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Hello LF

501.4kHz, 20091030 2100UTC:

Just receiving SM6BGP in JO67IK. Seems to be in becaon mode CW + QRSS.

Good signal on 1 x 1 metre square loop with homemade 2 x 2N5109 loop ampli=
fier.


New callsign for me on this band, good luck with the operation.


Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
Vaasa / KP03SD



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Hi Paul-Henrik
Thanks for capture Paul-Henrik
--
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI


Marcin, LF

Second CQ, slightly worse S/N this time. See screenshot

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
Vaasa / KP03SD





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Hello Warren, Lubos, LF,
Capture at 0.30.

73 Andrey


> Hello Warren, LF!
> I saw part of your callsign only.
> 
> Lubos, OK2BVG 

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Roger Lapthorn wrote:
> Just seen Rik's decode and now this!!!!!
>
>  2009-10-17 19:14      G3XBM       0.503936    -26     0       JO02dg  
>  0.001     GM4SLV      IP90gg      896     354 
>
>
> This is staggering!!!
>
>

Hi Roger et al

Pleased to detect you last night. Good propagation to the US as well 
apparently. W17XSH heard for long periods.

My first try with WSPR.

73

Richard
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Nicolas,
If there is a possibility, too try. Propagation good, for
certain and your signal here will be visible.

73 Andrey



> Hello Henny and Andrey.
> Henny congratulations, what's your power out and kind of antenna on  2200m ?
> 
> 
> 
> F4DTL  Nicolas JN18FP
> 
> RX : Icom IC7400
> Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010
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> _http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/) 
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Dear Pete, Paul-Henrik,

M0FMT wrote:
....> Well I can only conclude it is ADSL because it is just raising the 
noise floor it is very subtle not really identifiable like say TV LTB, it's 
a mush...>

I have problems with ADSL on 500kHz at my QTH - it sounds like "white noise" 
with no audible distinctive features I can detect. The noise can be about 
10 - 20dB over the band noise here over a fairly wide bandwidth in the MF 
range. It does not seem to be a problem at 136k, perhaps because this is in 
the guard band between upstream and downstream ADSL signals. It is easy to 
tell if you are experiencing noise from your own ADSL connection - 
disconnect the incoming phone line (probably just unplugging the modem from 
the phone socket will be enough) and there will be a reduction in noise 
level. Unfortunately, there also seems to be a significant level of similar 
noise here from other sources, probably my neighbors' ADSL via the overhead 
phone lines.

I have had some success with a noise-cancelling arrangement here, where the 
ADSL noise is sampled using a current transformer made by passing the 
incoming phone line through a ferrite core, and summed with the signal from 
loop antennas via a variable phase-shifting and gain-adjusting network, 
which is adjusted for a null in the noise. Also, moving the loop around the 
QTH shows some positions are better than others. Actually, life is a bit 
more complicated at this particular QTH, since there also seems to be 
wide-band noise originating as very low-level sidebands from the local 
broadcast stations. This requires a second noise-cancelling network to null 
noise from that direction. Also, it was necessary to insert a relay in 
series with the loading coil to disconnect the TX antenna on receive, 
otherwise this coupled more noise into the receiving antennas. But when it 
is all adjusted properly, the overall noise level can be reduced in 
favourable directions by about 20dB, which is worth doing.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Chris

See links below...audio amps used on LF, MF. These Hafler amps were selected 
because they are rated to 300 kHz right out of the box. Probably won't find 
similar performance in very many amps. I only use the Haflers for modes 
requiring linear amplification - otherwise I run a class D setup.

http://www.w1vd.com/page21.html

http://www.w1vd.com/page23.html

http://www.w1vd.com/9505MF.html

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
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  Thanks for your comments Mal, I did wonder if such an approach was wise. 
Let's see what others have to say on the matter. I also have my suspicions 
about FETs in class D and the level of crud that could result.
  Thanks again.
  Chris, G4AYT.
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    Chris
    Do  not use audio amps for RF. Build a class D or E amp and operate 
trouble free. Audio amps were tried by some in the early days but never 
worked properly.
    Read the horror stories of yesteryears about using audio amps for RF 
applications. Buckets of burnt out FETS.
    73 De Mal/g3kev

      ----- Original Message ----- 
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      Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 2:13 PM
      Subject: LF: AF Amps at 136


      Hi All,
      Just started constructing TX for 136kHz, noticed Maplin do a Velleman 
audio PA kit that is rated at 200W (100W RMS into 4R). OK there's no mains 
transformer or heat sink, but reckon it's good value at £14.99. Point is the 
specs also say the minus 3db frequency response is 3Hz / 200kHz.
      The RSGB books 'LF Today' refer to using audio amps as PAs at 136 with 
'a few modifications'. Does anybody know where these modifications are 
documented? I guess there's nothing major, reduce a few cap values? Remove 
Zobel Network etc.?? If anyone has experience with this approach I would 
appreciate some hints. Thanks.
      Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable.


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>See links below...audio=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for your comments Mal, I did=
 wonder if=20
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  also have my suspicions about FETs in class D and the level of crud=
 that=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks again.</FONT></DIV>
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rg">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 18,=
 2009 2:49=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: AF Amps at=
 136</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chris </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Do&nbsp; not use audio amps for=
 RF. Build a=20
    class D or E amp and operate trouble free. Audio amps were tried=
 by some in=20
    the early days but never worked properly. </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Read the horror stories of yester=
years about=20
    using audio amps for RF applications. Buckets of burnt out=20
FETS.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 De Mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi All,</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just started constructing TX fo=
r 136kHz,=20
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 (100W RMS=20
      into 4R). OK there's no mains transformer or heat sink, but reck=
on it's=20
      good value at =A314.99. Point is the specs also say the minus=20
      3db&nbsp;frequency response is 3Hz&nbsp;/ 200kHz.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The RSGB books 'LF Today' refer=
 to using=20
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y know=20
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g major,=20
      reduce a few cap values? Remove Zobel Network etc.?? If anyone=
 has=20
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I can copy Russian stns during daytime as far away as UA9 at times on 160 m 
which is similar to 600m also the MOSCOW stations can copy me on 600m during 
late afternoon day light on CW. Nothing new about these conditions. This is 
old hat to experenced MF operators.
I have also been copied on 137 khz during daylight hours in the USA ie early 
evening. using  CW.
De G3KEV

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> Over the past days I monitored the G4JNT WSPR beacon 24/24.
> During daytime I have a weak but consistent copy of Andy's signal,
> average -24dB with ups and down of some dB.
> During nighttime the signal is -10dB on average, with the usual deep
> QSB (peaking -1dB, dips down to -20dB).
> But the most interesting observation is that in the afternoon the
> first peaks (from -24dB up to -8dB) occur as early as 15:45 UTC.
> This is almost 1 hour before sunset (16:37 UTC) and almost 1.5 hours
> before the D-layer (at mid point) goes into darkness.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
>


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hi Ossy and LF
the signal is still very strong at 10:32 you ... 
Good weekend and thank you  good qso ... 
pleasure
Claude F8boj JN16WA



> hallo claude many thanks fer nice qso es  bic here
> your signal is very strong comming up 25 db over nois !
> 73 and cuagn de ossy
> 
> Claude Berthebaud schrieb:
>> HI Oswald and LF
>> good morning wald..
>> very good copy trong signal in 137 khz
>> many thanks for the qso and gud week and
>> Claude F8boj JN16WA
>>
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> 
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Hello Nicolas
just moved on your frequency now. Condx are very strange - up and
down. Sometimes you are "O"! At the beginning I could hardly see you.
On essay une autre fois. 73 de Toni

2009/10/24, F4DTL@aol.com <F4DTL@aol.com>:
> Hello Toni many thanx for yur call but i have difficults to receive you
> this evening,strong QRM by a broadcast station,i dont know why,maybe the
> Luxemburg effect.Very strange !!!
>
> I hope a better contact with you a next time.
>
> See you later Toni.
>
> F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP
>


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Try QSO mode. Beacons only generate QRM for QSO operators.
g3kev

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:18 PM
  Subject: LF: QRSS message format?


  Good folks,

  Some advice please. I am about to organise some keyer ICs for beacon=
ing in QRSS on 500kHz and 136kHz. Is there a standard message format=
 used for QRSS beaconing?=20

  I was proposing to use G3XBM JO02DG or just G3XBM . Is this OK?

  73s
  Roger G3XBM



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Try QSO mode. Beacons only generate=
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Hello Henny, LF!
I just see your QRSS10 signal on 137.710.

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On 02/10/2009 at 18:45 mal hamilton wrote:

>The colour scheme seems sensible but in the UK I have never seen RED and=
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>WHITE masts. They are GREY regardless of height ie Rugby and Droitwich an=
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>others. The old 300 ft radar masts on the South coast were just plain woo=
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>de mal/g3kev

Most of those I have seen in France are red and white.

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Hello Claude
very strong this morning. 15uV, Q5 at 100Hz BW. Thank you for the this
first QSO. Jeff was also audible with 10uV and also Q5.
I was using 1KW into an Inverted L, 55m long, only 12m high. RX Icom
IC756 ProIII
73 de Toni, HB9ASB

2009/10/11, Claude Berthebaud <f8boj@club-internet.fr>:
> Hi Lubos and LF group
> Many thanks for the report .
> i am in qso with HB9ASB hello toni ur "O"+
> good sunday for all
> Claude F8boj
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Lubos OK2BVG
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>   Subject: LF: F8BOJ
>
>
>   There is the next good signal on 137.740kHz >> F8BOJ.
>
>   Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
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The USA listing is incorrect.
The WD2XSH stations operate from 495-505 kHz, cw and narrow data (PSK WSPR)
up to 20W ERP
The WE2XGR stations operate from 505-515 kHz cw, data and ssb up to 200 W
ERP.
Other stations generally operate 505-510kHz at 20W ERP.
-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
               WD2XGJ
               WD2XSH/23
               WE2XEB/2
               WE2XGR/1





On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 5:29 AM, John RABSON <john.rabson@numeo.fr> wrote:

>  The following table was published in "500kHz and Cave Radio", CREGJ issue
> 70, March 2008, p9.
>
> Please advise of any errors.
>
> 73,
> F5VLF/G3PAI
>
>
> Country
>
> kHz
>
> E(I)RP
>
> USA
>
> 505-514
>
> Up to 1200W*
>
> UK
>
> 501-504
>
> 1W
>
> Germany
>
> 440, 505-505.2
>
> 9W
>
> Belgium
>
> 501-504
>
> 5W
>
> Sweden
>
> 505-505.2
>
> 1W
>
> Czech Rep
>
> 505-505.2
>
> 1W
>
> * transmitter output power
>
>
>

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The USA listing is incorrect.<br>The WD2XSH stations operate from 495-505=
 kHz, cw and narrow data (PSK WSPR) up to 20W ERP<br>The WE2XGR stations=
 operate from 505-515 kHz cw, data and ssb up to 200 W ERP.<br>Other stati=
ons generally operate 505-510kHz at 20W ERP.<br>
-- <br>73 Warren K2ORS<br> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WD2XGJ <br> =A0=
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WD2XSH/23<br> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0W=
E2XEB/2<br> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WE2XGR/1<br><br> <br><br><br><b=
r><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 5:29 AM, John RABSON=
 <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:john.rabson@numeo.fr">john.rabson=
@numeo.fr</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">



<div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff" text=3D"#000000">
<div>The following table was published in &quot;500kHz and Cave Radio&quot=
;,=20
CREGJ=A0issue 70, March 2008, p9.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Please advise of any errors.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>73,</div>
<div>F5VLF/G3PAI<br>=A0</div>
<table width=3D"332" border=3D"1" cellpadding=3D"6" cellspacing=3D"0">
  <colgroup>
  <col width=3D"97">
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  <col width=3D"112">
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  <tr valign=3D"top">
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      <p lang=3D"en-GB"><font color=3D"#000000"><font style=3D"font-size:=
 9pt;" size=3D"2">kHz</font></font></p></td>
    <td width=3D"112">
      <p lang=3D"en-GB"><font color=3D"#000000"><font style=3D"font-size:=
 9pt;" size=3D"2">E(I)RP</font></font></p></td></tr>
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    <td width=3D"97">
      <p align=3D"left" lang=3D"en-GB"><font color=3D"#000000"><font style=
=3D"font-size: 9pt;" size=3D"2">USA</font></font></p></td>
    <td width=3D"85">
      <p align=3D"left" lang=3D"en-GB"><font color=3D"#000000"><font style=
=3D"font-size: 9pt;" size=3D"2">505-514</font></font></p></td>
    <td width=3D"112">
      <p align=3D"left" lang=3D"en-GB"><font color=3D"#000000"><font style=
=3D"font-size: 9pt;" size=3D"2">Up to 1200W*</font></font></p></td></tr>
  <tr valign=3D"top">
    <td width=3D"97">
      <p align=3D"left" lang=3D"en-GB"><font color=3D"#000000"><font style=
=3D"font-size: 9pt;" size=3D"2">UK</font></font></p></td>
    <td width=3D"85">
      <p lang=3D"en-GB"><font color=3D"#000000"><font style=3D"font-size:=
 9pt;" size=3D"2">501-504</font></font></p></td>
    <td width=3D"112">
      <p lang=3D"en-GB"><font color=3D"#000000"><font style=3D"font-size:=
 9pt;" size=3D"2">1W</font></font></p></td></tr>
  <tr valign=3D"top">
    <td width=3D"97">
      <p align=3D"left" lang=3D"en-GB"><font color=3D"#000000"><font style=
=3D"font-size: 9pt;" size=3D"2">Germany</font></font></p></td>
    <td width=3D"85">
      <p lang=3D"en-GB"><font color=3D"#000000"><font style=3D"font-size:=
 9pt;" size=3D"2">440,=20
      </font></font><font size=3D"2">505-505.2</font></p></td>
    <td width=3D"112">
      <p lang=3D"en-GB"><font color=3D"#000000"><font style=3D"font-size:=
 9pt;" size=3D"2">9W</font></font></p></td></tr>
  <tr valign=3D"top">
    <td width=3D"97">
      <p align=3D"left" lang=3D"en-GB"><font color=3D"#000000"><font style=
=3D"font-size: 9pt;" size=3D"2">Belgium</font></font></p></td>
    <td width=3D"85">
      <p lang=3D"en-GB"><font color=3D"#000000"><font style=3D"font-size:=
 9pt;" size=3D"2">501-504</font></font></p></td>
    <td width=3D"112">
      <p lang=3D"en-GB"><font color=3D"#000000"><font style=3D"font-size:=
 9pt;" size=3D"2">5W</font></font></p></td></tr>
  <tr valign=3D"top">
    <td width=3D"97">
      <p align=3D"left" lang=3D"en-GB"><font color=3D"#000000"><font style=
=3D"font-size: 9pt;" size=3D"2">Sweden</font></font></p></td>
    <td width=3D"85">
      <p lang=3D"en-GB"><font color=3D"#000000"><font style=3D"font-size:=
 9pt;" size=3D"2">505-505.2</font></font></p></td>
    <td width=3D"112">
      <p lang=3D"en-GB"><font color=3D"#000000"><font style=3D"font-size:=
 9pt;" size=3D"2">1W</font></font></p></td></tr>
  <tr valign=3D"top">
    <td width=3D"97">
      <p align=3D"left" lang=3D"en-GB"><font color=3D"#000000"><font style=
=3D"font-size: 9pt;" size=3D"2">Czech Rep</font></font></p></td>
    <td width=3D"85">
      <p lang=3D"en-GB"><font color=3D"#000000"><font style=3D"font-size:=
 9pt;" size=3D"2">505-505.2</font></font></p></td>
    <td width=3D"112">
      <p lang=3D"en-GB"><font color=3D"#000000"><font style=3D"font-size:=
 9pt;" size=3D"2">1W</font></font></p></td></tr></tbody></table>=20
<p style=3D"margin-bottom: 0cm;">* transmitter output power</p>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom: 0cm;">=A0</p></div>

</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br><br>

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Henny,

> Hello Andrey,
> the antenne is a sloper,only 14 meter,and the power 200watt,

Surprisingly! 14 metres are a height of a mast or length of a wire?

so tnx for the 
> grabber again,and all the best.
> henny pa3cpm
> best 73s.

The grabber is switched on. But till 21.00z there will be QRM from broadcasting station.

73 Andrey


> 
>> Hi Henny, LF!
>> Henny, in the morning I have been pleasantly surprised, having seen your 
>> signal.
>> Last night received also F8BOJ and UA9CS.
>> The next night the grabber too will work. Further till Monday it is OFF.
>> Tomorrow I leave in KO86NP. The receiver there will be included every
>> evening from 21.00. I hope, the air there will be purer, than in Moscow.
>> I will inform results SWL when I will return, on Sunday or Monday.
>> Excuse me for bad English:)
>>
>> 73 Andrey
>>
>>
>>> Hi Andrey,LF,
>>> TNX for the grabber,
>>> antenne sloper,200 watt 2150km
>>> Henny pa3cpm
>>> best 73s
>>
>>
>>
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Roger Lapthorn wrote:
>  2009-10-17 16:04  G3XBM  0.503920  -25  0  JO02dg  0.001  G0KTN  IO81ti
>  210  242
> 210kms - brilliant!!! Thanks G0KTN.
> 
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM
> 

Gotcha!

19:14 G3XBM 0.503936 -26 0 JO02dg 0.001 GM4SLV IP90gg 896

Only 896km!

Well done Roger!

John
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hallo lf
last night was testing my new antenna thanks for the reports
qrss3 was closed so i try on the other window ,ok my osci is not stabil 
but for testing my antenna it was ok
so special thanks all  LFfriends for running grabbers its a good help 
for newcomers to build a good antenna .
will try again to make a good signal stabil ore not .LW is a lovely way 
to be a HAM !
ps congrates to andrey ,read my call !


Andrey rn3agc schrieb:
> Henny, John, Jean-Pierre,
> Possibly, it OE5ODL...
> OE5ODL at 00.35 (my capture, 3s-window): 
> http://rn3agc.msk.ru/136-3/0910270034-oe5odl-3.jpg
> Signal in 3s (my capture): 
> http://rn3agc.msk.ru/filez/091027-signal-rn3agc.jpg
> On capture it is possible to read a callsign (capture from Henny): 
> http://rn3agc.msk.ru/filez/091027-signal-pa3cpm.jpg
>
> 73 Andrey
>
>
>> Hello J-P,John,Andrey,
>> also here the big signal,
>> best 73s
>> henny pa3cpm
>> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden 
>> verzonden:
>> strange big signal 27-10.jpg
>>
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>
>
>


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Dear all,

just heard the end of a CW QSO between EI0CF (559) and G3XIZ (549)
around 502,1 kHz at 21.48 UTC. Finbar had to go to bed immediately.

Hope the signals will improve in the following months.

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB


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Tu for qso,claude,
antenne sloper 14meter,power 200watt,
best 73s
henny pa3cpm.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Claude Berthebaud 
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  Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 12:44 PM
  Subject: LF: qso With Henny...PA3CPM


  Hi Henny LF
  Many thanks for the qso Henny ur "MMM"
  qrn to day in may qth..good week end..
  73 's 
  Claude F8boj JN16WA



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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Tu for qso,claude,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>antenne sloper 14meter,power 200watt,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>henny pa3cpm.</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=f8boj@club-internet.fr href="mailto:f8boj@club-internet.fr">Claude 
  Berthebaud</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org     href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A> 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, October 10, 2009 12:44 
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Henny...PA3CPM</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Henny LF</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Many thanks for the qso Henny ur 
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>qrn to day in may qth..good week 
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73 's </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Claude F8boj JN16WA</FONT></DIV>
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At 1804z.  Is it PA3CPM?

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I have a 1936 edition of Electrical Engineers Handbook by Pender - McIlwain 
which show a diagram of a 1030 foot antenna in Budapest used on 545 kc.  So far 
I have found no history on this antenna.  Anyone have any info on this station 
and antenna's history?

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Let us hope you manage to hear my signal too later in the evening Clemens.

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/10/25 Clemens Paul <cpaul@gmx.net>

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Henny,

   Thank you for the capture!

-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1

2009/10/2 henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>:
> Hi Warren,lf
> capture XGJ,
> Henny pa3cpm
> 73s
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden
> verzonden:
> XGJ 02-10.jpg


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Hi,
if You get one, you have to pay 130.- Eur / year
Therefore  I am not on air any more.=20
On the other Hand - beaconing is boring
DK1KQ ex DI2KA

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G'day Gary,

Sorry - still can't connect.   Perhaps someone else should try.

Sorry to all for using the 'B' word - I of course meant MEPT....

A bit of research makes me think there are no 24/7 QRSS30 or slower ME=
PTs operating on 500kc in the UK/EU - or at least none that I can find=
.

My intent was to leave ARGO going overnight here (local time) each day=
(sic) for a period of time to see if, by some chance, I could see anyt=
hing this far away.

Yours grabber is 24/7, but unfortunately for some inexplicable reason=
 I cannot see it currently.     In any case, I would still need a regu=
lar MEPT with long carrier bursts, and that appears not to be the case=
.

Thanks for the help and info.

73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Gary - G4WGT=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 12:55 AM
  Subject: Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers....


  Hi Steve,


  Although I have not been uploading captures today until now (1348utc=
) there is no problem with my site, it has been displaying a message=
 "Grabber Temporary Off Line" as I do my PC maintenance on a Monday (h=
ard disk backup's etc).


  You will find that some (maybe most) of the other grabbers are rando=
m but mine is 24/7.


  Here is the url again just in case :-


  http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html


  73


  Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.


  2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra.com>

    G'day Gary,

    There currently seems to be a rend in the time-space continuum her=
e down under in VK-land....

    Apart from your site - for which I get a "can't connect".

    From the links on the Google site I get the following results.

    1. GM4SLV - last grab Jan 2009.
    2. CT1DRP - last grab Nov 2008.
    3. Hartmut Wolff - last grab Nov 2008.
    4. GM4ISM - can't connect.
    5. DF6NM - last grab May 2008.
    6. RN3AGC - can't connect.

    The only one that works is the http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/ li=
nk.

    What am I missing ?

    73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Gary - G4WGT=20
      To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
      Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 8:28 PM
      Subject: Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers....


      Hi Steve,=20


      A small list of grabbers on the UK500KHZ Group web site at :-


      http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers


      Also my own grabber page for the UK, EU & USA bands at :-


      http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html


      73


      Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.





      2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra.com>

        G'day All,

        In an expression of extreme optimism I am interested in gettin=
g details of 500kc beacons (preferably QRSS30 and slower) in Europe.=
    To get real-time confirmation of on-air status I am also looking=
 for relevant local grabbers for those beacons.

        73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)=20





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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G'day Gary,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Sorry - still can't connect.&nbsp;&nb=
sp; Perhaps=20
someone else should try.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Sorry to all for using the 'B' word=
 - I of course=20
meant MEPT....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>A bit of research makes me think ther=
e are no 24/7=20
QRSS30 or slower MEPTs operating on 500kc in the UK/EU&nbsp;- or at le=
ast none=20
that I can find.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>My intent was to leave ARGO going ove=
rnight here=20
(local time) each day(sic) for a period of time to see if, by some cha=
nce, I=20
could see anything this far away.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Yours grabber is 24/7, but unfortunat=
ely for some=20
inexplicable reason I cannot see it currently.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;In=20
any case,&nbsp;I would still need a regular MEPT with long carrier bur=
sts, and=20
that appears not to be the case.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks for the help and info.</FONT><=
/DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE   style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT:=
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=3Dltr>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV     style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color:=
 black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dg4wgt@tiscali.co.uk href=3D"mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk">G=
ary -=20
  G4WGT</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@=
blacksheep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_l=
f_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 06, 20=
09 12:55=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: 500kc beacon=
s and=20
  grabbers....</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Hi Steve,
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Although I have not been uploading captures today until now (13=
48utc)=20
  there is no problem with my site, it has been displaying a message=
 "Grabber=20
  Temporary Off Line" as I do my PC maintenance on a Monday (hard disk=
 backup's=20
  etc).</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>You will find that some (maybe most) of the other grabbers are=
 random but=20
  mine is 24/7.</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Here is the url again just in case :-</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><A     href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.htm=
l">http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html</A></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><A href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html"><=
/A>73</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.<BR><BR>
  <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A  =
   href=3D"mailto:vk2zto@djirra.com">vk2zto@djirra.com</A>&gt;</SPAN><=
BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE     style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0p=
x 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"     class=3Dgmail_quote>
    <DIV bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G'day Gary,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>There currently seems to be a ren=
d in the=20
    time-space continuum here down under in VK-land....</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Apart from your site - for which=
 I get a "can't=20
    connect".</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>From the links on&nbsp;the Google=
 site I get=20
    the following results.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>1. GM4SLV - last grab Jan 2009.</=
FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>2. CT1DRP - last grab Nov 2008.</=
FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>3. Hartmut Wolff - last grab Nov=
=20
    2008.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>4. GM4ISM - can't connect.</FONT>=
</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>5. DF6NM - last grab May 2008.</F=
ONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>6. RN3AGC - can't connect.</FONT>=
</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>The only one that works is the <A=
       href=3D"http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/" rel=3Dnofollow target=
=3D_blank><FONT       size=3D2       face=3D"Times New Roman">http://w=
ww.wireless.org.uk/grab/</FONT></A>&nbsp;link.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>What am I missing ?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)</FONT></D=
IV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE       style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING=
-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=
       dir=3Dltr>
      <DIV class=3Dim>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </D=
IV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B>From:</B=
> <A         title=3Dg4wgt@tiscali.co.uk href=3D"mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.=
co.uk"         target=3D_blank>Gary - G4WGT</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A         title=3Drs=
gb_lf_group@blacksheep.org         href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org"         target=3D_blank>rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A> </D=
IV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 05,=
 2009 8:28=20
      PM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: 500kc be=
acons and=20
      grabbers....</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV></DIV>
      <DIV>
      <DIV></DIV>
      <DIV class=3Dh5>Hi Steve,=20
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV>A small list of grabbers on the UK500KHZ Group web site at=
 :-</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><A         href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/=
web/500-khz-grabbers"         target=3D_blank>http://groups.google.com=
/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers</A></DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV>Also my own grabber page for the UK, EU &amp; USA bands at=
 :-</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><A href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.htm=
l"         target=3D_blank>http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber=
2.html</A></DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV>73</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><A         href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/=
web/500-khz-grabbers"         target=3D_blank></A><BR><BR>
      <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A=
         href=3D"mailto:vk2zto@djirra.com"         target=3D_blank>vk2=
zto@djirra.com</A>&gt;</SPAN><BR>
      <BLOCKQUOTE         style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN=
: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"         class=3Dgmail_quote>G'=
day All,<BR><BR>In an expression of extreme optimism=20
        I am interested in getting details of 500kc beacons (preferabl=
y QRSS30=20
        and slower) in Europe. &nbsp; &nbsp;To get real-time confirmat=
ion of=20
        on-air status I am also looking for relevant local grabbers fo=
r those=20
        beacons.<BR><BR>73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)=20
      <BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></=
DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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An article with this title was published in The Wireless World & Radio Rev=
iew for 28 October 1922 and reprinted in June 2008 in Cave Radio & Electro=
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Does anyone know who 2ZD was?=20

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Bonjour John....LF
Many thanks for the control and OE5ODL Ossy
is very well in my qth..best 73 s
=E0 bientot merci
best regards
Claude f8Boj JN16WA
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Hello,
now that I am happy with my selectiv level meter Praecitronic MV-62 I am looking for the best receicing antenna.
Especially I am interested in 400khz, 136kHz, 72kHz and below 22 kHz. With my 40m longwire reception is not good enough and with a frame antenna of 900m copper wire it was disappointing, too..
I think, an active antenna for 0 to 500 MHz would be the best for me - but I am looking forward to any other idea.
vy73 Horst DO1KHS
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Hello Ossi,sorry I missed your call.I saw it with the DF6NM's  grabber.
I try to calling you on 137720.
 
73 de F4DTL  Nicolas

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GM Andrey,
Thank you for running the grabber on my frequency, I took a few saves of the
trace at your grabber last night & as you say that one looked to be the
best.

Cheers,

Gary - G4WGT.

2009/10/11 Andrey rn3agc <rn3agc@mail.ru>

> Hi Gary, LF,
> The best copy at 20.47.
> GN
>
> 73 Andrey

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GM Andrey,<div><br></div><div>Thank you for running the grabber on my freq=
uency, I took a few saves of the trace at your grabber last night &amp; as=
 you say that one looked to be the best.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,<=
/div>
<div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/1=
0/11 Andrey rn3agc <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rn3agc@mail.ru"=
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Hi Gary, LF,<br>
The best copy at 20.47.<br>
GN<br>
<br>
73 Andrey</blockquote></div><br></div>

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Brilliant Dave! Thanks *so much* for my best DX to date at 120kms.  -20dB
S/N is not a bad signal either.

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/10/17 Dave Sergeant <dave@davesergeant.com>

> On 17 Oct 2009 at 15:02, G3XBM wrote:
>
> > Got some IRF510 FETs from Graham G3MFJ's club sales, so I've increased
> > my 500kHz ERP by around 10dB to around 60uW (microwatts). Already G7NKS
> > is spotting me 10dB stronger than ever before, which is an excellent
> > sign.
> >
> > All being well, the WSPR beacon will run overnight tonight and all
> > reports would be much appreciated.
>
> 153000  15  10  2.6   -62  0  G4JNT IO90 23
> 153000   8 -20  5.2     8  1  G3XBM JO02 0
>
> Wow, only 30dB down on G4JNT! Well done Roger.
>
> (sorry cannot upload as I am copying with WSJT7 which doesn't support
> the internet upload - but has an auto soundcard calibrator).
>
> 73 Dave G3YMC
> IO91PJ
>
> http://www.davesergeant.com
>
>
>


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Brilliant Dave! Thanks <u>so much</u> for my best DX to date at 120kms.=A0=
 -20dB S/N is not a bad signal either.<br><br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/17 Dave Sergeant <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:dave@davesergeant.com">dave@davesergeant.com</a>&gt;</span=
><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">On 17 Oct 2009=
 at 15:02, G3XBM wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; Got some IRF510 FETs from Graham G3MFJ&#39;s club sales, so I&#39;ve=
 increased<br>
&gt; my 500kHz ERP by around 10dB to around 60uW (microwatts). Already G7N=
KS<br>
&gt; is spotting me 10dB stronger than ever before, which is an excellent<=
br>
&gt; sign.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; All being well, the WSPR beacon will run overnight tonight and all<br=
>
&gt; reports would be much appreciated.<br>
<br>
153000 =A015 =A010 =A02.6 =A0 -62 =A00 =A0G4JNT IO90 23<br>
153000 =A0 8 -20 =A05.2 =A0 =A0 8 =A01 =A0G3XBM JO02 0<br>
<br>
Wow, only 30dB down on G4JNT! Well done Roger.<br>
<br>
(sorry cannot upload as I am copying with WSJT7 which doesn&#39;t support<=
br>
the internet upload - but has an auto soundcard calibrator).<br>
<br>
73 Dave G3YMC<br>
IO91PJ<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.davesergeant.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.daves=
ergeant.com</a><br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>----------------------=
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Hello Henny and Andrey.
Henny congratulations, what's your power out and kind of antenna on  2200m ?
 
 
 
F4DTL  Nicolas JN18FP

RX : Icom IC7400
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Quoting "Beckmann, Gerhard" <beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de>:

> I am often monitoring WSPR signals and yesterday I decoded OR7T with  
>  50 mW ERP!

Gerhard,

it was 5mW ERP (0.005) :

2009-10-21 21:24   OR7T   0.503889   -10   0   JO20ix   0.005   DK6NI   
  JN59ln   471   107

Based on the -10dB SNR it should have worked even with 17dB less ERP,  
what would be 0.1mW.

My 5mW transmissions were copied by 10 stations up to 878km.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


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Hello Henny and all ,

Yes good copy of XGJ ! also XES visible last night on my grabber !

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> Hi Warren,LF
> Capture XGJ,
> Henny pa3cpm
> best 73s
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzo=
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> XGJ 05-10.jpg
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Dear Graham, LF Group,

G0NBD wrote:
...>Looks like these low long wires radiate quite well at 500 , the high 
angle seems to  help the  'short' skip ?

Well, 20m high is quite high compared to most amateur antennas in use on 
500k - But doing a few sums, a 20m high, 150m long aerial should have 
radiation resistance of 1.5ohms or over, and one might expect several ohms 
loss resistance if in a good location. So efficiency could be in the tens of 
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Thank you Henny
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> Hello J-P,LF
> Nice capture AFJ,
> Henny pa3cpm
> 73s
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzo=
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> afj 25-10.jpg
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> Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virusse=
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Hello Finbar!
I listen to your regular CW signal on 501.055kHz. You have got a contact=
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Lubos, OK2BVG
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Hi Rik, LF,

I have noticed the same here on my 24/7 WSPR monitor station.

The last 3 days shown below :-

27/10/2009
Last decode - 0826utc
First decode - 1552utc

28/10/2009
Last decode - 0826utc
First decode - 1442utc

29/10/2009 (today)
Last decode - 0952utc

73,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.


2009/10/29 Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>

> Over the past days I monitored the G4JNT WSPR beacon 24/24.
> During daytime I have a weak but consistent copy of Andy's signal, average
> -24dB with ups and down of some dB.
> During nighttime the signal is -10dB on average, with the usual deep QSB
> (peaking -1dB, dips down to -20dB).
> But the most interesting observation is that in the afternoon the first
> peaks (from -24dB up to -8dB) occur as early as 15:45 UTC.
> This is almost 1 hour before sunset (16:37 UTC) and almost 1.5 hours before
> the D-layer (at mid point) goes into darkness.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
>
>

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Hi Rik, LF,<div><br></div><div>I have noticed the same here on my 24/7 WSP=
R monitor station.</div><div><br></div><div>The last 3 days shown below :-=
</div><div><br></div><div>27/10/2009</div><div>Last decode - 0826utc</div>
<div>First decode - 1552utc</div><div><br>28/10/2009</div><div>Last decode=
 - 0826utc</div><div>First decode - 1442utc</div><div><br></div><div>29/10=
/2009 (today)</div><div>Last decode - 0952utc</div><div><br></div><div>73,=
</div>
<div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.</div><div><br></div><div><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/29 Rik Strobbe <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be">rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be</=
a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Over the past days I monitored the G4JNT=
 WSPR beacon 24/24.<br>
During daytime I have a weak but consistent copy of Andy&#39;s signal, ave=
rage -24dB with ups and down of some dB.<br>
During nighttime the signal is -10dB on average, with the usual deep QSB=
 (peaking -1dB, dips down to -20dB).<br>
But the most interesting observation is that in the afternoon the first pe=
aks (from -24dB up to -8dB) occur as early as 15:45 UTC.<br>
This is almost 1 hour before sunset (16:37 UTC) and almost 1.5 hours befor=
e the D-layer (at mid point) goes into darkness.<br>
<br>
73, Rik =A0ON7YD - OR7T<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br></div>

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Scott Tilley wrote:
> Anyone copy JH1GVH last night?
>
Screenshot from UA0AET after14z:

jh1gvy in ua0


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Scott Tilley wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:4AC7C6E5.9040805@telus.net" type="cite">Anyone
copy JH1GVH last night?
  <br>
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Screenshot from UA0AET after14z:<br>
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Dear John/LF

 

Is the UK now not a 10w ERP limit?  

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

Dr. James Cowburn

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John RABSON
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Subject: LF: Re: 505kHz availability

 

The following table was published in "500kHz and Cave Radio", CREGJ issue
70, March 2008, p9.

 

Please advise of any errors.

 

73,

F5VLF/G3PAI
 


Country

kHz

E(I)RP


USA

505-514

Up to 1200W*


UK

501-504

1W


Germany

440, 505-505.2

9W


Belgium

501-504

5W


Sweden

505-505.2

1W


Czech Rep

505-505.2

1W

* transmitter output power

 


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dear John/LF<o:=
p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Is the <st1:cou=
ntry-region w:st=3D"on"><st1:place  w:st=3D"on">UK</st1:place></st1:co=
untry-region> now not a 10w ERP limit?&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></font>=
</p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span=
 style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>With best regards</span=
></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Ro=
man"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Ro=
man"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

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reestyle Script"><span style=3D'font-size:24.0pt;font-family:"Freestyl=
e Script"'>Jim</span></font></b></strong><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Ro=
man"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font><=
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man"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font><=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span=
 style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Dr. James Cowburn</span=
></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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t size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DTahoma><sp=
an style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-=
weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=
=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma; color:wi=
ndowtext'> owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.=
org</st1:PersonName>
[mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
</st1:PersonName>]
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>John RABSO=
N<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 23 October 2009=
 10:29<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:s=
t=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: Re: 505kHz
availability</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:win=
dowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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man"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font><=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Ro=
man"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>The following table was publishe=
d in &quot;500kHz and
Cave Radio&quot;, CREGJ&nbsp;issue 70, March 2008, p9.<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Ro=
man"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Ro=
man"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Please advise of any errors.<o:p=
></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Ro=
man"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font><=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Ro=
man"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>73,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Ro=
man"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>F5VLF/G3PAI<br>
&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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  <td width=3D97 valign=3Dtop style=3D'width:58.2pt;border:inset black=
 1.0pt;   padding:3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt'>
  <p><font size=3D1 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=
=3DEN-GB   style=3D'font-size:9.0pt'>Country</span></font><span lang=
=3DEN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
  </td>
  <td width=3D85 valign=3Dtop style=3D'width:51.0pt;border:inset black=
 1.0pt;   padding:3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt'>
  <p><font size=3D1 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=
=3DEN-GB   style=3D'font-size:9.0pt'>kHz</span></font><span lang=3DEN-=
GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
  </td>
  <td width=3D112 valign=3Dtop style=3D'width:67.2pt;border:inset blac=
k 1.0pt;   padding:3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt'>
  <p><font size=3D1 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=
=3DEN-GB   style=3D'font-size:9.0pt'>E(I)RP</span></font><span lang=3D=
EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
  </td>
 </tr>
 <tr>
  <td width=3D97 valign=3Dtop style=3D'width:58.2pt;border:inset black=
 1.0pt;   padding:3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt'>
  <p><st1:country-region w:st=3D"on"><st1:place w:st=3D"on"><font size=
=3D1     color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=3DEN-GB sty=
le=3D'font-size:9.0pt'>USA</span></font></st1:place></st1:country-regi=
on><span   lang=3DEN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
  </td>
  <td width=3D85 valign=3Dtop style=3D'width:51.0pt;border:inset black=
 1.0pt;   padding:3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt'>
  <p><font size=3D1 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=
=3DEN-GB   style=3D'font-size:9.0pt'>505-514</span></font><span lang=
=3DEN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
  </td>
  <td width=3D112 valign=3Dtop style=3D'width:67.2pt;border:inset blac=
k 1.0pt;   padding:3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt'>
  <p><font size=3D1 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=
=3DEN-GB   style=3D'font-size:9.0pt'>Up to 1200W*</span></font><span=
 lang=3DEN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
  </td>
 </tr>
 <tr>
  <td width=3D97 valign=3Dtop style=3D'width:58.2pt;border:inset black=
 1.0pt;   padding:3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt'>
  <p><st1:country-region w:st=3D"on"><st1:place w:st=3D"on"><font size=
=3D1     color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=3DEN-GB sty=
le=3D'font-size:9.0pt'>UK</span></font></st1:place></st1:country-regio=
n><span   lang=3DEN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
  </td>
  <td width=3D85 valign=3Dtop style=3D'width:51.0pt;border:inset black=
 1.0pt;   padding:3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt'>
  <p><font size=3D1 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=
=3DEN-GB   style=3D'font-size:9.0pt'>501-504</span></font><span lang=
=3DEN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
  </td>
  <td width=3D112 valign=3Dtop style=3D'width:67.2pt;border:inset blac=
k 1.0pt;   padding:3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt'>
  <p><font size=3D1 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=
=3DEN-GB   style=3D'font-size:9.0pt'>1W</span></font><span lang=3DEN-G=
B><o:p></o:p></span></p>
  </td>
 </tr>
 <tr>
  <td width=3D97 valign=3Dtop style=3D'width:58.2pt;border:inset black=
 1.0pt;   padding:3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt'>
  <p><st1:country-region w:st=3D"on"><st1:place w:st=3D"on"><font size=
=3D1     color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=3DEN-GB sty=
le=3D'font-size:9.0pt'>Germany</span></font></st1:place></st1:country-=
region><span   lang=3DEN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
  </td>
  <td width=3D85 valign=3Dtop style=3D'width:51.0pt;border:inset black=
 1.0pt;   padding:3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt'>
  <p><font size=3D1 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=
=3DEN-GB   style=3D'font-size:9.0pt'>440, </span></font><font size=3D2=
><span lang=3DEN-GB   style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>505-505.2</span></fon=
t><span lang=3DEN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
  </td>
  <td width=3D112 valign=3Dtop style=3D'width:67.2pt;border:inset blac=
k 1.0pt;   padding:3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt'>
  <p><font size=3D1 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=
=3DEN-GB   style=3D'font-size:9.0pt'>9W</span></font><span lang=3DEN-G=
B><o:p></o:p></span></p>
  </td>
 </tr>
 <tr>
  <td width=3D97 valign=3Dtop style=3D'width:58.2pt;border:inset black=
 1.0pt;   padding:3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt'>
  <p><st1:country-region w:st=3D"on"><st1:place w:st=3D"on"><font size=
=3D1     color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=3DEN-GB sty=
le=3D'font-size:9.0pt'>Belgium</span></font></st1:place></st1:country-=
region><span   lang=3DEN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
  </td>
  <td width=3D85 valign=3Dtop style=3D'width:51.0pt;border:inset black=
 1.0pt;   padding:3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt'>
  <p><font size=3D1 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=
=3DEN-GB   style=3D'font-size:9.0pt'>501-504</span></font><span lang=
=3DEN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
  </td>
  <td width=3D112 valign=3Dtop style=3D'width:67.2pt;border:inset blac=
k 1.0pt;   padding:3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt'>
  <p><font size=3D1 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=
=3DEN-GB   style=3D'font-size:9.0pt'>5W</span></font><span lang=3DEN-G=
B><o:p></o:p></span></p>
  </td>
 </tr>
 <tr>
  <td width=3D97 valign=3Dtop style=3D'width:58.2pt;border:inset black=
 1.0pt;   padding:3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt'>
  <p><st1:country-region w:st=3D"on"><st1:place w:st=3D"on"><font size=
=3D1     color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=3DEN-GB sty=
le=3D'font-size:9.0pt'>Sweden</span></font></st1:place></st1:country-r=
egion><span   lang=3DEN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
  </td>
  <td width=3D85 valign=3Dtop style=3D'width:51.0pt;border:inset black=
 1.0pt;   padding:3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt'>
  <p><font size=3D1 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=
=3DEN-GB   style=3D'font-size:9.0pt'>505-505.2</span></font><span lang=
=3DEN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
  </td>
  <td width=3D112 valign=3Dtop style=3D'width:67.2pt;border:inset blac=
k 1.0pt;   padding:3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt'>
  <p><font size=3D1 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=
=3DEN-GB   style=3D'font-size:9.0pt'>1W</span></font><span lang=3DEN-G=
B><o:p></o:p></span></p>
  </td>
 </tr>
 <tr>
  <td width=3D97 valign=3Dtop style=3D'width:58.2pt;border:inset black=
 1.0pt;   padding:3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt'>
  <p><font size=3D1 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=
=3DEN-GB   style=3D'font-size:9.0pt'>Czech Rep</span></font><span lang=
=3DEN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
  </td>
  <td width=3D85 valign=3Dtop style=3D'width:51.0pt;border:inset black=
 1.0pt;   padding:3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt'>
  <p><font size=3D1 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=
=3DEN-GB   style=3D'font-size:9.0pt'>505-505.2</span></font><span lang=
=3DEN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
  </td>
  <td width=3D112 valign=3Dtop style=3D'width:67.2pt;border:inset blac=
k 1.0pt;   padding:3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt'>
  <p><font size=3D1 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=
=3DEN-GB   style=3D'font-size:9.0pt'>1W</span></font><span lang=3DEN-G=
B><o:p></o:p></span></p>
  </td>
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<p style=3D'margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3D3 co=
lor=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>=
* transmitter output
power<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p style=3D'margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3D3 co=
lor=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>=
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Sorry...nothing seen. T storms over Atlantic generating some pretty good static levels.

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Thanks a lot, Clemens. Will be changed at once. Don`t worry about the=
 decimal point a little bit more left or right :-)
73  Walter

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Clemens Paul=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 10:42 AM
  Subject: LF: Re: wspr 503.8


  Hallo Walter,
  =20
  please check the frequency readout in your WSPR program.
  Frequency is entered in MHz not in kHz.
  You have entered 502.301534 MHz instead of 0.502301534 MHz.
  Therefore you'll find your loggings in the database not under LF/MF
  but only under "All".
  It's exactly the same mistake I've made some time ago.:-)
  =20
  73
  Clemens
  DL4RAJ
  =20
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Walter und Marianne Staubach=20
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
    Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 11:02 PM
    Subject: LF: wspr 503.8


    Ufb reception of G0NBD, G4JNT, OR7T hr in JN59no. See datebase at=
 21:42UTC.
    73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF (reporter)



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    No virus found in this incoming message.
    Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks a lot, Clemens. Will be change=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73&nbsp; Walter</FONT></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE  style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px=
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 25, 200=
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  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: wspr 503.8</=
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hallo Walter,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>please&nbsp;check the&nbsp;frequenc=
y readout in=20
  your WSPR program.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Frequency is entered in MHz not in=
=20
  kHz.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You have entered&nbsp;502.301534&nb=
sp;MHz instead=20
  of 0.502301534&nbsp;MHz.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Therefore you'll find your loggings=
 in the=20
  database not under LF/MF</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>but only under "All".</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It's exactly the same mistake I've=
 made&nbsp;some=20
  time ago.:-)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73<BR>Clemens<BR>DL4RAJ</FONT></DIV=
>
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    <A href=3D"mailto:wum.staubach@t-online.de"      title=3Dwum.staub=
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, October 24,=
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: wspr 503.8</DI=
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ufb reception of G0NBD, G4JNT, OR=
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF (reporter=
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G'day Gary,

Unfortunately my nuclear-grade security wall has black-listed "myweb.t=
iscali.co.uk/" again.

There is something in the transaction which it doesn't like.    This=
 has only happened once or twice a year before - and only with "dodgy"=
 sites with lots of popups, etc.

I have cleared it again but I don't want to keep clearing it in case=
 it is a real concern as I am a bit over-cautious about security issue=
s (OK - a LOT over-cautious...).

Interestingly my "real-time" protection got switched off at the same=
 time.   Probably a coincidence - but worrying.

It is a long time since I tried to debug such a situation (and it wasn=
't fun...), so I will give up before I start.

Oh well - one unhappy customer out of 1077 is not something for you to=
 worry about...:-)

Thanks for the help.

73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)

----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Gary - G4WGT=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 7:49 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: Links - Gary


  Hi Steve,


  I am pleased you got that frustrating problem sorted out HI HI.


  Glad to help if I can in any way.


  Cheers,


  gary - G4WGT.

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G'day Gary,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Unfortunately my nuclear-grade securi=
ty wall has=20
black-listed "myweb.tiscali.co.uk/" again.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>There is something in the transaction=
 which it=20
doesn't like.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; This has only happened once or twice=
 a year=20
before - and only with "dodgy" sites with lots of popups, etc.</FONT><=
/DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I have cleared it again but I don't=
 want to keep=20
clearing it in case it is a real concern as I am a bit over-cautious=
 about=20
security issues (OK - a LOT over-cautious...).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Interestingly my "real-time" protecti=
on got=20
switched off at the same time.&nbsp;&nbsp; Probably a coincidence - bu=
t=20
worrying.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>It is a long time since I tried to de=
bug such a=20
situation (and it wasn't fun...), so I will give up before I start.</F=
ONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Oh well - one unhappy customer out of=
 1077 is not=20
something for you to worry about...:-)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks for the help.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>I am pleased you got that frustrating problem sorted out HI HI.=
</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Glad to help if I can in any way.</DIV>
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Hi Roger,
You need to consider the length of the text with the QRS speed you wish to
use ie.

QRS3 - G3XBM JO02DG
QRS10 - G3XBM
QRS30 & longer rates - XBM

You could include a CW ID at the end.

73,

Gary - G4WGT.


2009/10/21 Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>

> Good folks,
>
> Some advice please. I am about to organise some keyer ICs for beaconing in
> QRSS on 500kHz and 136kHz. Is there a standard message format used for QRSS
> beaconing?
>
> I was proposing to use *G3XBM JO02DG* or just *G3XBM* . Is this OK?
>
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM
>
>
>
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Hi Roger,<div><br></div><div>You need to consider the length of the text=
 with the QRS speed you wish to use ie.</div><div><br></div><div>QRS3 - G3=
XBM JO02DG</div><div>QRS10 - G3XBM</div><div>QRS30 &amp; longer rates - XB=
M</div>
<div><br></div><div>You could include a CW ID at the end.</div><div><br></=
div><div>73,</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT.<br><div><br><br><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/21 Roger Lapthorn <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:rogerlapthorn@gmail.com">rogerlapthorn@gmail.com</a>&gt;</=
span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Good folks,<br><br>Some advice please. I=
 am about to organise some keyer ICs for beaconing in QRSS on 500kHz and=
 136kHz. Is there a standard message format used for QRSS beaconing? <br>
<br>I was proposing to use <b>G3XBM JO02DG</b> or just <b>G3XBM</b> . Is=
 this OK?<br>
<br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br><font color=3D"#888888"><br><br clear=3D"all"><b=
r>-- <br>-------------------------------------------------------------<br>=
<a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://g3xbm-=
qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">http://www.g3xbm.co.u=
k</a><br>
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br></div></div>

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Hello Henny, Nicolas, LF,
Capture last night at 0.10z. The best copy.

73 Andrey


> Tu Nicolas,
> best 73s
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Hello,

despite some of you might have heard about the following news, I was very surprised and I am looking forward to this event:

DDH47 147.3 khz in QRSS 3

In Honor of Nobelprize Winner Marconi and Prof. Ferdinand Braun a special transmission will be Date:

10. Dec 2009 Time: Start 2300 UTC

Frequ. 147,3 kc Mode:

QRSS 3

PWR: 20 kW

The weather forcast transmitter Pinneberg DDH47 will stop RTTY ( 50 Bd) transmission in between 10. Dec 2300h UTC and 11. Dec 001 UTC In this timegap, the TX will be used for a special event transmission. Short words in QRRS 3 will be transmitted. After the transmission You may confirm the receiving at a shortwave frequency or via Internet ( QRG and adress will be given later) You may check propagation every day / night at 147,3 Kc DDH47, because the TX is working 24 Hours

vy73 Horst DO1KHS


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Monitoring as of 1937utc


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Roger Lapthorn wrote:
> 2009-10-17 16:04  G3XBM  0.503920  -25  0  JO02dg  0.001  G0KTN
> IO81ti 210  242 210kms - brilliant!!! Thanks G0KTN.
> 
> 73s Roger G3XBM
> 

Let's see if you can manage some REAL DX!

I'm watching, and will keep a lookout through the night.

John
GM4SLV


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Hello Jim,

I have seen a message that this transmission has been cancelled.
And yes, your mini-whip will do.

I even used it with Johan Bodin's great program directly fed into my  
soundcard.

Best regards,
Roelof, pa0rdt


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Since Andy started running the  G3PLX  beacon on  503.7 Khz , Gary G4W=
GT has maintained a monitor=20
running the G3PLX beacon reporting  software  , which can be viewed on=
 line  in real time at : =20

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html


There  are  3  time division channels  available  in the  beacon syste=
m .. Andy is  transmitting in the first  time slot and
recording on the  'RED' trace=20

BLUE and GREEN  are  recording , and are  available for  use  , detail=
s are posted :-

http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/multi-function-beacon-by-a=
ndy-g4jnt

To use the blue or green time slots , Andy has made  available a contr=
ol programme that  runs in windows=20
and  keys the  tx via the  com port  at 15 minuet intervals , that co=
 inside with the monitoring  window  of the
software  :-=20

http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/PCBCN.zip

All that is needed is a CW tx that can be  tuned to  503.7 , A com por=
t  tx ppt  key as used by most=20
software to key the tx , but in this case connected across  the  CW ke=
y line , the  pc time needs to  be set=20
as close to  'real' as possible , the  rx software will follow a sligh=
t time   error

Note  , the  recoding  and  tx control software  make up a  beacon sys=
tem .. so if you are crystal
controlled and want to  set up a  experiment with other  stations , th=
e RX stations  simply tune
to  your ''TX'  frequency and they will record the  path on a rolling=
 plot=20

73 - G ..=20

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<DIV><FONT size=3D4 face=3DArial>Since Andy started running the&nbsp;=
 G3PLX&nbsp;=20
beacon on&nbsp; 503.7 Khz , Gary G4WGT has maintained a monitor </FONT=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D4 face=3DArial>running the G3PLX beacon reporting&nb=
sp;=20
software&nbsp; , </FONT><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><FONT size=3D4>whi=
ch can be viewed=20
on line&nbsp; in real time at :</FONT>&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><A   title=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co=
.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"=
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html">http://myweb.tiscal=
i.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>There&nbsp; are&nbsp; 3&nbsp; time di=
vision=20
channels&nbsp; available&nbsp; in the&nbsp; beacon system .. Andy is&n=
bsp;=20
transmitting in the first&nbsp; time slot and</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>recording on the&nbsp; 'RED' trace </=
FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><STRONG>BLUE and GREEN&nbsp; are&nbsp; recordi=
ng=20
,&nbsp;and are&nbsp; available for&nbsp; use &nbsp;, details are poste=
d=20
:-</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><A   title=3D"http://groups.google.co=
m/group/uk500khz/web/multi-function-beacon-by-andy-g4jnt&#10;CTRL + Cl=
ick to follow link"   href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/=
web/multi-function-beacon-by-andy-g4jnt">http://groups.google.com/grou=
p/uk500khz/web/multi-function-beacon-by-andy-g4jnt</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>To use the blue or green time slots=
 , Andy has=20
made&nbsp; available a control programme that&nbsp; runs in=20
windows&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>and&nbsp; keys the&nbsp; tx via the&n=
bsp; com=20
port&nbsp; at 15 minuet intervals , that co inside with the monitoring=
&nbsp;=20
window&nbsp; of the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>software&nbsp;&nbsp;:- </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><A   title=3D"http://groups.google.co=
m/group/uk500khz/web/PCBCN.zip&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=
=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/PCBCN.zip">http://grou=
ps.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/PCBCN.zip</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>All that is needed is a CW tx that ca=
n be&nbsp;=20
tuned to&nbsp; 503.7 , A com port&nbsp; tx ppt&nbsp; key as used by mo=
st=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>software to key the tx , but in this=
 case connected=20
across&nbsp; the&nbsp; CW key line , the&nbsp; pc time needs to&nbsp;=
 be set=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>as close to&nbsp; 'real' as possible=
 , the&nbsp; rx=20
software will follow a slight time &nbsp; error</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><STRONG>Note&nbsp; , the&nbsp; recoding&nbsp;=
 and&nbsp; tx=20
control software&nbsp; make up a&nbsp; beacon system .. so if you are=
=20
crystal</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><STRONG>controlled and want to&nbsp; set up a&=
nbsp;=20
experiment with other&nbsp; stations , the&nbsp;RX stations&nbsp; simp=
ly=20
tune</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><FONT size=3D3><STRONG>to&nbsp; your=
 ''TX'&nbsp;=20
frequency and they will record the&nbsp; path on a rolling plot</STRON=
G></FONT>=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial>73 - G .. </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Hi all,


Here my WSPR log from yesterday evening - listening with Perseus and
mini whip:


2222  -4  0.5   0.503848  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2232  -2  1.2   0.503861  0 OR7T JO20 23
2234  -1  1.4   0.503923  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2236 -19  0.7   0.503849  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2238  -3  1.3   0.503861  0 OR7T JO20 23
2240 -17  1.7   0.503899 -1 G0NBD IO83 23
2240   5  1.2   0.503923  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2244   2  1.2   0.503861  0 OR7T JO20 23
2244 -19  1.3   0.503896  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2246 -19  0.6   0.503849  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2246 -20  1.2   0.503907  0 G4WGT IO83 17
2246   1  1.2   0.503923  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2250  -6  1.2   0.503861  0 OR7T JO20 23
2250 -23  1.4   0.503896  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2250   7  1.2   0.503923  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2252 -24  0.6   0.503849  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2254  -4  1.2   0.503861  0 OR7T JO20 23
2254 -16  1.4   0.503896  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2254 -18  1.1   0.503906  0 G4WGT IO83 17
2256   6  1.3   0.503923  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2258 -20  1.2   0.503906  0 G4WGT IO83 17
2300 -17  0.6   0.503849  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2300 -13  1.9   0.503896  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2300   6  1.3   0.503923  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2302  -1  1.2   0.503861  0 OR7T JO20 23
2304   7  1.2   0.503923 -1 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2306 -17  0.0   0.503849 -1 G4JNT IO90 23
2306 -14  1.0   0.503896 -1 G0NBD IO83 23
2310   2  1.2   0.503923  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2312 -26  0.6   0.503849  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2312 -16  1.4   0.503907  0 G4WGT IO83 17



--=20
vy 73 + gd DX,

Michael


RX: ICOM R75, SDR-IQ, Perseus
Antenna: Wellbrook ALA 1530, Mini-Whip
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At 0617z.  Argo set to 30s dots.  Note drift in receiving system!

Full screenshot won't go through reflector.

John Rabson 
F5VLF
58800 Cervon
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Good morning - what frequency please?

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Good morning - what frequency please?<BR>
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Hi Henny,
nice and strong signs in jo43sv.
pse see attachment.
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Hi Claude!

Claude Berthebaud wrote:
> Good evening ALL
> The Beacon "BOJ" is open  QRSS60  137776.2hz
> Good night
> Claude F8boj JN16WA



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From: "Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>
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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:46:31 -0000
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Ossi, LF,
Screengrabs of OE5ODL, captured this afternoon. My antenna is a 20m =
 centre fed "Tee" at 5m. RX is ICOM ICP-R1000, with tuned pre-amp.


73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM







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Hi everyone.....what dial frequency is everyone using for 500khz wspr....I 
finally have my long wires out and have been monitoring. I can leave WSPR 
running almost 24/7 to see if I can catch a WSPR signal from across the 
pond. I did catch a couple last year which was great!!!

Regards,

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FN85ij 



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Hi Nicolas,LF,
The antenne is a sloper,14meter with two times 10 meter tophat,
the power is 200 watts with two times pl-519

best 73s
henny cpm
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  Hello Henny and Andrey.
  Henny congratulations, what's your power out and kind of antenna on=
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  F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP

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hi Jean Pierre and LF
Many thanks for opened your grabber.now
tonight I test the reliability of traffic without standalone pc ..
Good evening everyone
Claude F8boj JN16WA

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Hello Claude ,

Grabber ON for listening you !

73 Jean-Pierre F1AFJ

Claude Berthebaud a =E9crit :
> hi LF
> Beacon open 137776.20hz "boj" qrss60
> good evening..
> Claude F8boj JN16WA
>




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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian G3YKB" <g3ykb@onetel.com>
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Subject: Re: LF: AF Amps at 136


Hi Chris -

I built a linear PA for 136 kHz (I wanted it linear so as to run
PSK31). It uses
four bipolar output transistors (two MJ15003 and two MJ15004) in complement
ary
parallel/push-pull class AB. I drive them with two other transistors (2SD14
59
and 2SB1037) in darlington configuration - ie a simple "AF amplifier" type
of
circuit.
What is it ? its either an AF AMP or RF AMP.
G3KEV


 The whole lot is fed from a TDA2030. It produces a peak output of
150
watts (from a dual 32 volt supply) and has withstood all sorts of abuse.
However it is only 40% efficient (I suspect this may be due to the slew
rate of
the power transistors).

"AF amplifiers" can work!

Regards - Brian (G3YKB)

Quoting Chris <c.ashby435@btinternet.com>:

> Hi All,
> Just started constructing TX for 136kHz, noticed Maplin do a Velleman
> audio PA kit that is rated at 200W (100W RMS into 4R). OK there's no
> mains transformer or heat sink, but reckon it's good value at £14.99.
> Point is the specs also say the minus 3db frequency response is 3Hz /
> 200kHz.
> The RSGB books 'LF Today' refer to using audio amps as PAs at 136
> with 'a few modifications'. Does anybody know where these
> modifications are documented? I guess there's nothing major, reduce a
> few cap values? Remove Zobel Network etc.?? If anyone has experience
> with this approach I would appreciate some hints. Thanks.
> Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable.





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Hi LF

0342   -28  0.1   0.503852  G4JNT IO90 23


73 Andrey


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Dear Andy, LF group

after many unsuccessful attempts  to get your wspr signal  positively 
decoded
today  i had more luck  .. here we go:
2252 -28  0.1   0.503855  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2300 -28  0.2   0.503854  0 G4JNT IO90 23
the rx side is a modest one:  1sq.meter loop /two stage buffer/amplif/ 
ft857d

                                      73 de Piotr, sq7mpj

qth: Lodz /jo91rs/





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Hello All !

Are there any "grabber"-stations in Europe that have a real-time display
accessible via internet ?

Will start my MF-beacon DI2BJ on 505.030 kHz by tmw with regular CW.

Reports are welcome  :-)    73 de wolf  df2py / DI2BJ


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Hi LF,
Capture DTL
Henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
DTL 27-10.jpg

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi LF,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Capture DTL</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:<BR>DTL 27-10.jpg<BR><BR>Opmerking: 
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G'day Gary,

Well - the problem has gone away.   For some reason the "myweb.tiscali=
.co.uk/..." site address and several others had been put on a blacklis=
t in my network security setup.  Something has triggered it off.

While I obviously don't want to go into specific details, currently th=
is has been cleared.

My apologies for wasting your time and RSGB bandwidth.

73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Gary - G4WGT=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 10:49 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: Links - Gary


  Hi All,


  My thanks to all (both direct & LF) who confirmed that the grabber=
 links are OK.


  73


  Gary - G4WGT.


  2009/10/6 Chris <c.ashby435@btinternet.com>

    Hi Gary,
    All seems to work OK here as well.
    73, Chris, G4AYT.

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G'day Gary,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Well - the problem has gone away.&nbs=
p;&nbsp; For=20
some reason the "myweb.tiscali.co.uk/..." site address and several oth=
ers had=20
been put on a blacklist in my network security setup.&nbsp; Something=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>While I obviously don't want to go in=
to specific=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>My apologies for wasting your time an=
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bandwidth.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE   style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT:=
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>Hi All,
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  <DIV>My thanks to all (both direct &amp; LF) who confirmed that the=
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    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Hi Gary,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>All seems to work OK here as well=
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G'day Gary,

For some reason your site is not available here at the moment (1005UTC=
).    The google site and other UK sites are.

Probably a temporary outage.

73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Gary - G4WGT=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 8:28 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers....


  Hi Steve,


  A small list of grabbers on the UK500KHZ Group web site at :-


  http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers


  Also my own grabber page for the UK, EU & USA bands at :-


  http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html


  73


  Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.





  2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra.com>

    G'day All,

    In an expression of extreme optimism I am interested in getting de=
tails of 500kc beacons (preferably QRSS30 and slower) in Europe.    To=
 get real-time confirmation of on-air status I am also looking for rel=
evant local grabbers for those beacons.

    73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)=20



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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G'day Gary,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>For some reason your site is not avai=
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>Hi Steve,
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  <DIV>A small list of grabbers on the UK500KHZ Group web site at :-</=
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  <DIV><A     href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-=
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Thank you Henny, XGJ will be off tonight.
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2009/10/8 henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>:
> Hi Warren,LF
> Capture XGJ
> Henny cpm
> best 73s
>
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden
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Hello Warren,LF
Nice capture XGJ
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
XGJ 06-10.jpg

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het 
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Ok Gerhard

Thanks for the  reception  reports ... did you  manage to decode the=
  dual signal ? i closed at 2300  utc  ,=20
what was the  throb mode decode  , when psk was 'managing some decode?=
?

had a short cw qso with  g3ldo round 2300   but lost in very  deep  qs=
b and very high static noise ..  may be  not a good  night for testing=
=20

tnx - G ..


From: Beckmann, Gerhard=20
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:19 AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Cc: 'Graham'=20
Subject: AW: >>> PSK31 ADDED LF: Throb -2- on 503.000 AND PSK31 503.30=
0 <<<<<<<<


Hello Graham,

=20

>> sri, sri, statics are too strong this night, I had to switch off th=
e Rx...

I hope condx will better tomorrow.

No problem at all in monitoring both signal,  PSK31 and Thorb-2;

I have made a short test some minutes ago and can see both signals and=
 BPSK31 was managing some "decoding attemps".

>> And in parallel I am monitoring Andy's WSPR-beacon with -24 dB !!!=
 as a signal level reference.

Signals are poor this evening in comparison to our PSK31 some days ago=
.

=20

Hope to meet again you tomorrow on 503 kHz.

=20

vy 73 de Gerhard  //  DK6NI

=20

=20

=20

=20


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Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@bl=
acksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Oktober 2009 00:14
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: >>> PSK31 ADDED LF: Throb -2- on 503.000 AND PSK31 503.300 <<=
<<<<<<

=20

Added  PSK31  on  503.300  , will be a  -3 dB  drop in peak level when=
 in simultaneous  TX due to  tx alc action=20

=20

503.000    throb -2-

503.300    PSK31=20

=20

    Tnx - G ..=20

=20

From: Graham=20

Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 10:13 PM

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20

Subject: Re: LF: Throb -2- Beacon running on 503.000 center frequency

=20

Thank you  for the  report Gerhard=20

=20

Be interested as to your  comments on the  decode , compared to the =
 psk qso=20

as it looks like the  condx are worse ?=20

=20

What is the  peak signal level ?

=20

tnx - G=20

=20

=20

From: Graham=20

Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 6:52 PM

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20

Subject: LF: Throb -2- Beacon running on 503.000 center frequency

=20

Throb 2 beacon on 503.000 =20

=20

running  :  fldigi , throb mode -2- center  frequency  503.000 Khz=20

=20

TX  set USB , Rx 'on during  60 second tx pause ,

=20

Interested to  see  how the  mode prints / recovers  in the  noise /=
 qsb =20

=20

Reports welcome ,

=20

Tnx - Graham

G0NBD

=20

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Ok Gerhard</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks for the&nbsp; reception&nbsp;=
 reports ...=20
did you&nbsp; manage to decode the&nbsp; dual signal ? i closed at 230=
0&nbsp;=20
utc&nbsp; , </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>what was the&nbsp; throb mode&nbsp;de=
code&nbsp; ,=20
when psk was 'managing some decode??</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>had a short cw qso with&nbsp; g3ldo=
 round=20
2300&nbsp; &nbsp;but lost in very&nbsp; deep &nbsp;qsb and very high=
 static=20
noise ..&nbsp; may be&nbsp; not a good&nbsp; night for testing </FONT>=
</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>tnx - G ..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A   title=3Dbeckmann.er=
langen@freenet.de   href=3D"mailto:beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de">Beckm=
ann, Gerhard</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:19 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mail=
to:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=3Dg8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk   href=3D"mailto:g8=
fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">'Graham'</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> AW: &gt;&gt;&gt; PSK31 ADDED LF: Throb -2- on 503=
.000 AND=20
PSK31 503.300 &lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
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-GB>Hello=20
Graham,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"   lang=3D=
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=3DEN=
-GB>&gt;&gt;=20
sri, sri, statics are too strong this night, I had to switch off the=
=20
Rx=85..<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=3DEN=
-GB>I hope condx=20
will better tomorrow.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT color=3Dblue size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=
   style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEI=
GHT: bold"   lang=3DEN-GB>No problem at all in monitoring both signal,=
&nbsp; PSK31 and=20
Thorb-2;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></B></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; BACKGROUND: yellow; COLOR: navy; FONT-S=
IZE: 10pt"   lang=3DEN-GB>I have made a short test some minutes ago an=
d can see <B><I><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-STYLE: italic; FONT-WEIGHT: bold=
">both signals</SPAN></I></B> and=20
BPSK31 was managing some =93decoding attemps=94=85</SPAN></FONT><FONT=
 color=3Dnavy   size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Aria=
l; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"   lang=3DEN-GB><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FO=
NT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=3DEN=
-GB>&gt;&gt; And=20
in parallel I am monitoring <B><I><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-STYLE: italic;=
 FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Andy=92s WSPR-beacon with -24 dB !!!=20
as a signal level reference</SPAN></I></B>=85<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT>=
</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=3DEN=
-GB>Signals are=20
poor this evening in comparison to our PSK31 some days=20
ago.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"   lang=3D=
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  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=3DEN=
-GB>Hope to meet=20
again you tomorrow on 503 kHz=85<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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-GB>vy 73 de=20
Gerhard&nbsp; //&nbsp; DK6NI<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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homa; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">=20
owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:Pe=
rsonName>=20
[mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName   w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o=
rg</st1:PersonName>] <B><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Im Auftrag=
 von </SPAN></B>Graham<BR><B><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Gesen=
det:</SPAN></B> Donnerstag, 8. Oktober 2009=20
00:14<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">An:</SPAN></B> <st1:Pers=
onName   w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><BR>=
<B><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Betreff:</SPAN></B> &gt;&gt;&gt=
; PSK31 ADDED LF: Throb=20
-2- on 503.000 AND PSK31 503.300=20
&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN  =
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Added&nbsp; PSK31&nbsp; on&nbsp;=20
503.300&nbsp; , will be a&nbsp; -3 dB&nbsp; drop in peak level when in=
=20
simultaneous&nbsp; TX due to&nbsp; tx alc action=20
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN  =
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">503.000&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;throb=
=20
-2-</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">503.300&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;PSK31=
=20
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN  =
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN  =
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT><FONT=
 size=3D2   face=3DArial><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE:=
 10pt">Tnx - G ..=20
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
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<DIV>
<DIV style=3D"font-color: black">
<P style=3D"BACKGROUND: whitesmoke" class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT size=3D=
2   face=3DTahoma><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10p=
t; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT   size=3D2 face=3DT=
ahoma><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A   title=
=3Dg8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Gra=
ham</A>=20
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style=3D"BACKGROUND: whitesmoke" class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT size=3D=
2   face=3DTahoma><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10p=
t; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT   size=3D2 face=3DT=
ahoma><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">=20
Wednesday, October 07, 2009 10:13 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV=
>
<DIV>
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oma><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A   title=
=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksh=
eep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
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2   face=3DTahoma><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10p=
t; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT   size=3D2 face=
=3DTahoma><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Re: LF=
:=20
Throb -2- Beacon running on 503.000 center=20
frequency<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN  =
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Thank you&nbsp; for the&nbsp; report=
=20
Gerhard </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN  =
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Be interested as to your&nbsp;=20
comments on the&nbsp; decode , compared to the&nbsp; psk qso=20
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">as it looks like the&nbsp; condx are=
=20
worse ? </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN  =
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">What is the&nbsp; peak signal level=
=20
?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN  =
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">tnx - G=20
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN  =
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><SPAN   style=3D"FON=
T-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>=
</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV style=3D"font-color: black">
<P style=3D"BACKGROUND: whitesmoke" class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT size=3D=
2   face=3DTahoma><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10p=
t; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT   size=3D2 face=3DT=
ahoma><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A   title=
=3Dg8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Gra=
ham</A>=20
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style=3D"BACKGROUND: whitesmoke" class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT size=3D=
2   face=3DTahoma><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10p=
t; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT   size=3D2 face=3DT=
ahoma><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">=20
Wednesday, October 07, 2009 6:52 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style=3D"BACKGROUND: whitesmoke" class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT size=3D=
2   face=3DTahoma><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10p=
t; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT   size=3D2 face=3DTah=
oma><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A   title=
=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksh=
eep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style=3D"BACKGROUND: whitesmoke" class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT size=3D=
2   face=3DTahoma><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10p=
t; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT   size=3D2 face=
=3DTahoma><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> LF: Th=
rob=20
-2- Beacon running on 503.000 center=20
frequency<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN  =
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Throb 2 beacon on 503.000&nbsp;=20
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN  =
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">running&nbsp; :&nbsp; fldigi , throb=
=20
mode -2- center&nbsp; frequency&nbsp; 503.000 Khz=20
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN  =
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">TX &nbsp;set USB , Rx 'on=20
during&nbsp; 60 second tx pause ,</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN  =
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Interested to&nbsp; see&nbsp; how=20
the&nbsp; mode prints / recovers &nbsp;in the&nbsp; noise / qsb&nbsp;=
=20
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN  =
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Reports=20
welcome</SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;<FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">,</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P=
></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN  =
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Tnx -=20
Graham</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">G0NBD</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></D=
IV>
<DIV>
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 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: center" class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter><FO=
NT size=3D3   face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"=
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN  =
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR>No virus found in this incoming message=
.<BR>Checked=20
by AVG - <A href=3D"http://www.avg.com">www.avg.com</A> <BR>Version:=
 8.5.421 /=20
Virus Database: 270.14.5/2419 - Release Date: 10/07/09=20
05:18:00<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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NT size=3D3   face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"=
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN  =
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.<BR>Checked=20
by AVG - www.avg.com <BR>Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.5/2=
419 -=20
Release Date: 10/07/09 05:18:00<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P>
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<P></P><BR>No virus found in this incoming message.<BR>Checked by AVG=
 -=20
www.avg.com <BR>Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.5/2419 - Rel=
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czesc Marcin, ( bedzie po polsku  :)  )
dosyc pozno wlaczylem sprzet  jednakze udalo mi sie odebrac twoj sygnal 
na 137 khz
wyjatkowo nie mialem dzis zaklocen  no i  odebralem "KDS"  o 2250 utc - 
obrazek w zalaczniku
vfo mam usawione na 137.780  zas BFO na  600 Hz  sygnal jest na 602 a 
ze  bfo  jest od gory wiec wychodzi
na 137.778 kHz  podstawa czasu w spectranie tak dobrana zeby qrss60 
wygladalo sensownie  reszta obrazkow juz jutro bezposrednim
mail'em
                                serdecznie pozdrawiam, Piotr, sq7mpj
qth: Lodz /jo91rs/


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Hello Andrey,    LF
I think that You are right,
best 73s
Henny pa3cpm
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
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> Henny, John, Jean-Pierre,
> Possibly, it OE5ODL...
> OE5ODL at 00.35 (my capture, 3s-window): 
> http://rn3agc.msk.ru/136-3/0910270034-oe5odl-3.jpg
> Signal in 3s (my capture): 
> http://rn3agc.msk.ru/filez/091027-signal-rn3agc.jpg
> On capture it is possible to read a callsign (capture from Henny): 
> http://rn3agc.msk.ru/filez/091027-signal-pa3cpm.jpg
>
> 73 Andrey
>
>
>> Hello J-P,John,Andrey,
>> also here the big signal,
>> best 73s
>> henny pa3cpm
>> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden 
>> verzonden:
>> strange big signal 27-10.jpg
>>
>> Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen 
>> het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde
>> bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw 
>> e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden
>> afgehandeld.
>>
>
>


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Hello John, Jean-Pierre, LF,
I too have received this signal: http://rn3agc.msk.ru/filez/091027-signal.jpg .
779.1-UA9CS

73 Andrey


Hi John ,
Yes it is a strange signal ! I do not see what that can be . Between
Markus and me there is more than 800 km , therefore this signal was very
powerful ! .....
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

John Andrews a écrit :
> Jean-Pierre,
>
> Thanks for the report.
>
> I was watching the F1AFJ and DF6NM grabbers tonight in the 0100-0200 UTC period. There was an interesting signal that swept 
> through both screens... certainly not a local QRP event to appear at both locations. See:
>
> http://www.w1tag.com/files/F1AFJ.jpg
> http://www.w1tag.com/files/DF6NM.jpg
>
> John, W1TAG
>
> Jean-Pierre Méré (F1AFJ) wrote:
>> Hello John ,
>>
>> I copy your beacon last night (00:00>01:30utc)
>>
>> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>>
>>
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hallo claude many thanks fer nice qso es  bic here
your signal is very strong comming up 25 db over nois !
73 and cuagn de ossy

Claude Berthebaud schrieb:
> HI Oswald and LF
> good morning wald..
> very good copy trong signal in 137 khz
> many thanks for the qso and gud week and
> Claude F8boj JN16WA
>
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hallo szigy
copy yo2x beacon on 505.74 with 15 to 20 db over noise  here in jn68rd
oe5odl  73 de ossi

Szigy schrieb:
> From: YO2IS
>   Pleased to receive today a nice QSL, from G3KEV, Mal,
>  confirming our crossband CW QSO 502.5 / 7033 KHz.
>  It's a first one for me and a new one for YO ...
>   Will randomly run the YO2X beacon testing the setup.
>  QRG 505.763 KHz, 41m sloping wire and abt 100W input
>  PIC keyer in QRSS3 and CW id.
>   Some 137.7 KHz activity is also planned depending on
>  the level of the urban QRM. Have to test for 137 KHz
>  reception, the K9AY loop versus the tunned multiturn-
>  loop located under the roof etc.
>   BTW, some days ago got the 'RSGB 136KHz Award' #10
>  for 6 confirmed DXCC entities ( 3 on CW, 3 on QRSS3 ).
>   Hope the cold weather will bring more trafic on VLF.
>     73 & DX, Szigy.
>
>
>   


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Tu,Uwe,
best 73s
Henny pa3cpm.
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Hi Henny,
nice and strong signs in jo43sv.
pse see attachment.
regards
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hi.... all
Error sorry
Beacon "BOJ" is for 10H18......UTC
137776.20 hz in QRSS 60
excuse my
Claude F8boj JN16WA

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Thanks for your comments Mal, I did wonder if such an approach was wis=
e. Let's see what others have to say on the matter. I also have my sus=
picions about FETs in class D and the level of crud that could result.
Thanks again.
Chris, G4AYT.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: mal hamilton=20
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  Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 2:49 PM
  Subject: LF: Re: AF Amps at 136


  Chris=20
  Do  not use audio amps for RF. Build a class D or E amp and operate=
 trouble free. Audio amps were tried by some in the early days but nev=
er worked properly.=20
  Read the horror stories of yesteryears about using audio amps for RF=
 applications. Buckets of burnt out FETS.
  73 De Mal/g3kev

    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Chris=20
    To: RSGB LF Group=20
    Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 2:13 PM
    Subject: LF: AF Amps at 136


    Hi All,
    Just started constructing TX for 136kHz, noticed Maplin do a Velle=
man audio PA kit that is rated at 200W (100W RMS into 4R). OK there's=
 no mains transformer or heat sink, but reckon it's good value at =A31=
4.99. Point is the specs also say the minus 3db frequency response is=
 3Hz / 200kHz.
    The RSGB books 'LF Today' refer to using audio amps as PAs at 136=
 with 'a few modifications'. Does anybody know where these modificatio=
ns are documented? I guess there's nothing major, reduce a few cap val=
ues? Remove Zobel Network etc.?? If anyone has experience with this ap=
proach I would appreciate some hints. Thanks.
    Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable.


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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks for your comments Mal, I did=
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have my suspicions about FETs in class D and the level of crud that=20
could&nbsp;result.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks again.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Chris, G4AYT.</FONT></DIV>
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 136</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Chris </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Do&nbsp; not use audio amps for RF.=
 Build a class=20
  D or E amp and operate trouble free. Audio amps were tried by some=
 in the=20
  early days but never worked properly. </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Read the horror stories of yesterye=
ars about=20
  using audio amps for RF applications. Buckets of burnt out FETS.</FO=
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    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Hi All,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Just started constructing TX for=
 136kHz,=20
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00W RMS=20
    into 4R). OK there's no mains transformer or heat sink, but reckon=
 it's good=20
    value at =A314.99. Point is the specs also say the minus 3db&nbsp;=
frequency=20
    response is 3Hz&nbsp;/ 200kHz.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>The RSGB books 'LF Today' refer=
 to using audio=20
    amps as PAs at 136 with 'a few modifications'. Does anybody know=
 where these=20
    modifications are documented? I guess there's nothing major, reduc=
e a few=20
    cap values? Remove Zobel Network etc.?? If anyone has experience=
 with this=20
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good signal from oh5ufo on 137.703 dfcw3  10 db o. n.
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Hi Chris -

I built a linear PA for 136 kHz (I wanted it linear so as to run=20
PSK31). It uses
four bipolar output transistors (two MJ15003 and two MJ15004) in complemen=
t
ary
parallel/push-pull class AB. I drive them with two other transistors (2SD1=
4
59
and 2SB1037) in darlington configuration - ie a simple "AF amplifier" type=
=20
of
circuit. The whole lot is fed from a TDA2030. It produces a peak output of=
=20
150
watts (from a dual 32 volt supply) and has withstood all sorts of abuse.
However it is only 40% efficient (I suspect this may be due to the slew=20
rate of
the power transistors).

"AF amplifiers" can work!

Regards - Brian (G3YKB)

Quoting Chris <c.ashby435@btinternet.com>:

> Hi All,
> Just started constructing TX for 136kHz, noticed Maplin do a Velleman=20
> audio PA kit that is rated at 200W (100W RMS into 4R). OK there's no=20
> mains transformer or heat sink, but reckon it's good value at =A314.99.=
=20
> Point is the specs also say the minus 3db frequency response is 3Hz /=20
> 200kHz.
> The RSGB books 'LF Today' refer to using audio amps as PAs at 136=20
> with 'a few modifications'. Does anybody know where these=20
> modifications are documented? I guess there's nothing major, reduce a=20
> few cap values? Remove Zobel Network etc.?? If anyone has experience=20
> with this approach I would appreciate some hints. Thanks.
> Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable.



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Hi LF,
Looks like some electrical storms in western Europe causing almost total
wipe-out of the grabbers here.

Also lots of loud static crashes on 136kHz.

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Hi LF,<div><br></div><div>Looks like some electrical storms in western Europe causing almost total wipe-out of the grabbers here.</div><div><br></div><div>Also lots of loud static crashes on 136kHz.</div><div><br></div><div>
73</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT</div>

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Mal,
More or less freely here: 500.0-502.3 and 503.1-504.0.
But also here in some places there are bad-lines.
Inform me frequencies which you can establish.
And I here will look, whether they are free.

73 Andrey



> Andrey
> What would be a good FREQ for reception on 500?
> We could try earlier in the day
> de mal/g3kev
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
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> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 8:26 PM
> Subject: LF: Re: Re: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz
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> 
>> Mal,
>> If here there was no this svc-station, your qrss3-signal would be visible 
>> also in the afternoon :)
>> For certain.
>>
>> 73 Andrey
>>
>>>
>>> Andrey
>>> I can not see any problem my signal is vy clear and strong on ur GRABBER
>>> tonite
>>> tnx de mal/g3kev
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 7:56 PM
>>> Subject: LF: Re: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz
>>>
>>>
>>>> Mal,
>>>> Your signal here is almost in the centre of a spectrum of powerful
>>>> broadband SVC-station.
>>>> It is a pity that you do not have possibility to replace frequency...
>>>>
>>>> 73 Andrey
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Andrey can see my sig solid copy on ur GRABBER
>>>>> TNX MAL
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
>>>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:36 PM
>>>>> Subject: LF: Re: Re: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Mal,
>>>>>> I have already switched on the grabber on your frequency.
>>>>>> The grabber will work on 500 khz to ~21z....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the night from 1.30 till 2.45 observed someone's wspr-signals on
>>>>>> 503850.
>>>>>> The signals was not decoded.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73 Andrey
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Andrey
>>>>>>> Pse look at 502.57 starting at 1800 utc CW and QRS3
>>>>>>> De mal/g3kev
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
>>>>>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 6:45 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: LF: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello LF'ers,
>>>>>>>> QRV RCV today WSPR-beacons on 500 kHz (503850+/-) till the morning.
>>>>>>>> Also QRSS3 above frequency 502.350. If someone is going to work in
>>>>>>>> QRSS3-mode,
>>>>>>>> please inform your frequency.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 73 Andrey
>>
>>
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Hello LF

Not sure if I can beleive my ears but it sounds like a QSO between G3XIZ=
 and
ON/F6CNI/P taking place on 502.4kHz. G3XIZ is strong but I hear weak CW as=
 if
ON/F6CNI/P is working him on the same QRG.

73

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
Vaasa / KP03SD


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Hello Vernon,

tuning frequency is 502.4kHz USB mode.
I will run a WSPR beacon tonight (20-24UTC).

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T



At 16:38 29/10/2009, you wrote:
>Hi everyone.....what dial frequency is everyone using for 500khz wspr....I
>finally have my long wires out and have been monitoring. I can leave WSPR
>running almost 24/7 to see if I can catch a WSPR signal from across the
>pond. I did catch a couple last year which was great!!!
>
>Regards,
>
>Vernon - VE1VDM
>FN85ij



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Hello LF,

Will active this evening 24 Sat from 19Z in QSO mode 137710 QRSS3.
Maybe a few hours later will give some "GB" on 137776 QRSS30 if 
temperature in my LF shack will good enough for me (+5C now).
1.5A antenna current in T-vertical 16 m high 80 m horizontal long.

73! EW6GB in KO45CN


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Walter

I've just started monitoring WSPR at 19:54UTC on 503.590 dial from Shetland

I hope to see your sigs soon. Spots are being uploaded to wspr.net


John
GM4SLV
IP90gg

Walter und Marianne Staubach wrote:
> DI2AG is now in WSPR. TX QRG 505.090, Dial 503.590. Pwr 0.5W ERP.
> Please listen to my beacon.
> 
> 73   Walter    DI2AG / DJ2LF
> 
> 


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Claude,

I copied the attached signal in the 2230-2245 period, well before local sunset. The Loran line is at 776.104. 

John, W1TAG
(in Maine at FN43sv)

---- Claude Berthebaud <f8boj@club-internet.fr> wrote: 
> GM Laurence
> I passed this evening "BOJ" on the frequency 137776.12hz in qrss 60 
>  I started transmission at 18h you Finally just to finish at 10.40 you ... this is my transmission on the grabber of RN3AGC ... 
> Claude F8boj JN16WA .....
> 
> .
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China 
>   To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 
>   Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 12:43 AM
>   Subject: LF: 137.7761 and a bit
> 
> 
>    
>   Got this just before dawn - wasnt looking at 137 overnight but switched pre dawn here in China. 
>    
>   Dcf39/Mag are way over S9 on a quiet band so I would expect to see Eu sigs with 1W ERP or around on a good day. Looks like another at 777.9 too but very weak.
>    
>   ps also saw some UNID traces on 503.6khz qrss3 but 500 wasnt so good here as 137kHz
>    
>   Laurence KL1 X in BY3A OM89UA China
>   R75 Probe at 80 ft or so.
>    
>   ps time on trace in GMT  was at end point not when sig seen.
>    
>    
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Roger Lapthorn wrote:
> You did very well for your first try with WSPR 


??? No skill was involved on my part. I simply downloaded the software, 
followed the instructions and went to bed!

73

Richard
G3CWI


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Hello LF!
Both WSPR stations, M0BMU and SM6BHZ, are very good visible here.

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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Not sure if this is a first for me, but I'm happy nonetheless:

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18:40 UTC now calling CQ on 137.710 in QRS3, 73 de Toni


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VK2ZTO wrote:

> From the links on the Google site I get the following results.
> 
> 1. GM4SLV - last grab Jan 2009.

Steve, LF

I've stopped running a grabber 24/7, it tied up equipment I wanted for 
other purposes. I can run one on an ad-hoc basis to aid people for 
specific tests if requested though!

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My QRP beacon is running this evening. Reports welcomed.

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Dear all,

it is a bit off topic but maybe interesting to some:

 From 16-20 November there is the 6th European=20
Space Weather Week in Bruges (Belgium), see=20
http://sidc.oma.be/esww6/index.php .
Although the primary audience is "professional"=20
some of the lecture are interesting for radio=20
amateurs, as the organizers state:

Special Note:
Radio amateurs with a license to operate are also=20
welcome to the conference and will get a=20
discount. Radio Amateurs are requested to send a=20
copy of their license to=20
<http://sidc.oma.be/esww6/esa.conference@esa.int>esa.conference@esa.int=20
within one week after registration. Registration=20
as a Radio Amateur includes access to scientific=20
sessions on Tuesday and Wednesday only. The=20
reduced fee is 50 =80. Attendance to the reception=20
and conference dinner is not included. The=20
deadline for online <http://sidc.oma.be/esww6/=20
https://participants.congrex.com/scripts/jmevent/Registration.asp?Client_I=
d=3D'CXNL'&Project_Id=3D'09c20'&Form_Id=3D1&Form_Number=3D2&Stand_Id=3D0&A=
=3D&Language_Code=3D&template_id=3D>registration=20
for hams is October 19.

In addition I received a mail from Juha-Pekka=20
Luntama  (Space Situational Awareness Programme,=20
Space Weather Manager,  ESA). He is interested to=20
find a radio amateur who wants to give a talk:

I am organising a splinter meeting titled as=20
Ionospheric Effects Topical Group during the 6th=20
European Space Weather Week. I would be=20
interested on inviting you or somebody else from=20
the HAMS community to give a small presentation=20
about the ionospheric effects on radio signal=20
propagation from the HAMS point of view.
I would like to be in contact with ppl who are=20
planning to participate the meeting and who would=20
be interested to give a presentation. It is also=20
prefectly possible to have more than one person=20
(maybe 1-2) to give the talk. The interesting=20
topic would be the HAMS perspective and e.g. do=20
you use existing space weather services or other=20
information to predict when conditions suitable=20
for your long distance communication links might exist.

73, Rik   ON7YD - OR7T=20

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Dear all,<br><br>
it is a bit off topic but maybe interesting to some:<br><br>
 From 16-20 November there is the 6th European Space Weather Week in
Bruges (Belgium), see
<a href=3D"http://sidc.oma.be/esww6/index.php" eudora=3D"autourl">
http://sidc.oma.be/esww6/index.php</a> .<br>
Although the primary audience is &quot;professional&quot; some of the
lecture are interesting for radio amateurs, as the organizers
state:<br><br>
<font color=3D"#0000FF"><i>Special Note: <br>
Radio amateurs with a license to operate are also welcome to the
conference and will get a discount. Radio Amateurs are requested to send
a copy of their license to
<a href=3D"http://sidc.oma.be/esww6/esa.conference@esa.int">
esa.conference@esa.int</a> within one week after registration.
Registration as a Radio Amateur includes access to scientific sessions on
Tuesday and Wednesday only. The reduced fee is 50 =80. Attendance to the
reception and conference dinner is not included. The deadline for online
<a href=3D"http://sidc.oma.be/esww6/ https://participants.congrex.com/scri=
pts/jmevent/Registration.asp?Client_Id=3D'CXNL'&amp;Project_Id=3D'09c20'&a=
mp;Form_Id=3D1&amp;Form_Number=3D2&amp;Stand_Id=3D0&amp;A=3D&amp;Language_=
Code=3D&amp;template_id=3D">
registration</a> for hams is October 19. <br><br>
</i></font>In addition I received a mail from <font size=3D2>Juha-Pekka
Luntama</font>&nbsp; (<font size=3D2>Space Situational Awareness Programme=
,
Space Weather Manager,&nbsp; ESA). He is interested to find a radio
amateur who wants to give a talk:<br><br>
</font><font color=3D"#0000FF"><i>I am organising a splinter meeting title=
d
as Ionospheric Effects Topical Group during the 6th European Space
Weather Week. I would be interested on inviting you or somebody else from
the HAMS community to give a small presentation about the ionospheric
effects on radio signal propagation from the HAMS point of view. <br>
I would like to be in contact with ppl who are planning to participate
the meeting and who would be interested to give a presentation. It is
also prefectly possible to have more than one person (maybe 1-2) to give
the talk. The interesting topic would be the HAMS perspective and e.g. do
you use existing space weather services or other information to predict
when conditions suitable for your long distance communication links might
exist. <br><br>
</i></font>73, Rik&nbsp;&nbsp; ON7YD - OR7T</body>
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Hello Pete,
Thanks for watching & the capture.

73

Gary - G4WGT.

2009/10/11 M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>

>    Hi Gary And LF
>>
>> You are very strong wth me note qsb at 21:27. Trace from Winrad.
>>
>> 73 petefmt
>>
>
>
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Hello Pete,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for watching &amp; the capture.</div=
><div><br></div><div>73</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT.<br><br><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/11 M0FMT <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk">m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0=
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<blockquote style=3D"border-left:#ccc 1px solid;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;p=
adding-left:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div>Hi Gary And LF</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>You are very strong wth me note qsb at 21:27. Trace from Winrad.</div=
>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>73 petefmt=A0</div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></blockquote></=
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Curious UNID signal centred on 137.705 kHz, captured at 2130, but has=
 been coming and goinf for several hours. U I thiught that it might ha=
ve been local to me, but I see it on Markus's grabber too.

73m Dave G3WCB IO91RM





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Dear LF

 

Is Grimeton on the air this weekend on 17.2?   Would I be able to hear it on
my "fair to middlin'" 500KHz antenna or my shiny new Mini Whip or do I need
to wind the coil from hell!!??

 

With best regards

 

 

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GB4FPR   Cw test  at  1600 to  1700 utc to day .. put out a few  cqs=
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no takers for the  call's ...did any one  copy the  signal just  below=
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Alan,
> Ah Warren you mis-interpreted that picture!! it was a Reliant Robin fitt=
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> to the base of a 160m whip :-))

   There will always be an England!
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73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1


On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Alan Melia <alan.melia@btinternet.com> wr=
ote:
> Ah Warren you mis-interpreted that picture!! it was a Reliant Robin fitt=
ed
> to the base of a 160m whip :-))
>
> Alan G3NYK
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 2:50 AM
> Subject: Re: LF: OT: Reliants
>
>
> Many years ago there was a picture in QST of a Robin Reliant fitted
> for 160 meter mobile operation with a large antenna - very comical!
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WD2XGJ
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WD2XSH/23
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WE2XEB/2
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WE2XGR/1
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 6:11 PM, John RABSON <john.rabson@numeo.fr> wrot=
e:
>> On 23/10/2009 at 21:54 Graham wrote:
>>
>>>> *** 'crazy'? That's nothing. According to UK automobile regulations,
>>>the
>>>> Reliant Robin (a 3-wheeled vehicle with a fully enclosed fibreglass
>>>body)
>>>> is a motorcycle
>>
>> I should have put motor tricycle.
>>
>>>Oh no its not ... Its a motorcycle combination .. ie motorcycle with
>>>a side car .and has 3 wheels ... with only one driven . just happens
>>
>> According to the registration documents for my Reliants, they were moto=
r
> tricycles. A motorcycle combination would have been a motor bicycle with
> sidecar.
>>
>> John F5VLF
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

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When mine=92s not on 500 it is watching 5649/5616/5598 Shanwick Aeradi=
o and
the Gander Freqs on 8.8xx and is a lot better than my dipole I also us=
e for
these. The noise level creeps up in the evening a little but not so mu=
ch as
to cause grief.   My Rx is an old JRC 505 which has v good sensitivity=
 at
LF/MF of around 1uV on cw/ssb.   My 515 is also good down here. =20

=20

Mine is on the end of my garage on top of a 5m alloy pole and then top=
ped
with 2 metres of wood.  Feeder is about 25m of RG58 back to the bias=
 t in
the shack.

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=20

=20

With best regards

=20

=20

Jim

=20

=20

Dr. James Cowburn

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
Sent: 21 October 2009 18:38
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Best receiving antenna wanted

=20

Hi Horst, Jim, LF,

=20

Same here, I have used a PA0RDT Mini-Whip active antenna for a good wh=
ile
now & it's performance is very good right down to 10kHz, may even go=
 lower
if I knew what to look for !!!

=20

My online grabbers use the Mini-Whip antenna.

=20

73,

=20

Gary - G4WGT.

2009/10/21 James Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.net>

Hi Horst

I've just installed one of Roelof Bakker's (PA0RDT) active mini whips=
 and it
is excellent at my QTH.  Just my view, others may have different exper=
iences

With best regards


Jim


Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Horst St=F6ck=
er
Sent: 21 October 2009 17:26
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Best receiving antenna wanted

Hello,
now that I am happy with my selectiv level meter Praecitronic MV-62 I=
 am
looking for the best receicing antenna.
Especially I am interested in 400khz, 136kHz, 72kHz and below 22 kHz.=
 With
my 40m longwire reception is not good enough and with a frame antenna=
 of
900m copper wire it was disappointing, too..
I think, an active antenna for 0 to 500 MHz would be the best for me=
 - but I
am looking forward to any other idea.
vy73 Horst DO1KHS
_______________________________________________________________
Neu: WEB.DE DSL bis 50.000 kBit/s und 200,- Euro Startguthaben!
http://produkte.web.de/go/02/




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watching 5649/5616/5598 Shanwick Aeradio and the Gander Freqs on 8.8xx=
 and is a
lot better than my dipole I also use for these. The noise level creeps=
 up in
the evening a little but not so much as to cause grief. =A0=A0My Rx is=
 an old JRC
505 which has v good sensitivity at LF/MF of around 1uV on cw/ssb. =A0=
=A0My 515 is
also good down here.=A0 <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Mine is on the=
 end of my garage on top of
a 5m alloy pole and then topped with 2 metres of wood.=A0 Feeder is ab=
out 25m of
RG58 back to the bias t in the shack.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Gary - G4WGT<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 21 October 2009=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size:  12.0pt'>Same here, I have used a PA0RDT Mini-Whip ac=
tive antenna for a good
while now &amp; it's performance is very good right down to 10kHz, may=
 even go
lower if I knew what to look for !!!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size:  12.0pt'>My online grabbers use the Mini-Whip antenna=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D3  fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Hi Horst<br>
<br>
I've just installed one of Roelof Bakker's (PA0RDT) active mini whips=
 and it<br>
is excellent at my QTH. &nbsp;Just my view, others may have different
experiences<br>
<br>
With best regards<br>
<br>
<br>
Jim<br>
<br>
<br>
Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">owner-rsgb=
_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a><br>
[mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">owner-rs=
gb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>]
On Behalf Of Horst St=F6cker<br>
Sent: 21 October 2009 17:26<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</a><br>
Subject: LF: Best receiving antenna wanted<br>
<br>
Hello,<br>
now that I am happy with my selectiv level meter Praecitronic MV-62 I=
 am<br>
looking for the best receicing antenna.<br>
Especially I am interested in 400khz, 136kHz, 72kHz and below 22 kHz.=
 With<br>
my 40m longwire reception is not good enough and with a frame antenna=
 of<br>
900m copper wire it was disappointing, too..<br>
I think, an active antenna for 0 to 500 MHz would be the best for me=
 - but I<br>
am looking forward to any other idea.<br>
vy73 Horst DO1KHS<br>
_______________________________________________________________<br>
Neu: <a href=3D"http://WEB.DE" target=3D"_blank">WEB.DE</a> DSL bis 50=
.000 kBit/s
und 200,- Euro Startguthaben!<br>
<a href=3D"http://produkte.web.de/go/02/" target=3D"_blank">http://pro=
dukte.web.de/go/02/</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Henny,
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2009/10/6 henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>:
> Hello Warren,LF
> Nice capture XGJ
> Henny pa3cpm
> best 73s
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden
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Dear all,

around 22.20 UTC on October 13th, 2009 G3LDO audible in QRSS RST 579 fb
in JN68GN, eastern Bavaria.

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB


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Lots of acty on 160m CW at present 1540 utc RZ3AM plus ES1, OH, UT3 al=
l good signals. Looks good for DX on 600 m if anyone is about
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Dear all,

G3LDO, in slower QRSS than before, again audible 579, QRN low, in
eastern Bavaria, JN68GN, around 21,30 UTC on 501,1 kHz (I needed some
time to count out the lengths of dots and dashes; still no visual
reception here).

Next weekend Germany will change to winter time; then just 1 hour
difference to UTC here.

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB


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From: YO2IS
 Hi Dex, you can find more information about the 314m BC tower
 searching with the Google for: LAKIHEGYI TOWER.
 The tower is still in use broadcasting on 540 KHz KOSUTH RADIO
 with an impressive 2 MW !.
 Some more info I found in the hungarian TECHNIKAI LEXIKON ed. 1927
 
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Thank you Andrey!
XGJ will be off tonight.


-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
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                WE2XGR/1





On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Andrey rn3agc <rn3agc@mail.ru> wrote:
> Hello Warren, Henny, LF,
> Capture at 01.05z.
> More poorly, than in two last nights(
>
> 73 Andrey
>
>
>> Hi Warren,LF
>> Capture XGJ
>> Henny cpm
>> best 73s
>>
>


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Indeed, I dare say they were at yours but I have a rubbish RX system built
on the sandy premises of hope, optimism and compromise!!

Chewing gum and sealing wax are my friends!!

With best regards
 
 
Jim G7NKS
 
 
Dr. James Cowburn
E james.cowburn@virgin.net
 

-----Original Message-----
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On 5 Oct 2009 at 21:09, James Cowburn wrote:

> OZ8NJ Niels in QSO with G3XPU  Clive at my loc io92ub between 20.30 BST
> and 21.00 BST both 577

577????? They were both 579, beautiful tone, here in IO91PJ Bracknell.

Dave

http://www.davesergeant.com




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Chris=20
Do  not use audio amps for RF. Build a class D or E amp and operate tr=
ouble free. Audio amps were tried by some in the early days but never=
 worked properly.=20
Read the horror stories of yesteryears about using audio amps for RF=
 applications. Buckets of burnt out FETS.
73 De Mal/g3kev

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Hi All,
  Just started constructing TX for 136kHz, noticed Maplin do a Vellema=
n audio PA kit that is rated at 200W (100W RMS into 4R). OK there's no=
 mains transformer or heat sink, but reckon it's good value at =A314.9=
9. Point is the specs also say the minus 3db frequency response is 3Hz=
 / 200kHz.
  The RSGB books 'LF Today' refer to using audio amps as PAs at 136 wi=
th 'a few modifications'. Does anybody know where these modifications=
 are documented? I guess there's nothing major, reduce a few cap value=
s? Remove Zobel Network etc.?? If anyone has experience with this appr=
oach I would appreciate some hints. Thanks.
  Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable.


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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi All,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just started constructing TX for 13=
6kHz, noticed=20
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to 4R). OK=20
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Tnx Ossi
for report from Austria
mal/g3kev
----- Original Message ----- 
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> g3kev 30 db over nois here in jn68rd
> 73 de oe5odl ossi
>


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Vernon

We are  using   502.400 usb dial frequency  in uk and eu .. the  top section 
of the  uk 501-504 allocation , g4jnt wspr  24/7 beacon is also  established 
in this  section

73 - G ..

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>
> Hi everyone.....what dial frequency is everyone using for 500khz wspr....I
> finally have my long wires out and have been monitoring. I can leave WSPR
> running almost 24/7 to see if I can catch a WSPR signal from across the
> pond. I did catch a couple last year which was great!!!
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The stong signal it's F8BOJ.
 
73 de F4DTL  Nicolas

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Hello Graham,

 

>> sri, sri, statics are too strong this night, I had to switch off the
Rx...

I hope condx will better tomorrow.

No problem at all in monitoring both signal,  PSK31 and Thorb-2;

I have made a short test some minutes ago and can see both signals and
BPSK31 was managing some "decoding attemps".

>> And in parallel I am monitoring Andy's WSPR-beacon with -24 dB !!! as a
signal level reference.

Signals are poor this evening in comparison to our PSK31 some days ago.

 

Hope to meet again you tomorrow on 503 kHz.

 

vy 73 de Gerhard  //  DK6NI

 

 

 

 

  _____  

Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Oktober 2009 00:14
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: >>> PSK31 ADDED LF: Throb -2- on 503.000 AND PSK31 503.300 <<<<<<<<

 

Added  PSK31  on  503.300  , will be a  -3 dB  drop in peak level when in
simultaneous  TX due to  tx alc action 

 

503.000    throb -2-

503.300    PSK31 

 

    Tnx - G .. 

 

From: Graham <mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>  

Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 10:13 PM

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 

Subject: Re: LF: Throb -2- Beacon running on 503.000 center frequency

 

Thank you  for the  report Gerhard 

 

Be interested as to your  comments on the  decode , compared to the  psk qso


as it looks like the  condx are worse ? 

 

What is the  peak signal level ?

 

tnx - G 

 

 

From: Graham <mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>  

Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 6:52 PM

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 

Subject: LF: Throb -2- Beacon running on 503.000 center frequency

 

Throb 2 beacon on 503.000  

 

running  :  fldigi , throb mode -2- center  frequency  503.000 Khz 

 

TX  set USB , Rx 'on during  60 second tx pause ,

 

Interested to  see  how the  mode prints / recovers  in the  noise / qsb  

 

Reports welcome ,

 

Tnx - Graham

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at all in monitoring both signal,&nbsp; PSK31 and Thorb-2;<o:p></o:p><=
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I am monitoring <b><i><span style=3D'font-weight:bold;font-style:itali=
c'>Andy&#8217;s
WSPR-beacon with -24 dB !!! as a signal level reference</span></i></b>=
&#8230;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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2009 00:14<br>
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> &gt;&gt;&gt;=
 PSK31 ADDED
LF: Throb -2- on 503.000 AND PSK31 503.300 &lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt=
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ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Added&nbsp; PSK31&nbsp; on&nbsp; 503.30=
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a&nbsp; -3 dB&nbsp; drop in peak level when in simultaneous&nbsp; TX=
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to&nbsp; tx alc action </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>503.000&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;throb -2=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>503.300&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;PSK31 </=
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n style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a href=3D"mailto:g8f=
zk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk" title=3D"g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</a>
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Wednesday, October 07, 2009 10:13 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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 style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a href=3D"mailto:rsgb=
_lf_group@blacksheep.org" title=3D"rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_=
lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Re: LF:
Throb -2- Beacon running on 503.000 center frequency<o:p></o:p></span>=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Thank you&nbsp; for the&nbsp; report Ge=
rhard </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Be interested as to your&nbsp; comments=
 on the&nbsp; decode
, compared to the&nbsp; psk qso </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>as it looks like the&nbsp; condx are wo=
rse ? </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>What is the&nbsp; peak signal level ?</=
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n style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a href=3D"mailto:g8f=
zk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk" title=3D"g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><spa=
n style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
Wednesday, October 07, 2009 6:52 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span=
 style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a href=3D"mailto:rsgb=
_lf_group@blacksheep.org" title=3D"rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_=
lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>
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-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><=
span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> LF: Throb
-2- Beacon running on 503.000 center frequency<o:p></o:p></span></font=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Throb 2 beacon on 503.000&nbsp; </span>=
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ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>running&nbsp; :&nbsp; fldigi , throb mo=
de -2- center&nbsp;
frequency&nbsp; 503.000 Khz </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>TX &nbsp;set USB , Rx 'on during&nbsp;=
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ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Interested to&nbsp; see&nbsp; how the&n=
bsp; mode prints /
recovers &nbsp;in the&nbsp; noise / qsb&nbsp; </span></font><o:p></o:p=
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t size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Ar=
ial'>,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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Hello, LF

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210kms - brilliant!!! Thanks G0KTN.

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I am Fausto IK4NMF,=20
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I have search on the web without success.=20

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? Was it only  me who copied the  beacon ..... was a better  signal la=
st time ..  but how to  report it .. all I can find is  G0VSJ Shifnal=
=20

G ..=20

NB:  (I wonder if the  amazing CFA is still there  on top of the  hill=
 ?)


From: Graham=20
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To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: G0VSJ cw beacon 503.25=20


Getting a signal from G0VSJ  cw beacon on 503.25  , sig about S4 in io=
83lk
giving  qth as io82tp  .. I think was the beacon I picked up last week=
 , but stronger this time !

G .=20


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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>? Was it only&nbsp; me who copied the=
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..... was a better&nbsp; signal last time ..&nbsp; but how to&nbsp; re=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Getting a signal from G0VSJ&nbsp; cw=
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503.25&nbsp; , sig about S4 in io83lk</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>giving&nbsp; qth as io82tp&nbsp; ..=
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G'day John,

No worries. Understood.

Thanks for the info.

73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)

----- Original Message ----- 
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> VK2ZTO wrote:
> 
>> From the links on the Google site I get the following results.
>> 
>> 1. GM4SLV - last grab Jan 2009.
> 
> Steve, LF
> 
> I've stopped running a grabber 24/7, it tied up equipment I wanted for 
> other purposes. I can run one on an ad-hoc basis to aid people for 
> specific tests if requested though!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> John
> GM4SLV
> 
> -- 
> http://gm4slv.blogspot.com
> Clousta, Shetland
> IP90gg


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Horst/LF,

>On 23/10/2009 at 11:53 Horst St=F6cker wrote:

>If it's meant, that these frequencies are HAM radio frequencies in german=
y this is not correct.  Unfortunately the lowest HAM radio band for legal=
 amateur radio transmissions in germany is still 137 kHz.

>OMs who are transmitting on 404 or 505 kHz do this with a DI Callsign. DI=
 is for experimental stations and everyone - not just licensed radio amate=
urs - can apply for such a DI call. But it costs a lot of money over the=
 time. By definition DI is not HAM radio - crazy germans ;-)) ***  Horst=
 DO1KHS

Thank you for the info.  The article referred to was talking about the pos=
sible usefulness of frequencies near 500kHz for Cave Radio.  In most count=
ries this is not part of the Amateur Service, but as many cave radio enthu=
siasts are also radio amateurs it seemed a good idea to provide informatio=
n on other non-professional activities in that part of the spectrum.

73
John F5VLF

*** 'crazy'?  That's nothing.  According to UK automobile regulations, the=
 Reliant Robin (a 3-wheeled vehicle with a fully enclosed fibreglass body)=
 is a motorcycle



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Hi LF,
Strong signal JBO
Henny pa3cpm
73s
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi LF,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Strong signal JBO</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
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Hello Jim, LF!
Yes, 137kHz band was open and there were no QRN. I saw your DFCW signal when you had got QSO with DJ6GT yesterday morning. I made QSO with IK5ZPV and RU6LA. I saw F8BOJ and SO5AS as well. I am going to be active on 137kHz today, so I hope to see your signal again. We would try to do a QSO.

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Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency=20

TX set  502.000 USB
Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency=20

Repeat time 60  seconds =20

RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'  time=20

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Hello Nicolas, Henny,
Propagation now good, but the big level QRN because of thunder-storms in the Mediterranean.

73 Andrey




Thanx Henny,beacon to RN3AGC's grabber without success last night.

F4DTL Nicolas




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Hi LF,
Capture DTL
Henny pa3cpm
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Hello Niels!

579 now on 502.0kHz calling CQ at 1915UTC

Impressive Rtot value, a description of your antenna / earth would be
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73

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ


Quoting niels rudberg j=F8rgensen <niels.rudberg@post.tele.dk>:

> Hello LF group!
> Back on the band after a pause I last evening made a short
> cw call on 500 kHz resulting in a solid-copy qso with
> Mal, G3KEV. Several reports appeared on the reflector and
> I do appreciate the swift responses. Thank you all.
> My tx is now running about 550 Watts resulting in an
> antenna current of 6.4 Amps which brings the resistive
> component of my antenna impedance astonishing close to
> the figure of 3.5 Ohm which I remember was a requirement
> in the old days when I worked with the design of marine
> radio equipment! As far as ERP is regarded I reckon I am
> fairly close to the power limit of 13 dBW I was granted.
> Trying to be active in the evenings after 19 UTC for cw-contacts.
> Sorry at the present not to be able to make cross-band qsos as
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> 73
> OZ8NJ  Niels+




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Marcin
Can u work xband I will TX 502.57 qrs3 and I will QSX 137.7=20
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  Hi LF!
  Station SP2KDS will be work today,
  Operation in QRSS will start from 19:00 UTC on 137.700kHz (QRRS3) an=
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  Vy 73!
  Marcin SQ2BXI


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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Station SP2KDS will&nbsp;be work=20
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hi LF
137776.20hz BOJ qrss 60...21h18 TU
Claude F8boj JN16WA

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Hi Peter!

Looking 501.1 ? Right?
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Hello Warren, Henny, LF,
Capture at 01.05z.
More poorly, than in two last nights(

73 Andrey


> Hi Warren,LF
> Capture XGJ
> Henny cpm
> best 73s
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Hi John.

>Hi Marcus,
>
>Very interesting.  What software are you using with the sound card,=
 please?
>
>73,
>John Rabson
>F5VLF
>58800 Cervon
>France
>JN17vg

It's a nice software written by G3PLX, Peter, named GPS Locked LORAN=
=20
Receiver.

It uses the pps from a gps receiver applied to the LF rig antenna inpu=
t at=20
very low levels as time & frequency reference source.

The software finds this pulses and uses them to lock the sound card sa=
mple=20
rate timing and audio center frequency (1750Hz nominal) to gps pps.

Requires a stable LF rig with 1Hz frequency accuracy tuned to 98.25KHz=
 on=20
USB, the widest IF filter avialable (300 ... 3000). The PC clock must=
 be=20
locked to any NTP server or any other method that keeps the PC time ac=
curate=20
to 1 second or less.

There is a built in Loran chain database where the GPS itself is the=
 GRI=20
10000 and have the same lat/lon as the receiveing station. Using this=
=20
database & station lat/lon it calculates and overlap the screen mask=
 for the=20
chain currently monitored.

Several other measurements such as TOA, phase and relative amplitude=
 of the=20
received signals, a simple log feature or screen shots (scope & waterf=
all)=20
manual save exists on it.

It's being modified and tested for some time now and in few days there=
 will=20
be a link to download it.

73
Marcus Ramos
PY3CRX/PY2PLL
LAT -23.765116=B0 / LON -46.553797=B0
S=E3o Bernardo do Campo - SP
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Hi Mal,
I did not expect that I will see your signal in such early evening.
capture at 18.21z

73 Andrey


> Nw qrv 502.57 CW and QRS3 as appropriate for QSO also QSX 7033 for DX QSO's
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Warren
Great propagation around EU and Russia at present on 500. I have been copied 
in Russia and eastern EU while daylight here, also 160m is good with daytime 
reception and QSO'S as far as the Moscow area
Probably good to the west but not sure if anyone is monitoring in the USA 
during evening time here.
73 de mal/g3kev

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>I have noted that Alan Melia has not updated his propagation  report
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---
There is no 'chance' involved.  The strong source coding employed in all the
WSJT modes to get the number of bits to be encoded down to an absolute
minimum, before proper error correction is added, removes all wasted
redundancy in the original callsign format.   This has the result that most
*truly random* bit patterns will therefore generate a valid looking
callsign.  Its an artefact of efficient coding.

That this only happens occasionally is due to the strong properly
constructed error correction that is subsequently added.

* BUT*    As the callsign is not encoded in the most efficient way it could
possibly be (which would be a codebook of all the radio-ams in the world  =
1 million perhaps with a 20 bit reference number) we identify an invalid
callsign by experience, and by correlating with known propagation / locator
facts.

Information theory is a wonderful study - and being able to be put into
practice more easily with cheap processing power than it ever was before.
I'll be covering this, amongst other aspects of weak signalling, at the
Martlesham Microwave Roundtable.  http://mmrt.homedns.org/start.html   (talk
entitled 6dB better than CW.)

Andy
www.g4jnt.com

this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny state


2009/10/24 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>

>  Roger
>
> This happened ..
>
> G ,,
>
>   Timestamp Call MHz SNR Drift Grid Pwr Reporter RGrid km az  2009-10-24
> 16:58   G3XBM   0.503917   -28   0   JO02dg   0.001   G0NBD   IO83   261
>  302
>
>  *From:* Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 24, 2009 4:55 PM
> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> *Subject:* LF: 500kHz 1mW WSPR beaconing
>
> This will be active periodically over the weekend. It would be nice to get
> a few new reporters spotting me.
>
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM
>
> --
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
> http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
> G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088
>
> ------------------------------
>
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<div>There is no &#39;chance&#39; involved.=A0 The strong source coding em=
ployed in all the WSJT modes to get the=A0number of bits to be encoded dow=
n to an absolute minimum, before proper error correction is added,=A0remov=
es all wasted redundancy in the original callsign format.=A0=A0 This has=
 the result that most <u>truly random</u> bit patterns will therefore gene=
rate a valid looking callsign.=A0 Its an artefact of efficient coding.</di=
v>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>That this only happens occasionally is due to the strong properly con=
structed error correction that is subsequently added.=A0=A0 </div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div><strong>=A0BUT</strong> =A0=A0 As the callsign is not encoded in the=
 most efficient way it could possibly be (which would be a codebook of all=
 the radio-ams in the world=A0 =3D 1 million perhaps=A0with a 20 bit refer=
ence number) we identify an invalid callsign by experience, and by correla=
ting with known propagation / locator facts.=A0=A0</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>Information theory is a wonderful study - and being able to be put in=
to practice more easily with cheap processing power than it ever was befor=
e.=A0=A0 I&#39;ll be covering this, amongst other aspects of weak signalli=
ng, at the Martlesham Microwave Roundtable.=A0 <a href=3D"http://mmrt.home=
dns.org/start.html">http://mmrt.homedns.org/start.html</a>=A0=A0 (talk ent=
itled 6dB better than CW.)</div>

<div><br clear=3D"all">Andy<br><a href=3D"http://www.g4jnt.com">www.g4jnt.=
com</a><br><br>this email has been scanned for political correctness by th=
e nanny state<br><br><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/24 Graham <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk</a>&gt;</span>=
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<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Roger </font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">This happened ..</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">G ,,</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
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<table>
<tbody>
<tr>
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<th>Call</th>
<th>MHz</th>
<th>SNR</th>
<th>Drift</th>
<th>Grid</th>
<th>Pwr</th>
<th>Reporter</th>
<th>RGrid</th>
<th>km</th>
<th>az</th></tr>
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<td align=3D"left">=A0G3XBM=A0</td>
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<div style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<div><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"mailto:rogerlapthorn@gmail.com  CTRL + Click=
 to follow link" href=3D"mailto:rogerlapthorn@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank"=
>Roger Lapthorn</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 24, 2009 4:55 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org  CTRL + Cl=
ick to follow link" href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D=
"_blank">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> LF: 500kHz 1mW WSPR beaconing</div></div></div>
<div><br></div>This will be active periodically over the weekend. It would=
 be nice to get a few new reporters spotting me.<br><br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM=
<br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>---------------------------------------------=
----------------<br>
<a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://g3xbm-=
qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk/" target=3D"_bl=
ank">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL=
 G11088<br>
<p>
<hr>

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The aerial in KO86np: http://rn3agc.msk.ru/filez/ant-KO86np.gif

73 Andrey


> Hi Henny, LF!
> Henny, in the morning I have been pleasantly surprised, having seen your signal.
> Last night received also F8BOJ and UA9CS.
> The next night the grabber too will work. Further till Monday it is OFF.
> Tomorrow I leave in KO86NP. The receiver there will be included every
> evening from 21.00. I hope, the air there will be purer, than in Moscow.
> I will inform results SWL when I will return, on Sunday or Monday.
> Excuse me for bad English:)
> 
> 73 Andrey
> 
> 
>> Hi Andrey,LF,
>> TNX for the grabber,
>> antenne sloper,200 watt 2150km
>> Henny pa3cpm
>> best 73s
> 
> 
>


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Marcin,

thanks for the reports

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

At 21:33 23/10/2009, you wrote:
>Dear LF
>WSPR OR7T raport:
>1858 -14  0.7   0.503801  0 OR7T JO20 23
>1904  -9  0.8   0.503802  0 OR7T JO20 23
>1908 -13  1.0   0.503802  0 OR7T JO20 23
>1916  -8  1.0   0.503803  0 OR7T JO20 23
>1924 -11  0.9   0.503803  0 OR7T JO20 23
>1932 -19  0.8   0.503803  0 OR7T JO20 23
>1938 -14  1.0   0.503803  0 OR7T JO20 23
>1946 -13  0.9   0.503804  0 OR7T JO20 23
>1950 -13  0.9   0.503804  0 OR7T JO20 23
>1956 -23  1.1   0.503805  0 OR7T JO20 23
>2002  -9  1.0   0.503805  0 OR7T JO20 23
>2010  -7  1.0   0.503805  0 OR7T JO20 23
>2016 -16  0.9   0.503806  0 OR7T JO20 23
>2020  -9  0.9   0.503806  0 OR7T JO20 23
>Recived on Club SP2KDS 160m dipole antenna.
>Vy 73!
>Marcin SQ2BXI



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2009/10/1 Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>

>  Listened at abt 21:00 Clock time *30th Oct 2009* on 0.5013 mc/s to a fb
> rag chew on CW all stations copied, Finbar in some QSB but abt 90% copied
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Back to the future ?<br><br>
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Mal,
this day I been in my girl. :-)
Mayby next club day - friday?
I think copy your signal on normal CW.
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Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI


> Tnx Marcin
> I went qrt early but can TX tonite if u are about.
> de mal/g3kev
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:53 PM
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> Mal
> Strong copy your 600m signal audio 56 !
> Marcin SQ2BXI
> ):
>
> > Now looking 137.7
> > mal/g3kev
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Marcin" <bxi@go2.pl>
> > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 5:45 PM
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> >
> > > Hi Mal
> > > OK Mal, I search your signal on 500kHz.
> > > Vy 73!
> > > Marcin SQ2BXI
> > >
> > > Marcin
> > > Can u work xband I will TX 502.57 qrs3 and I will QSX 137.7
> > > Let me know
> > > de mal/g3kev
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Marcin
> > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> > > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 4:04 PM
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> > >
> > >
> > > Hi LF!
> > > Station SP2KDS will be work today,
> > > Operation in QRSS will start from 19:00 UTC on 137.700kHz (QRRS3) and
> > > 137,778kHz (QRSS60).
> > > Vy 73!
> > > Marcin SQ2BXI
> > >
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Hello Henny,good luck for the russian's grabbers.
 
 
F4DTL  Nicolas JN18FP

RX : Icom IC756 Pro
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Hi Roman, LF,
Thanks for your info, I have made the changes to the web site.

73

Gary - G4WGT.

2009/10/21 Roman RW3ADB <rw3adb@rambler.ru>

> Hi Gary, LF!
>
> One mistake into links:
>
>> Roman, RN3AGC in Moscow - Locator: KO85SV
>>>
>>
> RN3AGC is not Roman -) Roman it's me, RW3ADB)
> His name is Andrey.
>
>  Alternates between 136 & 500 KHz.
>>>
>>
> Both grabbers in Moscow are switched between 136 and 500 because we use
> only one FT897D at each location.
>
>  http://www.cln.ru/~efremov/grabber.html
>>>
>> This is old link to the old Andrey's site. He is closed now.
> New link to the grabber: http://rn3agc.msk.ru/grabber1.shtml
> New RN3AGC site: http://rn3agc.msk.ru/index.shtml
>
> My site is http://qrss.nm.ru/
> Grabber: http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html
>
> * Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> [Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:30:47 +0100]:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> See the WSPR addition to G4WGT grabber list on UK500KHZ Group.
>>
>> Click on http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers
>> - or copy & paste it into your browser's address bar if that doesn't
>> work.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Gary - G4WGT.
>>
>
> --
> Roman RW3ADB.
>
>

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Hi Roman, LF,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for your info, I have made the cha=
nges to the web site.</div><div><br></div><div>73</div><div><br></div><div=
>Gary - G4WGT.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/21 Roman RW3ADB=
 <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rw3adb@rambler.ru">rw3adb@rambler=
.ru</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Hi Gary, LF!<br>
<br>
One mistake into links:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Roman, RN3AGC in Moscow - Locator: KO85SV<br>
</blockquote></blockquote>
<br>
RN3AGC is not Roman -) Roman it&#39;s me, RW3ADB)<br>
His name is Andrey.<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Alternates between 136 &amp; 500 KHz.<br>
</blockquote></blockquote>
<br>
Both grabbers in Moscow are switched between 136 and 500 because we use on=
ly one FT897D at each location.<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<a href=3D"http://www.cln.ru/~efremov/grabber.html" target=3D"_blank">http=
://www.cln.ru/~efremov/grabber.html</a><br>
</blockquote></blockquote>
This is old link to the old Andrey&#39;s site. He is closed now.<br>
New link to the grabber: <a href=3D"http://rn3agc.msk.ru/grabber1.shtml"=
 target=3D"_blank">http://rn3agc.msk.ru/grabber1.shtml</a><br>
New RN3AGC site: <a href=3D"http://rn3agc.msk.ru/index.shtml" target=3D"_b=
lank">http://rn3agc.msk.ru/index.shtml</a><br>
<br>
My site is <a href=3D"http://qrss.nm.ru/" target=3D"_blank">http://qrss.nm=
.ru/</a><br>
Grabber: <a href=3D"http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html" target=3D"_blank">http=
://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html</a><br>
<br>
* Gary - G4WGT &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk" target=3D"_blank=
">g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk</a>&gt; [Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:30:47 +0100]:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hi All,<br>
<br>
See the WSPR addition to G4WGT grabber list on UK500KHZ Group.<br>
<br>
Click on <a href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-gr=
abbers" target=3D"_blank">http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-=
khz-grabbers</a><br>
- or copy &amp; paste it into your browser&#39;s address bar if that doesn=
&#39;t<br>
work.<br>
<br>
73<br>
<br>
Gary - G4WGT.<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
--<br><font color=3D"#888888">
Roman RW3ADB.<br>
<br>
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M0FMT ,Good   569 from the  35  ft  vertical (with atu ) ft897-d speak=
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Circa 1930s 545 kc in Budapest


Mal,

> I have seen some similar type antennas while flying across the USA years 
> ago
> painted RED and WHITE if I remember correctly.
> That was in the days when LF and MF were the norm for broadcasting, before
> the advent of FM and satellites, although there is still plenty of LF/MF
> broadcasting but mainly low power local stations these days, and antenna
> masts are more modest structures than they used to be.

       Towers are still pained red and white for visibility.

The colour scheme seems sensible but in the UK I have never seen RED and 
WHITE masts. They are GREY regardless of height ie Rugby and Droitwich and 
others. The old 300 ft radar masts on the South coast were just plain wood 
colour.
de mal/g3kev



There has never been any LF broadcasting in the US.

There is a big Blaw-Knox tower in Nashville, Tennessee for station WSM
(650kHz) and a smaller one in Manchester, NH.
The Manchester NH Blaw-Knox tower has been used by hams after hours on
160 meters.

There are just as many high power MW stations and big towers in the US
as before, but now it is common for formerly daytime only stations to
have reduced power at night which creates QRM for MW dxers.

-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1





On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 11:21 AM, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:
> I have seen some similar type antennas while flying across the USA years 
> ago
> painted RED and WHITE if I remember correctly.
> That was in the days when LF and MF were the norm for broadcasting, before
> the advent of FM and satellites, although there is still plenty of LF/MF
> broadcasting but mainly low power local stations these days, and antenna
> masts are more modest structures than they used to be.
> de mal/g3kev
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clemens Paul" <cpaul@gmx.net>
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> Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 4:03 PM
> Subject: LF: Re: Circa 1930s 545 kc in Budapest
>
>
>> How about that?
>> http://www.waniewski.de/id414.htm
>>
>> HTH
>> 73
>> Clemens
>> DL4RAJ
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dexter McIntyre W4DEX"
>> <dmcintyre@att.net>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 4:29 PM
>> Subject: LF: Circa 1930s 545 kc in Budapest
>>
>>
>>> I have a 1936 edition of Electrical Engineers Handbook by Pender -
>>> McIlwain
>>> which show a diagram of a 1030 foot antenna in Budapest used on 545 kc.
>>> So far
>>> I have found no history on this antenna. Anyone have any info on this
>>> station
>>> and antenna's history?
>>>
>>> Dex
>>
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Hello Paul-Henrik!
Very thank you for your peport.
73! Marcin

> Hello Marcin!
>=20
> Full call copied from SP2KDS 1931UTC on 137.7kHz
>=20
> Good luck!
>=20
> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
> Vaasa / KP03SD
>=20
>=20
> Quoting Marcin <bxi@go2.pl>:
>=20
> > Hi LF!
> > Station SP2KDS will be work today,
> > Operation in QRSS will start from 19:00 UTC on 137.700kHz (QRRS3) and
> > 137,778kHz (QRSS60).
> > Vy 73!
> > Marcin SQ2BXI
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This was where G3YXM's site originally was. You can now find it at=20
http://wireless.org.uk/

I am sure Dave will comment in due course, I would assume all the stuff=20
on the old site is now on the current one.

73 Dave G3YMC

On 22 Oct 2009 at 10:54, Petr Mal=FD wrote:

> Hello all,
>=20
> I wonder where the following web disappeared:
> http://www.picks.force9.co.uk/index.htm
> is it just temporarily unavailable, moved to another address, or
> canceled totally? It was a great source of information.
>=20
> Second question. I just write an article that is related to MW. Can
> anybody provide a list of countries where the band around 505kHz is
> allowed for normal QSOs (not only beacons). What are the band limits,
> what is the allowed power?
>=20
> Thanks, 73, Petr, OK1FIG
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At 0710z. 4/10/09.

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Hi LF,
Captured last night (2308utc - 01/10/2009).


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Hi LF,<div><br></div><div>Captured last night (2308utc - 01/10/2009).</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>73</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo</div>

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Dear Rick, LF group
it is my first decode of ur wspr signal 
2118 -21  1.4   0.503868  0 OR7T JO20 23
2118 -22  0.8   0.503929  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
it was also sent  to wspr database

                    73 de Piotr, sq7mpj

qth: Lodz  /jo91rs/




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Hi LF,
I am testing a new 137kHz loading coil & modified matching transformer
tonight.

Frequency 137.710kHz - QRS03 - 10 minute intervals.

Reports welcome.

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.

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Hi LF,<div><br></div><div>I am testing a new 137kHz loading coil &amp; modified matching transformer tonight.</div><div><br></div><div>Frequency 137.710kHz - QRS03 - 10 minute intervals.</div><div><br></div><div>Reports welcome.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.</div>

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Dear All

OZ8NJ Niels in QSO with G3XPU  Clive at my loc io92ub between 20.30 BST and
21.00 BST both 577

With best regards
 
 
Jim G7NKS
 
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Hi Niels!
looking 502.0 grabbers started ON.
PSE QRSS-3 if possible.
RN3AGC copy you 569
Inaudible into my location.


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Hello Warren, LF!
I saw a part of beacon callsign.

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
                      
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Hello Warren, LF!<br>I saw a part of beacon callsign.<br><br>Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<br>                    <br /><hr />Pøetáhnìte si fotografie pøímo do chatu v Messenger. Jak se do dìlá. <a href='http://download.live.com/messenger' target='_new'>Klikni zde!</a></body>
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Roger,

Sri,no copy last evening.
Only G4JNT (1055km) and G0NBD (1245km) .
I didn't see even a faint trace on my Perseus SDR.
>From my experience I know that I can decode WSPR sigs
even if they are very weakly visible on Perseus
but what I can't see I can't decode.
I believe at least ~10dB more are necessary to reach central Europe.

73
Clemens
DL4RAJ
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Roger Lapthorn
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 7:34 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz G4NT WSPR beaconing


  Let us hope you manage to hear my signal too later in the evening Clemens.

  73s
  Roger G3XBM


  2009/10/25 Clemens Paul <cpaul@gmx.net>

           2009-10-25 18:00   G4JNT   0.503850   +12   0   IO90iv   0.2   DL4RAJ   JN68kj   1055 
100


    This evening looks promising.

    73
    Clemens
    DL4RAJ



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Only G4JNT (1055km) and G0NBD (1245km=
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        <TD align=3Dleft>&nbsp;IO90iv&nbsp;</TD>
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        <TD align=3Dleft>&nbsp;DL4RAJ&nbsp;</TD>
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As the title says. Reports welcome. EIRP about 100mW.

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Dear LF Group,

I have just uploaded "RX_Soundcard_cal_v1.pdf" to the files page at the 
UK500kHz group web site (go to 
http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/files - it is down at the bottom of 
the list). This describes a way of calibrating receiver frequency and sound 
card sampling rate using an off-air standard frequency such as MSF or 198kHz 
R4, without requiring an accurate audio frequency to calibrate the sound 
card. This is addressed primarily to WOLF mode transmission and reception, 
where this calibration has to be done fairly accurately in order for the 
mode to work properly, but could also be generally useful where sound card 
sample rate calibration has to be done, and there is no precision audio 
frequency source available in the shack.

Any comments would be welcome,

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Graham,

I would expect a -6dB drop, not -3dB.
Average power of the tx will be halfed,therefore current drop to 0,7x,
pep power per signal wil be one fourth.
Remember the two tone test of a ssb tx.

73
Clemens
DL4RAJ

  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:14 AM
  Subject: >>> PSK31 ADDED LF: Throb -2- on 503.000 AND PSK31 503.300 <<<<<<<<


  Added  PSK31  on  503.300  , will be a  -3 dB  drop in peak level when in simultaneous  TX due 
to  tx alc action

  503.000    throb -2-
  503.300    PSK31

      Tnx - G ..


  From: Graham
  Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 10:13 PM
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: Re: LF: Throb -2- Beacon running on 503.000 center frequency


  Thank you  for the  report Gerhard

  Be interested as to your  comments on the  decode , compared to the  psk qso
  as it looks like the  condx are worse ?

  What is the  peak signal level ?

  tnx - G



  From: Graham
  Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 6:52 PM
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: LF: Throb -2- Beacon running on 503.000 center frequency


  Throb 2 beacon on 503.000

  running  :  fldigi , throb mode -2- center  frequency  503.000 Khz

  TX  set USB , Rx 'on during  60 second tx pause ,

  Interested to  see  how the  mode prints / recovers  in the  noise / qsb

  Reports welcome ,

  Tnx - Graham
  G0NBD




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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Graham,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I would expect a -6dB drop, not -3dB.=
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Average power of the tx will be halfe=
d,therefore=20
current drop to 0,7x,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>pep power per signal wil be one=20
fourth.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Remember the two tone test of a ssb=
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tx.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73<BR>Clemens<BR>DL4RAJ</FONT></DIV>
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net.co.uk">Graham</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@=
blacksheep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_l=
f_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 08,=
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> &gt;&gt;&gt; PSK31=
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  Throb -2- on 503.000 AND PSK31 503.300 &lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&=
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Added&nbsp; PSK31&nbsp; on&nbsp; 50=
3.300&nbsp; ,=20
  will be a&nbsp; -3 dB&nbsp; drop in peak level when in simultaneous&=
nbsp; TX=20
  due to&nbsp; tx alc action </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>503.000&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;thro=
b=20
  -2-</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>503.300&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;PSK3=
1=20
</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tnx - G ..=
 </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
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  <DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dg8fzk@g8fzk=
.fsnet.co.uk     href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</A> </=
DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 07, 2009 10:13 PM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org     href=3D"=
mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=
=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Throb -2- Beacon running on 503.000 cen=
ter=20
  frequency</DIV></DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thank you&nbsp; for the&nbsp; repor=
t Gerhard=20
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Be interested as to your&nbsp; comm=
ents on=20
  the&nbsp; decode , compared to the&nbsp; psk qso </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>as it looks like the&nbsp; condx ar=
e worse ?=20
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What is the&nbsp; peak signal level=
=20
?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>tnx - G </FONT></DIV>
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.fsnet.co.uk     href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</A> </=
DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 07, 2009 6:52 PM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org     href=3D"=
mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=
=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: Throb -2- Beacon running on 503.000 center=
=20
  frequency</DIV></DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Throb 2 beacon on 503.000&nbsp; </F=
ONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>running&nbsp; :&nbsp; </FONT><FONT=
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ncy&nbsp; 503.000 Khz=20
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>TX &nbsp;set USB , Rx 'on during&nb=
sp; 60 second=20
  tx pause ,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Interested to&nbsp; see&nbsp; how=
 the&nbsp; mode=20
  prints / recovers &nbsp;in the&nbsp; noise / qsb&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Reports welcome</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tnx - Graham</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>G0NBD</FONT></DIV>
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Hi
Rik, thanks for sharing this observation.
Very interesting!

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Gm. claude fb signal in jo22mb
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Normally  by radio as well  ..or perhaps a local  wireless lan  these days ?

 




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At 16.32 18/10/2009, you wrote:
>10dB over QRN/LX at 1429z.
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>F5VLF

John,

thanks for rpt - where are you located?
IK1HSS is in JN35tb

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Dear Gary, LF Group,

This is what the signal looks like for about 11/2 hours up to 2200utc. The 
red signal is G4WGT, the yellow one is G4JNT's WSPR beacon. The blue line is 
the noise level scaled to about 300Hz bandwidth, to give an idea of the 
audible strength as a CW signal. The plot settings are not ideal to show 
variations in signal level - there are actually short periods where the 
signal fades to inaudibility that don't show up here, but it gives a 
reasonable idea.

G4WGT I think must be mainly sky wave here so presumably the fading is due 
to  different sky-wave paths.  G4JNT is a very stable ground wave signal 
here during the day, so I imagine the fading here is due to the combination 
of ground wave and sky wave.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 

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hi John and Gary...
thanks for the gud control...good evening
Claude F8boj JN16WA
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Hi John ,

Yes it is Henny PA3CPM in beaconning !

73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

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Hi LF,
Capture HF70W
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi LF,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Capture HF70W</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het 
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09-10.jpg<BR><BR>Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging 
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Hello Rick,
thanks for info and correction! Of course, you are right with 5 mW !!!=
!!
So MF is guarantying a lot of very interesting observations -really a=
 magic
band beside 6 Meter (hi).
Vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI

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=20

-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Rik Strobbe
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 22. Oktober 2009 23:13
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Betreff: Re: LF: AW: Re: AW: MF ACTY / Reports from DK6NI

Quoting "Beckmann, Gerhard" <beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de>:

> I am often monitoring WSPR signals and yesterday I decoded OR7T with=
 =20
>  50 mW ERP!

Gerhard,

it was 5mW ERP (0.005) :

2009-10-21 21:24   OR7T   0.503889   -10   0   JO20ix   0.005   DK6NI=
  =20
  JN59ln   471   107

Based on the -10dB SNR it should have worked even with 17dB less ERP,=
 =20
what would be 0.1mW.

My 5mW transmissions were copied by 10 stations up to 878km.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T




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Hi Chris

 

So you couldn't dig my QRPp out of the noise then?  

 

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: 01 October 2009 09:44
To: RSGB LF Group
Subject: LF: 500 CW

 

I also listened to CW QSOs between G3LDO, G3XIV and EI0CF on the evening of
29th. September 2009, all excellent signals, 100% copy. Great! Recorded it
to listen again when bored with lack of CW activity!! - Sad?

73s all,

Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, (JO01MI).


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Recorded it to listen again when bored with lack of CW activity!! - Sa=
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Ok Graham thanks for the info.
=A0
If it was on the same frquency that was probably Dennis and me. We've been=
 on for abt an hour ...hee. Well I can only conclude it is ADSL because it=
 is just raising the noise floor it is=A0very subtle not really identifiab=
le like say TV LTB, it's a mush. Frame ants help a bit but not as sensitiv=
e at the LW by a mile. I use everything SDR software to niose blank and is=
 filtering down to 200hz=A0and Xtal filters on my Kenwood TS690s which has=
 all the filters.=A0=A0Its very depressing. I took my DC rx around to Chri=
s XIZ abt 6miles away and=A0I could hear you on RTTY the other day a smash=
ing signal. I have a similar ant set up I have a higher ASL and I am in op=
en fields about 1/2=A0to a mile from the rest of humanity=A0but still have=
 noise....dohh!!!
=A0
Any way gl Graham and thanks for the reports. Things will be picking up no=
w with the season change=A0so hope to hear you for a twoway on 500kc/s soo=
n.
=A0
73 petefmt
=A0
--- On Mon, 12/10/09, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:


From: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Subject: Re: LF: MOFMT
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Monday, 12 October, 2009, 3:36 PM



Ok Peter=20
=A0
Should of given you a cal=A0then but was using the=A0 ft897=A0 at the=A0=
 time , with no=A0 tx on 500 , good signal at the time , odd=A0 for mid=A0=
 day ? some=A0 cw on at the moment 1530 bst , but=A0 quite=A0 low .. may=
 be the same tx ... noise level on the=A0 rx is showing s8 to=A0 s9 all da=
y .... across the=A0 full band, interestingly=A0 the=A0 dsp noise reductio=
n in the ft897=20
actually=A0 helps ..=A0 must be the=A0 right kind of noise ...
=A0
As for the=A0 rx .. well in a direct test , swopping from the=A0 ft897 and=
 the=A0 ra1778m , the=A0 ft897=A0was =A0giving a better=A0 recovery of the=
=A0 signal .. which is a bit disconcerting .. may be the=A0 wrong type of=
 noise for the 1778 xtal filters (1.4 mhz and do tend to=A0 ring a bit if=
 =A0pinged) , but iv'e had a few replies lately=A0 where I could not=A0 re=
solve the=A0 other station, I think mainly=A0 due to=A0 the=A0 high level=
 of=A0 noise a the=A0 qth=20
=A0
73 Graham=20
=A0
=A0




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Thanks Graham
=A0
Not a beacon but a call, computer generated. Locally we try to have a qso=
 weekdays at around 11:45 or at some time over the lunch hour and again la=
ter around 4:00 it=A0is a very loose sched with M0JXM Dennis and rarely M0=
KHW.Ken. =A0Rog GW3UEP listens some times whch is remarkable=A0and reports=
 by e-mail=A0because I can't hear him its my RX or location (adsl noise?)=
 that is poor but=A0we should be reciprical.
=A0
FYI the current rig is an xtal controlled=A0GW3UEP (ala UK500kHZ group) th=
is week run off a laptop PSU very approx 35 watts output to a lw up 12m -=
 40m lng. Tnx fer rprt, meanwhile back to the RX with a big hammer.
=A0
73 petefmt


--- On Mon, 12/10/09, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:


From: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Subject: LF: MOFMT
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Monday, 12 October, 2009, 12:34 PM



M0FMT ,Good=A0=A0 569 from the=A0 35=A0 ft=A0 vertical (with atu=A0) ft897=
-d speaker at 1200=A0 bst to=A0 day , normal speed=A0 cw , beacon or=A0 li=
ve cq call =A0?=20
=A0
Graham
=A0
G0NBD=A0 /. io83lk





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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20
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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D=
"top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV>Ok Graham thanks for the info.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>If it was on the same frquency that was probably Dennis and me. We've=
 been on for abt an hour ...hee. Well I can only conclude it is ADSL becau=
se it is just raising the noise floor it is&nbsp;very subtle not really id=
entifiable like say TV LTB, it's a mush. Frame ants help a bit but not as=
 sensitive at the LW by a mile. I use everything SDR software to niose bla=
nk and is filtering down to 200hz&nbsp;and Xtal filters on my Kenwood TS69=
0s which has all the filters.&nbsp;&nbsp;Its very depressing. I took my DC=
 rx around to Chris XIZ abt 6miles away and&nbsp;I could hear you on RTTY=
 the other day a smashing signal. I have a similar ant set up I have a hig=
her ASL and I am in open fields about 1/2&nbsp;to a mile from the rest of=
 humanity&nbsp;but still have noise....dohh!!!</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Any way gl Graham and thanks for the reports. Things will be picking=
 up now with the season change&nbsp;so hope to hear you for a twoway on 50=
0kc/s soon.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73 petefmt</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>--- On <B>Mon, 12/10/09, Graham <I>&lt;g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk&gt;</I=
></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT:=
 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Graham &lt;g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk&gt;<B=
R>Subject: Re: LF: MOFMT<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Date: Mond=
ay, 12 October, 2009, 3:36 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV id=3Dyiv882326036>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Ok Peter </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Should of given you a cal&nbsp;then but=
 was using the&nbsp; ft897&nbsp; at the&nbsp; time , with no&nbsp; tx on=
 500 , good signal at the time , odd&nbsp; for mid&nbsp; day ? some&nbsp;=
 cw on at the moment 1530 bst , but&nbsp; quite&nbsp; low .. may be the sa=
me tx ... noise level on the&nbsp; rx is showing s8 to&nbsp; s9 all day ..=
.. across the&nbsp; full band, interestingly&nbsp; the&nbsp; dsp noise red=
uction in the ft897 </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>actually&nbsp; helps ..&nbsp; must be the=
&nbsp; right kind of noise ...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>As for the&nbsp; rx .. well in a direct=
 test , swopping from the&nbsp; ft897 and the&nbsp; ra1778m , the&nbsp; ft=
897&nbsp;was &nbsp;giving a better&nbsp; recovery of the&nbsp; signal ..=
 which is a bit disconcerting .. may be the&nbsp; wrong type of noise for=
 the 1778 xtal filters (1.4 mhz and do tend to&nbsp; ring a bit if &nbsp;p=
inged) , but iv'e had a few replies lately&nbsp; where I could not&nbsp;=
 resolve the&nbsp; other station, I think mainly&nbsp; due to&nbsp; the&nb=
sp; high level of&nbsp; noise a the&nbsp; qth </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73 Graham </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT=
><BR></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=3D"mailto:m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk&#10;CTRL + Click to=
 follow link" href=3D"http://uk.mc281.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dm0fmt=
@yahoo.co.uk" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank ymailto=3D"mailto:m0fmt@yahoo=
.co.uk">M0FMT</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 12, 2009 3:08 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org href=3D"http://uk.=
mc281.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" rel=3Dn=
ofollow target=3D_blank ymailto=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rs=
gb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: MOFMT</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<TABLE border=3D0 cellSpacing=3D0 cellPadding=3D0>
<TBODY>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=3Dtop>
<DIV>Thanks Graham</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Not a beacon but a call, computer generated. Locally we try to have=
 a qso weekdays at around 11:45 or at some time over the lunch hour and ag=
ain later around 4:00 it&nbsp;is a very loose sched with M0JXM Dennis and=
 rarely M0KHW.Ken. &nbsp;Rog GW3UEP listens some times whch is remarkable&=
nbsp;and reports by e-mail&nbsp;because I can't hear him its my RX or loca=
tion (adsl noise?) that is poor but&nbsp;we should be reciprical.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>FYI the current rig is an xtal controlled&nbsp;GW3UEP (ala UK500kHZ=
 group) this week run off a laptop PSU very approx 35 watts output to a lw=
 up 12m - 40m lng. Tnx fer rprt, meanwhile back to the RX with a big hamme=
r.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73 petefmt<BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 12/10/09, Graham <I>&lt;g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk&gt=
;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT:=
 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Graham &lt;g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk&gt;<B=
R>Subject: LF: MOFMT<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Date: Monday,=
 12 October, 2009, 12:34 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV id=3Dyiv363705495>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>M0FMT ,Good&nbsp;&nbsp; 569 from the&nbsp=
; 35&nbsp; ft&nbsp; vertical (with atu&nbsp;) ft897-d speaker at 1200&nbsp=
; bst to&nbsp; day , normal speed&nbsp; cw , beacon or&nbsp; live cq call=
 &nbsp;? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Graham</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G0NBD&nbsp; /. io83lk</FONT></DIV></DIV><=
/BLOCKQUOTE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR>
<DIV>
<HR>

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G'day All,

I had a look at the RW3ADB grabber and I see exactly the same characteristic 
signal here in VK-land on 499,993 Hz.    Can't think what it might be.

Sometimes it looks like one or two second dots and sometimes it looks 
continuous.

Attached are two comparisons.

Any clues ?

73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV) 

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* John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> [Sat, 17 Oct 2009 19:27:01 
+0000]:
> Roger Lapthorn wrote:
> > Just seen Rik's decode and now this!!!!!
> >
> >  2009-10-17 19:14  G3XBM  0.503936  -26  0  JO02dg  0.001  GM4SLV
> IP90gg
> >  896  354
> > This is staggering!!!
> >
>
> And not a fluke:
>
Hi LF!
How many 'W' from G4WGT WSPR?

Roman


> 1924 -26  2.9   0.503936 -1 G3XBM JO02 0
>
> A second decode!
>
> Nice.... :-)
>
> John
> GM4SLV
>
>




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Henny, Lubos,

  Thank you for the captures!
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73 Warren K2ORS
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2009/10/15 henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>:
> Hello Warren,LF,
> Capture XGJ,
> Henny pa3cpm
> best 73s


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Hi Roger you will find that the late Reg Edwards programs GRNDWAV3 (I think)
gives a very good idea of ground wave strengths. I do have an article here
(somewhere) from Jack Belrose with I believe some skywave strength formula
in it. (I am "between two PCs" at the moment :-)) and it is undoubtedly on
the other one ) Generally at LF the skywave starts to equal or exceed the
groundwave strength at ranges exceeding 700km. It may be a little less that
that at 500k. It also depends a little on the receive-system senitivity to a
given mode, which is why very low power stations sometimes experience a
"quiet zone" at least to audible reception.

Alan G3NYK





----- Original Message -----
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> Can someone please point me to any CCIR or similar graphs (preferably on
the
> internet) showing the attenuation with distance expected on groundwave and
> skywave at 500kHz?
>
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM
>
> --
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
> http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
> G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088
>



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Sorry Gents:

I forgot about the time difference. I can look for signals from
19:00 UTC. It is just getting dark this time. Can watch overnight
if anyone beacons overnight. Will look Tuesday, 10-20-2009 if 
anyone would like. I am around 500 Km inland, and TA signals are
a challenge for me. Let me know if you will be transmitting so I
can look at your frequency.

73 agn :::

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 185.29893 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
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Ok Peter=20

Should of given you a cal then but was using the  ft897  at the  time=
 , with no  tx on 500 , good signal at the time , odd  for mid  day ?=
 some  cw on at the moment 1530 bst , but  quite  low .. may be the sa=
me tx ... noise level on the  rx is showing s8 to  s9 all day .... acr=
oss the  full band, interestingly  the  dsp noise reduction in the ft8=
97=20
actually  helps ..  must be the  right kind of noise ...

As for the  rx .. well in a direct test , swopping from the  ft897 and=
 the  ra1778m , the  ft897 was  giving a better  recovery of the  sign=
al .. which is a bit disconcerting .. may be the  wrong type of noise=
 for the 1778 xtal filters (1.4 mhz and do tend to  ring a bit if  pin=
ged) , but iv'e had a few replies lately  where I could not  resolve=
 the  other station, I think mainly  due to  the  high level of  noise=
 a the  qth=20

73 Graham=20




From: M0FMT=20
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 3:08 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: Re: LF: MOFMT


      Thanks Graham

      Not a beacon but a call, computer generated. Locally we try to=
 have a qso weekdays at around 11:45 or at some time over the lunch ho=
ur and again later around 4:00 it is a very loose sched with M0JXM Den=
nis and rarely M0KHW.Ken.  Rog GW3UEP listens some times whch is remar=
kable and reports by e-mail because I can't hear him its my RX or loca=
tion (adsl noise?) that is poor but we should be reciprical.

      FYI the current rig is an xtal controlled GW3UEP (ala UK500kHZ=
 group) this week run off a laptop PSU very approx 35 watts output to=
 a lw up 12m - 40m lng. Tnx fer rprt, meanwhile back to the RX with a=
 big hammer.

      73 petefmt


      --- On Mon, 12/10/09, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:


        From: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
        Subject: LF: MOFMT
        To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
        Date: Monday, 12 October, 2009, 12:34 PM


        M0FMT ,Good   569 from the  35  ft  vertical (with atu ) ft897=
-d speaker at 1200  bst to  day , normal speed  cw , beacon or  live=
 cq call  ?=20

        Graham

        G0NBD  /. io83lk=20




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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Ok Peter </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Should of given you a cal&nbsp;then=
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&nbsp;giving a better&nbsp; recovery of the&nbsp; signal .. which is=
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disconcerting .. may be the&nbsp; wrong type of noise for the 1778 xta=
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(1.4 mhz and do tend to&nbsp; ring a bit if &nbsp;pinged) , but iv'e=
 had a few=20
replies lately&nbsp; where I could not&nbsp; resolve the&nbsp; other=
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think mainly&nbsp; due to&nbsp; the&nbsp; high level of&nbsp; noise a=
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qth </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73 Graham </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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      <DIV>Thanks Graham</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>Not a beacon but a call, computer generated. Locally we try=
 to have a=20
      qso weekdays at around 11:45 or at some time over the lunch hour=
 and again=20
      later around 4:00 it&nbsp;is a very loose sched with M0JXM Denni=
s and=20
      rarely M0KHW.Ken. &nbsp;Rog GW3UEP listens some times whch is=20
      remarkable&nbsp;and reports by e-mail&nbsp;because I can't hear=
 him its my=20
      RX or location (adsl noise?) that is poor but&nbsp;we should be=
=20
      reciprical.</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>FYI the current rig is an xtal controlled&nbsp;GW3UEP (ala=
 UK500kHZ=20
      group) this week run off a laptop PSU very approx 35 watts outpu=
t to a lw=20
      up 12m - 40m lng. Tnx fer rprt, meanwhile back to the RX with a=
 big=20
      hammer.</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>73 petefmt<BR></DIV>
      <DIV><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 12/10/09, Graham=20
      <I>&lt;g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
      <BLOCKQUOTE         style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px sol=
id; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From:=20
        Graham &lt;g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk&gt;<BR>Subject: LF: MOFMT<B=
R>To:=20
        rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Date: Monday, 12 October, 2009=
, 12:34=20
        PM<BR><BR>
        <DIV id=3Dyiv363705495>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>M0FMT ,Good&nbsp;&nbsp; 569=
 from the&nbsp;=20
        35&nbsp; ft&nbsp; vertical (with atu&nbsp;) ft897-d speaker at=
=20
        1200&nbsp; bst to&nbsp; day , normal speed&nbsp; cw , beacon=
 or&nbsp;=20
        live cq call &nbsp;? </FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Graham</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G0NBD&nbsp; /.=20
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Peter

Thanks for the signal!  Will be watching and listening.

Jay


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Dodd" <g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 2:03 PM
Subject: LF: Re Propagation report


> Hi Jay,
> I will be sending a beacon signal QRSS3 on 501.1kHz until 2330z.
> I have modified my old PL519 TV sweep tube transmitter which ran about 60 
> to 70W. It now has two PL519s in parallel running 120W.
> I have taken down the HF quad until the sunspots wake up a bit and 
> reinstalled the antenna used for 73/136kHz so I am now running close to 
> the new ERP limit.
>
>
> Peter, G3LDO
>
>
>> Mal
>>
>> I check your frequency. Sunset here isn't until 2230Z...what time do you 
>> QRT?
>>
>> How about a beacon signal? ;~)
>>
>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 11:34 AM
>> Subject: LF: Re: Propagation report
>>
>>
>>> Warren
>>> Great propagation around EU and Russia at present on 500. I have been 
>>> copied in Russia and eastern EU while daylight here, also 160m is good 
>>> with daytime reception and QSO'S as far as the Moscow area
>>> Probably good to the west but not sure if anyone is monitoring in the 
>>> USA during evening time here.
>>> 73 de mal/g3kev
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
>>> To: "rsgb_lf_group" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 4:18 PM
>>> Subject: LF: Propagation report
>>>
>>>
>>>> I have noted that Alan Melia has not updated his propagation  report
>>>> since the 7th of July!
>>>> Hope all is well with Alan!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> 73 Warren K2ORS
>>>>                WD2XGJ
>>>>                WD2XSH/23
>>>>                WE2XEB/2
>>>>                WE2XGR/1
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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Nice activity this morning,thanx Claude,i hope to see you soon.
Good LF DX with the russian's grabbers my friend.
 
73 de F4DTL  Nicolas

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<DIV>Nice activity this morning,thanx Claude,i hope to see you soon.</DIV>
<DIV>Good LF DX with the russian's grabbers my friend.</DIV>
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Hi Paul-Henrik,


> Hello LF

> 501.4kHz, 20091030 2100UTC:

> Just receiving SM6BGP in JO67IK. Seems to be in becaon mode CW +
> QRSS.

> Good signal on 1 x 1 metre square loop with homemade 2 x 2N5109 loop
> amplifier.

> New callsign for me on this band, good luck with the operation.

SM6BGP is also making it to my QTH JN49bf at 2121 UTC.
Receiving him on Perseus and mini-whip.

Screenshot attached.


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vy 73 + gd DX,

Michael


RX: ICOM R75, SDR-IQ, Perseus
Antenna: Wellbrook ALA 1530, Mini-Whip
Location: Roschbach, Germany N 49=B015' E 8=B007' / Locator JN49BF

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Hello Andrey , Warren ,
Very strong signal last night Warren !
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Andrey rn3agc a =E9crit :
> Hello Warren,
> capture at ~02.01z
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Vernon,

wsprnet.org is showing spots from you on 506.5kHz
UK (and Belgian) stations cannot transmit above 504kHz
Could you tune to 502.4kHz (USB)

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

  2009-10-29 20:54   SM6BHZ   0.506589   -23   0   JO57wq   1   VE1VDM  
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Jean-Pierre,

Thanks for the report.

I was watching the F1AFJ and DF6NM grabbers tonight in the 0100-0200 UTC 
period. There was an interesting signal that swept through both 
screens... certainly not a local QRP event to appear at both locations. See:

http://www.w1tag.com/files/F1AFJ.jpg
http://www.w1tag.com/files/DF6NM.jpg

John, W1TAG

Jean-Pierre Méré (F1AFJ) wrote:
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On 25 Oct 2009 at 19:54, F4DTL@aol.com wrote:

> 
> 
> Hello Dave and LF group,How and has who to ask for the RSGB LF  award ?
> 
> 73 de F4DTL  Nicolas
> 
You contact G3LZQ via the details at the first link I gave......

73 Dave G3YMC

> 
> >  See http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/hf/hfawards/ and the page on
> >  the  
> > award itself at 
> >  http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/hf/hfawards/136khz.php
> > 
> > I am  the proud owner of certificate 7 which I received in 2002. I see
> > 
> >  there have not been many issued since...
> > 
> > 73 Dave  G3YMC
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> 


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Mni Mni Thanks
Vy Vy useful info.
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> How about that?
> http://www.waniewski.de/id414.htm
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> >I have a 1936 edition of Electrical Engineers Handbook by Pender -
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Hello Graham,

 

now first "lines of code"  (hi).

Condx seem to increase now (hopefully.)

 

THE 1UICK BROWN FOX JUMP7D OVER EHE LAZEY M63NA91K247.6788 G0NBD TESTING

 

Best 73 de Gerhard  //  DK6NI

 

============================= 

  _____  

Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Oktober 2009 18:28
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Betreff: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000 

 

Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency 

 

TX set  502.000 USB

Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency 

 

Repeat time 60  seconds  

 

RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'  time 

 

Reports / observations   

 

Tnx  Graham

 

G0NBD - IO83LK  

 


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Dear Graham,
    at first thanks for the first short description. Found the "packet=
s" on the grabber. What does the abbreviation "Throb" mean and where=
 can one find a description?
73   Walter DJ2LF / DI2AG

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Graham=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 7:54 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: Re: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


  Ok Walter=20
  =20
  Well that is a good  question ! ...=20
  =20
  Its a  narrow  band  data  mode that  uses a combination of   multi=
  tones and  amplitude modulation .. the  tones relay the  data  and=
 the  amplitude modulation  provides the  syn-pulse .. so  every chara=
cter   has its ''own sync pulse''  so the  system has no  'lock up or=
  sync time'' =20
  =20
  I am using  FLDIGI  as the  tx software .........  you  need to be=
 very  close on frequency to decode=20
  =20
  Tnx - G ..


  From: Walter und Marianne Staubach=20
  Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:34 PM
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Subject: LF: Re: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


  Please help, Graham - what is THROB-2?
  73
  Walter DJ2LF / DI2AG

    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Graham=20
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
    Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:28 PM
    Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


    Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency=20
    =20
    TX set  502.000 USB
    Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency=20
    =20
    Repeat time 60  seconds =20
    =20
    RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'  time=20
    =20
    Reports / observations  =20

    Tnx  Graham

    G0NBD - IO83LK =20





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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear Graham,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; at first thanks fo=
r the first=20
short description. Found the "packets" on the grabber. What does the=
=20
abbreviation "Throb" mean and where can one find a description?</FONT>=
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE   style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5p=
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV     style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color:=
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A     href=3D"mailto:rsg=
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 27, 20=
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Re: Throb -2=
- beacon=20
  503.000 </DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ok Walter </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well that is a good&nbsp; question=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Its a&nbsp; narrow&nbsp; band&nbsp;=
 data&nbsp;=20
  mode that&nbsp; uses a combination of&nbsp;&nbsp; multi&nbsp; tones=
 and&nbsp;=20
  amplitude modulation .. the&nbsp; tones relay the&nbsp; data&nbsp;=
 and=20
  the&nbsp; amplitude modulation&nbsp; provides the&nbsp; syn-pulse ..=
 so&nbsp;=20
  every character&nbsp;&nbsp; has its ''own sync pulse''&nbsp; so the&=
nbsp;=20
  system has no&nbsp; 'lock up or&nbsp; sync time''&nbsp; </FONT></DIV=
>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am using&nbsp; FLDIGI&nbsp; as th=
e&nbsp; tx=20
  software .........&nbsp; you&nbsp; need to be very&nbsp; close on fr=
equency to=20
  decode </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tnx - G ..</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
  <DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A     href=3D"mailto:=
wum.staubach@t-online.de" title=3Dwum.staubach@t-online.de>Walter=20
  und Marianne Staubach</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:34 PM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org"   =
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  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: Throb -2- beacon 503.000 </DIV></DIV></=
DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Please help, Graham - what is=20
  THROB-2?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Walter DJ2LF / DI2AG</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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lor: black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk"       title=3Dg8fzk@g8f=
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A       href=3D"mailto=
:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org"       title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.=
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 27,=
 2009 6:28=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Throb -2- beac=
on 503.000=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Running&nbsp; THROB-2-&nbsp; Beac=
on&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    503.000 khz centre&nbsp; frequency </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>TX set&nbsp; 502.000 USB</FONT></=
DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Audio&nbsp; 1000 Hz cent frequenc=
y=20
</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Repeat time 60&nbsp; seconds&nbsp=
;=20
</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RX&nbsp; 'ON'&nbsp; during cycle=
 tx 'off'=20
    &nbsp;time </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Reports / observations&nbsp;&nbsp=
;=20
</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tnx&nbsp; Graham</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>G0NBD - IO83LK=20
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This is a local copy  of the signal off air ::  >>  http://myweb.tisca=
li.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html


From: Graham=20
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:28 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency=20

TX set  502.000 USB
Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency=20

Repeat time 60  seconds =20

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; THROB-2-&nbsp; Beacon&n=
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503.000 khz centre&nbsp; frequency </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>TX set&nbsp; 502.000 USB</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Audio&nbsp; 1000 Hz cent frequency </=
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&nbsp;time </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Reports / observations&nbsp;&nbsp; </=
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Hi Steve, Dave,



as far as I know, the=C2=A0PAL colour subcarrier=C2=A0is supposed=C2=A0to=
 be locked to the line and field rates, but with an intentional offset fro=
m an integer 25 Hz multiple to provide some "blurring" of possible moiree=
 effects.=C2=A0Ideally, the line frequency should be accurately on 15625=
 Hz.=C2=A0The German ZDF timebase=C2=A0used to be=C2=A0derived from the PT=
B atomic clocks in Braunschweig and could be traced to UTC, but nowadays=
 analog terrestrial TV transmitters have pretty much disappeared here.



Best regards,

Markus, DF6NM



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Verschickt: Di., 6. Okt. 2009, 13:24
Thema: LF: Re: Re: What is on 499.993 kcs ?



G'day Dave,=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Yes - I did that calculation but came up with 500002.81 Hz - not 499993 Hz=
.=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Still - that seems the most likely explanation as it is very stable.=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Thanks.=C2=A0
=C2=A0
73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)=C2=A0
=C2=A0
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> > Or more likely the 32nd harmonic of the 15.625kHz TV line ocillator >=
 rate. UK, UA and VK all use the 625 line PAL standard (though parts of >=
 USSR are Secam). The line rate is actually locked to the colour > subcarr=
ier of 4.43361875 MHz which may account for the 7Hz shift at > 500kHz.=C2=
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<div>Hi Steve, Dave,</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>as far as I know, the&nbsp;PAL colour subcarrier&nbsp;is supposed&nbs=
p;to be locked to the line and field rates, but with an intentional offset=
 from an integer 25 Hz multiple to provide some "blurring" of possible moi=
ree effects.&nbsp;Ideally, the line frequency should be accurately on 1562=
5 Hz.&nbsp;The German ZDF timebase&nbsp;used to be&nbsp;derived from the=
 PTB atomic clocks in Braunschweig and could be traced to UTC, but nowaday=
s analog terrestrial TV transmitters have pretty much disappeared here.</d=
iv>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>Best regards,</div>


<div>Markus, DF6NM</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung----- <br>
Von: VK2ZTO &lt;vk2zto@djirra.com&gt;<br>
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>
Verschickt: Di., 6. Okt. 2009, 13:24<br>
Thema: LF: Re: Re: What is on 499.993 kcs ?<br>
<br>
</div>


<div id=3DAOLMsgPart_0_d1ee0afe-13e8-4d89-a120-5cd4fb193a2c style=3D"FONT-=
SIZE: 12px; MARGIN: 0px; COLOR: #000; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial,=
 Sans-Serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff">G'day Dave,&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Yes - I did that calculation but came up with 500002.81 Hz - not 499993 Hz=
.&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Still - that seems the most likely explanation as it is very stable.&nbsp;=
<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Thanks.&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Sergeant" &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:d=
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Sent: Tuesday,=20
October 06, 2009 9:34 PM&nbsp;<br>
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&gt; &gt; Or more likely the 32nd harmonic of the 15.625kHz TV line ocilla=
tor &gt; rate. UK, UA and VK all use the 625 line PAL standard (though par=
ts of &gt; USSR are Secam). The line rate is actually locked to the colour=
 &gt; subcarrier of 4.43361875 MHz which may account for the 7Hz shift at=
 &gt; 500kHz.&nbsp;<br>
&gt; &gt; 73 Dave G3YMC&nbsp;<br>
&gt; &gt; <A href=3D"http://www.davesergeant.com/" target=3D_blank>http://=
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On 18/10/2009 at 17:02 Marco IK1ODO wrote:

>At 16.32 18/10/2009, you wrote:
>>10dB over QRN/LX at 1429z.
>>
>>F5VLF
>
>John,
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>thanks for rpt - where are you located?
>IK1HSS is in JN35tb
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>Marco IK1ODO for IK1HSS

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There is the next good signal on 137.740kHz >> F8BOJ.

