ7.8495963.root@mp12> <1923941843.20091113095555@mterrier.net> In-Reply-To: <1923941843.20091113095555@mterrier.net> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WD2XES WOLF 137.441 Thurs Nite Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Michel, Excellent results! Thanks very much for the complete report. John, W1TAG/WD2XES Michel F5WK wrote: > Here is my report. Virtual Audio Cable (VAC) was used for the first time to > link the SpectrumLab based SDR and WOLFGUI. It appeared to run quite > accurately. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg03.mail.aol.com (v125.8) with ESMTP id MAILINMG034-9f44af06577d9; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:17:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG016-9f44af06577d9; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:16:41 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N5MvG-00085f-Fy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:11:58 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N5MvC-00085W-76 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:11:54 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N5Mv7-0002jw-QI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:11:52 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3504.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B8F777000081 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:11:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3504.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id ACAC77000084 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:11:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.42.7]) by mwinf3504.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 092AA7000081 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:11:38 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091103171139376.092AA7000081@mwinf3504.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <542B26F06A4A4FAD892C91E3E33FA670@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <993BF7557D4B4C5F8251F19CEB166E93@IBM7FFA209F07C> In-Reply-To: <993BF7557D4B4C5F8251F19CEB166E93@IBM7FFA209F07C> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 17:11:37 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Hell Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0034_01CA5CA8.B408B0D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01CA5CA8.B408B0D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Chris=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 9:26 AM To: RSGB LF Group=20 Subject: LF: Hell Hi All, Does anybody know if the Hell software is still available and, if so,= where from, please? Thank you and 73, Chris, G4AYT. ----------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.45/2476 - Release Date: 11/0= 2/09 07:51:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01CA5CA8.B408B0D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 

From: Chris
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 9:26 AM
Subject: LF: Hell

Hi All,
Does anybody know if the Hell softwar= e is still=20 available and, if so, where from, please?
Thank you and 73,
Chris, G4AYT.


No virus found in this incoming message.
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Version: 8.5.4= 23 / Virus Database:=20 270.14.45/2476 - Release Date: 11/02/09 07:51:00


------=_NextPart_000_0034_01CA5CA8.B408B0D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db07.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDB071-ad34b1434d5ab; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:10:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB071-ad34b1434d5ab; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:10:47 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NFDVF-0000Fe-IF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:09:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NFDVF-0000FU-1C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:09:49 +0000 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NFDVE-0003cW-B8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:09:49 +0000 Received: from aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091130210937.FNVO17277.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:09:37 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.33] (really [82.22.242.219]) by aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20091130210937.LEII13254.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.2.33]> for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:09:37 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:09:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4B14348E.11442.296173D@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> In-reply-to: <4B1426ED.8000707@inext.at> References: <4B140806.10012.1E82610@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com>, <4B1426ED.8000707@inext.at> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=1ggfb5FlKZQUfF3vzm9UBYZ2uTfLsbs/8dSljwg5+mE= c=1 sm=0 a=9YlaCzn6_68A:10 a=u8CAkHEcEc7Bw_Rb0gsA:9 a=fE6fMgPWl43rs3jbYqYx8h2crJwA:4 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: DX test 136.318kHz Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Thank you for the report. Your QRSS3 signal has been 'O' here for the last two afternoons around 1700UTC. Mike ==== > hallo mike ! > your transmission xdv 10-15 db o.n. qsb > 73 oe5odl jn68rd > > Mike Dennison schrieb: > > I will be transmitting "XDV" overnight (1800 - 0900 UTC) tonight > > using QRSS60 on 136.3180kHz. DX reports are welcome. > > > > Mike. G3XDV > > ========== > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDC082-b3a4b0c1617101; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:21:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC086-b3a4b0c1617101; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:21:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCz3b-00060f-NS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:20:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCz3b-00060W-Ba for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:20:03 +0000 Received: from web63607.mail.re1.yahoo.com ([69.147.97.77]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCz3Y-0002hg-MH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:20:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 81658 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Nov 2009 17:19:52 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1259083192; bh=o8KB4z735ycCmHqMtIx5kJiZ4JYR09UrhoPEaWfkQ3o=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=1icKBoUkb7MJ4Ts6/NBrBWVyJE5liQM5igNmSkJe+uNqADFxyUt8fW31nC9V6U4To0W/Z1RJa4Gz677d8q3nOi7xslpDsUkJGdGNxHsRhOwmRhc7HqenOXMr5ClCc/4deTNyRxvM7pbjHyZHHCJROG7hr5zDU5M/oOtuFxK4NZY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=N1qYVGOE3tO6I8IbW1mqqZOANHtfNcS5cTD4lVEsM2EYouJqP+XBaUnDvBtTNiMsoE+fCdG+RE/fah9lgSF/agSe5gCJW1c0c5V4MLsuO00GzFPTkrRtk0oaQ0NdGDcTFitsGHAW+XIJAX6zNwlGfu0FlTLvZPbAIdRUoE3sg2s=; Message-ID: <770377.80919.qm@web63607.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: MzKVwskVM1nql0pdtnIQ49h5PM4mGc2WimhGhfJvpX8u.i41rcq3vqJj2sjO9oGyiaOJ7_IYXbeVM5ZqeXyxBdPizY_4T2G6NPrI3kGcNbn7Ap8Vwc2zYniSthRPEgK2HjJ7sr0.fKWHIyZACuOpiveNwAr5A676nFmd95JEa9VlAg9SA827UeXM5KbWaGUy6JOPWHbederGNIrXdeaQSl3o2AB4U_vBY7RnMH3vWTLxO2_HK6_CE91M0eYQtkUDw3_flCQYTKvnLt.b0tMSzO1x18V3GNDswe65TfwZKJqdecF0NWC1C.fqAp7GA4ydsCxqxMRQds0wNT5nHfpwmFr55cnG_Nr8rXXBMajZkh1nwq2vMjhHfFTCJVfZJCxbKQrw034Q2cDQmcwUF4mj7qMa_C8JSa5HGRn_cz3EcD8RWb1nvO5BXpZsGr4FPtw1Ki4rGgVW4hMNL5TdivvuYlV7Xw-- Received: from [98.70.117.187] by web63607.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:19:52 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:19:52 -0800 (PST) From: Andy - KU4XR To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <000e01ca6d27$45eaac40$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: SITOR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d268.2 ; domain : yahoo.com DKIM : pass Mal: MultiPSK includes the SITOR A mode. http://f6cte.free.fr/index_anglais.htm The link to the software if you don't have it already. 73 ::: Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN. LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 185.29866 KHz ( QRSS-60 ) Coordinates: N: 35* 43' 54" - W: 84* 3' 16" http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr http://webpages.charter.net/ku4xr/ --- On Tue, 11/24/09, mal hamilton wrote: > From: mal hamilton > Subject: LF: SITOR > To: "rsgb" > Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 11:57 AM >=20 >=20 > =20 > =20 >=20 >=20 > =20 > Looking for a good decode > prog. > mal/g3kev > =A0=20 >=20 =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb08.mx.aol.com (rly-mb08.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.166]) by air-mb08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB084-d1f4b0197afe9; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:19:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB083-d1f4b0197afe9; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:19:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NA66V-0007Xo-Om for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:15:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NA66R-0007XQ-Rw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:15:04 +0000 Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA66N-0001Cx-67 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:15:00 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-3.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.3]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091116180948.XFZA27507.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-3.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:09:48 +0000 Received: from [81.109.247.175] (helo=jimdesk) by know-smtpout-3.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NA61L-0007jH-By for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:09:48 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: References: <014601ca66e7$76a9f9d0$0517aac0@jimdesk> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:09:44 -0000 Message-ID: <015b01ca66e7$faca7050$0517aac0@jimdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <014601ca66e7$76a9f9d0$0517aac0@jimdesk> Thread-Index: Acpm5m3SHzpox8kKQe2PU52HmguBJQAAPlwgAAAgdNA= X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jRP15gNl8tMA:10 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=ZR30WM-CqZqrTCPgmsYA:9 a=uOcCYkGmJZB915bHgjEOrDS9uAMA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=46cmhyRfNyF4UF4l:21 a=JH6SV7DBnlkRJTfw:21 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=NP0tSAyLhSNLRJGaPPoA:7 a=KBHohTuoY6q4S_ZIbNXFXGGBJVMA:4 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: RE: thats the way to do it! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_015C_01CA66E7.FACA7050" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_015C_01CA66E7.FACA7050 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Now getting rpts on reflector too! doh _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of James Cowburn Sent: 16 November 2009 18:06 To: 'James Cowburn'; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: thats the way to do it! Dear LF At a stroke, side bands gone, 25watts found, sigs increased! I'd like to say I planned it that way but sister Serendipity was on my side! I just moved the impedance matching transformer from in the shack to the base of the coil and re-adjusted the taps on both. IC735 now happily firing 50watts out as opposed to 25 watts and it seems that the dreaded side bands are gone. Let's see if it stays that way. With best regards Jim G7NKS Dr. James Cowburn ------=_NextPart_000_015C_01CA66E7.FACA7050 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Now  getti= ng rpts on reflector too! doh

 

 

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org [mailto:owner-= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of James Cowburn
Sent: 16 November 2009= 18:06
To: 'James Cowburn'; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: RE: thats= the way to do it!