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Doing my sums, I've calculated my ERP now to be somewhere around *1mW*.

This is based on an antenna current of around 100mA and an effective height
of around 5m. Certainly comparing reports being given by stations at similar
distances to me would suggest this is not far off. The recent PA change
increased the ERP by 10dB and the antenna matching may have added a little
more.

Certainly judging by WSPR reports I am now getting, the higher ERP is
expanding my "range of influence" quite significantly on 500kHz with reports
now from 12 different stations in 4 countries so far. All this is still
without ANY change to my antenna, which remains the 6m long feeder to my
28MHz halo with coax inner/outer strapped and the halo "up top" as a top
capacity hat.

This continues to be such fun.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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Doing my sums, I&#39;ve calculated my ERP now to be somewhere around <b>1m=
W</b>. <br><br>This is based on an antenna current of around 100mA and an=
 effective height of around 5m. Certainly comparing reports being given by=
 stations at similar distances to me would suggest this is not far off. Th=
e recent PA change increased the ERP by 10dB and the antenna matching may=
 have added a little more. <br>
<br>Certainly judging by WSPR reports I am now getting, the higher ERP is=
 expanding my &quot;range of influence&quot; quite significantly on 500kHz=
 with reports now from 12 different stations in 4 countries so far. All th=
is is still without ANY change to my antenna, which remains the 6m long fe=
eder to my 28MHz halo with coax inner/outer strapped and the halo &quot;up=
 top&quot; as a top capacity hat.<br>
<br>This continues to be such fun.<br><br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br><br>------=
-------------------------------------------------------<br><a href=3D"http=
://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=
=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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Roger Lapthorn wrote:
> My QRP beacon is running this evening. Reports welcomed.
> 

Roger

I'm watching!

I see from your blog that your best WSPR DX on 160m is only 659km!

Do you fancy upping that to 896km one evening?

Cheers,

John
GM4SLV


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Hi Warren,LF
Capture XGJ,
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Warren,LF</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Capture XGJ,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het 
volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:<BR>XGJ 
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Hello J-P,LF
Nice capture AFJ,
Henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello J-P,LF</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Nice capture AFJ,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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Hi Henny ,
TNX
73 J-P afj

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> LF,
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The Beacon "BOJ" is open  QRSS60  137776.2hz
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Mal,
Your signal here is almost in the centre of a spectrum of powerful broadband SVC-station.
It is a pity that you do not have possibility to replace frequency...

73 Andrey


> Andrey can see my sig solid copy on ur GRABBER
> TNX MAL
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
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> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:36 PM
> Subject: LF: Re: Re: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz
> 
> 
>> Hi Mal,
>> I have already switched on the grabber on your frequency.
>> The grabber will work on 500 khz to ~21z....
>>
>> In the night from 1.30 till 2.45 observed someone's wspr-signals on 
>> 503850.
>> The signals was not decoded.
>>
>> 73 Andrey
>>
>>
>>> Hi Andrey
>>> Pse look at 502.57 starting at 1800 utc CW and QRS3
>>> De mal/g3kev
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 6:45 PM
>>> Subject: LF: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello LF'ers,
>>>> QRV RCV today WSPR-beacons on 500 kHz (503850+/-) till the morning.
>>>> Also QRSS3 above frequency 502.350. If someone is going to work in
>>>> QRSS3-mode,
>>>> please inform your frequency.
>>>>
>>>> 73 Andrey



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Dear Gary, LF Group,

The bigger signal from G4WGT reaches peaks of about 589 here at the moment - 
it is quite interesting to watch the received level going up and down over a 
range of 25dB or so with the QSB. I am running the Spec Lab plotter at the 
moment to see what it looks like over a period of time.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 



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Dear Vernon, Lubos, LF Group,

Thanks for the overnight WSPR reports - the beacon closed down at 0800utc.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU


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Subject: LF: Re: Re: Beacon "BOJ" is 10h18 UTC......no 00h 18      sorry
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Hell swl in KO86NP end LF
Many thanks for the pics report...i send again in week.several day's
the beacon 137776.2 in qrss60.the pleasure for the other control's
good sunday
Claude F8boj JN16WA
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From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
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> Hello Claude, LF,
> SWL in KO86np.. The river was the aerial:)
> 
> hi.... all
> Error sorry
> Beacon "BOJ" is for 10H18......UTC
> 137776.20 hz in QRSS 60
> excuse my
> Claude F8boj JN16WA



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who is transmitting on 137.775 at 2117z?

I have a steady, strong carrier, clearly switched on/off with a 
period of several minutes.
S/N is 18 dB in 1Hz, just audible.

73 - Marco IK1ODO - JN35sa



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mal hamilton wrote:
> Try QSO mode. Beacons only generate QRM for QSO operators.

And vice versa...

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Hi LF,
Capture SP2KDS
Henny pa3cpm
73s
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Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi LF,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Capture SP2KDS</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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I copied OZ8NJ too at 502.5 RST 577 in IO92ub.

Quite a bit of QSB in and out though.  Copied G3KEV replying initially but
he also was QSB a lot.  

With best regards
 
 
Jim G7NKS
 
 
Dr. James Cowburn

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andrey rn3agc
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Subject: LF: Re: OZ8NJ calling CQ on 502.5kHz, RST 589 in KP03SD

Hello Paul-Henrik, LF,
I hear OZ8NJ, RST 579, freq. 502150

73 Andrey


> Hello LF
> 
> Just receiving CQ DE OZ8NJ 2008UTC on 502.5kHz +/- RST 589 - 599. A truly
> massive signal at the moment.
> 
> Frequency is changing around a bit, not like drift, more like the operator
is
> adjusting controls.
> 
> Now G3KEV is relpying to the CQ with RST 579.
> 
> 
> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
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Hello LF

Just receiving CQ DE OZ8NJ 2008UTC on 502.5kHz +/- RST 589 - 599. A truly
massive signal at the moment.

Frequency is changing around a bit, not like drift, more like the operator=
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adjusting controls.

Now G3KEV is relpying to the CQ with RST 579.


Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
Vaasa / KP03SD




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Hi Paul-Henrik and LF
Nice copy from SM6BGP here.
 
Gunnar (BGP) are you a member of the SK6RUD radioclub ?
 
F4DTL  Nicolas JN18FP
RX : Icom IC7400
Ant: Wellbrook LFL  1010



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<DIV>Nice copy from SM6BGP here.</DIV>
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ON4KTJ/Jean active on 500 K/cs band CW. I have worked him twice, this=
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  It is not a rumor !=20
  please read my official release=20

  German: http://www.mydarc.de/dl0cux/nobeld.pdf
  English:  http://www.mydarc.de/dl0cux/nobele.pdf

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  we are highly interrested in Reports from out of Europe !=20

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Henny, John, Jean-Pierre,
Possibly, it OE5ODL...
OE5ODL at 00.35 (my capture, 3s-window): http://rn3agc.msk.ru/136-3/0910270034-oe5odl-3.jpg
Signal in 3s (my capture): http://rn3agc.msk.ru/filez/091027-signal-rn3agc.jpg
On capture it is possible to read a callsign (capture from Henny): http://rn3agc.msk.ru/filez/091027-signal-pa3cpm.jpg

73 Andrey


> Hello J-P,John,Andrey,
> also here the big signal,
> best 73s
> henny pa3cpm
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
> strange big signal 27-10.jpg
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Ok Peter ,

Well there is not much of a way round the  situation ...if you  do a=
 site survey with a portable  rx and look for the  quietest spot for=
 the  antenna , that may help , you  don't need too much of a ae for=
  rx purposes  ....from what you  say , your  are in the  open anyway=
 ?sounds like a case of  water water everywhere  and not a drop to  dr=
ink !
can you  set up a remote location and  run the  cables under the  grou=
nd ?

As the  noise is a sort of uniform distributed 'noise' then I'm sure=
 it would be possible to  programme a noise reducing software that sim=
ply summed multiple passes of the  signal and used a sort of  addition=
 to recover the   data ok it  would  have a delay , but so what ..only=
  problem is finding someone who can code it ...I ran a recoding of a=
 low cw signal  through the  noise filter of 'soundforge-9' and was ju=
st left with a cw signal .. so it  can be done ...=20

Height may help as well , if you can get the  active part of the  ante=
nna as high as possible and away from the  buildings  that may reduce=
 the  level=20

Its a pity we don't have one of these for  500 > http://websdr.ewi.utw=
ente.nl:8901/ ..=20

Ok on the  rtty  , well 100 % copy  on rtty  with  Chris is a relative=
ly  new thing, before is was quite a slog to  get the message over !

good luck

G .=20

nb - have  you  tried using  wide band  filters .. back all the  gains=
 off , will not  suffer from ringing as much .. I use my  ws18 head ph=
ones for  cw  hihi=20



From: M0FMT=20
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 4:37 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: Re: LF: MOFMT


      Ok Graham thanks for the info.

      If it was on the same frquency that was probably Dennis and me.=
 We've been on for abt an hour ...hee. Well I can only conclude it is=
 ADSL because it is just raising the noise floor it is very subtle not=
 really identifiable like say TV LTB, it's a mush. Frame ants help a=
 bit but not as sensitive at the LW by a mile. I use everything SDR so=
ftware to niose blank and is filtering down to 200hz and Xtal filters=
 on my Kenwood TS690s which has all the filters.  Its very depressing.=
 I took my DC rx around to Chris XIZ abt 6miles away and I could hear=
 you on RTTY the other day a smashing signal. I have a similar ant set=
 up I have a higher ASL and I am in open fields about 1/2 to a mile fr=
om the rest of humanity but still have noise....dohh!!!

      Any way gl Graham and thanks for the reports. Things will be pic=
king up now with the season change so hope to hear you for a twoway on=
 500kc/s soon.

      73 petefmt

      --- On Mon, 12/10/09, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:


        From: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
        Subject: Re: LF: MOFMT
        To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
        Date: Monday, 12 October, 2009, 3:36 PM


        Ok Peter=20

        Should of given you a cal then but was using the  ft897  at th=
e  time , with no  tx on 500 , good signal at the time , odd  for mid=
  day ? some  cw on at the moment 1530 bst , but  quite  low .. may be=
 the same tx ... noise level on the  rx is showing s8 to  s9 all day=
 .... across the  full band, interestingly  the  dsp noise reduction=
 in the ft897=20
        actually  helps ..  must be the  right kind of noise ...

        As for the  rx .. well in a direct test , swopping from the =
 ft897 and the  ra1778m , the  ft897 was  giving a better  recovery of=
 the  signal .. which is a bit disconcerting .. may be the  wrong type=
 of noise for the 1778 xtal filters (1.4 mhz and do tend to  ring a bi=
t if  pinged) , but iv'e had a few replies lately  where I could not=
  resolve the  other station, I think mainly  due to  the  high level=
 of  noise a the  qth=20

        73 Graham=20




        From: M0FMT=20
        Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 3:08 PM
        To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
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              Thanks Graham

              Not a beacon but a call, computer generated. Locally we=
 try to have a qso weekdays at around 11:45 or at some time over the=
 lunch hour and again later around 4:00 it is a very loose sched with=
 M0JXM Dennis and rarely M0KHW.Ken.  Rog GW3UEP listens some times whc=
h is remarkable and reports by e-mail because I can't hear him its my=
 RX or location (adsl noise?) that is poor but we should be reciprical=
.

              FYI the current rig is an xtal controlled GW3UEP (ala UK=
500kHZ group) this week run off a laptop PSU very approx 35 watts outp=
ut to a lw up 12m - 40m lng. Tnx fer rprt, meanwhile back to the RX wi=
th a big hammer.

              73 petefmt


              --- On Mon, 12/10/09, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>=
 wrote:


                From: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
                Subject: LF: MOFMT
                To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
                Date: Monday, 12 October, 2009, 12:34 PM


                M0FMT ,Good   569 from the  35  ft  vertical (with atu=
 ) ft897-d speaker at 1200  bst to  day , normal speed  cw , beacon or=
  live cq call  ?=20

                Graham

                G0NBD  /. io83lk=20



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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Ok Peter ,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Well there is not much of a way round=
 the&nbsp;=20
situation ...if you&nbsp; do a site survey with a portable&nbsp; rx an=
d look for=20
the&nbsp; quietest spot for the&nbsp; antenna , that may help , you&nb=
sp; don't=20
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sp; say ,=20
your&nbsp; are in the&nbsp; open anyway ?sounds like a case of&nbsp;=
 water water=20
everywhere&nbsp; and not a drop to&nbsp; drink !</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>can you&nbsp; set up a remote locatio=
n and&nbsp;=20
run the&nbsp; cables under the&nbsp; ground ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>As the&nbsp; noise is a sort of unifo=
rm distributed=20
'noise' then I'm sure it would be possible to&nbsp; programme a noise=
 reducing=20
software that simply&nbsp;summed multiple passes of the&nbsp; signal=
 and used a=20
sort of&nbsp; addition to recover the &nbsp;&nbsp;data ok it&nbsp; wou=
ld&nbsp;=20
have a delay , but so what ..only&nbsp; problem is finding someone who=
 can code=20
it ...I ran a recoding of a&nbsp;low cw signal &nbsp;through the&nbsp;=
 noise=20
filter of 'soundforge-9' and was just left with a cw signal .. so it&n=
bsp; can=20
be done ... </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Height may help as well , if you can=
 get the&nbsp;=20
active part of the&nbsp; antenna as high as possible and away from the=
&nbsp;=20
buildings &nbsp;that may reduce the&nbsp; level </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Its a pity we don't have one of these=
 for&nbsp; 500=20
&gt; <A   title=3D"http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/&#10;CTRL + Click=
 to follow link"   href=3D"http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/">http://=
websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/</A>&nbsp;..=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Ok on the&nbsp; rtty&nbsp; , well 100=
 % copy&nbsp;=20
on rtty&nbsp; with&nbsp; Chris is a relatively &nbsp;new thing, before=
 is was=20
quite a slog to&nbsp; get the message over !</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>good luck</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G . </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>nb - have&nbsp; you&nbsp; tried using=
&nbsp; wide=20
band&nbsp; filters .. back all the&nbsp; gains off , will not&nbsp; su=
ffer from=20
ringing as much .. I use my&nbsp; ws18 head phones for&nbsp; cw&nbsp;=
 hihi=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dm0fmt@yahoo.c=
o.uk   href=3D"mailto:m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk">M0FMT</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 12, 2009 4:37 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mail=
to:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: MOFMT</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<TABLE border=3D0 cellSpacing=3D0 cellPadding=3D0>
  <TBODY>
  <TR>
    <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
      <DIV>Ok Graham thanks for the info.</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>If it was on the same frquency that was probably Dennis and=
 me. We've=20
      been on for abt an hour ...hee. Well I can only conclude it is=
 ADSL=20
      because it is just raising the noise floor it is&nbsp;very subtl=
e not=20
      really identifiable like say TV LTB, it's a mush. Frame ants hel=
p a bit=20
      but not as sensitive at the LW by a mile. I use everything SDR=
 software to=20
      niose blank and is filtering down to 200hz&nbsp;and Xtal filters=
 on my=20
      Kenwood TS690s which has all the filters.&nbsp;&nbsp;Its very de=
pressing.=20
      I took my DC rx around to Chris XIZ abt 6miles away and&nbsp;I=
 could hear=20
      you on RTTY the other day a smashing signal. I have a similar an=
t set up I=20
      have a higher ASL and I am in open fields about 1/2&nbsp;to a mi=
le from=20
      the rest of humanity&nbsp;but still have noise....dohh!!!</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>Any way gl Graham and thanks for the reports. Things will=
 be picking=20
      up now with the season change&nbsp;so hope to hear you for a two=
way on=20
      500kc/s soon.</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>73 petefmt</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>--- On <B>Mon, 12/10/09, Graham=20
      <I>&lt;g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
      <BLOCKQUOTE         style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px sol=
id; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From:=20
        Graham &lt;g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk&gt;<BR>Subject: Re: LF: MOF=
MT<BR>To:=20
        rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Date: Monday, 12 October, 2009=
, 3:36=20
        PM<BR><BR>
        <DIV id=3Dyiv882326036>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Ok Peter </FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Should of given you a cal&nbs=
p;then but was=20
        using the&nbsp; ft897&nbsp; at the&nbsp; time , with no&nbsp;=
 tx on 500=20
        , good signal at the time , odd&nbsp; for mid&nbsp; day ? some=
&nbsp; cw=20
        on at the moment 1530 bst , but&nbsp; quite&nbsp; low .. may=
 be the same=20
        tx ... noise level on the&nbsp; rx is showing s8 to&nbsp; s9=
 all day=20
        .... across the&nbsp; full band, interestingly&nbsp; the&nbsp;=
 dsp noise=20
        reduction in the ft897 </FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>actually&nbsp; helps ..&nbsp;=
 must be=20
        the&nbsp; right kind of noise ...</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>As for the&nbsp; rx .. well=
 in a direct=20
        test , swopping from the&nbsp; ft897 and the&nbsp; ra1778m ,=
 the&nbsp;=20
        ft897&nbsp;was &nbsp;giving a better&nbsp; recovery of the&nbs=
p; signal=20
        .. which is a bit disconcerting .. may be the&nbsp; wrong type=
 of noise=20
        for the 1778 xtal filters (1.4 mhz and do tend to&nbsp; ring=
 a bit if=20
        &nbsp;pinged) , but iv'e had a few replies lately&nbsp; where=
 I could=20
        not&nbsp; resolve the&nbsp; other station, I think mainly&nbsp=
; due=20
        to&nbsp; the&nbsp; high level of&nbsp; noise a the&nbsp; qth=
=20
        </FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73 Graham </FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT><FONT size=3D2      =
     face=3DArial></FONT><BR></DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
        <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
        <DIV><B>From:</B> <A           title=3D"mailto:m0fmt@yahoo.co.=
uk&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"           href=3D"http://uk.mc281.=
mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dm0fmt@yahoo.co.uk"           rel=3Dnofo=
llow target=3D_blank ymailto=3D"mailto:m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk">M0FMT</A>=20
        </DIV>
        <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 12, 2009 3:08 PM</DIV>
        <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org     =
      href=3D"http://uk.mc281.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Drsgb_lf_g=
roup@blacksheep.org"           rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank       =
    ymailto=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</A>=20
        </DIV>
        <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: MOFMT</DIV></DIV></DIV>
        <DIV><BR></DIV>
        <TABLE border=3D0 cellSpacing=3D0 cellPadding=3D0>
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          <TR>
            <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
              <DIV>Thanks Graham</DIV>
              <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
              <DIV>Not a beacon but a call, computer generated. Locall=
y we try=20
              to have a qso weekdays at around 11:45 or at some time=
 over the=20
              lunch hour and again later around 4:00 it&nbsp;is a very=
 loose=20
              sched with M0JXM Dennis and rarely M0KHW.Ken. &nbsp;Rog=
 GW3UEP=20
              listens some times whch is remarkable&nbsp;and reports=
 by=20
              e-mail&nbsp;because I can't hear him its my RX or locati=
on (adsl=20
              noise?) that is poor but&nbsp;we should be reciprical.</=
DIV>
              <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
              <DIV>FYI the current rig is an xtal controlled&nbsp;GW3U=
EP (ala=20
              UK500kHZ group) this week run off a laptop PSU very appr=
ox 35=20
              watts output to a lw up 12m - 40m lng. Tnx fer rprt, mea=
nwhile=20
              back to the RX with a big hammer.</DIV>
              <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
              <DIV>73 petefmt<BR></DIV>
              <DIV><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 12/10/09, Graham=20
              <I>&lt;g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></D=
IV>
              <BLOCKQUOTE                 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16=
,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From:=20
                Graham &lt;g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk&gt;<BR>Subject: LF:=
=20
                MOFMT<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Date: Mon=
day, 12=20
                October, 2009, 12:34 PM<BR><BR>
                <DIV id=3Dyiv363705495>
                <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>M0FMT ,Good&nbsp;&nbs=
p; 569 from=20
                the&nbsp; 35&nbsp; ft&nbsp; vertical (with atu&nbsp;)=
 ft897-d=20
                speaker at 1200&nbsp; bst to&nbsp; day , normal speed&=
nbsp; cw ,=20
                beacon or&nbsp; live cq call &nbsp;? </FONT></DIV>
                <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
                <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Graham</FONT></DIV>
                <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
                <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G0NBD&nbsp; /.=20
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Hi Graham, LF,

Copying your THROB2 transmission very well here but only about 35 miles
away.

I am running FLdigi & MultiPSK software together & it looks like MultiPSK
has the upper hand, certainly at this distance. Be interesting to have a
comparison on a weaker signal.

Below are the same seven lines from both software decoders.


FLdigi
THE QUICK BROWN FOK JUMPED OVER THE LAZVY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TVLTING
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 01234567898G0NBD TESTING
THE QUICK BROWB FOKBJUMPVD OVER THE LAZEY MOON 012345A78O G7BZD TVSTIDG
THE QUICK BROWN FOK JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 012345678,PG0NBD TVLTPDF
7HE.QU8CY BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THV LAZEY MOOBPV1I3456785 G0NZCBTVLT NG
THE QUICK BROWN FOK JSMOED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 01234O5789 G0FBD TESTIAG
7HEQQU8CY BROWN FOX JUMPED OVVR THVGLRZVB MOON O123RO67)6GG0NZDGTVLJUFF

MultiPSK
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTING
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTING
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTING
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTING
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTING
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTING
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTING

73,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo



2009/10/27 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>

>  Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency
>
> TX set  502.000 USB
> Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency
>
> Repeat time 60  seconds
>
> RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'  time
>
> Reports / observations
>
> Tnx  Graham
>
> G0NBD - IO83LK
>
>
>

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<div>Hi Graham, LF,</div><div><br></div><div>Copying your THROB2 transmiss=
ion very well here but only about 35 miles away.</div><div><br></div><div>=
I am running FLdigi &amp; MultiPSK software together &amp; it looks like=
 MultiPSK has the upper hand, certainly at this distance. Be interesting=
 to have a comparison on a weaker signal.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Below are the same seven lines from both software decoders.</div><div=
><br></div><div><br></div><div>FLdigi</div><div>THE QUICK BROWN FOK JUMPED=
 OVER THE LAZVY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TVLTING</div><div>THE QUICK BROWN FO=
X JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 01234567898G0NBD TESTING</div>

<div>THE QUICK BROWB FOKBJUMPVD OVER THE LAZEY MOON 012345A78O G7BZD TVSTI=
DG</div><div>THE QUICK BROWN FOK JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 012345678,PG0N=
BD TVLTPDF</div><div>7HE.QU8CY BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THV LAZEY MOOBPV1I345=
6785 G0NZCBTVLT NG</div>

<div>THE QUICK BROWN FOK JSMOED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 01234O5789 G0FBD TESTI=
AG</div><div>7HEQQU8CY BROWN FOX JUMPED OVVR THVGLRZVB MOON O123RO67)6GG0N=
ZDGTVLJUFF</div><div><br></div><div>MultiPSK</div><div>THE QUICK BROWN FOX=
 JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTING</div>

<div>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTI=
NG</div><div>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0N=
BD TESTING</div><div>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 012345=
6789 G0NBD TESTING</div>

<div>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTI=
NG</div><div>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0N=
BD TESTING</div><div>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 012345=
6789 G0NBD TESTING</div>

<div><br></div><div>73,</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo</di=
v><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/27=
 Graham <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk"=
 target=3D"_blank">g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk</a>&gt;</span><br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">



<div style=3D"padding-left:10px;padding-right:10px;padding-top:15px" name=
=3D"Compose message area">
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Running=A0 THROB-2-=A0 Beacon=A0=A0=
=20
503.000 khz centre=A0 frequency </font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">TX set=A0 502.000 USB</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Audio=A0 1000 Hz cent frequency </fon=
t></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Repeat time 60=A0 seconds=A0 </font><=
/div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">RX=A0 &#39;ON&#39;=A0 during cycle tx=
 &#39;off&#39;=20
=A0time </font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Reports / observations=A0=A0 </font><=
/div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Tnx=A0 Graham</font></div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">G0NBD - IO83LK </font>=A0</div>
<br><br></div>
</blockquote></div><br>

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I just confirmed from Mori JH1GVY that he was captured by the TIL 
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I've created a recent events page for the grabber.  His grabs are 
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Hello Warren,LF
Capture XGJ
Henny pa3cpm
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Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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Thanks Alan.

I have downloaded the GRNDWAV3 programme and am playing with it - looks
useful.

Really looking for some *normalised curves* so I could do very quick
estimates of expected losses versus distance. I've seen these years ago in a
CCIR paperback and was hoping to find these on the net somewhere.

Now back to 500kHz WSPRing....

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/10/31 Alan Melia <alan.melia@btinternet.com>

> Hi Roger you will find that the late Reg Edwards programs GRNDWAV3 (I
> think)
> gives a very good idea of ground wave strengths. I do have an article here
> (somewhere) from Jack Belrose with I believe some skywave strength formula
> in it. (I am "between two PCs" at the moment :-)) and it is undoubtedly on
> the other one ) Generally at LF the skywave starts to equal or exceed the
> groundwave strength at ranges exceeding 700km. It may be a little less that
> that at 500k. It also depends a little on the receive-system senitivity to
> a
> given mode, which is why very low power stations sometimes experience a
> "quiet zone" at least to audible reception.
>
> Alan G3NYK
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roger Lapthorn" <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 12:28 PM
> Subject: LF: 500kHz attenuation graphs?
>
>
> > Can someone please point me to any CCIR or similar graphs (preferably on
> the
> > internet) showing the attenuation with distance expected on groundwave
> and
> > skywave at 500kHz?
> >
> > 73s
> > Roger G3XBM
> >
> > --
> > -------------------------------------------------------------
> > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
> > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
> > G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088
> >
>
>
>


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Thanks Alan. <br><br>I have downloaded the GRNDWAV3 programme and am playi=
ng with it - looks useful. <br><br>Really looking for some <b>normalised=
 curves</b> so I could do very quick estimates of expected losses versus=
 distance. I&#39;ve seen these years ago in a CCIR paperback and was hopin=
g to find these on the net somewhere.<br>
<br>Now back to 500kHz WSPRing....<br><br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br><br><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/31 Alan Melia <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:alan.melia@btinternet.com">alan.melia@btinternet.com</a>&gt;</s=
pan><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hi Roger you wi=
ll find that the late Reg Edwards programs GRNDWAV3 (I think)<br>
gives a very good idea of ground wave strengths. I do have an article here=
<br>
(somewhere) from Jack Belrose with I believe some skywave strength formula=
<br>
in it. (I am &quot;between two PCs&quot; at the moment :-)) and it is undo=
ubtedly on<br>
the other one ) Generally at LF the skywave starts to equal or exceed the<=
br>
groundwave strength at ranges exceeding 700km. It may be a little less tha=
t<br>
that at 500k. It also depends a little on the receive-system senitivity to=
 a<br>
given mode, which is why very low power stations sometimes experience a<br=
>
&quot;quiet zone&quot; at least to audible reception.<br>
<br>
Alan G3NYK<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
----- Original Message -----<br>
From: &quot;Roger Lapthorn&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rogerlapthorn@gmail=
.com">rogerlapthorn@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
To: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
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Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 12:28 PM<br>
Subject: LF: 500kHz attenuation graphs?<br>
<br>
<br>
&gt; Can someone please point me to any CCIR or similar graphs (preferably=
 on<br>
the<br>
&gt; internet) showing the attenuation with distance expected on groundwav=
e and<br>
&gt; skywave at 500kHz?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 73s<br>
&gt; Roger G3XBM<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; -------------------------------------------------------------<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://g=
3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">http://www.g3xbm=
.co.uk</a><br>
&gt; G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
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2009/10/12 "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>:
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> Very bad copy of XGJ on the grabber last night .
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> henny van elst a =E9crit :
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>> Hello Warren,LF
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Hi All,
My thanks to all (both direct & LF) who confirmed that the grabber links are
OK.

73

Gary - G4WGT.

2009/10/6 Chris <c.ashby435@btinternet.com>

>  Hi Gary,
> All seems to work OK here as well.
> 73, Chris, G4AYT.
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Hi All,<div><br></div><div>My thanks to all (both direct &amp; LF) who con=
firmed that the grabber links are OK.</div><div><br></div><div>73</div><di=
v><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/6=
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<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Hi Gary,</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">All seems to work OK here as well.</f=
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Hi,

beaconing is boring -=20
do not often hear "real CW" QSO

Date: 19.Oct. 2009
OZ8NJ -- Time: Started CQ- calling 1905 UTC
QSO with G3LDO
           End : 1920h UTC
OZ8NJ - 579
G3LDO - 519 ( QSB to NIL)

JO43IU
Cuxhaven
Germany

Antenna : Top loaded vertikal
RIG: FT847

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>beaconing is boring - </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>do not often hear "real CW" QSO</FONT></DIV>
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Hi Chris,
I used an OMP 100W amp for my brief sortie onto 136kHz. I never blew=
 up any FETs, but never managed to get more than 50W out of it either.
Unless you want a linear mode go for the switching-on-and-off things=
 they're much more efficient.
Hugh M0WYE
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Subject: LF: AF Amps at 136


  Hi All,
  Just started constructing TX for 136kHz, noticed Maplin do a Vellema=
n audio PA kit that is rated at 200W (100W RMS into 4R). OK there's no=
 mains transformer or heat sink, but reckon it's good value at =A314.9=
9. Point is the specs also say the minus 3db frequency response is 3Hz=
 / 200kHz.
  The RSGB books 'LF Today' refer to using audio amps as PAs at 136 wi=
th 'a few modifications'. Does anybody know where these modifications=
 are documented? I guess there's nothing major, reduce a few cap value=
s? Remove Zobel Network etc.?? If anyone has experience with this appr=
oach I would appreciate some hints. Thanks.
  Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable.

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I used an OMP 100W amp for my brief=
 sortie onto=20
136kHz. I never blew up any FETs, but never managed to get more than=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Unless you want a linear mode go for=
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switching-on-and-off things they're much more efficient.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Just started constructing TX for 13=
6kHz, noticed=20
  Maplin do a Velleman audio PA kit that is rated at 200W (100W RMS in=
to 4R). OK=20
  there's no mains transformer or heat sink, but reckon it's good valu=
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re these=20
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henny cpm
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From: henny van elst 
To: blacksheep 
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 10:53 AM
Subject: XGJ 15-10.jpg


Hello Warren,LF,
Nice capture XGJ
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
XGJ 15-10.jpg

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thi is the capture of 16-10 Warren,LF</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>henny cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- 
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A   title=cpm@planet.nl href="mailto:cpm@planet.nl">henny van elst</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">blacksheep</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 16, 2009 10:53 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> XGJ 15-10.jpg</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello Warren,LF,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Nice capture XGJ</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het 
volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:<BR>XGJ 
15-10.jpg<BR><BR>Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging 
tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet 
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Hi Steve,
A small list of grabbers on the UK500KHZ Group web site at :-

http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers

Also my own grabber page for the UK, EU & USA bands at :-

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.

<http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers>

2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra.com>

> G'day All,
>
> In an expression of extreme optimism I am interested in getting details of
> 500kc beacons (preferably QRSS30 and slower) in Europe.    To get real-time
> confirmation of on-air status I am also looking for relevant local grabbers
> for those beacons.
>
> 73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)
>
>

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Hi Steve,<div><br></div><div>A small list of grabbers on the UK500KHZ Grou=
p web site at :-</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://groups.google.=
com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers">http://groups.google.com/group/uk=
500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>Also my own grabber page for the UK, EU &amp; USA band=
s at :-</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgt=
aylor/grabber2.html">http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html</a>=
</div>
<div><br></div><div>73</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.</di=
v><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/w=
eb/500-khz-grabbers"></a><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/5 VK2Z=
TO <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:vk2zto@djirra.com">vk2zto@djirr=
a.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">G&#39;day All,<br>
<br>
In an expression of extreme optimism I am interested in getting details of=
 500kc beacons (preferably QRSS30 and slower) in Europe. =A0 =A0To get rea=
l-time confirmation of on-air status I am also looking for relevant local=
 grabbers for those beacons.<br>

<br>
73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV) <br>
<br>
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>>> And I am Dr. QRPp!!    <<<<

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> Hi John
>
> And I am Dr. QRPp!!  You've tagged me 3 times so far.  My earth 
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> Roger Lapthorn wrote:
>> This evening and overnight I shall be running my little 500kHz WSPR 
>> beacon
>> in its "original" state (ERP around 6uW) before I start mods to the TX 
>> and
>> the antenna, hopefully resulting in stronger signals.
>
> I'm game for a try, looking now and will leave it running overnight.
> Already got G7NKS!
>
> Good luck,
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> John
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On 29 Oct 2009 at 10:44, Rik Strobbe wrote:

> Over the past days I monitored the G4JNT WSPR beacon 24/24.
> During daytime I have a weak but consistent copy of Andy's signal,
> average -24dB with ups and down of some dB. During nighttime the signal
> is -10dB on average, with the usual deep QSB (peaking -1dB, dips down to
> -20dB). But the most interesting observation is that in the afternoon
> the first peaks (from -24dB up to -8dB) occur as early as 15:45 UTC.
> This is almost 1 hour before sunset (16:37 UTC) and almost 1.5 hours
> before the D-layer (at mid point) goes into darkness.
> 
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
> 
> 

This behaviour on 500kHz mirrors closely that which we get on 160m. 
Certainly in the winter months and to some extent in the autumn the 
nearer continentals are audible on top band throughout the day and from 
1-2 hours before sunset more distant stations such as OK and OH start 
coming through. As always the problem is lack of activity, and events 
such as CQ160 and the Stew Perry contest show how much before sunset 
and after sunrise there is propagation. ON and PA0 are not really that 
far from G4JNT in Portsmouth so I am not really surprised you are 
copying them in the daytime. Here in Bracknell, IO91PJ, G4JNT is s9+ on 
the meter at all times, both as the normal beacon and WSPR.

I think the only thing different on 500kHz is the very slow QSB, which 
does seem unique to that band.

73 Dave G3YMC

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Hello Gary, Hello LF,

 

your signal is mostly clear audible in JN59LN with 559 in the peaks, but
very deep QSB-dips and sometime lost in QRN.

 

73's de Gerhard  //  DK6NI

 

==============================

 

 

 

  _____  

Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Gary - G4WGT
Gesendet: Sonntag, 11. Oktober 2009 20:45
An: Rsgb_Lf_Group
Betreff: Re: LF: 503.6kHz Test

 

Hi LF,

 

ERP increased to 2 watts.

 

73

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.

 

2009/10/11 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Hi LF,

 

I am testing my Class D Tx after a PA fail yesterday.

Frequency 503.6kHz

QRS03 at 5 minute intervals & CW ID.

1 watt ERP.

 

73

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.

 


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
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Hello Niels, Hello Mal,

 

Heard your CW-QSO at 20:15 UTC on 502.6 kHz in JN59LN;

Report for OZ8NJ:          569, vy loud signal!!

Report for G3KEV:        449, good readable;

 

vy 73 de Gerhard  /  DK6NI

 

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  _____  

Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
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Gesendet: Donnerstag, 1. Oktober 2009 20:02
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Betreff: LF: G3KEV QRV 500

 

Nw qrv 502.57 CW and QRS3 as appropriate for QSO also QSX 7033 for DX QSO's

De Mal/g3kev

 


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hello Niels, He=
llo Mal,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hea=
rd your CW-QSO at
20:15 UTC on 502.6 kHz in JN59LN;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Rep=
ort for OZ8NJ:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
 569,
vy loud signal!!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Rep=
ort for G3KEV:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 449,
good readable;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:=
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ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>vy=
 73 de Gerhard&nbsp; /&nbsp;
DK6NI<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:=
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p; <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Von:</span></font=
></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:Tahoma'> owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@black=
sheep.org</st1:PersonName> [mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">r=
sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName>] <b><span style=3D'font-w=
eight:bold'>Im Auftrag von </span></b>mal hamilton<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Donnerstag,=
 1. Oktober
2009 20:02<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b> rsgb<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> LF: G3KEV QRV=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Nw qrv 502.57 CW and&nbsp;QRS3&nbsp;as=
 appropriate for QSO
also QSX 7033 for DX QSO's</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
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Dear all,

tonight on Oktober 30th, 2009 around 23.00 UTC aural copy of SM6BGP on
501,4 kHz in eastern Bavaria, JN68GN; operating in QRSS and in between
also in normal speed; RST 559 with qsb. He sent his qth as JO67IK.

EI0CF was heard again in normal CW on 501,9 kHz 569 qsb, working
crossband with GM3BST. He also called F6CNI for crossband on 3566, but
this attempt failed. Finbar also mentioned having heard the SM6BGP
transmision.

Guess I should also prepare for crosband in November.

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB 


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On 17 Oct 2009 at 15:02, G3XBM wrote:

> Got some IRF510 FETs from Graham G3MFJ's club sales, so I've increased
> my 500kHz ERP by around 10dB to around 60uW (microwatts). Already G7NKS
> is spotting me 10dB stronger than ever before, which is an excellent
> sign. 
> 
> All being well, the WSPR beacon will run overnight tonight and all
> reports would be much appreciated.

153000  15  10  2.6   -62  0  G4JNT IO90 23         
153000   8 -20  5.2     8  1  G3XBM JO02 0  

Wow, only 30dB down on G4JNT! Well done Roger.

(sorry cannot upload as I am copying with WSJT7 which doesn't support 
the internet upload - but has an auto soundcard calibrator).

73 Dave G3YMC
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thank you Andrey and Jean-Pierre!
--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
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                WE2XGR/1

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 3:55 AM, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)"
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> Hello Andrey , Warren ,
> Very strong signal last night Warren !
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
> Andrey rn3agc a =E9crit :
>>
>> Hello Warren,
>> capture at ~02.01z
>>
>> 73 Andrey rn3agc
>>
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John P-G wrote:
> Walter
> 
> I've just started monitoring WSPR at 19:54UTC on 503.590 dial from Shetland
> 
> I hope to see your sigs soon. Spots are being uploaded to wspr.net


1954 -23  2.5   0.505089  0 DI2AG JN59 27
1956 -28  2.6   0.505089  0 DI2AG JN59 27
1958 -27  2.7   0.505089 -1 DI2AG JN59 27
2006 -21  2.7   0.505089  0 DI2AG JN59 27

Nice to see your signals so soon Walter.

WSPR.NET shows the distance as 1428km


Regards,

John
GM4SLV
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You would probably have more success if you transmitted CW or QRS 3.=
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De G3KEV

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 6:41 PM
  Subject: LF: 500kHz QRPp WSPRing tonight


  This evening and overnight I shall be running my little 500kHz WSPR=
 beacon in its "original" state (ERP around 6uW) before I start mods=
 to the TX and the antenna, hopefully resulting in stronger signals.=
 With 5 different stations reporting me I am hopeful of a few more bef=
ore getting stuck in.

  Please take a listen and do let me know if you spot me.

  Thanks everyone
  73s
  Roger G3XBM

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Dear Piotr, LF

Good MF conditions today:
2230 -26  0.2   0.503867  0 OR7T JO20 23
2230  -7  0.1   0.503924  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2230 -24  0.3   0.503951  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2234 -21  0.1   0.503867  0 OR7T JO20 23
2238  -8  0.0   0.503924  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2244 -31  0.0   0.503867  0 OR7T JO20 23
2244  -6  0.0   0.503924  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2252 -30  0.2   0.503867  0 OR7T JO20 23
2252  -1  0.2   0.503924  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2258 -29  0.2   0.503867  0 OR7T JO20 23
2258  -3  0.1   0.503924  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2306 -26  0.0   0.503867  0 OR7T JO20 23
2306  -1 -0.2   0.503924  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2306 -24  0.1   0.503950  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2310 -26  0.0   0.503867  0 OR7T JO20 23
2310  -8 -0.2   0.503924  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2312 -21  0.0   0.503950  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2316  -6  0.0   0.503924  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2316 -25  0.1   0.503950  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2318 -26  0.0   0.503867  0 OR7T JO20 23
2320 -24  0.0   0.503950  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2324  -6 -0.1   0.503924  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2324 -21 -0.1   0.503950  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2330 -26 -0.2   0.503866  0 OR7T JO20 23
2330  -6 -0.1   0.503924  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2332 -23 -0.3   0.503950  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2336 -24  0.1   0.503867  0 OR7T JO20 23
2338 -24 -0.2   0.503950  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2340  -9 -0.2   0.503924  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2342 -24  0.0   0.503867  0 OR7T JO20 23
2344  -2 -0.2   0.503924  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2352   2 -0.1   0.503924  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
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Marcin SQ2BXI


> Dear Andy, LF group
> 
> after many unsuccessful attempts  to get your wspr signal  positively 
> decoded
> today  i had more luck  .. here we go:
> 2252 -28  0.1   0.503855  0 G4JNT IO90 23
> 2300 -28  0.2   0.503854  0 G4JNT IO90 23
> the rx side is a modest one:  1sq.meter loop /two stage buffer/amplif/ 
> ft857d
> 
>                                       73 de Piotr, sq7mpj
> 
> qth: Lodz /jo91rs/
> 
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Tim,
Forgot to mention I have a multi grabber on my web site at :-

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html

<http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html>Have a look, top screen
covers UK, middle screen covers most of EU & USA & bottom screen is G4JNT's
beacon chart.

Gary.

2009/10/3 tim hague <m0afj@dsl.pipex.com>

> Gary - G4WGT wrote:
>
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>> Point the cursor at the right side of the Argo display & click the right
>> mouse button.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Gary - G4WGT.
>>
>> 2009/10/3 tim hague <m0afj@dsl.pipex.com <mailto:m0afj@dsl.pipex.com>>
>>
>>    I'm trying to set up Argo, I can get copy on the vertical
>>    waterfall but not the horizontal, any tips chaps?
>>
>>    Tim M0AFJ
>>
>>
>>  Thanks Gary, all working fine now, got good copy of Mal. I had the wrong
> frequency set on the RH slider..
> Is there a set frequency for QRS?, is it worth leaving the Rx on overnight?
>
>

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Tim,<div><br></div><div>Forgot to mention I have a multi grabber on my web=
 site at :-</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk=
/wgtaylor/grabber2.html">http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html=
</a></div>
<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber=
2.html"></a>Have a look, top screen covers UK, middle screen covers most=
 of EU &amp; USA &amp; bottom screen is G4JNT&#39;s beacon chart.</div><di=
v><br>
</div><div>Gary.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/3 tim hague <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:m0afj@dsl.pipex.com">m0afj@dsl.pipex.=
com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Gary - G4WGT wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"im">
Hi Tim,<br>
<br>
Point the cursor at the right side of the Argo display &amp; click the rig=
ht mouse button.<br>
<br>
73<br>
<br>
Gary - G4WGT.<br>
<br></div>
2009/10/3 tim hague &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:m0afj@dsl.pipex.com" target=3D"_=
blank">m0afj@dsl.pipex.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:m0afj@dsl.pipe=
x.com" target=3D"_blank">m0afj@dsl.pipex.com</a>&gt;&gt;<div class=3D"im">=
<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0I&#39;m trying to set up Argo, I can get copy on the vertical<br>
 =A0 =A0waterfall but not the horizontal, any tips chaps?<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0Tim M0AFJ<br>
<br>
<br>
</div></blockquote>
Thanks Gary, all working fine now, got good copy of Mal. I had the wrong=
 frequency set on the RH slider..<br>
Is there a set frequency for QRS?, is it worth leaving the Rx on overnight=
?<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br></div>

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Hi Clemens,

The beacon is on air now, but will be off again shortly. It should be
transmitting WSPR 1800-2300z Sunday evening.

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/10/25 Clemens Paul <cpaul@gmx.net>

>  Roger,
>
> this message came too late for me (already sleeping). :-)
> At which time will you run your beacon again his evening?
> It seems that around 22.00UTC signals from GB on 500kHz are peaking here.
>
> 73
> Clemens
> DL4RAJ
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>
> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 24, 2009 10:50 PM
> *Subject:* Re: LF: Re: 500kHz 1mW WSPR beaconing
>
> Clemens (et al),
>
> Just restarted the 500kHz WSPR beacon (have been out for a few hours) on
> 0.503910 +/-20Hz.
>
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM
>
> 2009/10/24 Clemens Paul <cpaul@gmx.net>
>
>>  Roger,
>>
>> what is your exact dial qrg?
>> Are you on air at present?
>> I'll watch out for your signal.
>>
>> 73
>> Clemens
>> DL4RAJ
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>
>> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 24, 2009 5:55 PM
>> *Subject:* LF: 500kHz 1mW WSPR beaconing
>>
>> This will be active periodically over the weekend. It would be nice to get
>> a few new reporters spotting me.
>>
>> 73s
>> Roger G3XBM
>>
>> --
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>> http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
>> G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088
>>
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>>
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>>
>
>
> --
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> G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088
>
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Hi Clemens,<br><br>The beacon is on air now, but will be off again shortly=
. It should be transmitting WSPR 1800-2300z Sunday evening.<br><br>73s<br>=
Roger G3XBM<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/25 Clemens Paul <spa=
n dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cpaul@gmx.net">cpaul@gmx.net</a>&gt;</=
span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">





<div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Roger,</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">this message came too late for me (al=
ready=20
sleeping). :-)</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">At which time will you run your beaco=
n again his=20
evening?</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">It seems that around 22.00UTC signals=
 from GB on=20
500kHz are peaking here.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">73<br>Clemens<br>DL4RAJ</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-right:=
 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;"><div class=
=3D"im">
  <div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: norm=
al; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-a=
djust: none; font-stretch: normal;">----- Original Message ----- </div>
  <div style=3D"background: rgb(228, 228, 228) none repeat scroll 0% 0%;=
 -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-backg=
round-inline-policy: continuous; font-family: arial; font-style: normal;=
 font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height:=
 normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">
<b>From:</b>=20
  <a title=3D"rogerlapthorn@gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:rogerlapthorn@gmail.=
com" target=3D"_blank">Roger=20
  Lapthorn</a> </div>
  <div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: norm=
al; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-a=
djust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"rsgb_lf_group@b=
lacksheep.org" href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_bla=
nk">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>=20
  </div>
  </div><div class=3D"im"><div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-style: no=
rmal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-hei=
ght: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b>=
 Saturday, October 24, 2009 10:50=20
  PM</div>
  <div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: norm=
al; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-a=
djust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: LF: Re: 500kHz 1mW=
 WSPR=20
  beaconing</div>
  <div><br></div></div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">Clemens (et al),<=
br><br>Just restarted the 500kHz WSPR beacon=20
  (have been out for a few hours) on 0.503910 +/-20Hz.<br><br>73s<br>Roger=
=20
  G3XBM<br><br>
  <div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/24 Clemens Paul <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:cpaul@gmx.net" target=3D"_blank">cpaul@gmx.net</a>&gt;<=
/span><br>
  <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(20=
4, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
    <div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
    <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Roger,</font></div>
    <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
    <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">what is your exact dial qrg?</fon=
t></div>
    <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Are you on air at present?</font>=
</div>
    <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">I&#39;ll watch out for your signa=
l.</font></div>
    <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
    <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">73<br>Clemens<br>DL4RAJ</font></d=
iv>
    <blockquote style=3D"border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-righ=
t: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;">
      <div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant:=
 normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-s=
ize-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">-----=20
      Original Message ----- </div>
      <div style=3D"background: rgb(228, 228, 228) none repeat scroll 0%=
 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-b=
ackground-inline-policy: continuous; font-family: arial; font-style: norma=
l; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height=
: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">
<b>From:</b>=20
      <a title=3D"rogerlapthorn@gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:rogerlapthorn@gm=
ail.com" target=3D"_blank">Roger Lapthorn</a> </div>
      <div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant:=
 normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-s=
ize-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b>=20
      <a title=3D"rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_gro=
up@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a> </di=
v>
      <div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant:=
 normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-s=
ize-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b>=20
      Saturday, October 24, 2009 5:55 PM</div>
      <div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant:=
 normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-s=
ize-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b>=20
      LF: 500kHz 1mW WSPR beaconing</div>
      <div><br></div>This will be active periodically over the weekend. It=
 would=20
      be nice to get a few new reporters spotting me.<br><br>73s<br>Roger=
=20
      G3XBM<br clear=3D"all"><br>--=20
      <br>-------------------------------------------------------------<br=
><a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://g3xbm=
-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk" target=3D"_bl=
ank">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678=20
      =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>
      <p></p>
      <hr>

      <p></p><br>No virus found in this incoming message.<br>Checked by AV=
G - <a href=3D"http://www.avg.com" target=3D"_blank">www.avg.com</a> <br>V=
ersion:=20
      8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.28/2454 - Release Date: 10/23/09=20
      14:09:00<br></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"a=
ll"><br>--=20
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p.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk" target=3D"_blank=
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G3XBM =A0=20
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=20
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  Date: 10/23/09 14:09:00<br></div></div></blockquote></div>
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Hi LF,
There is a strong signal on 503.930Khz running WSPR but using odd minutes
instead of even minutes.

Cannot get a decode, who is that ??

Gary - G4WGT.

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Hi LF,<div><br></div><div>There is a strong signal on 503.930Khz running WSPR but using odd minutes instead of even minutes.</div><div><br></div><div>Cannot get a decode, who is that ??</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT.</div>

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Getting a signal from G0VSJ  cw beacon on 503.25  , sig about S4 in io=
83lk
giving  qth as io82tp  .. I think was the beacon I picked up last week=
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Throb 2 beacon on 503.000 =20

running  :  fldigi , throb mode -2- center  frequency  503.000 Khz=20

TX  set USB , Rx 'on during  60 second tx pause ,

Interested to  see  how the  mode prints / recovers  in the  noise /=
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Reports welcome ,

Tnx - Graham
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>running&nbsp; :&nbsp; </FONT><FONT si=
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; 60 second tx=20
pause ,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Interested to&nbsp; see&nbsp; how the=
&nbsp; mode=20
prints / recovers &nbsp;in the&nbsp; noise / qsb&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
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Hi Henry
Thanks capture SP2KDS Henny.
73!
Marcin SQ2BXI


Hi LF,
Capture HF70W
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hi Henny and LF group=20
last night when my transmission I had a problem with the computer .
.. bjo truth is indicative BOJ .. my apologies friends=20
Claude f8boj JN16WA

  ----- Original Message -----=20

  From: henny van elst=20
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  Hi LF,
  Strong signal JBO
  Henny pa3cpm
  73s
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Mal,

> I have seen some similar type antennas while flying across the USA years=
 ago
> painted RED and WHITE if I remember correctly.
> That was in the days when LF and MF were the norm for broadcasting, befo=
re
> the advent of FM and satellites, although there is still plenty of LF/MF
> broadcasting but mainly low power local stations these days, and antenna
> masts are more modest structures than they used to be.

       Towers are still pained red and white for visibility.
There has never been any LF broadcasting in the US.

There is a big Blaw-Knox tower in Nashville, Tennessee for station WSM
(650kHz) and a smaller one in Manchester, NH.
The Manchester NH Blaw-Knox tower has been used by hams after hours on
160 meters.

There are just as many high power MW stations and big towers in the US
as before, but now it is common for formerly daytime only stations to
have reduced power at night which creates QRM for MW dxers.

--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1





On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 11:21 AM, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrot=
e:
> I have seen some similar type antennas while flying across the USA years=
 ago
> painted RED and WHITE if I remember correctly.
> That was in the days when LF and MF were the norm for broadcasting, befo=
re
> the advent of FM and satellites, although there is still plenty of LF/MF
> broadcasting but mainly low power local stations these days, and antenna
> masts are more modest structures than they used to be.
> de mal/g3kev
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clemens Paul" <cpaul@gmx.net>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 4:03 PM
> Subject: LF: Re: Circa 1930s 545 kc in Budapest
>
>
>> How about that?
>> http://www.waniewski.de/id414.htm
>>
>> HTH
>> 73
>> Clemens
>> DL4RAJ
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dexter McIntyre W4DEX"
>> <dmcintyre@att.net>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 4:29 PM
>> Subject: LF: Circa 1930s 545 kc in Budapest
>>
>>
>>> I have a 1936 edition of Electrical Engineers Handbook by Pender -
>>> McIlwain
>>> which show a diagram of a 1030 foot antenna in Budapest used on 545 kc=
.
>>> So far
>>> I have found no history on this antenna. =A0Anyone have any info on th=
is
>>> station
>>> and antenna's history?
>>>
>>> Dex
>>
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Hello Peter,

thanks for the report.
Condx seems to be good tonight. Beste decodes I got so far are LA6TPA (155=
2km), TF3HZ (2123km) and AA1A (5598km).

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
________________________________________
Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or=
g] namens Piotr M=B3ynarski [sq7mpj@toya.net.pl]
Verzonden: zaterdag 17 oktober 2009 23:33
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: LF: OR7T wspr

Dear Rick, LF group
it is my first decode of ur wspr signal
2118 -21  1.4   0.503868  0 OR7T JO20 23
2118 -22  0.8   0.503929  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
it was also sent  to wspr database

                    73 de Piotr, sq7mpj

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Roger,

what is your exact dial qrg?
Are you on air at present?
I'll watch out for your signal.

73
Clemens
DL4RAJ
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Roger Lapthorn
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  Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 5:55 PM
  Subject: LF: 500kHz 1mW WSPR beaconing


  This will be active periodically over the weekend. It would be nice to get a few new reporters 
spotting me.

  73s
  Roger G3XBM

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Roger,</FONT></DIV>
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yes it is John,
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From: YO2IS
  Pleased to receive today a nice QSL, from G3KEV, Mal,
 confirming our crossband CW QSO 502.5 / 7033 KHz.
 It's a first one for me and a new one for YO ...
  Will randomly run the YO2X beacon testing the setup.
 QRG 505.763 KHz, 41m sloping wire and abt 100W input
 PIC keyer in QRSS3 and CW id.
  Some 137.7 KHz activity is also planned depending on
 the level of the urban QRM. Have to test for 137 KHz
 reception, the K9AY loop versus the tunned multiturn-
 loop located under the roof etc.
  BTW, some days ago got the 'RSGB 136KHz Award' #10
 for 6 confirmed DXCC entities ( 3 on CW, 3 on QRSS3 ).
  Hope the cold weather will bring more trafic on VLF.
    73 & DX, Szigy.


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Thanks for the FB report Chris.

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/10/25 Chris <c.ashby435@btinternet.com>

>  G3XBM WSPR signal arriving here fine at the moment at -21db, 0.503924,
> Drift 1.
> 73 all,
> Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, JO01MI.
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Thanks for the FB report Chris.<br><br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br><br><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/25 Chris <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
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<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">G3XBM WSPR signal arriving here fine=
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moment=A0at -21db, 0.503924, Drift 1.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">73 all,</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent,=20
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Hi LF,
Just started WSPR a few minutes ago, initial settings incorrect, power is
now set correctly at 50mW (17dbm) ERP not the initial 500mW (27dbm) ERP.

73

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Hi LF,<div><br></div><div>Just started WSPR a few minutes ago, initial settings incorrect, power is now set correctly at 50mW (17dbm) ERP not the initial 500mW (27dbm) ERP.</div><div><br></div><div>73</div><div><br></div><div>
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Great capture, thanks Henny!

-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1



2009/10/7 henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>:
> Hello Warren,LF
> Capture XGJ
> Henny cpm
> best 73s
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden
> verzonden:
> XGJ 07-10.jpg


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Dear Paul-Henrik, LF

Nice copy from SM6BGP. Raport on normal CW 438 / QSB.
Distance 496km, my antenna windom 1,8MHz (83m long).
--
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI



Hello LF

501.4kHz, 20091030 2100UTC:

Just receiving SM6BGP in JO67IK. Seems to be in becaon mode CW + QRSS.

Good signal on 1 x 1 metre square loop with homemade 2 x 2N5109 loop
amplifier.


New callsign for me on this band, good luck with the operation.


Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
Vaasa / KP03SD



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Danke Michael f=FCr den Rapport. Immerhin 275km.
73 de ASB

2009/10/24, Michael Oexner <michael.oexner@web.de>:
> Hi Toni,
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>> 18:40 UTC now calling CQ on 137.710 in QRS3, 73 de Toni
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> Good copy of your signal in JN49bf - cf. screenshot.
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> RX: ICOM R75, SDR-IQ, Perseus
> Antenna: Wellbrook ALA 1530, Mini-Whip
> Location: Roschbach, Germany N 49=B015' E 8=B007' / Locator JN49BF
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Seems to me that measuring ERP at LF is a bit of a problem. On here I=
 have read comments referring to a stations ERP by various operators=
 : 'Estimate', 'Guess', 'Approx.', 'Reckon I'm fairly close to...', 'A=
pproaching' etc. Nobody REALLY knows exactly! Even Mike's book, 'LF To=
day - A guide to success on 136kHz', refers to certain 'estimates' hav=
ing to be made. The last sentence on the bottom of p81 just about sums=
 it up.
I don't know what the answer is, but it is clear that ERP at LF is far=
 more complex than at VHF/UHF etc. where 'full size' antennas are gene=
rally used.
Chris, G4AYT.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Seems to me that measuring ERP at LF=
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problem. On here I have read comments referring to a stations ERP by=
 various=20
operators&nbsp;: 'Estimate', 'Guess', 'Approx.', 'Reckon I'm fairly cl=
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to...', 'Approaching' etc. Nobody REALLY knows exactly! Even Mike's bo=
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Not really stable for low speeds.
 
F4DTL  Nicolas JN18FP
RX : Icom IC7400
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G'day Steve.

* VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra.com> [Tue, 6 Oct 2009 19:15:34 +1100]:
> G'day All,
>
> I had a look at the RW3ADB grabber and I see exactly the same
> characteristic
> signal here in VK-land on 499,993 Hz.    Can't think what it might be.
>
> Sometimes it looks like one or two second dots and sometimes it looks
> continuous.
>
> Attached are two comparisons.
>
> Any clues ?


Two variants Steve:
1) Russian Army use an IF 500Kc. May be a heterodynes signals. But how 
is rx'd in AU? )
2) Pulse-Power converters.

>
> 73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)
>
> * "VK2ZTO_DownUnder_499993Hz.gif"
> * "RW3ADB_Grabber_499993Hz.gif"


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Lubos

Can you  make a  small email  audio recording , that would be  useful=
 ?

tnx - G ..


From: Lubos OK2BVG=20
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:49 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: RE: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000


Hello Graham, LF!
Sorry, but I use my computer together with SDR-IQ as a LF receiver and=
 I haven=B4t got the other PC for decoding THROB packets. But your sig=
nal is nice!

Lubos, OK2BVG


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From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:34:27 +0000
Subject: Re: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000


Tnx Lubos=20

Are  you  able to  decode any of the  signal ???

I use  > http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html

Tnx - Graham ..


From: Lubos OK2BVG=20
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:05 PM
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Hello Graham, LF!
I see your beacon=B4s packets very well.

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:28:12 +0000
Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency=20

TX set  502.000 USB
Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency=20

Repeat time 60  seconds =20

RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'  time=20

Reports / observations  =20

Tnx  Graham

G0NBD - IO83LK =20




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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Lubos</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Can you&nbsp; make a&nbsp; small email &nbsp;a=
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recording , that would be&nbsp; useful ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>tnx - G ..</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dbvgbob@hotmai=
l.com   href=3D"mailto:bvgbob@hotmail.com">Lubos OK2BVG</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:49 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><BR></DIV>Hello Graham, LF!<BR>Sorry, but I use my computer toget=
her with=20
SDR-IQ as a LF receiver and I haven=B4t got the other PC for decoding=
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packets. But your signal is nice!<BR><BR>Lubos, OK2BVG<BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Tnx Lubos </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Are&nbsp; you&nbsp; able to&nbsp; decode any=
 of the&nbsp;=20
signal ???</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I use&nbsp; &gt; <A   href=3D"http://www.w1hkj=
.com/Fldigi.html">http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Tnx - Graham ..</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:05 PM</DIV>
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&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@black=
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<DIV><BR></DIV>Hello Graham, LF!<BR>I see your beacon=B4s packets very=
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well.<BR><BR>73!<BR><BR>Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<BR>
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Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:28:12 +0000<BR>Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.0=
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<BR><BR>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; THROB-2-&nbsp; Beacon&n=
bsp;&nbsp;=20
503.000 khz centre&nbsp; frequency </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>TX set&nbsp; 502.000 USB</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Audio&nbsp; 1000 Hz cent frequency </=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Repeat time 60&nbsp; seconds&nbsp; </=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>RX&nbsp; 'ON'&nbsp; during cycle tx=
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&nbsp;time </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Reports / observations&nbsp;&nbsp; </=
FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx&nbsp; Graham</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G0NBD - IO83LK </FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><BR=
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Hello Jim, LF,
OK watching & plotting my signal. I am watching my signal on Andrey's
grabber in Moscow & the QSB is very prominent. Judging from the grabber
trace it must audible there at times.

Image attached.

I would be interested in seeing the plot Jim, may Tx until about 2300utc.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.


2009/10/11 James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>

> Dear Gary, LF Group,
>
> The bigger signal from G4WGT reaches peaks of about 589 here at the moment
> - it is quite interesting to watch the received level going up and down over
> a range of 25dB or so with the QSB. I am running the Spec Lab plotter at the
> moment to see what it looks like over a period of time.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>

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Hello Jim, LF,<div><br></div><div>OK watching &amp; plotting my signal. I=
 am watching my signal on Andrey&#39;s grabber in Moscow &amp; the QSB is=
 very prominent. Judging from the grabber trace it must audible there at=
 times.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Image attached.</div><div><br></div><div>I would be in=
terested in seeing the plot Jim, may Tx until about 2300utc.</div><div><br=
></div><div>73</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.</div><div>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/11 James Moritz <span dir=3D"lt=
r">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:james.moritz@btopenworld.com">james.moritz@btopen=
world.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Dear Gary, LF Group,<br>
<br>
The bigger signal from G4WGT reaches peaks of about 589 here at the moment=
 - it is quite interesting to watch the received level going up and down=
 over a range of 25dB or so with the QSB. I am running the Spec Lab plotte=
r at the moment to see what it looks like over a period of time.<br>

<br>
Cheers, Jim Moritz<br>
73 de M0BMU <br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br></div>

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Vernon,

Set the dial to 502.4kHz USB.  You wom't hear me with my 1mW ERP, but you
will hear some of the stronger EUs like SM6BHZ and OR7T I expect.

73s
Roger G3XBM


2009/10/29 Vernon <vmath@eastlink.ca>

> Hi everyone.....what dial frequency is everyone using for 500khz wspr....I
> finally have my long wires out and have been monitoring. I can leave WSPR
> running almost 24/7 to see if I can catch a WSPR signal from across the
> pond. I did catch a couple last year which was great!!!
> 502.4k
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> Vernon - VE1VDM
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Vernon,<br><br>Set the dial to 502.4kHz USB.=A0 You wom&#39;t hear me with=
 my 1mW ERP, but you will hear some of the stronger EUs like SM6BHZ and OR=
7T I expect.<br><br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e">2009/10/29 Vernon <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:vmath@eastlin=
k.ca">vmath@eastlink.ca</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hi everyone....=
.what dial frequency is everyone using for 500khz wspr....I finally have=
 my long wires out and have been monitoring. I can leave WSPR running almo=
st 24/7 to see if I can catch a WSPR signal from across the pond. I did ca=
tch a couple last year which was great!!!<br>

502.4k<br>
Regards,<br><font color=3D"#888888">
<br>
Vernon - VE1VDM<br>
FN85ij <br>
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2009/10/12 Andrey rn3agc <rn3agc@mail.ru>:
> Hello Warren, Lubos, LF,
> Capture at 0.30.
>
> 73 Andrey
>
>
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>> I saw part of your callsign only.
>>
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Chris,

I was wondering what was going for a while ! good  signal with me in=
 io82lk, but  =3Df6ci=3D was just on the edge at times with  qsb .. lo=
oks to be about 450  miles from my qth, so  that's  possibly in the sk=
ip zone , didn't look on the  two grabbers , often see a good signal=
 at Birmingham that's  not  showing at my qth or very well at  Gary's=
 and that's only  about 80 miles south  of 'us'=20

Looks like these low long wires radiate quite well at 500 , the high=
 angle seems to  help the  'short' skip ?

G ..=20



From: Chris Osborn=20
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 10:02 PM
To: LF Group=20
Subject: LF: ON / F6CNI / P on MF


Yes chaps your ears did not deceive you.
Andy is operating on 500 kc/s today and maybe tomorrow.
A call on the band tonight may rouse him.

He has a 150m long and 20m high aerial but is only running=20
5 watts output !
Nonetheless he was 579 with me (IO92UB) and a good solid
signal.

He says that he will be back in ON and QRV the weekend after=20
next.

73 Chris G3XIZ







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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I was wondering what was going for a=
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<DIV>Yes chaps your ears did not deceive you.<BR>Andy is operating on=
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Hi Gary

 

U r audible in IO92ub at abt S5 peaking to S7 (503.6) on my IC735 and
poor/average invtd L.   Looking on the traces on HRD/DM780 I can see your
dashes and dots.  There is quite a bit of QRN here tonight

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS

 

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
Sent: 11 October 2009 19:12
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Subject: LF: 503.6kHz Test

 

Hi LF,

 

I am testing my Class D Tx after a PA fail yesterday.

Frequency 503.6kHz

QRS03 at 5 minute intervals & CW ID.

1 watt ERP.

 

73

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>U r audible in=
 IO92ub at abt S5 peaking to
S7 (503.6) on my IC735 and &nbsp;poor/average invtd L. &nbsp;&nbsp;Loo=
king on the traces on
HRD/DM780 I can see your dashes and dots. &nbsp;There is quite a bit=
 of QRN here
tonight<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
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owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksh=
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 11 October 2009=
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Rsgb_Lf_Group<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: 503.6kHz=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
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Hell Nicolas and all
Many thanks for the capture
GOOD night
Claude f8boj
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Hello Henny captured last evening.
  The stong signal it's F8BOJ.

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  <DIV>Hello Henny captured last evening.</DIV>
  <DIV>The stong signal it's F8BOJ.</DIV>
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Graham,

Thanks Graham.  See my post to Gary for an explanation of what I had=
 in mind.

Please note - it was not my intent to have a whinge - I was just puzzl=
ed more than anything else...

It is all a bit academic anyway - going on past behaviour it will be=
 another decade before we get access (if at all) to 600M down here. =
   The Kiwis are streets ahead wrt to getting new bands approved as us=
ual.

Thanks.

73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Graham=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 3:25 AM
  Subject: Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers....


  Steve=20

  You spotted the  deliberate  mistake ...  the grabber page on the =
 group is sort of maintained .. but  everything is running  on a as an=
d when basis  . I added the pages when they where live .. but  as you=
  can see  .. not  all are now  running ...and as for the  beacons ..=
 e'rrrrr   well  permanent beacons  are not  allowed .. except G4JNT=
 who is now running  dual mode .(need to  get the  final power level=
 for  wspr).. and so on into the  night  ..

  If anyone has a live 500 grabber that they would  like to  list  on=
 the page , please  email the  web link and I will add  it  to the 'to=
p'  of the   page .. or if you  find one  let 'us' know !=20

  tnx - Graham

  G0NBD





  From: VK2ZTO=20
  Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 12:13 PM
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Subject: Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers....


  G'day Gary,

  There currently seems to be a rend in the time-space continuum here=
 down under in VK-land....

  Apart from your site - for which I get a "can't connect".

  From the links on the Google site I get the following results.

  1. GM4SLV - last grab Jan 2009.
  2. CT1DRP - last grab Nov 2008.
  3. Hartmut Wolff - last grab Nov 2008.
  4. GM4ISM - can't connect.
  5. DF6NM - last grab May 2008.
  6. RN3AGC - can't connect.

  The only one that works is the http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/ link=
.

  What am I missing ?

  73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Gary - G4WGT=20
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
    Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 8:28 PM
    Subject: Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers....


    Hi Steve,=20


    A small list of grabbers on the UK500KHZ Group web site at :-


    http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers


    Also my own grabber page for the UK, EU & USA bands at :-


    http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html


    73


    Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.





    2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra.com>

      G'day All,

      In an expression of extreme optimism I am interested in getting=
 details of 500kc beacons (preferably QRSS30 and slower) in Europe. =
   To get real-time confirmation of on-air status I am also looking fo=
r relevant local grabbers for those beacons.

      73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)=20






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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Graham,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks Graham.&nbsp; See my post to=
 Gary for an=20
explanation of what I had in mind.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Please note - it was not my intent to=
 have a whinge=20
- I was just puzzled more than anything else...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>It is all a bit academic anyway - goi=
ng on past=20
behaviour it will be another decade before we get access (if at all)=
 to 600M=20
down here.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The Kiwis are streets ahead wrt to gettin=
g new=20
bands approved as usual.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)</FONT></DIV>
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 black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dg8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk     href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fs=
net.co.uk">Graham</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@=
blacksheep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_l=
f_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
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09 3:25=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: 500kc beacon=
s and=20
  grabbers....</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Steve </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>You spotted the&nbsp; deliberate&nb=
sp; mistake=20
  ...&nbsp; the grabber page on the&nbsp; group is sort of maintained=
 ..=20
  but&nbsp; everything is running&nbsp; on a as and when basis&nbsp;=
 . I added=20
  the pages when they where live .. but&nbsp; as you&nbsp; can see&nbs=
p; ..=20
  not&nbsp; all are now&nbsp; running ...and as for the&nbsp; beacons=
=20
  ..&nbsp;e'rrrrr &nbsp; well&nbsp; permanent beacons&nbsp; are not&nb=
sp;=20
  allowed .. except G4JNT who is now running&nbsp; dual mode .(need to=
&nbsp; get=20
  the&nbsp; final power level for&nbsp; wspr).. and so on into the&nbs=
p;=20
  night&nbsp; ..</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>If anyone has a live 500 grabber th=
at they=20
  would&nbsp; like to&nbsp; list&nbsp; on the page , please&nbsp; emai=
l=20
  the&nbsp; web link and I will add&nbsp; it&nbsp; to&nbsp;the&nbsp;'t=
op'&nbsp;=20
  of the&nbsp; &nbsp;page .. or if you&nbsp; find one&nbsp; let 'us'=
 know !=20
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>tnx - Graham</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G0NBD</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A     title=3D"mailto=
:vk2zto@djirra.com&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"     href=3D"mailto=
:vk2zto@djirra.com">VK2ZTO</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 05, 2009 12:13 PM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A     title=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&=
#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers....</DIV></D=
IV></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G'day Gary,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>There currently seems to be a rend=
 in the=20
  time-space continuum here down under in VK-land....</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Apart from your site - for which I=
 get a "can't=20
  connect".</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>From the links on&nbsp;the Google=
 site I get the=20
  following results.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>1. GM4SLV - last grab Jan 2009.</FO=
NT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>2. CT1DRP - last grab Nov 2008.</FO=
NT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>3. Hartmut Wolff - last grab Nov=20
  2008.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>4. GM4ISM - can't connect.</FONT></=
DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>5. DF6NM - last grab May 2008.</FON=
T></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>6. RN3AGC - can't connect.</FONT></=
DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>The only one that works is the <A=
     href=3D"http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/" rel=3Dnofollow><FONT si=
ze=3D2     face=3D"Times New Roman">http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/</=
FONT></A>&nbsp;link.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>What am I missing ?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)</FONT></DIV=
>
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV=
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    <DIV       style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-co=
lor: black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dg4wgt@tiscali.co.uk href=3D"mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk"=
>Gary -=20
    G4WGT</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A       title=3Drsgb_l=
f_group@blacksheep.org       href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o=
rg">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 05,=
 2009 8:28=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: 500kc beac=
ons and=20
    grabbers....</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>Hi Steve,=20
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV>A small list of grabbers on the UK500KHZ Group web site at :-=
</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><A       href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/=
500-khz-grabbers">http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-=
grabbers</A></DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV>Also my own grabber page for the UK, EU &amp; USA bands at :-=
</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><A       href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2=
.html">http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html</A></DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV>73</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><A       href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/=
500-khz-grabbers"></A><BR><BR>
    <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A=
       href=3D"mailto:vk2zto@djirra.com">vk2zto@djirra.com</A>&gt;</SP=
AN><BR>
    <BLOCKQUOTE       style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0p=
x 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"       class=3Dgmail_quote>G'day Al=
l,<BR><BR>In an expression of extreme optimism I=20
      am interested in getting details of 500kc beacons (preferably QR=
SS30 and=20
      slower) in Europe. &nbsp; &nbsp;To get real-time confirmation of=
 on-air=20
      status I am also looking for relevant local grabbers for those=
=20
      beacons.<BR><BR>73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)=20
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Hi,LF
Capture WPF
Henny cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
WPF 06-10.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi,LF</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Capture WPF</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:<BR>WPF 06-10.jpg<BR><BR>Opmerking: 
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David,

You might try some web searching on the subject, as there is some 
material on calibrating receiving setups and making field measurements. 
Here's one possibility:
http://www.w1tag.com/LF_FSM.htm

John, W1TAG

David Weinreich wrote:
> Jim,
>  
> Thanks very much for the explanation it's very helpful. Too bad there 
> aren't very many calibrated receivers and antennas.
>  
> 73,
>  
> David Weinreich
> WA2VUJ/3
> 
>  >>>
> *From: *  "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
> *To:*     <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> *Date: *  10/07/09 4:02 PM
> *Subject: *   Re: LF:  Re Propagation report
> 
> Dear David, LF Group,
> 
> There are basically two ways of determining ERP, briefly:
> 
> Method 1 is to calculate the radiation resistance (Rrad) of your antenna,
> which can be done using various text-book formulae, or using antenna
> simulation software like EZNEC or similar. Then you measure the RF current
> flowing in the antenna (Iant). The ERP is then Iant^2 x Rrad x 1.8 (1.8 is
> the directivity of electrically small vertical or loop antennas, which in
> practice is what all amateur 136kHz antennas are).
> 
> Method 2 is to measure the field strength some km from the antenna. The ERP
> is then (E x d)^2 /49, where E is the field strength, d distance in metres.
> This requires a calibrated antenna and measuring receiver, so is more
> complicated to do.
> 
> Method 1 is simpler to do, but yields ERP results that tend to be lower 
> than
> those obtained by method 2. This is thought to be due to various combined
> environmental effects on the antenna, which are not accounted for in the
> simple calculation. So to get a more accurate and definitive figure, you
> need to do method 2, but as far as compliance with licence conditions is
> concerned, method 1 is a conservative way of checking.
> 
> Good luck in your efforts!
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> but From: "David Weinreich" <David.Weinreich@globalstar.com>
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> 
> 
> Peter,
> 
> As an interested observer from the other side of the pond, how do you
> determine that you are close to the ERP limit?? I'd be interested in 
> knowing
> as I am trying to do some pro-bono work for the ARRL on getting use of 137
> kHz here in the USA.
> 
> Tnx & 73,
> 
> David Weinreich
> WA2VUJ/3
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Hi Chris, LF,
The WSPR signal in question became sync'd shorty after & it was SM6BHZ, I
don't understand how it could be starting on the odd minute.

I haven't yet had any decodes from G3XBM, maybe soon as he improves the
station & conditions improve as we go into winter.

73

Gary - G4WGT.


2009/10/22 Chris <c.ashby435@btinternet.com>

>  Hi All,
> Gary: Could the undecoded signal you saw have been G3XBM, according to me
> he was on 503933?
> WSPR decodes here last night from G3XBM, G4JNT, G7NKS, OR7T and SM6BHZ.
> Horst: Agree with most comments on the PA0DRT active antenna. Mine works
> very well, signal strength is less than my long wire (at 500kHz), but the
> signal to noise ratio much better. At 136kHz and lower the signal strength
> is much better than the (non resonant) long wire. Its performance is quite
> impressive.
> Jim: SAQ is usually an excellent fully audible signal here on the PA0DRT
> active antenna.
> Vy 73, Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, (JO01MI).
>

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Hi Chris, LF,<div><br></div><div>The WSPR signal in question became sync&#=
39;d shorty after &amp; it was SM6BHZ, I don&#39;t understand how it could=
 be starting on the odd minute.</div><div><br></div><div>I haven&#39;t yet=
 had any decodes from G3XBM, maybe soon as he improves the station &amp;=
 conditions improve as we go into winter.</div>
<div><br></div><div>73</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT.</div><div><b=
r><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/22 Chris <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
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<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Gary: Could the undecoded signal you=
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G3XBM, according to me he was on 503933?</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">WSPR=A0decodes here last night from=
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G4JNT, G7NKS, OR7T and SM6BHZ.=A0</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Horst: Agree with most comments on th=
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active antenna. Mine works very well, signal strength is less than my long=
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Tnx Lubos=20

Are  you  able to  decode any of the  signal ???

I use  > http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html

Tnx - Graham ..


From: Lubos OK2BVG=20
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:05 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: RE: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000


Hello Graham, LF!
I see your beacon=B4s packets very well.

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:28:12 +0000
Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency=20

TX set  502.000 USB
Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency=20

Repeat time 60  seconds =20

RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'  time=20

Reports / observations  =20

Tnx  Graham

G0NBD - IO83LK =20




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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Tnx Lubos </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Are&nbsp; you&nbsp; able to&nbsp; decode any=
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signal ???</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I use&nbsp; &gt; <A   href=3D"http://www.w1hkj=
.com/Fldigi.html">http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Tnx - Graham ..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:bvg=
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:05 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> RE: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000</DIV></DIV></DIV=
>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Hello Graham, LF!<BR>I see your beacon=B4s packets very=
=20
well.<BR><BR>73!<BR><BR>Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<BR>
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<BR><BR>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; THROB-2-&nbsp; Beacon&n=
bsp;&nbsp;=20
503.000 khz centre&nbsp; frequency </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>TX set&nbsp; 502.000 USB</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Audio&nbsp; 1000 Hz cent frequency </=
FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Repeat time 60&nbsp; seconds&nbsp; </=
FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>RX&nbsp; 'ON'&nbsp; during cycle tx=
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&nbsp;time </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Reports / observations&nbsp;&nbsp; </=
FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx&nbsp; Graham</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G0NBD - IO83LK </FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><BR=
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10dB over QRN/LX at 1429z.

F5VLF

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********

On 18/10/2009 at 15:30 Marco IK1ODO wrote:

>IK1HSS calling CQ at 137.750 QRSS3 1330z
>
>Anyone?
>
>73 - Marco IK1ODO






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On 23/10/2009 at 21:54 Graham wrote:

>> *** 'crazy'?  That's nothing.  According to UK automobile regulations,
>the=20
>> Reliant Robin (a 3-wheeled vehicle with a fully enclosed fibreglass
>body)=20
>> is a motorcycle

I should have put motor tricycle.

>Oh no its not   ...  Its a  motorcycle  combination .. ie  motorcycle wit=
h=20
>a side  car .and has 3 wheels ... with  only  one driven   . just happens

According to the registration documents for my Reliants, they were motor=
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Most GRABBERS are not available most of the time, either switched off=
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I often hear signals which do not appear on the GRABBERS.
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LF,
Capture WPF
Henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
WPF 04-10.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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Hello Ha-Jo, LF

Finbar and me had a "X-band" QSO, EI->OH on 501.9kHz while OH->EI was brid=
ged
with the aid of SMS-messages :) . I had no TX capability on 80m last night=
 as
my inverted-L antenna was set up for wideband RX. I also had Finbar QSP my
"live" SMS-reports to other stations he worked 500/500. This is the reason=
 my
call was mentioned quite a few times on 501.9 last night.

Have to keep the spirit alive on this band somehow while the authorities=
 here
keep on refusing amateur / experimantal access for unmentionable reasons=
 that
are hard to accept.

73

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
Vaasa / KP03SD

Quoting hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de:

> Dear all,
>
> G3LDO could be heard again 559 in QRSS on 501,1 kHz around 21.15 UTC,
> October 9th, in
> eastern Bavaria, JN68GN.
>
> Even more interesting was the CW signal of EI0CF, RST 579, from 21.17
> until 21.50
> UTC. At first he was in QSO on 501,9 kHz (obviously with Louis,
> PA0LCE?). Then he heard G3XIZ and they moved to 503 kHz. G3XIZ could be
> "estimated" too for a while, but readibility remainded very poor.
>
> PA0LCE could not be heard. OH1LSQ (?) was also mentioned in this CW
> traffic. Sometimes reading of the CW signals was rather difficult due to
> very short qsb, swallowing several letters of a word, even within the
> usually rather strong transmission of EI0CF. But in general it was very
> interesting to listen.
>
> Hope condx down to Bavaria improve during the winter months.
>
> 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB
>
>




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Hi all on LF ,

On the grabber , very good activity last night !
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

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Yesterday evening report from RN3AGC at 1821 utc G3KEV readable, follo=
wed by a QSO with OZ8NJ he was 589 and copied me at 599, solid QSO and=
 no QSB noticeable. Reports from others include OH1LSQ and DK6NI.
Thanks to all.=20
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Dear LF Group,

Quite a few stations in the QRSS segment around 137.7kHz tonight, with a 
reasonably low QRN level for a change  - I had a QSO with HB9ASB for the 
first time in several years. Also RU6LA a good signal, but no reply , 
although I tried DFCW10. Also saw G4WGT, and possibly F4DTL and OK2BVG. 
There is someone sending QRSS60 at about 137.776k, but only an "L" copied so 
far.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 



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Hello Paul-Henrik, LF,
I hear OZ8NJ, RST 579, freq. 502150

73 Andrey


> Hello LF
> 
> Just receiving CQ DE OZ8NJ 2008UTC on 502.5kHz +/- RST 589 - 599. A truly
> massive signal at the moment.
> 
> Frequency is changing around a bit, not like drift, more like the operator is
> adjusting controls.
> 
> Now G3KEV is relpying to the CQ with RST 579.
> 
> 
> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
> Vaasa / KP03SD






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Hi Warren thanks for your concern....yes I am fine if somewhat overworked at
present, and I have also been running up a new computer so having to
transfer all the apps....I promise I will get it up and running again
soon....

Thanks and Best Wishes
Alan G3NYK

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> I have noted that Alan Melia has not updated his propagation  report
> since the 7th of July!
> Hope all is well with Alan!
>
>
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>                 WD2XGJ
>                 WD2XSH/23
>                 WE2XEB/2
>                 WE2XGR/1
>



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Thank you  for the  report Gerhard=20

Be interested as to your  comments on the  decode , compared to the =
 psk qso=20
as it looks like the  condx are worse ?=20

What is the  peak signal level ?

tnx - G=20



From: Graham=20
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Subject: LF: Throb -2- Beacon running on 503.000 center frequency


Throb 2 beacon on 503.000 =20

running  :  fldigi , throb mode -2- center  frequency  503.000 Khz=20

TX  set USB , Rx 'on during  60 second tx pause ,

Interested to  see  how the  mode prints / recovers  in the  noise /=
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Reports welcome ,

Tnx - Graham
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Throb 2 beacon on 503.000&nbsp; </FON=
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pause ,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Interested to&nbsp; see&nbsp; how the=
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prints / recovers &nbsp;in the&nbsp; noise / qsb&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Reports welcome</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT siz=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx - Graham</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G0NBD</FONT></DIV>
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Thanks Clemens.

Yes, I think you are right and I need to significantly reduce the losses in
my antenna and ground system next. I cannot start this now for several days
(grandchildren here with us) but hope to start on this next week.  My
theoretical calculations suggest the ground losses must be very high and the
effective height of my (very short) MF antenna very small. Improvements to
my ground system yesterday (a few short radials and a second ground spike)
did not make any different to the antenna current suggesting other
factors/losses may be masking these improvements.

So far I have had reports now from 18 different stations in 4 countries with
GM4SLV the best DX at 896kms (several times). I think John must have a very
quiet QTH up in the Shetland Isles.

Thanks again for listening and before long I hope you manage to hear me.

73s
Roger G3XBM
http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/



2009/10/26 Clemens Paul <cpaul@gmx.net>

>  Roger,
>
> Sri,no copy last evening.
> Only G4JNT (1055km) and G0NBD (1245km) .
> I didn't see even a faint trace on my Perseus SDR.
> From my experience I know that I can decode WSPR sigs
> even if they are very weakly visible on Perseus
> but what I can't see I can't decode.
> I believe at least ~10dB more are necessary to reach central Europe.
>
> 73
> Clemens
> DL4RAJ
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>
> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 25, 2009 7:34 PM
> *Subject:* Re: LF: 500kHz G4NT WSPR beaconing
>
> Let us hope you manage to hear my signal too later in the evening Clemens.
>
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM
>
> 2009/10/25 Clemens Paul <cpaul@gmx.net>
>
>>    2009-10-25 18:00   G4JNT   0.503850   +12   0   IO90iv   0.2   DL4RAJ
>>  JN68kj   1055   100
>>
>> This evening looks promising.
>>
>> 73
>> Clemens
>> DL4RAJ
>>
>
>
>
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Thanks Clemens. <br><br>Yes, I think you are right and I need to significa=
ntly reduce the losses in my antenna and ground system next. I cannot star=
t this now for several days (grandchildren here with us) but hope to start=
 on this next week.=A0 My theoretical calculations suggest the ground loss=
es must be very high and the effective height of my (very short) MF antenn=
a very small. Improvements to my ground system yesterday (a few short radi=
als and a second ground spike) did not make any different to the antenna=
 current suggesting other factors/losses may be masking these improvements=
.<br>
<br>So far I have had reports now from 18 different stations in 4 countrie=
s with GM4SLV the best DX at 896kms (several times). I think John must hav=
e a very quiet QTH up in the Shetland Isles.<br><br>Thanks again for liste=
ning and before long I hope you manage to hear me.<br>
<br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br><a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/">http:=
//g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">20=
09/10/26 Clemens Paul <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cpaul@gmx.ne=
t">cpaul@gmx.net</a>&gt;</span><br>
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<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Roger,</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Sri,no copy last evening.</font></div=
>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Only G4JNT (1055km) and G0NBD (1245km=
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<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">I didn&#39;t see even a faint trace=
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SDR.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">From my experience I know that I can=
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sigs </font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">even if they are=A0very weakly=A0visi=
ble on=20
Perseus</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">but=A0what I can&#39;t see I can&#39;=
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decode.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">I believe at least ~10dB=A0more are=
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<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">73<br>Clemens<br>DL4RAJ</font></div>
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  <div style=3D"background: rgb(228, 228, 228) none repeat scroll 0% 0%;=
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<b>From:</b>=20
  <a title=3D"rogerlapthorn@gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:rogerlapthorn@gmail.=
com" target=3D"_blank">Roger=20
  Lapthorn</a> </div>
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djust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"rsgb_lf_group@b=
lacksheep.org" href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_bla=
nk">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>=20
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rmal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-hei=
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 Sunday, October 25, 2009 7:34=20
  PM</div>
  <div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: norm=
al; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-a=
djust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: LF: 500kHz G4NT WS=
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Tnx Andrey
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> Hi Mal,
> I have already switched on the grabber on your frequency.
> The grabber will work on 500 khz to ~21z....
>
> In the night from 1.30 till 2.45 observed someone's wspr-signals on 
> 503850.
> The signals was not decoded.
>
> 73 Andrey
>
>
>> Hi Andrey
>> Pse look at 502.57 starting at 1800 utc CW and QRS3
>> De mal/g3kev
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
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>> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 6:45 PM
>> Subject: LF: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz
>>
>>
>>> Hello LF'ers,
>>> QRV RCV today WSPR-beacons on 500 kHz (503850+/-) till the morning.
>>> Also QRSS3 above frequency 502.350. If someone is going to work in
>>> QRSS3-mode,
>>> please inform your frequency.
>>>
>>> 73 Andrey
>


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From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
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Hi LF,
Capture at 22.25z.
720-OE5ODL

73 Andrey

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Hi Henny
Thanks for capture Henny.
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Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI

Hi LF,
Capture SP2KDS
Henny pa3cpm
73s
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SP2KDS 11-10.jpg

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=20
Hello Andrey,some traces from my beacon on your grabber.
=20
I retry the tests the next night.
=20
Best Regards F4DTL: JN18FP: 25 km south of Paris.
=20
=20
Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 21/10/2009 23:12:18 Paris, Madrid (heure d'=E9t=
=E9), =20
rn3agc@mail.ru a =E9crit :

Nicolas,
Here now local QRM. But, I hope, later the aether  becomes purer.

73 Andrey



Yes andrey thanx, im beaconing  now on 137776 QRSS90 with 300W but the rai=
n
modified the values of the  antenna.

Regards Friend.
F4DTL Nicolas

Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du  21/10/2009 22:53:46 Paris, Madrid (heure d'=E9t=
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rn3agc@mail.ru a =E9crit  :

Nicolas,
If there is a possibility, too try. Propagation  good,  for
certain and your signal here will be  visible.

73  Andrey




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       WD2XGJ is beaconing on 137.7798 kHz in QRSS 60.

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On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Paul-Henrik <phl@netikka.fi> wrote:
> Hello Marcin!
>
> Full call copied from SP2KDS 1931UTC on 137.7kHz
>
> Good luck!
>
> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
> Vaasa / KP03SD
>
>
> Quoting Marcin <bxi@go2.pl>:
>
>> Hi LF!
>> Station SP2KDS will be work today,
>> Operation in QRSS will start from 19:00 UTC on 137.700kHz (QRRS3) and
>> 137,778kHz (QRSS60).
>> Vy 73!
>> Marcin SQ2BXI
>
>
>
>
>


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Hi Warren!
Next weekend I search your signal on 500m beverage in ligthouse Rozewie.
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Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI 

> Marcin,
> 
>        WD2XGJ is beaconing on 137.7798 kHz in QRSS 60.
> 
> -- 
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>                 WD2XGJ
>                 WD2XSH/23
>                 WE2XEB/2
>                 WE2XGR/1
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Paul-Henrik <phl@netikka.fi> wrote:
> > Hello Marcin!
> >
> > Full call copied from SP2KDS 1931UTC on 137.7kHz
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
> > Vaasa / KP03SD
> >
> >
> > Quoting Marcin <bxi@go2.pl>:
> >
> >> Hi LF!
> >> Station SP2KDS will be work today,
> >> Operation in QRSS will start from 19:00 UTC on 137.700kHz (QRRS3) and
> >> 137,778kHz (QRSS60).
> >> Vy 73!
> >> Marcin SQ2BXI
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 


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Hello Peter,

copying your signal vy clear in JN59LN

vy 73 de Gerhard  //  DK6NI

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-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Peter Dodd
Gesendet: Freitag, 30. Oktober 2009 00:43
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: 500kHz propagation

Over the last couple of weeks have heard a very weak CW signal at 508k=
Hz=20
beaconing BL. Tonight it was a bit stronger and I copied IBL.
I am now making a test QRSS transmission on 501.05kHz

Peter, G3LDO


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Hi Jim, I guess that could be frustrating to some who maybe do not
understand the limitations enough, but would seem to work ok within them.

The ideal method at 136 as you say was to use Loran sidebands of known
frequency. A better method would be to generate a 1Hz comb by injecting 1PPS
tickes from a GPS receiver into the antenna (very small cap) as with Peter
Martinex's "ClickLock" this can be done on the band you require to monitor.
For those not having a GPS 1PPS available the best solution my be to
generate one from MSF (or Droitwich), but this is not a
trival bit of hardware development, thought it is not too difficult I would
think...... 1 sec "ticks" are provided by MSF. I suppose you may need to
lock to those to generate the missing tick at the minute, but that would not
really be a problem for comb generation. Maybe kickoff a retriggerable mono
set slightly long to clean up the pulses.

All you then require is a receiver that enables you to distinguish which 1Hz
you are using
:-))

For Droitwich....mmmm how about a limiting carrier amp, a divide by 99 in a
CD4040 (maybe a 74HCT4040) followed by several 74HCT390s down to 1 sec. It
would not satisfy the purists with 40 to 100nS of jitter but would be good
enough for WOLF.

..and not so much daunting math to use :-))

Cheers de Alan G3NYK
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> Dear LF Group,
>
> I have just uploaded "RX_Soundcard_cal_v1.pdf" to the files page at the
> UK500kHz group web site (go to
> http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/files - it is down at the bottom
of
> the list). This describes a way of calibrating receiver frequency and
sound
> card sampling rate using an off-air standard frequency such as MSF or
198kHz
> R4, without requiring an accurate audio frequency to calibrate the sound
> card. This is addressed primarily to WOLF mode transmission and reception,
> where this calibration has to be done fairly accurately in order for the
> mode to work properly, but could also be generally useful where sound card
> sample rate calibration has to be done, and there is no precision audio
> frequency source available in the shack.
>
> Any comments would be welcome,
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>



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Dear Steve, Alan, Klaus, LF Group,

Thanks for the comments. This calibration method is a bit fiddly in terms of 
doing the calculations, but I think it is simpler than W1TAG's Loran 
technique as far as making the frequency measurements goes. Also it gives 
you the receiver frequency error as well as the sound card sampling rate. I 
think the main difficulty with the Loran method is actually selecting and 
identifying  a suitable spectral line to measure the frequency of - 
especially in the UK where the received Loran signal is "dual rated" with 
interleaved spectral components from at least 2 different GRIs in the 
demodulated signal. A lot of promising looking peaks in the display are 
actually two peaks very close together.

As with the Loran technique, it has the advantage that, as far as hardware 
is concerned, it is "something for nothing", with no additional equipment 
required (something always appealing to amateurs ;-)). If you are prepared 
to make some simple calibration hardware, the calibration process is much 
more straightforward and potentially more accurate too. I have used a 10MHz 
xtal oscillator divided down to 1kHz (2 x 'HC390) to provide an audio 
calibration signal. The harmonics of the 1kHz signal can be compared with 
198kHz etc. using the RX and soundcard with spectrogram software - in this 
way, the calibrator frequency can easily be set to well within 1ppm. In my 
case, I used a salvaged TCXO module for the 10MHz, which is stable enough to 
provide in-band 1kHz marker pips for checking the receiver calibration too.

I don't know why the WOLF frequency calibration utility only works within 
+/- 1Hz. The trouble is, if the offset is outside that range, it gives you a 
sensible-looking value that is actually wrong. So it is important to check 
the audio frequency on the WOLF spectrum display to make sure it is within 
the right limits.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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This evening and overnight I shall be running my little 500kHz WSPR beacon
in its "original" state (ERP around 6uW) before I start mods to the TX and
the antenna, hopefully resulting in stronger signals. With 5 different
stations reporting me I am hopeful of a few more before getting stuck in.

Please take a listen and do let me know if you spot me.

Thanks everyone
73s
Roger G3XBM

-- 
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http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088

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This evening and overnight I shall be running my little 500kHz WSPR beacon=
 in its &quot;original&quot; state (ERP around 6uW) before I start mods to=
 the TX and the antenna, hopefully resulting in stronger signals. With 5=
 different stations reporting me I am hopeful of a few more before getting=
 stuck in.<br>
<br>Please take a listen and do let me know if you spot me.<br><br>Thanks=
 everyone<br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>--------------=
-----------------------------------------------<br><a href=3D"http://g3xbm=
-qrp.blogspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>G3XBM =A0=
 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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Hi Roman,
Thanks for the report

Peter, G3LDO
> Hi Peter!
>
> Looking 501.1 ? Right?
> http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html
>
> -- 
> Roman RW3ADB.
>
>
>



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Nice capture, thank you Henny!

-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1




2009/10/5 henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>:
> Hi Warren,LF
> Capture XGJ,
> Henny pa3cpm
> best 73s
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden
> verzonden:
> XGJ 05-10.jpg


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Hello Walter,


> DI2AG is now in WSPR. TX QRG 505.090, Dial 503.590. Pwr 0.5W ERP.
> Please listen to my beacon.
> =A0
> 73=A0=A0 Walter=A0=A0=A0 DI2AG / DJ2LF

First decode just now :-)

1940 -25  2.9   0.505087  0 DI2AG JN59 27

@Marco: good luck in copying Walter!


--=20
vy 73 + gd DX,

Michael


RX: ICOM R75, SDR-IQ, Perseus
Antenna: Wellbrook ALA 1530, Mini-Whip
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Hi Alan,

    Glad to hear that you are well, looking forward to the return of
the propagation report!

--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
               WD2XGJ
               WD2XSH/23
               WE2XEB/2
               WE2XGR/1

On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Alan Melia <alan.melia@btinternet.com> wro=
te:
> Hi Warren thanks for your concern....yes I am fine if somewhat overworke=
d at
> present, and I have also been running up a new computer so having to
> transfer all the apps....I promise I will get it up and running again
> soon....
>
> Thanks and Best Wishes
> Alan G3NYK
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
> To: "rsgb_lf_group" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 4:18 PM
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>
>
>> I have noted that Alan Melia has not updated his propagation =A0report
>> since the 7th of July!
>> Hope all is well with Alan!
>>
>>
>> --
>> 73 Warren K2ORS
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XGJ
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XSH/23
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hallo hanny!
 thanks fer  jpg
 73 de ossi
oe5odl

henny van elst schrieb:
> Hi LF,
> Capture OE5ODL?
> Henny pa3cpm
> 73s
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden 
> verzonden:
> OE5ODL 31-10.jpg
>
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Richard,

there are discussions about the "true value" of some WSJT modes as 
they seem to use (or at least to have access to) a call database.
But I though that WSPR does not use this database.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

At 21:02 25/10/2009, you wrote:
>Has anyone else noticed how wspr seems to "guess" at callsigns and
>locators? I have noticed that more dodgy decodes have the right format
>than I would have expected by chance.
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>73
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>Richard
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=A0
Hi LF
=A0
500kc/s CW came alive today at this location mid morning to around lunch=
 time.
=A0
Stations heard:- G3xiz =3D M0jxm =3D G3kev =3D Gw3uep =3D M0khw =3D =A0G7n=
ks.all fb.
=A0
Ei0cf active but not heard (deaf RX) here in io91ux North Herts.but was wo=
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73 petefmt
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<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal>Hi LF</DIV>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></DIV>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal>500kc/s CW came alive=
 today at this location mid morning to around lunch time.</DIV>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></DIV>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal>Stations heard:- G3xiz=
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Hi Niels!
looking 502.0 grabbers started ON.
PSE QRSS-3 if possible.
RN3AGC copy you 569
Inaudible into my location.


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Hi Jim,
Thanks for your report.

Not sure yet on a cause of PA fail, just 1 of the PA pair went down,
probably nothing to worry about but I am keeping a watchful eye on the
meters.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.


2009/10/11 James Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.net>

>  Hi Gary
>
>
>
> U r audible in IO92ub at abt S5 peaking to S7 (503.6) on my IC735 and
>  poor/average invtd L.   Looking on the traces on HRD/DM780 I can see your
> dashes and dots.  There is quite a bit of QRN here tonight
>
>
>
> With best regards
>
>
>
>
>
> *Jim*
>
>
>
>
>
> Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS
>
>
>   ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:
> owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] *On Behalf Of *Gary - G4WGT
> *Sent:* 11 October 2009 19:12
> *To:* Rsgb_Lf_Group
> *Subject:* LF: 503.6kHz Test
>
>
>
> Hi LF,
>
>
>
> I am testing my Class D Tx after a PA fail yesterday.
>
> Frequency 503.6kHz
>
> QRS03 at 5 minute intervals & CW ID.
>
> 1 watt ERP.
>
>
>
> 73
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.
>

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Hi Jim,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for your report.</div><div><br></div><di=
v>Not sure yet on a cause of PA fail, just 1 of the PA pair went down, pro=
bably nothing to worry about but I am keeping a watchful eye on the meters=
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<div><br></div><div>73</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.</di=
v><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/11 James Cowburn <span=
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n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Hi Gary</span></=
font></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">=A0</span></font=
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n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">U r audible in=
 IO92ub at abt S5 peaking to
S7 (503.6) on my IC735 and =A0poor/average invtd L. =A0=A0Looking on the=
 traces on
HRD/DM780 I can see your dashes and dots. =A0There is quite a bit of QRN=
 here
tonight</span></font></p>

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n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">=A0</span></font=
></p>

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n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">With best regard=
s</span></font><font color=3D"navy"><span style=3D"color:navy"></span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" color=3D"navy" face=3D"Times New=
 Roman"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:navy">=A0</span></font></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" color=3D"navy" face=3D"Times New=
 Roman"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:navy">=A0</span></font></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><strong><b><font size=3D"6" color=3D"navy" face=3D"=
Freestyle Script"><span style=3D"font-size:24.0pt;font-family:&quot;Freest=
yle Script&quot;;color:navy">Jim</span></font></b></strong><font color=3D"=
navy"><span style=3D"color:navy"></span></font></p>


<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" color=3D"navy" face=3D"Times New=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" color=3D"navy" face=3D"Times New=
 Roman"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:navy">=A0</span></font></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Dr. James Cowbur=
n G7NKS</span></font><font color=3D"navy"><span style=3D"color:navy"></spa=
n></font></p>


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t size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">

<hr size=3D"3" width=3D"100%" align=3D"center">

</span></font></div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Tahoma"><span style=3D"=
font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font><=
/b><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Tahoma"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-f=
amily:Tahoma">
<a href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank">ow=
ner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a> [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_=
lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank">owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.=
org</a>] <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Gary=
 - G4WGT<br>

<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> 11 October 2009 19:12=
<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Rsgb_Lf_Group<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> LF: 503.6kHz Test<=
/span></font></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:12.0pt">=A0</span></font></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:12.0pt">Hi LF,</span></font></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:12.0pt">=A0</span></font></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:12.0pt">I am testing my Class D Tx after a PA fail yesterd=
ay.</span></font></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:12.0pt">Frequency 503.6kHz</span></font></p>

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<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:12.0pt">QRS03 at 5 minute intervals &amp; CW ID.</span></f=
ont></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:12.0pt">1 watt ERP.</span></font></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:12.0pt">=A0</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:12.0pt">73</span></font></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:12.0pt">=A0</span></font></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:12.0pt">Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.</span></font></p>

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Hi Warren,lf
capture XGJ,
Henny pa3cpm
73s
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Hello LF'ers,
QRV RCV today WSPR-beacons on 500 kHz (503850+/-) till the morning.
Also QRSS3 above frequency 502.350. If someone is going to work in QRSS3-mode,
please inform your frequency.

73 Andrey


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Hi Paul-Henrik and Graham
=A0
Yes very depressing for us with the potentilal problems=A0from "new techno=
logy".=20
I have to do as Graham says find a quiet spot and exploit that if=A0I can=
 find one.
=A0
Well it looks like conditions are on the up for the winter season so may=
 be it will help get better signals from each other. If I make any great=
 breakthroughs with my noise issue rest assured =A0I will broadcast it.
=A0
In the meantime thanks for your interest and info.
=A0
BTW I intend to try some late night QRSS from a qrp 137kc/s TX when our po=
stal service starts to play the game again. I have a 137.77 xtal stuck=A0i=
n the post right now..
=A0
73 all petefmt

--- On Mon, 12/10/09, Paul-Henrik <phl@netikka.fi> wrote:


From: Paul-Henrik <phl@netikka.fi>
Subject: LF: ADSL noise Q for petefmt
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Monday, 12 October, 2009, 5:35 PM


Hello Pete, LF

> Well I can only conclude it is ADSL because it is
> just raising the noise floor it is=A0very subtle not really identifiable=
 like
> say TV LTB, it's a mush. Frame ants help a bit but not as sensitive at=
 the LW
> by a mile.

> 73 petefmt

I'm also plagued by a "not really identifiable" mush-like noisefloor. In=
 my case
it is not affecting RX on 500kHz badly, at least I seem to hear you guys=
 pretty
well and daytime the band sounds pretty fine. Here the problems start in=
 the
high end of the MW BC band and extends up to about 2600kHz with a constant
level. Above 2600kHz it slowly drops off and at 3000kHz it is more or less
gone.

The noise has no real characteristic, it is like a constant 24/7/365 white=
 noise
(S7 on IC-718 with inverted-L antenna) and I can not D/F it on any of my=
 loops.

I have even disconnected all incoming mains and phone lines to the house=
 just
above earth level and ran the radio from a battery but it is still there..=
.

I have tried to nail this pest many times but always failed so far. A clue=
 to
what kind of technology that could cause white noise in this spectrum woul=
d be
very helpful in the battle.

Thankful for any hints.


Then a word of warning as this may soon affect many of us:

On top of this the local electric company recently installed smart billing
meters in our area running LonTalk over 4800baud FSK PLC on 66.7kHz. The=
 2'nd
harmonic sidebands of this EU approved complete engineering failure piece=
 of
crap technology are now wiping out 136kHz completely daytime... With night=
time
QRN it just about "blends in" when using a 250Hz CW filter. The signal is=
 all
over in every cm of mains wiring indoors too. At least I know my enemy in=
 this
case but being approved technology used for every household means there is=
 very
little to do but live with it.

73

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ









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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D=
"top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV>Hi Paul-Henrik and Graham</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Yes very depressing for us with the potentilal problems&nbsp;from "ne=
w technology". </DIV>
<DIV>I have to do as Graham says find a quiet spot and exploit that if&nbs=
p;I can find one.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Well it looks like conditions are on the up for the winter season so=
 may be it will help get better signals from each other. If I make any gre=
at breakthroughs with my noise issue rest assured &nbsp;I will broadcast=
 it.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>In the meantime thanks for your interest and info.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>BTW I intend to try some late night QRSS from a qrp 137kc/s TX when=
 our postal service starts to play the game again. I have a 137.77 xtal st=
uck&nbsp;in the post right now..</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73 all petefmt<BR><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 12/10/09, Paul-Henrik <I>&lt;phl=
@netikka.fi&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT:=
 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Paul-Henrik &lt;phl@netikka.fi&gt;<BR>Su=
bject: LF: ADSL noise Q for petefmt<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR=
>Date: Monday, 12 October, 2009, 5:35 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=3DplainMail>Hello Pete, LF<BR><BR>&gt; Well I can only conclude=
 it is ADSL because it is<BR>&gt; just raising the noise floor it is&nbsp;=
very subtle not really identifiable like<BR>&gt; say TV LTB, it's a mush.=
 Frame ants help a bit but not as sensitive at the LW<BR>&gt; by a mile.<B=
R><BR>&gt; 73 petefmt<BR><BR>I'm also plagued by a "not really identifiabl=
e" mush-like noisefloor. In my case<BR>it is not affecting RX on 500kHz ba=
dly, at least I seem to hear you guys pretty<BR>well and daytime the band=
 sounds pretty fine. Here the problems start in the<BR>high end of the MW=
 BC band and extends up to about 2600kHz with a constant<BR>level. Above=
 2600kHz it slowly drops off and at 3000kHz it is more or less<BR>gone.<BR=
><BR>The noise has no real characteristic, it is like a constant 24/7/365=
 white noise<BR>(S7 on IC-718 with inverted-L antenna) and I can not D/F=
 it on any of my loops.<BR><BR>I have even disconnected all incoming mains=
 and phone lines
 to the house just<BR>above earth level and ran the radio from a battery=
 but it is still there...<BR><BR>I have tried to nail this pest many times=
 but always failed so far. A clue to<BR>what kind of technology that could=
 cause white noise in this spectrum would be<BR>very helpful in the battle=
.<BR><BR>Thankful for any hints.<BR><BR><BR>Then a word of warning as this=
 may soon affect many of us:<BR><BR>On top of this the local electric comp=
any recently installed smart billing<BR>meters in our area running LonTalk=
 over 4800baud FSK PLC on 66.7kHz. The 2'nd<BR>harmonic sidebands of this=
 EU approved complete engineering failure piece of<BR>crap technology are=
 now wiping out 136kHz completely daytime... With nighttime<BR>QRN it just=
 about "blends in" when using a 250Hz CW filter. The signal is all<BR>over=
 in every cm of mains wiring indoors too. At least I know my enemy in this=
<BR>case but being approved technology used for every household means ther=
e is
 very<BR>little to do but live with it.<BR><BR>73<BR><BR>Paul-Henrik / OH1=
LSQ<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></td></tr></table><br>



     =20

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Hi LF Group
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OZ8NJ CQ solid copy on 502kc/s in IO91UX S4/5 (Noise at S2) to a deaf RX=
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Roger Lapthorn wrote:
>  2009-10-17 16:04  G3XBM  0.503920  -25  0  JO02dg  0.001  G0KTN  IO81ti
>  210  242
> 210kms - brilliant!!! Thanks G0KTN.
> 


Roger,

New heights now!

G3XBM 0.503937 -26 0 JO02dg 0.001 OR7T JO20ix 337

Well done,

Nothing seen here yet, but fingers crossed

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Hello Andrey,
the antenne is a sloper,only 14 meter,and the power 200watt,so tnx for the 
grabber again,and all the best.
henny pa3cpm
best 73s.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
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> Hi Henny, LF!
> Henny, in the morning I have been pleasantly surprised, having seen your 
> signal.
> Last night received also F8BOJ and UA9CS.
> The next night the grabber too will work. Further till Monday it is OFF.
> Tomorrow I leave in KO86NP. The receiver there will be included every
> evening from 21.00. I hope, the air there will be purer, than in Moscow.
> I will inform results SWL when I will return, on Sunday or Monday.
> Excuse me for bad English:)
>
> 73 Andrey
>
>
>> Hi Andrey,LF,
>> TNX for the grabber,
>> antenne sloper,200 watt 2150km
>> Henny pa3cpm
>> best 73s
>
>
>


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Hi Toni,


> 18:40 UTC now calling CQ on 137.710 in QRS3, 73 de Toni

Good copy of your signal in JN49bf - cf. screenshot.


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vy 73 + gd DX,

Michael


RX: ICOM R75, SDR-IQ, Perseus
Antenna: Wellbrook ALA 1530, Mini-Whip
Location: Roschbach, Germany N 49=B015' E 8=B007' / Locator JN49BF

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Hi LF,
Capture OE5ODL?
Henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
OE5ODL 31-10.jpg

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi LF,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Capture OE5ODL?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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I use home build on both 137 and 500
On 137 4 fets in push pull class D and on 500 1 fet in class E. Use a=
 LPF for each. I never had a problem with crud !!!!
Reliability is good especially class E when set up properly. Use a sta=
ble antenna with components adequate for the power, otherwise expect=
 PA smoke.
mal/g3kev

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Chris=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 3:11 PM
  Subject: LF: Re: Re: AF Amps at 136


  Thanks for your comments Mal, I did wonder if such an approach was=
 wise. Let's see what others have to say on the matter. I also have my=
 suspicions about FETs in class D and the level of crud that could res=
ult.
  Thanks again.
  Chris, G4AYT.
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: mal hamilton=20
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
    Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 2:49 PM
    Subject: LF: Re: AF Amps at 136


    Chris=20
    Do  not use audio amps for RF. Build a class D or E amp and operat=
e trouble free. Audio amps were tried by some in the early days but ne=
ver worked properly.=20
    Read the horror stories of yesteryears about using audio amps for=
 RF applications. Buckets of burnt out FETS.
    73 De Mal/g3kev

      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Chris=20
      To: RSGB LF Group=20
      Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 2:13 PM
      Subject: LF: AF Amps at 136


      Hi All,
      Just started constructing TX for 136kHz, noticed Maplin do a Vel=
leman audio PA kit that is rated at 200W (100W RMS into 4R). OK there'=
s no mains transformer or heat sink, but reckon it's good value at =A3=
14.99. Point is the specs also say the minus 3db frequency response is=
 3Hz / 200kHz.
      The RSGB books 'LF Today' refer to using audio amps as PAs at 13=
6 with 'a few modifications'. Does anybody know where these modificati=
ons are documented? I guess there's nothing major, reduce a few cap va=
lues? Remove Zobel Network etc.?? If anyone has experience with this=
 approach I would appreciate some hints. Thanks.
      Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable.


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I use home build on both 137 and 500<=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>On 137 4 fets in push pull class D an=
d on 500 1 fet=20
in class E. Use a LPF for each. I never had a problem with crud=20
!!!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Reliability is good especially class=
 E when set up=20
properly. Use a stable antenna with components adequate for the power,=
 otherwise=20
expect PA smoke.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@=
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f_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 18, 200=
9 3:11=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: Re: AF Amps=
 at 136</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for your comments Mal, I did=
 wonder if=20
  such an approach was wise. Let's see what others have to say on the=
 matter. I=20
  also have my suspicions about FETs in class D and the level of crud=
 that=20
  could&nbsp;result.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks again.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chris, G4AYT.</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A       title=3Drsgb_l=
f_group@blacksheep.org       href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o=
rg">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 18,=
 2009 2:49=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: AF Amps at=
 136</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chris </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Do&nbsp; not use audio amps for=
 RF. Build a=20
    class D or E amp and operate trouble free. Audio amps were tried=
 by some in=20
    the early days but never worked properly. </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Read the horror stories of yester=
years about=20
    using audio amps for RF applications. Buckets of burnt out=20
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 De Mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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      <A title=3Dc.ashby435@btinternet.com         href=3D"mailto:c.as=
hby435@btinternet.com">Chris</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A         title=3Drs=
gb_lf_group@blacksheep.org         href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org">RSGB LF Group</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 18,=
 2009 2:13=20
      PM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: AF Amps at=
 136</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi All,</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just started constructing TX fo=
r 136kHz,=20
      noticed Maplin do a Velleman audio PA kit that is rated at 200W=
 (100W RMS=20
      into 4R). OK there's no mains transformer or heat sink, but reck=
on it's=20
      good value at =A314.99. Point is the specs also say the minus=20
      3db&nbsp;frequency response is 3Hz&nbsp;/ 200kHz.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The RSGB books 'LF Today' refer=
 to using=20
      audio amps as PAs at 136 with 'a few modifications'. Does anybod=
y know=20
      where these modifications are documented? I guess there's nothin=
g major,=20
      reduce a few cap values? Remove Zobel Network etc.?? If anyone=
 has=20
      experience with this approach I would appreciate some hints.=20
      Thanks.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable.</FONT=
></DIV>
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Tnx Vern nw qso sq7mpj. pse call now de mal/g3kev

----- Original Message ----- 
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> mal hamilton wrote:
>
>> Vern
>> Nw active QRS3 and CW on 502.57 if that is any help.
>> VE1JG has often hrd me in the past.
>> 73 de mal/g3kev
>
> Dear Mal,
> i am calling you on 7033kc  and qsx on 502.57kc in qrss3
>
>  73 de Piotr, sq7mpj
> qth: Lodz /jo91rs/
>


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Thank you Henny for the capture!

-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
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2009/10/11 henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>:
> Hi Warren and ALL,
> Capture XGJ
> Henny pa3cpm
> best 73s
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden
> verzonden:
> XGJ 11-10.jpg


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On 5 Oct 2009 at 21:09, James Cowburn wrote:

> OZ8NJ Niels in QSO with G3XPU  Clive at my loc io92ub between 20.30 BST
> and 21.00 BST both 577

577????? They were both 579, beautiful tone, here in IO91PJ Bracknell.

Dave

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Hello Niels, thanks for your reply!

Well actually I am very interested in 500 kHz, it is a new band with
surprising effects.

I am often monitoring WSPR signals and yesterday I decoded OR7T with=
 50 mW
ERP!

It is a pity that this band is not permitted in Germany with the excep=
tion
of beacon-station, and they have to pay for that=85it is crazy. Well=
 let us
hope that we in DL can also enjoy this interesting band in the next co=
uple
of years.

=20

Thanks again, gd dx on 500 kHz and best 73=20

=20

de Gerhard  //  DK6NI

=20

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20

=20

=20

=20

  _____ =20

Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von niels rudbe=
rg
j=F8rgensen
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 22. Oktober 2009 12:22
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: Re: AW: MF ACTY / Reports from DK6NI

=20

Hello Gerhard/DK6NI!

I wonder whether I forgot to acknowledge your report

on signals of Oct. 6th. If so, I apologize!

So thank you very much. I do hope to meet=20

you on 500 kHz some time in the future.

73

Niels/OZ8NJ+

=20

----- Original Message -----=20

From: Beckmann, <mailto:beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de>  Gerhard=20

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20

Cc: 'mal <mailto:g3kevmal@talktalk.net>  hamilton' ; niels@oz8nj.dk ;
'Finbar' <mailto:beachwood@eircom.net> =20

Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 10:22 PM

Subject: LF: AW: MF ACTY / Reports from DK6NI

=20

Hello Finbar, Niels, Mal, Hallo LF / MF;

=20

Received following calls on MF (501.7 kHz) in CW-Mode:

=20

ON8NJ,            Niels:               5 5 9;

EI0CF,              Finbar:              3 3 9; but 100% readable!

G3KEV             Mal:                 4 4 9

=20

vy 73 de Gerhard  //  DK6NI  (JN59LN)

=20

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llo Niels, thanks for
your reply!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We=
ll actually I am very
interested in 500 kHz, it is a new band with surprising effects.<o:p><=
/o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I=
 am often monitoring
WSPR signals and yesterday I decoded OR7T with 50 mW ERP!<o:p></o:p></=
span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-right:95.7pt'><font size=3D2 colo=
r=3Dnavy  face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:Arial;  color:navy'>It is a pity that this band is not permi=
tted in <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:country-region   w:st=3D"on">Germa=
ny</st1:country-region></st1:place> with the exception of
beacon-station, and they have to pay for that&#8230;it is crazy. Well=
 let us
hope that we in DL can also enjoy this interesting band in the next co=
uple of
years.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-right:95.7pt'><font size=3D2 colo=
r=3Dnavy  face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;fo=
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r=3Dnavy  face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:Arial;  color:navy'>Thanks again, gd dx on 500 kHz and best=
 73 <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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B  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Von:=
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le=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:Pe=
rsonName>
[mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
</st1:PersonName>]
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Im Auftrag von </span></b>niels ru=
dbe</span></font><font  size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>rg j=F8rgensen<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Donnerstag,=
 22. Oktober
2009 12:22<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:s=
t=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> LF: Re: AW: MF=
 ACTY /
Reports from DK6NI</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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ize:10.0pt;  font-family:Arial'>Hello Gerhard/DK6NI!</span></font><o:p=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt;  font-family:Arial'>I wonder whether I forgot to acknowled=
ge your report</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt;  font-family:Arial'>on signals of Oct. 6th. If so, I apolo=
gize!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt;  font-family:Arial'>So thank you very much. I do hope to=
 meet </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt;  font-family:Arial'>you on 500 kHz some time in the future=
.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt;  font-family:Arial'>73</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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ize:10.0pt;  font-family:Arial'>Niels/OZ8NJ+</span></font><o:p></o:p><=
/p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt;  font-family:Arial'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:=
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ce=3DArial><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-wei=
ght:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font  size=3D2 face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a  href=3D"mailto:beckman=
n.erlangen@freenet.de" title=3D"beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de">Beckmann=
,
Gerhard</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:10.0pt;  font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font><=
/b><font size=3D2  face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-f=
amily:Arial'> <a  href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" title=
=3D"rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:10.0pt;  font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></font><=
/b><font size=3D2  face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-f=
amily:Arial'> <a  href=3D"mailto:g3kevmal@talktalk.net" title=3D"g3kev=
mal@talktalk.net">'mal
hamilton'</a> ; <a href=3D"mailto:niels@oz8nj.dk" title=3D"niels@oz8nj=
.dk">niels@oz8nj.dk</a>
; <a href=3D"mailto:beachwood@eircom.net" title=3D"beachwood@eircom.ne=
t">'Finbar'</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:10.0pt;  font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font=
></b><font size=3D2  face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:Arial'> Tuesday, October
06, 2009 10:22 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:10.0pt;  font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></f=
ont></b><font size=3D2  face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:Arial'> LF: AW: MF ACTY /
Reports from DK6NI<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size:  12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hello Finbar,=
 Niels, Mal, <st1:PersonName  w:st=3D"on">Hallo</st1:PersonName> LF /=
 MF;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
:p></span></font></p>

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ng=3DEN-GB  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Re=
ceived following calls
on MF (501.7 kHz) in CW-Mode:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o=
:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>ON8NJ,&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Niels:&nbsp;
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p; 5 5 9;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>EI0CF,
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p;
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Richard Newstead wrote:
> 
> Just downloaded wspr. I have the dial set at 502.4 but nothing is 
> decoding. Time is set accurately. Any ideas?
> 

Richard, LF,

First steps:

Under "Setup" -> "Options" ensure you've changed the callsign to your 
own (many new users appear in the database as K1JT!) and put in the 
correct Locator.

If you have multiple soundcards you might need to observe the DOS box 
that starts with the prog and make sure the correct one is selected. If 
necessary you can make the selection, by choosing from the noted 
soundcard input/output reference numbers from the DOS box, under "Setup" 
-> "Options".

If you're going to upload spots or want a proper record of the observed 
frequencies, then for MF/LF you need to select "Band" -> "Other" and 
enter 0.5024 in the Dial Freq box.

WSPR works on 2-minute timeslots, with stations transmitting on a random 
basis. Some slots will have no signals at all...

Maks sure you've clicked in the "RX" radio button and that on the next 
even minute edge that there is a green "Receiving" indicator at the 
lower right corner.

Once it's receiveing you can adjust the audio level to get the lower 
left corner "RX Noise" to be close to "0dB" for best decoding performance.

The waterfall updates at the end of each transmit period (at 1'54) then 
there's 6 seconds if "Idle" before the next cycle starts at the next 
even minute edge.

Timing is important - both the absoute PC clock time and the soundcard 
sampling rate. Any significant errors here will reduce the decoding ability.

Once everything is configured right then tick the "Upload Spots" box to 
let us all see what you're receiving.


Hope this is enough to get some decodes. JNT, WGT and BHZ should be 
copyable from Macclesfield, I'd guess. Gus is generally strong everywhere!

Cheers,

John
GM4SLV
Shetland


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Hi Jim, LF,
Thank you for the plot & your observations. I have downloaded the plot to
study later.

I had not realised until after the PA FET failure on Saturday night that the
LPF toroids were very hot & need to be upgraded if I am going to run that
level of power again (5 watts ERP about 4 Amps antenna current). I must also
check the matching transformer toroids at the base of the antenna if that is
getting hot also, I may look into the alternative matching (tapped coil)
which you provided documentation & a spreadsheet for a while ago.

Keep up the good work, I am sure that we all appreciate your input, time &
efforts devoted to the hobby.

Cheers,

Gary - G4WGT.





2009/10/11 James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>

> Dear Gary, LF Group,
>
> This is what the signal looks like for about 11/2 hours up to 2200utc. The
> red signal is G4WGT, the yellow one is G4JNT's WSPR beacon. The blue line is
> the noise level scaled to about 300Hz bandwidth, to give an idea of the
> audible strength as a CW signal. The plot settings are not ideal to show
> variations in signal level - there are actually short periods where the
> signal fades to inaudibility that don't show up here, but it gives a
> reasonable idea.
>
> G4WGT I think must be mainly sky wave here so presumably the fading is due
> to  different sky-wave paths.  G4JNT is a very stable ground wave signal
> here during the day, so I imagine the fading here is due to the combination
> of ground wave and sky wave.
>
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>

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Hi Jim, LF,<div><br></div><div>Thank you for the plot &amp; your observati=
ons. I have downloaded the plot to study later.</div><div><br></div><div>I=
 had not realised until after the PA FET failure on Saturday night that th=
e LPF toroids were very hot &amp; need to be upgraded if I am going to run=
 that level of power again (5 watts ERP about 4 Amps antenna current). I=
 must also check the matching transformer toroids at the base of the anten=
na if that is getting hot also, I may look into the alternative matching=
 (tapped coil) which you provided documentation &amp; a spreadsheet for a=
 while ago.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Keep up the good work, I am sure that we all appreciat=
e your input, time &amp; efforts devoted to the hobby.</div><div><br></div=
><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT.</div><div><br></div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009=
/10/11 James Moritz <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:james.moritz@b=
topenworld.com">james.moritz@btopenworld.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote=
 class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc sol=
id;padding-left:1ex;">
Dear Gary, LF Group,<br>
<br>
This is what the signal looks like for about 11/2 hours up to 2200utc. The=
 red signal is G4WGT, the yellow one is G4JNT&#39;s WSPR beacon. The blue=
 line is the noise level scaled to about 300Hz bandwidth, to give an idea=
 of the audible strength as a CW signal. The plot settings are not ideal=
 to show variations in signal level - there are actually short periods whe=
re the signal fades to inaudibility that don&#39;t show up here, but it gi=
ves a reasonable idea.<br>

<br>
G4WGT I think must be mainly sky wave here so presumably the fading is due=
 to =A0different sky-wave paths. =A0G4JNT is a very stable ground wave sig=
nal here during the day, so I imagine the fading here is due to the combin=
ation of ground wave and sky wave.<div>
<div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
Cheers, Jim Moritz<br>
73 de M0BMU <br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>

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Hello Toni many thanx for yur call but i have difficults to receive you  
this evening,strong QRM by a broadcast station,i dont know why,maybe the  
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I hope a better contact with you a next time.
 
See you later Toni.
 
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just decoded OR7T at 2210 on .503867


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Subject: LF: Re: Re: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz
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Mal,
If here there was no this svc-station, your qrss3-signal would be visible also in the afternoon :)
For certain.

73 Andrey

> 
> Andrey
> I can not see any problem my signal is vy clear and strong on ur GRABBER 
> tonite
> tnx de mal/g3kev
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
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> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 7:56 PM
> Subject: LF: Re: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz
> 
> 
>> Mal,
>> Your signal here is almost in the centre of a spectrum of powerful 
>> broadband SVC-station.
>> It is a pity that you do not have possibility to replace frequency...
>>
>> 73 Andrey
>>
>>
>>> Andrey can see my sig solid copy on ur GRABBER
>>> TNX MAL
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:36 PM
>>> Subject: LF: Re: Re: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Mal,
>>>> I have already switched on the grabber on your frequency.
>>>> The grabber will work on 500 khz to ~21z....
>>>>
>>>> In the night from 1.30 till 2.45 observed someone's wspr-signals on
>>>> 503850.
>>>> The signals was not decoded.
>>>>
>>>> 73 Andrey
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Andrey
>>>>> Pse look at 502.57 starting at 1800 utc CW and QRS3
>>>>> De mal/g3kev
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
>>>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 6:45 PM
>>>>> Subject: LF: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello LF'ers,
>>>>>> QRV RCV today WSPR-beacons on 500 kHz (503850+/-) till the morning.
>>>>>> Also QRSS3 above frequency 502.350. If someone is going to work in
>>>>>> QRSS3-mode,
>>>>>> please inform your frequency.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73 Andrey



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Hello LF,
OZ8NJ RST 569

73 Andrey


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So far nil sigs 137.7
RN3AGC GRABBER not on
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Hi John

And I am Dr. QRPp!!  You've tagged me 3 times so far.  My earth improvements
are working!! 

Cheers

With best regards
 
 
Jim
 
 
Dr. James Cowburn
as well as its attachments and delete the whole from any computer."

 
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Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz QRPp WSPRing tonight



Roger Lapthorn wrote:
> This evening and overnight I shall be running my little 500kHz WSPR beacon
> in its "original" state (ERP around 6uW) before I start mods to the TX and
> the antenna, hopefully resulting in stronger signals.

I'm game for a try, looking now and will leave it running overnight. 
Already got G7NKS!

Good luck,

John
GM4SLV



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----- Original Message ----- 
From: henny van elst 
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:11 PM
Subject: Re: PA3CPM QRSS60


tu Nicolas,

73s henny cpm
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: F4DTL@aol.com 
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  Subject: LF: PA3CPM QRSS60


  Hello Henny captured last evening.
  The stong signal it's F8BOJ.

  73 de F4DTL Nicolas


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<DIV>73s henny cpm</DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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  <A title=F4DTL@aol.com href="mailto:F4DTL@aol.com">F4DTL@aol.com</A> </DIV>
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  <DIV>Hello Henny captured last evening.</DIV>
  <DIV>The stong signal it's F8BOJ.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT lang=1 face="Arial Black" color=#0000ff size=5 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"     PTSIZE="18"><B><I><FONT size=2>73 de F4DTL 
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Please advise of any errors.

73,
F5VLF/G3PAI
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CountrykHzE(I)RP
USA505-514Up to 1200W*
UK501-5041W
Germany440, 505-505.29W
Belgium501-5045W
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Jim,

maybe a method 3:
Measure the field strength of a strong TX (eg. DCF39 for 137kHz). 
This can be done using a small calibrated RX as describe by PA0SE.
Based on the you can calculate the antenna voltage that a lossless 
isotropic antenna should deliver to its termination resistance. Let's 
call this U1.
Match the antenna properly to the frequency of teh strong TX and 
terminate it properly.
Now measure the antenna voltage delivered by the strong TX. Let's call this U2.
Based on the ratio of U1/U2 the "efficiency "(in dBi) of the antenna 
system can be calculated, and thus for a given output power you know 
the E(I)RP.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


At 21:57 7/10/2009, you wrote:
>Dear David, LF Group,
>
>There are basically two ways of determining ERP, briefly:
>
>Method 1 is to calculate the radiation resistance (Rrad) of your antenna,
>which can be done using various text-book formulae, or using antenna
>simulation software like EZNEC or similar. Then you measure the RF current
>flowing in the antenna (Iant). The ERP is then Iant^2 x Rrad x 1.8 (1.8 is
>the directivity of electrically small vertical or loop antennas, which in
>practice is what all amateur 136kHz antennas are).
>
>Method 2 is to measure the field strength some km from the antenna. The ERP
>is then (E x d)^2 /49, where E is the field strength, d distance in metres.
>This requires a calibrated antenna and measuring receiver, so is more
>complicated to do.
>
>Method 1 is simpler to do, but yields ERP results that tend to be lower than
>those obtained by method 2. This is thought to be due to various combined
>environmental effects on the antenna, which are not accounted for in the
>simple calculation. So to get a more accurate and definitive figure, you
>need to do method 2, but as far as compliance with licence conditions is
>concerned, method 1 is a conservative way of checking.
>
>Good luck in your efforts!
>
>Cheers, Jim Moritz
>73 de M0BMU
>
>----- Original Message -----
>but From: "David Weinreich" <David.Weinreich@globalstar.com>
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>Peter,
>
>As an interested observer from the other side of the pond, how do you
>determine that you are close to the ERP limit?? I'd be interested in knowing
>as I am trying to do some pro-bono work for the ARRL on getting use of 137
>kHz here in the USA.
>
>Tnx & 73,
>
>David Weinreich
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hallo claude thanks fer nice qso es bic here .
your signal was also strong .between as there are the swiz and austrian 
moutains,
i think its not so easy like to transmit over the saltwater ?
so tonight i try to reach  birmingham and moskau 73 de ossi

Claude Berthebaud schrieb:
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hallo claude thanks fer nice qso es bic here .<br>
your signal was also strong .between as there are the swiz and austrian
moutains, <br>
i think its not so easy like to transmit over the saltwater ?<br>
so tonight i try to reach&nbsp; birmingham and moskau 73 de ossi<br>
<br>
Claude Berthebaud schrieb:
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Thanks for the great capture Andrey,

best 73s
Henny pa3cpm.
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> Hello Henny, Nicolas, LF,
> Capture last night at 0.10z. The best copy.
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> 73 Andrey
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>> Tu Nicolas,
>> best 73s
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Dear Members of the Group,


since years I use a very simple method of measuring 
the output sample rate of the soundcard:

(1) Choose an LF frequency normal such as HBG, 
    MSF or DCF77

(2) Generate a sinewave on the soundcard output 
    with a harmonic very near to the frequency 
    normal. Use maximum volme.
    Example: For DCF77 on 77500 Hz generate 
    (77500 +- 1.5)/19 = 4078.868 or 4079.026 Hz 
    to get a signal 1.5 Hz apart from the normal 
    (if the samplerate has the nominal value).

(3) Use a diode or transistor to distort the sound 
    output and couple it appropriately to your LF 
    antenna such that the harmonic has similar 
    amplitude as the frequency normal in your 
    receiver.

(4) Change output frequency such that the frequency 
    normal lies symmetrically between both harmonics 
    (i.e. use both frequencies of the example in 
    sequence).

(5) Sample the SSB receiver output, compute the 
    spectrum, and identify the peaks. Usually the 
    generated peaks are far from what one expects. 
    So the audio frequencies have to be improved 
    iteratively. 

The accuracy only is limited by the time interval 
used for the measurements. With intervals of 10 
minutes the accuracy is about 0.001 Hz. That is 
enough to measure the drift of the samplerates.
 
I have some JPGs with measured spectra which will 
be sent on request.


73 de Klaus, DJ5HG
 



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what about these:

  2009-10-29 20:20   DI2AG   0.503899   -25   0   JN59no   0.5   K1JT   
  FN20   6469   297
  2009-10-29 19:58   DI2AG   0.503899   -26   0   JN59no   0.5   K1JT   
  FN20   6469   297

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>:

> John P-G wrote:
>> Walter
>>
>> I've just started monitoring WSPR at 19:54UTC on 503.590 dial from Shetland
>>
>> I hope to see your sigs soon. Spots are being uploaded to wspr.net
>
>
> 1954 -23  2.5   0.505089  0 DI2AG JN59 27
> 1956 -28  2.6   0.505089  0 DI2AG JN59 27
> 1958 -27  2.7   0.505089 -1 DI2AG JN59 27
> 2006 -21  2.7   0.505089  0 DI2AG JN59 27
>
> Nice to see your signals so soon Walter.
>
> WSPR.NET shows the distance as 1428km
>
>
> Regards,
>
> John
> GM4SLV
> IP90gg
> Shetland
>
>
>
>




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Does anyone recognize this by frequency ? There is evidence of
a character before it, but too weak to make out. Popped up out
of nowhere, and disappeared just as quick. 2 hours before sunset.

73 :

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 185.29893 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
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Hi Pete.
Having a weak DSL signal, how does your 500kHz TX output affect the DS=
L synchronisation?. I am in a similar position, and my 500kHz TX 100mW=
 ERP cw causes complete loss of synchronisation dispite copious use of=
 common mode filters.

73.
Ken
M0KHW
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: M0FMT=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 1:36 PM
  Subject: RE: LF: MOFMT ADSL noise


        Hi LF group

        Thank you Jim and Laurence for you interest and information.

        Lifting this from Wikipedia ....... "With standard ADSL (annex=
 A), the band from 25.875 kHz to 138 kHz is used for upstream communic=
ation, while 138 kHz =E2=80=93 1104 kHz is used for downstream communi=
cation" .......=20
        Jim is right about 136 and I find the band unaffected it is in=
 a dead spot in the ADSL spectrum, assuming its clean of course.
        I have considered filters that are advertised but since we hav=
e a weak ADSL signal here, easily knocked out by Amateur TX on virtual=
ly any band I felt that a filter would make things worse in that respe=
ct. The reasoning being that a filter notch sitting right in the middl=
e of the down stream channel would adversely affect the down load time=
s which are only a tad better than dial up here. I may make something=
 and try it, thanks for putting that idea into the mix.

        It doesn't help that my antenna runs above the BT line (at rig=
ht angles) to my neighbours place but having said that trials at the=
 furthest distance from the line using a frame ant and battery run RX=
 things were no better. However I did not earth the LW that I will try=
 next time.

        Thanks to all for the inputs I have filed them for reference.

        73 petefmt

        --- On Wed, 14/10/09, Laurence BY3A-KL1X China <hellozerohello=
zero@hotmail.com> wrote:


          From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.c=
om>
          Subject: RE: LF: MOFMT ADSL noise
          To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
          Date: Wednesday, 14 October, 2009, 3:39 AM


          I had the same problem on 500 up in KL7 at home. I ended up=
 moving the modem to the garage where the telephone line comes out of=
 the ground and keeping the ADSL loaded wiring as short as possible -=
  then on the telephone side of the router  I connected up a pair of=
 reasonable quality of seried ADSL filters outbound for normal telepho=
ne wiring in the house. From 20 over noise I cant "see it" now as the=
 big antennae has been chocked off. I only use wireless around the pro=
perty so it wasnt an issue.
          =20
          Next job is to choke off the noise from the AC power line co=
ming out of the ground - its awful.
          =20
          relates to MTA Palmer Alaska solutions ADSL

          =20
          Laurence KL 1 X
          =20
          > From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com
          > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
          > Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:10:53 +0100
          > Subject: Re: LF: MOFMT ADSL noise
          >=20
          > Dear Pete, Paul-Henrik,
          >=20
          > M0FMT wrote:
          > ....> Well I can only conclude it is ADSL because it is ju=
st raising the=20
          > noise floor it is very subtle not really identifiable like=
 say TV LTB, it's=20
          > a mush...>
          >=20
          > I have problems with ADSL on 500kHz at my QTH - it sounds=
 like "white noise"=20
          > with no audible distinctive features I can detect. The noi=
se can be about=20
          > 10 - 20dB over the band noise here over a fairly wide band=
width in the MF=20
          > range. It does not seem to be a problem at 136k, perhaps=
 because this is in=20
          > the guard band between upstream and downstream ADSL signal=
s. It is easy to=20
          > tell if you are experiencing noise from your own ADSL conn=
ection -=20
          > disconnect the incoming phone line (probably just unpluggi=
ng the modem from=20
          > the phone socket will be enough) and there will be a reduc=
tion in noise=20
          > level. Unfortunately, there also seems to be a significant=
 level of similar=20
          > noise here from other sources, probably my neighbors' ADSL=
 via the overhead=20
          > phone lines.
          >=20
          > I have had some success with a noise-cancelling arrangemen=
t here, where the=20
          > ADSL noise is sampled using a current transformer made by=
 passing the=20
          > incoming phone line through a ferrite core, and summed wit=
h the signal from=20
          > loop antennas via a variable phase-shifting and gain-adjus=
ting network,=20
          > which is adjusted for a null in the noise. Also, moving th=
e loop around the=20
          > QTH shows some positions are better than others. Actually,=
 life is a bit=20
          > more complicated at this particular QTH, since there also=
 seems to be=20
          > wide-band noise originating as very low-level sidebands fr=
om the local=20
          > broadcast stations. This requires a second noise-cancellin=
g network to null=20
          > noise from that direction. Also, it was necessary to inser=
t a relay in=20
          > series with the loading coil to disconnect the TX antenna=
 on receive,=20
          > otherwise this coupled more noise into the receiving anten=
nas. But when it=20
          > is all adjusted properly, the overall noise level can be=
 reduced in=20
          > favourable directions by about 20dB, which is worth doing.
          >=20
          > Cheers, Jim Moritz
          > 73 de M0BMU=20
          >=20
          >=20


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        <DIV>Hi LF group</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>Thank you Jim and Laurence for you interest and informati=
on.</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>Lifting this from Wikipedia ....... "With standard ADSL=
 (annex A),=20
        the band from 25.875&nbsp;<A class=3Dmw-redirect title=3DKHz=
           href=3D"http://uk.mc281.mail.yahoo.com/wiki/KHz">kHz</A> to=
 138&nbsp;kHz=20
        is used for upstream communication, while 138&nbsp;kHz =E2=80=
=93 1104&nbsp;kHz=20
        is used for downstream communication" .......&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>Jim is right about 136 and I find the band unaffected it=
 is=20
        in&nbsp;a dead spot in the ADSL spectrum, assuming its clean=
 of=20
        course.</DIV>
        <DIV>I have considered filters that are advertised but since=
 we have a=20
        weak ADSL signal here, easily knocked out by Amateur TX on vir=
tually any=20
        band I felt that a filter would make things worse in that resp=
ect. The=20
        reasoning being that a filter notch sitting right in the middl=
e of the=20
        down stream channel would adversely affect the down load times=
 which are=20
        only a tad better than dial up here. I may make something and=
 try it,=20
        thanks for putting that idea into the mix.</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>It doesn't help that my antenna runs above the BT line (a=
t right=20
        angles)&nbsp;to my neighbours place but having said that trial=
s at the=20
        furthest distance from the line using a frame ant and battery=
 run RX=20
        things were no better. However I did not earth the LW&nbsp;tha=
t I will=20
        try next time.</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>Thanks to all for the inputs I have filed them for refere=
nce.</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>73 <SPAN>petefmt</SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>--- On <B>Wed, 14/10/09, Laurence BY3A-KL1X China=20
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          Laurence BY3A-KL1X China=20
          &lt;hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com&gt;<BR>Subject: RE: LF:=
 MOFMT ADSL=20
          noise<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Date: Wednesday=
, 14=20
          October, 2009, 3:39 AM<BR><BR>
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          I had the same problem on 500 up in KL7 at home. I ended up=
 moving=20
          the&nbsp;modem to the garage where the telephone line comes=
 out of the=20
          ground and keeping the ADSL loaded wiring as short as possib=
le -=20
          &nbsp;then on the telephone side of the router&nbsp;&nbsp;I=
 connected=20
          up a pair of reasonable quality of seried ADSL filters&nbsp;=
outbound=20
          for normal telephone wiring&nbsp;in the house. From 20 over=
 noise I=20
          cant "see&nbsp;it"&nbsp;now as the big antennae has been cho=
cked off.=20
          I only use wireless around the property so it wasnt an=20
          issue.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Next job is to choke off the noise from=
 the AC=20
          power line coming out of the ground - its awful.<BR>&nbsp;<B=
R>relates=20
          to MTA Palmer Alaska solutions ADSL<BR><BR>&nbsp;<BR>Laurenc=
e KL 1=20
          X<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&gt; From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com<BR>&g=
t; To:=20
          rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>&gt; Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009=
 23:10:53=20
          +0100<BR>&gt; Subject: Re: LF: MOFMT ADSL noise<BR>&gt; <BR>=
&gt; Dear=20
          Pete, Paul-Henrik,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; M0FMT wrote:<BR>&gt; ...=
.&gt; Well=20
          I can only conclude it is ADSL because it is just raising th=
e <BR>&gt;=20
          noise floor it is very subtle not really identifiable like=
 say TV LTB,=20
          it's <BR>&gt; a mush...&gt;<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I have problems=
 with ADSL=20
          on 500kHz at my QTH - it sounds like "white noise" <BR>&gt;=
 with no=20
          audible distinctive features I can detect. The noise can be=
 about=20
          <BR>&gt; 10 - 20dB over the band noise here over a fairly wi=
de=20
          bandwidth in the MF <BR>&gt; range. It does not seem to be=
 a problem=20
          at 136k, perhaps because this is in <BR>&gt; the guard band=
 between=20
          upstream and downstream ADSL signals. It is easy to <BR>&gt;=
 tell if=20
          you are experiencing noise from your own ADSL connection -=
 <BR>&gt;=20
          disconnect the incoming phone line (probably just unplugging=
 the modem=20
          from <BR>&gt; the phone socket will be enough) and there wil=
l be a=20
          reduction in noise <BR>&gt; level. Unfortunately, there also=
 seems to=20
          be a significant level of similar <BR>&gt; noise here from=
 other=20
          sources, probably my neighbors' ADSL via the overhead <BR>&g=
t; phone=20
          lines.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I have had some success with a=20
          noise-cancelling arrangement here, where the <BR>&gt; ADSL=
 noise is=20
          sampled using a current transformer made by passing the <BR>=
&gt;=20
          incoming phone line through a ferrite core, and summed with=
 the signal=20
          from <BR>&gt; loop antennas via a variable phase-shifting an=
d=20
          gain-adjusting network, <BR>&gt; which is adjusted for a nul=
l in the=20
          noise. Also, moving the loop around the <BR>&gt; QTH shows=
 some=20
          positions are better than others. Actually, life is a bit <B=
R>&gt;=20
          more complicated at this particular QTH, since there also se=
ems to be=20
          <BR>&gt; wide-band noise originating as very low-level sideb=
ands from=20
          the local <BR>&gt; broadcast stations. This requires a secon=
d=20
          noise-cancelling network to null <BR>&gt; noise from that di=
rection.=20
          Also, it was necessary to insert a relay in <BR>&gt; series=
 with the=20
          loading coil to disconnect the TX antenna on receive, <BR>&g=
t;=20
          otherwise this coupled more noise into the receiving antenna=
s. But=20
          when it <BR>&gt; is all adjusted properly, the overall noise=
 level can=20
          be reduced in <BR>&gt; favourable directions by about 20dB,=
 which is=20
          worth doing.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Cheers, Jim Moritz<BR>&gt; 73=
 de M0BMU=20
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To Quote  from over the pond :-=20

He ... insists that no mathematical formula, however exact it may appe=
ar to be, can be of greater accuracy than the assumptions on which it=
 is based, and he draws the conclusion that experience still remains=
 the great teacher and final judge.
- James Kip Finch

Luckily the  regulation body's use the same  desire guide lines that=
 'we' do , so every one  is happy .... apart from those who insist on=
 working to  6 place's of  decimals  from measurements taken with a ex=
 RAF ww2   Ae currant meter ...=20

Antennas are a dark art , formulate behind closed doors with the  math=
s to  follow  , at Lf we seem to  have geology to contend with as well=
  , surely a  constant, but then again , i'm not a geologist , so I ca=
n only  guess  , so  therefore its ok to  make a guess about things we=
 'don't know' about ...but that assumes we know about everything else=
 ..   ? I don't see  it as a 'problem' as such, a reasonable amount =
 of work has been done, the  results of  which are  published and are=
 accepted as  'fit for purpose'=20

G ..=20


From: Chris=20
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:32 AM
To: RSGB LF Group=20
Subject: LF: ERP at LF


Seems to me that measuring ERP at LF is a bit of a problem. On here I=
 have read comments referring to a stations ERP by various operators=
 : 'Estimate', 'Guess', 'Approx.', 'Reckon I'm fairly close to...', 'A=
pproaching' etc. Nobody REALLY knows exactly! Even Mike's book, 'LF To=
day - A guide to success on 136kHz', refers to certain 'estimates' hav=
ing to be made. The last sentence on the bottom of p81 just about sums=
 it up.
I don't know what the answer is, but it is clear that ERP at LF is far=
 more complex than at VHF/UHF etc. where 'full size' antennas are gene=
rally used.
Chris, G4AYT.


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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><FONT size=3D3>He ... insists that no=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><EM>Luckily the&nbsp; regulation body=
's use the=20
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<DIV><EM><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Antennas are a dark art , formula=
te behind=20
closed doors with the&nbsp; maths to&nbsp; follow&nbsp; , at Lf we see=
m to&nbsp;=20
have geology to contend with as well &nbsp;, surely a&nbsp; constant,=
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:32 AM</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: ERP at LF</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Seems to me that measuring ERP at LF=
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operators&nbsp;: 'Estimate', 'Guess', 'Approx.', 'Reckon I'm fairly cl=
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to...', 'Approaching' etc. Nobody REALLY knows exactly! Even Mike's bo=
ok, 'LF=20
Today - A guide to success on 136kHz', refers to certain 'estimates'=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I don't know what the answer is, but=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Chris, G4AYT.</FONT></DIV>
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Hello LF,
Nice capture DTL
Henny pa3cpm
73s
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Tnx Andrey
I am also qsx 7033 for any calls and QSO XBAND
De mal/g3kev

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> Hi Mal,
> I did not expect that I will see your signal in such early evening.
> capture at 18.21z
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> 73 Andrey
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>> Nw qrv 502.57 CW and QRS3 as appropriate for QSO also QSX 7033 for DX 
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Hello Claude ,

Grabber ON for listening you !

73 Jean-Pierre F1AFJ

Claude Berthebaud a =E9crit :
> hi LF
> Beacon open 137776.20hz "boj" qrss60
> good evening..
> Claude F8boj JN16WA
>  =20

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Hello Claude, LF,
SWL in KO86np.. The river was the aerial:)

hi.... all
Error sorry
Beacon "BOJ" is for 10H18......UTC
137776.20 hz in QRSS 60
excuse my
Claude F8boj JN16WA

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Got this just before dawn - wasnt looking at 137 overnight but switched pr=
e dawn here in China.=20

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Dcf39/Mag are way over S9 on a quiet band so I would expect to see Eu sigs=
 with 1W ERP or around on a good day. Looks like another at 777.9 too but=
 very weak.

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ps also saw some UNID traces on 503.6khz qrss3 but 500 wasnt so good here=
 as 137kHz

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Laurence KL1 X in BY3A OM89UA China

R75 Probe at 80 ft or so.

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ps time on trace in GMT  was at end point not when sig seen.

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Got this just before dawn - wasnt looking at 137 overnight but switched pr=
e&nbsp;dawn here in China. <BR>
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Dcf39/Mag are way over S9 on a quiet band so I would expect to see Eu sigs=
 with 1W ERP or around on a good day. Looks like another at 777.9 too but=
 very weak.<BR>
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ps also saw some UNID traces on 503.6khz qrss3 but 500 wasnt so good here=
 as 137kHz<BR>
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Laurence KL1 X in BY3A OM89UA China<BR>
R75 Probe at 80 ft or so.<BR>
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ps time on trace in GMT &nbsp;was at end point not when sig seen.<BR>
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Roger,

I got a positive decode at 19:04 UTC, stake is now at 337km

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
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Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or=
g] namens John P-G [gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk]
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Onderwerp: Re: LF: Better still again on 500kHz QRPp WSPR

Roger Lapthorn wrote:
> 2009-10-17 16:04  G3XBM  0.503920  -25  0  JO02dg  0.001  G0KTN
> IO81ti 210  242 210kms - brilliant!!! Thanks G0KTN.
>
> 73s Roger G3XBM
>

Let's see if you can manage some REAL DX!

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G'day Dave,

Yes - I did that calculation but came up with 500002.81 Hz - not 499993 Hz.

Still - that seems the most likely explanation as it is very stable.

Thanks.

73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)

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Subject: LF: Re: What is on 499.993 kcs ?


> 
> Or more likely the 32nd harmonic of the 15.625kHz TV line ocillator 
> rate. UK, UA and VK all use the 625 line PAL standard (though parts of 
> USSR are Secam). The line rate is actually locked to the  colour 
> subcarrier of 4.43361875 MHz which may account for the 7Hz shift at 
> 500kHz.
> 
> 73 Dave G3YMC
> 
> http://www.davesergeant.com
>


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Hello Roger,

it depends on the QRSS "speed".
Whatever message you choose I wouldn't make it too long (in time).
Suggestion:
- for QRSS3: "G3XBM JO20DG"
- for QRSS10 "G3XBM"
- for QRSS30 or slower "XBM"

73, Rik ON7YD

At 16:18 21/10/2009, you wrote:
>Good folks,
>
>Some advice please. I am about to organise some keyer ICs for 
>beaconing in QRSS on 500kHz and 136kHz. Is there a standard message 
>format used for QRSS beaconing?
>
>I was proposing to use G3XBM JO02DG or just G3XBM . Is this OK?
>
>73s
>Roger G3XBM
>
>
>
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Hello Roger,<br><br>
it depends on the QRSS &quot;speed&quot;.<br>
Whatever message you choose I wouldn't make it too long (in time).<br>
Suggestion:<br>
- for QRSS3: &quot;G3XBM JO20DG&quot;<br>
- for QRSS10 &quot;G3XBM&quot;<br>
- for QRSS30 or slower &quot;XBM&quot;<br><br>
73, Rik  ON7YD<br><br>
At 16:18 21/10/2009, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Good folks,<br><br>
Some advice please. I am about to organise some keyer ICs for beaconing
in QRSS on 500kHz and 136kHz. Is there a standard message format used for
QRSS beaconing? <br><br>
I was proposing to use <b>G3XBM JO02DG</b> or just <b>G3XBM</b> . Is this
OK?<br><br>
73s<br>
Roger G3XBM<br><br>
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Gm Claude,LF
Capture BOJ
Henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
BOJ 12-10.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Gm Claude,LF</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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Dear all,

G3LDO could be heard again 559 in QRSS on 501,1 kHz around 21.15 UTC,
October 9th, in
eastern Bavaria, JN68GN.

Even more interesting was the CW signal of EI0CF, RST 579, from 21.17
until 21.50
UTC. At first he was in QSO on 501,9 kHz (obviously with Louis,
PA0LCE?). Then he heard G3XIZ and they moved to 503 kHz. G3XIZ could be
"estimated" too for a while, but readibility remainded very poor. 

PA0LCE could not be heard. OH1LSQ (?) was also mentioned in this CW
traffic. Sometimes reading of the CW signals was rather difficult due to
very short qsb, swallowing several letters of a word, even within the
usually rather strong transmission of EI0CF. But in general it was very
interesting to listen.

Hope condx down to Bavaria improve during the winter months.

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB


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Mal

I check your frequency. Sunset here isn't until 2230Z...what time do you 
QRT?

How about a beacon signal? ;~)

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


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> Warren
> Great propagation around EU and Russia at present on 500. I have been 
> copied in Russia and eastern EU while daylight here, also 160m is good 
> with daytime reception and QSO'S as far as the Moscow area
> Probably good to the west but not sure if anyone is monitoring in the USA 
> during evening time here.
> 73 de mal/g3kev
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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>>I have noted that Alan Melia has not updated his propagation  report
>> since the 7th of July!
>> Hope all is well with Alan!
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> 73 Warren K2ORS
>>                WD2XGJ
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Hello Marcin an all ,

Good copy of  SP2KDS last night  ( see picture )

73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

Marcin a =E9crit :
> Hi LF!
> Station SP2KDS will be work today,
> Operation in QRSS will start from 19:00 UTC on 137.700kHz (QRRS3) and
> 137,778kHz (QRSS60).
> Vy 73!
> Marcin SQ2BXI
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A variometer although convenient is not the best way to resonate a LF/=
MF antenna, instead use a coil in series with the antenna wire with th=
e bottom end grounded. Tap the antenna wire down the coil for resonanc=
e/lowest swr, then tap the coax feed cable to the antenna up a few tur=
ns on the coil from ground for the perfect match, coax braid to earth=
 at bottom of coil.=20
then hit the morse key and work some DX
Mal/g3kev

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Petr Mal=FD=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 9:05 AM
  Subject: LF: Variometer on eBay


  Hello all,

  Too lazy to make variometer? LF/MF-related items rarely appear on eB=
ay, here comes one:

  http://cgi.ebay.de/Variometer_W0QQitemZ110447622031QQcmdZViewItemQQp=
tZDE_TV_Video_Elektronik_Funkger%C3%A4te?hash=3Ditem19b730f78f

  73, Petr, OK1FIG


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  No virus found in this incoming message.
  Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20
  Version: 8.5.422 / Virus Database: 270.14.20/2444 - Release Date: 10=
/18/09 09:04:00

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A variometer although convenient is=
 not the best=20
way to resonate a LF/MF antenna, instead use a coil in series with the=
 antenna=20
wire with the bottom end grounded. Tap the antenna wire down the coil=
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h at=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>then hit the morse key and work some=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Variometer on eB=
ay</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello all,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Too lazy to make variometer? LF/MF-=
related items=20
  rarely appear on eBay, here comes one:</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A     href=3D"http://cgi.ebay.de/V=
ariometer_W0QQitemZ110447622031QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDE_TV_Video_Elektron=
ik_Funkger%C3%A4te?hash=3Ditem19b730f78f">http://cgi.ebay.de/Variomete=
r_W0QQitemZ110447622031QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDE_TV_Video_Elektronik_Funkg=
er%C3%A4te?hash=3Ditem19b730f78f</A></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73, Petr, OK1FIG</FONT></DIV>
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Has anyone else noticed how wspr seems to "guess" at callsigns and 
locators? I have noticed that more dodgy decodes have the right format 
than I would have expected by chance.

73

Richard
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G'day Gary,

Well - it seems it is not specific to your grabber - any http://myweb.=
tiscali.co.uk/username address is not working from here.   The http://=
www.tiscali.co.uk link is OK.

Maybe the "myweb..." site is blocked by my ISP (or vice-versa) for som=
e reason.

It is obviously a problem for me only so 'nuff said.

Thanks for the info and help.

(Slips quietly back into the background...)

73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Gary - G4WGT=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 8:22 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers....


  Hi Steve,


  Well, I can't see any reason for the non-connect from my end, I will=
 give you my main web address & you can try from the links page (if yo=
u get in that is) :-


  http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/


  Also you could try from the links on the UK500KHZ group home page :-


  http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz


  You are correct regarding the operation of slow rate 24/7 signals,=
 the nearest to that are a few experimental EU stations a around 505.2=
00kHz but usually only using QRS03 or QRS10.


  IN VIEW OF THE PROBLEMS STEVE IS HAVING WITH MY GRABBER, WILL OTHERS=
 PLEASE TRY IT & REPORT IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS.


  73


  Gary - G4WGT.

















  2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra.com>

    G'day Gary,

    Sorry - still can't connect.   Perhaps someone else should try.

    Sorry to all for using the 'B' word - I of course meant MEPT....

    A bit of research makes me think there are no 24/7 QRSS30 or slowe=
r MEPTs operating on 500kc in the UK/EU - or at least none that I can=
 find.

    My intent was to leave ARGO going overnight here (local time) each=
 day(sic) for a period of time to see if, by some chance, I could see=
 anything this far away.

    Yours grabber is 24/7, but unfortunately for some inexplicable rea=
son I cannot see it currently.     In any case, I would still need a=
 regular MEPT with long carrier bursts, and that appears not to be the=
 case.

    Thanks for the help and info.

    73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Gary - G4WGT=20
      To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
      Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 12:55 AM
      Subject: Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers....


      Hi Steve,=20


      Although I have not been uploading captures today until now (134=
8utc) there is no problem with my site, it has been displaying a messa=
ge "Grabber Temporary Off Line" as I do my PC maintenance on a Monday=
 (hard disk backup's etc).


      You will find that some (maybe most) of the other grabbers are=
 random but mine is 24/7.


      Here is the url again just in case :-


      http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html


      73


      Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.


      2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra.com>

        G'day Gary,

        There currently seems to be a rend in the time-space continuum=
 here down under in VK-land....

        Apart from your site - for which I get a "can't connect".

        From the links on the Google site I get the following results.

        1. GM4SLV - last grab Jan 2009.
        2. CT1DRP - last grab Nov 2008.
        3. Hartmut Wolff - last grab Nov 2008.
        4. GM4ISM - can't connect.
        5. DF6NM - last grab May 2008.
        6. RN3AGC - can't connect.

        The only one that works is the http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab=
/ link.

        What am I missing ?

        73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)
          ----- Original Message -----=20
          From: Gary - G4WGT=20
          To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
          Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 8:28 PM
          Subject: Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers....


          Hi Steve,=20


          A small list of grabbers on the UK500KHZ Group web site at=
 :-


          http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers


          Also my own grabber page for the UK, EU & USA bands at :-


          http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html


          73


          Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.





          2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra.com>

            G'day All,

            In an expression of extreme optimism I am interested in ge=
tting details of 500kc beacons (preferably QRSS30 and slower) in Europ=
e.    To get real-time confirmation of on-air status I am also looking=
 for relevant local grabbers for those beacons.

            73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)=20







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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G'day Gary,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Well - it seems it is not specific to=
 your grabber=20
- any <A   href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/username">http://myweb.t=
iscali.co.uk/username</A>=20
address is not working from here.&nbsp;&nbsp; The <A   href=3D"http://=
www.tiscali.co.uk">http://www.tiscali.co.uk</A> </FONT>link is=20
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Maybe the "myweb..." site is blocked=
 by my ISP (or=20
vice-versa)&nbsp;for some reason.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>It is obviously a problem for me only=
 so 'nuff=20
said.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks for the info and help.</FONT><=
/DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>(Slips quietly back into the=20
background...)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE   style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT:=
 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"   dir=
=3Dltr>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV     style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color:=
 black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dg4wgt@tiscali.co.uk href=3D"mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk">G=
ary -=20
  G4WGT</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@=
blacksheep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_l=
f_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 06, 20=
09 8:22=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: 500kc beacon=
s and=20
  grabbers....</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Hi Steve,
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Well, I can't see any reason for the non-connect from my end,=
 I will give=20
  you my main web address &amp; you can try from the links page (if yo=
u get in=20
  that is) :-</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><A     href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/">http://myw=
eb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/</A></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Also you could try from the links on the UK500KHZ group home pa=
ge=20
:-</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><A     href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz">http://=
groups.google.com/group/uk500khz</A></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>You are correct regarding the operation of slow rate 24/7 signa=
ls, the=20
  nearest to that are a few experimental EU stations a around 505.200k=
Hz but=20
  usually only using QRS03 or QRS10.</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>IN VIEW OF THE PROBLEMS STEVE IS HAVING WITH MY GRABBER, WILL=
 OTHERS=20
  PLEASE TRY IT &amp; REPORT IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS.</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>73</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Gary - G4WGT.</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><A href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz"></A><BR>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><BR><BR>
  <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A  =
   href=3D"mailto:vk2zto@djirra.com"     target=3D_blank>vk2zto@djirra=
.com</A>&gt;</SPAN><BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE     style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0p=
x 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"     class=3Dgmail_quote>
    <DIV bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G'day Gary,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Sorry - still can't connect.&nbsp=
;&nbsp;=20
    Perhaps someone else should try.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Sorry to all for using the 'B' wo=
rd - I of=20
    course meant MEPT....</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>A bit of research makes me think=
 there are no=20
    24/7 QRSS30 or slower MEPTs operating on 500kc in the UK/EU&nbsp;-=
 or at=20
    least none that I can find.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>My intent was to leave ARGO going=
 overnight=20
    here (local time) each day(sic) for a period of time to see if, by=
 some=20
    chance, I could see anything this far away.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Yours grabber is 24/7, but unfort=
unately for=20
    some inexplicable reason I cannot see it=20
    currently.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;In any case,&nbsp;I would=
 still need=20
    a regular MEPT with long carrier bursts, and that appears not to=
 be the=20
    case.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks for the help and info.</FO=
NT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)</FONT></D=
IV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE       style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING=
-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=
       dir=3Dltr>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </D=
IV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B>From:</B=
> <A         title=3Dg4wgt@tiscali.co.uk href=3D"mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.=
co.uk"         target=3D_blank>Gary - G4WGT</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A         title=3Drs=
gb_lf_group@blacksheep.org         href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org"         target=3D_blank>rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A> </D=
IV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 06=
, 2009 12:55=20
      AM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: 500kc be=
acons and=20
      grabbers....</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>Hi Steve,=20
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV>Although I have not been uploading captures today until now=
 (1348utc)=20
      there is no problem with my site, it has been displaying a messa=
ge=20
      "Grabber Temporary Off Line" as I do my PC maintenance on a Mond=
ay (hard=20
      disk backup's etc).</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV>You will find that some (maybe most) of the other grabbers=
 are random=20
      but mine is 24/7.</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV>Here is the url again just in case :-</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><A href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.htm=
l"         target=3D_blank>http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber=
2.html</A></DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><A href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.htm=
l"         target=3D_blank></A>73</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.<BR><BR>
      <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A=
         href=3D"mailto:vk2zto@djirra.com"         target=3D_blank>vk2=
zto@djirra.com</A>&gt;</SPAN><BR>
      <BLOCKQUOTE         style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN=
: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"         class=3Dgmail_quote>
        <DIV bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G'day Gary,</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>There currently seems to be=
 a rend in the=20
        time-space continuum here down under in VK-land....</FONT></DI=
V>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Apart from your site - for wh=
ich I get a=20
        "can't connect".</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>From the links on&nbsp;the Go=
ogle site I=20
        get the following results.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>1. GM4SLV - last grab Jan=20
2009.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>2. CT1DRP - last grab Nov=20
2008.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>3. Hartmut Wolff - last grab=
 Nov=20
        2008.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>4. GM4ISM - can't connect.</F=
ONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>5. DF6NM - last grab May 2008=
.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>6. RN3AGC - can't connect.</F=
ONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>The only one that works is th=
e <A           href=3D"http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/" rel=3Dnofollo=
w target=3D_blank><FONT           size=3D2           face=3D"Times New=
 Roman">http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/</FONT></A>&nbsp;link.</FONT><=
/DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>What am I missing ?</FONT></D=
IV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)</FONT=
></DIV>
        <BLOCKQUOTE           style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid;=
 PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT=
: 0px"           dir=3Dltr>
          <DIV>
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=
 </DIV>
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B>From=
:</B> <A             title=3Dg4wgt@tiscali.co.uk href=3D"mailto:g4wgt@=
tiscali.co.uk"             target=3D_blank>Gary - G4WGT</A> </DIV>
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A             ti=
tle=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org             href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_=
group@blacksheep.org"             target=3D_blank>rsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org</A> </DIV>
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October=
 05, 2009=20
          8:28 PM</DIV>
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: 500k=
c beacons=20
          and grabbers....</DIV>
          <DIV><BR></DIV></DIV>
          <DIV>
          <DIV></DIV>
          <DIV>Hi Steve,=20
          <DIV><BR></DIV>
          <DIV>A small list of grabbers on the UK500KHZ Group web site=
 at=20
          :-</DIV>
          <DIV><BR></DIV>
          <DIV><A             href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/u=
k500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers"             target=3D_blank>http://group=
s.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers</A></DIV>
          <DIV><BR></DIV>
          <DIV>Also my own grabber page for the UK, EU &amp; USA bands=
 at=20
          :-</DIV>
          <DIV><BR></DIV>
          <DIV><A href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2=
.html"             target=3D_blank>http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor=
/grabber2.html</A></DIV>
          <DIV><BR></DIV>
          <DIV>73</DIV>
          <DIV><BR></DIV>
          <DIV>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.</DIV>
          <DIV><BR></DIV>
          <DIV><A             href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/u=
k500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers"             target=3D_blank></A><BR><BR>
          <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&l=
t;<A             href=3D"mailto:vk2zto@djirra.com"             target=
=3D_blank>vk2zto@djirra.com</A>&gt;</SPAN><BR>
          <BLOCKQUOTE             style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid=
; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"             class=3Dgm=
ail_quote>G'day All,<BR><BR>In an expression of extreme=20
            optimism I am interested in getting details of 500kc beaco=
ns=20
            (preferably QRSS30 and slower) in Europe. &nbsp; &nbsp;To=
 get=20
            real-time confirmation of on-air status I am also looking=
 for=20
            relevant local grabbers for those beacons.<BR><BR>73 Steve=
 VK2ZTO=20
            (VK2XV)=20
        <BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>=
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Hi Henny, LF!
Henny, in the morning I have been pleasantly surprised, having seen your signal.
Last night received also F8BOJ and UA9CS.
The next night the grabber too will work. Further till Monday it is OFF.
Tomorrow I leave in KO86NP. The receiver there will be included every
evening from 21.00. I hope, the air there will be purer, than in Moscow.
I will inform results SWL when I will return, on Sunday or Monday.
Excuse me for bad English:)

73 Andrey


> Hi Andrey,LF,
> TNX for the grabber,
> antenne sloper,200 watt 2150km
> Henny pa3cpm
> best 73s




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Nothing so far Roger , just coming up to  2400 z  about to close=20

G ..=20


From: Roger Lapthorn=20
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 6:34 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz G4NT WSPR beaconing


Let us hope you manage to hear my signal too later in the evening Clem=
ens.

73s
Roger G3XBM


2009/10/25 Clemens Paul <cpaul@gmx.net>

         2009-10-25 18:00   G4JNT   0.503850   +12   0   IO90iv   0.2=
   DL4RAJ   JN68kj   1055   100 =20


  This evening looks promising.

  73
  Clemens
  DL4RAJ



--=20
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http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088



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No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20
Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.31/2458 - Release Date: 10/2=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Nothing so far Roger , just coming up=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G .. </FONT></DIV>
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@gmail.com   href=3D"mailto:rogerlapthorn@gmail.com">Roger Lapthorn</A=
> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 25, 2009 6:34 PM</DIV>
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IV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Let us hope you manage to hear my signal too later in=
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Clemens.<BR><BR>73s<BR>Roger G3XBM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>2009/10/25 Clemens Paul <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&lt;<=
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      <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;2009-10-25 18:00&nbsp;</TD>
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>This evening looks promising.</FONT=
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2   face=3DArial>73<BR>Clemens<BR>DL4RAJ</FONT></D=
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k</A><BR>G3XBM &nbsp;=20
&nbsp;GQRP 1678 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;ISWL G11088<BR>
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Hi Lubos and LF group
Many thanks for the report .
i am in qso with HB9ASB hello toni ur "O"+
good sunday for all
Claude F8boj
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Lubos OK2BVG=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 11:06 AM
  Subject: LF: F8BOJ


  There is the next good signal on 137.740kHz >> F8BOJ.

  Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS=20


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Hi Lubos and LF group</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Many thanks for the report&nbsp;.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>i am in qso with HB9ASB hello toni ur "O"+</FO=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>good sunday for all</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>There is the next good signal on 137.740kHz &gt;&gt;=
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hi John 
Many thanks for the report activity above
137 khz..
GOOD sunday for all
Claude F8boj JN16wa
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Subject: LF: Activity on 137 - 3 to 4 Oct 2009


My broadband link is out of service and is unlikely to be fixed before
Monday 55th.

Meanwhile, via a lashup dialup link and a lot of cut and paste, here is a
summry of what I have received:

HB9ASB 20dB over noise about 1800z. 3/10/09. 

M0BMU 15 to 20dB over QRN calling RU6LA at 1916z. 3/10/09.

F4DTL 20dB over QRN at 2000z. 3/10/09.

F8BOJ 40dB over QRN on 137 at 0710z. 4/10/09.

73
John F5VLF

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Rik

I've been watching for your WSPR signal when you are on...although most 
nights you appear to shut down early. Sunset here is 2150Z. What power and 
antenna are you running?

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2

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> Hello Vernon,
>
> tuning frequency is 502.4kHz USB mode.
> I will run a WSPR beacon tonight (20-24UTC).
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
>
>
> At 16:38 29/10/2009, you wrote:
>>Hi everyone.....what dial frequency is everyone using for 500khz wspr....I
>>finally have my long wires out and have been monitoring. I can leave WSPR
>>running almost 24/7 to see if I can catch a WSPR signal from across the
>>pond. I did catch a couple last year which was great!!!
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Vernon - VE1VDM
>>FN85ij
>
> 



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Steve=20

You spotted the  deliberate  mistake ...  the grabber page on the  gro=
up is sort of maintained .. but  everything is running  on a as and wh=
en basis  . I added the pages when they where live .. but  as you  can=
 see  .. not  all are now  running ...and as for the  beacons .. e'rrr=
rr   well  permanent beacons  are not  allowed .. except G4JNT who is=
 now running  dual mode .(need to  get the  final power level for  wsp=
r).. and so on into the  night  ..

If anyone has a live 500 grabber that they would  like to  list  on th=
e page , please  email the  web link and I will add  it  to the 'top'=
  of the   page .. or if you  find one  let 'us' know !=20

tnx - Graham

G0NBD





From: VK2ZTO=20
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 12:13 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers....


G'day Gary,

There currently seems to be a rend in the time-space continuum here do=
wn under in VK-land....

Apart from your site - for which I get a "can't connect".

>From the links on the Google site I get the following results.

1. GM4SLV - last grab Jan 2009.
2. CT1DRP - last grab Nov 2008.
3. Hartmut Wolff - last grab Nov 2008.
4. GM4ISM - can't connect.
5. DF6NM - last grab May 2008.
6. RN3AGC - can't connect.

The only one that works is the http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/ link.

What am I missing ?

73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Gary - G4WGT=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 8:28 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers....


  Hi Steve,=20


  A small list of grabbers on the UK500KHZ Group web site at :-


  http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers


  Also my own grabber page for the UK, EU & USA bands at :-


  http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html


  73


  Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.





  2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra.com>

    G'day All,

    In an expression of extreme optimism I am interested in getting de=
tails of 500kc beacons (preferably QRSS30 and slower) in Europe.    To=
 get real-time confirmation of on-air status I am also looking for rel=
evant local grabbers for those beacons.

    73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)=20






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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Steve </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>You spotted the&nbsp; deliberate&nbsp=
; mistake=20
...&nbsp; the grabber page on the&nbsp; group is sort of maintained ..=
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everything is running&nbsp; on a as and when basis&nbsp; . I added the=
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when they where live .. but&nbsp; as you&nbsp; can see&nbsp; .. not&nb=
sp; all=20
are now&nbsp; running ...and as for the&nbsp; beacons ..&nbsp;e'rrrrr=
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well&nbsp; permanent beacons&nbsp; are not&nbsp; allowed .. except G4J=
NT who is=20
now running&nbsp; dual mode .(need to&nbsp; get the&nbsp; final power=
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for&nbsp; wspr).. and so on into the&nbsp; night&nbsp; ..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>If anyone has a live 500 grabber that=
 they=20
would&nbsp; like to&nbsp; list&nbsp; on the page , please&nbsp; email=
 the&nbsp;=20
web link and I will add&nbsp; it&nbsp; to&nbsp;the&nbsp;'top'&nbsp; of=
 the&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;page .. or if you&nbsp; find one&nbsp; let 'us' know ! </FONT></=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>tnx - Graham</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G0NBD</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G'day Gary,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>There currently seems to be a rend in=
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time-space continuum here down under in VK-land....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Apart from your site - for which I ge=
t a "can't=20
connect".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>From the links on&nbsp;the Google sit=
e I get the=20
following results.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>1. GM4SLV - last grab Jan 2009.</FONT=
></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>2. CT1DRP - last grab Nov 2008.</FONT=
></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>3. Hartmut Wolff - last grab Nov 2008=
.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>4. GM4ISM - can't connect.</FONT></DI=
V>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>5. DF6NM - last grab May 2008.</FONT>=
</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>6. RN3AGC - can't connect.</FONT></DI=
V>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>The only one that works is the <A  =
 href=3D"http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/" rel=3Dnofollow><FONT size=
=3D2   face=3D"Times New Roman">http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/</FONT=
></A>&nbsp;link.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>What am I missing ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)</FONT></DIV>
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ary -=20
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s and=20
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>Hi Steve,=20
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>A small list of grabbers on the UK500KHZ Group web site at :-</=
DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><A     href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-=
khz-grabbers">http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grab=
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  <DIV>Also my own grabber page for the UK, EU &amp; USA bands at :-</=
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  <DIV>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.</DIV>
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x 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"     class=3Dgmail_quote>G'day All,<BR>=
<BR>In an expression of extreme optimism I=20
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30 and=20
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Thanks Gary=20

Which version of  fldigi are you  running ?  might  send that over to=
  w1hkj  for  info=20

tnx- G ..


From: Gary - G4WGT=20
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:51 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: Re: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000


Hi Graham, LF,


Copying your THROB2 transmission very well here but only about 35 mile=
s away.


I am running FLdigi & MultiPSK software together & it looks like Multi=
PSK has the upper hand, certainly at this distance. Be interesting to=
 have a comparison on a weaker signal.


Below are the same seven lines from both software decoders.




FLdigi
THE QUICK BROWN FOK JUMPED OVER THE LAZVY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TVLTIN=
G
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 01234567898G0NBD TESTIN=
G
THE QUICK BROWB FOKBJUMPVD OVER THE LAZEY MOON 012345A78O G7BZD TVSTID=
G
THE QUICK BROWN FOK JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 012345678,PG0NBD TVLTPD=
F
7HE.QU8CY BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THV LAZEY MOOBPV1I3456785 G0NZCBTVLT=
 NG
THE QUICK BROWN FOK JSMOED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 01234O5789 G0FBD TESTIA=
G
7HEQQU8CY BROWN FOX JUMPED OVVR THVGLRZVB MOON O123RO67)6GG0NZDGTVLJUF=
F


MultiPSK
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTIN=
G
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTIN=
G
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTIN=
G
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTIN=
G
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTIN=
G
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTIN=
G
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTIN=
G


73,


Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo






2009/10/27 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>

  Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency=20

  TX set  502.000 USB
  Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency=20

  Repeat time 60  seconds =20

  RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'  time=20

  Reports / observations  =20

  Tnx  Graham

  G0NBD - IO83LK =20







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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks Gary </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Which version of&nbsp; fldigi are you=
&nbsp; running=20
?&nbsp; might&nbsp; send that over to&nbsp; w1hkj&nbsp; for&nbsp; info=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>tnx- G ..</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dg4wgt@tiscali=
.co.uk   href=3D"mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk">Gary - G4WGT</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:51 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mail=
to:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000</DIV></DIV></DIV=
>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Hi Graham, LF,</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Copying your THROB2 transmission very well here but only about 35=
 miles=20
away.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I am running FLdigi &amp; MultiPSK software together &amp; it loo=
ks like=20
MultiPSK has the upper hand, certainly at this distance. Be interestin=
g to have=20
a comparison on a weaker signal.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Below are the same seven lines from both software decoders.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>FLdigi</DIV>
<DIV>THE QUICK BROWN FOK JUMPED OVER THE LAZVY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD=
=20
TVLTING</DIV>
<DIV>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 01234567898G0NBD=
=20
TESTING</DIV>
<DIV>THE QUICK BROWB FOKBJUMPVD OVER THE LAZEY MOON 012345A78O G7BZD=
=20
TVSTIDG</DIV>
<DIV>THE QUICK BROWN FOK JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 012345678,PG0NBD=
=20
TVLTPDF</DIV>
<DIV>7HE.QU8CY BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THV LAZEY MOOBPV1I3456785 G0NZCBT=
VLT=20
NG</DIV>
<DIV>THE QUICK BROWN FOK JSMOED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 01234O5789 G0FBD=
=20
TESTIAG</DIV>
<DIV>7HEQQU8CY BROWN FOX JUMPED OVVR THVGLRZVB MOON=20
O123RO67)6GG0NZDGTVLJUFF</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>MultiPSK</DIV>
<DIV>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD=
=20
TESTING</DIV>
<DIV>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD=
=20
TESTING</DIV>
<DIV>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD=
=20
TESTING</DIV>
<DIV>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD=
=20
TESTING</DIV>
<DIV>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD=
=20
TESTING</DIV>
<DIV>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD=
=20
TESTING</DIV>
<DIV>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD=
=20
TESTING</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>73,</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><BR>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>2009/10/27 Graham <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A   hr=
ef=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk"   target=3D_blank>g8fzk@g8fzk.fs=
net.co.uk</A>&gt;</SPAN><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE   style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0p=
x 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"   class=3Dgmail_quote>
  <DIV style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 10px; PADDING-RIGHT: 10px; PADDING-TOP:=
 15px"     name=3D"Compose message area">
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; THROB-2-&nbsp; Beacon=
&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  503.000 khz centre&nbsp; frequency </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>TX set&nbsp; 502.000 USB</FONT></DI=
V>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Audio&nbsp; 1000 Hz cent frequency=
 </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Repeat time 60&nbsp; seconds&nbsp;=
 </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>RX&nbsp; 'ON'&nbsp; during cycle tx=
 'off'=20
  &nbsp;time </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Reports / observations&nbsp;&nbsp;=
 </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx&nbsp; Graham</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G0NBD - IO83LK=20
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David,
There is a whole lot of stuff written about determining ERP involving a 
lot of maths. The most accurate method is to measure the actual field 
strength. These methods are described in 'LF Today' and 'The Low 
Frequency Experimenter's Handbook' available from ARRL Books (look in 
RSGB section). Also check out QST Nov 1998 and you will see the antenna 
I am using.
My unconventional method of working out ERP is to calculate antenna gain 
(loss) using EZNEC. Because the radiation R is so low much of the gain 
is determined by the ground characteristics. This parameter I determine 
by measuring the RF current on the real antenna which is input into the 
model. My present antenna has a gain of around -12dBi.
I trust this helps

Peter Dodd, G3LDO

>  
> As an interested observer from the other side of the pond, how do you 
> determine that you are close to the ERP limit?? I'd be interested in 
> knowing as I am trying to do some pro-bono work for the ARRL on 
> getting use of 137 kHz here in the USA.
>  
> Tnx & 73,
>  
> David Weinreich
> WA2VUJ/3
>
> >>>
> *From: *  Peter Dodd <g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk>
> *To:*     <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> *Date: *  10/07/09 3:09 PM
> *Subject: *   LF:  Re Propagation report
>
> Hi Jay,
> I will be sending a beacon signal QRSS3 on 501.1kHz until 2330z.
> I have modified my old PL519 TV sweep tube transmitter which ran about
> 60 to 70W. It now has two PL519s in parallel running 120W.
> I have taken down the HF quad until the sunspots wake up a bit and
> reinstalled the antenna used for 73/136kHz so I am now running close to
> the new ERP limit.
>
>
> Peter, G3LDO
>



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Report  from Gary , that he  is  getting  100% decode with  Multipsk=
    and  slightly less  using Fldigi ......

MULTIPSK        >>>>>        http://f6cte.free.fr/index_anglais.htm =
 <<<<<<<<<<<


From: Graham=20
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:28 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency=20

TX set  502.000 USB
Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency=20

Repeat time 60  seconds =20

RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'  time=20

Reports / observations  =20

Tnx  Graham

G0NBD - IO83LK =20





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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Report&nbsp; from Gary , that he&nbsp=
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getting&nbsp; 100% decode with&nbsp; Multipsk&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; and&nb=
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slightly less&nbsp; using Fldigi ......</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>MULTIPSK&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
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&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A   ti=
tle=3D"http://f6cte.free.fr/index_anglais.htm&#10;CTRL + Click to foll=
ow link"   href=3D"http://f6cte.free.fr/index_anglais.htm">http://f6ct=
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:g8f=
zk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailto=
:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:28 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mail=
to:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000 </DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; THROB-2-&nbsp; Beacon&n=
bsp;&nbsp;=20
503.000 khz centre&nbsp; frequency </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>TX set&nbsp; 502.000 USB</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Audio&nbsp; 1000 Hz cent frequency </=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Repeat time 60&nbsp; seconds&nbsp; </=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>RX&nbsp; 'ON'&nbsp; during cycle tx=
 'off'=20
&nbsp;time </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Reports / observations&nbsp;&nbsp; </=
FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx&nbsp; Graham</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G0NBD - IO83LK </FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><BR=
><BR>
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=20
Yes andrey thanx, im beaconing now on 137776 QRSS90 with 300W but the rain=
 =20
modified the values of the antenna.
=20
Regards Friend.
F4DTL Nicolas
=20
Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 21/10/2009 22:53:46 Paris, Madrid (heure d'=E9t=
=E9), =20
rn3agc@mail.ru a =E9crit :

Nicolas,
If there is a possibility, too try. Propagation good,  for
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<DIV>Yes andrey thanx, im beaconing now on 137776 QRSS90 with 300W but the=
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to Lubos (and anyone who may be interested):
Did you ever hear of a software named "virtual audio cable"? For example=
 you can send your SDR-signal to the virtual Soundcard. From that you can=
 decode THROB or what ever. So you do not need a second computer for decod=
ing. The speed of the computer who has to mange both must be higher, of co=
urse.
Horst DO1KHS

> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: "Lubos OK2BVG" <bvgbob@hotmail.com>
> Gesendet: 27.10.09 22:51:54
> An: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Betreff: RE: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000

Hello Graham, LF!
> Sorry, but I use my computer together with SDR-IQ as a LF receiver=20
> and I haven=B4t got the other PC for decoding THROB packets. But your=20
> signal is nice!
>=20
> Lubos, OK2BVG
>=20
> From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:34:27 +0000
> Subject: Re: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000
>=20
> Tnx Lubos=20
>=20
> Are you able to decode any of the signal ???
>=20
> I use > http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html
>=20
> Tnx - Graham ..
>=20
>  *From:*Lubos OK2BVG
>  *Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:05 PM
>  *To:*rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>  *Subject:* RE: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000
>=20
> Hello Graham, LF!
> I see your beacon=B4s packets very well.
>=20
> 73!
>=20
> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
> From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:28:12 +0000
> Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20
>=20
> Running THROB-2- Beacon 503.000 khz centre frequency=20
>=20
> TX set 502.000 USB
> Audio 1000 Hz cent frequency=20
>=20
> Repeat time 60 seconds=20
>=20
> RX 'ON' during cycle tx 'off' time=20
>=20
> Reports / observations=20
>=20
> Tnx Graham
>=20
> G0NBD - IO83LK=20
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Hi Claude!

Claude Berthebaud wrote:
> Good evening ALL
> The Beacon "BOJ" is open  QRSS60  137776.2hz
> Good night
> Claude F8boj JN16WA
Dmitry
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good evening Dmitry
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> Hi Claude!
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Hi Paul-Henrik, Michael, Nicolas, Marcin, LF,
Capture at 21.50

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One night of DI2AG WSPR beacon:

2134 -10  3.5   0.505075  0 DI2AG JN59 27
2144  -7  3.6   0.505075  0 DI2AG JN59 27
2150  -5  3.6   0.505075  0 DI2AG JN59 27
2206  -9  3.6   0.505075  0 DI2AG JN59 27
2212  -9  3.5   0.505075  0 DI2AG JN59 27
2216 -16  3.7   0.505075  0 DI2AG JN59 27
2228 -14  3.5   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
2234 -17  3.5   0.505075  0 DI2AG JN59 27
2238 -17  3.6   0.505075  0 DI2AG JN59 27
2302  -9  4.1   0.505076 -1 DI2AG JN59 27
2312  -9  3.9   0.505075  0 DI2AG JN59 27
2318 -13  3.5   0.505075  0 DI2AG JN59 27
2328  -9  4.0   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
2332 -11  3.8   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
2338 -11  3.7   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
2346 -16  3.9   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
2352 -18  4.1   0.505076 -1 DI2AG JN59 27
2358 -13  3.7   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0002 -12  4.2   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0010 -12  4.3   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0016 -11  4.3   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0022 -10  3.9   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0030 -11  3.6   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0036 -10  4.1   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0040 -11  3.8   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0048  -9  3.8   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0052 -14  3.8   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0108 -11  4.0   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0136  -8  4.2   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0142 -33 -2.0   0.505167  1 FZ6BU OQ90 37
0152  -7  4.2   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0156  -9  3.7   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0204  -6  4.0   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0208 -33 -1.0   0.505168  0 OTS/EK6TYO R S6
0210  -4  3.8   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0240  -4  3.9   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0246  -9  4.2   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0254  -6  4.0   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0306 -11  3.9   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0326  -9  4.5   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0334 -11  3.9   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0340 -10  4.5   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0352 -11  4.1   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0358 -11  4.1   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0410 -13  4.1   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0418 -10  4.3   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0426 -14  4.6   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0430 -12  4.5   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0438 -12  4.6   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0452  -9  4.1   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0504 -12  4.3   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0512 -13  4.7   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0516 -11  4.6   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0638 -16  4.6   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0642 -12  5.0   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0648 -11  4.4   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0652 -10  4.7   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0954 -22  4.1   0.505023 -3 0CL/2B4 GQ R S9

A few false decoding included :-)
This time I left the IF BW at 300 Hz, so the S/N ratios are more correct.
23m long wire, Perseus SDR RX.

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G'day Gary,

There currently seems to be a rend in the time-space continuum here do=
wn under in VK-land....

Apart from your site - for which I get a "can't connect".

>From the links on the Google site I get the following results.

1. GM4SLV - last grab Jan 2009.
2. CT1DRP - last grab Nov 2008.
3. Hartmut Wolff - last grab Nov 2008.
4. GM4ISM - can't connect.
5. DF6NM - last grab May 2008.
6. RN3AGC - can't connect.

The only one that works is the http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/ link.

What am I missing ?

73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Gary - G4WGT=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 8:28 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers....


  Hi Steve,


  A small list of grabbers on the UK500KHZ Group web site at :-


  http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers


  Also my own grabber page for the UK, EU & USA bands at :-


  http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html


  73


  Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.





  2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra.com>

    G'day All,

    In an expression of extreme optimism I am interested in getting de=
tails of 500kc beacons (preferably QRSS30 and slower) in Europe.    To=
 get real-time confirmation of on-air status I am also looking for rel=
evant local grabbers for those beacons.

    73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)=20



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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G'day Gary,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>There currently seems to be a rend in=
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time-space continuum here down under in VK-land....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Apart from your site - for which I ge=
t a "can't=20
connect".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>From the links on&nbsp;the Google sit=
e I get the=20
following results.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>1. GM4SLV - last grab Jan 2009.</FONT=
></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>2. CT1DRP - last grab Nov 2008.</FONT=
></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>3. Hartmut Wolff - last grab Nov 2008=
.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>4. GM4ISM - can't connect.</FONT></DI=
V>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>5. DF6NM - last grab May 2008.</FONT>=
</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>6. RN3AGC - can't connect.</FONT></DI=
V>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>The only one that works is the <A  =
 href=3D"http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/" rel=3Dnofollow><FONT size=
=3D2   face=3D"Times New Roman">http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/</FONT=
></A>&nbsp;link.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>What am I missing ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE   style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT:=
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ary -=20
  G4WGT</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@=
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  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 05, 200=
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  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: 500kc beacon=
s and=20
  grabbers....</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Hi Steve,
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>A small list of grabbers on the UK500KHZ Group web site at :-</=
DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><A     href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-=
khz-grabbers">http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grab=
bers</A></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Also my own grabber page for the UK, EU &amp; USA bands at :-</=
DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><A     href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.htm=
l">http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html</A></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>73</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><A     href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-=
khz-grabbers"></A><BR><BR>
  <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A  =
   href=3D"mailto:vk2zto@djirra.com">vk2zto@djirra.com</A>&gt;</SPAN><=
BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE     style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0p=
x 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"     class=3Dgmail_quote>G'day All,<BR>=
<BR>In an expression of extreme optimism I=20
    am interested in getting details of 500kc beacons (preferably QRSS=
30 and=20
    slower) in Europe. &nbsp; &nbsp;To get real-time confirmation of=
 on-air=20
    status I am also looking for relevant local grabbers for those=20
    beacons.<BR><BR>73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)=20
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Hello Peter, Jay, LF

I had the radio tuned to 501.1kHz for a couple of hours last night but fou=
nd the
signal to be weakish for a close to legal limit ERP UK station under norma=
l/good
conditions. The signal was very stable with no deep QSB over the period I
followed it.

I know it is impossible to make a proper estimation like this, just wanted=
 to
add my reception result. Perhaps something wasn't working as intended/anno=
unced
or then it was just condx changing for the worse after a good period lasti=
ng
several days.


Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
Vaasa / KP03SD


Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:

> Peter
>
> Sorry...nothing seen. T storms over Atlantic generating some pretty good
> static levels.
>
> Jay
>
>




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>Listened at abt 21:00 Clock time 30th Oct 2009 on 0.5013 mc/s to a 
>fb rag chew on CW all stations copied, Finbar in some QSB but abt 
>90% copied here in North Hertfordshire IO91UX.

Back to the future ?

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<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Listened at abt 21:00 Clock time
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Beacon   QRT 2400 =20

Many thanks  for the reports  ....  interesting results=20

73

Graham ..  =20


From: Graham=20
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:28 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency=20

TX set  502.000 USB
Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency=20

Repeat time 60  seconds =20

RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'  time=20

Reports / observations  =20

Tnx  Graham

G0NBD - IO83LK =20





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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Beacon&nbsp;&nbsp; QRT 2400&nbsp; </F=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Many thanks&nbsp; for the reports&nbs=
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interesting results&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dg8fzk@g8fzk.f=
snet.co.uk   href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:28 PM</DIV>
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to:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000 </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; THROB-2-&nbsp; Beacon&n=
bsp;&nbsp;=20
503.000 khz centre&nbsp; frequency </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>RX&nbsp; 'ON'&nbsp; during cycle tx=
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&nbsp;time </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Reports / observations&nbsp;&nbsp; </=
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx&nbsp; Graham</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G0NBD - IO83LK </FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><BR=
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Claude,

I copied the attached signal in the 2230-2245 period, well before local sunset. The Loran line is at 776.104. 

John, W1TAG
(in Maine at FN43sv)

---- Claude Berthebaud <f8boj@club-internet.fr> wrote: 
> GM Laurence
> I passed this evening "BOJ" on the frequency 137776.12hz in qrss 60 
>  I started transmission at 18h you Finally just to finish at 10.40 you ... this is my transmission on the grabber of RN3AGC ... 
> Claude F8boj JN16WA .....
> 
> .
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China 
>   To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 
>   Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 12:43 AM
>   Subject: LF: 137.7761 and a bit
> 
> 
>    
>   Got this just before dawn - wasnt looking at 137 overnight but switched pre dawn here in China. 
>    
>   Dcf39/Mag are way over S9 on a quiet band so I would expect to see Eu sigs with 1W ERP or around on a good day. Looks like another at 777.9 too but very weak.
>    
>   ps also saw some UNID traces on 503.6khz qrss3 but 500 wasnt so good here as 137kHz
>    
>   Laurence KL1 X in BY3A OM89UA China
>   R75 Probe at 80 ft or so.
>    
>   ps time on trace in GMT  was at end point not when sig seen.
>    
>    
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Hi Claude,
I switch the grabber on 136 khz. www.rn3agc.msk.ru/grabber
Good night!

73 Andrey


hi LF
137776.20hz BOJ qrss 60...21h18 TU
Claude F8boj JN16WA


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Anyone copy JH1GVH last night?

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I have seen some similar type antennas while flying across the USA years ago 
painted RED and WHITE if I remember correctly.
That was in the days when LF and MF were the norm for broadcasting, before 
the advent of FM and satellites, although there is still plenty of LF/MF 
broadcasting but mainly low power local stations these days, and antenna 
masts are more modest structures than they used to be.
de mal/g3kev

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> How about that?
> http://www.waniewski.de/id414.htm
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> HTH
> 73
> Clemens
> DL4RAJ
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>>I have a 1936 edition of Electrical Engineers Handbook by Pender - 
>>McIlwain
>> which show a diagram of a 1030 foot antenna in Budapest used on 545 kc. 
>> So far
>> I have found no history on this antenna.  Anyone have any info on this 
>> station
>> and antenna's history?
>>
>> Dex
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Hi LF,
I am testing my Class D Tx after a PA fail yesterday.
Frequency 503.6kHz
QRS03 at 5 minute intervals & CW ID.
1 watt ERP.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.

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Hi LF,<div><br></div><div>I am testing my Class D Tx after a PA fail yesterday.</div><div>Frequency 503.6kHz</div><div>QRS03 at 5 minute intervals &amp; CW ID.</div><div>1 watt ERP.</div><div><br></div><div>73</div><div><br>
</div><div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.</div>

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Thanks for the reports Richard. You did very well for your first try with
WSPR and hearing the stateside station during the night. I expect to be back
on 500kHz WSPR again on Tuesday evening.

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/10/18 Richard Newstead <g3cwi@btconnect.com>

> Roger Lapthorn wrote:
>
>> Just seen Rik's decode and now this!!!!!
>>
>>  2009-10-17 19:14        G3XBM           0.503936        -26     0
>> JO02dg   0.001           GM4SLV          IP90gg          896     354
>>
>> This is staggering!!!
>>
>>
>>
> Hi Roger et al
>
> Pleased to detect you last night. Good propagation to the US as well
> apparently. W17XSH heard for long periods.
>
> My first try with WSPR.
>
> 73
>
> Richard
> G3CWI
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Thanks for the reports Richard. You did very well for your first try with=
 WSPR and hearing the stateside station during the night. I expect to be=
 back on 500kHz WSPR again on Tuesday evening.=A0 <br><br>73s<br>Roger G3X=
BM<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/18 Richard Newstead <span dir=3D"lt=
r">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:g3cwi@btconnect.com">g3cwi@btconnect.com</a>&gt;<=
/span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px soli=
d rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class=3D"im">Roger Lapthorn wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Just seen Rik&#39;s decode and now this!!!!!<br>
<br>
=A02009-10-17 19:14 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0G3XBM =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 0.503936 =A0=
 =A0 =A0 =A0-26 =A0 =A0 0 =A0 =A0 =A0 JO02dg =A0=A00.001 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=
 =A0 GM4SLV =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0IP90gg =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0896 =A0 =A0 354=
 <br>
<br>
This is staggering!!!<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div>
Hi Roger et al<br>
<br>
Pleased to detect you last night. Good propagation to the US as well appar=
ently. W17XSH heard for long periods.<br>
<br>
My first try with WSPR.<br>
<br>
73<br>
<br>
Richard<br>
G3CWI<br>
<br>
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Andrey,
    Thanks for the capture!

-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1



2009/10/7 Andrey rn3agc <rn3agc@mail.ru>:
> Hello Warren, Henny, LF
> capture at ~02.30z
>
> 73
> Andrey RN3AGC / KO85sv
>
>
>> Hello Warren,LF
>> Capture XGJ
>> Henny cpm
>> best 73s
>> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden
>> verzonden:
>> XGJ 07-10.jpg


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Ah Warren you mis-interpreted that picture!! it was a Reliant Robin fitted
to the base of a 160m whip :-))

Alan G3NYK

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Many years ago there was a picture in QST of a Robin Reliant fitted
for 160 meter mobile operation with a large antenna - very comical!
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73 Warren K2ORS
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On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 6:11 PM, John RABSON <john.rabson@numeo.fr> wrote:
> On 23/10/2009 at 21:54 Graham wrote:
>
>>> *** 'crazy'? That's nothing. According to UK automobile regulations,
>>the
>>> Reliant Robin (a 3-wheeled vehicle with a fully enclosed fibreglass
>>body)
>>> is a motorcycle
>
> I should have put motor tricycle.
>
>>Oh no its not ... Its a motorcycle combination .. ie motorcycle with
>>a side car .and has 3 wheels ... with only one driven . just happens
>
> According to the registration documents for my Reliants, they were motor
tricycles. A motorcycle combination would have been a motor bicycle with
sidecar.
>
> John F5VLF
>
>
>
>



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Gary - G4WGT wrote:
> Hi Tim,
>
> Point the cursor at the right side of the Argo display & click the 
> right mouse button.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
> 2009/10/3 tim hague <m0afj@dsl.pipex.com <mailto:m0afj@dsl.pipex.com>>
>
>     I'm trying to set up Argo, I can get copy on the vertical
>     waterfall but not the horizontal, any tips chaps?
>
>     Tim M0AFJ
>
>
Thanks Gary, all working fine now, got good copy of Mal. I had the wrong 
frequency set on the RH slider..
Is there a set frequency for QRS?, is it worth leaving the Rx on overnight?


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GM Laurence
I passed this evening "BOJ" on the frequency 137776.12hz in qrss 60=20
 I started transmission at 18h you Finally just to finish at 10.40 you=
 ... this is my transmission on the grabber of RN3AGC ...=20
Claude F8boj JN16WA .....

.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  =20
  Got this just before dawn - wasnt looking at 137 overnight but switc=
hed pre dawn here in China.=20
  =20
  Dcf39/Mag are way over S9 on a quiet band so I would expect to see=
 Eu sigs with 1W ERP or around on a good day. Looks like another at 77=
7.9 too but very weak.
  =20
  ps also saw some UNID traces on 503.6khz qrss3 but 500 wasnt so good=
 here as 137kHz
  =20
  Laurence KL1 X in BY3A OM89UA China
  R75 Probe at 80 ft or so.
  =20
  ps time on trace in GMT  was at end point not when sig seen.
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  <A title=3Dhellozerohellozero@hotmail.com     href=3D"mailto:helloze=
rohellozero@hotmail.com">Laurence BY3A-KL1X China</A>=20
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f_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 12, 200=
9 12:43=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: 137.7761 and a=
 bit</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>&nbsp;<BR>Got this just before dawn - wasnt looking=
 at 137=20
  overnight but switched pre&nbsp;dawn here in China. <BR>&nbsp;<BR>Dc=
f39/Mag=20
  are way over S9 on a quiet band so I would expect to see Eu sigs wit=
h 1W ERP=20
  or around on a good day. Looks like another at 777.9 too but very=20
  weak.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>ps also saw some UNID traces on 503.6khz qrss3 bu=
t 500=20
  wasnt so good here as 137kHz<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Laurence KL1 X in BY3A OM8=
9UA=20
  China<BR>R75 Probe at 80 ft or so.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>ps time on trace in=
 GMT=20
  &nbsp;was at end point not when sig seen.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR><BR=
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Over the past days I monitored the G4JNT WSPR beacon 24/24.
During daytime I have a weak but consistent copy of Andy's signal, 
average -24dB with ups and down of some dB.
During nighttime the signal is -10dB on average, with the usual deep 
QSB (peaking -1dB, dips down to -20dB).
But the most interesting observation is that in the afternoon the 
first peaks (from -24dB up to -8dB) occur as early as 15:45 UTC.
This is almost 1 hour before sunset (16:37 UTC) and almost 1.5 hours 
before the D-layer (at mid point) goes into darkness.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T



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http://www.qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html
visible, little audible 315

http://rn3agc.msk.ru/grabber1.shtml
visible, audible 579

> Hi Niels!
> looking 502.0 grabbers started ON.
> PSE QRSS-3 if possible.
> RN3AGC copy you 569
> Inaudible into my location.


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On 6 Oct 2009 at 14:17, Roman RW3ADB wrote:

> G'day Steve.
> 
> * VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra.com> [Tue, 6 Oct 2009 19:15:34 +1100]:
> > G'day All,
> >
> > I had a look at the RW3ADB grabber and I see exactly the same
> > characteristic
> > signal here in VK-land on 499,993 Hz.    Can't think what it might be.
> >
> > Sometimes it looks like one or two second dots and sometimes it looks
> > continuous.
> >
> > Attached are two comparisons.
> >
> > Any clues ?
> 
> 
> Two variants Steve:
> 1) Russian Army use an IF 500Kc. May be a heterodynes signals. But how
> is rx'd in AU? ) 2) Pulse-Power converters.

Or more likely the 32nd harmonic of the 15.625kHz TV line ocillator 
rate. UK, UA and VK all use the 625 line PAL standard (though parts of 
USSR are Secam). The line rate is actually locked to the  colour 
subcarrier of 4.43361875 MHz which may account for the 7Hz shift at 
500kHz.

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com



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Hi henny ,

Very strange ! nothing here on my grabber last night ?

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> Thi is the capture of 16-10 Warren,LF
> 73s
> henny cpm
> ----- Original Message -----=20
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>
>
> Hello Warren,LF,
> Nice capture XGJ
> Henny pa3cpm
> best 73s
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Having been away on holiday for a couple of weeks without internet
connection I missed this thread until today.

My views on WSPR are simple.

   - It is (will be) enormously helpful when analysing LF antennas/station
   improvements.
   - It is very useful for indicating propagation changes and on higher
   bands like 10/6m can show openings that might otherwise be missed. I have
   already seen 10m signals at 3am for example.
   - It allows QRPp signals like mine to be detected on LF, HF and VHF
   bands, although I agree other weak signal modes may be as good (but may lack
   the internet database feedback element which is the REAL killer application
   for me).
   - The on-line database is very helpful in getting almost real time
   feedback and indications of your station's coverage.
   - It is not a replacement for QSO modes, but is an extremely powerful
   beaconing tool.

*BTW, I hope to start on my improvements to my basic 500kHz station in the
next few weeks so would appreciate 500kHz WSPR reports again once my signal
reappears. *Once my signal gets to a decent level I am looking forward to
some CW contacts as well.

73s
Roger

-------------------------------------------------------------
http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088

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Having been away on holiday for a couple of weeks without internet connect=
ion I missed this thread until today. <br><br>My views on WSPR are simple.=
<br><ul><li>It is (will be) enormously helpful when analysing LF antennas/=
station improvements. <br>
</li><li>It is very useful for indicating propagation changes and on highe=
r bands like 10/6m can show openings that might otherwise be missed. I hav=
e already seen 10m signals at 3am for example.<br></li><li>It allows QRPp=
 signals like mine to be detected on LF, HF and VHF bands, although I agre=
e other weak signal modes may be as good (but may lack the internet databa=
se feedback element which is the REAL killer application for me).<br>
</li><li>The on-line database is very helpful in getting almost real time=
 feedback and indications of your station&#39;s coverage.<br></li><li>It=
 is not a replacement for QSO modes, but is an extremely powerful beaconin=
g tool.</li>
</ul><b>BTW, I hope to start on my improvements to my basic 500kHz station=
 in the next few weeks so would appreciate 500kHz WSPR reports again once=
 my signal reappears. </b>Once my signal gets to a decent level I am looki=
ng forward to some CW contacts as well. <br>
<br>73s<br>Roger<br><br>--------------------------------------------------=
-----------<br><a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp=
.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.=
co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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Hi Roman, LF,

The signal you have seen on 507.4kHz is the CW & SSB beacon of Gus, SM6BHZ.

The SSB is often readable here when he operates the beacon on that
frequency. Gus alternates the beacon with his operations on WSPR on
503.925kHz.

73

Gary - G4WGT.

2009/10/23 Roman RW3ADB <rw3adb@rambler.ru>

> Hello Garry, LF!
>
> What's a signal on the 507.4 kHz visible onto G4WGT grabber at moment?
>
> --
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Hi Roman, LF,<div><br></div><div>The signal you have seen on 507.4kHz is=
 the CW &amp; SSB beacon of Gus, SM6BHZ.</div><div><br></div><div>The SSB=
 is often readable here when he operates the beacon on that frequency. Gus=
 alternates the beacon with his operations on WSPR on 503.925kHz.</div>
<div><br></div><div>73</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT.<br><br><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/23 Roman RW3ADB <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:rw3adb@rambler.ru">rw3adb@rambler.ru</a>&gt;</span><br><block=
quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #cc=
c solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Hello Garry, LF!<br>
<br>
What&#39;s a signal on the 507.4 kHz visible onto G4WGT grabber at moment?=
<br>
<br>
--<br><font color=3D"#888888">
Roman RW3ADB.<br>
<br>
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Hello Warren, Henny, LF
capture at ~02.30z

73
Andrey RN3AGC / KO85sv


> Hello Warren,LF
> Capture XGJ
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Dear Paul-Hendrik,

thank You for your explanations concerning this "two-mode" X-band-QSO.
We own just one rather old GSM unit which we are using very seldom, so I
must confess that I would not have been prepared properly for such a
QSO. I have already had an X-band-QSO 500 kHz / 3533 kHz with Finbar
under GI4DPE on November 11th, 2007 under better propagation conditions.
At our latitude full darkness will not come before 17.00 UTC in these
days, this will be earlier within the next few months.

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB


"Paul-Henrik" <phl@netikka.fi> schrieb:
> Hello Ha-Jo, LF
> 
> Finbar and me had a "X-band" QSO, EI->OH on 501.9kHz while OH->EI was bridged
> with the aid of SMS-messages :) . I had no TX capability on 80m last night as
> my inverted-L antenna was set up for wideband RX. I also had Finbar QSP my
> "live" SMS-reports to other stations he worked 500/500. This is the reason my
> call was mentioned quite a few times on 501.9 last night.
> 
> Have to keep the spirit alive on this band somehow while the authorities here
> keep on refusing amateur / experimantal access for unmentionable reasons that
> are hard to accept.
> 
> 73
> 
> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
> Vaasa / KP03SD
> 
> Quoting hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de:
> 
> > Dear all,
> >
> > G3LDO could be heard again 559 in QRSS on 501,1 kHz around 21.15 UTC,
> > October 9th, in
> > eastern Bavaria, JN68GN.
> >
> > Even more interesting was the CW signal of EI0CF, RST 579, from 21.17
> > until 21.50
> > UTC. At first he was in QSO on 501,9 kHz (obviously with Louis,
> > PA0LCE?). Then he heard G3XIZ and they moved to 503 kHz. G3XIZ could be
> > "estimated" too for a while, but readibility remainded very poor.
> >
> > PA0LCE could not be heard. OH1LSQ (?) was also mentioned in this CW
> > traffic. Sometimes reading of the CW signals was rather difficult due to
> > very short qsb, swallowing several letters of a word, even within the
> > usually rather strong transmission of EI0CF. But in general it was very
> > interesting to listen.
> >
> > Hope condx down to Bavaria improve during the winter months.
> >
> > 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
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> 



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Over the last couple of weeks have heard a very weak CW signal at 508kHz 
beaconing BL. Tonight it was a bit stronger and I copied IBL.
I am now making a test QRSS transmission on 501.05kHz

Peter, G3LDO


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Hello LF group!
Back on the band after a pause I last evening made a short=20
cw call on 500 kHz resulting in a solid-copy qso with=20
Mal, G3KEV. Several reports appeared on the reflector and
I do appreciate the swift responses. Thank you all.
My tx is now running about 550 Watts resulting in an=20
antenna current of 6.4 Amps which brings the resistive=20
component of my antenna impedance astonishing close to
the figure of 3.5 Ohm which I remember was a requirement
in the old days when I worked with the design of marine
radio equipment! As far as ERP is regarded I reckon I am
fairly close to the power limit of 13 dBW I was granted.
Trying to be active in the evenings after 19 UTC for cw-contacts.=20
Sorry at the present not to be able to make cross-band qsos as
I have got one transmitting antenna only. However looking=20
for a solution.
73
OZ8NJ  Niels+

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello LF group!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Back on the band after a pause I last=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mal, G3KEV.&nbsp;Several reports appe=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I&nbsp;do appreciate the swift respon=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My tx is now running about 550 Watts=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>antenna current of 6.4 Amps which bri=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>component of my antenna impedance ast=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the figure of 3.5 Ohm which I remembe=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>in the old days when I worked with th=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have got one transmitting antenna=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>for a solution.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73</FONT></DIV>
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Hi Horst, Jim, LF,
Same here, I have used a PA0RDT Mini-Whip active antenna for a good while
now & it's performance is very good right down to 10kHz, may even go lower
if I knew what to look for !!!

My online grabbers use the Mini-Whip antenna.

73,

Gary - G4WGT.

2009/10/21 James Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.net>

> Hi Horst
>
> I've just installed one of Roelof Bakker's (PA0RDT) active mini whips an=
d
> it
> is excellent at my QTH.  Just my view, others may have different
> experiences
>
> With best regards
>
>
> Jim
>
>
> Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Horst St=F6cker
> Sent: 21 October 2009 17:26
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: Best receiving antenna wanted
>
> Hello,
> now that I am happy with my selectiv level meter Praecitronic MV-62 I am
> looking for the best receicing antenna.
> Especially I am interested in 400khz, 136kHz, 72kHz and below 22 kHz. Wi=
th
> my 40m longwire reception is not good enough and with a frame antenna of
> 900m copper wire it was disappointing, too..
> I think, an active antenna for 0 to 500 MHz would be the best for me -=
 but
> I
> am looking forward to any other idea.
> vy73 Horst DO1KHS
> _______________________________________________________________
> Neu: WEB.DE DSL bis 50.000 kBit/s und 200,- Euro Startguthaben!
> http://produkte.web.de/go/02/
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Hi Horst, Jim, LF,<div><br></div><div>Same here, I have used a PA0RDT Mini=
-Whip active antenna for a good while now &amp; it&#39;s performance is ve=
ry good right down to 10kHz, may even go lower if I knew what to look for=
 !!!</div>
<div><br></div><div>My online grabbers use the Mini-Whip antenna.</div><di=
v><br></div><div>73,</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT.<br><br><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/21 James Cowburn <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:james.cowburn@virgin.net">james.cowburn@virgin.net</a>&gt;</spa=
n><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Hi Horst<br>
<br>
I&#39;ve just installed one of Roelof Bakker&#39;s (PA0RDT) active mini wh=
ips and it<br>
is excellent at my QTH. =A0Just my view, others may have different experie=
nces<br>
<br>
With best regards<br>
<br>
<br>
Jim<br>
<br>
<br>
Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS<br>
<br>
<br>
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group@blacksheep.org</a><br>
[mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">owner-rsgb_l=
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Subject: LF: Best receiving antenna wanted<br>
<br>
Hello,<br>
now that I am happy with my selectiv level meter Praecitronic MV-62 I am<b=
r>
looking for the best receicing antenna.<br>
Especially I am interested in 400khz, 136kHz, 72kHz and below 22 kHz. With=
<br>
my 40m longwire reception is not good enough and with a frame antenna of<b=
r>
900m copper wire it was disappointing, too..<br>
I think, an active antenna for 0 to 500 MHz would be the best for me - but=
 I<br>
am looking forward to any other idea.<br>
vy73 Horst DO1KHS<br>
_______________________________________________________________<br>
Neu: <a href=3D"http://WEB.DE" target=3D"_blank">WEB.DE</a> DSL bis 50.000=
 kBit/s und 200,- Euro Startguthaben!<br>
<a href=3D"http://produkte.web.de/go/02/" target=3D"_blank">http://produkt=
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<br>
<br>
<br>
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Sorry to the list,wrong recipient.

73
Clemens
DL4RAJ
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  Hallo Werner,

  EI0CF ist hier auch sehr gut zu hören,ruft jetzt gerade CQ.
  Die K9 ist wesentlich besser im SNR als der Dipol,etwa so 6dB.

  73
  Clemens
  DL4RAJ
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    Hello Finbar!
    I listen to your regular CW signal on 501.055kHz. You have got a contact with VX9MRC. Your 
signal is FB 589!

    Lubos, OK2BVG


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Peter,=20
=20
As an interested observer from the other side of the pond, how do you dete=
rmine that you are close to the ERP limit?? I'd be interested in knowing=
 as I am trying to do some pro-bono work for the ARRL on getting use of 13=
7 kHz here in the USA.
=20
Tnx & 73,
=20
David Weinreich=20
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>>>=20

From: Peter Dodd <g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk>
To:<rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Date: 10/07/09 3:09 PM
Subject: LF:  Re Propagation report
Hi Jay,
I will be sending a beacon signal QRSS3 on 501.1kHz until 2330z.
I have modified my old PL519 TV sweep tube transmitter which ran about=20
60 to 70W. It now has two PL519s in parallel running 120W.
I have taken down the HF quad until the sunspots wake up a bit and=20
reinstalled the antenna used for 73/136kHz so I am now running close to=20
the new ERP limit.


Peter, G3LDO


> Mal
>
> I check your frequency. Sunset here isn't until 2230Z...what time do=20
> you QRT?
>
> How about a beacon signal? ;~)
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net=
>
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> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 11:34 AM
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>
>
>> Warren
>> Great propagation around EU and Russia at present on 500. I have been=
=20
>> copied in Russia and eastern EU while daylight here, also 160m is=20
>> good with daytime reception and QSO'S as far as the Moscow area
>> Probably good to the west but not sure if anyone is monitoring in the=
=20
>> USA during evening time here.
>> 73 de mal/g3kev
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
>> To: "rsgb_lf_group" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 4:18 PM
>> Subject: LF: Propagation report
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>>
>>> I have noted that Alan Melia has not updated his propagation  report
>>> since the 7th of July!
>>> Hope all is well with Alan!
>>>
>>>
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>>> 73 Warren K2ORS
>>>                WD2XGJ
>>>                WD2XSH/23
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<TD>LF:&nbsp; Re Propagation report</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Hi Jay,<BR>I=
 will be sending a beacon signal QRSS3 on 501.1kHz until 2330z.<BR>I have=
 modified my old PL519 TV sweep tube transmitter which ran about <BR>60 to=
 70W. It now has two PL519s in parallel running 120W.<BR>I have taken down=
 the HF quad until the sunspots wake up a bit and <BR>reinstalled the ante=
nna used for 73/136kHz so I am now running close to <BR>the new ERP limit.=
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nt on 500. I have been <BR>&gt;&gt; copied in Russia and eastern EU while=
 daylight here, also 160m is <BR>&gt;&gt; good with daytime reception and=
 QSO'S as far as the Moscow area<BR>&gt;&gt; Probably good to the west but=
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Salut Jeff thanx for this new QSO with you.
 
 
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What would be a good FREQ for reception on 500?
We could try earlier in the day
de mal/g3kev

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Mal,
> If here there was no this svc-station, your qrss3-signal would be visible 
> also in the afternoon :)
> For certain.
>
> 73 Andrey
>
>>
>> Andrey
>> I can not see any problem my signal is vy clear and strong on ur GRABBER
>> tonite
>> tnx de mal/g3kev
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 7:56 PM
>> Subject: LF: Re: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz
>>
>>
>>> Mal,
>>> Your signal here is almost in the centre of a spectrum of powerful
>>> broadband SVC-station.
>>> It is a pity that you do not have possibility to replace frequency...
>>>
>>> 73 Andrey
>>>
>>>
>>>> Andrey can see my sig solid copy on ur GRABBER
>>>> TNX MAL
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
>>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:36 PM
>>>> Subject: LF: Re: Re: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Mal,
>>>>> I have already switched on the grabber on your frequency.
>>>>> The grabber will work on 500 khz to ~21z....
>>>>>
>>>>> In the night from 1.30 till 2.45 observed someone's wspr-signals on
>>>>> 503850.
>>>>> The signals was not decoded.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73 Andrey
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Andrey
>>>>>> Pse look at 502.57 starting at 1800 utc CW and QRS3
>>>>>> De mal/g3kev
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
>>>>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 6:45 PM
>>>>>> Subject: LF: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello LF'ers,
>>>>>>> QRV RCV today WSPR-beacons on 500 kHz (503850+/-) till the morning.
>>>>>>> Also QRSS3 above frequency 502.350. If someone is going to work in
>>>>>>> QRSS3-mode,
>>>>>>> please inform your frequency.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 73 Andrey
>
>


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Hello Laurence ,
Henny beaconning now on 137775,6
Look at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Laurence BY3A-KL1X China a =E9crit :
> Good morning - what frequency please?
>
> =20
>
> Laurence
> =20
>  =20
>> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:24:01 +0200
>> From: jpm.f1afj@online.fr
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> Subject: Re: LF: "PM K" 30dB over noise on 137
>>
>> Hi John ,
>>
>> Yes it is Henny PA3CPM in beaconning !
>>
>> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
>>
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Richard Newstead wrote:
> Piotr MÅ‚ynarski wrote:
>> Dear Rick, LF group
>> it is my first decode of ur wspr signal 2118 -21  1.4   0.503868  0 
>> OR7T JO20 23
>> 2118 -22  0.8   0.503929  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>> it was also sent  to wspr database
>>
>
> Just downloaded wspr. I have the dial set at 502.4 but nothing is 
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>
Update - working now!


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Am I the only person hearing this station. He is CQ every night but no=
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Surely all Receivers are not DEAF
G3KEV

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  ON4KTJ/Jean active on 500 K/cs band CW. I have worked him twice, thi=
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Hello Graham, LF!
Sorry, but I use my computer together with SDR-IQ as a LF receiver and I=
 haven=B4t got the other PC for decoding THROB packets. But your signal is=
 nice!

Lubos, OK2BVG

From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk
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Subject: Re: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000










Tnx Lubos=20
=20
Are  you  able to  decode any of the =20
signal ???
=20
I use  > http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html
=20
Tnx - Graham ..




From: Lubos OK2BVG=20
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To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20

Subject: RE: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000

Hello Graham, LF!
I see your beacon=B4s packets very=20
well.

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS


From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk
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Date:=20
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Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20



Running  THROB-2-  Beacon  =20
503.000 khz centre  frequency=20
=20
TX set  502.000 USB
Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency=20
=20
Repeat time 60  seconds =20
=20
RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'=20
 time=20
=20
Reports / observations  =20
=20
Tnx  Graham
=20
G0NBD - IO83LK =20




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Hello Graham, LF!<br>Sorry, but I use my computer together with SDR-IQ as=
 a LF receiver and I haven=B4t got the other PC for decoding THROB packets=
. But your signal is nice!<br><br>Lubos, OK2BVG<br><br><hr id=3D"stopSpell=
ing">From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk<br>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>=
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:34:27 +0000<br>Subject: Re: LF: Throb -2- beacon=
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<div><font face=3D"Arial">Tnx Lubos </font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial">Are&nbsp; you&nbsp; able to&nbsp; decode any of=
 the&nbsp;=20
signal ???</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial">I use&nbsp; &gt; <a href=3D"http://www.w1hkj.com=
/Fldigi.html">http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html</a></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial">Tnx - Graham ..</font></div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Tahoma; font-style: normal; font-variant: norma=
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<div style=3D""><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"mailto:bvgbob@hotmail.com  CTRL=
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<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:05 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org  CTRL + Cl=
ick to follow link" href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_g=
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<div><b>Subject:</b> RE: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000</div></div></div>
<div><br></div>Hello Graham, LF!<br>I see your beacon=B4s packets very=20
well.<br><br>73!<br><br>Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<br>
<hr id=3D"ecxstopSpelling">
From: <a href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk</=
a><br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@bl=
acksheep.org</a><br>Date:=20
Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:28:12 +0000<br>Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=
=20
<br><br>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Running&nbsp; THROB-2-&nbsp; Beacon&n=
bsp;&nbsp;=20
503.000 khz centre&nbsp; frequency </font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">TX set&nbsp; 502.000 USB</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Audio&nbsp; 1000 Hz cent frequency </=
font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Repeat time 60&nbsp; seconds&nbsp; </=
font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">RX&nbsp; 'ON'&nbsp; during cycle tx=
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&nbsp;time </font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Reports / observations&nbsp;&nbsp; </=
font></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Tnx&nbsp; Graham</font></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">G0NBD - IO83LK </font>&nbsp;</div><br=
><br><br>
<hr>
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://windows.microsoft.com/shop">Dal=B9=ED informace.</a>=20

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Good folks,

Some advice please. I am about to organise some keyer ICs for beaconing in
QRSS on 500kHz and 136kHz. Is there a standard message format used for QRSS
beaconing?

I was proposing to use *G3XBM JO02DG* or just *G3XBM* . Is this OK?

73s
Roger G3XBM



-- 
-------------------------------------------------------------
http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088

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Good folks,<br><br>Some advice please. I am about to organise some keyer=
 ICs for beaconing in QRSS on 500kHz and 136kHz. Is there a standard messa=
ge format used for QRSS beaconing? <br><br>I was proposing to use <b>G3XBM=
 JO02DG</b> or just <b>G3XBM</b> . Is this OK?<br>
<br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>---------------=
----------------------------------------------<br><a href=3D"http://g3xbm-=
qrp.blogspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http:/=
/www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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Hello Rik, LF!

This shows great similarities to some studies and tests I did together wit=
h
GM4SLV (Shetland Islands) and GI4DPE (Derry, NI) around the same time of=
 year
during the past years.

We called this phenomenon "early propagation". It usually started with wea=
k
fluttery signals that grew rapidly. Peak signals were very strong consider=
ing
mid-path was still well in daylight. After a period of good "early propaga=
tion"
signals generally became very unstable and weaker, often disappeared compl=
etely
until "normal" propagation in darkness took over.

This happened almost as a rule over the path Shetland - Vaasa (1100kms),=
 but not
Derry - Vaasa (1800kms). Derry - Vaasa came alive only after midpath darkn=
ess.

This was before the introduction of WSPR using normal CW-beaconing so abso=
lute
signals levels are unknown. Tests were mostly conducted as "skeds" and
sometimes I ran a mp3-server with my receiver audio on the www so that the
transmitting parties could monitor their own signals almost in real-time=
 (delay
of 5-10 seconds) while the receiving station was unattended.

Thanks for sharing your findings on this phenomenon, very interesting with=
 more
new input.

BR

Paul-Henrik, OH1LSQ

Quoting Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>:

> Over the past days I monitored the G4JNT WSPR beacon 24/24.
> During daytime I have a weak but consistent copy of Andy's signal,
> average -24dB with ups and down of some dB.
> During nighttime the signal is -10dB on average, with the usual deep
> QSB (peaking -1dB, dips down to -20dB).
> But the most interesting observation is that in the afternoon the
> first peaks (from -24dB up to -8dB) occur as early as 15:45 UTC.
> This is almost 1 hour before sunset (16:37 UTC) and almost 1.5 hours
> before the D-layer (at mid point) goes into darkness.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
>
>




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Please help, Graham - what is THROB-2?
73
Walter DJ2LF / DI2AG

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:28 PM
  Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


  Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency=20
  =20
  TX set  502.000 USB
  Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency=20
  =20
  Repeat time 60  seconds =20
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  Reports / observations  =20

  Tnx  Graham

  G0NBD - IO83LK =20



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Please help, Graham - what is THROB-2=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Running&nbsp; THROB-2-&nbsp; Beacon=
&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  503.000 khz centre&nbsp; frequency </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>TX set&nbsp; 502.000 USB</FONT></DI=
V>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Audio&nbsp; 1000 Hz cent frequency=
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  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tnx&nbsp; Graham</FONT></DIV>
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Hello Andrey , Henny , John ,

Hello Andrey, Henny, John,

Andrey , I think qe it is well that ! but its signal was very strong ,=20
because my antenna was on the other hand (qtf 295=B0)

73 f1afj


Andrey rn3agc a =E9crit :
> Henny, John, Jean-Pierre,
> Possibly, it OE5ODL...
> OE5ODL at 00.35 (my capture, 3s-window):=20
> http://rn3agc.msk.ru/136-3/0910270034-oe5odl-3.jpg
> Signal in 3s (my capture):=20
> http://rn3agc.msk.ru/filez/091027-signal-rn3agc.jpg
> On capture it is possible to read a callsign (capture from Henny):=20
> http://rn3agc.msk.ru/filez/091027-signal-pa3cpm.jpg
>
> 73 Andrey
>
>
>> Hello J-P,John,Andrey,
>> also here the big signal,
>> best 73s
>> henny pa3cpm
>> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden=20
>> verzonden:
>> strange big signal 27-10.jpg
>>
>> Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen=20
>> virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen=20
>> niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u=
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>> wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.
>>
>
>
>
>

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On 17 Oct 2009 at 15:02, G3XBM wrote:

> Got some IRF510 FETs from Graham G3MFJ's club sales, so I've increased
> my 500kHz ERP by around 10dB to around 60uW (microwatts). Already G7NKS
> is spotting me 10dB stronger than ever before, which is an excellent
> sign. 
> 
> All being well, the WSPR beacon will run overnight tonight and all
> reports would be much appreciated.

153000  15  10  2.6   -62  0  G4JNT IO90 23         
153000   8 -20  5.2     8  1  G3XBM JO02 0  

Wow, only 30dB down on G4JNT! Well done Roger.

(sorry cannot upload as I am copying with WSJT7 which doesn't support 
the internet upload - but has an auto soundcard calibrator).

73 Dave G3YMC
IO91PJ

http://www.davesergeant.com


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                  <p>On 17 Oct 2009 at 15:02, G3XBM wrote:<br>
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&gt; Got some IRF510 FETs from Graham G3MFJ's club sales, so I've increased<br>
&gt; my 500kHz ERP by around 10dB to around 60uW (microwatts)<wbr>. Already G7NKS<br>
&gt; is spotting me 10dB stronger than ever before, which is an excellent<br>
&gt; sign. <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; All being well, the WSPR beacon will run overnight tonight and all<br>
&gt; reports would be much appreciated.<br>
<br>
153000  15  10  2.6   -62  0  G4JNT IO90 23         <br>
153000   8 -20  5.2     8  1  G3XBM JO02 0  <br>
<br>
Wow, only 30dB down on G4JNT! Well done Roger.<br>
<br>
(sorry cannot upload as I am copying with WSJT7 which doesn't support <br>
the internet upload - but has an auto soundcard calibrator).<br>
<br>
73 Dave G3YMC<br>
IO91PJ<br>
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Mal 

U were 577 here in Broom.  I could copy you clearly transmitting QSK CQ
G3KEV around 502.5 at 18.15.

 

I can also hear you on QRS3 at 19.45

 

I did try to reply but no copy obviously

 

Best 73s

 

 

 

Jim G7NKS   IO92ub

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Subject: LF: G3KEV QRV 500

 

Nw qrv 502.57 CW and QRS3 as appropriate for QSO also QSX 7033 for DX QSO's

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
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Is it a "CON dx" though?

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

 

  _____  

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Subject: LF: MF CONDX

 

MF condx excellent tonite, just worked JA7NI on 1820 Khz CW his sig 599.

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John P-G wrote:
> LF,
>
> Not sure if this is a first for me, but I'm happy nonetheless:
>
> 2009-10-17 22:16 W17XSH 0.503930 -27 0 FN42pb 5 GM4SLV IP90gg 4958
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
> GM4SLV
>
>
Nice one!

Not sure why mine was not working but it seems fine now.

73

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G3CWI

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Hi Roelof,
Yes, the website http://www.blitzortung.org/Webpages/index.php
certainly does give us a very wide coverage. The site is now in my
favourites.

73

Gary - G4WGT.
<http://www.blitzortung.org/Webpages/index.php>

2009/10/8 Roelof Bakker <roelof@ndb.demon.nl>

> Hello Gary,
>
> Though this is a nice site for thunderstorm watchers, it does not cover
> the main source of wintertime QRN: the Mediterranean!
>
> And yes at the distance it is still causing a lot of trouble.
>
> 73,
> Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt
>
>
>

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Hi Roelof,<div><br></div><div>Yes, the website=A0<span class=3D"Apple-styl=
e-span" style=3D"font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-c=
ollapse: collapse; "><a href=3D"http://www.blitzortung.org/Webpages/index.=
php" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: rgb(119, 153, 187); ">http://www.bl=
itzortung.org/Webpages/index.php</a></span></div>
<div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><span cla=
ss=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: collapse;">certainly doe=
s give us a very wide coverage. The site is now in my favourites.</span></=
font></div>
<div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><span cla=
ss=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: collapse;"><br></span></=
font></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"arial, sans-serif=
"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: collapse;">73=
</span></font></div>
<div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><span cla=
ss=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: collapse;"><br></span></=
font></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"arial, sans-serif=
"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: collapse;">Ga=
ry - G4WGT.</span></font></div>
<div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 13px; "><a href=
=3D"http://www.blitzortung.org/Webpages/index.php" target=3D"_blank" style=
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n" face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"bo=
rder-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span></font><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/8 Roelof Bakker <span=
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l</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0=
 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Hello Gary,<br>
<br>
Though this is a nice site for thunderstorm watchers, it does not cover<br=
>
the main source of wintertime QRN: the Mediterranean!<br>
<br>
And yes at the distance it is still causing a lot of trouble.<br>
<br>
73,<br>
<font color=3D"#888888">Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt<br>
<br>
<br>
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Chris=20

Had a look around Wikipedia , re  phase , -3 db , margins , that sort=
 of thing ..as for  removing bits ... would not be the  first person=
 to  run into allsorts of  problems getting a  (137k )  amp to  run on=
 500  'with' half the bits chopped out ..and  still  zapp the  out put=
 devices ...  easier to agree with  MAL  =20

(apart from the class  d/e bit that is I think there is still a lot =
 of un-known's /gray noise etc associated with the  concept .. article=
s like this  seem to address the  'un spoken' >  http://www.qsl.net/wm=
5z/qex199907.pdf < the subject of heat dissipation in magnetic's hover=
s in the background as well for these amplifiers)=20

G ..=20


From: Chris=20
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 2:13 PM
To: RSGB LF Group=20
Subject: LF: AF Amps at 136


Hi All,
Just started constructing TX for 136kHz, noticed Maplin do a Velleman=
 audio PA kit that is rated at 200W (100W RMS into 4R). OK there's no=
 mains transformer or heat sink, but reckon it's good value at =A314.9=
9. Point is the specs also say the minus 3db frequency response is 3Hz=
 / 200kHz.
The RSGB books 'LF Today' refer to using audio amps as PAs at 136 with=
 'a few modifications'. Does anybody know where these modifications ar=
e documented? I guess there's nothing major, reduce a few cap values?=
 Remove Zobel Network etc.?? If anyone has experience with this approa=
ch I would appreciate some hints. Thanks.
Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable.


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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Chris </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Had a look around Wikipedia , re&nbsp=
; phase&nbsp;,=20
-3 db , margins , that sort of thing ..as for&nbsp; removing bits ...&=
nbsp;would=20
not be the&nbsp; first person to &nbsp;run into allsorts of&nbsp; prob=
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getting a&nbsp; (137k ) &nbsp;amp to&nbsp; run on 500&nbsp; 'with' hal=
f the bits=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>(apart from the class&nbsp; d/e bit=
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there is still a lot&nbsp; of un-known's /gray noise&nbsp;etc associat=
ed with=20
the&nbsp; concept .. articles like this&nbsp; seem to address the&nbsp=
; 'un=20
spoken' &gt; &nbsp;<A   href=3D"http://www.qsl.net/wm5z/qex199907.pdf"=
>http://www.qsl.net/wm5z/qex199907.pdf</A>&nbsp;&lt;=20
the subject of heat dissipation in magnetic's hovers in the background=
 as well=20
for these amplifiers) </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G .. </FONT></DIV>
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to:c.ashby435@btinternet.com">Chris</A> </DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: AF Amps at 136</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Hi All,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Just started constructing TX for 136k=
Hz, noticed=20
Maplin do a Velleman audio PA kit that is rated at 200W (100W RMS into=
 4R). OK=20
there's no mains transformer or heat sink, but reckon it's good value=
 at =A314.99.=20
Point is the specs also say the minus 3db&nbsp;frequency response is=
 3Hz&nbsp;/=20
200kHz.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>The RSGB books 'LF Today' refer to us=
ing audio amps=20
as PAs at 136 with 'a few modifications'. Does anybody know where thes=
e=20
modifications are documented? I guess there's nothing major, reduce a=
 few cap=20
values? Remove Zobel Network etc.?? If anyone has experience with this=
 approach=20
I would appreciate some hints. Thanks.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable.</FONT></DIV=
>
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Hi Jay,
I will be sending a beacon signal QRSS3 on 501.1kHz until 2330z.
I have modified my old PL519 TV sweep tube transmitter which ran about 
60 to 70W. It now has two PL519s in parallel running 120W.
I have taken down the HF quad until the sunspots wake up a bit and 
reinstalled the antenna used for 73/136kHz so I am now running close to 
the new ERP limit.


Peter, G3LDO


> Mal
>
> I check your frequency. Sunset here isn't until 2230Z...what time do 
> you QRT?
>
> How about a beacon signal? ;~)
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
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>
>> Warren
>> Great propagation around EU and Russia at present on 500. I have been 
>> copied in Russia and eastern EU while daylight here, also 160m is 
>> good with daytime reception and QSO'S as far as the Moscow area
>> Probably good to the west but not sure if anyone is monitoring in the 
>> USA during evening time here.
>> 73 de mal/g3kev
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
>> To: "rsgb_lf_group" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 4:18 PM
>> Subject: LF: Propagation report
>>
>>
>>> I have noted that Alan Melia has not updated his propagation  report
>>> since the 7th of July!
>>> Hope all is well with Alan!
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> 73 Warren K2ORS
>>>                WD2XGJ
>>>                WD2XSH/23
>>>                WE2XEB/2
>>>                WE2XGR/1
>>>
>>
>>
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Hello Warren,LF,
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Hi Mal!
Not a lot of antennas owners are the same to you.
30m high vert impossible to many ops.
40m sloper is a crystal dream to many hams in Moscow now for example.

* mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> [Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:17:46 
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> Most GRABBERS are not available most of the time, either switched off 
or
> have poor antennas lacking sensitivity.  Not reliable.
> I often hear signals which do not appear on the GRABBERS.
> G3KEV




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Hi LF,
Capture WHO ?
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
CAPTURE WHO 02-10.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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Hi Steve,
Although I have not been uploading captures today until now (1348utc) there
is no problem with my site, it has been displaying a message "Grabber
Temporary Off Line" as I do my PC maintenance on a Monday (hard disk
backup's etc).

You will find that some (maybe most) of the other grabbers are random but
mine is 24/7.

Here is the url again just in case :-

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html

<http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html>73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.

2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra.com>

>  G'day Gary,
>
> There currently seems to be a rend in the time-space continuum here down
> under in VK-land....
>
> Apart from your site - for which I get a "can't connect".
>
> From the links on the Google site I get the following results.
>
> 1. GM4SLV - last grab Jan 2009.
> 2. CT1DRP - last grab Nov 2008.
> 3. Hartmut Wolff - last grab Nov 2008.
> 4. GM4ISM - can't connect.
> 5. DF6NM - last grab May 2008.
> 6. RN3AGC - can't connect.
>
> The only one that works is the http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/ link.
>
> What am I missing ?
>
> 73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> *Sent:* Monday, October 05, 2009 8:28 PM
> *Subject:* Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers....
>
> Hi Steve,
> A small list of grabbers on the UK500KHZ Group web site at :-
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers
>
> Also my own grabber page for the UK, EU & USA bands at :-
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.
>
>  <http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers>
>
> 2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra.com>
>
>> G'day All,
>>
>> In an expression of extreme optimism I am interested in getting details of
>> 500kc beacons (preferably QRSS30 and slower) in Europe.    To get real-time
>> confirmation of on-air status I am also looking for relevant local grabbers
>> for those beacons.
>>
>> 73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)
>>
>>
>

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Hi Steve,<div><br></div><div>Although I have not been uploading captures=
 today until now (1348utc) there is no problem with my site, it has been=
 displaying a message &quot;Grabber Temporary Off Line&quot; as I do my PC=
 maintenance on a Monday (hard disk backup&#39;s etc).</div>
<div><br></div><div>You will find that some (maybe most) of the other grab=
bers are random but mine is 24/7.</div><div><br></div><div>Here is the url=
 again just in case :-</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://myweb.ti=
scali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html">http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/gr=
abber2.html</a></div>
<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber=
2.html"></a>73</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.<br><br><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:vk2zto@djirra.com">vk2zto@djirra.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">





<div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">G&#39;day Gary,</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">There currently seems to be a rend in=
 the=20
time-space continuum here down under in VK-land....</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Apart from your site - for which I ge=
t a &quot;can&#39;t=20
connect&quot;.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">From the links on=A0the Google site=
 I get the=20
following results.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">1. GM4SLV - last grab Jan 2009.</font=
></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">2. CT1DRP - last grab Nov 2008.</font=
></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">3. Hartmut Wolff - last grab Nov 2008=
.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">4. GM4ISM - can&#39;t connect.</font>=
</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">5. DF6NM - last grab May 2008.</font>=
</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">6. RN3AGC - can&#39;t connect.</font>=
</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">The only one that works is the <a hre=
f=3D"http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">=
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"Times New Roman">http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/=
</font></a>=A0link.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">What am I missing ?</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)</font></div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-left:#000000 2px solid;padding-left:5px;paddin=
g-right:0px;margin-left:5px;margin-right:0px" dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"im=
">
  <div style=3D"font:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
  <div style=3D"font:10pt arial;background:#e4e4e4"><b>From:</b>=20
  <a title=3D"g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk" href=3D"mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk" tar=
get=3D"_blank">Gary -=20
  G4WGT</a> </div>
  <div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org" href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank"=
>rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>=20
  </div>
  <div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 05, 2009 8:2=
8=20
  PM</div>
  <div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: LF: 500kc beacons and=
=20
  grabbers....</div>
  <div><br></div></div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">Hi Steve,
  <div><br></div>
  <div>A small list of grabbers on the UK500KHZ Group web site at :-</div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div><a href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grab=
bers" target=3D"_blank">http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-kh=
z-grabbers</a></div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div>Also my own grabber page for the UK, EU &amp; USA bands at :-</div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div><a href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html" targe=
t=3D"_blank">http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html</a></div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div>73</div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.</div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div><a href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grab=
bers" target=3D"_blank"></a><br><br>
  <div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:vk2zto@djirra.com" target=3D"_blank">vk2zto@djirra.com</a>&gt;=
</span><br>
  <blockquote style=3D"border-left:#ccc 1px solid;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
;padding-left:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">G&#39;day All,<br><br>In an expre=
ssion of extreme optimism I=20
    am interested in getting details of 500kc beacons (preferably QRSS30=
 and=20
    slower) in Europe. =A0 =A0To get real-time confirmation of on-air=20
    status I am also looking for relevant local grabbers for those=20
    beacons.<br><br>73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)=20
<br><br></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></blockquote></div>
</blockquote></div><br></div>

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Hi Szigy
Glad the card arrived. Tnx qso will look for u agn
de mal/g3kev

----- Original Message ----- 
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> From: YO2IS
>  Pleased to receive today a nice QSL, from G3KEV, Mal,
> confirming our crossband CW QSO 502.5 / 7033 KHz.
> It's a first one for me and a new one for YO ...
>  Will randomly run the YO2X beacon testing the setup.
> QRG 505.763 KHz, 41m sloping wire and abt 100W input
> PIC keyer in QRSS3 and CW id.
>  Some 137.7 KHz activity is also planned depending on
> the level of the urban QRM. Have to test for 137 KHz
> reception, the K9AY loop versus the tunned multiturn-
> loop located under the roof etc.
>  BTW, some days ago got the 'RSGB 136KHz Award' #10
> for 6 confirmed DXCC entities ( 3 on CW, 3 on QRSS3 ).
>  Hope the cold weather will bring more trafic on VLF.
>    73 & DX, Szigy.
>


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Hi Jim, LF,
Copy of message from Lars (below).

73

Gary - G4WGT.

* *

*Grimeton Radio/SAQ transmission CW on VLF 17.2 kHz*

* *

**

**We deeply regret we have to *cancel* the previously announced transmission
on United Nations Day, October 24th 2009.



Next planned transmission will be on Christmas Eve, December 24th
2009, at 08:00
UTC.







Lars

SM6NM



* *

2009/10/21 Roelof Bakker <roelof@ndb.demon.nl>

> Hello Jim,
>
> I have seen a message that this transmission has been cancelled.
> And yes, your mini-whip will do.
>
> I even used it with Johan Bodin's great program directly fed into my
> soundcard.
>
> Best regards,
> Roelof, pa0rdt
>
>

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Hi Jim, LF,<div><br></div><div>Copy of message from Lars (below).</div><di=
v><br></div><div>73</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT.</div><div><br><=
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rder-collapse: collapse; "><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-top: 0cm=
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ont size=3D"3"><strong>=A0</strong></font></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
" style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-=
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<u><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size: 16pt; font-family: &#39;Times=
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m; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; ">
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<u><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size: 16pt; font-family: &#39;Times=
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<u><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size: 16pt; font-family: &#39;Times=
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/u><font size=3D"3"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-weight: normal; fon=
t-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; ">We deeply regret we have to=A0<u>ca=
ncel</u>=A0the previously announced transmission on United Nations Day,=A0=
</span><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-weight: normal; font-family: &#3=
9;Times New Roman&#39;; ">October 24<sup>th</sup>=A02009</span><span lang=
=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-weight: normal; font-family: &#39;Times New Roman=
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yle=3D"font-weight: normal; font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; ">Next=
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GB" style=3D"font-weight: normal; font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;;=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin=
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</span><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/21 Roelof Bakker <span dir=
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ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Hello Jim,<br>
<br>
I have seen a message that this transmission has been cancelled.<br>
And yes, your mini-whip will do.<br>
<br>
I even used it with Johan Bodin&#39;s great program directly fed into my=
 soundcard.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
Roelof, pa0rdt<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br></div>

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Hi Andrey
Pse look at 502.57 starting at 1800 utc CW and QRS3
De mal/g3kev

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> Hello LF'ers,
> QRV RCV today WSPR-beacons on 500 kHz (503850+/-) till the morning.
> Also QRSS3 above frequency 502.350. If someone is going to work in 
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I have noted that Alan Melia has not updated his propagation  report
since the 7th of July!
Hope all is well with Alan!


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My 500kHz QRPp WSPR beacon is active again this evening. It will be off
between 8-9pm as I have a sked on 2m but should be back on again afterwards
and through the night.  As before, all reports welcomed.

PS should be TXing on 500kHz CW within a few days when the full transverter
is finished. I look forward to working Mel G3KEV and Chris G3XIZ (amongst
others) who are both stations I have heard many times.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088

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My 500kHz QRPp WSPR beacon is active again this evening. It will be off be=
tween 8-9pm as I have a sked on 2m but should be back on again afterwards=
 and through the night.=A0 As before, all reports welcomed.<br><br>PS shou=
ld be TXing on 500kHz CW within a few days when the full transverter is fi=
nished. I look forward to working Mel G3KEV and Chris G3XIZ (amongst other=
s) who are both stations I have heard many times.<br>
<br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM <br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>----------------------=
---------------------------------------<br><a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blo=
gspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.g3=
xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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Hi All,
Gary: Could the undecoded signal you saw have been G3XBM, according to=
 me he was on 503933?
WSPR decodes here last night from G3XBM, G4JNT, G7NKS, OR7T and SM6BHZ=
.=20
Horst: Agree with most comments on the PA0DRT active antenna. Mine wor=
ks very well, signal strength is less than my long wire (at 500kHz),=
 but the signal to noise ratio much better. At 136kHz and lower the si=
gnal strength is much better than the (non resonant) long wire. Its pe=
rformance is quite impressive.
Jim: SAQ is usually an excellent fully audible signal here on the PA0D=
RT active antenna.
Vy 73, Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, (JO01MI).

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Hi All,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Gary: Could the undecoded signal you=
 saw have been=20
G3XBM, according to me he was on 503933?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>WSPR&nbsp;decodes here last night fro=
m G3XBM,=20
G4JNT, G7NKS, OR7T and SM6BHZ.&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Horst: Agree with most comments on th=
e PA0DRT=20
active antenna. Mine works very well, signal strength is less than my=
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(at 500kHz), but the signal to noise ratio much better. At 136kHz and=
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signal strength is much better than the (non resonant) long wire. Its=
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Julian Hardstone wrote:
> Perfectly good signal in Stockport, Richard (on a small loop)

Thanks Julian. Short path or long path?

Hope that you are well.

73

Richard
G3CWI



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I'm trying to set up Argo, I can get copy on the vertical waterfall but 
not the horizontal, any tips chaps?

Tim M0AFJ


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Dear Chris, LF Group,

G4AYT wrote:
...> comments referring to a stations ERP by various operators : 'Estimate', 
'Guess', 'Approx.', 'Reckon I'm fairly close to...', 'Approaching' etc. 
Nobody REALLY knows exactly! ...>

This is true of any measurement - nobody can measure ERP or anything else 
"exactly"; the issue is how much uncertainty exists in the measured result.

If you predict ERP based on antenna current and dimensions, my experience is 
that the "real" value from field strength measurements will be lower by 
about 0 - 6dB due to effects of the environment around the antenna. There is 
also the uncertainty in measurement of RF current, and the physical 
dimensions of the antenna, which might amount to a few dB, depending on how 
well it is done.

For field strength measurements, the measuring antenna and receiver 
calibration can be done with amateur facilities to within 1 - 2dB with care. 
I have found measuring LF/MF field strengths is repeatable within about 1dB 
with a given TX antenna, however the ERP calculated from individual 
measurements varies by +/- a few dB, depending on the location where the 
measurement was done. So it has been my practice to calculate the ERP as an 
average between a dozen or so locations.

This may sound vague, but it does mean being able to predict ERP and field 
strength over reasonable distances to within a few decibels, a fraction of 
an 'S' point. Compared with the way amateurs normally specify radiated 
signal strength, this is fantastic precision. In particular, the traditional 
way of stating TX output power and describing the antenna is quantitatively 
almost meaningless, especially where small antennas in less-than-ideal 
locations are concerned. Hence some stations "get out well" compared to 
other apparently similar stations using this type of description.

...>I don't know what the answer is, but it is clear that ERP at LF is far 
more complex than at VHF/UHF etc. where 'full size' antennas are generally 
used....>

I expect this is true up to a point, although somebody specifying the gain 
of an antenna to the nearest 0.1dB doesn't mean the gain and ERP is actually 
known with anything like that accuracy. I think there is major difference 
between LF and VHF/UHF. At VHF/UHF, you would consider a signal with a 
particular ERP radiated by an antenna being subject to separate effects such 
as absorbtion, reflection, re-radiation, etc. by objects in the environment 
nearby which would affect the field strength at a distant point. At LF/MF, 
the surrounding environment is so close to the antenna in terms of 
wavelengths that it affects the impedance and radiation resistance of the 
antenna, and has to be considered as part of the antenna, with a direct 
effect on the ERP.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 



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Dear LF
WSPR OR7T raport:
1858 -14  0.7   0.503801  0 OR7T JO20 23
1904  -9  0.8   0.503802  0 OR7T JO20 23
1908 -13  1.0   0.503802  0 OR7T JO20 23
1916  -8  1.0   0.503803  0 OR7T JO20 23
1924 -11  0.9   0.503803  0 OR7T JO20 23
1932 -19  0.8   0.503803  0 OR7T JO20 23
1938 -14  1.0   0.503803  0 OR7T JO20 23
1946 -13  0.9   0.503804  0 OR7T JO20 23
1950 -13  0.9   0.503804  0 OR7T JO20 23
1956 -23  1.1   0.503805  0 OR7T JO20 23
2002  -9  1.0   0.503805  0 OR7T JO20 23
2010  -7  1.0   0.503805  0 OR7T JO20 23
2016 -16  0.9   0.503806  0 OR7T JO20 23
2020  -9  0.9   0.503806  0 OR7T JO20 23
Recived on Club SP2KDS 160m dipole antenna.
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI

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According to the chap who gave the EMC/PLT lecture at the RSGB HFC at
Wyboston, plasma screens and the like contain an excellent mains filter.  He
showed one from a scrap Sony tv 

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

Dr. James Cowburn

 

  _____  

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton
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Subject: LF: PARTS SOURCE

 

I have just stripped down a SAMSUNG flat screen TV. There are scores of FETS
of all varieties and heatsinks. Ideal parts source for the LF/MF TX builder.

plus some nice toroid transformers.

de mal/g3kev

 


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></font></p>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>With best regar=
ds</span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o=
:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New Rom=
an"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New Rom=
an"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><b><font size=3D6 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Fr=
eestyle Script"><span style=3D'font-size:24.0pt;font-family:"Freestyle=
 Script";color:navy'>Jim</span></font></b></strong><font color=3Dnavy>=
<span style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New Rom=
an"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></spa=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New Rom=
an"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dr. James Cowbu=
rn</span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New Rom=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></fon=
t></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:Tahoma'> owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</st1:PersonName> [mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">=
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName>] <b><span style=3D'font-=
weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>mal <st1:City w:st=3D"on"><st1:pl=
ace  w:st=3D"on">hamilton</st1:place></st1:City><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 15 October 2009=
 17:15<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> rsgb<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: PARTS SOUR=
CE</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>I have just stripped&nbsp;down&nbsp;a=
 SAMSUNG flat screen
TV. There are scores of FETS of&nbsp;all varieties and heatsinks. Idea=
l parts
source for the LF/MF&nbsp;TX builder.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>plus some nice&nbsp;toroid transformers=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
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Ok,Nicolas,

I blow up the pl-519s,and now i wil use the first from ropex.
I had already 2 amps into the antenne but on the wrong freq
just into the cw band hi,

best 73s

henny cpm
  Original Message -----=20
  From: f4dtl@aol.com=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 11:15 AM
  Subject: Re : LF: DTL 27-10.jpg


  Thanx Henny,beacon to RN3AGC's grabber without success last night.

  F4DTL Nicolas




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  A : blacksheep <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
  Envoy=C3=A9 le : Mardi, 27 Octobre 2009 10:58
  Sujet : LF: DTL 27-10.jpg


  Hi LF,
  Capture DTL
  Henny pa3cpm
  73s
  Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden=
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  DTL 27-10.jpg

  Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen vir=
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e. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt we=
ten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.=20




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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ok,Nicolas,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I blow up the pl-519s,and now i wil=
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from ropex.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I had already 2 amps into the antenne=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>just into the cw band hi,</FONT></DIV=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>henny cpm</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 27, 20=
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  <DIV>Thanx Henny,beacon to RN3AGC's grabber&nbsp;without success las=
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Piotr MÅ‚ynarski" <sq7mpj@toya.net.pl>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: VE1VDM 500khz WSPR


> mal hamilton wrote:
>

Tnx Piotr
Nice qso solid 599 ur cw sig. Direct qsl is faster if u need one.
73 and agn tnx de mal/g3kev

>
> Dear Mal,
> tnx very much for my first x-band 500kc(qrss3)/7Mhz(CW)  qso.  Of
> course, i will  also confirm  our qso via qsl card.
> please  tell me whether it may  go direct or via the bureau
> you will find (enclosed) the last characters of ur qrss3 transmission.-
> indeed a perfect  and strong signal here , in poland  at this moment
> RX side: 1sq meter loop with a simple homemade buffer/amplifier and ft857d
> TX side:  ic746pro / w3dzz
>
>                                                      73 de  Piotr, sq7mpj
>
> qth: Lodz /jo91rs/
>
>


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0240  -6  1.7   0.503950  0 M0BMU IO91 33
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hallo nicolas !
after your cq call i was  calling you, but  no answer ,after a time i 
leave my shake fore a time ...
your signal was  readable .
now i saw you calling me but it was to late sorry so ,
i will  now starting a few cq calls 73 de ossi


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> Hello Ossi,sorry I missed your call.I saw it with the DF6NM's grabber.
> I try to calling you on 137720.
>  
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hallo nicolas !<br>
after your cq call i was&nbsp; calling you, but&nbsp; no answer ,after a time i
leave my shake fore a time ...<br>
your signal was&nbsp; readable .<br>
now i saw you calling me but it was to late sorry so ,<br>
i will&nbsp; now starting a few cq calls 73 de ossi<br>
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<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:F4DTL@aol.com">F4DTL@aol.com</a> schrieb:
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  <div>Hello Ossi,sorry I missed your call.I saw it with the DF6NM's
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Now TX 502.57 qsx 137.7
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I have just stripped down a SAMSUNG flat screen TV. There are scores=
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Hello Steve,

> 6. RN3AGC - can't connect.

Now the grabber here: http://rn3agc.msk.ru/grabber
Usually the grabber works on 136 khz. But if it will be necessary, I can switch it on 500 khz.

73 Andrey rn3agc 


> G'day Gary,
> 
> There currently seems to be a rend in the time-space continuum here down under in VK-land....
> 
> Apart from your site - for which I get a "can't connect".
> 
> From the links on the Google site I get the following results.
> 
> 1. GM4SLV - last grab Jan 2009.
> 2. CT1DRP - last grab Nov 2008.
> 3. Hartmut Wolff - last grab Nov 2008.
> 4. GM4ISM - can't connect.
> 5. DF6NM - last grab May 2008.
> 6. RN3AGC - can't connect.
> 
> The only one that works is the http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/ link.
> 
> What am I missing ?
> 
> 73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)


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Tnx Warren for the interest but I only work QSO mode. If I knew what time u 
are actually listening I will TX and have a QSO on 500 or qsx 7033
flexible operating this end.
73 de mal/g3kev

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Mal
>
> I check your frequency. Sunset here isn't until 2230Z...what time do you
> QRT?
>
> How about a beacon signal? ;~)
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
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> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 11:34 AM
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>
>
>> Warren
>> Great propagation around EU and Russia at present on 500. I have been
>> copied in Russia and eastern EU while daylight here, also 160m is good
>> with daytime reception and QSO'S as far as the Moscow area
>> Probably good to the west but not sure if anyone is monitoring in the USA
>> during evening time here.
>> 73 de mal/g3kev
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
>> To: "rsgb_lf_group" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 4:18 PM
>> Subject: LF: Propagation report
>>
>>
>>>I have noted that Alan Melia has not updated his propagation  report
>>> since the 7th of July!
>>> Hope all is well with Alan!
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> 73 Warren K2ORS
>>>                WD2XGJ
>>>                WD2XSH/23
>>>                WE2XEB/2
>>>                WE2XGR/1
>>>
>>
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hi Gary=20
many thanks for the capture
good evening
Claude F8boj JN16WA
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  Hi LF,


  Captured last night (2308utc - 01/10/2009).




  73


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Hello Jim!
I sent you a letter about 4 weeks ago. Do you receive it, please?
It was my QSL for our 137kHz QSO inside.

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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> From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com
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Hi Roger

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Your new set up is working well!  At least 8 to 10dB better then befor=
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You are now romping in at -20dB and loads of decodes

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Top work.  You'll be working A1AA next!!!

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With best regards

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Jim

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Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS

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With best regards

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Jim

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Dr. James Cowburn

26 Birch Close

Broom

Biggleswade

Beds

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Roger Lapthor=
n
Sent: 21 October 2009 18:53
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Best receiving antenna wanted

=20

I built a version of the PA0RDT mini-whip just using an MPF102 and 2N3=
904
and it did a quite credible job on 136 and 500kHz even using it in the
shack. It would be even better out in the clear away from the house no=
ise
sources.

73s=20
Roger G3XBM=20

2009/10/21 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Hi Horst, Jim, LF,

=20

Same here, I have used a PA0RDT Mini-Whip active antenna for a good wh=
ile
now & it's performance is very good right down to 10kHz, may even go=
 lower
if I knew what to look for !!!

=20

My online grabbers use the Mini-Whip antenna.

=20

73,

=20

Gary - G4WGT.

2009/10/21 James Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.net>

=20

Hi Horst

I've just installed one of Roelof Bakker's (PA0RDT) active mini whips=
 and it
is excellent at my QTH.  Just my view, others may have different exper=
iences

With best regards


Jim


Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Horst St=F6ck=
er
Sent: 21 October 2009 17:26
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Best receiving antenna wanted

Hello,
now that I am happy with my selectiv level meter Praecitronic MV-62 I=
 am
looking for the best receicing antenna.
Especially I am interested in 400khz, 136kHz, 72kHz and below 22 kHz.=
 With
my 40m longwire reception is not good enough and with a frame antenna=
 of
900m copper wire it was disappointing, too..
I think, an active antenna for 0 to 500 MHz would be the best for me=
 - but I
am looking forward to any other idea.
vy73 Horst DO1KHS
_______________________________________________________________
Neu: WEB.DE DSL bis 50.000 kBit/s und 200,- Euro Startguthaben!
http://produkte.web.de/go/02/




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e=3D'font-size:  10.0pt'>Your new set up is working well! =A0At least=
 8 to 10dB better then
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o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span styl=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:10.0pt;  font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></fo=
nt></b><font size=3D2  face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:Tahoma'> owner-<st1:PersonName  w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@b=
lacksheep.org</st1:PersonName> [mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName  w:st=3D"=
on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName>] <b><span  style=3D'=
font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Roger Lapthorn<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 21 October 2009=
 18:53<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:s=
t=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: LF: RE: Be=
st
receiving antenna wanted</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D3  fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>I built a vers=
ion of the
PA0RDT mini-whip just using an MPF102 and 2N3904 and it did a quite cr=
edible
job on 136 and 500kHz even using it in the shack. It would be even bet=
ter out
in the clear away from the house noise sources.<br>
<br>
73s <br>
Roger G3XBM <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size:  12.0pt'>2009/10/21 Gary - G4WGT &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk">g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk</a>&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></=
font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size:  12.0pt'>Same here, I have used a PA0RDT Mini-Whip ac=
tive antenna for a good
while now &amp; it's performance is very good right down to 10kHz, may=
 even go
lower if I knew what to look for !!!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size:  12.0pt'>My online grabbers use the Mini-Whip antenna=
.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size:  12.0pt'>73,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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le=3D'font-size:  12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D3  fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Gary - G4WGT.<=
o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size:  12.0pt'>2009/10/21 James Cowburn &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:james.cowburn@virgin.net"  target=3D"_blank">james.cowburn@virgin.n=
et</a>&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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ng:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;  margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size:  12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D3  fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Hi Horst<br>
<br>
I've just installed one of Roelof Bakker's (PA0RDT) active mini whips=
 and it<br>
is excellent at my QTH. &nbsp;Just my view, others may have different
experiences<br>
<br>
With best regards<br>
<br>
<br>
Jim<br>
<br>
<br>
Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"=
_blank">owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a><br>
[mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=
=3D"_blank">owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>]
On Behalf Of Horst St=F6cker<br>
Sent: 21 October 2009 17:26<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank">=
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a><br>
Subject: LF: Best receiving antenna wanted<br>
<br>
Hello,<br>
now that I am happy with my selectiv level meter Praecitronic MV-62 I=
 am<br>
looking for the best receicing antenna.<br>
Especially I am interested in 400khz, 136kHz, 72kHz and below 22 kHz.=
 With<br>
my 40m longwire reception is not good enough and with a frame antenna=
 of<br>
900m copper wire it was disappointing, too..<br>
I think, an active antenna for 0 to 500 MHz would be the best for me=
 - but I<br>
am looking forward to any other idea.<br>
vy73 Horst DO1KHS<br>
_______________________________________________________________<br>
Neu: <a href=3D"http://WEB.DE" target=3D"_blank">WEB.DE</a> DSL bis 50=
.000 kBit/s
und 200,- Euro Startguthaben!<br>
<a href=3D"http://produkte.web.de/go/02/" target=3D"_blank">http://pro=
dukte.web.de/go/02/</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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DI2AG is now in WSPR. TX QRG 505.090, Dial 503.590. Pwr 0.5W ERP.
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Jim,
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Thanks very much for the explanation it's very helpful. Too bad there aren=
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73,
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David Weinreich
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From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
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Date: 10/07/09 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: LF:  Re Propagation report
Dear David, LF Group,

There are basically two ways of determining ERP, briefly:

Method 1 is to calculate the radiation resistance (Rrad) of your antenna,=
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which can be done using various text-book formulae, or using antenna=20
simulation software like EZNEC or similar. Then you measure the RF current=
=20
flowing in the antenna (Iant). The ERP is then Iant^2 x Rrad x 1.8 (1.8 is=
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the directivity of electrically small vertical or loop antennas, which in=
=20
practice is what all amateur 136kHz antennas are).

Method 2 is to measure the field strength some km from the antenna. The ER=
P=20
is then (E x d)^2 /49, where E is the field strength, d distance in metres=
.=20
This requires a calibrated antenna and measuring receiver, so is more=20
complicated to do.

Method 1 is simpler to do, but yields ERP results that tend to be lower th=
an=20
those obtained by method 2. This is thought to be due to various combined=
=20
environmental effects on the antenna, which are not accounted for in the=
=20
simple calculation. So to get a more accurate and definitive figure, you=
=20
need to do method 2, but as far as compliance with licence conditions is=
=20
concerned, method 1 is a conservative way of checking.

Good luck in your efforts!

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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Peter,

As an interested observer from the other side of the pond, how do you=20
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Tnx & 73,

David Weinreich
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<TD>Re: LF:&nbsp; Re Propagation report</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Dear Davi=
d, LF Group,<BR><BR>There are basically two ways of determining ERP, brief=
ly:<BR><BR>Method 1 is to calculate the radiation resistance (Rrad) of you=
r antenna, <BR>which can be done using various text-book formulae, or usin=
g antenna <BR>simulation software like EZNEC or similar. Then you measure=
 the RF current <BR>flowing in the antenna (Iant). The ERP is then Iant^2=
 x Rrad x 1.8 (1.8 is <BR>the directivity of electrically small vertical=
 or loop antennas, which in <BR>practice is what all amateur 136kHz antenn=
as are).<BR><BR>Method 2 is to measure the field strength some km from the=
 antenna. The ERP <BR>is then (E x d)^2 /49, where E is the field strength=
, d distance in metres. <BR>This requires a calibrated antenna and measuri=
ng receiver, so is more <BR>complicated to do.<BR><BR>Method 1 is simpler=
 to do, but yields ERP results that tend to be lower than <BR>those obtain=
ed by method 2. This is thought to be due to various combined <BR>environm=
ental effects on the antenna, which are not accounted for in the <BR>simpl=
e calculation. So to get a more accurate and definitive figure, you <BR>ne=
ed to do method 2, but as far as compliance with licence conditions is <BR=
>concerned, method 1 is a conservative way of checking.<BR><BR>Good luck=
 in your efforts!<BR><BR>Cheers, Jim Moritz<BR>73 de M0BMU<BR><BR>----- Or=
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Ive put up and refined the 500Khz listening system here in Wasilla/Palmer=
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Antennae is K9AY in Omni mode (2 loops) - K9AY not as sensitive as I would=
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Ive put up and refined the 500Khz listening system here in Wasilla/Palmer=
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&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;Ill leave the receiver on dial 502.4USB WSPR for the next period +24=
 or so.&nbsp; <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Antennae is K9AY in Omni mode (2 loops) - K9AY not as sensitive as I would=
 like on 137&nbsp;in this config but looks good at 500.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Ive up a probe for LF VLF but this requires cabling which I just didnt hav=
e time to finish into the house but it looked good and sensitivity was goo=
d as s/n not bad at all. Nice bright Loran lines in the right places --<BR=
>
&nbsp;<BR>
Im now traveling again and wont have control of the AK receiver for the ne=
xt 48 hours.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
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G'day All,

In an expression of extreme optimism I am interested in getting details of 
500kc beacons (preferably QRSS30 and slower) in Europe.    To get real-time 
confirmation of on-air status I am also looking for relevant local grabbers 
for those beacons.

73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV) 



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On 23/10/2009 at 10:36 James Cowburn wrote:

>Dear John/LF
>
>=20
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>Is the UK now not a 10w ERP limit? =20

Thanks for the update.  Things may have moved on, but we don't have 505 he=
re.

73
John F5VLF




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Excellent condx last nite. JA stns galore all evening and later plenty=
 of USA acty on 160 m MF, expect 600 metres the same.
Last nite would have been a good opportunity for USA /EU QSO'S on 600m
G3KEV

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 1:39 AM
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  =20
  Greetings -=20
  =20
  Reasonable at MF towards Eu but spoilt by QRM at my end. QRM is comi=
ng from a wayward overmodulated/driven MF coast station that should kn=
ow better..
  =20
  Decodes from Gus
  =20
        2009-10-21 19:18   SM6BHZ   0.503924   -27   0   JO57wq   1 =
  BY3A   OM89ua   7254   55 =20
         2009-10-21 19:14   SM6BHZ   0.503924   -24   0   JO57wq   1=
   BY3A   OM89ua   7254   55 =20

  =20
  This was a peak of signals from Gus - the "opening" lasted about an=
 hour (abt my 0300 local) or so with an abrupt increase and slow fade=
 out - Some evidence of other WSPR carriers on assigned freqs but no=
 decode.
  =20
  =20
  137 was quiet with  "W" on DFCW of probably WPF coming thru strongly=
 till after my dawn - no Western Eu stations fully decoded but some ch=
aracters.
  =20
  Tonight will be my last night here "MFLing and "LFLing" in China for=
 a few weeks as I wander over to KL7 and thence XE. I qrt in China in=
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  =20
  Laurence
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On 07/10/2009 at 20:06 Gary - G4WGT wrote:

>Hi LF,
>Looks like some electrical storms in western Europe causing almost total
>wipe-out of the grabbers here.
>
>Also lots of loud static crashes on 136kHz.

Here they are as strong as Europe No 1, which has 2MW and a 5 element arra=
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great
I will leave the station running at 33% TX for another hour or so and  
then to RX

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Vernon <vmath@eastlink.ca>:

> just decoded OR7T at 2210 on .503867
>
>




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hi Nicolas
Many thanks for the report activity 137 khz=20
Nicolas ur O O O...very strong...3 stations on 137 khz for my..BWO DTL=
 and qso with IK5ZPV....
friend Valerio...MM received
good lf for to day..
Claude F8BOJ JN16WA

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<DIV>hi Nicolas</DIV>
<DIV>Many thanks for the report activity 137 khz </DIV>
<DIV>Nicolas ur O O O...very strong...3 stations on 137 khz for my..BW=
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qso with IK5ZPV....</DIV>
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Hallo Werner,

EI0CF ist hier auch sehr gut zu hören,ruft jetzt gerade CQ.
Die K9 ist wesentlich besser im SNR als der Dipol,etwa so 6dB.

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Clemens
DL4RAJ
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  Hello Finbar!
  I listen to your regular CW signal on 501.055kHz. You have got a contact with VX9MRC. Your 
signal is FB 589!

  Lubos, OK2BVG


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Hallo Werner,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>EI0CF ist hier auch sehr gut zu h=F6ren,ruft=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Die K9 ist wesentlich besser im SNR als der=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>73<BR>Clemens<BR>DL4RAJ</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>Hello Finbar!<BR>I listen to your regular CW signal=
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With eight unique stations copying me so far this evening I'm going to leave
the <1mW ERP 500kHz WSPR beaconing *running overnight* in the hope that I
can get a 20th station to copy me.

I'd* love* to be received by Gus SM6BHZ in Sweden and this is <100kms
further than John GM4SLV in the Shetlands, so is not an impossibility on a
good night.

We live on hope, optimism and good luck!

73s
Roger G3XBM

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With eight unique stations copying me so far this evening I&#39;m going to=
 leave the &lt;1mW ERP 500kHz WSPR beaconing <b>running overnight</b> in=
 the hope that I can get a 20th station to copy me. <br><br>I&#39;d<i> lov=
e</i> to be received by Gus SM6BHZ in Sweden and this is &lt;100kms furthe=
r than John GM4SLV in the Shetlands, so is not an impossibility on a good=
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<br>We live on hope, optimism and good luck!<br clear=3D"all"><br>73s<br>R=
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Hello Warren, LF!
I saw part of your callsign only.

Lubos, OK2BVG=20
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Hello Warren, LF!<br>I saw part of your callsign only.<br><br>Lubos, OK2BV=
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Andy Talbot wrote:
> ---
> There is no 'chance' involved.  The strong source coding employed in 
> all the WSJT modes to get the number of bits to be encoded down to an 
> absolute minimum, before proper error correction is added, removes all 
> wasted redundancy in the original callsign format.   This has the 
> result that most _truly random_ bit patterns will therefore generate a 
> valid looking callsign.  Its an artefact of efficient coding.
>  
>
Andy

Thanks for the explanation. It is interesting to see WSPR decoding 
things such as CQ and a plausible looking callsign and today mine has a 
message "de 9y4/mk0whx rrr". All these on 500kHz.

I notice that your beacon is detectable all day here.

73
Richard
G3CWI



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Hi LF group
=C2=A0
Thank you Jim and Laurence for you interest and information.
=C2=A0
Lifting this from Wikipedia ....... "With standard ADSL (annex A), the ban=
d from 25.875=C2=A0kHz to 138=C2=A0kHz is used for upstream communication,=
 while 138=C2=A0kHz =E2=80=93 1104=C2=A0kHz is used for downstream communi=
cation" .......=C2=A0
Jim is right about 136 and I find the band unaffected it is in=C2=A0a dead=
 spot in the ADSL spectrum, assuming its clean of course.
I have considered filters that are advertised but since we have a weak ADS=
L signal here, easily knocked out by Amateur TX on virtually any band I fe=
lt that a filter would make things worse in that respect. The reasoning be=
ing that a filter notch sitting right in the middle of the down stream cha=
nnel would adversely affect the down load times which are only a tad bette=
r than dial up here. I may make something and try it, thanks for putting=
 that idea into the mix.
=C2=A0
It doesn't help that my antenna runs above the BT line (at right angles)=
=C2=A0to my neighbours place but having said that trials at the furthest=
 distance from the line using a frame ant and battery run RX things were=
 no better. However I did not earth the LW=C2=A0that I will try next time.
=C2=A0
Thanks to all for the inputs I have filed them for reference.
=C2=A0
73 petefmt
=C2=A0
--- On Wed, 14/10/09, Laurence BY3A-KL1X China <hellozerohellozero@hotmail=
.com> wrote:


From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: LF: MOFMT ADSL noise
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Wednesday, 14 October, 2009, 3:39 AM




I had the same problem on 500 up in KL7 at home. I ended up moving the=C2=
=A0modem to the garage where the telephone line comes out of the ground an=
d keeping the ADSL loaded wiring as short as possible - =C2=A0then on the=
 telephone side of the router=C2=A0=C2=A0I connected up a pair of reasonab=
le quality of seried ADSL filters=C2=A0outbound for normal telephone wirin=
g=C2=A0in the house. From 20 over noise I cant "see=C2=A0it"=C2=A0now as=
 the big antennae has been chocked off. I only use wireless around the pro=
perty so it wasnt an issue.
=C2=A0
Next job is to choke off the noise from the AC power line coming out of th=
e ground - its awful.
=C2=A0
relates to MTA Palmer Alaska solutions ADSL

=C2=A0
Laurence KL 1 X
=C2=A0
> From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:10:53 +0100
> Subject: Re: LF: MOFMT ADSL noise
>=20
> Dear Pete, Paul-Henrik,
>=20
> M0FMT wrote:
> ....> Well I can only conclude it is ADSL because it is just raising the=
=20
> noise floor it is very subtle not really identifiable like say TV LTB,=
 it's=20
> a mush...>
>=20
> I have problems with ADSL on 500kHz at my QTH - it sounds like "white no=
ise"=20
> with no audible distinctive features I can detect. The noise can be abou=
t=20
> 10 - 20dB over the band noise here over a fairly wide bandwidth in the=
 MF=20
> range. It does not seem to be a problem at 136k, perhaps because this is=
 in=20
> the guard band between upstream and downstream ADSL signals. It is easy=
 to=20
> tell if you are experiencing noise from your own ADSL connection -=20
> disconnect the incoming phone line (probably just unplugging the modem=
 from=20
> the phone socket will be enough) and there will be a reduction in noise=
=20
> level. Unfortunately, there also seems to be a significant level of simi=
lar=20
> noise here from other sources, probably my neighbors' ADSL via the overh=
ead=20
> phone lines.
>=20
> I have had some success with a noise-cancelling arrangement here, where=
 the=20
> ADSL noise is sampled using a current transformer made by passing the=20
> incoming phone line through a ferrite core, and summed with the signal=
 from=20
> loop antennas via a variable phase-shifting and gain-adjusting network,=
=20
> which is adjusted for a null in the noise. Also, moving the loop around=
 the=20
> QTH shows some positions are better than others. Actually, life is a bit=
=20
> more complicated at this particular QTH, since there also seems to be=20
> wide-band noise originating as very low-level sidebands from the local=
=20
> broadcast stations. This requires a second noise-cancelling network to=
 null=20
> noise from that direction. Also, it was necessary to insert a relay in=
=20
> series with the loading coil to disconnect the TX antenna on receive,=20
> otherwise this coupled more noise into the receiving antennas. But when=
 it=20
> is all adjusted properly, the overall noise level can be reduced in=20
> favourable directions by about 20dB, which is worth doing.
>=20
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU=20
>=20
>=20



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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D=
"top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV>Hi LF group</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Thank you Jim and Laurence for you interest and information.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Lifting this from Wikipedia ....... "With standard ADSL (annex A), th=
e band from 25.875&nbsp;<A class=3Dmw-redirect title=3DKHz href=3D"http://=
uk.mc281.mail.yahoo.com/wiki/KHz">kHz</A> to 138&nbsp;kHz is used for upst=
ream communication, while 138&nbsp;kHz =E2=80=93 1104&nbsp;kHz is used for=
 downstream communication" .......&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Jim is right about 136 and I find the band unaffected it is in&nbsp;a=
 dead spot in the ADSL spectrum, assuming its clean of course.</DIV>
<DIV>I have considered filters that are advertised but since we have a wea=
k ADSL signal here, easily knocked out by Amateur TX on virtually any band=
 I felt that a filter would make things worse in that respect. The reasoni=
ng being that a filter notch sitting right in the middle of the down strea=
m channel would adversely affect the down load times which are only a tad=
 better than dial up here. I may make something and try it, thanks for put=
ting that idea into the mix.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>It doesn't help that my antenna runs above the BT line (at right angl=
es)&nbsp;to my neighbours place but having said that trials at the furthes=
t distance from the line using a frame ant and battery run RX things were=
 no better. However I did not earth the LW&nbsp;that I will try next time.=
</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Thanks to all for the inputs I have filed them for reference.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73 <SPAN>petefmt</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>--- On <B>Wed, 14/10/09, Laurence BY3A-KL1X China <I>&lt;hellozerohel=
lozero@hotmail.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT:=
 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China &lt;hellozerohe=
llozero@hotmail.com&gt;<BR>Subject: RE: LF: MOFMT ADSL noise<BR>To: rsgb_l=
f_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Date: Wednesday, 14 October, 2009, 3:39 AM<BR><B=
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I had the same problem on 500 up in KL7 at home. I ended up moving the&nbs=
p;modem to the garage where the telephone line comes out of the ground and=
 keeping the ADSL loaded wiring as short as possible - &nbsp;then on the=
 telephone side of the router&nbsp;&nbsp;I connected up a pair of reasonab=
le quality of seried ADSL filters&nbsp;outbound for normal telephone wirin=
g&nbsp;in the house. From 20 over noise I cant "see&nbsp;it"&nbsp;now as=
 the big antennae has been chocked off. I only use wireless around the pro=
perty so it wasnt an issue.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Next job is to choke off the nois=
e from the AC power line coming out of the ground - its awful.<BR>&nbsp;<B=
R>relates to MTA Palmer Alaska solutions ADSL<BR><BR>&nbsp;<BR>Laurence KL=
 1 X<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&gt; From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com<BR>&gt; To: rsgb=
_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>&gt; Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:10:53 +0100<BR>=
&gt; Subject: Re: LF: MOFMT ADSL noise<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Dear Pete,
 Paul-Henrik,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; M0FMT wrote:<BR>&gt; ....&gt; Well I can on=
ly conclude it is ADSL because it is just raising the <BR>&gt; noise floor=
 it is very subtle not really identifiable like say TV LTB, it's <BR>&gt;=
 a mush...&gt;<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I have problems with ADSL on 500kHz at my=
 QTH - it sounds like "white noise" <BR>&gt; with no audible distinctive=
 features I can detect. The noise can be about <BR>&gt; 10 - 20dB over the=
 band noise here over a fairly wide bandwidth in the MF <BR>&gt; range. It=
 does not seem to be a problem at 136k, perhaps because this is in <BR>&gt=
; the guard band between upstream and downstream ADSL signals. It is easy=
 to <BR>&gt; tell if you are experiencing noise from your own ADSL connect=
ion - <BR>&gt; disconnect the incoming phone line (probably just unpluggin=
g the modem from <BR>&gt; the phone socket will be enough) and there will=
 be a reduction in noise <BR>&gt; level. Unfortunately, there also seems=
 to be a
 significant level of similar <BR>&gt; noise here from other sources, prob=
ably my neighbors' ADSL via the overhead <BR>&gt; phone lines.<BR>&gt; <BR=
>&gt; I have had some success with a noise-cancelling arrangement here, wh=
ere the <BR>&gt; ADSL noise is sampled using a current transformer made by=
 passing the <BR>&gt; incoming phone line through a ferrite core, and summ=
ed with the signal from <BR>&gt; loop antennas via a variable phase-shifti=
ng and gain-adjusting network, <BR>&gt; which is adjusted for a null in th=
e noise. Also, moving the loop around the <BR>&gt; QTH shows some position=
s are better than others. Actually, life is a bit <BR>&gt; more complicate=
d at this particular QTH, since there also seems to be <BR>&gt; wide-band=
 noise originating as very low-level sidebands from the local <BR>&gt; bro=
adcast stations. This requires a second noise-cancelling network to null=
 <BR>&gt; noise from that direction. Also, it was necessary to insert a re=
lay in
 <BR>&gt; series with the loading coil to disconnect the TX antenna on rec=
eive, <BR>&gt; otherwise this coupled more noise into the receiving antenn=
as. But when it <BR>&gt; is all adjusted properly, the overall noise level=
 can be reduced in <BR>&gt; favourable directions by about 20dB, which is=
 worth doing.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Cheers, Jim Moritz<BR>&gt; 73 de M0BMU <BR>=
&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR><BR>
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Hello Henny , Warren ,

Very bad copy of XGJ on the grabber last night .

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> Hello Warren,LF
> capture XGJ
> Henny pa3cpm
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Dear Henry, LF
This is Capture HF70W.
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI

Hi LF,
Capture WHO ?
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
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And mine for the 503.8kHz beacon.
Think they were used somewhere in the old Decca chain for fine tuning

Andy
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2009/10/20 Dave Pick <daveyxm@googlemail.com>

> That is the same one I use on 500kHz!
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> 2009/10/20 Petr Mal=FD <p.maly@gmc.net>
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>  Hello all,
>>
>> Too lazy to make variometer? LF/MF-related items rarely appear on eBay,
>> here comes one:
>>
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.de/Variometer_W0QQitemZ110447622031QQcmdZViewItemQQptZD=
E_TV_Video_Elektronik_Funkger%C3%A4te?hash=3Ditem19b730f78f
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>> 73, Petr, OK1FIG
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<div>And mine for the 503.8kHz beacon.</div>
<div>Think they were used somewhere in the old Decca chain for fine tuning=
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<div><br clear=3D"all">Andy<br><a href=3D"http://www.g4jnt.com">www.g4jnt.=
com</a><br><br>this email has been scanned for political correctness by th=
e nanny state<br><br><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/20 Dave Pick <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
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an><br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">That is the same one I use on=
 500kHz!<br><br>Dave<br>-- <br>G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK<br><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/20 Petr Mal=FD <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
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<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Hello all,</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Too lazy to make variometer? LF/MF-re=
lated items rarely appear on eBay, here comes one:</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><a href=3D"http://cgi.ebay.de/Variome=
ter_W0QQitemZ110447622031QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDE_TV_Video_Elektronik_Funkger=
%C3%A4te?hash=3Ditem19b730f78f" target=3D"_blank">http://cgi.ebay.de/Vario=
meter_W0QQitemZ110447622031QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDE_TV_Video_Elektronik_Funkg=
er%C3%A4te?hash=3Ditem19b730f78f</a></font></div>

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Hello LF,
Capture WPF,
Henny pa3cpm
73s
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello LF,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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Good evening Andrey
Many thanks gud night
Claude F8boj jn16wa
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> Hi Claude,
> I switch the grabber on 136 khz. www.rn3agc.msk.ru/grabber
> Good night!
> 
> 73 Andrey
> 
> 
> hi LF
> 137776.20hz BOJ qrss 60...21h18 TU
> Claude F8boj JN16WA
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U wag you!!!

More like the Shamen!  I am 45!!



With best regards
 
 
Jim
 
 
Dr. James Cowburn

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>>> And I am Dr. QRPp!!    <<<<

Dr Field good I presume ?

G :) ..

(for the younger ones http://www.drfeelgood.de/)

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From: "James Cowburn" <james.cowburn@virgin.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:32 PM
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Subject: RE: LF: 500kHz QRPp WSPRing tonight

>
> Hi John
>
> And I am Dr. QRPp!!  You've tagged me 3 times so far.  My earth 
> improvements
> are working!!
>
> Cheers
>
> With best regards
>
>
> Jim
>
>
> Dr. James Cowburn
> as well as its attachments and delete the whole from any computer."
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John P-G
> Sent: 15 October 2009 20:43
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz QRPp WSPRing tonight
>
>
>
> Roger Lapthorn wrote:
>> This evening and overnight I shall be running my little 500kHz WSPR 
>> beacon
>> in its "original" state (ERP around 6uW) before I start mods to the TX 
>> and
>> the antenna, hopefully resulting in stronger signals.
>
> I'm game for a try, looking now and will leave it running overnight.
> Already got G7NKS!
>
> Good luck,
>
> John
> GM4SLV
>
>
>



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Hello J-P Warren,LF,
You are right,J-P,
It is still the capture of 15-10,the date of the pc is here not corect=
,sri=20
for that,so also nil here on the screen,
henny pa3cpm
best 73s
----- Original Message -----=20
From: ""Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)"" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
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Hi henny ,

Very strange ! nothing here on my grabber last night ?

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> Thi is the capture of 16-10 Warren,LF
> 73s
> henny cpm
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: henny van elst
> To: blacksheep
> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 10:53 AM
> Subject: XGJ 15-10.jpg
>
>
> Hello Warren,LF,
> Nice capture XGJ
> Henny pa3cpm
> best 73s
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden=
=20
> verzonden:
> XGJ 15-10.jpg
>
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Hello Dave and LF group,How and has who to ask for the RSGB LF  award ?

73 de F4DTL  Nicolas



>  See http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/hf/hfawards/ and the page on the  
> award itself at 
>  http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/hf/hfawards/136khz.php
> 
> I am  the proud owner of certificate 7 which I received in 2002. I see 
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> 73 Dave  G3YMC

 

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Hi Henny,  Jean-Pierre,

   XGJ was off last night and will be off tonight.

--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1



On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 6:14 AM, henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl> wrote:
> Hello J-P Warren,LF,
> You are right,J-P,
> It is still the capture of 15-10,the date of the pc is here not corect,s=
ri
> for that,so also nil here on the screen,
> henny pa3cpm
> best 73s
> ----- Original Message ----- From: ""Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)""
> <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 11:58 AM
> Subject: Re: LF: Fw: XGJ 16-10.jpg
>
>
> Hi henny ,
>
> Very strange ! nothing here on my grabber last night ?
>
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
> henny van elst a =E9crit :
>>
>> Thi is the capture of 16-10 Warren,LF
>> 73s
>> henny cpm
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: henny van elst
>> To: blacksheep
>> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 10:53 AM
>> Subject: XGJ 15-10.jpg
>>
>>
>> Hello Warren,LF,
>> Nice capture XGJ
>> Henny pa3cpm
>> best 73s
>> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden
>> verzonden:
>> XGJ 15-10.jpg
>>
>> Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen viruss=
en
>> het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe.
>> Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten=
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>> bijlagen worden afgehandeld.
>>
>>
>>
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Hi All LF.
Testing again tonight.

503.600kHz - QRS3 - CW ID - 5 minute intervals - 3 watts ERP.

Reports welcome.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.

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Hi All LF.<div><br></div><div>Testing again tonight.</div><div><br></div><=
div>503.600kHz - QRS3 - CW ID - 5 minute intervals - 3 watts ERP.</div><di=
v><br></div><div>Reports welcome.</div><div><br></div><div>73</div><div><b=
r>
</div><div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.=A0</div><div><br></div>

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Hello Jay,

I am running about 50 Watt into a 11m high and 25m long lazy-L antenna.
Estimated ERP is 200mW.
I have been copied by AA1A last weekend around 22 UTC.
I run the wspr beacon only attended and shut it down when going to bed.
I'll leave it on as long as possible tonight.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

At 16:55 29/10/2009, you wrote:
>Rik
>
>I've been watching for your WSPR signal when you are on...although most
>nights you appear to shut down early. Sunset here is 2150Z. What power and
>antenna are you running?
>
>Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Rik Strobbe" <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
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>Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 11:50 AM
>Subject: Re: LF: 500khz wspr tx
>
>
> > Hello Vernon,
> >
> > tuning frequency is 502.4kHz USB mode.
> > I will run a WSPR beacon tonight (20-24UTC).
> >
> > 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
> >
> >
> >
> > At 16:38 29/10/2009, you wrote:
> >>Hi everyone.....what dial frequency is everyone using for 500khz wspr....I
> >>finally have my long wires out and have been monitoring. I can leave WSPR
> >>running almost 24/7 to see if I can catch a WSPR signal from across the
> >>pond. I did catch a couple last year which was great!!!
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>
> >>Vernon - VE1VDM
> >>FN85ij
> >
> >



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mal hamilton wrote:
> Nw QRV 502.57 CW AND QRS3 QSX 7033 FOR DX
> MALG3KEV
>  
Copying your QRS3 on 500kHz Mal, 579, sent you a report on 7MHz, don't 
know if you got it.

Tim M0AFJ IO92OB


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Dear MF,
  in Germany we have to pay 130,-Euro for the first year, prolongation=
 is 60,- Euro every year.
73    Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Hi,
  if You get one, you have to pay 130.- Eur / year
  Therefore  I am not on air any more.=20
  On the other Hand - beaconing is boring
  DK1KQ ex DI2KA

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Thanks Clemens!  Glad to see that beautiful structure is still there.

Dex

Clemens Paul wrote:
> How about that?
> http://www.waniewski.de/id414.htm
> 
> HTH
> 73
> Clemens
> DL4RAJ
> 
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> 
>> I have a 1936 edition of Electrical Engineers Handbook by Pender - 
>> McIlwain which show a diagram of a 1030 foot antenna in Budapest used 
>> on 545 kc.  So far I have found no history on this antenna.  Anyone 
>> have any info on this station and antenna's history?
>>
>> Dex
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Andrey can see my sig solid copy on ur GRABBER
TNX MAL

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
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Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:36 PM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz


> Hi Mal,
> I have already switched on the grabber on your frequency.
> The grabber will work on 500 khz to ~21z....
>
> In the night from 1.30 till 2.45 observed someone's wspr-signals on 
> 503850.
> The signals was not decoded.
>
> 73 Andrey
>
>
>> Hi Andrey
>> Pse look at 502.57 starting at 1800 utc CW and QRS3
>> De mal/g3kev
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 6:45 PM
>> Subject: LF: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz
>>
>>
>>> Hello LF'ers,
>>> QRV RCV today WSPR-beacons on 500 kHz (503850+/-) till the morning.
>>> Also QRSS3 above frequency 502.350. If someone is going to work in
>>> QRSS3-mode,
>>> please inform your frequency.
>>>
>>> 73 Andrey
>


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Hello Andrey,

I noticed it on the wspr website, nice to see that my modest signal makes=
 it into Russia.
Thanks for reporting,

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

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Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or=
g] namens Andrey rn3agc [rn3agc@mail.ru]
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Onderwerp: Re: LF: OR7T wspr

Hello Rik, LF

2014   -30  2.0   0.503868  OR7T JO20 23
2018   -27  1.9   0.503868  OR7T JO20 23
2022   -27  2.0   0.503868  OR7T JO20 23
2052   -27  2.0   0.503864  OR7T JO20 23
2100   -26  2.0   0.503864  OR7T JO20 23
2106   -25  1.9   0.503864  OR7T JO20 23
2110   -25  2.0   0.503864  OR7T JO20 23

73 Andrey

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Many years ago there was a picture in QST of a Robin Reliant fitted
for 160 meter mobile operation with a large antenna - very comical!
--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
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                WD2XSH/23
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                WE2XGR/1





On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 6:11 PM, John RABSON <john.rabson@numeo.fr> wrote:
> On 23/10/2009 at 21:54 Graham wrote:
>
>>> *** 'crazy'? =A0That's nothing. =A0According to UK automobile regulati=
ons,
>>the
>>> Reliant Robin (a 3-wheeled vehicle with a fully enclosed fibreglass
>>body)
>>> is a motorcycle
>
> I should have put motor tricycle.
>
>>Oh no its not =A0 ... =A0Its a =A0motorcycle =A0combination .. ie =A0mot=
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>>a side =A0car .and has 3 wheels ... with =A0only =A0one driven =A0 . jus=
t happens
>
> According to the registration documents for my Reliants, they were motor=
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> John F5VLF
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How about that?
http://www.waniewski.de/id414.htm

HTH
73
Clemens
DL4RAJ

----- Original Message ----- 
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>I have a 1936 edition of Electrical Engineers Handbook by Pender - McIlwain 
> which show a diagram of a 1030 foot antenna in Budapest used on 545 kc.  So far 
> I have found no history on this antenna.  Anyone have any info on this station 
> and antenna's history?
> 
> Dex


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Hello all,

I wonder where the following web disappeared:
http://www.picks.force9.co.uk/index.htm
is it just temporarily unavailable, moved to another address, or canceled 
totally?
It was a great source of information.

Second question. I just write an article that is related to MW. Can anybody 
provide a list of countries where the band around 505kHz is allowed for 
normal QSOs (not only beacons). What are the band limits, what is the 
allowed power?

Thanks, 73, Petr, OK1FIG




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Dear LF enthusiasts!

My acty on 136 was not so successful.
On Oct 2 (Fri) there was a strong rain and very strong local lightnings (a=
s in the summer)
QRN/QRM level high
QSO HF70W (S6)
I saw some not readable QRSS on abt 137.660 (maybe IK5ZPV)

On Oct 3 (Sat) there was a small rain without lightnings, but QRN/QRM leve=
l was very high
QSOs: IK5ZPV, EW6GB, OK2BVG, UA3PW - all in QRSS10 ;-(
I saw abt 12z strong QRSS on 137.7 (HF70W) and not readable signals abt 19=
-20 DFCW3(?)
on 715, abt 21z DFCW10 on 705-706 (maybe M0BMU)
SRI - QRN level was very high on Machta ;-(

Normal levels on Machta (2km BOG + TS-850 - winter at night):
DCF39 - +20...+30 dB
137.7 - S 0-2 (but Oct 2 - S4-5, Oct 3 - S5-7)
daytime levels S 0-2 on 137.7 and DCF39 abt S7-8

TNX all for the QSOs and reports!

Next RU6LA's  acty? - I'll wait for lower levels of QRM/QRN - maybe Oct 16=
-17
or Oct 30-31 or Nov 6-7

73! Ed RU6LA   136.73.ru



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If it's meant, that these frequencies are HAM radio frequencies in germany this is not correct.

Unfortunately the lowest HAM radio band for legal amateur radio transmissions in germany is still 137 kHz.

OMs who are transmitting on 404 or 505 kHz do this with a DI Callsign. DI is for experimental stations and everyone - not just licensed radio amateurs - can apply for such a DI call. But it costs a lot of money over the time. By definition DI is not HAM radio - crazy germans ;-))

Horst DO1KHS

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That is the same one I use on 500kHz!

Dave
--=20
G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK

2009/10/20 Petr Mal=FD <p.maly@gmc.net>

>  Hello all,
>
> Too lazy to make variometer? LF/MF-related items rarely appear on eBay,
> here comes one:
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.de/Variometer_W0QQitemZ110447622031QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDE=
_TV_Video_Elektronik_Funkger%C3%A4te?hash=3Ditem19b730f78f
>
> 73, Petr, OK1FIG
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That is the same one I use on 500kHz!<br><br>Dave<br>-- <br>G3YXM IO92BK=
 Birmingham UK<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/20 Petr Mal=FD <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:p.maly@gmc.net">p.maly@gmc.net</a>&g=
t;</span><br>
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<div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Hello all,</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Too lazy to make variometer? LF/MF-re=
lated items=20
rarely appear on eBay, here comes one:</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><a href=3D"http://cgi.ebay.de/Variome=
ter_W0QQitemZ110447622031QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDE_TV_Video_Elektronik_Funkger=
%C3%A4te?hash=3Ditem19b730f78f" target=3D"_blank">http://cgi.ebay.de/Vario=
meter_W0QQitemZ110447622031QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDE_TV_Video_Elektronik_Funkg=
er%C3%A4te?hash=3Ditem19b730f78f</a></font></div>

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Roger Lapthorn wrote:
> Best DX still only 69kms John, but I live in a state of perpetual optimism
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>

Ah, but it's winter now!

J


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Yes chaps your ears did not deceive you.
Andy is operating on 500 kc/s today and maybe tomorrow.
A call on the band tonight may rouse him.

He has a 150m long and 20m high aerial but is only running=20
5 watts output !
Nonetheless he was 579 with me (IO92UB) and a good solid
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He says that he will be back in ON and QRV the weekend after=20
next.

73 Chris G3XIZ


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mal hamilton wrote:

>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Piotr M=C5=82ynarski" <sq7mpj@toya.n=
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>> mal hamilton wrote:
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> Tnx Piotr
> Nice qso solid 599 ur cw sig. Direct qsl is faster if u need one.
> 73 and agn tnx de mal/g3kev
>
Ok Mal ,
you are right so we will make it direct
                 73 de Piotr, sq7mpj


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That's a shame as I was looking forward to my first SAQ copy.  Oh well maybe
on Christmas eve then!

Cheers Roelof

With best regards
 
 
Jim
 
 
Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS

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Hello Jim,

I have seen a message that this transmission has been cancelled.
And yes, your mini-whip will do.

I even used it with Johan Bodin's great program directly fed into my  
soundcard.

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Roelof, pa0rdt



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Thank you  Marco=20

G ..=20


From: Scholz, Marco=20
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:50 PM
To: 'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'=20
Subject: RE: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


Hello Graham,
since a couple of minutes i have also success to decode your Thorb tra=
nsmission:

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thanks for signal=20
regards, vy73
Marco
DD7PC, JN49ax



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Subject: Re: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


Report  from Gary , that he  is  getting  100% decode with  Multipsk=
    and  slightly less  using Fldigi ......

MULTIPSK        >>>>>        http://f6cte.free.fr/index_anglais.htm =
 <<<<<<<<<<<


From: Graham=20
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:28 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency=20

TX set  502.000 USB
Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency=20

Repeat time 60  seconds =20

RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'  time=20

Reports / observations  =20

Tnx  Graham

G0NBD - IO83LK =20





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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thank you&nbsp; Marco </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G .. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dmarco.scholz@=
citi.com   href=3D"mailto:marco.scholz@citi.com">Scholz, Marco </A></D=
IV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:50 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mail=
to:'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'">'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'</A>=
=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> RE: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000 </DIV></DIV></DI=
V>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D666414621-27102009><FONT col=
or=3D#0000ff   size=3D2 face=3DArial>Hello Graham,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D666414621-27102009><FONT col=
or=3D#0000ff   size=3D2 face=3DArial>since a couple of minutes i have=
 also success to decode your=20
Thorb transmission:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D666414621-27102009><FONT col=
or=3D#0000ff   size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D666414621-27102009><STRONG><=
FONT   size=3D1>&nbsp;</FONT></STRONG><FONT color=3D#ff0000>QUICK BROW=
N FOX JUMPED OVER THE=20
LAZEYQMOON</FONT>QUUA3EO6789 <FONT color=3D#ff0000>GPNBD=20
TESTING</FONT>OAH1IM1JRGCM5VI8CX=20
(WBGCSP,UZJA3X,G3DUBSNL0,)V2BVMF2QPN13OLVMO511IQC=20
4BBJMU.MBNOS/A2,0I2B,J2LP8=3D2,IBJ8715NMG.O,1U5O6)D7AGHE <FONT color=
=3D#ff0000>19ICK=20
RNWN FOI</FONT> VUJPEDF5VER .BE AZTM MOO .0.23A566789 <FONT   color=3D=
#ff0000>G0NBD</FONT> TVFTINGS28U90K9RT8HDJP1TDH9FNI)2N.D7RP8QS=20
809M2LHDA1K,G,5.GTFT'IVIAJJPTC1 O8 .5LKGQ7N=20
G8JP2KBO/TM06C6T,Q3TORC64GJR4LMLG3R18KMTNN5SOTHQ <FONT color=3D#ff0000=
>NUICK BROWN=20
FOR</FONT> JUJPQD 5VT2MTHV LAGTQ MO<SPAN   class=3D666414621-27102009>=
...</SPAN></DIV>
<P dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D666414621-27102009><FONT color=
=3D#0000ff size=3D2   face=3DArial>I use MultiPSK 4.14 (</FONT></SPAN>=
<A title=3Dhttp://f6cte.free.fr/   href=3D"http://f6cte.free.fr/"><STR=
ONG><FONT   size=3D1>http://f6cte.free.fr/</FONT></STRONG></A><FONT fa=
ce=3DArial><FONT   size=3D2><FONT color=3D#0000ff>)<SPAN   class=3D666=
414621-27102009></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><BR></P>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D666414621-27102009><FONT col=
or=3D#0000ff   size=3D2 face=3DArial>thanks for signal </FONT></SPAN><=
/DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D666414621-27102009><FONT col=
or=3D#0000ff   size=3D2 face=3DArial>regards, vy73</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D666414621-27102009><FONT col=
or=3D#0000ff   size=3D2 face=3DArial>Marco</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D666414621-27102009><FONT col=
or=3D#0000ff   size=3D2 face=3DArial>DD7PC, JN49ax</FONT></SPAN></DIV>=
</SPAN><BR>
<DIV dir=3Dltr lang=3Den-us class=3DOutlookMessageHeader align=3Dleft>
<HR tabIndex=3D-1>
<FONT size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><B>From:</B> owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshe=
ep.org=20
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <B>On Behalf Of=20
</B>Graham<BR><B>Sent:</B> 27 October 2009 22:39<BR><B>To:</B>=20
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Throb -2- beac=
on 503.000=20
<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Report&nbsp; from Gary , that he&nbsp=
; is&nbsp;=20
getting&nbsp; 100% decode with&nbsp; Multipsk&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; and&nb=
sp;=20
slightly less&nbsp; using Fldigi ......</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>MULTIPSK&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A   ti=
tle=3D"http://f6cte.free.fr/index_anglais.htm&#10;CTRL + Click to foll=
ow link"   href=3D"http://f6cte.free.fr/index_anglais.htm">http://f6ct=
e.free.fr/index_anglais.htm</A>&nbsp;=20
&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:g8f=
zk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailto=
:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:28 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mail=
to:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000 </DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; THROB-2-&nbsp; Beacon&n=
bsp;&nbsp;=20
503.000 khz centre&nbsp; frequency </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>TX set&nbsp; 502.000 USB</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Audio&nbsp; 1000 Hz cent frequency </=
FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Repeat time 60&nbsp; seconds&nbsp; </=
FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>RX&nbsp; 'ON'&nbsp; during cycle tx=
 'off'=20
&nbsp;time </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Reports / observations&nbsp;&nbsp; </=
FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx&nbsp; Graham</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G0NBD - IO83LK </FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><BR=
><BR>
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Thanx Henny i hope a next contact with you.
=20
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F4DTL  Nicolas JN18FP

RX : Icom IC7400
Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010
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=20
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LF,
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<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px"><FONT     style=
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Can someone please point me to any CCIR or similar graphs (preferably on the
internet) showing the attenuation with distance expected on groundwave and
skywave at 500kHz?

73s
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Can someone please point me to any CCIR or similar graphs (preferably on=
 the internet) showing the attenuation with distance expected on groundwav=
e and skywave at 500kHz? <br><br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br clear=3D"all"><br>-=
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Hi LF,

SM6BGP also good signal seen here in UK at IO83qo 2200utc & most of evenin=
g
subject to QSB.

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.


2009/10/30 Michael Oexner <michael.oexner@web.de>

> Hi Paul-Henrik,
>
>
> > Hello LF
>
> > 501.4kHz, 20091030 2100UTC:
>
> > Just receiving SM6BGP in JO67IK. Seems to be in becaon mode CW +
> > QRSS.
>
> > Good signal on 1 x 1 metre square loop with homemade 2 x 2N5109 loop
> > amplifier.
>
> > New callsign for me on this band, good luck with the operation.
>
> SM6BGP is also making it to my QTH JN49bf at 2121 UTC.
> Receiving him on Perseus and mini-whip.
>
> Screenshot attached.
>
>
> --
> vy 73 + gd DX,
>
> Michael
>
>
> RX: ICOM R75, SDR-IQ, Perseus
> Antenna: Wellbrook ALA 1530, Mini-Whip
> Location: Roschbach, Germany N 49=B015' E 8=B007' / Locator JN49BF
>
> ENDBH & NANDBH editor
>
> http://ndbchangeblog.blogspot.com
> http://lwca.org/miscdocs/oexner/2009NDBinfo.zip

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Hi LF,<div><br></div><div>SM6BGP also good signal seen here in UK at IO83q=
o 2200utc &amp; most of evening subject to QSB.</div><div><br></div><div>G=
ary - G4WGT - IO83qo.</div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10=
/30 Michael Oexner <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michael.oexner@=
web.de">michael.oexner@web.de</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Hi Paul-Henrik,<br>
<br>
<br>
&gt; Hello LF<br>
<br>
&gt; 501.4kHz, 20091030 2100UTC:<br>
<br>
&gt; Just receiving SM6BGP in JO67IK. Seems to be in becaon mode CW +<br>
&gt; QRSS.<br>
<br>
&gt; Good signal on 1 x 1 metre square loop with homemade 2 x 2N5109 loop<=
br>
&gt; amplifier.<br>
<br>
&gt; New callsign for me on this band, good luck with the operation.<br>
<br>
SM6BGP is also making it to my QTH JN49bf at 2121 UTC.<br>
Receiving him on Perseus and mini-whip.<br>
<br>
Screenshot attached.<br>
<br>
<br>
--<br>
vy 73 + gd DX,<br>
<br>
Michael<br>
<br>
<br>
RX: ICOM R75, SDR-IQ, Perseus<br>
Antenna: Wellbrook ALA 1530, Mini-Whip<br>
Location: Roschbach, Germany N 49=B015&#39; E 8=B007&#39; / Locator JN49BF=
<br>
<br>
ENDBH &amp; NANDBH editor<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://ndbchangeblog.blogspot.com" target=3D"_blank">http://ndb=
changeblog.blogspot.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://lwca.org/miscdocs/oexner/2009NDBinfo.zip" target=3D"_bla=
nk">http://lwca.org/miscdocs/oexner/2009NDBinfo.zip</a></blockquote></div>=
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Hello LF!
I just see very good signal of SO5AS. FRQ =3D 137.700

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Hello LF!<br>I just see very good signal of SO5AS. FRQ =3D 137.700<br><br>=
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Hello Gerhard/DK6NI!
I wonder whether I forgot to acknowledge your report
on signals of Oct. 6th. If so, I apologize!
So thank you very much. I do hope to meet=20
you on 500 kHz some time in the future.
73
Niels/OZ8NJ+

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  Hello Finbar, Niels, Mal, Hallo LF / MF;

  =20

  Received following calls on MF (501.7 kHz) in CW-Mode:

  =20

  ON8NJ,            Niels:               5 5 9;

  EI0CF,              Finbar:              3 3 9; but 100% readable!

  G3KEV             Mal:                 4 4 9

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  vy 73 de Gerhard  //  DK6NI  (JN59LN)

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello Gerhard/DK6NI!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I wonder whether I forgot to acknowle=
dge your=20
report</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>on signals of Oct. 6th. If so, I=20
apologize!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So thank you very much. I do hope to=
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</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>you on 500 kHz some time in the=20
future.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Niels/OZ8NJ+</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV     style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color:=
 black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dbeckmann.erlangen@freenet.de     href=3D"mailto:beckmann.=
erlangen@freenet.de">Beckmann, Gerhard</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@=
blacksheep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_l=
f_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=3Dg3kevmal@talkt=
alk.net     href=3D"mailto:g3kevmal@talktalk.net">'mal hamilton'</A>=
 ; <A     title=3Dniels@oz8nj.dk href=3D"mailto:niels@oz8nj.dk">niels@=
oz8nj.dk</A> ; <A     title=3Dbeachwood@eircom.net href=3D"mailto:beac=
hwood@eircom.net">'Finbar'</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 06, 20=
09 10:22=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: AW: MF ACTY / Re=
ports from=20
  DK6NI</DIV>
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=
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 Finbar, Niels,=20
  Mal, <st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">Hallo</st1:PersonName> LF /=20
  MF;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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 lang=3DEN-GB     style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY:=
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  Niels:&nbsp;=20
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  Finbar:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  3 3 9; but 100% readable!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=
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Hi Richard,
Good audible signal just up the road here in Lancashire. SpecLab shows your
signal about 20db over noise, Rx S meter shows 3 S points over noise. Image
attached.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.


2009/10/12 Richard Newstead <g3cwi@btconnect.com>

> As the title says. Reports welcome. EIRP about 100mW.
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Hi Richard,<div><br></div><div>Good audible signal just up the road here=
 in Lancashire. SpecLab shows your signal about 20db over noise, Rx S mete=
r shows 3 S points over noise. Image attached.</div><div><br></div><div>73=
</div>
<div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.</div><div><br><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote">2009/10/12 Richard Newstead <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:g3cwi@btconnect.com">g3cwi@btconnect.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc=
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As the title says. Reports welcome. EIRP about 100mW.<br>
<br>
73<br>
<br>
Richard<br>
G3CWI<br>
<br>
IO83wg<br>
<br>
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Mal
Strong copy your 600m signal audio 56 !
Marcin SQ2BXI
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> Now looking 137.7
> mal/g3kev
>=20
> ----- Original Message -----=20
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> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 5:45 PM
> Subject: LF: Re: Re: SP2KDS
>=20
>=20
> > Hi Mal
> > OK Mal, I search your signal on 500kHz.
> > Vy 73!
> > Marcin SQ2BXI
> >
> > Marcin
> > Can u work xband I will TX 502.57 qrs3 and I will QSX 137.7
> > Let me know
> > de mal/g3kev
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Marcin
> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 4:04 PM
> > Subject: LF: SP2KDS
> >
> >
> > Hi LF!
> > Station SP2KDS will be work today,
> > Operation in QRSS will start from 19:00 UTC on 137.700kHz (QRRS3) and
> > 137,778kHz (QRSS60).
> > Vy 73!
> > Marcin SQ2BXI
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> > Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.9/2426 - Release Date: 10/09=
/09
> > 18:43:00
> >
> >
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Hi  Paul-Henrik, Michael, Nicolas, Marcin, LF,
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Hi Graham, LF,

Sorry if this message has arrived before, just had a glitch with e-mail
software.

Copying your THROB2 transmission very well here but only about 35 miles
away.

I am running FLdigi & MultiPSK software together & it looks like MultiPSK
has the upper hand. It would interesting to have a comparison with a weaker
signal.

Below are the same seven lines from both software decoders.


FLdigi
THE QUICK BROWN FOK JUMPED OVER THE LAZVY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TVLTING
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 01234567898G0NBD TESTING
THE QUICK BROWB FOKBJUMPVD OVER THE LAZEY MOON 012345A78O G7BZD TVSTIDG
THE QUICK BROWN FOK JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 012345678,PG0NBD TVLTPDF
7HE.QU8CY BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THV LAZEY MOOBPV1I3456785 G0NZCBTVLT NG
THE QUICK BROWN FOK JSMOED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 01234O5789 G0FBD TESTIAG
7HEQQU8CY BROWN FOX JUMPED OVVR THVGLRZVB MOON O123RO67)6GG0NZDGTVLJUFF

MultiPSK
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTING
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTING
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTING
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTING
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTING
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTING
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTING

73,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo

2009/10/27 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>

>  Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency
>
> TX set  502.000 USB
> Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency
>
> Repeat time 60  seconds
>
> RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'  time
>
> Reports / observations
>
> Tnx  Graham
>
> G0NBD - IO83LK
>
>
>

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<div>Hi Graham, LF,</div><div><br></div><div>Sorry if this message has arr=
ived before, just had a glitch with e-mail software.</div><div><br></div><=
div>Copying your THROB2 transmission very well here but only about 35 mile=
s away.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I am running FLdigi &amp; MultiPSK software together=
 &amp; it looks like MultiPSK has the upper hand. It would interesting to=
 have a comparison with a weaker signal.</div><div><br></div><div>Below ar=
e the same seven lines from both software decoders.</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>FLdigi</div><div>THE QUICK BROWN FOK JU=
MPED OVER THE LAZVY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TVLTING</div><div>THE QUICK BROW=
N FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 01234567898G0NBD TESTING</div><div>THE QU=
ICK BROWB FOKBJUMPVD OVER THE LAZEY MOON 012345A78O G7BZD TVSTIDG</div>
<div>THE QUICK BROWN FOK JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 012345678,PG0NBD TVLTP=
DF</div><div>7HE.QU8CY BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THV LAZEY MOOBPV1I3456785 G0N=
ZCBTVLT NG</div><div>THE QUICK BROWN FOK JSMOED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 01234O=
5789 G0FBD TESTIAG</div>
<div>7HEQQU8CY BROWN FOX JUMPED OVVR THVGLRZVB MOON O123RO67)6GG0NZDGTVLJU=
FF</div><div><br></div><div>MultiPSK</div><div>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED=
 OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTING</div><div>THE QUICK BROWN FO=
X JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTING</div>
<div>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTI=
NG</div><div>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0N=
BD TESTING</div><div>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 012345=
6789 G0NBD TESTING</div>
<div>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTI=
NG</div><div>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0N=
BD TESTING</div><div><br></div><div>73,</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4=
WGT - IO83qo</div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/27 Graham <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk</a>&gt;</=
span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">




<div style=3D"padding-left:10px;padding-right:10px;padding-top:15px" name=
=3D"Compose message area">
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Running=A0 THROB-2-=A0 Beacon=A0=A0=
=20
503.000 khz centre=A0 frequency </font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">TX set=A0 502.000 USB</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Audio=A0 1000 Hz cent frequency </fon=
t></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Repeat time 60=A0 seconds=A0 </font><=
/div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">RX=A0 &#39;ON&#39;=A0 during cycle tx=
 &#39;off&#39;=20
=A0time </font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Reports / observations=A0=A0 </font><=
/div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Tnx=A0 Graham</font></div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">G0NBD - IO83LK </font>=A0</div>
<br><br></div>
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Hi Jean-Pierre
Thanks for capture Jean-Pierre
--
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI


Hello Marcin an all ,

Good copy of  SP2KDS last night  ( see picture )

73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

Marcin a =E9crit :
> Hi LF!
> Station SP2KDS will be work today,
> Operation in QRSS will start from 19:00 UTC on 137.700kHz (QRRS3) an=
d
> 137,778kHz (QRSS60).
> Vy 73!
> Marcin SQ2BXI
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Tu Nicolas,
best 73s
henny cpm
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  Hello Henny,good luck for the russian's grabbers.


  F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP

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  Ant: miniwhip PA0RDT




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Best DX still only 69kms John, but I live in a state of perpetual optimism
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Roger G3XBM

2009/10/15 John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>

>
>
> Roger Lapthorn wrote:
>
>> This evening and overnight I shall be running my little 500kHz WSPR beacon
>> in its "original" state (ERP around 6uW) before I start mods to the TX and
>> the antenna, hopefully resulting in stronger signals.
>>
>
> I'm game for a try, looking now and will leave it running overnight.
> Already got G7NKS!
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> John
> GM4SLV
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Best DX still only 69kms John, but I live in a state of perpetual optimism=
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This evening and overnight I shall be running my little 500kHz WSPR beacon=
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in its &quot;original&quot; state (ERP around 6uW) before I start mods to=
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the antenna, hopefully resulting in stronger signals.<br>
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I&#39;m game for a try, looking now and will leave it running overnight.=
 Already got G7NKS!<br>
<br>
Good luck,<br>
<br>
John<br>
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Hello Rik, LF

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Hello Graham,

 

first small steps in success.

Decoding you in Thorb-2 !

But QRN is terrible this evening !!!!!!

 

vy 73 de Gerhard // DK6NI

 

==============

 

CQ 5V CQ DE G0NBT0NBD G0Q D

CQ CQ CQ D0 G0NYD VGNBD G0NBD 

.SL G.BHI3MHOTMDIL.C5A  G0NBD@HOTMAS5.COM

 

 

 

  _____  

Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham
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Betreff: LF: Throb -2- Beacon running on 503.000 center frequency

 

Throb 2 beacon on 503.000  

 

running  :  fldigi , throb mode -2- center  frequency  503.000 Khz 

 

TX  set USB , Rx 'on during  60 second tx pause ,

 

Interested to  see  how the  mode prints / recovers  in the  noise / qsb  

 

Reports welcome ,

 

Tnx - Graham

G0NBD

 

 


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lo Graham,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:=
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ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>fir=
st small steps in
success&#8230;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dec=
oding you in Thorb-2 !<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>But=
 QRN is terrible this
evening !!!!!!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:=
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ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>vy=
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ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>=3D=
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ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span=
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ld'>CQ 5V CQ
DE G0NBT0NBD G0Q D<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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D0 G0NYD VGNBD G0NBD <o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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ont-weight:bold'>.SL
G.BHI3MHOTMDIL.C5A&nbsp; G0NBD@HOTMAS5.COM<o:p></o:p></span></font></b=
></p>

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ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:=
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ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:=
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an"><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;</s=
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</span></font></div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Von:</span></font=
></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:Tahoma'> owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@black=
sheep.org</st1:PersonName> [mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">r=
sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName>] <b><span style=3D'font-w=
eight:bold'>Im Auftrag von </span></b>Graham<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Mittwoch, 7.=
 Oktober
2009 19:52<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:s=
t=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> LF: Throb -2-=
 Beacon
running on 503.000 center frequency</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Throb 2 beacon on 503.000&nbsp; </span>=
</font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>running&nbsp; :&nbsp; fldigi , throb mo=
de -2- center&nbsp;
frequency&nbsp; 503.000 Khz </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>TX &nbsp;set USB , Rx 'on during&nbsp;=
 60 second tx pause ,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Interested to&nbsp; see&nbsp; how the&n=
bsp; mode prints /
recovers &nbsp;in the&nbsp; noise / qsb&nbsp; </span></font><o:p></o:p=
></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Reports welcome</span></font>&nbsp;<fon=
t size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Ar=
ial'>,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Tnx - Graham</span></font><o:p></o:p></=
p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>G0NBD</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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ITU terms and definitions:

amateur service:  A radiocommunication service for the purpose of =20
self-training, intercommunication and technical investigations carried =20
out by amateurs, that is, by duly authorized persons interested in =20
radio technique solely with a personal aim and without pecuniary =20
interest.ITU

As you can see intercommunication ("2 x WAY COMMUNICATION ie QSO =20
MODE") is only one of the things amateur radio is about.
And in my humble opinion far less important than self-training and =20
technical investigations.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>:

> I always thought amateur radio was about 2 x WAY COMMUNICATION ie QSO MO=
DE,
> otherwise it is BROADCAST and SWL mode.
> This is a strange  OBSERVATION
> G3KEV
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Johan H. Bodin" <jh.bodin@telia.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 6:47 PM
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>
>>
>> mal hamilton wrote:
>>> Try QSO mode. Beacons only generate QRM for QSO operators.
>>
>> And vice versa...
>>
>> Johan SM6LKM
>>
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Tu,LUBOS,
Best 73s
Henny pa3cpm.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 3:36 PM
  Subject: LF: PA3CPM


  Hello Henny, LF!
  I just see your QRSS10 signal on 137.710.

  Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Tu,LUBOS,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Best 73s</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Henny pa3cpm.</FONT></DIV>
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os OK2BVG</A>=20
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=20
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Hi Graham,

100% copy here.

TQUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTING
 .L.NKC3T H5

SNR was 6dB as indicated by FLDIGI-SW.


73
Clemens
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  Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000 


  Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency 

  TX set  502.000 USB
  Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency 

  Repeat time 60  seconds  

  RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'  time 

  Reports / observations   

  Tnx  Graham

  G0NBD - IO83LK  





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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>SNR was 6dB as indicated by FLDIGI-SW=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73<BR>Clemens<BR>DL4RAJ</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Running&nbsp; THROB-2-&nbsp; Beacon=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tnx&nbsp; Graham</FONT></DIV>
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       2009-10-25 18:00   G4JNT   0.503850   +12   0   IO90iv   0.2   DL4RAJ   JN68kj   1055 
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Hi John, LF,
Thanks for the report, I was testing new 136kHz loading coil & modified
matching transformer.

Results were very promising with 3 Amps antenna current & estimated 250mW
ERP, the best so far.

73,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.


2009/10/4 John RABSON <john.rabson@numeo.fr>

> At 1500z.
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Hi John, LF,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for the report, I was testing new=
 136kHz loading coil &amp; modified matching transformer.</div><div><br></=
div><div>Results were very promising with 3 Amps antenna current &amp; est=
imated 250mW ERP, the best so far.</div>
<div><br></div><div>73,</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.</d=
iv><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/4 John RABSON <span dir=
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/a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">At 1500z.<br>
<br>
F5VLF<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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Hi Willem
Willem thank you very much for the very good visual control ... 137740hz
is as good as our qso on 6 October on 160m ... the skip is 667km ... I hope 
again one qso on Topband ... and another control on 137 khz
73 s willen Dear friend .. thank you again.
Claude F8BOJ ...JN16WA
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> Gm. claude fb signal in jo22mb
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X band data qso ? =20

Running at the  moment  and will try later  tonight=20
PSK31=20

TX    503.000  psk31 ...
RX   QRG  503.000 Khz   and  3858  KHz=20

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Hello Graham,

 

sorry, no decoding until yet. Only some "fragments" to see on waterfall..

Condx seem to be not too good this evening.

Andy's WSPR-beacon is also coming only about -24 dB this evening.

But I will monitor MF for the next two hours or so..

 

Best 73 de Gerhard  // DK6NI

 

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Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham
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Betreff: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000 

 

Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency 

 

TX set  502.000 USB

Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency 

 

Repeat time 60  seconds  

 

RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'  time 

 

Reports / observations   

 

Tnx  Graham

 

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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> LF: Throb -2-=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
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2009/10/4 Claude Berthebaud <f8boj@club-internet.fr>

>  hi Valerio..and LF
> Many thanks for the qso Valerio...ur MM and MMM..
> good sunday
> Claude F8boj JN16WA
>

Thank you Claude, the performances of my antenna are not the same as in the
past because of trees sinking a lot of power....

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<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/4 Claude Berthebaud <span dir=
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<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">hi Valerio..and LF </font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Many thanks for the qso Valerio...ur=
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MMM..</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">good sunday</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Claude F8boj JN16WA</font></div></div=
>
</blockquote></div><br>Thank you Claude, the performances of my antenna ar=
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br><br>CUAGN and &#39;73<br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>IK5ZPV<br>

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Perfectly good signal in Stockport, Richard (on a small loop)


>I have a CW beacon running on 501.7kHz. EIRP about 100mW. Reports very 
> welcome. It will be on until morning.
> 
> 73
> 
> Richard
> G3CWI


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Hello Paul and Jay:
Thanks for the reports - I didn't pick a very good evening! However I 
have reason to believe the antenna and the transmitter are working OK so 
I will be trying again.

Regards

Peter, G3LDO
> Hello Peter, Jay, LF
>
> I had the radio tuned to 501.1kHz for a couple of hours last night but found the
> signal to be weakish for a close to legal limit ERP UK station under normal/good
> conditions. The signal was very stable with no deep QSB over the period I
> followed it.
>
> I know it is impossible to make a proper estimation like this, just wanted to
> add my reception result. Perhaps something wasn't working as intended/announced
> or then it was just condx changing for the worse after a good period lasting
> several days.
>
>
> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
> Vaasa / KP03SD
>
>
> Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:
>
>   
>> Peter
>>
>> Sorry...nothing seen. T storms over Atlantic generating some pretty good
>> static levels.
>>
>> Jay
>>
>>
>>     
>
>
>
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>   



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OK Brian, thanks for the info. Yes, I realise the efficiency will be=
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Thanks, 73,
Chris, G4AYT.

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Hi Walter, LF!
Your beacon WSPR signal:
1958 -26  2.6   0.503899  0 DI2AG JN59 27
2020 -25  2.4   0.503899  0 DI2AG JN59 27
2024 -23  2.5   0.503899  0 DI2AG JN59 27
--
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI


DI2AG is now in WSPR. TX QRG 505.090, Dial 503.590. Pwr 0.5W ERP.
Please listen to my beacon.

73   Walter    DI2AG / DJ2LF

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Just seen Rik's decode and now this!!!!!

 2009-10-17 19:14  G3XBM  0.503936  -26  0  JO02dg  0.001  GM4SLV  IP90gg
 896  354
This is staggering!!!

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/10/17 Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>

> Roger,
>
> I got a positive decode at 19:04 UTC, stake is now at 337km
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
> ________________________________________
> Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [
> owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] namens John P-G [
> gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk]
> Verzonden: zaterdag 17 oktober 2009 19:40
> Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Onderwerp: Re: LF: Better still again on 500kHz QRPp WSPR
>
> Roger Lapthorn wrote:
> > 2009-10-17 16:04  G3XBM  0.503920  -25  0  JO02dg  0.001  G0KTN
> > IO81ti 210  242 210kms - brilliant!!! Thanks G0KTN.
> >
> > 73s Roger G3XBM
> >
>
> Let's see if you can manage some REAL DX!
>
> I'm watching, and will keep a lookout through the night.
>
> John
> GM4SLV
>



-- 
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G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088

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Just seen Rik&#39;s decode and now this!!!!!<br><br><table><tbody><tr><td=
 align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A02009-10-17 19:14=A0</font></td><td al=
ign=3D"left"><font size=3D"2">=A0G3XBM=A0</font></td><td align=3D"right"><=
font size=3D"2">=A00.503936=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A0-26=A0</font></td><td align=3D"rig=
ht"><font size=3D"2">=A00=A0</font></td><td align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2=
">=A0JO02dg=A0</font></td><td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A00.001=A0=
</font></td><td align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2">=A0GM4SLV=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2">=A0IP90gg=A0</font></td><td align=3D"r=
ight"><font size=3D"2">=A0896=A0</font></td><td align=3D"right"><font size=
=3D"2">=A0354=A0</font></td></tr></tbody></table><br>This is staggering!!!=
<br><br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/17 Rik Strobbe <span dir=3D"ltr">&l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be">Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.=
be</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-lef=
t: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left:=
 1ex;">
Roger,<br>
<br>
I got a positive decode at 19:04 UTC, stake is now at 337km<br>
<br>
73, Rik =A0ON7YD - OR7T<br>
________________________________________<br>
Van: <a href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">owner-rsgb_lf_g=
roup@blacksheep.org</a> [<a href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.=
org">owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>] namens John P-G [<a href=3D"m=
ailto:gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk">gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk</a>]<br=
>

Verzonden: zaterdag 17 oktober 2009 19:40<br>
Aan: <a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksh=
eep.org</a><br>
Onderwerp: Re: LF: Better still again on 500kHz QRPp WSPR<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
Roger Lapthorn wrote:<br>
&gt; 2009-10-17 16:04 =A0G3XBM =A00.503920 =A0-25 =A00 =A0JO02dg =A00.001=
 =A0G0KTN<br>
&gt; IO81ti 210 =A0242 210kms - brilliant!!! Thanks G0KTN.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 73s Roger G3XBM<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
Let&#39;s see if you can manage some REAL DX!<br>
<br>
I&#39;m watching, and will keep a lookout through the night.<br>
<br>
John<br>
GM4SLV<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>----------=
---------------------------------------------------<br><a href=3D"http://g=
3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"h=
ttp://www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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VAC can cause timing problems inteh conversion of one sampling rate to
another as it crosses the Virtual Audio backplane.

I use cheap 'headphone dongles'  to add additional soundcards for the SDR
then cross-patch the audio leads as necessary.    That way timing issues=
 due
to poor sample rate conversion are removes, leaving just frequency
innaccuracies which are hardly ever a problem.

The only downside is that many of the low cost units (=C2=A35 from Ebay,=
 for
example) only have a mono microphone input, meaning they can't be used wit=
h
I/Q inputs from Softrockks or similar.   However, the headphone O/P is
stereo, but you need to be aware that the headphone ground usually sits at=
 a
few volts positive so needs to be isolated to avoid damage.

I'vew used many of these modules, sometimes building them into equipment=
 to
give a simple USB audio interface, and having the USB's 5V supply to play
with as well.