 

 

Dear LF

 

At a stroke, side bands gone, 25watts= found, sigs increased!  I’d like to say I planned it that way but sister Serendipi= ty was on my side!

 

I just moved the impedance matching tra= nsformer from in the shack to the base of the coil and re-adjusted the taps on both.   IC735 now happily firing 50watts out as opposed to 25 watt= s and it seems that the dreaded side bands are gone.  Let’s see if= it stays that way.

 

 

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim= G7NKS

 

 

Dr. James Cowburn

 

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Hello LF,
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Andy & Group
Vy nice presentation & tnx for making it available for us.
Would like to use parts for talk in local ham club, objections? (sour= ce will be mentioned, of course!).
=A0
PPT works ok, if wav-files are unzipped and placed beside it. Otherwi= se: no sound.
=A0
73
de Klaus
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--001485f039a8d7854304786e4078-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (rly-mg04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.110]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG103-a094b036a093d8; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:29:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG043-a094b036a093d8; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:29:15 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAbDL-0008G5-Cb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:28:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAbDK-0008Fw-4G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:28:14 +0000 Received: from smtprelay0006.hostedemail.com ([216.40.44.6] helo=smtprelay.hostedemail.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAbDH-0005Ua-Fx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:28:14 +0000 Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (ff-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay03.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 6A8DB15A3962 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:28:08 +0000 (UTC) X-Session-Marker: 76653872744078706C6F726E65742E636F6D X-Filterd-Recvd-Size: 28215 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (xplr-ts-v10-208-114-191-189.barrettxplore.com [208.114.191.189]) (Authenticated sender: ve8rt@xplornet.com) by omf04.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:27:59 +0000 (UTC) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <4B034CEF.2010206@telus.net> References: <961313.39040.qm@web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <4B034CEF.2010206@telus.net> Message-Id: From: Ron VE8RT Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:27:41 -0700 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-7-1034786936 Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --Apple-Mail-7-1034786936 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I've been VERY disappointed, having contacted RAC (of which I'm a member) a few months ago to get a list of those interested in permits for 600 metre stations, just to have TOTAL silence on the matter from RAC. I heard about the apparently secretive project through other than Canadian sources and could not find any information on the RAC website. There isn't much point hanging around on the list as my time and interest lie elsewhere than beacon monitoring, I may be back when someone, Canadian or otherwise, decides to release some useful information regarding AMATEUR permits for the 600m band. Ron VE8RT On 17-Nov-09, at 6:25 PM, Scott Tilley wrote: > A fine argument if VX9MRC was licensed in the amateur service. > But amateur regulations do not apply as VX9MRC is licensed in the > developmental service as posting your license publicly would allow > others to see. > > Permissible communication in the developmental service must be > clearly stated in the license terms. > > Polishing up the plank, > Scott > > jcraig@mun.ca wrote: >> >> Blimey... I've been exposed as a PIRATE! Polly, me parrot, >> (Newfoundland >> Puffin) is concerned I might be disciplined a with keel hauling or >> the >> cat-o-nine-tails! Shiver me timbers! >> >> For those who have worked VX9MRC and are losing sleep for fear of >> being asked to walk the plank by their licensing authority, please >> take comfort in >> the following: >> >> The General Radio Regulations defina a radio station as "a place >> wherein radio apparatus is located." VO1NA is duly "licensed" in >> Canada and is the radio station wherein is located the >> radiotelegraphic apparatus of VX9MRC, thanks to the kind efforts >> of the Marconi Radio Club of Newfoundland. >> >> The regulations state "No operator of an amateur station shall >> communicate >> with radio stations other than stations licensed in the amateur >> service" >> >> Therefore, any station that communicates with VX9MRC is >> communicating with a station licensed in the amateur serivce and >> does so accordance with the regulations. >> >> Alas, ye olde PIRATE who can evidently lob 10^30 big (600m) >> photons per >> second across the brine pond is but an amateur in legal matters. >> >> 73 Arrh me Hearties!!! >> Joe VO1NA >> >> On Fri, 13 Nov 2009, Andy Talbot wrote: >> >>> And who do you think would bother if you did work one ? >>> Who would even care ? >>> >>> Andy >>> www.g4jnt.com >>> >>> this email has been scanned for political correctness by the >>> nanny state >>> >>> >>> 2009/11/13 M0FMT >>> >>>> The whole setup looks decidedly dodgy to me. If they are >>>> Pirates how >>>> would it affect my license if the opportunity arose for me to >>>> work one and I >>>> did? The only place I know where I am licensed work a non >>>> Amateur station is >>>> on 5megs and that can only be a UK Mill station. >>>> >>>> It's a question of how much you value your license I suppose. >>>> >>>> 73 petefmt >>>> >>>> >>>> --- On *Fri, 13/11/09, Graham * wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Graham >>>> Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other >>>> amature >>>> stations ?? >>>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>> Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 14:53 >>>> >>>> Scott >>>> >>>> SO.... Matter and antimatter cannot coexist at close range for >>>> more than a >>>> small fraction of a second because they collide with and >>>> annihilate each >>>> other, releasing large quantities of energy in the form of gamma >>>> rays >>>> >>>> Got it now .. gamma rays are electromagnetic ..hence radio >>>> waves are >>>> produced .. which may suffer (constructive interference) or >>>> (destructive >>>> interference) resulting in large variations in amplitude at the >>>> point of >>>> observation ..... >>>> >>>> Thanks ! >>>> >>>> G .. >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> From: "Scott Tilley" >>> uk.mc281.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sthed475@telus.net> >>>>> >>>> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:29 PM >>>> To: >>> mc/compose?to=rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> >>>>> >>>> Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with >>>> other amature >>>> stations ?? >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi John >>>>> >>>>> VX is in developmental service (same idea as US stations), EI >>>>> in amateur >>>> service... Like positive and negative antimatter they don't mix. >>>>> >>>>> 73 Scott >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> John P-G wrote: >>>>>> Scott Tilley wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Graham >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All Canadian 600m stations are operating under COMMERCIAL >>>>>>> Developmental >>>> Licenses and are not able to communicate with the Amateur Service. >>>>>> >>>>>> So VX9MRC shouldn't be having regular CW QSOs with EI0CF? >>>>>> >>>>>> Still confused.... >>>>>> >>>>>> John >>>>>> GM4SLV >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --- >> > Ron VE8RT ve8rt@xplornet.com Yellowknife, NT, Canada 62 28.060N 114 20.648W Grid Square DP22tl "Who are these that fly as a cloud, and as doves to their window?" Is 60:8 --Apple-Mail-7-1034786936 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've been VERY disappointed, having contacted RAC (of which I'm a member)= a few months ago to get a list of those interested in permits for 600 met= re stations, just to have TOTAL silence on the matter from RAC. =A0I heard= about the apparently secretive project through other than Canadian source= s and could not find any information on the RAC website. =A0There isn't mu= ch point hanging around on the list as my time and interest lie elsewhere= than beacon monitoring, =A0I may be back when someone, Canadian or otherw= ise, decides to release some useful information regarding AMATEUR permits= for the 600m band.

=A0=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Ron VE8RT

On 17-Nov-09, at 6:25 PM, Scott Tilley wrote:

=A0
But amateur= regulations do not apply as VX9MRC is licensed in the developmental servi= ce as posting your license publicly would allow others to see.

Permissible commun= ication in the developmental service must be clearly stated in the license= terms.

P= olishing up the plank,
Scott=A0

jcraig@mun.ca wrote:=

Blimey...=A0 I've been exposed as a PIRATE! Polly, me parrot, (Newfoundland
<= div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margi= n-left: 0px; ">Puffin) is concerned I might be disciplined a with keel hau= ling or the
cat-o-nine-tails! Shiver me timbers!

For those who= have worked VX9MRC and are losing sleep for fear of being asked to walk= the plank by their licensing authority, please take comfort in
the following:

The General Radio Regulations defina a radio station as= "a place wherein radio apparatus is located." VO1NA is duly "licensed" in= Canada and is the radio station wherein is located the radiotelegraphic= apparatus of VX9MRC, thanks to the kind efforts of the Marconi Radio Club= of Newfoundland.

The regulations state "No operator of an amateur station shall= communicate
with radio stations other than stations= licensed in the amateur service"
<= br>
Therefore, any station that communicates with VX= 9MRC is communicating with a station licensed in the amateur serivce and= does so accordance with the regulations.

Alas, ye olde PIRATE who can evidently= lob 10^30 big (600m) photons per
second across the= brine pond is but an amateur in legal matters.

73=A0 Arrh me Hearties!!!
Joe VO1NA

On Fri, 13 No= v 2009, Andy Talbot wrote:

And who do you think would= bother if you did work one ?
Who would even care ?

Andy
www.g4jnt.com

=
this email has been scanned for political correctnes= s by the nanny state


2009/11/13 M0FMT= <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>
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=A0 The whole set= up looks decidedly dodgy to me. If they are Pirates how
did? The only place I know where I am licensed= work a non Amateur station is
on 5megs and that can= only be a UK Mill station.

It's a question of how much you value your license I= suppose.



--- On *Fri, 13/11/09,= Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.c= o.uk>* wrote:


From: Graham <<= a href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk><= /div>
Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso= with other amature
stations ??
Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 14:53

Scott
<= div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margi= n-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; ">
SO.... Matter= and antimatter cannot coexist at close range for more than a
small fraction of a second because they collide with and annihila= te each
other, releasing large quantities of energy= in the form of gamma rays

Got it=A0 n= ow .. gamma rays are electromagnetic ..hence radio waves are
produced .. which may suffer= =A0 (constructive interference) or (destructive
observation .....

Thanks=A0 !

G ..

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From: "Scott Tilley" <sthed475@telus.net<http://uk.mc281= .mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dsthed475@telus.net>=A0

Sent: Fr= iday, November 13, 2009 2:29 PM

Subject: Re: LF: Are the<= span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 new VE stations able to=A0 qso=A0 with=A0 other amature
stations ??


Hi John

VX is in developmental service (same= idea as US stations), EI in amateur
se= rvice... Like positive and negative antimatter they don't mix.

73 Scott


John P-G wrote:
=
Scott Tilley wrote:
Hi Graham

All Canadian 600m stations are opera= ting under COMMERCIAL Developmental
Licenses and are not able to communicate with the= Amateur Service.

So VX9MRC sh= ouldn't be having regular CW QSOs with EI0CF?

Still confused....

John
G= M4SLV


<= br>


=





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Ron VE8RT=A0ve8rt@xplornet.com
Yellowknife, NT,= Canada
62 28.060N =A0114 20.648W =A0Grid Square DP22tl
"Who are these that fly as a cloud, and as doves to their window?" =A0Is= 60:8

=3D --Apple-Mail-7-1034786936-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMD034-92c4b0e43591e5; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:59:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD104-92c4b0e43591e5; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:59:07 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDaAM-0002uA-NT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 08:57:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDaAM-0002u1-7H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 08:57:30 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDaAL-0007vg-EM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 08:57:30 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD7BC7B8056 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:57:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from PC_van_Rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-106.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.106]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id A229931E702 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:57:21 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:57:29 +0100 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091126085721.A229931E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_10_20=0.945,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: instability on MosFet amps Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_4350009==.ALT" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --=====================_4350009==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Wolf, LF-group, to my experience most FET's are killed by=20 over-voltage (spikes at the drain). Exceeding=20 current or power seems less an item. The voltage spikes are load dependent and thus=20 can be caused by antenna mismatching. A R-C=20 series network from drain to ground is a good remedy. I have played around with class-E PA's are they=20 are very fascinating. But although very simple to=20 build you need at least a good oscilloscope to tune them correctly. On 500kHz I reached 92% for a 100 W PA. Most of=20 the remaining 8% was dissipated in the coils,=20 rather than in the FET, so improving the coils could even raise the effici= ency. But compared to a class D PA I found the class E=20 PA rather sensitive toward load. For a class D PA the main concern about the load=20 (antenna) is that it is resistive (antenna in=20 resonance) and "more or less" 50 Ohm. My class D=20 PA ( 82% efficiency) seems to be happy with any=20 resistive load in the 40-70 Ohm range. The class=20 E PA on the other hand really needed a 50 Ohm resistive load. Regarding split filters: I tested them years ago=20 on 137kHz and found out that they work well but -=20 at least in my case - they were quite pernicious=20 for the PA efficiency that dropped from about 85% to about 75%. I didn't investigate the reason for that (as the=20 R-C networks at the drain solved the spike=20 problem). A wild guess would be that the harmonic=20 power that is reflected by a LPF (but absorbed in=20 a split filter) somehow is "recuperated" in the PA. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T At 16:25 25/11/2009, you wrote: >Hello group ! >I found that almost all amp configurations=20 >generate harmonics. In case of a homebrewed HF=20 >amp, with a push =96pull design, I had to build=20 >hi-pass filters with a resistive termination, so=20 >called split filters, for each band. Without=20 >dissipating the harmonic energy the stage will=20 >have to cope with excess voltages and thus bury the MosFets . >My last amp stage for the DI2BJ-beacon is=20 >followed by a hi-pass that opens at 750 kcs .=20 >This way the first harmonic and all the higher=20 >ones go into thermal dissipation. >A T-type adjustable low-pass is used to match and reduce harmonics furthe= r. >Have fun de wolf df2py --=====================_4350009==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Wolf, LF-group,

to my experience most FET's are killed by over-voltage (spikes at the drain). Exceeding current or power seems less an item.
The voltage spikes are load dependent and thus can be caused by antenna mismatching. A R-C series network from drain to ground is a good remedy.
I have played around with class-E PA's are they are very fascinating. But although very simple to build you need at least a good oscilloscope to tune them correctly.
On 500kHz I reached 92% for a 100 W PA. Most of the remaining 8% was dissipated in the coils, rather than in the FET, so improving the coils could even raise the efficiency.
But compared to a class D PA I found the class E PA rather sensitive toward load.
For a class D PA the main concern about the load (antenna) is that it is resistive (antenna in resonance) and "more or less" 50 Ohm. My class D PA ( 82% efficiency) seems to be happy with any resistive load in the 40-70 Ohm range. The class E PA on the other hand really needed a 50 Ohm resistive load.