Andy
www.g4jnt.com

this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny state


2009/10/28 Horst St=C3=B6cker <horst.stoecker@web.de>

> to Lubos (and anyone who may be interested):
> Did you ever hear of a software named "virtual audio cable"? For example
> you can send your SDR-signal to the virtual Soundcard. From that you can
> decode THROB or what ever. So you do not need a second computer for
> decoding. The speed of the computer who has to mange both must be higher=
, of
> course.
> Horst DO1KHS
>
> > -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: "Lubos OK2BVG" <bvgbob@hotmail.com>
> > Gesendet: 27.10.09 22:51:54
> > An: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> > Betreff: RE: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000
>
> Hello Graham, LF!
> > Sorry, but I use my computer together with SDR-IQ as a LF receiver
> > and I haven=C5=BDt got the other PC for decoding THROB packets. But yo=
ur
> > signal is nice!
> >
> > Lubos, OK2BVG
> >
> > From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk
> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> > Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:34:27 +0000
> > Subject: Re: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000
> >
> > Tnx Lubos
> >
> > Are you able to decode any of the signal ???
> >
> > I use > http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html
> >
> > Tnx - Graham ..
> >
> >  *From:*Lubos OK2BVG
> >  *Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:05 PM
> >  *To:*rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> >  *Subject:* RE: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000
> >
> > Hello Graham, LF!
> > I see your beacon=C5=BDs packets very well.
> >
> > 73!
> >
> > Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
> > From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk
> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> > Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:28:12 +0000
> > Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000
> >
> > Running THROB-2- Beacon 503.000 khz centre frequency
> >
> > TX set 502.000 USB
> > Audio 1000 Hz cent frequency
> >
> > Repeat time 60 seconds
> >
> > RX 'ON' during cycle tx 'off' time
> >
> > Reports / observations
> >
> > Tnx Graham
> >
> > G0NBD - IO83LK
> >
> > Windows 7: Kter=C3=BD po=C3=A8=C3=ADta=C3=A8 je pro v=C3=A1s ten prav=
=C3=BD? Dal=C2=B9=C3=AD informace.
> >
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> > Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.34/2462 - Release Date: 10/
> > 27/09 07:38:00
> >
> >
>  > Windows 7: Kter=C3=BD po=C3=A8=C3=ADta=C3=A8 je pro v=C3=A1s ten prav=
=C3=BD? Dal=C2=B9=C3=AD informace.
>
>
> _______________________________________________________________
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<div>VAC can cause timing problems inteh conversion of one sampling rate=
 to another as it crosses the Virtual Audio backplane.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>I use cheap &#39;headphone dongles&#39;=C2=A0=C2=A0to add=C2=A0additi=
onal soundcards for the SDR then cross-patch the audio leads as necessary.=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 That way timing issues due to poor sample rate conversi=
on are removes, leaving just frequency innaccuracies which are hardly ever=
 a problem.</div>

<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>The only downside is that many of the low cost units (=C2=A35 from Eb=
ay, for example) only have a mono microphone input, meaning they can&#39;t=
 be used with I/Q inputs from Softrockks or similar.=C2=A0=C2=A0 However,=
 the headphone O/P is stereo, but you need to be aware that the headphone=
 ground usually sits at a few volts positive so needs to be isolated to av=
oid damage.</div>

<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>I&#39;vew used many of these modules, sometimes building them into eq=
uipment to give a simple USB audio interface, and having the USB&#39;s 5V=
 supply to play with as well.</div>
<div><br clear=3D"all">Andy<br><a href=3D"http://www.g4jnt.com">www.g4jnt.=
com</a><br><br>this email has been scanned for political correctness by th=
e nanny state<br><br><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/28 Horst St=C3=B6cker <span dir=3D"ltr"=
>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:horst.stoecker@web.de">horst.stoecker@web.de</a>&gt=
;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px=
 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
<div class=3D"im">to Lubos (and anyone who may be interested):<br>Did you=
 ever hear of a software named &quot;virtual audio cable&quot;? For exampl=
e you can send your SDR-signal to the virtual Soundcard. From that you can=
 decode THROB or what ever. So you do not need a second computer for decod=
ing. The speed of the computer who has to mange both must be higher, of co=
urse.<br>
Horst DO1KHS<br><br>&gt; -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Nachricht-----<br>&gt; Vo=
n: &quot;Lubos OK2BVG&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bvgbob@hotmail.com">bvgb=
ob@hotmail.com</a>&gt;<br>&gt; Gesendet: 27.10.09 22:51:54<br></div>&gt;=
 An: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@bla=
cksheep.org</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Betreff: RE: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>Hello Graham, LF!<br>&gt; Sorry, but I use my comput=
er together with SDR-IQ as a LF receiver<br></div>&gt; and I haven=C5=BDt=
 got the other PC for decoding THROB packets. But your<br>
<div class=3D"im">&gt; signal is nice!<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Lubos, OK2BVG<br>&g=
t;<br>&gt; From: <a href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">g8fzk@g8fzk.fs=
net.co.uk</a><br></div>
<div class=3D"im">&gt; To: <a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org"=
>rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a><br></div>
<div class=3D"im">&gt; Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:34:27 +0000<br></div>
<div class=3D"im">&gt; Subject: Re: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000<br>&gt;<b=
r></div>
<div class=3D"im">&gt; Tnx Lubos<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Are you able to decode an=
y of the signal ???<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I use &gt; <a href=3D"http://www.w1hkj=
.com/Fldigi.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html</a><b=
r>&gt;<br>
&gt; Tnx - Graham ..<br>&gt;<br>&gt; =C2=A0*From:*Lubos OK2BVG<br></div>&g=
t; =C2=A0*Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:05 PM<br>
<div class=3D"im">&gt; =C2=A0*To:*<a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blackshe=
ep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a><br>&gt; =C2=A0*Subject:* RE: LF:=
 Throb -2- beacon 503.000<br>&gt;<br></div>&gt; Hello Graham, LF!<br>&gt;=
 I see your beacon=C5=BDs packets very well.<br>

<div class=3D"im">&gt;<br>&gt; 73!<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<b=
r>&gt; From: <a href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.=
co.uk</a><br></div>
<div class=3D"im">&gt; To: <a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org"=
>rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a><br></div>
<div class=3D"im">&gt; Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:28:12 +0000<br></div>
<div class=3D"im">&gt; Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000<br>&gt;<br>&g=
t; Running THROB-2- Beacon 503.000 khz centre frequency<br>&gt;<br>&gt; TX=
 set 502.000 USB<br>&gt; Audio 1000 Hz cent frequency<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Repe=
at time 60 seconds<br>
&gt;<br>&gt; RX &#39;ON&#39; during cycle tx &#39;off&#39; time<br>&gt;<br=
>&gt; Reports / observations<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Tnx Graham<br>&gt;<br>&gt; G0=
NBD - IO83LK<br>&gt;<br></div>&gt; Windows 7: Kter=C3=BD po=C3=A8=C3=ADta=
=C3=A8 je pro v=C3=A1s ten prav=C3=BD? Dal=C2=B9=C3=AD informace.<br>

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<div>
<div></div>
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Hi Roman, LF,
Roman RW3ADB wrote :-
How many 'W' from G4WGT WSPR?

The ERP using WSPR tonight is 50mW.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.


2009/10/17 Roman RW3ADB <rw3adb@rambler.ru>

> * John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> [Sat, 17 Oct 2009 19:27:01
> +0000]:
>
>> Roger Lapthorn wrote:
>> > Just seen Rik's decode and now this!!!!!
>> >
>> >  2009-10-17 19:14  G3XBM  0.503936  -26  0  JO02dg  0.001  GM4SLV
>> IP90gg
>> >  896  354
>> > This is staggering!!!
>> >
>>
>> And not a fluke:
>>
>>  Hi LF!
> How many 'W' from G4WGT WSPR?
>
> Roman
>
>
>  1924 -26  2.9   0.503936 -1 G3XBM JO02 0
>>
>> A second decode!
>>
>> Nice.... :-)
>>
>> John
>> GM4SLV
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Roman RW3ADB.
>
>

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Hi Roman, LF,<div><br></div><div>Roman RW3ADB wrote :-</div><div>How many=
 &#39;W&#39; from G4WGT WSPR?</div><div><br></div><div>The ERP using WSPR=
 tonight is 50mW.</div><div><br></div><div>73</div><div><br></div><div>Gar=
y - G4WGT - IO83qo.</div>
<div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/17 Roman RW3ADB <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rw3adb@rambler.ru">rw3adb@rambler.ru</a>&gt=
;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;b=
order-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
* John P-G &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk" target=3D"=
_blank">gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk</a>&gt; [Sat, 17 Oct 2009 19:27:01=
 +0000]:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Roger Lapthorn wrote:<br>
&gt; Just seen Rik&#39;s decode and now this!!!!!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =A02009-10-17 19:14 =A0G3XBM =A00.503936 =A0-26 =A00 =A0JO02dg =A00.0=
01 =A0GM4SLV<br>
IP90gg<br>
&gt; =A0896 =A0354<br>
&gt; This is staggering!!!<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
And not a fluke:<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
Hi LF!<br>
How many &#39;W&#39; from G4WGT WSPR?<br>
<br>
Roman<br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
1924 -26 =A02.9 =A0 0.503936 -1 G3XBM JO02 0<br>
<br>
A second decode!<br>
<br>
Nice.... :-)<br>
<br>
John<br>
GM4SLV<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
--<br><font color=3D"#888888">
Roman RW3ADB.<br>
<br>
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Hi LF!
Station SP2KDS will be work today,
Operation in QRSS will start from 19:00 UTC on 137.700kHz (QRRS3) and=
 137,778kHz (QRSS60).
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI

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Dear all,

audible reception 569 of G3LDO in QRSS on 501,1 kHz, RST 569 in eastern
Bavaria, JN68GN around 23.00 UTC, not later.

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB




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Hi Richard.
I am located in Luton Bedfordshire, locator IO91TV

73
Ken
M0KHW


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> Ken wrote:
>> To all LF,s
>> Sunday October 4th, I will be on 502.00 at 10.00 UTC, 100mW hand keyed 
>> cw.
>>  73
>> Ken
>>  M0KHW.
> Where are you located ken?
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> 73
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> Richard
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Dear Piotr, LF
Thanks for capture Piotr.

A teraz b=C4=99dzie po polsku. :-)
Dzi=C4=99kuj=C4=99 (tym razem po polsku) za obrazek z naszym widmem.=
 Ciesz=C4=99 si=C4=99 bardzo
=C5=BCe nas =C5=82adnie odbiera=C5=82e=C5=9B!
Warunki by=C5=82y wczoraj na 136kHz fatalne, odbierali=C5=9Bmy tylko=
 SO5AS. Za to
hucza=C5=82o pasmo 500kHz! Jak pewnie widzia=C5=82e=C5=9B Mala G3KEV=
 odbierali=C5=9Bmy na ucho
na S6 !
W pi=C4=85tek by=C5=82y zdecydowanie lepsze warunki na LF, widzieli=C5=
=9Bmy si=C4=99 nawet u
Andreya RN3AGC na QRRS 3.
Do zobaczenia na spectrum!
Marcin SQ2BXI




> czesc Marcin, ( bedzie po polsku  :)  )
> dosyc pozno wlaczylem sprzet  jednakze udalo mi sie odebrac twoj syg=
nal
> na 137 khz
> wyjatkowo nie mialem dzis zaklocen  no i  odebralem "KDS"  o 2250 ut=
c -
> obrazek w zalaczniku
> vfo mam usawione na 137.780  zas BFO na  600 Hz  sygnal jest na 602=
 a
> ze  bfo  jest od gory wiec wychodzi
> na 137.778 kHz  podstawa czasu w spectranie tak dobrana zeby qrss60
> wygladalo sensownie  reszta obrazkow juz jutro bezposrednim
> mail'em
>                                 serdecznie pozdrawiam, Piotr, sq7mpj
> qth: Lodz /jo91rs/
>
>


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We do appreciate Dr. Moritz!  I'd refer to him as an "elmer" but I suspect I
am somewhat older than him.   He got me from -20dB up to about 0dB

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
Sent: 12 October 2009 10:39
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: 503.6kHz Test

 

Hi Jim, LF,

 

Thank you for the plot & your observations. I have downloaded the plot to
study later.

 

I had not realised until after the PA FET failure on Saturday night that the
LPF toroids were very hot & need to be upgraded if I am going to run that
level of power again (5 watts ERP about 4 Amps antenna current). I must also
check the matching transformer toroids at the base of the antenna if that is
getting hot also, I may look into the alternative matching (tapped coil)
which you provided documentation & a spreadsheet for a while ago.

 

Keep up the good work, I am sure that we all appreciate your input, time &
efforts devoted to the hobby.

 

Cheers,

 

Gary - G4WGT.

 

 

 

 

2009/10/11 James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>

Dear Gary, LF Group,

This is what the signal looks like for about 11/2 hours up to 2200utc. The
red signal is G4WGT, the yellow one is G4JNT's WSPR beacon. The blue line is
the noise level scaled to about 300Hz bandwidth, to give an idea of the
audible strength as a CW signal. The plot settings are not ideal to show
variations in signal level - there are actually short periods where the
signal fades to inaudibility that don't show up here, but it gives a
reasonable idea.

G4WGT I think must be mainly sky wave here so presumably the fading is due
to  different sky-wave paths.  G4JNT is a very stable ground wave signal
here during the day, so I imagine the fading here is due to the combination
of ground wave and sky wave.



Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 

 


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>I had not realised until after the PA FET fai=
lure on Saturday night
that the LPF toroids were very hot &amp; need to be upgraded if I am=
 going to
run that level of power again (5 watts ERP about 4 Amps antenna curren=
t). I
must also check the matching transformer toroids at the base of the an=
tenna if
that is getting hot also, I may look into the alternative matching (ta=
pped
coil) which you provided documentation &amp; a spreadsheet for a while=
 ago.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>Keep up the good work, I am sure that we all=
 appreciate your input,
time &amp; efforts devoted to the hobby.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>Dear Gary, LF Group,<br>
<br>
This is what the signal looks like for about 11/2 hours up to 2200utc.=
 The red
signal is G4WGT, the yellow one is G4JNT's WSPR beacon. The blue line=
 is the
noise level scaled to about 300Hz bandwidth, to give an idea of the au=
dible
strength as a CW signal. The plot settings are not ideal to show varia=
tions in
signal level - there are actually short periods where the signal fades=
 to
inaudibility that don't show up here, but it gives a reasonable idea.<=
br>
<br>
G4WGT I think must be mainly sky wave here so presumably the fading is=
 due to
&nbsp;different sky-wave paths. &nbsp;G4JNT is a very stable ground wa=
ve signal
here during the day, so I imagine the fading here is due to the combin=
ation of
ground wave and sky wave.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Paul-Henrik,

I just worked ON/F6CNI/P on 501.5, Andy gave as QTH Chimay

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Quoting Paul-Henrik <phl@netikka.fi>:

> Hello LF
>
> Not sure if I can beleive my ears but it sounds like a QSO between G3XIZ and
> ON/F6CNI/P taking place on 502.4kHz. G3XIZ is strong but I hear weak CW as if
> ON/F6CNI/P is working him on the same QRG.
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Hello Warren,
Can you start your beacon WD2XGJ a little bit earlier today?
It will be good to look here before 02.00z when "Yunost" 153 kHz local AM starting.
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73 Andrey rn3agc



> Hello Warren,
> capture at ~02.01z
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Tim,
Pleased that worked for you.

Mal (G3KEV) often operates CW or QRS 500kHz & cross band to 7MHz into the
early hours on 502.570kHz.

SK6RUD beacon on 500.000kHz.

G4JNT multi-mode beacon on 503.700kHz, like GB3RAL beacons on 5MHz, but at
0004, 0019, 0034 & 0049 minutes past each hour.

G4JNT WSPR beacon on 503.850kHz fairly regular but random.

Usually several EU beacons around 505.100 to 505.200kHz.

Other operators appear randomly.

I hope that helps Tim.

Cheers,

Gary - G4WGT.



2009/10/3 tim hague <m0afj@dsl.pipex.com>

> Gary - G4WGT wrote:
>
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>> Point the cursor at the right side of the Argo display & click the right
>> mouse button.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Gary - G4WGT.
>>
>> 2009/10/3 tim hague <m0afj@dsl.pipex.com <mailto:m0afj@dsl.pipex.com>>
>>
>>    I'm trying to set up Argo, I can get copy on the vertical
>>    waterfall but not the horizontal, any tips chaps?
>>
>>    Tim M0AFJ
>>
>>
>>  Thanks Gary, all working fine now, got good copy of Mal. I had the wrong
> frequency set on the RH slider..
> Is there a set frequency for QRS?, is it worth leaving the Rx on overnight?
>
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Tim,<div><br></div><div>Pleased that worked for you.</div><div><br></div><=
div>Mal (G3KEV) often operates CW or QRS 500kHz &amp; cross band to 7MHz=
 into the early hours on 502.570kHz.</div><div><br></div><div>SK6RUD beaco=
n on 500.000kHz.</div>
<div><br></div><div>G4JNT multi-mode beacon on 503.700kHz, like GB3RAL bea=
cons on 5MHz, but at 0004, 0019, 0034 &amp; 0049 minutes past each hour.</=
div><div><br></div><div>G4JNT WSPR beacon on 503.850kHz fairly regular but=
 random.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Usually several EU beacons around 505.100 to 505.200kH=
z.</div><div><br></div><div>Other operators appear randomly.</div><div><br=
></div><div>I hope that helps Tim.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div>
<div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT.</div><div><br></div><div><br><br><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/3 tim hague <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:m0afj@dsl.pipex.com">m0afj@dsl.pipex.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc=
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Gary - G4WGT wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"im">
Hi Tim,<br>
<br>
Point the cursor at the right side of the Argo display &amp; click the rig=
ht mouse button.<br>
<br>
73<br>
<br>
Gary - G4WGT.<br>
<br></div>
2009/10/3 tim hague &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:m0afj@dsl.pipex.com" target=3D"_=
blank">m0afj@dsl.pipex.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:m0afj@dsl.pipe=
x.com" target=3D"_blank">m0afj@dsl.pipex.com</a>&gt;&gt;<div class=3D"im">=
<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0I&#39;m trying to set up Argo, I can get copy on the vertical<br>
 =A0 =A0waterfall but not the horizontal, any tips chaps?<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0Tim M0AFJ<br>
<br>
<br>
</div></blockquote>
Thanks Gary, all working fine now, got good copy of Mal. I had the wrong=
 frequency set on the RH slider..<br>
Is there a set frequency for QRS?, is it worth leaving the Rx on overnight=
?<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br></div>

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Hallo Walter,

please check the frequency readout in your WSPR program.
Frequency is entered in MHz not in kHz.
You have entered 502.301534 MHz instead of 0.502301534 MHz.
Therefore you'll find your loggings in the database not under LF/MF
but only under "All".
It's exactly the same mistake I've made some time ago.:-)

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  Ufb reception of G0NBD, G4JNT, OR7T hr in JN59no. See datebase at 21:42UTC.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hallo Walter,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>please&nbsp;check the&nbsp;frequency=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Frequency is entered in MHz not in=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You have entered&nbsp;502.301534&nbsp=
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of 0.502301534&nbsp;MHz.</FONT></DIV>
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not under LF/MF</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>but only under "All".</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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The Wasilla/Palmer Alaska receiver continues to be on +24hrs  502.4 di=
al WSPR and QRSS 3 window 504 and below - it will stay that way for th=
e next 10/14 days or so. The equipment will upload captures and I thin=
k QRSS Argo is visible on http://kl1x.com/dx00000.jpg

The K9AY is set for "omnidirectional"

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<DIV><FONT face=3DCalibri>The Wasilla/Palmer Alaska receiver continues=
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+24hrs&nbsp; 502.4 dial WSPR and QRSS 3 window 504 and below - it will=
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way for the next 10/14 days or so. The equipment will upload captures=
 and I=20
think QRSS Argo is visible on <A   title=3D"http://kl1x.com/dx00000.jp=
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Many thanx Jeff BWO and Claude BOJ for this news contacts with french LF  
stations.Stong both.
Good afternoon and good LF DX
 
F4DTL  Nicolas JN18FP
_http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/) 

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Yes Paul,

The qso has just ended , Chris was getting a good  signal from f6nci  ..
nice way to operate on 500 , drive over the  boarder !

G ..

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> Hello LF
>
> Not sure if I can beleive my ears but it sounds like a QSO between G3XIZ 
> and
> ON/F6CNI/P taking place on 502.4kHz. G3XIZ is strong but I hear weak CW as 
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On 22 Oct 2009 at 10:28, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org wrote:

> This was where G3YXM's site originally was. You can now find it at
> http://wireless.org.uk/
> 
> I am sure Dave will comment in due course, I would assume all the stuff
> on the old site is now on the current one.
> 

And looking at Dave's site at http://www.wireless.org.uk/links.htm I 
see he has an out of date link to my pages. Having moved away from BT 
Internet all my @btinternet.com pages will now come up 'not found, my 
site can be accessed as per my signature. That is progress, and I am 
sure there are a whole host of invalid links from the early days of LF 
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73 Dave G3YMC

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Hello all,

Too lazy to make variometer? LF/MF-related items rarely appear on eBay=
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Thanks Graham. Will be on again today in between CQWW on 10m.

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/10/25 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>

>  Only  the  one  decode Roger  at  261 kmt
>
> G ..
>
>
>
>   2009-10-24 16:58   G3XBM   0.503917   -28   0   JO02dg   0.001   G0NBD
>  IO83   261   302   2009-10-24 22:42   G3XBM   0.503923   -26   0
>  JO02dg   0.001   G4FDD   IO93kx   212   334
>
>
>  *From:* Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 24, 2009 10:50 PM
> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> *Subject:* Re: LF: Re: 500kHz 1mW WSPR beaconing
>
> Clemens (et al),
>
> Just restarted the 500kHz WSPR beacon (have been out for a few hours) on
> 0.503910 +/-20Hz.
>
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM
>
> 2009/10/24 Clemens Paul <cpaul@gmx.net>
>
>>  Roger,
>>
>> what is your exact dial qrg?
>> Are you on air at present?
>> I'll watch out for your signal.
>>
>> 73
>> Clemens
>> DL4RAJ
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>
>> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 24, 2009 5:55 PM
>> *Subject:* LF: 500kHz 1mW WSPR beaconing
>>
>> This will be active periodically over the weekend. It would be nice to get
>> a few new reporters spotting me.
>>
>> 73s
>> Roger G3XBM
>>
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Thanks Graham. Will be on again today in between CQWW on 10m.<br><br>73s<b=
r>Roger G3XBM<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/25 Graham <span di=
r=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet=
.co.uk</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
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<div style=3D"padding-left: 10px; padding-right: 10px; padding-top: 15px;"=
 name=3D"Compose message area">
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Only=A0 the=A0 one=A0 decode Roger=A0=
=20
at=A0 261 kmt </font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">G .. </font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
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<table>
  <tbody>
  <tr>
    <td align=3D"right">2009-10-24 16:58=A0</td>
    <td align=3D"left">=A0G3XBM=A0</td>
    <td align=3D"right">=A00.503917=A0</td>
    <td align=3D"right">=A0-28=A0</td>
    <td align=3D"right">=A00=A0</td>
    <td align=3D"left">=A0JO02dg=A0</td>
    <td align=3D"right">=A00.001=A0</td>
    <td align=3D"left">=A0G0NBD=A0</td>
    <td align=3D"left">=A0IO83=A0</td>
    <td align=3D"right">=A0261=A0</td>
    <td align=3D"right">=A0302=A0</td></tr>
  <tr>
    <td align=3D"right">=A02009-10-24 22:42=A0</td>
    <td align=3D"left">=A0G3XBM=A0</td>
    <td align=3D"right">=A00.503923=A0</td>
    <td align=3D"right">=A0-26=A0</td>
    <td align=3D"right">=A00=A0</td>
    <td align=3D"left">=A0JO02dg=A0</td>
    <td align=3D"right">=A00.001=A0</td>
    <td align=3D"left">=A0G4FDD=A0</td>
    <td align=3D"left">=A0IO93kx=A0</td>
    <td align=3D"right">=A0212=A0</td>
    <td align=3D"right">=A0334=A0</td></tr></tbody></table></font></div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Tahoma; font-style: normal; font-variant: norma=
l; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-ad=
just: none; font-stretch: normal;">
<div><br></div>
<div style=3D"background: rgb(245, 245, 245) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -mo=
z-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-backgroun=
d-inline-policy: continuous;">
<div><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"mailto:rogerlapthorn@gmail.com  CTRL + Click=
 to follow link" href=3D"mailto:rogerlapthorn@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank"=
>Roger Lapthorn</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 24, 2009 10:50 PM</div><div class=3D"i=
m">
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org  CTRL + Cl=
ick to follow link" href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D=
"_blank">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>=20
</div>
</div><div><b>Subject:</b> Re: LF: Re: 500kHz 1mW WSPR beaconing</div></di=
v></div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">
<div><br></div>Clemens (et al),<br><br>Just restarted the 500kHz WSPR beac=
on=20
(have been out for a few hours) on 0.503910 +/-20Hz.<br><br>73s<br>Roger=
=20
G3XBM<br><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/24 Clemens Paul <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:cpaul@gmx.net" target=3D"_blank">cpaul@gmx.net</a>&gt;</s=
pan><br>
<blockquote style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0p=
t 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class=3D"gmail_quote">
  <div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
  <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Roger,</font></div>
  <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
  <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">what is your exact dial qrg?</font>=
</div>
  <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Are you on air at present?</font></=
div>
  <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">I&#39;ll watch out for your signal.=
</font></div>
  <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
  <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">73<br>Clemens<br>DL4RAJ</font></div=
>
  <blockquote style=3D"border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-left:=
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    <div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: no=
rmal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size=
-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">-----=20
    Original Message ----- </div>
    <div style=3D"background: rgb(228, 228, 228) none repeat scroll 0% 0%;=
 font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight=
: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; -moz-background-clip: bord=
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uous; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">
<b>From:</b>=20
    <a title=3D"rogerlapthorn@gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:rogerlapthorn@gmai=
l.com" target=3D"_blank">Roger Lapthorn</a> </div>
    <div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: no=
rmal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size=
-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b>=20
    <a title=3D"rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group=
@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a> </div>
    <div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: no=
rmal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size=
-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b>=20
    Saturday, October 24, 2009 5:55 PM</div>
    <div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: no=
rmal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size=
-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b>=20
    LF: 500kHz 1mW WSPR beaconing</div>
    <div><br></div>This will be active periodically over the weekend. It=
 would=20
    be nice to get a few new reporters spotting me.<br><br>73s<br>Roger G3=
XBM<br clear=3D"all"><br>--=20
    <br>-------------------------------------------------------------<br><=
a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://g3xbm-q=
rp.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk" target=3D"_blan=
k">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678=20
    =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>
    <p></p>
    <hr>

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<br>--=20
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ttp://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =A0=20
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</div></div><p></p><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">
<hr>

<p></p><br>No virus found in this incoming message.<br>Checked by AVG -=20
<a href=3D"http://www.avg.com" target=3D"_blank">www.avg.com</a> <br></div=
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Date: 10/24/09 14:31:00<br>
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Long haul towards Eu on 137 looks good my overnight with DCF39 some S9+10=
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500kHz  produced=20

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2016 -29 1.0 0.503294 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 19th Oct 09 -=20

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This hasnt been uploaded yet as the internet, or internot as I call here=
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Ive been running rx on 500 up in KL7 remotely but nothing seen yet althoug=
h I have some work to do on the antennae as Im not best pleased with its=
 performance and can squeeze a better s/n out of it. Ill get to do that th=
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Good day/eve/mng/afto<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Long haul towards Eu on 137 looks good my overnight with DCF39 some S9+10=
 on a quiet band even past sunup. QRN was less than previous nights as the=
 upper level disturbance moved away and the Typhoon to the South was a bit=
 less noisy.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
500kHz&nbsp; produced <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
2016 -29 1.0 0.503294 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 19th Oct 09 - <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
This hasnt been uploaded yet as the internet, or internot as I call here=
 it, failed sometime during the wee hours.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Ive been running rx on 500 up in KL7 remotely&nbsp;but nothing seen yet al=
though I have some work to do on the antennae as Im not best pleased with=
 its performance and can squeeze a better s/n out of it. Ill get to do tha=
t this coming weekend when I back there, thats if the snow stays away, and=
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559-579 in Bracknell IO91PJ with the usual 500kHz slow QSB Richard.

73 Dave G3YMC

On 12 Oct 2009 at 18:42, Richard Newstead wrote:

> As the title says. Reports welcome. EIRP about 100mW.
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Hello Gary,

Though this is a nice site for thunderstorm watchers, it does not cover
the main source of wintertime QRN: the Mediterranean!

And yes at the distance it is still causing a lot of trouble.

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DI2AG with a good signal in JN35sa:

2014   6  3.9   0.505075  0 DI2AG JN59 27
2024  12  3.6   0.505075  0 DI2AG JN59 27
2028  13  3.3   0.505075  0 DI2AG JN59 27
2040  12  3.4   0.505075  0 DI2AG JN59 27

I suspect a bug in WSPR 1.1.2 ... the s/n was not +12 dB in 2400 Hz 
:-) that only happens when I close the receiver's BW at few tens of 
Hz (30 Hz currently). The WSPR signal is very clear, but the program 
fails the s/n measure.

23m long wire, Perseus SDR RX.

73 - Marco IK1ODO

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DI2AG with a good signal in JN35sa:<br><br>
2014&nbsp;&nbsp; 6&nbsp; 3.9&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.505075&nbsp; 0 DI2AG JN59
27<br>
2024&nbsp; 12&nbsp; 3.6&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.505075&nbsp; 0 DI2AG JN59 27<br>
2028&nbsp; 13&nbsp; 3.3&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.505075&nbsp; 0 DI2AG JN59 27<br>
2040&nbsp; 12&nbsp; 3.4&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.505075&nbsp; 0 DI2AG JN59
27<br><br>
I suspect a bug in WSPR 1.1.2 ... the s/n was <i>not +</i>12 dB in 2400
Hz :-) that only happens when I close the receiver's BW at few tens of Hz
(30 Hz currently). The WSPR signal is very clear, but the program fails
the s/n measure.<br><br>
23m long wire, Perseus SDR RX.<br><br>
73 - Marco IK1ODO<br>
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Hi Claude,
Just captured another from today at 1420utc, good daylight signal.

73,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo

2009/10/2 Claude Berthebaud <f8boj@club-internet.fr>

>  hi Gary
> many thanks for the capture
> good evening
> Claude F8boj JN16WA
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
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> *Sent:* Friday, October 02, 2009 3:25 PM
> *Subject:* LF: 137kHz - F8BOJ
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> Hi LF,
> Captured last night (2308utc - 01/10/2009).
>
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo
>
>

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Hi Claude,<div><br></div><div>Just captured another from today at 1420utc,=
 good daylight signal.</div><div><br></div><div>73,</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/2 Claud=
e Berthebaud <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:f8boj@club-internet.f=
r">f8boj@club-internet.fr</a>&gt;</span><br>
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<div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">hi Gary </font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">many thanks for the capture</font></d=
iv>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">good evening</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Claude F8boj JN16WA</font></div>
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  <div style=3D"font:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
  <div style=3D"background:#e4e4e4;font:10pt arial"><b>From:</b>=20
  <a title=3D"g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk" href=3D"mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk" tar=
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  G4WGT</a> </div>
  <div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org" href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank"=
>Rsgb_Lf_Group</a> </div>
  <div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 02, 2009 3:2=
5=20
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  <div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> LF: 137kHz - F8BOJ</div>
  <div><br></div>Hi LF,
  <div><br></div>
  <div>Captured last night (2308utc - 01/10/2009).</div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div>73</div>
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  <div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo</div></blockquote></div>
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Hi Warren,LF
Capture XGJ
Henny cpm
best 73s

Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
XGJ 08-10.jpg

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Warren,LF</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Capture XGJ</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het 
volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:<BR>XGJ 
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Dear Jim, David,



I have been successfully using a variant of the second method, which works=
 by comparing received voltages of a strong distant transmitter (eg. DCF39=
) from the transmit antenna under test, versus a small nonresonant loop of=
 known geometrical area. The induced loop voltage is



=C2=A0Uloop =3D H * omega * aloop =3D E * aloop * 2 pi / lambda.



The effective height of the TX antenna then is



=C2=A0htx =3D Utx / E =3D Utx / Uloop * aloop * 2 pi / lambda,



and the radiation resistance



=C2=A0Rrad =3D 1579 ohm * (htx / lambda)**2



One advantage is that electrical near field shielding effects (eg. by tree=
s) are actually included in the voltage ratio, because the reference measu=
rement is based on magnetic field and thus hardly affected by moderately=
 conducting objects in the vicinity. As the effective height is only weakl=
y frequency dependent, the measurement can be done at a different frequenc=
y, depending on signal availibility.=20



Absolute receiver calibration is not required for the voltage ratio, but=
 you may have to apply a correction for loading of the tx antenna source=
 impedance by the receiver impedance:



=C2=A0Utx =3D Utx_loaded * (Rant + Rrec) / Rrec



I also found that I had to detune or disconnect the big antenna=C2=A0durin=
g the loop measurement.



Best regards,
Markus (DF6NM)


-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20
Von: James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Verschickt: Mi., 7. Okt. 2009, 21:57
Them
a: Re: LF: Re Propagation report



Dear David, LF Group,=C2=A0
=C2=A0
There are basically two ways of determining ERP, briefly:=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Method 1 is to calculate the radiation resistance (Rrad) of your antenna,=
 which can be done using various text-book formulae, or using antenna simu=
lation software like EZNEC or similar. Then you measure the RF current flo=
wing in the antenna (Iant). The ERP is then Iant^2 x Rrad x 1.8 (1.8 is th=
e directivity of electrically small vertical or loop antennas, which in pr=
actice is what all amateur 136kHz antennas are).=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Method 2 is to measure the field strength some km from the antenna. The ER=
P is then (E x d)^2 /49, where E is the field strength, d distance in metr=
es. This requires a calibrated antenna and measuring receiver, so is more=
 complicated to do.=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Method 1 is simpler to do, but yields ERP results that tend to be lower th=
an those obtained by method 2. This is thought to be due to various combin=
ed environmental effects on the antenna, which are not accounted for in th=
e simple calculation. So to get a more accurate and definitive figure, you=
 need to do method 2, but as far as compliance with licence conditions is=
 concerned, method 1 is a conservative way of checking.=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Good luck in your efforts!=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Cheers, Jim Moritz=C2=A0
73 de M0BMU=C2=A0
=C2=A0
----- Original Message ----- but From: "David Weinreich" <David.Weinreich@=
globalstar.com>=C2=A0
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>=C2=A0
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 8:17 PM=C2=A0
Subject
: Re: LF: Re Propagation report=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Peter,=C2=A0
=C2=A0
As an interested observer from the other side of the pond, how do you dete=
rmine that you are close to the ERP limit?? I'd be interested in knowing=
 as I am trying to do some pro-bono work for the ARRL on getting use of 13=
7 kHz here in the USA.=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Tnx & 73,=C2=A0
=C2=A0
David Weinreich=C2=A0
WA2VUJ/3=C2=A0
=C2=A0
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<div>Dear Jim, David,</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>I have been successfully using a variant of the second method, which=
 works by comparing received voltages of a strong distant transmitter (eg.=
 DCF39) from the transmit antenna under test, versus a small nonresonant=
 loop of known geometrical area. The induced loop voltage is</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>&nbsp;Uloop =3D H * omega * aloop =3D E * aloop * 2 pi / lambda.</div=
>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>The effective height of the TX antenna then is</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>&nbsp;htx =3D Utx / E =3D Utx / Uloop * aloop * 2 pi / lambda,</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>and the radiation resistance</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>&nbsp;Rrad =3D 1579 ohm * (htx / lambda)**2</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>One advantage is that electrical near field shielding effects (eg. by=
 trees) are actually included in the voltage ratio, because the reference=
 measurement is based on magnetic field and thus hardly affected by modera=
tely conducting objects in the vicinity. As the effective height is only=
 weakly frequency dependent, the measurement can be done at a different fr=
equency, depending on signal availibility. </div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>Absolute receiver calibration is not required for the voltage ratio,=
 but you may have to apply a correction for loading of the tx antenna sour=
ce impedance by the receiver impedance:</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>&nbsp;Utx =3D Utx_loaded * (Rant + Rrec) / Rrec</div>


<div>
&nbsp;</div>


<div>I also found that I had to detune or disconnect the big antenna&nbsp;=
during the loop measurement.</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>Best regards,<br>
Markus (DF6NM)<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung----- <br>
Von: James Moritz &lt;james.moritz@btopenworld.com&gt;<br>
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>
Verschickt: Mi., 7. Okt. 2009, 21:57<br>
Thema: Re: LF: Re Propagation report<br>
<br>
</div>


<div id=3DAOLMsgPart_0_3fe63294-060e-4b98-b6dd-eb47cd6aff7d style=3D"FONT-=
SIZE: 12px; MARGIN: 0px; COLOR: #000; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial,=
 Sans-Serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff">Dear David, LF Group,&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
There are basically two ways of determining ERP, briefly:&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Method 1 is to calculate the radiation resistance (Rrad) of your antenna,=
 which can be done using various text-book formulae, or using antenna simu=
lation software like EZNEC or similar. Then you measure the RF current flo=
wing in the antenna (Iant). The ERP is then Iant^2 x Rrad x 1.8 (1.8 is th=
e directivity of electrically small vertical or loop antennas, which in pr=
actice is what all amateur 136kHz antennas are).&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Method 2 is to measure the field strength some km from the antenna. The ER=
P is then (E x d)^2 /49, where E is the field strength, d distance in metr=
es. This requires a calibrated antenna and measuring receiver, so is more=
 complicated to do.&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Method 1 is simpler to do, but yields ERP results that tend to be lower th=
an those obtained by method 2. This is thought to be due to=20
various combined environmental effects on the antenna, which are not accou=
nted for in the simple calculation. So to get a more accurate and definiti=
ve figure, you need to do method 2, but as far as compliance with licence=
 conditions is concerned, method 1 is a conservative way of checking.&nbsp=
;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Good luck in your efforts!&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Cheers, Jim Moritz&nbsp;<br>
73 de M0BMU&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
----- Original Message ----- but From: "David Weinreich" &lt;<A href=3D"ma=
ilto:David.Weinreich@globalstar.com">David.Weinreich@globalstar.com</A>&gt=
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To: &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</A>&gt;&nbsp;<br>
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 8:17 PM&nbsp;<br>
Subject: Re: LF: Re Propagation report&nbsp;<br>
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Peter,&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
As an interested observer from the other side of the pond, how do you dete=
rmine that you are close to the ERP limit?? I'd be interested in knowing=
 as I am trying to do some pro-bono work for the ARRL on getting use of 13=
7 kHz here in the USA.&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Tnx &amp; 73,&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
David Weinreich&nbsp;<br>
WA2VUJ/3&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
</div>
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Hello Garry, LF!

What's a signal on the 504.7 kHz visible onto G4WGT grabber at moment?

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Well we had an early evening storm and thereafter the local clouds were st=
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All seems to work OK here as well.
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Ken wrote:
> To all LF,s
> Sunday October 4th, I will be on 502.00 at 10.00 UTC, 100mW hand keyed cw.
>  
> 73
> Ken
>  
> M0KHW.
Where are you located ken?

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Hello Graham,
since a couple of minutes i have also success to decode your Thorb transmi=
ssion:

 QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEYQMOONQUUA3EO6789 GPNBD TESTINGOAH1IM=
1JRGCM5VI8CX (WBGCSP,UZJA3X,G3DUBSNL0,)V2BVMF2QPN13OLVMO511IQC 4BBJMU.MBNO=
S/A2,0I2B,J2LP8=3D2,IBJ8715NMG.O,1U5O6)D7AGHE 19ICK RNWN FOI VUJPEDF5VER=
 .BE AZTM MOO .0.23A566789 G0NBD TVFTINGS28U90K9RT8HDJP1TDH9FNI)2N.D7RP8QS=
 809M2LHDA1K,G,5.GTFT'IVIAJJPTC1 O8 .5LKGQ7N G8JP2KBO/TM06C6T,Q3TORC64GJR4=
LMLG3R18KMTNN5SOTHQ NUICK BROWN FOR JUJPQD 5VT2MTHV LAGTQ MO...

I use MultiPSK 4.14 (http://f6cte.free.fr/)

thanks for signal
regards, vy73
Marco
DD7PC, JN49ax

________________________________
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@black=
sheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
Sent: 27 October 2009 22:39
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000

Report  from Gary , that he  is  getting  100% decode with  Multipsk    an=
d  slightly less  using Fldigi ......

MULTIPSK        >>>>>        http://f6cte.free.fr/index_anglais.htm  <<<<<=
<<<<<<

From: Graham<mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:28 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000

Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency

TX set  502.000 USB
Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency

Repeat time 60  seconds

RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'  time

Reports / observations

Tnx  Graham

G0NBD - IO83LK



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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D666414621-27102009><FONT face=3D=
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D666414621-27102009><FONT face=3D=
Arial  color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>since a couple of minutes i have also succ=
ess to decode=20
your Thorb transmission:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D666414621-27102009><FONT face=3D=
Arial  color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D666414621-27102009><STRONG><FONT=
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LAZEYQMOON</FONT>QUUA3EO6789 <FONT color=3D#ff0000>GPNBD=20
TESTING</FONT>OAH1IM1JRGCM5VI8CX=20
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FOR</FONT> JUJPQD 5VT2MTHV LAGTQ MO<SPAN  class=3D666414621-27102009>...</=
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<P dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D666414621-27102009><FONT face=3DAr=
ial  color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I use MultiPSK 4.14 (</FONT></SPAN><A  title=
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</FONT></FONT></FONT><BR></P>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D666414621-27102009><FONT face=3D=
Arial  color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>thanks for signal </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D666414621-27102009><FONT face=3D=
Arial  color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>regards, vy73</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D666414621-27102009><FONT face=3D=
Arial  color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Marco</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D666414621-27102009><FONT face=3D=
Arial  color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>DD7PC, JN49ax</FONT></SPAN></DIV></SPAN><B=
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<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o=
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <B>On Behalf Of=20
</B>Graham<BR><B>Sent:</B> 27 October 2009 22:39<BR><B>To:</B>=20
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Throb -2- beacon=
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<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Report&nbsp; from Gary , that he&nbsp; is=
&nbsp;=20
getting&nbsp; 100% decode with&nbsp; Multipsk&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; and&nbsp;=
=20
slightly less&nbsp; using Fldigi ......</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MULTIPSK&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A  title=
=3D"http://f6cte.free.fr/index_anglais.htm&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link=
"  href=3D"http://f6cte.free.fr/index_anglais.htm">http://f6cte.free.fr/in=
dex_anglais.htm</A>&nbsp;=20
&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A  title=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8=
fzk.fsnet.co.uk&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"  href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8f=
zk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:28 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org  href=3D"mailto:rs=
gb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000 </DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Running&nbsp; THROB-2-&nbsp; Beacon&nbsp;=
&nbsp;=20
503.000 khz centre&nbsp; frequency </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>TX set&nbsp; 502.000 USB</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Audio&nbsp; 1000 Hz cent frequency </FONT=
></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Repeat time 60&nbsp; seconds&nbsp; </FONT=
></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RX&nbsp; 'ON'&nbsp; during cycle tx 'off'=
=20
&nbsp;time </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Reports / observations&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT=
></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tnx&nbsp; Graham</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>G0NBD - IO83LK </FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><BR><BR=
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Wolf ,

Listed are Uk and EU  grabbers on the  Google uk500khz news  group=20

http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers

This one , 'grab2'  covers your  frequency :-

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html

If you have  or find any other   links to grabbers , please  add  to=
 the  page=20

Tnx - Graham

G0NBD




From: Wolf Ostwald=20
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 1:59 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: European "grabbers"


Hello All !

Are there any "grabber"-stations in Europe that have a real-time displ=
ay accessible via internet ?

Will start my MF-beacon DI2BJ on 505.030 kHz by tmw with regular CW.

Reports are welcome  J    73 de wolf  df2py / DI2BJ



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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Wolf ,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Listed are Uk and EU&nbsp; grabbers=
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Google uk500khz news&nbsp; group </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><A   title=3D"http://groups.google.co=
m/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"=
   href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabber=
s">http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers</A></F=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>This one , 'grab2'&nbsp; covers your&=
nbsp;=20
frequency :-</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><A   title=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co=
.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"=
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html">http://myweb.tiscal=
i.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>If you have&nbsp; or find any other&n=
bsp;&nbsp;=20
links to&nbsp;grabbers , please&nbsp; add&nbsp; to the&nbsp; page </FO=
NT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx - Graham</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G0NBD</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:df2=
py@t-online.de&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailto:df2py=
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, October 31, 2009 1:59 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&#10;=
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: European "grabbers"</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=3DEN-GB>Are there any=20
=84grabber=93-stations in <st1:place w:st=3D"on">Europe</st1:place> th=
at have a=20
real-time display accessible via internet ?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></=
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=3DEN-GB>Will start my MF-beacon=
=20
DI2BJ on 505.030 kHz by tmw with regular CW.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT><=
/P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=3DEN-GB>Reports are welcome&nbsp=
;=20
</SPAN></FONT><FONT size=3D2 face=3DWingdings><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-FA=
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DI2BJ<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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From: "Alan Melia" <alan.melia@btinternet.com>
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Hi John contact the guy at HQ who runs the Museum. I dropped in an "RSGB"
diary for 1926 which had a call book bound into it he should be in there. It
was in Arthur Gee's (G2UK) effects. I should have scanned it !!
Alan G3NYK


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An article with this title was published in The Wireless World & Radio
Review for 28 October 1922 and reprinted in June 2008 in Cave Radio &
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Does anyone know who 2ZD was?

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HI Dmitry
Thanks for the pics control's
Claude F8boj
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> Hi Claude!
> 
> Claude Berthebaud wrote:
>> Good evening ALL
>> The Beacon "BOJ" is open  QRSS60  137776.2hz
>> Good night
>> Claude F8boj JN16WA
> Dmitry
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Hi Mal
OK Mal, I search your signal on 500kHz.
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI

Marcin
Can u work xband I will TX 502.57 qrs3 and I will QSX 137.7
 Let me know
de mal/g3kev

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Hi LF!
Station SP2KDS will be work today,
Operation in QRSS will start from 19:00 UTC on 137.700kHz (QRRS3) and
137,778kHz (QRSS60).
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI




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Yes Ossi, i hope a contact with you soon.
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 =E9crit :

hallo  nicolas !
after your cq call i was  calling you, but  no answer  ,after a time i=20
leave my shake fore a time ...
your signal was   readable .
now i saw you calling me but it was to late sorry so ,
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Well, as compared to last night LF/MF is very quiet QRN wise; we had an up=
per level disturbance spinning Eastwards to my East last night and QRN was=
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Well, as compared to last night LF/MF is very quiet QRN wise; we had an up=
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Hi Horst

I've just installed one of Roelof Bakker's (PA0RDT) active mini whips=
 and it
is excellent at my QTH.  Just my view, others may have different exper=
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With best regards
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Jim
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Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS


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Hello,
now that I am happy with my selectiv level meter Praecitronic MV-62 I=
 am
looking for the best receicing antenna.
Especially I am interested in 400khz, 136kHz, 72kHz and below 22 kHz.=
 With
my 40m longwire reception is not good enough and with a frame antenna=
 of
900m copper wire it was disappointing, too..
I think, an active antenna for 0 to 500 MHz would be the best for me=
 - but I
am looking forward to any other idea.
vy73 Horst DO1KHS
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My broadband link is out of service and is unlikely to be fixed before
Monday 55th.

Meanwhile, via a lashup dialup link and a lot of cut and paste, here is a
summry of what I have received:

HB9ASB 20dB over noise about 1800z. 3/10/09.=20

M0BMU 15 to 20dB over QRN calling RU6LA at 1916z. 3/10/09.

F4DTL 20dB over QRN at 2000z. 3/10/09.

F8BOJ 40dB over QRN on 137 at 0710z. 4/10/09.

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I just worked 7 more JA stns average report 579 each way. Condx should=
 be good tonite on 500 khz for DX. Is the chinese man about for xband=
 qso
de G3KEV

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  MF condx excellent tonite, just worked JA7NI on 1820 Khz CW his sig=
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  G3KEV



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Hello Graham, LF!
I see your beacon=B4s packets very well.

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:28:12 +0000
Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000  =20








Running  THROB-2-  Beacon  =20
503.000 khz centre  frequency=20
=20
TX set  502.000 USB
Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency=20
=20
Repeat time 60  seconds =20
=20
RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'=20
 time=20
=20
Reports / observations  =20
=20
Tnx  Graham
=20
G0NBD - IO83LK =20


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Hello Graham, LF!<br>I see your beacon=B4s packets very well.<br><br>73!<b=
r><br>Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<br><hr id=3D"stopSpelling">From: g8fzk@g8fzk.f=
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 17:28:12 +0000<br>Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000   <br><br>






<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Running&nbsp; THROB-2-&nbsp; Beacon&n=
bsp;&nbsp;=20
503.000 khz centre&nbsp; frequency </font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">TX set&nbsp; 502.000 USB</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Audio&nbsp; 1000 Hz cent frequency </=
font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Repeat time 60&nbsp; seconds&nbsp; </=
font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">RX&nbsp; 'ON'&nbsp; during cycle tx=
 'off'=20
&nbsp;time </font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Reports / observations&nbsp;&nbsp; </=
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<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Tnx&nbsp; Graham</font></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">G0NBD - IO83LK </font>&nbsp;</div>
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hi LF
Beacon open 137776.20hz "boj" qrss60
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Hi Marcus,

Very interesting.  What software are you using with the sound card, please=
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On 10/10/2009 at 22:17 Marcus, PY2PLL-PY3CRX wrote:

>Hi:
>
>I've been testing the detection of Loran chains on southern hemisphere,
>using an ssb receiver and sound card app, tied to GPS PPS.
>
>Initial results can be viewed at:
>
>http://py.qsl.br/images/GRI8930.png (17923Km)
>http://py.qsl.br/images/GRI9990.png (13000 to 15000Km)
>http://py.qsl.br/images/LORAN.png (several chains)
>
>73
>Marcus Ramos
>PY3CRX/PY2PLL
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>S=E3o Bernardo do Campo - SP
>http://py.qsl.br
>
>
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Hello LF!
I see good WSPR signal of G4JNT on 503.850kHz.

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Hello LF!<br>I see good WSPR signal of G4JNT on 503.850kHz.<br><br>Lubos,=
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>Well, I can't see any reason for the non-connect from my end, I will 
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><http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/>http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/

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From: "Claude Berthebaud" <f8boj@club-internet.fr>
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Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 11:43:25 +0200
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HI Oswald and LF
good morning wald..
very good copy trong signal in 137 khz
many thanks for the qso and gud week and
Claude F8boj JN16WA

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>HI Oswald and LF</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>good morning wald..</FONT></DIV>
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Good Night Henny
Best 73=20
Claude F8boj
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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      Tnx for the grabbers,

  pa3cpm is qrt,
  best 73s to all.

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Nicolas,
Here now local QRM. But, I hope, later the aether becomes purer.

73 Andrey



Yes andrey thanx, im beaconing now on 137776 QRSS90 with 300W but the rain
modified the values of the antenna.

Regards Friend.
F4DTL Nicolas

Dans un e-mail daté du 21/10/2009 22:53:46 Paris, Madrid (heure d'été),
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Nicolas,
If there is a possibility, too try. Propagation good,  for
certain and your signal here will be visible.

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Added  PSK31  on  503.300  , will be a  -3 dB  drop in peak level when=
 in simultaneous  TX due to  tx alc action=20

503.000    throb -2-
503.300    PSK31=20

    Tnx - G ..=20


From: Graham=20
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 10:13 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: Re: LF: Throb -2- Beacon running on 503.000 center frequency


Thank you  for the  report Gerhard=20

Be interested as to your  comments on the  decode , compared to the =
 psk qso=20
as it looks like the  condx are worse ?=20

What is the  peak signal level ?

tnx - G=20



From: Graham=20
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Subject: LF: Throb -2- Beacon running on 503.000 center frequency


Throb 2 beacon on 503.000 =20

running  :  fldigi , throb mode -2- center  frequency  503.000 Khz=20

TX  set USB , Rx 'on during  60 second tx pause ,

Interested to  see  how the  mode prints / recovers  in the  noise /=
 qsb =20

Reports welcome ,

Tnx - Graham
G0NBD




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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Added&nbsp; PSK31&nbsp; on&nbsp; 503.=
300&nbsp; ,=20
will be a&nbsp; -3 dB&nbsp; drop in peak level when in simultaneous&nb=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>503.000&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;throb=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>503.300&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;PSK31=
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<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx - G .. </=
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dg8fzk@g8fzk.f=
snet.co.uk   href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 07, 2009 10:13 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mail=
to:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Throb -2- Beacon running on 503.000 cente=
r=20
frequency</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thank you&nbsp; for the&nbsp; report=
 Gerhard=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Be interested as to your&nbsp; commen=
ts on=20
the&nbsp; decode , compared to the&nbsp; psk qso </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>as it looks like the&nbsp; condx are=
 worse ?=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>What is the&nbsp; peak signal level=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>tnx - G </FONT></DIV>
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snet.co.uk   href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 07, 2009 6:52 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mail=
to:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: Throb -2- Beacon running on 503.000 center=20
frequency</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Throb 2 beacon on 503.000&nbsp; </FON=
T></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>running&nbsp; :&nbsp; </FONT><FONT si=
ze=3D2   face=3DArial>fldigi , throb mode -2- center&nbsp; frequency&n=
bsp; 503.000 Khz=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>TX &nbsp;set USB , Rx 'on during&nbsp=
; 60 second tx=20
pause ,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Interested to&nbsp; see&nbsp; how the=
&nbsp; mode=20
prints / recovers &nbsp;in the&nbsp; noise / qsb&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Reports welcome</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT siz=
e=3D2   face=3DArial>,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx - Graham</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G0NBD</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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> 73
> John F5VLF
>
> *** 'crazy'?  That's nothing.  According to UK automobile regulations, the 
> Reliant Robin (a 3-wheeled vehicle with a fully enclosed fibreglass body) 
> is a motorcycle

Oh no its not   ...  Its a  motorcycle  combination .. ie  motorcycle with 
a side  car .and has 3 wheels ... with  only  one driven   . just happens to 
have a big fibreglass shell   ..... and can be  driven by the  holder of a 
full motorcycle licence ... as could the  bubble car 
.http://farm1.static.flickr.com/10/14490403_ff3d2de8dd.jpg.. and  of  course 
the  French version >>http://www.velomobile.de/interlj31a.jpg
to mention just a  few :)  oh and this  as well >> 
http://www.cartype.com/pics/6541/small/sinclair_c5_1.jpg   .... ????

G .. 





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SO5AS also visible here in JN36NU, but difficult, M at best
73 de HB9ASB

2009/10/11, Lubos OK2BVG <bvgbob@hotmail.com>:
>
> Hello LF!
> I just see very good signal of SO5AS. FRQ =3D 137.700
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG
>                  =20
> _________________________________________________________________
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Same as last time .. just  showing at B-Ham but not at Gary grabber .=
 but this time moving the  S metre on the  1778  10 dB over the  noise=
 at times=20

G ..


From: Graham=20
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 7:39 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: G0VSJ cw beacon 503.25=20


Getting a signal from G0VSJ  cw beacon on 503.25  , sig about S4 in io=
83lk
giving  qth as io82tp  .. I think was the beacon I picked up last week=
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G .=20


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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Same as last time .. just&nbsp; showi=
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but not at Gary grabber . but this time moving the&nbsp; S metre on th=
e&nbsp;=20
1778&nbsp; 10 dB over the&nbsp; noise at times </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G ..</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: G0VSJ cw beacon 503.25 </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Getting a signal from G0VSJ&nbsp; cw=
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503.25&nbsp; , sig about S4 in io83lk</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>giving&nbsp; qth as io82tp&nbsp; ..=
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Graham,

 

it is not easy to tell you real values, but I would say in comparison to
WSPR-Signals between -12 dB and -18 dB;  

also in comparison to the audibility of the Thorb-2 signal.

And I have to say, a lot of QRM / QRN this evening.

That it talking for Thorb-2 (hi)

 

vy 73 de Gerhard  //  DK6NI

 

========

 

 

  _____  

Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Oktober 2009 22:49
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: Re: LF: AW: Throb -2- beacon 503.000 

 

Thanks Gerhard ,

 

What is your opinion of the  signal strength / quality ....compared to the
recovery of the text .... ??

 

THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTING

 

 

From: Beckmann, <mailto:beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de>  Gerhard 

Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:32 PM

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 

Cc: 'Graham' <mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>  

Subject: LF: AW: Throb -2- beacon 503.000 

 

Hello Graham,

 

now first "lines of code"  (hi).

Condx seem to increase now (hopefully.)

 

THE 1UICK BROWN FOX JUMP7D OVER EHE LAZEY M63NA91K247.6788 G0NBD TESTING

 

Best 73 de Gerhard  //  DK6NI

 

============================= 

  _____  

Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Oktober 2009 18:28
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000 

 

Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency 

 

TX set  502.000 USB

Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency 

 

Repeat time 60  seconds  

 

RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'  time 

 

Reports / observations   

 

Tnx  Graham

 

G0NBD - IO83LK  

 

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-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span=
 style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a href=3D"mailto:rsgb=
_lf_group@blacksheep.org" title=3D"rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_=
lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><font size=3D2=
 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font=
-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span=
 style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a href=3D"mailto:g8fz=
k@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk" title=3D"g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">'Graham'</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font=
-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><=
span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> LF: AW:
Throb -2- beacon 503.000 <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

</div>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hello Graham,<o=
:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>now=
 first &#8222;lines of
code&#8220;&nbsp; (hi).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Con=
dx seem to increase
now (hopefully&#8230;)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span=
 lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;f=
ont-weight:bold'>THE
1UICK BROWN FOX JUMP7D OVER EHE LAZEY M63NA91K247.6788 G0NBD TESTING<o=
:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Bes=
t 73 de Gerhard&nbsp;
//&nbsp; DK6NI<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New Rom=
an"><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New Rom=
an"><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D&nbsp;</span></font><span lang=3DEN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>

</div>

</div>

<div>

<div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><fon=
t size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>

<hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter tabIndex=3D-1>

</span></font></div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Von:</span></font=
></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:Tahoma'> <a href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org"=
>owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>
[mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
</st1:PersonName>]
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Im Auftrag von </span></b>Graham<b=
r>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Dienstag, 27.=
 Oktober
2009 18:28<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b> <a href=3D"mailto:r=
sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> LF: Throb -2-=
 beacon
503.000 </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Running&nbsp; THROB-2-&nbsp; Beacon&nbs=
p;&nbsp; 503.000 khz
centre&nbsp; frequency </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>TX set&nbsp; 502.000 USB</span></font><=
o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Audio&nbsp; 1000 Hz cent frequency </sp=
an></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Repeat time 60&nbsp; seconds&nbsp; </sp=
an></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>RX&nbsp; 'ON'&nbsp; during cycle tx 'of=
f' &nbsp;time </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Reports / observations&nbsp;&nbsp; </sp=
an></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Tnx&nbsp; Graham</span></font><o:p></o:=
p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>G0NBD - IO83LK </span></font>&nbsp;<o:p=
></o:p></p>

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e=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></font></p>

<div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><fon=
t size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>

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Dear MF,
in Germany only DI2BO still has a permission for 440KHz. Normally we=
 have 505,0-505,2KHz, only beacon mode. Sorry. The 9W  is ok.
73  Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: John RABSON=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:29 AM
  Subject: LF: Re: 505kHz availability


  The following table was published in "500kHz and Cave Radio", CREGJ=
 issue 70, March 2008, p9.

  Please advise of any errors.

  73,
  F5VLF/G3PAI
  =20
        Country
       kHz
       E(I)RP
      =20
        USA
       505-514
       Up to 1200W*
      =20
        UK
       501-504
       1W
      =20
        Germany
       440, 505-505.2
       9W
      =20
        Belgium
       501-504
       5W
      =20
        Sweden
       505-505.2
       1W
      =20
        Czech Rep
       505-505.2
       1W
      =20

  * transmitter output power



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear MF,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>in Germany only DI2BO still has a per=
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  <DIV>The following table was published in "500kHz and Cave Radio",=
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  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Hi Tim,
Point the cursor at the right side of the Argo display & click the right
mouse button.

73

Gary - G4WGT.

2009/10/3 tim hague <m0afj@dsl.pipex.com>

> I'm trying to set up Argo, I can get copy on the vertical waterfall but not
> the horizontal, any tips chaps?
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Hi Tim,<div><br></div><div>Point the cursor at the right side of the Argo=
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Roger Lapthorn wrote:
> Just seen Rik's decode and now this!!!!!
> 
>  2009-10-17 19:14  G3XBM  0.503936  -26  0  JO02dg  0.001  GM4SLV  IP90gg
>  896  354
> This is staggering!!!
> 

And not a fluke:

1924 -26  2.9   0.503936 -1 G3XBM JO02 0

A second decode!

Nice.... :-)

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Dear all,

G3LDO audible 559, some QRN, in eastern Bavaria, JN68GN, on 501,1 kHz in
QRSS around 22.40 UTC.

Yesterday night I had no time to listen, sri.

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB

 


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Thanks  Gerhard DK6NI  ,For a excellent  cross band qso , IO83LK > JN5=
9LN  ..  distance of    658.1 miles=20
reports  from Gerhard rst  559  , stable with  good  print , start at=
 20:00  utc , might of been 20 mins=20
too soon as  80 mtrs was quite unstable ...till later  on ...

Running  ~  200 watts  peak carrier power to 35  ft top loaded vertica=
l , fldigi tx software=20

Interestingly, Digipan was printing better than fldigi on my 80 mtr =
 rx signal =20

73 - G ..

G0NBD=20



From: Graham=20
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X band data qso ? =20

Running at the  moment  and will try later  tonight=20
PSK31=20

TX    503.000  psk31 ...
RX   QRG  503.000 Khz   and  3858  KHz=20

tnx- Graham=20


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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks&nbsp; Gerhard DK6NI&nbsp; ,For=
 a excellent=20
&nbsp;cross band qso , IO83LK &gt;&nbsp;JN59LN&nbsp; ..&nbsp; distance=
=20
of&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>658.1 miles </=
FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>reports&nbsp; from Gerhard rst&nbsp;=
 559&nbsp; ,=20
stable with&nbsp; good&nbsp; print , start at 20:00&nbsp; utc , might=
 of been 20=20
mins </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>too soon as&nbsp; 80 mtrs was quite=
 unstable=20
...till later&nbsp; on ...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; ~&nbsp; 200 watts&nbsp;=
 peak carrier=20
power to 35&nbsp; ft top loaded vertical , fldigi tx software </FONT><=
/DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Interestingly, Digipan was printing=
 better than=20
fldigi on my 80 mtr&nbsp; rx signal &nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73 - G ..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G0NBD </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:g8f=
zk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailto=
:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 04, 2009 4:40 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&#10;=
CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=
.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: X band qso ? 503 / 3585 PSK31 </DIV></DIV></D=
IV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>X band data qso ?&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Running at the&nbsp; moment&nbsp; and=
 will try=20
later&nbsp; tonight </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>PSK31 </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>TX&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;503.000&nbs=
p; psk31=20
...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>RX&nbsp;&nbsp; QRG&nbsp; 503.000 Khz=
 &nbsp;=20
and&nbsp; 3858&nbsp; KHz </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>tnx- Graham </FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV=
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Hello Warren,LF,
Nice capture XGJ
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello Warren,LF,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Nice capture XGJ</FONT></DIV>
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Thanks for the reports of the beacon last night .. from the reports it=
 looks like the  mode , though not apparently 'in vogue' put up quite=
 a  good  show , I will paste the  results to the  uk500khz news group=
 ...=20

73 - G ,,

G3PPT   web site : http://www.lsear.freeserve.co.uk/index.html


From: Graham=20
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 11:57 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon QRT 2400=20


Beacon   QRT 2400 =20

Many thanks  for the reports  ....  interesting results=20

73

Graham ..  =20


From: Graham=20
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:28 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency=20

TX set  502.000 USB
Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency=20

Repeat time 60  seconds =20

RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'  time=20

Reports / observations  =20

Tnx  Graham

G0NBD - IO83LK =20





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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks for the reports of the beacon=
 last night ..=20
from the reports it looks like the&nbsp; mode , though not apparently=
 'in vogue'=20
put up quite a&nbsp; good&nbsp; show , I will paste the&nbsp; results=
 to=20
the&nbsp; uk500khz news group ... </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73 - G ,,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G3PPT&nbsp;&nbsp; web site&nbsp;: </F=
ONT><FONT   size=3D2 face=3DArial><A   title=3D"http://www.lsear.frees=
erve.co.uk/index.html&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"http:=
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:g8f=
zk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailto=
:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 27, 2009 11:57 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&#10;=
CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=
.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: Throb -2- beacon QRT 2400 </DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Beacon&nbsp;&nbsp; QRT 2400&nbsp; </F=
ONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Many thanks&nbsp; for the reports&nbs=
p; ....&nbsp;=20
interesting results&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Graham .. &nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dg8fzk@g8fzk.f=
snet.co.uk   href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:28 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mail=
to:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
</DIV>
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<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; THROB-2-&nbsp; Beacon&n=
bsp;&nbsp;=20
503.000 khz centre&nbsp; frequency </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>TX set&nbsp; 502.000 USB</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Audio&nbsp; 1000 Hz cent frequency </=
FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Repeat time 60&nbsp; seconds&nbsp; </=
FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>RX&nbsp; 'ON'&nbsp; during cycle tx=
 'off'=20
&nbsp;time </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Reports / observations&nbsp;&nbsp; </=
FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx&nbsp; Graham</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G0NBD - IO83LK </FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><BR=
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Chris try single ended Class-E very simple, ok they need a modicum of tuning
but have been used successfully by Mike GW4HXO and Finbar EI0CF and others
up to about 500W.  I have some notes on experiments at
http://www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk/classepa.htm
They are best operated at at least 24 volts and better at around 50, 60, or
even 75 with the right FETs.

Alan G3NYK

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Subject: LF: Re: Re: AF Amps at 136


Thanks for your comments Mal, I did wonder if such an approach was wise.
Let's see what others have to say on the matter. I also have my suspicions
about FETs in class D and the level of crud that could result.
Thanks again.
Chris, G4AYT.
  ----- Original Message -----
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  Chris
  Do  not use audio amps for RF. Build a class D or E amp and operate
trouble free. Audio amps were tried by some in the early days but never
worked properly.
  Read the horror stories of yesteryears about using audio amps for RF
applications. Buckets of burnt out FETS.
  73 De Mal/g3kev

    ----- Original Message -----
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    To: RSGB LF Group
    Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 2:13 PM
    Subject: LF: AF Amps at 136


    Hi All,
    Just started constructing TX for 136kHz, noticed Maplin do a Velleman
audio PA kit that is rated at 200W (100W RMS into 4R). OK there's no mains
transformer or heat sink, but reckon it's good value at £14.99. Point is the
specs also say the minus 3db frequency response is 3Hz / 200kHz.
    The RSGB books 'LF Today' refer to using audio amps as PAs at 136 with
'a few modifications'. Does anybody know where these modifications are
documented? I guess there's nothing major, reduce a few cap values? Remove
Zobel Network etc.?? If anyone has experience with this approach I would
appreciate some hints. Thanks.
    Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable.


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I also listened to CW QSOs between G3LDO, G3XIV and EI0CF on the eveni=
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73s all,
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mal hamilton wrote:

> Tnx Vern nw qso sq7mpj. pse call now de mal/g3kev

Dear Mal,
tnx very much for my first x-band 500kc(qrss3)/7Mhz(CW)  qso.  Of 
course, i will  also confirm  our qso via qsl card.
please  tell me whether it may  go direct or via the bureau
you will find (enclosed) the last characters of ur qrss3 transmission.-  
indeed a perfect  and strong signal here , in poland  at this moment
RX side: 1sq meter loop with a simple homemade buffer/amplifier and ft857d
TX side:  ic746pro / w3dzz
                                                          
                                                      73 de  Piotr, sq7mpj

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Dear David, LF Group,

There are basically two ways of determining ERP, briefly:

Method 1 is to calculate the radiation resistance (Rrad) of your antenna, 
which can be done using various text-book formulae, or using antenna 
simulation software like EZNEC or similar. Then you measure the RF current 
flowing in the antenna (Iant). The ERP is then Iant^2 x Rrad x 1.8 (1.8 is 
the directivity of electrically small vertical or loop antennas, which in 
practice is what all amateur 136kHz antennas are).

Method 2 is to measure the field strength some km from the antenna. The ERP 
is then (E x d)^2 /49, where E is the field strength, d distance in metres. 
This requires a calibrated antenna and measuring receiver, so is more 
complicated to do.

Method 1 is simpler to do, but yields ERP results that tend to be lower than 
those obtained by method 2. This is thought to be due to various combined 
environmental effects on the antenna, which are not accounted for in the 
simple calculation. So to get a more accurate and definitive figure, you 
need to do method 2, but as far as compliance with licence conditions is 
concerned, method 1 is a conservative way of checking.

Good luck in your efforts!

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

----- Original Message ----- 
but From: "David Weinreich" <David.Weinreich@globalstar.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re Propagation report


Peter,

As an interested observer from the other side of the pond, how do you 
determine that you are close to the ERP limit?? I'd be interested in knowing 
as I am trying to do some pro-bono work for the ARRL on getting use of 137 
kHz here in the USA.

Tnx & 73,

David Weinreich
WA2VUJ/3




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Roger=20

This happened ..

G ,,

      Timestamp Call MHz SNR Drift Grid Pwr Reporter RGrid km az=20
       2009-10-24 16:58   G3XBM   0.503917   -28   0   JO02dg   0.001=
   G0NBD   IO83   261   302 =20



From: Roger Lapthorn=20
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 4:55 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: 500kHz 1mW WSPR beaconing


This will be active periodically over the weekend. It would be nice to=
 get a few new reporters spotting me.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088



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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Roger </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>This happened ..</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G ,,</FONT></DIV>
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Roger,

this message came too late for me (already sleeping). :-)
At which time will you run your beacon again his evening?
It seems that around 22.00UTC signals from GB on 500kHz are peaking here.

73
Clemens
DL4RAJ

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Roger Lapthorn
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 10:50 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500kHz 1mW WSPR beaconing


  Clemens (et al),

  Just restarted the 500kHz WSPR beacon (have been out for a few hours) on 0.503910 +/-20Hz.

  73s
  Roger G3XBM


  2009/10/24 Clemens Paul <cpaul@gmx.net>

    Roger,

    what is your exact dial qrg?
    Are you on air at present?
    I'll watch out for your signal.

    73
    Clemens
    DL4RAJ
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Roger Lapthorn
      To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
      Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 5:55 PM
      Subject: LF: 500kHz 1mW WSPR beaconing


      This will be active periodically over the weekend. It would be nice to get a few new 
reporters spotting me.

      73s
      Roger G3XBM

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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>what is your exact dial qrg?</FON=
T></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Are you on air at present?</FONT>=
</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll watch out for your signal.</=
FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73<BR>Clemens<BR>DL4RAJ</FONT></D=
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icy: continuous"><B>From:</B>=20
      <A title=3Drogerlapthorn@gmail.com href=3D"mailto:rogerlapthorn@=
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sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org"         target=3D_blank>rsgb_lf_group@bla=
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      <DIV         style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none;=
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      LF: 500kHz 1mW WSPR beaconing</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>This will be active periodically over the weekend=
. It would=20
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      G3XBM<BR clear=3Dall><BR>--=20
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Vern
Nw active QRS3 and CW on 502.57 if that is any help.
VE1JG has often hrd me in the past.
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Hi All,
MANY thanks for all the comments and links about using AF amps. I have=
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lpful.
Vy 73,
Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent.

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Dear LF

This weekend is last day activity Special Event HF70W.
Operation in QRSS will start from 20:00 UTC on the Friday evening on=
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turaday/sunday.
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Vy 73!</FONT></DIV>
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Walter   .. there is a  description :- =20

http://www.w1hkj.com/FldigiHelp/Modes/THROBdesc.htm

G ..



From: Walter und Marianne Staubach=20
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 8:48 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


Dear Graham,
    at first thanks for the first short description. Found the "packet=
s" on the grabber. What does the abbreviation "Throb" mean and where=
 can one find a description?
73   Walter DJ2LF / DI2AG

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Graham=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 7:54 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: Re: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


  Ok Walter=20

  Well that is a good  question ! ...=20

  Its a  narrow  band  data  mode that  uses a combination of   multi=
  tones and  amplitude modulation .. the  tones relay the  data  and=
 the  amplitude modulation  provides the  syn-pulse .. so  every chara=
cter   has its ''own sync pulse''  so the  system has no  'lock up or=
  sync time'' =20

  I am using  FLDIGI  as the  tx software .........  you  need to be=
 very  close on frequency to decode=20

  Tnx - G ..


  From: Walter und Marianne Staubach=20
  Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:34 PM
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Subject: LF: Re: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


  Please help, Graham - what is THROB-2?
  73
  Walter DJ2LF / DI2AG

    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Graham=20
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
    Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:28 PM
    Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


    Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency=20

    TX set  502.000 USB
    Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency=20

    Repeat time 60  seconds =20

    RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'  time=20

    Reports / observations  =20

    Tnx  Graham

    G0NBD - IO83LK =20





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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Walter&nbsp;&nbsp; .. there is a&nbsp=
; description=20
:-&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><A   title=3D"http://www.w1hkj.com/Fl=
digiHelp/Modes/THROBdesc.htm&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=
=3D"http://www.w1hkj.com/FldigiHelp/Modes/THROBdesc.htm">http://www.w1=
hkj.com/FldigiHelp/Modes/THROBdesc.htm</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G ..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:wum=
.staubach@t-online.de&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailt=
o:wum.staubach@t-online.de">Walter und Marianne Staubach</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 27, 2009 8:48 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&#10;=
CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=
.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Re: Throb -2- beacon 503.000 </DIV></DIV>=
</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Dear Graham,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; at first thanks fo=
r the first=20
short description. Found the "packets" on the grabber. What does the=
=20
abbreviation "Throb" mean and where can one find a description?</FONT>=
</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73&nbsp;&nbsp; Walter DJ2LF / DI2AG</=
FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE   style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT:=
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV     style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color:=
 black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dg8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk     href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fs=
net.co.uk">Graham</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@=
blacksheep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_l=
f_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 27, 20=
09 7:54=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Re: Throb -2=
- beacon=20
  503.000 </DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Ok Walter </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Well that is a good&nbsp; question=
 ! ...=20
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Its a&nbsp; narrow&nbsp; band&nbsp;=
 data&nbsp;=20
  mode that&nbsp; uses a combination of&nbsp;&nbsp; multi&nbsp; tones=
 and&nbsp;=20
  amplitude modulation .. the&nbsp; tones relay the&nbsp; data&nbsp;=
 and=20
  the&nbsp; amplitude modulation&nbsp; provides the&nbsp; syn-pulse ..=
 so&nbsp;=20
  every character&nbsp;&nbsp; has its ''own sync pulse''&nbsp; so the&=
nbsp;=20
  system has no&nbsp; 'lock up or&nbsp; sync time''&nbsp; </FONT></DIV=
>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I am using&nbsp; FLDIGI&nbsp; as th=
e&nbsp; tx=20
  software .........&nbsp; you&nbsp; need to be very&nbsp; close on fr=
equency to=20
  decode </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx - G ..</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
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  <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
  <DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dwum.staubac=
h@t-online.de     href=3D"mailto:wum.staubach@t-online.de">Walter und=
 Marianne Staubach</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:34 PM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org     href=3D"=
mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=
=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: Throb -2- beacon 503.000 </DIV></DIV></=
DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Please help, Graham - what is=20
  THROB-2?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Walter DJ2LF / DI2AG</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <DIV       style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-co=
lor: black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dg8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk       href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fz=
k.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A       title=3Drsgb_l=
f_group@blacksheep.org       href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o=
rg">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 27,=
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    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Throb -2- beac=
on 503.000=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; THROB-2-&nbsp; Beac=
on&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>TX set&nbsp; 502.000 USB</FONT></=
DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Audio&nbsp; 1000 Hz cent frequenc=
y=20
</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Repeat time 60&nbsp; seconds&nbsp=
;=20
</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>RX&nbsp; 'ON'&nbsp; during cycle=
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    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Reports / observations&nbsp;&nbsp=
;=20
</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx&nbsp; Graham</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G0NBD - IO83LK=20
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IK1HSS calling CQ at 137.750 QRSS3 1330z

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Hello John ,

I copy your beacon last night (00:00>01:30utc)

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj


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A BIT LESS!!!!! at least 50% less than a class D or E, which should yi=
eld 90% with a proper design.
G3KEV

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  OK Brian, thanks for the info. Yes, I realise the efficiency will be=
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Hello Claude and all ,

I think that you want to say  22:15 UTC !
Attention , at this hour will be the sunrise in China !

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

claude Berthebaud a =E9crit :
> Good Morning LF
> The BOJ Beacon 137776.2hz Qrss60 is open from 10:15 UT=20
> good night all=20
> Claude F8boj JN16 WA
>
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I had the same problem on 500 up in KL7 at home. I ended up moving the mod=
em to the garage where the telephone line comes out of the ground and keep=
ing the ADSL loaded wiring as short as possible -  then on the telephone=
 side of the router  I connected up a pair of reasonable quality of seried=
 ADSL filters outbound for normal telephone wiring in the house. From 20=
 over noise I cant "see it" now as the big antennae has been chocked off.=
 I only use wireless around the property so it wasnt an issue.

=20

Next job is to choke off the noise from the AC power line coming out of th=
e ground - its awful.

=20

relates to MTA Palmer Alaska solutions ADSL


=20

Laurence KL 1 X
=20
> From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com
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> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:10:53 +0100
> Subject: Re: LF: MOFMT ADSL noise
>=20
> Dear Pete, Paul-Henrik,
>=20
> M0FMT wrote:
> ....> Well I can only conclude it is ADSL because it is just raising the=
=20
> noise floor it is very subtle not really identifiable like say TV LTB,=
 it's=20
> a mush...>
>=20
> I have problems with ADSL on 500kHz at my QTH - it sounds like "white no=
ise"=20
> with no audible distinctive features I can detect. The noise can be abou=
t=20
> 10 - 20dB over the band noise here over a fairly wide bandwidth in the=
 MF=20
> range. It does not seem to be a problem at 136k, perhaps because this is=
 in=20
> the guard band between upstream and downstream ADSL signals. It is easy=
 to=20
> tell if you are experiencing noise from your own ADSL connection -=20
> disconnect the incoming phone line (probably just unplugging the modem=
 from=20
> the phone socket will be enough) and there will be a reduction in noise=
=20
> level. Unfortunately, there also seems to be a significant level of simi=
lar=20
> noise here from other sources, probably my neighbors' ADSL via the overh=
ead=20
> phone lines.
>=20
> I have had some success with a noise-cancelling arrangement here, where=
 the=20
> ADSL noise is sampled using a current transformer made by passing the=20
> incoming phone line through a ferrite core, and summed with the signal=
 from=20
> loop antennas via a variable phase-shifting and gain-adjusting network,=
=20
> which is adjusted for a null in the noise. Also, moving the loop around=
 the=20
> QTH shows some positions are better than others. Actually, life is a bit=
=20
> more complicated at this particular QTH, since there also seems to be=20
> wide-band noise originating as very low-level sidebands from the local=
=20
> broadcast stations. This requires a second noise-cancelling network to=
 null=20
> noise from that direction. Also, it was necessary to insert a relay in=
=20
> series with the loading coil to disconnect the TX antenna on receive,=20
> otherwise this coupled more noise into the receiving antennas. But when=
 it=20
> is all adjusted properly, the overall noise level can be reduced in=20
> favourable directions by about 20dB, which is worth doing.
>=20
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU=20
>=20
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I had the same problem on 500 up in KL7 at home. I ended up moving the&nbs=
p;modem to the garage where the telephone line comes out of the ground and=
 keeping the ADSL loaded wiring as short as possible - &nbsp;then on the=
 telephone side of the router&nbsp;&nbsp;I connected up a pair of reasonab=
le quality of seried ADSL filters&nbsp;outbound for normal telephone wirin=
g&nbsp;in the house. From 20 over noise I cant "see&nbsp;it"&nbsp;now as=
 the big antennae has been chocked off. I only use wireless around the pro=
perty so it wasnt an issue.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Next job is to choke off the noise from the AC power line coming out of th=
e ground - its awful.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
relates to MTA Palmer Alaska solutions ADSL<BR><BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence KL 1 X<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&gt; From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com<BR>&g=
t; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>&gt; Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:10:5=
3 +0100<BR>&gt; Subject: Re: LF: MOFMT ADSL noise<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Dear Pe=
te, Paul-Henrik,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; M0FMT wrote:<BR>&gt; ....&gt; Well I can=
 only conclude it is ADSL because it is just raising the <BR>&gt; noise fl=
oor it is very subtle not really identifiable like say TV LTB, it's <BR>&g=
t; a mush...&gt;<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I have problems with ADSL on 500kHz at=
 my QTH - it sounds like "white noise" <BR>&gt; with no audible distinctiv=
e features I can detect. The noise can be about <BR>&gt; 10 - 20dB over th=
e band noise here over a fairly wide bandwidth in the MF <BR>&gt; range.=
 It does not seem to be a problem at 136k, perhaps because this is in <BR>=
&gt; the guard band between upstream and downstream ADSL signals. It is ea=
sy to <BR>&gt; tell if you are experiencing noise from your own ADSL conne=
ction - <BR>&gt; disconnect the incoming phone line (probably just unplugg=
ing the modem from <BR>&gt; the phone socket will be enough) and there wil=
l be a reduction in noise <BR>&gt; level. Unfortunately, there also seems=
 to be a significant level of similar <BR>&gt; noise here from other sourc=
es, probably my neighbors' ADSL via the overhead <BR>&gt; phone lines.<BR>=
&gt; <BR>&gt; I have had some success with a noise-cancelling arrangement=
 here, where the <BR>&gt; ADSL noise is sampled using a current transforme=
r made by passing the <BR>&gt; incoming phone line through a ferrite core,=
 and summed with the signal from <BR>&gt; loop antennas via a variable pha=
se-shifting and gain-adjusting network, <BR>&gt; which is adjusted for a=
 null in the noise. Also, moving the loop around the <BR>&gt; QTH shows so=
me positions are better than others. Actually, life is a bit <BR>&gt; more=
 complicated at this particular QTH, since there also seems to be <BR>&gt;=
 wide-band noise originating as very low-level sidebands from the local <B=
R>&gt; broadcast stations. This requires a second noise-cancelling network=
 to null <BR>&gt; noise from that direction. Also, it was necessary to ins=
ert a relay in <BR>&gt; series with the loading coil to disconnect the TX=
 antenna on receive, <BR>&gt; otherwise this coupled more noise into the=
 receiving antennas. But when it <BR>&gt; is all adjusted properly, the ov=
erall noise level can be reduced in <BR>&gt; favourable directions by abou=
t 20dB, which is worth doing.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Cheers, Jim Moritz<BR>&gt;=
 73 de M0BMU <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>                       <br /><hr />Hotm=
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Thanks Gerhard ,

What is your opinion of the  signal strength / quality ....compared to=
 the  recovery of the text .... ??

THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTIN=
G



From: Beckmann, Gerhard=20
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:32 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Cc: 'Graham'=20
Subject: LF: AW: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


Hello Graham,

=20

now first "lines of code"  (hi).

Condx seem to increase now (hopefully.)

=20

THE 1UICK BROWN FOX JUMP7D OVER EHE LAZEY M63NA91K247.6788 G0NBD TESTI=
NG

=20

Best 73 de Gerhard  //  DK6NI

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Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Oktober 2009 18:28
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20

=20

Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency=20

=20

TX set  502.000 USB

Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency=20

=20

Repeat time 60  seconds =20

=20

RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'  time=20

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Reports / observations  =20

=20

Tnx  Graham

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G0NBD - IO83LK =20

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks Gerhard ,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>What is your opinion of the&nbsp; sig=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD=
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TESTING</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:bec=
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ailto:beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de">Beckmann, Gerhard</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:32 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mail=
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fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">'Graham'</A> </DIV>
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=84lines of code=93&nbsp; (hi).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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to increase now (hopefully=85)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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GHT: bold"   lang=3DEN-GB>THE 1UICK BROWN FOX JUMP7D OVER EHE LAZEY M6=
3NA91K247.6788 G0NBD=20
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USB</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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I always thought amateur radio was about 2 x WAY COMMUNICATION ie QSO MODE, 
otherwise it is BROADCAST and SWL mode.
This is a strange  OBSERVATION
G3KEV

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>
> mal hamilton wrote:
>> Try QSO mode. Beacons only generate QRM for QSO operators.
>
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Increased the ERP on my (still QRPp) WSPR beacon by around 10dB (PA changes
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Andrey
I can not see any problem my signal is vy clear and strong on ur GRABBER 
tonite
tnx de mal/g3kev

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> Mal,
> Your signal here is almost in the centre of a spectrum of powerful 
> broadband SVC-station.
> It is a pity that you do not have possibility to replace frequency...
>
> 73 Andrey
>
>
>> Andrey can see my sig solid copy on ur GRABBER
>> TNX MAL
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:36 PM
>> Subject: LF: Re: Re: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz
>>
>>
>>> Hi Mal,
>>> I have already switched on the grabber on your frequency.
>>> The grabber will work on 500 khz to ~21z....
>>>
>>> In the night from 1.30 till 2.45 observed someone's wspr-signals on
>>> 503850.
>>> The signals was not decoded.
>>>
>>> 73 Andrey
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Andrey
>>>> Pse look at 502.57 starting at 1800 utc CW and QRS3
>>>> De mal/g3kev
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
>>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 6:45 PM
>>>> Subject: LF: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hello LF'ers,
>>>>> QRV RCV today WSPR-beacons on 500 kHz (503850+/-) till the morning.
>>>>> Also QRSS3 above frequency 502.350. If someone is going to work in
>>>>> QRSS3-mode,
>>>>> please inform your frequency.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73 Andrey
>
>


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Many thanx dear Chris for this new QSO with you.
Have a nice day at BIGGLESWADE
 
 
 
F4DTL  Nicolas JN18FP

TX:  350W  4x IRF450 + DDS pilot
Ant: 10m  vertical

RX :  Icom IC7400
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Hello Warren,LF
I recieved five strings XG from 0:45 till 05:45 local time.
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello Warren,LF</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I recieved five strings XG from 0:45 till 05:45 
local time.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het 
volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:<BR>XGJ 
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Gary - G4WGT wrote:

>
>
> IN VIEW OF THE PROBLEMS STEVE IS HAVING WITH MY GRABBER, WILL OTHERS 
> PLEASE TRY IT & REPORT IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT.

Hello Gary, LF Group
all links you've listed work perfectly - no problems at all.
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Good evening all
Beacon "BOJ" is open for 00h18 UTC...qrss 60 137776.20hz.......
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Thanks to  G3KEV we managed to  have 'one'  qso this afternoon, , , go=
od  579 on the  call .=20

Unfortunately due to slightly humorous situation, depending on your =
 point of view, we no longer have the  long wire and are now  transmit=
ting on the 600 ft delta loop  which originally  provide the rx . at=
 the  moment rx is a 10 mtr  whip ae , not  making  too bad a  job of=
 the  504  carrier but  sill no way as good as the  loop .

Apologies to  Finbar and  GM3BST , who apparently  called  , but  we=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Unfortunately due to slightly humorou=
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are now&nbsp; transmitting on the 600 ft delta loop&nbsp; which origin=
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provide the rx . at the&nbsp; moment rx is a 10 mtr&nbsp; whip ae , no=
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making&nbsp; too bad a&nbsp; job of the&nbsp; 504&nbsp; carrier but&nb=
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no way as good as the&nbsp; loop .</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Apologies to&nbsp; Finbar and&nbsp;=
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apparently&nbsp; called&nbsp;&nbsp;, but&nbsp; we did not copy (when?)=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>If any one &nbsp;did copy&nbsp; our&n=
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cq's&nbsp; round&nbsp; 4 to&nbsp; 6&nbsp; local time this&nbsp; aftern=
oon ,=20
did&nbsp; you notice the&nbsp; signal level&nbsp; compared to&nbsp;the=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>the&nbsp; station was&nbsp; operation=
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Thank you Paul=20

I have  just  changed the  text to  2 lines the  same=20

tnx - G ..=20

THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTIN=
G
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTIN=
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From: Clemens Paul=20
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Hi Graham,

100% copy here.

TQUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTING
 .L.NKC3T H5

SNR was 6dB as indicated by FLDIGI-SW.


73
Clemens
DL4RAJ

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


  Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency=20

  TX set  502.000 USB
  Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency=20

  Repeat time 60  seconds =20

  RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'  time=20

  Reports / observations  =20

  Tnx  Graham

  G0NBD - IO83LK =20





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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thank you Paul </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD=
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TESTING</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dcpaul@gmx.net=
   href=3D"mailto:cpaul@gmx.net">Clemens Paul</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 27, 2009 10:13 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mail=
to:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: Throb -2- beacon 503.000 </DIV></DIV></DI=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Hi Graham,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>100% copy here.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>TQUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZE=
Y MOON=20
0123456789 G0NBD TESTING<BR>&nbsp;.L.NKC3T H5</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>SNR was 6dB as indicated by FLDIGI-SW=
.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73<BR>Clemens<BR>DL4RAJ</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Throb -2- beacon=
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  </DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; THROB-2-&nbsp; Beacon=
&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  503.000 khz centre&nbsp; frequency </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Audio&nbsp; 1000 Hz cent frequency=
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>RX&nbsp; 'ON'&nbsp; during cycle tx=
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  &nbsp;time </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Reports / observations&nbsp;&nbsp;=
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Clemens (et al),

Just restarted the 500kHz WSPR beacon (have been out for a few hours) on
0.503910 +/-20Hz.

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/10/24 Clemens Paul <cpaul@gmx.net>

>  Roger,
>
> what is your exact dial qrg?
> Are you on air at present?
> I'll watch out for your signal.
>
> 73
> Clemens
> DL4RAJ
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>
> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 24, 2009 5:55 PM
> *Subject:* LF: 500kHz 1mW WSPR beaconing
>
> This will be active periodically over the weekend. It would be nice to get
> a few new reporters spotting me.
>
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM
>
> --
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
> http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
> G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088
>
> ------------------------------
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Clemens (et al),<br><br>Just restarted the 500kHz WSPR beacon (have been=
 out for a few hours) on 0.503910 +/-20Hz.<br><br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br><b=
r><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/24 Clemens Paul <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:cpaul@gmx.net">cpaul@gmx.net</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">





<div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Roger,</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">what is your exact dial qrg?</font></=
div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Are you on air at present?</font></di=
v>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">I&#39;ll watch out for your signal.</=
font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">73<br>Clemens<br>DL4RAJ</font></div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-right:=
 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;">
  <div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: norm=
al; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-a=
djust: none; font-stretch: normal;">----- Original Message ----- </div>
  <div style=3D"background: rgb(228, 228, 228) none repeat scroll 0% 0%;=
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round-inline-policy: continuous; font-family: arial; font-style: normal;=
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 normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">
<b>From:</b>=20
  <a title=3D"rogerlapthorn@gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:rogerlapthorn@gmail.=
com" target=3D"_blank">Roger=20
  Lapthorn</a> </div>
  <div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: norm=
al; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-a=
djust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"rsgb_lf_group@b=
lacksheep.org" href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_bla=
nk">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>=20
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al; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-a=
djust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 24, 200=
9 5:55=20
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al; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-a=
djust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b> LF: 500kHz 1mW WSPR=20
  beaconing</div>
  <div><br></div>This will be active periodically over the weekend. It wou=
ld be=20
  nice to get a few new reporters spotting me.<br><br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<b=
r clear=3D"all"><br>--=20
  <br>-------------------------------------------------------------<br><a=
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p.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk" target=3D"_blank=
">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =A0=20
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xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
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The  beacon text is now 2 lines  with  cr/lf at the  end , making tx=
 time about  60  seconds=20

THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTIN=
G
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTIN=
G


From: Graham=20
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:28 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency=20

TX set  502.000 USB
Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency=20

Repeat time 60  seconds =20

RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'  time=20

Reports / observations  =20

Tnx  Graham

G0NBD - IO83LK =20





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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>The&nbsp; beacon text is now 2 lines&=
nbsp;=20
with&nbsp; cr/lf at the&nbsp; end , making tx time about&nbsp; 60&nbsp=
; seconds=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD=
=20
TESTING</DIV>
<DIV>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD=
=20
TESTING</DIV></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:g8f=
zk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailto=
:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:28 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&#10;=
CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=
.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000 </DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; THROB-2-&nbsp; Beacon&n=
bsp;&nbsp;=20
503.000 khz centre&nbsp; frequency </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>TX set&nbsp; 502.000 USB</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Audio&nbsp; 1000 Hz cent frequency </=
FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Repeat time 60&nbsp; seconds&nbsp; </=
FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>RX&nbsp; 'ON'&nbsp; during cycle tx=
 'off'=20
&nbsp;time </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Reports / observations&nbsp;&nbsp; </=
FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx&nbsp; Graham</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G0NBD - IO83LK </FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><BR=
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Hi Henny LF
Many thanks for the qso Henny ur "MMM"
qrn to day in may qth..good week end..
73 's=20
Claude F8boj JN16WA



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Hi,


> Looks like some electrical storms in western Europe causing
> almost total wipe-out of the grabbers here.

> Also lots of loud static crashes on 136kHz.

Have a look at http://www.blitzortung.org/Webpages/index.php


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Hello LF Group!
The International Radio Regulations ("The Bible of
Radio Communications") define ERP as follows:
(1.162) -- effective radiated power (e.r.p.) in a given direction:
The product of the power supplied to the antenna and its gain
relative to a half-wave dipole in a given direction.
When applying for my permission I suggested the use of the
term EMRP which has the reference to a short vertical
monopole antenna. Unfortunately the PTT-people did not
know that term, so my limit became 20 Watts ERP!
It seems to me that there might be a difference of 2.6 dB
between these two definitions. But really not worth
bothering. Let us continue estimating and guessing!
73
Niels/OZ8NJ+
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73</FONT></DIV>
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Hi LF,
Had to close Tx down, just developed an intermittent SWR problem, probably
antenna connection down the garden. Tx is OK into dummy load. I will have to
investigate tomorrow.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.


2009/10/14 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

> Hi All LF.
> Testing again tonight.
>
> 503.600kHz - QRS3 - CW ID - 5 minute intervals - 3 watts ERP.
>
> Reports welcome.
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Hi LF,<div><br></div><div>Had to close Tx down, just developed an intermit=
tent SWR problem, probably antenna connection down the garden. Tx is OK in=
to dummy load. I will have to investigate tomorrow.</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>
73</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.</div><div><br><br><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/14 Gary - G4WGT <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk">g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk</a>&gt;</span><br><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px=
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Hi All LF.<div><br></div><div>Testing again tonight.</div><div><br></div><=
div>503.600kHz - QRS3 - CW ID - 5 minute intervals - 3 watts ERP.</div><di=
v><br></div><div>Reports welcome.</div><div><br></div><div>73</div><div><b=
r>

</div><div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.=A0</div><div><br></div>
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Good Morning LF
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Nw qrv 502.57 CW and QRS3 as appropriate for QSO also QSX 7033 for DX=
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Hi LF,
I have now changed the test transmission to QRS10, all the other conditions
are the same.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.

2009/10/8 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

> Hi LF,
> I am testing a new 137kHz loading coil & modified matching transformer
> tonight.
>
> Frequency 137.710kHz - QRS03 - 10 minute intervals.
>
> Reports welcome.
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.
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Hi LF,<div><br></div><div>I have now changed the test transmission to QRS10, all the other conditions are the same.</div><div><br></div><div>73</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
2009/10/8 Gary - G4WGT <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk">g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Hi LF,<div><br></div><div>I am testing a new 137kHz loading coil &amp; modified matching transformer tonight.</div><div><br></div><div>Frequency 137.710kHz - QRS03 - 10 minute intervals.</div><div><br></div><div>Reports welcome.</div>

<div><br></div><font color="#888888"><div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.</div>
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Hello Marcin, LF!
They are very nice snapshotes, thanks.

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Hi all:

I'm looking between 137.650 to 137.805 KHz any QRSS speed.
Is anyone xmit-ing on a certain frequency ?

73; hope to see you !!


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So far I have

       2009-10-30 22:50   M0BMU   0.503950   -29   0   IO91vr   +33   1.995   VE1VDM   FN85   4526   2812  
       2009-10-30 22:38   M0BMU   0.503950   -26   0   IO91vr   +33   1.995   VE1VDM   FN85   4526   2812  
       2009-10-30 22:30   M0BMU   0.503950   -25   0   IO91vr   +33   1.995   VE1VDM   FN85   4526   2812  
       2009-10-30 22:20   M0BMU   0.503950   -25   0   IO91vr   +23   0.200   VE1VDM   FN85   4526   2812  
       2009-10-30 22:16   M0BMU   0.503950   -28   0   IO91vr   +23   0.200   VE1VDM   FN85   4526   2812  
       2009-10-30 22:08   M0BMU   0.503950   -26   0   IO91vr   +23   0.200   VE1VDM   FN85   4526 


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    <TD align=left><FONT size=2>&nbsp;2009-10-30 22:16&nbsp;</FONT></TD>
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    <TD align=right><FONT size=2>&nbsp;0.503950&nbsp;</FONT></TD>
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Dear All, good signals from G4JNT and OR7T this evening.
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Dear friends, many many thanks for the lot of reports last night, most=
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hi John LF
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Subject: LF: Re: Re: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz
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Hi Mal,
I have already switched on the grabber on your frequency.
The grabber will work on 500 khz to ~21z....

In the night from 1.30 till 2.45 observed someone's wspr-signals on 503850.
The signals was not decoded.

73 Andrey


> Hi Andrey
> Pse look at 502.57 starting at 1800 utc CW and QRS3
> De mal/g3kev
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 6:45 PM
> Subject: LF: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz
> 
> 
>> Hello LF'ers,
>> QRV RCV today WSPR-beacons on 500 kHz (503850+/-) till the morning.
>> Also QRSS3 above frequency 502.350. If someone is going to work in 
>> QRSS3-mode,
>> please inform your frequency.
>>
>> 73 Andrey

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I built a version of the PA0RDT mini-whip just using an MPF102 and 2N3904
and it did a quite credible job on 136 and 500kHz even using it in the
shack. It would be even better out in the clear away from the house noise
sources.

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/10/21 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

> Hi Horst, Jim, LF,
> Same here, I have used a PA0RDT Mini-Whip active antenna for a good whil=
e
> now & it's performance is very good right down to 10kHz, may even go low=
er
> if I knew what to look for !!!
>
> My online grabbers use the Mini-Whip antenna.
>
> 73,
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
> 2009/10/21 James Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.net>
>
> Hi Horst
>>
>> I've just installed one of Roelof Bakker's (PA0RDT) active mini whips=
 and
>> it
>> is excellent at my QTH.  Just my view, others may have different
>> experiences
>>
>> With best regards
>>
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Horst St=F6cke=
r
>> Sent: 21 October 2009 17:26
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> Subject: LF: Best receiving antenna wanted
>>
>> Hello,
>> now that I am happy with my selectiv level meter Praecitronic MV-62 I=
 am
>> looking for the best receicing antenna.
>> Especially I am interested in 400khz, 136kHz, 72kHz and below 22 kHz.=
 With
>> my 40m longwire reception is not good enough and with a frame antenna=
 of
>> 900m copper wire it was disappointing, too..
>> I think, an active antenna for 0 to 500 MHz would be the best for me -=
 but
>> I
>> am looking forward to any other idea.
>> vy73 Horst DO1KHS
>> _______________________________________________________________
>> Neu: WEB.DE DSL bis 50.000 kBit/s und 200,- Euro Startguthaben!
>> http://produkte.web.de/go/02/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>


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I built a version of the PA0RDT mini-whip just using an MPF102 and 2N3904=
 and it did a quite credible job on 136 and 500kHz even using it in the sh=
ack. It would be even better out in the clear away from the house noise so=
urces.<br>
<br>73s <br>Roger G3XBM <br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/21 Gary=
 - G4WGT <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk">g4wg=
t@tiscali.co.uk</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;=
 padding-left: 1ex;">
Hi Horst, Jim, LF,<div><br></div><div>Same here, I have used a PA0RDT Mini=
-Whip active antenna for a good while now &amp; it&#39;s performance is ve=
ry good right down to 10kHz, may even go lower if I knew what to look for=
 !!!</div>

<div><br></div><div>My online grabbers use the Mini-Whip antenna.</div><di=
v><br></div><div>73,</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT.<br><br><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/21 James Cowburn <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:james.cowburn@virgin.net" target=3D"_blank">james.cowburn@virgi=
n.net</a>&gt;</span><div>
<div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hi Horst<br>
<br>
I&#39;ve just installed one of Roelof Bakker&#39;s (PA0RDT) active mini wh=
ips and it<br>
is excellent at my QTH. =A0Just my view, others may have different experie=
nces<br>
<br>
With best regards<br>
<br>
<br>
Jim<br>
<br>
<br>
Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_bla=
nk">owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a><br>
[mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_b=
lank">owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>] On Behalf Of Horst St=F6cker=
<br>
Sent: 21 October 2009 17:26<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank">rsgb=
_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a><br>
Subject: LF: Best receiving antenna wanted<br>
<br>
Hello,<br>
now that I am happy with my selectiv level meter Praecitronic MV-62 I am<b=
r>
looking for the best receicing antenna.<br>
Especially I am interested in 400khz, 136kHz, 72kHz and below 22 kHz. With=
<br>
my 40m longwire reception is not good enough and with a frame antenna of<b=
r>
900m copper wire it was disappointing, too..<br>
I think, an active antenna for 0 to 500 MHz would be the best for me - but=
 I<br>
am looking forward to any other idea.<br>
vy73 Horst DO1KHS<br>
_______________________________________________________________<br>
Neu: <a href=3D"http://WEB.DE" target=3D"_blank">WEB.DE</a> DSL bis 50.000=
 kBit/s und 200,- Euro Startguthaben!<br>
<a href=3D"http://produkte.web.de/go/02/" target=3D"_blank">http://produkt=
e.web.de/go/02/</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div></div></div><br></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>----------------------=
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gspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.g3=
xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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Dear Markus, Rik,

I think Rik's description is a variant of Markus' method - both using the 
principle of reciprocity to evaluate the properties of a transmitting 
antenna by measuring the received signal level produced by a known field 
strength. So this is indeed a third method.

It is interesting that this does not actually require the field strength to 
be measured in order to get the effective height/radiation 
resistance/efficiency - just the ratio between the TX antenna output level 
and the measuring antenna output level. However, to get the ERP when 
actually transmitting, an absolute measurement of antenna current or TX 
power would be needed.

So in summary, methods to determine ERP:

Method 1 - requires "calibrated" TX antenna (i.e. antenna effective 
height/radiation resistance calculated from dimensions), with calibrated 
antenna current measurement (or power and impedance).
Simplest in terms of equipment needed and measurement , but least reliable 
because environmental losses only partly included.

Method 2 - requires calibrated receive antenna (loop) and calibrated 
measuring receiver to measure receive antenna output voltage/power etc.
Most difficult to do due to equipment needed and (multiple) far-field FS 
measurements. Includes effect of environmental losses. Requires no knowledge 
of transmitter/antenna, apart from where it is - most useful for Ofcom/FCC 
etc.

Method 3 - requires calibrated receive antenna (loop) and calibrated antenna 
current (power/impedance etc.) measurement, plus ratio of received signal 
levels.
Intermediate equipment requirement (Also a suitable signal is required, e.g. 
DCF39). Includes effect of environmental losses.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Hi Gary, LF!

One mistake into links:
>>Roman, RN3AGC in Moscow - Locator: KO85SV

RN3AGC is not Roman -) Roman it's me, RW3ADB)
His name is Andrey.

>>Alternates between 136 & 500 KHz.

Both grabbers in Moscow are switched between 136 and 500 because we use 
only one FT897D at each location.

>>http://www.cln.ru/~efremov/grabber.html
This is old link to the old Andrey's site. He is closed now.
New link to the grabber: http://rn3agc.msk.ru/grabber1.shtml
New RN3AGC site: http://rn3agc.msk.ru/index.shtml

My site is http://qrss.nm.ru/
Grabber: http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html

* Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> [Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:30:47 +0100]:
> Hi All,
>
> See the WSPR addition to G4WGT grabber list on UK500KHZ Group.
>
> Click on http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers
> - or copy & paste it into your browser's address bar if that doesn't
> work.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT.

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Jean - Pierre I agree and the timings coincide, but in any case Ill leave=
 the China grabber on 137.775/781 window tonight (12th) at dot 60 if anyon=
e wants to shove some RF out my way Id be delighted to listen/view.

=20

Im down on processing power at the moment so wont be able to run 500Khz in=
 parallel till I sort out my boot.ini on my other dell PC, and this is som=
ewhat restricting my Loran listening too.

=20

LF/MF Conditions were very quiet last night but I didnt hear Ankara TTY.=
 DCF77/HBG were good and clear too.

=20

Murky Sun down here on the East Coast of China is appx 0936 thru 2218Z

=20

Laurence G4 DMA in BY3A Teda Tianjin  OM89UA

KL 1 X

=20

Alaska grabber http://kl1x.com/dx00000.jpg (sitting on 30m at the moment=
 I think)

China grabber http://kl1x.com/2dx00000.jpg

=20

=20


=20
> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 09:36:11 +0200
> From: jpm.f1afj@online.fr
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: 137.7761 and a bit
>=20
> Hello Laurence, Claude, John,
>=20
> With my opinion I think that it is the signal of Claude F8BOJ
> Perhaps could you see with the synchro with the hour !
> the files of my grabber for comparison are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
> I looked at the capture of Laurence, it seems that it is the end of the=
=20
> =93J=94 of Claude .
>=20
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre F1AFJ
>
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Jean - Pierre I agree and the timings coincide, but in any case&nbsp;Ill=
 leave the China grabber on 137.775/781 window tonight (12th)&nbsp;at dot=
 60 if anyone wants to shove some RF out my way Id be delighted to listen/=
view.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Im down on processing power at the moment so wont be able to run 500Khz in=
 parallel till I sort out my boot.ini on my other dell PC, and this is som=
ewhat restricting my Loran listening too.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
LF/MF Conditions were very quiet last night but I didnt hear Ankara TTY.=
 DCF77/HBG were good and clear too.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Murky Sun down here on the East Coast of China is appx 0936 thru 2218Z<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence G4 DMA in BY3A&nbsp;Teda Tianjin &nbsp;OM89UA<BR>
KL 1 X<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Alaska grabber <A href=3D"http://kl1x.com/dx00000.jpg">http://kl1x.com/dx0=
0000.jpg</A>&nbsp;(sitting on 30m at the moment I think)<BR>
China grabber <A href=3D"http://kl1x.com/2dx00000.jpg">http://kl1x.com/2dx=
00000.jpg</A><BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&gt; Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 09:36:11 +0200<BR>&gt; From: jpm=
.f1afj@online.fr<BR>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>&gt; Subject:=
 Re: LF: 137.7761 and a bit<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Hello Laurence, Claude, John,=
<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; With my opinion I think that it is the signal of Claude=
 F8BOJ<BR>&gt; Perhaps could you see with the synchro with the hour !<BR>&=
gt; the files of my grabber for comparison are at :<BR>&gt; http://jpmere.=
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Hi Warren and ALL,
Capture XGJ
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
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Roger Lapthorn wrote:
> This evening and overnight I shall be running my little 500kHz WSPR beacon
> in its "original" state (ERP around 6uW) before I start mods to the TX and
> the antenna, hopefully resulting in stronger signals.

I'm game for a try, looking now and will leave it running overnight. 
Already got G7NKS!

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> mal hamilton wrote:
>> Nw QRV 502.57 CW AND QRS3 QSX 7033 FOR DX
>> MALG3KEV
>>
> Copying your QRS3 on 500kHz Mal, 579, sent you a report on 7MHz, don't
> know if you got it.
>
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Hi John ,
Yes it is a strange signal ! I do not see what that can be . Between=20
Markus and me there is more than 800 km , therefore this signal was very=
=20
powerful ! .....
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

John Andrews a =E9crit :
> Jean-Pierre,
>
> Thanks for the report.
>
> I was watching the F1AFJ and DF6NM grabbers tonight in the 0100-0200=20
> UTC period. There was an interesting signal that swept through both=20
> screens... certainly not a local QRP event to appear at both=20
> locations. See:
>
> http://www.w1tag.com/files/F1AFJ.jpg
> http://www.w1tag.com/files/DF6NM.jpg
>
> John, W1TAG
>
> Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ) wrote:
>> Hello John ,
>>
>> I copy your beacon last night (00:00>01:30utc)
>>
>> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>>
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Tnx info Andrey
At present xtal only on 502.57 will get a vfo ctl soon. Tonite will TX at 
1700 utc pse switch GRABBER on early.
tnx de mal/g3kev

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> Mal,
> More or less freely here: 500.0-502.3 and 503.1-504.0.
> But also here in some places there are bad-lines.
> Inform me frequencies which you can establish.
> And I here will look, whether they are free.
>
> 73 Andrey
>
>
>
>> Andrey
>> What would be a good FREQ for reception on 500?
>> We could try earlier in the day
>> de mal/g3kev
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 8:26 PM
>> Subject: LF: Re: Re: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz
>>
>>
>>> Mal,
>>> If here there was no this svc-station, your qrss3-signal would be 
>>> visible
>>> also in the afternoon :)
>>> For certain.
>>>
>>> 73 Andrey
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Andrey
>>>> I can not see any problem my signal is vy clear and strong on ur 
>>>> GRABBER
>>>> tonite
>>>> tnx de mal/g3kev
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
>>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 7:56 PM
>>>> Subject: LF: Re: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Mal,
>>>>> Your signal here is almost in the centre of a spectrum of powerful
>>>>> broadband SVC-station.
>>>>> It is a pity that you do not have possibility to replace frequency...
>>>>>
>>>>> 73 Andrey
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Andrey can see my sig solid copy on ur GRABBER
>>>>>> TNX MAL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
>>>>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:36 PM
>>>>>> Subject: LF: Re: Re: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Mal,
>>>>>>> I have already switched on the grabber on your frequency.
>>>>>>> The grabber will work on 500 khz to ~21z....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the night from 1.30 till 2.45 observed someone's wspr-signals on
>>>>>>> 503850.
>>>>>>> The signals was not decoded.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 73 Andrey
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Andrey
>>>>>>>> Pse look at 502.57 starting at 1800 utc CW and QRS3
>>>>>>>> De mal/g3kev
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
>>>>>>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 6:45 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: LF: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello LF'ers,
>>>>>>>>> QRV RCV today WSPR-beacons on 500 kHz (503850+/-) till the 
>>>>>>>>> morning.
>>>>>>>>> Also QRSS3 above frequency 502.350. If someone is going to work in
>>>>>>>>> QRSS3-mode,
>>>>>>>>> please inform your frequency.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 73 Andrey
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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Hi Steve,
Well, I can't see any reason for the non-connect from my end, I will give
you my main web address & you can try from the links page (if you get in
that is) :-

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/

Also you could try from the links on the UK500KHZ group home page :-

http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz

You are correct regarding the operation of slow rate 24/7 signals, the
nearest to that are a few experimental EU stations a around 505.200kHz but
usually only using QRS03 or QRS10.

IN VIEW OF THE PROBLEMS STEVE IS HAVING WITH MY GRABBER, WILL OTHERS PLEASE
TRY IT & REPORT IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS.

73

Gary - G4WGT.





<http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz>



2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra.com>

>  G'day Gary,
>
> Sorry - still can't connect.   Perhaps someone else should try.
>
> Sorry to all for using the 'B' word - I of course meant MEPT....
>
> A bit of research makes me think there are no 24/7 QRSS30 or slower MEPTs
> operating on 500kc in the UK/EU - or at least none that I can find.
>
> My intent was to leave ARGO going overnight here (local time) each day(sic)
> for a period of time to see if, by some chance, I could see anything this
> far away.
>
> Yours grabber is 24/7, but unfortunately for some inexplicable reason I
> cannot see it currently.     In any case, I would still need a regular MEPT
> with long carrier bursts, and that appears not to be the case.
>
> Thanks for the help and info.
>
> 73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 06, 2009 12:55 AM
> *Subject:* Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers....
>
> Hi Steve,
> Although I have not been uploading captures today until now (1348utc) there
> is no problem with my site, it has been displaying a message "Grabber
> Temporary Off Line" as I do my PC maintenance on a Monday (hard disk
> backup's etc).
>
> You will find that some (maybe most) of the other grabbers are random but
> mine is 24/7.
>
> Here is the url again just in case :-
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html
>
>  <http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html>73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.
>
> 2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra.com>
>
>>  G'day Gary,
>>
>> There currently seems to be a rend in the time-space continuum here down
>> under in VK-land....
>>
>> Apart from your site - for which I get a "can't connect".
>>
>> From the links on the Google site I get the following results.
>>
>> 1. GM4SLV - last grab Jan 2009.
>> 2. CT1DRP - last grab Nov 2008.
>> 3. Hartmut Wolff - last grab Nov 2008.
>> 4. GM4ISM - can't connect.
>> 5. DF6NM - last grab May 2008.
>> 6. RN3AGC - can't connect.
>>
>> The only one that works is the http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/ link.
>>
>> What am I missing ?
>>
>> 73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)
>>
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
>> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 05, 2009 8:28 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers....
>>
>>  Hi Steve,
>> A small list of grabbers on the UK500KHZ Group web site at :-
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers
>>
>> Also my own grabber page for the UK, EU & USA bands at :-
>>
>> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.
>>
>>  <http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers>
>>
>> 2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra.com>
>>
>>> G'day All,
>>>
>>> In an expression of extreme optimism I am interested in getting details
>>> of 500kc beacons (preferably QRSS30 and slower) in Europe.    To get
>>> real-time confirmation of on-air status I am also looking for relevant local
>>> grabbers for those beacons.
>>>
>>> 73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)
>>>
>>>
>>
>

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Hi Steve,<div><br></div><div>Well, I can&#39;t see any reason for the non-=
connect from my end, I will give you my main web address &amp; you can try=
 from the links page (if you get in that is) :-</div><div><br></div><div><=
a href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/">http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk=
/wgtaylor/</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>Also you could try from the links on the UK500KHZ grou=
p home page :-</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://groups.google.co=
m/group/uk500khz">http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz</a></div><div><b=
r>
</div><div>You are correct regarding the operation of slow rate 24/7 signa=
ls, the nearest to that are a few experimental EU stations a around 505.20=
0kHz but usually only using QRS03 or QRS10.</div><div><br></div><div>IN VI=
EW OF THE PROBLEMS STEVE IS HAVING WITH MY GRABBER, WILL OTHERS PLEASE TRY=
 IT &amp; REPORT IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS.</div>
<div><br></div><div>73</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT.</div><div><b=
r></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><=
a href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz"></a><br>
<div><br></div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:vk2zto@djirra.com" target=3D"_blank"=
>vk2zto@djirra.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">







<div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">G&#39;day Gary,</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Sorry - still can&#39;t connect.=A0=
=A0 Perhaps=20
someone else should try.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Sorry to all for using the &#39;B&#39=
; word - I of course=20
meant MEPT....</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">A bit of research makes me think ther=
e are no 24/7=20
QRSS30 or slower MEPTs operating on 500kc in the UK/EU=A0- or at least non=
e=20
that I can find.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">My intent was to leave ARGO going ove=
rnight here=20
(local time) each day(sic) for a period of time to see if, by some chance,=
 I=20
could see anything this far away.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Yours grabber is 24/7, but unfortunat=
ely for some=20
inexplicable reason I cannot see it currently.=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0In=20
any case,=A0I would still need a regular MEPT with long carrier bursts, an=
d=20
that appears not to be the case.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Thanks for the help and info.</font><=
/div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)</font></div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-left:#000000 2px solid;padding-left:5px;paddin=
g-right:0px;margin-left:5px;margin-right:0px" dir=3D"ltr">
  <div style=3D"font:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
  <div style=3D"font:10pt arial;background:#e4e4e4"><b>From:</b>=20
  <a title=3D"g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk" href=3D"mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk" tar=
get=3D"_blank">Gary -=20
  G4WGT</a> </div>
  <div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org" href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank"=
>rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>=20
  </div>
  <div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 06, 2009 12=
:55=20
  AM</div>
  <div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: LF: 500kc beacons and=
=20
  grabbers....</div>
  <div><br></div>Hi Steve,
  <div><br></div>
  <div>Although I have not been uploading captures today until now (1348ut=
c)=20
  there is no problem with my site, it has been displaying a message &quot=
;Grabber=20
  Temporary Off Line&quot; as I do my PC maintenance on a Monday (hard dis=
k backup&#39;s=20
  etc).</div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div>You will find that some (maybe most) of the other grabbers are rand=
om but=20
  mine is 24/7.</div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div>Here is the url again just in case :-</div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div><a href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html" targe=
t=3D"_blank">http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html</a></div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div><a href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html" targe=
t=3D"_blank"></a>73</div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.<br><br>
  <div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:vk2zto@djirra.com" target=3D"_blank">vk2zto@djirra.com</a>&gt;=
</span><br>
  <blockquote style=3D"border-left:#ccc 1px solid;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
;padding-left:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">
    <div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
    <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">G&#39;day Gary,</font></div>
    <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
    <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">There currently seems to be a ren=
d in the=20
    time-space continuum here down under in VK-land....</font></div>
    <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
    <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Apart from your site - for which=
 I get a &quot;can&#39;t=20
    connect&quot;.</font></div>
    <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
    <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">From the links on=A0the Google si=
te I get=20
    the following results.</font></div>
    <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
    <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">1. GM4SLV - last grab Jan 2009.</=
font></div>
    <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">2. CT1DRP - last grab Nov 2008.</=
font></div>
    <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">3. Hartmut Wolff - last grab Nov=
=20
    2008.</font></div>
    <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">4. GM4ISM - can&#39;t connect.</f=
ont></div>
    <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">5. DF6NM - last grab May 2008.</f=
ont></div>
    <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">6. RN3AGC - can&#39;t connect.</f=
ont></div>
    <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
    <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">The only one that works is the <a=
 href=3D"http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_bla=
nk"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Times New Roman">http://www.wireless.org.uk/g=
rab/</font></a>=A0link.</font></div>


    <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
    <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">What am I missing ?</font></div>
    <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
    <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)</font></d=
iv>
    <blockquote style=3D"border-left:#000000 2px solid;padding-left:5px;pa=
dding-right:0px;margin-left:5px;margin-right:0px" dir=3D"ltr">
      <div>
      <div style=3D"font:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
      <div style=3D"font:10pt arial;background:#e4e4e4"><b>From:</b> <a ti=
tle=3D"g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk" href=3D"mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk" target=3D"=
_blank">Gary - G4WGT</a> </div>
      <div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"rsgb_lf_group@=
blacksheep.org" href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_bl=
ank">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a> </div>
      <div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 05, 2009=
 8:28=20
      PM</div>
      <div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: LF: 500kc beacons=
 and=20
      grabbers....</div>
      <div><br></div></div>
      <div>
      <div></div>
      <div>Hi Steve,=20
      <div><br></div>
      <div>A small list of grabbers on the UK500KHZ Group web site at :-</=
div>
      <div><br></div>
      <div><a href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-=
grabbers" target=3D"_blank">http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/50=
0-khz-grabbers</a></div>
      <div><br></div>
      <div>Also my own grabber page for the UK, EU &amp; USA bands at :-</=
div>
      <div><br></div>
      <div><a href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html"=
 target=3D"_blank">http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html</a></=
div>
      <div><br></div>
      <div>73</div>
      <div><br></div>
      <div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.</div>
      <div><br></div>
      <div><a href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-=
grabbers" target=3D"_blank"></a><br><br>
      <div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:vk2zto@djirra.com" target=3D"_blank">vk2zto@djirra.com</a>=
&gt;</span><br>
      <blockquote style=3D"border-left:#ccc 1px solid;margin:0px 0px 0px=
 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">G&#39;day All,<br><br>In an=
 expression of extreme optimism=20
        I am interested in getting details of 500kc beacons (preferably QR=
SS30=20
        and slower) in Europe. =A0 =A0To get real-time confirmation of=20
        on-air status I am also looking for relevant local grabbers for th=
ose=20
        beacons.<br><br>73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)=20
      <br><br></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></blockquote></div>=
</blockquote></div><br></div></blockquote></div>
</blockquote></div><br></div></div>

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Thanks Graham
=A0
Not a beacon but a call, computer generated. Locally we try to have a qso=
 weekdays at around 11:45 or at some time over the lunch hour and again la=
ter around 4:00 it=A0is a very loose sched with M0JXM Dennis and rarely M0=
KHW.Ken. =A0Rog GW3UEP listens some times whch is remarkable=A0and reports=
 by e-mail=A0because I can't hear him its my RX or location (adsl noise?)=
 that is poor but=A0we should be reciprical.
=A0
FYI the current rig is an xtal controlled=A0GW3UEP (ala UK500kHZ group) th=
is week run off a laptop PSU very approx 35 watts output to a lw up 12m -=
 40m lng. Tnx fer rprt, meanwhile back to the RX with a big hammer.
=A0
73 petefmt


--- On Mon, 12/10/09, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:


From: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Subject: LF: MOFMT
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Monday, 12 October, 2009, 12:34 PM



M0FMT ,Good=A0=A0 569 from the=A0 35=A0 ft=A0 vertical (with atu=A0) ft897=
-d speaker at 1200=A0 bst to=A0 day , normal speed=A0 cw , beacon or=A0 li=
ve cq call =A0?=20
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"top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV>Thanks Graham</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Not a beacon but a call, computer generated. Locally we try to have=
 a qso weekdays at around 11:45 or at some time over the lunch hour and ag=
ain later around 4:00 it&nbsp;is a very loose sched with M0JXM Dennis and=
 rarely M0KHW.Ken. &nbsp;Rog GW3UEP listens some times whch is remarkable&=
nbsp;and reports by e-mail&nbsp;because I can't hear him its my RX or loca=
tion (adsl noise?) that is poor but&nbsp;we should be reciprical.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>FYI the current rig is an xtal controlled&nbsp;GW3UEP (ala UK500kHZ=
 group) this week run off a laptop PSU very approx 35 watts output to a lw=
 up 12m - 40m lng. Tnx fer rprt, meanwhile back to the RX with a big hamme=
r.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73 petefmt<BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 12/10/09, Graham <I>&lt;g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk&gt=
;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb=
(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: Graham &lt;g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk&gt;<BR=
>Subject: LF: MOFMT<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Date: Monday,=
 12 October, 2009, 12:34 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV id=3Dyiv363705495>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>M0FMT ,Good&nbsp;&nbsp; 569 from the&nbsp=
; 35&nbsp; ft&nbsp; vertical (with atu&nbsp;) ft897-d speaker at 1200&nbsp=
; bst to&nbsp; day , normal speed&nbsp; cw , beacon or&nbsp; live cq call=
 &nbsp;? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Graham</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>G0NBD&nbsp; /. io83lk</FONT></DIV></DIV><=
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Ok Walter=20

Well that is a good  question ! ...=20

Its a  narrow  band  data  mode that  uses a combination of   multi =
 tones and  amplitude modulation .. the  tones relay the  data  and th=
e  amplitude modulation  provides the  syn-pulse .. so  every characte=
r   has its ''own sync pulse''  so the  system has no  'lock up or  sy=
nc time'' =20

I am using  FLDIGI  as the  tx software .........  you  need to be ver=
y  close on frequency to decode=20

Tnx - G ..


From: Walter und Marianne Staubach=20
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:34 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: Re: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


Please help, Graham - what is THROB-2?
73
Walter DJ2LF / DI2AG

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Graham=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:28 PM
  Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


  Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency=20

  TX set  502.000 USB
  Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency=20

  Repeat time 60  seconds =20

  RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'  time=20

  Reports / observations  =20

  Tnx  Graham

  G0NBD - IO83LK =20





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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Ok Walter </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I am using&nbsp; FLDIGI&nbsp; as the&=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx - G ..</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:34 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mail=
to:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: Throb -2- beacon 503.000 </DIV></DIV></DI=
V>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Please help, Graham - what is THROB-2=
?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Walter DJ2LF / DI2AG</FONT></DIV>
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  </DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; THROB-2-&nbsp; Beacon=
&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  503.000 khz centre&nbsp; frequency </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>TX set&nbsp; 502.000 USB</FONT></DI=
V>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Audio&nbsp; 1000 Hz cent frequency=
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>RX&nbsp; 'ON'&nbsp; during cycle tx=
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  &nbsp;time </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Reports / observations&nbsp;&nbsp;=
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  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx&nbsp; Graham</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G0NBD - IO83LK=20
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Petr,

for Belgium:
range: 501-504kHz
power: 5W EIRP
modes: telegraphy (as per ITU definition, meaning it includes digital 
text modes as psk, rtty, wspr etc...)
bandwidth: max. 100Hz

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


At 10:54 22/10/2009, you wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>I wonder where the following web disappeared:
>http://www.picks.force9.co.uk/index.htm
>is it just temporarily unavailable, moved to another address, or canceled
>totally?
>It was a great source of information.
>
>Second question. I just write an article that is related to MW. Can anybody
>provide a list of countries where the band around 505kHz is allowed for
>normal QSOs (not only beacons). What are the band limits, what is the
>allowed power?
>
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I have just restarted my 500kHz WSPR beaconing. At the moment I've not yet
attempted any ERP improvements so the ERP will still be in the 6uW region as
measured by M0BMU. Reports would be much appreciated.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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I have just restarted my 500kHz WSPR beaconing. At the moment I&#39;ve not=
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Hi Steve,
I am pleased you got that frustrating problem sorted out HI HI.

Glad to help if I can in any way.

Cheers,

gary - G4WGT.

2009/10/6 VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra.com>

>  G'day Gary,
>
> Well - the problem has gone away.   For some reason the "
> myweb.tiscali.co.uk/..." site address and several others had been put on a
> blacklist in my network security setup.  Something has triggered it off.
>
> While I obviously don't want to go into specific details, currently this
> has been cleared.
>
> My apologies for wasting your time and RSGB bandwidth.
>
> 73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 06, 2009 10:49 PM
> *Subject:* Re: LF: Links - Gary
>
> Hi All,
> My thanks to all (both direct & LF) who confirmed that the grabber links
> are OK.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
> 2009/10/6 Chris <c.ashby435@btinternet.com>
>
>>  Hi Gary,
>> All seems to work OK here as well.
>> 73, Chris, G4AYT.
>>
>
>

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Hi Steve,<div><br></div><div>I am pleased you got that frustrating problem=
 sorted out HI HI.</div><div><br></div><div>Glad to help if I can in any=
 way.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div>gary - G4W=
GT.<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/6 VK2ZTO <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:vk2zto@djirra.com">vk2zto@djirra.com</a>&gt;</span><br><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px=
 #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">






<div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">G&#39;day Gary,</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Well - the problem has gone away.=A0=
=A0 For=20
some reason the &quot;<a href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/.." target=3D"=
_blank">myweb.tiscali.co.uk/..</a>.&quot; site address and several others=
 had=20
been put on a blacklist in my network security setup.=A0 Something has=20
triggered it off.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">While I obviously don&#39;t want to=
 go into specific=20
details, currently this has been cleared.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">My apologies for wasting your time an=
d=A0RSGB=20
bandwidth.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)</font></div><=
div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">
<blockquote style=3D"border-left:#000000 2px solid;padding-left:5px;paddin=
g-right:0px;margin-left:5px;margin-right:0px" dir=3D"ltr">
  <div style=3D"font:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
  <div style=3D"font:10pt arial;background:#e4e4e4"><b>From:</b>=20
  <a title=3D"g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk" href=3D"mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk" tar=
get=3D"_blank">Gary -=20
  G4WGT</a> </div>
  <div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org" href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank"=
>rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>=20
  </div>
  <div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 06, 2009 10=
:49=20
  PM</div>
  <div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: LF: Links - Gary</div=
>
  <div><br></div>Hi All,
  <div><br></div>
  <div>My thanks to all (both direct &amp; LF) who confirmed that the grab=
ber=20
  links are OK.</div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div>73</div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div>Gary - G4WGT.<br><br>
  <div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/6 Chris <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:c.ashby435@btinternet.com" target=3D"_blank">c.ashby435@btinter=
net.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
  <blockquote style=3D"border-left:#ccc 1px solid;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
;padding-left:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">
    <div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
    <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Hi Gary,</font></div>
    <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">All seems to work OK here as well=
.</font></div>
    <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">73, Chris,=20
  G4AYT.</font></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></blockquote></div=
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Nicolas,<br>
<br>
Ossi is using a TX with a free running LC-VFO on 1.375MHz which is then
divided by 10. Considering this set-up I am impressed with a drift of
just 3Hz over about 20 mins!<br>
<br>
73 Heinz, OE5EEP<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:F4DTL@aol.com">F4DTL@aol.com</a> schrieb:
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Piotr MÅ‚ynarski wrote:
> Dear Rick, LF group
> it is my first decode of ur wspr signal 2118 -21  1.4   0.503868  0 
> OR7T JO20 23
> 2118 -22  0.8   0.503929  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
> it was also sent  to wspr database
>

Just downloaded wspr. I have the dial set at 502.4 but nothing is 
decoding. Time is set accurately. Any ideas?

73

Richard
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Hi Andy, LF,


Got several decodes during daylight today, 315 Km - 196 m


091023 0726   5 -27  0.4   0.503850  G4JNT IO90 23           0    12    0

091023 0942   3 -29 -0.2   0.503850  G4JNT IO90 23           0 14715   28

091023 1126   2 -32  0.0   0.503850  G4JNT IO90 23           0 10959    5

091023 1412   1 -31  0.0   0.503850  G4JNT IO90 23           0 18419  -19

091023 1536   3 -28 -0.2   0.503850  G4JNT IO90 23           0    13    0

73

Gary - G4WGT.

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi Andy, LF,</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal">Got several decodes during daylight today, 315 Km -=
 196 m</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">091023 072=
6<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=A0=A0 </span>5
-27<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=A0 </span>0.4<span style=3D"mso-space=
run:yes">=A0=A0
</span>0.503850<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=A0 </span>G4JNT IO90 23<s=
pan style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 </span>0<spa=
n style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=A0=A0=A0
</span>12<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=A0=A0=A0 </span>0</p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">091023 0942<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=A0=A0=
 </span>3 -29
-0.2<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=A0=A0 </span>0.503850<span style=3D"=
mso-spacerun:yes">=A0 </span>G4JNT IO90 23<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes"=
>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 </span>0 14715<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:=
yes">=A0=A0 </span>28</p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">091023 1126<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=A0=A0=
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-32<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=A0 </span>0.0<span style=3D"mso-space=
run:yes">=A0=A0
</span>0.503850<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=A0 </span>G4JNT IO90 23<s=
pan style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 </span>0 109=
59<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=A0=A0=A0 </span>5</p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">091023 1412<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=A0=A0=
 </span>1
-31<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=A0 </span>0.0<span style=3D"mso-space=
run:yes">=A0=A0
</span>0.503850<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=A0 </span>G4JNT IO90 23<s=
pan style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 </span>0 184=
19<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=A0 </span>-19</p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">091023 1536<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=A0=A0=
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-0.2<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=A0=A0 </span>0.503850<span style=3D"=
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mal hamilton wrote:

> Vern
> Nw active QRS3 and CW on 502.57 if that is any help.
> VE1JG has often hrd me in the past.
> 73 de mal/g3kev

Dear Mal,
i am calling you on 7033kc  and qsx on 502.57kc in qrss3

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My QRPp 500kHz WSPR beacon will be back on again tonight; the little
grandchildren have now gone home, sadly, so my shack is no longer needed as
a bedroom.

Any reports, especially new ones, would be much appreciated.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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My QRPp 500kHz WSPR beacon will be back on again tonight; the little grand=
children have now gone home, sadly, so my shack is no longer needed as a=
 bedroom.<br><br>Any reports, especially new ones, would be much appreciat=
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<br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br clear=3D"all"><br>------------------------------=
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k">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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Thanks for the report Ha-Jo
 73  Peter, G3LDO
> Dear all,
>
> G3LDO audible 559, some QRN, in eastern Bavaria, JN68GN, on 501,1 kHz in
> QRSS around 22.40 UTC.
>
> Yesterday night I had no time to listen, sri.
>
> 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB
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Hello Warren,LF
capture XGJ
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello Warren,LF</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capture XGJ</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het 
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Now looking 137.7
mal/g3kev

----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 5:45 PM
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> Hi Mal
> OK Mal, I search your signal on 500kHz.
> Vy 73!
> Marcin SQ2BXI
>
> Marcin
> Can u work xband I will TX 502.57 qrs3 and I will QSX 137.7
> Let me know
> de mal/g3kev
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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>
>
> Hi LF!
> Station SP2KDS will be work today,
> Operation in QRSS will start from 19:00 UTC on 137.700kHz (QRRS3) and
> 137,778kHz (QRSS60).
> Vy 73!
> Marcin SQ2BXI
>
>
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G'day Jim,

Thanks for this.  It is a very thorough treatment of the method - including 
the limitations.   It will be one of my "print out and file" reference 
documents and I will alert the VK LF-ers to the link.

While in the general area of soundcard frequency accuracy - there was a time 
in the distant past when worrying about sampling frequency errors was less 
of a concern to me as all the cards I tested were well within 100ppm (< 
0.1Hz @ 1000Hz).  In that distant past soundcard sampling rates were 
44.1ksps, 22.05ksps, 11.025ksps and 5.512ksps (usually implemented as 
5.5125ksps).   That is, all sampling rates were "harmonically" related. 
Now we have the 48ksps, 96ksps (and higher?), which, while self related 
harmonically, are not harmonically related to the legacy sample rates.

The practical consequences of this caused much head scratching on my part, 
until the fog cleared, when I first dabbled in W*S*P*R ("*"'s added to avoid 
spambots...;-).   Everything was going swimmingly until I cross-checked the 
frequency of my transmission as reported by WSPR against ARGO.   There was a 
discrepancy of some ten's of Hz.   For someone who is a bit AR about 
frequency accuracy this caused mild apolexy.

To make an already long story not grow too much longer, I always use 
external USB soundcards (EDIROL UA-1eX) which have a physical hardware 
switch to select sampling rates (44.1ksps, 32ksps, 48ksps and 96ksps) built 
into them.    For some reason I had switched the sampling rate to 48ksps. 
This is the "native" rate for WSPR - so it was reasonably accurate.   When I 
booted up ARGO, the OS drivers had to somehow downsample the 48ksps hardware 
sampling rate in software (?) to the nominal 5.512ksps rate used by ARGO, a 
process it did with sufficient roughness to produce the very significant 
frequency error.   I proved this by hardware switching to 44.1ksps on the 
external soundcard, upon which the discrepancy from the 48ksps setting WSPR 
reading disappeared.   Note that now (when switched to 44.1ksps), the WSPR 
reading had moved a few ten's of Hz as now the OS drivers had to upsample 
from 44.1ksps to 48ksps.    Worryingly, at the same time, the decoding 
sensitivity on WSPR took a dive.

IMHO - bottom line to this is - if you have a newer PC you are likely to 
have a card based around 48ksps.  This means you are probably good to go 
with WSPR, but may have frequency errors in ARGO.    If you have an older PC 
and/or soundcard it may be based around 44.1ksps, in which case you are good 
to go with ARGO, but there may be frequency errors and poor decoding 
performance on WSPR.

How much of this effect you see will depend on the quality of the 
downsampling/upsampling/interpolating process in the drivers and/or OS. 
You may not see any discrepancy at all - but it is worth checking if you are 
having poor decoding on WSPR.

In my case I can avoid all problems by hardware switching to 44.1ksps when 
using ARGO and 48ksps when using WSPR.

Sorry for the long post.

73 Steve VK2XV

----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 3:09 AM
Subject: LF: RX and Sound Card


> Dear LF Group,
>
> I have just uploaded "RX_Soundcard_cal_v1.pdf" to the files page at the 
> UK500kHz group web site (go to 
> http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/files - it is down at the bottom 
> of the list). This describes a way of calibrating receiver frequency and 
> sound card sampling rate using an off-air standard frequency such as MSF 
> or 198kHz R4, without requiring an accurate audio frequency to calibrate 
> the sound card. This is addressed primarily to WOLF mode transmission and 
> reception, where this calibration has to be done fairly accurately in 
> order for the mode to work properly, but could also be generally useful 
> where sound card sample rate calibration has to be done, and there is no 
> precision audio frequency source available in the shack.
>
> Any comments would be welcome,
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU 



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Only  the  one  decode Roger  at  261 kmt=20

G ..=20



      2009-10-24 16:58   G3XBM   0.503917   -28   0   JO02dg   0.001=
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       2009-10-24 22:42   G3XBM   0.503923   -26   0   JO02dg   0.001=
   G4FDD   IO93kx   212   334 =20




From: Roger Lapthorn=20
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 10:50 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500kHz 1mW WSPR beaconing


Clemens (et al),

Just restarted the 500kHz WSPR beacon (have been out for a few hours)=
 on 0.503910 +/-20Hz.

73s
Roger G3XBM


2009/10/24 Clemens Paul <cpaul@gmx.net>

  Roger,

  what is your exact dial qrg?
  Are you on air at present?
  I'll watch out for your signal.

  73
  Clemens
  DL4RAJ
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Roger Lapthorn=20
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
    Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 5:55 PM
    Subject: LF: 500kHz 1mW WSPR beaconing


    This will be active periodically over the weekend. It would be nic=
e to get a few new reporters spotting me.

    73s
    Roger G3XBM

    --=20
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    http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
    G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088



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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:rog=
erlapthorn@gmail.com&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailto=
:rogerlapthorn@gmail.com">Roger Lapthorn</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, October 24, 2009 10:50 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&#10;=
CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=
.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Re: 500kHz 1mW WSPR beaconing</DIV></DIV>=
</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Clemens (et al),<BR><BR>Just restarted the 500kHz WSPR=
 beacon=20
(have been out for a few hours) on 0.503910 +/-20Hz.<BR><BR>73s<BR>Rog=
er=20
G3XBM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>2009/10/24 Clemens Paul <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&lt;<=
A   href=3D"mailto:cpaul@gmx.net">cpaul@gmx.net</A>&gt;</SPAN><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE   style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; MARGIN=
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Roger,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>what is your exact dial qrg?</FONT>=
</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Are you on air at present?</FONT></=
DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I'll watch out for your signal.</FO=
NT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73<BR>Clemens<BR>DL4RAJ</FONT></DIV=
>
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y: continuous"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Drogerlapthorn@gmail.com href=3D"mailto:rogerlapthorn@gm=
ail.com"       target=3D_blank>Roger Lapthorn</A> </DIV>
    <DIV       style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font=
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    <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org       href=3D"mailto:rsgb_=
lf_group@blacksheep.org"       target=3D_blank>rsgb_lf_group@blackshee=
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    Saturday, October 24, 2009 5:55 PM</DIV>
    <DIV       style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font=
-stretch: normal"><B>Subject:</B>=20
    LF: 500kHz 1mW WSPR beaconing</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>This will be active periodically over the weekend.=
 It would=20
    be nice to get a few new reporters spotting me.<BR><BR>73s<BR>Roge=
r G3XBM<BR       clear=3Dall><BR>--=20
    <BR>-------------------------------------------------------------<=
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ank>http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</A><BR><A       href=3D"http://www.=
g3xbm.co.uk"       target=3D_blank>http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</A><BR>G3XBM=
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    &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;ISWL G11088<BR>
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Very good indeed Mel: we know you are a very experienced and keen CW man
with an excellent station.

An advantage of WSPR is that the transmissions can be monitored for hours
and S/N reports recorded on the internet database. Already the usefulness of
this is clear to me. For example, F5WK has just reported me at 27dB below
Andy. I am a further 100kms away. From this, and other comparisions, I can
get quite a good idea of my ERP relative to "the big boys".

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/10/29 mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>

> I can copy Russian stns during daytime as far away as UA9 at times on 160 m
> which is similar to 600m also the MOSCOW stations can copy me on 600m during
> late afternoon day light on CW. Nothing new about these conditions. This is
> old hat to experenced MF operators.
> I have also been copied on 137 khz during daylight hours in the USA ie
> early evening. using  CW.
> De G3KEV
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe" <
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> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 9:44 AM
> Subject: LF: 500kHz propagation
>
>
>
>  Over the past days I monitored the G4JNT WSPR beacon 24/24.
>> During daytime I have a weak but consistent copy of Andy's signal,
>> average -24dB with ups and down of some dB.
>> During nighttime the signal is -10dB on average, with the usual deep
>> QSB (peaking -1dB, dips down to -20dB).
>> But the most interesting observation is that in the afternoon the
>> first peaks (from -24dB up to -8dB) occur as early as 15:45 UTC.
>> This is almost 1 hour before sunset (16:37 UTC) and almost 1.5 hours
>> before the D-layer (at mid point) goes into darkness.
>>
>> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
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Very good indeed Mel: we know you are a very experienced and keen CW man=
 with an excellent station.<br><br>An advantage of WSPR is that the transm=
issions can be monitored for hours and S/N reports recorded on the interne=
t database. Already the usefulness of this is clear to me. For example, F5=
WK has just reported me at 27dB below Andy. I am a further 100kms away. Fr=
om this, and other comparisions, I can get quite a good idea of my ERP rel=
ative to &quot;the big boys&quot;.<br>
<br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/29 mal ha=
milton <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:g3kevmal@talktalk.net">g3ke=
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I can copy Russian stns during daytime as far away as UA9 at times on 160=
 m which is similar to 600m also the MOSCOW stations can copy me on 600m=
 during late afternoon day light on CW. Nothing new about these conditions=
. This is old hat to experenced MF operators.<br>

I have also been copied on 137 khz during daylight hours in the USA ie ear=
ly evening. using =A0CW.<br>
De G3KEV<br>
<br>
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Over the past days I monitored the G4JNT WSPR beacon 24/24.<br>
During daytime I have a weak but consistent copy of Andy&#39;s signal,<br>
average -24dB with ups and down of some dB.<br>
During nighttime the signal is -10dB on average, with the usual deep<br>
QSB (peaking -1dB, dips down to -20dB).<br>
But the most interesting observation is that in the afternoon the<br>
first peaks (from -24dB up to -8dB) occur as early as 15:45 UTC.<br>
This is almost 1 hour before sunset (16:37 UTC) and almost 1.5 hours<br>
before the D-layer (at mid point) goes into darkness.<br>
<br>
73, Rik =A0ON7YD - OR7T<br>
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    Tnx for the grabbers,

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Thanx Henny,beacon to RN3AGC's grabber without success last night.

F4DTL Nicolas





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Hi LF,
Capture DTL
Henny pa3cpm
73s
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<div>Thanx Henny,beacon to RN3AGC's grabber&nbsp;without success last nigh=
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<div><STRONG>F4DTL Nicolas<br>
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Hi Michael, John,
I am watching here :-

http://www.jbest.net/weather/weatherLightLive.aspx

<http://www.jbest.net/weather/weatherLightLive.aspx>73

Gary - G4WGT.


2009/10/7 Michael Oexner <michael.oexner@web.de>

> Hi,
>
>
> > Looks like some electrical storms in western Europe causing
> > almost total wipe-out of the grabbers here.
>
> > Also lots of loud static crashes on 136kHz.
>
> Have a look at http://www.blitzortung.org/Webpages/index.php
>
>
> --
> vy 73 + gd DX,
>
> Michael
>
>
> RX: ICOM R75, SDR-IQ, Perseus
> Antenna: Wellbrook ALA 1530, Mini-Whip
> Location: Roschbach, Germany N 49=B015' E 8=B007' / Locator JN49BF
>
> ENDBH & NANDBH editor
>
> http://ndbchangeblog.blogspot.com
> http://lwca.org/miscdocs/oexner/2009NDBinfo.zip
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Hi Michael, John,<div><br></div><div>I am watching here :-</div><div><br><=
/div><div><a href=3D"http://www.jbest.net/weather/weatherLightLive.aspx">h=
ttp://www.jbest.net/weather/weatherLightLive.aspx</a></div><div><br></div>=
<div>
<a href=3D"http://www.jbest.net/weather/weatherLightLive.aspx"></a>73</div=
><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT.</div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote">2009/10/7 Michael Oexner <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mic=
hael.oexner@web.de">michael.oexner@web.de</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Hi,<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
<br>
&gt; Looks like some electrical storms in western Europe causing<br>
&gt; almost total wipe-out of the grabbers here.<br>
<br>
&gt; Also lots of loud static crashes on 136kHz.<br>
<br>
</div>Have a look at <a href=3D"http://www.blitzortung.org/Webpages/index.=
php" target=3D"_blank">http://www.blitzortung.org/Webpages/index.php</a><b=
r>
<br>
<br>
--<br>
vy 73 + gd DX,<br>
<br>
Michael<br>
<br>
<br>
RX: ICOM R75, SDR-IQ, Perseus<br>
Antenna: Wellbrook ALA 1530, Mini-Whip<br>
Location: Roschbach, Germany N 49=B015&#39; E 8=B007&#39; / Locator JN49BF=
<br>
<br>
ENDBH &amp; NANDBH editor<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://ndbchangeblog.blogspot.com" target=3D"_blank">http://ndb=
changeblog.blogspot.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://lwca.org/miscdocs/oexner/2009NDBinfo.zip" target=3D"_bla=
nk">http://lwca.org/miscdocs/oexner/2009NDBinfo.zip</a><br>
<br>
<br>
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This will be active periodically over the weekend. It would be nice to get a
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 2009-10-14 18:34  G3XBM  0.503868  -20  0  JO02dg  0.001  G0BPU  JO02ob
 67  110
A new station, G0BPU,  has reported by QRPp beacon on 500kHz. Not quite the
super-DX you guys are talking about but to me it is another minor miracle
with my set-up, HI.

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<table><tbody><tr><td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A02009-10-14 18:34=
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<td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A00=A0</font></td><td align=3D"left"=
><font size=3D"2">=A0JO02dg=A0</font></td><td align=3D"right"><font size=
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=A0</font></td><td align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2">=A0JO02ob=A0</font></td=
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t"><font size=3D"2">=A0110=A0</font></td></tr></tbody></table><br>A new st=
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Hi LF,
ERP increased to 2 watts.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.


2009/10/11 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

> Hi LF,
> I am testing my Class D Tx after a PA fail yesterday.
> Frequency 503.6kHz
> QRS03 at 5 minute intervals & CW ID.
> 1 watt ERP.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.
>

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Hi LF,<div><br></div><div>ERP increased to 2 watts.</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>73</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.</div><div><br><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/11 Gary - G4WGT <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk">g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk</a>&gt;</span><br=
>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Hi LF,<div><br></div><div>I am testing my=
 Class D Tx after a PA fail yesterday.</div><div>Frequency 503.6kHz</div><=
div>
QRS03 at 5 minute intervals &amp; CW ID.</div><div>1 watt ERP.</div><div><=
br></div><div>73</div><div><br>
</div><div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.</div>
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Hi All,

See the WSPR addition to G4WGT grabber list on UK500KHZ Group.

Click on http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers
- or copy & paste it into your browser's address bar if that doesn't
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73

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Hello Marcin!

Full call copied from SP2KDS 1931UTC on 137.7kHz

Good luck!

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
Vaasa / KP03SD


Quoting Marcin <bxi@go2.pl>:

> Hi LF!
> Station SP2KDS will be work today,
> Operation in QRSS will start from 19:00 UTC on 137.700kHz (QRRS3) and
> 137,778kHz (QRSS60).
> Vy 73!
> Marcin SQ2BXI




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hi Henny=20
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good Week
Claude F8boj JN16WA...
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  LF,
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Hello LF!
I see signal from SM6BGP very well. My aerial is EWE (144m square), which=
 is beamed to  NW.

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS


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Hello LF!<br>I see signal from SM6BGP very well. My aerial is EWE (144m sq=
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Typical efficiency of a push pull amp in class AB is 65 to 70%
For class D it is 80-85%, for a class E amp 90-95%.
In theory class E has no losses ... if you could find the perfect switch=
 (no turn-on /  turn-off time, no resistance) and coils.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

________________________________
Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or=
g] namens mal hamilton [g3kevmal@talktalk.net]
Verzonden: maandag 19 oktober 2009 17:42
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: LF: Re: Thanks Brian

A BIT LESS!!!!! at least 50% less than a class D or E, which should yield=
 90% with a proper design.
G3KEV

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From: Chris<mailto:c.ashby435@btinternet.com>
To: RSGB LF Group<mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 4:18 PM
Subject: LF: Thanks Brian

OK Brian, thanks for the info. Yes, I realise the efficiency will be a bit=
 less. Seems different people have had quite different experiences using=
 AF techniques/ready made amps etc.
Thanks, 73,
Chris, G4AYT.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><font color=3D"#000000" size=3D"2" face=3D"Tahoma">Typica=
l efficiency of a push pull amp in class AB is 65 to 70%</font></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"tahoma">For class D it is 80-85%=
, for&nbsp;a class E amp 90-95%.</font></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"tahoma">In theory class E has no=
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"times new roman">73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD - OR7T=
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<font size=3D"2" face=3D"Tahoma"><b>Van:</b> owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshee=
p.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] namens mal hamilton [g3kevmal@t=
alktalk.net]<br>
<b>Verzonden:</b> maandag 19 oktober 2009 17:42<br>
<b>Aan:</b> rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>
<b>Onderwerp:</b> LF: Re: Thanks Brian<br>
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<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">A BIT LESS!!!!! at least 50% less tha=
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<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">G3KEV</font></div>
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<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">OK Brian, thanks for the info. Yes,=
 I realise the efficiency will be a bit less. Seems different people have=
 had quite different experiences using AF techniques/ready made amps etc.<=
/font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Thanks, 73,</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Chris, G4AYT.</font></div>
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Tnx Marcin
I went qrt early but can TX tonite if u are about.
de mal/g3kev

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Mal
Strong copy your 600m signal audio 56 !
Marcin SQ2BXI
):

> Now looking 137.7
> mal/g3kev
>
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> > Hi Mal
> > OK Mal, I search your signal on 500kHz.
> > Vy 73!
> > Marcin SQ2BXI
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> > Operation in QRSS will start from 19:00 UTC on 137.700kHz (QRRS3) and
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> > Vy 73!
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Hi Horst, Mmmmm your problem may not be the antenna it may be your use of
the level measuring set !! A "good" receiver would work well at LF off that
kind of aerial. You must remember that these LMSs have no preselection
because they are intended for measuring telecom line signals, not picking
signals out of the wideband "noise" from an aerial. They probably only have
one selective circuit in them, and then at the IF frequency. Once again
because they are used for line work they do not always have the dynamic
range of a "real" radio receiver and so will produce lots of intermodulation
products particularly if you have strong local singnals anywhere between DC
and 2MHz. For best sensitivity and freedome from extraneous noises you need
to restrain the bandwidth from the antenna to just the minimum you need to
receive, when using that kind of set. They can be good but your location may
be very different in its noise/interference profile to other operators.

Your "best" aerial will need to be chosed from the armoury or loops and
wires and active antennas as the one that best deals with your local
situation.

Best Wishes
Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
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> Hello,
> now that I am happy with my selectiv level meter Praecitronic MV-62 I am
looking for the best receicing antenna.
> Especially I am interested in 400khz, 136kHz, 72kHz and below 22 kHz. With
my 40m longwire reception is not good enough and with a frame antenna of
900m copper wire it was disappointing, too..
> I think, an active antenna for 0 to 500 MHz would be the best for me - but
I am looking forward to any other idea.
> vy73 Horst DO1KHS
> _______________________________________________________________
> Neu: WEB.DE DSL bis 50.000 kBit/s und 200,- Euro Startguthaben!
> http://produkte.web.de/go/02/
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This is also a useful site for lightning activity in Southern UK and Northen
Europe:_

http://www.isleofwightweather.co.uk/live_storm_data.htm

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
  Sent: 08 October 2009 11:02
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  Subject: Re: LF: Electrical Storms


  Hi Roelof,


  Yes, the website http://www.blitzortung.org/Webpages/index.php
  certainly does give us a very wide coverage. The site is now in my
favourites.


  73


  Gary - G4WGT.



  2009/10/8 Roelof Bakker <roelof@ndb.demon.nl>

    Hello Gary,

    Though this is a nice site for thunderstorm watchers, it does not cover
    the main source of wintertime QRN: the Mediterranean!

    And yes at the distance it is still causing a lot of trouble.

    73,
    Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt





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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN class=3D6062247=
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<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
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=3DTahoma     size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
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Hello Dutch friends, Has it this year an LX/PA6Z 137 kHz station as  2006 ?
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Hi Vern
I can look for u on CW or QRS3. I will be qrv tonite on 502.57 kcs CQ in QSO 
mode cw and qrs3. I also listen 7033 kcs for xband
de mal/g3kev


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From: "Vernon" <vmath@eastlink.ca>
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Subject: LF: Re: VE1VDM WSPR spots


> Hi guys...have moved to wspr dial 502.4 @ 2205utc...hope to catch some of
> you...
>
> 73 de Vern - VE1VDM
> FN85ij
>
>


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Hello Pete, LF

> Well I can only conclude it is ADSL because it is
> just raising the noise floor it is=A0very subtle not really identifiable=
 like
> say TV LTB, it's a mush. Frame ants help a bit but not as sensitive at=
 the LW
> by a mile.

> 73 petefmt

I'm also plagued by a "not really identifiable" mush-like noisefloor. In=
 my case
it is not affecting RX on 500kHz badly, at least I seem to hear you guys=
 pretty
well and daytime the band sounds pretty fine. Here the problems start in=
 the
high end of the MW BC band and extends up to about 2600kHz with a constant
level. Above 2600kHz it slowly drops off and at 3000kHz it is more or less
gone.

The noise has no real characteristic, it is like a constant 24/7/365 white=
 noise
(S7 on IC-718 with inverted-L antenna) and I can not D/F it on any of my=
 loops.

I have even disconnected all incoming mains and phone lines to the house=
 just
above earth level and ran the radio from a battery but it is still there..=
.

I have tried to nail this pest many times but always failed so far. A clue=
 to
what kind of technology that could cause white noise in this spectrum woul=
d be
very helpful in the battle.

Thankful for any hints.


Then a word of warning as this may soon affect many of us:

On top of this the local electric company recently installed smart billing
meters in our area running LonTalk over 4800baud FSK PLC on 66.7kHz. The=
 2'nd
harmonic sidebands of this EU approved complete engineering failure piece=
 of
crap technology are now wiping out 136kHz completely daytime... With night=
time
QRN it just about "blends in" when using a 250Hz CW filter. The signal is=
 all
over in every cm of mains wiring indoors too. At least I know my enemy in=
 this
case but being approved technology used for every household means there is=
 very
little to do but live with it.

73

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ






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Hello Laurence, Claude, John,

With my opinion I think that it is the signal of Claude F8BOJ
Perhaps could you see with the synchro with the hour !
the files of my grabber for comparison are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
I looked at the capture of Laurence, it seems that it is the end of the=20
=93J=94 of Claude .

73 qro Jean-Pierre F1AFJ

Laurence BY3A-KL1X China a =E9crit :
> =20
>
> Got this just before dawn - wasnt looking at 137 overnight but switched=
 pre dawn here in China.=20
>
> =20
>
> Dcf39/Mag are way over S9 on a quiet band so I would expect to see Eu si=
gs with 1W ERP or around on a good day. Looks like another at 777.9 too bu=
t very weak.
>
> =20
>
> ps also saw some UNID traces on 503.6khz qrss3 but 500 wasnt so good her=
e as 137kHz
>
> =20
>
> Laurence KL1 X in BY3A OM89UA China
>
> R75 Probe at 80 ft or so.
>
> =20
>
> ps time on trace in GMT  was at end point not when sig seen.
>
> =20
>
> =20
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At 1951z.

F5VLF





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Thanx John, i hope to meet you at Tours Hamfest the next week end.
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hi Valerio..and LF=20
Many thanks for the qso Valerio...ur MM and MMM..
good sunday
Claude F8boj JN16WA

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Walter und Marianne Staubach wrote:

> DI2AG is now in WSPR. TX QRG 505.090, Dial 503.590. Pwr 0.5W ERP.
> Please listen to my beacon.
>  
> 73   Walter    DI2AG / DJ2LF
>  

Dear Walter, LF group
it is my first decode of ur wspr beacon:

2054 -15  2.4   0.505092  0 DI2AG JN59 27
of course, it was also sent to wspr database
i will stay here ( i mean on your qrg) for the next hour ( with 
automatic upload to wspr database)
 and later  will  qsy to  502.4 to observe  other wspr transmissions
                   
                                     73 de Piotr, sq7mpj
qth: Lodz /jo91rs/

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Walter und Marianne Staubach wrote:
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  <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">DI2AG is now in WSPR. TX QRG
505.090, Dial 503.590. Pwr 0.5W ERP.</font></div>
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Dear Walter, LF group<br>
it is my first decode of ur wspr beacon:<br>
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2054 -15=C2=A0 2.4=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.505092=C2=A0 0 DI2AG JN59 27<br>
of course, it was also sent to wspr database <br>
i will stay here ( i mean on your qrg) for the next hour ( with
automatic upload to wspr database) <br>
=C2=A0and later=C2=A0 will=C2=A0 qsy to=C2=A0 502.4 to observe=C2=A0 other=
 wspr transmissions<br>
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=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
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 73 de Piotr, sq7mpj<br>
qth: Lodz /jo91rs/<br>
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Hello Chris,
Capture at 3.42z (local time 7.48).
The trace was visible till 4.10z.

73 Andrey

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Thank you Jean-Pierre for the 'grabber' !

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On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 7:33 AM, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)"
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> Hello Henny and all ,
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> Yes good copy of XGJ ! also XES visible last night on my grabber !
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> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
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> henny van elst a =E9crit :
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>> Hi Warren,LF
>> Capture XGJ,
>> Henny pa3cpm
>> best 73s
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Cheers for the info.   60 day wait then!!

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
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Subject: Re: LF: Grimeton?

 

Hi Jim, LF,

 

Copy of message from Lars (below).

 

73

 

Gary - G4WGT.

 

 

Grimeton Radio/SAQ transmission CW on VLF 17.2 kHz

 

 

We deeply regret we have to cancel the previously announced transmission on
United Nations Day, October 24th 2009.

 

Next planned transmission will be on Christmas Eve, December 24th 2009, at
08:00 UTC.

 

 

 

Lars

SM6NM

 

 

 

2009/10/21 Roelof Bakker <roelof@ndb.demon.nl>

Hello Jim,

I have seen a message that this transmission has been cancelled.
And yes, your mini-whip will do.

I even used it with Johan Bodin's great program directly fed into my
soundcard.

Best regards,
Roelof, pa0rdt

 


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ds</span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o=
:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New Rom=
an"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New Rom=
an"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><b><font size=3D6 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Fr=
eestyle Script"><span style=3D'font-size:24.0pt;font-family:"Freestyle=
 Script";color:navy'>Jim</span></font></b></strong><font color=3Dnavy>=
<span style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New Rom=
an"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></font></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New Rom=
an"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font><o=
:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></fon=
t></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:Tahoma'> owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</st1:PersonName> [mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">=
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName>] <b><span style=3D'font-=
weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Gary - G4WGT<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 21 October 2009=
 21:15<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:s=
t=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: LF: Grimet=
on?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>Hi Jim, LF,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>Copy of message from Lars (below).<o:p></o:p>=
</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>73<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>Gary - G4WGT.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><b><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman=
"><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></=
b></strong><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><b><u><font size=3D5 face=3D"Times New Ro=
man"><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:16.0pt'>Grimeton Radio/SAQ=
 transmission CW on VLF
17.2 kHz</span></font></u></b></strong><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><b><font size=3D5 face=3D"Times New Roman=
"><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:16.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></=
b></strong><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lan=
g=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>We deeply regret we have to&nbsp;=
<u>cancel</u>&nbsp;the
previously announced transmission on United Nations Day,&nbsp;October=
 24<sup>th</sup>&nbsp;2009.</span><o:p></o:p></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lan=
g=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></font></=
p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lan=
g=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Next planned transmission will be=
 on Christmas
Eve,&nbsp;December 24<sup>th</sup>&nbsp;2009, at&nbsp;08:00 UTC.</span=
><o:p></o:p></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lan=
g=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></font></=
p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lan=
g=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></font></=
p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lan=
g=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></font></=
p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3Dil><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New=
 Roman"><span style=3D'background-image:initial;background-repeat:init=
ial;background-attachment: initial;-webkit-background-clip: initial;-w=
ebkit-background-origin: initial; background-position:initial initial'=
><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:12.0pt; background:#FFFFCC'>Lar=
s</span></span></font></span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lan=
g=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>SM6NM</span><o:p></o:p></font></p=
>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lan=
g=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></font></=
p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><b><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman=
"><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></=
b></strong><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>2009/10/21 Roelof Bakker &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:roelof@ndb.demon.nl">roelof@ndb.demon.nl</a>&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></=
font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D3 fac=
e=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Hello Jim,<br>
<br>
I have seen a message that this transmission has been cancelled.<br>
And yes, your mini-whip will do.<br>
<br>
I even used it with Johan Bodin's great program directly fed into my=
 soundcard.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
Roelof, pa0rdt<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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Hi Peter

Thanks for the call last  night ..very deep  qso and  static , anything 
from a good  559  when you  called to  zero .. doubled once . lost you at 
the  end

Qth Wallasey  IO83LK

73 - Graham



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From: "Peter Dodd" <g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk>
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 11:15 AM
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Subject: Re: LF: G3LDO 501.1

>
> Hello Paul and Jay:
> Thanks for the reports - I didn't pick a very good evening! However I
> have reason to believe the antenna and the transmitter are working OK so
> I will be trying again.
>
> Regards
>
> Peter, G3LDO
>> Hello Peter, Jay, LF
>>
>> I had the radio tuned to 501.1kHz for a couple of hours last night but 
>> found the
>> signal to be weakish for a close to legal limit ERP UK station under 
>> normal/good
>> conditions. The signal was very stable with no deep QSB over the period I
>> followed it.
>>
>> I know it is impossible to make a proper estimation like this, just 
>> wanted to
>> add my reception result. Perhaps something wasn't working as 
>> intended/announced
>> or then it was just condx changing for the worse after a good period 
>> lasting
>> several days.
>>
>>
>> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
>> Vaasa / KP03SD
>>
>>
>> Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:
>>
>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> Sorry...nothing seen. T storms over Atlantic generating some pretty good
>>> static levels.
>>>
>>> Jay
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>



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Bonjour John and ALL
Many thanks for the good report
Good afternoon
Merci John
Claude F8boj JN16WA
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> At 0930z.
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Hello JPierre and ALL
     it is absolutely jpierre 22H15 UTC my money for this error yes ye=
s the
sun that rises on China and lies on the Maine
      Good Night all
      Claude F8boj JN16WA


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
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Hello Claude and all ,

I think that you want to say  22:15 UTC !
Attention , at this hour will be the sunrise in China !

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

claude Berthebaud a =E9crit :
> Good Morning LF
> The BOJ Beacon 137776.2hz Qrss60 is open from 10:15 UT
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Hello J-P,John,Andrey,
also here the big signal,
best 73s
henny pa3cpm
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello J-P,John,Andrey,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>also here the big signal,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het 
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Hi LF,
Capture XES
Henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
XES 03-10.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi LF,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Capture XES</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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Hello Warren,LF
Capture XGJ
Henny cpm
best 73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello Warren,LF</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Capture XGJ</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het 
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> Vern
> Nw active QRS3 and CW on 502.57 if that is any help.
> VE1JG has often hrd me in the past.
> 73 de mal/g3kev
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Hi All,
Just started constructing TX for 136kHz, noticed Maplin do a Velleman=
 audio PA kit that is rated at 200W (100W RMS into 4R). OK there's no=
 mains transformer or heat sink, but reckon it's good value at =A314.9=
9. Point is the specs also say the minus 3db frequency response is 3Hz=
 / 200kHz.
The RSGB books 'LF Today' refer to using audio amps as PAs at 136 with=
 'a few modifications'. Does anybody know where these modifications ar=
e documented? I guess there's nothing major, reduce a few cap values?=
 Remove Zobel Network etc.?? If anyone has experience with this approa=
ch I would appreciate some hints. Thanks.
Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable.

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Hi All,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Just started constructing TX for 136k=
Hz, noticed=20
Maplin do a Velleman audio PA kit that is rated at 200W (100W RMS into=
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there's no mains transformer or heat sink, but reckon it's good value=
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 Thanks for the latest report Ha-jo.
I have been working on the antenna ground and got an extra .5amps 
antenna current since your previous report.

regards

Peter, G3LDO
>
> around 22.20 UTC on October 13th, 2009 G3LDO audible in QRSS RST 579 fb
> in JN68GN, eastern Bavaria.
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> 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB
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David,

>As an interested observer from the other side of the pond, how do you
determine that you are close to the ERP limit??
>I'd be interested in knowing as I am trying to do some pro-bono work for
the ARRL on getting use of 137 kHz here in the USA.

         I am running 4Watts ERP (measured, using field strength)  on 137
kHz and this seems to be the minimum needed for someone on the East Coast to
be copied in Europe on a fairly reliable basis using very slow QRSS speeds.
I am licensed for 10W ERP and will try to get closer to that power level
this Fall.   If you want to work across the pond from further inland or use
faster cw than MORE power will be needed.

           I am very very worried that the ARRL will settle for 1 Watt ERP
(or worse 1 W EIRP).!
           This would be a BIG MISTAKE!
           About 10 years ago the ARRL was turned down for a 137 kHz ham
band on the basis that it would interfere with power line carrier systems
and take down the grid. Now 8 years after 9/11 it would be ironic if the
grid was still susceptible to interference from hams!
              I live 900 feet from a high power transmission line which has
Power Line Carrier signals on it and I haven't caused any interference in 5
years operation at the 4W ERP level.

            Bottom line  - get AT LEAST 10W ERP for hams - there is NO
REASON TO SETTLE FOR LESS!