Regarding split filters: I tested them years ago on 137kHz and found out that they work well but - at least in my case - they were quite pernicious for the PA efficiency that dropped from about 85% to about 75%.
I didn't investigate the reason for that (as the R-C networks at the drain solved the spike problem). A wild guess would be that the harmonic power that is reflected by a LPF (but absorbed in a split filter) somehow is "recuperated" in the PA.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T




At 16:25 25/11/2009, you wrote:
Hello group !
I found that almost all amp configurations generate harmonics. In case of a homebrewed HF amp, with a push =96pull design, I had to build hi-pass filters with a resistive termination, so called split filters, for each band. Without dissipating the harmonic energy the stage will have to cope with excess voltages and thus bury the MosFets .
My last amp stage for the DI2BJ-beacon is followed by a hi-pass that opens at 750 kcs . This way the first harmonic and all the higher ones go into thermal dissipation.
A T-type adjustable low-pass is used to match and reduce harmonics further.
Have fun            = ;         de wolf  df2py
--=====================_4350009==.ALT-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD043-b8b4af2af6c283; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:56:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD075-b8b4af2af6c283; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:56:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6008-00010v-05 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:55:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6007-00010m-Ja for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:55:35 +0000 Received: from smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com ([195.200.78.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N5zys-0002aC-RB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:54:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 4785 invoked by uid 507); 5 Nov 2009 11:55:18 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO JR) (john.rabson@numeo.fr@217.67.155.178) by smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com with SMTP; 5 Nov 2009 11:55:18 +0100 Message-ID: <200911051155250437.01D98744@smtp2.numeo.fr> In-Reply-To: <002d01ca5dff$c7ea38a0$0201a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> References: <36F0AC319F8D4DA2B15968DBEB9CDEBD@ns94d01ae4d850> <002d01ca5dff$c7ea38a0$0201a8c0@euro7g1ku6dl5q> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:55:25 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: LF F8BOJ 30dB over noise on 137705 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 At 1054z. John F5VLF *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 05/11/2009 at 11:07 Claude Berthebaud wrote: >Hello Henny and LF >Many thanks for the pic control ...now I'm in beacon >137705.hz qrss3 for the eventualy SWL good week and >Best 73 's >Claude F8boj JN16WA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: henny van elst > To: blacksheep > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 10:51 AM > Subject: LF: BOJ 04-11.jpg > > > Hi LF, > Capture BOJ, > Henny pa3cpm > best 73s > Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden >verzonden: > BOJ 04-11.jpg > > Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen >virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet >toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt >weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (rly-dc10.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.39]) by air-dc09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC093-b494af59b5e2c1; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:08:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC105-b494af59b5e2c1; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:08:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6nod-0000tw-Vk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:07:03 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6nod-0000tn-HU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:07:03 +0000 Received: from fwx.uvtc.net ([195.22.25.2] helo=uvtcmail.se) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6nob-00028a-Pa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:07:03 +0000 thread-index: AcpfxE9IMFz1C5fdS8GtMgsX6Sk0fQ== X-MEFilter-Version: 6.5.0 X-SPAM-FLAG:NO Received: from ([127.0.0.1]) with MailEnable ESMTP; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 16:06:47 +0000 Message-ID: <2F1AB4DFB90B402ABA068A546B4AEDDE@radiorummet> From: "Gus" To: , Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 17:06:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4325 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Importance: normal X-ME-Bayesian: 0.000000 X-CHK: uvtcmail.se X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: 10 mW WSPR beacon. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003D_01CA5FCC.AFE380D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_FONT_BIG, HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01CA5FCC.AFE380D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear LF group,=20 After running beacon WSPR night 6-7 November with only 10 mW ERP (125= mW) TX power on 500 kHz it gives me great surprise, that a very long= range can be achieved with extremely small power!=20 Dave AA1A got a decoding where the distance between us is 5756 km. Also a number of EU stn's reported decodes. On previous occasions, with a power of 1 W ERP is Laurence KL1X/BY3A= reported a number of decoding where the distance between us is 7284= km.=20 I would also like to thank the other reporting from the night's 10 mW= broadcasts, and note that WSPR is a fashion which is particularly sui= table for very low power!=20 73 de Gus SM6BHZ=20 www.sm6bhz.com ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01CA5FCC.AFE380D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear LF group,

After running beacon= WSPR night 6-7 November with only 10 mW ERP (125=20 mW) TX power on 500 kHz it gives me great surprise, that a very long= range can=20 be achieved with extremely small power!

Dave AA1A got a decodi= ng where the distance between us is 5756=20 km.

Also a number of EU st= n=92s reported=20 decodes.


On previous oc= casions, with=20 a power of 1 W ERP is Laurence KL1X/BY3A reported a number of decoding= where the=20 distance between us is 7284 km.

= I wou= ld also like to thank the other reporting from the night's 10 mW=20 broadcasts, and note that WSPR is a fashion which is particularly suit= able for=20 very low power!

73=20 de Gus SM6BHZ

www.sm6bhz.com

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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Andy Ok on the www.weaksignals.com (no space) not working, it goes ok from here using the clickable link I put in ....must be something at your end, but the SDR site gives the same info. Your bandwidth depends upon what sampling rate you can use on your card, and whether there is any filtering on it which will preclude higher sample rates showing the appropriate spectrum. My Delta-44 gives a nice 0-48k spectrum. Enjoy playing....WinRad is quite useful for chasing and identifying local interference as well as listening. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy - KU4XR" To: ; Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 10:02 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: How do I use Spectrum Lab as a VLF Soft Receiver ? Thanks to all for the responses so far. My current interest is to use the sound card as if it were a receiver, and software to make it work like one. I have downloaded " WINRAD " ( Win98SE version ), and will experiment with it this weekend. A note on the web address for the software; the weak signals.com link does not work, but google-ing " WINRAD " found this address that is correct. http://www.sdrham.com/ I am still interested in any and all comments, suggestions, user experiences, and so on. Thank you in advance for any replies. 73 all ::: Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN. LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 185.29866 KHz ( QRSS-60 ) Coordinates: N: 35* 43' 54" - W: 84* 3' 16" http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr http://webpages.charter.net/ku4xr/ --- On Fri, 11/27/09, Alan Melia wrote: > From: Alan Melia > Subject: LF: Re: How do I use Spectrum Lab as a VLF Soft Receiver ? > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Friday, November 27, 2009, 3:42 PM > I am not sure about this you need to > scour the help files but the SID > receiver is not meant for listening to it is to produce a > sig-strength v > time plot. You might need some fairly crafty software > connection for Spec > Lab Wolf will maybe reply he does monitor. > > As an easy alternative try WinRad by Alberto > www.weaksignals.com and just > stick a wire into the mic input and you get a full SDR > receiver. I am not > sure you get sound out even then you may be Virtual Audio > Cable, or perhaps > Alberto has a hook in the code now. The thing is you are > using the card > twice....once to pruduce the receiver and again to produce > the audio output. > I cant check at the moment I am still in the process of > loading up this PC. > > Best Wishes > Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andy - KU4XR" > To: ; > > Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 7:14 PM > Subject: LF: How do I use Spectrum Lab as a VLF Soft > Receiver ? > > > > Hello All: > > > > I have recently been trying to get a soundcard VLF > receiver > > going. I found a SAQ receiver on the web designed by > > Johan - SM6LKM. It works good I suppose never having > tried > > this before. I can hear " Radio noise " in other > words, it > > actually sounds like a receiver. When I connect > enough > > coils in series, with a variable cap to ground to make > a > > pre-selector, The noise floor will rise 20 dB when I > tune > > the Cap. and you can see the peak move across the > spectrum > > display. However, that's as far as you can go, You > can't > > choose a sound card, it automatically chooses the > windows > > default card, and I haven't found a way to use DSP > filtering > > with it, since everything is based on the sound card > alone. > > > > Now for Spectrum Lab, It has a built in " SID " > receiver, > > and the built in DSP filters work in the program. I > just can't > > get it to work !!!!! All I can get is low freq. hum, > or > > digital noise. It makes no difference with or without > an Ant. > > I've changed sound card sample rates, and FFT > settings, > > nothing works for me. > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions for me to try > ?? Thank you. > > > > 73 to all ::: > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (rly-ma05.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.49]) by air-ma09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA093-8ab4afde409385; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:56:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA055-8ab4afde409385; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:56:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9530-0006KE-NK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:55:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9530-0006K5-Bn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:55:18 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N952z-0001dW-Nh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:55:18 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.14] (unknown [192.168.1.14]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A4B13B4D8 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:55:17 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4AFDE3D4.7070807@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:55:16 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <00df01ca6488$e9244a80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <5MsXcPDG6Z$KFw8w@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk> <4AFDC7CD.5000409@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <200911132205430250.0B2CC740@smtp2.numeo.fr> In-Reply-To: <200911132205430250.0B2CC740@smtp2.numeo.fr> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: PIRATES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) John RABSON wrote: > On 13/11/2009 at 20:55 John P-G wrote: > >> ...granted these permissions on an individual basis. Not all of >> them are specifically for manual telegraphy. > > In France, I believe the rules say if you haven't passed a Morse test > you aren't allowed to use manual telegraphy. I'm alright then, I passed my Morse test while I was still at school, at Cullercoats Radio.... J GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db04.mx.aol.com (rly-db04.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.79]) by air-db03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB034-abc4af487fd329; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:33:09 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB042-abc4af487fd329; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:33:03 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6VTP-0006Hf-6h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:31:55 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6VTO-0006HW-Le for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:31:54 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6VTL-000521-Re for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:31:54 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.6] (opc1.twatt.home [192.168.1.6]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE233B5CC for ; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 20:31:51 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4AF487B6.4090504@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:31:50 +0000 From: John P-G User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <9afca2640911060845r17eb75daracad4f874c3a1c9c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9afca2640911060845r17eb75daracad4f874c3a1c9c@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: G3XBM: 500kHz ERP increased by 6dB - WSPR reports please Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Roger Lapthorn wrote: > *Please listen for me on 500kHz WSPR* and let me know if I am now stronger > than before. Roger, 1st period decoded at -21dB Have you a record (mental or otherwise) of the normal spread of s/n figures that I've recorded for you in the past? I'll leave the RX system running overnight so you can gather some data to compare your new antenna with the previous incarnation. Cheers, John GM4SLV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB061-ab34afdcea019f; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:25:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB031-ab34afdcea019f; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:24:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N93cW-0005Es-Hw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:23:52 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N93cW-0005Ej-3o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:23:52 +0000 Received: from out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.242]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N93cU-00087a-2k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:23:52 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApAFAD9d/UpOlMdA/2dsb2JhbACCIy2BaolYBo56uSCEPAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,739,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="233430709" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.148.199.64]) by out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 13 Nov 2009 21:23:40 +0000 Message-ID: <016001ca64a7$959b4f20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:23:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: Proper morse Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_015D_01CA64A7.949E7890" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_015D_01CA64A7.949E7890 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Some person from the Shetlands said he never heard PROPER MORSE from= G4DMP. I worked G4DMP using PROPER MORSE on the 500 K/cs band on the 12/05/09= at 2007 utc. Could the said person be a WSPR PIRATE ? G3KEV =20 ------=_NextPart_000_015D_01CA64A7.949E7890 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Some person from the Shetlands said= he never heard=20 PROPER MORSE from G4DMP.
I worked G4DMP using PROPER MORSE on= the 500 K/cs=20 band on the 12/05/09 at 2007 utc.
Could the said person be a WSPR= PIRATE=20 ?
G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_015D_01CA64A7.949E7890-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db01.mx.aol.com (rly-db01.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.76]) by air-db02.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDB021-aa54b0dac6c3bc; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:15:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB013-aa54b0dac6c3bc; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:15:10 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NDQ7f-0000JU-0T for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:14:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NDQ7e-0000JL-LS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:14:02 +0000 Received: from mbox2.netikka.net ([213.250.81.203]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NDQ7e-0004RU-1r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:14:02 +0000 Received: from tupu.netikka.net (tupu [172.16.83.90]) by mbox2-feedback.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13ACF408082 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:13:56 +0200 (EET) Received: from imp1.netikka.net (imp1.netikka.net [213.250.85.154]) by tupu.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17CDC4B0058 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:13:56 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imp1.netikka.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 081AF495BD9 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:13:56 +0200 (EET) Received: from 558602b6.adsl.multi.fi (558602b6.adsl.multi.fi [85.134.2.182]) by imp.netikka.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:13:56 +0200 Message-ID: <1259187236.4b0dac2404262@imp.netikka.net> Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:13:56 +0200 From: Paul-Henrik To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <200911252249180564.01447660@smtp2.numeo.fr> In-Reply-To: <200911252249180564.01447660@smtp2.numeo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 85.134.2.182 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: Re: LF: TEST OH1?? on about 137680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello John! Judging by ear here it must be Reino, OH1TN BR Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ Quoting John RABSON : > At 2140z. > > John Rabson > F5VLF > 58800 Cervon > France > JN17vg > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da06.mx.aol.com (rly-da06.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.80]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA051-a754afd1300cc; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:04:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA065-a754afd1300cc; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:04:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8r7z-0001Cs-NS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:03:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8r7z-0001Ch-7A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:03:31 +0000 Received: from mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.47]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8r7y-0003yr-Cm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:03:31 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.1]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091113080319.BODF17029.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:03:19 +0000 Received: from [81.109.247.175] (helo=jimdesk) by know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8r7n-0007Bp-Dn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:03:19 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: References: <563642.98089.qm@web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001801ca63ec$609a7f50$0900a8c0@lark> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:03:18 -0000 Message-ID: <00c201ca6437$c29f5040$0617aac0@jimdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: Acpj7ISBpyox9PCIQzOeUh4+hslkUQASy6Jw In-Reply-To: <001801ca63ec$609a7f50$0900a8c0@lark> X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=MXYsVByytIkA:10 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=pSDxxfrZAAAA:8 a=f0RPBRECAAAA:8 a=nOr1sUlreQ7vSgi6H0gA:9 a=iB24hMu0mXiAyPzkSxAA:7 a=3Ot5EkORGxHOXsbARqU9-4fG8BAA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=DXJFcEk134MsbE9z:21 a=4GDiEKwjl7EsL8Tp:21 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Or often a "it depends" With best regards Jim -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia Sent: 12 November 2009 23:02 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Graham its like our Offcomm....read it that it doesnt say they can't! Dont ask or the answer is always NO, the safest response for a Civil Serpent :-)) Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham" To: Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 10:33 PM Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Peter, I'm reading that .. but what am I reading ..is it yes or no ? G.. From: M0FMT Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:55 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Just more boring old Beacon stations claging up MF.....look on RAC web site... http://www.rac.ca/ ........ 2008-11-10 Canadian Amateurs on 600 Metres Industry Canada has accepted an RAC proposal whereby selected Canadian radio amateurs would be permitted to operate in the vicinity of 500 kHz. These amateur operations would support Canada's efforts to action a proposal on the agenda of the 2011 World Radio Conference (WRC2011) which, if adopted, would create an amateur allocation in the 600-meter band. Industry Canada have authorized RAC to recommend amateurs who would be licensed to operate in the 504 to 509 kHz band with a maximum power of 20 watts ERP and bandwidth up to 1 kHz. Stations operating in this band would be technically operating under Special Developmental Licenses although they would all be radio amateurs. Distinct call signs would be used and the licenses would be renewable annually subject to the amateur demonstrating the research he has carried out. More information will follow shortly in the pages of TCA or via subsequent bulletins. Bryan Rawlings VE3QN/VE2QNN Radio Amateurs of/du Canada, Inc. 73 petefmt --- On Thu, 12/11/09, Graham wrote: From: Graham Subject: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 21:43 Can anyone clarify the situation as to who can work who is this the same as the USA ? Tnx - G .. From the IARU web site As of 30 October 2009 Canada issued two licences in the Developmental Service in the range 504-509 kHz. a.. VE1ZZ has been assigned VX9PSO and is reported on 504.6 kHz b.. VO1NA has been assigned VX9MRC and is reported on 507.77 and 508.5 kHz Two more stations, VE3OHH and VE7BDQ, are expected to become active soon. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma03.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMA034-8c64b13a1d11e3; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 05:43:33 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA088-8c64b13a1d11e3; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 05:43:32 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NF3hy-0005oU-Cz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:42:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NF3hx-0005oL-Va for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:42:17 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s10.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NF3hw-00087u-TZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:42:17 +0000 Received: from BLU146-DS7 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s10.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:42:10 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [203.198.168.241] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: To: , Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:42:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Nov 2009 10:42:10.0713 (UTC) FILETIME=[C54E3890:01CA71A9] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Correction to url's - .. Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0037_01CA71A9.C3ECD3D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01CA71A9.C3ECD3D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Apologies - error in url...try this one for present 137Khz windows. http://kl1x.com/Screen2.html China Tianjin OM89UA on a dodgy antenna= , looking for 7J1RLL and others - actually its not working too badly. http://kl1x.com/Screen.html Wasilla Alaska BP51 IP - seeing XKO ov= ernight off and on - Northern routes/paths still not too good from thi= s stations view. Laurence VR2 / KL 1 X Hong Kong....horizontally polarized. From: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com=20 Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 1:43 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: tempting fate... Well looking at DCF39 its S5 at 1338Z with my Eprobe on the wrong side= of the apartment block screened mostly to the West - so Im guessing= things are pretty reasonable long haul East West. Ive taken the antennae down off the apartment roof but couldn't resist= shoving the eprobe off the balcony on the fishing pole as a temp solu= tion - the Loran lines are pretty bright. Laurence in BY3A today and Hong Kong tomorrow. http://kl1x.com/Screen2.jpg China on a dodgy antenna http://kl1x.com/Screen.jpg Wasilla Alaska ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01CA71A9.C3ECD3D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Apologies - error in url...try this one for= present=20 137Khz windows.
 
http://kl1x.com/Screen2.html  =20 China Tianjin OM89UA on a dodgy antenna, looking for 7J1RLL and= others -=20 actually its not working too badly.
= http://kl1x.com/Screen.html    =20 Wasilla Alaska BP51 IP - seeing XKO overnight off and on - Northern ro= utes/paths=20 still not too good from this stations view.
 