-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
               WD2XGJ
               WD2XSH/23
               WE2XEB/2
               WE2XGR/1



On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:17 PM, David Weinreich <
David.Weinreich@globalstar.com> wrote:

>  Peter,
>
> As an interested observer from the other side of the pond, how do you
> determine that you are close to the ERP limit?? I'd be interested in knowing
> as I am trying to do some pro-bono work for the ARRL on getting use of 137
> kHz here in the USA.
>
> Tnx & 73,
>
> David Weinreich
> WA2VUJ/3
>
> >>>
>   *From: * Peter Dodd <g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk>
> *To:* <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> *Date: * 10/07/09 3:09 PM
>  *Subject: * LF:  Re Propagation report
> Hi Jay,
> I will be sending a beacon signal QRSS3 on 501.1kHz until 2330z.
> I have modified my old PL519 TV sweep tube transmitter which ran about
> 60 to 70W. It now has two PL519s in parallel running 120W.
> I have taken down the HF quad until the sunspots wake up a bit and
> reinstalled the antenna used for 73/136kHz so I am now running close to
> the new ERP limit.
>
>
> Peter, G3LDO
>
>
> > Mal
> >
> > I check your frequency. Sunset here isn't until 2230Z...what time do
> > you QRT?
> >
> > How about a beacon signal? ;~)
> >
> > Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net
> >
> > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 11:34 AM
> > Subject: LF: Re: Propagation report
> >
> >
> >> Warren
> >> Great propagation around EU and Russia at present on 500. I have been
> >> copied in Russia and eastern EU while daylight here, also 160m is
> >> good with daytime reception and QSO'S as far as the Moscow area
> >> Probably good to the west but not sure if anyone is monitoring in the
> >> USA during evening time here.
> >> 73 de mal/g3kev
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
> >> To: "rsgb_lf_group" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 4:18 PM
> >> Subject: LF: Propagation report
> >>
> >>
> >>> I have noted that Alan Melia has not updated his propagation  report
> >>> since the 7th of July!
> >>> Hope all is well with Alan!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> 73 Warren K2ORS
> >>>                WD2XGJ
> >>>                WD2XSH/23
> >>>                WE2XEB/2
> >>>                WE2XGR/1
> >>>
> >>
> >>
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David,<br><br>&gt;As an interested observer from the other side of the pon=
d, how do you
determine that you are close to the ERP limit?? <br>&gt;I&#39;d be interes=
ted in
knowing as I am trying to do some pro-bono work for the ARRL on getting
use of 137 kHz here in the USA.<br><br>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 I am runni=
ng 4Watts ERP (measured, using field strength)=A0 on 137 kHz and this seem=
s to be the minimum needed for someone on the East Coast to be copied in=
 Europe on a fairly reliable basis using very slow QRSS speeds. I am licen=
sed for 10W ERP and will try to get closer to that power level this Fall.=
=A0=A0 If you want to work across the pond from further inland or use fast=
er cw than MORE power will be needed.<br>
<br>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 I am very very worried that the ARRL wi=
ll settle for 1 Watt ERP (or worse 1 W EIRP).! <br>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
=A0=A0=A0 This would be a BIG MISTAKE!<br>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
 About 10 years ago the ARRL was turned down for a 137 kHz ham band on the=
 basis that it would interfere with power line carrier systems and take do=
wn the grid. Now 8 years after 9/11 it would be ironic if the grid was sti=
ll susceptible to interference from hams!<br>
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 I live 900 feet from a high power=
 transmission line which has Power Line Carrier signals on it and I haven&=
#39;t caused any interference in 5 years operation at the 4W ERP level.<br=
><br>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Bottom line=A0 - get AT LEAST 10W=
 ERP for hams - there is NO REASON TO SETTLE FOR LESS!<br>
<br><br>-- <br>73 Warren K2ORS<br> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WD2XGJ=
 <br> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WD2XSH/23<br> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=
 =A0 =A0WE2XEB/2<br> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WE2XGR/1<br><br><br><b=
r><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:17 PM, David Weinrei=
ch <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:David.Weinreich@globalstar.com"=
>David.Weinreich@globalstar.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">


<div style=3D"margin: 4px 4px 1px; font-family: Tahoma; font-style: normal=
; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height:=
 normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">
<div>Peter, </div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>As an interested observer from the other side of the pond, how do you=
 determine that you are close to the ERP limit?? I&#39;d be interested in=
 knowing as I am trying to do some pro-bono work for the ARRL on getting=
 use of 137 kHz here in the USA.</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>Tnx &amp; 73,</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>David Weinreich </div>
<div>WA2VUJ/3<br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; </div>
<div style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(5, 5, 5); margin: 0px 0px 0px 15p=
x; padding-left: 7px; background-color: rgb(243, 243, 243);">
<table style=3D"font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal;=
 font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;" bgcolor=3D"#f3f3f3">
<tbody>
<tr valign=3D"top">
<td><b>From: </b></td>
<td>Peter Dodd &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk" target=3D"_blan=
k">g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk</a>&gt;</td></tr><td><div class=3D"im">
</div><tr valign=3D"top">
<td><b>To:</b></td>
<td>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank">=
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>&gt;</td></tr>
<tr valign=3D"top">
<td><b>Date: </b></td>
<td>10/07/09 3:09 PM</td></tr><td><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">
</div></div><tr valign=3D"top">
<td><b>Subject: </b></td>
<td>LF:=A0 Re Propagation report</td></tr></td></td></tbody></table><div><=
div></div><div class=3D"h5">Hi Jay,<br>I will be sending a beacon signal=
 QRSS3 on 501.1kHz until 2330z.<br>I have modified my old PL519 TV sweep=
 tube transmitter which ran about <br>
60 to 70W. It now has two PL519s in parallel running 120W.<br>I have taken=
 down the HF quad until the sunspots wake up a bit and <br>reinstalled the=
 antenna used for 73/136kHz so I am now running close to <br>the new ERP=
 limit.<br>
<br><br>Peter, G3LDO<br><br><br>&gt; Mal<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I check your freq=
uency. Sunset here isn&#39;t until 2230Z...what time do <br>&gt; you QRT?<=
br>&gt;<br>&gt; How about a beacon signal? ;~)<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Jay W1VD=A0=
 WD2XNS=A0 WE2XGR/2<br>
&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; ----- Original Message ----- From: &quot;mal hamilton=
&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:g3kevmal@talktalk.net" target=3D"_blank">g3ke=
vmal@talktalk.net</a>&gt;<br>&gt; To: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@=
blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 11:34 AM<br>&gt; Subject: LF: Re:=
 Propagation report<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; Warren<br>&gt;&gt; Great=
 propagation around EU and Russia at present on 500. I have been <br>&gt;&=
gt; copied in Russia and eastern EU while daylight here, also 160m is <br>
&gt;&gt; good with daytime reception and QSO&#39;S as far as the Moscow ar=
ea<br>&gt;&gt; Probably good to the west but not sure if anyone is monitor=
ing in the <br>&gt;&gt; USA during evening time here.<br>&gt;&gt; 73 de ma=
l/g3kev<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; ----- Original Message ----- From: &quot;Warren Ziegl=
er&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wd2xgj@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">wd2xgj@=
gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; To: &quot;rsgb_lf_group&quot; &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 4:18 PM<br>&gt;&gt; Subject: LF=
: Propagation report<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; I have noted=
 that Alan Melia has not updated his propagation=A0 report<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;=
 since the 7th of July!<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Hope all is well with Alan!<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;<b=
r>&gt;&gt;&gt; -- <br>&gt;&gt;&gt; 73 Warren K2ORS<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;=A0=A0=
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 WD2XGJ<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;=A0=A0=A0=A0=
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 WD2XSH/23<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 WE2XEB/2<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 WE2XGR/1<br>&gt;=
&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; -----------------------------=
--------------------------------------------------- <br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&g=
t;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; No virus found in this incoming message.<br>&gt;&gt; Checked by=
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 <br>
&gt;&gt; 10/07/09 05:18:00<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;=
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Greetings -=20

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Reasonable at MF towards Eu but spoilt by QRM at my end. QRM is coming fro=
m a wayward overmodulated/driven MF coast station that should know better.=
.

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Decodes from Gus

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This was a peak of signals from Gus - the "opening" lasted about an hour=
 (abt my 0300 local) or so with an abrupt increase and slow fade out - Som=
e evidence of other WSPR carriers on assigned freqs but no decode.

=20

=20

137 was quiet with  "W" on DFCW of probably WPF coming thru strongly till=
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Tonight will be my last night here "MFLing and "LFLing" in China for a few=
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<TD align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D1>&nbsp;BY3A&nbsp;</FONT></TD>
<TD align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D1>&nbsp;OM89ua&nbsp;</FONT></TD>
<TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D1>&nbsp;7254&nbsp;</FONT></TD>
<TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D1>&nbsp;55&nbsp;</FONT></TD></TR>
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<TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D1>&nbsp;2009-10-21 19:14&nbsp;</FONT></TD>
<TD align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D1>&nbsp;SM6BHZ&nbsp;</FONT></TD>
<TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;<FONT size=3D1>0.503924&nbsp;</FONT></TD>
<TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D1>&nbsp;-24&nbsp;</FONT></TD>
<TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D1>&nbsp;0&nbsp;</FONT></TD>
<TD align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D1>&nbsp;JO57wq&nbsp;</FONT></TD>
<TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D1>&nbsp;1&nbsp;</FONT></TD>
<TD align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D1>&nbsp;BY3A&nbsp;</FONT></TD>
<TD align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D1>&nbsp;OM89ua&nbsp;</FONT></TD>
<TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D1>&nbsp;7254&nbsp;</FONT></TD>
<TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D1>&nbsp;55&nbsp;</FONT></TD></TR></TBODY></=
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&nbsp;<BR>
This was a peak of signals from Gus - the "opening" lasted about an hour=
 (abt my 0300 local) or so with an abrupt increase and slow fade out - Som=
e evidence of other WSPR carriers on assigned freqs but no decode.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
137 was quiet with&nbsp; "W" on DFCW of probably WPF coming thru strongly=
 till after my dawn - no Western Eu stations fully decoded but some charac=
ters.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Tonight will be my last night here "MFLing and "LFLing"&nbsp;in China for=
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&nbsp;<BR>
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Hello Finbar, Niels, Mal, Hallo LF / MF;

 

Received following calls on MF (501.7 kHz) in CW-Mode:

 

ON8NJ,            Niels:               5 5 9;

EI0CF,              Finbar:              3 3 9; but 100% readable!

G3KEV             Mal:                 4 4 9

 

vy 73 de Gerhard  //  DK6NI  (JN59LN)

 

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Hello LF

501.4kHz, 20091030 2100UTC:

Just receiving SM6BGP in JO67IK. Seems to be in becaon mode CW + QRSS.

Good signal on 1 x 1 metre square loop with homemade 2 x 2N5109 loop ampli=
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New callsign for me on this band, good luck with the operation.


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Hi Paul-Henrik
Thanks for capture Paul-Henrik
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Marcin SQ2BXI


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Hello Warren, Lubos, LF,
Capture at 0.30.

73 Andrey


> Hello Warren, LF!
> I saw part of your callsign only.
> 
> Lubos, OK2BVG 

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Roger Lapthorn wrote:
> Just seen Rik's decode and now this!!!!!
>
>  2009-10-17 19:14      G3XBM       0.503936    -26     0       JO02dg  
>  0.001     GM4SLV      IP90gg      896     354 
>
>
> This is staggering!!!
>
>

Hi Roger et al

Pleased to detect you last night. Good propagation to the US as well 
apparently. W17XSH heard for long periods.

My first try with WSPR.

73

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Nicolas,
If there is a possibility, too try. Propagation good, for
certain and your signal here will be visible.

73 Andrey



> Hello Henny and Andrey.
> Henny congratulations, what's your power out and kind of antenna on  2200m ?
> 
> 
> 
> F4DTL  Nicolas JN18FP
> 
> RX : Icom IC7400
> Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010
> 
> _http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/_ (http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/) 
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Im going to leave the China receiver in the US/World Watering hole for a=
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nae holds up.

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Dear Pete, Paul-Henrik,

M0FMT wrote:
....> Well I can only conclude it is ADSL because it is just raising the 
noise floor it is very subtle not really identifiable like say TV LTB, it's 
a mush...>

I have problems with ADSL on 500kHz at my QTH - it sounds like "white noise" 
with no audible distinctive features I can detect. The noise can be about 
10 - 20dB over the band noise here over a fairly wide bandwidth in the MF 
range. It does not seem to be a problem at 136k, perhaps because this is in 
the guard band between upstream and downstream ADSL signals. It is easy to 
tell if you are experiencing noise from your own ADSL connection - 
disconnect the incoming phone line (probably just unplugging the modem from 
the phone socket will be enough) and there will be a reduction in noise 
level. Unfortunately, there also seems to be a significant level of similar 
noise here from other sources, probably my neighbors' ADSL via the overhead 
phone lines.

I have had some success with a noise-cancelling arrangement here, where the 
ADSL noise is sampled using a current transformer made by passing the 
incoming phone line through a ferrite core, and summed with the signal from 
loop antennas via a variable phase-shifting and gain-adjusting network, 
which is adjusted for a null in the noise. Also, moving the loop around the 
QTH shows some positions are better than others. Actually, life is a bit 
more complicated at this particular QTH, since there also seems to be 
wide-band noise originating as very low-level sidebands from the local 
broadcast stations. This requires a second noise-cancelling network to null 
noise from that direction. Also, it was necessary to insert a relay in 
series with the loading coil to disconnect the TX antenna on receive, 
otherwise this coupled more noise into the receiving antennas. But when it 
is all adjusted properly, the overall noise level can be reduced in 
favourable directions by about 20dB, which is worth doing.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Chris

See links below...audio amps used on LF, MF. These Hafler amps were selected 
because they are rated to 300 kHz right out of the box. Probably won't find 
similar performance in very many amps. I only use the Haflers for modes 
requiring linear amplification - otherwise I run a class D setup.

http://www.w1vd.com/page21.html

http://www.w1vd.com/page23.html

http://www.w1vd.com/9505MF.html

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Chris
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 10:11 AM
  Subject: LF: Re: Re: AF Amps at 136


  Thanks for your comments Mal, I did wonder if such an approach was wise. 
Let's see what others have to say on the matter. I also have my suspicions 
about FETs in class D and the level of crud that could result.
  Thanks again.
  Chris, G4AYT.
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: mal hamilton
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
    Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 2:49 PM
    Subject: LF: Re: AF Amps at 136


    Chris
    Do  not use audio amps for RF. Build a class D or E amp and operate 
trouble free. Audio amps were tried by some in the early days but never 
worked properly.
    Read the horror stories of yesteryears about using audio amps for RF 
applications. Buckets of burnt out FETS.
    73 De Mal/g3kev

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Chris
      To: RSGB LF Group
      Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 2:13 PM
      Subject: LF: AF Amps at 136


      Hi All,
      Just started constructing TX for 136kHz, noticed Maplin do a Velleman 
audio PA kit that is rated at 200W (100W RMS into 4R). OK there's no mains 
transformer or heat sink, but reckon it's good value at £14.99. Point is the 
specs also say the minus 3db frequency response is 3Hz / 200kHz.
      The RSGB books 'LF Today' refer to using audio amps as PAs at 136 with 
'a few modifications'. Does anybody know where these modifications are 
documented? I guess there's nothing major, reduce a few cap values? Remove 
Zobel Network etc.?? If anyone has experience with this approach I would 
appreciate some hints. Thanks.
      Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable.


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>See links below...audio=20
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setup.&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A   href=3D"http://www.w1vd.com/page=
21.html">http://www.w1vd.com/page21.html</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A   href=3D"http://www.w1vd.com/page=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A   href=3D"http://www.w1vd.com/9505=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jay W1VD&nbsp; WD2XNS&nbsp; WE2XGR/2<=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for your comments Mal, I did=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks again.</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Do&nbsp; not use audio amps for=
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Read the horror stories of yester=
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 De Mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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g major,=20
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I can copy Russian stns during daytime as far away as UA9 at times on 160 m 
which is similar to 600m also the MOSCOW stations can copy me on 600m during 
late afternoon day light on CW. Nothing new about these conditions. This is 
old hat to experenced MF operators.
I have also been copied on 137 khz during daylight hours in the USA ie early 
evening. using  CW.
De G3KEV

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Over the past days I monitored the G4JNT WSPR beacon 24/24.
> During daytime I have a weak but consistent copy of Andy's signal,
> average -24dB with ups and down of some dB.
> During nighttime the signal is -10dB on average, with the usual deep
> QSB (peaking -1dB, dips down to -20dB).
> But the most interesting observation is that in the afternoon the
> first peaks (from -24dB up to -8dB) occur as early as 15:45 UTC.
> This is almost 1 hour before sunset (16:37 UTC) and almost 1.5 hours
> before the D-layer (at mid point) goes into darkness.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
>


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hi Ossy and LF
the signal is still very strong at 10:32 you ... 
Good weekend and thank you  good qso ... 
pleasure
Claude F8boj JN16WA



> hallo claude many thanks fer nice qso es  bic here
> your signal is very strong comming up 25 db over nois !
> 73 and cuagn de ossy
> 
> Claude Berthebaud schrieb:
>> HI Oswald and LF
>> good morning wald..
>> very good copy trong signal in 137 khz
>> many thanks for the qso and gud week and
>> Claude F8boj JN16WA
>>
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> 
>



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Hello Nicolas
just moved on your frequency now. Condx are very strange - up and
down. Sometimes you are "O"! At the beginning I could hardly see you.
On essay une autre fois. 73 de Toni

2009/10/24, F4DTL@aol.com <F4DTL@aol.com>:
> Hello Toni many thanx for yur call but i have difficults to receive you
> this evening,strong QRM by a broadcast station,i dont know why,maybe the
> Luxemburg effect.Very strange !!!
>
> I hope a better contact with you a next time.
>
> See you later Toni.
>
> F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP
>


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Try QSO mode. Beacons only generate QRM for QSO operators.
g3kev

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Good folks,

  Some advice please. I am about to organise some keyer ICs for beacon=
ing in QRSS on 500kHz and 136kHz. Is there a standard message format=
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  I was proposing to use G3XBM JO02DG or just G3XBM . Is this OK?

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  Roger G3XBM



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Hello Henny, LF!
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On 02/10/2009 at 18:45 mal hamilton wrote:

>The colour scheme seems sensible but in the UK I have never seen RED and=
=20
>WHITE masts. They are GREY regardless of height ie Rugby and Droitwich an=
d=20
>others. The old 300 ft radar masts on the South coast were just plain woo=
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>colour.
>de mal/g3kev

Most of those I have seen in France are red and white.

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Hello Claude
very strong this morning. 15uV, Q5 at 100Hz BW. Thank you for the this
first QSO. Jeff was also audible with 10uV and also Q5.
I was using 1KW into an Inverted L, 55m long, only 12m high. RX Icom
IC756 ProIII
73 de Toni, HB9ASB

2009/10/11, Claude Berthebaud <f8boj@club-internet.fr>:
> Hi Lubos and LF group
> Many thanks for the report .
> i am in qso with HB9ASB hello toni ur "O"+
> good sunday for all
> Claude F8boj
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Lubos OK2BVG
>   To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>   Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 11:06 AM
>   Subject: LF: F8BOJ
>
>
>   There is the next good signal on 137.740kHz >> F8BOJ.
>
>   Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
>
>
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The USA listing is incorrect.
The WD2XSH stations operate from 495-505 kHz, cw and narrow data (PSK WSPR)
up to 20W ERP
The WE2XGR stations operate from 505-515 kHz cw, data and ssb up to 200 W
ERP.
Other stations generally operate 505-510kHz at 20W ERP.
-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
               WD2XGJ
               WD2XSH/23
               WE2XEB/2
               WE2XGR/1





On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 5:29 AM, John RABSON <john.rabson@numeo.fr> wrote:

>  The following table was published in "500kHz and Cave Radio", CREGJ issue
> 70, March 2008, p9.
>
> Please advise of any errors.
>
> 73,
> F5VLF/G3PAI
>
>
> Country
>
> kHz
>
> E(I)RP
>
> USA
>
> 505-514
>
> Up to 1200W*
>
> UK
>
> 501-504
>
> 1W
>
> Germany
>
> 440, 505-505.2
>
> 9W
>
> Belgium
>
> 501-504
>
> 5W
>
> Sweden
>
> 505-505.2
>
> 1W
>
> Czech Rep
>
> 505-505.2
>
> 1W
>
> * transmitter output power
>
>
>

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The USA listing is incorrect.<br>The WD2XSH stations operate from 495-505=
 kHz, cw and narrow data (PSK WSPR) up to 20W ERP<br>The WE2XGR stations=
 operate from 505-515 kHz cw, data and ssb up to 200 W ERP.<br>Other stati=
ons generally operate 505-510kHz at 20W ERP.<br>
-- <br>73 Warren K2ORS<br> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WD2XGJ <br> =A0=
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WD2XSH/23<br> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0W=
E2XEB/2<br> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WE2XGR/1<br><br> <br><br><br><b=
r><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 5:29 AM, John RABSON=
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<div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff" text=3D"#000000">
<div>The following table was published in &quot;500kHz and Cave Radio&quot=
;,=20
CREGJ=A0issue 70, March 2008, p9.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Please advise of any errors.</div>
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<div>73,</div>
<div>F5VLF/G3PAI<br>=A0</div>
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      <p lang=3D"en-GB"><font color=3D"#000000"><font style=3D"font-size:=
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      <p align=3D"left" lang=3D"en-GB"><font color=3D"#000000"><font style=
=3D"font-size: 9pt;" size=3D"2">USA</font></font></p></td>
    <td width=3D"85">
      <p align=3D"left" lang=3D"en-GB"><font color=3D"#000000"><font style=
=3D"font-size: 9pt;" size=3D"2">505-514</font></font></p></td>
    <td width=3D"112">
      <p align=3D"left" lang=3D"en-GB"><font color=3D"#000000"><font style=
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      <p lang=3D"en-GB"><font color=3D"#000000"><font style=3D"font-size:=
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    <td width=3D"112">
      <p lang=3D"en-GB"><font color=3D"#000000"><font style=3D"font-size:=
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      <p align=3D"left" lang=3D"en-GB"><font color=3D"#000000"><font style=
=3D"font-size: 9pt;" size=3D"2">Germany</font></font></p></td>
    <td width=3D"85">
      <p lang=3D"en-GB"><font color=3D"#000000"><font style=3D"font-size:=
 9pt;" size=3D"2">440,=20
      </font></font><font size=3D"2">505-505.2</font></p></td>
    <td width=3D"112">
      <p lang=3D"en-GB"><font color=3D"#000000"><font style=3D"font-size:=
 9pt;" size=3D"2">9W</font></font></p></td></tr>
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      <p align=3D"left" lang=3D"en-GB"><font color=3D"#000000"><font style=
=3D"font-size: 9pt;" size=3D"2">Belgium</font></font></p></td>
    <td width=3D"85">
      <p lang=3D"en-GB"><font color=3D"#000000"><font style=3D"font-size:=
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    <td width=3D"112">
      <p lang=3D"en-GB"><font color=3D"#000000"><font style=3D"font-size:=
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      <p align=3D"left" lang=3D"en-GB"><font color=3D"#000000"><font style=
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    <td width=3D"85">
      <p lang=3D"en-GB"><font color=3D"#000000"><font style=3D"font-size:=
 9pt;" size=3D"2">505-505.2</font></font></p></td>
    <td width=3D"112">
      <p lang=3D"en-GB"><font color=3D"#000000"><font style=3D"font-size:=
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      <p align=3D"left" lang=3D"en-GB"><font color=3D"#000000"><font style=
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    <td width=3D"85">
      <p lang=3D"en-GB"><font color=3D"#000000"><font style=3D"font-size:=
 9pt;" size=3D"2">505-505.2</font></font></p></td>
    <td width=3D"112">
      <p lang=3D"en-GB"><font color=3D"#000000"><font style=3D"font-size:=
 9pt;" size=3D"2">1W</font></font></p></td></tr></tbody></table>=20
<p style=3D"margin-bottom: 0cm;">* transmitter output power</p>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom: 0cm;">=A0</p></div>

</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br><br>

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Henny,

> Hello Andrey,
> the antenne is a sloper,only 14 meter,and the power 200watt,

Surprisingly! 14 metres are a height of a mast or length of a wire?

so tnx for the 
> grabber again,and all the best.
> henny pa3cpm
> best 73s.

The grabber is switched on. But till 21.00z there will be QRM from broadcasting station.

73 Andrey


> 
>> Hi Henny, LF!
>> Henny, in the morning I have been pleasantly surprised, having seen your 
>> signal.
>> Last night received also F8BOJ and UA9CS.
>> The next night the grabber too will work. Further till Monday it is OFF.
>> Tomorrow I leave in KO86NP. The receiver there will be included every
>> evening from 21.00. I hope, the air there will be purer, than in Moscow.
>> I will inform results SWL when I will return, on Sunday or Monday.
>> Excuse me for bad English:)
>>
>> 73 Andrey
>>
>>
>>> Hi Andrey,LF,
>>> TNX for the grabber,
>>> antenne sloper,200 watt 2150km
>>> Henny pa3cpm
>>> best 73s
>>
>>
>>
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Roger Lapthorn wrote:
>  2009-10-17 16:04  G3XBM  0.503920  -25  0  JO02dg  0.001  G0KTN  IO81ti
>  210  242
> 210kms - brilliant!!! Thanks G0KTN.
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> 73s
> Roger G3XBM
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Gotcha!

19:14 G3XBM 0.503936 -26 0 JO02dg 0.001 GM4SLV IP90gg 896

Only 896km!

Well done Roger!

John
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hallo lf
last night was testing my new antenna thanks for the reports
qrss3 was closed so i try on the other window ,ok my osci is not stabil 
but for testing my antenna it was ok
so special thanks all  LFfriends for running grabbers its a good help 
for newcomers to build a good antenna .
will try again to make a good signal stabil ore not .LW is a lovely way 
to be a HAM !
ps congrates to andrey ,read my call !


Andrey rn3agc schrieb:
> Henny, John, Jean-Pierre,
> Possibly, it OE5ODL...
> OE5ODL at 00.35 (my capture, 3s-window): 
> http://rn3agc.msk.ru/136-3/0910270034-oe5odl-3.jpg
> Signal in 3s (my capture): 
> http://rn3agc.msk.ru/filez/091027-signal-rn3agc.jpg
> On capture it is possible to read a callsign (capture from Henny): 
> http://rn3agc.msk.ru/filez/091027-signal-pa3cpm.jpg
>
> 73 Andrey
>
>
>> Hello J-P,John,Andrey,
>> also here the big signal,
>> best 73s
>> henny pa3cpm
>> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden 
>> verzonden:
>> strange big signal 27-10.jpg
>>
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>>
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>


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Dear all,

just heard the end of a CW QSO between EI0CF (559) and G3XIZ (549)
around 502,1 kHz at 21.48 UTC. Finbar had to go to bed immediately.

Hope the signals will improve in the following months.

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB


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Tu for qso,claude,
antenne sloper 14meter,power 200watt,
best 73s
henny pa3cpm.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Claude Berthebaud 
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 
  Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 12:44 PM
  Subject: LF: qso With Henny...PA3CPM


  Hi Henny LF
  Many thanks for the qso Henny ur "MMM"
  qrn to day in may qth..good week end..
  73 's 
  Claude F8boj JN16WA



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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Tu for qso,claude,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>antenne sloper 14meter,power 200watt,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>henny pa3cpm.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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  <A title=f8boj@club-internet.fr href="mailto:f8boj@club-internet.fr">Claude 
  Berthebaud</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org     href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A> 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, October 10, 2009 12:44 
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: qso With 
Henny...PA3CPM</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Henny LF</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Many thanks for the qso Henny ur 
  "MMM"</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>qrn to day in may qth..good week 
  end..</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73 's </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Claude F8boj JN16WA</FONT></DIV>
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I have a 1936 edition of Electrical Engineers Handbook by Pender - McIlwain 
which show a diagram of a 1030 foot antenna in Budapest used on 545 kc.  So far 
I have found no history on this antenna.  Anyone have any info on this station 
and antenna's history?

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Let us hope you manage to hear my signal too later in the evening Clemens.

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/10/25 Clemens Paul <cpaul@gmx.net>

>    2009-10-25 18:00   G4JNT   0.503850   +12   0   IO90iv   0.2   DL4RAJ
>  JN68kj   1055   100
>
> This evening looks promising.
>
> 73
> Clemens
> DL4RAJ
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Henny,

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2009/10/2 henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>:
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> capture XGJ,
> Henny pa3cpm
> 73s
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden
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Hi,
if You get one, you have to pay 130.- Eur / year
Therefore  I am not on air any more.=20
On the other Hand - beaconing is boring
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G'day Gary,

Sorry - still can't connect.   Perhaps someone else should try.

Sorry to all for using the 'B' word - I of course meant MEPT....

A bit of research makes me think there are no 24/7 QRSS30 or slower ME=
PTs operating on 500kc in the UK/EU - or at least none that I can find=
.

My intent was to leave ARGO going overnight here (local time) each day=
(sic) for a period of time to see if, by some chance, I could see anyt=
hing this far away.

Yours grabber is 24/7, but unfortunately for some inexplicable reason=
 I cannot see it currently.     In any case, I would still need a regu=
lar MEPT with long carrier bursts, and that appears not to be the case=
.

Thanks for the help and info.

73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Gary - G4WGT=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 12:55 AM
  Subject: Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers....


  Hi Steve,


  Although I have not been uploading captures today until now (1348utc=
) there is no problem with my site, it has been displaying a message=
 "Grabber Temporary Off Line" as I do my PC maintenance on a Monday (h=
ard disk backup's etc).


  You will find that some (maybe most) of the other grabbers are rando=
m but mine is 24/7.


  Here is the url again just in case :-


  http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html


  73


  Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.


  2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra.com>

    G'day Gary,

    There currently seems to be a rend in the time-space continuum her=
e down under in VK-land....

    Apart from your site - for which I get a "can't connect".

    From the links on the Google site I get the following results.

    1. GM4SLV - last grab Jan 2009.
    2. CT1DRP - last grab Nov 2008.
    3. Hartmut Wolff - last grab Nov 2008.
    4. GM4ISM - can't connect.
    5. DF6NM - last grab May 2008.
    6. RN3AGC - can't connect.

    The only one that works is the http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/ li=
nk.

    What am I missing ?

    73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Gary - G4WGT=20
      To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
      Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 8:28 PM
      Subject: Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers....


      Hi Steve,=20


      A small list of grabbers on the UK500KHZ Group web site at :-


      http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers


      Also my own grabber page for the UK, EU & USA bands at :-


      http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html


      73


      Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.





      2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra.com>

        G'day All,

        In an expression of extreme optimism I am interested in gettin=
g details of 500kc beacons (preferably QRSS30 and slower) in Europe.=
    To get real-time confirmation of on-air status I am also looking=
 for relevant local grabbers for those beacons.

        73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)=20





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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G'day Gary,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Sorry - still can't connect.&nbsp;&nb=
sp; Perhaps=20
someone else should try.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Sorry to all for using the 'B' word=
 - I of course=20
meant MEPT....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>A bit of research makes me think ther=
e are no 24/7=20
QRSS30 or slower MEPTs operating on 500kc in the UK/EU&nbsp;- or at le=
ast none=20
that I can find.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>My intent was to leave ARGO going ove=
rnight here=20
(local time) each day(sic) for a period of time to see if, by some cha=
nce, I=20
could see anything this far away.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Yours grabber is 24/7, but unfortunat=
ely for some=20
inexplicable reason I cannot see it currently.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;In=20
any case,&nbsp;I would still need a regular MEPT with long carrier bur=
sts, and=20
that appears not to be the case.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks for the help and info.</FONT><=
/DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE   style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT:=
 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"   dir=
=3Dltr>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV     style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color:=
 black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dg4wgt@tiscali.co.uk href=3D"mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk">G=
ary -=20
  G4WGT</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@=
blacksheep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_l=
f_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 06, 20=
09 12:55=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: 500kc beacon=
s and=20
  grabbers....</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Hi Steve,
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Although I have not been uploading captures today until now (13=
48utc)=20
  there is no problem with my site, it has been displaying a message=
 "Grabber=20
  Temporary Off Line" as I do my PC maintenance on a Monday (hard disk=
 backup's=20
  etc).</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>You will find that some (maybe most) of the other grabbers are=
 random but=20
  mine is 24/7.</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Here is the url again just in case :-</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><A     href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.htm=
l">http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html</A></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><A href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html"><=
/A>73</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.<BR><BR>
  <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A  =
   href=3D"mailto:vk2zto@djirra.com">vk2zto@djirra.com</A>&gt;</SPAN><=
BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE     style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0p=
x 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"     class=3Dgmail_quote>
    <DIV bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G'day Gary,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>There currently seems to be a ren=
d in the=20
    time-space continuum here down under in VK-land....</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Apart from your site - for which=
 I get a "can't=20
    connect".</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>From the links on&nbsp;the Google=
 site I get=20
    the following results.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>1. GM4SLV - last grab Jan 2009.</=
FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>2. CT1DRP - last grab Nov 2008.</=
FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>3. Hartmut Wolff - last grab Nov=
=20
    2008.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>4. GM4ISM - can't connect.</FONT>=
</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>5. DF6NM - last grab May 2008.</F=
ONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>6. RN3AGC - can't connect.</FONT>=
</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>The only one that works is the <A=
       href=3D"http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/" rel=3Dnofollow target=
=3D_blank><FONT       size=3D2       face=3D"Times New Roman">http://w=
ww.wireless.org.uk/grab/</FONT></A>&nbsp;link.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>What am I missing ?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)</FONT></D=
IV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE       style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING=
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      <DIV class=3Dim>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </D=
IV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B>From:</B=
> <A         title=3Dg4wgt@tiscali.co.uk href=3D"mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.=
co.uk"         target=3D_blank>Gary - G4WGT</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A         title=3Drs=
gb_lf_group@blacksheep.org         href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org"         target=3D_blank>rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A> </D=
IV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 05,=
 2009 8:28=20
      PM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: 500kc be=
acons and=20
      grabbers....</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV></DIV>
      <DIV>
      <DIV></DIV>
      <DIV class=3Dh5>Hi Steve,=20
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV>A small list of grabbers on the UK500KHZ Group web site at=
 :-</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><A         href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/=
web/500-khz-grabbers"         target=3D_blank>http://groups.google.com=
/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers</A></DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV>Also my own grabber page for the UK, EU &amp; USA bands at=
 :-</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><A href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.htm=
l"         target=3D_blank>http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber=
2.html</A></DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV>73</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><A         href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/=
web/500-khz-grabbers"         target=3D_blank></A><BR><BR>
      <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A=
         href=3D"mailto:vk2zto@djirra.com"         target=3D_blank>vk2=
zto@djirra.com</A>&gt;</SPAN><BR>
      <BLOCKQUOTE         style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN=
: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"         class=3Dgmail_quote>G'=
day All,<BR><BR>In an expression of extreme optimism=20
        I am interested in getting details of 500kc beacons (preferabl=
y QRSS30=20
        and slower) in Europe. &nbsp; &nbsp;To get real-time confirmat=
ion of=20
        on-air status I am also looking for relevant local grabbers fo=
r those=20
        beacons.<BR><BR>73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)=20
      <BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></=
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Bonjour John....LF
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Hello,
now that I am happy with my selectiv level meter Praecitronic MV-62 I am looking for the best receicing antenna.
Especially I am interested in 400khz, 136kHz, 72kHz and below 22 kHz. With my 40m longwire reception is not good enough and with a frame antenna of 900m copper wire it was disappointing, too..
I think, an active antenna for 0 to 500 MHz would be the best for me - but I am looking forward to any other idea.
vy73 Horst DO1KHS
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Hello Ossi,sorry I missed your call.I saw it with the DF6NM's  grabber.
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GM Andrey,
Thank you for running the grabber on my frequency, I took a few saves of the
trace at your grabber last night & as you say that one looked to be the
best.

Cheers,

Gary - G4WGT.

2009/10/11 Andrey rn3agc <rn3agc@mail.ru>

> Hi Gary, LF,
> The best copy at 20.47.
> GN
>
> 73 Andrey

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GM Andrey,<div><br></div><div>Thank you for running the grabber on my freq=
uency, I took a few saves of the trace at your grabber last night &amp; as=
 you say that one looked to be the best.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,<=
/div>
<div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/1=
0/11 Andrey rn3agc <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rn3agc@mail.ru"=
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Hi Gary, LF,<br>
The best copy at 20.47.<br>
GN<br>
<br>
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Brilliant Dave! Thanks *so much* for my best DX to date at 120kms.  -20dB
S/N is not a bad signal either.

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/10/17 Dave Sergeant <dave@davesergeant.com>

> On 17 Oct 2009 at 15:02, G3XBM wrote:
>
> > Got some IRF510 FETs from Graham G3MFJ's club sales, so I've increased
> > my 500kHz ERP by around 10dB to around 60uW (microwatts). Already G7NKS
> > is spotting me 10dB stronger than ever before, which is an excellent
> > sign.
> >
> > All being well, the WSPR beacon will run overnight tonight and all
> > reports would be much appreciated.
>
> 153000  15  10  2.6   -62  0  G4JNT IO90 23
> 153000   8 -20  5.2     8  1  G3XBM JO02 0
>
> Wow, only 30dB down on G4JNT! Well done Roger.
>
> (sorry cannot upload as I am copying with WSJT7 which doesn't support
> the internet upload - but has an auto soundcard calibrator).
>
> 73 Dave G3YMC
> IO91PJ
>
> http://www.davesergeant.com
>
>
>


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Brilliant Dave! Thanks <u>so much</u> for my best DX to date at 120kms.=A0=
 -20dB S/N is not a bad signal either.<br><br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/17 Dave Sergeant <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:dave@davesergeant.com">dave@davesergeant.com</a>&gt;</span=
><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">On 17 Oct 2009=
 at 15:02, G3XBM wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; Got some IRF510 FETs from Graham G3MFJ&#39;s club sales, so I&#39;ve=
 increased<br>
&gt; my 500kHz ERP by around 10dB to around 60uW (microwatts). Already G7N=
KS<br>
&gt; is spotting me 10dB stronger than ever before, which is an excellent<=
br>
&gt; sign.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; All being well, the WSPR beacon will run overnight tonight and all<br=
>
&gt; reports would be much appreciated.<br>
<br>
153000 =A015 =A010 =A02.6 =A0 -62 =A00 =A0G4JNT IO90 23<br>
153000 =A0 8 -20 =A05.2 =A0 =A0 8 =A01 =A0G3XBM JO02 0<br>
<br>
Wow, only 30dB down on G4JNT! Well done Roger.<br>
<br>
(sorry cannot upload as I am copying with WSJT7 which doesn&#39;t support<=
br>
the internet upload - but has an auto soundcard calibrator).<br>
<br>
73 Dave G3YMC<br>
IO91PJ<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.davesergeant.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.daves=
ergeant.com</a><br>
<br>
<br>
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Hello Henny and Andrey.
Henny congratulations, what's your power out and kind of antenna on  2200m ?
 
 
 
F4DTL  Nicolas JN18FP

RX : Icom IC7400
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Quoting "Beckmann, Gerhard" <beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de>:

> I am often monitoring WSPR signals and yesterday I decoded OR7T with  
>  50 mW ERP!

Gerhard,

it was 5mW ERP (0.005) :

2009-10-21 21:24   OR7T   0.503889   -10   0   JO20ix   0.005   DK6NI   
  JN59ln   471   107

Based on the -10dB SNR it should have worked even with 17dB less ERP,  
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My 5mW transmissions were copied by 10 stations up to 878km.

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dr Mal, tnx fer duplex-QSO 502,3 / 7033. Ur sig 579 in jn59no.
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Hello Henny and all ,

Yes good copy of XGJ ! also XES visible last night on my grabber !

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> Hi Warren,LF
> Capture XGJ,
> Henny pa3cpm
> best 73s
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzo=
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> XGJ 05-10.jpg
>  =20

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Dear Graham, LF Group,

G0NBD wrote:
...>Looks like these low long wires radiate quite well at 500 , the high 
angle seems to  help the  'short' skip ?

Well, 20m high is quite high compared to most amateur antennas in use on 
500k - But doing a few sums, a 20m high, 150m long aerial should have 
radiation resistance of 1.5ohms or over, and one might expect several ohms 
loss resistance if in a good location. So efficiency could be in the tens of 
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Hi Rik, LF,

I have noticed the same here on my 24/7 WSPR monitor station.

The last 3 days shown below :-

27/10/2009
Last decode - 0826utc
First decode - 1552utc

28/10/2009
Last decode - 0826utc
First decode - 1442utc

29/10/2009 (today)
Last decode - 0952utc

73,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.


2009/10/29 Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>

> Over the past days I monitored the G4JNT WSPR beacon 24/24.
> During daytime I have a weak but consistent copy of Andy's signal, average
> -24dB with ups and down of some dB.
> During nighttime the signal is -10dB on average, with the usual deep QSB
> (peaking -1dB, dips down to -20dB).
> But the most interesting observation is that in the afternoon the first
> peaks (from -24dB up to -8dB) occur as early as 15:45 UTC.
> This is almost 1 hour before sunset (16:37 UTC) and almost 1.5 hours before
> the D-layer (at mid point) goes into darkness.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
>
>

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Hi Rik, LF,<div><br></div><div>I have noticed the same here on my 24/7 WSP=
R monitor station.</div><div><br></div><div>The last 3 days shown below :-=
</div><div><br></div><div>27/10/2009</div><div>Last decode - 0826utc</div>
<div>First decode - 1552utc</div><div><br>28/10/2009</div><div>Last decode=
 - 0826utc</div><div>First decode - 1442utc</div><div><br></div><div>29/10=
/2009 (today)</div><div>Last decode - 0952utc</div><div><br></div><div>73,=
</div>
<div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.</div><div><br></div><div><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/29 Rik Strobbe <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be">rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be</=
a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Over the past days I monitored the G4JNT=
 WSPR beacon 24/24.<br>
During daytime I have a weak but consistent copy of Andy&#39;s signal, ave=
rage -24dB with ups and down of some dB.<br>
During nighttime the signal is -10dB on average, with the usual deep QSB=
 (peaking -1dB, dips down to -20dB).<br>
But the most interesting observation is that in the afternoon the first pe=
aks (from -24dB up to -8dB) occur as early as 15:45 UTC.<br>
This is almost 1 hour before sunset (16:37 UTC) and almost 1.5 hours befor=
e the D-layer (at mid point) goes into darkness.<br>
<br>
73, Rik =A0ON7YD - OR7T<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br></div>

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Scott Tilley wrote:
> Anyone copy JH1GVH last night?
>
Screenshot from UA0AET after14z:

jh1gvy in ua0


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Scott Tilley wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:4AC7C6E5.9040805@telus.net" type="cite">Anyone
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Dear John/LF

 

Is the UK now not a 10w ERP limit?  

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

Dr. James Cowburn

  _____  

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John RABSON
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Subject: LF: Re: 505kHz availability

 

The following table was published in "500kHz and Cave Radio", CREGJ issue
70, March 2008, p9.

 

Please advise of any errors.

 

73,

F5VLF/G3PAI
 


Country

kHz

E(I)RP


USA

505-514

Up to 1200W*


UK

501-504

1W


Germany

440, 505-505.2

9W


Belgium

501-504

5W


Sweden

505-505.2

1W


Czech Rep

505-505.2

1W

* transmitter output power

 


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
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untry-region> now not a 10w ERP limit?&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></font>=
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[mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: Re: 505kHz
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=3DEN-GB   style=3D'font-size:9.0pt'>Up to 1200W*</span></font><span=
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n><span   lang=3DEN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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 1.0pt;   padding:3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt'>
  <p><font size=3D1 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=
=3DEN-GB   style=3D'font-size:9.0pt'>501-504</span></font><span lang=
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=3DEN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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k 1.0pt;   padding:3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt'>
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=3DEN-GB   style=3D'font-size:9.0pt'>5W</span></font><span lang=3DEN-G=
B><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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le=3D'font-size:9.0pt'>Sweden</span></font></st1:place></st1:country-r=
egion><span   lang=3DEN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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 1.0pt;   padding:3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt'>
  <p><font size=3D1 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=
=3DEN-GB   style=3D'font-size:9.0pt'>505-505.2</span></font><span lang=
=3DEN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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  <td width=3D112 valign=3Dtop style=3D'width:67.2pt;border:inset blac=
k 1.0pt;   padding:3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt 3.6pt'>
  <p><font size=3D1 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=
=3DEN-GB   style=3D'font-size:9.0pt'>1W</span></font><span lang=3DEN-G=
B><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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=3DEN-GB   style=3D'font-size:9.0pt'>Czech Rep</span></font><span lang=
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Peter

Sorry...nothing seen. T storms over Atlantic generating some pretty good static levels.

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Thanks a lot, Clemens. Will be changed at once. Don`t worry about the=
 decimal point a little bit more left or right :-)
73  Walter

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Clemens Paul=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 10:42 AM
  Subject: LF: Re: wspr 503.8


  Hallo Walter,
  =20
  please check the frequency readout in your WSPR program.
  Frequency is entered in MHz not in kHz.
  You have entered 502.301534 MHz instead of 0.502301534 MHz.
  Therefore you'll find your loggings in the database not under LF/MF
  but only under "All".
  It's exactly the same mistake I've made some time ago.:-)
  =20
  73
  Clemens
  DL4RAJ
  =20
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Walter und Marianne Staubach=20
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
    Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 11:02 PM
    Subject: LF: wspr 503.8


    Ufb reception of G0NBD, G4JNT, OR7T hr in JN59no. See datebase at=
 21:42UTC.
    73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF (reporter)



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks a lot, Clemens. Will be change=
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Don`t worry about the decimal point a little bit more left or right=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73&nbsp; Walter</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE  style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px=
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  <A href=3D"mailto:cpaul@gmx.net" title=3Dcpaul@gmx.net>Clemens Paul<=
/A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A    href=3D"mailto:rsgb=
_lf_group@blacksheep.org"    title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>rsgb=
_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 25, 200=
9 10:42=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: wspr 503.8</=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hallo Walter,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>please&nbsp;check the&nbsp;frequenc=
y readout in=20
  your WSPR program.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Frequency is entered in MHz not in=
=20
  kHz.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You have entered&nbsp;502.301534&nb=
sp;MHz instead=20
  of 0.502301534&nbsp;MHz.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Therefore you'll find your loggings=
 in the=20
  database not under LF/MF</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>but only under "All".</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It's exactly the same mistake I've=
 made&nbsp;some=20
  time ago.:-)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73<BR>Clemens<BR>DL4RAJ</FONT></DIV=
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    <A href=3D"mailto:wum.staubach@t-online.de"      title=3Dwum.staub=
ach@t-online.de>Walter und Marianne Staubach</A> </DIV>
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: wspr 503.8</DI=
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    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ufb reception of G0NBD, G4JNT, OR=
7T hr in=20
    JN59no. See datebase at 21:42UTC.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF (reporter=
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    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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G'day Gary,

Unfortunately my nuclear-grade security wall has black-listed "myweb.t=
iscali.co.uk/" again.

There is something in the transaction which it doesn't like.    This=
 has only happened once or twice a year before - and only with "dodgy"=
 sites with lots of popups, etc.

I have cleared it again but I don't want to keep clearing it in case=
 it is a real concern as I am a bit over-cautious about security issue=
s (OK - a LOT over-cautious...).

Interestingly my "real-time" protection got switched off at the same=
 time.   Probably a coincidence - but worrying.

It is a long time since I tried to debug such a situation (and it wasn=
't fun...), so I will give up before I start.

Oh well - one unhappy customer out of 1077 is not something for you to=
 worry about...:-)

Thanks for the help.

73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)

----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Gary - G4WGT=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 7:49 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: Links - Gary


  Hi Steve,


  I am pleased you got that frustrating problem sorted out HI HI.


  Glad to help if I can in any way.


  Cheers,


  gary - G4WGT.

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G'day Gary,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Unfortunately my nuclear-grade securi=
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>There is something in the transaction=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I have cleared it again but I don't=
 want to keep=20
clearing it in case it is a real concern as I am a bit over-cautious=
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security issues (OK - a LOT over-cautious...).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Interestingly my "real-time" protecti=
on got=20
switched off at the same time.&nbsp;&nbsp; Probably a coincidence - bu=
t=20
worrying.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>It is a long time since I tried to de=
bug such a=20
situation (and it wasn't fun...), so I will give up before I start.</F=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Oh well - one unhappy customer out of=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks for the help.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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</DIV>
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Hi Roger,
You need to consider the length of the text with the QRS speed you wish to
use ie.

QRS3 - G3XBM JO02DG
QRS10 - G3XBM
QRS30 & longer rates - XBM

You could include a CW ID at the end.

73,

Gary - G4WGT.


2009/10/21 Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>

> Good folks,
>
> Some advice please. I am about to organise some keyer ICs for beaconing in
> QRSS on 500kHz and 136kHz. Is there a standard message format used for QRSS
> beaconing?
>
> I was proposing to use *G3XBM JO02DG* or just *G3XBM* . Is this OK?
>
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM
>
>
>
> --
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Hi Roger,<div><br></div><div>You need to consider the length of the text=
 with the QRS speed you wish to use ie.</div><div><br></div><div>QRS3 - G3=
XBM JO02DG</div><div>QRS10 - G3XBM</div><div>QRS30 &amp; longer rates - XB=
M</div>
<div><br></div><div>You could include a CW ID at the end.</div><div><br></=
div><div>73,</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT.<br><div><br><br><div=
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<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Good folks,<br><br>Some advice please. I=
 am about to organise some keyer ICs for beaconing in QRSS on 500kHz and=
 136kHz. Is there a standard message format used for QRSS beaconing? <br>
<br>I was proposing to use <b>G3XBM JO02DG</b> or just <b>G3XBM</b> . Is=
 this OK?<br>
<br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br><font color=3D"#888888"><br><br clear=3D"all"><b=
r>-- <br>-------------------------------------------------------------<br>=
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G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>
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Hello Henny, Nicolas, LF,
Capture last night at 0.10z. The best copy.

73 Andrey


> Tu Nicolas,
> best 73s
> henny cpm
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Hello,

despite some of you might have heard about the following news, I was very surprised and I am looking forward to this event:

DDH47 147.3 khz in QRSS 3

In Honor of Nobelprize Winner Marconi and Prof. Ferdinand Braun a special transmission will be Date:

10. Dec 2009 Time: Start 2300 UTC

Frequ. 147,3 kc Mode:

QRSS 3

PWR: 20 kW

The weather forcast transmitter Pinneberg DDH47 will stop RTTY ( 50 Bd) transmission in between 10. Dec 2300h UTC and 11. Dec 001 UTC In this timegap, the TX will be used for a special event transmission. Short words in QRRS 3 will be transmitted. After the transmission You may confirm the receiving at a shortwave frequency or via Internet ( QRG and adress will be given later) You may check propagation every day / night at 147,3 Kc DDH47, because the TX is working 24 Hours

vy73 Horst DO1KHS


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Monitoring as of 1937utc


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Roger Lapthorn wrote:
> 2009-10-17 16:04  G3XBM  0.503920  -25  0  JO02dg  0.001  G0KTN
> IO81ti 210  242 210kms - brilliant!!! Thanks G0KTN.
> 
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> 

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Hello Jim,

I have seen a message that this transmission has been cancelled.
And yes, your mini-whip will do.

I even used it with Johan Bodin's great program directly fed into my  
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Since Andy started running the  G3PLX  beacon on  503.7 Khz , Gary G4W=
GT has maintained a monitor=20
running the G3PLX beacon reporting  software  , which can be viewed on=
 line  in real time at : =20

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html


There  are  3  time division channels  available  in the  beacon syste=
m .. Andy is  transmitting in the first  time slot and
recording on the  'RED' trace=20

BLUE and GREEN  are  recording , and are  available for  use  , detail=
s are posted :-

http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/multi-function-beacon-by-a=
ndy-g4jnt

To use the blue or green time slots , Andy has made  available a contr=
ol programme that  runs in windows=20
and  keys the  tx via the  com port  at 15 minuet intervals , that co=
 inside with the monitoring  window  of the
software  :-=20

http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/PCBCN.zip

All that is needed is a CW tx that can be  tuned to  503.7 , A com por=
t  tx ppt  key as used by most=20
software to key the tx , but in this case connected across  the  CW ke=
y line , the  pc time needs to  be set=20
as close to  'real' as possible , the  rx software will follow a sligh=
t time   error

Note  , the  recoding  and  tx control software  make up a  beacon sys=
tem .. so if you are crystal
controlled and want to  set up a  experiment with other  stations , th=
e RX stations  simply tune
to  your ''TX'  frequency and they will record the  path on a rolling=
 plot=20

73 - G ..=20

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<DIV><FONT size=3D4 face=3DArial>Since Andy started running the&nbsp;=
 G3PLX&nbsp;=20
beacon on&nbsp; 503.7 Khz , Gary G4WGT has maintained a monitor </FONT=
></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4 face=3DArial>running the G3PLX beacon reporting&nb=
sp;=20
software&nbsp; , </FONT><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><FONT size=3D4>whi=
ch can be viewed=20
on line&nbsp; in real time at :</FONT>&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><A   title=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co=
.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"=
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html">http://myweb.tiscal=
i.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>There&nbsp; are&nbsp; 3&nbsp; time di=
vision=20
channels&nbsp; available&nbsp; in the&nbsp; beacon system .. Andy is&n=
bsp;=20
transmitting in the first&nbsp; time slot and</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>recording on the&nbsp; 'RED' trace </=
FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><STRONG>BLUE and GREEN&nbsp; are&nbsp; recordi=
ng=20
,&nbsp;and are&nbsp; available for&nbsp; use &nbsp;, details are poste=
d=20
:-</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><A   title=3D"http://groups.google.co=
m/group/uk500khz/web/multi-function-beacon-by-andy-g4jnt&#10;CTRL + Cl=
ick to follow link"   href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/=
web/multi-function-beacon-by-andy-g4jnt">http://groups.google.com/grou=
p/uk500khz/web/multi-function-beacon-by-andy-g4jnt</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>To use the blue or green time slots=
 , Andy has=20
made&nbsp; available a control programme that&nbsp; runs in=20
windows&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>and&nbsp; keys the&nbsp; tx via the&n=
bsp; com=20
port&nbsp; at 15 minuet intervals , that co inside with the monitoring=
&nbsp;=20
window&nbsp; of the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>software&nbsp;&nbsp;:- </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><A   title=3D"http://groups.google.co=
m/group/uk500khz/web/PCBCN.zip&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=
=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/PCBCN.zip">http://grou=
ps.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/PCBCN.zip</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>All that is needed is a CW tx that ca=
n be&nbsp;=20
tuned to&nbsp; 503.7 , A com port&nbsp; tx ppt&nbsp; key as used by mo=
st=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>software to key the tx , but in this=
 case connected=20
across&nbsp; the&nbsp; CW key line , the&nbsp; pc time needs to&nbsp;=
 be set=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>as close to&nbsp; 'real' as possible=
 , the&nbsp; rx=20
software will follow a slight time &nbsp; error</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><STRONG>Note&nbsp; , the&nbsp; recoding&nbsp;=
 and&nbsp; tx=20
control software&nbsp; make up a&nbsp; beacon system .. so if you are=
=20
crystal</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><STRONG>controlled and want to&nbsp; set up a&=
nbsp;=20
experiment with other&nbsp; stations , the&nbsp;RX stations&nbsp; simp=
ly=20
tune</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><FONT size=3D3><STRONG>to&nbsp; your=
 ''TX'&nbsp;=20
frequency and they will record the&nbsp; path on a rolling plot</STRON=
G></FONT>=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial>73 - G .. </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Hi all,


Here my WSPR log from yesterday evening - listening with Perseus and
mini whip:


2222  -4  0.5   0.503848  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2232  -2  1.2   0.503861  0 OR7T JO20 23
2234  -1  1.4   0.503923  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2236 -19  0.7   0.503849  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2238  -3  1.3   0.503861  0 OR7T JO20 23
2240 -17  1.7   0.503899 -1 G0NBD IO83 23
2240   5  1.2   0.503923  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2244   2  1.2   0.503861  0 OR7T JO20 23
2244 -19  1.3   0.503896  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2246 -19  0.6   0.503849  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2246 -20  1.2   0.503907  0 G4WGT IO83 17
2246   1  1.2   0.503923  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2250  -6  1.2   0.503861  0 OR7T JO20 23
2250 -23  1.4   0.503896  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2250   7  1.2   0.503923  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2252 -24  0.6   0.503849  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2254  -4  1.2   0.503861  0 OR7T JO20 23
2254 -16  1.4   0.503896  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2254 -18  1.1   0.503906  0 G4WGT IO83 17
2256   6  1.3   0.503923  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2258 -20  1.2   0.503906  0 G4WGT IO83 17
2300 -17  0.6   0.503849  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2300 -13  1.9   0.503896  0 G0NBD IO83 23
2300   6  1.3   0.503923  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2302  -1  1.2   0.503861  0 OR7T JO20 23
2304   7  1.2   0.503923 -1 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2306 -17  0.0   0.503849 -1 G4JNT IO90 23
2306 -14  1.0   0.503896 -1 G0NBD IO83 23
2310   2  1.2   0.503923  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2312 -26  0.6   0.503849  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2312 -16  1.4   0.503907  0 G4WGT IO83 17



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vy 73 + gd DX,

Michael


RX: ICOM R75, SDR-IQ, Perseus
Antenna: Wellbrook ALA 1530, Mini-Whip
Location: Roschbach, Germany N 49=B015' E 8=B007' / Locator JN49BF

ENDBH & NANDBH editor

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http://lwca.org/miscdocs/oexner/2009NDBinfo.zip


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Good morning - what frequency please?

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Good morning - what frequency please?<BR>
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Hi Henny,
nice and strong signs in jo43sv.
pse see attachment.
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Hi Claude!

Claude Berthebaud wrote:
> Good evening ALL
> The Beacon "BOJ" is open  QRSS60  137776.2hz
> Good night
> Claude F8boj JN16WA



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Ossi, LF,
Screengrabs of OE5ODL, captured this afternoon. My antenna is a 20m =
 centre fed "Tee" at 5m. RX is ICOM ICP-R1000, with tuned pre-amp.


73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM







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Hi everyone.....what dial frequency is everyone using for 500khz wspr....I 
finally have my long wires out and have been monitoring. I can leave WSPR 
running almost 24/7 to see if I can catch a WSPR signal from across the 
pond. I did catch a couple last year which was great!!!

Regards,

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Hi Nicolas,LF,
The antenne is a sloper,14meter with two times 10 meter tophat,
the power is 200 watts with two times pl-519

best 73s
henny cpm
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  Hello Henny and Andrey.
  Henny congratulations, what's your power out and kind of antenna on=
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  F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP

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hi Jean Pierre and LF
Many thanks for opened your grabber.now
tonight I test the reliability of traffic without standalone pc ..
Good evening everyone
Claude F8boj JN16WA

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Hello Claude ,

Grabber ON for listening you !

73 Jean-Pierre F1AFJ

Claude Berthebaud a =E9crit :
> hi LF
> Beacon open 137776.20hz "boj" qrss60
> good evening..
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian G3YKB" <g3ykb@onetel.com>
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Hi Chris -

I built a linear PA for 136 kHz (I wanted it linear so as to run
PSK31). It uses
four bipolar output transistors (two MJ15003 and two MJ15004) in complement
ary
parallel/push-pull class AB. I drive them with two other transistors (2SD14
59
and 2SB1037) in darlington configuration - ie a simple "AF amplifier" type
of
circuit.
What is it ? its either an AF AMP or RF AMP.
G3KEV


 The whole lot is fed from a TDA2030. It produces a peak output of
150
watts (from a dual 32 volt supply) and has withstood all sorts of abuse.
However it is only 40% efficient (I suspect this may be due to the slew
rate of
the power transistors).

"AF amplifiers" can work!

Regards - Brian (G3YKB)

Quoting Chris <c.ashby435@btinternet.com>:

> Hi All,
> Just started constructing TX for 136kHz, noticed Maplin do a Velleman
> audio PA kit that is rated at 200W (100W RMS into 4R). OK there's no
> mains transformer or heat sink, but reckon it's good value at £14.99.
> Point is the specs also say the minus 3db frequency response is 3Hz /
> 200kHz.
> The RSGB books 'LF Today' refer to using audio amps as PAs at 136
> with 'a few modifications'. Does anybody know where these
> modifications are documented? I guess there's nothing major, reduce a
> few cap values? Remove Zobel Network etc.?? If anyone has experience
> with this approach I would appreciate some hints. Thanks.
> Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable.





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Hi LF

0342   -28  0.1   0.503852  G4JNT IO90 23


73 Andrey


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Dear Andy, LF group

after many unsuccessful attempts  to get your wspr signal  positively 
decoded
today  i had more luck  .. here we go:
2252 -28  0.1   0.503855  0 G4JNT IO90 23
2300 -28  0.2   0.503854  0 G4JNT IO90 23
the rx side is a modest one:  1sq.meter loop /two stage buffer/amplif/ 
ft857d

                                      73 de Piotr, sq7mpj

qth: Lodz /jo91rs/





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Hello All !

Are there any "grabber"-stations in Europe that have a real-time display
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Will start my MF-beacon DI2BJ on 505.030 kHz by tmw with regular CW.

Reports are welcome  :-)    73 de wolf  df2py / DI2BJ


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Hi LF,
Capture DTL
Henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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G'day Gary,

Well - the problem has gone away.   For some reason the "myweb.tiscali=
.co.uk/..." site address and several others had been put on a blacklis=
t in my network security setup.  Something has triggered it off.

While I obviously don't want to go into specific details, currently th=
is has been cleared.

My apologies for wasting your time and RSGB bandwidth.

73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Gary - G4WGT=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 10:49 PM
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  Hi All,


  My thanks to all (both direct & LF) who confirmed that the grabber=
 links are OK.


  73


  Gary - G4WGT.


  2009/10/6 Chris <c.ashby435@btinternet.com>

    Hi Gary,
    All seems to work OK here as well.
    73, Chris, G4AYT.

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G'day Gary,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Well - the problem has gone away.&nbs=
p;&nbsp; For=20
some reason the "myweb.tiscali.co.uk/..." site address and several oth=
ers had=20
been put on a blacklist in my network security setup.&nbsp; Something=
 has=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>While I obviously don't want to go in=
to specific=20
details, currently this has been cleared.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>My apologies for wasting your time an=
d&nbsp;RSGB=20
bandwidth.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE   style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT:=
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 black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dg4wgt@tiscali.co.uk href=3D"mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk">G=
ary -=20
  G4WGT</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@=
blacksheep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_l=
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 06, 20=
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  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Links - Gary=
</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Hi All,
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>My thanks to all (both direct &amp; LF) who confirmed that the=
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  links are OK.</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>73</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Gary - G4WGT.<BR><BR>
  <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>2009/10/6 Chris <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A   =
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    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Hi Gary,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>All seems to work OK here as well=
.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73, Chris,=20
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G'day Gary,

For some reason your site is not available here at the moment (1005UTC=
).    The google site and other UK sites are.

Probably a temporary outage.

73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Gary - G4WGT=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 8:28 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers....


  Hi Steve,


  A small list of grabbers on the UK500KHZ Group web site at :-


  http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers


  Also my own grabber page for the UK, EU & USA bands at :-


  http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html


  73


  Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.





  2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra.com>

    G'day All,

    In an expression of extreme optimism I am interested in getting de=
tails of 500kc beacons (preferably QRSS30 and slower) in Europe.    To=
 get real-time confirmation of on-air status I am also looking for rel=
evant local grabbers for those beacons.

    73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)=20



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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>For some reason your site is not avai=
lable here at=20
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are.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Probably a temporary outage.</FONT></=
DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)</FONT><FONT=
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ary -=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@=
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: 500kc beacon=
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  grabbers....</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Hi Steve,
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>A small list of grabbers on the UK500KHZ Group web site at :-</=
DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><A     href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-=
khz-grabbers">http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grab=
bers</A></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Also my own grabber page for the UK, EU &amp; USA bands at :-</=
DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><A     href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.htm=
l">http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html</A></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>73</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.</DIV>
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  <DIV><A     href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-=
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  <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A  =
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x 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"     class=3Dgmail_quote>G'day All,<BR>=
<BR>In an expression of extreme optimism I=20
    am interested in getting details of 500kc beacons (preferably QRSS=
30 and=20
    slower) in Europe. &nbsp; &nbsp;To get real-time confirmation of=
 on-air=20
    status I am also looking for relevant local grabbers for those=20
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Thank you Henny, XGJ will be off tonight.
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2009/10/8 henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>:
> Hi Warren,LF
> Capture XGJ
> Henny cpm
> best 73s
>
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden
> verzonden:
> XGJ 08-10.jpg


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I have a CW beacon running on 501.7kHz. EIRP about 100mW. Reports very 
welcome. It will be on until morning.

73

Richard
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Hello Warren,LF
Nice capture XGJ
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
XGJ 06-10.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello Warren,LF</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Nice capture XGJ</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het 
volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:<BR>XGJ 
06-10.jpg<BR><BR>Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging 
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Ok Gerhard

Thanks for the  reception  reports ... did you  manage to decode the=
  dual signal ? i closed at 2300  utc  ,=20
what was the  throb mode decode  , when psk was 'managing some decode?=
?

had a short cw qso with  g3ldo round 2300   but lost in very  deep  qs=
b and very high static noise ..  may be  not a good  night for testing=
=20

tnx - G ..


From: Beckmann, Gerhard=20
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:19 AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Cc: 'Graham'=20
Subject: AW: >>> PSK31 ADDED LF: Throb -2- on 503.000 AND PSK31 503.30=
0 <<<<<<<<


Hello Graham,

=20

>> sri, sri, statics are too strong this night, I had to switch off th=
e Rx...

I hope condx will better tomorrow.

No problem at all in monitoring both signal,  PSK31 and Thorb-2;

I have made a short test some minutes ago and can see both signals and=
 BPSK31 was managing some "decoding attemps".

>> And in parallel I am monitoring Andy's WSPR-beacon with -24 dB !!!=
 as a signal level reference.

Signals are poor this evening in comparison to our PSK31 some days ago=
.

=20

Hope to meet again you tomorrow on 503 kHz.

=20

vy 73 de Gerhard  //  DK6NI

=20

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Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@bl=
acksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Oktober 2009 00:14
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: >>> PSK31 ADDED LF: Throb -2- on 503.000 AND PSK31 503.300 <<=
<<<<<<

=20

Added  PSK31  on  503.300  , will be a  -3 dB  drop in peak level when=
 in simultaneous  TX due to  tx alc action=20

=20

503.000    throb -2-

503.300    PSK31=20

=20

    Tnx - G ..=20

=20

From: Graham=20

Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 10:13 PM

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20

Subject: Re: LF: Throb -2- Beacon running on 503.000 center frequency

=20

Thank you  for the  report Gerhard=20

=20

Be interested as to your  comments on the  decode , compared to the =
 psk qso=20

as it looks like the  condx are worse ?=20

=20

What is the  peak signal level ?

=20

tnx - G=20

=20

=20

From: Graham=20

Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 6:52 PM

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20

Subject: LF: Throb -2- Beacon running on 503.000 center frequency

=20

Throb 2 beacon on 503.000 =20

=20

running  :  fldigi , throb mode -2- center  frequency  503.000 Khz=20

=20

TX  set USB , Rx 'on during  60 second tx pause ,

=20

Interested to  see  how the  mode prints / recovers  in the  noise /=
 qsb =20

=20

Reports welcome ,

=20

Tnx - Graham

G0NBD

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Ok Gerhard</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks for the&nbsp; reception&nbsp;=
 reports ...=20
did you&nbsp; manage to decode the&nbsp; dual signal ? i closed at 230=
0&nbsp;=20
utc&nbsp; , </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>what was the&nbsp; throb mode&nbsp;de=
code&nbsp; ,=20
when psk was 'managing some decode??</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>had a short cw qso with&nbsp; g3ldo=
 round=20
2300&nbsp; &nbsp;but lost in very&nbsp; deep &nbsp;qsb and very high=
 static=20
noise ..&nbsp; may be&nbsp; not a good&nbsp; night for testing </FONT>=
</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>tnx - G ..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A   title=3Dbeckmann.er=
langen@freenet.de   href=3D"mailto:beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de">Beckm=
ann, Gerhard</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:19 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mail=
to:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=3Dg8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk   href=3D"mailto:g8=
fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">'Graham'</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> AW: &gt;&gt;&gt; PSK31 ADDED LF: Throb -2- on 503=
.000 AND=20
PSK31 503.300 &lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=3DSection1>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=3DEN=
-GB>Hello=20
Graham,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"   lang=3D=
EN-GB><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=3DEN=
-GB>&gt;&gt;=20
sri, sri, statics are too strong this night, I had to switch off the=
=20
Rx=85..<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=3DEN=
-GB>I hope condx=20
will better tomorrow.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT color=3Dblue size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=
   style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEI=
GHT: bold"   lang=3DEN-GB>No problem at all in monitoring both signal,=
&nbsp; PSK31 and=20
Thorb-2;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></B></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; BACKGROUND: yellow; COLOR: navy; FONT-S=
IZE: 10pt"   lang=3DEN-GB>I have made a short test some minutes ago an=
d can see <B><I><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-STYLE: italic; FONT-WEIGHT: bold=
">both signals</SPAN></I></B> and=20
BPSK31 was managing some =93decoding attemps=94=85</SPAN></FONT><FONT=
 color=3Dnavy   size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Aria=
l; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"   lang=3DEN-GB><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FO=
NT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=3DEN=
-GB>&gt;&gt; And=20
in parallel I am monitoring <B><I><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-STYLE: italic;=
 FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Andy=92s WSPR-beacon with -24 dB !!!=20
as a signal level reference</SPAN></I></B>=85<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT>=
</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=3DEN=
-GB>Signals are=20
poor this evening in comparison to our PSK31 some days=20
ago.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"   lang=3D=
EN-GB><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=3DEN=
-GB>Hope to meet=20
again you tomorrow on 503 kHz=85<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"   lang=3D=
EN-GB><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=3DEN=
-GB>vy 73 de=20
Gerhard&nbsp; //&nbsp; DK6NI<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Rom=
an"><SPAN   style=3D"COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT=
><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: center" class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter><FO=
NT size=3D3   face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"=
>
<HR tabIndex=3D-1 align=3Dcenter SIZE=3D2 width=3D"100%">
</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><SPAN   style=3D"=
FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Von:</SPAN></=
FONT></B><FONT   size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Ta=
homa; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">=20
owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:Pe=
rsonName>=20
[mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName   w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o=
rg</st1:PersonName>] <B><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Im Auftrag=
 von </SPAN></B>Graham<BR><B><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Gesen=
det:</SPAN></B> Donnerstag, 8. Oktober 2009=20
00:14<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">An:</SPAN></B> <st1:Pers=
onName   w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><BR>=
<B><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Betreff:</SPAN></B> &gt;&gt;&gt=
; PSK31 ADDED LF: Throb=20
-2- on 503.000 AND PSK31 503.300=20
&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN  =
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Added&nbsp; PSK31&nbsp; on&nbsp;=20
503.300&nbsp; , will be a&nbsp; -3 dB&nbsp; drop in peak level when in=
=20
simultaneous&nbsp; TX due to&nbsp; tx alc action=20
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN  =
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">503.000&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;throb=
=20
-2-</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">503.300&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;PSK31=
=20
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN  =
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN  =
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT><FONT=
 size=3D2   face=3DArial><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE:=
 10pt">Tnx - G ..=20
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><SPAN   style=3D"FON=
T-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>=
</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV style=3D"font-color: black">
<P style=3D"BACKGROUND: whitesmoke" class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT size=3D=
2   face=3DTahoma><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10p=
t; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT   size=3D2 face=3DT=
ahoma><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A   title=
=3Dg8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Gra=
ham</A>=20
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style=3D"BACKGROUND: whitesmoke" class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT size=3D=
2   face=3DTahoma><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10p=
t; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT   size=3D2 face=3DT=
ahoma><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">=20
Wednesday, October 07, 2009 10:13 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV=
>
<DIV>
<P style=3D"BACKGROUND: whitesmoke" class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT size=3D=
2   face=3DTahoma><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10p=
t; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT   size=3D2 face=3DTah=
oma><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A   title=
=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksh=
eep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style=3D"BACKGROUND: whitesmoke" class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT size=3D=
2   face=3DTahoma><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10p=
t; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT   size=3D2 face=
=3DTahoma><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Re: LF=
:=20
Throb -2- Beacon running on 503.000 center=20
frequency<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN  =
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Thank you&nbsp; for the&nbsp; report=
=20
Gerhard </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN  =
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Be interested as to your&nbsp;=20
comments on the&nbsp; decode , compared to the&nbsp; psk qso=20
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">as it looks like the&nbsp; condx are=
=20
worse ? </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN  =
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">What is the&nbsp; peak signal level=
=20
?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN  =
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">tnx - G=20
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN  =
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><SPAN   style=3D"FON=
T-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>=
</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV style=3D"font-color: black">
<P style=3D"BACKGROUND: whitesmoke" class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT size=3D=
2   face=3DTahoma><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10p=
t; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT   size=3D2 face=3DT=
ahoma><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A   title=
=3Dg8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Gra=
ham</A>=20
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style=3D"BACKGROUND: whitesmoke" class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT size=3D=
2   face=3DTahoma><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10p=
t; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT   size=3D2 face=3DT=
ahoma><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">=20
Wednesday, October 07, 2009 6:52 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style=3D"BACKGROUND: whitesmoke" class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT size=3D=
2   face=3DTahoma><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10p=
t; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT   size=3D2 face=3DTah=
oma><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A   title=
=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksh=
eep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style=3D"BACKGROUND: whitesmoke" class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT size=3D=
2   face=3DTahoma><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10p=
t; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT   size=3D2 face=
=3DTahoma><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> LF: Th=
rob=20
-2- Beacon running on 503.000 center=20
frequency<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN  =
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Throb 2 beacon on 503.000&nbsp;=20
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN  =
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">running&nbsp; :&nbsp; fldigi , throb=
=20
mode -2- center&nbsp; frequency&nbsp; 503.000 Khz=20
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN  =
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">TX &nbsp;set USB , Rx 'on=20
during&nbsp; 60 second tx pause ,</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN  =
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Interested to&nbsp; see&nbsp; how=20
the&nbsp; mode prints / recovers &nbsp;in the&nbsp; noise / qsb&nbsp;=
=20
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN  =
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Reports=20
welcome</SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;<FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">,</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P=
></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN  =
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Tnx -=20
Graham</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">G0NBD</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></D=
IV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN  =
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN  =
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: center" class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter><FO=
NT size=3D3   face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"=
>
<HR align=3Dcenter SIZE=3D2 width=3D"100%">
</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN  =
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR>No virus found in this incoming message=
.<BR>Checked=20
by AVG - <A href=3D"http://www.avg.com">www.avg.com</A> <BR>Version:=
 8.5.421 /=20
Virus Database: 270.14.5/2419 - Release Date: 10/07/09=20
05:18:00<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: center" class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter><FO=
NT size=3D3   face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"=
>
<HR align=3Dcenter SIZE=3D2 width=3D"100%">
</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN  =
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR>No virus found in this incoming message=
.<BR>Checked=20
by AVG - www.avg.com <BR>Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.5/2=
419 -=20
Release Date: 10/07/09 05:18:00<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P>
<HR>

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czesc Marcin, ( bedzie po polsku  :)  )
dosyc pozno wlaczylem sprzet  jednakze udalo mi sie odebrac twoj sygnal 
na 137 khz
wyjatkowo nie mialem dzis zaklocen  no i  odebralem "KDS"  o 2250 utc - 
obrazek w zalaczniku
vfo mam usawione na 137.780  zas BFO na  600 Hz  sygnal jest na 602 a 
ze  bfo  jest od gory wiec wychodzi
na 137.778 kHz  podstawa czasu w spectranie tak dobrana zeby qrss60 
wygladalo sensownie  reszta obrazkow juz jutro bezposrednim
mail'em
                                serdecznie pozdrawiam, Piotr, sq7mpj
qth: Lodz /jo91rs/


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Hello Andrey,    LF
I think that You are right,
best 73s
Henny pa3cpm
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
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> Henny, John, Jean-Pierre,
> Possibly, it OE5ODL...
> OE5ODL at 00.35 (my capture, 3s-window): 
> http://rn3agc.msk.ru/136-3/0910270034-oe5odl-3.jpg
> Signal in 3s (my capture): 
> http://rn3agc.msk.ru/filez/091027-signal-rn3agc.jpg
> On capture it is possible to read a callsign (capture from Henny): 
> http://rn3agc.msk.ru/filez/091027-signal-pa3cpm.jpg
>
> 73 Andrey
>
>
>> Hello J-P,John,Andrey,
>> also here the big signal,
>> best 73s
>> henny pa3cpm
>> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden 
>> verzonden:
>> strange big signal 27-10.jpg
>>
>> Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen 
>> het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde
>> bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw 
>> e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden
>> afgehandeld.
>>
>
>


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Hello John, Jean-Pierre, LF,
I too have received this signal: http://rn3agc.msk.ru/filez/091027-signal.jpg .
779.1-UA9CS

73 Andrey


Hi John ,
Yes it is a strange signal ! I do not see what that can be . Between
Markus and me there is more than 800 km , therefore this signal was very
powerful ! .....
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

John Andrews a écrit :
> Jean-Pierre,
>
> Thanks for the report.
>
> I was watching the F1AFJ and DF6NM grabbers tonight in the 0100-0200 UTC period. There was an interesting signal that swept 
> through both screens... certainly not a local QRP event to appear at both locations. See:
>
> http://www.w1tag.com/files/F1AFJ.jpg
> http://www.w1tag.com/files/DF6NM.jpg
>
> John, W1TAG
>
> Jean-Pierre Méré (F1AFJ) wrote:
>> Hello John ,
>>
>> I copy your beacon last night (00:00>01:30utc)
>>
>> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>>
>>
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hallo claude many thanks fer nice qso es  bic here
your signal is very strong comming up 25 db over nois !
73 and cuagn de ossy

Claude Berthebaud schrieb:
> HI Oswald and LF
> good morning wald..
> very good copy trong signal in 137 khz
> many thanks for the qso and gud week and
> Claude F8boj JN16WA
>
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hallo szigy
copy yo2x beacon on 505.74 with 15 to 20 db over noise  here in jn68rd
oe5odl  73 de ossi

Szigy schrieb:
> From: YO2IS
>   Pleased to receive today a nice QSL, from G3KEV, Mal,
>  confirming our crossband CW QSO 502.5 / 7033 KHz.
>  It's a first one for me and a new one for YO ...
>   Will randomly run the YO2X beacon testing the setup.
>  QRG 505.763 KHz, 41m sloping wire and abt 100W input
>  PIC keyer in QRSS3 and CW id.
>   Some 137.7 KHz activity is also planned depending on
>  the level of the urban QRM. Have to test for 137 KHz
>  reception, the K9AY loop versus the tunned multiturn-
>  loop located under the roof etc.
>   BTW, some days ago got the 'RSGB 136KHz Award' #10
>  for 6 confirmed DXCC entities ( 3 on CW, 3 on QRSS3 ).
>   Hope the cold weather will bring more trafic on VLF.
>     73 & DX, Szigy.
>
>
>   


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Tu,Uwe,
best 73s
Henny pa3cpm.
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Hi Henny,
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Thanks for your comments Mal, I did wonder if such an approach was wis=
e. Let's see what others have to say on the matter. I also have my sus=
picions about FETs in class D and the level of crud that could result.
Thanks again.
Chris, G4AYT.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: mal hamilton=20
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  Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 2:49 PM
  Subject: LF: Re: AF Amps at 136


  Chris=20
  Do  not use audio amps for RF. Build a class D or E amp and operate=
 trouble free. Audio amps were tried by some in the early days but nev=
er worked properly.=20
  Read the horror stories of yesteryears about using audio amps for RF=
 applications. Buckets of burnt out FETS.
  73 De Mal/g3kev

    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Chris=20
    To: RSGB LF Group=20
    Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 2:13 PM
    Subject: LF: AF Amps at 136


    Hi All,
    Just started constructing TX for 136kHz, noticed Maplin do a Velle=
man audio PA kit that is rated at 200W (100W RMS into 4R). OK there's=
 no mains transformer or heat sink, but reckon it's good value at =A31=
4.99. Point is the specs also say the minus 3db frequency response is=
 3Hz / 200kHz.
    The RSGB books 'LF Today' refer to using audio amps as PAs at 136=
 with 'a few modifications'. Does anybody know where these modificatio=
ns are documented? I guess there's nothing major, reduce a few cap val=
ues? Remove Zobel Network etc.?? If anyone has experience with this ap=
proach I would appreciate some hints. Thanks.
    Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable.


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 Build a class=20
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    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Hi All,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Just started constructing TX for=
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e a few=20
    cap values? Remove Zobel Network etc.?? If anyone has experience=
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    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable.</FONT><=
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Hello LF!
Both, HB9ASB and SO5AS are well visible here.

Lubos, OK2BVG
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Hi guys...have moved to wspr dial 502.4 @ 2205utc...hope to catch some of 
you...

73 de Vern - VE1VDM
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Hi Chris -

I built a linear PA for 136 kHz (I wanted it linear so as to run=20
PSK31). It uses
four bipolar output transistors (two MJ15003 and two MJ15004) in complemen=
t
ary
parallel/push-pull class AB. I drive them with two other transistors (2SD1=
4
59
and 2SB1037) in darlington configuration - ie a simple "AF amplifier" type=
=20
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circuit. The whole lot is fed from a TDA2030. It produces a peak output of=
=20
150
watts (from a dual 32 volt supply) and has withstood all sorts of abuse.
However it is only 40% efficient (I suspect this may be due to the slew=20
rate of
the power transistors).

"AF amplifiers" can work!

Regards - Brian (G3YKB)

Quoting Chris <c.ashby435@btinternet.com>:

> Hi All,
> Just started constructing TX for 136kHz, noticed Maplin do a Velleman=20
> audio PA kit that is rated at 200W (100W RMS into 4R). OK there's no=20
> mains transformer or heat sink, but reckon it's good value at =A314.99.=
=20
> Point is the specs also say the minus 3db frequency response is 3Hz /=20
> 200kHz.
> The RSGB books 'LF Today' refer to using audio amps as PAs at 136=20
> with 'a few modifications'. Does anybody know where these=20
> modifications are documented? I guess there's nothing major, reduce a=20
> few cap values? Remove Zobel Network etc.?? If anyone has experience=20
> with this approach I would appreciate some hints. Thanks.
> Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable.



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Hi LF,
Looks like some electrical storms in western Europe causing almost total
wipe-out of the grabbers here.

Also lots of loud static crashes on 136kHz.

73

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Hi LF,<div><br></div><div>Looks like some electrical storms in western Europe causing almost total wipe-out of the grabbers here.</div><div><br></div><div>Also lots of loud static crashes on 136kHz.</div><div><br></div><div>
73</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT</div>

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Mal,
More or less freely here: 500.0-502.3 and 503.1-504.0.
But also here in some places there are bad-lines.
Inform me frequencies which you can establish.
And I here will look, whether they are free.

73 Andrey



> Andrey
> What would be a good FREQ for reception on 500?
> We could try earlier in the day
> de mal/g3kev
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 8:26 PM
> Subject: LF: Re: Re: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz
> 
> 
>> Mal,
>> If here there was no this svc-station, your qrss3-signal would be visible 
>> also in the afternoon :)
>> For certain.
>>
>> 73 Andrey
>>
>>>
>>> Andrey
>>> I can not see any problem my signal is vy clear and strong on ur GRABBER
>>> tonite
>>> tnx de mal/g3kev
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 7:56 PM
>>> Subject: LF: Re: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz
>>>
>>>
>>>> Mal,
>>>> Your signal here is almost in the centre of a spectrum of powerful
>>>> broadband SVC-station.
>>>> It is a pity that you do not have possibility to replace frequency...
>>>>
>>>> 73 Andrey
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Andrey can see my sig solid copy on ur GRABBER
>>>>> TNX MAL
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
>>>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:36 PM
>>>>> Subject: LF: Re: Re: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Mal,
>>>>>> I have already switched on the grabber on your frequency.
>>>>>> The grabber will work on 500 khz to ~21z....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the night from 1.30 till 2.45 observed someone's wspr-signals on
>>>>>> 503850.
>>>>>> The signals was not decoded.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73 Andrey
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Andrey
>>>>>>> Pse look at 502.57 starting at 1800 utc CW and QRS3
>>>>>>> De mal/g3kev
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
>>>>>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 6:45 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: LF: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello LF'ers,
>>>>>>>> QRV RCV today WSPR-beacons on 500 kHz (503850+/-) till the morning.
>>>>>>>> Also QRSS3 above frequency 502.350. If someone is going to work in
>>>>>>>> QRSS3-mode,
>>>>>>>> please inform your frequency.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 73 Andrey
>>
>>
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Hello LF

Not sure if I can beleive my ears but it sounds like a QSO between G3XIZ=
 and
ON/F6CNI/P taking place on 502.4kHz. G3XIZ is strong but I hear weak CW as=
 if
ON/F6CNI/P is working him on the same QRG.

73

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
Vaasa / KP03SD


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Hello Vernon,

tuning frequency is 502.4kHz USB mode.
I will run a WSPR beacon tonight (20-24UTC).

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T



At 16:38 29/10/2009, you wrote:
>Hi everyone.....what dial frequency is everyone using for 500khz wspr....I
>finally have my long wires out and have been monitoring. I can leave WSPR
>running almost 24/7 to see if I can catch a WSPR signal from across the
>pond. I did catch a couple last year which was great!!!
>
>Regards,
>
>Vernon - VE1VDM
>FN85ij



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Hello LF,

Will active this evening 24 Sat from 19Z in QSO mode 137710 QRSS3.
Maybe a few hours later will give some "GB" on 137776 QRSS30 if 
temperature in my LF shack will good enough for me (+5C now).
1.5A antenna current in T-vertical 16 m high 80 m horizontal long.

73! EW6GB in KO45CN


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Walter

I've just started monitoring WSPR at 19:54UTC on 503.590 dial from Shetland

I hope to see your sigs soon. Spots are being uploaded to wspr.net


John
GM4SLV
IP90gg

Walter und Marianne Staubach wrote:
> DI2AG is now in WSPR. TX QRG 505.090, Dial 503.590. Pwr 0.5W ERP.
> Please listen to my beacon.
> 
> 73   Walter    DI2AG / DJ2LF
> 
> 


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Claude,

I copied the attached signal in the 2230-2245 period, well before local sunset. The Loran line is at 776.104. 

John, W1TAG
(in Maine at FN43sv)

---- Claude Berthebaud <f8boj@club-internet.fr> wrote: 
> GM Laurence
> I passed this evening "BOJ" on the frequency 137776.12hz in qrss 60 
>  I started transmission at 18h you Finally just to finish at 10.40 you ... this is my transmission on the grabber of RN3AGC ... 
> Claude F8boj JN16WA .....
> 
> .
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China 
>   To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 
>   Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 12:43 AM
>   Subject: LF: 137.7761 and a bit
> 
> 
>    
>   Got this just before dawn - wasnt looking at 137 overnight but switched pre dawn here in China. 
>    
>   Dcf39/Mag are way over S9 on a quiet band so I would expect to see Eu sigs with 1W ERP or around on a good day. Looks like another at 777.9 too but very weak.
>    
>   ps also saw some UNID traces on 503.6khz qrss3 but 500 wasnt so good here as 137kHz
>    
>   Laurence KL1 X in BY3A OM89UA China
>   R75 Probe at 80 ft or so.
>    
>   ps time on trace in GMT  was at end point not when sig seen.
>    
>    
> 
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Roger Lapthorn wrote:
> You did very well for your first try with WSPR 


??? No skill was involved on my part. I simply downloaded the software, 
followed the instructions and went to bed!

73

Richard
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Hello LF!
Both WSPR stations, M0BMU and SM6BHZ, are very good visible here.

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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LF,

Not sure if this is a first for me, but I'm happy nonetheless:

2009-10-17 22:16 W17XSH 0.503930 -27 0 FN42pb 5 GM4SLV IP90gg 4958

Cheers,

John
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18:40 UTC now calling CQ on 137.710 in QRS3, 73 de Toni


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VK2ZTO wrote:

> From the links on the Google site I get the following results.
> 
> 1. GM4SLV - last grab Jan 2009.

Steve, LF

I've stopped running a grabber 24/7, it tied up equipment I wanted for 
other purposes. I can run one on an ad-hoc basis to aid people for 
specific tests if requested though!

Cheers,

John
GM4SLV

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IP90gg


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My QRP beacon is running this evening. Reports welcomed.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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My QRP beacon is running this evening. Reports welcomed.<br><br>73s<br>Rog=
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Dear all,

it is a bit off topic but maybe interesting to some:

 From 16-20 November there is the 6th European=20
Space Weather Week in Bruges (Belgium), see=20
http://sidc.oma.be/esww6/index.php .
Although the primary audience is "professional"=20
some of the lecture are interesting for radio=20
amateurs, as the organizers state:

Special Note:
Radio amateurs with a license to operate are also=20
welcome to the conference and will get a=20
discount. Radio Amateurs are requested to send a=20
copy of their license to=20
<http://sidc.oma.be/esww6/esa.conference@esa.int>esa.conference@esa.int=20
within one week after registration. Registration=20
as a Radio Amateur includes access to scientific=20
sessions on Tuesday and Wednesday only. The=20
reduced fee is 50 =80. Attendance to the reception=20
and conference dinner is not included. The=20
deadline for online <http://sidc.oma.be/esww6/=20
https://participants.congrex.com/scripts/jmevent/Registration.asp?Client_I=
d=3D'CXNL'&Project_Id=3D'09c20'&Form_Id=3D1&Form_Number=3D2&Stand_Id=3D0&A=
=3D&Language_Code=3D&template_id=3D>registration=20
for hams is October 19.

In addition I received a mail from Juha-Pekka=20
Luntama  (Space Situational Awareness Programme,=20
Space Weather Manager,  ESA). He is interested to=20
find a radio amateur who wants to give a talk:

I am organising a splinter meeting titled as=20
Ionospheric Effects Topical Group during the 6th=20
European Space Weather Week. I would be=20
interested on inviting you or somebody else from=20
the HAMS community to give a small presentation=20
about the ionospheric effects on radio signal=20
propagation from the HAMS point of view.
I would like to be in contact with ppl who are=20
planning to participate the meeting and who would=20
be interested to give a presentation. It is also=20
prefectly possible to have more than one person=20
(maybe 1-2) to give the talk. The interesting=20
topic would be the HAMS perspective and e.g. do=20
you use existing space weather services or other=20
information to predict when conditions suitable=20
for your long distance communication links might exist.

73, Rik   ON7YD - OR7T=20

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Dear all,<br><br>
it is a bit off topic but maybe interesting to some:<br><br>
 From 16-20 November there is the 6th European Space Weather Week in
Bruges (Belgium), see
<a href=3D"http://sidc.oma.be/esww6/index.php" eudora=3D"autourl">
http://sidc.oma.be/esww6/index.php</a> .<br>
Although the primary audience is &quot;professional&quot; some of the
lecture are interesting for radio amateurs, as the organizers
state:<br><br>
<font color=3D"#0000FF"><i>Special Note: <br>
Radio amateurs with a license to operate are also welcome to the
conference and will get a discount. Radio Amateurs are requested to send
a copy of their license to
<a href=3D"http://sidc.oma.be/esww6/esa.conference@esa.int">
esa.conference@esa.int</a> within one week after registration.
Registration as a Radio Amateur includes access to scientific sessions on
Tuesday and Wednesday only. The reduced fee is 50 =80. Attendance to the
reception and conference dinner is not included. The deadline for online
<a href=3D"http://sidc.oma.be/esww6/ https://participants.congrex.com/scri=
pts/jmevent/Registration.asp?Client_Id=3D'CXNL'&amp;Project_Id=3D'09c20'&a=
mp;Form_Id=3D1&amp;Form_Number=3D2&amp;Stand_Id=3D0&amp;A=3D&amp;Language_=
Code=3D&amp;template_id=3D">
registration</a> for hams is October 19. <br><br>
</i></font>In addition I received a mail from <font size=3D2>Juha-Pekka
Luntama</font>&nbsp; (<font size=3D2>Space Situational Awareness Programme=
,
Space Weather Manager,&nbsp; ESA). He is interested to find a radio
amateur who wants to give a talk:<br><br>
</font><font color=3D"#0000FF"><i>I am organising a splinter meeting title=
d
as Ionospheric Effects Topical Group during the 6th European Space
Weather Week. I would be interested on inviting you or somebody else from
the HAMS community to give a small presentation about the ionospheric
effects on radio signal propagation from the HAMS point of view. <br>
I would like to be in contact with ppl who are planning to participate
the meeting and who would be interested to give a presentation. It is
also prefectly possible to have more than one person (maybe 1-2) to give
the talk. The interesting topic would be the HAMS perspective and e.g. do
you use existing space weather services or other information to predict
when conditions suitable for your long distance communication links might
exist. <br><br>
</i></font>73, Rik&nbsp;&nbsp; ON7YD - OR7T</body>
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Hello Pete,
Thanks for watching & the capture.

73

Gary - G4WGT.

2009/10/11 M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>

>    Hi Gary And LF
>>
>> You are very strong wth me note qsb at 21:27. Trace from Winrad.
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>> 73 petefmt
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<div>You are very strong wth me note qsb at 21:27. Trace from Winrad.</div=
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Curious UNID signal centred on 137.705 kHz, captured at 2130, but has=
 been coming and goinf for several hours. U I thiught that it might ha=
ve been local to me, but I see it on Markus's grabber too.

73m Dave G3WCB IO91RM





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Dear LF

 

Is Grimeton on the air this weekend on 17.2?   Would I be able to hear it on
my "fair to middlin'" 500KHz antenna or my shiny new Mini Whip or do I need
to wind the coil from hell!!??

 

With best regards

 

 

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 17.2?&nbsp;&nbsp; Would I be
able to hear it on my &#8220;fair to middlin&#8217;&#8221; 500KHz ante=
nna or my
shiny new Mini Whip or do I need to wind the coil from hell!!??<o:p></=
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GB4FPR   Cw test  at  1600 to  1700 utc to day .. put out a few  cqs=
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Alan,
> Ah Warren you mis-interpreted that picture!! it was a Reliant Robin fitt=
ed
> to the base of a 160m whip :-))

   There will always be an England!
--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
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On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Alan Melia <alan.melia@btinternet.com> wr=
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> Ah Warren you mis-interpreted that picture!! it was a Reliant Robin fitt=
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> to the base of a 160m whip :-))
>
> Alan G3NYK
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Many years ago there was a picture in QST of a Robin Reliant fitted
> for 160 meter mobile operation with a large antenna - very comical!
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WD2XGJ
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> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 6:11 PM, John RABSON <john.rabson@numeo.fr> wrot=
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>> On 23/10/2009 at 21:54 Graham wrote:
>>
>>>> *** 'crazy'? That's nothing. According to UK automobile regulations,
>>>the
>>>> Reliant Robin (a 3-wheeled vehicle with a fully enclosed fibreglass
>>>body)
>>>> is a motorcycle
>>
>> I should have put motor tricycle.
>>
>>>Oh no its not ... Its a motorcycle combination .. ie motorcycle with
>>>a side car .and has 3 wheels ... with only one driven . just happens
>>
>> According to the registration documents for my Reliants, they were moto=
r
> tricycles. A motorcycle combination would have been a motor bicycle with
> sidecar.
>>
>> John F5VLF
>>
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When mine=92s not on 500 it is watching 5649/5616/5598 Shanwick Aeradi=
o and
the Gander Freqs on 8.8xx and is a lot better than my dipole I also us=
e for
these. The noise level creeps up in the evening a little but not so mu=
ch as
to cause grief.   My Rx is an old JRC 505 which has v good sensitivity=
 at
LF/MF of around 1uV on cw/ssb.   My 515 is also good down here. =20

=20

Mine is on the end of my garage on top of a 5m alloy pole and then top=
ped
with 2 metres of wood.  Feeder is about 25m of RG58 back to the bias=
 t in
the shack.

=20

=20

=20

With best regards

=20

=20

Jim

=20

=20

Dr. James Cowburn

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  _____ =20

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
Sent: 21 October 2009 18:38
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Best receiving antenna wanted

=20

Hi Horst, Jim, LF,

=20

Same here, I have used a PA0RDT Mini-Whip active antenna for a good wh=
ile
now & it's performance is very good right down to 10kHz, may even go=
 lower
if I knew what to look for !!!

=20

My online grabbers use the Mini-Whip antenna.

=20

73,

=20

Gary - G4WGT.

2009/10/21 James Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.net>

Hi Horst

I've just installed one of Roelof Bakker's (PA0RDT) active mini whips=
 and it
is excellent at my QTH.  Just my view, others may have different exper=
iences

With best regards


Jim


Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS


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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
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er
Sent: 21 October 2009 17:26
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Best receiving antenna wanted

Hello,
now that I am happy with my selectiv level meter Praecitronic MV-62 I=
 am
looking for the best receicing antenna.
Especially I am interested in 400khz, 136kHz, 72kHz and below 22 kHz.=
 With
my 40m longwire reception is not good enough and with a frame antenna=
 of
900m copper wire it was disappointing, too..
I think, an active antenna for 0 to 500 MHz would be the best for me=
 - but I
am looking forward to any other idea.
vy73 Horst DO1KHS
_______________________________________________________________
Neu: WEB.DE DSL bis 50.000 kBit/s und 200,- Euro Startguthaben!
http://produkte.web.de/go/02/




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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>When mine&#821=
7;s not on 500 it is
watching 5649/5616/5598 Shanwick Aeradio and the Gander Freqs on 8.8xx=
 and is a
lot better than my dipole I also use for these. The noise level creeps=
 up in
the evening a little but not so much as to cause grief. =A0=A0My Rx is=
 an old JRC
505 which has v good sensitivity at LF/MF of around 1uV on cw/ssb. =A0=
=A0My 515 is
also good down here.=A0 <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Mine is on the=
 end of my garage on top of
a 5m alloy pole and then topped with 2 metres of wood.=A0 Feeder is ab=
out 25m of
RG58 back to the bias t in the shack.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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yle=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>With best rega=
rds</span></font><font  color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'><o:p><=
/o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New Rom=
an"><span  style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></font></p>

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an"><span  style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></font></p>

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eestyle Script"><span  style=3D'font-size:24.0pt;font-family:"Freestyl=
e Script";color:navy'>Jim</span></font></b></strong><font  color=3Dnav=
y><span style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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an"><span  style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></sp=
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yle=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dr. James Cowb=
urn</span></font><font  color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'><o:p><=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:10.0pt;  font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></fo=
nt></b><font size=3D2  face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:Tahoma'> owner-<st1:PersonName  w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@b=
lacksheep.org</st1:PersonName> [mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName  w:st=3D"=
on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName>] <b><span  style=3D'=
font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Gary - G4WGT<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 21 October 2009=
 18:38<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:s=
t=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: LF: RE: Be=
st
receiving antenna wanted</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size:  12.0pt'>Hi Horst, Jim, LF,<o:p></o:p></span></font><=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size:  12.0pt'>Same here, I have used a PA0RDT Mini-Whip ac=
tive antenna for a good
while now &amp; it's performance is very good right down to 10kHz, may=
 even go
lower if I knew what to look for !!!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size:  12.0pt'>My online grabbers use the Mini-Whip antenna=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size:  12.0pt'>73,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D3  fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Gary - G4WGT.<=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size:  12.0pt'>2009/10/21 James Cowburn &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:james.cowburn@virgin.net">james.cowburn@virgin.net</a>&gt;<o:p></o:=
p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D3  fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Hi Horst<br>
<br>
I've just installed one of Roelof Bakker's (PA0RDT) active mini whips=
 and it<br>
is excellent at my QTH. &nbsp;Just my view, others may have different
experiences<br>
<br>
With best regards<br>
<br>
<br>
Jim<br>
<br>
<br>
Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">owner-rsgb=
_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a><br>
[mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">owner-rs=
gb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>]
On Behalf Of Horst St=F6cker<br>
Sent: 21 October 2009 17:26<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</a><br>
Subject: LF: Best receiving antenna wanted<br>
<br>
Hello,<br>
now that I am happy with my selectiv level meter Praecitronic MV-62 I=
 am<br>
looking for the best receicing antenna.<br>
Especially I am interested in 400khz, 136kHz, 72kHz and below 22 kHz.=
 With<br>
my 40m longwire reception is not good enough and with a frame antenna=
 of<br>
900m copper wire it was disappointing, too..<br>
I think, an active antenna for 0 to 500 MHz would be the best for me=
 - but I<br>
am looking forward to any other idea.<br>
vy73 Horst DO1KHS<br>
_______________________________________________________________<br>
Neu: <a href=3D"http://WEB.DE" target=3D"_blank">WEB.DE</a> DSL bis 50=
.000 kBit/s
und 200,- Euro Startguthaben!<br>
<a href=3D"http://produkte.web.de/go/02/" target=3D"_blank">http://pro=
dukte.web.de/go/02/</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Henny,
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2009/10/6 henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>:
> Hello Warren,LF
> Nice capture XGJ
> Henny pa3cpm
> best 73s
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden
> verzonden:
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Dear all,

around 22.20 UTC on October 13th, 2009 G3LDO audible in QRSS RST 579 fb
in JN68GN, eastern Bavaria.

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB


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Lots of acty on 160m CW at present 1540 utc RZ3AM plus ES1, OH, UT3 al=
l good signals. Looks good for DX on 600 m if anyone is about
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Dear all,

G3LDO, in slower QRSS than before, again audible 579, QRN low, in
eastern Bavaria, JN68GN, around 21,30 UTC on 501,1 kHz (I needed some
time to count out the lengths of dots and dashes; still no visual
reception here).

Next weekend Germany will change to winter time; then just 1 hour
difference to UTC here.

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB


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From: YO2IS
 Hi Dex, you can find more information about the 314m BC tower
 searching with the Google for: LAKIHEGYI TOWER.
 The tower is still in use broadcasting on 540 KHz KOSUTH RADIO
 with an impressive 2 MW !.
 Some more info I found in the hungarian TECHNIKAI LEXIKON ed. 1927
 
  best wishes, Szigy.


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Thank you Andrey!
XGJ will be off tonight.


-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
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                WE2XGR/1





On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Andrey rn3agc <rn3agc@mail.ru> wrote:
> Hello Warren, Henny, LF,
> Capture at 01.05z.
> More poorly, than in two last nights(
>
> 73 Andrey
>
>
>> Hi Warren,LF
>> Capture XGJ
>> Henny cpm
>> best 73s
>>
>


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Indeed, I dare say they were at yours but I have a rubbish RX system built
on the sandy premises of hope, optimism and compromise!!

Chewing gum and sealing wax are my friends!!

With best regards
 
 
Jim G7NKS
 
 
Dr. James Cowburn
E james.cowburn@virgin.net
 

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On 5 Oct 2009 at 21:09, James Cowburn wrote:

> OZ8NJ Niels in QSO with G3XPU  Clive at my loc io92ub between 20.30 BST
> and 21.00 BST both 577

577????? They were both 579, beautiful tone, here in IO91PJ Bracknell.

Dave

http://www.davesergeant.com




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Chris=20
Do  not use audio amps for RF. Build a class D or E amp and operate tr=
ouble free. Audio amps were tried by some in the early days but never=
 worked properly.=20
Read the horror stories of yesteryears about using audio amps for RF=
 applications. Buckets of burnt out FETS.
73 De Mal/g3kev

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Subject: LF: AF Amps at 136


  Hi All,
  Just started constructing TX for 136kHz, noticed Maplin do a Vellema=
n audio PA kit that is rated at 200W (100W RMS into 4R). OK there's no=
 mains transformer or heat sink, but reckon it's good value at =A314.9=
9. Point is the specs also say the minus 3db frequency response is 3Hz=
 / 200kHz.
  The RSGB books 'LF Today' refer to using audio amps as PAs at 136 wi=
th 'a few modifications'. Does anybody know where these modifications=
 are documented? I guess there's nothing major, reduce a few cap value=
s? Remove Zobel Network etc.?? If anyone has experience with this appr=
oach I would appreciate some hints. Thanks.
  Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable.


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 De Mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi All,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just started constructing TX for 13=
6kHz, noticed=20
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to 4R). OK=20
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Tnx Ossi
for report from Austria
mal/g3kev
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> g3kev 30 db over nois here in jn68rd
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>


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Vernon

We are  using   502.400 usb dial frequency  in uk and eu .. the  top section 
of the  uk 501-504 allocation , g4jnt wspr  24/7 beacon is also  established 
in this  section

73 - G ..

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>
> Hi everyone.....what dial frequency is everyone using for 500khz wspr....I
> finally have my long wires out and have been monitoring. I can leave WSPR
> running almost 24/7 to see if I can catch a WSPR signal from across the
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Hello Henny captured last evening.
The stong signal it's F8BOJ.
 
73 de F4DTL  Nicolas

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Hello Graham,

 

>> sri, sri, statics are too strong this night, I had to switch off the
Rx...

I hope condx will better tomorrow.

No problem at all in monitoring both signal,  PSK31 and Thorb-2;

I have made a short test some minutes ago and can see both signals and
BPSK31 was managing some "decoding attemps".

>> And in parallel I am monitoring Andy's WSPR-beacon with -24 dB !!! as a
signal level reference.

Signals are poor this evening in comparison to our PSK31 some days ago.

 

Hope to meet again you tomorrow on 503 kHz.

 

vy 73 de Gerhard  //  DK6NI

 

 

 

 

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Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Oktober 2009 00:14
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: >>> PSK31 ADDED LF: Throb -2- on 503.000 AND PSK31 503.300 <<<<<<<<

 

Added  PSK31  on  503.300  , will be a  -3 dB  drop in peak level when in
simultaneous  TX due to  tx alc action 

 

503.000    throb -2-

503.300    PSK31 

 

    Tnx - G .. 

 

From: Graham <mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>  

Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 10:13 PM

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 

Subject: Re: LF: Throb -2- Beacon running on 503.000 center frequency

 

Thank you  for the  report Gerhard 

 

Be interested as to your  comments on the  decode , compared to the  psk qso


as it looks like the  condx are worse ? 

 

What is the  peak signal level ?

 

tnx - G 

 

 

From: Graham <mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>  

Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 6:52 PM

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Subject: LF: Throb -2- Beacon running on 503.000 center frequency

 

Throb 2 beacon on 503.000  

 

running  :  fldigi , throb mode -2- center  frequency  503.000 Khz 

 

TX  set USB , Rx 'on during  60 second tx pause ,

 

Interested to  see  how the  mode prints / recovers  in the  noise / qsb  

 

Reports welcome ,

 

Tnx - Graham

G0NBD

 

 

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hel=
lo Graham,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&gt=
;&gt; sri, sri,
statics are too strong this night, I had to switch off the Rx&#8230;..=
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I=
 hope condx will better
tomorrow.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span=
 lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;f=
ont-weight:bold'>No problem
at all in monitoring both signal,&nbsp; PSK31 and Thorb-2;<o:p></o:p><=
/span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;back=
ground:yellow'>I have
made a short test some minutes ago and can see <b><i><span style=3D'fo=
nt-weight: bold;font-style:italic'>both signals</span></i></b> and BPS=
K31 was managing
some &#8220;decoding attemps&#8221;&#8230;</span></font><font size=3D2=
 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0p=
t;font-family: Arial;color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&gt=
;&gt; And in parallel
I am monitoring <b><i><span style=3D'font-weight:bold;font-style:itali=
c'>Andy&#8217;s
WSPR-beacon with -24 dB !!! as a signal level reference</span></i></b>=
&#8230;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Sig=
nals are poor this
evening in comparison to our PSK31 some days ago.<o:p></o:p></span></f=
ont></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hop=
e to meet again you
tomorrow on 503 kHz&#8230;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>vy=
 73 de Gerhard&nbsp;
//&nbsp; DK6NI<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></font></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New Rom=
an"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font><o=
:p></o:p></p>

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t size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>

<hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter tabindex=3D-1>

</span></font></div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Von:</span></font=
></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:Tahoma'> owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@black=
sheep.org</st1:PersonName> [mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">r=
sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName>] <b><span style=3D'font-w=
eight:bold'>Im Auftrag von </span></b>Graham<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Donnerstag,=
 8. Oktober
2009 00:14<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:s=
t=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> &gt;&gt;&gt;=
 PSK31 ADDED
LF: Throb -2- on 503.000 AND PSK31 503.300 &lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt=
;&lt;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Added&nbsp; PSK31&nbsp; on&nbsp; 503.30=
0&nbsp; , will be
a&nbsp; -3 dB&nbsp; drop in peak level when in simultaneous&nbsp; TX=
 due
to&nbsp; tx alc action </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>503.000&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;throb -2=
-</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>503.300&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;PSK31 </=
span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></font><font=
 size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Ari=
al'>Tnx - G .. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-=
size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<div style=3D'font-color:black'>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><font size=3D2=
 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font=
-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><spa=
n style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a href=3D"mailto:g8f=
zk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk" title=3D"g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><font size=3D2=
 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font=
-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><spa=
n style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
Wednesday, October 07, 2009 10:13 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><font size=3D2=
 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font=
-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span=
 style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a href=3D"mailto:rsgb=
_lf_group@blacksheep.org" title=3D"rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_=
lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><font size=3D2=
 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font=
-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><=
span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Re: LF:
Throb -2- Beacon running on 503.000 center frequency<o:p></o:p></span>=
</font></p>

</div>

</div>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Thank you&nbsp; for the&nbsp; report Ge=
rhard </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Be interested as to your&nbsp; comments=
 on the&nbsp; decode
, compared to the&nbsp; psk qso </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>as it looks like the&nbsp; condx are wo=
rse ? </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>What is the&nbsp; peak signal level ?</=
span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>tnx - G </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-=
size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<div style=3D'font-color:black'>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><font size=3D2=
 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font=
-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><spa=
n style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a href=3D"mailto:g8f=
zk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk" title=3D"g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><font size=3D2=
 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font=
-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><spa=
n style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
Wednesday, October 07, 2009 6:52 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><font size=3D2=
 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font=
-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span=
 style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a href=3D"mailto:rsgb=
_lf_group@blacksheep.org" title=3D"rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_=
lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><font size=3D2=
 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font=
-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><=
span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> LF: Throb
-2- Beacon running on 503.000 center frequency<o:p></o:p></span></font=
></p>

</div>

</div>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Throb 2 beacon on 503.000&nbsp; </span>=
</font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>running&nbsp; :&nbsp; fldigi , throb mo=
de -2- center&nbsp;
frequency&nbsp; 503.000 Khz </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>TX &nbsp;set USB , Rx 'on during&nbsp;=
 60 second tx pause ,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Interested to&nbsp; see&nbsp; how the&n=
bsp; mode prints /
recovers &nbsp;in the&nbsp; noise / qsb&nbsp; </span></font><o:p></o:p=
></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Reports welcome</span></font>&nbsp;<fon=
t size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Ar=
ial'>,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Tnx - Graham</span></font><o:p></o:p></=
p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>G0NBD</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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No virus found in this incoming message.<br>
Checked by AVG - <a href=3D"http://www.avg.com">www.avg.com</a> <br>
Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.5/2419 - Release Date: 10/07=
/09
05:18:00<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <br>
Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.5/2419 - Release Date: 10/07=
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Hello, LF

Received GW3UEP RST 439 on 501.1kHz 1830UTC. Call + carrier etc.

73

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 2009-10-17 16:04  G3XBM  0.503920  -25  0  JO02dg  0.001  G0KTN  IO81ti
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210kms - brilliant!!! Thanks G0KTN.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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I am Fausto IK4NMF,=20
I am interested to a DECCA 5501 amplifier.=20
Does anyone know if any unit is available on the market surplus in uk.=
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I have search on the web without success.=20

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? Was it only  me who copied the  beacon ..... was a better  signal la=
st time ..  but how to  report it .. all I can find is  G0VSJ Shifnal=
=20

G ..=20

NB:  (I wonder if the  amazing CFA is still there  on top of the  hill=
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From: Graham=20
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 7:39 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: G0VSJ cw beacon 503.25=20


Getting a signal from G0VSJ  cw beacon on 503.25  , sig about S4 in io=
83lk
giving  qth as io82tp  .. I think was the beacon I picked up last week=
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G .=20


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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>? Was it only&nbsp; me who copied the=
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..... was a better&nbsp; signal last time ..&nbsp; but how to&nbsp; re=
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all I can find is&nbsp; <FONT size=3D3>G0VSJ Shifnal<FONT   face=3D"Ti=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G .. </FONT></DIV>
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w Roman">NB:=20
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dg8fzk@g8fzk.f=
snet.co.uk   href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 04, 2009 7:39 PM</DIV>
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to:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: G0VSJ cw beacon 503.25 </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Getting a signal from G0VSJ&nbsp; cw=
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503.25&nbsp; , sig about S4 in io83lk</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>giving&nbsp; qth as io82tp&nbsp; ..=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G . </FONT></DIV>
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G'day John,

No worries. Understood.

Thanks for the info.

73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John P-G" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
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> VK2ZTO wrote:
> 
>> From the links on the Google site I get the following results.
>> 
>> 1. GM4SLV - last grab Jan 2009.
> 
> Steve, LF
> 
> I've stopped running a grabber 24/7, it tied up equipment I wanted for 
> other purposes. I can run one on an ad-hoc basis to aid people for 
> specific tests if requested though!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> John
> GM4SLV
> 
> -- 
> http://gm4slv.blogspot.com
> Clousta, Shetland
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Horst/LF,

>On 23/10/2009 at 11:53 Horst St=F6cker wrote:

>If it's meant, that these frequencies are HAM radio frequencies in german=
y this is not correct.  Unfortunately the lowest HAM radio band for legal=
 amateur radio transmissions in germany is still 137 kHz.

>OMs who are transmitting on 404 or 505 kHz do this with a DI Callsign. DI=
 is for experimental stations and everyone - not just licensed radio amate=
urs - can apply for such a DI call. But it costs a lot of money over the=
 time. By definition DI is not HAM radio - crazy germans ;-)) ***  Horst=
 DO1KHS

Thank you for the info.  The article referred to was talking about the pos=
sible usefulness of frequencies near 500kHz for Cave Radio.  In most count=
ries this is not part of the Amateur Service, but as many cave radio enthu=
siasts are also radio amateurs it seemed a good idea to provide informatio=
n on other non-professional activities in that part of the spectrum.

73
John F5VLF

*** 'crazy'?  That's nothing.  According to UK automobile regulations, the=
 Reliant Robin (a 3-wheeled vehicle with a fully enclosed fibreglass body)=
 is a motorcycle



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Hi LF,
Strong signal JBO
Henny pa3cpm
73s
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Hello Jim, LF!
Yes, 137kHz band was open and there were no QRN. I saw your DFCW signal when you had got QSO with DJ6GT yesterday morning. I made QSO with IK5ZPV and RU6LA. I saw F8BOJ and SO5AS as well. I am going to be active on 137kHz today, so I hope to see your signal again. We would try to do a QSO.

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Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency=20

TX set  502.000 USB
Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency=20

Repeat time 60  seconds =20

RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'  time=20

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Hello Nicolas, Henny,
Propagation now good, but the big level QRN because of thunder-storms in the Mediterranean.

73 Andrey




Thanx Henny,beacon to RN3AGC's grabber without success last night.

F4DTL Nicolas




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Sujet : LF: DTL 27-10.jpg



Hi LF,
Capture DTL
Henny pa3cpm
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Hello Niels!

579 now on 502.0kHz calling CQ at 1915UTC

Impressive Rtot value, a description of your antenna / earth would be
interesting.

73

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ


Quoting niels rudberg j=F8rgensen <niels.rudberg@post.tele.dk>:

> Hello LF group!
> Back on the band after a pause I last evening made a short
> cw call on 500 kHz resulting in a solid-copy qso with
> Mal, G3KEV. Several reports appeared on the reflector and
> I do appreciate the swift responses. Thank you all.
> My tx is now running about 550 Watts resulting in an
> antenna current of 6.4 Amps which brings the resistive
> component of my antenna impedance astonishing close to
> the figure of 3.5 Ohm which I remember was a requirement
> in the old days when I worked with the design of marine
> radio equipment! As far as ERP is regarded I reckon I am
> fairly close to the power limit of 13 dBW I was granted.
> Trying to be active in the evenings after 19 UTC for cw-contacts.
> Sorry at the present not to be able to make cross-band qsos as
> I have got one transmitting antenna only. However looking
> for a solution.
> 73
> OZ8NJ  Niels+




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Marcin
Can u work xband I will TX 502.57 qrs3 and I will QSX 137.7=20
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de mal/g3kev

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  Hi LF!
  Station SP2KDS will be work today,
  Operation in QRSS will start from 19:00 UTC on 137.700kHz (QRRS3) an=
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  Vy 73!
  Marcin SQ2BXI


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hi LF
137776.20hz BOJ qrss 60...21h18 TU
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Hi Peter!

Looking 501.1 ? Right?
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Hello Warren, Henny, LF,
Capture at 01.05z.
More poorly, than in two last nights(

73 Andrey


> Hi Warren,LF
> Capture XGJ
> Henny cpm
> best 73s
> 

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Hi John.

>Hi Marcus,
>
>Very interesting.  What software are you using with the sound card,=
 please?
>
>73,
>John Rabson
>F5VLF
>58800 Cervon
>France
>JN17vg

It's a nice software written by G3PLX, Peter, named GPS Locked LORAN=
=20
Receiver.

It uses the pps from a gps receiver applied to the LF rig antenna inpu=
t at=20
very low levels as time & frequency reference source.

The software finds this pulses and uses them to lock the sound card sa=
mple=20
rate timing and audio center frequency (1750Hz nominal) to gps pps.

Requires a stable LF rig with 1Hz frequency accuracy tuned to 98.25KHz=
 on=20
USB, the widest IF filter avialable (300 ... 3000). The PC clock must=
 be=20
locked to any NTP server or any other method that keeps the PC time ac=
curate=20
to 1 second or less.

There is a built in Loran chain database where the GPS itself is the=
 GRI=20
10000 and have the same lat/lon as the receiveing station. Using this=
=20
database & station lat/lon it calculates and overlap the screen mask=
 for the=20
chain currently monitored.

Several other measurements such as TOA, phase and relative amplitude=
 of the=20
received signals, a simple log feature or screen shots (scope & waterf=
all)=20
manual save exists on it.

It's being modified and tested for some time now and in few days there=
 will=20
be a link to download it.

73
Marcus Ramos
PY3CRX/PY2PLL
LAT -23.765116=B0 / LON -46.553797=B0
S=E3o Bernardo do Campo - SP
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Hi Mal,
I did not expect that I will see your signal in such early evening.
capture at 18.21z

73 Andrey


> Nw qrv 502.57 CW and QRS3 as appropriate for QSO also QSX 7033 for DX QSO's
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Warren
Great propagation around EU and Russia at present on 500. I have been copied 
in Russia and eastern EU while daylight here, also 160m is good with daytime 
reception and QSO'S as far as the Moscow area
Probably good to the west but not sure if anyone is monitoring in the USA 
during evening time here.
73 de mal/g3kev

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>I have noted that Alan Melia has not updated his propagation  report
> since the 7th of July!
> Hope all is well with Alan!
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>
> -- 
> 73 Warren K2ORS
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There is no 'chance' involved.  The strong source coding employed in all the
WSJT modes to get the number of bits to be encoded down to an absolute
minimum, before proper error correction is added, removes all wasted
redundancy in the original callsign format.   This has the result that most
*truly random* bit patterns will therefore generate a valid looking
callsign.  Its an artefact of efficient coding.

That this only happens occasionally is due to the strong properly
constructed error correction that is subsequently added.

* BUT*    As the callsign is not encoded in the most efficient way it could
possibly be (which would be a codebook of all the radio-ams in the world  =
1 million perhaps with a 20 bit reference number) we identify an invalid
callsign by experience, and by correlating with known propagation / locator
facts.

Information theory is a wonderful study - and being able to be put into
practice more easily with cheap processing power than it ever was before.
I'll be covering this, amongst other aspects of weak signalling, at the
Martlesham Microwave Roundtable.  http://mmrt.homedns.org/start.html   (talk
entitled 6dB better than CW.)

Andy
www.g4jnt.com

this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny state


2009/10/24 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>

>  Roger
>
> This happened ..
>
> G ,,
>
>   Timestamp Call MHz SNR Drift Grid Pwr Reporter RGrid km az  2009-10-24
> 16:58   G3XBM   0.503917   -28   0   JO02dg   0.001   G0NBD   IO83   261
>  302
>
>  *From:* Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 24, 2009 4:55 PM
> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> *Subject:* LF: 500kHz 1mW WSPR beaconing
>
> This will be active periodically over the weekend. It would be nice to get
> a few new reporters spotting me.
>
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM
>
> --
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
> http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
> G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088
>
> ------------------------------
>
>
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<div>There is no &#39;chance&#39; involved.=A0 The strong source coding em=
ployed in all the WSJT modes to get the=A0number of bits to be encoded dow=
n to an absolute minimum, before proper error correction is added,=A0remov=
es all wasted redundancy in the original callsign format.=A0=A0 This has=
 the result that most <u>truly random</u> bit patterns will therefore gene=
rate a valid looking callsign.=A0 Its an artefact of efficient coding.</di=
v>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>That this only happens occasionally is due to the strong properly con=
structed error correction that is subsequently added.=A0=A0 </div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div><strong>=A0BUT</strong> =A0=A0 As the callsign is not encoded in the=
 most efficient way it could possibly be (which would be a codebook of all=
 the radio-ams in the world=A0 =3D 1 million perhaps=A0with a 20 bit refer=
ence number) we identify an invalid callsign by experience, and by correla=
ting with known propagation / locator facts.=A0=A0</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>Information theory is a wonderful study - and being able to be put in=
to practice more easily with cheap processing power than it ever was befor=
e.=A0=A0 I&#39;ll be covering this, amongst other aspects of weak signalli=
ng, at the Martlesham Microwave Roundtable.=A0 <a href=3D"http://mmrt.home=
dns.org/start.html">http://mmrt.homedns.org/start.html</a>=A0=A0 (talk ent=
itled 6dB better than CW.)</div>

<div><br clear=3D"all">Andy<br><a href=3D"http://www.g4jnt.com">www.g4jnt.=
com</a><br><br>this email has been scanned for political correctness by th=
e nanny state<br><br><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/24 Graham <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk</a>&gt;</span>=
<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">
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 name=3D"Compose message area">
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Roger </font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">This happened ..</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">G ,,</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
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<tbody>
<tr>
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<th>Call</th>
<th>MHz</th>
<th>SNR</th>
<th>Drift</th>
<th>Grid</th>
<th>Pwr</th>
<th>Reporter</th>
<th>RGrid</th>
<th>km</th>
<th>az</th></tr>
<tr>
<td align=3D"right">=A02009-10-24 16:58=A0</td>
<td align=3D"left">=A0G3XBM=A0</td>
<td align=3D"right">=A00.503917=A0</td>
<td align=3D"right">=A0-28=A0</td>
<td align=3D"right">=A00=A0</td>
<td align=3D"left">=A0JO02dg=A0</td>
<td align=3D"right">=A00.001=A0</td>
<td align=3D"left">=A0G0NBD=A0</td>
<td align=3D"left">=A0IO83=A0</td>
<td align=3D"right">=A0261=A0</td>
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<div style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
<div><br></div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<div><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"mailto:rogerlapthorn@gmail.com  CTRL + Click=
 to follow link" href=3D"mailto:rogerlapthorn@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank"=
>Roger Lapthorn</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 24, 2009 4:55 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org  CTRL + Cl=
ick to follow link" href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D=
"_blank">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> LF: 500kHz 1mW WSPR beaconing</div></div></div>
<div><br></div>This will be active periodically over the weekend. It would=
 be nice to get a few new reporters spotting me.<br><br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM=
<br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>---------------------------------------------=
----------------<br>
<a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://g3xbm-=
qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk/" target=3D"_bl=
ank">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL=
 G11088<br>
<p>
<hr>

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The aerial in KO86np: http://rn3agc.msk.ru/filez/ant-KO86np.gif

73 Andrey


> Hi Henny, LF!
> Henny, in the morning I have been pleasantly surprised, having seen your signal.
> Last night received also F8BOJ and UA9CS.
> The next night the grabber too will work. Further till Monday it is OFF.
> Tomorrow I leave in KO86NP. The receiver there will be included every
> evening from 21.00. I hope, the air there will be purer, than in Moscow.
> I will inform results SWL when I will return, on Sunday or Monday.
> Excuse me for bad English:)
> 
> 73 Andrey
> 
> 
>> Hi Andrey,LF,
>> TNX for the grabber,
>> antenne sloper,200 watt 2150km
>> Henny pa3cpm
>> best 73s
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Marcin,

thanks for the reports

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

At 21:33 23/10/2009, you wrote:
>Dear LF
>WSPR OR7T raport:
>1858 -14  0.7   0.503801  0 OR7T JO20 23
>1904  -9  0.8   0.503802  0 OR7T JO20 23
>1908 -13  1.0   0.503802  0 OR7T JO20 23
>1916  -8  1.0   0.503803  0 OR7T JO20 23
>1924 -11  0.9   0.503803  0 OR7T JO20 23
>1932 -19  0.8   0.503803  0 OR7T JO20 23
>1938 -14  1.0   0.503803  0 OR7T JO20 23
>1946 -13  0.9   0.503804  0 OR7T JO20 23
>1950 -13  0.9   0.503804  0 OR7T JO20 23
>1956 -23  1.1   0.503805  0 OR7T JO20 23
>2002  -9  1.0   0.503805  0 OR7T JO20 23
>2010  -7  1.0   0.503805  0 OR7T JO20 23
>2016 -16  0.9   0.503806  0 OR7T JO20 23
>2020  -9  0.9   0.503806  0 OR7T JO20 23
>Recived on Club SP2KDS 160m dipole antenna.
>Vy 73!
>Marcin SQ2BXI



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Or -

"FLASH-FORWARD"
Gary - G4WGT.

2009/10/1 Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>

>  Listened at abt 21:00 Clock time *30th Oct 2009* on 0.5013 mc/s to a fb
> rag chew on CW all stations copied, Finbar in some QSB but abt 90% copied
> here in North Hertfordshire IO91UX.
>
>
> Back to the future ?
>
> ;-)
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
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<div>Or -</div><div><br></div>&quot;FLASH-FORWARD&quot;<div><br></div><div=
>Gary - G4WGT.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/1 Rik Strobbe <sp=
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<div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">Listened at abt 21:00 Clock time
<font color=3D"#FF0000"><b>30th Oct 2009</b></font> on 0.5013 mc/s to a fb
rag chew on CW all stations copied, Finbar in some QSB but abt 90% copied
here in North Hertfordshire IO91UX. </blockquote><br>
Back to the future ?<br><br>
;-)<br><br>
73, Rik=A0 ON7YD - OR7T</div>

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Mal,
this day I been in my girl. :-)
Mayby next club day - friday?
I think copy your signal on normal CW.
--
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI


> Tnx Marcin
> I went qrt early but can TX tonite if u are about.
> de mal/g3kev
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <bxi@go2.pl>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:53 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Re: SP2KDS
>
>
> Mal
> Strong copy your 600m signal audio 56 !
> Marcin SQ2BXI
> ):
>
> > Now looking 137.7
> > mal/g3kev
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Marcin" <bxi@go2.pl>
> > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 5:45 PM
> > Subject: LF: Re: Re: SP2KDS
> >
> >
> > > Hi Mal
> > > OK Mal, I search your signal on 500kHz.
> > > Vy 73!
> > > Marcin SQ2BXI
> > >
> > > Marcin
> > > Can u work xband I will TX 502.57 qrs3 and I will QSX 137.7
> > > Let me know
> > > de mal/g3kev
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Marcin
> > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> > > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 4:04 PM
> > > Subject: LF: SP2KDS
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi LF!
> > > Station SP2KDS will be work today,
> > > Operation in QRSS will start from 19:00 UTC on 137.700kHz (QRRS3) and
> > > 137,778kHz (QRSS60).
> > > Vy 73!
> > > Marcin SQ2BXI
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
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Hi Roman, LF,
Thanks for your info, I have made the changes to the web site.

73

Gary - G4WGT.

2009/10/21 Roman RW3ADB <rw3adb@rambler.ru>

> Hi Gary, LF!
>
> One mistake into links:
>
>> Roman, RN3AGC in Moscow - Locator: KO85SV
>>>
>>
> RN3AGC is not Roman -) Roman it's me, RW3ADB)
> His name is Andrey.
>
>  Alternates between 136 & 500 KHz.
>>>
>>
> Both grabbers in Moscow are switched between 136 and 500 because we use
> only one FT897D at each location.
>
>  http://www.cln.ru/~efremov/grabber.html
>>>
>> This is old link to the old Andrey's site. He is closed now.
> New link to the grabber: http://rn3agc.msk.ru/grabber1.shtml
> New RN3AGC site: http://rn3agc.msk.ru/index.shtml
>
> My site is http://qrss.nm.ru/
> Grabber: http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html
>
> * Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> [Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:30:47 +0100]:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> See the WSPR addition to G4WGT grabber list on UK500KHZ Group.
>>
>> Click on http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers
>> - or copy & paste it into your browser's address bar if that doesn't
>> work.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Gary - G4WGT.
>>
>
> --
> Roman RW3ADB.
>
>

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Hi Roman, LF,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for your info, I have made the cha=
nges to the web site.</div><div><br></div><div>73</div><div><br></div><div=
>Gary - G4WGT.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/21 Roman RW3ADB=
 <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rw3adb@rambler.ru">rw3adb@rambler=
.ru</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Hi Gary, LF!<br>
<br>
One mistake into links:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Roman, RN3AGC in Moscow - Locator: KO85SV<br>
</blockquote></blockquote>
<br>
RN3AGC is not Roman -) Roman it&#39;s me, RW3ADB)<br>
His name is Andrey.<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Alternates between 136 &amp; 500 KHz.<br>
</blockquote></blockquote>
<br>
Both grabbers in Moscow are switched between 136 and 500 because we use on=
ly one FT897D at each location.<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<a href=3D"http://www.cln.ru/~efremov/grabber.html" target=3D"_blank">http=
://www.cln.ru/~efremov/grabber.html</a><br>
</blockquote></blockquote>
This is old link to the old Andrey&#39;s site. He is closed now.<br>
New link to the grabber: <a href=3D"http://rn3agc.msk.ru/grabber1.shtml"=
 target=3D"_blank">http://rn3agc.msk.ru/grabber1.shtml</a><br>
New RN3AGC site: <a href=3D"http://rn3agc.msk.ru/index.shtml" target=3D"_b=
lank">http://rn3agc.msk.ru/index.shtml</a><br>
<br>
My site is <a href=3D"http://qrss.nm.ru/" target=3D"_blank">http://qrss.nm=
.ru/</a><br>
Grabber: <a href=3D"http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html" target=3D"_blank">http=
://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html</a><br>
<br>
* Gary - G4WGT &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk" target=3D"_blank=
">g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk</a>&gt; [Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:30:47 +0100]:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hi All,<br>
<br>
See the WSPR addition to G4WGT grabber list on UK500KHZ Group.<br>
<br>
Click on <a href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-gr=
abbers" target=3D"_blank">http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-=
khz-grabbers</a><br>
- or copy &amp; paste it into your browser&#39;s address bar if that doesn=
&#39;t<br>
work.<br>
<br>
73<br>
<br>
Gary - G4WGT.<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
--<br><font color=3D"#888888">
Roman RW3ADB.<br>
<br>
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Circa 1930s 545 kc in Budapest


Mal,

> I have seen some similar type antennas while flying across the USA years 
> ago
> painted RED and WHITE if I remember correctly.
> That was in the days when LF and MF were the norm for broadcasting, before
> the advent of FM and satellites, although there is still plenty of LF/MF
> broadcasting but mainly low power local stations these days, and antenna
> masts are more modest structures than they used to be.

       Towers are still pained red and white for visibility.

The colour scheme seems sensible but in the UK I have never seen RED and 
WHITE masts. They are GREY regardless of height ie Rugby and Droitwich and 
others. The old 300 ft radar masts on the South coast were just plain wood 
colour.
de mal/g3kev



There has never been any LF broadcasting in the US.

There is a big Blaw-Knox tower in Nashville, Tennessee for station WSM
(650kHz) and a smaller one in Manchester, NH.
The Manchester NH Blaw-Knox tower has been used by hams after hours on
160 meters.

There are just as many high power MW stations and big towers in the US
as before, but now it is common for formerly daytime only stations to
have reduced power at night which creates QRM for MW dxers.

-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1





On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 11:21 AM, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:
> I have seen some similar type antennas while flying across the USA years 
> ago
> painted RED and WHITE if I remember correctly.
> That was in the days when LF and MF were the norm for broadcasting, before
> the advent of FM and satellites, although there is still plenty of LF/MF
> broadcasting but mainly low power local stations these days, and antenna
> masts are more modest structures than they used to be.
> de mal/g3kev
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clemens Paul" <cpaul@gmx.net>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 4:03 PM
> Subject: LF: Re: Circa 1930s 545 kc in Budapest
>
>
>> How about that?
>> http://www.waniewski.de/id414.htm
>>
>> HTH
>> 73
>> Clemens
>> DL4RAJ
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dexter McIntyre W4DEX"
>> <dmcintyre@att.net>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 4:29 PM
>> Subject: LF: Circa 1930s 545 kc in Budapest
>>
>>
>>> I have a 1936 edition of Electrical Engineers Handbook by Pender -
>>> McIlwain
>>> which show a diagram of a 1030 foot antenna in Budapest used on 545 kc.
>>> So far
>>> I have found no history on this antenna. Anyone have any info on this
>>> station
>>> and antenna's history?
>>>
>>> Dex
>>
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Hello Paul-Henrik!
Very thank you for your peport.
73! Marcin

> Hello Marcin!
>=20
> Full call copied from SP2KDS 1931UTC on 137.7kHz
>=20
> Good luck!
>=20
> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
> Vaasa / KP03SD
>=20
>=20
> Quoting Marcin <bxi@go2.pl>:
>=20
> > Hi LF!
> > Station SP2KDS will be work today,
> > Operation in QRSS will start from 19:00 UTC on 137.700kHz (QRRS3) and
> > 137,778kHz (QRSS60).
> > Vy 73!
> > Marcin SQ2BXI
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This was where G3YXM's site originally was. You can now find it at=20
http://wireless.org.uk/

I am sure Dave will comment in due course, I would assume all the stuff=20
on the old site is now on the current one.

73 Dave G3YMC

On 22 Oct 2009 at 10:54, Petr Mal=FD wrote:

> Hello all,
>=20
> I wonder where the following web disappeared:
> http://www.picks.force9.co.uk/index.htm
> is it just temporarily unavailable, moved to another address, or
> canceled totally? It was a great source of information.
>=20
> Second question. I just write an article that is related to MW. Can
> anybody provide a list of countries where the band around 505kHz is
> allowed for normal QSOs (not only beacons). What are the band limits,
> what is the allowed power?
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> Thanks, 73, Petr, OK1FIG
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At 0710z. 4/10/09.

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Hi LF,
Captured last night (2308utc - 01/10/2009).


73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo

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Hi LF,<div><br></div><div>Captured last night (2308utc - 01/10/2009).</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>73</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo</div>

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Dear Rick, LF group
it is my first decode of ur wspr signal 
2118 -21  1.4   0.503868  0 OR7T JO20 23
2118 -22  0.8   0.503929  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
it was also sent  to wspr database

                    73 de Piotr, sq7mpj

qth: Lodz  /jo91rs/




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Hi LF,
I am testing a new 137kHz loading coil & modified matching transformer
tonight.

Frequency 137.710kHz - QRS03 - 10 minute intervals.

Reports welcome.

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.

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Hi LF,<div><br></div><div>I am testing a new 137kHz loading coil &amp; modified matching transformer tonight.</div><div><br></div><div>Frequency 137.710kHz - QRS03 - 10 minute intervals.</div><div><br></div><div>Reports welcome.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.</div>

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Dear All

OZ8NJ Niels in QSO with G3XPU  Clive at my loc io92ub between 20.30 BST and
21.00 BST both 577

With best regards
 
 
Jim G7NKS
 
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Hi Niels!
looking 502.0 grabbers started ON.
PSE QRSS-3 if possible.
RN3AGC copy you 569
Inaudible into my location.


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Hello Warren, LF!
I saw a part of beacon callsign.

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Hello Warren, LF!<br>I saw a part of beacon callsign.<br><br>Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<br>                    <br /><hr />Pøetáhnìte si fotografie pøímo do chatu v Messenger. Jak se do dìlá. <a href='http://download.live.com/messenger' target='_new'>Klikni zde!</a></body>
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Roger,

Sri,no copy last evening.
Only G4JNT (1055km) and G0NBD (1245km) .
I didn't see even a faint trace on my Perseus SDR.
>From my experience I know that I can decode WSPR sigs
even if they are very weakly visible on Perseus
but what I can't see I can't decode.
I believe at least ~10dB more are necessary to reach central Europe.

73
Clemens
DL4RAJ
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Roger Lapthorn
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 7:34 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz G4NT WSPR beaconing


  Let us hope you manage to hear my signal too later in the evening Clemens.

  73s
  Roger G3XBM


  2009/10/25 Clemens Paul <cpaul@gmx.net>

           2009-10-25 18:00   G4JNT   0.503850   +12   0   IO90iv   0.2   DL4RAJ   JN68kj   1055 
100


    This evening looks promising.

    73
    Clemens
    DL4RAJ



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73<BR>Clemens<BR>DL4RAJ</FONT></DIV>
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Dear LF Group,

I have just uploaded "RX_Soundcard_cal_v1.pdf" to the files page at the 
UK500kHz group web site (go to 
http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/files - it is down at the bottom of 
the list). This describes a way of calibrating receiver frequency and sound 
card sampling rate using an off-air standard frequency such as MSF or 198kHz 
R4, without requiring an accurate audio frequency to calibrate the sound 
card. This is addressed primarily to WOLF mode transmission and reception, 
where this calibration has to be done fairly accurately in order for the 
mode to work properly, but could also be generally useful where sound card 
sample rate calibration has to be done, and there is no precision audio 
frequency source available in the shack.

Any comments would be welcome,

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 



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Graham,

I would expect a -6dB drop, not -3dB.
Average power of the tx will be halfed,therefore current drop to 0,7x,
pep power per signal wil be one fourth.
Remember the two tone test of a ssb tx.

73
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Graham
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:14 AM
  Subject: >>> PSK31 ADDED LF: Throb -2- on 503.000 AND PSK31 503.300 <<<<<<<<


  Added  PSK31  on  503.300  , will be a  -3 dB  drop in peak level when in simultaneous  TX due 
to  tx alc action

  503.000    throb -2-
  503.300    PSK31

      Tnx - G ..


  From: Graham
  Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 10:13 PM
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: Re: LF: Throb -2- Beacon running on 503.000 center frequency


  Thank you  for the  report Gerhard

  Be interested as to your  comments on the  decode , compared to the  psk qso
  as it looks like the  condx are worse ?

  What is the  peak signal level ?

  tnx - G



  From: Graham
  Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 6:52 PM
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: LF: Throb -2- Beacon running on 503.000 center frequency


  Throb 2 beacon on 503.000

  running  :  fldigi , throb mode -2- center  frequency  503.000 Khz

  TX  set USB , Rx 'on during  60 second tx pause ,

  Interested to  see  how the  mode prints / recovers  in the  noise / qsb

  Reports welcome ,

  Tnx - Graham
  G0NBD




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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Graham,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I would expect a -6dB drop, not -3dB.=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Average power of the tx will be halfe=
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current drop to 0,7x,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>pep power per signal wil be one=20
fourth.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Remember the two tone test of a ssb=
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tx.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73<BR>Clemens<BR>DL4RAJ</FONT></DIV>
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net.co.uk">Graham</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@=
blacksheep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_l=
f_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 08,=
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> &gt;&gt;&gt; PSK31=
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Added&nbsp; PSK31&nbsp; on&nbsp; 50=
3.300&nbsp; ,=20
  will be a&nbsp; -3 dB&nbsp; drop in peak level when in simultaneous&=
nbsp; TX=20
  due to&nbsp; tx alc action </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>503.000&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;thro=
b=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>503.300&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;PSK3=
1=20
</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tnx - G ..=
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  <DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dg8fzk@g8fzk=
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  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org     href=3D"=
mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=
=20
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  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Throb -2- Beacon running on 503.000 cen=
ter=20
  frequency</DIV></DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thank you&nbsp; for the&nbsp; repor=
t Gerhard=20
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Be interested as to your&nbsp; comm=
ents on=20
  the&nbsp; decode , compared to the&nbsp; psk qso </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>as it looks like the&nbsp; condx ar=
e worse ?=20
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What is the&nbsp; peak signal level=
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?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>tnx - G </FONT></DIV>
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mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=
=20
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  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: Throb -2- Beacon running on 503.000 center=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Throb 2 beacon on 503.000&nbsp; </F=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>running&nbsp; :&nbsp; </FONT><FONT=
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ncy&nbsp; 503.000 Khz=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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sp; 60 second=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Interested to&nbsp; see&nbsp; how=
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Normally  by radio as well  ..or perhaps a local  wireless lan  these days ?

 




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>10dB over QRN/LX at 1429z.
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>F5VLF

John,

thanks for rpt - where are you located?
IK1HSS is in JN35tb

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Dear Gary, LF Group,

This is what the signal looks like for about 11/2 hours up to 2200utc. The 
red signal is G4WGT, the yellow one is G4JNT's WSPR beacon. The blue line is 
the noise level scaled to about 300Hz bandwidth, to give an idea of the 
audible strength as a CW signal. The plot settings are not ideal to show 
variations in signal level - there are actually short periods where the 
signal fades to inaudibility that don't show up here, but it gives a 
reasonable idea.

G4WGT I think must be mainly sky wave here so presumably the fading is due 
to  different sky-wave paths.  G4JNT is a very stable ground wave signal 
here during the day, so I imagine the fading here is due to the combination 
of ground wave and sky wave.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 

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hi John and Gary...
thanks for the gud control...good evening
Claude F8boj JN16WA
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> At 1625z approx.
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Hi John ,

Yes it is Henny PA3CPM in beaconning !

73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

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Hi LF,
Capture HF70W
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi LF,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Capture HF70W</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het 
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Hello Rick,
thanks for info and correction! Of course, you are right with 5 mW !!!=
!!
So MF is guarantying a lot of very interesting observations -really a=
 magic
band beside 6 Meter (hi).
Vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI

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-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Rik Strobbe
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 22. Oktober 2009 23:13
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Quoting "Beckmann, Gerhard" <beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de>:

> I am often monitoring WSPR signals and yesterday I decoded OR7T with=
 =20
>  50 mW ERP!

Gerhard,

it was 5mW ERP (0.005) :

2009-10-21 21:24   OR7T   0.503889   -10   0   JO20ix   0.005   DK6NI=
  =20
  JN59ln   471   107

Based on the -10dB SNR it should have worked even with 17dB less ERP,=
 =20
what would be 0.1mW.

My 5mW transmissions were copied by 10 stations up to 878km.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T




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So you couldn't dig my QRPp out of the noise then?  

 

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Chris
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Subject: LF: 500 CW

 

I also listened to CW QSOs between G3LDO, G3XIV and EI0CF on the evening of
29th. September 2009, all excellent signals, 100% copy. Great! Recorded it
to listen again when bored with lack of CW activity!! - Sad?

73s all,

Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, (JO01MI).


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Ok Graham thanks for the info.
=A0
If it was on the same frquency that was probably Dennis and me. We've been=
 on for abt an hour ...hee. Well I can only conclude it is ADSL because it=
 is just raising the noise floor it is=A0very subtle not really identifiab=
le like say TV LTB, it's a mush. Frame ants help a bit but not as sensitiv=
e at the LW by a mile. I use everything SDR software to niose blank and is=
 filtering down to 200hz=A0and Xtal filters on my Kenwood TS690s which has=
 all the filters.=A0=A0Its very depressing. I took my DC rx around to Chri=
s XIZ abt 6miles away and=A0I could hear you on RTTY the other day a smash=
ing signal. I have a similar ant set up I have a higher ASL and I am in op=
en fields about 1/2=A0to a mile from the rest of humanity=A0but still have=
 noise....dohh!!!
=A0
Any way gl Graham and thanks for the reports. Things will be picking up no=
w with the season change=A0so hope to hear you for a twoway on 500kc/s soo=
n.
=A0
73 petefmt
=A0
--- On Mon, 12/10/09, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:


From: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Subject: Re: LF: MOFMT
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Monday, 12 October, 2009, 3:36 PM



Ok Peter=20
=A0
Should of given you a cal=A0then but was using the=A0 ft897=A0 at the=A0=
 time , with no=A0 tx on 500 , good signal at the time , odd=A0 for mid=A0=
 day ? some=A0 cw on at the moment 1530 bst , but=A0 quite=A0 low .. may=
 be the same tx ... noise level on the=A0 rx is showing s8 to=A0 s9 all da=
y .... across the=A0 full band, interestingly=A0 the=A0 dsp noise reductio=
n in the ft897=20
actually=A0 helps ..=A0 must be the=A0 right kind of noise ...
=A0
As for the=A0 rx .. well in a direct test , swopping from the=A0 ft897 and=
 the=A0 ra1778m , the=A0 ft897=A0was =A0giving a better=A0 recovery of the=
=A0 signal .. which is a bit disconcerting .. may be the=A0 wrong type of=
 noise for the 1778 xtal filters (1.4 mhz and do tend to=A0 ring a bit if=
 =A0pinged) , but iv'e had a few replies lately=A0 where I could not=A0 re=
solve the=A0 other station, I think mainly=A0 due to=A0 the=A0 high level=
 of=A0 noise a the=A0 qth=20
=A0
73 Graham=20
=A0
=A0




From: M0FMT=20
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 3:08 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: Re: LF: MOFMT






Thanks Graham
=A0
Not a beacon but a call, computer generated. Locally we try to have a qso=
 weekdays at around 11:45 or at some time over the lunch hour and again la=
ter around 4:00 it=A0is a very loose sched with M0JXM Dennis and rarely M0=
KHW.Ken. =A0Rog GW3UEP listens some times whch is remarkable=A0and reports=
 by e-mail=A0because I can't hear him its my RX or location (adsl noise?)=
 that is poor but=A0we should be reciprical.
=A0
FYI the current rig is an xtal controlled=A0GW3UEP (ala UK500kHZ group) th=
is week run off a laptop PSU very approx 35 watts output to a lw up 12m -=
 40m lng. Tnx fer rprt, meanwhile back to the RX with a big hammer.
=A0
73 petefmt


--- On Mon, 12/10/09, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:


From: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Subject: LF: MOFMT
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Monday, 12 October, 2009, 12:34 PM



M0FMT ,Good=A0=A0 569 from the=A0 35=A0 ft=A0 vertical (with atu=A0) ft897=
-d speaker at 1200=A0 bst to=A0 day , normal speed=A0 cw , beacon or=A0 li=
ve cq call =A0?=20
=A0
Graham
=A0
G0NBD=A0 /. io83lk





No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20
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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D=
"top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV>Ok Graham thanks for the info.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>If it was on the same frquency that was probably Dennis and me. We've=
 been on for abt an hour ...hee. Well I can only conclude it is ADSL becau=
se it is just raising the noise floor it is&nbsp;very subtle not really id=
entifiable like say TV LTB, it's a mush. Frame ants help a bit but not as=
 sensitive at the LW by a mile. I use everything SDR software to niose bla=
nk and is filtering down to 200hz&nbsp;and Xtal filters on my Kenwood TS69=
0s which has all the filters.&nbsp;&nbsp;Its very depressing. I took my DC=
 rx around to Chris XIZ abt 6miles away and&nbsp;I could hear you on RTTY=
 the other day a smashing signal. I have a similar ant set up I have a hig=
her ASL and I am in open fields about 1/2&nbsp;to a mile from the rest of=
 humanity&nbsp;but still have noise....dohh!!!</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Any way gl Graham and thanks for the reports. Things will be picking=
 up now with the season change&nbsp;so hope to hear you for a twoway on 50=
0kc/s soon.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73 petefmt</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>--- On <B>Mon, 12/10/09, Graham <I>&lt;g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk&gt;</I=
></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT:=
 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Graham &lt;g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk&gt;<B=
R>Subject: Re: LF: MOFMT<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Date: Mond=
ay, 12 October, 2009, 3:36 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV id=3Dyiv882326036>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Ok Peter </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Should of given you a cal&nbsp;then but=
 was using the&nbsp; ft897&nbsp; at the&nbsp; time , with no&nbsp; tx on=
 500 , good signal at the time , odd&nbsp; for mid&nbsp; day ? some&nbsp;=
 cw on at the moment 1530 bst , but&nbsp; quite&nbsp; low .. may be the sa=
me tx ... noise level on the&nbsp; rx is showing s8 to&nbsp; s9 all day ..=
.. across the&nbsp; full band, interestingly&nbsp; the&nbsp; dsp noise red=
uction in the ft897 </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>actually&nbsp; helps ..&nbsp; must be the=
&nbsp; right kind of noise ...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>As for the&nbsp; rx .. well in a direct=
 test , swopping from the&nbsp; ft897 and the&nbsp; ra1778m , the&nbsp; ft=
897&nbsp;was &nbsp;giving a better&nbsp; recovery of the&nbsp; signal ..=
 which is a bit disconcerting .. may be the&nbsp; wrong type of noise for=
 the 1778 xtal filters (1.4 mhz and do tend to&nbsp; ring a bit if &nbsp;p=
inged) , but iv'e had a few replies lately&nbsp; where I could not&nbsp;=
 resolve the&nbsp; other station, I think mainly&nbsp; due to&nbsp; the&nb=
sp; high level of&nbsp; noise a the&nbsp; qth </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73 Graham </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT=
><BR></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=3D"mailto:m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk&#10;CTRL + Click to=
 follow link" href=3D"http://uk.mc281.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dm0fmt=
@yahoo.co.uk" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank ymailto=3D"mailto:m0fmt@yahoo=
.co.uk">M0FMT</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 12, 2009 3:08 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org href=3D"http://uk.=
mc281.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" rel=3Dn=
ofollow target=3D_blank ymailto=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rs=
gb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: MOFMT</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<TABLE border=3D0 cellSpacing=3D0 cellPadding=3D0>
<TBODY>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=3Dtop>
<DIV>Thanks Graham</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Not a beacon but a call, computer generated. Locally we try to have=
 a qso weekdays at around 11:45 or at some time over the lunch hour and ag=
ain later around 4:00 it&nbsp;is a very loose sched with M0JXM Dennis and=
 rarely M0KHW.Ken. &nbsp;Rog GW3UEP listens some times whch is remarkable&=
nbsp;and reports by e-mail&nbsp;because I can't hear him its my RX or loca=
tion (adsl noise?) that is poor but&nbsp;we should be reciprical.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>FYI the current rig is an xtal controlled&nbsp;GW3UEP (ala UK500kHZ=
 group) this week run off a laptop PSU very approx 35 watts output to a lw=
 up 12m - 40m lng. Tnx fer rprt, meanwhile back to the RX with a big hamme=
r.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73 petefmt<BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 12/10/09, Graham <I>&lt;g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk&gt=
;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT:=
 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Graham &lt;g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk&gt;<B=
R>Subject: LF: MOFMT<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Date: Monday,=
 12 October, 2009, 12:34 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV id=3Dyiv363705495>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>M0FMT ,Good&nbsp;&nbsp; 569 from the&nbsp=
; 35&nbsp; ft&nbsp; vertical (with atu&nbsp;) ft897-d speaker at 1200&nbsp=
; bst to&nbsp; day , normal speed&nbsp; cw , beacon or&nbsp; live cq call=
 &nbsp;? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Graham</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G0NBD&nbsp; /. io83lk</FONT></DIV></DIV><=
/BLOCKQUOTE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR>
<DIV>
<HR>

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G'day All,

I had a look at the RW3ADB grabber and I see exactly the same characteristic 
signal here in VK-land on 499,993 Hz.    Can't think what it might be.

Sometimes it looks like one or two second dots and sometimes it looks 
continuous.

Attached are two comparisons.

Any clues ?

73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV) 

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* John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> [Sat, 17 Oct 2009 19:27:01 
+0000]:
> Roger Lapthorn wrote:
> > Just seen Rik's decode and now this!!!!!
> >
> >  2009-10-17 19:14  G3XBM  0.503936  -26  0  JO02dg  0.001  GM4SLV
> IP90gg
> >  896  354
> > This is staggering!!!
> >
>
> And not a fluke:
>
Hi LF!
How many 'W' from G4WGT WSPR?

Roman


> 1924 -26  2.9   0.503936 -1 G3XBM JO02 0
>
> A second decode!
>
> Nice.... :-)
>
> John
> GM4SLV
>
>




--
Roman RW3ADB.


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2009/10/15 henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>:
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> Capture XGJ,
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> best 73s


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Hi Roger you will find that the late Reg Edwards programs GRNDWAV3 (I think)
gives a very good idea of ground wave strengths. I do have an article here
(somewhere) from Jack Belrose with I believe some skywave strength formula
in it. (I am "between two PCs" at the moment :-)) and it is undoubtedly on
the other one ) Generally at LF the skywave starts to equal or exceed the
groundwave strength at ranges exceeding 700km. It may be a little less that
that at 500k. It also depends a little on the receive-system senitivity to a
given mode, which is why very low power stations sometimes experience a
"quiet zone" at least to audible reception.

Alan G3NYK





----- Original Message -----
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> Can someone please point me to any CCIR or similar graphs (preferably on
the
> internet) showing the attenuation with distance expected on groundwave and
> skywave at 500kHz?
>
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM
>
> --
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
> http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
> G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088
>



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Sorry Gents:

I forgot about the time difference. I can look for signals from
19:00 UTC. It is just getting dark this time. Can watch overnight
if anyone beacons overnight. Will look Tuesday, 10-20-2009 if 
anyone would like. I am around 500 Km inland, and TA signals are
a challenge for me. Let me know if you will be transmitting so I
can look at your frequency.

73 agn :::

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 185.29893 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr





      


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Ok Peter=20

Should of given you a cal then but was using the  ft897  at the  time=
 , with no  tx on 500 , good signal at the time , odd  for mid  day ?=
 some  cw on at the moment 1530 bst , but  quite  low .. may be the sa=
me tx ... noise level on the  rx is showing s8 to  s9 all day .... acr=
oss the  full band, interestingly  the  dsp noise reduction in the ft8=
97=20
actually  helps ..  must be the  right kind of noise ...

As for the  rx .. well in a direct test , swopping from the  ft897 and=
 the  ra1778m , the  ft897 was  giving a better  recovery of the  sign=
al .. which is a bit disconcerting .. may be the  wrong type of noise=
 for the 1778 xtal filters (1.4 mhz and do tend to  ring a bit if  pin=
ged) , but iv'e had a few replies lately  where I could not  resolve=
 the  other station, I think mainly  due to  the  high level of  noise=
 a the  qth=20

73 Graham=20




From: M0FMT=20
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 3:08 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: Re: LF: MOFMT


      Thanks Graham

      Not a beacon but a call, computer generated. Locally we try to=
 have a qso weekdays at around 11:45 or at some time over the lunch ho=
ur and again later around 4:00 it is a very loose sched with M0JXM Den=
nis and rarely M0KHW.Ken.  Rog GW3UEP listens some times whch is remar=
kable and reports by e-mail because I can't hear him its my RX or loca=
tion (adsl noise?) that is poor but we should be reciprical.

      FYI the current rig is an xtal controlled GW3UEP (ala UK500kHZ=
 group) this week run off a laptop PSU very approx 35 watts output to=
 a lw up 12m - 40m lng. Tnx fer rprt, meanwhile back to the RX with a=
 big hammer.

      73 petefmt


      --- On Mon, 12/10/09, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:


        From: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
        Subject: LF: MOFMT
        To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
        Date: Monday, 12 October, 2009, 12:34 PM


        M0FMT ,Good   569 from the  35  ft  vertical (with atu ) ft897=
-d speaker at 1200  bst to  day , normal speed  cw , beacon or  live=
 cq call  ?=20

        Graham

        G0NBD  /. io83lk=20




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right kind of noise ...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>As for the&nbsp; rx .. well in a dire=
ct test ,=20
swopping from the&nbsp; ft897 and the&nbsp; ra1778m , the&nbsp; ft897&=
nbsp;was=20
&nbsp;giving a better&nbsp; recovery of the&nbsp; signal .. which is=
 a bit=20
disconcerting .. may be the&nbsp; wrong type of noise for the 1778 xta=
l filters=20
(1.4 mhz and do tend to&nbsp; ring a bit if &nbsp;pinged) , but iv'e=
 had a few=20
replies lately&nbsp; where I could not&nbsp; resolve the&nbsp; other=
 station, I=20
think mainly&nbsp; due to&nbsp; the&nbsp; high level of&nbsp; noise a=
 the&nbsp;=20
qth </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73 Graham </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></=
FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:m0f=
mt@yahoo.co.uk&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailto:m0fmt=
@yahoo.co.uk">M0FMT</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 12, 2009 3:08 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mail=
to:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: MOFMT</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<TABLE border=3D0 cellSpacing=3D0 cellPadding=3D0>
  <TBODY>
  <TR>
    <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
      <DIV>Thanks Graham</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>Not a beacon but a call, computer generated. Locally we try=
 to have a=20
      qso weekdays at around 11:45 or at some time over the lunch hour=
 and again=20
      later around 4:00 it&nbsp;is a very loose sched with M0JXM Denni=
s and=20
      rarely M0KHW.Ken. &nbsp;Rog GW3UEP listens some times whch is=20
      remarkable&nbsp;and reports by e-mail&nbsp;because I can't hear=
 him its my=20
      RX or location (adsl noise?) that is poor but&nbsp;we should be=
=20
      reciprical.</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>FYI the current rig is an xtal controlled&nbsp;GW3UEP (ala=
 UK500kHZ=20
      group) this week run off a laptop PSU very approx 35 watts outpu=
t to a lw=20
      up 12m - 40m lng. Tnx fer rprt, meanwhile back to the RX with a=
 big=20
      hammer.</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>73 petefmt<BR></DIV>
      <DIV><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 12/10/09, Graham=20
      <I>&lt;g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
      <BLOCKQUOTE         style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px sol=
id; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From:=20
        Graham &lt;g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk&gt;<BR>Subject: LF: MOFMT<B=
R>To:=20
        rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Date: Monday, 12 October, 2009=
, 12:34=20
        PM<BR><BR>
        <DIV id=3Dyiv363705495>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>M0FMT ,Good&nbsp;&nbsp; 569=
 from the&nbsp;=20
        35&nbsp; ft&nbsp; vertical (with atu&nbsp;) ft897-d speaker at=
=20
        1200&nbsp; bst to&nbsp; day , normal speed&nbsp; cw , beacon=
 or&nbsp;=20
        live cq call &nbsp;? </FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Graham</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G0NBD&nbsp; /.=20
      io83lk</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>=
<BR>
<P>
<HR>

<P></P><BR>No virus found in this incoming message.<BR>Checked by AVG=
 -=20
www.avg.com <BR>Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.11/2430 - Re=
lease=20
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Thanks for the signal!  Will be watching and listening.

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To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
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> Hi Jay,
> I will be sending a beacon signal QRSS3 on 501.1kHz until 2330z.
> I have modified my old PL519 TV sweep tube transmitter which ran about 60 
> to 70W. It now has two PL519s in parallel running 120W.
> I have taken down the HF quad until the sunspots wake up a bit and 
> reinstalled the antenna used for 73/136kHz so I am now running close to 
> the new ERP limit.
>
>
> Peter, G3LDO
>
>
>> Mal
>>
>> I check your frequency. Sunset here isn't until 2230Z...what time do you 
>> QRT?
>>
>> How about a beacon signal? ;~)
>>
>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 11:34 AM
>> Subject: LF: Re: Propagation report
>>
>>
>>> Warren
>>> Great propagation around EU and Russia at present on 500. I have been 
>>> copied in Russia and eastern EU while daylight here, also 160m is good 
>>> with daytime reception and QSO'S as far as the Moscow area
>>> Probably good to the west but not sure if anyone is monitoring in the 
>>> USA during evening time here.
>>> 73 de mal/g3kev
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
>>> To: "rsgb_lf_group" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 4:18 PM
>>> Subject: LF: Propagation report
>>>
>>>
>>>> I have noted that Alan Melia has not updated his propagation  report
>>>> since the 7th of July!
>>>> Hope all is well with Alan!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> 73 Warren K2ORS
>>>>                WD2XGJ
>>>>                WD2XSH/23
>>>>                WE2XEB/2
>>>>                WE2XGR/1
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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Nice activity this morning,thanx Claude,i hope to see you soon.
Good LF DX with the russian's grabbers my friend.
 
73 de F4DTL  Nicolas

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Hi Paul-Henrik,


> Hello LF

> 501.4kHz, 20091030 2100UTC:

> Just receiving SM6BGP in JO67IK. Seems to be in becaon mode CW +
> QRSS.

> Good signal on 1 x 1 metre square loop with homemade 2 x 2N5109 loop
> amplifier.

> New callsign for me on this band, good luck with the operation.

SM6BGP is also making it to my QTH JN49bf at 2121 UTC.
Receiving him on Perseus and mini-whip.

Screenshot attached.


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vy 73 + gd DX,

Michael


RX: ICOM R75, SDR-IQ, Perseus
Antenna: Wellbrook ALA 1530, Mini-Whip
Location: Roschbach, Germany N 49=B015' E 8=B007' / Locator JN49BF

ENDBH & NANDBH editor

http://ndbchangeblog.blogspot.com
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Hello Andrey , Warren ,
Very strong signal last night Warren !
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Andrey rn3agc a =E9crit :
> Hello Warren,
> capture at ~02.01z
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Vernon,

wsprnet.org is showing spots from you on 506.5kHz
UK (and Belgian) stations cannot transmit above 504kHz
Could you tune to 502.4kHz (USB)

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

  2009-10-29 20:54   SM6BHZ   0.506589   -23   0   JO57wq   1   VE1VDM  
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Jean-Pierre,

Thanks for the report.

I was watching the F1AFJ and DF6NM grabbers tonight in the 0100-0200 UTC 
period. There was an interesting signal that swept through both 
screens... certainly not a local QRP event to appear at both locations. See:

http://www.w1tag.com/files/F1AFJ.jpg
http://www.w1tag.com/files/DF6NM.jpg

John, W1TAG

Jean-Pierre Méré (F1AFJ) wrote:
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> 
> I copy your beacon last night (00:00>01:30utc)
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On 25 Oct 2009 at 19:54, F4DTL@aol.com wrote:

> 
> 
> Hello Dave and LF group,How and has who to ask for the RSGB LF  award ?
> 
> 73 de F4DTL  Nicolas
> 
You contact G3LZQ via the details at the first link I gave......

73 Dave G3YMC

> 
> >  See http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/hf/hfawards/ and the page on
> >  the  
> > award itself at 
> >  http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/hf/hfawards/136khz.php
> > 
> > I am  the proud owner of certificate 7 which I received in 2002. I see
> > 
> >  there have not been many issued since...
> > 
> > 73 Dave  G3YMC
> 
> 
> 


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At 1500z.

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Mni Mni Thanks
Vy Vy useful info.
                           EA2HB  Federico
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> How about that?
> http://www.waniewski.de/id414.htm
>
> HTH
> 73
> Clemens
> DL4RAJ
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dexter McIntyre W4DEX" <dmcintyre@att.net>
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> >I have a 1936 edition of Electrical Engineers Handbook by Pender -
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> > which show a diagram of a 1030 foot antenna in Budapest used on 545 kc.
So far
> > I have found no history on this antenna.  Anyone have any info on this
station
> > and antenna's history?
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> > Dex
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Hello Graham,

 

now first "lines of code"  (hi).

Condx seem to increase now (hopefully.)

 

THE 1UICK BROWN FOX JUMP7D OVER EHE LAZEY M63NA91K247.6788 G0NBD TESTING

 

Best 73 de Gerhard  //  DK6NI

 

============================= 

  _____  

Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Oktober 2009 18:28
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Betreff: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000 

 

Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency 

 

TX set  502.000 USB

Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency 

 

Repeat time 60  seconds  

 

RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'  time 

 

Reports / observations   

 

Tnx  Graham

 

G0NBD - IO83LK  

 


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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Dienstag, 27.=
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> LF: Throb -2-=
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ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Running&nbsp; THROB-2-&nbsp; Beacon&nbs=
p;&nbsp; 503.000 khz
centre&nbsp; frequency </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Audio&nbsp; 1000 Hz cent frequency </sp=
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f' &nbsp;time </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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Dear Graham,
    at first thanks for the first short description. Found the "packet=
s" on the grabber. What does the abbreviation "Throb" mean and where=
 can one find a description?
73   Walter DJ2LF / DI2AG

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Graham=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 7:54 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: Re: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


  Ok Walter=20
  =20
  Well that is a good  question ! ...=20
  =20
  Its a  narrow  band  data  mode that  uses a combination of   multi=
  tones and  amplitude modulation .. the  tones relay the  data  and=
 the  amplitude modulation  provides the  syn-pulse .. so  every chara=
cter   has its ''own sync pulse''  so the  system has no  'lock up or=
  sync time'' =20
  =20
  I am using  FLDIGI  as the  tx software .........  you  need to be=
 very  close on frequency to decode=20
  =20
  Tnx - G ..