= Laurence VR2 / KL 1 X  Hong Kong.= ...horizontally=20 polarized.
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Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 1:43 PM
Subject: tempting fate...

Well looking at DCF39 its S5 at 1338Z with= my Eprobe on=20 the wrong side of the apartment block screened mostly to the West - so= Im=20 guessing things are pretty reasonable long haul East West.
 
Ive taken the antennae down off the apartmen= t=20 roof but couldn=92t resist shoving the eprobe off the balcony on= the fishing=20 pole as a temp solution - the Loran lines are pretty bright.
 
Laurence in BY3A today and Hong Kong=20 tomorrow.
= http://kl1x.com/Screen2.jpg  =20 China on a dodgy antenna
ht= tp://kl1x.com/Screen.jpg    =20 Wasilla Alaska
 
------=_NextPart_000_0037_01CA71A9.C3ECD3D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-db04.mx.aol.com (rly-db04.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.79]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDB053-ac24b007bddde; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:08:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB048-ac24b007bddde; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:08:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N9nG1-00027f-FG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:07:41 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N9nG0-00027W-UT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:07:40 +0000 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([195.4.92.90]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N9nFz-0001oX-1j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:07:40 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.18] (helo=8.mx.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.70 #1) id 1N9nFy-0005wY-CK; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:07:38 +0100 Received: from w042a.w.pppool.de ([89.58.4.42]:3542 helo=2a2d7ed321c6425) by 8.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #94) id 1N9nFx-0000r4-G9; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:07:38 +0100 From: "Beckmann, Gerhard" To: Cc: "'Peter Dodd'" References: <20091029094436.8EFF831E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <4AEA289D.504@ukonline.co.uk> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:07:35 +0100 Message-ID: <52A82D949D4E455C92DD64F39550C328@2a2d7ed321c6425> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcpY8ez//aa+wbIsSs6DCm2V43cB5AMidemgADDy4oAAABGy4A== In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: G3LDO in QRSS3 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002C_01CA6648.6BF5CDB0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01CA6648.6BF5CDB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Peter, Your QRSS3-signal is again good readable[Beckmann, Gerhard] on MF in JN59LN! 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hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:47:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 137 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0031_01CA6AA0.6CE132D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01CA6AA0.6CE132D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nw active cq 137.0 k/cs cw. 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------=_NextPart_000_0031_01CA6AA0.6CE132D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (rly-dd06.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.153]) by air-dd09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD092-b844af7da661f0; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:01:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD066-b844af7da661f0; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:01:27 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7Q72-00035o-H3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:00:36 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7Q71-00035f-PU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:00:35 +0000 Received: from smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com ([195.200.78.13]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7Q6y-0001CI-LY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:00:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 5548 invoked by uid 507); 9 Nov 2009 10:00:21 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO JR) (john.rabson@numeo.fr@217.67.155.178) by smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com with SMTP; 9 Nov 2009 10:00:21 +0100 Message-ID: <200911091000250405.1609D0BF@smtp2.numeo.fr> References: MCSID(1).941917242 X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:00:25 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Fwd: The death of Loran -again? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Received from Rob Gill : > >Possibly more likely this time? > >Questex link: >http://www.gpsworld.com/node/9087Loran > >Rob F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (rly-ma04.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.48]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMA052-8a14b083b0833e; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:10:08 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA043-8a14b083b0833e; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:10:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBvKc-0000BD-LH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:09:14 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBvKc-0000Ay-4r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:09:14 +0000 Received: from mailout1.go2.pl ([193.17.41.11]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBvKa-0002R5-Aj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:09:14 +0000 Received: from mailout1.go2.pl (unknown [10.0.0.103]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B464A5D515A for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:09:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from unknown (unknown [10.0.0.42]) by mailout1.go2.pl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:09:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from 58-178-124-188.rev.pro-internet.pl [188.124.178.58] by poczta.o2.pl with ESMTP id jpXpIp; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:09:11 +0100 Message-ID: <008a01ca6ade$1a837ff0$3ab27cbc@niurhaxf0xcqlj> From: "Marcin" To: References: <000a01ca6ac5$cfc00550$6402a8c0@e7010> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:09:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-O2-Trust: 2, 62 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UPPERCASE_25_50=0 Subject: LF: Re: DI2AG daylight reports Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Walter! In Gdansk, Poland: 1900 -26 -0.6 0.503910 0 DI2AG JN59 27 Only 559km... -- Vy 73! Marcin SQ2BXI Dear MF, many thanks for the first WSPR-reports today. 14:54 PA3FNY 504Km 15:00 DF8JR 881 " 15:06 DD7PC 225 " 15:10 PA0EGO 507 " 15:26 G3XVL 753 " 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (rly-dc04.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.33]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC034-b1b4b08f2cc9; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:14:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC047-b1b4b08f2cc9; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:14:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NC7Z1-0000Yc-Si for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:12:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NC7Z1-0000YT-96 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:12:55 +0000 Received: from smtp07.online.nl ([194.134.42.52]) by 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boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002E_01CA6B53.F5B492B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.8 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,NO_REAL_NAME,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5.3.00/0 ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01CA6B53.F5B492B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Joe, dogbones around 2:00z 73 Victor -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens jcraig@mun.ca Verzonden: zaterdag 21 november 2009 22:26 Aan: blacksheep Onderwerp: Re: LF: VX9MRC Hello Victor, Thank-you for the report of early reception. 73 Joe On Sat, 21 Nov 2009, victor13@online.nl wrote: > First traces VX9MRC at 507.77KHz 19:50 utc > > 73 > > Victor > PA3FNY > JO22NC ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01CA6B53.F5B492B0 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="mrc2.jpg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="mrc2.jpg" /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAgAAAQABAAD/4QDmRXhpZgAASUkqAAgAAAAFABIBAwABAAAAAQAAADEB AgAcAAAASgAAADIBAgAUAAAAZgAAABMCAwABAAAAAQAAAGmHBAABAAAAegAAAAAAAABBQ0Qg U3lzdGVtcyBEaWdpdGFsIEltYWdpbmcAMjAwOToxMToyMiAwOToxMTowMgAFAACQBwAEAAAA MDIyMJCSAgAEAAAAMzYwAAKgBAABAAAAnQMAAAOgBAABAAAAKgAAAAWgBAABAAAAvAAAAAAA AAACAAEAAgAEAAAAUjk4AAIABwAEAAAAMDEwMAAAAAAAAAAA/8AAEQgAKgOdAwEiAAIRAQMR Af/bAIQABwQFBgUEBwYFBgcHBwgKEQsKCQkKFQ8QDBEZFhoaGBYYGBwfKCIcHSYeGBgjLyMm KSotLS0bITE0MSs0KCwtKwELCwsPDQ8eEREeQCskK0BAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBA QEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBA/8QAqAAAAgIDAQEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAwQBAgUG 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Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01CA6B61.58F40FB0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01CA6B61.58F40FB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mal, I agree with your comments about WSPR QSOs. Also pleased to see the renewed interest/increase in activity on 136/7= kHz. Earlier you said you had 1W ERP on 136, I am interested to know how yo= u measured/calculated that? 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Hi Mal,
I agree with your comments about WSPR= =20 QSOs.
Also pleased to see the renewed inter= est/increase=20 in activity on 136/7kHz.
Earlier you said you had 1W ERP on 13= 6, I am=20 interested to know how you measured/calculated that?
Vy 73,
Chris, G4AYT.
------=_NextPart_000_0015_01CA6B61.58F40FB0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (rly-mf09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.179]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMF102-97b4afd9b4f2f5; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:46:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF091-97b4afd9b4f2f5; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:45:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N90CH-00043U-9l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:44:33 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N90CF-00043L-6h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:44:31 +0000 Received: from out1.ip02ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.238]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N90CD-0006y1-2D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:44:31 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlUFAOop/UpOlsBc/2dsb2JhbACCIDCBaolYBsgThDwE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,738,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="95370822" Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.192.92]) by out1.ip02ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 13 Nov 2009 17:44:06 +0000 Message-ID: <00df01ca6488$e9244a80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:44:11 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: PIRATES Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00DC_01CA6488.E8DA4930" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00DC_01CA6488.E8DA4930 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lots of pirates reported around the east african coast and Indian ocea= n but now Radio pirates !!!! on 500. How would one know a Pirate? their style of sending on cw or the way= they WSPR. Beware of the WSPR merchants no ID just carriers switching on/off as= far as the casual radio amateur is concerned. Instead of a simple app= roach worldwide to issue Radio Amateur licences for the traditional CW= mode on 500, appliance operator licences were issued for Broadcast mo= des ie=20 CW beacons, Data beacons, and other transmissions, which must stop at= Country Borders and must not be reported by anyone hearing such trans= missions beyond these Borders. In other words the whole 500 khz business is Chaotic, whereas the othe= r MF allocation 160 metres is orderly and sensibly regulated using in= the main CW and SSB. It would appear the appropriate license authorities do not think the= Appliance Operator has much to contribute to the advancement or resea= rch on 500. The marine service has been using the band for the past 100 years and= has exhausted all possibilities and concluded it is of no further use= , with the advancement of Satellite communications technology.=20 500 in EU seems to be a fun band for WSPR Beacons where no operator pa= rticipation is required just unattended machines belching out bits of= data and generating QRM to the few Radio amateurs trying to get by on= CW. Let us have your opinion. De G3KEV =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_00DC_01CA6488.E8DA4930 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Lots of pirates reported around the= east african=20 coast and Indian ocean but now Radio pirates !!!! on 500.
How would one know a Pirate? their st= yle of sending=20 on cw or the way they WSPR.
Beware of the WSPR merchants no ID ju= st carriers=20 switching on/off as far as the casual radio amateur is concerned. Inst= ead of a=20 simple approach worldwide to issue Radio Amateur licences for the=20 traditional CW mode on 500, appliance operator licences were= issued=20 for Broadcast modes ie 
CW beacons, Data beacons,= and other=20 transmissions, which must stop at Country Borders and must not be= reported=20 by anyone hearing such transmissions beyond these Borders.
In other words the whole 500 khz = ;business is=20 Chaotic, whereas the other MF allocation 160 metres is order= ly and=20 sensibly regulated using in the main CW and SSB.
It would appear the appropriate licen= se authorities=20 do not think the Appliance Operator has much to contribute to the= =20 advancement or research on 500.
The marine service has been using the= band for the=20 past 100 years and has exhausted all possibilities and concluded it is= of no=20 further use, with the advancement of Satellite communications technolo= gy.=20
500 in EU seems to be a fun band for= WSPR Beacons=20 where no operator participation is required just unattended machi= nes=20 belching out bits of data and generating QRM to the few Radio amateurs= trying to=20 get by on CW.
Let us have your opinion.
De G3KEV
 
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_00DC_01CA6488.E8DA4930-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc12.mx.aol.com (rly-mc12.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.96]) by air-mc01.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMC011-da94b086c8a2fa; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:41:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC121-da94b086c8a2fa; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:41:16 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBych-0003m4-7Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:40:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBycg-0003lv-SR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:40:06 +0000 Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.140]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBycg-0002f7-AU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:40:06 +0000 Authentication-Results: ams-iport-1.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmYAAA77B0uQ/uCWe2dsb2JhbACZJ4JgAQELCyQGn0CXFII9gX8E X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,264,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="54921028" Received: from ams-core-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.150]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 21 Nov 2009 22:40:00 +0000 Received: from cisco.com (mrwint.cisco.com [64.103.71.48]) by ams-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nALMe0ex021955; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:40:00 GMT Received: from Stewarts-Computer-2.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cisco.com (8.11.7p3+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id nALMdxD12149; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:39:59 GMT Message-ID: <4B086C3F.3080309@g3ysx.org.uk> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:39:59 +0000 From: Stewart Bryant User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <785212.33618.qm@web28105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <785212.33618.qm@web28105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR BEACONS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) M0FMT wrote: > I am with Mal. WSPR has no place on the UK 501 / 504 Kc/s Amateur > /_Communication_/ Band. The Norwegian Licence has got it right - CW only! > > 73 petefmt This is not what Ofcom calls it. In their recent consultation they say: "Agenda Item 1.23 - Amateur Service in parts of the band 415 – 526.5 kHz "5.19 Radio amateurs use radio for experimental purposes and to provide communications in support of emergency services in some situations." So unless we are supporting an emergency, 500KHz seems to be a band for us to conduct experiments on. - Stewart/G3YSX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA022-a704b027799144; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:14:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA058-a704b027799144; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:14:50 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAL4H-0001lP-IX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:13:49 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAL4H-0001lG-3o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:13:49 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAL4F-0006Sg-CT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:13:49 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE9267B8057 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:13:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from PC_van_Rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-106.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.106]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0775F3863 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:13:39 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:13:41 +0100 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <4B027512.30004@ukonline.co.uk> References: <1f0624b90911160805u4435bd18ue805924594d8b997@mail.gmail.com> <20091117081718.BDD6EF3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> <1f0624b90911170146i3b3201abh55b54fd75e56fa50@mail.gmail.com> <4B027512.30004@ukonline.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091117101339.C0775F3863@smtps02.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz VX9MRC & WE2XGR/6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Peter, likewise, I saw on Joe's website that you had a QRSS3 QSO with him earlier some days ago. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T At 11:04 17/11/2009, you wrote: >Congratulations Rik > >Peter, G3LDO > > Rik, > > > > Well done. > > > > I should be in a position to attempt the same as I saw solid QRS > > signals from Joe. > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > 2009/11/17 Rik Strobbe > > > > > > Gary, All, > > > > yesterday I could copy VX9MRC in QRSS3 with a surprising strong > > signal as early as 18 UTC, when I launched Argo. > > Throughout the evening the signal was strong and with little QSB > > from 19-22UTC, after that the signal became weaker with much more QSB. > > Probably because I had a sked with Joe at 22:40 UTC ;-) . > > But despite all we managed to complete the QSO with both way M > > report (would have been a solid O earlier the evening). > > A first ON-VE QSO on 500kHz and with +/- 4075km a new DX record for me > > Joe transmitted on 507.770 and I on 501.190. > > Between 19 and 22 UTC the signal was audible most of the time and > > would have been CW copy if it were not squeezed between the NDB > > "Z" carrier at 507.980 (S9+ here) the SM6BHZ CW/SSB test > > transmissions (up to S9) and a local birdie on 507.600. > > > > For the QSO I was running 300W into my 11m high / 25m long lazy-L > > antenna, estimated ERP about 1.5 Watt (at best, if the greenery > > does not absorb too much) > > > > The night from Sunday - Monday I left Argo running, VX9MRC > > produced a good signal all through the night and faded out at > > 07UTC. This would mean that there is a potential transatlantic > > path on 500kHz for 13h a day !!! > > > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > > > At 17:05 16/11/2009, you wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > > Good signals from both stations last night. > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo. > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-md05.mx.aol.com (rly-md05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.143]) by air-md09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMD093-9074b0c11491a7; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:01:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD057-9074b0c11491a7; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:01:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NCyiX-0005rX-7b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:58:17 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NCyiU-0005rO-OP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:58:14 +0000 Received: from out1.ip02ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.238]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NCyiS-0003XS-Cq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:58:14 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAPieC0tcGuD//2dsb2JhbACCJSuGS4RyBsgMhDkE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,280,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="125161074" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.26.224.255]) by out1.ip02ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 24 Nov 2009 16:57:59 +0000 Message-ID: <000e01ca6d27$45eaac40$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:57:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: SITOR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA6D27.45997F00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA6D27.45997F00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Looking for a good decode prog. mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA6D27.45997F00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Looking for a good decode prog.
mal/g3kev
 