  From: Walter und Marianne Staubach=20
  Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:34 PM
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Subject: LF: Re: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


  Please help, Graham - what is THROB-2?
  73
  Walter DJ2LF / DI2AG

    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Graham=20
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
    Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:28 PM
    Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


    Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency=20
    =20
    TX set  502.000 USB
    Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency=20
    =20
    Repeat time 60  seconds =20
    =20
    RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'  time=20
    =20
    Reports / observations  =20

    Tnx  Graham

    G0NBD - IO83LK =20





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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear Graham,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; at first thanks fo=
r the first=20
short description. Found the "packets" on the grabber. What does the=
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abbreviation "Throb" mean and where can one find a description?</FONT>=
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x; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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 black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk"     title=3Dg8fzk@g8fzk.f=
snet.co.uk>Graham</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A     href=3D"mailto:rsg=
b_lf_group@blacksheep.org"     title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>rs=
gb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 27, 20=
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  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Re: Throb -2=
- beacon=20
  503.000 </DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ok Walter </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well that is a good&nbsp; question=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Its a&nbsp; narrow&nbsp; band&nbsp;=
 data&nbsp;=20
  mode that&nbsp; uses a combination of&nbsp;&nbsp; multi&nbsp; tones=
 and&nbsp;=20
  amplitude modulation .. the&nbsp; tones relay the&nbsp; data&nbsp;=
 and=20
  the&nbsp; amplitude modulation&nbsp; provides the&nbsp; syn-pulse ..=
 so&nbsp;=20
  every character&nbsp;&nbsp; has its ''own sync pulse''&nbsp; so the&=
nbsp;=20
  system has no&nbsp; 'lock up or&nbsp; sync time''&nbsp; </FONT></DIV=
>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am using&nbsp; FLDIGI&nbsp; as th=
e&nbsp; tx=20
  software .........&nbsp; you&nbsp; need to be very&nbsp; close on fr=
equency to=20
  decode </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tnx - G ..</FONT></DIV>
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wum.staubach@t-online.de" title=3Dwum.staubach@t-online.de>Walter=20
  und Marianne Staubach</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:34 PM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org"   =
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> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: Throb -2- beacon 503.000 </DIV></DIV></=
DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Please help, Graham - what is=20
  THROB-2?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Walter DJ2LF / DI2AG</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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lor: black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk"       title=3Dg8fzk@g8f=
zk.fsnet.co.uk>Graham</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A       href=3D"mailto=
:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org"       title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.=
org>rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 27,=
 2009 6:28=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Throb -2- beac=
on 503.000=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Running&nbsp; THROB-2-&nbsp; Beac=
on&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    503.000 khz centre&nbsp; frequency </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>TX set&nbsp; 502.000 USB</FONT></=
DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Audio&nbsp; 1000 Hz cent frequenc=
y=20
</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Repeat time 60&nbsp; seconds&nbsp=
;=20
</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RX&nbsp; 'ON'&nbsp; during cycle=
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    &nbsp;time </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Reports / observations&nbsp;&nbsp=
;=20
</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tnx&nbsp; Graham</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>G0NBD - IO83LK=20
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This is a local copy  of the signal off air ::  >>  http://myweb.tisca=
li.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html


From: Graham=20
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:28 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency=20

TX set  502.000 USB
Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency=20

Repeat time 60  seconds =20

RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'  time=20

Reports / observations  =20

Tnx  Graham

G0NBD - IO83LK =20





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No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>This is a local copy&nbsp; of the sig=
nal off air=20
::&nbsp; &gt;&gt;&nbsp; </FONT><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><A   title=
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<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:g8f=
zk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailto=
:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:28 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&#10;=
CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=
.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000 </DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; THROB-2-&nbsp; Beacon&n=
bsp;&nbsp;=20
503.000 khz centre&nbsp; frequency </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>TX set&nbsp; 502.000 USB</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Audio&nbsp; 1000 Hz cent frequency </=
FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Repeat time 60&nbsp; seconds&nbsp; </=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>RX&nbsp; 'ON'&nbsp; during cycle tx=
 'off'=20
&nbsp;time </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Reports / observations&nbsp;&nbsp; </=
FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx&nbsp; Graham</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G0NBD - IO83LK </FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><BR=
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Hi Steve, Dave,



as far as I know, the=C2=A0PAL colour subcarrier=C2=A0is supposed=C2=A0to=
 be locked to the line and field rates, but with an intentional offset fro=
m an integer 25 Hz multiple to provide some "blurring" of possible moiree=
 effects.=C2=A0Ideally, the line frequency should be accurately on 15625=
 Hz.=C2=A0The German ZDF timebase=C2=A0used to be=C2=A0derived from the PT=
B atomic clocks in Braunschweig and could be traced to UTC, but nowadays=
 analog terrestrial TV transmitters have pretty much disappeared here.



Best regards,

Markus, DF6NM



-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20
Von: VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra.com>
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Verschickt: Di., 6. Okt. 2009, 13:24
Thema: LF: Re: Re: What is on 499.993 kcs ?



G'day Dave,=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Yes - I did that calculation but came up with 500002.81 Hz - not 499993 Hz=
.=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Still - that seems the most likely explanation as it is very stable.=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Thanks.=C2=A0
=C2=A0
73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)=C2=A0
=C2=A0
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com>=
=C2=A0
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>=C2=A0
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 9:34 PM=C2=A0
Subject: LF: Re: What is on 499.993 kcs ?=C2=A0
=C2=A0
> > Or more likely the 32nd harmonic of the 15.625kHz TV line ocillator >=
 rate. UK, UA and VK all use the 625 line PAL standard (though parts of >=
 USSR are Secam). The line rate is actually locked to the colour > subcarr=
ier of 4.43361875 MHz which may account for the 7Hz shift at > 500kHz.=C2=
=A0
> > 73 Dave G3YMC0
> > http://www.davesergeant.com=C2=A0
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<div>Hi Steve, Dave,</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>as far as I know, the&nbsp;PAL colour subcarrier&nbsp;is supposed&nbs=
p;to be locked to the line and field rates, but with an intentional offset=
 from an integer 25 Hz multiple to provide some "blurring" of possible moi=
ree effects.&nbsp;Ideally, the line frequency should be accurately on 1562=
5 Hz.&nbsp;The German ZDF timebase&nbsp;used to be&nbsp;derived from the=
 PTB atomic clocks in Braunschweig and could be traced to UTC, but nowaday=
s analog terrestrial TV transmitters have pretty much disappeared here.</d=
iv>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>Best regards,</div>


<div>Markus, DF6NM</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung----- <br>
Von: VK2ZTO &lt;vk2zto@djirra.com&gt;<br>
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>
Verschickt: Di., 6. Okt. 2009, 13:24<br>
Thema: LF: Re: Re: What is on 499.993 kcs ?<br>
<br>
</div>


<div id=3DAOLMsgPart_0_d1ee0afe-13e8-4d89-a120-5cd4fb193a2c style=3D"FONT-=
SIZE: 12px; MARGIN: 0px; COLOR: #000; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial,=
 Sans-Serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff">G'day Dave,&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Yes - I did that calculation but came up with 500002.81 Hz - not 499993 Hz=
.&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Still - that seems the most likely explanation as it is very stable.&nbsp;=
<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Thanks.&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Sergeant" &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:d=
ave@davesergeant.com">dave@davesergeant.com</A>&gt;&nbsp;<br>
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Sent: Tuesday,=20
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Subject: LF: Re: What is on 499.993 kcs ?&nbsp;<br>
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&gt; &gt; Or more likely the 32nd harmonic of the 15.625kHz TV line ocilla=
tor &gt; rate. UK, UA and VK all use the 625 line PAL standard (though par=
ts of &gt; USSR are Secam). The line rate is actually locked to the colour=
 &gt; subcarrier of 4.43361875 MHz which may account for the 7Hz shift at=
 &gt; 500kHz.&nbsp;<br>
&gt; &gt; 73 Dave G3YMC&nbsp;<br>
&gt; &gt; <A href=3D"http://www.davesergeant.com/" target=3D_blank>http://=
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On 18/10/2009 at 17:02 Marco IK1ODO wrote:

>At 16.32 18/10/2009, you wrote:
>>10dB over QRN/LX at 1429z.
>>
>>F5VLF
>
>John,
>
>thanks for rpt - where are you located?
>IK1HSS is in JN35tb
>
>Marco IK1ODO for IK1HSS

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There is the next good signal on 137.740kHz >> F8BOJ.

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There is the next good signal on 137.740kHz &gt;&gt; F8BOJ.<br><br>Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS <br>                       <br /><hr />Pøedveïte svùj styl pomocí zobrazení obrázkù v Messenger. Prohlédnìte si je v¹echny. <a href='http://download.live.com/messenger' target='_new'>Klikni zde!</a></body>
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Doing my sums, I've calculated my ERP now to be somewhere around *1mW*.

This is based on an antenna current of around 100mA and an effective height
of around 5m. Certainly comparing reports being given by stations at similar
distances to me would suggest this is not far off. The recent PA change
increased the ERP by 10dB and the antenna matching may have added a little
more.

Certainly judging by WSPR reports I am now getting, the higher ERP is
expanding my "range of influence" quite significantly on 500kHz with reports
now from 12 different stations in 4 countries so far. All this is still
without ANY change to my antenna, which remains the 6m long feeder to my
28MHz halo with coax inner/outer strapped and the halo "up top" as a top
capacity hat.

This continues to be such fun.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088

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Doing my sums, I&#39;ve calculated my ERP now to be somewhere around <b>1m=
W</b>. <br><br>This is based on an antenna current of around 100mA and an=
 effective height of around 5m. Certainly comparing reports being given by=
 stations at similar distances to me would suggest this is not far off. Th=
e recent PA change increased the ERP by 10dB and the antenna matching may=
 have added a little more. <br>
<br>Certainly judging by WSPR reports I am now getting, the higher ERP is=
 expanding my &quot;range of influence&quot; quite significantly on 500kHz=
 with reports now from 12 different stations in 4 countries so far. All th=
is is still without ANY change to my antenna, which remains the 6m long fe=
eder to my 28MHz halo with coax inner/outer strapped and the halo &quot;up=
 top&quot; as a top capacity hat.<br>
<br>This continues to be such fun.<br><br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br><br>------=
-------------------------------------------------------<br><a href=3D"http=
://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=
=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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Roger Lapthorn wrote:
> My QRP beacon is running this evening. Reports welcomed.
> 

Roger

I'm watching!

I see from your blog that your best WSPR DX on 160m is only 659km!

Do you fancy upping that to 896km one evening?

Cheers,

John
GM4SLV


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Hi Warren,LF
Capture XGJ,
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Warren,LF</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het 
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Hello J-P,LF
Nice capture AFJ,
Henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
afj 25-10.jpg

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello J-P,LF</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Nice capture AFJ,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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Hi Henny ,
TNX
73 J-P afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
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> Henny pa3cpm
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> AFJ WPF 04-10.jpg
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Mal,
Your signal here is almost in the centre of a spectrum of powerful broadband SVC-station.
It is a pity that you do not have possibility to replace frequency...

73 Andrey


> Andrey can see my sig solid copy on ur GRABBER
> TNX MAL
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:36 PM
> Subject: LF: Re: Re: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz
> 
> 
>> Hi Mal,
>> I have already switched on the grabber on your frequency.
>> The grabber will work on 500 khz to ~21z....
>>
>> In the night from 1.30 till 2.45 observed someone's wspr-signals on 
>> 503850.
>> The signals was not decoded.
>>
>> 73 Andrey
>>
>>
>>> Hi Andrey
>>> Pse look at 502.57 starting at 1800 utc CW and QRS3
>>> De mal/g3kev
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 6:45 PM
>>> Subject: LF: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello LF'ers,
>>>> QRV RCV today WSPR-beacons on 500 kHz (503850+/-) till the morning.
>>>> Also QRSS3 above frequency 502.350. If someone is going to work in
>>>> QRSS3-mode,
>>>> please inform your frequency.
>>>>
>>>> 73 Andrey



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Dear Gary, LF Group,

The bigger signal from G4WGT reaches peaks of about 589 here at the moment - 
it is quite interesting to watch the received level going up and down over a 
range of 25dB or so with the QSB. I am running the Spec Lab plotter at the 
moment to see what it looks like over a period of time.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Dear Vernon, Lubos, LF Group,

Thanks for the overnight WSPR reports - the beacon closed down at 0800utc.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Hell swl in KO86NP end LF
Many thanks for the pics report...i send again in week.several day's
the beacon 137776.2 in qrss60.the pleasure for the other control's
good sunday
Claude F8boj JN16WA
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> Hello Claude, LF,
> SWL in KO86np.. The river was the aerial:)
> 
> hi.... all
> Error sorry
> Beacon "BOJ" is for 10H18......UTC
> 137776.20 hz in QRSS 60
> excuse my
> Claude F8boj JN16WA



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who is transmitting on 137.775 at 2117z?

I have a steady, strong carrier, clearly switched on/off with a 
period of several minutes.
S/N is 18 dB in 1Hz, just audible.

73 - Marco IK1ODO - JN35sa



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mal hamilton wrote:
> Try QSO mode. Beacons only generate QRM for QSO operators.

And vice versa...

Johan SM6LKM


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Hi LF,
Capture SP2KDS
Henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
SP2KDS 11-10.jpg

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi LF,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Capture SP2KDS</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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I copied OZ8NJ too at 502.5 RST 577 in IO92ub.

Quite a bit of QSB in and out though.  Copied G3KEV replying initially but
he also was QSB a lot.  

With best regards
 
 
Jim G7NKS
 
 
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Subject: LF: Re: OZ8NJ calling CQ on 502.5kHz, RST 589 in KP03SD

Hello Paul-Henrik, LF,
I hear OZ8NJ, RST 579, freq. 502150

73 Andrey


> Hello LF
> 
> Just receiving CQ DE OZ8NJ 2008UTC on 502.5kHz +/- RST 589 - 599. A truly
> massive signal at the moment.
> 
> Frequency is changing around a bit, not like drift, more like the operator
is
> adjusting controls.
> 
> Now G3KEV is relpying to the CQ with RST 579.
> 
> 
> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
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Hello LF

Just receiving CQ DE OZ8NJ 2008UTC on 502.5kHz +/- RST 589 - 599. A truly
massive signal at the moment.

Frequency is changing around a bit, not like drift, more like the operator=
 is
adjusting controls.

Now G3KEV is relpying to the CQ with RST 579.


Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
Vaasa / KP03SD




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Hi Paul-Henrik and LF
Nice copy from SM6BGP here.
 
Gunnar (BGP) are you a member of the SK6RUD radioclub ?
 
F4DTL  Nicolas JN18FP
RX : Icom IC7400
Ant: Wellbrook LFL  1010



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<DIV>Nice copy from SM6BGP here.</DIV>
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  It is not a rumor !=20
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  English:  http://www.mydarc.de/dl0cux/nobele.pdf

  any Questions to  autor, via internet to sender

  we are highly interrested in Reports from out of Europe !=20

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Henny, John, Jean-Pierre,
Possibly, it OE5ODL...
OE5ODL at 00.35 (my capture, 3s-window): http://rn3agc.msk.ru/136-3/0910270034-oe5odl-3.jpg
Signal in 3s (my capture): http://rn3agc.msk.ru/filez/091027-signal-rn3agc.jpg
On capture it is possible to read a callsign (capture from Henny): http://rn3agc.msk.ru/filez/091027-signal-pa3cpm.jpg

73 Andrey


> Hello J-P,John,Andrey,
> also here the big signal,
> best 73s
> henny pa3cpm
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
> strange big signal 27-10.jpg
>
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Ok Peter ,

Well there is not much of a way round the  situation ...if you  do a=
 site survey with a portable  rx and look for the  quietest spot for=
 the  antenna , that may help , you  don't need too much of a ae for=
  rx purposes  ....from what you  say , your  are in the  open anyway=
 ?sounds like a case of  water water everywhere  and not a drop to  dr=
ink !
can you  set up a remote location and  run the  cables under the  grou=
nd ?

As the  noise is a sort of uniform distributed 'noise' then I'm sure=
 it would be possible to  programme a noise reducing software that sim=
ply summed multiple passes of the  signal and used a sort of  addition=
 to recover the   data ok it  would  have a delay , but so what ..only=
  problem is finding someone who can code it ...I ran a recoding of a=
 low cw signal  through the  noise filter of 'soundforge-9' and was ju=
st left with a cw signal .. so it  can be done ...=20

Height may help as well , if you can get the  active part of the  ante=
nna as high as possible and away from the  buildings  that may reduce=
 the  level=20

Its a pity we don't have one of these for  500 > http://websdr.ewi.utw=
ente.nl:8901/ ..=20

Ok on the  rtty  , well 100 % copy  on rtty  with  Chris is a relative=
ly  new thing, before is was quite a slog to  get the message over !

good luck

G .=20

nb - have  you  tried using  wide band  filters .. back all the  gains=
 off , will not  suffer from ringing as much .. I use my  ws18 head ph=
ones for  cw  hihi=20



From: M0FMT=20
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 4:37 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: Re: LF: MOFMT


      Ok Graham thanks for the info.

      If it was on the same frquency that was probably Dennis and me.=
 We've been on for abt an hour ...hee. Well I can only conclude it is=
 ADSL because it is just raising the noise floor it is very subtle not=
 really identifiable like say TV LTB, it's a mush. Frame ants help a=
 bit but not as sensitive at the LW by a mile. I use everything SDR so=
ftware to niose blank and is filtering down to 200hz and Xtal filters=
 on my Kenwood TS690s which has all the filters.  Its very depressing.=
 I took my DC rx around to Chris XIZ abt 6miles away and I could hear=
 you on RTTY the other day a smashing signal. I have a similar ant set=
 up I have a higher ASL and I am in open fields about 1/2 to a mile fr=
om the rest of humanity but still have noise....dohh!!!

      Any way gl Graham and thanks for the reports. Things will be pic=
king up now with the season change so hope to hear you for a twoway on=
 500kc/s soon.

      73 petefmt

      --- On Mon, 12/10/09, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:


        From: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
        Subject: Re: LF: MOFMT
        To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
        Date: Monday, 12 October, 2009, 3:36 PM


        Ok Peter=20

        Should of given you a cal then but was using the  ft897  at th=
e  time , with no  tx on 500 , good signal at the time , odd  for mid=
  day ? some  cw on at the moment 1530 bst , but  quite  low .. may be=
 the same tx ... noise level on the  rx is showing s8 to  s9 all day=
 .... across the  full band, interestingly  the  dsp noise reduction=
 in the ft897=20
        actually  helps ..  must be the  right kind of noise ...

        As for the  rx .. well in a direct test , swopping from the =
 ft897 and the  ra1778m , the  ft897 was  giving a better  recovery of=
 the  signal .. which is a bit disconcerting .. may be the  wrong type=
 of noise for the 1778 xtal filters (1.4 mhz and do tend to  ring a bi=
t if  pinged) , but iv'e had a few replies lately  where I could not=
  resolve the  other station, I think mainly  due to  the  high level=
 of  noise a the  qth=20

        73 Graham=20




        From: M0FMT=20
        Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 3:08 PM
        To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
        Subject: Re: LF: MOFMT


              Thanks Graham

              Not a beacon but a call, computer generated. Locally we=
 try to have a qso weekdays at around 11:45 or at some time over the=
 lunch hour and again later around 4:00 it is a very loose sched with=
 M0JXM Dennis and rarely M0KHW.Ken.  Rog GW3UEP listens some times whc=
h is remarkable and reports by e-mail because I can't hear him its my=
 RX or location (adsl noise?) that is poor but we should be reciprical=
.

              FYI the current rig is an xtal controlled GW3UEP (ala UK=
500kHZ group) this week run off a laptop PSU very approx 35 watts outp=
ut to a lw up 12m - 40m lng. Tnx fer rprt, meanwhile back to the RX wi=
th a big hammer.

              73 petefmt


              --- On Mon, 12/10/09, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>=
 wrote:


                From: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
                Subject: LF: MOFMT
                To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
                Date: Monday, 12 October, 2009, 12:34 PM


                M0FMT ,Good   569 from the  35  ft  vertical (with atu=
 ) ft897-d speaker at 1200  bst to  day , normal speed  cw , beacon or=
  live cq call  ?=20

                Graham

                G0NBD  /. io83lk=20



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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Ok Peter ,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Height may help as well , if you can=
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active part of the&nbsp; antenna as high as possible and away from the=
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buildings &nbsp;that may reduce the&nbsp; level </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Its a pity we don't have one of these=
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&gt; <A   title=3D"http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/&#10;CTRL + Click=
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 % copy&nbsp;=20
on rtty&nbsp; with&nbsp; Chris is a relatively &nbsp;new thing, before=
 is was=20
quite a slog to&nbsp; get the message over !</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>good luck</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G . </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>nb - have&nbsp; you&nbsp; tried using=
&nbsp; wide=20
band&nbsp; filters .. back all the&nbsp; gains off , will not&nbsp; su=
ffer from=20
ringing as much .. I use my&nbsp; ws18 head phones for&nbsp; cw&nbsp;=
 hihi=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dm0fmt@yahoo.c=
o.uk   href=3D"mailto:m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk">M0FMT</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 12, 2009 4:37 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mail=
to:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: MOFMT</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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      <DIV>Ok Graham thanks for the info.</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>If it was on the same frquency that was probably Dennis and=
 me. We've=20
      been on for abt an hour ...hee. Well I can only conclude it is=
 ADSL=20
      because it is just raising the noise floor it is&nbsp;very subtl=
e not=20
      really identifiable like say TV LTB, it's a mush. Frame ants hel=
p a bit=20
      but not as sensitive at the LW by a mile. I use everything SDR=
 software to=20
      niose blank and is filtering down to 200hz&nbsp;and Xtal filters=
 on my=20
      Kenwood TS690s which has all the filters.&nbsp;&nbsp;Its very de=
pressing.=20
      I took my DC rx around to Chris XIZ abt 6miles away and&nbsp;I=
 could hear=20
      you on RTTY the other day a smashing signal. I have a similar an=
t set up I=20
      have a higher ASL and I am in open fields about 1/2&nbsp;to a mi=
le from=20
      the rest of humanity&nbsp;but still have noise....dohh!!!</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>Any way gl Graham and thanks for the reports. Things will=
 be picking=20
      up now with the season change&nbsp;so hope to hear you for a two=
way on=20
      500kc/s soon.</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>73 petefmt</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>--- On <B>Mon, 12/10/09, Graham=20
      <I>&lt;g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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id; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From:=20
        Graham &lt;g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk&gt;<BR>Subject: Re: LF: MOF=
MT<BR>To:=20
        rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Date: Monday, 12 October, 2009=
, 3:36=20
        PM<BR><BR>
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        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Ok Peter </FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Should of given you a cal&nbs=
p;then but was=20
        using the&nbsp; ft897&nbsp; at the&nbsp; time , with no&nbsp;=
 tx on 500=20
        , good signal at the time , odd&nbsp; for mid&nbsp; day ? some=
&nbsp; cw=20
        on at the moment 1530 bst , but&nbsp; quite&nbsp; low .. may=
 be the same=20
        tx ... noise level on the&nbsp; rx is showing s8 to&nbsp; s9=
 all day=20
        .... across the&nbsp; full band, interestingly&nbsp; the&nbsp;=
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        reduction in the ft897 </FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>actually&nbsp; helps ..&nbsp;=
 must be=20
        the&nbsp; right kind of noise ...</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>As for the&nbsp; rx .. well=
 in a direct=20
        test , swopping from the&nbsp; ft897 and the&nbsp; ra1778m ,=
 the&nbsp;=20
        ft897&nbsp;was &nbsp;giving a better&nbsp; recovery of the&nbs=
p; signal=20
        .. which is a bit disconcerting .. may be the&nbsp; wrong type=
 of noise=20
        for the 1778 xtal filters (1.4 mhz and do tend to&nbsp; ring=
 a bit if=20
        &nbsp;pinged) , but iv'e had a few replies lately&nbsp; where=
 I could=20
        not&nbsp; resolve the&nbsp; other station, I think mainly&nbsp=
; due=20
        to&nbsp; the&nbsp; high level of&nbsp; noise a the&nbsp; qth=
=20
        </FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73 Graham </FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT><FONT size=3D2      =
     face=3DArial></FONT><BR></DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
        <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
        <DIV><B>From:</B> <A           title=3D"mailto:m0fmt@yahoo.co.=
uk&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"           href=3D"http://uk.mc281.=
mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dm0fmt@yahoo.co.uk"           rel=3Dnofo=
llow target=3D_blank ymailto=3D"mailto:m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk">M0FMT</A>=20
        </DIV>
        <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 12, 2009 3:08 PM</DIV>
        <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org     =
      href=3D"http://uk.mc281.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Drsgb_lf_g=
roup@blacksheep.org"           rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank       =
    ymailto=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</A>=20
        </DIV>
        <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: MOFMT</DIV></DIV></DIV>
        <DIV><BR></DIV>
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              <DIV>Thanks Graham</DIV>
              <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
              <DIV>Not a beacon but a call, computer generated. Locall=
y we try=20
              to have a qso weekdays at around 11:45 or at some time=
 over the=20
              lunch hour and again later around 4:00 it&nbsp;is a very=
 loose=20
              sched with M0JXM Dennis and rarely M0KHW.Ken. &nbsp;Rog=
 GW3UEP=20
              listens some times whch is remarkable&nbsp;and reports=
 by=20
              e-mail&nbsp;because I can't hear him its my RX or locati=
on (adsl=20
              noise?) that is poor but&nbsp;we should be reciprical.</=
DIV>
              <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
              <DIV>FYI the current rig is an xtal controlled&nbsp;GW3U=
EP (ala=20
              UK500kHZ group) this week run off a laptop PSU very appr=
ox 35=20
              watts output to a lw up 12m - 40m lng. Tnx fer rprt, mea=
nwhile=20
              back to the RX with a big hammer.</DIV>
              <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
              <DIV>73 petefmt<BR></DIV>
              <DIV><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 12/10/09, Graham=20
              <I>&lt;g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></D=
IV>
              <BLOCKQUOTE                 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16=
,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From:=20
                Graham &lt;g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk&gt;<BR>Subject: LF:=
=20
                MOFMT<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Date: Mon=
day, 12=20
                October, 2009, 12:34 PM<BR><BR>
                <DIV id=3Dyiv363705495>
                <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>M0FMT ,Good&nbsp;&nbs=
p; 569 from=20
                the&nbsp; 35&nbsp; ft&nbsp; vertical (with atu&nbsp;)=
 ft897-d=20
                speaker at 1200&nbsp; bst to&nbsp; day , normal speed&=
nbsp; cw ,=20
                beacon or&nbsp; live cq call &nbsp;? </FONT></DIV>
                <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
                <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Graham</FONT></DIV>
                <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
                <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G0NBD&nbsp; /.=20
                io83lk</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></TD></TR></TBOD=
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        <HR>

        <DIV></DIV><BR>No virus found in this incoming message.<BR>Che=
cked by=20
        AVG - www.avg.com <BR>Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.1=
4.11/2430=20
        - Release Date: 10/12/09=20
  04:01:00<BR></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR>
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<HR>

<P></P><BR>No virus found in this incoming message.<BR>Checked by AVG=
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www.avg.com <BR>Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.11/2430 - Re=
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Hi Graham, LF,

Copying your THROB2 transmission very well here but only about 35 miles
away.

I am running FLdigi & MultiPSK software together & it looks like MultiPSK
has the upper hand, certainly at this distance. Be interesting to have a
comparison on a weaker signal.

Below are the same seven lines from both software decoders.


FLdigi
THE QUICK BROWN FOK JUMPED OVER THE LAZVY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TVLTING
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 01234567898G0NBD TESTING
THE QUICK BROWB FOKBJUMPVD OVER THE LAZEY MOON 012345A78O G7BZD TVSTIDG
THE QUICK BROWN FOK JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 012345678,PG0NBD TVLTPDF
7HE.QU8CY BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THV LAZEY MOOBPV1I3456785 G0NZCBTVLT NG
THE QUICK BROWN FOK JSMOED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 01234O5789 G0FBD TESTIAG
7HEQQU8CY BROWN FOX JUMPED OVVR THVGLRZVB MOON O123RO67)6GG0NZDGTVLJUFF

MultiPSK
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTING
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTING
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTING
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTING
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTING
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTING
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTING

73,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo



2009/10/27 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>

>  Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency
>
> TX set  502.000 USB
> Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency
>
> Repeat time 60  seconds
>
> RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'  time
>
> Reports / observations
>
> Tnx  Graham
>
> G0NBD - IO83LK
>
>
>

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<div>Hi Graham, LF,</div><div><br></div><div>Copying your THROB2 transmiss=
ion very well here but only about 35 miles away.</div><div><br></div><div>=
I am running FLdigi &amp; MultiPSK software together &amp; it looks like=
 MultiPSK has the upper hand, certainly at this distance. Be interesting=
 to have a comparison on a weaker signal.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Below are the same seven lines from both software decoders.</div><div=
><br></div><div><br></div><div>FLdigi</div><div>THE QUICK BROWN FOK JUMPED=
 OVER THE LAZVY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TVLTING</div><div>THE QUICK BROWN FO=
X JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 01234567898G0NBD TESTING</div>

<div>THE QUICK BROWB FOKBJUMPVD OVER THE LAZEY MOON 012345A78O G7BZD TVSTI=
DG</div><div>THE QUICK BROWN FOK JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 012345678,PG0N=
BD TVLTPDF</div><div>7HE.QU8CY BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THV LAZEY MOOBPV1I345=
6785 G0NZCBTVLT NG</div>

<div>THE QUICK BROWN FOK JSMOED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 01234O5789 G0FBD TESTI=
AG</div><div>7HEQQU8CY BROWN FOX JUMPED OVVR THVGLRZVB MOON O123RO67)6GG0N=
ZDGTVLJUFF</div><div><br></div><div>MultiPSK</div><div>THE QUICK BROWN FOX=
 JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTING</div>

<div>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTI=
NG</div><div>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0N=
BD TESTING</div><div>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 012345=
6789 G0NBD TESTING</div>

<div>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTI=
NG</div><div>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0N=
BD TESTING</div><div>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 012345=
6789 G0NBD TESTING</div>

<div><br></div><div>73,</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo</di=
v><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/27=
 Graham <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk"=
 target=3D"_blank">g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk</a>&gt;</span><br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
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<div style=3D"padding-left:10px;padding-right:10px;padding-top:15px" name=
=3D"Compose message area">
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Running=A0 THROB-2-=A0 Beacon=A0=A0=
=20
503.000 khz centre=A0 frequency </font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">TX set=A0 502.000 USB</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Audio=A0 1000 Hz cent frequency </fon=
t></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Repeat time 60=A0 seconds=A0 </font><=
/div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">RX=A0 &#39;ON&#39;=A0 during cycle tx=
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=A0time </font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Reports / observations=A0=A0 </font><=
/div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Tnx=A0 Graham</font></div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">G0NBD - IO83LK </font>=A0</div>
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I just confirmed from Mori JH1GVY that he was captured by the TIL 
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Hello Warren,LF
Capture XGJ
Henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
XGJ 31-10.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello Warren,LF</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Capture XGJ</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:<BR>XGJ 31-10.jpg<BR><BR>Opmerking: 
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Thanks Alan.

I have downloaded the GRNDWAV3 programme and am playing with it - looks
useful.

Really looking for some *normalised curves* so I could do very quick
estimates of expected losses versus distance. I've seen these years ago in a
CCIR paperback and was hoping to find these on the net somewhere.

Now back to 500kHz WSPRing....

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/10/31 Alan Melia <alan.melia@btinternet.com>

> Hi Roger you will find that the late Reg Edwards programs GRNDWAV3 (I
> think)
> gives a very good idea of ground wave strengths. I do have an article here
> (somewhere) from Jack Belrose with I believe some skywave strength formula
> in it. (I am "between two PCs" at the moment :-)) and it is undoubtedly on
> the other one ) Generally at LF the skywave starts to equal or exceed the
> groundwave strength at ranges exceeding 700km. It may be a little less that
> that at 500k. It also depends a little on the receive-system senitivity to
> a
> given mode, which is why very low power stations sometimes experience a
> "quiet zone" at least to audible reception.
>
> Alan G3NYK
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roger Lapthorn" <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 12:28 PM
> Subject: LF: 500kHz attenuation graphs?
>
>
> > Can someone please point me to any CCIR or similar graphs (preferably on
> the
> > internet) showing the attenuation with distance expected on groundwave
> and
> > skywave at 500kHz?
> >
> > 73s
> > Roger G3XBM
> >
> > --
> > -------------------------------------------------------------
> > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
> > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
> > G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088
> >
>
>
>


-- 
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Thanks Alan. <br><br>I have downloaded the GRNDWAV3 programme and am playi=
ng with it - looks useful. <br><br>Really looking for some <b>normalised=
 curves</b> so I could do very quick estimates of expected losses versus=
 distance. I&#39;ve seen these years ago in a CCIR paperback and was hopin=
g to find these on the net somewhere.<br>
<br>Now back to 500kHz WSPRing....<br><br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br><br><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/31 Alan Melia <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:alan.melia@btinternet.com">alan.melia@btinternet.com</a>&gt;</s=
pan><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hi Roger you wi=
ll find that the late Reg Edwards programs GRNDWAV3 (I think)<br>
gives a very good idea of ground wave strengths. I do have an article here=
<br>
(somewhere) from Jack Belrose with I believe some skywave strength formula=
<br>
in it. (I am &quot;between two PCs&quot; at the moment :-)) and it is undo=
ubtedly on<br>
the other one ) Generally at LF the skywave starts to equal or exceed the<=
br>
groundwave strength at ranges exceeding 700km. It may be a little less tha=
t<br>
that at 500k. It also depends a little on the receive-system senitivity to=
 a<br>
given mode, which is why very low power stations sometimes experience a<br=
>
&quot;quiet zone&quot; at least to audible reception.<br>
<br>
Alan G3NYK<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
----- Original Message -----<br>
From: &quot;Roger Lapthorn&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rogerlapthorn@gmail=
.com">rogerlapthorn@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
To: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</a>&gt;<br>
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 12:28 PM<br>
Subject: LF: 500kHz attenuation graphs?<br>
<br>
<br>
&gt; Can someone please point me to any CCIR or similar graphs (preferably=
 on<br>
the<br>
&gt; internet) showing the attenuation with distance expected on groundwav=
e and<br>
&gt; skywave at 500kHz?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 73s<br>
&gt; Roger G3XBM<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; -------------------------------------------------------------<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://g=
3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">http://www.g3xbm=
.co.uk</a><br>
&gt; G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>----------------------=
---------------------------------------<br><a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blo=
gspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.g3=
xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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2009/10/12 "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>:
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> Very bad copy of XGJ on the grabber last night .
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Hi All,
My thanks to all (both direct & LF) who confirmed that the grabber links are
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Gary - G4WGT.

2009/10/6 Chris <c.ashby435@btinternet.com>

>  Hi Gary,
> All seems to work OK here as well.
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Hi All,<div><br></div><div>My thanks to all (both direct &amp; LF) who con=
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Hi,

beaconing is boring -=20
do not often hear "real CW" QSO

Date: 19.Oct. 2009
OZ8NJ -- Time: Started CQ- calling 1905 UTC
QSO with G3LDO
           End : 1920h UTC
OZ8NJ - 579
G3LDO - 519 ( QSB to NIL)

JO43IU
Cuxhaven
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>beaconing is boring - </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>do not often hear "real CW" QSO</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Date: 19.Oct. 2009</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>OZ8NJ -- </FONT><FONT size=3D2>Time: Started CQ-=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>OZ8NJ - 579</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>G3LDO - 519 ( QSB to NIL)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>JO43IU</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Cuxhaven</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Germany</FONT></DIV>
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Hi Chris,
I used an OMP 100W amp for my brief sortie onto 136kHz. I never blew=
 up any FETs, but never managed to get more than 50W out of it either.
Unless you want a linear mode go for the switching-on-and-off things=
 they're much more efficient.
Hugh M0WYE
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  Subject: LF: AF Amps at 136


  Hi All,
  Just started constructing TX for 136kHz, noticed Maplin do a Vellema=
n audio PA kit that is rated at 200W (100W RMS into 4R). OK there's no=
 mains transformer or heat sink, but reckon it's good value at =A314.9=
9. Point is the specs also say the minus 3db frequency response is 3Hz=
 / 200kHz.
  The RSGB books 'LF Today' refer to using audio amps as PAs at 136 wi=
th 'a few modifications'. Does anybody know where these modifications=
 are documented? I guess there's nothing major, reduce a few cap value=
s? Remove Zobel Network etc.?? If anyone has experience with this appr=
oach I would appreciate some hints. Thanks.
  Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable.

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I used an OMP 100W amp for my brief=
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Thi is the capture of 16-10 Warren,LF
73s
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Hello Warren,LF,
Nice capture XGJ
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thi is the capture of 16-10 Warren,LF</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>henny cpm</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Nice capture XGJ</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het 
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Hi Steve,
A small list of grabbers on the UK500KHZ Group web site at :-

http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers

Also my own grabber page for the UK, EU & USA bands at :-

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.

<http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers>

2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra.com>

> G'day All,
>
> In an expression of extreme optimism I am interested in getting details of
> 500kc beacons (preferably QRSS30 and slower) in Europe.    To get real-time
> confirmation of on-air status I am also looking for relevant local grabbers
> for those beacons.
>
> 73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)
>
>

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Hi Steve,<div><br></div><div>A small list of grabbers on the UK500KHZ Grou=
p web site at :-</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://groups.google.=
com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers">http://groups.google.com/group/uk=
500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>Also my own grabber page for the UK, EU &amp; USA band=
s at :-</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgt=
aylor/grabber2.html">http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html</a>=
</div>
<div><br></div><div>73</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.</di=
v><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/w=
eb/500-khz-grabbers"></a><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/5 VK2Z=
TO <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:vk2zto@djirra.com">vk2zto@djirr=
a.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">G&#39;day All,<br>
<br>
In an expression of extreme optimism I am interested in getting details of=
 500kc beacons (preferably QRSS30 and slower) in Europe. =A0 =A0To get rea=
l-time confirmation of on-air status I am also looking for relevant local=
 grabbers for those beacons.<br>

<br>
73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV) <br>
<br>
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>>> And I am Dr. QRPp!!    <<<<

Dr Field good I presume ?

G :) ..

(for the younger ones http://www.drfeelgood.de/)

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>
> Hi John
>
> And I am Dr. QRPp!!  You've tagged me 3 times so far.  My earth 
> improvements
> are working!!
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> Cheers
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> With best regards
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> Jim
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John P-G
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> Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz QRPp WSPRing tonight
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>
>
> Roger Lapthorn wrote:
>> This evening and overnight I shall be running my little 500kHz WSPR 
>> beacon
>> in its "original" state (ERP around 6uW) before I start mods to the TX 
>> and
>> the antenna, hopefully resulting in stronger signals.
>
> I'm game for a try, looking now and will leave it running overnight.
> Already got G7NKS!
>
> Good luck,
>
> John
> GM4SLV
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>
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On 29 Oct 2009 at 10:44, Rik Strobbe wrote:

> Over the past days I monitored the G4JNT WSPR beacon 24/24.
> During daytime I have a weak but consistent copy of Andy's signal,
> average -24dB with ups and down of some dB. During nighttime the signal
> is -10dB on average, with the usual deep QSB (peaking -1dB, dips down to
> -20dB). But the most interesting observation is that in the afternoon
> the first peaks (from -24dB up to -8dB) occur as early as 15:45 UTC.
> This is almost 1 hour before sunset (16:37 UTC) and almost 1.5 hours
> before the D-layer (at mid point) goes into darkness.
> 
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
> 
> 

This behaviour on 500kHz mirrors closely that which we get on 160m. 
Certainly in the winter months and to some extent in the autumn the 
nearer continentals are audible on top band throughout the day and from 
1-2 hours before sunset more distant stations such as OK and OH start 
coming through. As always the problem is lack of activity, and events 
such as CQ160 and the Stew Perry contest show how much before sunset 
and after sunrise there is propagation. ON and PA0 are not really that 
far from G4JNT in Portsmouth so I am not really surprised you are 
copying them in the daytime. Here in Bracknell, IO91PJ, G4JNT is s9+ on 
the meter at all times, both as the normal beacon and WSPR.

I think the only thing different on 500kHz is the very slow QSB, which 
does seem unique to that band.

73 Dave G3YMC

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Hi Andrey,LF,
TNX for the grabber,
antenne sloper,200 watt 2150km
Henny pa3cpm
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Hello Gary, Hello LF,

 

your signal is mostly clear audible in JN59LN with 559 in the peaks, but
very deep QSB-dips and sometime lost in QRN.

 

73's de Gerhard  //  DK6NI

 

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  _____  

Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Gary - G4WGT
Gesendet: Sonntag, 11. Oktober 2009 20:45
An: Rsgb_Lf_Group
Betreff: Re: LF: 503.6kHz Test

 

Hi LF,

 

ERP increased to 2 watts.

 

73

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.

 

2009/10/11 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Hi LF,

 

I am testing my Class D Tx after a PA fail yesterday.

Frequency 503.6kHz

QRS03 at 5 minute intervals & CW ID.

1 watt ERP.

 

73

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.

 


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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Sonntag, 11.=
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2009 20:45<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b> Rsgb_Lf_Group<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> Re: LF: 503.6k=
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Hello Niels, Hello Mal,

 

Heard your CW-QSO at 20:15 UTC on 502.6 kHz in JN59LN;

Report for OZ8NJ:          569, vy loud signal!!

Report for G3KEV:        449, good readable;

 

vy 73 de Gerhard  /  DK6NI

 

=======================  

 

 

  _____  

Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von mal hamilton
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 1. Oktober 2009 20:02
An: rsgb
Betreff: LF: G3KEV QRV 500

 

Nw qrv 502.57 CW and QRS3 as appropriate for QSO also QSX 7033 for DX QSO's

De Mal/g3kev

 


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
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ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hea=
rd your CW-QSO at
20:15 UTC on 502.6 kHz in JN59LN;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Rep=
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 569,
vy loud signal!!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
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good readable;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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DK6NI<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'fo=
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Donnerstag,=
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2009 20:02<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b> rsgb<br>
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Dear all,

tonight on Oktober 30th, 2009 around 23.00 UTC aural copy of SM6BGP on
501,4 kHz in eastern Bavaria, JN68GN; operating in QRSS and in between
also in normal speed; RST 559 with qsb. He sent his qth as JO67IK.

EI0CF was heard again in normal CW on 501,9 kHz 569 qsb, working
crossband with GM3BST. He also called F6CNI for crossband on 3566, but
this attempt failed. Finbar also mentioned having heard the SM6BGP
transmision.

Guess I should also prepare for crosband in November.

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB 


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On 17 Oct 2009 at 15:02, G3XBM wrote:

> Got some IRF510 FETs from Graham G3MFJ's club sales, so I've increased
> my 500kHz ERP by around 10dB to around 60uW (microwatts). Already G7NKS
> is spotting me 10dB stronger than ever before, which is an excellent
> sign. 
> 
> All being well, the WSPR beacon will run overnight tonight and all
> reports would be much appreciated.

153000  15  10  2.6   -62  0  G4JNT IO90 23         
153000   8 -20  5.2     8  1  G3XBM JO02 0  

Wow, only 30dB down on G4JNT! Well done Roger.

(sorry cannot upload as I am copying with WSJT7 which doesn't support 
the internet upload - but has an auto soundcard calibrator).

73 Dave G3YMC
IO91PJ

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thank you Andrey and Jean-Pierre!
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73 Warren K2ORS
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On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 3:55 AM, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)"
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> Hello Andrey , Warren ,
> Very strong signal last night Warren !
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
> Andrey rn3agc a =E9crit :
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>> Hello Warren,
>> capture at ~02.01z
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>> 73 Andrey rn3agc
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John P-G wrote:
> Walter
> 
> I've just started monitoring WSPR at 19:54UTC on 503.590 dial from Shetland
> 
> I hope to see your sigs soon. Spots are being uploaded to wspr.net


1954 -23  2.5   0.505089  0 DI2AG JN59 27
1956 -28  2.6   0.505089  0 DI2AG JN59 27
1958 -27  2.7   0.505089 -1 DI2AG JN59 27
2006 -21  2.7   0.505089  0 DI2AG JN59 27

Nice to see your signals so soon Walter.

WSPR.NET shows the distance as 1428km


Regards,

John
GM4SLV
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You would probably have more success if you transmitted CW or QRS 3.=
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  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  This evening and overnight I shall be running my little 500kHz WSPR=
 beacon in its "original" state (ERP around 6uW) before I start mods=
 to the TX and the antenna, hopefully resulting in stronger signals.=
 With 5 different stations reporting me I am hopeful of a few more bef=
ore getting stuck in.

  Please take a listen and do let me know if you spot me.

  Thanks everyone
  73s
  Roger G3XBM

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Dear Piotr, LF

Good MF conditions today:
2230 -26  0.2   0.503867  0 OR7T JO20 23
2230  -7  0.1   0.503924  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2230 -24  0.3   0.503951  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2234 -21  0.1   0.503867  0 OR7T JO20 23
2238  -8  0.0   0.503924  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2244 -31  0.0   0.503867  0 OR7T JO20 23
2244  -6  0.0   0.503924  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2252 -30  0.2   0.503867  0 OR7T JO20 23
2252  -1  0.2   0.503924  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2258 -29  0.2   0.503867  0 OR7T JO20 23
2258  -3  0.1   0.503924  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2306 -26  0.0   0.503867  0 OR7T JO20 23
2306  -1 -0.2   0.503924  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2306 -24  0.1   0.503950  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2310 -26  0.0   0.503867  0 OR7T JO20 23
2310  -8 -0.2   0.503924  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2312 -21  0.0   0.503950  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2316  -6  0.0   0.503924  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2316 -25  0.1   0.503950  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2318 -26  0.0   0.503867  0 OR7T JO20 23
2320 -24  0.0   0.503950  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2324  -6 -0.1   0.503924  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2324 -21 -0.1   0.503950  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2330 -26 -0.2   0.503866  0 OR7T JO20 23
2330  -6 -0.1   0.503924  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2332 -23 -0.3   0.503950  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2336 -24  0.1   0.503867  0 OR7T JO20 23
2338 -24 -0.2   0.503950  0 M0BMU IO91 33
2340  -9 -0.2   0.503924  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2342 -24  0.0   0.503867  0 OR7T JO20 23
2344  -2 -0.2   0.503924  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
2352   2 -0.1   0.503924  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
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Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI


> Dear Andy, LF group
> 
> after many unsuccessful attempts  to get your wspr signal  positively 
> decoded
> today  i had more luck  .. here we go:
> 2252 -28  0.1   0.503855  0 G4JNT IO90 23
> 2300 -28  0.2   0.503854  0 G4JNT IO90 23
> the rx side is a modest one:  1sq.meter loop /two stage buffer/amplif/ 
> ft857d
> 
>                                       73 de Piotr, sq7mpj
> 
> qth: Lodz /jo91rs/
> 
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Tim,
Forgot to mention I have a multi grabber on my web site at :-

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html

<http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html>Have a look, top screen
covers UK, middle screen covers most of EU & USA & bottom screen is G4JNT's
beacon chart.

Gary.

2009/10/3 tim hague <m0afj@dsl.pipex.com>

> Gary - G4WGT wrote:
>
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>> Point the cursor at the right side of the Argo display & click the right
>> mouse button.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Gary - G4WGT.
>>
>> 2009/10/3 tim hague <m0afj@dsl.pipex.com <mailto:m0afj@dsl.pipex.com>>
>>
>>    I'm trying to set up Argo, I can get copy on the vertical
>>    waterfall but not the horizontal, any tips chaps?
>>
>>    Tim M0AFJ
>>
>>
>>  Thanks Gary, all working fine now, got good copy of Mal. I had the wrong
> frequency set on the RH slider..
> Is there a set frequency for QRS?, is it worth leaving the Rx on overnight?
>
>

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Tim,<div><br></div><div>Forgot to mention I have a multi grabber on my web=
 site at :-</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk=
/wgtaylor/grabber2.html">http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html=
</a></div>
<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber=
2.html"></a>Have a look, top screen covers UK, middle screen covers most=
 of EU &amp; USA &amp; bottom screen is G4JNT&#39;s beacon chart.</div><di=
v><br>
</div><div>Gary.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/3 tim hague <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:m0afj@dsl.pipex.com">m0afj@dsl.pipex.=
com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
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Gary - G4WGT wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"im">
Hi Tim,<br>
<br>
Point the cursor at the right side of the Argo display &amp; click the rig=
ht mouse button.<br>
<br>
73<br>
<br>
Gary - G4WGT.<br>
<br></div>
2009/10/3 tim hague &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:m0afj@dsl.pipex.com" target=3D"_=
blank">m0afj@dsl.pipex.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:m0afj@dsl.pipe=
x.com" target=3D"_blank">m0afj@dsl.pipex.com</a>&gt;&gt;<div class=3D"im">=
<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0I&#39;m trying to set up Argo, I can get copy on the vertical<br>
 =A0 =A0waterfall but not the horizontal, any tips chaps?<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0Tim M0AFJ<br>
<br>
<br>
</div></blockquote>
Thanks Gary, all working fine now, got good copy of Mal. I had the wrong=
 frequency set on the RH slider..<br>
Is there a set frequency for QRS?, is it worth leaving the Rx on overnight=
?<br>
<br>
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Hi Clemens,

The beacon is on air now, but will be off again shortly. It should be
transmitting WSPR 1800-2300z Sunday evening.

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/10/25 Clemens Paul <cpaul@gmx.net>

>  Roger,
>
> this message came too late for me (already sleeping). :-)
> At which time will you run your beacon again his evening?
> It seems that around 22.00UTC signals from GB on 500kHz are peaking here.
>
> 73
> Clemens
> DL4RAJ
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>
> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 24, 2009 10:50 PM
> *Subject:* Re: LF: Re: 500kHz 1mW WSPR beaconing
>
> Clemens (et al),
>
> Just restarted the 500kHz WSPR beacon (have been out for a few hours) on
> 0.503910 +/-20Hz.
>
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM
>
> 2009/10/24 Clemens Paul <cpaul@gmx.net>
>
>>  Roger,
>>
>> what is your exact dial qrg?
>> Are you on air at present?
>> I'll watch out for your signal.
>>
>> 73
>> Clemens
>> DL4RAJ
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>
>> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 24, 2009 5:55 PM
>> *Subject:* LF: 500kHz 1mW WSPR beaconing
>>
>> This will be active periodically over the weekend. It would be nice to get
>> a few new reporters spotting me.
>>
>> 73s
>> Roger G3XBM
>>
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Hi Clemens,<br><br>The beacon is on air now, but will be off again shortly=
. It should be transmitting WSPR 1800-2300z Sunday evening.<br><br>73s<br>=
Roger G3XBM<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/25 Clemens Paul <spa=
n dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cpaul@gmx.net">cpaul@gmx.net</a>&gt;</=
span><br>
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<div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Roger,</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">this message came too late for me (al=
ready=20
sleeping). :-)</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">At which time will you run your beaco=
n again his=20
evening?</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">It seems that around 22.00UTC signals=
 from GB on=20
500kHz are peaking here.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">73<br>Clemens<br>DL4RAJ</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-right:=
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=3D"im">
  <div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: norm=
al; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-a=
djust: none; font-stretch: normal;">----- Original Message ----- </div>
  <div style=3D"background: rgb(228, 228, 228) none repeat scroll 0% 0%;=
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round-inline-policy: continuous; font-family: arial; font-style: normal;=
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<b>From:</b>=20
  <a title=3D"rogerlapthorn@gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:rogerlapthorn@gmail.=
com" target=3D"_blank">Roger=20
  Lapthorn</a> </div>
  <div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: norm=
al; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-a=
djust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"rsgb_lf_group@b=
lacksheep.org" href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_bla=
nk">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>=20
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rmal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-hei=
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 Saturday, October 24, 2009 10:50=20
  PM</div>
  <div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: norm=
al; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-a=
djust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: LF: Re: 500kHz 1mW=
 WSPR=20
  beaconing</div>
  <div><br></div></div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">Clemens (et al),<=
br><br>Just restarted the 500kHz WSPR beacon=20
  (have been out for a few hours) on 0.503910 +/-20Hz.<br><br>73s<br>Roger=
=20
  G3XBM<br><br>
  <div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/24 Clemens Paul <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:cpaul@gmx.net" target=3D"_blank">cpaul@gmx.net</a>&gt;<=
/span><br>
  <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(20=
4, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
    <div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
    <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Roger,</font></div>
    <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
    <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">what is your exact dial qrg?</fon=
t></div>
    <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Are you on air at present?</font>=
</div>
    <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">I&#39;ll watch out for your signa=
l.</font></div>
    <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
    <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">73<br>Clemens<br>DL4RAJ</font></d=
iv>
    <blockquote style=3D"border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-righ=
t: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;">
      <div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant:=
 normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-s=
ize-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">-----=20
      Original Message ----- </div>
      <div style=3D"background: rgb(228, 228, 228) none repeat scroll 0%=
 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-b=
ackground-inline-policy: continuous; font-family: arial; font-style: norma=
l; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height=
: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">
<b>From:</b>=20
      <a title=3D"rogerlapthorn@gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:rogerlapthorn@gm=
ail.com" target=3D"_blank">Roger Lapthorn</a> </div>
      <div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant:=
 normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-s=
ize-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b>=20
      <a title=3D"rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_gro=
up@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a> </di=
v>
      <div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant:=
 normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-s=
ize-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b>=20
      Saturday, October 24, 2009 5:55 PM</div>
      <div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant:=
 normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-s=
ize-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b>=20
      LF: 500kHz 1mW WSPR beaconing</div>
      <div><br></div>This will be active periodically over the weekend. It=
 would=20
      be nice to get a few new reporters spotting me.<br><br>73s<br>Roger=
=20
      G3XBM<br clear=3D"all"><br>--=20
      <br>-------------------------------------------------------------<br=
><a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://g3xbm=
-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk" target=3D"_bl=
ank">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678=20
      =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>
      <p></p>
      <hr>

      <p></p><br>No virus found in this incoming message.<br>Checked by AV=
G - <a href=3D"http://www.avg.com" target=3D"_blank">www.avg.com</a> <br>V=
ersion:=20
      8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.28/2454 - Release Date: 10/23/09=20
      14:09:00<br></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"a=
ll"><br>--=20
  <br>-------------------------------------------------------------<br><a=
 href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://g3xbm-qr=
p.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk" target=3D"_blank=
">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =A0=20
  =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>
  <p>
  </p><hr>

  <p></p><br>No virus found in this incoming message.<br>Checked by AVG -=
=20
  <a href=3D"http://www.avg.com" target=3D"_blank">www.avg.com</a> <br>Ver=
sion: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.28/2454 - Release=20
  Date: 10/23/09 14:09:00<br></div></div></blockquote></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>----------------------=
---------------------------------------<br><a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blo=
gspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.g3=
xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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Tu John,
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
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> At 1321z.
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Hi LF,
There is a strong signal on 503.930Khz running WSPR but using odd minutes
instead of even minutes.

Cannot get a decode, who is that ??

Gary - G4WGT.

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Hi LF,<div><br></div><div>There is a strong signal on 503.930Khz running WSPR but using odd minutes instead of even minutes.</div><div><br></div><div>Cannot get a decode, who is that ??</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT.</div>

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Getting a signal from G0VSJ  cw beacon on 503.25  , sig about S4 in io=
83lk
giving  qth as io82tp  .. I think was the beacon I picked up last week=
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G .=20

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Throb 2 beacon on 503.000 =20

running  :  fldigi , throb mode -2- center  frequency  503.000 Khz=20

TX  set USB , Rx 'on during  60 second tx pause ,

Interested to  see  how the  mode prints / recovers  in the  noise /=
 qsb =20

Reports welcome ,

Tnx - Graham
G0NBD

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Throb 2 beacon on 503.000&nbsp; </FON=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>running&nbsp; :&nbsp; </FONT><FONT si=
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bsp; 503.000 Khz=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>TX &nbsp;set USB , Rx 'on during&nbsp=
; 60 second tx=20
pause ,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Interested to&nbsp; see&nbsp; how the=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G0NBD</FONT></DIV>
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Hi Henry
Thanks capture SP2KDS Henny.
73!
Marcin SQ2BXI


Hi LF,
Capture HF70W
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
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hi Henny and LF group=20
last night when my transmission I had a problem with the computer .
.. bjo truth is indicative BOJ .. my apologies friends=20
Claude f8boj JN16WA

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  From: henny van elst=20
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  Hi LF,
  Strong signal JBO
  Henny pa3cpm
  73s
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Mal,

> I have seen some similar type antennas while flying across the USA years=
 ago
> painted RED and WHITE if I remember correctly.
> That was in the days when LF and MF were the norm for broadcasting, befo=
re
> the advent of FM and satellites, although there is still plenty of LF/MF
> broadcasting but mainly low power local stations these days, and antenna
> masts are more modest structures than they used to be.

       Towers are still pained red and white for visibility.
There has never been any LF broadcasting in the US.

There is a big Blaw-Knox tower in Nashville, Tennessee for station WSM
(650kHz) and a smaller one in Manchester, NH.
The Manchester NH Blaw-Knox tower has been used by hams after hours on
160 meters.

There are just as many high power MW stations and big towers in the US
as before, but now it is common for formerly daytime only stations to
have reduced power at night which creates QRM for MW dxers.

--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1





On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 11:21 AM, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrot=
e:
> I have seen some similar type antennas while flying across the USA years=
 ago
> painted RED and WHITE if I remember correctly.
> That was in the days when LF and MF were the norm for broadcasting, befo=
re
> the advent of FM and satellites, although there is still plenty of LF/MF
> broadcasting but mainly low power local stations these days, and antenna
> masts are more modest structures than they used to be.
> de mal/g3kev
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clemens Paul" <cpaul@gmx.net>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 4:03 PM
> Subject: LF: Re: Circa 1930s 545 kc in Budapest
>
>
>> How about that?
>> http://www.waniewski.de/id414.htm
>>
>> HTH
>> 73
>> Clemens
>> DL4RAJ
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dexter McIntyre W4DEX"
>> <dmcintyre@att.net>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 4:29 PM
>> Subject: LF: Circa 1930s 545 kc in Budapest
>>
>>
>>> I have a 1936 edition of Electrical Engineers Handbook by Pender -
>>> McIlwain
>>> which show a diagram of a 1030 foot antenna in Budapest used on 545 kc=
.
>>> So far
>>> I have found no history on this antenna. =A0Anyone have any info on th=
is
>>> station
>>> and antenna's history?
>>>
>>> Dex
>>
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Hello Peter,

thanks for the report.
Condx seems to be good tonight. Beste decodes I got so far are LA6TPA (155=
2km), TF3HZ (2123km) and AA1A (5598km).

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
________________________________________
Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or=
g] namens Piotr M=B3ynarski [sq7mpj@toya.net.pl]
Verzonden: zaterdag 17 oktober 2009 23:33
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: LF: OR7T wspr

Dear Rick, LF group
it is my first decode of ur wspr signal
2118 -21  1.4   0.503868  0 OR7T JO20 23
2118 -22  0.8   0.503929  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
it was also sent  to wspr database

                    73 de Piotr, sq7mpj

qth: Lodz  /jo91rs/

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Roger,

what is your exact dial qrg?
Are you on air at present?
I'll watch out for your signal.

73
Clemens
DL4RAJ
  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  This will be active periodically over the weekend. It would be nice to get a few new reporters 
spotting me.

  73s
  Roger G3XBM

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Roger,</FONT></DIV>
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yes it is John,
73s
henny pa3cpm
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> At 1804z.  Is it PA3CPM?
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From: YO2IS
  Pleased to receive today a nice QSL, from G3KEV, Mal,
 confirming our crossband CW QSO 502.5 / 7033 KHz.
 It's a first one for me and a new one for YO ...
  Will randomly run the YO2X beacon testing the setup.
 QRG 505.763 KHz, 41m sloping wire and abt 100W input
 PIC keyer in QRSS3 and CW id.
  Some 137.7 KHz activity is also planned depending on
 the level of the urban QRM. Have to test for 137 KHz
 reception, the K9AY loop versus the tunned multiturn-
 loop located under the roof etc.
  BTW, some days ago got the 'RSGB 136KHz Award' #10
 for 6 confirmed DXCC entities ( 3 on CW, 3 on QRSS3 ).
  Hope the cold weather will bring more trafic on VLF.
    73 & DX, Szigy.


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Thanks for the FB report Chris.

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/10/25 Chris <c.ashby435@btinternet.com>

>  G3XBM WSPR signal arriving here fine at the moment at -21db, 0.503924,
> Drift 1.
> 73 all,
> Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, JO01MI.
>



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Thanks for the FB report Chris.<br><br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br><br><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/25 Chris <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
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<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">G3XBM WSPR signal arriving here fine=
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moment=A0at -21db, 0.503924, Drift 1.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">73 all,</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent,=20
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G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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Hi LF,
Just started WSPR a few minutes ago, initial settings incorrect, power is
now set correctly at 50mW (17dbm) ERP not the initial 500mW (27dbm) ERP.

73

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Hi LF,<div><br></div><div>Just started WSPR a few minutes ago, initial settings incorrect, power is now set correctly at 50mW (17dbm) ERP not the initial 500mW (27dbm) ERP.</div><div><br></div><div>73</div><div><br></div><div>
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Great capture, thanks Henny!

-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
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2009/10/7 henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>:
> Hello Warren,LF
> Capture XGJ
> Henny cpm
> best 73s
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden
> verzonden:
> XGJ 07-10.jpg


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Dear Paul-Henrik, LF

Nice copy from SM6BGP. Raport on normal CW 438 / QSB.
Distance 496km, my antenna windom 1,8MHz (83m long).
--
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI



Hello LF

501.4kHz, 20091030 2100UTC:

Just receiving SM6BGP in JO67IK. Seems to be in becaon mode CW + QRSS.

Good signal on 1 x 1 metre square loop with homemade 2 x 2N5109 loop
amplifier.


New callsign for me on this band, good luck with the operation.


Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
Vaasa / KP03SD



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Danke Michael f=FCr den Rapport. Immerhin 275km.
73 de ASB

2009/10/24, Michael Oexner <michael.oexner@web.de>:
> Hi Toni,
>
>
>> 18:40 UTC now calling CQ on 137.710 in QRS3, 73 de Toni
>
> Good copy of your signal in JN49bf - cf. screenshot.
>
>
> --
> vy 73 + gd DX,
>
> Michael
>
>
> RX: ICOM R75, SDR-IQ, Perseus
> Antenna: Wellbrook ALA 1530, Mini-Whip
> Location: Roschbach, Germany N 49=B015' E 8=B007' / Locator JN49BF
>
> ENDBH & NANDBH editor
>
> http://ndbchangeblog.blogspot.com
> http://lwca.org/miscdocs/oexner/2009NDBinfo.zip

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Seems to me that measuring ERP at LF is a bit of a problem. On here I=
 have read comments referring to a stations ERP by various operators=
 : 'Estimate', 'Guess', 'Approx.', 'Reckon I'm fairly close to...', 'A=
pproaching' etc. Nobody REALLY knows exactly! Even Mike's book, 'LF To=
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ing to be made. The last sentence on the bottom of p81 just about sums=
 it up.
I don't know what the answer is, but it is clear that ERP at LF is far=
 more complex than at VHF/UHF etc. where 'full size' antennas are gene=
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Not really stable for low speeds.
 
F4DTL  Nicolas JN18FP
RX : Icom IC7400
Ant: Wellbrook LFL  1010



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G'day Steve.

* VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra.com> [Tue, 6 Oct 2009 19:15:34 +1100]:
> G'day All,
>
> I had a look at the RW3ADB grabber and I see exactly the same
> characteristic
> signal here in VK-land on 499,993 Hz.    Can't think what it might be.
>
> Sometimes it looks like one or two second dots and sometimes it looks
> continuous.
>
> Attached are two comparisons.
>
> Any clues ?


Two variants Steve:
1) Russian Army use an IF 500Kc. May be a heterodynes signals. But how 
is rx'd in AU? )
2) Pulse-Power converters.

>
> 73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)
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> * "VK2ZTO_DownUnder_499993Hz.gif"
> * "RW3ADB_Grabber_499993Hz.gif"


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Lubos

Can you  make a  small email  audio recording , that would be  useful=
 ?

tnx - G ..


From: Lubos OK2BVG=20
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:49 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: RE: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000


Hello Graham, LF!
Sorry, but I use my computer together with SDR-IQ as a LF receiver and=
 I haven=B4t got the other PC for decoding THROB packets. But your sig=
nal is nice!

Lubos, OK2BVG


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From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:34:27 +0000
Subject: Re: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000


Tnx Lubos=20

Are  you  able to  decode any of the  signal ???

I use  > http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html

Tnx - Graham ..


From: Lubos OK2BVG=20
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:05 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: RE: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000


Hello Graham, LF!
I see your beacon=B4s packets very well.

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:28:12 +0000
Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency=20

TX set  502.000 USB
Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency=20

Repeat time 60  seconds =20

RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'  time=20

Reports / observations  =20

Tnx  Graham

G0NBD - IO83LK =20




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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Lubos</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Can you&nbsp; make a&nbsp; small email &nbsp;a=
udio=20
recording , that would be&nbsp; useful ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>tnx - G ..</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dbvgbob@hotmai=
l.com   href=3D"mailto:bvgbob@hotmail.com">Lubos OK2BVG</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:49 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mail=
to:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> RE: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000</DIV></DIV></DIV=
>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Hello Graham, LF!<BR>Sorry, but I use my computer toget=
her with=20
SDR-IQ as a LF receiver and I haven=B4t got the other PC for decoding=
 THROB=20
packets. But your signal is nice!<BR><BR>Lubos, OK2BVG<BR><BR>
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From: <A   href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.c=
o.uk</A><BR>To: <A   href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb=
_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A><BR>Date:=20
Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:34:27 +0000<BR>Subject: Re: LF: Throb -2- beacon=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Tnx Lubos </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Are&nbsp; you&nbsp; able to&nbsp; decode any=
 of the&nbsp;=20
signal ???</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I use&nbsp; &gt; <A   href=3D"http://www.w1hkj=
.com/Fldigi.html">http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Tnx - Graham ..</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><B>From:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:bvgbob@hotmail.com&#13;&#10;CTR=
L + Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailto:bvgbob@hotmail.com">Lubos=
 OK2BVG</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:05 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&#13;=
&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@black=
sheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> RE: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000</DIV></DIV></DIV=
>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Hello Graham, LF!<BR>I see your beacon=B4s packets very=
=20
well.<BR><BR>73!<BR><BR>Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<BR>
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From: <A   href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.c=
o.uk</A><BR>To: <A   href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb=
_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A><BR>Date:=20
Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:28:12 +0000<BR>Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.0=
00=20
<BR><BR>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; THROB-2-&nbsp; Beacon&n=
bsp;&nbsp;=20
503.000 khz centre&nbsp; frequency </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>TX set&nbsp; 502.000 USB</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Audio&nbsp; 1000 Hz cent frequency </=
FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Repeat time 60&nbsp; seconds&nbsp; </=
FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Hello Jim, LF,
OK watching & plotting my signal. I am watching my signal on Andrey's
grabber in Moscow & the QSB is very prominent. Judging from the grabber
trace it must audible there at times.

Image attached.

I would be interested in seeing the plot Jim, may Tx until about 2300utc.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.


2009/10/11 James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>

> Dear Gary, LF Group,
>
> The bigger signal from G4WGT reaches peaks of about 589 here at the moment
> - it is quite interesting to watch the received level going up and down over
> a range of 25dB or so with the QSB. I am running the Spec Lab plotter at the
> moment to see what it looks like over a period of time.
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>

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Hello Jim, LF,<div><br></div><div>OK watching &amp; plotting my signal. I=
 am watching my signal on Andrey&#39;s grabber in Moscow &amp; the QSB is=
 very prominent. Judging from the grabber trace it must audible there at=
 times.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Image attached.</div><div><br></div><div>I would be in=
terested in seeing the plot Jim, may Tx until about 2300utc.</div><div><br=
></div><div>73</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.</div><div>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/11 James Moritz <span dir=3D"lt=
r">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:james.moritz@btopenworld.com">james.moritz@btopen=
world.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
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Dear Gary, LF Group,<br>
<br>
The bigger signal from G4WGT reaches peaks of about 589 here at the moment=
 - it is quite interesting to watch the received level going up and down=
 over a range of 25dB or so with the QSB. I am running the Spec Lab plotte=
r at the moment to see what it looks like over a period of time.<br>

<br>
Cheers, Jim Moritz<br>
73 de M0BMU <br>
<br>
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Vernon,

Set the dial to 502.4kHz USB.  You wom't hear me with my 1mW ERP, but you
will hear some of the stronger EUs like SM6BHZ and OR7T I expect.

73s
Roger G3XBM


2009/10/29 Vernon <vmath@eastlink.ca>

> Hi everyone.....what dial frequency is everyone using for 500khz wspr....I
> finally have my long wires out and have been monitoring. I can leave WSPR
> running almost 24/7 to see if I can catch a WSPR signal from across the
> pond. I did catch a couple last year which was great!!!
> 502.4k
> Regards,
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> Vernon - VE1VDM
> FN85ij
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Vernon,<br><br>Set the dial to 502.4kHz USB.=A0 You wom&#39;t hear me with=
 my 1mW ERP, but you will hear some of the stronger EUs like SM6BHZ and OR=
7T I expect.<br><br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e">2009/10/29 Vernon <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:vmath@eastlin=
k.ca">vmath@eastlink.ca</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hi everyone....=
.what dial frequency is everyone using for 500khz wspr....I finally have=
 my long wires out and have been monitoring. I can leave WSPR running almo=
st 24/7 to see if I can catch a WSPR signal from across the pond. I did ca=
tch a couple last year which was great!!!<br>

502.4k<br>
Regards,<br><font color=3D"#888888">
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2009/10/12 Andrey rn3agc <rn3agc@mail.ru>:
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> Capture at 0.30.
>
> 73 Andrey
>
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Chris,

I was wondering what was going for a while ! good  signal with me in=
 io82lk, but  =3Df6ci=3D was just on the edge at times with  qsb .. lo=
oks to be about 450  miles from my qth, so  that's  possibly in the sk=
ip zone , didn't look on the  two grabbers , often see a good signal=
 at Birmingham that's  not  showing at my qth or very well at  Gary's=
 and that's only  about 80 miles south  of 'us'=20

Looks like these low long wires radiate quite well at 500 , the high=
 angle seems to  help the  'short' skip ?

G ..=20



From: Chris Osborn=20
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 10:02 PM
To: LF Group=20
Subject: LF: ON / F6CNI / P on MF


Yes chaps your ears did not deceive you.
Andy is operating on 500 kc/s today and maybe tomorrow.
A call on the band tonight may rouse him.

He has a 150m long and 20m high aerial but is only running=20
5 watts output !
Nonetheless he was 579 with me (IO92UB) and a good solid
signal.

He says that he will be back in ON and QRV the weekend after=20
next.

73 Chris G3XIZ







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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Chris,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I was wondering what was going for a=
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good&nbsp; signal with me in io82lk, but&nbsp; =3Df6ci=3D was just on=
 the edge at=20
times with&nbsp; qsb .. looks to be about 450&nbsp; miles from my qth,=
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that's&nbsp; possibly in the skip zone , didn't look on the&nbsp; two=
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te quite well=20
at 500 , the high angle seems to&nbsp; help the&nbsp; 'short' skip=20
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: ON / F6CNI / P on MF</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>Yes chaps your ears did not deceive you.<BR>Andy is operating on=
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today and maybe tomorrow.<BR>A call on the band tonight may rouse him.=
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Hi Gary

 

U r audible in IO92ub at abt S5 peaking to S7 (503.6) on my IC735 and
poor/average invtd L.   Looking on the traces on HRD/DM780 I can see your
dashes and dots.  There is quite a bit of QRN here tonight

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS

 

  _____  

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
Sent: 11 October 2009 19:12
To: Rsgb_Lf_Group
Subject: LF: 503.6kHz Test

 

Hi LF,

 

I am testing my Class D Tx after a PA fail yesterday.

Frequency 503.6kHz

QRS03 at 5 minute intervals & CW ID.

1 watt ERP.

 

73

 

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi Gary<o:p></o=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>U r audible in=
 IO92ub at abt S5 peaking to
S7 (503.6) on my IC735 and &nbsp;poor/average invtd L. &nbsp;&nbsp;Loo=
king on the traces on
HRD/DM780 I can see your dashes and dots. &nbsp;There is quite a bit=
 of QRN here
tonight<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>With best regar=
ds</span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o=
:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New Rom=
an"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></spa=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'fo=
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t></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:Tahoma'>
owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksh=
eep.org] <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>G=
ary - G4WGT<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 11 October 2009=
 19:12<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Rsgb_Lf_Group<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: 503.6kHz=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>QRS03 at 5 minute intervals &amp; CW ID.<o:p>=
</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
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Hell Nicolas and all
Many thanks for the capture
GOOD night
Claude f8boj
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Hello Henny captured last evening.
  The stong signal it's F8BOJ.

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Graham,

Thanks Graham.  See my post to Gary for an explanation of what I had=
 in mind.

Please note - it was not my intent to have a whinge - I was just puzzl=
ed more than anything else...

It is all a bit academic anyway - going on past behaviour it will be=
 another decade before we get access (if at all) to 600M down here. =
   The Kiwis are streets ahead wrt to getting new bands approved as us=
ual.

Thanks.

73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 3:25 AM
  Subject: Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers....


  Steve=20

  You spotted the  deliberate  mistake ...  the grabber page on the =
 group is sort of maintained .. but  everything is running  on a as an=
d when basis  . I added the pages when they where live .. but  as you=
  can see  .. not  all are now  running ...and as for the  beacons ..=
 e'rrrrr   well  permanent beacons  are not  allowed .. except G4JNT=
 who is now running  dual mode .(need to  get the  final power level=
 for  wspr).. and so on into the  night  ..

  If anyone has a live 500 grabber that they would  like to  list  on=
 the page , please  email the  web link and I will add  it  to the 'to=
p'  of the   page .. or if you  find one  let 'us' know !=20

  tnx - Graham

  G0NBD





  From: VK2ZTO=20
  Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 12:13 PM
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Subject: Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers....


  G'day Gary,

  There currently seems to be a rend in the time-space continuum here=
 down under in VK-land....

  Apart from your site - for which I get a "can't connect".

  From the links on the Google site I get the following results.

  1. GM4SLV - last grab Jan 2009.
  2. CT1DRP - last grab Nov 2008.
  3. Hartmut Wolff - last grab Nov 2008.
  4. GM4ISM - can't connect.
  5. DF6NM - last grab May 2008.
  6. RN3AGC - can't connect.

  The only one that works is the http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/ link=
.

  What am I missing ?

  73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Gary - G4WGT=20
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
    Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 8:28 PM
    Subject: Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers....


    Hi Steve,=20


    A small list of grabbers on the UK500KHZ Group web site at :-


    http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers


    Also my own grabber page for the UK, EU & USA bands at :-


    http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html


    73


    Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.





    2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra.com>

      G'day All,

      In an expression of extreme optimism I am interested in getting=
 details of 500kc beacons (preferably QRSS30 and slower) in Europe. =
   To get real-time confirmation of on-air status I am also looking fo=
r relevant local grabbers for those beacons.

      73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)=20






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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Graham,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks Graham.&nbsp; See my post to=
 Gary for an=20
explanation of what I had in mind.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Please note - it was not my intent to=
 have a whinge=20
- I was just puzzled more than anything else...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>It is all a bit academic anyway - goi=
ng on past=20
behaviour it will be another decade before we get access (if at all)=
 to 600M=20
down here.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The Kiwis are streets ahead wrt to gettin=
g new=20
bands approved as usual.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE   style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT:=
 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV     style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color:=
 black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dg8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk     href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fs=
net.co.uk">Graham</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@=
blacksheep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_l=
f_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 06, 20=
09 3:25=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: 500kc beacon=
s and=20
  grabbers....</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Steve </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>You spotted the&nbsp; deliberate&nb=
sp; mistake=20
  ...&nbsp; the grabber page on the&nbsp; group is sort of maintained=
 ..=20
  but&nbsp; everything is running&nbsp; on a as and when basis&nbsp;=
 . I added=20
  the pages when they where live .. but&nbsp; as you&nbsp; can see&nbs=
p; ..=20
  not&nbsp; all are now&nbsp; running ...and as for the&nbsp; beacons=
=20
  ..&nbsp;e'rrrrr &nbsp; well&nbsp; permanent beacons&nbsp; are not&nb=
sp;=20
  allowed .. except G4JNT who is now running&nbsp; dual mode .(need to=
&nbsp; get=20
  the&nbsp; final power level for&nbsp; wspr).. and so on into the&nbs=
p;=20
  night&nbsp; ..</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>If anyone has a live 500 grabber th=
at they=20
  would&nbsp; like to&nbsp; list&nbsp; on the page , please&nbsp; emai=
l=20
  the&nbsp; web link and I will add&nbsp; it&nbsp; to&nbsp;the&nbsp;'t=
op'&nbsp;=20
  of the&nbsp; &nbsp;page .. or if you&nbsp; find one&nbsp; let 'us'=
 know !=20
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>tnx - Graham</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G0NBD</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
  <DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A     title=3D"mailto=
:vk2zto@djirra.com&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"     href=3D"mailto=
:vk2zto@djirra.com">VK2ZTO</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 05, 2009 12:13 PM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A     title=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&=
#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers....</DIV></D=
IV></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G'day Gary,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>There currently seems to be a rend=
 in the=20
  time-space continuum here down under in VK-land....</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Apart from your site - for which I=
 get a "can't=20
  connect".</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>From the links on&nbsp;the Google=
 site I get the=20
  following results.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>1. GM4SLV - last grab Jan 2009.</FO=
NT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>2. CT1DRP - last grab Nov 2008.</FO=
NT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>3. Hartmut Wolff - last grab Nov=20
  2008.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>4. GM4ISM - can't connect.</FONT></=
DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>5. DF6NM - last grab May 2008.</FON=
T></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>6. RN3AGC - can't connect.</FONT></=
DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>The only one that works is the <A=
     href=3D"http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/" rel=3Dnofollow><FONT si=
ze=3D2     face=3D"Times New Roman">http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/</=
FONT></A>&nbsp;link.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>What am I missing ?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)</FONT></DIV=
>
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV=
>
    <DIV       style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-co=
lor: black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dg4wgt@tiscali.co.uk href=3D"mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk"=
>Gary -=20
    G4WGT</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A       title=3Drsgb_l=
f_group@blacksheep.org       href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o=
rg">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 05,=
 2009 8:28=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: 500kc beac=
ons and=20
    grabbers....</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>Hi Steve,=20
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV>A small list of grabbers on the UK500KHZ Group web site at :-=
</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><A       href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/=
500-khz-grabbers">http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-=
grabbers</A></DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV>Also my own grabber page for the UK, EU &amp; USA bands at :-=
</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><A       href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2=
.html">http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html</A></DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV>73</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><A       href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/=
500-khz-grabbers"></A><BR><BR>
    <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A=
       href=3D"mailto:vk2zto@djirra.com">vk2zto@djirra.com</A>&gt;</SP=
AN><BR>
    <BLOCKQUOTE       style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0p=
x 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"       class=3Dgmail_quote>G'day Al=
l,<BR><BR>In an expression of extreme optimism I=20
      am interested in getting details of 500kc beacons (preferably QR=
SS30 and=20
      slower) in Europe. &nbsp; &nbsp;To get real-time confirmation of=
 on-air=20
      status I am also looking for relevant local grabbers for those=
=20
      beacons.<BR><BR>73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)=20
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73s
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David,

You might try some web searching on the subject, as there is some 
material on calibrating receiving setups and making field measurements. 
Here's one possibility:
http://www.w1tag.com/LF_FSM.htm

John, W1TAG

David Weinreich wrote:
> Jim,
>  
> Thanks very much for the explanation it's very helpful. Too bad there 
> aren't very many calibrated receivers and antennas.
>  
> 73,
>  
> David Weinreich
> WA2VUJ/3
> 
>  >>>
> *From: *  "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
> *To:*     <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> *Date: *  10/07/09 4:02 PM
> *Subject: *   Re: LF:  Re Propagation report
> 
> Dear David, LF Group,
> 
> There are basically two ways of determining ERP, briefly:
> 
> Method 1 is to calculate the radiation resistance (Rrad) of your antenna,
> which can be done using various text-book formulae, or using antenna
> simulation software like EZNEC or similar. Then you measure the RF current
> flowing in the antenna (Iant). The ERP is then Iant^2 x Rrad x 1.8 (1.8 is
> the directivity of electrically small vertical or loop antennas, which in
> practice is what all amateur 136kHz antennas are).
> 
> Method 2 is to measure the field strength some km from the antenna. The ERP
> is then (E x d)^2 /49, where E is the field strength, d distance in metres.
> This requires a calibrated antenna and measuring receiver, so is more
> complicated to do.
> 
> Method 1 is simpler to do, but yields ERP results that tend to be lower 
> than
> those obtained by method 2. This is thought to be due to various combined
> environmental effects on the antenna, which are not accounted for in the
> simple calculation. So to get a more accurate and definitive figure, you
> need to do method 2, but as far as compliance with licence conditions is
> concerned, method 1 is a conservative way of checking.
> 
> Good luck in your efforts!
> 
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Peter,
> 
> As an interested observer from the other side of the pond, how do you
> determine that you are close to the ERP limit?? I'd be interested in 
> knowing
> as I am trying to do some pro-bono work for the ARRL on getting use of 137
> kHz here in the USA.
> 
> Tnx & 73,
> 
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Hi Chris, LF,
The WSPR signal in question became sync'd shorty after & it was SM6BHZ, I
don't understand how it could be starting on the odd minute.

I haven't yet had any decodes from G3XBM, maybe soon as he improves the
station & conditions improve as we go into winter.

73

Gary - G4WGT.


2009/10/22 Chris <c.ashby435@btinternet.com>

>  Hi All,
> Gary: Could the undecoded signal you saw have been G3XBM, according to me
> he was on 503933?
> WSPR decodes here last night from G3XBM, G4JNT, G7NKS, OR7T and SM6BHZ.
> Horst: Agree with most comments on the PA0DRT active antenna. Mine works
> very well, signal strength is less than my long wire (at 500kHz), but the
> signal to noise ratio much better. At 136kHz and lower the signal strength
> is much better than the (non resonant) long wire. Its performance is quite
> impressive.
> Jim: SAQ is usually an excellent fully audible signal here on the PA0DRT
> active antenna.
> Vy 73, Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, (JO01MI).
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Hi Chris, LF,<div><br></div><div>The WSPR signal in question became sync&#=
39;d shorty after &amp; it was SM6BHZ, I don&#39;t understand how it could=
 be starting on the odd minute.</div><div><br></div><div>I haven&#39;t yet=
 had any decodes from G3XBM, maybe soon as he improves the station &amp;=
 conditions improve as we go into winter.</div>
<div><br></div><div>73</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT.</div><div><b=
r><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/22 Chris <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:c.ashby435@btinternet.com">c.ashby435@btinternet.com</a>&g=
t;</span><br>
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<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Hi All,</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Gary: Could the undecoded signal you=
 saw have been=20
G3XBM, according to me he was on 503933?</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">WSPR=A0decodes here last night from=
 G3XBM,=20
G4JNT, G7NKS, OR7T and SM6BHZ.=A0</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Horst: Agree with most comments on th=
e PA0DRT=20
active antenna. Mine works very well, signal strength is less than my long=
 wire=20
(at 500kHz), but the signal to noise ratio much better. At 136kHz and lowe=
r the=20
signal strength is much better than the (non resonant) long wire. Its=20
performance is quite impressive.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Jim: SAQ is usually an excellent full=
y audible=20
signal here on the PA0DRT active antenna.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Vy 73, Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent=
,=20
(JO01MI).</font></div></div>
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Tnx Lubos=20

Are  you  able to  decode any of the  signal ???

I use  > http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html

Tnx - Graham ..


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Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:05 PM
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Hello Graham, LF!
I see your beacon=B4s packets very well.

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency=20

TX set  502.000 USB
Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency=20

Repeat time 60  seconds =20

RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'  time=20

Reports / observations  =20

Tnx  Graham

G0NBD - IO83LK =20




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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Tnx Lubos </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Are&nbsp; you&nbsp; able to&nbsp; decode any=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Tnx - Graham ..</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><BR></DIV>Hello Graham, LF!<BR>I see your beacon=B4s packets very=
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well.<BR><BR>73!<BR><BR>Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<BR>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; THROB-2-&nbsp; Beacon&n=
bsp;&nbsp;=20
503.000 khz centre&nbsp; frequency </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>TX set&nbsp; 502.000 USB</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>RX&nbsp; 'ON'&nbsp; during cycle tx=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Reports / observations&nbsp;&nbsp; </=
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx&nbsp; Graham</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G0NBD - IO83LK </FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><BR=
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10dB over QRN/LX at 1429z.

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On 18/10/2009 at 15:30 Marco IK1ODO wrote:

>IK1HSS calling CQ at 137.750 QRSS3 1330z
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On 23/10/2009 at 21:54 Graham wrote:

>> *** 'crazy'?  That's nothing.  According to UK automobile regulations,
>the=20
>> Reliant Robin (a 3-wheeled vehicle with a fully enclosed fibreglass
>body)=20
>> is a motorcycle

I should have put motor tricycle.

>Oh no its not   ...  Its a  motorcycle  combination .. ie  motorcycle wit=
h=20
>a side  car .and has 3 wheels ... with  only  one driven   . just happens

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I often hear signals which do not appear on the GRABBERS.
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Hello Ha-Jo, LF

Finbar and me had a "X-band" QSO, EI->OH on 501.9kHz while OH->EI was brid=
ged
with the aid of SMS-messages :) . I had no TX capability on 80m last night=
 as
my inverted-L antenna was set up for wideband RX. I also had Finbar QSP my
"live" SMS-reports to other stations he worked 500/500. This is the reason=
 my
call was mentioned quite a few times on 501.9 last night.

Have to keep the spirit alive on this band somehow while the authorities=
 here
keep on refusing amateur / experimantal access for unmentionable reasons=
 that
are hard to accept.

73

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
Vaasa / KP03SD

Quoting hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de:

> Dear all,
>
> G3LDO could be heard again 559 in QRSS on 501,1 kHz around 21.15 UTC,
> October 9th, in
> eastern Bavaria, JN68GN.
>
> Even more interesting was the CW signal of EI0CF, RST 579, from 21.17
> until 21.50
> UTC. At first he was in QSO on 501,9 kHz (obviously with Louis,
> PA0LCE?). Then he heard G3XIZ and they moved to 503 kHz. G3XIZ could be
> "estimated" too for a while, but readibility remainded very poor.
>
> PA0LCE could not be heard. OH1LSQ (?) was also mentioned in this CW
> traffic. Sometimes reading of the CW signals was rather difficult due to
> very short qsb, swallowing several letters of a word, even within the
> usually rather strong transmission of EI0CF. But in general it was very
> interesting to listen.
>
> Hope condx down to Bavaria improve during the winter months.
>
> 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB
>
>




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Hi all on LF ,

On the grabber , very good activity last night !
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm

73 Jean-Pierre f1afj



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MF info
Yesterday evening report from RN3AGC at 1821 utc G3KEV readable, follo=
wed by a QSO with OZ8NJ he was 589 and copied me at 599, solid QSO and=
 no QSB noticeable. Reports from others include OH1LSQ and DK6NI.
Thanks to all.=20
I will be QRV this evening 502.57 from 1800 utc CW and QRS3 and QSX 70=
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De Mal/G3KEV
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yesterday evening report from RN3AGC&=
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Dear LF Group,

Quite a few stations in the QRSS segment around 137.7kHz tonight, with a 
reasonably low QRN level for a change  - I had a QSO with HB9ASB for the 
first time in several years. Also RU6LA a good signal, but no reply , 
although I tried DFCW10. Also saw G4WGT, and possibly F4DTL and OK2BVG. 
There is someone sending QRSS60 at about 137.776k, but only an "L" copied so 
far.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 



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Hello Paul-Henrik, LF,
I hear OZ8NJ, RST 579, freq. 502150

73 Andrey


> Hello LF
> 
> Just receiving CQ DE OZ8NJ 2008UTC on 502.5kHz +/- RST 589 - 599. A truly
> massive signal at the moment.
> 
> Frequency is changing around a bit, not like drift, more like the operator is
> adjusting controls.
> 
> Now G3KEV is relpying to the CQ with RST 579.
> 
> 
> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
> Vaasa / KP03SD






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Hi Warren thanks for your concern....yes I am fine if somewhat overworked at
present, and I have also been running up a new computer so having to
transfer all the apps....I promise I will get it up and running again
soon....

Thanks and Best Wishes
Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
To: "rsgb_lf_group" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
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Subject: LF: Propagation report


> I have noted that Alan Melia has not updated his propagation  report
> since the 7th of July!
> Hope all is well with Alan!
>
>
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>                 WD2XGJ
>                 WD2XSH/23
>                 WE2XEB/2
>                 WE2XGR/1
>



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Thank you  for the  report Gerhard=20

Be interested as to your  comments on the  decode , compared to the =
 psk qso=20
as it looks like the  condx are worse ?=20

What is the  peak signal level ?

tnx - G=20



From: Graham=20
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 6:52 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: Throb -2- Beacon running on 503.000 center frequency


Throb 2 beacon on 503.000 =20

running  :  fldigi , throb mode -2- center  frequency  503.000 Khz=20

TX  set USB , Rx 'on during  60 second tx pause ,

Interested to  see  how the  mode prints / recovers  in the  noise /=
 qsb =20

Reports welcome ,

Tnx - Graham
G0NBD




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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thank you&nbsp; for the&nbsp; report=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Be interested as to your&nbsp; commen=
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the&nbsp; decode , compared to the&nbsp; psk qso </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>as it looks like the&nbsp; condx are=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>What is the&nbsp; peak signal level=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>tnx - G </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Throb 2 beacon on 503.000&nbsp; </FON=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>running&nbsp; :&nbsp; </FONT><FONT si=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>TX &nbsp;set USB , Rx 'on during&nbsp=
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pause ,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Interested to&nbsp; see&nbsp; how the=
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prints / recovers &nbsp;in the&nbsp; noise / qsb&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Reports welcome</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT siz=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx - Graham</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G0NBD</FONT></DIV>
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Thanks Clemens.

Yes, I think you are right and I need to significantly reduce the losses in
my antenna and ground system next. I cannot start this now for several days
(grandchildren here with us) but hope to start on this next week.  My
theoretical calculations suggest the ground losses must be very high and the
effective height of my (very short) MF antenna very small. Improvements to
my ground system yesterday (a few short radials and a second ground spike)
did not make any different to the antenna current suggesting other
factors/losses may be masking these improvements.

So far I have had reports now from 18 different stations in 4 countries with
GM4SLV the best DX at 896kms (several times). I think John must have a very
quiet QTH up in the Shetland Isles.

Thanks again for listening and before long I hope you manage to hear me.

73s
Roger G3XBM
http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/



2009/10/26 Clemens Paul <cpaul@gmx.net>

>  Roger,
>
> Sri,no copy last evening.
> Only G4JNT (1055km) and G0NBD (1245km) .
> I didn't see even a faint trace on my Perseus SDR.
> From my experience I know that I can decode WSPR sigs
> even if they are very weakly visible on Perseus
> but what I can't see I can't decode.
> I believe at least ~10dB more are necessary to reach central Europe.
>
> 73
> Clemens
> DL4RAJ
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>
> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 25, 2009 7:34 PM
> *Subject:* Re: LF: 500kHz G4NT WSPR beaconing
>
> Let us hope you manage to hear my signal too later in the evening Clemens.
>
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM
>
> 2009/10/25 Clemens Paul <cpaul@gmx.net>
>
>>    2009-10-25 18:00   G4JNT   0.503850   +12   0   IO90iv   0.2   DL4RAJ
>>  JN68kj   1055   100
>>
>> This evening looks promising.
>>
>> 73
>> Clemens
>> DL4RAJ
>>
>
>
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Thanks Clemens. <br><br>Yes, I think you are right and I need to significa=
ntly reduce the losses in my antenna and ground system next. I cannot star=
t this now for several days (grandchildren here with us) but hope to start=
 on this next week.=A0 My theoretical calculations suggest the ground loss=
es must be very high and the effective height of my (very short) MF antenn=
a very small. Improvements to my ground system yesterday (a few short radi=
als and a second ground spike) did not make any different to the antenna=
 current suggesting other factors/losses may be masking these improvements=
.<br>
<br>So far I have had reports now from 18 different stations in 4 countrie=
s with GM4SLV the best DX at 896kms (several times). I think John must hav=
e a very quiet QTH up in the Shetland Isles.<br><br>Thanks again for liste=
ning and before long I hope you manage to hear me.<br>
<br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br><a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/">http:=
//g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">20=
09/10/26 Clemens Paul <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cpaul@gmx.ne=
t">cpaul@gmx.net</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
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<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Roger,</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Sri,no copy last evening.</font></div=
>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Only G4JNT (1055km) and G0NBD (1245km=
)=20
.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">I didn&#39;t see even a faint trace=
 on my Perseus=20
SDR.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">From my experience I know that I can=
 decode WSPR=20
sigs </font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">even if they are=A0very weakly=A0visi=
ble on=20
Perseus</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">but=A0what I can&#39;t see I can&#39;=
t=20
decode.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">I believe at least ~10dB=A0more are=
 necessary to=20
reach=A0central Europe.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">73<br>Clemens<br>DL4RAJ</font></div>
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djust: none; font-stretch: normal;">----- Original Message ----- </div>
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<b>From:</b>=20
  <a title=3D"rogerlapthorn@gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:rogerlapthorn@gmail.=
com" target=3D"_blank">Roger=20
  Lapthorn</a> </div>
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al; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-a=
djust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"rsgb_lf_group@b=
lacksheep.org" href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_bla=
nk">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>=20
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djust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: LF: 500kHz G4NT WS=
PR=20
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  <div><br></div></div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">Let us hope you=
 manage to hear my signal too later in the=20
  evening Clemens.<br><br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br><br>
  <div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/25 Clemens Paul <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:cpaul@gmx.net" target=3D"_blank">cpaul@gmx.net</a>&gt;<=
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It is not a rumor !=20
please read my official release=20

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any Questions to  autor, via internet to sender

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Tnx Andrey
All systems go NOW
MAL/G3KEV

----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: LF: Re: Re: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz


> Hi Mal,
> I have already switched on the grabber on your frequency.
> The grabber will work on 500 khz to ~21z....
>
> In the night from 1.30 till 2.45 observed someone's wspr-signals on 
> 503850.
> The signals was not decoded.
>
> 73 Andrey
>
>
>> Hi Andrey
>> Pse look at 502.57 starting at 1800 utc CW and QRS3
>> De mal/g3kev
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 6:45 PM
>> Subject: LF: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz
>>
>>
>>> Hello LF'ers,
>>> QRV RCV today WSPR-beacons on 500 kHz (503850+/-) till the morning.
>>> Also QRSS3 above frequency 502.350. If someone is going to work in
>>> QRSS3-mode,
>>> please inform your frequency.
>>>
>>> 73 Andrey
>


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Hi LF,
Capture at 22.25z.
720-OE5ODL

73 Andrey

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Hi Henny
Thanks for capture Henny.
--
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI

Hi LF,
Capture SP2KDS
Henny pa3cpm
73s
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verzonden:
SP2KDS 11-10.jpg

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=20
Hello Andrey,some traces from my beacon on your grabber.
=20
I retry the tests the next night.
=20
Best Regards F4DTL: JN18FP: 25 km south of Paris.
=20
=20
Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 21/10/2009 23:12:18 Paris, Madrid (heure d'=E9t=
=E9), =20
rn3agc@mail.ru a =E9crit :

Nicolas,
Here now local QRM. But, I hope, later the aether  becomes purer.

73 Andrey



Yes andrey thanx, im beaconing  now on 137776 QRSS90 with 300W but the rai=
n
modified the values of the  antenna.

Regards Friend.
F4DTL Nicolas

Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du  21/10/2009 22:53:46 Paris, Madrid (heure d'=E9t=
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rn3agc@mail.ru a =E9crit  :

Nicolas,
If there is a possibility, too try. Propagation  good,  for
certain and your signal here will be  visible.

73  Andrey




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Marcin,

       WD2XGJ is beaconing on 137.7798 kHz in QRSS 60.

-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1




On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Paul-Henrik <phl@netikka.fi> wrote:
> Hello Marcin!
>
> Full call copied from SP2KDS 1931UTC on 137.7kHz
>
> Good luck!
>
> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
> Vaasa / KP03SD
>
>
> Quoting Marcin <bxi@go2.pl>:
>
>> Hi LF!
>> Station SP2KDS will be work today,
>> Operation in QRSS will start from 19:00 UTC on 137.700kHz (QRRS3) and
>> 137,778kHz (QRSS60).
>> Vy 73!
>> Marcin SQ2BXI
>
>
>
>
>


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Hi Warren!
Next weekend I search your signal on 500m beverage in ligthouse Rozewie.
--
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI 

> Marcin,
> 
>        WD2XGJ is beaconing on 137.7798 kHz in QRSS 60.
> 
> -- 
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>                 WD2XGJ
>                 WD2XSH/23
>                 WE2XEB/2
>                 WE2XGR/1
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Paul-Henrik <phl@netikka.fi> wrote:
> > Hello Marcin!
> >
> > Full call copied from SP2KDS 1931UTC on 137.7kHz
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
> > Vaasa / KP03SD
> >
> >
> > Quoting Marcin <bxi@go2.pl>:
> >
> >> Hi LF!
> >> Station SP2KDS will be work today,
> >> Operation in QRSS will start from 19:00 UTC on 137.700kHz (QRRS3) and
> >> 137,778kHz (QRSS60).
> >> Vy 73!
> >> Marcin SQ2BXI
> >
> >
> >
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Hello Peter,

copying your signal vy clear in JN59LN

vy 73 de Gerhard  //  DK6NI

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-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Peter Dodd
Gesendet: Freitag, 30. Oktober 2009 00:43
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: 500kHz propagation

Over the last couple of weeks have heard a very weak CW signal at 508k=
Hz=20
beaconing BL. Tonight it was a bit stronger and I copied IBL.
I am now making a test QRSS transmission on 501.05kHz

Peter, G3LDO


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Hi Jim, I guess that could be frustrating to some who maybe do not
understand the limitations enough, but would seem to work ok within them.

The ideal method at 136 as you say was to use Loran sidebands of known
frequency. A better method would be to generate a 1Hz comb by injecting 1PPS
tickes from a GPS receiver into the antenna (very small cap) as with Peter
Martinex's "ClickLock" this can be done on the band you require to monitor.
For those not having a GPS 1PPS available the best solution my be to
generate one from MSF (or Droitwich), but this is not a
trival bit of hardware development, thought it is not too difficult I would
think...... 1 sec "ticks" are provided by MSF. I suppose you may need to
lock to those to generate the missing tick at the minute, but that would not
really be a problem for comb generation. Maybe kickoff a retriggerable mono
set slightly long to clean up the pulses.

All you then require is a receiver that enables you to distinguish which 1Hz
you are using
:-))

For Droitwich....mmmm how about a limiting carrier amp, a divide by 99 in a
CD4040 (maybe a 74HCT4040) followed by several 74HCT390s down to 1 sec. It
would not satisfy the purists with 40 to 100nS of jitter but would be good
enough for WOLF.

..and not so much daunting math to use :-))

Cheers de Alan G3NYK
----- Original Message -----
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> Dear LF Group,
>
> I have just uploaded "RX_Soundcard_cal_v1.pdf" to the files page at the
> UK500kHz group web site (go to
> http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/files - it is down at the bottom
of
> the list). This describes a way of calibrating receiver frequency and
sound
> card sampling rate using an off-air standard frequency such as MSF or
198kHz
> R4, without requiring an accurate audio frequency to calibrate the sound
> card. This is addressed primarily to WOLF mode transmission and reception,
> where this calibration has to be done fairly accurately in order for the
> mode to work properly, but could also be generally useful where sound card
> sample rate calibration has to be done, and there is no precision audio
> frequency source available in the shack.
>
> Any comments would be welcome,
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>



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Dear Steve, Alan, Klaus, LF Group,

Thanks for the comments. This calibration method is a bit fiddly in terms of 
doing the calculations, but I think it is simpler than W1TAG's Loran 
technique as far as making the frequency measurements goes. Also it gives 
you the receiver frequency error as well as the sound card sampling rate. I 
think the main difficulty with the Loran method is actually selecting and 
identifying  a suitable spectral line to measure the frequency of - 
especially in the UK where the received Loran signal is "dual rated" with 
interleaved spectral components from at least 2 different GRIs in the 
demodulated signal. A lot of promising looking peaks in the display are 
actually two peaks very close together.

As with the Loran technique, it has the advantage that, as far as hardware 
is concerned, it is "something for nothing", with no additional equipment 
required (something always appealing to amateurs ;-)). If you are prepared 
to make some simple calibration hardware, the calibration process is much 
more straightforward and potentially more accurate too. I have used a 10MHz 
xtal oscillator divided down to 1kHz (2 x 'HC390) to provide an audio 
calibration signal. The harmonics of the 1kHz signal can be compared with 
198kHz etc. using the RX and soundcard with spectrogram software - in this 
way, the calibrator frequency can easily be set to well within 1ppm. In my 
case, I used a salvaged TCXO module for the 10MHz, which is stable enough to 
provide in-band 1kHz marker pips for checking the receiver calibration too.

I don't know why the WOLF frequency calibration utility only works within 
+/- 1Hz. The trouble is, if the offset is outside that range, it gives you a 
sensible-looking value that is actually wrong. So it is important to check 
the audio frequency on the WOLF spectrum display to make sure it is within 
the right limits.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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This evening and overnight I shall be running my little 500kHz WSPR beacon
in its "original" state (ERP around 6uW) before I start mods to the TX and
the antenna, hopefully resulting in stronger signals. With 5 different
stations reporting me I am hopeful of a few more before getting stuck in.

Please take a listen and do let me know if you spot me.

Thanks everyone
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Roger G3XBM

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Hi Roman,
Thanks for the report

Peter, G3LDO
> Hi Peter!
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> Looking 501.1 ? Right?
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Nice capture, thank you Henny!

-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1




2009/10/5 henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>:
> Hi Warren,LF
> Capture XGJ,
> Henny pa3cpm
> best 73s
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden
> verzonden:
> XGJ 05-10.jpg


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Hello Walter,


> DI2AG is now in WSPR. TX QRG 505.090, Dial 503.590. Pwr 0.5W ERP.
> Please listen to my beacon.
> =A0
> 73=A0=A0 Walter=A0=A0=A0 DI2AG / DJ2LF

First decode just now :-)

1940 -25  2.9   0.505087  0 DI2AG JN59 27

@Marco: good luck in copying Walter!


--=20
vy 73 + gd DX,

Michael


RX: ICOM R75, SDR-IQ, Perseus
Antenna: Wellbrook ALA 1530, Mini-Whip
Location: Roschbach, Germany N 49=B015' E 8=B007' / Locator JN49BF

ENDBH & NANDBH editor

http://ndbchangeblog.blogspot.com
http://lwca.org/miscdocs/oexner/2009NDBinfo.zip


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Hi Alan,

    Glad to hear that you are well, looking forward to the return of
the propagation report!

--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
               WD2XGJ
               WD2XSH/23
               WE2XEB/2
               WE2XGR/1

On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Alan Melia <alan.melia@btinternet.com> wro=
te:
> Hi Warren thanks for your concern....yes I am fine if somewhat overworke=
d at
> present, and I have also been running up a new computer so having to
> transfer all the apps....I promise I will get it up and running again
> soon....
>
> Thanks and Best Wishes
> Alan G3NYK
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
> To: "rsgb_lf_group" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
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>
>
>> I have noted that Alan Melia has not updated his propagation =A0report
>> since the 7th of July!
>> Hope all is well with Alan!
>>
>>
>> --
>> 73 Warren K2ORS
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XGJ
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XSH/23
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XEB/2
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hallo hanny!
 thanks fer  jpg
 73 de ossi
oe5odl

henny van elst schrieb:
> Hi LF,
> Capture OE5ODL?
> Henny pa3cpm
> 73s
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden 
> verzonden:
> OE5ODL 31-10.jpg
>
> Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen 
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> toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt 
> weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.
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Richard,

there are discussions about the "true value" of some WSJT modes as 
they seem to use (or at least to have access to) a call database.
But I though that WSPR does not use this database.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

At 21:02 25/10/2009, you wrote:
>Has anyone else noticed how wspr seems to "guess" at callsigns and
>locators? I have noticed that more dodgy decodes have the right format
>than I would have expected by chance.
>
>73
>
>Richard
>G3CWI



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=A0
Hi LF
=A0
500kc/s CW came alive today at this location mid morning to around lunch=
 time.
=A0
Stations heard:- G3xiz =3D M0jxm =3D G3kev =3D Gw3uep =3D M0khw =3D =A0G7n=
ks.all fb.
=A0
Ei0cf active but not heard (deaf RX) here in io91ux North Herts.but was wo=
rked by G3xiz.. =A0=A0
=A0
73 petefmt
=A0


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<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal>Hi LF</DIV>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></DIV>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal>500kc/s CW came alive=
 today at this location mid morning to around lunch time.</DIV>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></DIV>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal>Stations heard:- G3xiz=
 =3D M0jxm =3D G3kev =3D Gw3uep =3D M0khw =3D &nbsp;G7nks.all fb.</DIV>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;</DIV>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal>Ei0cf active but not he=
ard (deaf RX) here in io91ux North Herts.but was worked by G3xiz.. <SPAN=
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Hi Niels!
looking 502.0 grabbers started ON.
PSE QRSS-3 if possible.
RN3AGC copy you 569
Inaudible into my location.


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Hi Jim,
Thanks for your report.

Not sure yet on a cause of PA fail, just 1 of the PA pair went down,
probably nothing to worry about but I am keeping a watchful eye on the
meters.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.


2009/10/11 James Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.net>

>  Hi Gary
>
>
>
> U r audible in IO92ub at abt S5 peaking to S7 (503.6) on my IC735 and
>  poor/average invtd L.   Looking on the traces on HRD/DM780 I can see your
> dashes and dots.  There is quite a bit of QRN here tonight
>
>
>
> With best regards
>
>
>
>
>
> *Jim*
>
>
>
>
>
> Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS
>
>
>   ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:
> owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] *On Behalf Of *Gary - G4WGT
> *Sent:* 11 October 2009 19:12
> *To:* Rsgb_Lf_Group
> *Subject:* LF: 503.6kHz Test
>
>
>
> Hi LF,
>
>
>
> I am testing my Class D Tx after a PA fail yesterday.
>
> Frequency 503.6kHz
>
> QRS03 at 5 minute intervals & CW ID.
>
> 1 watt ERP.
>
>
>
> 73
>
>
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.
>

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Hi Jim,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for your report.</div><div><br></div><di=
v>Not sure yet on a cause of PA fail, just 1 of the PA pair went down, pro=
bably nothing to worry about but I am keeping a watchful eye on the meters=
.</div>
<div><br></div><div>73</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.</di=
v><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/11 James Cowburn <span=
 dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:james.cowburn@virgin.net">james.cowburn=
@virgin.net</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">









<div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple">

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Hi Gary</span></=
font></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">=A0</span></font=
></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">U r audible in=
 IO92ub at abt S5 peaking to
S7 (503.6) on my IC735 and =A0poor/average invtd L. =A0=A0Looking on the=
 traces on
HRD/DM780 I can see your dashes and dots. =A0There is quite a bit of QRN=
 here
tonight</span></font></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">=A0</span></font=
></p>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">With best regard=
s</span></font><font color=3D"navy"><span style=3D"color:navy"></span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" color=3D"navy" face=3D"Times New=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" color=3D"navy" face=3D"Times New=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><strong><b><font size=3D"6" color=3D"navy" face=3D"=
Freestyle Script"><span style=3D"font-size:24.0pt;font-family:&quot;Freest=
yle Script&quot;;color:navy">Jim</span></font></b></strong><font color=3D"=
navy"><span style=3D"color:navy"></span></font></p>


<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" color=3D"navy" face=3D"Times New=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" color=3D"navy" face=3D"Times New=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Dr. James Cowbur=
n G7NKS</span></font><font color=3D"navy"><span style=3D"color:navy"></spa=
n></font></p>


<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" color=3D"navy" face=3D"Times New=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Tahoma"><span style=3D"=
font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font><=
/b><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Tahoma"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-f=
amily:Tahoma">
<a href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank">ow=
ner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a> [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_=
lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank">owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.=
org</a>] <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Gary=
 - G4WGT<br>

<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> 11 October 2009 19:12=
<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Rsgb_Lf_Group<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> LF: 503.6kHz Test<=
/span></font></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:12.0pt">=A0</span></font></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:12.0pt">Hi LF,</span></font></p>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:12.0pt">=A0</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:12.0pt">I am testing my Class D Tx after a PA fail yesterd=
ay.</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:12.0pt">Frequency 503.6kHz</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:12.0pt">QRS03 at 5 minute intervals &amp; CW ID.</span></f=
ont></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:12.0pt">1 watt ERP.</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:12.0pt">=A0</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:12.0pt">73</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:12.0pt">=A0</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:12.0pt">Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.</span></font></p>

</div>

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Hi Warren,lf
capture XGJ,
Henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
XGJ 02-10.jpg

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Warren,lf</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>capture XGJ,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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Hello LF'ers,
QRV RCV today WSPR-beacons on 500 kHz (503850+/-) till the morning.
Also QRSS3 above frequency 502.350. If someone is going to work in QRSS3-mode,
please inform your frequency.

73 Andrey


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Hi Paul-Henrik and Graham
=A0
Yes very depressing for us with the potentilal problems=A0from "new techno=
logy".=20
I have to do as Graham says find a quiet spot and exploit that if=A0I can=
 find one.
=A0
Well it looks like conditions are on the up for the winter season so may=
 be it will help get better signals from each other. If I make any great=
 breakthroughs with my noise issue rest assured =A0I will broadcast it.
=A0
In the meantime thanks for your interest and info.
=A0
BTW I intend to try some late night QRSS from a qrp 137kc/s TX when our po=
stal service starts to play the game again. I have a 137.77 xtal stuck=A0i=
n the post right now..
=A0
73 all petefmt

--- On Mon, 12/10/09, Paul-Henrik <phl@netikka.fi> wrote:


From: Paul-Henrik <phl@netikka.fi>
Subject: LF: ADSL noise Q for petefmt
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Monday, 12 October, 2009, 5:35 PM


Hello Pete, LF

> Well I can only conclude it is ADSL because it is
> just raising the noise floor it is=A0very subtle not really identifiable=
 like
> say TV LTB, it's a mush. Frame ants help a bit but not as sensitive at=
 the LW
> by a mile.

> 73 petefmt

I'm also plagued by a "not really identifiable" mush-like noisefloor. In=
 my case
it is not affecting RX on 500kHz badly, at least I seem to hear you guys=
 pretty
well and daytime the band sounds pretty fine. Here the problems start in=
 the
high end of the MW BC band and extends up to about 2600kHz with a constant
level. Above 2600kHz it slowly drops off and at 3000kHz it is more or less
gone.

The noise has no real characteristic, it is like a constant 24/7/365 white=
 noise
(S7 on IC-718 with inverted-L antenna) and I can not D/F it on any of my=
 loops.

I have even disconnected all incoming mains and phone lines to the house=
 just
above earth level and ran the radio from a battery but it is still there..=
.

I have tried to nail this pest many times but always failed so far. A clue=
 to
what kind of technology that could cause white noise in this spectrum woul=
d be
very helpful in the battle.

Thankful for any hints.


Then a word of warning as this may soon affect many of us:

On top of this the local electric company recently installed smart billing
meters in our area running LonTalk over 4800baud FSK PLC on 66.7kHz. The=
 2'nd
harmonic sidebands of this EU approved complete engineering failure piece=
 of
crap technology are now wiping out 136kHz completely daytime... With night=
time
QRN it just about "blends in" when using a 250Hz CW filter. The signal is=
 all
over in every cm of mains wiring indoors too. At least I know my enemy in=
 this
case but being approved technology used for every household means there is=
 very
little to do but live with it.

73

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ









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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D=
"top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV>Hi Paul-Henrik and Graham</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Yes very depressing for us with the potentilal problems&nbsp;from "ne=
w technology". </DIV>
<DIV>I have to do as Graham says find a quiet spot and exploit that if&nbs=
p;I can find one.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Well it looks like conditions are on the up for the winter season so=
 may be it will help get better signals from each other. If I make any gre=
at breakthroughs with my noise issue rest assured &nbsp;I will broadcast=
 it.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>In the meantime thanks for your interest and info.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>BTW I intend to try some late night QRSS from a qrp 137kc/s TX when=
 our postal service starts to play the game again. I have a 137.77 xtal st=
uck&nbsp;in the post right now..</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73 all petefmt<BR><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 12/10/09, Paul-Henrik <I>&lt;phl=
@netikka.fi&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT:=
 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Paul-Henrik &lt;phl@netikka.fi&gt;<BR>Su=
bject: LF: ADSL noise Q for petefmt<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR=
>Date: Monday, 12 October, 2009, 5:35 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=3DplainMail>Hello Pete, LF<BR><BR>&gt; Well I can only conclude=
 it is ADSL because it is<BR>&gt; just raising the noise floor it is&nbsp;=
very subtle not really identifiable like<BR>&gt; say TV LTB, it's a mush.=
 Frame ants help a bit but not as sensitive at the LW<BR>&gt; by a mile.<B=
R><BR>&gt; 73 petefmt<BR><BR>I'm also plagued by a "not really identifiabl=
e" mush-like noisefloor. In my case<BR>it is not affecting RX on 500kHz ba=
dly, at least I seem to hear you guys pretty<BR>well and daytime the band=
 sounds pretty fine. Here the problems start in the<BR>high end of the MW=
 BC band and extends up to about 2600kHz with a constant<BR>level. Above=
 2600kHz it slowly drops off and at 3000kHz it is more or less<BR>gone.<BR=
><BR>The noise has no real characteristic, it is like a constant 24/7/365=
 white noise<BR>(S7 on IC-718 with inverted-L antenna) and I can not D/F=
 it on any of my loops.<BR><BR>I have even disconnected all incoming mains=
 and phone lines
 to the house just<BR>above earth level and ran the radio from a battery=
 but it is still there...<BR><BR>I have tried to nail this pest many times=
 but always failed so far. A clue to<BR>what kind of technology that could=
 cause white noise in this spectrum would be<BR>very helpful in the battle=
.<BR><BR>Thankful for any hints.<BR><BR><BR>Then a word of warning as this=
 may soon affect many of us:<BR><BR>On top of this the local electric comp=
any recently installed smart billing<BR>meters in our area running LonTalk=
 over 4800baud FSK PLC on 66.7kHz. The 2'nd<BR>harmonic sidebands of this=
 EU approved complete engineering failure piece of<BR>crap technology are=
 now wiping out 136kHz completely daytime... With nighttime<BR>QRN it just=
 about "blends in" when using a 250Hz CW filter. The signal is all<BR>over=
 in every cm of mains wiring indoors too. At least I know my enemy in this=
<BR>case but being approved technology used for every household means ther=
e is
 very<BR>little to do but live with it.<BR><BR>73<BR><BR>Paul-Henrik / OH1=
LSQ<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></td></tr></table><br>



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Hi LF Group
=A0
OZ8NJ CQ solid copy on 502kc/s in IO91UX S4/5 (Noise at S2) to a deaf RX=
 wid 500c/s BP. 20:17 Local 2nd Oct 2009.
=A0
73 Petefmt


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<DIV class=3DplainMail>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV class=3DplainMail>OZ8NJ CQ solid copy on 502kc/s in IO91UX S4/5 (Nois=
e at S2) to a deaf RX wid 500c/s BP. 20:17 Local 2nd Oct 2009.</DIV>
<DIV class=3DplainMail>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV class=3DplainMail>73 Petefmt</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></td></tr></table><br>



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Roger Lapthorn wrote:
>  2009-10-17 16:04  G3XBM  0.503920  -25  0  JO02dg  0.001  G0KTN  IO81ti
>  210  242
> 210kms - brilliant!!! Thanks G0KTN.
> 


Roger,

New heights now!

G3XBM 0.503937 -26 0 JO02dg 0.001 OR7T JO20ix 337

Well done,

Nothing seen here yet, but fingers crossed

John
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Hello Andrey,
the antenne is a sloper,only 14 meter,and the power 200watt,so tnx for the 
grabber again,and all the best.
henny pa3cpm
best 73s.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
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Subject: LF: Re: RN3AGC


> Hi Henny, LF!
> Henny, in the morning I have been pleasantly surprised, having seen your 
> signal.
> Last night received also F8BOJ and UA9CS.
> The next night the grabber too will work. Further till Monday it is OFF.
> Tomorrow I leave in KO86NP. The receiver there will be included every
> evening from 21.00. I hope, the air there will be purer, than in Moscow.
> I will inform results SWL when I will return, on Sunday or Monday.
> Excuse me for bad English:)
>
> 73 Andrey
>
>
>> Hi Andrey,LF,
>> TNX for the grabber,
>> antenne sloper,200 watt 2150km
>> Henny pa3cpm
>> best 73s
>
>
>


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Hi Toni,


> 18:40 UTC now calling CQ on 137.710 in QRS3, 73 de Toni

Good copy of your signal in JN49bf - cf. screenshot.


--=20
vy 73 + gd DX,

Michael


RX: ICOM R75, SDR-IQ, Perseus
Antenna: Wellbrook ALA 1530, Mini-Whip
Location: Roschbach, Germany N 49=B015' E 8=B007' / Locator JN49BF

ENDBH & NANDBH editor

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Hi LF,
Capture OE5ODL?
Henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
OE5ODL 31-10.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi LF,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Capture OE5ODL?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
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Thanks for the report John. Will continue to call for a while. 73 Toni

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I use home build on both 137 and 500
On 137 4 fets in push pull class D and on 500 1 fet in class E. Use a=
 LPF for each. I never had a problem with crud !!!!
Reliability is good especially class E when set up properly. Use a sta=
ble antenna with components adequate for the power, otherwise expect=
 PA smoke.
mal/g3kev

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Chris=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 3:11 PM
  Subject: LF: Re: Re: AF Amps at 136


  Thanks for your comments Mal, I did wonder if such an approach was=
 wise. Let's see what others have to say on the matter. I also have my=
 suspicions about FETs in class D and the level of crud that could res=
ult.
  Thanks again.
  Chris, G4AYT.
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: mal hamilton=20
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
    Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 2:49 PM
    Subject: LF: Re: AF Amps at 136


    Chris=20
    Do  not use audio amps for RF. Build a class D or E amp and operat=
e trouble free. Audio amps were tried by some in the early days but ne=
ver worked properly.=20
    Read the horror stories of yesteryears about using audio amps for=
 RF applications. Buckets of burnt out FETS.
    73 De Mal/g3kev

      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Chris=20
      To: RSGB LF Group=20
      Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 2:13 PM
      Subject: LF: AF Amps at 136


      Hi All,
      Just started constructing TX for 136kHz, noticed Maplin do a Vel=
leman audio PA kit that is rated at 200W (100W RMS into 4R). OK there'=
s no mains transformer or heat sink, but reckon it's good value at =A3=
14.99. Point is the specs also say the minus 3db frequency response is=
 3Hz / 200kHz.
      The RSGB books 'LF Today' refer to using audio amps as PAs at 13=
6 with 'a few modifications'. Does anybody know where these modificati=
ons are documented? I guess there's nothing major, reduce a few cap va=
lues? Remove Zobel Network etc.?? If anyone has experience with this=
 approach I would appreciate some hints. Thanks.
      Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable.


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I use home build on both 137 and 500<=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>On 137 4 fets in push pull class D an=
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!!!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Reliability is good especially class=
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properly. Use a stable antenna with components adequate for the power,=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for your comments Mal, I did=
 wonder if=20
  such an approach was wise. Let's see what others have to say on the=
 matter. I=20
  also have my suspicions about FETs in class D and the level of crud=
 that=20
  could&nbsp;result.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks again.</FONT></DIV>
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f_group@blacksheep.org       href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o=
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Do&nbsp; not use audio amps for=
 RF. Build a=20
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Read the horror stories of yester=
years about=20
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 De Mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 18,=
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      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: AF Amps at=
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      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi All,</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just started constructing TX fo=
r 136kHz,=20
      noticed Maplin do a Velleman audio PA kit that is rated at 200W=
 (100W RMS=20
      into 4R). OK there's no mains transformer or heat sink, but reck=
on it's=20
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 to using=20
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y know=20
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g major,=20
      reduce a few cap values? Remove Zobel Network etc.?? If anyone=
 has=20
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      Thanks.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable.</FONT=
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Tnx Vern nw qso sq7mpj. pse call now de mal/g3kev

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> mal hamilton wrote:
>
>> Vern
>> Nw active QRS3 and CW on 502.57 if that is any help.
>> VE1JG has often hrd me in the past.
>> 73 de mal/g3kev
>
> Dear Mal,
> i am calling you on 7033kc  and qsx on 502.57kc in qrss3
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>  73 de Piotr, sq7mpj
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73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1

2009/10/11 henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>:
> Hi Warren and ALL,
> Capture XGJ
> Henny pa3cpm
> best 73s
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden
> verzonden:
> XGJ 11-10.jpg


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On 5 Oct 2009 at 21:09, James Cowburn wrote:

> OZ8NJ Niels in QSO with G3XPU  Clive at my loc io92ub between 20.30 BST
> and 21.00 BST both 577

577????? They were both 579, beautiful tone, here in IO91PJ Bracknell.

Dave

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Hello Niels, thanks for your reply!

Well actually I am very interested in 500 kHz, it is a new band with
surprising effects.

I am often monitoring WSPR signals and yesterday I decoded OR7T with=
 50 mW
ERP!

It is a pity that this band is not permitted in Germany with the excep=
tion
of beacon-station, and they have to pay for that=85it is crazy. Well=
 let us
hope that we in DL can also enjoy this interesting band in the next co=
uple
of years.

=20

Thanks again, gd dx on 500 kHz and best 73=20

=20

de Gerhard  //  DK6NI

=20

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20

=20

=20

=20

  _____ =20

Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von niels rudbe=
rg
j=F8rgensen
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 22. Oktober 2009 12:22
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: Re: AW: MF ACTY / Reports from DK6NI

=20

Hello Gerhard/DK6NI!

I wonder whether I forgot to acknowledge your report

on signals of Oct. 6th. If so, I apologize!

So thank you very much. I do hope to meet=20

you on 500 kHz some time in the future.

73

Niels/OZ8NJ+

=20

----- Original Message -----=20

From: Beckmann, <mailto:beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de>  Gerhard=20

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20

Cc: 'mal <mailto:g3kevmal@talktalk.net>  hamilton' ; niels@oz8nj.dk ;
'Finbar' <mailto:beachwood@eircom.net> =20

Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 10:22 PM

Subject: LF: AW: MF ACTY / Reports from DK6NI

=20

Hello Finbar, Niels, Mal, Hallo LF / MF;

=20

Received following calls on MF (501.7 kHz) in CW-Mode:

=20

ON8NJ,            Niels:               5 5 9;

EI0CF,              Finbar:              3 3 9; but 100% readable!

G3KEV             Mal:                 4 4 9

=20

vy 73 de Gerhard  //  DK6NI  (JN59LN)

=20

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>He=
llo Niels, thanks for
your reply!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We=
ll actually I am very
interested in 500 kHz, it is a new band with surprising effects.<o:p><=
/o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I=
 am often monitoring
WSPR signals and yesterday I decoded OR7T with 50 mW ERP!<o:p></o:p></=
span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-right:95.7pt'><font size=3D2 colo=
r=3Dnavy  face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:Arial;  color:navy'>It is a pity that this band is not permi=
tted in <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:country-region   w:st=3D"on">Germa=
ny</st1:country-region></st1:place> with the exception of
beacon-station, and they have to pay for that&#8230;it is crazy. Well=
 let us
hope that we in DL can also enjoy this interesting band in the next co=
uple of
years.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-right:95.7pt'><font size=3D2 colo=
r=3Dnavy  face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:Arial;  color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-right:95.7pt'><font size=3D2 colo=
r=3Dnavy  face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:Arial;  color:navy'>Thanks again, gd dx on 500 kHz and best=
 73 <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-right:95.7pt'><font size=3D2 colo=
r=3Dnavy  face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:Arial;  color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-right:95.7pt'><font size=3D2 colo=
r=3Dnavy  face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:Arial;  color:navy'>de Gerhard=A0 //=A0 DK6NI<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-right:95.7pt'><font size=3D2 colo=
r=3Dnavy  face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:Arial;  color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-right:95.7pt'><font size=3D2 colo=
r=3Dnavy  face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:Arial;  color:navy'>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =A0<o:p></o:p></span>=
</font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-right:95.7pt'><font size=3D2 colo=
r=3Dnavy  face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:Arial;  color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o=
:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New Rom=
an"><span  lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;</=
span></font><span  lang=3DEN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><fon=
t size=3D3  face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>

<hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter tabindex=3D-1>

</span></font></div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-G=
B  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Von:=
</span></font></b><font  size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-GB sty=
le=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:Pe=
rsonName>
[mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
</st1:PersonName>]
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Im Auftrag von </span></b>niels ru=
dbe</span></font><font  size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>rg j=F8rgensen<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Donnerstag,=
 22. Oktober
2009 12:22<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:s=
t=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> LF: Re: AW: MF=
 ACTY /
Reports from DK6NI</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size:  12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt;  font-family:Arial'>Hello Gerhard/DK6NI!</span></font><o:p=
></o:p></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt;  font-family:Arial'>I wonder whether I forgot to acknowled=
ge your report</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt;  font-family:Arial'>on signals of Oct. 6th. If so, I apolo=
gize!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt;  font-family:Arial'>So thank you very much. I do hope to=
 meet </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt;  font-family:Arial'>you on 500 kHz some time in the future=
.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt;  font-family:Arial'>73</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt;  font-family:Arial'>Niels/OZ8NJ+</span></font><o:p></o:p><=
/p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size:  12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;  margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:=
0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt;  font-family:Arial'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:=
p></span></font></p>

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<div style=3D'font-color:black'>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=3D2 fa=
ce=3DArial><span  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-wei=
ght:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font  size=3D2 face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a  href=3D"mailto:beckman=
n.erlangen@freenet.de" title=3D"beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de">Beckmann=
,
Gerhard</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:10.0pt;  font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font><=
/b><font size=3D2  face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-f=
amily:Arial'> <a  href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" title=
=3D"rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:10.0pt;  font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></font><=
/b><font size=3D2  face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-f=
amily:Arial'> <a  href=3D"mailto:g3kevmal@talktalk.net" title=3D"g3kev=
mal@talktalk.net">'mal
hamilton'</a> ; <a href=3D"mailto:niels@oz8nj.dk" title=3D"niels@oz8nj=
.dk">niels@oz8nj.dk</a>
; <a href=3D"mailto:beachwood@eircom.net" title=3D"beachwood@eircom.ne=
t">'Finbar'</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:10.0pt;  font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font=
></b><font size=3D2  face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:Arial'> Tuesday, October
06, 2009 10:22 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:10.0pt;  font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></f=
ont></b><font size=3D2  face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:Arial'> LF: AW: MF ACTY /
Reports from DK6NI<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size:  12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hello Finbar,=
 Niels, Mal, <st1:PersonName  w:st=3D"on">Hallo</st1:PersonName> LF /=
 MF;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Re=
ceived following calls
on MF (501.7 kHz) in CW-Mode:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o=
:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>ON8NJ,&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Niels:&nbsp;
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p; 5 5 9;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>EI0CF,
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;
Finbar:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
3 3 9; but 100% readable!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>G3KEV
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Mal:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
4 4 9<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>vy 73 de Gerha=
rd&nbsp; //&nbsp;
DK6NI&nbsp; (JN59LN)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Richard Newstead wrote:
> 
> Just downloaded wspr. I have the dial set at 502.4 but nothing is 
> decoding. Time is set accurately. Any ideas?
> 

Richard, LF,

First steps:

Under "Setup" -> "Options" ensure you've changed the callsign to your 
own (many new users appear in the database as K1JT!) and put in the 
correct Locator.

If you have multiple soundcards you might need to observe the DOS box 
that starts with the prog and make sure the correct one is selected. If 
necessary you can make the selection, by choosing from the noted 
soundcard input/output reference numbers from the DOS box, under "Setup" 
-> "Options".

If you're going to upload spots or want a proper record of the observed 
frequencies, then for MF/LF you need to select "Band" -> "Other" and 
enter 0.5024 in the Dial Freq box.

WSPR works on 2-minute timeslots, with stations transmitting on a random 
basis. Some slots will have no signals at all...

Maks sure you've clicked in the "RX" radio button and that on the next 
even minute edge that there is a green "Receiving" indicator at the 
lower right corner.

Once it's receiveing you can adjust the audio level to get the lower 
left corner "RX Noise" to be close to "0dB" for best decoding performance.

The waterfall updates at the end of each transmit period (at 1'54) then 
there's 6 seconds if "Idle" before the next cycle starts at the next 
even minute edge.

Timing is important - both the absoute PC clock time and the soundcard 
sampling rate. Any significant errors here will reduce the decoding ability.

Once everything is configured right then tick the "Upload Spots" box to 
let us all see what you're receiving.


Hope this is enough to get some decodes. JNT, WGT and BHZ should be 
copyable from Macclesfield, I'd guess. Gus is generally strong everywhere!

Cheers,

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Shetland


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Hi Jim, LF,
Thank you for the plot & your observations. I have downloaded the plot to
study later.

I had not realised until after the PA FET failure on Saturday night that the
LPF toroids were very hot & need to be upgraded if I am going to run that
level of power again (5 watts ERP about 4 Amps antenna current). I must also
check the matching transformer toroids at the base of the antenna if that is
getting hot also, I may look into the alternative matching (tapped coil)
which you provided documentation & a spreadsheet for a while ago.

Keep up the good work, I am sure that we all appreciate your input, time &
efforts devoted to the hobby.

Cheers,

Gary - G4WGT.





2009/10/11 James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>

> Dear Gary, LF Group,
>
> This is what the signal looks like for about 11/2 hours up to 2200utc. The
> red signal is G4WGT, the yellow one is G4JNT's WSPR beacon. The blue line is
> the noise level scaled to about 300Hz bandwidth, to give an idea of the
> audible strength as a CW signal. The plot settings are not ideal to show
> variations in signal level - there are actually short periods where the
> signal fades to inaudibility that don't show up here, but it gives a
> reasonable idea.
>
> G4WGT I think must be mainly sky wave here so presumably the fading is due
> to  different sky-wave paths.  G4JNT is a very stable ground wave signal
> here during the day, so I imagine the fading here is due to the combination
> of ground wave and sky wave.
>
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>

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Hi Jim, LF,<div><br></div><div>Thank you for the plot &amp; your observati=
ons. I have downloaded the plot to study later.</div><div><br></div><div>I=
 had not realised until after the PA FET failure on Saturday night that th=
e LPF toroids were very hot &amp; need to be upgraded if I am going to run=
 that level of power again (5 watts ERP about 4 Amps antenna current). I=
 must also check the matching transformer toroids at the base of the anten=
na if that is getting hot also, I may look into the alternative matching=
 (tapped coil) which you provided documentation &amp; a spreadsheet for a=
 while ago.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Keep up the good work, I am sure that we all appreciat=
e your input, time &amp; efforts devoted to the hobby.</div><div><br></div=
><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT.</div><div><br></div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009=
/10/11 James Moritz <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:james.moritz@b=
topenworld.com">james.moritz@btopenworld.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote=
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id;padding-left:1ex;">
Dear Gary, LF Group,<br>
<br>
This is what the signal looks like for about 11/2 hours up to 2200utc. The=
 red signal is G4WGT, the yellow one is G4JNT&#39;s WSPR beacon. The blue=
 line is the noise level scaled to about 300Hz bandwidth, to give an idea=
 of the audible strength as a CW signal. The plot settings are not ideal=
 to show variations in signal level - there are actually short periods whe=
re the signal fades to inaudibility that don&#39;t show up here, but it gi=
ves a reasonable idea.<br>

<br>
G4WGT I think must be mainly sky wave here so presumably the fading is due=
 to =A0different sky-wave paths. =A0G4JNT is a very stable ground wave sig=
nal here during the day, so I imagine the fading here is due to the combin=
ation of ground wave and sky wave.<div>
<div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
Cheers, Jim Moritz<br>
73 de M0BMU <br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>

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Hello Toni many thanx for yur call but i have difficults to receive you  
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just decoded OR7T at 2210 on .503867


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Mal,
If here there was no this svc-station, your qrss3-signal would be visible also in the afternoon :)
For certain.

73 Andrey

> 
> Andrey
> I can not see any problem my signal is vy clear and strong on ur GRABBER 
> tonite
> tnx de mal/g3kev
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
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> 
> 
>> Mal,
>> Your signal here is almost in the centre of a spectrum of powerful 
>> broadband SVC-station.
>> It is a pity that you do not have possibility to replace frequency...
>>
>> 73 Andrey
>>
>>
>>> Andrey can see my sig solid copy on ur GRABBER
>>> TNX MAL
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:36 PM
>>> Subject: LF: Re: Re: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Mal,
>>>> I have already switched on the grabber on your frequency.
>>>> The grabber will work on 500 khz to ~21z....
>>>>
>>>> In the night from 1.30 till 2.45 observed someone's wspr-signals on
>>>> 503850.
>>>> The signals was not decoded.
>>>>
>>>> 73 Andrey
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Andrey
>>>>> Pse look at 502.57 starting at 1800 utc CW and QRS3
>>>>> De mal/g3kev
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
>>>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 6:45 PM
>>>>> Subject: LF: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello LF'ers,
>>>>>> QRV RCV today WSPR-beacons on 500 kHz (503850+/-) till the morning.
>>>>>> Also QRSS3 above frequency 502.350. If someone is going to work in
>>>>>> QRSS3-mode,
>>>>>> please inform your frequency.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73 Andrey



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Hello LF,
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73 Andrey


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So far nil sigs 137.7
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Hi John

And I am Dr. QRPp!!  You've tagged me 3 times so far.  My earth improvements
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Cheers

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as well as its attachments and delete the whole from any computer."

 
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Roger Lapthorn wrote:
> This evening and overnight I shall be running my little 500kHz WSPR beacon
> in its "original" state (ERP around 6uW) before I start mods to the TX and
> the antenna, hopefully resulting in stronger signals.

I'm game for a try, looking now and will leave it running overnight. 
Already got G7NKS!

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John
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----- Original Message ----- 
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tu Nicolas,

73s henny cpm
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  Hello Henny captured last evening.
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  73 de F4DTL Nicolas


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  <DIV>Hello Henny captured last evening.</DIV>
  <DIV>The stong signal it's F8BOJ.</DIV>
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Dear LF
Very good copy this night: DI2AM, OK0EMW, SK6RUD.
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Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI

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USA505-514Up to 1200W*
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Jim,

maybe a method 3:
Measure the field strength of a strong TX (eg. DCF39 for 137kHz). 
This can be done using a small calibrated RX as describe by PA0SE.
Based on the you can calculate the antenna voltage that a lossless 
isotropic antenna should deliver to its termination resistance. Let's 
call this U1.
Match the antenna properly to the frequency of teh strong TX and 
terminate it properly.
Now measure the antenna voltage delivered by the strong TX. Let's call this U2.
Based on the ratio of U1/U2 the "efficiency "(in dBi) of the antenna 
system can be calculated, and thus for a given output power you know 
the E(I)RP.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


At 21:57 7/10/2009, you wrote:
>Dear David, LF Group,
>
>There are basically two ways of determining ERP, briefly:
>
>Method 1 is to calculate the radiation resistance (Rrad) of your antenna,
>which can be done using various text-book formulae, or using antenna
>simulation software like EZNEC or similar. Then you measure the RF current
>flowing in the antenna (Iant). The ERP is then Iant^2 x Rrad x 1.8 (1.8 is
>the directivity of electrically small vertical or loop antennas, which in
>practice is what all amateur 136kHz antennas are).
>
>Method 2 is to measure the field strength some km from the antenna. The ERP
>is then (E x d)^2 /49, where E is the field strength, d distance in metres.
>This requires a calibrated antenna and measuring receiver, so is more
>complicated to do.
>
>Method 1 is simpler to do, but yields ERP results that tend to be lower than
>those obtained by method 2. This is thought to be due to various combined
>environmental effects on the antenna, which are not accounted for in the
>simple calculation. So to get a more accurate and definitive figure, you
>need to do method 2, but as far as compliance with licence conditions is
>concerned, method 1 is a conservative way of checking.
>
>Good luck in your efforts!
>
>Cheers, Jim Moritz
>73 de M0BMU
>
>----- Original Message -----
>but From: "David Weinreich" <David.Weinreich@globalstar.com>
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>Peter,
>
>As an interested observer from the other side of the pond, how do you
>determine that you are close to the ERP limit?? I'd be interested in knowing
>as I am trying to do some pro-bono work for the ARRL on getting use of 137
>kHz here in the USA.
>
>Tnx & 73,
>
>David Weinreich
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hallo claude thanks fer nice qso es bic here .
your signal was also strong .between as there are the swiz and austrian 
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i think its not so easy like to transmit over the saltwater ?
so tonight i try to reach  birmingham and moskau 73 de ossi

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hallo claude thanks fer nice qso es bic here .<br>
your signal was also strong .between as there are the swiz and austrian
moutains, <br>
i think its not so easy like to transmit over the saltwater ?<br>
so tonight i try to reach&nbsp; birmingham and moskau 73 de ossi<br>
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Claude Berthebaud schrieb:
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Thanks for the great capture Andrey,

best 73s
Henny pa3cpm.
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> Hello Henny, Nicolas, LF,
> Capture last night at 0.10z. The best copy.
>
> 73 Andrey
>
>
>> Tu Nicolas,
>> best 73s
>> henny cpm
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>>  Hello Henny,good luck for the russian's grabbers.
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>>  F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP
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>>  RX : Icom IC756 Pro
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Dear Members of the Group,


since years I use a very simple method of measuring 
the output sample rate of the soundcard:

(1) Choose an LF frequency normal such as HBG, 
    MSF or DCF77

(2) Generate a sinewave on the soundcard output 
    with a harmonic very near to the frequency 
    normal. Use maximum volme.
    Example: For DCF77 on 77500 Hz generate 
    (77500 +- 1.5)/19 = 4078.868 or 4079.026 Hz 
    to get a signal 1.5 Hz apart from the normal 
    (if the samplerate has the nominal value).

(3) Use a diode or transistor to distort the sound 
    output and couple it appropriately to your LF 
    antenna such that the harmonic has similar 
    amplitude as the frequency normal in your 
    receiver.

(4) Change output frequency such that the frequency 
    normal lies symmetrically between both harmonics 
    (i.e. use both frequencies of the example in 
    sequence).

(5) Sample the SSB receiver output, compute the 
    spectrum, and identify the peaks. Usually the 
    generated peaks are far from what one expects. 
    So the audio frequencies have to be improved 
    iteratively. 

The accuracy only is limited by the time interval 
used for the measurements. With intervals of 10 
minutes the accuracy is about 0.001 Hz. That is 
enough to measure the drift of the samplerates.
 
I have some JPGs with measured spectra which will 
be sent on request.


73 de Klaus, DJ5HG
 



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what about these:

  2009-10-29 20:20   DI2AG   0.503899   -25   0   JN59no   0.5   K1JT   
  FN20   6469   297
  2009-10-29 19:58   DI2AG   0.503899   -26   0   JN59no   0.5   K1JT   
  FN20   6469   297

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>:

> John P-G wrote:
>> Walter
>>
>> I've just started monitoring WSPR at 19:54UTC on 503.590 dial from Shetland
>>
>> I hope to see your sigs soon. Spots are being uploaded to wspr.net
>
>
> 1954 -23  2.5   0.505089  0 DI2AG JN59 27
> 1956 -28  2.6   0.505089  0 DI2AG JN59 27
> 1958 -27  2.7   0.505089 -1 DI2AG JN59 27
> 2006 -21  2.7   0.505089  0 DI2AG JN59 27
>
> Nice to see your signals so soon Walter.
>
> WSPR.NET shows the distance as 1428km
>
>
> Regards,
>
> John
> GM4SLV
> IP90gg
> Shetland
>
>
>
>




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hi Gus es lf
27 oct 2009 22:55utc good readable cw /ssb q5 now for abt 3/4 hour here in=
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73 pete m0fmt


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Does anyone recognize this by frequency ? There is evidence of
a character before it, but too weak to make out. Popped up out
of nowhere, and disappeared just as quick. 2 hours before sunset.

73 :

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 185.29893 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


      

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Hi Pete.
Having a weak DSL signal, how does your 500kHz TX output affect the DS=
L synchronisation?. I am in a similar position, and my 500kHz TX 100mW=
 ERP cw causes complete loss of synchronisation dispite copious use of=
 common mode filters.

73.
Ken
M0KHW
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: M0FMT=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 1:36 PM
  Subject: RE: LF: MOFMT ADSL noise


        Hi LF group

        Thank you Jim and Laurence for you interest and information.

        Lifting this from Wikipedia ....... "With standard ADSL (annex=
 A), the band from 25.875 kHz to 138 kHz is used for upstream communic=
ation, while 138 kHz =E2=80=93 1104 kHz is used for downstream communi=
cation" .......=20
        Jim is right about 136 and I find the band unaffected it is in=
 a dead spot in the ADSL spectrum, assuming its clean of course.
        I have considered filters that are advertised but since we hav=
e a weak ADSL signal here, easily knocked out by Amateur TX on virtual=
ly any band I felt that a filter would make things worse in that respe=
ct. The reasoning being that a filter notch sitting right in the middl=
e of the down stream channel would adversely affect the down load time=
s which are only a tad better than dial up here. I may make something=
 and try it, thanks for putting that idea into the mix.

        It doesn't help that my antenna runs above the BT line (at rig=
ht angles) to my neighbours place but having said that trials at the=
 furthest distance from the line using a frame ant and battery run RX=
 things were no better. However I did not earth the LW that I will try=
 next time.

        Thanks to all for the inputs I have filed them for reference.

        73 petefmt

        --- On Wed, 14/10/09, Laurence BY3A-KL1X China <hellozerohello=
zero@hotmail.com> wrote:


          From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.c=
om>
          Subject: RE: LF: MOFMT ADSL noise
          To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
          Date: Wednesday, 14 October, 2009, 3:39 AM


          I had the same problem on 500 up in KL7 at home. I ended up=
 moving the modem to the garage where the telephone line comes out of=
 the ground and keeping the ADSL loaded wiring as short as possible -=
  then on the telephone side of the router  I connected up a pair of=
 reasonable quality of seried ADSL filters outbound for normal telepho=
ne wiring in the house. From 20 over noise I cant "see it" now as the=
 big antennae has been chocked off. I only use wireless around the pro=
perty so it wasnt an issue.
          =20
          Next job is to choke off the noise from the AC power line co=
ming out of the ground - its awful.
          =20
          relates to MTA Palmer Alaska solutions ADSL

          =20
          Laurence KL 1 X
          =20
          > From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com
          > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
          > Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:10:53 +0100
          > Subject: Re: LF: MOFMT ADSL noise
          >=20
          > Dear Pete, Paul-Henrik,
          >=20
          > M0FMT wrote:
          > ....> Well I can only conclude it is ADSL because it is ju=
st raising the=20
          > noise floor it is very subtle not really identifiable like=
 say TV LTB, it's=20
          > a mush...>
          >=20
          > I have problems with ADSL on 500kHz at my QTH - it sounds=
 like "white noise"=20
          > with no audible distinctive features I can detect. The noi=
se can be about=20
          > 10 - 20dB over the band noise here over a fairly wide band=
width in the MF=20
          > range. It does not seem to be a problem at 136k, perhaps=
 because this is in=20
          > the guard band between upstream and downstream ADSL signal=
s. It is easy to=20
          > tell if you are experiencing noise from your own ADSL conn=
ection -=20
          > disconnect the incoming phone line (probably just unpluggi=
ng the modem from=20
          > the phone socket will be enough) and there will be a reduc=
tion in noise=20
          > level. Unfortunately, there also seems to be a significant=
 level of similar=20
          > noise here from other sources, probably my neighbors' ADSL=
 via the overhead=20
          > phone lines.
          >=20
          > I have had some success with a noise-cancelling arrangemen=
t here, where the=20
          > ADSL noise is sampled using a current transformer made by=
 passing the=20
          > incoming phone line through a ferrite core, and summed wit=
h the signal from=20
          > loop antennas via a variable phase-shifting and gain-adjus=
ting network,=20
          > which is adjusted for a null in the noise. Also, moving th=
e loop around the=20
          > QTH shows some positions are better than others. Actually,=
 life is a bit=20
          > more complicated at this particular QTH, since there also=
 seems to be=20
          > wide-band noise originating as very low-level sidebands fr=
om the local=20
          > broadcast stations. This requires a second noise-cancellin=
g network to null=20
          > noise from that direction. Also, it was necessary to inser=
t a relay in=20
          > series with the loading coil to disconnect the TX antenna=
 on receive,=20
          > otherwise this coupled more noise into the receiving anten=
nas. But when it=20
          > is all adjusted properly, the overall noise level can be=
 reduced in=20
          > favourable directions by about 20dB, which is worth doing.
          >=20
          > Cheers, Jim Moritz
          > 73 de M0BMU=20
          >=20
          >=20


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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Hi Pete.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Having a weak DSL signal, how does yo=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Ken</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>M0KHW</FONT></DIV>
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        <DIV>Hi LF group</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>Thank you Jim and Laurence for you interest and informati=
on.</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>Lifting this from Wikipedia ....... "With standard ADSL=
 (annex A),=20
        the band from 25.875&nbsp;<A class=3Dmw-redirect title=3DKHz=
           href=3D"http://uk.mc281.mail.yahoo.com/wiki/KHz">kHz</A> to=
 138&nbsp;kHz=20
        is used for upstream communication, while 138&nbsp;kHz =E2=80=
=93 1104&nbsp;kHz=20
        is used for downstream communication" .......&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>Jim is right about 136 and I find the band unaffected it=
 is=20
        in&nbsp;a dead spot in the ADSL spectrum, assuming its clean=
 of=20
        course.</DIV>
        <DIV>I have considered filters that are advertised but since=
 we have a=20
        weak ADSL signal here, easily knocked out by Amateur TX on vir=
tually any=20
        band I felt that a filter would make things worse in that resp=
ect. The=20
        reasoning being that a filter notch sitting right in the middl=
e of the=20
        down stream channel would adversely affect the down load times=
 which are=20
        only a tad better than dial up here. I may make something and=
 try it,=20
        thanks for putting that idea into the mix.</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>It doesn't help that my antenna runs above the BT line (a=
t right=20
        angles)&nbsp;to my neighbours place but having said that trial=
s at the=20
        furthest distance from the line using a frame ant and battery=
 run RX=20
        things were no better. However I did not earth the LW&nbsp;tha=
t I will=20
        try next time.</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>Thanks to all for the inputs I have filed them for refere=
nce.</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>73 <SPAN>petefmt</SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>--- On <B>Wed, 14/10/09, Laurence BY3A-KL1X China=20
        <I>&lt;hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></=
DIV>
        <BLOCKQUOTE           style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px=
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          Laurence BY3A-KL1X China=20
          &lt;hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com&gt;<BR>Subject: RE: LF:=
 MOFMT ADSL=20
          noise<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Date: Wednesday=
, 14=20
          October, 2009, 3:39 AM<BR><BR>
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          I had the same problem on 500 up in KL7 at home. I ended up=
 moving=20
          the&nbsp;modem to the garage where the telephone line comes=
 out of the=20
          ground and keeping the ADSL loaded wiring as short as possib=
le -=20
          &nbsp;then on the telephone side of the router&nbsp;&nbsp;I=
 connected=20
          up a pair of reasonable quality of seried ADSL filters&nbsp;=
outbound=20
          for normal telephone wiring&nbsp;in the house. From 20 over=
 noise I=20
          cant "see&nbsp;it"&nbsp;now as the big antennae has been cho=
cked off.=20
          I only use wireless around the property so it wasnt an=20
          issue.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Next job is to choke off the noise from=
 the AC=20
          power line coming out of the ground - its awful.<BR>&nbsp;<B=
R>relates=20
          to MTA Palmer Alaska solutions ADSL<BR><BR>&nbsp;<BR>Laurenc=
e KL 1=20
          X<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&gt; From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com<BR>&g=
t; To:=20
          rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>&gt; Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009=
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          Pete, Paul-Henrik,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; M0FMT wrote:<BR>&gt; ...=
.&gt; Well=20
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 about=20
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de=20
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 a problem=20
          at 136k, perhaps because this is in <BR>&gt; the guard band=
 between=20
          upstream and downstream ADSL signals. It is easy to <BR>&gt;=
 tell if=20
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          disconnect the incoming phone line (probably just unplugging=
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From: Chris=20
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:32 AM
To: RSGB LF Group=20
Subject: LF: ERP at LF


Seems to me that measuring ERP at LF is a bit of a problem. On here I=
 have read comments referring to a stations ERP by various operators=
 : 'Estimate', 'Guess', 'Approx.', 'Reckon I'm fairly close to...', 'A=
pproaching' etc. Nobody REALLY knows exactly! Even Mike's book, 'LF To=
day - A guide to success on 136kHz', refers to certain 'estimates' hav=
ing to be made. The last sentence on the bottom of p81 just about sums=
 it up.
I don't know what the answer is, but it is clear that ERP at LF is far=
 more complex than at VHF/UHF etc. where 'full size' antennas are gene=
rally used.
Chris, G4AYT.


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HI Jeff and LF
GA Jeff big sig ihere many thanks for the qso
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Tnx Andrey
I am also qsx 7033 for any calls and QSO XBAND
De mal/g3kev

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From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
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> Hi Mal,
> I did not expect that I will see your signal in such early evening.
> capture at 18.21z
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> 73 Andrey
>
>
>> Nw qrv 502.57 CW and QRS3 as appropriate for QSO also QSX 7033 for DX 
>> QSO's
>> De Mal/g3kev
> 



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Hello Claude ,

Grabber ON for listening you !

73 Jean-Pierre F1AFJ

Claude Berthebaud a =E9crit :
> hi LF
> Beacon open 137776.20hz "boj" qrss60
> good evening..
> Claude F8boj JN16WA
>  =20

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Subject: LF: Re: Beacon "BOJ" is 10h18 UTC......no 00h 18      sorry
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Hello Claude, LF,
SWL in KO86np.. The river was the aerial:)

hi.... all
Error sorry
Beacon "BOJ" is for 10H18......UTC
137776.20 hz in QRSS 60
excuse my
Claude F8boj JN16WA

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Got this just before dawn - wasnt looking at 137 overnight but switched pr=
e dawn here in China.=20

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Dcf39/Mag are way over S9 on a quiet band so I would expect to see Eu sigs=
 with 1W ERP or around on a good day. Looks like another at 777.9 too but=
 very weak.

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ps also saw some UNID traces on 503.6khz qrss3 but 500 wasnt so good here=
 as 137kHz

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Laurence KL1 X in BY3A OM89UA China

R75 Probe at 80 ft or so.

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ps time on trace in GMT  was at end point not when sig seen.

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Got this just before dawn - wasnt looking at 137 overnight but switched pr=
e&nbsp;dawn here in China. <BR>
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Dcf39/Mag are way over S9 on a quiet band so I would expect to see Eu sigs=
 with 1W ERP or around on a good day. Looks like another at 777.9 too but=
 very weak.<BR>
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ps also saw some UNID traces on 503.6khz qrss3 but 500 wasnt so good here=
 as 137kHz<BR>
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Laurence KL1 X in BY3A OM89UA China<BR>
R75 Probe at 80 ft or so.<BR>
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ps time on trace in GMT &nbsp;was at end point not when sig seen.<BR>
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Roger,

I got a positive decode at 19:04 UTC, stake is now at 337km

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
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Onderwerp: Re: LF: Better still again on 500kHz QRPp WSPR

Roger Lapthorn wrote:
> 2009-10-17 16:04  G3XBM  0.503920  -25  0  JO02dg  0.001  G0KTN
> IO81ti 210  242 210kms - brilliant!!! Thanks G0KTN.
>
> 73s Roger G3XBM
>

Let's see if you can manage some REAL DX!

I'm watching, and will keep a lookout through the night.

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G'day Dave,

Yes - I did that calculation but came up with 500002.81 Hz - not 499993 Hz.

Still - that seems the most likely explanation as it is very stable.

Thanks.

73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)

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> 
> Or more likely the 32nd harmonic of the 15.625kHz TV line ocillator 
> rate. UK, UA and VK all use the 625 line PAL standard (though parts of 
> USSR are Secam). The line rate is actually locked to the  colour 
> subcarrier of 4.43361875 MHz which may account for the 7Hz shift at 
> 500kHz.
> 
> 73 Dave G3YMC
> 
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Hello Roger,

it depends on the QRSS "speed".
Whatever message you choose I wouldn't make it too long (in time).
Suggestion:
- for QRSS3: "G3XBM JO20DG"
- for QRSS10 "G3XBM"
- for QRSS30 or slower "XBM"

73, Rik ON7YD

At 16:18 21/10/2009, you wrote:
>Good folks,
>
>Some advice please. I am about to organise some keyer ICs for 
>beaconing in QRSS on 500kHz and 136kHz. Is there a standard message 
>format used for QRSS beaconing?
>
>I was proposing to use G3XBM JO02DG or just G3XBM . Is this OK?
>
>73s
>Roger G3XBM
>
>
>
>--
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><http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/>http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
>http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
>G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088
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Hello Roger,<br><br>
it depends on the QRSS &quot;speed&quot;.<br>
Whatever message you choose I wouldn't make it too long (in time).<br>
Suggestion:<br>
- for QRSS3: &quot;G3XBM JO20DG&quot;<br>
- for QRSS10 &quot;G3XBM&quot;<br>
- for QRSS30 or slower &quot;XBM&quot;<br><br>
73, Rik  ON7YD<br><br>
At 16:18 21/10/2009, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Good folks,<br><br>
Some advice please. I am about to organise some keyer ICs for beaconing
in QRSS on 500kHz and 136kHz. Is there a standard message format used for
QRSS beaconing? <br><br>
I was proposing to use <b>G3XBM JO02DG</b> or just <b>G3XBM</b> . Is this
OK?<br><br>
73s<br>
Roger G3XBM<br><br>
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Gm Claude,LF
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Dear all,

G3LDO could be heard again 559 in QRSS on 501,1 kHz around 21.15 UTC,
October 9th, in
eastern Bavaria, JN68GN.

Even more interesting was the CW signal of EI0CF, RST 579, from 21.17
until 21.50
UTC. At first he was in QSO on 501,9 kHz (obviously with Louis,
PA0LCE?). Then he heard G3XIZ and they moved to 503 kHz. G3XIZ could be
"estimated" too for a while, but readibility remainded very poor. 

PA0LCE could not be heard. OH1LSQ (?) was also mentioned in this CW
traffic. Sometimes reading of the CW signals was rather difficult due to
very short qsb, swallowing several letters of a word, even within the
usually rather strong transmission of EI0CF. But in general it was very
interesting to listen.

Hope condx down to Bavaria improve during the winter months.

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB


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Mal

I check your frequency. Sunset here isn't until 2230Z...what time do you 
QRT?

How about a beacon signal? ;~)

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


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> Warren
> Great propagation around EU and Russia at present on 500. I have been 
> copied in Russia and eastern EU while daylight here, also 160m is good 
> with daytime reception and QSO'S as far as the Moscow area
> Probably good to the west but not sure if anyone is monitoring in the USA 
> during evening time here.
> 73 de mal/g3kev
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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>
>>I have noted that Alan Melia has not updated his propagation  report
>> since the 7th of July!
>> Hope all is well with Alan!
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> 73 Warren K2ORS
>>                WD2XGJ
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Hello Marcin an all ,

Good copy of  SP2KDS last night  ( see picture )

73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

Marcin a =E9crit :
> Hi LF!
> Station SP2KDS will be work today,
> Operation in QRSS will start from 19:00 UTC on 137.700kHz (QRRS3) and
> 137,778kHz (QRSS60).
> Vy 73!
> Marcin SQ2BXI
>  =20

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A variometer although convenient is not the best way to resonate a LF/=
MF antenna, instead use a coil in series with the antenna wire with th=
e bottom end grounded. Tap the antenna wire down the coil for resonanc=
e/lowest swr, then tap the coax feed cable to the antenna up a few tur=
ns on the coil from ground for the perfect match, coax braid to earth=
 at bottom of coil.=20
then hit the morse key and work some DX
Mal/g3kev

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  From: Petr Mal=FD=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 9:05 AM
  Subject: LF: Variometer on eBay


  Hello all,

  Too lazy to make variometer? LF/MF-related items rarely appear on eB=
ay, here comes one:

  http://cgi.ebay.de/Variometer_W0QQitemZ110447622031QQcmdZViewItemQQp=
tZDE_TV_Video_Elektronik_Funkger%C3%A4te?hash=3Ditem19b730f78f

  73, Petr, OK1FIG


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Has anyone else noticed how wspr seems to "guess" at callsigns and 
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G'day Gary,

Well - it seems it is not specific to your grabber - any http://myweb.=
tiscali.co.uk/username address is not working from here.   The http://=
www.tiscali.co.uk link is OK.

Maybe the "myweb..." site is blocked by my ISP (or vice-versa) for som=
e reason.

It is obviously a problem for me only so 'nuff said.

Thanks for the info and help.

(Slips quietly back into the background...)

73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Gary - G4WGT=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 8:22 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers....


  Hi Steve,


  Well, I can't see any reason for the non-connect from my end, I will=
 give you my main web address & you can try from the links page (if yo=
u get in that is) :-


  http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/


  Also you could try from the links on the UK500KHZ group home page :-


  http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz


  You are correct regarding the operation of slow rate 24/7 signals,=
 the nearest to that are a few experimental EU stations a around 505.2=
00kHz but usually only using QRS03 or QRS10.


  IN VIEW OF THE PROBLEMS STEVE IS HAVING WITH MY GRABBER, WILL OTHERS=
 PLEASE TRY IT & REPORT IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS.


  73


  Gary - G4WGT.

















  2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra.com>

    G'day Gary,

    Sorry - still can't connect.   Perhaps someone else should try.

    Sorry to all for using the 'B' word - I of course meant MEPT....

    A bit of research makes me think there are no 24/7 QRSS30 or slowe=
r MEPTs operating on 500kc in the UK/EU - or at least none that I can=
 find.

    My intent was to leave ARGO going overnight here (local time) each=
 day(sic) for a period of time to see if, by some chance, I could see=
 anything this far away.

    Yours grabber is 24/7, but unfortunately for some inexplicable rea=
son I cannot see it currently.     In any case, I would still need a=
 regular MEPT with long carrier bursts, and that appears not to be the=
 case.

    Thanks for the help and info.

    73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Gary - G4WGT=20
      To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
      Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 12:55 AM
      Subject: Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers....


      Hi Steve,=20


      Although I have not been uploading captures today until now (134=
8utc) there is no problem with my site, it has been displaying a messa=
ge "Grabber Temporary Off Line" as I do my PC maintenance on a Monday=
 (hard disk backup's etc).


      You will find that some (maybe most) of the other grabbers are=
 random but mine is 24/7.


      Here is the url again just in case :-


      http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html


      73


      Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.


      2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra.com>

        G'day Gary,

        There currently seems to be a rend in the time-space continuum=
 here down under in VK-land....

        Apart from your site - for which I get a "can't connect".

        From the links on the Google site I get the following results.

        1. GM4SLV - last grab Jan 2009.
        2. CT1DRP - last grab Nov 2008.
        3. Hartmut Wolff - last grab Nov 2008.
        4. GM4ISM - can't connect.
        5. DF6NM - last grab May 2008.
        6. RN3AGC - can't connect.

        The only one that works is the http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab=
/ link.

        What am I missing ?

        73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)
          ----- Original Message -----=20
          From: Gary - G4WGT=20
          To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
          Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 8:28 PM
          Subject: Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers....


          Hi Steve,=20


          A small list of grabbers on the UK500KHZ Group web site at=
 :-


          http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers


          Also my own grabber page for the UK, EU & USA bands at :-


          http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html


          73


          Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.





          2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra.com>

            G'day All,

            In an expression of extreme optimism I am interested in ge=
tting details of 500kc beacons (preferably QRSS30 and slower) in Europ=
e.    To get real-time confirmation of on-air status I am also looking=
 for relevant local grabbers for those beacons.

            73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)=20







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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G'day Gary,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Well - it seems it is not specific to=
 your grabber=20
- any <A   href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/username">http://myweb.t=
iscali.co.uk/username</A>=20
address is not working from here.&nbsp;&nbsp; The <A   href=3D"http://=
www.tiscali.co.uk">http://www.tiscali.co.uk</A> </FONT>link is=20
OK.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Maybe the "myweb..." site is blocked=
 by my ISP (or=20
vice-versa)&nbsp;for some reason.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>It is obviously a problem for me only=
 so 'nuff=20
said.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks for the info and help.</FONT><=
/DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>(Slips quietly back into the=20
background...)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV     style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color:=
 black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dg4wgt@tiscali.co.uk href=3D"mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk">G=
ary -=20
  G4WGT</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@=
blacksheep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_l=
f_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 06, 20=
09 8:22=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: 500kc beacon=
s and=20
  grabbers....</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Hi Steve,
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Well, I can't see any reason for the non-connect from my end,=
 I will give=20
  you my main web address &amp; you can try from the links page (if yo=
u get in=20
  that is) :-</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><A     href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/">http://myw=
eb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/</A></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Also you could try from the links on the UK500KHZ group home pa=
ge=20
:-</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><A     href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz">http://=
groups.google.com/group/uk500khz</A></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>You are correct regarding the operation of slow rate 24/7 signa=
ls, the=20
  nearest to that are a few experimental EU stations a around 505.200k=
Hz but=20
  usually only using QRS03 or QRS10.</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>IN VIEW OF THE PROBLEMS STEVE IS HAVING WITH MY GRABBER, WILL=
 OTHERS=20
  PLEASE TRY IT &amp; REPORT IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS.</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>73</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Gary - G4WGT.</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><A href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz"></A><BR>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><BR><BR>
  <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A  =
   href=3D"mailto:vk2zto@djirra.com"     target=3D_blank>vk2zto@djirra=
.com</A>&gt;</SPAN><BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE     style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0p=
x 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"     class=3Dgmail_quote>
    <DIV bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G'day Gary,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Sorry - still can't connect.&nbsp=
;&nbsp;=20
    Perhaps someone else should try.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Sorry to all for using the 'B' wo=
rd - I of=20
    course meant MEPT....</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>A bit of research makes me think=
 there are no=20
    24/7 QRSS30 or slower MEPTs operating on 500kc in the UK/EU&nbsp;-=
 or at=20
    least none that I can find.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>My intent was to leave ARGO going=
 overnight=20
    here (local time) each day(sic) for a period of time to see if, by=
 some=20
    chance, I could see anything this far away.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Yours grabber is 24/7, but unfort=
unately for=20
    some inexplicable reason I cannot see it=20
    currently.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;In any case,&nbsp;I would=
 still need=20
    a regular MEPT with long carrier bursts, and that appears not to=
 be the=20
    case.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks for the help and info.</FO=
NT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)</FONT></D=
IV>
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      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B>From:</B=
> <A         title=3Dg4wgt@tiscali.co.uk href=3D"mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.=
co.uk"         target=3D_blank>Gary - G4WGT</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A         title=3Drs=
gb_lf_group@blacksheep.org         href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org"         target=3D_blank>rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A> </D=
IV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 06=
, 2009 12:55=20
      AM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: 500kc be=
acons and=20
      grabbers....</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>Hi Steve,=20
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV>Although I have not been uploading captures today until now=
 (1348utc)=20
      there is no problem with my site, it has been displaying a messa=
ge=20
      "Grabber Temporary Off Line" as I do my PC maintenance on a Mond=
ay (hard=20
      disk backup's etc).</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV>You will find that some (maybe most) of the other grabbers=
 are random=20
      but mine is 24/7.</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV>Here is the url again just in case :-</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><A href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.htm=
l"         target=3D_blank>http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber=
2.html</A></DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><A href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.htm=
l"         target=3D_blank></A>73</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.<BR><BR>
      <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A=
         href=3D"mailto:vk2zto@djirra.com"         target=3D_blank>vk2=
zto@djirra.com</A>&gt;</SPAN><BR>
      <BLOCKQUOTE         style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN=
: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"         class=3Dgmail_quote>
        <DIV bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G'day Gary,</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>There currently seems to be=
 a rend in the=20
        time-space continuum here down under in VK-land....</FONT></DI=
V>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Apart from your site - for wh=
ich I get a=20
        "can't connect".</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>From the links on&nbsp;the Go=
ogle site I=20
        get the following results.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>1. GM4SLV - last grab Jan=20
2009.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>2. CT1DRP - last grab Nov=20
2008.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>3. Hartmut Wolff - last grab=
 Nov=20
        2008.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>4. GM4ISM - can't connect.</F=
ONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>5. DF6NM - last grab May 2008=
.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>6. RN3AGC - can't connect.</F=
ONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>The only one that works is th=
e <A           href=3D"http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/" rel=3Dnofollo=
w target=3D_blank><FONT           size=3D2           face=3D"Times New=
 Roman">http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/</FONT></A>&nbsp;link.</FONT><=
/DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>What am I missing ?</FONT></D=
IV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)</FONT=
></DIV>
        <BLOCKQUOTE           style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid;=
 PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT=
: 0px"           dir=3Dltr>
          <DIV>
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=
 </DIV>
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B>From=
:</B> <A             title=3Dg4wgt@tiscali.co.uk href=3D"mailto:g4wgt@=
tiscali.co.uk"             target=3D_blank>Gary - G4WGT</A> </DIV>
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A             ti=
tle=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org             href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_=
group@blacksheep.org"             target=3D_blank>rsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org</A> </DIV>
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October=
 05, 2009=20
          8:28 PM</DIV>
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: 500k=
c beacons=20
          and grabbers....</DIV>
          <DIV><BR></DIV></DIV>
          <DIV>
          <DIV></DIV>
          <DIV>Hi Steve,=20
          <DIV><BR></DIV>
          <DIV>A small list of grabbers on the UK500KHZ Group web site=
 at=20
          :-</DIV>
          <DIV><BR></DIV>
          <DIV><A             href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/u=
k500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers"             target=3D_blank>http://group=
s.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers</A></DIV>
          <DIV><BR></DIV>
          <DIV>Also my own grabber page for the UK, EU &amp; USA bands=
 at=20
          :-</DIV>
          <DIV><BR></DIV>
          <DIV><A href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2=
.html"             target=3D_blank>http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor=
/grabber2.html</A></DIV>
          <DIV><BR></DIV>
          <DIV>73</DIV>
          <DIV><BR></DIV>
          <DIV>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.</DIV>
          <DIV><BR></DIV>
          <DIV><A             href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/u=
k500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers"             target=3D_blank></A><BR><BR>
          <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&l=
t;<A             href=3D"mailto:vk2zto@djirra.com"             target=
=3D_blank>vk2zto@djirra.com</A>&gt;</SPAN><BR>
          <BLOCKQUOTE             style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid=
; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"             class=3Dgm=
ail_quote>G'day All,<BR><BR>In an expression of extreme=20
            optimism I am interested in getting details of 500kc beaco=
ns=20
            (preferably QRSS30 and slower) in Europe. &nbsp; &nbsp;To=
 get=20
            real-time confirmation of on-air status I am also looking=
 for=20
            relevant local grabbers for those beacons.<BR><BR>73 Steve=
 VK2ZTO=20
            (VK2XV)=20
        <BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>=
</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></D=
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Hi Henny, LF!
Henny, in the morning I have been pleasantly surprised, having seen your signal.
Last night received also F8BOJ and UA9CS.
The next night the grabber too will work. Further till Monday it is OFF.
Tomorrow I leave in KO86NP. The receiver there will be included every
evening from 21.00. I hope, the air there will be purer, than in Moscow.
I will inform results SWL when I will return, on Sunday or Monday.
Excuse me for bad English:)

73 Andrey


> Hi Andrey,LF,
> TNX for the grabber,
> antenne sloper,200 watt 2150km
> Henny pa3cpm
> best 73s




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Nothing so far Roger , just coming up to  2400 z  about to close=20

G ..=20


From: Roger Lapthorn=20
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 6:34 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz G4NT WSPR beaconing


Let us hope you manage to hear my signal too later in the evening Clem=
ens.

73s
Roger G3XBM


2009/10/25 Clemens Paul <cpaul@gmx.net>

         2009-10-25 18:00   G4JNT   0.503850   +12   0   IO90iv   0.2=
   DL4RAJ   JN68kj   1055   100 =20


  This evening looks promising.

  73
  Clemens
  DL4RAJ



--=20
-------------------------------------------------------------
http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088



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No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20
Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.31/2458 - Release Date: 10/2=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Nothing so far Roger , just coming up=
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z&nbsp; about to close </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G .. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Drogerlapthorn=
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> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 25, 2009 6:34 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mail=
to:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: 500kHz G4NT WSPR beaconing</DIV></DIV></D=
IV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Let us hope you manage to hear my signal too later in=
 the evening=20
Clemens.<BR><BR>73s<BR>Roger G3XBM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>2009/10/25 Clemens Paul <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&lt;<=
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      <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;2009-10-25 18:00&nbsp;</TD>
      <TD align=3Dleft>&nbsp;G4JNT&nbsp;</TD>
      <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;0.503850&nbsp;</TD>
      <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;+12&nbsp;</TD>
      <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;0&nbsp;</TD>
      <TD align=3Dleft>&nbsp;IO90iv&nbsp;</TD>
      <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;0.2&nbsp;</TD>
      <TD align=3Dleft>&nbsp;DL4RAJ&nbsp;</TD>
      <TD align=3Dleft>&nbsp;JN68kj&nbsp;</TD>
      <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;1055&nbsp;</TD>
      <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;100&nbsp;</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>This evening looks promising.</FONT=
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2   face=3DArial>73<BR>Clemens<BR>DL4RAJ</FONT></D=
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&nbsp;GQRP 1678 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;ISWL G11088<BR>
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About 1800z. 3/10/09.

F5VLF




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Hi Lubos and LF group
Many thanks for the report .
i am in qso with HB9ASB hello toni ur "O"+
good sunday for all
Claude F8boj
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  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 11:06 AM
  Subject: LF: F8BOJ


  There is the next good signal on 137.740kHz >> F8BOJ.

  Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS=20


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Hi Lubos and LF group</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Many thanks for the report&nbsp;.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>i am in qso with HB9ASB hello toni ur "O"+</FO=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>good sunday for all</FONT></DIV>
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hi John 
Many thanks for the report activity above
137 khz..
GOOD sunday for all
Claude F8boj JN16wa
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My broadband link is out of service and is unlikely to be fixed before
Monday 55th.

Meanwhile, via a lashup dialup link and a lot of cut and paste, here is a
summry of what I have received:

HB9ASB 20dB over noise about 1800z. 3/10/09. 

M0BMU 15 to 20dB over QRN calling RU6LA at 1916z. 3/10/09.

F4DTL 20dB over QRN at 2000z. 3/10/09.

F8BOJ 40dB over QRN on 137 at 0710z. 4/10/09.

73
John F5VLF

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Rik

I've been watching for your WSPR signal when you are on...although most 
nights you appear to shut down early. Sunset here is 2150Z. What power and 
antenna are you running?

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2

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> Hello Vernon,
>
> tuning frequency is 502.4kHz USB mode.
> I will run a WSPR beacon tonight (20-24UTC).
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
>
>
> At 16:38 29/10/2009, you wrote:
>>Hi everyone.....what dial frequency is everyone using for 500khz wspr....I
>>finally have my long wires out and have been monitoring. I can leave WSPR
>>running almost 24/7 to see if I can catch a WSPR signal from across the
>>pond. I did catch a couple last year which was great!!!
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Vernon - VE1VDM
>>FN85ij
>
> 



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Steve=20

You spotted the  deliberate  mistake ...  the grabber page on the  gro=
up is sort of maintained .. but  everything is running  on a as and wh=
en basis  . I added the pages when they where live .. but  as you  can=
 see  .. not  all are now  running ...and as for the  beacons .. e'rrr=
rr   well  permanent beacons  are not  allowed .. except G4JNT who is=
 now running  dual mode .(need to  get the  final power level for  wsp=
r).. and so on into the  night  ..

If anyone has a live 500 grabber that they would  like to  list  on th=
e page , please  email the  web link and I will add  it  to the 'top'=
  of the   page .. or if you  find one  let 'us' know !=20

tnx - Graham

G0NBD





From: VK2ZTO=20
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 12:13 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers....


G'day Gary,

There currently seems to be a rend in the time-space continuum here do=
wn under in VK-land....

Apart from your site - for which I get a "can't connect".

>From the links on the Google site I get the following results.

1. GM4SLV - last grab Jan 2009.
2. CT1DRP - last grab Nov 2008.
3. Hartmut Wolff - last grab Nov 2008.
4. GM4ISM - can't connect.
5. DF6NM - last grab May 2008.
6. RN3AGC - can't connect.

The only one that works is the http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/ link.

What am I missing ?

73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Gary - G4WGT=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 8:28 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers....


  Hi Steve,=20


  A small list of grabbers on the UK500KHZ Group web site at :-


  http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers


  Also my own grabber page for the UK, EU & USA bands at :-


  http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html


  73


  Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.





  2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra.com>

    G'day All,

    In an expression of extreme optimism I am interested in getting de=
tails of 500kc beacons (preferably QRSS30 and slower) in Europe.    To=
 get real-time confirmation of on-air status I am also looking for rel=
evant local grabbers for those beacons.

    73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)=20






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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:vk2=
zto@djirra.com&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailto:vk2zt=
o@djirra.com">VK2ZTO</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 05, 2009 12:13 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&#10;=
CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=
.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers....</DIV></DIV=
></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G'day Gary,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>There currently seems to be a rend in=
 the=20
time-space continuum here down under in VK-land....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Apart from your site - for which I ge=
t a "can't=20
connect".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>From the links on&nbsp;the Google sit=
e I get the=20
following results.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>1. GM4SLV - last grab Jan 2009.</FONT=
></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>2. CT1DRP - last grab Nov 2008.</FONT=
></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>3. Hartmut Wolff - last grab Nov 2008=
.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>4. GM4ISM - can't connect.</FONT></DI=
V>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>5. DF6NM - last grab May 2008.</FONT>=
</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>6. RN3AGC - can't connect.</FONT></DI=
V>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>The only one that works is the <A  =
 href=3D"http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/" rel=3Dnofollow><FONT size=
=3D2   face=3D"Times New Roman">http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/</FONT=
></A>&nbsp;link.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>What am I missing ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE   style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT:=
 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"   dir=
=3Dltr>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV     style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color:=
 black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dg4wgt@tiscali.co.uk href=3D"mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk">G=
ary -=20
  G4WGT</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@=
blacksheep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_l=
f_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 05, 200=
9 8:28=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: 500kc beacon=
s and=20
  grabbers....</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Hi Steve,=20
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>A small list of grabbers on the UK500KHZ Group web site at :-</=
DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><A     href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-=
khz-grabbers">http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grab=
bers</A></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Also my own grabber page for the UK, EU &amp; USA bands at :-</=
DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><A     href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.htm=
l">http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html</A></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>73</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><A     href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-=
khz-grabbers"></A><BR><BR>
  <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A  =
   href=3D"mailto:vk2zto@djirra.com">vk2zto@djirra.com</A>&gt;</SPAN><=
BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE     style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0p=
x 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"     class=3Dgmail_quote>G'day All,<BR>=
<BR>In an expression of extreme optimism I=20
    am interested in getting details of 500kc beacons (preferably QRSS=
30 and=20
    slower) in Europe. &nbsp; &nbsp;To get real-time confirmation of=
 on-air=20
    status I am also looking for relevant local grabbers for those=20
    beacons.<BR><BR>73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)=20
<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Thanks Gary=20

Which version of  fldigi are you  running ?  might  send that over to=
  w1hkj  for  info=20

tnx- G ..


From: Gary - G4WGT=20
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:51 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: Re: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000


Hi Graham, LF,


Copying your THROB2 transmission very well here but only about 35 mile=
s away.


I am running FLdigi & MultiPSK software together & it looks like Multi=
PSK has the upper hand, certainly at this distance. Be interesting to=
 have a comparison on a weaker signal.


Below are the same seven lines from both software decoders.




FLdigi
THE QUICK BROWN FOK JUMPED OVER THE LAZVY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TVLTIN=
G
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 01234567898G0NBD TESTIN=
G
THE QUICK BROWB FOKBJUMPVD OVER THE LAZEY MOON 012345A78O G7BZD TVSTID=
G
THE QUICK BROWN FOK JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 012345678,PG0NBD TVLTPD=
F
7HE.QU8CY BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THV LAZEY MOOBPV1I3456785 G0NZCBTVLT=
 NG
THE QUICK BROWN FOK JSMOED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 01234O5789 G0FBD TESTIA=
G
7HEQQU8CY BROWN FOX JUMPED OVVR THVGLRZVB MOON O123RO67)6GG0NZDGTVLJUF=
F


MultiPSK
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTIN=
G
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTIN=
G
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTIN=
G
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTIN=
G
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTIN=
G
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTIN=
G
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTIN=
G


73,


Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo






2009/10/27 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>

  Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency=20

  TX set  502.000 USB
  Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency=20

  Repeat time 60  seconds =20

  RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'  time=20

  Reports / observations  =20

  Tnx  Graham

  G0NBD - IO83LK =20







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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks Gary </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Which version of&nbsp; fldigi are you=
&nbsp; running=20
?&nbsp; might&nbsp; send that over to&nbsp; w1hkj&nbsp; for&nbsp; info=
=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>tnx- G ..</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dg4wgt@tiscali=
.co.uk   href=3D"mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk">Gary - G4WGT</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:51 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mail=
to:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000</DIV></DIV></DIV=
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<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Hi Graham, LF,</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Copying your THROB2 transmission very well here but only about 35=
 miles=20
away.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I am running FLdigi &amp; MultiPSK software together &amp; it loo=
ks like=20
MultiPSK has the upper hand, certainly at this distance. Be interestin=
g to have=20
a comparison on a weaker signal.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Below are the same seven lines from both software decoders.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>FLdigi</DIV>
<DIV>THE QUICK BROWN FOK JUMPED OVER THE LAZVY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD=
=20
TVLTING</DIV>
<DIV>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 01234567898G0NBD=
=20
TESTING</DIV>
<DIV>THE QUICK BROWB FOKBJUMPVD OVER THE LAZEY MOON 012345A78O G7BZD=
=20
TVSTIDG</DIV>
<DIV>THE QUICK BROWN FOK JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 012345678,PG0NBD=
=20
TVLTPDF</DIV>
<DIV>7HE.QU8CY BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THV LAZEY MOOBPV1I3456785 G0NZCBT=
VLT=20
NG</DIV>
<DIV>THE QUICK BROWN FOK JSMOED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 01234O5789 G0FBD=
=20
TESTIAG</DIV>
<DIV>7HEQQU8CY BROWN FOX JUMPED OVVR THVGLRZVB MOON=20
O123RO67)6GG0NZDGTVLJUFF</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>MultiPSK</DIV>
<DIV>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD=
=20
TESTING</DIV>
<DIV>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD=
=20
TESTING</DIV>
<DIV>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD=
=20
TESTING</DIV>
<DIV>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD=
=20
TESTING</DIV>
<DIV>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD=
=20
TESTING</DIV>
<DIV>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD=
=20
TESTING</DIV>
<DIV>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD=
=20
TESTING</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>73,</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><BR>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>2009/10/27 Graham <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A   hr=
ef=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk"   target=3D_blank>g8fzk@g8fzk.fs=
net.co.uk</A>&gt;</SPAN><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE   style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0p=
x 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"   class=3Dgmail_quote>
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 15px"     name=3D"Compose message area">
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; THROB-2-&nbsp; Beacon=
&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  503.000 khz centre&nbsp; frequency </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>TX set&nbsp; 502.000 USB</FONT></DI=
V>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Audio&nbsp; 1000 Hz cent frequency=
 </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Repeat time 60&nbsp; seconds&nbsp;=
 </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>RX&nbsp; 'ON'&nbsp; during cycle tx=
 'off'=20
  &nbsp;time </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Reports / observations&nbsp;&nbsp;=
 </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx&nbsp; Graham</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G0NBD - IO83LK=20
</FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><BR><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR>
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David,
There is a whole lot of stuff written about determining ERP involving a 
lot of maths. The most accurate method is to measure the actual field 
strength. These methods are described in 'LF Today' and 'The Low 
Frequency Experimenter's Handbook' available from ARRL Books (look in 
RSGB section). Also check out QST Nov 1998 and you will see the antenna 
I am using.
My unconventional method of working out ERP is to calculate antenna gain 
(loss) using EZNEC. Because the radiation R is so low much of the gain 
is determined by the ground characteristics. This parameter I determine 
by measuring the RF current on the real antenna which is input into the 
model. My present antenna has a gain of around -12dBi.
I trust this helps

Peter Dodd, G3LDO

>  
> As an interested observer from the other side of the pond, how do you 
> determine that you are close to the ERP limit?? I'd be interested in 
> knowing as I am trying to do some pro-bono work for the ARRL on 
> getting use of 137 kHz here in the USA.
>  
> Tnx & 73,
>  
> David Weinreich
> WA2VUJ/3
>
> >>>
> *From: *  Peter Dodd <g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk>
> *To:*     <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> *Date: *  10/07/09 3:09 PM
> *Subject: *   LF:  Re Propagation report
>
> Hi Jay,
> I will be sending a beacon signal QRSS3 on 501.1kHz until 2330z.
> I have modified my old PL519 TV sweep tube transmitter which ran about
> 60 to 70W. It now has two PL519s in parallel running 120W.
> I have taken down the HF quad until the sunspots wake up a bit and
> reinstalled the antenna used for 73/136kHz so I am now running close to
> the new ERP limit.
>
>
> Peter, G3LDO
>



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Thanx my friend,have a nice day, see you later on 2200m.
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F4DTL  Nicolas JN18FP
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Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 30/10/2009 11:48:03 Paris, Madrid, =20
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hello Nicolas end LF
BIG sig many thanks for the qso
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Report  from Gary , that he  is  getting  100% decode with  Multipsk=
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MULTIPSK        >>>>>        http://f6cte.free.fr/index_anglais.htm =
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Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency=20

TX set  502.000 USB
Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency=20

Repeat time 60  seconds =20

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Report&nbsp; from Gary , that he&nbsp=
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slightly less&nbsp; using Fldigi ......</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000 </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; THROB-2-&nbsp; Beacon&n=
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503.000 khz centre&nbsp; frequency </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>TX set&nbsp; 502.000 USB</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>RX&nbsp; 'ON'&nbsp; during cycle tx=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Reports / observations&nbsp;&nbsp; </=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx&nbsp; Graham</FONT></DIV>
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Yes andrey thanx, im beaconing now on 137776 QRSS90 with 300W but the rain=
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modified the values of the antenna.
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Regards Friend.
F4DTL Nicolas
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Nicolas,
If there is a possibility, too try. Propagation good,  for
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to Lubos (and anyone who may be interested):
Did you ever hear of a software named "virtual audio cable"? For example=
 you can send your SDR-signal to the virtual Soundcard. From that you can=
 decode THROB or what ever. So you do not need a second computer for decod=
ing. The speed of the computer who has to mange both must be higher, of co=
urse.
Horst DO1KHS

> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: "Lubos OK2BVG" <bvgbob@hotmail.com>
> Gesendet: 27.10.09 22:51:54
> An: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Betreff: RE: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000

Hello Graham, LF!
> Sorry, but I use my computer together with SDR-IQ as a LF receiver=20
> and I haven=B4t got the other PC for decoding THROB packets. But your=20
> signal is nice!
>=20
> Lubos, OK2BVG
>=20
> From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:34:27 +0000
> Subject: Re: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000
>=20
> Tnx Lubos=20
>=20
> Are you able to decode any of the signal ???
>=20
> I use > http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html
>=20
> Tnx - Graham ..
>=20
>  *From:*Lubos OK2BVG
>  *Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:05 PM
>  *To:*rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>  *Subject:* RE: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000
>=20
> Hello Graham, LF!
> I see your beacon=B4s packets very well.
>=20
> 73!
>=20
> Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
> From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:28:12 +0000
> Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20
>=20
> Running THROB-2- Beacon 503.000 khz centre frequency=20
>=20
> TX set 502.000 USB
> Audio 1000 Hz cent frequency=20
>=20
> Repeat time 60 seconds=20
>=20
> RX 'ON' during cycle tx 'off' time=20
>=20
> Reports / observations=20
>=20
> Tnx Graham
>=20
> G0NBD - IO83LK=20
>=20
> Windows 7: Kter=FD po=E8=EDta=E8 je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD? Dal=B9=ED inf=
ormace.
>=20
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20
> Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.34/2462 - Release Date: 10/
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>=20
>=20
> Windows 7: Kter=FD po=E8=EDta=E8 je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD? Dal=B9=ED inf=
ormace.


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Hi Claude!

Claude Berthebaud wrote:
> Good evening ALL
> The Beacon "BOJ" is open  QRSS60  137776.2hz
> Good night
> Claude F8boj JN16WA
Dmitry
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good evening Dmitry
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> Hi Claude!
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Hi Paul-Henrik, Michael, Nicolas, Marcin, LF,
Capture at 21.50

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One night of DI2AG WSPR beacon:

2134 -10  3.5   0.505075  0 DI2AG JN59 27
2144  -7  3.6   0.505075  0 DI2AG JN59 27
2150  -5  3.6   0.505075  0 DI2AG JN59 27
2206  -9  3.6   0.505075  0 DI2AG JN59 27
2212  -9  3.5   0.505075  0 DI2AG JN59 27
2216 -16  3.7   0.505075  0 DI2AG JN59 27
2228 -14  3.5   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
2234 -17  3.5   0.505075  0 DI2AG JN59 27
2238 -17  3.6   0.505075  0 DI2AG JN59 27
2302  -9  4.1   0.505076 -1 DI2AG JN59 27
2312  -9  3.9   0.505075  0 DI2AG JN59 27
2318 -13  3.5   0.505075  0 DI2AG JN59 27
2328  -9  4.0   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
2332 -11  3.8   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
2338 -11  3.7   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
2346 -16  3.9   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
2352 -18  4.1   0.505076 -1 DI2AG JN59 27
2358 -13  3.7   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0002 -12  4.2   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0010 -12  4.3   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0016 -11  4.3   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0022 -10  3.9   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0030 -11  3.6   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0036 -10  4.1   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0040 -11  3.8   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0048  -9  3.8   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0052 -14  3.8   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0108 -11  4.0   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0136  -8  4.2   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0142 -33 -2.0   0.505167  1 FZ6BU OQ90 37
0152  -7  4.2   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0156  -9  3.7   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0204  -6  4.0   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0208 -33 -1.0   0.505168  0 OTS/EK6TYO R S6
0210  -4  3.8   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0240  -4  3.9   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0246  -9  4.2   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0254  -6  4.0   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0306 -11  3.9   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0326  -9  4.5   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0334 -11  3.9   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0340 -10  4.5   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0352 -11  4.1   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0358 -11  4.1   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0410 -13  4.1   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0418 -10  4.3   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0426 -14  4.6   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0430 -12  4.5   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0438 -12  4.6   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0452  -9  4.1   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0504 -12  4.3   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0512 -13  4.7   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0516 -11  4.6   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0638 -16  4.6   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0642 -12  5.0   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0648 -11  4.4   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0652 -10  4.7   0.505076  0 DI2AG JN59 27
0954 -22  4.1   0.505023 -3 0CL/2B4 GQ R S9

A few false decoding included :-)
This time I left the IF BW at 300 Hz, so the S/N ratios are more correct.
23m long wire, Perseus SDR RX.

73 - Marco IK1ODO - JN35sa



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G'day Gary,

There currently seems to be a rend in the time-space continuum here do=
wn under in VK-land....

Apart from your site - for which I get a "can't connect".

>From the links on the Google site I get the following results.

1. GM4SLV - last grab Jan 2009.
2. CT1DRP - last grab Nov 2008.
3. Hartmut Wolff - last grab Nov 2008.
4. GM4ISM - can't connect.
5. DF6NM - last grab May 2008.
6. RN3AGC - can't connect.

The only one that works is the http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/ link.

What am I missing ?

73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Gary - G4WGT=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 8:28 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers....


  Hi Steve,


  A small list of grabbers on the UK500KHZ Group web site at :-


  http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers


  Also my own grabber page for the UK, EU & USA bands at :-


  http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html


  73


  Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.





  2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra.com>

    G'day All,

    In an expression of extreme optimism I am interested in getting de=
tails of 500kc beacons (preferably QRSS30 and slower) in Europe.    To=
 get real-time confirmation of on-air status I am also looking for rel=
evant local grabbers for those beacons.

    73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)=20



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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G'day Gary,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>There currently seems to be a rend in=
 the=20
time-space continuum here down under in VK-land....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Apart from your site - for which I ge=
t a "can't=20
connect".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>From the links on&nbsp;the Google sit=
e I get the=20
following results.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>1. GM4SLV - last grab Jan 2009.</FONT=
></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>2. CT1DRP - last grab Nov 2008.</FONT=
></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>3. Hartmut Wolff - last grab Nov 2008=
.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>4. GM4ISM - can't connect.</FONT></DI=
V>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>5. DF6NM - last grab May 2008.</FONT>=
</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>6. RN3AGC - can't connect.</FONT></DI=
V>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>The only one that works is the <A  =
 href=3D"http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/" rel=3Dnofollow><FONT size=
=3D2   face=3D"Times New Roman">http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/</FONT=
></A>&nbsp;link.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>What am I missing ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE   style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT:=
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV     style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color:=
 black"><B>From:</B>=20
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ary -=20
  G4WGT</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@=
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f_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 05, 200=
9 8:28=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: 500kc beacon=
s and=20
  grabbers....</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Hi Steve,
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>A small list of grabbers on the UK500KHZ Group web site at :-</=
DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><A     href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-=
khz-grabbers">http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grab=
bers</A></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Also my own grabber page for the UK, EU &amp; USA bands at :-</=
DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><A     href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.htm=
l">http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html</A></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>73</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><A     href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-=
khz-grabbers"></A><BR><BR>
  <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A  =
   href=3D"mailto:vk2zto@djirra.com">vk2zto@djirra.com</A>&gt;</SPAN><=
BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE     style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0p=
x 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"     class=3Dgmail_quote>G'day All,<BR>=
<BR>In an expression of extreme optimism I=20
    am interested in getting details of 500kc beacons (preferably QRSS=
30 and=20
    slower) in Europe. &nbsp; &nbsp;To get real-time confirmation of=
 on-air=20
    status I am also looking for relevant local grabbers for those=20
    beacons.<BR><BR>73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)=20
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Hello Peter, Jay, LF

I had the radio tuned to 501.1kHz for a couple of hours last night but fou=
nd the
signal to be weakish for a close to legal limit ERP UK station under norma=
l/good
conditions. The signal was very stable with no deep QSB over the period I
followed it.

I know it is impossible to make a proper estimation like this, just wanted=
 to
add my reception result. Perhaps something wasn't working as intended/anno=
unced
or then it was just condx changing for the worse after a good period lasti=
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Vaasa / KP03SD


Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:

> Peter
>
> Sorry...nothing seen. T storms over Atlantic generating some pretty good
> static levels.
>
> Jay
>
>




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>Listened at abt 21:00 Clock time 30th Oct 2009 on 0.5013 mc/s to a 
>fb rag chew on CW all stations copied, Finbar in some QSB but abt 
>90% copied here in North Hertfordshire IO91UX.

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Beacon   QRT 2400 =20

Many thanks  for the reports  ....  interesting results=20

73

Graham ..  =20


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To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency=20

TX set  502.000 USB
Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency=20

Repeat time 60  seconds =20

RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'  time=20

Reports / observations  =20

Tnx  Graham

G0NBD - IO83LK =20





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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; THROB-2-&nbsp; Beacon&n=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx&nbsp; Graham</FONT></DIV>
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Claude,

I copied the attached signal in the 2230-2245 period, well before local sunset. The Loran line is at 776.104. 

John, W1TAG
(in Maine at FN43sv)

---- Claude Berthebaud <f8boj@club-internet.fr> wrote: 
> GM Laurence
> I passed this evening "BOJ" on the frequency 137776.12hz in qrss 60 
>  I started transmission at 18h you Finally just to finish at 10.40 you ... this is my transmission on the grabber of RN3AGC ... 
> Claude F8boj JN16WA .....
> 
> .
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China 
>   To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 
>   Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 12:43 AM
>   Subject: LF: 137.7761 and a bit
> 
> 
>    
>   Got this just before dawn - wasnt looking at 137 overnight but switched pre dawn here in China. 
>    
>   Dcf39/Mag are way over S9 on a quiet band so I would expect to see Eu sigs with 1W ERP or around on a good day. Looks like another at 777.9 too but very weak.
>    
>   ps also saw some UNID traces on 503.6khz qrss3 but 500 wasnt so good here as 137kHz
>    
>   Laurence KL1 X in BY3A OM89UA China
>   R75 Probe at 80 ft or so.
>    
>   ps time on trace in GMT  was at end point not when sig seen.
>    
>    
> 
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Hi Claude,
I switch the grabber on 136 khz. www.rn3agc.msk.ru/grabber
Good night!

73 Andrey


hi LF
137776.20hz BOJ qrss 60...21h18 TU
Claude F8boj JN16WA


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Anyone copy JH1GVH last night?

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I have seen some similar type antennas while flying across the USA years ago 
painted RED and WHITE if I remember correctly.
That was in the days when LF and MF were the norm for broadcasting, before 
the advent of FM and satellites, although there is still plenty of LF/MF 
broadcasting but mainly low power local stations these days, and antenna 
masts are more modest structures than they used to be.
de mal/g3kev

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> How about that?
> http://www.waniewski.de/id414.htm
>
> HTH
> 73
> Clemens
> DL4RAJ
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dexter McIntyre W4DEX" <dmcintyre@att.net>
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>
>>I have a 1936 edition of Electrical Engineers Handbook by Pender - 
>>McIlwain
>> which show a diagram of a 1030 foot antenna in Budapest used on 545 kc. 
>> So far
>> I have found no history on this antenna.  Anyone have any info on this 
>> station
>> and antenna's history?
>>
>> Dex
>
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Hi LF,
I am testing my Class D Tx after a PA fail yesterday.
Frequency 503.6kHz
QRS03 at 5 minute intervals & CW ID.
1 watt ERP.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.

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Hi LF,<div><br></div><div>I am testing my Class D Tx after a PA fail yesterday.</div><div>Frequency 503.6kHz</div><div>QRS03 at 5 minute intervals &amp; CW ID.</div><div>1 watt ERP.</div><div><br></div><div>73</div><div><br>
</div><div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.</div>

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Thanks for the reports Richard. You did very well for your first try with
WSPR and hearing the stateside station during the night. I expect to be back
on 500kHz WSPR again on Tuesday evening.

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/10/18 Richard Newstead <g3cwi@btconnect.com>

> Roger Lapthorn wrote:
>
>> Just seen Rik's decode and now this!!!!!
>>
>>  2009-10-17 19:14        G3XBM           0.503936        -26     0
>> JO02dg   0.001           GM4SLV          IP90gg          896     354
>>
>> This is staggering!!!
>>
>>
>>
> Hi Roger et al
>
> Pleased to detect you last night. Good propagation to the US as well
> apparently. W17XSH heard for long periods.
>
> My first try with WSPR.
>
> 73
>
> Richard
> G3CWI
>
>
>


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Thanks for the reports Richard. You did very well for your first try with=
 WSPR and hearing the stateside station during the night. I expect to be=
 back on 500kHz WSPR again on Tuesday evening.=A0 <br><br>73s<br>Roger G3X=
BM<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/18 Richard Newstead <span dir=3D"lt=
r">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:g3cwi@btconnect.com">g3cwi@btconnect.com</a>&gt;<=
/span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px soli=
d rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class=3D"im">Roger Lapthorn wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Just seen Rik&#39;s decode and now this!!!!!<br>
<br>
=A02009-10-17 19:14 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0G3XBM =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 0.503936 =A0=
 =A0 =A0 =A0-26 =A0 =A0 0 =A0 =A0 =A0 JO02dg =A0=A00.001 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=
 =A0 GM4SLV =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0IP90gg =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0896 =A0 =A0 354=
 <br>
<br>
This is staggering!!!<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div>
Hi Roger et al<br>
<br>
Pleased to detect you last night. Good propagation to the US as well appar=
ently. W17XSH heard for long periods.<br>
<br>
My first try with WSPR.<br>
<br>
73<br>
<br>
Richard<br>
G3CWI<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>----------------------=
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G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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Andrey,
    Thanks for the capture!

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2009/10/7 Andrey rn3agc <rn3agc@mail.ru>:
> Hello Warren, Henny, LF
> capture at ~02.30z
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> 73
> Andrey RN3AGC / KO85sv
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>> Hello Warren,LF
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>> best 73s
>> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden
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Subject: Re: LF: OT: Reliants


Many years ago there was a picture in QST of a Robin Reliant fitted
for 160 meter mobile operation with a large antenna - very comical!
--
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1





On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 6:11 PM, John RABSON <john.rabson@numeo.fr> wrote:
> On 23/10/2009 at 21:54 Graham wrote:
>
>>> *** 'crazy'? That's nothing. According to UK automobile regulations,
>>the
>>> Reliant Robin (a 3-wheeled vehicle with a fully enclosed fibreglass
>>body)
>>> is a motorcycle
>
> I should have put motor tricycle.
>
>>Oh no its not ... Its a motorcycle combination .. ie motorcycle with
>>a side car .and has 3 wheels ... with only one driven . just happens
>
> According to the registration documents for my Reliants, they were motor
tricycles. A motorcycle combination would have been a motor bicycle with
sidecar.
>
> John F5VLF
>
>
>
>



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Gary - G4WGT wrote:
> Hi Tim,
>
> Point the cursor at the right side of the Argo display & click the 
> right mouse button.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
> 2009/10/3 tim hague <m0afj@dsl.pipex.com <mailto:m0afj@dsl.pipex.com>>
>
>     I'm trying to set up Argo, I can get copy on the vertical
>     waterfall but not the horizontal, any tips chaps?
>
>     Tim M0AFJ
>
>
Thanks Gary, all working fine now, got good copy of Mal. I had the wrong 
frequency set on the RH slider..
Is there a set frequency for QRS?, is it worth leaving the Rx on overnight?


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GM Laurence
I passed this evening "BOJ" on the frequency 137776.12hz in qrss 60=20
 I started transmission at 18h you Finally just to finish at 10.40 you=
 ... this is my transmission on the grabber of RN3AGC ...=20
Claude F8boj JN16WA .....

.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 12:43 AM
  Subject: LF: 137.7761 and a bit


  =20
  Got this just before dawn - wasnt looking at 137 overnight but switc=
hed pre dawn here in China.=20
  =20
  Dcf39/Mag are way over S9 on a quiet band so I would expect to see=
 Eu sigs with 1W ERP or around on a good day. Looks like another at 77=
7.9 too but very weak.
  =20
  ps also saw some UNID traces on 503.6khz qrss3 but 500 wasnt so good=
 here as 137kHz
  =20
  Laurence KL1 X in BY3A OM89UA China
  R75 Probe at 80 ft or so.
  =20
  ps time on trace in GMT  was at end point not when sig seen.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I passed this evening "BOJ" on the frequency=
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<DIV dir=3Dltr>&nbsp;I started transmission at 18h you Finally just to=
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>&nbsp;<BR>Got this just before dawn - wasnt looking=
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  overnight but switched pre&nbsp;dawn here in China. <BR>&nbsp;<BR>Dc=
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  weak.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>ps also saw some UNID traces on 503.6khz qrss3 bu=
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  wasnt so good here as 137kHz<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Laurence KL1 X in BY3A OM8=
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Over the past days I monitored the G4JNT WSPR beacon 24/24.
During daytime I have a weak but consistent copy of Andy's signal, 
average -24dB with ups and down of some dB.
During nighttime the signal is -10dB on average, with the usual deep 
QSB (peaking -1dB, dips down to -20dB).
But the most interesting observation is that in the afternoon the 
first peaks (from -24dB up to -8dB) occur as early as 15:45 UTC.
This is almost 1 hour before sunset (16:37 UTC) and almost 1.5 hours 
before the D-layer (at mid point) goes into darkness.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T



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http://www.qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html
visible, little audible 315

http://rn3agc.msk.ru/grabber1.shtml
visible, audible 579

> Hi Niels!
> looking 502.0 grabbers started ON.
> PSE QRSS-3 if possible.
> RN3AGC copy you 569
> Inaudible into my location.


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On 6 Oct 2009 at 14:17, Roman RW3ADB wrote:

> G'day Steve.
> 
> * VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra.com> [Tue, 6 Oct 2009 19:15:34 +1100]:
> > G'day All,
> >
> > I had a look at the RW3ADB grabber and I see exactly the same
> > characteristic
> > signal here in VK-land on 499,993 Hz.    Can't think what it might be.
> >
> > Sometimes it looks like one or two second dots and sometimes it looks
> > continuous.
> >
> > Attached are two comparisons.
> >
> > Any clues ?
> 
> 
> Two variants Steve:
> 1) Russian Army use an IF 500Kc. May be a heterodynes signals. But how
> is rx'd in AU? ) 2) Pulse-Power converters.

Or more likely the 32nd harmonic of the 15.625kHz TV line ocillator 
rate. UK, UA and VK all use the 625 line PAL standard (though parts of 
USSR are Secam). The line rate is actually locked to the  colour 
subcarrier of 4.43361875 MHz which may account for the 7Hz shift at 
500kHz.

73 Dave G3YMC

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Hi henny ,

Very strange ! nothing here on my grabber last night ?

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> Thi is the capture of 16-10 Warren,LF
> 73s
> henny cpm
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> Hello Warren,LF,
> Nice capture XGJ
> Henny pa3cpm
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Having been away on holiday for a couple of weeks without internet
connection I missed this thread until today.

My views on WSPR are simple.

   - It is (will be) enormously helpful when analysing LF antennas/station
   improvements.
   - It is very useful for indicating propagation changes and on higher
   bands like 10/6m can show openings that might otherwise be missed. I have
   already seen 10m signals at 3am for example.
   - It allows QRPp signals like mine to be detected on LF, HF and VHF
   bands, although I agree other weak signal modes may be as good (but may lack
   the internet database feedback element which is the REAL killer application
   for me).
   - The on-line database is very helpful in getting almost real time
   feedback and indications of your station's coverage.
   - It is not a replacement for QSO modes, but is an extremely powerful
   beaconing tool.

*BTW, I hope to start on my improvements to my basic 500kHz station in the
next few weeks so would appreciate 500kHz WSPR reports again once my signal
reappears. *Once my signal gets to a decent level I am looking forward to
some CW contacts as well.

73s
Roger

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Having been away on holiday for a couple of weeks without internet connect=
ion I missed this thread until today. <br><br>My views on WSPR are simple.=
<br><ul><li>It is (will be) enormously helpful when analysing LF antennas/=
station improvements. <br>
</li><li>It is very useful for indicating propagation changes and on highe=
r bands like 10/6m can show openings that might otherwise be missed. I hav=
e already seen 10m signals at 3am for example.<br></li><li>It allows QRPp=
 signals like mine to be detected on LF, HF and VHF bands, although I agre=
e other weak signal modes may be as good (but may lack the internet databa=
se feedback element which is the REAL killer application for me).<br>
</li><li>The on-line database is very helpful in getting almost real time=
 feedback and indications of your station&#39;s coverage.<br></li><li>It=
 is not a replacement for QSO modes, but is an extremely powerful beaconin=
g tool.</li>
</ul><b>BTW, I hope to start on my improvements to my basic 500kHz station=
 in the next few weeks so would appreciate 500kHz WSPR reports again once=
 my signal reappears. </b>Once my signal gets to a decent level I am looki=
ng forward to some CW contacts as well. <br>
<br>73s<br>Roger<br><br>--------------------------------------------------=
-----------<br><a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp=
.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.=
co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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Hi Roman, LF,

The signal you have seen on 507.4kHz is the CW & SSB beacon of Gus, SM6BHZ.

The SSB is often readable here when he operates the beacon on that
frequency. Gus alternates the beacon with his operations on WSPR on
503.925kHz.

73

Gary - G4WGT.

2009/10/23 Roman RW3ADB <rw3adb@rambler.ru>

> Hello Garry, LF!
>
> What's a signal on the 507.4 kHz visible onto G4WGT grabber at moment?
>
> --
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>
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Hi Roman, LF,<div><br></div><div>The signal you have seen on 507.4kHz is=
 the CW &amp; SSB beacon of Gus, SM6BHZ.</div><div><br></div><div>The SSB=
 is often readable here when he operates the beacon on that frequency. Gus=
 alternates the beacon with his operations on WSPR on 503.925kHz.</div>
<div><br></div><div>73</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT.<br><br><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/23 Roman RW3ADB <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:rw3adb@rambler.ru">rw3adb@rambler.ru</a>&gt;</span><br><block=
quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #cc=
c solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Hello Garry, LF!<br>
<br>
What&#39;s a signal on the 507.4 kHz visible onto G4WGT grabber at moment?=
<br>
<br>
--<br><font color=3D"#888888">
Roman RW3ADB.<br>
<br>
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Hello Warren, Henny, LF
capture at ~02.30z

73
Andrey RN3AGC / KO85sv


> Hello Warren,LF
> Capture XGJ
> Henny cpm
> best 73s
> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
> XGJ 07-10.jpg
>
> Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde 
> bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden 
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Dear Paul-Hendrik,

thank You for your explanations concerning this "two-mode" X-band-QSO.
We own just one rather old GSM unit which we are using very seldom, so I
must confess that I would not have been prepared properly for such a
QSO. I have already had an X-band-QSO 500 kHz / 3533 kHz with Finbar
under GI4DPE on November 11th, 2007 under better propagation conditions.
At our latitude full darkness will not come before 17.00 UTC in these
days, this will be earlier within the next few months.

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB


"Paul-Henrik" <phl@netikka.fi> schrieb:
> Hello Ha-Jo, LF
> 
> Finbar and me had a "X-band" QSO, EI->OH on 501.9kHz while OH->EI was bridged
> with the aid of SMS-messages :) . I had no TX capability on 80m last night as
> my inverted-L antenna was set up for wideband RX. I also had Finbar QSP my
> "live" SMS-reports to other stations he worked 500/500. This is the reason my
> call was mentioned quite a few times on 501.9 last night.
> 
> Have to keep the spirit alive on this band somehow while the authorities here
> keep on refusing amateur / experimantal access for unmentionable reasons that
> are hard to accept.
> 
> 73
> 
> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
> Vaasa / KP03SD
> 
> Quoting hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de:
> 
> > Dear all,
> >
> > G3LDO could be heard again 559 in QRSS on 501,1 kHz around 21.15 UTC,
> > October 9th, in
> > eastern Bavaria, JN68GN.
> >
> > Even more interesting was the CW signal of EI0CF, RST 579, from 21.17
> > until 21.50
> > UTC. At first he was in QSO on 501,9 kHz (obviously with Louis,
> > PA0LCE?). Then he heard G3XIZ and they moved to 503 kHz. G3XIZ could be
> > "estimated" too for a while, but readibility remainded very poor.
> >
> > PA0LCE could not be heard. OH1LSQ (?) was also mentioned in this CW
> > traffic. Sometimes reading of the CW signals was rather difficult due to
> > very short qsb, swallowing several letters of a word, even within the
> > usually rather strong transmission of EI0CF. But in general it was very
> > interesting to listen.
> >
> > Hope condx down to Bavaria improve during the winter months.
> >
> > 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



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Over the last couple of weeks have heard a very weak CW signal at 508kHz 
beaconing BL. Tonight it was a bit stronger and I copied IBL.
I am now making a test QRSS transmission on 501.05kHz

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Hello LF group!
Back on the band after a pause I last evening made a short=20
cw call on 500 kHz resulting in a solid-copy qso with=20
Mal, G3KEV. Several reports appeared on the reflector and
I do appreciate the swift responses. Thank you all.
My tx is now running about 550 Watts resulting in an=20
antenna current of 6.4 Amps which brings the resistive=20
component of my antenna impedance astonishing close to
the figure of 3.5 Ohm which I remember was a requirement
in the old days when I worked with the design of marine
radio equipment! As far as ERP is regarded I reckon I am
fairly close to the power limit of 13 dBW I was granted.
Trying to be active in the evenings after 19 UTC for cw-contacts.=20
Sorry at the present not to be able to make cross-band qsos as
I have got one transmitting antenna only. However looking=20
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73
OZ8NJ  Niels+

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello LF group!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Back on the band after a pause I last=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mal, G3KEV.&nbsp;Several reports appe=
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ses. Thank you=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My tx is now running about 550 Watts=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>antenna current of 6.4 Amps which bri=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the figure of 3.5 Ohm which I remembe=
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Hi Horst, Jim, LF,
Same here, I have used a PA0RDT Mini-Whip active antenna for a good while
now & it's performance is very good right down to 10kHz, may even go lower
if I knew what to look for !!!

My online grabbers use the Mini-Whip antenna.

73,

Gary - G4WGT.

2009/10/21 James Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.net>

> Hi Horst
>
> I've just installed one of Roelof Bakker's (PA0RDT) active mini whips an=
d
> it
> is excellent at my QTH.  Just my view, others may have different
> experiences
>
> With best regards
>
>
> Jim
>
>
> Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Horst St=F6cker
> Sent: 21 October 2009 17:26
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: Best receiving antenna wanted
>
> Hello,
> now that I am happy with my selectiv level meter Praecitronic MV-62 I am
> looking for the best receicing antenna.
> Especially I am interested in 400khz, 136kHz, 72kHz and below 22 kHz. Wi=
th
> my 40m longwire reception is not good enough and with a frame antenna of
> 900m copper wire it was disappointing, too..
> I think, an active antenna for 0 to 500 MHz would be the best for me -=
 but
> I
> am looking forward to any other idea.
> vy73 Horst DO1KHS
> _______________________________________________________________
> Neu: WEB.DE DSL bis 50.000 kBit/s und 200,- Euro Startguthaben!
> http://produkte.web.de/go/02/
>
>
>
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Hi Horst, Jim, LF,<div><br></div><div>Same here, I have used a PA0RDT Mini=
-Whip active antenna for a good while now &amp; it&#39;s performance is ve=
ry good right down to 10kHz, may even go lower if I knew what to look for=
 !!!</div>
<div><br></div><div>My online grabbers use the Mini-Whip antenna.</div><di=
v><br></div><div>73,</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT.<br><br><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/21 James Cowburn <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:james.cowburn@virgin.net">james.cowburn@virgin.net</a>&gt;</spa=
n><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Hi Horst<br>
<br>
I&#39;ve just installed one of Roelof Bakker&#39;s (PA0RDT) active mini wh=
ips and it<br>
is excellent at my QTH. =A0Just my view, others may have different experie=
nces<br>
<br>
With best regards<br>
<br>
<br>
Jim<br>
<br>
<br>
Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS<br>
<br>
<br>
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group@blacksheep.org</a><br>
[mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">owner-rsgb_l=
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Sent: 21 October 2009 17:26<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blackshe=
ep.org</a><br>
Subject: LF: Best receiving antenna wanted<br>
<br>
Hello,<br>
now that I am happy with my selectiv level meter Praecitronic MV-62 I am<b=
r>
looking for the best receicing antenna.<br>
Especially I am interested in 400khz, 136kHz, 72kHz and below 22 kHz. With=
<br>
my 40m longwire reception is not good enough and with a frame antenna of<b=
r>
900m copper wire it was disappointing, too..<br>
I think, an active antenna for 0 to 500 MHz would be the best for me - but=
 I<br>
am looking forward to any other idea.<br>
vy73 Horst DO1KHS<br>
_______________________________________________________________<br>
Neu: <a href=3D"http://WEB.DE" target=3D"_blank">WEB.DE</a> DSL bis 50.000=
 kBit/s und 200,- Euro Startguthaben!<br>
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<br>
<br>
<br>
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Sorry to the list,wrong recipient.

73
Clemens
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 11:59 PM
  Subject: LF: Re: EI0CF


  Hallo Werner,

  EI0CF ist hier auch sehr gut zu hören,ruft jetzt gerade CQ.
  Die K9 ist wesentlich besser im SNR als der Dipol,etwa so 6dB.

  73
  Clemens
  DL4RAJ
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    Hello Finbar!
    I listen to your regular CW signal on 501.055kHz. You have got a contact with VX9MRC. Your 
signal is FB 589!

    Lubos, OK2BVG


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Peter,=20
=20
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rmine that you are close to the ERP limit?? I'd be interested in knowing=
 as I am trying to do some pro-bono work for the ARRL on getting use of 13=
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From: Peter Dodd <g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk>
To:<rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Date: 10/07/09 3:09 PM
Subject: LF:  Re Propagation report
Hi Jay,
I will be sending a beacon signal QRSS3 on 501.1kHz until 2330z.
I have modified my old PL519 TV sweep tube transmitter which ran about=20
60 to 70W. It now has two PL519s in parallel running 120W.
I have taken down the HF quad until the sunspots wake up a bit and=20
reinstalled the antenna used for 73/136kHz so I am now running close to=20
the new ERP limit.


Peter, G3LDO


> Mal
>
> I check your frequency. Sunset here isn't until 2230Z...what time do=20
> you QRT?
>
> How about a beacon signal? ;~)
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net=
>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 11:34 AM
> Subject: LF: Re: Propagation report
>
>
>> Warren
>> Great propagation around EU and Russia at present on 500. I have been=
=20
>> copied in Russia and eastern EU while daylight here, also 160m is=20
>> good with daytime reception and QSO'S as far as the Moscow area
>> Probably good to the west but not sure if anyone is monitoring in the=
=20
>> USA during evening time here.
>> 73 de mal/g3kev
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
>> To: "rsgb_lf_group" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 4:18 PM
>> Subject: LF: Propagation report
>>
>>
>>> I have noted that Alan Melia has not updated his propagation  report
>>> since the 7th of July!
>>> Hope all is well with Alan!
>>>
>>>
>>> --=20
>>> 73 Warren K2ORS
>>>                WD2XGJ
>>>                WD2XSH/23
>>>                WE2XEB/2
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<TD>LF:&nbsp; Re Propagation report</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Hi Jay,<BR>I=
 will be sending a beacon signal QRSS3 on 501.1kHz until 2330z.<BR>I have=
 modified my old PL519 TV sweep tube transmitter which ran about <BR>60 to=
 70W. It now has two PL519s in parallel running 120W.<BR>I have taken down=
 the HF quad until the sunspots wake up a bit and <BR>reinstalled the ante=
nna used for 73/136kHz so I am now running close to <BR>the new ERP limit.=
<BR><BR><BR>Peter, G3LDO<BR><BR><BR>&gt; Mal<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; I check your=
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nt on 500. I have been <BR>&gt;&gt; copied in Russia and eastern EU while=
 daylight here, also 160m is <BR>&gt;&gt; good with daytime reception and=
 QSO'S as far as the Moscow area<BR>&gt;&gt; Probably good to the west but=
 not sure if anyone is monitoring in the <BR>&gt;&gt; USA during evening=
 time here.<BR>&gt;&gt; 73 de mal/g3kev<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; ----- Orig=
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Andrey
What would be a good FREQ for reception on 500?
We could try earlier in the day
de mal/g3kev

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> Mal,
> If here there was no this svc-station, your qrss3-signal would be visible 
> also in the afternoon :)
> For certain.
>
> 73 Andrey
>
>>
>> Andrey
>> I can not see any problem my signal is vy clear and strong on ur GRABBER
>> tonite
>> tnx de mal/g3kev
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 7:56 PM
>> Subject: LF: Re: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz
>>
>>
>>> Mal,
>>> Your signal here is almost in the centre of a spectrum of powerful
>>> broadband SVC-station.
>>> It is a pity that you do not have possibility to replace frequency...
>>>
>>> 73 Andrey
>>>
>>>
>>>> Andrey can see my sig solid copy on ur GRABBER
>>>> TNX MAL
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
>>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:36 PM
>>>> Subject: LF: Re: Re: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Mal,
>>>>> I have already switched on the grabber on your frequency.
>>>>> The grabber will work on 500 khz to ~21z....
>>>>>
>>>>> In the night from 1.30 till 2.45 observed someone's wspr-signals on
>>>>> 503850.
>>>>> The signals was not decoded.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73 Andrey
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Andrey
>>>>>> Pse look at 502.57 starting at 1800 utc CW and QRS3
>>>>>> De mal/g3kev
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
>>>>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 6:45 PM
>>>>>> Subject: LF: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello LF'ers,
>>>>>>> QRV RCV today WSPR-beacons on 500 kHz (503850+/-) till the morning.
>>>>>>> Also QRSS3 above frequency 502.350. If someone is going to work in
>>>>>>> QRSS3-mode,
>>>>>>> please inform your frequency.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 73 Andrey
>
>


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Hello Laurence ,
Henny beaconning now on 137775,6
Look at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Grabber.htm
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Laurence BY3A-KL1X China a =E9crit :
> Good morning - what frequency please?
>
> =20
>
> Laurence
> =20
>  =20
>> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:24:01 +0200
>> From: jpm.f1afj@online.fr
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>> Subject: Re: LF: "PM K" 30dB over noise on 137
>>
>> Hi John ,
>>
>> Yes it is Henny PA3CPM in beaconning !
>>
>> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj
>>
>> John RABSON a =E9crit :
>>    =20
>>> At 1804z. Is it PA3CPM?
>>>
>>> F5VLF
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>>>
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Richard Newstead wrote:
> Piotr MÅ‚ynarski wrote:
>> Dear Rick, LF group
>> it is my first decode of ur wspr signal 2118 -21  1.4   0.503868  0 
>> OR7T JO20 23
>> 2118 -22  0.8   0.503929  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
>> it was also sent  to wspr database
>>
>
> Just downloaded wspr. I have the dial set at 502.4 but nothing is 
> decoding. Time is set accurately. Any ideas?
>
Update - working now!


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Am I the only person hearing this station. He is CQ every night but no=
 one seems to reply
Surely all Receivers are not DEAF
G3KEV

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  ON4KTJ/Jean active on 500 K/cs band CW. I have worked him twice, thi=
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  de mal/g3kev


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Hello Graham, LF!
Sorry, but I use my computer together with SDR-IQ as a LF receiver and I=
 haven=B4t got the other PC for decoding THROB packets. But your signal is=
 nice!

Lubos, OK2BVG

From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk
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Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:34:27 +0000
Subject: Re: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000










Tnx Lubos=20
=20
Are  you  able to  decode any of the =20
signal ???
=20
I use  > http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html
=20
Tnx - Graham ..




From: Lubos OK2BVG=20
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To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20

Subject: RE: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000

Hello Graham, LF!
I see your beacon=B4s packets very=20
well.

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS


From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk
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Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20



Running  THROB-2-  Beacon  =20
503.000 khz centre  frequency=20
=20
TX set  502.000 USB
Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency=20
=20
Repeat time 60  seconds =20
=20
RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'=20
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Reports / observations  =20
=20
Tnx  Graham
=20
G0NBD - IO83LK =20




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Hello Graham, LF!<br>Sorry, but I use my computer together with SDR-IQ as=
 a LF receiver and I haven=B4t got the other PC for decoding THROB packets=
. But your signal is nice!<br><br>Lubos, OK2BVG<br><br><hr id=3D"stopSpell=
ing">From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk<br>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>=
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:34:27 +0000<br>Subject: Re: LF: Throb -2- beacon=
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<div><font face=3D"Arial">Tnx Lubos </font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial">Are&nbsp; you&nbsp; able to&nbsp; decode any of=
 the&nbsp;=20
signal ???</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial">I use&nbsp; &gt; <a href=3D"http://www.w1hkj.com=
/Fldigi.html">http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html</a></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial">Tnx - Graham ..</font></div>
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<div style=3D""><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"mailto:bvgbob@hotmail.com  CTRL=
 + Click to follow link" href=3D"mailto:bvgbob@hotmail.com">Lubos OK2BVG</=
a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:05 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org  CTRL + Cl=
ick to follow link" href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_g=
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<div><b>Subject:</b> RE: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000</div></div></div>
<div><br></div>Hello Graham, LF!<br>I see your beacon=B4s packets very=20
well.<br><br>73!<br><br>Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<br>
<hr id=3D"ecxstopSpelling">
From: <a href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk</=
a><br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@bl=
acksheep.org</a><br>Date:=20
Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:28:12 +0000<br>Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=
=20
<br><br>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Running&nbsp; THROB-2-&nbsp; Beacon&n=
bsp;&nbsp;=20
503.000 khz centre&nbsp; frequency </font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">TX set&nbsp; 502.000 USB</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Audio&nbsp; 1000 Hz cent frequency </=
font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Repeat time 60&nbsp; seconds&nbsp; </=
font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">RX&nbsp; 'ON'&nbsp; during cycle tx=
 'off'=20
&nbsp;time </font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Reports / observations&nbsp;&nbsp; </=
font></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Tnx&nbsp; Graham</font></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">G0NBD - IO83LK </font>&nbsp;</div><br=
><br><br>
<hr>
Windows 7: Kter=FD po=E8=EDta=E8 je pro v=E1s ten prav=FD? <a href=3D"http=
://windows.microsoft.com/shop">Dal=B9=ED informace.</a>=20

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Good folks,

Some advice please. I am about to organise some keyer ICs for beaconing in
QRSS on 500kHz and 136kHz. Is there a standard message format used for QRSS
beaconing?

I was proposing to use *G3XBM JO02DG* or just *G3XBM* . Is this OK?

73s
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Good folks,<br><br>Some advice please. I am about to organise some keyer=
 ICs for beaconing in QRSS on 500kHz and 136kHz. Is there a standard messa=
ge format used for QRSS beaconing? <br><br>I was proposing to use <b>G3XBM=
 JO02DG</b> or just <b>G3XBM</b> . Is this OK?<br>
<br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>---------------=
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Hello Rik, LF!

This shows great similarities to some studies and tests I did together wit=
h
GM4SLV (Shetland Islands) and GI4DPE (Derry, NI) around the same time of=
 year
during the past years.

We called this phenomenon "early propagation". It usually started with wea=
k
fluttery signals that grew rapidly. Peak signals were very strong consider=
ing
mid-path was still well in daylight. After a period of good "early propaga=
tion"
signals generally became very unstable and weaker, often disappeared compl=
etely
until "normal" propagation in darkness took over.

This happened almost as a rule over the path Shetland - Vaasa (1100kms),=
 but not
Derry - Vaasa (1800kms). Derry - Vaasa came alive only after midpath darkn=
ess.

This was before the introduction of WSPR using normal CW-beaconing so abso=
lute
signals levels are unknown. Tests were mostly conducted as "skeds" and
sometimes I ran a mp3-server with my receiver audio on the www so that the
transmitting parties could monitor their own signals almost in real-time=
 (delay
of 5-10 seconds) while the receiving station was unattended.

Thanks for sharing your findings on this phenomenon, very interesting with=
 more
new input.

BR

Paul-Henrik, OH1LSQ

Quoting Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>:

> Over the past days I monitored the G4JNT WSPR beacon 24/24.
> During daytime I have a weak but consistent copy of Andy's signal,
> average -24dB with ups and down of some dB.
> During nighttime the signal is -10dB on average, with the usual deep
> QSB (peaking -1dB, dips down to -20dB).
> But the most interesting observation is that in the afternoon the
> first peaks (from -24dB up to -8dB) occur as early as 15:45 UTC.
> This is almost 1 hour before sunset (16:37 UTC) and almost 1.5 hours
> before the D-layer (at mid point) goes into darkness.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
>
>




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Please help, Graham - what is THROB-2?
73
Walter DJ2LF / DI2AG

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:28 PM
  Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


  Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency=20
  =20
  TX set  502.000 USB
  Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency=20
  =20
  Repeat time 60  seconds =20
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  RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'  time=20
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  Reports / observations  =20

  Tnx  Graham

  G0NBD - IO83LK =20



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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Running&nbsp; THROB-2-&nbsp; Beacon=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tnx&nbsp; Graham</FONT></DIV>
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Hello Andrey , Henny , John ,

Hello Andrey, Henny, John,

Andrey , I think qe it is well that ! but its signal was very strong ,=20
because my antenna was on the other hand (qtf 295=B0)

73 f1afj


Andrey rn3agc a =E9crit :
> Henny, John, Jean-Pierre,
> Possibly, it OE5ODL...
> OE5ODL at 00.35 (my capture, 3s-window):=20
> http://rn3agc.msk.ru/136-3/0910270034-oe5odl-3.jpg
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> http://rn3agc.msk.ru/filez/091027-signal-pa3cpm.jpg
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> 73 Andrey
>
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>> Hello J-P,John,Andrey,
>> also here the big signal,
>> best 73s
>> henny pa3cpm
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On 17 Oct 2009 at 15:02, G3XBM wrote:

> Got some IRF510 FETs from Graham G3MFJ's club sales, so I've increased
> my 500kHz ERP by around 10dB to around 60uW (microwatts). Already G7NKS
> is spotting me 10dB stronger than ever before, which is an excellent
> sign. 
> 
> All being well, the WSPR beacon will run overnight tonight and all
> reports would be much appreciated.

153000  15  10  2.6   -62  0  G4JNT IO90 23         
153000   8 -20  5.2     8  1  G3XBM JO02 0  

Wow, only 30dB down on G4JNT! Well done Roger.

(sorry cannot upload as I am copying with WSJT7 which doesn't support 
the internet upload - but has an auto soundcard calibrator).

73 Dave G3YMC
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&gt; Got some IRF510 FETs from Graham G3MFJ's club sales, so I've increased<br>
&gt; my 500kHz ERP by around 10dB to around 60uW (microwatts)<wbr>. Already G7NKS<br>
&gt; is spotting me 10dB stronger than ever before, which is an excellent<br>
&gt; sign. <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; All being well, the WSPR beacon will run overnight tonight and all<br>
&gt; reports would be much appreciated.<br>
<br>
153000  15  10  2.6   -62  0  G4JNT IO90 23         <br>
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Wow, only 30dB down on G4JNT! Well done Roger.<br>
<br>
(sorry cannot upload as I am copying with WSJT7 which doesn't support <br>
the internet upload - but has an auto soundcard calibrator).<br>
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73 Dave G3YMC<br>
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Mal 

U were 577 here in Broom.  I could copy you clearly transmitting QSK CQ
G3KEV around 502.5 at 18.15.

 

I can also hear you on QRS3 at 19.45

 

I did try to reply but no copy obviously

 

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Nw qrv 502.57 CW and QRS3 as appropriate for QSO also QSX 7033 for DX QSO's

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Is it a "CON dx" though?

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

 

  _____  

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton
Sent: 21 October 2009 20:20
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Subject: LF: MF CONDX

 

MF condx excellent tonite, just worked JA7NI on 1820 Khz CW his sig 599.

G3KEV

 


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John P-G wrote:
> LF,
>
> Not sure if this is a first for me, but I'm happy nonetheless:
>
> 2009-10-17 22:16 W17XSH 0.503930 -27 0 FN42pb 5 GM4SLV IP90gg 4958
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
> GM4SLV
>
>
Nice one!

Not sure why mine was not working but it seems fine now.

73

Richard
G3CWI

IO83wg



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Hi Roelof,
Yes, the website http://www.blitzortung.org/Webpages/index.php
certainly does give us a very wide coverage. The site is now in my
favourites.

73

Gary - G4WGT.
<http://www.blitzortung.org/Webpages/index.php>

2009/10/8 Roelof Bakker <roelof@ndb.demon.nl>

> Hello Gary,
>
> Though this is a nice site for thunderstorm watchers, it does not cover
> the main source of wintertime QRN: the Mediterranean!
>
> And yes at the distance it is still causing a lot of trouble.
>
> 73,
> Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt
>
>
>

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Hi Roelof,<div><br></div><div>Yes, the website=A0<span class=3D"Apple-styl=
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ollapse: collapse; "><a href=3D"http://www.blitzortung.org/Webpages/index.=
php" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: rgb(119, 153, 187); ">http://www.bl=
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<div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><span cla=
ss=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: collapse;">certainly doe=
s give us a very wide coverage. The site is now in my favourites.</span></=
font></div>
<div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><span cla=
ss=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: collapse;"><br></span></=
font></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"arial, sans-serif=
"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: collapse;">73=
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<div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><span cla=
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ry - G4WGT.</span></font></div>
<div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 13px; "><a href=
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 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Hello Gary,<br>
<br>
Though this is a nice site for thunderstorm watchers, it does not cover<br=
>
the main source of wintertime QRN: the Mediterranean!<br>
<br>
And yes at the distance it is still causing a lot of trouble.<br>
<br>
73,<br>
<font color=3D"#888888">Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt<br>
<br>
<br>
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Chris=20

Had a look around Wikipedia , re  phase , -3 db , margins , that sort=
 of thing ..as for  removing bits ... would not be the  first person=
 to  run into allsorts of  problems getting a  (137k )  amp to  run on=
 500  'with' half the bits chopped out ..and  still  zapp the  out put=
 devices ...  easier to agree with  MAL  =20

(apart from the class  d/e bit that is I think there is still a lot =
 of un-known's /gray noise etc associated with the  concept .. article=
s like this  seem to address the  'un spoken' >  http://www.qsl.net/wm=
5z/qex199907.pdf < the subject of heat dissipation in magnetic's hover=
s in the background as well for these amplifiers)=20

G ..=20


From: Chris=20
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 2:13 PM
To: RSGB LF Group=20
Subject: LF: AF Amps at 136


Hi All,
Just started constructing TX for 136kHz, noticed Maplin do a Velleman=
 audio PA kit that is rated at 200W (100W RMS into 4R). OK there's no=
 mains transformer or heat sink, but reckon it's good value at =A314.9=
9. Point is the specs also say the minus 3db frequency response is 3Hz=
 / 200kHz.
The RSGB books 'LF Today' refer to using audio amps as PAs at 136 with=
 'a few modifications'. Does anybody know where these modifications ar=
e documented? I guess there's nothing major, reduce a few cap values?=
 Remove Zobel Network etc.?? If anyone has experience with this approa=
ch I would appreciate some hints. Thanks.
Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable.


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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Chris </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Had a look around Wikipedia , re&nbsp=
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: AF Amps at 136</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Hi All,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Just started constructing TX for 136k=
Hz, noticed=20
Maplin do a Velleman audio PA kit that is rated at 200W (100W RMS into=
 4R). OK=20
there's no mains transformer or heat sink, but reckon it's good value=
 at =A314.99.=20
Point is the specs also say the minus 3db&nbsp;frequency response is=
 3Hz&nbsp;/=20
200kHz.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>The RSGB books 'LF Today' refer to us=
ing audio amps=20
as PAs at 136 with 'a few modifications'. Does anybody know where thes=
e=20
modifications are documented? I guess there's nothing major, reduce a=
 few cap=20
values? Remove Zobel Network etc.?? If anyone has experience with this=
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I would appreciate some hints. Thanks.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable.</FONT></DIV=
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Hi Jay,
I will be sending a beacon signal QRSS3 on 501.1kHz until 2330z.
I have modified my old PL519 TV sweep tube transmitter which ran about 
60 to 70W. It now has two PL519s in parallel running 120W.
I have taken down the HF quad until the sunspots wake up a bit and 
reinstalled the antenna used for 73/136kHz so I am now running close to 
the new ERP limit.


Peter, G3LDO


> Mal
>
> I check your frequency. Sunset here isn't until 2230Z...what time do 
> you QRT?
>
> How about a beacon signal? ;~)
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 11:34 AM
> Subject: LF: Re: Propagation report
>
>
>> Warren
>> Great propagation around EU and Russia at present on 500. I have been 
>> copied in Russia and eastern EU while daylight here, also 160m is 
>> good with daytime reception and QSO'S as far as the Moscow area
>> Probably good to the west but not sure if anyone is monitoring in the 
>> USA during evening time here.
>> 73 de mal/g3kev
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
>> To: "rsgb_lf_group" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 4:18 PM
>> Subject: LF: Propagation report
>>
>>
>>> I have noted that Alan Melia has not updated his propagation  report
>>> since the 7th of July!
>>> Hope all is well with Alan!
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> 73 Warren K2ORS
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Hello Warren,LF,
Capture XGJ,
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello Warren,LF,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Capture XGJ,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het 
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Hi Mal!
Not a lot of antennas owners are the same to you.
30m high vert impossible to many ops.
40m sloper is a crystal dream to many hams in Moscow now for example.

* mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> [Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:17:46 
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> Most GRABBERS are not available most of the time, either switched off 
or
> have poor antennas lacking sensitivity.  Not reliable.
> I often hear signals which do not appear on the GRABBERS.
> G3KEV




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Hi LF,
Capture WHO ?
Henny pa3cpm
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi LF,</FONT></DIV>
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Hi Steve,
Although I have not been uploading captures today until now (1348utc) there
is no problem with my site, it has been displaying a message "Grabber
Temporary Off Line" as I do my PC maintenance on a Monday (hard disk
backup's etc).

You will find that some (maybe most) of the other grabbers are random but
mine is 24/7.

Here is the url again just in case :-

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html

<http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html>73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.

2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra.com>

>  G'day Gary,
>
> There currently seems to be a rend in the time-space continuum here down
> under in VK-land....
>
> Apart from your site - for which I get a "can't connect".
>
> From the links on the Google site I get the following results.
>
> 1. GM4SLV - last grab Jan 2009.
> 2. CT1DRP - last grab Nov 2008.
> 3. Hartmut Wolff - last grab Nov 2008.
> 4. GM4ISM - can't connect.
> 5. DF6NM - last grab May 2008.
> 6. RN3AGC - can't connect.
>
> The only one that works is the http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/ link.
>
> What am I missing ?
>
> 73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> *Sent:* Monday, October 05, 2009 8:28 PM
> *Subject:* Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers....
>
> Hi Steve,
> A small list of grabbers on the UK500KHZ Group web site at :-
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers
>
> Also my own grabber page for the UK, EU & USA bands at :-
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.
>
>  <http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers>
>
> 2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra.com>
>
>> G'day All,
>>
>> In an expression of extreme optimism I am interested in getting details of
>> 500kc beacons (preferably QRSS30 and slower) in Europe.    To get real-time
>> confirmation of on-air status I am also looking for relevant local grabbers
>> for those beacons.
>>
>> 73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)
>>
>>
>

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Hi Steve,<div><br></div><div>Although I have not been uploading captures=
 today until now (1348utc) there is no problem with my site, it has been=
 displaying a message &quot;Grabber Temporary Off Line&quot; as I do my PC=
 maintenance on a Monday (hard disk backup&#39;s etc).</div>
<div><br></div><div>You will find that some (maybe most) of the other grab=
bers are random but mine is 24/7.</div><div><br></div><div>Here is the url=
 again just in case :-</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://myweb.ti=
scali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html">http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/gr=
abber2.html</a></div>
<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber=
2.html"></a>73</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.<br><br><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:vk2zto@djirra.com">vk2zto@djirra.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">





<div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">G&#39;day Gary,</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">There currently seems to be a rend in=
 the=20
time-space continuum here down under in VK-land....</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Apart from your site - for which I ge=
t a &quot;can&#39;t=20
connect&quot;.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">From the links on=A0the Google site=
 I get the=20
following results.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">1. GM4SLV - last grab Jan 2009.</font=
></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">2. CT1DRP - last grab Nov 2008.</font=
></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">3. Hartmut Wolff - last grab Nov 2008=
.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">4. GM4ISM - can&#39;t connect.</font>=
</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">5. DF6NM - last grab May 2008.</font>=
</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">6. RN3AGC - can&#39;t connect.</font>=
</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">The only one that works is the <a hre=
f=3D"http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">=
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"Times New Roman">http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/=
</font></a>=A0link.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">What am I missing ?</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)</font></div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-left:#000000 2px solid;padding-left:5px;paddin=
g-right:0px;margin-left:5px;margin-right:0px" dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"im=
">
  <div style=3D"font:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
  <div style=3D"font:10pt arial;background:#e4e4e4"><b>From:</b>=20
  <a title=3D"g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk" href=3D"mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk" tar=
get=3D"_blank">Gary -=20
  G4WGT</a> </div>
  <div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org" href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank"=
>rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>=20
  </div>
  <div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 05, 2009 8:2=
8=20
  PM</div>
  <div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: LF: 500kc beacons and=
=20
  grabbers....</div>
  <div><br></div></div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">Hi Steve,
  <div><br></div>
  <div>A small list of grabbers on the UK500KHZ Group web site at :-</div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div><a href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grab=
bers" target=3D"_blank">http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-kh=
z-grabbers</a></div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div>Also my own grabber page for the UK, EU &amp; USA bands at :-</div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div><a href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html" targe=
t=3D"_blank">http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html</a></div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div>73</div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.</div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div><a href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grab=
bers" target=3D"_blank"></a><br><br>
  <div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:vk2zto@djirra.com" target=3D"_blank">vk2zto@djirra.com</a>&gt;=
</span><br>
  <blockquote style=3D"border-left:#ccc 1px solid;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
;padding-left:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">G&#39;day All,<br><br>In an expre=
ssion of extreme optimism I=20
    am interested in getting details of 500kc beacons (preferably QRSS30=
 and=20
    slower) in Europe. =A0 =A0To get real-time confirmation of on-air=20
    status I am also looking for relevant local grabbers for those=20
    beacons.<br><br>73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)=20
<br><br></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></blockquote></div>
</blockquote></div><br></div>

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Hi Szigy
Glad the card arrived. Tnx qso will look for u agn
de mal/g3kev

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> From: YO2IS
>  Pleased to receive today a nice QSL, from G3KEV, Mal,
> confirming our crossband CW QSO 502.5 / 7033 KHz.
> It's a first one for me and a new one for YO ...
>  Will randomly run the YO2X beacon testing the setup.
> QRG 505.763 KHz, 41m sloping wire and abt 100W input
> PIC keyer in QRSS3 and CW id.
>  Some 137.7 KHz activity is also planned depending on
> the level of the urban QRM. Have to test for 137 KHz
> reception, the K9AY loop versus the tunned multiturn-
> loop located under the roof etc.
>  BTW, some days ago got the 'RSGB 136KHz Award' #10
> for 6 confirmed DXCC entities ( 3 on CW, 3 on QRSS3 ).
>  Hope the cold weather will bring more trafic on VLF.
>    73 & DX, Szigy.
>


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Hi Jim, LF,
Copy of message from Lars (below).

73

Gary - G4WGT.

* *

*Grimeton Radio/SAQ transmission CW on VLF 17.2 kHz*

* *

**

**We deeply regret we have to *cancel* the previously announced transmission
on United Nations Day, October 24th 2009.



Next planned transmission will be on Christmas Eve, December 24th
2009, at 08:00
UTC.







Lars

SM6NM



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2009/10/21 Roelof Bakker <roelof@ndb.demon.nl>

> Hello Jim,
>
> I have seen a message that this transmission has been cancelled.
> And yes, your mini-whip will do.
>
> I even used it with Johan Bodin's great program directly fed into my
> soundcard.
>
> Best regards,
> Roelof, pa0rdt
>
>

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<u><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size: 16pt; font-family: &#39;Times=
 New Roman&#39;; "><strong>Grimeton Radio/SAQ transmission CW on VLF 17.2=
 kHz</strong></span></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-top: 0c=
m; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; ">
<u><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size: 16pt; font-family: &#39;Times=
 New Roman&#39;; "><span style=3D"text-decoration: none; "><strong>=A0</st=
rong></span></span></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-top: 0cm=
; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; ">
<u><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size: 16pt; font-family: &#39;Times=
 New Roman&#39;; "><span style=3D"text-decoration: none; "></span></span><=
/u>=A0</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right:=
 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; ">
<u><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size: 16pt; font-family: &#39;Times=
 New Roman&#39;; "><span style=3D"text-decoration: none; "></span></span><=
/u><font size=3D"3"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-weight: normal; fon=
t-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; ">We deeply regret we have to=A0<u>ca=
ncel</u>=A0the previously announced transmission on United Nations Day,=A0=
</span><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-weight: normal; font-family: &#3=
9;Times New Roman&#39;; ">October 24<sup>th</sup>=A02009</span><span lang=
=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-weight: normal; font-family: &#39;Times New Roman=
&#39;; ">.</span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin=
-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-weigh=
t: normal; font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; "><font size=3D"3">=A0<=
/font></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin=
-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><font size=3D"3"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" st=
yle=3D"font-weight: normal; font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; ">Next=
 planned transmission will be on Christmas Eve,=A0</span><span lang=3D"EN-=
GB" style=3D"font-weight: normal; font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;;=
 ">December 24<sup>th</sup>=A02009</span><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"fon=
t-weight: normal; font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; ">, at=A0</span>=
<span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-weight: normal; font-family: &#39;Times=
 New Roman&#39;; ">08:00 UTC</span><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-weig=
ht: normal; font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; ">.</span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin=
-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-weigh=
t: normal; font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; "><font size=3D"3">=A0<=
/font></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin=
-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-weigh=
t: normal; font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; "><font size=3D"3">=A0<=
/font></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin=
-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-weigh=
t: normal; font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; "><font size=3D"3">=A0<=
/font></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin=
-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-weigh=
t: normal; font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; "><font size=3D"3"><spa=
n class=3D"il" style=3D"background-image: initial; background-repeat: init=
ial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -we=
bkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 204); bac=
kground-position: initial initial; ">Lars</span></font></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin=
-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-weigh=
t: normal; font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; "><font size=3D"3">SM6N=
M</font></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin=
-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-weigh=
t: normal; font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; "><font size=3D"3">=A0<=
/font></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin=
-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-famil=
y: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; "><strong><font size=3D"3">=A0</font></stron=
g></span></p>
</span><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/21 Roelof Bakker <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:roelof@ndb.demon.nl">roelof@ndb.demon.nl</a=
>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8=
ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Hello Jim,<br>
<br>
I have seen a message that this transmission has been cancelled.<br>
And yes, your mini-whip will do.<br>
<br>
I even used it with Johan Bodin&#39;s great program directly fed into my=
 soundcard.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
Roelof, pa0rdt<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br></div>

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Hi Andrey
Pse look at 502.57 starting at 1800 utc CW and QRS3
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> Hello LF'ers,
> QRV RCV today WSPR-beacons on 500 kHz (503850+/-) till the morning.
> Also QRSS3 above frequency 502.350. If someone is going to work in 
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I have noted that Alan Melia has not updated his propagation  report
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My 500kHz QRPp WSPR beacon is active again this evening. It will be off
between 8-9pm as I have a sked on 2m but should be back on again afterwards
and through the night.  As before, all reports welcomed.

PS should be TXing on 500kHz CW within a few days when the full transverter
is finished. I look forward to working Mel G3KEV and Chris G3XIZ (amongst
others) who are both stations I have heard many times.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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My 500kHz QRPp WSPR beacon is active again this evening. It will be off be=
tween 8-9pm as I have a sked on 2m but should be back on again afterwards=
 and through the night.=A0 As before, all reports welcomed.<br><br>PS shou=
ld be TXing on 500kHz CW within a few days when the full transverter is fi=
nished. I look forward to working Mel G3KEV and Chris G3XIZ (amongst other=
s) who are both stations I have heard many times.<br>
<br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM <br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>----------------------=
---------------------------------------<br><a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blo=
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xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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Hi All,
Gary: Could the undecoded signal you saw have been G3XBM, according to=
 me he was on 503933?
WSPR decodes here last night from G3XBM, G4JNT, G7NKS, OR7T and SM6BHZ=
.=20
Horst: Agree with most comments on the PA0DRT active antenna. Mine wor=
ks very well, signal strength is less than my long wire (at 500kHz),=
 but the signal to noise ratio much better. At 136kHz and lower the si=
gnal strength is much better than the (non resonant) long wire. Its pe=
rformance is quite impressive.
Jim: SAQ is usually an excellent fully audible signal here on the PA0D=
RT active antenna.
Vy 73, Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, (JO01MI).

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G3XBM, according to me he was on 503933?</FONT></DIV>
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Julian Hardstone wrote:
> Perfectly good signal in Stockport, Richard (on a small loop)

Thanks Julian. Short path or long path?

Hope that you are well.

73

Richard
G3CWI



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I'm trying to set up Argo, I can get copy on the vertical waterfall but 
not the horizontal, any tips chaps?

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Dear Chris, LF Group,

G4AYT wrote:
...> comments referring to a stations ERP by various operators : 'Estimate', 
'Guess', 'Approx.', 'Reckon I'm fairly close to...', 'Approaching' etc. 
Nobody REALLY knows exactly! ...>

This is true of any measurement - nobody can measure ERP or anything else 
"exactly"; the issue is how much uncertainty exists in the measured result.

If you predict ERP based on antenna current and dimensions, my experience is 
that the "real" value from field strength measurements will be lower by 
about 0 - 6dB due to effects of the environment around the antenna. There is 
also the uncertainty in measurement of RF current, and the physical 
dimensions of the antenna, which might amount to a few dB, depending on how 
well it is done.

For field strength measurements, the measuring antenna and receiver 
calibration can be done with amateur facilities to within 1 - 2dB with care. 
I have found measuring LF/MF field strengths is repeatable within about 1dB 
with a given TX antenna, however the ERP calculated from individual 
measurements varies by +/- a few dB, depending on the location where the 
measurement was done. So it has been my practice to calculate the ERP as an 
average between a dozen or so locations.

This may sound vague, but it does mean being able to predict ERP and field 
strength over reasonable distances to within a few decibels, a fraction of 
an 'S' point. Compared with the way amateurs normally specify radiated 
signal strength, this is fantastic precision. In particular, the traditional 
way of stating TX output power and describing the antenna is quantitatively 
almost meaningless, especially where small antennas in less-than-ideal 
locations are concerned. Hence some stations "get out well" compared to 
other apparently similar stations using this type of description.

...>I don't know what the answer is, but it is clear that ERP at LF is far 
more complex than at VHF/UHF etc. where 'full size' antennas are generally 
used....>

I expect this is true up to a point, although somebody specifying the gain 
of an antenna to the nearest 0.1dB doesn't mean the gain and ERP is actually 
known with anything like that accuracy. I think there is major difference 
between LF and VHF/UHF. At VHF/UHF, you would consider a signal with a 
particular ERP radiated by an antenna being subject to separate effects such 
as absorbtion, reflection, re-radiation, etc. by objects in the environment 
nearby which would affect the field strength at a distant point. At LF/MF, 
the surrounding environment is so close to the antenna in terms of 
wavelengths that it affects the impedance and radiation resistance of the 
antenna, and has to be considered as part of the antenna, with a direct 
effect on the ERP.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 



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Dear LF
WSPR OR7T raport:
1858 -14  0.7   0.503801  0 OR7T JO20 23
1904  -9  0.8   0.503802  0 OR7T JO20 23
1908 -13  1.0   0.503802  0 OR7T JO20 23
1916  -8  1.0   0.503803  0 OR7T JO20 23
1924 -11  0.9   0.503803  0 OR7T JO20 23
1932 -19  0.8   0.503803  0 OR7T JO20 23
1938 -14  1.0   0.503803  0 OR7T JO20 23
1946 -13  0.9   0.503804  0 OR7T JO20 23
1950 -13  0.9   0.503804  0 OR7T JO20 23
1956 -23  1.1   0.503805  0 OR7T JO20 23
2002  -9  1.0   0.503805  0 OR7T JO20 23
2010  -7  1.0   0.503805  0 OR7T JO20 23
2016 -16  0.9   0.503806  0 OR7T JO20 23
2020  -9  0.9   0.503806  0 OR7T JO20 23
Recived on Club SP2KDS 160m dipole antenna.
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Marcin SQ2BXI

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According to the chap who gave the EMC/PLT lecture at the RSGB HFC at
Wyboston, plasma screens and the like contain an excellent mains filter.  He
showed one from a scrap Sony tv 

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

Dr. James Cowburn

 

  _____  

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton
Sent: 15 October 2009 17:15
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Subject: LF: PARTS SOURCE

 

I have just stripped down a SAMSUNG flat screen TV. There are scores of FETS
of all varieties and heatsinks. Ideal parts source for the LF/MF TX builder.

plus some nice toroid transformers.

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Ok,Nicolas,

I blow up the pl-519s,and now i wil use the first from ropex.
I had already 2 amps into the antenne but on the wrong freq
just into the cw band hi,

best 73s

henny cpm
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  Thanx Henny,beacon to RN3AGC's grabber without success last night.

  F4DTL Nicolas




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  Hi LF,
  Capture DTL
  Henny pa3cpm
  73s
  Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden=
 verzonden:
  DTL 27-10.jpg

  Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen vir=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ok,Nicolas,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I blow up the pl-519s,and now i wil=
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from ropex.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I had already 2 amps into the antenne=
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wrong freq</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>just into the cw band hi,</FONT></DIV=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>henny cpm</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV>Thanx Henny,beacon to RN3AGC's grabber&nbsp;without success las=
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Piotr MÅ‚ynarski" <sq7mpj@toya.net.pl>
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> mal hamilton wrote:
>

Tnx Piotr
Nice qso solid 599 ur cw sig. Direct qsl is faster if u need one.
73 and agn tnx de mal/g3kev

>
> Dear Mal,
> tnx very much for my first x-band 500kc(qrss3)/7Mhz(CW)  qso.  Of
> course, i will  also confirm  our qso via qsl card.
> please  tell me whether it may  go direct or via the bureau
> you will find (enclosed) the last characters of ur qrss3 transmission.-
> indeed a perfect  and strong signal here , in poland  at this moment
> RX side: 1sq meter loop with a simple homemade buffer/amplifier and ft857d
> TX side:  ic746pro / w3dzz
>
>                                                      73 de  Piotr, sq7mpj
>
> qth: Lodz /jo91rs/
>
>


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Hello LF!

0240  -6  1.7   0.503950  0 M0BMU IO91 33
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Hello LF!<br><br>0240&nbsp; -6&nbsp; 1.7&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.503950&nbsp; 0 M0BM=
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hallo nicolas !
after your cq call i was  calling you, but  no answer ,after a time i 
leave my shake fore a time ...
your signal was  readable .
now i saw you calling me but it was to late sorry so ,
i will  now starting a few cq calls 73 de ossi


F4DTL@aol.com schrieb:
> Hello Ossi,sorry I missed your call.I saw it with the DF6NM's grabber.
> I try to calling you on 137720.
>  
> */73 de F4DTL Nicolas/*

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hallo nicolas !<br>
after your cq call i was&nbsp; calling you, but&nbsp; no answer ,after a time i
leave my shake fore a time ...<br>
your signal was&nbsp; readable .<br>
now i saw you calling me but it was to late sorry so ,<br>
i will&nbsp; now starting a few cq calls 73 de ossi<br>
<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:F4DTL@aol.com">F4DTL@aol.com</a> schrieb:
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I have just stripped down a SAMSUNG flat screen TV. There are scores=
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plus some nice toroid transformers.
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Hello Steve,

> 6. RN3AGC - can't connect.

Now the grabber here: http://rn3agc.msk.ru/grabber
Usually the grabber works on 136 khz. But if it will be necessary, I can switch it on 500 khz.

73 Andrey rn3agc 


> G'day Gary,
> 
> There currently seems to be a rend in the time-space continuum here down under in VK-land....
> 
> Apart from your site - for which I get a "can't connect".
> 
> From the links on the Google site I get the following results.
> 
> 1. GM4SLV - last grab Jan 2009.
> 2. CT1DRP - last grab Nov 2008.
> 3. Hartmut Wolff - last grab Nov 2008.
> 4. GM4ISM - can't connect.
> 5. DF6NM - last grab May 2008.
> 6. RN3AGC - can't connect.
> 
> The only one that works is the http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/ link.
> 
> What am I missing ?
> 
> 73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)


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Tnx Warren for the interest but I only work QSO mode. If I knew what time u 
are actually listening I will TX and have a QSO on 500 or qsx 7033
flexible operating this end.
73 de mal/g3kev

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> Mal
>
> I check your frequency. Sunset here isn't until 2230Z...what time do you
> QRT?
>
> How about a beacon signal? ;~)
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
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>
>> Warren
>> Great propagation around EU and Russia at present on 500. I have been
>> copied in Russia and eastern EU while daylight here, also 160m is good
>> with daytime reception and QSO'S as far as the Moscow area
>> Probably good to the west but not sure if anyone is monitoring in the USA
>> during evening time here.
>> 73 de mal/g3kev
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
>> To: "rsgb_lf_group" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 4:18 PM
>> Subject: LF: Propagation report
>>
>>
>>>I have noted that Alan Melia has not updated his propagation  report
>>> since the 7th of July!
>>> Hope all is well with Alan!
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> 73 Warren K2ORS
>>>                WD2XGJ
>>>                WD2XSH/23
>>>                WE2XEB/2
>>>                WE2XGR/1
>>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
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>
>


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hi Gary=20
many thanks for the capture
good evening
Claude F8boj JN16WA
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Hi LF,


  Captured last night (2308utc - 01/10/2009).




  73


  Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo

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Hello Jim!
I sent you a letter about 4 weeks ago. Do you receive it, please?
It was my QSL for our 137kHz QSO inside.

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS

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> From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 08:13:47 +0000
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> Dear Vernon, Lubos, LF Group,
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Hello Jim!<br>I sent you a letter about 4 weeks ago. Do you receive it, pl=
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88KS<br><br>******************************<br>&gt; From: james.moritz@btop=
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Hi Roger

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Your new set up is working well!  At least 8 to 10dB better then befor=
e.
You are now romping in at -20dB and loads of decodes

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Top work.  You'll be working A1AA next!!!

=20

With best regards

=20

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Jim

=20

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Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS

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With best regards

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Jim

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Roger Lapthor=
n
Sent: 21 October 2009 18:53
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Best receiving antenna wanted

=20

I built a version of the PA0RDT mini-whip just using an MPF102 and 2N3=
904
and it did a quite credible job on 136 and 500kHz even using it in the
shack. It would be even better out in the clear away from the house no=
ise
sources.

73s=20
Roger G3XBM=20

2009/10/21 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Hi Horst, Jim, LF,

=20

Same here, I have used a PA0RDT Mini-Whip active antenna for a good wh=
ile
now & it's performance is very good right down to 10kHz, may even go=
 lower
if I knew what to look for !!!

=20

My online grabbers use the Mini-Whip antenna.

=20

73,

=20

Gary - G4WGT.

2009/10/21 James Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.net>

=20

Hi Horst

I've just installed one of Roelof Bakker's (PA0RDT) active mini whips=
 and it
is excellent at my QTH.  Just my view, others may have different exper=
iences

With best regards


Jim


Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS


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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Horst St=F6ck=
er
Sent: 21 October 2009 17:26
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Best receiving antenna wanted

Hello,
now that I am happy with my selectiv level meter Praecitronic MV-62 I=
 am
looking for the best receicing antenna.
Especially I am interested in 400khz, 136kHz, 72kHz and below 22 kHz.=
 With
my 40m longwire reception is not good enough and with a frame antenna=
 of
900m copper wire it was disappointing, too..
I think, an active antenna for 0 to 500 MHz would be the best for me=
 - but I
am looking forward to any other idea.
vy73 Horst DO1KHS
_______________________________________________________________
Neu: WEB.DE DSL bis 50.000 kBit/s und 200,- Euro Startguthaben!
http://produkte.web.de/go/02/




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e=3D'font-size:  10.0pt'>Your new set up is working well! =A0At least=
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span styl=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'fo=
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nt></b><font size=3D2  face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:Tahoma'> owner-<st1:PersonName  w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@b=
lacksheep.org</st1:PersonName> [mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName  w:st=3D"=
on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName>] <b><span  style=3D'=
font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Roger Lapthorn<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 21 October 2009=
 18:53<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:s=
t=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: LF: RE: Be=
st
receiving antenna wanted</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D3  fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>I built a vers=
ion of the
PA0RDT mini-whip just using an MPF102 and 2N3904 and it did a quite cr=
edible
job on 136 and 500kHz even using it in the shack. It would be even bet=
ter out
in the clear away from the house noise sources.<br>
<br>
73s <br>
Roger G3XBM <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size:  12.0pt'>Same here, I have used a PA0RDT Mini-Whip ac=
tive antenna for a good
while now &amp; it's performance is very good right down to 10kHz, may=
 even go
lower if I knew what to look for !!!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D3  fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Gary - G4WGT.<=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size:  12.0pt'>2009/10/21 James Cowburn &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:james.cowburn@virgin.net"  target=3D"_blank">james.cowburn@virgin.n=
et</a>&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D3  fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Hi Horst<br>
<br>
I've just installed one of Roelof Bakker's (PA0RDT) active mini whips=
 and it<br>
is excellent at my QTH. &nbsp;Just my view, others may have different
experiences<br>
<br>
With best regards<br>
<br>
<br>
Jim<br>
<br>
<br>
Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS<br>
<br>
<br>
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_blank">owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a><br>
[mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=
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On Behalf Of Horst St=F6cker<br>
Sent: 21 October 2009 17:26<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank">=
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a><br>
Subject: LF: Best receiving antenna wanted<br>
<br>
Hello,<br>
now that I am happy with my selectiv level meter Praecitronic MV-62 I=
 am<br>
looking for the best receicing antenna.<br>
Especially I am interested in 400khz, 136kHz, 72kHz and below 22 kHz.=
 With<br>
my 40m longwire reception is not good enough and with a frame antenna=
 of<br>
900m copper wire it was disappointing, too..<br>
I think, an active antenna for 0 to 500 MHz would be the best for me=
 - but I<br>
am looking forward to any other idea.<br>
vy73 Horst DO1KHS<br>
_______________________________________________________________<br>
Neu: <a href=3D"http://WEB.DE" target=3D"_blank">WEB.DE</a> DSL bis 50=
.000 kBit/s
und 200,- Euro Startguthaben!<br>
<a href=3D"http://produkte.web.de/go/02/" target=3D"_blank">http://pro=
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<br>
<br>
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Jim,
=20
Thanks very much for the explanation it's very helpful. Too bad there aren=
't very many calibrated receivers and antennas.
=20
73,
=20
David Weinreich
WA2VUJ/3

>>>=20

From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
To:<rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Date: 10/07/09 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: LF:  Re Propagation report
Dear David, LF Group,

There are basically two ways of determining ERP, briefly:

Method 1 is to calculate the radiation resistance (Rrad) of your antenna,=
=20
which can be done using various text-book formulae, or using antenna=20
simulation software like EZNEC or similar. Then you measure the RF current=
=20
flowing in the antenna (Iant). The ERP is then Iant^2 x Rrad x 1.8 (1.8 is=
=20
the directivity of electrically small vertical or loop antennas, which in=
=20
practice is what all amateur 136kHz antennas are).

Method 2 is to measure the field strength some km from the antenna. The ER=
P=20
is then (E x d)^2 /49, where E is the field strength, d distance in metres=
.=20
This requires a calibrated antenna and measuring receiver, so is more=20
complicated to do.

Method 1 is simpler to do, but yields ERP results that tend to be lower th=
an=20
those obtained by method 2. This is thought to be due to various combined=
=20
environmental effects on the antenna, which are not accounted for in the=
=20
simple calculation. So to get a more accurate and definitive figure, you=
=20
need to do method 2, but as far as compliance with licence conditions is=
=20
concerned, method 1 is a conservative way of checking.

Good luck in your efforts!

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re Propagation report


Peter,

As an interested observer from the other side of the pond, how do you=20
determine that you are close to the ERP limit?? I'd be interested in knowi=
ng=20
as I am trying to do some pro-bono work for the ARRL on getting use of 137=
=20
kHz here in the USA.

Tnx & 73,

David Weinreich
WA2VUJ/3




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<DIV>Thanks very much for the explanation it's very helpful. Too bad there=
 aren't very many calibrated receivers and antennas.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>David Weinreich</DIV>
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<TD><STRONG>From: </STRONG></TD>
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<TD>Re: LF:&nbsp; Re Propagation report</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Dear Davi=
d, LF Group,<BR><BR>There are basically two ways of determining ERP, brief=
ly:<BR><BR>Method 1 is to calculate the radiation resistance (Rrad) of you=
r antenna, <BR>which can be done using various text-book formulae, or usin=
g antenna <BR>simulation software like EZNEC or similar. Then you measure=
 the RF current <BR>flowing in the antenna (Iant). The ERP is then Iant^2=
 x Rrad x 1.8 (1.8 is <BR>the directivity of electrically small vertical=
 or loop antennas, which in <BR>practice is what all amateur 136kHz antenn=
as are).<BR><BR>Method 2 is to measure the field strength some km from the=
 antenna. The ERP <BR>is then (E x d)^2 /49, where E is the field strength=
, d distance in metres. <BR>This requires a calibrated antenna and measuri=
ng receiver, so is more <BR>complicated to do.<BR><BR>Method 1 is simpler=
 to do, but yields ERP results that tend to be lower than <BR>those obtain=
ed by method 2. This is thought to be due to various combined <BR>environm=
ental effects on the antenna, which are not accounted for in the <BR>simpl=
e calculation. So to get a more accurate and definitive figure, you <BR>ne=
ed to do method 2, but as far as compliance with licence conditions is <BR=
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 for the ARRL on getting use of 137 <BR>kHz here in the USA.<BR><BR>Tnx &a=
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Ive put up and refined the 500Khz listening system here in Wasilla/Palmer=
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Antennae is K9AY in Omni mode (2 loops) - K9AY not as sensitive as I would=
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Ive put up and refined the 500Khz listening system here in Wasilla/Palmer=
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&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;Ill leave the receiver on dial 502.4USB WSPR for the next period +24=
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Antennae is K9AY in Omni mode (2 loops) - K9AY not as sensitive as I would=
 like on 137&nbsp;in this config but looks good at 500.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Ive up a probe for LF VLF but this requires cabling which I just didnt hav=
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Im now traveling again and wont have control of the AK receiver for the ne=
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G'day All,

In an expression of extreme optimism I am interested in getting details of 
500kc beacons (preferably QRSS30 and slower) in Europe.    To get real-time 
confirmation of on-air status I am also looking for relevant local grabbers 
for those beacons.

73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV) 



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On 23/10/2009 at 10:36 James Cowburn wrote:

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>Is the UK now not a 10w ERP limit? =20

Thanks for the update.  Things may have moved on, but we don't have 505 he=
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73
John F5VLF




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Excellent condx last nite. JA stns galore all evening and later plenty=
 of USA acty on 160 m MF, expect 600 metres the same.
Last nite would have been a good opportunity for USA /EU QSO'S on 600m
G3KEV

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  =20
  Greetings -=20
  =20
  Reasonable at MF towards Eu but spoilt by QRM at my end. QRM is comi=
ng from a wayward overmodulated/driven MF coast station that should kn=
ow better..
  =20
  Decodes from Gus
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        2009-10-21 19:18   SM6BHZ   0.503924   -27   0   JO57wq   1 =
  BY3A   OM89ua   7254   55 =20
         2009-10-21 19:14   SM6BHZ   0.503924   -24   0   JO57wq   1=
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  =20
  This was a peak of signals from Gus - the "opening" lasted about an=
 hour (abt my 0300 local) or so with an abrupt increase and slow fade=
 out - Some evidence of other WSPR carriers on assigned freqs but no=
 decode.
  =20
  =20
  137 was quiet with  "W" on DFCW of probably WPF coming thru strongly=
 till after my dawn - no Western Eu stations fully decoded but some ch=
aracters.
  =20
  Tonight will be my last night here "MFLing and "LFLing" in China for=
 a few weeks as I wander over to KL7 and thence XE. I qrt in China in=
 late Dec
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  Laurence
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>&nbsp;<BR>Greetings - <BR>&nbsp;<BR>Reasonable at MF=
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 of=20
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On 07/10/2009 at 20:06 Gary - G4WGT wrote:

>Hi LF,
>Looks like some electrical storms in western Europe causing almost total
>wipe-out of the grabbers here.
>
>Also lots of loud static crashes on 136kHz.

Here they are as strong as Europe No 1, which has 2MW and a 5 element arra=
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great
I will leave the station running at 33% TX for another hour or so and  
then to RX

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Vernon <vmath@eastlink.ca>:

> just decoded OR7T at 2210 on .503867
>
>




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hi Nicolas
Many thanks for the report activity 137 khz=20
Nicolas ur O O O...very strong...3 stations on 137 khz for my..BWO DTL=
 and qso with IK5ZPV....
friend Valerio...MM received
good lf for to day..
Claude F8BOJ JN16WA

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<DIV>hi Nicolas</DIV>
<DIV>Many thanks for the report activity 137 khz </DIV>
<DIV>Nicolas ur O O O...very strong...3 stations on 137 khz for my..BW=
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qso with IK5ZPV....</DIV>
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Hallo Werner,

EI0CF ist hier auch sehr gut zu hören,ruft jetzt gerade CQ.
Die K9 ist wesentlich besser im SNR als der Dipol,etwa so 6dB.

73
Clemens
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  Hello Finbar!
  I listen to your regular CW signal on 501.055kHz. You have got a contact with VX9MRC. Your 
signal is FB 589!

  Lubos, OK2BVG


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Hallo Werner,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>EI0CF ist hier auch sehr gut zu h=F6ren,ruft=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Die K9 ist wesentlich besser im SNR als der=20
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With eight unique stations copying me so far this evening I'm going to leave
the <1mW ERP 500kHz WSPR beaconing *running overnight* in the hope that I
can get a 20th station to copy me.

I'd* love* to be received by Gus SM6BHZ in Sweden and this is <100kms
further than John GM4SLV in the Shetlands, so is not an impossibility on a
good night.

We live on hope, optimism and good luck!

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With eight unique stations copying me so far this evening I&#39;m going to=
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Hello Warren, LF!
I saw part of your callsign only.

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Andy Talbot wrote:
> ---
> There is no 'chance' involved.  The strong source coding employed in 
> all the WSJT modes to get the number of bits to be encoded down to an 
> absolute minimum, before proper error correction is added, removes all 
> wasted redundancy in the original callsign format.   This has the 
> result that most _truly random_ bit patterns will therefore generate a 
> valid looking callsign.  Its an artefact of efficient coding.
>  
>
Andy

Thanks for the explanation. It is interesting to see WSPR decoding 
things such as CQ and a plausible looking callsign and today mine has a 
message "de 9y4/mk0whx rrr". All these on 500kHz.

I notice that your beacon is detectable all day here.

73
Richard
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G3XBM WSPR signal arriving here fine at the moment at -21db, 0.503924,=
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73 all,
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Hi LF group
=C2=A0
Thank you Jim and Laurence for you interest and information.
=C2=A0
Lifting this from Wikipedia ....... "With standard ADSL (annex A), the ban=
d from 25.875=C2=A0kHz to 138=C2=A0kHz is used for upstream communication,=
 while 138=C2=A0kHz =E2=80=93 1104=C2=A0kHz is used for downstream communi=
cation" .......=C2=A0
Jim is right about 136 and I find the band unaffected it is in=C2=A0a dead=
 spot in the ADSL spectrum, assuming its clean of course.
I have considered filters that are advertised but since we have a weak ADS=
L signal here, easily knocked out by Amateur TX on virtually any band I fe=
lt that a filter would make things worse in that respect. The reasoning be=
ing that a filter notch sitting right in the middle of the down stream cha=
nnel would adversely affect the down load times which are only a tad bette=
r than dial up here. I may make something and try it, thanks for putting=
 that idea into the mix.
=C2=A0
It doesn't help that my antenna runs above the BT line (at right angles)=
=C2=A0to my neighbours place but having said that trials at the furthest=
 distance from the line using a frame ant and battery run RX things were=
 no better. However I did not earth the LW=C2=A0that I will try next time.
=C2=A0
Thanks to all for the inputs I have filed them for reference.
=C2=A0
73 petefmt
=C2=A0
--- On Wed, 14/10/09, Laurence BY3A-KL1X China <hellozerohellozero@hotmail=
.com> wrote:


From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: LF: MOFMT ADSL noise
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Wednesday, 14 October, 2009, 3:39 AM




I had the same problem on 500 up in KL7 at home. I ended up moving the=C2=
=A0modem to the garage where the telephone line comes out of the ground an=
d keeping the ADSL loaded wiring as short as possible - =C2=A0then on the=
 telephone side of the router=C2=A0=C2=A0I connected up a pair of reasonab=
le quality of seried ADSL filters=C2=A0outbound for normal telephone wirin=
g=C2=A0in the house. From 20 over noise I cant "see=C2=A0it"=C2=A0now as=
 the big antennae has been chocked off. I only use wireless around the pro=
perty so it wasnt an issue.
=C2=A0
Next job is to choke off the noise from the AC power line coming out of th=
e ground - its awful.
=C2=A0
relates to MTA Palmer Alaska solutions ADSL

=C2=A0
Laurence KL 1 X
=C2=A0
> From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:10:53 +0100
> Subject: Re: LF: MOFMT ADSL noise
>=20
> Dear Pete, Paul-Henrik,
>=20
> M0FMT wrote:
> ....> Well I can only conclude it is ADSL because it is just raising the=
=20
> noise floor it is very subtle not really identifiable like say TV LTB,=
 it's=20
> a mush...>
>=20
> I have problems with ADSL on 500kHz at my QTH - it sounds like "white no=
ise"=20
> with no audible distinctive features I can detect. The noise can be abou=
t=20
> 10 - 20dB over the band noise here over a fairly wide bandwidth in the=
 MF=20
> range. It does not seem to be a problem at 136k, perhaps because this is=
 in=20
> the guard band between upstream and downstream ADSL signals. It is easy=
 to=20
> tell if you are experiencing noise from your own ADSL connection -=20
> disconnect the incoming phone line (probably just unplugging the modem=
 from=20
> the phone socket will be enough) and there will be a reduction in noise=
=20
> level. Unfortunately, there also seems to be a significant level of simi=
lar=20
> noise here from other sources, probably my neighbors' ADSL via the overh=
ead=20
> phone lines.
>=20
> I have had some success with a noise-cancelling arrangement here, where=
 the=20
> ADSL noise is sampled using a current transformer made by passing the=20
> incoming phone line through a ferrite core, and summed with the signal=
 from=20
> loop antennas via a variable phase-shifting and gain-adjusting network,=
=20
> which is adjusted for a null in the noise. Also, moving the loop around=
 the=20
> QTH shows some positions are better than others. Actually, life is a bit=
=20
> more complicated at this particular QTH, since there also seems to be=20
> wide-band noise originating as very low-level sidebands from the local=
=20
> broadcast stations. This requires a second noise-cancelling network to=
 null=20
> noise from that direction. Also, it was necessary to insert a relay in=
=20
> series with the loading coil to disconnect the TX antenna on receive,=20
> otherwise this coupled more noise into the receiving antennas. But when=
 it=20
> is all adjusted properly, the overall noise level can be reduced in=20
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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D=
"top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV>Hi LF group</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Thank you Jim and Laurence for you interest and information.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Lifting this from Wikipedia ....... "With standard ADSL (annex A), th=
e band from 25.875&nbsp;<A class=3Dmw-redirect title=3DKHz href=3D"http://=
uk.mc281.mail.yahoo.com/wiki/KHz">kHz</A> to 138&nbsp;kHz is used for upst=
ream communication, while 138&nbsp;kHz =E2=80=93 1104&nbsp;kHz is used for=
 downstream communication" .......&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Jim is right about 136 and I find the band unaffected it is in&nbsp;a=
 dead spot in the ADSL spectrum, assuming its clean of course.</DIV>
<DIV>I have considered filters that are advertised but since we have a wea=
k ADSL signal here, easily knocked out by Amateur TX on virtually any band=
 I felt that a filter would make things worse in that respect. The reasoni=
ng being that a filter notch sitting right in the middle of the down strea=
m channel would adversely affect the down load times which are only a tad=
 better than dial up here. I may make something and try it, thanks for put=
ting that idea into the mix.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>It doesn't help that my antenna runs above the BT line (at right angl=
es)&nbsp;to my neighbours place but having said that trials at the furthes=
t distance from the line using a frame ant and battery run RX things were=
 no better. However I did not earth the LW&nbsp;that I will try next time.=
</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Thanks to all for the inputs I have filed them for reference.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73 <SPAN>petefmt</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>--- On <B>Wed, 14/10/09, Laurence BY3A-KL1X China <I>&lt;hellozerohel=
lozero@hotmail.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT:=
 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China &lt;hellozerohe=
llozero@hotmail.com&gt;<BR>Subject: RE: LF: MOFMT ADSL noise<BR>To: rsgb_l=
f_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Date: Wednesday, 14 October, 2009, 3:39 AM<BR><B=
R>
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I had the same problem on 500 up in KL7 at home. I ended up moving the&nbs=
p;modem to the garage where the telephone line comes out of the ground and=
 keeping the ADSL loaded wiring as short as possible - &nbsp;then on the=
 telephone side of the router&nbsp;&nbsp;I connected up a pair of reasonab=
le quality of seried ADSL filters&nbsp;outbound for normal telephone wirin=
g&nbsp;in the house. From 20 over noise I cant "see&nbsp;it"&nbsp;now as=
 the big antennae has been chocked off. I only use wireless around the pro=
perty so it wasnt an issue.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Next job is to choke off the nois=
e from the AC power line coming out of the ground - its awful.<BR>&nbsp;<B=
R>relates to MTA Palmer Alaska solutions ADSL<BR><BR>&nbsp;<BR>Laurence KL=
 1 X<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&gt; From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com<BR>&gt; To: rsgb=
_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>&gt; Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:10:53 +0100<BR>=
&gt; Subject: Re: LF: MOFMT ADSL noise<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Dear Pete,
 Paul-Henrik,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; M0FMT wrote:<BR>&gt; ....&gt; Well I can on=
ly conclude it is ADSL because it is just raising the <BR>&gt; noise floor=
 it is very subtle not really identifiable like say TV LTB, it's <BR>&gt;=
 a mush...&gt;<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I have problems with ADSL on 500kHz at my=
 QTH - it sounds like "white noise" <BR>&gt; with no audible distinctive=
 features I can detect. The noise can be about <BR>&gt; 10 - 20dB over the=
 band noise here over a fairly wide bandwidth in the MF <BR>&gt; range. It=
 does not seem to be a problem at 136k, perhaps because this is in <BR>&gt=
; the guard band between upstream and downstream ADSL signals. It is easy=
 to <BR>&gt; tell if you are experiencing noise from your own ADSL connect=
ion - <BR>&gt; disconnect the incoming phone line (probably just unpluggin=
g the modem from <BR>&gt; the phone socket will be enough) and there will=
 be a reduction in noise <BR>&gt; level. Unfortunately, there also seems=
 to be a
 significant level of similar <BR>&gt; noise here from other sources, prob=
ably my neighbors' ADSL via the overhead <BR>&gt; phone lines.<BR>&gt; <BR=
>&gt; I have had some success with a noise-cancelling arrangement here, wh=
ere the <BR>&gt; ADSL noise is sampled using a current transformer made by=
 passing the <BR>&gt; incoming phone line through a ferrite core, and summ=
ed with the signal from <BR>&gt; loop antennas via a variable phase-shifti=
ng and gain-adjusting network, <BR>&gt; which is adjusted for a null in th=
e noise. Also, moving the loop around the <BR>&gt; QTH shows some position=
s are better than others. Actually, life is a bit <BR>&gt; more complicate=
d at this particular QTH, since there also seems to be <BR>&gt; wide-band=
 noise originating as very low-level sidebands from the local <BR>&gt; bro=
adcast stations. This requires a second noise-cancelling network to null=
 <BR>&gt; noise from that direction. Also, it was necessary to insert a re=
lay in
 <BR>&gt; series with the loading coil to disconnect the TX antenna on rec=
eive, <BR>&gt; otherwise this coupled more noise into the receiving antenn=
as. But when it <BR>&gt; is all adjusted properly, the overall noise level=
 can be reduced in <BR>&gt; favourable directions by about 20dB, which is=
 worth doing.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Cheers, Jim Moritz<BR>&gt; 73 de M0BMU <BR>=
&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR><BR>
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Hello Henny , Warren ,

Very bad copy of XGJ on the grabber last night .

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henny van elst a =E9crit :
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> capture XGJ
> Henny pa3cpm
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Dear Henry, LF
This is Capture HF70W.
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI

Hi LF,
Capture WHO ?
Henny pa3cpm
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And mine for the 503.8kHz beacon.
Think they were used somewhere in the old Decca chain for fine tuning

Andy
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2009/10/20 Dave Pick <daveyxm@googlemail.com>

> That is the same one I use on 500kHz!
>
> Dave
> --
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>
> 2009/10/20 Petr Mal=FD <p.maly@gmc.net>
>
>  Hello all,
>>
>> Too lazy to make variometer? LF/MF-related items rarely appear on eBay,
>> here comes one:
>>
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.de/Variometer_W0QQitemZ110447622031QQcmdZViewItemQQptZD=
E_TV_Video_Elektronik_Funkger%C3%A4te?hash=3Ditem19b730f78f
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>> 73, Petr, OK1FIG
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<div>And mine for the 503.8kHz beacon.</div>
<div>Think they were used somewhere in the old Decca chain for fine tuning=
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<div><br clear=3D"all">Andy<br><a href=3D"http://www.g4jnt.com">www.g4jnt.=
com</a><br><br>this email has been scanned for political correctness by th=
e nanny state<br><br><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/20 Dave Pick <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
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an><br>
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x; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">That is the same one I use on=
 500kHz!<br><br>Dave<br>-- <br>G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK<br><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/20 Petr Mal=FD <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
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<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Hello all,</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Too lazy to make variometer? LF/MF-re=
lated items rarely appear on eBay, here comes one:</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><a href=3D"http://cgi.ebay.de/Variome=
ter_W0QQitemZ110447622031QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDE_TV_Video_Elektronik_Funkger=
%C3%A4te?hash=3Ditem19b730f78f" target=3D"_blank">http://cgi.ebay.de/Vario=
meter_W0QQitemZ110447622031QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDE_TV_Video_Elektronik_Funkg=
er%C3%A4te?hash=3Ditem19b730f78f</a></font></div>

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Hello LF,
Capture WPF,
Henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
WPF 03-10.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello LF,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Capture WPF,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:<BR>WPF 03-10.jpg<BR><BR>Opmerking: 
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Good evening Andrey
Many thanks gud night
Claude F8boj jn16wa
----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: LF: Re: f8boj 137776.0BOJ qrss60


> Hi Claude,
> I switch the grabber on 136 khz. www.rn3agc.msk.ru/grabber
> Good night!
> 
> 73 Andrey
> 
> 
> hi LF
> 137776.20hz BOJ qrss 60...21h18 TU
> Claude F8boj JN16WA
> 
>



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U wag you!!!

More like the Shamen!  I am 45!!



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Jim
 
 
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>>> And I am Dr. QRPp!!    <<<<

Dr Field good I presume ?

G :) ..

(for the younger ones http://www.drfeelgood.de/)

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>
> Hi John
>
> And I am Dr. QRPp!!  You've tagged me 3 times so far.  My earth 
> improvements
> are working!!
>
> Cheers
>
> With best regards
>
>
> Jim
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>
> Dr. James Cowburn
> as well as its attachments and delete the whole from any computer."
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John P-G
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>
>
>
> Roger Lapthorn wrote:
>> This evening and overnight I shall be running my little 500kHz WSPR 
>> beacon
>> in its "original" state (ERP around 6uW) before I start mods to the TX 
>> and
>> the antenna, hopefully resulting in stronger signals.
>
> I'm game for a try, looking now and will leave it running overnight.
> Already got G7NKS!
>
> Good luck,
>
> John
> GM4SLV
>
>
>



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Has anyone , technical manual / cct for  >   Racal MA7917B HF SSB/ISB=
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apparently  made down under , by Racal .

Tnx - Graham ..=20

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LF,
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Henny pa3cpm
73s
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Hello J-P Warren,LF,
You are right,J-P,
It is still the capture of 15-10,the date of the pc is here not corect=
,sri=20
for that,so also nil here on the screen,
henny pa3cpm
best 73s
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Hi henny ,

Very strange ! nothing here on my grabber last night ?

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

henny van elst a =E9crit :
> Thi is the capture of 16-10 Warren,LF
> 73s
> henny cpm
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: henny van elst
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> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 10:53 AM
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>
> Hello Warren,LF,
> Nice capture XGJ
> Henny pa3cpm
> best 73s
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> XGJ 15-10.jpg
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Hello Dave and LF group,How and has who to ask for the RSGB LF  award ?

73 de F4DTL  Nicolas



>  See http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/hf/hfawards/ and the page on the  
> award itself at 
>  http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/hf/hfawards/136khz.php
> 
> I am  the proud owner of certificate 7 which I received in 2002. I see 
>  there have not been many issued since...
> 
> 73 Dave  G3YMC

 

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Hi Henny,  Jean-Pierre,

   XGJ was off last night and will be off tonight.

--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1



On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 6:14 AM, henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl> wrote:
> Hello J-P Warren,LF,
> You are right,J-P,
> It is still the capture of 15-10,the date of the pc is here not corect,s=
ri
> for that,so also nil here on the screen,
> henny pa3cpm
> best 73s
> ----- Original Message ----- From: ""Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)""
> <jpm.f1afj@online.fr>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 11:58 AM
> Subject: Re: LF: Fw: XGJ 16-10.jpg
>
>
> Hi henny ,
>
> Very strange ! nothing here on my grabber last night ?
>
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
> henny van elst a =E9crit :
>>
>> Thi is the capture of 16-10 Warren,LF
>> 73s
>> henny cpm
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: henny van elst
>> To: blacksheep
>> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 10:53 AM
>> Subject: XGJ 15-10.jpg
>>
>>
>> Hello Warren,LF,
>> Nice capture XGJ
>> Henny pa3cpm
>> best 73s
>> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden
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>> XGJ 15-10.jpg
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Hi All LF.
Testing again tonight.

503.600kHz - QRS3 - CW ID - 5 minute intervals - 3 watts ERP.

Reports welcome.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.

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Hi All LF.<div><br></div><div>Testing again tonight.</div><div><br></div><=
div>503.600kHz - QRS3 - CW ID - 5 minute intervals - 3 watts ERP.</div><di=
v><br></div><div>Reports welcome.</div><div><br></div><div>73</div><div><b=
r>
</div><div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.=A0</div><div><br></div>

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Hello Jay,

I am running about 50 Watt into a 11m high and 25m long lazy-L antenna.
Estimated ERP is 200mW.
I have been copied by AA1A last weekend around 22 UTC.
I run the wspr beacon only attended and shut it down when going to bed.
I'll leave it on as long as possible tonight.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

At 16:55 29/10/2009, you wrote:
>Rik
>
>I've been watching for your WSPR signal when you are on...although most
>nights you appear to shut down early. Sunset here is 2150Z. What power and
>antenna are you running?
>
>Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Rik Strobbe" <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
>To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 11:50 AM
>Subject: Re: LF: 500khz wspr tx
>
>
> > Hello Vernon,
> >
> > tuning frequency is 502.4kHz USB mode.
> > I will run a WSPR beacon tonight (20-24UTC).
> >
> > 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
> >
> >
> >
> > At 16:38 29/10/2009, you wrote:
> >>Hi everyone.....what dial frequency is everyone using for 500khz wspr....I
> >>finally have my long wires out and have been monitoring. I can leave WSPR
> >>running almost 24/7 to see if I can catch a WSPR signal from across the
> >>pond. I did catch a couple last year which was great!!!
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>
> >>Vernon - VE1VDM
> >>FN85ij
> >
> >



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mal hamilton wrote:
> Nw QRV 502.57 CW AND QRS3 QSX 7033 FOR DX
> MALG3KEV
>  
Copying your QRS3 on 500kHz Mal, 579, sent you a report on 7MHz, don't 
know if you got it.

Tim M0AFJ IO92OB


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Dear MF,
  in Germany we have to pay 130,-Euro for the first year, prolongation=
 is 60,- Euro every year.
73    Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF

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  Hi,
  if You get one, you have to pay 130.- Eur / year
  Therefore  I am not on air any more.=20
  On the other Hand - beaconing is boring
  DK1KQ ex DI2KA

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp; in Germany we have to pay 130,=
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Thanks Clemens!  Glad to see that beautiful structure is still there.

Dex

Clemens Paul wrote:
> How about that?
> http://www.waniewski.de/id414.htm
> 
> HTH
> 73
> Clemens
> DL4RAJ
> 
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>> I have a 1936 edition of Electrical Engineers Handbook by Pender - 
>> McIlwain which show a diagram of a 1030 foot antenna in Budapest used 
>> on 545 kc.  So far I have found no history on this antenna.  Anyone 
>> have any info on this station and antenna's history?
>>
>> Dex
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Andrey can see my sig solid copy on ur GRABBER
TNX MAL

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:36 PM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz


> Hi Mal,
> I have already switched on the grabber on your frequency.
> The grabber will work on 500 khz to ~21z....
>
> In the night from 1.30 till 2.45 observed someone's wspr-signals on 
> 503850.
> The signals was not decoded.
>
> 73 Andrey
>
>
>> Hi Andrey
>> Pse look at 502.57 starting at 1800 utc CW and QRS3
>> De mal/g3kev
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
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>> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 6:45 PM
>> Subject: LF: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz
>>
>>
>>> Hello LF'ers,
>>> QRV RCV today WSPR-beacons on 500 kHz (503850+/-) till the morning.
>>> Also QRSS3 above frequency 502.350. If someone is going to work in
>>> QRSS3-mode,
>>> please inform your frequency.
>>>
>>> 73 Andrey
>


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Hello Andrey,

I noticed it on the wspr website, nice to see that my modest signal makes=
 it into Russia.
Thanks for reporting,

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

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g] namens Andrey rn3agc [rn3agc@mail.ru]
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Onderwerp: Re: LF: OR7T wspr

Hello Rik, LF

2014   -30  2.0   0.503868  OR7T JO20 23
2018   -27  1.9   0.503868  OR7T JO20 23
2022   -27  2.0   0.503868  OR7T JO20 23
2052   -27  2.0   0.503864  OR7T JO20 23
2100   -26  2.0   0.503864  OR7T JO20 23
2106   -25  1.9   0.503864  OR7T JO20 23
2110   -25  2.0   0.503864  OR7T JO20 23

73 Andrey

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Many years ago there was a picture in QST of a Robin Reliant fitted
for 160 meter mobile operation with a large antenna - very comical!
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On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 6:11 PM, John RABSON <john.rabson@numeo.fr> wrote:
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>>> *** 'crazy'? =A0That's nothing. =A0According to UK automobile regulati=
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>>the
>>> Reliant Robin (a 3-wheeled vehicle with a fully enclosed fibreglass
>>body)
>>> is a motorcycle
>
> I should have put motor tricycle.
>
>>Oh no its not =A0 ... =A0Its a =A0motorcycle =A0combination .. ie =A0mot=
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t happens
>
> According to the registration documents for my Reliants, they were motor=
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How about that?
http://www.waniewski.de/id414.htm

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>I have a 1936 edition of Electrical Engineers Handbook by Pender - McIlwain 
> which show a diagram of a 1030 foot antenna in Budapest used on 545 kc.  So far 
> I have found no history on this antenna.  Anyone have any info on this station 
> and antenna's history?
> 
> Dex


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Hello all,

I wonder where the following web disappeared:
http://www.picks.force9.co.uk/index.htm
is it just temporarily unavailable, moved to another address, or canceled 
totally?
It was a great source of information.

Second question. I just write an article that is related to MW. Can anybody 
provide a list of countries where the band around 505kHz is allowed for 
normal QSOs (not only beacons). What are the band limits, what is the 
allowed power?

Thanks, 73, Petr, OK1FIG




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Dear LF enthusiasts!

My acty on 136 was not so successful.
On Oct 2 (Fri) there was a strong rain and very strong local lightnings (a=
s in the summer)
QRN/QRM level high
QSO HF70W (S6)
I saw some not readable QRSS on abt 137.660 (maybe IK5ZPV)

On Oct 3 (Sat) there was a small rain without lightnings, but QRN/QRM leve=
l was very high
QSOs: IK5ZPV, EW6GB, OK2BVG, UA3PW - all in QRSS10 ;-(
I saw abt 12z strong QRSS on 137.7 (HF70W) and not readable signals abt 19=
-20 DFCW3(?)
on 715, abt 21z DFCW10 on 705-706 (maybe M0BMU)
SRI - QRN level was very high on Machta ;-(

Normal levels on Machta (2km BOG + TS-850 - winter at night):
DCF39 - +20...+30 dB
137.7 - S 0-2 (but Oct 2 - S4-5, Oct 3 - S5-7)
daytime levels S 0-2 on 137.7 and DCF39 abt S7-8

TNX all for the QSOs and reports!

Next RU6LA's  acty? - I'll wait for lower levels of QRM/QRN - maybe Oct 16=
-17
or Oct 30-31 or Nov 6-7

73! Ed RU6LA   136.73.ru



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If it's meant, that these frequencies are HAM radio frequencies in germany this is not correct.

Unfortunately the lowest HAM radio band for legal amateur radio transmissions in germany is still 137 kHz.

OMs who are transmitting on 404 or 505 kHz do this with a DI Callsign. DI is for experimental stations and everyone - not just licensed radio amateurs - can apply for such a DI call. But it costs a lot of money over the time. By definition DI is not HAM radio - crazy germans ;-))

Horst DO1KHS

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That is the same one I use on 500kHz!

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2009/10/20 Petr Mal=FD <p.maly@gmc.net>

>  Hello all,
>
> Too lazy to make variometer? LF/MF-related items rarely appear on eBay,
> here comes one:
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.de/Variometer_W0QQitemZ110447622031QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDE=
_TV_Video_Elektronik_Funkger%C3%A4te?hash=3Ditem19b730f78f
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> 73, Petr, OK1FIG
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That is the same one I use on 500kHz!<br><br>Dave<br>-- <br>G3YXM IO92BK=
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Yes chaps your ears did not deceive you.
Andy is operating on 500 kc/s today and maybe tomorrow.
A call on the band tonight may rouse him.

He has a 150m long and 20m high aerial but is only running=20
5 watts output !
Nonetheless he was 579 with me (IO92UB) and a good solid
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He says that he will be back in ON and QRV the weekend after=20
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73 Chris G3XIZ


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mal hamilton wrote:

>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Piotr M=C5=82ynarski" <sq7mpj@toya.n=
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>> mal hamilton wrote:
>>
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> Tnx Piotr
> Nice qso solid 599 ur cw sig. Direct qsl is faster if u need one.
> 73 and agn tnx de mal/g3kev
>
Ok Mal ,
you are right so we will make it direct
                 73 de Piotr, sq7mpj


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That's a shame as I was looking forward to my first SAQ copy.  Oh well maybe
on Christmas eve then!

Cheers Roelof

With best regards
 
 
Jim
 
 
Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Roelof Bakker
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Hello Jim,

I have seen a message that this transmission has been cancelled.
And yes, your mini-whip will do.

I even used it with Johan Bodin's great program directly fed into my  
soundcard.

Best regards,
Roelof, pa0rdt



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Thank you  Marco=20

G ..=20


From: Scholz, Marco=20
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:50 PM
To: 'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'=20
Subject: RE: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


Hello Graham,
since a couple of minutes i have also success to decode your Thorb tra=
nsmission:

 QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEYQMOONQUUA3EO6789 GPNBD TESTINGOA=
H1IM1JRGCM5VI8CX (WBGCSP,UZJA3X,G3DUBSNL0,)V2BVMF2QPN13OLVMO511IQC 4BB=
JMU.MBNOS/A2,0I2B,J2LP8=3D2,IBJ8715NMG.O,1U5O6)D7AGHE 19ICK RNWN FOI=
 VUJPEDF5VER .BE AZTM MOO .0.23A566789 G0NBD TVFTINGS28U90K9RT8HDJP1TD=
H9FNI)2N.D7RP8QS 809M2LHDA1K,G,5.GTFT'IVIAJJPTC1 O8 .5LKGQ7N G8JP2KBO/=
TM06C6T,Q3TORC64GJR4LMLG3R18KMTNN5SOTHQ NUICK BROWN FOR JUJPQD 5VT2MTH=
V LAGTQ MO...
I use MultiPSK 4.14 (http://f6cte.free.fr/)


thanks for signal=20
regards, vy73
Marco
DD7PC, JN49ax



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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@b=
lacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
Sent: 27 October 2009 22:39
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


Report  from Gary , that he  is  getting  100% decode with  Multipsk=
    and  slightly less  using Fldigi ......

MULTIPSK        >>>>>        http://f6cte.free.fr/index_anglais.htm =
 <<<<<<<<<<<


From: Graham=20
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:28 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency=20

TX set  502.000 USB
Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency=20

Repeat time 60  seconds =20

RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'  time=20

Reports / observations  =20

Tnx  Graham

G0NBD - IO83LK =20





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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thank you&nbsp; Marco </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G .. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dmarco.scholz@=
citi.com   href=3D"mailto:marco.scholz@citi.com">Scholz, Marco </A></D=
IV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:50 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mail=
to:'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'">'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'</A>=
=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> RE: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000 </DIV></DIV></DI=
V>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D666414621-27102009><FONT col=
or=3D#0000ff   size=3D2 face=3DArial>Hello Graham,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D666414621-27102009><FONT col=
or=3D#0000ff   size=3D2 face=3DArial>since a couple of minutes i have=
 also success to decode your=20
Thorb transmission:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D666414621-27102009><FONT col=
or=3D#0000ff   size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D666414621-27102009><STRONG><=
FONT   size=3D1>&nbsp;</FONT></STRONG><FONT color=3D#ff0000>QUICK BROW=
N FOX JUMPED OVER THE=20
LAZEYQMOON</FONT>QUUA3EO6789 <FONT color=3D#ff0000>GPNBD=20
TESTING</FONT>OAH1IM1JRGCM5VI8CX=20
(WBGCSP,UZJA3X,G3DUBSNL0,)V2BVMF2QPN13OLVMO511IQC=20
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809M2LHDA1K,G,5.GTFT'IVIAJJPTC1 O8 .5LKGQ7N=20
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>NUICK BROWN=20
FOR</FONT> JUJPQD 5VT2MTHV LAGTQ MO<SPAN   class=3D666414621-27102009>=
...</SPAN></DIV>
<P dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D666414621-27102009><FONT color=
=3D#0000ff size=3D2   face=3DArial>I use MultiPSK 4.14 (</FONT></SPAN>=
<A title=3Dhttp://f6cte.free.fr/   href=3D"http://f6cte.free.fr/"><STR=
ONG><FONT   size=3D1>http://f6cte.free.fr/</FONT></STRONG></A><FONT fa=
ce=3DArial><FONT   size=3D2><FONT color=3D#0000ff>)<SPAN   class=3D666=
414621-27102009></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><BR></P>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D666414621-27102009><FONT col=
or=3D#0000ff   size=3D2 face=3DArial>thanks for signal </FONT></SPAN><=
/DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D666414621-27102009><FONT col=
or=3D#0000ff   size=3D2 face=3DArial>regards, vy73</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D666414621-27102009><FONT col=
or=3D#0000ff   size=3D2 face=3DArial>Marco</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D666414621-27102009><FONT col=
or=3D#0000ff   size=3D2 face=3DArial>DD7PC, JN49ax</FONT></SPAN></DIV>=
</SPAN><BR>
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<FONT size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><B>From:</B> owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshe=
ep.org=20
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <B>On Behalf Of=20
</B>Graham<BR><B>Sent:</B> 27 October 2009 22:39<BR><B>To:</B>=20
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Throb -2- beac=
on 503.000=20
<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Report&nbsp; from Gary , that he&nbsp=
; is&nbsp;=20
getting&nbsp; 100% decode with&nbsp; Multipsk&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; and&nb=
sp;=20
slightly less&nbsp; using Fldigi ......</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>MULTIPSK&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A   ti=
tle=3D"http://f6cte.free.fr/index_anglais.htm&#10;CTRL + Click to foll=
ow link"   href=3D"http://f6cte.free.fr/index_anglais.htm">http://f6ct=
e.free.fr/index_anglais.htm</A>&nbsp;=20
&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:g8f=
zk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailto=
:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:28 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mail=
to:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000 </DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; THROB-2-&nbsp; Beacon&n=
bsp;&nbsp;=20
503.000 khz centre&nbsp; frequency </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>TX set&nbsp; 502.000 USB</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Audio&nbsp; 1000 Hz cent frequency </=
FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Repeat time 60&nbsp; seconds&nbsp; </=
FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>RX&nbsp; 'ON'&nbsp; during cycle tx=
 'off'=20
&nbsp;time </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Reports / observations&nbsp;&nbsp; </=
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx&nbsp; Graham</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G0NBD - IO83LK </FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><BR=
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LF,
Capture DTL
Henny pa3cpm
73s



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Can someone please point me to any CCIR or similar graphs (preferably on the
internet) showing the attenuation with distance expected on groundwave and
skywave at 500kHz?

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Hi LF,

SM6BGP also good signal seen here in UK at IO83qo 2200utc & most of evenin=
g
subject to QSB.

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.


2009/10/30 Michael Oexner <michael.oexner@web.de>

> Hi Paul-Henrik,
>
>
> > Hello LF
>
> > 501.4kHz, 20091030 2100UTC:
>
> > Just receiving SM6BGP in JO67IK. Seems to be in becaon mode CW +
> > QRSS.
>
> > Good signal on 1 x 1 metre square loop with homemade 2 x 2N5109 loop
> > amplifier.
>
> > New callsign for me on this band, good luck with the operation.
>
> SM6BGP is also making it to my QTH JN49bf at 2121 UTC.
> Receiving him on Perseus and mini-whip.
>
> Screenshot attached.
>
>
> --
> vy 73 + gd DX,
>
> Michael
>
>
> RX: ICOM R75, SDR-IQ, Perseus
> Antenna: Wellbrook ALA 1530, Mini-Whip
> Location: Roschbach, Germany N 49=B015' E 8=B007' / Locator JN49BF
>
> ENDBH & NANDBH editor
>
> http://ndbchangeblog.blogspot.com
> http://lwca.org/miscdocs/oexner/2009NDBinfo.zip

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Hi LF,<div><br></div><div>SM6BGP also good signal seen here in UK at IO83q=
o 2200utc &amp; most of evening subject to QSB.</div><div><br></div><div>G=
ary - G4WGT - IO83qo.</div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10=
/30 Michael Oexner <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michael.oexner@=
web.de">michael.oexner@web.de</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Hi Paul-Henrik,<br>
<br>
<br>
&gt; Hello LF<br>
<br>
&gt; 501.4kHz, 20091030 2100UTC:<br>
<br>
&gt; Just receiving SM6BGP in JO67IK. Seems to be in becaon mode CW +<br>
&gt; QRSS.<br>
<br>
&gt; Good signal on 1 x 1 metre square loop with homemade 2 x 2N5109 loop<=
br>
&gt; amplifier.<br>
<br>
&gt; New callsign for me on this band, good luck with the operation.<br>
<br>
SM6BGP is also making it to my QTH JN49bf at 2121 UTC.<br>
Receiving him on Perseus and mini-whip.<br>
<br>
Screenshot attached.<br>
<br>
<br>
--<br>
vy 73 + gd DX,<br>
<br>
Michael<br>
<br>
<br>
RX: ICOM R75, SDR-IQ, Perseus<br>
Antenna: Wellbrook ALA 1530, Mini-Whip<br>
Location: Roschbach, Germany N 49=B015&#39; E 8=B007&#39; / Locator JN49BF=
<br>
<br>
ENDBH &amp; NANDBH editor<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://ndbchangeblog.blogspot.com" target=3D"_blank">http://ndb=
changeblog.blogspot.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://lwca.org/miscdocs/oexner/2009NDBinfo.zip" target=3D"_bla=
nk">http://lwca.org/miscdocs/oexner/2009NDBinfo.zip</a></blockquote></div>=
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Hello LF!
I just see very good signal of SO5AS. FRQ =3D 137.700

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Hello Gerhard/DK6NI!
I wonder whether I forgot to acknowledge your report
on signals of Oct. 6th. If so, I apologize!
So thank you very much. I do hope to meet=20
you on 500 kHz some time in the future.
73
Niels/OZ8NJ+

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Beckmann, Gerhard=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Cc: 'mal hamilton' ; niels@oz8nj.dk ; 'Finbar'=20
  Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 10:22 PM
  Subject: LF: AW: MF ACTY / Reports from DK6NI


  Hello Finbar, Niels, Mal, Hallo LF / MF;

  =20

  Received following calls on MF (501.7 kHz) in CW-Mode:

  =20

  ON8NJ,            Niels:               5 5 9;

  EI0CF,              Finbar:              3 3 9; but 100% readable!

  G3KEV             Mal:                 4 4 9

  =20

  vy 73 de Gerhard  //  DK6NI  (JN59LN)

  =20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello Gerhard/DK6NI!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I wonder whether I forgot to acknowle=
dge your=20
report</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>on signals of Oct. 6th. If so, I=20
apologize!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So thank you very much. I do hope to=
 meet=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>you on 500 kHz some time in the=20
future.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Niels/OZ8NJ+</FONT></DIV>
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09 10:22=20
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ports from=20
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  Finbar:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
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Hi Richard,
Good audible signal just up the road here in Lancashire. SpecLab shows your
signal about 20db over noise, Rx S meter shows 3 S points over noise. Image
attached.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.


2009/10/12 Richard Newstead <g3cwi@btconnect.com>

> As the title says. Reports welcome. EIRP about 100mW.
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> 73
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> G3CWI
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Hi Richard,<div><br></div><div>Good audible signal just up the road here=
 in Lancashire. SpecLab shows your signal about 20db over noise, Rx S mete=
r shows 3 S points over noise. Image attached.</div><div><br></div><div>73=
</div>
<div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.</div><div><br><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote">2009/10/12 Richard Newstead <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D=
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As the title says. Reports welcome. EIRP about 100mW.<br>
<br>
73<br>
<br>
Richard<br>
G3CWI<br>
<br>
IO83wg<br>
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Mal
Strong copy your 600m signal audio 56 !
Marcin SQ2BXI
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> Now looking 137.7
> mal/g3kev
>=20
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "Marcin" <bxi@go2.pl>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 5:45 PM
> Subject: LF: Re: Re: SP2KDS
>=20
>=20
> > Hi Mal
> > OK Mal, I search your signal on 500kHz.
> > Vy 73!
> > Marcin SQ2BXI
> >
> > Marcin
> > Can u work xband I will TX 502.57 qrs3 and I will QSX 137.7
> > Let me know
> > de mal/g3kev
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Marcin
> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 4:04 PM
> > Subject: LF: SP2KDS
> >
> >
> > Hi LF!
> > Station SP2KDS will be work today,
> > Operation in QRSS will start from 19:00 UTC on 137.700kHz (QRRS3) and
> > 137,778kHz (QRSS60).
> > Vy 73!
> > Marcin SQ2BXI
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Hello Andrey nice capture.
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F4DTL Nicolas
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=E9crit :

Hi  Paul-Henrik, Michael, Nicolas, Marcin, LF,
Capture at 21.50

73  Andrey


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Hi Graham, LF,

Sorry if this message has arrived before, just had a glitch with e-mail
software.

Copying your THROB2 transmission very well here but only about 35 miles
away.

I am running FLdigi & MultiPSK software together & it looks like MultiPSK
has the upper hand. It would interesting to have a comparison with a weaker
signal.

Below are the same seven lines from both software decoders.


FLdigi
THE QUICK BROWN FOK JUMPED OVER THE LAZVY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TVLTING
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 01234567898G0NBD TESTING
THE QUICK BROWB FOKBJUMPVD OVER THE LAZEY MOON 012345A78O G7BZD TVSTIDG
THE QUICK BROWN FOK JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 012345678,PG0NBD TVLTPDF
7HE.QU8CY BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THV LAZEY MOOBPV1I3456785 G0NZCBTVLT NG
THE QUICK BROWN FOK JSMOED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 01234O5789 G0FBD TESTIAG
7HEQQU8CY BROWN FOX JUMPED OVVR THVGLRZVB MOON O123RO67)6GG0NZDGTVLJUFF

MultiPSK
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTING
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTING
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTING
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTING
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTING
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTING
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTING

73,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo

2009/10/27 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>

>  Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency
>
> TX set  502.000 USB
> Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency
>
> Repeat time 60  seconds
>
> RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'  time
>
> Reports / observations
>
> Tnx  Graham
>
> G0NBD - IO83LK
>
>
>

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<div>Hi Graham, LF,</div><div><br></div><div>Sorry if this message has arr=
ived before, just had a glitch with e-mail software.</div><div><br></div><=
div>Copying your THROB2 transmission very well here but only about 35 mile=
s away.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I am running FLdigi &amp; MultiPSK software together=
 &amp; it looks like MultiPSK has the upper hand. It would interesting to=
 have a comparison with a weaker signal.</div><div><br></div><div>Below ar=
e the same seven lines from both software decoders.</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>FLdigi</div><div>THE QUICK BROWN FOK JU=
MPED OVER THE LAZVY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TVLTING</div><div>THE QUICK BROW=
N FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 01234567898G0NBD TESTING</div><div>THE QU=
ICK BROWB FOKBJUMPVD OVER THE LAZEY MOON 012345A78O G7BZD TVSTIDG</div>
<div>THE QUICK BROWN FOK JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 012345678,PG0NBD TVLTP=
DF</div><div>7HE.QU8CY BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THV LAZEY MOOBPV1I3456785 G0N=
ZCBTVLT NG</div><div>THE QUICK BROWN FOK JSMOED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 01234O=
5789 G0FBD TESTIAG</div>
<div>7HEQQU8CY BROWN FOX JUMPED OVVR THVGLRZVB MOON O123RO67)6GG0NZDGTVLJU=
FF</div><div><br></div><div>MultiPSK</div><div>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED=
 OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTING</div><div>THE QUICK BROWN FO=
X JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTING</div>
<div>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTI=
NG</div><div>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0N=
BD TESTING</div><div>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 012345=
6789 G0NBD TESTING</div>
<div>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTI=
NG</div><div>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0N=
BD TESTING</div><div><br></div><div>73,</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4=
WGT - IO83qo</div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/27 Graham <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk</a>&gt;</=
span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">




<div style=3D"padding-left:10px;padding-right:10px;padding-top:15px" name=
=3D"Compose message area">
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Running=A0 THROB-2-=A0 Beacon=A0=A0=
=20
503.000 khz centre=A0 frequency </font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">TX set=A0 502.000 USB</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Audio=A0 1000 Hz cent frequency </fon=
t></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Repeat time 60=A0 seconds=A0 </font><=
/div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">RX=A0 &#39;ON&#39;=A0 during cycle tx=
 &#39;off&#39;=20
=A0time </font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Reports / observations=A0=A0 </font><=
/div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Tnx=A0 Graham</font></div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">G0NBD - IO83LK </font>=A0</div>
<br><br></div>
</blockquote></div><br>

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Hi Jean-Pierre
Thanks for capture Jean-Pierre
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Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI


Hello Marcin an all ,

Good copy of  SP2KDS last night  ( see picture )

73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

Marcin a =E9crit :
> Hi LF!
> Station SP2KDS will be work today,
> Operation in QRSS will start from 19:00 UTC on 137.700kHz (QRRS3) an=
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> 137,778kHz (QRSS60).
> Vy 73!
> Marcin SQ2BXI
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Tu Nicolas,
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henny cpm
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  Hello Henny,good luck for the russian's grabbers.


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Best DX still only 69kms John, but I live in a state of perpetual optimism
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2009/10/15 John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>

>
>
> Roger Lapthorn wrote:
>
>> This evening and overnight I shall be running my little 500kHz WSPR beacon
>> in its "original" state (ERP around 6uW) before I start mods to the TX and
>> the antenna, hopefully resulting in stronger signals.
>>
>
> I'm game for a try, looking now and will leave it running overnight.
> Already got G7NKS!
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Best DX still only 69kms John, but I live in a state of perpetual optimism=
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5 John P-G <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gm4slv@sighthound.demon=
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Roger Lapthorn wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
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This evening and overnight I shall be running my little 500kHz WSPR beacon=
<br>
in its &quot;original&quot; state (ERP around 6uW) before I start mods to=
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the antenna, hopefully resulting in stronger signals.<br>
</blockquote>
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I&#39;m game for a try, looking now and will leave it running overnight.=
 Already got G7NKS!<br>
<br>
Good luck,<br>
<br>
John<br>
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<br>
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Hello Rik, LF

2014   -30  2.0   0.503868  OR7T JO20 23
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Hello Graham,

 

first small steps in success.

Decoding you in Thorb-2 !

But QRN is terrible this evening !!!!!!

 

vy 73 de Gerhard // DK6NI

 

==============

 

CQ 5V CQ DE G0NBT0NBD G0Q D

CQ CQ CQ D0 G0NYD VGNBD G0NBD 

.SL G.BHI3MHOTMDIL.C5A  G0NBD@HOTMAS5.COM

 

 

 

  _____  

Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 7. Oktober 2009 19:52
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: Throb -2- Beacon running on 503.000 center frequency

 

Throb 2 beacon on 503.000  

 

running  :  fldigi , throb mode -2- center  frequency  503.000 Khz 

 

TX  set USB , Rx 'on during  60 second tx pause ,

 

Interested to  see  how the  mode prints / recovers  in the  noise / qsb  

 

Reports welcome ,

 

Tnx - Graham

G0NBD

 

 


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ITU terms and definitions:

amateur service:  A radiocommunication service for the purpose of =20
self-training, intercommunication and technical investigations carried =20
out by amateurs, that is, by duly authorized persons interested in =20
radio technique solely with a personal aim and without pecuniary =20
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As you can see intercommunication ("2 x WAY COMMUNICATION ie QSO =20
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> I always thought amateur radio was about 2 x WAY COMMUNICATION ie QSO MO=
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> otherwise it is BROADCAST and SWL mode.
> This is a strange  OBSERVATION
> G3KEV
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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>>
>> mal hamilton wrote:
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>>
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>> Johan SM6LKM
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Tu,LUBOS,
Best 73s
Henny pa3cpm.
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Hi Graham,

100% copy here.

TQUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTING
 .L.NKC3T H5

SNR was 6dB as indicated by FLDIGI-SW.


73
Clemens
DL4RAJ

  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000 


  Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency 

  TX set  502.000 USB
  Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency 

  Repeat time 60  seconds  

  RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'  time 

  Reports / observations   

  Tnx  Graham

  G0NBD - IO83LK  





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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Graham,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73<BR>Clemens<BR>DL4RAJ</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Running&nbsp; THROB-2-&nbsp; Beacon=
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  503.000 khz centre&nbsp; frequency </FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tnx&nbsp; Graham</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>G0NBD - IO83LK </FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><=
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Hi John, LF,
Thanks for the report, I was testing new 136kHz loading coil & modified
matching transformer.

Results were very promising with 3 Amps antenna current & estimated 250mW
ERP, the best so far.

73,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.


2009/10/4 John RABSON <john.rabson@numeo.fr>

> At 1500z.
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Hi John, LF,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for the report, I was testing new=
 136kHz loading coil &amp; modified matching transformer.</div><div><br></=
div><div>Results were very promising with 3 Amps antenna current &amp; est=
imated 250mW ERP, the best so far.</div>
<div><br></div><div>73,</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.</d=
iv><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/4 John RABSON <span dir=
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<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
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<br>
F5VLF<br>
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Hi Willem
Willem thank you very much for the very good visual control ... 137740hz
is as good as our qso on 6 October on 160m ... the skip is 667km ... I hope 
again one qso on Topband ... and another control on 137 khz
73 s willen Dear friend .. thank you again.
Claude F8BOJ ...JN16WA
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> Gm. claude fb signal in jo22mb
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X band data qso ? =20

Running at the  moment  and will try later  tonight=20
PSK31=20

TX    503.000  psk31 ...
RX   QRG  503.000 Khz   and  3858  KHz=20

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Hello Graham,

 

sorry, no decoding until yet. Only some "fragments" to see on waterfall..

Condx seem to be not too good this evening.

Andy's WSPR-beacon is also coming only about -24 dB this evening.

But I will monitor MF for the next two hours or so..

 

Best 73 de Gerhard  // DK6NI

 

============================

 

 

  _____  

Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham
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Betreff: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000 

 

Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency 

 

TX set  502.000 USB

Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency 

 

Repeat time 60  seconds  

 

RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'  time 

 

Reports / observations   

 

Tnx  Graham

 

G0NBD - IO83LK  

 


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hello Graham,<o=
:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>sor=
ry, no decoding until
yet. Only some &#8220;fragments&#8221; to see on waterfall&#8230;.<o:p=
></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Con=
dx seem to be not too
good this evening.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>And=
y&#8217;s WSPR-beacon is
also coming only about -24 dB this evening.<o:p></o:p></span></font></=
p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>But=
 I will monitor MF for
the next two hours or so&#8230;.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Bes=
t 73 de Gerhard&nbsp; //
DK6NI<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Von:</span></font=
></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:Tahoma'> owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@black=
sheep.org</st1:PersonName> [mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">r=
sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName>] <b><span style=3D'font-w=
eight:bold'>Im Auftrag von </span></b>Graham<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Dienstag, 27.=
 Oktober
2009 18:28<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:s=
t=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> LF: Throb -2-=
 beacon
503.000 </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Running&nbsp; THROB-2-&nbsp; Beacon&nbs=
p;&nbsp; 503.000 khz
centre&nbsp; frequency </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>TX set&nbsp; 502.000 USB</span></font><=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Audio&nbsp; 1000 Hz cent frequency </sp=
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ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Repeat time 60&nbsp; seconds&nbsp; </sp=
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ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>RX&nbsp; 'ON'&nbsp; during cycle tx 'of=
f' &nbsp;time </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Tnx&nbsp; Graham</span></font><o:p></o:=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>G0NBD - IO83LK </span></font>&nbsp;<o:p=
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2009/10/4 Claude Berthebaud <f8boj@club-internet.fr>

>  hi Valerio..and LF
> Many thanks for the qso Valerio...ur MM and MMM..
> good sunday
> Claude F8boj JN16WA
>

Thank you Claude, the performances of my antenna are not the same as in the
past because of trees sinking a lot of power....

CUAGN and '73

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<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/4 Claude Berthebaud <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:f8boj@club-internet.fr">f8boj@club-internet=
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<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">hi Valerio..and LF </font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Many thanks for the qso Valerio...ur=
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MMM..</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">good sunday</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Claude F8boj JN16WA</font></div></div=
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</blockquote></div><br>Thank you Claude, the performances of my antenna ar=
e not the same as in the past because of trees sinking a lot of power....<=
br><br>CUAGN and &#39;73<br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>IK5ZPV<br>

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Perfectly good signal in Stockport, Richard (on a small loop)


>I have a CW beacon running on 501.7kHz. EIRP about 100mW. Reports very 
> welcome. It will be on until morning.
> 
> 73
> 
> Richard
> G3CWI


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Hello Paul and Jay:
Thanks for the reports - I didn't pick a very good evening! However I 
have reason to believe the antenna and the transmitter are working OK so 
I will be trying again.

Regards

Peter, G3LDO
> Hello Peter, Jay, LF
>
> I had the radio tuned to 501.1kHz for a couple of hours last night but found the
> signal to be weakish for a close to legal limit ERP UK station under normal/good
> conditions. The signal was very stable with no deep QSB over the period I
> followed it.
>
> I know it is impossible to make a proper estimation like this, just wanted to
> add my reception result. Perhaps something wasn't working as intended/announced
> or then it was just condx changing for the worse after a good period lasting
> several days.
>
>
> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
> Vaasa / KP03SD
>
>
> Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:
>
>   
>> Peter
>>
>> Sorry...nothing seen. T storms over Atlantic generating some pretty good
>> static levels.
>>
>> Jay
>>
>>
>>     
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   



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Hi Walter, LF!
Your beacon WSPR signal:
1958 -26  2.6   0.503899  0 DI2AG JN59 27
2020 -25  2.4   0.503899  0 DI2AG JN59 27
2024 -23  2.5   0.503899  0 DI2AG JN59 27
--
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI


DI2AG is now in WSPR. TX QRG 505.090, Dial 503.590. Pwr 0.5W ERP.
Please listen to my beacon.

73   Walter    DI2AG / DJ2LF

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Just seen Rik's decode and now this!!!!!

 2009-10-17 19:14  G3XBM  0.503936  -26  0  JO02dg  0.001  GM4SLV  IP90gg
 896  354
This is staggering!!!

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/10/17 Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>

> Roger,
>
> I got a positive decode at 19:04 UTC, stake is now at 337km
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
> ________________________________________
> Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [
> owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] namens John P-G [
> gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk]
> Verzonden: zaterdag 17 oktober 2009 19:40
> Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Onderwerp: Re: LF: Better still again on 500kHz QRPp WSPR
>
> Roger Lapthorn wrote:
> > 2009-10-17 16:04  G3XBM  0.503920  -25  0  JO02dg  0.001  G0KTN
> > IO81ti 210  242 210kms - brilliant!!! Thanks G0KTN.
> >
> > 73s Roger G3XBM
> >
>
> Let's see if you can manage some REAL DX!
>
> I'm watching, and will keep a lookout through the night.
>
> John
> GM4SLV
>



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Just seen Rik&#39;s decode and now this!!!!!<br><br><table><tbody><tr><td=
 align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A02009-10-17 19:14=A0</font></td><td al=
ign=3D"left"><font size=3D"2">=A0G3XBM=A0</font></td><td align=3D"right"><=
font size=3D"2">=A00.503936=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A0-26=A0</font></td><td align=3D"rig=
ht"><font size=3D"2">=A00=A0</font></td><td align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2=
">=A0JO02dg=A0</font></td><td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A00.001=A0=
</font></td><td align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2">=A0GM4SLV=A0</font></td>
<td align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2">=A0IP90gg=A0</font></td><td align=3D"r=
ight"><font size=3D"2">=A0896=A0</font></td><td align=3D"right"><font size=
=3D"2">=A0354=A0</font></td></tr></tbody></table><br>This is staggering!!!=
<br><br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/17 Rik Strobbe <span dir=3D"ltr">&l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be">Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.=
be</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-lef=
t: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left:=
 1ex;">
Roger,<br>
<br>
I got a positive decode at 19:04 UTC, stake is now at 337km<br>
<br>
73, Rik =A0ON7YD - OR7T<br>
________________________________________<br>
Van: <a href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">owner-rsgb_lf_g=
roup@blacksheep.org</a> [<a href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.=
org">owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>] namens John P-G [<a href=3D"m=
ailto:gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk">gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk</a>]<br=
>

Verzonden: zaterdag 17 oktober 2009 19:40<br>
Aan: <a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksh=
eep.org</a><br>
Onderwerp: Re: LF: Better still again on 500kHz QRPp WSPR<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
Roger Lapthorn wrote:<br>
&gt; 2009-10-17 16:04 =A0G3XBM =A00.503920 =A0-25 =A00 =A0JO02dg =A00.001=
 =A0G0KTN<br>
&gt; IO81ti 210 =A0242 210kms - brilliant!!! Thanks G0KTN.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 73s Roger G3XBM<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
Let&#39;s see if you can manage some REAL DX!<br>
<br>
I&#39;m watching, and will keep a lookout through the night.<br>
<br>
John<br>
GM4SLV<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>----------=
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3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"h=
ttp://www.g3xbm.co.uk">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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VAC can cause timing problems inteh conversion of one sampling rate to
another as it crosses the Virtual Audio backplane.

I use cheap 'headphone dongles'  to add additional soundcards for the SDR
then cross-patch the audio leads as necessary.    That way timing issues=
 due
to poor sample rate conversion are removes, leaving just frequency
innaccuracies which are hardly ever a problem.

The only downside is that many of the low cost units (=C2=A35 from Ebay,=
 for
example) only have a mono microphone input, meaning they can't be used wit=
h
I/Q inputs from Softrockks or similar.   However, the headphone O/P is
stereo, but you need to be aware that the headphone ground usually sits at=
 a
few volts positive so needs to be isolated to avoid damage.

I'vew used many of these modules, sometimes building them into equipment=
 to
give a simple USB audio interface, and having the USB's 5V supply to play
with as well.

Andy
www.g4jnt.com

this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny state


2009/10/28 Horst St=C3=B6cker <horst.stoecker@web.de>

> to Lubos (and anyone who may be interested):
> Did you ever hear of a software named "virtual audio cable"? For example
> you can send your SDR-signal to the virtual Soundcard. From that you can
> decode THROB or what ever. So you do not need a second computer for
> decoding. The speed of the computer who has to mange both must be higher=
, of
> course.
> Horst DO1KHS
>
> > -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: "Lubos OK2BVG" <bvgbob@hotmail.com>
> > Gesendet: 27.10.09 22:51:54
> > An: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> > Betreff: RE: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000
>
> Hello Graham, LF!
> > Sorry, but I use my computer together with SDR-IQ as a LF receiver
> > and I haven=C5=BDt got the other PC for decoding THROB packets. But yo=
ur
> > signal is nice!
> >
> > Lubos, OK2BVG
> >
> > From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk
> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> > Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:34:27 +0000
> > Subject: Re: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000
> >
> > Tnx Lubos
> >
> > Are you able to decode any of the signal ???
> >
> > I use > http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html
> >
> > Tnx - Graham ..
> >
> >  *From:*Lubos OK2BVG
> >  *Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:05 PM
> >  *To:*rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> >  *Subject:* RE: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000
> >
> > Hello Graham, LF!
> > I see your beacon=C5=BDs packets very well.
> >
> > 73!
> >
> > Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
> > From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk
> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> > Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:28:12 +0000
> > Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000
> >
> > Running THROB-2- Beacon 503.000 khz centre frequency
> >
> > TX set 502.000 USB
> > Audio 1000 Hz cent frequency
> >
> > Repeat time 60 seconds
> >
> > RX 'ON' during cycle tx 'off' time
> >
> > Reports / observations
> >
> > Tnx Graham
> >
> > G0NBD - IO83LK
> >
> > Windows 7: Kter=C3=BD po=C3=A8=C3=ADta=C3=A8 je pro v=C3=A1s ten prav=
=C3=BD? Dal=C2=B9=C3=AD informace.
> >
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> > Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.34/2462 - Release Date: 10/
> > 27/09 07:38:00
> >
> >
>  > Windows 7: Kter=C3=BD po=C3=A8=C3=ADta=C3=A8 je pro v=C3=A1s ten prav=
=C3=BD? Dal=C2=B9=C3=AD informace.
>
>
> _______________________________________________________________
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<div>VAC can cause timing problems inteh conversion of one sampling rate=
 to another as it crosses the Virtual Audio backplane.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>I use cheap &#39;headphone dongles&#39;=C2=A0=C2=A0to add=C2=A0additi=
onal soundcards for the SDR then cross-patch the audio leads as necessary.=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 That way timing issues due to poor sample rate conversi=
on are removes, leaving just frequency innaccuracies which are hardly ever=
 a problem.</div>

<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>The only downside is that many of the low cost units (=C2=A35 from Eb=
ay, for example) only have a mono microphone input, meaning they can&#39;t=
 be used with I/Q inputs from Softrockks or similar.=C2=A0=C2=A0 However,=
 the headphone O/P is stereo, but you need to be aware that the headphone=
 ground usually sits at a few volts positive so needs to be isolated to av=
oid damage.</div>

<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>I&#39;vew used many of these modules, sometimes building them into eq=
uipment to give a simple USB audio interface, and having the USB&#39;s 5V=
 supply to play with as well.</div>
<div><br clear=3D"all">Andy<br><a href=3D"http://www.g4jnt.com">www.g4jnt.=
com</a><br><br>this email has been scanned for political correctness by th=
e nanny state<br><br><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/28 Horst St=C3=B6cker <span dir=3D"ltr"=
>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:horst.stoecker@web.de">horst.stoecker@web.de</a>&gt=
;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px=
 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
<div class=3D"im">to Lubos (and anyone who may be interested):<br>Did you=
 ever hear of a software named &quot;virtual audio cable&quot;? For exampl=
e you can send your SDR-signal to the virtual Soundcard. From that you can=
 decode THROB or what ever. So you do not need a second computer for decod=
ing. The speed of the computer who has to mange both must be higher, of co=
urse.<br>
Horst DO1KHS<br><br>&gt; -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Nachricht-----<br>&gt; Vo=
n: &quot;Lubos OK2BVG&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bvgbob@hotmail.com">bvgb=
ob@hotmail.com</a>&gt;<br>&gt; Gesendet: 27.10.09 22:51:54<br></div>&gt;=
 An: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@bla=
cksheep.org</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Betreff: RE: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>Hello Graham, LF!<br>&gt; Sorry, but I use my comput=
er together with SDR-IQ as a LF receiver<br></div>&gt; and I haven=C5=BDt=
 got the other PC for decoding THROB packets. But your<br>
<div class=3D"im">&gt; signal is nice!<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Lubos, OK2BVG<br>&g=
t;<br>&gt; From: <a href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">g8fzk@g8fzk.fs=
net.co.uk</a><br></div>
<div class=3D"im">&gt; To: <a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org"=
>rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a><br></div>
<div class=3D"im">&gt; Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:34:27 +0000<br></div>
<div class=3D"im">&gt; Subject: Re: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000<br>&gt;<b=
r></div>
<div class=3D"im">&gt; Tnx Lubos<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Are you able to decode an=
y of the signal ???<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I use &gt; <a href=3D"http://www.w1hkj=
.com/Fldigi.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html</a><b=
r>&gt;<br>
&gt; Tnx - Graham ..<br>&gt;<br>&gt; =C2=A0*From:*Lubos OK2BVG<br></div>&g=
t; =C2=A0*Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:05 PM<br>
<div class=3D"im">&gt; =C2=A0*To:*<a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blackshe=
ep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a><br>&gt; =C2=A0*Subject:* RE: LF:=
 Throb -2- beacon 503.000<br>&gt;<br></div>&gt; Hello Graham, LF!<br>&gt;=
 I see your beacon=C5=BDs packets very well.<br>

<div class=3D"im">&gt;<br>&gt; 73!<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS<b=
r>&gt; From: <a href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.=
co.uk</a><br></div>
<div class=3D"im">&gt; To: <a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org"=
>rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a><br></div>
<div class=3D"im">&gt; Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:28:12 +0000<br></div>
<div class=3D"im">&gt; Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000<br>&gt;<br>&g=
t; Running THROB-2- Beacon 503.000 khz centre frequency<br>&gt;<br>&gt; TX=
 set 502.000 USB<br>&gt; Audio 1000 Hz cent frequency<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Repe=
at time 60 seconds<br>
&gt;<br>&gt; RX &#39;ON&#39; during cycle tx &#39;off&#39; time<br>&gt;<br=
>&gt; Reports / observations<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Tnx Graham<br>&gt;<br>&gt; G0=
NBD - IO83LK<br>&gt;<br></div>&gt; Windows 7: Kter=C3=BD po=C3=A8=C3=ADta=
=C3=A8 je pro v=C3=A1s ten prav=C3=BD? Dal=C2=B9=C3=AD informace.<br>

<div class=3D"im">&gt;<br>&gt; No virus found in this incoming message.<br=
>&gt; Checked by AVG - <a href=3D"http://www.avg.com/" target=3D"_blank">w=
ww.avg.com</a><br>&gt; Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.34/2462=
 - Release Date: 10/<br>
&gt; 27/09 07:38:00<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br></div>
<div>
<div></div>
<div class=3D"h5">&gt; Windows 7: Kter=C3=BD po=C3=A8=C3=ADta=C3=A8 je pro=
 v=C3=A1s ten prav=C3=BD? Dal=C2=B9=C3=AD informace.<br><br><br>__________=
_____________________________________________________<br>Neu: <a href=3D"h=
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Hi Roman, LF,
Roman RW3ADB wrote :-
How many 'W' from G4WGT WSPR?

The ERP using WSPR tonight is 50mW.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.


2009/10/17 Roman RW3ADB <rw3adb@rambler.ru>

> * John P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> [Sat, 17 Oct 2009 19:27:01
> +0000]:
>
>> Roger Lapthorn wrote:
>> > Just seen Rik's decode and now this!!!!!
>> >
>> >  2009-10-17 19:14  G3XBM  0.503936  -26  0  JO02dg  0.001  GM4SLV
>> IP90gg
>> >  896  354
>> > This is staggering!!!
>> >
>>
>> And not a fluke:
>>
>>  Hi LF!
> How many 'W' from G4WGT WSPR?
>
> Roman
>
>
>  1924 -26  2.9   0.503936 -1 G3XBM JO02 0
>>
>> A second decode!
>>
>> Nice.... :-)
>>
>> John
>> GM4SLV
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Roman RW3ADB.
>
>

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Hi Roman, LF,<div><br></div><div>Roman RW3ADB wrote :-</div><div>How many=
 &#39;W&#39; from G4WGT WSPR?</div><div><br></div><div>The ERP using WSPR=
 tonight is 50mW.</div><div><br></div><div>73</div><div><br></div><div>Gar=
y - G4WGT - IO83qo.</div>
<div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/17 Roman RW3ADB <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rw3adb@rambler.ru">rw3adb@rambler.ru</a>&gt=
;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;b=
order-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
* John P-G &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk" target=3D"=
_blank">gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk</a>&gt; [Sat, 17 Oct 2009 19:27:01=
 +0000]:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Roger Lapthorn wrote:<br>
&gt; Just seen Rik&#39;s decode and now this!!!!!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =A02009-10-17 19:14 =A0G3XBM =A00.503936 =A0-26 =A00 =A0JO02dg =A00.0=
01 =A0GM4SLV<br>
IP90gg<br>
&gt; =A0896 =A0354<br>
&gt; This is staggering!!!<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
And not a fluke:<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
Hi LF!<br>
How many &#39;W&#39; from G4WGT WSPR?<br>
<br>
Roman<br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
1924 -26 =A02.9 =A0 0.503936 -1 G3XBM JO02 0<br>
<br>
A second decode!<br>
<br>
Nice.... :-)<br>
<br>
John<br>
GM4SLV<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
--<br><font color=3D"#888888">
Roman RW3ADB.<br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br></div>

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Hi LF!
Station SP2KDS will be work today,
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Dear all,

audible reception 569 of G3LDO in QRSS on 501,1 kHz, RST 569 in eastern
Bavaria, JN68GN around 23.00 UTC, not later.

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Hi Richard.
I am located in Luton Bedfordshire, locator IO91TV

73
Ken
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> Ken wrote:
>> To all LF,s
>> Sunday October 4th, I will be on 502.00 at 10.00 UTC, 100mW hand keyed 
>> cw.
>>  73
>> Ken
>>  M0KHW.
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> 73
>
> Richard
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Dear Piotr, LF
Thanks for capture Piotr.