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA6D27.45997F00-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (rly-mg04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.110]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG092-a0b4af4ab5a374; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:04:17 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG045-a0b4af4ab5a374; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:03:56 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N6Xpj-0007F5-0N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:03:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N6Xpi-0007Ev-FX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:03:06 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6Xpg-0005rQ-Ft for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:03:06 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 06 Nov 2009 23:02:58 -0000 Received: from p5DD343BB.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO Clemens04) [93.211.67.187] by mail.gmx.net (mp011) with SMTP; 07 Nov 2009 00:02:58 +0100 X-Authenticated: #17214767 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19Is9JJ6R5I43dApldXTltUaFwYhZponTmLYViRS4 LzX3XcdAU4DI6C Message-ID: <013601ca5f35$48450a30$0201a8c0@Clemens04> From: "Clemens Paul" To: References: <9afca2640911061357g15160968m9f249ed8aaeb6184@mail.gmail.com> <011501ca5f34$e615b1c0$0201a8c0@Clemens04> Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 00:02:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.53,0.53 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: SM6BHZ on 500kHz WSPR tonight? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0132_01CA5F3D.A7F2A020" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0132_01CA5F3D.A7F2A020 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just a second after my last mail his tx has stopped.:-) 73 Clemens DL4RAJ ----- Original Message ----- From: Clemens Paul To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 12:00 AM Subject: LF: Re: SM6BHZ on 500kHz WSPR tonight? Gus is on air,very strong as usual, but running 100%TX ! 73 Clemens DL4RAJ ----- Original Message ----- From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 10:57 PM Subject: LF: SM6BHZ on 500kHz WSPR tonight? Anyone know if Gus is planning to be on 500kHz WSPR tonight? I'm hoping that he will (at last) decode me if he does appear. BTW, two new reporters this evening PA0AM and G4CAO - thanks to both. 73s Roger G3XBM -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.52/2484 - Release Date: 11/06/09 07:38:00 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.52/2484 - Release Date: 11/06/09 07:38:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0132_01CA5F3D.A7F2A020 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Just a second after my last mail = ;his tx has=20 stopped.:-)
 
73
Clemens
DL4RAJ
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 07,= 2009 12:00=20 AM
Subject: LF: Re: SM6BHZ on 50= 0kHz WSPR=20 tonight?

Gus is on air,very strong as usual,=  but=20 running 100%TX !
 
73
Clemens
DL4RAJ
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 06,= 2009 10:57=20 PM
Subject: LF: SM6BHZ on 500k= Hz WSPR=20 tonight?

Anyone know if Gus is planning to be on 500kHz WSPR= tonight?=20 I'm hoping that he will (at last) decode me if he does appear.
BTW,=20 two new reporters this evening PA0AM and G4CAO - thanks to=20 both.

73s
Roger G3XBM
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http://ww= w.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM  =20  GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088


No virus found in this incoming message.
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------=_NextPart_000_0132_01CA5F3D.A7F2A020-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-df09.mx.aol.com (rly-df09.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.22]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF074-5794b07f0de6; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:53:57 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF096-5794b07f0de6; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:53:36 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBqOP-0005S4-1q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:52:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBqOO-0005Rv-KU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:52:48 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f211.google.com ([209.85.220.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBqOM-0008FJ-Q6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:52:48 +0000 Received: by fxm3 with SMTP id 3so4651971fxm.4 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:52:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=7V/3FYpV91pXYrqerPZGzHGZl/L1LRZ3+iQSCqBa+RU=; b=rxc8spfQSkeUlnb2hXwj3WK6/5m5lA2HDs/VC1IGr+LNFyVvXRJJKkzHt7AhcmlnCX HyZZW4P/zAP6LCDSdwXSfbNEftaH65jseqX08i06SVZ4jIo1HXf8HMrsR3KAhEGO8Un+ JMupxEldigji5kUPXTAxbwrkqwxBGYotk6sFk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Y5ZwAGyA/FyURfw1zQOIn718hl/kGMp0gE03Wejdbs1/P0mDl1ER2xCYfwBrQ4CjGN UlQO41+5b5k7MU4kZxAFyQxzYOhAOWCivfdokwL9KuoIEXNdh/eR5pKHnnkf3nzjNKyg Hcht5rmaVG8q/bZrhhWGyxex+I1bpkR5Wdhh8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.163.205 with SMTP id q13mr270709hbd.132.1258811560778; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:52:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4B07ABA4.4060102@online.fr> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:52:40 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR : QSO or not QSO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d305.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) CanI suggest you read thoroughly the documentation on how the mode works before making claims about the database.and validity. The database can only be updated by stations decoding and reportoing, and if each QSO partner has a reciprocal report in the database for near-adjacent time intervals , then they MUST have been in contact with eachother and cannot be classed as anything bu a valid QSO. Its impossible to have achieved this in any other way. Please read all the documentation first. Andy www.g4jnt.com This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health and safety police 2009/11/21 Wolf Ostwald : > Hello group ! > > > > I am not an expert with WSPR at all. But I followed the discussion regar= ding > false detection of calls thru the database. > > To my understanding the WSPR operator has NO way to really find out whet= her > the computer came to the right conclusion about the calls received, or > whether it just judged by means of plausibility. We humans have no sense= for > phaseshift, that means we have to believe the machine. > > I think that the database in the background is like a walking stick for= the > blind. > > Of course it=92s a new and exciting technology, but I doubt that it is= on one > and the same level with a regular exchange and therefore should not be > considered equally verifying a valid contact. > > My two pence worth=A0=A0 de wolf=A0 df2py > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rly-me03.mx.aol.com (rly-me03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.36]) by air-me09.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINME091-9a74b13ca74248; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:37:23 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME033-9a74b13ca74248; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:36:53 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NF6Pf-0006tV-42 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:35:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NF6Pe-0006tM-Fr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:35:34 +0000 Received: from smtp23.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NF6Pc-0000oP-Tc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:35:34 +0000 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2313.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C4FBF7000088 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:35:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from F8BOJSQUSV2QH5 (231.154.87-79.rev.gaoland.net [79.87.154.231]) by msfrf2313.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 5146B7000085 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:35:22 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20091130133522332.5146B7000085@msfrf2313.sfr.fr Message-ID: <002d01ca71c1$d3d7c300$0201a8c0@F8BOJSQUSV2QH5> From: "claude berthebaud" To: References: <3FCC9C19DE674B15A385181E7EFC37C1@Black> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:34:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091130-0, 30/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST=0.766,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Grabber improvements( lood applause) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002A_01CA71CA.351BD770" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01CA71CA.351BD770 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Markus Really good your grabber Markus thank you for working for us and the pleasure of a QSO on 137 kHz Claude F8boj JN16WA ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Markus Vester=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 12:19 PM Subject: LF: Grabber improvements Dear LF Group, my LF colour-DF grabber has recently become five years old, and I fe= lt it could do with a little refurbishment. It now updates more freque= ntly, the fullband window scrolls slightly faster and shows a wider QR= SS strip. I hope you may find this useful. The URL is still the same http://freenet-homepage.de/df6nm/Grabber.htm , and there is a mirror at http://www.alice-dsl.net/df6nm/grabber/Grabber.htm . 73 de Markus, DF6NM ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01CA71CA.351BD770 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Markus
Really good your grabber Markus
thank you for=20 working for us and the pleasure of a QSO on 137 kHz
Claude F8boj JN16WA
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Sent: Monday, November 30, 20= 09 12:19=20 PM
Subject: LF: Grabber improvem= ents

Dear LF Group,
 
my LF colour-DF grabber has re= cently=20 become five years old, and I felt it could do with a=20 little refurbishment. It now updates more frequently,= the=20 fullband window scrolls slightly faster and shows a wider QRSS= =20 strip. = I hope you=  may find this=20 useful.
 
The URL is still the same
and there is a mirror at
 
73 de Markus, DF6NM
 
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