A teraz b=C4=99dzie po polsku. :-)
Dzi=C4=99kuj=C4=99 (tym razem po polsku) za obrazek z naszym widmem.=
 Ciesz=C4=99 si=C4=99 bardzo
=C5=BCe nas =C5=82adnie odbiera=C5=82e=C5=9B!
Warunki by=C5=82y wczoraj na 136kHz fatalne, odbierali=C5=9Bmy tylko=
 SO5AS. Za to
hucza=C5=82o pasmo 500kHz! Jak pewnie widzia=C5=82e=C5=9B Mala G3KEV=
 odbierali=C5=9Bmy na ucho
na S6 !
W pi=C4=85tek by=C5=82y zdecydowanie lepsze warunki na LF, widzieli=C5=
=9Bmy si=C4=99 nawet u
Andreya RN3AGC na QRRS 3.
Do zobaczenia na spectrum!
Marcin SQ2BXI




> czesc Marcin, ( bedzie po polsku  :)  )
> dosyc pozno wlaczylem sprzet  jednakze udalo mi sie odebrac twoj syg=
nal
> na 137 khz
> wyjatkowo nie mialem dzis zaklocen  no i  odebralem "KDS"  o 2250 ut=
c -
> obrazek w zalaczniku
> vfo mam usawione na 137.780  zas BFO na  600 Hz  sygnal jest na 602=
 a
> ze  bfo  jest od gory wiec wychodzi
> na 137.778 kHz  podstawa czasu w spectranie tak dobrana zeby qrss60
> wygladalo sensownie  reszta obrazkow juz jutro bezposrednim
> mail'em
>                                 serdecznie pozdrawiam, Piotr, sq7mpj
> qth: Lodz /jo91rs/
>
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We do appreciate Dr. Moritz!  I'd refer to him as an "elmer" but I suspect I
am somewhat older than him.   He got me from -20dB up to about 0dB

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

  _____  

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
Sent: 12 October 2009 10:39
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: 503.6kHz Test

 

Hi Jim, LF,

 

Thank you for the plot & your observations. I have downloaded the plot to
study later.

 

I had not realised until after the PA FET failure on Saturday night that the
LPF toroids were very hot & need to be upgraded if I am going to run that
level of power again (5 watts ERP about 4 Amps antenna current). I must also
check the matching transformer toroids at the base of the antenna if that is
getting hot also, I may look into the alternative matching (tapped coil)
which you provided documentation & a spreadsheet for a while ago.

 

Keep up the good work, I am sure that we all appreciate your input, time &
efforts devoted to the hobby.

 

Cheers,

 

Gary - G4WGT.

 

 

 

 

2009/10/11 James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>

Dear Gary, LF Group,

This is what the signal looks like for about 11/2 hours up to 2200utc. The
red signal is G4WGT, the yellow one is G4JNT's WSPR beacon. The blue line is
the noise level scaled to about 300Hz bandwidth, to give an idea of the
audible strength as a CW signal. The plot settings are not ideal to show
variations in signal level - there are actually short periods where the
signal fades to inaudibility that don't show up here, but it gives a
reasonable idea.

G4WGT I think must be mainly sky wave here so presumably the fading is due
to  different sky-wave paths.  G4JNT is a very stable ground wave signal
here during the day, so I imagine the fading here is due to the combination
of ground wave and sky wave.



Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU 

 


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him. &nbsp;&nbsp;He got me from -20dB up to about 0dB<o:p></o:p></span=
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le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>Thank you for the plot &amp; your observation=
s. I have downloaded the
plot to study later.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>I had not realised until after the PA FET fai=
lure on Saturday night
that the LPF toroids were very hot &amp; need to be upgraded if I am=
 going to
run that level of power again (5 watts ERP about 4 Amps antenna curren=
t). I
must also check the matching transformer toroids at the base of the an=
tenna if
that is getting hot also, I may look into the alternative matching (ta=
pped
coil) which you provided documentation &amp; a spreadsheet for a while=
 ago.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>Keep up the good work, I am sure that we all=
 appreciate your input,
time &amp; efforts devoted to the hobby.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>2009/10/11 James Moritz &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
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p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>Dear Gary, LF Group,<br>
<br>
This is what the signal looks like for about 11/2 hours up to 2200utc.=
 The red
signal is G4WGT, the yellow one is G4JNT's WSPR beacon. The blue line=
 is the
noise level scaled to about 300Hz bandwidth, to give an idea of the au=
dible
strength as a CW signal. The plot settings are not ideal to show varia=
tions in
signal level - there are actually short periods where the signal fades=
 to
inaudibility that don't show up here, but it gives a reasonable idea.<=
br>
<br>
G4WGT I think must be mainly sky wave here so presumably the fading is=
 due to
&nbsp;different sky-wave paths. &nbsp;G4JNT is a very stable ground wa=
ve signal
here during the day, so I imagine the fading here is due to the combin=
ation of
ground wave and sky wave.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<br>
Cheers, Jim Moritz<br>
73 de M0BMU <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Paul-Henrik,

I just worked ON/F6CNI/P on 501.5, Andy gave as QTH Chimay

73, Rik


Quoting Paul-Henrik <phl@netikka.fi>:

> Hello LF
>
> Not sure if I can beleive my ears but it sounds like a QSO between G3XIZ and
> ON/F6CNI/P taking place on 502.4kHz. G3XIZ is strong but I hear weak CW as if
> ON/F6CNI/P is working him on the same QRG.
>
> 73
>
> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
> Vaasa / KP03SD
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>




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Hello Warren,
Can you start your beacon WD2XGJ a little bit earlier today?
It will be good to look here before 02.00z when "Yunost" 153 kHz local AM starting.
Thanks.

73 Andrey rn3agc



> Hello Warren,
> capture at ~02.01z
> 
> 73 Andrey rn3agc


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Tim,
Pleased that worked for you.

Mal (G3KEV) often operates CW or QRS 500kHz & cross band to 7MHz into the
early hours on 502.570kHz.

SK6RUD beacon on 500.000kHz.

G4JNT multi-mode beacon on 503.700kHz, like GB3RAL beacons on 5MHz, but at
0004, 0019, 0034 & 0049 minutes past each hour.

G4JNT WSPR beacon on 503.850kHz fairly regular but random.

Usually several EU beacons around 505.100 to 505.200kHz.

Other operators appear randomly.

I hope that helps Tim.

Cheers,

Gary - G4WGT.



2009/10/3 tim hague <m0afj@dsl.pipex.com>

> Gary - G4WGT wrote:
>
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>> Point the cursor at the right side of the Argo display & click the right
>> mouse button.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Gary - G4WGT.
>>
>> 2009/10/3 tim hague <m0afj@dsl.pipex.com <mailto:m0afj@dsl.pipex.com>>
>>
>>    I'm trying to set up Argo, I can get copy on the vertical
>>    waterfall but not the horizontal, any tips chaps?
>>
>>    Tim M0AFJ
>>
>>
>>  Thanks Gary, all working fine now, got good copy of Mal. I had the wrong
> frequency set on the RH slider..
> Is there a set frequency for QRS?, is it worth leaving the Rx on overnight?
>
>

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Tim,<div><br></div><div>Pleased that worked for you.</div><div><br></div><=
div>Mal (G3KEV) often operates CW or QRS 500kHz &amp; cross band to 7MHz=
 into the early hours on 502.570kHz.</div><div><br></div><div>SK6RUD beaco=
n on 500.000kHz.</div>
<div><br></div><div>G4JNT multi-mode beacon on 503.700kHz, like GB3RAL bea=
cons on 5MHz, but at 0004, 0019, 0034 &amp; 0049 minutes past each hour.</=
div><div><br></div><div>G4JNT WSPR beacon on 503.850kHz fairly regular but=
 random.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Usually several EU beacons around 505.100 to 505.200kH=
z.</div><div><br></div><div>Other operators appear randomly.</div><div><br=
></div><div>I hope that helps Tim.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div>
<div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT.</div><div><br></div><div><br><br><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/3 tim hague <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:m0afj@dsl.pipex.com">m0afj@dsl.pipex.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc=
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Gary - G4WGT wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"im">
Hi Tim,<br>
<br>
Point the cursor at the right side of the Argo display &amp; click the rig=
ht mouse button.<br>
<br>
73<br>
<br>
Gary - G4WGT.<br>
<br></div>
2009/10/3 tim hague &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:m0afj@dsl.pipex.com" target=3D"_=
blank">m0afj@dsl.pipex.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:m0afj@dsl.pipe=
x.com" target=3D"_blank">m0afj@dsl.pipex.com</a>&gt;&gt;<div class=3D"im">=
<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0I&#39;m trying to set up Argo, I can get copy on the vertical<br>
 =A0 =A0waterfall but not the horizontal, any tips chaps?<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0Tim M0AFJ<br>
<br>
<br>
</div></blockquote>
Thanks Gary, all working fine now, got good copy of Mal. I had the wrong=
 frequency set on the RH slider..<br>
Is there a set frequency for QRS?, is it worth leaving the Rx on overnight=
?<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br></div>

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Hallo Walter,

please check the frequency readout in your WSPR program.
Frequency is entered in MHz not in kHz.
You have entered 502.301534 MHz instead of 0.502301534 MHz.
Therefore you'll find your loggings in the database not under LF/MF
but only under "All".
It's exactly the same mistake I've made some time ago.:-)

73
Clemens
DL4RAJ

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  Ufb reception of G0NBD, G4JNT, OR7T hr in JN59no. See datebase at 21:42UTC.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hallo Walter,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>please&nbsp;check the&nbsp;frequency=
 readout in=20
your WSPR program.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Frequency is entered in MHz not in=20
kHz.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You have entered&nbsp;502.301534&nbsp=
;MHz instead=20
of 0.502301534&nbsp;MHz.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Therefore you'll find your loggings=
 in the database=20
not under LF/MF</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>but only under "All".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It's exactly the same mistake I've ma=
de&nbsp;some=20
time ago.:-)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73<BR>Clemens<BR>DL4RAJ</FONT></DIV>
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The Wasilla/Palmer Alaska receiver continues to be on +24hrs  502.4 di=
al WSPR and QRSS 3 window 504 and below - it will stay that way for th=
e next 10/14 days or so. The equipment will upload captures and I thin=
k QRSS Argo is visible on http://kl1x.com/dx00000.jpg

The K9AY is set for "omnidirectional"

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 and I=20
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Many thanx Jeff BWO and Claude BOJ for this news contacts with french LF  
stations.Stong both.
Good afternoon and good LF DX
 
F4DTL  Nicolas JN18FP
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Yes Paul,

The qso has just ended , Chris was getting a good  signal from f6nci  ..
nice way to operate on 500 , drive over the  boarder !

G ..

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From: "Paul-Henrik" <phl@netikka.fi>
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>
> Hello LF
>
> Not sure if I can beleive my ears but it sounds like a QSO between G3XIZ 
> and
> ON/F6CNI/P taking place on 502.4kHz. G3XIZ is strong but I hear weak CW as 
> if
> ON/F6CNI/P is working him on the same QRG.
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> 73
>
> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
> Vaasa / KP03SD
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>



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On 22 Oct 2009 at 10:28, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org wrote:

> This was where G3YXM's site originally was. You can now find it at
> http://wireless.org.uk/
> 
> I am sure Dave will comment in due course, I would assume all the stuff
> on the old site is now on the current one.
> 

And looking at Dave's site at http://www.wireless.org.uk/links.htm I 
see he has an out of date link to my pages. Having moved away from BT 
Internet all my @btinternet.com pages will now come up 'not found, my 
site can be accessed as per my signature. That is progress, and I am 
sure there are a whole host of invalid links from the early days of LF 
as people move on.

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com



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Thanks Graham. Will be on again today in between CQWW on 10m.

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/10/25 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>

>  Only  the  one  decode Roger  at  261 kmt
>
> G ..
>
>
>
>   2009-10-24 16:58   G3XBM   0.503917   -28   0   JO02dg   0.001   G0NBD
>  IO83   261   302   2009-10-24 22:42   G3XBM   0.503923   -26   0
>  JO02dg   0.001   G4FDD   IO93kx   212   334
>
>
>  *From:* Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 24, 2009 10:50 PM
> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> *Subject:* Re: LF: Re: 500kHz 1mW WSPR beaconing
>
> Clemens (et al),
>
> Just restarted the 500kHz WSPR beacon (have been out for a few hours) on
> 0.503910 +/-20Hz.
>
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM
>
> 2009/10/24 Clemens Paul <cpaul@gmx.net>
>
>>  Roger,
>>
>> what is your exact dial qrg?
>> Are you on air at present?
>> I'll watch out for your signal.
>>
>> 73
>> Clemens
>> DL4RAJ
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>
>> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 24, 2009 5:55 PM
>> *Subject:* LF: 500kHz 1mW WSPR beaconing
>>
>> This will be active periodically over the weekend. It would be nice to get
>> a few new reporters spotting me.
>>
>> 73s
>> Roger G3XBM
>>
>> --
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>> http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
>> G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088
>>
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Thanks Graham. Will be on again today in between CQWW on 10m.<br><br>73s<b=
r>Roger G3XBM<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/25 Graham <span di=
r=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet=
.co.uk</a>&gt;</span><br>
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<div style=3D"padding-left: 10px; padding-right: 10px; padding-top: 15px;"=
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<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Only=A0 the=A0 one=A0 decode Roger=A0=
=20
at=A0 261 kmt </font></div>
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<div style=3D"font-family: Tahoma; font-style: normal; font-variant: norma=
l; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-ad=
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d-inline-policy: continuous;">
<div><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"mailto:rogerlapthorn@gmail.com  CTRL + Click=
 to follow link" href=3D"mailto:rogerlapthorn@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank"=
>Roger Lapthorn</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 24, 2009 10:50 PM</div><div class=3D"i=
m">
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org  CTRL + Cl=
ick to follow link" href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D=
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</div>
</div><div><b>Subject:</b> Re: LF: Re: 500kHz 1mW WSPR beaconing</div></di=
v></div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">
<div><br></div>Clemens (et al),<br><br>Just restarted the 500kHz WSPR beac=
on=20
(have been out for a few hours) on 0.503910 +/-20Hz.<br><br>73s<br>Roger=
=20
G3XBM<br><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/24 Clemens Paul <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:cpaul@gmx.net" target=3D"_blank">cpaul@gmx.net</a>&gt;</s=
pan><br>
<blockquote style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0p=
t 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class=3D"gmail_quote">
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  <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Roger,</font></div>
  <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
  <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">what is your exact dial qrg?</font>=
</div>
  <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Are you on air at present?</font></=
div>
  <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">I&#39;ll watch out for your signal.=
</font></div>
  <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
  <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">73<br>Clemens<br>DL4RAJ</font></div=
>
  <blockquote style=3D"border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-left:=
 5px; padding-right: 0px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;">
    <div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: no=
rmal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size=
-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">-----=20
    Original Message ----- </div>
    <div style=3D"background: rgb(228, 228, 228) none repeat scroll 0% 0%;=
 font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight=
: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; -moz-background-clip: bord=
er; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: contin=
uous; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">
<b>From:</b>=20
    <a title=3D"rogerlapthorn@gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:rogerlapthorn@gmai=
l.com" target=3D"_blank">Roger Lapthorn</a> </div>
    <div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: no=
rmal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size=
-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b>=20
    <a title=3D"rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group=
@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a> </div>
    <div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: no=
rmal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size=
-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b>=20
    Saturday, October 24, 2009 5:55 PM</div>
    <div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: no=
rmal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size=
-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b>=20
    LF: 500kHz 1mW WSPR beaconing</div>
    <div><br></div>This will be active periodically over the weekend. It=
 would=20
    be nice to get a few new reporters spotting me.<br><br>73s<br>Roger G3=
XBM<br clear=3D"all"><br>--=20
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G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678=20
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Good day/eve/mng/afto

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Long haul towards Eu on 137 looks good my overnight with DCF39 some S9+10=
 on a quiet band even past sunup. QRN was less than previous nights as the=
 upper level disturbance moved away and the Typhoon to the South was a bit=
 less noisy.

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500kHz  produced=20

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2016 -29 1.0 0.503294 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 19th Oct 09 -=20

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This hasnt been uploaded yet as the internet, or internot as I call here=
 it, failed sometime during the wee hours.

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Ive been running rx on 500 up in KL7 remotely but nothing seen yet althoug=
h I have some work to do on the antennae as Im not best pleased with its=
 performance and can squeeze a better s/n out of it. Ill get to do that th=
is coming weekend when I back there, thats if the snow stays away, and the=
 ground isnt frozen too deeply.

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Good day/eve/mng/afto<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Long haul towards Eu on 137 looks good my overnight with DCF39 some S9+10=
 on a quiet band even past sunup. QRN was less than previous nights as the=
 upper level disturbance moved away and the Typhoon to the South was a bit=
 less noisy.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
500kHz&nbsp; produced <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
2016 -29 1.0 0.503294 0 SM6BHZ JO57 30 19th Oct 09 - <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
This hasnt been uploaded yet as the internet, or internot as I call here=
 it, failed sometime during the wee hours.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Ive been running rx on 500 up in KL7 remotely&nbsp;but nothing seen yet al=
though I have some work to do on the antennae as Im not best pleased with=
 its performance and can squeeze a better s/n out of it. Ill get to do tha=
t this coming weekend when I back there, thats if the snow stays away, and=
 the ground isnt frozen too deeply.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence in BY3A OM89UA<BR>
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559-579 in Bracknell IO91PJ with the usual 500kHz slow QSB Richard.

73 Dave G3YMC

On 12 Oct 2009 at 18:42, Richard Newstead wrote:

> As the title says. Reports welcome. EIRP about 100mW.
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Hello Gary,

Though this is a nice site for thunderstorm watchers, it does not cover
the main source of wintertime QRN: the Mediterranean!

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DI2AG with a good signal in JN35sa:

2014   6  3.9   0.505075  0 DI2AG JN59 27
2024  12  3.6   0.505075  0 DI2AG JN59 27
2028  13  3.3   0.505075  0 DI2AG JN59 27
2040  12  3.4   0.505075  0 DI2AG JN59 27

I suspect a bug in WSPR 1.1.2 ... the s/n was not +12 dB in 2400 Hz 
:-) that only happens when I close the receiver's BW at few tens of 
Hz (30 Hz currently). The WSPR signal is very clear, but the program 
fails the s/n measure.

23m long wire, Perseus SDR RX.

73 - Marco IK1ODO

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DI2AG with a good signal in JN35sa:<br><br>
2014&nbsp;&nbsp; 6&nbsp; 3.9&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.505075&nbsp; 0 DI2AG JN59
27<br>
2024&nbsp; 12&nbsp; 3.6&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.505075&nbsp; 0 DI2AG JN59 27<br>
2028&nbsp; 13&nbsp; 3.3&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.505075&nbsp; 0 DI2AG JN59 27<br>
2040&nbsp; 12&nbsp; 3.4&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.505075&nbsp; 0 DI2AG JN59
27<br><br>
I suspect a bug in WSPR 1.1.2 ... the s/n was <i>not +</i>12 dB in 2400
Hz :-) that only happens when I close the receiver's BW at few tens of Hz
(30 Hz currently). The WSPR signal is very clear, but the program fails
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23m long wire, Perseus SDR RX.<br><br>
73 - Marco IK1ODO<br>
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Hi Claude,
Just captured another from today at 1420utc, good daylight signal.

73,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo

2009/10/2 Claude Berthebaud <f8boj@club-internet.fr>

>  hi Gary
> many thanks for the capture
> good evening
> Claude F8boj JN16WA
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
> *To:* Rsgb_Lf_Group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> *Sent:* Friday, October 02, 2009 3:25 PM
> *Subject:* LF: 137kHz - F8BOJ
>
> Hi LF,
> Captured last night (2308utc - 01/10/2009).
>
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo
>
>

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Hi Claude,<div><br></div><div>Just captured another from today at 1420utc,=
 good daylight signal.</div><div><br></div><div>73,</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/2 Claud=
e Berthebaud <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:f8boj@club-internet.f=
r">f8boj@club-internet.fr</a>&gt;</span><br>
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px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">





<div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">hi Gary </font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">many thanks for the capture</font></d=
iv>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">good evening</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Claude F8boj JN16WA</font></div>
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  <div style=3D"font:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
  <div style=3D"background:#e4e4e4;font:10pt arial"><b>From:</b>=20
  <a title=3D"g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk" href=3D"mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk" tar=
get=3D"_blank">Gary -=20
  G4WGT</a> </div>
  <div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org" href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank"=
>Rsgb_Lf_Group</a> </div>
  <div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 02, 2009 3:2=
5=20
  PM</div>
  <div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> LF: 137kHz - F8BOJ</div>
  <div><br></div>Hi LF,
  <div><br></div>
  <div>Captured last night (2308utc - 01/10/2009).</div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div>73</div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo</div></blockquote></div>
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Hi Warren,LF
Capture XGJ
Henny cpm
best 73s

Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
XGJ 08-10.jpg

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Warren,LF</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Capture XGJ</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het 
volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:<BR>XGJ 
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Dear Jim, David,



I have been successfully using a variant of the second method, which works=
 by comparing received voltages of a strong distant transmitter (eg. DCF39=
) from the transmit antenna under test, versus a small nonresonant loop of=
 known geometrical area. The induced loop voltage is



=C2=A0Uloop =3D H * omega * aloop =3D E * aloop * 2 pi / lambda.



The effective height of the TX antenna then is



=C2=A0htx =3D Utx / E =3D Utx / Uloop * aloop * 2 pi / lambda,



and the radiation resistance



=C2=A0Rrad =3D 1579 ohm * (htx / lambda)**2



One advantage is that electrical near field shielding effects (eg. by tree=
s) are actually included in the voltage ratio, because the reference measu=
rement is based on magnetic field and thus hardly affected by moderately=
 conducting objects in the vicinity. As the effective height is only weakl=
y frequency dependent, the measurement can be done at a different frequenc=
y, depending on signal availibility.=20



Absolute receiver calibration is not required for the voltage ratio, but=
 you may have to apply a correction for loading of the tx antenna source=
 impedance by the receiver impedance:



=C2=A0Utx =3D Utx_loaded * (Rant + Rrec) / Rrec



I also found that I had to detune or disconnect the big antenna=C2=A0durin=
g the loop measurement.



Best regards,
Markus (DF6NM)


-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20
Von: James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Verschickt: Mi., 7. Okt. 2009, 21:57
Them
a: Re: LF: Re Propagation report



Dear David, LF Group,=C2=A0
=C2=A0
There are basically two ways of determining ERP, briefly:=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Method 1 is to calculate the radiation resistance (Rrad) of your antenna,=
 which can be done using various text-book formulae, or using antenna simu=
lation software like EZNEC or similar. Then you measure the RF current flo=
wing in the antenna (Iant). The ERP is then Iant^2 x Rrad x 1.8 (1.8 is th=
e directivity of electrically small vertical or loop antennas, which in pr=
actice is what all amateur 136kHz antennas are).=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Method 2 is to measure the field strength some km from the antenna. The ER=
P is then (E x d)^2 /49, where E is the field strength, d distance in metr=
es. This requires a calibrated antenna and measuring receiver, so is more=
 complicated to do.=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Method 1 is simpler to do, but yields ERP results that tend to be lower th=
an those obtained by method 2. This is thought to be due to various combin=
ed environmental effects on the antenna, which are not accounted for in th=
e simple calculation. So to get a more accurate and definitive figure, you=
 need to do method 2, but as far as compliance with licence conditions is=
 concerned, method 1 is a conservative way of checking.=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Good luck in your efforts!=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Cheers, Jim Moritz=C2=A0
73 de M0BMU=C2=A0
=C2=A0
----- Original Message ----- but From: "David Weinreich" <David.Weinreich@=
globalstar.com>=C2=A0
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>=C2=A0
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 8:17 PM=C2=A0
Subject
: Re: LF: Re Propagation report=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Peter,=C2=A0
=C2=A0
As an interested observer from the other side of the pond, how do you dete=
rmine that you are close to the ERP limit?? I'd be interested in knowing=
 as I am trying to do some pro-bono work for the ARRL on getting use of 13=
7 kHz here in the USA.=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Tnx & 73,=C2=A0
=C2=A0
David Weinreich=C2=A0
WA2VUJ/3=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0

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<div>Dear Jim, David,</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>I have been successfully using a variant of the second method, which=
 works by comparing received voltages of a strong distant transmitter (eg.=
 DCF39) from the transmit antenna under test, versus a small nonresonant=
 loop of known geometrical area. The induced loop voltage is</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>&nbsp;Uloop =3D H * omega * aloop =3D E * aloop * 2 pi / lambda.</div=
>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>The effective height of the TX antenna then is</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>&nbsp;htx =3D Utx / E =3D Utx / Uloop * aloop * 2 pi / lambda,</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>and the radiation resistance</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>&nbsp;Rrad =3D 1579 ohm * (htx / lambda)**2</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>One advantage is that electrical near field shielding effects (eg. by=
 trees) are actually included in the voltage ratio, because the reference=
 measurement is based on magnetic field and thus hardly affected by modera=
tely conducting objects in the vicinity. As the effective height is only=
 weakly frequency dependent, the measurement can be done at a different fr=
equency, depending on signal availibility. </div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>Absolute receiver calibration is not required for the voltage ratio,=
 but you may have to apply a correction for loading of the tx antenna sour=
ce impedance by the receiver impedance:</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>&nbsp;Utx =3D Utx_loaded * (Rant + Rrec) / Rrec</div>


<div>
&nbsp;</div>


<div>I also found that I had to detune or disconnect the big antenna&nbsp;=
during the loop measurement.</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>Best regards,<br>
Markus (DF6NM)<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung----- <br>
Von: James Moritz &lt;james.moritz@btopenworld.com&gt;<br>
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>
Verschickt: Mi., 7. Okt. 2009, 21:57<br>
Thema: Re: LF: Re Propagation report<br>
<br>
</div>


<div id=3DAOLMsgPart_0_3fe63294-060e-4b98-b6dd-eb47cd6aff7d style=3D"FONT-=
SIZE: 12px; MARGIN: 0px; COLOR: #000; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial,=
 Sans-Serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff">Dear David, LF Group,&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
There are basically two ways of determining ERP, briefly:&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Method 1 is to calculate the radiation resistance (Rrad) of your antenna,=
 which can be done using various text-book formulae, or using antenna simu=
lation software like EZNEC or similar. Then you measure the RF current flo=
wing in the antenna (Iant). The ERP is then Iant^2 x Rrad x 1.8 (1.8 is th=
e directivity of electrically small vertical or loop antennas, which in pr=
actice is what all amateur 136kHz antennas are).&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Method 2 is to measure the field strength some km from the antenna. The ER=
P is then (E x d)^2 /49, where E is the field strength, d distance in metr=
es. This requires a calibrated antenna and measuring receiver, so is more=
 complicated to do.&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Method 1 is simpler to do, but yields ERP results that tend to be lower th=
an those obtained by method 2. This is thought to be due to=20
various combined environmental effects on the antenna, which are not accou=
nted for in the simple calculation. So to get a more accurate and definiti=
ve figure, you need to do method 2, but as far as compliance with licence=
 conditions is concerned, method 1 is a conservative way of checking.&nbsp=
;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Good luck in your efforts!&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Cheers, Jim Moritz&nbsp;<br>
73 de M0BMU&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
----- Original Message ----- but From: "David Weinreich" &lt;<A href=3D"ma=
ilto:David.Weinreich@globalstar.com">David.Weinreich@globalstar.com</A>&gt=
;&nbsp;<br>
To: &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</A>&gt;&nbsp;<br>
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 8:17 PM&nbsp;<br>
Subject: Re: LF: Re Propagation report&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Peter,&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
As an interested observer from the other side of the pond, how do you dete=
rmine that you are close to the ERP limit?? I'd be interested in knowing=
 as I am trying to do some pro-bono work for the ARRL on getting use of 13=
7 kHz here in the USA.&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Tnx &amp; 73,&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
David Weinreich&nbsp;<br>
WA2VUJ/3&nbsp;<br>
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160M vy quiet tonite, no DX hrd so far.
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Hello Garry, LF!

What's a signal on the 504.7 kHz visible onto G4WGT grabber at moment?

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Well we had an early evening storm and thereafter the local clouds were st=
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Hi Gary,
All seems to work OK here as well.
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At 2050z.

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Ken wrote:
> To all LF,s
> Sunday October 4th, I will be on 502.00 at 10.00 UTC, 100mW hand keyed cw.
>  
> 73
> Ken
>  
> M0KHW.
Where are you located ken?

73

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Hello Graham,
since a couple of minutes i have also success to decode your Thorb transmi=
ssion:

 QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEYQMOONQUUA3EO6789 GPNBD TESTINGOAH1IM=
1JRGCM5VI8CX (WBGCSP,UZJA3X,G3DUBSNL0,)V2BVMF2QPN13OLVMO511IQC 4BBJMU.MBNO=
S/A2,0I2B,J2LP8=3D2,IBJ8715NMG.O,1U5O6)D7AGHE 19ICK RNWN FOI VUJPEDF5VER=
 .BE AZTM MOO .0.23A566789 G0NBD TVFTINGS28U90K9RT8HDJP1TDH9FNI)2N.D7RP8QS=
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LMLG3R18KMTNN5SOTHQ NUICK BROWN FOR JUJPQD 5VT2MTHV LAGTQ MO...

I use MultiPSK 4.14 (http://f6cte.free.fr/)

thanks for signal
regards, vy73
Marco
DD7PC, JN49ax

________________________________
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@black=
sheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham
Sent: 27 October 2009 22:39
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000

Report  from Gary , that he  is  getting  100% decode with  Multipsk    an=
d  slightly less  using Fldigi ......

MULTIPSK        >>>>>        http://f6cte.free.fr/index_anglais.htm  <<<<<=
<<<<<<

From: Graham<mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:28 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000

Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency

TX set  502.000 USB
Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency

Repeat time 60  seconds

RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'  time

Reports / observations

Tnx  Graham

G0NBD - IO83LK



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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D666414621-27102009><FONT face=3D=
Arial  color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Hello Graham,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D666414621-27102009><FONT face=3D=
Arial  color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>since a couple of minutes i have also succ=
ess to decode=20
your Thorb transmission:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D666414621-27102009><FONT face=3D=
Arial  color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D666414621-27102009><STRONG><FONT=
  size=3D1>&nbsp;</FONT></STRONG><FONT color=3D#ff0000>QUICK BROWN FOX JUM=
PED OVER THE=20
LAZEYQMOON</FONT>QUUA3EO6789 <FONT color=3D#ff0000>GPNBD=20
TESTING</FONT>OAH1IM1JRGCM5VI8CX=20
(WBGCSP,UZJA3X,G3DUBSNL0,)V2BVMF2QPN13OLVMO511IQC=20
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CK BROWN=20
FOR</FONT> JUJPQD 5VT2MTHV LAGTQ MO<SPAN  class=3D666414621-27102009>...</=
SPAN></DIV>
<P dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D666414621-27102009><FONT face=3DAr=
ial  color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I use MultiPSK 4.14 (</FONT></SPAN><A  title=
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e=3D1>http://f6cte.free.fr/</FONT></STRONG></A><FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
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</FONT></FONT></FONT><BR></P>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D666414621-27102009><FONT face=3D=
Arial  color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>thanks for signal </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D666414621-27102009><FONT face=3D=
Arial  color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>regards, vy73</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D666414621-27102009><FONT face=3D=
Arial  color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Marco</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D666414621-27102009><FONT face=3D=
Arial  color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>DD7PC, JN49ax</FONT></SPAN></DIV></SPAN><B=
R>
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<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o=
rg=20
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <B>On Behalf Of=20
</B>Graham<BR><B>Sent:</B> 27 October 2009 22:39<BR><B>To:</B>=20
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Throb -2- beacon=
 503.000=20
<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Report&nbsp; from Gary , that he&nbsp; is=
&nbsp;=20
getting&nbsp; 100% decode with&nbsp; Multipsk&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; and&nbsp;=
=20
slightly less&nbsp; using Fldigi ......</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MULTIPSK&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A  title=
=3D"http://f6cte.free.fr/index_anglais.htm&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link=
"  href=3D"http://f6cte.free.fr/index_anglais.htm">http://f6cte.free.fr/in=
dex_anglais.htm</A>&nbsp;=20
&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A  title=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8=
fzk.fsnet.co.uk&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"  href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8f=
zk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:28 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org  href=3D"mailto:rs=
gb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000 </DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Running&nbsp; THROB-2-&nbsp; Beacon&nbsp;=
&nbsp;=20
503.000 khz centre&nbsp; frequency </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>TX set&nbsp; 502.000 USB</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Audio&nbsp; 1000 Hz cent frequency </FONT=
></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Repeat time 60&nbsp; seconds&nbsp; </FONT=
></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RX&nbsp; 'ON'&nbsp; during cycle tx 'off'=
=20
&nbsp;time </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Reports / observations&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT=
></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tnx&nbsp; Graham</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>G0NBD - IO83LK </FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><BR><BR=
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Wolf ,

Listed are Uk and EU  grabbers on the  Google uk500khz news  group=20

http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers

This one , 'grab2'  covers your  frequency :-

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html

If you have  or find any other   links to grabbers , please  add  to=
 the  page=20

Tnx - Graham

G0NBD




From: Wolf Ostwald=20
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 1:59 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: European "grabbers"


Hello All !

Are there any "grabber"-stations in Europe that have a real-time displ=
ay accessible via internet ?

Will start my MF-beacon DI2BJ on 505.030 kHz by tmw with regular CW.

Reports are welcome  J    73 de wolf  df2py / DI2BJ



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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Wolf ,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Listed are Uk and EU&nbsp; grabbers=
 on the&nbsp;=20
Google uk500khz news&nbsp; group </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><A   title=3D"http://groups.google.co=
m/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>This one , 'grab2'&nbsp; covers your&=
nbsp;=20
frequency :-</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><A   title=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co=
.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"=
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html">http://myweb.tiscal=
i.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>If you have&nbsp; or find any other&n=
bsp;&nbsp;=20
links to&nbsp;grabbers , please&nbsp; add&nbsp; to the&nbsp; page </FO=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx - Graham</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G0NBD</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:df2=
py@t-online.de&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailto:df2py=
@t-online.de">Wolf Ostwald</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, October 31, 2009 1:59 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&#10;=
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: European "grabbers"</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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real-time display accessible via internet ?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></=
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT=
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT=
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Hi John contact the guy at HQ who runs the Museum. I dropped in an "RSGB"
diary for 1926 which had a call book bound into it he should be in there. It
was in Arthur Gee's (G2UK) effects. I should have scanned it !!
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An article with this title was published in The Wireless World & Radio
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Does anyone know who 2ZD was?

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HI Dmitry
Thanks for the pics control's
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> Hi Claude!
> 
> Claude Berthebaud wrote:
>> Good evening ALL
>> The Beacon "BOJ" is open  QRSS60  137776.2hz
>> Good night
>> Claude F8boj JN16WA
> Dmitry
> RA3YO
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Hi Mal
OK Mal, I search your signal on 500kHz.
Vy 73!
Marcin SQ2BXI

Marcin
Can u work xband I will TX 502.57 qrs3 and I will QSX 137.7
 Let me know
de mal/g3kev

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Hi LF!
Station SP2KDS will be work today,
Operation in QRSS will start from 19:00 UTC on 137.700kHz (QRRS3) and
137,778kHz (QRSS60).
Vy 73!
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Yes Ossi, i hope a contact with you soon.
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Dans un e-mail dat=E9 du 25/10/2009 15:46:53 Paris, Madrid, o.ossy@inext.a=
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 =E9crit :

hallo  nicolas !
after your cq call i was  calling you, but  no answer  ,after a time i=20
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your signal was   readable .
now i saw you calling me but it was to late sorry so ,
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Well, as compared to last night LF/MF is very quiet QRN wise; we had an up=
per level disturbance spinning Eastwards to my East last night and QRN was=
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Well, as compared to last night LF/MF is very quiet QRN wise; we had an up=
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Hi Horst

I've just installed one of Roelof Bakker's (PA0RDT) active mini whips=
 and it
is excellent at my QTH.  Just my view, others may have different exper=
iences

With best regards
=20
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Jim
=20
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Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS


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Hello,
now that I am happy with my selectiv level meter Praecitronic MV-62 I=
 am
looking for the best receicing antenna.
Especially I am interested in 400khz, 136kHz, 72kHz and below 22 kHz.=
 With
my 40m longwire reception is not good enough and with a frame antenna=
 of
900m copper wire it was disappointing, too..
I think, an active antenna for 0 to 500 MHz would be the best for me=
 - but I
am looking forward to any other idea.
vy73 Horst DO1KHS
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My broadband link is out of service and is unlikely to be fixed before
Monday 55th.

Meanwhile, via a lashup dialup link and a lot of cut and paste, here is a
summry of what I have received:

HB9ASB 20dB over noise about 1800z. 3/10/09.=20

M0BMU 15 to 20dB over QRN calling RU6LA at 1916z. 3/10/09.

F4DTL 20dB over QRN at 2000z. 3/10/09.

F8BOJ 40dB over QRN on 137 at 0710z. 4/10/09.

73
John F5VLF

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Hello Graham, LF!
I see your beacon=B4s packets very well.

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS
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Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000  =20








Running  THROB-2-  Beacon  =20
503.000 khz centre  frequency=20
=20
TX set  502.000 USB
Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency=20
=20
Repeat time 60  seconds =20
=20
RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'=20
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Tnx  Graham
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Hello Graham, LF!<br>I see your beacon=B4s packets very well.<br><br>73!<b=
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<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Running&nbsp; THROB-2-&nbsp; Beacon&n=
bsp;&nbsp;=20
503.000 khz centre&nbsp; frequency </font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">TX set&nbsp; 502.000 USB</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Audio&nbsp; 1000 Hz cent frequency </=
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<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Tnx&nbsp; Graham</font></div>
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hi LF
Beacon open 137776.20hz "boj" qrss60
good evening..
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Hi Marcus,

Very interesting.  What software are you using with the sound card, please=
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On 10/10/2009 at 22:17 Marcus, PY2PLL-PY3CRX wrote:

>Hi:
>
>I've been testing the detection of Loran chains on southern hemisphere,
>using an ssb receiver and sound card app, tied to GPS PPS.
>
>Initial results can be viewed at:
>
>http://py.qsl.br/images/GRI8930.png (17923Km)
>http://py.qsl.br/images/GRI9990.png (13000 to 15000Km)
>http://py.qsl.br/images/LORAN.png (several chains)
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Hello LF!
I see good WSPR signal of G4JNT on 503.850kHz.

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Hello LF!<br>I see good WSPR signal of G4JNT on 503.850kHz.<br><br>Lubos,=
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At 11:22 6/10/2009, you wrote:
>Hi Steve,
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>Well, I can't see any reason for the non-connect from my end, I will 
>give you my main web address & you can try from the links page (if 
>you get in that is) :-
>
><http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/>http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/

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Well, I can't see any reason for the non-connect from my end, I will give
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HI Oswald and LF
good morning wald..
very good copy trong signal in 137 khz
many thanks for the qso and gud week and
Claude F8boj JN16WA

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Good Night Henny
Best 73=20
Claude F8boj
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: henny van elst=20
  To: blacksheep=20
  Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 1:08 AM
  Subject: LF: 137775,6khz


      Tnx for the grabbers,

  pa3cpm is qrt,
  best 73s to all.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good Night Henny</FONT></DIV>
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Nicolas,
Here now local QRM. But, I hope, later the aether becomes purer.

73 Andrey



Yes andrey thanx, im beaconing now on 137776 QRSS90 with 300W but the rain
modified the values of the antenna.

Regards Friend.
F4DTL Nicolas

Dans un e-mail daté du 21/10/2009 22:53:46 Paris, Madrid (heure d'été),
rn3agc@mail.ru a écrit :

Nicolas,
If there is a possibility, too try. Propagation good,  for
certain and your signal here will be visible.

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Added  PSK31  on  503.300  , will be a  -3 dB  drop in peak level when=
 in simultaneous  TX due to  tx alc action=20

503.000    throb -2-
503.300    PSK31=20

    Tnx - G ..=20


From: Graham=20
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Subject: Re: LF: Throb -2- Beacon running on 503.000 center frequency


Thank you  for the  report Gerhard=20

Be interested as to your  comments on the  decode , compared to the =
 psk qso=20
as it looks like the  condx are worse ?=20

What is the  peak signal level ?

tnx - G=20



From: Graham=20
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Subject: LF: Throb -2- Beacon running on 503.000 center frequency


Throb 2 beacon on 503.000 =20

running  :  fldigi , throb mode -2- center  frequency  503.000 Khz=20

TX  set USB , Rx 'on during  60 second tx pause ,

Interested to  see  how the  mode prints / recovers  in the  noise /=
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Reports welcome ,

Tnx - Graham
G0NBD




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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Added&nbsp; PSK31&nbsp; on&nbsp; 503.=
300&nbsp; ,=20
will be a&nbsp; -3 dB&nbsp; drop in peak level when in simultaneous&nb=
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to&nbsp; tx alc action </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>503.000&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;throb=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>503.300&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;PSK31=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx - G .. </=
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dg8fzk@g8fzk.f=
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Throb -2- Beacon running on 503.000 cente=
r=20
frequency</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thank you&nbsp; for the&nbsp; report=
 Gerhard=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Be interested as to your&nbsp; commen=
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the&nbsp; decode , compared to the&nbsp; psk qso </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>as it looks like the&nbsp; condx are=
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</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>What is the&nbsp; peak signal level=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>tnx - G </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: Throb -2- Beacon running on 503.000 center=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Throb 2 beacon on 503.000&nbsp; </FON=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>running&nbsp; :&nbsp; </FONT><FONT si=
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bsp; 503.000 Khz=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>TX &nbsp;set USB , Rx 'on during&nbsp=
; 60 second tx=20
pause ,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Interested to&nbsp; see&nbsp; how the=
&nbsp; mode=20
prints / recovers &nbsp;in the&nbsp; noise / qsb&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Reports welcome</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT siz=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx - Graham</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G0NBD</FONT></DIV>
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> 73
> John F5VLF
>
> *** 'crazy'?  That's nothing.  According to UK automobile regulations, the 
> Reliant Robin (a 3-wheeled vehicle with a fully enclosed fibreglass body) 
> is a motorcycle

Oh no its not   ...  Its a  motorcycle  combination .. ie  motorcycle with 
a side  car .and has 3 wheels ... with  only  one driven   . just happens to 
have a big fibreglass shell   ..... and can be  driven by the  holder of a 
full motorcycle licence ... as could the  bubble car 
.http://farm1.static.flickr.com/10/14490403_ff3d2de8dd.jpg.. and  of  course 
the  French version >>http://www.velomobile.de/interlj31a.jpg
to mention just a  few :)  oh and this  as well >> 
http://www.cartype.com/pics/6541/small/sinclair_c5_1.jpg   .... ????

G .. 





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SO5AS also visible here in JN36NU, but difficult, M at best
73 de HB9ASB

2009/10/11, Lubos OK2BVG <bvgbob@hotmail.com>:
>
> Hello LF!
> I just see very good signal of SO5AS. FRQ =3D 137.700
>
> Lubos, OK2BVG
>                  =20
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Same as last time .. just  showing at B-Ham but not at Gary grabber .=
 but this time moving the  S metre on the  1778  10 dB over the  noise=
 at times=20

G ..


From: Graham=20
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 7:39 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: G0VSJ cw beacon 503.25=20


Getting a signal from G0VSJ  cw beacon on 503.25  , sig about S4 in io=
83lk
giving  qth as io82tp  .. I think was the beacon I picked up last week=
 , but stronger this time !

G .=20


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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Same as last time .. just&nbsp; showi=
ng at B-Ham=20
but not at Gary grabber . but this time moving the&nbsp; S metre on th=
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1778&nbsp; 10 dB over the&nbsp; noise at times </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G ..</FONT></DIV>
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snet.co.uk   href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 04, 2009 7:39 PM</DIV>
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to:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: G0VSJ cw beacon 503.25 </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Getting a signal from G0VSJ&nbsp; cw=
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503.25&nbsp; , sig about S4 in io83lk</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>giving&nbsp; qth as io82tp&nbsp; ..=
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beacon I picked up last week , but stronger this time !</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G . </FONT></DIV>
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Graham,

 

it is not easy to tell you real values, but I would say in comparison to
WSPR-Signals between -12 dB and -18 dB;  

also in comparison to the audibility of the Thorb-2 signal.

And I have to say, a lot of QRM / QRN this evening.

That it talking for Thorb-2 (hi)

 

vy 73 de Gerhard  //  DK6NI

 

========

 

 

  _____  

Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Graham
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Oktober 2009 22:49
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: Re: LF: AW: Throb -2- beacon 503.000 

 

Thanks Gerhard ,

 

What is your opinion of the  signal strength / quality ....compared to the
recovery of the text .... ??

 

THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTING

 

 

From: Beckmann, <mailto:beckmann.erlangen@freenet.de>  Gerhard 

Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:32 PM

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 

Cc: 'Graham' <mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>  

Subject: LF: AW: Throb -2- beacon 503.000 

 

Hello Graham,

 

now first "lines of code"  (hi).

Condx seem to increase now (hopefully.)

 

THE 1UICK BROWN FOX JUMP7D OVER EHE LAZEY M63NA91K247.6788 G0NBD TESTING

 

Best 73 de Gerhard  //  DK6NI

 

============================= 

  _____  

Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
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Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Oktober 2009 18:28
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Betreff: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000 

 

Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency 

 

TX set  502.000 USB

Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency 

 

Repeat time 60  seconds  

 

RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'  time 

 

Reports / observations   

 

Tnx  Graham

 

G0NBD - IO83LK  

 

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Graham,<o:p></o=
:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>it=
 is not easy to tell you
real values, but I would say in comparison to WSPR-Signals between -12=
 dB and
-18 dB;&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>als=
o in comparison to the
<u>audibility</u> of the Thorb-2 signal.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>And=
 I have to say, a lot
of QRM / QRN this evening.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Tha=
t it talking for
Thorb-2 (hi)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>vy=
 73 de Gerhard&nbsp; //&nbsp;
DK6NI<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New Rom=
an"><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;</s=
pan></font><span lang=3DEN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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t size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Von:</span></font=
></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:Tahoma'> owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@black=
sheep.org</st1:PersonName> [mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">r=
sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName>] <b><span style=3D'font-w=
eight:bold'>Im Auftrag von </span></b>Graham<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Dienstag, 27.=
 Oktober
2009 22:49<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:s=
t=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> Re: LF: AW: Th=
rob -2-
beacon 503.000 </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Thanks Gerhard ,</span></font><o:p></o:=
p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>What is your opinion of the&nbsp; signa=
l strength / quality
....compared to the&nbsp; recovery of the text .... ??</span></font><o=
:p></o:p></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOO=
N 0123456789 G0NBD TESTING<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-=
size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<div style=3D'font-color:black'>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><font size=3D2=
 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font=
-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><spa=
n style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a href=3D"mailto:bec=
kmann.erlangen@freenet.de" title=3D"mailto:beckmann.erlangen@freenet.d=
e&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link">Beckmann,
Gerhard</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><font size=3D2=
 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font=
-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><spa=
n style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Tuesday,
October 27, 2009 9:32 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><font size=3D2=
 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font=
-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span=
 style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a href=3D"mailto:rsgb=
_lf_group@blacksheep.org" title=3D"rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_=
lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><font size=3D2=
 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font=
-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span=
 style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a href=3D"mailto:g8fz=
k@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk" title=3D"g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">'Graham'</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><font size=3D2=
 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font=
-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><=
span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> LF: AW:
Throb -2- beacon 503.000 <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

</div>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hello Graham,<o=
:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>now=
 first &#8222;lines of
code&#8220;&nbsp; (hi).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Con=
dx seem to increase
now (hopefully&#8230;)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span=
 lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;f=
ont-weight:bold'>THE
1UICK BROWN FOX JUMP7D OVER EHE LAZEY M63NA91K247.6788 G0NBD TESTING<o=
:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Bes=
t 73 de Gerhard&nbsp;
//&nbsp; DK6NI<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New Rom=
an"><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New Rom=
an"><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D&nbsp;</span></font><span lang=3DEN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>

</div>

</div>

<div>

<div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><fon=
t size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>

<hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter tabIndex=3D-1>

</span></font></div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Von:</span></font=
></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:Tahoma'> <a href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org"=
>owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>
[mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
</st1:PersonName>]
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Im Auftrag von </span></b>Graham<b=
r>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Dienstag, 27.=
 Oktober
2009 18:28<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b> <a href=3D"mailto:r=
sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> LF: Throb -2-=
 beacon
503.000 </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Running&nbsp; THROB-2-&nbsp; Beacon&nbs=
p;&nbsp; 503.000 khz
centre&nbsp; frequency </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>TX set&nbsp; 502.000 USB</span></font><=
o:p></o:p></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Audio&nbsp; 1000 Hz cent frequency </sp=
an></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Repeat time 60&nbsp; seconds&nbsp; </sp=
an></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>RX&nbsp; 'ON'&nbsp; during cycle tx 'of=
f' &nbsp;time </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Reports / observations&nbsp;&nbsp; </sp=
an></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Tnx&nbsp; Graham</span></font><o:p></o:=
p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>G0NBD - IO83LK </span></font>&nbsp;<o:p=
></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D3 fac=
e=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></font></p>

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Dear MF,
in Germany only DI2BO still has a permission for 440KHz. Normally we=
 have 505,0-505,2KHz, only beacon mode. Sorry. The 9W  is ok.
73  Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: John RABSON=20
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  Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:29 AM
  Subject: LF: Re: 505kHz availability


  The following table was published in "500kHz and Cave Radio", CREGJ=
 issue 70, March 2008, p9.

  Please advise of any errors.

  73,
  F5VLF/G3PAI
  =20
        Country
       kHz
       E(I)RP
      =20
        USA
       505-514
       Up to 1200W*
      =20
        UK
       501-504
       1W
      =20
        Germany
       440, 505-505.2
       9W
      =20
        Belgium
       501-504
       5W
      =20
        Sweden
       505-505.2
       1W
      =20
        Czech Rep
       505-505.2
       1W
      =20

  * transmitter output power



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear MF,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>in Germany only DI2BO still has a per=
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440KHz. Normally we have 505,0-505,2KHz, only beacon mode. Sorry. The=
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=20
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  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>73,</DIV>
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Hi Tim,
Point the cursor at the right side of the Argo display & click the right
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2009/10/3 tim hague <m0afj@dsl.pipex.com>

> I'm trying to set up Argo, I can get copy on the vertical waterfall but not
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Roger Lapthorn wrote:
> Just seen Rik's decode and now this!!!!!
> 
>  2009-10-17 19:14  G3XBM  0.503936  -26  0  JO02dg  0.001  GM4SLV  IP90gg
>  896  354
> This is staggering!!!
> 

And not a fluke:

1924 -26  2.9   0.503936 -1 G3XBM JO02 0

A second decode!

Nice.... :-)

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Dear all,

G3LDO audible 559, some QRN, in eastern Bavaria, JN68GN, on 501,1 kHz in
QRSS around 22.40 UTC.

Yesterday night I had no time to listen, sri.

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB

 


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Thanks  Gerhard DK6NI  ,For a excellent  cross band qso , IO83LK > JN5=
9LN  ..  distance of    658.1 miles=20
reports  from Gerhard rst  559  , stable with  good  print , start at=
 20:00  utc , might of been 20 mins=20
too soon as  80 mtrs was quite unstable ...till later  on ...

Running  ~  200 watts  peak carrier power to 35  ft top loaded vertica=
l , fldigi tx software=20

Interestingly, Digipan was printing better than fldigi on my 80 mtr =
 rx signal =20

73 - G ..

G0NBD=20



From: Graham=20
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To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: X band qso ? 503 / 3585 PSK31=20


X band data qso ? =20

Running at the  moment  and will try later  tonight=20
PSK31=20

TX    503.000  psk31 ...
RX   QRG  503.000 Khz   and  3858  KHz=20

tnx- Graham=20


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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks&nbsp; Gerhard DK6NI&nbsp; ,For=
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&nbsp;cross band qso , IO83LK &gt;&nbsp;JN59LN&nbsp; ..&nbsp; distance=
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of&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>658.1 miles </=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>reports&nbsp; from Gerhard rst&nbsp;=
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stable with&nbsp; good&nbsp; print , start at 20:00&nbsp; utc , might=
 of been 20=20
mins </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>too soon as&nbsp; 80 mtrs was quite=
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...till later&nbsp; on ...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; ~&nbsp; 200 watts&nbsp;=
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power to 35&nbsp; ft top loaded vertical , fldigi tx software </FONT><=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Interestingly, Digipan was printing=
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fldigi on my 80 mtr&nbsp; rx signal &nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73 - G ..</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>X band data qso ?&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Running at the&nbsp; moment&nbsp; and=
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later&nbsp; tonight </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>PSK31 </FONT></DIV>
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...</FONT></DIV>
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Hello Warren,LF,
Nice capture XGJ
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Merci pour le rapport, John, 73

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Thanks for the reports of the beacon last night .. from the reports it=
 looks like the  mode , though not apparently 'in vogue' put up quite=
 a  good  show , I will paste the  results to the  uk500khz news group=
 ...=20

73 - G ,,

G3PPT   web site : http://www.lsear.freeserve.co.uk/index.html


From: Graham=20
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To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon QRT 2400=20


Beacon   QRT 2400 =20

Many thanks  for the reports  ....  interesting results=20

73

Graham ..  =20


From: Graham=20
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To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency=20

TX set  502.000 USB
Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency=20

Repeat time 60  seconds =20

RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'  time=20

Reports / observations  =20

Tnx  Graham

G0NBD - IO83LK =20





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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks for the reports of the beacon=
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the&nbsp; uk500khz news group ... </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73 - G ,,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G3PPT&nbsp;&nbsp; web site&nbsp;: </F=
ONT><FONT   size=3D2 face=3DArial><A   title=3D"http://www.lsear.frees=
erve.co.uk/index.html&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"http:=
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:g8f=
zk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailto=
:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 27, 2009 11:57 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&#10;=
CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=
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</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: Throb -2- beacon QRT 2400 </DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Beacon&nbsp;&nbsp; QRT 2400&nbsp; </F=
ONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Many thanks&nbsp; for the reports&nbs=
p; ....&nbsp;=20
interesting results&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Graham .. &nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dg8fzk@g8fzk.f=
snet.co.uk   href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:28 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mail=
to:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000 </DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; THROB-2-&nbsp; Beacon&n=
bsp;&nbsp;=20
503.000 khz centre&nbsp; frequency </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>TX set&nbsp; 502.000 USB</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Audio&nbsp; 1000 Hz cent frequency </=
FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Repeat time 60&nbsp; seconds&nbsp; </=
FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>RX&nbsp; 'ON'&nbsp; during cycle tx=
 'off'=20
&nbsp;time </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Reports / observations&nbsp;&nbsp; </=
FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx&nbsp; Graham</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G0NBD - IO83LK </FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><BR=
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Chris try single ended Class-E very simple, ok they need a modicum of tuning
but have been used successfully by Mike GW4HXO and Finbar EI0CF and others
up to about 500W.  I have some notes on experiments at
http://www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk/classepa.htm
They are best operated at at least 24 volts and better at around 50, 60, or
even 75 with the right FETs.

Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
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Subject: LF: Re: Re: AF Amps at 136


Thanks for your comments Mal, I did wonder if such an approach was wise.
Let's see what others have to say on the matter. I also have my suspicions
about FETs in class D and the level of crud that could result.
Thanks again.
Chris, G4AYT.
  ----- Original Message -----
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  Chris
  Do  not use audio amps for RF. Build a class D or E amp and operate
trouble free. Audio amps were tried by some in the early days but never
worked properly.
  Read the horror stories of yesteryears about using audio amps for RF
applications. Buckets of burnt out FETS.
  73 De Mal/g3kev

    ----- Original Message -----
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    Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 2:13 PM
    Subject: LF: AF Amps at 136


    Hi All,
    Just started constructing TX for 136kHz, noticed Maplin do a Velleman
audio PA kit that is rated at 200W (100W RMS into 4R). OK there's no mains
transformer or heat sink, but reckon it's good value at £14.99. Point is the
specs also say the minus 3db frequency response is 3Hz / 200kHz.
    The RSGB books 'LF Today' refer to using audio amps as PAs at 136 with
'a few modifications'. Does anybody know where these modifications are
documented? I guess there's nothing major, reduce a few cap values? Remove
Zobel Network etc.?? If anyone has experience with this approach I would
appreciate some hints. Thanks.
    Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable.


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I also listened to CW QSOs between G3LDO, G3XIV and EI0CF on the eveni=
ng of 29th. September 2009, all excellent signals, 100% copy. Great!=
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mal hamilton wrote:

> Tnx Vern nw qso sq7mpj. pse call now de mal/g3kev

Dear Mal,
tnx very much for my first x-band 500kc(qrss3)/7Mhz(CW)  qso.  Of 
course, i will  also confirm  our qso via qsl card.
please  tell me whether it may  go direct or via the bureau
you will find (enclosed) the last characters of ur qrss3 transmission.-  
indeed a perfect  and strong signal here , in poland  at this moment
RX side: 1sq meter loop with a simple homemade buffer/amplifier and ft857d
TX side:  ic746pro / w3dzz
                                                          
                                                      73 de  Piotr, sq7mpj

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Dear David, LF Group,

There are basically two ways of determining ERP, briefly:

Method 1 is to calculate the radiation resistance (Rrad) of your antenna, 
which can be done using various text-book formulae, or using antenna 
simulation software like EZNEC or similar. Then you measure the RF current 
flowing in the antenna (Iant). The ERP is then Iant^2 x Rrad x 1.8 (1.8 is 
the directivity of electrically small vertical or loop antennas, which in 
practice is what all amateur 136kHz antennas are).

Method 2 is to measure the field strength some km from the antenna. The ERP 
is then (E x d)^2 /49, where E is the field strength, d distance in metres. 
This requires a calibrated antenna and measuring receiver, so is more 
complicated to do.

Method 1 is simpler to do, but yields ERP results that tend to be lower than 
those obtained by method 2. This is thought to be due to various combined 
environmental effects on the antenna, which are not accounted for in the 
simple calculation. So to get a more accurate and definitive figure, you 
need to do method 2, but as far as compliance with licence conditions is 
concerned, method 1 is a conservative way of checking.

Good luck in your efforts!

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

----- Original Message ----- 
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Peter,

As an interested observer from the other side of the pond, how do you 
determine that you are close to the ERP limit?? I'd be interested in knowing 
as I am trying to do some pro-bono work for the ARRL on getting use of 137 
kHz here in the USA.

Tnx & 73,

David Weinreich
WA2VUJ/3




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Roger=20

This happened ..

G ,,

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       2009-10-24 16:58   G3XBM   0.503917   -28   0   JO02dg   0.001=
   G0NBD   IO83   261   302 =20



From: Roger Lapthorn=20
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 4:55 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: 500kHz 1mW WSPR beaconing


This will be active periodically over the weekend. It would be nice to=
 get a few new reporters spotting me.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088



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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Roger </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>This happened ..</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G ,,</FONT></DIV>
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    <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;2009-10-24 16:58&nbsp;</TD>
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Roger,

this message came too late for me (already sleeping). :-)
At which time will you run your beacon again his evening?
It seems that around 22.00UTC signals from GB on 500kHz are peaking here.

73
Clemens
DL4RAJ

  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 10:50 PM
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  Clemens (et al),

  Just restarted the 500kHz WSPR beacon (have been out for a few hours) on 0.503910 +/-20Hz.

  73s
  Roger G3XBM


  2009/10/24 Clemens Paul <cpaul@gmx.net>

    Roger,

    what is your exact dial qrg?
    Are you on air at present?
    I'll watch out for your signal.

    73
    Clemens
    DL4RAJ
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Roger Lapthorn
      To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
      Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 5:55 PM
      Subject: LF: 500kHz 1mW WSPR beaconing


      This will be active periodically over the weekend. It would be nice to get a few new 
reporters spotting me.

      73s
      Roger G3XBM

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Roger,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>this message came too late for me (al=
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sleeping). :-)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At which time will you run your beaco=
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evening?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It seems that around 22.00UTC signals=
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500kHz are peaking here.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73<BR>Clemens<BR>DL4RAJ</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV     style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color:=
 black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Drogerlapthorn@gmail.com href=3D"mailto:rogerlapthorn@gmai=
l.com">Roger=20
  Lapthorn</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@=
blacksheep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_l=
f_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, October 24,=
 2009 10:50=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Re: 500kHz=
 1mW WSPR=20
  beaconing</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Clemens (et al),<BR><BR>Just restarted the 500kHz WSP=
R beacon=20
  (have been out for a few hours) on 0.503910 +/-20Hz.<BR><BR>73s<BR>R=
oger=20
  G3XBM<BR><BR>
  <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>2009/10/24 Clemens Paul <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&lt=
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Roger,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>what is your exact dial qrg?</FON=
T></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Are you on air at present?</FONT>=
</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll watch out for your signal.</=
FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73<BR>Clemens<BR>DL4RAJ</FONT></D=
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      <A title=3Drogerlapthorn@gmail.com href=3D"mailto:rogerlapthorn@=
gmail.com"         target=3D_blank>Roger Lapthorn</A> </DIV>
      <DIV         style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none;=
 font-stretch: normal"><B>To:</B>=20
      <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org         href=3D"mailto:r=
sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org"         target=3D_blank>rsgb_lf_group@bla=
cksheep.org</A> </DIV>
      <DIV         style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none;=
 font-stretch: normal"><B>Sent:</B>=20
      Saturday, October 24, 2009 5:55 PM</DIV>
      <DIV         style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none;=
 font-stretch: normal"><B>Subject:</B>=20
      LF: 500kHz 1mW WSPR beaconing</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>This will be active periodically over the weekend=
. It would=20
      be nice to get a few new reporters spotting me.<BR><BR>73s<BR>Ro=
ger=20
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Dear LF

This weekend is last day activity Special Event HF70W.
Operation in QRSS will start from 20:00 UTC on the Friday evening on=
 137.700kHz and 137,778kHz. Naxt activity will be evening and night sa=
turaday/sunday.
Vy 73!
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This weekend is last day activity Spe=
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Walter   .. there is a  description :- =20

http://www.w1hkj.com/FldigiHelp/Modes/THROBdesc.htm

G ..



From: Walter und Marianne Staubach=20
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 8:48 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


Dear Graham,
    at first thanks for the first short description. Found the "packet=
s" on the grabber. What does the abbreviation "Throb" mean and where=
 can one find a description?
73   Walter DJ2LF / DI2AG

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Graham=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 7:54 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: Re: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


  Ok Walter=20

  Well that is a good  question ! ...=20

  Its a  narrow  band  data  mode that  uses a combination of   multi=
  tones and  amplitude modulation .. the  tones relay the  data  and=
 the  amplitude modulation  provides the  syn-pulse .. so  every chara=
cter   has its ''own sync pulse''  so the  system has no  'lock up or=
  sync time'' =20

  I am using  FLDIGI  as the  tx software .........  you  need to be=
 very  close on frequency to decode=20

  Tnx - G ..


  From: Walter und Marianne Staubach=20
  Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:34 PM
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Subject: LF: Re: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


  Please help, Graham - what is THROB-2?
  73
  Walter DJ2LF / DI2AG

    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Graham=20
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
    Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:28 PM
    Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


    Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency=20

    TX set  502.000 USB
    Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency=20

    Repeat time 60  seconds =20

    RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'  time=20

    Reports / observations  =20

    Tnx  Graham

    G0NBD - IO83LK =20





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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Walter&nbsp;&nbsp; .. there is a&nbsp=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><A   title=3D"http://www.w1hkj.com/Fl=
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=3D"http://www.w1hkj.com/FldigiHelp/Modes/THROBdesc.htm">http://www.w1=
hkj.com/FldigiHelp/Modes/THROBdesc.htm</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G ..</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:wum=
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o:wum.staubach@t-online.de">Walter und Marianne Staubach</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 27, 2009 8:48 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&#10;=
CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=
.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Dear Graham,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; at first thanks fo=
r the first=20
short description. Found the "packets" on the grabber. What does the=
=20
abbreviation "Throb" mean and where can one find a description?</FONT>=
</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73&nbsp;&nbsp; Walter DJ2LF / DI2AG</=
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@=
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Ok Walter </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Well that is a good&nbsp; question=
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Its a&nbsp; narrow&nbsp; band&nbsp;=
 data&nbsp;=20
  mode that&nbsp; uses a combination of&nbsp;&nbsp; multi&nbsp; tones=
 and&nbsp;=20
  amplitude modulation .. the&nbsp; tones relay the&nbsp; data&nbsp;=
 and=20
  the&nbsp; amplitude modulation&nbsp; provides the&nbsp; syn-pulse ..=
 so&nbsp;=20
  every character&nbsp;&nbsp; has its ''own sync pulse''&nbsp; so the&=
nbsp;=20
  system has no&nbsp; 'lock up or&nbsp; sync time''&nbsp; </FONT></DIV=
>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I am using&nbsp; FLDIGI&nbsp; as th=
e&nbsp; tx=20
  software .........&nbsp; you&nbsp; need to be very&nbsp; close on fr=
equency to=20
  decode </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx - G ..</FONT></DIV>
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h@t-online.de     href=3D"mailto:wum.staubach@t-online.de">Walter und=
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mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=
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  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: Throb -2- beacon 503.000 </DIV></DIV></=
DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Please help, Graham - what is=20
  THROB-2?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Walter DJ2LF / DI2AG</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 27,=
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Throb -2- beac=
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    </DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; THROB-2-&nbsp; Beac=
on&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    503.000 khz centre&nbsp; frequency </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>TX set&nbsp; 502.000 USB</FONT></=
DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Audio&nbsp; 1000 Hz cent frequenc=
y=20
</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Repeat time 60&nbsp; seconds&nbsp=
;=20
</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>RX&nbsp; 'ON'&nbsp; during cycle=
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    &nbsp;time </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Reports / observations&nbsp;&nbsp=
;=20
</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx&nbsp; Graham</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G0NBD - IO83LK=20
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capture at ~02.01z

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IK1HSS calling CQ at 137.750 QRSS3 1330z

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Hello John ,

I copy your beacon last night (00:00>01:30utc)

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj


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A BIT LESS!!!!! at least 50% less than a class D or E, which should yi=
eld 90% with a proper design.
G3KEV

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 4:18 PM
  Subject: LF: Thanks Brian


  OK Brian, thanks for the info. Yes, I realise the efficiency will be=
 a bit less. Seems different people have had quite different experienc=
es using AF techniques/ready made amps etc.
  Thanks, 73,
  Chris, G4AYT.


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A BIT LESS!!!!! at least 50% less tha=
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Hello Claude and all ,

I think that you want to say  22:15 UTC !
Attention , at this hour will be the sunrise in China !

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

claude Berthebaud a =E9crit :
> Good Morning LF
> The BOJ Beacon 137776.2hz Qrss60 is open from 10:15 UT=20
> good night all=20
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I had the same problem on 500 up in KL7 at home. I ended up moving the mod=
em to the garage where the telephone line comes out of the ground and keep=
ing the ADSL loaded wiring as short as possible -  then on the telephone=
 side of the router  I connected up a pair of reasonable quality of seried=
 ADSL filters outbound for normal telephone wiring in the house. From 20=
 over noise I cant "see it" now as the big antennae has been chocked off.=
 I only use wireless around the property so it wasnt an issue.

=20

Next job is to choke off the noise from the AC power line coming out of th=
e ground - its awful.

=20

relates to MTA Palmer Alaska solutions ADSL


=20

Laurence KL 1 X
=20
> From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:10:53 +0100
> Subject: Re: LF: MOFMT ADSL noise
>=20
> Dear Pete, Paul-Henrik,
>=20
> M0FMT wrote:
> ....> Well I can only conclude it is ADSL because it is just raising the=
=20
> noise floor it is very subtle not really identifiable like say TV LTB,=
 it's=20
> a mush...>
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> I have problems with ADSL on 500kHz at my QTH - it sounds like "white no=
ise"=20
> with no audible distinctive features I can detect. The noise can be abou=
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> 10 - 20dB over the band noise here over a fairly wide bandwidth in the=
 MF=20
> range. It does not seem to be a problem at 136k, perhaps because this is=
 in=20
> the guard band between upstream and downstream ADSL signals. It is easy=
 to=20
> tell if you are experiencing noise from your own ADSL connection -=20
> disconnect the incoming phone line (probably just unplugging the modem=
 from=20
> the phone socket will be enough) and there will be a reduction in noise=
=20
> level. Unfortunately, there also seems to be a significant level of simi=
lar=20
> noise here from other sources, probably my neighbors' ADSL via the overh=
ead=20
> phone lines.
>=20
> I have had some success with a noise-cancelling arrangement here, where=
 the=20
> ADSL noise is sampled using a current transformer made by passing the=20
> incoming phone line through a ferrite core, and summed with the signal=
 from=20
> loop antennas via a variable phase-shifting and gain-adjusting network,=
=20
> which is adjusted for a null in the noise. Also, moving the loop around=
 the=20
> QTH shows some positions are better than others. Actually, life is a bit=
=20
> more complicated at this particular QTH, since there also seems to be=20
> wide-band noise originating as very low-level sidebands from the local=
=20
> broadcast stations. This requires a second noise-cancelling network to=
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> noise from that direction. Also, it was necessary to insert a relay in=
=20
> series with the loading coil to disconnect the TX antenna on receive,=20
> otherwise this coupled more noise into the receiving antennas. But when=
 it=20
> is all adjusted properly, the overall noise level can be reduced in=20
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I had the same problem on 500 up in KL7 at home. I ended up moving the&nbs=
p;modem to the garage where the telephone line comes out of the ground and=
 keeping the ADSL loaded wiring as short as possible - &nbsp;then on the=
 telephone side of the router&nbsp;&nbsp;I connected up a pair of reasonab=
le quality of seried ADSL filters&nbsp;outbound for normal telephone wirin=
g&nbsp;in the house. From 20 over noise I cant "see&nbsp;it"&nbsp;now as=
 the big antennae has been chocked off. I only use wireless around the pro=
perty so it wasnt an issue.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Next job is to choke off the noise from the AC power line coming out of th=
e ground - its awful.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
relates to MTA Palmer Alaska solutions ADSL<BR><BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence KL 1 X<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&gt; From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com<BR>&g=
t; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>&gt; Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:10:5=
3 +0100<BR>&gt; Subject: Re: LF: MOFMT ADSL noise<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Dear Pe=
te, Paul-Henrik,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; M0FMT wrote:<BR>&gt; ....&gt; Well I can=
 only conclude it is ADSL because it is just raising the <BR>&gt; noise fl=
oor it is very subtle not really identifiable like say TV LTB, it's <BR>&g=
t; a mush...&gt;<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I have problems with ADSL on 500kHz at=
 my QTH - it sounds like "white noise" <BR>&gt; with no audible distinctiv=
e features I can detect. The noise can be about <BR>&gt; 10 - 20dB over th=
e band noise here over a fairly wide bandwidth in the MF <BR>&gt; range.=
 It does not seem to be a problem at 136k, perhaps because this is in <BR>=
&gt; the guard band between upstream and downstream ADSL signals. It is ea=
sy to <BR>&gt; tell if you are experiencing noise from your own ADSL conne=
ction - <BR>&gt; disconnect the incoming phone line (probably just unplugg=
ing the modem from <BR>&gt; the phone socket will be enough) and there wil=
l be a reduction in noise <BR>&gt; level. Unfortunately, there also seems=
 to be a significant level of similar <BR>&gt; noise here from other sourc=
es, probably my neighbors' ADSL via the overhead <BR>&gt; phone lines.<BR>=
&gt; <BR>&gt; I have had some success with a noise-cancelling arrangement=
 here, where the <BR>&gt; ADSL noise is sampled using a current transforme=
r made by passing the <BR>&gt; incoming phone line through a ferrite core,=
 and summed with the signal from <BR>&gt; loop antennas via a variable pha=
se-shifting and gain-adjusting network, <BR>&gt; which is adjusted for a=
 null in the noise. Also, moving the loop around the <BR>&gt; QTH shows so=
me positions are better than others. Actually, life is a bit <BR>&gt; more=
 complicated at this particular QTH, since there also seems to be <BR>&gt;=
 wide-band noise originating as very low-level sidebands from the local <B=
R>&gt; broadcast stations. This requires a second noise-cancelling network=
 to null <BR>&gt; noise from that direction. Also, it was necessary to ins=
ert a relay in <BR>&gt; series with the loading coil to disconnect the TX=
 antenna on receive, <BR>&gt; otherwise this coupled more noise into the=
 receiving antennas. But when it <BR>&gt; is all adjusted properly, the ov=
erall noise level can be reduced in <BR>&gt; favourable directions by abou=
t 20dB, which is worth doing.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Cheers, Jim Moritz<BR>&gt;=
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Thanks Gerhard ,

What is your opinion of the  signal strength / quality ....compared to=
 the  recovery of the text .... ??

THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTIN=
G



From: Beckmann, Gerhard=20
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:32 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Cc: 'Graham'=20
Subject: LF: AW: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


Hello Graham,

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now first "lines of code"  (hi).

Condx seem to increase now (hopefully.)

=20

THE 1UICK BROWN FOX JUMP7D OVER EHE LAZEY M63NA91K247.6788 G0NBD TESTI=
NG

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Best 73 de Gerhard  //  DK6NI

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Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Oktober 2009 18:28
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20

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Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency=20

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TX set  502.000 USB

Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency=20

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Repeat time 60  seconds =20

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RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'  time=20

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Tnx  Graham

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G0NBD - IO83LK =20

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks Gerhard ,</FONT></DIV>
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to increase now (hopefully=85)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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GHT: bold"   lang=3DEN-GB>THE 1UICK BROWN FOX JUMP7D OVER EHE LAZEY M6=
3NA91K247.6788 G0NBD=20
TESTING<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></B></P>
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Gerhard&nbsp; //&nbsp; DK6NI<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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an"><SPAN   style=3D"COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"   lang=3DEN-GB><o:p=
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><SPAN   style=3D"=
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homa; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A   href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacks=
heep.org">owner-<st1:PersonName   title=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@=
blacksheep.org&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"   w:st=3D"on">rsgb_lf_=
group@blacksheep.org</A></st1:PersonName>=20
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rg</st1:PersonName>] <B><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Im Auftrag=
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det:</SPAN></B> Dienstag, 27. Oktober 2009=20
18:28<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">An:</SPAN></B> <st1:Pers=
onName   w:st=3D"on"><A   href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org"=
>rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A></st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN   style=
=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Betreff:</SPAN></B> LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.00=
0=20
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<DIV>
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-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Running&nbsp; THROB-2-&nbsp;=20
Beacon&nbsp;&nbsp; 503.000 khz centre&nbsp; frequency=20
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN  =
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">TX set&nbsp; 502.000=20
USB</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Audio&nbsp; 1000 Hz cent frequency=20
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN  =
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Repeat time 60&nbsp; seconds&nbsp;=20
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN  =
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">RX&nbsp; 'ON'&nbsp; during cycle tx=
=20
'off' &nbsp;time </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN  =
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Reports / observations&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN  =
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Tnx&nbsp;=20
Graham</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN  =
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN   style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">G0NBD - IO83LK=20
</SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3   fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P>
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I always thought amateur radio was about 2 x WAY COMMUNICATION ie QSO MODE, 
otherwise it is BROADCAST and SWL mode.
This is a strange  OBSERVATION
G3KEV

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>
> mal hamilton wrote:
>> Try QSO mode. Beacons only generate QRM for QSO operators.
>
> And vice versa...
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Increased the ERP on my (still QRPp) WSPR beacon by around 10dB (PA changes
only so far) so would welcome reports. Already G7NKS is reporting me up to
10dB stronger, which is encouraging.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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Increased the ERP on my (still QRPp) WSPR beacon by around 10dB (PA change=
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Andrey
I can not see any problem my signal is vy clear and strong on ur GRABBER 
tonite
tnx de mal/g3kev

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Subject: LF: Re: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz


> Mal,
> Your signal here is almost in the centre of a spectrum of powerful 
> broadband SVC-station.
> It is a pity that you do not have possibility to replace frequency...
>
> 73 Andrey
>
>
>> Andrey can see my sig solid copy on ur GRABBER
>> TNX MAL
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:36 PM
>> Subject: LF: Re: Re: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz
>>
>>
>>> Hi Mal,
>>> I have already switched on the grabber on your frequency.
>>> The grabber will work on 500 khz to ~21z....
>>>
>>> In the night from 1.30 till 2.45 observed someone's wspr-signals on
>>> 503850.
>>> The signals was not decoded.
>>>
>>> 73 Andrey
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Andrey
>>>> Pse look at 502.57 starting at 1800 utc CW and QRS3
>>>> De mal/g3kev
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
>>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 6:45 PM
>>>> Subject: LF: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hello LF'ers,
>>>>> QRV RCV today WSPR-beacons on 500 kHz (503850+/-) till the morning.
>>>>> Also QRSS3 above frequency 502.350. If someone is going to work in
>>>>> QRSS3-mode,
>>>>> please inform your frequency.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73 Andrey
>
>


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Many thanx dear Chris for this new QSO with you.
Have a nice day at BIGGLESWADE
 
 
 
F4DTL  Nicolas JN18FP

TX:  350W  4x IRF450 + DDS pilot
Ant: 10m  vertical

RX :  Icom IC7400
Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010 or miniwhip

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Hello Warren,LF
I recieved five strings XG from 0:45 till 05:45 local time.
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello Warren,LF</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I recieved five strings XG from 0:45 till 05:45 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het 
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Gary - G4WGT wrote:

>
>
> IN VIEW OF THE PROBLEMS STEVE IS HAVING WITH MY GRABBER, WILL OTHERS 
> PLEASE TRY IT & REPORT IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT.

Hello Gary, LF Group
all links you've listed work perfectly - no problems at all.
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Good evening all
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Thanks to  G3KEV we managed to  have 'one'  qso this afternoon, , , go=
od  579 on the  call .=20

Unfortunately due to slightly humorous situation, depending on your =
 point of view, we no longer have the  long wire and are now  transmit=
ting on the 600 ft delta loop  which originally  provide the rx . at=
 the  moment rx is a 10 mtr  whip ae , not  making  too bad a  job of=
 the  504  carrier but  sill no way as good as the  loop .

Apologies to  Finbar and  GM3BST , who apparently  called  , but  we=
 did not copy (when?), thanks to  Gary for the the off air capture,=20
If any one  did copy  our  cq's  round  4 to  6  local time this  afte=
rnoon , did  you notice the  signal level  compared to the  last time=
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the  station was  operational ??=20

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks to&nbsp; G3KEV we managed to&n=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Unfortunately due to slightly humorou=
s situation,=20
depending on your&nbsp; point of view, we no longer have the&nbsp; lon=
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ally&nbsp;=20
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no way as good as the&nbsp; loop .</FONT></DIV>
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apparently&nbsp; called&nbsp;&nbsp;, but&nbsp; we did not copy (when?)=
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did&nbsp; you notice the&nbsp; signal level&nbsp; compared to&nbsp;the=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>the&nbsp; station was&nbsp; operation=
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Thank you Paul=20

I have  just  changed the  text to  2 lines the  same=20

tnx - G ..=20

THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTIN=
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THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTIN=
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From: Clemens Paul=20
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 10:13 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: Re: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


Hi Graham,

100% copy here.

TQUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZEY MOON 0123456789 G0NBD TESTING
 .L.NKC3T H5

SNR was 6dB as indicated by FLDIGI-SW.


73
Clemens
DL4RAJ

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Graham=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:28 PM
  Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


  Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency=20

  TX set  502.000 USB
  Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency=20

  Repeat time 60  seconds =20

  RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'  time=20

  Reports / observations  =20

  Tnx  Graham

  G0NBD - IO83LK =20





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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thank you Paul </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dcpaul@gmx.net=
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 27, 2009 10:13 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Hi Graham,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>100% copy here.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>TQUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZE=
Y MOON=20
0123456789 G0NBD TESTING<BR>&nbsp;.L.NKC3T H5</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>SNR was 6dB as indicated by FLDIGI-SW=
.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73<BR>Clemens<BR>DL4RAJ</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; THROB-2-&nbsp; Beacon=
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>TX set&nbsp; 502.000 USB</FONT></DI=
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>RX&nbsp; 'ON'&nbsp; during cycle tx=
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Reports / observations&nbsp;&nbsp;=
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx&nbsp; Graham</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G0NBD - IO83LK </FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><=
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Clemens (et al),

Just restarted the 500kHz WSPR beacon (have been out for a few hours) on
0.503910 +/-20Hz.

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/10/24 Clemens Paul <cpaul@gmx.net>

>  Roger,
>
> what is your exact dial qrg?
> Are you on air at present?
> I'll watch out for your signal.
>
> 73
> Clemens
> DL4RAJ
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>
> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 24, 2009 5:55 PM
> *Subject:* LF: 500kHz 1mW WSPR beaconing
>
> This will be active periodically over the weekend. It would be nice to get
> a few new reporters spotting me.
>
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM
>
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Clemens (et al),<br><br>Just restarted the 500kHz WSPR beacon (have been=
 out for a few hours) on 0.503910 +/-20Hz.<br><br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br><b=
r><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/24 Clemens Paul <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:cpaul@gmx.net">cpaul@gmx.net</a>&gt;</span><br>
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<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Roger,</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">what is your exact dial qrg?</font></=
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<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Are you on air at present?</font></di=
v>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">I&#39;ll watch out for your signal.</=
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<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">73<br>Clemens<br>DL4RAJ</font></div>
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<b>From:</b>=20
  <a title=3D"rogerlapthorn@gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:rogerlapthorn@gmail.=
com" target=3D"_blank">Roger=20
  Lapthorn</a> </div>
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From: Graham=20
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:28 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency=20

TX set  502.000 USB
Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency=20

Repeat time 60  seconds =20

RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'  time=20

Reports / observations  =20

Tnx  Graham

G0NBD - IO83LK =20





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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20
Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.34/2462 - Release Date: 10/2=
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:g8f=
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:28 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&#10;=
CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000 </DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; THROB-2-&nbsp; Beacon&n=
bsp;&nbsp;=20
503.000 khz centre&nbsp; frequency </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>TX set&nbsp; 502.000 USB</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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&nbsp;time </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Reports / observations&nbsp;&nbsp; </=
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx&nbsp; Graham</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G0NBD - IO83LK </FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><BR=
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Hi,


> Looks like some electrical storms in western Europe causing
> almost total wipe-out of the grabbers here.

> Also lots of loud static crashes on 136kHz.

Have a look at http://www.blitzortung.org/Webpages/index.php


--=20
vy 73 + gd DX,

Michael


RX: ICOM R75, SDR-IQ, Perseus
Antenna: Wellbrook ALA 1530, Mini-Whip
Location: Roschbach, Germany N 49=B015' E 8=B007' / Locator JN49BF

ENDBH & NANDBH editor

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Hello LF Group!
The International Radio Regulations ("The Bible of
Radio Communications") define ERP as follows:
(1.162) -- effective radiated power (e.r.p.) in a given direction:
The product of the power supplied to the antenna and its gain
relative to a half-wave dipole in a given direction.
When applying for my permission I suggested the use of the
term EMRP which has the reference to a short vertical
monopole antenna. Unfortunately the PTT-people did not
know that term, so my limit became 20 Watts ERP!
It seems to me that there might be a difference of 2.6 dB
between these two definitions. But really not worth
bothering. Let us continue estimating and guessing!
73
Niels/OZ8NJ+
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The International Radio Regulations=
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and its gain</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>When applying for my permission I sug=
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vertical</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>monopole antenna. Unfortunately the=
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not</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>know that term, so my limit&nbsp;beca=
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ERP!</FONT></DIV>
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Hi LF,
Had to close Tx down, just developed an intermittent SWR problem, probably
antenna connection down the garden. Tx is OK into dummy load. I will have to
investigate tomorrow.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.


2009/10/14 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

> Hi All LF.
> Testing again tonight.
>
> 503.600kHz - QRS3 - CW ID - 5 minute intervals - 3 watts ERP.
>
> Reports welcome.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.
>
>

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Hi LF,<div><br></div><div>Had to close Tx down, just developed an intermit=
tent SWR problem, probably antenna connection down the garden. Tx is OK in=
to dummy load. I will have to investigate tomorrow.</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>
73</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.</div><div><br><br><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/14 Gary - G4WGT <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk">g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk</a>&gt;</span><br><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px=
 #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Hi All LF.<div><br></div><div>Testing again tonight.</div><div><br></div><=
div>503.600kHz - QRS3 - CW ID - 5 minute intervals - 3 watts ERP.</div><di=
v><br></div><div>Reports welcome.</div><div><br></div><div>73</div><div><b=
r>

</div><div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.=A0</div><div><br></div>
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Hi LF,
I have now changed the test transmission to QRS10, all the other conditions
are the same.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.

2009/10/8 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

> Hi LF,
> I am testing a new 137kHz loading coil & modified matching transformer
> tonight.
>
> Frequency 137.710kHz - QRS03 - 10 minute intervals.
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> Reports welcome.
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Hi LF,<div><br></div><div>I have now changed the test transmission to QRS10, all the other conditions are the same.</div><div><br></div><div>73</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
2009/10/8 Gary - G4WGT <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk">g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Hi LF,<div><br></div><div>I am testing a new 137kHz loading coil &amp; modified matching transformer tonight.</div><div><br></div><div>Frequency 137.710kHz - QRS03 - 10 minute intervals.</div><div><br></div><div>Reports welcome.</div>

<div><br></div><font color="#888888"><div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.</div>
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Hello Marcin, LF!
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Hi all:

I'm looking between 137.650 to 137.805 KHz any QRSS speed.
Is anyone xmit-ing on a certain frequency ?

73; hope to see you !!


Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 185.29893 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
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Subject: LF: 500khz wspr in Nova Scotia tonight
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So far I have

       2009-10-30 22:50   M0BMU   0.503950   -29   0   IO91vr   +33   1.995   VE1VDM   FN85   4526   2812  
       2009-10-30 22:38   M0BMU   0.503950   -26   0   IO91vr   +33   1.995   VE1VDM   FN85   4526   2812  
       2009-10-30 22:30   M0BMU   0.503950   -25   0   IO91vr   +33   1.995   VE1VDM   FN85   4526   2812  
       2009-10-30 22:20   M0BMU   0.503950   -25   0   IO91vr   +23   0.200   VE1VDM   FN85   4526   2812  
       2009-10-30 22:16   M0BMU   0.503950   -28   0   IO91vr   +23   0.200   VE1VDM   FN85   4526   2812  
       2009-10-30 22:08   M0BMU   0.503950   -26   0   IO91vr   +23   0.200   VE1VDM   FN85   4526 


Vernon

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Dear friends, many many thanks for the lot of reports last night, most=
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DI2AG is again transmitting now until tomorrow morning.
73  Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF

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hi John LF
Merci ...many thank's for repport...good evening..
Claude F8boj JN16WA
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Hi Mal,
I have already switched on the grabber on your frequency.
The grabber will work on 500 khz to ~21z....

In the night from 1.30 till 2.45 observed someone's wspr-signals on 503850.
The signals was not decoded.

73 Andrey


> Hi Andrey
> Pse look at 502.57 starting at 1800 utc CW and QRS3
> De mal/g3kev
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
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>> Hello LF'ers,
>> QRV RCV today WSPR-beacons on 500 kHz (503850+/-) till the morning.
>> Also QRSS3 above frequency 502.350. If someone is going to work in 
>> QRSS3-mode,
>> please inform your frequency.
>>
>> 73 Andrey

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I built a version of the PA0RDT mini-whip just using an MPF102 and 2N3904
and it did a quite credible job on 136 and 500kHz even using it in the
shack. It would be even better out in the clear away from the house noise
sources.

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/10/21 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

> Hi Horst, Jim, LF,
> Same here, I have used a PA0RDT Mini-Whip active antenna for a good whil=
e
> now & it's performance is very good right down to 10kHz, may even go low=
er
> if I knew what to look for !!!
>
> My online grabbers use the Mini-Whip antenna.
>
> 73,
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
> 2009/10/21 James Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.net>
>
> Hi Horst
>>
>> I've just installed one of Roelof Bakker's (PA0RDT) active mini whips=
 and
>> it
>> is excellent at my QTH.  Just my view, others may have different
>> experiences
>>
>> With best regards
>>
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Horst St=F6cke=
r
>> Sent: 21 October 2009 17:26
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> Subject: LF: Best receiving antenna wanted
>>
>> Hello,
>> now that I am happy with my selectiv level meter Praecitronic MV-62 I=
 am
>> looking for the best receicing antenna.
>> Especially I am interested in 400khz, 136kHz, 72kHz and below 22 kHz.=
 With
>> my 40m longwire reception is not good enough and with a frame antenna=
 of
>> 900m copper wire it was disappointing, too..
>> I think, an active antenna for 0 to 500 MHz would be the best for me -=
 but
>> I
>> am looking forward to any other idea.
>> vy73 Horst DO1KHS
>> _______________________________________________________________
>> Neu: WEB.DE DSL bis 50.000 kBit/s und 200,- Euro Startguthaben!
>> http://produkte.web.de/go/02/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>


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I built a version of the PA0RDT mini-whip just using an MPF102 and 2N3904=
 and it did a quite credible job on 136 and 500kHz even using it in the sh=
ack. It would be even better out in the clear away from the house noise so=
urces.<br>
<br>73s <br>Roger G3XBM <br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/21 Gary=
 - G4WGT <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk">g4wg=
t@tiscali.co.uk</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;=
 padding-left: 1ex;">
Hi Horst, Jim, LF,<div><br></div><div>Same here, I have used a PA0RDT Mini=
-Whip active antenna for a good while now &amp; it&#39;s performance is ve=
ry good right down to 10kHz, may even go lower if I knew what to look for=
 !!!</div>

<div><br></div><div>My online grabbers use the Mini-Whip antenna.</div><di=
v><br></div><div>73,</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT.<br><br><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/21 James Cowburn <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:james.cowburn@virgin.net" target=3D"_blank">james.cowburn@virgi=
n.net</a>&gt;</span><div>
<div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hi Horst<br>
<br>
I&#39;ve just installed one of Roelof Bakker&#39;s (PA0RDT) active mini wh=
ips and it<br>
is excellent at my QTH. =A0Just my view, others may have different experie=
nces<br>
<br>
With best regards<br>
<br>
<br>
Jim<br>
<br>
<br>
Dr. James Cowburn G7NKS<br>
<br>
<br>
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nk">owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a><br>
[mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_b=
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Subject: LF: Best receiving antenna wanted<br>
<br>
Hello,<br>
now that I am happy with my selectiv level meter Praecitronic MV-62 I am<b=
r>
looking for the best receicing antenna.<br>
Especially I am interested in 400khz, 136kHz, 72kHz and below 22 kHz. With=
<br>
my 40m longwire reception is not good enough and with a frame antenna of<b=
r>
900m copper wire it was disappointing, too..<br>
I think, an active antenna for 0 to 500 MHz would be the best for me - but=
 I<br>
am looking forward to any other idea.<br>
vy73 Horst DO1KHS<br>
_______________________________________________________________<br>
Neu: <a href=3D"http://WEB.DE" target=3D"_blank">WEB.DE</a> DSL bis 50.000=
 kBit/s und 200,- Euro Startguthaben!<br>
<a href=3D"http://produkte.web.de/go/02/" target=3D"_blank">http://produkt=
e.web.de/go/02/</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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Dear Markus, Rik,

I think Rik's description is a variant of Markus' method - both using the 
principle of reciprocity to evaluate the properties of a transmitting 
antenna by measuring the received signal level produced by a known field 
strength. So this is indeed a third method.

It is interesting that this does not actually require the field strength to 
be measured in order to get the effective height/radiation 
resistance/efficiency - just the ratio between the TX antenna output level 
and the measuring antenna output level. However, to get the ERP when 
actually transmitting, an absolute measurement of antenna current or TX 
power would be needed.

So in summary, methods to determine ERP:

Method 1 - requires "calibrated" TX antenna (i.e. antenna effective 
height/radiation resistance calculated from dimensions), with calibrated 
antenna current measurement (or power and impedance).
Simplest in terms of equipment needed and measurement , but least reliable 
because environmental losses only partly included.

Method 2 - requires calibrated receive antenna (loop) and calibrated 
measuring receiver to measure receive antenna output voltage/power etc.
Most difficult to do due to equipment needed and (multiple) far-field FS 
measurements. Includes effect of environmental losses. Requires no knowledge 
of transmitter/antenna, apart from where it is - most useful for Ofcom/FCC 
etc.

Method 3 - requires calibrated receive antenna (loop) and calibrated antenna 
current (power/impedance etc.) measurement, plus ratio of received signal 
levels.
Intermediate equipment requirement (Also a suitable signal is required, e.g. 
DCF39). Includes effect of environmental losses.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
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Hi Gary, LF!

One mistake into links:
>>Roman, RN3AGC in Moscow - Locator: KO85SV

RN3AGC is not Roman -) Roman it's me, RW3ADB)
His name is Andrey.

>>Alternates between 136 & 500 KHz.

Both grabbers in Moscow are switched between 136 and 500 because we use 
only one FT897D at each location.

>>http://www.cln.ru/~efremov/grabber.html
This is old link to the old Andrey's site. He is closed now.
New link to the grabber: http://rn3agc.msk.ru/grabber1.shtml
New RN3AGC site: http://rn3agc.msk.ru/index.shtml

My site is http://qrss.nm.ru/
Grabber: http://qrss.nm.ru/grabber.html

* Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> [Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:30:47 +0100]:
> Hi All,
>
> See the WSPR addition to G4WGT grabber list on UK500KHZ Group.
>
> Click on http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers
> - or copy & paste it into your browser's address bar if that doesn't
> work.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT.

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Jean - Pierre I agree and the timings coincide, but in any case Ill leave=
 the China grabber on 137.775/781 window tonight (12th) at dot 60 if anyon=
e wants to shove some RF out my way Id be delighted to listen/view.

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Im down on processing power at the moment so wont be able to run 500Khz in=
 parallel till I sort out my boot.ini on my other dell PC, and this is som=
ewhat restricting my Loran listening too.

=20

LF/MF Conditions were very quiet last night but I didnt hear Ankara TTY.=
 DCF77/HBG were good and clear too.

=20

Murky Sun down here on the East Coast of China is appx 0936 thru 2218Z

=20

Laurence G4 DMA in BY3A Teda Tianjin  OM89UA

KL 1 X

=20

Alaska grabber http://kl1x.com/dx00000.jpg (sitting on 30m at the moment=
 I think)

China grabber http://kl1x.com/2dx00000.jpg

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=20


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> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 09:36:11 +0200
> From: jpm.f1afj@online.fr
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: 137.7761 and a bit
>=20
> Hello Laurence, Claude, John,
>=20
> With my opinion I think that it is the signal of Claude F8BOJ
> Perhaps could you see with the synchro with the hour !
> the files of my grabber for comparison are at :
> http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
> I looked at the capture of Laurence, it seems that it is the end of the=
=20
> =93J=94 of Claude .
>=20
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre F1AFJ
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Jean - Pierre I agree and the timings coincide, but in any case&nbsp;Ill=
 leave the China grabber on 137.775/781 window tonight (12th)&nbsp;at dot=
 60 if anyone wants to shove some RF out my way Id be delighted to listen/=
view.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Im down on processing power at the moment so wont be able to run 500Khz in=
 parallel till I sort out my boot.ini on my other dell PC, and this is som=
ewhat restricting my Loran listening too.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
LF/MF Conditions were very quiet last night but I didnt hear Ankara TTY.=
 DCF77/HBG were good and clear too.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Murky Sun down here on the East Coast of China is appx 0936 thru 2218Z<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Laurence G4 DMA in BY3A&nbsp;Teda Tianjin &nbsp;OM89UA<BR>
KL 1 X<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Alaska grabber <A href=3D"http://kl1x.com/dx00000.jpg">http://kl1x.com/dx0=
0000.jpg</A>&nbsp;(sitting on 30m at the moment I think)<BR>
China grabber <A href=3D"http://kl1x.com/2dx00000.jpg">http://kl1x.com/2dx=
00000.jpg</A><BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
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<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&gt; Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 09:36:11 +0200<BR>&gt; From: jpm=
.f1afj@online.fr<BR>&gt; To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>&gt; Subject:=
 Re: LF: 137.7761 and a bit<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Hello Laurence, Claude, John,=
<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; With my opinion I think that it is the signal of Claude=
 F8BOJ<BR>&gt; Perhaps could you see with the synchro with the hour !<BR>&=
gt; the files of my grabber for comparison are at :<BR>&gt; http://jpmere.=
online.fr/LF/<BR>&gt; I looked at the capture of Laurence, it seems that=
 it is the end of the <BR>&gt; =93J=94 of Claude .<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; 73 qro=
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Hi Warren and ALL,
Capture XGJ
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
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XGJ 11-10.jpg

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Warren and ALL,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Capture XGJ</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het 
volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:<BR>XGJ 
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Roger Lapthorn wrote:
> This evening and overnight I shall be running my little 500kHz WSPR beacon
> in its "original" state (ERP around 6uW) before I start mods to the TX and
> the antenna, hopefully resulting in stronger signals.

I'm game for a try, looking now and will leave it running overnight. 
Already got G7NKS!

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QSL Tim.
tnx de mal/g3kev

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> mal hamilton wrote:
>> Nw QRV 502.57 CW AND QRS3 QSX 7033 FOR DX
>> MALG3KEV
>>
> Copying your QRS3 on 500kHz Mal, 579, sent you a report on 7MHz, don't
> know if you got it.
>
> Tim M0AFJ IO92OB
>


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Hi John ,
Yes it is a strange signal ! I do not see what that can be . Between=20
Markus and me there is more than 800 km , therefore this signal was very=
=20
powerful ! .....
73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

John Andrews a =E9crit :
> Jean-Pierre,
>
> Thanks for the report.
>
> I was watching the F1AFJ and DF6NM grabbers tonight in the 0100-0200=20
> UTC period. There was an interesting signal that swept through both=20
> screens... certainly not a local QRP event to appear at both=20
> locations. See:
>
> http://www.w1tag.com/files/F1AFJ.jpg
> http://www.w1tag.com/files/DF6NM.jpg
>
> John, W1TAG
>
> Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ) wrote:
>> Hello John ,
>>
>> I copy your beacon last night (00:00>01:30utc)
>>
>> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>>
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Tnx info Andrey
At present xtal only on 502.57 will get a vfo ctl soon. Tonite will TX at 
1700 utc pse switch GRABBER on early.
tnx de mal/g3kev

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> Mal,
> More or less freely here: 500.0-502.3 and 503.1-504.0.
> But also here in some places there are bad-lines.
> Inform me frequencies which you can establish.
> And I here will look, whether they are free.
>
> 73 Andrey
>
>
>
>> Andrey
>> What would be a good FREQ for reception on 500?
>> We could try earlier in the day
>> de mal/g3kev
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 8:26 PM
>> Subject: LF: Re: Re: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz
>>
>>
>>> Mal,
>>> If here there was no this svc-station, your qrss3-signal would be 
>>> visible
>>> also in the afternoon :)
>>> For certain.
>>>
>>> 73 Andrey
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Andrey
>>>> I can not see any problem my signal is vy clear and strong on ur 
>>>> GRABBER
>>>> tonite
>>>> tnx de mal/g3kev
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
>>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 7:56 PM
>>>> Subject: LF: Re: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Mal,
>>>>> Your signal here is almost in the centre of a spectrum of powerful
>>>>> broadband SVC-station.
>>>>> It is a pity that you do not have possibility to replace frequency...
>>>>>
>>>>> 73 Andrey
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Andrey can see my sig solid copy on ur GRABBER
>>>>>> TNX MAL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
>>>>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:36 PM
>>>>>> Subject: LF: Re: Re: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Mal,
>>>>>>> I have already switched on the grabber on your frequency.
>>>>>>> The grabber will work on 500 khz to ~21z....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the night from 1.30 till 2.45 observed someone's wspr-signals on
>>>>>>> 503850.
>>>>>>> The signals was not decoded.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 73 Andrey
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Andrey
>>>>>>>> Pse look at 502.57 starting at 1800 utc CW and QRS3
>>>>>>>> De mal/g3kev
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>> From: "Andrey rn3agc" <rn3agc@mail.ru>
>>>>>>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 6:45 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: LF: QRV RCV WSPR on 500 kHz
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello LF'ers,
>>>>>>>>> QRV RCV today WSPR-beacons on 500 kHz (503850+/-) till the 
>>>>>>>>> morning.
>>>>>>>>> Also QRSS3 above frequency 502.350. If someone is going to work in
>>>>>>>>> QRSS3-mode,
>>>>>>>>> please inform your frequency.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 73 Andrey
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
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>


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Hi Steve,
Well, I can't see any reason for the non-connect from my end, I will give
you my main web address & you can try from the links page (if you get in
that is) :-

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/

Also you could try from the links on the UK500KHZ group home page :-

http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz

You are correct regarding the operation of slow rate 24/7 signals, the
nearest to that are a few experimental EU stations a around 505.200kHz but
usually only using QRS03 or QRS10.

IN VIEW OF THE PROBLEMS STEVE IS HAVING WITH MY GRABBER, WILL OTHERS PLEASE
TRY IT & REPORT IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS.

73

Gary - G4WGT.





<http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz>



2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra.com>

>  G'day Gary,
>
> Sorry - still can't connect.   Perhaps someone else should try.
>
> Sorry to all for using the 'B' word - I of course meant MEPT....
>
> A bit of research makes me think there are no 24/7 QRSS30 or slower MEPTs
> operating on 500kc in the UK/EU - or at least none that I can find.
>
> My intent was to leave ARGO going overnight here (local time) each day(sic)
> for a period of time to see if, by some chance, I could see anything this
> far away.
>
> Yours grabber is 24/7, but unfortunately for some inexplicable reason I
> cannot see it currently.     In any case, I would still need a regular MEPT
> with long carrier bursts, and that appears not to be the case.
>
> Thanks for the help and info.
>
> 73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 06, 2009 12:55 AM
> *Subject:* Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers....
>
> Hi Steve,
> Although I have not been uploading captures today until now (1348utc) there
> is no problem with my site, it has been displaying a message "Grabber
> Temporary Off Line" as I do my PC maintenance on a Monday (hard disk
> backup's etc).
>
> You will find that some (maybe most) of the other grabbers are random but
> mine is 24/7.
>
> Here is the url again just in case :-
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html
>
>  <http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html>73
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.
>
> 2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra.com>
>
>>  G'day Gary,
>>
>> There currently seems to be a rend in the time-space continuum here down
>> under in VK-land....
>>
>> Apart from your site - for which I get a "can't connect".
>>
>> From the links on the Google site I get the following results.
>>
>> 1. GM4SLV - last grab Jan 2009.
>> 2. CT1DRP - last grab Nov 2008.
>> 3. Hartmut Wolff - last grab Nov 2008.
>> 4. GM4ISM - can't connect.
>> 5. DF6NM - last grab May 2008.
>> 6. RN3AGC - can't connect.
>>
>> The only one that works is the http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/ link.
>>
>> What am I missing ?
>>
>> 73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)
>>
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
>> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 05, 2009 8:28 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers....
>>
>>  Hi Steve,
>> A small list of grabbers on the UK500KHZ Group web site at :-
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers
>>
>> Also my own grabber page for the UK, EU & USA bands at :-
>>
>> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.
>>
>>  <http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers>
>>
>> 2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra.com>
>>
>>> G'day All,
>>>
>>> In an expression of extreme optimism I am interested in getting details
>>> of 500kc beacons (preferably QRSS30 and slower) in Europe.    To get
>>> real-time confirmation of on-air status I am also looking for relevant local
>>> grabbers for those beacons.
>>>
>>> 73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)
>>>
>>>
>>
>

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Hi Steve,<div><br></div><div>Well, I can&#39;t see any reason for the non-=
connect from my end, I will give you my main web address &amp; you can try=
 from the links page (if you get in that is) :-</div><div><br></div><div><=
a href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/">http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk=
/wgtaylor/</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>Also you could try from the links on the UK500KHZ grou=
p home page :-</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://groups.google.co=
m/group/uk500khz">http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz</a></div><div><b=
r>
</div><div>You are correct regarding the operation of slow rate 24/7 signa=
ls, the nearest to that are a few experimental EU stations a around 505.20=
0kHz but usually only using QRS03 or QRS10.</div><div><br></div><div>IN VI=
EW OF THE PROBLEMS STEVE IS HAVING WITH MY GRABBER, WILL OTHERS PLEASE TRY=
 IT &amp; REPORT IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS.</div>
<div><br></div><div>73</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT.</div><div><b=
r></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><=
a href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz"></a><br>
<div><br></div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:vk2zto@djirra.com" target=3D"_blank"=
>vk2zto@djirra.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">







<div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">G&#39;day Gary,</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Sorry - still can&#39;t connect.=A0=
=A0 Perhaps=20
someone else should try.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Sorry to all for using the &#39;B&#39=
; word - I of course=20
meant MEPT....</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">A bit of research makes me think ther=
e are no 24/7=20
QRSS30 or slower MEPTs operating on 500kc in the UK/EU=A0- or at least non=
e=20
that I can find.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">My intent was to leave ARGO going ove=
rnight here=20
(local time) each day(sic) for a period of time to see if, by some chance,=
 I=20
could see anything this far away.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Yours grabber is 24/7, but unfortunat=
ely for some=20
inexplicable reason I cannot see it currently.=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0In=20
any case,=A0I would still need a regular MEPT with long carrier bursts, an=
d=20
that appears not to be the case.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Thanks for the help and info.</font><=
/div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)</font></div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-left:#000000 2px solid;padding-left:5px;paddin=
g-right:0px;margin-left:5px;margin-right:0px" dir=3D"ltr">
  <div style=3D"font:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
  <div style=3D"font:10pt arial;background:#e4e4e4"><b>From:</b>=20
  <a title=3D"g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk" href=3D"mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk" tar=
get=3D"_blank">Gary -=20
  G4WGT</a> </div>
  <div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org" href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank"=
>rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>=20
  </div>
  <div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 06, 2009 12=
:55=20
  AM</div>
  <div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: LF: 500kc beacons and=
=20
  grabbers....</div>
  <div><br></div>Hi Steve,
  <div><br></div>
  <div>Although I have not been uploading captures today until now (1348ut=
c)=20
  there is no problem with my site, it has been displaying a message &quot=
;Grabber=20
  Temporary Off Line&quot; as I do my PC maintenance on a Monday (hard dis=
k backup&#39;s=20
  etc).</div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div>You will find that some (maybe most) of the other grabbers are rand=
om but=20
  mine is 24/7.</div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div>Here is the url again just in case :-</div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div><a href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html" targe=
t=3D"_blank">http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html</a></div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div><a href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html" targe=
t=3D"_blank"></a>73</div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.<br><br>
  <div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:vk2zto@djirra.com" target=3D"_blank">vk2zto@djirra.com</a>&gt;=
</span><br>
  <blockquote style=3D"border-left:#ccc 1px solid;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
;padding-left:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">
    <div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
    <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">G&#39;day Gary,</font></div>
    <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
    <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">There currently seems to be a ren=
d in the=20
    time-space continuum here down under in VK-land....</font></div>
    <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
    <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Apart from your site - for which=
 I get a &quot;can&#39;t=20
    connect&quot;.</font></div>
    <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
    <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">From the links on=A0the Google si=
te I get=20
    the following results.</font></div>
    <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
    <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">1. GM4SLV - last grab Jan 2009.</=
font></div>
    <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">2. CT1DRP - last grab Nov 2008.</=
font></div>
    <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">3. Hartmut Wolff - last grab Nov=
=20
    2008.</font></div>
    <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">4. GM4ISM - can&#39;t connect.</f=
ont></div>
    <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">5. DF6NM - last grab May 2008.</f=
ont></div>
    <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">6. RN3AGC - can&#39;t connect.</f=
ont></div>
    <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
    <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">The only one that works is the <a=
 href=3D"http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_bla=
nk"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Times New Roman">http://www.wireless.org.uk/g=
rab/</font></a>=A0link.</font></div>


    <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
    <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">What am I missing ?</font></div>
    <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
    <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)</font></d=
iv>
    <blockquote style=3D"border-left:#000000 2px solid;padding-left:5px;pa=
dding-right:0px;margin-left:5px;margin-right:0px" dir=3D"ltr">
      <div>
      <div style=3D"font:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
      <div style=3D"font:10pt arial;background:#e4e4e4"><b>From:</b> <a ti=
tle=3D"g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk" href=3D"mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk" target=3D"=
_blank">Gary - G4WGT</a> </div>
      <div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"rsgb_lf_group@=
blacksheep.org" href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_bl=
ank">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a> </div>
      <div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 05, 2009=
 8:28=20
      PM</div>
      <div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: LF: 500kc beacons=
 and=20
      grabbers....</div>
      <div><br></div></div>
      <div>
      <div></div>
      <div>Hi Steve,=20
      <div><br></div>
      <div>A small list of grabbers on the UK500KHZ Group web site at :-</=
div>
      <div><br></div>
      <div><a href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-=
grabbers" target=3D"_blank">http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/50=
0-khz-grabbers</a></div>
      <div><br></div>
      <div>Also my own grabber page for the UK, EU &amp; USA bands at :-</=
div>
      <div><br></div>
      <div><a href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html"=
 target=3D"_blank">http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html</a></=
div>
      <div><br></div>
      <div>73</div>
      <div><br></div>
      <div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.</div>
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      <div><a href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-=
grabbers" target=3D"_blank"></a><br><br>
      <div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
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&gt;</span><br>
      <blockquote style=3D"border-left:#ccc 1px solid;margin:0px 0px 0px=
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SS30=20
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ose=20
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Thanks Graham
=A0
Not a beacon but a call, computer generated. Locally we try to have a qso=
 weekdays at around 11:45 or at some time over the lunch hour and again la=
ter around 4:00 it=A0is a very loose sched with M0JXM Dennis and rarely M0=
KHW.Ken. =A0Rog GW3UEP listens some times whch is remarkable=A0and reports=
 by e-mail=A0because I can't hear him its my RX or location (adsl noise?)=
 that is poor but=A0we should be reciprical.
=A0
FYI the current rig is an xtal controlled=A0GW3UEP (ala UK500kHZ group) th=
is week run off a laptop PSU very approx 35 watts output to a lw up 12m -=
 40m lng. Tnx fer rprt, meanwhile back to the RX with a big hammer.
=A0
73 petefmt


--- On Mon, 12/10/09, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:


From: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Subject: LF: MOFMT
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Monday, 12 October, 2009, 12:34 PM



M0FMT ,Good=A0=A0 569 from the=A0 35=A0 ft=A0 vertical (with atu=A0) ft897=
-d speaker at 1200=A0 bst to=A0 day , normal speed=A0 cw , beacon or=A0 li=
ve cq call =A0?=20
=A0
Graham
=A0
G0NBD=A0 /. io83lk


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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D=
"top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV>Thanks Graham</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Not a beacon but a call, computer generated. Locally we try to have=
 a qso weekdays at around 11:45 or at some time over the lunch hour and ag=
ain later around 4:00 it&nbsp;is a very loose sched with M0JXM Dennis and=
 rarely M0KHW.Ken. &nbsp;Rog GW3UEP listens some times whch is remarkable&=
nbsp;and reports by e-mail&nbsp;because I can't hear him its my RX or loca=
tion (adsl noise?) that is poor but&nbsp;we should be reciprical.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>FYI the current rig is an xtal controlled&nbsp;GW3UEP (ala UK500kHZ=
 group) this week run off a laptop PSU very approx 35 watts output to a lw=
 up 12m - 40m lng. Tnx fer rprt, meanwhile back to the RX with a big hamme=
r.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73 petefmt<BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 12/10/09, Graham <I>&lt;g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk&gt=
;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb=
(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: Graham &lt;g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk&gt;<BR=
>Subject: LF: MOFMT<BR>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>Date: Monday,=
 12 October, 2009, 12:34 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV id=3Dyiv363705495>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>M0FMT ,Good&nbsp;&nbsp; 569 from the&nbsp=
; 35&nbsp; ft&nbsp; vertical (with atu&nbsp;) ft897-d speaker at 1200&nbsp=
; bst to&nbsp; day , normal speed&nbsp; cw , beacon or&nbsp; live cq call=
 &nbsp;? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Graham</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>G0NBD&nbsp; /. io83lk</FONT></DIV></DIV><=
/BLOCKQUOTE></td></tr></table><br>



     =20

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Ok Walter=20

Well that is a good  question ! ...=20

Its a  narrow  band  data  mode that  uses a combination of   multi =
 tones and  amplitude modulation .. the  tones relay the  data  and th=
e  amplitude modulation  provides the  syn-pulse .. so  every characte=
r   has its ''own sync pulse''  so the  system has no  'lock up or  sy=
nc time'' =20

I am using  FLDIGI  as the  tx software .........  you  need to be ver=
y  close on frequency to decode=20

Tnx - G ..


From: Walter und Marianne Staubach=20
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:34 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: Re: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


Please help, Graham - what is THROB-2?
73
Walter DJ2LF / DI2AG

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Graham=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:28 PM
  Subject: LF: Throb -2- beacon 503.000=20


  Running  THROB-2-  Beacon   503.000 khz centre  frequency=20

  TX set  502.000 USB
  Audio  1000 Hz cent frequency=20

  Repeat time 60  seconds =20

  RX  'ON'  during cycle tx 'off'  time=20

  Reports / observations  =20

  Tnx  Graham

  G0NBD - IO83LK =20





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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Ok Walter </FONT></DIV>
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that&nbsp; uses a combination of&nbsp;&nbsp; multi&nbsp; tones and&nbs=
p;=20
amplitude modulation .. the&nbsp; tones relay the&nbsp; data&nbsp; and=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I am using&nbsp; FLDIGI&nbsp; as the&=
nbsp; tx=20
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decode </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx - G ..</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dwum.staubach@=
t-online.de   href=3D"mailto:wum.staubach@t-online.de">Walter und Mari=
anne Staubach</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:34 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org   href=3D"mail=
to:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: Throb -2- beacon 503.000 </DIV></DIV></DI=
V>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Please help, Graham - what is THROB-2=
?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Walter DJ2LF / DI2AG</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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 black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dg8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk     href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fs=
net.co.uk">Graham</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@=
blacksheep.org     href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_l=
f_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 27, 20=
09 6:28=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: Throb -2- beacon=
 503.000=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Running&nbsp; THROB-2-&nbsp; Beacon=
&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  503.000 khz centre&nbsp; frequency </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>TX set&nbsp; 502.000 USB</FONT></DI=
V>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Audio&nbsp; 1000 Hz cent frequency=
 </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Repeat time 60&nbsp; seconds&nbsp;=
 </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>RX&nbsp; 'ON'&nbsp; during cycle tx=
 'off'=20
  &nbsp;time </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Reports / observations&nbsp;&nbsp;=
 </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tnx&nbsp; Graham</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>G0NBD - IO83LK=20
</FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Petr,

for Belgium:
range: 501-504kHz
power: 5W EIRP
modes: telegraphy (as per ITU definition, meaning it includes digital 
text modes as psk, rtty, wspr etc...)
bandwidth: max. 100Hz

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


At 10:54 22/10/2009, you wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>I wonder where the following web disappeared:
>http://www.picks.force9.co.uk/index.htm
>is it just temporarily unavailable, moved to another address, or canceled
>totally?
>It was a great source of information.
>
>Second question. I just write an article that is related to MW. Can anybody
>provide a list of countries where the band around 505kHz is allowed for
>normal QSOs (not only beacons). What are the band limits, what is the
>allowed power?
>
>Thanks, 73, Petr, OK1FIG



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I have just restarted my 500kHz WSPR beaconing. At the moment I've not yet
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Hi Steve,
I am pleased you got that frustrating problem sorted out HI HI.

Glad to help if I can in any way.

Cheers,

gary - G4WGT.

2009/10/6 VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra.com>

>  G'day Gary,
>
> Well - the problem has gone away.   For some reason the "
> myweb.tiscali.co.uk/..." site address and several others had been put on a
> blacklist in my network security setup.  Something has triggered it off.
>
> While I obviously don't want to go into specific details, currently this
> has been cleared.
>
> My apologies for wasting your time and RSGB bandwidth.
>
> 73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 06, 2009 10:49 PM
> *Subject:* Re: LF: Links - Gary
>
> Hi All,
> My thanks to all (both direct & LF) who confirmed that the grabber links
> are OK.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
> 2009/10/6 Chris <c.ashby435@btinternet.com>
>
>>  Hi Gary,
>> All seems to work OK here as well.
>> 73, Chris, G4AYT.
>>
>
>

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Hi Steve,<div><br></div><div>I am pleased you got that frustrating problem=
 sorted out HI HI.</div><div><br></div><div>Glad to help if I can in any=
 way.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div>gary - G4W=
GT.<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/6 VK2ZTO <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:vk2zto@djirra.com">vk2zto@djirra.com</a>&gt;</span><br><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px=
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<div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">G&#39;day Gary,</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Well - the problem has gone away.=A0=
=A0 For=20
some reason the &quot;<a href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/.." target=3D"=
_blank">myweb.tiscali.co.uk/..</a>.&quot; site address and several others=
 had=20
been put on a blacklist in my network security setup.=A0 Something has=20
triggered it off.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">While I obviously don&#39;t want to=
 go into specific=20
details, currently this has been cleared.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">My apologies for wasting your time an=
d=A0RSGB=20
bandwidth.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)</font></div><=
div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">
<blockquote style=3D"border-left:#000000 2px solid;padding-left:5px;paddin=
g-right:0px;margin-left:5px;margin-right:0px" dir=3D"ltr">
  <div style=3D"font:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
  <div style=3D"font:10pt arial;background:#e4e4e4"><b>From:</b>=20
  <a title=3D"g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk" href=3D"mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk" tar=
get=3D"_blank">Gary -=20
  G4WGT</a> </div>
  <div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org" href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank"=
>rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>=20
  </div>
  <div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 06, 2009 10=
:49=20
  PM</div>
  <div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: LF: Links - Gary</div=
>
  <div><br></div>Hi All,
  <div><br></div>
  <div>My thanks to all (both direct &amp; LF) who confirmed that the grab=
ber=20
  links are OK.</div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div>73</div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div>Gary - G4WGT.<br><br>
  <div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/6 Chris <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
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Nicolas,<br>
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Ossi is using a TX with a free running LC-VFO on 1.375MHz which is then
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just 3Hz over about 20 mins!<br>
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Piotr MÅ‚ynarski wrote:
> Dear Rick, LF group
> it is my first decode of ur wspr signal 2118 -21  1.4   0.503868  0 
> OR7T JO20 23
> 2118 -22  0.8   0.503929  0 SM6BHZ JO57 30
> it was also sent  to wspr database
>

Just downloaded wspr. I have the dial set at 502.4 but nothing is 
decoding. Time is set accurately. Any ideas?

73

Richard
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Hi Andy, LF,


Got several decodes during daylight today, 315 Km - 196 m


091023 0726   5 -27  0.4   0.503850  G4JNT IO90 23           0    12    0

091023 0942   3 -29 -0.2   0.503850  G4JNT IO90 23           0 14715   28

091023 1126   2 -32  0.0   0.503850  G4JNT IO90 23           0 10959    5

091023 1412   1 -31  0.0   0.503850  G4JNT IO90 23           0 18419  -19

091023 1536   3 -28 -0.2   0.503850  G4JNT IO90 23           0    13    0

73

Gary - G4WGT.

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi Andy, LF,</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal">Got several decodes during daylight today, 315 Km -=
 196 m</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">091023 072=
6<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=A0=A0 </span>5
-27<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=A0 </span>0.4<span style=3D"mso-space=
run:yes">=A0=A0
</span>0.503850<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=A0 </span>G4JNT IO90 23<s=
pan style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 </span>0<spa=
n style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=A0=A0=A0
</span>12<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=A0=A0=A0 </span>0</p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">091023 0942<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=A0=A0=
 </span>3 -29
-0.2<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=A0=A0 </span>0.503850<span style=3D"=
mso-spacerun:yes">=A0 </span>G4JNT IO90 23<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes"=
>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 </span>0 14715<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:=
yes">=A0=A0 </span>28</p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">091023 1126<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=A0=A0=
 </span>2
-32<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=A0 </span>0.0<span style=3D"mso-space=
run:yes">=A0=A0
</span>0.503850<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=A0 </span>G4JNT IO90 23<s=
pan style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 </span>0 109=
59<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=A0=A0=A0 </span>5</p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">091023 1412<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=A0=A0=
 </span>1
-31<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=A0 </span>0.0<span style=3D"mso-space=
run:yes">=A0=A0
</span>0.503850<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=A0 </span>G4JNT IO90 23<s=
pan style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 </span>0 184=
19<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=A0 </span>-19</p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">091023 1536<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=A0=A0=
 </span>3 -28
-0.2<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=A0=A0 </span>0.503850<span style=3D"=
mso-spacerun:yes">=A0 </span>G4JNT IO90 23<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes"=
>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 </span>0<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=
=A0=A0=A0
</span>13<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=A0=A0=A0 </span>0</p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">73</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Gary - G4WGT.</p>

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mal hamilton wrote:

> Vern
> Nw active QRS3 and CW on 502.57 if that is any help.
> VE1JG has often hrd me in the past.
> 73 de mal/g3kev

Dear Mal,
i am calling you on 7033kc  and qsx on 502.57kc in qrss3

  73 de Piotr, sq7mpj
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My QRPp 500kHz WSPR beacon will be back on again tonight; the little
grandchildren have now gone home, sadly, so my shack is no longer needed as
a bedroom.

Any reports, especially new ones, would be much appreciated.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
G3XBM    GQRP 1678      ISWL G11088

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My QRPp 500kHz WSPR beacon will be back on again tonight; the little grand=
children have now gone home, sadly, so my shack is no longer needed as a=
 bedroom.<br><br>Any reports, especially new ones, would be much appreciat=
ed.<br>
<br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br clear=3D"all"><br>------------------------------=
-------------------------------<br><a href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.co=
m/">http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.u=
k">http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</a><br>
G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088<br>

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Thanks for the report Ha-Jo
 73  Peter, G3LDO
> Dear all,
>
> G3LDO audible 559, some QRN, in eastern Bavaria, JN68GN, on 501,1 kHz in
> QRSS around 22.40 UTC.
>
> Yesterday night I had no time to listen, sri.
>
> 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB
>
>  
>
>
>
>   



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Hello Warren,LF
capture XGJ
Henny pa3cpm
best 73s
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello Warren,LF</FONT></DIV>
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Now looking 137.7
mal/g3kev

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> Hi Mal
> OK Mal, I search your signal on 500kHz.
> Vy 73!
> Marcin SQ2BXI
>
> Marcin
> Can u work xband I will TX 502.57 qrs3 and I will QSX 137.7
> Let me know
> de mal/g3kev
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> Hi LF!
> Station SP2KDS will be work today,
> Operation in QRSS will start from 19:00 UTC on 137.700kHz (QRRS3) and
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> Vy 73!
> Marcin SQ2BXI
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G'day Jim,

Thanks for this.  It is a very thorough treatment of the method - including 
the limitations.   It will be one of my "print out and file" reference 
documents and I will alert the VK LF-ers to the link.

While in the general area of soundcard frequency accuracy - there was a time 
in the distant past when worrying about sampling frequency errors was less 
of a concern to me as all the cards I tested were well within 100ppm (< 
0.1Hz @ 1000Hz).  In that distant past soundcard sampling rates were 
44.1ksps, 22.05ksps, 11.025ksps and 5.512ksps (usually implemented as 
5.5125ksps).   That is, all sampling rates were "harmonically" related. 
Now we have the 48ksps, 96ksps (and higher?), which, while self related 
harmonically, are not harmonically related to the legacy sample rates.

The practical consequences of this caused much head scratching on my part, 
until the fog cleared, when I first dabbled in W*S*P*R ("*"'s added to avoid 
spambots...;-).   Everything was going swimmingly until I cross-checked the 
frequency of my transmission as reported by WSPR against ARGO.   There was a 
discrepancy of some ten's of Hz.   For someone who is a bit AR about 
frequency accuracy this caused mild apolexy.

To make an already long story not grow too much longer, I always use 
external USB soundcards (EDIROL UA-1eX) which have a physical hardware 
switch to select sampling rates (44.1ksps, 32ksps, 48ksps and 96ksps) built 
into them.    For some reason I had switched the sampling rate to 48ksps. 
This is the "native" rate for WSPR - so it was reasonably accurate.   When I 
booted up ARGO, the OS drivers had to somehow downsample the 48ksps hardware 
sampling rate in software (?) to the nominal 5.512ksps rate used by ARGO, a 
process it did with sufficient roughness to produce the very significant 
frequency error.   I proved this by hardware switching to 44.1ksps on the 
external soundcard, upon which the discrepancy from the 48ksps setting WSPR 
reading disappeared.   Note that now (when switched to 44.1ksps), the WSPR 
reading had moved a few ten's of Hz as now the OS drivers had to upsample 
from 44.1ksps to 48ksps.    Worryingly, at the same time, the decoding 
sensitivity on WSPR took a dive.

IMHO - bottom line to this is - if you have a newer PC you are likely to 
have a card based around 48ksps.  This means you are probably good to go 
with WSPR, but may have frequency errors in ARGO.    If you have an older PC 
and/or soundcard it may be based around 44.1ksps, in which case you are good 
to go with ARGO, but there may be frequency errors and poor decoding 
performance on WSPR.

How much of this effect you see will depend on the quality of the 
downsampling/upsampling/interpolating process in the drivers and/or OS. 
You may not see any discrepancy at all - but it is worth checking if you are 
having poor decoding on WSPR.

In my case I can avoid all problems by hardware switching to 44.1ksps when 
using ARGO and 48ksps when using WSPR.

Sorry for the long post.

73 Steve VK2XV

----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 3:09 AM
Subject: LF: RX and Sound Card


> Dear LF Group,
>
> I have just uploaded "RX_Soundcard_cal_v1.pdf" to the files page at the 
> UK500kHz group web site (go to 
> http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/files - it is down at the bottom 
> of the list). This describes a way of calibrating receiver frequency and 
> sound card sampling rate using an off-air standard frequency such as MSF 
> or 198kHz R4, without requiring an accurate audio frequency to calibrate 
> the sound card. This is addressed primarily to WOLF mode transmission and 
> reception, where this calibration has to be done fairly accurately in 
> order for the mode to work properly, but could also be generally useful 
> where sound card sample rate calibration has to be done, and there is no 
> precision audio frequency source available in the shack.
>
> Any comments would be welcome,
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU 



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Only  the  one  decode Roger  at  261 kmt=20

G ..=20



      2009-10-24 16:58   G3XBM   0.503917   -28   0   JO02dg   0.001=
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       2009-10-24 22:42   G3XBM   0.503923   -26   0   JO02dg   0.001=
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From: Roger Lapthorn=20
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 10:50 PM
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Clemens (et al),

Just restarted the 500kHz WSPR beacon (have been out for a few hours)=
 on 0.503910 +/-20Hz.

73s
Roger G3XBM


2009/10/24 Clemens Paul <cpaul@gmx.net>

  Roger,

  what is your exact dial qrg?
  Are you on air at present?
  I'll watch out for your signal.

  73
  Clemens
  DL4RAJ
    ----- Original Message -----=20
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    This will be active periodically over the weekend. It would be nic=
e to get a few new reporters spotting me.

    73s
    Roger G3XBM

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    <TD align=3Dright>2009-10-24 16:58&nbsp;</TD>
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    <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;0.503917&nbsp;</TD>
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    <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;2009-10-24 22:42&nbsp;</TD>
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    <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;0.503923&nbsp;</TD>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:rog=
erlapthorn@gmail.com&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link"   href=3D"mailto=
:rogerlapthorn@gmail.com">Roger Lapthorn</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, October 24, 2009 10:50 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A   title=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&#10;=
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.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Re: 500kHz 1mW WSPR beaconing</DIV></DIV>=
</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Clemens (et al),<BR><BR>Just restarted the 500kHz WSPR=
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(have been out for a few hours) on 0.503910 +/-20Hz.<BR><BR>73s<BR>Rog=
er=20
G3XBM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>2009/10/24 Clemens Paul <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&lt;<=
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Roger,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>what is your exact dial qrg?</FONT>=
</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Are you on air at present?</FONT></=
DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I'll watch out for your signal.</FO=
NT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>73<BR>Clemens<BR>DL4RAJ</FONT></DIV=
>
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y: continuous"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Drogerlapthorn@gmail.com href=3D"mailto:rogerlapthorn@gm=
ail.com"       target=3D_blank>Roger Lapthorn</A> </DIV>
    <DIV       style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font=
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    <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org       href=3D"mailto:rsgb_=
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    LF: 500kHz 1mW WSPR beaconing</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>This will be active periodically over the weekend.=
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    be nice to get a few new reporters spotting me.<BR><BR>73s<BR>Roge=
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    &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;ISWL G11088<BR>
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Very good indeed Mel: we know you are a very experienced and keen CW man
with an excellent station.

An advantage of WSPR is that the transmissions can be monitored for hours
and S/N reports recorded on the internet database. Already the usefulness of
this is clear to me. For example, F5WK has just reported me at 27dB below
Andy. I am a further 100kms away. From this, and other comparisions, I can
get quite a good idea of my ERP relative to "the big boys".

73s
Roger G3XBM

2009/10/29 mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>

> I can copy Russian stns during daytime as far away as UA9 at times on 160 m
> which is similar to 600m also the MOSCOW stations can copy me on 600m during
> late afternoon day light on CW. Nothing new about these conditions. This is
> old hat to experenced MF operators.
> I have also been copied on 137 khz during daylight hours in the USA ie
> early evening. using  CW.
> De G3KEV
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe" <
> rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 9:44 AM
> Subject: LF: 500kHz propagation
>
>
>
>  Over the past days I monitored the G4JNT WSPR beacon 24/24.
>> During daytime I have a weak but consistent copy of Andy's signal,
>> average -24dB with ups and down of some dB.
>> During nighttime the signal is -10dB on average, with the usual deep
>> QSB (peaking -1dB, dips down to -20dB).
>> But the most interesting observation is that in the afternoon the
>> first peaks (from -24dB up to -8dB) occur as early as 15:45 UTC.
>> This is almost 1 hour before sunset (16:37 UTC) and almost 1.5 hours
>> before the D-layer (at mid point) goes into darkness.
>>
>> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Very good indeed Mel: we know you are a very experienced and keen CW man=
 with an excellent station.<br><br>An advantage of WSPR is that the transm=
issions can be monitored for hours and S/N reports recorded on the interne=
t database. Already the usefulness of this is clear to me. For example, F5=
WK has just reported me at 27dB below Andy. I am a further 100kms away. Fr=
om this, and other comparisions, I can get quite a good idea of my ERP rel=
ative to &quot;the big boys&quot;.<br>
<br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/29 mal ha=
milton <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:g3kevmal@talktalk.net">g3ke=
vmal@talktalk.net</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
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I can copy Russian stns during daytime as far away as UA9 at times on 160=
 m which is similar to 600m also the MOSCOW stations can copy me on 600m=
 during late afternoon day light on CW. Nothing new about these conditions=
. This is old hat to experenced MF operators.<br>

I have also been copied on 137 khz during daylight hours in the USA ie ear=
ly evening. using =A0CW.<br>
De G3KEV<br>
<br>
----- Original Message ----- From: &quot;Rik Strobbe&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"=
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Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 9:44 AM<br>
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<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
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Over the past days I monitored the G4JNT WSPR beacon 24/24.<br>
During daytime I have a weak but consistent copy of Andy&#39;s signal,<br>
average -24dB with ups and down of some dB.<br>
During nighttime the signal is -10dB on average, with the usual deep<br>
QSB (peaking -1dB, dips down to -20dB).<br>
But the most interesting observation is that in the afternoon the<br>
first peaks (from -24dB up to -8dB) occur as early as 15:45 UTC.<br>
This is almost 1 hour before sunset (16:37 UTC) and almost 1.5 hours<br>
before the D-layer (at mid point) goes into darkness.<br>
<br>
73, Rik =A0ON7YD - OR7T<br>
<br>
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    Tnx for the grabbers,

pa3cpm is qrt,
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Thanx Henny,beacon to RN3AGC's grabber without success last night.

F4DTL Nicolas





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De : henny van elst <cpm@planet.nl>
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Sujet : LF: DTL 27-10.jpg



Hi LF,
Capture DTL
Henny pa3cpm
73s
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<div>Thanx Henny,beacon to RN3AGC's grabber&nbsp;without success last nigh=
t.</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div><STRONG>F4DTL Nicolas<br>
</STRONG></div>

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<div><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></div>


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Hi Michael, John,
I am watching here :-

http://www.jbest.net/weather/weatherLightLive.aspx

<http://www.jbest.net/weather/weatherLightLive.aspx>73

Gary - G4WGT.


2009/10/7 Michael Oexner <michael.oexner@web.de>

> Hi,
>
>
> > Looks like some electrical storms in western Europe causing
> > almost total wipe-out of the grabbers here.
>
> > Also lots of loud static crashes on 136kHz.
>
> Have a look at http://www.blitzortung.org/Webpages/index.php
>
>
> --
> vy 73 + gd DX,
>
> Michael
>
>
> RX: ICOM R75, SDR-IQ, Perseus
> Antenna: Wellbrook ALA 1530, Mini-Whip
> Location: Roschbach, Germany N 49=B015' E 8=B007' / Locator JN49BF
>
> ENDBH & NANDBH editor
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> http://ndbchangeblog.blogspot.com
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Hi Michael, John,<div><br></div><div>I am watching here :-</div><div><br><=
/div><div><a href=3D"http://www.jbest.net/weather/weatherLightLive.aspx">h=
ttp://www.jbest.net/weather/weatherLightLive.aspx</a></div><div><br></div>=
<div>
<a href=3D"http://www.jbest.net/weather/weatherLightLive.aspx"></a>73</div=
><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT.</div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote">2009/10/7 Michael Oexner <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mic=
hael.oexner@web.de">michael.oexner@web.de</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Hi,<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
<br>
&gt; Looks like some electrical storms in western Europe causing<br>
&gt; almost total wipe-out of the grabbers here.<br>
<br>
&gt; Also lots of loud static crashes on 136kHz.<br>
<br>
</div>Have a look at <a href=3D"http://www.blitzortung.org/Webpages/index.=
php" target=3D"_blank">http://www.blitzortung.org/Webpages/index.php</a><b=
r>
<br>
<br>
--<br>
vy 73 + gd DX,<br>
<br>
Michael<br>
<br>
<br>
RX: ICOM R75, SDR-IQ, Perseus<br>
Antenna: Wellbrook ALA 1530, Mini-Whip<br>
Location: Roschbach, Germany N 49=B015&#39; E 8=B007&#39; / Locator JN49BF=
<br>
<br>
ENDBH &amp; NANDBH editor<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://ndbchangeblog.blogspot.com" target=3D"_blank">http://ndb=
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This will be active periodically over the weekend. It would be nice to get a
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 2009-10-14 18:34  G3XBM  0.503868  -20  0  JO02dg  0.001  G0BPU  JO02ob
 67  110
A new station, G0BPU,  has reported by QRPp beacon on 500kHz. Not quite the
super-DX you guys are talking about but to me it is another minor miracle
with my set-up, HI.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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<table><tbody><tr><td align=3D"right"><font size=3D"2">=A02009-10-14 18:34=
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Hi LF,
ERP increased to 2 watts.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.


2009/10/11 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

> Hi LF,
> I am testing my Class D Tx after a PA fail yesterday.
> Frequency 503.6kHz
> QRS03 at 5 minute intervals & CW ID.
> 1 watt ERP.
>
> 73
>
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Hi LF,<div><br></div><div>ERP increased to 2 watts.</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>73</div><div><br></div><div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.</div><div><br><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/10/11 Gary - G4WGT <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk">g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk</a>&gt;</span><br=
>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Hi LF,<div><br></div><div>I am testing my=
 Class D Tx after a PA fail yesterday.</div><div>Frequency 503.6kHz</div><=
div>
QRS03 at 5 minute intervals &amp; CW ID.</div><div>1 watt ERP.</div><div><=
br></div><div>73</div><div><br>
</div><div>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.</div>
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Hi All,

See the WSPR addition to G4WGT grabber list on UK500KHZ Group.

Click on http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers
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Hello Marcin!

Full call copied from SP2KDS 1931UTC on 137.7kHz

Good luck!

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
Vaasa / KP03SD


Quoting Marcin <bxi@go2.pl>:

> Hi LF!
> Station SP2KDS will be work today,
> Operation in QRSS will start from 19:00 UTC on 137.700kHz (QRRS3) and
> 137,778kHz (QRSS60).
> Vy 73!
> Marcin SQ2BXI




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hi Henny=20
Good evening and many thanks for the qrss60 capture
good Week
Claude F8boj JN16WA...
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  LF,
  Capture BOJ
  Henny pa3cpm
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Hello LF!
I see signal from SM6BGP very well. My aerial is EWE (144m square), which=
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Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS


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Hello LF!<br>I see signal from SM6BGP very well. My aerial is EWE (144m sq=
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Typical efficiency of a push pull amp in class AB is 65 to 70%
For class D it is 80-85%, for a class E amp 90-95%.
In theory class E has no losses ... if you could find the perfect switch=
 (no turn-on /  turn-off time, no resistance) and coils.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

________________________________
Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or=
g] namens mal hamilton [g3kevmal@talktalk.net]
Verzonden: maandag 19 oktober 2009 17:42
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: LF: Re: Thanks Brian

A BIT LESS!!!!! at least 50% less than a class D or E, which should yield=
 90% with a proper design.
G3KEV

----- Original Message -----
From: Chris<mailto:c.ashby435@btinternet.com>
To: RSGB LF Group<mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 4:18 PM
Subject: LF: Thanks Brian

OK Brian, thanks for the info. Yes, I realise the efficiency will be a bit=
 less. Seems different people have had quite different experiences using=
 AF techniques/ready made amps etc.
Thanks, 73,
Chris, G4AYT.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><font color=3D"#000000" size=3D"2" face=3D"Tahoma">Typica=
l efficiency of a push pull amp in class AB is 65 to 70%</font></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"tahoma">For class D it is 80-85%=
, for&nbsp;a class E amp 90-95%.</font></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"tahoma">In theory class E has no=
 losses ... if you could find the perfect switch (no turn-on / &nbsp;turn-=
off time, no resistance) and coils.</font></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"times new roman">73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD - OR7T=
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<font size=3D"2" face=3D"Tahoma"><b>Van:</b> owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshee=
p.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] namens mal hamilton [g3kevmal@t=
alktalk.net]<br>
<b>Verzonden:</b> maandag 19 oktober 2009 17:42<br>
<b>Aan:</b> rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<br>
<b>Onderwerp:</b> LF: Re: Thanks Brian<br>
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<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">A BIT LESS!!!!! at least 50% less tha=
n a class D or E, which should yield 90% with a proper design.</font></div=
>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">G3KEV</font></div>
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=3D"c.ashby435@btinternet.com" href=3D"mailto:c.ashby435@btinternet.com">
Chris</a> </div>
<div style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"rsgb_lf_group@black=
sheep.org" href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">
RSGB LF Group</a> </div>
<div style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 19, 2009 4:18=
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<div style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> LF: Thanks Brian</div>
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<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">OK Brian, thanks for the info. Yes,=
 I realise the efficiency will be a bit less. Seems different people have=
 had quite different experiences using AF techniques/ready made amps etc.<=
/font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Thanks, 73,</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Chris, G4AYT.</font></div>
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Tnx Marcin
I went qrt early but can TX tonite if u are about.
de mal/g3kev

----- Original Message ----- 
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Mal
Strong copy your 600m signal audio 56 !
Marcin SQ2BXI
):

> Now looking 137.7
> mal/g3kev
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Marcin" <bxi@go2.pl>
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> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 5:45 PM
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> > Hi Mal
> > OK Mal, I search your signal on 500kHz.
> > Vy 73!
> > Marcin SQ2BXI
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> > Marcin
> > Can u work xband I will TX 502.57 qrs3 and I will QSX 137.7
> > Let me know
> > de mal/g3kev
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
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> > Hi LF!
> > Station SP2KDS will be work today,
> > Operation in QRSS will start from 19:00 UTC on 137.700kHz (QRRS3) and
> > 137,778kHz (QRSS60).
> > Vy 73!
> > Marcin SQ2BXI
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From: "Alan Melia" <alan.melia@btinternet.com>
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Hi Horst, Mmmmm your problem may not be the antenna it may be your use of
the level measuring set !! A "good" receiver would work well at LF off that
kind of aerial. You must remember that these LMSs have no preselection
because they are intended for measuring telecom line signals, not picking
signals out of the wideband "noise" from an aerial. They probably only have
one selective circuit in them, and then at the IF frequency. Once again
because they are used for line work they do not always have the dynamic
range of a "real" radio receiver and so will produce lots of intermodulation
products particularly if you have strong local singnals anywhere between DC
and 2MHz. For best sensitivity and freedome from extraneous noises you need
to restrain the bandwidth from the antenna to just the minimum you need to
receive, when using that kind of set. They can be good but your location may
be very different in its noise/interference profile to other operators.

Your "best" aerial will need to be chosed from the armoury or loops and
wires and active antennas as the one that best deals with your local
situation.

Best Wishes
Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
From: "Horst Stöcker" <horst.stoecker@web.de>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:25 PM
Subject: LF: Best receiving antenna wanted


> Hello,
> now that I am happy with my selectiv level meter Praecitronic MV-62 I am
looking for the best receicing antenna.
> Especially I am interested in 400khz, 136kHz, 72kHz and below 22 kHz. With
my 40m longwire reception is not good enough and with a frame antenna of
900m copper wire it was disappointing, too..
> I think, an active antenna for 0 to 500 MHz would be the best for me - but
I am looking forward to any other idea.
> vy73 Horst DO1KHS
> _______________________________________________________________
> Neu: WEB.DE DSL bis 50.000 kBit/s und 200,- Euro Startguthaben!
> http://produkte.web.de/go/02/
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>



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This is also a useful site for lightning activity in Southern UK and Northen
Europe:_

http://www.isleofwightweather.co.uk/live_storm_data.htm

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
  Sent: 08 October 2009 11:02
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Subject: Re: LF: Electrical Storms


  Hi Roelof,


  Yes, the website http://www.blitzortung.org/Webpages/index.php
  certainly does give us a very wide coverage. The site is now in my
favourites.


  73


  Gary - G4WGT.



  2009/10/8 Roelof Bakker <roelof@ndb.demon.nl>

    Hello Gary,

    Though this is a nice site for thunderstorm watchers, it does not cover
    the main source of wintertime QRN: the Mediterranean!

    And yes at the distance it is still causing a lot of trouble.

    73,
    Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt





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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN class=3D6062247=
20-08102009>This=20
is also a&nbsp;useful site for lightning activity in Southern UK and=
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Europe:_</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN   class=3D60622=
4720-08102009></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN class=3D6062247=
20-08102009><A   href=3D"http://www.isleofwightweather.co.uk/live_stor=
m_data.htm">http://www.isleofwightweather.co.uk/live_storm_data.htm</A=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN class=3D6062247=
20-08102009>73,=20
Dave G3WCB IO91RM</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=
=3DTahoma     size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
  owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Gary=
 -=20
  G4WGT<BR><B>Sent:</B> 08 October 2009 11:02<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Electrical=
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  Storms<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Hi Roelof,
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Yes, the website&nbsp;<SPAN class=3DApple-style-span     style=
=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; BORDER-COLLAPSE:=
 collapse"><A     style=3D"COLOR: rgb(119,153,187)"     href=3D"http:/=
/www.blitzortung.org/Webpages/index.php"     target=3D_blank>http://ww=
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  <DIV><FONT class=3DApple-style-span face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><SPAN=
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=3DApple-style-span     face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><SPAN class=3DApple=
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<BR>
  <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>2009/10/8 Roelof Bakker <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&lt=
;<A     href=3D"mailto:roelof@ndb.demon.nl">roelof@ndb.demon.nl</A>&gt=
;</SPAN><BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote     style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARG=
IN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Hello=20
    Gary,<BR><BR>Though this is a nice site for thunderstorm watchers,=
 it does=20
    not cover<BR>the main source of wintertime QRN: the=20
    Mediterranean!<BR><BR>And yes at the distance it is still causing=
 a lot of=20
    trouble.<BR><BR>73,<BR><FONT color=3D#888888>Roelof Bakker,=20
    pa0rdt<BR><BR><BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE=
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Hello Dutch friends, Has it this year an LX/PA6Z 137 kHz station as  2006 ?
_http://www.pa6z.nl/lx_2009/_ (http://www.pa6z.nl/lx_2009/) 
 
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Hi Vern
I can look for u on CW or QRS3. I will be qrv tonite on 502.57 kcs CQ in QSO 
mode cw and qrs3. I also listen 7033 kcs for xband
de mal/g3kev


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> Hi guys...have moved to wspr dial 502.4 @ 2205utc...hope to catch some of
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> 73 de Vern - VE1VDM
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Hello Pete, LF

> Well I can only conclude it is ADSL because it is
> just raising the noise floor it is=A0very subtle not really identifiable=
 like
> say TV LTB, it's a mush. Frame ants help a bit but not as sensitive at=
 the LW
> by a mile.

> 73 petefmt

I'm also plagued by a "not really identifiable" mush-like noisefloor. In=
 my case
it is not affecting RX on 500kHz badly, at least I seem to hear you guys=
 pretty
well and daytime the band sounds pretty fine. Here the problems start in=
 the
high end of the MW BC band and extends up to about 2600kHz with a constant
level. Above 2600kHz it slowly drops off and at 3000kHz it is more or less
gone.

The noise has no real characteristic, it is like a constant 24/7/365 white=
 noise
(S7 on IC-718 with inverted-L antenna) and I can not D/F it on any of my=
 loops.

I have even disconnected all incoming mains and phone lines to the house=
 just
above earth level and ran the radio from a battery but it is still there..=
.

I have tried to nail this pest many times but always failed so far. A clue=
 to
what kind of technology that could cause white noise in this spectrum woul=
d be
very helpful in the battle.

Thankful for any hints.


Then a word of warning as this may soon affect many of us:

On top of this the local electric company recently installed smart billing
meters in our area running LonTalk over 4800baud FSK PLC on 66.7kHz. The=
 2'nd
harmonic sidebands of this EU approved complete engineering failure piece=
 of
crap technology are now wiping out 136kHz completely daytime... With night=
time
QRN it just about "blends in" when using a 250Hz CW filter. The signal is=
 all
over in every cm of mains wiring indoors too. At least I know my enemy in=
 this
case but being approved technology used for every household means there is=
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little to do but live with it.

73

Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ






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Hello Laurence, Claude, John,

With my opinion I think that it is the signal of Claude F8BOJ
Perhaps could you see with the synchro with the hour !
the files of my grabber for comparison are at :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
I looked at the capture of Laurence, it seems that it is the end of the=20
=93J=94 of Claude .

73 qro Jean-Pierre F1AFJ

Laurence BY3A-KL1X China a =E9crit :
> =20
>
> Got this just before dawn - wasnt looking at 137 overnight but switched=
 pre dawn here in China.=20
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> =20
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> Dcf39/Mag are way over S9 on a quiet band so I would expect to see Eu si=
gs with 1W ERP or around on a good day. Looks like another at 777.9 too bu=
t very weak.
>
> =20
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> ps also saw some UNID traces on 503.6khz qrss3 but 500 wasnt so good her=
e as 137kHz
>
> =20
>
> Laurence KL1 X in BY3A OM89UA China
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> R75 Probe at 80 ft or so.
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> ps time on trace in GMT  was at end point not when sig seen.
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Thanx John, i hope to meet you at Tours Hamfest the next week end.
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hi Valerio..and LF=20
Many thanks for the qso Valerio...ur MM and MMM..
good sunday
Claude F8boj JN16WA

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Walter und Marianne Staubach wrote:

> DI2AG is now in WSPR. TX QRG 505.090, Dial 503.590. Pwr 0.5W ERP.
> Please listen to my beacon.
>  
> 73   Walter    DI2AG / DJ2LF
>  

Dear Walter, LF group
it is my first decode of ur wspr beacon:

2054 -15  2.4   0.505092  0 DI2AG JN59 27
of course, it was also sent to wspr database
i will stay here ( i mean on your qrg) for the next hour ( with 
automatic upload to wspr database)
 and later  will  qsy to  502.4 to observe  other wspr transmissions
                   
                                     73 de Piotr, sq7mpj
qth: Lodz /jo91rs/

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Walter und Marianne Staubach wrote:
<blockquote cite=3D"mid000a01ca58c1$bc5cef20$6402a8c0@e7010" type=3D"cite"=
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  <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">DI2AG is now in WSPR. TX QRG
505.090, Dial 503.590. Pwr 0.5W ERP.</font></div>
  <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Please listen to my beacon.</font><=
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  <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">73=C2=A0=C2=A0 Walter=C2=A0=C2=A0=
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Dear Walter, LF group<br>
it is my first decode of ur wspr beacon:<br>
<br>
2054 -15=C2=A0 2.4=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.505092=C2=A0 0 DI2AG JN59 27<br>
of course, it was also sent to wspr database <br>
i will stay here ( i mean on your qrg) for the next hour ( with
automatic upload to wspr database) <br>
=C2=A0and later=C2=A0 will=C2=A0 qsy to=C2=A0 502.4 to observe=C2=A0 other=
 wspr transmissions<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
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qth: Lodz /jo91rs/<br>
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Hello Chris,
Capture at 3.42z (local time 7.48).
The trace was visible till 4.10z.

73 Andrey

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On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 7:33 AM, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)"
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> Hello Henny and all ,
>
> Yes good copy of XGJ ! also XES visible last night on my grabber !
>
> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj
>
> henny van elst a =E9crit :
>>
>> Hi Warren,LF
>> Capture XGJ,
>> Henny pa3cpm
>> best 73s
>> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden
>> verzonden:
>> XGJ 05-10.jpg

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Cheers for the info.   60 day wait then!!

 

With best regards

 

 

Jim

 

 

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
Sent: 21 October 2009 21:15
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: Grimeton?

 

Hi Jim, LF,

 

Copy of message from Lars (below).

 

73

 

Gary - G4WGT.

 

 

Grimeton Radio/SAQ transmission CW on VLF 17.2 kHz

 

 

We deeply regret we have to cancel the previously announced transmission on
United Nations Day, October 24th 2009.

 

Next planned transmission will be on Christmas Eve, December 24th 2009, at
08:00 UTC.

 

 

 

Lars

SM6NM

 

 

 

2009/10/21 Roelof Bakker <roelof@ndb.demon.nl>

Hello Jim,

I have seen a message that this transmission has been cancelled.
And yes, your mini-whip will do.

I even used it with Johan Bodin's great program directly fed into my
soundcard.

Best regards,
Roelof, pa0rdt

 


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t=3D"on">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: LF: Grimet=
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man"><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:16.0pt'>Grimeton Radio/SAQ=
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17.2 kHz</span></font></u></b></strong><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><b><font size=3D5 face=3D"Times New Roman=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lan=
g=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>We deeply regret we have to&nbsp;=
<u>cancel</u>&nbsp;the
previously announced transmission on United Nations Day,&nbsp;October=
 24<sup>th</sup>&nbsp;2009.</span><o:p></o:p></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lan=
g=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Next planned transmission will be=
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e=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Hello Jim,<br>
<br>
I have seen a message that this transmission has been cancelled.<br>
And yes, your mini-whip will do.<br>
<br>
I even used it with Johan Bodin's great program directly fed into my=
 soundcard.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
Roelof, pa0rdt<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Hi Peter

Thanks for the call last  night ..very deep  qso and  static , anything 
from a good  559  when you  called to  zero .. doubled once . lost you at 
the  end

Qth Wallasey  IO83LK

73 - Graham



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From: "Peter Dodd" <g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk>
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 11:15 AM
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Subject: Re: LF: G3LDO 501.1

>
> Hello Paul and Jay:
> Thanks for the reports - I didn't pick a very good evening! However I
> have reason to believe the antenna and the transmitter are working OK so
> I will be trying again.
>
> Regards
>
> Peter, G3LDO
>> Hello Peter, Jay, LF
>>
>> I had the radio tuned to 501.1kHz for a couple of hours last night but 
>> found the
>> signal to be weakish for a close to legal limit ERP UK station under 
>> normal/good
>> conditions. The signal was very stable with no deep QSB over the period I
>> followed it.
>>
>> I know it is impossible to make a proper estimation like this, just 
>> wanted to
>> add my reception result. Perhaps something wasn't working as 
>> intended/announced
>> or then it was just condx changing for the worse after a good period 
>> lasting
>> several days.
>>
>>
>> Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
>> Vaasa / KP03SD
>>
>>
>> Quoting jrusgrove@comcast.net:
>>
>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> Sorry...nothing seen. T storms over Atlantic generating some pretty good
>>> static levels.
>>>
>>> Jay
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Bonjour John and ALL
Many thanks for the good report
Good afternoon
Merci John
Claude F8boj JN16WA
----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: LF: F8BOJ up to 40dB over noise on 137


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Hello JPierre and ALL
     it is absolutely jpierre 22H15 UTC my money for this error yes ye=
s the
sun that rises on China and lies on the Maine
      Good Night all
      Claude F8boj JN16WA


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Subject: Re: LF: Beacon "BOJ" 10H15 TU 137776.2hz


Hello Claude and all ,

I think that you want to say  22:15 UTC !
Attention , at this hour will be the sunrise in China !

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

claude Berthebaud a =E9crit :
> Good Morning LF
> The BOJ Beacon 137776.2hz Qrss60 is open from 10:15 UT
> good night all
> Claude F8boj JN16 WA
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Hello J-P,John,Andrey,
also here the big signal,
best 73s
henny pa3cpm
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello J-P,John,Andrey,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>also here the big signal,</FONT></DIV>
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Hi LF,
Capture XES
Henny pa3cpm
73s
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
XES 03-10.jpg

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi LF,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Capture XES</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny pa3cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het volgende 
bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:<BR>XES 03-10.jpg<BR><BR>Opmerking: 
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ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de 
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Hello Warren,LF
Capture XGJ
Henny cpm
best 73s
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello Warren,LF</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Capture XGJ</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henny cpm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best 73s</FONT></DIV>Het bericht kan nu met het 
volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:<BR>XGJ 
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> Vern
> Nw active QRS3 and CW on 502.57 if that is any help.
> VE1JG has often hrd me in the past.
> 73 de mal/g3kev
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Hi All,
Just started constructing TX for 136kHz, noticed Maplin do a Velleman=
 audio PA kit that is rated at 200W (100W RMS into 4R). OK there's no=
 mains transformer or heat sink, but reckon it's good value at =A314.9=
9. Point is the specs also say the minus 3db frequency response is 3Hz=
 / 200kHz.
The RSGB books 'LF Today' refer to using audio amps as PAs at 136 with=
 'a few modifications'. Does anybody know where these modifications ar=
e documented? I guess there's nothing major, reduce a few cap values?=
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Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable.

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 Thanks for the latest report Ha-jo.
I have been working on the antenna ground and got an extra .5amps 
antenna current since your previous report.

regards

Peter, G3LDO
>
> around 22.20 UTC on October 13th, 2009 G3LDO audible in QRSS RST 579 fb
> in JN68GN, eastern Bavaria.
>
> 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB
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David,

>As an interested observer from the other side of the pond, how do you
determine that you are close to the ERP limit??
>I'd be interested in knowing as I am trying to do some pro-bono work for
the ARRL on getting use of 137 kHz here in the USA.

         I am running 4Watts ERP (measured, using field strength)  on 137
kHz and this seems to be the minimum needed for someone on the East Coast to
be copied in Europe on a fairly reliable basis using very slow QRSS speeds.
I am licensed for 10W ERP and will try to get closer to that power level
this Fall.   If you want to work across the pond from further inland or use
faster cw than MORE power will be needed.

           I am very very worried that the ARRL will settle for 1 Watt ERP
(or worse 1 W EIRP).!
           This would be a BIG MISTAKE!
           About 10 years ago the ARRL was turned down for a 137 kHz ham
band on the basis that it would interfere with power line carrier systems
and take down the grid. Now 8 years after 9/11 it would be ironic if the
grid was still susceptible to interference from hams!
              I live 900 feet from a high power transmission line which has
Power Line Carrier signals on it and I haven't caused any interference in 5
years operation at the 4W ERP level.

            Bottom line  - get AT LEAST 10W ERP for hams - there is NO
REASON TO SETTLE FOR LESS!


-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
               WD2XGJ
               WD2XSH/23
               WE2XEB/2
               WE2XGR/1



On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:17 PM, David Weinreich <
David.Weinreich@globalstar.com> wrote:

>  Peter,
>
> As an interested observer from the other side of the pond, how do you
> determine that you are close to the ERP limit?? I'd be interested in knowing
> as I am trying to do some pro-bono work for the ARRL on getting use of 137
> kHz here in the USA.
>
> Tnx & 73,
>
> David Weinreich
> WA2VUJ/3
>
> >>>
>   *From: * Peter Dodd <g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk>
> *To:* <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> *Date: * 10/07/09 3:09 PM
>  *Subject: * LF:  Re Propagation report
> Hi Jay,
> I will be sending a beacon signal QRSS3 on 501.1kHz until 2330z.
> I have modified my old PL519 TV sweep tube transmitter which ran about
> 60 to 70W. It now has two PL519s in parallel running 120W.
> I have taken down the HF quad until the sunspots wake up a bit and
> reinstalled the antenna used for 73/136kHz so I am now running close to
> the new ERP limit.
>
>
> Peter, G3LDO
>
>
> > Mal
> >
> > I check your frequency. Sunset here isn't until 2230Z...what time do
> > you QRT?
> >
> > How about a beacon signal? ;~)
> >
> > Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net
> >
> > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 11:34 AM
> > Subject: LF: Re: Propagation report
> >
> >
> >> Warren
> >> Great propagation around EU and Russia at present on 500. I have been
> >> copied in Russia and eastern EU while daylight here, also 160m is
> >> good with daytime reception and QSO'S as far as the Moscow area
> >> Probably good to the west but not sure if anyone is monitoring in the
> >> USA during evening time here.
> >> 73 de mal/g3kev
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
> >> To: "rsgb_lf_group" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 4:18 PM
> >> Subject: LF: Propagation report
> >>
> >>
> >>> I have noted that Alan Melia has not updated his propagation  report
> >>> since the 7th of July!
> >>> Hope all is well with Alan!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> 73 Warren K2ORS
> >>>                WD2XGJ
> >>>                WD2XSH/23
> >>>                WE2XEB/2
> >>>                WE2XGR/1
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David,<br><br>&gt;As an interested observer from the other side of the pon=
d, how do you
determine that you are close to the ERP limit?? <br>&gt;I&#39;d be interes=
ted in
knowing as I am trying to do some pro-bono work for the ARRL on getting
use of 137 kHz here in the USA.<br><br>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 I am runni=
ng 4Watts ERP (measured, using field strength)=A0 on 137 kHz and this seem=
s to be the minimum needed for someone on the East Coast to be copied in=
 Europe on a fairly reliable basis using very slow QRSS speeds. I am licen=
sed for 10W ERP and will try to get closer to that power level this Fall.=
=A0=A0 If you want to work across the pond from further inland or use fast=
er cw than MORE power will be needed.<br>
<br>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 I am very very worried that the ARRL wi=
ll settle for 1 Watt ERP (or worse 1 W EIRP).! <br>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
=A0=A0=A0 This would be a BIG MISTAKE!<br>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
 About 10 years ago the ARRL was turned down for a 137 kHz ham band on the=
 basis that it would interfere with power line carrier systems and take do=
wn the grid. Now 8 years after 9/11 it would be ironic if the grid was sti=
ll susceptible to interference from hams!<br>
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 I live 900 feet from a high power=
 transmission line which has Power Line Carrier signals on it and I haven&=
#39;t caused any interference in 5 years operation at the 4W ERP level.<br=
><br>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Bottom line=A0 - get AT LEAST 10W=
 ERP for hams - there is NO REASON TO SETTLE FOR LESS!<br>
<br><br>-- <br>73 Warren K2ORS<br> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WD2XGJ=
 <br> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WD2XSH/23<br> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=
 =A0 =A0WE2XEB/2<br> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WE2XGR/1<br><br><br><b=
r><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:17 PM, David Weinrei=
ch <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:David.Weinreich@globalstar.com"=
>David.Weinreich@globalstar.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">


<div style=3D"margin: 4px 4px 1px; font-family: Tahoma; font-style: normal=
; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height:=
 normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">
<div>Peter, </div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>As an interested observer from the other side of the pond, how do you=
 determine that you are close to the ERP limit?? I&#39;d be interested in=
 knowing as I am trying to do some pro-bono work for the ARRL on getting=
 use of 137 kHz here in the USA.</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>Tnx &amp; 73,</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>David Weinreich </div>
<div>WA2VUJ/3<br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; </div>
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x; padding-left: 7px; background-color: rgb(243, 243, 243);">
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<tr valign=3D"top">
<td><b>From: </b></td>
<td>Peter Dodd &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk" target=3D"_blan=
k">g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk</a>&gt;</td></tr><td><div class=3D"im">
</div><tr valign=3D"top">
<td><b>To:</b></td>
<td>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank">=
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>&gt;</td></tr>
<tr valign=3D"top">
<td><b>Date: </b></td>
<td>10/07/09 3:09 PM</td></tr><td><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">
</div></div><tr valign=3D"top">
<td><b>Subject: </b></td>
<td>LF:=A0 Re Propagation report</td></tr></td></td></tbody></table><div><=
div></div><div class=3D"h5">Hi Jay,<br>I will be sending a beacon signal=
 QRSS3 on 501.1kHz until 2330z.<br>I have modified my old PL519 TV sweep=
 tube transmitter which ran about <br>
60 to 70W. It now has two PL519s in parallel running 120W.<br>I have taken=
 down the HF quad until the sunspots wake up a bit and <br>reinstalled the=
 antenna used for 73/136kHz so I am now running close to <br>the new ERP=
 limit.<br>
<br><br>Peter, G3LDO<br><br><br>&gt; Mal<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I check your freq=
uency. Sunset here isn&#39;t until 2230Z...what time do <br>&gt; you QRT?<=
br>&gt;<br>&gt; How about a beacon signal? ;~)<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Jay W1VD=A0=
 WD2XNS=A0 WE2XGR/2<br>
&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; ----- Original Message ----- From: &quot;mal hamilton=
&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:g3kevmal@talktalk.net" target=3D"_blank">g3ke=
vmal@talktalk.net</a>&gt;<br>&gt; To: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@=
blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 11:34 AM<br>&gt; Subject: LF: Re:=
 Propagation report<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; Warren<br>&gt;&gt; Great=
 propagation around EU and Russia at present on 500. I have been <br>&gt;&=
gt; copied in Russia and eastern EU while daylight here, also 160m is <br>
&gt;&gt; good with daytime reception and QSO&#39;S as far as the Moscow ar=
ea<br>&gt;&gt; Probably good to the west but not sure if anyone is monitor=
ing in the <br>&gt;&gt; USA during evening time here.<br>&gt;&gt; 73 de ma=
l/g3kev<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; ----- Original Message ----- From: &quot;Warren Ziegl=
er&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wd2xgj@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">wd2xgj@=
gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; To: &quot;rsgb_lf_group&quot; &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank">rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 4:18 PM<br>&gt;&gt; Subject: LF=
: Propagation report<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; I have noted=
 that Alan Melia has not updated his propagation=A0 report<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;=
 since the 7th of July!<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Hope all is well with Alan!<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;<b=
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Reasonable at MF towards Eu but spoilt by QRM at my end. QRM is coming fro=
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Decodes from Gus

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2009-10-21 19:18=20
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 55=20

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This was a peak of signals from Gus - the "opening" lasted about an hour=
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e evidence of other WSPR carriers on assigned freqs but no decode.

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137 was quiet with  "W" on DFCW of probably WPF coming thru strongly till=
 after my dawn - no Western Eu stations fully decoded but some characters.

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Tonight will be my last night here "MFLing and "LFLing" in China for a few=
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Laurence

Nr Bohai Bay China OM89UA

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Greetings - <BR>
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Reasonable at MF towards Eu but spoilt by QRM at my end. QRM is coming fro=
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<TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D1>2009-10-21 19:18&nbsp;</FONT></TD>
<TD align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D1>&nbsp;SM6BHZ&nbsp;</FONT></TD>
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137 was quiet with&nbsp; "W" on DFCW of probably WPF coming thru strongly=
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ters.<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Tonight will be my last night here "MFLing and "LFLing"&nbsp;in China for=
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Hello Finbar, Niels, Mal, Hallo LF / MF;

 

Received following calls on MF (501.7 kHz) in CW-Mode:

 

ON8NJ,            Niels:               5 5 9;

EI0CF,              Finbar:              3 3 9; but 100% readable!

G3KEV             Mal:                 4 4 9

 

vy 73 de Gerhard  //  DK6NI  (JN59LN)

 

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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p; 5 5 9;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>EI0CF, &nbsp;&n=
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r:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp; 3
3 9; but 100% readable!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>G3KEV &nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Mal:&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 4
4 9<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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DK6NI&nbsp; (JN59LN)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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